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The hype around the Packers is going to become pretty tremendous.

If you can go beat these two teams in back-to-back weeks, everything around Jordan Love, everything around LaFleur, everything around the Packers is just going to amplify.

Like, so I think it's important for them to come out against a very spicy opponent and prove that last week wasn't a mirage against a division opponent.

Hey, oh!

Welcome to Heed the Call, the midweek show.

Dan Hans is here with

Mark Sessler,

Justin Graver on the ones and twos.

And for at least one more show, at least one more show,

the whole of Connor Orr.

Pre-snip, Connor Orr.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Want to do a little guy talk?

A little middle-aged guy talk in a big spot to start today's show?

Yeah.

Yeah, we can bring it up.

So today was what you're referring to.

Today was supposed to be the vasectomy.

The snip.

The snip.

Got a push to right before Thanksgiving.

So.

So the door's still open to do a little more work.

I like that.

The doctor pushed it.

This wasn't a hesitation on your part?

So what's going on in the house right now is that we have a six-month-old that is getting teeth and has not slept in roughly five days.

So, neither have my wife and I.

We're going on about an hour or two a night.

And so, I had this conversation yesterday where I was like, do you want me to be on no sleep plus feel like I have a hammer to my nuts constantly?

Or do we want to just kick this a little bit down the road to when the baby feels better?

And we unanimously agreed that that we might as well just push this a little bit.

So

it's funny.

It's funny because I have another friend.

And, you know, I'm staunchly against this.

You know, it's just something I'm not going to do, but I respect people that do do it.

And I always recommend people not to do this for a variety of reasons.

But I will say that I have a friend that's in the similar position as you who has given a credible excuse for postponing his vasectomy for five straight years now.

So let's see what happens on the dawn of Thanksgiving week.

That's all I'm going to say.

I had that long to think about it.

I'm in your camp, Dan.

This is not something that I'm going to dial up as a personal option.

I totally get it for certain people, but I always feel like you never know when the child rearing or the creation of a child will cease.

The desire to, or what's behind, what's the future, what's happening in the future?

We don't know.

Can I ask that?

Because

you guys are very set in stone on this.

So I want to know what the job is.

I'll answer for both of us.

For Mark,

Mark is still toying with the idea of building his own cult out where he is the one and only true God.

And it's very important to procreate in that setup.

So that's Mark.

That's an easy one.

Yep.

For me, it's trapped in some type of retrograde

1950s Don Draper.

You take that out of me.

You take out part of what makes me a man.

And I could talk to a therapist or I could have real frank conversations with other men my age that have done it.

I choose not to.

I choose just to say, I am as God made me, and I'll accept the risk that comes with all of it.

So, I am a, in this world,

I am a like offshoot cult leader, and you're Don Draper.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I think that's, I think that sums it up.

Per the use.

For a lot of friends in our circle, this is a rich moment for them because there was a wave of vasectomies before that when I was still,

my wife and I were still in the child having conversation.

And I was spreading like RFK level misinformation about vasectomies and telling people that there was like a 50% chance it would never work again if you did it and legitimately fear-mongering these husbands into delaying the process until they got the facts.

And now that I'm in this chair, it's just, you know, I'm reaping what I sowed.

I'm terrified.

I don't like it.

And I'm obviously getting no sympathy from someone who bore three children and did all of the hard work.

Sufficient.

Fair enough.

And just to be clear, Mark, I was using Draper in a pejorative sense there.

He was actually an anti-hero and a bad guy in a lot of ways.

And I was referring to you as more like the charismatic cult leader.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Let's not go like starting trouble.

Like that was, I was paying you a compliment because I know deep down that's what you want to be in the end.

I like the idea of the cult leader in the first third of any of those documentaries before the person spins completely out of control.

Right.

That's what they all think, though.

They think they could keep it in the first like 37 minutes of the doc.

All right.

Let's get on track here.

You know, the Wednesday show, we're going to have some fun on the Wednesday show in the regular season.

We're going to treat it kind of like as an end around,

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We also have a new throwback podcast, Oasis Special with me and Bob, and coming up soon, another Rolling Thunder.

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Speaking of charismatic cult leaders, I mean, Justin's got some potential.

Listen to that pitch.

Put on the red Nikes.

Take me to the compound, Rave.

Well, you know, I do host my own podcast, Music City Audible.

Oh, man, this guy's smooth as f ⁇ .

He's in total control.

All right.

Let me try to get the show back after that.

Yeah, so let's try to get to 23K by our next show.

And

like I said, welcome to the End Around Wednesdays.

All the stuff that interests us over the last 48 hours since our last show, we're going to dump out the notebook.

What is that?

The old journal term, Conman.

You're going to dump out, what is it?

Dump out the notebook?

Dump the notebook.

No, dump the notebook.

Yeah.

Note.

Notebook dump.

That's what it is for us.

All right.

Let's have some fun.

And to kind of get us into

the news items and everything else we've seen, let's hear from an angry Ravens fan following Sunday night's Tragic Comedy.

What the f?

How the f did we lose that f ⁇ ing game?

16 f ⁇ ing points you unanswered you?

What the f ⁇ is up with our defense getting cooked.

Michael McDonald's, where the f is you at, yo?

Come back from Seattle, fing lost to the Nonners anyway.

Derrick Henry fumbling the ball.

What the f, Derrick Henry?

I hate to say, yeah, we might need to move on.

Get a running back with something, an intangible quality, somebody different.

I don't know, somebody like Christian McCaffrey or Cam Scatterby or something like that.

Just those guys really stick out to me.

New kickers f ⁇ ing missing answers.

Bring that Justin Tucker, Tucker, yo.

Come on.

What'd he do?

It was so fucking bad.

I've been banned from White Marsh Mall for action for a fucking happy ending from Super Cuts.

Big deal.

Everybody does it, yo.

You got to relieve stress.

It's a stressful job kicking being a fucking kicker.

Lamar couldn't get it done on the f ⁇ ing last drive.

There's only one thing to do.

Lamar's good most of the game.

He can't do it in the big moments.

Trade four first-round picks for Joe Flacco.

He will be our fourth

quarterback, yo.

The Browns need that shit, okay?

They don't know what the f they're doing.

F you, Josh Allen.

F the Buffalo Bills.

We fing sunk.

Oh, Stars.

Oh, my God.

Tough times.

Tough times.

I'm sure, Mark, you're enjoying the Ravens fans going through it the last few days as

a Brown supporter.

Well, that guy is a well-known comedian and actor and podcaster.

I didn't know that when I first watched it.

And I was like, this is so delicious because he's like,

you know, you get one of these a year, usually from a fan base that isn't used to losing.

So it's not normal for them.

The emotion and the tangible ire, I had to watch that like five times.

And he's like on the verge of tears throughout of it.

Yeah, very good.

Very good.

All right, let's get into some news.

Let's start with Jalen Carter.

We're still waiting to see Jalen Carter play football this season

because, as we know,

after the kickoff of the Thursday night opener,

Carter spit on the chest of Dak Prescott.

There are a lot of conspiracy theories around this, that he was perhaps provoked because Dak had spit.

But, you know, let's be real.

Dak spit on the turf and then Jalen Carter spit on his chest.

So that seems like something that deserves punishment.

Well, he was kicked out of the game.

There's one punishment.

He's also now been fined $57,222.

What about these random numbers?

Have you ever done a Connor or deep dive?

I feel like that's a good Connor article.

Why so specific to the dollar with these fines?

If I'm not mistaken, that is the equivalent of a game check for him.

That's what they said he was fined.

The game check for week one.

So I think that number

is how.

Yes.

Now this all makes sense.

Because when I saw this, the league also says the game he was ejected for will serve as a one-game suspension.

And I was like,

well, it's not a one-game, it's not a suspension because you don't get paid on suspension unless you get a fine.

That's exactly the amount of your game check.

So I don't know.

I kind of like this.

Common sense prevailing at 345 Park Avenue.

And now Carter learns a lesson, hopefully, and he will not appeal.

And he will be back for the big Chiefs Eagles showdown in week two.

Well, that's that's my one note a little bit.

I thought you don't keep your star defender out of the week two game against the Chiefs if you're the NFL.

One other quick thing: the Eagles.

You'll enjoy this, Dan.

The Eagles have stated that they will handle any further discipline in-house.

I'm sure that will be a stiff discipline.

Don't you think they're going to handle that with a plausible?

Siriani's going to come down like a sledgehammer.

Police.

In other news.

Dominic DeSandro, big dom, and he's sort of a legend.

Speaking of the Kansas City Chiefs, you know, the play that

Xavier Worthy, their former first-round pick, and a very important piece of their offense, suffered a shoulder injury on a collision with his teammate, Travis Kelsey.

And Kelsey went on his New Heights podcast.

It's got to be a little bit of a come down

on the New Heights side of things when you have the biggest star on the planet on the show and you do 70 trillion views.

Like, it's kind of like it's almost - should that be the last podcast they do?

Because everything else is a little bit downhill, but I digress.

Anyway, I'm just trying to get rid of competition wherever I can.

Here is Travis Kelsey taking the blame for the play that GotWorthy got.

How does this go wrong?

Who's like, who's got the right away on the stop sign here?

I'm supposed to be running my route at depth for Worthy.

So

it's frustrating for me.

I was trying to kind of set up my guy to be able to get in a position to, and it all just happened pretty quick.

And I just got to be better, man.

I'm 13 years in the league.

There's no excuse for me running into my own guys like that and being able to play fast and help him out.

Worthy had his guy beat, and we're out the gate, and that game starts completely different.

Hmm.

He's got a logo, a personal logo on his hat, by the way.

I think so.

I was thinking about that as I was watching that.

Interesting.

Yeah, it's got a TK.

He is engaged to marry a billionaire.

Like, that's not an exaggeration.

Taylor Swift is a billionaire.

What is the motivation to play football, let alone do a podcast with your brother when you marry into a billion dollars?

That's going to be,

when that wedding happens, I would assume in the next year or so.

Like, you know, Justin's fiancé is in a similar situation.

Like, once you marry into billions, where do you go in terms of motivation?

Where's the internal fire, right?

Exactly.

Where is the internal fire?

Huh?

Yes, Justin?

What?

Billions?

What am I doing on this show?

The reception will be held at the Lake House, or I post-haste.

In other Chiefs, Nose, this is something that is

unusual.

Patrick Mahomes begins the week as a home underdog in Sunday's Super Bowl rematch between the Chiefs and Eagles.

The Eagles opened as a one and a half point favorite over the Chiefs.

If the line holds, this from David Purdom of ESPN.

Mahomes will be a home underdog for only the second time in his NFL career.

The only other time was back in 2022 when the Bills were laying two and a half points of wood.

So

not common territory for Kansas City.

A little of the Mahomes thing, Connor,

is because there has been this,

for the first time, a little bit of doubt about the Mahomes' magic and what he can do.

And then Friday night in Brazil didn't do anything to alleviate thoughts that maybe the Chiefs don't have that juice anymore in offense.

It still, I think, sets up a little bit well for Kansas City to put Patrick Mahomes potentially in FU mode.

I just still have too much faith in his abilities, and I think they probably like the fact that they're underdogs in this game.

At the risk of once again being accused of glazing, which I just looked up what that meant, and that's disgusting, Patrick Mahomes.

I think that that was a high-juice game.

from Patrick Mahomes, but we are seeing kind of the bare minimum of what's around him.

And I would argue that we're probably going to see even less of whatever you would call the Mahomes aura because if you look at the matchup against the Eagles, they're going to digest how that Super Bowl went.

I think this is going to be a quick game heavy matchup for them.

Like, I think it's take the ball, get rid of it.

Take the ball, get rid of it.

Like almost do what the Patriots are trying to do against Aaron Donald in that Super Bowl.

Just keep him away from people who are going to hurt him.

I'm pretty sure that Andy Reid didn't love the fact that he kept lowering his shoulder and inviting contact because once that shoulder gets messed up, the season is completely over.

And you can't fix it with a Tyreek Hill trade, for example.

It's beyond that when Patrick Mahomes is hurt.

It is interesting to see how they approach the attrition that's already occurred here.

I'm not surprised though, it's only the second time he's been an underdog at home because the Chiefs were superb the minute he got there.

They've stayed that way.

And it's like you don't often, you've got to essentially face the Super Bowl champions who kicked your butt and host that team this early in the year, I think, to get dinged on the spread.

But maybe it kind of turns up the volume inside that building.

In other news, the 49ers are placing Pro Bowl tight end George Kittle on injured reserve, meaning he now will miss at least the next four games.

Kittle injured his hamstring early in Sunday's win over Seattle.

He's going to be out certainly against New Orleans.

Atlanta, Jacksonville, and the Rams.

So

not the heaviest slate in terms of scheduling, but also a sneak peek into that the Niners have the easy schedule in the league.

But certainly a bummer for the Niners, and they just have to find people that can step up like Mr.

Was it Tongas?

Our buddy.

Big Tongas.

Tongus.

Paul Tsangas.

Tongas, son of Paul Tsangas.

Yeah, so kittle out four weeks.

Any other news?

Oh, is there a Brock Purdy update, Gravy?

Let's see where we're at at the midweek point here.

I imagine we'll have a practice report sometime later today.

Definitely by the time this podcast is out.

But as of right now, we haven't received yet.

Thank you, sir.

Right now, he is deemed to be uncertain for week two against the Saints with shoulder and toe issues.

In other news, this one was like...

A little bit of scratching my head on this one.

J.J.

McCarthy, Vikings, not rookie, second year, but first-time starter, was named the NFC Offensive Player of the Week.

This is a couple days after he led that comeback win over the Bears at Soldier Field.

This one had me scratch my head.

And also, my radar is a little bit up.

I mentioned sledgehammers earlier.

The NFL can be as subtle as a sledgehammer sometimes when they decide who their favorite sons are and who they want to promote to be.

their guys.

And I think McCarthy, the cute little white boy with his face paint and says all the right things in the interviews and some of the reporting around him, which is all good.

I'm not trying to be cynical about this, but like some breathless reporting this week.

Can you believe it?

J.J.

McCarthy went into the huddle

in his first start and said to all these veterans, can you believe we get to do this for a living?

It's like,

let's not.

force J.J.

McCarthy as a thing.

Let's make it a little more natural.

Player of the week for a guy who finished 29th in dropback back epa uh in week one

it's these are narrative driven because remember back at the nfl they would you'd get it you'd be there early in the morning and like you'd get an internal email like who won these things and it always kind of struck me like who decided this

yeah So to your point, I mean, I think that J.J.

McCarthy was one of the coolest stories of the week and the way the whole thing unfolded.

And

it's someone, I could see it clearly getting on your radar.

He swept me away that night.

Was he the best player in the NFC that you saw?

This was in the week.

No, and that's the thing.

I think that's who, who decides,

can I, can I, let me make an attempt at defending J.J.

McCarthy here.

And then after you're done, I'm going to kind of come against my own point for a moment.

So go ahead.

You find it the show works.

So when I re-watched the entire thing, I understood how valuable guys like Jordan Addison are to this offense.

Because if you look at some of the stuff that went wrong for JJ McCarthy, like even pre-snap, there's receivers that are motioning, tripping over each other, running into each other.

And the timing of that offense was so messed up for like half of the game.

And then all of a sudden, you saw the touchdown before the missed two-point conversion, and they ran basically the same play that they ran earlier in the game, where a guy trips, bangs into someone, messes the whole thing up.

And now all the motion and stuff, the precision, everything is working.

and he throws a touchdown on it and to me to see him come back from that and to ride through it and we were getting serious sam darnold ghost vibes through that whole first half that adds to the whole thing for me right like the offense is broken you're left for dead you're in an automatic pass rush situation and you overcome it and one little nugget and i know it's totally meaningless but i watched that pick six again and he chased the guy the whole way down and i love it it's like the anti-derek Carr, like

throwing his hands up thing.

And so what?

This kid never quits.

Look at him run after his pick six.

Are we not doing that?

Are we not supposed to do that?

There's little things that make me just, you know, make my heart flutter.

And maybe I can't.

I like him too.

Yeah.

I doubt the NFL is looking at the motion.

I picked the Vikings as an over for a reason because I think he's going to do well on that offense.

It's just a little bit my antenna was raised.

And I was actually fired up initially when I saw this.

And I was like, look at the NFL forcing this kid down our throats.

Just let it be natural.

And then I said, let me go check out.

And I went to a fantasy site.

And while it is narrative-driven, it's also like, who had the best stats?

Very, that's very a big part of it also.

Right.

And here's something I want to point out to you.

Here are the top seven fantasy scorers in week one.

Josh Allen, Justin Herbert.

Aaron Rodgers, Lamar Jackson, Justin Fields, Daniel Jones, Derrick Henry.

What do they all have in common?

They all play in the AFC.

They all play in the AFC.

And I'm like, okay, so who was J.J.

McCarthy's competition for this award?

You could have given it to Baker Mayfield, who threw three touchdowns in a win.

You could have given it to...

Well, what about Jordan Love?

Jordan Love, you could have given it to.

You could have given it to maybe

Bijan Robinson.

When you actually start to really break it down, it was a weird, topsy-turvy week where all the top performers were in the AFC.

So there was a couple things that came together to make this so, but doesn't mean my radar is not up anyway.

That's all.

One quick thing, because I think if you're watching this player in his first ever game and you point to what Connor pointed to about what's around him, and just to see how he didn't wait.

We've seen a lot of rookies like they can get ruined quickly.

But the player I watched in the third and the fourth quarter, like literally fourth runner mostly.

Right, but it literally grown before our eyes, like that quickly.

So that's an unusual thing to experience.

No, see, no one's disagreeing with you on that.

I said that on Monday night.

I said that.

He looked like a jet.

I mentioned Darnold Conner.

He looked like Zach Wilson.

He looked like those guys.

So to be able to pull yourself out of that tells you a lot about the kid, and it tells you a lot about the coaching.

So let's see what he does as an encore in week two.

And one last note on the Vikings, because that game, we didn't talk about this on Monday, Mark, but with 2.0-2 to play after the Bears scored their kind of desperation touchdown to make it a one-score game again,

Ben Johnson had the opportunity to save essentially a timeout.

They only have one timeout left,

but 202 on the clock.

So if his kicker, I think it's Cairo Santos, can boot it out of the end zone, the Vikings take over, and the clock will stop, obviously, after the first play because of the two-minute warning.

However, Santos' kick was short, and Ben Johnson was rightfully criticized because he could have just kicked it it out of bounds, which led to the question: could the Vikings have declined the penalty if Ben Johnson made the right choice and didn't take any chances with this kicker and just kicked it out of bounds?

Could we have been in a situation where there is an infinite loop, Connor, where the Vikings, the Bears keep on kicking it out of the bounds and the Vikings keep declining it.

And as we do the show, they're still doing that play over and over again until someone breaks.

It turns out, no, you cannot decline a kick out of bounds.

So obviously, that was the right move by Ben Johnson.

So a big rookie mistake by the first-time head coach.

Can you imagine the people who crafted the original NFL rulebook?

And it was just this lawless group of drunks and

people who are completely and totally adrift.

And they write this thing down that now we're analyzing to try to see if we can create infinite loops out of.

Like these people could barely tie two shoes together.

They had no money, most of them.

And now it's just become so large that I love thinking of like Burt Bell back in 1936 being like, God, well, if we put this roll in here, they're going to be able to create infinite kick loops out of this.

I don't know.

Yeah.

I mean, if you told those old salty drunks that all lived till 53 and it was like, that was a full life.

Guess what?

There's also this thing called a Waymoo that just drives around without a driver.

Like most of the wars now are done via like an Xbox controller, dropping bombs on villages.

Like, you know, the world has changed quite a bit, I guess, in a lot of ways.

I cited two dire examples, but there's been much progress made in the world of medicine as well.

Like penicillin, you know, or yeah, death drones.

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Welcome back to the End Around Wednesday where we just, you know, we pick up all the pieces in the middle of the NFL week.

And let's move on.

Yes.

Hey, Dan, random question.

Are you familiar with a Ken Farbach?

Ken Farbach.

Ken Farbock.

Oh, oh, oh.

Is he from IPRA?

IPRA?

Yeah, the International Power Rankings Alliance.

Oh,

I've done some work with him before.

Yes.

Well,

he's on the line.

Oh, Patrick.

Wow, Ken.

It's been a while.

Ken, are you there?

Yes.

I am trying to reach Dan Hanses of the He to the Call Football.

Yeah, Ken, this is me.

Yeah,

we've spoken before.

How are you?

What can I do you for, bud?

Well, good afternoon, Mr.

Hansis.

My name is Ken Farbeck, as you know.

I am a duly elected co-deputy chairman of the International Power Rankings Alliance, a sovereign and independent body.

For the record, I just have to read this.

I hope you don't mind.

It's just something we have to go through.

Is it okay if I...

We are.

Ken, we're on the air right now, but okay, go ahead.

In accordance with the Article 4, Section 7, Subclause 12B of the Alliance Charter, which I did not write, but am nonetheless, as I said, legally compelled to read, we have opened a comprehensive investigation into the ethics, methodology, and frankly basic common sense of your week two power rankings.

I was afraid of this, Ken.

Yeah,

these are not phone calls I relish giving, so you can imagine how I feel.

Yeah, is there a, I mean, can you give a little more, like, what does this mean for us?

Yeah, well, I just want you to know,

we're not at red alert here.

This inquiry has been designated a category orange incident, which, as you surely know, is one step below a full-scale meltdown.

All remarks during this call may be entered into the Permanent Alliance Archive, which is stored on a single external floppy disk currently located in my nephew's garage.

Yeah, Ken, again, and I respect what you do, and I thank you so much for helping me out with that one thing with the guy a couple of years back.

Is there anything in particular that might have red-flagged this that maybe we can work on going forward?

Because we do, the power rankings are an important part of our show, and I agree with you that we didn't live up to the standard that we've set.

But anything in particular that we could work on?

Sure, Dan.

Yeah, I'll just go ahead and read off your list of

actions that have been flagged.

Is that okay?

Would you mind if I proceed with that, Mr.

Hansis?

Yeah.

Again, we're in the middle of a show here.

Understand it won't take long to bear with me right now.

Okay, Mr.

Dan, I only need about seven or eight minutes.

Just give me, just bear with me here.

Well, maybe if we could just go a little tighter than that, Ken.

Again, Mark, Connor, and Justin are all on with me right now.

It's not just you and I right now.

I understand, Dan.

I'll go ahead and just read these out.

Number one, moving the Super Bowl winning Eagles out of the number one spot after beating the Cowboys.

Number two, dropping the Broncos five spots after a win.

Number three, Bengals down five after a win.

Number four, Jaguars of Jacksonville up nine spots after beating the Panthers of Carolina.

Number five, the Bears holding on to their 21st ranking after looking dismal on offense against Minnesota.

The Cowboys dropping seven spots after a fiery start to the season against said Super Bowl-winning Eagles.

Dropping the Arizona Cardinals five spots after a win.

That one has been approved, so no need to explain there.

Though the QB's toilet woes should have been taken into account more.

And let's see, anything else?

No, just a general sadness.

Buffoonery.

Yeah, that's a technical term.

All right.

Ken, you know, I appreciate you, and I know you're just, this is part of your job, but I got to get on with the show.

And again, Connor, Justin, and Mark are here.

It's not just us talking.

Is there anything else you guys

can do

and we could just move forward here

well Dan as I said I do appreciate your time and as you know if we do need to move further in this inquiry there will be permanent power ranking privileges removed from this podcast so I do apologize if if if that is the case you might want to consider removing one of the people

apparently wait a second a Mark Sessler

seems to be wait a second Hang on.

Ken.

First of all, dismissing that out of hand, Mark's name is on the show, and he's putting everything he's got in this.

And again, Ken, Mark's here.

Mark's on the line.

Mark, you have to.

I'm on the line.

Yes, Dan.

I am listening to Ken Farbach.

Yes, Dan.

Yes, you are listening to me, Dan.

Listen, Dan, Mark is just a big dong-tripper, and I want you to keep that in mind.

Tripping dong day and night.

All right.

Ken, I think this is, maybe we could take this offline because, again, this is, we're in the middle of a show, legitimately, and you've been a little rude, I think, overall.

Well, thank you.

Thank you for that.

I will take that into advisement.

That is in the record, and it will end up on my nephew's floppy disk.

All right.

Ken Farbach, Deputy Commissioner, Chief Integrity Officer of the Farbock.

Farbock, excuse me.

Of the IPRA International Power Rankings Alliance.

Okay.

Justin, let's kill that.

He did.

I'm sorry about that.

I didn't.

Obviously, that was.

And just so you know, Mark, that was never

not beyond like maybe a split second initially.

Was it ever thought that we would make any changes to who votes and all that stuff?

I'm completely stunned by how that

production went down there with Barbara.

So

I have some thoughts on this.

Mostly the fact that the outrage over most of our week one power rankings should just discontinue the need for a preseason power rankings because we don't really know dick about the NFL until a game is played.

And so they're kind of like these unstable atoms.

And I know a ton about science.

And all of a sudden, we start to quantify them as the season goes on.

And so, of course, there's going to be teams jumping up 10 because they look freaking awesome and teams dropping down.

And sometimes the wins and losses matter.

I'm speaking plenty of logic.

That makes sense.

I'm sorry sorry to interrupt, but you're speaking a ton of logic.

But as you know, you handle Power Rankings for one of the most well-known and renowned sports publications to ever grace the earth.

Sure.

And I wrote Power Rankings for four years for NFL Media.

Mark's here.

And it's like, I think that

if the entire Power Rankings community does a preseasons ranking, yes, the bar has been set.

And

we can't just skip it.

It's like when Mike Mayock during draft season, he'd be like, oh, I don't do any pre-draft mocks.

I throw out one.

And it's like, well, that doesn't make you better.

It actually, it's the hardest power rankings to do is that first one and then compare it against your preseason one.

So

listen, they flagged us.

It's an orange level threat, I think it was called.

And we'll be okay.

We'll be okay.

Some teams that

won.

Some teams that won and were

penalized by us, so to speak, based off of where they were in the preseason power rankings.

I don't care if some of those teams won.

Like, and I'd, I'll go back and look at my list if I'm the one that's standing out here, which I find to be

utterly Farbuck pointed you out, but I never, I never did that.

I'm not suggesting that you, I mean, I'm going to go back and re-watch that, when this segment again, but we each had a couple wild things go down in that power rankings, and I wouldn't change a single thing that I did.

I stand by what I've seen and how I feel and

where I put those teams.

So, Farbach.

Good for you.

And that's that's what you need.

I hope Farbach's listening to that.

I don't know if Farbach was really totally cognitively plugged in.

There's some stuff going on there.

All right, let's move on.

Jim Harbaugh, you know, sometimes Harbaugh's admiration for his quarterbacks, and currently his quarterback is Justin Herbert,

you know, makes me think it's one of the reasons why he's a great head coach

because that positive affirmation, I think, at some point he decided as a former quarterback himself in the NFL and college, of course, like that that makes you a better quarterback to have your coach publicly behind you.

But sometimes, Harbaugh, it crosses over into a Mark Wahlberg and fear territory.

Here is Harbaugh talking about Justin Herbert once again.

And a huge hit on Justin.

The kind of hit that would have killed a lesser man.

That's how big that hit was.

Let's be honest about that.

And then

our guy, Justin Herbert,

gets right back in the huddle and it's third and 14

and

hits Quentin Johnson.

Going back to our Player of the Week conversation, like Herbert, there was so much competition in the AFC, and then the game was played on a Friday, which was obviously dopey, but that's the way it is.

It kind of got lost in the sauce a little bit, like how incredible Justin Herbert Mark was in that game.

What I see is true here is that that version of Justin Herbert has been influenced by Jim Harbaugh and vice versa.

And it's like,

I kind of love this offense because it's eight.

It's not what we thought it was going to be.

And we're not having to worry about Justin Herbert being tamped down for the next four years

by this regime.

I see the opposite.

And in our document where we, you know, Justin does an incredible job organizing our news here.

And the document, the title for this bit of news was Jim Harbaugh Wants to F his Quarterback.

And my only comment was that here in L.A., he's probably not alone.

Yeah.

This is an attractive.

That was kind of an internal document, Mark.

And, you know,

I'm quite active in the doc as well, so I don't want Justin to be affixed to his name necessarily.

He might not want that to be seen as it came from him.

I believe that there is an attraction between the coach and quarterback that, while not literal, is fierce.

I did not write that.

So, yeah.

You know who doesn't want to bang an NFL figure?

Gravy doesn't want to bang Brian Callahan.

Okay.

Brian Callahan is a coach that is feeling the heat right now.

He's feeling the heat already after

tough sledding 20 to 12.

Hard fought, but tough loss 20 to 12 to the Broncos on Sunday on the road.

And the Titans coach admitted he incorrectly decided not to challenge an incomplete ruling by the officials that took away a 23-yard reception by rookie receiver Elek Ayumanner.

Ayumanner.

Yeah, you were close.

Pretty good.

And there was...

Justin, if you want to get us into this quote, it seemed at first that Callahan tried to push back on that.

He was confused.

He was under the impression, and this is a tough one because he's a head coach.

He was under the impression that if you get an elbow down, you still have to get a foot down on the sideline as a receiver of the ball when pretty much everybody knows, thanks to Mike Torico and Al Michaels and every other announcer ever, that an elbow or any body part that's not your feet, right,

equals two feet.

Am I right about that?

Yeah.

Any part that's not feet or a hand, yes, equals two feet.

Brian Callahan said explicitly in his post-game presser on Sunday, one elbow does not equal two feet.

He said that.

He said, you still have to get a foot down.

No, you do not.

And then.

Yes.

And then

someone alerted him, hey, Bri Bry, we got a problem here.

And then this is what he came out and said the next day.

Yes, and

this was part of his opening presser remarks.

He gives a whole two-minute spiel on things we did well, things we need to do better.

And then he said, and I know you guys are all here to talk about the play I didn't challenge.

And this is what he went on to say.

Tough one.

And look, ultimately,

my interpretation of the rule was wrong.

I'll own it.

We should have challenged the play.

And

that's pretty much all I can say about it.

I'll own the mistake.

We should have challenged it.

And that's where it stands.

Just for context,

if the catch would have been overturned or made into a catch, the Titans would have had the ball near midfield and a first down in what was at the time a one-point game, I believe, early in the second half, Justin.

So, yes, a potentially costly mistake by the coach.

Connor, we don't want to destroy Callahan.

We're all human after all.

But when you have a rookie first number one overall pick, making his first start ever, you want to help him as much as you can, and the coach needs to know the rules, bottom line.

Yeah, I thought thought him callahan and ben johnson both surprised me in terms of they did come with the humility approach they both made tactical errors and those are both guys that i thought would really double down until it was not possible to double down anymore but that i thought i was kind of not impressed but i thought they both did a good job of it but from a coaching standpoint, it's kind of inexcusable because nearly everybody has a game, a trusted game manager on the headset who's supposed to be relaying that stuff.

I almost don't care that you don't know the rules.

Like you're a play calling head coach and you have a lot on your plate, which just necessitates the need for somebody that you empower on that headset to be able to say, no, you don't know the rules.

Here's the rules.

Challenge the damn play.

And so for me, that's the long and short of it.

That's more like a Titans issue in the way that the Titans are organized because if it were 20 years ago,

okay, but in 2025, it feels like you'd have like seven super nerds up there telling telling you exactly what to do.

The first football book that I ever read was John Madden's One Knee Equals Two Feet.

I mean, it was like one of the most widely read books for the common younger fan to teach you about the game.

And like that phrase always stuck out to me.

But I'm also glad that I'm not a head coach because there are plenty of rules that I do not know.

Rob Reederer is the director of game management and strategic initiatives.

So he could have been in the coach's ear there, and he wasn't.

So it was a complete meltdown.

But it was the coach who takes the heat.

And, you know, to Callan's credit, he didn't put it on anybody else.

He just said,

I screwed up.

I screwed up.

Bill Belichick.

I don't know if you guys are tracking Belichick too much right now, but

back on,

I think it was Labor Day,

Belichick began his college coaching career at UNC with a blowout loss to TCU, 48-14, and that score wasn't even representative of how ugly that game is.

He has since got a win against, I think it was

our Lady of the Worthless Miracle in the second game of the season.

So they got a W, UNC.

But he did take an L in a different category.

This from Florio at PFT

via Michael Rothstein of ESPN.com.

The U.S.

Patent and Trademark Office has declined for trademark applications filed by the North Carolina Carolina coach and his Muse/slash handler slash personal PR rep slash girlfriend Jordan Hudson.

That's Florio's words, not mine.

Earlier this year, they sought trademark protection for you.

Ready, Mark?

Do your job.

Open parenthetical, Bill's version.

Close parenthetical, a play on the Taylor Swift re-recordings of her catalog in

defiance of Scooter Braun and that business that happened with her career.

Ignore the noise, Bill's version.

The Bellestrator, Bill's version, and No Days Off, Bill's version.

The problem is that Belichick's former employer, the Patriots, holds the rights to the same four phrases without Bill's version.

But the trademark office said that would lead to confusion, and hence he was shot down, as was Jordan.

And in general, Mark, the bad vibes between the Belichick and the Patriots are,

it's at a level that I guess surprises me.

There was also a story a couple days earlier about Belichick banning any Patriots personnel from UNC games or something to that effect.

It's just like Kraft and Belichick are bitter enemies at this stage of the game, and that's just pretty crazy when you think about the history they have together.

Well, I'm not surprised that we're getting petty behavior from the Belichick camp, which seems to me to be in a swirl of chaos online.

I tried to defend aspects of this for a while.

It's starting to float away from me in rapid fashion.

I mean, the Patriots also

seem to have no desire to play ball with Belichick, who did nothing but change their franchise entirely.

It's kind of ugly and sad.

And I did watch that first UNC game and it's like, why is he doing this?

Like, what is, how, what is this?

I feel like his legacy is in one way not interrupted at all because we'll forget about most of this at some point.

or will we?

Because this is one of the uglier late life chapters around.

I have nothing to add except for the fact that his Nantucket house is for sale, and it is just gorgeous.

Ooh, we're doing a little Zillow fun.

Let's jump on Zill.

Yeah,

I love Zillowing.

I get real silly on that website.

And

if you can just pull this up.

I mean, just the light woods and then the interplay of the white.

And then you just bring in just a sniff of the dark tones with some of your tables and your clock and then the stainless steel appliances.

I mean, forget about it.

And you got to own that land around it, right, Connor?

Because that's the only way you could have all that private beach is that that's your land or unless it's but up against some type of town

private land.

But that is, all right, and only 3.9 million.

So

you have to do something where

you put that house on the back of one of those gigantic flat,

like one of those gigantic trucks that transports houses and move it from Nantucket down to the Carolinas.

This would not be surprising based on how I look, but there's been multiple times like I was not taken seriously in an Armani store once and just escorted out as an adult.

I was turned away when I tried to open.

What were you wearing at the time?

I just need to know.

What is wearing right now?

Kind of.

Were there sleeves on the sweatshirt?

probably not, if knowing me.

And there was another time that I went into a bank and they had a, you could open a CD account with a certain amount of money.

And I came in and I asked about it.

And the guy put his arm around me and he goes, oh, buddy, I think what you mean is our free checking accounts.

Because he just assumed that I didn't have that much money.

But when you look at this Bellichek thing, there's an option to request a tour.

And I just wonder what the realtor's face would look like if the three of us just showed up and asked to be walked around this place in Nantucket.

I also just work under the assumption that Michael Lombardi is just in charge of all this shit.

Like he's in charge.

Hey, hey, post it on Zillow.

Hey, I want you to go up there this weekend and clean the place up.

And,

you know, there's some podcast bozos that want to take a look at the place.

You just give them a tour.

You understand me?

Yes, sir.

Absolutely, sir.

I'll be right back.

Look at that place.

Gorgeous.

All right.

Luxury.

Let's see.

Let's see.

Let's see.

Let's see.

All right.

Quick, quick, quick.

Some moves.

The 49ers have released kicker Jake Moody, their third-round pick.

Don't draft a kicker in the second or the third or even the fourth round.

All it does is put undue expectations and pressure and pour pressure into a position that already has more pressure than any position in any sport.

It never seems to work.

And you could probably point out a couple guys here or there.

But more often than not, this is what happens.

Moody's cut.

They sign steady Eddie Pinero.

These guys work forever.

They're like they're like in baseball, the lefty on lefty relievers that used to just pitch for a thousand years.

It's like, holy shit, how long has Logan Boone been in the league or Boone Logan?

It's been like, this guy just needs to get one guy out.

What a gig.

All right.

The Falcons are signing kicker Parker Romo.

Now, that's a new name.

I haven't heard that one.

Usually, you know who's on the kicking carousel in free agency.

Parker Romo to the practice squad.

Keep an eye on that.

Young Way Ku has, you know, at times been one of the top kickers in the league, but obviously he blew the game for him yesterday.

And coaches don't like when the kickers blow the games.

Speaking of blowing the game,

Jets cut wide receiver/slash kick returner Xavier Gibson after his costly fumble on kickoff.

On a kickoff, led to the Steelers recovery, quick Rodgers touchdown, and eventually the Jets obviously fell by two points in that shootout.

Gibson's time in the sun, as Jets fans will undoubtedly recall, was his punt return touchdown in overtime against the Bills on the Aaron Rodgers Achilles night.

But that was the first game of his career.

Let's hope that this wasn't the last game of Gibson's career.

But sometimes with those special teams guys, Connor, it happens in a blink.

Can I just say, and

I believe this with all of my heart.

And when this news came out today, there was a flurry of like, like, yeah, Aaron Glenn's not messing around.

I don't like this.

And this just comes from a decade worth of interviewing players in locker rooms.

And when players feel like they have room to make the mistake, that they're accepted by the coach, that's often when you get peak performance out of these guys.

Mike Westoff was legendary for scaring the bejesus out of his kickers and punters and long snappers.

And these guys come out every down shaking, afraid to make a mistake because they're worried about, you know, feeding their family and continuing to work in the NFL.

And so while it's a cool, tough guy lever to pull sometimes, now the next guy has to go out there and try to field that punt.

And you're creating this psychological experiment around it.

And

let me just push back a little bit.

First of all, the context is important.

Glenn,

he worships at the altar of Parcells.

Parcels is famous for this.

Parcells famously once said to Adam Vinatieri when he was a young kicker and who's struggling early in the season or the preseason, right before he went on the field, hey, kid, if you missed this kick, you're fired.

And that no pressure, no diamonds

style of coaching is not exactly in vogue anymore.

And it does feel a little out of time.

But I guess as a fan slash, as a Parcells disciple,

slash as

a Jets fan who just went through the Robert Sala era where it felt like there was no accountability for these guys when they made mistakes, I kind of, it's a little bit of a breath of fresh air.

Now, if Brees Hall fumbles away a game, like,

what are you going to do to Brees Hall?

It's easy to get rid of a fringe guy.

Gibson was only even in that game because the starting kick returner went out with an injury earlier, but it sends a message.

It's a message, and it's a little antiquated.

I get you, Connor.

But I also kind of like that don't up here.

We're trying to build something.

Isn't it a different, isn't it a little different team by team?

I mean, I mean, the Niners just did it with a kicker, and like these guys come and go.

But I think, and Connor, I hear your point because I think different players, Belichick, or Parcels also treated different players in different ways depending on their psychological makeup.

Like Sims versus Taylor were not treated the same way.

So I think in this case, I don't mind it because it's specifically the Jets who need to, I think there need to be some signposts that tell us this Jets team is different.

But from a player angle, it...

It's a hideous occurrence.

It kind of works until it doesn't, right?

And we'll see.

All right.

Let's, uh and finally the steelers sign former patriot safety jabril peppers let's take one more break we come back we'll take a look at the first game of week two uh and then uh tie up a couple loose ends the end around continues

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All right, we are back.

You know, I have been around long enough, Mark.

Remember when we were working at NFL Media when they launched Thursday Night Football and it was just bad games after bad games after bad games.

It's not the case anymore.

In fact, it feels like almost all the games are bangers now on Thursday, and Al Michaels is pumped up about that.

And Kirk Herbstreet, if Kirk Herbstreet is, you know, still like,

is he still doing it?

Is Herbstreet back again?

He's never seemed particularly like plugged in.

I would put it that way.

I don't know.

But maybe he is.

You'll find out on Thursday.

He's not passionate

to some to cover these island games.

I won't hear the Al Michaels slander.

I'll let that man get old in front of me.

I will hold him in my embrace, but I can't do the same for Kirk Herbstreet.

He sounds like if you put me in a La Liga booth and ask me to call a game with zero research, and then I'm just making cursory observations about like, well, and you see this guy's hair and unbelievable.

And like also, like, maybe though, like, with that La Liga team, like your son was the same age, and you coached some of those guys in youth sports.

So you're just calling on like their prior experience in a different league altogether.

It's like, oh, yeah, this kid, this guy went right after the oranges and he came out firing in the second half every time.

It's like, what?

Anyway, here we go.

Week two.

Week two already, Mark.

We're almost to the finish line.

The Washington Commanders against the Green Bay Packers.

Oh, I love it, Mark.

Sesse, your Packers in primetime.

And we get to see how they, and nice little setup for their schedule because they're getting two big-time teams in the Packers and the Commanders, but they're getting them both in their backyard.

This one at Lambeau Field as well.

And the Commanders, I watched the Giants Commanders game this morning.

I wasn't blown away.

I thought they were a little sloppy, but I thought there were a lot of

indicators to me.

that they will be a force again in the NFC, that they could play, they could play a C-plus game and just easily handle a team like the New York Giants.

So I'm very interested to see if the commanders, how they play in this game, they're going to have to be sharper to hang with a team like the Packers come off their win.

Legitimate challenge right out of the gate.

And

they've got some tough games all dotted all over the map.

I wasn't blown away by the commanders either, but I baked that into how we feel about week one.

Like there's a lot to come and like this is a genuine challenge though, days away from here.

And I am coming from the Packers side because maybe it's a game where, like, Josh Jacobs absolutely must control the ball.

And you take, you do everything you can to keep the ball out of the hands of Jaden Daniels in that offense, especially late after what they did a number of times last year, where all they needed was one possession game to show his magic.

I, if the Packers win this and they win it in solid fashion, as they did last week, and I believe they will, I think this defense is a huge part of this team and the story of this team.

The hype around the Packers is going to become pretty tremendous.

To do what they've done back, if you can go beat these two teams in back-to-back weeks, everything around Jordan Love, everything around LaFleur, everything around the Packers is just going to amplify.

So I think it's important for them to come out against a very spicy opponent and prove that last week wasn't a mirage against a division opponent.

Here's what I'm dying to watch.

And in this game in particular, Abdul Carter

tied for the lead for pressures among rookie pass rushers last week, had almost as many pressures in that amount of snap time as Micah Parsons did in the amount of snap time that he had versus the Lions.

And the one thing that they did with Abdul Carter that I thought was really interesting was they kept putting, they put him over the center a couple times and not rushing the edge and just having him basically okey-doke the center because they know that maybe Jaden is a little bit less comfortable with pressure coming right through there.

That's a blueprint for Micah Parsons.

You can take him and you can do exactly the same thing the Giants were doing with Abdul Abdul Carter.

Yes, they flattened the Giants, but I did think there were moments when that pass rush flashed.

I do think that there's some breadcrumbs that they could pick up on and make Jaden uncomfortable.

You'd think that the Packers in this evening spot would love to cook up stuff to make it evident to everyone that trade was absolutely the right move for the Packers.

I don't think they need to convince anybody that that was the right move.

I don't mean convince, but like showcase them where it's like, wow, they know how to use him.

They're going to use him creatively, and he's going to create absolute problems for the commanders.

I'd like to see Washington, they absolutely dominated the Giants' offensive line, but who knows what that means because the Giants' offensive line was non-competitive in that game.

A couple of things that jumped out to me was some of the veteran guys on Washington look really good.

Zach Ertz can still move and make plays.

Debo looked like Debo, and that's a big deal.

Like, if he, if he is, because I kind of was from the mindset of like, that was a player in decline.

But the Debo that played against the Giants, he had

that quickness and that wiggle that

really could look very good in this Cliff Kings very offense.

So I have much more of an arrow up look at him after a real football game was played.

I mean, even Austin Eckler had a player.

I was like, wow, Austin Eckler still can move a little bit.

So

it's going to be a good one.

And just to

put a bow on it, this is how the NFL schedule works.

If the Packers can hold serve against two big-time teams to start the season, they're going to get a cupcake.

I didn't even have to look at it.

I just knew, oh, there's a cupcake next week after these two games.

They go to Cleveland next week.

So, and then they go to Dallas, and we'll see what Dallas is.

We don't know yet.

But, like, if they do handle their business here against the Commanders, and I'll pick the Packers in this one as well, they're going to be firing out of the gate at potentially 4-0 for their week five matchup against Cincinnati.

So, big game, big game for both teams.

All right.

Let's close the door on this one.

Hey, everybody.

Doc is back.

Hit it, Grady.

Let's go.

I had a car accident.

Eight years in my memory.

Higo.

Eight years.

For what it's worth, most of us would pay to forget the last eight years.

Comically.

I used to run this department

and now I'm an intern.

My ex-husband's having a baby with another woman and I have a really good man who loves some other version of me.

Without my memories, I'm trapped in time.

I need my life back.

Killing people is the thing that I love most.

I like that song.

A doc deep song.

Listen, every once in a while, a show comes along that gets repetitively played in ads while you're watching football on Sundays.

Doc has, I think, touched a nerve with all of us in a positive way.

Doe, taking a shot to the window, side window.

Oh, my favorite.

Banged up her head in a big spot.

She's trying to put her life back together.

Ratings were a little up and down, Connor, and season one.

Bang!

A little up and down, season one, the ratings, Connor.

But the finale tracked upwards, so it got picked up for a second season.

There are some differences.

If you watch the rest of that trailer, which I did multiple times, one of the chicks from Desperate Housewives has been imported in.

That was not cheap, but obviously they decided they needed to add some things to the cast, and I'm okay with that.

They're also building a little bit of a mystery involved, like some type of experimental procedure that Doc is going to undergo to get back her memories.

So there's a little bit of like, should I be doing this?

All while she's trying to reclaim her medical career when she was the best that there was.

So Doc Season 2 is something that I am just fired up about.

It was, as I think, the only person who watched a few episodes of Doc Season 1,

I can confidently say that it was one of the most ridiculous shows.

Yay.

Not here.

Not here, Connor.

You're talking to a,

my wife and I enjoyed it.

Yeah, we're talking to a doc head.

My wife and I enjoyed it, obviously a cable television fave at the house, but just the sheer audacity that she had to walk downstairs after a massive brain injury in like episode two, kick the door open into a hospital board meeting and demand to be reinstated as a medical doctor treating patients was one of the funniest things I've ever seen.

And it was a moment that we were supposed to have obviously have taken seriously.

So I'm fired up.

I'm ready for Doc.

Mark, this is all I have to say on this.

Your move, Matt Lock is a lady now.

Right.

Right.

There's a there's a little quiet on that front right now.

Inherent rivalry there.

Um, I went and looked at, by the way, it was an 11-episode run last year, and the ratings were up and down.

They're giving it 22 episodes in season 20.

That's a big pickup.

That's a big pickup.

And I went and looked at how the season ended because they apparently

They kind of came to the conclusion of some sort of mystery element that I'm not tracking.

But it said, because she's a little bit of a naughty person.

Yeah.

It said, and this is how the show wraps.

And then Dr.

Larson's secret boyfriend, Dr.

Heller, walks in on her.

She's making out a little bit with her ex-husband, who they didn't, she didn't realize it was her ex-husband at the beginning of the series, Dr.

Hamda,

dash, a situation that brings no joy to either Dr.

Heller or Dr.

Hamda's current wife.

I don't know what any of that means, but she's got a little bit of a naughty side to her.

Justin, who's the desperate housewives chick that they imported at great cost to add a little more juice, which

I'm in for.

Felicity Huffman?

Yeah, correct.

Yeah.

That's what got

in a big spot.

They got huffed.

No, that's correct because the TV guide article had a big break out on that.

And just one more thought: because

Matt Locke is a lady now is a big hit on CBS.

I'll throw this one out there

just as

a fan of

linear television.

How about if you could make Matt Locke a lady, how about murder he wrote?

Or if we want to be a little bit, depending where we, where we stream, maybe, murder they wrote.

If we just want to check some boxes.

Now you got me.

To check boxes.

All right, let's say goodbye with a thirst trap.

I mean, and this is one of the big thirst traps I've seen in some time on the internet.

I mean, take a look at this.

Mark Sessler posting this photo.

Check out the YouTube show.

And while you're there, make sure you subscribe.

I mean, if we needed a hook to get people to check in on the YouTube show, Maron.

I like how, Mark, do you have anything to say about this?

You look handsome.

For the people just listening, it's

he's looking

downward.

He's got sunglasses on.

He's got a tight, tight black jeans on and looking pensive.

And

of course, in black and white.

Go ahead, Mark.

Take it away.

I appreciate

the PR here.

This is for a very special project coming up.

This wasn't me just waltzing around town.

I took it right outside my apartment early in the morning.

Had not showered yet.

So

there's some things going on there.

Did you see my comment, by the way?

You know what the weird thing is?

I don't know what happened.

This is not particularly interesting, but around around eight o'clock last night

i can't see comments on any of my id posts and i've been looking it up and figure it out no no no like every single post it says no comments yet but i have a side instagram that must have been freaking freaking you out though because you posted a thirst trap and then if you you're like how could i have no comments on this i look so hot I can see that there's 32 comments or whatever it was, but then you click in, it's like, it won't allow me to go there.

And it says that something that I've done on Instagram might have agitated Instagram people.

And I was like, what did I do?

Well, my reply was now show the butt.

Right.

And I also use the peach emoji.

I also like the thing you did in the first line.

It's unclear if this person has ever read a book.

That's like when the girls post themselves in a bikinis and like doing like the kissy face.

And it's like, look how stupid we all look.

But it's really just like, look how hot we are.

Similar move there.

We know you read a lot of books, Mark.

It was a similar move.

At this point, I own a lot of books.

i don't

it was a similar move though caught you're a beautiful man mark never change

never change right back at you all right we'll be back uh late thursday early friday with the tnf recap of commanders packers then a full look um at week two as full as we want it to be week two preview uh coming up so make sure you're there for that uh really a positive show we got through a lot of stuff boxes were checked connor's balls are still in intact um his peen aisle situation has not been compromised i think this was a huge victory of a show from multiple angles yes

all right till next time do what you must heed the call

oh i'm tom brock connor's peen aisle situation is intact

pretty much the worst possible possible thanks for the worst possible timing i could have picked to drop this but since we hit it earlier in the show kyle shanahan says brock purdy is a long shot for week two.

And if you don't care, we can cut this because you already signed off.

No, no, we absolutely need that in the show.

Okay.

Well done.

Justin.

Well done.

Brock Purdy, a long shot to play.

Okay.

Well,

that means it is who is the backup up there right now?

Mac Jones, baby.

Oh, baby.

That's your boy.

And as I've said on our show, Mac Jones, he can't play quarterback, but he is fun to watch because he is is a real son of a bitch, that guy.

I love him.

He's going to agitate people.

He's going to attempt throws that he has no business attempting.

He's going to scramble for first downs and then get up in the grill of a linebacker who's just going to smirk at him and then crush him six plays later.

It is a fun, fun show with Mac Jones involved.

Let's go.

I thought the Tom Broca update was just talking about Connor's nuts still.

I also thought that that was the news, but

this worked too.

All right.

For real real this time.

Till tomorrow.

Heed the call.