Terrell Suggs Reflects on Legacy, Teamwork, and Raising the Next Generation

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Speaker 1 People forget to understand that, you know, that we're human and we wear multiple hats. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 We're not just, you know, professional athletes or football and basketball players or what have you. You know what I'm saying? Like, we're fathers first.

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Speaker 1 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another exciting episode of Mecha Unplugged. And today we are talking to my GOAT.
You all know I'm a patriot, but you're going to learn a little secret today.

Speaker 1 We're talking about from gridiron to greatness, this guy is a walking highlight reel. He is one of the most dominated defensive forces the game has ever seen.

Speaker 1 He's a Super Bowl champion, a defensive nightmare, defensive player of the year.

Speaker 1 I could give him all the accolades in the world, but what I want you to know is he's a true leader on and off the field. Ladies and gentlemen, give it up for my GOAT, Mr.
Terrell Sucks.

Speaker 1 Terrell, how you doing today, brother? What's up, man? What's happening? Thanks for having me. Man, I am glad that you are here.
There's so much I want to talk to you about, man.

Speaker 1 And I'll make unplugged. I like to talk to people about their because, right? That thing that's deeper than your why, that true passion that you have.
And I know from time to time it changes.

Speaker 1 So if I were to say today, T-Sizzle, what's your because, man, like, what's that purpose that you have? My children. My children.

Speaker 1 I think now, you know, I want to be, you know, even better dad than I was a football player. You know what I mean? It's the most important job you'll ever get.

Speaker 1 So I would think, I'm not, I would think I know like my because or my why is my children, man. It's their turn and I get to have front row seats.
So yeah.

Speaker 1 I love that, man. And a lot of people don't understand the sacrifices that professional athletes make when it does come to parenthood, right?

Speaker 1 Like when I say sacrifices, it's you're burning the candle on both ends because you've got to be the teammate first and foremost. Then you got to do your assignment on Sunday, right?

Speaker 1 But then, you know, as tough as you are, you still got to be dad at one o'clock in the morning every once in a while or when baby is sick, right? Like people don't understand that.

Speaker 1 Talk to them a little bit about that, man.

Speaker 1 Just the i don't want to say the pressures because there's no pressure in parenthood but just you got a big big-time job right and then you come home and it's an even bigger job exactly and like you know

Speaker 1 people forget to understand that you know that we're human and we wear multiple hats you know what i'm saying we not just you know professional athletes or football and basketball players or what have you you know i'm saying like we fathers first you know what i mean and they kind of get the back end they get was left especially when you're playing you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 Because your job and everything comes first, your career.

Speaker 1 And then like, they're just kind of like, all right, dad, now you got to, if you could make it to my recital or my game or something, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 All that stuff is hard when you playing, but when you're not playing, it's like, it's the best feeling in the world.

Speaker 1 Like, you get to go to everything, you get to attend everything, and you kind of get to be present. Whereas, you know, everybody.

Speaker 1 When you're playing, everybody, yeah, you're at your kids' game, but they're more happy that you're there. You know what I'm saying? So it's like now they get to be the focal point.

Speaker 1 It's like, nah, this their game. If you want their autograph, get theirs.
You know what I'm saying? It's like, I'm just dad now. You know what I mean? So

Speaker 1 I love that it's their turn now. It's like they're on stage, and they kind of get to be the reason.
You know what I mean? Like, everybody's there. Everybody there to see dad.

Speaker 1 Everybody there to see you. You know what I'm saying? Yes, sir.

Speaker 1 Yes, sir. So, growing up, man, you grew up in Minnesota, right?

Speaker 1 Right? So growing up in Minnesota, when did you know that you were going to beat T-Sizzle?

Speaker 1 When did you feel that?

Speaker 1 I didn't. Like, we talk about it every day.
And it's like, you know, in Minnesota, what people don't know is very competitive. You know what I mean? Like, out of 10 kids, 12 of them got D1 abilities.

Speaker 1 You know what I'm saying? Like, I remember like my Pop Warner team, like my eighth grade team, we went that whole year. We gave up, I want to say, one touchdown out out of like 12 games.

Speaker 1 Like we were that dominant on both sides of the ball. Like we kicked the ball off at the beginning of the game.

Speaker 1 We kicked the ball off at halftime because our offense was just going to light things up. And people don't know this, but my quarterback was Joe Mauer.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 Joe Mauer, he baseball. Yeah.
You know, he went to Creed and Darham Hall, was an all-American, you know, had a scholarship to Florida State, but went and played.

Speaker 1 went and played uh uh baseball but he was a quarterback on an inner city team. He's the only white kid.
He was the only white kid. And all of us would tell you, he was the best player.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? Like, Joe Bauer had it. Like, we were 10 and he was eight.
He was still better than all the rest of us and all of us inner city kids. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 Joe Bauer just had it from jump. So he was on our eighth grade team.
That was like going up in Minnesota. It was highly competitive.

Speaker 1 So like when I was able to kind of like branch out and I moved to Arizona, like I already had kind of like that edge, that competitive edge.

Speaker 1 And that, that really helped me I want to say that propelled me

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what's up so segwaying to Arizona, right? You go to Arizona State This is pre-NIL, so I ain't gonna get you in trouble, but but why Arizona State, man?

Speaker 1 Um, to be totally honest with you, uh, it was Florida State. I was going to Florida State because they were winning national champions then.
They were on TV every week, and that was huge.

Speaker 1 Um, so, you know, as a family, we thought like Florida State was the best place for me. But my dad was like, all right, you know, I'll be able to catch a game when I can.
You know,

Speaker 1 we're poor in the inner city. And I was like, well, that's a deal breaker for me.
Like, I got to have my dad in my games. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 And like, especially like my whole senior year, he hadn't missed one. And that's when we had our magical year.
I won player of the year. It was a Gatorade player of the year.

Speaker 1 And, you know, the thought of me going to college and my family not being the stands to see it. Like, they could only see me when I was on TV or playing on the West Coast.

Speaker 1 I was like, nah, that's not an option. We might as well go right on 15 minutes down the street and y'all can make every game.
So that's why Arizona State, but also

Speaker 1 like Arizona, the U of A, they were the first ever school to like recruit me, send me a letter. And, you know, I also,

Speaker 1 you know, because football don't have the Olympics, I love their colors. Like they were the red, right, and blue.
So it was kind of like, oh, you could wear the red, right, and blue and play football.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? So uh, it was Florida State, and then it was, it was, U of A was like a strong second.

Speaker 1 Like, if I'm not gonna go to Florida State, I'll go to U of A because they were the first one, you know, I'm a loyal dude, and you know, and then like the media kind of heard, like, they kind of

Speaker 1 got out that I might head to somewhere other than ASU. And then they just went full-fledged.
Like, the media started recruiting me. So, I was like,

Speaker 1 yeah, we might as well just go to SU.

Speaker 1 I like it, man. So, you know, I remember staying up late because I'm from the East Coast.
I'm from South Carolina, right? And I went to college in North Carolina.

Speaker 1 Tar Hill always represented my Tar Hill.

Speaker 1 But I remember staying up, man, because, you know, for us, you guys are playing at 7.30, 8 o'clock your time. It's like 10.30, 11.

Speaker 1 And when you're on TV, you know, it gets delayed a little bit. But I always wanted to see you, man, because the tenacity you had, you were all over the field, man.
Like,

Speaker 1 I showed my kids a highlight tape of your, it wasn't even a published highlight tape. This was back when you could record TV, right? Like DVR or whatever it was.

Speaker 1 Like, watching you chase down running backs from the. total opposite side of the field.
Like, it was the norm for you because people wasn't coming to you, right? You were always having to chase.

Speaker 1 Like, where did that grit, where did that fire come from, bro? Well, i know which play you're talking about it's uh ucla the sean foster place and yep like when i was in high school you know

Speaker 1 my senior year was the sean foster's freshman year and he toured up he like tour

Speaker 1 he tour up college football you know what i'm saying and

Speaker 1 like

Speaker 1 i was like all right i was like excited to play him but you know you're nervous you're going up against like you know that was like that's how i felt the first time i played against ricky williams in the league like it's ricky williams but I'm

Speaker 1 gonna get to him. You know what I'm saying? They say, ball into your idols, become your rival.
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Speaker 1 I'm gonna get him. And I was like trying to get my play, and it was the only time I could really tackle him.
He ran the other way, and he like broke. And I tried to catch him in the rows.
It was dope.

Speaker 1 It was a dope setting, but he still scored. But it was just kind of like, oh, look at this kid.
You know what I mean? It was kind of like people started to become aware of me.

Speaker 1 But i would definitely say like my coaches man like they brought they brung the dog out you know what i mean ted martakino like once i got him as a coach like my world changed me i changed as a player you know what i'm saying yeah what was that change like like

Speaker 1 give me a give me the before and after a coach that kind of be like look you know what i'm saying you don't just got to make the plays that come to you you can make every play you know what i'm saying like we need you to like lead this team.

Speaker 1 And, you know, he had that confidence in me. You know what I'm saying? Like, that's what coaches do.
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Speaker 1 And like, even when I didn't do nothing wrong, like, he would like yell at me kind of like to get me, like, to let all the other guys know, like, all right, I'll get on his ass too.

Speaker 1 You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 I just kind of like took it, shut my mouth, and went to work. And we end up having magical seasons, man.

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Speaker 1 Absolutely.

Speaker 1 And so then you parlay that you earn a draft pick, right? Like I tell people all the time, like players earn getting drafted, right?

Speaker 1 Like there's, there's so many people that are draft eligible, people don't realize, right? So even fourth, fifth round draft picks, they earn to be drafted. You earn to be drafted by the Ravens.

Speaker 1 I don't know if a lot of people realize, man, like you didn't start every game your rookie year, but doggone it, you had 12 plus of those things, though, brother.

Speaker 1 I didn't start my rookie year because that kind of showed you the personnel we had at the Raiders when I got there. Like,

Speaker 1 you know, I said before, I was like, this was the first time I wasn't top dog. And not only was I top dog, I wasn't not top dog, we had a whole bunch of other dogs there that could do what I do.

Speaker 1 You know what I'm saying? So it was just kind of like a pack of lions. And like, you the young cub.
Like,

Speaker 1 it was cute what you did down there in college, but this big boy lead, this ain't that little rascal stuff you used to. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 They let me know early, like, that was college, little bro. Like,

Speaker 1 this is a whole nother game up here, but I had great vets, man. I had great vets.

Speaker 1 You know, Adalis Thomas, I mentioned him all the time. Adalis Thomas, Bart Scott, Peter Bulware, Anthony Weaver.
And of course, I had the two top dogs, Ray Lewis and Ed Reed.

Speaker 1 So, you know, you got a personnel like that. Like, it's only natural you could be successful.
You know, I ain't going to never forget Kelly Gregg either.

Speaker 1 He was like the smallest guy on our team, but he was also like the strongest and the toughest. So we just had dogs everywhere, man.
Yeah, man. And

Speaker 1 you were the dog. And again, you've always been my favorite NFL player, right? And so

Speaker 1 seeing the maturity of you from your rookie year, again, 12 and a half sacks, to then you're starting your next year. And now you're getting schemed.

Speaker 1 And I don't think people realize that either, right? Like, it's like, okay, Suggs is over here. Now, we're gonna double team him, chip him, but you're still productive, right?

Speaker 1 Talk to people about that because, again, I don't think people understand the nuance. Like, they see the high numbers, but they don't realize those high numbers mean you're getting attention, too.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like, like, what people don't understand is that, like, you know, offensive coordinators are smart, they know what you could do, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 Like, they know what each player can do, and they're going to find a way to scheme up the defense. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 It wasn't just me, like I said, they were like, all right, we can slide this way, you know, send

Speaker 1 the, we'll double him with the tackle and tight end, and we'll send the guard and the full back up to Ray, and we'll slide this, like, they got schemes, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 So it's just like, you just got to be productive, and you know, your, your, you know, coordinators kind of got to counter that, kind of got to get you lose, get you free, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 But also your personnel, your teammates got to get you free too. too.
Like, they can't, we got it, we had it, so you can't, you, you can't have to pick your poison.

Speaker 1 You double one of us, the rest of us is gonna eat. So, that's how it ended up happening.
Like, everybody knows we've had like consecutive years where we're the best defense in football.

Speaker 1 You know, we just didn't have a championship offense, is why we end up either getting bounced out of the playoffs or didn't make it, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 But, you know, we eventually got that thing done. So,

Speaker 1 yeah, so let's talk about that, man. Like, not only two-time Super Bowl, right?

Speaker 1 But then you're also player of the year.

Speaker 1 You're the leader of men at that point, right? So

Speaker 1 talk to me about your leadership maturity. Like, when did you realize, all right, I got to be a little bit different in the locker room.

Speaker 1 I got to be a little more vocal on the field because you had Ray, you had Ed on the back end, and then like you're that presence up front, man. So like, how did how did Sizzle manage that?

Speaker 1 All right, I'm a leader now.

Speaker 1 I want to say it was after the 2006 season.

Speaker 1 We lost in the playoffs at home to, you know, Peyton Manning them.

Speaker 1 And that's not a good feeling because we felt like we were top dog that year. You know what I'm saying? We felt like that was our year in 06.

Speaker 1 It was the most games we had ever won as a franchise up until Lamar got there. But we had went 13 and three.
Like, I had never won that many games before in my life.

Speaker 1 And it was just like, and I think we had like nine,

Speaker 1 nine pro bowlers. I think six of us were on defense or something like that.
Our whole linebacking core went to the Pro Bowl.

Speaker 1 Myself, Ray, Bart, and Adalis Thomas all were elected to the Pro Bowl that year. So we had Trevor Price.
He like led all defensive tackles in sacks. He had 13.
Like, it was just a great year.

Speaker 1 It was a really good year.

Speaker 1 And.

Speaker 1 Like, we got bounced out and it was just kind of like,

Speaker 1 all right, we kind of all expected

Speaker 1 ray and and ed to kind of just lead us you know what i'm saying i was like all right i got it i gotta join that group we all need help so we all can get it done together so i i would say probably after 2006 and i became more of a leader in 2008 when harves got there it was then we had that real big three-headed monster so you know me ray and ed so yeah yeah yeah nah that's awesome dude that's awesome so i'm gonna say this so you don't have to

Speaker 1 i wholeheartedly believe if the Ravens during your heyday had somewhat of an explosive offense, you would be the career leader in sacks. Because,

Speaker 1 like, literally

Speaker 1 a lot of your sacks, man, like, teams didn't have to, they were never pressured to throw the ball. One, they couldn't throw the ball on you guys, but like, there were never shootout games.

Speaker 1 And what people don't realize, stats on sacks, like, it's a lot of shootouts, right? Like, I wholeheartedly believe you'd had over 200 sacks if y'all had a potential.

Speaker 1 We could have landed somewhere around there. Like, you know, I don't want to gas myself up and be like, oh, I'd have let, you know, I'd have been

Speaker 1 exactly.

Speaker 1 But, you know, a lot of those early years, like, we did not have an offense. Like, people know that.
Like, there's not no secret. We did not have an offense.

Speaker 1 And like, when you're in shootout games and especially, not shootout games, excuse me, you in like dog games and you're playing Pittsburgh, they in you. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 They got three tight ends and they run in powers and plunges. Now, it ain't like the game is now.
You know,

Speaker 1 high flying and passing and all of that. No, it's not like that.
You had Eddie George to prep for the ball. Yeah, like

Speaker 1 the Titans

Speaker 1 throwing the ball.

Speaker 1 Taylor, Corey Dillon. You know what I'm saying? Jerome Bettis.
Like, we had big backs then. You know what I'm saying? Brandon Jacobs.
You know what I'm saying? Stephen Jackson.

Speaker 1 Like, this is when backs were backs. Every week, you're facing either a big back or a good, elusive one.
You know what I mean? You know, shifty loose, you know,

Speaker 1 a shifty one. And like now it's kind of like the running back is kind of like an afterthought.
You know what I mean? They don't really value running backs no more.

Speaker 1 But I think Saquon Barkley just changed that.

Speaker 1 Hoping so. Hoping so, man.
Is there any sack aside from my guy, Tom Brady, any sack you remember? Like any sack that stands out or a few sacks that stand out.

Speaker 1 One sack stand out. It was opening day, of course,

Speaker 1 against the Steelers. They had just knocked us out.

Speaker 1 They had just knocked us out of the playoffs the year before, and we were beating them on their home field.

Speaker 1 We was up like 21-7 or something in the third, and then they ended up coming back and beating us.

Speaker 1 But I was just,

Speaker 1 I was just like, we were turned up. We just got knocked out by him.
We, you know, felt disappointed. And that

Speaker 1 opening day, 2011, like, I just, I was on one that day. So it was one, I just come through, like, hello, D.

Speaker 1 I, like, rap under Loli. He told me to do it.
Like, I wasn't supposed to. He was like, sizzle, come under me.
Like, we just had that kind of chemistry, that connection. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And I was like, all right. And I just did it and it just happened.
Like,

Speaker 1 big hit, ball out, we recover, we go down, score, and like, the next play or two plays or something like that.

Speaker 1 And it kind of like set the tone for our season, that opener and that sat, you know what I mean? So it was a, that one is my most memorable.

Speaker 1 I love it, man. So, one of the things I love paralleling is leadership and sports.
And again,

Speaker 1 I'll say it all day, every day. My favorite player in the world is T-Sizzle.
But I also appreciated, like I said earlier, your leadership.

Speaker 1 And so talk to the audience about leadership and teamwork, right? Because one of the things that I always say, a great leader knows their team better than their team knows themselves.

Speaker 1 Meaning, you knew Halodi probably better than Halodi knew himself, right? Like you knew, you know, his instincts. You probably knew the buttons to push.

Speaker 1 How important was that for you being a leader, but knowing your teammate and their strengths?

Speaker 1 It was extremely important, especially because I kind of like fell into the role. You know what I'm saying? I didn't like.

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Speaker 1 You know, appoint myself as a leader and nothing like that. I think it was kind of like the respect from the, you know, my other teammate that I had in the locker room that

Speaker 1 we can

Speaker 1 kind of go to Siz to kind of lead us, you know what I'm saying? But also, like, I can never not discredit like our kind of legacy.

Speaker 1 Like, I was a good leader because I had a good leader, you know, in Ray and Ed, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 Like, when, you know, you have guys that's always professional that's showing you how to do it right. You know what I mean? And, like, not only that, like, they love

Speaker 1 the Ravens organization, they love our team, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 Like, if Ray, you know, didn't get older, you know what I'm saying? He'd probably still be playing, you know what I mean, in the Ravens uniform, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 But like, I kind of had it, I was under his tutelage, you know what I'm saying? Like, I was under him. I sat next to him for like 10 years in the back of the room, just picking his brain.

Speaker 1 Like, I didn't get, like, you're not going to get a better football mind, you know what I'm saying? So,

Speaker 1 I kind of say all of that just rubbed right off to his little brother you know I mean like after being you know being under you know being him being my mentor for all those years and then me just kind of having a relationship with other guys in the locker room and us having fun and like that that is how you know I fell into the role and like I was just one of those guys that also loved the Ravens organization you know what I'm saying so it was like a lot was riding on like these games games.

Speaker 1 Like, dog, we love these games and we only got limited time together. So let's get this shit done.
You know what I'm saying? Excuse me. But

Speaker 1 done. You know what I mean? And that was just kind of the mindset.
You know what I mean? Ravens Nation.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
I think another thing that I think you embody, and you talked about it with your kids, again, doing the parallel to leadership, is great leaders are always present, right?

Speaker 1 Like you can't lead by talking. You can't lead by checking in.

Speaker 1 And I don't care if you're talking leadership in football, leadership in your household. I think presence is key.

Speaker 1 And I would say that for you, like seeing the things you've been able to accomplish on and off the field, you're always present, right? Like you're always in the moment. Yeah, you know, you got to be.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? You got to be, like you said, let them kids know there's nothing more important than what you're doing now. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 So, and also, like, you know, a leader would never ask someone to do that. He wouldn't do himself.
you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 So you always kind of got to lead by your actions first, you know what I mean? It's always being on time.

Speaker 1 Like, not, like, I tell my son, like, if you're supposed to be somewhere at eight, then you need to be there by like 7.50, 7.55. You don't want to be walking in at 8.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 Like, you want to. You want to have some respect for your time.
You don't want to always be rushing. You know what I'm saying? And always lead by example.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 So, I mean, lead with your actions. Always be a professional.
Always be a man of your word. You know what I mean? And that's what I was pretty much trying to be.

Speaker 1 I love that, man. I love that.
If you can give people like one tip, so let's say, you know, someone's either struggling with leadership or someone's trying to find that purpose within.

Speaker 1 Like, what's one tip you'd give them? Always self-check. Always start with yourself.
You know what I'm saying? Because. it always something you could do.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 You can't complain about something. You can't ask for sympathy for a burden that you chose to bear.
You know what I'm saying? So it's always, you know, self-check.

Speaker 1 Always start with you first before you go anywhere else. It's like, all right, what can I do? Like, what

Speaker 1 can I do to change this? What did I do to cause this? Like, it's always self-check.

Speaker 1 Self-check yourself first and then like you can come up, you know, with the right move. Like, I tell, you know, my kids, my cousins, everybody all the time.
It's like, you know, you got to play chess.

Speaker 1 You got to think moves ahead. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 There's always a move to be made. You know what I'm saying? Just take your time and make it.
You know what I mean? Think about it and make them, you know, make chess moves.

Speaker 1 No, I love that, brother. I love that.
So, how do you want the legacy of you to be defined? Right? Like,

Speaker 1 I got my version, but I want to hear what you got. Like, my version is: I want them that, like, you know,

Speaker 1 everything

Speaker 1 that I achieved achieved for the right reason. It wasn't for, you know, selfish glorification.
It was for the betterment of the team.

Speaker 1 I wanted us, like, I wanted us all kind of like, get the glory, you know what I'm saying? And

Speaker 1 I just wanted them to know that

Speaker 1 I gave it all through and through. You know what I'm saying? Like, I played every snap like it was the Super Bowl game winning play.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 Like, I wanted it and I always wanted it, not for myself, but for my teammates, my team, and my city.

Speaker 1 That's it, man. Like, I would have said something very similar.
I would have just said, if he was with you, you got everything.

Speaker 1 I like that.

Speaker 1 Like, if Suns lined up beside you, you were getting it all. If he was in the huddle, no questions asked, you're getting everything.
I'm going to use that. I'm going to give you your credit.

Speaker 1 I'm going to cite my source, but

Speaker 1 you can have it, brother.

Speaker 1 He's with you. You got everything you need.
I like that. Yes, sir.
Yes, sir. All right.
I'm going to do a rapid top five. Okay.
Ready? Yep. All right.
Who's a better dancer? You or Ray Lewis? Me.

Speaker 1 He got his squirrel. He got the Ray Lewis dance, but everything else is sizzle.

Speaker 1 Okay. Yeah.
All right. Tougher opponent, Brady or Manning? Brady.

Speaker 1 All day, right? Brady don't make no mistakes. Yeah, and he'll make you pay for yours.

Speaker 1 There it is.

Speaker 1 If you could sack one quarterback one more time,

Speaker 1 your last, your final final sack. Who would it be?

Speaker 1 Ben Roffelsberger.

Speaker 1 Really? It's only right. Yeah.
Ben Roffelsberger. Okay.

Speaker 1 Makes sense. Makes sense.
Who's the best trash talker you ever face? That I ever faced? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Man.

Speaker 1 We didn't have some good ones now.

Speaker 1 I would say Steve Smith. But, you know, he ended up becoming a Raven.
You know what I'm saying? But Steve Smith is pretty good. Steve Smith and

Speaker 1 Pac-Man Jones and Pac-Man.

Speaker 1 Okay. Those are two great ones.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Small guys, too. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's when you know you're in for a fight, when the small guys talk. Yeah, man.
Be ready.

Speaker 1 They are dogs.

Speaker 1 Yes, sir. All right, last one.

Speaker 1 When the movie, the biopic of T Sizzle comes out, who's playing sizzle? Michael B. Jordan.
Easy. No hesitation.
Easy.

Speaker 1 Like, I want them to erase every picture I got and put him. You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, this is what Sizzle looks like.
You know what I mean? All the women love Michael B. Jordan.
Michael B.

Speaker 1 Jordan easy. So if it wasn't him,

Speaker 1 you know, if it didn't come out like in the next couple of years, so The Rock would be out. The Rock is out.
So who is that?

Speaker 1 Who's the new guy?

Speaker 1 They want him to be.

Speaker 1 He played MC Wren and

Speaker 1 Straight Up. I know.

Speaker 1 I think. Eldis Modge or Travante rose one of them one of them yeah

Speaker 1 okay cool well what's sizzle up to now man like what do you want the people to know what you're up to now just being dad man i'm just being dad that that's pretty much it i go to what they call it what we had was aau they call it like eybl now they got different you know i mean it's basically i'm at one of them tournaments every week you know my daughter just had like a dream tryout in uh atlanta so i think we find out today if she made it or not.

Speaker 1 But if she don't, I love that she had the experience. You know what I'm saying? My daughter's 6'2 going into her senior year.
So trying to get this scholarship.

Speaker 1 And yeah, man, I'm just enjoying being dad. Like, like I said earlier, it's the best job in the world.
And I love it because I'm the parent that kind of wants to embarrass the kids.

Speaker 1 Like when you pick them up from school and playing old hip-hop, I'm out there dancing or something. So I definitely love my new job, my new full-time job.
So, yeah. I love it, brother.
I love it, man.

Speaker 1 Well, I am proud of you for who you are. I'm proud of you for the things that you do and everything you've accomplished.

Speaker 1 And, like I said, bro, just keep shining that light because people like me need it every day from you. Thank you, brother.
I appreciate that, man. I appreciate the love.

Speaker 1 Absolutely. Where can people find and follow you? Hey, man, you know, on Instagram, that's pretty much the only one.
Oh, I got Instagram and, you know, X, I guess they call it. It's just

Speaker 1 Untouchable J55.

Speaker 1 There it is.

Speaker 1 Untouchable J at Untouchable J on both Twitter and Instagram. You got it.
I'll make sure I put that in the show notes for everybody. Sizzleman, I appreciate you more than you know.

Speaker 1 Thank you for taking time out of your busy schedule to hang with us. Thanks for having me, man.

Speaker 1 You got it. For all the viewers and listeners, remember, your because is your superpower.
Go unleash it.

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