Episode 529: Jim Reviews AEW Dynasty

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He's in a fight for wrestling solar using a racket and some mind controller.

He's Jim Cornette.

The keys to the future, held by the past.

And with tag team partner, Barion Last, he sends this message out by podcast.

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Well, he's never fake a phony.

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He never wins the pony.

Cause his mama raised him right.

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Hello again, everybody, and welcome to another exciting episode of the Jim Cornette Experience.

It's one of these shows where we know where we're starting.

We got no idea where we're finishing, but we're going to figure it out by the time we get there.

And joining me to talk about all of nothing and more.

Hawaii and Brian, the podcasting lion, the king of the Arcadian Vanguard Podcast Network, Mr.

Co-host to you.

He's my MFT, a major freak and troublemaker, the great Brian Last, everybody.

Aloha, Jim.

A pleasure to be here once again.

Is that what MFT stands for?

They never really spelled it out.

I don't know.

Here, that's what I'm going to ask you here at the top of the program in front of all the universal listeners.

You're a hep young cat.

You're a suave and deboner man about town.

You're an international yacht broker from Toulon, France.

You know what all the young, the swinging kids are talking their Zoot suits or saying these days, what the fuck is an MFT?

I don't know.

I'm out of touch when it comes to this.

You mean to tell me they just made up initials?

I'm sure they didn't.

It took me a lot.

I figured I thought BFF for the longest time was boy fucking friend.

I didn't, I don't know.

What?

I don't know what the.

And now,

where are you?

It doesn't look like anything you'd come up with that that just very

to your eye, you would I googled what is an MFT?

It is a marriage and family therapist.

I don't see how that applies here to you.

In this country, it is family.

It is family.

It is family.

Maybe he's a family therapist.

This is just his unique way of bringing family back together.

What's it just?

I thought this was one of those.

Fucking hip initials for things that all the kids were tweeting about and doing the Facebook thing and the MySpace and

getting

on the TikTok thing about it.

And it was on the tip of everybody's tongue, and they were talking about it at all the rap music awards and everything.

Is it

family, what is it, M family therapist?

What's the M?

It is a marriage and family therapist.

Another thing here says an MFT is a mental health professional trained in psychotherapy and family systems.

Is this

a little deep for the Bloodline saga right now?

Yeah, it's not coming out.

What is MFT slang?

Let's do that.

Well, do it right away.

MFT

stands for my first tour.

Master of foreign trade.

Tamatonga.

You know, he got in with the bigwigs over in Japan, and now he's a master of foreign trade.

Multiple file transfer.

Not one of these applies.

How could this not be something that pops up?

Have we even identified what we're talking about for the people that don't actually watch these crummy wrestling programs for a regular living?

Mature fine-tailings.

No, as multiple.

Wait a minute.

Now, Solo Sokoa has called as branded Tama Tonga

his MFT on SmackDown.

And what, how in Paul Heyman seemed to instantly know and was horrified by the whole thing.

It's like he was fucking

what you call it.

Who was the cleaner in Pulp Fiction that came in and

Harvey Keitel?

Harvey Keitel.

Yeah, it looked like he saw Harvey Keitel come in to clean up the fucking body.

Well, he heard it was a therapist.

Again, marriage and family therapist.

Oh, God, the therapist is here.

This guy's going to deconstruct me in two seconds.

No,

let me tell you, if Sigmund Frund was still alive,

why he could retire off of Heyman.

It would take him years to get inside that fucking once you penetrated the layers of suet around the brain.

Anyway, come on, what is wrong?

But anyway, we're going to talk about, we're going to talk about the SmackDown.

What could it stand for, though?

What could it like?

It has to be something like my tough friend.

Well, that wouldn't be.

That would be MTO.

My friend Toughy.

My friend is tough.

My friend.

I like mine.

Major fucking Troublemaker.

I couldn't say fucking at the top of the program, or they'd put one of those annoying bleeps in on YouTube, but major fucking troublemaker.

I think

it's better than anybody else has come up with on Google.

Talking to your friend Al over there.

Jim, I have an update as we get going with this show.

No time better than the present to give an update in real time.

We just put up a video from a few episodes ago ago of you talking about Johnny Devine divining himself.

Yes.

Pretty funny story.

Here's a post on Twitter: a comment.

Jim, it's Johnny Devine.

That front desk girl falsely accused me of sexual harassment.

It ended up almost getting me fired.

It's nothing to the biz,

but it was something to me that the company threw me under the bus.

But you are correct.

I stooged myself for a small bullshit accusation.

Well, there he is.

Hello, Johnny Devine.

Hello, Johnny.

Oh, hello, Johnny.

It's so nice to have you back where you belong.

Wherever that is.

I would have done it like Louis Armstrong, but I'd rather do it like Ethel Merman.

Well, you certainly sounded more like Ethel Merman.

I agree with that.

But

it's good to hear from Johnny that I can't say he didn't say whether or not he's doing well.

I hope he is, but at least he's still around.

He's breathing.

So he's got that good, but yeah,

he did stooge himself right off that day.

But it was, it's terrible.

You know, these front desk clerks at these Holiday Inn Expresses,

for heaven's sake, they just willy-nilly bandy these accusations around.

Yeah, I asked for a key and she accused me of sexual harassment.

It was her key.

But anyway, I'll tell you what, I have had a wonderful weekend so far.

Until I start talking to you, I'm sure things will go downhill from here.

But yesterday, as we sit here speaking to each other, I don't know when the audience might hear this,

but

we're a day away from thunder over Louisville.

Yesterday was Thunder Day.

The official start of the Kentucky Derby Festival.

The next two weeks of mayhem here, the balloon races and the steamboat races and the festivals and celebrations and everything.

But the Thunderway was broadcast.

I've told you a hundred times I love

local television, right?

And this is great local TV, and I don't mean it in a campy, bad, great way,

but they go all out for this because the Thunder celebrate, they close the 2nd Street Bridge for like two days, and they close the other bridge for 12 hours or whatever.

It's an interstate.

And he said, fuck it.

Go around.

And they set up the world's largest,

or not the world's, but the North America's largest annual fireworks display.

And for 30 minutes from 9:30 to 10 o'clock Eastern Time, they blow up the fucking Ohio River.

It looks like daylight out there.

And they broadcast it on television, WDRB, my weather station here.

They use 25 cameras positioned in two different states, both sides of the Ohio.

They had three different

set locations around the area and seeing the people at the Great Lawn and the Belvedere and blah, blah, blah.

And what a fucking production.

And they do documentary pieces on the

manufacture of all the fireworks and how they're trucked down here.

And they

show them setting them up.

And

Wayne Hedinger is the

guy that uh is the fireworks

major domo i can't remember what his title is but he's in charge of the whole goddamn thing every year the producer of thunder

and

goddamn he's all over everywhere all over the new and then they do the countdown they've got the command center high atop the galt house overlooking the river and they've got the fucking colored buttons and lights and every okay so-and-so department calls in and the light turns green Go!

And they do about eight or nine of those on the countdown.

And then

every year, some

hillbilly or just mental deficient wins the contest to be the one to turn the goddamn key.

And they're scared to death to be on television.

This guy looked like he had just come from a North Dakota militia fucking reunion, long gray beard.

And

fuck it.

He was scared to death to be on television.

and I don't know if he ever

I think they grabbed his hand and made him turn it but the whoever wins the contest gets to turn the official firing key and then for the next 30 minutes they they blow the river up but it's amazing spectacle to watch on live local television don't try to go down there especially since we just had all these goddamn rains they just reclaimed six feet of riverfront when the water receded and had to send people down there to scrape off all the mud and the goddamn tree stumps and limbs and shit that had washed up on shore.

And then people spread their blankets out to watch the fireworks or stay home and watch it on TV.

It does a wonderful rating.

The only

TV program in Louisville over this entire calendar year that will do a bigger rating than the Thunder Fireworks is a Kentucky Derby.

I learned that when we had to have have our Saturday night ratings obliterated twice a year by Thunder Over Louisville and the Kentucky Derby.

But anyway, aren't you jealous you missed that, Brian?

No, not really.

Was Randy Acher there?

No, no, he's your favorite.

He's been dead for 20 years now.

Thank you for reminding me.

One of my childhood heroes, the same

way Randy Acher.

I love local TV.

I just don't know when any of my favorites die by a decade.

Well,

he had moved to Florida.

And in my defense, I was in one of these wrestling promotion fucking comas of mine, and I wasn't reading the papers.

But anyway, I had a wonderful thunder day.

Not only that, I didn't watch the air show before.

They got the fighter pilots and the stunt planes and blah, blah, blah.

But it was a beautiful day.

70 degrees, sunny, nice breeze.

The Monroes showed up at 9 o'clock in the morning with 7,000 pounds of creek stone

in three

fucking trips.

They ferried it to the backyard where underneath the back corner of my castle grounds, there's a wonderful oak tree.

I remember when I was a kid, it was a little sapling.

It wasn't 10 feet tall.

And now I'm not a kid anymore, and this fucking thing's 60 feet tall.

But it's still young for a maple tree.

It's going to get about twice as big around at the trunk as it is now.

But it's just beautiful.

And they're making me a nice little creekstone mulch ring and sitting bench with a patio next to it, a little fire pit, so I can go back there and roast weenies if I want to.

And then I got out and sprayed some weed killer and got on my hands and knees, Brian, communed with nature, weeded the dogwood, the mulch bed under the dogwood tree and the front flower bed.

And then I'll have, you know, in celebration of spring having sprung and it being thunder night.

Not only did we have dinner of barbecued chicken and barbecued shrimp skewers and my world-famous roast potatoes, Stacey handled the barbecuing.

I handled the roasting and baked beans and watched the fireworks, but Stacey made homemade ice cream,

French vanilla,

which was

dangerously good to the point where I would hurt myself probably if I was exposed to too much of it on a regular basis.

What'd you do yesterday?

Yesterday I hung out with the kids and did some work in the office and cleaned up a little bit.

Had a good day.

No homemade ice cream.

No, no homemade ice cream.

No North America's largest annual fireworks display.

That seems disturbing.

No, it was a nice relaxing night and Wolfman was on Svengooli.

So I got to watch one of the early classics, Lon Cheney Jr.

Well, it sounded better now.

Keep going.

That was, you know, that ended at 10.30.

I don't know where you are.

And then Batman started, and it was John Aston as the Riddler, not

the Riddler.

Not Frank Gorshin.

That's right.

That's terrible.

You know, you would have thought that once these people signed up for that role first, that no matter what they were doing in their lives, they would make themselves available to come back to Batman.

It was only two seasons, and for God's sake, that's how everybody remembers all of these people, except for John Aston, who was Gomez Adams and shouldn't have been anywhere near Batman, because that's Worlds Colliding.

Son of a bitch.

Anyway, would you like to move on?

We can only move on.

We can only move.

It can only get better from here.

Actually, no, it can't.

It can get sadder from here.

And he get a kick out of this when he hears it.

But we wanted to say, get well soon, feel better

to our friend Rob Moore down in Greenville, Texas, who's been in the hospital lately.

And

I heard from him.

He sent an email, and I just wanted to for officially, because he's he predates the podcast.

He liked me back when I didn't want anybody to like me, and I didn't have to worry about it because nobody did.

Back when I was a mere heel manager.

he's one of the OG

cornet people.

So, and Rob, you got to get better soon

so that you can come up again with more ways to get me sued.

You remember Rob.

I like Rob.

Rob's a good guy.

He should bring back the Dingo Warrior fan club.

I think there's still time.

Well,

you know, it...

It was

a big boom at the start, but then slowly, as he changed his name from Dingo Dingo Warrior to the Ultimate Warrior, the Dingoites trickled away.

You know, there are sometimes I've seen a few pictures, I don't even know if they're his,

of,

I want to say it was Brody, but maybe a few different wrestlers, you know, about to enter the, you know, you know, the building better than me, but about to enter the main area where all the fans are in the sportatorium.

Yeah.

And he's just standing in the background in the 80s.

You know, he was there for a lot of big moments at the sportatorium.

Oh, yeah.

As a matter of fact, they got really pissed at him.

The janitors and the people at the sportatorium, because he stood in that same place, Rob did.

Oh, stop it.

See,

now, why do you got to mess with him now?

No,

he stood in the same place, not only when the shows were going on, but after the show was gone, he wouldn't leave.

He brought like a cooler and a blanket, and he stayed there during the week until he'd have that spot.

It took four or five years of his life, but he managed to be right there for every iconic moment.

Anyway,

feel better, Rob.

Feel better.

The show can only get better, Rob.

Please stay tuned.

And by the way, happy birthday, Pete Letterberg.

I'll throw that out there, too, while we're doing it.

Oh, well, how old is he now?

84?

63

from what I saw on Facebook.

Well, now, is that verified?

Can we get any documentation on that?

Because Pete's always looked older than me, and I'll be 63 this year.

Interesting.

Pete looked 40 when he was 20 because I knew him then.

Again, no matter what it is, whether it's a birthday or an illness, he'll just start insulting you until

he thinks of Paul Heyman and starts insulting him.

No, Pete's always looked better than Paul Heyman,

for heaven's sake.

But no, Pete's always been an adult, mature, intelligent.

You know, he teaches mathematics.

He's got a very analytical mind.

Maybe he's the one that they should have given $10 billion to to start a wrestling company that's into the

analystics and the statistics.

Are you into statistics, Brian?

And analytics, of course.

Well, anyway, what are these statistics?

You're telling me that there's some news going on in the world.

Before we get to the television programs lately, we're going to catch up on a few of these.

And by the way, then we're going to talk about by the time we get finished with this program, the AEW pay-per-view that has not happened yet.

That happens this evening.

We're going to take a break, travel through time, blah, blah, blah.

Get your earmuffs now for the time machine.

But I'm hearing that it's made the news that the brand new Japanese girls, women's, female, whatever the terminology they use over there is,

idols,

wrestling promotion, Joshis,

Puros, whatever the fuck.

That promotion has opened up from our friend who, what's his name, J.R.

Rossi?

Rossi O'Gower and he's not our friend I don't know him and he may be your friend I don't know you tell me well I don't know here's the thing

I'm pretty sure that I couldn't have picked this guy out of a police lineup six months ago I don't remember I maybe have heard I don't pay attention to the Japanese women's wrestling promotions of apparently which he is the the guy that just left stardom we talked about but the point being is six months ago i don't know who the fuck this guy was and now

you're hearing about him constantly.

He's leaving stardom.

He's starting his own promotion.

He's lunching with Triple H.

He's meeting with the Pope.

Where did this guy come from?

Why is it?

Is he a big deal now?

And

what is the name of his promotion?

Japanese girl wrestling

dandelions.

What the fuck is this?

Well, Jim Rossiagawa, who again was, I think he was the the owner of Stardom, and then

Starnum.

He's the guy that he had the Stirnum injury.

It sounds like a Japanese promotion at this point.

Sternum, but he was the president of Stardom, and then he sold it to Bushy Road, who owns New Japan, and then he worked for them, and then they fired him, accusing him of trying to recruit people to start his new company.

And then he started his new company.

And then he started his new company

with Julia.

He proved them wrong.

And he has Julia, who's about to start with NXT, and she was just with him at WrestleMania.

There were photos.

A very awkward one with Asuka, where she didn't look too pleased, because there is a history there.

And I don't know too much to talk to it.

But here is the press release

for

what is known as

Dreamstar Fighting Marigold.

Okay.

All right.

Let's stop.

Let's go to this press release.

Wait, no, stop there.

Stop there.

Dream star fighting marigold?

What?

I know it's another.

He's a big Fred Kohler fan.

He's a big Fred Kohler fan, and he remembers the marigold.

The Marigold Gardens this Tuesday night.

No,

I understand it's a different culture.

It's a different language.

Maybe things translate differently

when they're using English words than in a stuff.

Tell me what the fuck Dreamstar fighting marigold.

What does marigold mean in Japan that would make it make sense after the dream, the star, and the fighting?

I'm not exactly sure.

Can you Google that?

Well, according to what I'm reading,

their first event coming up will be Marigold Fields Forever.

Oh, come on.

On May 20th, 2024, a carkin hole.

I'm hanging up.

What do you mean?

You're ribbing me for the goddamn blooper reel or something.

something.

Marigold Fields Forever will be their first.

Somebody is yanking our chain here.

They've sent you this fucking press release as a rib to see if we will go along with it and make fools of ourselves.

This cannot be real.

Well, apparently this is real.

I'm clicking links here to see.

Oh, no, this is a video of the press conference.

We don't need that right now.

Here's a press release.

Tokyo, Rossi Ogawa's new women's wrestling organization, Marigold, all in caps, will hold its inaugural event on May 20th, 2024 at Karakin Hall in Tokyo.

The card will air live on the Wrestle Universe streaming app with both English and Japanese commentary options.

Now, is this a widely

available?

I guess everything's widely available as an app, but is this a widely viewed app?

This

app they're on?

I have no idea.

And that's not even the announcement of the company.

That's just the announcement of the first event.

Well, they're up and running.

And

they'll be there on Marigold Fields forever or until you sell your company and start another company and take it.

Let me take you down because I'm going to.

There was something I saw.

I got to find it.

Vamp for a moment, Jim.

Did you see the thing about their hiring practices, like who they're recruiting?

No,

of course, in the press kit that I received in the mail, I have all the information right here at my fingers.

Didn't know I didn't see anything about it.

Do you think I got a recruitment letter?

Or is it a draft?

Do they like send letters out to miscellaneous young Japanese women?

You are hereby ordered to appear.

Greetings.

Is it mandatory?

What is the recruiting process for

the marigolders?

Well, according to what they announced, they will be recruiting for the new promotion via auditions.

They're looking for young unmarried women the age between 13 and 30.

Oh, come on.

So there's two things there, obviously.

Can you come out?

Well, can, but first, can you just come out and say we're looking for women, women 13 and up

to train to

regardless of whether it's a shoot or a work, a hard physical,

are they still allowing that?

We've heard all these stories about Riho and all these other small children and seen the video having these matches.

Is this a thing you can put right out in a fucking newspaper over there that you're doing?

And nobody comes knocking, knocking, knocking on your door.

It is crazy.

Now, again, the history of Japanese women's wrestling, and I'm not comparing now to then we're in different times, but traditionally they started them young and they had to retire by what, 26, right?

It was a forced retirement.

Yes, but all those girls seemed to be

what, 16 at least in those days, 16 to 26.

It was a teeny bopper kind of thing, but 13

and then nine-year-olds or whatever.

Well, at least he didn't say nine and up.

But yes, a couple troubling things there.

Well, the unmarried part, too, the idea that they don't want anyone who's attached in a relationship.

That's telling.

Well,

there,

you can't, again, some of these things you're just not supposed to come out and say.

The idea was it's the same principle as in the 70s.

Nobody wanted Sean Cassidy or Leaf Garrett or, you know, Marty Giannetti or any of the

young teeny bopper idols, the record companies or the movie producers or whoever the fuck didn't want people to know they were married because that diminishes the appeal to the teeny bopper girls but you can't just come out and say no that's a fucking

prerequisite just kfabe it or hide it or

well yeah you can't kfabe anything in in these days but

i i don't know what how does this fly over there as a statement that a

company can put out in public

well we shall see i mean I guess it's a cultural thing,

if anything.

What does it say about

parents?

And I know, again,

we've just talked about Terry Gordy.

He was 13 or 14 years old when he started trading.

He was six feet tall and 220 pounds or whatever he was, also.

And it was outside Chattanooga.

But a 13, 14, 15, 16-year-old girl in any country

that is, what are their parents thinking that

they're not training for

a legitimate sport where, yes, injuries are goddamn possible, but

I would think the injury rate in wrestling where you're falling down on purpose and picking people up and throwing them down on purpose,

you know,

why would you want your kids to do that with who?

Who would be be doing that with them?

It would be my first question.

And this,

I don't know specifically if it's just one picture I saw, but a lot of these

indie Japanese wrestling promoters look like the goddamn heels in the fucking Raymond Chow flicks.

Right?

A little fucking squirrely.

Well, Rossi Ogawa certainly has a look to him.

It's a villain, like a little bit of a villain, I must say.

What should I wear to this big event?

I know.

I'll dress sinister.

It's the sinister ball.

But I've, you know, so

I do.

And the people,

good Lord, the people that support

the idea here in this country, in the United States, of these

young girls, oh, it's wonderful they can go and

fulfill their dreams under the auspices of this golden harvest fucking movie villain.

And who knows who his trainers are when they're 13 years old and bump around and do the brain buster and everything.

They support that type of behavior,

but yet

they are fucking highly offended at social issues over here that are mostly,

in some cases, overblown.

I'm just wondering where the disconnect is.

You're juggling a lot.

Full-time job, side hustle, maybe a family.

And now you're thinking about grad school?

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Well, Jim, on this topic, this is some interesting stuff.

I have not heard all of it.

I've seen these clips, but I've had a busy few days, so we'll play it on the air.

Kenny Omega,

who's in the middle of his babyface run of a video game streamer.

Yeah, yeah, he

actually started, what do the kids say, spitting facts?

He actually started

making me re-evaluate my opinion of him with some of the things he said the other day and in between

people getting teabagged in his video game or whatever.

Well, apparently he spoke about Rossi Ogawa and this new company.

I see the clip here.

I'll press play in a second.

We have a few clips.

Well, you would think he would be familiar, if anybody was here on this.

soil with the Japanese independent women's wrestling scene over there.

Yeah, you would think so.

And he has Michael Nakazawa behind him.

Oh, good.

I'm sure he does.

And from what's been written to me here, Michael's nodding along the whole time.

So let's play this.

We have a few parts and stop it whenever you want, Jim.

Kenny Omega playing video games.

I don't know about the game.

Talking about Rossi Ogawa.

Teabaggery to come.

I don't care about Rossi being an e-drone.

I mean, whatever.

It's no big deal.

That's his.

He's done.

That's not even the tip of the icebone.

Guys,

just you freaking wait.

Just you freaking wait.

If you guys are still interested in wrestling and you're still kind of listening to the stories and reading stuff, when it finally comes out, oh, when it finally comes out.

Let me stop there for a moment.

It's like,

what the fuck is he alluding to?

He was audibly gasping and gulping.

And normally

he's very breathy, but he's not gasping and gulping.

And in the video, he's shaking his head, disapproving no, as he's saying these things.

So let's go back to this.

And there's a plane going over my head.

And I have the window open.

So it sounds like Shea Stadium.

Hold on.

We're going to play this.

It's leaving in five, four, three,

two, one.

A lot of people that refuse to work with him for the very same reason.

Some of those people are even in WWE.

Some of those people are in AEW.

And they have a very good reason.

It's not just like, yeah, I decided to wake up and not like this guy.

Oh.

Yep.

And hey, let me stop right there.

So in WWE and AEW, there are women, and obviously there are Japanese women wrestlers there but there are also american women who have worked there extensively who didn't just wake up one morning and decide i don't like rossi ogawa something happened yeah

and that's what he's saying right well that's exactly what he's saying and if he starts out with

oh you don't know the thing when the stories come out stories come out on this guy and

then you've talked about it that there is some some history that maybe we should research at this point with Oscar up there in the WWE and that she didn't she at one point

leave a company

over this guy.

But

what the fuck is he talking about?

Yeah, at one point, I think I remember, and again, we'll look into this.

I think Osuka once like put out a social media post saying that stardom began as a reaction to her.

Like something.

That's right.

That's what it was.

That's what it was.

And then she came to the States and she became a big star here, but

something made her do that.

But let's go back to Kenny Omega with Michael Nakazawa.

I don't know if he's in his bathrobe or what's going on here, but let's go back to this.

Nodding along.

If you want to know sort of along what lines they tread amongst, The dude just flat out said, hey, we're looking for girls from like ages 13 to 21 that don't have a boyfriend or aren't married.

we already know that he puts underage girls in very revealing swimsuit calendars and books

and i wish that's all he did oh

all right let's stop it there for a moment there's more audio to play but

wow

and

bear in mind we have to point out

the conflict of interest of a guy that had a match with a nine-year-old girl in front of people is saying these things, but at least that was a wrestling match.

Maybe they were

only an offense to the fucking business rather than

maybe some of the girls that Kenny was working with over there confided with him on this stuff.

And again, he ran the women's division and he brought a lot of his friends over.

He does seem to be someone that would elicit girl talk from.

troubled people.

He just said that Rossio Gau was looking for young, unattached women, and he puts underage girls in swimsuit calendars, and that's not even the tip of the iceberg.

And what was it?

Was the I wish that's all he did?

Yeah.

Well, hold on.

We have more.

Let's go to more.

Please, I'm hooked now there, Fisherman.

This is the biggest babyface turn of all time.

Kenny Omega as a video game streamer.

Let's go to this.

He's adding, well, I shouldn't say anything.

Let's go to this.

From someone who lived it, breathed it, who has very close friends in the industry, I don't mean necessarily wrestling industry, I mean the industry,

I mean like the government-issued press

and the information that they know.

I'm just gonna leave it at that.

I would say don't be so quick to listen to praise

for that individual because someday,

not sure when it'll be, maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but someday,

people will know the truth.

And

what they do with that truth, I don't know.

Will they share it?

But a lot of the higher-ups in Japan, from Japan, they know exactly what kind of business he's up to

and

what he's been up to for decades.

All I gotta say.

All I gotta say.

Well, that seems to be enough.

Jeez, what he's been up to for decades.

The higher-ups have always known about it.

What is going on?

And after hearing this, how could anyone root for the guy?

Jesus.

Well,

you know, there's going to be people out there saying, Oh, I've never believed a word that comes out of Kenny's mouth until now because it's detrimental to the guy that's featuring our favorite wrestlers.

But he's

the one thing we've always admitted that Kenny was well-versed on and up to date on was where to find Japanese indie wrestling women wrestlers.

And apparently,

that talent, quote unquote, has come in useful for once.

And I wonder if

can you, does

TKO or

WWE or Nick Kahn or Mark Shapiro or the Pope need to investigate who they're doing business with with this guy?

Or do they just want to get Julia away from him and then they can say Sayonara?

Well, hold on.

Here's another quick clip, apparently.

Let's go to this.

My only comment:

I'm just gonna say, I'm with Asuka.

That's it.

I'm with Asuka.

Always have been.

We bros.

And

she got her reasons, and it was probably the same one as mine.

My only comment.

Well, let me stop it there.

I was about to repeat, but he's saying he's with Asuka, and she probably has the same reasons as him.

Well, you know, it makes you think, you know, Kenny Omega, AEW, EVP, although he basically shadow over his EVP role last time we heard audio from him.

But makes you think Tony Khan must know too.

And Tony Khan was in celebratory mode when Rossi Ogawa got fired.

Oh, that's right.

Right?

That's right.

Tony must know, too.

Yeah.

Well, if because...

Obviously, Tony would have, this is someone apparently that Tony would have wanted to do business with running outlaw shows in Japan.

You got to get a hold of that guy.

So Kenny probably had to smarten him up at some point.

Hmm.

Wow.

Well,

again,

if he'll, if he'll stay out of the ring and we can just hear him actually be honest about these various things that he might know something about, maybe Kenny has a future with us.

Next week's show looks really good.

Kenny Omega captures Jose Gonzalez and tortures him.

He really's turning babyface this guy.

Oh, and then he's going to bring back seven kittens and a puppy for his friends to adopt from Barbados or wherever the fuck.

Kenny Omega forces Michael Nakazawa to eat his NDA live on a stream while he plays Street Fighter VI.

That's the other thing.

He's telling us serious stuff, and you hear like,

I assumed there was some tea bagging going on

now we know what that is also

on Twitter everybody sent

it's it's when you hit some control that makes the character jump up and down but you're on top of the guy so it looks like as as one person described like you are leaping up and forcefully dropping your testicles in their face.

Unquote.

Yeah, they don't really have that option in MLB the show, and I don't remember that in Red Dead.

And certainly when I was playing these good games, I wasn't looking for ways to drop my testicles on my opponent's face.

And they didn't have it in Tetris either.

They didn't have it in Tetris, at least not.

All right, well, we'll stay on top of the

Marigold Dreamstar fighting news, as well as the Kenny Omega video game streaming news.

As well as hopefully the stories that I would appreciate if they would come out in the near future so that we could all be

shocked and mortified as he claimed we would be.

But apparently it's worth the wait.

Well, he laid it out there.

I mean,

if there's not something,

I mean, geez.

I mean, you know.

He all but said this guy's a pedophile.

Let's just be no, come on now.

He all but said this guy likes underage girls.

But he did not say that.

He all but said that.

All but said that.

Well, all but is, I don't believe is actionable of course we can contact or possibly he may have to contact stephen p i bet nobody will action this though but stephen p new new law office.com 87750 steve

but

i have a feeling that rossi ogawa probably wouldn't want to go through discovery same as a few other weasels that we know oh you should hear steve in action unbelievable

Well, you should have seen what I heard that he did the other day.

But nevertheless,

while we're on the subject of

wild, shocking statements, I guess that may be the best transition.

We talked about

something like this several months ago.

But now, apparently, some

either reputable or formerly reputable publication or entity

has reported a valuation of AEW wrestling.

And Brian, so of course, then the people who like that kind of thing have taken it and run with it.

But if you examine the situation and you see where

the information came from, it mitigates it somewhat.

But was it Forbes?

Forbes online, not magazine, they didn't, maybe didn't want to put it on paper, has said that AEW is valued at $2 billion?

That is correct.

Forbes just put up an article, April 18th, 2024, The Most Valuable Combat Sports Promotions 2024

by Mike Ozanian and Justin Teitelbaum.

Well, those got to be assumed names.

Nobody wanted to put their fucking name on this.

I'm just quickly reading through the early part here to see if they explain how they came to these conclusions.

Well, I heard one of their sources was Uncle Dave.

But while you're scanning through that,

we'll talk about this in a couple of departments, but this has led

to people going out of their minds on Twitter or whatever about, well, that's why Vince has $2 billion.

He's going to buy AEW.

Have you seen this yet?

I have none.

It's ridiculous because Tony wouldn't sell it to him.

Well, but like Vince would spend his $2 billion to buy this.

I mean, there's so many things wrong with this.

Oh my God.

But do you have your information there?

I have my information here.

We'll get to wrestling, but why don't we go in order until we get there?

Number one on the list worth $11.3 billion

is the UFC.

Their 2023 revenue,

$1.29 billion.

Their operator, Dana, Daner, Dana White.

And their top draws are, and it looks like a few of the fighters here.

Number two on the list, $6.8 billion for WWE.

Their 2023 revenue, $1.33 billion, which is above the UFC, actually.

Yeah.

Operator Nick Kahn, Top Draws, Roman Reigns, Cody Rhodes, Rhea Ripley.

WWE has been the premier name in professional wrestling since it was founded by Vince McMahon, who purchased what was then known as WWWF from his father in 1982.

So there's already problems.

For the sake of brevity, we'll excuse the various initial errors and general bah.

They dropped WWWF in 79, ladies and gentlemen.

With stars like Hulk Hogan, Stone Cold Steve Austin, The Rock, and The Undertaker, WWE and its annual WrestleMania events became a cultural phenomenon.

Today, WWE reaches more than 1 billion people weekly across the globe.

with its three television shows and produces more than 200 live events every year.

Any comments?

Oh, no, I'm waiting for more.

I'm okay.

So that was number two, six billion.

The only thing I've got to say so far is it seems like the WWE

ought to be valued at about the same thing as the UFC.

Where do they get the fucking four and a half billion dollar fucking leg up?

Now, this next one is the one everyone's talking about.

No.

And this is two of three free articles from Forbes.

Let me exist.

But they can't be number three.

Number three worth $2 billion.

AEW.

Their estimated 2023 revenue.

Again, they're privately owned, so there's no public record.

Estimated 2023 revenue, $250 million.

Operator, Tony Khan.

The top draws?

Young Bucks, Jon Moxley, Kenny Omega.

The youngest promotion on the list.

AEW became the primary challenger to WWE when it launched in 2019.

AEW got immediate legitimacy from superstars like Chris Jericho, Kenny Omega, and the Young Bucks, while a partnership with New Japan Pro Wrestling and the purchase of Ring of Honor have helped the young brand build its roster and match library.

Tell me you don't know anything about wrestling without telling me you don't know anything about wrestling.

But

more shocking is this is a list of combat sports leagues.

Is there no other

combat sports league?

No,

I mean, at one time it might have been Strike Force.

At one time it might have been Bellator.

But there's no other mixed martial arts league in the world.

No other fucking boxing

entity.

We go UFC, we go WWE, and then it falls cascading down the mountain to AEW in this ridiculous valuation, but there's nothing else out there.

But you got to look at everything in perspective.

Now, AEW $2 billion valuation is completely ridiculous.

We'll get to that, but here's the rest of the list real quick.

Number four,

worth $1.3 billion,

one championship.

I believe that is an MMA company.

Yes.

Number five, worth $850 million,

match room boxing.

Okay.

Not a big boxing name like Don King anymore, is there?

Number six, we're $690 million, the PFL, the Professional Fighting League, I believe.

Number seven, we're $630 million.

Top-ranked boxing.

Bob Aram still alive.

Oh my God.

What is he now?

Is he fucking older than Wayne Newton?

He's got to be in his 90s.

Hold on, Bob.

Bob.

Yeah, look up Bob Aram.

Jesus Christ.

He

promoted.

Yeah.

He promoted David versus Goliath.

He is at number seven on the list.

Number eight, Premier Boxing Championship, worth $600 million.

Number nine, Golden Boy Promotions.

Oscar De La Jolla, $450 million.

And finally, number 10, Combate Global, worth $120 million.

That's Campbell McLaren, the guy from the early days of the UFC working for Bob Meyerowitz.

There you go.

$120 million.

And of course, since these figures are all apparently just pulled completely out of this fucking guy's ass except for well that's the brain ufc and wwe because they're publicly traded that there's some element of that's a legitimate real-world valuation here's a there's a few things here one

people who don't pay attention to the financial world or remember steve forbes when he ran for president or even remember what forbes magazine was before that

this isn't that to in 1982 to be a rich kid, I had a picture taken of me reading a Forbes magazine, and that was 40 years ago.

I don't know anyone who reads it.

Let's put it that way.

And I know a lot of people read a lot of things about money.

So it's not what it once was.

And

looking at this list, it's not an AEW issue because everyone's focused on that.

And again, WWE is undervalued based on...

you know, any multiple you want to do.

Yeah.

AEW is overvalued.

I have to think a lot of these other promotions are overvalued as well, to be quite honest with you.

And

the AEW one, it references the purchase of Ring of Honor.

Tony Khan purchased that.

He's made note of that many times.

That's a separate thing than AEW.

So it actually is.

No, but it bolstered his roster, though.

The wording of the article is tortured, but the meaning is clear.

It bolstered his roster of another 40 fucking guys that he doesn't have any room to use.

And many of them aren't worth it.

So, here's how the valuation works: a valuation is what someone would pay for it.

So, you have to ask yourself realistically:

you know, unless it's like the Saudis with magical oil money,

would someone pay $2 billion for AEW?

And if so, what would they get?

Unlike WWE,

and they're making layoffs we've heard about in the last few weeks of people who are longtime veterans of the company, because they're merging the companies together.

But they have an infrastructure.

Is there any infrastructure in AEW?

If you bought AEW, would you say, all right, Tony's selling it?

He's going to get out of the way.

At least we got this executive team.

We'll go to the

AEW tower and talk to the executives and the marketing department and the production chief and all of these people.

in this entity, and we will tell them that we have bought it and we are now the new owners.

And there'll be, oh, a hundred or two hundred people there at least for, well, goddamn, that's back when WWF was a just a measly, you know, under a billion-dollar company.

There'll be three or four hundred people in this office all doing these various chores for a $2 billion company, and we'll be able to direct them to keep doing what they're doing.

That's what you're saying, right?

I'm saying there's no infrastructure.

There's no executive team that any buyer would want to keep on.

So now there's no infrastructure.

It's going to have to be restaffed.

You mean that to tell me that a lot of these people, either like the former legal chief, also did work for the football teams and the other entities under Shad's umbrella, but you're saying that also most of these people were hired because they were

either fans or close to some of the indie wrestlers and their heads of departments that would need to go?

What I'm saying is this, take the booking out of the picture for now.

Look at everything else with AEW.

If you purchased AEW, two billion dollars, if you purchased AEW,

what department do you think is doing well?

Is it marketing?

Is it promotion?

Is it advanced ticket sales?

I mean, what department do you think is, you know what?

We definitely don't want to mess with this department.

They have value.

No one.

There's nothing there infrastructure-wise.

And again, their COO just started.

Let's see what happens.

There's nothing there.

So you have nothing there.

What are you buying?

You get the tape catalog.

There's some value there.

Is it in the billions of dollars worth of value?

No.

The wrestling contracts,

how much value is that?

How much value is that?

You overpaid a bunch of people.

It's the most expensive roster.

potentially the most expensive guaranteed roster in the history of wrestling.

And if not very close to, I would think, what WCW

had in the late 90s, if not exceeding that.

Maybe adjusted for inflation, maybe come out even.

Let's talk consumer electronics.

How's that video game?

It's an epic disaster.

Somebody just tweeted the $10 aisle now at Walmart, Fight Forever.

Someone just tweeted there were less people playing Fight Forever than like the WWE 2K game from like 2019, live online right now, or when they sent it

so there's no there's nothing there you have no value now with the video game division and you've hurt your credibility by putting out a game that wasn't ready even amongst the people that like you so there's no value there

tony has built this whole thing wait a minute wait a minute the television that's what i was gonna say that's the point though howdy you know they're two four five hours of weekly national cable television tony has built this whole thing by publicly saying it'll all make sense, it'll all work out, because when the renewal comes up, I'm going to make a killing.

We're very valuable.

This is what we're going to be able to do.

Since that period of time, the overall rating has gone down drastically.

I believe the key demo is not as high as it used to be either.

It's a company constantly,

whether you want to believe it's self-induced because it is, or whether you want to deny it, they're constantly in the middle of drama.

You don't think executives notice that?

Anything like that, it turns people off too.

Tony's publicly talking about wanting to get this giant ratings increase.

So when someone throws their cards in the

ratings increase, but

rights increase.

So when someone throws their cards in front of the table, the network should say, okay, actually,

you're underperforming where you were performing when they gave you, when your friend gave you that nice raise a few months in.

You're underperforming that.

We think you should get less.

We don't see any added value from 2019 or 2020 to now.

Well, now, hold on.

Hold on.

There is added value because if it has been intimated and hinted at and almost outright admitted,

WBD, the corporate entity, they've got a piece of the pay-per-views and Tony's now announced, announced, we're just going to fuck it.

We're going to do a pay-per-view every month for the rest of the year.

He's trying to bump that something up, right?

The problem is, if Tony walks out of this with a deal with Warner Brothers' discovery and there's no giant bump in money,

then the obvious becomes obvious to everyone that it isn't a real business.

It's a hobby that could exist no matter what financial windfalls happen.

Now, if he gets $250 million a year,

that'd be pretty incredible.

Is he?

And see, that's the thing is you can draw on public

records and statements with TKO, UFC, WWE, and those numbers are legitimate.

They gross a billion fucking dollars or whatever.

Where did he gross 250?

Examine these amounts of money.

Where did he gross $250 million without spending $500 million to do it?

Because you look at the half-empty buildings, you look at the guaranteed contracts for the stars and the bigger signings, and

the production ain't cheap.

And

so that for a $2 billion value,

the conspiracy nuts that say, well, that's why Vince has got that $2 billion, right?

Do you think that Vince would buy

this company that Tony's already kind of started and fucked up for $2 billion?

Would if he wanted to?

Vince had all the money he was ever going to need for the rest of his life before he got this $2 billion, right?

So let's just pull this out of our ass too and say Vince has $2 billion to spend on wrestling.

He could go to fucking TBS and say,

dump these other guys and just fucking run my show with my new company.

You don't have to pay me anything.

Just put me on the air.

And he wouldn't give a shit

because he's got $2 billion.

I'm almost positive that $2 billion would come close to buying either TBS or TNT

out from under the goddamn WBD

BDSM Empire they've got going on over there.

Can you Google how much is TBS worth as a network alone?

Or would it be the valuation of the whole empire?

Because the point is,

if you're talking about that much money,

then Vince would have no incentive whatsoever to fucking make any for five fucking years at this ridiculous rate

and could just go in and say,

I'm going to sign up all of his guys when their contracts are over with.

I'll provide you the show for free.

I'm going to promote pay-per-view like we used to back in the old days.

And you just air my show.

He could do any fucking thing but he wouldn't do that because

he he he he wouldn't purchase something that he could fucking start on his own for less than that and fucking undercut everybody you see where i'm going with this yeah

so what what is why do people believe these things so when we're talking about what are you selling

the television deal of if again if at some point the next year tony said i'm gonna sell it the television deal would be a part of it.

You always have to worry about someone taking over a station and just saying, I don't want wrestling or even, I don't want anything that looks so much like a markdown from WWE right now, which is sellouts and it looks beautiful and the camera work and everything.

You don't know.

Yeah, so if you tried to buy it now, you would be getting basically the WWE talent equivalent of one of those three-year contracts where they can cut you every three months.

If you bought the company and the current rights deal that expires within six to nine months or whatever the fuck it is, then you've got a six to nine month fucking guarantee you're on the air.

And then what the fuck?

Could Tony sell it for 650 million?

Probably.

2 billion, you have to find someone who's just going to be loose and fast with money, not caring about the P ⁇ L, like Tony.

You have to find someone who's going to think about it like Tony, because no network can buy that just for content because the archive isn't worth that much.

And we've learned from TBS, it's not that easy to just buy a company and put executives in charge.

Yeah, that worked out so well the first time, didn't it?

Wouldn't that be a, would that not be a kick in the head, as Dean Martin used to say?

If TBS turned around and said, Tony, you're struggling financially.

We'll bail you out.

We'll buy this thing for whatever.

And they did the same thing 40 years later.

see they're in a great position now i've read that the exclusive negotiating period has ended so tony could shop the aew package including wringle

well that's the question is there someone out there who's going to pay more than tbs

the okay again and wwe is already doing business with not fox anymore but doing business still with usa so that's nbc right

netflix which is bigger than people probably realize.

Whoops, people.

Certainly surprised me.

Yes.

But that's the point.

WWE just went through all of this and

we know who basically we believe we know mostly who was interested and who won, obviously.

And

some of those people ain't going to be interested in a distant number two wrestling promotion, are they?

So,

and then Tony got TBS because

the guy that, what was the guy's name originally that put him on the air?

Kevin Riley.

Kevin Riley.

He didn't even know.

He had no idea

that TBS had owned a wrestling company at one point because it had been 20 fucking years, right?

And this was a new guy, but he knew Tony because of the

football and the soccer and the this and that and the other thing, the chrome bumper hitches, whatever the fuck they're all into.

And

Tony, Tony, yeah, yeah, you guys used to own the rivals to Vince.

We did.

And that's how that whole thing started, but that guy's not there anymore.

And

again, you know, he's the one that gave him a raise, right, very soon afterwards.

And he ain't there no more.

Did I mention that?

And

I don't know what kind of leverage they've got because who's going to want to bid when they look look at the track record of the way the show looks because of the buildings being empty, the fucking ratings pattern trending downward, and

a constant drama where you're not going in and dealing, even if they don't like Vince.

A lot of these network TV people had,

when they dealt with the WWE, they had four or five people that they could meet with that didn't include Vince, still came off as goddamn competent adult professionals high up in the company.

Who's the next besides Tony, most important person there?

Jack Kirby, the new COO.

And then do they have

Nick Kahn?

Do they have a Triple H?

Do they have goddamn

all the other people Vince has had speaking for his office staff?

Here's an interesting question.

Does Tony sign a deal if it's for a giant increase?

Let's say 200 million a year, something crazy,

But he has to listen to network suggestions, or he has to step down from being the head of creative.

That's a question.

Or, you know, if they said we want a bigger piece of the pie,

if he ends up back on their doorstep, still negotiating with them,

you know, that's the question.

Does Tony want to support AEW to the point where he'll step back?

Well, I believe that he would take less money.

I believe that in a heartbeat.

And I believe that he would agree

to listening to network suggestions because you know how that goes.

A lot of people listen to that.

Oh, we listen to your suggestions.

Blah, blah, blah.

That could drag on forever and end acrimoniously.

But if they said, no, you can't run this company anymore, I think he'd tell them to go piss off and he'd be on fucking YouTube.

And

that's where we're at.

But anyway, if someone offered him $2 billion, his father would punch him out if he didn't take it.

Seriously, AEW is not worth anywhere near that much.

If he got offered that much, he would be a fool not to take it.

Yeah, you know what?

At that point, Shad would say, okay, Tony, now listen, we've had a lot of fun, but I raised you to be a businessman.

And this is fucking real.

Tony, I don't know if we're ever going to find a deaf mute buyer again.

Just take the money.

you're taking that two billion dollars or i swear to god i'll live forever and never give you another penny

oh but but please folks and we're not doing this to knock aew

it's just ridiculous two billion dollars like valid valuing

impact at

$250,000.

It's just way out of the realm.

No, I'm kidding.

It's but $2 billion.

Come on.

And then then that would mean that the WWE was

worth about fucking $30 billion around the world, right?

I still think

they'd take $2 billion in cash, no goddamn funny money, no credit, no whatever, $2 billion in cash.

You could buy TBS off of them down there.

Fuck.

Anyway,

you know, the big problem, Brian, the big problem with people believing all these big numbers is because they're used to paying all these inflated numbers for prices.

Do you realize?

Do you realize that steak used to be nine cents a pound?

Do you realize

that?

I never thought about it, no.

Steak used to be nine cents a pound back in 1882 when they just took a dull knife and cut it off the cow's ass, drug it through some sawdust to preserve it, and slapped it down on the butcher's counter where it sat there for about a month or six weeks until you had enough money to buy it.

And boy, that was good eating.

But things, everything has gotten more expensive.

Yeah, it certainly has.

Everything has gotten more expensive because that's just the nature of the way that things happen in the world.

A lot of people complain about that, but it's true.

But there's only one thing, Brian.

that's going down in price, down in cost, and up in affordability instead of through the roof in cost and down in affordability.

Do you have any idea what that might be?

I have no idea where you're going in any way.

No.

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But that's what, that's what you get everything.

You get to talk.

You get to make phone calls on your phone.

And that used to be,

are you old enough, Brian, did you used to pay long distance phone bills?

Oh, yeah.

I used to pay them for calling you.

Yeah.

Well, now you don't have to do that anymore, you spoiled little Cretans.

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You can text them at much, still $15 a month.

And the data.

Whatever the fuck that covers.

What does data cover on a cell phone, Brian?

Succinctly, tell me.

It's everything.

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There's a comprising and there's data.

It is all covered by Mint Mobile.

Well, I said.

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How about that?

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And here recently,

unbeknownst to them, we took a little break because my kidneys are old and I needed to wee wee.

And as we were coming back to finish recording what we were recording, you tried to make some adjustment in your office and impaled yourself.

On apparently, you have a medieval iron maiden with pointy, sharp spikes leaning up apparently next to your desk over there at Last Manor.

And you impaled yourself.

You were bleeding.

I had to wait until you cleaned the wound and dressed the wound.

And now and fretted over the wound.

And now we are back.

And I just want to let people know that if you start

trailing off or just talking nonsense like the the the bright light that you're hearing that it's because of blood loss because this could be your dying declaration

now what were you gonna say well now that you put it like that

I just want to tell everyone how much I love them

thank you for being along this journey with me for the last

boy it's been a long time shit

maybe it's time folks that's another way to look at it Okay, it's overdue.

Are you all right?

How are you?

Thank you, everyone, though, for your concerns in the cards and letters.

I appreciate it.

They haven't written yet.

I just told them about it.

37.

What do you think this is?

A Tony Khan graphic?

Give him the address to send them so we can build up the mailing list for Christmas time.

P.O.

Box 436-963, Louisville, Kentucky, 40253.

I'll make sure he gets all your concerns.

Attention, get well, Brian.

Yeah, how's your corpuscles?

That's what they need to.

They need to write, hey, Brian, how's your corpuscles?

Why is there a paintbrush on my desk?

It's not there.

You're seeing things.

You're getting lightheaded.

All right.

Anyway,

we should mention,

before you were going to mention something, I should mention that we're a few weeks behind on Dark Side of the Ring, and we're going to catch up here.

today on one of them and on the drive-through next week, we'll catch up on the other one, right?

And

we still got to talk about some other things, but people won't quit doing and saying stupid things in the immediate 24-hour news cycle for us to go back and delve into history.

But what were you going to say?

I was going to say we have obviously dark side episodes to catch up on, and we are pretty behind.

Maybe next time, if they ever come back again, don't do it during WrestleMania time.

It's just so hard to get caught up with so much happening.

Well, it's a double-edged sword.

Now, Brian, it cuts both ways it swings both ways brian you may have heard this before about this sword that it swings both ways it's a gay blade

and

it it the the increased viewership

the the rising tide lifts all boats is what i'm trying to say sometimes the wrestle mania furor

Everybody just wants to put all the wrestling shows out there because, you know,

normally there's more interest in wrestling and they want to watch watch everything, but it's gotten to the point where are we oversaturated and we just can't keep up with it if we have normal lives and need to eat and things.

Well, I think there are times where there's just a ton going on, and then there are times where something can get a little more attention because there's not as much attention going other places.

Well said.

I applaud you.

Thank you.

Then again, I am light-headed and losing blood, so what do I know?

Well, speaking of light-headed and losing blood, should we go to Chris Colt's Dark Side of the Ring?

That seems like a segue, if we're ever going to get one.

And we, like I said, we apologize for being a couple weeks behind.

This was the previous week, but

this one I got a lot of feedback on on Twitter.

I was a part of it.

They weren't just randomly talking to me.

But a lot of people enjoyed this

more than the average bear dark side of the ring because they didn't know this story.

They didn't know of Chris Colt.

They didn't know a lot of the people that were talking heads, which is kind of the point

of when I said that, you know, Chris Colt may have been the best wrestler nobody ever saw.

You have to listen to this program to have heard many Chris Colt stories, but it was nice, not only

ground that hasn't been trodden here, stampled,

stampeded to death, trampled is what I'm trying to say, with all the AE bios, the WWE stuff where they're just

repeating themselves in a lot of cases now.

This was brand new shit, and you don't see Princess Victorio, or it was good to see Billy Anderson, you know, on a program taught Tom Burke, one of the great early wrestling collectors and historians, the Global Wrestling News Service.

Boy,

he ought to give tours of his collection, talk about a fucking museum, and

family members of Colts, his great nephew and his niece.

So it was nice to see new talking heads and new, except for me.

I'm an old head.

At least that's what the kids tell me.

But they had to lead, Brian, don't you think, with the giant spiders in the cage?

Because that way, if you'd never heard of Chris Colt, that was kind of the hook, even though it was chronologically inaccurate to lead with that but that was kind of the hook of the uh

okay even though we don't know who this guy is we we got to hear more about this

do i agree with making that the hook of the piece

well yeah because it came early it came early on

i thought i actually thought the episode got better as it got going and i thought you know i i personally wouldn't have done it that way i'll just say that well they that's why i'm saying they had to they had to hook the non-informed viewer

on what, and a giant spiders climbing a cage is probably, you know.

Hey, listen, if you wanted to hook the viewers, all you had to do is run that promo they had later on in the thing where he's like, I'll fight you and then I'll fuck you.

Yeah.

Well, no, he said, actually, he said, I'll fight you.

I'll run you out of town and then I'll fuck you.

Well, how's he going to fuck the guy when he's already run him out of town?

That's a long-distance relationship.

I've got a car.

But it's not mine.

And I shouldn't overlook Moondog Moretti was a part of that also.

But,

you know, and

I'm not making a secret of it.

I had suggested this or this story, Chris Colt, this subject, to

Evan Husney and Jason Eister a few years ago.

I said, boy, you ought to tell a crazy story, Chris Colt.

But

at that point, the program wasn't established.

They didn't want to do that deep of an album cut, but it kept coming back with other people mentioning it.

And then they said, well, we can find these people that

knew him, and off they went.

And

as much of this episode was non-wrestling oriented, per se, just about a guy who was noted for being a wrestler as it was about wrestling.

We've talked about there's not a ton of footage of Colt still available.

There's plenty of pictures.

but some of the footage that's still available, they couldn't show.

But

it was just the story of this fucking guy that was, you know,

how would you term Chris?

It wasn't that he was crazy.

It wasn't that he was,

he might have been insane out of a clinical definition,

but he just

got a personality and kind of went with, even though he was multiple gimmicks and multiple characters, it was always said it around drugs.

I think that answers it.

Well, yeah, drugs, but it was something about him.

He didn't just say, I'm going to become a fucking garbage man or a plumber.

It was some, all of his gimmicks had some element of one of his personalities in them.

And this is what you can't blame him here for not being chronological because it's almost impossible.

You need a pie chart and like one of those graphics they put up on the screen for the Bloodline Dynasty to be able to figure out his lineage and how many different wrestling names he used and gimmick names.

And remember, at one point, there was a

what was it, an early inside wrestling, had on the cover a picture of Chris Colt and Ron Dupree as the California Hells Angels, and Don Fargo and

who was it, Kenny Mack, that the guy that got shot as the chain gang.

And will the real Hell's Angels please stand up?

And then later on, Chris Colb becomes Don Fargo's partner and they become the chain gang.

And when the.

So it's

it's it was hard to be chronological with this thing to make anybody understand what the fuck was going on.

I think they mostly did a good job with this one, to be honest.

Well,

with his early life, especially because a lot of people didn't know anything about,

you know, including me, his childhood.

He was a wrestling fan when he was a kid, but his parents were apparently violent alcoholics.

And,

you know, he wants to be a wrestler.

He gets on the school wrestling team and bleaches his hair blonde in like 1962 or whatever.

So that was frowned upon in that environment.

And I knew that he ended up breaking into business in Massachusetts for Tony Santos, but I didn't know that he went to chicago first and worked as a male hustler to pay his

wrestling school tuition there

um

but tom burke had been one of his clients

because no come on

come on now tom like he's an older man now and he might

He might be got

joking.

I'm joking.

I'm joking.

Tom's an older fellow, and he might be be offended by that.

But no, Tom, again, was one of the early,

for lack of a better term, newsletter people.

He would send out results, his global wrestling news service, and he had pen pals that sent programs and wrestling results from all over the place.

And he had been pen pals with Chuck Harris, who became

Chris Colt as a teenager.

And he kept saying,

I'm going to get into business.

And then Tom, being from Boston,

you know, sees there he shows up and he's a wrestler.

And that's where he met and got involved with Ron Dupree, who was, God,

what was the name Ron Dupree was using?

The Golden Boy.

The Golden Boy.

But no, was there another actual name he used?

So they changed names quite a bit.

But anyway, so he.

The Golden Boy Dupree, I think he's also used.

Well, yeah, but I mean, he magnificent somebody or other.

No, that was Chris Colt.

Chris Colt was

the magnificent Chevier.

That's right.

The Magnificent Chevier.

And Tony Santos, one notch above Jack Pfeffer in the gimmick name category.

Well, that was his booker.

Well, as a matter of fact, that's right, wasn't it?

That was his booker, yeah.

That was his booker at the time.

Anyway,

so from then on, Ron Dupree and Chris Colt were a couple and they traveled.

They got

some early success in Arizona, but they burned the flag on TV out there.

And as the story goes, got the promotion kicked off TV.

But that's where that magazine cover came from with Chris Colt taking a hacksaw to cowboy Bob Ellis's head.

It was the Arizona territory.

Bob Ellis had been a big star.

all over the Midwest and main invented Chicago, Detroit, and Indianapolis, but

he had some kind of financial interest, or they gave him something, or he kept going to Arizona.

And it stood out because here was this fucking huge name in this small territory.

But that's that famous magazine cover of him taking a hacksaw to Bob Ellis's fucking head.

1972 at the drugstore, you'd walk in and see that kind of shit on the magazine stand.

But that was just so Bob Ellis could explain wearing a wig.

Well, yes, because he saw it off the better part of the front of his.

And you know, they told me when I first got into business, I guess it was a fresh thing because the last run that Bob Ellis had was in Puerto Rico, right?

And then he was pretty much retired as a wrestler, very early 80s.

Point is, apparently from all those years of being a babyface, getting juice all the time,

and I saw it, Ellis had a really bad gig head, right?

Not an Abdullah the Butcher style head, but a bad gig head.

And they said he had the dermabrasion or whatever it is where they would smooth your head off.

And then went to Puerto Rico, the bloodiest territory in fucking wrestling.

Anyway.

Hey, can I ask you a quick question?

Because I actually heard

from Matt Farmer wrestling a story the other day.

He was asking a question and I didn't know the answer.

You mentioned way back in a segment we did about the early days of tape trading that you were getting stuff out of Puerto Rico.

What were you getting and when?

And who had Puerto Rico stuff other than the commercial tapes?

I'm trying to remember.

I didn't get like just regular full television, but I would get matches.

And

you know what?

It may have been somebody that Norman Dooley was trading with because a lot of times, you know, a lot of the stuff that I got was from him.

There was also a a guy in Michigan named Marty Slobin that had compilation tapes.

You'd have the Georgia TBS show,

then a couple of Mid-South matches, then a couple of the Chicago Detroits things and some Mid-Atlantic.

And I mean, who knows?

It was fourth generation then.

But a lot of that, you know, early stuff, you would get tapes that weren't necessarily from the person who recorded it.

So I do not actually know now that I think about it.

And yeah, that would have been the very end of Cowboy Bob Ellis' career.

In more ways than one.

But anyway, I enjoyed in this episode finally knowing, because remember, we've talked about this, what happened, the team of Chris Colt and Mike Boyette.

And by the time that they even got to this end of the territory, it was Chris Colt and Bill Dundee.

And Mike Boyette made Memphis matches, but never even made live appearances up in this part of the territory.

And what was going on there?

And they told the story that they got in a fucking fight, that

they were riding back from Johnson City, which makes sense because that was at a point in time where, you know, Fuller and

the Memphis end and Nick were trading talent.

And

apparently, you know, Chris Colt freaks out in the back seat and starts punching Bill Anderson, who's driving, his brother Bill Colt, and punching fucking Mike Boyette and pulling his hair in the front seat.

And Boyette says, pull a fucking car over.

And remember, we've had fun

with Mike Boyette talking about the apocalypse soldier of fortune gimmick and that I managed him in Tennessee when I was first starting and everything.

And he'd, his brain was kind of

fried at that point.

But he was a Vietnam veteran and he was a high-level fucking judo guy.

And plus, he was, you know, just not somebody you wouldn't fuck with.

So

when they pulled over and boyette, front facelock, Chris Colt on the side of the road and fucking put him out

like Hulk Hogan put out Richard Belzer.

Imagine that, but on the side of the road in East Tennessee at two o'clock in the morning.

And then gets back in a car and tells Bill to back up and then tells him run over him.

Then fucking hits the goddamn, puts puts his foot on the accelerator and he's got the steering wheel and Billy Anderson's going out of his mind.

Ah, he swerves and they fucking pass him, right?

He deserved to die.

I can hear Mike Boyette saying that.

Sort of more like a stoner, but gruff.

And then the next day,

Billy goes back to the apartment and there's Chris Colt somehow.

They left him on the side of the road.

He's somehow there waiting on him.

And he said,

we'll get rid of boyette

and that was the fucking story and how bill dundee inherited that fucking combination

i get he was jerry jarrett wanted to push dundee at that point i guess he saw an opening because the only person that prospered out of that thing was dundee it kept him going for a few more months till they switched him babyface

my boyette always looked weird and you know, crazy, but geez, that story, he sounded like a maniac.

Well,

this was 1975.

By the time I knew him, he was calmer.

But that's the thing is.

Remember, he had a thing in the UWF, a losing streak.

He was on TV every week, like 86, 87, and he had wild hair.

He looked nuts.

Yeah.

Well, because the last time that I ever saw him, I think I've told this story.

It was the

day that we were in San Antonio on Easter Sunday at the hemisphere for WCW.

It was 1990.

A fucking idiot they hired to book the arenas had us there.

A 17,000-seat building.

We had 600 people there, I think.

But Mike was living in San Antonio and came up to the back door to visit some of the guys because, you know, everybody from Tennessee knew him.

But he was covered in mud.

It was like he had a, I can't remember what he was doing, but no,

from his head to his toe, he was covered in mud.

He was doing some kind of work digging or I don't know what the fuck.

And again, you know, it was Mike Boyette.

He was very friendly with the guys that he knew, but he looked like something out of a goddamn horror movie.

And that's the last time I ever saw him.

But no,

again,

it was either he.

He was in Vietnam, but he was also in judo before he got to service, or he got in judo because he was in the service.

But he was pretty good.

That's why he came up with the apocalypse gimmick.

It was supposed to be a judo martial arts, fucking soldier of fortune thing, but then whatever substances he was on, he started painting himself up like the panda bears and all these colors.

And

they made him get rid of the combat boots because he was kicking guys' fucking heads in.

I walked in at the time.

He's taping his ankles.

He's barefoot.

I said, what?

He said, they made me get rid of my boots.

They said they were made out of potatoes.

And,

you know, anyway, it just didn't, he was not all there.

But anyway,

he was the casualty in that

particular, because at least I guess Nick thought, well, I'm keeping the two instead of the one or whatever.

And then finally, because that was Billy Anderson's first run in the business.

He was just 18 and he was big around as a straw.

So they were going to go to Portland or Seattle or somewhere in the airport.

And Billy just saw Chris at the bar before he walked in and said, you know what?

Fuck it.

And he left and went home.

But he

probably would not have goddamn survived.

That was the best movie ever made.

Yeah.

Yeah.

He actually, you know, he was not only a wrestler later on, but then referee, ring announcer for the WWF for many years, uh trainer trainer yeah yeah i mean so

he had a lot better career than chris did once he got away from him

anyway

um

and then you know they they jumped around quite a bit as we said because how can you

keep this straight but the the final few years of of chris's wrestling career when ron dupree died which is 1975, he had had a heart attack.

He had

become a ring announcer because he'd had a heart attack and had to quit wrestling before.

That's why Chris took on,

you know, so many other partners.

But then

for Dean Silverstone, right?

For Dean Silverstone, yeah, up in the Northwest.

But finally, he had another heart attack and died in the ambulance.

So then Chris is out on his own and

getting booked from place to place.

And that's

they showed the footage because it's out there on YouTube, just a clip.

But the Chris Colt experience in 1976,

he invented the rock and wrestling connection in front of absolutely nobody in a Canadian indie promotion.

It was Superstars of Wrestling for George Cannon.

George Cannon.

That's right.

Cry Baby Cannon.

And

that's why Vince had to pay him something for Superstars of Wrestling because he had trademarked it, didn't he?

That's right.

And then I think Vince lost the trademark.

Yeah, but then he came up with so many others.

But Colt was using Welcome to My Nightmare by Alice Cooper as his entrance music and as he had the snake.

And also that made sense because the chic

was huge in Michigan and Ontario and George Cannon was running.

Ontario in opposition at that point in time.

And here he's got his crazy wrestler with a snake.

But it

added to Chris's aura.

But they show the TV clip in the studio, there's 22 people there, and

you know, it just

there was nobody there to see it.

And then he went to England and they kicked him off television, and that was a shoot.

I can't remember what for.

And then, you know, he would be some places that I think he was probably in Portland more than

any place else between what, 79 and 82 or three.

and he wasn't even there that much.

It's just

he was there a little bit longer than elsewhere and it was on tape.

Yeah.

And, you know, they had already told the story in the program of his chance meeting with Janice Joplin in San Francisco, just on the street.

Hey, I'll have a drink with you.

And he did the same thing.

But somehow he aligned himself with Joe Cocker long enough to be a roadie and get on, you know, getting pictures and get on the tour with him for a while.

So he was doing shit like that.

And

by the southeastern continental, Chris von Colt was, what was that, 86, 76?

The dying,

the dying days of that territory, too.

But he's a Nazi, suddenly, Chris von Colt, because why wouldn't he be?

What would be the most offensive thing you could just do?

And they mentioned, you know,

a lot of the insight insight came from, as we said,

his niece and his grandnephew, because they

knew some of the elements of what he was doing when he was away from the wrestling business.

And they say he went from cocaine to meth to being addicted to meth.

And

he was busting crack houses as a fake cop.

He'd go in, try to make a buy, then flash a fucking fake badge and take all their shit.

What kind of balls does that take?

Or lack of

possibly critical thinking, or both.

I don't know.

And then he did the gay porn stuff.

They had the director of

Brian.

I was conflicted on this guy because he gives his resume.

He wrote 20 books.

He's a college professor.

He's taught literature.

He sounded very intelligent.

And then they show him a Chris Colt with a headlock on him.

He's wearing the GIMP gimp mask in his fucking video that he directed i i was conflicted on whether to take this guy completely seriously as a scholar or not what you think of him he seemed you know relatively together obviously he was making these films back in the 80s it was a long time ago it's almost 40 years ago

and

Said some interesting things.

Hulk Hogan's a gay icon.

Yeah, no, Hulk Hogan was a god to the gay community.

I wrote that down.

He wanted to do wrestling videos because there was a heavy

gay crossover and wrestling fandom.

I get maybe that thing, the guy wasn't trolling AJ Styles at one time.

What he said was, I think, wrestling is softcore porn for gay people.

Yes, that's what he said.

What's women's wrestling then?

Well, apparently not very interesting to them either.

But nevertheless, so this guy

directed these videos and,

you know, talked about why Chris had a certain level of

appeal to the clientele and et cetera.

And that's where Chris was doing the wrestling promos.

I'll fight you, I'll run you out of town, and then I'll fuck you,

and et cetera, et cetera.

But

then they all couldn't even

agree on exactly how he died because we've talked about that was the mystery.

Nobody saw him, nobody heard of him.

And then they, you know, his niece said he was found in a back alley in Seattle.

Tom Burke said he heard they found him in a chair with a needle in his arm.

And the director said he died of AIDS in a flop house in Seattle, which we believe is the story most often repeated.

And I guess the niece could, the flop house could be located in a back alley.

So the niece niece could be on target with that also.

And he was only like 49 years old.

So

an incredibly gifted guy when it came to understanding the wrestling business, both how to get heat as a heel

and how, you know, he loved taking the bumps and he took the bumps.

But the working and the physical aspect of it, he got that.

And his shit looked great when he wasn't fucked up and he had,

you know, a ring that wasn't cement to work with, sometimes even when he did.

That elbow drop he hits in that clip from George Cannon's promotion.

Look at the ring when he hits it.

It doesn't move.

It looks like he drops it on a frying pan.

But that's what he,

you know, Johnny Valiant, when he was working the early 80s Canadian independence for, I think it was the bear man,

Dave McKigny.

They would book him against Chris Colt and Colt would would say, give me all the bumps you can take.

I love to take bumps.

Give me all the bumps you want to give me.

And I get a since it was perfect because Johnny Vallion didn't really want to take a lot of bumps.

But, you know,

he was talented at that aspect, but he couldn't apply those talents for long or

have any reliability placed in him by people in power in any major territory because you never knew

what else was going to happen with Chris Colt and

the giant spiders that might climb the cage and try to get him.

I never also knew

until Billy Anderson did that he got out and started beating the shit out of the entire crowd and they almost killed him and Billy Anderson had to fucking save him with a chair.

You know, we always talk about lost footage and things that we wish we could see on video.

There's nothing really of note from Arizona.

No, no, I had gotten

three or four two-inch reels of

videotape, so it had to be mid-70s or earlier, from the Arizona territory

a long time ago from a guy that said, hey, they were in the garage and you might like them.

And

finally, through the dark side folks, because they were researching this episode,

We got them run off and it was some, oh, goddamn, what was the guy's name?

The Ernie Muhammad.

Promoter Ernie Muhammad, it was his TV show, and Bob Ellis was on one of the interviews.

But otherwise, it was like Dale Pierce and a few, you know, a few various local people doing their thing in Arizona in the mid-70s, and nothing of any real note, unfortunately.

All right.

But that was the Chris Colt experience on Dark Side of the Ring.

On the Jim Cornette Cornette experience.

On the Jim Cornette experience.

See, everybody thinks I ripped off Hendrix.

I really ripped off Chris Colt.

So real quick on the topic of Dark Side, obviously we'll get caught up with Chris Adams.

We'll probably do that on the drive-thru.

The Harley race one, we also missed.

Oh, golly.

And this week is Sherry Martell, and I'm all over that.

So.

We got a lot of catching up to do there, Lucy.

But it's Tuesday nights at 10 p.m.

Eastern on Vice TV.

Get it while it's hot.

Well, let's go from that story of a troubled individual and let's snap right into an episode of SmackDown here.

Brian, would you like to do that?

I think so.

This should be a rather snappy review.

There's usually now only one or two things happening at most on the show now that we're in kind of offseason, I guess.

Yes.

Apparently, the offseason is until they decide to start selling us WrestleMania next year again.

It's slowing down, but not the houses, not the gates, not the business, just the show.

But SmackDown April 19th, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, 14,994 were announced, Brian.

It looked

kind of like they were pretty close.

Another building full.

I don't know what the PPG paints arena holds these days.

It's not the old Civic Auditorium anymore.

The igloo.

And let me just jump in real quick.

If you hear any modulation issues or anything, we're having some brief audio issues we're working on, but we're aware of them and we're working on them.

Yeah, we're aware of them.

And I'm fucking grabbing my crotch right now.

Hey.

And you're accusing me of modulating.

And I'm not.

I'm not now, nor have I ever been a member of the modulation party.

But anyway, that's the problem: is that we got, I think we got spoilt there for a while, as Mama Cornette used to say, Brian, with the rocks on every show, and Romans on all these shows.

Here's Cody, and here's goddamn Logan Paul, and here's all the stars are coming out.

And now we've gone back to somewhat reality.

But like I said, the people are still there, they're still with it.

And

the big match here was to determine who gets to face Cody at Backlash, which happens from Toulon, France in a couple of weeks now, I guess.

Have we ever determined what time of fucking day?

I believe it's at Ooh La La.

Ooh La La atm.

P.M., I believe.

In the States, that's a.m.

Or is it?

Well, I don't know when it's airing, but it's airing.

How do they determine whether they're ahead of us in time or behind us?

If it's 12 hours, it could go either way.

What is it?

Is it fast lane, WWE?

Backlash.

Backlash.

Yes.

There's no lane, just backlash.

Saturday, 12.30 p.m.

Eastern Time.

Oh, good Lord.

12.30 p.m.

Eastern Time.

All right.

Anyway, so they had L.A.

Knight and A.J.

Styles have this match to determine who's going to face Cody for the title.

You know, sad to say, they couldn't surprise us because we knew what was going to happen.

You can't have L.A.

Knight wrestle the most popular guy in the company because he's also so popular, and it would hurt the goddamn perception of one or both individuals in a match.

So instead, we get A.J.

Styles, which wouldn't be bad, except we just saw the goddamn thing at the pay-per-view and LA won L.A.

Knight won then.

But now, on this episode, with the

not only a simple finish called, but then

that being botched up,

AJ beats him in 12 minutes total with the figure in the commercial break-in.

They can both work.

LA night is over.

The yeah, head into the table thing.

He's aggressive.

He's animated.

He's constant motion.

AJ's looking physically better than he ever has.

They had a punch exchange

instead of fake forearms for once and looked like they were actually trying and throwing punches.

LA Knight won that

as the baby face.

But the point is,

I just, I think they're taking a step back by having LA Knight do a high-profile job to AJ Styles at this point in time.

But they have to have

a somewhat meaningful heel for Cody to beat at the pay-per-view.

So this is what what they did.

And poor Charles Robinson was the referee, and I love Lil Nate to death.

And I don't know who didn't do what, to who, why,

but did you see what happened with the finish?

I did not.

You didn't?

Okay, well, then you may have glanced down because if you blinked, you missed it.

No pun intended.

At the end of the match, L.A.

Knight hits the power slam, hits the LA elbow, goes for his finish.

AJ rolls to the floor as he's coming up.

L.A.

Knight goes to grab him.

And AJ

does the thing where he springs L.A.

Knight's fucking neck on the top rope, right?

And L.A.

Knight snaps back and waved his hand backward wildly like, oh, my God, that hurt.

And he was supposed to poke.

Charles Robinson in the eye.

He swung all the way over Charles.

I don't know if Charles was not in the right plays, if L.A.

Knight thought Charles was six inches higher, whatever the case.

He swung his hand over his head and the referee, Charles,

just kind of turned away from it, like, oh, geez, that narrowly missed me.

I should now gather my thoughts for three or four seconds.

And that's when AJ Styles pokes him in the eye, pokes L.A.

Knight in the eye,

and then hits the phenomenal forearm while L.A.

was blind.

But they missed poking the referee in the eye.

He turned around and just staggered there for no reason.

And then he got, and then L.A.

Knight got beat.

So I wasn't, even though the work was fine, I wasn't a fan of what they did or how they did it.

But otherwise, I loved it.

What'd you think?

I thought it was all right.

Again, I wasn't paying attention enough that I paid attention to the finish, but I kind of knew what the finish was going to be.

You brought up Cody wrestling Hillware Babyface.

To me, it was more he just beat AJ at WrestleMania.

They're not going to give him two in a row.

There's no way.

Yeah.

And of course they didn't.

Well,

even if the

here's the problem is that you know that they're not going to match LA Knight against Cody just on that short a notice for no fucking reason.

Right.

Nor should they on Tony Khan-like booking.

That's right.

But then you got the, you know, yeah, all right.

Should it be the Battle of Georgia, Cody versus AJ?

Uh, no, because Atlanta would kick the shit out of Gainesville.

There's nowhere near close.

You'd have to get some recruits or some backup.

Reinforcements is what I'm trying to say, son.

Recruits, okay.

Recruits, reinforcements, or we could recruit some Rossi people.

Yeah, we'd like.

Can you?

Okay, how about this?

How about

just so I just I can refer back to this, if we're not going to be sexist and,

you know, everybody should have equal rights, what if he said we want to recruit boys,

unattached, unaffiliated, unmarried boys between the ages of 13 and 30?

Would that have got any more attention?

By the way, unmarried.

I mean, you would almost think it's implied no boyfriend, right?

So it's like, we just want someone who has no one else.

And also, how many married 13-year-olds?

Well, never, we're going back in time here with this subject, but we're going to go way back in time with the next subject.

That's where they had the package on Tama Tonga making his debut in the bloodline.

And then Solo and Tonga were in the parking lot.

And there's Paul just looking like he's shitting himself.

He's nervous.

He doesn't know what this guy's an unknown quantity.

He's a wild card.

They could kill me at any minute.

He's nervous around Solo.

He's disturbed, is what Paul is.

He's doing this very well.

But Solo introduces

him to Paul to

Tomatonga as my MFT.

And the way that they were saying it, that's why we talked about it earlier at the top of the show.

I was assuming that this is some

phrase or nickname or initials.

This is something that's being used by the young folks.

Most favored tribesmen.

Oh, come on.

You're just making that up now.

Yeah.

So are they?

Well, I didn't know that they were just making some shit up.

I thought this was a deal and I didn't know what it was.

Oh, it's MFT.

Well, fuck.

That's going to be trouble.

But now we know they're.

My mother fucking

toughin'.

Toughin'.

Mother.

Mother fucking toughin'.

I will say this.

I like this dynamic they have now where.

Tough and tonga or Tama Tuffin.

I like the dynamic where you could tell Heyman's horrified.

Yeah.

You could tell he knows all this is wrong.

And you could tell that Solo knows he needs Heyman, even though he's getting frustrated with him.

Because he has seen how Heyman does his magic for Roman Reigns.

Yes.

This is the only intriguing thing on SmackDown right now.

Hey, well, we're back where we started from a little while ago.

We're Bloodline.

You tune in to see the Bloodline, but

I want to know what a goddamn MFT is.

And then Solo, he's hugging Tomatonga or Tomatuffin.

And

I wonder if Tomatuffin is down with the muffin.

And then Solo asks Paul

if Kevin Owens is here.

And he said, take me to him.

And he's

we'll find him.

And off they go.

So again, anyway,

we've got now Roman, as we'll find out later on.

Roman is starting to be viewed more charitably by the fans for the thank you, Roman, after Cody

acknowledged Roman's reign.

No pun intended.

And

now these guys are going into business for themselves, giving or doing things that are not ordered by the tribal chief.

So

originally we were going to have Rock and Roman,

and one would have thought Rock would have been the babyface.

But now, if we have Rock and Roman, I bet you that Roman will be the babyface, except do we get Rock and Roman?

Because now they know that Rock and Cody

is a much bigger money match than anything else.

And the other thing is, as bad as it sounds, I don't know if Roman, even with all of this, would be an effective babyface.

I think he's much better suited to be heel.

Yeah.

Now, again, if WrestleMania is going to be Cody and The Rock,

that leaves open the Royal Rumble,

SummerSlam, or any other big event overseas.

Would they do it there?

Would they do it at WrestleMania?

That's the question.

Or,

well, I don't know because you would.

I don't know.

that's another one.

Who's going to call the finish?

Based on

you can't beat Rock before Cody gets him,

but that would be Roman being beaten by Cody and then by Rock.

So I think you almost have to do Rock and Cody first.

This is probably a lot more thought than Tony Kahn gives the entire two-hour program he does on Wednesdays.

Hey, you know, Vince at his peak as being a successful booker, you know, booked Randy Savage and Hulk Hogan a year out.

Yeah.

WWE in the past has had a lot of success booking something a year out and getting there, specifically with the bloodline stuff.

Well, as when I first got up there and got on the creative team in early 96, right?

That's a Bruce Tell.

Oh, well, we used to book a year out.

I'm like, well, fuck, why are we doing that anymore?

Here we are.

We're only three months out.

And that was a goddamn national scandal that we were only three months out.

Anyway, we're up next is Nick Aldiss.

And

again, now we know we know what's going to go on here because they had to do the same thing on SmackDown they did on Raw.

They got a table with a new set of belts that are covered up.

And Aldiss introduces Triple H to come out and give the new belts away.

And

you mentioned it

on the drive-through that we did just a few days ago.

Are they overusing Triple H with

Aldous could have done this?

And

maybe they just feel like that it also reinforces Triple H's presence.

We haven't seen enough of him yet because we want to know, we want everybody to know that he's in charge.

It's the new era, whatever.

But to come out and give

mid-card talent or interact with the mid-card guys in these segments,

Does that take the

oh shit element off of Triple H coming out to do big stuff?

I think it does, and I like Waller and Theory together.

I think Theory and Waller are actually really good together as a smarmy douchebag eel tag team who act the way they do and seem to only get along with each other.

I think that's really good, but still, Nick Aldous could have done this.

Triple H should be out there for the big thing so that when he comes after, it signifies it's a big thing.

Yeah.

And Aldous was good here.

He always is.

That may have been the best thing about Triple H being in the ring for this, just his reaction to Aldous's,

whatever you want to say, him really getting fired up at the heels.

Well, yeah, because they did make a smart remark to Triple H, and he's kind of, you know, scoffing at them a little bit.

And then Aldous steps up and says, aha.

But these are now the WWE tag team title belts, not the SmackDown or Raw tag, like the other,

the other tag team titles are the world tag team titles.

And these are the WWE tag team titles like their single belts now.

And nothing specific to SmackDown or Raw because I guess they saw that was stupid because then guys would just switch or whatever.

But

does there need to be two sets of every champion just because they got two programs?

Wouldn't the champions be good as floaters so neither program gets too sick of them?

But I digress.

As I said, Aldous did a good job, and then they started a four-way for a title shot at these new belts.

And

if it was an indictment of the tag team division that I said it was on Raw the other night,

is this any better?

The Street Profits, the Heel Luches, the New Crotch Republic, and

AOP.

I don't even care enough about AOP to give them a derogatory nickname.

Nobody else does either.

And that's the tag team goddamn universe here?

Yeah, and that's the problem.

Other than the Bloodline stuff, I've kind of been trained now that a lot of this stuff on the show, I got no reason to really watch it.

The Street Profits won.

Imagine that.

A babyface team won a title shot against the heel champions.

But out of this bunch, they're by far the best, right?

I have really enjoyed the Triple H era so far, especially the production, but it's been great so far.

I think everything's firing on all cylinders.

But I think he's starting to overdo it too with the multi-people matches.

It's unnecessary.

It's non-stop.

Well, when you say he, and yes, the buck does stop

there.

Of course, the buck never stops with Tony Khan, neither one of them.

But the buck stops with Triple H on Creative over here, but he's not sitting there going,

okay,

I'm going to book a four-team fatal four-way match in Seg 5 or whatever.

They've still got writers doing this, and I guess he's

blessing it because, you know, that's the way they do things, and he's got bigger fish to fry.

But

holy shit, again,

it used to be the joke that you would, when you had no other idea whatsoever, you would award a title at a battle royal.

Or when you, you know, later on, as multiple-person matches like this became a thing,

well, I just have a four-way on some indie show somewhere for a shot at the title of the blah, blah, blah.

But

now they just do it.

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Not really.

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Oh, there's a little bit more.

There's another

little

bump in the road in the bloodline saga here coming up.

And they did a package on Rhea Ripley relinquishing her title, and we are still

in mourning about that one.

But

basically, now that,

you know, Paul earlier, Solo told Paul Heyman, we need to find Kevin Owens.

Take me to Kevin Owens.

Well, now Paul's telling Solo, I'm sorry we can't find Kevin Owens.

We've looked everywhere.

They're in an empty fucking room, right?

And Solo's not happy.

And Paul, again, is brilliant here as a performer.

You know, when his mouth quivers and it sends the shock waves, sort of like the San Andreas fault, reverberating through Bakersfield on all those chins.

And he's telling Solo that he's making decisions that he's not yet authorized to make.

He's trying to tell this guy, look, you're not the tribal chief yet and you're overstepping yourself.

And Solo blows him off, won't hear it.

They walk into the arena and I'm loving the production.

Again,

if there was not a live shot going on, there'd be about 17 people at Gorilla.

trying to either jockey for position, ask questions, or just be seen to make sure sure everybody knows that they're working hard.

But they go straight through to the ring for the live in-ring promo.

And the one

thing that I can criticize Paul Heyman for on a verbal level came in this promo.

Do you know what it was he said that just made my asshole pucker?

No.

He was saying, well, you know, I'm a master politician of backstage manipulation and blah, blah, blah.

And that was fine.

But then he said

this statement, and it sounded like he was speaking like Dave Meltzer.

The bloodline is the greatest act in the history of WWE.

I would have bleeped that and find him.

And I love Paul's promos, but no, don't say the greatest act.

Like, oh, there were the, what is this, vaudeville?

And Boimingham at the Orpheum.

They were the greatest act we ever booked.

Oh, yeah, it was the aristocrats.

No, you don't say that.

Paul's smart enough to not say that.

I felt let down by him.

See, the problem is he believes it.

So it's easy to say something you believe in.

I'm not saying that they aren't great or anything, but I think that's what it is.

Well, but then he should say most dominant force, or he could even say biggest box office attraction.

He was the guy saying out loud that he wanted an Emmy for all this stuff, remember?

Well,

Sakura is under contract to Tony, Paul, so you're going to have to find yourself somebody else.

Anyway, that's when the fans started chanting, We Want Roman.

And

so they got something here, too, whenever Roman comes back to fucking reclaim his tribal throne, the fucking stump of the coconut tree or whatever it is.

So then

Paul started kind of having a bit of a nervous breakdown, and Solo snatched the microphone away from him.

And they're doing the thing with Solo now they do with Dominic, where they're just booing him every time he tries to talk.

And, but his story is last week I lost a brother in order to find one, my MFT.

Should we do a Google search of the Samoan language?

Is that

brother in Samoan besides Uso?

What there is nothing?

I've been looking.

There's nothing I have found to explain this.

Nothing.

Okay.

Suddenly, here came Kevin Owens being thrown through the entranceway by Tomatonga, and Owens is all bloody.

And I'm sorry.

I don't want to

throw out any false accusations,

but that blood looked awful suspicious to me.

It was on the side of his head.

Nobody blades their fucking temple.

And it was all over his head, but it never did really drip very much.

That

I'm going to have to call some bullshit on the blood.

But does it work for this?

One, it's on network TV, so they're not going to get close-ups, so they're going to try to avoid showing any detail.

You're just going to see red in the distance, and you don't actually see him get beat up.

You're just seeing him fly out there already having gotten his ass kicked.

It made sense for that, though.

I do not ever support

unless it's for the intestinal bleeding angle from the throat.

And even then, and I've done that before, I will admit, several times I've used the gimmick blood for the spitting up blood because everybody's pussies these days.

They don't want to have their own blood drawn.

But I can't condone the use of fake blood in wrestling because that legitimizes everybody's screwy, mistaken, fucking

knock on wrestling all those years.

The one thing they were wrong about, the blood wasn't fake.

Eh, fucking network TV, bunch of pussies.

But anyway, they beat the shit out of Kevin and they raise their fingers, and then Kevin fights back to the ring to get at him, and they get more heat on him, and there's security, and there's Nick Aldiss, and they're trying to stop the whole thing.

And,

you know, meanwhile, Paul's been crazy about all of this.

But then they get that settled down.

And then before you you comment on the rest of that segment,

the next segment, they go to their, they're in the back parking lot.

And Nick Aldous is with Paul, who looks like he's just seen a ghost.

And Aldous says, hey, do you know about this?

And there is two cars run into each other.

And apparently, Kevin Owens' car was crashed into by another car, which was Tomatonga's.

But Aldous said they were rental cars.

And Paul probably said, oh, my God, because, you know, he managed Tommy Rich, so he had flashbacks.

And

so Nick Aldous says, next week is the draft and all the top brasses here.

And I'm not going to tolerate this.

Losing isn't the only thing that has consequences.

So that was the bloodline business for this week.

I mean,

again,

with the cars crashing into each other, well, I'm not going to tolerate things like what you just did because it's your show this week as well as next week.

I don't know.

What do you think?

Yeah, the police may not tolerate it either, if that's exactly what happened.

I like that they've established Tamatonga's being kind of crazy or willing to do crazy things.

You know, they've gotten him over in

a week better than AEW has any of their guys.

And

I guess the big thing is if Roman doesn't come back soon, how many weeks can you do this cowering Paul Heyman,

you know, afraid of everything,

waiting for Roman to arrive?

Like, you can only, this is not two weeks in a row, this has happened.

I'm afraid if that goes on too long.

Because it seems like Roman's off TV for months at a time.

Well, and

we saw that they signed Jacob Fatu.

But goddamn it, seems to me that Jacob Fatu should add the Tomatonga spot because, yes, Tomatonga looks very impressive physically as far as his physique,

but he doesn't look nearly as crazy and he doesn't is not nearly as big and he doesn't do nearly as impressive physical shit.

So, are they going to bring another crazy fucking Samoan in for the other side?

But they haven't established who the other side is yet.

We haven't seen Roman.

We don't know who Roman's going to show up with to regulate all this.

But

Jacob Fatu better be a fucking heel.

If Roman's going to show up to rein these guys in,

Jacob Fatu would be great in that role.

Otherwise, you have Roman,

again, as a babyface against a heel bloodline.

I don't know.

Does Roman,

to combat The Rock and Solo and

Tamatonga.

And does does The Rock have to forgetting about Jacob Fatu for a second, does The Rock have to to go and, or The Rock, does Roman have to go and swallow some pride to

potentially, you know, fucking join forces with Cody?

That would be interesting.

But nevertheless.

And by the way, I just saw a video earlier today, fan cam footage from WrestleMania when Rollins ran in his dressed like the shield.

went to hit the rock with a chair.

He can't walk.

And when he took a bump, it pretty.

I don't want to say gross, but watching the way his leg moved when he hit the mat,

he may not be back for a long time.

Looks like he really messed up.

His knees are really messed up.

Well, remember, he was minimal.

I don't know whether he hurt himself anymore or whether he was already injured.

Because remember, they had done the thing where Rollins had a knee problem leading up to WrestleMania.

Was he, but then he had to announce he'd been cleared.

so

is he going to retroactively fix uh damage that had already been done

we'll see but as the bloodline turns so to smackdown that was the end of smackdown but what else happened on smackdown it wasn't the end of smackdown that's what i said that was the end of smackdown what else happened on smackdown

You just said that was the end of SmackDown.

What else happened on SmackDown?

That was the end of SmackDown.

Nothing else happened.

But what else happened on SmackDown?

Okay.

Well, there was Carlito and Escobar, and they each had their babyface lucha girl and heel lucha girl in the corner.

At one point, I was interested in seeing more of Carlito about what, a year ago when he first came back.

It was only months ago.

It wasn't even a year ago.

I don't know, but now he's in the middle of this, what is this, a 12 to 14 person fucking mess with the different factions.

And

Escobar won this.

I don't care.

And then damage control.

What?

What?

Nothing.

I like your review.

Damage control is still together, but now Dakota Kai has to do their promos for him because Bayley's out of it.

And they were in the

sky box.

See what I did to EO Sky?

They were in the sky box.

You don't talk about EO Sky's box?

What is wrong with it?

They were up there in the sky movie.

What is wrong with it?

They're in the

box.

They gave EO Skye and Dakota Kai and Oscar and Carrie a sky box.

It was in E.O.'s name, the Skybox.

And they were sitting there doing the interview and suddenly Bianca Belair and Jade Cargill walk into the next sky box

and

neither one of them was named Sky, so I can't make any puns.

And they're going to watch the title match with Bailey and Naomi.

Two baby faces for the women's title.

You just know I was on the edge of my seat for that.

Would you like to know what the finish was of that, Brian?

You know, now that you mentioned that was the main event, I did watch it.

I did see the finish.

Well, and I'll tell everybody else what the finish was because they didn't have one.

Tiffany Stratton just came in and beat both girls up and moonsaulted both of them, did she not?

It was a beautiful moonsault.

I have to say, that was perfect.

It was a beautiful moonsault.

But Tiffany Stratton came in and we've established now

the girls in the one sky box, EO Sky's box,

they're not happy with Bailey.

So they wanted to see Bailey get shit kicked out of her by anybody, right?

But we established that Jade Cargill and Bianca Belair were in the box just right next to him.

And

we, I guess, and they showed him afterwards, they didn't go anywhere.

So

are they friends with Naomi?

But when

somebody comes in and starts kicking a shit out of her from behind and having their way with her, they just sit there and watch and go, well, shit, I wish that wasn't happening right in front of me.

They didn't make any move to

skybox.

What do you want them to do?

Zipline down?

That's fucking, it's a, what is it, 150 feet?

This shit went on for a while in the ring.

They may have to take an elevator to get down.

I don't know if there's stairs that are available from where they are.

There looked like, in the right in the same shot as they were being interviewed in earlier, it looked like stairs that went right down to the goddamn floor.

To me, that's that's standard in most arenas.

It's something about the fire code.

You got to have stairs to go up and down from the floor to the

outside of the thing.

You can't just,

okay, we're up in the cheap seats.

So if we want to get to the floor, we got a zip line.

Just in case there's a fire, mom, did you bring the goddamn parachute?

They're not in the cheap seats.

They're in the skybox.

Like you said, you don't just have to.

Wow, skybox is all the way up there.

That's in the cheaper seats, but they're more expensive.

But it's farther.

The point being, if it was your wife or mother,

And then they were being assaulted by a fucking perpetrator.

Hey, why is my wife or mother in the ring?

I would say, why is my wife or mother in the ring right now?

Well, nevertheless, if it was someone that you cared about and felt deeply about, would you have been able to get from that sky box down to that ring by the time this assault was going on?

The question is, do you run down there and lose sight of what's happening for a little bit?

Or do you stand there and watch so you know everything that happened so you could testify?

Motherfucker, if it's alleged to be my friend, I want to see the footage of that son of a bitch climbing over the front of the box and dropping to the seats below to come get my ass.

Fucking looking for the goddamn elevator.

I couldn't find the signs.

Where's security?

I went to get my knife.

Where's security?

They could show them how to get down there.

See?

You know, SmackDown's a lot better when we have fun talking about it than actually talking about what happened on it.

Can you imagine if they'd have seen Jade Cargill and Bianca Bel Air climbing

in front of that?

Everyone would be talking about that.

They climb over the front of the sky box and drop down to the fucking laps of the people below.

And they fucking hop onto the goddamn stairs.

And they run.

No, you can come out the side door on them sky boxes, get on the fucking stairs.

You're down there in 20 fucking seconds.

Imagine there's some sort of cord, and Bianca tells Jade, hold on, and she uses her braid to like zip line down.

It'll be on every single newspaper website there is.

Yes, newspaper website.

Yes, they used to be called newspapers in the old days.

Yes.

Grip tightly, they say, and off down the fucking

line they go.

Loosen up your grip.

That's the end of SmackDown, I believe.

That's the end of SmackDown.

That's as far as I'm concerned, it is.

That's the end of SmackDown.

We hope you all enjoyed it.

Jim, I think it's.

Do you know?

I'll give you one more piece of trivia.

Uh-oh.

One more piece.

It was just a few days ago, was the anniversary.

It was

April something or other of 1999 when the first

special episode of SmackDown

debuted on,

at that time it was on UPN, right?

The UPN Network.

And myself and Michael Cole were the hosts of that episode because they wanted to give it a different look than Lawler and JR.

And now 25 years later, I've spawned one of the most successful television programs in all of the history of wrestling.

All because of me on that very first episode.

That pilot episode that caused him to say, well, take it.

Just get rid of that guy.

Yeah.

No.

Actually, Michael Cole asked me when we were doing the fucking commentary on it.

He said, because he knew

this was April.

I was leaving July 1st to move back to Louisville.

And he said, what's going to happen if they pick the show up?

I said, well, you're going to find a new fucking partner to do it with, aren't you?

Because I'm leaving.

And they did, and he did.

And I did.

All right.

Well, that's the story of the origin of SmackDown.

And from there, we will go now to the lights out portion of the show.

AEW Dynasty and maybe even the press scrum.

I don't know.

We're going to travel to the future.

Let's go there right now.

Not feeling very creative today, folks.

Oh, good lord.

Well, neither was Tony in the gang, but nevertheless, that was the time traveling.

That was the big time travel.

We are in the future where we still haven't gone to sleep.

So much happening.

One of these days, we're going to pop up in the future and they're going to announce that they've outlawed pro wrestling.

We're free.

Go be free.

All right.

So we're going to talk about AEW Dynasty here in a second.

But first, since we've traveled all the way to the future of the following day from where we were before,

do you have updated information now in

the distant future, all the way 12 hours ahead of time of what the Arcadian Vanguard network is doing this week?

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Hey, Jim.

Hold on.

I inhaled sprite through my nasal passages when you announced the John McAdam show featuring Stick to Wrestling.

Well, go ahead.

We have some audio that's been sent into us as we are recording here in the future.

Bill Goldberg, I guess, just appeared on a show, 93.7, The Ticket.

Wait a minute.

Are you Bret Hart?

You got to call it Bill Goldberg?

Well, it says here on the screen, Bill Goldberg, WWE Hall of Famer.

Well, normally, amongst all of us, you know, wrestling fans, he's Goldberg, but Brett always had that.

And then Bill Goldberg, when he kicked me.

His name is Bill Goldberg.

They called him Bill Goldberg on TV.

They called him Bill Goldberg.

Well, listen, we have some audio of Bill Goldberg here.

Let's get your thoughts on this.

Bill Goldberg talking about AEW.

I'm just kind of curious if you've ever had a conversation with Tony Kahn about ever joining AEW at any point.

I'm just kind of curious if that conversation ever even took place.

I've talked to him a number of times throughout the past, but you know, and I'll be this is where you're going to get the most blunt answer you're going to get from me.

The product's too cheesy.

The product is too cheesy.

It doesn't deserve to have, I mean, whatever.

I mean, it's not, you're not, you're really going to get me going.

But if

there was a if there was a comparable, viable option as a competitor that would

that would

allow me to still look myself in the mirror after I was a member of their roster, yeah, then it would be a consideration, but

not a chance.

There's Bill Goldberg.

Now, there were rumors in the early days of the formation of AEW that one of the booking ideas Tony Khan wanted to explore.

Stop it, stop it.

I said there were rumors.

I didn't say that anyone said this or that Tony Khan even said this.

I said there were rumors that Tony Khan was a Goldberg fan, and there were elements of Goldberg's past he wanted to bring back to TBS.

Fruition.

So that's 2019.

And, you know, I would chime in on that conversation, but the only time

that Tony's ever been

antsy about the NDA that I signed with him back in, what was it, 2018 now, was

when I emitted the name Bill Goldberg out of my mouth.

But

I think I can say this with some degree of safety.

Of all the people,

of all the people in the wrestling industry, the veterans, the greats, the icons,

I'm glad he said it because it's true, but it's him.

It's Goldberg of all the people

who have given so many years that actually worked their way up in the blood and the sweat and the enduring the being fucked on payoffs and the brutal territorial road schedule and being away from their families and destroying their bodies and trying to uphold the honor and the integrity and the credibility of the wrestling.

And it's Goldberg

that is the only one

that will come out and say, no, I'm not going to fucking embarrass myself being part of that fucking program.

I'm not going to take this fucking little Mark's money.

Everybody else has done it.

Well, except me and Bill Goldberg.

Can you imagine he did a segment on Diet Money?

He came in the back and Orange Cassidy was up next and they had the cross paths.

But Goldberg was a professional athlete and also he recognizes that he has

accomplished something,

especially in the wrestling business, because we've talked about it.

It wasn't his fault that they gave him barely little training and threw him out there and smashed him over

and gave him a lot of money to do it.

It wasn't his fault.

What was he going?

Oh, fuck you.

But when it comes to going out and,

you know, embarrassing himself by people saying, oh, look, look at Goldberg.

Look how far he's sunk or that.

type of feeling, he said, no, fuck it.

I'll not be doing that.

And I applaud him for that.

Well, there it is.

Bill Goldberg, I guess, putting his foot down.

He won't be working for AEW, it doesn't sound like.

But

Jim, AEW just had a big pay-per-view event, AEW Dynasty, their first dynasty.

They did.

I was watching Dynasty.

What did I miss?

Well, it was Dynasty in St.

Louis, upwards of 6,000 fans.

They said it was sold out.

The building looked full-ish.

Well,

I take it that it's sold out for the tickets they put on sale.

They had a nice day.

You can Google the

what is it, the Snavitz Arena or the Jacob Javits Arena?

What is it?

It's one of the newer buildings over there in St.

Louis.

It's not the goddamn Keel Center.

That's the NBA

location.

But they got 7,000 people or thereabouts.

So we applaud them for that.

And I've got to say, as usual, with

AEW, they had good things here.

They just got in their own way of,

you know, them standing out by letting everybody do everything again.

That's not news or anything we haven't covered before.

But

Jesus Christ, again,

I won't belabor this too much, but I'll just get it out of the way at the top of the program.

They went two minutes from midnight of having a pay-per-view on two different days, Saturday and Sunday, and running out their pay-per-view window.

And that was with an hour

of pre-show, as they call them, matches.

If it's a goddamn match in the same ring you're using in front of the same crowd, it's a goddamn match on a show.

I've been fighting that shit since Ring of Honor.

But

that's another hour.

So those people, if they got in when the doors opened up,

then six hours later, they're allowed to fucking leave.

This is almost like kidnapping, isn't it?

They seem to want to be there.

It was a hot crowd.

But maybe for the people who are in their living room at midnight Eastern time trying to watch, of course, I did not.

There's no way I'm staying up till midnight for anything, much less this shit.

As usual, I recorded it and got up early on Monday morning with the roosters and Harley and

watched it.

But Jesus Christ, it just goes on so long.

At some point, nothing could be different.

It's just over and over again.

Am I just

overstating this case?

I don't think you're overstating it.

Now, I thought it was a good event.

I thought it was a good wrestling card.

The issue may have been, if you remember, when we previewed it, we ran through the card.

There were matches after the world title match.

And I think in this case, Danielson versus Osprey was a match that there shouldn't have have been anything after because it was almost impossible to do anything after that.

And you know what?

They could have, they could have just tweaked it a little bit and said,

okay, this challenge match is going to be a special lights out match.

Let them, you know, or and that way have the main event, the world title match, and then put up, because like you see, you couldn't follow it.

It was like Sammy in Montreal or.

you know, whatever the fucking case.

You didn't, you know, it just, and also it was very good.

And then they followed it with stuff that was very bad.

And then they tried to get him back for the main event, but we'll get there.

Anyway,

I will have you know that the first match was for the

Continental Breakfast Championship.

Pack versus Ocody.

And finally,

I've got to let you know at the top of this that this son of a bitch has finally won me over.

I'm a fan of his.

I think he ought to be used used and pushed more.

Which one?

Pack.

What the fuck?

You think I meant Okody?

Come on.

Okada.

Kazushka Okada.

Well, you do, and you'll clean it up,

as Mama Cornette used to say.

But anyway, here, this was the first match, and I said, okay, another one of the bonus babies, the million-dollar, you know,

kids.

I'm going to watch this, and

I'm going to let him try to impress me again on pay-per-view with no commercial breaks, a money match.

This is what they signed him for, right?

To be in money matches on pay-per-view.

So I watched this thing, and here are the random notes that I wrote down of my impressions.

Pack looks incredible.

Oh, Cody looks like a fucking guy.

Pack has a physique.

He has mean facials.

He's got the fucking hair.

Oh, Cody has no fucking body or tone.

He's stone-faced for half the match, except when he's making a fake shock face.

And his haircut is CPA meets peroxide.

Pack is aggressive.

O Cody is blase and slow.

Pack usually wrestles another acrobat, so they do do stupid shit.

But here, O Cody was so slow and not motivated, it slowed Pack down, and he then got over and looked like a million dollars.

And he beat the shit out of O Cody.

And

I had 10 different guys in Ohio Valley Wrestling at any point that could have had the match that O Cody was having.

And you've seen a bunch of those shows.

Can you deny that was there anything that this guy did besides his wonderful standing dropkick in this match

that any of the ovw guys that you've said the top guys the the the densmores the conways of the world

uh were not doing on my television i think okada's better than him personally

what did he do here i thought it was a good match

it was a fine match it was a great match because of pack

pack is the baby face okada's the heel but the people are cheering both of them well that's a honestly though that's a problem company-wide the idea there's no heels and baby faces and sometimes you're a heel with baby faces against other heels with baby faces it up the crowd dynamic in general Yeah, but I understand why that they're cheering for PAC, but what?

Are they just cheering because this is the guy that they've heard about that's supposed to be good?

He just doesn't have to do anything good in front of him.

Hey, based on the reactions of this audience, and again, it's a pay-per-view.

Sometimes people travel in for pay-per-views.

They got a big house here.

I'm guessing this is the audience that would know who the stars of New Japan were.

And if you want to present any of these guys like stars, these are the fans you want them in front of because they react to everything like they're stars.

Well, visually, sitting in my living room, this looked like when an ex-WWE guy would do an indie show and let a local guy get his shit in

with O'Cody being the local guy.

I mean, he's not, is he trying?

Is he trying?

I wrote Pack hits a backflip off the top rope to the floor.

Which one are we pushing?

Pack looks great.

O'Cody is slow and his feet are in the mud.

Pack Germans

the guy on top of his head and he popped right up.

It didn't sell sell it, and drop kicked Pack, and then both of them sold like they were dead, and nobody got up.

And the fans love this kind of thing, but 15 minutes in, it was dragging because it was a 20-minute match of a pack against a jobber that he's letting do some shit.

I don't

pack hit a great clothesline, great German with a bridge.

Okada hit the tombstone and didn't even cover him, and suddenly in 10 seconds, PAC is back up on offense running around.

So

that's the thing, as I've said with Pack before.

When he's with one of these acrobats, he does too much shit.

And he needs to work like a fucking top guy instead of a fucking gymnast and a cheerleader.

And occasionally, he can't put his matches together.

But if he had a fucking leader and a producer,

yes, I see why people would book him.

Anyway,

finally, he fucking did a leaping tombstone on O Cody

and didn't cover him and came off the top.

And

brother raised his legs and then hit the weak-ass short-arm clothesline, but PAC's bump made that one, two, three.

It was over 20 minutes.

And my comment is any booker over the last 50 years would say, I can do something with PAC and the Japanese kids of shits and gotten away.

There you have it.

The fuck.

Good match, Aleg Okada.

What did he do that you like?

It was a good match.

What did he do?

He wrestled the match.

I don't know how to break that down.

What one thing besides something that I just called out, what do you remember that he did?

Besides the dropkick?

Yes.

Besides the Rainmaker?

Well, that's the clothesline, right?

Yeah, and he does that all the time.

I mean, we could start at the beginning.

They locked up, collar and elbow tie-up.

I mean, I don't know what you want me to say.

I thought it was good.

Did you think it was a good match to have a match?

I thought there were several instances where PAC, he even did the goddamn little backwards, backflip, swan dive, springboard off the top, out on the floor.

But here's the problem.

And this isn't even about Okada, who they're obviously trying to push, so they want to give him a win, which made the result obvious before the match.

But Pack never wins.

What has been the big singles feud that PAC has won?

There is no.

So

that's the problem.

You have a guy who can have a great match, and you come away from it thinking, that guy's great.

He never wins.

He never gets away.

That's the thing.

I'm judging on talent here.

I was trying to let this new million-dollar kid impress me.

And instead, the fucking guy that got over was the other guy.

Now, of course, he's been there for five years, and we've seen him in a lot of shitty matches.

And they never use him regularly.

He doesn't beat anybody.

His bookings are shits, just like everybody else.

So I'm not saying he's going to draw him any money.

But if you set somebody down, if the WWE

scouting program,

and I know he's been there, and I don't know if there's heat or what, but I'm just saying if these were two guys

that the biggest company in the world And I've been involved in it, the scouting program, the training program,

if If they were sitting down to watch that match, say we want to sign one of these guys, which one do you think they're going to sign?

Just cold, not knowing anybody personally.

The one on the gas.

They're going to, yes, because he's the one that got over.

Because he's the one that can work.

He's the one that can do some shit.

We can produce him.

This other fucking lackluster,

physiqueless, fucking

goofy, hair-cutted, goddamn, no-personality motherfucker can jump up and do a dropkick.

George Gulis could throw a fucking child.

Oh, come on.

Don't even compare him to George Gulis.

That's not right.

No, because he doesn't have a father that was a promoter.

Otherwise, there's very little fucking difference.

Show me.

Show me.

How Davis is getting ridiculous.

Come on.

You could say you don't like him, but to compare him to George Gulis and then put Gulis over him.

I'm trying to light a fire under this motherfucker and go out and try to earn his money.

This is the most lackluster fucking bullshit.

He has done dick all of shit, as Dennis Dennis Condry would say.

Did you think this was a good one on his program?

Was this a good opener for the pay-per-view?

Knowing the way the rest of the card was going to go, was this the right choice?

Well, yes, because it was leased.

It was two guys with no furniture and

a referee that looked like he was trying sometimes.

So that's different than most of the matches.

So yes, it's a good place to start.

So still the continental champion.

This is the

continental.

Yeah, this is the continental champion.

Yeah, yeah.

Okada.

Maybe that's why he makes those faces because he's not the continental champion.

He's incontinent.

And you can't call him the incontinent champion.

It's too close to intercontinental.

He gets sued.

Well, so maybe he's not even the best person at being incontinent.

He's just leaking on a regular basis.

If it's the continental championship, how does it work?

Do you represent a continent or continents that are connected?

Right?

Well,

the continents

aren't really connected, are they?

Well, I mean, they have to be different.

North and South, they're America.

Well, no, no, Nor the

button, wait a minute.

Now, I haven't studied this in like 52 years, so let's see.

Asia and Europe.

But if it's a continent, then North and South America is all the same continent, isn't it?

Because it's all connected.

Well, I'm saying you could, you know, technically, if he wanted to drive, he could drive probably straight down somehow.

You know, you used to be able to walk from Russia to Alaska millions of years ago.

Millions of years

found you.

They found people frozen in ice.

And so we find our next match.

Frozen in ice.

Like DC villains, frozen and amber in the Twilight Zone.

What was the, oh, God, it ain't the Twilight Zone.

What was that next?

Or the Forbidden Zone.

Where did they put the DC villains?

And what?

The Phantom Zone.

Well, out of the Phantom Zone came the House of Black.

And here you've got Malachi Black and Brody King and Buddy Matthews, he of the unfortunate name.

And

they took on Edge, Eddie Kingston, and Mark Briscoe.

And I'm sure that there was some programming somewhere over in Ring of Honor or on

a streaming site, or maybe they just fucking put it on tape and fucking mailed mailed it to somebody

that explains why these three odd baby faces have teamed up against the house of black

in the six-man tag team match.

I can't blow by blow.

Here's the thing.

Here's my evaluation as a professional with 40 odd years experience in the industry of all of these people.

Eddie Kingston has now become a complete waste of time

because he doesn't work the gimmick that Mother Nature gave him.

We've talked about it.

Some kind of fucking angry, fucking badass mechanic from the Bronx, put some fucking Yonkers.

Yonkers, wherever.

Put some fucking regular clothes on him instead of whatever that goddamn tribute to fucking all Japan pro wrestling outfit he wears.

He looks like he's pregnant with a goddamn watermelon.

And

he can talk like that, but he doesn't do it.

And

he looks like shit, but with the gimmick, that would work for him if he dressed it and talked it and acted like it and worked it instead of pretending to be Japanese and doing Japanese karaoke badly.

With the fucking thing where he does the chops where he hits himself harder than the fucking opponent.

There's no focus on his booking, which is not his fault, but he ought to give them something to work with that they couldn't fucking keep down.

And what he's doing is he's living some kind of fantasy of getting to work all these Japanese matches with these Japanese superstars that are all broken down and immobile, and he can't do that shit.

So there you got that.

Then you got Mark Briscoe.

Who could have been one of the top two or three major singles fucking baby faces in in his company over the last year and almost a half now, but they didn't know how to fucking do that either.

Edge has become just one of the boys already.

Malachi Black is Malachi Blah.

His work is sometimes good.

The spooky gimmick was goofy.

And when left to his own devices at the start there, it was not promising.

But he's been booked rotten also because Tony doesn't know what the fuck.

And then he got sent over to the goddamn collision show when it was going to be the wrestling show.

And then last,

Brody King is a fat-tattooed indie guy that does all the shit that fat-tattoed indie guys do.

And Buddy Matthews

is a fucking superstar with the worst name that I've ever fucking heard,

hidden and submerged in a sea of drech.

So there you go.

What do you think they did, Brian?

Can you disagree with any of those assessments?

I think Brody King is all right.

I think Brody King's all right.

And I think.

I thought Jesus was just all right.

Well, that's a song.

That's a song.

Jesus is just all right.

Oh, yeah.

All right.

Well, your modulation's acting up.

Ladies and gentlemen, we apologize for any technical difficulties.

That's because I'm talking about Jesus.

Okay.

Why?

Because he's just all right with me.

And you said Brody King.

I think Brody King's all right.

I think you're a little too hard on Brody King.

All right.

Otherwise, everything's probably.

Otherwise, Mark Briscoe is one of the bigger missed opportunities in AEW history, and there's been a lot of people, and he's one of the people at the top of the list.

Well, anyway,

so they all did the things they all do.

At one point, Buddy got in, looked fantastic, and then Kingston sat his fat ass down in the ring and told this jacked-up muscle fucking head to kick him.

And that was about six minutes into the match.

And I said, I'm done with this shit.

I hate skip Mark Briscoe, but eh.

So we go to the finish.

And basically, all three of the babyfaces speared all three of the heels and everybody sold.

And it was the corpse referee, of course.

So for some reason.

He turned his back forever.

Even way before he had to, before malachi black was even loading up his fucking mist and nobody but anyway edge stands up and goes for the deal and malachi black spits the mist in edge's face and hits his kick cover one two three and

of course the referee counted even though edge's face was covered with a bucket of green paint

18-minute match and i skipped the last 12.

i think

i maybe made the right decision what did i miss I did have that same thought, too, as the referees counting.

Like, one, two.

Hey, what's that shit on this guy's face?

You're so greedy.

What happened to this guy?

You know, it was all right.

I'm sick of Adam Copeland.

I haven't been a fan of Eddie Kingston's in-ring work in a while.

Mark Briscoe, because of the way he's been used and who he's been used with, I have no interest in right now.

House of Black are okay

somehow, you know, at times, and then they disappear and then they reappear.

And we're not talking about the blackouts, we're talking about they just go away from the show.

They're off TV, and you hear that they're difficult, and then they reappear, and they say they're not difficult, and then they're off TV again.

I don't know, we'll see what happens.

The six-man titles were unified during the pre-show.

I don't know if you saw about this.

Oh, I don't,

I heard about this on

the interweb that apparently now

Jay White and the Gunboys beat the Acclaimed and Billy Gunn for their six-man belts.

So now they've got both the six-man belts, which means they've got one, two, three, four.

They got six belts.

That's kind of, it works out kind of good.

And how far has the acclaimed fallen that they lose their belts on the pre-show?

A lot of people were up in arms, too, about Max Caster.

Let me play a little bit of this since you didn't hear it.

Here's Max Caster.

Oh, good lord.

Yo, I'll treat you like a light.

Switchblades, what I switch.

I'll fulfill your fantasy, and I'm gonna make you my bitch.

Yo, this dude's just making me sick.

I'll violate you so bad, you'll have to tell the legal team about the taste of my dick.

So, a lot of people up in arms about that because

Max Caster is basically saying he's gonna commit sexual violence against Jimmy.

But also, more importantly,

how did they ISO that without the music that he's rapping over the top of?

It was a cappella.

There was no music during that portion.

Oh, good Lord.

Well, then,

they don't need to ever do that again.

Because it sounds like something when he's got the music, right?

When he ain't got the music, he just sounds like some kind of fucking delinquent child,

you know, saying naughty things.

There's no...

There's no rhythm.

There's no oomph.

There's no confidence.

There's no...

hey, I thought of something else.

I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, uh, you know,

concerned about is besides the fact that do they want people saying dick?

Cause there's kids there that could the fucking sexual violence blow me, but there's kids, do you want the taste of my dick in your kids' ears, so to speak?

And secondly,

why weren't they playing any music over that shit?

Because it goddamn sounds amateur and rotten.

Well, Dave Meltzer has a report here on twitter it says uh from 18 hours ago right after this happened i think max caster may get in trouble

so we'll see what happens there but that's the six-man division the house of black and the bang bang gang

who now have their titles with uh juice robinson somewhere to be found somewhere hopefully he'll be on his own when he comes back maybe he'll have amnesia and he won't be able to remember who he was teamed up with but you know it is interesting though.

There are a lot of people who you would think should be about to come back or coming back within the next few months, whether it's, you know, Juice Robinson.

You know, I see a lot of people talking about Britt Baker and Jamie Hayter.

Where the hell are they?

Oh, my.

I forgot.

Well, I didn't forget about Britt Baker, but

I've tried.

No, but I forgot about Jamie Hayter.

MJF?

At a certain point, I mean, he can't be injured forever.

Well, I think he needs to be injured a lot longer to get the taste out of people's mouth what they last saw but my point is they have people that have been away for a while that should i mean and there's more i'm sure that i'm not thinking of off the top of my head that should be available at some point in the future so we'll see what happens but uh that was the six-man match yes and the six-man division update and I skipped the last 12 minutes of that.

But Brian, what do you think the odds are that I just skipped the rest of this show?

Oh, I hope you watch this show.

I hope there's so many, even the women's matches I want to hear, especially one of the women's matches.

What do you think the odds are?

What about the over and under?

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We do.

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That's up to the present time.

There are still only 50 of the United States of America, but we're hoping for, we're pulling for Puerto Rico.

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So they should at least get some sovereignty over their own land when every day all these fucking lawbreakers come into work.

All righty, are we moving on?

We are.

I hope we are.

I certainly hope.

Well, I just, that was, I wanted to get your input on this.

I didn't want to make you feel left out.

It's your show.

The TBS title was on the line with Willow Nightingale against Julia Hart.

And now we have heard: have we gotten any verification that Julia was injured or maybe she just

something's hampering her

because she didn't get very active in the mixtag the other night?

And then this was short and simple.

Willow won with the power bomb in seven minutes, one, two, three,

which, of course,

we said

they've been pointing toward Willow and Mercedes Moon for the next pay-per-view, and Willow's over.

So I think that this was the right decision to make to put the belt on Willow, but hopefully Julia, because she does, she looks like a star.

She just needs some experience to get to NXT as soon as possible.

And I think they'll, you know, she'll have something.

But basically, Willow wins with the powerbomb.

And then suddenly music plays and the taped CEO chants begin.

And here Mercedes moans her way to the ring

and struts up to Willow and mocks her.

And Willow holds the belt up and they have the

face off.

So Willow is probably the biggest babyface reactions of

any girl I can think of on the roster right now from the crowd.

Am I overlooking somebody?

No, you're certainly not overlooking Mercedes-Monet's reactions other than week one.

But also, Willow

is friends with Chris Statlander,

but she's got a manager, Stokely Hathaway.

This is going to be a recurring theme that all of the people people with heel managers are the most popular motherfuckers in the company.

So, Willow's a babyface with a babyface friend and a heel manager that just beat a heel,

Julia Hart.

We know she's a heel because she's with the black folks.

The house of black.

Yes, she's with them.

That's why we know they're heels all together.

And so, Mercedes is mad at Willow and fucking with and bobbing her head up and shaking her finger at Willow.

Don't you think that Mercedes is going to be a full-fledged heel within six weeks because she's too egotistical and full of herself?

I think you're ridiculous thinking she's not already with a lot of that fan base, especially against Willow Nightingale.

I mean,

they're going to be booing her.

flat out who no matter who she appears against or wrestles

because she's so full of her own fucking smell of her own shit and has done nothing to impress anybody but comes out there and acts like she's as as the young folks say queen shit

and willow is they're going to want to see her punch that fucking face in aren't they well the other problem is if willow got this belt just to drop it to mercedes monet to give mercedes monet her win back from when she had to lose to willow when she got hurt in the match that'll finish it off that will cause that fan base to completely turn turn on her.

She came in, and other than week one,

where they were very loud, I mean, the building was all for her.

It was a hometown crowd.

They're not chanting CEO.

They're piping that in with the song, and it's really loud, and it sounds like people.

But when that part dies down, you realize people are just standing there.

They're not moving.

I had that thought with Jericho.

Jericho came out.

And they panned the crowd and people weren't moving.

No one was like lifting their hands and saying, yeah.

no one was even booing.

Just no one was moving.

They didn't care.

If you move, no one moved.

So I think

they took that warning to heart.

So I think with her, she's worn out her welcome quickly because she hasn't done anything.

And her promos have been really weak.

And those are pre-taped.

And those are pre-taped.

And Willow got herself over before she even got there.

She got herself over.

There is something with her and Statlander, both from Long Island.

Both are two of the more talented women there.

I mean, this match was too weird.

I don't know why they have a manager.

I don't, there's been no explanation about the route of Stokely from being the heel manager of the firm, right?

Wasn't that it?

They were helping MJF

to being the babyface manager of Willow and Statlander.

There's no explanation.

But I think Willow's really good.

Well, and so that's why I've said that.

And I think the fans there chose her.

That's the thing.

The AEW fans chose her.

And

Sasha Banks, Mercedes-Monet is a star.

We'll see if the AEW fans choose her.

I don't know if they're going to.

And that's why if they're going for Mercedes and Willow with the next pay-per-view, then this was the right thing for Willow to beat Julia and not to lose, except

shouldn't they have had Mercedes beat Julia if they want her to be a baby face?

She's not cleared.

She's not cleared, apparently, yet.

Who's not cleared?

From what I saw, and we'll go through a little bit of media scrum audio afterwards.

I don't know if we have this audio pulled up.

I believe Tony said that the reason they're doing the match at double or nothing, Willow and Mercedes, is because she's not medically cleared yet.

Mercedes?

Yeah.

Well, what the fuck?

I thought she got hurt a fucking year ago.

I thought that's why they put her on TV to begin with.

She's back.

She's ready to go.

What if the doctor says, nope, you know what?

I was wrong.

Needs told you to lie.

What are you going to do then, fucking Einstein?

Jesus Christ, these people have all gone out of their fucking minds.

All right.

Well, anyway, Mercedes is going to be a heel one way or the other.

If she beats Willow, she's going to be a fucking heel.

And if she doesn't beat Willow,

then why did they fucking sign her to begin with?

Which is probably the question in everybody's mind at this point already.

Considering the way she does her promos and how unrealistic they are, and just her whole character is an unrealistic character if you really think about it.

Should they get her away from like Willow and Julia and put her more with like a Tony Storm?

Someone who's into hamming it up and into having a carry, even though she can work.

Well, no, because

they'll cheer Tony Storm against her because Tony Storm's good at what she does.

It's not really applies to wrestling except in their comedy world or the cheesy world, as Goldberg would say, but at least she's good at it.

Mercedes, whatever she's doing, she's not good at it.

So, anyway,

I'm on the willow train.

Please don't hit willow, hit willow, hit willow.

You incorporate that whether there's a reason or not at this point.

Well, because I'm very lyrical

and cynical and logical.

So, come on, Super Tramp.

We got another match to talk about.

Did you love the international

intercontinental or whatever the fuck their name of the title is title match between Roderick Strong and Kyle O'Reilly?

Unfortunate for these two, this was my, I'm going to take a break for a little while, so I missed a portion of the match because I wasn't really interested in it.

So I was able to walk away and

exactly.

You know, I saw the finish and I saw the big happy moment at the end where Adam Cole proved he could walk.

Yes.

But here is the problem:

is that besides, I'll go ahead and spoiler alert, not like this is any surprise, except for

Danielson and Ostrich.

This was the only other legitimate wrestling match on this fucking program.

And it was if you want

great bell-to-bell wrestling, which is what

even Uncle Dave says in the AEW fans say, well, this is the greatest bell-to-bell wrestling.

If you want great bell-to-bell wrestling, mat wrestling, high spots,

UFC's MMA-style influence, whatever these two are your guys,

they've got great basics, they were serious, they don't do this trampoline, lucha fucking acrobatic, cheerleading routine bullshit.

They lay their shit in.

It's an athletic contest instead of the fucking floor exercise.

And

the problem is, is that nobody gives a fuck

about either one of these guys because they are booked into that corner

by this,

how Roddy's been used.

And Kyle O'Reilly, after two years of

being out with an injury.

For the first time ever, I think, in wrestling history, a babyface comes back from a near-career-ending injury, almost two years on the shelf, comes back looking like a homeless hobo,

gets no push whatsoever, and loses his return match against his ex-friend and partner.

So did Kyle just come back to have that, okay, fuck it, thank you, you're done, because he's useless again,

like they made him last time,

and the people

politely liked the effort here, but none of these guys are over because they've been booked by Tony Kahn

and made to look like imbeciles.

So you got a great in-ring performance and rotten booking that prevented this match from being a money match on the card

or important in any way.

But they,

you know,

when you talk about

the earlier signing, I know you got mad.

I like Okada.

I like Okada.

Maybe I don't like you too much, Brian.

But Okada can't wash these guys' balls

on effort or execution.

And if you had

a serious wrestling promotion with a sports-based presentation,

if we could get the WWE style booking to make stars, along with the execution of guys like this, you could have

pro wrestling as UFC.

You could have weight classes that meant something.

You could have people, the mainstream audience invested in guys' performances.

But instead, it either has to be, and now

I think the WWE is realizing that since the same company owns both,

instead of a fucking indie clown show where a bunch of stupid fucks do choreographed routines with furniture breaking,

you make stars

with individual personalities that people care about.

You give them a reason to want to see these people fight each other.

And then you have athletic

resolutions of those conflicts like Strong and O'Reilly or O'Kai or Danielson and Osprey.

And that's your modern style, bell-to-bell,

exciting pro wrestling.

Not a bunch of children jacking off, play and pretend.

Am I crazy?

I don't think the children jacking off's the answer.

I don't think these two guys are the answer either.

I think this,

I think maybe there was an argument a while back, but in 2024,

things have gone past.

This was like a ring of honor slamberry match.

Roddy's in better shape than he was then.

Kyle's in worse shape than he was then.

Yes, he is.

But that's what I'm saying.

It's not these guys, but

if it was only bell to bell, you can't get much better than these guys.

But it's not only bell-to-bell.

It's fucking personalities.

It's booking.

It's fucking, it's a whole structure.

It's up and down the card.

It's not just one match on it.

And then you go back to the goddamn dancing bears.

It would have to be a style.

And that's what they're doing in a WWE now is they're not having guys,

you know, that are fucking technical masters.

Billy Robinson is not going to become their champion, but they're getting guys over with individual personalities and telling stories, and they're seeing that the athleticism still needs to be more of a part of it.

I hope getting away from the furniture and the indie bullshit and instead going more to the Logan Pauls and or a UFC crossover.

where you get some of those guys involved.

But it would be nice if there was a goddamn marriage, a serious marriage of something instead of these guys having to go out there and do what they were doing very good, great basics, lay shit in,

potato with the forearms, whatever.

But

it's like a fucking screen door on a submarine.

It's so out of place when they're going to bring the fucking furniture back in the next match or do stupid

stunts with the goddamn

run-ins on the finishes.

Or nobody takes either one of these guys seriously to begin with, because one's a fucking hobo that just got out of goddamn a coma, and the other one's been a fucking idiot for the past year and a half on this show.

Yeah, that's the problem.

But it was wonderful, bell-to-bell.

Roddy finally showed some real personality, and then he went way too far with it way too quickly.

Yes.

And now I'm sick of him.

And I'll let you finish the big return of the undisputed undisputed kingdom here.

Yes, that.

And they have the match.

And then suddenly Wardlow just comes out and he's going to step into the ring.

And the referee sees him and says, get out of here.

And he does.

He just goes back out.

And the match continued.

And then Roddy just hit his finish.

Boom.

One, two, three.

And, you know, again, wonderful wrestling match.

And it's a shame.

And then

Cole and Tavin and Bennett were on the stage and Cole in his wheelchair.

And then suddenly Cole got up

and walked to the ring

and gave Wardlow a dirty look because Wardlow's giving them dirty looks because Wardlow's unhappy again

by

being mistreated by and talked to like a stooge again

by the people that he inexplicably works for for no reason again

and then and o'reilly meanwhile has lost his first match back from a two-year injury against his old friend that seemed to turn his back on him in some way i get i don't fucking know they never i don't know what they did kyle was just wandering around and in a soma coma backstage what the fuck well you don't have to worry about the loss meeting anything because i think everyone forgot that he lost the match as soon as they were just happy that the heel was able to walk yes yes they were ecstatic that the fucking devil,

that the man who cost MJF the world title and the long-running black scorpion-like reveal of the devil.

No, the devil got crippled, but now the devil can walk again.

Praise God, he's healed the devil.

Lay your hands on the radio.

They need a staff psychiatrist.

They don't need a disciplinary committee.

They don't need need a legal team.

They need a staff psychiatrist to come out at the end of the program and explain to all of us at home exactly how we're supposed to understand how these people fucking think.

Hey, on that topic, real quick, I don't know where the best spot to say this is, so I'll say it here.

Jim Ross did a bunch of matches on this show.

I thought he did a great job on this night.

He had energy.

And maybe that's the thing is, is because it's four fucking hours.

Good God.

Maybe,

you know, he comes out, boom, it's a start.

It comes in, boom, and then boom, and goes back and sits there because you're numb.

What else can you say?

You know, so I think, yes, spurts, but he had energy and his voice sounded stronger than last time that we heard him or one of the last times we heard him.

I thought he did a good job.

So that, and,

you know, again,

they've got a good announcing team in there somewhere.

But Sockface gets in the way of all of them, and Shivani's just there to stooge.

And there's Taz, there's Nigel, there's JR when motivated and not being insulted with what's in front of him in the ring.

And there's Ian Ricobani is still around there somewhere.

There's a great announcing team in the middle of all this fucking effluvia, too.

Anyway, speaking of effluvia, at the time just flew via by,

it was already time for the FTW title match.

Fuck the world.

Fuck this match.

Chris Jericho's graphic is now the learning tree, Chris Jericho.

The ghost of Ernie Ladd could teach me.

Ernie Ladd's desiccated corpse could teach me more than Chris Jericho can right now.

Let's stop for a second.

We briefly talked about it.

He has filed to trademark the Jericho Vortex and the learning tree.

We literally just had artwork a few weeks ago of the vortex of Jericho, how guys get caught up in it and never recover.

So he's taking stuff from this show now, yes, yeah, and trying to incorporate into his gimmick.

Unfortunately, at this point, even the AEW fans just want him literally, in their own words, they want him to go home to retire,

please retire,

please retire.

And by the way, and also, we're not going to sue him for the Jericho Vortex thing because we, you know, that is our trademarked artwork and copyrighted program and all that stuff, but we want him to have it.

We want because the Jericho Vortex writes itself.

Somebody has already put up the meme of the overhead shot of the toilet bowl being flushed, the Jericho Vortex.

Can I ask you a question?

Because I don't remember the answer.

Maybe you do.

Did Hook ever lose before?

Did he lose the FTW title one?

I mean, the point is, I can't remember him getting pinned or losing.

At one point, they did something screwy, didn't they?

Maybe.

That's way too generic a statement.

More specific, please.

But the point that we have to think about it.

is that they've protected they've we can't say they've protected him he comes and he goes and he's here, and then he's not, but they haven't just beaten him and made him look like a goofball.

That's protection in AEW.

That's protection.

Oh, yeah.

There you go.

But that, I mean, Jericho, not a popular fellow with this crowd,

I think to say the least.

I was, I wanted to give, again,

this match every chance to, you know, what the fuck is he, is Jericho going to try to teach Hook something,

learn

skills that he can apply in his career in a positive fashion.

And then Jericho's pulling out a table three minutes in and they're fighting on the floor.

And I'm like, okay, and it's FTW rules are no count out, false count anywhere, no disqualification, lazy booking.

And then there, Hook gets a trash can lid.

So I'm like, okay,

they're not going to try to teach the young man anything on pay-per-view.

But this,

even if it was a garbage match, it looked like an AARP qualifier trying to lead a green kid 30 years younger than him through a fucking garbage indie match, which is basically

a description of what actually factually happened, wasn't it?

And the fans love Hook and they hate Jericho on a apparently somewhat of a personal level now.

Let me stop you there because I did see some people claiming, and again, we weren't in the room to be fair, but it's easy to tell the reaction sometimes.

There were some people claiming that this was an example of Jericho having great heat.

That crowd reaction, that wasn't heat, was it?

Please retire is not the chant that you want to fucking

elicit if you're a heel, is it?

And

it's the groaning heat.

It's the, no, no, we don't like this shit.

That's

no, I'm sorry.

It's not the fake heat where it becomes a

crowd sing-along thing to boo over Don Fallus's promos or more prominently, Dominic Mysterio's promos.

That's a fan participation.

That's not real heat heat.

There is no real heat heat, legitimately, and that's not me as an old-timer saying it.

That's next time somebody comes over the rail at a fucking heel with a goddamn knife, you know, then I'll admit I'm wrong.

But

the bloodline,

we just saw at WrestleMania several examples of heels who get a heel reaction that is not groaning and please retire or not the audience just feeding on itself and having fun.

They're really booing the heel because they're doing shit they don't want to see him do.

And they want to see the other guy win.

So there's that, there's that heat still in the business.

This match just didn't have it.

Am I being too harsh?

No, this was a bad match, a sloppy match.

Hooks certainly didn't learn anything in this match.

Jericho somehow talked his way into getting another win over someone who It certainly doesn't help anyone other than Jericho.

And what is father's belt?

And in this case, it didn't even help Jericho.

The fans rejected him.

They weren't booing a heel.

They weren't mad that a heel was beating a babyface.

They were mad that Chris Jericho, the human being, was in this match beating another young guy.

Yes.

And

I want to see how Hook is doing with the furniture and

the conditions that prevailed.

You can't even really tell how his work is coming along, but I will advise him to get with your dad and

watch video of the body shots you're throwing

and change immediately how you're throwing them, young man.

Anyway, so then Hook suplexed Jericho off the apron through a table and got a two count on the floor.

At one point, and then Hook put the can over Jericho's head and did the pinata deal.

You know what?

For the Tennessee street fights and a fucking blood feud

with a bunch of fucking raving fucking people want to see the goddamn heel get the shit kicked out of him.

That kind of shit worked, but this is just, it's the worst part of modern wrestling now that they've just all got to.

Anyway, finally, they broke another table, and then Jericho got a baseball bat and yelled, don't make me do this.

You made me hit you

like some kind of abusive relationship.

Jericho pitched him, hey, let me be your mentor four weeks ago.

And they haven't gotten along from the beginning.

So how is it?

Don't make me do this.

Don't make me.

The fucking kid first week said, I know what you're like, motherfucker.

And you know, don't make me do it.

Feels like I'm stabbing my own son in the back.

And then Hook gives him the finger, so Jericho hits him with a baseball bat.

One, two, three.

17 fucking minutes.

Yeah.

Awful.

The AEW fans rejected it.

They rejected Jericho.

If you wanted to teach Hook

how to wrestle a big match on a big show and put him in there with a veteran to teach him that, this was not that.

Awful.

This was not this or that.

This was the other thing.

I hope Jericho gets stuck in the vortex of himself

on an old country road.

I'm wondering, yeah,

looking for a shortcut he never found.

Is it possible?

Is it somehow possible that you could be sucked up your own asshole?

Would it turn you inside out or would you disappear?

That is the Jericho vortex.

You get sucked up your own ass.

You're kissing your own ass and you get sucked right in.

And then it just repeats the cycle over and over again.

And any young talent gets sucked up and sucked into it.

It reminds me of something Mama Cornette used to say.

Oh, no.

Look at that empty pair of shoes walking down the street.

That's Chris Jericho wearing odor eaters.

Mama Cornette used to say that?

Actually, no,

I just attributed it to her because I thought of it at the time.

That's another old joke.

You know, one time years and years ago in the 90s, we were making phony phone calls with Marty Gorman on the line, and he called up somebody, goes, were you eating donuts?

Are they just naturally fat?

I fucked up big time.

Hey, Tubby, he realized, every fucked up was the joke.

I've been on tape somewhere.

Anyway.

Maybe he was still in PTSD from having his head set on fire in public.

He seemed to enjoy it.

It happened a couple times, but.

Well, nevertheless.

Back to Tony Khan setting his head on fire.

AEW Dynasty.

Well,

you know, it's getting late in the program, and the women's championship match, another one,

not the first women's championship match, but the second women's championship match came up with Tony Storm and Thunder Rosa.

And there was Luther's fat fucking head out there.

And Maria May was out there, and Diona Perazzo was out there.

and a lot of things happened and Tony Storm won

you wanted me to watch this earlier didn't you do you do you still want me to have watched this because I didn't watch this it was an it was intriguing to me just because Thunder Rosa always works hard but if I if I I like Thunder Rosa but if I skip Mark Briscoe earlier I can skip Rosa but go ahead it was the women's match it was after the debacle that was the last match so fans were kind of there but not there but they kind of in their own weird way, won them over with the stupidity of all this.

But beyond that, I'm sick of Tony Storm and the entire character.

You know, Gilda is being, what'd they say when she came down to the ring?

From, you know, set to at Warner Brothers or whatever.

And it's like, oh, come on.

Like, now it's just totally dumb.

Yeah.

Well, and see.

We said from the start, she looks good.

She can work.

There's something there.

And then she got the gimmick.

And right at the start of it is like, okay, she's, you know, she's gone bat shit.

We can work with it.

But then everybody else started acting like she was normal.

And it became Green Acres.

It wasn't like everybody talking about why is this woman so delusional?

What the fuck?

It was like

Ben Mankiewicz is fucking,

you know,

enduring, suffering her presence.

So now it's yes.

Like you said, it's just ridiculous now.

And the camera crew puts her in black and white whenever she wants them to.

Alrighty, should we get to the big one?

The big match.

Now, you said the big match, not the main event.

The big one.

No, we'll get to the main event later.

This is the big one.

Danielson and Ostrich.

And I'm going to call him Osprey today because I'm in a good mood.

And again, another.

Another young man shows that he can be produced.

I appreciate that

in a young talent.

But have we explained why yet?

Have we gotten to the bottom of why they, ole, ole, ole?

They're singing the English or the Mexican Spanish bullfighting chant that they sing at the English soccer games to the English fellow, but also to Danielson, who's from somewhere around Seattle.

I'm confused.

Well, we've never gotten to the bottom of any of this, but I think with Osprey, they're chanting.

Aren't they actually singing Osprey, Osprey, Osprey, Osprey?

No.

I thought they were saying his name in the specific version.

They were going, oh, lay, ole, ole, weren't they?

Well, well, goddamn, now they can't sing the same tune and change the words.

Well, that just messes me all up.

I don't know.

Anyway,

let me just say this at the outset:

that if everybody in the business wrestled and spoke and looked like Brian Danielson,

it would be drier than a nun's twat.

He is a special, unique individual.

He does it better than anybody else.

He understands it.

It fits him.

He can have a fantastic match with almost anybody

doing this stuff that everybody else tries to do.

And,

you know,

at one point, 70 years ago, everybody in the business wanted to be Nature Boy Buddy Rogers.

And we ended up getting Ray Stevens out of that.

And

then everybody wanted to be Ray Stevens, and we got Ric Flair out of that.

Then everybody wanted to be the Road Warriors.

And then everybody, you know,

it's kind of dovetailed down

that

there's always one great practitioner of something, but people forget over time

how many

bleach blonde schlubs that couldn't fucking work or how many goddamn muscle guys couldn't stick their thumb in their ass, or everybody wanted to be Mick Foley.

But as a result, we got a bunch of fat tattooed guys taking bumps.

They didn't understand the uniqueness, the specialness.

So the point is, Brian Danielson is a genius.

He,

everything about his presentation, he's not a fireball fucking call the heavens down big bad John style promo,

but he talks like he looks like he should talk.

And he's a witty,

especially when he was that heel, the smart ass kind of guy.

And he's got some fire to him, his baby face.

And he looks like shit

visually because he's small and he's pale, but that makes him an underdog and a babyface.

And it works for him because the way he works

gets around any of those shortcomings.

The unique special people violate the rules in a lot of cases of what should or shouldn't get over.

But the most important thing is he understands how to put these things together.

And they make sense.

And it doesn't just become Eddie Kingston and some Japanese baked potato with arms and legs standing there wailing away on each other.

It looks like two drunks in a goddamn mud fight.

Does that make any sense, Brian?

It makes sense, sure.

Then that's what I don't understand

why more people can't look in the mirror and say, yes,

a guy like Danielson or a guy like Mick Foley or whoever gives the average person hope that they too could be a big star.

But when they try to do their shit and they can't do it, why don't those people realize it?

Because if this had been any two other people than Danielson and my boy Will Osprey,

this would have been the shits

because it would have been guys imitating

what these guys are able to do physically, and probably they'd be imitating it badly.

And it shows also

that Osprey

is the same as Swerve, as PAC, and some of the others, if they're wrestling one of these fucking cheerleaders, that it all becomes tumbling and flips, or if they have the garbage match or whatever, it's furniture.

But if they have a legitimate opponent, they slow down, they make it serious.

They can do this shit.

And

I think that Will benefited greatly from having Danielson as an in-ring producer because, yes, Danielson has wrestled in other countries all over the world, but he's wrestling in front of big American crowds and he knows how to fucking work a match for them.

And Will was there every step of the way.

So,

you know, even though it was a modern-style match, it still looked like a contest.

It wasn't the Japanese karaoke.

When they do the mat wrestling, they don't overlook the little shit and it doesn't look hokey.

They built

the match as much as you can anymore in these modern times to bigger moves as they went

and and didn't just you know blow their whole fucking load in the first 10 minutes and then start repeating themselves um

at one point danielson gave him some kind of fucking modified chicken wing german suplex off the top rope but both of them sold and then when danielson finally crawled over and got to cover osprey didn't kick out he got his foot on the ropes.

Even in

at one point when Danielson was really putting on Ostre and Austri,

Osprey, and Osprey got fed up with it when he dared Danielson to give him some more in that context.

And that way, it made sense.

I wish I hadn't seen 100 clowns do it first badly.

And so,

again, this is another example, but this even more so, I said with Kyle and Roddy earlier.

But if the WWE star-making machine

could be, and the booking logic and sense and plans

could be applied to guys who could

do something like that,

this shit would get over to a wider audience.

But

it's either feast or famine.

As I said before, it's either these guys just being allowed to do all this bullshit, just everybody can do whatever they want.

So none of it means anything.

Or in the WWE, they've got so much money tied up in each guy on the roster that they don't want to do anything dangerous.

It'd be nice if we can meet in the middle, not too hot, not too cold.

So anyway, the crowd was going fucking nuts for this whole goddamn thing.

And at one point,

Osprey went for the cutter off the ropes and Danielson hit him with a jumping knee and the fans lost their shit.

And I think Will lost some teeth teeth because that was fucking stiff.

And then

they went to opposite corners and fired the crowd up and charged and

Osprey hit the elbow and hooked Danielson for the double arm

and dropped him straight down but safely.

He tucked him and he got tucked in the nick of time.

I don't

I don't know if I was Danielson, I'd be calling it that close, but apparently he trusted the guy.

And then the referee is like, oh, Doc, check on him.

But Will went back to the opposite corner, hit the elbow, which I'm still not completely impressed by.

From behind, boom, one, two, three.

And 32 minutes, and it didn't drag.

The crowd made it in part because they were so invested.

That was infectious, but also

it didn't drag because they weren't breaking furniture three minutes in.

You didn't feel like you'd seen everything 15 fucking times.

It was a back and forth contest.

They told a story in it,

but it didn't lose sight of the fact that they were in a fight.

So,

you know, again,

O Cody is a complete waste of time.

And I don't think.

Oh, Kata, for those hearing this who are not aware of who you're talking about.

Yeah, well, he looks like Japanese Cody.

Oh, Cody.

He's a complete waste of time and resources.

And Mercedes, I don't believe, has proven herself to be that good.

But with good opponents and booking, good booking,

you can do something with Will Osprey in America.

And he might get the opponents.

I'm afraid he ain't going to get the good booking because he's in AEW.

But,

you know, this, I applaud both guys because this was very good.

With good booking, the biggest match AEW has, I think, on the horizon in the future,

I think it would be Will Ospreay's a babyface versus a heel MJF.

Yeah, now, with good booking, like I said.

Yes.

Because Osprey,

he has proven it from day one.

Again, you can't control how he's booked.

He's looked good in his matches.

Which for some reason were against his own stable mates.

But he looks good.

His promos are fired up.

The fans are behind him.

This match was excellent.

It was a notch above because of the crowd reaction.

Yeah.

The crowd was all in on this match.

They weren't like that for every other match on the show.

It was this match, the people in it.

With good booking, which is always the problem there.

Will Ospreay is the top babyface in that company.

Feel bad saying that tonight Swerve got the belt.

But Osprey has proven it so far.

And,

you know, when you look at opponents down the road and on the horizon, I think that's

like that's the match with proper buildup over time could really mean something.

And exactly because MJF can talk and can work logically and sensibly, and he could produce will to show off his strengths and possibly eliminate some weaknesses because he's not going to be doing gymnastics.

But again,

Don Fallas was on color here.

He wasn't a factor in Osprey's match, but

Will Osprey is in the group of heels managed by Don Fallas, including Hobbs and Fletcher.

And

who's the other one?

Who am I missing?

Fletcher Takesha.

Take K.

Whatever his name is.

Who's impressed you more so far, Takesha or Okada?

Oh, Takesha.

And I'll even pronounce him right for that.

No, that's not even close.

And with Takesha, you can make him from scratch.

And he doesn't feel like he's a star that ought to be getting special treatment.

You can tell him what to do and produce him if you know what you're doing.

And he's bigger.

He's better looking.

He's younger.

He's got a better body.

And his work looks better.

He's trying harder.

So, yeah, I think they ought to give him fucking Okody's money.

But that's what I'm saying: is that Osprey's in the heel group with a heel manager.

He's the most popular guy, except for maybe Swerve, who still has Nana as a manager, even though Nana's now not with the other heels.

Nana never turned on anybody.

But you have to have a heel manager to be popular.

Did you ever think we'd see the day where Nana became beloved babyface manager, dancing babyface manager, Prince Nana?

Well, no, but that's the thing is there, just to have continuity in the

in somewhere somehow

have him come out and either renounce the other heels he had or save or do some babyface act, he doesn't even help swerve.

He didn't help swerve when a swerve was a heel, did he?

He's kind of like babyface Jimmy Hart as a manager,

not in Memphis.

No,

no, in Memphis Jimmy Hart.

In 93 in WWF.

Well, there you, yes.

No, I didn't want to give people the opinion that Jimmy Hart ever didn't get a chance to ever do nothing.

But nevertheless,

as a babyface.

Well,

even when he turned babyface in Memphis for like three weeks, he was all over the show and then turned back on Andy Kaufman, whatever the fuck.

But anyway,

this was a great match, and they've got something with Will.

But

how do they get him out of this group?

Why was he in it to begin with?

He's already had matches with everybody in the group.

So, if they turn on him or he renounces them,

they're going to have grudge matches.

They just had him, he beat everybody.

I don't,

I'm so confused.

But anyway, kudos to you guys.

Excellent match.

But now

we got to go somewhere, don't we?

Down,

down, down, down,

down, down.

And they're climbing the ladder to the sewer system.

When they get there, we'll know

'cause the buckaroos will show,

and then FTR will have job face

In a sewer duct by the retention pond,

there's

a mosquito nest that's swarming.

I wish they'd bite me because of global warming.

All right.

It was time for the World Tag Team Championship ladder match between the California Raisins themselves, the Kookamunga kids, the Buckaroos.

And by the way, this reminded me of this.

Do you know that I've heard on Twitter from John Fell in Baltimore that he is a distant cousin of Homer of Homer and Jethro,

who, besides their major, Homer and Jethro, remember I told you I got the albums?

How did that come up here?

We're talking about the Bucks and FTR and the latter.

Well, because Homer and Jethro, besides their major hit that everybody used to sing when they were kids, I'm My Own Grandpa, Grandpa.

They also, they did the Battle of Kookamunga.

That's how they came up.

But John Fell is the cousin of Homer, just so you know.

See, I know Cookamunga more for

or from Mel Blanc than anything else.

Well, he did popularize the town, much like Buck Owens and Bakersfield, but nevertheless.

Speaking of the Buckaroos,

they wrestled FTR,

and

I don't know why they, I understand, and Danielson probably didn't want a main event.

And that's why I said, well, maybe we could have done a lights out match situation or something.

I don't know, but

I can understand them putting the world heavyweight title match on after

to protect the integrity of your world title.

But why did they think that this could follow

Danielson and Osprey?

Because

even with FTR to work with,

their skills are nullified because it's a garbage indie ladder match that the only thing that the petulant children that are running this fucking

romper room can do,

and the people weren't going to give a shit about it following the previous match, which showed athletic skill.

So

FTR has to go out there again and not only attempt to paralyze and hospitalize themselves to make these two fucking morons happy, but they got to put them over.

When FTR's music hit, remember the 12 to 18 months ago when the FTR and the Briscoes were having those matches that weren't even on AEW television.

They were so good, the AEW fans were searching them out on YouTube.

And they would go wild when the music started and they'd see FTR, they would stand up, yay!

Nessa, oh boy, this means it's the other guys.

And

did these people even give a shit about the fucking?

Even these people, I should say.

I'll put my even in the right place and make it even.

Did even these people give two shits about the kids from California?

Well, I guess you could say they gave two shits because later in the match they were chanting, please be careful.

That's not a chant you usually hear in a match.

Please be be careful.

They think that by doing all the

too many pronouns, pal, Maddie and Nikki think that by doing all this ridiculous stunt bullshit

and the smoke and the mirrors, they can

somehow disguise and hide the fact that they have been lapped by the whole rest of the roster.

And they do the same shit all the time.

And in my opinion, it was a shit 15 years ago.

And they're still doing it.

And they can't talk and they can't work serious matches.

And nobody gives a shit except all of their friends that they got jobs there that still fucking bow and scrape for them.

And from the first minute of this thing, they were on the floor doing the choreographed ladder stunts.

And like there's people sitting there staring at it.

and three minutes in i was zoning out and wishing for the finish because

it was every indie match ever from at 100 miles an hour with furniture well it's two things it was following that other match which was one of the best matches in aew history if not the best match and secondly

they are feuding again for no good reason they want to pretend like the jack perry clip airing with him and punk was a big success because of the ratings.

It didn't make anyone care about this match.

No.

No one cared about this match.

The Bucs have no heat, no one cares about the heel executives.

And when everybody knows what's going to happen

because of the situation they got themselves in, and everybody in their locker room is apparently a blabber mouth, but everybody okay,

just by

not only any kind of logic and common sense with the way that this has been done, but also because we know they're going to win the belts and old Jungle Jack off is going to to show up and help them.

That's what we said last week, right?

That's right.

This hasn't been a secret.

Well, guess what?

They won the belts.

Jungle Jack Off showed up and helped them.

But to get there, they

it Dax was bleeding like a stuck hog.

They had chairs and ladders.

And they made a ladder sandwich out of Dax and hit it with the chairs.

And then they were fighting on a ladder that was bridged on the goddamn desk and the ring.

And then my lawnmowers showed up and I went out to talk to them and I forgot to pause the thing.

So

when I got back, I saw another broken table.

And then I think they broke another one, two or three more, whatever.

Anybody can do this.

There's no, why even have FTR in this?

They could actually have done.

They could have performed at a high level with someone and they could have put two drunks in to do this shit.

And then Dax was on the top of the ladder going for the belts, and the guy in the sting mask ran in and pushed the ladder over and security grabbed him.

They tackled him like he was a fan coming into the ring.

And when they pulled his mask off, which you always do when you tackle a fucking home intruder, before you've even got him cuffed, you pull that mask off.

And it's Jungle Jack off, surprise.

And then...

Security just stands there and oh shit and stares at him like well what do we do now you give him time to mug for the camera yes

and then maddie reached up and got the belts and that was the finish that was

figured on that was going to happen and they didn't surprise us after they finished breaking up half the fucking home depot office section

I can't add anything else.

I can't add anything else either.

I

hope we don't see these two teams in there with each other for a while.

I think a lot of people are a little burned out on FTR right now.

That's the feedback we've been seeing.

And apparently Tony

thinks Jack Perry is going to be the next big star.

How many times can you watch somebody just get the shit kicked out of them and get beat?

And then come back to get the shit kicked out of them and get beat again.

But by

and Tony thinks, Tony thought Jack Perry is going to be a big star before.

unless they've given him, you know what,

son of a bitch.

What?

I didn't realize.

What?

He's been to Japan.

Yeah.

They gave him a new brain.

I've not seen that in the observer for the record.

Well, that's because they k fabed it.

But now

old Jungle Jack will be back and he'll actually have a goddamn brain in his head.

And this time he's going to be a big star a pillar instead of a stump and a pillow.

Should they market Pillow Nightingale

for children?

Some kind of pillow, get pillow, get pillow.

I'll do the jingle.

Is this what people are going to want to see, though?

I mean, in terms of, I brought it up with the Jericho match earlier.

What's heat versus what's...

We reject you.

Please go away.

It may not be to that level with the Bucs right now with the audience.

Okay, bring in Jack Perry in.

I guess that's the question.

Did this produce heat?

Did this do anything that's going to make it so that the fans are mad at the Bucks and Jack Perry for stealing tag team championships?

Or are they just going to be mad and acting up or just making noise because it's the guy that was in the incident with punk?

Well, no,

it's impossible, first of all, for the people to get mad at the Buckaroos for winning the belts in this goddamn fiasco of a garbage indie match because

everything is legal, including a bazooka.

So how can you cheat in this fucking chaos, this mess, this unbelievable fucking hokey horseshit they do?

You can't cheat.

You can't get heat.

You can't fuck anybody over because it's all just mayhem stunts for no reason.

But more importantly,

the babyfaces just got beat by the heels.

Unless we want to see FTR bucks five,

and then FTR wins, then how did this in any way do anything for FTR?

But also,

who did this make Jack Perry mad at or make mad at Jack Perry?

The tag team?

So now we get to see Dax and Cash break up and go after Jungle Jack when Dax has the only match he's ever won, a single match in AEW in his life was against Cash, who never has him anymore.

That's ridiculous.

Clearly, this sets up the Young Bucks and Jack Perry versus FTR and CM Punk.

It would.

It might, but it ain't.

That's what's so weak about this.

So that's what I'm saying is what

who, what are they going to do from here?

How did anybody, nobody cares that the Bucs won the belts because they knew it was going to happen and they you can't cheat and get heat in that environment.

FTR has been beaten again.

And Jack Perry, who's, he came and helped the Buckaroos win the belts.

Well, who does this set him up to wrestle?

Well, somebody else that we don't know about now and who gives a shit.

So everybody's interested in everything as a result of that.

And don't forget Okada, because he's part of their stable, too.

So that's the stable right now.

Well, then in that case, they got to have eight-man belts.

So we can get O'Cody and Jungle Jack off in with the Buckaroos.

Is it time to talk about the main event?

One match left.

Now, it was pretty late in the night.

It had been going a while, but it took the fans a little bit maybe to really get invested in it.

But eventually they did, and this was the main event.

Well, and that's the thing is they

got back into things because it was the world heavyweight title, Samoa Joe, Swerve Strickland,

three hours and 35 minutes into the pay-per-view, by the way, with another hour of pre-show matches before that that these people had seen.

So

over four and a half hours of wrestling, and these two guys in a single match got to follow that.

And, but because Swerve

still has a Peel, they were into it, and they were into it also because they didn't take off at 100 goddamn miles an hour, right?

They stood across

and they milked the people at a Swerve's house and everything.

And Swerve

did indeed work as a babyface, and Joe's a great heel.

But then, you know,

they still, I don't know who the referee was.

I know who Paul Turner is: Bryce Remsburg, Aubrey Ed,

Rick Knox, the corpse referee.

I don't know who this guy was, but he just was kind of dumpy and stood around and stared.

But I think they felt like they had to

get to people at almost goddamn midnight.

They had to live up to some of the low bar set earlier.

So

within three minutes of the match, Joe's rock bottoming Swerve over the fucking announced desk and pulling up the floor pads.

But Swerve did a backflip over the top onto Joe, and then Joe gave Swerve a power slam on the concrete floor, which wasn't the finish.

And they were out there for a couple minutes, whatever, and the referees staring, gawking.

And

I love Samoa Joe.

Swerve, I'm lukewarm on.

As I said, it depends on his opponent.

But

at this, I was worn out.

I'd seen everything you can do in a fucking ring at this point.

The show was too long.

It was running together for me.

And we knew, again, that Swerve was going to win, so you want to stick with it.

But, um,

and I, you know,

I don't know what they're doing with the goddamn finishes.

Or maybe, maybe it's just this referee was just scared or somed

or

stupid.

I don't fucking know.

But at one point, Joe goes out and gets the title belt and just starts to come into the ring with it, but Swerve kicks him.

And he drops the belt and swerve splashes joe's back and does the double stomp and gets a two count

and then joe picked up the belt where it had been laying since he dropped it because the referee never moved it

but then nana gets up and draws the referee and swerve kicks joe and gets the belt and swings but joe ducks and gets the sleeper

And they left the belt laying there.

The belt was there in the ring for the rest of the fucking match.

The referee never moved it.

And it wasn't involved in the fucking finish.

And then Swerve fought out of the sleeper and does some odd thing to Joe's arm and

kicked him in the head and then finally powerbombed him off the turnbuckle and hit the double stomp.

One, two, three.

And Joe left the ring like he was double parked and got the fuck out of there.

And it was,

you know, it was anticlimactic for what maybe a month or two ago should have been the biggest moment that they could put together.

But they let this go too long and they put a better moment in front of it.

Yeah, I mean, it was a good match.

It was fine.

Big pop for Swerve getting the belt.

A big moment, obviously.

He was, you know, really into it.

Really into it.

He won the world title.

But big match, big finish, big pop.

But the show should have ended.

No show should continue after that Danielson Osprey match, especially too, because they teased Danielson being hurt.

And I wonder how many people in the building thought maybe there's a chance he was.

He did a hell of a job selling that.

Yes, he did.

The doctors were checking him, and I forgot to mention that the whole nine yards.

We got off on a tangent, but he did a great job selling, but I don't know that.

I don't think that put a kibosh on the mood in the room.

I think it was the ladder chaos bullshit well it was then it was that match followed by the ladder match which took a while finally got people to be concerned and then you got the jack perry reveal

and then there was still more and that's and then and then it was midnight and and the pay-per-view had a window from eight to twelve and went off at 1158.

And by the way, what a hassle it was for me.

I decided I was going to buy a traditional pay-per-view.

And it was the biggest goddamn hassle ever.

What?

With Xfinity.

Yeah.

How?

That's the only easy thing to do anymore.

They don't have anything labeled as what is HD or SD.

Their website doesn't even give you.

If you go to their website, which a lot of people other than like a Jim Cornette would do to purchase like a event like this.

What?

It has boxing events.

It has WWE pay-per-view events.

There was nothing.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

You went to the website to purchase.

You're sitting on your ass on the couch.

You've got the remote in your hand.

The TV's in front of you.

You hit fucking program guide

and go to your pay-per-view channel, which right here in the cornet home is $9.98.

And you go to the day, and there's the pay-per-view, and you hit buy and record.

You're right.

They had three different pay-per-view channels next to each other.

I'm not too familiar with them.

They all said AEW Dynamite.

Nothing said HD or SD.

Well, get SD because that's a bad, they give you like 10 bucks off.

And who gives a shit?

It looks like these cars look better in SD than they do in HD.

You can't buy anything in SD.

It's a waste of time and money.

But anyway, that was AEW Dynamite.

I'll have you know that when Mama Cornette got that when the phone service out here, when she was able to have touch tone service,

they wanted to charge her a dollar more.

She said, absolutely not.

Why would I pay a dollar to do the same thing?

On the so she got a touch tone phone, but you would hit the button and it would go tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick.

Dollar a month adds up.

Well, that was AEW Dynasty.

It adds up, and time added up here today.

And for that reason, we're not even going to bother.

There's nothing big that came out of the media scrum, so we'll play anything on the drum.

Nobody shit the bed and fell back in it at the media scrum.

No.

Well, good.

There was none of that.

Good to hear.

Your show.

You're rushing me now.

Well, let's sit down and talk about this for a few more minutes, Brian.

Now, what would you like to?

All right.

Folks, we're done here.

We're going to be back on the drive-through Brian show,

where we'll sing Brian's song

and back here next week on the experience with more frivolity.

And until then, thank you.

Fuck you.

Bye-bye, everybody.

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