Dialing the Dead: A Séance with Sam & Colby

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Speaker 1 Hey, weirdos. I'm Elena.
I'm Ash. I'm Sam.
And I'm Colby. And this is a very special Morbid.

Speaker 1 Yay! Let's go!

Speaker 1 We have special guests, Sam and Colby, from you might know them from YouTube. Maybe.
Maybe, maybe.

Speaker 1 Unless you're old, like me, when I found their video for the first time, I was like, guys, you have to watch watch this YouTube channel.

Speaker 1 It's so funny. Their names are Sam and Colby.
And our listeners were like, yeah. Alina, they've been around for like 100,000 years.
100,000.

Speaker 1 Zillion followers. And I was like, oh.

Speaker 1 Well, thank you for having us. Good to be back.

Speaker 1 Good to have you in our real podcast. Yeah.
Not that bank vault that we were in. That we were all sweating in.

Speaker 1 This is a beautiful studio. Thank you.
We've really, you know, we've added to it. We've made it a little more plush and cozy.
Got the spooky vibes for some haunted October

Speaker 1 stories. Oh, yeah.
Hell yeah. What were you calling it? Because it's pre-October now.
Oh, I'm calling it Proctober. So we were saying Proctober.
So we were saying Goody Proctober.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no one means September. It's Proctober.

Speaker 1 We've ended it then now. Yeah.
We know what we're doing around. It's no longer September.
It's goodie Proctober. Yep.
That's the end. The TM.
Don't question it now. No one really likes September.

Speaker 1 It's just all about October. Yeah, because everybody's just waiting for October.
Exactly. You don't have the leaves changed yet.
Like, come on.

Speaker 1 Come on, let's pick some apples. Let's go.
Let's get to it. Yeah.
Are you an apple picker? I love picking apples.

Speaker 1 Wait, I love how that's like a classification. Like, are you an apple picker? I am.

Speaker 1 Have you guys gone apple picking? Never know. Oh, shut the fuck up.
You're missing. Why did we not take you apple picking?

Speaker 1 Okay, we're adding that to the itinerary next time we hang out.

Speaker 1 Let's do it. We have to.
You never picked an apple? I mean, that's like a New England thing we take for granted, I think. Yeah.
It's very good.

Speaker 1 I was going to say, driving out here in New England, this is a whole different world. Well, you were in the forest.
Like, it's crazy. Yeah, I mean, you went to a Longhorn for the first time.
You did.

Speaker 1 We collectively got that Longhorn.

Speaker 1 True, true. We were all in that Longhorn.

Speaker 1 What? Let me rephrase that.

Speaker 1 We ate that Longhorn steakhouse, guys. Correction.

Speaker 1 Asterisk to clarify. It's a steak place.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Restaurant.

Speaker 1 It's very cowboy-themed.

Speaker 1 It was a wild ride. It really was.
But yeah, we need to take you apple picking. It's an experience.
Yeah. You get your apple cider donuts.

Speaker 1 Oh, this is just getting me so excited for like all the holidays. Oh, yeah.
Pumpkin patches. Halloween.
Okay, so you do do pumpkin patches. We do pumpkin patches and we do an annual Halloween party.

Speaker 1 Oh, I'm so stoked. Every single year.

Speaker 1 You guys are invited.

Speaker 1 Oh, thank you. You guys want to come? We will fly off that.
We fly out. Go for a rager.
Iconic. I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 LA in like october is insane really like a hundred costume parties like all sure people go all out i've never seen anything like it it's the only like social time of the year for la for some reason yeah it's like everybody hides in their home like all year and then halloween happens and like all of october it's a party after party and you can like hide in a costume exactly that's everybody

Speaker 1 prep our costumes months in advance we already have set up we have at least five it's like oh my god lots of really fun so is it just like the one party or do you do like a ton of dressing up i mean there's a lot of other parties, but we do our annual Halloween party as like one big event at the end of October, which is a celebration of our end of like season.

Speaker 1 Because for us, October is like our Super Bowl. Oh, yeah,

Speaker 1 yeah, honestly, sick sense. Yeah, I would assume too.
Yeah, oh, yeah. I know October now that I'm a mom has become like because I'm obsessed with making my kids' costumes from scratch, no matter what.

Speaker 1 You make them, I will not buy a costume. She makes sick costumes.
She has to

Speaker 1 sew them and everything. Yeah.
I like learned how to sew for that. What have you made before? Like, what's your favorite one? So I made when they were little,

Speaker 1 one of my twins wanted to be the moon. And I was like, cutest thing ever.
We'll show you pictures after. She was like, I want to be the moon.
And I think she was like. two or three.

Speaker 1 And I was like, all right, how do I make this so it's not just like the moon? And it was, I like made like a plushy moon that her face fit into.

Speaker 1 So she was like the crescent moon. And then there was a bunch of like ribbons coming down from it.
It was really cool. very proud of that one.
What was your other? What was the other galaxy?

Speaker 1 We've done. Oh, she was an owl.
An owl. Yeah, she was an owl.
That was a cute one. We're doing K-pop demon hunters this year, though.
Oh, okay. That's huge.
Good idea.

Speaker 1 I had to make a roomie costume, so now I'm making like spangly outfits.

Speaker 1 There we go. Yeah.
We need you to make ours like this.

Speaker 1 Tell me what you want to be about your doctor.

Speaker 1 I have an entire like craft room downstairs. That's just all like costume making things now at this point.
Yeah, it's sick. I love how serious you guys like take Halloween.
Oh, I take it so seriously.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
From like birth, essentially. And I know there's going to be a time where they're eventually going to be like, mom, I don't want you to make my costume anymore.
She's like, why?

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're going to still cover me.

Speaker 1 Like, what do you mean? I'm insulted.

Speaker 1 But yeah. But yeah.
Next time you're coming apple picking. See that you can make an apple pie with freshware.

Speaker 1 Apple picking. Yeah.
100%.

Speaker 1 That's us. And then you guys come to the Halloween party.

Speaker 1 Apple and then go to a rager. Yes, there we go.
Love it.

Speaker 1 We show you ours and then we move on. Exactly.
Our two different worlds collide. We swap Halloweens.
Yeah. There we go.
I love that.

Speaker 1 Well, honestly, everybody probably knows who you are and probably knows your YouTube channel. You have like nearly 15 million subscribers.
Am I correct? Something like that. Yeah, it came close.

Speaker 1 That's absolutely insane. That's wild.
That's wild. How many years have you been at it?

Speaker 1 We started our YouTube channel in 2014, I believe. So 11 years.

Speaker 1 wow that's the year i graduated high school holy

Speaker 1 that's crazy that that's 11 years yeah

Speaker 1 that's insane wow it's been a wild ride for sure but we've been only doing like the haunted stuff for about five six years yeah okay so what'd you start off as so at first we were starting on vine we did a bunch of like comedy videos and stuff like that

Speaker 1 exactly i loved vine

Speaker 1 we did like public pranks like back in the day oh yeah i mean run around on walmart and like get on the intercoms and stuff like that That's fun. During our hospitality, you're going to do on mine.

Speaker 1 Exactly. You only got six seconds.

Speaker 1 Then we moved to like YouTube and we started doing like all of like the tags and like, I don't know if you remember 2015, 2016 YouTube where there's like boyfriend, girlfriend tags, like question and answers, things like that all over the internet, all over YouTube.

Speaker 1 We were doing like a lot of those types of videos, but ultimately decided to like...

Speaker 1 do what we loved which was going to abandoned places fun we grew up in kansas city and um on the weekends there was not much to do besides like go and exploring abandoned places with your friends and so we decided to to film that out in LA when we were trying to figure out exactly what we wanted to like genuinely do and then that naturally led us into haunted networks

Speaker 1 makes sense it feels right yeah yeah right feels like you were made to do this it really does exactly and you guys have an escape room now? We do.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it just opened up on Hollywood Boulevard, which is insane. God sadass.
That's wild to think about. That's crazy.

Speaker 1 I remember visiting Los Angeles in 2014, like six months after we started, being dang, one day, like we got to move here.

Speaker 1 And like walking around Hollywood Boulevard being, dang, this would be so cool. And now we have an escape room.
Now you have like Hollywood Boulevard. It's like

Speaker 1 it's a big full circle moment. Yeah, for sure.
Seriously. I love an escape room.
I know. How did that idea come about?

Speaker 1 So we had been there in the past. We actually got invited by Hot Topic to do a photo shoot there.
That's amazing. I love that.
It's at a venue or like a spot called the Escape Hotel.

Speaker 1 and so it's like a just a giant like yeah venue it has like a stage and everything there's people that perform it's so cool it's like a bar on top and stuff and it has a super like creepy ambient vibe uh to it and so like when we went there to shoot uh we met like the managers and then our management got in contact with theirs and we came up with the idea and it took took a little bit of time but we um we finally got it like this past like six months and it's been amazing that's so cool we've been really interested in trying to go like in person with a lot of these types of events because i think a big part of why people watch our videos is they feel like they are coming on these adventures with us.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And so we're like, okay, well, like, how can we actually give people some sort of adventure, some sort of like story? So between the escape room and like the year before, we opened up a

Speaker 1 haunted venue or we bought a haunted venue called Ferrar School in Iowa.

Speaker 1 And like, so we're just trying to like over the course of time, just like get people in person and like, how do you actually give this experience to people? And it's been really an interesting ride.

Speaker 1 Yeah, sure. Yeah, it sounds like such a cool idea.

Speaker 1 That's that's such a perfect way to connect with your audience too because it's like a perfect combo of everything yeah because i feel like even people who are like a little hesitant to do like haunted things and are scared i feel like an escape room is like a safe way

Speaker 1 i love escape i don't know why they are so safe

Speaker 1 i haven't done one since like middle school but i want to go to oh you just did one we do them so much because i'm so competitive with them

Speaker 1 i always want to pick like the hardest level when they give you like the levels that you can do like hardest yeah i would end up getting locked in there for days. Yeah,

Speaker 1 obviously they end, but if they didn't, then imagine like our escape room is like, you have to escape. Then you would like literally,

Speaker 1 okay? Or you stay forever. That's the next step.
Speaking of, you guys should like come out. You should try ours anytime.
So let us know. And we made it extremely hard for a reason.
Oh, hell yeah.

Speaker 1 And so there's,

Speaker 1 you know, the percent like success rate? I forgot. That's 30%.
30%.

Speaker 1 Like, he's like, I know. I love that.

Speaker 1 That makes me want to do it more. The lower the success success rate, the more like, I'm going to get out of there.

Speaker 1 I'll go with you and I'll get it by association. There you go.
We've put out a challenge that the fastest time to complete it with no clues by Halloween gets to be a part of the escape room. Oh shit.

Speaker 1 Putting their faces in.

Speaker 1 Oh, no.

Speaker 1 My face is going to be in there. Yeah, we have to now.

Speaker 1 It's just me. Zero faces here I am.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Oh, I love it.
We did one in New York once, John and I, and it was like a, it was actually like an old hotel kind of theme, and we didn't make it out. And I think about it to this day.

Speaker 1 I'm still angry.

Speaker 1 You're bitter about it still.

Speaker 1 Are you blaming John? I'm like, it's your fault. I'm like, you were too slow on that one puzzle.
It was your fault. Every morning, like, I remember.
Remember that hotel?

Speaker 1 I'll never forget. Never forget.
I love it. Oh, so cool, though.
So, going back, you purchased an elementary school in Iowa, Farrar, Iowa, and you lived in it for like a week. We did.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was our way to announce it to the world.

Speaker 1 It's like, we bought it we realized there was a lot of renovations needed because one of the biggest reasons that we bought the place is because it was about to be demolished yeah like there was threatening of demolition because it was kind of breaking down it was a really old building over 100 years old um and so we had to repair it and then we're like okay well we want to open this up for investigations because like our you know again one of our big goals is to give these people like the experience of investigating themselves and so we're like okay how do how do we want to announce this to the world well let's just do the craziest investigation can and lock ourselves in our own school.

Speaker 1 I cannot leave for an entire week. That's wild.

Speaker 1 It was wild. Yeah, and it's pretty interesting there because there's a lot of different spirits.
There's a bunch of like children's spirits who were students, like one, yeah, back in the day.

Speaker 1 But there's also like a principal sort of like figure who owns the school. He's a nice guy, but he's also very strict.

Speaker 1 Principles. Exactly.
So you got to respect that.

Speaker 1 Exactly. But then in the gym, there's a boiler room to like the left side of it.
And that has something very, very dark in there. And we believe that there is like a portal

Speaker 1 that we weren't able to close. But yeah, something's definitely dark as well.
Oh, damn. That's like Frank Krueger energy.
Yeah. And the boiler room.
Like over the, you know.

Speaker 1 perks of owning a spot now, we get to see all of the other investigations that are happening there and like react to them.

Speaker 1 And there's like, we have security cameras over there that capture all these things. We capture so many like really interesting paranormal evidence.

Speaker 1 And we have been seeing over the course of the last year that even since we've left, especially in this boiler room, like the energy's gotten darker and darker and people went sprinting out of the school like getting threatened all the time.

Speaker 1 And we're like, God dang, it's like worse than when we came.

Speaker 1 Like, God dang, it's insane. What is in there? Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's pretty wild, but it's been really interesting because unlike, you know, most of the places that we get to go to are just like for a couple hours at night or maybe an overnight stay, like being able to not only go there for the week, but then continually see everybody and then being able to go back whenever we want is just like a much different experience.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 So it's like an ongoing investigation. Exactly.
We're always used to just like going in for one night like you guys experienced and then just filming it and then that's it.

Speaker 1 But like having like a 24-7 like camera system. Yeah.
Like we're able to like actually conduct research and like when nobody's there if like a door opens like we we can see that stuff and so cool.

Speaker 1 We're definitely going to be talking about like that sort of security fan cam footage like in the future

Speaker 1 like those security cameras has like literally caught some crazy stuff like we've seen full-on shadow figures we've seen like footsteps you know almost like i don't you guys seen harry potter yeah like that map that sees people like walk yeah like literally things like that like walls moving out of nowhere where no one's in the room and it's like oh okay like owning a haunted building you see some wacky stuff like this is a great idea it's super cool last story like our buddy exploring with josh he was filming a video there so it's on his channel But

Speaker 1 there's an intercom that goes like around the entire building that the principal obviously uses to talk to all the students.

Speaker 1 And it's only like able to be turned on in the principal's office downstairs. And they were all the way upstairs, and just you could hear it turn on the entire school.

Speaker 1 Oh, and so it's there's some stuff going on there. And like, did anybody say anything, or was it just like the click on? No voices, it just clicked on and had that kind of like loud

Speaker 1 diet. Yeah, uh-huh.
Oh, what the fuck?

Speaker 1 That's so scary. I would hate that a lot.
Messed up there for sure. That's so cool, though.
It reminds me of, like, I don't know if you guys have seen Hellhouse LLC.

Speaker 1 I feel like I would love it. Okay.

Speaker 1 It's a found footage movie, but it's like an amazing one. It's fun, like very good.

Speaker 1 And they have to stay in later they're like coming up with a haunted house for Halloween, but they like buy an old haunted location and they stay in it for a week. That just made me think of it.

Speaker 1 It turned out differently, so I'm glad. Yeah, it went better for you.
Yeah, it went better for you guys. Definitely watch that.
Okay, yeah, we'll check that out. That's really good.

Speaker 1 Because as soon as you said you stayed there for a week, I was like, you survived. That's great.
Yeah. Thank God.
Yes,

Speaker 1 Cyrus survived a bunch of ghost hunting now. We didn't realize since our last podcast has been ghost hunting more and more often.
Yeah, we got inspired from our USS Salem trip. We had so much fun.

Speaker 1 Let's go. It was so fun.
We were like, as soon as we left that, we were like, when can we do this again? Yeah, this was so fun. What was the first thing we did after that? Is that?

Speaker 1 Probably Lizzie Borden. Again, right? Because we had already gone before.
Yeah. We went back there and stayed for a night.
spot. Yeah, we've done a few.
Talk about true crime right there.

Speaker 1 That's crazy. Yeah.
That's one of the biggest. I still want to know what happened there.
It's just so heavy when you walk in there, like immediately. You can feel it.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. That was one of the darkest places.
Yeah. Yeah.
Especially the stepmother's room where she was killed. Oh, yeah.
That's a gnarly room.

Speaker 1 That room and then like the kids' room where all the toys are. That room freaks me the fuck out.

Speaker 1 Are you talking about like the attic? Yeah, yeah, exactly. That's so creepy.
Yeah, there's something weird in there for sure.

Speaker 1 Wait, so with all the places you guys have gotten to, do you ever feel like anything follows you or comes with you? Because you've been to a ton of locations. That's a yes.

Speaker 1 I'm like, did you bring something into our office? We're like, oh, you guys are screaming.

Speaker 1 So sorry, guys. We're just going to leave you with a present.
Exactly. She's over here.
Leave you with a little friend, you know?

Speaker 1 A lot of people say that. It's actually really...

Speaker 1 creepy that like sometimes we'll walk up to a place and like someone be like hey i'm a psychic and you have something attached to you oh and i'm like yes oh, I don't like that. I would do that a lot.

Speaker 1 One time, too, where it wasn't even like I think she claimed to be a psychic, but do you remember the story?

Speaker 1 We haven't talked about this in so long where we went to like a Ralph's one time in LA and there was like a random worker there that was just like, Hey, I'm a fan, like, I've been watching your channel, and like, you have to tell Sam that something's following him.

Speaker 1 I see it, like, I saw it in the store, and like, it was like to our faces, and we were like,

Speaker 1 All right, like, thanks, thanks for the bananas, like Lero and

Speaker 1 damn. Yeah, I remember an old guy

Speaker 1 in a parking lot stopping me and being like, you're not going to be okay. Oh, my God.
I was like, you know, do not tell me that.

Speaker 1 Just out of nowhere?

Speaker 1 And that's it? Like, period? You're not going to be okay?

Speaker 1 Why? And he's like, no, you need to get cleansed. And I'm like, oh, God.
Have you guys been cleansed before?

Speaker 1 We do that a lot more now. Yeah, I bet.

Speaker 1 We're taking a lot more precautions and like making sure we're a lot more safe with our investigations that we do. It's so scary.

Speaker 1 But definitely, to answer your question, there's been a lot of people saying things have followed us. There's been a lot of people in parking lots in grocery stores.
I don't understand.

Speaker 1 And definitely, we have a spot in Vegas. We stay there most of the time.
And

Speaker 1 that house is definitely haunted for sure.

Speaker 1 Your spot in Vegas, you said? Yeah, our spot in Vegas. It's like our main residence, but we'll like see

Speaker 1 like shadows going underneath like the door and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 So like sometimes I'll think like Sam's like walking like like by my door and I'm like oh like he needs to ask you a question or whatever like why not just knock open it up nobody there you hear noises all the time oh damn there was one time like we were all like playing a game with some like friends and

Speaker 1 there was like a how do I describe it like a somebody like hit our blind like shade or whatever you know the ones that you can like pull down that are like yeah it's not like the shades like this it's like the yeah like horizontal ones or whatever we had that pulled down or whatever and then just like somebody like punched it yeah randomly.

Speaker 1 Imagine like this, the shade has been completely still for like an hour while we're playing this game, and then boom, it's like it got punched. Oh, impacted crazy.

Speaker 1 It's like, whoa, we all just turned around. Like, what just happened? And, like, not like somebody punched it, like, you're punching at the window, but like it's coming this way, if that makes sense.

Speaker 1 Oh, like through the window. Oh, okay.
Oh, yeah. So it was not like a concave, it was like a convex.

Speaker 1 Nice and tabular.

Speaker 1 This kind of like geometry and stuff.

Speaker 1 Wow, that's terrifying. Yeah.
Did you need to get a new shade? Well, no, thank God.

Speaker 1 What is your missed? Shades are expensive. Exactly.
Damn. Yeah.
Wow. Holy shit.
We've had some like weird things happen in this room.

Speaker 1 The other day, in fact, we were filming, not filming, we were recording like a

Speaker 1 middle of it, we just have a calendar over there that like never goes off. And it will like if we complete a task, but we had not completed a task that day.

Speaker 1 So in the middle of telling the story, it just made this like

Speaker 1 musical sound. It was like a lullaby sound.

Speaker 1 I usually sit where you're sitting, Sam. I almost went through that.

Speaker 1 I was like, oh my god.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I went over there and nothing was on the screen. It hadn't like given a notification.
It just was like this creepy lullaby sound. And we were like, it was so loud.
It was like,

Speaker 1 yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we've had weird shit happen. I'm trying to think of other weird instances in here.
The TV, it won't now, but but the TV very slowly

Speaker 1 fell on Ash's head in the middle of her class. The TV is like attached to the wall.
Like it's

Speaker 1 fully on you.

Speaker 1 And it literally, I, again, I sit where you're sitting and it just crashed onto my head.

Speaker 1 Nobody moved. It was like slow motion.
There wasn't a bang. It just literally was like.

Speaker 1 Attempted murder question mark. And you were like, lol.

Speaker 1 I could not stop laughing. You said it was the noise I made.
It was, yeah. But we've had little things.

Speaker 1 I mean, this house says a few things because my youngest, I don't know if, I don't think I've told you, have I told you guys about Skeletone?

Speaker 1 I don't think so. It's like an honorary human reteller, I guess.
Yeah, I feel like so our listeners are going to be like, Jesus Christ, we're going to hear about Skeletone again.

Speaker 1 No, you'll never stop hearing that Skeletone. Skeletone, okay.
My youngest, when she was three, I would say. Maybe even older.
Maybe two or three.

Speaker 1 She would come in and tell us that she saw something in her room, which we were like, oh, great. Here we are.
And we were like, who is it? And she was like, his name is Skeletone.

Speaker 1 But she would say it like that, like, not Skeleton, Skeletone. Like, oh, Skeleton.
Yeah. Like, his name is Skeleton.
And I was like, Skeletone? Okay. And I'm like, what is he?

Speaker 1 And she was like, he's a skeleton. And I was like, oh.
And she's like, and he sits on my bookshelf

Speaker 1 and watches me. And I said, okay.
I was like, is he mean? And she was like, no, he's not. He's a nice guy.
He's a nice guy. That's what she said.
That was a great.

Speaker 1 And she said, his bones look old. And I was like, how do you know that? Because like you're two or three.
And she said,

Speaker 1 they're like brown and dark. How does she know that? And I was like, why would you know that? Like, she didn't even know what real bones look like.
She's wild. Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 She's the one we were telling you about. That's

Speaker 1 my worst nightmare. And she, and I asked her, I was like, so she sits on your bookshelf? Like, how does he sit? And she was like, oh.
She said, he lays like this. Oh, God.
Which I was like, oh,

Speaker 1 it's kind of like a steep dance.

Speaker 1 What are you doing? Why are you watching my child? What are you doing? Just like, but he's gone now. Yeah.
Oh, yeah. He would leave every once in a while.
And I was like, oh, he leaves and comes back.

Speaker 1 I was like, he comes back though. And she goes, yeah, he leaves sometimes to go visit his family.

Speaker 1 His family? His family. He's a family.

Speaker 1 And one day he left to see his family and didn't come back. And I was like, stay with me.

Speaker 1 We found your family. Even scarier, because who showed up then? Yeah.
So we got rid of Skeleton. And we upgraded.
She was kind of, she was like, miss. She was like a little bummed.

Speaker 1 She was like, like oh skeleton didn't come back and i was like all right that's fine and then one day she in the middle of hide and seek my husband and her were playing hide and seek and they were like hiding under a blanket together and she was like oh i hope the mister doesn't see us

Speaker 1 and he was like what and she was like the mister and he was like you have to explain to me what the mister is well and she he said like oh no he won't find us yeah because she goes she because he she explained like he's a guy with no eyes oh god sometimes he takes the snacks in our pantry apparently which i think is looking which i think is just her and that's

Speaker 1 she's just like overrunning it up yeah but she said like he's a little scary she doesn't like him and so john was like oh he won't find us like trying to like maintain composure and she goes oh no the mister will always find us oh and he was like all right game over i don't know what to do that's the most ominous i've ever heard in my life

Speaker 1 horrifying damn yeah the mister will always find us

Speaker 1 anymore.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but if you bring him up, she's like, oh, yeah, I remember him. Yeah.
Like, she remembers him. Oh, my God.
Yeah. And Skeleton.
Yeah. We have a history of creepy children in this family.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I was a creepy child. You were a creepy child.
Were you a creepy child? I don't think I was. No, actually, yeah, you were because you used to just like sway and talk about flags.
Oh, I used to store.

Speaker 1 I just sleep. I was a sleepwalker.
But you were a creepy sleepwalker. I mean, all sleepwalkers, I feel like, are pretty creepy.
Yeah. That is very true.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Seeing anybody less.

Speaker 1 4 a.m.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
No, thank you. Yeah.
I used to see a ton of ghosts when I was little. Yeah, you did.

Speaker 1 I saw, I used to live at Elena's parents' house because we're like aunt and niece technically, but really like sisters.

Speaker 1 And that house is haunted as fuck. Yeah.
It's like an old farmhouse. I think it's like 100 years old.
Oh. Like an old farmhouse.
Maybe a little more. 100 years old.
Yeah. Yeah.
And I would see like.

Speaker 1 I saw like a little boy one time, like a farm boy with like a cap and like, you know, like those like old timey pants. And then the socks would be like up.

Speaker 1 I saw him like like in the corner of our shared room just like reading a book and i like woke

Speaker 1 so little when she said this i think i was like five probably and uh i still can see it in my head whoa and i woke my mom up and i was like the boy is like reading like there's a boy in here he's reading your book and she was like no no no no like go back to sleep and she woke up and her book was wedged in the closet and she had not left it there

Speaker 1 No way.

Speaker 1 And I like hadn't gotten out of bed or anything.

Speaker 1 Jeez. But it was non-threatening.
It was just kind of like an apparition doing a thing. I was just chilling.
Yeah. I was just reading the book.
I was probably like, like, what the hell is this?

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's crazy. He probably saw you too and has like a story to tell his ghost friends.

Speaker 1 I saw a girl there. It's crazy.
Like, this girl saw me.

Speaker 1 She was telling her mom. Her mom didn't believe her.
Yeah. What do you think about that? Like, I feel like when we're kids, we are so much more open to seeing spirits and other things like that.

Speaker 1 I don't know. Definitely.
Obviously, every kid has had their imaginary friend. But I don't know.
A lot of me thinks that sometimes they aren't. imaginary friends.

Speaker 1 We're just more open to it with the kids. And then, you know, because you're not scared yet, I think.

Speaker 1 And you're open to everything. Yeah.
Like kids have no biases. No, like...
Society hasn't told you what you have to believe and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 So I think they're just totally open. Did you guys see shit when you were kids? More so.

Speaker 1 Not as like vivid, I think, as those types of things. But like, I used to,

Speaker 1 especially like, you know, fifth grade and below I'd get like deja vu like once a week. It was super really like to the point where I was like

Speaker 1 predicting things that were about to happen

Speaker 1 I've seen this thing she's about to say this okay yeah and then she just said this it was like super fucking weird happened all the time when I was a kid that's now like less I don't know it's weird yeah but now I don't see much yeah I only had one really haunted kind of scary experience when I was like super young I think I was in sixth grade so what 11 12 yeah something like that and um I was really getting into like Christianity for like the first time in my life and I was um this was during a time in my life where I was like going to like a Bible like camp and I was also like during the weekdays like I would have like a Bible study on a Wednesday and then go to church on Sunday so I was like really just involved with it and it's it's hard to explain but like I had a loft bed right so like it was one of those where you had to like climb ladder to get on top there's like a desk underneath and it happened like three nights like in a matter of like a week or two or something like that but right before I was about to fall asleep like right before I was like losing consciousness I just heard like a

Speaker 1 like in my like right in my ear and it like woke me up and then I would try to go back to sleep and then like right in my ear

Speaker 1 like to the point where like I knew I wasn't like dreaming I wasn't like going crazy I ran to my mom's room I told her the story and that happened again like two other nights in like a yeah a month maybe I don't know at that point like you just said like 11 or something like 11 or 12 yeah something like that and yeah I still to this day don't know what it was but like part of me part of me believes that like because i was getting into christianity and stuff like that like it was something trying to open it to scare me or like i don't know i have no idea maybe but i've told that story like once once before oh that's so creepy yeah i don't know what it was i want to know what to do this day and it's never happened to me for the rest

Speaker 1 of my life yeah and it was just like a couple nights that it happened yeah it was Again, this was so long ago, so I'm not going to lie. I don't know.

Speaker 1 I think it was like, it happened like two or three nights.

Speaker 1 And then like, it would happen like three times i mean that's significant i would say to the point where again i went and woke up my mom at 12 years old yeah no exactly in middle school like obviously you don't want to do that i'm like hey mom like there's something breathing in my ear before i like fall asleep so scary and it was so bad that i had to um wear headphones oh yeah to go to sleep because i was afraid of something like breathing my ear i would have anxiety i could you like

Speaker 1 feel it too like hear it and feel it or just hear it it would just be like a loud breath no no feeling yeah damn and that's it too no words it was just kind of like a

Speaker 1 like wake up

Speaker 1 that's so annoying i really hate that because they're like shitting himself

Speaker 1 scary no that's that's terrifying and it's the worst when you're a parent of a child who does that because you have to like keep your shit together that's something i'm not

Speaker 1 traumatized them by being like that's terrifying like are you serious like when they first told me about when oh the twin the twins yeah i didn't even think of that my

Speaker 1 my older ones they did they haven't really had a lot of things, but they had one. They just knocked it out of the place.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they had the home room with the one thing they had. And it was in the our we had, we lived in a house that was from like 1860.
So it was like crazy old. We always felt some stuff there.

Speaker 1 It had like a lot of history. That place was scary.
I used to sleep on the couch in the living room when I would come over, and I would like hear shit in the dining room.

Speaker 1 There was a lot going on in that house. And they happened to be in their like first like bed beds, like toddler beds.
So they weren't in like cribs anymore and they were like next to the door.

Speaker 1 and they just started yelling one night and john and i run up the stairs because we're like what happened we thought one of them like fell out of bed or something and they're both sitting there like up in bed and one of them says like please get them to leave and we were like

Speaker 1 what like what are you talking about and she was like people came in here with scissors and we're trying to cut our sheets oh

Speaker 1 my god what john literally

Speaker 1 i love john's reaction

Speaker 1 we're standing in the doorway and john just goes i'm out like he was like like, he was like, this one's okay.

Speaker 1 Because he was like, I'm going to fuck this up

Speaker 1 if I can't. So I was like, what? Okay.
And I'm like,

Speaker 1 what? And I'm like, is it a lot of people? And they're like, yeah, a lot of people came in and we're trying, a couple of them were trying to cut our sheet.

Speaker 1 And they're like, I burn my house down personally.

Speaker 1 Well, we'll start fresh somewhere else. I was like, okay.
And so I'm like, the doorway was right like next to their bed. And then there's this little like nook right here where the attic was.

Speaker 1 It's like a door to the attic. It was a very like spooky little area.
So I was like, yeah, I would be scared too. So I stood in the doorway and I was like, are they in the room right now?

Speaker 1 And she was like, no. And I was like, where are they? And she goes, right there.
And she pointed behind me in the little dark ass hallway. Oh my God.
So I was like, oh my God. Okay.

Speaker 1 And so I, I didn't know what to do. You're a brave bench for that.
Backwards into the nook. And I was like, so they're like around me right now.
And she was like, yes, they're right around me.

Speaker 1 And I was like,

Speaker 1 I was like, okay. And I was like, listen, guys.

Speaker 1 And I just like talked to them and was like, you're scaring them like they're kids this is their house that's not cool to do like you can't scare them like you can and I was like and even if you want to come in our room and fuck with us you can but like you can't be in this room this is not okay and like please leave that's horrifying and it never happened again like maybe set your boundary I do feel like spirits somewhat listen to intentions you know or like boundaries we had to sleep in their room that night but it never happened again

Speaker 1 no we've been told that like um even if you can experience really scary things like that um spirits do have to listen to you you can demand them like we always say like do not follow us home you cannot touch me that even happened to us like the other the other night yeah which we can get into but um yeah like if you if you tell them like firmly they have to listen yeah yeah i believe it you have the power over them wait on a scale of like one to ten how much do you guys believe in the ghosts and the paranormal stuff oh like 350.

Speaker 1 really i'm a full believer okay i just don't think i think there's way too much evidence that there's some kind of afterlife and that even if, even if spirits, like quote unquote, aren't actual people, I think energy goes somewhere.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? Energy doesn't die, yeah.

Speaker 1 It's a fact. I think I'm like a I'm like a seven or eight now.
Okay, so

Speaker 1 there we go.

Speaker 1 When your kids are saying these types of things, like were you not like just shitting bricks?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think when they were saying these, like when that, when the scissors one happened, I was probably like a four or five. okay

Speaker 1 that's why i felt a little more comfortable being like hey don't don't be in this room assholes it is so crazy to me that we grew up in the same haunted ass home and that you are not more of a believer i know because i i just want to like explain it i think it's just energy i think that's how you explain it yeah i think that's why i'm getting more like what were mainly the things that brought you from a four to a seven right now i think now that we've gone through some of these like i had never really done it that much so i didn't i had like things going on in my own house but i could kind of explain in them away in some way.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Or just in my brain explain them away.
I was like, it's fine.

Speaker 1 But these kind of things, like even like getting touched by something, I think when we went to the USS Salem, something like blew in my ear. Oh, yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And I fully felt it, like fully felt it and did not expect to feel it. So it like scared the shit.
I think I jumped like 40 feet in the air. Like

Speaker 1 that was terrifying. I think those kind of things, I just can't.

Speaker 1 How do you explain that?

Speaker 1 And feelings now. Like going into certain, like Lizzie Borden, going into that house, I was like, this feels different.
Right. We've both been told before.

Speaker 1 And I think you were recently told again, like, that we're intuitive. Yeah.
You know, so I do think you're starting. I think you're more open to it now.

Speaker 1 So you're starting to feel it more when we go to these different places. Yeah.
I think before I was like, no,

Speaker 1 no, I don't. You're like locked off a little bit.
Yeah, which kind of goes like full circle to like the kids and stuff like experiencing this because it's like, you're just more open in general.

Speaker 1 i think like spirits or or the energies whatever you want to call it out there can like tell if you're like closed-minded and there's actually a term of it called like a blockhead where you just go away you're just blocking people believe it so they don't

Speaker 1 infiltrate yeah yeah so they're like oh this guy's not going to believe but if you are open to it that's when stuff starts starts happening that makes sense that makes a lot of sense actually because i try when we go into these places to be as like open-minded as possible because i'm like well if i'm gonna experience it i should experience it yeah yeah don't try to be like the asshole who's like, I'm not going to believe any of this.

Speaker 1 I'm just not going to try to debunk everything. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's what we tell all of our guests that when we walk in, it's like, hey, like, if we notice them being like kind of like a blockhead, it's like, well, you're not going to get anything if you're literally going out to deny it.

Speaker 1 You know, when we first started ghost hunting, we both like, we didn't believe in the paranormal side of it much.

Speaker 1 And we didn't get much, you know, but then when we really were out there, like, okay, well, you know, put the cameras off. Let's actually try to get something to happen just purely out of interest.

Speaker 1 That's when we started getting stuff happening. Yeah.
So I was like, that's always the best way to go about it when ghost hunting and all these different things. Be open-minded.

Speaker 1 Like, let things happen. Makes sense.
That's the thing. When you just let it happen, it happens.
It sure does. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like when we were at Lizzie Borden, and we'll get into our little game in a second, but when we went to Lizzie Borden, we were all sitting, we were with Corinne and Sabrina from Two Girls, One Ghost.

Speaker 1 And we were sitting in the kitchen or like the dining room. That's where we were.
Yeah, the dining room. And we were all just reading from like the guest book where people have put their experiences.

Speaker 1 And I think Sabrina was reading them out loud. And like, just, she was like, let's just see what happens if I read these things out loud and see if anything happens.

Speaker 1 From up, we were alone in the house. We had booked the whole house just for the four of us.
From upstairs, a woman's voice yelled something so clearly. It was like, who's there, wasn't it?

Speaker 1 It yelled like, who's there? And it was a woman's voice. And you can hear it on the camera, because we have like a camera just sitting on the.

Speaker 1 I literally joke just thinking about it. Because you can see us on the camera.
All of us just be like, what was that? And we searched. Nothing was up there.
No one was up there.

Speaker 1 You were so scared to the point where, like, Alina thought somebody broke into the house. Yeah, I was like, is there so many in here?

Speaker 1 That is terrifying. That's what I was more scared of.
I was like, is there like a real person in here? We were afraid of real people.

Speaker 1 Definitely. It was so clear, though.
And we weren't really trying to do anything. We were just reading the experiences and just sitting there.
And I was like, that was the clearest thing we had heard.

Speaker 1 Yeah. All night.
It was gnarly. It was horrifying.

Speaker 1 It was so scary. Were you guys filming too? Yeah.
yeah i think we have that on camera we do somewhere yeah okay so cool i was eating starburst so i didn't hear it

Speaker 1 i think it's just me and corando are like did everyone hear that yeah yeah yeah it was terrifying but on the on the thing like the recording back you can hear it fully until you heard it yeah

Speaker 1 you just can't make out what she's saying yeah but you can hear like a voice in the distance it was terrifying horrifying yeah yeah god it's the noises when they're like outside like even like when we were doing it and the noises that were happening like in the distance.

Speaker 1 Yes, those are the things freaking me up.

Speaker 1 And you guys still get scared. Oh, yeah, I mean, which is like surprising in a way.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there's some some things that we're like, okay, like we've heard these types of things before, but there's always stuff that's new. Yeah, it's always like, you know, like jarring.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's the story that really freaks me out.

Speaker 1 So even though we've been doing it for years, like some would think that we would get used to it, but it's, it's not the case because like we'll spend like a week beforehand like researching it, studying it, watching YouTube videos, all that.

Speaker 1 And so like we're kind of prepping prepping ourselves to like go. And so, when we walk in, we're like, oh man, we've already learned so much about this place.
And that's what like makes it freaky.

Speaker 1 That makes a lot of sense. Yeah.
Because you're just so familiar with like every facet of the house. You know everything about the story.

Speaker 1 And so, like, when you've heard that there's, for example, like a door slamming or something like that, and then that happens to you, it just ultimately makes it 10 times more sensitive.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, for sure. And you're like, what's coming?

Speaker 1 When it's outside the room, I'm like, is it coming here?

Speaker 1 And what are we going to do when it comes to it? How do do I fight this? Exactly.

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Speaker 1 Of all the places you've gone to, do you have a favorite?

Speaker 1 Like, in terms of like most scary? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or just like one that I would say most scary, or that you like had the most crazy experiences at.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's really interesting.

Speaker 1 I mean, one, like, personally, the thing that scares me the absolute most

Speaker 1 is an upcoming video that we have. It's, we went to the Paris Catacombs.
Oh, stop it. It's 200 miles of the largest graveyard in the world.
6 million dead bodies buried underneath Paris.

Speaker 1 And it's just miles and miles of a labyrinth of different like caves, systems, and everything like that. And there's no map.

Speaker 1 You can get lost so easily in the world. So easily.
We know so many people that got lost that, you know,

Speaker 1 got threatened to be robbed. There's gangs down there.
People die down there. It's really rough in terms of just like the physical danger.

Speaker 1 And then you got to think, it might be one of the most haunted places in the world with 6 million dead bodies down there and all the ritualistic stuff that's gone down there.

Speaker 1 It's really, really dark things. But I

Speaker 1 we've known about that for a long time, and I've pushed off that video for I think five years now. Oh my god, like not yet.

Speaker 1 I was like, I cannot do it this year, I cannot do it this year, I cannot do it this year.

Speaker 1 I was like, I need to muster up some more courage, and we finally went for uh this year's like Hell Week series, and like it was genuinely terrifying, like literally walking around next to hundreds of bones that you know used to be people and like just like us and it's just really eerie feelings and not only that like our investigations were like absolutely horrifying oh my gosh got little crazy we like tried to record evps um basically just sound recordings you play it back and sometimes there's you know recordings of things that you can't hear with a human ear and there was literal guttural screams back at us like with and then sometimes like saying full sentences back to us and we're like what is going on here like i've never heard anything like it uh it was genuinely terrifying and like that place didn't just have paranormal danger but obviously it was like illegal to go down there

Speaker 1 and then there's these uh people that like live down there called catophiles and they'll like steal your map and your flashlight yes i am so obsessed with that idea did you come into contact with anybody we ran into one shut up what's what's really scary is um you know we went down there a couple with a couple buddies and they're like we're not going to tell you certain things that we know about this place until afterwards, just for the sake of your mind.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 So we leave and he goes, okay, well, I didn't want to say this, but I know a guy who recently went down there and got his

Speaker 1 backpack, his food, his water, everything stolen from him.

Speaker 1 And like, he got left deep in the catacombs by a guide, purely just like, I just want to rob the guy. And all he had was 10% left on his phone battery

Speaker 1 and then one one little flashlight. And he was down there for hours and hours and hours, just waiting, aimlessly walking around before someone luckily found him.
And he made it out alive.

Speaker 1 But like, he could have easily died.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. And that was just another random YouTube explorer that just went down there.
I was like, I want to go film a video just like we did. And his guide left him? Is that what you're saying?

Speaker 1 Like, it wasn't.

Speaker 1 The videos on YouTube.

Speaker 1 Shout out Nightscape, I believe his name was. Yeah.
Oh, I have to see this.

Speaker 1 You have to watch it. It's like

Speaker 1 probably one of the scariest YouTube videos I've ever seen because it's so real. Yeah.
And like, he's by himself completely. No food, no water.

Speaker 1 And he needed, he was like from England, so he didn't know, like, obviously, like, the French language or anything either. He can't really communicate.
Yeah. So scary.
I would just sob.

Speaker 1 I think I would just

Speaker 1 sit down. Like, I would just sit down and cry.
And like, if

Speaker 1 your light goes out, it is. pitch black.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. It's like, I mean, it's like not only are you in a labyrinth and you have no idea what's going on, it's pitch black.
So

Speaker 1 you literally can't see anything. And it's like a pitch black you can't conceive of.
Oh, it's like we don't exist in that pitch black. Uh-uh.

Speaker 1 Like, you could have your finger right next to your eyeball and you could not see that. Not even like sensitive face.
And so that's horrible.

Speaker 1 Claustrophobia, then like wading through waters that go up to your chest and stuff that's freezing cold. Did you guys have to wade through water? Yeah.
Wow. So we were completely soaked.

Speaker 1 We had to, like, it's so funny. You basically, like, in public in a busy street, like, climb through a manhole.
Yeah, and you're just like out of there.

Speaker 1 It's like when we were like making our escape, finally, we were like crawling out there, like completely dirty, drenched, like soaked, and people were like looking at us like, oh my God.

Speaker 1 They probably see it all the time. There's like people coming out of manholes, like all fucked up.

Speaker 1 Exactly. Yeah, that's not crazy.
Like an army crawl, like on our hands and knees and stuff like that for probably a football field or more.

Speaker 1 Like at certain times, just to get from one cave to the other. Was it like tight? Yeah.
Like you had to to push. You essentially cave dove.
Yeah, basically. You had to push your backpack.

Speaker 1 Is that what's called?

Speaker 1 It's called Splunking. What's that movie?

Speaker 1 The Descent? The Descent. Have you ever seen that?

Speaker 1 Where they go like cave dive? Oh, you gotta watch the battle. I don't like those movies.
That's so scary.

Speaker 1 They are so scary. There is a movie based on Paris Catacombs as episode below.
So below. I cover that on the screen.
Oh, my God. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Horrifying. I watched that on the plane going to

Speaker 1 Paris Catacombs. I was getting to the moon.

Speaker 1 I was like,

Speaker 1 I was just like, I want to be fully immersed.

Speaker 1 And you were, I bet. It was not blind.

Speaker 1 I was like, no, thank you. I'm just going to take a nap.

Speaker 1 I want to blind to disassociate real quick. Do you have a favorite?

Speaker 1 There's so many like cool spots that we've been to. We've been all like around the world doing this stuff.
So there's like really cool locations, like castles and stuff.

Speaker 1 But in terms of like just one that comes to mind is, have you guys been to Villisca? No. Did you talk about Villisca? I, that is,

Speaker 1 yeah, that's like my bucket list. Initially, I said that I wouldn't go, but I think now that we're getting more into it, I would.
Yeah. I'm really, I'm dipping more into these things.

Speaker 1 Like, I agreed I'll do like a Ouija board now and stuff. Whoa.

Speaker 1 That's

Speaker 1 it.

Speaker 1 We covered Villisca. Okay.
Like the case. So you know the story behind it.

Speaker 1 I kid you not, like out of all of the haunted places that we've been personally, that one, talking about feeling, when I walked in there, you can feel how

Speaker 1 evil and heavy it is because it involved a lot of children and stuff like a lot of messed up things happened in that house and like what was it eight people you guys

Speaker 1 yeah it's been a while since we covered it but I'm I think you're right yeah it's a still quality like blood on the ceiling and stuff right yeah and the axe

Speaker 1 yeah because you use like the blunt side to the murder so you can see like the chops in the ceiling and what's interesting like what's what makes it scary is it's like uh just in a random neighborhood so it looks like a just a normal little community a tiny little neighborhood next to a bunch of other houses but then you walk in it's like a different world yeah it feels so

Speaker 1 dark I feel like the energy I want to go after you guys have gnarly try it I know we have to all right so Obviously, you guys have worked with like a lot of psychics and mediums throughout your endeavors.

Speaker 1 So we wanted to tell you some of the most wild techniques that we found from throughout the years. Okay.
Okay. So just a couple of like interesting, like Victorian era seances.
Oh nice. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 They used to do some weird stuff.

Speaker 1 And they were like diabolical.

Speaker 1 There was a couple that were like, you guys are assholes. Really? Okay.
So we're talking about some like scam artist type of stuff. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Bake time.

Speaker 1 So I'm going to start with possibly the craziest one that we saw. Yes.
The ectoplasm of it all. So mediums in the early 1900s.

Speaker 1 The ectoplasm. So mediums in the early 1900s said basically when ectoplasm started leaking, that was the the signal that they had tapped into the spirit world.

Speaker 1 That's how you knew, like, shit was going down, you know? Yeah, damn, that happens to us all the time.

Speaker 1 Always saying ectoplasm.

Speaker 1 Just all kinds of goo.

Speaker 1 So it would sometimes include a gauzy substance leaking from all kinds of places on the medium: their ears, their mouth, their nose, their eyes,

Speaker 1 and apparently sometimes even their genitalia.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And I have a picture of that.
It's safe for work, but kind of.

Speaker 1 Oh, what the

Speaker 1 wait,

Speaker 1 that's a lot.

Speaker 1 That's a lot.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Damn.

Speaker 1 Has that ever happened to you?

Speaker 1 Have you experienced time? I had some goo coming out of my pants. It almost felt almost

Speaker 1 too. It was crazy.
Almost that much. We were wild.
It was wild.

Speaker 1 You're like, damn, the ghosts are here. Yeah.
Please stop. Something is happening.
Please stop it would not stop

Speaker 1 so eventually when this like really got popular the term ectoplasm was coined i don't know what the fuck they were calling it before oh god spirit god only knows but uh yeah that term was coined by french uh physiologist and uh psychical researcher charles richer

Speaker 1 so as soon as the white viscous fluid started leaking from wherever it did that's when you knew that the spirits were in town i guess what the medium said the purpose of the fluid was during the seances was that it would turn into like the face of a person trying to be contacted from the other side.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it would see face in the goo. They'd see faces in the goofy face and we'll get into it.
They really

Speaker 1 investigated the goo. Sometimes the goo would be like a limb, like it would, it would look like an arm, like a disembodied arm.

Speaker 1 Or sometimes it could be like a full-body figure. Oh.

Speaker 1 Of the goo. That is a lot of goo.

Speaker 1 A lot of goo. I did not know this much ectoplasm existed.
I didn't either. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So now the interesting thing about this, though, is that apparently the mediums would tell you this would only work in the dark. The lights could not be on.

Speaker 1 And you could not get close to them while this was happening.

Speaker 1 Can't see. And if you turned on the light, they were like, oh, it's just going to disintegrate.
So like, we got to keep it super dark up in here. So Harry Houdini was a huge skeptic of this practice.

Speaker 1 And he called out mediums and basically how they got to getting the ectoplasm to come out. He said they were swallowing all kinds of things like cotton mixed with goose grease,

Speaker 1 cloth, gauze, muslin, and sometimes sheep's lungs. What? What? They would like mix all this shit together.
Like it makes me think of just like paper-mache. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But they would ingest it or they'd like stick it in their ears and they'd have like wires that they could pull like.

Speaker 1 obviously without showing whoever they were reading and that's when it would start to flow. I don't know about how they like how that picture came to be.
Imagine being that committed to the bit. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like you are that committed to the scam. Yeah.
That you're willing to swallow chiffon and cheap. Put it in places.
Yeah. Or put it in places.
Put it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And just allow it to allow it to like, I'm not committed to that bit. No.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because they would essentially just like make themselves sick in the cases where it came out of their mouth. They'd just like throw up sheep on it.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Oh.

Speaker 1 So one of the mediums who was famous for this was Marth Barad.

Speaker 1 She was also known as Eva C or Eva Carriere.

Speaker 1 She was actually said to be the first person to introduce this practice. And sometimes she would even include like little pictures of people

Speaker 1 so that when it started leaking out, people would look at the photos and be like, oh my God, that's my grandma.

Speaker 1 Oh my God, that's my cousin Beth who died like seven years ago. What?

Speaker 1 But she eventually got exposed when people realized that the photos were of celebrities from magazines and she would cut them out and like disguise them somehow. What?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Eventually, somebody during a seance was like, wait a second, this is like a king from like another country. This is not my grandpa.
Whoa. And she got called out.

Speaker 1 Wait, so you're saying they would like eat the paper and then like regurgitate it?

Speaker 1 Yeah, so she would basically, she used, I guess, sheep's lungs mixed with like other stuff like muslin and that kind of thing. And she would like crinkle up pictures into it.

Speaker 1 So then when they would, you know, go through the goo, they would see the pictures.

Speaker 1 oh yeah now was she someone who like puked it out or did she like piss it out was she one of which one so i think she was just

Speaker 1 yeah this isn't her here's another one so some people were puking oh god ew i hate it yeah i think she did all kinds of things with erectoplasm i think she was one of the uh

Speaker 1 these people oh

Speaker 1 as well okay i think she it was just coming out of everyone's

Speaker 1 like somebody peeing out your grandma yeah that's insane insane. Or what you think is your grandma.
And then you're like, the king of igloo.

Speaker 1 That's a man.

Speaker 1 That's a man.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 that was our girl. That's crazy.
Wow. Eva.
So that's ectoplasm. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So funny. We were doing this investigation in Australia at a prison.
And then, like, we did this whole investigation. Three o'clock in the morning.
The owner walks in.

Speaker 1 He goes, You guys want to see something cool?

Speaker 1 Like, hell yeah.

Speaker 1 For sure. Sure.

Speaker 1 And he goes, if you don't tell anybody, I have ectoplasm. You know, he's like, oh,

Speaker 1 this is amazing. We're like,

Speaker 1 huh?

Speaker 1 I have never heard of someone having ectoplasm. He's like, I keep it in a jar.
Of course.

Speaker 1 Holy shit. You're a jar of liquid, I have to see.
Like, we got to do this. We had a couple other buddies and so 4 a.m.
Walk into this guy's like back office and he pulls out this jar of

Speaker 1 clear looking weird goo liquid and it's in this like you know mason jar and he's like I've been keeping this for ages

Speaker 1 where did you get this I have a lot of follow-up questions

Speaker 1 like I don't know if I want to know but like also

Speaker 1 what

Speaker 1 I've never we've we've seen a lot of interesting characters but we've never had someone present their

Speaker 1 ectoplasm ectoplasm in a jar and you know I keep this special just to show people did he say where he found it I said it was like he found the goo on some table.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like after just like the seance stories, like after like a big like investigation, like there was this goo that appeared.

Speaker 1 And he just said, you know what,

Speaker 1 some of this goo and throw it out. He got on the spatula and just got it to the jar.
No, the vibe I get from him is just straight hands.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he didn't even.

Speaker 1 Give me that goo. Yeah.
So you held it? Well, I tried, I like reached for it. The jar, though.
Yeah, and he was like,

Speaker 1 you can't touch my goo. And I was like, I'm so sorry.

Speaker 1 I'm so sorry. You can look, but no touch.

Speaker 1 yes sir

Speaker 1 how do you leave that conversation we were like thanks

Speaker 1 we're gonna go uh do our last investigation yeah that was so bizarre wow it was exactly the color that you would imagine oh

Speaker 1 to be at least he presented it in a jar and didn't exactly present it in

Speaker 1 he didn't just like lift it though yeah or like leak it out of their nose or something exactly yeah that's wild

Speaker 1 also i'm like now hearing him say that in an Australian accent in my head. Oh, I didn't even think of that.

Speaker 1 You want to see my goo? That was a little British accent. Don't touch my goo, please.

Speaker 1 You're going to get roasted for our Australian accent.

Speaker 1 Sorry.

Speaker 1 I want to see Ecto. No, I don't.
Yeah, I changed my mind. I kind of do.
I hear about it. I just don't want to experience it happening, but I'd see that guy's jar of ectoplasm.

Speaker 1 I'd look at that guy's garage.

Speaker 1 I'd be like, please, let me see. Damn.
Well,

Speaker 1 Mine are not nearly as like graphic, wild as that.

Speaker 1 So I was just going to talk about spirit trumpets,

Speaker 1 which just seemed to me like silly. They were like these little cone-shaped trumpet things.
They would be like cardboard or metal. And they used it.

Speaker 1 It just made me think of those cartoons where they would put like a giant horn to their ear. And they would put a horn to their ear and say that they were like hearing the spirits talk to them.

Speaker 1 And then they would use the horn to like distort their voice and pretend that the spirit was speaking through them. Oh.
And sometimes they would levitate it with like wires and shit.

Speaker 1 And if it was an audience, they would have it levitate over to the person that was getting the message.

Speaker 1 So they would just like, and it would be like little kids sometimes under a table who were like just trolling. At their night job.
Yeah, just like, you know, moonlighting after school.

Speaker 1 And they would just have it float over to the person that the message was for. And like, it would just come plop by your ear.
That's pretty high tech. That's pretty high.

Speaker 1 I kind of want to see that. But it had to to be dark so you can see like always.

Speaker 1 Yeah. When you're scamming, it's dark.
Always. For sure.
Yeah. Always.

Speaker 1 So there's that one that was just silly to me that I was like, I just pictured this little like trumpet floating through the air and it's like, you got a message.

Speaker 1 And then one that was diabolically evil to me, and they did it a lot, was sometimes they would embed, they would like make the candles themselves and they would put

Speaker 1 if they were doing a reading for like specific people, they would put the perfume or cologne of the person's loved one in the candle wax.

Speaker 1 So when they burned the candle, they would smell the cologne or perfume and they would think that the person was there. That's a crime.
And I was like,

Speaker 1 what? That's another level. So messy.
Also, how do they know the person's perfume? That's the thing. I don't know if they would do like a.
There was only three back then.

Speaker 1 You know, like, maybe that was it. Luck of the draw, I guess.
Yeah, they didn't have to worry about like the whole perfume center. Yeah.
Sephora.

Speaker 1 I guess there was like Chanel to worry about, but some oil.

Speaker 1 You know,

Speaker 1 Yeah, just like a flower. That is pretty cool stuff.

Speaker 1 Can you imagine? And they'd like bring it up. Like they'd be like, oh, I smell something.
And the person would be like, that's my husband's cologne. Oh, that's

Speaker 1 like, well, he has to be here. And I'm like, you have to be the nastiest.
person

Speaker 1 to go with that. Yeah.
I won't commit to the bit enough to piss out ectoplasm and I will not commit to that bit either. I'm glad that you're not willing to piss out ectoplasm.

Speaker 1 No, that's a good quality. I will not.
I stand. This is, I'm standing on business right now.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Hold it in a jar, but

Speaker 1 for sure. Yeah, but I will not produce it.
Yeah. We were just talking about that, how like it is so like fucked up to like think there are people that

Speaker 1 make money on telling you about your dead loved ones when they have absolutely no idea. Yeah, yeah, that is fucked up.
Like Sylvia Brown.

Speaker 1 Because it's like, how do you, how do you just go to sleep after that? Yeah.

Speaker 1 You know, because you know you're lying. Yeah, exactly.
How do you, how do you live with yourself? Or do you think they get to the point where they think they're onto something?

Speaker 1 I think that happens to a lot of people. Yeah, yeah, definitely.

Speaker 1 I think they might know that they're like deceiving potentially, but they're also like helping people out.

Speaker 1 Like they probably justify it in their head by being like, oh, well, it's making them feel better to get these answers when in reality, they're just lying to you.

Speaker 1 They're just muddying the water. Yeah.
That's how they justify it. Yeah, I think that makes sense.
I've been getting, I'm like on a Sylvia Brown kick right now.

Speaker 1 I've been getting them on my TikTok for some, I don't know where they came from. I don't know how this happened.
Now you're gonna get more because we're talking. Oh, I already am.

Speaker 1 I'm on like Sylvia Brown talk all of a sudden. It's like people just started like, she was like this psychic from, she used to be on all these talk shows.
Like she was always on like Montel Williams.

Speaker 1 Or like Sally Jesse Raffae. Like, you know, those kind of daytime talk shows.

Speaker 1 And she would go on there and she would like, but she would help with like investigations and like, or she wouldn't help with investigations. She would give her input.
She was helping.

Speaker 1 And she would like talk to like family members of people who were missing or murdered and like give them information.

Speaker 1 And there was a couple of times that she was so wildly wrong that it was like crazy.

Speaker 1 Like one, there's a clip of her and it's one lady talking about her husband or her boyfriend or fiancé, I forget which one. And she was like, he died and, you know, I just like, I need some closure.

Speaker 1 I need to know where he is. We were never able to get his body.
And she doesn't tell her anything else. And Sylvia Brown looks at her and says, well, that's because he's in the water.

Speaker 1 And she was like, and she loves telling people that. Oh, yeah, she loves that.
She'll throw you in the water no matter what. But she says, she's like, water, honey.

Speaker 1 And so she's like, honey, he's in the water. And you can see the lady be like, that's not what? And she goes, well, it was 9-11 and he was a firefighter on 9-11.
So like, so how do you get in there?

Speaker 1 And you can see Sylvia Brown be like, she said, damn, I go to the bottom. Yeah, I don't know.
He's in the water. Like, she just commits to it, but you can see it.
She's like, fuck.

Speaker 1 Like, she's like, I fuck that up. But she just commits.
And you can see the lady's like, okay. And just sits down and I was like, you asshole.
Yeah, that's so funny.

Speaker 1 Like, that's the throw that their loved ones in the water to I'm like the worst kind of outcome. She said that to another parent of a case that we covered.

Speaker 1 And wasn't the girl like still alive and being held captive? I think so. She's done it a couple of times.
Yeah. Like once the water trick doesn't pan up for you one time, you think you'd move on.

Speaker 1 Once you fail at it like that,

Speaker 1 you need to retire the water. Like don't don't use that one again.
Yeah. After you hear that.
Because when she said it was 9-11 when he died and he was a firefighter, I was like, what?

Speaker 1 How do you fuck that up so bad? Sylvia, honey. Zolbia, I'm telling you, though, on Sylvia Brown TikTok.
I'm about to say that. You'll get all these awful clips.
That actually would be

Speaker 1 so cool to just see a compilation of all the mediums just failing, horribly, just catching them in the act. And they're like, oh, God.
Yep. Because you can see it on there.

Speaker 1 Like, you can see the panic set in for like a second. And then she recovers so fast and just commits.

Speaker 1 That's crazy.

Speaker 1 It's so personal. That's the thing.
That's the thing. Yeah.
I would die. Like, I would just start crying.
I would never be able to do that. I couldn't deceive someone like that.

Speaker 1 No naming names, but have you ever worked with a medium and been like, I don't know?

Speaker 1 There's definitely a lot of like interesting characters. Yeah.
I mean, we've been doing this for years. That's the thing.
There's a lot of people that like, you're like. Hmm.

Speaker 1 There's like no way that that can be correct. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So definitely a couple for sure.
But then on the flip side, have you had things be like, holy shit.

Speaker 1 1,000%.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean,

Speaker 1 I was going to say,

Speaker 1 but yeah, 1,000%. Yeah.
So it's like, yeah, I believe in some, and then I think some are scam artists. That's what I think.
That's pretty much what I think, too. I do think people have that ability.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And like or GMs, especially, I feel like.
But I think there's a lot of people who are just kind of looking for the money. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I think I don't like 90%.

Speaker 1 Maybe 80, 85% are fake. Really? And then there's

Speaker 1 that idea for real. Because I think most people do it for the money.

Speaker 1 And I think the people that are out there that are doing it genuinely to help people, and you can tell that they're either not taking it for the money or like it's not their main gig, it's just like a side thing that they do.

Speaker 1 I think those people are a lot more believable. Yeah.
Other people that are doing it for research and stuff like that, I think that's much more believable.

Speaker 1 But like all the little mom and pop shops that are like a psychic, 50% off today. Yeah, I'm okay.

Speaker 1 I'm like, are you right? You're going to make ends meet, actually. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So it's, it's much different. I've definitely been to psychics and had them tell me things.
And I've been like, what? Yeah. That's not accurate at all.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But then on the flip side, I've been to psychics and they've like predicted things in my life that have happened. And I've been like, holy shit.
Yeah. Oh, you know?

Speaker 1 When we first started this, I was like, yeah, sure. Someone can tell the future.
But now I'm like, oh, wait, someone can probably tell the future. Oh, shit.
What's going on here?

Speaker 1 This is insane.

Speaker 1 But I heard someone describe it as like,

Speaker 1 it's just another one of the human senses.

Speaker 1 and some people have more dormant than others just like some people have perfect pitch you know it's like very rare but humans can't have that and then it's like people do it it happens you know it's just one of these things that like you know a very select few people have that ability to see certain things or frequencies that others can't yeah and so with that logic i was like oh that kind of makes sense like yeah the idea of something like a perfect pitch or like you know the people that are like the fastest people in the world or something It's like they're people with superhuman type of talents.

Speaker 1 And it isn't too far-fetched to believe that some talents can help you see things or hear things that are not necessarily accessible to everybody. Yeah, definitely.

Speaker 1 Each medium, too, has like a different sort of skill that we've found. It seems like.
So like we've met some that are only able to see. figures or people, whatever.

Speaker 1 But then there's some that like can feel it. There's some that use like the Claromancy and stuff that use use like the bone throwing.
Right. So cool.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Just a lot of different techniques to contact or see the afterlife. It's interesting.
It is interesting.

Speaker 1 I feel like the ones who do, like, and this is just me, when they do like a big audience of people,

Speaker 1 those are the ones that I'm like, I don't buy it. I hate it.
I do not buy it. I don't know if I can buy the stage and stuff.
Yeah. I just can't buy it.
My girl, Teresa Caputo.

Speaker 1 Oh, you believe her? She did Long Island, right? She's a Long Island medium. I don't know.

Speaker 1 I do believe her.

Speaker 1 I don't want to.

Speaker 1 I believe her, period. Yeah.
I believe her. Okay.
Yeah. I just love her.
I'm skeptical of those. I've seen her show when I was like little.
I loved it.

Speaker 1 I loved the show. I hope she's real.
I know. I do too.
It's just the audience, the big audience ones.

Speaker 1 I'm like, it's hard when you see like shows of like mentalists or like illusionists that like you think, whoa,

Speaker 1 how in the world did they know that? But then it's just like, you know, a trick that they've done a hundred thousand times. Yeah, like sleight of hand or that's the thing.

Speaker 1 Some quick thing that we don't see.

Speaker 1 And when you really break it down sometimes when they do like the big audience things, when you break down how they get to the answer, it's like so clear how they get there that you're like, like in the moment, you don't think that.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
Like people give information and they don't realize they are. That's very true.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 People are really good at doing it. They're like on here and stuff like that.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I love seeing the people who like won't give information though and the psychic is actually for real and they're like, I get it on basically nothing. Yeah.
Yeah, you are one of those people.

Speaker 1 I always always go whenever we go to a psychic or any tarot card, I'd give nothing. She's literally like, I would just sit there and

Speaker 1 see. I take my rings off, I won't like even show that I'm there.
I'm like, nothing. They're like, Does that make sense? And she's like, I'm like, maybe.

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 1 I'm like, you tell me.

Speaker 1 I don't know. Keep going.
You know better than I do. Meanwhile, I'm like, yes.
And when my husband said that, and my dog from four years ago,

Speaker 1 we lived here.

Speaker 1 I start crying. I'm like, that's so, yeah.

Speaker 1 She's like, like, I'm onto something.

Speaker 1 Okay. So we're going to, we'll move on to, we'll do a little game.
Hell yeah.

Speaker 1 We love games. We'd love to do a would you rather.
Okay. Yeah.
Yeah. We're going to start off with that.
So are you guys participating or is it just us?

Speaker 1 We always participate. Yeah.
Okay, cool, cool. Yeah.
Um, all right. So would you rather let a Ouija board spirit possess your right hand for 24 hours? Or you both

Speaker 1 wait a second. That's so specific.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 Or would you rather let Zach Vagins narrate a few months of your life in a dramatic voiceover? Oh, that's a dream come true.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was the

Speaker 1 CV narration. We love Zach Vagans.
He's the king of paranormal.

Speaker 1 If he was like, now you're going to go downstairs and eat some cereal, I would actually

Speaker 1 be so happy. He can make a literally like a puppy terrifying.
So it's actually so true.

Speaker 1 His narration is you know his narrations are like top tier they are because they're crazy they're intense it would be like a slow narration i'd feel like he's just like now we're going to the car nurse come on you're like come on i have to go drive me a little crazy uh i feel like i mean having someone narrate my life would drive me insane i was gonna say i kind of i would think it's hilarious for like maybe a couple of hours like i'd be like this is so fun i wouldn't even make it a couple hours i think hour three i'd be like you can fucking leave now.

Speaker 1 Like, yeah, I need a learn time. Yeah, that's true.
But I also don't want my hand possessed for 24 hours. You know, if you would kill somebody.
That's the thing, dude. It's like idle hands.

Speaker 1 I didn't think of that.

Speaker 1 Oh, wow. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
It could be, okay, your right hand can do a lot.

Speaker 1 It's true.

Speaker 1 Your right hand can do a lot, but also Zach Bagan made it in your life for a few months or 24 hours. Months of 20 days.

Speaker 1 Months could be kind of crazy.

Speaker 1 That's true. So you could fix this if you've ever seen the movie Idol Hands.
You can at least try to fix this. So if it's 24 hours,

Speaker 1 you could lock yourself in a room. Ooh,

Speaker 1 you could maybe like handcuff your hands. You could handcuff your hands.

Speaker 1 And I would just watch some motherfucking juicy thing. Oh, that's a good idea.
And your hands are just like. Yeah, your hands just go drain over here.
Let's go.

Speaker 1 Letting it do its thing. I'm doing that.
Yeah, that's smart. Okay.
I'm changing. You're changing.
Yeah. You're changing.

Speaker 1 Just because the length of time stick is.

Speaker 1 No, I'm not being a theorist.

Speaker 1 I would use that time to record a documentary about my life

Speaker 1 pre-narrated, you know? That's pretty smart.

Speaker 1 There you go. Yeah, you've already got the narration down.

Speaker 1 All right. So next, would you rather accidentally summon a Victorian ghost who refuses to leave until you let them co-host a vlog?

Speaker 1 Or would you summon a demon who only communicates through Sam and Colby fan edits on TikTok?

Speaker 1 I love how specific these are. Who came up with them?

Speaker 1 He collected outside his own.

Speaker 1 Hilarious. We try to tailor them to our guests, as you can see.
Oh, man. I feel like we are being communicated by Sam and Colby edits on TikTok all the time.

Speaker 1 I mean, that's so funny. Like, I want to choose that one because it's so funny, but like, practicality, I'd probably be like the first one, honestly.
Yeah. Because, like, think about it.

Speaker 1 If you had a ghost like co-co-vlog, like, that's so viral. You're breaking out.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 You also essentially already do that like they're kind of like background stars in your videos you know exactly but like imagine we're like hey guys Sam and Colby like what's up like we're here with and he's like Paul and this is like invisible

Speaker 1 I actually love that

Speaker 1 I get that what are you doing Sam yeah I think to your point the the viral vlog is there you know yeah plus like you know I feel like a ghost could

Speaker 1 get other ghosts to get active you know

Speaker 1 true. He like summons the other ones.
Yeah, exactly. The ghost would probably be the best ghost hunter out there.
Probably hunt what you know. Because he'd be like, you're doing this all wrong.

Speaker 1 Let me tell you how to do this. Like, oh, he's like, this is what we respond to.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. He's working with the perfect translator, you know? Yeah.
Or is he like us where he's like, what was that?

Speaker 1 Imagine

Speaker 1 the ghost is like scared. Did you see that? He's freaked out by you.
He's like, why are you here? Like, what's going on? He's like, oh my God, it's freezing in here. Sadly.

Speaker 1 I thought that was you. That's awesome.
All right. I think I would want to, I would want to have a third voice on the pod.
That's a good one. Yeah.
Yeah, for sure. Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 I mean, we do, Nicholas. Oh, we do.
Yeah. When we do our listener tale episodes, we do ghost tube and there's a ghost, Nicholas, who like fucks with us while we record them.

Speaker 1 And he just like has things to say about the listener.

Speaker 1 He doesn't like me.

Speaker 1 We're not best friends forever. No, he loves you.
Yeah. Running theme in our life, actually.

Speaker 1 Wow. Yeah.
Yeah. I don't know what I did.

Speaker 1 I I don't know what I did either. So I don't know why.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Beef with Nicholas. All right.
Beef with Nicholas big time. We've been friends like the last couple.

Speaker 1 We've been amicable the last couple of times. Dead men love me, apparently.

Speaker 1 Dead men have a thing for you. I don't know what that's about.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 We'll go with it. All right.
Would you rather use a possessed doll as your permanent cameraman or have to share your bed with a ghost who won't stop whispering, smash that subscribe button until dawn?

Speaker 1 Until dawn? Until dawn. All night.

Speaker 1 Oh, man. I would film that.

Speaker 1 That's so funny. These are so unique.
These are amazing. I've never heard any of these.

Speaker 1 Probably smash the subscribe. Like, that's only like a 12-hour thing.
Yeah. And then you don't have to say it for a whole day.
Yeah. They say it for you.

Speaker 1 But you're sharing your bed with them. And you're trying to sleep.
True. Which you've experienced.
I have experienced that. Yeah.
Full circle moment.

Speaker 1 I just hear them and you're like, smash that subscribe.

Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 1 yeah, but like, imagine giving like a camera to like a haunted doll. Like, are they even going to be able to hold it up?

Speaker 1 That's a shaky cam moment. Exactly.
Are they going to throw it at your head? Yeah. And then you're getting the double chin angle all the time.
Yeah, because they're kind of short.

Speaker 1 They're never going to give you good lighting. True.
Not the good angle.

Speaker 1 True. Would be sick if the possessed doll was like a cast member and like just like hanging out with us all the time, but the camera.
You turned it on himself.

Speaker 1 Not cool. Is Annabelle like running next to you or whatever?

Speaker 1 So, yeah. I mean, imagine like it was me, you, and little Annabelle.
and just annabelle with the camera yeah that is a really bad angle from down there yeah

Speaker 1 she's their beacam you know like oh yeah she's like the bee cam we're like annabelle just go film

Speaker 1 even outside shots

Speaker 1 she gets pissed

Speaker 1 go take our thumbnails she's like oh dang it

Speaker 1 See, we wouldn't have to really worry about that. Yeah, we really don't.
We could have a possessed doll be our camera person only for one episode a month. Yes.

Speaker 1 Yeah, in guest episodes. We'll be like, this This is just our possessed doll, we don't buy them without that, yeah.

Speaker 1 But I already have my kids are already jumping in my bed, I don't need a ghost in there as well. Yeah, I'm not too hot, I'm cranky in the nighttime, so

Speaker 1 I don't want to deal with that. Yeah, you'd punch the ghost, I would absolutely punch the ghost.
My husband says, whenever he wakes me up, that I like go into a fight position.

Speaker 1 How do you wake up like that? When he woke me up yesterday, he was like, Are you okay? Are you dead?

Speaker 1 4 p.m.

Speaker 1 4 p.m. I'm ready to fight.

Speaker 1 I just wake up angry. I just wake up like

Speaker 1 every time. I do that thing too.
Like, I'll be ready for motherhood when it comes because I go,

Speaker 1 and I wake up. You have to do that.
Oh, my God. That's like the mom thing that you have to do.
My kids tell me all the time, they're like, you sound like you're dying.

Speaker 1 Because they'll be like, mama. And I'm like, what?

Speaker 1 I'm like, it's fine. Drew's always like, water or do that.
I'm like, I don't know. I'm not like trying to.
You're getting ready.

Speaker 1 Getting ready to terrify your children in the middle of the night. Yeah, I'm ready.

Speaker 1 Let's go uh actually yeah i would definitely not have the ghost in my bed no actually

Speaker 1 it would be much more useful for you yeah um so mine is would you rather accidentally marry a ghost through a botched seance wedding ritual like oops i married one of these whoa

Speaker 1 or have a poltergeist that insists on being your chaotic third roommate and constantly messes with your editing files. Oh,

Speaker 1 you're either getting married in a botched seance. To a ghost.
To a ghost. Does that mean 50% of our assets are going to this ghost? Well, you maybe can sign a pre-nup.
Unless you do the

Speaker 1 post-nut. A post-nup.
You can do a post-nup. Yeah.
That is a post-nup. A pre-nup, but after the fact.

Speaker 1 I have no idea.

Speaker 1 Because this poltergeist is fucking up your editing. Oh, like you get to the point where you're happy with the video, and he's like, how about I add a laugh track?

Speaker 1 That is the literal worst fear of my life. Yeah.
Yeah. You're going to have like

Speaker 1 a who's to say, even if you you accidentally marry this ghost, you don't fall in love. Oh, that's beautiful.
That's true. I like the optimism there.
You know, people are marrying everything now.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you know, yeah. People get married to like cars and shit.

Speaker 1 You can marry yourself. Why not marry ghosts? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Dope. I'm trying to think, though, it would be a really hard conversation with our girlfriends, you know, like just being like, hey,

Speaker 1 you know, I feel like it was an accident. Like, hey, we got to talk about an open relationship here.
Married. What do you think about sister wife life? Yeah.
Exactly. With a ghost.

Speaker 1 Can we introduce a third?

Speaker 1 i did

Speaker 1 by accident my bad and how the ghost has to be it was a wild weekend guys

Speaker 1 it's kind of like a corpse prime thing actually it is that's actually exactly what it is very much that can we ask a question like how long are you roommates with this poltergeist trickster ghost through editing season yeah

Speaker 1 Once you're done editing. The rest of your editing career,

Speaker 1 you just get screw-up files of ruined. Like he pops in.
He's your roommate, so I guess you could, like, buy him out of the lease, but I don't know. It'll be that easy for you.

Speaker 1 He, like, deletes the most important investigation every video. He's like,

Speaker 1 that's the thing. That's what you're, that's what you're facing.
He adds, like, old-timey car horn sounds in the middle of your videos.

Speaker 1 Just like, boop, boop, boop, boop, boy, almost every now and again.

Speaker 1 I feel like apparently I already have, you know, extra ghostly friends around all the time, so I wouldn't mind, you know, having one in the relationship too.

Speaker 1 honestly oh man I mean I would hope that when I get married it would be for life and so like I'm trying to break up

Speaker 1 I'm not divorcing even if it's a ghost

Speaker 1 so I think I might choose the the roommate honestly yeah because I don't know if I'm gonna be like editing until I'm like dead you know what I'm saying so like that's honorable you just deal with it for a while yeah

Speaker 1 I think marriage is more important at the end of the day yeah that's true that's beautiful I respect that. I was

Speaker 1 like, Sam's like, okay. Optimism of, you know, maybe calling him.

Speaker 1 They were both beautiful answers in different ways. I like them both.

Speaker 1 Real nice. I don't want another husband.
No, God,

Speaker 1 I like mine. I like mine as well.
But I don't want anymore.

Speaker 1 I don't edit, so. Never have, never will.
I know it would be Mikey who would really be. I know.
Well, back in the day, you used to edit. I know, I used to edit.
I've never touched that shit.

Speaker 1 And I know how annoying that would be to have somebody touching it. I know.

Speaker 1 Now it would just be Mikey's problem.

Speaker 1 Mikey's going with poltergeist.

Speaker 1 Poltergeist. Poltergeist will live with Mikey in days.

Speaker 1 But they're a butt. Oh, okay.
So they're Mikey's roommate? Yeah, now they're Mikey's. Oh, God.
Wow. That's pretty easy.
Sorry, Mikey.

Speaker 1 Off camera, Mikey's like, fuck you guys.

Speaker 1 Damn. Yeah, because I'm not getting married during the ritual.
No. It's a no for me.
No, no, no. No.
Accidentally or intentionally. No.
All right, so we're going with poltergeist. Sorry, Mikey.

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Speaker 1 So the next one is, this one's gonna be hard, I think.

Speaker 1 Okay. Would you rather have Bloody Mary show up every time you say subscribe

Speaker 1 or

Speaker 1 have a demon gently bite you every time you plug merch.

Speaker 1 Just

Speaker 1 a little love bite every time.

Speaker 1 Do we say subscribe or do we plug merch more? Oh, I think we plug merch more than we asked for subscribes.

Speaker 1 That's true. You don't need as many subscribes now.
You're like, well, I got 15 million.

Speaker 1 You know what? That's actually like, that's.

Speaker 1 I feel like, you know what? I'm not doing it for you. Whoa, yeah.
So I would probably say, oh, man, actually.

Speaker 1 But what do you want to have happen? Well, it's like, like, I'm trying to think about like how hard is it? So, Bloody Mary's just going to show up. I don't know what she's going to do.

Speaker 1 That's the other thing.

Speaker 1 She didn't let me know what she was going to do. She's just showing up.

Speaker 1 So, basically, like, are you into stalking women or

Speaker 1 demons

Speaker 1 who

Speaker 1 it's just a gentle bite?

Speaker 1 I feel like a gentle bite is like,

Speaker 1 at least you know what's coming. You know what I mean? It's not going to be hard.

Speaker 1 It's finishing myself with kind of nice. Like,

Speaker 1 it's not breaking skin we're just okay it's just like a little nibble and you're like oh yeah you're just like oh by the merch

Speaker 1 um yeah i would probably do that because what's bloody mary gonna do like that's you don't know i get the gentle bite then gentle bite you're gonna say gently bit by a demon i like the gentle bite too gentle bite gentle bite

Speaker 1 really cool if we started every video and we were just like hey like watch this and you like filmed a gentle bite

Speaker 1 like you were just like i explore merch and then you were like look at at that. Bam.
That's kind of like two birds, one stone, you know? Because then every viral clip is us plugging our merch.

Speaker 1 Exactly. Oh,

Speaker 1 that's so smart. That was actually a genius.
You're like, how to get ghost to bite.

Speaker 1 How to get the ghost to bite? Oh, shopexplore.com. That's fucking awesome.

Speaker 1 Gentle bite. That's so funny.
That's the important part. I would take gentle bite too, because I have a puppy, so I do have a demon biting me.
That's not that gently. Wow.
Yeah. You're all used to it.

Speaker 1 Oh, I'm so used to it. I have like scars and shit at this point dang you put up with it yeah i would say gentle bite i think i'm going with gentle bite because again it's a gentle bite yeah

Speaker 1 i want to i kind of part of me wants to see what bloody mary is up to that's a gamble i know i don't know

Speaker 1 i'm also with you a lot so can you not

Speaker 1 i was gonna say like how long she's showing up though you know it's like one bite he's like boom but the subscribe could be like visiting you in your sleep that's true

Speaker 1 yeah what if you like talk in your sleep and you're like, subscribe? She's like, there.

Speaker 1 Yeah, all my sleep talking is just.

Speaker 1 That's all we dream about.

Speaker 1 What's up, the merch?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think, you know what? I'm going with demon. Yeah.
Cause I feel, I don't think me and Bloody Mary would get along very well.

Speaker 1 Nah, she seems angry. Two strong gals.
She seems too angry. Yeah.
You know, I was so scared of Bloody Mary when I was little. I still remember the first time I did it.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I like screamed and ran downstairs. I got in trouble too, which was lame.

Speaker 1 Yeah, stupid. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I've never done it. You've never done it.
I've never, like, I've been around people who have done it, but I refuse to do it. Oh, it was like such a sleepover thing.

Speaker 1 We absolutely should. Let's do Bloody Mary in my bathroom.
Let's do it in a haunted location.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. Next haunted location.
Yeah, yeah. Like, don't break it.

Speaker 1 And then Bloody Mary. Let's go.

Speaker 1 Halloween ready somewhere in there.

Speaker 1 Itinerary Dough. Maybe at the Halloween party.

Speaker 1 That's smart. We invite Bloody Mary to our Halloween party.
Honestly, that's a draw. It is.

Speaker 1 Well, would you rather have a cursed Ouija board that will sometimes randomly spell out your most embarrassing memories for everybody?

Speaker 1 Embarrassing and like upsetting memories.

Speaker 1 Oh, and upsetting. Yeah, I added to it.
I added to it. Because this one's pretty wild.

Speaker 1 Or would you rather summon a Victorian child ghost, but that Victorian child ghost is only going to refer to you as Daddy Colby and Papa Sam.

Speaker 1 Awesome. Definitely the child ghost.

Speaker 1 That is

Speaker 1 sick. Like, definitely.
I'd just be like,

Speaker 1 I think it'd be just funny, honestly. Like, I'm not your dad.
I'm not your dad, but I'll be your dad.

Speaker 1 I guess I'll be your dad.

Speaker 1 I adopted a ghost child. There we go.

Speaker 1 That's so funny. That's so funny.
Yeah, I feel like that'd be awesome to have an extra

Speaker 1 character in the view. It's just like

Speaker 1 just your ghost kid.

Speaker 1 Papa Sam. Papa Sam.

Speaker 1 I think that's a valid choice. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Do you want another kid?

Speaker 1 Why not? Another ghost kid. Yeah.
I'll call you Mama Alina. Yeah, Mama Alina.
All right. Why not? We'll go with it.
Because I don't want

Speaker 1 my shit spelled out in a Ouija board.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I don't want that.
Because that means you have to do a Ouija board with other people. And so

Speaker 1 the people are just.

Speaker 1 Like, the ghost was lying, I swear. Yeah, that wasn't me here messing with Lam.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'd go ghost kid. Victorian ghost.
For sure. Yeah.
No one needs to know those secrets.

Speaker 1 No, those are locked up.

Speaker 1 All right. Would you rather spend a night alone in a pitch black asylum with a Ouija board?

Speaker 1 Or spend a night in your own bathroom, but every mirror shows a cursed clown version of yourself.

Speaker 1 Oh, God.

Speaker 1 I loved your reactions. I loved your reactions.

Speaker 1 And you're alone in the asylum with no one else, just you by yourself. That's with a Ouija board.
With a Ouija board.

Speaker 1 The first one sounds like an intense

Speaker 1 version of our normal YouTube videos. Yeah, it does.
And the second one sounds like I'm going to have nightmares forever. Like a few of them.
Yeah, for the rest of your life.

Speaker 1 Trauma, traumatic experience. So I'm just going to be aware of that.
It's just one version.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I would agree. The first one, you said one night.

Speaker 1 Both are one night. Oh, both are one night.
You just have to stay in the bathroom all night and just look at the birds. But like, your mirrors are just

Speaker 1 dude. I just feel like that's a great idea for a vid.
Yeah, it's just kind of like extreme salmon cold. Yeah.
There we go. Let's do solo challenges on the Ouija board.

Speaker 1 Like, we're turning all this into like a business idea. We're like, yeah, you're like, wait, I sat down.
Do you have a pad of paper? Yeah, let's do that. You're like, GM.

Speaker 1 I'll probably do the first, too. The Ouija board.
All right, yeah.

Speaker 1 I think I would do

Speaker 1 my own bathroom and probably just like not look at the mirrors. Oh, just close your eyes.
Blindfold yourself and fall asleep on the floor. Yeah, I only have two mirrors.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, I mean, I didn't know you could just like not look. Yeah, I feel like maybe you have to look.
You have to look. Yeah, I feel like that's too easy to avoid it.
A cursed clown.

Speaker 1 Maybe that maybe you have mirrors all around your room. Oh, fuck.
I just added to it. Damn.
Okay.

Speaker 1 I had to make it harder. I was like, we got to make that harder.
Cruel. I don't want to be in a pitch black asylum alone.
At least if I'm in my bathroom, I'm in my own house.

Speaker 1 You know, don't knock until you try it yeah that's true alone though

Speaker 1 scary but the views

Speaker 1 i think i'm going bathroom it's one night i can do it i want to say the asylum because i want to do that really bad but i know myself and i would absolutely panic the other night you were like if we have to do any i was like i can't go in a room by myself like i will lose my mind oh that's awesome yeah and then i was like and then when we were in there i was like okay i could probably go in a room by myself but then i was in the back going up the stairs and I almost crawled over all of you.

Speaker 1 Like I was about to like parkour above you. You were like grabbing me.
You were like pulling me back.

Speaker 1 It was like pitch black behind me. Oh, it's walking at the end of a line in a pitch black area.
It's the worst.

Speaker 1 And it was towards the end of the night. And I think I just felt way more on edge at the end of the night.
I went to grab something by myself and I was like, why the fuck did I volunteer to do this?

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I was like damn freaky. I remember it was like right at the bottom of the stairs.
So I was like, I can do it. But then I was like,

Speaker 1 no. It's scary.
It's a different feeling for sure. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I literally almost scaled all of you and jumped in front of them.

Speaker 1 You know, like everything you feel behind you, but then in front, they're going so slow. It's always like, go fast.
Oh, yeah. I felt like you guys were on a dead halt.
And I was like, I'm dying.

Speaker 1 Please.

Speaker 1 Somebody's going to kill me back here. And you're not moving.
I know. That was scary.
So I would say bathroom, probably.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I would do bathroom. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And just deal with the consequences of that. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
Well, we've also, again, we've had experience being in one of these places. So just being cool.
Yeah. Really been there, done that.

Speaker 1 That's something I didn't. I didn't want to.

Speaker 1 I would do it if I was with one other person.

Speaker 1 Just one other person would make me feel better. Yeah.
I would do it with one other person, too. Yeah.
Me alone, no. No.
All right.

Speaker 1 Would you rather be locked in Waverly Hills with a spirit that mimics your best friend's voice, or probably each other's voices, or be chased through the woods by a skinwalker holding a KFC bucket and calling you dinner

Speaker 1 oh my god

Speaker 1 so sadistic would you rather

Speaker 1 oh my

Speaker 1 okay well how did you come out with that

Speaker 1 you know what's insane this this sounds crazy

Speaker 1 so many KFC buckets

Speaker 1 literally all the time at Peramo location

Speaker 1 well not KFC like specifically but the the doppelganger sort of voice mimicking has happened to us like two or three times. With each other's voices,

Speaker 1 yes, yes. We were in Ferrar Elementary and it was late at night and we were done filming.

Speaker 1 I was like on the phone with my girlfriend and I could have sworn that Sam was like, yo, like three times, like calling me because it was like super late and like voices echo in that like gym.

Speaker 1 So I thought he was just like, yo, get to bed. And so like I came in.
I was just like, why were you calling me? And he was like, that was not me.

Speaker 1 That's wild. I hate that a lot.

Speaker 1 I hate the idea of mimic. Yeah.
So as much as I want like a skinwalker with Get C to chase after me, that's hilarious. I'd probably do the mimic because I've experienced

Speaker 1 the mimic is really scary. We've had that happen at the Conjuring House before, some other places as well, where we just hear each other's voices, or like EVPs will sound like our voices.

Speaker 1 Sometimes like we'll have on the spirit box, you know, like the things that you like, the SS method type of stuff, like the voices that come through the radio sound like us and each other.

Speaker 1 And it's like, no way.

Speaker 1 Super strange. That is scary.
There was like a really scary

Speaker 1 time in the Conjuring House that like we were sitting on a couch just doing research. And I forgot exactly what I said, but like I said a word and it repeated it back to me.

Speaker 1 Like it sounded like it was coming from like outside. or whatever.
And it happened on camera, by the way. So we have it all filmed.

Speaker 1 We posted everything like where I'm like, yo, and it's like, yo, or something like back to me multiple times, and then I say it in the same like amount of volume.

Speaker 1 I try it louder, I try it softer, or whatever, and then the echo just stops. But it's like three or four times before it stopped, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, it was like calling back multiple times, and then later that same week, because we stayed a week at the conjuring house, damn, I heard the same type of voice in the basement when I was alone.

Speaker 1 Colby was not even in the house, and I just heard like his voice like ring. And it's like, oh, what? Like, he's he's back.
no he's out in the woods it was insane yeah that's mimics

Speaker 1 well because they also feel like very diabolical because they're like trying to draw you in and it's like why well yeah most people believe that like mimics are like evil spirits yeah yeah for sure i've had an experience in this house where i

Speaker 1 i was in the bathroom and i was walking out and i saw elena like in the doorway and i went to say something to her and then she was gone and i came in here and she was sitting right there she's always sitting right there and i literally i was was like, were you just in the bathroom?

Speaker 1 And she was like, no, like, you were just in the bathroom buddy talking. I was talking right here.
I was like, and you saw me. I was like sheet white.
I was like, no, I just saw you. Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 And Mikey's experienced it too. Like, he's seen her in like a, like out of the corner of his eye or like in a doorway somewhere.
And then she'll like appear. And he's like, were you just there?

Speaker 1 And she's like, no.

Speaker 1 That's so scary. It's really terrifying.
Yeah. And I don't know why.
Why are you just showing up everywhere? I've been trying to figure it out. You're in three places at once.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm doing the most. Let's go.
I'm like, damn.

Speaker 1 yeah i don't know why it's scary it's freaking be awesome i mean maybe in this case it's like residual energy or something because this is your house yeah so i mean it felt weird so i don't know i don't like it's just sinister that they'll disguise themselves as people you love or know best friends whatever it's crazy yeah it's really scary i know because i've seen these like videos i don't know which ones are true or not but where they'll hear people like outside their door like speaking like someone they know and being like open the door i'm outside There's a whole like,

Speaker 1 you know, series about that.

Speaker 1 Ooh, thing. I don't know what it's called.
I would never recover. Yeah.

Speaker 1 The one that we saw in particular, and it was like the girl thought it was her mom. Oh, yeah.
And then she, the like guttural noise that she makes, she like screams or something.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because I think she says like,

Speaker 1 you're not my mom. And it starts to make this like horrible sound on the other side of the door that like ruined me.

Speaker 1 My goosebumps had goosebumps. I want to pull it up later.
I know. We'll have to show it to you.
It was so scary.

Speaker 1 It was wild. Is there a video of this? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 Oh, my.

Speaker 1 I know.

Speaker 1 I fucking hate it so much. Isn't that her?

Speaker 1 Then she said she called her neighbor for help.

Speaker 1 Every time I get really close.

Speaker 1 Oh, I hate that so much. I hate it.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Even if it's not real, great acting.

Speaker 1 I would not open that door.

Speaker 1 I would jump out the window and burn the house down. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So scary. I hate that.
So that's that. That's disgusting.
Yeah, it is disgusting. It really is.

Speaker 1 That's a burn your house type thing. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's over. All right.

Speaker 1 So next, would you rather? Yeah.

Speaker 1 After that, anyway, would you rather wake up every morning with a new cryptic symbol tattooed on your arm by ghosts? Or be cursed so that every mirror shows your future funeral?

Speaker 1 Oh, God.

Speaker 1 That's so dark. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Every day you get a new tattoo. Yeah,

Speaker 1 who knows how big it is? Every morning.

Speaker 1 It's a cryptic symbol. Whoa.
We got free tats.

Speaker 1 It's true. Hopefully Hopefully, they're good artists.
Hopefully, yeah, that's the thing that would freak me out. Yeah, what if they're shitty? Yeah, I was gonna say, what's the worst?

Speaker 1 I have dreams all the time where I got like a horrible tattoo, and I'm like, what do I do? Yeah,

Speaker 1 imagine trying to explain that to your friends, though. Like, you wake up and you're just like, I swear demons.
Yeah, you're like, I didn't got this.

Speaker 1 They're like, okay. Cheers.
But seeing like your funeral,

Speaker 1 that's like so mentally

Speaker 1 messed up.

Speaker 1 You know what? You guys are sadistic.

Speaker 1 You guys are fucked up for this.

Speaker 1 I kind of want to see

Speaker 1 my funeral to be like, who came?

Speaker 1 Who's there? You know what? Then, if you saw it every day, you could see who your real friends are. Yeah, that's actually kind of like a great tool.

Speaker 1 If things change, you all of a sudden see somebody not there. You can edit your funeral plans.
Like, no, everybody looks like shit. How about you wear this?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 This coat looks a little lame. Let's get a DJ up in here.

Speaker 1 Something like that.

Speaker 1 Get a better embalmer. I look like shit.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I just feel like it would be like a constant reminder that you're going to die eventually.
And so it's like, just

Speaker 1 it's like a good perspective.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so like you're like at a better live today well

Speaker 1 or whatever and you're just like having a great time. You look in the mirror and you're like,

Speaker 1 hey, I'm going to die.

Speaker 1 Take shots, everybody. But like with the tattoo thing, you can become like an experiment in a way.
I'm big in business. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And like you can just be like great. You'd be like, hey, government, like check this out.
Like keep me in like a lab or whatever and watch what happens to me every single day.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you want to get the government involved?

Speaker 1 That's great. Me too.
That's a good

Speaker 1 point. That's a good point.
You want the government to lock you in a lab? Yeah, I don't know about that.

Speaker 1 You'll never leave. I just run your own experiments.
But it's on YouTube for views. Yeah.
Views. Not the government.

Speaker 1 Never the government. If I could profit off of it on YouTube.
Yeah. Always be cleanboat.
Hell yeah. Always be closing.

Speaker 1 That's funny.

Speaker 1 Yeah. All right.
So you're going.

Speaker 1 Like I'm going to do tattoo.

Speaker 1 I'm doing funeral. I think about my death all the time anyway.
Yeah, I'm doing funeral. I mean, I love tattoos.
But you only see the same artist. I know.
He's not a demon. That's true.

Speaker 1 He's not a demon. His name is Matt.

Speaker 1 He's not a demon. All right.
Sorry, Matt.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I would say the funeral.

Speaker 1 Because I also always think about my own death. And I assume.
Same. I'm one of those people that's like, you might die tomorrow.
Like, do that thing. And I tell everybody else about that.

Speaker 1 Eat that cupcake. Eat eat that cupcake i guess you could avoid mirrors that's true yeah you could you could you'd run into them every day i don't look in mirrors a lot anyway yeah not like so am i

Speaker 1 like in the in it would be like a morning thing where i like start my day being like oh mortality and then it would just be like yeah i can avoid it would be kind of weird like doing your makeup driving

Speaker 1 you have to look in mirrors a lot driving i would actually see your funeral every time you're in the car you're like oh god is this it's which lanes are not the same.

Speaker 1 Or does cameras count too? Like if you're looking at your phone? Any reflection, probably?

Speaker 1 I feel like we can't do any reflection. That's going to go too crazy.
I think your bath's going to curve. Bathroom mirror.
Bathroom mirror. Only bathroom.
Not the rear view of my

Speaker 1 car.

Speaker 1 If it's not like bathroom. It's dangerous.
Okay. Then I'm switching my answer as well.

Speaker 1 I think I would just like come up with a routine, like get ready for a day, kind of like expect, I'm going to see my funeral. Yeah.
And then just you would get used to it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And just be a part of your your mortality for a minute. Then you're going to move on.
I sweat. Every day.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Sweet.

Speaker 1 There we go.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
The tattoos, I feel like could get wily. I'm a control freak and I need to make my own tattoos.
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
And I feel bad going to Matt later and being like, I'm so sorry.

Speaker 1 Can you fix this one? Yeah, like you're gonna grow up.

Speaker 1 So yeah. So we have two more.

Speaker 1 First one is, would you rather hear a demon whisper your name every night at 3.33 a.m.

Speaker 1 Exactly. Or have a Victorian ghost lady follow you into every bathroom you enter

Speaker 1 intrusive

Speaker 1 both are pretty intrusive honestly probably the Victorian lady really I did not expect really I mean I just feel like

Speaker 1 would I'm thinking like long-term here with like the demon Well, first of all, can you wear headphones when you're sleeping and then kind of like cancel it out? Nah. Okay.

Speaker 1 I don't know. Does your wife or husband like hear? Nah, they're fine.
It's just you. So they don't, you're the one that has to live with it? Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's your problem. It's your problem.

Speaker 1 Interrupted sleep or interrupted bathroom time.

Speaker 1 So is she like watching you while you're doing your business? I feel like she is.

Speaker 1 She's not modest. She's like, you should light a candle.

Speaker 1 She's like, what'd you eat? You know?

Speaker 1 I mean, that's more of like her problem. You know, like, that's my problem.

Speaker 1 Well, the demons, my problem. Really comfortable with her.
I'll be like, yeah, I'll watch this one, bro.

Speaker 1 Can you give me some paper towels? Technically, I'm just gonna wash my hands.

Speaker 1 If she wasn't able to communicate with anybody else, it's kind of like, how do you know that's not happening to you like right now? Yeah, like that's your little thing. Yeah, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 With her. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I would share that moment with Victoria Ghost, and that would be her problem. And I would just be like, sucks for you.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 But then if I'm sleeping and there's something in my ear every single night, that sucks for me. I'm waking up every night.
Interrupted sleep. I mean, I kind of agree.

Speaker 1 Instead of scrolling TikTok, you're like talking to a ghost. Yeah.
Chatting her up. Yeah.
It's kind of cool. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You're just

Speaker 1 like, yeah, you're going to ask her to like turn out. Someone walks in and you're like talking to yourself.
Like, you know,

Speaker 1 throwing ideas to her. It's like, yeah, is this guy crazy? Shit.

Speaker 1 You know what? That does kind of sound nice. I do the ghost lady.
Yeah. I don't want to be with you.
Is ours a ghost lady or is it a ghost man though? No, ours is a ghost lady.

Speaker 1 But watching him was ghost lady.

Speaker 1 Oh, ghost lady, sure. Yeah, totally.
Ghost man, no. No.

Speaker 1 Throw that out of there. Yeah, ghost Lady.
I'd just be like, all right, girl. Hey, girl.
Yeah, let's talk about stuff.

Speaker 1 I like that. I love it.
Yeah, that's an easy one because I don't want my name's whispered in the middle of the night all the time, yeah. Children all the time.
Thank you. You don't need to ask me.

Speaker 1 I need someone else. Yeah.
So the next one is, would you rather get trapped in a haunted mirror dimension with a ghost version of yourself? Whoa, a haunted mirror dimension. Or

Speaker 1 have a poltergeist that only, like forever, that only communicates with you by throwing tacos at your your head.

Speaker 1 That's awesome. Free tacos.
I like

Speaker 1 that, right? I feel like. Just wear a helmet everywhere you go.

Speaker 1 Try to drop it. Just try to catch.

Speaker 1 Thank you. Imagine how viral that is if, like, four or five times throughout every YouTube video, we just get a small tacos.

Speaker 1 It's like, where did that come from?

Speaker 1 Is it like hard shell or soft? You could choose, whatever your preference is. I feel like you would be able to talk to them.

Speaker 1 It's soft TV five-layer burrito, bro. Oh, no, for that.
Yeah. Tacos.
throw some nachos at you

Speaker 1 yeah but if it's like hard shell i feel like that could like poke out your eyes yeah that could get yeah that could get uh dangerous

Speaker 1 and messy i feel yeah it's only like messy yeah i would do the like a soft shell beefy five layer burrito from taco bell oh damn i'm a little choosy here

Speaker 1 i'm like are we ordering that after yeah we are now we're in taco bell today and it was thrown right at our face

Speaker 1 i would definitely choose the tacos Oh, yeah. I love tacos.
Big time. I'm a big taco people.
So I'd be like, talk to me all the time. Let's go.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I know, unless he's like humming it at your head. I know.
What if it ruined tacos for you? Could it

Speaker 1 ruin tacos for you? That could. That could.

Speaker 1 What's the other option? Trapped in a bird. Getting stuck in a mirror dimension with your ghost self? For how long? For a week.
A week? It's not that bad. I think

Speaker 1 you can continue.

Speaker 1 I feel like Mr. Beast was somehow like in a few come up with that challenge.
You're getting trapped here for a week. You're inside the mirror.

Speaker 1 With a ghost version of yourself. I might do a ghost version of myself.
I feel like you could learn a lot in that instance. That's true.
And then I could continue just having tacos when I want to.

Speaker 1 At your leisure. At my leisure.
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 Yeah. A ghost version of yourself could be cool.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Just know yourself. What if they're an asshole? Well, they're you.

Speaker 1 And then you're stuck there for a week.

Speaker 1 Are you an asshole? That looks like you. Sometimes.
Not to yourself.

Speaker 1 We're changing it. The mirror version of yourself is the asshole version of yourself.
It's the asshole version. It's like the bad part of you.

Speaker 1 Oh, you're living with the bad part of you. Oh, that's scary.
You have to come to terms with the negative side. That's a lot.
Maybe that's like a therapy session, though.

Speaker 1 That is kind of a therapy session therapy, I feel. I'm sticking with that.
I think that'd be a cool experience. You might come out a better person.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we don't know how hard the tacos are hurting your face.

Speaker 1 I don't know. And we love tacos, so we don't want them ruined.
Oh, and you don't know when they like materialize in the air. Like if they just materialize as they're coming at you.

Speaker 1 Well, you're gonna work something.

Speaker 1 I don't eat in my bed, so I don't want tacos on my bed. I don't want that.

Speaker 1 That's very true. Yeah.
You're driving and just gets smacked on the head.

Speaker 1 That's dangerous.

Speaker 1 Trying to take your everything shower. Oh, you have like the music on and everything's nice and calm.
And then like a giant burrito hits you in the face. Terrible.
I mean, you're just so awful

Speaker 1 right after you finish your shower and then boom, and you have to go back in the shower. You're like, God, just washed your hair and you get like queso in your hair? Oh, no, that'd be awful.

Speaker 1 Or, like, right after you blow-dry your hair,

Speaker 1 no, no, mirror dimension.

Speaker 1 I'm facing the shitty version of myself. So, are we all doing shitty version of ourselves?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I was going to go for tacos. You're still doing tacos, even after all that, you know, take another shower.
So, you make his ride like taco in the face. Taco in the face.

Speaker 1 You just start getting to the point where you're like catching them in your mouth.

Speaker 1 Got to get them gains.

Speaker 1 I like it. So, we got three mirror dimensions, one taco.
taco one taco demon all right all right we'll just take your tacos okay

Speaker 1 true you know give us your little shares yeah

Speaker 1 i could feed the homeless we married wow here you go

Speaker 1 toss tacos wherever you go

Speaker 1 that's great

Speaker 1 all right i think we learned a lot I think we did. We definitely did.
We know ourselves much better than each other. Yeah.
So let's do the two truths and a lie ghost edition. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 You guys are going to tell us two truths and a lie. Okay.

Speaker 1 So I'm just going to be looking straight here so you can't look at my eyes. I know I'm trying to pretty poker face.
Yeah, seriously.

Speaker 1 One time I went to the Villisca axe murder house and

Speaker 1 during like one of the last investigations, there was a spirit that tugged on the back of my crew neck that I was wearing and it scared me and made my eyes tear up instantly.

Speaker 1 And yeah, it was one of the only times that's ever happened where I've felt like a physical sort of touch like that. Holy shit.

Speaker 1 Another time I was in a spot called Bower's Mansion. It was in Texas.
And I was speaking out to a ghost named Bernard who was known specifically to slam doors.

Speaker 1 And after I asked him to directly slam a door, it happened in front of my face.

Speaker 1 And I instantly also broke out into tears, but this time down like my face. And it was one of the most traumatic jump scares I've had in my entire life.
Damn.

Speaker 1 They're all convincing so far.

Speaker 1 And then when I stayed in a week in the conjuring house, I was forced to stay in the basement on the last night and was uncontrollably sobbing the entire time until Sam was able to get me out at 5 a.m.

Speaker 1 All of these

Speaker 1 are so terrifying and real.

Speaker 1 And they all involve crying. Yep.
Oh, that's true. They do.
He cries a lot.

Speaker 1 What's your astrological side?

Speaker 1 Oh, cat recording. That's weird that you cry a lot.

Speaker 1 I don't cry that much.

Speaker 1 All right. It takes like ghostly intervention for you to cry.
Exactly.

Speaker 1 That's what it would take for me to cry, for sure. I think the last one is a lie because I think that was Sam.
Okay.

Speaker 1 What do you know?

Speaker 1 Do you know something?

Speaker 1 Am I like, are you working off of Intel? No, I'm not actually working off of Intel, but I'm working off like a possible memory of something I saw online. Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 I didn't see any full videos or anything, but I remember when you guys were teasing it. I don't know.
I didn't wait a second. I'm not going to pick that, just to be different.
Okay.

Speaker 1 I'm going with Bernard. Okay.
The second one. Tell us.
You were right. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It was me, right?

Speaker 1 That was not in the basement. I went to the basement one time, but I didn't cry.
Oh,

Speaker 1 I don't cry every single time.

Speaker 1 That was me in the basement crying till 5 a.m. Holy shit.
Wasn't it something where you saw your grandma, right? Yeah. Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 It's crazy. In the basement?

Speaker 1 That was the reason why I was crying, but that was earlier in the week. I did go in the basement till 5 a.m., and it was really, really terrifying.
And you cried because it was so scary.

Speaker 1 Not in the basement. I just made that part up.
Oh. But he had an experience in the living room.

Speaker 1 The basement in the middle of the night till 5 a.m.

Speaker 1 was where I heard Colby's voice, the mimic that I was kind of describing earlier in the podcast, where he was outside, actually, like in the forest, and I was like, holy shit.

Speaker 1 Hearing his voice, like call out when I was like alone. It was really, really creepy.
Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 We haven't been to the conjuring House yet. I really want to go.
I want to go so badly. You guys have to go.
I was supposed to go. I know.

Speaker 1 My husband actually got me, like, he knows me very well for our anniversary. He was like, we're going to go on a tour of the conjuring house.

Speaker 1 And there was like supposed to be a medium there. And it was going to be really, and I think he got sick right before and we weren't able to go.

Speaker 1 And if you get vertigo, he gets vertigo and it like knocks him down for like a week. Oh, damn.
It was weird. But we weren't going to go that day.
Maybe you were meant to go. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So you guys got to go. I know.
Because it's not far from us. Yeah, the conjuring house is actually going up for auction.

Speaker 1 Oh, really?

Speaker 1 This Halloween. Really? Yeah.
The last owner is, yeah, no longer a part of it. And so they're literally selling the house.
Oh, my God. So did wait.
Did Matt Rife not buy it?

Speaker 1 It's up for auction. He wants to.
He's not going to be in the bidding, I'm sure. Oh, okay.
I see.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Matt Rife just recently bought the Annabelle doll. Yeah, and the Warm Museum.

Speaker 1 So that's like a different thing. I thought Annabelle was missing.

Speaker 1 The same Annabelle they took on like tour and then, yeah, allegedly it went like missing. Yeah, but then never

Speaker 1 but then they got her. Yeah, but they found her.
Yeah. It was all kind of like a hoax, though.
Like the fact that she went missing. It was just kind of blown out of proportion.
She went on tour.

Speaker 1 And then like, because she wasn't at the house, people got to her. She was missing.
Well, she wasn't missing. She was on tour.
She was kept in busy. She went to like New Orleans.

Speaker 1 People were just blowing up. She was filming for people.

Speaker 1 Yeah. She was not possessed at all, you know?

Speaker 1 She was D cam down the hallway aiming at a corner.

Speaker 1 Oh, we have to go. I know.

Speaker 1 Serena and Corinne have gone there. Yeah, they had crazy stuff.
Yeah, they had crazy stuff. They did like the Estes method there.

Speaker 1 Some like really crazy things. Yeah, you guys have to check out Two Girls, One Ghost.
Yeah. You would like them.
They're like super spooky paranormal stuff. Sounds good.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we love them. All right, for sure.
Yeah, we'll do. All right, Sam, you're up.
Okay, I got it.

Speaker 1 So I'm also going to look at the

Speaker 1 coffee. Okay.

Speaker 1 Alright, there's been a paranormal story of a ghost who caused a disease that actually ended up becoming a virus that a lot of people got.

Speaker 1 There has been a confirmed death by a ghost.

Speaker 1 And there has been an Illuminati cave that turned to be haunted.

Speaker 1 Hmm. All right, we know the middle one is true because we covered that case.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Shit.

Speaker 1 But we still have two to work with.

Speaker 1 What was the first one? It was the virus.

Speaker 1 The virus.

Speaker 1 And then an Illuminati cave that was haunted.

Speaker 1 I'm going with Illuminati cave. I am too, because that's like, I feel like that's a conspiracy.

Speaker 1 It's the first one. Oh, it's a fire.

Speaker 1 The fire. No, no ghost fires.
I almost went there. So there really is an Illuminati cave? Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's called Hellfire Caves in England. In England.
Yeah. It's basically the Illuminati of

Speaker 1 the first thing.

Speaker 1 You guys know that. Shit.
And then you're frankly going down there and doing stuff. Damn.
Yeah. I covered it on, because it's

Speaker 1 like the Hellfire Club. Hellfire Club.
Oh, I do remember that now. Damn it.
They did a bunch of

Speaker 1 rituals down in there, and then it ended up becoming really haunting. Yeah.
What are the odds? You picked two cases we covered. She still tricked.
And I didn't remember the one that I covered.

Speaker 1 I mean, that's a lot of cases in our lives. It was.
I forgot you guys were the experts. That was a good.

Speaker 1 Oh, my gut was saying the virus, too, and I didn't go with it. Ah,

Speaker 1 with your gut. It felt believable.
Yeah, good job. Hey, well done.
Let's go. Well done.
All right. Well, we're going to move on to recording our next episode.

Speaker 1 Yeah, if there's anything you guys want to plug, yes.

Speaker 1 Plug away. Hail weeks coming in October.
Our biggest series of the year launches on October 5th.

Speaker 1 And the finale. This is going to be an exclusive for your guys' podcast.
Okay.

Speaker 1 So, for our Halloween finale, it just has to do with a really famous movie.

Speaker 1 I think it's the most famous horror movie that's happened recently.

Speaker 1 Like in the past month. I believe that's happened recently.
The most famous horror movie we were able to get to go investigate.

Speaker 1 Everyone at home will know.

Speaker 1 Maybe you guys aren't horror movie fans. We are.
We have a horror movie.

Speaker 1 There's been so many. I know.
I'm trying to think of one. Will you tell us off camera? Yeah, of course.
Very cool. Of course.
Okay. I'm probably going to feel stupid after.
No, I will too. Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 It has recently become the number one horror movie to hit any box office. Damn.
So that's pretty cool. Anyway, oh, I'm excited.
That's so cool. See what Halloween.
Yeah. Thank you for giving that

Speaker 1 exclusive on Morbid. I know.

Speaker 1 I'm so excited. Anything else you guys want to plug? Thanks for having us on.
We love having you guys. Thanks for coming.
So thank you guys so much for listening.

Speaker 1 We hope you keep listening and we hope you keep it weird.

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