Introducing: Leave the Gun, Take the Cannoli

Speaker 1 In the history of cinema, few films have been as successful as The Godfather.

Speaker 1 When it was released in March of 1972, Francis Ford Coppola's gangster epic set a new standard not just for movies about the mafia, but for movies in general. It's my most important legacy in life.

Speaker 1 Although, if you talk to the people who made it, The Godfather's prospects for success were far from assured. In fact, before its release, they were pretty bleak.
And they said, we're finished.

Speaker 1 This is over. The lady's not gonna work.
You can't get rid of those guys. It's a disaster.

Speaker 1 people close to the movie have talked a lot over the past 50 or so years about how difficult it was to make the godfather but in leave the gun take the cannoli my co-host mark seal and i strip back the varnish of movie history and talk to never before heard-from sources to get at what really made the process so arduous for starters mario puzzo the author of the book on which the movie is based only wrote it because he was deep in gambling debt This dead broke writer comes into his office with a 35-page treatment under his arm, And pretty soon over cigars and conversation in Evans' office, the two men strike a deal.

Speaker 1 And when the studio behind the film, Paramount, tried to enlist a bankable director, it couldn't find one. Its solution?

Speaker 1 To hire Coppola, a relative unknown who proved to be every bit the visionary they'd hoped for.

Speaker 1 The only problem was that the Paramount executives and producers didn't always seem eye to eye with Coppola's vision.

Speaker 1 Jack Ballard was hired basically by Robert Evans to be there on the set and to haunt me.

Speaker 1 At every turn, from script writing and casting to editing and choosing the music, Paramount fought tooth and nail against the director.

Speaker 2 Francis just got so sick of everything he goes, I'm going to Sicily, just cast my fing movie. Excuse my language.

Speaker 1 But that's just the beginning. Serious trouble came for the Godfather when the real-life mafia tried to stop the film from being made.

Speaker 1 The five families did not want us to shoot that picture in New York. The mob thought Hollywood had given Italian Americans a bad rap, and they were certain the godfather would only deepen that stigma.

Speaker 1 So they waged a campaign of threats and scare tactics. But the studio and the filmmakers were not to be deterred by what at times amounted to more than threats.

Speaker 3 My kids came in all hysterical. They'd heard gunshots.

Speaker 1 They worked their connections and did everything they could to win over the people the film was based on. Well, at least most of them.

Speaker 2 I look over at Sinatra's table and oh my god, Mario standing at Sinatra's table. And I looked at Mario and his face was ashen.

Speaker 1 Despite the almost unfathomable hardship of making The Godfather, it minted a new generation of stars.

Speaker 1 It also made over $250 million, won several Oscars, and redefined America's relationship to one of its darkest, most shadowy forces, the mafia.

Speaker 1 No, I'm saying, when you heard the terminology, crime don't pay,

Speaker 1 crime pays.

Speaker 1 The result was a modern masterpiece that bridged old Hollywood and New Hollywood and managed to win over the American public and the mafia alike. And the projectionist called me.
Hey, guys, Mr.

Speaker 1 Ready, I've been a projectorist my whole life. No one ever gave me a thousand dollar tick.
Leave the Gun, Take the Cannoli is based on my co-host Mark's best-selling book of the same title.

Speaker 1 And on this show, we call upon his years of research to help unpack the story behind the Godfather's birth from start to finish.

Speaker 1 We sift through innumerable accounts, many of them conflicting, and try to get to the truth of what really happened. And more importantly, we find out how a story that starts like this.

Speaker 1 So, I pull up next to Randolph. I roll my window down and I just stick my ass out today.
This is the first day he's met us. Ends like this.

Speaker 1 You gotta understand, nobody ever envisioned the success of this movie. Leave the Gun, Take the Cannoli features new and archival interviews with Francis Ford Copla.
Yes, that was a real horse's head.

Speaker 1 Robert Evans. It's called Living Godfather's Godfather.
James Kahn. Jimmy, it wants you to come and test.
He said, test what? You got to force you on me to drive around a block? Al Ruddy.

Speaker 1 Mob said, I got a call from these Italian guys. If they want to see the movie, it means there'll be a lot of trouble.
Talia Shire.

Speaker 2 Everything was a very arduous chess game.

Speaker 1 And many others. We still aren't entirely sure what's true and what's not.
But we can promise that our 10-part series gives everyone who is involved a chance to tell their side of the story.

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