Aries Spears Talks Cancel Culture, Comedy Evolution, and Staying True to Himself

Away from this business,

this shit, it beats you up, man.

It beats your spirit up, your soul up to the point where you at times think about quitting.

Maybe you feel suicidal.

You know,

this kills you, man.

I wouldn't wish this on my worst enemy.

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Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to another exciting episode of Mick Unplug.

And today, we got one of my top five, dead or alive.

From stepping on the stage at just 14 to redefining sketch comedy on Matt TV, this man didn't just chase the spotlight he commanded it he's a comedic powerhouse who's mastered impressions tackled hollywood and has kept audiences laughing for decades please give my guy a huge round of applause and welcome the bold the unfiltered the relentless mr aries spears aries how you doing today brother what's up brother

man

I told you offline I'm honored to have you on.

You are literally one of my favorite stand-ups in the world.

Just honor you took time out of your busy schedule to be be here, bro.

Oh, no, man.

Thank you for being somewhat forgiving because

I know we were supposed to start this at two o'clock, but I was actually coming from doing another podcast by comedian Harlan Williams.

So that LA traffic is a monster.

So I just got a little bit of that traffic, but I'm, you know, I'm here now.

So thank you.

I appreciate it, man.

You know, on Mick Unplugged, I always like to ask my greats, my favorites, my legends, what their because is, that thing that's deeper than your why, that thing that really is your purpose, that fuel.

And you've been doing this, man, since 14.

Today, in 2025,

what's Aerie Spears because what's that thing that's driving you, bro?

Uh, because I still feel like I haven't arrived, you know, um,

in terms of where I have always

seen myself, and in terms of what I've always wanted, uh, I don't, I'm not there yet, so uh, I still desperately and very badly want to reach that level.

Well,

I don't know about what you think, but bro, I think you're there, man.

Like I said, you are literally, I know a lot of people have seen Aries.

I've seen Aries over 20 times.

It's always a different set.

And I don't think people understand that, man.

In stand-up, it's real easy to have like your routine and just some cats, as you know, we're not going to name names.

They run that for 10 years.

And like, you go see them once.

you all have to see them again.

With Aries, you get a new experience, bro, every freaking time.

How do you do that, dude?

Well, I think a huge testament to that is, you know, my crowd work.

You know,

you know, I almost liken it to being a quarterback on a football team.

You know, yeah, you got your playbook.

I love your material.

But every now and then, you got to be able to call a, you know, a quarterback, you know what I mean, recognize the blitz and call it audible you know what i'm saying so and that to me is like being able to do crowd work so i like the spontaneity of it

um

it always makes the crowd feel like they're involved and uh

it's just for me it's a much it's a much more fun time yeah yeah i tell all my buddies man like every time i go see aries i know you're a sports guy too it's like it's game seven for you every set right and it's like game seven two seconds left.

Aries wants the ball every damn time, right?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You know, anybody that knows me and listen to my podcast and follow me on social media know that I'm a Michael Jordan fanatic.

So, you know,

like Jordan,

yeah, give me the ball.

I want the game-winning shot.

You know, I want to be able to, you know, pump my fist in the air and victory.

And I want to, you know, I want to be the man.

Yep.

And you do it every time, man.

And you talk about crowd work.

I always try to sit up front.

I know you're going to get me.

I know you're going to get my wife.

You know, the last time we were there, you told my wife, her name is Marcy for all the viewers and listeners.

You said, Marcy,

you're as white as uncut cocaine.

And I literally spit out everything I had in my system at that moment, bro.

Like your crowd work is unreal, dude.

Thank you, brother.

Thank you.

And, you know, that was something very early in my beginnings that I was intimidated by.

Because, you know,

you're basically on a wire with no safety net.

And not everybody can do that well, you know.

But I said to myself, if you're going to be a complete comedian, you need to have all the facets of your game

on point.

You know, it's like, again, the Jordan reference, you know, there was no weaknesses in Mike.

Mike can do it all.

So I was like, you know, I know I can do the impressions.

I'm pretty quick.

I'm pretty savvy.

I know,

you know, I could talk about relationships and pop culture and whatever,

even get a little political, even though I don't think that's my thing.

But I wanted to be able to go, yo, you got, I just don't understand how you can be a comedian and not implement that into your skill set because it's just such a

strong tool to have

to

show people how quick you are.

So

I take pride in that.

And I studied, you know, D.L.

Hughley and Joe Tory, who were vicious, vicious

when it came time to, you know, chew somebody's ass up.

So, you know, I just kind of always wanted that in my repertoire, you know.

And

I like it a lot of what we do to sports, you know, because I think there are certain similarities.

And I always say, I look at it like football.

It's like

you can be a hall of fame championship quarterback a la brett parr a la

peyton manning and stay in the pocket which is your material or you can michael vicket and be able to scramble for the first down which is going off the dome and don't get me wrong you don't have to be able to go off the dome to be a great

you know Hall of Fame championship quarterback.

And those guys

are never Michael Vicked.

They stayed in the pocket and they're two of the best.

Tom Brady, probably the GOAT.

But I just felt like, you know,

if you're going to be deadly, why not be twice as deadly instead of being, you know, singularly deadly?

You know what I mean?

So that I just wanted to be able to do both.

No, I love that, dude.

And I've always wanted to ask you this question because, you know, Aries also is never going to hold back.

Right.

And every time I see you, and it never fails, there's always someone who pays their money to go to a comedy show, but sits up like they don't want to be there.

Right.

And like, I do, I do public speaking and I see it a lot too.

Like, you spent your money.

Why are you making the comedian work hard?

But Aries will call you out, man.

Like, why do people like, do you understand why people do that, bro?

Listen, I, I just, when you say, you know, one person,

I'm retired from performing in the city of Cleveland because that whole city does that.

And

I did a radio show to promote

my performance in Columbus, Ohio, which out of all the Ohios, Toledo, Columbus, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Dayton, Columbus is my favorite.

But I didn't know that the radio station I was doing,

the airwaves reached out to Cleveland.

So I took the dump on that city so bad, I was getting death threats from Clevelanders.

People hitting me up in my social media.

Man, you come back to Cleveland, we're going to pull up.

And I said, pull up because I'm done.

I'm done with the city of Cleveland.

There's something so miserable about that city.

That Cleveland is America's rectum.

It's just a horrible experience.

And listen, I'm not even saying you got to give me anything because I don't mind earning what I need to get.

Right.

But to just sit there with

just two things.

One, a state of misery and heaviness.

And two, you know, listen, man,

I think, and I don't think this is just relegated to Cleveland.

I think there's a mentality and an attitude that exists within the culture and the community.

And people that grow up in the hood, ghetto, street,

not saying all of them.

but a lot of them come with a mentality where quite frankly, you're just not open enough, savvy enough, and intelligent enough to get what I'm serving.

You know, you're playing checkers, I'm playing chess.

And some people mentally, they just don't have, they're not equipped to follow what you're doing.

It's above them.

And again, I'm not trying to make that sound like I'm better than anybody, but

I'm paying some people.

Yep.

You know what I'm saying?

So between the level of intelligence or lack thereof

and the misery and the attitude, man, i'm over it i've been doing this 36 years i've been down those waters i've swam in them waters that's that's how i you know most of the the clubs that i did starting out in jersey and new york you know whether it's newark long island you know queens was them rough clubs so i've earned them stripes yeah i'm gonna have to do that if i don't have to yep

bro it baffles me to this day like i i see it all the time people just sit there it's like typically it's usually a Thursday night sometimes, but mainly Friday night, Saturday night.

Like, it's the weekend, right?

And you're getting to frequency Aerie Spears.

Like, why

would you just go in there all, all right, I'm here?

Like, it baffles me to this day, bro.

No, it's

crazy.

And, you know, if any people from Cleveland see this or hear this.

you know, I'm not saying you're not, y'all are not a good people because I've met some great people in Cleveland,

but comedically,

it just is a heaviness, man, where it's like, you know, the difference between some people coming and going, yeah, make me laugh because I want to laugh versus, yeah,

show me what you got.

It's like, come on, man.

Come on, man.

Yep.

So that's a challenge to my guy, Andrew Ryan, who is actually in Cleveland.

You got to do better, bro.

And what's crazy, the part that kills me

is the responses are so cliche.

They're so unoriginal.

What I get is, well, you just ain't funny.

Tell better jokes.

You just ain't funny.

Listen, I've been coming to Cleveland and taking money out of there in terms of working there for almost 20 years.

Why do you think that is?

Because I'm not funny.

I do five sold-out shows, add three more, and they sell out.

Why do you think that is?

Because I'm not funny.

I go there and I make 50K for the weekend.

Why do you think that is?

Because I'm not funny.

That is the most unoriginal shit I've heard.

It's almost like when you get, when people insult you, they either turn into women or children.

You know, they either say, you know, like a child would say to another child, well, no, you're a poopy head.

Or like a woman who goes, after 10 years of being in a relationship, now I'm telling you I don't want to be with you no more.

Oh, that's why you got a little dick and you can't fuck.

You was with me for 10 years.

Make that make sense.

Math ain't math in me.

And listen, if I perform all over the country, let's say I'm just throwing a number out there.

I do 20 cities and in 19 of them, same material, same amount of energy and passion, and I'm killing 19 out of the 20.

And Cleveland is city number 20.

You mean to tell me I'm going to let you guys be the testament to my greatness when you've been outruled by 19 other cities?

Nah, it ain't me.

It's you.

Get your shit together.

Yo, I love it.

I love it.

So you've had it, you've said it.

You started early on, man, 36 years in the game strong, which is a testament to you.

Like when I tell people about receipts, being a stand-up comedian, 36 years are all the receipts that you ever need right there, man.

Like, what made Aerie Spears say, not just I'm going to get in the comedy game, but I'm going to dominate?

Because at 14, most people haven't figured that part out yet.

Well, you know,

I grew up in 80s, baby.

You know, I'm built 80s tough, you know, and I came up at that time where, you know,

prior to Eddie Murphy, you know, I was born in 75.

So like, you know, I always said Hollywood only really allowed one funny black man per decade.

You had Dick Gregory in the 60s.

Richard Pryor dominated the 70s, Eddie Murphy, the 80s.

And then by the 90s, you had the explosion of Death Jam, which introduced mainstream america to to to more than just one funny black person right but for the 80s you know uh eddie murphy was my guy so uh

you know it was appointment television every saturday at 11 30 for me and my father to watch eddie murphy and then when i saw 48 hours and trading places i was hooked i said that's what i want to do And then, you know, I eventually found out, you know, he and I share the same birthday, April 3rd.

We both zodiac signs, Aries.

So I just took all that as motivation to

really want to do this, you know what I mean?

And I knew

I wasn't equipped to do anything else.

You know, I knew school at an early age, other than basic arithmetic and reading and writing, most of that is bullshit that's useless in life, you know.

And I knew that early.

So I was like, you know what?

I'm passionate about comedy.

I enjoy making

my peers and my family laugh.

And, you know, I just, you know, when I went on stage for the first time at 14, 15, I just, you know, granted, I wasn't nearly as seasoned as I am now.

Yeah.

Can't be.

But to be that young and have that kind of an impact, I just kind of felt like, you know what, something special is happening here.

So I just, that was the dream and I pursued it.

And I got to, you know, I got to take my hat off to my mother.

Because if it wasn't for her, you know, she really instilled the confidence in me to do it.

Because my mother's a jazz and blues singer.

And, you know, she used to sing open with the

jazz great Lionel Hampton.

And she once performed at the White House for Reagan.

So she was always like my Catherine Jackson to my micro.

And she just really pushed me and believed in me and instilled that confidence in me.

And I wouldn't be here if it wasn't for her.

I love that, dude.

At 14, did you have mentors?

No.

No.

No, because I, you know, coming up, I couldn't hang out with the other comedians because, you know, I'm a teenager.

You know, they're grown.

They're, you know,

they and establishments that serve alcohol.

So I was never allowed to be a part of that.

My mother would bring me in.

I, you know, whatever green room they had for me to wait in, I would wait in, do my set.

And then after that, head back to the crib, no hanging out, no nothing.

Cause, you know, basically, I was the Spider-Man of the comedians.

You know what I mean?

I had spoo the next day.

You know what I'm saying?

So while Thor and Captain American and,

you know, Hulk and Iron Man is out partying, I had Algebra tomorrow.

So, so, you know, I was Peter Parker.

Yeah.

Yeah, that's dope, man.

That's dope.

So, you know, one of the things I've all, another question I always wanted to ask you was this,

the dark side of comedy, right?

Like, your job is to make people laugh.

And I say job, I don't mean it as a job, but you're great at making people laugh.

But I know, like, Deion Cole, a good friend of mine, all the time, man, like

you don't walk on stage and everything is going perfect in your world, but you still got to make people laugh because that's how you get paid.

I thought that was brilliant when he did that.

When he did that, he pointed that out.

I almost wanted to wake my girl up and be like bitch listen to this right here

you need to appreciate you like if you it's it's such a

and it's weird because it's like

the people that you you wish would show you love and adulation and praise are the people that don't mean your your family And the people that love you and praise you, sometimes more than family, often more than family, are strangers.

So it's crazy that the appreciation that you seek from your loved ones, your kinfolk,

they almost take you for granted and don't see you as that because they know you as before that.

But the people that really appreciate you are the people that aren't associated to you by blood.

And

when he said that, it was like, man, you need that because

away from this business,

this shit, it beats you up, man.

It beats your spirit up, your soul up to the point where you at times think about quitting.

Maybe you feel suicidal.

You know,

this kills you, man.

I wouldn't wish this on my worst enemy.

And for those that don't know, right, like, like talk through that a little bit.

Like, what does...

an Aerie Spears, I'm not saying you personally, right?

But like, what does an Aerie Spears go through that people don't realize?

Like, I get the grind, right?

Like, you're every weekend, you're out, you come home for a couple of days, and it's like tomorrow you're right back out again, right?

Like, being able to develop relationships, friendships, like it's people, the things that we do as normal people, right?

Take it totally for granted, man.

Yeah, I mean, you know,

being the sole breadwinner,

being the main source of everybody financially, being responsible for people, buying my ass adults,

not being able to say no when you know you should,

feeling like you're being taken advantage of, you underappreciated,

dealing with the politics of show business, the racism of show business.

You know,

they like to coin this term in Hollywood amongst black entertainers.

Like there's Hollywood and then there's Black Hollywood.

But the truth is, sometimes Black Hollywood do you dirtier than white Hollywood.

Black Hollywood don't support you sometimes the way it should like white Hollywood.

And it's far enough getting white Hollywood to treat you right.

Find out that your own do you worse aren't it supportive?

That's what I'm telling you, man.

This game is, it's an evil game, man.

But you stay in it because, you know, one thing.

can change your life around forever.

You know, whether it's a viral video, a commercial, a TV series, a movie, you are always one thing away from making $2 million an episode.

So, you know,

when you know those are the kind of numbers you're playing with,

yeah, you take the abuse.

Chris Rock said it best.

He was like,

Hollywood is like an uncle that molested you, but put you through college.

Right.

Right.

Yeah, I remember that.

Yep.

Crazy.

It's so good and sweet.

It's so good and sweet.

Yeah, man.

Yeah, man.

So

you are the king of impersonation, right?

Like, I will say no one has an impersonation portfolio like Aerie Spears, right?

Because you

don't.

I think that might have been true at one time.

I think the guy that kind of, if you can even, you know, you want to brand, you know, brand somebody with a title, which I guess to some degree is pretty useless because it's all subjective.

Yeah.

But if you were to brand somebody with that title, I would give that to Jay Farrell.

There's so many, and it seems like he's constantly coming up with new ones.

So

I would give that to Jay Farrell.

My only thing is this.

I just never wanted to be known for just that.

And I'm not, you know, I'm not pointing the finger at anybody, but I think there are guys in this game who do great impressions, phenomenal, but aren't the best comedians.

And then there are guys who are phenomenal comedians who do impressions, but the impressions, eh, they all.

I always wanted to be like Eddie Murphy and be able to marry the two perfectly.

Like, you know what I'm saying?

Like, for me, doing impressions is like being in the NBA as a basketball player and dunking.

I i can dunk anytime i want i want you i want you to know that i can play defense i can grab boards i got i could pass i got high basketball iq so to me the first important part is the stand-up is the material is the wid is is the sharp look is the is the quickness the improv uh the impressions part is needing

But that's why I think you are the GOAT, though, right?

That's why, because

you can go, I don't want to say character to character, you can go impersonation to real to back to an impersonation all in your set, because I see it all the time, right?

Where I think some people, to your point, just live in the impersonation.

And if you took that away from them, they can't go on stage and rock a crowd for an hour, right?

That's why I say you are the king.

You are the goat.

You are the OG.

because I see it in everything you do, bro.

So, so don't give that away.

That's you.

Again, that's, you know it's subjective but but it's my subjection no no no doubt but but that's what i'm saying like i i when i say i study eddie murphy like like that to me is what makes him like richard pryor

is like the babe rupee you know what i mean like

but eddie murphy like you know

I want to, I don't want to give that, I don't want to give Pryor babe Rube.

It's almost like Eddie Murphy is Michael Jordan

and and richard pryer is bill russell you know what i'm saying he got he got more chips but in terms of totality you know and that's and that's why when i get into goat arguments with people people go well if it's about rings bill russell he got 11.

if it's about rings robert or he got seven no it's about totality you know you talk about goat gumboat the recipe to goat gumboat is more than rings.

It's everything.

It encompasses rings, popularity, impact on the game, stats.

You know, it's athleticism.

It's all of it.

And Eddie Morkey, to me,

had all of it.

You know, he killed on every level: TV, SNL, stand-up, delirious, the raw, even though I wish he had more stand-ups.

Movies, of course, the billions of dollars he made, Paramount.

You know,

yeah, Eddie's just complete, man.

Don't disagree.

Don't disagree.

So what do you think is the evolution of comedy now, right?

Because to me,

again, these are the words of Mick and Mick only.

Funny ain't as funny as it used to be to me anymore, right?

Like I still have the people that I just love going to see because I know they're funny, you being one of them, right?

Like I think you and DL are in a class that's different than most people.

But where do you see the evolution of comedy going?

I think it's going to go back to what it once was, uh you know because of political correctness and wokeness and the whole moisture movement the comedy cocaine got diluted you know what i mean a lot of baking soda stepped on and a lot of people scared to take risks because of cancer culture um

i've never i've never i've never cut my comedy cocaine i've always kept it 100% Bolivia Yale.

You know what I mean?

And part of that is because one, I never feared cancel culture because I think Hollywood kind of closed its doors to me and wrote me off a long time ago.

So how can you cancel what Hollywood, to a degree, has already canceled?

And the only thing I can do from this point is figure out how to become the rose in the concrete and rise up.

You know, yeah, they've shut their doors to me.

But, you know, whether I get around it, get over it, get under it, I might not be able to get through it, but there is a way.

And and so you know and maybe to some degree i i while i might not would like that to be the case i'm kind of glad it is the case because i i i don't know that i would have been happy with myself if i would have sold out or diluted my product for the sake of trying to appease people appease feelings you know there's nothing better than having that laugh you feel like you're not supposed to have that sticker that you feel you gotta hide because you know you know what's funny we know what's innately funny and statically funny um and to somehow shield yourself from that because society has told you that's wrong when you're in a place where it is so its sole purpose is for that right that's like i don't i don't go i don't go to strip clubs where i see girls with pacies on like what are we doing here you either show me your titty or you don't right you know what i mean i want to see the areola i want to see the size and the thickness and the the length of the nipple.

I want to see it all.

You know, that's why we're in a strip club.

Right.

But pace these are my jokes.

I love it, bro.

So, what do you hope your contributions to comedy and entertainment will be moving forward?

So, if we were to say the legacy, the impact of Aerie Spears, like, what would you want that to be?

What do you want everybody to say 20 years from now?

Well, you know,

it has yet to be written.

So

I don't know that I fully know.

But based on what they say now,

I'd like to believe that that gets better.

You know, like, I almost cringe a little bit when people say, call me GOAT.

You know, yo, man, you wanted a GOAT.

So you use the word legend, because that to me is Richard Pryor, Eddie Murphy, Bill Cosby.

Red Fox, the dudes who are on the Mount Olympus looking down on us, you know and and i don't think my body of work has been strong enough or extensive enough to warrant that title now if that's how you feel and that you want to give me that okay but i would never give myself that ever of course

of course but here's what i will tell you and i want you to feel this and hear this man like my kids who are early 20s right like yeah they've seen some eddie stuff right like they got to sit with me to go watch pryer stuff, right?

Because they're just not naturally going to go search Richard Pryor.

My three kids, you are that to them.

Like you are to them what a prior and a red fox who, you know, I got to know Red Fox through Sanford and Son, and then I had to go find out how great Red Fox was in stand-up after the fact, right?

Like you are that.

to my kids.

They will tell you that.

My sister, who's four years younger than me, right,

loves her some Aerie Spears.

Like, meaning, like, you are like, Matt TV to her was what SNL was like for me growing up, right?

Like, she will always go back to that.

So, bro, I need you to feel that, man.

Like, you just got to understand everybody can't go to where you and I were from a database of history and comedy.

So, you are that benchmark to a lot of people, bro.

Well, that's why, that's why I say, man,

you know, sometimes when the ego needs to be fed, you know, y'all do a better job of feeding me than the people who are supposed to.

Hey, well,

as a guy that looks up to you, that respects you like none other.

I just need you to know that, bro.

Like,

praiseworthy, cool, but just know that to millions of people, you are that.

Appreciate it, brother.

Thank you.

You got it.

So what's new coming up with Aerie Spears, man?

Where do you want people to follow and find you?

I'll make sure we have all the descriptions in the show notes.

You know, I got the podcast, Spears and Steinberg, which is, you know, got like 600-something episodes.

And this is very important.

I tell people, listen, man, start from the beginning.

I know it's a lot, but binge it.

It's worth it.

It's like masturbation and potato chips.

Once you start, you can stop.

And plus, if you do it that way, you get to follow the evolution of the show from how we started to where we end up, the characters that you'll get to fall in love with the callbacks the jokes and we didn't get on um youtube until two years after we had started so all the like the first couple hundred episodes aren't even available on youtube so i i i've stressed for people to really listen to it on the streaming platforms then watch it but if you do go watch it It's on YouTube at Spearsberg Pod.

Please hit like and subscribe.

Or you can slide into my Instagram and my DMs and I'll send you the links, chop it up with you.

Spears and Steinberg is the name of the pod, girls.

And it is one of my favorite ones.

Like, I don't even have a favorite episode because they all are bangers.

And you're right.

Like binging them is amazing.

I even go back and listen to several of them.

The one with you and Godfrey doing soprano and Jason, like, bro, like that one.

I can literally listen to that one every night before i go to bed like that's how that's how i get it bro and godfrey and godfrey is one of my soldiers in comedy man that's a that's another brother that i know that because of his stance on race and his honesty about racism and white america much like me and he doesn't hold his tongue he is not where he should be he is undervalued and underappreciated but i'm doing everything in my power with this movie i'm trying to get together to change that because a lot of people when they saw me and him do that on uh on the podcast so many people in the comments were like man you and goffrey need to do something together man y'all two i would love to see y'all two y'all chemistry y'all funny so you know we hear a lot of times brothers talk about it but very rare seldom do they be about it.

So I'm trying to be about it and get this movie off the ground,

which will showcase me and him doing what we do hey well if you need somebody to act like a podcaster doing an interview you holler at me i i'll be there for free

cool well brother i appreciate you more than you know i like i said i know you're busy this meant the world to me this meant the world to to my family my community just appreciate you with everything brother brother thank you so much man appreciate the love brother You got it.

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