NFL Week 2 Power Rankings + Vikings-Bears MNF Recap

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Dan Hanzus & Marc Sessler are back to recap the final game of Week 1 with the electric game between the Minnesota Vikings and Chicago Bears. Then, we run through some NFL headlines to catch up on the latest news before finishing with our Week 2 NFL Power Rankings!

0:00 Vikings at Bears MNF Recap

17:32 NFL News Catch-Up

26:29 49ers injuries

29:58 Russell Wilson to remain starting QB

32:08 Mike McDaniel Monday comments

39:46 NFL Injury News

46:53 Week 2 Power Rankings

58:21 Wrap Up

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JJ, this is game one of what will hopefully be a very long career for you.

But what do you think you will remember most about this night?

Getting the wind.

That's what I remember most.

You know, just being here in the hometown.

You know, it's a dream come true.

And, you know, it's all the kids out there.

It's possible.

And, you know, I just love my guys and can't wait to go to war next week.

Oh, he cannot wait to go to war next week because you know what?

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J.J.

McCarthy improves to 64-3 as a starter since his high school days as the Minnesota Vikings in the debut for the former first-round pick pull off a fairly stunning comeback at Soldier Field, breaking the hearts of all those Bears fans.

We'll get into that.

27-24 the final.

Minnesota puts up 21 points in the fourth quarter to steal this one

from Chicago, a game in which, as good as McCarthy looked in the second half, he was every bit as lost in the first half.

But you know what?

Teams that are well-coached can make adjustments, and young players with winning pedigrees sometimes find a way to win.

Dan Hans is here with Mark Sessler.

Justin Graver on the ones and twos.

Mark,

I saw some text during the game about

you falling in love with another man.

Was it McCarthy?

Okay.

I believe it was.

I wanted to ask you live on the air.

Yes.

Congratulations.

Yeah, thank you.

And congratulations to him that my feelings feel this way.

We have to get this word to him that there's a football podcast

in his earliest 50s that is hot on your trail.

It doesn't happen that much to me.

You know, it's like a lot of this just feels like it's just waves of new players left and right.

I am trying to remember a game

where someone, or you could point to last night, I guess, if you want, but these are experienced quarterbacks in this issue, where like someone felt so asleep at the wheel, the whole offense did.

And, you know, when you were a kid and you'd go play soccer and then like a mom would bring oranges and you'd get orange

slices at halftime, right?

It might rejuvenate you.

I don't don't know what happened at halftime here, but the J.J.

McCarthy and the Kevin O'Connell experience completely changed in the second half.

Because I was like, we've got problems here.

And we were working on some projects.

And I was moving the Vikings up and down my power rankings, thinking we've got real issues here in the NFC North.

And then

the second half occurs,

and all my feelings change.

And I am easily won over by certain things.

And I pulled this, I will show this, I pulled this little book off my bookshelf by Kate Chopin, The Awakening.

Not about football.

It's about moms from

Middle Britain from a long time ago.

But The Awakening, like, that's what I saw tonight.

Someone who just

had an awakening this quickly into an NFL career.

We don't know what will go, where it will go, but like the second half was beautiful and brilliant.

And I can understand

why he was spoken so highly about.

Well, once, you know, most of the second half, because it's with 12.51 in the third quarter when McCarthy drops back and tries to throw a little out that's picked off by

Nishawn Wright and taken back 74 yards to the house.

It makes it 17 to 6 at that point.

Right, not that.

Yeah, but everything from that point on, obviously the Vikings score 21 unanswered after that, and the Bears score a late touchdown to actually make this look like a close game again.

But the Vikings had taken complete control of this game by about four minutes to go in the game.

Yeah, I, you know, the reason why I was higher and continue to be higher on the Vikings, although people are probably going to catch up now, than other people this summer is because I knew that Kevin O'Connell is one of the best offensive coaches in the league, maybe one of the best coaches in the league.

And if he was so high on this young quarterback, how could the season

go that poorly?

And you look at where the Oddsmakers had the Vikings, they had them taking a huge dip this year, and maybe they will.

Again, week one lies.

She's a harlot.

Can't trust her.

Where's my wallet?

Where's my watch?

It was on the nightstand.

Now it's gone and so is she.

But at the same time, like this, a player showing that level of moxie when the walls are closing in, it reminded me so much.

And I tweeted about this and there were some Vikings fans that were pissy with me, but I wasn't meaning it.

I wasn't trolling.

I was watching a primetime game in which a young, highly drafted quarterback was playing on a national stage, and it looked like the lights were too bright, and the game was moving 150 miles per hour on him, and the walls were closing in, and Troy Aikman

sounds like a disappointed dad talking about him.

I'm like, this feels like even some of the like the wild drop backs to try to evade pressure and just throwing the ball for grabs and taking vicious shots and all these things that J.J.

McCarthy was dealing with in this game.

It felt like I was watching Zach Wilson.

It felt like I was watching Sam Darnold seeing Ghosts.

I felt like it was Geno Smith being not allowed to throw on Monday night football.

It felt like Mark Sanchez in the dark times.

It felt like a young quarterback who was overwhelmed by the moment, and that was going to be the storyline of the game.

So it really did show me something

for him to crawl out of that.

But McCarthy, like, and you look at his stats, for instance, I mean, listen, he threw for 143 yards.

So even with a strong second half, it's not like he had this amazing game.

You got to give credit to the whole team.

You got to give credit to the coaching staff for the adjustments.

And you got to give credit to Brian Flores and that Minnesota defense because as soon as the Chicago Bears, and this is what would be

really frustrate me as a Bears fan, who Bears fans are dying right now, what would really kill me is that Ben Johnson had his 15-play game script coming out of the tunnel to start this game.

And Chicago looked like the Detroit Lions.

And they went right down the field and stuck it down the throat of the Vikings, scored a touchdown.

And as soon as they

no longer had that script in front of them, they had to live in the moment.

The offense completely cratered.

And Brian Flores, with his aggressive style of defense, like this guy knows exactly what he's doing, and he shut down the Bears as a result.

Well, and we, you know, we spent parts of last season, too, talking about the Vikings as a team that's organized in such an interesting and smart 2025 fashion.

We're like, your head coach is tied at the hip to the quarterback, and we can see the results of that already.

And your defensive coordinator almost runs a completely different ecosystem.

It's not that you want those two sides not to be friends.

They are, but it's like we've got almost two teams here in a way where it's like Brian Flores should be a head coach.

He should be a head coach.

The Vikings are lucky that he's just their defensive coordinator and creating utter chaos for tonight, another young quarterback.

And I thought Jordan, Rodrigue, our friend, had an incredible comment.

She tweeted this out.

She said, the thing I love about this Vikings defense is how it can be so immediate, all out pressure right away, or it can be like a slowly suffocating wave.

Very Jordan-esque, and I love that about her, but it's like she's super died in on,

her and Flores, I feel like, would be great friends.

And it's like,

that's what you get with the Vikings.

And it seemed like all of that was lost for 30 minutes, right?

Like all of this had floated away, and then it came back back to us.

Yeah, there was a crazy stat.

I don't know if, Gravey, if you know

what it was.

They had the Bears had something like seven, three an outs in a row at one point in this game, in the middle of this game, before they went on that last drive to get it to 24 points.

It was just the defense disappeared.

And what was shocking about it, and I tweeted this also at the end of the game, and it's not,

I don't, again, as someone who's who supports a team that is eternally down in the dumps, like Bears fans, you know, they thought, and

still, a lot can happen.

It's a long year, but you come into this week one game, it's just feeling so confident and feeling like you finally have, you have the right quarterback, you have the right roster, you have the right play caller and coach all in one.

And what makes this Bears fan misery different than the others, other teams, is the manner in which this team uses misdirection almost to maximize your hope, and then they pull the rug out or they pull the ball away, loosey style.

And what I mean by that is that building was going nuts.

They go right down the field, and like I said, they look like the Detroit Lions with Ben Johnson, and then they have the pick six, and the roof is blown off the place, and the Vikings are completely in a blender.

And for that game to just completely flip, and by the end of the game, after the last fateful,

they tried the doomed lateral play, and of course

it was useless, and the game ends.

There are 75,000 Bears fans booing at the top of their lungs their team off the field.

It was such a turn of events.

Here's Ben Johnson, his opening remarks at his press conference after the game.

You want to talk about guys that are probably feeling like they got hit by a truck.

Obviously, a disappointing way to start the season there for us.

You know, we just

have a 17-6 lead and then see it go the way it did there in the fourth quarter.

You know, we said going into week one that the team that would make the least number of mistakes would win the game.

And unfortunately, we were on the wrong side of that.

We made too many there late in the game,

myself included.

I want to just make a correction here.

I just want to - this is what the Bears' offense looked like in this game.

First possession, 10 plays, 61 yards, touchdown.

5 plays 17 yards punt.

5 plays 37 yards

turnover on downs.

Bad pass by Caleb Williams.

3 plays 2 yards punt.

9 plays 35 yards field goal.

Then

after the first half ended into the second half, 3 and out.

5 plays 23 yards punt.

11 plays, 44 yards missed field goal.

3 plays negative 9 yards punt.

5 plays, eight yards, punt.

Five plays, 65 yards touchdown.

That was the final score when the game was already pretty much decided.

So

the offense created, I thought Caleb Williams mark missed a lot of throws in this game.

And this is, again, to the stomach punch nature of Bears fandom.

He couldn't have looked better.

He was 10 for 10 at one point in this game, playing with all the confidence in the world.

And by the third and fourth quarter, he looked just like the guy that was lost at times with terrible coaching last year in Chicago.

So, I mean, the turn of events and the change in fortune of the Bears, it was dizzying this evening.

Well, it's well said because

he opens 10 for 10.

And I don't really recall a Bears

throng of fans, a crowd that were as loud and raucous as what we heard tonight.

I mean, that can always just be the way that the microphones are faced too.

But like

it felt like

that stadium was

that was that was supposed to be a party and it was and it was like a party and then someone pulls the fire alarm and the and the whole thing gets shut down.

That's what that's what it felt like.

It was a party that got into it.

It was a party where suddenly like

throws up on the floor and we've got everyone, the whole tenor changes.

It's

the thing about the Bears is I'm not or a guy.

A guy can do it too, but like I like I'm not freaking out about the Bears because like this is a process and I think Kayla Williams started to look in terms of the accuracy and some wild throws and just feeling a little chaotic.

Like,

there is evidence that the coaching staff has him playing differently.

Like, early on, it looked good, but how do you, how is, how does that become the entire game?

Like, I don't think Bears fans should freak out.

I think, to your point, though, this just was a house that suddenly had a bomb dropped on it like at two in the morning when we thought that we were going to sleep well.

And, like,

it

two nights in a row, we've seen sort of stunning um turns of events where everything we want to say about the game completely changes but i like i think kale williams is just a project and that you've hired this coach to work through it and it's not a one-night thing it's not a one-night thing because we're seeing evidence of the same stuff from a year ago it's disappointing and concerning but it is just like we need to be patient right Right.

And that will be the messaging around the Bears and what they're going to try to put out there to the public, obviously, after this game.

It's just disheartening.

It was just the nature of the loss.

It was, you know, if they would have looked, you know, if they would have been kind of meh from the start and kind of stumbled their way through things, and to your point, if Caleb Williams seemed like a guy who's still finding his way in this new offense that he's learning, that's one thing.

But the fact that they came out, you know, gangbusters the way they did and then it turned and curdled.

If you're a fan of a bad team, and I know you are, Mark, as am I, like, there is a sense of fatalism.

And then, but when these things, these type of nights happen, and not to dwell on it any longer, it almost feels sometimes like you're just like, why can't we just be like everybody else?

Like, how come we can't have our Jaden Daniels moment now where everything clicks and we have this great night, right?

So the Bears have to wait.

There could be great nights and great Sundays ahead of them this season, but this one did not go the way they wanted.

Any other thoughts on this game, Mark?

Well, just that I kind of, along with not just J.J.

McCarthy

kind of growing up quickly, like, I mean, and we'll see.

Again, it's one week.

You're right.

But like, I thought the offensive line helped him a lot better in this game.

And when you support him with Jordan Mason

in a ground game, because there was a point in this game where I was like, is Justin Jefferson going to be complaining to the press in three weeks that this looks like it did over the first 30 minutes?

And then it all changed.

So it's like, I kind of think we've got a top three coach.

We'll see who the quarterback is.

You've got the best receiver in the league, arguably.

And if you get the O-line in the ground game, like this division is the juiciest division in football.

And we've seen that supported by two games over the last two days, where it's like, there's no division like this.

And the Vikings are back in the mix.

We're 30 minutes into this game, I thought they might need a year to regrow what they think they are.

And now I feel differently.

So I like games that change

the way I feel over the course of the game, just in one game.

And that's, this is two nights in a row with the Ravens

with the Bills and this, right?

That's just to temper it a little bit.

They had one good quarter.

It was a great quarter.

I know, but I do, but I went, I was, I was feeling like, oh my God, Vikings fans have to be peeing their pants right now.

And then by the end, it's like, I don't know what we have.

It's kind of exciting.

Right.

And

from by the same count, the Bears had three very good quarters and one miserable quarter.

So, yeah, let's kind of put a hold on both of these teams with good things to take out of it and then some troubling things.

Like, for instance, we can't have 12 penalties for 127 yards,

Ben Johnson.

So,

he's going to have a lot of work to do.

And they're going to wash this one out of their mouth because they get the Detroit Lions at Ford Field next week.

So, you know, these

the way the schedule is set up, I say this all the time, but the games that you're, quote, supposed to win, and at home on Monday night in this environment, the idea was that the Bears would start their season off well and beat a Vikings team that's feeling their way out with JJ McCarthy.

And you saw in the pick six, for instance, and good job overall from Dennis Allen and his debut as the DC in Chicago.

But like the putting,

dialing up that blitz and leading to the pick six, like you're supposed to beat a Vikings team that's supposed to take some time to figure things out.

Now that you haven't, now you're staring at a Detroit Lions team that is going to be very pissed off after what happened to them at Lambeau Field in week one.

And on the other side, the Vikings get the Falcons at home.

So, you know, they steal one, and now they have a chance to get out to a 2-0 start.

So, big stuff.

All right, let's take a quick break.

And when we get back, we're going to do a couple things.

We're going to get caught up in all the news around the league after Sunday's action.

And we're going to do our first check-in on the power rankings in the regular season.

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All right.

We are back, Mark.

How you doing, buddy?

You got Levi on tonight.

I love that.

Monday Night Levi, always the best type of Levi.

I do.

It's an evening, an evening in Hollywood.

It's the room, this is a room that is facing a large window.

So when the evening chills,

I need to protect my skin and my exoskeleton with a different, with an ex when with an extra layer of clothing.

That's definitely something an alien would say when he's asked about wearing a jacket.

I mean, I'm just like, again, sometimes there are these little tells, Mark.

Must protect epidermis.

That's why I wear extra layering.

Well, it's true.

I'm just...

Ha ha, ha ha.

Trying to be truthful with you in the audience.

Yes, anything else from the game that jumped out to you?

The telephone, perhaps?

I don't know if you checked out manicans or anything.

Yeah, because you know what you're trying to, you're bouncing in between.

I like to bounce between.

I love Troy Aikman, man.

He's my dude.

But I'll bounce over to the Manning cast a little bit because I think that they,

it's a whole different vibe, obviously.

We get that.

But

I went over there at some point and got caught into a convo about,

you know, the Pope, Pope Leo, I believe, like Pope Leo XIV.

I don't know how to do it.

Yeah, he's a Chicagan.

Chicago?

Yeah, so he's a big Bears fan, so like Megan Pope.

They aim to get him on the show.

I think we've got some tape here, but

both Peyton and Eli attempted to get him on the show.

Let's see what happened here.

Eli Manning literally texted the Pope.

Wait, Eli has the Pope's number?

I don't know how.

Well,

I don't know who he's.

Wait, the Pope left Eli on red?

Yes, so Eli tried to get the

hell there.

He left Eli Manning on red.

Look at it.

That is awesome.

Right.

It happens to us all.

Yeah, not to go down theology podcast road, but I'm cool mostly with the Pope.

I was raised, you know, Catholic and

I'm cool overall of the Pope being American.

I kind of like my Pope a little distant with a...

like a Dracula accent.

Like if I had my choice, if you gave me a choice, gave me a degree from another, you know, some distant European nation.

But we're cool.

Let's mix things up.

It's the 2020s, man.

But I don't want the Pope to respond to Eli Manning's texts.

Like, I need the Pope to keep some of his splendor and mystery.

And

I almost don't like that the Pope got that text and he looked at his phone because now we know that he's

busy doing things.

Why does the Pope have a phone?

You know what I mean?

He's the Pope.

Doesn't he have powers?

Isn't that that the whole thing with the Pope?

I'd agree.

Like, why would you need a phone?

Doesn't the Pope have a phone

to God?

Right.

Is that the whole thing?

Sure, like two cups with a wire between them.

I mean, I would say one thing, like, if you're Eli, and Eli, it seems to me, like,

a very amiable fellow.

If you text the Pope and he doesn't text you back, where does that leave you spiritually or or just as a person i would kind of that would be on my mind personally like i'm texting a spiritual powerhouse and he's like i don't need you

what was it what was it that um joan osborne once said

what if god was one of us just a stranger on the bus trying to make his way home

This pope feels closer to being that than other popes to your point about he's he's just simply from Chicago.

It's like probably the order of the world.

Jesus

like one of us.

Crazy.

All right.

Anyway, I hope the Pope doesn't respond.

And that's, and Eli is a good guy, but don't respond, Pope.

Keep some in the mystery, okay?

And development.

I mean, he beat your

accent.

He beat your hated Patriots twice.

Why don't we get, you don't want Eli to hear from a spiritual

I agree the Pope did do that.

Yes, God interfered and made sure the Patriots had some of the most crushing Super Bowl losses of all time.

And

that has kept me spiritual all these years.

All right.

Let's see.

Let's do some news.

Our team didn't quit.

I mean, I think there's people that left the stadium.

That's okay.

We'll be fine, but have some faith next time.

Did you do it again, Justin?

I mean, you look like you got like spindly fingers.

You know, you're athletic.

You got big saussage fingers over there.

Okay, the buttons are like this big each, so it has nothing to do with the size of my fingers.

It has everything to do with the fact that I am currently building our power rankings graphics so that when we get to the multitask part of the show they're there and i uh yeah how does that explain the other incidents we've had in recent months were you building power rankings boards at that time as well there was something that could explain it i don't know

By the way, I know you mentioned, Mark, that Troy Aikman's your guy.

I know you love Troy.

I love Troy Troy too.

You love Troy.

Do you drink his MAGA beer he has?

I've never had his beer.

He sells that I love America beer.

I've never had his beer, and I'm not, I've moved away from that.

Fits in with certain elements of your branding.

That's all.

I was wondering if.

It does not.

Well, Justin's probably pressing the wrong sound bite before because you were setting up that whole thing.

Yeah, he had his finger on that one.

I don't think he's MAGA, by the way.

Who, Troy?

I'm pretty sure.

I don't know, but I don't.

Okay.

I mean, let's.

All right.

Let's.

I mean, he lives like 12 minutes from Justin, so what are we leaving?

I think people would be stunned by.

And I'm not here casting judgments on anyone, okay?

It's a crazy time in this country.

I'm just saying, I think it would be stunning for some people to realize how many professional athletes are in the Red Camp.

And I think Troy is a native, was he, Texan, Oklahoman, whatever he is.

He was like next door neighbors with like Pat Sommerall back in the day, I believe, on a huge.

I drove by his house one time

when I was in Dallas.

I'll leave it there.

I don't need to go deeper into that story, but like

does it have something to do with the JFK assassination?

I did go to the book depository, but I was visiting family.

But they, my, I was taken there because it was like, apparently, this is important to this person.

So,

what?

Yes, Majesta.

A headline in Athlon Sports: Troy Aikman hasn't been shy about where he stands politically.

Quote: While those comments have inspired football fans to theorize that the former Dallas Cowboys quarterback is a Democrat, records show that Aikman has donated more than $40,000 to Republican causes since 1999.

World Tanya Nancy.

Not necessarily MAGA, but

right-leaning.

He's got that American.

Let's get into the news.

That was Josh Allen, by the way.

Bills fans in the drop all those hours ago.

Don't leave the building when your quarterback is Josh Allen.

I mean, how we need to.

And also, Bills fans, you showed up at that dump up there, that stadium that they're tearing down.

You got there at like seven in the morning, eight in the morning.

At that point, just ride it out to the final gun.

That's an important lesson, Mark, to fans of a truly special player like a Josh Allen.

It is.

I knew a father and two sons where I grew up, and I had a lot of respect for them.

He was a highly prized businessman, but at a function at their house, I learned as an adult, a young adult, that they had left the Mets Red Sox game, you know, the 86 Game 6

showdown

early because they thought, let's just be traffic.

And I'm like,

I still care about the three of you, but I will never see you the same way ever again.

It changes, yeah.

Unless we forget, he'll try to make you forget it, and he'll use the power of prayer himself because he's a religious man.

But Mark Wahlberg left 28-3 early,

you know, Mr.

New England himself.

So we don't do if your quarterback, if your team's favorite, if your favorite team's quarterback is a Tom Brady or a Josh Allen or insert future Hall of Famer here, hold tight.

Anything could happen.

Anything could happen to the San Francisco 49ers,

but not winning a Super Bowl if they keep on suffering injuries to their most important players.

Now, usually these injury bug, you know, if you get killed one year, these things have a way of evening out and the regression comes in a positive way.

And maybe you don't have as a tough a season on that front.

But coming out of Seattle's hard-fought 17-13 win over the Seahawks, they are dealing with two major injuries right now for the the team.

George Kittle, the star tight end, he left that game with a hamstring injury.

And it sounds like a significant one because the idea is that he will be sitting out, according to Kyle Shanahan, quote, a few weeks because of the right hammy issue.

And he missed most of that game.

He scored a touchdown and then set out most of the game.

So, you know, he has a chance to be out until October, it sounds like, which is, you know, obviously not good news at all, especially given the state of the receiving core there right now.

Meanwhile, Brock Purdy, the starting quarterback, like I said, it was a very physical game.

A lot of guys probably came out of that game banged up, and Purdy was one of them.

He has two injuries: a left shoulder and a toe injury.

The toe, according to Shanahan, who, by the way, that white beard is going to be grown in real quick this season at this rate.

The idea is that the toe injury is more serious than the shoulder injury,

and it's unclear if Purdy will be available on Sunday in New Orleans.

Shanahan said we've got to see how it heals

and how the week goes on it.

So that is

tough news for the Niners.

Kendrick Bourne signed a one-year deal with the team, up to $5 million

to add some depth to that wide receiver room, which is Ricky Pierceall and a whole lot of not much else, Mark, currently.

Well, I can't really think of a team that I feel like every time we do a show, the Niners have signed a cast off wide receiver from a different team.

They feel thin, and we're right back where we started from with George Kittle out three to five weeks.

That feels repetitive and redundant to other years.

And my only with Brock Purdy, and I, like, I am pro Purdy, but, and he's a thick guy.

He's kind of got like a Russell Wilson thickness to him, but like, um...

Not a big warrior, not the biggest in stature.

Like, you kind of wonder about the durability because we've had multiple injuries to both of these players.

And then the Niners simply don't keep up with other teams because Shanahan's seasons that go off the rails are always injury related.

So it's something to keep an eye on, of course.

But it just tells us that the season's starting, that like the

tear down factor for so many of these squads begins now.

Juwan Jennings, by the way, wide receiver, injured his left shoulder in the game.

The Niners are awaiting the results of a CT scan on that.

Although Shanahan said an MRI looked, looked, quote, good, but they're not sure about his status.

Also, left guard Ben Barge is day-to-day, he has a mild knee sprain.

So just a walking mass unit coming out of that week one win over the Seahawks and Elite 2019.

San Francisco hospitals are overcrowded right now.

They're just overcrowded.

Yes, just 49ers in full uniforms everywhere.

I like to imagine these guys never change.

They're just walking around cleats, clacking down hallways, you know.

Correct.

Anyway, Giants sticking with Russell Wilson as their quarterback one for now.

Brian Dable confirmed on Monday that Wilson will continue to be the starter following questions from the media in the aftermath of a

unimpressive call at that 21-6 loss to the commanders.

Here's Dable

from

Giants headquarters.

Again, like I said yesterday, that game just doesn't fall fall on Russell Wilson.

You got to do a better job collectively coaching playing.

But Russ will be the starter.

Oh, was that even ever really a decision for you?

Well, again, it's right at the end of the game, so I'm not going to say that.

I mean, when you went back and watched it, no, no, Russ will be the starter.

He will.

Now the question is, how long will he be the starter?

I would imagine if he fails against the Cowboys the way he failed against the Commanders, it's going to be a different story.

In fact, I think the real thing, the stat that really jumped out to me, Mark, with Wilson

was how poor he was under pressure.

Two for 12 for 26 yards, took two sacks, two scrambles.

It's a team that had 231 yards of total offense.

But Wilson's special set during his heyday was his ability to evade pressure and create plays, and he just can't do that anymore.

He's just not the same player.

And

Giants fans are going to be increasingly frustrated if he remains the starter, I imagine.

I'm missing Andrew Thomas, the Starlove Talk.

I want to see the line at its full strength.

I love these reporters in New York that feel compelled because it's two days in a row where Brian Dable is getting the aggressive follow-up question to anything he says about Russell Wilson.

But

aren't we just weeks away from this switching?

It feels like we're just going to be able to do it.

That's what I just said.

I think he's out.

I think he might even be out in the second half against the Cowboys.

I think it's one of the things.

And let's see how it plays out.

All right.

In other news, you know, the walls are closing in on Mike McDaniel one week into a season.

A total no-show effort in a blowout loss to the Colts.

On Sunday,

here is Mike McDaniel, who's caught a lot of criticism, both for the team's lack of preparation and his own lack of fire in his post-game comments, at least from Jason Garrett?

Again, when Jason Garrett is coming after you for not having any type of riz and juice, that's a bad sign.

Here is McDaniel a day after the ugly loss.

What were some of the good things that you saw happen either individually or by unit yesterday?

I think, I think,

to be honest, like there's

think the positive is that

that was a miserable experience.

It was embarrassing, flat out.

And

in that, there's nowhere to hide.

It's almost, you know,

within the game,

you know,

it's almost good that there's...

that it wasn't reachable, that there were...

we were minus four because there's you know um as as a team we have to you know,

I was really looking forward to

seeing the stuff that we've really worked on diligently, and I didn't see any of it, and that's a problem.

So

all right.

I feel for McDaniel.

And, you know, it makes me think, Mark, that because he knows what's happening here.

We, the same reason we like McDaniel is that he's a little bit of an outsider.

He's not cut from the same cloth as so many coaches that traditionally prowl the sidelines, the former players, the guys with the raging id and the hyper masculinity and all that stuff.

Like McDaniel is just a different dude.

And the very things that he was celebrated for during his early time with the tenure, you could kind of already feel it now being used against him.

And it's really kind of predictable and kind of disappointing because the way that football can be, which is kind of this boys' club, and McDaniel even getting this job and speaking the way he does and approaching life the way he does, I think has always led to a certain segment of the football world looking at him with one eyebrow arched.

Here's an example.

Here's Rex Ryan.

This is the son of a coaching legend, Buddy Ryan.

Here's somebody who played, who's coached at many levels.

And he's probably exactly the type of personality.

And Mark, you got to know Rex a little bit.

I'm not saying this is not an attack on Rex, but Rex is exactly the type of guy you would think would maybe turn this into a turkey shoot when things are going down badly for McDaniel.

And sure enough, on one of ESPN's dopey morning shows, that's exactly what happened.

What the hell is he talking about?

You know, maybe he's on a different level, McGenius guy, whatever the hell he is, nerd boy.

But anyway,

their team has no respect for the coach.

Can I just...

I think that's a drop, Justin.

You know what?

Like, Rex Ryan, I will say one thing.

Because, yes, let's know on that.

That European trip,

he has one of the better senses of humor that you'll ever meet.

Like, he and I went to a German beer garden together, and like, I would just say that we've got some connective tissue on things that we enjoy.

But

I get, I kind of, like, I get why this is happening.

It's just exactly what you said, because

Nick Daniel is a think different type of guy, right?

And it's like, it was a new, it was kind of like the crescendo of NFL becoming analytical and different.

And it's not just like a bunch of bros.

Like, we go to the combine combine and see a bunch of like coaches from the same team sitting around talking.

And they all look the same.

We understand where they sat in the lunchroom back in high school and middle school.

But McDaniel comes from a completely different place.

But when it doesn't work, or when it starts to not work, I think it's not only the other coaches and the Rex Ryans of the world and people in general.

It's your own players.

Like there's something going on with the Dolphins that we feel, right?

Energy-wise, like they're not, I don't want to say not tough because because that's just simply not true.

But there's a part of the year when they seem to collapse, crumble, and they don't seem as physical.

And then it's like we're pointing to a coach who looks a little bit like a math student, and he doesn't help himself sometimes with his wandering comments.

I enjoy them, but it's like it's not Mike, it's not Mike Rabel.

It's the opposite of like a Mike Rabel.

And so it's like

he has to go on that journey to overturn all that.

And when success stops and players stop playing the way they should, and you get your ass kicked by the Colts, a team we also didn't believe in, it can get dark really quick.

And for the record, McDaniel did play, he played college ball, right?

He was a wide receiver.

Is that correct, Justin, once upon a time?

It's not like this.

He does have a

right.

But yes, he comes from a different angle.

And

it kind of has that whiff to me of

Rex as like a bully on the campus, you know, getting his shots in on a

when he's down.

And Rex should know better because Rex has been down in the dumps too with two different teams and got fired twice.

But it's not fun.

Anyway, yes, Justin.

Mike McDaniel played wide receiver for Yale.

Nerd boy.

All right, nerd boy.

See, now Justin's jumping.

Justin's just jumping right on the train now.

Facetious, facetious comment.

We are a pro-Mike McDaniel podcast.

That is

on the record at the Combine, tried to ask him how he would use his wide receivers, and he told me, Oh, I'm not talking about that right now.

And I was like, you know what?

This was before he started.

This is when he, right when he took over, I was like, you know what, Mike?

You're awesome.

We're all rooting for you.

And he goes, let's go.

And then walked away.

Well, Dan and I met him too.

And I was amazing.

Like a literally delightful person to talk to.

So I'm

aware of that.

Where did you ask Mike McDaniel how he was?

It wasn't like at Prime 47 or something, was it?

No, it was somewhere in Indy.

I don't remember.

Was it just like in the street?

You stopped him at like the

Shake Shack or whatever.

Shared him was in a hotel.

I think it or it was at the convention center.

I don't know now.

I'm saying, because like if you stopped

a thrilling and detail-rich story.

Yes, Justin, that was many bottom rips ago.

I had just taken over as the producer of the NFL Fantasy Football Podcast.

I was trying to get some intel.

Right.

But my question is: if you asked him within the confines of a media engagement, it's a perfectly fine thing.

If you got him

at the Starbucks in the hotel where Ian Rapperport squared off with what's his name,

to ask about, hey, how are you going to use your wide receivers, he's not going to give you the answer you're looking for when he's a civilian, essentially.

You know what I mean?

I do.

And I learned that.

And that was like within my first few months of being an NFL media employee.

And I grew up in that experience.

But you know what?

But it was coming from a good place.

And it always is with

Justin Graeber.

All right, let's move on.

Xavier Worthy, he got banged up in the Thursday night, Friday night opener in

San Paulo.

Andy Reid says, I know

we have.

Here's Andy Reid on the shoulder injury suffered by Xavier Worthy against the Chargers.

I know Xavier's the big question, and

he's

rehabbing and working his shoulder, and we'll just see where it goes

day by day here.

Okay, in other injury news, Rams left guard Steve Avila and right guard Kevin Dotson both suffered ankle sprains and are considered week to week per head coach Sean McVay.

Ellie's on the road the next two weeks at the Titans in week two.

There you go, Justin.

There's a reason for hope.

And at the Eagles in week three, how about Jeffrey Simmons goes off in a big spot here against a compromised offensive line?

Let's go, Gravy.

Let's see, let's see, let's see.

Saints, bad news for the Saints.

They have to replace a starting safety for the second time in seven weeks.

Safety Julian Blackman signed in July to replace the retired Tyron Matthew, the honey badger, likely done for the season with a shoulder injury, according to Kellen Moore.

Ellen Moore, Kellen Moore, Ellen Moore,

and

Ellen Moore,

Ellen Moore,

Ellen Moore.

She could appreciate that, or unless we're talking about her, Ellen Moore.

Ellen Moore.

She would appreciate it.

Ellen Moore.

Ellen Moore.

Ellen Moore.

Mark, Mark, give it a try.

Ellen Moore.

Ellen Moore.

It's fun.

The Falcons are trying out kickers after Young Way Koo blew one against the Bucs on Sunday.

The Jaguars made a trade sending running back Tank Bigsby to the Eagles in exchange for 2026 fifth and sixth round picks.

Watch him be a monster

for how.

That threw me.

Did that surprise you guys at all?

Like that trade kind of.

I didn't even blink

personally.

Okay.

But it's in the news rundown, so

it's newsworthy.

Why did it throw you?

I'd love to know.

Well, I know Travis Etienne had a monster opening weekend.

I guess it's just new regime, but like Tank Bigsby,

good red zone player, good part of the offense, and then you just ship him off for what I, whenever these draft picks are, like, worth nothing, I kind of.

That one surprised me early in the season.

Or what do they know about him?

I was like, what's he doing that they know about that the Eagles do not know about?

He was involved in trade rumors all offseason because they drafted Bishal Tutin, I think, in the fourth round or something, something like mid-round running back pick.

They really like the kid.

They have Travis Etn, obviously, and I think they're concerned about Tank Bigsby's pass protection.

And that, so he's not going to be the early down back because that's Etn.

He's not going to be the passing down back because he can't pass protect.

They have three good backs, and they figure, let's just move the guy.

This is big fantasy football news for anyone who drafted and stashed Bashal Tutin, but but I don't know how much it's going to affect the NFL season unless Saquon Barkley gets hurt.

Very well, very well.

I don't know if we didn't get to this on Sunday night, but there was that

incident after

a Ravens touchdown where the team was celebrating.

I think it was after Derrick Hunter's second touchdown.

Oh, no, it was after the Nuke Hopkins one-handed touchdown catch.

And it looked like the Ravens were going to coast to a win.

And some Bills fans smacked Nuke on the head, and then Lamar saw it and then Lamar gave him a pretty stiff two-handed shove.

I'm glad this didn't blow up into a big story, anti-Lamar story, because that would have felt a little predictable.

You get your hands off the players,

you don't own them or

just because they're close to you, you get to smack them in the head.

Well, bad news for that fan.

He has been indefinitely banned from the from Bills and NFL stadiums per team official.

The fan had been ejected after that shove on Sunday night.

So bad job by you.

And good job by Connor Orr.

This is what makes Connor great.

Right after this happened,

he did like a Connor did a deep dive into the civil liberties of that fan and what being a ticket holder entitles to in terms of protections.

And according to Connor, at least I hope I'm not speaking out of school, but based on his interpretation, the fan had no protection or legal recourse for what Lamar Jackson did by pushing him.

So maybe that's going to be an SI story coming out soon.

Maybe not.

But that that was a little insight from Connor.

Two quick items here.

I think the banning matters because this is a youth who doesn't appear to have any, he's not individually wealthy.

There's someone around him that has money, and he's in the front row of Buffalo Stadium.

So you get the sense he would have been going to many games

and he won't be now.

But secondly, if this,

I don't know.

There's hints that he did not.

I don't see him as a factory worker that bought his own ticket.

He looks like a youth.

But

if he had any plans of dating a woman in the western New York region over the next couple of months, good luck with that.

Because

Lamar Jackson

hurt his.

Because Lamar Jackson shoved him in.

Like, you've been shoved into another dimension by one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time.

And he literally disappeared.

He disappeared at the end of the day.

So I'm just saying

it's not attractive, right?

I think you could spin that quite easily because

he was showing his regional pride.

He smacked DeAndre Hopkins in the helmet and then was talking his shit to the rest of the Ravens.

And then Lamar Jackson, who's like this athletic freak, no one's expecting the boy to rise up against Lamar Jackson.

So I'm just saying, like, I don't think it's the death sentence in terms of his dating life that you say it is, but agree to just say that.

I tend to think it is, but

I'm willing to hear your point of view.

I think when you watch these videos on like, you know, Instagram and like there's a stadium fight, and one guy's being mouthy and just gets punched out.

It's like, that's not the guy that women are flocking to.

Yeah, but that's different.

If it's two drunk buffoons in the stands and one wallops the other one and you get knocked the F out, okay, obviously it's going to affect your potentially your dating habits if it goes viral.

But squaring off with, you know, Lamar Jackson, who's just a super athlete and like the ultimate male, I just don't think that has the same level of shame that you got a two-hand shove and you went backwards.

I mean, what do we expect?

I don't know.

We'll put a pin in it.

We can pick it up another time.

Yeah, let's take a pin in it.

It's vital information.

All right,

that's what's happening in the news.

Let's take a break and then we'll check in on power rankings.

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All right, before we go, a little new Monday night tradition.

I hope it's all right with everyone.

People fear change, Cecilie, you know?

They do.

And that's roll with it.

Christ.

They do.

And I embrace their fear, but I also do not embrace it.

What are you, Paul Zongus?

What a politician.

Two mentions in a row.

Let's do some power rankings.

As always, we'll do it in the quadrants, the four quadrants.

These are power rankings, and we're going to update them every week.

These are the official power rankings of record, record,

as you should know by now, the HTC power rankings.

Thank you, Paul Rudd.

So let's go through it, starting with one through eight, and let's take a look at it.

All right, number one.

Now is the Buffalo Bills, who obviously had that stirring comeback up three spots from our preseason rankings that we put out last month.

Number two, the Philadelphia Eagles.

You know, I'm the only one out of Mark, Justin, and Connor that kept them at number one.

Now, that is, again, as someone I was the official power rankings writer and analyst for NFL Media for four years.

If you have the number one spot in the power rankings in August, you're the Super Bowl champion, and I don't like to remove you from that spot till you lose a game.

So, even if the Eagles didn't look great, I keep them at number one until they stop winning football games.

Justin, by

to show the other side of it, have them at number four in in his personal rankings.

But overall, as we do like the mean or the mode or the aggregate or the average, they come out at number two.

Ravens at number three after that crushing loss.

Packers at four after that big win.

I thought the Packers would jump higher.

Connor has them at number five.

That's surprising.

People are slowly catching up to the truth.

Yes, I mean, that was a very impressive win, but maybe it was more, this is a pushback against the Detroit Lions, as you'll see, because we got Washington five, Chargers six, jumping six spots after the win over the Chiefs, the Chiefs dropping five spots to seven, and the

Lions, Connor has them at 12, so there you go.

That's the reason why they dropped five spots.

Let's go to the second tier.

All right, second tier, we have the Bucs nine, Rams 10, up four spots, Niners at 11, Broncos at 12, down four spots after an uninspiring win over Justin's Titans.

After that Monday night comeback, the Vikings stay at 13.

That's a little surprising to me.

The Steelers up three spots to 14 after that shootout win over the Jets.

The Bengals down five spots, win and drop five spots.

That's wild, but they didn't look good against the Browns.

Jags up nine spots, the biggest rise we've seen so far here after their week one win.

Who did they beat again?

Who the Jags beat?

The Panthers.

And we jump up nine spots?

Bro.

What is everybody doing?

Well, there's some drug use involved, I think.

I had him at 25.

Everybody at 15, 16, and Gravy has them 12?

They beat the Panthers.

I think they are.

Okay, through one week, they were the best team in the AFC South, which isn't saying much.

I get it.

But I think they're going to be a frisky team.

I think they're going to be a tier two playoff hopeful.

That doesn't mean they make it, but hopeful.

I stand by 15,

which was my vote as well.

I don't think that's right in the middle of the league.

That's a little bit of a hold, and let's see what they got next, what they do next week.

All right, to tier three,

a little bit of a hold on the Jacksonville Jaguars.

All of a sudden, everybody's in on the Jags.

Beat the Panthers.

All right, we got the Colts at 17, up 10 spots.

How about that?

Gravy really buying in on these week one results.

He had them all the way up to number 13 team in the league.

The Texans at 18, down three spots.

Seahawks, 19.

Falcons, 20.

Bears stay at the 21 spot.

Raiders, 22, only up one spot after.

I thought it was a nice performance in week one against the Patriots.

Cowboys,

what?

What is happening with our power rankings?

The Cowboys played really well

on the road against the Eagles.

And you have, Mark has him at 25.

Connor 23, Justin 23.

I have them at 16.

How can the Eagles, excuse me, where are the Eagles again in the power rankings?

They are number two.

How could the Cowboys take the Eagles to the very end of that game and battle in that game the way they did and be number 23 in the rankings down seven spots?

What's going on, Mark?

Speak to the whole group.

I'm about to defect from these power rankings.

Three of the cast members

are of like mind.

So I think it's future.

It's kind of like future.

Out of your mind is what you are.

The Cowboys should at least be at the middle grouping of the NFL after one week.

That performance is a good thing.

I can see the floor falling out at some point.

Like, I just don't.

What are you talking about?

You just, you said, oh, my God.

You said on Thursday, Mark, oh, the Cowboys, they really changed how I feel about them.

What is this?

And then you do the power rankings on Monday and they're 25.

Well, I had them lower before that.

So they did.

Let us know in the comments if you're on Dan's side or the other side.

Sound off in the comments.

And number two, I can only speak for myself when I say this, but to me, after one week, we still don't have a lot of information.

And like basically every team from like 13 to 25 to me is that you could put them in any order and I wouldn't really disagree.

It's a mishmash.

Yeah.

I mean, yeah, well, that's why power angles is an art.

You can't just mail in 13 to 25.

I didn't mail it in.

I got to work some proper villains on these power ranges.

We got to go to school, everybody.

All right, the Jets at 24.

We're all in a similar church on that one.

Ravi has them a little higher.

All right, now let's look in the last tier right now.

Very early, so we can't get too caught up in this, but we have Cardinals at 25, down five spots off of a win.

Okay.

We have the Patriots.

That's where I would point a finger at me and say, what are you doing?

You've been pro-Cardinals.

They win and you dropped them.

And you have them the lowest out of any of the four of them.

How is that possible, Mark?

It's a comeback story.

What has happened?

Our power rank, you know, you know what we are?

We're the Miami Dolphins of power rankings in week one.

I mean, we got to be better.

The Cardinals

win and drop five spots?

The same.

You have them one spot different than I do.

I know, but like I'm just saying, like, I had them.

I don't know where I had them originally, but like I it's probably in the similar territory, I would guess.

I don't know.

Like,

so I'm not going crazy, but I don't know how they dropped five spots.

That means you guys must have really created them.

I think other teams rose up.

It's not that they were, you know what I mean?

Like someone's got to take, I think other teams impressed us and we changed bottom field.

So here's what happened to the Cardinals.

Last week, Mark had, or preseason, sorry, Mark had them at 17.

Connor had them at 19.

Dan, you and I had them at 21.

So, Mark explained this one.

Hold on, I'm going to go to the next one.

So, you have the Cardinals at 17 before the season starts.

They win their first game, and now they're 24.

In context, I have concerns about the overall journey with the quarterback, and they nipped the Saints.

Like, had they, just this kind of like, are they just going to go win eight or nine games again?

eight games.

So, I don't, I don't hate this, but I also think that these are a little, after week one, it's like,

to Justin's point, we're kind of waiting and seeing on a lot of these teams.

So I don't know.

Are we factoring in the Jay Glazer reporting that he had vicious shits?

Kyler Murray.

Well, you know, he spoke to someone about that, and it sounds like he woke up at four in the morning with the look of the tweet of his body on the back of the house.

I mean, I can play this.

This man, Kyler Murray, the quarterback of the Cardinals, wakes up, and this is something Zuzzer, he factored into his power rankings.

The man woke up with explosive diarrhea, and he had to play quarterback in the NFL hours later.

He pumped himself full of a modium

AD or whatever, and gutted his way through that game just completely before that.

You put them at 23, I put them at 24.

I don't see like a vast chasm between them.

I can guarantee I didn't have him at 17 before the season started.

That's all I'm saying.

21.

I did, Dan.

Justin.

I had him at 21.

Okay.

All right.

Do you want to hear this Kyler Murray FaceTime call with Faze?

Who's FaZe?

I don't know.

Probably like a streamer.

Please help father.

He doesn't understand.

Yeah, let's hear it.

What's happening?

No, well, y'all got the dub, though.

Y'all say what's up.

Hey, Chad, say what's up to K1?

I'm live right now, bro.

Tell the chat, I said, what's good?

Chad, you heard that?

Hey, good dub, though, bro.

Damn, wait, so he woke up on 4:30 and we're just fed up all morning?

I woke up at 4:30, bro.

I was like,

I knew some shit wasn't right.

Immediately to the toilet.

Damn.

It was like that?

Tough.

Daddy's ass.

This is like the new Adam Shapter.

I had to take like some

emodium to keep the fing, to keep my stomach from, you know, fing with me.

But it was all good, though.

You know what I'm saying?

We got the dub.

It was...

It was a little sloppy though, bro.

Did you watch?

No, sloppy.

I'm good.

I don't need to hear this.

That's a lot more.

It was like Marcus Aurelius speaking to Tesla on the phone.

It felt like I was listening to the modern version of Walter Cronkite.

You know, it was just like, this is journalism.

Let's see.

Ba, ba, ba, ba.

The Giants, 27,

up two spots.

Hey, why not?

Move them up two spots after that incredible performance against the Commanders.

What is happening here?

The Browns up four spots, almost beating the Bengals.

Okay, that makes sense.

That checks out logically.

The Saints.

Actually, wait, before you continue, Dan, why do you have the Browns at 32?

Is that a bit?

Or is that really how you feel?

Yeah, what are you doing?

Let's point the light and the spotlight on you for a minute.

Like, their defense feels at least.

You gave up seven yards to your precious Joe Burrow in the second half, and like you got them at 32.

That's fair.

I should have them at 29.

You're right.

I should have bumped them a little bit.

Talk about the

end.

The Saints at 30, at 29.

The Titans stay at 30.

The Panthers down six spots to 31.

And there they are.

The Miami Dolphins, tough first week, dropped 10 spots to 32.

So there are the power rankings.

All right.

There you go, Mark.

That is the end of the Monday show.

We hope everyone enjoyed it.

I'm very happy that we have this

power ranking, this accountability around the power rankings now.

I feel like my eyes have been opened, and it's going to be a fun thing to track on Monday evenings with my buddy Mark.

I generally

am not attracted to accountability in various forms of life, so we'll see how it goes.

But I'm also open-minded, and I'm open to see the path ahead, Dan.

Very nice, very nice.

We all should aspire to be that way.

This is free content.

We hope you enjoyed the free content.

And if you don't, just pipe down, you know?

But there's also

non-free content, also known as paid content, over on patreon.com if you want more from

the heroes.

And we have some fun stuff coming out.

We have the latest edition of It Came from the Subreddit detailing the fan experience of this show and the discussions around this show.

So that will be going up shortly, as I understand it.

We also have, it's going to roll out later this week, Bob and I's review of Oasis in America, which has been fantastically exciting to experience if you're a fan of that particular British guitar band.

And then next week, the return of Rolling Thunder.

And of course, the

ATN, the HTC draft every Friday on the Patreon.

So check that out.

A lot of good stuff.

stuff over on the Patreon side of things and a lot of good stuff happening right here.

Everybody, thank you.

You'll hear from us again on Wednesday with Connor Orr.

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