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Hi, guys.

Hi.

You know, so this

NBA lottery thing was a wild ride, huh?

The

Dallas Mavericks, Justin's team.

Mark, did you know that's Justin's team?

I was, I,

whether or not I wanted to know, you were made well aware with Justin what is going on with his rooting practices.

So the Mavs, after, you know, just humiliating themselves organizationally with the Luca trade, they have a 1.8% chance of landing the number one pick and a chance to select this Cooper flag guy who's, I guess, like

Larry Bird 2.0.

I don't know, but he's really good from Duke.

Somehow they land the pick,

stun the NBA world,

and you know, leads to the, in my opinion, anyway, totally overplayed, you know, the NBA lottery's rigged chatter that's followed that around since you know, Patrick Ewing and the supposedly frozen envelope in'85.

Um, and if you think that this means now I'm gonna go full greeny or whatever and scream at the camera how the NFL has to do this,

I'm not,

but I'll say this, Cece.

Get ready.

Okay.

Because it's coming.

As I watched this unfold on Monday before the tip-off of the Knicks and Celtics,

all I could think about was the suits over there on Park Avenue

salivating at the televised drama unfolding on live television.

The explosion of social media reaction, the pomp and circumstance of it all, and imagining those executives daydreaming about how the NFL could do the lottery bigger, better,

better.

And

you think about the NFL, they've been trying to figure out how to conquer May

for a long time.

And we're going to talk about the schedule a little bit later, which it's like good game, nice try, guys.

It's not as a big deal as they want it to be, right?

And the fans in the media have sniffed that out a little bit.

But

despite their best intentions with the schedule, there's something else there.

And man,

the lottery.

I'm just saying,

they're watching that and thinking,

hmm, it's coming, baby.

Well, also, let's take what

the NBA has done and make it our thing and make it much bigger and much quicker and right here in front of our faces.

Right.

Right, Jordan, like on Christmas, but they did with Christmas.

They took that from the NBA.

Why can't they take the lottery away also?

Yeah,

I think you had a tweet about this, right, Dan?

You did.

I did.

You know what?

The mistake I made with the tweet was it was like a little inside baseball where I did it Dove Kleinman style.

And then people took it like as me being actually serious.

So I wrote, inspired colon.

The NFL needs to adopt the lottery system.

So much more fun than a bunch of sadass teams stumbling into position in week 18.

It was like half serious, but half joking.

And I'll tell you what, Money Mike, the vitriol that I received for that harmless tweet.

Can you throw up a couple of responses here, Justin?

Just fire them up one after another.

It evokes vitriol.

Is it harmless?

Yeah, here's one.

Shut the f up, Dan.

All right, what else we got?

That was from your mom.

As a Hornets fan, I hope terrible things happen to you the rest of your life.

What else we got?

Damn it.

I thought it was a harmless.

I was like, what did you do?

Tweeting, hey.

Absolute dog shit take.

So, I don't know.

Like,

my point is not that I think it should happen.

That was kind of a winking dove bit that I was doing.

And then I misunderstood that if it gets 465,000 impressions, people might not get the dove bit that goes on on the show.

But, Mike, can you sense the possibility that the NFL, or do you think the owners would ever buy into a lottery?

Let's just talk about it from that angle.

Well, yeah.

Do I think the owners would buy into it?

Sure, because there's a way to sell a lottery that makes the TV product more interesting, which is all that would matter to, not all that would matter, but it's how you get the owners on board.

I think it's a bad idea.

Well, also, I'm just like a draft abolitionist, I guess.

So I don't even really like the idea of a draft, let alone a draft lottery.

So I should throw that out there.

That is my official take where I'm planting my flags.

They should get rid of the draft altogether.

But if you want to get owners involved, you just have it a way that makes money.

You know, instead of like right now, the schedule's coming out.

The NBA, I believe, has an entire, what, 30-minute slot dedicated to ping-pong balls in the draft lottery.

So yeah, if you tell the NFL owners, yeah, you can make X amount of dollars with a lottery, here you go.

You'll at least get like half of them in there because today is all about greed, really.

It is all about greed.

It is.

When you steal games on Christmas, when you play teams play, what did they have to do?

Three games in 10 days, I think it was, for all those teams to end up playing on Christmas on a freaking Wednesday, which is pretty nuts.

Games on YouTube, games in Brazil.

I think the Seahawks have a game that kicks off at 10 p.m.

Eastern on ESPN Plus this year.

Yeah, all that

is about greed.

Yeah,

that's bad.

So, yeah, I think you can get them on board if you tell them there's dollar signs involved.

And here's the other thing, Jordan.

I could picture these same executives smoking giant, comically oversized cigars and tinstripe suits, guffawing at the NBA.

Like, you guys are doing this during essentially the pregame show of Nick's Celtics when you already have an audience?

No, no, no, no.

The NFL, they would have their own, it would be a standalone event.

They would have events leading to the events.

They'd have shows with

discussing who, the announcements of who will be representing the teams.

They'll figure out a way to turn it into a multi-week event.

So just remember this show in about three or four years.

That's this intro.

That's all I'll say.

Dan, I did not actually get that you were doing a bit.

I knew the exclamator or the caps letters and the colon was a bit.

I guess maybe the NFL isn't as dominant as we think it is because a lot of people didn't seem to get that it was a bit.

I did not, I thought, I knew the first part was.

I thought you were serious in saying you do want that the NFL to adopt the lottery system.

I just need clarity there.

Do you know what I mean?

No,

here's the exact happening.

I have receipts on text with Justin and Mark that I was watching his theater and enjoying it because it is really, really fun to watch it because you could see these various team executives dying on screen and

conversely, like being filled with joy.

Like you haven't seen, like they would be filled when they saw their child born, right?

It's like that level, especially when there's a blue chip prospect of the highest order, like this flag guy appears to be.

But I said, I'm not going to talk about this on the show and do that thing because that feels like a Mike Greenberg thing.

And then sure enough, like 12 hours later,

there's like a clip of Mike Greenberg screaming in a million-dollar studio about how this has to happen.

So,

while I recognize it'd be fun as a football fan,

I'm not going to like say it has to be done.

But I think there's something to be said about that week 18 and just the grimness of it and like things like how the Patriots dropped from one to four by winning a meaningless game against the Bills team, those resting stars, like taking

that sad business of week 18 and then turning it into like

entertainment, like I could be talked into it.

I will allow that.

I could be talking about it.

I love those sad games because I like to think that it's teams that are so pissed about the schedule growing ever longer.

just getting pissed and saying, fine, we're going to treat this like a preseason game, like F your 18, 19, 45 game schedule.

But Dan, I got to say, when I saw it, I was ready to talk to you about it today because I am looking in my screen at two people in yourself and Mark who spend just minutes upon minutes upon minutes railing against the machine, right?

And just saying,

What is the league going to monetize next?

How could we let them do this?

And this is the perfect event for them to tentpole and stake their claim and make it their own.

And when I saw inspired colon and your advocacy for this, I thought, has someone kidnapped Dan Hansis?

Because

this is a, you are an anti-establishment, anti-machine kind of guy, Dan.

Don't forget that Mark and I were trapped in said machine for 14 years.

Oh, I remember.

And old habits die hard.

We know the machine.

But we are not Robotrons against the machine necessarily.

They implanted a chip in Mark and I's brain that we're trying to take out, like in severance, Mark.

We're working on it.

It's very dangerous, bloody business.

Much agreed.

Mark's wearing his lobster shirt today, so you know it's going to be a good show.

I just, it was just cleaned and not, I wouldn't say ironed.

No one irons my clothing, but it was cleaned and, you know, put through the dryer.

So it's have you been cleaned?

Much of my clothing has been cleaned in the last like two to three days.

That wasn't the question, but okay.

By the way, we got him before we move on

on the subject of the NBA.

On the Friday fun show last week, we talked about the Met Gala and how it was a little bit,

you know,

the athletes that show up at the Met Gala.

Sometimes it's like, well, I don't know, like, you're going a little all out.

Do people know who you are at this event?

And we pointed out Stedon Diggs,

who showed up with

a woolly mammoth's coat on at the Met.

Then I saw this.

Do you have this, Justin?

So

there's a head, it was in the New York Post, how Kylie, Kendall Jenner, Bad Bunny, and Timothy Chalamay score seats in Nick's coveted celebrity row at MSG.

And I thought they did Steph Diggs a little dirty in this article.

If you scroll down a little bit, it then reads:

B-list tends to be harder to get those tickets.

The source said, noting Stephon Diggs as an example.

The only reason why Stephon Diggs was sitting there was because he's dating Cardi B.

Typically, he wouldn't be there unless he was with a bigger name.

An insider says, all right, take it easy.

I mean, why not just let Steph live, all right?

That's being

fair to me.

It seems fair to me.

Am I wrong?

Like, it's fair.

Is that, though?

Like, for instance, someone sent me the picture of the Timothy dude with his two dates, and I texted him back.

I said, who are these people?

Like, I legitimately did not know.

He was like, oh, well,

Timothy Chalamet is one of the biggest male actors in the entire country.

Listen, I have no idea.

You're a cinephile.

We got to plug in on Chalamet.

He's one of the great young actors of his generation.

I wouldn't say he is.

What is he?

I wouldn't have seen him.

I'll let Mark handle this.

This is more his best.

Well, he was in.

What would you have seen?

He's in Dune.

He's in multiple films.

Willy Wonka.

I also am with you in the sense that he's sort of a child.

He's a child with Army Hammer.

That's very

iffy.

They made another Willy Wonka.

Justin would like that one.

This is

what they would call a movie star today.

I'm not sure it is, but that's what they would call a movie star today.

And he's dating one of those Jenner women.

Right.

Kylie Jenner.

The highest level Jenner woman.

That's how I recognize her.

Yeah, I've seen none of those.

I'm aware of Dune.

I'm aware of that.

I'm aware there's a second Dune as well.

Is there a third Dune as well?

I'm sure it's coming.

Yeah, okay.

I haven't seen that.

I did not know they made another Willy Wonka.

Is it the same story?

Is it updated?

I think, was it a reimagining, Mark, or was it a

reimagining to somebody?

It was a very silly retelling.

It was definitely not the same story.

It's about how Willy Wonka creates the chocolate factory.

It's not about the golden chocolate chocolate.

Because we need it.

We're moving the story forward, it sounds like, after 60 years.

It was fun.

If it's not Gene Wilder, it's crap.

Says man shaking hand to Cloud.

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Who's going to win the Super Bowl?

This year.

I'm going to say Buffalo finally wins it.

Ooh.

Cowboys.

Oh, how about that boy?

Yeah.

How did the boy?

Yeah.

Come on, Stray.

You know better than that.

Come on, Troy.

You know better than that.

It is kind of funny that saying that the Cowboys are going to win the Super Bowl is basically

on the level of just a big old joke now.

It's a Dallas Cowboys.

I do love that Joe Buck kept it real right away.

Bills.

It's like within logic and reason.

They both have had some facial work done, I believe.

Did they?

Can you fly that up again?

Let me take a look.

Am I wrong?

I believe there's been some work done on both of these individuals.

Like, they look like large women.

Troy looks, you know what?

He looks great.

Troy looks right.

He looks pretty smooth for,

yeah, in the face.

Buck looks too smooth to me.

Like, just there's been some work done.

I think Joe looks very good.

I think Troy looks weird.

Yeah, something's looking different with Troy.

Troy looks like, speaking of movie references, remember that really bad movie where The Rock has to go rescue the kid from like the jungle or what?

I think it's the rundown.

I think that's every rock movie.

Yeah.

There's a, at the very end of the movie, they eat this like fruit that makes you see like people's faces like blown up, kind of cartoonish.

Yeah, it's like a poisonous fruit or whatever.

I think it was the jungle book remake.

I took my children to see that.

Was it the same story or did we move the story forward?

I think it's called The Rundown.

I think it's called The Rundown.

Anyway, that's what Troy's face looks like, like a blown-up, like you're seeing a distorted cartoonish.

I don't think that was the surgeon's intent, if indeed he did have.

When is the Friday fun show labeled Mike Reviews Movies?

I mean, we got to get it off the ground.

We got to get off the ground.

I can do that.

Unless they got this Timothy guy in them, because apparently he's just not.

I'm not his demo, apparently.

I really had no idea until he was about two days ago.

Let's, if you're, you know, listeners out there, hit up Money Mike with the best Chalamet movie.

If you're like, want to dip your toe in Chalamay Lake,

let Money Mike know.

All right.

The schedule's out.

It dropped on Wednesday evening.

The opening game of the season, and you know, it always features the defending Super Bowl champion.

Well, still the Super Bowl champion.

And then as soon as the ball is kicked off, they become the defending Super Bowl champion.

So it features the Super Bowl champion Eagles hosting the Dallas Cowboys, the aforementioned Cowboys.

And I know, Mark, people are going to immediately get fired up and be like, oh, that's a bad game.

The Cowboys think.

Nah, give it to me.

Call me a basic.

I like it.

Cowboys in prime time.

Dak's back.

CD's healthy.

You got pickings, a little juice there.

It's the, you know, got the division rivalry of it all.

Like, that, to me, that's fine.

I like it.

Let's start right there.

Yeah, like, like, the inner cynic in me wanted to be down on that pick, and yet I can't.

And I think the NFC East in general, we understand is television fodder.

And

now that you've got the Commanders operating as like the Commanders, I believe, play 162 television games this season.

Like

the NFC East is completely on fire.

Well, they're all televised.

Well, but just that it feels like every NFC

was like, the commanders

are playing tonight.

They're playing this evening.

Like, of course they are.

Isn't a game on YouTube?

Is that technically televised?

The one that's streamed just on YouTube now?

Yes, I think it counts.

They would say it is.

I feel like it counts now.

And then the day, the night after the opener, now, as is customary,

the first international game.

We'll get to that in just a little bit.

It's a Friday night game between the Chiefs at Chargers.

And if there's any doubt, I know we, I feel like we're all in general agreement that it feels like the Detroit Lions are America's team in terms of who everyone seems, if you had to pick one team to collectively root for, it's the Lions.

The Chiefs are the team that is all over every high-profile spot, spot, and

they're playing against the Chargers in Brazil.

Week one Sunday night football, Ravens at Bills, like it.

One critique here, J-Rod.

And I've said this every year.

These big-time

conference matchups that have a very solid chance of

deciding tiebreakers.

and who is hosting a playoff game, putting them on September 10th or whatever.

I don't love it because the teams are still figuring shit out, you know?

And so

it's a minor quibble, but I understand why you can't, why you're going to be drawn to do that for week one.

So I can't really kill it.

Yeah, I agree with you on that.

I also think it's easier to do sometimes.

Like you see with the NFC West, they backload a lot of the, even the...

seeing each other twice a year, they backload a lot of those games because they understand that the division is going to be just a race to the finish line a lot of years.

Last year, not as much.

But with this one, I think I can kind of see what they were doing.

And in the past, with something like this, with two powerhouses who will be Super Bowl favorites entering the season, like building that long, slow tension through the course of the season where you can't fully have your eye on the road ahead of you because you always got your eye on your opponent down the line and kind of how they're doing, which then leads to ultimately a higher payday or return on eyeballs or whatever, like once they finally get to the game that does does decide more things.

Return on eyeballs.

That's a new one for me.

Yeah,

I kind of fumbled that one a little bit, you know.

It's a little too graphic.

ROI, return on eyeballs.

RO literal eye.

Yeah, exactly.

The week one Monday night football, interesting spot there for, I almost called him a rookie, but the

quarterback of the Minnesota Vikings who missed all of his first year and now gets a chance to be the quarterback of of the Minnesota Vikings.

And I keep on calling him the quarterback of the Minnesota Vikings because I'm waiting for my brain to remember his name.

He is McCarthy, J.J.

McCarthy.

He will travel to Soldier Field.

And then Timothy Shalamay, he will travel to Soldier Field to face the Bears.

And right there, Mike, that makes a lot of sense.

Everyone is hyped up on the Bears product.

So give him the Monday night primetime game and good luck.

Chicago.

I thought this should have been.

Who did what's dangerous?

Now you're making me forget names.

The Bears coach's name.

He took a stab at, I believe, the Packers.

Ben Johnson.

Ben Johnson.

Yes.

I believe he took a stab at the Packers, I think, in his intro.

I promise the listener that we all cover football professionally.

I promise you.

There is just a lot of names and teams football.

We inserted Cardi B and Stephon Diggs into it, so we're just adding more names.

Ben Johnson said, I enjoyed beating Green Bay twice a year.

That's what you're referring to.

Yeah, that would have been a no-brainer week one one for me.

If you're going to put them in the, that would probably be the change I'd make.

I don't know when they do play.

I'd have to look it up.

But like that was it.

That'd be an obvious week one, set it off.

And Dan, I think it's funny you couldn't remember J.J.

McCarthy's name as the quarterback of the Vikings.

Will be a fun little subplot there is if he's not the quarterback.

Oh, I thought

you were teeing up one of your little like pithy Sam Darnold digs.

Like you're going, no, no, no.

He's the guy that took the job of your hero.

I could literally see you armor yourself against it in real time.

It's a different Sam.

The Vikings traded for Sam Howell to be like their number two there.

I mean, he probably would lose out against JJ because they wanted JJ to be the future or whatever, but you never know.

You just roll the ball out in training camp and let him have at it.

Are you being

serious?

Do you actually think this would be a competition?

I would be stunned if they let Darnold leave and then let Sam Howell beat out Jay McCarthy.

I think they're going to sink or swim with this kid at this point.

They probably should, but

I'm inserting chaos into the discussion.

All right, because

I would say JJ has a similar body type to Timothy Chalamay.

Is it Timothy?

Yeah, because it's like a poem by Timothy, then EE with like there's a little apostrophe on top of one of the E's.

I thought it was Timothy Chalamay.

Timothy Chalami.

It's a little spelling, and there's like a little apostrophe.

Timothy Shalamay.

Then it leaves me wondering, like, how am I supposed to say it

in an appropriate way?

Timothy Chalamay.

I guess it it sounds the same to me.

Timothy.

No, the weirdest thing about Chalmé, Mike, is you're you're new to the Chalame.

He's a movie star.

Like, he is a legitimately Manhattan guy.

He grew up in a very working class, like, he grew up in...

not like a project, but he grew up in like a big, like, very modest, like, apartment building somewhere in a non-romantic area of New York City as a massive Knicks fan.

And that's why he's become like the face.

It's like him.

Spikely will always be the Knicks fan, but he doesn't strike you as a working-class family type of individual.

Yeah, when your name is Timothé Chalamet, you would think he grew up, I don't know, made for the stage, yeah, in

somewhere off the like the coast of France, but in reality,

he was a regular New Yorker that has quite the life.

I mean, he's

his wiki page says that he grew up in a federally subsidized artist building in Manhattan Plaza in Hell's Kitchen.

There you go.

Well, so did I.

So did Dan.

And yes, he's French.

I grew up in a cultural.

Mark, you grew up in a leafy

suburban dreamland in Connecticut.

Let's not put us in the same category.

I don't enjoy that.

I grew up covered in soot.

That was the air that I breathed in.

I gave my father a hug at 5 a.m.

when he went to the mines, and I always said goodbye to him.

And it was more than just goodbye until dinner.

Because you never knew.

Well, on speed, Dial Justin dials up the

pro-Dan music there, but I don't agree with the commentary.

How about I go there?

Keith always came home.

Danny, it was a tough one.

Honest work.

Oh, he's in Don't Look Up?

I saw that.

Oh, my God.

He's awesome in Don't Look Up.

He plays kind of the stoner dude.

Wait, which guy?

Yeah, which guy is?

He's the guy that's with Jennifer Lawrence in that, the boyfriend of Jennifer Lawrence.

And he plays a really good role in it.

Okay, I gotta watch.

Dove wishes he could play.

That was the one where the world's ending and no one wants to hear it, right?

You know, sometimes we've gotten some tweets and messages, Mike, you know, because you're a movie guy, but then sometimes like these things happen.

To some degree of people.

People are like, why is Mike saying he's a movie guy?

And then all the time you guys bring up movies and he doesn't know characters and actors and films.

Well, so it's like how I don't know anything about gambling.

Well,

there's a very distinctly

to America situation with that going on.

I could rattle off a ton of movies that a lot of us probably wouldn't recognize there.

So

that's the answer to that.

But I did see

Don't Look.

It was a very

good response from Two Gar in a big spot.

Yeah, I could rattle off like a hundred movies that I could go to a family event and be chastised for not seeing that no one on that no one listening would how is this not a podcast we need we need to do this we need to we'll call it the two Americas um cinema spectacular and it's just you and another guy and it's each guy filling in the blanks for the other guy

it's Sessler it's Sessler and Dugar I think that'd be that that would be a good uh pairing yes

I could get down with that.

I was trying to figure if I've seen something with this guy in.

guys, you know,

because it looks like he's been nominated for a couple Oscars.

I'm just like, he can't be that big if I've never seen anything with him.

He may be the biggest actor, the biggest young actor of today.

Am I correct?

Am I incorrect about that?

Like, I think that's.

And to be fair, I kind of, and you saw the photo of Shalom A, Mike, and you were kind of like, him?

And I feel kind of the same way.

I see Shalom, and he's also kind of a heartthrob that a lot of

people love, a lot of women love, and whomever.

Like, I don't quite get that either, but he is something of a

Jordan.

Would you say he's something of a sex symbol for the people in your demographic?

In my demographic.

He is not my

sexual icon.

I think he's very good looking in a sort of traditionalist, like stereotypical actor-y kind of way.

Isn't he a boy, though?

He's sort of a boy, though.

Do you not feel that as a woman, that he's sort of a boy versus a like he's not a man?

29.

i know but he's not a boy

he's sort of he's boyish and kind of has a boy charm to him um i really enjoyed dune um that's all i'll say about that

as you could tell the whole group is very enamored by the schedule release in 2020 guys we cannot get off it let's let's yes did you have something to add about chalamay yes his sister is a very talented actress as well and um that's that's pretty much all my chalamay information that I have.

It sounds like you might be someone that would enjoy the Two Americas podcast.

Let's get into the

maybe the matchup of the year on Sunday night football, week six, Lions at Chiefs.

Yes, now that I can live, I that I could deal with.

I'm into that.

That's a, you know, by the time you get to week six, we're talking what, October 18th in that range.

Teams have kind of gotten into their groove groove and found themselves, and that's going to be a lot of fun.

Let's see, what else?

Week 16,

Justin pulled this one out and highlighted it.

It's a Fox Saturday double header.

Eagles at Commanders.

Oh, this is great.

I'm glad you pulled this, Justin.

Eagles at commanders and Packers at Bears.

So two huge NFC divisional matchups in week 16.

This could decide divisions, playoff spots, you know, a buy potentially in the NFC, and a college football playoff triple header occurs the same day.

Oh, Maron,

let's go.

They did this last year, too, right?

It was like they went up against a CFP with the Saturday double header, I believe.

The Christmas teams played, if I have that correct.

Yes.

I know there was some crossover, and I know the NFL won that battle.

Yeah, but I don't know.

But all of the CFP games were blowouts.

I think Justin's Longhorns were one of them.

I think they blew out Clemson, I want to say, if I remember correctly.

So, yeah, I'm interested to see how that goes

again.

Mark, speaking of the

Eagles and Commanders, they don't play until week 16, as we just said, and then they play again week 18.

And traditionally, and I'm assuming that that holds to this day, week 18 is all divisional matchups, and there is commanders at Eagles.

And man, you just got it, you got to hope, I would say, you got to hope

that the commanders are as good as we all want them to be this year.

Well, yeah, I think like the NFL schedule makers are not unlike the larger NFL fan base where they're telling us, and we understand it, that the commanders matter.

And like they're going to be playing in big games late in the year, where this never would have been the case.

for roughly 18 to 19 years of our lives.

And the same with the Bears.

I think, you know, that's for NFC teams.

They believe a lot in the two young teams in that conference making major steps.

And it works out sometimes.

Other times it does not.

And we're stuck with those games.

I hope in this case that it will for the Commanders.

They're a nice story, but they're a bit of a regression candidate to me.

Well,

let's look at it.

This is the positive way to look at it.

Last year.

They did it with the Jets.

And so they took an unproven team that hadn't accomplished anything.

The The Jets are proven if we want to go down.

They've been proven to do something.

Well, what I'm saying is they had proved nothing the previous year to show that they were a playoff team or could go deep into the season and play meaningful football.

And then when that blew up with the Rodgers Achilles, they doubled down on it and it blew up a second time.

So sliding in the Commanders in for the Jets, that I think increases our chances of the team du jour being successful.

But it doesn't mean that.

It's like the team that they suddenly seven primetime games to.

Like it, it's usually like a disaster signal to me.

Am I wrong?

Like, it just seems like it's an over emphasis of who they could be.

Well, it's a lot of pressure, and I think it says a lot.

Some of these island games, particularly what they've done with the Commanders.

And then, Mark, you mentioned the Bears too.

It's a real nod at the sort of crowdswell behind the quarterbacks and finding the quarterbacks.

And so, as long as the quarterbacks of those teams, and especially with these eight island games here with Washington, as long as Jaden Daniels stays healthy, then, you know, offense is going to continue to draw eyes.

It's going to continue to lead to exciting games.

And I don't think that necessarily, I mean, they're going to go through some growing pains.

Any team that...

sort of lit the league on fire like it did last year, there's a book on them now.

You're going to figure out different ways to defend that offense, how to counterattack Jaden Daniels.

But at the same time, this is, I think, a real nod and a sort of once again refocus of the league into its priority, which is the quarterback position.

Let's see.

The New York Giants.

Now, there's a team that has not proven anything, but also is a New York market.

The Jets, by the way, a ton of 1 p.m.

games this year.

They're back in their more familiar terrain.

And I am telling you, I speak for all Jets fans.

We're cool with it.

Let us just figure our shit out.

We don't need to.

We've done done it.

We've been there, done that.

Didn't work out.

Let us go play a 10 a.m.

on the West Coast for most of the season and see if we can play the guitar.

The Giants have a tough first three weeks.

Who has the toughest first opening salvo to their season?

At Commanders, at Dallas, Home Chiefs.

And then they get Jackson Dart debut in week four.

Is that when we've penciled in the Dart debut?

Yeah, that was, I think, yeah, it could be, though.

Jackson.

I think he's he's going to start the season.

I do.

I really think he's going to start the season.

I do, Trump.

I also think that someone in the schedule office wants Brian Dable fired based on how they made this schedule.

They have to have the toughest schedule.

I was going to ask, I haven't seen everyone's until, but this has to be the toughest schedule, right?

Connor mentioned that too, Dan, right?

Like that, the Giants schedule is an absolute disaster.

My Giants fans' buddies chimed in with that.

I was like, I thought because we were in last place, you're supposed to have an easy schedule.

I was like, it's really not about that.

It's like your division, you're going to have six games in that division it's a tough division and then just by the way the rotation is will depend on what divisions you play and who do they have this year do they have the they have the afc west afc west and and so you're gonna get all those tough games and you might be getting the fourth place team from those divisions so in some cases but it's still hard still tough it's only two games it's the two divisions that you don't face the entire division of you play the fourth place team so it's like it doesn't swing your schedule that much.

Oh, is that how it works?

It's a two-game difference, yeah.

Yeah, so they play the fourth-place team from like the non-AFC or the non-NFC divisions that they play.

Well, it got the entire team.

The 17th game is the fourth place team from whatever AFC division you pull from.

So, yeah, like Justice's point.

It's not that many games between winning first and last, per se.

And as Mark just said, they play the NFC North and the AFC West, which are, and they're in the NFC East.

Like, those are the three best divisions.

Like, I'm looking at their schedule right now.

There's really no let up.

There's no, like, hair's three games.

And also,

it's a bunch of road games

in a row.

We'll find out who they are.

And you've got a rookie quarterback.

Yeah, was it,

you guys correct me if I'm wrong here, please?

Was it New England last year that allowed the backup to play just a little bit at the start of the year when it was like a real gauntlet, letting Drake May ease into the real meat of the schedule?

Which I love that move.

I love that move for them.

I don't necessarily like it for the Giants because

you're facing, I thought it was a very smart move

for that Patriots team with Drake May with the Giants.

It doesn't, to Mark's point, it does not really let up at any point

through

the entire season.

So if you know that the whole road will be difficult, like I say, just play him right away.

I also think he'll start because I think he's going to have a good summer and a good training camp with Brian Dable.

And I think Brian Dable is going to be really excited to sort of remind people, hey, this is what I can do when I have a quarterback who like does the things that I tell him to do and is not Daniel Jones.

Yeah.

And also like Commanders, Cowboys, the first two weeks, I don't think those are two of the great defenses in the NFL.

So, you know, maybe it is,

you know, maybe it is an okay spot for a rookie.

The Cats.

Rip Luce back with the Cowboys, though.

That's going to be sick.

Ooh, that's true.

He's back.

The Cowboys, and I know people are going to get upset about it because everybody always does, but they are box office gold.

They always are.

And as long as they bring the, what was it,

eyeballs in the, what was your name?

R.O.I.

R.O.

Eyeballs.

People are going to, or the NFL will program them in big spots.

They have eight island games.

Opening night, their customary Thanksgiving game, a Christmas game, a Thursday night football game, two Sunday night football games, two Monday night football.

By the way, notice at the NFL, they're feeding, you have to feed all your major streamers and cable companies so everyone gets a taste of the Cowboys.

So that's why they're getting the TNF.

They're getting the SNF.

They're getting the MNF.

You're covering all those bases, Amazon, NBC, ESPN.

So there they go.

They're more than a third of their schedule will be in primetime.

Just hope, like the Commanders, they are a fun team.

to watch.

Commanders have eight island games, as we mentioned, and the Chiefs are the first team in NFL history to receive five primetime games in the first eight weeks of the season.

Listen to this, Cesi.

Week one, Chargers in Brazil.

Week three, at the Meadowlands, Giants on Sunday night football.

Week five, Jaguars Monday night football.

Week six, Lions Sunday night football.

Week eight, Commanders Monday night football.

They will also play on Thanksgiving and Christmas.

They are America's team in terms of programming.

That's how they see them.

A year ago, they played every day except on Tuesday, like we've talked about, I think it was.

I'm not surprised.

It just, it does feel like when we moved away away from the Thursday night football mandate that every team must appear on primetime at some point, we're not in that world on the same level at this point.

And so it's like, there's, it's like, it is like the acting world.

And I understand that Timothy Chalmet is not an unknown person to Michael DeGar, but like they, you pick five or six teams and they star in every film.

That like these teams are the there's like five or six teams that are in every single competition.

And Hollywood's the same way, right?

Like they, well, that's what I'm saying.

That's why we don't get any original IP anymore.

Like, you get all remakes and reimagining and moving the plot forward, but it's still familiar characters.

Yeah.

The holiday schedule.

Chiefs at Cowboys, Thanksgiving.

Packers at Lions.

The middle game on Thanksgiving.

Bengals at Ravens.

Thursday night, Thanksgiving.

Love that game.

The Black Friday game.

Bears at Eagles.

Triple header, as we said on Christmas, Wednesday, three football games in the NFL.

Cowboys at Commanders, Lions at Vikings, Broncos at Chiefs, the Lions, Cowboys, and Chiefs,

all play on both Thanksgiving and Christmas.

Any thoughts on that, guys?

As someone without a family, I love holiday games.

Your family's right here, Jordan.

Here, give us a hug.

I tried to get through that with a straight face, and I could not.

Pity me.

All right, Christmas is on a Thursday, not a Wednesday.

Okay, sorry.

Thank you, Justin, for the correction.

All right, the international slate.

All right, here we go.

There's a lot.

Here we go.

Week four.

Let's start.

Actually, I'm going to go this way.

Week five, Vikings at Browns at the Hot Toddy in London.

Broncos at Jets in London at the Hot Totty Week six.

Rams at Jaguars at Wembley Stadium in week seven.

Falcons at Colts in Berlin, week 10.

Commanders at Dolphins in Madrid, week 11.

The Vikings are are the first team in NFL history to play back-to-back international games in different countries this season, and I should say the first international game, and this I'm excited about as someone who has heritage in this area of the globe.

The Vikings at Steelers in Dublin for the first time, the NFL will play in Ireland.

And our good friend,

Handsome Hank, was on Sky Sports talking about it.

Let's check that out.

Yeah, this city, I think, I've had the opportunity to experience sporting events here, and this city is really made as a host city for these types of events, exactly sort of compact enough that when people arrive here, fan bases of whatever sport it might be, you really feel that they've taken over the city.

And I'm really excited about what we're going to see in that week leading up to September the 28th with fans of the Steelers, the Vikings, and just NFL fans from the UK, from Europe, and around the world coming here and getting an opportunity to experience the warm Irish welcome that Dublin's known for, but also, you know, great sports and entertainment event.

He will be commissioner within 12 years.

If Henry's not commissioner, I riot.

I think he has that in him.

Wait, the Vikings are playing two games in two countries in two weeks?

Oh, right.

Like, I had actually had a note to Justin and Dan that was like,

they will prove the point that this is a disastrous move for an L.

Oh, that's the greediest shit I've ever heard.

Wow.

Watch them win both games.

No, they will not.

Quadruple headers.

Oh, we're in a tough division.

Let's go to Europe and let's scavenge Europe for two weeks.

Like, I don't think that's going to happen.

They're 4-0 internationally.

Let's mine for pieces of the Berlin Wall at halftime.

Wow, that's brutal.

Listen to Hasselhoff.

Just get distracted.

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All right, some other NFL news before we say goodbye.

Derek Henry, contract extension.

This is from Schefter.

Henry and the Ravens reached agreement today on a

reached agreement Wednesday on a two-year, $30 million extension that includes $25 million, fully guaranteed over the next two seasons.

It is the largest deal in NFL history for a running back over 30 years old.

You know what,

Mike, I thought that obviously, and deservedly so, Saquon Barkley kind of took over the conversation about great running backs last year and had a remarkable 2,000-yard season,

dominated in the playoffs.

But Derrick Henry had a brilliant season in Baltimore last year, one of the best free agent signings.

If Barkley was the number one signing, Henry was the second best signing.

So staying in business with him makes a lot of sense.

You don't think Donald was the best signing, or you're just saying running backs.

The quarterback is the most important position in sports.

But yes, running back, absolutely, Barkley.

I would probably give it to Barkley overall.

I have to be fair about this.

You're being fair to the Eagles, huh?

That's good.

Listen, Progress.

That is very mature.

Yeah, good for Derrick Henry.

I do like that he got the second, speaking of Darnold, he got the second year of the deal guaranteed.

I believe Derrick Henry's salary is like fully guaranteed in 2026.

It's something that the Seahawks won't even do for quarterbacks.

And the Ravens are doing it for a running back.

Like, I think Darnold's second year of his deal at signing is only guaranteed for injury, which is like a practical guarantee, so to speak.

But nope, the Eagles and the Ravens love their running backs so much.

They're like, Yeah, man, next year is good too.

It's on us.

Like, I do, I do love that.

And I think a lot of running backs last year, I felt like kind of the running back renaissance a little bit.

You had a bunch of running backs change teams and be very impactful where they were.

Josh Jacobs, Joe Mixon.

I think I'm missing one, Aaron Jones, maybe on that list as well.

So, yeah,

running backs are back.

Hashtag

running backs matter.

Where does Henry rank?

Because I know, hmm, let me take a let's take a gander at Derrick Henry's pro football reference page because,

I mean, he's been a badass for a while now.

Justin knows that.

Don't let him out the door.

I don't like that guys are getting called like old.

I'm at that age now where like the guys who are 30 are like my age as well.

So when they get called old, like Tyler Lockett is my age.

So like we're born same year, only a few months apart.

So when he gets called like old, I'm like, f ⁇ you.

You know, I got a really old talent in the club.

Like, I can promise you.

I had a really bad one happen, Mike, in that category.

Paul Skeens, he's this Phenom.

I don't know if everybody's a baseball fan, but like, he's this Phenom starting pitcher for the Pittsburgh Pirates.

He's like 22 or so.

And he announced that he's going to be pitching for the United States in their World Baseball Classic they do every three years, MLB.

And they said, why'd you do it, Paul?

And he's like, because

Ever since I was a baby, I grew up watching the World Baseball Classic.

So I felt like I owed it to the the country to be part of it.

I was like, oh, that's great.

And then I was like thinking when I was in the bullpen at MLB.com that first spring in 2006 when they launched the World Baseball Classic.

So I was like,

I was like squarely in my professional life when that thing started.

And now this like young star athlete's like, yeah, since, you know, I was in the womb, this thing existed.

I was like, uh-oh, time's running out.

Getting old.

Getting old.

A draft pick called me,

he called me sir on the Zoom call in 2021.

I think it was D.

Eskridge.

He was like, I asked him a question on Zoom.

He was like, yeah, yes, sir.

Blah, blah.

I'm like, not like a yes, sir, like the cool kids, like, oh, yes, sir.

It was more like, yeah, yes, sir.

You know, like, oh, wait a minute.

I'm not a sir.

Am I?

Yeah, I guess.

I guess so.

Yeah, made me feel old.

Here's Henry's yardage by year.

Tennessee, his first two years,

I don't know if he was banged up or what, Justin, but 490, 744, 130.

Michael Murray and Deion Lewis.

Yes, timeshare.

Smart, very smart.

Good job.

Then 1,059, 1,540, 2,027 and 2020, 937.

He missed half the year.

1538, 1167, 1921, and 16 touchdowns as a 30-year-old running back with the Ravens last year.

So he's at 11,423 yards.

Mark, where do you think that puts him in

the top running backs of all time in rushing yardage?

Seven.

Or no, I'd say 12.

Justin?

Wait, anybody else want to take a guess?

I'm going to say, well, actually, no, that's not fair.

Justin told me, so I can't say.

No typing, Mike.

Nine.

I'm not going to look it up.

Because that sounds about the same number.

Is that around Marshawn's number?

It's kind of my point of reference there.

It feels like, let me see, I'll look up Marshawn.

Like all time, actually.

I honestly, I keep going to go down the list.

Like, I'd say 14 if I could.

Is that your final answer?

14?

He has passed Marshawn by the way.

I'd actually say 16.

I'm just like, when you're, like, you asked the question out of the blue, but it's like, I think he's, like, not going to be as high as we think because the game has changed.

So it's like in the late teens, like a 16 or 17.

You know, the game has changed, but the offenses in which he's been used are throwback offenses.

That's where he's led the league in carries.

This guy ran for 300, ran the ball 378 times for that 2020 Titans team.

Crazy.

Anyway, where is he coming?

19th, just behind Steven Jackson, just ahead of John Riggins.

Marshawn is 30th.

About

10 less yards.

Let's say he bangs out another 1,500 yards.

So put him up to...

Put him up to 13,000.

And where would that put him if he did it again this year and had another big year?

That would put him 10th between Eric Dickerson and Tony Dorset.

So he's one more big year away from knocking on the door.

If anyone ever needs a reminder of how massive of a person he is, too, because I think when you watch people on your TV, it's easy to forget

how extraordinary some of these athletes are.

Go, there's a video that was floating around, I think, two weeks ago from the Miami Grand Pri.

And I believe he was on the track.

Like a lot of the celebrities and the stars, they'll they'll go to the track before the race starts.

And there was a video of him walking around and he like doesn't fit in the camera.

I mean, and compared to the drivers who are tiny, I mean, it was, it was crazy watching him walk around.

Yeah, just

crazy watching him walk around.

It was like he was in like a Lego town or something, just like walking across.

And he, you know,

he's not just a compiler.

Like, I think he is, you know, one of those guys.

He helps define define the era that he's in.

I think he's an absolute Hall of Famer.

Maybe he needs one more year to statistically check some boxes for certain people.

But does everybody agree with that?

He needs to pass Stephen Jackson because Stephen Jackson's trying to get into the Hall of Fame right now.

They're campaigning about it every year.

But I do think that to your point, Dan, if he has one more, one of those seasons, I think the voters.

Personally, I think he's already should be in there.

Like, that's, he's a, he's a no doubt for me.

But in terms of how the the voters think in the eyes of the voters, I do think he has to at least pass, get into the early teens, if not the late single.

He's more memorable than Steven Jackson,

who, you know, I've seen in person and is also a dominating physical presence.

But like, if the Ravens got to the Super Bowl and he played a large role in that,

that would just, that would push the,

that would push the car forward.

15 yards behind Stephen Jackson.

He's about 700 yards away from getting to 15th on the list.

So I feel like.

Our king, Derrick Henry.

All right, let's see.

What else?

What else?

What else?

What else?

What else?

What else?

Ooh, this is a toughie.

Xavier Babadar, a.k.a.

the Chiefsaholic, has been sentenced to 32 years in an Oklahoma state.

Who is Chiefsaholic?

Is that one of those crazy mascot guys?

Well, this was on Connor's.

This is Connor's.

Oh, no.

Yeah.

This is the guy who robbed banks to pay for his ability to go to expensive seat-level Chiefs games for years and years.

And he went to these banks and robbed them in this wolf costume that he then wore to all the Chiefs games.

It's been a wild story.

Not a great idea, let's be honest.

Sometimes I want to hear Connor takes.

Can you?

Get Connor on real quick.

I want to hear his Chiefs-aholic take.

So anyway, he's been sentenced to 32 years in an Oklahoma State prison

for armed robbery, assault, while masked.

Well, obviously masked.

His chief's a holic.

Anyone whose nickname ends in a holic is not probably doing kind things.

And removing an ankle monitor.

Can't take the ankle monitor off, bro.

Rule number one of ankle monitors.

This comes after he was sentenced to 17 and a half years in a federal prison last fall.

That's a toughie.

So, but can you just have somebody?

I don't want to be cruel to Xavier, who's already up against it a little bit, but somebody could just take his costume, right?

And to keep the continuity at the arrowhead?

I'd think so.

That's what a costume does.

It allows other people to play the role.

Yeah, you know what, Dan, it would be like if you came to the next show in Mark's lobster shirt.

Here we go.

I would love it.

take us behind the process of the the selection of the lobster shirt and where you got it from and how it became what it is it's very simple i had a like a massive amount of um

on like clothes that needed to be put through the laundry and they were put through the like they were put through the laundry in the dryer and i grabbed this after it was uh

dried and it was crisp and so I put it on.

That's not the question that we asked.

Like, how did you come into possession?

What store did you buy it from?

Like, what did you do?

I don't even recall.

It was years.

Like, that's from a different.

I was a different person back then.

I don't even know where.

Like, that's a hard.

That's a hard question.

That would take a different show.

Imagine Jordan being so evasive about a shirt.

Well, I'm not trying to be.

Oh, there's Connor.

Hi.

Hi, Connor.

How are you, buddy?

What's up?

Well, I was told that you have takes about Chiefs a Holic, and before we sign off, we needed to hear him.

I guess that's what it comes down to.

What, that he's a criminal?

Yeah.

Like, I was told that you had specifically takes to share.

That's interesting.

I mean,

I brought up last week that I found it.

I mean, if you're going to steal.

And you're not going to give to the poor and you're essentially just going to use the money to go to Chiefs games, Like, that's one of the sadder criminal arcs that I've ever heard, right?

Like, you know,

like, you know, I just watched the Netflix documentary on the Seattle bank robber who lived in a tree house.

And he used to.

Oh, that's a great one.

Yes.

And he used to plan them.

That's got.

Have you heard about that one, Mike?

That is a crazy story.

It's

he kind of did it for fun, right?

And he just, he lived in, and they kind of guarded this tree house so no one else could get close to it.

Yes.

And he walked around nude.

He did.

There was a lot of, there was a lot of male ass in that documentary, which was tough.

It's a tough.

I mean, depending on what, you know, maybe not tough for some people.

I don't know.

But, you know.

Yeah.

Not necessarily my favorite.

Not everyone is wrong.

Yeah.

So, but, all right, so that's your take.

Mark said you had specific takes on the Chiefs of Holic, so that's why we went to the bottom.

I thought you did.

I thought you were like pretty down on Chiefsaholic.

I mean, you made it sound like you're like related to him or something.

Who is up on Chiefs of Holic?

Like, who's fair?

Yeah, who's, yeah, okay, Justin.

Yeah, what

I just love this story so much.

I think there's a documentary in the works on it, but I told a few friends like two years ago that, like, this is the perfect sports culture documentary, and I want to make it.

And I was too late, but I just, I think it's incredible that he would wear something he's so recognizable for while committing felony crimes.

It's, it's insane.

To me, that's not like because it's not even brazen.

It's just he's too dumb.

Like, he's just dumb.

And sometimes dumb, dumb is,

dumb can be really funny, and dumb can just be dumb.

And I think that's, that's just dumb.

Again, like you, you, you, you get tens of thousands of dollars.

You could invest it in the stock market.

You could buy real estate, or you could sit at like one of the medium-tier shitty football stadiums and just watch like a team that's going going to be on prime time every week anyway.

So, I don't know.

And it's cold.

It's cold.

Ice cold.

There was a playoff game where guys are just losing fingers.

Didn't someone die?

Can we, yeah, can we

put some roofs on buildings?

It's 2025.

I, I was in a line to get into a, I was like late one time.

I was a beat writer was trying to get to the Chiefs game, and I was in line, and there was just

three drunk people in the back of like a a red pickup truck that were actively grilling with charcoal.

Like it was a lit grill that wasn't chained down.

And they were just like kind of wobbling with the ebbs and flows of the truck.

And I thought this would just be the absolute worst way to die.

And so that's kind of my take on Kansas City in general.

Very good.

I'm so glad you were able to jump on.

I'm really sorry that disappointed.

No, no,

anything.

Let's keep you on for our last item that John Madden and Al Davis are major characters in a, I guess it's a biopic called Madden.

And it is Christian Bale as Al Davis and Nick Cage is John Madden.

And this via Deadline Hollywood, here's the first image.

Check it out on YouTube.

I give the Christian Bale, and by the way, Bale, tremendous actor, and I could see him disappearing in the role of Al Davis.

I am all in on Christian Bale as Al Davis.

Nicholas Cage, I don't know, man.

We're going to trust Nick with this part.

I know Nick, you know, opinions vary on Nick, but like.

He looks good in this.

Come on.

You think, all right?

Well, I think this is not the, I don't know how long the bio goes on for, but this is young Madden.

From, I'd say neck up.

This is a nice, a nice job.

Certainly by Bale.

And David O'Russell has done Three Kings.

He did silver linings.

Like, he understands the whole thing.

but like um

i think i think that cage looks good from the neck up what do you guys think

dave dan who would you rather have seen instead of nick uh it's that's a good call john goodman

well no but goodman goodman

back in the day a very good a good pick but kevin james no no

can you believe kevin james played sean payton in a movie that's in a movie that none of us saw no no one ever saw it yeah actually that could be an

HTC at the movies.

Oh, God.

The Kevin James Sean Payton movie.

So bad, it's good.

That's got to fit right into that category.

Anyway, that movie tells the story.

I'll think on that, Mike.

And if you have anything, anybody

let me know.

The first thing that I thought of was my man from Ricky Bobby and Winning Time.

Oh, Will.

Oh, I know.

Oh, yes.

That's a good one.

John, right?

John C.

Riley.

John C.

Riley.

Yes.

He was the first person.

I like that one.

That's a good one.

That's for the Madden character.

I thought you were going Will Farrell.

I'm like,

no, no, no.

No.

But I could, you know.

No, no, no, no.

John, yeah.

Because he was characterized.

Maybe you just age him up, put him in the face.

We don't go showmate.

What was John Madden ever sat down?

Put him in a fat sound.

The film tells the story of the legendary football coach's journey from his Super Bowl-winning days with the Oakland Raiders to becoming a sports broadcasting icon in the face of the Madden NFL video game series.

All right.

I'll watch that.

Just leave Bail alone.

That's kind of my thing, you know?

In what sense?

Because I think it's like let Bail cook.

And I think he will.

And I think he will.

It's just that Dark Knight was so, like, the Dark Knight trilogy was so special to me that now this is crossing over into work.

And it's just, it's something that I'm not prepared to deal with.

So, like, Bail is sort of mine.

to enjoy away from the NFL, which is creeping into like Hallmark and every other aspect of what I enjoy away from the field.

And so, there's some complicated feelings here for me for sure.

Captain's trying to get in on the mix right now.

All right, Captain's telling me the show needs to end.

My dog is jumping.

He never does this, but he's pretty amped up right now.

All right, anyway.

About is

the Declaration of Independence, but with squiggly yellow lines all over it.

I hear that.

Are you talking about the film

when he stole the Declaration of Independence?

That is my first introduction to Nick Cage.

Yep.

Yeah.

What was that one called?

The Treasure?

Hidden Treasure?

National Treasure.

National Treasure.

But he's been in some really good, actually some critically lauded indie stuff or indie-ish stuff recently.

And he kind of goes method.

And if you saw Christian Bale in the big short, like I loved the Dark Knight trilogy, but when Christian Bale was in the big short, just take the ball, Dan.

Jesus Christ.

Well, what he does is he jumps up and then he pulls it away.

I'm trying.

Let Captain sit in the chair.

We need to see him.

Oh, my God.

Okay.

Look at this sweet.

Let me know if you guys agree with this.

I told Dan one time that it looks like Captain is a character in a Wes Anderson film.

He really did.

Oh, I can still see that.

Right?

Right?

He's never been up here.

As you can tell, he's really freaked out by what's happening.

He got camera shy.

Hi, buddy.

All right.

Good stuff.

Save the National Treasure talk for our next show, which will be

on

Tuesday morning.

Make sure you're there for it.

We'll also have the Friday fun show this week.

So check that out.

I believe there's a new Rolling Thunder on the horizon on the Patreon.

Check that out.

Mike, do you have any parting words for the audience?

Yes, I wanted to make a complaint about something we kind kind of touched on very briefly in that movie discussion: there are more, no more original thoughts.

And I was thinking about that recently again when they remade, I think they're making another King Kong and Godzilla fight thing.

Yeah, enough.

Don't know why we're still doing that.

And my homie said he was at the movies the other day.

Apparently, they're still making final destinations.

Don't know if we need those either.

I don't know why those are still.

I think we're going to be able to do that.

Oh, we're at our final destination.

We've already got that.

We have final destinations.

Let's make new movies, man.

We don't need final destinations.

destinations.

No more Jurassic Parks.

No more King Kong and Godzilla fighting.

Let's stop.

Let's stop that.

Let's be original.

That's a great way to close it.

Thank you, Money Mike Dugar.

All right.

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Heed the call.

Heed the call.

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