Episode 600: September To Remember

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Speaker 35 I'm another year older, and we're all deeper in shit. Kimmy Kimball suspended, Roger Jackson's in jail, and Tony Khan's in a revolving routine of repetitive rottenness.

Speaker 35 All that and more today. And to join me, Hawaiian Brian, the podcasting lion, the king of the Arcadian Vanguard Podcast Network, Mr.
Co-host to you, St. Peter.

Speaker 35 Don't you call him because he's got a podcast to do.

Speaker 35 Be great. Brian, last, everybody.

Speaker 33 Aloha, Jim. A pleasure to be here once again.
Other than the three hours of AEW I watched. It's a pleasure to be here.
Other than that entire block of time. Yeah.

Speaker 35 Yes, other than all of those

Speaker 35 things.

Speaker 35 Do I sound older to you?

Speaker 33 Maddie, you say that. Yeah.

Speaker 35 Well, goddamn it. See, right here at the top of the program, you're supposed to, even if you're not a friend of mine, as a good podcast co-host, the Ed McMahon to the Johnny Carson,

Speaker 35 you're at least supposed to lie and say, No, Jim, you sound like a young pip.

Speaker 33 You sound young, pip. You, Mickey, you've never sounded younger.

Speaker 35 I sound like Burgess Mara, this version of Mickey, instead of Tony Passex.

Speaker 33 That's right.

Speaker 33 Get up, you son of a bitch, because Mickey loves you.

Speaker 35 Yeah, I've got

Speaker 35 my various ailments going on today. Nothing serious, folks, but

Speaker 35 I had the birthday

Speaker 35 64 years old now, Brian. Can you believe just one more year from being a round number,

Speaker 35 which is actually not a round number? 65 is an odd number, but that's like the

Speaker 35 number where then it's all downhill, right?

Speaker 35 Or is it uphill? Did we ever solve that problem?

Speaker 33 I think it's uphill. And I also think you've been going uphill since you got off the road and got out of the wrestling business.
So I think you're going to probably be like 110 one day.

Speaker 35 I don't know if I can take it. I don't know if I can take it.
We were going to have

Speaker 35 a

Speaker 35 dinner here at home, but since Stacey's mom is She had another procedure on Sunday and she's going to be in the hospital a little while longer. So,

Speaker 35 Stacey's sister Brenda came out from California to visit her mother because she hadn't seen her since she moved.

Speaker 35 And with her in the hospital, I didn't want to have a big wing ding here. So, we just bopped over to Mark's feed store,

Speaker 35 which is right down the road. And I stuffed my face with the

Speaker 35 wonderful lemon pepper fish dinner, which is fried to perfection.

Speaker 35 And also,

Speaker 35 I didn't have burgoo this time,

Speaker 35 I switched up and had the fried pickles. I just went crazy.

Speaker 35 And then

Speaker 35 the picture of my nothing bunt cake that Stace took got a lot of attention on Twitter. And thank everybody for

Speaker 35 that said happy birthday and everything. But do you know, do you know what a 64-year-old retired wrestling manager and podcasting genius put on his wish list for his birthday this year that

Speaker 35 I've either got or am getting. One has been delivered.
Others are

Speaker 35 in the pipeline, so to speak. Guess what, Brian?

Speaker 33 Power Town action figures.

Speaker 35 Oh, come on now. I'm not going to live long enough.

Speaker 33 What have you ordered that's in the pipeline? You already have pieces of it?

Speaker 35 Well, not that I've, no, not that I have ordered. No, you're not listening to the words.
They're coming out of my mouth.

Speaker 33 There were a lot of words.

Speaker 35 Well, that's because I got a lot of mouth. I said, do you, would you care to know what's on my list of things that I asked for for my birthday?

Speaker 35 Some that have been delivered and some that are still in the process of being brought to me.

Speaker 33 I am. And also, what did you say before? You said it was a nothing bunt cake?

Speaker 35 A nothing bunt cake.

Speaker 35 That's the cake place over here.

Speaker 35 The cake place where the cake ladies sell you the cakes.

Speaker 35 Nothing bunt cake. They're all bunt cakes

Speaker 35 of various sizes. That's all I got.
Hence, nothing but cakes.

Speaker 35 And they have wonderful flavors and tremendous icings and a cream cheese icing and a raspberry filling and

Speaker 35 just various things that they have there.

Speaker 33 And the other good thing is what it rhymes with. So if they ever piss you off, you can say, hey, give me my cake, you bunt.

Speaker 35 Why don't you workshop that one a little while?

Speaker 33 You bunt.

Speaker 33 Do you have to put it? I guess you have to kind of make a little bit of the sound for it to work, but you did.

Speaker 35 You just work on that whole thing later on, off the air.

Speaker 35 I wouldn't yell at these ladies. They give me my nothing bunt cakes.

Speaker 35 But anyway, nevertheless, back to what were you saying? I had asked you something, and you just completely changed the subject.

Speaker 33 I did. I'm really good at that.
You had a wish list for your birthday.

Speaker 35 Well, I'm not wishing.

Speaker 33 What it was, the Sibian.

Speaker 35 No, for heaven's sake, those things last forever. The one we got 20 years ago will be fine.

Speaker 35 No, it's not a wish list, it's my birthday list, and these are the things that I wanted. And I got already my five pounds of Provel cheese from Emo's Pizza in St.
Louis.

Speaker 35 That has already been delivered, has safely been stored in a brand new freezer.

Speaker 35 And also, I'm getting a new George Foreman grill

Speaker 35 and a new shark vacuum cleaner, the top of the line model they got there that just sucks the dagum sand out of cement.

Speaker 35 That's what it's come to is when you're 64, Brian. These are the things that you want for your birthday.
Cake,

Speaker 35 tools, and cheese.

Speaker 33 And sleep. You made a joke before about the lifespan of the Sibian.
What's the lifespan of a George Foreman Grill?

Speaker 35 Not too goddamn long, the way I put pressure on it. No, here is the problem:

Speaker 35 the problem becomes that the thing will work from now until the cows come home, but the non-stick coating

Speaker 35 starts with washing, starts coming off of the plates, and then it's just a bigger pain in the ass to clean it than it is to buy a new one.

Speaker 35 The non-stick coating is the key to the whole thing.

Speaker 35 All right. So

Speaker 35 how long have you had your Foreman grill? I don't have one.

Speaker 33 I've never had one.

Speaker 35 Oh, come on. That's why I don't know.

Speaker 33 That's why I have no idea.

Speaker 35 What in the world? You have had some type of.

Speaker 33 I didn't need a George Foreman grill. I had a grill grill.

Speaker 35 You need a food counselor. You need someone to do a deep psychological food examination of you.
Who?

Speaker 35 And

Speaker 35 some food psychologist you know

Speaker 35 with that with all the big food psychology firms and they need to do a study of you and find out how you develop these entirely warped outlooks and or methodologies toward all of your eating habits all your life

Speaker 33 i think that the people who follow me are a bigger constituency than you recognize and one day

Speaker 33 one day

Speaker 33 one day when all the sausage is gone from your pizza.

Speaker 33 Remember this day, my friend, because this is right now getting put in my head and I'll remember it.

Speaker 35 Sausage censorship.

Speaker 35 We'll get into that. But I did want to say thank you to a couple of people who sent me shit for my birthday.
And Brian from Reno sent me a gift card to Mark's feed store.

Speaker 35 that I got literally the day before I went to Mark's Feed Store and a roll of toilet paper with Kevin Dunn's face on each sheet.

Speaker 33 Where do you get that? What store sells that?

Speaker 35 I think he had it specially formulated over there at the Charmin factory. I don't know.

Speaker 33 Have you ever worked in Reno?

Speaker 35 Uh,

Speaker 35 no, as a matter of fact, I have not. I have worked in Las Vegas and Laughlin when it comes to Nevada

Speaker 35 places.

Speaker 35 Hmm.

Speaker 35 Continuing, Continuing,

Speaker 35 Mark Cole, thank you for sending the comic books for me and Stace, a Marvel horror comic for me, and a Batman with a Harley Quinn

Speaker 35 story for

Speaker 35 Stacey. And this guy named Brian Last

Speaker 35 sent me a copy of the,

Speaker 35 is that the only one they made? They just, it took them so long to make this one. It's like a thousand pages hardcover on the work of Erwin Allen through the movies and TV shows.

Speaker 35 It's the most fascinating thing. It's a giant book.
It weighs 60 pounds. The mailman was hunchbacked.
They may not have had time to print that on a

Speaker 35 mass basis. It may be the only one.
Thank you, Brian.

Speaker 33 You're welcome next year. I'm going to get you The Poetry of Quinn Martin.

Speaker 35 That'll be a little shorter, won't it? A little lighter. And also, the one fellow who doesn't want to be thanked.
Thank you. You know who you are.

Speaker 33 Is it

Speaker 33 Porno Steve?

Speaker 35 Oh, for why, why does your mind always go in the gutter?

Speaker 33 Because, you know, I'm talking to you.

Speaker 35 I'm old now.

Speaker 35 Can I retire from perversity?

Speaker 35 I'm over here asking for vacuum cleaners for my fucking birthday.

Speaker 33 Doesn't mean porno Steve is retired.

Speaker 35 You're like a fucking 80s teen movie horny fucking character over in the corner going, what the fuck? I don't know.

Speaker 33 I'm hoping the teen movies make a comeback. 80s teen movies, not 90s teen movies.

Speaker 35 I think all the same ones should just remake their own movies and look like they are now. Well, they're all dead, aren't they?

Speaker 33 How did Revenge of the Nerds affect you as a ringside manager? Were fans yelling things from that movie at you at all just because you had the glasses?

Speaker 35 I don't know because I never saw the movie. I was at Ringside being a manager.
So they were just insulting me in general.

Speaker 35 Was there that much profanity

Speaker 35 in the Revenge of the Nerds movie that people, the things people used to yell at me were in the movie? My God.

Speaker 33 Just hey, nerd. Like, did you get that?

Speaker 35 No, I got a lot more like, hey, motherfucker, look at my knife.

Speaker 35 Instead of, hey, nerd.

Speaker 33 Hey, nerd would have been a fucking

Speaker 35 night off. You know, I haven't.

Speaker 35 I'll kill you, you son of a bitch and your whole family.

Speaker 35 Or you goof.

Speaker 33 Hey, Poindexter.

Speaker 35 Yeah, yeah, Poindex.

Speaker 33 Where's your calculator?

Speaker 35 Yeah, I'd have rather heard that from the guy that vomited on me in Little Rock, Arkansas that night.

Speaker 33 Jim Ross?

Speaker 35 No, one of the actual ticket purchasing patrons. Oh, what do you mean?

Speaker 33 Vomiting on the show.

Speaker 35 I was actually in the arena rather than after the show.

Speaker 33 I've heard about all your fights and all the riots you started.

Speaker 35 I've told you that.

Speaker 33 The vomiting on you? I don't remember that one.

Speaker 35 I got back to the, we were in Little Rock at the Varton Coliseum, sweet, sweet Connie,

Speaker 35 and had wrestled whoever and were on the way back from the ring. And Little Rock was also where the cop gave me the bulletproof vest earlier that year when they got new vests onto Forrest.

Speaker 35 He said, here, this is Moldwin. You need it.

Speaker 35 And that's where they had called in the

Speaker 35 the death threat to ted di bease i want to shoot that son of a bitch so all the cops were there that night and they hoisted me up in the cage and i'm looking around the best target in the house for the guy with the gun

Speaker 35 so the big 400 pound cop that would bear hug me and back me out of the building so he could look over my shoulder while all the other cops are around bobby and dennis are taking us down the aisle as normal and people are throwing things and yelling and fucking trying to swat at you and whatever the fuck.

Speaker 35 I get back into the backstage area, not even into the locker room, and I look down and my pants

Speaker 35 from the mid-thigh all the way down to the cuff of the pants of my suit

Speaker 35 had puke.

Speaker 35 Vomit.

Speaker 35 What is the other? What's the more polite terms for upchuck?

Speaker 35 Somebody had gone to Europe all down my goddamn leg.

Speaker 33 I think that's it. I think that's the range of them.

Speaker 35 And I'm, what the fuck? And I'm trying to tiptoe and I'm trying to take the pant. I'm taking the pants off before we've got in the locker room.
I'm out in the goddamn breezeway back there.

Speaker 35 And

Speaker 35 I never

Speaker 35 with

Speaker 35 number one, the aim because all of we're moving and we've got cops around us and there's all kinds of people,

Speaker 35 you know, flummoxing around, but also I never knew

Speaker 35 were they able to do that spontaneously or did they do it before at home and save it and bring it with them?

Speaker 33 You think that's a possibility? I know people would do crazy stuff to heels. You think someone would do that?

Speaker 35 Well, it wouldn't. I don't know if that would be the first time for that, but those people used to get creative.

Speaker 35 Remember in Lake Charles, Louisiana, they did this to Skandor Akbar before I got in territory because I was hearing the stories. That's why I always kept my head down.

Speaker 35 The cops in Lake Charles would circle you. We had like 10 or 12, the heel side,

Speaker 35 and they'd make a circle and they would walk down the aisle with the heel in the middle. So there's no way the people could even reach inside.
They'd hold arms.

Speaker 35 So the fans got the idea to put Drano in water guns and try to squirt the heels in the eyes when they were going by.

Speaker 33 That's amazing.

Speaker 35 They were creative as fuck.

Speaker 35 And you always had to watch out when you had to walk out

Speaker 35 into an arena from an overhang where the people were allowed to sit right above you because

Speaker 35 more than one, many more than one guy in the business has been beaned by them dropping one of those old-fashioned metal floor ashtrays or just any kind of heavy object. Yeah.

Speaker 35 See, and they were, they were up there.

Speaker 35 They're up there in the general admission section where they can just take off before any cop on the floor can get up there. They've got ways they can get away, right?

Speaker 35 But no, any kind of heavy object that could be dropped off of a fucking deal, that's why sometimes you would see in the old territory days, they would block off the several rows of seats right above of where you had to walk out.

Speaker 35 And in Houston,

Speaker 35 at Sam Houston Coliseum, that's how people were able to chuck the bottles at us because we,

Speaker 35 after you got out of the floor seating, you had about 50 or 60 feet of open floor area.

Speaker 35 And then you went under bleachers that hundreds and hundreds of people were in, the upper part of the arena.

Speaker 35 So they would wait because they were polite enough not to want to hit some old lady at ringside. But when you got in that clear floor section,

Speaker 35 then you were open for people to fling the bottles from above.

Speaker 35 and so you had to keep your hands over your head. They put up a net in Boston.
In Boston, right? Yeah,

Speaker 35 because the people at the Boston Guard in the 70s were doing the same thing. So they strung a net over the goddamn ring.

Speaker 33 There's a famous story about my friend Roy Lusher. Hello, Roy, if you're here listening.
La Ravancha 93, that big AAA IWC show that Ron Scholler did in LA where it was bigger than they expected.

Speaker 33 It shut down traffic. Like it became a a big deal.
In a lot of ways, it put AAA on the map in America. Roy got to the show, and before the show even started, he took out his sign.

Speaker 33 He was kind of famous for having the sign 100% Rudos.

Speaker 33 He was cheering for the heels. Well, those people did not like that.
So they all started throwing things at him. And now he was, the story goes, walking around the building with this sign.

Speaker 33 and they're throwing things at him, including dirty diapers. And it's the same question you just asked.
Did they bring in the diapers with them, or do they have a baby there?

Speaker 33 Like, quick, change this diaper, give me that diaper, I need to throw it at this guy, who, by the way, Roy got kicked out of the building before the show started.

Speaker 33 He got kicked out like as the opening match was getting run.

Speaker 33 But that's like the famous story. You know, people were just going crazy.
He was supposed to sit next to Bob Barnett. Bob's like, get out of here, don't come near us.

Speaker 35 Yeah, yeah, stay away from me. Snipers, but dirty diapers, is that like a common thing?

Speaker 33 No,

Speaker 35 well, yes, well,

Speaker 35 Mexico, when I got into business in a locker room,

Speaker 35 Mexico was noted for people

Speaker 35 how I'm trying to think, because Adrian Street had been there and he mentioned it, that some way or another, they would light

Speaker 35 books of matches and fling them at you, but they put some on it where if it landed, it would stick to you.

Speaker 35 And

Speaker 35 also.

Speaker 35 They would piss in cups. If you were walking through the

Speaker 35 underneath a bleacher or whatever, they'd they'd piss in a cup and dump it on your head. I've had guys tell me that in the Bahamas,

Speaker 35 and definitely I know that this happened a couple of times in Puerto Rico.

Speaker 35 There were kids that would sit outside the building and sell the people rocks that they could put in their pockets so they could throw at the heels.

Speaker 35 So, I mean, it just depends on, you know, rocks, we got rocks,

Speaker 33 all different sizes, rocks.

Speaker 35 Yeah, get your rocks here. Get your rocks.
But I think Japan is the only country

Speaker 35 because Canada, my God, they used to have sword fights in fucking parking lots of some of the shows in Ontario.

Speaker 35 And

Speaker 35 the heels in Toronto back in the 40s had to hide under the ring. They built the ramp to keep the wrestlers from being lynched by the participants, by the patrons.

Speaker 35 But Canada, United States, Mexico,

Speaker 35 everywhere that I can think of except Japan

Speaker 35 has had fan violence.

Speaker 33 They throw the seat cushions, but that's only when they're disappointed in the booking.

Speaker 35 Yeah.

Speaker 33 That wasn't about heat. That was like, we reject this.

Speaker 35 But otherwise, no, I mean,

Speaker 35 not even talking about just the creative ways, but the just various stabbings and knifings and. shooting addings and things over the years.
No, the

Speaker 35 guys that's,

Speaker 35 I understand, especially for the ladies. And this is, I don't care what, whether I'm a fan of the particular girl wrestler or not, or whatever, but for the ladies now,

Speaker 35 it's unnerving. It should be unnerving.
And they ought to give them security, especially the the ones that anybody knows. I mean, not every independent girl needs a bodyguard.

Speaker 35 They can kind of blend in.

Speaker 35 But I have have

Speaker 35 a hard time, you know,

Speaker 35 sympathizing with the guys. Oh, they're haranguing me for my autograph and this and that and invading my privacy.
There were people trying to run us down on the fucking interstate.

Speaker 35 So

Speaker 35 fuck off.

Speaker 33 You know, more than security to the ring, the women in wrestling today legitimately need security outside the ring. There are so many crazy stalker fans.

Speaker 35 Well, that's what I'm saying. For them, it is unnerving.
And I think they should give them security.

Speaker 35 The company, I have too many pronouns, pal, the company should give them security when they're traveling to these high profile events and people have figured out where to fucking, you know, ambush them for the autographs and the pictures and the whatever.

Speaker 35 And I think they should, for the guys, they should have security just to get them through crowds. But I don't.

Speaker 35 I don't feel like any of the guys should be afraid of their lives, just afraid of their goddamn day being spoiled by a bunch of assholes.

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Speaker 35 nevertheless

Speaker 35 speaking of assholes brian just real quickly

Speaker 35 Wouldn't you know who won the pony? Can we be

Speaker 35 entertaining today or tell jokes or is that now illegal in the united states of trumpistan

Speaker 35 can we can we still have fun and laugh or is it do we have to wait until the government lets us know i think we're i just i don't know the protocol i think we're safe we're not on broadcast tv

Speaker 35 well we don't need a license for what we do we're completely unlicensed uh-oh

Speaker 33 god damn it oh it's totally government oh my god

Speaker 35 please don't answer it while I'm on the phone. The gas may come through the fucking line.

Speaker 33 I've hung up. If I'm not here in a few minutes, I've hung up.

Speaker 35 Anyway, we'll talk a little bit lower so not as many people can hear us. Oh, my God.

Speaker 35 We don't need to be licensed here since we're just two guys doing podcasts, man.

Speaker 35 But

Speaker 35 if you're

Speaker 35 one of the

Speaker 35 former celebrities in the broadcast industry where your corporate company,

Speaker 35 parent, makes billions of dollars and wants to have a merger with another company that makes billions of dollars, you better just stick to goddamn

Speaker 35 reading what they want you to read.

Speaker 35 Now, for the international folks out there around the world that still live in somewhat free societies with a thing called freedom of speech that listen to the program outside the borders of the United States of

Speaker 35 We said a few months ago, or however long it's been,

Speaker 35 they canceled the Stephen Colbert show on, I believe it was CBS. He was on CBS

Speaker 35 because still is, still is for the next. Well, he still is.
It's been canceled, but he's still on.

Speaker 35 But

Speaker 35 because

Speaker 35 dear leader didn't like what he was saying.

Speaker 35 And,

Speaker 35 oh, they said, well, the show's losing money. But let's be honest, Brynny, you can't even argue with this.

Speaker 35 If you canceled the show or contract of everybody in entertainment or sports today that is overpaid, we wouldn't have nothing to watch. Absolutely.
Fair statement.

Speaker 33 Oh, that's a very fair statement.

Speaker 35 All right.

Speaker 35 But all of a sudden, when do you know who won the pony? Stephen Colbert, because he's been mocking Schitler and his band of merry henchmen the whole way. And I mentioned at the time

Speaker 35 facts and logic and reason and evidence and video and audio and testimony and whatever has not worked.

Speaker 35 But humor gets under this fucking guy's skin because he's a tiny little man, baby, with a teeny little peenie.

Speaker 35 And his ego is so giant, he can't take it. It sends him into a turmoil, but also

Speaker 35 he knows that it's an effective tool

Speaker 35 against

Speaker 35 the thought of him, that it makes people see what a

Speaker 35 foon he really is and the incompetent people that he has put in charge by just telling the truth about him in a humorous way he can't take it

Speaker 35 so now folks around the world

Speaker 35 on abc

Speaker 35 which by the way is owned by disney which is owned by who the fuck i don't even

Speaker 35 know how far.

Speaker 33 Disney's still owned by Disney, but obviously they're trying to do deals because everyone is talking to everyone else. And also, broadcast TV, you have

Speaker 33 at this point, it's not just people who own networks, it's or people who own stations,

Speaker 33 it's companies that own a conglomerate of stations.

Speaker 35 Yes, that's that's the point is all these people, and what is it now? Next star is trying to do a merger with Zabada

Speaker 35 for billions of dollars.

Speaker 35 And the point is, after Trump crowed about Colbert being canceled,

Speaker 35 then he said, Jimmy Kimmel's going to be next because for a long time now, Jimmy Kimmel has been telling the truth and making fun

Speaker 35 of Schitler and his various associates.

Speaker 35 And again,

Speaker 35 we just found out Jimmy Kimmel has been indefinitely suspended. His program will not air.
Right after the chairman of the FCC,

Speaker 35 who was appointed by the current president,

Speaker 35 came out and said, this is terrible to allow these type of comments.

Speaker 35 And

Speaker 35 I think we ought to pull some of these TV stations that are affiliated with ABC's broadcast licenses.

Speaker 35 In other words,

Speaker 35 we, the government, are going to look into pulling the station's licenses and shutting them down because the guy on their air

Speaker 35 said something we don't like.

Speaker 35 And then

Speaker 35 also the company that owns a bunch of stations

Speaker 35 that is also goddamn wanting to own more stations

Speaker 35 that wants the merger. Well, golly, we're not going to air these programs.
It's against the public interest.

Speaker 35 It's against your fucking bank account interest.

Speaker 33 You saw the other company that got involved in terms of companies that own a lot of stations, right?

Speaker 35 Which stole Sinclair, our old friends at Sinclair Broadcasting,

Speaker 35 because the guy that owned that thing and their whole administration is a bunch of right-wing fanatics, which I wasn't even aware of at the time. I'd never heard of Sinclair broadcasting before.

Speaker 35 Gary Jester said, hey, I know a guy that works.

Speaker 35 But nevertheless, the point is,

Speaker 35 so they decided, and not only did they decide to

Speaker 35 suspend his show indefinitely,

Speaker 35 because

Speaker 35 basically they took it seriously that all of these affiliate stations may be at risk of losing their license from the FCC, which is controlled by the current administration.

Speaker 35 But they got death threats after this fucking guy, the FCC chair, Brendan Carr is his name.

Speaker 35 They were getting death threats called into Disney and the people that work at the Jimmy Kimmel show

Speaker 35 because they

Speaker 35 these people believe anything that's put out in that fucking bizarro world they live in and they feel like they got to take action on it. but nevertheless the point is

Speaker 33 freedom of speech well let me just say though what irrespective of the overall issues of you know trump trying to silence his critics i do think jimmy kimmel up and made a really ignorant comment without having any of the facts and that's probably what triggered it more than just him ranting against trump in terms of him specifically not that trump's not trying to silence all these people after he was waiting for the opportunity uh kimmel's next was through two months ago And guess who was next?

Speaker 35 Kimmel. He was waiting for an excuse that his base would fire up about

Speaker 35 to fucking put pressure from the guy that he appointed to run the fucking Federal Communications Commission on the networks to fucking take this guy off the air because he tells the truth about him.

Speaker 35 but he can't stand it because he makes jokes about him at the same time. Did I mention his teeny little ego or his giant ego and teeny little penis?

Speaker 35 But in what previous presidential administration going back to the dawn of television, Republican or Democratic,

Speaker 35 has the president and the FCC actually canceled somebody off the fucking air for saying whatever?

Speaker 35 And

Speaker 35 this fucking pig sits on the goddamn couch all the time over at Fox News, where one of their people just said last week, we ought ought to deal with the homeless by lethal injection yeah that's insane and not phrased in the form of a joke

Speaker 35 so what the fuck it's got it's insane

Speaker 35 trump doesn't want people making fun of him

Speaker 35 that's the key it's all the comedians because they can sway public opinion The people that think that this fucking guy is a savior instead of a fraud cannot be convinced otherwise by facts.

Speaker 35 They can't be convinced by evidence. It's been tried for years.

Speaker 35 But if you make fun of the fucker, everybody laughs, especially when it's all true.

Speaker 35 And that's the way that we'll get him eventually.

Speaker 35 And that's why he's doing this right now.

Speaker 33 Well, again,

Speaker 33 I agree that Trump and his administration are doing everything they can to silence critics, but specific with Jimmy Kimmel.

Speaker 33 And And I don't think Jimmy Kimmel or Stephen Colbert are motivating young people or moving young people. It's more just them making fun of him.
He doesn't like it.

Speaker 33 But with Kimmel, you know, Kimmel, who doesn't have a big audience, should have known better too. He basically gave them what they needed to get rid of him.

Speaker 35 Okay, go ahead. I'm sorry.

Speaker 33 So I think that's part of the thing too.

Speaker 33 If Jimmy Kimmel had 10 million viewers a night, and I know that's an impossibility in the modern day world for any late night show to have that unless someone really took off like Steve Austin or something.

Speaker 33 Like no one's getting those kind of numbers. Then maybe

Speaker 33 someone would fight on his behalf on whether it's the network or anyone else because he was bringing so much money in. But, you know, when you have

Speaker 33 a small audience and you know that they're out for you, you know that the administration does not like you and hasn't for a while and has made it pretty clear that they're coming for you.

Speaker 33 You should probably also be extra careful. I'm not saying that's right.
I don't think that's right.

Speaker 35 But see, that's also

Speaker 35 what they want. They want people because we cancel a couple of the names, then everybody else will fall in line and the TV stations will be scared and they're going to lose their license.

Speaker 35 That's what they want.

Speaker 35 But with Kimmel,

Speaker 35 I'm sure he thought just what you said. He don't give a fuck.
Because it wasn't just that shit. He hosted the fucking Oscars.
He just won the Emmy for the hosting of prime time.

Speaker 35 Oh, the goddamn wants to be who wants to be a millionaire remake, revamp, whatever. And that was a primetime show.

Speaker 35 And a couple of the last contract he signed, they had to talk him into it.

Speaker 35 And he was joking about, like, I'd like to quit anytime just because he's got fuck you money.

Speaker 33 And other people were

Speaker 33 that, that's the point.

Speaker 35 But

Speaker 35 if

Speaker 35 another network has any balls, they would immediately put him on something

Speaker 35 because

Speaker 35 they're getting a host of the Oscars, for fuck's sake.

Speaker 33 See, that's the interesting thing.

Speaker 35 They're getting a fucking guy that's seen by tens of millions of people at some point because of the numerous things he does. But they've also got a guy who, if nobody hires him,

Speaker 35 he can do whatever he wants. He's fucking rich.
And that's why he don't give a shit. And that's why he was telling the fucking truth.

Speaker 33 Well, I think a lot of these guys like having the forum, and that's going going to be the interesting thing i don't think another network's going to take a chance at least right now on any of these people for the next few years i don't think they will where will they go will it be a netflix will it be something like that it's going to be interesting i wish trumpet started with fallon because he's the he's been the biggest offender of bad comedy and bad weak let's hug celebrities and everything's wonderful and let's just all smile that brand of fucking late night talk show which ruined late night talk

Speaker 33 letterman and craig ferguson left and then late night talk died and here's where we are but

Speaker 33 and letterman ain't a fan of this uh no did you see what he said i did see that because coincidentally enough he was speaking at like some conference when all this happened i don't even know what the conference was but uh the bearded david letterman who yeah you know he's

Speaker 33 He said all the things you would expect him to say if you ever watched his show.

Speaker 35 And it's just

Speaker 35 a ridiculous affront to the supposed free speech that these clowns have been advocating for, which

Speaker 35 they advocate for the free speech from their side when it's bullshit. But when you fact-check them or give them some of their own shit back, that, oh, that's horrible.

Speaker 33 On both sides, though, I do think both sides conflate free speech with,

Speaker 33 you know, there's a difference between standing outside and saying whatever you want or going on Twitter and saying what you want and going on someone else's airwaves and saying it, because you're not going to get in trouble.

Speaker 33 They'll get in trouble. I remember when Howard Stern, when he was still a great radio show host years and years ago, when the FCC came after him,

Speaker 33 I believe it wasn't really about him. They came after the company.
And people thought at the time, yeah, because if they fuck with the company and give them fines, they'll drop him.

Speaker 33 You know, that was the philosophy. The FCC fucking with people isn't a new thing.

Speaker 33 People being censored for saying what their audience, like the Smothers brothers, I mean, people don't even bring them up in the context of all this, but

Speaker 33 the Nixon administration made sure that the Smothers brothers got off the air.

Speaker 35 Yeah, that

Speaker 35 I appreciate your Stern analogy, but at the same time, we're not talking about people that are, you know, talking about whipped cream up strippers pussies or whatever.

Speaker 35 You know, so the Smothers Brothers

Speaker 35 comparison is the most apt, I think, because the Nixon administration made sure that they didn't keep swaying those young people with all this fucking truthiness.

Speaker 33 It's the most apt in terms of a comparison to the situation. The Howard Stern one is most apt in terms of what kind of damage the FCC can try to do to your company.

Speaker 35 But at least then the FCC, it was just run by a bunch of old white stick in the muds that were upset about all this

Speaker 35 fucking profanity and things and such and that nature rather than we need to shut this shit down because we're getting away with stuff and these people are telling on us.

Speaker 33 Do you know much about the broadcast licenses, how that works? Because obviously that's the big threat. If you don't comply with us, we'll suspend your license or take your license.

Speaker 33 I don't know exactly how it works, but what goes into having one?

Speaker 33 Like, there's a difference between broadcast and basic cable, even though in this day and age, usually if you have broadcasts, I shouldn't say usually, but a lot of people get it through cable.

Speaker 33 So it's all like the same bundle in a lot of ways.

Speaker 35 Well, hold on here, cowboy.

Speaker 35 And I'm not prepared to answer your question in depth as a scholarly treatise, and there's nuances to all this stuff, but in basic form,

Speaker 35 from the time that radio stations and or television stations went on the air, anything where an entity broadcast over the airwaves to the public,

Speaker 35 and even the

Speaker 35 citizen, not citizens ban, but ham radios, as they used to call them, the old radio fanatics that would have radios in their garages.

Speaker 35 That's why they had to have call letters they had to have like some type of even home license this is hi this is ck4w5

Speaker 35 but you needed to have a license and gradually the entity

Speaker 35 that would oversee that was became the federal communications commission and for television especially because they looked at TV stations in the early days, not at necessarily as,

Speaker 35 well, the people who owned them looked at them as profit-making enterprises, but the goal of

Speaker 35 mankind was for them to be public services for news and entertainment and whatever.

Speaker 35 So there were things you couldn't just fucking

Speaker 35 beam

Speaker 35 people saying, fuck you, all the time into the goddamn people's homes where the little kiddies could watch. And you couldn't.

Speaker 35 you know, show graphic sex or people being their heads being chopped off or whatever the fuck that you might be able to get away with on modern day cable or home video

Speaker 35 and so if you did things that were against the public interest or however they phrased it unacceptable to local standards they could suspend your license for doing something or fine you

Speaker 35 the same thing with radio stations for doing

Speaker 35 bits that went over the line.

Speaker 33 Yeah, and it was always crazy. I'm sure it probably still is now.

Speaker 33 You don't hear about it as much in terms of the process, but it could literally be someone in the middle of the day watching you on a talk show. And they're like, I don't like what they said.

Speaker 33 I'm going to write to the FCC.

Speaker 33 And if they would, the FCC, if they wanted to fuck with you, they would. And they could.

Speaker 35 Well, there was an example. Oh, what was her name?

Speaker 35 I don't want to call her name anyway. They might embarrass her even after all these years, but in Charlotte, 35 years ago,

Speaker 35 the morning radio team at

Speaker 35 radio station that did the comedy morning radio show, right?

Speaker 35 They got a phone call. Some dipshit was trying to call their like competitor radio station to be the fifth caller to win the car or whatever, right?

Speaker 35 He says, hi, am I the fifth caller to win the car? And they're like, oh, yeah, you won the car. Come on down and get it.

Speaker 35 And did a big deal, yeah, hey, yeah, it's a beautiful car. Whatever the fuck he yanked this guy's chain on the air because the people that were listening to the radio

Speaker 35 knew that the guy it was that it was a up right

Speaker 35 but the guy went down to the goddamn dealership or wherever the other radio station wherever it was demanded the car the other radio station called that radio station he got him fired off the air man for something that

Speaker 33 you know i got another example we talked recently about and i've had a few people write in and say what's the real story with how la lost the english-speaking television i believe believe Greg Valentine said something over the line, and that was it.

Speaker 33 But the road to get there, correct me if I'm wrong, you may know this.

Speaker 33 I believe there was a viewer of Studio Wrestling from LA with Dick Lane that started complaining to the FCC

Speaker 33 about the local promos being commercials

Speaker 33 and that they were doing too many commercials in the show, and that got them in trouble. Do you know what I'm talking about?

Speaker 35 Yeah, I can't again quote chapter and verse, but yes, that was a thing.

Speaker 35 And it was the same.

Speaker 35 Again, there were regulations in those days before that was, you couldn't do an in-fomercial back in those days because only a set number of minutes per hour on a commercial television station could actually be commercials.

Speaker 35 You had to,

Speaker 35 and that's why you see edited versions of all those 50 sitcoms when you see the DVD version and there's like, I've never seen that before.

Speaker 35 That used to be like, in those days, maybe four minutes per half hour. Now in modern times, it's eight.

Speaker 35 But nevertheless,

Speaker 35 if the commercials went over a certain amount of time, it was against FCC regulations.

Speaker 35 And

Speaker 35 a number of wrestling territories got hit. Do you remember in

Speaker 35 the

Speaker 35 day?

Speaker 35 Okay, you might not know that just it was a little subtle thing, but in the days of TBS, the Saturday night show,

Speaker 35 Georgia Championship Wrestling, when they would do interviews at the desk and then would then suddenly go to the 30-second promo with music behind it, the Omni with the graphics.

Speaker 35 So

Speaker 35 okay.

Speaker 35 They had to tell the top guys.

Speaker 35 When you start talking, when you start doing your promo, just talk generally about your opponent or talk about the match or whatever, but don't say anything about the Omni.

Speaker 35 Don't say anything about it. And then at the end of your promo, that's when they jump in.
And it's going to happen at the Omni.

Speaker 35 And then they'd cut to that fucking spot or the graphic would pop up in the middle of their promo when they turned to talk about the Omni.

Speaker 35 Then the graphic on the screen, the Omni, Sunday night, tickets available, Tickatron.

Speaker 35 Because they couldn't even make the whole goddamn, if the whole interview had the specifics of the date and the place that was considered a commercial.

Speaker 35 So they had to make it that fine for a couple of years there on The Georgia show.

Speaker 35 It was fucking insane.

Speaker 33 It's interesting, though, just because it is a hard line. You know, if you watch a 90-minute Memphis show, so much of that show is a commercial for Memphis that Monday night.

Speaker 35 Jesus Christ, one segment of what might be 15 minutes on the Monday night card with guys coming out and going and things. It was just that was

Speaker 35 but nobody nobody ever complained

Speaker 35 they might have had a problem i don't know i complained when i got the 60 minute show i said where's all that stuff i missed but that anyway nevertheless we're going to be missing a lot of stuff apparently i'll just close with that because

Speaker 35 Either that or as is already happening, a bunch of people can be really, more people are pissed off about Kimmel than they were about Colbert, and it's starting to become a cumulative thing and a little bit obvious.

Speaker 35 So maybe they'll be able to tamp this down.

Speaker 35 But when you've got the alleged leader of the free world threatening the broadcasting entities or the talent on the broadcasting entities in the country supposed to be running because they're taking the piss out of him.

Speaker 35 It doesn't ever seem to end well historically.

Speaker 33 And I think the censorship is wrong. I think people being penalized for these things other than I i think people it's fine to penalize people for

Speaker 33 them not making money or ratings or whatever but this is

Speaker 33 however if it's going to happen now is the time to remake late night tv let's get some real craziness in there once again let's get rid of all the glam and the happiness and the hey let's just hang out with celebrities and talk about nothingness

Speaker 35 this is a chance but that won't happen either what kind of cutting edge of comedy or commentary do you think that people are going to want to get on tv now and talk about huh hey listen what do you think just in case they might tick somebody off

Speaker 33 there's only one person you have to worry about taking off if you could take off everyone else and survive it seems like but uh

Speaker 35 yeah i miss uh the old days of late night tv well and you know who else shouldn't shouldn't tick off i'm going to tell let me get out of this dagum screen here because i was trying to find the well i'll just go from memory

Speaker 35 because well no because there's a big news story going on here over in southern Indiana. At least we don't know that he's in Kentucky, but

Speaker 35 there is a mentally ill schizophrenic murderer on parole now missing over in southern Indiana, very close to the Louisville area.

Speaker 35 This might make some people wonder, what the fuck?

Speaker 35 I just got to tell you this real quick.

Speaker 35 A couple of days ago on the news, they put this picture up of this poor old gray-haired man with, he's got like thin,

Speaker 35 long, scraggly gray hair and a gray beard. He looks like a poor old fella, got to be in his 70s.
And they said, we have a senior citizen who's missing in southern Indiana.

Speaker 35 He's like medical situation or needs medicine or. whatever the fuck they said.

Speaker 35 And you got the way that they presented it, you got the impression, oh, poor old Uncle Joe's wandered off.

Speaker 35 Hopefully somebody can take him and lead him across the street and we'll call the cops and take him home, right? He can't find his way, type of thing.

Speaker 35 Come to find out the day later, they said, we have an update to this story, ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker 35 We weren't given all the facts. And apparently they had the

Speaker 35 deputy sheriff of whatever goddamn Hootenhollow, you know, county over there, I don't know, say, yeah, should have gotten these facts out.

Speaker 35 But this senior said he didn't wander off. He's decided to go somewhere.
He is on parole. He served,

Speaker 35 I think they said, 20-something years or

Speaker 35 served sometime for a murder 20-something years ago. He's a schizophrenic.
That's why he needs to be on his medicine.

Speaker 35 And they said, if you see him, don't approach him.

Speaker 35 Call the authorities. It went from, please help Uncle Joe home to stay away from this son of a bitch.

Speaker 35 What's the fuck? We might have needed some of that information before. If I was a person that did good deeds,

Speaker 35 what if I'd have run up on him?

Speaker 33 You think they're going to find him?

Speaker 35 How could you this? It looks like a strong wind would blow this guy over.

Speaker 35 I don't know how he's evading the fucking dragnet.

Speaker 35 And I don't,

Speaker 35 I get, even though he's mentally ill and schizophrenic, that doesn't mean he's stupid, but he's, he looks like, well, some of these old people are wiry. I was going to say he could be frail, but

Speaker 35 he'd have some kind of fez tendons or something. But anyway, so if

Speaker 35 I'll try to give you an update.

Speaker 33 Oh, I thought you were going to say, if you see someone, I didn't know where you were going there. Okay.

Speaker 35 Well, no, I'm just saying I was going to try to, I'll try to give you an update. But if anybody out there

Speaker 35 around the Kentucky southern Indiana area sees some old grayheaded fucker walking down the side of the road, just across the street, it's what I was going to say.

Speaker 33 I don't know it for sure, but I have a feeling he's headed towards Letcher County.

Speaker 35 You know, he could fit in down there from what we've heard.

Speaker 35 Might as well put everybody in, and that way they could just keep the reporters in one place and they could report on all the stories at the same time.

Speaker 35 But you know, Brian, you know, where they should not cross the road to get away from?

Speaker 33 Where's that?

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Speaker 33 All right. Brian,

Speaker 35 should we continue on with programming now?

Speaker 33 Oh, no. No, yes, of course.
Of course.

Speaker 35 Oh, boy, for a second there, my heart jumped. I was like, he wants to quit.

Speaker 35 Well, guess what they've done out in California?

Speaker 35 Guess what kind of bird don't fly, Brian?

Speaker 35 A jailbird.

Speaker 35 They finally arrested old Roger Jackson, the delinquent son, delinquent adult son

Speaker 35 of the former UFC champion, whatever weight division he was in, Quentin Rampage Jackson, for bashing Psycho Stew's head in in that.

Speaker 35 I guess people have heard about it by now. I would normally would give more history, but goddamn, I think more people have heard about this than than the fucking assassination of Kennedy.

Speaker 35 So I won't give other details besides Roger Jackson beat up Psycho Stew. Everybody was up in arms.
It's been a month. Nothing was done.
And finally,

Speaker 35 they arrested him, but they arrested him on a, not only arrested him, I should say, but they arrested him on a felony.

Speaker 35 A felony, a felony.

Speaker 35 And

Speaker 35 he was in jail, I guess, till

Speaker 35 can you, is California like a 24-hour deal where you can just bail out at any time? I heard he got out at five o'clock in the morning.

Speaker 35 Jails out here close at night and don't open that early in the morning.

Speaker 33 It says here,

Speaker 33 you know, it was 5.09 Pacific time. Yeah, it is 5.09 in the morning.

Speaker 35 I don't know how that happened.

Speaker 35 They must have extra special goods service out there to be able to, you tried to get some kind of bail or anything else around here about three o'clock in the morning. What the fuck?

Speaker 35 Throw a bucket of water on him.

Speaker 33 Yeah, this is from TMZ. The update as of today, as we are recording 5:09 a.m.

Speaker 33 Pacific time, TMZ Sports has learned that Roger Jackson was booked on a felony charge of battery with serious bodily injury. He's already bonded out, a jail official tells us.

Speaker 35 But anyway, nevertheless,

Speaker 35 it's still an arrest and still a felony.

Speaker 35 And

Speaker 35 I'm trying to find the exact charge here because I have an article in front of me.

Speaker 33 What do you think about the fact that it took this long?

Speaker 35 Well,

Speaker 35 I mean, it's not like somebody robbed a bank, knocked somebody over the head to some stranger and took off. It wasn't a cut and dried thing like that.
I guess they had to.

Speaker 35 Well, we got to figure out what happened here, what we ought to do. And of course, then it became paperwork and going through channels.
And so, yeah, in

Speaker 35 a big city, I'm not surprised.

Speaker 35 But nevertheless,

Speaker 35 this fucking guy

Speaker 35 is obviously going to have some

Speaker 35 difficulty getting out of this because he's admitted to everything they're going to charge him with on the video that he fucking shot

Speaker 35 or had shot, was cooperating with shootings. So, besides,

Speaker 35 I don't know how in the world he's going to find

Speaker 35 an attorney to take his case or any kind of competent attorney to take his case.

Speaker 35 You know,

Speaker 35 he's just, he's fucked himself.

Speaker 35 And

Speaker 35 again, this, I don't know where Psycho Stu's head is at.

Speaker 35 Because if

Speaker 35 he's going to be called to testify,

Speaker 35 and even if he says no i don't want to press charges

Speaker 35 you know it's oh it's it's a misunderstanding well just tell us what actually happened well i don't know because he knocked me out and then i woke up in the hospital what's it

Speaker 33 i can't imagine a more clear-cut case of felony assault i mean it's on video everyone has seen it even no matter what Set it up, if you want to be one of these people attacking Psycho Stew for drinking before the the show or trying to set up the angle or apologizing, whatever it was, it doesn't matter.

Speaker 33 The assault still happened and it was on video and there were witnesses and there were people there who saw the whole thing go down, including Roger Jackson running away.

Speaker 33 So I can't imagine a more open and shut case than this. Can you?

Speaker 35 No. And that's why.

Speaker 35 You know, Rampage Jackson may be a Hall of Fame fighter, but goddamn, he's a weasel

Speaker 35 in trying to get out of shit in every other way. Since this whole thing started, he has gone through or at least floated,

Speaker 35 laid the groundwork for every kind of goddamn legal defense.

Speaker 35 And it's one thing one day and one thing the next day.

Speaker 35 The latest stuff, remember, was that

Speaker 35 I ain't spoke to him since then. You know, I'm not cutting him off forever.

Speaker 35 Here's the quote on this story. I'm not cutting him off forever.
I just haven't talked to him.

Speaker 33 Who paid the bond?

Speaker 35 Well,

Speaker 35 we'll get to that in a second. But that was, then he said, well, I think he should do, he shouldn't go to prison.
He should go to jail.

Speaker 35 Maybe do a little timer, community service, go to anger management class. The first time he heard about it, the first thing he heard was, well, he had a concussion in training a couple of weeks ago.

Speaker 35 Well, then the guy with the can gave him a concussion. Well, then, oh, wait a minute, that, that's fake wrestling.
He's a real fighter. He shouldn't have got involved.

Speaker 35 They shouldn't have put him in that.

Speaker 35 And then it's, well, he hadn't been the same since his mother got murdered. I don't, I don't even know.
Then it was,

Speaker 35 well, I, I, you know, I, I, he hadn't been doing what I told him, I tell him to do since he became an adult. Now he's trying to put some space in there.

Speaker 35 He's an adult because he knows he might have some liability. Then it's been all over the fucking page.

Speaker 33 Yeah, I saw them blame some MMA reporter. They claimed that he was racist.
And then I saw a whole bunch of people say, I read him all the time. He's not racist.

Speaker 33 Like, he's taken, Rem Page Jackson has taken every side of this from,

Speaker 33 yes, he should go to, I will do whatever I can to protect him and anyone attacking him as a racist. To I think.

Speaker 33 I could be wrong, but I believe some of the quotes I saw for him, he may be one of the people also kind of putting putting some of the blame on Psycho Stew.

Speaker 35 Well, yeah, and that's that's the thing

Speaker 35 is that he's been in public statements. It's like the last

Speaker 35 thing that somebody said to him in a way of, well, you ought to make sure they know he's an adult, or you ought to make sure, you know, that this was a scripted thing and he's a fighter, or whatever legal,

Speaker 35 you know, plan they might have had at that exact moment is what he's blurted out of his mouth. Or, you know, or you can't get any on you, say he ought to do a little jail time, but not prison.

Speaker 35 Or just, you know, what?

Speaker 35 So I think this guy's a fucking idiot, too, to be quite honest with you. I think it's a family of fucking idiots.

Speaker 33 Yeah, they're lucky it's not attempted murder, quite frankly.

Speaker 35 What I'm, I've had two different, yes, I'm just, I had two different articles, and I cannot find what the exact charge was. Booked on a felony charge, this says, but I can't.

Speaker 35 It was some type of felonious fucking assault with intent to,

Speaker 35 I don't know,

Speaker 33 I don't fuck out of.

Speaker 35 Yes, I don't know. Felonious monk.
Yes. I cannot find this job.
Well, anyway,

Speaker 35 I'm just a small town burger. Battery.

Speaker 33 Felony charge of battery with serious bodily injury.

Speaker 35 Serious bodily injury. That's exactly what I just said.
So, see, you repeated me.

Speaker 35 And that sounds like enough to me for people to chew on for a little while.

Speaker 35 So So

Speaker 35 we do

Speaker 35 wish Roger Jackson very well in his future endeavors, which include trying to find any competent lawyer that could defend this fucking open and shut case. He might as well just

Speaker 35 not even throw, but splay himself on the mercy of the court, shouldn't he?

Speaker 33 Makes you wonder what's going to happen to a guy like that if he goes to jail. Is he going to be as tough there? Is he going to be,

Speaker 33 is he going to have to, who knows?

Speaker 33 For the rest of this guy's life, he's going to have to wonder about if there's a wrestler behind me ready to attack me.

Speaker 35 Well, I know that you often think about what it would be like if somebody went to jail, Brian, but I think here's the thing.

Speaker 33 I've got a few candidates. I've got a few candidates.

Speaker 35 With Roger.

Speaker 35 With Roger,

Speaker 35 it's not good.

Speaker 35 If it was Rampage Jackson, I'm sure they would treat him like God, because regardless of what he might have done, unless it is something involving, you know, children or whatever that's frowned upon in that environment, they would still think, hey, here's one of the toughest fighters ever, and here's a UFC champion, here's a big-time celebrity.

Speaker 35 You wouldn't fuck with him. But isn't Raj Jackson, who beat up an unconscious guy, going to be viewed as the George Gulis of

Speaker 35 Sons of Prison and UFC and like this fucking little prick?

Speaker 35 And let's, you know, let's make sure he's real welcome.

Speaker 33 He may sound like George Goois after they get through with him in prison.

Speaker 35 Yeah, a couple of fucking shots to the face. I see, you'd like to lose a few of your teeth there, Roger.

Speaker 35 But that's so, I don't think that he'll have any kind of, he's the only reason he's a celebrity is because of this.

Speaker 35 And he's, he's a disappointment to the

Speaker 35 to the, you know, the celebrity that

Speaker 35 they would look up to.

Speaker 33 Well, adios, Roger.

Speaker 33 We'll be following the trial when it happens.

Speaker 35 Yes, we will. And when we wish you well again in your future endeavors, but you know what he's going to need to do, don't you, Brian?

Speaker 35 Old Roger Jackson, he is going to need to stock up on things that are going to make his life a little easier, make his life looking just a little bit better, just a little more hopeful, just

Speaker 35 helping him unwind, just help him take the stress away, working on his mental, misimal, his mental wellness.

Speaker 33 Sounds like Jim's been sampling some of the product. Keep going, Jim.

Speaker 35 Well, I'm just trying to tell you the physical and mental wellness is what I was trying to say. He's going to need stuff that does all of that.

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Speaker 35 And he is stocking up on cornbread, hemps, CBD gummies right now because they are formulated to work with your body, Brian, not against it.

Speaker 35 See, he was working against old Psycho Stu's body.

Speaker 33 Well, again, we don't have any reason to suspect or know that Roger Jackson is a customer of cornbread hemp, and it would probably help him to have some cornbread hemp in his life.

Speaker 35 Well, you know, that's a true statement because I don't know that he is smart enough to be a customer of cornbread hemp. He's probably

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Speaker 35 Well, Brian, I understand we've got some results of some polling that has been done.

Speaker 35 Now, this is not like, you know, the minute, widespread numbers like the Nielsen ratings or a Reuters poll or something.

Speaker 35 It's not that official, but it hopefully is pretty indicative of what's going on. Can you tell us more about this?

Speaker 33 And it's not the Pew Poll either. Jim, we did a poll.

Speaker 35 We did a poll. You know, I was one time a pupil

Speaker 35 of the Pew Poll. I studied it very,

Speaker 35 all right.

Speaker 33 We did a poll for the Culticornet Facebook group because I was very interested to hear what the results would be.

Speaker 33 And we got 848 votes for the question: Have you already downloaded and signed up for the ESPN app?

Speaker 35 Aha!

Speaker 33 Because the pay-per-view, as we are recording, has not happened yet. And I still don't have the app, and I got to figure out how I'm getting it and blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 35 And just an update for you to know that Stacey has assured me that we have the capability, we can rebuild him.

Speaker 35 We have the capability.

Speaker 35 And she has found now, because like a week ago, when she looked, the WWE logo was not not even on this fucking thing.

Speaker 35 But now the WWE logo is on there. So now the final step is to somehow install it on the TV in the TV room where that I can get to it.
But that's where we are.

Speaker 33 Well again, 848 respondents to this poll where there were four options. Have you already downloaded and signed up for the app? Yes, no, I don't plan to, or I'm waiting for a PLE I care about.

Speaker 33 That got 1%.

Speaker 33 I'm waiting for a PLE I care about. 1% meaning 1%.

Speaker 33 13 votes for that. Okay.

Speaker 33 14%

Speaker 33 voted yes.

Speaker 33 They have already downloaded and signed up for the app. That's 114 votes.

Speaker 35 Okay.

Speaker 33 No,

Speaker 33 they have not already downloaded and signed up for the app. It is at 15%.

Speaker 33 135 votes.

Speaker 35 Okay.

Speaker 33 And finally, 70% for for I don't plan to

Speaker 33 588 votes.

Speaker 35 Good lord.

Speaker 35 It is not a popular move, it doesn't look like to this thing of a jig, a thing of a bob that they've come up with now.

Speaker 35 That is so 588, did you say out of 800 and what?

Speaker 33 It was, yeah, 588, 70% out of 848 votes.

Speaker 35 So,

Speaker 35 I mean, is our audience skewed because they've just had all they can stands and they can't stands no more?

Speaker 35 They're not the really rabid people that are going to sit down and just follow this thing wherever it goes? Or do you think this is indicative of the mainstream population, Brian?

Speaker 33 I don't know. At a minimal, it's a microcosm of

Speaker 33 a chunk of the wrestling audience.

Speaker 33 That's why I put the option I'm waiting for a PLE I care about because I could see someone saying, I'm not not going to do it for this, but Royal Rumble or WrestleMania. Absolutely.
I have to.

Speaker 33 I have my friends over, you know, whatever the argument is.

Speaker 35 Yeah.

Speaker 33 But I don't plan to. Not even no.
I haven't downloaded it yet. I don't plan to.

Speaker 33 I think that says something. And,

Speaker 33 you know, big matches, big stars, big promos can change things. We've seen that happen.

Speaker 33 It causes rejection to change. But the fact that this percentage of this voting body,

Speaker 33 you would have to guess, is a little bit disgusted if their answer is, I don't plan to.

Speaker 35 Yeah.

Speaker 35 And again, it's something else that you have to keep up with now. They're making it so difficult to

Speaker 35 just for people to remember where they need to go to watch the thing they want to watch. It's not even

Speaker 35 in a lot of cases with some people, the cost is just the goddamn inconvenience.

Speaker 35 Or, you know,

Speaker 35 I don't want to keep track of all this shit.

Speaker 33 Yeah, and looking and looking through some of the comments here, a lot of them, the ones that are positive are typically the ones I have Hulu Live, so I already have it, said one person.

Speaker 33 I already have it through a bundle. I have different means to watch.
Whatever that means, says another person here. I'll catch the highlights on YouTube.
Here's one. I'll give his name, Jim Johnston.

Speaker 33 I don't think it's the famous one.

Speaker 33 I have wished TKO the best in their future endeavors. Wow.
Not a penny more from me. I'll buy bootleg belts and shirts if I want any classic merchandise.

Speaker 33 But as far as I'm concerned, the wrestling company I grew up with went out of business the day after Mania last year.

Speaker 35 Geez.

Speaker 33 That's what I'm curious. How many people have that kind of attitude that this is not my WWE?

Speaker 33 Not that you're approving of Vince or anything, but based more on the corporate actions and the prices, this is not my WWE anymore that's very interesting

Speaker 35 yeah it's just i think

Speaker 35 there was still a connection in a lot of people's minds

Speaker 35 events was a part of it but wasn't all of it but the fact that the mcmahon family and that it was still in somewhat similar control

Speaker 35 that i think that

Speaker 35 the fans still viewed it as, okay,

Speaker 35 it's gotten bigger, but it's still wrestling and it's wrestling people and we're wrestling fans.

Speaker 35 And, you know, it's still something we can do with the kids or just, you know, with the friends or whoever you go with, even go to a pay-per-view. Yeah, we could do that.

Speaker 35 Now it's a goddamn multi-billion dollar conglomerate cash grab that's selling to the Saudis and selling. They're selling out to Kansas City.

Speaker 35 They're selling to anybody that'll give them money and they're taking as much of yours as possible and it's working with a lot of people but a lot of people are not real happy about it and that's the

Speaker 35 the people that

Speaker 35 know especially what it was like a few years ago when

Speaker 35 to be quite honest it

Speaker 35 the product is hotter now for doing less than ever

Speaker 35 And, you know,

Speaker 35 it's great for the for the boys, for the talent, it's great for everybody.

Speaker 35 But there's been points in time where they were getting better shows for a lot less money.

Speaker 35 And they're the ones that, like I said, it was still the connection to the old days of wrestling, also, where

Speaker 35 they didn't expect

Speaker 35 this thing to be this big and cost this much and

Speaker 35 be this obvious.

Speaker 35 Does that make any sense?

Speaker 33 Yeah, it does. And again, it's a changing world, a changing environment for both television and wrestling.

Speaker 33 But,

Speaker 33 you know, there aren't a lot of options. You worry more about losing wrestling fans for the future than anything else if they really are that disgusted.
And again, a hot angle changes everything.

Speaker 33 There are lots of people who said, I would never like WWE, and then Steve Austin came along. You know, things happen.

Speaker 33 But my question for you is the success they're having all around the world and specifically, I guess, here in America or North America.

Speaker 33 Do you think it's because of the product they're producing right now, or are they riding the wave still of how hot things were a year and a half ago, two years ago?

Speaker 35 Well, I mean, it's a little bit of a combination of both. Once you get those people, you have to really fuck up bad to run them off.

Speaker 35 And

Speaker 35 it's new markets, and it's their,

Speaker 35 again,

Speaker 35 almost unlimited reach now as far as publicity and sponsorships and

Speaker 35 packages.

Speaker 35 See, what a lot of people about running the live event don't realize is if the goddamn city of Bugtussle, in search city here,

Speaker 35 is paying you to come to bring this entertainment event,

Speaker 35 you don't have to go out and beat the bushes for publicity anymore. You don't have to pay through the teeth for a newspaper ad.
That's bad. You got the keys to the city.

Speaker 33 Yeah, I actually just saw Nick Con did an interview where he said, like, you know, they have to put up posters around the city. They, they, the city has to do all these things to get them.

Speaker 35 Yeah. So that's so.

Speaker 35 And the television shows that they represent the stars of and that they can get the cross-pollination of their talent on to promote the things and everything. There, it's

Speaker 35 no to answer your question which i can't even remember at this point how you phrased it but it's a combination of both of those things that they're not only riding a wave of how hot things were a couple of years ago whatever but they're expanding the ways that they can promote and publicize and get the word out and it's become a thing and they have to do less because the new people they're bringing in don't know that they're just standing there and watching fucking people talk to them for hundreds of dollars.

Speaker 35 They didn't, they never saw a two-hour wrestling show where there was goddamn mayhem and chaos and

Speaker 35 thank you for coming. We'll see you next week.

Speaker 35 So they don't have anything to compare it to.

Speaker 35 But here's one thing about

Speaker 35 their

Speaker 35 financial attitude toward, well, Vince was pricing for the families and we're, you know, they're just coming out and admitting it, blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 35 One thing that Jerry Jarrett told me the first time I was on television ever, not as a manager, but the first time I was on television ever,

Speaker 35 which is when he used me as a reason to have Jackie Fargo in a TV studio one Saturday morning. You know this, right?

Speaker 33 Yeah.

Speaker 35 When I presented him with the award.

Speaker 33 Yeah, for wrestler of the decade. Yes.
In what, 81?

Speaker 35 Because, yeah, I was doing the championship wrestling magazine, and Jerry Jarrett had me

Speaker 35 come down to present Fargo with the Wrestler of the Decade award.

Speaker 35 And then later on, Dream Machine was going to turn back heel and Fargo's, all this other shit was going to go on, but it was a reason for him to be there.

Speaker 35 And he wanted me to introduce Fargo and I said something about Chasse like the biggest box office attraction. He said, no.
And think about Jerry Jarrett,

Speaker 35 for all everybody says about him, that basically didn't like him because he didn't pay them very well.

Speaker 35 He had a master of the simplest terms of wrestling psychology.

Speaker 35 He said, don't say anything about how much he drew at the box office.

Speaker 35 Say he was the most popular. or say the fans loved him,

Speaker 35 but don't talk about how much money he drew because then that reminds the fans that they paid a lot of money to see him.

Speaker 35 The heels brag

Speaker 35 about how much money they make

Speaker 35 from the wrestling promoter. The babyfaces never mention the money they make.

Speaker 35 It's the championships they win.

Speaker 35 Think about that.

Speaker 33 That's brilliant. Yeah.

Speaker 35 He didn't want to remind the, he he wanted the people to be reminded how much they loved Jackie Fargo and how much he meant to them, not how much they paid to see him.

Speaker 33 You know, I don't know why it reminds me of it because it's not a straight line, but his insistence that the rock and roll expresses music, rock and roll is king by E. L.
O.

Speaker 33 be edited to take up the mind about the land of fantasy. I guess he was really big on just.

Speaker 33 words or thoughts or concepts like that triggering the wrong thought in the fan.

Speaker 35 Yes, he knew that it was all subliminal shit that had an effect on you over a period of time.

Speaker 35 Unless it was just the worst thing you ever saw, it wasn't going to kill something instantly.

Speaker 35 But even the best thing that you ever saw could be diminished by little subliminal things over time that make you think negatively about it.

Speaker 35 The line in the song was, come along with me to a land of make-believe. Whama, Lama, Bama, rock and roll is king.

Speaker 35 He had the land of make-believe line edited out when they played it on television.

Speaker 35 And, you know, but

Speaker 35 that's again, it was little simple things.

Speaker 35 And P, and he also realized that fans would overlook

Speaker 35 major either visual

Speaker 35 disparities and what they'd seen. Ooh,

Speaker 35 did that look too good? Or

Speaker 35 they would overlook almost anything if a guy or an issue was over.

Speaker 35 So that was the most important thing. If

Speaker 35 Steve Austin's kicks in the corner, guy's over,

Speaker 35 they don't see it.

Speaker 35 If the issue's over,

Speaker 35 they don't see potentially things that accidentally happen along the way. It's the basics and

Speaker 35 what effect some of these things have cumulatively, subliminally on their unconscious.

Speaker 35 Dr. Sigmund Freud Jarrett.

Speaker 35 Oh boy, what do you think Dr. Sigmund Freud Jarrett, if he was alive today, would think of AEW, Brian?

Speaker 33 Again, if you're watching it expecting good booking,

Speaker 33 you're out of luck. If you're watching it for good wrestling matches, it depends depends what kind of wrestling you like well yeah i think you're still out of luck it's just that uh

Speaker 35 some of this may appeal to the audience who likes that type of thing

Speaker 35 what

Speaker 35 makes you salivate the idea of sitting down and watching a six-hour compilation of car wreck videos.

Speaker 35 What would whet your appetite for that more than sitting down and watching three hours of car wrecks?

Speaker 35 That'd get you in the mood to watch six more hours.

Speaker 33 Well, technically, I guess it would be three and a half hours, right? Or a little bit more, because they also had the preview show for the pay-per-view at the end of the night, didn't they?

Speaker 35 Oh, yeah, yeah. Well, that's true, but I tapped out.

Speaker 35 But it was a September to remember. I can't remember the last time I wanted something to be over so badly.
But you know what? September to remember is a play on in wrestling, don't you, Brian?

Speaker 33 Well, for Tony Conner, I thought it would be November to remember the ECW pay-per-view or a big event. Well, yes.

Speaker 35 And do you know where they got November to Remember? Who originally, as relates to pro wrestling, came up with the concept

Speaker 35 or the tagline or the advertising slogan, November to Remember? Who?

Speaker 35 Bob Caudle.

Speaker 33 Really?

Speaker 35 Bob Caudle came up with it in 1989.

Speaker 35 And

Speaker 35 we didn't do a video to November Rain for it or anything because November Rain had not been produced yet.

Speaker 35 But this was, Flair was the booker.

Speaker 35 This was late

Speaker 35 September, early October. So I had just joined the creative team.
But here's something about the ratings. It'll be more interesting probably than the AEW ratings.

Speaker 35 They were certainly more numerous back then.

Speaker 35 Now,

Speaker 35 again, we're used to the instant ratings and the instant quarter hours and minute by minute, and

Speaker 35 this age group, and these are the people that watched with psoriasis. They break it all down.

Speaker 35 But those days, as we've talked about before, in various ways, the ratings were more primitive. It wasn't computerized.
It took longer or whatever. Well, one of the other ways it was different

Speaker 35 was: Brian, you know, that advertisers pay the rates that the networks would set or the stations would set based on the ratings of the television programs, right?

Speaker 35 Right.

Speaker 35 Well, it was most important in those days. Do you remember a phrase? It's probably been so long, a sweeps month.
Do you remember that terminology?

Speaker 33 Of course. And that was a big time as a WWF fan growing up because when it was sweeps time, you actually got a couple of main event matches for a few weeks on the show.

Speaker 35 Okay. Well, there you go.
Thank you very much for leading into this because

Speaker 35 this was the

Speaker 35 1989 Turner Broadcasting had bought Crockett.

Speaker 35 Dusty

Speaker 35 just booked the shows

Speaker 35 from week to week, and you had main events when you needed main events. And you know the drill.
And

Speaker 35 people have seen the footage of the main events they had in the TBS studio or the matches they'd tape on the Crockett tours and the bash or whatever.

Speaker 35 But in those days, it was normal television not to have

Speaker 35 a competitive match like really, it was all mostly job guys and squash matches.

Speaker 35 And main event matches on TV were still, as you mentioned, kind of a novelty.

Speaker 35 So

Speaker 35 as we were sitting there in

Speaker 35 one of the meetings somewhere with her,

Speaker 35 the information was conveyed to me that what the sweeps months back then were the, I think it was November, February, and May.

Speaker 35 Those were the months that the networks would schedule, like if they had a wedding on a sitcom, or if they had some character was going to get killed on a drama show or whatever.

Speaker 33 A very special, too close for comfort.

Speaker 35 There you go.

Speaker 35 Because the ratings that they got for those specific months would determine the advertising rates for the next next whatever period. So they tried to load the shows up, right?

Speaker 35 It was a work and television. So they wanted us to do something like that.
For November, it was sweeps month.

Speaker 35 So I sat down with the talent roster and to take my mind off being on a fucking plane one day

Speaker 35 and figured out a way that we could have for every one of our TVs in November, the Saturday night show, the Sunday night show.

Speaker 35 Was the power hour a thing yet? If it was, the Friday night show.

Speaker 35 And both the syndicated shows for the month of November would each have a different competitive match involving talent on the full-time roster without giving away anything that we were trying to currently sell in the arenas.

Speaker 35 And then I pitched it to Flair and Kevin Sullivan.

Speaker 35 I said, here, this way we can advertise through the whole month. We're having a main event on every show.
Okay, great.

Speaker 35 So we go into one of the production meetings and tell

Speaker 35 the announcers and, you know, the other people involved in production what we're planning on doing.

Speaker 35 And Bob Caudle was sitting there. And it's so simple, it's genius, but he had the old time

Speaker 35 broadcasting background where you did the stand-up

Speaker 35 commercials for soap in the middle of the program, right?

Speaker 35 And he said, we can say it's going to be a November to remember.

Speaker 35 And then boom, that's it. That's what we called it.

Speaker 35 So, Bob Caudle, not Paul Heyman,

Speaker 35 is responsible for the phrase November to remember.

Speaker 35 Do you remember that November better than this September?

Speaker 35 Oh, I don't know about you. Do you remember the 21st day of September?

Speaker 35 Because this was on the 17th. It was my birthday.
They decided to give us an extra hour

Speaker 35 of this indie-level DREC. DREC is a word that's not used often enough, Brian Lass.

Speaker 33 What do you think? That wasn't a question. I agree.
I don't hear Drek used a lot. I don't hear that really ever.
No.

Speaker 35 Well, the other question was, was that November in 1989 better than this September? Oh,

Speaker 33 yes. Oh, God, yes.
Of course, unfortunately, following this period of time was Jim Hurd's

Speaker 33 1990 to forget.

Speaker 33 But yes, November to Remember was very good.

Speaker 35 1990 for amnesia. All right.

Speaker 35 So it was AEW September to Remember. The graphic was London, Canada.

Speaker 35 Not London, Ontario, London, Canada. Isn't that like saying Philadelphia, United States?

Speaker 33 I think so.

Speaker 35 Then why did they do that?

Speaker 33 Tony Khan.

Speaker 35 They're in the goddamn town. They can't spell the goddamn town right or describe the goddamn town they're in.
God damn it.

Speaker 35 Alrighty.

Speaker 35 So at least they were back in a building. They came out of the closet in Philadelphia and they're back in an actual building and had

Speaker 35 some level of audience participation there.

Speaker 33 Yeah, look good.

Speaker 33 After seeing Philadelphia for the last month or whatever, three weeks, whatever it was, look good.

Speaker 35 Yeah, and and and that's the thing is that that's had

Speaker 35 truth be told to try to give them some benefit of the doubt and break in the whole thing. Give me a break.

Speaker 35 Uh, that's been part of the ratings thing because people just look at it and go, Well, nothing big is going to happen here.

Speaker 35 You know, it's not like they're going to resurrect the ghost of Sabu. Well, maybe they might in the ECW arena.
Poor analogy

Speaker 35 but they led this thing off with the contract signing between

Speaker 35 our

Speaker 35 ill-humored world champion adam page and

Speaker 35 his

Speaker 35 his younger

Speaker 35 everyday opponent kyle felcher who looks at what was it benjamin button where suddenly he's shrinking

Speaker 35 i don't i don't even mean he's shrinking physically i mean he's getting younger and they're doing things to to him that make him look more unintimidating every day.

Speaker 35 And I don't, did

Speaker 35 is it just me?

Speaker 35 Brian, the glasses. And normally I like guys to wear suits and look like stars, Lashley and Benjamin, whatever.

Speaker 35 And this guy's got a nice physique when you see him in tights, but the nerd glasses, the shoes with no socks, the no hair,

Speaker 35 the 12-year-old face,

Speaker 35 the The suit makes him look like he's on the high school debate team, doesn't it?

Speaker 33 I don't think he looks as young as you're making it sound.

Speaker 33 I actually thought he carried himself really well at the scrum I saw a little while back.

Speaker 33 Thought he could have been a good representative for AEW, but of course he's a heel, although the baby face here really seems to like him, or at least want the best out of him.

Speaker 33 And is really rooting for him. So it kind of made me think maybe he is a babyface.
I really don't know.

Speaker 35 That's another thing.

Speaker 35 Again, they're stuck on.

Speaker 33 Every promo, every fucking Adam Page promo is the same shit.

Speaker 35 Well, and the whole television show is stuck on repeat and rewind as far as indie wrestling tropes. And in this thing with Paige is, I want you at your best.
I see.

Speaker 35 I'll quote him here in a second, but they always, it's the same kind of like five indie things that everybody always does that is revolving through this whole show.

Speaker 35 But that's the thing with Paige with the same

Speaker 35 delivery

Speaker 35 that he always had, where it's glorious verbiage that he's memorized with the growly voice, and he's trying to put a ton of thespianism in the thing.

Speaker 35 I want you to do this on your own, Kyle. I see your potential.
The entire roster could look to you to carry the company into the future, but you have to be worthy. That's a quote.

Speaker 35 I wrote, what is this shit?

Speaker 33 This guy just got the belt.

Speaker 35 And besides that, for an angle in a world title match between a fucking

Speaker 35 he

Speaker 35 paige then

Speaker 35 reveals that there's a stipulation in the contract he's about to sign that if any other member of the Don Callis family gets involved, then not only is Kyle disqualified, but he also loses the TNT title.

Speaker 35 And I'm like, I thought the heels were supposed to surprise the baby face with the hidden stipulations. Exactly.

Speaker 35 And then they give Kyle a chance to respond. And now, in addition to the visual

Speaker 35 presentation that I mentioned to you a little bit earlier, he has a voice that sounds like a cross between Alvin the Chipmunk and Claude Worthington Smythe.

Speaker 35 Is it just up here like that at the men's and the men's world title? He's saying the men's world title now.

Speaker 35 It's like it's contagious with anybody that's around Paige that has to say the men's world title.

Speaker 35 And with some of these men, there could be a doubt as to which world title they're going for, but it's just so oddly worded.

Speaker 35 And then, so

Speaker 35 Kyle signs, and Paige hesitates. I've been in your shoes,

Speaker 35 but the morning after all out, it's going to crush you.

Speaker 35 And then he does another stagey, growly rehearse statement, trying and failing to be an actor.

Speaker 35 And he says, he does the same thing. You know, I think I know who you are, but Kyle, after you lose, but at all out and in the days and years to follow, do not disappoint me.

Speaker 35 Like, you're a fine young lad. I'm going to beat you, but then don't disappoint.

Speaker 35 What kind kind of goddamn animosity is this shit supposed to fucking engender? It's horrible. Then Kyle will not stop talking.
He's got to respond again. I wrote, they won't quit.

Speaker 35 And the heel proceeds to say, I'm a man of my word. There'll be no interference.
I'm leaving the ring Saturday as champion. And tonight, I'm going to leave you bloody and unable to walk.

Speaker 35 So I'll just fuck you up tonight so that I don't have to have anybody interfere.

Speaker 35 But

Speaker 35 the heel promises that he won't cheat and at the same time promises that he's going to fuck him up in an illegal fashion.

Speaker 35 But while the babyface is telling the heel that he thinks he's going to be the guy to lead the company one day.

Speaker 35 Can you see Flair and Dusty doing this?

Speaker 33 If you had never watched AEW before and watched this and Don Callis wasn't there, you would think Kyle Fletcher was the babyface and Adam Page was the heel.

Speaker 33 Just a condescending prick heel.

Speaker 35 Yes. Yes.

Speaker 33 And it's every promo with him. There are people who think he's like the best promo in wrestling or one of them.
He speaks in an unrealistic way.

Speaker 33 He uses words that he absolutely does not use in everyday conversation and it sounds fake.

Speaker 33 And then the subtext of everything around it, the actual tone and theme of what he's saying, if you listen to it, he talks you out of caring and it doesn't even make sense.

Speaker 33 None of it makes sense. This is horrible booking.
It doesn't do anyone any favors. And Kyle Fletcher is coming across to me like the baby face.

Speaker 35 The babyface.

Speaker 33 Young, spanky-voiced babyface.

Speaker 35 Yeah, with bad fashion sense, but he'll grow up and learn how to dress. That's the most horrible thing you can accuse him of right now.
No,

Speaker 35 again,

Speaker 35 think of the other guy, the babyface, burned somebody's house down. six months ago.

Speaker 35 So what the fuck? They have no goddamn thought of what might happen in the future when people have to buy shit coming out of these foolish mouths

Speaker 35 yeah hangman adam page sucks sorry to anyone who is a fan of his for some reason but sorry to insult anyone who's a fan of the hangman

Speaker 35 or somebody has called him on the internet the hangman

Speaker 33 I did not see that.

Speaker 35 Hangman, that's even better than hang nail. I think I'm going to switch to to that if it's not copyrighted we'll have a search done on that

Speaker 35 you know what brian to be perfectly honest with you i think young kyle since he's obviously not getting any coaching or training here while he's still a young man in full possession of his faculties with a bright future ahead of him and a long time to work hard and achieve his dreams, he ought to get out of wrestling and start his own online business.

Speaker 35 Don't you think? Well, it depends.

Speaker 35 He could sell those ugly shoes he wears, and he could sell those weird-looking suits that he wears, and he could sell those ugly haircuts that he wears, and those nerdy glasses that he wears.

Speaker 35 But he could sell them all on the internet where nobody had to look at him.

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If anything, they would be a pimp that is friends with you, the pimp. It is a fellow pimp.
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Speaker 35 Did you watch any of the match between

Speaker 35 Dick the Boozer and poor old Roderick Strong?

Speaker 33 I did, thinking you would review it. It was a different kind of match just because now we're dealing with Marina Shafira's husband in there with Moxley.
So I was very curious how this would go.

Speaker 33 I thought, I don't know if physical is the right word.

Speaker 33 Moxley took more from Roderick Strong than I thought he would, but then it had just turned right back into everything else we hate with the Death Riders.

Speaker 35 Well, yeah, well, and that's Roddy's strengths are he's a physical guy, and he doesn't mind laying shit in or guys laying shit in with him.

Speaker 35 And he always prided himself on his physical conditioning, his cardio, you can't blow him up. He was perfect for the Ring of Honor product of

Speaker 35 in-ring of 2010, 11, 12-ish, whatever the fuck. And on,

Speaker 35 he's never been able to be a fireball promo. Let's just say that.
That's his biggest drawback. But,

Speaker 35 you know,

Speaker 35 he'll make you fight for shit in the ring and you can't wear him out, and he's not easy to physically intimidate. Plus,

Speaker 35 for good and bad, his wife is in Moxley's group. So,

Speaker 35 but the point is that now that everybody's smart, they booked Moxley to wrestle the husband of the woman that's been trailing him around for the last nine months.

Speaker 35 And then they beat the piss out of each other.

Speaker 35 But the position that Roddy's been put in in this company since the start,

Speaker 35 I would not have hooked him to go 15 fucking minutes.

Speaker 35 Again, whether it's a good match or not, now you're just talking about

Speaker 35 if you're going to use Moxley on top,

Speaker 35 Roderick Strong, who never beats anybody and has been used as a comedy figure, comes closer than most people to beating the shit out of you. You see where I'm going with this?

Speaker 35 I have to apply it to the people I don't like as well as the people I do.

Speaker 33 Yeah, Moxley took more from him than he does almost anyone, it seems like.

Speaker 35 Yeah.

Speaker 33 And then, of course, and then, of course, towards the end, they got in the ring and started trading blows like every fucking Moxley match.

Speaker 35 Well, yeah, of course, because that's what he does. And then Moxley choked him out after about 15 minutes.
So

Speaker 35 when the heel wins and just chokes a fucking babyface out, it's not like you get a lot of heat. And that's where they're indie-mindedness.

Speaker 35 They think it helped Roddy because he had a a great match with this guy.

Speaker 35 It doesn't help Roddy because the booking has to help Roddy. Having a great match against people and losing makes you a loser if you do it all the time, which is what he does.

Speaker 35 And it doesn't help Moxley because if a guy who loses all the time,

Speaker 35 if it takes Moxley 15 minutes to beat him and it's all he can do,

Speaker 35 then what the fuck does that say for Moxley? They're just, they can't fucking figure it out.

Speaker 33 it's a weird dynamic though just the idea that i watched a lot of it on mute so i don't know what the commentators are saying because i hate the commentators and they didn't get rid of shivani they just added shivani

Speaker 33 it's now just like a rotating group of these people well and poor i thought they might have

Speaker 35 given tony a little break because is that just me because i've known him for 40 years i don't sound as you know as squeaky as I used to when I was 25 or whatever.

Speaker 35 But Tony's voice sounds like it's weak, it's fading, it's something's happening. And I worry about him at his age.

Speaker 35 I thought they were giving him a little rest, but now he's in the ring

Speaker 35 doing the in-rings and all the various zabadaz and as you said, rotating,

Speaker 35 rotating around to the hot seat.

Speaker 33 Someone's got to blow Tony Khan.

Speaker 33 Metaphorically speaking, metaphorically speaking.

Speaker 35 Speaking of Tony Khan blowing something,

Speaker 35 did you see

Speaker 35 the

Speaker 35 or hear, I should say,

Speaker 35 the clip in the trailer when MJF burst into Tony Khan's trailer office

Speaker 35 and was reading him the riot act and ranting at him about he didn't want to have the thumbtack and barbed wire table hypodermic needle fucking match with Mark Briscoe?

Speaker 35 Or did you skip over that because you

Speaker 35 didn't understand why they had a static shot of a trailer door for a minute and a half?

Speaker 33 I saw it. I thought it was embarrassingly bad.
Tony Khan should not, even vocally, should not be

Speaker 33 doing anything because he couldn't pull it off. I didn't believe him.
And because of that, you don't believe anything the other guy's saying. So now it's just.

Speaker 33 Two friends smiling at each other while they record audio.

Speaker 35 Well, right at,

Speaker 35 they're having this just violent argument right after they were hugging at the wedding. But besides that, it was so blatantly scripted because it wasn't a real argument.
It was

Speaker 35 not in any way

Speaker 35 realistic.

Speaker 35 Not only the performance between the two individuals, but also

Speaker 35 why could we hear it? For the people who didn't see this, and I'm sure there are many,

Speaker 35 you see a camera shot of MJF in the back somewhere going into

Speaker 35 Tony Khan's big dressing trailer, which I guess they have for all of the stars.

Speaker 35 And he slams the door behind him, and it says Tony Khan on the sign on the door. But MJF is miced,

Speaker 35 or the room is mic'd, and you can hear clearly on tape, even though the camera is just shooting this fucking door for a minute and a half,

Speaker 35 you can hear clearly for television the argument that they're having. Who was Mike?

Speaker 35 If MJF was, because he didn't say to the cameraman, like,

Speaker 35 come on, let's go.

Speaker 35 There was just a shot of him storming in that a cameraman was catching.

Speaker 35 Why would he go in there and have an argument that he was going to lose and come out mad about

Speaker 35 while he's got a microphone on?

Speaker 33 Yeah, by the way, this is the same promoter that was afraid for his life when CM Punk was choking out Jack Perry.

Speaker 33 Not him. Here he is.
He's bowing up at MJF.

Speaker 35 Oh, yeah, he's telling MJF, you just calmed down there, son.

Speaker 35 But was that why Tony wasn't worried? Because he has a microphone to record everything in his trailer. So he's got evidence.

Speaker 33 I thought this was embarrassing. I really, really didn't like this.

Speaker 35 So speaking of embarrassing, well, go ahead.

Speaker 33 I just don't understand the point. I don't understand the philosophy behind doing stuff like this

Speaker 33 and then having it in the can long enough for someone to see it and go, this is not good. People are going to laugh at us.

Speaker 35 Well, but here's, there's another parallel here to real life events. Can anybody tell the boss that he's not any good if it was his idea? Can they tell him it was a stupid idea?

Speaker 35 How,

Speaker 35 Or they're just going to air it with no explanation. Oh,

Speaker 35 here's something happening in the back. We can hear every word.
Oh, golly.

Speaker 33 Yeah, no, I just saw some like stupid quote going around from Tony Schiavone. It was like, for everyone who says, you know, he can't book, why don't you try booking? Why don't you do it?

Speaker 35 I have.

Speaker 33 Just about every booker that's still alive thinks Tony's bad at it. And all the fans who think they're smart enough to be bookers think he's bad at it.

Speaker 33 But he doesn't pay us, to be fair. So maybe we would change our opinion if he was giving us that Shivani money.

Speaker 35 Oh, that big sweet Shivani check every week. I don't know.
All right. Anyway, let's move it, move along.
We got to get through the entire month of September.

Speaker 35 That's how long it seemed like this program lasted.

Speaker 35 Bobby Lashley versus Tia Leone.

Speaker 35 This kind of loosely fits the definition of clash of styles because they both have the same one, except Leoti's a little greener at it, but they're two giant guys that punched and kicked

Speaker 35 that

Speaker 35 don't take bumps, that shouldn't be taking bumps,

Speaker 35 that it's it's it was not a smooth

Speaker 35 exchange of ideas in the ring. And that's why both of these guys

Speaker 35 look best, work best, when it's somewhat of a different but complimentary style, but also different but complimentary physique. They don't have to be 160 pounds,

Speaker 35 but it's just, it's two bulls button heads, and

Speaker 35 one of the bulls is in no way, shape, or form over.

Speaker 35 So then it just kind of became blah.

Speaker 35 The people are chanting Lashley. Now that they're baby faces, why not?

Speaker 35 But the people are chanting Lashley.

Speaker 35 The hurt syndicate is still over.

Speaker 35 But now they're trying to

Speaker 35 manufacture opponents for them, build opponents for them, and there's nothing wrong with that. This is wrestling.
You're supposed to do that.

Speaker 35 But there's nobody

Speaker 35 competent or qualified or suitable for the fucking role.

Speaker 35 And they're trying with this guy.

Speaker 35 And it's just, this is too early for this guy.

Speaker 35 I mean, for forever. And that's a very long time.
Maybe too early, but we don't know. But right now, this and the way that they've presented them so far

Speaker 35 is the two stooges that never

Speaker 35 really do anything of the

Speaker 35 anything important of the whiny ass fucking little heel that

Speaker 35 doesn't matter.

Speaker 35 Have I mischaracterized this?

Speaker 33 No, I guess

Speaker 33 these are guys the Hurts Indicator are okay with working with. That's step one.

Speaker 33 The problem is Ricochet, for all of his faults,

Speaker 33 was a WWE star.

Speaker 33 And he still has a little bit of

Speaker 33 mojo that comes with that.

Speaker 33 These other guys aren't rookies. They're not new.
They've been around for a while.

Speaker 33 They've been on AEW for a while, never used right.

Speaker 33 It'd be one thing if they just showed up and were being booked like this. They've been on this show.
They were part of the not a stable. I mean, they've been around.

Speaker 33 I don't know if people are really getting into it. I'm not.

Speaker 33 But there's a lot of things on this show I'm not. It's not like this is unique.

Speaker 35 Well, the one thing they got into was after

Speaker 35 Lashley had speared him on the floor and got a big pop. And then MVP came over and just punched the shit out of Ricochet.
And the people started chanting, MVP, MVP.

Speaker 35 And then Benjamin super kicked old Bishop and

Speaker 35 they did a couple of false finishes and then they did the deal where Lashley got the hurt lock and

Speaker 35 Leone kicked off the buckle, but Bobby kept it and the referee called for the bells. So

Speaker 35 it wasn't really an exciting finish to save the non-exciting match. And then the hurt syndicate beat up the heels and the fans chanted for them.

Speaker 35 So they're having the six-man tag this weekend, right?

Speaker 35 One would think that Ricochet and company are then going to win the six-man tag because

Speaker 35 I don't know why they're having it now, to be honest with you, because they just beat up the Heels and Ricochet.

Speaker 35 And MVP beat him up too. So why are we having the match now this weekend?

Speaker 33 that's not recorded i can't answer that for you again

Speaker 33 we still don't understand why the mjf thing ended the way it did

Speaker 33 and then the and then the tag title run ended the way it did

Speaker 35 and now this i don't have any answers for you the the only reason i can think of to even that even the her the hurt syndicate wouldn't want to beat up the heels on free tv before they're they were beating the heels on pay-per-view

Speaker 35 unless they ain't beating the heels on pay-per-view

Speaker 35 but then if they beat the heels up on free tv before the pay-per-view nobody wants to see the pay-per-view

Speaker 35 so once again they've stuck themselves in a corner somewhere but who wrestled shelton last week was it ricochet because they beat shelton right yes

Speaker 35 It took everything Shelton knew not to fucking make it look completely phony that he wasn't just beating that little midget.

Speaker 35 Yeah,

Speaker 35 so whatever the odds are, I think put your money on Ricochet and the two stooges to win the six-man.

Speaker 35 I don't understand what's going on here.

Speaker 35 Oogie-dogie, Brian. It was time now they were in Ontario.
They weren't in Toronto yet, but it's still the same province. So you knew Edge and Christian had to be there.
They're going to be popular.

Speaker 35 They're hometown heroes coming back, making good home province heroes.

Speaker 35 What are they doing with the build of this match? Well, now they've almost sidelined poor Dax. We'll get to that in a minute.

Speaker 35 But I don't understand how if this is, again, the point you made the other day.

Speaker 35 And even more so, because this isn't a husband and his wife against a husband and his wife. Well, we don't know.
We're not trying to prime people's personal relationships.

Speaker 35 But if they're this pissed at each other, and they're the friends that betrayed Edge and stabbed him in the back, and he's reunited with his old friend who's still a prick and an asshole, whatever the fuck, do they have to stand there and talk to each other for 20 minutes?

Speaker 35 And

Speaker 35 then get in a fight instead of just,

Speaker 35 God damn it.

Speaker 35 And Tony Schiavone,

Speaker 35 What was that they used to call the hairstyle of fucking business in the front and party in the back?

Speaker 35 He had a jacket and tie on top and baggy pants and tennis shoes on the bottom. Did he not realize we were going to see his feet when he got in the ring?

Speaker 33 Or he's just given up.

Speaker 35 Or he's just given up. Or maybe...

Speaker 35 Maybe he hadn't been taking his medication. And, you know, we need to watch out to see if Tony Schiavone wanders off from the shoots these days.

Speaker 35 But there, this,

Speaker 35 the story to cover it, there was going to be heavy fines if there was a fight between these people.

Speaker 35 Stokely said it was going to be $100,000 apiece to touch either Dax or cash and $500,000 for him. Why?

Speaker 35 And the match would be canceled. Why? Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 33 Why? How? What?

Speaker 35 There's a motherfucker in the next segment of some of these shows trying to pour bleach down somebody's fucking throat or goddamn running them over with a vehicle, but we can't fight in the promo or we'll fine you 500 grand it just doesn't it's all

Speaker 35 bad indie ideas that if they've seen wrestling in the past and somehow don't understand the context and they don't understand how to in any way make it believable or plausible and because there's no quality control over this show and there's a goddamn major issue with attention deficit disorder

Speaker 35 they just do shit in every segment that just doesn't make sense from week to week, month to month, and year to year over other things they do in similar situations.

Speaker 35 Was that succinct enough for you?

Speaker 33 Very much.

Speaker 35 When Cash started his promo was 16 years ago, I met you for the first time. I knew this was going to go a while.

Speaker 35 But he had some oof, oomph, oof. He had some oomph.

Speaker 35 He got to his point. Dax started talking.

Speaker 35 And most of the promo was to the fans about how great they were instead of edge and Christian about how great they were. Did you notice that?

Speaker 33 Yep.

Speaker 35 I noticed that. He couldn't even disguise it that everything he'd come up with to say about how great they were to Edge and Christian was really his defense to the fucking fans.

Speaker 35 And here's another thing we did for you people.

Speaker 35 And he went to the point where he was looking at them as there there was Edge and Christian standing over there, and Dax was addressing the stands.

Speaker 35 So, well, at least he wasn't down in their face personally, where one of them might have fucking slapped him.

Speaker 35 Jesus.

Speaker 35 So then Edge snatched the mic away from Dax and actually picked up the energy. And

Speaker 35 I know you're not a fan, and I have not been a fan of some things of recent years, but he can cut a promo with some fucking energy at least.

Speaker 35 And he got the people with it because it sounded like he meant it and he had the right inflections and paused every once in a while in the right place and didn't fuck up punchlines or mispronounce words or whatever the rest of this fucking crew does on a regular basis.

Speaker 35 And then, of course, Christian takes the microphone and says, well, $100,000 $100,000 isn't anything to me because I'm rich.

Speaker 35 So he punched Dax in the face and apparently broke his fucking nose for real.

Speaker 35 Because they get in a big fight and security runs in and everybody gave security a bunch of their finishes. And Dax is out on the floor and his nose is just gushing blood.
And now it's.

Speaker 35 He's already made the announcement,

Speaker 35 I'm going to wrestle. I'm going to be in the match.
But he broke his nose at the first fucking punch.

Speaker 35 And these are the professionals, the experienced veterans. What the fuck is going on?

Speaker 33 Yeah, I wasn't sure, you know, I mean, it looked like what it looked like, but I was still like, let me see what exactly cut him.

Speaker 33 And he was standing there at the very end, and you just see the blood pouring out of his nose, like, oh, okay, it was a professional.

Speaker 35 Yeah, no, yeah, no, there was no, there was, I don't know if it was cut on the bridge or whatever, maybe, but the blood was coming out of his nose. He broke his nose.
And

Speaker 35 I managed Bobby Eaton for seven straight years. How many punches do you think Bobby Eaton threw working over 300 times a year? Oh, wow.
For seven years?

Speaker 35 Thousands.

Speaker 35 I don't know that he ever.

Speaker 35 I can't remember.

Speaker 35 It did not happen that he ever busted anybody open or swelled anybody up or gave anybody a fat lip.

Speaker 35 Not with a punch. Now, there's he bulldog Tommy Rogers on that table and fucked him up a little bit, but

Speaker 35 point being,

Speaker 35 what the fuck, you're

Speaker 35 you just fed every 20 minutes, you can throw one punch, you break the guy's nose.

Speaker 35 Well, we wish them all well in their endeavors on

Speaker 35 fuck tomorrow.

Speaker 35 I got a great couple of days coming up. I got to watch nine hours of wrestling, talk to you about it, and then go get teeth pulled.

Speaker 33 What a weird build. It still doesn't make sense.
I don't understand why they did the fan thing. When they came out with the security, I wasn't sure.

Speaker 33 Are they coming out with security from the fans or from

Speaker 33 Christian Sirius because of the thing they did last week? Or are they coming out for Christian and Edge? And they didn't seem too worried about Christian and Edge.

Speaker 33 They seem more concerned about the fans.

Speaker 35 Yeah.

Speaker 35 Well, and also, you know, besides the threat of the heavy fines, they had to send 12 indie wrestlers out there dressed in black security shirts so that they could take a bunch of bumps.

Speaker 35 I wish they'd get some of those real fucking

Speaker 35 either like rent-a-cops or back in the day, we had the Andy Frayne security ushers or whatever the fuck. Some pot-bellied fuck with a...

Speaker 35 mustache from lower Pittsburgh and it'd try to give him a fucking bump. But all these indie guys look the same, every single one of them.

Speaker 33 What do you think of that line, though? I'm rich and just doing it. Is that does that work? You think?

Speaker 35 Well, for the people who were already there, they wanted this ridiculous fine.

Speaker 35 Well, yes, that's the thing is for the people that were there that had already laughed at the idea that it was that much money.

Speaker 35 Well, at least he had a cute response to that horseshed, but $100,000, $500,000 for Stokely for fucking

Speaker 35 Even the smart fans who know that the guys make a lot of money don't believe that, much less the average person on a street is going, what the fuck?

Speaker 35 100 grand bullshit.

Speaker 35 I had to wash that down.

Speaker 35 Did you see who faced the Hardley boys in their contest?

Speaker 33 I did. Now I'm trying to remember who it was, but I did watch the match, of course.

Speaker 35 Well, of course. Well, good.
I didn't, but I saw who the opponent was, or one of them, both of them, Austin Gunn. Where's Colton? Oh, that's right.
Is he hurt?

Speaker 33 Yeah, I believe he got hurt.

Speaker 35 Okay, three, four years ago, I said, the guns,

Speaker 35 they're your tag team of the future. What a great bump and heel team.
Get him a couple of three years of experience.

Speaker 35 What the fuck has happened now?

Speaker 35 And

Speaker 35 his partner was Juice Robinson

Speaker 35 against Maddie and Nikki.

Speaker 35 Jesus Christ, Juice was hurt forever, came back and they had shorn him of his locks.

Speaker 35 But he's a and he's grown his beard back, thank God.

Speaker 35 But what the fuck? You can, this guy is different. He's a gimmick.
You can push him. He can work.

Speaker 35 He can talk. He's got a

Speaker 35 weird aura.

Speaker 35 And now he's become a job guy and a babyface job guy for the fucking Kookamonga kids. And where is Jay White?

Speaker 35 Not that I'm anxious to see him again because I didn't particularly like him. But he and Juice were a good heel tag team.
He's hurt.

Speaker 35 If Juice had done the talking and they had both worked, yeah, he's hurt too.

Speaker 33 That's why he's not there. He was like halting gun.

Speaker 35 So, right there, you have half of

Speaker 35 two of what could be

Speaker 35 main event-level heel tag teams in this company are now babyface job guys

Speaker 35 for a team that's never been deader.

Speaker 35 As in, they should both be in Kelsey's jockstrap

Speaker 35 and the hardley boys won

Speaker 35 i have no other thoughts on that match would you like to weigh in or should we continue on no i mean they're still doing the whole comedy thing this time they bribed uh the pyro guy to give them a full entrance well yeah cool because now they're rags to riches because they got a half million dollars in that bullshit fucking 12-man tag or whatever last week and they're giving it away to everybody to

Speaker 35 buy their credibility back.

Speaker 33 Yeah, it's that whole uh Duke Brothers thing where you get handed the money. You're like, We're back.

Speaker 33 What do you mean, you're back? You didn't get that much money.

Speaker 35 Well, speaking of

Speaker 35 stupid shit, all right.

Speaker 35 How about this? Just speaking of nothing in general, this is what the next match was: nothing in general.

Speaker 35 Poor old Rigger Mortis.

Speaker 35 Now, they're featuring him on every TV show because I guess he is

Speaker 35 entwined or intertwined or combined with Mercedes Moon, right? That's what we're hearing.

Speaker 33 I believe that they are a couple. I don't know who cares whose bags, but they are a couple.

Speaker 35 A couple of what. We don't know.

Speaker 35 But the problem is, they're featuring him on every TV, but they're beating him on every TV. Mascara Dorada.

Speaker 35 He was introduced at 167 pounds. Now, whether you like poor old Frank Mortis or not,

Speaker 35 Frank the lawyer to his friends,

Speaker 35 he's a big, fearsome-looking fuck.

Speaker 35 He's 200 and whatever pounds. They bring him out and have him do a job to this little teety tiny fellow who beat him clean, the 160-pound guy,

Speaker 35 because they've got a three-way coming up

Speaker 35 with, and

Speaker 35 here comes Don Fallus leading our friend Okada.

Speaker 35 He had to wake him up and get him off the couch to walk out here.

Speaker 35 They confront

Speaker 35 Mascara Dorada.

Speaker 35 And then suddenly Take Shit's music plays because Take is a member of Don's family also.

Speaker 35 But he comes out and stares at old Oblada.

Speaker 35 The two family members are staring at each other. Because here's another thing: Tony Khan loves it like when on the Indies, people stare at each other.

Speaker 35 And then

Speaker 35 Mascara dove off the top rope and

Speaker 35 take shit, sidestepped it, and he wiped out Okada with the crossbody.

Speaker 35 And then he got up and pointed a finger at Take, and they stared at each other while

Speaker 35 Oblada considered himself lucky and just laid there like he usually does.

Speaker 35 What the fuck?

Speaker 35 It's everything, every match has to lead in the same shit as

Speaker 35 interaction of some kind with whoever has a match the next day.

Speaker 35 And there's only so many ways you can do it, and so many times you can do it, and they've exhausted both. Out of Brian, again,

Speaker 35 was this pretty goddamn flat?

Speaker 33 Yeah, the fans weren't as up for this as they had been for previous things on the show.

Speaker 33 This is the kind of thing that Tony Khan likes. This is the kind of thing that Tony Khan's going to put on the show.
And

Speaker 33 I don't know if it works.

Speaker 35 Did you enjoy Tony Storm's

Speaker 35 moment in the spotlight? More like Searchlight.

Speaker 35 At this point, somebody ought to be looking for her that's escaped from a home.

Speaker 35 It's

Speaker 35 Tony Storm doing her promos. Yet, there is a talent to this, and it's funny,

Speaker 35 but it's like a Shakespearean reading of a dirty limerick.

Speaker 35 And it just,

Speaker 35 the whore you all adore, the skank you want to spank.

Speaker 35 I think the people,

Speaker 35 they like to listen and laugh at it.

Speaker 35 Does it sell tickets? Does it

Speaker 35 is it so preposterous that it you just you just want to see her come out and talk is there any reason to have matches

Speaker 35 does this help the matches all these questions i'm asking

Speaker 33 you know i'm not a fan of the gimmick on wrestling but she's very talented the fans there love her she is the biggest female star in aew

Speaker 33 In a way, I kind of thought this worked just because if they're going to be in a world world where she does all this stuff and it's in black and white and all that shit, these other two girls coming out to interrupt in the middle of it, it's kind of the only way to do it, I guess.

Speaker 35 Well, but

Speaker 35 again, the spotlight is on her and suddenly Jamie Hayter appears in the spotlight, dressed like Ronald McDonald's sister,

Speaker 35 and she recites lines to Tony.

Speaker 35 And then Chris Statlander appears in the spotlight on the other side, and she recites some lines to them.

Speaker 35 And then Tony says, well, trim your bushes, bitches. We're going all out.

Speaker 35 And then Thecla's music plays and she comes running out with referees and basically

Speaker 35 chases all the other three off.

Speaker 35 And because it was time for Thecla's match and

Speaker 35 they were done. So it looked like Thecla chased Tony Storm.
Statlander and Jamie Hayter off. But nevertheless, that's what I'm saying is Tony Storm?

Speaker 35 The fans that like AEW, they like silly, funny wrestling. They don't want to take shit seriously.

Speaker 35 They can see through all this anyway, and they don't care. So would it be easier just to have her come out and do the interviews? Do we have to have the matches?

Speaker 35 Do the matches matter? They just want to laugh at her. promos, don't they?

Speaker 33 They want to play along. They want to play along with the world that she lives in.

Speaker 33 You know, kind of like an Orange Cassidy or a Grizzly Redwood or, you know, any other thing that indie fans find cute and they get into.

Speaker 33 And then people who aren't indie fans see it and go, What is this? Explain this to me. Now, Tony Storm may be the best of them all,

Speaker 33 but

Speaker 33 it is what it is.

Speaker 35 Well, we're on the downhill slide now, folks. Don't worry.

Speaker 35 Next up was the no-holds-bard match with Thecla versus Queen Wayotta, who came out carrying a garbage can, which was very symbolic for this television program.

Speaker 35 Almost 10 o'clock, and that's what we need: a girls' garbage match.

Speaker 35 And of course, they started on the floor, they pulled out the chairs, and I skipped ahead to when it was over.

Speaker 35 And Thecla, to the surprise of no one, won the match. But then

Speaker 35 she got on the microphone and was screaming at Tony Storm.

Speaker 35 And Tony Storm hit the ring and double-legged her and got on top of her. And Tony Storm punched her own left hand with her own right hand over and over.

Speaker 35 It's like they don't even pretend.

Speaker 35 They don't think that there's a television camera there. They think, well, the people in the cheap seats won't be able to tell.

Speaker 35 The fucking camera.

Speaker 35 Then here came Jamie Hayter and Statlander, and they fought. And Julia Hart came out and blue sky and

Speaker 35 Wheeler Yuda and Marina Schaefer came out and did nothing and then turned around and left. I was just wondering if they thought that it was

Speaker 35 their brawl when it was scheduled to be the next brawl. That was just completely useless.

Speaker 35 And then

Speaker 35 Statlander walked out and Thecla and the two heels with her beat up Tony Storm. But Storm made her own comeback, and the heels bailed out.

Speaker 35 But Jamie Hayter came from behind Tony Storm and drew back and was going to punch her. But Tony Storm saw her,

Speaker 35 so she stopped and they yelled and cussed at each other.

Speaker 35 What a fucking mess.

Speaker 33 That AEW Women's Division.

Speaker 35 I just have to loosen my headphones just a bit. My head hurts.

Speaker 35 Moving along,

Speaker 35 Pip Sabian and Dino Douche wrestled Hong Kong Fuy and Kevin Knight, who are announced at a total weight of 380 pounds. I think that's if

Speaker 35 Spitball's got rocks in his pockets.

Speaker 35 And they did the thing where Pip Sabian, for some reason, is still berating Dino and slapping him around. We don't know what the reason is.
It's just inexplicable.

Speaker 35 And so finally, Dino

Speaker 35 short-armed the tag, dropped off the apron, and Fuye beat Pip with a Fooey kick. You know that spinning Fooey kick he does?

Speaker 35 Yeah.

Speaker 35 Did you like

Speaker 35 Darby Allen defending himself and why he had to climb the mountain when he had to sit down with Brian Danielson there?

Speaker 33 No, and this is right around the point in time in the show where I kind of went exclusively to to mute

Speaker 33 because there were other things happening in the world and on other monitors here. But I saw this, and you know, again, it's

Speaker 33 AEW has a very unique way of getting their personalities and characters over to the fans that are already there.

Speaker 35 Well,

Speaker 35 after they talked about Darby climbing the mountain,

Speaker 35 he said he didn't know if he was ready for Moxley. It's always good to have a babyface that's really sure of himself.

Speaker 35 But there's something going on here because he told Danielson,

Speaker 35 don't interfere. You know, Darby's worried that Danielson will get hurt.
Don't help me out. I don't want you to get hurt.

Speaker 35 So basically, the baby face is saying, not only do I not know that I can beat this baby face or this heel or not, but I'm hoping that my friend won't help me because he might get hurt too.

Speaker 35 And then Danielson promised, but then he he said, You got to promise me you're going to do something or you'll do something for me. And he whispered something in Darby's ear.

Speaker 35 And Darby said he promised too. So,

Speaker 35 boy, howdy.

Speaker 35 And then finally, we had a Mercedes Monet join the announced team after doing a little stripper dance. And we saw Riho

Speaker 35 face Robin Renegade. And I wrote, this is not in any way serious and worth of my time.

Speaker 35 And then

Speaker 35 the main event was Josh Alexander and

Speaker 35 against Top Flight, Dante, and Darius. They were back.

Speaker 35 And this went past the three hours.

Speaker 35 And they did an overrun on their three-hour show. And the Heels won, of course.
And then, Brian,

Speaker 35 see if you can keep track of this.

Speaker 33 Oh, the big mess of everyone just, yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 35 Yeah,

Speaker 35 soon as the heels won,

Speaker 35 then Lance Archer and Rocky Romero ran in and glommed the baby faces and surrounded Chris Daniels and was going to menace him.

Speaker 35 But here came Scorpio Sky and Hong Kong Fui and Kevin Knight, and they hit the ring and had a big sloppy fight with everybody,

Speaker 35 except then the Hardley boys ran out, and nobody cared, by the way, not a single reaction.

Speaker 35 And to counteract them, here came Brody King and Bandito. So Bandito could dive on everybody.

Speaker 35 And everybody except Rocky and Archer and Chris Daniels

Speaker 35 got in a sloppy fight and fought to the back. But in the ring,

Speaker 35 Archer and Rocky then started to beat up Chris Daniels. but then hang ma'am, Adam Page's music played where he came out to save Daniels and cleared the ring out.

Speaker 35 But Kyle Felcher came out and beat up Paige while Rocky and Archer got a table, which they set up at ringside, so that Kyle tried to brainbuster Paige.

Speaker 35 through the table, but Paige made a comeback on Kyle, nailed Rocky, nailed Archer, went to buckshot Kyle, but Kyle grabbed the belt and hit Paige in the head with the belt

Speaker 35 and then gave him a brain buster off the apron through the table.

Speaker 35 Because hitting him in the head with a belt, knocking him goofy wasn't enough.

Speaker 35 So now,

Speaker 35 so the idea that they left the show with, I can't believe I said it.

Speaker 35 is that when he defends the world title four days from now,

Speaker 35 after having been given a brain buster off the apron through a table to the floor, he might be compromised?

Speaker 33 Yeah, it was an interesting end. I mean, a very Tony Khan ending to the show in a lot of ways, just everyone running out there and brawling, and they probably think it's brilliant.

Speaker 33 It reminded me, we didn't even discuss, I don't think, earlier in the Moxley match, the spot where Roddy Strong tripped himself because we were you, it was too late to get to the ring to

Speaker 33 grab his leg by a second, second, but enough people noticed it that I was like, okay, I'm not crazy.

Speaker 33 But it's a unique build, you know, just when I thought WWE had a unique build to their pay-per-view, here's AEW.

Speaker 33 Having a pay-per-view that makes you question why.

Speaker 33 It doesn't really feel like a pay-per-view-worthy card, even for them. The build to the Adam Page match is non-existent

Speaker 33 and nonsensical.

Speaker 33 Edge and Christian versus FTR,

Speaker 33 again, the match should be good. The build has been atrocious.

Speaker 33 You know, as time has gone by, the thing you pointed out, the idea they got back together for that match with Kip Sabian and Kill Switch or whatever it was.

Speaker 35 Yeah, they gave it away the month before Toronto.

Speaker 33 All they had to do was wait until now. I don't think it would have hurt the previous show.

Speaker 33 So, yeah,

Speaker 33 I'm of the belief that AEW right now is just lost at sea

Speaker 33 and the captain is alive and well. And they're just going to stay lost at sea for the foreseeable future or until they can't get a new rights deal.

Speaker 35 I'm your captain, I'm your captain, and I'm feeling mighty sick.

Speaker 35 Well, that was a well, that was the September to remember of the dynamite and the collision and the pudding pops and everything.

Speaker 35 And before we talk about who might or might not have watched this production, Brian, is there any good news from the world of the Arcadian Vanguard Network this fine week?

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Speaker 35 It's so lifelike. All righty.

Speaker 35 Did moving out of a...

Speaker 35 former bingo hall in Philadelphia into somewhat of a regular arena and promoting this big three-hour extravaganza, knock them back over the top of 600,000 people this week.

Speaker 33 Well, we have the ratings, and again, it's a special three-hour block of Dynamite and Collision. Wednesday, September 17th, 2025 on TBS, 8 to 1001.
AEW Dynamite

Speaker 33 was watched on average by 667,000 viewers.

Speaker 35 Oh, they made it.

Speaker 33 AEW Collision right after it, 1001 to 1106,

Speaker 33 535,000 viewers.

Speaker 35 Boy, I'll tell you what,

Speaker 35 that surprises me that they were able to keep that many people to hold on for that long through that show.

Speaker 35 So I'm not surprised they got over 600 for dynamite, but over 500 for 10 to 11 after they'd already seen two hours of. misery.

Speaker 33 And again, I thought it was a bad show. So if you were tuning in for the first time in weeks and this this is what you saw, I wonder what you think.
But let's go to the quarter hours.

Speaker 33 These were compiled by WrestleNomics.

Speaker 33 Quarter one, 8 to 8.15 p.m.

Speaker 33 Adam Page and Kyle Fletcher's live promo. And the Jon Moxley Darby Allen video,

Speaker 35 And that is what? Well over 100,000 up from their previous start last week. And

Speaker 35 they haven't started with 700-something thousand for

Speaker 35 a number of weeks, have they?

Speaker 33 It's been a while. It's been in the 600s, I think, recently.

Speaker 35 So they got to jump on the competition.

Speaker 33 Quarter two, 8.15, 8:30 p.m.

Speaker 33 Roderick Strong versus Jon Moxley with picture-in-picture,

Speaker 35 Okay, and they're back to the pattern of they start with a bigger number and they lose more between the first and second quarter. So

Speaker 35 there went 50,

Speaker 35 what is it, 46,

Speaker 35 59,000 people?

Speaker 33 We go to quarter three, 8.30, 8.45 p.m., the continuation of Strong versus Moxley, the MJF Mark Briscoe video

Speaker 33 and an ad break. And Bobby Lashley versus Toa Leona with Picture and Picture,

Speaker 35 Okay, well, that's only 14,000. I guess that's not bad, but

Speaker 35 they got to stabilize this to really make their average now, don't they?

Speaker 33 And by the way, MJF Mark Briscoe video, that's also the segment, I believe, where MJF and Tony Kahn had their audio conversations.

Speaker 35 Yes, they had a little hype video for the match and then

Speaker 35 that thing that they did.

Speaker 33 Well, we go to quarter four, 8:45 to 9 p.m. That thing they do bobby lashley versus toa leoneia continued the post-match with mvp shelton benjamin ricochet and bishop kahn

Speaker 33 an ad break and the christian cage and cope and ftr entrances

Speaker 33 663 000 viewers

Speaker 35 Okay, well, they've slowed the descent. They lost the majority of what they've lost in the first 15 minutes, and then they've only lost another 24,000.

Speaker 33 Well, Jim, it's time for the big nine o'clock hour, quarter five, nine to nine, 15 p.m.

Speaker 33 The continuation, or I guess the actual segment with Cope and Christian, FTR, and Stokely,

Speaker 33 the Young Bucks backstage promo, and the Bucks versus Austin Gunn and Juice Robinson,

Speaker 33 697. thousand viewers.

Speaker 35 Aha, so they picked up 34,000 at the top of the hour, but unfortunately,

Speaker 35 the top of the hour contained the Koo Kamunga kids. So did they do what they do every time and kill the quarter hour after them?

Speaker 33 We go now to the quarter hour after they started that segment, 9.15 and 9.30 p.m. Quarter six.

Speaker 33 The continuation of the Bucks versus Gun and Robinson with picture on picture. An ad break.

Speaker 33 The Willow Nightingale, Harley Cameron, Mina Shirakawa, Queen Aminada,

Speaker 33 Triangle of Madness backstage promo.

Speaker 35 Ouch.

Speaker 35 So they lost 64,000 and they've gone to the all-time show low.

Speaker 35 Thank you, Cookamonga Kids.

Speaker 33 Well, Jim, we go to quarter seven. 9:30 to 9.45 p.m.

Speaker 33 The Beast Mortos versus Mascara Dorado with picture and picture, and the post-match with Okada, Don Callis, and Takeshta, followed by an ad break,

Speaker 35 Boy,

Speaker 35 they've got a gift then. That do you think the thread hanging through the show that Kyle was going to hospitalize Paige kept the people through something like that?

Speaker 33 But why

Speaker 33 Yeah, I don't think it was that.

Speaker 35 Why would you want to wait all night to see the heel put to babyface in the hospital?

Speaker 33 But again, I thought Kyle was the babyface in that segment. It was a condescending heel being a prick for no reason.

Speaker 33 Jim, we go to quarter eight. I remind you, we have a one-hour, six-minute overrun.
We go to quarter eight, 9:45 to 10 p.m.

Speaker 33 Tony Storm, Jamie Hayter, and Chris Statlander's ramp promo, and the start of Tecla versus Queen Amanada in a street fight,

Speaker 35 Holy shit, that's a gift.

Speaker 35 That's the strongest that they have ever done at the end of the show.

Speaker 35 They're only down 122,000 people and they actually picked up from quarter seven, which never happens.

Speaker 33 Well, Jim, we go now to technically quarter one of Collision, 10 to 10.15 p.m.

Speaker 33 The continuation of Tecla vs. Amanata, and the post-match with the Triangle of Madness, Tony Storm and Chris Statlander, and the Death Riders and Jamie Hayter.

Speaker 33 Yep, that's it.

Speaker 33 Then the Sky Flight, Adam Page backstage angle,

Speaker 33 and then Kill Switch and Kip Sabian versus Jetspeed with Picture and Picture.

Speaker 35 Good God.

Speaker 35 Again, this Drek, they're keeping a consistent number. They've gone 633, 618, 624, 620.

Speaker 35 And as bad as I always want to point out when this show sucks,

Speaker 35 they've never

Speaker 35 kept

Speaker 35 they've never kept a level number like that this late in a program for even shit that was better

Speaker 35 and they and they've they've even shit that was worse. This is very surprising.

Speaker 33 Well, we go to quarter two of collision 10:15 to 10:30 p.m.

Speaker 33 Kill Switch and Kip Sabian versus Jet Speed continued, the Big Bill backstage promo, an ad break, and the Darby Allen conversation with Brian Danielson,

Speaker 35 Now, reality may be starting to set in that it's getting late and this just goes on forever.

Speaker 33 Quarter three of Rampage, 10:30 to 10:45 p.m.

Speaker 33 Riho versus Robin Renegade with picture and paint.

Speaker 33 Okay, the post-match with Mercedes Monet,

Speaker 33 a recap, an ad break, the Death Riders ops video, and the Don Callis rant promo,

Speaker 35 Yeah,

Speaker 35 there's a limit to anybody's patience. So here we go.

Speaker 33 Well, we go now to quarter four of collision. I remind you, we have a six-minute overrun.

Speaker 35 I can't believe they stayed above 500,000.

Speaker 33 10:45 to 11 p.m., top flight versus Hetchichero and Josh Alexander with Picture in Picture,

Speaker 33 Six-minute overrun, including the wild post-match with the Don Callis family, Scorpio Sky,

Speaker 33 Jetspeed, the Young Bucks, and Bro Dito,

Speaker 35 Good lord. Okay, and they ended up doing the thing they had promised at the start of the three-hour block.

Speaker 35 By putting Adam Page, well, if not the hospital, laid him out. He couldn't walk out under his own power.

Speaker 35 But by that point, 306,000 of the people that saw the setup segment were not there to see the result of it.

Speaker 33 That's a great building.

Speaker 35 Even when they get a gift and they get

Speaker 35 their regular two-hour block would have gone from $746,000 to $624,000. That ain't bad for them.
But they had to hang on way too long, like usual, and go from 624 to 440.

Speaker 33 Well, that was AEW Dynamite, a special September to remember, the lead up to the big pay-per-view this weekend as we are recording. And we'll see what happens next week on this

Speaker 33 always rewarding show.

Speaker 35 Well, and actually, we have to go ahead and sign off now, Brian, because we have to eat a meal before we get up tomorrow and start watching hours and hours and hours of wrestling.

Speaker 35 So I guess we ought to just turntail and run right now, shouldn't we?

Speaker 33 I guess so. We will be back in a few days on the drive-thru.
A special,

Speaker 33 they're all just promoting shows on the same day, episode of the drive-thru. In a few days, we'll try to get your questions in as well.
Some classic wrestling.

Speaker 33 Jim and I just talked about a few classic wrestling topics off air that I think will be spectacular. coming soon.
So stay tuned.

Speaker 35 It might make me feel better if we do some next week on the program when I'm recovering from my dental surgery. That might brighten my day.

Speaker 35 Anyway, until then, so we can have a sandwich and get started watching all the action. The action is done for now.
Thank you. Fuck you.
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