2025.10.17: Watching On Delay

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That's just a fun one to go back to.

It's so silly.

Yeah, someone did the diehard one.

We asked, that's, of course,

movies that were censored as they moved into the public airwaves and the funniest ones.

Right.

They had like clean dubs because you can't have the swears on broadcast television.

That's not even worth it at that point.

Without the swears, where's the fun?

How short would Game of Thrones an episode be if they cut out all the violence, all the nudity?

Right.

And I guess there's not a lot of swearing in it.

No, I guess not swearing, but like i mean can you consider like threatening language is that still clean sure it's just the it's just the opening theme song and then credits

then the then the warning and then the end credits do you think we will ever go back and do a watch through of game of thrones because i'm looking at this game of thrones set like there's a

i have a really weird reason why i want to re-watch it okay we watched it in the early days i felt like of streaming and we've talked about this before when we were starting the media server.

It was the compression on the dark scenes, like in castles, there's a lot of dark scenes, and in dungeons, and anywhere where, like, there's no light, it's just it turns in like a gradient crunchy.

And I want to go back and watch it, like, in high def and get the full experience because it seems like a really beautiful show, regardless of where it ends up.

You want you want to see if that stupid episode where you couldn't see anything for the entire episode is actually maybe like visible on Blu-ray?

Yes, in season, what, 6.25 or whatever the fuck that was.

Whatever.

Yes.

Yeah.

I don't know.

There's a lot to love in the early seasons, but there's that sort of like bittersweet knowledge in the back of your mind you can't get rid of of where it's all going.

It's like the plot of the arrival, basically.

It applies to rewatching Game of Thrones.

But you know where, when you rewatch anything, you know where it's going.

Even if it goes somewhere good,

is Is that better?

Like, I mean, does that make sense?

Like, you get to the ending and you already know the good ending.

ending, you already know the bad ending.

You've already been through the emotional component of processing that.

I mean, yes, that's true, but it's also like, if you know that the end of this track falls off a cliff, are you still going to get on that track?

Are you going to get on, are you going to go ride the track that you know actually gets to a station?

You're talking about tracks, and I immediately think of the other thing that this applies to, which is, uh, I don't know if you heard this or not.

Disney has unofficially, but through sources, according to the Hollywood Reporter, Reporter, has said that Tron is done.

After Atron Aries, they have retired the franchise now.

I mean, it's not that surprising.

It underperformed pretty dramatically at the box office, especially given its budget.

And that seems like a kind of an ongoing trend.

There's a lot of movies that have been coming out and doing just okay,

but their budgets were so extensive that they're huge problems for the studios now.

So, yeah, it looks like what I think it did something like 60 million worldwide.

Let me see this.

I know that it did $11 million under its projections, and it was upwards of about $200 million.

What I learned in this article, which surprised me, is that Jared Leto was the person that really pushed this thing through and got it through development hell.

Like, he wanted to make this movie.

They weren't even going to make another Tron movie.

Yeah, he was like the guy who was

making sure it went through.

So I didn't know that.

It looks like

it pulled in 33 million domestically and then another 27 million internationally.

So it's about 60 million all up so far

against a budget of 180 million.

I'm still going to see it.

I'm still going to see it as well.

It's so weird.

I'm still going to see it.

I'm going to see it as well.

But this sort of lack of urgency is also possibly why it didn't do great on its opening weekend and is causing some problems for the studio and for the franchise as well.

But it's also one of those things where like, is anyone anyone surprised that it underperformed?

That seems almost like a Tron tradition.

Well, yeah, because this was talking about the development hell.

This is like an article about the Hollywood Reporter article.

This is from Worldofreal.com.

It talked about how nobody was going to make this movie.

And then, quote, enter Jared Leto, who somehow convinced the world's biggest studio to hand him a massive tentpole built around his character.

Leto, whose last major outing, Morbius, became a meme rather than a movie, has never been a bankable box office name, yet through sheer persistence and a well-placed ally in then Disney live action chief, Sean Bailey, he managed to push Aries through development hell.

I guess I assume this whole time they just made another Tron movie and decided to cast Jared Leto in it, you know?

Right.

But, well, but he was what he ended up being the executive producer, which is like maybe

the story feels a little bit money.

Like it feels like they put him in the role.

Maybe that's the narrative thing.

You know, there is like that thing that they do, that stupid metric of

what Hollywood star has made the most amount of money at the box office, even if they like walk through the background of like Brad Pitt and Deadpool 2 kind of a thing.

Right.

You know, but I do wonder who is the actor who has crossed over the most major franchises.

Like I forgot that Charlize Theron, who I love, is in the Alien franchise.

Winona Ryder's in the alien franchise.

She was in one of the later like quadrology movies.

I think she was in Alien Resurrection or something.

You know, I think one of the things things that people are always very surprised by is that Zoe Saldania is one of the like top-grossing actors of all time.

Yeah.

You know, and that's largely because of how much of the Marvel cinematic universe she's in and also Avatar.

Yeah, like Samuel Jackson as well.

Like he's in Marvel and he's in Star Wars, but he's not like a lead in either one.

But he's in the movies, yeah.

Right, but he's like, but he's in them.

But who's been in the most like Star Wars, Star Trek, Marvel, Harry Potter, you know, like all the big franchises.

Who's been in the most of those?

That's what I'm wondering.

I see.

You know, like Zoe Saldani is an avatar as well.

You know what I mean?

So that's like a one that not many people are in.

But Sigourney Weaver's in that as well.

And then Sigourney Weaver's an alien, and Sigourney Weaver's in something else that I forgot she was in.

Is she in one of the Marvel ones?

She is.

She's.

What is she?

Yeah, she's in Marvel.

Okay.

She is in Marvel.

She's in the Defenders.

She's in the Defenders.

Which was the Netflix team-up movie that was like Jessica Jones and Luke Luke Cage and Punisher and Daredevil.

And oh, right, the Iron Fist.

And

so she was in that show on Netflix.

I guess I'm not sure if she counts as MCU Canon.

They're slowly bringing more of the characters.

Now they've got Daredevil.

Now they've got Punisher.

I hear talk that Jessica Jones may be back.

So it's like they're slowly bringing all those characters back into Marvel MCU Canon, but it's it's like this debatable about whether she counts.

Right.

It's like, is she in Star Trek because she's in Galaxy Quest?

Yeah, I would, I would love to see

Sigourney Weaver feels like she would be a great fit for The Matrix.

They're going to make another Matrix movie.

They're going to give that another shot.

And I feel like it's in the territory now of Tron Aries.

And you know, Tron's over there going, hey, buddy, maybe just like do a lap before you commit to that.

There's, there's a weird like pathway that's working here for the next Matrix movie, which is the guy who wrote the adaptation of the Martian for the screen

is directing the next Matrix movie.

He's directing it.

Yes.

Like he's the auteur for it, which gives me

a lot of hope for it because it's an adapted work at this point.

It's far enough as a sequel.

You reach a point as a franchise where the sequels are basically you're adapting from previous stuff.

Like I would argue like episode seven of Star Wars was an adaptation and not just a straight sequel.

Like you had to figure out how to get all these pieces to fit together in this thing.

And whether or not they did is in the eye of the beholder

we all know how it went though uh but the uh yeah but the the matrix so between now and then though he's got project tail mary right so it's like that's we're on a pathway here like if that goes really well and it's from all all indications are that it is going to do well that it's got it's got the hype it needs everyone who's seen bits of it or the the cuts or i don't know the extended crazy long

whatever whatever people have seen they're on board with not not to jinx it, but

I'm hearing the words instant classic.

Instant classic.

That gives me hope, though, too, because I want a really well-funded big commitment Matrix movie.

It's like Tron.

I'm just, I love it.

It's like, I like one Matrix movie.

I'll show up to watch them all, man.

I love the Matrix.

But do you like any of the Tron movies?

Also, isn't Matrix basically just like Tron?

Honestly, if you like surface level, it's kind of the same thing.

I finally remembered a Tron movie I really like.

I really like the Tron level of Kingdom Hearts.

Oh, really?

Okay.

Yeah.

Yeah.

There's, there's just like, there's

Tron

like the vibes for Tron are worth so many hundreds of millions of dollars.

How do you do that?

How do you have vibes worth that much?

Yeah.

But just like people have nostalgia for a thing that they, I don't like it.

They don't even like.

Yeah, I think they kind of like it.

You don't run into a lot of like hardcore Tron fans.

Anyway, RIP Tron.

Hope, you know, maybe it's gone.

Maybe they'll put it up for sale and somebody can buy it.

Yeah, and I think the next thing we're seeing Jared Leto in is, I think he's Skeletor in the He-Man movie.

So we'll see how that goes.

Another huge franchise he's going to get.

Yeah, he might have the leaderboard.

He might be number one on the leaderboard.

But we'll see.

I don't know.

It sounds like his days leading huge franchises might be over.

Walling jinxing stuff here.

I want to do a favor because now the LA Dodgers, as of last night, are up three games to none on the Milwaukee Brewers, which means they're looking to sweep the National League Championship Series to head into the World Series.

So I'm going to try to help out.

What are you jinxing here exactly?

I'm going to try to help out the Milwaukee Brewers fans here.

I'm going to say, I'm very happy that we're up three games to none because that means, Ashley, it's a lock.

This is a short game.

We've got a sure thing.

100% we are going to go to the World Series, the LA Dodgers.

It's a lock.

Don't even play the last game.

There are some things, though, that seem like absolute sure things.

And you know what?

You got to wait.

You got to wait and see what history has to say.

You know what?

What's been in the headlines a lot this week is, do you remember TiVo?

How can I forget TiVo?

It was revolutionary.

It was revolutionary.

TiVo is shutting down.

Like, they're not making TiVos anymore.

So I learned a couple of things.

They're going to stop making the DVR.

Yeah.

I learned a couple of things through this.

One, the big one is that they were still making TVOs.

Right.

You learn two pieces of information.

And, you know, I say that kind of tongue in cheek, but it's incredible

how

I feel like crucial TiVo's DVR box was to where we are with streaming right now.

Like, I feel like that was, was that the first time besides like buying, you know, full seasons of DVDs of shows that you could like not watch the show when it was on?

You would like, you would watch the show when it was convenient for you?

It was weird to try to communicate to people at time.

It's lost because now it's just part of our life that you could pause and rewind live TV and that you could be watching a show

behind it by like five minutes.

Right.

That's a weird concept for people that they think, what do you mean?

Friends is on right now.

It's like, yeah, but we're watching it like basically five minutes delayed so we can fast forward to the commercials.

People are like, what?

People would have like the really specific timing too so that they could get to the end of the episode at the exact same time.

So if their friends are texting them or calling them on their like coily lay lines, that they don't haven't missed anything.

They're not getting spoiled.

But also they could fast forward through the commercials.

It was like it was a whole science to it.

It was.

They're writing you a postcard.

It was so revolutionary.

Just the very idea of TV watching being at your convenience.

Right.

It'd be like, to explain it, imagine if you had like a VCR tape and you're recording it, but watching it while you're recording it, but further down in the tape.

Like it's like that's to explain to people and it's like, it didn't make any sense.

So really what TiVo is really incredibly revolutionary for media, I think.

And we just don't have any appreciation for it today because it influenced everything.

Right.

It's one of those things where like it moved technology forward and then technology continued moving and TiVo, like, what else was it going to do?

It was doing the thing that it was doing.

I also got to say, I love because it's one of those private technologies that gets utilities off their ass because sometimes when utilities, they get that monopoly and they're there and then nothing changes for fucking decades.

Another thing like that was remember Google Fiber when we lived in Zilker Park in Austin?

I do.

We were announced in Austin that Google Fiber.

was coming to our neighborhood.

They just announced it.

And in like two years, we'll be there.

The next day, the next day, our internet provider said, hey, we're providing you fiber now and it's going to be up to a gigabit of internet.

And it was because they knew Google was coming.

All of a sudden, we're upgrading all of our broadband plans.

I feel like I say Google weird.

And now I'm thinking about it.

Google.

Google.

Google.

Google.

But when I say it in a sentence, I say Google.

Google.

Like I swallow it when I say it.

Google.

You guys know what I mean.

And it is, all they had to do was just say, like, we're coming.

And then everyone had to scramble to actually compete.

They'd been just in this, like, this lull, this, this status quo for so long.

They didn't have to do anything because you didn't have another option.

You didn't have another option.

Why would they innovate?

Because that would just cost them money.

Right.

Right.

And that's not efficient.

But then when there's pressure of coming like, oh shit, people are going to leave and they're going to go to Google Fiber.

Then

we better get off our ass and supply these people with fiber.

Likewise with TiVo, cable boxes didn't have DVR functionality or recording stuff.

Why would they?

They didn't have that.

As soon as TiVo started to dominate, they all, within a year, maybe, they all had a DVR option in a cable box.

Oh, yeah.

And then like, so it, everything got better for everybody when that happened.

And I, I actually, I wonder what the media landscape would look like if TiVo had never come along.

Right.

Like, like, would, would streaming even be a thing?

YouTube would have killed him anyway.

Because, I mean, YouTube is, I think, what drove the knife in the heart of TiVo anyway, because

TiVo depended on people keeping that cord uncut.

And then once people had YouTube and they could watch stuff, and then that spurred the whole streaming online revolution then everyone started cutting the cord yeah netflix gets a lot of credit for it but the younger generation was already heavily moving to youtube well i remember when uh when netflix started their i don't even know if it was considered it couldn't be considered streaming at that point but they the very first like two or three movies i think they had that you could uh watch online you could like download like watch over the internet one of them was time bandits which i don't know why that stuck in my memory but i always remember that like time bandits was one of the first movies that Netflix ever offered online.

And like I said, I don't know that it was streaming or you might have had to like download it and watch it

and then, you know, I don't know, delete it from your Netflix service.

I don't remember the details, but it was so limited at the time.

And I was like, I had decent internet for the time and it was still a pain in the ass.

I was like, I'm not doing that.

Right.

Well,

why don't I do that?

I mean, I'm going to hold on.

Let me put my DVD back in the red envelope and drop it in the mail.

It's funny how like there's there's even resistance to these things.

I mean, we're seeing it right now.

It's with, did you see the big announcement with AI this week?

Oh, God.

Yes.

The sex bot one.

How do you write that press release?

I don't know.

The open AI is like, yeah, our chatbot will totally sext with you as long as you hand over your ID.

Yeah, right.

See, that's it.

That's it.

Is the ID part.

Yeah, the ID part is back.

If you're going to have to verify your age in order to sex, do we not say sexting anymore?

We just say sex chat.

Yeah.

Cybering.

Yes, cybering, whatever.

If you have to hand over your ID to a company to then have all your chats, your sex chats recorded, you know, it's going to be recorded.

And

they're going to train on that.

They're going to train on people's sex chats.

You know, it's like.

I think we all realize it's kind of inevitable.

And it is that thing, once again, that old

thing of follow the porn industry, watch where the porn industry goes, because that's the new next big technology.

Yeah, just follow where the dicks are pointing.

Yeah, pretty much.

That's the future.

And it's kind of like, I feel like they've held off on this for a long time.

Like even in discussions where we've talked about humanoid robots, it's like

time to bang.

You know, like,

so how do I have sex with this?

Right.

How long before someone brings up, can we have sex with these things?

It's like, it's almost always.

Will it be self-cleaning?

Gross.

Proving your ID.

I'm going to submit my photo on my profile.

So then when your data is leaked, it's all your sex chats.

And then there's your photo ID.

Your mugshot will be right there along with it.

And the thing is, that's not unprecedented, right?

Was it it was OpenAI and ChatGPT that had some chats that had been indexed on search engines.

Yeah.

Right.

So it's like, it's not like those things haven't gotten out before.

This time, they're just going to be explicit and verified with your ID.

Yeah, and they will be posted together, right?

And that'll be, that'll be a totally different level of, you know, whatever.

And then the crazy thing is when, because it's AI, when there's a leak, there will also be then fake ones people will make to go along with it.

Of course.

And then, and that's going to, you know, what that's going to become, that's going to be coming out for a lot of people.

That, like, they'll just go.

Like, basically, we've heard for the last decade now, fake news.

Now people just go like, that's AI.

Yeah, that's AI.

Not the next thing.

That's not even real.

Not even me.

Bye.

See ya.

Prove it.

You can't prove it.

So,

but I mean, from what I understand, the,

was it the X AI, the like the waifu, the, the, like, Twitter waifu chat bot

did, it like broke servers in Japan.

People were downloading it so much.

There's it like, there's a loneliness epidemic out there.

Also, I want to be clear about something, too.

Sexting with an AI, whatever, if you want to do that, go with God.

Like, I'm not saying even, like, the leak of it is something that people should be held accountable for.

If you want to engage in this stuff, fine.

That's totally fine.

I just like, you can see how when that goes out, it would be scandalous for a lot of people.

And of course, it all depends on the content of whatever you're sexting about.

Sure.

Yeah.

So

we'll, I guess we'll see how.

For instance, like group chats are fine with your friends.

Depending on the content they're of.

You know, if the group chat leaks, it could be fine.

It could be just be like, hey, we're meeting here.

We're meeting there.

Or it could be something entirely different.

Yeah, like let's all get brunch and margaritas.

There we go.

Why are you late again?

That kind of thing.

Yeah, that leaks.

No big deal.

It's pretty typical.

You get home okay?

Yeah, right, exactly.

I'm just watching out for my pals.

So, Ashley, what else is going on in the world besides Tron retiring and us having affairs with our computers?

Well, so I got the Xbox handheld.

And the

embargo on that is up, so I can talk about it now.

Yes.

So to be clear, this was provided to us, this unit was provided to us by Microsoft.

It was, yes.

So I've been using it for

a week and a half, two weeks now.

And just like kind of like seeing how it works.

My basis for comparison is the Steam Deck.

And not the OLED Steam Deck, just like the older model, the one that I got you for your birthday and then stole from you.

So that's my basis for comparison.

I wouldn't say I'm a power user.

So I've been trying to use it in the way that I would use this thing.

And it's got, I don't know man, it's got lots of like pluses and minuses.

One, it's far more powerful,

you know, like the actual horsepower than the Steam Deck is.

So the games on it look really nice.

But for better and for worse, it's also a very Windows experience, more so than an Xbox experience.

So I feel like the Xbox branding

sets certain expectations that you have to do a lot of work to then meet for yourself.

So obviously, it's uh, it's running Windows, uh, and that means it can do word.

I open

what?

Oh, yeah, this thing's got word on it.

Okay, so you know, take that as you want.

It doesn't have a keyboard, it has an on-screen keyboard.

Could you, I know it has a statement that comes with it, so could you Bluetooth a keyboard to it, I assume?

Yeah, yeah, you could.

Uh, and uh, you know, and it's got all that, but it's one thing I really like about it so far is that

it was really easy because it's Windows, um, and because I've used Windows all my life and I know how to use it to also download a bunch of my Steam games and then they appear in the Xbox

app library.

So

it's easy to get the games from various storefronts because I've also, I've got Game Pass

and I was able to pick up where I left my progress on the Xbox in Metaphor Refantasia.

I was able to just pick up the handheld and it just downloaded the Cloud Zave and I was able to keep playing it.

So that was really awesome.

I don't think all games won't necessarily do that.

It's going to depend on their

cross-platform compatibility and the cloud saves and all that.

But for me, it was awesome.

However, it's also going back to it being a very like Windowsy experience, like it's got your Windows login.

And if you have security, it's like you do your pin.

And then you have your desktop.

And I want very different things.

from the interface on like my gaming focused handheld than I want on my like laptop.

But wouldn't that limit your ability to do different things with it if it was just like say the Xbox dashboard and that was it?

That was the total OS experience?

Yeah, I almost, well, and you can kind of set it up so that it

looks like that, but it takes work on your end.

Yeah.

Right.

You can you can set it up so that the Xbox app launches with a full screen experience.

It doesn't do it by default, but you can go into settings and you can set it up so that it launches into this Xbox UI from the beginning.

And then it it shows you all the games you've got installed if

they're installed like via the Xbox app or whether they're installed via Steam.

So you can get to all your games from this interface, which is great.

And you can make it start that way.

I wish they guided you towards doing that a little bit better in the setup, because it feels a lot like a Windows PC setup.

Okay.

Like when you're actually going through and setting everything up and like logging in and everything.

I avoided all that because you did all of that.

I was just sitting there like with my brow scrunched going,

and you're one of the people, the only people I've ever met who had a Windows phone, liked the Windows Phone.

I liked the Windows phone.

Yeah, you enjoyed it.

And you were like, oh, no, they got rid of the Windows phone.

No, I liked, I did.

I liked a lot of things about the Windows Phone.

I liked where they were going with the UI.

I thought it had a lot of potential.

The problem for me with the Windows phone was that it didn't have any of the apps that it needed to.

compete at a basic level.

It didn't have Instagram.

Oh, really?

Yeah.

And you know, they, uh, and Microsoft had like a, like a bounty program, I guess, like a reward program.

They would incentivize developers to publish apps on their platform.

So they could say they had thousands and thousands of apps, but what they didn't have was Instagram or like Uber.

But they did have TiVo for some reason.

My experience with this, when you talk about this thing too, a lot of the discussion tends to focus around the price point of it.

In my opinion, you're either in the market for one of these or you're not, right?

And if gaming is your main form of entertainment, which it is for a lot of people, or specifically like us, where it fit in really well, if you're in a gaming family, I had an amazing experience with it because my experience with it was I was able to play

couch co-op Sea of Thieves with my son.

And there's no other environment in which I could do that.

Like I could not be sitting next to him playing Sea of Thieves together.

No, it was great.

It was you, you were on your PC and

he just sat in a chair next to you and he had the Xbox handheld and he was able to

play Sea of Thieves next to you.

You got on a boat.

You were able to coordinate things together

and have like have that fun, right?

And he the nice thing was it was easy enough for him as well.

Yeah.

And I think like for a household like, and you know, if you're in one of these households where it's like

the Xbox gaming television entertainment center in your house is like a shared commodity and a scarce resource in your house.

Right, you're all fighting over it.

Right.

Then you know then like in that case, this is an excellent addition to a house like that.

And I felt like that was for us.

But you know if you're in the market for that or not.

Yeah.

Right.

I still though, I still want to try cloud gaming.

Like that is something that has escaped me entirely.

And it's like, I guess I've convinced myself it doesn't work and yet people use it all the time.

I'm kind of the same.

I mean to try it because I've refused for so long to try it.

It's one of those things where I see it as an option and I'm like, no, absolutely not.

Because in my head, the latency is going to be too high.

I'm going to be miserable.

It's going to be nothing.

You know what, though?

I thought of a use case for you.

What's that?

Brittany, is you can install Battlefield 6 on this and not worry about the kernel level anti-cheat on your main PC.

See,

that kind of thing is great.

That's why I like it on an Xbox.

But then you're going to have to be playing with thumbsticks against keyboard and mouse people.

Oh, right, right, right.

Because you think you're playing within the PC environment.

Probably.

I don't know how much cross-platform play there there is for Battlefield 6, but you could be in a tricky situation.

It is really actually, though, genuinely something to consider.

When I join Sea of Thieves, if I join from a PC, it tells me I'm playing with all players.

And when I join from an Xbox console, it tells me you're playing with only Xbox people on controllers, which is an important distinction, I think.

You would be in an environment with people playing on.

mouse and keyboard.

But something to consider.

But on the Brian's side, then you have a reason that you can blame for why you're so bad at the game.

Oh, that's nice.

That's nice.

So overall, how do you feel about it?

Thumbs up, thumbs down.

Thumbs up.

I like it.

I wish that the experience to set it up was a little bit more guided or that the version of Windows was maybe a little bit more stripped down

so that it focuses more on the gaming aspect.

But I think that what it does with the gaming is great.

I think it worked great.

I mean, it's like as the gaming household grows and more people in our house are playing games and fighting over the like big screens.

It's so much more of a versatile solution than getting another TV and Xbox to sit there, right?

If somebody else wants to play or something like that.

And then we haven't even used the mobile part of it.

Like, you know, I'm looking forward to taking this on a train and things like that.

Yeah, it can be good for that sort of stuff.

You know, we'll see.

It's like

you did get me a Steam Deck as a gift many years ago.

And I have to admit, I did not use it very much.

But obviously, I'm much more of an Xbox person than I am a Steam person anyway.

Right.

And I, I did, I have used the Steam Deck a lot.

Uh, and I like the way I was able to access PC games on it.

And I really like that it's super easy to access all those games, plus my Xbox games.

And I know you can set up stuff

on the Steam Deck to like access multiple libraries, like the Epic store and all that as well.

But I'm just, I'm not as versed in that as an OS, so it's harder for me.

And this one is like my lifetime os so i know how to do it i'm also one of those people where the games that i play on pc are pc games like i don't think i'd be able to play them without a keyboard because there's too many keys and if that game does exist i'd rather play it on the xbox than i would on the pc anyway because then i can capture the achievements for it and everything like that good examples like I've literally never played Minecraft on the Xbox and I played a ton of it on the PC.

Like, you can't wrap your head around that would even be possible.

Seven Days to Die.

I just, I know they're both on the console.

I just won't play it.

I just won't play them on there.

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We're being invaded by a two-year-old, so we should probably wrap it up.

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