2025.08.18: Made For The Stage

He's not my boyfriend.

We've actually just been seeing each other for a couple of years.

Just to be clear, I'm not into people's emotions.

Yeah, no, totally.

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Morning to you, wherever you are, because it is Morlike Subway!

For August 18th, 2025, my name is Bernie Burns sitting right over there.

She's happy that it's Monday.

Say hi to Ashley, everybody.

Happy Monday, everybody.

We have a big deal going on this week.

Finn is going back to school this week.

I know.

It's a big week.

There's always the last-minute scramble, even though P1, like going into school for the first time and you're trying to be like,

what kind of gym shoes?

What kind of indoor shoes?

There's always a panic around that.

And we had the additional panic of, I don't know how to do a uniform.

So that last year was a big learning.

I thought this year would be easy.

There is still a scramble.

I love the uniforms, by the way.

Although it does, I have to admit, it does make a whole extra set of clothes, right?

Yes, because then he comes home from school and then we change him into regular daytime clothes, as we call them.

And

so he ends up with twice as much laundry.

The nice thing is with kids is they go through clothes a lot, but you're not super precious about it.

Precious isn't even the right word.

Like everyone has in their wardrobe at home or their closet, I assume unless you're like a godlike being, you probably have stuff that you haven't worn in a year or two years or maybe even longer, maybe like five or six years.

But for some reason, you're like,

if my body changes a little bit, I'll go back to that or whatever.

Half of my closet is like, I'm going to get to this weight or like I'm going to get in this shape.

And then these clothes are going to fit.

So I'm not going to get rid of them because I'm definitely going to do that.

I feel like if I get rid of the clothes, I'm giving up.

They're like your clothes on a theoretical level, right?

Yes.

I had, there was like, I had one pair of I have shirts like that that I don't even like.

But you can't get rid of them.

Because you're admitting defeat if you do.

Like if I, you know, if I, if I change a little bit and I go to that size, then I'm going to want shirts that size.

So I should probably hold on to that.

Right.

Even if you don't like that shirt, you're going to need a shirt to wear.

With kids, you don't do that.

And I think it's a good way to live.

I used to have this thing for a long time where it's like, I would only have at most,

at most,

10 days to 14 days of clothes so that was like and that includes underwear and everything so i had two weeks of clothes so uh that doesn't mean i had like 14 different outfits but enough to like stretch me out to get me to two weeks you had you had what we call a capsule wardrobe it's all in the marketing bernie it's all in the marketing right it was all just like an identity wardrobe but then i knew i could do like when i was in college i would look up and go oh i have like a month of laundry to do or something like that just you know i'd have a mountain right like you it would go like in a pile in the corner and then at some point, you would have to excavate all of that stuff and just throw it all in the wash.

And then probably forget about it for two days so it mildews and then have to run it again.

I have a mantra that I use.

Have you ever heard me say this?

Go ahead.

Have you ever heard me say let the machines do the work?

Yes.

Have you heard me say that?

Yes.

Because if you go too long and you don't have enough time for the machine to do the hour for the dishes, then the machine doesn't do it.

And you have to do it.

Like you have to hand wash all the dishes because you need dishes for a meal or something like that.

So let the machines do the work.

Tell myself that.

Hold on a second.

It takes five minutes to let the machines do the work or it takes me God knows how long.

Two hours.

On the other hand, I remember there was a point in my life where I'm living alone and by the time I had a dishwasher full of dishes to run, I had no dishes and I was having to pull things out of the dishwasher and hand wash them anyway.

So really the machine was not doing any work for me.

The same thing applies to

other parts of my life of letting the machines do the work because there's a lot of times where I do things like five or six times.

And I know if I can just take a moment and learn the app or learn how to script something in it, I can just automate that stuff away.

And it's crazy when you do things over and over again and you think, wait a second, I'm going to stop and I'm going to figure out how to use this device to automate what I'm doing.

And then it's easy street from that point on.

And you're mad at yourself when I'm doing it.

But it makes me so mad.

As soon as that hurdle goes away, that took took me five minutes to put in, like it took me five minutes to solve this issue, to learn how to do the thing, how to set it up, how to schedule whatever, then I'm mad because I immediately think of all the times that I've been doing it just because I couldn't spare the extra five minutes.

And then you go and you look in the menus and you find out, oh, what I've been doing every single day for 10 minutes is a toggle switch.

And I can't just turn it off.

It was that easy the whole time.

And that's it.

That's it.

But we had a good,

had a good Patreon discussion.

I should stop saying Patreon, a good sponsor discussion this weekend.

Although I say good sponsor discussion, we're running into a deficit right now where we're trying to fix, we're trying to automate the process by which we move content over from the

Patreon over to the Rooster Teeth website.

So there's a little bit of a transition period here.

It's taken a little bit longer than we expected.

So apologies for that.

But up on the Patreon this weekend and soon, probably today will be up on the roosterteeth.com

is the discussion I had with two people, Ashley.

It was one of the people

who broke the rules.

Broke the rules.

It was had Liam and Mario, two of the guys in the group that's here for a couple of weeks, just staying at the house.

Some of Teddy's crew, basically.

Going on adventures.

And I just said, me and lads.

It was a learning experience.

We didn't cover that in the discussion, but I was showing them like how to use the mixer.

And then they came up and watched me edit for a little while.

And I said, here's how to do it.

And they were, they're like, cool.

And one of the kids, who's a little bit younger, I say kids, they're all over 18.

One of them had done a film course before and has done some film studies.

And like when he saw the audio stuff, he goes, that's way easier than the first thing.

That's super fucking easy, man.

You're removing the entire visual element and then it becomes so much easier.

Which is the problem that we're having with the

sponsor content for this weekend is that the platform that we're using to serve sponsor videos on roosterteeth.com is it doesn't allow just audio only clips.

So I've got to render out like a thumbnail clip.

The video and it's a whole thing.

The one I did for yesterday was so dirty.

You're gonna laugh when you see it's all blurry and like blown out.

It's like it's scaled up from a thumbnail-sized resolution.

But that's the fix we have right now, you know.

And what we're doing is we have all these moving parts, and they're all

together.

So then what we'll do is we'll spend five minutes, like three months down the line, getting it all sorted and then go, oh, this would have been way easier to do the whole time.

Should, I don't know if we should talk about this in the air, but we should make plans.

Do you know what later this month is?

hold on.

It's August.

Later this month is

Finn's birthday.

Right.

I mean, yeah, that's I'm talking high-priority stuff.

Okay, what's later this month?

Later this month, we have two huge milestones for this podcast.

Later this month, for the Morning Summer podcast, we are going to hit

500 episodes of the show.

Speedrun complete.

500 episodes.

That I'm pretty sure puts me well over the number of times I've been on this podcast versus any other podcast, including the Russian G podcast.

So maybe we'll try to figure out.

We're going to do something special for the 500th episode.

But I think more importantly, Ashley.

More importantly.

This is big.

This is big.

I checked the statistics on our coffee machine.

Are we going to line up?

On our update of coffee math.

We're about to hit 10,000 coffees.

Okay, so that's the, which is the bigger party?

500 episodes or 10,000 coffees?

Well, we've made so much money on 10,000 coffees.

We're going to retire from that.

That'll be great.

Maybe we could retire from this podcast and we put ads on it or something.

By the way, I was looking at, I had to order some more coffee beans.

And so I went into the thing and it goes, you've ordered this 37 times.

And I was like, boy, am I glad we don't calculate that in our coffee map.

37 times?

Yeah, we've ordered 37 sets of six bags.

Oh, so because the coffee is something we don't get with groceries, we do get that ordered.

Like we get that from, we get that from.

It's a small indie roaster

called Hamason.

We get Starbucks via Amazon because we want to be like celestial level basic bitch.

That's what we want.

Like the only thing that I can think of that would be more basic is like Folgers?

No.

Are you kidding me?

Basic bitch means you...

Doesn't basic bitch mean like you go for like the trendy thing that's supposed to be like, oh my god, this is amazing.

But it's actually just shitty, like,

I guess I would say, yeah, it's like the coldest take, right?

Like, no one, no one's arguing, like, that is, that is not controversial.

You're not surprising anyone when you're like, I went to Starbucks and my Uggs.

And everyone's going to go, you went what?

Right.

It's not, it's not a surprise ever.

The dude who's drinking like you going to Starbucks in your Uggs may be slightly surprising.

Oh man, I get all the looks when I go to my Uggs.

Or when you win my Uggs.

I had the same thing I have, and I'm going to complain about it every time it happens.

You talk about a Venn diagram that has such a slim overlap, and I would be the only person in the world this affects.

The Starbucks app in the US is different than the Starbucks app in the UK.

Why?

Because fuck you, that's why.

And apparently, I guess I'll have to get age verified to get my coffee pretty soon.

But

the apps.

on the iPhone, you can't rename the goddamn icons because why would you be in charge of that?

The Starbucks app in the UK and the Starbucks app in the US are both called Starbucks.

And then they're slightly different colors of green from each other.

And so yesterday I was like, I'm going to get this right.

Did you just spend the five minutes doing it?

And then now it's like easy peasy?

It's in a, the problem is search is the best way to find stuff when you get, how many apps do you think you have on your iPhone?

Oh, God, too many.

And probably way too many.

And it's probably more than you even estimate.

I have enough that most of them have uninstalled themselves.

What?

Yeah.

Oh, you know how your apps will like, after a while, they leave the icon and everything there in your menus and stuff.

But if it's been a certain amount of time, I guess this is an option that you can turn on or off.

I had mine turned on.

The app will, after a while, just uninstall itself.

And the next time you go to tap the icon and open the app, it basically has to reinstall.

While we're on the topic, somebody posted Gruff JM.

of our subreddit posted in the subreddit an article that says the UK government is now suggesting you delete your old emails to save water during a drought.

I saw that.

I saw that they're, so they're asking this because it saves

basically data at power centers.

Have they considered, I don't know, an entire industry where the entire, the meme is for every prompt, you are basically using a liter of water?

Have they considered that there's an entire AI burgeoning industry that they could be regulating instead of asking you to delete emails?

Come on.

Well, that was actually the reverse of the discussion we had about this because I was saying everyone analyzes crypto and AI as to how much energy it uses, but nobody ever really talks about that layer that lives right above us that we all just like scroll endlessly on.

It's like that takes some level of energy.

And if,

what, three-quarters of the world is doing that at all points in time, that's a huge multiplier.

So I tried to find it out.

The best I could find out, the stat I always hear with cryptocurrency is that cryptocurrency uses yearly the energy electricity equivalent of the country of Denmark.

They love Denmark for these stats.

Isn't why?

Yeah.

What was about Denmark?

What did Denmark do to you guys?

The layer of stuff that we all engage with on a regular basis,

the best estimate I could find for it is that it currently uses 25% of all the global energy.

That is what it is.

That goes into that.

Like the internet costs 25%.

of all the global energy.

That's a lot.

And that's the, what is it, the internet of things, right?

So that's all the interconnected stuff.

So your smart fridge that can play Skyrim or whatever, all your hue light bulbs, everything that like requires some form of connectivity.

Your Instagram app, your Steam Games that update.

We always try to come up with these fringe things like that people don't have like a Samsung fridge.

You're calling Hue Bulbs fringe.

Yeah.

Yes, I am.

You know those things are still like 60 bucks for a light bulb?

Wildly expensive.

Get over yourself, Phillips.

60 bucks.

Because they can throw you a rave.

Right.

I mean, what are you, you're not using those features.

I don't know.

Maybe you go in some people's houses and they do the color color changing light bulbs on a regular basis.

That's, in some cases, literally a red flag.

Get the fuck out of the kids' house.

Although I have seen now, there are those light bars that go sort of behind TVs that then face the walls so the lights reflect off the wall.

And it'll do color matching for whatever you're watching.

So the color's splashing across your entire wall and it's supposed to be more.

immersive.

Yeah, good for you.

You sound really exciting.

Meanwhile, you're still typing out your full email address every time because you don't have a shortcut for it on your phone.

All right.

Well, I'm going to go ahead and take that out of the shop.

That's one of the best things you do.

I said this on the Roosevelt podcast years ago.

For your email address that you type in all the time, or even your primary home address,

on iPhone at least, you can put shortcuts in.

Like if I type in,

like if I type in not B-U-R, because that's my first name, but I have like a BBB and that does my primary email address.

And so I'd never have to type in my email address ever again, even in places where there's no autocomplete or anything like that.

And then if I start to type my address, I assume my actual, you know, five digits that I'm using for my address, that's not going to be a really weird coincidence to type that number in for anything else.

As soon as I type that number, it just auto-completes the rest of my address.

Yeah.

See, jokes on you, because I didn't put anything in my shortcuts.

I just used some of the, uh, some of Denmark's power to, I guess, have my phone learn that if I type a certain number of letters in a combination, I'm probably going to complete that with my email address.

Right.

That's what I'm doing too.

Isn't that what?

What do you mean you learned?

I didn't set up like a BBB, right?

It just knows if I type these first letters, the rest of what I'm going to type is going to be my email.

Yeah, with your email, that makes a little bit of sense, though, right?

Because you don't type, like your email is weird.

Oh, I guess that's right.

You have your like early 2000s, like hullabaloo killer 96 or whatever.

That's Ashley's email address at Gmail.

Shout out to Hullabaloo, Killa.

So So it's like once you start to type.

That's my first handle.

I was early enough that I actually got my name for some things on my email.

And so it's like, if I, I don't want it to automatically complete when I start typing my name.

I don't want to do my email address every time.

You know what I'm saying?

Shout out to Hullabaloo.

No, but that's the thing is like I am still using the, I've got my emails from like the year, I don't know if.

whenever Gmail, the year, the year Gmail started probably.

Didn't it start as a prank?

Gmail?

Yeah, Gmail might have been an

drive.

One of them started as an April Fool's prank.

Well, greatest prank ever, aside from Pokemon Go.

But I'm using so much of Denmark's power just to store my emails from 2000 in case I want to trip down memory lane, you know?

I might.

Google, Gmail was the best April Fool's Day joke of all time.

Google is one of many companies that loves to join in on the April Fool's Day fun every year.

This is from howtogeek.com.

Gmail was kept secret even from people within Google for a while for a while.

However, by early 2004, most people within the company were using it.

Gmail was finally announced to the public on April 1st, 2004.

Google made it clear that Gmail was in beta, even sticking beta on the logo.

Naturally, some people thought the announcement was a joke.

At the time, Google was only known for search and ads.

And so I do remember that.

I remember when they announced it, people are like, that's not fucking real, guys.

They're not doing,

did they say a gigabyte of storage?

It was, or it was something that was really high for you.

Yeah, at the time, it was like, no one would ever use that.

You're not going to give us or a hundred megabytes of storage.

You're not doing that.

Yeah.

And now I get like a weekly report going, you're at 95, 94% of your storage.

Would you like to buy some more?

I was recently with someone who lives in Scotland and it's not what I would call tech savvy.

And I was watching them try to show me a photo on their phone.

The number of alerts that they had to clear every time they tried to get into their photo gallery was amazing.

It was like six alerts telling them they're low on storage for this, low on that.

Do you want to upgrade?

Here we go.

This hasn't synced.

We don't.

And they just, they knew where to tap my muscle brand.

To go through.

I'm like, dude, just pay the dollar a month, dude.

Take the five minutes and sort this out.

Right.

Right.

Find the way to archive it.

And I saw a number.

I'm not trying to snoop or anything, but I saw a number.

Number of photos in their photo gallery:

313 in their photo gallery.

What?

I'm like, what?

How long have you had the phone?

A day?

I was, I was.

Also, how big are those photos if they've used up your storage?

I was comparing phones with a friend and we were going through trying to figure out how many photos we each had on our phone.

And I was like, oh, yeah.

So I've got here, here we go.

I've got like 33,000 photos.

And they were like,

what?

And I was like, yeah, what do you have?

They're like, they had like 3,000.

And I was like, I was like, yeah, you don't have kids.

Right, right, right.

You don't have kids.

Like,

times have changed.

I know there was a time where everyone had a film roll roll and you would take like two rolls of film with your camera on a vacation with your family.

And then over the course of this entire week vacation, you would take maybe the 50 photos.

Maybe you even have some room left over on the roll.

Now, those 50 photos are all live photos of the kid with the funny hair mohawk in the shower.

Right.

It's like I will go through 50 in seconds.

Seconds, literally, just

as fast as you can hit that button.

And sometimes not even intentionally, because you do, you hold it down and it just goes for you.

Have you ever taken?

Because we used to be at conventions and things, and I would help take photos.

Like somebody would want a photo with like Gavin.

And I go, I'll take the photo.

Here, give me the photo.

Give me the camera.

And I didn't go to do it.

Some people have it to where when you touch that button, it goes, have you heard that?

Like it, it takes like 80 photos at one time.

Or if you hold down the button, it keeps going.

It's like, what are you?

The paparazzi?

That's fucking insane, dude.

That's insane.

How do you navigate that stuff?

It's important, Bernie, for the micro expressions.

There was somebody too, not going to name names, but they were talking about how they would have a, they were

an influencer and they talked about how they casually mentioned to me that they were like, they had a selfie session.

And I said,

what does that mean?

What does it mean selfie session?

She's, you know, I go and I take like a bunch of photos and I try different angles and everything.

And I'm just getting, trying to get the right selfie.

And I just go and it takes a while.

It's like, you know, for the Daily Post or whatever.

I was like, how many photos do you think you take in a selfie session?

And she goes,

150, 200.

Oh my God.

And I said, why?

She goes, yeah, no, it's She goes, and by the end of it, I'm just exhausted.

She goes, how do you do it?

I go, well, first of all, I don't.

But if I ever do, it's just a photo and I can see myself in the screen.

And I go, okay, that's good.

And that's it.

And it's one.

And she's like, she was like, what?

How do you live?

I wondered though, if you take like 200 photos, is it like

when you look through those trying to find the best one, like what's the one that's going up on the story today?

Is it like saying a word too many times where it just, it stops making sense in and of itself?

Would you just become a shape to yourself?

It's got to be weird.

No, I think I remember a period in my life

like early, like in my 20s, early 20s, where I really liked my own face.

Like it was,

and I just like, it's not that I don't like my own face or I have a body dysmorphia or anything like that.

I just am not like I was at that age.

Like I really liked my own face.

Did you not go through a face like that?

No, I'm sure that I did, but my thing is, like, I would always look at the camera and go, eh.

Well, that's if you're not posed or something like that, right?

Yeah, but even if I am posed, I'm like, no, I don't like that.

No, that's, that's, that's gross.

I should fix that.

Man, that sucks.

I think some people hold on to that.

Like, some people just have that inherently in them.

I talked about this on the Patreon discussion this weekend.

There's this video, and I showed it to you, of Chapel Roan.

And it's Chapel Roan performing at what looks like a university mall, like a university quad or something like that.

And she's just out there playing Pink Pony Club on a keyboard.

She's wearing like a bandana dress, you know, the bandana style.

Yeah, like

a really pretty, just very casual red country dress.

Right, a country dress.

That's the way I would put it too.

And she's playing Pink Pony Club song.

Sounds exactly like it does now.

Her voice sounds amazing and everything.

And there's like 50 people sitting there.

They've got their picnic blankets out.

They're just like having a day.

Doing that head-notting thing.

You know what I mean?

Like that, that white-fashioned thing of like, hey, I'm like, I know how to enjoy music, but I'm also kind of playing it cool.

Like, you know, this is enough movement to where no one will think I'm being weird.

This is just enough, right?

You know, you know, you guys know what I'm talking about.

Like,

this is as far as I go without exposing that I have no rhythm.

Yeah.

The feeling of like, yeah, there's a music show going on, but everybody's looking at me to make sure that I'm in dancing.

I'm enjoying it properly.

Y'all know what I'm talking about.

Y'all know.

Then it cuts from her when she reaches the chorus.

It cuts to her at Lollapalooza.

And it's 100,000 people.

She cuts from her playing for 50 people and then playing for 100,000 people.

That's, and it's, it's what, like a year apart, basically, is might as well be is what the video says.

It's just like, it's that, it was that dramatic.

So it really put into perspective for me why

we were not unusual that the first time we heard of her was when she broke this crowd record because it was such a meteoric rise.

Incredibly fast.

And it's also, it's like she goes from a person playing on the grassy hill at a college, you know, just like a busker with her keyboard, to being essentially what looks like the reincarnation of Freddie Mercury.

That's what she looks like.

Now, I've heard her described as a Gen Z's lady gaga.

Very, very much like David Bowie.

Yes, very, very visual performer.

I'm just saying, with her, like in front of that crowd, I definitely get vibes of like Freddie Mercury.

What was that?

Live Aid or Farm Aid?

Yeah, when he was up there.

And

she's just like, and she looks completely different.

She looks like Ace Freely from Kiss as well, the way she's dressed her lady Gaga.

She's in full makeup and this crazy outfit and all the people in her band are dressed that way.

The point I'm getting to is this.

There's some people that when they experience that, they're like, oh, this is right.

Like they're made for that.

And it never wears thin for them.

Like being in front of a crowd.

of a hundred thousand people.

That's why you hear about like rockers that go in the case of like Ozzy Osborne performing right up until they die, literally.

And then seven days later, after his final performance, he's done.

Some people, that's in them to be in front of like stuff that big, but not everyone is like that.

I can tell you that.

You always hear about like character actors.

Terrence Stamp just died.

He's not a character actor, but there's actors you hear that have like these big careers, but they've never been leading people.

He's like, oh, it's too bad for them.

It's like, it's not really.

Not everybody wants that.

Not everybody wants that gigantic crowd thing.

And the people who do, you can tell.

You can tell when they want it.

And they're like, I need this and I want this.

And there's also also a big difference between wanting it and being able to handle it i think i think a lot of us like the fantasy or the idea of like a hundred thousand people like cheering your name and being there for you like that's it's an intoxicating fantasy right but a hundred thousand people actually being there with every eye on you terrifying absolutely like when the reality of that fantasy would be awful and also chapter one is an interesting one to bring up on this because she's also the other side of it too everyone talks about like the being on stage for the big performance, but that's also encapsulated.

But then everything else that goes with it, like the people who have to get dressed up to go pick up the Starbucks that they ordered from the wrong app on their iPhone.

The people that have to do that.

There's people who live for that too.

And she actually suffered a lot from that where she was like publicly saying stuff like.

This is my off time.

Leave me alone.

Leave me alone.

I don't have to take a photo with you when I'm not, you know, working and I'm not working right now.

I'm not going to be photo ready and things like that.

Like, trust me, you'll know when I'm working because I will look like a wrestling legend.

But the point is there, there are some people that really genuinely aspire to that when they get it.

They really find out this is exactly what it is.

This is right.

But there's a lot of people I know that don't.

They're like, this is way too fucking much.

Well, you know what she did that the rest of us didn't, Bernie?

She took the five minutes to figure out a shortcut.

She took the five minutes.

She automated everything.

Listen, it also goes to say, it's one of the things I've always envied about music.

It's the same fucking song.

You know what I mean?

It's the same fucking song.

If we came on here on this podcast and I uttered uttered a sentence that I said 20 fucking years ago, people would be like, how did this happen?

Race to the comments.

Here's the clip from 20 years ago.

I know, because I was listening to the podcast in its entirety through the last month and I heard this sentence a week ago.

This is unbearable.

I cannot stand this.

Whereas people who write a fucking album, they just sing the same goddamn 10 songs over and over and over again.

And everybody fucking loves it.

And that can actually be a source of frustration for the bands as well because they're like, we've been making new stuff.

We really like our new stuff.

We're super proud of our new stuff.

Can we play our new stuff?

And everyone's like, play Wonder Wall.

Play Freebird.

Yeah.

No, yeah, it's crazy.

I never,

it just shows the power of music, man.

If you get a good tune and goddamn, she's got a bunch of them.

You can really just like, you can just ride that for fucking ever, dude.

But yeah, Terrence Stamp died.

I grew up seeing Terrence Stamp and didn't realize it.

The first time I'd be curious about that.

Was he that guy for you?

No, not even.

What happened was he was cast in

one of the prequels for Star Wars.

Let's call it Phantom Menace.

I think it is Phantom Menace.

And

someone said he plays Chancellor Valorum.

I don't even remember if that's the name.

I think it is.

And they go, they got Terrence Stamp to play this guy.

uh in the republic and i go who's terren stamp and they go dude that's general zod from superman Superman 2.

And I was like, holy cow, this guy's like a super famous actor that I just wasn't aware of, you know, at the time and everything.

Now I realize like looking back, those are like the two biggest parts that Terrence Stamp that I would ever recognize him for, except for maybe the limey or something.

Okay, no.

Tremendous actor.

This is, it looks like, so he has been acting, he's got...

credits going back to 1960 uh but scrolling through these bernie you're already missing like a a huge one hit me let's honor our dead friend here terrence stamp priscilla queen of the desert baby.

What are you playing in Priscilla Queen of the Desert?

He played.

Oh, no, I've scrolled past it.

Let me get back to it.

You know who else is in that?

That's a weird one.

A lot of people.

Hugo Weaving, Agent Smith.

And he's gorgeous.

Yeah.

Or Elrond, if you're a dork.

He was Bernadette in The Adventures of Priscilla Queen of the Desert.

That cleared it up.

Thanks.

Okay.

No one's wondering who played Bernadette and Priscilla Queen of the Desert.

I was like, oh, I'm not sure if I can do it for also starring Guy Pierce and his cheekbones.

Didn't know that.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Oh, you got to go back and watch that movie.

It's just not fair how beautiful everyone was in that movie.

You know, it is one of those things, too.

Guy Pierce is an actor that I really love.

I would like to see him in more stuff.

Yeah, I feel like, I mean, I was really excited because then we saw him in,

was he, he was in.

He played a villain in a comic book movie, too.

He was in Iron Man 3.3, the one with all the suits?

Yeah, he was the bad guy in that.

Do you ever get a little bit sad when one of your favorite actors is a villain role in one of those films because you know that they're that's it like it's gonna be a one-and-done Yeah, but that sucks I mean, that's not the way they are in the comics like that's the Marvel thing that they set up where they always kill the villain, you know what Maybe that's the one of those medium differences like songs versus podcasts, right?

Where the comic people would be upset if you didn't bring them back because they really like them and in comic magic you can do anything but the movie people are like no you killed them already the canon is is here well they have the multiverse can do whatever the fuck they want i guess that's true i guess nobody do you want to come back?

If one villain could come back from the MCU, by the way, I threw shade on the MCU.

I think the actual Tim Burton Batman movies are the one that established that because they even killed the Joker Penguin Catwoman.

They went through everybody.

It was like that series established that if you have a franchise, you have the main character hero, and then the movie is really about who is the villain that time.

Right, that one time.

And that was the Tim Burton movie, Batman movies that I think did that.

In fact, you associate those movies with whoever's the villain, like, you know, Mr.

Freeze or Catwoman or Joker, you know, or Too-Face.

let's be easy oh no i found it okay i was gonna say let's make it easy and bring back thanos for a buddy comedy with dr doom but no i think i would like to see more of michael b jordan's character oh um from black panther controversial take calling him a villain i that's it that's just it that's just it it's one of those things where it's like he was playing the i guess we'll call it the antagonist of the film but there were a lot of things where i'm like i don't know you're kind of making a lot of sense i don't like the way you're going about things necessarily,

but it's a good deal.

But yeah, where it's like you, you get it, and that's always really compelling.

Did like the whole like Captain America, U.S.

Agent, Iron Man, Iron Monger.

It did the flip sides of the same coin better than anyone has done it so far, I think.

I agree.

Even better than I would say Batman and Joker were in the Dark Knight movies, the Christopher Nolan movies.

Yeah, speaking of which, you were telling me earlier that there are some people that are worried about

the James Gunn DCU, that it's it's going to have a much more consistently lighter tone, and that people are grieving the loss of the gritty dark DCU.

So that's out on streaming right now.

So you and I are now, here we are.

We got to make our choice.

Where the hell are we going to buy Superman?

Because I want to buy Superman and watch it with Finn.

I know which parts I got to turn him away from.

The engineer is kind of unnecessarily scary in that movie.

Can I tell you the character that I was not expecting to like in that movie?

I didn't know anything about them.

I had no expectations.

And I came out going, I love this character.

It was Mr.

Terrific.

Yeah, yeah, I never, I have no idea who that character is, never heard of him before I saw the trailer for Superman.

I had to go look him up.

I thought he was awesome.

We played, uh, even the trailer.

I was like, I don't really, like, I don't know, it's another superhero.

What is this?

I don't really know.

And so I just went in going, I guess we'll see.

And loved him.

So that's actually, when I, when I said people are worried about it, it's not, that wasn't anything that I, that's my own personal opinion because there's a lot of clips now being released for Superman.

And one, without spoiling anything, is a fight scene that Mr.

Terrific has on the beach, like a solo fight scene.

And it's a distinct choice that they made for that fight scene.

I love it.

There's been people who have re-edited that scene to have different music and make it more epic instead of more like whimsical and lighthearted.

And people are like, this is so cool.

And I was thinking, oh, man,

people who don't like the whimsical style of James Gunn and like Guardians of the Galaxy and the first Superman, I think they might have a hard time with the DCU.

I'm all for it.

I'm bringing on.

I'd actually kind of grown tired of it a little bit by Guardians 3, but Superman just shows you can apply that to a different character and it's completely fresh and new and awesome.

Yeah, well, I think the trick also is going to be the moderation, right?

Is if you go too far in that direction and every, then everyone is trying to, like every movie is trying to one up

the one before it.

You thinking about something in particular?

I am.

I'm specifically thinking of like love and thunder was trying to one up ragnarok uh which i i don't i wouldn't say that ragnarok um owes its style to guardians of the galaxy but guardians of the galaxy is where i would say more of the zany elements of the mcu started coming to the fore right is when that came out and was a success uh and so

you know you could if you start like escalating every time to be like more lighthearted and whimsical and zany than the one that came before you're gonna have problems That said, he stuck the landing on all the movies so far.

So I'm going to have faith.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So far, so good.

And I'm looking forward to it.

The only one I still

got to figure out is how they're going to do Batman.

I'm just curious how they're going to do it.

You know, that's where they could piss off a lot of like really angsty dudes.

Well, I guess for those guys, they're still the Batman.

The Batman.

Right, right.

They have the Pattinson is Robert Pattinson is me.

One of the best Batman.

I think Ben Affleck probably looks the best as Batman, I got to say, but I think Robert Pattinson might be my favorite performance, even after just one movie.

Do you remember how much people clowned on the Ben Affleck casting for Batman?

And Pattinson, too.

The Twilight Kid?

Yeah.

They were like,

yeah.

He breaks.

But they, yeah, have yet to miss on that.

Also, so weird to me that

what's his name?

Christian Bale is like, is Batman.

That just seems like...

We just kind of accept that he made that choice because it exists, you know, and it's like he worked out well.

I would have never in a million years picked him to play Batman.

No, after, after, was it Patrick Bateman?

You know, that he's got that like the weird billionaire in him

and also a little psycho.

Yeah, yeah.

I guess at this point, too, anybody could be in one of these superhero movies, and it would be acceptable.

I guess.

I guess so.

I mean, as long as we figure it out,

we're going to need to get our shortcuts sorted.

We're going to need to get really good at stuff.

Well, you didn't ask me who I'm looking forward to seeing as a villain coming back in the MCU.

My choice is really easy.

Ultron, dude.

I was so upset when Ultron didn't make it out of Avengers 2.

And

I just love that character.

And he's like a constant thorn in the side of everybody in the comics.

And it's just like, what a waste to not have Ultron around.

Is it spoilers to discuss that he might be back?

I've heard.

I mean, I don't.

But everybody might be that.

Does this count as marketing materials?

I don't know.

I'm like, I'm now spoiler blind.

But no,

I've heard that he is coming back.

And I could tell you perhaps offline what he's coming back in.

They just announced the like unannounced and reannounced and unannounced Deadpool.

Does anyone think that Deadpool's not going to be in the new Marvel movies or is this maybe like a Ryan Reynolds attention-seeking deal-making thing?

I'm not sure.

Like I assume based on the fact that it's filming that the deals are done.

Let me ask you a question point blank.

At this point in the MCU,

who is the most popular character?

And I'll just put two against each other.

Who's more popular?

Deadpool or Iron Man at this point?

At this point?

At this point.

At this point, Deadpool, because he's got movies out.

Right.

Who's more popular, Deadpool or Wolverine?

Wolverine, because he don't miss.

You think so?

Well, I mean, like, I'm going to say,

it was the Deadpool movies have been escalating in popularity, right?

He's a fantastic character, but it's also hard to beat the 20 years of history now, 25 years of history now that we have with that particular Wolverine.

Is it every movie in those 20 years is hard to beat?

Are you saying it's just like the building?

I think they did a tremendous thing of ending that character really well.

They did, but I also felt like Deadpool and Wolverine did a great job of bringing him back without cheapening Logan.

It just goes to show too, Terrence Stamp dying because he played General Zod in the first one, and Michael Shannon played General Zod in the Man of Steel movies.

And then in, weirdly enough, in Batman vs.

Superman in a weird way.

But Terrence Stamp played General Zod in in the original Superman 2, which has a whole weird thing at the end of

Superman's powers being like he can teleport and he can turn invisible and he can throw the S on his chest.

And so

50 years later, people are like, what was that part?

What was the thing where he threw the decalip people?

He can like, what, like, throw it like a ninch of star?

No, he throws it like a net.

I don't know how to describe it.

Like a huge, clear plastic net.

It's very strange.

You can go look up the final fight scene of Superman 2 from 1974 for whenever it was.

And it was considered the quintessential superhero movie, by the way, for decades until the Michael Keaton Batman.

One decade.

What percentage of the world's power do you think the superheroes use for their laser?

Who even knows?

Tony Stark alone or that guy in fucking jail.

Have him deletes.

He knows.

For God's sake.

Who knows?

But Taryn Stamp was in.

He played General Zod.

In this day and age, They would have like had him in the gym for seven months, you know, and getting him in great shape.

He's just like a dude in a robe, like in that movie.

They just didn't care too much about that.

Like the early superhero dudes got off light.

By the way, well, Christopher Reeve, he trained.

You know what I just found out?

You know who was Christopher Reeves' trainer to put on the mask to play Superman?

Who?

David Prouse.

Recognize the name?

I do.

Darth Vader, who was a championship bodybuilder.

I didn't know that he was.

I thought he was just some English actor that they replaced his voice.

No, he was a really well-known, like, Schwarzenegger of the UK type type dude.

And he's the guy who trained Christopher Reeve and had him pack on mass to play Superman.

So they were doing that.

That's some lore.

It is fucking Superman, though.

What other choice do you have?

You can't play Conan the Barbarian and, you know, walk out like you're coming from the I.T.

department.

Some roles call for it for sure.

Now they just do it at everything.

Like Doctor Strange apparently has to be in fantastic shape in order to play that role.

Well, you got to fly.

But Terrence Stamp killed it.

Still to this day.

Beloved performance.

Just such gravitas.

Overcomes all the cheap effects and everything and all the weird powers that they gave Superman in that movie.

Yeah, he was just tremendous, tremendous actor.

So a terrible loss.

Rest in peace, Taryn Stamp.

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