2025.06.25: Top Gun World

Maverick Derange Control.

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Scott Up!

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Martin to you wherever you are because it is

for June 25th, 2025.

My name is Bernie Burns.

Sitting right over there, everyone's favorite guest star.

It's Squirrel.

Say hi to Scott, everybody.

Hey, what's going on, everybody?

By the way,

I could not tell the difference there.

I thought you accidentally played the Finn drop.

Oh, let's see here.

Here's Finn.

Morning Subware.

Morning Subwear.

I got the inflection on the second word wrong, but it was pretty close.

I like Finn.

Finn's got the Graviton.

He's like a gravel.

Morning Subware.

He nailed it.

That was like his second one.

He did one, and then I was like, you know, with kids, you're like, no, you got to do it like you're mad, like, try to be angry.

And then he just fucking popped.

I was like, that's perfect.

It was perfect.

Been using that ever since.

Yep.

Yeah.

Occasionally, I'll throw mine in there, but it never holds up to Finn's performance.

And mine didn't hold up to his either.

I've been thinking about that the whole time.

What are you doing?

I'm just saying, so you got your timer set over there?

Oh, yeah, I don't follow instructions very well.

No, that's okay.

I'm just making sure because I don't want to have to cut you off.

I want you to be like, you have a timer sitting literally right there in front of you.

Well, the best part is.

The blue thing that's going to be.

No one cares.

Okay.

So,

I mean, I got out of my phone.

But that's the beautiful thing is because now we don't have to feel rushed because we, well, we won't feel rushed until the

other part.

Anyway, 18 minutes left.

Yeah, I was kidding.

So you do a thing.

We've known each other for a long time.

So, like an old married couple, little things that the other one does can bug the shit.

Oh, God.

What is the thing where you set a timer for yourself?

Like, the entire time I'm with you,

you have an alarm going off every 10 minutes, and then you snooze it.

And I don't even ask you what it's for.

You look at it and go, huh?

And then 10 minutes later, that same alarm goes off.

The one that you've been hearing today mostly was the rescheduling of my bus ticket, which I should have turned off because I'm not doing that anymore.

You set alarms for your to-do list.

Well, because if I did.

Oh, no, no, no.

Well,

yeah, I guess technically that's exactly what I'm doing.

That is a to-do item for you to do.

Well, yeah, but I should have done it right then because it needs to be done within 24 hours of like it needs to be done.

Oh, that makes sense.

So, yeah, so it was like it window opened, and that's what the alarm was for.

So the other alarms you heard go off today were, well, you wouldn't have heard the one this morning.

That's my, I have to pay my dues to my guy in Miami for my business.

And then, what was the other one?

Do you want me to bleep that?

I don't give a shit.

Okay.

I'm in another country now.

Another one that went in today was

trash day.

It's trash day.

And so I'm last.

All day long, it's just like your RTD too.

Alarms are going off.

There's babeping.

It's like.

It's funny that you said it's an old married couple thing because it drives Casey Casey nuts.

She goes, Hey, your alarm's going.

She, she doesn't get mad anymore.

Now it's just like, hey, surprise, your alarm's going off.

Because I sell alarms all day.

But the one that goes off on Tuesdays is take the trash out.

Because what started happening after 14 years of living together, I'd be like, ah, I'll get to the trash.

And then it'd be like four in the morning and I'd wake up to take a piss.

And she goes, hey, you take the trash out yet.

And I'd go, fuck.

Or.

The sun would come up and all of a sudden we'd hear the

it's like four houses away and i get up and i shoot out like lightning as you get older as a dude you can hear a trash truck two blocks away yeah like i can pick out a trash truck when it's coming like a trash truck has entered the neighborhood and then you're out there in your underwear rolling out the bin yeah so here's what happens i i hear that noise and i'm scrambling around like a bat out of hell and i have to empty two bathroom trash cans, one in my office.

Oh, you're doing the trash?

I'm doing it.

I'm doing it.

I'm running around and I've got two trash bags.

I run down and they're still two houses away.

That's how fast, I mean, I'm just like, boom.

And if you just done it the night before, you'd be fine.

Exactly.

So, okay.

But the thing is, that's what the alarm is.

It's like, let's put an end to that dumb shit.

We should be clear, too.

I'm in Scotland.

We're not in Austin.

Sometimes when you're on, we're in Austin.

Right.

But those alarms are going off here and you're just resetting them.

Like you're snoozing them and then they come back up nine minutes later.

And then it's that all day with you.

There's like alarms going off constantly and you look at it and then snooze it for later to get back to it.

Well, snooze is 10 minutes, it's like I should be doing this right now, but just like you should be getting up right now, people go, nah, we'll do it in 10 minutes.

Uh, the other thing is, you shouldn't be hearing it at all.

A while ago, I set all of my alarms to vibrate only, so nobody should be hearing them.

So, I apologize, but you're losing your hearing them because I've been hearing them constantly.

Well, no, yeah, they're going, I'm the actual audible alerts.

You're also the only person I've ever met who sets up their text messages

to set off their camera flash, like you have your LED, your LED for your camera flash turns on every time you get a text.

That's

silent.

It's blink, blink, blink, blink.

So it's silent.

Which is like when we're out anywhere, you're just like, and you're talking to your wife.

We're all on the back side of your phone.

You're on the front side of your phone.

We're just getting blop, blop, blop, blop constantly.

Yeah, that's true.

That should probably stop.

You should turn that off.

That's a weird ass feature.

It is.

I mean, the first time somebody saw it, they're like, dude, what's going on over there?

They thought the phone was just ringing or, you know, and you never know, somebody might have a conniption fit.

Well, then someone might think you're taking a photo.

Have you ever seen the the famous uh meme of there's these uh like four ladies on a night out at a bar and the lady facing away from the camera or the closest to the camera has kind of a nice posterior and so i guess the guy was trying to take a creepy photo but it did that flash thing with the red eye so it like did the first little burst of flash but the photo was all the ladies turning or turning and looking at the guy taking the photo and scowling i have not seen that that's what people look like whenever your flash goes off in a bar every fucking 35 seconds

i will turn that off right now.

We brought this up before, though, so you're going to turn it off now.

Okay.

Well, listen, I got to be happy with the result I wanted.

I got the result I wanted.

Now the flash is off.

Sure.

How you been, buddy?

Been well, man.

You're, uh, you're, do you want to, can you talk about what you're doing, why you're over here?

Sure.

Well, I mean, it's, it's been two years since I've seen you, number one, but

that's not true, by the way.

You've been on the podcast many times since.

Oh, I'm sorry.

Over here.

It's the first time I've visited you over here at your place in Scotland.

This is my third visit.

By the way, I hope I'm not pissing anybody off.

I keep signing in your guest book.

How many times?

Three times.

But not on this trip, three times.

No, no, no.

I sign every time I show up.

I thought you were making the joke that you signed every time you walked in the front door.

No, no, you're supposed to sign whenever you come.

That's the purpose of it.

All right.

Yeah.

So

the reason why I'm here,

this is day 21, actually.

I've been out of the States for three weeks.

I decided that I wanted to see, I was going to, this is just an exploratory phase, kind of, you know, figure out if there's anything else for us maybe outside of America.

But when Casey and I came here two years ago to Amsterdam, and I say here, sorry.

Casey is Scott's wife.

Yeah, Casey's my wife.

Among other things.

When I say here,

I just am talking about Europe in general because, I mean, in order to get here from Amsterdam on that 30-hour bus ride I took just for funsies, we did not even cover

going from west to east in Texas, 973 miles.

So you've been in Amsterdam for 21 days.

I was in Amsterdam for 15 and then I came here.

Via bus for some reason.

Amsterdam to Scotland via bus.

Well, I had...

That was interesting.

Well, there's multiple reasons for doing that.

I have more time than I have anything else and less money than I have time.

So I was like,

let's combine both worlds and I'll, dude, I can stand on my head for 30 hours.

Give me a break.

Yeah.

How was our riding via coach?

I'll tell you what.

This dude almost whipped my ass because at one break, people started getting on the bus, and I realized that almost nobody is sitting in their own seat.

Everybody's just finding a place, even though everybody is assigned a seat.

If somebody takes your seat, the proper thing to do, I think, is to just go, Okay, well, where are you sitting?

I'll go sit in your seat.

And then you go there, and somebody else is already sitting in that seat.

And it's just like, fuck it, just take an open seat.

Off you go.

So, but they have this handicap section in between rows two and five where it's just floor.

And I go, as soon as we get on the road, I'm going to lay down.

Because after about 10 or 12 hours on a bus, it starts to get a little uncomfortable.

Yeah, it does.

So I was like, I'm just going to lay down on the floor.

And sure as shit, I fall asleep.

All of a sudden, I'm being hit by this guy.

He goes, hey, Laddie, what are you doing?

Or I can't do an accent.

Is he Scottish?

He was something-ish.

And he was getting pissed.

Who?

Driver?

Well, well, there's two people.

You have to have two drivers, one to keep the other guy awake or to switch in case.

So there's tandem drivers on every bus.

It's a Flicks bus.

So this guy comes back there, short little shit, but he would have pounded me into oblivion.

He's like, what are you doing?

And I go, sleeping.

And he goes, you got a seat.

Go sit in it.

And I go, okay, cool.

He goes, and he comes back in the guy.

I go, great, fine.

I think the situation's over.

And we go to the next stop where we stop and he comes back, just B beelines right at me.

He goes, What were you doing?

And I go, I was sleeping.

And he goes, We're not doing that on my bus.

I go, Great.

I'm not here to argue with you.

But I mean, he goes, What were you thinking?

And I go, I was thinking I was going to catch a nap.

And he goes, Look, man, I'm not trying to disrespect you.

I'm going to do whatever you want.

This is your bus.

But if you think I'm safer sitting in that chair with no seatbelt, if this bus rolls over, who gives a shit whether I'm on the floor or in the chair?

Just let me sleep.

I wonder too, it's like an authority thing sometimes.

I ran into that when we were at a small place.

I think we were in Breda, Netherlands is where we were.

Wow.

I don't know that.

I was there for, you went through Antwerp on the way down here.

That's Belgium.

It was very close to Antwerp.

We crossed over into Belgium in order to get almost right on the border.

To get ribs is what we got.

So Breda, we were at a film festival there and we were at a hotel.

It was me and Gavin and Jeff Ramsey.

And

it was such a, it was like one of these places where it was understaffed.

We showed up late.

We said, we're going to go ahead and and drink at the bar.

And he goes, well, go into the bar.

I'll be in there in the bit, the front desk guy.

And he was going to show up.

So we had to wait there.

Somebody else came and checked in.

So we're just sitting at the bar, just sitting there.

We're waiting and waiting and waiting.

And there's on the bar, there is a bowl of packaged crisps.

Just like, you know, whatever, just bags of potato chips.

And so we're waiting and waiting and waiting.

So I think, you know, I'm waiting.

I'm going to grab a bag of the potato chips and so start eating them and things like that.

And then when he shows up, we get our drinks and I say, also these chips, because we got these chips out of the bowl.

And he goes, those are for sale.

And I said, yeah, no.

I said, can you just add them to our thing?

And he got

infuriated that I served myself chips out of the bowl, which is on the bar, not behind the bar or anything like that.

And he got infuriated and just for the rest of the night, wouldn't drop it.

Like just.

could not walk it off.

There's some people who just, that's, that's, that's a character trait problem.

It is.

Um, same thing happened to, uh,

happened to me in line at 7-Eleven the other day.

It's the one on the way to the lake, so it's like the most busy 7-Eleven in America.

We're like seven-deep.

I've got chips and stuff that I want to get and a drink, and I just opened the drink in line and start drinking it.

Why the hell do you care?

Just scan the damn thing whether it's empty or full when I get there.

What do you think I'm going to try to throw it away and get away with a free drink?

I mean, I can look at you and assume you're probably over 21.

Yep.

You know, it's probably okay.

I don't need to go through that whole procedure.

I get what you're saying, but some people like you took a liberty.

And some people, like, when they see that, they get really upset about it.

Like, I would say, like, yeah,

you shouldn't have laid on the floor of the bus.

That's kind of an odd thing to do.

But also, he says, hey, get up.

Then you get up.

And I did.

I did not put up any kind of fight whatsoever.

I was like, sure, got it.

No problem.

I can understand how you might be concerned.

I wasn't planning on telling you my side of the story, but then he did accost me again.

And I was like, all right, dude, here's the deal.

How much time was between the two?

20 minutes.

So he was like, like, stewing over it, right?

He must have been.

See, what I think is you got to put yourself in the shoes of the other person.

When somebody does something that breaks the social norm, right?

Like you lay on the floor of the bus, he's like, what the fuck is that guy doing?

And then a lot of times people won't address it when it happens.

Like, hey, you can't lay on the floor, bud.

Like, don't do that.

And they sit there for a time thinking through this scenario themselves and getting working themselves up and getting mad.

And then

all you need to do is say to you, hey, you can't go on the floor.

You're like, cool, I'm off.

You have no idea what you just kind of.

I am defending myself against a scenario you had in your head that you've been working through for 15 minutes that I have had no time to defend myself and even knew you were thinking about.

Everybody does it.

Yeah.

Everybody does do that.

And the more socially awkward someone is, like a lot of people won't even address it ever.

Like they won't ever say to get off the floor or whatever.

They just sit there and get mad, like wanting you to read their body language, you know, and stuff.

Yeah.

And I've been that person too.

I've just learned the sooner you address something, the better.

Like the sooner somebody does something, I can, hey, dude, just don't do that, you know?

You know, you said something interesting a second ago, too.

You were like, me and Jeff Ramsey and Gavin were doing this, that, and the other thing.

The strangest thing thing about me and you and me and John, your buddy John, two of my closest friends in the world, you know him,

I have never been on a trip with you in the entire time I've known you.

I've never like gone somewhere.

That's 100% not true.

I can think of like four places we've been together.

I've been to New Orleans.

We've been to Brownsville.

Okay.

We've been to Padre.

I'm in like

Vider, Texas.

You are talking about like...

Columbus, Ohio together.

Okay,

you got me there.

Now, that one I consider like, you know, we hopped on a plane together and we went somewhere.

And, you know, okay, Columbus, Ohio for the football game, Lima Sweet in the end zone.

That was a real trip.

Driving to New Orleans, going to Vider, going to, what was the other one?

Padre.

Those don't really count.

Las Vegas?

When?

I don't know.

That's a good question.

Fucking liar.

Yeah.

Maybe we didn't go to Vegas together.

All right.

So, hey, do we need to talk about news of the day?

You guys have a more serious take on it.

I heard you and Ash talking about

Iran today.

Yeah.

Are you going to say Iran or Iran?

Yeah, that's a good question.

So I grew up saying Iran, like most people in America.

We had a discussion about Qatar today or yesterday's podcast.

Yep.

We had a discussion about how to pronounce Q-A-T-A-R, and I watched a video afterwards how to pronounce it.

It's the accepted American pronunciation is Qatar, even though it sounds like Gitar.

But

I say Iran because I learned to say that.

But we grew up saying Iran.

And for a long time, I had a hybrid of what I would say,

let me try to say it.

I can't even say it anymore.

What?

Iran.

Iran?

Yeah.

Do you know why?

Iran.

Do you know why you were.

Do you know about both of those?

Iran.

That's what I say.

In 1980.

Yes, go ahead.

We were dealing with OPEC.

Not me.

I was seven.

But yeah, go ahead.

Well, I was seven too.

And I remember, or I was eight, I guess.

I'm a year older than you.

And the reason why we know about Cutter today is because everybody realized what stealing, thieving,

mobsters FIFA was a couple years ago when Cutter won the World Cup.

Yeah.

I was like, I'll read over the edit button.

Yeah, go ahead.

Go ahead.

So FIFA, which is like, I think FIFA and the International Olympic Committee are both known to be like 100% like just massive grifting organizations.

I don't even follow really any of those things.

But yeah, they're both.

So what they, it was the host city,

the host country, Qatar, and what they did.

It was a bunch of money or something.

It was completely, well, every single time, it's because of a bunch of money.

They've been exposed to be one of the most corrupt organizations out there.

But what's funny is that's at the time.

I remember when like 2020 and 60 Minutes and Vice News were all doing stories on it because it was such a big story at the time that they got selected.

But now I think we're all starting to see how everything operates.

If there's anything, everything's a huge fucking mobster operation.

If there's exclusivity to anything, someone will find a way to make money from it.

Do I have a cough button over here?

No, you don't, but I have it over here.

You don't have one over there.

I'll market for it.

I just cover and go,

don't worry about it because then I'll just market and then they won't even know what happened.

I got you.

Okay.

Except for you to talk about it.

Let's talk about Iran.

You guys were obviously discussing the more finer, mature points.

I actually had a buddy in one of our other discussion threads talking about why did Trump have to do this?

And this is actually a Trumper guy, too.

He goes, why did Trump do this?

I mean, Maverick took care of it three years ago.

And I go.

What the hell?

Does he think that's real?

Maverick being top gun, we'd play the drama.

He does not think it's real, but

the funny thing about that is that is the exact scenario we're going through now.

Back then, if you remember, do you remember the plot of the movie?

Yeah, they're training the new crew to bomb a site that is very hard to approach.

Okay, no, it is the exact scenario we're putting up with now.

So he didn't know that he was talking about it either.

There was only one country in the world that was trying to

not refine, but what do you do to enrich uranium?

That was trying to do it for weapons.

That was doing it in an underground site.

And here's another particular plot point that is in the movie and also going on right now.

They actually have F-14 American fighters

because we sold them to them in 1979 when they were still an ally of ours.

It's like the Strait of Hormuz is now back in the news because Iran, everyone's worried that Iran is going to close it off.

And the administration has actually asked for China's help in making sure that that doesn't happen.

And what's the big concern there?

That oil is not going to make it out?

Probably.

Yeah, it's a big concern.

Yeah, get the fuck out of here.

Why would you say that?

The fact that we're still burning oil

as fuel to move things around is a fucking joke.

You're talking on a theoretical level, on a practical level, that can be a big deal.

Well, practically, we do have it available.

We're just not using it, but that's...

What are you saying?

Like, the U.S.

can, like, what?

Get oil?

Like,

shale oil.

No, we don't need oil at all.

Oh, you're talking about your free energy.

Yes.

Oh, Jesus, dude.

That was 20 minutes ago.

Also, his flash and his alarm is going off.

Now, Now, Bernie's shaking.

You can, by the way, I know that you know that that alarm was about to go off because you've been looking at it every time.

I held it up at three minutes, and I go, dude, can you believe we've been talking for 17 minutes?

It goes fast, dude.

It goes fast.

Don't worry, we'll go 10 minutes.

We'll go a long one this one.

People always like more Scott.

But you were saying that, so you're saying the plot of Top Gun Maverick is exactly the scenario we're living through right now.

Right, right.

It was the only country, the only country that fits the bill.

It must have been Iran.

So

were you surprised?

Shout out to me on tomorrow, by the way.

Were you surprised when I sent you a video last week?

Do you remember what it was?

So, the only reason why I sent it is because he actually had a guest on that I have been amazed by, and she's been showing up everywhere.

And all my Jesse Michaels and

Danny Jones, and yeah, I realize these names mean nothing to you, but Joe Rogan has talked about her.

What does she do?

She used to serve under two presidents for the Housing and Urban Development department.

Her name's Catherine Austin Fitz,

and this is a great lead into a topic we're going to get into.

But I've always found deep underground military bases that a fascinating topic.

And now it's almost just like UFOs are now undeniable.

The fact that there's underground, probably connectable cities.

What are you laughing at?

I just like, I like you, you sneak that in right at the end.

Undeniable.

It's like, that's like such a conversation.

Okay, no, no, no.

The origin of them is up for debate.

The fact that we're seeing things in the sky that are exhibiting propulsion systems we don't understand, that is undeniable.

But for people listening who, let's say, they didn't watch it at all.

I could have sent you the 15-minute version of what does she talk about?

That's what I'm getting.

She's talking about $21 trillion.

To her best guesstimate, based on money flow from her economic and accounting standpoint, she can tell that $21 trillion has

$21 trillion has disappeared over the last 10 years or 15 years, and she knows where it's.

So it's not just that that money's gone missing.

She actually knows where it's going.

Okay.

And she says, this is basically a casino.

So, you know how the stock market is not made for guys like me?

Well, it's made for guys like you.

You know how it's not made for most people?

It's really made for the big movers and shakers, the top 2% that actually have money to move around.

They're making money on the way up and on the way down, just like all of our congressmen.

You know, they make money.

They put in calls when they just come out of a meeting and they know that this pharmaceutical drug is not going to be approved.

So they short it and catch money all the way down.

And then when it finally gets approved, they buy it and it goes way back.

They make money going both ways.

There's a great Twitter account you should follow called Unusual Whales that tracks a lot of that stuff.

Go ahead.

Yeah.

Well, the other thing, so the thing I was going to say is.

By the way, I want to point out you said $21 trillion.

The current estimated level of the U.S.

national debt is about that.

Is $36 trillion.

Well, it is.

this is a significant amount of correct.

Well, dude, think about it.

I mean, money goes.

So what is she saying it went to?

She's saying it's gone to either

funding black budget programs through the, you know, the defense contractors like Raytheon.

And every time you say senate, I got to ask like five other questions.

Northrop Grumman.

What are they doing?

Lockheed, Markin.

They're the ones that, so this is actually kind of elite.

And they're the ones that are back engineering the stuff that we're we're talking about.

What are we talking about?

What are you talking about?

You're saying words.

What are you talking about?

What are they building?

UFOs.

UFOs.

Okay, there we go.

Technology that is not readily available to the public.

It's not just UFOs.

I mean, they're working on anti-gravity.

Alien technology.

Well, it's not alien technology.

It's our technology.

Most of the stuff you see flying around in the air is us, but they got it from somewhere.

Got you.

Okay, but from our perspective,

let's finish up with this.

The main thing she says is

there are underground cities.

They are connected by tunnels.

There's a guy that came out like in the 80s, and I wasn't even introduced to him until like two decades ago, Phil Snyder, who had this unbelievable story about getting in a firefight with aliens as he was escaping, you know, Dugway Proving Ground or some shit like that.

And now it turns out he may not have been full of shit after all.

That's probably a good way to close.

We will find one of these topics to discuss

tomorrow.

One of them.

On our episode of Morning Summer.

All right.

Well, I do want to thank our sponsors for today, Ethan Eppelman and Hunter Johnson.

Thank you so much for sponsoring this podcast at patreon.com/slash morning summer.

That's actually part.

I'm not very good at that.

All right, well, that does it for us today.

June 25th, 2025, Scott will be back to talk directly at you tomorrow.

Yep.

Hope you'll be here as well.

Me too.

Later.