#1032: April 23-24, 2025

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Dan and Jordan, I am sweating.

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Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.

Thanks for holding us.

Hello, Alex.

I'm a fifth-time caller.

I'm a huge fan.

I love your room.

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I love you.

Hey, everybody.

Welcome back knowledge fight.

I'm Dan.

I'm Jordan.

We're a couple dudes.

Like to sit around, worship at the altar of Celine, and talk a little bit about Alex Jerry.

Oh, indeed we are, Dan.

Jordan.

Dan.

Jordan.

Quick question for you.

What's up?

What's your bright spot today, buddy?

My bright spot today is I was thinking about this whole experiencing life with a pinky ring thing and how I'm supposed to report back on experiences.

Sure.

And this is kind of hitting a wall because I don't do much.

There is that.

Don't leave the house that much.

There is that.

So I started to notice that there weren't many things for me to

say, hey, this is what it was like for me to experience X, Y, or Z while wearing a pinky ring.

Sure.

But I did go to try and went to

like a secondhand store to try and find an end table.

Okay.

With a pinky ring.

Yeah.

And I did feel like the people might

have suspected that I was looking for a new fence.

Okay.

You know, I'm like, I'm trying to move still.

I like that.

I like that.

I'm coming in there looking for a connect.

So they like clocked the pinky ring and were like, whoa, we got to treat this guy a little bit differently because we don't know.

I don't know if they did treat me any differently, but I felt it.

I felt like maybe they were looking at me as a potential guy who has some things

that he needs to move.

He needs to get rid of.

I don't think it's always the case, but sometimes your inner feelings are more important than what's happening around you.

So it's important that this influence you in this way.

Guy with a pinky ring at the secondhand store,

there's a criminal veneer to that.

Yeah.

Yeah, I don't know.

Absolutely.

It would have been more fun if you were using cockney rhyming slang at the same time.

That would have done it.

Hmm.

Yeah, okay.

I'll work that in next time.

Okay.

So what's your bright spot?

My bright spot is Andor.

Okay.

Andor.

I've heard it's great.

It's fucking great.

Yeah.

It's really fucking great.

It just is.

Where do you put it in the Star Wars properties?

I mean, as far as TV shows, it's the best Star Wars TV show.

Better than Mando.

Yeah.

Better than Mando.

The Book of Boba Fett.

Way better than The Book of Boba Fett.

I don't remember any others.

What about that cartoon one?

The Clone Wars?

Rebels?

The one with Ezra?

Yeah, The Lower Death Star.

No, not that one.

Then there was Obi-Wan, Obi-Wan, which I enjoyed Obi-Wan the show more than other people.

And then The Apprentice, I really enjoyed that.

That was with Trump.

No.

Was it called The Apprentice?

No, what was the show was?

It was.

No, I'm for sure.

Oh, shit.

What was it called?

Acolyte?

That's what it was called.

I know that.

I have no idea.

So, yeah, I've heard that's fantastic.

Yeah.

And not like crazy Star Wars-y.

No, I mean,

it's so crazy that it's so hard to make it happen.

But the Star Wars universe

has more people than just the Jedi.

You don't need to always see what wizards are fighting about with their lightsabers, you know?

Yeah, I know that's what you liked about the new game.

Yeah, I really liked it.

Yeah,

I don't need Jedi with their fucking moralism all the time.

Sometimes you got to steal shit and blow stuff up.

And I think everything we know of the Jedi from all of the stories, like, they're not right.

Nope.

So, like, let's see what other people are up to.

Let's see see what everybody else has to say.

Yeah.

Kind of thought about it.

Well I'm glad you're enjoying the show.

Did they just finish the season or?

No, the last three episodes are going to be next week.

Nice.

And that's the end of the show.

Forever?

Yep.

Two seasons because, and I'll tell you why, at the end of this show is when the movie Rogue One happens.

Okay.

And that's in, but so the show ends, Rogue One happens, then A New Hope starts.

We're eventually just going to get everything.

I mean,

I think the whole timeline, essentially, yeah, we're going to have a

actual

rise and fall of the Roman Empire kind of thing.

All right.

Yeah.

That's fine.

Well, it could be interesting.

Sure.

I'm looking forward to

when they go real,

like, you know, there's a lot of niche characters in Star Wars.

Sure.

You mean like Jack Tono Porkins?

Sure.

Let's give him a show.

That's what I'm saying.

Yeah, let's do that.

I am down for that.

Everybody a show.

Okay, all right.

You want to go take out some Womp Rats with Biggs?

And Binks.

Biggs and Binks.

I like that.

Let's do it.

Biggs and Binks is

like a movie review show.

I'm in.

A two-hander with Biggs and Binks.

We're printing money.

Misa thinks Fielberg is over the shark.

All right.

Misa thinks we're going to crush the ratings.

So, Jordan, today we have an episode to go over.

Yeah, okay.

We are back in the present talking about our primary ding-dong.

Sure.

We're talking about the 23rd and 24th of April 2025.

Gotcha.

And shit, is this a bummer?

Oh, no.

Alex

is

wrestling with the reality that he's about to lose everything.

Okay, good.

Fun?

We've been here too many times in the past to get too excited.

Sure.

But

if you feel the tone out of where he's at,

he is actually like,

this is going to be gone.

I'm done.

Good.

Kind of.

So it's a little bit of a bummer of a mood for him to be in, but he sucks.

So it's kind of fun.

Yeah.

And we'll get down to business talking about all of that.

But first, let's take a little moment to say hello to some new wars.

Ooh, that's a great idea.

So first, what's in this mailbag?

Zeph Peter Dutton is Timu Trump.

Thank you so much, Uranio Policy Wonk.

I'm a policy wonk.

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Next, Liz Liz, the Chicagoan neurosurgery goddess.

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Next, Pete Booty Juice.

I want to ride my bike with Pete Booty Juice, Liberal Photo Op in Washington, D.C.

I'm going to keep on riding with the Pete Booty Juice.

Pete Booty Juice.

Thank you so much, Jernhow Policy Wonk.

I'm a policy wonk.

Thank you very much.

I'm sure I got the meter of that wrong.

No, it was perfect, and I'm glad you said it out loud.

Thank you.

And we got a technical credit mix, Jordan, so thank you so much, too.

I'm writing this on March 31st to say happy 12th anniversary to Kel for May 11th.

I always thought you were cool.

Love from Pippin.

Thank you so much.

You're an Iow Technocrat.

I'm a policy wonk.

Four stars.

Go home to your mother and tell her you're brilliant.

Someone sodomite sent me a bucket of poop.

Daddy Sharp.

Jar Jar Binks has a Caribbean black accent.

He's a loser, little, little titty baby.

I don't want to hate black people.

I renounce Jesus Christ.

Thank you so much.

Yes, thank you very much.

That one wasn't super late.

No, I know.

I'd like to.

so I read that one and I was like, it is possible that I could hang, hold on to this one and do it closer to the day.

But then I thought that's unfair to all the people who we've been like two months late on.

If your name comes up when your name comes up.

Yeah, it's just a roll of the dice.

Exactly.

So we're going to start this off on the 23rd.

And Alex is

getting to some headlines for the day.

All right.

It is Wednesday, April 23rd, 2025.

We're entering

the 93rd day of the return of President Trump.

Depending on how you look at the 94th.

All right.

Wow.

What a day.

The British government says, oh, we're going to have the jet airplanes all spray chemicals in the air to save from global warming to block the sun out.

Oh, that I said 95 with the documents.

Oh.

And Klaus Schwab's under fraud criminal investigation.

Oh.

And so much more.

It's just insane.

And I told you, I always say 2,000 chemicals.

That was the old number.

I'm wrong.

They've listed them.

It's over 10,000 deadly, addictive, toxic chemicals that only U.S.

food producers, it's banned everywhere else, put in our food as part of the globalist targeting.

All banned officially yesterday, and it's all being pulled out right now because the liability protection's gone.

So in the first minute of the show, Alex has laid out three fairly large stories, almost like bullet points.

In an actual news show or one of the pundit type shows you see on major networks, this would be like the headline rundown of what's coming up later on in the show.

These are the segments that they've prepared and they're about to present.

But with Alex, it's kind of random.

These are tweets that he's got towards the top of his stack of paper, and it may or may not be the case that he covers these stories in the body of the show.

It really depends on how the vibes evolve throughout his broadcast.

You can be certain that he won't do any actual coverage of the stories in this headline rundown, but it's funny to realize that a lot of times he doesn't even get back to rambling about them.

This is incredibly just rough, like

throwing darts.

There would be like a Chiron.

There might even be like a thing on that, or like five minutes from now, we'll get into this specific story.

So, you know, this is when you take a shit or something.

Yeah.

Yeah, there would be some production meeting that had taken place and

cues.

Structure of any kind.

Yeah.

So the UK government has announced a £50 million investment in a limited experiment involving seeding clouds that may help in reflecting solar radiation, but it's a very small-scale thing.

This is under the heading of a program called ARIA, and the head of it told The Guardian:

Having spoken to hundreds of researchers, we reached the conclusion that a critical missing part of our research was real-world physical data.

These would show us whether any of these potential approaches would actually work and what their effects would be.

Modeling and indoor studies are essential essential as prerequisites, but can only tell us so much.

In this instance, Alex is completely full of shit about this being about like poisoning people with chemtrails or whatever, but I'm kind of on his side in terms of opposition to this kind of program.

The argument for these types of studies and programs is that climate change is happening and we aren't making the required adjustments to our emissions, so a geoengineering project that could help manage the rising solar radiation, it could buy us the time to make the cuts that we need to make.

However, a lot of climate scientists oppose these kinds kinds of initiatives because they view them as being a distraction and basically like trying to rearrange deck chairs on the Titanic.

If we aren't going to make the cuts now, this is only going to delude us into thinking that maybe we can get away with not making them ever, which can be a dangerous trap to fall into.

As someone who's not a real expert on this subject, I kind of lean towards that perspective, so I'm slightly opposed to this kind of geoengineering, not because I think it's wrong or evil, but because it seems like it could have a pacifying effect on making real change.

Yeah.

So Alec, this is a weird place where Alex and I maybe have

the appearance of some agreement, but we actually totally disagree.

This is one of the worst experiences of deja vu I think I've ever had.

I feel like I've existed in this very conversation before.

So, I'll say what I remember saying if I had said it before, which is, buddy, that shit ain't happening.

What we got to do is throw all the spaghetti at the wall because none of this cut shit is happening.

None of that shit is happening.

Throw away hope for any of that.

And I think, hey, I I think that's a totally valid argument, too.

I don't think it's wrong to do these kinds of studies, but I think to have like to think that's going to buy us time,

which is a lot of the mentality that people have.

I think that that's kind of

yeah.

I think that's, I think it's all, it's both wrong.

The cuts aren't going to happen, so get rid of your hope on that.

And buying his time isn't going to happen.

Get out of here.

Figure out a way to just control the air.

That's what you got to do.

Well, good luck with that.

Step it up, science.

Science for Klaus Schwab, the World Economic Forum, received a whistleblower letter alleging that he and his wife had misused WEF funds.

A lot of the allegations are rich people, business as usual, kind of corrupt dealings, like getting massages with WEF money or his wife planning WEF meetings strategically so she could justify travel.

Love it.

It's not good stuff, but when Alex has accused him of being a mastermind who just tried to kill most of the world with a virus and make everyone else eat bugs, it's kind of weak stuff.

Yeah.

One of the allegations is a bit more serious, though.

From The Guardian, quote, the letter also accused Schwab of manipulating the WEF Global Competitiveness Report in order to curry favor with certain governments.

The publication ranks countries based on criteria such as education, infrastructure, labor market, and health systems, and is a point of reference for the annual Davos meeting.

At this point, this is just an allegation, but if Schwab was doing that, he's a real piece of shit.

Still not the comic book villain Alex tries to make him out to be, but definitely someone who is putting personal interest over the good of the world while pretending to run an organization that was about increasing the good in the world.

The news here is that the WEF Board of Trustees unanimously agreed to an investigation into the allegations that were made in the letter.

It's not criminal investigation.

Sure, sure.

Keep in mind, this board includes Al Gore, the Queen of Jordan, the head of the World Bank, the CEO of BlackRock, and legendary cellist Yo-Yo Ma.

All of these people are, like, they're interested in launching this investigation.

All of them are huge villains in Alex's world.

So he can't possibly think that this is a positive development.

Yeah.

He can't think, like, oh, we got him.

The best he can do is like they're cannibalizing Schwab.

Yeah.

Yo-Yo Ma just released a new album.

So this could have something to do with it.

He needs headlines.

You think this is buzz marketing for Yo-Yo Ma's new cello album?

I mean, I think it's a Stravinsky.

So, like, come on, man.

You're going to need help selling that channel.

Have you listened to the album?

Um, no, but I haven't.

You need to check if there's a hidden track that's like a real like hit-em-up kind of diss track on Claus Schwab.

I, I was, no, I got the I got the record, and I'm about to listen to it.

And I, before I put it on, I had to do something, and so I haven't gotten back to it.

But there was a moment where I was like, Yo, Yo, Ma, good for you, buddy.

Who would have seen that?

It's like the it's like that tenor guy, the opera singer that

Pavarati, yeah.

Like, how do those guys penetrate the major consciousness?

And we all know them.

Well, I think it happens.

I think that Yo-Yo Ma, first of all, in addition to being like a philanthropist and a

changing musician, he also, didn't he do an album with Bobby McFerrin?

Is that what happened?

I think so.

I think that broke into a little bit of like

mainstream.

Spread it about.

Yeah.

I got you.

I associate that in my head.

Evan.

Could be.

So the third story here is about food additives being banned.

And this is about the FDA announcing that they were planning to, quote, phase out eight synthetic food dyes, hopefully by the end of 2026.

However, there's no enforcement mechanism for this, and no law was passed.

The FDA just announced that they were working with the HHS to ask industry to not use these synthetic dyes, and expressing that they wanted to fast-track the approval of four new natural color additives.

Alex said there were 10,000 chemicals that were just banned, but the actual number is zero.

Nothing was banned.

The closest this press release gets to saying that they actually want to revoke authorization for anything is about orange B and citrus red number two.

These two things they say they express in like an introduction.

These are trouble to revoke.

These are trouble.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Okay.

Alex's coverage of this is bullshit, but on a deeper level, he should not be in favor of the FDA banning a ton of chemicals.

At most, he should think it's a state's rights decision, but he probably shouldn't even have that position based on how hostile he is toward any regulation of the supplement industry.

Yeah.

He really is on thin ice.

Yeah, that's trouble.

He's going to screw himself over with these positions.

Okay, so

imagine we're, he's just embellishing, and we are here.

How many

addictive and toxic chemicals do you need before you say we've got too many?

Like, he's throwing 10,000 around.

I feel like that's just too many.

It's way more than is necessary.

Yeah, but I mean, even if you've got like 50,

51's too many.

You don't need that many.

Right?

What are these people doing making all these addictive and toxic chemicals?

Yeah, I don't know.

I think that if you really want to lead this crusade against toxic chemicals and the food and stuff like that, a real great place you should start is probably like cigarettes.

Right?

Because

they're real bad.

They are real bad for a health.

If you want to say that these food dyes are bad, you're going to have a tough time proving that they're worse than cigarettes.

It is going to be hard.

It is going to be very hard.

So you should try that.

Yeah.

Anyway, these are the news headlines.

Yeah.

And we move on to Alex talking a bit about how Trump is basically...

He's describing Trump in a way that sounds downright

messianic.

No.

Oh.

Socialist.

Oh.

Interesting.

Tree by its fruits.

Elon Musk has 15 children.

And then they try to spin it and say, oh, it's not very Christian conservative.

Didn't say it was a Christian.

He said, we don't need to poison people, depopulate people.

Humans are good.

We need more humans.

He's got 15 children.

That's money where your mouth is.

He had one taken and sterilized from him.

His son.

Pissed him off.

But look at Trump.

Major White House initiative

with huge tax incentives and other initiatives to get people to have more children.

The left doesn't want you to have children and wants to replace you with dumbed-down, starving, third world populations they control.

White House assesses ways to persuade women to have more children.

How about an extra, on top of it, $5,000 payment?

How about new increased tax incentives with even bigger tax cuts when you have more children?

On top of that, oh, it's all being announced.

How about tax increases on people making $1 million a year or more?

And then just get rid of taxes on people making $100,000 or less.

That's what they're proposing.

And if you really want to help people, you just get rid of federal taxes

on middle, middle class, lower middle class,

blue-collar.

I mean, those are the defaults you do.

Meanwhile, I own all the corporate publications.

Oh, it's so great not to have children.

This is complete insanity.

Yeah, I don't like it.

And Alex doesn't mean a single word of this shit.

If these policies were being suggested by anyone other than Trump, they would be the definition of socialism to him.

Any politician telling you that they would give you these things,

they'd be a con artist trying to buy your support with promises they would never fulfill.

Fundamentally, all of this is counter to what Alex is supposed to believe.

If he thinks the state should reward you for having kids, then why would he ever be opposed to social welfare programs that seek to alleviate the financial burden that comes with parenthood?

For his entire career, he's not believed that that's something that the government should do.

And why should the government penalize you for being successful?

You want to only tax people who make over a million dollars?

That sounds like a really good way to make sure people only put in $999,000 worth of effort.

Come on, man.

Oh, my God.

You're holding back innovation.

Oh, my God.

To be clear, I think that child tax credits and universal pre-K and extended parental leave, those are all positive things.

I think that shifting the tax burden onto the rich is the right thing to do.

So I don't have a problem with these positions Alex is pretending to support here.

I just know that he doesn't actually support these things, and neither does Trump.

Trump is engaged in a very dumb and damaging trade war at the moment, and he's trying to distract people from the coming price raises that his tariffs are going to cause.

People are about to get really mad about the effects of this shit, and acting like the tariffs are going to replace taxes is a good way to try and control the narrative.

There's no tax bill that Trump or his administration is forwarding.

This is just PR.

And Alex is essentially a regime PR man, so he's selling his audience this bullshit that's directly counter to his alleged political philosophy.

It's wild, the level to which he's sunk.

Yeah.

Yeah, they're just lying.

Just lies.

Just throwing lies around.

Well, if you recall, we just on our last episode, we had that sushi date, and we learned that the Alex Jones problem is that sometimes he just makes shit up.

It does feel like sometimes he just makes shit up, and that is an issue.

Yeah.

It's a good thing that we nipped it in the bud.

Yeah.

Yep.

People took care of it.

Yep.

So, you know,

the left doesn't want you to have kids.

Of course not.

And when you don't have kids, you're depressed.

And, you know, it's not good.

Is that how that works?

Sure.

Okay.

But Alex has to hedge things a little bit and just be like, hey, I know some people can't have kids.

You're not bad.

Right, right, right.

You're not evil people.

Yeah, yeah.

And then you statistically look at the people.

They are the most unhappy.

They die earlier.

They're totally depressed.

And I'm not saying everybody that doesn't have children is a loser or bad.

I'm saying statistically.

You know, there are a lot of men out there that have the love of their life and they die.

Or they get burned.

They marry a young woman they think is great and then she takes them for everything they got.

And then they're bachelors the rest of their lives.

What is happening?

There are a lot of women, same way, get burned by men and decide they don't want to do that or they can't have children.

Nobody's judging them.

In general, though, everything's being incentivized to not have families, and that means not have humans.

You can boil it down to David Hogg, famously, now the DNC chairman, saying Alex Jones thinks it's bad that chemicals in the water are turning frogs gay.

I think gay frogs is great.

Well, because you know, if the, if the, if the frogs are, are all gay, what's that mean?

It means there's no more frogs.

What about senior frogs?

And that is the perfect snapshot microcosm of us.

And that's what all of this is about.

Have you not seen Jurassic Park, sir?

I was going to say, life does not find a way in Alex's estimation.

So, David Hogg is not the head of the DNC.

And broadly speaking, even if somehow everyone magically became gay overnight, it would not mean the extinction of humans.

Alex doesn't fully understand the whole thing with Atrazine and the frogs, but one of the things that makes their situation different from ours is that we have science, whereas the frogs do not.

We have labs and IVF.

So like even if there were no more heterosexuals, which is not a possibility, people could still reproduce.

Yeah.

But anyway, Alex is...

I do like that he's coming up with ways that you can be decent and not have kids.

Yeah.

It seems open-minded of him.

I suppose.

I mean, but he's lying.

Sure.

Because they are bad people for not having kids in Alex's philosophy.

And they will be treated as bad people if Alex's philosophy is allowed dominance.

But they might be bad people by circumstance.

Like maybe they got burned.

Right, but Alex doesn't care.

No, he's lying.

That is the Alex Jones problem.

Yeah, that does seem to be the case.

Yeah.

So Alex starts shitting on the United States, talking about how bad we are and how we have bad health.

Is he allowed to do that?

Yeah, he's.

Love it or leave it.

No one else is, but he is.

Oh, okay.

R.O.K.

Jr., a month ago.

Said, okay, the regulation saying that any chemical a company wants to come up with and stick in a food, most of them petrochemical, that happen to be highly addictive on purpose

and very toxic, that are banned everywhere else in the world for the lowest life expectancy of any industrialized country, that and other things.

We're dead last.

The four industrialized nations, we're dead last.

Education, life expectancy, disease, everything.

We're the worst.

And I would say 2,000 chemicals.

You know, it's actually, they listed over 10,300 chemicals a few weeks ago.

And they said the liability protection is gone.

You're not authorized to put that in there.

The FDA has joined with the HHS secretary, and as of yesterday, they gave the press conference, it's coming out of the drugs, the food, everything.

And they're all scrambling to reformulate.

Good.

I mean, you want action, sweetheart.

Get poison out of our food for our children,

pay people

more of their money

to have children

all of this is a

Trump is a 170 from the globalist

on some of the war stuff and the Israel stuff he he's you know he's anti-war so that's he makes him not you know really but but he's about a 170 and I'll take it I love that we can add 170 as a new uh the number that means nothing out of out of 100 Yeah.

No, it's a 170 degrees.

He's not quite 180.

Oh, okay.

You know, he's like a little 10 degrees off.

Sure, sure, sure.

I think if Alex heard someone else talking that way about the United States, he would say that they were unpatriotic and America bashing and trying to hurt morale.

Feels like it.

And I don't enjoy that.

I'm fine with it.

So the FDA is responsible for assessing the safety of new, quote, food additives.

that are going to be in commercially available products.

They're tasked with determining if something poses a risk to consumers.

However, there's a category of food ingredients called generally regarded as safe ingredients.

This category includes things like baking soda or flour, just things that we have in everything.

The food industry self-regulates the generally regarded as safe designation, and the FDA, for the most part, doesn't get overly involved until there's a problem.

This has been the hands-off process that the FDA has followed since 1997, and there's a lot of concern that the food industry has abused this lenience.

I think RFK sucks a lot, and he shouldn't be anywhere near power, but I don't think that a review of the practices around generally regarded as safe foods is a bad idea.

I have two main issues here, though.

The first is that Alex definitely shouldn't support this.

It's ridiculous.

The second is that what RFK wants to do is meaningless and it lacks any kind of teeth.

Trump and his administration have been targeting the administrative state and trying to force government employees out of their jobs.

Doing full assessments of the long list of food additives that are considered generally regarded as safe would take a ton of time, labor, and money, none of which it appears the government is interested in spending.

Beyond that, last year the Supreme Court struck down the Chevron Doctrine, which severely limited government agencies' ability to set and hold regulations.

Even if RFK and his HHS ban all of these generally regarded as safe products, which they aren't going to do, they will have no enforcement mechanism for it, and the Supreme Court that Trump has created has disarmed the regulatory agencies that could back this up.

Getting rid of a bunch of these chemicals and food is probably a good thing to do, or at least re-examining many of them.

But these people aren't going to do it.

In order to actually do this, you would need to provide massive funding for the FDA and create strong regulation enforcement.

And Trump isn't going to do either of those things.

They're antithetical to their view of how government works.

Yeah.

And I don't know

what the point is

other than, like, kind of grandstanding.

I mean, it feels, well, okay.

The point is what it's always been.

It is

make a lot of noise,

get people looking over here, and then steal all their money.

Yeah.

It's very simple, really.

I mean, it's kind of it's essentially what Alex does.

Make a lot of noise, get people looking over here, and then steal all their money.

Yeah.

We'll ask these people nicely to

not put shit in the food.

It's always worked in the past.

Right.

Yeah.

And then we'll have a little chat with them and then determine a couple of dies that we can ban that aren't going to hurt the bottom line too much.

Sure, yeah.

And have a nice photo op and shake hands.

Is that all that it is?

Because it kind of feels like that.

That's all it is.

So we've heard the introduction of the 170 degrees.

Sure.

We've heard a thousand out of the hundred.

Right.

We've heard Alex give a lot of rankings and grades for Trump.

Right.

Not a fan of Nic Lachey, and that's why we haven't heard 98 degrees.

No, it's true.

Also, his brother was in that group.

He was.

Little-known fact.

I did not know that.

Yep.

Still hate that music video where

this, I promise you,

at the end, Screech.

Yeah.

No, I understand that.

Oof, I did not explain that music video well.

So Alex gives Trump another grade in this next clip.

Okay.

And it's bad.

Oh, no.

It's an F-minus.

It's an F-minus.

For something very important.

Oh, that's not good.

But this is not why I'm playing this clip.

Okay.

I'm playing you this clip because it's one of the most disturbing things I've heard Alex say probably in at least a year.

Oh, that's nice.

Okay.

It's very upsetting.

I have to say, in the Trump administration,

on the front of controlling the border, A plus,

on finding the kids, F minus.

They had 90-something days.

It's like shooting fish in a barrel.

We've gone out and found them.

You can find them.

Everybody else can find them.

All the other researchers find them.

Anthony Rubin, the guests we had on yesterday, all of them.

James O'Keefe, and I can go in an hour and be in a house full of kids, guaranteed sex slaves.

We've done it.

You mean to take you there right now?

So,

I mean, there's over a million of them right now.

It's not 350,000.

That's just the number of the government admits.

So,

I mean,

it'd be harder to find a

Valero gas station and sex slaves.

I mean, I saw something the other day in South Austin,

and it was so freaky and so weird.

I told the police and I just sat there.

I took a few photos.

I've got them at a gas station.

And I just said, you know what, I'm leaving.

Because I was looking at the girls and I was like, they look like they're about 14.

Two white girls and they were dressed like whores and they were waiting for a John on the phone and they were looking at me and like doing this.

I was just like, it was so creepy.

I was just like, I got to go take care of my family.

Plus, call the cops.

What are they going to do?

You know, do I sit here and wait for the John to come get them and follow him?

And I almost did it.

And I'm just like,

I'm kind of at a 35,000-foot view of a general.

And I was like, do generals do that?

And I've done plenty of that.

You've seen me try to block the cars full of unaccompanied little kids being thrown in hatchbacks.

I mean, we've done it.

And I just sat there.

I took a few pictures.

And I said there for about 10 minutes.

And And I was like, I'm sure of it.

I mean, you know what you're looking at.

I was just like, God almighty.

I mean, they were wearing

those like yoga exercise shorts that are all the way up.

They had their lipstick on, all of it.

And I was looking at them.

I was like,

they're both about 14.

I got three daughters.

I'm just sitting there.

God, they're on my phone right here.

I'm like, click, click.

And I'm like.

and I said, no, don't call 911.

You want to have the proof.

I said, do I wait?

I sat there about 10 minutes.

They started looking at me, getting on their phone, calling some mine.

They kind of had that, you know, the shady criminal thing.

Thinking, man, they've been this a while.

And I was just like,

put it in reverse and left.

Sorry, I'm digressing.

You just can't.

It's just, it's insane.

So

we got a problem.

I think you do.

What the fuck was that?

The only comfort I take in that clip is that I don't believe Alex is telling a true story.

That's fair.

I suspect that he saw some young women that he thought were dressed too provocatively outside of a gas station, and he's trying to come up with a heroic story to explain away how excited he was by it.

If he's telling the truth and he really did this, he's unsafe to be in public.

He has no idea how old these women are, and his only evidence that they're involved in sex work is that they were dressed in a way that he thought was too scantily and that they were on their phone.

He has no reason to suspect that these were trafficked minors.

That's all in his head.

If Alex sat there at the gas station for 10 minutes, took pictures of these young women, and considered following them, all because of the story he's made up in his head, he's seriously dangerous.

Taking their picture and keeping the picture is in many ways an invasion of these women's privacy, and the fact that he's kept the pictures and is suggesting that he would show them on his show has the potential to very negatively impact them.

At its core, this is stalker behavior he's displaying, like how he had his head of security, Tim Tim Inlo, follow his wife around and run people's plates, who she was hanging out with, kind of on brand for him.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I don't trust Alex's assessment of a person's dress, so that's not compelling evidence of anything.

The fact that they were on their phone sounds to me like that could have been in response to them seeing him stalking them.

If I were hanging out at a gas station and some dude was staring at me from his car for like 10 minutes, I'd probably call someone too, because that dude's probably going to attack you.

This story is insane.

And like I said, the only reason I don't take it very seriously is I think that Alex is just making this up to sound like he's a crusading hero to his audience.

It's so wild that you could imagine that this makes you sound good.

He sounds like an ambivalent predator.

That's the way this comes off.

Yeah.

Also, it should probably be a way bigger deal that Trump is getting an F-minus on the finding the kids front.

Well, seems like you should be taking that a little bit harder than

you are.

Well, I mean, it's just,

in his mind, a million children missing and being trafficked.

F minus, D minus, A.

It's all the same.

Right.

It's all the same, right?

I would think it's a deal breaker.

You would think.

Yeah.

You would think real hard about the happiness on that one.

But then, you know what?

Even, okay, disregarding all of the obvious fucking terrifying behaviors that he is engaging in.

Let's say we are in a serious, they are being trafficked scenario.

If your justification for leaving them and doing nothing is generals don't intervene, you're also a fucking lunatic.

What?

That's crazy.

That's a crazy thing to think in response to this.

You could think things like, none of my business.

That's fine.

That's fine.

Not generals don't intervene.

What?

No, because I think that Alex got over that rebuttal.

Sure.

Like, I think he realized he's a general, but he does sometimes get involved.

I think if you actually listen to what he's saying,

he is very aware that he knows nothing about what's going on.

He knows that he's making assumptions about these people.

And if he were to just hang out there and wait or stalk them, they might call the police on him.

Well, I mean, the obvious thing to do is, if you're Alex Jones, roll the window down, shout, excuse me, whores.

Are you okay?

Is a John coming?

Can I help you?

If so, do you need security?

What can I do to help facilitate this sex work opportunity?

I used to be a bouncer at a strip club.

Right?

I can help you out.

If you need physical protection, some men are out there.

They're scary out there.

Maybe I can help you out, but I'm not going to get in your life.

If you need security, I'm friends with Joe Rogan, who knows people from the UFC.

They fight a lot.

I don't think that's probably the way to go, though.

Nah.

Nah.

That story made me feel ill when I heard it.

And like,

it's that.

Alex Jones genre of like, if you are telling a sincere thing, you are so fucked up.

Yep.

And if you're making this up,

you're so fucked up.

You're revealing a very fucked up brain.

Yep.

You need help, man.

Yeah.

You need help on so many different levels and ways.

It's true.

Yeah.

So he, Alex, he's talking a lot about RFK's banning of all of these chemicals.

Sure.

And I noticed, like, oh, wait a second.

This is just, this is all just to lead up to an ad.

The advertising has at least paid plays a factor for that revenue, that extraordinary revenue stream in disabling

their capacity or their inclination for skepticism and for critical thinking.

So Americans don't know what they're eating and they don't know the implications of those things.

So we have the sickest mitochondria in the world.

You must have iodine.

It's essential for mitochondrial electrochemical generation.

It is the foundation of it all.

But what else does incredible things for your mitochondrial system and cleans them out and makes them healthier on record?

The Germans invented it for health and energy.

You even know why it worked.

The first patented drug ever.

We don't sell it as that.

It's a supplement, but

methylene blue.

Why does Robert F.

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By the way, that's triple the dose you're supposed to take.

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Yeah, so there's a very long RFK segment, and it just is leading up to this payoff where he's trying to sell the methylene blue.

And

RFK is taking triple dose of methylene blue.

Look at that man.

Yeah.

Nobody looks healthier than him.

Yep.

Yep.

He does not look like he's about to fall apart like a skeleton at any given moment.

Do you want to be good at pranks that are very funny and very cool?

Take methylene blue.

That works.

So, yeah, that was a little bit deflating.

Yeah.

I think, realizing that this might as well have all been an infomercial.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's one long, we're going to have to put a clock on this.

Yeah.

So Alex has a guest on, and this guest I found a little bit shocking.

This is a person named Kathy O'Brien.

Have you ever heard of her?

No.

Okay, we'll talk about her in a minute.

All right.

So at the beginning of their interview, Alex tried to play it off like they didn't really know each other.

Sure.

And so

this was a problem.

When you and I met 30 years ago, I was speaking out on my daughter's behalf.

Not only was she born into MK Ultra Mind Control and exposed to the same military, DARPA, and NASA MK Ultra Mind Control programming that I was.

But she was then thrust into the corrupted so-called child protective services.

And when that happened, I was speaking out because by then I had gained my free thought, my free speech, and it was love for her that compelled me to speak out.

And it was that long ago when you and I first met.

And my gosh, look at the world of change that has happened since those days and the world of change that has yet to happen because we have got to get this problem stopped.

Absolutely.

And just for people that don't know, when I first read your book, it had to be 30, 31 years ago, because I was just kidding on air.

And I had a lot of knowledge, but it was about

you guys with the beta test, and it was meant to externalize into the total culture takeover of mass mind control.

And

then

a lot of this was already come out in hearings and things, but the tens of thousands of kids on record that the CIA funded grabbed in Canada, the U.S.,

and

some were taking from their parents, some grabbed, some of the parents were working with them.

It was coming out of the Pentagon, the CIA,

and then

using these children for couriers, for spies, creating artificial, multiple personalities, electroshock, chemicals.

I mean, literal mind control, man, cheering candidates.

So that's not just a movie with Frank Sinatra.

Imagine with children, that's where you can really do it.

And then now, as I learn more and more, it was 100% real, 100% dead on.

And your book today, because I just reread it last year, is

not evergreen, but ultra-green in that it is more powerful than ever.

And the film, which I need to see, and I want to talk about your film, I need to see that.

People need to see that.

So

as soon as I heard Kathy mention knowing Alex in the past, I knew that he would immediately have to respond to that and explain how they could have been in contact before

because he'd tried to play a game early in the episode where

he was saying he was going to have Kathy on.

He was like, you know, he'd read her book decades ago and the claims are so sensational in them.

I just couldn't believe them.

But now that he's learned more, everything that she said is proven and documented and all this stuff.

The idea is supposed to be that even he thought she was nuts back in the day, but now he sees the light.

That game is kind of disrupted if they actually had met and were working together back in the old days when he was supposed to think she was nuts.

So Alex has to jump in there to try and write the ship.

And that's what you can see in that clip.

There's a reason why this matters that may not be readily apparent to folks who haven't spent a lot of time in the conspiracy community.

If you've taken in a lot of this content, you already definitely know who Kathy O'Brien is, and you already have a pretty set opinion of her.

She's made a ton of wild claims over the years and provided no evidence for any of it.

So a lot of people in the truth-seeking world don't really have a high opinion of her.

She's been someone who's been around forever, and

her basic story is that she was a MK-Ultra abuse survivor

and was owned by Gerald Ford, among other things.

She's kind of like an MK-Ultra Steve Pachenek.

Right.

Did she, was she an MK-Ultra, though?

I don't think there's ever been any evidence that has shown that.

Okay.

There's a reason that Alex pretended not to know Kathy and hasn't had her on regularly, and that's because the pre-Trump audience that Alex had would see it as embarrassing for him to be interviewing her.

Alex having her on is kind of a signal that whatever standards he used to pretend to uphold are out the window, so he has to be kind of defensive about having this booking.

Right.

Kathy's done hundreds of interviews, so it's not like this is a get for him or anything, and all of her claims have been widely discussed in conspiracy circles for the past 30 years.

Over the years, Alex has gotten a lot of calls about Kathy, and he's shockingly consistent in his response.

He's usually very quick to move along, being sure to say that he can't prove anything that she's saying, so he doesn't want to get involved.

The kind of, hey, I'm not going to say it's bullshit, but I'm very hesitant to sign off on any of this.

But then came Trump.

In 2016, Alex realized that there was a way that he could use Kathy, and he was pretty explicit about it on air.

Play a few of these clips, play a couple couple minutes from a Kathy O'Brien interview that she did 15 plus years ago.

She's been on this broadcast a long time ago.

You know, she says that Hillary Clinton raped and abused her.

And I know that Hillary has a very sordid, twisted past.

A lot of credible people have asked me to have her on, so I'm looking to do that, but that's coming up here in a few minutes.

You know, they're having people with no proof, absolutely no proof.

You know, come out and make up all these wild things about Trump.

So I never really went there with O'Brien, but you want us to, you want to play by those rules, we will.

Alex was mad about what he viewed as baseless sexual assault claims being made against Trump, and he thought, I know someone who can make some baseless sexual assault claims.

This is a man who wants to cynically exploit this woman who he's intentionally avoided being associated with for years.

Because he could use her to attack Hillary, Alex warmed up a bit to Kathy, but he still wasn't going to have her on the show.

She was too well-known a character in the conspiracy world, and giving her too much credibility meant that you weren't too interested in evidence.

Alex, having her on is a symbolic act of him declaring that he doesn't care about pretending for that old conspiracy audience anymore at all.

She's going to say some inflammatory shit, and maybe he can get some clickbait for Twitter out of it, and that's really all that matters.

Like, I find it difficult to put this exactly into words.

Like, how much this is a really subtle but profound thing to have her on.

It's kind of like him having Mark Richards on.

Yeah, I mean, this is,

you know, I would almost feel like

what, wistful?

I mean, there's a way to look at it as him being forced back into his early days.

You know, he was here, and then he rose, and then he's fallen, and now he's here again with Kathy O'Brien.

And she's pretty much staying at the exact same place the entire time, right?

So maybe there's something to be said about, man.

You're back at your roots now.

Start over.

I think of this as

more the erosion of Alex's pretend standards.

You know, it's the same thing where those old clips of him talking about how David Ike is the turd in the punch bowl and stuff like that.

Sure.

It's just like, oh, you've let yourself drop from whatever pretense you had of caring.

Yeah.

You know,

back in the day, he's like, I don't talk about alien stuff.

Only things I can prove.

Yeah.

Like, that wasn't true then, but it was a good image.

And that image has fallen apart.

I would say, right, I agree with you.

To me, it's a little bit professional wrestling.

You know, there's going to be a split, and there's going to be a gut back together.

These dum-dums hate each other, and then they get on the same stage together all the time.

You know, like they're a bunch of idiots.

I don't think that he and Kathy work together too closely,

but

he was circling her more than

he wants to.

Now it's right on into the castle gates together.

Yeah.

We both are fighting demons.

Yep.

All right.

Fun.

Fun.

So Alex is going to take some calls with Kathy, and I found this to be a weird thing that he says.

I was about to say, I mean, you've been in exposing this longer than I because you went through it, but we got very slow movement now.

Now things are rushing at light speed comparatively.

So people that are just now waking up, I get you one instant results.

We're getting things way faster.

Praise God.

Stay right there.

You've agreed to stay the next hour.

We're also going to take some calls.

Be respectful, folks, and serious questions here, which I know we're going to give.

This is what he's amazing.

I've been been through a lot.

You get to talk to really the ultimate whistleblower, all confirmed, amazing information.

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You must read it.

I think Alex is being preemptively defensive.

Yeah.

Because I think he has a suspicion that some callers are going to be like, what are you doing?

He doesn't get any of those calls.

Yeah.

I think a fair amount of that is because he only takes a few and they're screened.

Yeah.

But like,

yeah,

I think he has every reason to think like this could go bad.

It doesn't.

Yeah,

I wonder where these guys are, like, with their whole standards thing, because there's got to be a confusion for all of these dum-dums, even Tucker and all this stuff, of like,

how far can we really go with this?

People seem to be coming along a long way and a lot farther than maybe we ever even imagined we could get to.

And it feels like we haven't found the bottom yet.

Tucker got attacked by a demon.

Right?

Yeah.

Like, we could go fucking anywhere now.

It's on the table.

Tucker got up in front of a crowd of people and said, Daddy's home.

Right.

Talking about Trump getting re-elected.

What do we have to say?

Daddy's home and he wants to give you a spanking.

I think at a certain point, there's a morbid fascination that some of them have to have of just like, is there anything I could do to get stopped?

Is there anything these people won't accept?

I would want to find out, right?

Well, yeah.

I mean, Tucker could be sitting around hitting the bong.

Absolutely.

And then just being like, I'm going to fuck around and turn Alex Jones into a prophet.

Absolutely.

No one's going to stop me.

Who's going to stop me?

No one.

We're worried if we can.

We have to ask if we should.

No, I don't give it.

Too late.

Should has gone way out the window.

Now it's all about can.

So Alex avoided association with Kathy for many, many years and then wanted to trot her out out in order to make baseless accusations against Hillary, in order to play defense for

accusations against Trump.

Always fun.

But that didn't happen either.

But now it's very clear what he wants to use her for, and that is anti-LGBTQ propaganda.

Great.

She's going to take some phone calls coming up, about 15, 20 minutes.

We're specifically talking about MKL Trump mind control, the externalization of the trans movement, the left openly sexualization children.

They're making their move and humanity's fighting back.

And the public and private schools, the big grants, literally trying to cut your children away from you and put them in a cult and not tell the parents.

I mean, this is beyond evil.

And it's hiding in plain view, and it's all over the world.

Drag Queen Storytime from Australia to the U.S.

Funded by BlackRock, convicted pedophiles in many cases, men dressed like clowns saying they're a woman.

Little kids being put on their laps.

I mean, this is just

the quote, LGBT parades with like the kids like captured slaves marching at the front, holding flags.

I mean, this is truly satanic.

All these different choirs, the San Francisco choir, we're coming for your kids.

We're grooming them.

We'll get them.

You'll never stop us.

Texas legislature a month ago had these people testifying: we need access to your children.

Give us your children.

We're here to groom them.

They are out.

in the open.

They are making their move.

Kathy O'Brien is our guest.

Toll-free number to join us: 877-789-2539, 877-789-2539, 877-789, Alex.

And remember,

all over the country now, the private big hospitals give a form at birth with dozens of names.

Your child's gay, they're trans, they're queer, whatever, they're all these terms, as if the baby can choose.

But no, now the parents choose.

So this is what Alex wants to use Kathy for now.

She's a high-profile child abuse survivor, and Alex wants to use her story to demonize LGBTQ folk.

It's very clear, and he should be ashamed.

It's garbage.

All of those things he's saying are just nonsense we've discussed in the past, but that last part, the one with the birth certificate, that's new.

Alex is misreporting a story from New Jersey where a new parent was asked on a form they had to fill out what the gender identity and sexual orientation of their baby was.

It wasn't on the child's birth certificate, but you can kind of see how this is still a bit weird.

In 2021, New Jersey passed a law that required hospitals to collect more demographic information from patients, ostensibly in an effort to provide better care.

As a part of following that state law, at least one medical company, Inspira Health, created a form that asked parents for this information about their newborn children.

There are a thousand articles that have been written about this form, and New Jersey Republicans have been making a big deal out of it, but it seems to me like all of these stories trace back to this Inspira Health company.

From everything I can tell, this was a well-meaning piece of legislation that was taken too literally by this one healthcare company to the point where they were collecting demographic information that's kind of ridiculous.

Great.

These hospitals don't need to be asking for a baby's sexual orientation or gender identity, but it's clear what the intention of this legislation is, and that's what Alex is attacking.

He just wants LGBTQ folk to feel stigmatized and unwelcome in public.

And

yeah, the form is a little silly.

Yeah.

It's not cause for the things that he's trying to justify.

No, no, no, but you know, you've got good intentions and then you do some dumb shit like this.

And here we are.

Yep.

It's

a mess.

Yeah.

And

I feel conflicted about Kathy, too, because I haven't thought about her in a long time.

She was a figure that I was well aware of when I would go and read conspiracy blogs and stuff like that back in the day.

And my feeling on it is, I think there's probably some trauma there.

I don't know what it is.

I don't believe that she was owned by Gerald Ford.

Sure.

And

I don't have necessarily reason to believe a lot of the stories.

Sure.

But I don't want to shit on her

too much.

But at the same time, she's expressing opinions.

She's going right along with Alex's demonization.

Yeah.

Like, it's not like Alex is completely hijacking her shit.

Right, right.

She's a complicit participant in it.

Right.

I mean,

I think it really does kind of halfway come down to the whole MK Ultra thing.

Like, okay, so Ken Keese's in MK Ultra,

and then he gets on a bus and starts freaking people out, giving them LSD.

These things make sense, right?

That follows.

Right.

And then you do the books, and then you do the thing.

You know, then you run away to Mexico.

Of course you do, because that's what happens when the government tries to mind control you, right?

Well, but, you know?

yeah.

Now, it's reasonable behavior to then do that.

If he wasn't in the government mind-controlling you thing, that shit's crazy.

That's crazy behavior.

That's not okay.

I don't know.

I mean, I think if you aren't in the government program and you just take a ton of drugs, you might go and try and freak people out too.

Sure, absolutely.

Hunter S.

Thompson wasn't in the MK Ultra, and he was a fucking weirdo.

Yeah, but he was a fucking weirdo.

He wasn't a guy who was in a government mind control program and then did all of this stuff, you know?

Right.

Yeah.

But for every Ken Keese and Unabomber,

there's probably a number of people we don't, we don't know their names.

They might have gone on to live fairly boring lives.

Totally.

Yeah.

You don't know.

But we don't know.

Anyway, I don't know what her story is, and

I don't want to shit on her, but

I find it repulsive.

Yeah.

This whole thing.

And I think it's indicative of a backslide that Alex is experiencing with like whatever I can do for attention.

Anything.

It doesn't matter.

Yeah, I agree.

So we jump to the 24th.

Okay.

And this show starts with what I would describe as a half an hour of Alex rambling about a new James O'Keefe video.

Oh, great.

About how they have uncovered definitive evidence of coup plots within the government.

It is uncompelling.

And it is just trying to,

you know, justify Trump cracking down on anyone.

And

any opposition to him at all is, you know, throw him in a prison.

Yeah.

Just stalling it.

Get rid of those people in the photographs.

You don't need them anymore.

Yeah.

Yeah.

It was exhausting.

I was listening to this episode and I'm like, this is just nothing.

I thought we were done with O'Keefe.

Wasn't he in jail or some shit?

No, he got forced out of Veritas.

Right.

Because he was doing like musicals and stuff with company money.

And I think they said, enough of this.

I don't want you.

We're not paying for your DJ equipment.

That's fair.

And all this.

That's fair.

And so he got forced out of that.

And then he started his own thing.

I think he was incorporated with Tucker somehow.

But that might be a little bit more distant now.

I don't know.

He's just still doing his stings.

You know,

I never thought I would get here.

Like, if you had told me when I was young and reading this particular book, I would never have been like, well, obviously we're going to get to this place someday.

Yeah, if you see the Acorn video, like back in the day, James O'Keefe dressed up like a pimp and all that stuff, you're never going to be like, we're still going to be hearing about this guy in 15 years.

So when I was reading the Scarlet Letter, right, I'm looking at Hester Prynn and I'm going, that's wrong.

They shouldn't have done that shit.

But now I'm living in a James O'Keefe continues world and I'm like, man, we got to brand some assholes.

Big ol' A right on top of his head, asshole.

We move on.

You're talking about an inglorious bastard.

Listen, hey, it is what it is.

Everybody Everybody gets to make their own choices.

So

I was wading through this water, and I was like, there's not much in this here pond.

Yeah.

And then Alex starts talking about Elon Musk's family.

Great.

And so a lot of powerful people that were just going along with the system,

doing their projects that were overall moral, but had to have the approval of the globalists to even run their industries and services

realized there was no more room to coexist with Satan.

Because there's never room to coexist.

You're being put into a trap.

And it got so bad that a lot of people from the grassroots up went, whoa.

I mean, Elon Musk, one of the most powerful people in the world, even at the time, one of the richest.

It's during COVID.

His nine, 10-year-old son,

with the baby mama, wants to go to this elite school.

He doesn't know.

He says, sure.

He had no idea.

They put him in a cult, brainwash him, tell him he's a girl, tell him, hate your dad, never talk to him again, on purpose.

Then that was a head they were getting.

It was mounting it on the wall.

It was the cult victory.

And Musk came and said, hey, stop.

This is wrong.

Let me see my son.

And they just laughed at him.

And then he looked around and saw his brother and his crew getting really sick and dying from the shots.

And then he looked around and he said, it's really this evil?

It's really this bad?

He was always for more people.

He was always for prosperity.

He was always pro-human, but he didn't, you know, he thought Alex Jones was extreme.

He thought it was a little exaggerated.

And then he found out, no.

And these people are so evil

and so arrogant, they thought they could take his child as a prize.

So Alex is talking about Musk's daughter, Vivian, here, and it's interesting to note how Alex doesn't know any of the details of her story, but has chosen to write his own version in order to hero worship Musk.

Alex is saying that Vivian was 9 or 10 during COVID, which isn't true.

She was 16 in 2020 when she became more public about her gender identity.

She's been very public about how much of a piece of shit Elon is and how he's lying about her.

She said, He doesn't know what I was like as a child because he quite simply wasn't there.

And in the little time that he was, I was relentlessly harassed for my femininity and queerness.

Alex is making up basic details about this story and lying about about it in order to enable and glorify Musk's abusive parenting.

And that sucks.

Yeah.

Sucks a lot.

I can honestly say that I don't give a shit what this guy believes about families, about children, about any of that stuff.

Why he thinks having 15 of them is a good idea when he could feed every orphan in the world 20 million times over.

So he obviously doesn't give a fuck about children.

And he can go fuck himself.

Well, but look,

what good is food if comedy is illegal?

I mean,

make all orphans your kids.

Now you're the most have-kids guy ever.

You can pay for all their shit, and you will parent them an equal amount.

Can you imagine what Alex would do with Elon Musk's buying up all the kids?

Adopt all children.

Elon Musk owns all children now.

All unwanted for children live with Elon Musk and are paid for by him.

See, this introduces the, can God create a boulder so large he can't pick it up kind of thing.

Right.

Could Elon Musk pull that off and keep Alex on board?

Or is it just too good of a conspiracy?

I mean, he's buying up all the children.

He's buying all the children.

How could you not, though?

Like, how insane do you have to be to genuinely be like, oh, I need to have 15 kids to populate the earth, but but feeding all of the orphans on this fucking planet.

It's crazy.

Yeah, it's missing the forest for the trees a little bit.

Yeah.

So Alex is in a mood, and it's probably because he's probably about to go out of business.

Good.

But he spends a bit of time ranting about how

they've made a lot of successes.

They won a lot against the globalists.

But a lot of people just don't have the stomach to land the killing blow.

Sure.

And that's what they need to do.

They just need to kill them.

Okay.

Now we have to have the courage to finish the job,

to deal

the blow,

to finish them.

And there are people scared.

Oh, we can't court-martial three-star generals.

Oh, we can't court-martial

high-level officers.

Oh, we can't indict FBI agents for treason.

Oh, but you can shoot the populist president and try to kill him at his golf course

at Pennsylvania.

Oh,

you can kidnap our kids and chop them up.

Oh, you can human traffic a million kids over the border that disappeared.

Oh, you can start World War III.

See, the consequences of letting them continue on are a trillion times a trillion infinity worse than whatever the consequences are for the men

that have got to do what must be done.

I have no fear of what they can do to me or my family because they're all destroyed anyways if this thing wins.

I only have fear of failure.

And if you realize the power you had

And if you simply stepped into that office that God has created for you, that agency of God's will to go do God's will, to fight evil, to expose evil,

you will be as bold as a lion.

I have no fear.

It's a distant memory.

I've not had fear in 30 years.

All I have is determination

and

anger at the idea of failure.

I don't fear failure.

I am angry at failure.

I am enraged that I'm not strong enough, that my oratory skill and my mind cannot transmit the total truth to you so that you would know you have no choice but to fight these people.

If you saw your supposed supposed choice, you would know there was no choice at all.

But people out of fear and laziness

think, what do you do?

Well, it's all of us doing little things together, isn't it?

I'll go to break.

I'll come back with a deep dive on the ongoing coup, and I'll try to do a recap.

It's quick for everybody.

We can get out on that because everybody can't sit around for an hour.

You can sit around for three hours, watch a football game or a baseball game.

come on, man.

We got stuff to do.

I mean, you know, there's a game on tonight.

Yeah, well.

You know, we're all being slowly killed right now, right?

I would argue that people are more likely to watch football than listen to Alex's show because Alex's show sucks.

He's an angry dipshit getting lost in his own feelings and vomiting his fantasies into a mic.

Even if you don't think he's full of shit, it would be difficult to listen to this show and imagine that you're getting any benefit out of it.

Just look at Twitter and imagine what the angriest response you could have to a tweet is, and you've saved yourself some time.

That's as good as it gets.

What Alex is saying in that clip is the kind of thing that you can imagine being played in a historical documentary tracking the rise of an authoritarian ruler.

He's straight up just saying that Trump needs to seize all power and jail his political enemies, and that some people don't have the stomach for that kind of show of strength.

They aren't man enough to do what needs to be done.

And that frustrates Alex, because as he's displaying in that clip, he's done all the work for them.

He's helped create a bunch of the narratives that they can use to justify why Trump doing dictator shit is good.

He's laying out all of these things.

Oh, it's fine to shoot at Trump.

Oh, it's fine to smuggle a million people across the border.

He's laying out his, like, run with this.

I've done it.

Yeah, yeah, yep, yep, yep.

I've given you the bricks.

Make the wall.

Make the building.

That's good stuff.

Like to listen to it, you know?

Here's what I would say, right?

First off, it's always good whenever all the dumbest people get rid of all the competent people in their organization.

They tend to run them great after that.

So that's always good to look forward to.

And then second,

I would like to have a summer stock with

Alex's Henry V.

I would like to hear his St.

Crispin's Day speech.

It is.

He was a little, he was doing a little of the theater.

Yeah.

He was on the boards.

I would like to see him try and improvise his way through a half-remembered St.

Crispin's Day speech.

I think it would still be stirring.

And it would have an interesting and novel take on it.

Yeah.

As long as you gave him a little apple juice.

Well, I think that's the theater, my friend.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I don't think I don't think

I don't think he's going to be good at improvising that sober.

Yeah, I imagine so.

So, Alex is like,

I think he started declaring independence.

Okay.

I feel like.

Up for that.

I think that's where this is, and then it just becomes clear that it's like, oh, man, he actually thinks he's going out of business.

Oh.

Whereas populists, whereas the people, whereas the elected government, whereas the legitimate people,

we just accept that they do this to us.

and to our children and to our bodies and to our minds.

Well, I'm done accepting it.

And I'm not here and my family's not here and you're not here to be shed all over by these demons.

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Okay.

Punched a smurf.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So, yeah,

I don't know.

I think I find this a little bit more convincing than times in the past where he seemed bummed out.

sure and i think it's because it goes on okay he's in this funk for this episode and

i mean

basically what he's expressing is i've run out i've run out of moves there is no other the connecticut supreme court ruled that they're not going to hear my right appeal right i don't have anything left to do there's no more kicks for the can down the road.

And I think that he's just saying that pretty much openly.

But let me just give you a quick update first on Infowars

and its future.

I know that everybody's gotten a little lackadaisical, including me and the crew.

And I don't mean we're laying around and we're bad.

We have been through seven years of lawfare and attacks and dirty tricks of every type

and

groups coming in with armed security being ordered to close the doors by the Justice Department through the bankruptcy with no court order.

I said no, didn't leave.

People couldn't believe they did it.

Then it was admitted in the news and court it happened.

Just insane.

I know.

It's hard to believe.

And then they had a fake auction, the Bloomberg-financed Onion, satirical communist publication.

That all got shot down because it was illegal.

I told you that would happen.

But now they've got a final judgment out of Connecticut with their show trial.

And

it's 20 days after that judgment that they're able to bring it to Texas.

And they already have a turnover order with Guerrero Gamble that ran the show trial.

And under Texas law, it wasn't even supposed to go to her to decide.

That's supposed to get rotates and it's randomly picked.

Yeah, right, out of hundreds of judges, she gets picked again.

She's already said grab everything.

So, but

anytime, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, I expect them to come quickly.

They are going to try to come in here.

And when they come with a court order with the sheriffs, I'm going to say, hey, how you doing?

They're going to either grab all the equipment or they can just put a sticker on the door and say, get out.

It varies how they do it.

And I'm not going to resist them.

I mean, friendly, they're just doing their job, delivering something.

It's not their fault.

The corrupts system and judge and all that.

So if anything, I'll say, hey, we got some coffee

in here fresh.

And then

we've basically already gotten our stuff out.

Even my sports jackets and stuff, I just keep at home now instead of here.

Got a few more things to get out.

Mementos on the walls.

deer I shot 30 years ago.

There's a few things mounted on the wall, a few things we got to get out.

He sounds done.

I mean, when you're taking a deer off the wall,

that's kind of a big deal.

Yeah,

this does feel to me like a resignation.

You know, like

I got nothing else to do.

I thought that Supreme Court thing was going to hang a little bit longer, or maybe they would actually hear the case.

Yeah.

I could grandstand during that.

We could buy a bunch of of time and, you know, but it's not going to happen.

It's going to go back to the Texas courts and

they're going to take my shit.

Yeah.

So hopefully.

It seems like there are not many impediments left.

I mean, you know.

We felt that way many times.

I no longer anticipate.

I just, if it happens, it happens.

If it doesn't, it doesn't.

Yeah.

You know?

It is what it is.

I agree with that perspective, not to get overly like, aha, this time.

But you can't deny his mood.

It's a bad mood.

It's a bad mood.

The man lives in bad moods.

But it's not an angry bad mood.

It's like boat sunk.

What you going to do?

Fuck it.

I mean,

I do like

the literal

embodiment of the problem with what has happened, which is like, well, they're going to take everything

next week, so I'm going to take everything first.

And then when they get here, there will be nothing here.

Obviously, obviously, I'm going to do that.

What am I stupid?

Well, but I think in this case, it's actually like fine, because it's probably not like company assets that he's writing.

It's not like he's taking the servers on it.

Right, right, right.

Although he might be.

Exactly.

Giving them to Alex Jones.

Show.org or whatever the fuck his new show is.

He totally doesn't own.

Right.

It is not that he is taking everything or whatever.

It's that I don't know what he's taking, and I do know he is taking something that he should not have.

Yeah, but if it's deer heads and sport coats.

No, that's not.

I want those too.

That's the point.

That's the point of consequences for his actions.

I want it all.

I want everything.

I've seen his sport coats.

I'm not interested.

I don't want them.

I want to burn them.

Okay.

Yeah.

Take it up with the Texas courts.

I will see what I can do.

So when you're in a bad mood and you're down and you think that your ship has sunk, what do you do?

Ice cream?

No.

Oh.

Interview someone who's arguably a bigger loser than you.

Oh, that sounds actually smart.

So Alex has Canadian politician Maxim Bernier on.

Max Bernier is our guest, and everybody knows who he is now.

I've been following him for years, but he's been doing a great job on all the big podcasts and shows here, getting around the censorship.

And there's a big election coming up next week in Canada.

So it's very, very important that people understand what's happening.

I've also seen the criticisms, Max, that like you brought up when you were here three weeks ago, that, oh, you're going to make the Conservatives lose.

Well, when you look at what they actually do, it's the same thing, just different rhetoric.

So justice be done, may the heavens fall.

It's like AFD keeps losing, but winning more and more.

And now they're set to win massively in the next election, way ahead.

And their policies are being adopted by the other.

Conservative Party just to try to survive.

That's victory.

You're a leader.

You're not trying to conform to the globalists.

So they'll let you in their party when you were already the guy that kept getting voted to be the leader, but they wouldn't let people have it for those that don't know over and over again years ago until you left the party.

And so you've gone out to reform things as a leader and build a real populist conservative party.

I think I've recapped your stance in the real history there,

but that's why I'm supporting you over the other so-called conservative.

So there's a real trend of semi-relevant foreign politicians coming on Alex's show in the past year or so.

And I have a theory that it's because because the bar for semi-relevance in politicians has lowered drastically since COVID.

Yeah.

So Bernier is a long-time Conservative politician in Canada where he's been part of some cabinets over the years.

He ran for the leadership position in the Conservative Party in 2017, but lost.

So he decided he was going to start a more libertarian party, the People's Party.

Okay.

He lost his seat in Parliament after that and has run unsuccessfully to get it back, including he's run twice unsuccessfully, including this year when he came in fourth in his home area of Bos,

where he got 3,628 votes.

That's under one-tenth of what the winner got in that race.

He did not do well.

That's not good.

In that election, the conservatives got trounced, probably slightly due to the old Trump wanting to take over the country and the conservative candidate being a little bit okay with that.

Yeah, that is an issue.

All in all, both the Conservative and liberal parties got a higher share of the vote in that election than the past one.

So it appears that both sides are kind of moving towards more center positions.

If I had to read the charts and give a guess,

it's really wild how much promotion Bernier got from the American right-wing media before this election and how little it mattered in terms of votes for him or his party.

He was all over the place.

He was on with Alex, on with Tucker, Patrick Bet David, just to name a few, and he got 3,628 votes, and his party has no representatives elected.

Yeah.

That's kind of encouraging in as much as it kind of shows that I don't know how much traction a lot of this dumb bullshit has in foreign countries.

Like, you can have this guy on, and it doesn't move the needle.

Well, I mean, or that it's not about,

okay, maybe it's this.

Maybe it's that if you are local, you can do good.

But if you are pushed globally, it has nothing to do with your little area and everything to do with making everybody worse.

You know, like it's not affecting his area where he could get elected.

It's affecting everywhere.

You know, it's the internet that is his

shitting grounds.

Constituency.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, and I think it's kind of the inverse of like, you know, sometimes bands got to go to Europe in order to make it big.

Sure.

You know, like the Beatles going to Homburg.

Yeah,

it's not the popular music in Canada right now.

It's popular in the United States.

Yeah, but I think it's kind of the reverse because I think that it actually makes you less popular in the country you came from to try and pander to this audience in America.

In 2025, it sure does.

Yeah.

So anyway, Bernier sucks.

Yep.

And

I found this dynamic really interesting.

And that is that I think Alex thinks he kind of sucks too.

I think that he thinks that Maxim is not,

like, he's not a winner.

Yeah.

He does not have it.

3,000 is a loser amount of votes.

Yeah, and so I noticed that Alex was pretty early in the interview making it mostly about Bolsonaro.

And that's not good.

I like that.

When you are another foreign politician.

That's fun.

It's very strange.

Real quick, he plays a clip of Bolsonaro being handed some documents in the hospital.

And so that's the audio you're hearing there.

Now, if you look it up under the law, he gets two months until he can go to one of these judicial trials, star chambers.

Oh, sorry, you have five days.

Magically delivered when he comes out of anesthesia.

Max, I mean, this is just

insane.

We have the same in Canada with our court system.

Actually, during COVID-19, we had a Charter of Rights like you, the First Amendment, and the court didn't want to judge about that.

They are saying, you know, oh no, that's not important.

They didn't listen or didn't want to hear our case.

You know, I was handcuffed and put in jail for a non-crime during COVID-19.

And so we have woke judges.

And I just want to give you an anecdote.

I was in the court in Canada to fight for freedoms, and I was a witness.

And the judge did ask me, you know what?

a question

and he said,

what is your name?

And I said, Maxim Bernie, can you spell your name I said yes M-A-X M-A-X-I-M-E-B-R-N-I-E-R and the third and the last question was what are your pronouns in the court court I said to the judge can you look at me I'm a male and I won't answer that question though we have woke judges and all that woke ideology it is in our court in Canada right now so we need to get rid of that

I want to get into your amazing Tucker interview last week.

You made some really powerful points that went viral, and I want to elaborate on that because more has happened now.

If you're Maxim Bernier, you need to recognize at this point in the interview that Alex is not taking you seriously.

He's spending a good chunk of your airtime right before your election complaining about how mean Brazil is being to Bolsonaro.

Yeah.

Bernier's got some good instincts, though.

You see that he steered the conversation right back to Canada, and he tried to get some good topics in there that Alex will like.

He got COVID tyranny and woke judges, so that should be fertile ground.

But Alex just seems unamused and he wants to talk about the interview with Tucker.

It's very clear that Alex does not see Bernier as a contender, which makes sense.

He comes off as a dork.

Yeah.

Bernier got in some legal trouble during COVID for not following public health guidance.

In 2021, he got a ticket for not self-quarantining upon arriving in Manitoba and for putting together a public gathering.

The irony of that is that, according to CBC, quote, no more than 15 people were in attendance for his rally.

So it was probably pretty close to being under the safe threshold for gatherings even at the time.

Ouch.

So that's that should he's not

very popular.

That doesn't seem like it.

I always like you know how so there's always the the German word German is the language that I think is we're most familiar with the idea of people like coming up with these words that are somewhat untranslatable into English.

Yeah.

You know, and then there's uh

Mandarin words,

those kinds of things, you know, that we that are just said.

And so you'll be speaking English with somebody, and then out of nowhere, they'll just drop a word that's clearly from there.

And they're like, I'll try and explain the concept to you.

America so much has that with the worst possible words.

Like, it doesn't matter, like, woke.

Like, you could be listening to somebody speak Swahili and then out of nowhere, woke judges.

And you're like, fuck, what does it take to get these people free?

Yeah.

It's, it's, it seems,

It is disorienting.

Yeah.

You know, just like this guy with

woke judges.

Because it really is an untranslatable concept.

It is only, you can only understand it if you are speaking woke judges.

Because then you're like, oh, well, it's some lunatic American thing.

Yeah.

Well,

you can translate it, and maybe not precisely.

But it involves grievance.

Right.

It somehow is this person is angry about someone else being angry.

About what?

Let's not ask the about what question.

It's something, something is making them mad, and that is what this judge is woke about.

There is a bigotry that lies deep within them that is being sort of poked by someone else being polite, and it makes them really mad.

Yep.

So they call it woke.

Yes.

Cool.

Something like that.

Good electoral strategy.

So I think that Max

sucks.

Yep.

And I know that he doesn't like multiculturalism because he says so in this next clip.

That'll help.

Before they start complaining about how there's not enough white people at the Eiffel Tower.

What are you going to do?

We have that in our country, Alex, because of mass immigration and because of multiculturalism.

We are saying people, we open our doors to immigration and we are telling people, you can come here, don't share our values, keep your culture, and you know, we will promote you keeping your culture and not being part of this country.

The federal government is doing that.

So you have people who are coming here.

They are coming in or need to have a better economic future.

And they're living in ghettos.

And some of them don't speak in Germany.

Well, I saw friends yesterday at the Eiffel Tower area.

And look, nothing against Africans, but there was no

people as far as it was Africa.

And then the governments go, oh, white people are bad.

Europeans are bad.

And they sign them up for a communist anti-European mindset.

The whole Kalergi plan, the whole replacement migration.

People that don't know, we've been flooded with replacement migration.

So just to be clear, Alex calling that the Kalergi plan is explicit white supremacist signaling.

He knows exactly what he's doing.

Using that terminology, he's pointing to a certain group.

And that's

awful.

These people are awful.

Just,

hey, listen, nothing bad about Africa.

You're done.

You're done.

You've already said something bad about Africa.

Hey, nothing bad about Africa, but there's too many black people in Paris.

I don't understand how that isn't against Africa.

It's against something.

Yeah.

So there's a caller who calls in who's against Maxim.

Okay.

And he has a pretty good position.

All right.

And that is what Alex tried to be defensive about as he was introducing his guest,

which is that he has no chance of winning, and he is just going to guarantee that the liberals end up winning because

His party only exists to take votes away from the people.

Right, right, right, right, right, right.

So, this caller brings that up, and Alex is not happy.

Hi, Alex.

Thanks for taking my call.

Just a quick comment before the question.

In the analytics from the last election, there was approximately 20 seats that would have gone conservative, but the PCP party

had a small amount of votes, which actually pushed the vote over to the liberals.

And I want to say I align with

Max in the majority of what he says.

And Alex, I probably align with 99% of what you say, too.

But there's a bit of sophistication here because I think Kearney would be the worst thing possible for

the country right now.

I live on Vancouver Island, and it's going blue.

It's going conservative.

And there's just about a sweep that's going to take place.

My concern is, Max, I think your influence should penetrate all the parties of Canada.

My concern is, though, is we're in a squeeze right now where we just don't have the time.

And well,

listen, I addressed this at the start.

We addressed it last time.

It's a reasonable point.

It's a philosophical issue.

Leadership versus going along.

Do you want to take three teaspoons of cyanide or one teaspoon?

They'll both kill five elephants.

It doesn't matter.

Or do you, okay, let the commies, let the globalists stay in, make it worse, get it better, instead of having fake conservatives that just drag this on.

Why didn't the conservative party let Max be the leader when that's what they voted for?

See, my issue is: why is he supposed to just sit there

and then watch this go on?

So I think that's let's let Max respond to that.

Yeah, you have a point there.

I understand that concern, but don't blame me if Polyevi is not a real conservative.

I do love the caller bringing up a very reasonable point and something that's backed up by data, something that is a concern for him politically.

Sure.

Sophisticated approach to electoral politics.

Sure.

And he's asking this question of Maxim, and Alex jumps in, starts responding for him, runs out of steam, and then is like, oh, wait, the guy who got asked the question maybe should answer.

Oh,

this is kind of his thing.

This guy I don't respect at all.

Maybe he should chime in.

Yeah, that would make sense.

Yeah.

I don't think it was that big of a deal.

I don't think they spoiled many of the elections this time around, but the last election, the People's Party had a larger share of the votes.

Yeah.

So they, like, they had a bit of a boost

during COVID stuff.

During the COVID lockdown protests and all that, it was fairly popular, and they rode that wave.

But now that that's gone and

over,

like the enthusiasm for their party is

somewhat diminished.

Yeah, yeah.

I mean, that's why you got to go full North Korea.

We'll ruin every one of your elections until you do what we say, conservatives.

You'll never get in power again.

We'll blow up this whole fucking party.

I don't give a shit.

Max might be in for that.

That's what he, yeah.

Or you could say something like, it's not all about me.

I guess I want the things to happen.

Yeah, that sounds crazy, though.

So, Alex,

he's running out of time with his very special guest.

Sure.

And so he's like, hey, can you stay a little bit longer?

I need you to wait on the phone while I plug.

That's amazing.

You know, at the federal level, we are your option because we want a country that would be Ottawa, that would be decentralized, radical decentralization, will give more autonomy to your province, but to every province also.

And, you know,

I understand the separatist movement.

I was in Alberta a couple of days ago.

My advice to you would be vote for the People's Party at the federal level and vote for an independentist party at the provincial level if you want Ottawa to take you seriously.

I know they are displaying that.

Max, we're almost out of time, and I bet you're on a busy schedule.

If you can't do it, it's fine.

Can you do five more minutes to do a few other topics?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yes.

We got to go to break in two minutes.

It's a two-minute break.

We'll come right back for five minutes, about seven, eight minutes total.

I don't know if we can get to Bryce and Juan because I got questions I forgot to get to.

So we can't get any more callers.

Sorry to the callers.

Tried to get as many as I could.

Appreciate you.

We're going to go to break Back in two minutes with Maxime Bernier here with us today.

And be sure and check out their website and the party and at Maxime Bernier there on X as well, peoplespartyofcanada.ca.

All right, back in two minutes, but listen,

they have a final judgment.

They tried all the other illegals up to shut us down.

They're coming next week, as early as Wednesday.

It would probably take a few days, Thursday or Friday.

We need all the funds we need for the Alex Jones network and what's been set up and what's going down and the legal battles because they're going to come after me even more after that.

So, yeah, he's got a guy who's, in theory,

a leading politician in Canada whose election is coming up days after this.

And he cuts him off in the middle of explaining the electoral strategy that he, Maxim, is putting forth

in order to ask him to stay longer.

And then Alex spends a while plugging.

It's just, it's a fascinating way the brain works.

I mean, it's definitely

like it is, it is one of, I think, his real

skills, not skill, but like one of his real survival talents.

One of the things that has truly taken him this far is an instinctive understanding of power dynamics.

Like the way he just exploits power dynamics is so

clinically psychopathic that it's it's like it's a gift like he's he's bullying this guy for no reason other than power dynamics.

This is the guy I bully.

You know, like it is, it is insane.

Well, you know, like the real Trump, Alex can't act like a dick to.

Right.

But this guy wants to be Trump in Canada.

Totally.

And he doesn't have the juice.

He doesn't have whatever it is that

I don't give a fuck and I might kill you energy that Trump has.

And he comes off like a dork.

And Alex knows that he can push him him around a little bit, be an asshole to him.

And I think that probably makes him feel good.

Yeah, especially on a bad day like this.

It does feel like the way to do it is because Alex is such a star fucker, just act like a star, whether you are or not, and he'll probably go along with it.

He's an idiot.

Yeah.

Yep.

Just wear shades.

Yeah, absolutely.

So

they finished their interview.

And Alex has been building up a bit like there's going to be a big announcement kind of thing at the end of the show.

He's like, I'm going to take some calls on a topic that I'm going to announce after I get back from the break.

Gotcha.

And so he comes back and he's got this big announcement.

And you'll never believe.

And then they were bragging to folks in Houston from our sources that were right there

about their receiver and all the rest of it and how they're coming in here.

And they were.

Saying again that it's going to be Bloomberg and the Onion.

I mean, how is that going to look after they went on national TV in November and said they bought it and it was real, it was a real auction?

And that was November.

It was my earnings pledge to them.

Idiots.

Never before done in a court of a bankruptcy or not real monetary instruments.

Bernie Madoff type stuff.

And then trying to shut us down with a U.S.

trustee without a court order.

I mean, all of those shenanigans of the Justice Department funding the lawsuits and the show trials.

And then they're going to come in here, close it, and then use the exact same graphics, which you already did at the Onion, and the same font and say they're me, and they said on the national news to misrepresent and confuse people so they can discredit our work, which they're so scared of, by making it a joke and pretending they're us with Infowars.com.

So

there's a few things I need to hit that will hit news.

I'll open the phone's up and take a few calls on the subject with you, but I got some other news I need to hit as well.

Today's the day, the last day,

that I think you should go to InfoWarStore.com and order any product because I think by next Friday we'll be closed.

And then it goes to the shipping department up in Denver.

You'll get your products.

They ship stuff like a day after it comes in.

But I think like today I need to go turn InfoWar store off.

Because morally, I'm not going to sit there and have people putting orders in and then it and then and then potentially, who knows,

because it's paid and it's done and it's done by the shipping people up in Denver and all that.

But

you could order something, you know, the day we're shut down and it would get shipped out.

But I think it's time either today or tomorrow just to shut it off.

So,

I mean, that's how serious this is.

I mean, I've got

five or six sports jackets here in my bathroom, in my dressing room.

I got to get those out.

I mean, that's gotta be real hard stop talking about the goddamn sport coats those are very important

um so yeah i i think that like the uh i'm gonna just fucking close the store don't buy don't buy shit from there anymore let's move everything over that feels more like a sincere expression of alex yeah like uh being like shit's going down yeah him screaming and like i'm gonna hold down the fort forever and all that stuff is very it's very performative and there's there's a lot of bluster behind it But, like,

this is just a regular business decision.

Yeah, yeah.

Funnel traffic over to this because this, uh, I'm not going to make any money off this anymore, ever again.

It's time to onboard you into our new process.

It's a cynical expression of it's over.

Yeah.

And I think that I take that a little bit more sincerely than his more dramatic.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

This is about money, which I believe

he actually cares about.

Yes.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So it may be the case that the InfoWar store is dead.

You'll have to go to the alexjones network.com, a completely different place.

The InfoWar store is dead.

Long live at the Alex Jones store.

That's how intense and how frightening and how real this is.

But

that's how urgent this is.

But enough InfoWar store.

You know, the Great X2, all the stuff's in stock.

You want it.

It's there.

You'll get it if you order it today.

But

we may just put a note up there saying this is about to be seized.

And if you want to still order there, you know, that's fine.

But I just want to be clear: the alexille store.com

is not owned by me.

It's owned by great folks, Bigley, that have all their other people and all their other shopping carts they do for the Hodge twins and everybody else.

We'll put InfowarStore.com.

Take that down, please.

And we'll put the Alex Shillstore.com up, please.

And

so,

in fact, that's the last time you're going to see InfoWars Store on the screen.

Wow.

It's almost like a ceremonial taking down of a flag.

It's going to fold up the ad for InfoWarsStore.com.

Wild.

In a way that is uniform.

You know, you have to have the right angles and the corners.

No, there's a couple of R's in there.

You never know where they're going to wind up.

So, yeah, you got to make sure that those are facing each other whenever you're going to be able to do it.

There's some guns they can salute with in the studio.

There's definitely whiskey.

Somewhere there's whiskey.

There'll be a toast.

Yeah.

This is like

sad.

No.

No, I mean, it's sad in a different way.

Descriptively, it's sad.

Descriptively, it is sad.

I don't give a shit, but it's.

Yeah.

He seems real bummed out.

I think I would say it's sad in a grander sense of like

the meaninglessness of all of this could not be more expressed

than,

you know what, I'm going to have to take the InfoWars store down and put the Alex Jones store up.

That is fucking Looney Tunes.

Yeah.

You know?

Yeah.

I do wonder, though, like.

Wabbit season.

Duck season.

I think, though, that, like,

it might actually make a pretty sizable dent.

Sure.

I think that anytime you try to move people over from one thing to another, you're going to have some amount of non-retention.

Totally.

And Alex, I think, probably relies on a lot of

people who have been around, you know?

Yep.

I don't know if he's going to be able to onboard everybody over to it.

So

I think that even though it is this stupid thing of like Infowars store is now Alex Jones' store,

that might

make a difference.

It will.

No, it just, it will, but that's not what I'm talking about.

Right, right.

So, you know, some people might think that Alex has a need for money.

Sure.

And he does.

Because he says that a lot.

Oh, so much.

Yeah.

He needs a lot of money.

Yeah.

But have you ever considered that maybe what he's doing is giving you an opportunity to give him money?

That's a good point of view on it.

And if you don't, you're crazy and ungrateful of the opportunity that he's given you.

That sounds true.

I need your backing because the magnitude of what I can do to these people

is directly connected to the variable of how much you spread the word, how much you re-upload our clips, how much you pray for us, and that's critical, and how much you support us.

It is not

in the final equation, you giving something up to go to the alexhillstore.com and get incredible supplements that will blow you away and work the best of anything out there.

It is not you giving something up to get a Patriot t-shirt and see what it's like to meet all these like-minded people and find out just how popular liberty is.

It is an opportunity for you to really be in the game in the fight against the globalist in the funds we get from that.

And like anything good, you also get the great benefit of the products.

But people have it drilled into their head that everything's just entertainment and everything's this and that.

Well, everybody's got their hand out.

There's all this media and all this stuff.

Well, what media has been dead on and told you of the future?

What media is under massive attack by the bad guys?

I'm defending you because we've all got to defend each other together.

So I'm going to do this regardless.

But you understand the missed opportunity for the vast majority of you that never take the step to actually go to the alexchillstore.com and actually get the very best methylene blue, the very best Irish C-Moss, the very best Chili, the very best Turmeric.

I mean, it's ridiculous what it does.

What a piece of shit.

Listen.

We shall all hang together or hang separately if you don't buy Alex Jones' rope.

That's what's going to happen.

It's just how it works.

Yeah.

That's

rough.

Woof.

Yeah.

I love marketing

because

it is all that.

Yeah.

You know, it's just that whenever it's that, you're like, wow, that's marketing, baby.

Yeah.

What do they call that?

Like, fear of loss of gain?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You know, like that kind of tactic where

you can't afford to not get this.

Exactly.

Yeah.

You can't afford to not give out this money.

Like, man, you've got to do something different.

It sucks.

This is the worst.

So the feeling that I got listening to this episode, there was a bit of like, it does feel

in a way, Alex seems at peace with the eventual and coming

inevitable.

Yeah, and soon.

Yeah.

Lack of InfoWars being his anymore.

All right, let's take some calls.

Let me just say this.

I'm going to elaborate in the next few days more on this.

InfoWars, the term info war is generic.

It means information warfare, the truth, lies, battling each other.

And they hate the fact that nobody thought they'd get the URL of what this is all really called in 1997.

I did.

I think we paid like $10 for it.

And then they can just take that away and then have the onion pose and act like me and put out this info.

And

it's going to be a joke.

It's going to blow up their face.

And I already seen people in the last year that are trying to shut us down intensely saying, you know, we're all to be the InfoWar now.

Now, you just put in your tagline, whatever our new website is on X or wherever, and you say, I'm Spartacus, I'm the Infowar.

This is all an InfoWar.

You're all in the InfoWar.

There's a war on for your mind.

So if they think they're going to go out there and steal my identity, as they've already tried, it's going to be successful, it's going to backfire.

So it's simple.

Just promote the new stuff we launch,

the Alex Shones Network, and other stuff.

And

everybody's the Infowar.

This is the InfoWar.

They think think taking a studio or a name away does anything?

No, it doesn't, except show people how afraid the bad guys are of what we've done legitimately here and how we've politically destroyed them globally.

They're falling apart.

They're collapsing.

They're on fire.

And then they go, we'll just go punish that guy because he was a big part of it.

How did it work?

with Trump.

How did it work with the mug shot and trying to kill him?

It backfired because God's on our side.

And if God's with us, nobody can stand against us.

It's that simple.

So you're all the InfoWar.

That's the key.

We are all the Infowar.

And the Infowar lives forever.

And this great crew.

Love you.

Love you too, buddy.

So this, like, I think that he's delusional.

Like, this idea that InfoWars being taken from me isn't going to mean anything.

I think that's.

It's simultaneously true and so untrue.

Like, in terms of his ability to run some kind of bullshit, nonsense, outrage bait, clickbait kind of content

that sells supplements.

Sure.

His ability to do that is going to be unchanged, regardless of the name.

But it is a giant loss to his ego.

Yeah.

It is,

it's something he'll never really live down: is that like you built this whole thing and now you don't own it anymore.

That's tough.

And I think that that's why,

whatever is done with it, you know, I think it's important to not

fall into a trap of what Alex is saying.

You know,

he's saying that someone's going to buy it up and then they're going to distort and misrepresent me and hide my content or whatever.

I have a strong belief that Alex looks worse with context.

And if anybody owns his shit, they should put as much of it out as possible.

Sure.

In as long form and full context as possible.

Yeah.

Because he's damned by context.

He's saved by editing and selective presentation of shit.

Yeah.

So I think that if anybody does end up owning it, it should just all like release every single old backlog thing that he doesn't put out.

Yeah.

All those episodes where he pretends to predict things.

Put them all out in their full context.

And let the light of

examination shine on it.

Yeah.

Show even more than what Alex shows.

Like, he holds back shit.

I mean, I'm imagining, well, maybe.

Dan, people have accused me of being a very cynical man.

Sure.

Bordering on pessimistic.

But

I would imagine that Roger Stone and his crew are going to wind up getting it.

I have no idea.

You know, like,

the Onion would be stupid to buy it.

They've already got what they, you know, they got the announcement.

They got people to subscribe that we're going to subscribe.

They don't want to actually spend money on it.

It'd be a waste.

Yeah, I don't know.

I don't know what anyone's decision process is like, but I would give Roger the same advice.

It would work against his interest, but I would give him the same advice.

Release all of those old episodes that Alex doesn't put out.

Right, right.

I'm just, you know, it's still going to be his.

I don't know.

We'll see.

We will see.

We will see.

So, Alex is taking calls, and it's really a bummer fest because his big announcement is: I think I'm going to close the InfoWars store.

There is that.

And that's what he wants to take calls on.

What a shit way to end the show.

Thankfully, he gets a call from a guy who starts out sounding real smart and real, like, hey, Alex, you did good.

Sure.

You did good.

And then he veers into Crazy Town.

Sounds good.

Big

Corona in Ohio.

You're on the air.

Hey, Alex.

How you doing, sir?

Man,

I'm alive, and the world's wild.

First time talking with you.

It's been a long time.

I've listened to you

since like Scanner Darkly movie.

For a few words of encouragement, okay?

Everything you just said,

you're answering your own question.

Okay?

You're doing everything correctly.

You're thinking correctly.

I'm a highly intelligent person just like yourself, and I analyze the logic, map, the direction, the probability, everything that goes into making that decision on what to do.

And I just wanted to say, as a listener in the background that respects you highly and your entire crew,

you're doing things right, sir.

No doubt in my mind.

Problem is, we're fighting evil.

The purest, darkest,

most disgusting people in the world.

And

I'm under attack, too.

Just for supporting info wars.

In my own personal world, I'm under attack.

Careful.

Just for supporting Trump, I'm under attack.

just like yourself and everybody else who supports i feel like ex-wife is coming in here

right because we won't surrender to satan

no

because we know it's certain death if we do

and you may gain

wealth fame

prosperity

you know by going in that direction

and falling to those temptations.

Let me tell you, I have sex operatives.

I just had one this week coming out of Colorado.

And I'm like, hey, this ain't the first time.

Believe me.

They watch us.

You know, I see it on my ex account.

And if you need to know it, it's at Big Corona 1.

All ran together.

Okay.

I tried.

Brother, I got to jump.

I appreciate you.

And God bless you.

I just want to give everybody thank you.

Hey, shit's getting weird.

Boo, you got a lot of divorced energy coming at me real hard here.

I really liked it when you were consoling me and telling me about how you like stats and numbers and logic and all that stuff.

That sounds smart.

Once you started getting weird and saying you're hounded by sex operatives, there's a lot of honey pots coming from Denver.

Okay.

Okay.

You're in Ohio?

Is this good news for us or bad news for us?

Hey, they're coming.

There's a lot of them.

This is not my first time.

This is not my first time.

What does that mean?

There's a lot of sex operatives.

Tell me about what that means to you.

And for what reason is anyone trying to sex operate?

Right?

Like,

what is happening?

He supports Trump.

Sure.

And likes Alex.

I'm fine.

And therefore, sex operatives

are

all over the place.

What does that mean?

They're trying.

to come like they're trying to create some kind of a honeypot situation where he has leverage against him to stop spending $20 a month at the InfoWars store.

What could he possibly have interpreted as a sex operative situation?

Like, what happened?

Someone was nice to him for the bar?

Yeah, like the idea of not asking more questions about sex operatives.

Obviously, Alex is like, well, we got to move on.

My next question is, let's go.

Tell me about this sex operative.

What was this person like?

Well, but see, I think this is where Alex's instincts are better than yours for the job at hand.

Right.

Because you ask follow-up questions and this is going to get real.

Oh, it's going to get real messy.

Yeah, fine.

Very excited.

He, on his own, took us in quite a direction.

Oh, absolutely.

And Alex is still kind of...

I mean, he still has the scent on him of the guy who took pictures of young women in a parking lot the day before, telling that story.

So

he's a sex operative in a way.

That's not the call you want when

you're just trying to feel better about the fact that maybe your business is going under.

That just can't be.

That's such the worst non-sequitur to then have.

That drives me insane.

Sex operatives out of Denver?

You know that I have so many questions about that.

There's so many of them.

This is one first time.

I want all of the information here.

Oh my God.

This is where you and I are different.

What was the first sex operative like?

That's another question I want to have.

Were they similar?

Do they have a style?

Is there a certain

pattern?

I mean, he's indicating that there's some sort of like

are you just talking about women?

Anyone that says hello.

Like, what's going on here?

Anyone who's not wearing a MAGA hat?

Absolutely.

Yeah.

Sex operative.

See, this is where you and me are different in terms of curiosity.

Like, if Alex mentions like some old document or something like that, I'm curious.

I want to hear, I want to know what he's talking about.

I don't give a shit.

This guy talked about sex operatives in.

Tell me more.

I'm so hungry.

Meanwhile, I'm going to pass.

I don't want to get in this guy's business.

So we come to the end of this, and things don't look great in Alex's world.

And

we'll see how the next

stretch of time plays out for him.

It could be quite bad.

You know, the thing that's so stupid about it, the thing that I hate so much about it, is that he's absolutely going to feel better once it's gone.

Because

it just won't be there anymore.

You know, like it won't be there.

Yeah, and he can pretend to go on the attack.

Totally.

You know, like this is so much defense for him that it'll be a very big relief just from a narrative standpoint if he just shakes it off his back.

Totally.

No, you're right.

Like the reason that this is horrible is because it is a huge blow to his ego.

And that's why he can't let go of it.

That's why he's holding on so tightly.

He doesn't understand that he is the source of his own misery in this regard.

And if he just lets it go, all of a sudden this weight will be gone and he'll be able to move forward lighter.

Yeah, like Roger Stone, if there's one lesson from him, it's like always attack, never play defense.

Yep.

And Alex, you know, he's not able to do that as well.

And he could free himself up to do a little bit more of it, or at least pretend to.

But yeah, I think we could be entering interesting territory, or we might be having this exact same conversation in a year.

Trapped together.

Who knows?

I did love that that subtle reminder of November was when that...

Ooh, yeah, baby.

Time flies.

That was a long time ago.

Yep.

So we'll be back with another episode.

But until then, we have a website.

Indeed, we do.

It's KnowledgeRight.com.

Yep, we'll be back.

But until then, I'm Neo.

I'm Leo.

I'm DZX Clark.

I am the Mysterious Professor.

Woo, yeah, woo, yeah, woo.

And now here comes the sex robots.

Andy in Kansas, you're on the air.

Thanks for holding.

Hello, Alex.

I'm my first time caller.

I'm a huge fan.

I love your work.

I love you.