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Like the midnight and the rock and roll.

He's in a fight for wrestling soul.

Using a racket and some mind control.

He's Jim Cornish.

The keys to the future, held by the past.

And with Tag T partner Barion Last, he sends this message out by podcast.

He's Jim Cornish.

Well, he's never a fake of phony.

He never backs down from a fight.

He never wins the pony.

Cause his mama raised him right.

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Hello again, everybody.

And today we're going to have an in-depth interview with Tony Kahn live on his booking philosophy.

And I've agreed to induct Paul Heyman into the WWE Hall of Fame.

Folks, it's the April Fool edition of the Jim Cornette Experience.

And joining me, who else would join me on this classic day?

Hawaiian Brian, the podcasting lion, the king of the Arcadian Vanguard Podcast Network, Mr.

Co-host to you.

He's no fool you need to fool with, and that's no fooling.

Be great, Brian.

Last, everybody.

Hello, Ha, Jim.

A pleasure to be here once again.

It's not April Fools as we are recording, and it may not be as the show is released, but we're right in that range.

We're in the middle of it.

The joke before WrestleMania.

Well, because we, you know, there's no rest for the weary or the wicked, depending on your old homily or hominem or homina homina that you ascribe to there, because we're recording on Easter Sunday.

We're editing on April Fool's Day.

It'll be out shortly after that, but like you said, we're right in the pocket of April Fool's Day and what better day to talk about people in the professional wrestling industry.

And of course,

this is the

last Jim Cornette experience before the Blockbuster Edition next week,

detailing WrestleMania and whatever major happenings go on there at the showcase of the immortals.

So we can't really take this too seriously today, Cam.

I mean, normal people are out hunting for eggs.

This is the day

when Jesus returns from the tomb and gives rabbits chocolate eggs to pass out to children who leave tooths under their pillows, right?

We're not supposed to be working today.

There's some element of truth in there, Mr.

Hogan, but I don't know about all that together.

Well, you know, Hogan actually, the tooth fairy, he had an individual tooth fairy for each one of his children.

He actually was going to get the job,

the tooth fairy booker for the whole fucking tooth fairy industry at one point, but he slept through the phone call.

His kids are always asking, why does the tooth fairy sound like Jimmy Hart?

Go back to bed, sweetheart.

Go back to bed.

We're laying there in the middle of the night, and suddenly we hear, turn over, little poo-poo.

Just turn over, little poo-poo.

I got to get this under your pillow there, baby.

Baby, baby.

Oh, baby, daddy, daddy, daddy, sister, mama.

Woo, mercy.

But we got a duty to the listeners is what we have to do these fine programs, to keep the people up to date.

and apprise to what's going on in the world of professional wrestling and the various peripheries of those around it, plus whatever crosses crosses our desk here, as they say.

You know,

is Solomon still the night man on the desk, sorting out the breaking news stories and everything overnight while we sleep and recharge?

No, he's the dayman.

Is he?

Is the way he's the well, then who's the nightman?

The nightman, he's the day man, but not the nightman.

Oh,

oh, oh, oh,

nightman.

Oh,

all right.

Uh, for all you always sunny fans out there, This show degenerated so quick this week.

Four minutes.

Because we're not supposed to be.

This is a goddang holiday is what I'm trying to explain away to you here.

But I'm telling you why we're doing this.

For the listeners, and there's one in particular.

And

I got this email.

And Brian, this is why that you and I are sitting here instead of out romping with the rabbits, laying their eggs so that the chickens will hatch new bunnies.

I don't know what the the fuck's going on there, but we should get some eggs out of the situation, but we're here servicing the people.

And I hope the listeners of this show, by the time it's over with, feel like they've been serviced fully

because of this email came and

this

lady's,

well, it's English is her second language.

So I'm going to try to kind of convey the meaning of a little bit of this, but she did a pretty good job.

But,

you know, Brian, did you ever see, you're too, too young.

You're just a mere whipper snapper.

When I was a kid, one of the, in the 60s, one of the network TV shows was Here Come the Brides.

Have you ever heard of this program?

I've heard of it.

I've never seen it.

Well, it was a story of this logging camp in Seattle back in the 1800s.

There were no women there, so they sent away for this contingent of male-order brides so they could all come out and find love and happiness there in Seattle.

And one of of the big lumberjacks was the big Swede, and he was a big fucking guy with the blonde hair.

And he would talk like this, you know, because I'm Swedish, you know, like that.

And when I was five years old, that tickled me to no end.

And since then, every time anything, the Dutch, the Swedish, the Netherlanderes comes up, I hear that in my head because it was indoctrinated him as so.

I'm going to have to have a little bit of lilt of this in my voice.

Did you like the Swedish chef chef on the Muppets?

Well, see, I was already on the road as a teenage boy photographer by the time the Muppets was really big enough where I never

was steadily.

I don't think that's accurate at all.

Now, what the Muppets was a fucking, what, mid-late 70s thing, right?

77, maybe?

They gave me.

Okay, I was doing, I'm already 16 years old and doing three shows a week.

Come on.

I don't have time for the Muppets.

Lazy.

But

let me get back to the Swedes or the Netherlandes or

the Nether people.

The Nether people.

I'm going to butcher these names, and I apologize to the people that I got the email from and that I'm talking about.

But the name

P-L-E-U-N would be Ploon.

Would it be Ploon?

I don't know why you have to have that little accent, Don, but that probably would be what it is.

That probably, I mean, sounds reasonable.

See, I can't say it without, because I was five years old when I'm watching the TV show and it indoctrinated me as a child, right?

Got it.

Yeah.

And Plun

is

from a place in the Netherlands called

A-P-E-L-D-O-O-R-N.

Appeldoorn?

That sounds pretty to the point, yeah.

So this is my name is Plune from Appeldoorn, the Netherlands.

What What the heck?

The email has no accent, by the way.

Well, but, you know, I'm trying to speak the Netherlander ease or the neither.

Nevertheless, you speak neither.

That's right.

Plune, Plun continues.

I won't read the rest of it with him.

Just the names.

My husband has been a fan of the WWE since he was a little boy.

Now he is 43 years old.

When we started dating, I, of course, had to watch all his wrestling videos.

And now, 20 years later, I can also listen to the Jim Cornette experience and Jim Cornett's drive-through podcast.

And thank you, Plun.

Well, but then she goes on to say, I don't think I'll listen to your podcast without him, parenthetically, but maybe secretly I will by now.

Thinking face.

Okay.

Is she hitting on you?

No, because now, well, now this is a serious email.

And I'm showing this is what gives us the the motivation to do these programs in bad weather and holidays.

In bad weather, like with a mailman.

Well, you know,

we got to get the message out.

In bad weather, we sit in our heated homes.

The misery.

The misery.

Remember the one time the heat went out?

And we still did the show?

That's right, we did.

Anyway,

she goes on to say, my husband's name is, and I get F-U-L-C-O.

Would it Fulco?

do would that it sounds like it would probably be fulco

fulco

my husband's name is fulco

and he was the national head coach of the track cyclists a few uh cyclists i'm sorry i have a lisp there

they ride bicycles around a track right

as implied yeah Yes, as implied.

A few years ago, he had a terrible accident with one of his athletes, which left him with post-traumatic stress syndrome and depression due to everything that happened the last few years.

He cannot perform his job at the moment and perhaps not again in the future.

That's an awful and very painful scenario.

Fulco has always been a professional cyclist and besides cycling, he had no hobbies.

But for relaxation, he watches and reads about wrestling.

So that is the common thread in his life.

And at this moment, your podcast is his anchor.

And now I feel bad not only for Foco, but also our podcast is his anchor.

What?

Around his neck?

How could things get any worse?

Ploon,

I appeal to you.

Get him a more productive hobby than us,

or at least more productive than Brian.

Or at least the experience.

I mean, my show, we deliver for the people.

I'm like, this shit show here.

All right, well, anyway.

Ploon has more to say.

Recently, at the therapist, she asked him what kind of things give him joy in life, and he told her, listening to your podcast gives him joy and relaxation and helps him through the day right now.

It almost makes me cry.

And so, Jim, I want to let you know, and she's not mentioning your name anywhere in here.

As a matter of fact,

the subject of the email was thanks at Jim Cornette.

So she has tossed thanks at me.

It doesn't say thanks at Jim Cornette and Brian last.

So, Jim, I want to let you know how grateful I am that you are in our lives or even better in my husband's life with the podcast, because without your podcast, I wouldn't know what Fulco would be like right now.

So, Plun,

we send our best, even Brian, who you obviously don't really care about, or you would have mentioned him in this email.

Yeah, now I'm depressed.

And we're glad that he's doing better and hope that he has a full recovery soon.

But

that's right.

Get bored of Falco.

I'm not going to.

That's not Falco.

It's Falco.

What'd you say, though?

Oh, Fulco.

Falco.

Falco is the guy that did fucking.

What song?

Come on.

God damn it.

Oh, goddamn it.

That's not the song.

That's not the song.

It was putting on the writs.

Right?

He did.

No, what was it?

Was it One Night in bangkok no no that's murray head yeah no it was um did he do the original version of

the commissar is that what it is oh that's right it's the commissar i was the the funky beat

it's it's the commissar falco hold on let's clear this up falco this is not he did not ride a bicycle He is from Vienna, Austria, originally.

Is he nowhere near the Netherlands?

And let's see his,

if we go to his album here, the album Eisenhoft.

What?

He had the version of Derkmer.

Did you have beans for

breakfast?

Einzelhoft.

Einzelhoft.

His debut album, and what a hit it was, with Derkamrisar on there before the other version in English, which went to number one.

But then he did another song.

Was it putting on the Ritz?

No, because that, well, who did put it on the Ritz, though?

Well, I think,

because I've now, and Stace loves this song, and we, because it's in young Frankenstein.

Rock me Amadeus.

That was the song I couldn't think of.

Falco.

Yeah, Rock Me Amadeus.

Oh, that's right.

I'madeus, I'm a deus, I'm a deus, I'm a deus, I'm a deus, I'm a des, I'm a deus, I'm a deus, I'm a ma'am,

I'm a deus, I'm a deus, but at least the lyrics are fucking deep and meaningful.

So who did put it on the writs?

Wait a minute, Who did putting on the ritz?

Now I'm fucking pissed.

Hold on.

I've just gone blank.

I've had a brain fart, ladies, here on Easter Sunday.

Not an egg fart, but a brain fart.

And poor Ploon thinks we're done with her and Fulco.

Taco.

Taco, not Falco.

See, that's what the goddamn it.

Well, either way, get better, Ploon and Falco.

We are rooting.

No, stop it.

Now you can't do that to the Falco.

No, not.

Is he still alive by the way?

Hold on Montaco.

Let me go back to Falco.

Falco, this is his album Falco 3.

Falco, the musician, he died February 6th, 1998, at the age of 40.

What the fuck happened?

It says he died between Villa Montelleno and Puerto Plata, Dominican Republic.

Between?

What do you mean?

Died between.

Yeah, was he on a plane?

What the fuck?

Did somebody shoot him?

What happened?

40 years old.

He's in the prime of life.

Rock star.

Falco died of severe injuries suffered on 6th February, 1998, at the age of 40, when his Mitsubishi Pajero collided with a bus on the road linking the towns that I have previously mentioned in the Dominican Republic.

Well, that's how you can do it in the middle of them, I guess.

He was planning his comeback.

Well, I didn't even know he had gone away.

After the fire, that's who did their Commerçala.

That's right.

De

But Falco did it first.

That's right.

Get well Falco.

Well, no, Falco's dead.

Falco's dead.

But Falco's alive.

No, Falco.

Get well, Falco.

De Falco did Der Commissar first before or after the fire, then.

Yes.

Before, after the fire.

After the...

No, Earth, Wind, and Fire did that.

After the fire is gone.

What did you think when Earth, Wind, and Fire got out of the space outfit?

I don't know what you call it.

You didn't even catch that.

Go ahead.

What now?

When Earth, Wind, and Fire changed their look when they tried to get that 80s look and they got kind of rid of the

classic 70s Spaceman.

Yeah, they traded the fucking, you know, mothership lost in space outfits and the goddamn David Copperfield magic for bandanas.

Yeah, no, I didn't think much of that.

Earth, Wind, and Fire in the fucking late 70s, early 80s was an amazing live.

They were disappearing and reappearing all over the place and in in and out of pyramids, levitating in the air.

They had David Copperfield doing their fucking

trick choreography or illusion.

Yes.

Well, I mean,

if you held a gun to me, I would say, let me go down and check my event program from the time, but I believe that he was credited.

It was one of those famous musicians.

I'm going to put my money on Copperfield.

Now that you're goddamn grilling me about it, I'm just saying it it was an amazing thing.

The pyramid would come down on Maurice, boom, and it'd lift back up and he's gone.

And fucking suddenly he comes up out in a flash of fucking purple light or whatever out behind the sound booth.

That was a big deal back in those days.

He's in some kind of trouble now, too, isn't he, Copperfield?

Oh, I thought you meant Maurice White.

Yeah, he's in plenty of fucking trouble.

He's dead.

Not Maurice.

I was talking about David Copperfield.

Can't get more serious than that, Kennett.

I think Copperfield may have tried to cop a feel or something.

What did he do now?

I mean, is this...

How old is he?

He's got to be 70?

What the fuck's going on with him?

He is 67 years old.

He's an illusionist.

And is there any David Copperfield news?

David Copperfield, the magic behind the true superhero is an article.

Jeffrey Epstein, victim, names, magician, David Copperfield, an unsealed docks.

Well, there's...

Oh, good lord.

There may be a problem.

That may be a problem.

Well,

here's another headline.

From January of this year, David Coffer,

David Copperfield performed magic tricks at dinner with Epstein accuser at late pedophile's home, according to court docs.

Yeah, so before the article, The Magic Behind the Crue Superhero, two days ago, it was all come on Jeffrey Epstein.

Come on, maybe now in his benefit or his benefit, his defense of somewhat, maybe Jeffrey Epstein being a billionaire just hired David Copperfield to do some card tricks at dinner i mean we don't has no one has actually seen any evidence of sexual no he's an illusion has no one saw anything nobody saw

he's the perfect guy to get caught up in this

you didn't see anything there's nothing there

it's all an illusion

so but that's it maybe that's what he's being accused of is making his penis disappear now have you ever thought of that

yeah that's that's something I don't know.

I don't know think about and worry about.

But it was so Falco and Taco and David Copperfield, Maurice White, we barely knew you.

But get well.

Get well.

Plune.

No, no, ploon, plune's good.

Fulco.

We need Fulco to feel better.

Yes, we do.

Get well, Fulco.

We hope you enjoyed this nonsense, whatever this was.

And then also, I got to send out a a thank you also to your friend and

probably only your friend, actually.

I don't think he has any other ones, Charlie from Starkville, Mississippi.

Do you know what arrived?

As apparently an Easter present.

I know Charlie does,

he does have some rabbit blood in him, you know, in the family tree.

So he sends out Easter presents instead of Christmas.

Did you know this about him, right?

He's very wealthy.

He's the richest man in Starkville, they say.

Well, that's

he lives in the big house in Starkville.

He's like the old guy in a legend of woolly swamp.

He's got some tin cans buried in the backyard.

But anyway,

Charlie sent out Easter presents.

I'm sure you got yours, but Stace and I got ours.

He sent a nice box of DVDs.

I'll have you know, I think he's somehow been involved.

Did you hear about the

big hijacking of that Walmart audio visual department truck on I-10 just east of Biloxi.

He may have had something to do with that.

No, he may not have.

But Charlie sent me a set of the entire series of the office from start to finish on 38 fucking DVDs in the box set of this thing.

It's amazingly thick.

The girth of this thing.

You've seen the office.

Someone send him curb your enthusiasm.

Oh,

see, don't beg for things.

I'm not begging.

I'm demanding.

Someone, send him one.

Someone at once, send him one.

And then, but he didn't leave Stacey out because he included a box set of the entire series start to finish of True Blood.

And that was, it was a, she loved that show 20 years ago.

Had a couple of the seasons, didn't have the whole set.

Did she love it beginning to end, or is it like one of those shows where like the last season or the last couple seasons, you lose your passion for it?

Well, as I, because I was along for that also,

I would watch that with her.

And as I remember, they started getting, it was good at first because they were like,

they weren't fully having tongue-in-cheek exposing their own business on the goddamn air yet with the vampires and the creatures.

And it was spooky and it was good and it was mystical.

And then about season, what was it, four out of five or whatever, they started getting a little fucking ridiculous.

It was like Tony Khan suddenly started fantasy booking that also.

But it's nice to have things in completion.

That way you can say, well, here it is.

If you get the Lost in Space

DVD set, you got to have season three in there, even though by the time we get to the Great Vegetable Rebellion,

it's jumped the shark somewhat.

But I love the look of it.

Even by that point, the colors, the early television shows in color in 66 and 67, even in the 68, just the way they use the colors on all those shows: Dragnet, and of course, Lost in Space, Batman, the Monkeys, everything.

I was about to say Batman

just because

Handy TV

is not a porn network filled with

five-knuckle shuffles, ladies and gentlemen.

It's Heroes and Icons TV, but their abbreviation is Handy TV,

has the remastered Batmans on in high definition on Sunday mornings.

And of course, I do have the Lost in Space sets.

But yes, you're right.

The colors on Me TV?

Batman's on Me TV?

The remastered ones.

Well, well, Me TV signal, at least in this part of the world down here, is not to compare with the HD

heroes and handy icons.

Do you have high def me TV?

We got, it's pretty standard def over here.

No, we got high def me TV.

We also have high def me TV plus.

Well, now fuck you then.

The second Me TV channel.

They're just giving us just our Me TV, and that's all we getting.

We don't get anything plus.

And I'll tell you something else.

Antenna TV here, by the way, on our Spectrum cable, looks like I'm playing my fucking VHS as I recorded when the shit originally aired.

That's how high def they are.

Go ahead.

I'm sorry.

You have bizarre problems over there.

What I was going to say is, of all those shows from that era, and they made a guest appearance on Batman, you'll probably remember the one show that's like never,

I don't think it's ever on TV, and there's no box set because of rights issues, the Green Hornet.

No,

I'll tell you,

where were they just airing the Green Hornet a couple of years ago?

They ran through the whole goddamn thing.

It was

the whole season?

The whole season, yes.

Son of a bitch, I can't, but yes, Green Hornet was aired

a few years back.

If it wasn't on handy, maybe it was on Blowy.

Well, no, I think it was on ButtFucky.

But

no, but

I'm swearing to you.

If I'm lying, I'm flying and my feet ain't left the ground.

And somebody out there is going to remind me which of the, whether it was.

Me TV early on a Saturday morning or whether it was one of the other

fine nostalgia networks.

But yeah, because I watched the whole thing, they ran the whole thing like twice, and there's only what is there?

Is there 20 episodes?

26.

Maybe 26, maybe.

Anyway,

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And Brian, we have...

Before we get into the wrestling part of the program,

we got to talk a little bit about the business.

We haven't given an update on our

old friend Colin here in a while.

And there's been design behind that because of reasons that we will talk about here in a couple of minutes.

But he's made some news.

So since he's made some news, we are allowed to talk about the news that he's made.

and potentially news that we have made connected with the news he's made.

Allegedly.

Did I say anything to get us in trouble yet not yet no and by the way anyone who hears this this entire segment will be legally cleared so if you got a problem call our lawyer directly thank you 877-50 steve 50 steve 50 steve actually one of the three different

legal entities

working on this case because it involves

such the the scope and the magnitude of it as well as the jurisdictional cross-references and wherewithals, and why fors.

And that means that we got more attorneys on this thing than I think than defended OJ.

But in this case, we're fighting for right instead of if the glove don't fit.

So, Brian, instead of me getting us,

I'm already under the sword of Damocles' threat of some kind of suit here, and I will come in

a second.

Defamation.

Defamation, baby.

And defecation.

Defamation and defecation.

You know what?

That sounds like one of those schoolhouse rock things.

Defamation.

What's your station?

Defamation and defecation is also the Vince McMahon biography.

Why don't you tell the people

since you're better at this what we can legally say about what Colin has just done that we kind of knew he was going to do and foreshadowed he'd do and what we're doing about it.

And then we'll discuss those things.

Yeah, we'll say a few things and we're not going to go too long because also we don't want to say too much about strategy beyond what we want to say.

But we haven't said anything publicly on the show in a little while as we've been doing stuff behind the scenes.

We have three different legal teams currently working with us.

We've done investigations.

We've looked into things.

And Colin Thompson.

Actually, should we tell if anybody has only been listening for three months, we might better better prep them up.

There's an omnibus.

You can go search on YouTube for the Jim Cornette Cast Media Saga Omnibus.

And there's a 10-part series of clips telling everyone the entire story.

Cast Media, who was our advertising agent, stopped paying us.

The money that advertisers were paying them specifically for advertising on the Jim Cornette podcasts was never sent to us.

It was allocated in other ways.

This started last, I shouldn't say it started then, we started talking about it on the show, I believe, last summer.

And since that time, Colin Thompson's cast media has just declared bankruptcy.

They've put it in the papers.

Arcadian Vanguard, representing obviously the Jim Cornette shows, is the eighth biggest creditor.

on the list.

What it says here, and again, any debt that was previously taken off the books by podcast one isn't here.

Anything else we don't know about yet, and we will know about it.

Discovery's coming, baby.

But what we see here is he owes just under $7 million.

Or excuse me, I shouldn't say he.

We got to be careful here.

There's going to be more to this.

Cast media is $7 million in the hole.

I say he, I actually have right here the papers because they just came in the mail yesterday where Colin is petitioning the court to ask for a raise.

This is public record, so we could talk about this.

And if not, Stephen will tell me.

And wait a minute.

Let me just say one thing also is that

obviously, when you say eighth biggest creditor, when we started, for the new listeners, when we started talking about this whole thing on our shows, that opened up kind of a floodgate where Theo Vaughn, everybody from Theo Vaughn to Sarah Silverman to goddamn,

won a pen and teller.

I can't remember which one now.

Ken Jolette, Whitney Cummings.

There you go.

Lots of people.

And then Coffeezilla did a piece on this character, Colin, and this whole flim flam.

And a lot of people, it got a lot of attention.

So there are, while we are in this, there are obviously other people involved.

And it's become a whole big thing.

And it's gone from at the time that Coffeezilla investigated him,

we could find, well, $4 million.

Now it's up to $7 million that Cast Media

is in the hole somehow.

That money went somewhere.

And reportedly, there was a $2 million debt to Brandon Schaub that Podcast One, as reported by Billboard.

Podcast one paid off that debt, covered that debt, and then signed into a separate deal.

So this wouldn't even count that.

This doesn't even count that or any other debts that have already been settled through Podcast One.

More to come about that, but not today.

Stay tuned.

So there's all that money.

I do want to say, if you go back and watch that CoffeeZilla video, on video, Colin Thompson's interviewed, and

the blame is being shifted to these minimum guarantees.

Fans of WCW remember these?

These minimum guarantees.

Actually, WWE, WCW, there was no minimum.

It was just, here's your guarantee.

Yeah.

Minimum guarantees that were given to talent.

that came from other talents money to keep things going.

Problem is, we're now talking about just $7 million here.

Who is the talent that money was supposed to have gone to?

Who?

Who got the money?

Doesn't seem like anyone got that money.

We will find out.

Another thing, and again, I have the thing here, Colin Thompson petitioning the court.

He's been working since 2016 as the CEO of Cast Media.

And it's also important to note, and here's another thing we will find out, but I got no problem saying this.

As discussed in the CoffeeZilla video, and as we know a little bit more about,

Colin's house was put in an LLC

in, I believe, Wyoming, set up the website was from a company that hides assets from bankruptcy.

Now, I have Colin's salary here, and I know how much his house is valued at.

Did he buy the house outright in cash?

Or did he have a mortgage?

And if he had a mortgage, did he put down his annual salary salary of 180 000

because i i now i'm very curious how he got that house but we can't because you're saying there's no way that any bank would give you a loan or a mortgage on a house of that

uh value with a annual salary of 180 000 you never know there's angels everywhere but you wouldn't think that someone with that salary and unless his wife is just rolling in dough

someone would be able to buy that house.

Again, the asset is hidden for now.

We'll see what the trustee thinks about all that.

But Cast Media is filed for bankruptcy.

We have multiple legal teams working on this.

We are the first ones in the fray.

That's right.

Is that a big deal like it is on YouTube?

When you get to be the first commenter, because we're the first person to, and now we're not the first person to sue Colin Thompson, apparently.

We haven't sued him yet, as of this moment.

But no, but I'm saying he's been sued at one point on and off all of his life from his various employees and everything.

But we're the first person to jump in and say, excuse us.

We're first in line.

We are the first ones actively getting involved with this, but others are about to follow.

Some other interesting notes here, real quick.

Again, this is all public record.

This is all public record.

According to Cast Media's paperwork, the statements and schedules,

assets that they have beyond whatever they're already listing,

which includes almost nothing, it seems like.

Where did all those assets go?

We will find out.

But two things are interesting here.

One.

I saw he's got a $400 fax machine.

I think I know where he got that from.

One thing here, for anyone that was doubting this when we said it, he has a finder's fee agreement with Courtside Group Incorporated.

That'd be podcast one.

So the guy who was in charge of the company that somehow lost all of this money, millions and millions of dollars from all these podcasters.

He had an agreement in place for him to be compensated by podcast one, a finder's fee agreement for any show he pushed over there.

Shows got screwed twice.

He got enriched twice.

That's pathetic.

But the other thing here, Jim, of note,

is see Schedule AB, Part 11, question 74 attachment for illegal claims,

causes of action against third parties.

Now, wait a minute, wait a minute.

Again, you're just assuming everybody.

I'm talking to all the small-town bird lawyers out there.

He is a claimant.

Colin Thompson is a claimant as an asset of his company in his bankruptcy year.

We'll list everything you got that's worth something.

He is claiming a potential asset is the potential value that he would get from doing what, Brian?

Causes of action against third parties, whether or not a lawsuit has been filed.

Defamation case, Theo Vaughan.

Defamation case, Jim Cornette.

Defamation case, Jason Ellis.

Defamation case, CoffeeZilla.

There's also a breach of contract in here.

And by the way, this is a legal form that he put down against CoffeeZilla.

Like that's his Christian name.

He gets his goddamn state income tax form fucking delivered to or whatever.

How is anybody taking this guy seriously?

No, wait a minute.

He is.

Now, I agree.

It would be valuable for him.

More people would know who the fuck he was than is ever before in his life if he tried to sue me for defamation.

But apparently he's trying to sue all these people.

Or not trying to.

He's saying he,

this is, I could do this and get some money.

No, you couldn't.

But these are all the people that told everybody on their shows how they had been

forsook and misrepresented to and taken away from.

And now he is trying to get some court somewhere, which is going to fucking, if they even investigate this and look at it past face value, we'll laugh him out of there.

And he's trying to say that he could get value out of suing us for.

Let me, Brian, isn't the old saying, the truth is an absolute defense?

It's not just a saying, that's a fact.

Well, that's

old sayings are even better than facts because they're true.

but that's that's it's preposterous that he would expect a legal entity to believe something like that even if they don't know who i am they can check out theo he's got friends in high places it's even crazier because theo's a creditor for four hundred and fifty thousand dollars plus yeah he's trying to he thinks he wants to sue for defamation all the people he owes hundreds of thousands of dollars to and he's telling the other creditors i'm going to sue these other creditors maybe to get you your money so it's crazy but you want to talk what a a real defamation case would be?

It would be going for a CoffeeZilla interview and saying that you hid your assets because of Brian Last and Jim Cornette talking about you,

even though that's chronologically impossible.

Even though you did that before a single word was uttered, before your name was ever said publicly.

That's defamation, because that's provable.

That's provable.

That was clearly false.

He clearly lied.

And that's provable.

It's on video.

So that's actually how defamation works.

Defamation is not telling the truth publicly.

And remember, when the editor of podcast news, James Cridland, I believe is his name, when this all first broke and he emailed Colin for comment,

Colin's response was to send him a link to an article on U.S.

defamation law.

And when he asked, are you threatening me?

Colin's response was something along the lines of, oh, no, I was just looking myself.

Didn't know.

So this little bug wants to intimidate intimidate people and try to scare people

you know this is his uh second at least his second bankruptcy attorney because the first one that he named in his emails last may is no longer on the case apparently but he has a very very talented attorney we've heard nothing but good things about her but it's not about the attorney sometimes it's about the client and it's about the case and

this is going to probably get really really messy

even if we did nothing just from everyone else but this is going to get messy And I think the victims of cast media, to the best of all abilities, need to be repaid what was stolen from them.

Assets need to be liquidated, potentially clawed back, so that they can be liquidated, so that the victims can be made somewhat close to whole.

And I think there need to be real penalties.

The thing that we need more than anything, because the money's gone.

He blew the money.

Wherever it is, it's gone.

We got to make sure he can't do this again.

His goal,

and again, we heard reports a few months ago, he was operating already under the name of another entity.

His goal is to just push away all this debt, all the money that he misappropriated, the man who ran the books, and just bounce on to the next thing.

But we've heard from people, they've emailed us that have interviewed with him.

Make sure if you see him out there, you remember who this guy is and what he did and what he's still trying to do.

He sent the the Coffeezilla some note about how his mentor,

how old do you have to be before you stop talking about your mentors?

His mentor told him it's not about what you've done, it's about how you live your life every day and be better.

You're still the same guy you were a year ago.

Well, Coffeezilla just did a piece on laughing at the same thing we're laughing about because he named Coffeezilla in there and he did a video laughing at the guy for further calling attention to himself in front of his audience for being a buffoon for anybody thinking that he could possibly

sue him for defamation.

And so he just keeps bringing more attention on himself with these outlandish misrepresentations that Mama Cornette used to say, trying to rob Peter to pay Paul somehow.

I'm sorry, I didn't mean to editorialize that.

And that's it.

And we'll see where this goes.

You know, it's public record, so we'll say it.

He's now claiming he owes us a quarter of a million dollars.

He's claiming he owes us a little more than $250,000.

That's about $100,000 more than he was claiming last summer.

And now he's also claiming a quarter.

But we still haven't seen the actual accounting.

We haven't seen any accounting.

Verify either one of those.

Because according to his own forms here that I'm looking at right in front of me, he says that the money owed to us is only from 2023.

That seems to be a bit questionable.

We also need full accounting for several years.

So there'll be more about this.

This segment has been cleared legally if you're hearing it.

And we'll talk with our council, the multiple members of our council, as we go forward to see what we could talk about.

But it's a very public case.

Feel free to pay attention, ladies and gentlemen.

Well, here's another weasly type of business transaction that's going on in the world today, Brian.

And being as how you once again are the financial, you're the

farberware.

Who is it, Ferber?

faber faber which got faber well do me a favor and act like faber on cnn

and explain to me what the fuck vince mcmahon is doing with 1.2 billion dollars in cash

i cannot tell you that i have no idea what he's doing with it he's a dirty old pervert maybe maybe he's fucking it i really have no idea what he's doing i mean was he but no here's the thing scrooge mcduck style there you go The money bin.

He's diving off the

low board.

You know, those goddamn gold Krueger ends, they fucking hurt.

But here's the thing for those of you who may not be following, and I hope somebody is following Vince.

Keep track of where he's at.

But

when they sold the company, Vince got,

I don't even have the amounts in front of me.

It's ridiculous, but it doesn't matter.

They're so big.

You can't put your head around it.

But Vince got a bunch of money when they sold a company, and he also got a bunch of stock.

And then

he sold a bunch of stock.

And then just recently, he sold a bunch more.

This last few days here, we find out over the past month or so, he sold.

This is amounting to millions and millions of shares.

And they've added it up with all of the

bonuses he's gotten.

He had to pay a penalty, Brian.

Did you hear about this?

It cost him like, I don't know, $10 or $15 million because he had to resign from the board of directors or whatever he resigned from.

Son of a bitch, he lost that 15.

That's like giving a guy a fucking tip for a burger at this point.

But he has collected in the last, what, year?

Maybe not even a year, maybe the last six, eight months,

$1.2 billion in cash.

Now, I'm not saying that they fucking had it in a goddamn rental truck and, you know,

tens and twenties non-sequential serial numbers wrapped in rubber bands.

I'm saying that he has transferred stocks of a company that were worth money on paper in exchange for actual currency to go somewhere and reside in his portfolio in some fashion.

Is that a fair statement?

Maybe he's going to start a wrestling lawsuit federation.

Well, no,

what is he?

Is it a $1.2 billion IRA?

What is he?

He hasn't bought.

We would hear about it.

I think I said this a few months ago.

Last time he got like $500 million fucking dollars.

You would hear about it if Vince McMahon bought a significant stake in any kind of company, one would think, right, or any kind of enterprise.

would make some news with hundreds of millions of dollars.

It's not like he's buying a fucking Pep Boys franchise in Des Moines.

And at the same time, also,

what the fuck?

Who would you call?

Say, hey, I got $1.2 billion.

I want to just put in a variety of investments and things, but break it up to where there's not more than fucking 10 million in one place.

How would what can you, is he buying a private island?

Help me.

What could this be?

I have no help for you.

I don't know what he could be doing.

It's just, it's

frustrating me now.

Because.

Maybe it's for estate planning.

Maybe he's just moving all the cash into something to take care of his grandkids.

Well,

fuck.

I guess is that like a goddamn, I'm sorry.

Well, your grandfather will forever be known as a fucking rampant head shitter.

I'm sorry that my name will be attached to you forever.

Here's a couple hundred million dollars.

But I get, I mean, is it common when you hear about there's all these billionaires in the world,

they own buildings, they own property, they own stock, they own this, they own that.

But is it common for any, even a billionaire to have received in that short a period of time, just like a billion dollars in money transferred to them to do with as they will?

Is this a thing that

goes on in some people's fucking worlds?

I mean, a lot of the billionaires, if not most of the billionaires you hear about, if not all of the billionaires you hear about,

they're not liquid billionaires.

They're billionaires on paper.

Well, yeah.

Because they haven't liquidated their assets, but the assets alone make them have that valuation.

How many of them are just sitting on a billion dollars in cash?

And again, we don't know if Vince has made some investments or done anything else.

I mean, that's extraordinary.

And he's not even done.

He still has more money in the company.

Oh, yeah, he's still got several million shares for, you know, 100 million, whatever the fuck it is.

But that's what I'm saying.

Is it even common for a billionaire to liquidate their positions in a course of six or eight months of over a billion dollars just that quick?

And when it's not like they're setting up the Vince McMahon Foundation, boy, wouldn't that be a fucking pill to swallow?

Well, that's the other thing, too.

If he spent all of his time and all of his life in WWE,

And that was all he cared about, all he was obsessed with.

He didn't see movies.

He had no idea what was happening in pop culture after a certain point.

It was all his own business.

Has he ever invested like in

serious real estate?

He's got the money to do a lot of things that he's never had the time to do if he really wanted to.

If he really wanted to lose himself in something other than wrestling and you got a few billion dollars to play with, you could do some interesting things.

Well, you know what?

That's a good question because

before the big stock

explosion, right?

When he was just a regular old private company, you know, the Attitude Era before all that happened.

Well, no, in the Attitude Era, before all the stock happened, is what I'm saying.

They were making it.

He had the big house in Greenwich that he'd had.

He had the big house in Florida that I,

from what I understand, was an incredible place.

And he went there like maybe for two weeks, maybe not that long at Christmas and took his work with him.

And otherwise, you know, he was never there.

It was worth $10 million or whatever.

And he had everything in those houses and any car that he wanted or whatever, but he owned

the WWF.

The other outside business ventures you would hear about in those days, the bodybuilding, the ICA Pro,

all that.

Was it not just stuff that he started?

Yeah, none of those are investments.

Those are actual projects he's doing and funding.

Yeah, so I don't remember now that you come up with it, him having all of that money, even that he had at the time.

And,

you know, I mean, I'm sure he had some investments or whatever.

I never asked him about his shit, but he didn't have any

interest in any other business.

And then, since the stock explosion, and he became a literal billionaire,

again, I guess the WWE as a company has invested in other things.

But then, until he did the football deal,

again,

you

he.

I'd like to know where that billion fucking dollars is.

He got an island scoped out where he can just say, like, well, fuck all y'all.

I did whatever the fuck I want to do, and I'm taking my private plane over here.

And goddamn it, it's not flying back, so I can leave.

But I'll shoot you down if you try to land.

I don't read the news, but surely no pervert bought an island for himself.

I'll be first.

That's what I've seen.

You know, fuck.

Yeah.

What the fuck?

It'll be me and Bruce.

Oh,

do you know?

And I don't think Bruce at this

part of his life with his, you know, overweight issues and everything needs to be in a goddamn deserted desert island there out in the South Pacific.

He needs to be, you know, in civilization where people can monitor him.

I see Vince sitting in a big chair, Bruce standing next to him like giant feathers, just fanning him down.

Yes, Saya.

Yes.

But

I think there ought to be some kind of, well, I guess there already is technically an investigation into what Vince is doing with just with a billion dollars at this point, but with all the other investigations, maybe they'll find that out as

a little sidelight.

Can he be somehow secretly donating this to cleanse his soul in a private way?

It's all going to charities in small pieces so as not to be noticed.

Not that it's going to be a billion dollars, but obviously he's,

if not, I'm sure it's already started, but he's going to be spending a ton of money on legal expenses the next few years.

Like a ton of money, a federal case.

Well, that's that's what I'm thinking.

Is he preparing to just how

if you had $1.2 billion in actual cash, like Granny called up Milburn Drysdale and said, get my money in a wheelbarrow.

I'm going back to the hills.

Could you load that in a 727 or whatever the fuck that he might be able to fly to his island?

And he's got his money in cash.

He's got a fucking island.

And

you keep going back to him getting an island.

Do you know something?

No.

Is there something you want to say?

Well, here, because here I've been trying to crack this fucking conundrum here, you conundrum motherfucker.

And I have come to the conclusion that if I'm 78 years old, I've done everything he's done, I've got over a billion dollars in cash, and I've got the choice of either dealing with lawyers or being tied up in court for the rest of my life because I'm fucking 78

or just goddamn going to the McMahon Isle, Titan Island.

and flying the plane there with the billion dollars in the fucking cargo hold and not coming back.

I think that's what I'm doing.

I think he might be of the goddamn biggest flight risk in the history of goddamn flight risks.

Because he could go anywhere, do anything.

You cannot mean to tell me, Brian Last, and I will quit beating this thing to death, but you cannot mean to tell me that if a person has access to over $1 billion in liquid funds, that I don't care what they're wanted for on this planet where

that they could be somewhere just fine for the reasonable amount of time that he should have left based on his fucking age right now.

What?

What's the question?

If you have over a billion dollars, you can go anywhere in the world and you can be fine and nobody can touch you or fuck with you legally.

You could be wanted for anything if you got a billion fucking dollars.

There's somewhere in the world you can go

and measures you can take.

Well, it depends on if you're Osama bin Laden, they may want you a little goddamn more urgently, but there's plenty of countries or private islands or whatever that don't have goddamn extra dishes.

Maybe he'll create his own goddamn undersea fucking dome in international waters with a billion fucking dollars and live like shark boy in a fucking tank under the I don't know, but you got a billion dollars.

You ain't going to fucking jail if you're 78.

You can go somewhere and be just fine for the time you got left with a billion dollars if you have to buy the government.

He's going to go to Casablanca.

There you go.

What is the goddamn

banana republic?

What's the cost of their goddamn gross national product?

Hello, Russell Simmons.

This is Fitz McMahon.

I'm looking for a real estate advice.

Well,

if you take

$500 million to some foreign small government and say, just give me the nicest place you got

and just patrol the fucking skies every once in a while.

Make sure nobody comes in in a helicopter.

And

could you see Vince buying a third world country just to be a leader?

Yes.

Just to be the guest?

Yes.

Is there like a realtor.com for third world countries?

Can you find out what a serious offer would be for a country?

Or would we have to come back after we do research?

We need research.

I don't think there's a realtor.com for unless you mean National Geographic.

I don't think there's a realtor.com for third world.

Okay, well, maybe some, because we've got a cultured and widely varied audience.

If somebody can do the work or knows the

information, if you go to a country on earth,

well, let me phrase it like this.

How many countries are there on Earth where if you went to them with $1 $1 billion, they'd let you do whatever the fuck you want, wherever the fuck you want to do it?

That's what I want to know.

Where's Linda?

I think she doesn't need the billion dollars.

Nobody's goddamn looking for her.

Nobody's chasing her.

She can be perfectly fine with her 100 million or whatever down there, right?

Is this why Vince keeps changing his face to go on the run?

It could be, well, but I'll tell you what, by the time he gets finished, they're going to be tackling Wayne Newton on the streets of Las Vegas.

Hey, we've got him now.

Stay down, McMahon.

It's me.

It's me.

It's Wayne.

I think he's going for confusing similarity.

Nevertheless,

point being, we need to keep an eye on this because

I want to know what, what?

We need to keep an eye on this one.

This is the one for sure.

Hey, this is, I'm going to be the one

back

now, somewhere down the line when something happens with that billion dollars that everybody goes, oh,

Cornette knew that something was afoot.

Because Vince McMahon follows the beat of his own drummer and marches to the sound of his own farts and all of those

old similes that you've heard from your mother and father when you were knee-high to a grasshopper.

And you know how you can do the same thing, folks?

And Brian, you too, if you're still involved in this.

I was still involved, but I don't know.

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Well, I figure, you know, sometimes you're so busy in the course of your nighttime activities getting ready for bed, putting in your nose plugs.

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I did not.

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All right.

Well, I guess we ought to

get on the official road to WrestleMania, Brian, Brian, because we had SmackDown this past Friday night, March the 29th.

It's all leading up to next weekend.

We're going to have

the big two-night extravaganza.

And so you would,

I think, does it feel like everything has already been done?

Maybe they'll surprise us Monday night or whatever.

This SmackDown could also have been known as the Stars Have Easter weekend off.

And they were at the Mohegan Sun Casino in Canada, which nothing against the people in Mohegan Sun, Connecticut,

or wherever the fuck that thing is.

I've been there, but it's not like they were at the Philadelphia Spectrum or the Los Angeles Forum or

the Herb Welsh WrestlePlex in Dyersburg, Tennessee, or any prestigious place like that.

But,

you know, the recap, obviously, of last week or last,

not last week but just the previous monday on raw was a central theme through this whole thing and they had some things happen but nothing really happened a few a few things i think that they didn't intend for to happen happened we'll talk about that or the execution of same or whatever but does it feel like we're kind of already there unless they pull a wabbit out of their hat on monday

Kind of.

I'm sure something will happen or something will be added or some kind of extra twist.

But no, this was a really boring, bad episode.

And at the same time, also probably just fine for what their objectives were.

Yeah, as Kevin Sullivan used to say, it was a maintenance show.

It just keeps what you've got

going on running smoothly.

And the Mohegan Sun,

do you, what way was WrestleMania 98, right?

When we were in Boston, Kane Tombstone Pete Rose.

It was the first time, or maybe it was the second time.

One of the times he did it.

Someone make a retro Pete Rose figure.

Where's that figure?

That's the one we need.

But it's got to be upside down with Glenn Jacobs' legs around his neck.

But

the point is, I'm pretty dadgum sure that it was the WrestleMania in Boston where Pete Rose got tombstoned by Kane one of those times because I remember that it's not that far.

Down the road, as they say, a piece up in the Yankee land, to the casino there at the Mohegan Sun.

And And what I was told, and I was part of the office infrastructure at the time, was they paid him 10 grand and he asked for it in cash and he had a car waiting to take him to the casino as soon as he got dropped on his head and carried out.

It was definitely Boston because he started immediately making jokes about the Red Sox and about Bill Buckner and everything.

It was really well done.

And then he returned, I think, one year dressed as a chicken.

Right?

Was he the San Diego?

Oh, was he the gobbledygook or the San Diego chicken?

Now, it couldn't have been the San Diego chicken.

It must have been something.

It was something.

He wanted another 10 grand for another tombstone is what he wanted.

But he was dressed in some fashion.

Anyway, I wish we had Pete Rose on this show.

At least we would have seen some stars.

Now, I do.

I exaggerate slightly because

Randy Orton and Kevin Owens was in the opening tag team match, but they were against Purely Dreary, the,

I don't know what their names are.

I don't care.

I can't watch it.

But the finish of the thing

was the best part of it because Logan Paul came in behind a referee's back and knocked out Owens with the brass knuckles and then dropped and rolled out of the ring and rolled under the ring to hide.

And

the goofy team pins Kevin, one, two, three.

And then they leave and

or they roll out and the fans are telling because Orton turns around and they think he's going to turn on Owens because he looks at him

laying there.

He's like, What the fuck?

How did you lose these two motherfuckers?

Right.

And then the fans are, no, no, it was Logan Paul.

He's out of the ring.

And Orton does the slow fucking burn, right?

Of realizing what the fuck.

And then he points down and then he steps out slowly so he doesn't make noise.

And he flips the fucking apron skirt up.

And there's Logan Paul.

And then he pulls him out and he's beating the fuck out of him when the heels come back

and allow Logan Paul to get away.

And then Orton

RKOs one and Owen stunners the other one.

And Logan Paul runs to the back and with Orton on his heels and steals a sports car and escapes.

So I like the finish.

I just,

I don't know what they think in this day and age.

And with their

with the tone they're taking with the shit that's on top and drawing money, why do they think that people are liking these two tag team individuals or anything about them or how they're presented or what the fuck is going on?

I don't know.

It's not for me.

WWE's tag team division isn't for me.

They never do right by it, but they got to win here.

There's a story there.

I marked out for the

whatever you want to call it, the simple old school tactic of Randy Orton pointing to different sides of the ring for the crowd to tell him where Logan Paul is.

Yes.

Everyone turned into a wrestling.

Everyone turned into a believer at that point.

He's here.

He's here.

He's here.

Yeah.

He's on this side.

He's this side.

And Logan Paul's amazing.

Watch the way he was taking the punches and the way he was getting thrown around by Randy Orton.

Watch his face, his body movements.

I'm not you, but even I could recognize it.

Yeah.

He's amazing at this.

So that that was that was a good part.

Although, but now,

you know, unfortunately, they may be putting a warrant out for him for whose ear that was.

Okada's.

We We will find out.

It was a red car.

It was Okada's.

Oh, now, do you know?

We made fun of the fact,

what we thought was a fact.

Here's a correction, folks.

We made fun that they had Okada,

his sole contribution to their TV show, was

standing in the back watching the monitor of the Young Bucks match, right?

The other night on TV and nodding.

That's all he did.

I said, they gave him $50,000.

Show up and do that.

If you prorate a couple million dollars a year versus whatever the fuck, right?

Come to find out, Brian,

they didn't even do that.

They pre-taped it the previous week.

He was home in Japan.

He got his fucking weekly check to set home in Japan.

And they played a tape, a pre-recorded nodding of him watching a match that hadn't happened yet.

There were a few things on that episode of Dynamite that looked like they were taped probably the week before, and it turned out they were all taped the week before.

No one was at that show, including the fans.

But anyway, we're back at we're in SmackDown.

And did you see the deal where EO Sky did a promo in the back where they were lit up for the sit-down interview and she got subtitles?

And that whole thing finishes up, and then Bailey comes in and just wrecks the whole set and

knocks the lights over.

They're trying,

they're trying.

It was more chaotic.

They're shooting it in a more

you know fucking stressful fashion you know what i'm trying to say where it's not just like oh we we just stand here and just close up on this without even worrying the cameraman's not worried he's going to get hurt there's moving around

and so they're they're they're trying now the problem is

has the horse left the barn is it so overdone that

The guys and girls and everybody but fucking midgets, you know, getting a fight backstage multiple times per show that

even if you shoot it better and make it look

more organic, as they say, are people numb to it at this point much more than they should be?

I don't know if anyone's numb to it.

I think the fans there take the Bay Lee and damage control has been treated seriously for a while.

Eo Sky is good in the ring.

Not that that matters to everyone.

But she's good.

This was well done.

You can't really poke too many holes in how this was done.

I'm not saying it wasn't well done.

I'm saying it's a shame sometimes when some of these things in either company comes along that are well done or they finally try to put a little more thought into it, a little more oomph in the production.

And it's just that it's it's been done so much, it does not have the impact that it once did on anybody's part.

And then, well, and then

after

the fucking rock just took Cody out in the parking lot and whooped him like a goddamn government mule into a bloody pulp on Monday, and then the backstage fight with the girls you know it's it's just it's a constant thing i'm just calling attention to it can we talk about that for a second i've actually seen some feedback you know a lot of people hate the fact that i critique anything about the rock so even when i say good things about him they're still like why is brian such a hater well hey you gave him three or four chances to bring your dog back that's exactly right and he didn't he killed my dog Actually, he gave it away to someone else as a charitable act and he filmed himself doing it.

But anyway,

even when I say good things about The Rock, people are like, you hate him and everything.

The last review they got on you, too, I saw some of the comments.

You said, why didn't anyone come out to save Cody?

Why did it go on so long?

They're saying it's obvious.

He's the final boss.

He's in charge.

Who's going to come out there and stop him if he's the boss?

Look here.

What I'm saying when I say why didn't anybody try to stop it?

It doesn't just have to be the wrestlers.

Couldn't it be

any fucking bystanding person

on the security or the building staff with the fucking building staff be on the walkie talking talking to the manager?

Hey,

there's some shit going on in the parking lot.

Just give some element of some chaos rather than,

and I like what The Rock did with the clip he put out on Instagram since we've taken a side turn here.

Where after the well, and they played it here on the on the program later on, but not in its entirety, like Rock put it up.

But where the fucking production guy, production assistant, or whoever is go clear, we're off the air.

Well, fuck, you're off the air.

You know,

the problem is, they showed that there were still photographers, there were

multiple camera people, there were people standing around,

and you would, at some points, if it was, if it was as legitimately violent as you're trying to portray it to be,

wouldn't one or two grown adult men try to, yeah, this is going too far and you ain't get shoved down or anything, but everybody's just standing around letting it happen.

And then the guy says, clear, well, Roxas, well, fuck your clear and hits him some more.

But

that just shows that the people standing around it weren't taking it as seriously as it may have been intended, doesn't it?

Am I overthinking this?

Maybe.

I mean,

again, people really

resisted what you said, and I agree with you.

Well, they said that, well, the Rock is their boss, the final boss, but goddamn, when you professional football teams try to hold each other when you're fighting a guy from another team, the guy on the same team, they're trying to fucking separate it, break it up, it's going too far.

That type of thing.

You see what I'm saying?

You can only

have a certain level of belief in or sympathy for a vicious beatdown

if

there's some people or some entity or somebody trying to stop it when it goes too far.

But when you see a bunch of people standing around just looking,

even if the goddamn cameraman,

you know, that's kind of accepted.

But when you see a group of people and they're just, oh, we're just scared to step in, and no wrestlers coming out to save the day, and no

office representative or building staff or it gets somebody goes screaming, stop it, you fucking morons, you're crazy.

It's one of my piccadillos.

I like a chaotic scene.

How much heat is The Rock going to get when he does something to knock down or beat up Triple H?

Because everyone knows Triple H has a medical condition.

Oh, and he needs to, you know what?

Rock needs to prep for his confrontation with Triple H that eventually happens by fucking training for the heart punch, just like Stan Stasiak or Ox Baker.

You know what?

He could pull it off.

He could pull that off.

He really could.

It wouldn't be worse than a people's elbow.

But anyway.

You hate the rock.

You're awful.

How dare you criticize the people's elbow?

If you knew

what that he did to Brian's dog, then you would not, I'm telling you, they.

He fucked the dog, didn't he?

He likes to fuck dogs.

Are you saying,

Jim Cordette, that The Rock likes to fuck dogs?

No, I'm saying that he had him in the poy pot.

He had him in the poy pot over there.

Dog thought he heard the word potty, but he heard poy pot.

Because someone's going to have to confront The Rock.

Someone has to be the one.

He's the final boss in terms of being a heel, but in terms of the company, there has to be some sort of on-screen representation that dresses him down or takes him down.

If Triple H can't wrestle, and I'm going to assume that's true because there's no reason not to.

He has to be involved in it because of the natural thing with him and The Rock.

But someone has to be there to take him down a notch so that he can't run wild on the show.

The Cody incident should be the thing that prompts it.

Well, we don't know what.

We don't know what's going to go on at WrestleMania.

I don't know that it's time

to confront him yet.

Because, see, that's the thing.

If Triple H was to come out and confront him on behalf of the WWE as a corporation before WrestleMania, that might,

in my mind, remove some people's doubt that Cody may be going into a dangerous, treacherous situation.

Well, let's after WrestleMania, if Rock does something

heinous on Saturday night, which we would assume hopefully he will,

then whatever whatever happens on Sunday, one would think that maybe it might be time to address it then, or maybe they don't want to rush that because they got other fish to fry.

But sooner or later, rock and Triple H in the ring, promo battle,

you know, two different

opposing authority figures has to happen.

They can't not do that.

It's amazing we're talking about all this.

Again, Roman Reigns,

a non-entity in the conversation, barely around.

You got to wonder what his future is in terms of how he's going to be used and what they're going to do.

Are they going to right away do an injury angle and he's out because someone turns on him?

No, no, no.

I got a feeling that

if we realize that all of a sudden he's in the back seat, they do too.

And I have a feeling that they at least believe that what they're going to do over the next couple of weeks will put him back in a driver's seat or in a more prominent position.

It's all part of the plan, Smithers.

And now,

if we're still saying this in about three weeks, then they got a problem.

You know, I just had a crazy thought, and then we'll end this and go back to SmackDown, which we've conveniently left.

Yes.

If The Rock was going crazy in the ring and the bloodline's with him, you know, Cody and Rollins are down, Jay Uso's down.

Like I said before, Triple H is down.

They're running wild.

What if all of a sudden the glass breaks?

And how come Steve Austin to confront The Rock?

Would that work?

He looked good in Edward Owens a few years.

I know he can't work a regular match or a long match or anything.

He worked a gimmick match, but

he didn't look like an old man or anything.

He looked like Steve Austin.

It would work as far as a pop.

It would work as far as people would lose their minds.

But I duh.

The rock right now, even though he's the rock, he's managed to insert himself in this thing

where somehow he feels still kind of, we're talking about the rock wrestling, and nobody's like, oh, that broken down old rock or he's been whatever, he's contemporary.

If we throw another legend

of any, no matter how good they look, or even if they were going to be, if you throw another legend into the mix, then

it becomes more about the legends.

He's mixing in with these guys, and it's a brand new run.

I think it would give it a different feel if

Austin or anybody,

and Triple H is the exception being a legend, because he's not confronting him in a legend wrestler's position.

He's confronting him as an executive.

But I think Rock's got to be the only

member of the Over the Hill gang in this fucking equation, don't you?

I mean, you would think, yeah, but I'm trying to also think who's at that level who could stop The Rock.

In character, in storyline.

And Endeavor has money to throw around.

And we're trying to make this thing bigger and bigger and bigger and break more and more records.

Well, but.

And you have to work the WWE champion schedule.

One match every six months.

Well,

they've got two more matches that they have to have or they're leaving.

big fucking well I say big pay-per-view money but they're leaving big matches on the table if they don't have Cody versus The Rock one-on-one,

and if they don't eventually have Rock and Roman.

And

if you get those plus this weekend out of The Rock's in-ring career at this point, I think you're farting through silk.

And then you look a little bit down the line when Punk comes back, you got to go with Punk Rollins, you got to go with Punk McIntyre.

Punk Cody is still a thing.

Yeah.

And you don't even have to go there right away.

And Punk Roman.

Cody Gunther.

I'm now just throwing main eventers into the mix of what it's going to be.

All right.

Fucking goddamn

Lawler and Idol.

Just anybody.

What are you fucking just blurting names out?

All right.

Well, let's blurt back to SmackDown.

All right.

Well, speaking of blurting names out, the newest superstar signing Nick Aldiss introduced on SmackDown, Jane Cargill.

Jade.

Made her debut

as a SmackDown superstar.

And

well, we know she's a babyface.

She came out signing small children's posters.

She looks great.

They've already given her an entrance and a lighting look

and the whole production and blah, blah, blah.

She's been produced.

She's being produced for the first time.

And

honestly,

all she really did here was recite a short

memorized promo with very little inflection,

but she didn't screw it up and it wasn't too long.

And she's got a tagline, the storm is here,

because she's the storm.

And she got out and she looks like a million.

Well, I can't say looks like a million dollars.

That's chump change these days.

She looked like a lot of money

and didn't do anything.

At this point, she looks so good as long as they can make sure she doesn't do anything where her actions diminish her look.

She's golden, right?

It was weird when she said cut the shit, Tony.

Oh, come on now.

What do you think of her being brought in as a babyface, seemingly, at least initially?

And, you know, you never know if she turns on someone in this big six-man match coming up.

But what do you think of the idea that brought her in?

We've only seen her as a heel, even though at times she celebrated with her family and at a big entrance and hot women around her.

She's been a heel.

What do you think of bringing her in as a babyface?

Well, I think they probably figured why the fuck

did they present this girl as a heel when they never wanted her to lose and they wanted her to be the

I think they probably said, let's try to get away from what she's done previously.

She's influenced by the,

oh, goddamn, it's a new X-Men person.

Storm.

Storm.

See, I was back in the.

A new X-Men person.

How new is new?

Well,

the Beast, the Iceman, Cyclops,

and goddamn, you know,

the telekinetic girl.

It's been a long time.

But anyway.

Storm debuted in giant-size X-Men number one.

See, there you go.

That was what, 1975?

1975.

Isn't it in your zone?

No, that was right.

That was the end of my zone.

Right there.

They changed everything.

I was morphing out.

I was more into the wrestling.

Anyway,

point is she's a superhero.

She looks great.

She's not.

She's obviously not and shouldn't have the burden of expecting her to be ready to lead in the ring as a heel.

They probably

have aligned her with their other baby faces.

So, some of the heels that are more experienced can lead her in the ring.

We go ahead and talk about the angle they do at the end of the show here, since it's the only really thing that connects these two incidents was Jane being involved.

Jane.

But,

but this is the point is they're producing her.

And if she's a girls superhero

and she's got heels to work with that can lead her in the ring and she's got this look, and they've done the entrance.

They're not going to rush it, I don't think, and they're going to try not to put her in positions she's not ready for.

And

just skipping ahead chronologically, the main event of the program was Bianca versus Dakota.

And Bianca hit her with her finish, one, two, three.

But then here comes

Carrie and Oscar, and they jump Bianca.

And Naomi saved.

And I swear, did you watch this, Brian?

I did.

This was the main event.

Well, when Naomi saved,

were you able to count the punches that she threw when she jumped on one of the girls and windmilled her and then jumped on the other girl and windmilled her?

And did you see

that out of, if there were 87 of them,

out of the 87, 83 at least were either her hitting her own hand over and over or just having a spasm where she was just punching thin air two feet from the girl's head.

Well, you know, most boxing matches, the boxer doesn't hit 100% of the time.

Not when you've got one hand tied up in the opponent's hair and she's stationary.

The head wasn't moving.

She was just swinging like she was fucking

swatting nats off from around her head.

Anyway.

They should have had her glowing in the dark while this happened.

It would have looked better.

Well, I wish it had been dark where I couldn't have seen this whole thing.

But then they stopped Naomi and they got more heat.

And then they played Jane's music.

Shade.

And she walked out slowly and purposely in a completely different outfit than she'd worn to do the interviews.

So she got dressed up, do a fucking run-in that she allegedly didn't know was going to happen.

And but they did the perfect thing with her.

She rolls in the ring and hits three carefully orchestrated moves and lays out all three of the heels.

Front kick and a fucking

ding-dong and a flip-flop, whatever they call those things.

And she's standing there.

She didn't break a sweat and they're bailing.

And she's standing there with the baby faces and they go off the air.

They're producing her.

They're not leaving her to go out there and do a bunch of shit, make it up on her own.

She don't know how to do, as was the case with the previous program.

So that's what's going on with Jane.

Jade.

And yes, that is what's going on with her.

And again, debuting her as a babyface.

And

I like this segment.

Damage control are good.

You know, I have to say, as heels, they're really good.

I like them a lot.

I like those heels.

I like those heels a lot.

What a weird statement.

But that was the end of the show.

Was that everything on the show?

Did Did you just skip ahead?

No, no, I skipped ahead because I wanted to

keep the girls' affairs in order there.

I'd hate to see somebody lose track of it.

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everybody knows i like theory's work i like to watch him work just because he gets the little things that a lot of the youngsters his age don't do well he's very athletic but then now

lately, to watch him work, I have to watch Waller, and nothing's worth that.

So I was going to skip ahead of this, but

I got to call attention to something at the start and something at the finish.

Because the street prophets are the guys that Lashley has taken under his wing, right?

And

what's her, what the girl's name, K-Fabe?

BFab.

B-Fabe.

B-Fab.

Well, you do, and you'll clean it up.

But so Lashley's a big star, right?

And he's supposed to make these guys big stars.

So, this is what they presented here.

First of all,

nobody knows how to be a babyface anymore.

Montez Ford is very athletic, right?

Does all the flips and things, very,

very precise, very athletic.

He does the deal where when the match starts, the bell rings, he grabs the top rope and does a standing front flip over the top into the ring and sticks it perfectly on the landing.

Boom.

It looked cool as shit.

And then Waller kicked him in the gut and grabbed a headlock on him.

First move of the match.

The babyface does a fancy move to jump in the ring and the heel makes him look like a dip shit.

How the what the fuck?

Can you see him?

The bell rings for the Rock and Roll Express to start their match and Robert Gibson jumps over the top rope with enthusiasm to start the match and the fucking heel just fucking clotheslines him right in the face.

Anyway,

so we go to the finish.

And did you watch this or even pay any attention to this, Tom Foolery?

A little bit of attention to it.

The Street Profits, unfortunately, since they've gotten put with Lashley, have been treated worse than they were beforehand.

So

it's hard to really watch this stuff.

Well, in the finish, just to make sure that everybody keeps track of where this thing's going, old Dawkins powerbombed theory.

and then Ford was going to go to the top and come off the top, right?

Well, then suddenly on the screen, there's a video shot of the Street Prophets locker room where there's Lashley and Bayfabe completely laid out in the middle of a bunch of wreckage.

And Lashley, or not Lashley, but

fucking Cross.

What's his name?

Scarlett's husband.

Carrie and Cross are standing there drinking champagne and cutting the promo, and everything in the ring stopped.

The guy on the top rope perched there, stopped.

And Dawkins on the floor stopped, but also

the opponent stopped too.

So then, once that fucking video is over with, Dawkins like waves at Ford, like,

I'm going to stagger back here and see what I can find out.

You just keep fighting these two fucking guys.

I don't know what the fuck that was all about.

And then Ford, who was on the top rope,

goes to splash Theory, who had been laying there for, I put the stopwatch on it, 45 seconds since the last time anybody touched him.

He was in a medically induced coma, apparently.

But

when Ford came off, Theory raised his knees and Ford landed on him and Theory covered one, two, three.

So Theory was playing possum.

But that requires you to believe that Montez Ford would think that this motherfucker was going to lay there immobile and unconscious for 45 fucking seconds while they watched television.

But that ain't all.

Because then

the dreaded team, AOP,

and no, they are not slim, sassy, sexy Congresspeople from the Northeast.

They are two fat guys from the Indies.

And they hit the ring and got some of the most awkward indie-level fat guy heat on the Street Profits that I've I've ever seen.

And meanwhile, Cross and Scarlett come to the ring with poor Paul Ellering trailing behind them, going, why am I here?

What the fuck is going on?

And they are going to stand over the babyfaces when here comes Lashley staggering in

with his clothes kind of ripped from the beating he's taken.

And he rolls in and they get on him and the heat on him is even worse than the heat they tried to get on the other fucking guys.

And And then

the authors of the fat fucking cookbook

held him up while Cross came from behind and knocked him out with one lousy-looking forearm.

Whereupon Bobby Lashley, the only star in this goddamn ring,

is laying there with his face in a fucking ground while all the heels pose unnaturally

in an awkward manner over the top of his fucking carcass.

I didn't like this.

Why would they do this?

I don't know.

I don't know why Paul Illering's there.

I mean, he's not even doing promos or anything.

He just every now and then walks out.

Is he really managing them like he managed the Road Warriors?

It doesn't seem so, but it'd be nice to hear from him every once in a while to find out.

But at this point, what is he going to say?

Well, these guys,

they all suck.

Hear that?

Hear that?

That's the cops coming to get me now.

I don't hear my opinions.

It's the opinion police.

I don't hear anything.

Are there sirens in the background?

Oh, you're fucking super goddamn hearing now.

Can't hear these sirens come.

I live down the road from the fire department.

I hear you.

You're yelling at me.

Well, keep it that way.

Hey, it's becoming too standardized, though, like large on SmackDown specifically, large factions

with a girl on the stable.

yes like you know be fabs with them and scarlet's with them and zelina's with them and uh carmen electra what's her name carmen electra is with is with the other ones the other fellows the other group and then you know ria obviously is a superstar but she's with them like every it's like for every three men there's one woman

Well, because a lot of people would say it only takes one woman to do the work of three men.

See?

So there you go.

Are you kissing the women's ass again

hey what i do with these women is none of your business you pervert these women

these various women around the around the area

anyway at at nine o'clock at the nine o'clock hour the jig was up at the nine o'clock hour

um on smackdown

Pablo Escobar and the Lucha Heels came out and did a promo, and then Dominic Mystio came out and responded to the promo.

And then Rey Mysterio and the Lucha Babyfaces came out and responded to the promo.

And then Dragon Lee

came out as a result of the promo.

And at that point, I counted 11 people in the fucking ring.

And it's just

there's not a lot of laser focus on this deal with these warring factions.

But as you mentioned, you gotta

have a girl.

It's a man's world.

Oh, no, please don't.

Come on, it's a man's world, but it wouldn't be nothing.

And you don't have a woman or a girl, and you don't sing like one.

Just back, let me kiss myself.

Yeah, why don't you try that right now?

What I was going to say is something.

Oh,

you didn't really say it.

They introduced Dragon Lee as the new member of the LWO,

and he's going to be Ray's partner at WrestleMania in the tag match against Dominic and Escobar.

Yeah.

And the entire time I'm watching, I'm like, Carlito must be like, what did I sign up for?

I'm doing nothing.

Yeah, I'd like to see the biggest one in here.

I'd like to see him interact with anybody that's not in this group at this point.

But

he's got the wrong father, apparently.

We're working with the Mysterio line.

But yes,

I don't care.

But because they're all just,

I can't keep track of, are the, is the LWO the babyfaces or the heels?

They're the babyfaces.

They have merch.

Well, but then the other is the La Phantasmagoria.

Legato that Del is Adele or De?

Adele Phantasma.

I think it's Del.

I don't know him.

I knew Del Wilkes.

Del Shannon?

Well, Del Shannon, and we'll run away from this topic because basically how this ended

was Zelina slapped Carmen Electra in the face and all the guys got in a big fight and the babyfaces won the fight.

And then I swear to you, Bianca and Naomi gave each other a pep talk in the back, jumping up and down while they were holding hands.

This goddamn pussy ass wrestling.

Then we had Tyler Bate and Pete Dunn against two of the Lucha Heels that just got beat up.

And then,

where have I heard the name?

Why have I heard the name?

Has he been at a wrestling show before?

Meek Mill is going to be at WrestleMania.

did he do something here before and i said who the is meek mill and you told me i don't remember talking to you about him ever he's a rapper he'll be performing some of his wonderful music at the uh

is it wrestlemania i forgot what you said wrestlemania

he's done something else he's done something else with him because i've heard that name and I don't know why I would have heard the name of a rapper unless he's done something with one of these wrestling companies.

Well, hold on.

Meek Mill.

Let's see if...

Pepper Mill's fucking cousin.

Meek Mill, let's see if he's been in the news for anything recently.

Sounds a very mousy fellow.

Meek, Meek, Meek.

Meek Mill.

One month ago, Meek Mill vehemently denies being gay after Diddy lawsuit rumors.

Wait, what?

That's from TMZ.

Wait a minute.

The Diddy was the Diddy.

Diddy was suing him for being gay or was he suing Diddy for being who was doing what to who?

You can't sue someone for, you know, who you are, but

who was gay and who was Diddy and the issue was that someone, we just talked about Diddy the other day, or as

some people started calling him now the diddler.

They talked about him the other day.

We had a day of Diddy the other day.

In his lawsuit,

one of his former producers is accusing him of a number of things and

I guess making Vince McMahon-style allegations

in the lawsuit about Diddy and other people,

male and female, being involved in well what has Meek Mill got to do with this?

Well according to this, there's a redacted name in the lawsuit and people were assuming it was him.

Oh, well now see that may not be him.

It may be unfair fucking just

online trollishness.

Apparently 50 Cent is involved and he started some of the rumors or he died or he at least has been having fun with these Meek Mill rumors on well you know his opinion isn't worth 50 cents, is it?

Well, no, I think it may be worth something.

He's feuding 50 cents opinion.

50 Cent.

No, 50 Cent is a feud going on right now with Puff Daddy.

That's like the main event feud right now.

Oh,

50 Cent is mad at Diddy.

This is like one of those wrestling feuds where the legends from two different periods come back and they're feuding with each other.

And it's going to be like the final match.

It's happening right now.

So Meek Mill.

Well, well, okay, go ahead.

Well, what else has he done?

Why have I known him?

Hold on.

Whoa, what were you going to say about these people who I don't know doing things that I don't care about?

Because there was a whole big thing in the New York Post, and it was the fascinating thing.

50 Cent is feuding with Puff Daddy.

50 Cent's baby mama, who he had a child with, is the woman being accused in the lawsuit as being one of Puffy's paid sex workers.

Whoa.

That he uses for himself and potentially other people.

So

there because then when that came out 50 cent went on instagram he's like she's a sex worker

is there and now he's going for full custody so this is a crazy it's been playing out in the papers it's been fascinating this is starting to get complicated is there a pie chart or some type of

there should be a graphic thing there should be a pay-per-view main event if these guys want to make a few bucks with this because i just want to do the thing like the bloodline chart so i can figure out who's saying what about who with all of these people

and put a picture up there so I'll recognize them.

So I can stay the fuck away from all of them, including apparently Meek Mill, who's going to be at WrestleMania one way or the other.

Yeah, I don't, he's a musician.

I don't know why.

I mean, we, well, here it has a bunch of criminal proceedings.

I don't know if any of these have gotten the news.

It has a bunch of criminal proceedings.

Well, 2005 to 2006, police brutality and first arrest.

When he was 18, he was walking to the corner store armed, and he was arrested for illegally possessing a

forearm.

A forearm.

Possessing a

firearm.

Because he had a metal plate inserted in it, and it was deadly.

And he was beaten up by the police because of the beating.

His lips and both eyes became swollen, and one of his braids was ripped out.

Jesus.

He was charged with a 10-year-old wait a minute.

Why was he taking a goddamn fucking gun down to the convenient food market or whatever?

Maybe they wouldn't sell him milk.

Now they sell him milk.

Milk milk.

Milk milk.

So he's had many brushes.

In 2008, drug and gun conviction.

2012 to 2016, several violations, incarceration and house arrest.

2017, St.

Louis and New York arrests, parole violation, and imprisonment.

2018, allegations of federal corruption.

2019, misdemeanor firearm charge, and free meek, which was a docuseries about him.

Did you say free meet?

He gave out free meat.

Free meek, a documentary.

Free meek.

Oh, free meek.

Then there were civil suits.

Also, there were other allegations.

What is this?

He was turned away from the cosmopolitan of Las Vegas

for racial discrimination.

They said there was an issue there.

So he's gotten into trouble with the law.

He seems, forget about WrestleMania.

He seems a prime candidate for the WWE Hall of Fame.

Good Lord.

So, yeah,

he'll be there, I guess, performing some of his better-known tunes.

You can name several off the top of your head, can't you, Brian?

You know what the problem is, though?

No matter who it is, if it's Meek Miller, just about anyone.

Other than like the national anthem or something to start the show,

I don't think I ever want music in the middle of a wrestling event.

There's no one even artist I've liked.

It's like not the time and place for me.

Well, I don't know if he's going to give a whole concert.

Maybe he's just going to wrap someone to the ring and then wrap it up and get the fuck out of there.

Remember the Oak Ridge Boys at a

Music City Showdown.

Well, yeah, because I had to sit through that.

Remember,

Bright and I had just left.

I was home.

Actually, that's the only pay-per-view during that five-year period that I got to watch from my own home.

And I had to sit through 20 minutes of the Oak Ridge Boys.

No one in that building wanted to hear the Oak Ridge Boys, and that's no indictment of them or their ability.

And they were in Nashville, but it wasn't the, no, it wasn't the place.

Glenn Goza.

I mean, you can go back and forth.

There's so many examples, just it never works.

No one wants to just see someone singing or rapping at the wrestling show.

They just want to see the wrestling.

Hey, at that Great American Bash in Philly, they loved Delbert McClinton, didn't they?

Delbert McClinton.

Anyway, speaking of loving people,

apparently we got one more segment here on SmackDown.

AJ Styles not loving L.A.

Knight.

You know, the whole thing where L.A.

Knight came to his house and attacked him.

And I swear to God, I've got a bunch of feedback on the Twitter machine and that also.

Corner, you're being too picky.

They said they missed what we were saying, many people, Brian, because we said, yes, it was pre-recorded.

They thought I was, I made a joke.

I said, now the fucking cops' body cam's not only feeding the city hall, it's feeding the Fox Network.

No, I know it wasn't live on the body cam.

Yes, they said it was a few days before and or the day before or whatever.

Point I was making was it was still shot incredibly well from all sources when it could have been maybe the same thing done, but just shot a little differently.

It was my bone of contention with it.

And people are like, oh, they didn't listen.

They said it was the day before or whatever.

But they are reacting now to this.

And again,

I appreciate they're making the effort and I see what they're trying to do.

And I hate to pick it apart, but you could see this coming a mile down the road.

A.J.

Styles gets in the ring, do a promo.

He's pissed that.

L.A.

Knight again

came to his house, his castle, and attacked him.

And the reason why why he didn't have him put in jail is so he can expose him as the under-talented piece of trash that he is.

And he had asked Aldous to make sure that L.A.

Knight was not here tonight, but he knows that he is.

So he basically A.J.

dares him to come out.

Come on out, L.A.

Knight, wherever I know you're here.

Come out and show yourself,

which doesn't happen.

And then AJ says, well, I bet it could be this cameraman.

And there's the handheld guy in the corner on the apron of the ring.

And you see his shot.

You see AJ reach out and smack the guy's hat off and snatch him.

And the camera goes sideways.

And then you see another shot.

You realize it's not L.A.

Knight.

It's some fucking puts cameraman.

But then, as the guy steps out of the ring, suddenly a guy in a hoodie and a face mask or whatever jumps the rail.

And there's a couple of security guys coming right over behind him.

And they grab him and restrain him.

And that's when AJ comes over and pulls the hood off, and it's some nobody that you've never seen before.

But the guy was

overreacting like he was freaking out on fucking LSD.

Like, there was no way that a human being would have what

his face, his eyes are bugging out, his darting back and forth, his fucking movements are peripatetic, and they're struggling trying and he's not really trying to get away and he's not trying to say anything he's just having a fucking spasm

and what would have happened if he had gotten the age a what was he planning on doing this well that's the thing it's it was this a plot of la nights or whatever but if so why was this guy acting like that why wasn't he saying so like please don't hit me i'm not la night or anything like that or ha ha ha i got you

Or what?

No, he acted like he's shocked

to be found out that he was was caught and he's no you caught me i didn't get away with whatever the fuck i'm trying to do he was acting like the cops had him cornered in an alley yes

they're gonna mow him down with the goddamn tommy guns

but i mean i don't know what the fuck was going on it's like they were shooting him with a cattle prod

so then They drag him out and now AJ's on the floor.

So he turns and keeps promoing

into the handheld camera on the floor while the handheld handheld camera has framed AJ and a random crew guy who just happens to be leaning on the announce desk.

And at that point, AJ's cutting the promo and the crew guy takes his hat off and he takes a wig off and he takes whatever.

And it's and then AJ turns and sees that shot on the video screen and turns around and LA Knight gets on him and gives him the yeah stomps and chases him out of the arena and then gets on a desk and cuts a promo.

And the people are still with LA Knight when he does something

and when he has a little spotlight like this,

it

AJ is the vessel now that we get our fix of LA Knight in.

But this was, could this have been a little more stagey, do you think?

That, well, what, how the

okay, him being there, he's in disguise, right?

I know he's in disguise.

So I'm going to just randomly snatch the cameraman.

Okay, maybe, but then whoop the fuck with this guy?

And he stays there.

And he knows now that people are out to get him, but he's just standing there while this random crew guy is five feet to his left.

And he doesn't, after he's been frisking everybody else and asking for their social security cards.

It just, it seemed, I'm glad L.A.

Knight cut a promo.

That was the highlight of that.

And beating AJ up was the highlight of this thing.

I I got a kick out of this part of it for the campiness.

Again, the guy who jumped the rail was the most ridiculous thing.

There's no explanation for any of his behavior or what was going on there.

And then LA Knight, it was

basic and cheesy, but the crowd reacted to everything as simple as it was.

Him taking off the hat.

He looked ridiculous in that wig, him taking off the wig.

The place was ready for it.

The place has been ready for him.

He's been

kind of standing in place for a little while just because of everything else happening.

But it's nice to see the fans are still really with him.

And this was a good segment.

And AJ is jacked.

You see the shape he's in?

Yes.

He's definitely been eating the good old-fashioned southern cooking down there in Georgia.

But that's,

I get AJ is so

good physically, and it's just with what we're hearing these days with all of these world-class promos with Rock and Roman and Heyman, and Cody, and fucking punk, and et cetera, et cetera, that's always been AJ's,

you know,

not drawback, but it's been the weakest part of his ensemble.

But

it finished strong.

I wish I could say the same thing for SmackDown.

And of course, then the thing with

Dakota and Bianca and Oscar and Carrie and Naomi and Jane was last.

Jade.

Yeah, it was all last.

And that was

SmackDown.

And I'm last, literally.

So

I know we've still got a couple more programs left to go, and I guess next week,

the SmackDown is going to be a SmackDown, and then they're going to have the Hall of Fame directly after it, but on the cock.

So we're going to have to be cognizant of that as well.

But where do we stand,

Brian, last on WrestleMania on the the lineup that they have promised us so far?

Do we have a little preview of what Titanic confrontations are going to come to a conclusion at the various two nights of the event?

Well, we have matches, but not necessarily a night assigned to everything just yet, because we're only a week or so out.

So, no reason to, well, they're sold out anyway.

Why tell people what they're going to see?

Well, the main event of night one will be the bloodline, the rock and Roman Reigns versus Cody Rhodes and Seth freaking Rollins.

If Rhodes and Rollins win, all members of the Bloodline will be barred from ringside during the undisputed title match on night two.

If Rock and Reigns win, the championship match on night two will be held under bloodline rules.

I am strongly leaning toward one of two scenarios because I think they want to end

night two with a bang, as big a bang as they can.

I mean, doesn't it have to be that some way or another

Cody and Seth lose on

Saturday night so that it is bloodline rules on Sunday so that Cody triumphs over all adversity,

assuming that's what's going to happen.

But there could also be the the thought that,

and depending on where they're going to go, this might be what they're thinking.

If Rock has gotten all this done by shooting his mouth off and has manipulated this situation where this big tag match has such a bearing on Roman versus Cody,

and then the Rock,

they lose that tag match, and Roman has to go in with a

legitimate one-on-match, one-on-one match with Cody and then loses.

That would be

some element of a wedge in between Rock and Roman's relationship to call for something else to happen.

But I don't think they can do that until we

probably want to try to get Cody and Rock at this point.

So I think

that the Heels win the tag team match, and I wouldn't be surprised if they don't beat Cody.

on Saturday night, but through

moving heaven and earth to get there somehow in a crooked fashion, so that Cody has to be in a position on Sunday where

maybe he gets some help from the friends to neutralize the outside the ring shenanigans and wins on his own, but he has to overcome as

one-sided a battle as possible.

What do you think?

My same thoughts, and that's what almost makes me think they'll try to do the opposite.

I think the Heels have to win night one.

I think it may even be the rock pin and Cody, if that's where we're going down the road.

And then night two, it isn't just Cody beating Roman, it's Cody overcoming the odds, bloodline rules.

You also get all the players involved.

But does The Rock make a key error on Sunday?

Well, I don't know about he makes a key error, but to me, that would be the opportunity to do something where something happens and the split, the rift between The Rock.

and Roman.

Yeah.

Or maybe even just, you know, the entire bloodline in Roman.

Who knows?

I think it kind of happens there.

That is an opportunity to have Roman come out of that as a babyface.

Not to say that I would do that.

Well, he doesn't have to come.

It can be the start of him eventually

because they're not telling anything quick.

I don't think you're going to see Snap goes the switch.

They're not rushing anything.

But it could be the start of

Roman realizing that The Rock may be more of a liability than an asset to him.

Well, you know, Jim, as we're talking about all this, let me just say it.

So for night two, one of the two main events already announced, to be determined stipulation for the undisputed WWE Heavyweight Championship, Roman Reigns versus Cody Rhodes.

And that's,

I think at this point, if we don't finish the story, is the...

The time is here to finish the story.

We cannot keep writing extra chapters indefinitely forever.

I think he's got to win this, but I think that if they do it in any one of several ways that we've suggested, with this amount of major players involved in this thing,

they can still come out with more

money matches

out of this if Cody wins than they have going into it, even yet.

And I don't think it hurts Roman or anybody else.

The time has come, though.

I firmly believe that.

I said that last year,

and I was wrong, given on

how things have,

you know, expanded and coalesced, or was it two years ago, whatever the fuck it was?

It was last year.

It just went very slowly.

Last year, it just went very slowly.

But really, they've done a wonderful job of not only prolonging it, but building it.

But you can't.

You can't go on forever.

And I think people,

at some point, they're going to lose faith fairly soon if he doesn't get there.

So that would be my thought there.

We still have one more round of episodes for Brandy to do a run in and really make this over the top great, but we'll see what happens.

Jim, the other main event announced for night two

for the World Heavyweight Championship, the champion Seth Franklin Rollins versus Drew McIntyre.

Boy,

they're constantly talking about that Drew still has not signed a new contract

with the WWE, and he's worth so much more now than he was six months ago.

Maybe he realized he had this in him and,

you know, prolonged signing a contract until he could get a chance to do this.

But I think,

I mean,

you can say, well, if he doesn't win the belt,

he could even further

the idea that he's getting screwed around and blah, blah, blah.

He can have a gripe in his own mind that furthers his prickish quasi-heelishness or whatever.

But also, I think it might not hurt him to get some credibility.

I think if he beats fucking Seth for that, because Seth is damaged from the previous night,

and now Drew has that for whenever Punk returns or rematches with Seth or

all these other matches they've got going on.

And it would give Drew some

a little further boost up the top of the card, right?

So I wouldn't mind seeing it.

And also,

I'm sorry, but it's not like Seth Rollins is Lou These at this point, where he's going to establish the NWA title as the real world title around the globe.

It's the secondary title because the other one's in the main event.

But

still,

it would help if three or four major names have this belt

to establish it as something that has little validity to it.

And I think maybe because of the way things have been playing out on TV the last couple of months, it may be time for Drew McIntyre.

It may be one of those times where you don't want the belt to necessarily elevate someone, but it's just kind of feels right right now.

And it wouldn't hurt Rollins because it's not helping Rollins.

Well, especially Rollins would have an out if he has come to the aid of Cody and the people.

And as a a result, gets a bad fucking shoulder that gets capitalized on the night after, and he loses something personally fighting a fight that's bigger than any one of us, as he said.

And we don't know how long we are away from CM Punk's return, and they've teased stuff with Punk and Drew and Punk and Seth.

Well, that's right.

Punk is going to be doing the commentary.

But the idea of Punk coming back and having to go for the title against Drew,

I think the backstory of that is better than Punk going after the title held by Seth.

Yeah, because

people are liking Punk and they like Seth and they're, you know, they're prickly with Drew right now, so it would make sense with Punk and with Drew with the t-shirt and everything.

So,

you know, a thing with...

But at the same time, you could still keep both things going because if some way or another, Seth has an opportunity to blame fucking Punk if he loses to Drew.

I don't know.

We'll see what happens, but

I would like to see Drew come out of it with the belt.

The following matches have no night assigned as of this moment as we are recording.

For the WWE Women's Championship, the champion EO Sky versus Bayley.

Okay.

It's going to be a long two nights.

This will probably be a really good match.

It'll be a good match.

On the big side.

Do you think they put the belt on Bailey the way they've been using her on TV?

i again i would because at least bayley can talk i'm i'm you know i've always been a fan of bayley's i said maybe bayley ought to be the the the

player coach manager jj dillon four horseman leader type for a group of the younger girls at some point

i i'm i'm not

i know you like damage control they're all just small and they're running around and yeah

they're good but that doesn't mean i think eo should win i think it may be time to put the belt on bayley after everything that's happened or getting kicked out of damage control makes sense she can talk the next match shim for the women's world championship wait a minute i thought hold on you just said that match was for the women's world championship no that match was for the wwe women's championship

okay for the women's world championship the champion rhea ripley versus Becky Lynch.

I will be watching that with bated breath and drool and slobber coming onto my

big toes.

I don't want to hear you about it coming on your big toes, you pervert.

Well, I'm dripping in a fashion, dribbling, if you will.

No, I won't.

Well,

you might.

It just depends on.

It just depends on the whole way the thing comes together.

But yeah, I'm going to be watching that.

I think it's going to be a Titanic confrontation.

It is not time for Rhea to be beaten or to lose that belt belt yet and i don't think that's going to happen here it better not it better not happen it's it's not time yet and i think becky's another one whose contract is about to come up well then then in that case it might be time for her to put rhea over and go away and learn a new hold jim for the intercontinental championship the champion gunther versus sami zane

And I'm still pissed we don't get Gunther and Brock Lesnar.

Gunther ain't going to get beat by Sammy at this point in time, but it will be an excellent match because Sammy, that's his strong point, is selling for a bigger, vicious guy.

And Gunther's shit is letter perfect all the way around.

So that will probably,

because

it's men, it's a single match, and two guys who know what they're doing in the ring, it'll probably be.

One of my favorite matches of the night or of the weekend, probably only secondary to to the stuff with Cody and the bloodline.

You know, if they're not going to do the Brock match, and maybe should have done something with Chad Gable because that was working.

That got Chad Gable thought of as more serious than ever before on the main costume.

And it would be a better match.

It'd probably be a little bit different than what they're going to have.

But

I just, you know, that Brock thing could have been.

And by the way, I'm pretty goddamn sure that Brock would have put him over because it's not like they were going to put the Intercontinental title on Brock.

And that would, if they put Gunther in a non-title match, that would have blown that deal.

So that could have been a big deal for Gunther if he could add to the resume that he beat Brock Lesnar at WrestleMania.

But Drat, another thing to be mad at Vince McMahon about.

Well, Jim, in a six-pack tag team ladder match.

Oh, boy.

For the undisputed WWE tag team.

And

you see that?

They're treading on the trademark.

They're infringing on the title of poor old Brad Beluchian's book, Six Pack.

He should have sponsored the match, actually.

Go the other way.

It would have been a perfect tie-in.

They should have sponsored the book.

Let them spend some money.

Well, in this match, he's just a hard-working author.

The champions, the Judgment Day, Finn Balor and Damian Priest, versus DIY, Gargano and Champa,

versus Awesome Truth, Ms.

and R-Truth, versus New Day, Kofi and Xavier,

versus A-Town Down Under,

Theory and Waller, versus the New Catch Republic,

Dunn and Bait,

Dunn, and Bradstreet.

I don't know.

I don't care.

I don't think there's enough money to make me watch this thing.

It's 12 fucking guys with umpteen ladders doing ridiculous shit over and over in what's going to have to be a phony way because it's not possible to work shit like that without just cooperating with each other.

So, and those are their tag teams.

That's why I always say it's a sad division.

That's the tag team division.

That's sad.

Sad.

Let's cross our fingers.

Nobody gets hurt on that match, and we'll ignore it happen.

Jim, in a singles match, L.A.

Knight versus AJ Styles.

The Battle of the Initials.

Can you?

It's like a spelling beast.

I think L.A.

Knight has to win this.

I assume

that this will.

Is this going to be a longer-length program, or was this just something to give those guys something to do for Mania?

I wouldn't think they'd try to prolong too much of this, would they?

If they will, or if they want to, then AJ may win.

I don't know if I would beat L.A.

Knight at WrestleMania right now,

regardless of, you know,

look at how reverse the roles are.

The heel is saying that the baby face, the babyface went to the heels' house to beat him up,

and then the babyface got in disguise to attack the heel a second time.

The heel has done nothing.

Yeah.

What has AJ done to upset LA Knight?

That's what I'm saying.

I think LA Knight just needs to win.

Jim in another one-on-one match, Jay Uso versus Jimmy Uso.

Yeah, we talked about this as we talk about, we don't really get excited for the Uso matches.

We got excited for what they were doing as part of this ongoing bloodline story and the people in their periphery.

And

I want to like them.

Jay's hot dogging with the fucking,

you know, the open-handed punches that people can see through a mile away and trying to be the rock, but coming off more like smooth Johnny Spade for all you OVW fans out there.

And Jimmy is kind of like he's the guy that

is the flunky that's not solo or Roman.

And it's bruh.

I hope they don't, because they're brothers and they want to be remembered, come up with a bunch of goofy stunts that will

thrill the crowd and take up all the fucking stunts so that when other people do them, it means nothing.

But we'll probably get some stunts, won't we, with these two?

Who knows what it'll be?

Probably Solo being involved.

I think you could probably bet on that.

In a triple threat match for the United States Championship,

Logan Paul, the champion, versus Randy Orton versus Kevin Owens.

You know,

this may be, it has

potential to be a triple threat match I might actually like.

I don't know.

We'll see what Owens is in it, but Randy's in it.

And Logan Paul is golden with me right now.

It's hard for any of these to make sense,

but at the same time, like I said, Randy Orton will probably insist most anything he's involved with makes sense.

Paul's been tremendous.

I'd rather see him in a single match against either one of them, but I'll take this.

And I think, again, Logan Paul retains.

But

does this cause problems with Owens and Orton?

Maybe

there's something there, or maybe

it won't.

But I think Logan Paul is not going to lose the belt to either one of these two guys at this point right now.

And he always has stooges at these big events that jump out of the crowd and they're.

known by his fans, but we don't know who they are, but it always happens at the big shows.

There you go.

He can have KRS4 do it.

But you're thinking of KRS1, but that's not who you're actually thinking of.

You're thinking of KSI.

Well,

what about CSI?

That's a show on CBS.

Okay, CBS-CSI can KRS-1 him.

All right, well, Jim.

A couple more matches, Mr.

10-4.

In a six-woman tag team match, Bianca Belair, Jade Cargill, and Naomi versus Damage Control comprised of Dakota Sky.

No, Dakota Kai, the other one's Sky, Dakota Kai, Asuka, and Kyrie Sane.

Now, what is Velvet Skye related to EO Sky at all?

Velvet Sky.

Which one's Velvet Sky?

Remember, she was in the Beautiful People with Angelina.

Oh, yeah.

I never really watched TNA during that period, but I know the name.

Yes, well, maybe

they might have been sisters.

Brothers from another mother works, but sisters from another mister, would that be the same thing?

Well, here's a question for you.

Do you think Jay goes into the pay-per-view and comes out of the pay-per-view as a babyface?

Yes, I do.

I believe, because

she ain't going to turn and join this group, right?

If she turned on anybody,

to help these flunkies out.

It's too soon.

It's too soon.

If she was going to have some kind of issue or angle with Bianca,

they would want to set up some type of relationship with them first if they were looking at a friend turning.

So I think this is a showcase with a bunch of girls that know what they're doing and are used to working with each other.

And

Jane's going to look good and probably get to pin or get the finish and pin someone.

And finally, Jim, as announced announced so far, card subject to change.

The LWO,

Rey Mysterio, and Dragon Lee versus Santos Escobar and Dirty Dominic Mysterio.

Hey.

That will probably be a really fun match.

It will be a fun match.

I'm going A on who I think might win it, is what I was doing.

It will be a fun match.

I don't know, truthfully.

It's been going on for a while.

Might it be just because it's WrestleMania?

If it's on the second night and we get a happy send us home, the Heels might win.

But if it's on the first night, maybe the Babyfaces will win.

That may be a candidate to open up one of these shows, I would think.

It would be a hot crowd or it would be a hot crowd, and that would be a match to give them where they could react to everything, have a good time.

But that is WrestleMania XL as of this moment.

Well, we can only hope that by the time they get to double XL,

some of these issues will be worked out.

I don't know what more there is to say about WrestleMania.

So

I got to be honest with you.

I don't know whether I'm going to watch it by traditional means, Brian.

I don't know whether I'm just going to watch the normal pay-per-view with the English language commentary that I like.

I might experiment because, you know, with the Express VPN,

you can see anything you want to that's on the internet and the streaming around the world, regardless of whether you're supposed to see it or not, because you're in the wrong geographical location.

You smarten me up to this, Brian.

You can just you can be transported anywhere.

That's not exactly how I said it, but if you are, let's say, in America and you want to see the great British sewing bee that only aired in England and is only available on British streaming services, this is a way you could check out that kind of programming.

WWE network all over the world being shut down.

What are you going to do?

Who are you going to call?

Express VPN.

Yes, them.

Yes, and they're going to reroute you through Bolivia.

That still gets the network because they still have mule transportation down there on a commercial basis.

You got way behind.

No, you don't know anything about what's going on in Bolivia, and there's no guarantees of a specific company.

There's no guarantees that you can get a specific mule there, but if you reserve a mule, they'll give you the biggest, best mule they've got.

It just, but nevertheless, and I'll tell you something, if you want to watch WrestleMania the hard way, like I do, watch it through ExpressVPN and you can get the Saudi Arabian announce team.

Fubar Makafakalube and Slapco Fud.

Just tell them you're in one of the Arabias.

Let ExpressVPN route you through the Casbah.

Is that what you're going to do, Brian?

You like FUBAR and Slapco.

And I rock the Casbah regularly.

I don't know.

I don't think I'm going to want to listen to a commentary I can't understand, although it is Michael Wells.

So every now and then.

That's pretty much what we're doing already.

But, folks,

is there a British commentary team that you can get access to?

Well, they need an English commentary team is what they need.

Who's their English commentary team?

We got an American one, but we don't have one that speaks English.

But besides all of those programs also, Brian, ExpressVPN, our friends over there, you know,

they're the ones that warned us about the menace of people in the walls.

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Metaphorically, none of this is going to actually literally happen to anyone in the real world.

They're going to jump right into your computer and then the lifeblood of the veins of your computer, they're going to suck out your personal information, Brian.

They're going to suck it out like Marshall Dylan's sucking out rattlesnake venom on Festus after a long night on the trail.

Metaphorically speaking.

Metaphorically speaking.

And then these smart 12-year-olds, that's what they're doing now.

These fucking juvenile delinquents, they're not going to,

well, they're not even going to junior high school anymore.

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And that's what's become of the parents not watching these kids these days.

All these little goddamn crumb snatching rug rats are out there with this cheap hardware that they've got these days.

And that's what they need, just cheap hardware and a smart 12-year-old, and you're fucking hacked.

Your whole financial empire is coming falling down around your ears as a result of a juvenile delinquent.

What?

Yes.

Yes, what?

Yes, what I said.

It says right here, all that somebody needs to hack you is cheap hardware and a smart 12-year-old can do it.

So your entire financial empire out there, ladies and gentlemen, is in the hands of a juvenile delinquent in a seventh grade with some cheap hardware.

I don't know whether it be files and hammers, saws, augers.

Maybe a rolling pin, whatever cheap hardware he can pick up, he's hacking you with.

And, you know, they're selling you for only $1,000 a person on the dark web.

They'll sell your info for $1,000.

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Ruin your life rate.

You ought to start bidding.

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So don't try to have to deal with these hackers because also they're only in cash.

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I don't know what you're saying about any of this.

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Well, you got to tell, you don't want to just say if you need a VPN service, who knows what the fuck a VPN service is?

Well, what I don't want to say is any of the things you've been saying.

You're saying all sorts of quails.

Did you know?

No, it would take a hacker with a supercomputer over a billion years to get past Express VPN's encryption.

Can you imagine?

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Yeah.

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And you know, the reason why that it's the 12-year-olds are the worst ones is because you would expect an adult.

You would suspect an adult, but

a little smart, little pie-faced kid there with freckles.

You don't expect them to be these criminal masterminds.

Well, fuck these kids.

They need to go to the delinquent home.

And ExpressVPN is going to put them there.

But you know, Brian, what you can watch on basic cable right here in the good old United States of America, and that's the biography episodes or series that they've been doing over on the AEW network, as you call it, the AE network.

You did too.

It's well, I've done it in the past, but now I'm making mockery of you because it makes me feel better about myself as a person.

But this past week was on the British Bulldog, and I enjoyed this because I liked Davy and I spent more time around him than I have most of the subjects of the season.

So I had a fond, fond spot in my heart for Davey.

And I think Sean Michaels, believe it or not, summed it up best in one of the little sound bites right at the opening of the program.

He was unbelievably talented without even trying.

And that was the theme of a lot of the program.

He was a big kid, and we've talked, he didn't take anything seriously.

And he was always laughing, always joking.

I wasn't even there.

It was Owen.

And I've told a story about when

Jack Lanza would just die laughing at him.

And he'd come and he'd say, fucking Davey.

Jack would go over and say, Davey, you got to do a promo.

And now bear in mind, the British Bulldog would have been a main event guy in the company for much of the previous fucking 10 years.

And he'd go, for what?

Like, if it's unheard of, I should have to do a promo.

For what?

And Jack would come over laughing like he's astonished.

He's got to do a fucking promo after after 10 years.

But anyway, it was good to see Georgia, his daughter, and Harry, his son, and Diana.

Jesus Christ, she hasn't changed.

She hasn't aged a day in however many years.

She still looks good.

She is one person

that I don't look better than these days.

Hey, based on your expertise,

Because I've never

had anyone answer this, is it a Calgary accent or is it a heart family accent?

It's a heart family accent

because they

you can close your eyes and I mean, Stu had not only the heart accent, but a distinctive way of speaking.

But with a lot of the

brothers or the daughters or the sisters of the mamas or whatever, and the papas, you can close your eyes and not really know which one is speaking and it's hard to pick out.

But

I mean, Canadian people and Calgary people do have accents, but this is the Hart family.

They all have

a similar audible trait in their voice.

I don't know.

But anyway,

I like the old footage that they found.

There's a bunch out there.

I mean, because

it seems like in England, because that was network television, they saved a lot of that 70s stuff.

Because I,

not,

oh, God, 10 or 15 years ago now, a guy sent me a bunch of early Dynamite and Davey Boy from England.

And of course, Dynamite was,

you know, the Dynamite kid because he was 15 or 16 years old.

And then a couple of years later, Davey Boy turns pro when he's 15 and he's young David.

They had a, you know, British tradition over there with that kind of thing.

But they and they moved along fairly quickly.

We weren't going to get a giant world of sport retrospective here, but there was some nice footage of them when they were skinny as rails, both of them, Dynamite and Davey in Calgary.

And that was Norman Frederick Charles, the royal kangaroo that

Dynamite was working with with the beard and the

multicolored.

He still had the same multicolored tights like 10 years later when he came to Georgia.

And that's what,

I mean, Brett and Diana and everybody talked about Dynamite ribbing Davey because Davey was his younger cousin.

Davey looked up to him.

Dynamite was in the business first.

When he comes, he gets him in Calgary.

He comes to live with him.

But he's doing the shit where he's feeding him the X-Lax, you know, chocolate chip cookies and he got him into steroids or pills or everything else probably that he'd ever gotten into.

And finally, Brett had to take Davey Boy away from Dynamite's house and move him in with him to protect him.

And I've heard that from, because a lot of the guys, Danny Davis and Wayne Ferris, all a lot of guys from Tennessee at one point or another worked Calgary.

And they said that Dynamite,

you know, was a great talent in the ring, but goddamn it, he would be, he was trouble if you were his friend, and he was trouble if you were against him.

Because you don't want to be on the wrong side of him, but at the same point, the fucking shit he did to his friends for ribs was fucked up.

Yeah, that's the other thing, too, not to excuse any of it.

And a lot of this ribbing is just awful, but it's one thing pulling a prank on one of the other boys just to get a reaction from the locker room.

He put all that X-Lax in his fucking home.

It's just them sitting there by themselves.

Yeah, he's just doing it to him in his house.

Just like, ah, fuck Davey.

It'll be great.

And, you know, of course, the Diana and Davey boy fall in love, even though Diana's the

daughter of the promoter, and it seems to work out that way, especially in the Hart family, because everybody married wrestlers.

But

I guess, again, they're moving quickly.

They mentioned that the Bulldogs had gotten over big in Japan and then debuted in the WWF in 85.

And boy, when you look at the footage back to back in that short of a period of time, Brian, isn't it amazing from

Davey and Dynamite's natural frames?

And they were both athletic, obviously.

They could do all that shit regardless of what their bodybuilding status was.

But their natural frames, when they were kids, and then by the time they got to the WWF, they were both 75 pounds, 80 pounds easily.

Over, and

Davey was five fucking 5'10,

maybe.

And I think he was maybe an inch taller in Dynamite, but they were just huge.

I think he was a few inches taller than Dynamite, but the other thing is, forget about when they were teenagers, and that used to be a thing in the magazines when Davey Boy got real big in like 91.

Here's young David, and then here's what he looks like now.

That's when he's 15.

Look at the Bulldogs in like 82, and then look at them in 85.

Yeah, they're twice the dynamite's twice the size that he was.

And I mean, there's an element of growing up, but holy crap.

But anyway, so then, and help me out with this because you're not only the savant, but the 80s WWF expert.

They talked about the Dynamite kid's back injury in kind of vague terms, as back was bothering him.

And then they kind of said, out of loyalty, Davey Boy stuck with Dynamite and they went back to Calgary.

What was that first time they were out?

What the Bulldogs' departure?

Was that the thing with the Rougeaux?

Well, yeah, two different things.

At the beginning of 87, as house show footage, I think it was Orton and Morocco versus the Bulldogs.

Something simple like Dynamite running to the ropes and Morocco putting his knee to his back when he hits the rope caused him to go down.

It triggered whatever the back injury was.

That's why shortly after that, they lost the belts to the Hart Foundation.

And the story has always been, because the introduction's not on TV, that Dynamite was carried to the ring on Davey Boy's back for the title change.

And then he got attacked by the Hart Foundation.

And then in 88,

Kurt Hennig.

was ribbing, I think, the Bulldogs.

And then the Bulldogs thought it was the Rougeot.

No, no, or maybe it was the other way.

It was ripping the Rougeots and whatever it was.

Everything with the Bulldogs and the Rougeots happened.

And then they finished up Survivor Series 88.

Vince made them shake hands, made them work together, and then they finished up at the Survivor Series.

And then the poor Bulldogs went back to Calgary, and there was barely a Calgary to go back to.

And Dynamite is the one that,

you know, had committed the assault and with intent to commit mayhem,

and he wasn't going to go back, but he didn't want Davy to go back.

And Davey said,

I got to.

And

apparently, that was the straw that broke the camel's back.

And Dynamite never spoke to him again.

Well, you know, the other thing, too, is they never really had a chance in Calgary.

Not that they were going to light up business because it was kind of impossible at that time.

But it was gone at that point.

But they went back and they started doing some hot stuff.

Bulldog versus Bulldog.

That's a big thing.

Ed Whalen killed it.

Ed Whalen wouldn't allow some of the stuff to air on TV, I don't think.

So you couldn't even do the one thing you could do.

You couldn't do that.

You couldn't even do the one thing that you could do because you couldn't do that.

But what he could do was come back, a baby boy, to the WWF and get over big as a single, especially in England, which led to the

SummerSlam 92 Wembley Intercontinental title match and,

you know, the famous confrontation with Brett, and the family picking sides, and blah, blah, blah.

And they mentioned he had had a staph infection in his knee, and

you know, went into the match anyway.

But

again, that's the thing I was going to mention at the top of the program when Sean Michaels said, unbelievably talented without even trying.

There was the time if Davey

knew that it was

he could pick his spots, right?

If it was the Hart family, somebody that he could go with, Owen, Brett,

Sean,

if he was motivated because he knew that he could have a great match with these fucking guys, then he would turn it on.

But if it was,

I mean, like, remember the time where they sent the fucking headhunters, the two squat fellows that weighed 400 pounds apiece down to the ring.

And the first thing that Davey did was body slam one of them, killed the whole gimmick that they had.

And he and Owen would pop each other if they were in there with,

you know, somebody they weren't going to be able to get much out of, right?

And you would even see when Davey would look up at you every once in a while, if he was in there with somebody, if it was Mabel, you would just see the look on his face would say everything.

What the fuck am I doing here?

What the fuck is going on with these?

If they'd messed something up, he'd just give that look.

It's hard to

describe, but it fit Davey, right?

So

in this SummerSlam match and with Brett, I mean, he was fantastic.

Remember the run that I managed him in 94-95?

He had that incredible match with Brett on pay-per-view.

He had the two matches with Sean because the Beware of Dog went off the air because of the thunderstorm, the power outage in South Carolina.

I think it was 95-96, wasn't it?

Well, well, I'm okay.

I say I managed him in 94, 95 and into 96, right?

I think we started in 94.

Nevertheless, maybe it started in 95.

Point B, he had a great match with Brett.

He had a couple great matches with Sean.

And then that match with Diesel.

Remember the WWF title match at an in-your-house with fucking Diesel?

And they weren't stylistically a match.

Davey wasn't motivated because what's he going to do with fucking Nash?

And it just, it was brutal to the point where I went back afterwards and saw Vince.

I said, Vince, I'd just like to apologize.

I was involved in that.

And he's like, oh, Powell, what's the matter?

I said, it didn't set the standard for a fucking world title match, is what it didn't do.

But that's the thing.

But you could see also, this was 92 at that Wimbley match.

They're taking those bumps.

That ring was fucking concrete.

No wonder those guys were on pills or weren't taking bumps at house shows and everything before

the modern era.

It's like wrestling on a frying pan.

But anyway, then he got his suit of the SummerSlam 92 match happened.

He got in trouble with the drug test and he went to WCW for a year, but then he came back and

we had the run that I just talked about.

And then he joined the Hart Foundation because now it's him and Owen and Pillman's there and Brett.

And they started the,

you know, the Canada Hart Foundation faction versus DX and the Americans and blah, blah, blah.

And

the Canadian stampede, I was there that night, amazing atmosphere for the 10-man tag.

And that was something that, you know,

you could only have done that because of the long history of territory wrestling and the Hart family involvement

in a town like that.

There's very few places, maybe nowhere by that point, where

you could have gotten the same kind of response for the local territory wrestling fan.

The Von Ericks, it would have been past that point in Dallas, the Grahams, whatever.

But

they brought back nostalgia for one point in time there.

And then Montreal happens.

And that's Davey Boy

immediately quit because, I mean, he stood up for dynamite.

He stood up for everybody.

So he immediately quit.

And Owen, we've talked about this, pretty much didn't want to come back either, but they didn't want to lose all, Vince didn't want to lose all three of them.

And he knew Brett was going.

And Davey, unfortunately, because of his

various issues that he had and

the drug test, they knew out of the two of them between Davey and Owen, they didn't mind Davey going.

But they wanted to keep Owen because he didn't want to lose all three.

And that's when

they tore

I think, Owen's contract for $250,000 a year and gave him one for $400,000 a year guaranteed.

And that was 25 years ago.

So

anyway, we've covered that in previous programs.

But at that point, going back to WCW in that shape, in that state of mind under those conditions, one would have thought

that he'd be gold because Brett was there, the highest paid guy in the company.

But they botched Brett up from the start.

And he got hurt.

And

when

the one thing that I felt bad about when they showed a clip of Davey Boy in WCW to illustrate that, well, by that point, Davey wasn't at his best, it was against Steve Mongo McMichael.

And I'm not trying to speak ill of McMichael because he's sick right now, but.

Everything they showed Davey doing because he wasn't at his best could be attributed to McMichael's greenness in the profession at that point in time.

But even Bischoff said the biggest problem with their drug tests there weren't

crack or cocaine or heroin or whatever, it was prescription pills.

And then Davey Boy takes the bump on the trapdoor for the ultimate warrior.

They put a trapdoor in the goddamn ring.

And it was a stupid fucking idea.

And didn't tell everybody, apparently.

And he ended up on morphine.

And

remember his sister died at that point.

Remember, he had dedicated the time he was supposed to win,

what was it, the European title or something?

Against Sean.

They didn't tell that story in there.

Yeah, they sure didn't tell that.

He had dedicated the win to his sister who had some type of flesh-eating bacteria disease or something.

I can't remember what, because they had all kinds of sickness in their extended family with different points in time.

But they told him he was going to win it.

So he dedicated it to his sister who was dying.

And then Michaels wouldn't do the job, made him switch the finish.

He didn't win.

And then she died.

So anyway, then WCW fires him.

And,

you know, and then there we go.

And it just,

that's another example of, unfortunately,

you know, at that point in time, there were no more territories.

When you'd been to both the big companies, your choice then was the Indies.

I don't think Davey was,

you know, equipped

at that time with his personal issues or also just with, he had never done Indies before.

He had been with

pretty much WCW, the WWFE, or...

worked in Calgary and Japan for his whole career.

And I know he did some, but I don't think that would have been a long-lasting

deal for him.

But anyway,

and I can't remember now what year it was that he passed away, but he didn't outlive Owen, ironically enough, by

that long.

So, you know, it's another,

at least this one

was not so cross-pollinated with all the other shows that we've we've been seeing, where we had heard a lot of the stories as we've been talking about.

We'd seen a lot of the clips.

There was some new stuff in this because they hadn't concentrated on Davey as much as they had on a lot of the other guys.

So I enjoyed seeing some of the stuff, but it, again,

you know, it's just a shame that,

you know,

a lot of sadness, early

demises, and

substance abuse issues within a lot of these biographies, no matter who's producing them.

Your thoughts.

It's interesting, too, the story Bret Hart told about George Scott wanting the Bulldogs because Vince was asking about them.

That's Vince wanting someone just based purely off Japan.

And remember, they were part of the deal when Stu sold Calgary.

He had to give, Vince had to give jobs to the son-in-laws.

And then the Bulldogs left.

And then they left New Japan.

And then they signed with all Japan.

And that's why the beginning of 85, there are Japanese wrestling magazines with the front cover.

It almost looks like an ambush.

Like the photographer must have just jumped out and been like, we're here, pose.

Vince shaking hands with Giant Baba.

It was the negotiator on the Bulldogs.

Yeah.

And do you think that Vince even had

an inkling then that he wanted to get some kind of foothold, some kind of way more than maybe what he ever got in Japan?

And he was trying to stock up some of their favorites too?

I don't know, but I mean, Hogan was the biggest American star in New Japan, and he got Hogan.

The Bulldogs were a major, I mean, the biggest junior heavyweight team, and then they stopped being junior heavyweights.

He ended up with the Funks in 1985.

Got the Funks, Terry and Haas in 1985, 86.

And Jimmy Jack.

Don't forget Jimmy Jack Funk.

Jimmy?

Oh, Jimmy Jack.

When are you coming back?

All right.

Well, that was the Davey Boy Smith British Bulldog.

You weren't anxious to cut it off until I started singing.

Yeah.

Well, at least you admit it.

But you know, the thing is, but the calling card that Davey had through a lot of his life was his physical fitness.

Brian, he wasn't just somebody sitting back there eating a bucket of greasy fried chicken from the gas station.

He took care of his body.

He lifted the weights.

And what's more, he ate good chef-crafted meals.

I mean, that's all you'd do is you'd turn around and Yokozuda would have a bucket of chicken and I'd have a triple cheeseburger from Wendy's.

And there would be Davey Boy Smith eating a chef crafted meal.

They had crafted it right there for him.

Had it in a little

tin

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He carried it around.

The chef had crafted it that morning at the hotel.

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Well, they won't do that.

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Anyway, we're not near the end of the show because we got a lot of show left.

Because now, ladies and gentlemen, what we are going to do for the benefit of you who have been saying, God damn it,

you guys, you never talk about any classic wrestling anymore.

And you've started the 40 years ago Mid-South Wrestling Project and have left that in the dust.

So we're going to clear up both of those matters, pending matters here right now in one swell foop, because we sat down yesterday, Brian, you and I, and we recorded another look back at 40 years ago in 1984, my schedule in Mid-South Wrestling, so the folks can follow along day to day, see where we were traveling, what we were doing, and who we were wrestling, and how the business was starting to change, and the Midnight Express and Jim Cornette were starting to get over.

And we are going to play that conversation now for the folks who have been wanting the classic wrestling content.

This is the lights out portion of the program.

The fans can stay or leave.

This is not sanctioned.

And then after we hear this segment, we will be back for a closing thought or two.

Your thoughts on that?

I have no thoughts on that.

I'll share my other thoughts after these thoughts.

Let's go to this right now.

I think.

Okay, folks, we have long awaited a chance to do this segment.

So many things, Brian, have been going on in the world of wrestling between the Royal Rumble and today

that we have neglected to keep up with our 40 years ago history segment on Mid-South Wrestling and my schedule therein.

It's been on the podcast.

And as a matter of fact, on YouTube now are clips detailing much of my 1983 schedule.

Is that correct?

If they wanted to try to catch up here here to date so far?

That is correct.

If you want to catch up to date so far.

Well, then they should do that.

How do they find that if they want to go to the YouTube channel and find it?

Is it marked?

You can find that on the YouTube channel.

No.

You could go to the YouTube channel and search for Jim Cornette Mid-South Wrestling.

It'll obviously be one of the options that comes up.

It'll be a long-form video, and it'll be Jim Cornette talks about his first two weeks of January 1984 and the previous ones in 83, et cetera.

Well, and even they could type in his schedule for 1983 because we had Memphis and all that stuff.

You know what?

Schedule?

I think if you put Jim Cornett's schedule in.

Schedule.

Well, boy, see, it's almost like we planned for it to be this way.

But anyway, we've been behind.

We left off with January 15th, and we're already in the end of March.

So we thought we would take this opportunity and over some of the shows here over the next few weeks to try to catch up because things were about to get interesting.

in Mid-South Wrestling.

And if you go back and search those clips, you'll know exactly what I'm talking about.

But just to preface things with some new material that has not been offered brian we had been talking about how that the business in mid-south was down the gates were down the ticket sales and i don't want to give the impression that there was just shit talent that there was nobody the people were interested in it's honestly we think ernie Ladd had kind of hit the wall as booker because there was still some over talent and the people were still watching the television.

I mean, all the markets were getting huge ratings for Mid-South Wrestling on TV,

but they weren't coming out to the houses because they didn't like the matchups or the angles behind them or the storylines, as the kids would say these days.

Is that a fair statement to make?

It is.

It's also fair to say that although they had guys there with a lot of charisma and some really talented guys,

it became really heavy on top of big guys, not action guys,

but big guys, which Bill Watts kind of always went back to.

And, you know, and Ernie also had, you know, that, because there was few people bigger than Ernie Ladd, but it had gotten stale.

I wanted to give you just a couple of examples of the full lineups.

We've been talking about what the Midnight's been doing, but

in December in Houston, We mentioned that was a nice little house.

It was Nick Bockwinkle and Mr.

Wrestling 2 on top for the AWA title, and two got disqualified.

But then the mid-south matchups, you see Junkyard Dog versus Nikolai Volkov.

Dog, of course, was over, and Nikolai had a lot of heat at the time.

Hacksaw Duggan, who was over tremendously as a babyface at that point in time, beat Crusher Darceau on disqualification.

Barry Darceau was a big kid from Minnesota that had broken into that pipeline, and he became Crusher Darceau.

And then when he became the sympathizer to the evil Russian Nikolai Volkov, he became Crusher Khrushchev.

And

then most of the modern fans would know him as Bill Eady's partner in Demolition.

Which was he, Axe or I can't remember.

Smash.

Smash.

All right.

He was awesome in Demolition.

And, you know, and then he became a repo man.

And unfortunately.

But, you know, we've talked about him in the past.

But anyway, Duggan beat Darceau on disqualification.

Butch Reed beat Jose Litherio.

Butch had heat as a heel there.

Magnum TA beat Jim Nighthart.

As the Midnight Express, as I mentioned, beat Rick Roode and Lanny Pafo.

And also, guess who was on the card?

And I'd forgotten about this.

El Bracero beat Black Gordman by disqualification.

Wow.

Black Gordman, along with Goliath, one of the famous tag teams of the 70s.

Dr.

Des Steve Williams beat Larry Higgins and Tony Torres beat Carl Ferge.

And that was an example.

You know, there was a lot of matches, a lot of talent, but

they weren't necessarily biting on it at the houses.

And I'll give you one more example.

The January card in Oklahoma City, January the 8th, that we had mentioned in our previous segment, that we were on the card, again, beating Rick Roode and Joe Savoldi, preliminary match.

The whole card was Junkyard Dog and Magnum T.A.

beating Nikolai Volkov and Kamala,

who was on loan from Dallas at the time, world-class.

He had been there in 83, so he had been a big star in Mid-South previously.

Yes, but

that's the thing is they were, as you go back and look at some of these house show matchups and lineups, they were kind of random matches involving people that were over, but there wasn't any,

there wasn't a linear path path to these programs.

You see what I'm saying?

Was this kind of what they dreamt of, though, in terms of like Watts and Von Erich, if everything had worked out well and they had been able to stay as partners and get along with each other?

The idea that a guy becomes a big star here can go work for you and I can take him back whenever I need him.

That was tentatively what they were thinking.

But see, now here on the next match on this Oak City card, this was more

a benefit.

Chris Adams beat Jimmy Garvin.

That was a world-class TV was on in Oklahoma City and Tulsa, and it was right down the road.

So

the fans were aware of it.

That was a program from two guys that were on world-class wrestling.

Adams and Garvin was a big angle rivalry that was going on at the time.

So if you could bring that match in,

people, it's hot on TV, the other TV, but people are seeing it, right?

So that would benefit your card.

But

sometimes when you just brought back somebody that was over before, but put them in a random match and situation with the Mid-South guys, unless it fit the,

I'm bringing in this guy because of so-and-so, and then it had to be the right, you see what I'm saying.

And

I think when

Watts envisioned us going to Dallas, he wanted to be able to bring us back for the major events for the Superdome or the Oak City shows or whatever.

We may ended up making everything but the dome, Houston, Oak City, Tulsa.

But it was still against the Rock and Roll Express, who were still there, or

it probably would have developed if we'd had anything

really going on hot in Dallas, you know, with the Von Ericks.

He would have loved to have got Midnight Von Erickson, some kind of thing going on there.

And we also came back and worked with the Fantastics.

So it kind of, you know, anyway.

The Garvin Adams match, when was the one that you've talked about in the past where the fans were like harassing Precious?

Oh, she had to leave Ringside.

Laranja, Louisiana.

We might get there in this segment if

I can't remember the date off the top of my head, but it's coming up fairly shortly.

I can understand them being lent out for Oklahoma City.

How did they end up there?

Because it was a weekend.

They were in for the weekend, and that was a spot show on a Sunday afternoon, right?

I think we were like in Thibodeau or someplace that night.

And so Watts would he'd get his goddamn

money's worth and work out of you if he was paying you trans to come in.

You'd work every four shows in two days sometimes.

But anyway, nevertheless, the rest of this: Butch Reed beat Dr.

Death.

Doc was still a babyface.

They weren't really doing anything with him.

Wrestling 2 beat Nighthart, and Lanny Pafo beat Larry Higgins.

You know, there was, again, a lot of names, but not a lot going on on the house shows, is what I'm trying to say.

And so

that's where we, as I.

Larry Higgins is an example of the kind of guy in 83 they were trying to make happen.

And obviously a very different style and look to a wrestler than what would become popular in the territory in 84.

Well, and honestly,

Larry was a nice guy, but not anything that was going to stand out.

And actually, he was part of the trade.

Now, this is a point that we should make.

We've talked about how that Watts got myself in the midnight, the rock and roll, Bill Dundee as Booker, Terry Taylor, Buddy Landell,

you know, from Memphis in that trade, Jarrett got a number of guys that were still here because when we set this up during November and December of 83,

Jarrett had too many guys.

He just needed to get rid of guys.

And he had a weekly TV and the towns, the major towns in the territory were booked weekly.

Very weekly, as Dutch Mantel would say.

So

he could get rid of it.

He could just finish guys up in two weeks and you're done.

Go, be free.

Whereas as we've talked about when we set this up with December of 83 and January of 84, Watts had a different setup in the territory.

He taped two shows every two weeks.

Those shows took up to five more weeks to cycle around the territory.

He ran his major towns mostly every

two weeks, except for New Orleans, which was weekly.

And so he took much longer to finish guys up.

So some of the guys that were going to Memphis are still working here.

Rick Rood

would go in with a gimmick on top with Jim Nidhart.

And in Memphis by late January, early February,

they also got Messiah Ito, who was kind of an underneath heel in...

Mid-South, and Larry Higgins went for a while as Hacksaw Higgins.

Do you remember that?

I do.

Very,

very faintly, probably.

Maybe his immediate family does.

And I'm trying to think, did anybody else go?

And see, that's the thing is a lot of people are saying, well, goddamn.

Masao Ito.

That's what they're saying.

God damn, Masao Ito.

And others say, God damn, Jared got the

bad end of the stick.

And actually, he did.

I've said before that that's the only time I've ever seen anybody get the best of Jerry Jarrett in a deal was Watts getting all of us and for what he got.

But at the same time, he didn't need it because none of us were over

in his territory because of there was other guys who were more over.

But when we got a chance to go somewhere else and do something they hadn't seen, it worked for everybody.

And what Jarrett, he made a top guy out of Rick Roode and he used Nighthart very well, but he just wanted some underneath heels that he could cycle in later on for all of his homestead and babyfaces to beat, right?

Yeah, and the other thing, too, is this is when Mid-South is first now getting baby faces that have music videos.

Memphis had already had that.

They already had the fabulous one, so the rock and roll could never get past that, as you've said before.

Everyone was new to Mid-South, and everyone got over.

And it was the presentation in a lot of ways.

Well, and that's the thing.

You know,

not only had Mid-South never had, you know, the music videos for the rock and roll, they never really had music videos for, I mean, Magnum T.A.

I'm saying for anyone, yeah.

Terry Jackson.

Yeah, for anyone.

Yeah.

Yeah.

When Magnum had been there, but all of a sudden, when

they do the video where he's laying there in the leather jacket and the sexy chest, he's got the women hanging on him.

Then it looked like MTV.

And that was one thing.

Bill Watts was not watching MTV, nor was Ernie Ladd at that point.

But because

Jared had shown him, and that's

Joel Watts was editing the first fucking Mid-South videos for quite some time, and he learned from Randy West, Jerry Jarrett's son-in-law, who was doing the editing in Memphis.

He brought him up to specifically teach him how to make them music video deals.

And that's how they

got a younger audience than what they had had from the,

you know, because they were long on football players, but short on sex sex symbols in Louisiana at the time.

The problem is, I can't hear the song Freeze Frame without thinking of Terry Taylor.

Hey, at least they did that for him in Mid-South.

He got some days are diamonds, some days are stones in Tennessee.

Sometimes the hard times won't leave me alone.

That was the theme song for Teaming with Jock Rouge.

Anyway, so

what we should do now here,

what we're going to try to do is pick up again with where we left off, which was

we will start with Monday, January 16th, and go through some period of my schedule and date book to give you an idea of what was going on at the time and how Mid-South began

that turnaround, which we've talked about in the past in many

different programs, to starting to set set gate records on the new talent and the new booking philosophy.

So

have we covered this setup adequately at this point?

Oh, yeah, 15-minute setup.

I think we've got to cover it.

No, we covered a lot of ground.

And again, part one is up and the previous parts in 83 are up as well.

But here we are picking up where we left off last time.

Because if we go back to an arena, I'm not going to tell you all the same stories of, you know, that I've already told.

And such such as we went to New Orleans on Monday, January 16th.

And again, it's a 400-mile round trip from lovely Alexandria where we live, but the house was $24,000.

And that was, even though we were still in a preliminary match with Lanny Pafo and Joe Savoldi,

things are starting to see a little bit of life there because New Orleans had been a little blais

in the past.

And then

the following day,

Tuesday, January 17,

we went to Lake Charles.

And this is where we start,

as we mentioned, we had shot the angle,

what was it on

the TVs that we did back on January 4th, where we tarred and feathered Magnum TA because we'd been calling him chicken.

They wouldn't defend the tag team titles against us and did that angle.

And now that TV is starting to air in

more markets, so we start the run with Magnum and Wrestling 2 on January 17th.

And Lake Charles, I'm not sure.

I got to go back and look.

Is this the first time that we have been there?

I must mention, no, it's the second time.

So I must not mention various details about the building.

But

at this point, we are doing double disqualifications with 2 and TA most of the time

because

these, as I recall, are not even championship matches yet.

We won't get into those.

We're starting the program, and they didn't want to tip anybody's hand on who was going to be,

you know, doing what to who.

So we're just having wild brawls.

And we had one in Lake Charles in front of a stellar house of $5,200.

So this shit ain't sinking in yet in Lake Charles.

How many people would that be?

Oh, good Lord.

With a regular show at Lake Charles in those days,

$700,800.

And Lake Charles Civic Center was a decent sized place.

I would figure average tickets at about $7

back

in those days on a regular show.

And,

you know, Lake Charles, the Civic Center was not the traditional building that they had run run back in the 50s and 60s and early 70s for wrestling at Lake Charles.

It was a nice new building.

It was one of the ones that Watts was trying to change over to, because I've talked to you about a lot of these buildings had been inherited from the Leroy McGurk days and where they'd always run, the Shreveport Municipal Auditorium.

And with a lot of them came the local promoters in Baton Rouge or in Laranja or wherever.

And what Watts was trying to do was transition into all the newer buildings in the markets where he could use his own people, Jack Curtis, Grizzly Smith, whoever is in charge of most of the town.

And maybe he's got Scott Munz doing traveling and

getting a lot of these politically connected local promoters out of the goddamn mix that were taking a payoff to show up and tell you who to pay off in the proper places, right?

So Lake Charles was a nice new building and a dangerous as fuck market, as I think we mentioned last time, where they would try to shoot the heels in the eyes with Drano and the water guns, or they cut the free birds' tires when they showed up.

And then the police car that brought the freebirds, they cut their tires.

So, it was more dangerous when there was a small crowd because on the floor and in the dark, as you're going back from the ring, they can fucking stick and run, and they got plenty of room to get away.

So, it was a little dodgy, but nevertheless,

we go to Wednesday, January 18th, where we were in Shreveport for another TV taping.

We did a regular TV match.

We beat Roger Bond and Mike Jackson, but then we

Magnum and Wrestling 2 did a run-in

and getting a big fight.

And then

At

the next taping, we have a TV match against them.

And that's the one the Twitter clip has been making the rounds lately.

Where TA was about to hit the ropes, and I jumped up and pulled the top rope down.

He takes a bump over the top, and we whip fucking both of them with my belt and blah, blah, blah.

And they vow revenge.

So that ain't even going to show in most of the markets for the next two or three weeks.

We're running off the tarring and feathering at the house shows at this point.

But that was the way they always tried to keep something fresh without doing the same thing over and over

between the teams or the individuals that were in programs with each other.

So every time a TV showed,

something had been done to warm that angle up a little bit before you went to the houses that week.

Does that make sense?

I think so.

So then the following day, January 19th, and I haven't even been mentioning.

Oh, I forgot to mention we did interviews all morning on Wednesday.

So at least that was one of those days where we would go to Lake or to Shreveport.

We'd leave Shreveport or leave Alexandria at 6:30 in the morning, get to Shreveport at 9 o'clock, shoot promos for six hours, have two hours where we go and try to find something to eat, and then get to the Irish McNeill Boys Club about 5, 5:30,

do two hours of TV taping,

and then go home to Alexandria that night, which was two hours on Two-Lane Road, and get home about one in the morning.

So that was a challenging day to try to keep everything,

all the details down, right?

That's why Watts was anal about his paperwork.

And then we get to sleep late the next day on January 19th, because we don't have to get up until fucking,

oh, about noon so we can leave and drive 250 miles to Biloxi, Mississippi,

where we again face Magnum TA and Wrestling 2.

And in this one, I introduced the dreaded powder, not the Monsiles powder, but the baby powder, Johnson and Johnson.

And I threw powder in Wrestling 2's face and Dennis top-roped him, but the referee saw that and disqualified us and we got heat on Magnum.

until Dog came out to rescue the whole bunch of them in front of a stirring $12,000 house.

Is it a waste of the powder to use it on someone wearing a white mask?

No, because it's to blind someone and they could understand because it was visual.

They could see it.

It's not like,

you know, Coco Ware always used to say to Lawler, don't get juice on me.

I'm black.

They can't see it.

Throw powder.

But in this case, the powder flies through the air and is so visual that then he sells his eyes that they know he's been blinded.

Hopefully not for good.

Hopefully not.

But we're out in Biloxi, Biloxi, Mississippi.

Anyway, so we get back from Biloxi

about three o'clock in the morning, right?

So the next day on January 20th, we got to go to Jackson, Mississippi, which is 200 miles in the other fucking direction.

And we do the same fucking thing.

No, this time it's a double disqualification with two and TA,

$7,000 house.

And the reason for that, as I recall, is because for whatever reason, we couldn't get in the Jackson Coliseum.

the normal building that they were running at the fairgrounds, but they had an armory or building of some description at the fairgrounds.

And this thing, if it was $7,000, that meant there was probably about 1,000 people there.

And this place probably should seat about 800.

Because I remember at Play's Day, I said, oh my God, we're going to be killed.

There was no room around the ring.

There was no room to fucking get to the ring.

And what the fuck?

And they said, oh, just have a wild double disqualification.

I said, oh,

does whoever gets fucking stabbed get a bonus for tonight, right?

But we did it in a very controlled double disqualification and got the fuck out of there.

Do you think Watts would bonus you if he got stabbed?

Maybe if you gave Grizzly a sob story and turned your hospital bill in, you might get some bonus for some bogus thing a week or two down the road.

But I don't think he would have been particularly,

you know, fucking sympathetic.

Well, you got to watch out for these things.

But again, that was, it was a,

I don't know why they, well, I know why they ran it because they wanted the $7,000 and they couldn't get to Coliseum.

But God damn, that was one of those towns.

It's like, Jesus Christ, you've got the full card in here.

I don't see how the clearance could have been that

high.

But nevertheless, we would do business in Jackson very shortly.

This is still the building period.

And then we get back

from Jackson 200 miles, a lot of it two-lane, somewhere around two o'clock in the morning.

And the next day, on January 21st, we've got to go to Little Rock, Arkansas.

And we started coming to dread this trip because if anybody wants to look at a map,

it was 270 miles,

all two-lane state highway, no interstate whatsoever, directly north from Alexandria, Louisiana to Little Rock, Arkansas.

Through every little goddamn town, podunk fucking village,

out in fields with farmers, with trucks, with bales of hay driving 40 miles an hour.

It could easily be a six-hour drive during the day.

So we would have to leave at noon every time we went to Little Rock just to make sure that we got there and were in the locker room by 6.30.

And then it was a little bit better going back because who's driving those roads at four o'clock in the morning, but you still wouldn't get back until almost 5 a.m.

So it was a lovely fucking day.

And I actually did not get the house here, but I have to think it drew because we were Little Rock was very behind on the

tapes.

That was Little Rock was probably four or five weeks behind along with Oak City and Tulsa.

So we were still wrestling Joseph Oldie and George Weingeroff, but that was a $200 payoff.

So something drew.

drew.

I thought, oh, wait a minute.

As a matter of fact, here we go.

Texas Tornado.

I'm looking at two different books.

Texas Tornado tag match, Hacksaw Duggan and Junkyard Dog against Crusher Darso and Nikolai Volkov.

So that angle was starting to be

of some interest there with the folks.

So we got 200 bucks for a preliminary match.

And then, by the way, finished that week up, and then I'll open the floor to questions On January 22nd in Lafayette, Louisiana.

So after we drove

270 miles back to Alexandria on that Saturday night, got in at Sunday morning at 5 o'clock, Lafayette was 100 miles directly south the other way.

So while we didn't have to leave until about 4 o'clock in the day, we covered

almost 700 miles from one end of the territory to the other from one day to the next.

That's how the routing was.

And again,

for a preliminary match, beating Leaping Lanny and George Weingeroff that week,

we made $815

and worked one, two, well, worked all seven days, but counting the

interview session, that's eight times in seven days, and counting the TV taping,

that's eight matches in seven days.

You getting worried at all?

About money?

Well, no, because this is three times what I fucking left Tennessee on.

That's true.

That's true.

And at the same time, we're doing every time

when we're doing stuff on television and we go to the towns, we seem to be getting a reaction.

That's number one.

Number two,

there's enough towns in this in this territory here that even if Houston's only doing 40 grand, it's going to be a nice payoff if you're on top.

Because we're seeing the payoffs that we're getting for these preliminary matches, and we know he's taking care of us.

But at the same time, we're like, you know, fuck, as soon as we get up the card,

this will, and something's going on, this will improve.

So no, not yet is anybody panicking.

The only time I was panicking at this point

is when the people were starting to come after us because we're starting to get that.

And as a matter of fact, on Monday, January 23rd, this is here, this is a good example.

We're in New Orleans at the downtown municipal auditorium.

And I mentioned the previous week was $24,000.

That was

a pretty good house from what they'd done Christmas and previous.

Well, this is our first fucking angle match with TA and 2

in New Orleans.

And this was kind of kind of, this is one of the

big towns, Lake Charles, Biloxi.

Jackson was an off-building.

You know,

but New Orleans, they pay attention to.

Is something going to work in Mid-South?

It's going to work in New Orleans.

First time we're billed with TA and two, $41,000 house.

So again, that pretty much filled up the half of the downtown municipal auditorium that was generally opened up for the matches in those days.

And that's the match where they hit the ring smoking, and there's a big four-way.

And then, boom, we settle it down, but we cut two off and get the heat on him.

TA makes a big comeback.

I do the fucking deal where I pull the rope down and he takes the bump out over the top because they haven't seen it here in this town.

And then when Dennis and Bobby get on two

and start kicking the shit out of him,

TA, I think he may have already had some color, but he does

the old zombie walk.

You know what I'm talking about?

Where the, the, the baby, like cowboy Bob Ellis used to do this.

It was a fucking trademark of his.

When he was bleeding and he'd been abused by the fucking baby faces and taking a bad bump, he'd get up and he'd do a zombie walk through the fucking crowd where it's like he didn't know where he was.

And all the people are screaming, no, go back that way or whatever.

Well, T.A.

did a zombie walk back to the fucking locker room entrance and people thought, what the fuck is he leaving?

And a second later, you see him coming out with a goddamn giant board, and he's picked up a plank at the back door, and he hits the fucking ring and breaks the board over Bobby's head.

Boom, and the splinters fly.

And the goddamn people go out of their, and then fucking now Bobby's got color.

And, but at the same time, the referee calls for the disqualification.

They're disqualified because they came in with the fucking board.

And the people go go crazy and we fucking organize ourselves and get the fuck out of there but that's continued the goddamn issue right

so now we're starting to do things where we're getting a reaction and where people are starting to get hot at the finish and where they're coming up when we get our come up and so you can start to

kind of feel the reaction when things are catching on because you're going to these towns every week or two.

Does that make sense?

Yeah, it makes sense.

So then

on Tuesday, January 24th, we actually got a day off.

I don't know what the fuck happened.

I don't know why that we would not have been booked because it's not like he handed these out often, but we got one.

And then we had a wonderful double shot on January 25th where we had to do interviews in Shreveport at Channel 3 from 9 a.m.

to 3 p.m.

as normal every Wednesday.

And then we had to drive 180 miles over to Vicksburg, Mississippi,

which was

a wonderful place where both

you could see Gil Culkin and Jack Curtis and the whole Mississippi gang.

And this,

I don't remember exactly what the name of the building is, but you can tell they had wrestling there in the fucking 1950s.

It smelled old.

Right?

It was like being in an arena from the 40s.

And

that was obviously not one of the bigger towns.

That was a spot show deal that they ran every once in a while for

George Culkin and the family.

And we beat George Weingeroff and Lanny Poffo, who bless them are still finishing up.

Randy's already working.

in Memphis.

And I think Lanny was bopping back and forth at the time, but he still had to finish up some of these commitments in mid-South.

That's how long Watts had shit booked ahead.

And at that point, then we got to go back to Alexandria, which was 150 miles.

So we started, I started, the midnight didn't have to do interviews, but I started.

I left my house at 6:30 that morning, and I would have gotten back

at approximately 1:30 a.m.

the next day.

And then the following day, Brian, on January 26th, we're back in Shreveport for a house show at the auditorium.

So where we did interviews the previous day from 9 a.m.

to 3 p.m.

We're at the house show at 7.30 the following day.

But

we're against two and TA.

And remember, I said Shreveport had been on its ass.

It came up a bit, $15,100.

And we did the same thing as we did in New Orleans.

And this would become somewhat of a theme.

Bobby was getting a board broke over his fucking head three or four times a week

for a little while.

But again, Shreport came up because now $15,000 at average ticket prices in those days for an average show in Shreveport,

you're probably looking at 1,700, 1,800 people now.

So we're starting to see a little reaction, and we've been shooting the angle,

the angles on TV in Shreveport at the Irish McNeil.

So those people are clued into it.

And then we went back to Alexandria, which again, another 260-mile round trip.

So this is a decent week with the off day and Shreveport being close.

The following day, we go to Houston.

And this one

is where

we really know that something is going on

because

this was the first time that we almost got Paul Bosch to send us all home.

Because I've told you about

the time that he came and grabbed me by the shoulder when we had two upside down.

And I think we'll probably get to that.

That may be the next fucking

the next fucking segment we do.

Where he told you to go to the back?

Yes.

Right now?

Well,

this one, actually, we didn't get yelled at.

He yelled at Dundee.

Because,

okay, we go to Houston on January 27.

And by the way, we know it's a 500-mile fucking round trip from Alexandria, and it's completely different direction to Shreveport.

So we're going all over the fucking place.

But this is the match with goddamn 2-NTA off the angle, off television.

And here's the card, by the way, for Houston.

So you see where we are on a big show card.

An elimination match, Butch Reed and Crusher Darceau and Nikolai Volkov beat Junkyard Dog, Hacksaw Duggan, and Tito Santana.

Paul was still bringing in some of his own talent, and most of those guys appealed to the Hispanic audience in Houston.

They were over there.

So

Houston was still an amalgam of Mid-South and Paul Bosch's own customized market.

And actually, again, this was a program.

Jose Litherio beat Black Gordman,

and that was featured as well at the top.

And then it was our match with Wrestling 2 and Magnum TA.

And then Jim Nidhart beat Butch Reed by disqualification.

And there's a story here I'll get to in a second, but also Terry Taylor beat Tom Lentz.

Brian Adidas from Dallas beat Larry Higgins, and Messiah Ito beat John King.

Nidehart and Butch Reed had been

the tag team champions, right?

Just the end of 1983.

Right.

And then, and I can't remember what the angle was, but they switched Nidhart because Jarrett wanted Nidhart

to come to Memphis.

So the angle they did was they switched Nidhart babyface

on Butch Reed and had Butch ultimately beat him on the way out since Nidhart's going to Memphis and it helped Butch be a better heel, right?

Standard wrestling shit.

However, the wrinkle on this one was, and this is where we started to get insight into what Watts would do and what he done to protect the credibility of the business.

And in its own way, it's genius.

We've talked about that when you shot TV in Shreveport,

that it didn't make its entire way around the territory for a while, right?

And it would be delayed by up to four or five weeks in the Oklahoma City and Tulsa, et cetera.

But even in Houston, if you did something on the second tape, you did say on a Wednesday night in Shreveport, even though Houston was right along with New Orleans as being mostly up to date, it would still take 10 days, I think, for the first tape to air and 17 for the second tape to air, right?

Whatever.

So there was a period of time of a couple of weeks where Nighthart and Butch had turned on each other in Shreveport and had a big fight in front of God and everybody.

It had been taped.

It had happened in front of human beings.

Even though it had not been shown on TV in Houston yet,

Watts said, Well, he can't be in the same locker room

because

in Houston, you could see when the door opened

and you came into the arena, you could see that it was from a you're coming out of a goddamn locker room.

So the heels were on one side and the baby faces were on the other side.

So people would not assume they were in the same room together because we really weren't and couldn't be, couldn't get to each other, right?

And they could see that.

But the previous show

in Houston, before that Nidhart and Butch Reed had had this fucking match,

since it had happened already, but it hadn't aired in Houston, Nidhart could not be in the heel locker room with Butch Reed, even though they weren't wrestling against each other that night.

So they had Nidhart dressed in a fucking closet.

He dressed in a broom closet.

And when the goddamn bell rang,

here came his opponent, whoever the fuck it was from the locker room.

And here came Nighthart from a fucking janitor's closet at the side of the Sam Houston Coliseum.

He opened the door and came out of it.

And everybody,

but that's Watts did not.

He said they've turned on each other.

They fought.

They can't be in the same locker room.

And it made sense.

What if somebody was on vacation, right?

I digress, don't I?

No, but it's an interesting point because,

again, even if the fans know it's a work,

the whole idea is you're going there to suspend disbelief.

If you notice that, you can't do that.

If you notice if you just came out of the same room that other guy was in, why weren't they fighting?

The other guy was ready.

So it makes sense.

It's the kind of thing that should be done.

So, anyway, so we're in Houston on January 27th with that card I just gave.

And the reason why Paul Bosch got hot, because,

again,

poor Bobby had to take a fucking board over the head.

And yes, we're gimmicking these boards, ladies and gentlemen, but you

swing it full force and hope it's gimmicked properly is what happens.

So you know it's there.

It's not recommended you do this on a regular basis.

But Dundee had said,

you know, when Cornette, you throw the powder.

to blind them and you guys run off two and TA will chase you.

And

you've seen the the tapes many times where the heels in Memphis, where the babyface in Memphis would chase the heels back and they'd get in a fight outside the locker room door and they'd bash them into the wall and they'd throw him in the locker room, right?

Yeah.

Well, we had a little skirmish like that.

And Paul Bosch went out of his mind because they never had done that before ever in Houston.

They'd never had a fight in the back of the building because even though there was a, to the naked eye, an open area behind ringside seating, well, well, look at all this room we got.

When all those fucking people saw goddamn guys fighting in the back for the first time ever, that room closed up quick.

And there were people fucking, they were holding on to the rail over the at the end of the Coliseum.

The general admission seats had a rail in front of them, obviously.

And then about 10 or 15 feet down was the floor.

And, you know, they drove the trucks for the tractor pulls and things.

They were getting over the rail and hanging and dropping to get closer to the fucking fight.

And it was chaos.

And

Paul Bosch came back and ranted fucking Dundee out for that.

So this isn't Memphis.

We can't do that here.

We'll have a riot.

But we had a $51,000 house and we made 500 bucks apiece that night.

And if you will recall that

that,

what was that December house?

It was like 30 something grand with Bockwinkle and Dog on top.

So we knew we had something going on here.

These angles are starting to click.

Not only that, but with Nikolai and Darso

more focused together,

because they were going to draw some money with the rock and roll first, also.

That was their first program, get the rock and roll over.

Anyway,

so that was

a wonderful fucking, you know, feeling that we can cause that much chaos, especially since none of us was stabbed or beamed in the head with a beer bottle.

Man, Dad, that was the, Houston had that atmosphere, boy.

It didn't take much because they had been,

it had been in a ways protected from a lot of horseshit that shouldn't happen.

But at the same time, they had seen such great talent that they were discriminating.

But when they got into something,

they went whole hog.

If there's a modern correlation to that, maybe.

Anyway, January 28th, guess where we were, Brian?

Our hometown, Alexandria, Louisiana.

Still wrestling George Weingeroff and Joseph Oldie.

Alexandria, I think, was one of the last fucking places in the middle of the state to get the fucking tape.

So you drove home in the middle of the night, slept at home?

No,

we did not.

We were in Alexandria, Louisiana.

The building was approximately nine miles away from where I lived.

We did not get to sleep at home that night.

Do you know why?

Why?

We had to leave for the town the next day.

The next day we were in Oklahoma City.

And the fucking, I've told you that the deal was when you flew, you had to buy your own plane ticket and it cost at least 250 bucks a piece to fly out of Alexandria, which we'll get to the story later on when we ended up doing it, but it cost $250 a piece.

And

this is where we, again, we were only going to do preliminary matches in these towns.

And Watts would give you $125 travel allowance apiece to find your own way to Oak City.

So if you drove, you would actually make a little profit if you had three guys in a car.

But if you flew, you'd immediately lose $125 plus whatever your your hotel cost.

So we just got there from Memphis.

We said, fuck that, right?

So we left after the show in Alexandria and drove the 550 miles to Oklahoma City, Oklahoma.

Wow.

And that way we could check in on a new day at the hotel.

They used to let you do that.

I don't think they do anymore, but at like days ends or.

you know, the roadside hotel chains of the day.

Check in on a new day?

Check in on a new day was wrestler lingo, baby.

If you got to a town at like 4.35 o'clock, just dick around till 6 o'clock.

If you check in after 6 o'clock, they'll check you in on a new day.

Because now a lot of times if you checked in at 3 or 4 o'clock, they'd want you to check out at 12, right?

But if you check in on a new goddamn day,

Well, then you, you know, you get that guy.

So you got a room you can play with.

But anyway,

we didn't have time to anyway, though.

I spent $24 on the motel.

I think that was the La Quinta in Oklahoma City that gave us a rate back in those days.

The gas for the trip cost more than the hotel.

The gas was $28.

Nevertheless,

on Sunday, January 29th, we were in Oklahoma City against Lanny Paffo and George Weingeroff,

but the house was $61,000 and the show was 3 o'clock in the afternoon.

And

we

did the preliminary match.

That's the only time we did a preliminary match here, but that's the only time that you were allowed to leave early.

Watts wanted everybody to stay till the show was over with, not only because that was professional.

And if you were on the undercard, you needed to watch the main events because you'd learn something.

And also the undercard heels needed to be there to help the top heels fight their way back.

But you could leave early on Oak City on the Sunday afternoons because you had to go to Tulsa that night.

So as the matches would be over,

what they would, for the guys that flew, they would have vans, one for the babyfaces and one for the heels.

And Watts had, I don't know who this guy was that drove the heel van, but he was some local stooge.

But this guy, if you flew and you didn't have a car,

that van was going as soon as the show was over.

If you had a car, then you could leave and go because you might want to actually eat in between.

Because this motherfucker driving a van, and we've experienced it a couple of times, he was only going to drive 55.

That was the speed limit between Oak City and Tulsa in those days.

What was it?

The Indian Nation Turnpike or whatever the fuck it was.

And he wouldn't go three miles over 55 because he'd been told not to get a speeding ticket.

And Dr.

Death couldn't bear down on him and force him to do so.

And you got to stop at the love store, so you got deli sandwiches and or fucking microwave shit.

But if you had your own car and you could get out early enough, you could actually sit down and eat somewhere.

Because think about this.

We had fucking lunch at our house.

After Alexandria, we got fast food on the way to Oklahoma City.

And now we've worked Oklahoma City.

If we got something to eat, it was at the goddamn hotel with fucking powdered eggs.

And now we've worked once, and on the way to Tulsa, we might want something to eat besides a fucking sandwich from Love Store.

So then we would go then, it's 120 miles, Oak City to Tulsa, and the show would be 7:30 that night.

And we'd do that.

And then

it was somewhere between 520 and 540 miles

from Tulsa to Alexandria.

So if we were on

even middle of the card and could leave by 8.30, 9 o'clock, we were probably not going to be back.

And this wasn't all interstate now.

You had to go through some wilds of Louisiana and a bit of wilds of Oklahoma.

So we still wouldn't be in until daylight, somewhere around five in the morning.

but

things are looking up brian

because that week even though we did hold on let me count this up 550

650 11 12

there's 16 and 19 23

oh hold on there's 26 even though we did about 2900 miles that week Our check was up to $1,870 because now we're starting to be in the main events with these,

with 2 and TA in some of these towns that are starting to dribble back to life.

And for those of you who missed some of the previous segments, any dollar figure that we talk about

in the year 1984 is equal to $3 in today's money, as they say.

So that was, what's 1,870 times three?

That was the equivalent of making over five grand that week,

and we had Tuesday off.

I I just come from Memphis the fucking previous month making $200 a week if they'd book me.

I'm not going to complain about eating frozen fucking chicken nuggets in the back seat of the car in the middle of the night, right?

Well, you bring up the Memphis salaries.

Obviously, Lawler was making some really good money and he owned a piece of the company, but other than Lawler and whoever was working with him in the main event, if them,

Were you making more money than everyone else on those cards?

Was I making more money here in Mid-South than anybody in Memphis?

Yes.

Yeah, not just you, not just what you were making in Memphis, but what the wrestlers were making.

Now, wait a minute.

Now you've confused me.

Not yet.

No, that's what, yes, that's what I'm saying is nobody besides Lawler.

Well, wait, Dundee.

Well, no, Dundee's with us.

Okay.

Well, I was.

I wanted to make sure before I made a blanket statement, nobody in the Memphis territory besides Lawler made $1,800 that week or recently in a week at that point in time.

So yeah, so this was, we're like, okay, now we see what's going on.

Now we see what's going on.

And, you know, but again, this,

the fucking schedule was ridiculous, but it hadn't hit us yet.

that we would be doing it for an entire year and also,

you know,

we're the last thing from tired of it yet, because look at these fucking checks.

I had not seen a four-digit weekly check in the business yet.

And all of a sudden, it's like, and with days off and we're doing spot shows, right?

And it's still like that.

So I'm saying, what the fuck?

We got something going on here.

And you can feel the people coming.

And I don't, I don't want somebody to clip that and use it in the wrong fashion.

But, And I'll give you an example before we move on to the following week, but January 29th, the Tulsa card, right?

Which is what

was probably the same thing in Oak City.

I don't have that in front of me, but between the two towns,

they did $92,000, 61 in Oak City and 31 in Tulsa.

So even with us still in prelims, we made...

$550 plus the $125 trans allowance that weekend.

And we're looking and said, okay, if we're making this when we're on top like we were in New Orleans last Monday,

hello, my baby.

Hello, my honey.

But in Tulsa,

the card, again, they had Chris Adams and Jimmy Garvin.

They're working that program.

Duggan and Darso, Dogg and Taylor over Butch Reed and Nikolai Volkoff.

And then our preliminary and Neidhart and a couple of other people.

You can tell

that even, you know, before the new shit got started, that there's some revitalization going on in

the television.

Dundee's been responsible now for,

what, the last month or six weeks of TV that these people have seen, probably, because it started back at the end of November.

So, nevertheless, we press on.

We will move on to the next week.

And this, you remember, Brian, from watching all those old Mid-South TV tapings or Mid-South TV shows, where they would say the St.

Bernard Civic Center, right?

The St.

Bernard Civic Center in New Orleans.

And it sounds kind of, kind of grand, kind of St.

Bernard Civic Center.

Have you ever seen the St.

Bernard?

Did you ever see an eclipse from the St.

Bernard Civic Center?

Let me just say for the record, I never thought it sounded grand in any way when I heard the St.

Bernard Civic Center.

Well, you ought to see it in person.

It literally, when they could not, this was as we've talked about before the UNO Lakefront Arena had hosted wrestling.

It had just opened.

It was a brand new building, and we wouldn't do the first show there for several months.

And if, for whatever reason, they could not get the downtown municipal auditorium in New Orleans, they would run the St.

Bernard Civic Center in

and it's St.

Bernard Parish.

They're not counties in Louisiana.

They're called parishes, like Alexandria was Rapids Parish.

And

they're all parishes, right?

Well, I always thought from watching the TVs before I was ever a resident of the state of Louisiana

that it was still in New Orleans, right?

It's not in New Orleans.

It's in St.

Bernard, which is out of town, out of downtown New Orleans, way to the east and in a different parish.

but it was a

little local civic center.

And

when I say little local, I don't even know how to explain it.

It would probably

seat about, if they put seats on the floor and all the seats in the building, maybe a thousand 1,200 people.

And it was on, they had a Mid-South wrestling reunion there back in, I think, 2014 or whatever.

And it's the only time I'd ever seen the place in daylight.

And it's just a little building on the side of a street.

And you wouldn't, you know, it's, it doesn't sound like any kind of civic center, except I guess it is for St.

But the point is, we did a $12,000 house there

in that little fucking building, which was almost full.

And

the boys were telling me, watch them here because they can take a poke at you and be out the side door in a second.

But we had two in TA.

And

at this point,

they started getting a little fucking heat on the racket because

they went into a four-way.

And finally, as

Magnum TA got Bobby in an abdominal stretch, I jump up on the apron of the rig, and TA drops the stretch and comes for me and grabs me, but I throw the racket over his shoulder, and Bobby grabs it and clocks TA with it.

Down he goes, and we get disqualified and get some heat on him, short heat, because it was a fucking tight building, and got the fuck out of there.

And the cops had to goddamn wait around for us to get dressed so they could escort us to our cars from that finish because the people were waiting in the fucking parking lot.

So,

again, we, you know, New Orleans is starting already to to get into this so that we were somewhat glad to see that, but we're starting now to get used used to

the boys telling us where to watch out for and the cops starting to double up on us a little bit.

That was,

I think they felt sorry for me.

The cops are like, oh, this fucking guy, they're used to, look at Darso, look at Nikolai Volkov.

He's 330 pounds.

Me, they're like, oh, they're going to kill him.

And anyway.

And then we finished the month out on Tuesday, January 31st in Monroe, Louisiana.

As I've mentioned, New Orleans was a 400-mile round trip from Alexandria.

St.

Bernard was even farther.

Monroe is directly north.

So the following day, we did a 200-mile trip the other way.

And the same thing with Magnum and

Tube, where Bobby got aboard over the fucking head.

And then

I do not have the house recorded, but it doesn't seem like it was a wonderful house.

And then

we actually went to Shreveport since we were already in Monroe.

It's only 100 miles over.

So we went to Shreveport to the beautiful Alamo Plaza Motor Inn

where we could

stay the night and do interviews the next day and a TV taping the next night.

And that finishes up January, at least, of 1984.

Well, that's your schedule.

Where were you mentally at the end of the month?

I don't remember.

I didn't have time to think about it.

This is, I'm seeing all these towns for the first time.

And sometimes we go back to a town we were at before, it's at a different building.

And at the same time, we're just starting to get the

when we're doing the preliminaries, I understood that, okay, preliminary match, we're the heels, they're the baby faces, they don't like us, but it doesn't seem like anything life-threatening is going on.

And it's just to get over and the money's okay.

We can see if we were in the main events boy howdy but then after i got the first couple weeks of main events and these people start going out of their minds or we almost have a riot in houston or they're

you know the the cops are being warned to stay on top of me and things like that by the promotion officials watch cornet

i'm like okay this is this is getting over but goddamn

They seem to that we knew the Rock and Roll Express were coming.

I'm thinking if they're this mad because we're beating up fucking Wrestling 2, that cranky old bastard, when they see Ricky Morton sell, you know, we may need a tank.

And by this time, I mentioned it in the previous clip, but after we had tarred and feathered Magnum on television, it was all, it's already happened.

I can't remember.

I didn't write down particularly which day it was.

But the fans had found Bobby's car at the hotel and tarred and feathered it.

K.

Row syrup and fucking pillow feathers all over the whole goddamn thing.

And

you can take a picture of it.

Oh,

by the time that, are you kidding?

He was out there for two hours, three hours with a goddamn hose and fucking brushes trying to get it off before we even knew about it.

Where did he get a hose?

He was living at the time.

At the beautiful Alexandria Motor Lodge.

That's where it happened.

That's the place we went to.

When we first pulled into Alexandria, we're thinking, we'll find a goddamn Super Aid or a Days Aid.

We pulled into Alexandria, and of the, I think, two or three

available options that had the word motel in the title, it was Christmas Eve, and we ended up at the Alexandria Motor Lodge.

Bobby had walked in and said, Hey,

he wanted to ask if they might by any chance have a rate for pro wrestlers, right?

But what he said was, hey, can we get a rate here?

And the guy said, he didn't know who the fuck he was.

He said, for what?

He said, no, can we get, if we want to live here?

And he looked at him again, like, you want to live here?

And

he was thinking about, can we get a weekly rate?

Like, we got to find an apartment so we get a rate for a week, a weekly rate for a few weeks or whatever.

Bobby,

he'd lived at the Murfreesboro fucking inn or whatever for extended period of time.

We worked for Nick.

But anyway, finally, when the guy understood, he gave us a weekly rate.

And me and Dennis both got out of there, I think, as quickly as we could.

But

Bobby was there for a while, but he was, he got a hose from the fucking guy at the desk.

And

we had to go somewhere.

He couldn't drive it down the fucking road.

Like, you couldn't see out of it.

I just like the idea.

You call us, say, come over and see the goddamn.

anyway.

Can we get a rate?

What do you mean?

We want to move in.

Well, that's the time.

Did I tell you about the time we started flying to Oklahoma?

You know, I was calling up and making the reservations when we had to fly.

We were, you know, when we absolutely had to.

I'd call up, make the reservations.

I'd done it the first couple of times.

Well, Bobby said, well, Corn, let me call.

We're all sitting there in his room, right?

He said, let me call, make the reservation.

Because I've been calling his travel agent there in alexandria because they had a local airport there more on that when we get to that time period because they had a little local airport there that had like two airlines that completely serviced it it was like american eagle gets you to dallas or whatever and then

so

he calls the travel agent no he first he yes he called the travel agent And the first words out of his mouth, he said, yeah, I want to talk to y'all about a plane ride.

Like he wanted to just take a ride around it and come back right just i said no if i it's

should have used the terminology flight or ticket or

but anyway that's uh that's some of those things that happen

but nevertheless we can go ahead

before we move on or do whatever we're going to do here end of january 84 do you feel comfortable in mid-south do you feel like You got the lay of the land, that everyone's cool with you, that Watts is happy with what you're doing.

What do you think about Mid-South in general?

Well, no, the locker room was great.

I mean, Nikolai Volkov, I've talked about him, you know, a million times.

He was so fucking funny and such a jokester.

And

he would, he would keep you,

you know, because I mean, everybody's in the car constantly and making these trips and fighting these fans.

But in the locker room, everybody was happy for the most part.

At least if anybody was bitching about anything, everybody in the locker room was bitching about the same.

The heels would bitch about the glory happy baby faces, right?

That's universal in wrestling.

Or the fucking payoffs or the office or the stooges and the whatever.

But everybody was on the same bitch page.

And,

you know, Darso was a fucking great kid and he was just learning.

And that's what Ernie Ladway, fat Darso, come sit under the Lenin tree.

But, you know, he was a great guy again.

And these were guys you could count on.

They would come out or stay and and help you or we would stay and help them depending on you know who was at the end of the night was the heel that was going to need the most help getting back

and you could count on them to be there butch reed was he was hilarious in his own way and to listen to him jousting with fucking buddy when buddy got there i was going to say when buddy arrived what did that do for the heel locker room um well it gave

It gave the whole heel locker room entertainment because Buddy was entertaining, but sometimes he was annoying.

But when he was annoying, Butch was entertaining and telling everybody how annoying Buddy was.

So depending on which buddy you got, it was still entertaining.

And I mean, you know, but everybody was,

I didn't spend

any time significantly in a babyface locker room at all, either because I couldn't get there or Watts didn't encourage it.

So

There may have been some of them sniping at each other, but all the heels were happy.

It was just when you had to go out in the goddamn real world, take a chance on getting fucking set on fire by the fans that, you know, you had something to worry about.

Well, there it is.

Another look back at 40 years ago in Mid-South Wrestling, the year that put Jim Cornette and the Midnight Express on the map.

We'll be picking this story up again shortly with February 1984.

But Jim, any closing thoughts on January 84?

Well, I'm enjoying going back and looking at some of these things.

I've thought about some of the stories, obviously, in the the past, but haven't specifically minutely gone day to day in quite a while and examined this.

So we're getting into the good stuff where the houses start to come up and I start to make a shitload of money.

But before we can finish my story, I'm going to let Cody finish his.

So we're going to come back next week here on the Jim Cornette Experience with a...

Super length, super extravaganza WrestleMania weekend wrap-up report.

And I believe we're also going to do, as we usually do every week, your program, The Drive-Thru, where we'll talk about what AEW is meekly and meagerly offering in opposition to same.

So the next week's going to be busy and hectic in the world of podcasting, as far as we're concerned.

I hope everybody will stick with us and see

what the heck happens with all of these things that are coming to a head.

Are we done here for today?

What's your show?

Who am I to say?

Well, that's who are you?

That's the question we're all asking.

And we'll have an answer for you the next time we talk to you, folks.

Until then, thank you.

Fuck you.

Bye-bye, everybody.