#1066: July 17, 2025

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Hello, Alex.

I'm a fish ten color over here today.

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Hey, everybody.

Welcome back to Knowledge Fight.

I'm Dan.

I'm Jordan.

We're a couple of dudes like to sit around, worship at the altar of Celine, and talk a little bit about Alex Jones.

Oh, indeed we are, Dan.

Jordan.

Dan.

Jordan.

Quick question for you.

What's up?

What's your bright spot today, buddy?

My bright spot today is not a bright spot, per se.

Okay.

But it's one of future promise.

Okay.

A potential bright spot in the future

that I have not had the time yet to look into, but I'm very excited about.

Okay.

So I don't know if you know this.

I don't.

But Popeye has become public domain.

Popeye, the character.

The Sailor Man.

Yes, okay.

And

I watched something on Amazon,

and they suggested that I watch some movie called like Popeye's Revenge.

All right.

People are able to make horror movies now just with Popeye.

Oh, I heard about that with like Winnie the Pooh.

I think they made one and stuff like that.

Not interested in Winnie the Pooh.

No.

But I am interested in Popeye.

Of course.

And I saw that there were like three or four of them.

Damn.

Yeah, people are cranking them out because this character is just public domain.

Why wouldn't you?

Yes.

So I'm going to watch all of them.

Okay.

I'm going to watch every single Popeye horror movie that these dumb mills can crank out.

I think what's funny about that is it never would have occurred to me, but now that I think about it, I think Popeye would be a great horror movie villain.

Those arms.

Those arms.

Like he eats spinach and then he pops your head clean off.

He was always so nice.

He's so not scary when he doesn't have spinach, spinach, though.

Yeah.

And I wonder how these horror movies are going to deal with that.

So, yeah, I'm very excited about watching this garbage.

I think they're going to be very bad,

but man, man, what a waste of creativity and resources.

Anyway.

Why?

Because it's there.

Right.

That's why humans do stuff.

Because it's technically legal now.

Thank you.

So what's your bright spot?

My bright spot is: we went and saw a movie.

That was a lot of fun.

Had some popcorn.

It was great.

Went to go see weapons.

Yeah, it was a great time.

It was an all right movie.

Yeah, it was fun.

You liked it less than I did.

Yeah, and afterwards, we were talking about it, and I worried that I might have yucked your yum a little bit or brought you down because you were more positive and I was a little more.

Yeah, I mean, I like to come out anytime I come out of a movie theater in general, I tend to love the movie, except for

the last

Skywalker.

Yeah, the Star Wars one.

That really bummed me out.

I've been fucked over by Star Wars in the movie theater

four

times.

Name them off.

Well, the prequels and then

the rise of Skywalker.

Okay.

Yeah.

Force Awakens, all right, serviceable.

And at a movie theater, great flick.

Did you see the special editions when they were re-released in theaters?

Oh, yeah.

You were disappointed of those?

No, of the four, five, and six.

Oh, yeah, of course.

So you weren't disappointed by those?

Fuck no.

I've seen four, five, and six more times than I can count.

But the special editions.

My very first actual Christmas gift that I loved was the three

VHS box

of Star Wars.

I remember that box.

Those I ate up.

I watched those so many times, even though they had that goddamn extra scene on Tatooine.

Right.

With the little bronosaurus guy.

That almost ruined it.

That almost ruined it for the whole movie.

I admire your positivity, and I like that you keep a bright attitude coming out of the movie.

I often do.

Yeah.

But yeah, I just, sometimes I'm like,

what am I doing here?

What was this?

And when we left that theater, I was in a, what was that, kind of mood?

No, I think that's fair.

I think that's totally fair.

I think it's just, it's got that different, for me, it's the difference between like a passive entertainment and an active entertainment.

If I'm at home, there's always a certain amount of passivity to it.

Like, oh,

I can go get something and or look at my phone for like five seconds or something like that.

Sure.

But a movie theater, I'm, I'm in.

I have to be.

I have chosen to do this, you know?

Yeah, there's more of an event element to it.

Yeah.

Although we did go, we went to the Alamo draft house, and it was a baby day screening.

The premise of that is insane.

Yeah.

That there's a baby day horror movie screening.

I don't know about this.

I don't have kids, and I don't know how to parent, so maybe I'm wrong about this, but it seems

I wouldn't want a kid in one of these movies.

I wouldn't understand it at all, but I mean, I guess the idea is that there are people at home with their babies who are like, if I stay inside for another five minutes, I am going to murder this entire world.

And I've got to go watch an upsetting movie.

That's what I got to do.

I got to take my baby.

So this is what we do now.

Yep.

Baby doesn't know enough to be upset.

That's, I mean, that

remains to be seen.

This baby doesn't know what plot holes?

I don't know how babies work.

Maybe later on, that'll be the thing.

Yeah.

And I want to say also, I recognize the hypocrisy of me being like, eh, on this movie and being also like, I can't wait to watch this shit with Popeye.

Popeye.

Nobody's saying that your movie reviewing

has to be anything.

It can be whatever you want it to be.

And eclectic, I think, is great.

Okay.

Yeah.

Well, thank you.

So I have a review to share with you

today.

And that is of an episode of Alex Jones' show.

Yeah.

How is it?

It's bad.

Ah, shit.

It's July 17th, 2025, in the ongoing saga of Trump really

fucking up his response to the Epstein

files.

Yep.

Last we left off, there was a demon.

The 16th was real tough because Trump had tweeted out, I don't want you as my fans anymore.

Go fuck yourselves.

Yep.

Yep.

And Alex had to deal with that on the fly.

But it's been a day.

You know, it's the 17th now.

Sure.

Now you've had time to process it.

You've gone home.

You've had dinner with some of your kids, presumably.

Rogers beat the shit out of you.

Rogers spent a long time on the phone with you.

Sharing weird pictures of him with dictators in foreign countries over the years.

How would you feel if this dictator I know talked to you for a second?

Yeah.

I know people.

I don't know.

I don't know what happens, but Alex's tone has changed a little bit.

Oh, okay.

And it's exciting to see how it's not.

It's bad.

But we'll get to that here in a second.

First, though, let's take a moment to say hello to some new walks.

That's a great idea.

So, first, been listening for a couple years now and love the show.

Also, Jordan, if you're enjoying the Magic the Gathering Final Fantasy crossover, I highly recommend trying the Final Fantasy TGC

TCG.

It's super fun and you can make decks around some of your favorite games.

Thank you so much, Joanna, Polseywonk.

I'm a policy wonk.

Thank you very much.

I looked into that because you brought it up, the Final Fantasy one.

I saw that there's a Spider-Man one coming.

Oh, yeah.

That sounds fun.

Yeah, Joe.

I might have to get some of them cards.

I mean, it's a Spider-Man crossover.

Get out of here.

Yeah.

Come on.

Next, Joe from London says his buddy Eric in South Carolina always knows what time it is when he wakes up.

Thank you so much, you're an awesome wonk.

I'm a policy wonk.

Thank you very much.

And Corinne, not Karen, the spirit of Dunkin' Donuts shining in the eyes of every child longing for deliciousness in Paragon City.

Thank you so much, Uranio Palsy Wonk.

I'm a policy wonk.

Thank you very much.

Thank you.

And we got a technocrat in the mix, Jordan.

So thank you so much to Sarah.

The globalists keep draining the fishing hole.

I don't know how it's nefarious yet, but together we can figure this out.

Extra love for my boy Socks.

Thank you so much.

You're an Iowa Technocrat.

I'm a policy wonk.

Four stars.

Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.

Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.

Daddy Shark.

Bomp, bomb, bump, bump, bump.

Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.

He's a loser, little, little kitty baby.

I don't want to hate black people.

I renounce Jesus Christ.

Thank you so much.

Thank you very much.

So on our last episode, we left off with Alex saying that like...

A year ago, Trump put on the ring of Sauron.

Right.

And then he started engaging with his masculine flesh too much.

Sure.

And a demon probably got in him, and now he's dark Trump.

Like the good guys.

Yeah, yeah.

And now you got to deal with that.

He's going to crush all of you guys.

He's just going to be dark Trump.

There's nothing you can do.

Yep.

So 24 hours later,

here's where we are on the 17th.

I really prayed about the Trump situation.

I've analyzed everything.

And I know exactly what's going on.

I know the truth.

And President Trump is telling the truth.

And I understand why he's enraged.

I've also talked to sources.

And I was so dumbstruck 12

days ago

by that memo and then knowing Trump was behind it,

and then his response saying, shut this down, stop investigating, without any clarity, and then coming out Sunday,

seven days later, and saying, no, no, they've had the file.

They filled it full of BS, Brennan, Clapper, Comey.

Of course, that's who controlled the file.

And that totally makes sense and is true.

That's their M.O.

That's all they do.

But Trump has done a F minus.

I mean, my God, it's worse than an F.

I mean, it's like a zero on the Streisand affecting and not having clarity and flip-flopping back and forth.

It's just been horrifying.

But that said, I've had a lot of clarity last night and this morning.

And I have some congressional reports out.

They've now saved over 30,000 children in sex slavery and slave labor.

You only hear about it here and there because under law, they can't reveal

three-year-olds, 10-year-olds, 15-year-olds because they're juveniles.

But when you see the raid on the big pot farm, and now it's 14 kids, some as young as eight, working in slave labor and God knows what,

you're able to learn about that little window because they attacked them with clubs and guns, shot at them, and cinder blocks, smashing out their SUV windows, attempted murder.

So, just the day before this, Trump had posted on Truth Social that he didn't want the support of people who were still talking about Jeffrey Epstein.

That's not a bad handling of a breaking story or unclear communication.

Like, Alex is trying to present this as a PR debacle.

Right, right, right.

That's not what this is.

This is a lunatic lashing out against the lunatics he's corralled into a fan base.

Sure.

Yesterday, it looked like Trump had put on the one ring after getting shot in Butler, and he'd gotten too absorbed in raw masculine power that it created, which made him susceptible to a demon taking over his mind and body.

But today, Alex has prayed about it, and I guess everything's fine.

What this indicates to me is that he thinks that things are just going to go back to normal.

In the past 10 days, since the FBI memo came out, Alex has been trying to figure out what the best positioning was for him, and what narrative was going to allow him to straddle the line between not pissing off Trump and Roger and saving face with the save the children crowd.

Needed to serve both of those interests.

The way he's talking here makes you think that he's decided that it's safe to downplay this, and he's banking on being able to pacify the Epstein child trafficking hardliners by appealing to the ideas that Trump and ICE are saving all these children from slavery.

Yeah.

The pot farm bus that Alex is talking about is a really complicated case, and I think that it absolutely shouldn't have happened like it did, but I don't mean to say that there wasn't any potential wrongdoing, especially from like a labor front on the farm's part.

The raids were carried out on two farm locations run by Glass House, the largest legal weed growers in California.

In the ensuing chaos, a man trying to run from ICE fell from a roof and died.

Around 360 people were detained, including four U.S.

citizens.

When immigration agents showed up to the farm, they were met by protesters who were a separate group from the workers who were being targeted by ICE.

Alex is exaggerating the violence involved, but there are reports of things like protesters kicking a can of gas back at the officers who threw it at them, and an allegation that someone fired a gun.

Whatever the case is here, this was not violence being carried out by immigrants, which ICE is then responding to with violence.

The law enforcement are the instigators of the violence in this confrontation.

In the raid, the police found 10 minors, but it's unclear what that means.

The children may have been the offspring of people who worked at the farm who couldn't afford daycare for their kids.

We don't know what the specifics are here, but it would be unwise to assume that they were all child laborers.

There's also another sticky issue here, which is that the BBC reported Customs and Border Patrol saying that the youngest minor they found was 14.

In California, it's legal for people to work in agricultural jobs over the age of 12, which is something Alex has been very in favor of in the past.

His position has always been that in the country, you start work early as a way of life, and laws that prohibit that are meant to be attacks on the rural community.

However, even though it's legal for 14-year-olds to work in agricultural settings in California, you have to be 21 or older to work on a cannabis farm.

And so that still could be an issue.

But it gets even messier because the glasshouse farm in question was their location in Camarillo, California.

According to the Associated Press, when they bought that farm, there were six greenhouses there that were used for tomatoes and cucumbers.

Quote, to date, two of the greenhouses have been converted to grow cannabis.

Workers' relatives said tomatoes are still being grown in other greenhouses at the location.

The point is that we don't know if these 10 miners were even working at this farm, and if they were, it's possible that they were employed in a capacity that people their age in California can legally be employed in.

I'm not saying that there's no problem here, just that the problem is more of a workers' rights issue than an immigration one, just on its face.

And ICE raid doesn't do shit to address whatever underlying problems may exist from a labor perspective on that farm.

But Alex knows that Trump has made himself really vulnerable to accusations that he's covering up child trafficking.

And no matter what the people in the media try to say, Trump will not stop making it worse.

Alex can't spin any of that shit that he's doing, so he needs to change the conversation entirely.

Sure, Trump is acting super weird about this Epstein stuff, but did you see that raid on a pot farm?

It's not going to work, but it's a decent attempt at misdirection.

And you see on this episode a pretty heavy interest in that.

Misdirect, redirect these feelings and the attention that people have.

Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, you have to, because the only option other than that is the right one, which is to say, I'm out.

Yep.

You know, like when your only option is to say I'm out, then you make up a story that helps you say the other.

Yep.

You know, and I, I mean, it's

regular behavior that we all engage in very often.

So I think it's fine.

Except for, you know, it's horrifying.

Yeah, it's ridiculous for Alex,

a guy who's fighting the devil and shit.

There's such a clear choice to make, and he just refuses to make the one choice.

I mean, it's just like, hey, like,

I work at the library, and I've got a bad supervisor.

That sucks, but you'll probably be fine.

No big deal.

This motherfucker, you're supposed to be fighting the goddamn devil.

You're the tip of the spear.

Yeah, is the war with the devil just something that, like, yeah, we'll get used to it.

I don't think you can do that.

I don't think you can operate that way, and that's clearly what he wants to do.

I mean, there is to be more on the other side, on the other hand, maybe there's something very deep about this.

This war between the devil and God has been going on for a while.

You know, probably

going to keep going long after you're dead.

So calm it down.

Relax about it.

Oh, the devil's doing stuff.

He's always getting up to stuff.

Sure.

Yeah.

Sure.

I'm fine if that's your take.

That's not Alex's name.

If that were consistent, if he had a laissez-faire take on the devil.

What are you going to do with this devil?

He's coming.

Yeah.

If that had been his long-standing position, then I'd be like, hey, cool, man.

That is what you're all about.

That would be a different show, though, I imagine.

So Alex has come to the conclusion that Trump, he's more good than bad.

The point is, is that

they are doing so much good dismantling the deep state

and all the rest of it that I just find it impossible not to back Trump.

I'm going to be very critical of him when he's doing wrong, but I just cannot throw the baby out with the bathwater.

And that's where I stand.

So that's where he stands.

That's a pretty clear position.

Yeah, I mean,

I don't think I would ever want to say that out loud.

Yeah.

It's impossible for me to change.

It's a really fucked up thing to say out loud, let alone truly believe.

It seems like what he's saying is that there's no situation where he's not going to make excuses.

Yeah, I am going to walk in on Trump having sex with my wife, and I'm going to say, sir,

I would like to ask you to leave, please.

And I'll see you next year.

Not even that.

Yeah.

Sir, you have proved that.

Go fuck my wife.

Sir, you have proved that my wife is a bombshell because you only fuck bombshells.

Right, there you go.

Right.

It's a, frankly, it's an honor.

Yes.

It's an honor.

And he should also have prima nocte for my daughters.

I think that makes perfect sense.

So, like, I think that Alex's primary issue is exploiting fears and sensationalizing abuse against children.

Sure.

Like, in order to fuel a lot of this propaganda and conspiracy narratives, that's central for him.

And if he's willing to just be like, hey, Trump told us to shut up about this and he called us stupid,

if you're going to not throw that bathwater out,

there's not a baby in there.

That's just shitty bathwater.

Nope.

You're fucked.

Yeah.

Yep.

There's no hope.

So, look,

it's about power, really.

Yeah, I think it actually is.

Yes.

Yes.

Yes, I do.

I'm going to say this very clearly and very succinctly that I'm going to unpack it.

The American people

want firings

and indictments

of the globalist deep state operatives.

Now, we've already seen more of that than we've ever seen in modern history.

Where?

And we've already seen on the big, broad-brush things with policy Trump's got like the border and trade

and pulling us out of the WHO and so much more.

We've seen bold, dramatic, amazing, spectacular developments.

And I have to balance that on the scales and then look at the bad stuff Trump's doing.

And nine times out of ten,

when something evil is put in a bill and we expose it, it's pulled and it wasn't Trump.

And that's why they want this broadcast off the air and others like it, because they know as a populist movement, we are more powerful than all the corporate media combined.

And we're now able to control the agenda.

When they had the U.N.

treaty legislation in the spending bill,

when President Trump was just president-elect,

pressure shot that down.

A few weeks ago, when the BBB, they had the majority votes to put in an AI dictatorship for 10 years above the law.

It got shot down and voted down 99 to 1.

Now they've got the Genius Act that's got a central bank digital currency

pathway in it that Trump says he opposes.

We'll shoot that down.

So the point is, we've got traction.

We're winning.

If you're keeping score, what Alex is saying is that working with the devil is okay if it makes you win more.

If you get what you want, then it doesn't really matter if you cover up sex trafficking in order to enable it.

You'll notice this with folks like Alex, where when they're in opposition to the main institutional power structure, they're all about principle.

Shit is very simple, and red lines are super easy to draw because they don't really matter.

Ron Paul can make all kinds of demands based on principle, and then when nothing gets done, everyone can just move along.

But when they're close to power, that reliance on principle gets replaced by a lot of ends justify the means rhetoric, a lot of you have to take the rough with the smooth kind of talk.

This happens because once the people they feel close to are in undeniable power, those red lines actually start to matter.

When Trump's supposed to have Kosh Patel release the Epstein stuff on day one, there's no real reason for that not to happen.

When Ron Paul wanted to abolish the Federal Reserve, everyone knew that wasn't happening and he didn't have the power to get it done.

But now, all of the right people have the power that they're supposed to have in order to achieve the promised result.

They have to shift to this kind of approach because if they stayed with the principled angle, they would have to alienate themselves from their perceived closeness to power.

The Alex that was supposed to have existed for the last 30 years would never accept this kind of thing from a politician.

Trump literally said that people who still cared about Epstein were stupid on TV.

Alex, like, it's, it can't be more of a, like, you suck than that.

We like to imagine that the old Alex would never have put up with that.

But in reality, I strongly suspect that if Roger Stone had thought Alex was a worthwhile investment in 2000, there's a good chance Alex would never have been a Bush did 9-11 guy.

Like, I don't, I don't think it's crazy to think that, like, he never would have gone down the 9-11 route

if someone had just made him think Bush liked him.

No, the only way to become something that Roger Stone could use is to fake it until they're ready for you.

And then you get the job.

Build up your thing, and then you get called in.

You have to build up your whole persona, and then when that persona is useful to somebody in power to lie with, bang.

There you go.

And in 2000, it absolutely wasn't.

No, nobody needed that shit.

No.

No.

He seemed like a volatile weirdo on public access then all of a sudden out of nowhere there's a 9-11 and then an iraq war and then a black president

popularity shoots to the moon

weird

so you gotta take you gotta balance this stuff sure the stuff that trump's really good about and the working with the devil thing do you apparently interesting you have to put them on the scales and see what happens and everyone else wants you to have like 2d thinking about this sure but Alex will not fall into that trap.

I refuse

to be a dimwit.

I refuse to engage in one-dimensional and two-dimensional thinking.

I could oppose bad things Trump's doing all day long and try to get him back on track.

Okay.

While at the same time supporting the overwhelmingly good things he's doing.

Can you?

So many people, and this way the corporate media does it, want to make it a black and white issue or a left and right issue, or you're either totally doing whatever Trump says, or

you're a traitor, or if you do, if you support anything Trump does, you're bad.

And that's why stuff with Trump coming out over and over again the last week: don't question Epstein, or you're with the Democrats, and you're an idiot, and I'm done with you, and we don't want you in our movement.

People say, Well, he didn't write that true social post, and then he goes out in press conferences and says basically the exact same thing.

That is horrible.

But then out of the other side of his mouth, oh, they're going to appoint a special prosecutor, probably Ed Martin.

Great.

On the Epstein thing.

And so my frustration is the handling of this.

When Trump came out Sunday, seven days in and went, Comey, Brennan, and Clapper all had this file for decades.

They filled it full of disinformation.

It's another Russia hoax.

Because Trump didn't know, yeah, we're going to release it.

They go rate it.

Democrats wouldn't turn it over, but they probably leaked on themselves.

They get it, and there's a bunch of unsubstantiated crap in there.

Guaranteed it'll be the five Jane Does that all turned out to be fake saying Trump raped them and stuff.

Turned out those were all fake.

It's guaranteed FBI files on that.

That's what it is.

And I've been thinking that the last four or five days, and I made some calls, and people go, How do you know this?

We're not going to confirm that to you, but how the hell do you know that?

So

that's it.

And it's not hard to know that.

What did they try before?

What did they do before?

Alex is really screwing himself over with this narrative, and he doesn't seem to realize or care.

Like, if the globalists can manipulate the Epstein files to try to set up Trump, then why couldn't the Trump people manipulate them to set up Democrats?

If some piece of evidence ever does get produced about, like, let's say, Bill Gates, why should anyone take it seriously?

Alex has just invalidated the font from which this comes.

Now that I'm hearing you ask some very basic questions, I can understand now why Trump said, don't ask any more questions.

Right.

That makes sense.

They're really tough.

You don't want to answer them.

And what Alex is doing, I believe, is a move in the direction of nihilism.

And I think it's counterproductive for someone in Alex's position.

It's gratifying in the short term to get him out of this bind with Trump being really suspicious about Epstein, but it doesn't have legs.

So it's a gamble that depends on people moving on from the Epstein stuff.

If the base moves on, then Alex can play this game and move on too.

But if they don't, Trump keeps saying this indefensible stuff, then Alex is boxing himself into a position where he has to make excuses for that indefensible stuff Trump is saying.

It would be far better for him to bail because

what has a potential to happen after this point is like

Ghylaine Maxwell going to another

cushy prison.

Love it.

Right.

How is he going to spend that?

By having a lot of fun.

Right.

And going to the prison with her.

Trump's saying that Epstein stole one of his victims.

I don't, you know.

What's he going to do?

Here's what's fun.

Here's what's fun about the little things that these guys reveal because they're stupid, right?

If your problem is with his handling of this, right?

Then your problem is he either didn't lie right or didn't lie enough.

Or both.

Or both.

Two people

who they nominally like.

By handling it, what they mean is your base will continue to like you, right?

So if you tell the truth and your base does not like you,

then you're saying that handling is only successful if it's a good lie.

So you're saying, I don't like how they handle this, is saying, I wish these people would lie to these idiots better.

Yeah.

That's how we operate.

That's a big chunk of it.

Right?

And then also, there is a

sort of problematic thing where, like,

this is not really out of the ordinary for Trump.

Like Alex is saying, the handling of it is a problem.

This is how he handles a lot of shit.

He just lashes out and calls people losers.

How does it not occur to you that it is an insult to your friends to say that they are being handled appropriately?

Oh, he's handling you.

You're not smart enough to see through his bullshit.

He is handling you appropriately.

Yeah, he usually just doesn't yell at you.

Yeah.

And you're getting yelled at now.

Yep.

So

why does he make me look stupid?

Because you are.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So what do you think about that P-tape?

The old P-tape that we remember from the past,

the one that seems fairly likely to be at least basically true.

See, this is the issue that I have.

I don't think I've ever really fully doubted that it's possible.

Yeah.

That exists.

It's more important that I'm not...

like doubting it.

That's what's more important.

Whether it exists or not means nothing.

It's that it could.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I'm not going to stake a solid position on yay or nay on it.

Yeah.

But I will say that listening to this clip made me think, oh, it's probably real.

I think Alex is convincing me.

Oh, no.

Long before they tried to implicate Trump in all this crap, I know a lot of people that know him, including Roger Stone, and I asked him about New York Times articles in the 90s.

And I talked to people that are very close to Trump.

And I already knew Trump's proclivities.

I'm sorry.

And Trump

actually, this is a big secret.

secret.

About 15 years ago, he actually went and did operant conditioning training for a while.

I don't know the details to be able to shake people's hands

because he's such a germaphobe neat freak.

And

you can look that up.

It's come out before he was in political that he was a germaphobe.

And I learned his proclivities.

Let's just leave it from that from a lot of people.

And the type of women he likes, and all of it, and what he does.

So

I research people before I get behind them.

And so, yes, it's absolute, total crap.

Yeah, Donald Trump's going to land in Moscow or St.

Petersburg and go to a hotel and have women he doesn't even know piss on him.

Yeah.

When

Trump instructs his, you know, tells his wives and he's in a divorce girlfriends, you got your side of the house, you got your bathroom.

I don't want any, you know,

I knew this before they ever said the piss thing.

Trump doesn't like his wife or anybody to, you know, because you're married, your wife will sit down and take a piss in front of you.

I'll piss in front of my wife.

But Trump is so, Trump is so neat freak, he doesn't want to see his wife.

That's like, I don't want to see you in the bathroom.

So they come out with he wants to be peed on.

He's the complete opposite.

He loves golden furniture and crisp golf courses and has

his staff sit

and steam and vacuum his suit on the airplane while he's writing memos.

The guy washes his hands like 50 times a day.

But no, he's being pissed on.

So your argument about why Trump can't be weird about piss is because he's weird about piss.

Yeah.

Yeah.

See, whenever people have an extreme reaction to something, there's no way that sometimes sexually that can turn into the opposite of such.

It's something that can happen.

No, I don't think so.

It's not a one-to-one.

It's not always the case, but it definitely can happen.

I'm fascinated by Alex's need to be like, he's scared of pee.

He doesn't think he would like to see a pee.

You're missing...

the whole problem with the tape.

Yeah.

Nobody's problem is the pee.

I'm fine with the pee.

Sure.

Pee on people.

Whatever.

If that's your thing, great.

Yeah.

You can't look online for longer than an hour without seeing somebody pee on somebody else.

That's just a fact.

Ooh, that might be.

I mean, hey, listen.

That might be your.

Hey, listen.

I'm just saying.

You can't spend an hour online Googling pigs.

This is what I'm doing.

Handling people appropriately.

Yeah, no,

it's a handling issue.

Yeah.

Trump's handling that.

And Alex is handling this poorly.

And the way that you're talking about it isn't like, hey, man,

if it gets peed on, it gets peed on.

No big deal.

Here's a problem.

He's doing it in a random Moscow hotel and he might become the president someday.

That's an issue.

But even if there's no pee, even if it's just regular sex, that's still an issue.

Yeah, I guess.

I don't even really care

about any of it.

No, I agree.

I just think that it's fascinating that Alex can't not care.

Right.

Like, he can't just be like, are we, like, let's not talk about this dumb piss tape anymore.

Exactly.

He has to have these elaborate explanations and secret information about

Trump and what he does with his wives.

Also, seriously, there's only two ways that I know a person

occasionally likes to be peed on.

And that's if when I ask them, hey, do you occasionally like to be peed on?

They go, yeah.

Or they go, no, never, not once.

In fact,

I'd love the opposite of being peed on.

Being peed on sounds disgusting to me.

I can't think of anything growls are like, wait, peed on.

Yeah, to me, this

Alex has made me more suspicious.

Yeah.

And that's great.

He's doing his job.

So, you know, this is a guy who hates

federal law of enforcement.

Sure.

He's a state's rights guy.

Right.

He's super into the, he's against the police state.

Right.

Unless they're slave catchers.

Yeah, kind of.

And if they have quotas and Trump is in charge.

I mean, that's great.

I look at that and I look at a 96% drop in smuggling across the border.

They basically cut it off.

I'm really blown away that it's that successful.

Very impressive.

I mean, these federal agents are not sitting around playing ping-pong or eating donuts.

And I'm told, and I've seen it from my sources, that they are just

18-hour days, maximum output, guzzling energy drinks, just operating on testosterone and adrenaline.

And because Trump has told them through their bosses, you got quotas, you do it, or you're fired.

You get massive arrests and massive kids saved.

You get bonuses, you get promotions, you get overtime, you get everything.

So, I mean, you watch these raids.

I've seen them outside the office, ran into one a few weeks ago.

I mean, these feds are just running around like hunting dogs, grabbing.

I mean, it's, it's, I mean, it's,

I mean, this is what you're supposed to see going on.

Is it?

Real energy.

So,

I mean, I drove in the office like two weeks ago.

I told the story.

I didn't want to get out in the middle of it.

And I mean, I'm talking 300 yards from the door to the office.

They got

a Fed vehicle, and then you got a state police that are backing them up, and

the feds are wearing masks, and they're literally running back and forth, and they're packing like six people out of the back of this truck,

king cab truck,

and they're illegal, you know, it looks like illegal alien males.

And the feds, because I pulled over the parking lot and watched them for about five minutes,

were just running back and forth and just checking them.

It was like they were sped up or something.

You know, like you watch those kung fu movies and they speed up the fighting.

I was just like, good God,

running around like piranhas.

So I don't know what they're giving them.

So

this is a change.

The bad guys hate Trump.

That sounds awful.

That all sounds very awful.

I never want to hear about Waco again for as long as I live.

Go fuck yourself.

Yeah.

Based on what you're saying, all of those people could have been shot in the head and you wouldn't give a fuck.

You shouldn't.

Yeah.

Fuck off.

If you're all right with this, I mean, that's absurd.

Yeah.

Alex's, like, his telling of this story is like.

They look like illegals.

Yeah.

That's the only evidence you have to justify why them being treated like piranhas is okay.

That is you're telling on yourself.

Everyone

like this, but this is the problem with the past.

The past is a real piece of shit like this because things that are true also work retroactively.

Like everything

that everybody ever said about the fucking bundies doesn't count anymore.

Go fuck yourselves because this shit is true.

And if this shit is true now, then it's true retrospectively.

Yeah, and you are always fine with this blast.

You are one, I don't know who would be an example of this, but someone who really, really cared about the Bundies and now is aggressively opposed to this.

Must be something.

If that person exists, then I see that.

Yeah, you have more power to you for following.

You've got consistency, and good for you.

Follow through is at this point in time, honestly, even if it's not great, follow through seems better than whatever it is I'm dealing with.

All of these fucks doing.

Yeah, it's impressive in its own way.

Yeah.

So Alex is like, he's

trying to get to this place where everything is fine.

Yeah.

Trump's cool now.

Yeah.

And I think he's kind of saying on air, like, hey, Trump, thanks for clearing this up.

Oh, my God.

Thanks for giving us talking points.

Oh, my God.

I said this last week.

I said, you know, they really indict the globalist and

keep shaming the kids and all that and keep the border shut down.

In the aggregate, it's

thousands of times, 100,000 times bigger than Epstein's intelligence operation.

If for whatever reason,

they don't have the resources or it's old cases or whatever,

people aren't going to buy it, but I understand it.

I understand the thinking.

But for God's sakes, don't tell us that it never existed and these aren't the droids you're looking for.

Move along.

Just please.

You cannot

say something worse to make everybody think you're guilty, Mr.

President.

And I know you're pissed off.

Well, thank God you started telling us on Sunday, oh, no, it's Brennan, it's Clapper, it's Comey, which did control the fouling record.

That's already known.

And of course, they would do something like that.

I mean, I don't even think it's a question.

Of course, they did.

Alex is effectively just thanking Trump for telling him what to say.

After a rocky start of a few days, Trump gave Alex something that he could work with when he lashed out against crooked Hillary.

And Alex thinks that this is good enough to work.

Another interesting thing here is that Alex is trying to make a deal with the audience.

If they can just ignore this, quite literally.

Yeah, if they can just look the other way on this, then everyone gets to pretend that Trump is solving an even bigger evil problem.

And maybe in the end, that balances out.

Doesn't it?

Yeah.

Doesn't the imaginary ultimately trump the other imaginary?

It certainly does.

And so I think that Alex is like, okay,

Trump, you could have, like, if there was message discipline, we could have just gone with this from the start and we could have solved a lot of problems.

Instead, you had to be a dick.

I mean,

that's one of the things that they fucking, they love that shit of like that 40 chests and stuff like this.

And it's like, man, sometimes it's just either the truth or not true.

There are sometimes the messaging is less important than if he'd just gone, here it is.

Right?

And if he doesn't go, here it is, that is an answer that's more important than anything that you might think about handling it.

Yeah, and I think even on top of that, a little hat to put on top of that, is if he's like, hey, you're stupid for asking questions about this,

that goes beyond the

doing it or not.

Yeah, I wouldn't have done that one.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Fucking mess.

That's bad handling.

So there's big news out of the HHS, Department of Health and Human Services.

They've hired everybody back and they exist again?

Nah.

Oh, shit.

You've got Kennedy purging the big government

corporate-run Pfizer, Eli Lilly,

Johnson ⁇ Johnson boards, putting in patriots and real scientists.

You've got him firing more people today that are globalist.

We'll be getting to that.

Maha Shakub, HHS Secretary Arm King Jr., fires two top staffers and appoints new acting chief of staff.

It's on.

So that's a great headline for Alex, but it's not true.

Kennedy did fire two people that day, but they were his chief of staff and deputy chief of staff for policy.

These were Heather Flick Mellinson and Hannah Anderson, respectively, and neither of them were big pharma plants in the department.

They were directly hired by Kennedy himself in January.

At the time of her appointment, Politico reported that Mellinson's choice as chief of staff for HHS was an indication that Trump was looking to keep an eye on what Kennedy was up to, because she's a Trump loyalist.

She worked at the HHS in Trump's first term, so it was generally understood that she was a proxy to make sure that Kennedy didn't go too far far off script and do things that were actually threatening to the business interests that support Trump.

Hannah Anderson was also a Trump loyalist and generally just a staunch anti-abortion activist.

No one really has an issue with Kennedy firing or replacing these people that he's hired.

He has the right to staff his office how he sees fit.

But the reason that this is even a headline is because he fired two highly positioned people in the department, and some of the circumstances around it could look like it signifies a break between Trump and Kennedy.

Sure.

And the media loves to report on that kind of stuff.

Love it.

And so that's why this is a headline.

Alex is, he knows nothing about this.

He's reading a headline and telling a story.

Yeah, that's ridiculous.

And part of that is because he's confusing this with news from a month prior when Kennedy fired the whole advisory committee for immunization practices and replaced them with dipshits like Robert Malone.

Sure.

So he's kind of just assuming this is more of the same.

I mean, it's a fair assumption.

In his minimal defense, it is a fair assumption that when you see one of these people firing somebody, it's for some made-up dumb reason.

Yeah, and you can pass it off as like, oh, he's firing more globalists.

Yeah, he got him.

They're because of autism.

Yep.

Go to sleep, audience.

I'm handling you.

Yeah.

Yep.

I'm handling you by telling you everyone's a globalist.

You guys are the smart people who can see through all the bullshit, and now I'm going to lie directly to your faces.

Yeah.

So Alex talks about child labor and

how the New York Times even had to come out and talk about it.

They did it as a cover-up.

They talked about it, but it was a cover-up.

Okay.

Remember three years ago, the New York Times, just to cover its ass, did a couple big reports with thousands of children as young as nine, on average 14,

in

tire factories, cereal factories, grain processing factories, textile plants,

and nothing against the North and places like Michigan and Illinois, but

notice you don't ever see this in the South.

Just because there's still Christian values, and there's some of it, but not much.

It's in Illinois.

It's in Michigan.

It's in California.

And, you know, and they're raping these kids, too.

And they're not even in school.

They're sleeping on mats.

So

if there's anything that the South is famous for, it is not exploiting labor.

No.

That is

the number one thing I think of.

When I think of the South, I think, whoo, good thing those people never exploited people.

Christian values.

Christian values.

So the New York Times has actually done a ton of articles about companies exploiting child labor, in many cases, immigrant children who were made to work in dangerous conditions.

It's not just in the North where people have abandoned Christian values.

It's a long-standing, disgusting trend that's been allowed to go on because addressing the problem would involve punishing big businesses, and that goes against American values.

Paying people decent wages will attract qualified and appropriate workers to fill the jobs you need filled, but that also cuts down on profits.

So you can get around that by getting a ton of your labor from subcontracting companies who technically are the ones who are the employers of these people, who are then being leased to you to do work.

You get someone to fill your position, and you get to have plausible deniability if the people working in your factory aren't legally allowed to work.

Therefore, you protect yourself from any of the consequences, you insulate the business.

Wild how that very obvious thing you're doing somehow still works.

Yeah, Republican lawmakers are strongly behind allowing this to continue, and one of the harsher examples of this is Sarah Huckabee Sanders, governor of Arkansas and Trump's former press secretary, signing a bill in 2023 that got rid of the requirement for children under 16 to get a worker's permit to get a job.

That requirement forced employers to verify a worker's age and make sure that their parents signed off on them working, but the GOP in Arkansas just got rid of that.

So to put it as simply as possible, Alex is a full-fledged supporter of the team that is actively pushing for more

child labor.

And

he can do all this sensational shit around it that he wants, but his policies and the people he supports will lead to far more child labor exploitation.

See, now this is what you say, but the man wants to bring back coal mines.

Are you telling me that there's a risk of exploiting children in small, tight spaces like that?

Uh-huh.

Oh, my God.

That's crazy.

Now, next thing you know, we're going to have a bunch of looms eating children.

Yeah, boy.

Yeah,

I just don't know how to put it any more simply.

He gets his way.

There will be a lot of kids who are working in dangerous conditions.

Who needs fingers when you're nine?

Right.

Yeah.

You know what?

It's the nanny state.

It's the nanny state.

You're totally right.

So one of the issues that Alex clearly is trying to move attention

from Trump's Epstein stuff over to

is the California fires.

Sure.

And the rebuilding effort on that.

The article's up on Infowars.com with the video from John Bowen.

Another conspiracy theory comes true.

California bill passes to buy fire ravage palisades for low-income apartments and pay you a fraction of what your property is worth.

They have issued, get ready for this, out of

tens of thousands of homes destroyed, less than 10 permits to rebuild.

But you remember the press conference

back in

January, late January, right when Trump got in with the communist mayor,

she's a communist, worked for Cuba, intelligence agent, Bass.

And people say, we haven't been given permits.

We need to be able to get in there.

And she goes, oh, you'll get permits this week.

They've issued

eight permits.

The bill that they're talking about doesn't do what Alex and John Bowen are claiming.

It includes a provision for the county of L.A.

to purchase lots at a fair price and rebuild stuff that's in the public interest, like infrastructure or possibly affordable housing.

No one has to sell their lots, and I'm not saying that this isn't something that could be taken advantage of.

And, you know, it's...

It's not necessarily a good thing, but it's not what Alex is describing.

Sure.

Where they're just going to buy up your shit.

Sure.

From an NBC Los Angeles article published on July 8th, the county had received 1,207 requests to rebuild, but they'd only issued 90 permits at that time.

In that clip, Alex cited two completely incorrect numbers because he's just making this shit up.

Right.

10 permits and then 8 a little bit later.

Yeah, it's about the same.

So that number, the 90 out of 1,207, that only reflects the requests made to unincorporated LA County.

The LA Department of Building and Safety had received 360 requests and approved 70.

In an effort to make this process move more quickly, Gavin Newsom exempted fire building projects, the rebuilding projects from the fire.

He exempted them from the 2025 building code standards, only requiring that they follow the 2022 code, but it's still taking like 50 days for permits to be approved, which is too long, but it's also not nearly what Alex is saying.

It sucks, and I'm sure that I don't know what the answer is to make it go more quickly, but I'm confident that it's not just lying about the situation in order to build conspiracy theories to distract the audience from Trump's mishandling of Augustine.

But like, it's nuts.

Those numbers are from

nine days before this episode that Alex is recording.

He's just making shit up.

Yeah.

You know what you could do?

And here's what I've learned from the movie Weapons.

All right.

Find a rich person's house.

Maybe brainwash them, maybe not.

Not important.

But you can fit a bunch of people in the basement.

Just go live in the basement.

You don't have a home, right?

Those rich people probably don't even live there.

It's probably empty.

Go live in their basement.

I don't think that people were living comfortably in that basement.

I mean, you know, but I mean, you got 50 days to wait for the permit, so it's better than

okay.

You know?

Sure.

Yeah.

Maybe that's what the movie was about.

I think that's what the movie was about.

If these kids need a place to stay, keep them in the basement.

It makes sense so alex is he's really trying to move the focus over to uh the communist mayor of la

yeah uh not letting anyone rebuild um and he remembered that press conference yeah in the last clip okay and so he has uh one of the producers pull it up all right and i think it's pretty interesting okay but see it's the perfect crime drain the reservoir don't send the fire trucks that night they said we didn't send extra fire trucks we send them the next morning that's on record

and everything else they did not trimming the brush brush for years, the fire department begging for it, cutting the fire department, putting DEI people, they're totally incompetent in charge.

So know what's going on.

And then administratively burning that sucker to the ground.

And then I said he's going to appoint a task force, them at the head.

He's a declared disaster.

He's above the law.

And they're going to build compact, 15-minute city, high-rises, 200-square-foot coffin apartments, because that's in the UNESG.

And now it's all been announced.

Exactly as I said.

Here is the clip back from six months ago.

Her with Trump saying, Yeah, we're going to give you the permits right away.

And of course, it was all a lie.

Here it is.

We're bringing our city departments together so that people don't get caught in the loop of going from one room to the next.

We want them all to be in the same room so that you can get busy rebuilding ASAP.

We have to clear the lots.

Absolutely.

We have to clear the lots.

Yes.

Yes.

And we will clear the lots.

Absolutely.

In the city and in the county.

We are working together.

Both levels of government are working in unity.

Is it not 18 months?

Is it like we that's the answer that we got, and that's what we're all hanging on.

Yes.

So if you're telling us now faster, is it six months?

Is it, I mean, all of our lives, rents, all this stuff is

weighing on this.

Six months is no good.

And the number one thing that we are going to do immediately, and you will see this happen, is to clear out the debris.

And you know, we're concerned right now over the weekend because of the potential rain, but we are going to move as fast as we can, but we want you to be safe and we want you to be back in your homes immediately.

But the people are willing to clean out their own debris.

It doesn't matter.

And they can.

You should let them do it because by the time you hire contractors, it's going to be two years.

If a family

member

can do it themselves and clean it out.

And they can do it.

There's not that much left.

It's all incinerated.

That's right.

And, you know, it's just going to take a long time.

You can do some of it, but a lot of these people, I know that guy right there that's talking.

I know my people.

You'll be on that thing tonight, throwing the stuff away and your site will be, it'll look perfect within 24 hours, and that's what he wants to do.

He doesn't want to wait around for seven months till the city hires some demolition contract that's going to charge him

$25,000 to do his lot.

I think you have to, you have emergency powers just like I do and I'm exercising my emergency powers.

You have to exercise them also.

I did exercise them because I looked, I mean, you have a very powerful emergency power and you can do everything within 24 hours.

Yes.

And if individuals want to clear out their property, they can.

Yes, but you know that you will be able to go back soon.

Mr.

President.

We think within a week.

That's a long time a week.

I'll be honest.

To me, everyone's standing in front of their house.

They want to go to work and they're not allowed to do it.

And the most important

people to be safe.

They're safe.

They're safe.

You know what?

They're not safe.

They're not safe now.

So Alex thought that clip was Trump and L.A.

Mayor Bass arguing about how long it was going to take to get permits to rebuild after the fire, but it was actually about the speed with which people could begin clearing debris.

The reason that I think this clip is really important is because how Trump's mind shifts and the argument changes because he's a baby who's throwing a tantrum.

Bass is discussing the timetable and logistics for when properties will be cleared so people can return to their homes.

And Trump first tries to pick a fight about how people just want to clean up the debris themselves.

They don't want to wait for the government to do it for them.

They're good, hard-working people who just want to roll their sleeves up.

Bass tries to calmly explain to him that people can do that if they want.

They don't have to rely on the city or the county to remove the debris, but as it turns out, of the 12,048 properties destroyed in the fire, the owners of 9,873 of them decided to rely on the government's public cleanup program.

1,982 chose to do the cleanup themselves, and nothing was stopping them from making that choice.

However, in the immediate aftermath of the fires, people were not allowed to go back to their homes, largely because of very easy-to-understand safety risks.

In the moment, Trump has lashed out and whined about how people should be allowed to clean up their own lots and not rely on the government, and Bass has tried to explain to him that they can.

She's like a teacher trying to deal with a child who's angry about a non-existent problem.

Trump instinctively knows that he's lost to this point and he looks dumb, but he's also still angry, so he can't just say, okay, well, I'm glad everyone can choose whether or not to clean up their own property.

He has to wait for the next thing that Bass says and complain about that and pretend that that was the thing that he was really mad about.

This is a huge part of Trump's allure and part of what he and Alex share, which is the steadfast refusal to acknowledge being wrong and the will to just keep talking.

It's all about momentum.

It almost doesn't matter what he's saying to Bass, but folks like Alex will just see this and celebrate the fact that he kept being a dick to her.

He didn't let being wrong keep him down.

He just still kept punching.

Yep.

And what's most important is that she gave up.

Yeah, or acted like an adult.

Like, you know.

Up to her.

Yeah.

No, but like, I think in the moment, a lot of people probably would not be able to really even recognize that, like,

I have made my point.

You have made a dumb rebuttal.

and we're talking about something else now.

Like, we've moved on from this point, but you're pretending that we're still in the same argument.

Yep.

Like, most,

I think someone in Bass's position probably is used to dealing with

people who are operating as adults.

Yeah, I mean, this isn't.

But, I mean, that's why they lost.

That's why everybody lost.

That's it.

So, I mean, I guess keep doing it.

I guess the alternative is you just have to treat babies like adults.

I guess.

Well, not literal babies, but metaphor babies, Trump babies.

Anyway, this episode takes a turn for the worse.

Sounds right.

Alex has a guest who's going to be coming up named John Keriaku.

He's an FBI, CIA whistleblower fella.

Right, right, right, right.

Clearly paying for time on the show.

He's coming on, and Alex has seen him on some other shows talking about how Israel is taking over the United States.

Okay.

And so now that's

a real angle where we doing John Kiriaku is former head of counterterrorism, CIA in Afghanistan and other countries.

Very famous, very prestigious, very

documented.

What he said was true, exposing illegal torture programs and more.

I've interviewed him a few times, and he did a great job, but he has been on fire with Patrick Ben David and Tucker Carlson

on Israel really trying to take over the United States.

Not just foreign policy and so much more.

So

very impressed.

And again, he's not anti-Israel, folks.

And I want to be clear.

I don't say that as like wink, wink, dog whistle.

I love Hitler,

you know, but oh, I don't really hate all the Jews.

It's just the Zionist crap.

I'm somewhat of a historian.

Somewhat of a historian.

Fuck off.

Yeah.

Well, I mean, somewhat is a very heavy word in

this equation here.

I think if you take it seriously that you're not dog whistling and trying to hide beliefs behind this kind of shit, you really have a responsibility not to hang out with and promote people who are and are very explicit about how that's what they're doing.

And I think that Alex does not pass that test.

Okay, so here's my question: right, Israel, whoa, they take over.

Ah, we've been taken over by Israel.

But I mean, but what does that look like?

What does that mean?

Do all churches close?

I mean, to people in the more extreme

ends of Alex's audience, I think they probably think that that's happened a long time ago.

Sure, but I mean, like, you don't even have enough people to administrate a local government.

If you're Israel, you can't possibly deal with a bureaucracy the size of the United States.

You're a country of like 10 million people.

You would need more than that to run the government.

Sure.

And that's where blackmail comes in.

I don't know.

Okay, fair.

I have no idea.

All right.

I'm just saying that there's no, like, I get it, that it's scary, but also that there's nothing to do.

Well, sure, but I mean, like, how many globalists were there in Alex's conception?

That's fair.

I mean, it changes.

That's fair.

A lot.

Yeah.

But, I mean, you have like the Council of Twelve.

They've been in the back burner for a long time.

But that's a really small amount of people.

That isn't many.

Right.

So I mean you can, you know, people, motivated folks, can get things done.

Yeah, I guess.

So Alex is he's you know talking about how he's gonna have this guy on and he's complaining a lot about

Israel and Jews

a bit interchangeably and unfortunately.

He starts complaining about how everyone thinks that he's anti-Semitic and

he doesn't do a great job of convincing me otherwise.

And if I could hit a button right now and send all the Jews to Mars, I wouldn't do it.

But at the same time, I am extremely sick of the ADL and the left and just my whole career on air being called anti-Semitic if I say there's globalist and there's a World Bank and the Federal Reserve is private.

Oh, that's a secret code word for Jews.

Well, I mean, the Rothschilds, when they set up the Federal Reserve, was the only audit, owned something like 80% of the shares in it.

So, yeah, Jews own the Federal Reserve.

Okay, you can't own something that's shadowy and basically runs things and then get mad if I say Jews control the Federal Reserve.

I mean,

again, it's a fact.

Okay, so

I think Alex defeated his own argument there.

He's like, yeah, I don't, you know, I can't be called anti-Semitic when I say globalists, but now

Jews do run the center of the globalist power structure.

So

I guess I am kind of sad.

I was using coded language before, but now that I think about it, I was using coded language before.

Yeah.

Perhaps I should just use regular language.

It's fucking crazy, these kinds of thoughts spilling out of his head.

I'm a huge fan of this benchmark for racism.

Would I send all of them to the moon?

I think that's a specific callback to a conversation he had with Nick Fuentes, where Nick said he would.

Right.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So he's trying to be like, well, I mean, Nick's really, really anti-Semitic.

Right.

I'm not moon Jews.

I'm going to tell you something.

I'm going to tell you something right now.

It doesn't matter if you send all of them to the moon or just one of them if it's for the crime of being Jewish.

Yeah, the intent is

important.

That one's the hard part.

So Alex, I think, reveals a little bit too much.

And I think that one of the things that he reveals is I think he's jealous of Israel.

And that's a whole nother thing.

I can't sit there and watch Israel be an ethnostate

and not miss Rhodes.

Jews can't marry non-Jews in Israel.

And I'm like, fine, you're allowed to have an ethno state.

I'm not even saying people can't have that.

But then if some white Christians just want to be white separatists and preserve their culture, the ADL, the Jewish lobby, and all of it attacks them and says they're Nazis.

Well, why do you get to have an ethno state and white people can't?

Ooh boy.

I mean, this is like a good National Men's Day conversation.

You know, this is one of those really good, like, I understand that you think, aha, my answer that there is no National Men's Day will defeat you.

But in fact, there is.

And I think if you really dig down into a lot of countries, you'll see a lot of white ethnostates if you really look for them.

Sure.

But I also think that something that's fascinating about this is like

making an argument like this

reveals more about you

than it does about the United States, about Israel, about anything.

No, it's about fairness.

I want a national, if there's a National Women's Day, all these women having days, right, then there should be a National Men's Day.

And I think the same thing is true for ethnostates.

Cool.

Yep.

Yep, great.

Yep.

So Alex brings up some memories.

And I think that this John Kiriaku guy,

I think he's in

maybe

a little bit of an orientation period, a feel-out process to be the new Steve Pachenek.

Okay.

All right.

We're auditions.

I think so.

Okay.

I think because he has like this intelligence background.

He has some kind of appearance of credibility.

Whistleblower is.

He's clearly interested in talking to Alex.

He wants to push his agenda on Alex, which he's fine with.

And so I think Alex is thinking about Steve.

And he probably wants to pay more than Steve.

Maybe.

I don't know.

Steve had a nice Florida condo, right?

Anyway,

Alex, I think he's thinking of Steve.

Okay.

And, of course, Hitler double-crossed him all at the end.

That's why Madeline Albright's dad, one of the main Jews running the operations of the Nazis, rounding up Jews, he was at the top.

Sorrels was at the bottom.

You tell me people like Steve Pachenek, who's Jewish or half Jewish.

I guess the dad's dad's Catholic, the mom is Jewish, so that makes him Jewish, you know, high-level CIA at the time, a long time ago, really smart guy.

But, you know, he would go off on it all day long about how the Jewish leadership made a deal with Hitler and all this and knew about the persecution coming and had a deal to send him to Palestine.

But in the middle of it,

the Germans lost control of North Africa and the Middle East.

And they said, no, you were just going to kill all of you now.

And then they, of course, rounded up

even in Paris.

One of the Rothschilds was running a bank with all the stolen Jew money they took from their own people.

Wild!

They killed them.

So it's true, even a couple of Rothschilds got killed.

Oh, you mean Hitler double-crossed you?

Yeah.

You got out criminaled.

Rothschild.

Try this.

Try this game.

Rothschild bad, Hitler bad.

See, you're not supposed to go, Rothschild good, Hitler bad, or Hitler good, Rothschild bad.

No, Rothschild bad, Hitler bad.

See how that works?

Cyanide bad, arsenic bad.

It's bad to be shot with a shotgun, it's bad to be shot with 37 magnum in the head.

If Alex wants to bring up stuff that Steve used to tell him, then he should probably also remind the audience why Steve isn't allowed on the show anymore.

Steve wouldn't stop going along with the QAnon-type narratives about how the 2020 election was run with watermarked ballots and that Trump would be installed as president any day now.

And it just didn't work for the direction Alex's content was going.

In order to navigate out of that kind of trouble, Alex decided that Steve was still working for intelligence agencies and was feeding him misinformation.

Essentially, he was a globalist trying to distract Alex and his audience with this fake hope so they wouldn't do the hard work of trying to support Trump in his real battles.

If that's possibly true, then it should call for a full-scale reassessment of the other things that Steve has brought into the mythology of InfoWars, but that audit is more elusive than the one Alex wants to do on the Federal Reserve.

What he's spouting here is just anti-Semitic trash, and I can't really imagine that Alex doesn't understand that.

He's really gone out of his way to avoid being too explicit about a lot of this stuff in the past for a reason, and it's because he's aware of that large section of his audience that are just straight up Nazis waiting for him to come out.

When Alex said earlier that he wasn't dog whistling, he was doing that because he knows that a bunch of his friends like Nick are, and it caters to a specific part of his audience.

It's great that Alex thinks he's operating on some higher level by saying saying that Hitler and the Rothschilds are bad, but he's actually just infantilizing this issue by pretending that there's an equivalence here.

And it's bad.

It's real bad.

And I don't think that it's not things that he's thought for a long time.

Let's name all the things that are bad and equalize them with Hitler.

Traffic.

Traffic bad?

Hitler bad.

A lot of people are saying that Hitler good.

Traffic bad?

traffic good, Hitler bad.

You can do both.

See?

These are the same things, really.

So if you're complaining about the Holocaust, you're really just complaining about traffic.

Right.

Honestly.

And I think that Alex tries to play that game where he's acting like this is some kind of complex, higher-level thinking that he's engaged in, and it's not.

It's baby shit.

Yep.

Yep.

Anyway, I will say that I agree with Alex about one important point that he makes in this clip, and that is that he is not a closet racist.

And that's because there is no closet.

I mean, Soros is still alive and was helping round up Jews for the Nazis.

And I'm just like, and then you fun groups call me a Nazi?

Fuck off, man.

Because I know all about Hitler.

And don't compare me to you and your boss.

That's why the Nazis don't like me because they love Hugo Boss uniforms and

the formations and the geometry and the architecture.

And it makes them feel powerful to see a bunch of mainly homosexual men in black uniforms march around.

Oh, yeah, the Nazis were just,

I just know too much.

Just like Narrows Barkley says, you know, I've gone crazy.

I just know too much.

Just like Narls Barkley.

So no, I'm not a closeted anti-black person.

I'm not a closeted anti-Hispanic.

I'm not a closeted anti-Jew.

But what I am is openly against racist black people.

And that's not even most of them, but they're out there and I will not bow to them and I won't bow to Jews trying to make me feel guilty to them.

And I'm not going to bow bow to anybody, and I'm proud to be white.

And there's only 7% of the world that's white, and there's all these movements to not be white and don't have a white wife.

And I mean, hell, if you love somebody that's another color, I'm attracted to people all colors.

But my point is: is it by always telling me it's bad that I'm white all day, I'm like, well, hell, I better get some more white babies around here.

Is that what you think?

Polar bears to go extinct.

Yeah, man.

So, anyway, I agree entirely that Alex is not a closet racist.

There was never been a closet.

It's

no.

I'm not a Nazi.

I know Hitler.

I've studied Hitler.

I know exactly what he's doing.

And that's why whenever I say that ICE is going to these places, tearing people from their homes and then putting them in pens, I am telling you that I don't like Hitler.

Yeah, because, you know, Hitler, he just liked

shapes and gay uniforms.

He was just, you know what?

That's the problem with liberals, is that you say, oh, I'm going going to round up all these people, and then they whine at you and tell you that it's bad to be white.

Right, and they try and imply that you're a gay guy with the uniform.

Exactly.

They're not.

I'm not gay.

I'm just a racist.

Yeah.

So it's not like that Alex has ever really been trying to hide his racism per se.

Sure, sure.

It's more that his ideology is built on a foundation of racism, anti-Semitism, and tycoon worship.

to the extent that it just all feels natural to him.

On top of that, he's a coward.

And throughout his career, he's known that to let this side of himself be more explicit on air would basically fuck over any chances he had at making money.

So he's been pretty vigilant about speaking in his code.

He clearly doesn't feel like that matters anymore.

And he's making an obvious play to try to win over some of Nick's fans.

It's not going to work, though, because Nick's fans don't want this.

They want someone saying we need to send the Jews to the moon, right?

I mean, like, they are beyond this.

Listen, all right?

You have oatmeal.

You eat a lot of oatmeal.

You like oatmeal.

Then you have lucky charms.

You're not going back to fucking oatmeal.

You're not going back.

The extreme sugar is going to keep you there.

Unless you have like a heart attack or something.

Yeah, exactly.

Well, yeah, exactly.

Unless there's a crisis and you need to go back to oatmeal.

Right.

Unless you have to, you will not choose to.

It's unlikely.

Yeah.

And I think that Alex is chasing something that is just not attainable unless he finds a way to go more extreme than Nick.

And I don't think there's a way for him to credibly do that, given his 30-year track record.

I mean, he knows Hitler.

That's where you gotta go.

Hitler tells me what time it is at night.

That would fight, if it turned out to be the ghost of Hitler,

that would finally make sense of everything.

Uh-huh.

Right?

Uh-huh.

When was he born?

He was born in like the 50s, right?

Alex?

Yeah.

1974.

1970.

God, it feels like he should be so much older.

It still still bums me up.

Every time I find out how old he is, I'm like, that cannot be true.

It's rough.

That cannot be true.

He's lived a tough life.

Oh, my God.

Hard life full of spirits.

Spirits.

All right.

Well, I mean,

okay.

How long would it take, if you were a spirit, to walk from Germany to Texas?

Probably about the distance between Alex's birth and Hitler's death.

Probably.

Yeah.

I would say exactly the distance.

Yeah.

So

I'm trying to find a way to make this work with the Gene Hackman of No.

Hitler killed Gene Hackman.

I think we all know that now.

No.

Okay.

God is real.

Okay.

And he was trying to get Alex to go to Gene Hackman.

Okay.

Because Alex is animated by the spirit of Hitler.

Hitler, the demon has gotten within him.

Right.

Gene Hackman had a spirit in him.

Okay.

Whoever was running Operation Valkyrie.

Okay.

So he's trying to lure Alex to the hit.

So we've got the ancient,

the never-ending battle between Valkyries and Hitler.

Yeah.

So

God was trying to lure Alex to Gene Heckman so Gene Heckman could finish the job.

Right.

I don't know.

I mean, it would make, here's what makes more sense, right?

Hitler and the Valkyries guy.

Actually, spirits who've been around since the dawn of human civilization.

They've always been fighting and possessing people.

They just keep going back and forth, doing this over and over and over again.

Finally, the spirit of Hitler is like, I've got the upper hand, and God is trying to,

and then, bam, Gene Hackman's gone.

That's what happened.

We lost a real one.

We lost a real one.

We lost the Valkyrie's guy.

So,

I mean, look, this is bad.

It's all bad.

It's bad.

And this is not good.

You know, the Nazis trying to, oh, there's not really high, you know, Jews aren't as smart as they say.

Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

This is going well.

Bullshit.

Why is our whole religious world system come out of them?

I mean, just knock it off.

It is Judeo-Christian.

Doesn't mean it's Jewish Christianity.

Now, that's what they mean.

No, I mean it comes out of Abraham.

Christianity came right out from between the legs of Abraham.

Sure.

And the abomination of Islam.

Hot.

And the Bible says this will be the abomination.

So just stop.

We're obsessed with the Jews and they're obsessed with themselves because there is something special,

especially good and especially bad.

Because anything that's,

the more you can have a thousand horsepower car and you know how to drive it, it's great.

If you don't know how to drive it, you'll get your ass wrapped around a telephone pole.

And that's what I'm telling the Jews, not as one mile of the group, but the ones, you know who you are, stop using psychological warfare, stop using black magic.

Stop using dirty tricks.

Stop it.

Because you know the thing about black magic?

It comes back on the person that does it sevenfold.

Yikes.

Yikes.

This isn't good.

This is a bad direction for Alex's content to be going.

Okay.

All right.

Stop it.

All right.

So, Christianity,

you know, I get what you're saying.

Who's doing black magic?

Apparently, select Jews.

See, this is the problem.

Yeah.

See, this is the problem.

You don't even have to tell me anything else than.

No, what I'm trying to say is that Jews who do black magic will receive worse than seven times the results.

Yeah.

I can see why you would think that.

So now, I also, I think it's important to remember that the people that he's arguing with in his head are Nick and Nick's fans.

Yep.

When he's saying that, like, oh, people say that the Jews aren't as smart as they say.

Stop it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Just saying that there's no Judeo-Christian heritage.

Like, that's stuff that Nick says.

Alex is just mad about things that he's seen Nick tweet.

Yeah, like what, in what world are you having so many of these conversations that your tone of voice is like, just stop telling me that the Jews aren't good?

Like what are we talking about?

Right.

And

how desperate do you have to be to be this mad about

this person

and the things that Nick is saying and still be like, I kind of want to hang around him.

Stop.

I want to be you you and suck out your youth.

Yeah.

But I just can't commit.

Can't do it.

So,

yeah, more bad.

Sounds great.

More reasonable.

I feel like we're doing great.

No, we're not.

You don't think I, by magic, I mean in general, dirty tricks.

You don't think I'm not pretty smart and don't know how to do a lot of really nasty stuff to you after what you've done to me?

You don't think I don't know it's been

your mafia that's been on top of my ass?

I'm sorry.

I'm not an incubate, did you?

I warned you that you're going to get your asses in a lot of trouble where you're going.

And you're going to conjure a new Adolf Hitler.

It'll probably get us all killed.

See, I'm smart enough to look ahead here.

No, I'm actually Israel's best friend because I care about everybody.

And if you think, those of you that think you're going to blow the Jews up and they're not going to take you with them, you're an idiot.

But again, if I could blow the Jews up all right now

and get away with it and add a button, I wouldn't push it

because that's not in God's life.

You're a hero.

You're a goddamn hero.

You start doing that.

You know who's playing you're part of.

You're like, oh, wait, you're saying they're with God?

No,

they're with a whole bunch of stuff.

When God favors you, so does the devil.

The more power I get, the more the devil comes a knocking.

And more the temptation gets.

So I know what the Jews have gone through.

Because you know what?

I'm exceptional.

I'm powerful.

So, I recognize you've had a lot of exception.

I have exception.

And, you know, the Jewish lobby knows that about Northern Europeans, and they don't like competition.

And that's why they're after them.

So, stop it.

Oh, boy.

That's.

What do you say?

I mean, I feel like that's not that bad.

Yeah, sure.

So,

if you need to be convinced that this is real bad.

I don't think there's any reason ever to listen to anybody past, listen up, Jews.

Nothing good ever follows that.

Nothing good ever follows, like, we're going to a water park.

Never, never.

Yeah, and I think you could probably sub in any group.

Yeah.

And I think that you'd probably get yourself into really dicey territory fast.

And

here's what's important about the stupid fucking group bullshit is you're looking at ICE as they're doing the thing that's happening.

It doesn't matter if you're an illegal immigrant, quote unquote, or not.

They're just rounding up people that look the same, right?

It is not about whether or not you are Jewish.

They're just rounding people up.

It's not about the thing.

And in fairness to Alex, on July 17th, he didn't know that Trump was going to take over D.C.

Well, he didn't know.

He didn't know they were going to send federal agents in and stuff.

So you have to give them the benefit of the doubt on that.

When have we ever seen an out-of-control man with too much power who has a private army surrounding himself go bad?

Never.

Never.

Now, I will say,

in order to just sort of palate cleanse from that last clip,

when Alex says that when you're favored by God, you're also favored by the devil.

Sure.

I was waiting for him to say, it's what Mike Tyson said.

Right.

Because he's just taken that from a Mike Tyson meme.

He loves Mike Tyson.

Well, the toad grants wisdom.

I mean,

I like Mike Tyson, I guess.

I don't know.

What are we doing?

I don't even know if he super likes Mike Tyson, but he really liked that meme, and he's been pulling from it a lot.

You're right.

That idea that when God favors you, the devil favors you too.

Yeah.

That is directly just something from a Twitter video that Alex saw of Mike Tyson.

Yeah,

you're right.

There's no way he actually has listened to a thing or anything.

That's his headline.

The headline is Mike Tyson said this thing.

And it's

I like the the way it feels.

Yeah.

So I was waiting for him to cite Mike Tyson because he is ripping him off.

Right.

And he doesn't in this case.

And I got really disappointed.

Uh-oh.

Yeah.

So anyway, Alex takes some calls because he wants to get the temperature of the audience.

Probably great.

Yeah, so one guy, he is like, hey,

if the Epstein files got released, that might reveal a lot more.

than just child trafficking.

There might be a lot of like Satan shit

that we end up finding finding out.

And so Alex talks about that a little.

But also, what if it's a lot scarier than just trafficking and pedophilia?

What if this goes into black magic, ritualistic behavior?

And

let me tell you something.

Eyes wide shut isn't a movie.

It's a documentary.

You get in the upper echelons of money, you either got rich people that hide out and stay away from everybody and are freaked out.

I mean, they're really rich people.

Or you got rich people that are devil worshiping.

Devil worshiping, I mean, I mean, hardcore Luciferianism is all over the place.

I've told this, I mean, I'm not making it up.

I've seen it, folks.

Okay.

And that's when I was a teenager.

So let me tell you,

it is bad.

I mean, I've been in eyes wide shut stuff.

I've literally gotten out of that stuff.

13, 14, 15.

Even Peto?

I'm like, God, I get to date the beauty queen.

Oh, God, I'm 15 dating a college beauty queen.

And I was like, another big mansion, another helicopter pad,

another black magic ceremony.

Golden chair.

And I was just like, God almighty, they were trying to recruit me, man.

It's all over the place, bro.

Like Pete?

I believe it.

Oh, I see.

I mean, I know it.

But how deep does it go, and how prolific is it?

It's Luciferianism in elite rich circles.

The Bible says the devil controls the elite, the principalities and the powers of the air.

I mean, I would say

half the billionaires and their adjuncts in any elite area are doing sex rituals and black magic on a weekly basis.

I mean,

there are as many satanic real churches, not the fake idiot ones you see.

They're all idiots, but the little provincials.

There are as many satanic ceremonies going on in a major city or in these elite rural areas almost as much as there are church services going on.

One-to-one.

You hear what I'm saying?

Yeah, of course.

Because this isn't like going down to the Baptist church and hearing the preacher speak and singing some hymns.

There's sex

whole nine yards.

So I guess that's what Trump is now covering up?

Right.

Like a network of super-elite Satan worshipers who have at least weekly services that involve sex and maybe human sacrifice.

This sounds like a giant problem.

It feels like if I were to see that as my enemy

and then do everything I could to defeat them, and then later on, whenever it became convenient, I was like, now we're best friends and I control everything.

That would make me the guy who's in charge of all of these satanic sex rituals.

Now, if I'm in charge of a bunch of satanic sex rituals and I allow them to keep happening, that would suggest to me that I'm not very in touch with the Lord whatsoever.

I'm kind of more on the let's do satanic rituals side.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And if Alex believes any of this stuff, it's kind of silly that he's doing a show like this is not something i i you clearly aren't going to be able to solve that kind of a problem through a radio show yeah uh

getting more awareness around this isn't going to work you got to go like vigilante this is what bothers me about these people is that they're taking this so seriously but in the wrong way if black magic is a problem

I will learn to do it.

Yeah, learn light magic.

Yeah,

I want...

I'll prove somebody's not a witch by not learning how to do magic from them.

But that's the problem, is that Alex can do magic.

Right.

He just can't.

I will pretend that he can.

I will learn magic from Alex Jones.

If that is what I must do, I will learn magic to prove that dark magic is real.

I will do it.

I will sacrifice my very soul.

I will give it to the devil in order to prove that black magic is real.

Right now, devil, boom!

Go to Austin.

I would.

I will.

All right.

There's probably one there, or at least there's a Hitler.

Yeah, I think Alex would take you on as a, like, I mean, he, you know, he's not selling all those knives.

Yeah.

Those daggers aren't moving fast enough.

So, like, he could use a little bit of a, like, give him a consulting fee or something.

Pay out the nose for black magic.

Sure.

Yeah.

Well, good luck.

Yeah, thanks.

So, um, another caller brings up, hey, man, you know, like, in child trafficking,

the pageants play a role in that.

And Alex

does not want to pursue

stuff like the CIA being involved.

They've done stuff with the Playboy models of the month, you know, getting them to be prostitutes for high-level leaders of other countries.

Oh, 100%.

That's what that all is.

Yeah, and then it ties into the beauty pageants.

And the beauty pageants go to the child pageants.

And that all ties into the children's stuff.

Yeah, I got to say, a lot of the parents involved in those are pimming their kids out.

I mean, I'd say a lot of them.

It's sick.

All right.

God bless you.

Jan and Malibu.

Let's move along from that thought.

I love a good, all right.

God bless you.

Yeah, God bless you.

That is more valuable than any of the explanations that he's had.

If he was just like, ah, this P Teep.

All right, God bless you.

We're just going to move on.

I'd be fine.

I'd be like, yeah, you're right.

All right.

Let's move on.

Yeah, these people are pimping their kids, and Trump owns multiple pageants.

All right.

Let's get out of here.

And I think if you were listening to the full

that call,

I think you would strongly get the sense that this caller was trying to imply that.

Right.

He was trying to lead Alex to that, and that's why Alex gave him a God bless you and hung up.

I like it.

Well done.

Yeah.

So a lot of the ability to pretend that everything is all right with Trump comes from a belief that Alex has that there's going to be the special counsel counsel.

Right, right, right.

At least we've got that to hang on to.

That's a rung on the ladder.

It's taken a lot of the heat off.

A thousand-pound gorilla off Alex's chest.

Yep.

Uh-oh.

Oh, no.

News just broke it.

It's not happening.

Well, it probably won't be.

Well, the strange game.

The only way to win is not to play.

All right, I got some bad news for you.

And I understand why Trump's doing this.

John Solomon's very credible, never lies.

Two days ago, Trump tells him, oh, I'm doing a special prosecutor.

I talked to DOJ people high up.

They said, no, he wants one.

But he doesn't want to put his destiny in somebody's hands.

He's lost a lot of trust.

He put Ed Martin in.

The guy's, I mean, the guy,

25 years.

I mean, that guy is like as good as it gets.

But

press secretary Epstein case says

no special prosecutor.

And look, I'm completely honest with the listeners.

People take it it out of context.

They go, Jones is selling how to do a cover-up.

No, I said, I don't think there should be a cover-up.

There should be full transparency.

But if Trump is going to cover it up,

just say we're still investigating and slowroll it.

If he thinks it'll crash the economy, the news is so bad or whatever.

But no, he keeps saying don't talk about it, which is the worst possible thing you could do.

I mean, that's why it's like the worst possible thing.

And I am just like beside myself.

And I was in a a good mood today because it looked like there'd be a prosecutor.

And now Trump's decided not.

But he's vacillating so much, who knows?

He may appoint one tomorrow.

Just put Ed Martin in for God's sakes.

And they got some planted Democrat stuff.

Expose it and use it against him.

All right.

He knows they do that.

Stop running from their BS.

When they planted child porn on me, and we want to meet with you, we won't go public if you work with us.

I went on there and attacked within an hour.

And they crapped their bitches.

And the FBI gave me a letter saying I was the victim.

Of course I was.

Well, we found this child porn you sent us, but we'll work with you.

I was like, you,

I was just, oh, my God.

Attack, attack, attack.

Never surrender.

Here's Levitt.

Well, the idea was floated from someone in the media to the president.

The president would not recommend a special prosecutor in the Epstein case.

That's how he feels.

And as for his discussions with the Attorney General, I'm not sure.

Deanna.

Sure.

Thank Thank you.

Oh, yeah.

More flip-flopping.

My God, they're doing so many 180s here.

I think I'm on a roller coaster at Magic Mountain.

That sounds bad.

So I think when Alex says that Trump doesn't want to leave his destiny in someone else's hands, he's kind of saying that Trump doesn't want to be investigated because he knows he's dirty as hell.

Right.

Right, right, right.

You feel, I mean, obviously, Alex is a disgusting bigot piece of shit, and I don't really have a whole lot of empathy for him, but you feel for a guy who really thinks for most of his shift, everything is going to be okay.

I'm going to distract people with the pot farm bust.

It's going to be hard, but I'm going to get through it.

Right.

Trump has given the talking points in that Truth Social post, and we're going to, you know, we're going to pretend that he's saving the children and all this immigration stuff.

We're going to talk about the Democrats trying to steal Los Angeles with the fires.

We're going to make it through.

I'm going to get really anti-Semitic to to try and appeal to a little bit newer of a crowd.

Yep.

But it's going to work.

We're going to make it.

And then just at the end of the show, nah, we're not doing it.

Nope.

He was in a good mood.

You know, sometimes when you make it through eating your big bowl of shit,

you think, you know what?

That could have been worse.

Now that I'm on the other side of it,

I'm actually kind of proud of myself for having finished it.

Well, and there's good news, too.

There's dessert.

Absolutely.

But then, man, whenever you find out you're not done eating shit, that's when it really hurts.

Yeah, because that's dessert.

Because you were done.

You know, it sucked every second of it.

It tasted bad.

It was awful.

And then, oh, you're never done.

Nah.

Nope.

And you opted into this.

Yep.

Like, you didn't have to.

Like, we're on July 17th.

This is 10 days after that FBI memo has come out.

After Alex has gone back and forth whether Trump's got a demon inside him or whatever.

He doesn't need to do this.

He could have jumped off this.

The only reason that he has to keep eating that bowl of shit is because he's decided, I'll get through this bowl of shit.

No, stop eating that shit.

Yeah.

I mean, what is, like,

what is the point of him?

You know, like, the point of him was, I tell the truth no matter what.

And what matters is that he just said a thing no matter what, right?

Whether it was true or not is unimportant.

He said it true like it, like it was.

Now he's not even doing that.

Now he's, he's even like, well, maybe it's true, maybe it's not true.

Here's what they should do to handle it.

Like your job, your function is just true, false.

That's it.

Yeah.

Yeah,

and I think that,

you know, for better or worse, in the first Trump administration, there was a message discipline among conspiracy theorists.

There was an ability to be like, it's the fucking deep state.

Yep.

Everything is the deep state's problem.

It's the deep state.

And maybe you can do like, you know, maybe you're a little bit more QAnoni, and maybe you're a little more pachanecky.

Maybe you're a little more Alex-y.

There's different flavors of it, but there was a united front for the most part that was kept up.

Right.

And when Trump lost in 2020, that allowed that united front to remain together a bit as well, because they needed to get back into power.

Right.

And they'd been wronged by the deep state.

And then COVID, you know, that allowed for a lot of like, hey, let's look past some of these differences.

We got tyranny on our hands here.

Sure.

And now Trump's re-elected.

He's back in power.

He's taken over pretty much every aspect of the government.

And there is no message discipline.

There is no, like, there's no unity among the conspiracy theorists.

They're starting to argue with each other.

Propagandists are jockeying for position with each other in a way that didn't happen as much

previously.

And they're

well, I mean, the difference is he couldn't do as much.

Like, the difference was that Trump was impeached immediately for illegally winning.

So they had that to rally around.

You know, it doesn't matter if Trump the president does anything.

The Democrats are trying to defeat him.

And then there were enough legislative Democrats and yada, yada yada and enough pushback that maybe we could like curb some stuff.

And so what the Democrats and the people were actually doing is making Trump palatable.

They were cutting off the rough edges of his terrible ideas and making something that actually functions at the very least.

And now there's nothing stopping them.

And the problem with that is that they are fucking stupid.

The only thing that kept these people going was that there were competent people making their shit work, basically.

And now those competent people are gone.

There are competent people trying to have an argument with Trump on a competent level.

Yep.

In the same way that Bass is trying to treat him like an adult or a child in that press conference, that makes him appear like he's having an argument on a level of what is actually in the interests of helping these people that have been ravaged by this fire.

Yep.

When in reality, that's not the planet he's even living on.

Nope.

No, the only thing to say is I would like you to please get out of this room.

Thank you.

Like, that's her only option is, I can't do this with you here.

So, either you do it or I'll do it.

There can be no coexistence here.

Yeah, yeah.

It's,

and, and the,

between that favor that Trump's opposition was doing him and the ability to just point at everything and be like, haha, deep state.

Yep.

Um, those things don't appear as potent anymore.

And Alex is in, like, there's real trouble.

He has to, he has to decide what his identity is.

I mean, when there's nobody else to blame, that's when you realize that's the only thing that was keeping you guys together.

There's the only person to blame for this is Trump.

So either you blame the one person that you have spent the last forever trying to avoid blaming for anything, or you make up some bullshit.

Yeah, or you try to cater to the people who are like, no, it's the Jews.

And that seems like what Alex is far more interested in

than getting right about the Trump shit.

Yeah.

So we'll see what happens as this progresses.

We'll see, you know, I think that Alex is in a really, really bad situation with Trump taking over D.C.

and the present.

I feel like martial law police state guy is going to have a really, really hard time with that one.

Yeah.

But we'll see.

We'll see.

No.

No, the president just has a military force patrolling the streets near him.

Hey, home rule, man.

That's no big deal.

Yeah, that's fine.

If he can deal with Trump saying that people who care about Epstein are stupid, then I mean,

it knows no bounds.

Yeah, why not?

So we'll see where this goes.

But until then, we have a website.

Indeed, we do.

It's KnowledgeFact.com.

Yep, we'll be back.

But until then, I'm Neo.

I'm Leo.

I'm DZX Clark.

I am the mysterious professor.

Woo, yeah, woo, yeah, woo.

And now here comes the sex robots.

Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.

Thanks for holding.

Hello, Alex.

I'm a first-time caller.

I'm a huge fan.

I love your work.

I love you.