2025.08.26: Skinfluencers

I can say that was probably very clever, but I don't seem to understand it.

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For August 26, 2025, my name is Bernie Burns, just sitting right over there.

It's not a podcast.

It's an intervention.

Say hi to Ashley, everybody.

Wait, what?

Why?

Can we talk just for a moment at the top of the podcast

about

what I would like to call

your financially crippling skincare addiction?

What the fuck is going on over there?

Okay, but you can't deny that my skin looks great right now.

Hey, guys, we got to put ads on the podcast.

Because Ashley's on every pharmaceutical site.

She's getting stuff shipped in.

Like, you're getting in.

what is all the stuff you're getting?

Okay.

What is a hair mask?

It's

if your hair is like, you know, got damage and stuff, you put, you do, so you do your shampoo and then you do a nice mask and condition.

And then afterwards, you can put on some hair oil.

And everyone says that you can do that and get really nice, soft, fluffy hair.

Mask is for your face.

That's where the term mask comes from.

No, it's a treatment that you leave on for a bit.

That's where, that's what that is.

It's like it's a treatment you put on for a little bit.

You do the same thing.

Yeah, you can do face masks.

And yes, I've bought a number of those as well, but you can also do them for your hair.

A mask for your hair that goes on your hair is called a hat.

So you bought a hair hat.

What you want?

It sounds like you're getting lost in semantics and

forgetting to complement

my many efforts.

Here's the problem.

I've been thinking about how to approach this because I want to say, like, you don't need to do all this.

You're beautiful.

But then it makes it seem like your opinion of your own skin is based on my opinion of your skin, which it's not.

You can do whatever you want to.

I just don't understand.

Like,

let me make a relatable metaphor here.

Like, you're working on your skin care and you're working on your face and everything.

For me, let's say I was painting the side of a garage, right?

Okay.

It's just like painting the side of the garage.

If I had five cans of paint showing up every couple of days, eventually you would come to me and go, hey, what's the deal with all the fucking paint, right?

What are you doing to this garage?

What are you, what's what's going on here?

And that would be, I think, a very justified question to ask.

I really do.

So here's what it comes down to is you have different routines in the morning and the evening.

And also in the evening is when you will typically do like a range of things.

So you can do your like retinoids, right?

That's a very common.

That's a very common one.

You should be doing retinoids.

The fact that you're not isn't my problem.

And so you can do your retinoids and then you can do you can do your nice little face masks or hair masks, whatever you want to call them, put the hair mask on the face.

Who gives a shit?

But you can do your like nice treatments and stuff uh and so sometimes you'll rotate what you do for your evening routine which does pump up the number of products it does it does but it also means that like i have a different eye cream in the morning than i have in the evening you put you're pulling your headphone phone cable in your direction and there's a little coil on it and i thought something was moving across the floor i thought there was a mouse it's very relatable uh yesterday we were talking about uh

hair on the wall of the shower and all the dudes with girls in their life like race to the comments going what's this is the thing this is the deal well and the thing is you

only see it you see it if you come into the bathroom like immediately after i've showered right usually what i try to do and i will admit that if we're really busy if we're in a hurry sometimes i will forget and then it stays on the wall longer than intended but usually the idea is it goes on the wall and then i clear it off and it goes in the bin after i'm out of the shower but we had a lot of advice yesterday uh also about how to handle this hair problem in the shower and that we should get a catch-all drain.

Would love to.

We should post a picture of the drain to show like the issue that we have.

This is almost like a custom drain work where it's this very long

thin rectangle that's cut into the tile floor.

It's like a French drain.

And then there's an, yeah, and then there's another panel that goes in the middle with more tiles.

So it's like, ooh, look how minimalist.

And it's really cool.

Is it if you don't have hair?

To respond to your first comment, no, absolutely.

We're not going going to take a photo of this because I like trying to explain stuff that's in our houses without providing photographic evidence of it.

So then people argue about it for a long time, including me.

This is like, if you know, like the pan that's underneath a shower, right?

The drain pan, essentially, which is what they put in before they put in the fancy shower that you stand in because they need it to be like a watertight chamber, essentially.

So that has a normal, like round drain in it.

But then when they put the actual shower and tile work in

it's it looks like a french drain that's the best way i can describe it a very long rectangular drain but when you go to work on the drain you open it up and imagine i'm working on a circle

through a rectangle a long thin rectangle so you get to see about what would you say 30 40 of that circle out

i don't know what the panel looks like underneath what's that i don't know what the whole panel looks like well you know it's round

you can tell it's a round shape that we're working with underneath there where it's got like some kind of thing too.

It's a little bit of weight that goes on it.

Yes, I have seen

almost like a weighted panel that drops down.

Here's what I'm gathering.

It's not even enough showing of it that you have worked out that it's a circle, which is one of the most identifiable shapes in the universe.

So we have to like get on the edge of it.

Like we've never even seen the back side of this thing.

It's not a great setup for digging hair out of there.

So I appreciate everyone's like none of those solutions are going to work for us.

This is my TV all over again in my living room back in Austin.

Just wait though.

In like a couple of years, they're going to install new drain technology and then Brink's going to be crawling through the outside of the house, like installing new drain tech.

So, I fucked up too.

I have my version of skincare and new tech.

You had in the cart ready to go a NAS,

which calling it a NAS server is probably redundant, but I'm going to go ahead and do it anyway, which is basically for storage, like centralized storage in the house.

And then you had drives you were going to pop in it.

And I was like, nope, we're doubling those drives because I have another philosophy too.

I've never in my life ever bought a product and thought,

I shouldn't have bought this much storage.

I've never had that thought.

Have you ever had that thought?

No, it might take 10 years to fill it up, but guess what?

It's going to get filled up.

But you don't think about it for 10 years, right?

And it is one of those things like, yes, if we buy an eight terabyte drive, it's significantly less than a 16 terabyte drive.

But I did a whole spreadsheet and showed it to you.

Like the sweet spot was two 16 terabyte drives.

That's the least amount you pay per terabyte.

After that, you get these massively huge drives.

Not that 16 terabytes is not huge, but you get to these massive drives where it just, it's ridiculously expensive.

It's weird how the hockey stick purchase price of storage works.

Like you can get something that's like, I guess, 64 terabytes at this point, but God, you're going to pay through the nose for that.

Can I also note that you showed me this while I was asleep?

Yeah, no, no, no, that's not fair.

I woke you up first.

Babe, babe, babe, check this out.

Check this out.

So I made an Excel spreadsheet.

That is not the the way I do it, Ashley.

That is not, we're married.

We live in the same house.

I would never just like wake you up and say, look at this.

What I do is I walk in the room.

You seem like you might be asleep.

So I go, hey, are you asleep?

And you go, no.

And I go, okay, never mind.

Go back to sleep.

Might need to refine that approach.

Refine my approach.

So I was thinking about something really stupid this morning.

I'm just thinking more about

my whole skincare journey at the moment,

trying to correct all the mysteries,

by the way.

Thank you.

That means that it's working.

You look fantastic.

That means it's working.

But I was thinking, but it made me think other things about my

all of them.

My medicine.

Are you using 47 products at this point?

Yes, I use vitamin C in the morning, and then I'm going to use a retinoid in the evening.

I'm going to probably be using hyaluronic acid and a niacinamide, as well as an evening moisturizer.

I've got a toner.

Sometimes I'm going to put some of that snail goop on my face.

And then also, I'm going to rotate a treatment of face masks,

collagen masks, and then also this microneedle in a bottle that stings a bit, but seems cool.

And, you know,

I got a system.

Anyway.

The point is, I'm learning a lot as I go about skincare, right?

And that's a lot easier in the age of Instagram where you have like aestheticians and stuff being like, you want to pair your vitamin C with sunscreen.

You want to make sure if you're doing a retinoid, you always wear, do vitamin C and sunscreen in the morning because you're getting more sensitive.

All that stuff, right?

Stuff that I didn't learn when I was young.

In addition to thinking that I was immortal when I was young and taking absolutely no steps to protect my skin whatsoever.

Baby oil in the sun.

Right.

Yeah, you just like, that's the thing, right?

When you're young, you're just like, I'm immortal.

I don't have to worry about that.

And then, you know, you get to my age and you're like if i'd worried about this 20 years ago things would be a lot easier

about but there's a lot of worried about seeing billy in the hall on tuesday

i wonder if he's gonna pull all of his pants all the way up today uh the but there's a lot of things that i feel like i never i never learned how to do properly i didn't get sit down and have like the right lessons about this stuff didn't have this stuff not exist back when you were a kid too i feel like all this is like a modern invention yeah probably when i was young it was like here apricot scrub right scrub your face with these little apricot seeds.

And yeah, it's going to tear the shit out of your face, but it'll also get the top layer off, which is what you're looking for.

Yeah, like we had oxy pads, which were basically like little cotton swabs dipped in isopropyl alcohol.

And they told us to rub that on our face.

And it would burn.

You remember that?

It would burn.

Did you ever use that stuff?

Yeah, I had really sensitive skin when I was a kid.

And I remember I was on retin-A in junior high school for my acne.

And they go, well, it's going to sting and you're going to get redness for a bit at first, but your skin will adjust.

And so even though my skin was like stinging and peeling off, I kept like layering it on and layering it on.

And then I remember one day in school, I was like hiding in the bathroom because my skin, my whole face was like flaking off.

It's tough.

And you can't put makeup on that because then the makeup just sticks to the flakes and makes it look even worse.

I looked like I had a disease.

Skin is tough.

It was awful.

Skin is really tough.

And it's one of those things where...

If I had, you know, been asking a doctor at the time, they probably would have been like, well, then lay off until the peeling stops and then let's reintroduce this maybe gradually, okay?

But I didn't, so I just kept following the last set of instructions I had, even though they clearly weren't working.

Uh, you know, it's one of those things where I just like, I just need a spirit guy.

Do you know I didn't know how to brush my teeth properly for the first like 40 years of my life until I see some stupid video that says that after you brush your teeth, you're not supposed to rinse your mouth up?

What?

Yeah, I didn't know that.

What do you mean you're supposed to walk around with a mouth?

Well, Full of toothpaste.

Yes.

Oh, get out of here.

You're not supposed to be.

You're supposed to leave the toothpaste with the fluorid so it can do its work.

And you're also not supposed to eat or drink for like a half hour afterward.

Oh, I see.

So you're not supposed to rinse, like physically rinse it out with water.

Yeah, don't like get water and go

and spit.

Don't do that.

You're not supposed to do it.

I always thought you did that.

For the first 40 years of my life, I brushed my teeth wrong.

I rinsed out my mouth.

What are you doing for the rinse?

Like you're doing like a full like swish wish swish and rinse and getting out the teeth.

You're purposefully trying to get it all off there?

Absolutely.

I did.

I thought that's how you got the minty clean feeling, not like

I've got a bunch of toothpaste in my mouth now.

I do that thing after I brush my teeth where my cup, which I fight like hell to keep my cup in the bathroom because it always gets clean.

It always gets clean.

I have like two things on my counter.

That's it.

And I want the cup there.

Like, just leave my cup, please.

But it needs to get washed.

I know it needs to get washed, actually.

I know.

But it's like, I wash it by putting water in it every single day.

That's not how that works.

That's gross.

But anyway, it doesn't matter anyway because the cup sits there.

Even when it's on the counter, I do the thing that I I always do, which is I just drink out of my goddamn hand

of the tiniest little sup of water and just swish, swish, spish, and then spit that out.

And then the cup is just sitting there going, come on, dude.

All right, then.

Fine.

Okay.

What am I in this relationship for?

Why am I even here?

What's the point of me?

Yeah, I feel like, though, it's like, if you were going to try to get retinoids, I guess retin-A would have been a retinoid.

I never did

math on that one.

What's the one they take now that like messes people up?

Like, it's like dries your bones out in a little.

Yeah, no, that's the one that lasts for like six months, right?

Yeah.

Oh, God.

Retin-A in the 80s was almost like, or 90s was almost like Botox today.

They also figured out at some point that retin-A got rid of wrinkles.

So kids that were using it needed it for acne, for severe acne.

They were having to fight these old ladies who wanted to like get rid of their wrinkles.

Am I recalling, right?

Wasn't that retin-A?

Yeah,

no, I mean, it's, that's one of the things about, like, I am now an adult and I do retinoids again because of, yes, because of wrinkles.

What's the thing I'm thinking about?

We got to think about this i know it's it took hold on it was like a six-month treatment and it made your skin papery thin and really dry and gus did it uh yeah and it's one of those things where it is a manual that is like of warnings that is like 18 pages thick it's crazy and uh i had uh one of my kids was gonna uh take it and i thought oh i'll go talk to one of my friends who has taken this accutane accutane i was gonna say aterall

it wasn't adderall obviously accutane and uh i went to uh i asked my friends who had taken it when they were younger, and they were like, they talked about it a long time and said, I had really terrible acne as a teenager.

I took it and Accutane was really tough and it completely cleared my skin up.

And it's true.

They looked fantastic.

And I asked a couple of them who had taken Accutane.

I go, my kids looking into it should take it.

And they all, to a person, said, don't do it.

Really?

Even people who were like...

singing the praise of it.

It worked for them.

It did everything that they wanted it to do.

And they said, don't do it.

One person in particular said, I had thoughts when I was on that stuff that I never had before that or after that ever.

Like, I specifically had weird thoughts.

And it's one of the ideation is one of those things that can go along.

So, one of the warnings, and you never know, because it can land on people.

But, yeah, I even heard about somebody, somebody else I knew said their

cartilage between their ribs swelled and they could feel it all the time.

Like, they couldn't move and it was terrible.

But acting is one of those things.

It is one of those rolls of the dice, it's insane how what 99% of us have skin, right?

At least.

99% at minimum.

But we don't have that figured out.

Like, it's just like acne can land on one person and it's just, it's so, it's unfair.

Call it what it is.

It's completely unfair, how it can just land on somebody.

And there's a lot of times that, like, you can do all the skincare things and it only helps so much, right?

Because you can get hormonal acne, which is your body just goes, hey.

Fuck you in particular.

Yeah.

Right.

It's just like, that's the way that it works.

What is it?

Is it your skin allergic to hormones?

What is that?

It's not fair, whatever it is, and it sucks.

And you're right.

It seems like something that would be

like one of those things.

We would just solve that, right?

Except you go, well, but the solution means that for six months, you may have like ideation.

And also, I heard a the reason I never looked into it was I heard like the horror stories of like some girl went to get her eyebrows waxed and it pulled her skin off.

You know, that kind of like, you know, urban legend.

It was like, it was at that salon right there.

so i was like yeah i'm not gonna do that yeah so i

suffered through my horrible flake face you know what i heard about that that made that why i probably have never done it i heard that about a pedicure thing where a bunch of people got some kind of infection and it caught you no i lost their legs below the knee okay i didn't hear that part but i did hear about uh a while ago there was like a spa trend to have you know those little fish that would like bite the eat the calluses and stuff uh that like it was from those but then i don't know the water isn't treated right or

just, you know, and in a fish-friendly environment is not necessarily bacteria-free.

And yeah, and people were getting these horrible infections from these like fish pedicures.

Yikes.

And so I think they stopped.

That trend fell off quickly.

Are they still doing, is Botox still a thing?

You're in that skin influencer.

Oh, yeah.

No, I see that all the time.

They're being like, you would do your talks here and here.

You'd get your fillers here, but don't bother doing it here, here, and here.

And I'm like, I just, I don't know.

that seems like a lot of work.

So I just, I just order a bunch of skincare products instead.

Do people say skin fluencer?

Is that oh, I'm, that's, yeah, absolutely.

When I said it out loud, it's like, there's very few steps between that and serial killer, actually.

It's like the next dot in the connect the dot.

Well, it's some people just think that maybe like 99% of people having skin is too high a percent.

It's connect the dots.

I think like our kids don't do any connect the dot puzzles.

It's a good way to get us to learn to count, but it's that seems like something also that's completely antiquated now.

It's fallen off.

When was the last time you saw a connection

paper?

Yeah, that's true.

That's true.

Although the kids have coloring books and stuff like that, but no, connect the dots isn't a thing.

They're still doing word search.

They're still doing painting.

They're still doing coloring.

Maybe we're just not a connect the dot figure.

Well, we might be looking in the wrong places.

We just haven't like hit up the connect the dots section of the bookstore.

It was just an American thing.

Maybe that was popular when there was all that lead and gas light.

Also, you haven't seen, remember paint by numbers?

When was the last time you saw a paint by numbers thing?

It has been a while.

Although I also, the

increase in, you know, iterations of technology, the way things work now, I do love

the invention of water painting.

So there's these papers where if you like get water on them, they reveal colors underneath.

I wouldn't call that painting, but yeah.

You can like color stuff without actually being able to color anything.

It's great for kids in the car.

It's, it's, and it's also, yeah, it's because it doesn't cause a mess or anything.

And it's also really good for kids that don't have the coordination to actually like draw anything yet.

Instead of just making the like thundercloud scribble, they can actually feel like they're doing color art.

Let me describe for the listening audience what you're talking about.

So what Ashley's talking about here is there'll be a coloring book, but it's kind of like the sheets are almost like plasticky feeling.

And let's say one of the images is like the, it's the side of a garage and it's all white.

And it's a black outline.

Just like a normal coloring book.

It looks like that.

But then you have a pen that you fill with water, and then it's got almost like a paintbrush tip to it, a little bit, kind of like a felt pen, like a Sharpie.

And the water goes down that, and then you just basically paint in the little outlines with the water, and the white goes away and reveals beneath the colors that are part of it.

So you don't actually, if you're in the car, for instance, all you have in the car is water.

And the coloring book, you don't even have crayons to melt into the seat and stuff like that.

It's a really safe way to have kids do it.

But it's also like the least creative way to color something.

You're just basically making something wet.

But if it feels like you're doing something yeah no it's like i wouldn't use it for say finn who's six now and capable of of like holding crayons and drawing his own stuff but it was really good for a one-year-old who like wants to like make pictures but can't do more than just scribble back and forth in a straight line yet i'm so happy we have on the wall in our kitchen we have a

six well at the time four-year-olds drawing of the family and i love that it's like the classic thing to me just a drawing of the family It is.

It's like one of those, like, it's the cliche you want.

Yeah.

Right.

Even Mush is in there.

I love it.

I love the first thing that they draw is the family.

I love that.

I love that.

So we were talking the other day.

I don't think we talked about it on the podcast, but I learned that they are making another Tom Cruise movie.

Maybe I said this in one of my many times when I said how much I love Tom Cruise.

They're always making another Tom Cruise movie.

Sorry, Top Gun.

I said Tom Cruise.

Top Gun.

As soon as I got Tom Cruise on the brain, as soon as I started to think about Top Gun.

So they're making a follow-up to Maverick.

and I thought Maverick was amazing because they basically just made a sequel 40 goddamn years apart, and it was such a good movie.

And then I come to find out they're making a sequel, and I'm like, oh, please don't.

Like, it's like, you don't need an, you don't need a trilogy.

You can just have the Top Gun movie and it's sequel and it's perfect and leave it alone.

Like, I'm not, in my mind, I'm like, they did that with Blade Runner, and I'm not looking for another Blade Runner.

Guess what?

What?

They're making another Blade Runner.

Blade Runner 2099.

I just learned about this yesterday.

I don't know how.

It's a series.

It's got Michelle Yeo in it, which is pretty fucking.

You know what?

Now that you're saying that, I do remember hearing they were developing this series.

Dang, dude.

But Blade Runner 2049 is so freaking good.

And those two movies just together are fantastic.

I don't know.

Maybe I should be less cynical, you know, and just be like, okay, this is great.

But I just feel like they don't need any more of those two movies.

Not necessarily, but here's one thing that I really like about the Blade Runner movies that we have and the universe that it's set in is it's a like a very developed universe, it seems like, right?

Like there's a, there's a whole world that's built out there, but the stories are very personal, right?

They're not, they're not out there like changing everything about the world building movie by movie by movie.

So you can tell other personal stories in that world that can be just as impactful.

Oh, you mean just within the universe?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Which maybe they'll stay away from Harrison Ford entirely, you know?

I mean, at this point, I assume that they would.

he's doing TV stuff these days.

That's true.

He's got shrinking, right?

Yeah, yeah.

And he's pretty happy, and he's pretty clear.

Like, one of the comments that somebody made to him was like, was it weird for you to be acting like the Hulk and like running around and going, rahr, and all that stuff?

Was that weird for you as being Harrison Ford?

And he said, that's what the money is for.

That's my Harrison Ford impression, by the way.

But everyone's like, that's such a great answer.

It's like, that's what the money is for.

But also, it's like, how much money does he?

He's going to have so much money at this point.

At this point, point, I think he would just choose projects just for the hell of it, right?

Yeah, I assume so.

And also, it's sort of like, oh, was that role embarrassing for you?

When isn't the art of acting is inherently kind of embarrassing?

Like, you are playing make-believe in front of a crew of 100 people, maybe, and pretending that something that's not real is very real.

He has a shirtless scene in that, which he must have shot it in his 80s because he's now 83 years old.

Damn, hell yeah, brother.

Can you imagine getting cast to play the Hulk when you're 82?

How does that even happen?

You know what it is, though?

He takes his retinoids and that's kept him young.

Exactly.

He's had retinoids since the 80s because he can afford it.

And retin-A and everything and everything else.

Lasers off his face on a regular basis.

But, you know, it's one of those things.

It's like,

can you imagine the person who cast him is like, okay, we're going to pair you with the trainer and the dietician.

And you're like, I got to fucking talk to Harrison Ford at 80 about getting in shape to play the Hulk.

I have to connect him.

Not only that, but like, I have to convince him to actually do the stuff.

Like, you can, you can tell someone, right?

Like, well, you need to do this and this and this.

But how do you make Harrison Ford do the things?

I don't know.

We years ago, I guess that's what the money's for.

We had that experimental channel

I made for stuff, just little stuff I wanted to do that I didn't want to put on the main rooster channel.

And I did that interview with the guy who could do the perfect Harrison Ford impression.

That was pretty funny.

That was pretty fun.

That was fun.

And I wish I had him back to do this because he had an amazing

Some people can do it.

Mark Hamilton doing great Harrison Ford.

He does.

Just from being around.

He's done it on some night shows and stuff.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And they've played it for Harrison Ford.

And you're like, I don't care.

Doesn't give a shit.

I don't know.

That was a good impression right there.

Yeah, just the.

I don't care.

That's it.

That's all you got to do to play Harrison Ford.

I've always said there's certain actors that can do certain things really well, very specific things.

Like Bruce Willis can sit in a chair and listen to someone talking to him and somehow be engaging while listening.

I've always thought Bruce Willis had an incredible ability to do that.

Harrison Ford, Harrison Ford can get hurt and take a punch better than anybody I've ever seen

on screen.

Yeah, like when Indiana Jones gets hit, and it's also Steven Spielberg is shooting it.

And so when he gets hit and he like, his head turns back towards the camera, it's always just fantastic.

And his jaw is out of line.

I just love it.

I would watch Harrison Ford take a punch all day long.

Or punch, was it Ryan Gosling he accidentally punched

on the

Blade Runner set, and they were joked about that for ages?

Don't work is dangerous, man.

It's dangerous work.

I recently learned a fact.

I saw this online, probably on Reddit.

Saw that Steven Spielberg has been thanked in more Oscar acceptance speeches than any other entity, including God and families.

That's because families don't matter.

Families don't get you famous.

You know what does?

Steven Spielberg.

I don't think that's possible.

Honestly, I'm going gonna say I don't think that's possible God I believe I don't know if he's been thanked more than people thank them family well I mean you can say I mean it depends on how you want to like read the statistics right it's like Hollywood math it can say a lot of things depending on what you want it to say if you're like naming individuals then do you count those as individuals or as family?

Yeah.

Or do they have to say, I'd like to thank my family in order for it to count as family, right?

In the latter case, yeah, probably.

in the former i would assume that they would like thank specifically like their partner so-and-so uh and that does it count did you ever see the one where kathy bates who played annie in misery i know kathy bates she's yeah i know kathy everyone knows kathy bates i think she's in matlock now matlock they did a revival of matlock is she matlock yeah oh that's cool that's cool that's an old andy griffith show the uh she for years she when she accepted her academy award she regretted that she never thanked her mom and it was a big deal to her And she was doing an interview and the interviewer was one of these guys who does deep dives on people.

And he said, you always regretted that you didn't thank your mom during your acceptance speech.

He goes, yes.

He goes, it's terrible and it's haunted me for years.

And he goes, you did.

What?

What?

And she goes, you did.

Here, we'll play it for you.

They played it for her.

She thanked your mom.

And you can watch her react to it live in the interview.

And she's like, thank you for showing this to me.

She goes, what in the world?

She just had lived with this thing for years that she had done on a global scale.

And nobody had just, nobody had realized that she had thanked her mom.

And this guy did the deep dive and found it out, or him and his team.

It's really silly how happy I am about that right now.

Right.

Like, I wasn't remotely invested, but now I'm like really happy for Kathy Bates.

Yeah, it's a really cool moment.

So, that's a good moment for Tuesday.

Ashley, who are we thanking today for this lovely podcast?

Well, we're definitely not skipping thanking Tyler Plunkett and Zelbinion.

Thank you both so much for sponsoring this episode of our show at patreon.com/slash morning somewhere.

And God Family and Steven Spielberg.

All right, well, that does it for us today, August 26th, 2025.

We will be back to talk to you tomorrow.

We hope you will be here as well.

Bye, everybody.