2025.08.20: SCOBY Don't

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Hey, we're recording the podcast!

Got up!

Good morning to you, wherever you are, because it is

for August 20th, 2025.

My name is Bernie Burns.

Sitting right over there, she's the proud mother of a second grader.

That's

hat, actually.

Yeah, big shout out

to Finn, who started P2 today.

P2, P2.

It's so, I, the, the whole grade system in the UK is complicated.

Today I was talking to him about being in second grade, or excuse me, P2, and I had to correct myself all the time.

And I said, how many people do you think are in your

P2?

I was like, man, it's such a weird system over here, man.

I think they would say it, who's in your year?

Who's in your year?

Right.

But then also,

a lot of the smaller schools in our area have to do combined classes.

So it's not just who's in his year, who's in the years in his group.

Right.

It's like it's a whole thing.

But, but he is off to school and he's going to learn a lot.

And I'm really proud of him.

It's kind of bittersweet.

It's one of those things where you're like, you don't want to be sad for your kid going into school because they're going to learn new stuff.

But there goes your baby.

And he's never going to be this young again.

Tomorrow, he's going to be a day older and he's never going to be as young as he is right now.

It's funny because I was thinking to myself, I was like, man, can you believe you've already got a second grader?

And then another voice in the back of my head goes, and an electrician.

Because Teddy is with us too.

And Teddy came to Finn's first day of school today.

That was really cool.

It was nice.

It was really nice.

And yeah, so we sent him off.

He's off learning.

Got a clean uniform for a new year.

It's all

covered in stuff.

It's going to be great.

It'd be great.

And Evie's going to start school soon.

That'll be crazy.

We're going to go a little bit, you know, that like empty nest that they talk about with like parents who's like, the kids have gone off to college or like they've got their appointments.

But most of our friends.

Yeah.

And I'm like, I'm having that, but just with them going to school.

Yeah.

I'm going to just be like looking around going,

ah.

You're empty nest until 3 p.m.

What do I do with my hands?

And then 3 p.m.

will come around and I'll be like, god damn it, kids.

Can I just say, we took all the photos out in front today with we were doing this tradition of him holding up a piece of paper for every year on his first day of school so he'll have this little collage when he finishes.

And

I love that.

I see these posts, though, online, and there's something that bothers me.

It's really specifically that bothers me.

I do like when parents are funny and honest or whatever.

I don't like, though, when parents insert themselves into kids' stuff.

Like this is, go ahead.

This is about the kids.

The first day of school is about the kids.

But then you see these viral photos of the kids all lined up on their first day of school and they're all sad.

And mom and dad are there and they're all happy because the kids are going back to school.

And it's like, come on, it's not about you.

Come on, stop.

No, but look, I get it.

It is, there is an element of it for the parents as well, right?

Because it is not just a big schedule.

change for the kids.

It's also like the parents have been spending all summer probably scrambling for child care.

Because guess what?

Their jobs didn't give them a break over the summer.

They still had to work.

True, that's true.

They've been spending the last few months scrambling, trying to make sure that their kids are alive and taken care of while the kids are like you know running around enjoying the summer going this is great and the parents are like I don't ever sleep this is so so hard and now school comes around and you're like

well at least someone is guaranteed to be taking care of them between these hours and I can resume life so there is a little bit of relief there yeah right you got all this extra stuff that goes along with it like clubs and sports and everything else too yeah that all starts back up at the same time that's true where you're like well now I run a taxi service my uh my opinion of summer vacation as a kid was really skewed even more than most people because both my parents were teachers so they did get summer vacation right so they were off with us in the same school district so of course so as soon as we were off school they were off school and it was occasionally for extra money one of my parents might teach summer school which i don't even know if that's a thing here summer school not not that i've seen but maybe we'll find i don't know maybe we'll find out after finn takes his owls or like what whatever the non-harry potter Potter version of owls is here.

Because I've learned that all of those things that I thought were like magical fantasy made up things, they're real.

They just call them something different here, like GCSEs or A levels or something.

Gavin told us how simple the British school system was to understand

with all the P's and all that stuff.

And I made him explain.

It took him like 30 minutes to explain it.

The more he talked, the more complicated it got.

But it was so simple to explain.

The U.S.

system is grade one through 12.

That's it.

Done.

Like, the only thing that makes it complicated complicated is kindergarten.

If they called kindergarten grade zero, it would be perfectly simple.

Right.

But then also, uh, there is the additional complication in the U.S.

of do you go to a junior high school or do you go to a middle school?

That's just like sophomore or whatever, too.

That's made-up shit.

Like, that's not real.

No, but that's like, are you changing schools at

grade six or grade seven?

You know, so

there's like a couple of things there, but for the most part, yeah, you have, uh, you have

K and then you have one through 12, and that's it.

whereas you've got here what i'm gonna try i'm gonna do my best here you've got there's nursery uh and then you have p1 oh you're doing the british system now through p7 i don't know if we have enough time on this podcast

and then you have secondary one that's a high school through what three or four something like that but then you have college which is right which is like 16 which is not university it's different than university it's college

and then when you're done with college then you can go to university right If you're in the United States, which if you're in Scotland, it's three years, but if you're in England, it's four.

Get the fuck out of here.

Just tell me where to go next.

That's like when you're a student, you're so used to people.

Just tell me where to go next.

It's one of the hardest things when you graduate finally.

It's like, oh, I'm completely in charge of me.

That sucks.

That's terrifying.

Yeah.

What am I going to do now?

Hey, can I say, we would just briefly mention it.

Is summer school even a thing in the U.S.

anymore?

Because when I think about what summer school

was when I was a kid, it's a lot of stuff that doesn't exist in the modern era.

Like, summer school was like

remedial.

You're a dummy, you're going to summer school.

Or this is a kid who failed this grade, so he's got to go to summer school.

So he has to get held back.

Yeah.

Does anyone even fail anymore?

Like, do you get held back in a grade?

Well, I mean, I don't know.

Now that we're talking about like kids who can't read graduating, I'm not sure that's a thing anymore.

Like, what would have to happen in order to go to summer school?

Like, what would that be today?

I haven't heard about it in years.

You got to commit a crime.

Yeah.

Or detention.

I never hear about kids getting detention.

What do you think?

If kids aren't, if detention is like not a thing, if it's just like a weird fiction, what do kids think of like the like 80s movies that all took place in detention?

I wonder that too.

Yeah.

Or like Saturday detention, which is the whole premise for Breakfast Club.

Like you're so bad at school, we're going to make you go to more school.

Or more school on Saturday.

It's like,

is that the premise of a horror movie for like kids going to school now?

The premise for breakfast club is all the kids did one thing wrong, then they had to come and sit in the school on a Saturday in the library and do nothing.

Like basically in confinement jail for the kids.

I just don't think that exists today.

I don't think it does.

It seems totally normal to me having grown up in that era.

Right.

But I also

like as like adults and we've gone in more with this like

positive reinforcement direction is, you know, for parenting and everything.

You go, what was that accomplishing?

What was, what was that?

And they nailed it too because the guy guy that they have watching them is, I don't know what his name is, but they have a male teacher who's doing it and he's really mad about being there.

That's always the guy they got to do it.

It was always a gym teacher.

And when I remember about being in detention or in building suspension is what we called it in Houston, if you were in that, it was always a male teacher and they spent the entire time.

talking about how easy we have it now in this new era in the 80s.

You know, we used to be able to hit you guys.

Tell us that.

Do you think they got that script?

Like they would like to get that script from somewhere.

And that's part of like running that class is telling you about like how easy you've got it and what they used to be able to do.

Oh, yeah.

You guys are so soft now.

Yeah.

We used to be able to drag you out in the parking lot and wail on you.

Back in my day, we had canes.

Did you have what the corporal punishment in your school at any point in time?

Not that I know of, but also I was in absolute goody-two-shoes.

Like I was getting all the like really good grades.

Corporal punishment, by the way, is the nice official way of saying hit the kids that go to school there.

Yeah, officially.

You hit the kids officially with

the school's blessing.

Right.

And the principal had a what?

Switch.

They had a paddle.

Oh, no.

Well, the paddle.

I don't know.

I associate the paddles more with oddly enough, like university hazings.

True, but I mean, I always heard about that the principal had a paddle and that if it was a really bad principal, they would drill holes in it so it wouldn't get as much air resistance.

So that it could get going faster.

Yeah.

This is me growing up in this air.

It sounds so weird now to talk about this.

And then you talk about like the famous kid who the principal broke the paddle on.

Yeah, right.

Exactly.

And then he gets like broke the paddle.

That's like double jeopardy for kids.

You're like, get out of jail, free card.

You got a miss trial, essentially.

You can never get paddled again.

You survived your hanging and now you're free.

Exactly.

That's exactly it.

The punishment was carried out.

But I wonder too, how much of it was just myth, like that.

Like, I don't know that I knew any kids that actually got hit by the paddle, but I always heard about it.

We always heard about it.

It was a definite threat that if you messed around, you would go to the principal and they would hit you with a paddle.

So weird.

So weird.

It's for your own good.

Yeah.

For your own good.

Yeah.

But we were funny because we were talking the other day.

It's like,

as we get older, now we're talking about old stuff.

We're talking about health stuff.

that we know we should do as we get older.

Right.

And we had a very, we'll talk about it in a second, but we had a specific thing that you and I both had to go through that was like one of those older things.

I've always said

one of the first red flags you get when you're getting older, and everyone should pay attention to this, is there will be a point in your life.

Don't know when it'll come.

There'll be a moment when you have to go to get down on the ground and then get back up from the ground.

And you'll just have to think about it.

Because up until that point in your life with kids, you just flop down on the ground, you sit on the ground, you sit cross-legged.

When it's time to go, you just jump up and run.

There's a point in your life, it happens with everybody, where you just got to think about how that's going to happen.

It doesn't mean it's going to be hard, but you are going to think about it.

You're going to make a plan.

You know, you can do it, and you can.

It's no problem.

But it's a process.

And it wasn't a process before.

That's all I'm saying.

And when it happens, it never stops happening.

Right.

That's it.

That's the line.

You've crossed it.

But we were talking about stuff we would never do.

Mine is very specific.

Even though you know it's healthy for you,

what won't you do?

Like, what's your thing that you won't do?

Even though you know it would be to your benefit.

So mine is kombucha, right?

Like I hear nothing but good things about kombucha.

Like it is, as it should be sold like in Harry Potter.

This is a witch's potion of like things that are good.

It's, I don't know, it's probiotics and it's like prebiotics and it's going to regulate your blood sugar spikes to help regulate your weight.

And you're going to be in better moods and your brain fog is going to disappear and you're going to be a nicer, more successful person who doesn't have to think about how you get up from the ground.

And it can do all these things for you.

And so every now and again, I think, I really, I should, I should get into kombucha.

I was not giving it a fair chance last time I did this.

And then I will drink two sips of a kombucha and go, no, I'm not doing that.

I'm just going to have to be a bad person who is unhealthy.

I'm showing her pictures of the, once you learn how kombucha is made, like people have these, what are they called?

SCOBI's.

As far as I'm concerned, it's a floating semi-sentient mushroom that lives in the liquid.

And you're drinking

siphoned off.

It's a perfect description of this thing.

Mushroom juice.

And that's what you're drinking.

It is a symbiotic culture of bacteria and yeast, a scoby.

It's disgusting.

It looks like something that should be in a Cronin brand.

Our scoby is starting P2.

Right.

And once you learn that's what you're drinking, you're drinking like

you're drinking like the drainage from that thing.

Oh, gross.

And it's like, it could be so good for you, but I just, I can't make myself like doing it.

It's so funny because

we were talking about this yesterday, but like just two days prior, we went to the Nairn Highland Games in Nairn, Scotland.

I just saw Nairn come up somewhere.

Like somebody famous is from Nairn.

Interesting.

Was it like James McAvoy or something like that?

Somebody, somebody was famous was from Nairn.

Not a big town in northern Scotland, but they have a really cool Highland games with a big carnival and all that stuff.

I think he's Glaswegian.

Is he Glaswegian?

Me.

Yeah, somebody's Glasgow.

But yeah, but we went to the Nairn Highland Games, which are our favorite Highland games of the year, not because of the Highland Games, but because it has the biggest funfair attached to those Highland games.

It's just like a big carnival.

And the weird thing about it is there's like five different types of rides, and then they just have five of each of those rides.

And so it's just this huge,

this huge like complex of the same ride over and over again, which...

Kids don't care if it's like this ride is the same as this ride is the same as this ride.

They're gonna go on all of of them, all of the same ride over and over and over.

So the kids love that one.

We had a really nice day out at Nairn.

Tilda Swinton and her children have resided in Nairn since 2007.

Dope.

And Charlie Chaplin used to visit Nairn on a regular basis.

Maybe that's the one I think I heard about.

Sorry to dox Tilda Swinton via Wikipedia.

Sorry, Miss Swinton.

And they call it her children.

Why would they call that out?

Who knows?

Why do that?

What P are they in?

Yeah, they're P X.2 or whatever.

That's what they're in.

But my thing is, and this goes back to the thing I was referencing earlier, is

as much as I know it would help me,

as much as I know, I don't think I can ever make myself stretch on a regular basis.

And I know it would make the quality of my life so much better.

I just can't.

I'm talking like the 15 minutes a day where you're supposed to sit on the goddamn floor and contort yourself and everything.

You don't do that either.

But no, I mean, well, so, I mean, here's question.

Are we talking about like stretching?

Do you stretch before or after workouts?

Like if you do a workout, are you stretching with that?

Yeah, I have to.

That I get because I got to work, I got to warm my shoulder up.

About the time I turned 40,

I feel like 50% of my time in the gym is warming up so I don't cripple myself by accident.

Sure.

No, I do most of my stretching after a workout.

Right.

Most of my other stretching, my...

After a workout.

Yeah.

Like after I run or something, I like to stretch the muscles as I cool down so that they don't like all tighten up and get like extra stiff.

But most of my other stretching, the stretching you're supposed to do, like, you know, put your elbows against the wall and then lean into it so that you don't get like a hunchback or things like that.

Most of my stretching in that regard involves like saving Instagram videos of all the stretching I should be doing and then never doing the stretching.

Right, right.

Right.

It's like I think, I think about the stretching, right?

I aspire to stretch, but I don't actually do the stretching.

I'm doing the stretching after the workout and it's mostly because I'm doing treadmill stuff.

It's like leg base.

And this came up this week for us because I was going to let me finish a thought really quickly.

When we were coming back from Nairn, the kombucha thing, you were buying kombucha.

I did.

I just

thought I really need to get into this.

Maybe I didn't give it a fair shake last time.

And I bought a raspberry mint kombucha because that sounds like, that sounds like a lovely soda drink.

And I'm going to have it.

I'm going to be healthy.

It's going to be great.

I'm going to be a better person because I drank this.

I had two sips and went, oh, that's right.

I don't do kombucha.

You were sitting at the case, the drink case, looking at these, like calling out all the different flavors.

I go, it's kombucha.

They're all, they're going to taste

like mushroom juice.

Yeah, it's all going to taste the same

when you get it.

I was in a phase where I liked kombucha, but yeah, I couldn't do it.

And I can't do the stretching.

But the stretching thing came up as well because we had this thing where you and I had to go through, we were working on some data remanagement of the house.

We were taking down our star link.

Yes.

And the only like Starlinks, you have to install them where, like, there's going to be nothing to get in the way of their view to the south, right?

They got to like, they got to see the sky.

And so they usually you install them high up on the house.

And so we had to climb out

this like attic window to this little decorative balcony where the Starlink is installed with all of its glorious, unobstructed view of the south.

And

so we had to go out this window that doesn't, it doesn't open all the way.

So you can- It's not meant for people.

No, right.

It's like, you know, it's meant for maybe someone in their 20s who can get like their head and one leg out the window at the same time.

Right.

No problem.

This is, this is someone who doesn't have to make a plan.

But part of the trouble with getting older is you remember being that 20-year-old who can get your head and your leg at the same time.

And so you look at that window size and you go, oh, that'll be no problem.

And so as I, but as I do it, I have to like start pulling things back in and like rotating a little bit and going, nope.

Shipping down the curtains.

Both of the legs are definitely going to have to go at the same time.

We're just going to have, I had to make a plan.

And getting out this window was awful.

And it shouldn't have been awful.

And it was like, it was dumb.

I was mad about it.

I was mad about being like not flexible and just like not as bendy and pretzely as I used to be.

And do you feel like you're being judged?

I felt like the window was judging me.

Yeah, yeah.

That you should be able to do this a lot easier.

I just said, screw it.

And I just went through head first and flopped out on the balcony.

It's like

a stomach high window basically a little bit higher chest high for me and then it's smaller than you could just like step through it with one leg and ease through so you gotta like you gotta make a plan so I just shot through it and in my mind I probably looked like a certain sole performer like jumping through a hoop I can tell you that's not what you look no it was like floppy fish I probably looked like ace ventura coming out of the uh back end of the rhino in that movie flopping on the ground

it was the efficient way to get through the window I just went through head first but no it was interesting because like as we were out on that balcony, we get an email from Starlink, who clearly knew we were up to no good, saying that they're changing the way they're doing

their

pause plans.

So I guess there's a roaming version of their service for people who have RVs or who go camping a lot.

And you can just turn the service on, take it with you, and then disconnect the service when you get back.

And that was like a pause feature they had.

It's all the same equipment, by the way.

They just have a different plan associated with it.

And the Roam one, you could pause.

So the equipment was more expensive, even though it's probably the same.

It probably has an unlock in it somewhere.

And then it was like 20 extra bucks a month, I want to say, for people with RVs, but then you could pause it whenever you wanted to with no contract.

Right.

So they've announced, um, as we're out on this balcony taking cars down, that they, uh, they've stopped doing that, but they're introducing a standby mode for both the roaming and the uh static residential, like fixed place.

Um, so have you ever looked at the one, by the way, that's for boats where you can put it on a boat?

Which would be a great application for Starlink.

No, it would be.

I heard about it, and I went, first of all, the technology for that's got to be pretty crazy because if you've got like a boat rocking, it's not like on a stable surface, that's a whole other level of like technology and probably gyroscopes and all sorts of crazy stuff.

Gyroscopes.

Interesting.

Okay.

Look, you want to gift?

We're going to gyroscope it.

Gyroscope.

And

so that's like a whole other level of service.

But they said that they're not going to do this pause anymore.

Instead, everyone.

The maritime version by the way is up to 10 grand a month that's a lot for uh gabe newles would be interesting that with a new yacht company

um

uh but instead they're doing this uh this standby mode where you can step down to like a five dollar a month plan where you have like low speed very basic service but you're still connected so it's like one of those it's like a just in case backup right or uh like this is this way you're not fully disconnecting it you're just going in standby But if something happens,

bam, you set up your Starlink and you've still got your access to the satellites, right?

You've got, you got internet of the stars.

It's come down in price.

Starlink Maritime for the global priority two terabyte level, which is their highest level, admittedly, is $2,000 a month.

Well, I'm glad to hear that, Bernie, because when I was shopping for my $10 million yacht, the monthly price of the high-speed internet was definitely a concern.

Well, now, luckily, you can take your Starlink and put on $5 a month for standby.

You know why they do that, right?

You were saying they announced this.

What I think happened is, guess what?

We canceled our service.

So now suddenly we get, we're made aware of this $5

stay on our sub count.

I personally, you know how I love my little fringe indicators for things.

This could be yet another indicator that we could be headed towards a Starlink or an overall SpaceX public offering for like an IPO, which Elon Musk typically tries to stay away from that stuff, but I think SpaceX would be a really compelling stock for people to be able to buy.

Right.

I mean, a lot of people would be interested in being like, I'm an investor in the space business.

That seems like something that people would want to invest in.

I think they would do very well with an IPO.

But a big part of that is, you know, you read this all the time with public companies.

They have to report like, oh, we lost so many subscribers this quarter or we gained so many.

If they can get you to pay five bucks a month to stay in their sub count, then guess what?

They're not losing subscribers.

You're still a subscriber.

Oh, right.

What's the big number for like tech stuff is what?

Monthly active users, right?

Then that way you stay a monthly active user.

You're an active subscriber.

There's a technical reason for this too, which hopefully they've corrected.

But for a while when they introduced the roaming one, people would turn it off for months.

But the only way that the hardware can get its updates would, of course, be through the active connection.

And if you've got it in a carrying case somewhere, People have done really cool projects with that online.

They put them in like Pelican cases and stuff.

It's really cool.

But if it's not online, then it can get far enough behind in versions of firmware that it just all of a sudden can't update and can't connect to the network anymore.

And there's nothing that you can do about it.

That's a huge problem to have when you bust it out after six months of dormancy and you're in the middle of nowhere.

And you didn't think to do that before you left.

Right.

And now you're just screwed.

Yeah.

You got nothing.

Always test that stuff before you go.

Always.

Always, man.

Especially if you're going to rely on it.

That's crazy to not have that when you need it.

Really crazy to have it.

But it's cool.

So I mean, it is 60 60 bucks a year, but when you're coming down from like 100 bucks a month, that's still like, it seems like a good, safe thing to have in your back pocket.

Right.

It's like, and especially for a lot of the people that would, that would have Starlink being very remote, it's probably good to just have that backup.

Like we have a battery backup system here and we've learned, you know, we can run the Starlink off of that.

If something goes down with the fiber network that's out there, we can't really do anything about that, but at least we know we can power up our Starlink, turn it back on, and we'll be able to get to the internet, get to the rest of the world.

We'd be able to find out what just happened.

Yeah, I'm doing that too.

Cause now it's like, now that we have fiber, you've seen me doing it.

I'm running speed tests.

Oh, you're compulsively speed testing.

You'll just sit down and you'll just run a speed test and go, yeah.

It is so hard not to try to maximize.

Like if you have like a gigabit of internet, right?

But you're pulling like 300 megabits in a room and you know you could be pulling 800 if you could just like get in the walls and pull a cable into that room versus going over Wi-Fi.

It's good.

I got to tell myself it's good enough.

I don't need to maximize.

Bernie, it's the kitchen, okay?

It's the

kitchen.

300 megabits in the kitchen is fantastic.

By the way, the kitchen is 120 megabits.

Thank you very much.

But it's a totally fun.

Once again, that's totally fine.

But I know I could just make it a little bit better.

I got to learn to leave it.

Just leave it good enough.

Bernie?

Good enough.

Bernie, this is your own saying.

Perfect is the enemy of good.

Perfect is the enemy of good.

Don't let the goal of perfect stop you from doing something good.

It still could be so much better.

Our fiber here is, admittedly, we're probably way lower density.

It's so much better than it is at Austin.

It really is.

I'm sure it's the density.

It really is.

I think we have a gigabit there and we pull like 80 down and 50 up.

And here we're killing that.

Although, I will say that like one of the best things that I've heard as someone who knows very little about this total layman is that the guy who was like installing the fiber goes, oh, you must be really close to the prism.

It had something to do with like data loss or something and i was like that sounds great right i have no idea what that means i want to be i want to be as close to the prism as possible i want to like go up to it i'm going to suck it all in and then my walls are going to bow it was always my dream as a kid to be close to the prism

and i've achieved that in life i got it

how do you know you made it ipos and stuff like that uh i gotta point out the hong kong um

excuse me the hong kong company that owns and produces laboo boos

is up 13

is that that's all?

That's on honestly, that's all.

I don't know over what range that is.

I'm not looking at it.

I don't even know what the name of the company is.

I don't care.

It's just one of those funny things.

That is 100% not financial advice.

If they are having a big boost because of laboo boos, come on.

How long is that going to last?

Right.

Make me eat my words.

Come back and play this clip to me like six months from now when I should have invested in whatever laboo boo ink.

Look, Bernie, I don't know.

I'm pretty sure I saw a video of Lisa from Black Pink wearing a custom laboo boo on stage in the London show.

So I'm just saying that they could be here for the long haul.

As far as I'm concerned, that's peaked labooboo right there.

Everything you just said.

Laboo Boo just peaked.

Go buy the top, everybody.

Sell financial advice.

So, all right, I would like to say a big thank you to those who were also going the distance.

Kevin Taylor and Big Worthless, thank you both so much for sponsoring this episode of our show at patreon.com slash morning somewhere.

Lisa is very appreciative.

Quick little anecdote, business anecdote before we go.

I worked with somebody who worked prior to working at Wooster Teeth.

They had worked at a cardboard box company, a company that made cardboard boxes.

That is a reliable industry.

Cardboard boxes never go on.

You get a custom size for a product that you're going to be shipping a lot of, and it makes sense to make your own size, specific cardboard box.

They could do that for you.

They could sell you standard sizes.

I don't know what those are.

I'm sure they exist.

They were a cardboard box company, happy little business.

Then some point in the 90s, Somebody came into work and said, I've heard about this thing called Pogs.

Oh, my little brother did Pogs.

Cardboard discs that people are collecting and it's supposed to be the next big thing.

So they started making Pogs.

Then all of a sudden the Pog market took over their business and they could not make enough POGs and could not fulfill enough orders for cardboard discs.

They started leaning all into that.

This person said that company, they set a record for sales every single day for three months.

Every day they came in was a new all-time record for sales.

On Friday, Friday, they hit an all-time sales record.

On Monday, they never got another order.

Yeah.

That's what happened to their company.

They went all in on this thing and it was a fad.

And when the fad was over, it was over immediately.

Immediately.

For them.

Immediately.

Falling off a cliff.

I remember pugs were everywhere and then no one cared.

Yeah, but most people, depending on when you grew up, you might not even be aware of them.

They're like Orbies to me.

When the fuck did those things come into existence?

Everybody talks about this thing.

That's a Bernstein-like Mandela effect thing for me.

Those never existed, and people are now talking about them nostalgically.

When did anyone have Orbies as a kid?

What year was that?

That was somewhere between the Pichu and the electrician.

Yeah, exactly.

I've got kids all across this.

I was a kid, and then I had kids all through this process.

Those are made up, I swear.

All right, well, that does it for us today.

August 20th, 2025.

We will be back to talk to you tomorrow.

We hope you will be here as well.

Bye, everybody.