Episode 573: Beer Store Tour

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Like the midnight and the rock and roll.

He's in a fight for wrestling soul.

Using a racket and some mind control.

He's Jim Cornette.

The keys to the future, held by the past.

And with tag team partner Barion Last, he sends this message out by podcast.

He's Jim Cornette.

Well, he's never fake a phony.

He never backs down from a fight.

He never wins the pony.

Cause his mama raised him right.

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Hello again, everybody, and welcome to another thrill-packed edition of the Jim Cornette Experience.

Today, Hulk Hogan makes children cry.

AEW's tournaments make me cry.

BET needs a black history lesson.

And the thing that I miss most about the pro wrestling, all that and more today.

And joining me.

Hawaiian Brian, the podcasting line, the king of the Arcadian Vanguard Podcast Network, Mr.

Co-HostU.

He narrowly missed having Hulk Hogan at his bar mitzvah.

The great Brian Last, everybody.

Aloha, Jim.

I never would have invited him to my bar mitzvah.

By 92, I was sick of Hogan.

92, I was 12 going into 13.

I was sick of Hogan.

But you know, I still get, there was some guy a week or two ago tweeting, and that Brian Last, he's such a mark.

Look who he had for his bar mitzvah.

Like you booked your bar mitzvah.

I know you've always been an enterprising businessman,

but and and you've you've got you're an inner energetic young fellow, but like you booked your and and arranged the entertainment and the treats and the eats and things, all the things that go into the bar mitzvah.

Well, first of all, if the comment was when I was 12, I was a mark, you're right.

I was a complete fucking mark.

I was 12.

It's called being 12, ladies and gentlemen.

You know, you haven't changed in 30 years.

I'm telling you.

You weren't smart to a business.

You were 12.

Yeah, that's exactly right.

Secondly, when I was 12, Vicious Vincent was on the radio on Long Island and it was tailored to kids.

And it was entertaining.

And he was booked to be entertainment at the bar mitzvah for the kids.

And it worked out.

And by the time I turned 13, the show did not have the same appeal as it had when I was 12.

Well, but also,

it was the, see, here's where the parallels between you and I keep coming.

And for those of you who don't know, ladies and gentlemen, Vicious Vincent, as he was then known, it's shit stain himself, was at young Brian Last Bar Mitzvah because while we found out that my fan club president is the one who introduced Vicious Vincent and his radio show to John Arezzi and started that whole plague.

Your bar mitzvah was the first time that Vince Russo could claim that he ever took money under false pretenses on the pretense of being a pro wrestling personality.

You're probably right.

You're probably right.

See, it's amazing.

It's like we created our own Lex Luthor and the Joker origin story are fucking.

Except they haven't had the success.

You know, they're more like the heels on the Superman TV series from the 50s.

It were all gangsters.

It hadn't figured out after seven seasons they couldn't just shoot Superman.

Why did they not

have any?

Superman was a character of DC Comics.

They had Jimmy Olson.

They had Perry White.

They had Lois Lane.

They had Superman and Clark Kent.

Why didn't they have any of the super villains?

None of them.

And apparently, if Richard Donner hadn't been fired before the finishing of Superman 2, and if it had gone on, they had other ideas for the Christopher Reeve version of

Superman, various villains that could have come in, but they never did it on the TV series.

When did you find out

when you first saw the TV series?

Did you see it in color or did you see the black and white version?

Well, I don't know for sure because

the first time that I saw the TV series, because it

folks, I'm old, but this series ran from, what was it, 1952 to 1957, maybe 51, 57, whatever.

First couple seasons in black and white, rest of it was in color because they wanted to take advantage of the merchandising.

There was a merchandising wave there, and it said, go ahead.

That was actually one of the smartest things.

If you really look at like TV history, they're producing the Superman show in the early and mid-50s.

They decided to start shooting in color, although no one had color TVs.

And color TV started getting out there by the end of the decade, but the networks didn't even go full color color until what, 66.

So

they preemptively knew the future was color, and no other shows were doing this.

They shot it.

Well,

the Lone Ranger.

Oh, Ranger crew, same thing.

True.

And they shot it all in color.

But nevertheless, you asked whether I saw the black and whites or the colors first.

The answer was, I don't know because I saw them in Cincinnati.

or off the Cincinnati TV station, WXIX Channel 19, the Independent station, when I was at Aunt Lola's, and she still had a black and white TV, and it was like 1969 or whatever.

So

there you go.

And it was a black and white TV sitting on top of a console bigger screen TV that had been dead for the past fucking five or six years that was from the 50s, just like everybody had back then.

But it was a black and white with the rabbit ears.

And Petey, her parakeet, used to go go and fly and sit on the rabbit ears.

Sometimes he would help the reception.

That's where I saw the Sheiks TV, too.

Han Schmidt was ugly, even in black and white.

Did it look like that TV

from the author of the Charles?

The back of the book of the midget fish.

Yes, my favorite thing in the world now.

Yeah, we're gonna talk about Charlie Fisher later on, too, again.

But anyway, here at the top of the program, so that we can recover and keep positive,

I want to thank everybody again, for me and for Stacey, because we've just, again, since I said it a couple weeks ago, we've still gotten some cards and letters and presents,

remembering Harley Quinn.

And some people did custom art with her name or picture involved or both or whatever.

We've saved all the cards and the letters and we've saved all the presents, the gifts, but

with everything going on, a couple of some of them, they got separated.

So I don't know who sent what, but I specifically,

we had in the same place, I want to thank Garth and Heather.

And they didn't put their last name on the letter, but for the wind spinner that they sent, and

Dave and Ray Cooper.

And that's not twin brothers.

Ray has an E on the end of it.

So I think she's a lady.

She's a lady.

They sent a glass of crystal glass heart with a picture of me and harley not engraved but i don't know the process incorporated inside of it with a stand with colored lights and etc and and

stacy has that and another plaque that somebody sent on her nightstand there and jason ingraham who's been

A member of the cult cornet for I don't know how long, sent you a beautiful letter and some pictures of his daughter Sarah, who passed away, unfortunately, a little while back, just a short while back with their pup Annie, little orphan Annie.

And I want to thank him and

everybody else that sent some things.

But

anyway,

did you hear about the big news in Louisville, Brian, this week?

Oh, no.

You guys had news?

Oh, for God's sake.

I mean, I haven't heard anything about it.

This is one of the most teeming metropolises.

We have movie premieres here now.

We have a horse race every May, you might have heard of.

No, Junior Bridgman.

Paz, do you recognize that?

You're a baseball fan.

Do you recognize the name Junior Bridgman, not in your sport wheelhouse?

I do not.

Well, then that's why you're relegated to being a fan of the

Mets or the Jets or whoever the fuck it is.

It's the Mets.

It's never the Jets.

Well, I thought it was Benny and the Jets.

That's a song, but the Jets are a team that I do not associate with.

Well, they always spoke highly of you.

Anyway, Junior Bridgman died this past week at the Gold House downtown.

Apparently,

some type of heart attack or some he was there and boom, he was gone.

But Junior Bridgman was one of the

first star players.

When Denny Crumb moved to Louisville from California, he'd been John Wooden's assistant coach at UCLA

and started in the early 70s, started putting together the big teams.

Junior Bridgman was one of the first star Cardinals players.

So he was a legend in this town at that point.

But he...

I think he was top 10 in the NBA draft and played like 10 years for the Milwaukee Bucks and then moved back to Louisville and started buying businesses and became a self-made billionaire.

This guy legitimately, Shaquille O'Neal was on

one of the sports talk programs said, yes, I learned everything I know about being a businessman from

Junior Bridgman.

He had like 500 fast food franchises, a fucking international Coca-Cola bottling fucking deal.

He just bought part of the Milwaukee Bucks,

just for old time's sake.

And he was one of the biggest philanthropists in town.

He had given millions and millions of dollars to all these

programs or hospitals or, you know, whatever in Louisville.

So everybody's like, oh, shit.

But can you, from a

college basketball player that did not come from a wealthy background to being a fucking billionaire the hard way.

And

what did we talk about here a while back, Brian?

If you had a billion dollars, what would you do with it?

He actually gave a bunch of it away.

Because what the fuck do you need with that much money?

Didn't I do the math and prove that if you had a billion dollars, you could cure cancer, feed hungry children to help fucking abused animals, give all of your, make 20 of your friends millionaires, pay all the taxes, and still have more money than you could ever fucking spend.

You may have said stuff.

I don't agree with you.

I think if I can get a billion dollars, I could use that in a lot of ways.

I don't have to give it away to anyone.

Give it away.

Get out of here.

Give it away.

Give it away now.

Give it away.

Give it away.

Give it away now.

You found someone more out of pitch than Anthony Keatus.

How about that?

It's Jim Cornette.

Yeah, dude.

why, why,

why, if you had that much money?

The last library for creative research.

I want that to be the right looking building, and it really needs to be spectacular and gigantic right there alone, depending on where I put it, the property taxes.

That could be a billion dollars.

What was that?

The creative research center that you're naming the last library, the last library for creative research.

yes well meanwhile i'm just thinking boy i ought to get that sliding door on the deck

well we're going to have sliding doors in the gym cornet wing for the big exhibit uh but we're also going to have exhibits apparently at the library see we're yes we're coming up with all sorts of revolutionary ideas on the fly this is how we do it here

I got to go down to the library and see some of the exhibits, and then I'll go to the museum and read a book.

Well, that's one of the reasons I need such size in the building is because it'll be a museum and library.

And

if I'm putting my name on it, you know it's going to be top tier and it's going to be the greatest experience for anyone who's ever been to a library.

So it's going to take a lot of money, a lot of money.

What?

Are they going to be able to immerse themselves in a book?

Like, are you going to have a giant book that they flip the cover open and just jump into?

And suddenly they're in the story.

You know, everything that's happening to the main character is happening to them, which when you got to the fucking adult reading section might be enjoyable.

I hadn't thought of that idea, but we're willing to recognize good ideas, even if they come from outside of our executive circle.

That's a great idea.

And I think the budget just went up.

So there you have it, folks.

Brian Lass is going to commit a billion dollars to get you virtually fucked.

Hey, Tony, if you're listening, I'm accepting donations.

I'm accepting donations.

towards the building and the Hanukkah Pizza Fund.

Can we work out a way where they're deductible as a charitable organization for all of his fans that have to be virtually fucked because they can't be legitimately fucked?

Tony, from one not-for-profit to another, please send some money.

Just bouncing back and forth between those companies that aren't being run for a profit.

Speaking of something that's not being run for a profit, folks, hurry up while time is available and see the queen of the ring in theaters near you.

because

you want to experience the immersive

big screen effect.

As a matter of fact,

in some theaters, they are now showing Queen of the Ring in Feel Around,

where every time that someone puts a hold on in the wrestling match on the screen, One of the theater employees behind your seat will reach around and grab you, probably

depending on what gender you are in the upper area of your body.

Well, listen, let's just, we don't want to hurt the ticket sales.

That's not the goal of what we're doing here.

So let's

not say that that's going to be a thing that's going to happen.

Actually, in conjunction with what I was just talking about, I think some people are buying, expecting that service.

Well, there are no guaranteed reach arounds, but you will see around and you will see this movie.

Why am I doing a plug?

It's your thing.

You go.

You'll see.

You'll see around before it sees you around at Queen of the Ring and theaters now.

And

Brian, again, I've conquered now.

I've conquered the moving pictures, as Aunt Lola used to say.

And now I'm also conquering television because as soon as the motion pictures go from theaters on television, debuts, Dark Side of the Ring,

Tuesday, March 25th at 10 o'clock Eastern Time, and then Subtract an hour as you move farther to the west on Vice TV.

And we talked to Evan Husney from Darkside and we previewed him.

Those clips are on the YouTube channel, or you can, I'm sure we will be discussing each one as they occur in a weekly fashion, but a heck of a lineup this year and

include, I just want to see what they do with the

old footage of the chic and the other.

hysterical figures.

Superstar Billy Graham is going to be fun to see some more of him.

And

then then

what's next after television?

We've got podcasts and we did movies, TV.

What medium am I missing?

You know, maybe next year for the next season of Dark Sykes, they're running out of topics.

Maybe they could start exhuming bodies and just seeing who's still there and who isn't.

Do you think that some people may have escaped the grave?

And we wouldn't find them if we went to dig them up.

I don't know, but we're talking about the sheik then.

Let's find out about the sheik now.

How was he buried?

What was he wearing?

Does he have his headdress?

Was he buried in his headdress?

I forgot what Brian Solomon wrote in his book.

I believe he was.

I believe he was.

And the minister, reverend, pre, whatever the

category was, called him sheik through the whole ceremony, except he called him by his name once and then chic through the rest of the ceremony.

But I would think that if we dug anybody up,

the only one that would look the same way he did when he was buried would be Rick Knox.

Rick Knox?

Oh, the referee.

I forgot who you were talking about.

The referee.

Which dead guy is he talking about?

The only one I can think of that looked the same as when he died as he does, you know, now would be.

But anyway, Brian, you know,

before we get started with the program here,

I forgot to mention that the merchandise sale for March, March merch,

the March to March merch is going on now at jimcornet.com, where that fine,

incredibly produced and slick paper, and bold colors, and wonderful writing, and et cetera, graphic novel behind the curtain is on sale for $19.95 this month.

And

if you buy any action figure or tag team set, you get a free two-hour classic wrestling DVD from the Wrestling Gold series.

And of course,

all of these things can be personally autographed to your specifications.

And, you know, Brian, I always say

that I will write anything if you wanted me to cuss somebody out for you or whatever you want, blah, blah, blah.

I had to turn two down at Christmastime.

There's always two in every crowd that wanted me to write

something positive about their Trumpiness or the Trump himself

and i had to i gave the first one a chance to okay get serious and they sent something else but i just refunded the second one automatically because it was so overly praiseworthy of shitler and told hotchkiss to block them so they can't buy anything else But I will write inappropriate things.

That'll teach them.

If necessary.

That's where I don't want any contact with that person

trying to fucking pull some shenanigans.

But I did.

I'll have you know that one person over Christmas time wanted me to write fuck Brian last.

And I did.

But I changed the exclamation point

to a question mark where it became fuck Brian last.

And see, and then there you go.

Well, honestly, honestly, shouldn't I get a cut of that one?

Let me mark that down.

Hold on.

Can you hear my pin clicking?

Well, good.

Then my noise filter is not filtered out my pin clicking so that I can click it down.

Send Brian Bupkiss.

Wow.

And Brian Bupkiss is not a photographer from the Detroit area.

I thought you were talking about the football player Dick Bupkiss.

No,

he was actually Brian Bupkiss's cousin, but he made good.

He got out of the small town and made good in the football.

Was it a woman?

Was it a woman who said fuck Brian last?

Was it a woman?

Did she write a question mark?

No, it was a man and he wrote an exclamation point.

I believe he has some, obviously some jealousy issue.

Probably wanting to be sitting where you are now.

Oh, this chair within the magnitude of me.

This chair is not that great.

That has nothing to do with the magnitude.

It's the chair, the swivel.

Well, this little chair of mine, I'm going to make it shine.

All right, we're going to talk.

Oh, don't start trying to accompany me now.

For heaven's sake, you know, don't, you're not just tickling the ivories over there.

That was a tickle, but it's your show.

It's going great so far.

It's going great so far.

I don't know if that was a tickle or a taunt, but I'm trying to start the show.

If you'd quit fiddling with your organ over there,

because we got an email, remember what it was several weeks back.

I don't know.

I've lost track of time.

It could have been months.

Who knows?

But we got a question about

Charles Midget Fisher from

Milwaukee, Wisconsin.

But he was the question said that I believe he was from Butternut, Wisconsin, or whatever the fuck.

That's right.

And we thought, is this a goddamn rib?

And I believe we laughed at it, right?

To some extent.

But come to find out, but the thing is that we were

trying to think of, for one thing, small people,

but also this goes way back.

There was a Charles Midget Fisher

and a Santa Claus, Victoria.

there was a charles midget fisher

uh

but he he his heyday was the 20s and 30s

and not being of the notoriety of the strangler lewises and etc

we weren't thinking about charles midget fisher

So see,

in the vast history of wrestling,

did you heard of him?

I hadn't heard of him either.

And after the show, I went to look through the files and I went through the midget files, thinking it would be there.

The email we got didn't say anything about him being a heavyweight or in that, you know, wrestling heavyweights or anyone above, it just said midget.

It just said midget.

Well,

he wasn't a heavyweight, but he did wrestle somewhat above his weight class.

But he was so far back that they did have in those days.

And this was the way Roy Welch and Nick Gulis got Nashville was the other promoter had been featuring the heavyweights.

And

Scott Teal's research, thankfully, we know these things, CrowbarPress.com, folks.

But Nick and Roy came in.

Roy had the light heavyweights.

The guys, because as Roy was, 190 pounds.

But in those days,

that wasn't as small for athletes as it seems in modern times.

But the light heavyweights would a lot of times have more action, et cetera.

And they sometimes would win out if you didn't have top-quality heavyweights or a good promotion opposite it.

And that's apparently Charles Midget.

I

ran into his goddamn name when

I was looking up something else for something else I'm doing, if that's clear enough.

And Charles Midget Fisher wrestled in Louisville at the Louisville Gardens, which was then the Armory in like 1936.

Because he obviously

out of the Midwest.

So

anyway,

yes, Virginia, there was a Charles Midget Fisher.

And we got an email

from Adam Smith of East Yorkshire, England,

who has researched this thing out to Yin Yang.

And I will read it here

because his research project was looking at the career of Wild Beer.

Wild Beer.

wild bill longsen oh that should be a micro brew wild beer longsen

wild beer longsen wild bill longsen and his popularization of the pile driver

and while he was doing that

he had uncovered this information the topic of who invented the pile driver in professional wrestling is a matter debated amongst historians In the modern day, Bill Longson is often credited as being the innovator of the move.

And whilst this is incorrect, he was certainly the professional wrestler responsible for the wider popularization of the move.

But the first noted use of the pile driver occurred January 5th, 1931, by Charles Midgett Fisher in Kansas City, Missouri.

Fisher was a claimant to the World Middleweight Championship.

On the show, he had defeated sailor Jack Woods in 34 minutes with a

quote-unquote pile drive.

And

apparently, Kenneth R.

Bones,

Bones,

there's two S's on the end of it,

who pinned Charlie Fisher's biography, Pile Driver, the Life of Charles Midget Fisher, which you may have a comment on.

later explained that in his research for the book, he had spoken extensively with Charles's son, who had explained that the move was markedly different from what modern modern fans would recognize as a pile driver.

The Fisher pile driver

would see the opponent's head clamped between Fisher's thighs.

Fisher would then only partially lift the opponent's feet off the, at least his floor, but the mat,

and then quickly, quote unquote, flick out his feet, sending the opponent's head crashing into the canvas.

And let's stop there for a second, Brian.

But

this makes sense for something we're going to hear in the second paragraph.

But

this, it does add because Bill Longson was

certainly not pile driving anybody in 1931, but we will come to find out why he might have seen it done.

So it's all, there's, there's always

of

you never can invent anything that isn't really a takeoff anymore, as Gomer Powell would say.

I guess that's my point.

You know, and there's always these mysteries about so many of the things that are commonplace in wrestling and have been for

50, 60 years, whatever now.

We really don't know where they started.

We assume,

you know, Danny McShane may have invented the blade, but maybe that's not a fair assumption.

We've always,

I will say, I assumed Wild Bill Longson was one of the first people to use the pile driver just because he is the name that everyone associates with it, going back to the 40s,

but he must have seen something somewhere.

And you brought up Buddy Rogers,

not even about this, about something else recently, about his, about the crisscross.

That's what it was, about his ability to see things and pick up on what other people were doing and apply it to his own work.

Well, Rogers is about to come into this, too.

So

Adam continues, and here's where this starts to make sense.

While Fisher's version of the move lacked the theatrical nature that would later be associated to the application of the pile driver, he had brought the move into pro wrestling.

The pile driver was further popularized by one of Fisher's adversaries in the ring, the Great Mephisto.

And this isn't Frankie Kane, the Great Mephisto.

This is the guy that actually Frankie Kane stole the name, the Great Mephisto, from.

This was another guy that was

a light, heavyweight at best in the day, the pioneer days of the 30s.

And Frankie Kane in his first book, Scott Teal CrowbarPress.com,

Raising Kane,

goes into great detail about

this guy and how he was one of the great workers.

And I will prep, before we go back to this paragraph, I'll preface this by saying when guys in that era

are talked about as being great workers, it's not that they were doing moonsaults or executing these, you know, goddamn stunning revolutionary moves.

They talk about them being great workers as far as the ability to not only draw a crowd, but captivate a crowd and have a match that was different than the normal shit that people saw that took them a step up in terms of, oh my gosh, they're into it or the the peaks and valleys, the roller coaster ride, and making their shit look good and different.

That's the type of

thing that they compliment great workers.

And

Adam continues, Mephisto was born Julius John Waronic

on the 4th of December, 1910 in Meriden, Connecticut.

And

he goes into some history on him, and he has annotated all these with newspaper attributions, which I'm not going to go into, but I've heard the stories before of the great Mephisto.

He was in trouble and in jail when he was a teenager, and he was in a near-fatal car wreck.

But finally, in 1928, he becomes a wrestler, and his first known appearance as Mephisto occurred in Boston at the Mechanics Hall on April 6, 1932.

And he ended up being a popular attraction for the promoter.

There he attracted 6,000 to Fenway Park to watch him beat Art Flynn in August 1932.

Well,

the Great Mephisto worked for Owl, not even the previous,

the pre-OWL half territory out of Columbus in the mid-30s.

And

in March 1935, the Great Mephisto first encountered Charlie Fisher in the Music Hall Sports Arena in Cincinnati, Ohio.

And the match lasted 20 seconds and ended when Fisher executed the pile driver on Mephisto.

By that summer, two or three months later, Mephisto was using the pile driver to win his matches.

And it was then

touted as his signature hold.

Mephisto not only was so good that he attracted Frankie Kane, who was growing up and starting to become aware of the business at that time,

but also Nature Boy Buddy Rogers has said before that Mephisto was the greatest in-ring worker that ever lived.

And Rogers is some of his early formative years were in Ohio.

And if you go back and Brian, now you'll think about this because you can visualize what they're saying because Rogers

did a pile driver more like this than he did a normal,

not a not even a modern day pile driver, but a Bill Longson pile driver.

He would grab the guy either by the ass of the tights or just, you know, around the waist, but he would sit down real quick.

It was more of a, just a quick leaping motion boom rather than a pickup and a drop.

And you've seen that in a number of the matches that Rogers used.

Yeah.

So he had to get it

from,

you know, a guy who pretty much got it from the source.

And

according to Adam, once again, with this, again, all kinds of research to back it up, by the fall of 1937, the move had come to the attention of Wow Bill Longshan, and he would use it for, as his trademark for the rest of his life.

But even though there's not that much Longson out there,

the publicity pictures

that he had taken of him,

you know, you've seen him with him with a guy up in the pile driver position has him picking a guy all the way straight up.

So anyway,

the midget strikes again.

Well, I got the biography.

I'm going to try to find a way to read it.

I have a lot of books to get caught up on, and this is a big one.

I sent you a picture of the back cover of the book.

Yes.

It's the greatest photo of an author I've ever seen.

because he clearly chose it himself.

And this is what he wanted to share with the world.

And

again, I just'm puzzled by the choice, but I love it.

It's my favorite thing about the book.

I haven't read it yet.

Well, we, yes, we do, we don't know the author, so we're not trying to, but it's just an odd,

odd choice.

And it's worth the price of the book alone to see the picture.

It's not even in focus, fellow, it's not even in focus.

Oh, it's in focus enough.

It's uh,

but Adam, we thank you from East

Yorkshire, England, who, you know, it's a shame that the folks over in the UK have to do our research, that we're, we've, we've lost out on this, that all this stuff happened in Connecticut and Ohio and Minneapolis and places like that.

And they got it's got to come from East Yorkshire.

Where are our domestic historians when we need them?

And most of them may be limp.

The problem is we need a really good book and a really good history of Ohio, and that hasn't really been done yet because people probably lose sight on for how long that was a powerhouse for wrestling, how many guys were booked out of Ohio, how successful things were in Ohio, because it went away pretty early.

It went away.

I mean, since when did Ohio go away?

Early 60s, mid-60s?

And then, you know, guys

ran there and brought it back at times, but in terms of it being a powerhouse in wrestling.

Well, see, it didn't as much go away as it got split up because

in those days and especially with al Haft in Columbus and him being a powerful promoter and centrally located, you know, Ohio to the various Midwestern and Northeastern states and even the Mid-Atlantic states,

you know, but once that,

you know, he

faded by the wayside and

Cincinnati became part of the Sheiks territory.

Well, Cincinnati firstly was taken over by Barnett

in the late 50s, along with the rest of the Sheiks territory and Bruisers, what would become Sheiks and Bruisers territory.

But Columbus

kind of went in that direction, but Cleveland got taken by the Northeastern Buffalo Circuit.

So they started, you know, when Al Haft lost his power and pull and business,

they started,

you know,

annexing the territories adjacent, you know, different towns in Ohio, and even

some of the towns in the lower part of Ohio

and West Virginia were part of the WWF for a while.

So it did, and then the Pittsburgh territory was around for a while.

It was part of that.

So it just kind of got all split up

is the answer to the question.

that I think you asked, because it's been so long since I started rambling.

It's been a while.

Hey, did you walk off away from me?

You're echoing.

No, I was grabbing something back here because I actually just got it.

You brought up Pittsburgh.

This is a tri-state wrestling TV stars booklet/slash magazine.

Rogers on the cover with the belt.

So, this is, I'm going to say, 63.

Joseph Tutzmont, Secretary Treasurer of Pennsylvania Wrestling Inc.

and Pittsburgh's promoter.

Vincent McMahon.

Wait, I can believe Secretary.

would you make Tutzmont the treasurer of anything?

No.

Vincent McMahon, president of Pennsylvania Wrestling Inc.

and promoter in Washington, D.C.

Fred Kohler, vice president of Pennsylvania Wrestling Inc.

and promoter in Chicago.

And finally, Gene Dargan, an associate promoter.

of Pennsylvania Wrestling Inc.

in the tri-state area.

And the first article here is about our renaissance of wrestling.

Live action on channel 11.

And then also, I have here: is this the one that has

this came out like a year later?

Listen to this title history.

You ready?

I'll start in 42 with Bill Longson.

Uh-oh.

Bill Longson defeated Sabo.

Yvonne Robert defeated Longson.

Bobby Manigoff defeated Robert.

Bill Longson defeated Manigoff.

Now we're in 47.

Whipper Billy Watson defeated Longson.

Lou Fez defeated Watson.

Longson defeated Fez.

Fez defeated Longson.

Whipper Billy Watson defeated Fez.

56.

Lou Thez defeats Watson.

Dick Hutton defeats Fez.

Pat O'Connor defeated Hutton.

Buddy Rogers defeated Pat O'Connor.

Bruno San Martino defeated Buddy Rogers.

So this pretends that the WWF title history is from the NWA title history, which obviously goes pre-NWA there.

I, I, I,

well, but because it and later on, Bruno would own that

territory.

And

they would mostly consider themselves for the next,

what, 50 years, either a WWF town or WWF adjacent with Bruno's promotion used a lot of the same

talent,

even though he had his guys.

So

they had kind of annexed

that part of the country there.

You know, someone recently sent us a last thing on any of this, even though this loosely relates to it.

Hank Garrett, the actor, and I think he may have been a stunt man.

Oh, yes, I saw that.

I saw that.

But go ahead.

Well, he wrestled apparently also, and he teamed up at Lenny, Montana.

He had some stories about that.

But he was asked, I think it was Gilbert Gottfried's show.

They asked him, how did you become a wrestler?

And he's like, I was working at a gym and I met this guy, Tutsmont,

and he said, you should be a wrestler and i said okay he goes you're the minnesota farm boy and that was my gimmick they just gave me this gimmick tootsmont giving out gimmicks

this guy was from like the bronx

the minnesota farmboy

but you know

now see that's that's an experience he's from harlem i looked it up i looked it up he's from harlem that's an experience you couldn't pay for He got his gimmick personally from Tootsmont, who pretty much invented fucking gimmicks.

Yeah,

that may have been one of the last gimmicks he actually came up with when you think about it.

Well,

no wonder, because it didn't go anywhere

because we didn't even know that this fucking actor was a wrestler until he revealed it 50 years later.

It's a closely guarded secret.

So

I'm surprised it wasn't a Jack Pfeffer.

He was Officer Nicholson on Car 54.

Where are you?

Son of a bitch.

But that that means he's got to be

93.

I was about to say he's got to be 90 years old minimum.

All right.

Well, who knows?

It may have been Jack Pfeffer.

He just, he might not remember which guy was which.

I don't know.

You know, because he probably doesn't get enough sleep, Brian.

Why would you say that?

Just because of his age?

Well, he's old.

He's got, he's up probably every 30 minutes going to take a piss.

Well, I'd like to think of it the other way.

I I think maybe he gets a lot of sleep.

He gets so much sleep, he feels good and he probably needs some support, the right kind of support, the right kind of mattress.

Trying to keep this on track early on.

No, no, no.

I thought I think, see, here's the problem.

Problem is that he was screwed around by Toots Mont.

He can't afford.

He's been sleeping on soup cans.

His last hit was Car 54.

Where are you?

That was 1963.

Was it his last hit?

There's a holdup in the Bronx.

Brooklyn's broken out in fights.

There's a traffic jam in Harlem that's backed up to Jackson Heights.

Anyways,

keep short a child.

Cruise ships do it.

Idle wild.

Car 54, where old.

Where are you?

All right.

Anyway, see, that's why he's sleeping on bags of soup cans in an alleyway because his last hit was...

That was before residuals.

So he can't.

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You know, the children.

The children could get their own mattress from Helix.

As a matter of fact, Charles Midget Fisher could have got one of the kids' mattresses and he probably would have lived longer.

No, first of all, let's take a step back.

First of all, he was an adult, so he probably could have fit on a regular size mattress, even though he was called the Midget.

But secondly, we can't say that he would have lived longer,

but maybe he would have had more comfort during his years.

Well, during his final hours, he could have just drifted off peacefully instead of those horrible screams of pain.

Oh, my God, when he, because when he died, he was sleeping on barbed wire, because that's all they had back then.

That's not what they had.

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And then he died.

Again, this nothing to do with the mattress.

And the mattress wasn't even there because Helix was just a twinkle in the eye of Mr.

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You don't want that to happen, do you?

Again,

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We shouldn't

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Well,

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Don't get any on your new mattress, folks.

But anyway,

Brian, have you ever milked the cows early in the morning?

I have never milked a cow, no.

You've never milked a cow.

No, we really didn't do that on Long Island too often.

There were a lot of dairy farms, but it wasn't something that us kids did for fun.

Well,

you know,

that's why you were down the road from the dairy farms.

You should have got into the dairy life and become a dairy person.

Dairy life.

At the end of the dairy life where you live on the dairy farm and you milk the dairy cows for the dairy products that are sold in the dairy store.

And every morning you wake up and you smell that dairy air.

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Now, they're not just going to give you two free pillows and 20% off unless you buy something.

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That's a fair trade.

Wouldn't you say, Brian, it's a fair, it's a

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What's a fair trade?

You give them money and they give you 20% off and free pillows.

That sounds like a good deal.

I wouldn't call it a trade.

I would call it a wonderful deal.

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We love them here.

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Well, let's just call that a deal.

Again, why use these terms that necessarily,

or that don't necessarily have a good connotation on them?

Well, because I'm a small town bird lawyer and I'm going to make it sound all

complicated.

I thought you said Louisville was a booming metropolis.

They are.

Once we try to keep these big city folks out out and maintain our small town birds, then I can still be a small town bird lawyer.

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And let's now get that wonderful promo code

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J-C-E

helixleep.com.

Yes, I said that already.

Well, this is your show.

Well, Brian, before we go any further, I've got breaking news from the real world, and justice has been served apparently down in South Florida.

Tamarack, Florida.

You've been to Florida in the past.

I've seen signs for Tamarack.

I'm not sure where Tamarack is.

It's probably somewhere in the middle part of the state.

Yeah, I'm not sure.

South Florida.

No, it says South Florida.

So it's the southern part of the state.

Anyway,

I just want to read this because I want you to know how happy these people must be.

A family has received closure several years after a frightening incident that took place after a visit to a McDonald's in Tamarack, Florida.

The fast food chain was ordered to pay the family $800,000 in damages after their daughter was burned by an an unreasonably hot chicken McNugget.

Unreasonably in quotation marks.

She was burned on her tongue.

Where was she burned?

Well, back in 2019, the child's mother, Philana Holmes, purchased happy meals.

Is that an NXT name?

Is that a real person?

Oh, I think it might be a poor name.

It is South Florida.

Purchased happy meals for herself and her then four-year-old daughter, Olivia Caraballo.

So, Audubon, here is a mother purchasing a happy meal, not only for her child, but for herself.

Upon receiving her drive-through order, Holmes handed one of the meals to her daughter.

But shortly afterwards, one of the McNuggets, which was said to be, quote, unreasonably and dangerously hot,

became stuck in the child's car seat and burned her leg,

causing second-degree burns.

I have comments on this.

Would you like to hear them?

Second-degree burns from a lone chicken nugget against the leg?

That's what they're saying?

Well, that's what they're saying.

But here's besides that, this woman has got two happy meals.

She's got a four-year-old kid in a fucking car seat, and she hands the happy meals to the kid.

I don't trust Stacy with my bag of fast food that it won't, she holds it, it won't turn over and spill my fries.

She's giving the meal to her child.

And then apparently her child

started digging and rooting around in the bag and dropped the nugget on herself.

But here's the second part of it that I either don't believe or I'm having considerable consternation with.

I haven't gotten a hot chicken McNugget in the last 30 years.

How the fuck do they get one hot enough to burn somebody when I can't get one hot enough to fucking,

it doesn't taste like roofing tile?

I guess you got to get it right away, right out of the drive-thru window.

That's the secret.

Well, and then apparently, this kid hadn't been eating for the past few weeks or whatever because she fucking goes in it like a raccoon invading your vacation cabin's garbage to get this fucking

chicken nugget.

Why are you attacking the kid?

A kid's

a happy meal.

It's a happy meal.

If I got a happy meal when I was a kid, I'm diving in for the toy.

I mean, knock fries and nuggets all over the place.

Well, if it makes you happy, then why does it burn so bad?

Awful.

Awful.

But then let me just explain to you this, folks.

In May.

Please explain away.

Explain away, please.

This is a frightening incident that happened to these people.

In May 2023, a jury found that McDonald's and the franchise owners were at fault for the incident.

And in July, a jury was tasked with deciding how much they thought the family should receive in damages of the $15 million

the family asked for.

They were granted $800,000 by the jury.

And the mother said, I'm just actually happy that they listened to Olivia's voice and the jury was able to decide a fair judgment.

I'm happy with it.

800 grand for a fucking and a free order chicken nugget and two happy meals.

i'd be happy but she also expressed her hope that mcdonald's will eventually offer some kind of warning for parents when it comes to hot food

i i'm i have never been served anything at a fast food restaurant In the way of food, I can see the hot coffee argument, but in the way of food, have you ever been served anything unless you stuck your hand in the deep fryer to pull the fucking fucking French fries out.

Have you ever been served anything that would cause you a serious burn?

Again, I've never had McDonald's coffee.

I've had hot french fries, but never one that I thought, this is so hot it may burn my skin.

Hopefully, she says, they'll put warning signs on the nugget boxes so parents will know.

Hey, parents, the food at McDonald's is cooked.

That would cover the whole thing

but nevertheless that's big news there i didn't hear that that's crazy what did you think when the coffee thing happened years ago that was a while ago obviously well

that it was nice there's a footnote here it was 1994 and it was an elderly woman who was scalded and when you think about it you're boiling in affect

coffee

so that yeah that's like fucking pouring hot water on somebody if the tops the lids of these things that's why i never never get drinks and combos because I have my own drink that I can control rather than their flimsy fucking cups, their ill-fitting tops and their meager straws.

But with McDonald's, isn't the thing that they actually do Coca-Cola, they're the only ones in the entire world that do it exactly the way Coca-Cola tells you to do it to make it taste perfect?

I don't give a shit.

My

canned sprite directly out of my goddamn cooler in the back of my truck when I used to travel and go to fast food places was ice cold and not diluted with whatever local water was

being pissed in by raccoons or dumped in by a fucking factory.

All right.

You're there.

You go.

I guess so.

You never thought about it.

You never thought about getting it on tap at Castle Cornette Sprite?

Well, no, because it, once again, it's just, you know, three or four flats

from the distributor and in my pantry closet there, and I'm fine for a week or two.

No reason to get fancy.

But speaking of

sad things and or depressing items, what is this I hear about Hulk Hogan making children cry, Brian?

Yeah, in the last day or so, a number of people have sent this in.

I have a few different things here.

Let me click on this article.

This is from News 12, The Bronx.

Kids were crying.

Does the Bronx have its own television station now?

Well, News 12, The Bronx.

That's for Bronx Cable.

News 12 is owned by, well, it used to be Cable Vision.

Now it's whatever, Optimum.

But it was owned by them.

So wherever they had Cable Vision, you got News 12.

And then they tried to make it a big selling point.

Like, if you get Direct TV or something, you won't get News 12.

But no one gave a shit.

But News 12, the bronze it's it's it's just cable news yeah

it's just a place to eat up a bunch of local emmys

like if you want to like do something to boost your ego before you try to make it an nbc or something but news 12 the bronx kids were crying hulk hogan accused of leaving fans stranded

at beer tour event in montgomery in montgomery alabama uh i don't

worry about montgomery where montgomery orange county new New York.

I didn't even know there was a Montgomery, New York, but the people are stranded there, so now it's getting some attention.

Some disappointed Hulk Hogan fans say they were turned away empty-handed last week after standing in line and waiting for hours for a promised meet-and-greet with the entertainment icon in Orange County.

Orange is one of the colors that Hulk Hogan doesn't have a problem with.

Let's hear.

We have some audio here from News 12, The Bronx.

Yes, make sure we play these award-winning Emmy artists here.

Let's go to this.

Some disappointed Hulk Hogan fans say that they were turned away empty-handed last week after waiting for hours for a promised meet and greet with the entertainment icon in Orange County.

Our Blaise Gomez tells us why from Montgomery, one of the towns that the superstar has toured.

I was there with my son and daughter.

It was an exciting day, especially for my son.

A super fan's dream.

It said that, you know, he could only see up to number 200.

We were 185.

Turned into a disaster for 42-year-old Robert Taylor and his two young kids last Wednesday.

You're the worst.

Why did you do that?

We're not badass.

Was that the kids cussing at Hulk Hogan?

Yeah, the worst.

It's apparently from the car right after they got turned away.

It's the two kids in the backseat.

I'm guessing the father filming them, giving a message to Hulk Hogan.

And that was the two kids commenting on that.

Jimmy Hart's in these photos.

So he was there.

Oh, poor Jimmy.

Again, he's now

wherever he appears, he gets residual heat because people are so mad at his balding icon of a friend there.

But I got an idea.

We'll get everyone to forget about LA.

We'll go on a beer tour.

No one will talk about that anymore.

They were only going to see 200 people.

Now, that doesn't sound like a lot for a big star, but when you think about it,

if he spent a minute with everybody, it'd still be three and a half hours.

I assume he's probably not spending a minute with everybody.

But

at the same time,

you know, you've got to expect when you agree to do one of these things, there's going to be a halfway decent sized crowd show up.

I mean, maybe I don't know with him anymore.

So you would think they would be prepared and they wouldn't be just cutting it off like that and leaving everybody hanging, but do go on.

Let's go back to this report from News 12 The Bronx by Blaise Gomez.

What a great name that is.

Back to the kids upset with Hulk Hogan.

Dad says they waited four hours with a promise to see their WWE idol, Hulk Hogan, at ShopRide in Montgomery, only for the superstar to allegedly leave mid-event.

It was really quick.

They just stood up all the whole group and bolted towards the back.

Some lady was, you know, pretty upset, screaming and cursing.

My son starts, you know, hysterically crying.

A bunch of other kids are crying.

Hogan had a busy schedule and didn't just stop here.

Hogan toured about a half a dozen locations in the Hudson Valley to promote his new beer brand that looked wild.

Let me pause this for a second because they showed him at another shop right, apparently, which is a supermarket chain up here in the northeast.

And then they showed him seemingly serving a barrel of beers to people at a bar.

So he was just hitting a barrel of beers at a bar.

Well, he had a tub of beers, I guess, and he was just walking up to the bar to hand them to people.

So apparently he was really hitting all the big locales to promote this beer.

Let's go back to this.

Well, but

hold on.

I was just about to say, it sounded like when they said they waited four hours, it sounded like they were running late from the

start of the thing.

And then somebody is, oh shit, we got to get to another thing.

And they just jumped up and took off, leaving these people standing there with Pete in hand.

And this sounds like a mismanaged and

you know, uh, behind the behind the eight-ball fucking schedule they had to begin with.

Let's go back to Blaise Gomez, News 12.

Wildly successful in these videos, he shared today is Hulk Hogan Day.

Dutchess County executive Sue Sereno declared last Tuesday Hulk Hogan Day to commemorate his appearance in Poughkeepsie.

But clearly,

broke these kids' hearts.

Not everyone had a good time.

If he had to leave, maybe he could have walked down that line and at least shook people's hands and said, hey, I'm sorry.

Will you try again if he goes on tour locally?

Probably not.

In Montgomery, Blaze Gomez, News 12.

Thank you, Blaze.

Now, we tried to reach out to Hogan's publicist about the complaints from Taylor and others, but we have yet to hear back.

All right, well, Hulk Hogan ducking the issue.

This major story.

You know, it's one guy and his two kids, and he's the one who filmed them upset.

And then he's the only person talked to in the story.

What do you think of all this?

Well, there may be some element of that, but at the same time, it sounds like that they were behind to begin with.

They got there, they're going to, if they were supposed to do 200,

then they should have, if this guy was 180, whatever the fuck.

I I always, I never,

when I would agree to do an autograph appearance, and I'm not a big star, I just gotten in the movies here this past week.

But I would never say a specific time.

It's okay because it's whoever makes the effort to show up unless,

you know, it was advertised for two o'clock and somebody's wandering in at five o'clock and you've just finished and you're packing up and that's, you know, a different story.

But if there's people in line,

you need to, you know, accommodate them.

Except if you're booked to go and there's fucking 200 people waiting somewhere else that you're supposed to start in an hour and you're two hours away or whatever the fuck their deal was.

But they should have

made some concession for the rest of the people in that line of the 200 they said they were going to see.

free pictures, like the guy said, the handshake or whatever.

Because when you've,

if you've promised hungry people a fucking meal and you see a bunch of people eating in front of you while you're standing in line, and then they pull all the fucking food up and tell you, I'm sorry, you're going to be even more pissed because you've been watching the goddamn people eat, right?

So if he's been in front of everybody and they've been standing there in line and then they just get up and leave, no wonder even one guy is pissed or whatever.

So

I would have think they would have been able to handle that better to me.

Do you think Hulk Hogan, even if he's behind schedule, should be a little hypersensitive to things like this, considering he's had so much negative publicity around him and he's trying to launch a new beer brand?

Well, yes.

And,

you know, was that the thing when the kids filed through, did they get an autographed picture and a can of fucking hooch from the hookster?

The kids at the beer thing, you know, Bruno would have never gone for that.

They wanted to go with that Bruno beer and he said, nope, nope.

Bruno wouldn't drink wine in a restaurant if there were kids in the restaurant.

Exactly, because he didn't want them to see their hero drinking alcohol.

That's why, when he turned down the Bruno beer, they gave it to the president's brother in 76.

Hulk Hogan's handing him out

here.

Yeah, here, take a swing of this.

It'll make life much better.

But

again, you would think that, yes, to answer your question, he would be cognizant somewhat of the negative publicity, but also that his

people would, you can't just dangle a guy out there.

And while you're standing in line or you got fans standing in line, he's out there doing this and suddenly he jumps up when you're supposed to be included.

It's, you know.

And I assume that since this was a promotional tour, I don't know if there was a charge or not.

They didn't say one thing.

They didn't say the other.

That would have made it a completely completely bigger thing i think if people well that that you know that would have made it a bigger thing if they you know

but if you if you say you're going to do 200 and you're numbering people then that gives them the right to be awfully pissed off if they don't get what they're supposed to get they must have known they were going to have to leave at a certain point if they all just abruptly got up and left do you do something even if hogan's not going to get up because of his conditioning like he's not he's not good moving around more than he has to well god damn he's not a fucking wheelchair but he's had a lot of issues with his back and his legs and everything else.

He's not someone who should be walking more than he has to, maybe to walk a line.

But if you have Jimmy Hart there, do you say, like, hey, we're going to have to cut out early?

Go work the line a little bit and apologize to people and let them get a picture with you.

Well, wait a minute, poor Jimmy is left behind in Poughkeepsie or wherever.

Goddamn, it was Hulk Hogan Day or whatever.

When they're going to the next thing, we don't know where they were going.

And Jimmy doesn't want to move to fucking

New York State, probably.

But

yes, again,

bring the rest of the people up in a group of 30.

How many were they short?

We don't know, but bring them up in a group and let them stand up, take a group picture and say, hey, guys, we're running behind, but I've signed these extra 30 pictures and

talking to Jimmy's megaphone.

Just something.

And off we go.

Thank you.

You've been a wonderful audience standing in fucking line.

You can't just leave while people are standing there staring at you.

You know that they're going to get pissed.

Instead, you get four-year-olds cutting promos on you while they're crying.

Yeah,

I hate you, Hugo.

He created the next generation of super villains right there.

That kid, one of those kids, is going to be a super villain.

And this is the origin story.

This is where his life pivots to serve evil.

Or perhaps a superhero if they're fighting Hulk Hogan.

Well, that's true.

The lines are blurred a little little bit these days.

You never know who's on whose side.

And speaking of not knowing who's on whose side, Brian, this might be a segue.

Are they off?

Are they on?

These crazy star-crossed lovers, CJ and Miro,

have reunited

and it feels so good.

It must be something about the

air in Bolivia or no, Bulgaria.

bulgaria not bolivia bulgar well are they anywhere close no

well

but anyway

they

well alphabetically they are cj

cj and miro have got remiroed or remarried i should say

after

i don't know what prompted the reconciliation, but they and we're not

revealing any personal news here and violating anybody's space because they sent out a picture.

It's been on the on the Twitter machine and everything.

There's a picture of them

together or re re uh

how do they say reciting their not recite reciting would be the first time re-reciting their vows

or doing whatever it is, re-partaking of the vows of the thing.

I've never married the same person twice.

Well, I have an article here.

And remember what they said.

Their mentor told them they should always be together no matter what, if they want to make it in wrestling.

CJ Perry, Miro, we renewed our vows.

Renewed.

Kiss and Make Up after 2023 split.

Wrestling stars CJ Perry and Miro

are giving love a second chance.

The two are back together after initially calling it quits on on their marriage over a year ago, and they have already renewed their vows.

The couple tells TMZ Sports that they started talking again in June 2024 when Miro,

formerly known as Rusev in WWE, returned stateside after visiting his home country of Bulgaria.

Visiting for what, about nine months?

As the months went by, they slowly continued to rekindle their relationship, with Perry even jetting over to Bulgaria for the Christmas holiday.

Fast forward to a few weeks ago, they held a small ceremony at a church in LA and doubled down on their marriage.

We're told CJ and Miro

are living together, splitting their time between the city of Angels.

and Bulgaria.

And the city of Bulgaria and the darkest city on the planet.

The two broke up in the winter of 2023 after tying the knot in July 2016.

Miro filed for divorce, but he revoked it on July 31st.

While we won't be surprised to see them being all coupley out in public again.

All couple.

Who is writing this?

What outlet is this on?

TMZ.

And they use

phrases like all coupley.

Where Where we'll catch them in the ring next remains to be seen.

AEW released Perry in April 2024, while Miro's deal with the organization expired earlier this year, according to reports.

Love always wins.

And that is the

official word because they leaked it to TMZ.

They're the ones who came with the TMZ and said here.

So that's the official word.

TMZ certainly certainly had a lot of dates and details there.

And

so if he does show back up in the WWE and she is with him, we could assume that they

remarried so they could return as a couple.

A couple,

as they say over there in France.

Here's a question.

And again, if every angle about them is dealing with them and it just, it never ends and it never really seems to go wherever they want it to go i don't know what the problems have been with these things in two different companies now but if you're bringing them back

do you bring them back as rusev

miro is obviously short for his real name i think is miroslav

do you bring him back as miro has he established himself enough or is he in the ricky saints territory where

all of a sudden he has a new name and do you bring her back as lana the russian or is she I guess she lost a Russian accent while she was there.

What do you think?

Do they keep their names that they've been using now outside of WWE or go back to who they were?

I think, to be honest,

the Rusev thing, yes, they've shown in the past that they will,

you know,

they will recycle these names if it because he was more over there than he's ever been anywhere else.

So, I think they would use Rusev rather than Miro because I laughed when you said he's established himself as what

a fucking missing person.

Uh, right now he's he's established as that guy we haven't seen in a long fucking time.

I don't think they need her.

And I don't think that they ought to, anything done with him and her together has been blech

with an emphasis on the

so I would, if I was them, I'd say we want this big

Bulgarian that can pass for a Russian.

Because, you know, even though they're now allies of the United States government, the people of America don't really like the Russians.

So I think they'd want him and make him a beast or a monster or, you know, whatever the fuck.

I don't see why anything that they have done together with each other is in any way entertaining rather than confusing.

So I don't know why.

And they've got a bunch of girls that are better workers because we haven't seen her work.

I don't know if she does.

She did eventually.

Yeah.

Remember she like powerbombed through a table like 10 weeks in a row or something on Raw?

We weren't watching Raw, but we heard about that.

You know, whatever they, well, obviously they thought a lot of her.

I'm sure that the field has blown past her at this point.

So I don't know why they'd be interested in her.

See, they were good together early on when they first came up, but I just don't think he could ever get over past her when they were together.

The story always becomes about her.

And she was really good as Lana the Russian.

And it was all about her coming on the stage, wearing a tight dress and turning around slowly and looking at people.

And then here's the monster that's with her.

And then the stuff with her and Lashley, and then in AEW, on his own,

once you got him past Kip Sabian, too,

he started getting over.

Like when he was TNT champion, that was good stuff from him.

And then they took the belt off him,

and we barely ever saw him ever again, except for the CJ stuff and the promos about God that he did for weeks and weeks and weeks where he was ranting about God and then God never booked him.

I really don't know what happened.

So, yeah,

we wish them the best in their future endeavors as a star-crossed set of lovers navigating this big blue marble in the fucking universe.

Or something like that.

Coming soon to a WWE near you.

So,

should we talk about the black history lesson that we have to give the the people at BET, which stands for Black Entertainment Television, except it's a website now, too?

Have you seen this, Brian, the list of the

15 best black pro wrestlers?

I've heard there was something going around.

I have not seen it.

Is that what it is?

It's the 15 best?

Well, see, that was the thing.

It went around on Twitter yesterday, and I was seeing it, and I looked at it and said, oh, what the fuck?

And

then I said, But, you know, because I didn't see the actual

article itself, I saw the people talking about the list, right?

And I said, Well, maybe it's the

15 best, you know, since 2005 or whatever the fuck.

But I go to the article on bet.com and it says,

From the rock to Bianca Belair, the 15 greatest black wrestlers ever.

And ever, as we know, is a very long time.

But now they have, and it says explore WWE, AEW, and wrestling history

through the careers of names a few people and more barrier-breaking icons who dominated championships and shaped pop culture.

Big graphic 15 best black pro wrestlers.

Would you like to hear this list and

imagine who

your top five would be or just people that would be on this?

That's what I'm thinking about now.

Like I'm weighing someone like Bobo Brazil.

Would he be on my list of the 15 best or the 15 biggest, the 15 greatest?

Well, no, this is.

The 15 greatest black wrestlers ever.

Now, obviously, it's BET.

We're not talking about

work rate like Uncle Dave or the star ratings.

And we're just talking about as a wrestler, not influenced.

Like Ernie Ladd wouldn't get any credit for booking or anything.

It would just be his wrestler.

No, no, just the people in the ring.

Okay.

Number 15.

Jazz.

Number 15.

Now, I know.

Ever?

Ever?

Well, that's what the headline says.

The 15 greatest black wrestlers ever.

And

Jazz is a friend of mine.

And I like her.

And,

you know,

I'm not sure about that.

The 15 of, and this is, by the way, this is both the male and the female genres.

Number 15 was jazz.

Number 14,

Shelton Benjamin.

Again, I'm not arguing with the quality of it.

And, you know, when you sit down and make a list, he very well might be on it.

But number 13, Brian, Naomi.

Oh, come on.

Ever, now it's, how can I take it?

I don't even know where you're going.

And this is.

Yeah, well, I'm going where they're taking me.

You don't think I'm blazing this trail on my own, do you?

I ain't making this up.

I'm sitting here writing down names of people that clearly you're not going to name on this list.

Number

12.

Dory Dixon.

Dory Dixon, right?

No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Jacqueline,

Miss Texas, Jaggie Moore,

love her to death, too.

She might be in the 15 greatest

African-American women wrestlers of all time.

I would definitely put her on there.

Oh, yeah.

Well, now, if you

if it was broken up to male and women, absolutely, I'd put her on there, I think.

There you go, and I would more than agree with you.

Number 11,

Biggie,

Biggie, everybody,

Biggie.

Other than Jackie,

have you named anyone who wrestled before the 80s?

Well, hold on here.

Okay.

Because it gives the day

the year they debuted.

Jazz debuted in 1998, Shelton in 2000 naomi in 2009 jacqueline in 1989 see there you go

big e 2009 and number 10

divon dudley

he wrestled from 1991 to 2020.

this list is all over the place what i i again uh where's luther lindsay on the list

well hold on we've got nine more we got nine more jim mitchell i'm waiting for for the Black Panther.

We're talking about influence, waiting for the Black Panther.

Well, you mentioned Bobo Brazil and Arnie Ladd.

Have you talked about Abdullah the Butcher or Bearcat, Bearcat Wright?

Yeah.

Was there a time in 1962, 1-2, Chicago, et cetera, with Bearcat Wright drawing 25,000, 30,000 people?

A couple of those main event world title matches.

He was in the top 10, I would think, box office attractions in the entire business that year, whatever color.

But number nine, Bianca Belair.

Belair.

Again, if it was the 15 greatest African-American women wrestlers of all time, 100% I'd put her on that list.

And she may place pretty high.

I'm really, I'm a big fan of hers.

I think she's great, but of all time ever.

And we've already skipped, again, I'm expecting.

Is Junkyard Dog on the list?

Well, hold on.

Let's let's see.

Uh, but and by the way, I agree with with you on the women's list for Bianca.

Yeah.

Number eight,

Bobby Lashley.

He's done well

as a box office attraction.

He was a champion.

I could see an argument for him being in the top 15

African-American men of all time.

Yeah, I could see that argument too.

Cause again, the WrestleMania with him, even though it had Trump and Vince, it was him against Umaga.

and that was the biggest drawing, the record pay-per-view crowd, whatever it was for WrestleMania.

And he was in the main event, and he's always been kind of slotted towards the upper card ever since.

And he did a lot of MMA, took a lot of breaks.

But 15, it's not outrageous for Bobby Lashley, no.

Number seven,

Ron Simmons,

and that's actually not crazy, ridiculous either.

That's not crazy in a couple different companies.

Number six.

Butchery.

Okay.

Butchery.

No.

Junkyard Dog.

Now you got the dog.

They have to include the dog because the dog is still talked about

so much by

modern wrestlers.

So

they have to talk about the dog.

He was active from 1977 to 1993.

But

we got one of the people people that you were thinking about, but we got five more.

Are you ready, Brian?

No.

Number five,

Mercedes Moon.

Oh, come on.

Of all time.

This list is ridiculous.

And they are ranking with numbers.

So apparently, we're going 15 to 1, and we're at number five.

Number five, Sasha Banks/slash Mercedes Moon.

Yeah.

The boss, Sasha Banks, is the face of black female wrestling worldwide.

So more than Bianca?

Well, that's what it says here.

The face of the revolution for the women's side of the game.

Her historic, wait a minute.

Her historic main event with Bianca Belair

would be the only time two black women faced off at WrestleMania in the promotion's history.

And it was also one of the most perfectly executed matches I've ever seen.

So you can tell that

whoever writes this for BET is

one of those.

I remember it being a good match, but again, I don't

see Bianca as more of a candidate for like a top 15,

like placing high in it of black women wrestlers than I do Sasha Banks, to be quite honest.

Anyway,

back to number four the top four number four mark henry oh i didn't even

yeah interesting i gotta be honest with you in terms of longevity and being used in a top spot for much of that despite his rocky

start that we've talked about

uh

Yeah, again, if you made a list, I mean, this could be debated, but it's not out of place.

But number three,

Kofi Kingston.

Oh, come on.

Of all time, get out of here.

This is ridiculous.

Yeah.

That's ridiculous.

Yeah, yeah.

Okay, and then we go to the top two, baby.

Number two,

the rock.

The final boss.

What do you think, Brian?

I think he would have to be near the top if we're talking about best, most famous, most successful.

If he's not number one, I'm surprised he wasn't number one, to be honest with you.

Well, but after

some of the other quotes from this author, I'm not.

Matter of fact, let me see if I can get a byline on this before we go to number one

by Tyler Tines.

And it is

a guy

who's

apparently obsessed with

Mercedes and that type of thing.

But anyway, The Rock is number two.

And yes, but now does he only get half credit?

Should he only,

should that be mitigated?

He's part Samoan.

Should he be half on the Samoan list and half on the African-American list?

He's not African-American.

He's Canadian.

That's right.

And there's an asterisk too.

So he is

50% Samoan and 50% Afro-Canadian.

Yeah, I mean, I think he would be on the list of, you know, I think he would be on the list.

I wouldn't put Rocky Johnson on the list.

Well, and that, but there's something else.

The Rock is on his father, Rocky Johnson, in terms of, and I know personal feelings aside, but then we'd have to do a background check on all these people and some of them we don't know.

But in terms of longevity in the business, main event positioning and box office, Rocky Johnson probably needs to be in top 15.

There's a few people.

I'm going to guess none of them are going to be number one.

I wrote Dory Dixon.

I said some of these.

Luther Lindsay,

Butch Reed, Tony Atlas could be considered on the list by some.

Sailor Art Thomas.

I had Art Thomas that Coco Ware if you go by until he got.

He became the bird man and got fat and lazy.

You know, it probably wouldn't be looked at as a gimmick worth embracing, maybe.

But Kamala, technically, if you're going on success in places he worked and reinvented, if you were going by the territories, then you really open it up.

Bearcat Brown, Shag Thomas, lots of people that were actually pretty big local sports stars for a good period of time.

But again,

I'm trying to think who they did not name yet.

I guarantee you,

Bearcat Brown sold more tickets than fucking Mercedes Moon ever has.

Who's the one?

But number one.

You've said everybody but this man,

Booker T.

Booker T, number one, and lists all the titles.

He has won a lot of fucking championships.

But he was active from 1989 to 2012.

So he kind of spanned two of those generations there.

I would definitely put Booker T in the top 15.

His inclusion there, I wouldn't make him number one, but I do think he's deserving clearly of being in the top 15.

A few of the names there, Ron Simmons, JYD, obviously.

But

you can't say it's ever when clearly there's a starting point to the history they used because it ignored.

I mean, if Ernie Ladd's not on the list.

Yeah, but it's bullshit to begin with.

But also.

Now that you look at that with those names that you mentioned and,

you know,

Abdullah, Ernie Lad, Bobo Brazil, Bearcat Wright, R.

Thomas, Dory Dixon, and on and on, all the names that we've just said,

and some of the people from this list, you've got more than 15, then we'd have to start narrowing it down.

But

anyway,

BET needs the black history lesson, or maybe

just

Tyler Tines.

Maybe he's just 25 years old and he doesn't know shit from apple butter yet.

You know what?

The other thing is,

beyond some of the work of John Cosper, who documented the life and career of Jim Mitchell, the Black Panther,

there aren't too many books, I mean, at least that I know of, and I have a lot of wrestling books, about the real history of wrestling for black wrestlers.

You know, who was going where, some of the names.

Everyone knows Bobo Brazil because it's a classic name.

It's a name that transcends wrestling.

It just sounds like a great name yeah but there are lots of other big stars that are almost forgotten today and it's a shame so you know sailor art thomas because i got to see him in the waning days or years of his career because he worked for bruiser in indianapolis what kind of shape was he in at that point he had the best physique of anyone i've ever seen that i don't think he was on steroids uh but based on a time period best physique ever

Yeah, no, he still, he was 50 years old and he still had the big arms and the big chest.

and that was the deal.

His finish was the bear hug and he would break the full Nelson.

And, you know, but he was, he was a rotten worker.

I don't think it was even because he was 50 years old.

I don't think he was very good ever, but

he looked so good and he was over and he drew money.

And fortunately, by the late 50s, they had settled on Sailor Art Thomas instead of his original name, Seaman Art Thomas, which just, you know, to me, was,

as you got into the 60s, was just opening him up for abuse that he shouldn't have had to take.

But anyway, that's the list, Brian, there on the BET network online or whatever.

The greatest ever.

Oh, the children, the children.

Speaking of children,

I understand that Uncle Dave has told his

children, the sheep that follow in his flock, what they should have thought about the pay-per-view matches again.

Well, Jim, indeed, I have here the star ratings from the new Wrestling Observer newsletter covering AEW Revolution, which we just talked about previously on the last show.

Boy, howdy, did we at great length.

And

I don't expect at this point

that Uncle Dave is ever going to see eye to eye with

facts, logic, or, you know, visual what's in front of his face like we do.

But does it, is he in any way trying to indicate to these people,

you've jumped the shark, shit the bed and gone too far, and this was a mess, and can you rein it the fuck in?

Or is he just saying,

everything was five stars, five stars, and the greatest thing that we've ever seen again, again, every time.

Let me ask you this, Brian, before you tell me these numbers.

Yeah, please.

Okay,

they rate numerically, they quantify, they grade

the high dive in the Olympics.

That's another impressive stunt like the AEW wrestlers do.

But you get like, I think, three tries, right?

And then

they use your best one or or with a cumulative score or whatever, but you don't get to go up there and just jump off that thing all day.

Right.

Now, what would happen

if they change the grading to where you get like 25 dives

and you just keep going up there and jumping off and going up there and jumping off?

And three of them are really fucking beautiful.

And another four or five, that brings us up to eight.

Well, those looked great.

And then the next six, it kind of looked the same.

And then he started getting tired.

He started getting sloppy.

And there was three or four in there that just fucking sucked.

But overall,

I give it five stars because the ones at the start looked good.

Is this that logic?

Is it just if you are allowed to do everything you can possibly do until the brink of exhaustion,

then I'll grade it high just because you did a lot of shit?

Or does it have to be that all the shit that you do is at a

high level of professionalism?

Well, let me just say in advance of giving you the actual star ratings here, there was some audio that went around this week, one of the accounts, like Meltzer said what, or if it wasn't him, it was one of the other, you know, Meltzer's shit's poo or whatever the fuck's going on out there.

Meltzer Schitz Pooh?

I think they suspended that account.

But one of them had audio from, I guess, one of the shows they have over there.

And it was all about, I guess, it was all the people that go to his house for pay-per-views, and it was about his reactions to stuff and how he loses his mind for the Will Ospreay stuff.

They were all laughing about how Dave is over the top when Will Ospreay's in the ring.

So, let's go to the star ratings here.

In order, Hangman Adam Page defeated MJF

4.5 stars.

okay

i i'm again i'm not surprised because i know what he does and

you know that would make it with some of the rank right up there with some of the premier matches of all time in the wrestling business and i don't think it

it was but at least nobody took an axe to anybody or

I don't think there was any power tools in that one.

So, okay.

Well, Jim, the next match mercedes monet

versus momo watanabe

four and a quarter stars oh come on

brian you're more tolerant than i am and even you said it wasn't it was a grim situation in some parts there

is it just because

Okay, well, now, but she's Japanese and she, you know, must be good because she was trained by

Margaret Cho or whatever that other girl's name is.

I believe you're speaking of Emmy Sakura, but let's go.

Yeah, no, Freddie, Freddie Mercury.

And by the way, I skip past the pre-show.

Let me just do that quickly.

Hologram and Commander defeated Lee Johnson and Blake Christian, nine minutes, 53 seconds, four stars.

What, wait, what?

God.

Four stars.

It's a wonderful way to open the show, obviously.

Kyle O'Reilly, Roderick Strong, Strong, Adam Cole.

So

the opening of the pre-show with two people we've never heard of against two miscellaneous masked children was the equivalent of a flaring steamboat match.

I got you.

Kyle O'Reilly, Roderick Strong, Adam Cole, and Daniel Garcia defeated Shane Taylor, Lee Mariarty, and the infantry nine minutes, 36 seconds.

Three stars.

Oh, I must have sucked balls.

Oh, let me read this because this is what I missed, and I was trying to figure out exactly what happened.

Chris Jericho was to face Gravity for the ROH title.

Jericho hit him in the head with a bat and was beating on him.

Bandito tried to make the save for his brother.

Oh, they're brothers?

I didn't know that.

Gravity and Bandito are brothers.

But Big Bill and Brian Keith were beating on him.

Jericho beat on Bandito with his bat.

Bandito's mother and sister were shown in the crowd in tears.

They did a great job of pulling that off.

Jericho unmasked Gravity.

The unmasking got far more heat than anything, even more than threatening the women.

We also managed to take a goddamn stick to a couple of children to see what they thought about that, too.

But they went with the unmasking.

Jericho continued to work them over and hit the Judas effect on gravity.

The mother and sister ended up in the ring.

Jericho threatened them, and Bandito tried to protect them and got kicked in the face.

The next match, Jim, Big Boom AJ and Mark Briscoe and Pockets versus the MXM Collection,

who are called now Mason Madden and Mansoor.

That was his name over there.

And Johnny TV, 12 minutes, 54 seconds.

Two stars.

Two stars for this match.

Good lord, what did they do?

Have explosive projectile diarrhea in the middle of the ring?

And by the way, for MJF versus Adam Page, here's what Dave wrote.

Page cut his hair and looks like 1969 Les Thatcher.

But in the next match on the show, Swerve Strickland defeated Ricochet, 18 minutes, 9 seconds, 4 and 3 quarter stars.

Okay.

He's being very

appreciative of people's feelings here again this week.

Kazushka Okada beat Brody King in 11 minutes, 44 seconds.

All right,

here's the fucking test.

Can he

open his eyes to what he is looking at and say something to the effect of it's so sad what Okada has become and how that he just is either incapable of it anymore or doesn't give a shit and is

milking the guy for money and being lazy.

What does he say here?

Three and three-quarter stars.

You know, I hate to say it, but that's almost the same thing, isn't it?

Only three and three-quarter.

That would only have been approaching excellence in a prior generation.

Did he have any comment about,

you know, Okada's lack of life?

No.

King chopped the hell out of Okada.

He ended up with his chest all bruised and his biceps all bruised.

King missed the charge, went to a barricade.

Okada used the DDT.

King did more hard chops and elbows.

King did a top rope superplex and an elbow suicida.

Okada's chest was brutalized by this point.

King did a running crossbody on Okada on the barricade.

Okada did the elbow off the top.

It just keeps running through actually what happened.

It reads much better than it was, doesn't it?

Let's go to the next match.

Shelton Benjamin and Bobby Lashley defeated the Outrunners eight minutes, 37 seconds, one and a half stars.

Okay,

I got to be honest with you that nobody was either arrested mid-match or carried out in an ambulance on this scale should get two stars at least.

Arrested.

Yeah, I mean, you know, it would have to be,

it would have to be something really disruptive and totally unacceptable on this scale to again that, you know,

nobody's fucking sphincter fell out and prolapsed in the middle of the fucking match.

So I don't think it was that bad.

I mean, at least they were able to, the right

team won.

They didn't fuck up the finish and accidentally lose.

So, there you go.

Well, here's what Dave wrote: it's actually interesting.

This was a bad mix for a lot of reasons.

First, the hurt syndicate are total babyfaces to this crowd.

So, the dynamic of the outrunners being underdogs, you wanted to see win doesn't work or didn't work, he wrote here.

Yeah,

what do you think of that?

Do you think the hurt business or the hurt syndicate, when you see them, do you think they're baby faces?

Well,

it that's simplifying it for

you know, for the sake of the statement.

They are not babyfaces.

They are heels, but the people love them because they are

a level above in appearance and professionalism and performance, what they're seeing on the rest of the card.

They're either tired of all of the

stupid things they have seen a lot of these other guys do that have been there for a while, and there's nobody new that particularly,

except for Osprey is new-ish.

They don't give a fuck about Okada, I don't think anymore.

The people that are there will cheer for him if they happen to be there and he's there, but he ain't bringing anybody in.

The Hurt Syndicate haven't done anything stupid.

They haven't been silly.

They haven't been phony.

They're good at what they do.

They beat people up.

MVP's a good talker.

So the problem, the reason why that they're

babyfaces in response from the crowd, even if not indeed in the ring, is two reasons.

Number one, this is not only a smart crowd, but it's a smart ass crowd.

And they like to show how smart they are and they're cheering for the people that are the biggest stars on the program.

And secondly, there's no babyfaces that have anybody behind them to the level

that you would want

people to be behind your top babyface so that they can,

can you think of maybe

if the Hurt Syndicate beat up Kenny,

half the people would probably still like him.

Maybe if they beat up Osprey,

40% of the people might still like him.

Whatever.

The babyfaces are not babyfaces because they're either phony, goofy, ineffectual, or they've been around too long and are stale.

Let's go to the next match, Jim.

Tony Storm defeated Mariah May.

Hollywood ending match, 12 minutes, 56 seconds.

Falls count anywhere.

Five-star match.

And I'm sure he did the classic disclaimer about, well, I don't care for this type of thing, but it was wonderful.

I'm not seeing that.

I thought the same thing after the pin of.

oh, here it is.

I'm not a fan of this stuff with men or with women, but they had what is likely, if AEW presents its history right,

with their all-time classic women's match.

There have been a few better wrestled women's matches in the U.S.,

but this reached a level none of the others did.

Partially due to the storyline and more due to the blood and violence and storyline.

Oh my God.

Jim.

And

go ahead.

If he's not a fan of this type of thing,

then do you did Rex Reed or Siskel and Ebert rate movies based not on what they thought of them, but what they thought other movie-going fans thought of them?

I didn't like the movie, but enough of you told me I should put my thumbs up.

So two thumbs up.

And it's again, this is why that a lot of these

young people not only on young people on both sides of the camera and in both sides of this the seats and the ring

that buy into this indie style of wrestling that dave has championed in this japanese history that he's made up in large part

about how great all the Japanese matches have been consistently for the past.

He lies about that just like he lies about America because he refuses to see through

the fucking fake, phony bullshit

that people have.

He thinks it's progress if you don't learn to like the phony bullshit and the ridiculous, preposterous, unbelievable fucking stunts they do

and the lack of technique they exhibit in any of the art of wrestling while they're beating each other with blunt instruments.

That's the problem is that some of these people

think that that's what wrestling is supposed to be because he says these things.

And some of these people are trying to wrestle like that

because he says these things.

Well, Jim, the next match, Kenny Omega defeated Konoske Takeshta international title, 28 minutes, 29 seconds.

Now, wait a minute, hold on.

If he gave girls five stars, he can't hurt Kenny's feelings because Kenny's his guy.

So, as this has got to be five or five and a half.

Five-star match.

Okay.

Will Osborne defeated Kyle Fletcher in a cage match.

Oh, now, wait a minute.

28 minutes, 56 seconds.

And by the way,

they were almost both exactly the same time.

Way too fucking long.

Yeah.

If Willie and Kyle are out there in a cage match and he gave Kenny

and the girls five stars, he's got to give them five and a half, doesn't he?

Five star match.

So three five star matches in a row, according to Dave Meltzer.

Finally, Jon Moxley,

the way it says it here, retained his title in a three-way over Adam Copeland and Christian.

I guess that is what it was at the end.

Technically at the end there.

Okay, now wait a minute.

26 minutes, 31 seconds.

Let's just pump the brakes here

Because there has to be some honesty displayed here because too many people pointed out the suckiness and the stinkiness of this.

So what does he have to say for himself here?

Three and a quarter stars.

Oh,

that's the same thing as a kicking of balls on this scale, I guess.

That used to be pretty damn good and right under the belly of excellent, but now it's like, oh, he's sending them a message.

Remember when he used to give shit duds?

Yeah.

Do you remember the duds?

There was no doubt.

There were negative stars and duds.

That's right.

Negative stars on some things and duds

when he didn't want to be comedic about the negative stars.

Now the shit that stinks only gets two or two and a half.

There was audio last week going around of him.

Again, it was like 10 seconds and it was just saying i guess in advance of this match jon moxley never has a bad match adam copeland never has a bad match

and it's like if you think that after watching either one of those two guys for the last five years you're out of your mind

and then they had a bad match and he gave it three and a quarter stars so that was aew revolution in the stars

you know brian what you've oh i know i know what you've just said makes me want to take a razor to my throat.

Well, no,

let's not say that.

Well, it does because I'm feeling unkempt.

I feel like Uncle Dave looks unkempt and confused, sitting on his front porch, giving all the young kids good ratings so they'll play in his yard so that he can stare at them and stare wistfully at his.

bygone youth.

But meanwhile, I just want to shave and look neat, right?

No sense in looking unkempt when you become a senior citizen, Brian.

But all people of all ages should be neat and clean and shaved and groomed and smelling good like a New Orleans whorehouse in the summertime, don't you think?

Well, that may not be the pleasant smell people want.

And I think even if you have facial hair, you may want to groom what you have and make it look a certain way or clean it up.

And we know someone, whether you want to take it all off your face or just leave a little bit there and stylize yourself, whatever it may be,

our friend Harry is there for you.

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And by the way, how do you know what a New Orleans whorehouse smells like in a summertime?

But you can smell it a ways down the road, I'll tell you that.

But folks, they'll be able to smell you a ways down the road.

If you're using the products from Harry's, they smell good.

They smell good.

Hey.

Okay, I don't know what the hell that was, but no, let's not say you're going to smell damp miles down.

They smell good.

Well, it depends on which way the wind is blowing now.

But if the wind is at your back,

they're going to smell you coming and they're going to say, well, what in the world?

It smells like.

Purdy flowers or it smells like a manly man who's had a premium body wash and hair gel and deodorant experience from our friends over at Harry's.

That's what it smells like.

That's what they're going to say.

That's what it's, that's what people.

And if you walk up and down, if you walk up one side of the street and down the other side of the street, you'll have people confused where you'll just see them, especially the women, they'll just be wandering around in the middle of the street, sniffing with their noses up in the air.

Somebody's on Harry's.

Again, first of all, they wouldn't say that on Harry's.

Second of all, this scenario is not promised anything.

Have you had a swig of their special skin lotion?

Once again, swig meaning applying it to the skin.

Let's make sure we're clear about that.

Let's make sure we're clear about maybe the women are reacting because of the visage.

Maybe they see your face all clean and down to the skin and bones because of Harry.

Well, what it is, is they put some of the hormones and pheromones into this lotion.

It drives the women wild.

Don't you can't.

You can't put

i've walked past people after using hairs and they have just they've suddenly taken their underwear off and started throwing them at me what

yeah

there was in the crotch but nevertheless

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Well, the people that are happy when they have made the razor and and they get to go home and come back another day.

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You know,

it makes me mad that I got to take a special tool in to the grocery store to pry that security thing off just to be able to shoplift a few measly razor cartridges.

Does that happen to you?

Again, I get my razor cartridges from Harry's.

Well, I do now, but I used to.

And I'm sure it used to happen to you that, you know, you, and you have to before Harry's, I didn't shave.

I didn't shave for years before Harry's.

And then.

Well, you have to disguise that tool in your pocket and you walk all straight-legged until you can pry that security thing off and then stick it in somebody's baby buggy.

Where when it goes off and the people are chasing the kid and the baby buggy, you can make it out the other side.

They got cameras everywhere.

You would never get away with such a thing.

Well, that's first, you need to disable the cameras, but

they're chasing the baby buggy.

Is the baby buggy driving on its own?

Is there a mother pushing the baby buggy?

No, the mother is pushing the baby buggy running down the street to keep her baby away from these people that are chasing her because there's an alarm going off.

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Jim, I know, has Harry's over there.

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So, boy, you don't even have to use shaving gel.

Just

you should.

You probably should.

Just shave it dry.

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Well, Brian, now it's the time that we've, some of us may have been waiting on.

We've got to talk about the offering from AEW this past Wednesday night.

You can leave that in if you want, Jace.

The 12th of March is

the 12th of March.

That's the response I've had ever since I watched this television show.

It gave me the sour belches.

I've not been able to recuperate because

I don't know what they're doing now.

Cause this is just, there's,

it's like they just said, oh, shit, we got to do something to fill this time up.

Let's do this.

And the same amount of people are going to watch it i think they're they've got to be down to the nub at this point i'm sure they'll do about their same

average but i i have to think this is going to be another one of those slalom shows where they lose people off the edge at the end but brian are you happy we got some more tournaments coming up

when they announced that i groaned But I mean, I knew we had the Owen Hart tournament coming up, and we know we have the Continental at the end of the year.

But that doesn't take into account the Dynasty Eliminator tournament.

Wild card.

Tony thought of another tournament.

And this tournament's a stupid tournament.

It's not even a standard tournament.

It's a stupid tournament.

Well, if we're going to talk stupid, let's get the head honcho of stupid incorporated out here.

The first thing we saw was Kenny.

Kenny came out, twinkle toes, McFinger Bang, in his baggy shorts, sleeveless t-shirt, and fluorescent tennis shoes.

And I'm with the,

he's got this grand entrance music.

And then when he's wrestling, he wears these grand outfits.

And it's overdone to the dramatic extreme.

But when he comes out to do an interview, he's just dressed like some parking attendant.

And he looks like, kind of like maybe some kids' soccer coach going around greeting the parents on the way to the ring.

It's so blase and lackadaisical.

And he's smiling and waving.

He'll sign an autograph.

Kids' soccer coach.

Well, I mean, look at him.

What is what?

You're getting mixed messages with the presentation and the visual, but anyway, and then I said, oh, he's going to talk.

And he talked.

He's in a dream state.

He's not only back, but with all your support,

I'm back with a singles title.

And of course, it took him a minute and a half to say all that.

There was a lot of branching off.

And he thanked the breathy, nonchalant voice and meandering conversational style.

He thanked Take a shit for pushing him.

And

I just don't, I don't think he's an exciting personality.

I I think he's a

kind of a just bleh.

But he said Tony Khan had an idea for the Dynasty Eliminator tournament.

And Kenny likes it because whoever holds that belt

that he's talking about the belt that he has, which is the

international title, right?

That is

Kokata has the continental and they'll probably merge them.

Yeah, and then it would be the intercontinental title.

Whoever holds the international title should be the best wrestler on the planet.

The world champion would like a word.

But nevertheless, he said, I want to face the best because the person who holds this belt should be the best in the world.

So then he bid us adieu.

blew us a kiss and said good night and bang

and he left the ring there.

By the way, did I mention that him speaking could put a meth addict to sleep?

But, Brian, here is the

Dynasty International Championship Eliminator Tournament field to determine who the best wrestler in the world is.

You want to hear who's in this tournament?

Let's hear it.

Hetchychiro,

hetcha chichero.

Hetchichero's in it.

Our little dog pockets.

Frank the Beast Mortise.

A wild card.

Shapoopy.

Shapoopy's in the tournament to determine the best.

Ricochet,

Mark Briscoe.

And Mark Davis.

The winner of that tournament will face Kenny.

So, do we want to see Kenny versus Mark Davis?

Do we want to see Kenny versus Mark Briscoe at this point?

Might be the best Kenny match that we could see.

I wouldn't mind seeing that.

But is that a pay-per-view championship match for the best in the world?

Shapupi?

No.

Frank the Beast, Mortis?

Hetchy Chichero?

Pockets?

No.

It's down to Ricochet.

And then there's Wildcard.

More on that in a moment.

I think Ricochet has to win this thing, doesn't he?

Because he's both a heel and

a gymnast that Kenny can vault with.

Unless they want to...

Really do everything they can to get Wildcard over.

They may have him win.

Kind of a hell of a way to debut in AEW.

Wildcard wins.

And

I mean, you would think either Ricochet or you mentioned another name, and I don't even know.

Oh, the Beast Mortos.

Actually, I want to see Omega versus the Beast Mortos.

I want to see what that's going to be like, but I don't think that's going to be the main event either.

Or the final, whatever the hell it is.

Yeah.

Well, nevertheless, Kenny is leaving, and on the way

out

and coming out of the entranceway to meet him are the ops.

Samoa Joe, Shapoopy, and Hook.

And

of the three of them,

the one to go stare down at Kenny is not Samoa Joe, but it's Shapoopy.

Now you're going to say, why is anybody staring Kenny down?

Because they're all baby faces.

That's why it doesn't make any fucking sense, but you've got Samoa Joe teamed up with Hook and Shapupe

having random six-mans

with

jobbers that make funny faces

when you need top stars.

What the fuck is going on?

And Joe

was the last world champion before they

dropped it to MJF and everything started going to fucking hell when everybody started getting hurt and fucking meandering around.

I mean, style-wise, kenny omega maybe doesn't want to have a physical match like he would with joe it'd be different than i mean not that his matches aren't physical it looks like he's always going to hurt himself but with joe it may be a different animal i don't know well goddamn then just put joe over for the belt and be on your way

They need top talent and

singles guys that people can fucking believe in and get behind.

And they were with Joe until that was whatever the fuck happened.

Didn't he?

They said he was going to make a movie.

He was gone for fucking nine months or whatever.

What do you think of the ops as a group?

A group with shirts, a group that's put together that you see walk out there and you see the visual.

What do you think?

No.

Hook may be a fine young man.

He ain't ready to be teamed up with a top guy like Joe.

Shibata,

please.

In any lifetime in this country, he's not going to make a shit bit of difference to anything.

And the ops,

the tag team fucking partners are next door neighbors of the Gumps.

I mean, what the fuck?

And they did have a match with three jobbers that made funny faces, and they beat him in two minutes.

And

the one that got the win was a kick by Shapupi.

And then the fans started chanting, Joe, Joe, Joe.

Because he's the only one they give a shit about in this whole fucking thing.

And Ricochet was in the back having a promo about the tournament match on Saturday he's going to have with Shapupi.

And

there was a lot of talking, especially in the back on this show.

Swerve was talking in the back

about the world title, but then Edge came in to say he might win the title first.

So Swerve could face him.

So let's confuse the issue further because

i don't think anybody wants to see what they've advertised let's give them a button bunch of what ifs and see if that sticks did you see they announced coat versus moxley next week as a false count anywhere or no dq whatever the stipulation is well that was next with dick the boozer in the back

slobbering in a dark room, but there was a lot of noise in the background.

He wasn't like in

his solitude room in his dungeon in Cincinnati.

he was in the back room of the building where people couldn't even be bothered to be quiet while he was shooting the promo.

But that's yes, next week, Edge and

the Boozer for the title.

And

is it Street Fight or Falls County anywhere?

What no DQ?

Did you like the tag match that happened next, Brian?

I know there's not a lot to say say about many of these things.

But

they showed last week Brian Cage and Lance Archer attacking

Powerhouse Hobbs, right?

So they had a tag match

with Brian Cage and

Drelistico.

versus Powerhouse Hobbs and Hologram.

and hologram was accompanied by harley cameron in a hologram outfit calling herself harley gram

she's more over than he is

but it looked like two

muscle builders bodybuilders teaming up with two children in halloween costumes

and

As soon as they all get out there, they started with an immediate four wave where they were the

two minute lucha guys, hologram was announced at 170 pounds.

And I don't believe that.

They were got in the ring and started having a match and doing rolling and tumbling.

And meanwhile, Cage and fucking Hobbs that are 300 pounds apiece are out on the floor.

Just

it didn't look real great, but they were fighting and pounding on each other.

And the referee

was, it was the corpse ref, of course, Rick Knox, wasn't paying attention at all to the fight on the floor.

He was checking a hold in the ring that the guy had on.

It looked like two completely unrelated things going on at the same time.

And the fans were completely silent for both of them because it didn't even visually make any fucking sense.

Am I lying about this?

No.

You're not lying.

And I don't think hologram is very good, but back to your review.

Well, it looked like what we used to see when nick gulis and it was still running the territory here and he was doing the same he did for 25 years a mixed man and midget tag team match you got bill dundee and cowboy lang going against fucking wayne ferris and little tokyo

or which is oh now see

you got to be that way to

Dundee had a good foot and two inches on cowboy lang because cowboy lang was kind of tall for the midgets wasn't he he was a a a a larger midget

and there was some phony looking in this match especially the tumblers but also cage is not good and

hobbs isn't good with him

but hobbs beat

what you call it with a what was his name he's not in the hologram he was uh dralistico drallistico with a spine buster

and then here came lance archer and mark davis and they yelled at Hobbs, but nobody did anything.

And I'm like, Archer's there.

What is that?

Poor Hobbs.

My Hobbes, poor Hobbs.

In the back.

MVP and the Hurt Syndicate.

And MVP has got a string of promos going on.

He is clicked in his groove and he was in the back.

He's giving them a week off to go have fun

and go out and enjoy yourself.

No, we want to hurt some more people.

We want to train.

No, go have fun.

I'm giving you the week off.

You don't have to wrestle tonight.

So off they went to have fun.

But again, there was a lot of,

it was a strange choice.

Start out the show

with Kenny, who is not a

fireball orator.

He's never been known to excite people with his mouth in a verbal fashion.

And then you have a fucking

six-man,

the guys that were going over in the squash were barely,

except for Joe above the jobber level,

and then repeated

promos in the back, and then the oddest tag team match, just out of

nowhere, Hologram and Hobbs, Cage and

Dr Liv Vliftico.

And then

you're in the back again.

They showed tape of the female torture porn that they aired on the pay-per-view with Maria Mae and Tony Storm.

And then here comes Tony Storm out.

She gets on the stage.

She's in the spotlight and she's doing her accent.

And she said, This tramp is still the champ.

And

I got to be honest, I can't watch or listen to this stuff.

It is so preposterous.

But this is the only thing

that they had really enjoyed up till now.

You're the people are cheering this fucking phony bullshit.

So it's the people that watch wrestling to laugh at it.

And

I can't blame them with this product that they're watching, but I still

have some resentment toward people that laugh at wrestling.

But again, I can understand

with what they're watching.

But

she finished her performance

and then Megan Brain came from behind and knocked her out with a forearm with one shot from boom and stood over her.

They just showed tape.

She'd been a bloody mess.

She'd been pile driven.

She'd been fucking beat with blunt instruments and won the match, but this girl come, boom, one forearm,

one

down she goes and stays there.

Was this a wrestling show or public access on cable where people are allowed to come and do their skits, Brian?

Well, at least her skit's over.

Like you said, I may not be a big fan of just the over.

I think I've said it before.

I'd be a fan of it if it was on other TV shows other than wrestling.

Like, who's this crazy character?

She's like, you know, the new Phyllis Diller.

Who is she?

But instead, it's in the middle of the show and, you know, everyone enjoys playing along.

That's where the ironic wrestling fan comes back into play.

Megan Bain.

Man, I'm high on her.

She's got a look.

She carries herself well.

We haven't seen her really work a long, good match yet,

but they're going with her right away.

I got some background on her.

One of the fans, when we were talking about her a a show or two ago, and we were saying, how did WWE miss out on this?

Apparently,

AEW found her before

she either had trained at all, or as I recall, had trained very little and nobody had seen her.

And they put her under a contract and sent her to

wherever the fuck she was, Japan or whatever.

So the poor thing,

I guess, was sold a bill of goods that they were a company that could develop talent that didn't know much about the wrestling business, didn't know how to.

I mean, if you knew anything about the wrestling business and you're Megan Bain standing looking in the mirror, you go, I need to call the WWE.

But, you know, apparently that's how they got her.

And now,

however long her contract is, is going to be however long she has to serve in

this purgatory before we find out if she can learn and grow and become a star to match the look.

It's like being a baseball player and you're out of high school, you have a choice of college, maybe, or getting drafted, or maybe you're out of college, you get drafted.

Right now, she's working the minor leagues.

And I don't even mean that as a shot of AW.

I'm talking about baseball, that actual example.

But put in your time, get better at what you do.

And when

the time is right, you can go.

And you may not get a ton of money right out of the gate, but you'll have the chance to, especially with her look and her size.

But see, now you're overlooking one thing, though.

The baseball players had played baseball all their lives.

All their lives.

And what is going to happen here is this girl with this amazing size and look and presence and whatever is going to learn from these slap dash.

indie jack offs all these bad habits and how not to think about a wrestling match and how to put shit together where your moves look like you're at a video game instead of having a match.

And

they're going to hold up as the pinnacle of female wrestling accomplishment that fucking,

you know, ridiculous insanity that Tony Storm and Maria did the other day.

And they're going to think that's good.

And

then she's going to have to be retrained, which may be more difficult than training from scratch when she gets to NXT.

So,

you know, Brian, I think, well, go ahead.

I was just going to say, if you wanted her to get better right now,

is there a better person?

I mean, maybe one or two, but are there too many better people than Tony Storm for her to work with in the ring talking about actually working?

Well, but it depends.

Again, I don't know who to go out on a limb for anymore.

You know, Tony Storm obviously wants to be an actress or whatever or something.

I don't know what's going on in her mind that she would perpetrate this on the wrestling business.

But there needs to be a

Mickey James.

We were talking about somebody who was training the girls on the LFG show or BFD show or whatever the fuck it is.

And they moved her over for Michelle McCool.

A Mickey James would be able to speak to the girls from experience.

She's been around long enough.

She knows stupid shit not to do.

And it's the same, you know, she could funnel people, accentuate strengths, and eliminate weaknesses, or they can just go out there and do their own thing.

They have Serena Deeb.

I mean, she's not necessarily the same.

in terms of success as a character as Mickey James, but in terms of entering work.

Well,

Serena, well, Serena can teach the mechanics and the physical part

because

she was a Rip Rogers student.

She knows how to wrestle and knows how to work the physical part, but because she's never been

in a major position

and hasn't worked

a long, you know, as a single on her own like Mickey James has and hasn't worked for a long time in the major company to learn how to

work with television production, et cetera.

She might not be the best psychology

or performance coach.

But that's why you get a little bit of everything.

Brian, you know what?

You get a little bit of everything with?

What's that?

No, I don't.

The Raycon everyday wireless earbuds.

That's what you get a little bit of everything with.

That's a five-star transition there.

Great job.

Because you get a little bit of music, you get a little bit of news, you get a little bit of podcast, you get a little bit of phone calls.

You can do most anything with, you can listen to anything with these things.

You can program them to say exactly or do exactly what you want them to say and do.

Play the music you want.

Play your own kind of music.

Live your own kind of life with the Raycon everyday earbuds.

Nobody's going to judge you because nobody can hear what you're listening to.

Can you imagine, Brad?

You could be walking down the side of the street or driving down the road.

You could be listening to the sound effects of some graphic pornography with a smile on your face.

And nobody knows.

They think you're listening to,

I don't know, Barbara Mandrell.

In actuality, you're listening to Vanessa Del Rio.

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Back to AEW.

Speaking of lubing things up, AEW Dynamite.

Yes, all right.

He's there.

He's back, ladies and gentlemen.

Yes,

I had to take a break for a moment.

All right.

The next match was the

oh, goddamn, what was it called?

The Dynasty Eliminator Tournament for an international title shot match.

And it was Frank the Beast Mortis taking on the wild card who turned out to be

drumroll please

speedball Mike Bailey.

Now, I have heard the name Speedball Mike Bailey.

I've heard it.

I've seen it in print.

I have heard of that name, but I've never seen this guy wrestle.

I've never seen a picture of him.

I didn't know what the fuck to expect here, but I've heard this name.

And Brad, I think you can agree.

It sounds kind of like a cool now-speed ball, Mike Bailey.

Yeah.

Right?

A rollerball Rocco.

It's a cool name.

And like you, I had seen the name.

And I certainly had a kind of maybe unfairly a vision in my mind of what he could look like and what he could be.

And we got to see him finally.

And it

wasn't that, was it?

That you might have envisioned.

I think they should have called him pinball because that's about the size size that he is.

And that's what he does.

He's got a karate gimmick, but it doesn't look like a legitimate karate gimmick.

And they say he's a fourth-degree black belt and taekwondo, but he's, I think it's a video game karate gimmick.

He's wearing the

flashy

Far Eastern influenced jacket, and he's doing the

fist in the palm pose, and he's got a great smile.

Do you think those teeth are really his, or did he get those implants?

Oh, I actually was wondering about the smile, too.

I don't know if they were teeth, I thought it was a mouth guard.

Oh, it might have been, but he's got a big, old, bright smile.

It was the whitest.

Yeah, it was so bright.

That's what made me look.

Yeah, yeah, the whitest teeth I've ever come across.

But

the problem is

he's got two problems.

Number one, he's from the Twinkle Toes school of pointing, posing,

and gesticulating.

And secondly,

he was shorter and lighter than Aubrey Ed, who was the referee and towered over him.

What the?

They didn't even announce him at a weight.

But I mean, it looks like a small child that has dressed up in a fancy martial arts video game costume.

And

he's been training in the junior Olympics for the uneven parallel bars.

But

I should have known when everybody said, Oh, this got to be something special, that it had to be this kind of thing instead of the brawn breaker kind of thing, where he really is special and it is going to be a fucking big star.

We got another fucking

master of the floor exercise.

So,

and he's not real smart either.

He launches into the gymnastics, the flips, and the kicks and the pointing and the posing.

But then

week two in wrestling school, he didn't, he must have fucking been sick that week because he's like the rest of them.

He's concentrating on all the moves he's doing and the poses he's striking, and the shit didn't make any sense.

He did a moonsault off the apron to the floor on Frank the Beast, but the beast moved.

So

Bailey landed on his feet and then

the beast fucking leveled him.

So the baby face hot dogs and it backfires when the heel outsmarts him.

That is Bizarro World Wrestling School lesson in week two.

And I got to think the chains on the beast's mask have to get in the way.

Even if they're plastic, it's got to get in the way of something.

I don't know what the fuck.

They were on the the floor for a while and Aubrey stared at them.

And they just,

Mike Bailey took back over on the floor and got back in the ring to do another dive to the floor.

And then they went to the break.

And when they came back from the break, both guys were down and immobile.

So they're not.

They should be queuing these guys.

And it's live television, so they've got to fucking set time.

They should be queuing these guys when they come back from a break where they could be in action.

It's what we used to do in OVW or in Ring of Honor, any television program that I was tempting to produce.

If you're in commercial break, you tell the referee, okay,

we're coming back in 15 seconds.

Tell them to get in a spot or get in motion.

And you wouldn't come back with guys laying in a hold.

You would come back with the people up with the guys just fighting out of the hold and giving an elbow to the gut and another elbow to the gut.

And he takes off and hits the ropes, but the other guy fucking clotheslines him back down

to where

when you come back from the break, the viewer at home sees the people starting to cheer and make noise and the guy starting to fight back and running and in some type of motion where you can call that.

Brian trying to come out of the chin lock that he's suffered for the entire commercial break, but there, wait, he's broken away and he comes off the ropes, But Cornette with a clothesline puts him down.

We are back, ladies and gentlemen.

You've done your call, then you do your reset.

We're back on AEW.

We got this and that title on the line, or whatever the fuck.

And people are with it.

And then they got up, and Mike Bailey started beating the shit out of Frank.

And then

the beast was on the apron of the ring.

Bailey turned around and went to to hit the far rope so that he could run back all the way across the ring at the beast for a big boot

and he missed him

he his foot went right past him and the beast was standing still

and his did you see that part where his foot went straight over his shoulder and the beast sold it anyway i did see that of course

And then he did a backflip off the fucking buckle.

That was perfect.

So he can't hit a stationary target with his foot, but he can do backflips and land on his feet.

And then I wrote, I just noticed speedball Mike Bailey is barefoot.

How can you be less intimidated of a seventh grader you're about to fight?

Oh, he's barefoot.

He was wrestling that whole time.

And until one of the commentators actually said, you know, he wrestles barefoot.

I was like, oh, shit.

Cause it's like his.

Half of his ankle or his whole ankle was covered.

So you don't even see his feet.

He's got some kind of kick pads or whatever that probably has a like a thing that goes around the foot to hold him on, but he has no shoes.

And the way he wrestles, I'm pretty sure I know why he can't afford them.

So then they climbed to the top and gingerly balanced for a while so that the beast could pick Mike Bailey up and press slam him off the top rope, which was a very impressive-looking bump.

And then the beast gave Bailey more big moves.

And then seconds after,

he'd be fine and he'd be back on offense.

And the beast is twice his size.

But they were wrestling like it was, you know, they were even competitors.

And then finally,

Mike Bailey did

a standing back flip and landed with both knees in the middle of the beast's stomach.

I swear to God, if I was Mortise and he looks like he could do it i would have kicked the out of this kid for that move and the next one

because after he backflipped and landed with his knees in the guy's stomach

then he did a double spinning ballet pirouette

into a kick to the head with his heel and potated the fuck out of the beast did you see that one

I watched it in slow motion.

What did you think?

He kicked the side of the guy's head in with his fucking heel after he spun around for three times.

I swear to God,

I have never seen the

lack of caring for or taking care of another motherfucker's body than I have from this company since they've been on the air in 50 years in the wrestling business.

That guy wouldn't have have got a chance to throw that kick, but once

if it, if either Mortis was really a beast or the booker had an idea on what the fuck he was doing, because Jesus, age Christ.

But anyway, so we got another midget that's fucking doing the high wire and the trapeze act.

And

I bet you he's gonna, he he'll go far in this tournament because Tony won't want to beat him because

he's doing somersaults.

What'd you think?

Letdown?

First time seeing this guy, a bit of a letdown when he came out, and I realized he was a smaller guy.

Not my thing, but let me ask you a question, try to look at the positives.

After talking about the story of Charles Midget Fisher,

do you think maybe Tony should lean into the fact that most of his roster,

with the exception of some people like the Hurt Syndicate or whatever, are smaller guys, both in height and in weight, and in some cases both, and have a middleweight division so that it's not as ridiculous?

Well, then he'd have to change the name of all of his belts, and he's got so many belts that that could put him out of fucking business.

No, it won't.

He loves that.

He loves new belts, and he has lots of money, and he doesn't love money.

He loves giving it away.

So it may work.

That's what it needs to be: the International Light Heavyweight title, and the Continental Junior Heavyweight title, and the

fucking TBS middleweight title.

Let's do just use it to differentiate yourself from WWE.

We have, you know, this style of wrestling here.

Even if it's not true, just fucking run with it so you have something.

Oh, it's true.

They have a different style of wrestling than the

WWE.

They could advertise that all day long and not get fucking

advertised.

How tall was Speedball or Pinball, whatever he's called him?

Could he have been 5'6 ⁇ ?

Okay, so that's what I was thinking.

Was he like 5'5 ⁇ , 5'6?

So you were kind of in the same same range.

How big is Aubrey?

Because she was a little taller than he is.

A little broader in the beam, too, but she's let herself go.

And he had like a Tatanka haircut.

So I mean, just the whole...

Who is this guy?

He looked a little bit like Paul London's younger, smaller, littler brother.

Wasn't Paul London a smaller guy?

Yes.

Yes, he was.

But not this small.

Do you think Speedball is going to get Omega?

Do you think Speedball, the way they treated him here, his debut?

Do you think?

I don't know if you'd asked me a year ago, I'd said maybe Omega would get a speedball, but

I mean, why would?

Yes, I'm sure that they'd love to wrestle each other so they can do all of the cartwheels and the roundoffs and the

cheerleading routines, but it wouldn't draw any fucking money.

Anybody that's, that's going to in any way enjoy seeing Speedball Mike Bailey is is already watching this program because it's no different than everything else they got.

And speaking of everything else they got, now what has happened?

These

obnoxious delinquent children, Nick Plain

is bowing up and yelling at his father figure, Christian Cage, and he's an insolent young pup.

And I think he needs to have a knot jerked in his tail, don't you?

You know, whatever ends all this, I'm all for.

Is there some way we can break this group up?

Anything?

You know, Christian, you know, I'll use your terminology.

He bowed up at Mama Wayne, and all I'm thinking is she can kick the shit out of Christian if she wanted to.

She's bigger than him.

She's taller.

She's Christian.

She's the tallest member of the group.

And counting her large upper frontal protuberances, I believe she's got the body weight on at least two of them.

Yeah, what'd you think?

Well, they were in the back.

It was Christian, the cougar, and the delinquents, delinquents,

Nick Plain and Pip Sabian.

And Christian kicked Renee out because she was related to Moxley.

So he did a promo about the pay-per-view fiasco and how he was cheated and he should have been the champion and everything.

And suddenly,

Nick, Nick turns around and says, you're making excuses and you're telling lies.

And you owe all of us an apology

for all of what you're saying.

And

that's when Christian shoved him.

How about this?

And Nick's mom

got up in Christian's face and he threatened to send her back to the midnight shift at Waffle House.

And that is a complete lie.

She was not that bad off.

She got off every day at 4.30.

And did not come home smelling like she was scattered, smothered, and covered.

She was diced every now then.

The fuck is wrong with you.

Back to the patriarchy.

But yes, the

jerky of the patriarchy.

And then Christian told Nick off real good and pushed him around.

It was a good promo.

Nobody cares because they don't care about this fucking group because it's all just blah.

But

again,

so he's, he's,

I think the one that's probably had the most heat is

Nick's mom, because it's obvious that she don't belong there.

She's just standing there because she's stuck in the fucking group with the rest of these people.

So she's got some heat from just not belonging there and never doing anything.

So

when he's bullied, they haven't set her up to be any kind of sympathetic figure.

So he's bullying her.

They're probably, yeah, Christian.

And with

Nick just now grew a set of balls and has just developed these thoughts all of a sudden that he's got to say it on TV.

I don't know what the fuck is going on here, but I didn't like the stuff about you said.

I didn't like the stuff about his dad.

I thought that, you know.

Oh, yeah.

And again, it always has to be about, and your father died and he was a horrible failure.

And why is anybody going to listen to that?

But that's what they've been doing since the start.

And Christian's whole thing has been about everybody's dead father.

And

you could be a father figure if you had a good line of bullshit and easily you know swayed and impressionable minds.

Or Trump has done the same thing,

but you can't

you've got to sell them something that they're getting that's

that's positive, not just berate them and talk about how what a loser their father was and we're glad he's dead.

That it doesn't make any sense.

And that's why nobody's given a shit about it.

Also, because who cares about Pip Sabian and

Nick,

he was a shiny toy for about 15 minutes for Tony, but now he's got other teenage prodigies to play with.

So that was that.

Yet, there's more.

Well, Brian,

there is indeed more.

And

I know we,

I feel some false hope.

I think they are trying to, or somebody has the germ of something, or maybe something will happen to make MJF appealing again, based on this next segment.

We can always hope.

But MJF came out and cut a very short promo, which was refreshing again.

That everybody knows he should have won on Sunday.

It's not over with hangnail Adam Page, blah, blah, blah, blah.

But then MVP's music plays.

And MVP comes out.

And at first, they're looking at each other warily and they say, MVP, MJF.

And then they hug and they smile and they're old friends.

And it's revealed that

MVP first met MJF when he was 18 years old on an independent show.

And he knew

that there was.

And any men who could bond over Court Bauer's bad pay could be friends forever.

And he knew that there was something to MJF.

And actually, that's the same time I met MJF over Court Bauer.

Actually, I had negotiated fairly decent pay, but then I found out how long the goddamn days were.

But remember what I said to you, I said, MJF.

He asked questions.

He came and talked to the announcers at the announce position.

He was talking to the TV people about cam wrangles, how they were shooting things.

He asked, as MVP said,

when he rode with him, he met him at an independent show.

It wasn't that he asked him a million questions.

It was that he knew the questions to ask.

And he knew that he was going to be something.

He could tell this kid was on a ball.

This was before

he was, you know, shot through the heart by the bad booking.

He said that, but anyway mvp said that mjf took him to a see an hr documentary somewhere in jersey from bad brains that was pretty impressive to hear okay and tell me

that is tell me what any of that is i don't know who bad brains is or what his bad brains i thought he was talking about csny crosby stills nash and young bad brains is a band that simply put you would never like ever for any reason but i got to see him a few years ago at the shop in williamsburg uh but not the kind of thing you expect to hear name-dropped in a segment like this.

That got my attention.

Well,

I'm glad you understood it.

But nevertheless,

MVP did a brilliant job here talking to MJF about how, but now

you've lost your way.

You need to regroup.

He built him up and said he was proud of him, but what are you doing, man?

Why are you whining about Sunday?

Why aren't you angry?

Aren't you mad hurting people?

You've lost your edge.

The boys in the back don't respect you.

They don't fear you.

But they fear the hurt syndicate, and that's what you're missing.

And maybe I can help you again.

And he offered the card, which is, again, compared to the golden ticket.

But MJF, at first, he pushed the hand with the card down.

He said, I do my own thing, and I don't need your help or advice.

I was

world champion for 406 days.

And then MVP just said, focus on the word was.

And he offered the card again.

And this time MJF took it and he started thinking.

And MVP left and MJF,

there's got to be something.

Something has to be done to salvage MJF, to kind of give him a restart,

to have him be

the obnoxious heel in a derogatory and taunting and

smartass way instead of the screaming mental case heel that he's had to become.

There's got to be something to get him back in the more wins than

losses and more home run promos than

misses with these rotten stories and horrible opponents.

Could it be MVP

taking an interest in MJF as a single, managing the hurts as a team, MJF not

pulling up in the Hurtmobile and being inseparable like they're the four horsemen?

But MVP being in MJF's corner, giving him veteran advice.

The only

place that that is weak in his game is just because he's so young with the veteran advice on how to react to things and coaching and matches.

Does this completely reset him and he becomes a superstar again?

Or it's forgotten in three weeks and nobody prospers?

What do you think?

I don't know if any of these guys would agree to it if it was something that could be dropped in three weeks.

But then again, I also don't know what Jeff Jarrett is.

So what do I know?

Yeah, you know, I was hopeful for this.

And I know

even when I don't like an MJF segment, people still don't think lately that I'm mean enough about him.

I mean, it's really crazy.

Oh, yeah, now we've got to just, he's got to be boiled in oil in the fat soul for soap.

We have to completely turn our backs.

The talent is still there somewhere.

It needs produced and it needs to have not been ruined for the past two years.

And I've been saying MJF needs to be involved with different people and he needs to be involved with main eventers.

And he gets all of that here with not just MVP.

As far as I'm concerned, it's a package deal.

It's MVP and the Hurts Syndicate.

If MJF's involved with MVP,

that means there's now involvement between MJF and the Hurts Syndicate.

That could go in a number of different ways.

Well, yes.

And it, but I don't think it should be overdone because then MJF, who's always

flourished on his own,

become, I don't want him to become part of a group,

but with an

experienced veteran manager in his corner that can lead him back to the top.

And then if there was a six-man to be had or a big angle or whatever, one of the other hurts could obviously get involved.

But I think just the dynamic of having MVP and MJF together would do a world of good for MJF.

You keep saying in his corner.

Do you think he should actually work the corner?

Because usually he's been going

commentary.

Yes.

I think he should be his fucking manager.

He should be on the promos with him, not to do all of them, but to be there, he should be the guy that's giving him the veteran advice.

And the story is basically, yes, he just lost his edge because it came so quickly and so naturally to MJF.

And now MVP's the fucking coach that has to bring back the eye of the tiger or whatever and put him in the corner for big main event event matches

because you might be able to obviously use him in some crucial situation

and make it a

they could be Strangler Lewis and Luthes, for heaven's sake.

What a dynamic combination that was.

Hopefully, not Sean Michaels and Jose Lothario.

Hopefully, not that.

That is what you would not do with that thing there.

But, anywho, would you like to move on?

Oh, I would love to, yes.

Apparently, so would Max Caster, and I think he needs to because what the fuck is

they send him out to the ring to do the promo that nobody wants to hear, the chant that nobody is going to do.

They scoff boo at him,

and it's like Vince McMahon-like, cringy, bad, 2019 era WWF.

And

then he's got an open challenge.

And who answers the challenge from Max Caster?

Take a shit.

He's a fucking heel.

He's another heel.

But not against Caster because the people don't like him because he's a whiny little bitch and a fucking goof.

So they're cheering for take a shit.

who is one of their top main event heels that

caster tried to weasel out and he offered well i could just join don's family

but take a shit knocked him out covered him pulled him up at the count of two gave him a suplex and then covered him and pinned him one two three

and the fans cheered him so they they turned Take a shit babyface, one of their top heels at the expense of again again trying to bury Max Caster, a now mid-card at best heel

that people already don't like this shit to begin with.

Help me try to understand and grip all of this, Brian.

Well, first, let me start by disagreeing with you.

Again, I said it last week and you thought I was crazy.

I'm entertained by whatever the hell this is.

And

I've I'm under the impression it's Max Caster's idea and this is kind of his thing.

So now I'm really intrigued to see where this is going to go because it doesn't seem like it could go anywhere but nowhere, but I'm dying to see.

Where can it go?

He is making himself

look like an idiot, act like an idiot, get beaten in seconds by everybody that he faces.

He's going to get that chant.

I'll bet you he gets that chant.

He keeps this up a few more weeks.

I bet you one of these shows, he gets the chant.

And he's into it.

He's really into it.

It's like if Vince was punishing someone, and that someone was himself.

That's what this is because apparently he thinks this is good stuff.

So,

okay,

if this is his idea, then somebody needs to try to get him some therapy.

Jericho is not doing the silly high guys promos anymore.

I guess the learning tree has been dropped after it placed so highly in the rotten gimmick polling of the year.

But now he's doing good promos, serious promos, heel promos

against people that

nobody is going to want to see him fucking wrestle.

Gravity and Bandito.

It was a much better promo.

You can watch these.

You couldn't even watch the learning tree or the...

whatever the fuck that was.

But does anybody want to see Chris Jericho against Bandito besides the same audience that is already watching this shit again to begin with?

That will buy anything and believe anything's good.

And even if they wanted to see it, where would they see it?

Isn't that a Ring of Honor feud?

We haven't seen Chris Jericho wrestle on the show in a little while.

It's just been these promos about stuff in Ring of Honor.

Yes, because that's, you know, he's trying to lead the

next generation over there.

That's where he can serve out seven of the next nine years of his 10-year contract.

And then

we got Willow Nightingale versus Penelope Pit Stop.

And I'm going to tell you what,

there was some of the fakest shit that I've ever seen in a while in wrestling in this match and on this program in general.

But

I got to be honest with you, it was blown away in comparison.

After Willow won, Penelope jumped her and hit,

that word is used in quotation marks, hit her with the weakest chair shot I've ever seen on television across the back.

And you could hear the fans go like the air went out of them.

The big drawback is like,

it took the air out of the people.

Did you see that?

Or did you

skip this to go outside?

I saw it.

I've never seen that before on TV.

I saw it once in person at the ECW Barely Legal Pay-Per-View when I was there.

Lance Lance Storm hitting Rob Van Dam with chair shots.

It was the same thing.

What?

Was he not, was Van Dam not looking at him and Lance was scared of you?

Because normally Lance would have to apologize afterwards if it was something that was going to.

But this may have beaten that.

This was,

this was not.

Why are, again, I go back to what you say about Dusty Rhodes, you know.

Don't do shit you don't know how to do.

Don't do shit you don't know how to do, baby.

Or did Willow say, if you hit me with that chair i'm gonna kick the out of you what happened or did they say penelope you have to hit her with this chair or we're gonna fire you and she's like well i i can't do it because i'm not strong enough i don't

but anyway that was that and then penelope got some fake heat and then here came chris statlander and made the save

And then here came Megan Brain in and leveled both of them and did a big move on Statlander and stood there.

So again,

some more fakery followed by some more baby faces being left on their face.

What do you mean by fake heat?

The fake heat, as in all this shit that I'm doing to you, looks fucking fake.

Whether it's be the fake kicks or the fake punches or the...

When they just wave their fist in the air in the general vicinity of the guy's head while they're sitting on top of him,

it looks fucking fake.

It's bullshit.

I don't know why it in every match that nobody can put an end to it by just say, I'm not going to do that.

I will get on top of the guy and I will punch and kick slower, but with feeling, and it will look good like I'm trying to hurt the fucking guy.

Or I can get on there and, in high definition, 4K

fucking 3D modern television, you can see that there's six inches in between my fist and the fucking guy's head.

Jesus Christ.

Anyway, you know what?

Mercedes Moon finally got a sore throat and couldn't talk.

I wanted to bake a cake.

Yippee cay,

motherfuckers.

But then she spoke anyway.

Did you see this interview?

No, I missed this.

I have no idea what the hell you're talking about when you just went off there no okay well renee moxley good was in the back with mercedes moan

and she mercedes tried to do the say hello to your ceo but she said i i got kicked in the throat

over the weekend and she had renee do oh then in that case san diego wherever the they're at say hello to your ceo

Nobody still wanted to say hello to her.

And

Mercedes was starting to do a promo where she could she had some voice i don't know maybe she did have a sore throat and she was going to sound raspy so she was trying to limit that

but remember that girl it was on last week that we said what the did somebody from the hot dog stand just walk in it was billy starks the teenager apparently from here in louisville that's right i remember that

Well, she walked in with the oddest fuck, like the hairdo of like if you're going to Walmart to run and get a few things about 11 at night.

That hairdo and a trailer park house dress, she looked like a fucking fan that walked in.

She's not comfortable.

You can tell that on interviews.

She got it out,

but it looked like that she was worried that she was going to receive an electric shock from some kind of shock collar if she fucked it up any second.

Her eyes were darting.

And she wants a match next week.

And Mercedes said, okay.

So now we get Mercedes, who ain't worth two shits and a tickle,

versus a teenager that has no hairdo, not allowed in a makeup share yet, and was wearing a fucking house dress from West Virginia with sequins.

That's going to, that's going to put some butts in seats.

What the fuck is going on here anyway?

You missed that completely.

I'm so sorry I missed it.

And then Tony Schiavone introduced Will Osprey.

And Osprey comes out and it's a live promo in the ring.

And of course, he referred to the cage match.

And of course,

he says, Kyle Felcher will be a world champion one day.

Because that's, you know, what every great babyface would have said about every great heel after they they beat him in a cage match, but he's going to be a world champion one day.

No, the fucking guy tried to kill me and I fucking got him instead.

And I'm glad and I hope he dies.

It's a goddamn appropriate response.

But nevertheless,

Osprey went into a long bit and I got to give him this.

He's trying to have a lot of personality.

He's trying to be one of the bros, bruv.

He's trying to be the top baby face and be able to just roll these promos out.

And he did a long bit about lying to his wife that he wasn't going to do anything stupid in a cage.

And it took a while.

Brian, I'm going to say that the summation was it looked like that he was having a lot more fun telling that story than the fans were listening to it.

Didn't it to you?

It certainly did, yes.

And Tony Schiavone seemed miserable if you looked at his face during this.

Well, but now, you know what?

We've got it's resting Schiavani face at this point.

He always looks like he's had some kind of barbed wire something shoved up his ass.

But Will was laughing and

giving Tony the Vaha in the ribs, like, you know what I'm saying, bruv.

No, no, no, no, nobody was really reacting to what you were saying, bruv.

But he wants a shot at the world title and he wants it.

And when should he take take his shot?

Now, here's the thing.

He says, when should I take my shot?

When does it count the most?

Ah,

and he points up to the fucking banner, all in Texas, the stadium show.

Is that thing still in a stadium as of this moment?

As of this moment, yes.

They haven't changed it like they did the Australia show.

There have been no changes in the big all-in this summer.

Well, it's July.

How long ahead of time did they change the Australia?

I

was a couple of months.

But you know what?

They're going to have a harder time changing this one because they've sold the city of Arlington a bill of goods about how many people they were going to attract to the fucking town.

They better hope for tornado warnings.

Then they could have some kind of explanation.

But anyway, like as someone said on Twitter, like a T-Mu T-Mu WrestleMania promo, he pointed at the all-in Texas banner and said he's entering the Owen Hart tournament.

Not the,

hold on, let me check my notes, Dynasty Eliminator tournament for an international title match so that the guy who holds that can be the best in the world, but he's entering the Owen Hart tournament.

where the winner will get a world title shot so he can be the best in the world.

And he said, and I'm going to be in there with other great competition like Edge.

No reaction.

It's another babyface.

Nobody wants to see that match to begin with.

And then he mentions Swerve.

No reaction.

Who wants to see Swerve versus Osprey?

No fucking body.

Then

he mentions Moxley.

And there was a smattering of no

booze.

Like somebody just let a loud fart in the movies and you go, oh, no.

Like they were offended that that was an option.

And that's when they announced, or they may have announced it beforehand, but they reiterated that next week it would be Moxley versus Edge in a title match in a street fight.

So it's a street fight.

No DQ.

So, and Osprey just, he did the promo.

He's entering the Owen Hart tournament.

So, we pretty much know what the main event is now.

It'll be Osprey going for the world title against whoever the fuck.

And if it's Moxley, that means April, May,

four more months

of this drek.

You know, the Moxley push may be the biggest example there is of Tony Khan ignoring his fan base.

I can't think of a bigger one.

I think you're right because,

I mean, he's done a lot of bad things, but the fan base liked many of the bad things he did, especially early on before they caught a whiff of the way things were going to turn out.

And even stuff like punk that like split a portion of the fan base, you still had a lot of supporters.

With Moxley, the hardcore AEW fans don't like it.

The people who mock AEW don't like it.

Nobody seems to like it.

And Tony Kahn's insistent on it.

Maybe he just doesn't have the courage to tell Moxley, no, this sucks we're not doing it anymore i pay you a fortune do whatever the i tell you to do

but then again you then you got tony khan telling you what to do but for moxley that would probably be an improvement can't believe i said that

anyway would you like to know what the next interview backstage was oh yeah

renee with jay white

Help me.

Jay White just became a babyface and came out to help Edge, right?

He's been involved with the whole, he's been involved with everything with Edge and the Moxley crew for weeks.

Yeah.

Okay.

Well, he started out making fun of Osprey.

Another babyface and said they were protecting Osprey from him.

What?

The AEW is protecting Osprey from me.

Well, that doesn't.

And then he said, I didn't hit Edge on purpose at the pay-per-view.

Remember, he swung the briefcase, Moxley moved jay white hit edge but it wasn't on purpose and he was saying it straight not like a heel denying something

so first he's knocking another baby face saying he's they're protecting osprey from him then

he claims innocence i didn't hit edge on purpose at the pay-per-view and then

He started screaming about how he wanted to be the number one contender.

I don't know what's going on with him.

Could you understand the screaming?

I think he would be a big star in the middleweight division that I proposed earlier.

He does have that slim waist and those girlish hips.

Well, then,

Renee was in the back.

God damn, this

girl's been in more laps than a napkin.

She was in the back with Hangnail, and they were walking and he literally bumped into MJF.

Literally, and that word is being used for once appropriately.

He bumped into MJF, walking the other direction.

And Renee just looks up and runs, oh my God, and runs away.

And they proceed to talk to each other for the next, I'd say, three or four minutes.

Paige calmly telling MJF that

he knows now MJF really cares about what the fans think of him.

And MJF says, Well, I'm going to back up a little bit from you because you smell like rotten ass.

But I'm going to call your bluff hangman.

And then he goes on a long rant where MJF will go on to be a Hall of Famer and a goat, and Paige will fall short of the pinnacle and wallow in his own self-pity.

And the fans are going to get tired of waiting for Hangnail to win the big one.

But MJF, I'm going to be the world heavyweight champion over and over.

Guess that means you're going to get beat like a fucking rug because to be the champion over and over, you have to keep losing it.

I would think it would be more of a thing to be, I will be the champion that will reign more than my previous 400 days.

Nevertheless,

Paige's response to that was, well, we'll see, won't we?

These two guys were having

a snide discussion with little digs at each other's character after they fought Sunday and one guy tried to set the other guy on fucking fire.

And now they're giving each other personal digs about their

improper character.

The fuck?

Am I the only one that remembered that?

That didn't they just try to literally disembowel each other?

Yeah, it was last week, I believe.

Last week, and MJF was going to set the motherfucker on fire.

and now they're exchanging witticisms a foot away from each other.

Any comments on that before we go to the battle?

I can't justify it.

I can't add anything to it.

That's what MVP,

please save our boy.

And now it was time for the main event of the evening.

Another, hold on, let me check my notes in the Dynasty Eliminator Tournament for the international title shot,

the main event of this television show was pockets against Techi Chichero.

And they rang the bell to start the thing at 9.58, I guarantamed to you, so that it was late enough that it wouldn't get the blame for killing the quarter.

Even if the quarter died, they only got two minutes of it.

Now, the overrun should suck because Joe Schmo wasn't all, it was Modern Family again, a Modern Family rerun.

Can you believe that they seriously put that on a television show,

that they put it on a television show, period, is embarrassing, but that was their main event and a tournament match for a tournament that we're supposed to take seriously.

Yeah, I hope you don't mind.

I didn't watch that match.

That's not a main event.

I hope you don't think I fucking did.

I didn't even bother to check.

If anybody came out with a chainsaw or something during the overrun, I don't know that that happened either.

Well, we'll probably be able to figure that out when we talk about the ratings, but that was AEW Dynamite on, what was it?

It was the March 12th.

The 12th of March.

The 12th of Never.

Are they serious?

This is bad indie wrestling on television, and they don't even have

like the

ex-star that they pay a guarantee to to come in and main event to show for it.

It's just bad indie wrestling.

Well, Jim, let's talk about the ratings and let's see if these were good or bad indie ratings.

AEW Dynamite on March 12th on TBS,

8 to 10.08 p.m.

on average, watched by 628,000 viewers.

Boy, howdy, they ought to be turning cartwheels down there in Jacksonville.

They got

back up over 600.

Remember, they were 500 and something

for two weeks.

They hit 600 even last week, and they actually got 28,000 more people for this shit show.

That is, that's luck.

This is 7% up on the four-week average of 585.

Let's go to the what would they have tuned in to see here that could have been advertised ahead of time?

Or is it just

they just happened to pick a night like this to watch the show?

There's nothing.

I don't know what they advertised ahead of time, but there's nothing that could be advertised ahead of time.

No match.

Well, again, we hear from so-and-so.

Well, although let's comparing it to last week, we have to bring up they were against NXT in a lot of places last week.

So that's very true because they were bouncing back and forth as

we saw all over the place.

And it killed the key demo.

But let's go to the ratings here.

These were other, yeah, these are television ratings.

That is indeed the word.

Yes,

that's the word that we normally use every week here in this segment.

These were compiled by WrestleNomics, quarter one, eight to eight fifteen p.m.

The Kenny Omega live promo,

Eli Thesis, Gabriel Arios, or Eros, and Vinny Pacifico

versus the Ops,

the Ricochet Backstage Promo, and the Swerve Strickland Backstage Promo,

749,000 viewers.

Okay,

I think they started out a little bit better than last week from what I recall.

Not the eights and nines that they used to have, but those days are gone.

The Big Bang theory got poisoned.

But

they're going to lose some fucking viewers over the course of this thing if that's where they're starting.

Well, we go to quarter two, 8:15, 8:30 p.m.

The Swerve Strickland Cope backstage confrontation, the Jon Moxley backstage promo, and the start of Brian Cage and Dralistico versus Powerhouse Hobbs and Hologram.

604,000 viewers.

Oh, good Lord.

Okay.

Now let me reevaluate that.

They lost 145,000 people in the first 15 minutes.

Now where they are,

They're going to have to stay fairly steady until at least the last couple quarters of this thing to be able to make the average.

Well, we go to quarter three: 8:30 to 8:45 p.m.,

the continuation of Cage and Drew Istico versus Hobbs and Hologram, the post-match with Lance Archer and Mark Davis, the Hurts Syndicate Backstage promo, and the Tony Storm Mariah Mae video, followed by Storm Megan Bain Rampangle, and an ad break,

645,000 viewers.

So the girls brought back 41,000 sexually frustrated AEW fans.

What I can read into that.

Well, we go to quarter four, 8:45 to 9 p.m.

What is there for just for us frustrated wrestling fans?

The Beast Mortos versus Speedball Mike Bailey with picture and paper.

Speed Bailey.

And it just ought to be Speed Bailey.

With picture and picture, 611,000 viewers.

Also, the low point in the key demo, 198,000.

And

I mean, I would expect the last quarter or two to be lower than this just because of the

stinky show leading up to it.

But again, who's going to watch this fucking bull in a mask against a guy that we've never seen that looks like he's in the sixth grade?

It'll be interesting to see who stays to watch him the next time he's on.

We go now to to the big nine o'clock hour, quarter five, nine to nine.15 p.m.

Continuation of Beast vs.

Bailey,

the Patriarchy backstage angle, the MJF backstage angle, and the MJF MVP live promo,

649,000 viewers.

And

the high point in the key demo, 244.

So they went from the outhouse to the penthouse in the key demo in two segments.

And at the top of the hour, they gained 38,000 people to get them back a little bit over where they were in quarter three.

And it was MJF.

He still means a little something till they get finished stomping those embers out.

Well, we go now to quarter six, 9.15 to 9.30 p.m.

An ad break.

The Max Caster live promo.

Caster versus Takesha, a revolution recap, the Chris Jericho backstage backstage promo, and the start of Penelope Ford versus Willow Nightingale with picture-in-picture,

634,000 viewers.

And back down 15.

They're still in the pocket from quarter two on.

They've been between 604 and 649.

And I have my suspicions, but I'll wait for 7 and 8 and the overrun to tell you.

Let's go to quarter seven, 9:30 to 9:45 p.m.

The continuation of Ford versus Willow, the post-match with Megan Bain,

the Mercedes-Monet Billy Starks backstage angle, and the Will Osprey live promo,

608,000 viewers.

And still in that same pocket.

And now quarter eight has to fall off the cliff.

We're going out of quarter eight.

I remind you, we have an eight-minute overrun.

Quarter eight, 9.45 to 10 p.m.

The Jay White White backstage promo, an ad break, Adam Page and MJF's backstage angle, and the start of Orange Cassidy versus Hetchichero with picture and picture, 570,000 viewers.

Eight-minute overrun, including the post-match with speed ball Mike Bailey,

535,000 viewers.

Oh, good lord.

So the lowest quarter hour was the the last, as I figured, but then they managed to run 35,000 people off the overrun.

Not only did nobody tune in to watch Modern Family, but the people that were already watching this fucking show wouldn't hang with it because of pockets.

This is what we've got now.

They used to start a few years ago with the Big Bang lead-in that was 800 and something thousand or 900 and something thousand,

and they would lose

viewership pretty steadily through the show but because they started higher they were still ending up at a sixes or sevens and and that was considered crummy at the end of the show

now what they've done

is they've they're starting lower but they're still losing

usually a good chunk of people after the first 15 minutes that just didn't

They didn't bargain for anything like this, but they're more consistent now because they are down to

the people that are going to watch this show because this is the kind of wrestling that they like or they hope it's going to be good or they're more devoted.

And they might bounce back and forth a little bit, but after the first quarter,

until quarter eight,

they were between 604 and 649,000 people.

And it goes back and forth rather than just being a continuous downhill drop that like it used to be.

So I think this is the base audience.

And then

quarter eight losing another 38,000, being 570, and then another 35,000 for the overrun.

That's when the base audience of 600 and

something thousand

sees that, okay, the only thing that's left is something that we don't even want to see.

And then they lose about 75,000 of those.

But otherwise,

if this many people are watching this show, they're watching it on purpose.

They don't care whether it's any good or not because these shows have been worse and worse.

So, this to me

seems like it's the base audience.

They're going to have to really fuck up

in some kind of major way to lose a significant portion of the 600, 650,000 they've got left.

Don't you think?

If I'm reading this chart correctly, there's a WrestleNomics chart here.

And it seems to to indicate this past week that we just reviewed was down 19% off of last year, the same week.

And if you look at the entire year, 24, the entire year, was 18% less than 23.

And so far, 25 is 25% less than 24.

And that's the first quarter of the year, by and large.

Yeah.

I mean, you know, they have lost audience every year

because

of all the reasons we've said, how much can you, how long can you watch the same goddamn thing?

The same kind of matches, the same way, and they've done everything.

But

they're going to get a baseline to where that,

you know, this is the amount of people that will watch or tolerate or get into.

or be interested in indie wrestling in

the United States.

And

that's about where they're at now.

They might lose small numbers at a time now, but I don't think they can do almost anything and run to wrest these people off because this is what those people like.

They think it's good.

So we'll see.

You know,

in a year, we'll see if we're talking about their starting in the sixes and ending in the fours instead of starting in the sixes and ending in the fives.

Well, those are the ratings, AEW Dynamite.

We'll see what happens next week.

And this is your show.

Did we start in the good stuff and end in the bad stuff?

I'm not sure.

It's all the main event in my eyes.

That's what I say.

Well, in that case, folks, tune in in a few days to the next drive-through for more main events, and then tune in in the next week for another Jim Cornette experience in a main event.

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