2025.06.27: Homemade Souvenir

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Martin to you, wherever you are, because it is

for June 27th, 2025.

My name is Bernie Burns.

Oh, breathe a sigh of relief.

She's back.

Ashley Burns.

Say hi to Ashley, everybody.

And welcome home, Bernie.

So the secret to being on the podcast is come stay at our house and then we'll put you on the podcast.

Last couple of days, we've had Scott on the podcast, which is always entertaining.

Feedback has been all over the place.

We've gotten comments that have said that Scott is tearing apart the fabric of society and our democracy as we know it, ranging from that all the way to, wow, I can't believe I'm not changing my worldview from the guy sleeping on the floor of the book.

You know, it's important to note as well.

So, he, am I I wrong here?

He took a bus here

from the Netherlands.

Yes.

Right.

So we, we were recently in the Netherlands, Bernie, and we got to the Netherlands by taking a direct plane flight.

It was, it was like an hour flight, right?

We'd have to like basically cross the water, right?

So we just fly across the water.

Because there's a body of water between those two places.

Yeah.

And then, boom, there you are.

There's the Netherlands.

It was an hour.

Did he spend 30 hours to take a bus like four countries?

Yeah, like I think it was like five countries that he went through.

If you include the first and last ones, yeah, five countries altogether, I think.

That's a very long bus ride.

It was a very convoluted way to get to his destination.

There's a metaphor in there somewhere, Ashley.

We took a straight line to ours.

It was a 30-hour deep ride.

We took Occam's itinerary, is what we said.

Anyway, so welcome back, Ashley.

Everyone is glad to have you back on the podcast.

Thank you.

Did you enjoy your break?

I did, but I have to inform you that during this like 24-hour window that you were gone, Bernie, my entire personality is now based around one singular thing, and that is K-pop David Hutter.

Oh, I thought you were going to say the pictures of JD Vance memes on your phone, hopefully.

Because I want to travel with you.

No, I want to.

I want to be able to get back into America.

Thank you very much.

Apparently, that's a no-go.

Yeah, well, no, actually, there's been an update on that where, you know, it might be trying to cover their tracks or whatever, but they said that the reason why the name of the tourist coming from Norway, this is a story we're behind on here.

So I'm assuming most people know about this, but a Norwegian traveler heading into the U.S.

got a lot of press earlier in the week because he was supposedly barred access to the U.S.

for having memes of J.D.

Vance, the vice president of the United States, on his phone.

And then later, Customs came out and said, that's not why he was barred.

He was barred.

This is according to Snopes.

He was barred because he said he had had recent drug use.

Well, specifically, so they, one of the big things, and I think that one of the things that's not being focused on heavily enough is he says he was threatened with five years in jail or a $5,000 fine if he didn't unlock his phone for them.

Right.

Legally speaking, our

wildly different

things.

What do you mean the scale of those things?

Well, if you're choosing door number one, $5,000, or door number two, five years in jail, take the $5,000 fine.

I agree completely, but that also feels very much...

like

if you are wealthy.

That's just the it's legal, right?

It's legal if you're wealthy because you can just say you can pay the $5,000 fine and go about your day.

A lot of people can't just like write a check for $5,000 and forget about it.

Especially people like doing an international travels young person, right?

They're at least a backpack that has all of their belongings in it.

I think the phrase you're looking for, by the way, is a fine means legal for rich people.

Yeah.

So that, you know, so I think that that is one of the major things about this detainment is he was basically threatened in order to require him to unlock his phone.

And then as part of his, I guess, camera roll, whatever, they found these, you know, the babyface meme of J.D.

Vance.

And then what you call it?

Okay.

I think that's what it's called.

But then also the,

like, he had like an old homemade wood pipe that was in a photo from years ago.

What I want to know is where did they find the pipe photo?

Look up.

Do me a favor and open your camera roll right now.

I can tell you that I have in my camera roll at this moment 35,000 photos.

Well, you know, if it's an iPhone too, you can actually search by things that are in the image without having text in the image.

Wait, you search drugs.

Like, look, go on your phone and search for sheep, and it'll pull up photos of sheep, even though you haven't labeled them or captioned them or done anything special to indicate that they are photos of sheep.

Oh, those aren't photos of sheep.

Yeah, huge sheep.

So there is an ability to look for things.

And if they look for drugs or pipes or stuff like that, you know, they could find it.

I think the burying of the lead here is, though, is that a lot of people were shocked that when you show up at the border, they can access your phone.

There were other tourists weighing in on some of the articles that we read that uh corroborated this that they give you the choice of five thousand dollars or five years in prison or give us the password to your phone which is shocking to a lot of people that they can just have access to your phone when you enter countries when you go into you know border control you sometimes you're shocked at what what they require you to do to enter the country well and it's a weird thing too because we we would normally expect right that um when you're in a specific country you follow the laws of that country while you're in that country, right?

That's the expectation, but then you would also be protected by the same laws.

Now, I so would you, would you, though?

Well, I get confused about something like this, because if you're at border control, you are physically like you're standing within land that is within the country, right?

But

administratively, they're evaluating whether to let you into the country legally, right?

Like you're not, you are in the country, but you're not in the country yet.

Right.

So I don't know, does a different set of laws apply?

I mean, I'm not sure how that works, to be honest.

Well, it's interesting you say that, too, because we were warned, for instance, we traveled to the UAE.

When you're usually traveling to other countries, you're told about all the rules of following their laws for the negative consequences of it.

Like for us in the UAE, we were told, don't show, because we weren't married at the time.

don't show any public affection.

If you have any tattoos, cover them.

We were even told that if a person approaches us and speaks to us, I should be the only person to speak to strangers and that you as a woman should not speak to them, which you're making that face you made when they told you that too.

It's like, it's not something that you want to hear.

On the flip side of that, you hear about those negative consequences.

Are you really protected though?

Like, do you get the positive aspects of being in the country and the laws of the land?

Like, do people who travel to the U.S.

have freedom of speech suddenly and that kind of thing?

Well, one would hope so, but that's where it seems to be, the system seems to be potentially falling down right now right so i don't know that like this this whole thing is weird but i i wonder i wonder because the this tourist his name was mads michelson he's a norwegian tourist oh right how bizarre is that you think he got pulled aside because they were like oh my god look you guys got mads mikkelson or you're gonna ask us questions and it turns out it's like the wrong guy and they're like fuck you man you we're going we got we got catfish i went to mad michelson phone today

a bunch of memes and photos of pipes and everything yeah so there's a lot of now uh uh governments that are warning people as they come to the u.s Travel advice is bring a burner phone.

Yeah, like don't like don't take your phone.

Like that's a weird,

you would feel like that's a weird thing to have to like warn your people about coming into the U.S., right?

Like if you're in the U.S., do you feel weird that people are being warned to bring a burner phone into your country because they're not safe with their phones?

I'll tell you exactly how I feel.

It's embarrassing to me that people have to do that in order to travel to the United States because anyone who has...

in my opinion, anything that is actually damaging or nefarious, they probably already have a burner phone there.

So you're really just warning people who would just have stupid memes or are critical of the government or something like that.

It's embarrassing to me.

To me, that's very un-American.

But

K-pop demon hunters.

I did not mean to derail you with that.

No, Bernie,

this movie has no business being as good as it is.

I've watched it like two or three times.

The music is so catchy.

It's so catchy.

It's stupid.

And I've got a, I've been talking to, you know, Blaine's girlfriend Kristen on Instagram.

We're now K-pop demon hunter besties because she's the only person I can talk to about all this stuff.

So we're just sending memes back and forth.

Bernie,

this is, I'm miserable.

It took them nine years to make this movie, and I need a sequel tomorrow.

There is a group of ladies that have all formed like a group, and it's like, I'm envious being on the outside of that group of personal friends because they seem to be like a cozy group.

They all like, what's the cozy five or whatever it is?

They're talking about like cozy games and stuff.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, that's all the stuff that we all talk to each other about.

They're very much into cozy content and cozy lifestyle, and I'm a little bit jealous of it.

To be honest with you, it's fantastic.

It's not for me.

It's not for me, I can tell.

But I'm like, I'm looking in through the window.

You wish you were into it?

Well, you'll be happy to know then, Bernie, that K-pop Demon Hunters has been dethroned as Netflix's number one film.

Oh, what a shame.

By, hold on, what's this called?

Poop Cruise.

Let's see.

It's called Train Wreck.

Poop Cruise.

That's the new top film on Netflix.

Is that like a Jeff Cornway movie?

Yeah, no, it's well, it's a documentary about.

What?

I forgot.

Yeah, this is a documentary about this cruise that left Galveston, Texas.

This is like a decade ago, like 2013, 14.

And it was like, it's supposed to be a four or five day cruise from Galveston to Cozumel and Mexico.

And then four, okay.

And a fire in the engine room basically destroyed.

Like they had no engines.

They had no electricity.

They had no air conditioning.

They couldn't cook food.

The toilet systems

had no power.

So

hence hence the title poop cruise.

And so it's just like absolute nightmare for like 4,000 people on board, right?

That were just stranded on this cruise ship in the middle of the ocean, watching society fall the fuck apart.

I would imagine, yeah, it just, I've never been a cruise person.

We've never been on a cruise.

I've never been on a cruise in my entire life.

Have you?

I would, no, I haven't.

I would love to go on one sometime.

The thing that keeps me from doing that is like, oh, everyone gets sick on cruises.

And I'm like, I have a child in grade school thank you very much i've already got that covered i don't need to go on vacation to get that as well uh you know but it seems like it would be a lot of fun to do like one time one time but then i then i see things like this and go well perhaps not i feel like cruises more than any other form of travel

when you get on a plane or you get on a train or you travel in a car down a highway your big fear is crash and death that's your big concern that's not my big concern with a cruise cruise seems to skip the death part and just go straight to the hell, right?

Like, I feel like if the fire had taken over the whole ship, they would have a procedure for evacuating everybody.

But if it's just like you're wallowing in hell for five or six days or how long?

Yeah, and then they like limp.

They eventually limped to Alabama, I believe.

Oh, God, that's a good destination.

Oh, good news, everybody.

We're in Alabama.

Well, and they had to like camp in tents on the deck because there were no air conditioning systems for the rooms, right?

So like no, like it's just sweltering.

They're talking about like urine-covered carpets.

Absolute mess.

But the train wreck of it is like now it's this documentary that everyone is watching.

Also, by the way, trains are like, hey, why are you involving us in this?

Don't call it a train wreck.

Can we use a new standard for horrible travel experiences besides train wrecks?

Excuse me, our toilets worked.

Thank you very much.

This is a hell cruise.

But it seems like they have all those procedures for potential loss of life, but then it doesn't matter how low your quality of life gets, they don't give a fuck.

Like, you're trapped and just like they, you sign the waiver, you're here.

Fuck you.

But I read on, so hold on, let me see the compensation.

They were, everyone got like a refund, you'll be happy to know for their poop cruise and like $500.

A refund.

What was the

name, the cruise line?

Did they name in shame in this?

Oh, yeah, it was Carnival.

Oh, it was Carnival.

Here's, it was the Carnival Triumph.

It was the specific ship.

But you'll be happy to know, Bernie, that they have taken that ship out of service.

No, just kidding.

They renamed it.

They renamed it.

It's still going.

Let me see.

The Carnival Triumph is technically still in service today, operating under a different name.

It's now the Carnival Sunrise.

I would have named it the Carnival Beelzebub or something like that.

Let people know.

Lean into it a little bit more.

I have said before, I wanted to be at Dash Con.

I wanted to be at Fire Festival, all of those things.

You don't want to be on the Triumph?

Listen, that's my limits.

That is my, like before when I said no animal could kill me, and I said, well, maybe a giant like Silverback Gorilla.

I'm going to exclude that from my list of animals that can't kill me.

The Carnival Triumph, that would be the thing I'm going to kill you.

I'm glad I wasn't on the Triumph.

Would you just like go overboard just to escape it all?

I wouldn't tell people that that way.

You get the thousand-yard stare when you're talking about it.

But also about movies, Bernie, Ballerina, film I went to see you last week.

I saw a headline this morning.

Bernie, it's already coming to streaming.

It's been like two or three weeks.

But okay, but I feel like, okay, I get what you're saying there, but I feel like we shouldn't hold that against movies.

No, well, so look,

it's a good thing and it's a bad thing.

It's a good thing for a lot of consumers, right?

Because it's cheaper to watch things on streaming.

You don't have to go somewhere and spend like a billion dollars on popcorn and all that stuff to be able to watch it.

So for consumers, sure, it's a great thing that

the window between something hitting theaters and something getting to home streaming is like getting shorter and shorter.

But it's one of those things where

it seems like the, the industry, right, is like in a panic.

How do we get people into theaters?

How do we do all the, like, you know, how are we going to keep our box office numbers up?

How are we going to keep films profitable so that we can continue to make films?

All these things.

Meanwhile, they are, they are training people to wait them out.

Yeah, I guess so.

And I've definitely felt that way before, but also now I kind of feel like if you're going to go see a movie in a theater and you're excited about it, you're going to go see that movie.

I do feel like, not that ballerina qualifies, but I do feel like it does make original movies things that you just kind of wait on because you know they're going to go to streaming.

And it's only the things that you already have pre-hype for, like a sequel or a Marvel movie or a reboot or something like that.

Those are the things you say, I've got to see that day one in the theater, otherwise people are going to spoil it for me.

Right.

It's like there's no time for movies to have a word of mouth tale.

Yeah, not for theaters, no, but then it's like, it's just evolving and changing, right?

Right.

You know, and I can see it for some things, like if it's the first film in a franchise where you want to just get more people into the franchise, you want to get more people watching it however you can to sell future installments.

I can understand like a shorter window for something like that, right?

But, but this is an entry in an established franchise.

Yeah.

Also, I wonder too, it's like, I love those like fringe economic indicators too, or just like, you know, the way big systems move.

And I wonder if somebody could do a study between

like, what is the amount of money spent on marketing before a movie comes out that then pushes the window to streaming out further?

Because I feel like the less they're spending on marketing up front, the shorter that window is going to be before it goes to streaming.

For instance, ballerina, I didn't really hear that much about it, right?

I didn't see much advertising for it or anything like that.

If you had told me day one that it was going to go to streaming in a few weeks, I'd be like, I get that.

You'll be like, okay, great.

So I'll see it in three weeks.

Perfect.

We just have to admit sometimes now that the theatrical run is maybe just itself a marketing campaign for the eventual streaming release.

Maybe, maybe, maybe that's the way that they're going to have to go with it.

It's just, it's weird to me that they seem to be like so focused on like, I guess we need to get it onto streaming now to make as much as we can, what, for this quarter, I guess, and hit our quarterly targets as opposed to like the sort of long-term strategy for the overall industry.

Can I get while we're, I'm pulling this up here on the fly, but while we're talking about fringe things, like people spotting things and trends, I read the funniest thing the other day.

I read that there's a roller coaster at Disney World.

Apparently it's at all the Disney parks where people go to ride this roller coaster.

They go to ride this roller coaster, Ashley, if they want to dislodge their kidney stone and pass kidney stones.

Let me read this.

This is from.

That sounds like fun.

This is from the Wikipedia entry.

I can only do a carnival cruise in terms of fitness.

Well, first you you go on the carnival cruise and then you drive from alabama over to disney world so that you can cleanse your system all the toxicity but uh it's big thunder mountain railroad uh is a mine train roller coaster located at disneyland magic kingdom tokyo disneyland and disneyland park now i don't know if they're the exact same configuration but i imagine it's disney so they probably just have a template that they just go and they put down the exact same roller coaster with the exact same specification.

But here's the weird part.

This is from the Wikipedia entry on the roller coaster.

In the October 2016 Journal of the American Osteopathic Association, a paper was published.

The paper's author, Dr.

Wartinger, found that patients of his had passed kidney stones after riding Big Thunder Mountain Railroad at Walt Disney World on vacation, including one who passed three stones on three separate occasions.

Isn't passing like one stone supposed to be one of the most painful things that can happen to a human?

Can I, can I, can I tell you something here okay okay i've always heard that i listen okay at this point in my life i don't think i'm gonna get kidney stones and i don't want to manifest anything i've always been a little bit curious

i've always been because i've always heard that i've always been kind of curious yeah i've always been kind of curious you know what uh i feel you i've always been um really curious about like i don't know being burned at the stake as a witch but not furious enough to try it okay

i'm just i'm admitting something here i've always been a little curious how bad can it really be can i stand i know if i if i had one of those there are people who are listening to this who have had kidney stones who go, you shut your fucking mouth right now.

Because apparently, have you seen these things when they get up close?

They look like

surgeons.

Yeah, yeah, or like these like crystal geodes.

They look awful.

Absolutely horrendous.

So someone passed three of the wait, so listen.

So someone's passed three stones on three separate occasions by riding the big Thunder Match and roller coaster.

The doctor then tested this result with the permission of Disney.

This is according to the paper, with a 3D model of a kidney by riding the ride over over 20 times, the study found that nearly 70% of the time, the kidney stone was passed with results varying depending on which row of the roller coaster they were sitting in.

Let me guess.

The further back you are, the more successful it is.

Like, you know, you get in the back of the roller coaster and you're getting like whipped around.

Right.

Like extra violent.

And you had a better chance of passing.

And if you hold your hands up and there you go,

the study also found that Space Mountain and rock and roller coaster starring Aerosmith failed to cause this result.

How much do you want to be part of this study, right?

They're like, do you have kidney stones and really enjoy badass roller coasters?

Come join our scientific study now.

It would be awesome if you actually got Aerosmith on the roller coaster to pass the kidney stones.

It's a good thing, right?

To pass kidney stones.

You want to get rid of them.

I mean, look, you don't want to have a kidney stone, but if you have the kidney stone, you want to get rid of the kidney stone, right?

So you could, I don't know, go see a doctor or do whatever they do to make you pass those things, or you could just spend all your money on a trip to Disney World.

Just please put all your JD Mance memes away.

Right.

All right.

Before you, before traveling.

And then

allegedly.

And then, bam, there you go.

Do you think it was treatment?

Because of the memes, or do you think it was...

Do you think they're covering their tracks with this drug thing?

Probably a little bit of both.

Yeah, yeah.

Who knows?

I mean, they are saying it's like they do check phones for any comments against the current administration.

That's insane to me.

Like, buddy, do you have any idea how many pictures of my lock screen you're going going to find?

Because that's like what I feel like

half my camera roll now is just like accidental screenshots of my lock screen.

A selfie of the inside of my pocket.

But I want to be clear for our listeners: if they do want to pass some kidney stones by going to the correct Disney World, then make sure you go to Disney World because that's where the paper was published.

We cannot at all guarantee the medical results if you go to Disneyland Paris or something like that.

But if you do a scientific study comparing the results of kidney stones on the various Thunder Mountain rides across the entire suite of Disney parks.

Please send us a link to the paper.

I'm not going to participate, but I'm fascinated by the results.

I want to know if the Disneyland Paris will also take care of my medical conditions, or is it only Orlando?

Gives a new meaning to the term fast pass.

My bad puns these days.

Only dad jokes.

Can I reveal something else since I'm revealing all this dumb shit about myself today?

You may.

You're not going to believe this, but so you were just talking about Ballerina going to streaming.

Yes.

Recently, I was talking about 28 Years Later, and, you know, whether or not they'll for sure get another movie, and people came out and said to me, I don't think Bernie realizes they've already shot the sequel to 28 Years Later.

In this world, you're not guaranteed anything in this modern media world.

You're not guaranteed of anything.

Just because they've shot it, just ask Batgirl.

Ashley, past me is coming back to redeem me at this moment.

because I just got a one week in advance alert coming up in seven days.

This is like the pettiest thing of all time.

I'm going to own this, though.

Okay, go ahead.

Coming up in seven days is the one-year anniversary of the post on our subreddit by user

Toadfire.

Hi, Toadfire.

How you doing?

It's me.

One year ago, minus seven days, you posted.

I don't think Bernie knows that Horizon chapter two has already been filmed and comes out in a few weeks, lol.

Well, guess what, pal?

Chapter 2 of Horizon, an American saga, has not yet come out because it was pulled from theater.

And as far as we know, nowhere to be seen.

How

is that?

Hold on.

When is Horizon 2 coming out?

When is Horizon chapter 2 coming out?

Now, Toadfire, take your L.

I'm so petty.

I put that in my calendar.

According to the AI search results, chapter 2 came out the 7th of September 2024.

Yo, did it?

It was so enjoyable.

Last I heard about Horizon American Saga chapter two,

it was that one of the French film festivals received an 11-minute standing ovation, and that's the last anyone has ever heard of chapter two.

Yeah, an article from Town and Country magazine

that was dated May 7th, 2025 says, so far, no dates have been announced as to when chapter two will debut.

No, no, so it's just, it's just

stuck there.

Got no dates.

It's in limbo.

Maybe Kevin Costner should go ride a roller coaster at Disney World to dislodge that thing.

Get it unstuck.

So I'd imagine then that, you know, that chapter three and four, it was slated for four, right?

That was the big plan.

Yeah, I think so.

And he was going to find funding.

I think 28 years later, it's in the same kind of boat where they have the second one in the can, essentially, but they're looking for some kind of zeitgeist momentum in order to get three funded.

So it's just like, man, how can you write an open-ended story at this point?

It's doing well, though.

I mean, let's see.

Box office Mojo says that worldwide, so far it's done $68 million.

I don't know what the budget on it was, but it's

shot it with iPhones?

Yeah, there was that thing that they shot up.

It was like five, like a rig where they had like what, a bunch, like five iPhones or something like that, where they were, they shot parts of the movie that way.

Even like the solo rig itself, you would look at this thing and go, there's an iPhone somewhere in that thing.

Man, I talk to Matt about this on a regular basis.

If we had had this 4K camera that I carry around in my pocket, if we'd have had that for our first movie, holy shit.

Would be absolutely game-changer.

I mean, you wouldn't have had to be like counting the seconds of film you shot.

Yeah, and I guess, I guess it has led to a filmmaking revolution with like YouTube and shorts and everything else.

But it's not, it's not quite what I thought it was going to be.

Like if everyone had access to a camera.

Like I would talk to you years ago.

I talked to Gavin of like Slow-O guys.

I said, and then, you know, it's not just the technology that makes that thing happen.

That's another example of what we talk about AI, like, oh, look at these tools that are coming that are going to change everything.

I would talk to Gavin about Slow-Mo guys

and his approach with these incredibly high-speed cameras.

I said, eventually everyone's going to be able to have these incredibly high-speed cameras.

You know what the weird thing is?

What?

That did happen where people can do like, you know, 2,500 frames or something like that, not the 300,000 or whatever he can do.

Something that can, you know, film a light particle traveling or something.

But now I'm starting to see like, like a lot of things, people are doing celebrity AI slow motion videos.

Like they're taking celebrities.

And this sounds more violent than what it is, but they do a thing where a celebrity is doing like an interview, and that boxing glove comes in from the side in super slow motion.

Punches someone in the side of the face.

It sounds what I just described sounds very violent.

When you see it, it doesn't feel as violent as what you think.

It's more so the dynamics of someone's face demorphing or something like that.

That's one of the reasons I think Gavin said that he doesn't really film a lot of like people in slow motion, right?

Like it's like the like people look weird in slow motion.

Yeah.

Right.

Like there's something when you see that kind of thing, like you you see someone get hit in slow motion or you see like, you know, a collision or something like that, it's disturbing how fluid, how bendy, how,

how much something can just like disshape.

Gooey.

Yeah.

Almost like gooey.

Like things only remember they have a form at speed, right?

But in slow motion, that's flexible.

It's like a bender on Futurama always calls humans meat sacks.

And it's like, yeah, we're kind of meat sacks, aren't we?

It's kind of what we are.

But yeah, so I always, you know, the slow-mo stuff is always the super fluid stuff, either fire or water.

Those are always like so impressive to watch.

A lot of stuff people like to watch stuff break or shatter and things like that.

If it's water in it, man, I will watch that every single time.

For me, it's fascinating to see something like glass break.

Right.

Where it's just, it's something that you, or like a lightning strike in like super duper slow, like things that you see and they happen in an instant.

It's like it was one way and now it's another way.

Like Like there was almost no transition between the two.

And if you can slow it down enough to see that transition, fascinating.

It's like it exists in such a time base that is removed from your default time base that it might as well not exist, which is fascinating.

Yeah.

The scale of time is one that's such that things can happen, but for you, they didn't actually happen because they happened in a completely different time base.

That's always been fascinating.

Well, the good news is, Bernie, we have a weekend coming up.

It is Friday.

And so if we all get really, really lucky, we can just slow time down so much that this weekend will extend for all time.

Time dilation.

Yeah.

Yeah, all the way to Monday.

Let's figure out how to make that work.

We have one of our kiddos going into summer break.

And I do want to pause for a second and say congratulations to my oldest son, JD.

The reason I was on the road yesterday is I attended his university graduation.

So while we're talking about time dilation, those of you who have followed Rushid over the years, hearing that JD is now graduated fully from his ceremony from university, is done with his education.

That's going to be shocking to you.

That's where I was.

And it was immense pride watching him walk across the stage with honors.

I got to say that as a parent, I'm so proud of him.

Great seeing him on that stage.

And it was nice, too, because he didn't get a chance to walk his high school graduation because of the pandemic.

So I'm so happy that he got this walk.

It was fantastic.

So congratulations to JD.

And I'm going to enjoy this weekend and bask in the fact that I got one kid who's on his own.

I should say it, because Teddy was out before him, because of trade school.

But yeah, two kids out.

So we're halfway done, Ash.

And oh boy, and a big shout out as well to Maggrie and Richard Palmer.

Thank you both so much for sponsoring this episode of our show at patreon.com/slash morning somewhere.

All right, well, that does it for us today, June 27th, 2025.

We will be back to talk to you on Monday.

We hope you will be here as well.

Bye, everybody.