Episode 522: Jim Reviews AEW Revolution 2024

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Speaker 30 Today, Roman Reigns is starting to smell what The Rock is cooking, and everybody can smell what Tony Khan is booking. It's one of those days, folks.
We're going to talk about it all and more.

Speaker 30 And here, joining me, Hawaiian Brian, the podcasting lion, the king of the Arcadian Vanguard Podcast Network, Mr. Co-Host of You.

Speaker 30 I acknowledge him as my tribal co-host, the great Brian Last, everybody.

Speaker 28 Aloha, Hajim. A pleasure to be here once again.
We have an exciting show. Lots of fun things and interesting things to talk about.

Speaker 28 A fun SmackDown, or at least a very interesting first part, and certainly a very interesting dynamite.

Speaker 30 Fun and interesting. Is that what?

Speaker 28 I have been interested to hear what you're going to say about this week's dynamite all week since it ended up.

Speaker 30 Okay, but just let's let's start doing this now. That's going to be you're fun and interesting.
You're relying, they're crutches that you're relying on.

Speaker 30 Oh, hey, hey, now, what is that ringing? It's still echoing in my ears. Um,

Speaker 30 now

Speaker 30 that's been echoing under the covers all night. I had a hot brown last night, and oh, boy, I had a, well, you know, a hot brown is a local delicacy, a sandwich, the, the Louisville hot brown.

Speaker 30 It's turkey and cheese sauce and bacon. It's not some kind of

Speaker 28 going in or going out?

Speaker 30 No, well, occasionally under the cover, the Dutch oven is memorialized locally here as a hot brown if it comes back on you. But nevertheless, I wasn't even going anywhere.
I wasn't even going there.

Speaker 30 But you're going to force me to say at the top of the program, and ladies and gentlemen, we are experiencing some audio issues in our internet connection today as a result of, I don't know what the fuck,

Speaker 30 but I've already been on my hands and knees unplugging shit and plugging it back in here. And I don't like to get on my hands and knees anymore.
I'm an older gentleman, full of the sciatica.

Speaker 30 But I did it for you, Brian, because I want you to know that

Speaker 30 your guys showed up at the door the other day,

Speaker 30 the brothers from the islands. I didn't realize that,

Speaker 30 I mean, I thought Hawaii and Brian,

Speaker 30 we were just kidding, just kidding amongst podcasters. I didn't realize that you had made the connections with the bloodline while you were over there spending all that time in the islands.

Speaker 28 Well, you see, while Roman Reigns is out there as the face of the bloodline and as the tribal chief, there's someone behind the tribal chief that's really running the show, and it's Hawaiian Bryan.

Speaker 30 Well, no, there's somebody behind the tribal chief that's running that show, and that's The Rock. And then there's the

Speaker 30 man behind the Rock, which apparently is,

Speaker 28 hey,

Speaker 28 I'm the one who made him a heel, so I will take credit for that.

Speaker 30 You know, one may be be the face of the bloodline, one may be the mouth of the bloodline, but who is really the brain of the bloodline?

Speaker 28 Let's not get away from the bigger issue here because I sound great on this recording, I'm sure. You sound like technical shit.

Speaker 28 So we have to apologize to the listeners. We're trying to figure out the problems, but we had an old man on his hands and knees, and what's he going to do to fix this problem? Yeah.

Speaker 28 But we are working with the old man's friends now to try to

Speaker 28 make this work.

Speaker 30 We're going to see what we can do

Speaker 30 in coming days. We'll keep everybody posted.
But have you seen, Brian,

Speaker 30 that the city of Louisville, Kentucky made the World Wide News this weekend here? Did you see all about this?

Speaker 28 That was amazing. That was like something out of a movie.
You never see that. That was amazing.

Speaker 30 Well, you know what? They were just saying on the news this morning that they didn't really think it was possible when they built that and planned that bridge. And they just, well,

Speaker 30 I'll fill everybody in. If you've been living under a rock or have poor internet,

Speaker 30 in Louisville, Kentucky here,

Speaker 30 we are, our metropolitan area includes southern Indiana.

Speaker 30 But the states of Kentucky and Indiana are separated by the wide, wide Ohio River. And therefore, there's several bridges.
Now, the

Speaker 30 The Interstate 64, the bridge, it goes from downtown Louisville to New Albany, right? And Interstate 65, as everyone knows, goes from Louisville over into southern Indiana and up to Indianapolis.

Speaker 30 And now they built a new, beautiful, expensive-ass fucking bridge, the East End Bridge for 265, where you can go out that way in the suburbs and there's no traffic.

Speaker 30 You don't have to fuck with downtown.

Speaker 30 But as a result, and they've fixed up all these bridges here lately, and they've painted them and they just, they've made love to them. And it's just, it's wonderful.
except what they did was

Speaker 30 they they started charging a toll

Speaker 30 and it now it they we never used to have a toll to go across a fucking bridge around here we're on if if you live in jeffersonville indiana and work in downtown louisville you can live two and a half miles away from as as you drive not even as the crow flies from your job and have to pay five bucks a pop now every time you go back and forth five dollars over five dollars back.

Speaker 30 We never had fucking tolls. People

Speaker 30 roamed freely amongst the planes here, right?

Speaker 28 Wait until I tell you about New York City now.

Speaker 30 Well, but they built all these bridges in Ada, so now they got the tolls, and they take the picture of your license plate as you go across, and you get it in the mail, and, you know, whatever the fuck.

Speaker 30 But there's one bridge left, Brian. They ain't no toll.

Speaker 30 The old bridge, the 2nd Street Bridge, its official name is the Clark Memorial Bridge, named after our dear founder george rogers clark

Speaker 30 and it's that it's a it it empties out onto second street and downtown louisville and it goes across the river and empties up into goddamn it's jeffersonville over there but sellersburg anyway Point is it's an old the oldest bridge and it's the narrowest bridge, but it's the one that's still free.

Speaker 30 So tons of people that work downtown get in and out on that bridge and don't have to fucking pay, whatever.

Speaker 30 I don't know why that you would even take a truck this size across that bridge, but they do.

Speaker 30 And something happened that caused an accident amongst three, I believe three cars and this giant tractor trailer, 18-wheeler fucking,

Speaker 30 you know, transport truck that you see on the goddamn interstate. On this little tiny bridge, it's two lanes each way, but barely, right?

Speaker 30 And then there's a sidewalk where people walk across while this traffic is going next to them, right?

Speaker 30 Hopefully there was nobody next to this. Whatever happens, it causes this tractor trailer

Speaker 30 to turn fucking

Speaker 30 sideways, perpendicular. It's across the goddamn bridge lengthways, right?

Speaker 30 How can I describe this? The tractor trailer truck is longer than the bridge is wide, but somehow it ends up headfirst

Speaker 30 off the side of the fucking bridge right through in the middle of the steel girders like it was driving a cross street and ran a stop sign.

Speaker 30 And however long,

Speaker 30 what is one of those trailers? 50 feet, 60 feet, something like that long?

Speaker 28 I'm not sure.

Speaker 30 Well, however long that one of them is,

Speaker 30 half of it was still on the bridge and the other half was across the railing and out dangling downwards over the river.

Speaker 30 And then on top of that, the cab with the driver in it was dangling from in front of the trailer from whatever it's connected to those goddamn trailers, which I assume it's built for pulling, not for fucking dangling, right?

Speaker 30 So this may be a precarious perpendicular position

Speaker 30 that these poor people have found themselves in.

Speaker 30 And then the hood of the goddamn engine or of the cab, the hood is fucking dangling even further than that. It looked like a goddamn movie.

Speaker 30 And the driver is in this.

Speaker 30 It's a woman.

Speaker 30 As Mama Cornette used to say, I hate women driving. Every time she'd be driving me when I was a kid, and if somebody would do something stupid or pull out in front of her or whatever, it was a woman.

Speaker 30 She's, I hate women drivers.

Speaker 30 But this giant truck is being driven by, you would not think, but it was a woman.

Speaker 30 And so she is in this thing for like 45 minutes dangling

Speaker 30 50 feet off the edge of this fucking bridge. And

Speaker 30 I assume that the

Speaker 30 trailer somehow got wedged is why that it wouldn't go any further.

Speaker 30 all the way off, but you know,

Speaker 30 these things are subject to change in a situation like that.

Speaker 30 so they got the fucking fire department and to come down all trucks blazing right but they got a um

Speaker 30 what's word i'm searching for so many words searching through my mind a winch or of the crane the crane

Speaker 30 they got the crane and they they got one of their rescue fire department specialist team members i don't know how the fuck you train for this shit

Speaker 30 and they hooked him up to a cable on the crane and then swung him out over across the side of the bridge and dropped him down

Speaker 30 next to the

Speaker 30 driver's door of the cab, which now he's 30 feet below the fucking bridge or whatever.

Speaker 30 And they open the door and the driver grabs a hold of him and he fucking slings her up over his shoulder and they, you know, a bear hug and they lift him up.

Speaker 30 and swing him back onto the fucking bridge.

Speaker 30 And then once and they tattened, I think two people are still in the hospital that were in the cars. The driver, I think, is already out of the hospital.
They just checked her out, but she

Speaker 30 had to dig through 50 pounds of shit out of her pants.

Speaker 30 And then they had to use this goddamn giant crane and winch. That apparatus came into play also

Speaker 30 to drag this goddamn giant truck off the side of this bridge.

Speaker 30 So now they're saying that the Transportation Department is having to inspect it because it blasted through the steel railing and it damaged the concrete sidewalk, pedestrian sidewalk, you know, off the fucking edge of the thing and who knows what structurally when all that steel, which is bolted to the apparatus.

Speaker 30 So they're checking this thing out. And one of the other bridges is already, one lane each way is closed because they were doing the routine repairs.
So now

Speaker 30 this is not only chaos, but they have robbed everybody of the only free way to get between Kentucky and Indiana.

Speaker 30 But what a fucking high spot, huh?

Speaker 28 It was incredible. I mean, the sight of it and then the rescue.

Speaker 28 And I saw an interview with the guy who did the rescue, and you're just like, how did this guy just so casually handle this? So, yeah, we never really practiced this one.

Speaker 28 Anyway, where was Superman?

Speaker 30 Well, he couldn't hear what was going on.

Speaker 28 No, he has superhero.

Speaker 30 He hadn't got super hearing, according to you.

Speaker 28 He has a super hearing aid.

Speaker 30 All right.

Speaker 30 I'll give that one to you, and we'll move on. Thank you.

Speaker 30 Yeah, you're quite welcome.

Speaker 30 Jim in Pittsburgh sent an email and along with a link

Speaker 30 to a YouTube clip of the Pittsburgh Great American Bash from the Civic Arena in 1987.

Speaker 30 And it was a handheld, you know, fan cam thing, but I got a kick out of it, and I will explain when I read his email.

Speaker 30 He says, hi, Jim and Brian. On December 30th, I lost my dad to leukemia.
He was 91 years old and whooped its ass for over a year.

Speaker 30 I'm telling you about him because one of my fondest memories of my dad involves Jim.

Speaker 30 My dad loved wrestling, and we were in front of the TV at 6.05 every Saturday. In 1987, he took my best friend and I to see the Great American Bash tour.

Speaker 30 Our seats were near the top of the Civic Arena, but it didn't matter. It was one of the best nights of my life.

Speaker 30 The main event was an eight-man tag match featuring Nikita, Dusty, and the Road Warriors against the four horsemen, who at the time were flare

Speaker 30 woo-ings.

Speaker 30 He put that in there. I have to say that.

Speaker 30 Tully, Arne, and Luger.

Speaker 30 However, my main event happened the match before when you and Big Bubba walked into the ring with beautiful Bobby Bobby and Sweet Stan to take on Ronnie Garvin and Barry Wyndham.

Speaker 30 It was my first time seeing you live and my smile nearly jumped off of my face. I've made a lot of people's smile leave their faces.

Speaker 30 But thank you, Jim. But the smile nearly jumped off my face when you crutched in with that green blazer.
And Brian,

Speaker 30 I was still on crutches. This was

Speaker 30 sometime like,

Speaker 30 oh my God, it was still in the first two weeks of July, I think, but that's when I had blown my fucking

Speaker 30 knee in left knee in Philadelphia at the last show we had there in June and had to have it scoped and missed the Great American Bash 87 4th of July show in the Omni because I was still in the goddamn bed with my leg up in the air.

Speaker 30 But I got back on the road by the next week and was there on crutches.

Speaker 30 Are you still there? I haven't heard from you.

Speaker 28 No, I am here. I've been listening to your delightful story from 1987.

Speaker 30 Uh-huh.

Speaker 28 On crutches in a green blazer. What a villain.

Speaker 30 Yes. That's well, I know.
That's the one that, goddamn, when I won the masters, I got the green blazer.

Speaker 28 Masters, what? The masturbators?

Speaker 30 The master tournament. Oh.

Speaker 30 Hey, watch it. You know, I was...

Speaker 28 It was a tournament of masturbators?

Speaker 30 I was a master debater in

Speaker 30 school. Anyway, he says, people were throwing paper balls at you and you casually swatted one out of the air.

Speaker 30 The midnights were disqualified with the ref found Big Bubba's hat in the ring. It must have been windy that day and blown off.
We did the Bubba because I couldn't get in the ring. I couldn't walk.

Speaker 30 He rolls in and gives the Bubba slam to.

Speaker 30 I think it was Garvin

Speaker 30 and rolls out, but his hat had fallen off. And he perfected that where he could fucking have that hat on.
And when he hit the bubba slam, it would fall off and land right in the right place.

Speaker 30 And boom, he'd roll out, and the referee would roll over and count one, two, and the third time his hand came down, he'd snatch the hat up in the air, and the people would see that he saw it, and they would fucking pop.

Speaker 30 And then he'd look and milk or whatever. Actually, I can't remember whether he

Speaker 30 looked at this one. We added the milking later but he went right to, God damn it, wave it off.

Speaker 28 Anyway. How many times, I know you have a story where a whole group of fans made a concerted effort and brought tennis balls and they were all pegging them at you.
Yeah. You were swatting them.

Speaker 28 But how often did people bring a ball or make balls and throw things at you and you would swat them back? And if you do that, Does the House Security think, oh, okay, I'll let this go?

Speaker 28 He's playing along with them?

Speaker 30 No, actually,

Speaker 30 it's in the situation like in Boone, North Carolina, is where the story was from, where they're just fucking winging them at us. And

Speaker 30 there ain't nobody trying to stop them because we're at the college and the security is the fucking college guys that they got, whatever the fuck, right?

Speaker 30 So at that point, it became malicious. And I'm like, bam, I'm drilling them back at some people.

Speaker 30 If you want.

Speaker 30 If you want to take the chance that one's coming back at you quick, keep throwing them, motherfucker, because it was self-defense.

Speaker 30 When people are bawling up

Speaker 30 cups of ice or just paper cups or the popcorn or whatever, they're throwing that's part of it. Generally, I would use the racket as more of a shield that I would hold up.

Speaker 30 But every once in a while, if you saw one coming right at you,

Speaker 30 that you would have either had to really duck and put over or you can just reach up and do the lob boom without fucking drilling it down the goddamn court like Navratilova and getting sued by somebody and do the pop, sometimes

Speaker 30 they'll fucking laugh and quit doing it actually.

Speaker 30 Right?

Speaker 30 And so it just depends on what's going on.

Speaker 30 So sometimes it's in self-defense or maliciously like that. Other times it's in self-defense as far as just blocking the shit.

Speaker 30 And every once in a while it's just being a fucking smartass and taking an easy one where you look cool instead of being pelted with fucking, you know, piss-filled paper cups.

Speaker 30 Does that answer your question?

Speaker 28 If you had gone to the WWF in 1986, do you think Vince would have done that in that era? Like, we'll have tennis balls with your face on it and the fans could buy them and throw them at you. No.

Speaker 28 And then buy more and throw them at you again.

Speaker 30 No, not only because,

Speaker 30 not even because that it might have been hazardous to my health, but because it would have been potential legal liability that somebody at his legal department would talk him out of.

Speaker 30 Vince, he may spend $20 million on covering up perverted activity, but he wasn't going to spend shit just to merchandise my goddamn balls.

Speaker 28 Yeah, this will be a liability, but it's okay to rehire Mel Phillips. That'll go over well.

Speaker 28 Well, but don't do anything where the tennis balls will be in the crowd.

Speaker 30 That's the thing. Mel Phillips didn't have anything to do with my balls either.

Speaker 28 What about your feet?

Speaker 30 Or feet. I never met the man.

Speaker 28 Did you know he was WFIA Fan of the Year in like 73, I think?

Speaker 30 I heard that years later. Well, I mean, I may have read that in the magazine at the time.
And why would I, 12 years old, you know, think about the name Mel Phillips, right?

Speaker 30 But then I heard it years later also. I was reminded of it.
And I was like, what the fuck?

Speaker 30 And was that, did they do some kind of Northeastern convention that year?

Speaker 30 Or did he venture out trying to expand his network of friends

Speaker 28 I don't remember I think it was not in the northeast if I had to guess hmm

Speaker 30 we've there

Speaker 30 there might be little little feet running around in different parts of the country now they say in the Midwest they have very big feet who says that no one says that no one says that see

Speaker 30 see you just folded you should have said I've heard it many times I've heard it I heard it from you you're the one who told me well in that case it may be valid um

Speaker 30 All right, here's something. We're going to be dressed down a bit.

Speaker 30 Dressed down just a bit here.

Speaker 30 We got an email here from one of the listeners who shall remain nameless, but he says, Dear Jim and Brian, first and foremost, I'm not here to bitch and moan, call you guys assholes, and tell you I'll never listen again.

Speaker 30 However, I did have an issue with what was said when you guys were talking about homeless podcast listeners.

Speaker 30 Now, remember, because we had an email from one of the listeners who said he found us, he was homeless during the pandemic, and that's when he found the podcast.

Speaker 30 I said, well, if he's homeless, has he ever phone or apparatus to listen to the whatever, right? That the conversation went from there.

Speaker 30 Well,

Speaker 30 this gentleman is testifying also, I too found your podcast while I was homeless during the pandemic. Fortunately, I did have a job at a car.

Speaker 30 You may ask how someone could be gainfully employed and still not have a place to call home.

Speaker 30 A huge, unexpected expense like medical bills that's bad enough for you to miss a few months' rent, combined with poor credit and a shit rental market, is enough to put someone on the street, even with a job.

Speaker 30 And Jim asked how someone could have a phone, but no home.

Speaker 30 The reality of 2024 is that most people need a smartphone to get through their day. Now, and here's the thing.
I will come back to this email in a second.

Speaker 30 But here's the thing. Being as it was my natural, what do the kids call it, a default setting?

Speaker 30 I'm like, well, fuck it. How can you have in my mind? I'm still wired.

Speaker 30 How could you have a fucking phone if you don't have a home? Because where would you plug it in?

Speaker 30 So that's just, it's just.

Speaker 28 And I told you there's plenty of places like Starbucks.

Speaker 30 No, I mean, where would you plug the phone in the wall?

Speaker 28 That's what I mean. Plug it in.

Speaker 30 I mean the phone line.

Speaker 28 Oh, I'm talking about the charger.

Speaker 30 No, I'm talking about the goddamn phone line. Remember, my phone's still plugged in the wall the old-fashioned way.

Speaker 30 I'm thinking, if you ain't got a house or a home, how can you plug the goddamn phone in? And where would they send the bill to?

Speaker 30 But see, that's because I'm old-fashioned.

Speaker 30 So now I'm being educated to all these newfangled ways that you can do things in this world. Listen to this stuff here.

Speaker 30 The reality of 2024 is that most people need a smartphone to get through their day, not just to get on Twitter or listen to podcasts, but to get access to government programs and bank accounts.

Speaker 30 Call 911 if needed. Keep in contact with friends and family, as homelessness can be very lonely, and apply for jobs.
Listen to this.

Speaker 30 Next time you're grabbing a classic triple, look at Wendy's, look for the QR code. You need to scan to get an application.
No one uses paper applications anymore.

Speaker 30 Do you mean to tell me that as bad and rotten as the service is at most contemporary fast food outlets, that if somebody comes in and says, I would like a job, do you have openings? Yes.

Speaker 30 Can I fill out an application? They ain't got no applications.

Speaker 28 They will send you to a website or an app, yeah.

Speaker 30 What the fuck? you're the person who's standing here standing in front of the goddamn manager i'd like to speak to the manager they don't expect you manage me goddamn right now

Speaker 30 i will work for money what would you like me to do i'm standing here in front of you you can evaluate my goddamn appearance and my attitude and my goddamn perspicacity and my linguistic ability if I'm supposed to be on your goddamn drive-through or potentially I may fucking out-manage you, you son of a bitch, and take this place over from you.

Speaker 30 Something, what? You can't.

Speaker 30 No wonder. They just fucking write in on the internet.
They apply, but they don't actually come.

Speaker 30 Anyway,

Speaker 30 he continues.

Speaker 30 Also, the average rent in the city I live in is $1,200 a month. You can get a smartphone for free through government programs and keep it up and running for $50 a a month.

Speaker 30 And it's far easier to get enough money together for a phone than monthly rent, let alone electric, gas, and water.

Speaker 30 So he kept his phone changed, changed, kept his phone charged in the car.

Speaker 30 But $25 can get a membership at Planet Fitness where you can charge your phone, use Wi-Fi, and shower.

Speaker 30 So it's basically,

Speaker 30 if you are.

Speaker 28 Sounds like a great way to save money. I may try some of this.

Speaker 30 Hey, come on now.

Speaker 30 Just send the kids out to pick up some odd jobs. But if you're enterprising enough,

Speaker 30 apparently

Speaker 30 it's easy to do almost anything except find a place to live anymore. But anyway, he says, I know both of you didn't mean anything by your comments and were just entertaining the people.

Speaker 30 But I don't want to have other listeners feel marginalized or ignored just for a quick laugh in a three-hour podcast. Lord knows the homeless get enough of that every day.

Speaker 30 Keep up the good work and no hard feelings.

Speaker 28 And we apologize for the technical difficulties. That's the one thing the homeless have better internet than gym.

Speaker 30 Ah, and here's another P.S. with a heartfelt note.

Speaker 30 He says, for those of you who are out there in the same position, homelessness isn't the end. While

Speaker 30 listening to these guys for the last four years, I've gone from sleeping in the front seat of a 20-year-old Buick to a one-room studio and now a three-bedroom apartment.

Speaker 28 All right. Homelessness isn't the end.
Marriages.

Speaker 30 There you go. Now that you, everybody can agree with that.

Speaker 30 But do you remember the fucking commercials that used to be on late at night?

Speaker 30 From what was that guy's name that was as some get-rich quick scheme where he said, I was making X amount of dollars a month from my one-bedroom apartment.

Speaker 28 Oh, the guy was like, I take tiny little ads in newspapers all around the country. Yes.
And you're like, okay, but you don't say what you're selling in these little ads.

Speaker 28 What are you selling in these little ads all around the country?

Speaker 30 You know what the fucking gimmick was?

Speaker 30 What?

Speaker 30 That was his pitch. He was, I take out tiny little ads in newspapers all across the country.
And then I bridge, I'd do more and more of that. And pretty soon he's gone from a one-bedroom apartment.

Speaker 30 He's making $100,000 a month or whatever.

Speaker 30 He's putting the tiny little ads in for my fucking, and you can find out the secret, right? So you send the goddamn dollar or whatever the fuck it is, and he sends you back.

Speaker 30 He just put a tiny little ad in it and says, send me a dollar for my get-rich quick fucking secret.

Speaker 28 His name was Don LaPri.

Speaker 30 There you go. Don LaPre.
La Pré.

Speaker 28 Lepre, excuse me. La Pre, that's right.
Now I do remember the name better. Hold on.
Let's see if we can get some audio here.

Speaker 30 Oh, good lord.

Speaker 30 Anybody's audio but mine, right?

Speaker 28 Well, Don's may sound better. He's dead.
Hold on one second. Here's Don LaPray.

Speaker 31 This is one of the most incredible things that I have seen.

Speaker 29 The second way to make money that I stumbled onto was placing tiny classified ads in the newspaper.

Speaker 29 If you create and test one tiny classified ad in the newspaper that makes just $30 to $40 profit in a week, it could make you a fortune because the secret is learning how to take that one tiny classified ad that just made $30 to $40 profit in a week and to realize that you could now take that same exact ad and place it in up to 3,000 other newspapers around the country.

Speaker 29 That's what I did. I found tiny classified ads that made $30 to $40 profit in a week and I placed those ads in around 1,000 other newspapers around the country.

Speaker 29 That's how I generated over $50,000 a week out of my one-bedroom apartment.

Speaker 29 And in my making money package I'll show you some secrets about placing ads that's gonna make you wish you started doing this five years ago and there are millions of different types of ads that you can create I've been talking about doing this for the last five years and I'm still placing classified ads in newspapers all over the country every day of the week I've been doing this for the last five years and I'm still making millions of dollars doing exactly what I'm talking about.

Speaker 29 And now there are people that got my Make Your Money package and they started placing tiny classified ads in the newspapers just like I did.

Speaker 28 Was it? Well, let's stop it there. There's the pitch.
If you wonder what the noise was behind him, he's on the beach. Those are waves crashing into the shore.

Speaker 30 He's gone from a tiny one-bedroom apartment from placing these classified ads. And now he lives in goddamn Tahiti somewhere with the waves and the palms and the fronds

Speaker 30 and the sands of time.

Speaker 28 Do you know anything about how he turned out?

Speaker 30 What happened to Don? Did he go back to a one bedroom? Please tell me he went back to that one bedroom apartment.

Speaker 28 According to what I see here, he later began broadcasting infomercials for the greatest vitamin in the world,

Speaker 28 whatever that may be. The FDA warned him about his claims that

Speaker 28 it is not intended to treat people with diseases such as diabetes, stroke, heart disease, insomnia, cancer. Because, wait, he claimed his vitamins were intended for these people.
Wow.

Speaker 28 And then on June 15th, 2011, the Associated Press reported that he was indicted by a federal grand jury in Phoenix, Arizona on accusations of running a nationwide scheme to sell worthless internet businesses.

Speaker 28 Wow. Federal prosecutors accused LaPre of bilking more than 220,000 victims out of nearly $52 million.

Speaker 28 He was charged with 41 counts in tiny little ads. Oh, no, there's 41 counts of conspiracy, mail fraud, wire fraud, promotional money laundering, and transactional money laundering.

Speaker 28 A federal judge issued a bench warrant for him on June 22nd, 2011, after he failed to appear for his arraignment.

Speaker 30 He was arrested on June 27th in a tiny one-bedroom apartment.

Speaker 28 Where he lived. Well, he was arrested in Tempe, Arizona at the Lifetime Fitness Center.
That's a good gym.

Speaker 28 Where he had reportedly lived for two days with serious self-inflicted knife wounds to his groin. Oh, my.
What?

Speaker 28 What?

Speaker 28 I hate the laugh.

Speaker 28 I've never read that before. Fucking turn.

Speaker 28 He's been living at the fucking gym for two days while stabbing himself in the groin?

Speaker 30 You know, from the time that I first

Speaker 30 started watching those fucking commercials, I said, I could believe if you said this guy has been indicted for anything, right? But if you said,

Speaker 30 you will find that guy at the fucking Lifetime Fitness Center fucking stabbing himself in the dick,

Speaker 30 I don't know if I'd have bought it.

Speaker 28 The wounds led authorities to believe he had attempted suicide.

Speaker 30 The hard way.

Speaker 28 He was trying to sever an artery in his legs.

Speaker 28 I'm sorry to laugh. It's just such a ridiculous.

Speaker 30 This fucking guy that was organized enough to bilk 220,000 people out of $52 million, That's the best fucking plan he can come up with.

Speaker 30 That's the most efficient way of getting it done.

Speaker 28 He had a tiny little groin. He just didn't know what's going on.

Speaker 28 No, but later on he died.

Speaker 30 Dude, I just placed tiny little cuts all over.

Speaker 28 He later died. LePre did.

Speaker 30 From what?

Speaker 28 He was in jail awaiting his trial, which was scheduled to begin in October 2011.

Speaker 28 The autopsy report stated that he died from a massive blood loss or from massive blood loss after cutting his throat with razor blade with a razor blade. I can't read all of a sudden.
And

Speaker 28 he had wrapped himself in sheets to conceal them.

Speaker 28 I'm sorry to laugh. This is just the craziest thing.
And he wrapped himself in sheets to conceal the massive blood loss from anyone who may try to save him.

Speaker 28 So he cut his own throat with razor with a razor blade and wrapped himself in sheets so no one would be able to see

Speaker 28 blood spewing out of his neck. I don't know how.

Speaker 28 Well, that was the tiny little story of tiny little.

Speaker 30 Starting out to be so funny.

Speaker 30 What's the,

Speaker 30 you know, maybe we actually ought to have some type of format for this show and control over what happens and not just

Speaker 30 go off on these tangents or wing things.

Speaker 30 one of these days, we're gonna end up back in a one-bedroom apartment. Uh,

Speaker 28 you know, the question is, though, the internet thing that he got indicted for, that couldn't have been everything like he was doing in the 90s, just because of, I don't think it would have been because of the time.

Speaker 30 No, that was all new shit there.

Speaker 28 So, what was he like? What were people taking out ads to sell? Was he selling?

Speaker 30 No, I think that was, that was it. Is it was because that's I

Speaker 30 I have seen other of these type of things where you would send a 695 and it would tell you the whole procedure of how to put an ad in the paper and get these books printed or order these books.

Speaker 28 You know, like x-ray eyes and all these like goofy things.

Speaker 30 No, just on how to get rich. And they'll fucking

Speaker 30 tell the story.

Speaker 28 So you get an ad about how to get rich?

Speaker 30 You're how to get rich. And you get the material.
It's like put at. take out ads and say how to get rich and send them this pamphlet.
And it just is a goddamn giant chain fucking letter.

Speaker 30 I don't know if that's what he was doing or not, but it's goddamn ads for people to send a minute amount of money, but with in bulk

Speaker 30 to

Speaker 30 for something that doesn't cost you anything, it's worth nothing.

Speaker 28 Well, for those who have been asking for a Don LaPrey segment, I've never seen anyone ask for it, but there it is.

Speaker 30 Well, for those of you who have been wanting to find out how you can send a nominal amount of money to someone for basically nothing, jimcornet.com

Speaker 30 is open for business right now, folks.

Speaker 30 And I will tell you, I am proud to say that we are not in a one-bedroom apartment, that a lot of these fine Midnight Express and Heavenly Bodies tag team action figure sets are finding good homes with the people, the cult of Cornette out there, as they are winging their way to the consumers now.

Speaker 30 I mentioned on the last week's shows, the Feather Bottoms already sent out the first 250 packages.

Speaker 30 The second 250 are either have gone out or in the process of going out or will have gone out by the time you hear this.

Speaker 30 If you do hear this, because of the audio quality.

Speaker 30 And more are coming in equal numbers next week. And we're getting caught up with this thing.
All the pictures have been signed.

Speaker 30 And now you can order with impunity and integrity and know that there will be almost no waiting, at least no more than normal.

Speaker 30 As you get these fine-quality action figures and all of the official Jim Jim Cornette merchandise, t-shirts, DVDs, books, certificates, and so much more are going to be back on sale this coming Saturday, March the 9th, as we have cleared our backlog to make sure we got the figures to those customers first.

Speaker 30 And now the whole

Speaker 30 line is coming back. The whole lineup, I started, but I shouldn't put myself on a lineup.
The whole line of merchandise is

Speaker 30 coming back up for sale on March the 9th. And the Featherbottoms have got this thing under control.
Somebody even tweeted out, they said,

Speaker 30 you could have run over this box of fine merchandise with a goddamn tractor trailer truck. It's sturdier than the Clark Memorial Bridge in Louisville.

Speaker 28 That's right.

Speaker 30 Well, I didn't expect you to disagree with me because everybody knows that you can reinforce.

Speaker 30 A cardboard box where it will be even sturdier than a fucking major artery passenger bridge, but nevertheless, where the artery in your groin is

Speaker 30 groin, Don

Speaker 30 LePre,

Speaker 30 you know, he's where do you think he's hiding?

Speaker 28 He loves working out, he must be at the gym. Let's go to the gym.
Oh, what is he doing?

Speaker 28 Jesus, did he do it in the shower? Did he like just sit on a bench in a general area where all the lockers are?

Speaker 28 Who's that guy in the middle of the room stabbing himself in the dick?

Speaker 30 How did how did he get to two days?

Speaker 30 Wouldn't you notice if you were gym employees when some

Speaker 30 disheveled, potentially obviously visually troubled individual has been in your establishment for a day, day and a half?

Speaker 28 Imagine stabbing yourself in the dick a bunch of times, thinking it'll kill you, and it doesn't. And you have like two days of like, oh, what have I done?

Speaker 28 My dick.

Speaker 30 Or my hole, whichever. Where are we going with this? The point is,

Speaker 30 he's gone from a figure of ridicule to now to a figure of grossness. Is it still as funny?

Speaker 28 I don't know. Now you ruined it.

Speaker 30 The voice, the whole voice thing was hilarious to me because that voice was so, and in the class I find that. But then now that I find out that he's some kind of

Speaker 30 goddamn criminal fucking lunatic.

Speaker 30 Maybe he was. You know what? Were there any unsolved murders?

Speaker 28 They didn't say anything about him murdering people.

Speaker 30 Well,

Speaker 30 if he'll do that, who knows what he'll do?

Speaker 28 All of his infomercials are on YouTube. Apparently, he was one of the most, and this makes sense.

Speaker 28 He was on TV as much as anyone on cable or on regular TV, I guess, because of the infomercials in the early 90s and mid-90s.

Speaker 30 Yes.

Speaker 30 When you got back to your hotel room after a show, you were going to see see Don LaPre

Speaker 30 on three-fifths of the channels available for between the hours of 1 and 6 a.m.

Speaker 30 at that period of time.

Speaker 30 From his one-bedroom apartment. All right.

Speaker 30 But we ain't going to see him no more.

Speaker 28 No, we're not. It's your show.

Speaker 30 Why are you laughing?

Speaker 28 Because what a transition that is. We ain't going to see him no more.

Speaker 30 Well, here's.

Speaker 28 You thought you offended the homeless listeners. Wait until the groin cutters get in touch.

Speaker 30 Jesus.

Speaker 30 Well, the groin could, it doesn't have to be, I guess, the

Speaker 30 actual phallic object itself.

Speaker 30 It could be anything in that area. Maybe the inside of the thighs is, that's where the artery or thing is.
So he wasn't just willy-nilly trying to cut Willie off. He was

Speaker 30 boy. you'd...

Speaker 28 It could be anything that Rick Rude sold when he got atomic dropped.

Speaker 30 There you go.

Speaker 30 And I don't... Is there a major artery in the taint?

Speaker 30 The cross-taintal fucking artery?

Speaker 28 I don't have that medical book. I don't know.

Speaker 30 All right, well, let's cross over to the other side of the

Speaker 30 cross over to the other side of the taint and get straight to an asshole that we know well. Brian Alvarez has

Speaker 30 been reporting on the unrest in the

Speaker 30 AEW locker room. Has he not?

Speaker 30 On the situation where it's more last minute or more hectic or nobody knows what they're doing or they want to know more about what they're doing or do you have the quotes available?

Speaker 28 Well, I have a little bit of audio I could play here. This was tweeted out by Meltzer Says What? And then you and I were bombarded by people sending it to us.

Speaker 28 And there's nothing he says here that's wrong. I guess the question is why say it now? Who's it impacting now that they're complaining to Brian Alvarez

Speaker 28 that he didn't hear it from in the past? Because these are the same things, the same things that we've heard in the past. But let's play some of this audio.
Stop it whenever you want.

Speaker 28 This is from Wrestling Observer Live, February 29th.

Speaker 31 Very frustrated because they don't find out the Tuesday before like some people do.

Speaker 31 I mean some people will know what they're doing because, like, there are a couple of matches usually advertised in advance.

Speaker 31 But most people are showing up the day of the show, and they find out whether they're doing anything or not. And there's very little communication.
People are very...

Speaker 31 I've been hearing about this for months. People are very frustrated.
Like, they show up. Here's what you're going to do.

Speaker 31 Lots of people will complain and it gets changed, which is also a big problem I hear about all the time. People don't want to do something.

Speaker 30 Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on a second, hold on a second. I know he's going somewhere else with that, but let's not get let him get too far ahead.
Before we,

Speaker 30 I agree that you should know

Speaker 30 when you're going to a television taping whether or not you are working on said taping

Speaker 30 or whether you might be just talking

Speaker 30 if you need special gear. You know what I'm saying? That you're going to, you come prepared because you know

Speaker 30 well, you always go prepared. You would always have your gear, but is anything

Speaker 30 extra special going on that I'd need to know about?

Speaker 30 But

Speaker 30 I mean,

Speaker 30 I think that

Speaker 30 there's the generation gap has

Speaker 30 between

Speaker 30 years prior and today's talent has not only widened, but also

Speaker 30 it is added to by Tony's lack of goddamn control and or order at this point.

Speaker 30 I mean, he's got his graphs that go out horizontally and diagonally and vertically and whatever.

Speaker 30 But

Speaker 30 if you know, as long as you know I'm not being flown halfway across the country or all the way across the country to sit around with my dick in my hand.

Speaker 30 And they never booked me to begin with and just didn't tell me, that's not fair to the talent, right?

Speaker 30 Although that's the old way of thinking because we were always on the road. Since these fucking guys only work once or twice a week,

Speaker 30 fuck it, if he wants to spend the money to fly them across the country and then just sit them in catering, I guess that's up to him. They're making guarantees.

Speaker 30 I'm thinking about when the talent's time was valuable.

Speaker 30 But you don't need, unless you're at some

Speaker 30 legitimate level or there is some big angle or major important piece planned. You don't need goddamn a week's notice on this.

Speaker 30 And apparently, as we're finding out here, and we'll continue with the clip,

Speaker 30 the talent, no matter who they are, have a lot more goddamn input than they ought to. And whether they do something or not, not even how they do it, or can we tweak it this way?

Speaker 30 But I just don't work for me, brother.

Speaker 28 And actually, there may be something else to talk about with that after this, but let's go back to this audio.

Speaker 31 And Tony doesn't make him do it. And so, you know,

Speaker 31 there's a lot of this. And, you know, people aren't going to come forward and talk about it publicly.
They will someday. This is one of those things where people will say I'm wrong now.

Speaker 31 And then, you know, someday people are going to talk and you'll realize I hear about this

Speaker 32 every single day.

Speaker 28 Yeah, by the way, we've said that in the past. One day you guys will all realize that we've been telling the truth about this.
Now they're using that.

Speaker 30 Well, if he's been hearing about it for months, why had he been talking about it?

Speaker 30 Did they hear about the impending war in Europe for for months before they started reporting into papers

Speaker 31 and you know trying to put together these shows is just a whirlwind of can i can this will this person do this they don't want to what can we do will you do it blah blah blah there's a lot a lot a lot of frustration and you know there's also injuries that he deals with And no, there are not shows put together a week in advance or two weeks in advance.

Speaker 32 The days of long-term booking, they're gone.

Speaker 31 He has an idea, you know. I'm sure he has a card for the pay-per-view, but as far as like week to week, how they get there, every week, is like, what are we going to do this week?

Speaker 31 You know, he wants to do things, but people don't want to go along with it, people are hurt, whatever.

Speaker 32 Give me a historical example where, oh, good Lord.

Speaker 30 People's feelings are hurt, it sounds like, more prevalently in AEW than

Speaker 30 their

Speaker 30 physical injuries. But

Speaker 30 I mean,

Speaker 30 it's not like he's making this up, Alvarez here, because he doesn't want to be saying this because it kind of, you know, goes against what Uncle Dave's mission in life has been for the past few years.

Speaker 30 And I'm sure he takes no pride in saying it. But if you have actual open eyes,

Speaker 30 that's why we've been saying it because you can see it.

Speaker 30 And we're not even, you know, talking to all the stooges that Alvarez talks to over there.

Speaker 30 It's just visually observable, right? In the naked public eye.

Speaker 28 Yeah, his stooges are.

Speaker 30 Can you have a naked eye in public?

Speaker 30 Is that against any kind of law?

Speaker 28 No, I think that would be, that would work.

Speaker 30 Okay, I didn't know whether, do you have to cover the retina with a pasty or anything?

Speaker 28 You know, again, it's two different things. The idea that people are upset because they're going to the building and then they don't work.
I can understand that, even though they're being paid.

Speaker 28 And with AEW and all the injuries, you probably do want, at times, all hands on deck or people nearby that can move.

Speaker 28 But the frustration of things getting changed because someone says no, they won't do it, and Tony always caves to that.

Speaker 28 What do you say to that?

Speaker 30 Well,

Speaker 30 you know, obviously,

Speaker 30 that is against the principle of the whole wrestling business, which is, you know, if you're you're going to be a fucking wrestler, you got to do what the booker tells you to do. Of course,

Speaker 30 if there was an ever an instance, I guess, where mutiny may be justified,

Speaker 30 because it's Tony Khan asking them to do shit.

Speaker 30 So you can imagine what some of the stupid shit is that he wants them to do that they won't do when you see some of the stupid shit that shows up on television, right?

Speaker 30 And so I can understand somebody

Speaker 30 or even a number of people wanting to pull the mutiny card like fuck that you know and hang Tony from the highest yadom in the British fleet

Speaker 30 but you can't run a business that way as he as we are observing because

Speaker 30 even if it's rotten he's the boss guess what you know you took the billionaire's money

Speaker 30 and and now you've got to work for the fucking billionaire and yes probably most of the shit he wants you to do is stupid but that's what you're supposed to be doing see they're hearing it now from their sources.

Speaker 28 So they're talking about it still with kid gloves on.

Speaker 28 Well, we've always said from day one, you could have issues with people, you can recognize the problems that people are behind the scenes, whatever it is.

Speaker 28 The true problem isn't Jericho or the Bucks or Omega or CM Punk or Cody or anyone else. It's Tony Khan.

Speaker 28 Tony is not someone

Speaker 28 made for this kind of position despite his love of pro wrestling. We're willing to come out and say that out loud.

Speaker 28 We're willing to admit, because Dave's now in Dave Meltzer in ultra defense mode of anyone who points out that Tony's father is a billionaire and that may have helped Tony get anywhere in life.

Speaker 28 Dave's attacking them and pointing out that Vince McMahon had a dad too or whatever the fuck he's saying.

Speaker 28 But until you acknowledge that the problem is the top, it's the leadership.

Speaker 28 And then you can acknowledge every rung under it that's fucked up and that has been fucked up from day one, from the legal department to the wrestlers causing trouble in the back.

Speaker 28 It all comes from Tony Khan. You got to call it out.
Until you call it out, you're not really saying anything. You're just trying to send him a message so that he makes your friends happy.

Speaker 30 And, you know, then

Speaker 30 also the talent has

Speaker 30 they have been conditioned in this modern era that they're

Speaker 30 actors, movie stars, making a movie, TV stars, doing TV, entertainers, however the fuck they think of themselves,

Speaker 30 that the director should be, you know, consulting with them on their part, and et cetera.

Speaker 30 It's fucking wrestling.

Speaker 30 And as much as I hate to take any slack away from Tony Kahn or take any fucking

Speaker 30 responsibility away from him

Speaker 30 while he's a bad booker, a lot of them are bad fucking wrestlers because they got to either go over this shit or fucking micromanage it or fucking rehearse it or goddamn think and dwell on it or write their material and workshop their whatever the fuck.

Speaker 30 And they want to know,

Speaker 30 you know, a week from Tuesday before the taping,

Speaker 30 the, you know, the exact plan for their six-minute fucking squash match or whatever.

Speaker 30 That's why I was telling you the other day on the phone.

Speaker 30 Again, until really the modern era, the late 90s, when the television production just got so ridiculously complicated and big from the major companies and everything that, you know, it necessitated it from a technical standpoint, everybody getting there early.

Speaker 30 All that shit you see on YouTube with the Horseman and Dusty or the 80s WWF stuff, the guys got to a taping an hour before bell time

Speaker 30 and they looked on the wall and they saw where they were in the

Speaker 30 order of events. And the booker or the booker's representative came over and said, Hey, we want to do this.
You're going to have 12-minute whatever the fuck.

Speaker 30 Talk about this, do that.

Speaker 30 And it, you know, and that was normal.

Speaker 28 They weren't afraid then. And I'm not saying this is a legitimate problem that it should cause this.
The word is that Tony's afraid of booking leaks.

Speaker 28 And that's one of the reasons why no one knows anything is because of all the problems AEW has, that's the one he's concerned about. His ideas leaking before they get to be on TV.

Speaker 30 Well, I don't know whether his ideas would leak or just trickle, maybe drip.

Speaker 30 But and that's something else too. These goddamn blabber mouth fucking wrestlers.

Speaker 30 In those days that I was just talking about.

Speaker 30 The guys didn't,

Speaker 30 the main guys, Flair knew when he was going to have a big match or an angle with Dusty, they'd discuss ahead of time. Or obviously, if you were a champion of

Speaker 30 some prominence, they would tell you out of respect the day that you were dropping it, and you would have input and blah blah blah.

Speaker 30 But we did so much TV and all that stuff, you didn't need to know all that shit in advance because a lot of it you were going to make up anyway. We were not being overproduced and overwritten.

Speaker 30 And

Speaker 30 so there, but

Speaker 30 you need not only a booker that commands commands respect

Speaker 30 and

Speaker 30 that the guys will follow willingly with some discussion on the fine points of what they're asked to do until they, you know, smooth the corners off and come to an agreement instead of wholesale mutiny.

Speaker 30 But on the other side, you need talent.

Speaker 30 that is experienced enough and good enough to take the basic guidelines from the booker instead of a goddamn written script or a fucking fucking step-by-step, blow-by-blow, you know, written-down match skit.

Speaker 30 You take the concept, the talent, and run the play, as Dutch Mantel used to say, and execute it and get it over. And it takes both sides.
And

Speaker 30 unfortunately, because he's, Tony's the shits as a booker, and he's chosen

Speaker 30 in many positions, questionable talent, and he's let some that he had go in favor of some that he ain't got who stayed because they ain't got talent. Boom, you've got a mess.
And this is what this is.

Speaker 30 But you would, some of the

Speaker 30 great matches that people would watch or remember of the

Speaker 30 whatever their childhood fandom was, 60s, 70s, especially 80s TV era on YouTube and 90s attitude era,

Speaker 30 were the bookers sitting down and going, here's what we need to fucking get. What do you guys got? Boom, boom, boom.

Speaker 30 Okay, well, yeah, we're going to go there and I'm going to agree to that and you guys do that. Boom.

Speaker 30 And if it's planned a week from Tuesday every step of the way, then by the time you get there and do it, you're sick of it. That's why there's no spontaneity.

Speaker 28 And that's obviously a problem. A lot of these guys have a schedule, and it's a world of wrestling now,

Speaker 28 whether they're on the indies or here.

Speaker 28 You can plan out a match in advance. You have time.
You know who you're going to work with next month or next week. And you can can do that.

Speaker 28 AEW,

Speaker 28 the wrestling style they promote, maybe that style, but the TV show really is better fit for people who can call it in the ring and do something because of the nature of it.

Speaker 28 Jim, on this topic, because a bunch of listeners have been writing in about this, and I have to say, we've heard from wrestlers in the past who work there, whether fairly or unfairly, because I know Dave Meltzer wrote something similar to this.

Speaker 28 So again, his people are complaining now about

Speaker 28 things we've been hearing for a while, and maybe they have too.

Speaker 28 The idea that there were certain guys who came in, WWE guys,

Speaker 28 and those specifically were the guys that have been causing problems with Tony in terms of not wanting to do anything. Now, I remind you, they may go about it better.

Speaker 28 The young bucks only do what they want to do. So, it's not like it's a problem exclusive to the names that have been thrown out there: the House of Black

Speaker 28 or Miro,

Speaker 28 because it's a company-wide thing.

Speaker 28 But Miro the other day tweeted out, and it got people talking,

Speaker 28 after, I guess, a post about the meat-madness match at the pay-per-view being postponed because two of the slabs of meat are injured.

Speaker 30 Don't bury the lead. Yes, folks.
A meat-madness match is what it was with a bunch of big meaty men is what Tony was promoting. We can't make this up.

Speaker 28 You see, there was a match with two meaty men. I don't even remember which two meaty men it was.
And the fans started chanting meat. So now we have a meat division, apparently

Speaker 28 and they announced three wrestlers for it keith lee and miro were planned to be in it but they are out of action miro tweeted out someone who uh wrote about this i've been injured since september and i got medical attention in january sorry he wasn't aware of it

Speaker 28 So people didn't understand what to take by that. The next tweet, I love Sting.
Watch his last match by the pay-per-view.

Speaker 28 AEW Revolution.

Speaker 28 Now, Miro's also been off TV after

Speaker 28 he was previously off TV.

Speaker 30 Before that, he was off TV.

Speaker 28 Reportedly, at times, he has not wanted to do specific things that Tony Khan has asked him to do. Miro was able to get his wife a job there because that's something that Miro wanted.

Speaker 28 And Tony's all about facilitating what would make people happy as long as it doesn't.

Speaker 28 Make anyone else unhappy. I don't know what guides his weird principles with some of this stuff.
But now he's off TV again. He was supposed to be in this match.
He's saying he's injured.

Speaker 28 Appears to be, again, an example of lack of communication between AEW

Speaker 28 and the wrestlers. But what do you think?

Speaker 30 Hold on, hold on. First of all, he said, I've been injured since September.
I got medical attention in January. What did they find him at the bottom of a ravine?

Speaker 30 How did it take him three months to go?

Speaker 30 No, thank God you got here. I've been here for three fucking months.
Get me the fuck out of here.

Speaker 30 What's he?

Speaker 30 I know English is his second language, and I guess he is Tony Khan. Sorry, he didn't know.

Speaker 30 Well, that's a backhanded slap because how does

Speaker 30 how would he think that he works there and he's been hurt for six months and whatever the fuck? And Tony Kahn wouldn't know.

Speaker 30 But wait a minute, he's been on TV since September. He got hurt in September, so I guess he had medical attention in January.
He hasn't wrestled since then because we haven't seen him.

Speaker 30 So, but Tony would have to know because

Speaker 30 wouldn't he, that the guy is hurt and can't be on TV? Because he hadn't been on TV.

Speaker 28 I've been hurt. Okay, let me book you in a match with the other big, strong guys that are just going to pound the shit out of each other.

Speaker 30 And then,

Speaker 30 have you noticed with Miro?

Speaker 30 The most regularly he's ever been on that television was when he was friends with little Pip Sabian and Penelope Pitstop, and he was wearing a pink Minnie Mouse t-shirt and looked like a complete fucking moron playing with kids over video games.

Speaker 30 You couldn't get rid of him. He was on TV every week for fucking months, it seemed like.

Speaker 30 And finally, when he goes away for whatever reason, comes back and learns a new hold, whatever.

Speaker 30 And then he's a beast and a... Bulgarian brute and he's mad at God.
Well, that's great, but you kind of seem, but you kind of don't. Then he's gone again.

Speaker 30 And then he comes back and he's not only mad at God, but he's pretty much ticked off at his wife and that may be okay and she's there doing

Speaker 30 whatever it is she does because i don't know why anybody would want her to manage them because she's never

Speaker 30 been a great manager for anyone except her violently jealous husband who promises to beat anybody up associated with her So she's just beating the clients off with a stick.

Speaker 30 And then they go away again.

Speaker 30 If he's hurt, does that mean she's hurt too? Is she his fucking familiar somehow?

Speaker 28 We did hear that she had some kind of issue. She was hospitalized a couple of times for.
It was an infection in her finger.

Speaker 30 That was an infection in her fucking finger. Okay, wear gloves, Cruella, and come back and be on TV and be some.

Speaker 30 If they're going to do something just because one's hurt, she could be on TV managing some flunky that he can beat up when he comes back, right?

Speaker 30 I don't understand what's happening here. What is happening here?

Speaker 28 So again, in a situation like this, do you merely hold someone to your contract because you don't want them going to WWE?

Speaker 28 Is that reason enough to do that? And is this the person to do that over?

Speaker 30 I believe you hold them to

Speaker 30 their contract and tell them, okay, we want to do this and we will work with you on the execution of this, but we need this done ultimately in a manner palatable to both of us, whether it's a match with so-and-so or a program with so-and-so.

Speaker 30 We need to put you back on TV. You need to come back to work if you're fucking healthy, which he's been healthy at some point over the past two years that we haven't seen him.

Speaker 30 Everybody said he was mad about the creative.

Speaker 30 And if he doesn't do that, then fucking

Speaker 30 yes, keep him under contract and fine him for not coming and doing as he's told, which is delineated in the contracts.

Speaker 30 And then see

Speaker 30 exactly how long that's going to fucking last before he gets a lawyer and a blah blah blah and then he won't be in the WWF for a fucking year and a half if you goddamn time up

Speaker 30 but it will establish that you're going to ask your employees to do

Speaker 30 what they're fucking supposed to be doing he doesn't have to do a goddamn 60 second job for pockets

Speaker 30 but I can't believe that

Speaker 30 You can't come up with something to do with this fucking guy that's palatable to everybody.

Speaker 30 Does he not want to ever do a job for anybody? Is that what the sticking point is?

Speaker 30 What the fuck is going on?

Speaker 28 I'm not exactly sure.

Speaker 30 But yeah, just tell him: look,

Speaker 30 I'm not going to either let you just take my money and do nothing or just let me let you go so you can go back to work for Vince. You're going to do some shit, or I'm going to start finding you.

Speaker 30 And then you can fucking sue me, and my lawyers will fucking talk to yours, and you won't be wrestling for the next couple of years. Or just fucking

Speaker 30 let's work this out.

Speaker 30 Jesus Christ.

Speaker 28 Well, let's see what happens, but let's uh talk about another thing real quick about AEW if you don't mind me. Uh, it's your show, obviously.

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Speaker 28 But we've had questions about the disciplinary committee. Here's him answering a question, I believe, from Brandon Thurston during his media call the other day about the disciplinary committee.

Speaker 34 Okay, with three minutes to go, the final question and the time for the answer will be Brandon Thurston from WrestleNomics.

Speaker 30 Brandon?

Speaker 28 I was wondering if you could tell us who the members are of AW's discipline committee and do those members have experience in how to handle sexual misconduct claims if they come up?

Speaker 28 That's a great question.

Speaker 28 Yeah,

Speaker 28 we have

Speaker 28 trained professionals on the discipline committee,

Speaker 28 including

Speaker 28 two attorneys and Brian Danielson.

Speaker 28 And Brian, they're different backgrounds and that's the idea to have people from different backgrounds and different experiences in wrestling, which is certainly its own unique business with with its own unique set of challenges do these do these people have names or do they grow from pods

Speaker 28 have

Speaker 28 common goals for the company and for the well-being of the wrestlers and also people that share high integrity and

Speaker 28 the attorneys that i chose and brian danielson i think that's a really strong group of people

Speaker 28 and they would be looking out uh against all misconduct claims.

Speaker 28 Tony chose two attorneys and Brian Danielson. So Tony put the committee together that he always says, oh, it's them.
I have nothing to do with it. He put them there.
He chose two attorneys.

Speaker 28 He says they're highly qualified to deal with sexual harassment. I'd love to know the training that Brian Danielson went in to deal with that.

Speaker 28 But it's his handpicked people, just like for the investigations he did. But let's go back.

Speaker 30 But also, and they're nebulous people.

Speaker 30 If they're going to be

Speaker 30 disciplining these public figures in this big company, shouldn't we say, well, it's Bill and it's Doris over there?

Speaker 28 I wanted the committee to reflect different views in wrestling. So I put Brian Danielson on it.
What?

Speaker 30 That's a different view in wrestling these days.

Speaker 28 And we've tried to train them up

Speaker 28 to do their best, I think, to really, whatever the situation is in terms of misconduct, to do whatever it takes.

Speaker 28 to ensure the well-being of the wrestlers, which is first and foremost here above everything else.

Speaker 34 thank you brandon yeah thanks brandon

Speaker 28 yeah yeah thanks a lot brandon yeah boy thank you you bye brandon

Speaker 28 what are your thoughts there clarifies who's on the uh we don't have the names of these lawyers by the way that's it yeah who's on first which

Speaker 30 if bri every again we talked about this when

Speaker 30 As the whole punk thing was going on and he said, well, you know, he's trying to, Brian's trying to take the heat so that people won't be mad at Tony because they're trying to keep Tony babyface because it'll hurt his feelings if fans get mad at him.

Speaker 30 Brian Danielson, of all of the

Speaker 30 probably people involved on their roster, is the one guy that they're, especially their core audience and most wrestling fans,

Speaker 30 don't want to disrespect, aren't going to fucking hop on too heavy. He can,

Speaker 30 you know, he can smile and he's a nice guy. And he can kind of absorb heat that other people couldn't.

Speaker 30 And I don't think he can come up with anybody else. So the other two are just nameless lawyers, but they're people who work for him.

Speaker 30 So, yes, Brian, from a standpoint of being

Speaker 30 a nice man,

Speaker 30 that's his qualification for this. And who knows?

Speaker 30 Lawyers.

Speaker 30 Lawyers being nice, moral people?

Speaker 30 But you know why? A snake doesn't bite a lawyer, Brian.

Speaker 30 Huh?

Speaker 28 I don't know.

Speaker 30 Professional courtesy. Wow.

Speaker 30 So, you know,

Speaker 30 well, except for him. He's one of the good ones.

Speaker 28 That's right. Yeah.

Speaker 30 There's, there's one, there's one in every crowd.

Speaker 28 Well, that's him. But, you know, just to get you pumped up.

Speaker 30 And by the way, I thought it was the Disciplinary Committee. He can't even pronounce the name of his own bogus commit, the Discipline Committee.

Speaker 30 Sounds like like a fucking band of SM dancers in a strip club.

Speaker 28 Well, to get you pumped up for the pay-per-view, let's hear his closing thoughts here.

Speaker 30 I'd like to hear the last thoughts Tony Khan has.

Speaker 34 And that'll do it for today. Tony, do you have any closing thoughts?

Speaker 28 Yeah, this one is very special to me. I think it's the most special event in the history of AEW for me personally.
And it's the first time

Speaker 28 for me

Speaker 28 it's ever felt so personal to have

Speaker 28 Sting's last match and had it be in AEW and

Speaker 28 to have,

Speaker 28 you know, that's amazing to begin with. But now having spent over three years with Sting and having Sting wrestling

Speaker 28 in AEW regularly for these past few years and getting to know Sting and getting to know Steve.

Speaker 28 Getting to know

Speaker 28 about you. He's an incredible person

Speaker 28 and

Speaker 28 he's one of the all-time greatest wrestlers and we're a young wrestling company, AEW.

Speaker 28 I think

Speaker 28 the fact that Dane has come to AEW and had

Speaker 28 a run that will

Speaker 28 always be remembered by his loyal fans and

Speaker 28 a run that

Speaker 28 will culminate in a final match that I think will be a great match and

Speaker 28 a show that top to bottom

Speaker 28 includes

Speaker 28 matches that in particular I think really eight matches

Speaker 28 that have had

Speaker 28 a lot of established

Speaker 28 television story build a lot of great what is going on with it get to those eight matches and then also within the scramble some rivalries that I'm looking forward to showcase and some stars.

Speaker 28 It should be also a very fun match.

Speaker 30 Oh, now he kicked in.

Speaker 28 I think top to bottom, it's been our best-built pay-per-view. Oh, come on.
Oh, boy. Really, for weeks, the focus has been on these matches and stories.
And

Speaker 28 if the stories aren't good, could it be the best-booked pay-per-view?

Speaker 30 Well, there hasn't been any focus on any fucking thing. None of it's made sense.
It's been a mess.

Speaker 30 And would you compare that with the planning and the execution they at least put into punk and MJF or in some of the MJF's other title matches?

Speaker 28 Cody and Jericho was probably

Speaker 28 better than this.

Speaker 30 You know, but

Speaker 30 here's what I was going to say was

Speaker 30 it almost

Speaker 30 see I don't know.

Speaker 30 He doesn't sound normal here. Normally,

Speaker 30 he's talking like a 45 RPM record on 78, and he won't shut up, and he's bouncing off the wall, and you just don't know whether he's on medication or whether he needs to be on medication to stop him from doing that.

Speaker 30 And now he's gone completely in the opposite direction. Where,

Speaker 30 I mean, you know, my cousin Larry was in a coma last summer. He's talking quicker than Tony now.

Speaker 30 What he's

Speaker 30 grasping for

Speaker 30 a word is again, is he on now finally a medication to control what he's normally like or is he off

Speaker 30 the medication? I don't know.

Speaker 28 Oh, it's daytime. This is a call during the day as opposed to a lot of the late-night media scrums, and he has a lot of energy.

Speaker 30 Wait a minute. This is him in the daytime, but the scrums are him at 2 o'clock in the fucking morning?

Speaker 28 Yeah, this is the middle of the day.

Speaker 30 Jesus Christ, he'd have warned Rick James out.

Speaker 28 Well, let's go back to Super Freak himself, Tony Khan.

Speaker 28 I think it's been one of our best builds to a pay-per-view. There's something about revolution.
It feels like there's always a lot of excitement and buzz

Speaker 28 for this event.

Speaker 28 And

Speaker 28 the first revolution in Chicago is one of my favorite events we've ever done. We've had great revolution shows all over the country, coast to coast.

Speaker 28 But never before have I been more excited

Speaker 28 for revolution or for any show as I am for this this Sunday. And thank you all very much for joining for the media call.
Thank you, Jim and Robin and Mandy for helping organize it. Thank you, Tony.

Speaker 28 And I'm very grateful to all of you and really looking forward to Sunday's Revolution pay-per-view, probably more than anything we've ever done. Thank you very much.
All right.

Speaker 34 Thank you, Tony.

Speaker 30 So this is him at noon.

Speaker 28 This was the middle of the day, yeah.

Speaker 30 What the fuck is going on?

Speaker 28 He hasn't, maybe he just woke up. We don't know what time zone he was in.
Maybe he hasn't had his coffee yet.

Speaker 30 Is that what they're calling it these days?

Speaker 30 It still comes from Colombia.

Speaker 28 Without that Colombian bean, that coffee, it may be tough to have the usual pep in your step that you would have at three in the morning.

Speaker 28 Well,

Speaker 30 naturally, I mean, look at Mr. Bean himself and you need to look no further and to find out when

Speaker 30 your pep needs to be in your step at three o'clock in the morning you know what kind of bean you need

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Speaker 30 All right, well, we're going to continue to power through these audio issues that you tell me that I'm having that I can't hear and you sound fine.

Speaker 30 And I'm goddamn verclimped about the whole thing as I pound on my desk. Do you hear me pounding on the desk?

Speaker 28 I can hear it. It sounds modulated, but I hear it.

Speaker 30 The desk pounding is even modulated?

Speaker 28 It's modulated pounding, yes.

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Speaker 28 What did?

Speaker 30 Think about that. The modulate.
Do you believe in life after love?

Speaker 28 It's auto-tune, and actually, it does sound a little bit like someone's fucking with you with auto-tune, like fucking with your pitch while you're talking.

Speaker 30 Well, see, there you go. We're doing a new thing.
It's going to be the rage of podcasting. Like, do you believe in life after love?

Speaker 30 It's going to take over, and we're on the forefront of it. So look at it that way.

Speaker 30 What I told you earlier, as long as I don't sound like Neil Armstrong from the moon, I think the people will enjoy the program.

Speaker 28 We shall see.

Speaker 30 That was a full-throated endorsement. Yeah, they're going to fucking hate it.

Speaker 28 I'm worried about this audio.

Speaker 30 Oh, well,

Speaker 30 it's been duly noted that you have threatened to cut my carotid artery over my audio today.

Speaker 28 No, I said I would cut the artery in your groin if you didn't fix it. All right, Don.

Speaker 30 Don LaPre, let's go back to our one-bedroom apartment on Fox Television Network on Friday nights. Can we talk about SmackDown for a minute? It ain't going to take long.

Speaker 30 There was only, well, I can't say one segment. It was two.
The first 40 minutes of the program was great, and then there was the rest of the program. Should we talk about that?

Speaker 28 Yeah, let's start with that.

Speaker 30 March the 1st, a red-letter day. Finally,

Speaker 30 The Rock has come back to Glendale/slash Phoenix, Arizona.

Speaker 30 I was not aware that

Speaker 30 I know Phoenix and Scottsdale. I didn't know where there's a lot of dales out there.
Where's Chippendale in Arizona?

Speaker 30 You can't get the Atlas out.

Speaker 30 You're just pissed about my audio. I'm so pissed.

Speaker 28 You have no idea.

Speaker 30 You have no idea. You're just checking out for the rest of the thing.

Speaker 30 But no,

Speaker 30 this was one of the most

Speaker 30 gripping pieces of television that I've seen from anybody, and I don't know how long they've opened up a whole new can of worms with this.

Speaker 30 They start out with the Elimination Chamber package, keep us up to date on what's going on. But then the first thing you see is Roman Reigns, and Paul, and Solo, and Jimmy.

Speaker 30 And they come down, and it takes, you know, the normal four or five minutes for him to get in the ring.

Speaker 30 And Roman does, he asks to be acknowledged, and he ain't happy with the sound of it.

Speaker 30 He's,

Speaker 30 it used to be louder.

Speaker 30 And he tells them again, maybe, you know, it's not me, it's you. I want to hear, acknowledge me.
And

Speaker 30 they're making noise, but he ain't pleased. And he asked one more time, a third time,

Speaker 30 or I'm going to leave, acknowledge me.

Speaker 30 And this was, to me, it was the whole thing, but this especially was great because right off the bat,

Speaker 30 he feels his dominance slipping. His authoriti is being usurped.

Speaker 30 And the big Hollywood mogul has come in here and is stealing his fucking spotlight.

Speaker 30 And with Roman's facial expressions and his body language and the way that he reacts and the inflections in his voice, it was perfect.

Speaker 30 And when he didn't get the reaction he wanted, he's fine.

Speaker 30 My obligations are fulfilled. Fire up the jet wise man this appearance is over we're leaving

Speaker 30 and then paul has to tremble and grovel

Speaker 30 and

Speaker 30 stammer and murmur and you can see the trepidation and the fear in his face

Speaker 30 we can't leave we we have business he he's coming out like it's a fucking

Speaker 30 The the heel protagonist in a Stephen King novel. He's coming out.

Speaker 30 And Roman is disgusted.

Speaker 30 And Paul takes the microphone and introduces, ladies and gentlemen, the most electrifying man, the biggest movie star in the world, blah, blah, blah. The rock is coming out here

Speaker 30 right after this break. And Roman turns away with a disgusted look on his face and he's leaning on the ring ropes.

Speaker 30 That right there,

Speaker 30 that's the best cliffhanger. Instead of dive, somebody goes through a table to the break.
That's a cliffhanger.

Speaker 30 I'm going to stick around to see what the fuck is going to go on now that I see Roman Reigns is upset that the rock is coming out.

Speaker 30 Was that not the thought you had?

Speaker 28 Well, Heyman's done that before, too, where he pitched a commercial from the center of the ring.

Speaker 28 The other thing is, you have to wonder, did they realize they're not going to get another commercial break in for the next 40 minutes?

Speaker 30 Yeah.

Speaker 30 No.

Speaker 30 I timed, actually. I timed it.
It was only, I think, 24.

Speaker 30 but when they came back as soon as they come back from the commercial break the rock music hits and he does his heel walk out

Speaker 30 and he just he can milk just standing there you

Speaker 30 he's another guy like i've always said about jerry lawler you can tell the expression on his face or his

Speaker 30 mental demeanor by his body language, even if you're in the arena and you're behind him.

Speaker 30 And

Speaker 30 right then, and help me, have you heard about the blacking out of the picture and the sound? Have you heard the story on this?

Speaker 28 What was the story on this? Was it because of the sign die, Rocky, die?

Speaker 30 Well,

Speaker 30 I got, I heard two things on the internet. So if they were on the internet, both of them must be true at the same time.

Speaker 30 But I heard they were trying to censor a Die, Rocky, Die sign, but that I still saw it plenty of times. That doesn't make sense.

Speaker 30 But they also, somebody was saying they were trying to not see the Rocky shops at Balco

Speaker 30 sign.

Speaker 30 Balco did help me with what that was.

Speaker 28 I didn't even see that. A Balco?

Speaker 28 Scandal? Yeah, Balco in the Bay Area was where Barry Bonds, the home run king of baseball from the San Francisco Giants, got linked up with them. They are a...
steroid and maybe growth hormone.

Speaker 28 They were a steroid and growth hormone supply company.

Speaker 30 They got in a lot of trouble well they were trying to take something out on the fox network and it was but why would they take the audio out for if they were trying to censor a sign because the the audio and video was going and it was starting to get distracting during the rocks interview what i'm sorry what i think there may have been chants as well that fox didn't approve of and one thought i had watching this was We'll never have to deal with this again in a few months because once they go to cable, you don't have to be so sensitive.

Speaker 28 You don't have to worry about your license being taken away by the FCC.

Speaker 30 Well, yeah. And I, you know,

Speaker 30 on the other network, on the other low-class wrestling program, they don't bleep the fans half the time when they're saying, you fucked up, you fucked up.

Speaker 30 So I know it's a personal network preference and it's broadcasting cable.

Speaker 30 But, you know, goddamn, it was so distracting. Whatever they're doing, they need to tell the fans,

Speaker 30 cut it the fuck out or somebody snatched the sign or whatever because it obviously wasn't the wwe doing it in the truck

Speaker 30 because the rock had no idea that some of his lines weren't getting over

Speaker 30 but uh or weren't going across the broadcast i should say

Speaker 30 But anyway, the network was not happy with some of this, but they had incredible camera angles. Did you see the shot past past Roman looking at the rock

Speaker 30 where it almost looked like they're telling the story that Roman is standing in Rock's shadow and he's not happy about it?

Speaker 30 The way they blocked that whole thing out, that was great. Yeah.

Speaker 30 And Rock announced that Phoenix is the number one city for cocaine and methamphetamine use, you cactus-loving crackheads.

Speaker 30 And again, besides the blackouts being distracting,

Speaker 30 even you, as

Speaker 30 maligning as you have been of The Rock, this was terrible.

Speaker 28 Always telling the truth. Always telling the truth.
This was great. Now, again, he gets away with and gets to say stuff and do stuff that no other wrestler on the roster would be allowed to do.

Speaker 28 He gets to go as long as he wants. He gets a lot of leeway that no one else, advantages, no one else has, but he killed it here.
He was great. Now, some people did complain.
It went too long.

Speaker 28 Me personally, I thought it went by pretty quickly and it was great. Yeah.

Speaker 30 And especially looking at the rest of the program, you'd rather see some of that instead of this. What the fuck?

Speaker 30 And that's the thing. Rock,

Speaker 30 he doesn't just get to go out there and

Speaker 30 say fuck or whip his dangleberry out or whatever, but he gets to do things. He said pro wrestling about 12 times.

Speaker 30 Pro wrestling is cool again and exciting again and electrifying again because of the Rock and Roman Reigns of the bloodline.

Speaker 30 You know, so he gets to say pro wrestling. And

Speaker 30 then he refused Cody's challenge for a one-on-one match. He said, of course, every woman in this arena wants to go one-on-one with The Rock.

Speaker 30 And I mean, the people were eating out of his hand. He got the right reaction.
He got a big reaction on everything, and the right reaction on everything.

Speaker 30 But he challenged, then made the big challenge. How about a tag team match, playa?

Speaker 30 Cody and Seth versus The Rock and Roman Reigns at night one of WrestleMania.

Speaker 30 And the stipulation is if

Speaker 30 Cody and Seth win, no bloodline on Sunday.

Speaker 30 And Roman is still standing there watching this whole monologue of performance going on. And Rock just taking all his spotlight and he's just doing all of his shit.

Speaker 30 And he's now, he's just kind of bemused.

Speaker 30 But then if... Rock and Roman win night one, then on night two, the match with Cody and Roman will be bloodline rules.

Speaker 30 No DQ, anything goes, we can do whatever the fuck we want to to you.

Speaker 30 So

Speaker 30 now, apparently, they're going to get the tag team match on night one, et cetera, et cetera. But

Speaker 30 basically,

Speaker 30 that was the promo there. He says, meet us next week in Dallas, which is sold out, by the way.
Accept the challenge or The Rock is going to do everything to see that you don't win.

Speaker 30 You don't become the champion, and you know where The Rock sits at the board. The Rock is your boss.
There's not a man back there. No vice president, no bleep.

Speaker 30 That one got an audio bleep.

Speaker 30 Can stop me. And the fans started chanting Triple H.
So they've got that fucking going for him.

Speaker 28 What did he get bleeped for there?

Speaker 30 He called him some name of some kind that one would think probably had some type of sexual innuendo. I don't know what the fuck.
I don't think he just said that motherfucker. But apparently,

Speaker 30 they were sensitive about that. But when the fans start chanting Triple H,

Speaker 30 again, now they've got.

Speaker 30 Well,

Speaker 30 we'll analyze everything they've got at the end of this.

Speaker 30 But Rock says: if you don't accept

Speaker 30 this offer, then The Rock and Roman Reigns are going to end your story tragically.

Speaker 30 If you smell

Speaker 30 and Roman stops him as he's bent over, Roman puts the fucking hand out on the microphone.

Speaker 30 And

Speaker 30 everybody fucking pauses and Rock looks up and Paul is aghast.

Speaker 30 I mean, his eyes are bugged. He looked like a bullfrog.
Or actually, bullfrogs are more physically fit than Haman is at this point in his moribund physical activity, you know, lifetime.

Speaker 28 Why?

Speaker 30 Well, just because I'm just calling out the obvious, but he was fucking perfect with that face.

Speaker 30 And then time stands still as everybody's rumbling, and it was perfect. What's going to happen here? And Roman has been stewing about this, you can tell through the whole thing.

Speaker 30 And he says to the rock, I need something from you. I'll do anything for my family, but I need this one thing.

Speaker 30 Acknowledge me.

Speaker 30 And there was lots of milking tension there. And I think they bleeped bleeped some more of the fans.

Speaker 30 And then finally, the rock said, Roman Reigns, my family, I acknowledge you as my tribal chief. And they did the handshake and the hug.
And now the fans are chanting, you sold out, you sold out.

Speaker 30 And The Rock says, this is family, and we will do anything for family. If you smell,

Speaker 30 and then he hands the mic to Roman, and Roman says, What the bloodline is cooking.

Speaker 30 Holy shit, now

Speaker 30 not only do they have ongoing tension between The Rock and Triple H that doesn't have to culminate in any kind of match because it's a battle of stars that are also in leadership positions.

Speaker 30 But now they got the tag match for night one.

Speaker 30 They get The Rock and his involvement in WrestleMania. And then what in the world?

Speaker 30 They can do the Rock talks this whole fucking game up, and then he fucking somehow

Speaker 30 this plan backfires, and Roman has to face Cody at night two in a fair fight, and then loses, and then is mad at fucking Rock.

Speaker 30 Or is goddamn

Speaker 30 or The Rock's plan wins, and Cody overcomes everything at night two.

Speaker 30 But in the process of doing that,

Speaker 30 you know,

Speaker 30 there's tension now forming between The Rock and Roman that could lead to the summertime. Or

Speaker 30 I mean, there's so many different avenues here of what the fuck is going to go on.

Speaker 28 They've set up Heyman potentially being a sympathizer with The Rock as opposed to Roman Reigns here.

Speaker 30 Yes.

Speaker 30 Whose side will the Walrus be on? The Walrus was Paul.

Speaker 28 The Walrus always goes with the biggest star. So it creates an interesting dynamic.

Speaker 28 And The Rock...

Speaker 28 Well, go ahead.

Speaker 30 I was just going to say, but there's so many different ways they can go. Go ahead.
I'm sorry.

Speaker 28 And The Rock is now trying to establish, he did a 20-minute video on Twitter, but I didn't get to watch it because it was 20 minutes and I was busy, but everyone raved about it.

Speaker 28 It was kind of a dry run for what he did at SmackDown for 40 minutes.

Speaker 30 No, I've got it written down right here. It was 22 minutes from the time The Rock's music played till the end of that segment.

Speaker 28 They have now got it to the point where The Rock is trying to convince everyone that this was all his plan to manipulate Cody and screw everything up. And, you know, the fan reaction was all whatever.

Speaker 28 They're trying to play into it, and they should. And they're doing a great job with it.

Speaker 28 But if that's the case, he's going to do the same thing to Roman. This was my plan.
And that's the thing. I guess that's my question.

Speaker 28 Are we at the point now where we're months away from a Roman Reigns babyface turn because The Rock steals the bloodline in Amon? Is that the right thing to do? Because

Speaker 28 certainly The Rock shouldn't shouldn't go back to being a baby face anytime soon because this is what I've been saying. This is what he should be doing.

Speaker 30 Well, and that's why I think we are

Speaker 30 the Rain's babyface turn doesn't have to

Speaker 30 be predicated on the rock stealing the bloodline.

Speaker 30 Because Paul's an opportunist. He's going to stick around and, you know, wait to see who comes out on top of this probably.

Speaker 30 Or potentially he would go with the rock, obviously, to add extra heat, but this may be part of the rock's plan

Speaker 30 at some point to to give a catalyst to turn Roman babyface, because when those two larger-than-life personalities and egos explode, you may be, you'll, you'll get that match. And also,

Speaker 30 Roman would obviously be the one to be babyface because the rock would have gotten him into a lot of this. So

Speaker 30 then

Speaker 30 the question is: Paul can,

Speaker 30 the rock doesn't have to steal the bloodline because he's not going to be wrestling or in the ring on a regular basis.

Speaker 30 And I don't think he wants to commit to months and months of coming and doing their promos.

Speaker 30 But Paul could still be with Solo,

Speaker 30 and Roman could be a huge fucking babyface at some point, wherever, whatever that point is.

Speaker 28 Well, great opening segment and

Speaker 28 you know it ate up 40 plus minutes of the show

Speaker 28 but no one you didn't you didn't really miss anything and when you saw this followed up with a few of the women's segments like yeah you know i know they have fans for those but i was able to take a break because i was like 40 minutes i need to go see what's going on but they held me but as soon as that segment was over i was like i have to leave the room for a bit but they gave me good reason I must admit, I watched this segment twice because I enjoyed it so much.

Speaker 30 So to make up for that, I skipped most of the rest of the show where Tiffany wrestled Naomi and Bailey and Dakota wrestled Oscar and Carrie.

Speaker 30 Braun Breaker wrestled Zion Quinn and beat him with a spear in five seconds. That was the only move.
It looked like a million dollars doing it.

Speaker 30 Carlito and Escobar had a street fight that remember when we said, well, that might be an interesting match to see?

Speaker 30 It wasn't.

Speaker 28 You know, I liked it.

Speaker 28 I watched it. I watched it with a...

Speaker 30 It was like they couldn't even figure out what they they were doing.

Speaker 28 I watched it with a room full of people, and I was doing running commentary, and it was a lot of fun.

Speaker 30 Well, that's because you were entertaining.

Speaker 28 It was fun. Yeah, I had a good time.

Speaker 30 Well, the main event, we'll get to it without further ado, was something that I, when I heard about it, I said, well, I'll watch that, Randy Orton and Austin Theory.

Speaker 30 And

Speaker 30 I swear to God.

Speaker 30 As soon as they rang the bell, Orton took over and Theory's bumping like a super ball and Waller distracts Orton and Theory posts him and drops him on the desk and they go to the break in a minute and a half.

Speaker 30 I've had you.

Speaker 30 And by the time they came back, there was, I think, seven minutes left on the air at that point.

Speaker 30 And immediately, Theory is going to the top rope and Orton goes up and catches him and goes for a superplex. But as Orton...

Speaker 30 went to step up to the top rope with his right foot and Theory was stepping up to the top so they'd have to come off the top they can't come off the second rope we've gone over this a million times orton's right foot slips off the top rope and he loses his balance and jumps down and lands on his feet but since theory was stepping up at the same time theory thought that he was going and he gave himself the superplex and somehow in in middle of that

Speaker 30 Orton went with it and they they landed perfectly without anybody getting hurt. That was the most out-of-control thing I've ever seen to actually end up well.

Speaker 30 And then Orton popped up to his feet and put his arms out, like, oh, well, you know, it worked in rehearsal.

Speaker 30 So a big comeback drops him on the desk, drops Waller on the desk, gives Theory the DDT.

Speaker 30 milks the RKO. They go back and forth a little bit more.
And then finally,

Speaker 30 Theory goes for the roll and dropkick and Orton hits the RKO. Boom.

Speaker 30 One, two, three. There was not six minutes of this match that made air.

Speaker 30 And then Waller attacked Orton and Kevin Owens came in from color and

Speaker 30 he gave a stunner to Theory where he popped up into goddamn orbit. And then Orton RKO'd Waller.
And the heels scampered away with their tails between their legs.

Speaker 30 It's not easy to get heat on this program unless you're the bloodline.

Speaker 30 Because those pesky baby faces will just kick the ever-loving shit out of you.

Speaker 30 But I wanted to like that, but there wasn't anything there.

Speaker 28 No, that was SmackDown, a one-segment show. I mean, Braun Breaker's debut was cool, but it was like second, or not debut, but a second match, and that was seconds.

Speaker 28 But it was a one-match show.

Speaker 30 Well, no, it wasn't a one-match show because

Speaker 30 that was two segments

Speaker 30 because they went to a break before Rock came out so they'd have more time. So, actually, it was a 40-minute show that took two hours.
How's that?

Speaker 28 That's SmackDown.

Speaker 30 Well, what in the world is going on at the Arcadian Vanguard Podcast Network this fine week, Brian?

Speaker 28 Hey, another fine week of programming on the Arcadian Vanguard Podcast Network. News about all the shows on Twitter, at Super Podcasts, or on Facebook.
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Speaker 28 Want to make mention of Shut Up and Wrestle with Brian Solomon. He has had a series of excellent episodes.

Speaker 28 They're all excellent, but talking to former Titan Tower employees, his colleagues, because he worked there, so former co-workers from Titan Towers, and maybe now more than ever, it's interesting to hear stories about what it was like to work there.

Speaker 28 Hear that today. Look for SUAWPod.com or Shut Up and Wrestle with Brian Solomon, wherever you find your favorite podcasts.
And of course, the 605 Super Podcast, the Mothership.

Speaker 28 Well, I just didn't have it today, but go through the archive, 605pod.com, available wherever you find your favorite podcasts, The Mothership.

Speaker 30 You had it, but you lost it.

Speaker 30 Your get up and go got up and went.

Speaker 28 That's right. Like Tony without his Medicaid, his coffee.

Speaker 30 Well, Brian, we finished with the big news in the world of the WWE. There's not much going on there.

Speaker 30 They're just selling out buildings in advance and going to have the biggest WrestleMania of all time. Got a major motion picture and television star working for them.

Speaker 30 And everything's just in the shitter over there, I guess. But in AEW, the future is so bright they got to wear shades, especially to cover those massively dilated pupils.

Speaker 30 But before we can talk about the pay-per-view,

Speaker 30 we must give people the

Speaker 30 last stop,

Speaker 30 the last chance saloon on the road to revolution, which was AEW Wednesday Night Dynamite on February, was that the 28th or 20th? Yeah, 28th. We had a 29th this year.

Speaker 30 Threw everybody into turmoil. So this was February 28th from Huntsville, Alabama, the birthplace of beautiful Bobby Eaton, the current home of lover boy Dennis Condry.

Speaker 30 Apparently, a very big building with a big stage and a big screen and a small crowd.

Speaker 30 Do you have the statistics on how many people were in that fucking building?

Speaker 28 I will pull them up right now. Hold on.
That was dynamite. The final count.
According to WrestleTicks,

Speaker 28 for Wednesday, February 28th, 6.30 p.m.

Speaker 28 3,413 tickets distributed.

Speaker 30 I would have never imagined they had 3,400 people. How big is that building?

Speaker 28 And by the way, they were up in the market. Previously, they were there.
February of 2020, they did 2,900.

Speaker 28 And for the house rule show, whatever that may be, June 3rd, 2023, 2,237.

Speaker 30 Good lord,

Speaker 30 I guess things are looking up.

Speaker 28 Well, Sting's last appearance on Dynamite, so obviously that would cause a little bit of a surge.

Speaker 30 Well, how big is the building? Because that's not the old Von Braun Civic Center down here, is it? It looked like a big, one of these big, new modern type of places.

Speaker 28 It's the Propst Arena. Probst?

Speaker 28 Hold on. A propst? I don't know.
P-R-O-P-S-T. What do you call that?

Speaker 30 Propst?

Speaker 30 I don't have any idea. At least you don't get probed when you go in.
That's just when you buy your tickets.

Speaker 28 Hold on. I'm looking for the propst arena in Huntsville.
It is

Speaker 28 8,300 people is the capacity.

Speaker 30 Well, good lord, then they couldn't make a half-filled building look good because they only had one way to shoot and they shot that same way all night.

Speaker 30 Am I exaggerating this? They shot three sections of the fucking far side of the bleachers all night.

Speaker 28 And actually, that was the excuse me, that was the Von Braun Center. I actually looked up.

Speaker 30 Oh, now, wait, now you're okay. Now, so that's the capacity of the Von Braun Center.
Yes. Named after Werner von Braun, the

Speaker 30 space age rocket pioneer.

Speaker 28 This is managed by Saul Weingroff. Oh, no, the Prost Arena.
excuse me. Here we go.
The Von Braun Center comes up every time I Google this for whatever reason.

Speaker 28 I don't know if they are, what do they say, but it is,

Speaker 28 according to this, a 10,000-seat building.

Speaker 30 Oh, God. I don't care at this point.

Speaker 30 So the show starts out.

Speaker 30 And here comes Hangnail Page limping to the fucking ring with his crutch. And

Speaker 30 Brian, you've had some knee injuries. I've had some knee injuries.
We both spent some time on crutches. Was hangnail using the crutch wrong?

Speaker 30 Don't you use the crutch on the opposite side of the injury?

Speaker 28 Actually, it depends. Sometimes they tell you to use it on the side of the injury if they're just stupid.

Speaker 28 If they're stupid.

Speaker 28 No, you...

Speaker 28 He was coming out there with the angry hangman walk just having a crutch in hand.

Speaker 30 Well,

Speaker 30 anyway, he did a fake sad promo. He got horse shit bleeped.

Speaker 30 So they're cracking down over there too. And he tried to milk that he was pulling out of the match and he said that he wouldn't be able to compete.

Speaker 30 And it's and I mean, everybody already knows it's like a foregone conclusion because it's already been out on the internet and all of these fans going to AEW.

Speaker 30 One thing we do know is they've got good internet.

Speaker 30 They did that goofy angle where he was injured because

Speaker 30 he had an an unexplained family situation that he may or may not have had to attend to while the pay-per-view was going on. So they did an injury angle just in case he didn't make it.

Speaker 30 But then it cleared up. So now, as we'll find out, he's going to make it.

Speaker 30 But he says basically, no, I can't compete at the pay-per-view, even though everybody's rolling their eyes because it's been out on the internet. So here comes Swerve.

Speaker 30 And he tries to talk, but the fans are chanting for him, the noted baby terrorizer.

Speaker 30 And

Speaker 30 it sounded to me also when they would speak on the PA mic in the ring like they had the public address system in the building turned way down so they wouldn't get an echo from the empty seats.

Speaker 30 Because it was just like

Speaker 30 on a talk show,

Speaker 30 you can hear the

Speaker 30 people talking on their microphones, but there's no arena sound because they're in a fucking studio. It sounded in the ring like they were in a studio.

Speaker 28 Anyway, it was awkwardly silent at times. And

Speaker 28 I heard from people who said the crowd was into it,

Speaker 28 but at times they were just dead silent. And

Speaker 28 it gives it a weird vibe when that happens.

Speaker 30 Well, remember a couple of weeks ago when one heckler in the fucking cheap seats threw Swerve off because the whole building popped when everybody heard him.

Speaker 30 But Swerve says he's going to be the champion at the pay-per-view, and then Joe's music plays.

Speaker 30 And he comes out and laughs at his enemies hugging it out. And he does a good promo, which Joe always does, but nobody gives a shit about this sad situation.

Speaker 30 And when Swerve fires up and responds to Joe,

Speaker 30 he tells him off. And then Paige

Speaker 30 wallops Swerve with his crutch. He's not hurt.
It was all a Swerve, Swerve.

Speaker 30 And then he swears he's going to be the champion. But in the meantime, Swerve is

Speaker 30 He sold two shots with an aluminum crutch bigger than these other guys. Sell a bump off the top rope through a fucking table.

Speaker 30 So Swerve was down. Paige is swearing he's going to be the champion.
Joe's laughing at everybody. Whatever the.

Speaker 28 I've been telling you for weeks that Paige was the heel.

Speaker 28 What do you think now? Well,

Speaker 30 I mean, he is, but nobody still cares.

Speaker 30 But it's.

Speaker 30 Oh, oh, Christ, on a cracker.

Speaker 28 When Tony talks about,

Speaker 28 in his mind, this being the strong build-up to a pay-per-view, the strongest they've ever had, I think he may have said.

Speaker 28 And this is obviously one of the key programs there.

Speaker 28 Samoa Joe having to deal with Swerve, Swerve and Adam Page still having their issues from the breaking and entering and the blood drinking and everything else that took place in their relationship so far.

Speaker 28 I mean, it's there and it's been happening. So there's a story.
You can't say there's no story.

Speaker 28 But has this been done well?

Speaker 30 There's a story here. It's just, it's, it's, you know, a story being told by

Speaker 30 a person who doesn't have a fucking really good linear thought process going on, and with some people, that

Speaker 30 either the fans don't care about or they don't care about in this particular combination because it was backed into ass sideways.

Speaker 30 But speaking of backing into things ass sideways, the show-long

Speaker 30 thread that ran through this,

Speaker 30 the buckaroos show up and

Speaker 30 they're looking for Sting.

Speaker 30 One's wearing his pink suit, one's wearing his black suit. They've got white baseball bats.

Speaker 30 And they tell Rene Moxley Good that they're looking for Sting, and they grab one of the camera guys to follow him like, you see, follow us, cameraman, and watch what we're going to do.

Speaker 30 And this is going to go throughout the

Speaker 30 festivities here this evening. Wonderful fashions on the Buckaroos.

Speaker 30 Then we got to the six-man tag team match, Brian.

Speaker 28 And I thought it would never end.

Speaker 28 It went 43 minutes.

Speaker 30 FTR and Kingston

Speaker 30 against Danielson, Claudio, and Plumber Moxley, the BBC.

Speaker 30 They shot a quote-unquote angle for this on collision and showed highlights to set this thing up.

Speaker 30 And

Speaker 30 first of all, do you remember when FTR's music would hit and they would enter a year ago, a year and a half ago, the people would stand up, they would pop and cheer. They were over.

Speaker 30 They were having all these great matches. The Briscoes, people are in it.
Well,

Speaker 30 no more of that.

Speaker 30 Kingston is now the most popular one on that, on the babyface team here. And

Speaker 30 while the problem was,

Speaker 30 FTR had great matches to get the cheers.

Speaker 30 Kingston is getting cheers, but his matches are going to be shit because instead of working the gimmick that he ought to have of being a kick-ass character babyface a la hacksaw Jim Duggan.

Speaker 30 He's instead decided that he's the second coming of Antonio Inoki, and he's wrapped up in doing all this Japanese bullshit.

Speaker 28 I think it's more Kawada, I had to say, than Anoki. Well, I'd say more all Japan than New Japan.

Speaker 30 Kawada didn't really roll off the end of my tongue. But

Speaker 30 the point is: see, you got Kingston trying to do this goofy shit. FTR has been neutered.

Speaker 30 Claudio is a non-entity now. Danielson makes weird choices in his career over

Speaker 30 his last year in the full-time business.

Speaker 30 And then you got Moxley, who we have established, it is not possible to have a good professional wrestling match with this fucking clown associated in any way, shape, or form.

Speaker 30 And it didn't take him two minutes before he crossed the line from shitty to unprofessional. He acts like a badass.
He won't sell anything that Cash was doing.

Speaker 30 Cash could drop him. We've seen Cash drop people.

Speaker 30 You look at Cash and look at fucking Moxley. Moxley looks like a goddamn science experiment in medical college.

Speaker 30 Yeah, we was floating in the river for three days. We don't really know who he was.
Nobody claimed him. Let's cut him up.

Speaker 28 And I should cut myself up.

Speaker 30 Thank you. Just use the zipper.

Speaker 30 But see, you got a fucking middle-aged wino working like Andre the Giant with these guys. And then for no reason, they just broke into a six-way and went to the floor and went to the break.

Speaker 30 And they did the picture-in-picture. So as I was zipping through to the next segment, you could see they were on the floor for the whole break.

Speaker 30 But when they come back up on television, they're in the ring with a fucking hold.

Speaker 30 And Moxley tried to get an Indian death lock and didn't know how. And Cash still had to fucking sit in it like he was in something.

Speaker 30 Did Did you see that he wasn't in anything?

Speaker 28 Cincinnati, dead fuck.

Speaker 30 Well,

Speaker 30 at least

Speaker 30 he could get Skyline Chili as a sponsor. For the folks up there in Cincinnati, you're just loving that.

Speaker 30 So

Speaker 30 they give Dax a hot tag. He makes a comeback.
They stop him. They get more heat.
Everybody goes to the floor. The whole BBC team is burying not only the babyfaces, but the ref.

Speaker 30 They're just in there constantly. And then they're another break.

Speaker 30 And then they come back and they bury them again. They're constantly all in the ring, three at a time.
The referee standing there with his fucking dick in his hand.

Speaker 30 The babyfaces, there's three of them, but the other two apparently aren't supposed to come in and help yet.

Speaker 30 And then Kingston got a tag and didn't make a comeback. He and Danielson just stood in the middle of the ring and traded chops without him him selling them.

Speaker 30 And then he and the plumber get face to face and they dramatically grab each other by the scruff of the collar and have a hockey fight.

Speaker 30 32 punches

Speaker 30 that not only looked as fake as fuck and that weren't landing, but that nobody sold anyway.

Speaker 30 They just grabbed each other, hugged each other, and pistoned their right hand in the vicinity of each other while they were otherwise immobile.

Speaker 30 And then they go back to triple team and Kingston incessantly in front of the referee and FTR laying on the floor because they're not supposed to come in yet.

Speaker 30 And then the babyfaces came in and triple teamed the BBC while the referee stood there aghast, agape, and his arms akimbo.

Speaker 30 How's that for alliteration?

Speaker 28 Akimbo slice.

Speaker 30 Akimbo slice. He was a badass son of a bitch.

Speaker 30 And then they did a six-way with the referee dumbfounded, and all the guys were in quicksand because they were all doing the fake elbows. And Moxley's looked the worst.

Speaker 30 It was the pace of a crippled crab at this point.

Speaker 30 Then Kingston and Dax did the silly fake chop chest slap thing. And then all three of them did it.
They got in the corner where they...

Speaker 30 They, it looks like a sissy slap fight with eight-year-old girls where they're slapping the guy's chest, but they're also slapping themselves with the other hand over and over.

Speaker 30 And nobody is being damaged by any of this. It just looks stupid.

Speaker 30 And then something I've never seen before in 52 years of watching wrestling.

Speaker 30 All three of the heels

Speaker 30 gave all three of the baby faces the 10 punches in the corner.

Speaker 30 And it was still a big six-way because there wasn't a tag for like a five-minute period.

Speaker 30 And it they're just and

Speaker 30 and then and again with ftr who are the most scrupulous about tag team rules and continuity but they you can't overcome the curse of moxley

Speaker 30 the plumber's curse the billy goat's curse

Speaker 30 you know what he ought to get tights where when he bends over his ass crack shows to accentuate his character crack it

Speaker 30 here Here was the finish.

Speaker 30 The other four are all on the floor selling for no reason, just completely out of this.

Speaker 30 And Danielson walks up to Kingston, who's laying on the ground, and he just stomps him seven times and then gets a head scissors on him.

Speaker 30 And the referee stopped it.

Speaker 30 What took 23 minutes bell to bell plus the fucking entrances.

Speaker 30 And the only way that I can figure out a way that this could have been a worse wrestling match is if it was longer, because it seemed like it anyway, as you mentioned.

Speaker 30 This took the same amount of time that the Rocks interview.

Speaker 30 And I was ready to goddamn jump off a bridge to get this thing to end.

Speaker 30 Help me.

Speaker 28 There is no help in you, or there was no help in me either for this one. I did not like it.

Speaker 28 Every Moxley match turns into a Moxley match. The BCC,

Speaker 28 the concept doesn't work.

Speaker 28 It's just so stupid. They've made me sick of FTR.
I didn't think it would happen.

Speaker 28 They've made me sick of FTR.

Speaker 28 And I want to like Eddie Kingston. I'm not saying, like you do, that he should be the modern hacksaw Duggan.
I mean, these guys are going to work the modern way. Oh,

Speaker 30 his matches now are certainly fucking sparkling examples of professionalism.

Speaker 28 But the problem is,

Speaker 28 you know, for everyone that made fun of like FTR in the past by being a tribute act at times to the Hart Foundation or the Midnight Express or Tolian Arn, whatever it may be, and there's certainly big influences, you would think, on FTR.

Speaker 28 With Kingston, it's worse for this 1990s Japanese wrestling, which I love, like he does, just because

Speaker 28 he's not doing it the way Kawada did it.

Speaker 28 Probably shouldn't either. He'll take a lot of life off your opponent in the long run and kill your own knees too and

Speaker 28 But the point is, it doesn't like it's it's honorable that he likes it so much that he wants it to be his style,

Speaker 28 like in the traditional Shaw Brothers films kind of way.

Speaker 28 It's very honorable that he wants to serve his master and work his style and work the kibashi chops in the corner, but it makes you not like Eddie Kingston in the ring.

Speaker 30 Maybe he ought to get a contract with Golden Harvest, not AEW.

Speaker 28 You know, he throws the best punch.

Speaker 28 I said this to you years and years and years years ago at a ring of honor show when you were working for those chumps i was over there and i said to you because i'd never seen any kingston before i'd never heard him talk i said that guy looks like a real new york guy he's the only guy in this whole show that could throw a punch and it looked great he doesn't punch he chops yeah now he's throwing fake chops but no i didn't like this match i i really really really didn't like this match no

Speaker 30 Well, I'll tell you, there's a big game changer next, though. This is going to change the whole game, Brian.
I'm telling you, because Tony Schiavone was in the ring,

Speaker 30 they have brought in CM Punk. They have brought in Edge.
They have brought in,

Speaker 30 well, a number of other big stars.

Speaker 28 The Hardys, individuals. The Hardies.

Speaker 30 Nobody got a big build-up from Tony Schiavone like this. I mean, he almost, thankfully, he was wearing his truss because otherwise he might have hurt himself.
And he introduced Will Ostrich.

Speaker 30 And here comes,

Speaker 30 well, him too.

Speaker 30 And here he comes. And apparently, and I can't get on him for this because I was going to.

Speaker 30 He came down wearing a track suit.

Speaker 30 But accordingly, we find out in his promo that the airline lost his bags. So here I am.
So that was.

Speaker 30 That wasn't his fault. The airline lost his bags.
He had to wear this.

Speaker 30 But he comes out. He's shaking hands with the fans.
He's smiling. He's a member of the Don Fallus family, as you'll recall.

Speaker 30 But when he comes out, he's just as happy as a clam to be there.

Speaker 30 And coincidentally, he's facing another member of the Don Fallus family at the pay-per-view, our boy Take.

Speaker 30 And remember when we said, why are they making this match? That's never been explained otherwise than

Speaker 30 Don

Speaker 30 wants them to have the greatest match of the decade that anybody's ever seen.

Speaker 30 And that's supposed to be an explanation for why that this evil manager would want to create dissension and tension in his stable by having two of them fight each other, which would do him no good at all.

Speaker 30 They've realized, fuck, we got no baby faces. We already painted ourselves in a corner because we can't think think more than a fucking 72-hour period ahead.
So we made Ostrich a heel.

Speaker 30 But the people like him because for the kind of people who like that kind of thing, these are the kind of people we sell tickets to.

Speaker 30 And so since we don't have any other baby faces, they're not booing out of the building in favor of our heels, we should make him a baby face.

Speaker 30 So

Speaker 30 now he comes out and he does this promo. I'm glad I'm here.
And everybody's cheering. He says, I finished my commitments with New Japan Pro Wrestling.
I went on vacation.

Speaker 30 And at first, I thought he said, I pissed on the Mizes, but he said, no, I got pissed with the Mizes.

Speaker 30 And now, folks, for those of you in the United States of America watching the television.

Speaker 28 This is not what we need you explaining British talk. This is.
Well, no,

Speaker 30 that means he got drunk with the Mizes.

Speaker 30 Getting pissed with the Mizes in the United Kingdom means you got drunk with the Mizes, not you got mad at her.

Speaker 28 Well, I'm just... Getting pissed with the Mizes is what happens in the Brock Lesnar home every Thursday night.
Now, come on now.

Speaker 30 His name was never mentioned.

Speaker 30 But anyway, so that's what Will Will was not mad at his wife. He's mad at the airline for losing his bags.
And he talked about he's beaten Pockets. He's beaten Twinkletoes.
He's beaten Jericho.

Speaker 30 And now he's rolling with the Don Fallus family. And here comes Don and Hobbs and Take.

Speaker 30 And see, they're very intricate storytelling here because Don and Hobbs both hug Ostrich, but Take doesn't.

Speaker 30 And that's where Don does the promo again. They're going to have the match of the decade.
It doesn't matter which one wins. The will will win her.
The real winner is the family.

Speaker 30 Like when Scotty Pippen and Michael Jordan would fight and practice, and then they'd come together and friend. This doesn't make any sense.
Just say, we fucked up. You like this guy.

Speaker 30 We can't have the people cheering another one of our arch fucking heels.

Speaker 30 But anyway, he tells

Speaker 30 Will and Take to shake hands, and they do.

Speaker 30 But Take won't let go.

Speaker 30 And then Will won't let go. And then they went nose to nose.

Speaker 30 And then they all left.

Speaker 30 Brian, I'll leave you with this thought.

Speaker 30 As far as changing the game,

Speaker 30 big-time fucking talent, free agent signing, whatever.

Speaker 30 Tony Kahn got Will Ostrich and the WWE got Braun Breaker. Need I say more?

Speaker 28 I like Osprey. I think Osprey's really good.
I think Osprey's a great asset as long as his body holds up. WWE would have wanted him.

Speaker 28 Tony apparently paid through the nose, or maybe that's not the expression.

Speaker 30 Now, most of his money goes up the nose.

Speaker 28 No, let's not say that either.

Speaker 28 But Tony paid a lot for him and is giving him the opportunity to have a good Will Ospreay lifestyle. He's really good.

Speaker 28 The booking around him, you could question, and we'll see what you think when you actually start watching him. I thought Takesho was great in this.

Speaker 28 And that's really about it. Hobbs is a non-entity again, even though he's with this group.
They come out, they have the evil devious music for Callus, and he comes out there with his group.

Speaker 28 And it's like a character of a bad guy heel manager.

Speaker 28 And

Speaker 28 it's the ironic booze. Yeah.
So it's like a fake heel thing. And then you realize every promo he does, he can talk, but he's set, like he's explaining gibberish.
Like nothing ever makes sense.

Speaker 28 Why is any of this happening? Here's his explanation. All right.
This isn't exactly Bill Watts explaining something. I don't know what this fucking guy's saying.

Speaker 30 Well, and also, you kind of hit it in that it's a caricature in that it's obvious that this guy is playing a part so that you will dislike him from the picture on the Tron of him and the Last Supper with the fan and just everything they do.

Speaker 30 It's

Speaker 30 we're winking at you here because we're, you know, it's almost like he's snadly whiplashed. He's going to foreclose on the orphanage.
It's just comedic, but it's not funny.

Speaker 28 With that said,

Speaker 28 they're bringing Will Osprey in. He's going to be there long term.
He's got a big contract.

Speaker 28 You need top stars. Specifically, right now, you need top babyfaces.
He apparently excelled as a heel in Japan and wherever in Ring.

Speaker 28 And

Speaker 28 if you're going to bring him in and you're going to try to immediately, because AEW has never really done this successfully, immediately elevate someone once they come in so that they go to the top and stay at the top,

Speaker 28 is this a good way to switch it around and start that up?

Speaker 30 I lost your question around the far turn.

Speaker 28 It must have been the internet connection.

Speaker 30 But

Speaker 30 I think that obviously what's going to happen is Don is going to turn on or stab in the back or whatever Osprey when push comes to shove or Will will you know

Speaker 30 rebel against disrespect or bad treatment or whatever and get out of that and then I think the best thing would be for good old Will to not wrestle any of these motherfuckers you know put him in the ring put the fucking belt on him what difference does it make

Speaker 30 because you know

Speaker 30 get something out of your investment at least put one motherfucker over from the fucking start where he comes in and beats some main event people Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 28 Well, yeah, but you know, but you got to sacrifice Takeshta. That's the problem.
Again.

Speaker 30 Well, sacrifice him from what? He's on life support right now. He stands there dumbfounded while the fake bald guy does all the fucking talking.

Speaker 28 He's thinking to himself, these guys all told me it'd be a better idea to sign here than WWE.

Speaker 30 So, I mean, you know, push somebody and see what happens. But

Speaker 30 I don't know whether they will or not.

Speaker 30 So the Lollipop Guild was still in the back asking around for Sting.

Speaker 30 They asked Kingston if he's seen Sting, and then they fake threatened to fine him for knocking him in a promo and looking like a slob.

Speaker 30 And they,

Speaker 30 to make sure that we remember that they've got their own cameraman with them, they shoot the cameraman, the handheld guy, in the shot at the interview set, which

Speaker 30 is what never, you'd never see that in television.

Speaker 30 So by showing that, they show they've still got the cameraman held hostage, even though he could just put this goddamn thing down and just leave if he wasn't.

Speaker 28 Man, they can't punch. They got their ass kicked by CM Punk.
What are they going to do with those baseball bats? Come on.

Speaker 30 And then

Speaker 30 the point is they're executive vice presidents of the company. They're going to take a ball bat to the fucking cameraman.
Let me be that cameraman.

Speaker 28 Where's the disciplinary committee?

Speaker 30 I'll sue it. Yeah.
I'll sue them, get the disciplinary committee on them, and I'll live in Tahiti for the rest of my life.

Speaker 30 Anyway, at the 9 o'clock hour, we had the Dollar General Store Championship on the line with Pockets against Nick Plains.

Speaker 30 So now you've got the company mascot, an unfunny joke that is an embarrassment to the fucking state of professional wrestling against an 18-year-old kid with a mope face.

Speaker 30 And they gave him 15 minutes to set the fucking business on fire and set it back about 30 years.

Speaker 30 And this is where they put the Ole Anderson

Speaker 30 mention in. Ole would have set Pockets on fire if he'd have been in the same locker room with him.

Speaker 30 And we'd like to send us, you know, our condolences to the family of Ole Anderson.

Speaker 30 The only reason you should be sending the condolences now is if Ole had turned on the TV scene pockets and died over it.

Speaker 28 If he had seen the person giving the condolences wearing a mask, he would have had a word to say about that, too.

Speaker 30 You know, again,

Speaker 30 how many weeks in a row has this been?

Speaker 30 Stone Cold Steve Austin didn't get this kind of push on Raw.

Speaker 30 It's embarrassing.

Speaker 30 And you know, all the guys in the locker room have to know it's embarrassing, and they have to dread when their number is called, and they have to suffer the presence and put over the stoogishness of this fucking idiot.

Speaker 30 And then to make sure that everybody remembers that the acclaimed are a bunch of fucking flunkies now.

Speaker 30 They had the gangbang scissor clan all together and they made fun of Castor for forgetting his rap.

Speaker 30 Can you believe they brought that up on television?

Speaker 28 I mean.

Speaker 28 I mean, I was going to say, you have to address it, but it really didn't take off. I mean, no, you don't have to address it.
People talked about it for a day or so.

Speaker 30 Nobody was fucking arrested. There's no goddamn ongoing criminal case.
You don't have to address it.

Speaker 30 Do you have to...

Speaker 28 Should they play into this and he never remembers another rap again and then they discover that.

Speaker 30 No, he should remember the phone number for goddamn NXT's offices is what he should probably remember.

Speaker 30 But whenever when somebody botches a goddamn have a corona off the top rope, do they make fun of him the next week? Because, well, you can't just ignore it.

Speaker 28 That's a good point.

Speaker 30 Only with what, Titus O'Neill.

Speaker 30 Anyway, then they had Chris Statlander against Blue Sky with Julia Hart in the corner.

Speaker 30 And Julia Hart could be money as the manager of a top male talent.

Speaker 30 And I mentioned on the drive-through, Statlander, I believe, could be in the top six women in the WWE with 12 to 18 months at NXT, put her against Charlotte, put her against Rhea, put her against Becky.

Speaker 30 She's not going to get any better here. She's lost here, and she's not going to learn anything but bad habits in this environment.

Speaker 30 And she lost the match.

Speaker 30 Julia Hart hit her in the head with a belt shot and Blue Sky Sunset flipped her one, two, three.

Speaker 30 She's the only female on this roster in this company. that could fit at the top of the WWE.
And you could tell she's got something, and it will never come out here.

Speaker 30 It's, I've, I feel, it's, it's like watching an abused puppy that you can't rescue.

Speaker 28 She lost the match due to the interference. She had two people at ringside, Stokely Hathaway and Willow Nightingale.

Speaker 30 I forgot about Stokely and Willow. Why are they there?

Speaker 28 Well, her and Willow are friends. They're both from the island, apparently.
So

Speaker 28 they got that going for them, whatever galaxy that's on.

Speaker 28 And Stokely needed something to do.

Speaker 30 Did you see the next segment of the Lollipop Guild's search for Sting,

Speaker 30 where they decided they were going to do, what movie was this taken from? Some spooky B movie?

Speaker 30 What were they going for here in their thespianism or thesbianism or whatever kind of espionage that these two idiots practice?

Speaker 30 They're in the back hallway and they come up on Sting's locker room and they got the baseball bats and they fake get serious.

Speaker 30 and

Speaker 30 Maddie tells Nick, Maddie told Nikki, what a thing to do. Woolly bully.

Speaker 30 So Maddie told Nikki, hey, this is Sting now. We got to be careful.

Speaker 30 Okay, I got you, brother. And then they fucking

Speaker 30 threw the door open and burst into his locker room. You would have thought they'd have learned about shit like that.

Speaker 30 But this time, at least, they were armed with baseball bats.

Speaker 30 If they'd have had baseball bats the last time, they may have come out looking like popsicles.

Speaker 30 But they burst into Sting's locker room,

Speaker 30 and there are about 20 black baseball bats hanging all over the room, hanging from the ceiling, swinging slowly in the breeze.

Speaker 30 And there's mood lighting in the locker room, and there's nobody else in it. And then they got fake nervous.

Speaker 30 Do you think they're going to get any nominations for any major acting awards for this particular scene from this motion picture?

Speaker 28 They're not very good at this. I will say, though,

Speaker 28 the tall balding one is the better of the two because he doesn't really talk so much. He doesn't have to overact as much.
You believe him as kind of the dim dickhead in the background?

Speaker 30 Okay, I can go along with that. I buy him as a dim dickhead in the background.

Speaker 28 But Matt Buck, he's the one that just is so bad with the acting or overacting or underacting or there's just no fucking acting. And clearly, they think their their stuff is good.

Speaker 28 It's terrible, it's really terrible.

Speaker 28 They suck at this.

Speaker 30 Well, they ain't found Sting yet, but there's still time.

Speaker 30 But meanwhile,

Speaker 30 our main event on television, the last match at least, I guess technically that would make it the main event, but I'm hard-pressed to give it that denomination.

Speaker 30 Chris Jericho versus Atlantis Jr., accompanied by Atlantis Sr.

Speaker 30 And is Atlantis Jr.'s son Atlantis III?

Speaker 30 Way down

Speaker 28 below the ocean. Oh, God damn.

Speaker 30 Where I want

Speaker 28 to be?

Speaker 30 You know that Donovan discovered the location of Atlantis, that magic city under the ocean, a long time ago, way down

Speaker 30 below the ocean,

Speaker 30 where I want to be, she may be.

Speaker 28 Wow, we've hit a new low here, ladies and gentlemen. We apologize to your eardrums, as well as anything else that may be throwing you off balance right now after hearing that.

Speaker 30 Well, Atlantis threw the towel in.

Speaker 30 Atlantis Sr. threw the towel in for Atlantis Jr.

Speaker 28 Did you watch this?

Speaker 30 No.

Speaker 30 God damn it. Now they're just, I don't even know if this is a real, is this Atlantis Jr.
or is this somebody that they fucking got from the popcorn stand and put a mask on him because the CML

Speaker 30 visas got canceled because the government's mad at Jerry, the promoter down in Laredo?

Speaker 30 I don't know if this is some kind of bait and switch. I want real Mexicans.

Speaker 28 Well, no, we didn't hear anything about these two guys having their names on that list. So they are.

Speaker 28 I believe that's the official Atlantis.

Speaker 30 I believe I can't trust any of them anymore, though.

Speaker 30 Any of them. You never know when you're getting a fake Atlantis or a fake Pacific or a fake Indian Ocean or a fake Antarctic Ocean.

Speaker 30 You never know when you're going to get fake gravity.

Speaker 28 No, well, I don't know if he's on that list either, but

Speaker 28 the match wasn't very good. Jericho's not

Speaker 28 great.

Speaker 30 Why are you going to put a 52-year-old ex-WWE superstar against a fucking Lucha Dorr 30 years his junior that probably can't work American style to begin with?

Speaker 28 And Jericho's not really getting those good reactions anymore, is he?

Speaker 28 Who would

Speaker 28 have to do it? Without fucking Judas, what kind of reaction was he getting?

Speaker 30 Who wants to see Chris Jericho wrestle some unknown fucking guy?

Speaker 30 Hey, here's Chris Jericho versus the beer vendor.

Speaker 28 They did do a video with some CMLL footage showing a little bit of the Atlantis history. Maybe they should have done it last week to build into this show, you would think, but they probably.

Speaker 30 Maybe the people in the building were out there getting popcorn when it happened.

Speaker 28 Well, maybe. I mean, it's a big building, but I don't know how many different popcorn vendors were available that night.

Speaker 30 Well, but now we get to the real main event. Because let's face it, everybody's been waiting to find out what's going to happen with the Lollipop Guild and Sting.

Speaker 30 And here they come. And they...

Speaker 30 Maddie and Nikki, they come out to the ring wearing, they got their baseball bats, they're wearing their pink suit and their black suit. You know, and you heard about that.

Speaker 30 You know, the Maddie's wife, who used to head up merchandise, now she's in charge of wardrobe. Did you hear about this?

Speaker 28 I know nothing about this. No.

Speaker 30 Well, yeah, they told her, said, please, honey, go out to Cox's department store and get us a couple of Sears sucker suits, but she got mixed up and went to Sears instead.

Speaker 28 No, let's stop right there. I know this joke.
I didn't know you were going to go there.

Speaker 30 And that's why they looked like that. But

Speaker 30 they came out to Ringside and they don't even get in the ring.

Speaker 30 They're making fun of all of there's a section of fans at Ringside wearing the sting masks, the black and white sting masks.

Speaker 30 And obviously they've handed these out beforehand because they're all in the same fucking place, right?

Speaker 28 Out of nowhere. Out of nowhere.
Tinderella story.

Speaker 30 And they're making fun of them and they flip one guy's fucking mask off and it's Darby. And he jumps on them and starts wailing on them, but they stop him and start beating Darby up.

Speaker 30 And at this point, Brian, did you know this was the

Speaker 30 telling moment in the show? You talk about it quiet at various points. They're kicking the shit out of Darby Allen.
He's one of the better thought of talents on the roster, right?

Speaker 30 The people didn't care. There was some light booing.
You see everybody across from the camera standing there looking at it.

Speaker 30 Some people are looking back at the entrance, like, is somebody going to run down and help anybody?

Speaker 30 Nobody gave a shit.

Speaker 30 They don't care what these two are doing.

Speaker 30 And they give Darby their shitty little double knee lift that doesn't look like it does anything to you, and you can't take a bump from it. But Nick, Nick did.

Speaker 30 He tripped and fell down and took a bump from giving his own finish. And the people were just staring.

Speaker 30 And then Matt comes over and gives him a fake bat shot to the stomach that there was no need for.

Speaker 30 It's just like, here, let me do something else that looks like complete shit so you can see through it. Boom.

Speaker 30 And then Ric Flair's music plays.

Speaker 30 And here comes Rick down to the ring.

Speaker 30 And he's smiling and he's doing his little shuffle.

Speaker 30 And the announcer, oh, and we saw Ric Flair talking to the to the Buckaroos last week. Oh, my God, is he going to,

Speaker 30 you know, he's obviously going to stab Sting in the back, so they're already telling us going to be a swerve again.

Speaker 30 This is like shit-stain booking. Flair gets in the ring, takes his jacket off, takes the baseball bat.
The Buckaroos are holding Darby.

Speaker 30 And think about this, Brian. Even if Flair is going to turn on, do what he's going about to do and turn on the Buckaroos to take up for Darby.
They've handed him a baseball bat.

Speaker 30 He drops the baseball bat, reaches over and misses Nick with an eye poke. He went past him.
Nick had to sell a fucking Phantom eye poke.

Speaker 30 Then he draws back and punches Maddie in the face, but Maddie has to walk into the punch.

Speaker 30 And then he, I think he chopped him a timer, whatever, but poor Rick cannot fucking barely move or draw back or swing without losing his balance and falling over.

Speaker 30 So they're walking into him for this shit. But when he missed the eye poke, I was like, oh my God.

Speaker 30 And then they stop Flare with a fake nutshot.

Speaker 30 And they

Speaker 30 stomp Flare. They do what they can to Flare.

Speaker 30 They don't do any major goddamn not trying to pick him up and giving him a fucking melts or neither one of them is strong enough to pick him up off the ground anyway.

Speaker 30 But they kick the shit out of Flare, and then Sting music starts playing.

Speaker 30 So they grab the bats and go to the stage where they can wait on him.

Speaker 30 And they're waiting in the entranceway. They're the stage.
They're waiting for Sting.

Speaker 30 And then the handheld camera goes around in front of the buckaroos shooting right between them, but right in front of them. So they see this fucking guy stand there with a camera,

Speaker 30 which may be a clue that now they're dropping Sting from the ceiling.

Speaker 30 They lowered Sting,

Speaker 30 a 65-year-old man,

Speaker 30 from the ceiling of this building. Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't they stop doing that along about May of 1999, just in every promotion, just out of some level of respect?

Speaker 28 WCW, which had started doing it with Sting, stopped doing it. And AEW, it is important to note, has a relationship with Dr.
Martha Hart.

Speaker 28 So I was surprised.

Speaker 30 Oh, my my God.

Speaker 28 I was surprised that they would do this with Sting.

Speaker 28 It's just not worth the risk beyond the way it appears.

Speaker 30 Well, but if your formative years were spent pleasuring and fondling yourself over WCW, Nitro and Thunder, you would do this.

Speaker 30 And they did it. And Sting comes down from the raft after.

Speaker 30 After letting them kill Flair,

Speaker 30 if he's up there and he had the wherewithal and the mobility to come down there,

Speaker 30 why did he wait till he killed Flair?

Speaker 28 It's these small logic holes that you could place in newspapers all around the country.

Speaker 30 Pardon me, let me go over to my one bedroom in my apartment and place a new ad.

Speaker 30 So after Flair has been left to twist in the fucking wind and be brutalized, then Sting comes down. Darby unhooks him, and then my DVR froze, but I understand they ran the heels off.

Speaker 28 That's right.

Speaker 30 How is that?

Speaker 28 Huntsville has never seen a celebration like this.

Speaker 30 Boy, howdy. They thought they had it bad when Nick was pushing George down there in Huntsville, over at the old Huntsville Coliseum.

Speaker 30 There we go. So that was the go-home flagship program of AEW before their big pay-per-view, which brought everything into crystal clear focus.

Speaker 17 The work may cost less than you think.

Speaker 19 and can often be done in just a few days.

Speaker 28 That was a really bad episode, I thought.

Speaker 28 But the numbers may tell a different story. Let's see what the numbers say, Jim.

Speaker 28 800 and what thousand this past week, AEW Dynamite on TBS, Wednesday, February 28th, 8 to 10:02 p.m.

Speaker 28 On average, 822,000 viewers.

Speaker 30 Boy, they minus 1%.

Speaker 28 Minus 1% from last week.

Speaker 30 They still stay in that pocket. These people

Speaker 30 would eat the Elmer's glue and thank you for the ice cream. They will tolerate anything.

Speaker 28 Well, Jim, we'll see how much they tolerated on this night. So AEW Dynamite, these were compiled by WrestleNomics.

Speaker 28 Quarter one, 8 to 8.15 p.m.

Speaker 28 Adam Page,

Speaker 28 Samu. I was about to combine a couple names here.
Swerve Strickland and Samoa Joe's live promo. Samu.

Speaker 28 And the Young Bucks Backstage Arrival promo.

Speaker 28 983,000 viewers. Wow.

Speaker 30 So again, they start with almost a million, thanks to our friend Sheldon.

Speaker 28 Well, that's right.

Speaker 30 What are they going to do with them?

Speaker 28 Well, we're going to do with them. We're going to take them to quarter two, 8.15, 8.30 p.m.

Speaker 28 An ad break. The beginning of Eddie Kingston and FTR versus versus Brian Danielson and Claudio Castignoli and Jon Moxley with picture-in-picture ads.

Speaker 28 804,000 viewers.

Speaker 30 Oh, Jesus. All right.
So

Speaker 30 we're back to normalcy. Remember, last week, for whatever reason, they held some people, but now we've lost 179,000 people in 15 minutes.

Speaker 28 That's a big drop quickly. Again,

Speaker 30 you know what?

Speaker 30 They're going to have to come back. They're going to have to come back at some point in the show to make their average.
So I'm interested to see where that is.

Speaker 28 And again, that first minute being the Big Bang theory, it's going to prove every single week. The average AEW audience is in the range of 800,000 viewers minus that.

Speaker 28 Or maybe even lower.

Speaker 28 Quarter three, the continuation of the six-man tag match, 8.30 to 8.45 p.m.

Speaker 28 799,000 viewers. Oh, by the way, picture-in-picture ads.
I should have. Okay.

Speaker 30 Well, I'm surprised only 5,000 people said, my God, there has to be more meaning to life than watching this.

Speaker 28 Well, the meaning of life was still being searched for in quarter four. How's that for a rhyme? There you go.
8.45 to 9 p.m.

Speaker 28 An Atlantis video. A Lionheart Chris Jericho backstage promo.
An ad break.

Speaker 28 Will Osprey. And Don Callis's Families Live promo.
And then the Young Bucks backstage confrontation with Eddie Kingston.

Speaker 30 Well,

Speaker 30 got 36,000 back. And I can't imagine out of that

Speaker 30 list you just read what they'd want to see, but

Speaker 30 good for them.

Speaker 28 Well, good for them. Let's see if the goodness continues into quarter four, quarter five, the big nine o'clock hour.

Speaker 30 Nine o'clock hour, the big top of the hour.

Speaker 28 Top of the hour, 9 to 9.15 p.m.

Speaker 28 Orange Cassidy versus Nick Wayne with picture picture-in-picture ads.

Speaker 30 242,000. What the? Why would you do that?

Speaker 30 I mean, even if you're not offended by just the presence of pockets, why would you put him against this fucking bland mope-faced teenager at the 9 o'clock hour? Oh,

Speaker 30 this will draw him in like flies.

Speaker 28 Well, mopiness is in the eye of the beholder, but the number, Jim, is 799,000 viewers.

Speaker 30 Wow. So

Speaker 30 they picked up 36,000 from 3 to 4, and those same 36,000 said, oh, we've made a drastic error and left.

Speaker 30 Okay.

Speaker 28 We now go to what is known as quarter six

Speaker 28 in some circles. 9.15 to 9.30 p.m.

Speaker 28 The finish of the aforementioned match. The post-match with the Undisputed Kingdom, Trent Beretta, and Rocky Romero.

Speaker 28 An ad break. The Bang Bang Scissor Gangs backstage promo.
And the start of Chris Statland versus Sky Blue with picture-in-picture ads.

Speaker 30 Ouch.

Speaker 30 And that's another 32,000. So now we've gone from 983 to 767.
We got two quarters to go.

Speaker 28 That's right. Quarter seven, 945 to 10 p.m.

Speaker 28 No, excuse me, 9.30 to 9.45.

Speaker 30 Yeah.

Speaker 28 Chris Statlander vs. Sky Blue continued with a post-match with Julia Hart and Willow Nightingale and Stokely Hathaway.
The Young Bucks, backstage, finding Sting's room of bats,

Speaker 28 an ad break, and the start of Chris Jericho versus Atlantis Jr.

Speaker 28 with picture-in-picture ads.

Speaker 30 So Jericho managed to run another 1,000 off.

Speaker 30 He's not the ratings draw that Pockets is now.

Speaker 28 They don't really call him the demo god anymore, do they?

Speaker 30 Boy, unless you're talking about demolition, he's demolishing the ratings.

Speaker 28 Hey, demolition, we're awesome. Let's not compare Chris.

Speaker 30 I'm not talking about the team. I'm talking about the act.

Speaker 28 Underrated, one of the great tag teams. But let's go now, Jim, to quarter eight, 9.45 to 10 p.m.
I remind you we have an overrun.

Speaker 30 And bed, people had to think there was something going to go on with Sting and something going to go on with these two weasels looking for him.

Speaker 30 And one would think that they would have wanted to see Sting. Certainly to God, they had to come back somewhat.

Speaker 28 Well, Chris Jericho versus Atlantis Jr. continued with the post-match celebration with Atlantis, and they all hug,

Speaker 28 followed by the Young Bucks confrontation with Darby Allen, Ric Flair, and Sting's appearance,

Speaker 28 810,000 viewers. Wow.
Two-minute overrun. 891,000 viewers.

Speaker 30 Okay.

Speaker 30 For two minutes, suddenly 81,000 people said, oh, my God, we're almost missing it.

Speaker 30 Ric Flair and Sting

Speaker 30 in a segment and 810,000.

Speaker 30 At least they got 44 back. But

Speaker 30 you got your calculator over there, Brian.

Speaker 30 Do what we did before. Add up

Speaker 30 quarters two through eight, leave off quarter one and the overrun and see what the average is when it's just all AEW all through the quarter.

Speaker 28 I am doing that right now. Uh, let me restart now that you threw me off.
Uh,

Speaker 30 you got to be able to multitask.

Speaker 28 Oh, come on, 799 plus 835 plus 799

Speaker 28 plus 767

Speaker 28 plus 766

Speaker 28 plus 810

Speaker 28 plus, oh, that's it.

Speaker 30 That's it.

Speaker 28 Divided by 7. 7

Speaker 28 equals 797,000 viewers.

Speaker 30 797,000 people. Take out the first quarter that's artificially inflated every week that we know, and take out the overrun that's ridiculous and that they're fudging the numbers for.

Speaker 30 And you get 797,000 people this time, which is lower than last time we did this exercise. And out of seven quarters, only three of them were above 800 000 in the body of the show

Speaker 28 and it's getting worse because the show is getting worse and nobody can tell him because he won't listen the trend lines show it for the overall audience they hold pretty steady with the key demo right now but the key demo is starting to be it's starting to get to the point where it's going to be the bigger audience uh pretty soon but 800 000 Give or take, and literally in this case, 797,

Speaker 28 800,000 is the audience audience that's going to watch them on TV.

Speaker 28 And they're locked in kind of at that number.

Speaker 28 And it seems like they every now and then get a nice little burst, but then they lose a little more breath and they go a little bit fall. They fall a little bit further.

Speaker 28 And the trend line starts showing that they're not doing a great job of

Speaker 28 building anything. They may think they have good builds.
but they're going to get the same people to buy the paper. I know Dave Melcher did some kind of study where,

Speaker 28 you know, all the pay-per-view buys AEW has, it was actually like 90. No, I shouldn't give a percentage because I don't remember it, but it was like the majority of it were different people.

Speaker 28 Never the same people buying the pay-per-views. All different people.

Speaker 30 You know why that is, don't you? Because once that people go on record as buying one of these pay-per-views with the cable company, they change their name. They're ashamed.

Speaker 30 They're embarrassed to be grouped in that category. So they're trying to hide their identities.

Speaker 28 Well, maybe people aren't rich and you have to find a rich friend that will buy the AEW pay-per-view, but you may not be able to get them to buy a second one. So you got to find another rich friend.

Speaker 28 Yeah. Because, you know, poor people typically don't like AEW, according to Dave Meltzer.
But

Speaker 28 I was saying something and I don't even remember what it was, actually.

Speaker 30 Well, neither does Tony.

Speaker 28 I guess that was the point. The pay-per-views, it's the same audience.
Like they're going to do in the range of 140,000 to 110,000. Ring of Honor being a little different.

Speaker 28 And they're about to introduce more pay-per-views. So it'll be very interesting because they're $50 a pop pop minimum.

Speaker 30 At what point do their most devoted fans have to go out and take a second job to afford all the pay-per-views?

Speaker 28 You know, and again, the storylines and everything, nothing's getting better.

Speaker 28 There's just, there's more of it. Yes.

Speaker 30 It's not good and it's not getting any better, but there's so much more of it.

Speaker 28 Well, that was Dynamite, the go-home episode for the Revolution pay-per-view.

Speaker 30 Well, and in just one moment, we're going to discuss that, aren't we?

Speaker 30 Oh, suddenly.

Speaker 28 You're watching PBS.

Speaker 28 We are in the future, ladies and gentlemen. We are here in the future.
Days of future past.

Speaker 28 And AEW's revolution took place and what a revolution it was.

Speaker 28 They were fighting, were. There was fighting in the streets.
There were fighting.

Speaker 28 There were fighting in the streets.

Speaker 28 And people

Speaker 28 will never be the same.

Speaker 28 You say you want a revolution.

Speaker 30 Well,

Speaker 28 this is your show.

Speaker 30 Yeah, I was waiting for you to realize that.

Speaker 30 About halfway through the fucking time travel, I was waiting for you to realize that. But

Speaker 30 yeah,

Speaker 30 I gotta tell you the reason why we tied, we had to consume the entirety of the,

Speaker 30 I can't say magnitude of rev, possibly the minitude of revolution

Speaker 30 and

Speaker 30 take our underdog super energy pills and a good deep breath to talk about this

Speaker 30 chaos that

Speaker 30 You could If this was wrestling school, we could literally do two, three weeks of classes on

Speaker 30 everything that if you were a wrestler or a wrestling promotion, you wouldn't want to fucking do.

Speaker 30 And they did it in front of the biggest crowd they will have in the United States this year.

Speaker 30 And

Speaker 30 for,

Speaker 30 I guess, for a spectacle of something to watch while you're there in a building that you paid for,

Speaker 30 they enjoyed it. It's not like it wasn't the WWE syndrome where they pay incredible amounts of money in large numbers and then sit there and get an hour and a half of action in four hours.

Speaker 30 We got about six hours of action in four hours.

Speaker 28 In front of that notoriously, mostly subdued Greensboro audience.

Speaker 30 I don't know if I'd put Greensboro Coliseum next to the Nassau Coliseum in Long Island as subdued audience, but they finally had crowd shots. They had 16,000 people in Greensboro.

Speaker 30 Bless their little pee-picking hearts.

Speaker 30 And

Speaker 30 I would save it for

Speaker 30 the examination of the Buckaroos match, but really it's a show-long, company-wide theme.

Speaker 30 The Buckaroos are the poster boys because of their killing the business, Incorporated, right?

Speaker 30 And they popularized this tomfoolery,

Speaker 30 but it applies to everything on on this show.

Speaker 30 Killing the business is not a joke. It's been happening for the past 20 years.

Speaker 30 Because I don't care what company it is or what promotion it is.

Speaker 30 Think about this. When you have people

Speaker 30 surviving hand grenades and rocket launchers and poison gas and fucking ballistic missiles and stabbing and shooting and fucking anal protrusion with a goddamn metal poker.

Speaker 28 No, that's DDT. That's not here.

Speaker 30 All right, over and over again.

Speaker 30 And it's mostly meaningless people that are doing it that aren't over in the overall scheme of things, or

Speaker 30 in the case of the main event here, and in the case of a couple of the matches, people who actually got over at one point in time by doing none of this shit,

Speaker 30 doing this shit.

Speaker 30 Here's how it kills the business. And slowly, subliminally, it's like a growing cancer.

Speaker 30 50 years ago,

Speaker 30 not even, no,

Speaker 30 let me 44 years ago. No, 48 years ago, I'm trying to do the math right.

Speaker 30 48 years ago,

Speaker 30 Bruno Sammartino and Stan Hansen drew 40,000 people to Shea Stadium off of a,

Speaker 30 actually a clothesline, a Lariat.

Speaker 30 What happened was in their match,

Speaker 30 Hansen went to fucking slam Bruno. Bruno went up for a regular slam.
Hansen went up for the over-the-shoulder slam he'd been doing because he was greener than a pepper tree at that point.

Speaker 30 And Bruno landed on his head. It broke his neck.

Speaker 30 And Bruno knew that he was fucked pretty instantly. They went to the finish.
Hansen shot him off and gave him the Lariat.

Speaker 30 And it was not one of the finer bumps ever taken off a Lariat because, as I mentioned, Bruno already knew he's fucked up. Hansen told me himself.

Speaker 30 He said, as soon as he went back to the locker room, he didn't really know anything.

Speaker 30 And Vince Sr. came in, and the first words out of his mouth were, you hurt Bruno.

Speaker 30 And Hansen said his heart fell out of his asshole.

Speaker 30 But I mean,

Speaker 30 were fighting words in them days.

Speaker 30 The golden goose, right? But the people, because it was Bruno, they blamed the Lariat, not a botched body slam.

Speaker 30 Because it was Bruno and they believed him because he was out of the ring for two months. Obviously, he didn't wrestle anywhere because he didn't wrestle anywhere.

Speaker 30 And they rushed him back to Shea Stadium for the fucking grudge match off of... And they had pictures of him in the hospital.
Stan Hansen broke Bruno's neck

Speaker 30 with a clothesline. They drew 40,000 people.

Speaker 30 And

Speaker 30 then Hansen had to leave the territory because old women were attacking him on the subway. You had Bruno.

Speaker 28 Oh, I don't think it was the old women that were the upset fans he was running from.

Speaker 30 Well, no, they had to get it. No, he was causing riot.

Speaker 30 They had to get him out of there in the building, but I'm saying he had old women accosting him if he'd take the subway in New York or wherever the fuck. It was, he just had to leave.

Speaker 30 But the point is...

Speaker 28 Watch out for old women and anyone friends with Jilly Rizzo.

Speaker 30 Because,

Speaker 30 well, you know that you're alluding to something. There were some fucking threats made until Bruno had to put the word out, right? No, let's not take care of him.

Speaker 28 I'll do it myself with my Bruno punch.

Speaker 30 Can you imagine the mob now being in modern day times being upset about a fucking wrestler getting hurt? We'll take care of him. No, no, astigma.

Speaker 28 See, that's who you definitely don't want to hear say, you hurt Bruno. Yeah.
Then you're in trouble.

Speaker 30 But anyway, the subliminal killing of the business.

Speaker 30 I know it's 50 years later, and I'm not suggesting that we can hospitalize somebody from a clothesline for two months or whatever the fuck. But the point remains that when you have

Speaker 30 main event, and it hurts the WWE too.

Speaker 30 Because any fan that sees an exhibition like what went on with AEW

Speaker 30 and then watches the big boys, yes, they see the big stars and yes, they still get into it. But subliminally, when they do an angle or when there's an angle done anywhere,

Speaker 30 or even in the same company in AEW, what are they going to do for an angle now, goddamn agent orange?

Speaker 30 It doesn't register even when the main event people do it, even when the people you care about do it, even when the biggest stars in the business do it, because

Speaker 30 slowly you will eat away and erode away, which is why now the WWE is doing better than they have done in years by drawing a quarter of the viewership they had 20 years ago.

Speaker 30 That is why AEW now considers them a rate themselves a rating success because they are drawing somewhere a little over half of what TNA was doing on spike 15 years ago.

Speaker 30 We're eroding the audience because even if goddamn

Speaker 30 The Rock and Cody Rhodes do some horrible fucking super duper Spanish fly up the ass off the top rope

Speaker 30 leading to a hospitalization angle, somebody's going to say, yeah, but that That fucking guy on the other show was 180 pounds with rocks in his pockets.

Speaker 30 Well, he dove off a 15-foot ladder through goddamn six

Speaker 30 panes of glass into goddamn chairs on concrete. So

Speaker 30 he's still okay.

Speaker 30 Come to think of it, he finished the match.

Speaker 28 And I think that Orange Cassidy may be the masked Agent Orange.

Speaker 30 And there you go. Boy, he's noxious.
We got that going for him. But that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 30 It's a slow, gradual numbing of the audience's mind and an erosion of anything you can do with main event talent for value of selling tickets and or drawing money or increasing interest when you let every one of these jack-off juvenile delinquents go out there and masturbate themselves to their heart's content in their favorite fucking fantasy wrestling scenario.

Speaker 30 And that pretty much encapsulates this whole fucking show. So now we can go through it piece by piece.

Speaker 28 Oh, I thought that was the the review. All right.
Well, this is AEW Revolution from Greensboro, North Carolina. A sold-out crowd, 16,000 plus.

Speaker 28 Approximately.

Speaker 30 To see one thing.

Speaker 30 All they had to get right. They had one job.

Speaker 30 Give Sting a retirement match and then give him a great send-off and let all of it make the air.

Speaker 30 But anyway, we started out with another

Speaker 30 legendary figure who's been reduced to this.

Speaker 30 Christian Cage defending the TNT title against Danny Garcia.

Speaker 30 And Christian was accompanied by, of course, by Dino Douche, Nick Plain, and Nick Plain's mom.

Speaker 30 And when Tony Khan gets fascinated with a bland indie guy, he goes all the way with it.

Speaker 30 So this was our opening match, and

Speaker 30 I don't don't know what to say. A star had a match with an indie guy that can do the moves, and Christian Cage works hard,

Speaker 30 and this was a long TV match with no commercials.

Speaker 30 I'm sorry, and Garcia,

Speaker 30 in OVW, we could have used him in the middle in a small territory. He might be a...

Speaker 30 nice guy to have on the card, explained to me with that boring fucking face of his, and that

Speaker 30 his body is there. It reflects light.
You can see it, but there's nothing special about it. And

Speaker 30 he's not even slovenly in a fucking interesting way.

Speaker 30 And, you know,

Speaker 30 hey, Ref Aubrey, Aubrey Ed's been letting her mane grow out. Did you see her do on this particular night? They've been feeding her fish oil because her mane has extra luster.

Speaker 30 I think daily brushing and grooming is is key.

Speaker 28 Her hair looked different, if that is what you mean.

Speaker 30 So do you have any comments on this match before I tell the people what happened in a finish?

Speaker 28 No, I have no comments on this match. It wasn't,

Speaker 28 you know, like you said, it just felt like one of these matches in the middle of the show where I'm like, okay, I can go to the kitchen now. But they started the show with it.

Speaker 30 And hey, on these AEW pay-per-views, they got so many kitchen matches. No wonder the fans are mostly morbidly obese.

Speaker 28 I'm not disagreeing with you. Not disagreeing with you at all about Garcia and his level of boredom-inducing whatever he does.

Speaker 30 He reflects like.

Speaker 28 But Christian's just as bad because he has a gimmick, he has a title, he has a stable,

Speaker 28 and I'm sick of him. He's boring from getting a chance to do his thing.

Speaker 28 You know, who's going to be the next person he picks on about a dead relative?

Speaker 30 Well, I mean, he's boring because he's doing it with a bunch of, he's surrounded by people that are, you know, the epitome of amateur hour.

Speaker 30 And he's doing it with people that nobody gives a shit about or that you can't make it interesting. He's throwing mud at a wall.
It just sticks and drips.

Speaker 30 Nothing bounces back.

Speaker 28 He's like a James Bond villain if it took place in Ontario.

Speaker 30 He's like a real James Bond villain in an Austin Powers fucking movie.

Speaker 28 Yeah. And I'm not interested anymore.
So.

Speaker 30 Well,

Speaker 30 after about 15 minutes of this nonsense, Dino was about to interfere and suddenly Mac Daddy appeared, who apparently was supposed to be injured by these people on collision.

Speaker 30 They said at the top of the match, that's why he wasn't out in Garcia's corner. But he appears and attacks Dino, and they

Speaker 30 one of the more interesting

Speaker 30 fight-off, you know, type of thing I've seen.

Speaker 28 Some of those shots he was laying in were interesting.

Speaker 30 And then, well, and then mom, Nick, Nick Plain's mom, and Mac Daddy, mommy and daddy, got face to face, and she's a foot taller than he is.

Speaker 30 And she went to slap him, and he tried to block it, and he missed her hand, and she didn't want to really hit him. So she held up, and then he couldn't find her fucking hand.

Speaker 30 It looked like they were fighting over a fucking knife or something, trying to block that fucking. And then they finally,

Speaker 30 here came Dino again, and that's when they did the sloppy fight-off where Dino's just bent over, walking up the ramp, and old Mac Daddy is hitting him in the ribs with fake punches.

Speaker 30 And then

Speaker 30 in the middle of the ring, Christian is going to go to hit fucking, what's his name? I've forgotten his name, like everybody. Kill Swiss Garcia.
No, Garcia. Oh, that one.

Speaker 30 Christian goes to hit Garcia with a spear as he's charging,

Speaker 30 but he's bent over running. And all of a sudden he stops while he's bent over, but it looked like Garcia forgot to kick him and stop him.

Speaker 30 And then Garcia picks him up because he stopped in the middle of the ring, bent over in a dead run, and then boop.

Speaker 30 And Garcia just grabs him in a pile driver and gives him a pile driver, gets a two count.

Speaker 30 I had to take notes on, I can't remember all this shit. I don't know how they remember this shit.
I don't know what drugs makes them come up with this shit.

Speaker 30 Garcia jackknifed Christian, but Christian got the ropes, and then mom, mommy,

Speaker 30 jumped up and drew Aubrey Ed over to the other side so that Nick Plain could interfere. And then Christian hit his finish one, two, three.

Speaker 30 Who's doing these fucking finishes?

Speaker 30 In the first match, all this fucking shit, people can't goddamn hit their fucking marks. And 17 minutes from bell to bell.

Speaker 30 Need I go on or should I move on?

Speaker 28 I think the biggest reason to want AEW to leave Warner Brothers Discovery would be the possible disappearance of the TNT championship.

Speaker 28 So we don't have to deal with this title anymore.

Speaker 28 No, and like I said,

Speaker 28 Garcia is a young wrestler. Let's see what happens as he fills out and gets older and a personality or whatever.
Other than, you know, I dance for three seconds.

Speaker 30 I think he needs to be electrocuted somehow to have a personality.

Speaker 28 But I'm sick of Christian, and you know, they're going to return to Christian versus Edge again. Do you want to see more of that? Is that what you want more of?

Speaker 30 I forgot. I've already forgotten what happened.
What was the last word we left? Who was on top when last we left that angle? Did Christian get what fur, or was Edge still feeling wronged?

Speaker 28 Well, I think Garcia was replacing

Speaker 28 Edge who got hurt, or Adam Copeland, who got hurt by Christian and his people.

Speaker 30 But is he hurt for real?

Speaker 28 Oh, I have no idea. I have no idea.
God damn it.

Speaker 30 Anyway,

Speaker 30 speaking of people that we used to enjoy that have rapidly started grating on our fucking nerves.

Speaker 30 Brian Danielson was up next challenging Eddie Kingston for the Continental Breakfast Championship.

Speaker 30 And

Speaker 30 I can't remember Danielson when he was that smart Alec, you know, fucking single a couple of years ago when they got put in a position where they needed a fucking heel and there he was and he's a smooth worker in the ring when he's working with normal fucking American style workers

Speaker 30 and

Speaker 30 he's gone to shit with the BBC and being around the plumber and that whole tomfoolery. He's always in garbage matches.
And now, as we're getting the last year of his career,

Speaker 30 before he hangs it up,

Speaker 30 instead of getting some great Brian Danielson matches, we're getting great fucking tributes to Japanese legends that we don't give a shit about matches.

Speaker 30 And this was Rene Moxley Good actually informed us that Kingston had dedicated this match to June Akiyama

Speaker 30 or June Cleaver, one or the other.

Speaker 30 So Kingston already, instead of, as we've mentioned, working a gimmick that would fit him and that

Speaker 30 unique look that he has and play to his strengths as

Speaker 30 a fucking regular guy, fucking fighter, whatever.

Speaker 30 He's fantasizing. He's a goddamn member of the Gracie family.
And Danielson is going to do nothing but do Japanese tribute matches.

Speaker 30 It's like goddamn, it's karaoke.

Speaker 30 It's like somebody else did most of this shit good in Japan years ago. And now they're doing the shit that they used to do, but they're not doing it because that's not the shit they need to be doing.

Speaker 30 And Eddie Kingston has had two or three years now to even lose part of that stomach, hadn't he?

Speaker 30 And

Speaker 30 would you like me to go over some of the highlights?

Speaker 28 Yeah, you can. I'll just say right here, I'm giving a lot of my comments early in the reviews.
I just get you to say what you have to say, but I've said it before, beyond Eddie Kingston.

Speaker 28 And

Speaker 28 I like Eddie. I want to root for Eddie.
I want to like his matches. I love his promos.
But Michael Hayes wanted to wrestle too, and Bill Watts is like, no, you know what?

Speaker 28 It's maybe better you just stay on on the mic and we'll get Buddy Roberts in here. There is no Buddy Roberts to slot in here.
But Danielson,

Speaker 28 I said it a while ago. I was starting to get sick of his matches when people were still raving about him.
And he's a very talented guy, obviously. But whether it's the

Speaker 28 adopting the slowness of the WWE style to his style or...

Speaker 28 You know, the stuff that's so overdone now that it makes you groan, the trading stuff back and forth.

Speaker 28 And, you know, I think there was also a time where the submission holds that were influenced by MMA were really strong and really powerful. But I don't feel like that's really there right now.

Speaker 28 And a lot of these.

Speaker 30 Only in the minds of the competitors.

Speaker 28 Yeah. So I'm a little sick of Brian Danielson, too.
And I have been for a while.

Speaker 30 Well, and it's not we're sick of him. It's what he's doing with the talent that he has.
And unfortunately, the talent he has to face in these things. But

Speaker 30 they started the leg kicks and the ducking chops and the leg checks.

Speaker 30 It looked like Ali and Anoki

Speaker 30 when they started out.

Speaker 30 And then more chops and kicks and the fake fast slaps. And

Speaker 30 I'm writing, can somebody grab a headlock, one tackle, drop down hip toss, give me a wrestling match here.

Speaker 30 And then finally, I think

Speaker 30 when Danielson gave Kingston a suplex off the apron to the floor, it was the first person to take a bump. They actually hadn't taken any bumps in the ring.
They're just kicking and chopping. And

Speaker 30 then Kingston was trying to wrestle like Billy Robinson.

Speaker 30 I had to start fast forwarding because it was the same thing. And at 20 minutes in, they were standing there having a slap fight.

Speaker 30 And then

Speaker 30 Danielson went for the kick. Kingston hit a clothesline and power bombed him and pinned him one, two, three.
Just right.

Speaker 30 They had done a bunch of stuff and then decided that was all the stuff they had to do. And then they just fucking ended it.

Speaker 28 It was weird. The hotter the crowd got into the match as the match went on, it built,

Speaker 28 the worse the work looked.

Speaker 30 Yes, that's a good way to put it.

Speaker 30 I don't

Speaker 30 they they think think they're in Japan and they're trying to educate

Speaker 30 an American audience with, and once again, doing it in karaoke style.

Speaker 30 You know, and that's why they've got what they've got.

Speaker 30 They got 15,000, 16,000 people there for Sting's last match, but what they've got in terms of television viewership in this overall country is because that's the only people that want to put up with this over and over again.

Speaker 30 And then, as a result of the stipulation, Danielson was supposed to shake Kingston's hand, right? Like that was some,

Speaker 30 like it was the equivalent of the kiss my foot stipulation. If I, I'm going to beat you and you're going to have to kiss my foot.
Now you got to shake my hand.

Speaker 30 Okay, well, he shakes his hand and then he raises Kingston's arm and bows to him.

Speaker 30 Why the, what the, I don't.

Speaker 28 See, in Blackpool, they teach you, be the baddest motherfucker you can, but if you get your ass kicked, bow always pay respect to this man who beat you

Speaker 30 all righty

Speaker 30 the next match was a very special

Speaker 30 why the do this match with

Speaker 30 eight people now bear in mind They've got a three-way match for their world heavyweight title later on in the program with their alleged main event talent. So to make sure that that looks like shit,

Speaker 30 they put an eight-way with underneath and middle card guys

Speaker 30 and Chris Jericho

Speaker 30 on the undercard.

Speaker 28 Well, I remind you, this replaced what would have been meat madness.

Speaker 30 Which was going to be from what I, at least six fucking guys.

Speaker 28 But Miro had a...

Speaker 28 A toenail issue.

Speaker 30 Well, there was a fungus. Fungus underneath you.

Speaker 28 And Keith Lee's doing Keith Lee, you know.

Speaker 30 I think Keith Lee has a breathing issue. As every morning when he wakes up, he has to hold a mirror in front of his fucking face, see if he's still alive.

Speaker 30 Anyway, this was Hook

Speaker 30 versus Hobbs, Hobbs, poor Hobbs.

Speaker 30 Dad, poor dad, mama's thrown you in the closet and we're feeling so sad.

Speaker 30 Versus Lance Archer, he's still there.

Speaker 30 And Jake walked to the ring to stand there and look at all this.

Speaker 30 Versus Brian Cage versus Wardlow

Speaker 30 versus Dante Martin, who was there so the big guys could throw him

Speaker 30 versus Magnus. And this is neither Nick Aldiss' previous fucking gimmick in TNA nor Mark Magnus before he became Muhammad Hassan.
This is some fucking guy wearing a mask from Mexico

Speaker 30 versus Chris Jericho.

Speaker 30 All eight in the ring at the same time. Do what you want to do.
Go where you want to go. Be who you want to be.

Speaker 30 And

Speaker 30 it was a scramble match is what we are told. And that was a thing that the fucking indies came up with.

Speaker 30 15 or 20 years ago when they realized that even though they had 19 matches on their card because nobody really got paid, there were still eight or 10 guys that would get their feelings hurt if they weren't booked so they could wrestle in front of 172 people.

Speaker 30 So they put them on the show in a scramble match where they can all go out and show how great they are, Brian.

Speaker 30 And it's the same thing here, only everybody's getting paid.

Speaker 30 And Tony apparently did not want to hurt anyone's feelings

Speaker 30 by not putting them on the because why have this?

Speaker 30 Why?

Speaker 30 He thinks he's doing them a favor, putting them on pay-per-view in a match that will do nothing for anybody and is impossible to work and make sense.

Speaker 28 It's a match for the fans, a match to guarantee some cheap pops and some ooze and ahs.

Speaker 30 A match to make sure that the main event guys have that much less left to do that's going to get any kind of reaction. So they've got to dive through broken glass.

Speaker 30 So everybody did moves to everybody.

Speaker 28 It wasn't broken when they dove through it. They broke it.

Speaker 30 You caught me there. Good point there.
I do stand corrected, sir, and I am ashamed of the error.

Speaker 28 Thank you very much.

Speaker 30 So you couldn't really tell whether anybody was a babyface or a heel here, but what difference would it fucking make? Because it was a faker and a fucking football bat to begin with.

Speaker 30 And most of the guys spent the match sitting on the floor off camera waiting for their cues to come in.

Speaker 28 There were pictures sent to us of that actually of

Speaker 28 Wardlow drinking water.

Speaker 29 Yeah,

Speaker 30 Wardlow wandered over to the fucking ringside and had a bottle of water while he was waiting for his cue

Speaker 30 for his next scene.

Speaker 30 And

Speaker 30 then finally, the finish, imagine this. Wardlow powerbombed Dante Martin.
One, two, three.

Speaker 30 And this lasted 15 minutes of just nonsense over and over.

Speaker 28 A couple things. What do you think of the reaction Jericho's getting?

Speaker 30 I couldn't really tell he was getting that much.

Speaker 28 He's not really getting one at all anymore right now.

Speaker 30 Well, I mean, but to be fair, you could fucking, you could hide goddamn Stone Cold Steve Austin in this mess, practically, and who would notice?

Speaker 28 Congratulations to Magnus, by the way. Not having any of these visa issues.
Maybe he could talk to his buddy Hetchichero and give him some advice.

Speaker 30 Well, that's because he had a MasterCard a long time ago.

Speaker 28 Wardlow, they seem to be going with some kind of renewed thing with him. They had the big fiery promo.
Came out here with a big black eye and he won the match.

Speaker 28 The Undisputed Kingdom may be doing something a little more seriously now. Who knows? What do you think?

Speaker 28 But what do you think of the...

Speaker 30 You know, people, that's why, that's why.

Speaker 30 That is why that Buster Keaton won all those Oscars when he switched and became a dramatic actor after he'd been the funniest man in the movies.

Speaker 28 He never won any Oscars.

Speaker 30 Exactly. Because he never switched and became a dramatic actor because that face.
The fuck, right?

Speaker 28 You're saying they should change his name to Buster Wardlow?

Speaker 30 Well,

Speaker 30 they should have changed his name to Buster Hyman.

Speaker 30 That was a guy that we always loved in school, but...

Speaker 30 No, you can't. Now, as we're going to talk about here coming up next with this next fiasco,

Speaker 30 they're actually trying to make in some respect the undisputed kingdom, aka the devil's henchmen, aka Adam Cole's group, or whatever the fuck this thing has been.

Speaker 30 After they spent

Speaker 30 the entire time telling us that Tavin and Bennett and Roderick Strong were complete comedy jackoffs and beat them like drums, and they couldn't beat anybody, they never won anything, and all they were doing was screaming like lunatics and playing with stuffed animals.

Speaker 30 Now they're putting him over and we're supposed to take him seriously.

Speaker 30 And what the fuck?

Speaker 30 And if, and to break Wardlow out of that is long overdue,

Speaker 30 but sometimes he's with them and sometimes he isn't.

Speaker 30 But the point is they can't get Wardlow over because the time has passed. The bloom is off the rose.

Speaker 30 And they missed their opportunity. He needs to go away.

Speaker 30 He needs to go to another company if he's ever going to do anything.

Speaker 30 But the only thing that these people give a shit about is they want to see him,

Speaker 30 powerbomb somebody, and beat them. His interview the other night, like he was a screaming fucking lunatic

Speaker 30 that there was a clip of from collision, where he's just screaming at the top of his lungs. He's trying to talk everybody into that his time is now.
No, your time is past. It's gone.

Speaker 30 It's in the archives, vapor, history. It's not coming back.
Look it up in the funking Wagnalls.

Speaker 30 So this is a completely fruitless task that if he spends time on it, it's going to get old quick. Tony, I'm talking about.

Speaker 30 If he actually spends time now trying to make Roddy and Tavin and Bennett and Wardlow,

Speaker 30 many, many of those I like. I've never met Wardlow, and I think his ceiling is limited because he can't fucking talk, and he's probably an idiot.

Speaker 30 But the other guys i've liked in the past but it's over you've pigeonholed them pal

Speaker 30 you've told people they're clowns they ain't gonna buy them now you've tainted your merchandise the meat is spoiled

Speaker 28 when mjf returns presuming he does one day

Speaker 30 somewhere over the rainbow do you put him back in a program with these guys of what the of course not

Speaker 28 because he never got his revenge obviously They conspired together to get rid of him.

Speaker 30 The whole reason why MJF should be out as long as possible is so people will have time to forget this ever happened.

Speaker 30 It was a goddamn fart in church. Nobody enjoyed it.

Speaker 30 And

Speaker 30 it's going to have no heat. Adam Cole is going to be so cold, he'll be frozen in an iceberg, like the 1951 version of the thing.

Speaker 30 It's

Speaker 30 no.

Speaker 30 The MGF needs to stay out long enough that either his contract expires and he can go home to fucking Triple H

Speaker 30 or until they forget all about what they did to him on the way out.

Speaker 30 And as again, Wardlow's done. And let's go ahead and advance to the next match here.
The dollar store title was on the line with Roderick Strong against our little puppy Pockets.

Speaker 30 And Roddy had Tavin and Bennett in his corner. And

Speaker 30 now Roddy's wearing a horror mask to the ring. Is he trying to usurp the devil's throne from Adam Cole while Adam's crippled? That's a horrible thing to do.

Speaker 30 And everybody,

Speaker 30 I think Roderick Strong's work is impeccable. And I think a lot of him.
And I understand his, his, his drawbacks, his weaknesses are his size and his promos.

Speaker 30 And I've been saying that for 15 years, but his fucking physical conditioning and his work, and you can get a great match out of almost anybody with Roddy.

Speaker 30 We found out here different because it's just an insult.

Speaker 30 And you can use him properly in an athletic sports-oriented fucking environment to where he's credible.

Speaker 30 But screaming and yelling,

Speaker 30 Adam, and all this fucking phony bullshit. They've already poisoned people on him here.
And it's not going to work.

Speaker 30 Since he's been here, he's been presented as a complete dingleberry.

Speaker 30 And meanwhile,

Speaker 30 he's working against Pockets, who is a complete dingleberry and has been presented as the most unbeatable fucking guy in the company. He has won over every top wrestler on the roster.

Speaker 30 Pockets, they put him over Samoa Joe.

Speaker 30 And Joe's now the world fucking champion.

Speaker 30 So now you've got a match where the dingleberry, who's a great talent, but is presented as an idiot who can't win,

Speaker 30 beats the dingleberry, who really is a dingleberry,

Speaker 30 who never loses.

Speaker 30 This is where they decide to beat this guy and take this fucking cheap ass fucking phony belt off of him.

Speaker 30 So, I mean, normally I'd be saying ding-dong the witch is dead. At least they beat the fucking goof.
The next step, hopefully, is the unemployment line. I know it's not.
I'm wishful thinking.

Speaker 30 But goddamn,

Speaker 30 not only is it more insulting to the business when somebody makes this idiot look like something

Speaker 30 approaching a real wrestler, and he can do the moves, so can a trained chimpanzee.

Speaker 30 But that would be a tribute to Roddy that he got anything out of him.

Speaker 30 But now you've spent all this time building this goof up to be unbeatable, and then you beat him with a guy that you've brought in and already fucking poisoned and ruined, and the fucking lowest guy on a totem pole.

Speaker 30 And he wins the thing.

Speaker 30 Help me understand what the fuck this decision was about.

Speaker 28 What the decision to put him over Orange Cassidy was about or the entire

Speaker 28 thinking of Orange Cassidy.

Speaker 30 Is the whole thing for this?

Speaker 30 not even a brand new well they brought old fucking light switch white in and wanted to push him as a big top heel he didn't fucking beat this fucking clown

Speaker 28 i don't remember did samoa joe on his way to the title choke this fucking guy out and leave him in a garbage can i don't remember it well he lost the tv title or uh his united uh nations channel whatever the fuck he has he lost it briefly and then he came back because remember when he lost it they were building up He's so tired.

Speaker 28 He's been defending it every week. He's broken down.
And then when he came back, it's like the same thing.

Speaker 28 Going right back to that.

Speaker 28 I can't explain it. Tony Khan likes Orange Cassidy.
Orange Cassidy has his fans. You could argue that he's one of those guys that makes the fans there happy, but doesn't help the company grow.

Speaker 28 They probably think he's one of the most marketable people they have and they love him.

Speaker 28 And they think he's a great wrestling mind.

Speaker 28 And

Speaker 30 And by the way, this great wrestling mind there, Pockets, the Heel beat him clean with a backbreaker.

Speaker 30 Tavin and Bennett didn't interfere.

Speaker 30 The Heel beat the babyface clean after all this with a fucking backbreaker.

Speaker 28 Well, that's the way Orange Cassidy would want it. Fair and square.

Speaker 30 How do you get heat off of that?

Speaker 28 No heat. Fair and square.
Clean cut.

Speaker 30 And then I'll just say one more thing. So that, because they had a surprise.

Speaker 30 Tavin and Bennett and Roddy are celebrating in the ring, and suddenly Kyle O'Reilly gets in the ring, looking like he's been homeless for the past year and a half. Not injured, but homeless.

Speaker 28 Why does everyone reappear on TV looking like that? Adam Cole, the same thing.

Speaker 30 I mean, dirty sweatpants that look like he dug them out of a dumpster and a fucking sweatshirt and his hair all disheveled and bags under his eyes.

Speaker 30 And he was making a mean face at Roddy behind his back, but then turned around and hugged him.

Speaker 30 And then everybody's happy to see him. And Bennett takes off his undisputed flatulent shirt or whatever their fucking group name is and gives it to him.

Speaker 30 And now Bennett looks like he's a bald 50-year-old truck driver.

Speaker 30 Why are these guys? He used to be a good-looking man 10, 12 years ago.

Speaker 30 He looked like, I thought he was like fucking...

Speaker 30 27, 28. Now he looks 55 and he's got not a hair on his head.

Speaker 28 I don't think he's 28 years old.

Speaker 30 He used to be.

Speaker 28 Well, he used to be, yes.

Speaker 30 Well, I'm talking, I said 10 or 12 years ago, he was a good-looking man, full head of hair, like 20-something years old. Now he's goddamn it in AARP fucking card.

Speaker 30 And he gives the shirt to Kyle O'Reilly, and Kyle turns around and gives it to fucking Roddy, whispers in Roddy's ear and walks off.

Speaker 30 This is the best way they could think of to bring Kyle O'Reilly back.

Speaker 30 He jumps in the ring, dressed dressed like a goddamn hobo fresh off a freight train, turns down a free t-shirt that's cleaner than what he's wearing, whispers to somebody and walks off.

Speaker 28 It's not a clean t-shirt if someone else was wearing it, it's cleaner than what he was wearing.

Speaker 28 Well, the return of Kyle O'Reilly, I presume he's cleared medically.

Speaker 30 And he didn't look like he'd been cleared mentally. It looked like they just talked him down off a bridge.

Speaker 30 What the? Why does everybody come out looking like shit?

Speaker 28 How come security lets them all just jump in the ring?

Speaker 30 Well, because they say, look at that guy, he looks like shit. We ain't gonna fuck with him.

Speaker 28 Stay away from that guy.

Speaker 30 Yeah.

Speaker 30 Well, speaking of staying away from people,

Speaker 30 we now come to the part of the program that we always dread where we are exposed to the airborne virus known as Plumber Moxley.

Speaker 30 This time, of course, he had his partner in clim climb. Partner in climb.

Speaker 28 Claudio

Speaker 30 Craudio Clastignoli.

Speaker 28 The climber.

Speaker 30 The fuck. And social climber.
And they were facing FTR. That's the tag team match.

Speaker 28 See, that's the problem. Claudio looks like a mountain climber.
He doesn't look like someone should be in a fucking wrestling ring. You have to keep telling everyone, he's the strongest man here.

Speaker 28 Really? He doesn't look it. He may be, but you have to keep convincing me for a reason.
He should be a mountain climber.

Speaker 30 Well,

Speaker 30 he used to just have single matches with quality opponents where he could show it. I was a fan of his work.
Now he hangs around with this fucking empty-headed dip shit plumber from

Speaker 30 the south side of Cincinnati. He's from Newport.
He needs to admit it. Moxley's from Newport, Kentucky.

Speaker 30 Fucking criminals. Newport, right?

Speaker 30 And FTR are in Greensboro.

Speaker 30 And you would, and in front of this many people, you would think that they would want to have the best possible match, that they would go over and above and beyond to have the best possible match.

Speaker 30 And guess what? It's not possible to have anything remotely resembling a best match if Moxley's involved. We have come to that conclusion.

Speaker 30 And

Speaker 30 I would feel sorry for them being wasted here on this big stage and their home state and blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 30 But what can you do anymore?

Speaker 30 And when

Speaker 30 Moxley and Claudio come out cosplaying as the Road Warriors with like

Speaker 30 kids' Halloween or potentially homemade Road Warrior spiked shoulder pads on.

Speaker 30 At that point, I predicted that FTR

Speaker 30 were going to lose and somebody was going to get choked out in a flat, decisive, and unexciting way.

Speaker 30 Little did I know that they were going to exceed even that pessimistic prognostication, Brian.

Speaker 30 I just,

Speaker 30 I made notes, and I don't even want to go in this much detail now with this thing.

Speaker 30 The crowd reacts to strikes and bumps, but then they sit and watch like it's a fucking boring tennis match

Speaker 30 in between because there's there's no heat on either team because even the heels moxley and claudio are technically not heels they've never tried to get heat they try to show what badasses they are they bury every baby face that they're in the ring with because of that but at same time

Speaker 30 ftr even the hometown favorites they've been cooled off so much can you imagine the ovation they would have gotten from this crowd in that building a year, year and a half ago, when they still had had something left of their reputation before they'd been completely choked out of them, people would have been going crazy.

Speaker 30 But now between these two, there's no rock and roll or road warriors, like that just people are just going to go ballistic in a positive fashion for us.

Speaker 30 You've got heels with no heat because they don't know how to be heels and they do the same shit all the time.

Speaker 30 And you've got the best tag team in the business in the ring that's colder than they've ever been. There's no title at stake.

Speaker 30 And we've already seen bad television interaction between these teams to promote this contest.

Speaker 30 So,

Speaker 30 and you know what? A cold match for no reason with no title at stake,

Speaker 30 FTR made that work with Robinson and Jay White, and they had the best match of modern times.

Speaker 30 But Moxley, the Moxley principle of him being involved in this, voids that possibility and makes it hopeless.

Speaker 30 And

Speaker 30 I start taking notes, Moxley takes Cash over the rail to fight in the front row. Long heat on Cash.
Moxley gets to give the finger on camera and say shit several times where you can hear it.

Speaker 30 Simultaneous cold tags to Dax and Claudio.

Speaker 30 Dax makes a comeback and Moxley rolls out so Dax can do a bunch of stuff to Claudio, while Moxley and Cash both kneel on the floor watching intently on camera and waiting for their cue.

Speaker 30 Dax gets posted and gets color and now they're beating Cash up again. So now one guy in FTR is getting his ass kicked and the other one's bleeding like a sieve.

Speaker 30 Now they kick the shit out of FTR

Speaker 30 And then Dax and the plumber stand in the middle of the ring trading forearms at a snail's pace.

Speaker 30 Have you ever seen a snail's pace, Brian? Have you ever studied a snail while it went about its daily walk?

Speaker 28 I've seen a snail move. I've never studied its pace.

Speaker 30 It doesn't have a quick pace.

Speaker 30 Then FTR both spike paldrove Moxley for a two-count. He kicked out.

Speaker 30 Now they did a four-way where they all stood there and traded forearms.

Speaker 30 Then they set up so many ducks and counters and switches and reverses with FTR again trying to be too complicated for their opponents to grasp.

Speaker 30 It looked like four drunks from a car wreck breaking into a square dance.

Speaker 30 Hands, swing your partner to and fro, kick him in the balls, and step on his toe.

Speaker 30 So then

Speaker 30 FTR hit their double team off the top rope, and Moxley kicked out.

Speaker 30 FTR hit the shatter machine on

Speaker 30 Moxley, and Claudio saved.

Speaker 30 And then

Speaker 30 they gave Cash a big move on the floor.

Speaker 30 No, I'm sorry, Dax gave Claudio a pile driver on the floor.

Speaker 30 Moxley gave Dax the shitty double-arm DDT and got a two count.

Speaker 30 And then Dax

Speaker 30 rolled Moxley up and got a two count. And Moxley just rolled right over and got the choke on Dax.
And Cash tried to make the save, and Claudio got the choke on him.

Speaker 30 So now there's Claudio with the choke on Cash and Moxley with the choke on Dax. And everybody is in the middle of the ring, immobile for 10 seconds.

Speaker 30 And then the referee rang the bell. They choked both of them out at the same time.

Speaker 30 I swear to God, I've seen teams leaving the fucking territory with heat with the Booker.

Speaker 30 that didn't fucking get beat like this.

Speaker 30 Okay,

Speaker 30 we're going to get fucking color on one of them, and then we're going to get a long heat on both of them, and then we're going to beat the other one. That'd be bad enough.

Speaker 30 But when you, I okay, we're going to get color on one, long heat on both, and then we're going to choke both of them out at the same time.

Speaker 30 That's a fucking rib.

Speaker 30 That's a, that's

Speaker 28 pitching. In your hometown.

Speaker 30 In your home state. Yes.

Speaker 30 Pitching this finish in the locker room in any of the territories would have led to a fucking fight.

Speaker 30 That one side would have expected the other side to go for it. That side would have been offended.
How fucking stupid do you think we are?

Speaker 30 I have seen people nose to nose over proposed finishes that were not this fucking preposterous. And they actually did this on purpose.

Speaker 30 They beat him bloody, survived every big move they had, beat him up for most of 20 minutes, and then choked both of them out in front of the referee

Speaker 30 who did nothing about it but ring the bell, even though it's completely and totally illegal for both members of a team to have a chokehold, a submission hold, or any other fucking thing on both the members of the other team at the same fucking time.

Speaker 30 Jesus fucking Christ.

Speaker 30 Because this goddamn CTE-ridden, delusional, sunken-chested, buggy-whipped-armed, balding, fishy-white, fucking vegetable plumber

Speaker 30 thinks he's a goddamn vampire

Speaker 30 and a badass.

Speaker 30 We all of us have to go through this nonsense.

Speaker 30 And somebody, nobody has the fucking balls to tell him, fuck you.

Speaker 30 Who the fuck do you think you are?

Speaker 30 You may cosplay Road Warrior Animal,

Speaker 30 but I think you're more like goddamn cowboy Lang.

Speaker 30 Step back in your fucking place.

Speaker 30 Everything he does is phony.

Speaker 30 It looks like shit.

Speaker 30 It's a business experience. He blades on camera.
He's a potty mouth anytime he gets close to a microphone. He's determined to get him censored off of fucking television.

Speaker 28 It's fitting that he won the Bruiser Brody Best Brawler Award because he wrestles like Brody. Brody was 6'6 ⁇ , 6'7.

Speaker 28 Yeah.

Speaker 28 300 pounds. But that's how Moxley wrestles.
He sells nothing. Even when he goes down, he hops back up or rolls right out.

Speaker 28 It's ridiculous. It's every match that he still has fans.
Claudio's now doing this style.

Speaker 28 And why would anyone want to see FTR? It's not even just this match, this whole feud. They got there asking how many times by these guys.

Speaker 28 and then they had a match to settle the score, and they got choked out in their hometown.

Speaker 28 Maybe they are finishing up, I don't think so, but I mean, that's the way they were treated.

Speaker 30 I think maybe somebody needs to tell them something.

Speaker 30 They need to be getting the fucking picture. Get the Iggy.

Speaker 28 Moxley came out there dressed like a bootleg Road Warrior. At least Claudio, you know, there's no shirt and he has some muscles.
He looks like a very, very lean Road Warrior hawk.

Speaker 30 He looked like Rick Rude cosplaying his hawk.

Speaker 28 Yeah, that's actually a great example. Yes.
Minus the fro.

Speaker 28 Yeah. And then Moxley's out there wearing a t-shirt under it.
Even with that, you're like, man.

Speaker 28 You know, I never realized it. Not anyone could wear those shoulder pads.
Not anyone could look good as a Road Warrior. It wasn't just the shoulder pads and the makeup.
It was them and their size.

Speaker 28 Moxley, like you said, because we've seen him in AEW

Speaker 28 in better shape and tan,

Speaker 28 and he looks more like a badass then

Speaker 37 than now.

Speaker 30 You're being charitable.

Speaker 30 There's still the matter of his shitty work.

Speaker 28 His work's horrible. No, he's one of the worst wrestlers of modern times, which makes it infuriating that anyone likes him.
Again, we always say it's a cult of personality around him.

Speaker 28 But his work is horrible. It looks bad, and it's all just about him doing what he wants.
He's like a dirtbag youngbucks.

Speaker 28 He's only going to do what he wants, and it's all going to be about making himself look as good as he wants.

Speaker 30 So let me ask you this, and then we'll move on.

Speaker 30 If Moxley ceased to exist on the planet Earth tomorrow, would it affect AEW's business? Would the ratings change in any way? Would the house show ticket sales change in any way?

Speaker 30 Would anything change in any way besides we wouldn't have to watch him cutting his head with a razor blade on national television?

Speaker 28 Let me put it a little differently than you laid out the question. If John Moxley decided to take his millions of dollars and his family and move to Aruba

Speaker 28 and stay in Aruba and get that tan back and enjoy his life,

Speaker 28 I don't think it would hurt AEW short-term or long-term. If anything,

Speaker 28 with a traditional booker, it would help AEW because it would force them to create some new people to get to that point of the elevated Jon Moxley push.

Speaker 28 But instead, he's going to still be there.

Speaker 28 And we're just going to get more of this.

Speaker 28 Every bad idea he has, from hey, let's do Rocky III to, hey, let's create a Blackpool tribute group for the guy who's going to quit the company in a few months.

Speaker 28 Every idea is awful. And every idea is about just some faux badass fantasy.
that I'm sick of.

Speaker 28 And it even now makes me, it's like, it even now makes me sick of the wrestlers I like.

Speaker 28 Like FTR. I don't want to see FTR anymore.
That was the worst way to kill off FTR in Greensboro.

Speaker 28 Those were the loudest FTR chants they've had in months and forever. We'll see what happens in the tag team division.
Things are heating up, certainly.

Speaker 30 Oh, we'll get there in a second. But here's a question.
Can you scuba in Aruba?

Speaker 28 Yes, you can. Scuba in Aruba.

Speaker 30 That's another reason, Moxley. Move to Aruba.

Speaker 28 Well, if he wants to scuba, go to the Keys. I think the Keys in the West will be better.

Speaker 30 Well, wherever, but Moxley looks best floating in water because that's what he looks like. A fucking corpse floating down the River Thames.

Speaker 28 Really? In England now.

Speaker 28 How his body in the ocean got over.

Speaker 30 Yeah, because

Speaker 30 he's the star of a Hitchcock movie.

Speaker 30 All right. So then Deanna wrestled Tony Storm.
And after the first two hours of this fucking pay-per-view, I am not,

Speaker 30 no, not spending my time on this.

Speaker 30 I assume Tony won. I saw the screen went to black and white and fast forward.

Speaker 28 Tony won. Mariah Mae was dressed like Tony Storm was a few years ago.

Speaker 28 And

Speaker 28 the AEW Women's Division continues to be a leader in sports entertainment.

Speaker 30 Well, speaking of leading people into sports entertainment, we were led to believe in the next match by Don Fallus, the leader of the Fallus family, that it was going to be the greatest match of the decade between Will Ostrich and I'm back to calling him take a shit now.

Speaker 30 Boy howdy, did they all take a shit right in the middle of the ring with it?

Speaker 30 They obviously, there was no reason for this match to happen. It was blurted out by Don Fallus himself that, you know,

Speaker 30 we can't find any competition. So

Speaker 30 members of my family are going to face each other with the thought of having the greatest match of the decade, which, of course, makes absolutely no sense why he would want this to happen.

Speaker 30 Because why would the evil manager care about having the greatest match of anything or a good match or whatever when his guys would be fighting? It would create dissension and ill will in his group.

Speaker 30 He wouldn't want that because one of his guys has to lose. So this made no sense.
And Brian, you and I, looking deeper, analyzed this as well. They fucked up.

Speaker 30 They realized that they signed Ostrich and put him in the heel group three months ago and then let him come back and finish or go back and finish his New Japan commitments and then come back.

Speaker 30 And now they realize they got no babyfaces worth a shit. The people are cheering their heels.
and booing the babyfaces out of the building.

Speaker 30 So they're going to switch this. They're going to make Ostrich a baby face.

Speaker 30 And that's why he came out the other night slapping hands and shaking hands and smiling at the fans and giving the rah-rah speech and everybody cheering him, being happy.

Speaker 30 But then Take a shit was glaring at him

Speaker 30 and you could smell something was going to happen. Okay, so they're going to.

Speaker 30 Ostrich is going to win. The heel group is going to turn on him.
And now everybody's in the right place.

Speaker 30 Except that's not what they fucking did.

Speaker 30 What they did was nothing.

Speaker 30 They had a match, and it was over,

Speaker 30 and nobody did shit.

Speaker 30 And

Speaker 30 I assume that it was our boy Willie that was calling this thing because he between him and Take, he's the veteran,

Speaker 30 and he's the new big, glorious signee that's going to be a game changer. So I'm assuming he's calling his thing.

Speaker 30 He's been in Japan too long.

Speaker 30 They start out and they start wrestling and the fans start doing the fucking Ole, Ole, Ole, Ole, soccer chant deal for him because he's from England. Did you see what they did?

Speaker 28 What did they do?

Speaker 30 They kept right on doing their chain wrestling.

Speaker 30 He didn't stop. He didn't fucking milk them.
He didn't work. He didn't let the people have their fucking thing.

Speaker 30 They're enjoying doing the ole, ole, ole, which had nothing to do with the goddamn dry ass chain wrestling. It was so dry you had to watch it in the rain.
It was going on at the same time.

Speaker 30 Two different things were happening.

Speaker 30 And he can't fucking, he can't listen to people because you don't listen to people in Japan.

Speaker 30 Because it doesn't make any sense if you do. That's why all these guys are fucking poisoned.

Speaker 30 Both these guys guys are athletic. They're in shape.
They can move.

Speaker 30 They

Speaker 30 do

Speaker 30 all the same things that everybody else on this roster do, but they usually execute them either quicker, sharper, or better.

Speaker 30 But

Speaker 30 there is no breakout superstar here. Take has plenty of potential, as we've talked about.
And he needs to be trained and guided and produced and brought along.

Speaker 30 He's not like going to fucking just instantly break out like he is right now. Neither is Ostrich

Speaker 30 because he doing more of the same shit that everybody else on the show has already done for the past five years, just a little better.

Speaker 30 This is not a bronze situation where by force of personality, a motherfucker is going to smash himself into the main events.

Speaker 30 They stood in the middle of the ring and traded chops and forearms.

Speaker 30 And then at one point, Take gave Will a superplex and got a two count and then grabbed a chin lock on him.

Speaker 30 I'm glad he still kept working the same body part that is affected by the superplex off the top rope.

Speaker 30 You see what I'm saying?

Speaker 28 Just doing shit.

Speaker 30 And

Speaker 30 Take a shit's the heel, but he's not cheating. And he doesn't have heat.

Speaker 30 And Ostrich is the babyface, but he's in the heel group. And the heel manager is on color putting them both over.

Speaker 30 And still can't explain why he wanted this to happen.

Speaker 30 And that's why

Speaker 30 I wrote this. As this plods along, I fail to see how this match is noticeably different from any other AEW match, except these guys are in better shape.

Speaker 30 And they did several big moves in a row. They didn't sell and popped right up from them.
Then they got on their knees and traded forearms. Then they got on their feet and traded forearms.

Speaker 30 Can they watch Tape from the 80s to learn how to work?

Speaker 30 Oh, wait a minute. There's more.

Speaker 30 Take acted like he was knocked out by a forearm and the referee was checking him.

Speaker 30 And so after ostrich has knocked him out with the forearm and the referee's checking him,

Speaker 30 Will goes over and doesn't cover him. He pulls him up by the hair and gives him taunting kicks in the corner.
And he's the babyface.

Speaker 30 Then they do a brief gymnastics routine followed by false finishes.

Speaker 30 Then

Speaker 30 Take gave Ostrich some kind of suplex in the corner and almost broke his neck, dropped him straight down.

Speaker 28 That was brutal. Not just his neck, but he even showed the mark at the media scrum afterwards, his back.

Speaker 30 Yes.

Speaker 28 Oh my gosh. For a guy that has injury issues or, you know, wrestles this style, that's brutal.

Speaker 30 Well, the thing is, those ropes will rip all the skin off of you. He dropped him straight down.

Speaker 30 And then

Speaker 30 at one point, Take hit a couple of really nice moves that looked good. Don't know what, you know, fucking what they call them.

Speaker 30 But

Speaker 30 Ostrich popped right up without even registering it and leveled Take a shit and covered him. And then Take a shit kicked out at one.

Speaker 30 And this is all the shit that makes modern wrestling interchangeable and unwatchable because it's just this this constantly. And yes, the AEW fans, they just love

Speaker 30 that stuff.

Speaker 30 And that's why it damages the business and it's constricting because we've all seen all this so much that there's fewer and fewer people that will stick with it to see more of it.

Speaker 30 And then, by the way, did you see?

Speaker 30 Ostrich hits the styles clash and Sockface called it that.

Speaker 30 What's he supposed to call it supposed to call it a what a maneuver rather than remind everybody of a big star on another

Speaker 30 show

Speaker 30 and then uh

Speaker 30 ostrich did the double arm deal and dropped take right on his head it looked like it broke his neck but he didn't cover him

Speaker 30 even though he's laying there motionless he pulled off his elbow pad

Speaker 30 came from behind while Take was on his knees, and Ostrich slapped his leg with his left hand while swinging his right arm over the top of Take a Shit's head.

Speaker 30 And there was no way for Take a Shit to take a bump. He just had to collapse, and he covered him one, two, three.

Speaker 30 So out of all these goddamn big moves in this match, the shittiest looking thing is the finish.

Speaker 30 And then, as I mentioned, nothing happened. Don gets in the ring to check on Take a Shit.
Here comes Kyle Felcher, the other juvenile delinquent involved in this group.

Speaker 30 He comes down to the ring and you think, okay, well, here's going to be the deal. Now they're all going to turn on Ostrich.

Speaker 30 Ostrich and Take a Shit bowed to each other. Don left the ring and the announcer said, well, Wednesday night on Dynamite on TV, it's going to be Will Ostrich versus Kyle Felcher.

Speaker 30 And Ostrich and Felcher then give each other a big hug. and walk out together holding hands up the ramp.

Speaker 30 What the fuck is this?

Speaker 28 Well, there it is. That was a hell of a match.
Now, I will say a lot of people are saying it was match of the year, obviously.

Speaker 30 Wait, wait, hold on. What in the

Speaker 30 Brian,

Speaker 30 match of the year, even if you like

Speaker 30 the fucking Twinkletoes style of wrestling that these people have adopted, this wasn't even the best of that.

Speaker 28 Was this the best of something that you have seen this year no matter what that particular subject may be it wasn't my match of the year i didn't hate it but i also kind of knew what to expect they weren't gonna all of a sudden work a different style i didn't expect the it was just a weird dynamic too like you said the heel manager on commentary putting both of these guys over

Speaker 30 but well that's what they told no story there is no story to tell there is no stories over this there's no That's not AEW strong suit storytelling.

Speaker 28 It's more about in-ring, do what you can, balls to the wall.

Speaker 30 So people are calling this a potential match of the year.

Speaker 28 There are people who are raving about this match, saying match of the year,

Speaker 28 one of the great matches.

Speaker 28 There are people calling this the greatest pay-per-view of all time, apparently.

Speaker 28 Again, not what I think, but I've seen it, people doing it.

Speaker 28 It's

Speaker 28 stunning.

Speaker 30 Okay, well,

Speaker 30 you know what? If I'd only been born 40 years later, I could have gotten a wrestling business.

Speaker 30 Instead of being a manager, I could have been the goddamn biggest wrestling star in the world because it's so easy now. And they don't care whether you fucking look like anything or not.

Speaker 30 And you can, goddamn, when I got into business, I was almost 200 pounds. I'd be Andre the Giant now.

Speaker 30 The fuck? It's this easy?

Speaker 30 All right, Brian.

Speaker 30 Well, we're getting down to nut cutting time, as JR would say, and that's apropos because they brought JR out to do color for the two main, the double main event, the world title match or the world tag team title match.

Speaker 30 And,

Speaker 30 I don't know why they fucking,

Speaker 30 why they wait until people are have seen every possible thing in the world before they trot J.R. out.
Otherwise,

Speaker 30 if he'd been out there this whole time, he would have already either gone to sleep or been so impatient, he would have been openly knocking everything.

Speaker 28 You know know what? This was the most energy I think we've heard from him in a very long time.

Speaker 30 Well, it was a big night, big moment. He was, I'm sure, trying to get up for it with all of his health issues he's had and everything.
But God, I wish he had something better to work with.

Speaker 30 Here you've got the artiste who paints in voice, and he's got a canvas of fucking mud.

Speaker 30 Anyway,

Speaker 30 the world title match, the three-way, triple threat, whatever, hangnail Page, Swerve Strickland, and Samoa Joe.

Speaker 30 Instead of getting Joe and Swerve,

Speaker 30 Hangnail had to worm his way into this thing and spoil it. And now

Speaker 30 I don't particularly care about seeing Joe and Swerve as much because we've already seen them a lot in this because there was a lot of everybody in this because this again went easily 20 minutes fucking bell-to-bell or more.

Speaker 30 And

Speaker 30 they just had, again, they had an eight-way

Speaker 30 as a preliminary match when they knew they had a three-way for their world title match. And I don't care if you like the matches or not, you can sit there as a fan and like the matches.

Speaker 30 But as a professional, I'm offended with the way that he puts his shows together.

Speaker 30 I'm offended not only as a former booker, but I'm offended as a former talent for the current talent that has to suffer the way Tony fucking books in his goddamn deranged mind.

Speaker 30 So it's disrespectful. Anyway,

Speaker 30 I know you're going to find this hard to believe, Brian, but it was three guys taking turns doing

Speaker 30 moves to each other.

Speaker 30 And

Speaker 30 they would double powerbomb Joe, and then they'd start punching each other without selling it.

Speaker 30 Or Paige was punching Swerve, and Swerve was laughing at him while he was doing it.

Speaker 30 And then

Speaker 30 Swerve knocks Joe out with a kick, but doesn't cover him.

Speaker 30 He stands there and waits for 25 seconds and then kicks Paige in the head and covers him and gets a two count.

Speaker 30 And then Paige disappears and Joe and Swerve fight.

Speaker 30 And

Speaker 30 at one point,

Speaker 30 did you see where Joe

Speaker 30 He knocked him down,

Speaker 30 knocked Joe down with some kind of move and Joe is selling?

Speaker 30 And he sits there for for 15 seconds in one place staring at Swerve climbing the rope standing on the top and coming off and giving him a double stomp he was sitting there looking at the man sitting in the position to be stomped forever

Speaker 28 and then he couldn't believe what he was seeing I couldn't so he froze

Speaker 30 I wish I could say I was frozen I was vibrating and then when Swerve covers Joe, he gets a two-count, and Paige is supposed to pull the referee out, but he's late, so Joe has to kick out anyway.

Speaker 30 Then Paige pulls the referee to the floor, and the referee is going to sell, being pulled to the floor for the next five minutes.

Speaker 30 There are people who have been in serious car accidents that have been able to at least get up and climb up the fucking hill,

Speaker 30 but the referee sells forever.

Speaker 30 Then Paige gets the belt, and he hits Swerve in the head with it.

Speaker 30 And he stands there for 15 seconds, and then he hits him again.

Speaker 30 And then he goes out to the apron and yells at Swerve.

Speaker 30 And then he puts the belt down on the apron because he's finished using it. The match isn't over, but he doesn't figure he'll need it anymore.

Speaker 30 While this is going on,

Speaker 30 Joe has stood up and started staggering because he knows he's supposed to get buckshot lariated.

Speaker 30 But apparently he didn't know that Paige was not only going to hit swerve once with the belt, he's going to go over and hit him again. Then he's going to go out on the apron and fucking yell at him.

Speaker 30 Then he's going to turn around and get set for the buckshot. And Joe has been having to stagger this whole time.
And Paige goes for the buckshot and he hits it.

Speaker 30 He hits it. Joe just stands there and lets him hit it.

Speaker 30 And then another one.

Speaker 30 And then he covers, but Tony Schiavone,

Speaker 30 who, by the way, we've established is a year or two older than me.

Speaker 30 He's a 60-something-year-old white man

Speaker 30 who then screams, there's no referee, dude.

Speaker 30 Brian, if I ever said the word dude while I was doing commentary on a major television wrestling promotion, I would want to be shot in the back parking lot like old Yeller.

Speaker 28 I wish someone would shoot Shiavani and Excalibur to the moon. They kill every broadcast they kill.

Speaker 28 They have the best time laughing at things when it's serious. And then when it's serious, you can't take them serious.
Shiavani just yells out compliments.

Speaker 28 And Excalibur is one of the all-time worst.

Speaker 30 Well, fortunately, a new referee came in about then. The old one had only been down for about three or four minutes.
And the cover, but the two count because Joe kicked out.

Speaker 30 So then Job ducks the third buck shot and gets a choke, but Swerve breaks it up.

Speaker 30 Well, then Nana gives Swerve the crown.

Speaker 30 And Swerve's going to use it, but then he thinks better of it and throws it back. And Joe gets a choke on Swerve.

Speaker 30 And Swerve rolls him up for a two count, but Paige jumps off

Speaker 30 or jumps in, rather.

Speaker 30 And instead of making the save, he jumps on the second referee and beats him up just over and over, boom, boom, boom, and throws him to the floor.

Speaker 30 So then everybody lariats everybody.

Speaker 30 And Swerve dropped Paige on his head. And Joe suplexed Swerve and got the choke on Paige.

Speaker 30 And the original referee, who is finally conscious, comes in and Joe's got the choke on Paige, and Paige taps out.

Speaker 30 Another

Speaker 30 20 unending minutes. And

Speaker 30 is Tony insisting on these finishes, or do these guys think that they're good in some? Because Joe knows better than this over-booked horseshit.

Speaker 30 That's what happened. So we beat the guy that shouldn't have been in the match to begin with, and nobody wanted to see.

Speaker 30 So now I guess he thinks, well, we can still have Joe and Swerve. But in the meantime, we've seen plenty of Joe and Swerve now.

Speaker 30 The mystery is over there.

Speaker 30 What'd you think?

Speaker 28 I kind of agree with what you said. I'm not a big fan of these three-way matches.
Wasn't a big fan of this one. I wasn't a big fan of this feud and this buildup.

Speaker 28 At least Adam Page now is clearly a heel to anyone who is doubting it. Swerve is clearly a babyface as he's been.

Speaker 28 He's a manager. And I guess this all continues, or at least their hatred of each other continues.
And

Speaker 28 Joe gets a new challenger, maybe Wardlow or someone else.

Speaker 28 Wow. Yeah.

Speaker 28 But we still have the main event.

Speaker 30 We certainly do. And isn't that sad? Who is going to challenge for the world title that we would give a shit about at this point?

Speaker 30 Well,

Speaker 30 they got bigger problems over in the the tag team division, Brian, because there's big things on the horizon after this main event match of the pay-per-view, Sting's retirement.

Speaker 30 That's why they sold the tickets, that's why the crowd was there, that was the interest of the pay-per-view.

Speaker 30 The rest of this stuff has just been bad in time. As I said a little while ago, they had one job.

Speaker 30 One job. Just give Sting a nice fucking send-off, right?

Speaker 30 Well, we shall see.

Speaker 30 The opening legend to enter was Ric Flair in Greensboro at the Coliseum.

Speaker 30 And down the aisle he comes and he gets a nice ovation. I'm sure you heard it.
Very, very nice.

Speaker 30 And then

Speaker 30 the second one to come out is Ricky Steamboat, and he got a bigger pop than Flair.

Speaker 30 Do you think is it just that.

Speaker 28 No one's sick sick of him.

Speaker 30 Well, I was about to say they've seen Flare so much on TV, even if it wasn't live, whereas Steamboat has the goddamn good common sense that God gave a goose, as Mama Cornette used to say, to stay out of sight most of the time and rest on his laurels as a retired legend.

Speaker 28 Steamboat never embarrasses you if you're a fan of his.

Speaker 30 No.

Speaker 30 And

Speaker 30 of all the people involved in this, he's the only one that I I felt bad and embarrassed for because the other ones brought it on themselves. But

Speaker 30 I can't imagine what he's thinking when he sees this and just shaking his head. Anyway, Nikita Koloff, Magnum T.A.
and Scotty Riggs were in the front row. One of these things is not like the other.

Speaker 30 They couldn't even introduce them. And, you know, it just, they were in the front row looking on.

Speaker 28 Reportedly, WWE turned down Kevin Nash's request, or at least when he asked if he could go, they said they would prefer if he didn't because he's under a Legends deal and Sting wanted him to be there.

Speaker 30 Well, yeah, but would he have then been in the front row? He could do the parade wave or a brief on camera, or what the fuck? Nikita Koloff.

Speaker 28 Next to Scotty Riggs, yeah.

Speaker 30 Well, but Nikita and Scotty Riggs should have been in the front row. I mean, you know, all do love and respect Scotty Riggs, but what does he have to do with this?

Speaker 30 Magnum and Nikita were two of

Speaker 30 not only the the biggest stars to ever wrestle in the Greensboro Coliseum, but Nieta and Sting had

Speaker 30 some interaction.

Speaker 30 And

Speaker 28 anyway,

Speaker 30 they spent plenty of time on the Buckaroos entrance. Here come the lollipop guild.
They had glorious music.

Speaker 30 They were wearing satin robes. Their hair was dyed black.

Speaker 30 They looked like two children cosplaying as Gomez Adams.

Speaker 30 And they had cannons to shoot off their business cards.

Speaker 30 So the robes were reminiscent of,

Speaker 30 you know, in the days when

Speaker 30 Rocky was a hot movie, you know, you might see some kids wearing these robes or whatever, but now they fancy themselves boxers, or was this just to get heat for looking as like as big a douchebags as possible?

Speaker 30 They've already got that trademarked.

Speaker 28 Yeah.

Speaker 30 So then

Speaker 30 here came Darby, and he gets his entrance and his introduction, and then

Speaker 30 blackout,

Speaker 30 and piano music starts playing, and it wasn't Billy Joel.

Speaker 30 The longer it went, the more I believe that somebody's friend or cousin is taking piano lessons in the company.

Speaker 28 It wasn't me. Who the fuck was that? It wasn't me.

Speaker 30 No, your shit sounds better.

Speaker 30 Thank you. Exactly.

Speaker 30 So then they went to the dramatic video where Sting is in a theater

Speaker 30 and he's watching on the screen and they open the, you can tell, Darby had to shoot this

Speaker 30 because,

Speaker 30 yeah, there's a germ of things there, but, you know. The curtain opens and he looks at all his career on the screen.

Speaker 30 They had pictures of him when he was in WCW because because they don't own the footage. And then some highlights of him in Japan

Speaker 30 and

Speaker 30 stuff that he's done recently. And I just made the note, this looks so amateur hour for something of this magnitude or alleged magnitude.

Speaker 30 And the WWE would have made magic here with some kind of production, right?

Speaker 30 But this is,

Speaker 30 you know, one of the guys that went to film school shooting it on his off day. What the.

Speaker 28 I didn't think this was that bad. I thought this was all right.

Speaker 30 I mean, it was better than what you normally see on AEW television, but for something that they need.

Speaker 30 If they're going to have a national television show, they need real fucking production.

Speaker 30 Again, can you imagine what this would have looked like on Fox on SmackDown or on any of their premium live events? They would have.

Speaker 30 They would have sent a crew and a few trucks and they would have shot for a few days and they would have come up with something that they could have nominated for an

Speaker 30 And Sting says, it's showtime for the last time. Let's do this.

Speaker 30 And they go back to the arena

Speaker 30 and they play the music again. But now it's seek and destroy, right?

Speaker 30 And out comes

Speaker 30 Sting dressed as surfer Sting with the red, white, and blue, the great American Bash 90 type of look, the blonde hair.

Speaker 30 And

Speaker 30 there was a germ of something here, but they fucked it up

Speaker 30 because it's Sting's sons dressed up as him, surfer sting and then crow sting at two different phases of his career. When he came out, it looked like, because they had the long shot,

Speaker 30 it could have been Sting.

Speaker 30 It could have been Sting dressed up in his own, and the people popped, right?

Speaker 30 But then they go to a close-up with one of the handheld cameras and you can tell it's not Sting.

Speaker 30 And then the Crow Sting walks in. Well, now you know that the other one ain't Sting.
And so that one probably ain't either.

Speaker 30 They botched their opportunity. If they'd have kept the long shot, then people would have thought that Sting when Crow Sting walked out.
Oh shit, are they doing a split screen?

Speaker 30 And then when Real Sting walks in between them,

Speaker 30 then they would have gotten that visual pop of the people couldn't tell that it were fake Stings. Obviously, one of them had to be, but

Speaker 30 then they could have said, oh, it's Sting sons. Sons.
But instead, they took a close-up of the first fucking guy out, and you could tell he had a fat face.

Speaker 30 They had the opportunity to do a little production sleight of hand, and they dropped the ball on it. Am I being too critical here?

Speaker 28 I mean, you're being critical. Was it perfect? Probably not, but it was a nice thing.
And,

Speaker 28 you know, I will say I started laughing, maybe for the wrong reasons when this was going on, because, again, it's a nice tribute, but where else would, where,

Speaker 28 where else would someone retire and their children in their 30s would show up dressed like they used to dress

Speaker 28 and then just start doing their moves? I mean, it's ridiculous on its face.

Speaker 30 Well, we ain't got there yet. And you told me beforehand, you watched it before I did.
You said

Speaker 30 you enjoyed the ridiculousness of the spectacle that it was, or whatever. Yeah.

Speaker 30 Oh, well, let's get there then. It's by the way, Sting's AEW record 28-0.
He never put anybody over.

Speaker 28 Selfish Sting. Old, selfish Sting.

Speaker 30 But no, he was never out of Sting.

Speaker 28 I know, I know, I know.

Speaker 30 But goddamn, that's the thing. Of course, he shouldn't lose his retirement match.
But all that money you've invested,

Speaker 30 they never set one guy up. to get the a young guy on the way up to get the rub of beating stay MJF when he was a heel.

Speaker 30 Nothing.

Speaker 28 anyway, no, in fact, there was a promo once where Sting kind of punked out MJF, and I was like, oh, wow, they may do something with these two, and then they never did anything with those two.

Speaker 28 But I guess Tony, when he started AEW, was just obsessed with the idea of getting a WCW legend and giving them a long undefeated streak.

Speaker 30 Tony's affection and affinity for nitro and all things late 90s WCW, which is why

Speaker 30 the biggest example of rotten booking ever, late 90s WCW that led to the fucking crash of the most well-funded wrestling company to that point in time of all time is what he wants to emulate.

Speaker 30 So he's doing good there.

Speaker 30 So at the bell to ring to start the match, Darby hit a dive on both of the buckaroos on the floor.

Speaker 30 And then Stinger started hitting Stinger splashes. And then his sons jumped in the ring

Speaker 30 and they did stinger stumbles. They did back and forth.
They were doing stinger splashes to the fucking little buckaroos in the corner and just constantly.

Speaker 30 And by the way, this is a tornado match with no rules and no disqualification and no count out

Speaker 30 and a lazy booking.

Speaker 30 And

Speaker 30 you got a 65-year-old legend that you're trying to

Speaker 30 give a great match to on the way out. So there's always going to be smoke and mirrors.
But

Speaker 30 the smoke is not usually from shit really on fire, and the mirrors usually don't have real glass in them that people are thrown through.

Speaker 30 Sting got the scorpion on both bucks at the same time and then beat both of them up on the floor with chairs while his sons were setting up tables.

Speaker 30 And Darby was putting a 12-foot ladder up, at least 12 feet, maybe 15.

Speaker 30 And then

Speaker 30 everything came to a complete halt while Sting and one of his sons and somebody they all started pulling out panes of glass from under the ring.

Speaker 30 And

Speaker 30 then suddenly it looked like it was a goddamn window replacement job where everybody's carefully carrying panes of glass to different places to set them up where they're supposed to be while nothing else is fucking happening.

Speaker 30 And they've got one pane of glass leaned up against the ring. And they've got on the other side of the ring, three chairs lined up on one side and three chairs lined up on the other side.

Speaker 30 And they put the pane of glass in the middle of that.

Speaker 30 And then

Speaker 30 Sting's got his baseball bat, and they do a spot where he swings at one of the buckaroos, and he moves, and Sting hits the metal stairs real hard for the sound, right?

Speaker 30 But then he turns around, and the other one's behind him, him, and he swings at the other buckaroo, and that one ducks.

Speaker 30 And he hits the glass with the bat, but it doesn't break. So he draws back and just hits it again and breaks it on purpose.

Speaker 30 And I'm what the

Speaker 30 we'll talk about the glass and

Speaker 30 see if we can figure out what the fuck with it here in a few minutes. But at that point,

Speaker 30 they walk-fighted

Speaker 30 or walk-fought

Speaker 30 all through the arena to go back to the stage so that all four of them were on the stage.

Speaker 30 And Nikki suplex Darby off the stage through two tables set up with black cloth over the top of them.

Speaker 30 But then Maddie,

Speaker 30 Maddie suplex Sting off the stage on the other side through two tables covered up in black cloth.

Speaker 30 And then

Speaker 30 Darby and the Buckaroos go back to the ring and they buckle bomb Darby on a ladder in the corner, but moments later he's up making a comeback, beating up both of them.

Speaker 30 And I wrote, this is a complete fucking farce of this. This is a parody.

Speaker 30 So then

Speaker 30 Darby set up the ladder

Speaker 30 in the middle of the ring and went to almost the top of it. And just

Speaker 30 as Nikki, for no apparent reason, is just staggering in front of the chairs with the panes of or the pane of glass,

Speaker 30 Darby does a cannonball off the top, and the other dipshit brother pulls one brother out of the way, and Darby goes back first off a 15-foot ladder in a ring

Speaker 30 through the glass, through the chairs, and to the concrete floor.

Speaker 30 And everything explodes everywhere. And they also, at some point, there was another pane of, yeah, they throw him and through glass later on, Sting,

Speaker 30 that was leaned up up in the ring in the corner. So when he went ass first through it, it shot glass everywhere in the crowd.
Now, here's two things. Was it real glass or was it fake glass?

Speaker 30 Well,

Speaker 30 to be honest, I don't know because these people are stupid enough to use the real shit.

Speaker 30 But it cut Darby Allen's back open everywhere. He was punctured and sliced and whatever the fuck.

Speaker 30 But besides that, it blew into a million pieces.

Speaker 30 So whether it was fake glass or real glass, if you get that in your eye, if the crowd, if somebody opened their mouth at the right time, it went down their fucking throat.

Speaker 30 Or some kid, it lands in their drink and they drink and, oh, I'm choking, mommy. I might, the carotid is sliced from the inside out.

Speaker 30 What the fuck? And whether it was fake glass or not, it was a real bump off a 15-foot ladder, threw shit onto chairs on the concrete.

Speaker 30 And here's why I'm finished with Darby Allen.

Speaker 30 Because unlike most of these guys

Speaker 30 that AEW has jerked off the indies, he's got some talent and some charisma. He has an appeal.
And as we've mentioned before, years ago, before, you know, we found that it wasn't going take place.

Speaker 30 If you produced him and you brought him along, he could be a dynamic underdog babyface that fucking sells and blah, blah, blah. But they've made it so preposterous that nothing can stop him.

Speaker 30 And the littlest guy just comes back from everything.

Speaker 30 And then we've gotten to know that as a person, as a human being, Darby Allen is the biggest fucking moron that has ever stepped foot on this earth and drawn a breath.

Speaker 30 He's a goddamn mental case and he ought to be put away somewhere for his own safety and those of others. He is not producible because he's a complete idiot.

Speaker 30 Even if you tell him, don't do this shit, you make the business look like shit, you make it phony as fuck, and you're going to kill yourself, and we're going to lose our investment in you because you ain't going to be worth a shit, all those many reasons.

Speaker 30 He just wants to do this shit because he doesn't care whether he hurts himself or not, which is the classic textbook definition of a fucking moron.

Speaker 30 So I cannot continue to support a guy that has some talent and some charisma that refuses to use it and refuses to set any kind of example and refuses how to do this the right way or to learn how to do this the right way.

Speaker 30 And now after he's goddamn done this, he's going to come back and finish the match, by the way.

Speaker 30 And then he got sewed up and he's put out on the internet that this shouldn't interfere with him leaving next month to go climb Mount Everest.

Speaker 30 I hope you do go climb Mount Everest, you fucking brainless twat.

Speaker 30 Stay as far away from me as possible so I don't have to keep telling you what a fucking idiot you are and what a golden opportunity that you're wasting that some fucking mark billionaire will pay you guaranteed money to go out there and jack off like a fucking moron.

Speaker 30 like your goddamn Danny Knoxville or whatever the jackass guy's name is. He just wants to get hit in the nuts over and over.
Fuck you and your fucking nuts, Darby.

Speaker 30 It's worse to waste talent and opportunity when you have it than not to ever have it to begin with.

Speaker 30 So do you think, Brian, I've registered my complete disgust with Darby Allen as a human being for wasting goddamn things that he gets that almost nobody else ever gets in their life.

Speaker 28 Yeah, he's really good. I like him.
I think he should just do what he does.

Speaker 30 Yeah, so then Sting came back and he beat up a bunch of them.

Speaker 30 And then he climbed the ladder. But one of the bucks caught him and they powerbombed him through a table, but he didn't sell it.
He just stood up and made a comeback.

Speaker 30 But then they threw him through the glass and gave him the... scorpion death drop and got a two count.

Speaker 30 And then one of the bucks tried to grab the belt from Steamboat, but Steamboat chopped him, so the other one hit him with a chair. And Ricky actually sold something.

Speaker 30 And then Flare rolled into the ring

Speaker 30 and covered Sting up so that the buckaroos couldn't beat him up anymore with the belt. And this took forever.

Speaker 30 And then they finally decided to double super kick Flare and then Steamboat.

Speaker 30 Ah, there's more.

Speaker 30 The Buckaroos hit Sting with the belt and got a two count.

Speaker 30 They did another double super kick to him, but he didn't sell it. He made a comeback on him.

Speaker 30 Then they gave him the double knee lift and he kicked out of that.

Speaker 30 Then they gave him another double knee lift and he kicked out at one.

Speaker 30 Then they gave him a double super kick.

Speaker 30 And then they tried to give him the big double team. It used to be the Meltzer driver, but now they've renamed it the Tony Kahn driver.

Speaker 30 And they were going to go for that, but Darby pushed whichever one.

Speaker 28 It was Jimmy Jacobs, the Tony Kahn driver.

Speaker 30 No, no, no. That's only in automotive terms.
This was actually a wrestling move.

Speaker 30 But

Speaker 30 Darby came back from the dead and pushed whichever buck was on the top rope off through a table.

Speaker 30 And in Sting, hit the death drop on the other one and got a two count. That's Jesus Christ.

Speaker 30 And then Darby, who's still covered in blood and his back is bleeding everywhere in this nitwit, I would have got anywhere near him.

Speaker 30 He goes up the top rope and hits the coffin drop where he drops his bloody mess of a back on one of the buckaroos. So there's hepatitis for the future.

Speaker 30 Hey, Darby was homeless. Don't all homeless people have hepatitis?

Speaker 30 Or is that something else that the homeless people will get mad at us for throwing around?

Speaker 28 Yeah, they'll get mad at you because I'm not saying it. And of course, that's not true.

Speaker 30 Well, of course, it's not, but I bet Darby does.

Speaker 30 And finally, Sting got the scorpion on whichever one of the buckaroos was in the ring at the time. And finally, it was over.

Speaker 30 And Sting and Darby Allen retained the tag team title. And you'll never guess, Brian.
We never could have seen this coming in a million years.

Speaker 30 The tag team title has been declared vacant and will be filled in a tournament on TV in March.

Speaker 30 So,

Speaker 30 Darby Allen enrages me. Darby Allen makes a fire burn within my fucking bowels at the ignorance of him.

Speaker 30 And

Speaker 30 I'm almost moved to travel and leave and go out in public and leave my home and travel somewhere just to tell him what a stupid idiot I think he is.

Speaker 30 But I'd probably end up getting COVID on the way.

Speaker 28 So. He'll beat you with a skateboard.

Speaker 30 Oh, yeah, fuck his skateboard. I would shove his skateboard up his fucking ass.

Speaker 30 I'm sorry, but you know, he's 145 pounds and I know nothing can kill him, but also he

Speaker 30 really can't do anything effective except getting beat up. We didn't really see him do anything except fling himself around and damage himself.

Speaker 30 It's not like he actually has holds and moves that he hurts people with. He just makes them tired out trying to kill him.

Speaker 30 Anyway, I will make

Speaker 30 another comparison. This match, the way Sting went out.
Sting got over as a major star in the wrestling business, working for the second largest promotion in the country.

Speaker 30 Did Sting get over by doing any of this shit? Any of it?

Speaker 28 No, that's the thing.

Speaker 28 Since Sting has come back, and again he's an older guy and i guess had to hide a lot of the what he couldn't do through these matches but these are kind of the matches we saw him work here

Speaker 28 and nowhere before here

Speaker 30 ever

Speaker 30 you never said oh sting guy had that blood bath or sting i mean there were a few wild matches him in that duel him and cactus jack yes yes i'm saying yeah i always have matches with blood but there weren't any blood bass like sting was noted for having blood bass or sting was noted for street fights or Sting was noted for fucking taking high bumps off of fucking ladders through furniture.

Speaker 30 Is there an example of Sting going through a table before he joined AEW?

Speaker 30 Maybe in TNA? Yeah, with the Dudleys around probably.

Speaker 30 But the point is, Flair made Sting a star in the same building 35 years ago in a 45-minute match that was twice as long as this one and seemed like it was a third of as long.

Speaker 30 And they didn't didn't even use a chair, did they?

Speaker 28 No. No.
Eddie Haskell was sitting in the chair.

Speaker 30 Yes. And one of the penthouse pets.
I'm sure somebody was sniffing that chair later on.

Speaker 28 Jason Hervey.

Speaker 30 But yes, you do have to have smoke and mirrors when you've got a 65-year-old legend that you're trying to protect and make look good in a match.

Speaker 30 That's why you have great workers that can take bumps for him and put him in position for things and do everything for him.

Speaker 30 Not when you resort to furniture and glass and fucking chaos of this mad and phoniness of this magnitude.

Speaker 30 Then you've just killed everything, including something could have gone wrong, and he could have fucking broke his neck with all this shit.

Speaker 30 And it's not like either one of the buckaroos are strong enough to move a grown man around and save him if his trajectory is off.

Speaker 30 So

Speaker 30 again, before we get into the post-match,

Speaker 30 they have this match to honor and close the career of a guy who got over by doing everything except anything that happened in this fucking match.

Speaker 30 So then

Speaker 30 he's got the opportunity now to thank everybody, right?

Speaker 30 There's chanting thank you, thank you, and they played the music and let the celebration go long enough for Sting to get some breath. And Darby, once again, is still out there.

Speaker 30 He's sliced to ribbons and taped up everywhere. But Sting starts his speech and he starts with thanking the fans in Greensboro.

Speaker 30 You've always been here since the start, to blah, blah, blah, you know, in this same building and everything.

Speaker 30 And then he's starting to move on to the people that have supported him around the world. And just then,

Speaker 30 Darby leans over and whispers in his ear.

Speaker 30 And Sting actually says on the microphone, Darby's giving me cues.

Speaker 30 And then the copyright notice pops up and they go to black.

Speaker 30 They ran overtime on the pay-per-view. They cut Sting's retirement speech off the pay-per-view.

Speaker 30 We didn't say, did he hug Ric Flair? We don't know. Is Flair still breathing? We don't know.
Where's Steamboat? What happened to him? What did Sting have to say?

Speaker 30 How did he end it with farewell? Did he say it's showtime for the last time? We don't know what he said because it wasn't on the air. You had to be in the building to see it.

Speaker 30 It was like one of Dick the Bruiser's old TV shows that get you hooked and then say, well, folks, should have been here live. We're out of time.

Speaker 28 We don't know what that is. That is the ultimate AEW goodbye, isn't it? They go off the air because they run over during your retirement speech.
We didn't. If it had been the WWE,

Speaker 30 we would have seen the fucking pyro go off and everybody standing and applauding as the triumphant hero went up.

Speaker 30 And then we'd have seen the highlight video of everything that happened in the match and the fucking fade out on his face with the fans chanting,

Speaker 30 you've still got it or whatever. Thank you staying.
Instead, we got copyright 2024 AEW Wrestling and black.

Speaker 28 And this time you can't blame fans for not setting their DVR.

Speaker 30 Shut that tap. That's

Speaker 30 what are you going to do? Buy the pay-per-view after the pay-per-view?

Speaker 30 You hear it? Let me just get a $50 insurance policy. Let me get the goddamn

Speaker 30 best of fucking stand-up from fucking Josephus, just in case the real pay-per-view that I bought runs over.

Speaker 28 Well, that was AEW Revolution. Tony Kahn tweeted this out this morning, Jim.

Speaker 28 Last night at AEW Revolution, Sting completed the greatest comeback in sports history. Sting's three-year run in AEW from ages 61 to 64,

Speaker 28 30 matches, 30-0 record, 29-0 in AEW,

Speaker 28 1-0 in Noah for the Great Muda send-off, retired as AEW World Tag Team Champion in the best last match ever.

Speaker 30 Oh my God.

Speaker 30 Oh boy.

Speaker 28 Well, let's,

Speaker 28 on that note, Jim, let's, before we get out of here, because we've been going a while, a little bit of audio, just a little bit from Tony Khan's Media Scrum. Nothing wacky, but you.

Speaker 30 I thought you said it was from Tony Khan's Media Scrum. How can it not be wacky?

Speaker 28 Well, he couldn't get too crazy. He kept saying he had an 8 a.m.
meeting in... I think West Palm Beach for the NFL.
So this is a rather subdued Tony Khan in Greensboro. Let's go to to some audio here.

Speaker 39 All right, listen while we have some time.

Speaker 19 Let's talk, Sting.

Speaker 39 Let's talk about you as a fan. We know Tony Khan is.

Speaker 28 That's Renee Moxley. Good.
She's now hosting the media scrum the way they have Byron Saxton hosting it in WWE.

Speaker 28 And she's dressed like one of the rockers. She's wearing more ridiculous stuff each and every week.

Speaker 30 I think, you know what? One of her best friends fancies themselves a designer, I bet you.

Speaker 28 She thinks like, this is my chance. This guy will let anyone do anything.
I've always wanted to be a star or at at least dress like one. Now I can do it.
But let's go back to her question.

Speaker 40 A huge wrestling fan. That's why we're here.
That's why we have AEW.

Speaker 20 But for you to be able to be a part of Sting's final match, what did that mean for you?

Speaker 40 We got to see you out in the ring with him, but

Speaker 40 talk to me about some of that.

Speaker 28 Well, it was, I don't know. No, we didn't get to see it.
I wish we would have seen that. How come that was cut off? Did they make everyone sign an NDA? Let's go back to this.

Speaker 35 Most exciting and the best night I've ever had in wrestling, Renee. I grew up as a huge Sting fan and to be here tonight in the Greensboro Coliseum.

Speaker 35 I felt like it was the right place at the right time.

Speaker 35 When I talked to Sting about when he wanted to go out and how he wanted to go out, it felt like this was the right time, the right place. And I feel like we have just done everything perfectly.

Speaker 35 It was a perfect night. And

Speaker 35 top to bottom, I thought it was AEW's best show. The build and the way we got to the pay-per-view, I thought it was the best show we've ever done.
And top to bottom, it was a perfect night.

Speaker 35 And you couldn't have asked for anything better, which is perfect because we were.

Speaker 28 perfect. He's used perfect four times.

Speaker 30 We didn't even see the goddamn speech. How can that be perfect?

Speaker 30 We did everything perfect except show the pay-per-view buyers what they paid to see.

Speaker 28 What

Speaker 35 wanted to give Sting a perfect send-off, and I think we did that. He's such a great person, and he's had this amazing career.

Speaker 35 And to think back years ago, maybe five, six, seven years ago, who would have ever thought this was going to be possible where we got tonight? I mean, you know, I certainly

Speaker 35 in 2020 when Sting first reached out to me, I was really hoping to give him a great run.

Speaker 37 I didn't know it would be quite this long, and it's been amazing.

Speaker 35 It's been everything we wanted to do, top to bottom. It's

Speaker 37 exactly what I think we were

Speaker 37 exactly what we were looking for.

Speaker 35 And honestly, you know,

Speaker 35 it wasn't like Sting's.

Speaker 28 Oh, you got something to say?

Speaker 30 This is two times in a row

Speaker 30 that we have heard Tony speaking that he has gone from the Federal Express guy

Speaker 30 down to grasping for words and repeating himself. Have they changed some type of the medication?

Speaker 28 Well, again, we don't know what medication he would or wouldn't be on, especially on this day where he has a big meeting the next morning. But let's go back to this.

Speaker 37 A political person, Sting's not a political

Speaker 35 animal or anything like that. He's definitely

Speaker 35 a very giving person, and he wants to give and give and give in pro wrestling. So it wasn't like when he came in, he had ever pushed to have an undefeated run.
It wasn't like he ever

Speaker 35 tried to take the spotlight or wanted it. And it was really something I felt very strongly about.

Speaker 30 No, you were just stupid enough to give it to him.

Speaker 35 Of Stang coming back and having this run and giving him the

Speaker 35 undisputed spotlight and

Speaker 35 really give him the best run ever in AEW. Sting went out undefeated.

Speaker 35 When you look back, every match he ever had, Sting and Darby won, and it really built to a great moment in Phoenix when Sting and Darby won the championship. And that could have been it.

Speaker 35 But then, of course, it led to the setup for what I thought was the best send-off ever in pro wrestling, what we did tonight for Sting.

Speaker 28 Let me stop it there. That's twice twice next.
You get it in the tweet, too.

Speaker 28 Yeah, go ahead. Go ahead.

Speaker 28 Well,

Speaker 30 I mean, there have been a few that were somewhat well thought of, and then, of course, guys went back on them. But if you count,

Speaker 30 has there ever been a send-off where a great send-off where one of the guys didn't go back on it, but there have still been greater send-offs for fuck's sake.

Speaker 28 Terry Funk in Japan in 83 may be the best.

Speaker 30 Flair had a great one until he realized he couldn't stay away and went back to tna

Speaker 28 yeah

Speaker 30 well tony thinks this is the best one ever this was this was this would be the send-off for some bank addicted drug robber like that gauge clown on the garbage circuit this would be a send-off for him hey let's throw everybody off the ladder and break all the glass you're not accepting how perfect this night was let's go back to tony Sting put himself in that position to think the toll he put himself through.

Speaker 35 30 matches, 29 in AEW plus one in Japan, 30 matches in three years.

Speaker 35 The greatest comeback ever, I think, in sports. And for Sting to go out there.

Speaker 28 I mean, Michael Jordan returned to the NBA after leaving it to try to play baseball. I think that comeback,

Speaker 28 He wasn't 60. He wasn't 61.
I guess that changes it.

Speaker 30 That changes things.

Speaker 35 I believe at 64 years old, and we can say it now.

Speaker 35 You know, he said

Speaker 35 time caught up to him, but I don't think it did. I think if it was getting close, I think Sting outran time and finished on top.
And tonight was timeless and perfect in every way.

Speaker 35 So thank you very much for asking.

Speaker 40 Yeah, thank you for giving it.

Speaker 28 Let me stop there. I'll get some audio from Sting so you could hear what he had to say.

Speaker 30 Well, and let me just make one more comment about this whole thing and something that we kind of touched on a little bit earlier. When you say, well, he's 65, there's got to be smoke and mirrors.

Speaker 30 He can't go in there and have the 45-minute match with Flair.

Speaker 30 So this is the way they smoke and mirror it up, which kind of proves the point that I've been making for years and years since I've been talking about this stuff since they've been doing it.

Speaker 30 Garbage wrestling takes no talent.

Speaker 30 If you are willing to take the increased risk of getting hurt, You can have these garbage matches whether you can work or do anything or not. Because they're admitting it by saying, okay,

Speaker 30 the easiest thing for a 65 year old man to do will be able to do to cover up for the fact that he can't do what he used to do is have a garbage match and fall through furniture so they admit it whenever they have someone that cannot perform up to a professional standard They put them in a garbage match because that's the great equalizer.

Speaker 30 You do not have to have talent at professional wrestling to have a garbage wrestling match. It's easy.
Just be willing to get hurt.

Speaker 30 Prove my point.

Speaker 28 Well, here is Sting and Darby Allen joining the media scrum with Tony Kahn in the middle.

Speaker 37 I'll worry about that in a minute. We'll worry about that later.

Speaker 37 But

Speaker 35 I wasn't sure. I wasn't sure if you'd come in.
You didn't have to. This is above and beyond.
Ladies and gentlemen, let's hear it for Sting.

Speaker 42 thank you

Speaker 35 sting and darby we were just singing your praises unbelievable thank you

Speaker 36 first question

Speaker 43 um lyric swinton snme radio thank you sting for an incredible career um question for both you and tony so a lot of people have always talked about aew's usage of legends and veterans and there's so many people above the age of 50 who are honestly doing some of the best work of their careers in AEW.

Speaker 43 So for Tony, what do you hope to leave as a legacy for how wrestlers are treated, you know, in the final stages of their career?

Speaker 43 And for Sting, what made AEW so special for you to want to do your retirement run here?

Speaker 28 Let me stop it there. How many wrestlers...
Go ahead.

Speaker 30 What was it?

Speaker 30 What the fuck is she an idiot? What made it special? It's the only other place besides the WWE where somebody was willing to pay him a million dollars.

Speaker 30 That's not hard to answer.

Speaker 35 Well, first of all, I take it on a case-by-case basis, but tonight, first and foremost, this is the greatest case of all. This is the greatest of all careers, the career that spans the most history.

Speaker 35 And there's a generation of wrestlers. There's a generation of wrestling when wrestling was the biggest thing in the world that a lot of us grew up on.

Speaker 35 And there's one person going into tonight that was still wrestling. And for the past three years, he's carried this place.

Speaker 35 We're very fortunate that the life Sting is pumped into this place, that we were the final stop on what is the greatest career of all time.

Speaker 35 So, first and foremost, on a case-by-case basis, I just think of everything it's in front of us. And tonight, the most important thing we've ever done was to give Sting the greatest send-off we could.

Speaker 28 It's nice to be a fan. It's nice to give him this night the greatest career of all time.

Speaker 30 The greatest career of all time.

Speaker 30 Move over, Bruno, Andre, Stone Cold, Rock, Hogan, Longson, Landos, Strangler Lewis. It's Sting.

Speaker 30 Come on. You could even get by with saying one of the greatest of all time.
That's

Speaker 30 subject to interpretation, and you're not giving a set quantity.

Speaker 30 But when

Speaker 30 this is, come on. I mean, I can't see Sting, but I would imagine he was even looking a little embarrassed, wasn't he?

Speaker 28 He looks a little dazed. I I mean, he just had a lot of match.

Speaker 28 Let's go to Spin.

Speaker 42 And that's one of the reasons why I wanted to come here. I mean, the very first conversation I had with Tony really, really

Speaker 42 said a lot because he just had something about him that just told me, I am going to make sure that you retire the right way, that you're going to go out the right way.

Speaker 42 I don't like the way you've been treated over here or over there. You will not be treated like that here.

Speaker 42 And I saw an opportunity, liked Tony, and I liked all the wrestlers male female the whole package a lot of the same behind-the-scenes people from WCW way back when and there's the brand just really seemed to fit me I was their brand and they were mine it's like you know with WCW all those years and then to be with TNA

Speaker 42 it kind of felt that way, but not really. It never really fully got there for me.
And then WWE, it was never quite fully there for me.

Speaker 28 Can I stop you for a second?

Speaker 30 Or can I stop Sting for a second? Just, I was in TNA between 2006, 2009, right?

Speaker 30 And I remember the last two years that I was there, both years, about whenever time Sting's contract would come up,

Speaker 30 I would hear from Dutchman teller somebody, well, Sting, Sting wants to finish up. He wants to quit, but Dixie keeps giving him a raise.

Speaker 30 She was paying him, and this is what, 15 years ago, a half million dollars a year to come to fucking TV and do the pay-per-view and not even wrestle on all those tapings.

Speaker 30 So that was five days a month and not even that many matches.

Speaker 30 And here we are,

Speaker 30 15 years later, this fucking guy has given him exponentially more money than that for exponentially fewer matches. No wonder he hadn't quit till now.

Speaker 28 Let's go back to the man called Stone.

Speaker 28 Hear the whole package.

Speaker 42 I had just a great appreciation for the whole package and what a good fit.

Speaker 28 And I was right.

Speaker 38 Hi, Joel Torres from Contradona.

Speaker 28 Congratulations.

Speaker 38 What a great retirement tonight.

Speaker 38 This question I asked Tony last Thursday on the media call. I want to ask you this question.
Now that you've retired in ring action,

Speaker 38 what are your plans? Obviously, going home, taking your break with your family, but are you wanting to be involved in AEW at some other capacity?

Speaker 42 Well, Tony has mentioned me staying on board in some form or fashion. We haven't really worked anything out there yet, but I'm sure we'll have some kind of conversation.
And

Speaker 42 I am saying, you know, maybe we'll see what happens. I have no interest in, you know, being a manager or anything like that or an agent.
I don't want to do any of that kind of stuff. So I

Speaker 28 so what so what is he going to do for all the money that Tony's going to throw at him? What would there be left?

Speaker 28 And that's the thing.

Speaker 30 Sting has never had any interest whatsoever in booking, agenting, matchmaking.

Speaker 30 Far as I know, announcing nothing else and nothing other.

Speaker 30 And I mean, we work closely together in TNA.

Speaker 30 He didn't even,

Speaker 30 he wouldn't even question the booking when it was shit stained. He was the only one of the top guys that would just, oh, well, whatever Vince wants.
He wouldn't question anything.

Speaker 30 He has no interest in any of that shit.

Speaker 28 See, that's why he was the guy that fit in so well here because he wasn't someone who got.

Speaker 30 Yeah, exactly. He didn't care.
Do what the fuck you want. I don't take this shit seriously.
I mean, that's just the way he is. But

Speaker 30 what if you,

Speaker 30 he has no interest in and doesn't want to be,

Speaker 30 and probably wouldn't be good at being agent, producer, a trainer? How the fuck?

Speaker 30 Can you imagine Sting as a trainer? He barely learned. I mean, let's face it, Sting's been a huge star, but his in-ring has never been praised as being revolutionary.

Speaker 30 He learned the things he could do to get by. It's not like his work is fucking so.
What is Tony thinking? I'm just, I want to pay him to hang around with me. I can't bear not to see Sting once a week.

Speaker 30 What the fuck is he going to do?

Speaker 30 What does he need him him to do?

Speaker 28 Well, let's see what he says here.

Speaker 30 He doesn't need to do anything. Sting's, he's got millions of dollars that people like Tony have given him to do very little.

Speaker 37 I'm not sure what I could offer, but you're one of the greatest legends, not only certainly the greatest legend ever in AEW, and I think one of the greatest wrestlers, if not the greatest wrestler of all time.

Speaker 37 Nobody's ever had. What?

Speaker 28 Wait, what? What the fuck?

Speaker 28 He's now the greatest wrestler of all time?

Speaker 28 What is going on here? It takes such a jump. You know, you're one of the greatest of all time.
You are the greatest of all time.

Speaker 27 All right, let's go back to Tony and Steven.

Speaker 35 Has spanned more than yours and what you've done for us here. We're all in your debt.
So please, not only is the door always welcome and open for you, but I hope you will be back.

Speaker 35 And like I've said, we'll figure it out.

Speaker 28 We want you to The Forbidden Door 3. The door is always welcome.
The door is always welcome.

Speaker 42 Well, yep, I'm willing to have a talk.

Speaker 30 God damn, he's like, please, can these motherfuckers leave me alone so I can go home and retire? I got too much fucking money. I'm not going to live long enough to spend it.

Speaker 30 Why do they keep wanting me?

Speaker 28 This is literally the retirement match media scrub, and Tony's trying to talk him into staying.

Speaker 30 Yep, 15 years ago,

Speaker 30 he's like, what else can i do i don't need i'll i'll i'll finish up no here's more money well what

Speaker 30 why would you turn down that much money for doing that little

Speaker 28 just a little bit more from sting because this is probably the last time we will be hearing from him unless he uh resigns to become a commentator i guess he didn't rule that out boy howdy Corey Lieb with A Wrestling Observer.

Speaker 36 I wanted to kind of talk a little bit about the early part of your career.

Speaker 28 There was almost like a little bit of a crossroads with your career.

Speaker 36 You started obviously with Jim Helwig, the Ultimate Warrior,

Speaker 36 and you kind of separated a little bit. He went his way.

Speaker 28 Kind of separated a little bit.

Speaker 28 You kind of separated a little bit.

Speaker 30 Went in opposite directions, never to again work in the same place, except for like three months when WCW hired everybody.

Speaker 28 I want to talk about these crossroads you got to where you went a completely different direction.

Speaker 36 Eddie Gilbert, Rick Steiner, you know, First Family. And I just want to just talk about that part of your career and kind of at least kind of reflect a little bit on,

Speaker 36 now with hindsight,

Speaker 30 was

Speaker 36 obviously, you know, was the right thing to split up and do different stuff.

Speaker 28 And

Speaker 36 basically just kind of just reflect on

Speaker 36 that portion of your career.

Speaker 28 Just reflect. What a question.

Speaker 28 What? What question?

Speaker 30 just reflect

Speaker 42 can we have some reflection here he's like a little more reflecting i need to get this guy to talk about the ultimate warrior and i have no question in mind that i can't come up with one let me just throw words together and ask him to reflect here's sting reflecting well i think it was definitely good that we were both together to begin with uh because you know he just he looked like a freak you know i was 265 pounds and i looked like a little kid compared to him.

Speaker 42 But both of us together were pretty intimidating.

Speaker 42 And, you know, we had a lot of people saying, you know, Maybelline Road Warriors. I don't know if you remember any of that.
But yeah. But we thought, who cares?

Speaker 42 You know, let's we get a match with the Road Warriors. We hit the big time.
And so,

Speaker 42 but, you know, I think it was good that we ended up splitting up. It was good that he went his way and I went mine.
We were not meant to be together.

Speaker 42 We were meant to start together and it got us in the in the door for sure. But he he needed to be on his own and i needed to be we were going to kill each other literally on the road

Speaker 42 two roided out young young men

Speaker 28 denise el cedo instinct culture well that that's what it was then

Speaker 28 wait a second

Speaker 30 and by the way i appreciate him admitting that but

Speaker 30 That was they were two completely different personalities and people. You can't deny that.
I've never said staying was a bad human being or a bad person. And

Speaker 30 definitely Warrior was.

Speaker 30 But can you imagine? He just gave me a visual. And I realize it never happened, did it? Was the Ultimate Warrior ever in the ring opposite Hawk and Animal ever in history?

Speaker 28 Opposite them? No, he teamed with them. I don't know about opposite them.
I don't think so.

Speaker 30 He teamed with them once in the WWF, right?

Speaker 28 Survivor Series 90, they were on a team. I think they had a few other six-man matches against Demolition as well.

Speaker 30 I would pay any amount of money to see the Ultimate Warrior in the ring against Hawkin Animal, because if Warrior had tried to pull that bullshit with them, they would have beaten him to death.

Speaker 30 Working with him. They would have just worked with him like they worked with the fucking job guys in Georgia in 1983, and the Warrior would have been squealing like a pig stuck under a gate.

Speaker 30 Because you did. I don't care what else you did.
You did not no-sell hawking animal shit. And I would have loved to have seen him try to pull that fucking puffy-faced bullshit on them.

Speaker 30 But anyway, I digress.

Speaker 30 I just like to still to this day to see somebody kick the shit out of the Ultimate Warrior for principal. But go ahead.

Speaker 28 Well, here's Sting finishing his steroid talk.

Speaker 30 Guys, I mean,

Speaker 42 just shooting straight here.

Speaker 42 That stopped in 1990 for me. So, yeah,

Speaker 42 it didn't stop for him, but it stopped for me. me.

Speaker 28 Jesus Christ. All right.
Well, there's what we're going to hear today from the media scrum. Tony,

Speaker 28 as crazy looking as ever. Buy a comb.
God damn it. Just get a comb or a brush.

Speaker 28 Or a floeby at this point. A floeby may work.

Speaker 30 He's been going to Kyle O'Reilly's fucking barber, apparently.

Speaker 28 You know, it's like that thing when guys would come up and they say, how do I get over with Vince? And Heyman would be like, you know, change your name to Kennedy. He'll love you.

Speaker 28 If you're coming back to AEW, how do I get over with Tony? Get the Tony hairdo.

Speaker 28 Just show up looking all frumpy and you get a push.

Speaker 30 Look like you've been on some kind of fucking binge for seven days.

Speaker 28 Yes. Show up looking like you have NFL meetings in the morning.

Speaker 28 That's the look to show up with. But Jim, that was it.

Speaker 30 Is that some kind of code? They're calling it NFL now just to avoid people knowing what they're talking about. That's the kids' code these days.
I got an NFL meeting in the morning.

Speaker 28 Well, maybe so. And we hope that meeting went well for Tony and the Jacksonville Jaguars.
But there it is, the retirement of Sting AEW Revolution.

Speaker 30 I'm sorry. I don't know what to say.

Speaker 30 You know, again,

Speaker 30 I stand by everything I said on Darby Allen. Some of it might actually make the air

Speaker 30 because he's an idiot. And by the way, I didn't mention he would have missed the guy he was aiming at to begin with.
He completely overshot him.

Speaker 30 But

Speaker 30 this whole company, Tony being a mark in the worst meaning of the word, has led them to realize that they can do whatever they want.

Speaker 30 And the old-timers are going to get these guaranteed contracts that are going to have them being paid until they're in their 60s or beyond. Jericho already has.

Speaker 30 And the young guys are going to be allowed to let loose and do all this stupid bullshit because they think they're in a video game.

Speaker 30 And they don't care if they get hurt because they'll get paid either way.

Speaker 30 There's still that

Speaker 30 nagging aspect of the severe pain, but they don't care about that because they want to be on jackass.

Speaker 30 So that's why that not only will this company never go any further than what it has, but why that it is slowly contributing to the erosion of the wrestling audience as a whole, because I said at the top of the review,

Speaker 30 subliminally, slowly, like erosion over a period of years, you see nobody's doing this shit, and it registers less and less when the somebodies do it. And that's why,

Speaker 30 as I mentioned before, and I will bring it up again, the WWE is

Speaker 30 winning this battle,

Speaker 30 running away with it, and fucking doing better than they have in years in terms of crowds and more money than they ever have because of the finances these days.

Speaker 30 And it's half or a third of the audience they had 20 years ago. And they don't do all this mostly.

Speaker 30 But it doesn't matter what company people see wrestling as wrestling. It's either good wrestling or bad wrestling.
Maybe low-budget wrestling.

Speaker 30 But it's the same when everybody falls off a fucking ladder and hits the ground. If they get up, it's fake.
If they don't, well, that might have been real. But they always get up.

Speaker 30 They won't let us believe anything. That's why the business is slowly eroding.

Speaker 30 And the WWE, in 10 years, owned by TKO,

Speaker 30 if they do find another trust fund baby to finance another promotion, AEW will be gone by then.

Speaker 30 Then it'll be the same way.

Speaker 30 They will be fighting for a smaller

Speaker 30 audience than they have now because people will have had 10 more years to see this shit and it'll register even less.

Speaker 30 So

Speaker 30 that's what they're doing for us. Thank you very much, guys.

Speaker 30 You've managed to take a business that had an audience of 10 or 12 million people and make it into a business that has an audience of 2 or 3 million people.

Speaker 30 I would like to give you a round of applause.

Speaker 30 And that

Speaker 30 applause sounds like an FFA meeting at the Holiday Inn, and that's about how big the crowds are going to be in 10 years if we keep seeing wrestling shows like this one.

Speaker 30 So fuck your fucking match of the year and fuck your goddamn greatest pay-per-view of all time. It sucked.

Speaker 28 Well, that was AEW Revolution. The fun continues.
Their next pay-per-view, I guess there was something to the Joan Collins tweet last month. AEW Dynasty coming in April from St.
Louis.

Speaker 30 Yeah, now they've now they just did March. They've added April.
They'll be back again in June unless they add May.

Speaker 30 Boy,

Speaker 30 they've got a set amount of fans and they want to bankrupt every single one of them, don't they?

Speaker 28 Oh, I have it here. Young Bucks tribute show in May called May Flowers.

Speaker 28 AEW presents May Flowers coming in May.

Speaker 30 May Flowers, that was the daughter of Wayland Flowers, who used to have a thing going with Madam. But that's a story for another time.
Are we done here?

Speaker 28 We are certainly done.

Speaker 30 Thank you. Fuck you.
Bye-bye, everybody.