2025.11.07: Responsible Cuts

Speaker 1 Nice dress.

Speaker 2 Thanks. I thought it for Seis.

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Speaker 1 Morning to you, wherever you are,

Speaker 1 because it's morning somewhere

Speaker 1 for

Speaker 1 November 7th, 2025.

Speaker 1 My name is Bernie Burns, sitting right over there. She's in it for just the shoes.
It's Ashley. Say that Ashley Burns, everybody.

Speaker 2 Look, never underestimate the shoes.

Speaker 1 Never underestimate the shoes. We have an interesting

Speaker 1 period upon us now living in Scotland where we have come through Halloween, Ashley. And in America, sometimes people are like, I can't believe Christmas stuff is out already.

Speaker 1 In America, you have a major holiday

Speaker 1 between Halloween and Christmas that we don't have here.

Speaker 2 Right. So it's the day after Halloween, all of America switches gears into Thanksgiving marketing, right?

Speaker 2 So now everything is turkeys and sheaves of wheat and harvesty pumpkins, not spooky pumpkins, but harvesty pumpkins and gourds and stuff and turkeys.

Speaker 2 It's you get, you have this solid like three weeks. maybe four weeks of

Speaker 2 really like heavy Thanksgiving marketing. And then the day after Thanksgiving, it's suddenly like Merry Christmas.
Everything is Christmas, right?

Speaker 2 They don't have the Thanksgiving buffer here. So it's always very confronting when Halloween passes and the 1st of November hits and everyone goes, it's time for Christmas.

Speaker 1 We're in it now.

Speaker 2 Imagine if every store was doing the Mariah Carey thing, right? Where it's like November 1st, bam, this is my time.

Speaker 1 Yeah, she does that, what, the day after Thanksgiving? Is that

Speaker 1 December 1st?

Speaker 2 Oh, no, it's November 1st.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah, like right after Spooky season ends, Mariah Carey season begins. So she already did her thing.
I think so, although I haven't actually seen it yet this year.

Speaker 2 But I did see, I did see the run-ups to it, which is like she's now got entire marketing campaigns about her song spiking in the charts every single year.

Speaker 2 And in addition to the like. It's time one that she does, like the first of November every single year.

Speaker 2 Now she's also got ones that she was doing in the lead up to Halloween where people would try to open the door and she'd go, not yet.

Speaker 1 The weird thing is, like, I can't even find any articles about this because she has some kind of drama going on at the moment, which is dominating all of the headlines.

Speaker 1 This is just the headline from Yahoo. Mariah Carey accused of, quote, mocking the working class in new Sephora holiday ad.
Do you even know what that's about? She's tone deaf in it.

Speaker 2 No, no, I do not. So what it sounds like to me is there is a tone deaf Sephora ad that she must be a spokesman for, but because she said the words, she's taken the heat.

Speaker 1 I'm seeing a lot of adjectives here. Tone deaf, tasteless, out of touch.
The ad created in partnership with Sephora to promote its holidays, its holiday glimmers campaign. Do you know what that is?

Speaker 2 I do not. I'm about to look this up.

Speaker 1 Was meant to celebrate the joy of

Speaker 1 gifting and self-care.

Speaker 1 However, some viewers criticized the storyline, saying that jokes about overworked elves and canceling Christmas felt out of touch, given real-world conversations about mental health and labor.

Speaker 1 So there's your drama for the week. If you didn't have any drama, queued up for the weekend, that's the service we provide.
Now you don't be upset about Mariah Carey.

Speaker 2 I'm mad at Sephora and Mariah Carey.

Speaker 2 Until next week,

Speaker 1 there was the American Eagle Jeans commercial with Sidney Sweeney. Yeah.
And there was a lot of uproar about that. And I thought, ah, that's one of those things that'll

Speaker 1 pass. I feel like it kind of stuck.
Like

Speaker 1 she was on a meteoric rise.

Speaker 2 It's one of those things that is not a thing.

Speaker 1 I think it's the opposite. Meteors fall.
They don't go up.

Speaker 2 That's true.

Speaker 2 But

Speaker 2 you never know if something is going to come along to distract people from your thing or if your thing is going to be the thing that comes along, distracts people from some other thing.

Speaker 2 And then nothing else happens. You're like waiting for like some other, you know, scandal or controversy or drama to draw the attention and then just sort of

Speaker 2 everyone behaves themselves.

Speaker 1 One of the few times

Speaker 1 better to be first, right? If you're going to have a big blow-up drama, you don't want to be the end of the queue because then you get everyone's attention until the next thing.

Speaker 2 Right. Cause then no one has anything else to do.
Although, you know, maybe now the heat will be off because now we're mad at Sephora and Mariah Carey.

Speaker 1 Right. Maybe so.
Maybe so. But like you talk about the distraction.
I could use the distraction of Thanksgiving because I created a really bad situation for myself.

Speaker 1 You know, I already have your first Christmas gift. that is showing you.

Speaker 2 I know you do because you keep asking me if you can give it to me. It is the 7th of November, Bernie.

Speaker 1 This is my particular brand of torture in that if I have a gift for someone and I can think of gifts like months out.

Speaker 2 And I think, okay, my personal philosophy is if you think something's a good gift for somebody buy it right funking then that way you don't have all your expenditures you know at Christmas and also you'll forget yeah it also yeah it saves you I have the problem of like oh that's a great gift I'll get that and it's so good that I'm gonna remember it absolutely yeah it's like when you put something down in a new place you're like how could I ever forget I put it right here yep I like and then and then you it's gone forever so I like your philosophy of thinking of the thing and getting the thing ahead of time, but it comes with you with a really big catch.

Speaker 1 Yes. You could just open the gift and have the gift and I want you to enjoy the gift and have it.
Why do I have to wait all the way till Christmas to give it to you?

Speaker 1 Can't we just open the gift now and sign it a value of Christmas?

Speaker 2 It's just in such a backwards conversation for you to be trying to give me the gift early and me saying, hey, no, Christmas is still like a month and a half away.

Speaker 1 Well, you're the one who brings the gift around and carries it with you wherever you go. So I just think I want to like, because you want to open gifts early.

Speaker 1 So I just want to give you the joy of opening the gift early. Is that so? It is.
Yeah, look behind that pillar right there. There it is.

Speaker 1 Did you? Do you want to open it?

Speaker 1 Do you want to open it? It's right there.

Speaker 1 How did it end up in this room with us?

Speaker 2 Merry Christmas is so far away.

Speaker 1 I know. It's going to be awful.
It's going to be really bad for two months now. I'm going to be like, oh, just open your gifts.
I don't want to fuse.

Speaker 2 Can I give you a distraction? We have a little girl's birthday coming up. Oh, right.
In a couple of weeks. So if you need to distract yourself, please distract yourself with her.

Speaker 1 She was almost a Thanksgiving baby. She was really close.

Speaker 2 She was 20 minutes off being a Thanksgiving turkey.

Speaker 1 Not that that matters because then they don't have that.

Speaker 1 Or it falls on a different day of the year every year. You know what I mean? So it won't, being a Thanksgiving baby doesn't make a lot of sense.
What do you think if we celebrated Thanksgiving here?

Speaker 1 Because we kind of do some stuff out of obligation. We feel like we have to do, like a Thanksgiving thing, but you can't get all the stuff, right?

Speaker 1 Not everything we get. What's the hardest thing to get for Thanksgiving meal here?

Speaker 2 I don't know. The thing is,

Speaker 2 the holidays are treated differently here. So what we're used to doing in the U.S.
is we have a Thanksgiving turkey and then we have a Christmas ham.

Speaker 2 But in the UK, they generally do a Christmas turkey because they haven't already used up all their turkey holidays.

Speaker 1 Or the goose. Does anybody eat goose anymore?

Speaker 2 No, I feel like that's more.

Speaker 2 I feel like that's very like a Christmas carol kind of like era tradition, right? That maybe

Speaker 2 sticks around occasionally, but mostly turkeys are easy to get your hands on.

Speaker 1 That's a good point. I think a lot of Americans know about British culture via Victorian literature.
That's it.

Speaker 2 Right. Please, sir, can I have some more?

Speaker 1 I was always astounded, too. I always thought that.
the Willy Wonka was like something from the same era.

Speaker 2 Isn't it from the 70s?

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's like, it's not that old. The Charlie and the Chocolate Factory.

Speaker 2 I thought that was like Christmas Carol era no no rolled doll is surprisingly modern but you would be forgiven for thinking that it's a lot older because it does have a lot of the sort of the the darker undertones that we're used to seeing in a lot of like the classic groom's fairy tales and a lot of the more classic storytelling you know the stuff that we don't terrify kids with now like a witch turned you into a mouse and is going to try to like feed you to her cat or something.

Speaker 1 Everyone died from the plague.

Speaker 2 Or everyone died from the plague.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
It's also weird too. It's like, I feel another person like that, another creator artist, is Picasso.
And when people find out he died in the 70s, they're like, what? The 1970s? Picasso?

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's weird. That Picasso? Yeah, that Picasso.
Did you know he was like that recent in history, Picasso?

Speaker 2 I knew that he was surprisingly contemporary to the Campbell soup guy. Okay.
Okay. And that you wouldn't call those two artists being contemporaries.

Speaker 2 Like, that's not just something that you would think of in your mind because the styles are so different. Uh, but that yes, they were operating around, you know, at least in the same era.

Speaker 1 I got to ask, who is the Campbell soup guy? Can you name him? No, no, that's just off the top of your head.

Speaker 2 That's why I called him the Campbell soup guy because I don't know.

Speaker 1 You must be talking about Andy Warhol.

Speaker 2 Guy, yes, I am.

Speaker 1 I knew a lot about Andy Warhol at an early age because one of my friends in our theater group, John Jenkins, John was obsessed with Andy Warhol.

Speaker 1 So I knew all about Andy Warhol when I was growing up for some reason. For some reason.

Speaker 2 He's also did the Marilyn Monroe one, right?

Speaker 1 Is that also Andy Warhol? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
He would do like the collage art and things like that. He did a lot of stuff.
A lot of stuff.

Speaker 1 And then Basquiat was like in his

Speaker 1 halo of artists that he, and Basquiat, I think, made. a bajillion paintings.
I want to say he made like 25,000 paintings.

Speaker 1 But after all, even like Picasso at the end of his life, he was like paying for meals by just like drawing on napkins and handing them to people. And they were totally fine with that, which I get.

Speaker 2 I feel like to be that prolific an artist, you would also have to be

Speaker 2 pretty good at selling your art, getting people to buy your art just to afford that much canvas.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Like, how many ship sales is 25,000 pieces of art?

Speaker 1 How many ship sales is?

Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly. Unless you're storing the art in the Louvre, and then I guess you just, all you need to do to steal it is know the password.

Speaker 2 Oh my God.

Speaker 1 Louvre security system.

Speaker 2 So as this, as my new favorite story for the year continues to unfold, we now have details.

Speaker 2 So they've arrested even more people and it's come out that part of the reason that they were having trouble getting security footage of the

Speaker 2 incident is because the thieves were able to infiltrate the rock solid security. of their

Speaker 2 their monitoring equipment because they named it things like

Speaker 2 Louvre. That was the password to their video video surveillance.
It was like Louvre. And there was another one too.
It was like the name of the brand.

Speaker 1 Oh, you know what we should do? We should link in the link dump today.

Speaker 1 There's a tool online

Speaker 1 that JD sent to me, which is, it's for a password manager. But the cool thing is, even if you don't use this particular password manager, they have a tool that you can type in a password.

Speaker 1 It's not locally on your computer, or you can do something similar, to see how long it would take to hack your password, just for brute force guessing it.

Speaker 1 And I think Louvre would probably be about five seconds.

Speaker 1 Not that they even did that, they probably just guessed it, right?

Speaker 2 Right. Did no one teach them the like four-word trick or whatever? You know,

Speaker 2 like at least try a two-word trick.

Speaker 1 Right. Just try something that's got some level of entropy to it at all.

Speaker 2 Right. I mean, they were making fun of this in space balls, like one, two, three, four, five.
Right. It's the same combination on my luggage.
Everyone's on the list.

Speaker 2 This is, yeah, like everyone has made fun of that,

Speaker 2 that simple level. It's putting it as a Louvre is the same as making your password password or admin.

Speaker 1 I don't like, though, when I go to some sites and you go to make a password as you're making an account and they have special rules like, oh, you got to have a special character, but then also what qualifies as a special character or what's allowed and what's not allowed.

Speaker 1 It's like, I, for security, it makes sense that we wouldn't all be on the same page because that makes it easier to figure things out.

Speaker 1 At the same time, it's like, I hate when they're like, oh, you put like two of the same number in a row. You can't do that.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Or there's like this one that's like,

Speaker 2 or there's just this one site that's like, oh, no, you can't start with a number.

Speaker 1 Right. Right.
When we're bitching about stuff like that, too. Yeah.
Okay. Go ahead.
One of my pet peeves

Speaker 1 across all of technology these days is in forms, usually on mobile phones, when you go to enter something in, if it's an email field and they have that auto capitalize the first letter.

Speaker 1 If they auto capitalize the first letter in my email, I have to correct it. It's like, I know it won't make a difference.
It's unacceptable to me. Unacceptable.

Speaker 1 Cannot stand that. But yeah, this password tool is really cool because on the fly, as you're entering in characters, it tells you the strength of the password.

Speaker 1 And then it gives you a cool metric of like, how long would it take to just like hack or brute force this password?

Speaker 1 And then you see, even if you add just like another character, it's like, that's another seven years on this or something.

Speaker 1 Or if you add a number or if you change the spelling of an actual dictionary word, it completely changes it. It's cool.
I think it's a fun exercise for security.

Speaker 2 I always do like when you go to sign up for a password or like for a new account and there's the password field, and then it tells you to make the password, and then it grades you on the strength of your password as you're putting it in.

Speaker 2 And I get to like, once it gets to strong, I'm always like, Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 1 Well, that was strong. I love when we have little tests too, of like metrics for the audience.
We had an interesting one this week.

Speaker 1 Like, I'm curious how many people will now go to the subreddit based on what I'm about to say, versus how many people will go to the password.

Speaker 1 We had a test yesterday where somebody made a not safe for work post in the subreddit, and you didn't see it.

Speaker 2 I didn't see it. So, yes.

Speaker 1 It was a way to find out if, like, you have not safe for work set up on Reddit. You have no not safe for work post displayed to you.

Speaker 2 How do you? I guess not.

Speaker 1 What are you even doing? I don't know.

Speaker 2 I don't know where. I didn't know this was a setting that you could even do.
I don't, is this an age verification thing? Do I need to turn on a VP?

Speaker 2 I don't even know what it is, but I didn't see this post. And it was a contributor specifically talking about

Speaker 2 the use of stripper heels in pole dancing and how it like helps, like they're like, they're specifically formed and shaped to help you pull off some of the moves.

Speaker 1 And our continuing trend of someone in the audience is an expert. Expert in everything.
Yeah. Somebody, we will find an expert in something.

Speaker 1 A lady, can you look up her name here?

Speaker 2 I can't because I can't see it. I had to like switch to another account to see it.

Speaker 1 Her account is the lingerie cowgirl on Reddit, and she made a post. She is a competitive pole dancer.

Speaker 1 And so, but she posted what was her most safe for work photo, which is her in thong with some stripper butt. And so it had to be marked as not safe for work.

Speaker 2 So, Bernie, I'm going to ask you a pop quiz. Yes.
What color were her shoes?

Speaker 1 I don't like being tested.

Speaker 1 I'm going to say with a high degree of confidence that they were, they were red.

Speaker 2 They were red.

Speaker 1 Well done.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 But it was, yeah, so stripper butt on the subreddit was a test to see who now has who has not safe or work set up on their Reddit and who does not. You do not have it set up.

Speaker 1 And I don't know how you're using Reddit that you don't have access to any.

Speaker 2 I don't know either. And it's something that like, I guess I'm just like an innocent little butterfly because I didn't even know that it wasn't a thing that I couldn't see.

Speaker 1 Wow. That's crazy.
So you're missing like 80% of Reddit.

Speaker 2 I guess so. Yeah.
I guess so.

Speaker 1 All the fun parts. The bar has been raised now.
So meteorologist Steve, step up your game. That's all I got to say.

Speaker 2 Basically, the next time you're an expert, send photos.

Speaker 1 All that talk about low-pressure supercells, it's not going to cut it anymore.

Speaker 1 It's not going to cut it anymore.

Speaker 1 So I love it. So we got a full breakdown on shoes that strippers wears.
They're called pleasers. Is that right? You don't have it in front of you.

Speaker 1 So did you not turn on the not safer work flags? I think in the iPhone, you have to go into your actual iPhone settings to allow it. And then where we live, you'd also have to be on a VPN.

Speaker 2 Well, this is clearly account-based because I was able to switch to like a different account and see it.

Speaker 2 So it worked eventually. So it must be like an account level setting that I have just saying like, no, no, no, keep my eyes innocent.

Speaker 1 Different account? Oh, you switched to our. Moderator account?

Speaker 2 Yeah, I switched to our mod account.

Speaker 1 The one I've been running. So I immediately went through and turned on all the not safe for work stuff.

Speaker 1 Man, moderators, it would make sense if like.

Speaker 2 If moderators could see everything.

Speaker 1 Yeah, if a moderator just becomes like you automatically have to see the not safe for work stuff.

Speaker 2 I mean, otherwise, how are you going to mod?

Speaker 1 What's that?

Speaker 2 If you don't see it, how are you going to mod it?

Speaker 1 I like the term not safe for work too, because it's clearly safe for our work, right?

Speaker 2 Right. Safe for whose work? Who's judging? Who's judging? Really? Is it safe for meta to download for personal use?

Speaker 1 I love this trend that we can talk about anything and there is someone who is an expert in that field.

Speaker 2 It's great. I feel like I learned so much.

Speaker 1 We need to manifest a little bit on that. How about

Speaker 1 people who

Speaker 2 are stuck in space?

Speaker 1 Manage estates for elderly people who have no relatives or heirs.

Speaker 1 How about that? That's who we want to target.

Speaker 2 So I have a thing, though. There's more people stuck in space.
So we're going to have an increasing pool of people who are experts in that field.

Speaker 2 And at some point, at some point, one of them is going to listen to this podcast.

Speaker 1 People stuck in space is a growth industry at this point in time. I wish there was a way to invest in that.

Speaker 1 You were saying earlier that your favorite story of the year is turning out to be this museum heist.

Speaker 1 People getting stuck in space again, it's just like it is a throwback to last year, to 2024. But yeah, I can't believe this story is happening again so quickly.

Speaker 2 Yeah. So this is specifically, it's a trio of

Speaker 2 Chinese astronauts who have been stranded because their return capsule, they suspect was struck by debris. And so they,

Speaker 2 the way they do it is they go up for six-month shifts, basically. So they've been up for six months, and their return was scheduled for the 5th of November.

Speaker 2 They weren't able to make the return because they're concerned that there's damage to their return capsule.

Speaker 2 So there's another team that was going to relieve them that is now also on board their space station and is planned to be there for six months.

Speaker 2 And so the plan is at the moment that the team will go back with the team that's just come up to relieve them right so instead of being three astronauts on the space station for six months it's going to be six of them so it's going to be a little bit a little bit cramped but it's also a little bit like

Speaker 2 did you ever have when you were younger right you catch a ride with someone to the mall You do your stuff, you know, you buy your, you know, Pokemon cards or whatever, you're done.

Speaker 2 But now you've got to wait for them because they're the one who drove. And so you have to wait for them to finish whatever they're doing before you get to go home.

Speaker 2 So you're just bumming around the mall for like an extra hour or two. This is kind of like that, except in space for six months.

Speaker 1 Right, exactly. You know, Butch and Sonny should get representation, like a PR agent, because they're going to be called a lot for interviews.

Speaker 2 To like speak on this.

Speaker 1 They're like the only experts in the world about this particular topic.

Speaker 2 Well, it makes me wonder too, though, like at some point, right? At some point, we'll have to get like space Uber or something in place because so many people are getting stranded.

Speaker 2 You can get, like, if you're in New York, you can Uber a helicopter out of Manhattan or something, right? Like from the, from Manhattan to the airport or something like that.

Speaker 2 You can Uber a helicopter if you try hard enough. How long until we get like

Speaker 2 a space Uber?

Speaker 2 That's like, oh, hey, I got stranded. Can you come pick me up?

Speaker 1 You know, it's funny because

Speaker 1 I thought I'll do that for the vlog. It could be interesting.
I'm 90%

Speaker 1 sure I cut that out of the vlog because once I did it, I think it was like, it was expensive. It was like 300 bucks to go from Manhattan to the airport.

Speaker 1 But it's like a once-in-a-lifetime thing of like

Speaker 1 a helicopter.

Speaker 2 Also, isn't a taxi to the airport, depending on traffic, like $150?

Speaker 1 I did the math on it. It was like, it was going to be like $150 to take a cab to the airport with all the fees and everything like that.

Speaker 2 New York is expensive. So if you copter pool, right, right,

Speaker 2 if you copter pool with like one other person who is then also not needing a taxi to the airport, you break even, right?

Speaker 1 You got to stop over their like workplace and they parachute out, right? You got to make all these stops along the way, yeah.

Speaker 2 There, there is going to be an extra

Speaker 2 stop in space, you know. We have to go pick up some astronauts, and then we'll get you to your stop.

Speaker 1 No, do you remember the other thing I cut from the vlog? I thought this is this, we this would be funny and interesting, but I felt like this is just weird. What was it? We went to Las Vegas, and

Speaker 1 you and I had to do a thing for GameStop. And I was like the keynote for the first day.
I want to say Troy Baker was the second day. Who's the third guy for the GameStop conference?

Speaker 2 I don't remember, but yeah, it was the, it was, it was a three-day thing and

Speaker 2 I was there doing some sort of interstitial things. You were the host for the whole thing.
Yeah, like between

Speaker 2 segments.

Speaker 2 And so I had to be there all three days, like at the event. But you only had to be there for one of the days.
So you got to go like party it up the other days.

Speaker 1 For the other days, but I was going to stay in Vegas with you. I was going to abandon my partner in Vegas as somebody did.
Oh, what?

Speaker 2 You just say that because I abandoned you.

Speaker 1 Yes, that's true. You abandoned me in Vegas.
We decided, this is such a long story.

Speaker 1 There was something we had to do in Vegas, and then we had to be in Vegas seven days later for something else, which was an award show. That was the

Speaker 2 it was, it was like CES and an awards show, or two different awards shows that were a week apart, right?

Speaker 1 And so we thought, had this brilliant idea, we'll just stay in Vegas for for a week. Boy, after like three days, Vegas is a slog.

Speaker 1 Like at least the tourism part of Vegas, it was just like, it was too much. It was too much.
And you actually left.

Speaker 2 I did. I did.
Well, in my defense.

Speaker 1 We made this plan together and you bolted.

Speaker 2 In my defense, I had a bad feeling about something that was happening at work at the time. And it turned out, I'm glad I listened to that spidey sense because I got back and I was like, what the fuck?

Speaker 1 That was, that was IGN though.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that was when I was at IGN.

Speaker 1 You lived in San Francisco and I lived in Austin.

Speaker 2 Yeah. And so it like, that was like an easy half-hour helicopter Uber for me, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 2 so yeah, I, yes, I abandoned you in Vegas, but you weren't going to abandon me.

Speaker 1 So what we did, I'd always heard about this, and this got cut. I always heard about this, where you can hire this service in Vegas.
These are two completely unrelated trips.

Speaker 1 The GameStop one is different. So the GameStop thing,

Speaker 1 I was there for two or three days while you were working and I thought, okay, there is this service in Vegas where you can get an IV and rehydrate yourself if you're super hungover.

Speaker 2 God, that sounds like such a Vegas thing.

Speaker 1 It sounded, it was, I thought it was exclusive to Vegas. It was one of these things you can only do in Las Vegas.
And so we decided, hey, we're going to try this and see if it works.

Speaker 1 But the first part about that is you've got to get drunk enough to get hungover.

Speaker 1 And I was at a point where I was like, I didn't want to do anything drinking related for content or on camera, right? It was a, it was, there used to be a lot more of that stuff.

Speaker 1 And even later, when like people would like watch like E3 drunk and stuff like that, I was like, you know,

Speaker 1 especially in the later years, I felt like weirdly enough, the audience got younger over time, not older over time. Yeah, absolutely.
I was more careful about stuff like that.

Speaker 1 But this was something I just thought would be an interesting idea. The vlog audience was definitely older.
I did a vlog for one year exactly for Rooster Teeth.

Speaker 1 I did a bunch of like kind of like solo projects towards the end of my run at Rooster Teeth. This was one of them.
And so yeah, so I went out and got really drunk the night before.

Speaker 1 And then to its credit, it worked amazing. Like that was, it worked really, really well.
Like getting the IV, I couldn't believe it how well it worked.

Speaker 2 Is that one of those things though that like you almost wish you didn't know worked so well? Kind of like

Speaker 2 if you ever get upgraded to like business class on a long flight and you're better off not knowing? Yeah, it's almost like then because then you have that basis for compression.

Speaker 2 You're like, oh, if only I, you know, would, you know, spend like five times the amount, I could actually be comfortable right now.

Speaker 1 Well, that was the thing about it. I think the service was called Blade.
I don't know if it still exists. I think I learned about it from Casey Neistat.
And

Speaker 1 it was, if I lived in New York, that would be awful because a five-minute trip to LaGuardia or JFK or wherever we went versus an hour and a half like fighting New York traffic with a cab driver, it was like,

Speaker 1 would spend a lot of your time trying to justify the cost, right?

Speaker 2 Right.

Speaker 2 Do you think if you have like an Uber helicopter, are they obligated, like is it part of the social contract for them to like complain about all of the other Uber helicopters while you're taking a ride?

Speaker 1 What is that, by the way?

Speaker 2 It's like a professional. There are certain professional expectations for various industries.

Speaker 2 One of them is that if you have a driver, they're going to complain about other drivers or other types of drivers.

Speaker 2 If you have like a, like a joiner or tradesman, they have to come in and tell you what a terrible job the guy before them did.

Speaker 1 Cab drivers hate Uber with a passion. And they like the entire, they are the best advertisement for Uber.

Speaker 1 We don't get in a lot of cabs. When we would travel more for work, like this kind of stuff, we'd get in cabs much more frequently.

Speaker 1 And God, it was the best advertisement for Uber because cab drivers would talk about Uber all the fucking time.

Speaker 2 And the thing is, I actually get it because a lot of taxi drivers spend a lot of money for their taxi licenses and all this sort of stuff and then here come the the uber drivers just driving around in their own cars have not having to do any of that regulatory stuff right so i understand the frustration but when you spend like a half hour telling me about how like uber is undercutting your prices and all this stuff and making it all you know extra difficult for you because they're so cheap You're kind of marketing Uber, buddy.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
And I should have looked ahead too because I thought like the helicopter thing was too much, but it was like $150.

Speaker 1 Another thing about this too, the vlog is that like everything that I did was out of pocket. Like even sending Ellie to sniper school and stuff like that, I paid for all that stuff, right?

Speaker 1 None of that stuff was like a budget from Rooster Teeth or anything like that.

Speaker 1 Paying $150 to do that one time for like a cool part of a video, that's like nowadays, like someone's monthly budget for Uber Eats for Taco Bell. You know what I mean? For all the fees they pay.

Speaker 1 God, I go on that. I go on the Uber.
I don't know why. I go on like the DoorDash subreddit on Reddit.

Speaker 1 It's incredible, incredible what people buy on DoorDash for like snacks and for Taco Bell and just so they don't have to get up and get out of their house.

Speaker 1 It's like, dude, you can get Taco Bell for like 10 bucks, right? You don't have to pay 30 bucks for your Taco Bell order. It's insane.

Speaker 2 I feel like that's ethically opposed to everything that Taco Bell stands for. Yeah.
Yeah. Taco Bell stands for like $10 edible garbage.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 2 So that's so delicious. As you're putting it in your body, you know that this is a terrible idea and that you're going to do it anyway.
And it's going to taste so good.

Speaker 1 It's like pre-digested.

Speaker 1 It's already been chewed once for me.

Speaker 1 I still love it. When we go, next time we go back to America, I like Taco Bell is always on my list of places that I want to go.

Speaker 2 It's on my list.

Speaker 1 There's they have it here, but it's different.

Speaker 2 I know. I was in Aberdeen recently and I drove past the Taco Bell and I thought, do I want to stop and get Taco Bell?

Speaker 2 And inside I was like, yes, I do. I want, you know, I want Taco Bell.
I want that. And I didn't stop because the follow-up to that was, girl, it's not the same.
You know, it's not the same.

Speaker 2 It's not, it's,

Speaker 2 it's that sort of like 90% close that almost makes it worse.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
Aberdeen, also, by the way, no Uber. You remember when you first moved to Austin? I mean, San Francisco probably had every tech product in the world when you lived there working for IGN.

Speaker 1 They probably had every single like gig economy, new thing started in San Francisco.

Speaker 2 I think Uber has finally come to Aberdeen. Has it really? I think so.

Speaker 2 I think it finally hit Aberdeen, but it was for a really long time.

Speaker 1 You know, it was banned in Austin for a while.

Speaker 2 Was it? He wasn't. Well, that's right.
They left for a short period of time, right?

Speaker 2 And so then there were the other services that managed to get more of a foothold in Austin because Uber stopped operating. It was over some legal holdup, I think, or like they were playing chicken.

Speaker 2 with legislation. And so they pulled out for a while.

Speaker 1 Austin also gets a lot of shit because, and some of it deservedly so, because it has made a huge pivot towards the tech bro, like alt-right media world.

Speaker 1 But it was also like when we lived there, like they fought, like they kept Uber out for a while.

Speaker 1 Do you remember when we moved from Zilker Park, which is like a very historic, like little bungalow houses, uh, little neighborhood in Austin?

Speaker 1 We did talk about, hey, what if, what would the economics be of like keeping this house and paying the mortgage and just turning it into an Airbnb? Sorry, everybody.

Speaker 1 We did look investigate being part of the problem. We couldn't do it though, because in our neighborhood, you needed to have a license to do Airbnb and they had limited all the licenses.

Speaker 1 So Austin gets a lot of shit for being now the tech bro mecha of the world. But historically, you know, they've always kept that kind of stuff at bay as best they could, you know?

Speaker 2 As best they could.

Speaker 1 As best they could.

Speaker 2 As best they could. You can only hold back the tide of progress so much, but it did try.

Speaker 1 Or, you know, when the dam finally breaks, it feels like much more of a flood at that point in time, which is how the last 10 years in Austin have been, for sure.

Speaker 2 I guess so. I guess so.
All right.

Speaker 2 Well, before we go for the weekend, because I know we're already running a little bit long, I do want, there is one piece of current event news I don't want to miss, and that is that GTA 6 has been delayed.

Speaker 2 So it was already, I think it was already delayed once, but it's now been pushed. Fucking losers.
Again, so it's November 2026.

Speaker 2 And I just feel like all of the other major media in the world has to be like, hey, can you guys like pick a date and like stick to it?

Speaker 2 Because we're tired of moving all our like movies and our other releases out of your release window. Okay.
We're trying to clear the way, but you help us. Okay.
Like is doomsday comes out in December.

Speaker 2 Are they going to move?

Speaker 1 Would they move back to May? I think we talked about that. Or would they pull themselves forward? Didn't we?

Speaker 1 Didn't we say there was everyone was kind of scattering away from May 2026, but that some people were going to hold their ground. And that if GTA gets delayed again, then they're like, they got roses.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they're going to be like now in like a no man's land where nothing else is coming out around them. Like GTA is going to move through the media calendar, like wipe everything else out.

Speaker 2 Yeah, so it's, I guess it's not a huge, huge surprise that it slipped. I think it was kind of like, you know, this, it could hit this date or it could go again.
And it's, it's delayed again.

Speaker 2 But yeah, so it's not coming out for another year now.

Speaker 1 There was, there's all this like

Speaker 1 Marvel. news that people like leaks.
It's, it's always tough because a lot of times Reddit will do this thing of like, hey, you like Marvel movies? How about this one? Here's Marvel spoilers.

Speaker 1 Here's Marvel Leaks. And here's a goddamn headline that's a spoiler.
That's so.

Speaker 2 Is a mark does not stay for work? Because if so, I haven't seen it.

Speaker 1 Oh, that would be nice if people would do that. Or even like if you don't see spoiler stuff.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 there was Brie Larson went to go vote on Tuesday, and people were analyzing that she had a wig on, which means they're now into reshoots for Doomsday.

Speaker 1 So highly unlikely they could make a May date, even if they moved it back.

Speaker 2 Well, but if they could come forward, because I guess so, if GTA is postponed to November, right now, Doomsday is scheduled for December.

Speaker 2 Is December far enough away? Is one month enough to be away from GTA, or do you want to come forward to like October?

Speaker 1 I think probably these days, yeah. Yeah, you can be that far away.
You know, you're going to see an hour and a half. Maybe it's an Avengers movie, for God's sake.
People are going to go see it, right?

Speaker 2 Right. One would think so, yes.

Speaker 1 If I was Marvel, I'd be way more worried about all the weird pastiche of Phase 5 movies they made, which now don't make any sense whatsoever, right?

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah, there's a lot of that stuff that's like

Speaker 2 now not making a whole lot of sense from an ongoing narrative standpoint. Yeah, but I, you know, I will reserve judgment until we see how it all ties together in the actual Avengers movie.

Speaker 1 That GTA, one of the most anticipated media properties in the world, got delayed. And so

Speaker 2 we were talking, we're in the Marvel movie. We still ended up in the Marvel sinkhole.

Speaker 1 That's right. But are you, does that bother you? GTA being delayed? Like, does that worry you, concern you, upset you, or anything at all?

Speaker 2 It's one of those games that's been

Speaker 2 expected for so long and that people have been waiting for it so long.

Speaker 2 I feel like at some point you've practiced waiting for it and you've gotten so good at it that a delay really doesn't hit you too much. There's this other game.
It's on a scale similar to GTA 6.

Speaker 2 It's called Witchbrook.

Speaker 1 Get out of here. Get out of here.

Speaker 2 It's an indie game that I think got announced in like 2016 or something.

Speaker 2 And it's this game where like you go to like a witch academy and you go, like you live in a little witch town and all this, like it looks really, really cute. That sort of slice of life

Speaker 2 game that in its pixel art, it looks absolutely adorable. I've been anticipating this game since it was announced in 2016.

Speaker 2 And they finally announced that this game was going to come out winter of 2025. And I was like, oh, hell yeah.
I've been waiting for this game for like 10 years.

Speaker 2 And then not long ago, they go, actually, we're not going to make, we're not going to make 2025. We're not going to make this winter.
So it's delayed. And I went, that's fine.
It's more waiting.

Speaker 2 I'm good at waiting for this one.

Speaker 1 Well, compared to this, just a big Halo announcement where not only did they have gameplay footage of it, people were actually hands-on with it and could tell you their experience with playing Halo Campaign Evolved.

Speaker 1 That has a nebulous 2026 release date.

Speaker 2 Even though it's playable.

Speaker 1 It wasn't, they're not saying like May of 2026, which is what they were saying with GTA. We haven't even seen any gameplay footage from GTA 6.
No, no. Just cinematic trailers.

Speaker 2 Yeah, they're like they, the thing is, they know that they can do whatever they want to at this point, and it's GTA and it's going to work.

Speaker 1 It's going to work. And also, how weird is it?

Speaker 1 If you think about it, too, just the timeline within that franchise itself from GTA one to two, do they have, do you have a list and we can see the actual years they came out?

Speaker 1 What I'm getting at here is there's this overall trend, even across everything, movies, television, everything. Movies have always had some years between them.

Speaker 1 But like TV, if you liked a TV show, you got a new season of that TV show with 22 episodes. You got it every single year.
Every single year. Yep.
Every single year. And then

Speaker 1 we make more media. And because we make more media and we're so much better at making media, somehow now the gap between the installments has gotten longer and longer and longer.

Speaker 2 Tell me about it, buddy. They just announced K-Pop's Demon Hunters 2 for 2029.

Speaker 1 I saw that headline and I thought of you immediately. I thought of you.

Speaker 2 So, okay. GTA 1, November November 1997.

Speaker 2 GTA London was 99.

Speaker 2 GTA 2, October 99.

Speaker 2 GTA 3, 2001. Vice City, 2002.

Speaker 2 GTA Advance, if you can't, that 2004. San Andreas was 2004.

Speaker 2 And then, let's see, Liberty City stories, Vice City stories. And then we had GTA 4, 2008.
And then you had like Lost and Damned, Battle of Gay Tony, the expansions. GTA 5, 2013.

Speaker 2 So we're now like five years.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 So from the from the last year.

Speaker 1 We were five years apart now. We're up to 12 years apart.

Speaker 2 You know, honestly, I kind of blame GTA Online for that. GTA Online has been so lucrative for them and has made them so much money that it's like

Speaker 2 they don't need to rush anything.

Speaker 1 Right. There will be the potentially, think about this.

Speaker 1 There will be teenagers who will be too young to play GTA 6 because they're below the age, but they will not have been born when the last GTA was out. Teenagers, right? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, why would they even pick it up at that point? Just because it's a new cool game.

Speaker 2 Well, also, they've re-released GTA 5 like eight times.

Speaker 1 Right. I also got to call myself on something.
We say we haven't, I said we haven't seen any gameplay footage. We've only seen a cinematic trailer.

Speaker 1 I don't know that those two things will be indistinguishable from each other. It's entirely possible that it might be just a seamless kind of experience for GTA 6.

Speaker 2 We're definitely trending in that direction overall.

Speaker 1 Yeah, man. Yeah.
And if anyone's going to push that envelope, that will be rock star for sure. Yes.
If it ever comes out, we might be in like the 1984, like double speak era with GT6.

Speaker 1 It's like we've always been one year away from GTX.

Speaker 1 20 years from now, I'll be like, it's coming out November 2020.

Speaker 2 It's coming in a year.

Speaker 1 2037.

Speaker 2 Well, before we go for the weekend, let's say a big thank you to today's sponsors, Garrett Lawless and Wayfaring.

Speaker 2 Thank you both so much for sponsoring this episode of our show at patreon.com/slash morning somewhere and rush your teeth.com.

Speaker 1 And thank you to Alex Walter for today's Morning Somewhere shout. All right, well, that does it for us this week ending November 7th, 2025.
We're going to be back on Monday to talk to you.

Speaker 1 We hope you will be here as well.

Speaker 1 Bye, everybody.

Speaker 2 Bye, everybody. Sorry.