#1068: August 10, 2025

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Hello, Alex.

I'm a fifth ten caller.

I'm a huge fan.

I love your room.

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Hey, everybody.

Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.

I'm Dan.

I'm Jordan.

We're a couple dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Celine, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.

Oh, indeed we are, Dan.

Jordan.

Dan.

Jordan.

Quick question for you.

What's up?

What's your bright spot today, buddy?

Why don't you go first?

My bright spot is Alien Earth.

It's a new TV show.

Okay, in the Alien franchise?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

And we watched the first couple episodes.

It's fucking great.

Does it take place on Earth?

Yes.

Okay.

I think so.

Are there aliens there?

Yes, there are.

Facebook.

But they're from the future.

Okay.

But also, the future is the 80s because we're in the alien universe.

Okay.

But also, it's the future, but everything's like

kind of computers.

Can the aliens time travel?

No, not yet.

Okay.

But perhaps once they meet the Predator, because I'm pretty sure the Predator's time travel.

So Alien vs.

Predator has to be a time travel movie.

Sure.

Yeah.

But it's already happened.

Alien versus Predator has already happened.

That is a good point.

This is dangerous.

We'd have to time travel to go see that in theaters.

I think we can do multiverse.

Okay.

Yeah.

That's what we'll do.

What's going on?

It's really good.

It was done by the guy who made Legion and Fargo,

both of which were fucking really, really good and really interesting.

It's hard to make a horror TV show.

True.

Because, you know, you're going to see the, you know, you're going to see these people next week.

But man, that alien's so fucking scary that even if you know people are gonna be alive when that little thing comes out and just

That's the magic of the game.

It's solid.

Yeah, yeah, it's good stuff.

That's an interesting path that this person's carved out because like Alien seems like a TV show that like it's a movie that's really good.

Yeah, and people would be mad at a bad TV show.

Fargo.

Exactly.

A movie that's really good.

That's the only reason it was almost like there's only one guy that we can reliably choose to make this show in a way that won't make everybody go, this fucking sucks.

And it's the guy who's done that exact same thing multiple times.

All right.

It's just a weird skill this guy has.

I've never seen anybody do it before.

All right, let's get to Jurassic Park TV show.

Right?

Let's get some good stuff.

This guy can finally make, it's like he makes worlds inside.

It's like a diorama inside somebody else's world.

It's really interesting.

Nice.

Maybe I'll check it out.

Yeah, I would suggest it.

Sweet.

What's your bright spot?

I've been dipping back into Legend of Zelda,

High Rule Warriors, Age of Calamity.

All right.

The sort of Dynasty Warrior Zelda

Breath of the Wild.

Yeah, the whole thing.

It's fun.

It's just a great art style, and these characters are fun.

It's cute.

Do you get to play as any of them that you want?

A lot of them.

Yeah.

You get to play as like Impa and

Zelda and Link.

What kind of weapons are we dealing with?

Who's our long-range fighter?

That would be like Ravali, the bird guy.

Okay, the bird guy.

He's got a bow.

He's got a bow.

Yeah.

All right.

All right.

Link's got a sword.

He's got a spear.

Yeah, I guess, you know, you could say that

the fish lady.

I've played so much of these games that I can't remember any of the names of the.

What's the fish lady's deal?

Who are those fish people?

You know, the fish people.

I always just think, hey, they got the fish.

They're fish people.

They're water folk.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

She has like a trident.

So that's kind of range.

Yeah, that's fun.

Anyway,

I played it when it came out, and then I stopped.

And I'm glad that I stopped because it's now pretty fun.

Yeah.

Those are such great, like, scratch and itch games.

Somehow, there's just an itch, and then that game just hits it right.

And you're like, oh, I'm satisfied.

I don't know why.

Yeah, I'm enjoying it.

Yep.

So, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over.

All right.

We're going to be talking about August 10th, 2025.

Okay.

11th, the 11th of August, that's the day that Trump unleashed the federal troops upon D.C.

Right.

Everything's going great.

Yeah.

And so we're going to check in and see how Alex is dealing with the anticipation of that.

And as that unfolds,

we'll see how Mr.

Police State responds.

Yeah, I mean, becoming everything that one has said they were against piece by piece over time is kind of fascinating to watch.

Yes.

And in this episode in particular, it's such great timing because one of the funniest things I've ever seen happens.

And

it revitalized me in a way that I can't even describe.

So I'm excited to get to that.

But first, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wonks.

Ooh, that's a great idea.

So first, Drew, you're an amazing person, even though you refused to listen to the best podcast.

Signed, Scuttle.

Thank you so much.

You're now a policy wonk.

I'm a policy wonk.

Thank you very much.

Or that could be Scuddy.

Next, Lehman, Project Butter Pecan was created by the ice cream elites to keep people like us creamy and compliant.

We must resist.

Thank you so much.

You're now a policy wonk.

I'm a policy wonk.

Thank you very much.

Thank you.

And sort me out, geezer, to Cobb, Love, Dumpling, and Gray Gray.

Thank you so much.

You're now a policywonk.

I'm a policy wonk.

Thank you very much.

Thank you.

And we got a technocrat in the mix, Jordan.

So thank you so much to Rhys Rehannan Larski.

There's a war on for your mind, and you've just been drafted into the InfoWar.

You are the truest of titty babies, but not for long.

Thank you so much.

You're now a technocrat.

I'm a policy wonk.

Four stars.

Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.

Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.

Daddy Sharp.

Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.

He's a loser, little, little kitty baby.

I don't want to hate black people.

I renounce Jesus Christ.

Thank you so much.

Yes, thank you very much.

Just to let everybody know,

we've been doing shout-outs for a long time.

Sure.

We're very grateful to everybody.

I'm looking at it, and we've been ahead for, or you know, we've been behind a month for a long time, and we're catching up.

So I was just thinking, if you want to send a joke shout-out or something like that, you don't have to donate, but it would just be weird to go without shout-out.

If anybody wants a shout-out, send an email to knowledgefight at gmail.com.

Yeah, it's been like 800 episodes since we've done this.

It'd be interesting, too.

But yeah, send an email to knowledgefight at gmail.com.

Sure.

Yep.

And you try and trip me up with a little tongue twister.

Yeah.

See what you're trying to do it.

Send some Gaelic words.

Yeah, absolutely.

Siobhan's, get your engines going.

And so Jordan can see me panic.

So

we have a little jump from our last episode to here.

And, you know, last we left off, Alex was, you know, he had his struggle with the Trump response to the Epstein debacle.

He was letting Nazi take the high ground.

Sure.

Sure.

Quite a bit.

It was quite an embarrassing showing.

And

he was a bit turned off on Trump a little bit.

Sure.

There was a fair amount of, I'm going to call it like I see it.

Sure.

Maybe he's getting a 90 out of 100.

I'm going to call it like I see it.

This man's waffling.

He's a waffler.

So waffles.

So where do you think he is now on a one to hundred?

I'm going to go with a 99.8.

You're in the right direction.

Okay.

I have seen a lot of really good actions against the globalists in the last week by Trump.

Six months ago, I would give him a 98.

A month ago, I would give him about a 95.

He's already dollar back up about a 97.

Ooh, I'm so close.

And anybody that isn't looking at all the positive stuff Trump's doing and is just bitching and whining and complaining is not paying attention.

Doesn't mean we don't get on Trump's ass and people in this administration when they go the wrong direction.

No, we put him in there.

He works for us.

They got national news constantly cherry-picking when I criticize this or that.

Jones has deserted Trump.

Jones has abandoned ship.

Bullcrap.

Bullcrap.

Bullcrap.

There is no difference between a 98 and a 95.

I mean, I can't even understand why you would bother.

I don't know if there was that much media attention to the idea that Alex turned on Trump.

To the extent that anyone cared, it was really just people laughing at the situation that he found himself in.

The entire time that Trump has been a relevant national-level politician has been post-Pizzagate, and his political movement runs on the satanic panic that arose out of that.

Watching the Trump propagandists scramble to figure out if they could afford to keep their connection with their power avatar has been funny, and that's what any media outlet would have been covering.

Look at these guys squirming.

I mean, it's hard not to look at it like that.

And here's the God's honest truth: the only story here is that Alex didn't abandon Trump.

The fact is it's so revealing

to what's actually important to him, and it's not fighting corruption.

That is clear.

His number one brand is invalidated.

This is hard to articulate precisely, but there's a certain appeal that Infowars has that's built on not making excuses for politicians.

It's why Alex repeats, I'm not a lesser of two evils guy all the time, because this shows political identity is fundamentally opposed to that kind of thinking.

It's baked into the idea of like transcending the left-right paradigm, and it's central to why Alex backed Ron Paul in 2008 and 2012 instead of choosing a viable Republican candidate.

If you believe that you're fighting the devil and all your enemies have demons inside them, then you can't break out pros and cons lists to determine your allegiances.

If Trump's working with and aiding the devil on this giant thing and demanding you not question it, then it doesn't matter how many godly acts he might be doing on the side.

He's working with the devil.

And that's what you're asking the audience to accept.

This is not sustainable in the long term, but it's not surprising that this is where Alex is.

No, no.

It's funny.

It's very funny because, and even the tone that he's using, I remember this tone very well.

I remember this tone very well because, and I think a lot of people will too.

Anybody who's still talking about Bernie is just getting in the way of Hillary winning this election, you know?

And it's like, man, for the longest time, that was the bonus of being somebody who wants to get away from the political system but is on the far right.

You're not going to hear that.

You can just scream like a lunatic and people will eventually do what you say.

But now, finally,

you guys have to deal with Hillary.

That's what you're doing.

Trump is your Hillary.

Alex has turned himself into a blue no matter who kind of guy.

100%.

But he wants to still think that he's.

I'm on the Vanguard.

I'm a big strong boy, but blue no matter who.

But the blue is Trump.

Exactly.

Yeah.

Hillary and Trump are the same person now.

Trump no matter what.

Oh, my God.

So the Russian folks,

they got a summit coming up with Trump.

I think it's going to go great.

Yeah, in Alaska, they're going to meet up,

and maybe there will be some false flags.

And the Russian foreign ministry, Labarov, has come out and said there will be titanic efforts to prevent peace with Ukraine.

And they go into what those efforts will be, false flag attacks.

And again, you heard that from me first.

I don't follow the Russian talking points.

They just always, days or weeks after I say something, say the exact same thing because they see the same thing going on.

And quite frankly, listen to me.

But they're not the only government that does.

That's just a fact.

That's the level we're at by the grace of God.

So this, I think, is a good illustration of what Alex can't let go of.

Appearing close to Trump and seeming like he's connected to that power is just one expression of Alex's addiction to playing this role of the most important person in the world.

Multiple governments take their cues from him.

So if you really think about it, Alex Jones dictates foreign policy.

His rants, they move armies.

They change history.

Absolutely.

There's a grandiosity to this position that he's put himself in for the show.

And to reel it in at all would reveal, it would threaten to reveal how thin it is and how fake it all is.

Sergei Lavrov didn't say what Alex is claiming in that clip.

This was actually something that a Russian investment envoy named Kirill Dmitriev posted on Telegram.

He didn't say that false flags were going to be done to stop the Trump Putin summit, but that there was disinformation being pushed to try to derail it.

Sure.

Dmitriev is the head of the Russian Direct Investment Fund, which is a $10 billion sovereign wealth entity created by the Russian government.

More concerning for Alex is that he used to work for Goldman Sachs and was a World Economic Forum young global leader.

Sure.

It's probably best to just pretend Lavrov said false flags are coming.

Let's not unpack this too much.

Let's move on from that.

Yeah.

Lavrov appeared at a thing with Alex

remotely.

Here's what I like about an Alaskan peace conference or whatever, right?

If something happens.

What?

In Alaska?

That's crazy.

But why would anything happen?

Because it's Alaska.

That would be crazy.

Yeah.

Right?

All bets are off.

It's genius.

It's the best place.

It's the most obvious place to do something movie-like crazy.

And that's why no one would ever do it.

If one of them didn't make it out,

you would be like, well, the wild's gone.

Exactly.

Exactly.

It would be the wild.

The cold, untamed frontier.

What it needs to be is identical to John Cena and Idris Elba in that world leaders movie, except it's Trump and Putin trying to survive in the Alaskan wilderness.

Yeah.

I think they would crush it.

The only way to know is to give them a shot.

Yeah, I think they have slightly less charisma than Cena and Elba.

Maybe a little bit.

Yeah, so Alex is

thrilled about this summit.

Of course.

That's great.

Yeah.

He's thrilled about some other things

that are going on.

Probably racist-based.

Yeah.

I think you might be able to make an argument.

There's talk of Trump sending the military in to Mexico

to take out all the cartels.

Can they do that?

I feel like they can't do that for a lot of reasons.

For so many reasons.

I will say that the Mexican president is opposed.

Shouldn't that have something to do with why they can't do that?

Yeah, because it would be a military invasion.

It would be invading a country.

Yeah.

Alex is into this.

Of course.

Oh, Mexico says that the United States has announced that it's going to invade it.

No.

NATO

has invaded Russia.

Mexico and China have invaded the United States.

What?

When Trump stood up with these tariff steals, he wasn't attacking people.

He was retaliating to the attack.

Mexico is run by the narco-terrorist states,

Venezuela, other countries.

It's run by the cartels on record.

And Trump's given them seven months to stop the activities and shut down the cartels, and they haven't.

So Trump is saying, I'm getting ready to have the U.S.

military, as he did four or five months ago, designate them terrorists, take action against the cartels that are more well equipped than even the Mexican military.

So,

translation, Trump has declared war on the cartels

and he warned them all, and now they haven't taken action.

And so now Trump is getting ready to go after them.

And I'm not for invading Iraq or Syria.

or Russia.

And I've been against all these past wars because it was globalist run, globalist started, and not in our interest.

I 100%

support President Trump

if he decides to engage in military strikes against drug cartels inside Mexico.

This is the anti-war guy.

There is, okay.

Now, I think I understand why people would think he's the anti-war guy, but you got to understand, he's also from Texas, and that means he thinks most of Mexico should be theirs.

True.

Yeah.

True.

Like, they just took it one time.

Why can't they take it again?

It's kind of their belief system.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And as I was going through this,

you know, listening to him, I started to realize that, like,

his war philosophy is just like, no, no, too far away.

Yeah, no, 100%.

100%.

Too far away for now.

He's for wars that are close.

Absolutely.

Because

I can have that.

Now I can have that.

Right.

If we can't have Iraq, Iraq isn't going to become the 51st state.

How are we going to get a highway there?

Well, he considers himself like Confederate royalty and his family founded Texas and they did that by stealing it.

Stealing Texas.

I mean, one could say they took a giant chunk of land from people who were on it.

Yeah.

So I think he likes that.

Yeah.

And that's kind of why he's down with Russia invading Ukraine.

Yeah.

It's close.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You get more stuff.

It makes sense.

Yeah.

I want your stuff is a reason to fight a war.

So this guy is anti-war.

Yeah.

He's super anti-war.

But he's a big into B ⁇ Es

for a country.

Yeah, country B ⁇ Es.

And this one would be good, man.

Sure.

This one would be so good.

Sure.

I don't like war.

But we have millions of dead from fentanyl.

We have millions dead from the crime waves and all the stuff of the past decades.

We have a physical invasion.

We have Mexico helping continue the invasion.

We are under attack.

We didn't start it.

The Marines and the Army have had to go into Mexico in World War I when Mexico sided with the Germans and attacked us.

And before that,

and if the Marines need to go into Mexico City,

so be it.

This is almost indistinguishable from the people trying to defend Bush's wars after 9-11.

Alex says, consider the people who died of fentanyl.

Whereas, you know, back in the day, they were concerned about the Taliban growing poppy and how they were responsible for all the heroin deaths.

It's drugs.

It's drugs.

It's just us.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Alex says that there was a physical invasion, but back in the day, they had the physical attack of 9-11 to terrify people with.

Absolutely.

Alex says that Mexico is enabling the invasion to continue, whereas back in the day, they said Saddam is facilitating terrorism around the world.

He sure did.

Alex is saying we didn't start this, and the Marines, you know, they've had to go into Mexico before.

And back in the day, they could point to the first desert storm as a piece of history that normalizes this march to war.

There you go.

For someone who's built their career on the kind of ground that Alex has, this is pathetic.

This is so wrong for him to like, he's got the people have got to feel betrayed, right?

I mean,

his audience has to feel like, what the fuck?

It's hard not to imagine that this will never, like, okay, do you just

do you think Texas should own everything south of Texas?

I think that's a genuine question now.

Well, I mean, sure.

Once you make Mexico safe.

Yeah, you're going to have to take.

Got to keep going.

You're going to have to take Nicaragua.

Sure.

You're going to have to take Guatemala.

You definitely need the Panama Canal.

So you might as well take everything in between that and there.

And then once you're at the Panama Canal, go for Brazil.

Absolutely.

Brazil's got so much things.

It's big.

Yeah.

And by that point, it's close.

And frankly, we'll all be Mexican then.

I just, I feel like you can't have lived through the Iraq war period and had the kind of mentality that Alex has seemed to have

and put forth this kind of an argument.

I have been sold a war the same way for my entire life

and it's probably never going to stop.

And Alex has built his career on being the opposite of the people who are selling you that war and now he's trying to

create support for

invading Mexico.

Listen, I'm a hardliner except for the situations where I want things the way that I want them.

Yeah.

That's just fucking strange because he seems to actually want war with Mexico.

Great.

So I 100% support

a measured strategic rollout.

And look, the cartels may do terror attacks.

They may kill Republican leaders.

That's what they do.

Good.

Let's get an out in the open fight here.

That way it's not kids dying of fentanyl overdoses and stuff.

We'll send in the men and we'll fight your men and we'll see who wins.

This makes sense in the United States of America.

And this will also

send a message to the rest of the world that America's back.

Yeah, man.

It'll send a message that we'll invade our neighbors.

All right.

Now, if I understand correctly, warfare has not evolved ever.

We'll send our men.

You send your men.

We fight the end.

Yep.

That.

Has that, okay, as a system, now, historically, as a system, has that worked out for us?

You know, it's got us where we are.

So, no.

Yeah, yeah.

There we go.

I can't see this as anything other than a little saber-rattly-y.

Okay, so let's play this out.

Let's war game this from a very literal standpoint.

Sure.

Right?

So, we invade Mexico.

What does that even look like?

Do we have cars?

Do we have tanks?

Are there planes?

Are people getting bussed over the border?

Like, what are we talking about?

We invade Mexico.

Well, Alex has said that the cartels have better technology than the Mexican army.

So it would be a greater challenge than just taking over Mexico.

Right, absolutely.

So that's number one.

So you would need tanks, I would assume.

Yeah.

Okay.

So we've got that.

He did say measured.

But there's so much distance you would have to drive a fucking tank.

It's a tank.

You'd have to drive it forever.

That's a lot of gas.

This is an expensive war before we've even gotten there.

Right.

And that's why you send men on foot.

I mean, is that what he really was?

He's like, let's just do the Alamo, man.

We'll get a bunch of guys.

I've got guns.

Are you asking if Alex wants to do the Alamo?

I think Alex wants to do the Alamo.

That's all he's ever wanted.

I think you might be right.

So

I just think that this is a crazy position for Alex to have.

Like, we should.

Fuck it, man.

They're going to kill Republican leaders.

Good.

I mean,

I don't know if this.

Maybe this exists for everybody.

Maybe we're all like, listen,

I'm against this, but fuck that guy.

That guy's a piece of shit.

Let's go.

Get him.

Is that what we are?

I don't know.

So I thought this was strange, and

it only got worse as Alex began to discuss the idea of Trump taking over D.C.

Okay.

And will it be nasty?

Will it be horrible?

Will it be disgusting?

Yeah, it'll be better than surrender and millions of our people dying quietly.

And the illegal aliens running over people and the drunk drivers and the carjackings and my reporter getting killed and all the home break-ins and all the rest of it.

So these criminals, just like the thugs all over D.C., carjackings 10 times a day, murders, everybody getting robbed, home invasions, and Trump's like, I'm putting feds on the streets.

And we're going to federally charge people.

I mean, look, you've got to do something.

The communists, the globalists, he funded the police.

They want to make us a failed state just like Mexico.

Trump is doing what he has to do.

And on this, I 100% support him.

So that's a fundamental betrayal of everything Alex is supposed to stand for.

Literally everything.

Everything.

Every single one.

Trump is attempting to whip up support for his idea of federalizing the police in Washington, D.C.

And the only justifiable way to argue in favor of this is technicalities involving the Home Rule Act of 1973.

D.C.

isn't a city and it's not a state.

So it doesn't fit the same mold as other municipalities in terms of offering its residents full self-government.

They have a mayor who acts similar to a state's governor, and their council is their legislature.

But because the center of the government is there, the federal folks have an outsized influence.

Congress has to sign off on all the bills that the council passes, and the president retains a lot of powers that would normally go to a governor, like taking over the police in the case of an emergency.

Sure, fuck it.

Section 740 of the Home Rule Act allows the president to take over the municipal police department if there's an emergency, but also they're only supposed to be able to do that for 48 hours.

By that point, the president is required to justify the use of force to Congress unless Congress is adjourned when they do it, in which case they have 30 days.

Sure.

It may surprise you to learn that Trump invoked this while Congress was adjourned.

Huh.

How about that?

So in the real world, crime is down significantly in D.C., so it doesn't seem like there would be a good argument to say that this was an emergency that required this kind of action.

Sure.

But that didn't stop the Trump administration from pretending that everything was out of control.

On August 11th, after Trump officially took over the MPD, the White House published a statement titled, quote, Fact, Yes, D.C.

crime is out of control.

Okay.

It begins, quote, Washington, D.C.

should be a symbol of pride and patriotism for the American people and a safe location for tourists, residents, and public servants.

Unfortunately, while fake news journalists and politicians go out of their way to claim otherwise, the reality is that our nation's capital is anything but safe.

That tone is not what I love to see.

Sure.

So, the first thing they cite in this statement is a study from the Rochester Institute of Technology, which they accurately claim shows D.C.

having a murder rate of 27.3 people per 100,000 residents.

In the very next sentence, they use this study again to claim that D.C.

has the, quote, fourth highest homicide rate in the country.

Sure.

This is based on that same study in that, and it was correct based on that, that D.C.

is the fourth highest among the municipalities that that paper looked at.

But that title, the title of that study is, quote, 2024 Homicide Statistics for 24 U.S.

Cities.

Their data only included 24 cities, which were selected because they were the same cities that this professor, Ershad Altheimer, used when they did the same analysis in 2019 and 2020.

Sure.

This paper isn't about homicide rates full stop.

It's really about homicide rates in Rochester, New York, and how they compare to trends and averages in other U.S.

cities.

The researchers chose 23 other places in the country, and that just became their data set.

It doesn't include some cities with notable homicide rates, like Baltimore, Birmingham, Cleveland, and Jackson, Mississippi.

The Trump administration is using this paper to make the claim that can't be supported by the source.

And by the end of the statement that they put out, their citation for carjacking statistics is a link to a tweet.

Like, this is very clearly trying to build the argument for why there's an emergency as opposed to showing an emergency and then responding to it.

Right.

Everybody accidentally got it backwards.

What you need is an exact number for when you can do it.

And then everything else is when you can't do it.

So, like, what's the number?

Like, is it a thousand per a hundred thousand?

And then you get to do that?

Okay.

But you got to have a number.

You can't just be like, 27's enough.

What?

When?

Is 40 too many?

Is 10 enough?

What, like, what's the number?

Yeah.

You know, you got to work backwards.

Well, but yeah, 27.3 is an interesting number, and, you know, there's a lot of discussion you could have about it.

Sure.

But saying that it's the fourth highest city in the country is just a lie.

Sure.

It's not true based on the context of the source that it's using.

This is

using a lie to push a narrative.

Right, absolutely.

So who cares what the 27 is.

Yeah, no, they shouldn't be able to do it.

Yeah.

And if there's one thing that Alex's career has centered on, it's the idea that a tyrannical leader will exploit and fabricate crises in order to expand their power.

Whether he did 9-11 or not, Bush used the public's fear around the attack to pass the Patriot Act and go to war.

And Alex sold himself as being important because he was the voice who could interrupt the globalist plot.

Their Their evil plans to seize power rely on building that fear up because the public's fear is what drives the public to demand and accept actions that the tyrants couldn't get away with in other circumstances.

It's all part of the Hegelian dialectic, the problem-reaction-solution model of social control.

The globalists tell us there's a problem, and we react by demanding that the government take care of it.

They respond by offering a ready-made solution, which was the reason that they got us all scared about that problem to begin with.

A perfect example of this from Alex's career is the body scanners being put in airports.

He said that on numerous occasions that they wanted to install these all over the place and the contractors stood to make a ton of money from that overhaul, but the public wouldn't have gone for it.

So instead of arguing that the scanners were a good idea, the globalists false flagged a flight with the underwear bomber and just like that, people were demanding that the government protect them from that threat, even if it meant an invasion of our privacy.

Hey, Hey, what are you going to do?

If you've listened to Alex's show and internalized the point that he's making, there's no way to interpret Trump's actions around D.C.

as anything other than a tyrant creating a pretext to seize control.

Absolutely.

It's like it's cookie-cutter.

There's no way to describe his own behavior earlier as anything but that.

Right.

But, oh, fentanyl, let's take Mexico.

It's very, yeah.

But now it's like so.

What are we doing?

Right.

He made the city a fortress alex alex is saying feds on the streets yep that's something that he's saying yeah i mean it's not even the arkansas department of transportation no we have gone up several levels of uh scary and it's fine yeah well and here's the point yeah in the past alex has existed as a figure on the outside of the problem reaction solution dynamic pretending to just observe the demonic plots of his enemies as they unfold and warning people but now he's part of the dialectic.

He's trying very hard to get his audience to be a part of the reaction that justifies Trump's solution.

He can't possibly be the figure that he's pretended to be all these years and not understand that that's what he's doing.

So he was either faking that shit all along or he's now knowingly trying to calm the audience.

Yeah.

And that's sad.

Well, according to him, he's had talks with the White House where they say, what do you want?

So maybe he's gotten what he wants.

And, you know, he's had talks with God.

Well, there's definitely that.

Absolutely.

It's just a mess, man.

They got to, okay.

Now, I understand it's scary and stuff, you know, that he's taking over the D.C.

police and there are feds everywhere.

I understand that's terrifying from a metaphorical standpoint.

But, like,

what is he doing with them?

You got to arrest a congressman, right?

You got to use the police to have a fake investigation and then arrest somebody powerful and terrify the rest of them into

submission, right?

Otherwise, you're just kind of, you know, general vibe scary.

Mm-hmm.

You know?

Well, yeah, I mean, like, we're, we're, like, pushing the boundary a bit.

Sure.

Yeah.

You're saying you got to push the boundary a bit.

I mean, well,

no, nobody's kicking doors down is what I'm saying.

We're, we're not yet quartering soldiers, which is nice.

That's a great amendment, and I think it's going to hold up for quite some time.

But, you know, like, it's scary,

but what do you, you got to do something with it to really give that punch, you know?

Well, actually, a little bit later in this episode, and I'm making this up, so don't take this seriously, Alex does talk about how, like, you know, all you people probably wanted to run a bed and breakfast.

Right?

Quartering soldiers ain't so bad.

It's not, it could be worse.

Yeah.

You know, you've got enough to, it's not like in the 1700s,

you've got a refrigerator.

That's better than they did.

You can handle a quarter.

You can quarter a troop.

Yeah.

So Alex is in favor of Trump federalizing D.C.

Why not?

And that's crazy.

He's also seeming to be very enthusiastic about war with Mexico,

which is just nuts.

We're not starting a war with the Mexican drug cartels that run that country.

They started it.

We're just recognizing that it's going on.

And once America finds its instincts again and finds its genetic code, and I don't mean that like an American ego out about white people, I mean its code what it is, to not sit there and bend over and take it up the ass all day by the whole world, this will turn around very quickly.

So

go ahead, Mexican cartels, attack a U.S.

military base.

Go ahead, kill some Marines, kill some Army, watch what happens.

What?

You're going to get your asses

to hell.

So you want to fight?

You better believe you're you're about to get one.

Because Trump is very focused and he looks at all the data he's got of what's killing this country.

And one of the biggest thing is that narco-terrorist state to the south of us with a bunch of arrogant drug cartels that have taken control of the government and bullied almost every bit of it.

And let me tell you something.

When they run up against 21st century high-tech military, it's bye-bye.

They're not.

guys with a bag of rice in 1847 on the Ho Chi Minh Trail.

They They are in compounds running towns and cities out in the open.

They will be vaporized.

I understand their threat, their

posture, what they've got, what they have.

They are a pushover

for the U.S.

military, other than if they decide to resort to terror attacks and targeting U.S.

law enforcement leaders, which, hey, eggs got to get broken here.

What are we doing?

Do you want to come up here?

Do you want to kill some federal agents and some judges or talk show hosts?

I know you got to hit out on me.

Well, that's what grows the Tree of Liberty, bitch.

What?

So

if you think all Americans have had their balls cut off, and if you think there's no Americans left, you're about to find out.

I predict

war

with Mexico.

This is insane.

Who the fuck is the you in this scenario?

Do you know what I mean?

If you think that you're just like, who is you?

Who is clamoring for war with Mexico?

Who in Mexico is like, it's time for us to take down the U.S.?

The cartels.

Yeah, what?

Yeah.

Are they a full-on, like, conquering military?

Do we have a colonialist force of cartels?

Yeah, I think he's thinking of like the Salamancas or something.

Right?

Yeah, we're in Breaking Bad.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Okay.

Here's the only thing I have to say about this.

Yes.

Completely insane.

Yeah.

But also, I do like the...

That's how you water the Tree of Liberty, bitch.

That's how you water the Tree of Liberty, bitch.

And the reason I like the way Alex is using that is constantly that tree of liberty needs to be watered is a threat right alex is talking about his own blood yep he's like come kill me cartels all liberty i'll wash that tree yeah you rarely hear that in that tone and i i admire it slightly like okay I understand he has this concept of war because we've lived through wars that happen elsewhere.

All of our wars have happened elsewhere because it's really, really hard to cross an ocean to fight.

It's really far, right?

But to have a war that could happen, can you imagine if Mexico just like put a siege on Phoenix and all those old people just got too hot and died?

Like, that would end the war immediately.

We'd be like, ah, fuck it, we'll just keep the border.

The Rio Grande actually makes sense, you know?

Yeah,

just that's even going to Arizona.

Let's keep it in Texas.

Like El Paso is right there.

It's literally right there.

We share it.

Yeah.

I mean, it's just.

We're not doing East El Paso, West El Paso.

This is not Germany.

Despite sincere desire for that, apparently.

On Alex's part.

Oh, my God.

So Alex predicts that Trump will be able to beat the cartels in a week, just like the Epstein finals came out day one, and

Ukraine's done.

That's over now.

It would take a week to get there.

Those tanks rolled slow.

Forever.

So he starts talking a bit about

Russia and Ukraine.

Sure.

How Trump's going to solve all those problems.

I bet he is.

At his Alaska summit because he and Putin, they're the ones who have real power here.

Zelensky is just going to go along with whatever deal these two work out.

I feel like he's kind of been clear on not doing that.

Yeah,

but Alex thinks it's all going to work out.

And then he talks a little bit about history.

Okay.

Russia has said the United States can have Ukraine, which produced 40% of the Cold War weapons.

It's their main industrial center

because it's around the border with Europe.

Russia has destroyed their own infrastructure.

Russia with the Ukrainians, it's like cousins.

It's like a

German Shepherd versus an Alsatian.

It's just a different variety of German Shepherd.

I mean, it's literally where Russia started a thousand years ago.

They're all called a different variety of Serbia.

You understand that, right?

Or Russia or Ukraine or Georgia, they're all called Slavs because of this one Orthodox priest that came in there and evangelized people.

Slav the Wise.

He came from Ukraine.

He came from Kiev.

And so, again, that's why Putin, when he talked to Tucker a few years ago, just harped for like an hour on history, saying, Do you understand this?

I mean, do you know this?

Slav the Wise was not an Orthodox evangelist.

He was the grand prince of Kiev and became the prince of Novgorod and Rostov.

Sure.

The word Slavic doesn't come from his name, and that collective noun predates his birth by hundreds of years.

Oh, yeah.

I do admit they sound similar, though.

So I didn't see how Alex convinced himself of this.

But that mentality that he's expressing there with like, Russia, they ruined their own infrastructure by attacking Ukraine.

That's why we need to attack Mexico.

It's the same mentality that you're talking about.

He thinks Ukraine is rightfully part of Russia.

It's just there.

And he thinks that Mexico is rightly part of the United States or Texas.

Man,

I can't begin to describe what would happen to his brain if he was like, wait, but

they're all just different versions of dog.

So they're all one.

So like

people are all just different versions of people, man.

Maybe we're not being nice to Mexico.

Dog is God backwards, man.

Ooh, that's also pretty serious.

I got to call Rogan.

You're right.

We got to take Ukraine down.

So there's some good news of Trump.

Yeah.

He made a big deal recently.

Yeah.

Big money deal.

To do what?

Selling the EU energy.

And he's taking everything away from Russia.

He's taking everything away from the EU.

These deals screw them even worse.

I mean, when it comes to hardcore business, Trump is dominating for you.

But people don't understand geopolitics.

They don't even see any of this.

Trump just got a deal.

Since NATO blew up their Nord Stream pipeline to the Russians, okay, now you got to buy all your gas from us at a premium.

$600 billion two weeks ago.

So, believe me, Trump isn't sitting there giving Russia a back massage.

So, this $600 billion deal is between the EU and the United States, and it wasn't a situation where the Nord Stream was blown up, so the EU had to come to us for gas.

Basically, what happened here is that Trump threatened way too high of tariffs on EU countries, and things got a little bit messy.

Following through with his threats would severely severely impact the U.S.

economy, but giving up on them would hurt his ego.

So the EU struck a deal where they would avoid ridiculously high tariffs and they would pledge to spend a bunch of money in the future on U.S.

energy.

There's no commitment and no enforcement mechanism for this pledge.

Most experts say it would be literally impossible to follow through on.

One basic issue is supply.

The United States couldn't export enough energy to reach the numbers in this agreement.

Politico quoted a gas expert as saying that the arrangement is, quote, completely unrealistic.

The numbers are just beyond wild.

She also said it was, quote, never going to happen.

And on the other side of the equation, you have a problem with demand in that the EU itself, it can't force member countries or private companies to buy American energy products.

So they're not in a position where they can

dictate that.

Weird how that works.

So just like forcing them to buy American energy is impossible.

Right.

And the United States can't create enough to get to the number that is in the middle of the market.

I don't understand what you're saying.

I feel like you're trying to make some sort of point, but all I'm hearing is that Trump is crushing it.

He's so good.

He's so good.

So, Trump needed something to save face over the fact that his tariff demands weren't going to fly.

So, the EU agreed to a ridiculous thing that the U.S.

can't deliver on and they can't enforce.

So, everyone can just walk away feeling like winners.

That's nice.

I was reading a couple takes on this.

Are there takes?

Do you need a take?

Well, yeah, I don't know.

But

people have the interesting point of like, I think people have figured out how to deal with Trump.

Yeah.

And that is just don't lie.

Yeah.

Yeah.

He's lying.

Why would you not lie?

How many times have I been screaming this at people for how long?

Yeah.

Give him a fantasy that will make him happy and then everybody else can act like they're real.

Yeah.

God damn it.

Fake capitulation.

It's like, it seems like it could work.

Yeah.

And this deal was like a really prime example that people had of like, well, it kind of looks like the EU just agreed to something that was non-binding and they definitely can't do and the U.S.

wouldn't want to do either.

Yeah, we'll play pretend with you.

Yep.

Yep, absolutely.

That's great.

Can I just ask the question?

All right.

So, Trump is crushing it at business for you.

Now,

and you.

I feel like perhaps if he was crushing it at business for me, there would be some evidence that he had crushed business for me in the past at any given point in time.

And considering he is a 90-billion-year-old man, we would have some evidence.

But he has only ever crushed it at business for himself.

Yeah, that's true.

It's not, there weren't homes, stakes.

You can crush it at business for other people without being the president.

You definitely can.

Yep.

And this is such a weird example for Alex Alex to be taken as like this big win

because

the numbers, like I said, they're ridiculous.

They essentially would require the United States, all of the energy that we export have to go to the EU.

And then we'd have to make more in order to get to this agreement.

Or we could just not give a shit.

Yeah.

No, imagine if we just had

a department of the government called the Coddling Department that made up a bunch of fun things for far-right conservatives and those people to believe in, and then everybody else just worked the rest of the day like normal people.

I honestly think that maybe it's at this point,

is it a chronic condition we just have to deal with?

Right?

I mean, we just have to live with.

It's about pain management, not pain solution.

I don't know.

Maybe.

So

the issue that Alex has is that

we got to be nice to Putin.

Of course.

We got to be friends with Russia because if we don't, they're going to be friends with China.

And we don't want that.

So we need to drive a wedge between them so we can have all the business.

Sure.

Because Russia and the United States, they secretly want to be friends,

but not China.

No, China's bad.

Why?

What?

I don't know.

Okay.

But Alex says something towards the end of this clip that I just thought was just very funny.

So I've always been here.

Just because we're getting people in government that aren't 100% against our country doesn't mean when, oh, well, and now I'm for China taking over because I don't want the U.S.

elites to be in control.

There are elites now.

We're taking the country back and we're cutting off the ChiComs.

Got it?

We have power.

We hold the administration's feet to the fire.

We're in charge.

Got it?

What, you think we stand up to communist China by putting the Democrats in?

Maybe.

Well, J.D.

Vance is just trying to end the war with Russia because he wants to cut China off.

Yeah.

Uh-huh.

Exactly.

You know what China's doing to the South China Sea and everywhere else?

You know what they're doing, dominating the whole planet?

What their agenda is?

You think the Democrats are bad?

The Communist Chinese make them look like angels.

And the Russians have got the biggest country in the world.

More resources than the whole continent of Africa.

The real

strategy Pentagon documents going back to the 50s and throughout, up to now and the RAND Corporation and Carnegie said the ultimate alliance would be the United States and Russia geographically and resource-wise and culturally.

And through soft power, we would dominate the whole planet and have a true golden age.

And

verticalize the Middle East.

Saudi Arabia is going that way.

and just stop it.

And then we can have the Jetsons future, but not under this current trajectory.

So, yeah, I do support Trump and the security establishment beachhead we have that doesn't want to drive Russia in the arms of China and destroy the dollar in America's future.

Yeah, 100%.

I'm in alignment with that, of course.

And stop the eugenics poisoning of our food and water and the Bill Gates plan and all the rest of it and the Hollywood demoralization of the country.

Trump's doing all the right things on that stuff, folks.

Securing the border, national sovereignty, all of it.

But the main danger is NATO attacking a nuclear reactor in eastern Ukraine, blowing up some NATO ships, planting them on Russia, firing some missiles into Poland or Romania or something like that.

We're in the prime zone right now

for titanic efforts, as the Russians say, to derail this peace deal.

Because Zelensky and NATO won't take it, so Trump says, fine, I'm going to go do a deal with Putin.

Offer it to them, and if they don't do it, we're out.

And it's going to happen.

And this brings down the whole globalist system and it cuts russia off from china and drives them into our arms which in all strategic analyses is the obvious best move for everybody concerned

empires that were smart didn't kill each other they made alliances they married their sons and daughters off that's what they did

that's strange uh you know certainly the guy who hates like feudal systems and kings and stuff is like we should uh we should intermarry no what we should have is two large empires that control vast swaths of territory between the two of them.

You know, I think that's great.

Through like threats of extreme violence.

Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

It's because it would be a new golden age, so people would just naturally go along with it.

Sure.

You know, like when you de-radicalize the Middle East, if you're America and Russia, what you're really doing is just talking.

It's talk therapy.

Look at us.

We got through it.

You guys can get through it.

I'm picturing Putin pulling up a chair and sitting back in the future.

Oh, absolutely.

Let's rap.

Yeah.

Guys,

let's get into it.

That's how he's approaching the situation.

Absolutely.

I guess the more shocking part was actually at the beginning of that clip where Alex is like, the elites are our elites now.

Yeah, that one.

Yeah, that one's crazy.

It's kind of got to be stupid to try and pull that.

In what world can you have your own elites?

They have you.

That's the whole point of it.

The word elite is they have you.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

They have their own intrinsic interests that don't include you.

Yeah, I understand the British people think it makes sense that they have a king, but the king has them.

That's how it works.

That's how kings work.

Yeah.

And like I said, this is kind of the difference that Alex is finding himself in.

Like he's inside that conversation between the elites and the

unwashed masses.

Right, right, right, right.

As opposed to being someone who's like, this is how they're trying to trick you, man.

He's like, I'm trying to trick you.

This is

like the guy who was in the union, who's fucking fighting, who's crushing it, and then he's a rep, and all of a sudden he's like, You know what?

These guys are really nice.

I think if you just talk to them, we don't have to get everything we want.

Yeah, it has that vibe.

Yep.

So, most of the beginning of this episode has been a large desire to go to war with Mexico.

Right.

Signing off 100% on Trump, putting troops in D.C.

And I thought, like, we are off to the fucking races.

Yeah.

But then, halfway through the show, everything changes.

Fuck that shit because we got to talk about beef.

Oh, my God.

Well, the story has gone mega viral in the last two days.

And I'm so glad that the public is finally erupting with interest over this because I've been focusing on lab-grown meat

and lab-grown butter and lab-grown milk and

insect flour.

It's not flour, it's toxic chitin shells of crickets and things

for decades.

But now all the big top food producers, Tyson, you name it,

in the last four years have invested tens of billions of dollars.

And they've got factories, you pull it up, built all over the United States

to have lab-grown meat and produce all these insects

and try to force you to eat it.

Now, at first, I thought, all right, we're just doing Eats of Bugs.

Yeah, and we're just going to try and rehash that territory.

Why not?

But Alex kept teasing, and he kept selling this story.

It's going mega viral.

I don't know what it is.

Well, I'll give you a hint.

It has to do with fucking fake butter.

There we go.

Fake butter.

Yeah, there's a fake butter company, and someone did a local TV news piece about it.

Yeah.

Was it that they can't believe it's not butter?

I don't.

I think they legally couldn't say that, but they were dancing around it quite a bit.

I am finding it difficult to grasp that this thing is not what I expect it to be.

You have deceived me into thinking.

Yeah, so that's the...

like the kernel of the story.

Now, I would probably just ignore this,

except for this leads to one of the biggest belly flops I think I've ever seen Alex do.

I love it.

And

I think it'll pay off, even if I hype it.

The high dive.

So here we get into the beginning of the discussion of lab-made butter.

Okay.

So we're not going to just look at the lab-made butter.

We're going to look at lab-made beef, salmon, all of it right now.

A company called Batavia in Illinois is making butter in a way you're not ever seen before.

No animals, no plants, no oils.

The butter is made from carbon.

Oil.

The sustainability-focused approach has the blessing and backing of Bill Gates.

CBS News.

So let's go ahead and roll this news report, then I'll give you the news behind the news, the rest of the story.

It looks, smells, and tastes like the butter we're all familiar with, but without the farmland, fertilizers, or emissions tied to that typical process.

So, this company isn't called Batavia.

That's a city.

That's the city.

Yeah, the city in Illinois.

I've done a lot of comedy at Batavia.

Sure, you have.

There's a company called Savor, and they have a factory in Batavia.

Sure.

A fund started by Bill Gates is invested in Savor, and he wrote a blog post about their butter product last February.

Okay.

This isn't news.

Alex just saw a bunch of idiots posting about this year-old story

that now, like maybe a week before this, some local news did a thing about the factory.

Yeah.

Isn't it interesting?

They make butter.

Yeah, I mean, I can't, I understand that there's like a lot of fear and stuff because, yeah, of course there is.

But I thought, I've always thought that the future had part of it was just like, oh, we can rearrange atoms to make the thing, you know?

Like, oh, we can rearrange the air to make butter.

Great, perfect.

That's the future, right?

I don't need to ask questions.

Sure.

I mean, someone should be asking questions, but it's not me.

But not me.

Yeah, I'm not going to help in this situation.

I do a podcast, and I'm kind of interested.

Yeah.

But I also know that I'm not a butter scientist.

Absolutely not.

So

I'll leave a lot of those should we do this questions.

I'm barely even a butter enthusiast.

Yeah.

I accept the stuff that's below.

I can't believe it's up.

I can believe it's not butter.

Right, right, right.

This shit is not butter.

No one's going to be tricked.

Unmistakably, not butter is the brand I buy.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So, look, man,

they're trying to sell you fake butter.

Also, where can I get, when can I get this fake butter?

Where can I get this fake butter?

This will come up later.

Okay, good.

In the local news piece.

This is a very important thing because this is a local news piece from Batavia, Illinois, that I'm supposed to view as a threat by the globalists.

In 2027, it might be in stores.

So get scared.

Fear now.

Right.

Okay.

But here's the thing: they're trying to sell you this, and they know the only way they can do it is to fucking get women to do it.

Because women aren't scary.

Women aren't scary.

Even to the carbon footprint being much lower for a process like this, right?

The land footprint is like a thousand times lower than what you need in traditional agriculture.

I know what you're thinking.

I think we need to taste this.

I always love for you to text us.

How does it taste?

It's possible.

I love butter.

Notice how all the managers, all the reporters

are women with Stockholm Syndrome that went and got their college degree in PR and science.

And so it's non-threatening.

Oh, it's a woman.

It's always a woman.

Oh, we're going to teach your son to cut his penis off.

It's transgender.

I'm sorry, that's a jump.

I'm a woman.

I'm non-threatening because epigenetically...

You're not threatened by a woman as being a tyrant because traditionally men commit 97% of violent crime in every culture.

Okay.

So I think Alex's point is supposed to be that the globalists have women sell you on these evil things like fake butter because no one's scared of women.

That's great, but Alex is super afraid of women and anything he sees as not masculine enough.

The globalists aren't putting a female face on this.

The company's co-founder and CEO just happens to be a woman named Kathleen Alexander.

Alex sees a woman in this position and he needs to invalidate it somehow because she couldn't possibly be there because of merit and hard work.

She's only there because the globalists need a not scary face to sell you on fake butter.

And if they didn't need that, then a man would be in charge because that's the way nature intended it.

And I'm not scared of women.

Yeah.

I mean, I think the

real issue here is that the magical science is finally being perfected.

Alchemy will come true in our lifetime.

We will be able to turn lead into gold.

And that

is

an achievement, right?

That not even Newton, not even Isaac Newton himself could figure out.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And now

we can turn air into butter.

We're just going to make butter from air.

Shouldn't that just be something that we all go like, good for you?

Like,

I'm not even stoked or against it or anything like that.

If you want to try and turn air into butter, fuck yeah.

Well, I think the real question is: once they do that, what will stop them from replacing all the air with butter?

I mean,

and then how do you?

So many, again, so many things.

Oh, they pretend to care about climate change, but they want to replace air with butter.

So the butter is like, is like a cat's cradle.

It's like Vonnegut's ice nine or whatever.

Once you fabricate enough butter, it will create its own butter chain reaction, and then we'll all drown in butter.

You're crazily not far off.

I'm sort of joking, but Alex kind of thinks that lab-grown meat is self-replicating in a way that it could take over.

Right, fair enough.

That's going to do.

Because they're growing this meat with human cancer cells.

How does it taste?

I love butter, so I'm going to take a really healthy amount.

Admittedly, surprisingly, like butter.

Back it up again.

Back it up back again.

Back it up.

Back it up.

I love butter.

It's all scripted, so I'm going to take a really big bite.

It's not butter.

How are they allowed to to call bug protein chitin, very carcinogenic?

They're shells.

Flour.

How are they able to call human cancer cells

beef?

How are they able to call human cancer cells?

I'm about to get to it.

Fish.

Because you take a blob of fish and throw it in with Henrietta Lack's immortal cell line and it grows a whole vat of it.

The cancer takes over those cells, like the movie The Thing, and then replicates a giant vat.

Some of these vats, I've seen them, are the size of Olympic swimming pools.

You just throw in blobs of Henrietta Lacks' cancer blob, and you throw in some salmon cells, and a month later, you got a big, giant vat of salmon.

Do you?

Yep.

Just throw it in the pool.

Just so Henrietta Lacks cancer cells into some fish.

I mean,

this is not a great system, but if it works, you know, it works.

It's so funny, because I see the thought process in his head.

No.

I see it.

It's how Clayface from the Batman antimated series was created.

Yeah.

It's amazing.

He's...

It's so dumb.

Yeah.

But, but kind of beautiful.

It is the way that a child would see how this would work, work, and it would be pure in its own way.

Yeah, so throughout this,

he's interrupting this local news story.

Right.

And he's teasing a lot that he's about to, he's going to get to the cancer cell part of it.

The Henrietta Lex of it all.

I could not love calling a local news segment

acting more.

Like, this is, have you ever seen a local news?

These are so, this is the most produced thing that this place is going to make that day.

And they loved it.

They fucking loved it.

Let them have their fun.

Yeah,

to the extent that

anything isn't taken over by like Clear Channel or, you know, whatever these, these big conglomerates that own all of the stations, let these people do their shit.

Let these people just have their fun.

Yeah, yeah.

So Alex is teasing.

He's teasing away.

We're just a bar.

Another reason they say this makes an impact?

No palm oil, a significant contributor to deforestation and climate change.

That's not all.

Of the 51 billion tons of greenhouse gases emitted every year, 7% is from the production of fats and oils from animals and plants.

So when could you get a taste yourself?

Right now, they're working directly with restaurants.

Oh, it's so wonderful and so delicious and so healthy.

When can you get it for yourself?

That's what you asked.

Yes.

That is what I asked.

Don't worry.

It's only at the most trendy restaurants first, just like the fake salmon from human cancer cells.

We'll tell you about it in a moment.

Let's continue.

This is a guy having fun.

This is great.

Some ladies are talking about fake butter, and Alex is pissed off about it.

So he's just interrupting this video over and over so he can blow off steam and just keeps promising that right around the corner, he's going to show us these lab-made meats that are being grown with human cancer cells.

Yep.

He sucks, and this is stupid, but there's something about this that feels right.

This feels like home for Alex.

When I was growing up, my grandfather spent most of his day, like starting at 10 a.m.

or whatever, at this bar with these three other guys playing cards the whole day.

They weren't drinking.

They'd have maybe a beer.

Like, they were just there.

That's where they were.

And they were talking bullshit at each other.

Things that were nonsensical, that could never happen, that will never happen, that wouldn't happen in anyone's mind but their own.

That is what Alex is meant to do.

Yeah, yeah, that's it.

He's meant to like sit there and talk shit and break down what secret messages the media is trying to tell you with this fake butter stuff.

Interjected every now and then with, it's your play.

Yeah.

Yep.

That's what it's got to be.

And like, he needs the staff to press the button and back it up a couple seconds.

He needs that.

Yeah.

Can't do it himself.

Uh-uh.

So

the local news hit ends,

Alex is fucking pissed about her wardrobe.

Bullshit.

I put information on food sustainability and how this could impact our food industry moving forward in the story that's up on our website right now, where you'll also find more information about this company.

Reporting inside Savor's facility in Batavia, I'm Tara Molina, CBS News Chicago, investigators.

Oh, and like the doctors wearing white lab coats, take the shot.

You can't get COVID.

You can't share it.

You'll get a nice heart attack and cancer, cancer, though, and it'll destroy your immune system, and you get COVID way worse.

She's wearing a hard hat and safety glasses.

My God, I got to listen to her.

So, Tara Molina has won both national and regional Edward R.

Murrow Awards.

Holds a master's degree in mass communication from Arizona State University's Walter Cronkite School of Journalism and Mass Communication.

Nice.

And is overqualified for her.

Sure, she put on a hard hat and safety glasses for the sign-off shot of this piece, but that's kind of like the level of quirk that they allow on local people.

This is what we're here for, man.

This is the human spirit that she uses to give in to corporatism.

All of everything else that you could ever complain about mainstream media does not apply to this one section.

This media is perfect for what it is.

And it relies on that hard hat.

Absolutely.

Absolutely.

The story is about a factory in Batavia producing this butter, so it's not like that hat is out of place, but more importantly, how is wearing a hard hat like people wearing lab coats so they can convince me to get vaccinated?

Right.

I get that a lab coat's supposed to signal that I can trust those doctors, but are construction workers known for telling you what foods are safe, or are they butter scientists?

I mean, I have no idea.

Does it make me trust her more to be like, oh, she's a blue-collar person instead of the very qualified woman who's telling me about this?

I don't know, but he's mad.

I mean, but

don't you see the beauty in a local news segment about imaginary butter you might see two years from now?

Maybe.

And you will never have to buy.

No, no.

You will never, it will never affect your life.

You will probably never think about it again.

No.

Almost certainly never, ever again will you think about it.

The only reason you're thinking about it now is because someone tweeted something angry about this local news story and you saw it on Twitter.

You're of the people who saw it in real time, you're one of maybe 200.

If that.

Yep.

So, you know, you got these butter.

Yeah.

Fake butter.

Fake butter.

Now, that's like a fatty thing.

It's like a fatty oil lipid kind of thing.

I mean, if you can create it on an atomic level, I suppose you can't call it fake butter.

It's just, it's actual butter.

I don't believe it.

Fair enough.

I don't know.

I don't want to litigate that.

I don't really care.

I'm just using fake butter as a proxy because

it's real enough for me.

Yeah, I don't care.

Absolutely.

But they also got fish.

Okay.

They got salmon.

Okay.

They got some salmon that is grown in swimming pools.

I mean, everybody is rejecting this crap.

But you notice, oh,

they're putting it in food companies that don't tell you what's in the ingredients.

They're like, well, they said that's coming in 2017.

Really?

It got approved last year.

Now it went on the shelves this week at restaurants at the most trendy Haitian restaurant in San Francisco.

Lab-grown salmon introduced by Bay Area-based cultivated seafood company, wild type.

So it's not wild.

But they tell you it's wild salmon when you go, oh, it's wild, but it's not.

It's not even salmon.

Yeah, man.

Right.

So there are literally news stories about this brand of salmon being lab-grown.

So I'm not sure what point Alex is trying to make.

The only reason he's even heard of their name is because someone wrote a press release about it being served at this restaurant, and then folks who Alex follows on Twitter got mad about it.

There's no trickery here, and the only reason this even happened is because Trump's FDA approved their salmon for public sale back in May.

Oh, my God.

So

the wild type name of a company, no one's being tricked.

They're trying to actually get more people to the restaurant

by advertising, hey, we got this fake salmon.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Can I ask you a question?

Yeah.

All right.

These swimming pools of fake salmon.

Do you see yourself being able to, like if you were giving a guided tour, would you be able to grab a spoon and be like, take a little spoon, like

have a taste of salmon for yourself?

Texturally

spork.

But yeah,

I think that's wise.

Yeah, I'm actually kind of imagining, like, does Alex think there are fins?

Right.

That's what I'm

does he think you still need to clean it.

What level of recreating fake salmon does he think?

I mean, obviously, we know that it's not like they're putting it in salmon-shaped molds and then, you know.

They're not also recreating scales.

Yeah, exactly.

Yeah, exactly.

Yeah.

But does he think that?

Right.

Yeah.

That's the million-dollar question.

And I don't know.

I don't know either.

Yeah.

So they use this name wild type to try and trick you.

Okay.

Because they want to trick you into eating this fake meat.

And that's why they use the women.

Don't they have on the menu like fake salmon or even a press release that's probably available that they put the they themselves put out?

Yeah.

Yeah.

They made a big deal out of it.

Yeah.

Area-based cultivated seafood.

Seafood.

It's not seafood.

It's grown in the lab.

Cultivated seafood wild.

What did they call their company with the fake butter?

Savor.

It's savory.

Everything.

Like listing, again, a deadly poison like cyanide is applesauce.

Lab-grown salmon is now FDA approved.

Here's why this one restaurant is putting...

it on the menu.

It's the hottest restaurant, the Haitian restaurant.

Wow,

Haitians are definitely not with their cuisine.

Well, they're black.

We better eat it.

So that is quite a leap.

Quite a leap.

What are we doing?

Whoa.

So this company, Wild Type, makes lab-grown salmon products, and a completely separate restaurant decided to incorporate it into a dish after the FDA approved the salmon.

That restaurant serves Haitian cuisine, which Alex associates with black people.

So it must be a ploy to stop people from questioning the meat.

This is a dude who thinks that women are trying to trick him into eating fake butter, and he'll be called a racist for not eating eating fake salmon.

Yep.

This is sad.

Do you know what?

This reminds me of when I was growing up, there was a certain type of dude who you would be out with and maybe you'd just be walking and then you'd be talking and then he'd do like a nut tap where he'd just smash you in the balls real hard, right?

That that hit of racism at the end, that was a nut tap to me.

That was exactly like Jesus man ow like what the fuck just happened?

There's no need for that.

No.

No.

No, there's not.

No, don't be the guy don't be that guy i love though that this this show has deteriorated into alex try just being so suspicious about uh like black people and women trying to make him eat fake foods what in the world could you possibly why would they what well what we might we might have uh an answer a little bit later all right so we're we're in the meeting

right where we're trying to sell people fake salmon all right we're people who are in the real world, thinking about how the real world works.

Is our first thought like, oh,

America responds well to black people and women?

Yep.

They're not scared of women.

Right.

And they don't want to turn down fake salmon from a Haitian restaurant because they'll be called racist.

You know what?

If I was going to work with McKinsey Consulting, I doubt that would be their

decision.

Probably.

Just saying.

So here is what I would say is one of the finer moments of recent memory on Alex's show.

Alex is talking about, he finally is done with the complaining about the ladies and the roads.

We're free.

We're free of that.

Talked about the salmon a little bit.

Now we've got to talk about cancer cells.

We got to talk about the immortal cell loss.

Right, Henrietta Lex.

Yep.

Yep.

It's not me.

That's false advertising.

Who's afraid of lab-grown meat?

Yeah, what's your wrong, pussy?

Science has created immortal human lipid cells.

Now, let's talk about in most of these companies how they're producing it.

Growth hormone, immortal cell lines,

and then they just emulsify the cells of whatever it is they want to copy, and then the cancer grabs it and then uses

the vitamin water, basically.

I don't mean the actual company vitamin water, but you know, vitamins and sugar, and then it just

produces this giant cancer blob,

and then they call it beef, beef.

That's such a good explanation.

That's good.

I imagine

getting

so many degrees, working so hard for so long, learning so much, and then being at like a dinner party and just having to try and explain even the slightest bit of it to Alex, and then just going,

fuck it.

You know what happens?

We put some stuff into a little petri dish and then it goes,

and then you get meat.

That's what happens.

It would go the opposite direction.

Like, Alex would be like, oh, you think you're so smart with what you do at your job?

It's just a boolean.

Yeah, that's fair.

That's fair.

Try and alpha you.

Oh, you use syringes.

We all use syringes.

So, Alex has quite a headline headline there about immortal human lipid cells being created by these scientists.

Yes, absolutely.

So lipids are a group of chemical compounds in the body that take a bunch of different forms, but one of the main ones is fats and oils.

Sure.

This is why the news about the butter is so important, because they claim they're just coming up with this fatty oil out of nowhere, but isn't it just a coincidence that scientists created an immortal human lipid cell line?

It's almost too big of a coincidence to ignore.

Well, I mean, in a a sense, it is a coincidence, but also at the same time, in a sense, it's more that one is not possible without the other being true.

Well, I have other news for you.

Uh-oh.

Alex misread the headline.

Oh, no.

The actual headline is, quote, scientists have created immortal human lip cells.

Lip, not lipid.

This is about researchers at the University of Bern successfully immortalizing a lip cell line for the first time, which is a big breakthrough and has nothing to do with fake meat.

No, that seems cool.

This is art.

Alex has been teasing this immortal cell shit for the whole episode, and then when it's time to pull out the source, he misread a headline, but he's in too deep to bail.

Absolutely.

I want you to listen to this moment again.

Scientists created immortal human

lipid cells.

Now let's talk about.

He knows that didn't say lipid.

Fuck.

I do like it whenever his pauses are swear words.

Yep, that is nice because we've seen it a lot, especially when trying to read where he just goes, fuck, silently.

I appreciate it.

Yep.

Yep.

This, like, that's poise, though, too.

Yeah.

That's a guy who realizes, like,

can't go back.

Can't go back now.

Nope.

If I stop running full speed, I'm going to.

No.

A lot of people would have read the word, hit a brick wall, and then have scrambled.

Like, they would have panicked.

They wouldn't have been able to pull it off.

That plane is getting crashed into that mountain.

This was fantastic.

Sometimes it's just good.

Just a little pause

that you can clearly tell

bullshit.

Oh boy.

If I keep running, I'll never fall.

Yep.

Yep.

So why not keep running?

Why not keep running?

CNN, lab-grown meats cleared for sale.

Go read about immortal cell lines.

Just type it in.

Type it in.

Henrietta Lacks and one other person.

Their cells never die.

You mix with anything, it just copies them.

They call her cell line.

Her family gets paid a patent on it now.

Kila.

Henrietta Lacks.

Yeah, ma'am.

Millions and millions of tons every year of her cells created.

Henrietta Lacks, immortal cell line.

Here she is right here.

She came in a couple weeks.

This blob grew, ate her whole body.

It was a giant amoeba sitting there on the hospital bed.

I'm sorry?

See what this does.

And now you eat it.

A spontaneously immortalized muscles stem cell line from Brown Marbled Grouper for cell-cultured fish meat production.

You can just read all about grouper and salmon and everything.

And they

they just splice it in with her and just call it that.

So, do you know you're eating a black woman's cancer cup?

So that article that Alex thought was about lipid cells, but was about lips talks about how the researchers were able to create that line from donated cells from two people who are currently alive.

Sure.

The name immortal cell line sounds like something otherworldly or magical, but it's really not.

Nope.

Alex thinks thinks that there are only two cell lines that have ever been immortal, which come from Henrietta Lacks and some unidentified child.

Because he thinks all immortal cell lines come from these two sources, whenever he sees those words, he assumes that it must be about human cells from one of them.

Yep.

The headline that he reads off there about Grouper is from a 2024 article in the journal Communications Biology titled,

A Spontaneously Immortalized Muscle Stem Cell Line from Brown Marbled Grouper for Cell cultured fish meat production.

This is about fish muscle cells.

It has nothing to do with Henrietta Lacks.

This is crazy.

Yeah, yeah, maybe,

maybe.

Okay, so if I'm looking at two options, all right, tell the truth, wherein very smart people have figured out all kinds of very smart things and I look like an idiot, or

lie my balls off and call people cannibals.

There are reasons to be wary of technologies like this.

Sure.

You don't have to be stupid to be skeptical.

And it's so funny that Alex can't.

He has to be stupid.

Just be,

just, it's fine.

It's fine.

If you're going to get poisoned by fake butter, there's no way you're going to be able to stop it.

Right?

Like, if you can see a fake butter poisoning coming, then they shouldn't even do the fake butter plan.

Right?

Sure.

I mean, I think, again, we get to the issue of all air being replaced by butter.

Yeah.

And what, you know, the scientists will be bitten by the snake they tried to charm.

The butter singularity is going to happen.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So anybody would, you know, you'd not start the process because you'd know that this is inevitably what's going to happen.

My wife loves butter.

That would be her chosen way to go.

The butter singularity.

Yeah.

I mean, look, it's savory.

It's that's what they want you to think?

Sure.

So Alex starts to think about this.

He's like, all right, I have just described the blob.

Yep.

And

it absorbs everything and becomes bigger.

And so Henriette Lex, her whole body became a big old blob.

If I understand correctly, that is what he said.

And then they just started adding it to things.

And then, like, oh, hey, we can make beef.

Yep.

So he started to think about this.

And I believe at some point, live on air, he realizes,

why would it ever stop?

Good question.

So if I'm buying a steak that is this.

That self-grows.

It's gonna, if I leave it in the fridge or whatever, it's gonna become two steaks.

Right.

And then four, and then eight, and then sixteen.

That is how it works.

And then we're gonna get into that grain of rice thing with the prints of

the chessboard.

Yeah, yeah, it's gonna be a problem.

And so Alex is like, You better just cook it.

I mean,

that'll stop it.

What do we call cancer cell

blobs?

We're gonna sell them tumors of hyperactive cancer cells that take over everything.

Well, you, oh, you.

I'm just thinking, you better cook this lab-grown meat really good because if you absorb, well, this is hit me.

If you eat

a living,

undead,

uncooked, immortal cell line that takes over any cells around it.

Yep.

That means.

Oh, my God.

What's the COVID shot?

Dude, it goes in and turns off your muscle.

Causes cancer.

My God.

Good Lord.

I mean,

and then you've got all the big, big pharma companies saying, oh, cancer is about to go up 5,000% in the last couple of years.

It is going up right now.

You go straight up and you're like, and everybody's going to be eating this.

Oh, honey, let's go out and have some wild salmon tonight.

We'll only pay $50 for this.

This is wild cod.

Oh, good Lord.

He's cracked the code.

He's figured it all out.

I don't know what to do with that.

Oh, good Lord.

Oh, good Lord.

Oh, good Lord.

See, here, I want to talk about that specific moment with you because I really don't know if Alex is taking himself seriously in that moment.

100%.

Has he given up on himself?

I was, I, I've, because the tone is problematic.

The tone sounds fake.

The tone sounds incredibly fake.

The tone sounds like fucking Adam West is saying, oh, good lord, the Joker is out again.

Yeah.

You know?

Yeah.

Yeah.

It's tongue-in-cheek.

But at the same time.

No, no, no, no.

I don't know.

I don't know.

I don't think his is tongue-in-cheek.

I meant Adam West.

Sure.

Right, right, right.

His, but his has this similar tone to that, which makes it difficult for me to say that it's a genuine, oh, good lord, as in fear of this brilliant plan that he stumbled upon.

Yeah.

Right?

Like, I think what it feels like to me is someone who hasn't convinced himself and he can't really even get it up.

Oh, good lord.

Just like, oh, hey, if you eat the beef, it'll give you cancer in the, because it'll, the cells.

Right.

And the COVID shot was to wipe out your immune system so you couldn't fight the beef.

Right.

The fake beef.

You're right.

Is this him being like, I can no longer get it up?

This is my ED.

This is what it looks like.

This is what it looks like.

This has never happened to me before.

I can't get it up for this.

I guess the meat is going to become everything bullshit.

I think some of it has to be because of the lipid.

thing.

No, you're right.

I think that even though he valiantly battled through

that headline.

Even though he did not show any sign of losing his momentum in the moment, I think it took its toll.

I think the friction of that has gotten him to the point where, like, I don't want to overcommit to this because by tomorrow, I'm not going to be able to use this headline anymore.

Nope.

So

shouldn't have used it today.

Yeah.

The beef is going to take over.

Oh, the beef is going to take over.

Oh, good lord.

Oh, God, you guys.

I can't.

I fucked up.

I fucked up, guys.

This one's on me.

Maybe try the butter.

It's probably going to be fine.

But I feel like this

end here.

Oh, good lord.

Oh, good lord.

That's why you storm off.

That's why

when you have that headline, you pretend that there's a tech problem and you just get off air, regroup.

Because you're going to end up in a situation where you're like, better cook that.

Cook that beef well.

You better cook that cancer well.

That's where you ended up.

Better cook that.

You better cook that well.

We've already established that you've bought the fake meat.

You're fucked, according to Alex.

You've already bought the fake meat, but you've got the fake meat.

You've been tricked by the globalist.

It's called wild type.

You're like, oh, well, but then the globalist plan can be foiled by proper cooking, if I understand correctly in Alex's worldview.

But yeah, yeah.

You got to get a meat thermometer.

It's got to be well done.

We can no longer get a title.

It's got a meat thermometer.

Oh, shit.

Oh, good lord.

Oh, good lord.

They're trying to change everything.

It's not a meat thermometer.

It's a cancer thermometer.

It's a Gila thermometer.

Oh, boy.

So, anyway, that was a lot of fun.

And I'd like to remind you that this episode started with him encouraging war with Mexico.

Yep, yep.

And then turned into a tirade about fake butter based on a misreading of a headline.

Yeah.

You know, you know, I will say, you know what I would say?

I would say this.

You know, like when you think about reading history books and they tell you the things that happened, it's sometimes harder to put yourself in the mind of somebody who's living through the thing that happened, right?

So you can find out that all of these characters are actually ridiculous characters later on, but in the moment, you're like, this is the government, this is the emperor of Rome saying something, right?

It's hard to imagine living through

that of pool of salmon stuff being real, And then just, oh, I guess that's fine.

Just

throw a little salmon steak into the pool.

Just

a pool-sized vat of undulating salmon cancer cells.

And it had to be a pool, too, because he's thinking about swimming as a fish.

Yep.

So, like, you wouldn't have a pool full of beef.

Why?

Why would you have a pool full of beef?

Aren't barrels, don't they exist for a reason?

Yeah, barrel beef.

Yeah, it's got to be a barrel.

It's got to be a a barrel.

Fish are in a pool.

You could grow it in casks.

We could have like aged fake meat.

Yeah, that's the way to do it.

But that's the thing.

Once they crack that nut,

you can age immediately.

You can age that meat.

You're right.

You're right.

There's just no, there's no end to it.

And that's why

the poison's going to be in the butter, obviously.

Yep.

Yep.

Because put a little butter on your fake steak.

It's good that way.

Double fed.

It's good that way.

Dear God.

Oh, dear God.

So anyway, Trump has taken over DC.

That's the takeaway from this episode in particular.

And Alex is spending his evening talking about butter.

We will check back in to see how Alex responds once Trump actually has deployed some of these forces and Alex is forced to justify and defend this.

But until then,

we have a website.

Indeed, we do.

It's KnowledgeFight.com.

Yep.

We'll be back.

But until then, I'm Neo.

I'm Leo.

I'm DZX Clark.

I am the mysterious Mysterious Professor.

Woo, yeah, woo, yeah, woo.

And now here comes the sex robots.

Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.

Thanks for holding.

Hello, Alex.

I'm a first-time caller.

I'm a huge fan.

I love your work.

I love you.