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Dirty 30.

Dirty 30.

Hey!

Come back!

You'll be killed!

You'll be killed!

Dirty 30.

Hello and welcome to day three of free agency.

Heeding that call.

Dan Hans is here.

It's not like the streets of Tokyo.

No panic here.

We got it totally under control.

Dan Hansis, Mark Sessler with our weekly guests, Jordan Rodriguez and Michael Sean Dugar of the Athletic.

Sess dog, you ready for this?

Well, I am.

I've got a bit of a quip at this point.

Like, it's, you know, we're here on Wednesday.

It's March 12th.

We're deep into this.

And we've named the show Dirty 30 multiple times.

And it's never been 30 minutes.

So, like, I can we can we

if someone said you have to get in and out and do something in 30 minutes, can we do it?

Or it's like, oh, I need 25 more minutes to like, can you know, figure out what I'm doing?

Like, that's that would be my concern.

My concern is

sometimes when we have these conversations, they're a little troubling to me since you're my partner in business.

Um, we could do

a dirty 30 and do an incomplete show, or do a filthy 45

or even a 60, a sickening 60 and do the

right show.

545.

I'm fine with the other options.

But let's set

the mission, the expectations out of the gate.

The goal is dirty 30.

The goal is 30.

Mike, the goal is dirty 30.

Start the clock, Justin.

Mike, the goal

is dirty 30.

Am I on the clock?

Am I first?

No, we're just talking.

This is just called conversation.

Yeah.

Oh, Corey, we're just like chipping the minute.

We're just mining the minutes long.

We're just chipping out.

I didn't want to cut into the time if I wasn't saying something substantive.

That's all.

I wanted to be efficient.

The horns broke all of our brains.

Mark, this is your fault.

Now you got everyone thinking about the time and whether or not it's the right time to speak.

It's just, I want everyone to feel comfortable despite what my

thing that we blame on Mark.

Like, that's a new team.

Actually, I've gotten some helpful advice already, subtly, from this show.

Now,

sickening 60, now I know what to write in Mark's birthday card next year.

Oh, that's good.

You know what, Jordan?

It's a little too much right there.

I'll accept it this one time.

Not entirely.

Sickening 600, am I right?

I'm young.

I'm sorry, my eye hasn't stopped touching for three days.

I'm young, something no one young has ever said.

Well, okay, fair enough.

How are you doing, fellow kids?

Today was a negative day.

It appears they're beginning to understand what is happening.

I may have to kill them all.

It's like when the veterans come into training camps, I'm in the best shape of my life in like year 12 or whatever.

It's like, no, you're not.

Nah.

Just like Justin can't dunk at 33.

so well now i'm on justin's side i'm taking it from every front so now i'm with justin like boom ageism is not fair for justin so that is my favorite it's probably my favorite uh training camp cliche is like yeah i'm in the best shape of my life uh i think number two would probably be when guys say in the offseason when they get asked like what they worked on and it was like they all say some variation of like getting like bigger stronger and faster as if there are other things that they would have been working on

Yeah.

Everything's slowed down for me.

You know, we've been tracking these.

Yeah, that was a

one of my long-standing pieces over at dot-com was the trope alert, tracking tropes in the offseason.

And that was always my favorite.

The other one I always loved was

actually,

I'm better after my devastating lower body injury.

It's like, well,

I don't know.

Probably not.

The game has really slowed down for you at that point.

The game slowed down thing, though, I do buy.

I do buy that.

Particularly when it comes

from guys who play at the line of scrimmage.

Because, yeah, when you're outside backer in the SEC,

it's not moving nearly as fast as what's going on with these linemen.

All the alignment that you're playing now are the most athletic linemen you've ever seen.

And everything's hitting fast.

That one I buy for all positions, but like when I've heard linemen talk about that and explain it in great detail and then spouting the cliche, that one I can buy.

All the other ones, I'm like, yeah, nah, you're you're not back better than ever to dance point after you like had surgery to clean up something in your ankle.

Probably not.

You're probably a little slower, which is okay, but you probably are.

I buy it when that British woman is telling me that it's accurate.

The woman we just, the trope alert woman, when she's telling me that, I'm like, I'm kind of buying it.

I'm buying it.

Trope Alert.

Okay, can I just say

you're on the West Coast and you're doing free agency, you set your alarm for like ungodly hours, including in like hour intervals so that you don't miss anything because every all news is broken on

East Coast type life.

And so, this alarm that you keep running, it makes me want to die.

So, thank you.

I've heard it at 2 a.m., 3 a.m., 4 a.m., 5 a.m., 6 a.m.,

and also right now.

So, thank you very much for that.

That's the goal.

That's what we try to do whenever Mark and I have our guests on the show is to make them feel like they want to die.

You know what, Justin, why don't we reset the dirty 30?

Because we we do have a lot to get to.

Mark, I apologize in advance,

but this is the right thing to do.

All right, here we go.

Let's get into it.

Coming up a little bit later,

I'm loath.

Like, I don't like this.

I don't like this because sneaky,

bit of a la ravio magnifico, the guy that's like, hey, let me give you a little unsolicited advice.

It's like, yeah, asshole, like, you got everything under control in your life.

You know what I mean?

But we're going going to give out some unsolicited advice to teams in the NFL three days into free agency, and we'll try not to be that guy when we do it.

We're trying to just be helpful.

Seems right.

Seems feels like the right way to handle it, George.

My sister, I have a twin sister named Maddie.

You guys should all go check out her new show with Keanu Reeves on the Roku channel.

Yeah, she's like hanging out.

Hey, with Type Pool.

She's hanging out with Keanu Reeves.

So I'm very proud of her.

She's a marine scientist.

She's incredible.

She also has this like devastatingly cutting line that she uses frequently because she is so nice and just like just a sunbeam of a human.

However, when she is ready to dish out some unsolicited advice, often of the deeply devastating variety, she says, I'm not judging.

I'm just noticing.

Yeah.

It kills me.

It just destroys me every single time.

There it is.

And you do have an identical twin, like you're saying, who highly successful, successful, has a cooler job than us

and hangs out with Keanu Reeves and

holds his attention, and he seems to be legitimately excited to be in the presence of your sister.

But did your sister predict Geno Smith being traded to the Ravens?

I got one.

So take that.

That was a great sit.

That was great.

Thank you.

All right, let's reset the clock because we want to get this right.

We want to do this right.

30-30.

Let's get to it.

Before we get to unsolicited advice, let's do a little bit of news.

And let's start, Jordan, with the team that you cover professionally.

The Rams, who have done what many expected, which is officially say bye-bye to wide receiver Cooper Cup,

who is now on the open market.

He goes to, I think, the top of the market

or near it, I would say, but I also want to be mindful of our own Ten commandments.

You know, pay for the game,

thou shall pay thy name, only thy game.

So, as Cooper Cup hits the market, I have no doubt that he can help a team, Jordan.

But is he someone who could be a difference maker wherever he ends up landing?

I think it will depend on the team because I have no doubt that he's got football left and good, really good quality football as well.

But it will depend on like what exactly a team is going to be asking or expecting of him.

Really, the big holdup here was twofold.

One,

it's the injury history that he's had.

And then two, it was the contract and not that not being reflective of how often he was able to be on the field, how much of the offense was running through him, how they often had to pivot when he was not available.

So now Sean McVay wanting to run the entire system through Puka Nakua and also obviously signing Devontae Adams and extending 2-2 Atwell to really, I think, target more of the perimeter and complementary roles with with Puka Nakua versus multiple players who kind of all are within the same skill set and do the same things.

So, Cooper, if he's going to a team, he will be a part to a whole.

You have to have a plan for him and

understand

what

puzzle piece he can fit within that offense.

I think he will be extremely good for a team with a young quarterback.

I think he'll be extremely good for a team who wants to run the ball because even when he was injured and playing through a lot of stuff, he he always totally sold out in the run game.

And I mean that as a good thing.

He would just totally be like all over and the motion player, do kind of all the dirty work.

So I think that those qualities, a team looking for those specific things and not necessarily a total one or even a total two, but really a supplementary puzzle piece, somebody who can come in and contribute and also have a leadership role in the room.

I think that that would be a good fit for him.

What if you're Cooper Cup and you've probably got

other people in your life?

You've got, I don't know if he has children, but it's like you just stay exactly where you are and you become a member of the Chargers.

I could totally see him with him.

Young quarterback and a run team.

I could totally see him with the Chargers.

I know this is a little bit veering into trope territory, but I could see him with the Patriots.

I could see him fitting in with the Houston Texans.

Nick Cayley is over there.

I could see him, honestly, I could see him going to the Steelers, although we don't know whether or not they'll have a young quarterback there.

We're still waiting on that.

could see him with the Vikings, I could see him within a variety of places.

But again,

you're going to have to have a really detailed outline plan for him.

And yes, he does have a young family here in Los Angeles.

So not uprooting them, I would imagine, is a preference for him.

Let's not sleep, Michael Sean Dugard either on Howie Roseman, you know, bringing him to the Eagles.

You might see some traits in Cooper Cup that he sees as winning traits.

Just throwing that out there.

Here's some developing news.

This coming from Schefter.

Sources, Colin, free agent quarterback Russell Wilson is scheduled to fly tonight to Cleveland to visit with the Browns before being scheduled to fly to New York on Thursday night to visit with the Giants.

Okay, so here's the market for Russell Wilson, which the reporting out there is that the Wilson market

mic had been flat other than the Giants connection.

Okay, and now here come the Browns, who obviously traded for Kenny Pickett this week, but otherwise have nothing on that roster.

You buying this as a potential destination?

And how would that change potential draft plans if that's how this ends?

Big picture.

I wish that it's better for the players, probably just to their wallets, the way free agency is currently set up.

But I do wish it was more like this where people could take more visits and take their time.

You'd probably get better marriages in total, like higher percentage free agent hits if teams got to like meet with the person, not necessarily work out, but just sit down and just like talk about a plan.

Like Jordan was saying, you just get a lot of people who are on the phone with their agent.

It's like, yo, I got this much guarantees from here and this much guarantees from here.

And then like, you got a guy making decisions like on FaceTime and like Dubai or something like that.

It's like, all right, take the guarantees from there.

All right, I'm going to go back to doing whatever.

I'll call you back.

Just feel like that's just a reckless process.

So I do like that there are still some guys

like, I want to go meet with the people before I commit to moving my family there like russ has uh russ has like four or five kids whatever he's always making kids uh i don't like the fit for the browns uh for what it's worth uh i don't necessarily like it for the giants either i think he should just go back to pittsburgh um but with your when you only have like candy pickett and like half-legged Deshaun Watson, like you do have to do something.

You have to try to check every box.

And we've kind of known for a while that Cleveland is not a big fan of taking either of the guys that may be available to them in the draft, Cam Ward, or Shadur Sanders.

Not to say they won't, but they need a veteran going into the draft.

I think that makes sense to at least talk to Russ if you're Cleveland and if you are New York.

I think it shouldn't alter your draft plans if you're either team.

Even if you have Russell Wilson going into 2025 draft, you should probably still take a quarterback.

Maybe that just removes taking one at two or three off the board.

But even then, I just think that Russ is kind of one of those guys, and I think Aaron Rodgers is too, where they want to just be the plan, you know, like not necessarily have to leave it open-ended or end up in a situation like Kirk Cousins was last year, where it's like, yeah, I'm making more money and I'm more proven than the young buck, but at the first sign of me, like maybe agent or something like that, are you just going to punt on me for the young buck, which is why I don't like Russell in either of those situations and why I just think he should just go back to Pittsburgh.

I guess I would ask this.

Like, if you, so you acquire Kenny Pickett and you're interested in adding Russell Wilson,

this is a team that is the number number two pick in the draft.

Is it more evidence that these teams in the top five are not interested in these quarterbacks that are available, Cam Ward or Shador Sanders?

It's like

in another world, like Cleveland has the chance to take one of the top two quarterbacks available in the draft, and it seems like everyone is doing an end around to get away from drafting one of these guys and centering the franchise around them.

It's like, I don't have a huge problem with Russell Wilson going to Cleveland if there was nothing else available, but like these are your other options.

And like, so you're not going to have two veterans and then add a rookie.

Like

it feels a little bit, it feels like an indicator to me that we're not into these like

rookie quarterbacks.

Or

the Browns seem like they're a little bit on tilt right now to me.

Wow.

I'm not

high on their offseason, put it that way so far.

The huge war deal, trading for Kenny Pickett at all.

I'm rubbed the wrong way by how they just kind of kicked Nick Chubb out the door.

And they're like, someone else want to take him on as a reclamation project we don't want him in our locker room and now you're going to bring in a washed russell wilson potentially um if you if you don't like your draft pick and i don't know like i'd rather just that would be telegraphing what i'm doing it if i sign wilson right and then i'd like to give myself a little ability to be nimble and and show not show my uh leverage in my cards or the trade potential i don't know i just like i hope they know what they're doing for your sake oh i'm sure they do based on like based on the 40 years i've been following this team they do can i i know we i know we got to move but can i ask one question i'm i was wondering about this earlier because when you do see this news of of potentially so like soliciting a veteran quarterback or someone who is still looking for a home that has tenure i almost wonder if it's also sort of a conversation about how um you don't want a young person coming in that will be affected by the presence of deshaun watson on the roster like um the fact that somebody who they paid that much money who still has a presence uh in that building, who is still in that building, like who has not been released, like I almost wonder, you really want to make sure the runway is clear most times at these places if you are going to go after a young quarterback.

And older, more veteran quarterbacks, certainly Russell Wilson strikes me as somebody who will be like deeply unbothered by the presence of a former quote-unquote franchise or at least someone signed to be that on the roster.

It also just seems like the Browns are just trying to not shop Hungry in the draft, which I do think is like a healthy overall strategy.

Like, you don't have to take Cam, Ward, or Shadur if you don't love them, just because you only have Kenny Pickett on the roster.

I do think that is a dangerous thing to do.

And we've seen teams do.

You're into the draft with needing whatever it is, a left tackle, a quarterback.

Yeah, like you just can't, you can't go in there starving, you know, for whatever it is.

I think a lot of teams get themselves in trouble.

And the position, obviously, where that is most dangerous is quarterback.

That way, you can take Cam or Shadur or whoever, Dart, Milro, Ears, if you like them,

but you don't have to.

And I think that's probably the healthiest way to go about the draft.

Number eight in our Ten Commandments, do not leave gaping roster holes

entering the draft.

In other news, Joey Bosa is the new Von Miller, I guess the finisher for the Bills defense.

They sign the oft-injured veteran one-year 12.6.

That is the same Joey Bosa who has has been a Pro Bowl player in his career, but he's always hurt.

This is one of those buyer beware guys.

This is definitely one of the Ten Commandments, game versus name.

Last year, 14 games, 34 total pressures.

The chances,

Mark, that Joey Bosa stays healthy and is a regular contributor for the Bills seems very slim to me, but I also get why you take a flyer because he is a talented guy.

Well, yeah, and compared to, I don't know, one of my

reactions to this week is like some of these contracts for mid-level individuals are outrageous.

So I don't have a problem with this contract or the concept that the bills say our window is still open.

We are going to use this player in a certain way and go with it.

Like if you get 12 to 13 games out of them, it works.

And then you move on from there if you need to.

But like some of these, some of the contracts we've seen are just so to me, and it's like relative to what is happening with the cap, but they're outrageous.

And like, to me, this feels like a slight coup d'état from the East Coast.

Nice job, Buffalo.

Like, I don't hate this.

I mean, I don't hate it either.

I just don't think it's going to work.

It looks great in March, and then he's not going to play.

He's just not going to play.

Yeah, but it's one.

No, I mean, it's a one-year commitment.

Cool, but he's still not going to play.

He'll be hurt.

Mark my words.

He won't be anywhere near the field.

Well, you and I and all of, or gambling, you're saying he's going to play six games, and I'm saying he's going to play 12.

But that's not great either.

That's all I'm saying.

14.

But yeah, sure, I see what you're saying, but like, but I mean, like, it's not, that's where it moves into it's not our money.

Well, that's true.

That should like

that was, that was going to be unofficially like my 11th commandment was like,

if, if you're rationale for signing the guy starts with, if he can just stay healthy, you probably just shouldn't do it.

Just like generally as a ruler.

That was the Chargers' problem.

Is that how everyone feels about

this Bosa brother, though?

Is that how we all feel about him?

Like, we would stay away at all costs for $12 million.

It's not that.

It's just you're, this is one of the Ten Commandments.

Don't inherit someone else's problems expecting different results.

You just signed a guy for $12.5 million guaranteed who's never going to play.

Prove me wrong, Joey.

That's all I'm going to say.

Expensive smokescreen if they go after an edge rusher, too.

True.

They also, Buffalo traded a former first-round pick, Kair Elam, and a 2025th sixth-round pick to Dallas for a fifth round and a future seventh-round pick.

A lot of stuff, a lot of action for the Bills.

Maybe Justin hit it up in the eight o'clock delight, anything else.

The Cowboys also sign Edge Payton Turner.

They re-signed wide receiver returner Kevante Turpin.

So they add those two guys.

The Saints bring back tight end Juwan Johnson.

I think that was a smart move.

Three years for 30.

They also signed safety Justin Reed, three for 31 and a half.

And restructure Tyron Matthew, his contract to keep him with New Orleans.

Are we talking about the Saints later in today's show?

Anybody?

Yes, no?

I don't plan on discussing him much ever.

Okay, Michael, you got him.

If you have them later in the show, we'll hold right there with anything around that.

The Chiefs restructure the contracts of Patrick Mahomes and Chris Jones, creating nearly $50 million in cap space.

They signed tight end Bobby Tanyan.

And one of the veteran wide receivers is off the board.

The Ravens bring in DeAndre Hopkins, one for six.

They also re-signed fullback Patrick Ricard, one-year deal.

They release cornerback Arthur Millette.

Hopkins, Jordan to the Ravens, just like last year when Derrick Henry to the Ravens, it's just like it makes so much sense.

This makes sense.

I 100% agree.

And also re-signing Patrick Ricard as well.

Don't you guys feel like, you know, like people say, oh, Mercury's in retrograde or whatever.

And that's the sign that everything is a little bit tilted.

Like Patrick Ricard having another one-year deal with the Ravens, everything is right.

The solar system is back in alignment.

The asteroid may still come, but hey, we're going to be aligned when it does, so it'll be fine.

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Okay, so

let's do it.

Let's get right into it.

Where are we at the dirty 30?

We're at 14 minutes, Mark.

I think we're going to get it in.

I think we're going to do this in 30.

That's my guess.

It is not my command.

I am flexible, and we already restarted the clock at one point.

I don't remember that.

I don't remember restarting at all.

We didn't.

I do.

I feel like you're almost daring me to restart the clock again, Mark.

It has no meaning.

There's nothing about that.

It's not anchored to anything.

It's a timepiece up on the top of the screen.

Let's be honest, it's connected to nothing.

Anything going on in the live chat, Justin, before we dive into the seg?

I'm trying to make your magazine cover over here.

Okay, that's way more important.

So sorry, all the people in the live stream, you know, you get it.

There important things there's priorities all right let's get into the scene here this is something you wanted to talk about jason ruse can we talk about how almost every tweet from rap sheep and shafter announcing deals credits the agent super weird yes people are picking up on it

and i i do um

and i think the pushback you're seeing from people is uh good and warranted and nobody wants that junk in our timeline so clean it up I don't know what else it's also just so weird that the agents can talk about the deals and NFL network can talk about the deals and NFL teams can tweet or the NFL, excuse me, can use its Twitter account to put up a graphic of the player and his terms and everything and the teams can say nothing.

They can't.

Like you get team sites citing like reports like we have reportedly signed.

Like, dude, you're the Panthers.

You didn't reportedly do nothing.

You either know or you don't.

But they can't do it until today at like 1 o'clock Pacific or whatever.

It's such a...

It's such a weird rule to like watching NFL network and then discuss like a signing somewhere.

And it's just like, why can't the team actually say something?

It's so dumb.

And then, yeah, you get like, you can, you can literally see what the agent said to Schifter and Rappaport.

Like, it's always word for word, like, how many Pro Bowls the guys made, or like, what impact it'll have on the team.

It's like, come on.

Don't need it.

And also, like,

the Joe football fan doesn't need to know, oh, another deal done by Terry Garfield.

It's like,

no one gives a shit.

Do you care?

Does this weigh on Tom Pellisero's conscience in the middle, like at 3:12 a.m.

in the middle of the night?

You're presupposing that Tom Pellisero has a conscience.

I am.

I did presuppose that.

All right, let's get into it this segment.

Pell raiser.

Everyone else is like, do not taunt.

Do we not taunt?

No, we can't say anything.

I need to protect my relationship with the agents.

Jordan, your call.

There's a lot of copy-paste happening from these agents.

They're lightning fast with the thumbs.

I'll tell you what.

All right, let's get into it.

Unsolicited advice.

I'll go first.

I am typically

against, and I try to steer clear the use of terms that achieve,

let's call it cringy ubiquitousness

by sports writers and ew, podcasters on social media.

But I'll say this for the one and only time in my life to get to my point about the current state and game plan of the New England Patriots.

Here we go.

Kill me.

Hey, Patriots, let's keep the main thing, the main thing.

Not judging, just noticing.

That's the only time I'll ever say that.

Year two, Drake May.

Let's cook, baby.

Overall, we're on the right track.

Let me start here.

We dumped the miscast head coach and his staff, and then nabbed Vrabel, then went in the attic and found behind an old Antoine Walker Budweiser promotional cardboard cut out and behind the framed autographed godsmack poster

a large box filled with packing peanuts and Josh McDaniels

hey here's some old junk that could be useful it's like when I realized um

That the old PS4 I had in my in my storage,

you could use it for Fortnite.

so I hooked it up for the kids.

It's like, oh, cool.

That was smart.

So, Josh McDaniels is here again.

Good.

But the biggest work is left to be done, given the incredible amount of cap space and premium draft positioning, it's imperative that the Pats honor thy organizational vision.

That's number 10 in the Ten Commandments.

And that is get Drake May his toys.

And you watch DK Metcalf get moved to Washington at 65 cents on the dollar.

And Chris Godwin turned his nose up at your money to stay home in Tampa.

What are you going to do?

T.

Higgins has been hanging out there for months.

You know, the Bengals don't want to pay him.

They're looking for any excuse, but he's still there.

I would say go get him.

Listen, if the Pats are in the red zone in week one in Buffalo

and they have a chance to steal a game and get their season off to a beautiful start, and Drake May is targeting

Mac Hollins and, I don't know,

Keenan Allen,

Then you have failed your young quarterback.

So you have money, you have assets.

Go get the high-end receiver, figure it out, pair him with another playmaker.

Cooper Cup sounds like a nice fit.

We mentioned it earlier.

Go get another top offensive lineman, not possibility in the draft.

I like Morgan Moses.

He's a steady veteran, 34-year-old guy.

But right now, I look at what they've done so far and I say, let's not

stop.

Let's honor thy organizational vision.

And remember, when you go into this new season, when you go into minicamp, the storyline should be: the Patriots have set up Drake May to take a huge leap in year two.

Do you need a Tums after that?

Yeah, I do.

That was tough.

That was tough.

I do like that, though.

I like it because,

you know, this is the time to do it, too, while your young quarterback is cheap.

And yes, we've seen teams that pay their quarterback also build a great infrastructure around their quarterback, even after they pay him.

The Eagles and Dan's favorite GM, Howie Roseman, are stellar examples of this.

But at the same time, this is the time to swing big on the playmakers.

And I would fully expect them to attack this position in the draft.

But again, according to the 10 commandments of heed the call, you should not go into the draft shopping overly hungry at receiver because other teams will f ⁇ with you and they will try to get you from getting the players that you like and want.

So I do think that this is going to be a kind of a pivotal next couple of weeks for the Patriots because I agree.

They should take a big swing.

They should just double bird right at some organization that's unwilling to pay their star receiverslash receivers and just throw the bag at them.

Honestly, they should because it's worth it to get Drake May some playmakers

like a like a Godsmack fan, like at the waving at the professors at the community college.

I get it, yeah.

Double birds, Godsmack.

Yes, Mark.

You'd love to see like Travis Hunter fall to New England.

That would be fitting.

You know, like Drake May went to the Pro Bowl and there was a report that he was like talking to all these people, trying to recruit all these wide receivers and people to come to New England.

They've not gotten that done.

Like I'm not...

a huge fan of what they've done this this in this free agency period.

I think it's a lot of sort of like mid-level guys they paid a lot of money to um well it's like the it's like the predictable way right mark of the team that has all the money in the world they are going to overpay and they're going to improve the roster but i mean do they actually is this is it going to make the team better long term i know for you know harold landry you know cap casualty in tennessee he joins them on a three-year deal they bring in carlton davis on a three-year deal to to play him across from christian gonzalez that's fine like the milton williams signing like a lot of people that are, that no ball say that's a great signing.

I think it's a little interesting that he's the fourth highest paid defensive tackle by average annual salary and he plays less than 50% of snaps with Philadelphia.

It's like, okay, like, are you, that was from Bill Barnwell, by the way.

If you, um, if you

believe in these guys, maybe they do take the leap.

But sometimes it feels like these teams that have all the money, they're just throwing the money everywhere and it's probably not going to be, look so great in a couple of years.

It just doesn't typically work, right?

like two years from now most of these names are somewhere else i i think it's going to work for them in the short term to be honest i like their moves they're better they're better yeah and honestly when you stink as bad as they have last couple years just getting better like it just makes everyone around there feel so good it really the fans like people who are cutting the checks like the players your locker room like you can't just just be stinky forever like it is and it's already hard enough to get people to go out to to new england anyway like if you visit there you're like oh this isn't as great as like insert city here that has its own like nice new practice facility uh you know and all that stuff so i i like the only one i'm a little skeptical of is probably of uh what's his foliage is beautiful yeah oh yeah robert spillane that's a good one that's that's probably the only multi-year deal that i was like i probably wouldn't have done that but like everything else i thought made sense uh and was and makes them a better team and just to be clear mike i'm not i'm not taking down um

i'm not taking down the patriots and what they've done i'm just saying, let's not

lose sight of the main objective, I feel like, of this offseason.

And it's certainly not too late.

That's all I'm saying.

Be where your feet are.

Yes.

And I'll never say it again.

By the way, who's the quarterback that you love, Mark?

What's his name?

The backup in New England?

Milton.

Yeah, why are they like this thing, like we're going to add Josh Dobbs on the team?

And then I guess Philip

maybe for the number one overall pick or something or whatever his value might be.

But if he's so good,

no, but if he's so good,

quarterbacks do get hurt.

Have him as your backup quarterback.

What's wrong with that?

I think he has trade value.

They just signed Josh Dobbs to be the that's what I just said.

Like, why, if you, why not just ride with, oh man, we really like, we want to continue to develop our number two, um, Milton, because we think, you know, he could be a dude for us if we ever lose our quarterback.

Instead, Josh Dobbs is like a one-hit wonder on the level of Marcy's playground.

I've said too much.

Mark, it's your turn.

So I'm going to focus on the San Francisco 49ers.

There were a couple years, like a couple years back, early in the John Lynch

GM run,

we were at the Combine.

And, you know, if you're in Indianapolis, like the hotel is connected.

to everything else.

You can just walk down the carpeted stairs.

And I wore my bathrobe from

the hotel to our suite in Lucas Oil Stadium.

And like, we did it, we had to, we had to do a show that night, but I was like, I'm just going to do the show in my bathrobe.

And like betwixt the walk from the hotel to the Lucas Oil Stadium suite,

John Lynch looked at me from across the room and was like, but this guy, who is this person?

And I want to know who it is.

And I want to rule him out of my team planning right now.

And so it was like he was looking at players and like people that he loved.

And like he ruled me out immediately.

immediately and that was a smart move but it was like a player to add to the roster?

Well, I think he was just like because but back then you got players walking around at Lucas Oil got everyone like everyone's just sort of moving around but it's like here's a man in a bathrobe walking around like doesn't seem serious doesn't seem to understand what the program is here and he sucks that one heads up Mark only two minutes left in the show okay go ahead okay all I would say is be

what you are at this point because I trust you to rebuild this team but you have moved on from so many people.

Debo Samuel, Leonard Floyd, Drake Greenlot, Shaverius Ward, Javon Hargrave, Kyle Yuschak, all these guys who funga, Dan's guy, like what are you going to be?

Go all the way.

I would say go all the way and maybe even Ayuk gets moved.

Whatever it is, don't be one-fourth of a team.

Go all the way.

Like, if you're the Niners, I trust you to rebuild.

I trust the coach and the GM to take like a two-year kind of a one-year rebuild situation.

Do it.

I trust you.

Yeah, I'm with you on that.

You know what I think about with the Niners too, Mark?

Like it reminds me, as I'm want to do, I'll make a Yankees analogy.

Last year, they had Juan Soto and they had Aaron Judge, who performed like Babe Ruth, and they had Garrett Cole as their ace, and they get to the World Series and they fail.

They fall short and they lose.

Cut to this spring.

Garrett Cole blows out his elbow.

Soto signs with the Mets.

Stanton's elbows don't work anymore.

We got all sorts of issues.

And you're thinking to yourself, man, last year really was our all-in year and we didn't get it done.

That last Niners lost to the Chiefs in the Super Bowl is what I feel like was their all-in,

their last big bite.

And then last year was an all-in year that ended with double-digit losses, which has got to be hyper frustrating for the brain trust there because they knew, they knew all this was coming.

They were like, we're going to have a lot of pain in early 2025, but We have this 24 team we feel great about.

McCaffrey gets hurt.

Everything goes wrong.

And now they're in pivot mode.

And it's just, I think, the frustrating thing is they're in pivot mode, not off like the way the Yankees, at least they got to the equivalent of the Super Bowl.

They're coming off a six and 11 season, and now they're figuring out their mess.

But I think I'm with you.

I think what you're saying, Mark, that you trust them to figure it out because they've built up a juggernaut before and they can do it again.

Yes, correct.

I have a point to make, but I am hyper-focused on the clock.

Oh, don't worry, because guess what's about to happen?

Hit it, Gravy.

They'll be 45.

Hell yeah.

Go ahead and make your point, John.

Yeah, I think that now, because the cap is expanding at this like crazy historic rate, I think now teams are going to start following more and more this trend of these like sprint rebuilds.

And I think that's what they're doing.

They still have a couple of players that they are retaining who elevate at key positions, and they are at some point going to pay the quarterback.

Although I don't know that they're going to make that an easy process because I don't think they want to just blow out their entire salary cap on one one player.

And I think that in doing that, they're going to try to just get younger at a couple of other positions.

And again, because the salary cap and because like the league sort of timeline is starting to move

faster than ever, teams are changing and evolving.

Some teams are changing and evolving faster than ever.

This is a possibility.

There are blueprints of this now to sort of follow and check your work against.

And I do think that that's kind of what you're looking at.

You can do that because you have continuity in your front office, you have continuity in your executive team and scouting staff, and you have continuity at head coach and his various assistants as well.

So the communication gaps, there are none really.

You just go.

And I think that's what you're going to see from the 49ers is they'll hope to overachieve expectations.

So other teams in the NFC West certainly cannot let them do that.

They have to seize sort of this moment and try to capitalize even more so than the 49ers might be hoping to.

Yeah, I like, I actually, all the 49ers moves make a lot of sense to me.

They kind of they were throwing a lot of cash at their roster for a little bit, so it doesn't it makes sense that they're not throwing more cash to keep guys who are like good players, but probably not like super elite players unless they've drafted someone at their position to replace them, which you've seen at some of these spots.

I can see why they didn't throw a bunch of money at Treberius Ward, for instance, or even Hofunga.

They probably wanted to keep Dre Greenlaw, but like, you know, coming off the injury, like, hey, man, if you're going to go get paid somewhere else, it makes sense.

Like, I still think they have premier players, which is what you need.

Basically, it's all about roi in the nfl anyway do i got guys who are who are premier dudes playing like premier dudes on their premier contracts and then do i have some premier guys who are making minimum wage well there you go like that's what they had before they had a cheap hofunga uh they had a cheap chevron ward you know cheap other you know positions as long as you can have that that balance bosa is expensive fred's expensive brock's about to be expensive trent williams is expensive cmc is expensive all right to balance that out we can't just have a bunch of b plus and c level guys making b plus and c level money.

We need some other guys who are B plus and C minus or whatever making minimum wage.

Like it all makes sense to me, particularly with how much cash they spend.

I think they're right behind the Eagles, like money committed to Void Years last year or something like that.

Like when you have that much cash and stuff, you can't add a bunch.

Sometimes you are just going to have to subtract and trust your draft classes, which the last one they had was actually pretty good.

Can I just add one more thing, Mark, and I'll throw it to you.

We're kind of halfway here to breaking it down, right?

Like,

is there any temptation to go all the way through with this?

And I'll use, I'll point out Christian McCaffrey as an example.

And I know he's coming off an injury-wrecked year, and maybe that lowers his price tag.

But man, I wonder if there's any temptation to just keep going, keep stripping it back, and accumulate a ton of draft picks and make a decision on Brock Purdy if that's the guy you're building around, or if they're going to kind of go with more like where they are now, which is stripping down, but moving forward.

I think Shanahan needs his quarterback.

And so I don't,

I'm not tempted to move on from Brock Purdy at all.

I kind of think that fits.

But when it comes to Christian McCaffrey, like Brandon Ayuk, Christian McCaffrey.

Yeah, well, I mean, we've been talking to Ayuk for weeks.

I think kind of anyone is available at this point.

And I think there's, you know, there's whispers out there that that's the case, that anyone, they would listen to anything like any team would.

But

what is the point of Christian McCaffrey at this, right now, at this juncture?

If you're going to be a team that gets younger, to Mike's point, like you're going to look for guys that fill in the gaps money-wise, like I would

be willing to restart the 49ers on some level.

And that's sort of what I'm saying.

It's like, but don't do it two-thirds of the way.

Do it.

Jordan, you are less need.

You're less need, Jordan.

I offer you Christian McCaffrey for a two and a three.

No.

They're not.

From less need's perspective or your own.

Yeah, no, they would, they're not.

Yeah, not not at this point.

Um, stripping down, but moving forward is the story of Mark in the bathrobe, I think.

Well, there was a lot, there a lot happened that day, many events.

I remember it, I was there.

Uh, money Mike, you're up.

All right, my unsolicited advice, uh, which I too am just not a fan of receiving, so I so I get the irony.

It's like, like, your life is so in order, bro.

Like, how about you?

Get the hell out of my face.

All right, take a walk.

Wow, that was aggressive.

That was a New Yorker

energy.

Danny, what's this guy giving you advice for?

He shouldn't be giving you no advice.

All right, dad.

It's more so the idea of, I think, you don't have to have your life.

A good idea can come from anywhere, so you don't have to have your life in place to necessarily give good advice.

Not every therapist has it together, per se, right?

But you could still be a good therapist.

It's just like, I didn't ask you.

See, I asked therapist.

I guess that would be the difference that the unsolicited part

is the issue with me.

Anyway, my unsolicited advice goes to the New Orleans Saints.

My advice is very simple.

Please stop.

It's over.

Yeah.

Like,

it's over.

Keep swiping this credit card.

Trying to keep all this together.

It's not working, guys.

You're on the hamster wheel.

Please get off.

Please get off.

You're done.

And not even that you have bad players per se, but you have a bad team building philosophy, and you're just compounding the issue every offseason.

Every offseason, it's just, yeah, they restructured every contract to the max.

And it's not even like, before it was, okay, we restructured Alvin Kamara, Marshawn Lattimore, Cam Jordan.

Like, these are all, okay, I can see rolling the dice on them.

But I think this year they restructured Derek Carr, I think.

Bad idea.

Carl Granderson, I think, no.

The big defensive lineman who had that pick in the Chiefs game prime time.

Last name's like Saunders, I i think kalen kalen saunders yeah kalen saunders yeah no like

you you have to do what mark is suggesting the niners do is just completely just sell this thing sell this thing and do a maybe elongated version of what the commanders just just had to do what the rams did after they kind of went all in with their books like and what the commanders and rams just showed you it doesn't have to be forever You might even mess around and be a frisky wild card team during your quote-unquote rebuild year, but you're just going to have to do it.

They're delaying the inevitable, and it is really bad.

Like, even the signings they made are not awful.

Like, Justin Reed, Chase Young, cool.

Like, that's not, that's not bad.

Juwan Johnson might be fine, but they're just trying to stay relevant and stay in this middle ground, which in the NFL is arguably the worst place to be.

You'd rather be like strapped with assets and money like the Patriots, or just be like all in, but your roster is good, like the Bills or something like that, or the Chiefs, to be in this middle ground, which is a team that I cover is in the same place, which is why I know it's stupid.

Like, stop.

It's okay.

You had a good run.

2017, I'd say to 2020, the Steelers had some, or excuse me, the Saints had some of the best rosters in the league.

They got very unfortunate in a couple playoff games, including Minnesota Miracle and some others, and the PI game with the Rams.

Like, you had your shot.

Your rosters were very good then.

They are not now.

They are bad and expensive.

Please stop.

It's over.

It reminds me of

the Save by the Bell episode when Jesse is hooked on caffeine.

Oh, totally.

I was going to say the same thing.

Wait, were you?

That's weird.

No.

Sessler.

Sessler, Mark.

He got his sack back.

Go by the bell parallel.

Yeah, I want to hear it.

But this is, you're the guy who's sending the Dana Carvey memes all day.

I could use a dated reference if you can.

When she's hooked on caffeine pills and Zach has to shake her to get her to stop

and just like, it's over.

Stop.

Stop.

That's the way it is.

And I thought you mentioned the you thought the chase young move right mike like to me he's a perfect example it's like

chase like he was he was like he was cool he's like listen i'm the new jadavian clowney i'm just gonna sign one year deal for like nine million dollars every year for the next five years and i'm cool with it that's just the way it is and then the saints are like nah we'll give you we'll give you a multi-year deal like at least at least chase is like what 26 or something like that but it's just the idea that they just they need to just accept that we might be bad this year not that we will no one should accept just being bad like you tell your fan base that right you still got to sell tickets but that's a research

i don't know how many saints fans you guys know but the ones i know are pretty like avid like they live and die by the saints man and they deserve a lot better than just like perpetual mediocrity like and especially if you're the organization saints fans aren't dumb like if you tell them we got to take a step back because of how we did these contracts they will understand like it's not the hardest concept to grasp if you get that messaging from the organization and the coaching staff.

But to just keep saying, hey, man, we, we might mess around be nine and eight.

Like, come on.

That's just, that's not good.

Yeah.

What is, what is the point of that?

Like, just, your fan base doesn't want that.

Jordan, you're up.

Yeah.

Also, Mike, if you told me literally anything, literally any behavior to change in that exact tone of voice using that same like facial expression of like legitimate concern, please stop.

I would 100% change anything about my life if you did that.

So

maybe, maybe we somehow send this message over to New Orleans.

Mine is short.

I know you're shocked.

I would really love to give the Raiders this unsolicited advice.

I know they're going to be so tempted to draft a running back very, very high in this draft.

possibly Gianti, who would be absolutely stellar with Pete Carroll, who would get his like sort of Marshawn running back again and all of this.

But my unsolicited advice to the Raiders is do not do that before you rebuild out the rest of this offensive line.

You have Geno Smith now, who I think is an outstanding fit over there.

And I really think that Geno Smith will go from a very, very, very good quarterback, even as battered as he was over the last two seasons in Seattle, to a great quarterback if he just can get the help that he needs.

And I think this absolutely dismal Raiders run game cannot be fixed simply by plugging in an absolute power and dynamic running back.

I think that you have to start upfront and you have to like have that trickleback effect happen.

And that would be my advice to the Raiders this offseason.

They have a couple of young offensive linemen who they like, Jackson Powers Johnson and DJ Glaze.

They still need to figure out where exactly those guys slot into the future of that unit.

But I do think that this, if you plug in a couple of pieces, especially in the draft and then maybe pick up a veteran or two later in the summer, maybe trade for somebody, if you can do that and you're the Raiders, I think you are absolutely cooking and so much closer to being this highly competitive team that John Spytek and Pete Carroll want to be right away out of the gate.

If you just start there and you just fixate on that, and I think John Spytek and Pete Carroll both know ball to the level of that could be what they're thinking.

But before anything else, before the luxury picks, before anything else, you have to fix that line.

Thoughts.

I like that.

Breaking news.

We'll get back to that, Jordan.

Thanks.

Money Mike.

Here we go.

Former Cowboys defensive end.

Demarcus Lawrence is signing with the Seahawks per his agent David Cantor,

a personal enemy of Charlie Barfield.

There you go.

This is the same Demarcus Lawrence Mike that missed most of last season with the dreaded harlot Liz Frank injury.

33 by the start of next season, but a guy that's routinely gotten after the quarterback.

Maybe, I don't know.

Can he still play the guitar at this age?

We'll see.

Now he's in Seattle.

Yeah, I'm looking for the numbers on it.

I think his agent just let Rappaport and Schefter know.

Let me see if I can find this.

Oh, wow.

Three years, 42.

Nice.

Nice.

It's good money for him.

Oh, only 18 million guaranteed, though.

All right.

So this is a two-year deal.

Yeah, I mean, the Seahawks defense doesn't need a ton of juice in its pass rush room.

They just needed another like live body that was better than Draymond Jones, basically, who they cut in the name of cash.

Draymond Jones, another like buy or beware type of thing.

They gave him three years, $51 million.

That was the biggest deal the Seahawks have ever given an external free agent, and it did not last two years.

But anyway, the Seahawks are pretty cost-effective in their edge rush room, which a lot of teams would be jealous of because it's a cheap room, but still good.

You know, boy, Mafe is a good young pass rusher.

Jarek Hall is a good young pass rusher.

Chenna Nuosu has had some injuries.

I think he's only played like 12 games, 12 or 16 games in the last couple years, but went healthy, very good pass rusher.

And he's had like some injuries I don't think will linger, like didn't hurt his back or like his knees or not smoked or nothing like that.

So I like this move for the Seahawks.

A little pricey, probably,

but I think the reunion with his former D-line coach from Dallas, I think it would be helpful as well.

Aiden Durday is the Seahawks defensive coordinator, used to be the D-line coach with the Cowboys.

So yeah, this just came across, and yeah, I like it.

Wish his agent would have texted me that instead of of Airwood NFL Network.

Copy paste.

Yeah, no, it's everybody at the same time at the same job all saying the same thing.

Like, oh, yeah, his agents say this, whatever.

It's fine.

At least we know that it's real,

which is nice because we've got some fake news going around.

Seahawks world.

This win is legit.

And yeah, I like this move for Seattle.

I'll give you a little note on David Cantor, who like I've met at multiple events.

It's one of the few agents I know, but like we were all sitting around like a very luxury type fabric area and like there was glasses of wine and i did a karate chop and like i by mistakenly karate chopped a glass of red wine like off the table and across the room to the floor and they were just like david canter and i will not forget each other after that we do recall that moment so um were you in a bathrobe

not that time we always remember uh incidents that occur at luxury type fabric areas

sounds alien like

you know what i mean it was just a lot of like chairs that were very nice, ornate.

We're giving David Cantor and all these agents what they want, personal anecdotes about speaking of David.

Let's you guys are going to see the beat writer life in real time.

So, David tweeted the he tweeted the signing, right?

Which is fine.

That's obviously legit.

But only Rappaport and Garifolo and those guys have the terms.

Let's see in real time if I ask David for these terms

that are already attributed to him.

I like David.

I hope you get it because I like David.

I think I know him.

I think he's Gardner Minchin.

Let's see if he'll.

While Mike does that, that little test,

Jordan, so build up the interior offensive line in Las Vegas before anything else.

Build up

Geno

the entire line, Dan.

Build up the entire line.

Oh, the entire thing, yeah.

You know, Gino

didn't have a lot of offensive line help in Seattle at times, and that led to a lot of mistakes.

That makes a lot of mistakes.

Makes sense to me, Jordan.

I like it.

Yeah, I just think, too,

this was the best move they could have made after they didn't get Matthew Stafford.

And so I think once you make that move and you make it clear that you're investing in that person, in that player,

this is going to be, I just, just from my experience with just knowing John Spytek just a little bit, like, I just, I think this is going to be a priority for them.

I really do.

And I believe in what they're building over there so far.

I mean, it's kind of shocking.

I like talking about the Raiders right now.

So I'm excited for them.

It's pretty nice.

I do hope they take my advice as I am not judging.

I'm just noticing.

Wait, can I ask a question?

I think John Spytech, like the name is like suddenly.

Spytech.

He didn't want suddenly in the atmosphere, but like what, like, what do you know of him or what do you feel of him?

Yeah, he was on my show, The Play Callers, earlier this season.

And we had, so we talked a lot on that show about his philosophies, his views on football.

He was a pretty crucial person within the Bucks organization, which I think is one of the best front front offices in sports.

And they're very process-oriented.

And he was a long-time scout before that.

So he worked his way up, sort of in the trenches, doing some of the dirty work that long-time scouts do.

And he knows a lot of people, has seen a lot of football.

And, you know, he was the one who actually made the call to Tom Brady back in the day for the Bucks.

They were teammates at the University of Michigan.

So we talked,

obviously, for that show for about 45 minutes.

And then we also talked

like offline, I guess, or whatever you'd call it on the Zoom for a while.

And I just, I really appreciated how he looks at football.

I really do.

I think it was super refreshing to kind of get his perspective as somebody who's been the guy behind the guy, Jason Light over there in Tampa for such a long time to sort of like come out into the light.

Is he the guy behind the guy, though, in Las Vegas, too, with Brady there?

We're hearing Brady is really hands-on.

I don't think so.

I think that they are, I really, I think they're communicating all together, those three, Pete Carroll, Spy Tech, Tom Brady.

Obviously, Mark Davis is probably involved on like the text thread or whatever.

But like.

Hopefully a little bit less with the Mark Davis, just a little bit less,

a little bit less.

But I do think that they, I think they all like each other.

I think they all get along.

And, you know, obviously

Tom Brady wouldn't want to won a championship after that phone call.

So

that's a nice phone call to have on your ledger.

That sounded a little bit like you're going into your George Bush, your Carvey there, Mark.

No, it wasn't.

But I think she was sort of saying like a steeple.

We're going to be coming together.

We got all three of them together.

We got Spy Tech.

We got Brady.

We got Pete Carroll.

Wonderful people.

White hair.

Some of them.

Very nice.

Eight o'clock to light.

Gravy.

Oh, my God.

All right.

What else has happened?

The Browns signed defensive tackle Malik Collins.

Two years, 20 million.

And they also signed Edge Joe Trion Shoyenka.

Browns beefing up the defensive front.

The Broncos signed tight end Evan Ingram while we were live.

Two years $23 million.

The Cardinals have signed Jacoby Brissette to back up Kyler Murray.

They also signed Zay Jones.

Like it.

Bills' moves.

You mentioned a bunch of other moves.

Justin, I'm going to say like it or don't like it after everything you say here, and it won't be annoying at all.

Yeah, I'll pause then so that you have time to do that.

The other Bills moves you referenced.

They signed Leonard Floyd to a one-year deal.

Oh, yeah.

Like it.

They signed cornerback Mike Hughes to a three-year deal.

Cool.

And re-signed.

Sorry, Justin.

Yeah.

Was it Leonard with the Falcons?

Ooh.

You're right.

Oh, Justin.

Justin.

Reset the clock.

30 minutes.

No, go ahead.

Let's go faster, Justin.

Must go faster.

Jordan, the Falcons signed Leonard Floyd.

The Bills re-signed Mike Hughes.

Also signed Mike Ford.

Too many mics in the cornerback room.

Sorry, Mike.

And Lions re-signed Levi Wunzarike.

Cool.

The Commanders signed Marcus Mariota back for another year.

And Ravens offensive tackle Michael Pierce announces his retirement.

Ego.

Happy Trails.

Nailed the music on that one.

You did nail it.

You're the man.

Hey, shout out to everyone in the live chat.

Well over every show, 500, 600, 700 people just enjoying the football.

Graver bodied by J-Dog, Troy Meeker says.

In a big spot.

Not on trip.

That was.

You put him in a body bag.

You sent him to the morgue.

We helped the outro.

He hit the transition with the music.

Nicely done, Justin.

Awesome.

True.

So thank you, everybody.

All of those moves were Falcons, and I said Bills.

So thank you, Angriest.

Wow.

All right.

Well, there's always tomorrow, Justin.

One more live stream tomorrow, Thursday.

We're going to have some guests.

We're going to talk a little bit of Vikings football and where they're at and what their game plan plan is.

We might have a special guest that is very passionate about the Pittsburgh Steelers, talking about the uncertain nature of their operation these days.

And we're going to have fun doing it.

Mike and Jordan, as always, thank you so much.

I absolutely adore you.

Couldn't do it without you.

As an update, no text back, by the way.

Dang.

Oh, see, that's how this works.

It's like you spilled red wine all over his nicest

fabric.

It's already chopped it.

Luxury fabric.

Luxury fabric.

That's the life, unfortunately.

Man, it's like he's peeing all over your luxury-type fabric area.

That ain't right.

Jordan, Mike, any plugs to get in?

Yeah, I have one.

Go ahead, Mike.

We'll have, sorry,

we're recording a new Seahawks man-to-man podcast tonight.

Bang.

Going over all the Seahawks-related free agency moves.

That'll drop Thursday morning wherever you get your podcasts.

Very nice.

J-Rod?

Good show.

Oh, sorry, J-Rod.

Your plug has been

exempted by Justin Graver popping in.

That is messed up, Justin.

But a way to get even.

I get it.

Cowboys just traded for linebacker Kenneth Murray from the Titans.

There, we got everything in one show.

We don't have to hop back on and do an emergency Kenneth Murray pod.

How about that, Dan?

All right.

This is a psychotic with a spinning Titan's helmet behind him.

A psychotic man is producing our show.

By the way, why is the trophy that's Jordan still sitting on your shelf?

Shouldn't it that be in the mail like two weeks ago?

Should be.

I don't have any place to send it yet.

Still

waiting.

Should I put it on?

Oh, you're putting it on Jordan?

You're saying maybe I should have.

I don't know.

I never did that.

It's been a pretty good thing.

You know, we had, Mark, we had a producer who once stole an award that we won.

Yes, she did.

She did the same thing where she was like, Well, I didn't know where to send it, so I just sent it to my house.

And we never saw our Stitcher award.

And here it is happening again.

The history, how it repeats itself.

Another producer being like, How would I ever get this giant trophy out of my house and into the person who it belongs to's house?

Yeah, that last one was just like, I like horses and bonds.

It's like, well, that's not that different than our current producer.

So, sure.

If I had the ability to pass this to Jordan through the screen, it would happen happen right now.

You're shameless, dude.

I clocked this a couple weeks ago and was waiting for someone to notice it.

Yeah.

Like, what is up with that?

It's almost passive-aggressive towards Jordan.

Like, she could see it every time she's on the show, knowing that it's her.

Yep.

You know what it's like?

The equivalent.

I hate it.

I hate it.

I hate it.

Like, the worst thing about running fantasy leagues, it's why one of the reasons I don't do it anymore is collecting money and having to collect money from your friends when they're like, you know, overdue and all that.

Like, I hate making that text, even though it's not my fault.

I'm not doing anything wrong.

They're in the wrong.

You're putting Jordan in the spot where she has to ask about the trophy.

That's what's happening here.

Well, it's inhumane.

It's inhumane.

Yeah.

You're doing a lot of speaking for me, for somebody who has just recently been on the cover of Feminist Weekly.

I know Justin to be an earnest and kind individual.

I've moved up.

I've moved up, Jordan.

I'm not human of the week.

So I vacated the family.

So you're discarding.

You're leaving the women behind.

I get it.

For me, it's about everyone now.

Once again.

We see that nobility.

I think we understand that nobility.

I'm leaving this up so everyone has time to read all the cover line stories that are included in this issue.

How did you Photoshop that that fast?

Wow, that's incredible.

It's the time you save by not shipping you your trophy.

Jordan, I just want to apologize.

I

don't mean to speak for you, and you're a woman who could obviously speak for herself,

as all women can and deserve to.

All right, I'm back in the good graces.

Both sexes, baby.

The future is female.

All right, anything else?

No, I have no plugs.

Follow Jordan and Mike, of course, on the athletic, where they are at the top of the game in what they do.

And we'll see everyone else tomorrow.

Until

then, do what you must.

Heed the call.

Bye.

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I'm also the NFL's leading husher.

Hush up back there.

Wow.

I might have just set the hushing record.

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