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I was told that there was a huge media frenzy outside. So once I was born, I was told that she did not hold me.
But the way that she tells it is that she spent hours with me in the hospital holding me as a baby. So I'm not really sure which is the right, you know, I don't know which is true.
Trying to think of the word that I wanted to say, but I don't know. An officer took me out the back to hide from the media and rushed me over to a hotel nearby.
That's where my parents were waiting.

Did your adoptive parents know who you were related to?

Yes, my adoptive parents did know. My mom even told me that, you know, she had, or her and my father had gone to my grandfather and was like, you know, we've got this child.

We're very excited about it, but, you know, she is Diane Down's daughter.

How do you feel?

And, you know, he just said she's a Babcock.

You know, it doesn't matter where she came from.

She's ours perfect you know that and the officer coming through the door holding the little baby girl. And she said that she looked down at me and that I was perfect, that it didn't matter where I came from because I'm her daughter, and to her I was perfect.
Dana Timms was able to confirm some of what Becky had heard about the day she was born. I was told that the day that I was born that Diane held me for a very long time, for a couple of hours.
Then I was also told that I had to be snuck out the back of the hospital by authorities because of the media that was out front covering the story. Do you know anything about that? That's probably true, although it was, you were born 10 days after her conviction.
So I'm not sure that, I mean, certainly the Lane County sheriffs didn't alert the press to say, hey, Diane's been taken to the hospital. So if they took you out the back, it would have been as a precaution, not that there was a row of TV cameras set up there.
Oh, okay. But yeah, I think she held you for maybe even longer than two hours.
And she let Doug Welch, one of the Linghetti Sheriff's detectives, hold you also.

I'll say also that during the trial, as she was sort of continuing to get fuller,

as her pregnancy was moving along, she was constantly hands on her belly, and it was sort of like she had a little partner every day

who was helping bring her strength in a tough situation. Definitely got the feeling that she was holding you all that time.
The idea of Diane's courtroom pregnancy and subsequent birth after conviction were perhaps an important part of Becky's own experience to come. She experienced pregnancy in her teens, and the experience wasn't easy.
And I begged them. I said, please don't tell my dad.
You know, he can't. Let me at least tell him that I'm pregnant.
You know, and they ended up telling him. And I talked to my dad later about it.
I was like, I asked them not to tell you. He's like, you're a minor.
And he's like, so, and that's how I phrased it. I knew something was wrong.
There was a reason you were not at boot camp, you know? And so he's like, that's how we found out. You must've been going through so many emotions.
Oh my gosh. I remember I was just crying and it got to the point where nobody was telling me anything at MEPS in Portland.
I just left. I was like, I'm not going to boot camp, obviously.
I can't just sit here and do nothing. and I left and I went back to where I was staying and I you know sat down on the couch next to Christian's biological father and sat there for a while in silence then I looked over at him and I'm like I'm pregnant he says I know that was it we sat there for like an hour just silent and later on I asked him I'm him, I'm like, what do you mean? How did you know? He's like, because you're back.
Becky's second pregnancy was initially planned with her then boyfriend, a different man from her first pregnancy. She loved him and they wanted a child together.
Unfortunately, things began to fall apart, and the situation became difficult. It was a high-risk pregnancy.
I was bedridden for most of it. I didn't want to give up on our family, so I ended up staying in a homeless shelter because I couldn't work.
And he went back to his ex, and they were awful. They just kept telling me that they were going to to take him from me or they were going to have the state take him from me.
And it's all these horrible things, whereas I'm here in Clement Falls trying to make our family work and it didn't. So I called my parents, you know, and I asked for help.
Becky's parents agreed to take her in and help take care of her during the pregnancy, but on the condition that she consider adoption. So I didn't decide until I was eight months pregnant that adoption was what was going to be best.
I fought it. I really, I tried so hard to get everything right in my life just so that I could keep him.
But in about eight months, I had to just accept that I couldn't and so I got a hold of the adoption agency and they brought all these folders of families just family after family after family and I just remember going through the pages and just thinking like these people cannot raise my child this you know this isn't the right for him. I had to pick somewhere that was perfect.
And one of the very last folders that I got were the ones. They had already had a son and they just couldn't have children together.
So that was who I chose. And I met know, I met them and they were just amazing.

Letting go wasn't easy for Becky. In many ways, giving up her second child mirrored Diane's own experience with her.
But Becky was able to control the narrative. As difficult as the situation was, she was able to ensure that he went to a family who would love him.
I didn't even hold him for very long. and they just had to take him because I couldn't let go.
So they took him and the family was in a room close by and they spent those first two days in the hospital with him. You know how mom stays in the first day you ought to do that.
I had to go home and recover. And two days later, I get a call from the hospital.

They forgot to have me sign the adoption papers.

They left those parts out.

So I actually had to go back into the hospital and see them and see the baby and sign over my rights right then.

After two days of just misery because I gave my child away, it was the hardest moment of my life. But he is with an amazing family.
He's doing so great. I get pictures every year on his birthday.
It's an open adoption, but at this point, I feel that I'm going to wait until he's ready to find me.

I don't want to push myself into his life. And they didn't hide that he was adopted.

So, you know, I'm sure when he's ready or if he's ever ready, he'll find me.

Perhaps thinking back on her own situation and her curiosity about her own biological parents, Becky considered whether or not the son she gave up for adoption would one day wonder about her and who she was. So she made sure he would have the answers if he ever wanted them.
Of course. I wrote him a letter and gave it to the parents to give him when he was old enough.
I remember writing it when I had decided to put him up when I was eight months pregnant. And I just wrote and wrote and wrote and wrote.
And the thing probably was 10 pages long. And I just realized that I need to, you know, short and sweet, just let him know that I loved him.
And then I was really doing what I thought was best. I'm terrified that he may think bad of me, that he thinks that he was unloved or that he was unwanted or didn't have that connection because, you know, he was part of my heart.
Shortly after this difficult experience, Becky reached out to Diane for the first time. Do you remember what you wrote to Diane? I think it was pretty general, the first letter, you know, said that I think I'm a mere biological daughter.
Here's my date of birth, time. Here's what I look like.
Just all the basics. And then when you reached out to her, this was only because you just had your son up for adoption.
He was now in the picture of with another family. Is that correct? Correct.
We've spoken about the nature of their correspondence in an earlier episode, but the letters immediately devolved into Diane attacking Becky for wanting to know about her biological father. And over the years, Diane has continued to deny that Becky is her daughter.
Diane recently went so far as to claim that Becky could be a disinherited niece out to con Diane out of Amy's inheritance.

I've corresponded with Diane through emails and she somehow has flipped it to that

you're not her biological daughter.

Amy is somewhere out there

and she hasn't reconnected with Amy.

And she only uses Amy as the name of that little girl which is you right how does that make you feel hearing the name Amy how does that make you feel uh it's about the same as hearing the Hungry Lake Wolf song it just kind of sends chills up your spine a little bit I don't identify with it because it I don't it doesn't fit me I don't feel like it's my name yeah in, in the letters when she started with her conspiracy theories and really getting into stories that I just didn't want to hear and I asked her to stop writing me is when she decided that I wasn't her daughter. I'm assuming because I rejected her.
I asked her to stop writing me and at that point then I was the enemy as well and she decided that I was the one who was after her. And I didn't want to feed into that.
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For this, we checked back in with Michelle Leonard, the DNA detective. With both Becky as well as Diane's brother James having submitted samples, Michelle is finally able to start putting together the pieces of the larger puzzle.
So with Becky's ancestry's results, you get two main components. You get an ethnicity estimate and you get the DNA match list.
And I'm sitting here looking at Becky's results page at the moment, and I'm going to open up her ethnicity estimate. And I'm going to go through what that tells us.
So first up, so it's telling us that Becky is 46% Germanic Europe, 42% England, Wales, and Northwestern Europe, 5% Eastern Europe and Russia, 4% Norway, 3% Baltics. That makes sense.
I was told that I have Danish ancestry. One of the other things I've done in preparation for the case is I've built a tree out for your maternal side.
but your Fredrickson line goes back to Denmark, came over to the United States after your great-great-grandfather, Christian Peter Fredrickson, who was born in 1867. So he was the immigrant who came to the United States and died in South Dakota.
What I think is interesting just right off the top is you said Fredrickson line. That confirms that Becky is in fact the biological daughter of Diane Downs.
Absolutely, 100%. Yeah, there's no doubt about that whatsoever.
That is definite, especially since Diane's brother has also taken a test and Becky matches him exactly as you would expect for an uncle-niece relationship. So there's no mystery as to the maternal side.
Becky, how do you feel about that? Because there has been speculation and doubt, especially from Diane herself saying that you aren't her daughter. Like you said, Diane has denied I'm her biological daughter for a really long time.
In her very first letter, she was excited to have me as her daughter, but then it quickly went to I was not her daughter. And ever since then, she has believed that I'm not her biological daughter.
so I mean those results those results are super huge for me. Every emotion you can think of is what I feel.
I have seen my adopted birth certificate, but I've never had this kind of proof. Like, this is zero doubt.
I am her biological daughter. And And there's been a lot stipulation out there.
And people weren't quite sure if I was that child that, you know, she was pregnant with when she was on trial. So I don't know.
It just kind of shows that it's real. With Becky's maternal line established and having finally received confirmation that she is, in fact, Diane's biological daughter, Becky's next question, and perhaps to her the most important, is to begin tracing the paternal line.
In order to do that, Michelle has to begin by building a family tree. I want to know who your maternal ancestors are because that helps me with eliminating DNA matches that result from your maternal side.

So that's why I've built a maternal tree to help me with doing that. And basically, outside of the Danish ancestors, it just shows that your maternal ancestry has been in the United States in general, in most lines, for a number of generations.
The longer that the lines have been in the United States, the more DNA matches you tend to get to them, which is another thing that is important to know about when you're trying to work out the DNA. So if we go back to the ethnicity side of things, we've obviously got this 46% Germanic Europe showing up.
And this little bit Eastern Europe and Russia, the little bit that's categorized

as Norway might well be the Danish. The Germanic Europe, if you can look at the map, it covers quite a large area, which takes in the likes of Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Luxembourg, Belgium, and the Netherlands.
So it's quite clear you have some strong and a large amount of ancestry from this part of Europe from your ethnicity estimate. Well, that makes sense.
I mean, I'm 5'9 and blonde hair, green eyes, and yeah, I look like I'm from that region. As Michelle unpacks Becky's estimated ethnicities, she warns that they're accurate to some extent, but they don't give much detail at a micro level.
It does make sense in those terms, yes. And looking down the rest of it, obviously there's the 42% England, Wales, and Northwestern Europe.
I suspect that quite a lot of that is your maternal side, those American lines that have maybe come over from England, Wales, etc., further back in time. I always say don't read too much into the ethnicity estimate as a whole.
It's very interesting to see, especially when you have one side of your ancestry that's unknown. It can really give you a clue as to the direction to look in, but it's never going to solve the case.
And there's always going to be, you know, things that aren't quite right with ethnicity estimates as well. I say they're generally accurate to the continental level, but when you try to drill them down further to country level, it's much more difficult to do and they have to be taken with a bit of a pinch of salt at the same time.
Michelle believes that even with the information she has currently and with a few more database submissions, she will be able to trace Becky's paternity. So do you think we're going to be able to solve the mystery? I really do think we are.
The key, however, to solving the mystery isn't the ethnicity estimate. Like I say, it can give us a clue.
And that bit about the Germanic Europe is interesting, but it's not going to tell us who your biological father is. The key are the DNA matches.
His DNA is not on file then. He's never submitted.
No, you don't have a parent match, which is, as I say, not at all unusual. The vast majority of people looking for a birth parent when they take a DNA test will not find that birth parent has already tested.
A few will, and they're very lucky if they do. Makes, makes it easier.
It does make it easier, but most don't. So obviously your top match is your maternal uncle, and you're sharing a lot of DNA with him, nearly 1,700 centimorgans, as we call it.
And that's a really significant amount of DNA, exactly the right amount to be sharing with a full uncle. But it turns out that James isn't Becky's only high-level match.
However, with that amount of DNA, there are a number of different relationships that you could have with someone. And your second highest match is sharing over 1,500 centimorgans with you.
So what does that mean? Is that another aunt or uncle?

So this is a female match. This person is either a grandmother, a full aunt, or a half sibling.
She is one of those three relationships. Now at this point we don't know which, but she's a, She's what I call a jackpot match.

And she does not match your maternal uncle.

Therefore, given the size of the match and given how closely related he is to you, she is most definitely a paternal match. It's either a paternal grandmother, a paternal aunt, or a paternal half-sibling, half-sister.

That's exciting. It is.
It's very exciting. There are caveats, though.
Even though there is a high-level match, there are obstacles in the way. Not all users on DNA databases, even those that appear to be relatives, as matches are easy to track down, nor do they always want to be.
She has no tree and she has a username that is quite privatized. And I have tried everything I could think of to see if this concoction of letters and numbers has been used by somebody somewhere that I could identify who this person is.
And it hasn't. They've been very smart in maintaining their privacy on the site with the name that they've used the one thing that I can tell from it is that she is not a grandmother she's not your paternal grandmother simply because I'm able to look at all of the matches that she has and she's clearly matching to you know both sides of yournal ancestry and not just one.
So that suggests to me that we can narrow her down to being either your paternal aunt or half-sister. So she's one of those two relationships with you.
Michelle also cautions against the natural tendency that many of us would have in this situation. A lot of people, when they see such a jackpot match, the very first thing they're going to want to do is fire off a message to that person.
It's human nature and it's normal to want to do that. And in many cases, it's the right thing to do.
And then some, it's not. At this point in time, we don't know if she's a paternal aunt.
We don't know if she's a paternal half-sister. And contact is the most delicate thing that we're going to be doing with this situation it could be that she is your birth father's daughter it could be she's his sister but either way we're not going straight to the source if we message her and we give her this information and then she goes to him whether he's her brother or he's her father and says dad or brother what's this who's this person what do you know and maybe nothing and maybe he knows something and maybe that puts him in a very difficult situation and that makes him less likely to want to have contacts because we've gone through his family and not given him the opportunity to tell them himself, if you know what I mean.
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So I think that it's best to hang back from making that contact with her at this point in time, at least until I've done a full evaluation. I might be able to identify her through her more distant relatives.
I might be able to identify who her father or her brother is. And if that's possible, then you always want to go straight to the birth person, the birth parent, if at all possible, because that gives them the opportunity then to tell their family if if they want to do that of course it might be that we'd get no we get to that point and we get no reply and then we can always go back and try contacting her at that point that's one thing that i'm um a little bit nervous about is the contact if he is alive because i've been public with my story for 10 years and he has not contacted me.
I'm worried that he may not want to contact me. He may not know he's my biological father or he's deceased.
So I am very nervous about that first contact. I think with you, Becky, I've been thinking about that as well, how public you've been over the last 10 years.
And then also, as I was digging in a little bit more about what Ann Rule has reported on her contact with your birth father, if that's in fact true. I don't have any reason to doubt she's lying, but if it is true that she did have contact with your birth father and she made a deal with him he would know then that diane grounds you know obviously had a child and that he has a child with her you know i'm not a man obviously so i don't know if there's shame that he we we don't know the circumstances how he came into the position of being with Diane intimately.

If that was, as it's been quoted in books and resources, is that he was duped into this affair,

or whether he went into it willingly.

But I could imagine this is somewhat shameful to know that he had sex with a convicted child killer.

It's just the same as it's shameful to be the daughter, you know. Several names have floated for who Becky's father might be.
But with Anne Rule's use of an alias, his real name may have died with her. No one else seems to know exactly who he might be.
So, what's interesting, Michelle, is that everybody has a theory who Becky's father is.

So many theories. Yeah.
So when I spoke to the nanny, she had the theory it was a defense attorney, which is ruled out. So that's not the case.
But everybody speculates who had this access on a daily basis with Diane that could be potentially the father. Based on what I have researched, Ann Rule gave the statement that she made a deal that she would use his story in the book, but change his name, make a pen name for him.
And then also change his profession, which she changed his profession in the book to teacher. But then interesting enough, when we talked to reporters, they all said, we heard it was a local reporter.
And there's so many people who are attached to this case that want to know the results and are curious in a different fashion to Becky. I mean, I always say the proof is in the DNA.
The problem with what you've got, you've got a jackpot match. And at the same time, you've got the unlucky status of being from almost certainly from very recent immigrants, which means that there are less DNA matches to work with.
Like I said, the vast majority of your matches are maternal. That, you know, sort of issue of, oh, we've got fewer matches to work with, yet at the same time, we've got the jackpot match.
Michelle plans to dive far beyond the DNA results and using whatever name she's able to find, she'll build a paternal family tree bit by bit until she's able to solidify the identities of Becky's closest relatives on her father's side. And next, what I want to do is a full evaluation of the paternal matches that she does have.
I want to build their trees. I want to try and find their connections.
And of course, the fact that it is recent immigration from countries like Poland and the Ukraine does make that more difficult, but I will try my very best to build these people back to their ancestors and see if I can find connections. And if I can do that, I might be able to solve it through these more distant matches.
It just depends how lucky we are with them and how possible it is to build the trees back and find the connections. And at that point, we can make a decision on contacting the jackpot match or, if I've been lucky, maybe contacting the birth father himself.
So that's why I'm saying hold off on any contact with the high match at the moment until I've done this. Having been through this scenario many times with others, there's an approach Michelle recommends for those who may be contacting possible family members for the first time.
I say, you know, you have to do it very cautiously. You don't want to barrel in there telling them your life story in a first message.
You have to gauge what they may know and what they may be willing to how, you when you make a first contact you have to make it short you want to say you know hey we have a close match but you don't want to say oh i think i'm your daughter or i think i'm your sister or you know you don't want to go into that detail just you know are you know are you interested in exploring our match is there anything you could tell me about your ancestry general questions you know I think one of the worst mistakes is if you're looking for a birth parent and you instantly see you have half siblings or you have aunts or you know first cousins people that are close to that man and you know you've worked out who he is but you

instead go on Facebook and message his daughter because then you might be opening up a can of

worms that leads you to alienating the person that you're trying to get in contact with before you've

even managed to speak to them and going about these things the right way doesn't always result

in a positive outcome.

If you can possibly get to the birth parent themselves, always you want to do that. I was just thinking it's funny that all of your don't do's when contacting is exactly what I did when I contacted Diane.
I said, I think I'm your daughter. I told her my entire life story.
and I think I overwhelmed her, you know.

It was just like I was I was kind of excited to contact her which is weird I know but you know it's still where I come from and so I got a little overexcited when I wrote my letter and it's it's it's natural isn't it to get overexcited contacting someone who's so closely related to you and what's right for one person isn't right for another. And I always say, keep the first, you know, contact short and general, but when they, if they come back and they're super interested and they're telling you their life story, you know, then get into it because, you know, obviously there's, they want to it.
And of course, I'm talking from the perspective of finding people as a DNA match and not from having adoption papers and the like and knowing this person is supposedly your birth parent. My first thought isn't, let's fire off a message to her straight away.
I want to do some more digging and find out if I can work out who she is and maybe work from her to get to your birth parent. With a jackpot match of Becky's paternal side, discovering the identity of Becky's father seems likely.
In many ways, finding out would be the culmination of her journey and the reconciliation and acceptance of who she is. The question is whether or not her biological father will feel the same.
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