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Trust me, Jason.

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Our guest is Super Bowl MVP, Mr.

Julian Edelman, baby.

What's up?

What an intro.

What an intro.

Woke was like one of the best route runners I've ever seen.

Like the first couple years when I was with him, I was like, this dude's a fucking monster.

He was so small and so quick.

Even on a press coverage, he could get like four steps in.

He'd be doing his head shit.

He could get guys to turn their hips and just

and get in.

Like his release came and his routes, they were fucking sick.

And, you know, honestly, it was a huge part of, you know, how I got to learn the position.

You know, I came in playing quarterback so you know so like i got to watch him and i got to take tidbits from fucking randy moss joey galloway like all these guys and even what's randy telling you just be bigger and faster than everybody and jump up and guess what like i just remember randy how hey dules hey dudes

he used to call me edelnut

hey edelnut get my hot tub about 103 and get my gator ray

That's what we used to have the metal tubs.

Yes.

You know, you have metal tubs and hot tub.

Yes.

He never wanted to go on the regular hot tub he had to have his own shit with the look he had to have this uh it was like menthol rubbing alcohol in there

and he'd go adelnut go get my towel my gator a make that hot tub about 103 102 don't it up

this one time what a lesson yes sir

this one time randy it was like the day before christmas and we had to work we had a game on christmas or something and randy was talking to his mom and i just walked by i was like hey hey randy tell mama moss i said you know, Merry Christmas.

He goes, Edelnut, when I'm talking to my motherfucking mom, you shut the fuck up.

I literally went like this.

I looked at

and I fucking just, I walked away to make eye contact.

I was so scared.

I was a rookie.

He's like, don't you fucking talk to me when I'm talking to my mom.

But he'd always love me up too, you know?

Of course.

Yeah.

But like you could learn things from him like how he tracked the ball like Like in one-on-ones, he would sit and run and it looked like he wasn't running and the ball would come.

And we all know that the DBs play hands.

You throw your hands out there, DBs are going to try to come through.

He would just run and the ball would come right there and he just boop and just pop his little hands out the last second.

So you could take things from anyone.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Especially as a route runner.

Was Welker, like, did he help you out with the route running and all this stuff?

Or was it more just like watching him do it?

Watching.

You know, I love Welk to death, you know, but he was kind of like the asshole older brother.

You know what I mean?

Like, I was there to take his job and he was there to.

Well, that ended up happening when he got hurt, right?

And he kind of got out of here.

I know what an asshole older brother is, man.

That is, it's a tough position to be in as the younger brother.

I feel like I could be way more of an asshole.

Oh, you thought I was talking about you.

Did you actually take Jerry Rice's daughter to prom and try on the Super Bowl ring?

Was that real?

She took me to her prom.

Ooh.

Ooh.

And yes, I did to wear those Super Bowl rings.

That's all.

Sorry, Jerry.

I used to go into his office all the time.

He was never home.

So I'd be over there playing with balls.

I saw jerseys.

It was crazy.

Jerry Rice, bro, I was a Bay Area kid.

He was a fucking legend.

I mean, the record setter himself.

It was so crazy, and they had such a cool house.

Man.

I remember the first flashback right now.

First time I met him, dude came out yoked up, six-packed up with his chain on.

He had his fucking dreads that are starting back here.

He was old Jerry by then.

Oakland, Jerry?

Oakland Jerry.

He intimidated the fuck out of me.

Yeah.

Yeah, he wasn't having it.

Which I understand.

I have a daughter.

I have a daughter.

I'm a father of one.

Number 95, Chiefs Defensive Tackle, Chris Stone Cold

Jones.

Where are we at here?

If we're sticking to it, it's the Combine.

Nice, the Combine, man.

I want to talk about it.

You had

one of the most electric combine moments I think has ever

uh gone on national television, man.

Yes, let's just talk about it, you know, yeah.

Let's talk about it, big one.

How'd that 40-yard dashboard?

I'm gonna be honest with you, bro.

I was I was so big on being different from everyone, everybody was wearing the fucking long tights.

I was like, you know what?

I ain't like going out there and copying everybody.

I'm gonna wear the short tights.

I didn't realize they was boxers, bro.

I didn't realize they was boxers, bro.

I understand

God.

And you know, they put you in the trains when you're standing and come by.

It's like these, the rooms are like little train cabins.

I could barely see, so I'm just grabbing them.

I'm like, I'm gonna put these on.

I'm gonna run in these.

Fucking get out there.

Everybody is looking crazy.

I'm like, let's do it.

Oh, my gosh.

Well, it made you faster, man.

It made you so fast, you tripped over your feet.

Oh, my God.

You tripped over that third leg.

Tripped over and just jumped out, man.

That shit is so fucking funny, man.

I'm not going to lie.

We were dying laughing.

The face you had when the camera came up to you,

I believe you said it right there in quotes, like my dick fell out.

I think that's what you said right now.

That's exactly what I said.

I didn't even believe it.

I was running.

I'm looking at the 40, and all of a sudden, I feel it.

I feel it touching my leg, and I'm like, oh, shit.

So

I try to cuff it and take the dive.

You know what I mean?

Because I know little kids are watching.

And oh, my God.

Put your dick away, Chris.

I got to say,

how blessed you are to even be able to describe it as though your dick fell out.

Because

I don't even think I could describe that adjective of mine.

I don't think it can fall anywhere.

Oh, man.

We gotta get looked at.

That's a good shit, man.

Oh, that's a good shit.

Hey, man, what are you thinking about the kids, man?

Put that shit away.

That's crazy.

I mean, that is crazy.

Like, what would be going?

I mean, I guess that is what's going through your head.

You're like, oh, my gosh.

There's kids watching.

There's families here.

I mean,

that had to be crazy.

I was quoted to Sports Illustrated in 2017.

My dick came out.

I look down and the Hummer is out.

The hummer.

Man.

Awesome call.

You're the greatest man.

Yeah, man.

It was a lot of fun.

We got the man, the myth, Mr.

Rob Gonkowski, baby.

What was it like meeting Tom?

Do you remember the first time you met him?

No, I guess I do.

So I was in the training room getting my foot taped and my ankles taped or whatever.

And he comes up.

He's like, hey, I'm Tom.

And I was like, I'm like, oh,

no way.

I was like, I got to play it.

Cool, too.

I was like, I'm just going to introduce myself.

I'm not going to call a big fan or anything.

I was like, hey, I'm Rob, man.

But it was just hilarious.

It was like, yeah, Tom.

Like, I know you're Tom, dude.

Like, I'm in the facility.

It's not like I'm meeting you somewhere else either.

Like, I'm in the football facility.

And then what was funny is like a couple years later, new rookies came in and he still did it to new rookies.

And I was just sitting there watching like their reaction.

and they're like, They all get confused.

You're like, He just introduced himself as Tom.

It was a good scene to see.

Yeah, that's how you know you're a next-level superstar when you introduce yourself by your name, and everybody's like, Yeah, we know who you are, man.

You don't got to say that anymore.

Yeah, is there, so I don't know what led to you guys having like such great chemistry?

Was it just, you know, were you guys on the same wavelength?

Was it practice?

Was it all the above?

Oh, yeah.

I mean, not the same wavelength at first.

I mean, at first, I thought he was out of control, man.

I was like, this dude, this dude crazy.

Like, I just never seen him.

Really?

Yeah, I've never seen anyone like that.

In what way?

Like,

like a dickhead, like, kind of.

I was like, he's like a coach.

Like, this isn't like my buddy, you know?

Like, you're going into the NFL.

You're expecting it to be that.

What's that movie with Jamie Foxx as the quarterback?

Sunday.

And he gave us Sunday.

And Any given Sunday.

In my mind, that's what I was expecting.

That's what I was expecting.

I'm right there with you.

That's how I lived my first couple of years in the NFL, too.

Like, that's what I wanted.

Like, the movie's tricky.

Like, you think you think everything?

So I'm like,

this isn't anything like any given Sunday.

Like, I'm like, this guy, this guy's fucking yelling at me.

I mess up just a tad bit, and the dude's yelling at me, like, get over there like a coach.

He's yelling at me more.

And then it took me a a little bit you know to to realize like what where it was coming from and and and what the love was for and i i kind of felt like he was more hard on me at first because i think he saw some talent in me man i think he saw the opportunity that i had that was presented in front of me and uh every single day man after practice he would make me stay he would make me and like two other rookies stay and he'd be like we're getting on the same page and uh he'd be throwing pass after pass route after route i'm like man i just took first team i took second team and i took that That's

all year reps.

Ain't no fucking joke.

And they keep everyone after the rookies and the second-year players.

What's that called again?

The mini-camp.

The rookie minicamp.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

The rookie mini-camp.

No, no, no.

After practice, they bring over the guy to the other side of the field.

Like, say it's joint training camp.

That might be the Patriot Win.

No, no, it was everywhere.

It was like fundamentals or something.

It was called like.

Yeah, we call it

developmental.

Yeah, that's what we call it.

That one or something.

And I did all that too.

And then he'd be like, no, you're staying after.

And then, boom, I'd be running 10 routes with him after the practice, too.

And then he would be calling me in the meetings.

This is how I want you to run the route.

I don't ever want you to go around the guy here.

Like it's a flag route.

He goes, get outside of the guy when you run a corner.

If you go inside, guess what?

I'm never throwing you the ball.

He was just always telling me the place

where he wanted me to be.

But I had so much going on that I freaking, I freaking couldn't get it all down.

Like, I'm like, okay, I get it.

You want me there?

But like, I can't get there.

Like, I just, I'm thinking way too much.

When you're thinking, you're losing already.

And I'm just thinking like crazy.

Right.

Ties the feet up.

But, and then after that, it kind of clicked.

He caught you up to speed.

Yeah, he caught me up to speed.

His speed was ridiculous when you, when I first got there.

And then after a couple more practices, you know, going throughout the year, training camp, about halfway through my rookie season, everything started clicking.

I was like, oh, all right.

Like, this is what he wants.

This is where he wants me to be.

This is how he wants me to run the route and everything.

And then going into my second year, I was ready for it.

I was like, oh, shit, I got this game down to a science now.

I don't like PCB, but I got it down.

And then we worked in the offseason.

And then going in training camp, just after practice every day, yo, let's go.

Let's get on the same page.

You were getting on him?

Was there ever a day he forgot?

You were like, hey, yo, Tom, we got to throw.

Yeah, no, no, no.

I never said that.

On the day he forgot, I said, oh, I was like, oh, I was like, oh, thank you.

His kids are here.

Because then he would run over to his kids.

I'm like, oh, thank you, kids.

Please welcome Mr.

Matthew Stafford.

Thank you very much.

Thank you for having me.

That's a hell of an intro.

I need you in-game.

You played with two of the best D-tackles in this decade plus of football, and Aaron Donald and Dominican Sue.

Yeah.

Who frightens you more as a quarterback?

You know, spent more.

I probably played more.

I don't know.

It might be kind of close.

I was going to say I played more games against Aaron Donald than I did Sue, but I played quite a few against Sue there kind of at the end.

I would say having, you know, experience with both, AD is,

it was a different deal.

I was.

Because there was like, the get-off was crazy.

I mean, he just wrecked practices.

Sue was that way, too, in a lot of instances and was a great player for us in Detroit.

And then, you know, bounced around and had some unbelievable seasons at other places, too.

But AD was, that was something different just watching him go about his job every single day.

I remember like the third practice I was there in training camp.

We have no pads on.

We're in a quick game.

I'm throwing a hitch to the field and I smash my thumb on his helmet.

And I'm like, yo, I just caught the ball.

He's like, catch, throw, bang.

And I'm like, and next thing you know, everybody had the guardian caps on.

They're like,

next time, you know, but it was, uh, but he was, he was crazy in his ability.

And I would say the respect that he got from offensive lines and other defense and other offenses was something I've never seen before.

Yeah, I would agree with that.

I mean, we treated him differently than any other defensive tackle that we ever played in.

And Sue was the reason.

I think Sue was like almost, he like wanted to kill somebody.

Yeah.

Where AD wanted to kill somebody too, but it was like a different level of intensity.

I agree.

AD, though, his motor.

It was every single snap, every single play.

You could not take a playoff.

He never took a playoff.

He was running.

I don't know how he had that kind of conditioning.

It was to this day.

Yeah.

The combinedness of like his athleticism is like explosive in strength.

And

he just never stopped.

Yeah, he's a smart player.

Like, I mean, he knew, like, you talk to to him.

Like, I get in the cafeteria and you sit down, you talk to him, and he's like, yeah, I knew if I wasn't doubled, if the center didn't come to me, it's run away.

Yeah.

Because the center comes to me every pass play.

And if a center comes to me, it's pass or it's run two.

Yeah.

Center goes away, like, you're not blocking me with two.

So he knew it was run away, and then he's shooting a backside gap.

I mean, like, he.

It was just like, could make decisions and go like that that quickly.

And

it was, it was impressive to be around him and watch him work.

I mean, the way he worked out, we had a,

I'll never forget, he was crazy in the weight room.

Oh, I'm not sure.

Like, The Rock came in and worked out with him one time and there was a lot of people.

He was nightfighting.

Yeah, I mean,

he's a maniac in the weight room, right?

And

I'll never forget, this was 21 or 22, maybe.

We had like a make-a-wish kid who had like a year before had been like, hey, I want to, my dream is to go like be with Aaron Ardombo for a day kind of thing.

And thankfully, this kid at that point had kind of beaten the odds and had beaten the cancer that he had, I believe, and like like was really on the men.

And it was really cool.

Like, he came in and you're like, oh man, this guy's like doing good, right?

High school kid, like bigger kid,

like love to play football.

And AD was like, cool, come work out with me, right?

And I'm like, I'm walking by, I'm like, yo, what is about to go down?

Yeah, right.

And I look over and like, I'm over there doing like banded something.

And like 30 minutes in, and AD's just ripping curls out.

And this, and this next thing you know, this kid is puking in the trash can.

Oh my god.

I'm like, AD, can you please like have a little cooth, a little understanding?

Like, man, you got what he wanted.

You want to be AD?

You want to do it?

See, I was on chemo for months, AD.

We can't

just relax on the bicep curls for a little bit.

It's like, how many do we do till we throw up?

You know what I mean?

It was just like unbelievable.

I was like, this guy has no, I mean, the motor just never stops.

It was incredible.

I remember it was my first time playing in LA against the Rams, and it was a preseason game.

And

I'm number three, closest to the line.

We're running an all-go special.

It's cover two, or at least I see two high, and I'm thinking I'm just right up the hash.

And I take off, and I'm like, man, I'm just going to fucking dig for my first like five to 10 yards.

And by the time I got to the like five yards downfield, I felt something throw me to the numbers.

And I got up out of that play, like fucking like a little dazed.

I'm like, what in the fuck was that?

And I watched it on film, and it was AD coming from the backside B gap and just fucking smoked me.

Oh, I believe it.

Because there was a blitz from the other side.

And I was just like, what the fuck?

I had never felt like more of like...

like the lightest thing in the game.

Yeah, like I had never moved that fast before ever in my life by anybody.

I remember we were, I was in Detroit.

We're playing a game against the Rams and they were in St.

Louis still at that point.

Jim Bob was our coordinator and, you know, I dropped back to pass late in the game.

We need to play.

And Aaron, I have two hands on the ball, right?

Like this.

And Aaron just comes up from behind me and just rips both my biceps apart.

The ball falls down on the ground.

And I'm like, I'm looking at him, and I'm like, I come over to the sideline.

I'm like, I mean, I'm pissed.

And I'm like, I don't know what I was supposed to do.

There's like, you got to find a way to hold on to it.

And I'm like, go fuck yourself, man.

Like, you think I'm going to be able to hold on to this?

This monster,

Jim Bob.

This went like this and like, kindly separated my arms.

He's like, I'll take the ball.

I was just like, what do I do?

Like, there's no.

Oh, is that what I was supposed to do?

Hold on to it.

Let me got it.

Thanks for watching.

That's how this works.

I was with Jim Bob.

I'll never forget when he came came up.

We will probably cut this.

Got to tell it about it.

Tell it anyway.

So I'm sitting there.

We had just hired Nick Sirian and Shane Steichen, and Jim Bob was on the staff.

I had never met Jim Bob.

Oh, yeah.

I didn't know about him in Detroit, really.

Yeah.

He comes up and he says, Hey, Jason, my name's Jim Bob Cooter.

And I just like fucking laugh.

Like, audibly, like

a giggle.

Yeah.

And I'm like, oh, oh, that's fucking real.

My bad on that one.

Awesome fucking dude.

I love Joe.

He's a great dude.

All-time name.

All-time name.

The Time magazine athlete of the year.

Miss Caitlin Clark.

Please welcome everyone.

We're going to try the segment.

We've never done it.

It's probably going to be very short-lived.

It's called Name a Person.

And we're going to go around the horn and each name an athlete from Iowa until we can't anymore.

Oh, gosh.

I feel like you're probably not going to struggle.

Can you name current players?

No, no, they just have to be an athlete.

They have to be former players.

Can they be current?

No, they can be former.

They have to be former.

They have to be former.

You know, current?

No,

they can be current.

I'm going to try to do like NFL current players.

See if I can do.

Okay.

You might beat us in that, too.

Travis has like the...

Actually, we both really have the positions.

So let's see how it happens.

All right.

All right.

Who's starting?

I'll start.

George Kittle.

I knew that was going to be the first person he was going to say.

I'm going to say Sam Laporta, just to take Travis's answers away from him before.

I'm going to go Tyler Linderbaum on the raid.

That's nice.

Nice.

I'm going to go Claire Kittle.

Tristan Worfs.

That's right.

Solid answer.

The Eagles, actually, rookie Cooper DeGene for my own.

Ooh, nice.

Nijay, what about a Will Forrest TJ Hakazan?

Ah, that's right.

I always forget about him.

What?

He's on the Vikings, right?

Yes.

Yes.

He's finally back healthy doing his thing.

That's awesome.

I'm going to get a throwback here.

I'm going to get a throwback.

Throwback.

Robert Gallery.

His wife actually played basketball at Iowa, too.

There we go.

Look at that.

Yeah.

They actually came to quite a few of our games the last couple of years.

Great people.

Cool people.

Oh, gosh.

Okay.

Let's see.

Hmm.

This is tough.

We stumped her.

We stumped her.

I'm thinking about NFL.

I'm thinking about NFL.

I'm going going to go Geno Stone.

I think he's on the Bengals now.

I'm pretty sure he had a pick six this past week.

Ooh,

Geno.

I'll take you.

All right.

We respect Geno.

I'm going to go a little Chiefs

tight end when I first got to Kansas City, Tony Moiake.

Oh,

my Chi-Town brother.

Shout out to Timo, man.

I'm going to go.

Another former teammate, Julian Vanderveld.

E.

Julian Vanderveld.

Did anybody say Dallas Clark?

No, the legend.

I was holding on to that one.

No gloves.

No gloves.

The May.

I'll stay in the tight end world over there.

Noah Fant.

That's right.

Seahawks, I think.

Yes.

Yep.

8-7 over there in Seattle.

All right.

All right.

I'm going to go Marshall Yonda.

And this dude.

I'm going with the May.

I'm pulling up the old schools.

I'm going to go Riley Moss on the Broncos.

I'm going with the younger players.

That's the ones that were in school with me.

Well, I'll show my age and Jason's as well because he was the same recruiting class.

He was also a Kansas City Chief when I got to Kansas City.

Ricky Stanzy, quarterback, Iowa.

Oh, man.

This might be right.

This is where it ends.

This might be.

I'm pretty sure.

I'm pretty sure Matt Tobin.

I'm pretty sure Matt Tobin played for.

I'm pretty sure.

I'm next to positive.

Then you lost.

If you're pretty sure you lost.

All right.

We'll end it there.

I think we all did very respectful.

We did great.

I'm impressed.

That was fun.

That was fun.

Tobes with the IWI knew it, Tob.

All right, there we go.

That was a fun one.

We welcome number 15, Patrick Mahomes, everyone.

Wow.

That was a good one.

What a break to juice, baby.

You and Travis are known for having quite the bromance, Pat.

I see you guys hanging out all the place.

I got to make it out there with Tahoe with you guys one year, but it's such a big bromance that even Brittany is jealous.

She tweeted out how jealous she was of your guys' relationship a few weeks ago.

What were your honest first impressions of Travis?

And vice versa?

How did this bromance come together?

Should I tell them the story, dude?

The story?

That's your call.

That's my call.

It's a bad look on me.

So obviously I get here at the

beginning of the year, and I'm still a rookie.

So, you know, I'm just kind of going through the motion, trying to figure out the best way to kind of fit in.

And I think the first time that I thought I was like, me and Travis

were going to be connected throughout this, my entire career was, you remember when we had the fourth preseason game, we used to have a little off time.

You had like a little weekend.

You played on Thursday.

Well, you know, Coach Reed always would give you the walkthrough the day before the actual walkthrough.

And

me being a kid fresh out of college.

college, I had a couple buddies that were rookies with me, and they were like, let's go out.

Saturday, man.

Let's go out.

We'll have the walkthrough.

We're done with the camera.

Just got back from St.

Joe's.

We had a great preseason.

So we go out, and Coach Rita told us the next day at like 8 o'clock, we're going to have a 15-minute walkthrough done.

That's all you have on Sunday.

So I set eight alarms on my phone.

I have them all.

I go out with the rookies.

Of course, I get out there and I see old Travis Kelsey out at the same spot as I'm at.

And I'm like, hey, let's

like, come on, all y'all come to the, come over here to the table.

Let's do this.

Let's have a great time.

So I have a a great night.

Get home, have all my alarms set.

I made sure of that.

Go to sleep, wake up, not to an alarm.

Wake up, look at the TV, and I see 8.15 on my TV screen on the resting thing.

I didn't put my phone in the charger, so my phone died.

And rookie mistake.

Too many times.

So I obviously drove to the facility extremely fast.

Dangerous.

You can't overlook that initial, that initial feeling of understanding that you're not going to make it there on time is the most likely.

Just drought.

No, no, no, no, no, this isn't happening.

This isn't happening.

This isn't happening.

Am I dreaming?

And then immediately you just start telling yourself how uselessly, you stupid idiot.

How could you do this?

You suck.

You idiot.

You're so unaccountable, man.

Get it together, man.

And then

to complete the story, I get there and I get to the facility and they're already in the walkthrough, obviously, already going.

And I walk up to the door and like how the Chiefs facility is built, the defense does it on the first side of the field, and the offense is on the other side.

And I was like, there is no chance.

I'm walking through the defense late to get to the offense side of the walkthrough.

I ain't going out there.

Meanwhile, we're playing the Super Bowl champs,

the Patriots, like on opening night that week.

And so

I sit in the locker room.

and I'm just sitting there shaking my head and they call me up to the office and I get like the max fine, all this different stuff.

Feel like an idiot and I just I thought it was so weird that the first question they asked me was were you with Travis

and I was like no no not at all why would you even ask that and uh long story short uh Travis was also late he got there five minutes before

so he's sitting here dude I'm coming into the building like fuck man I can't believe I fucking screwed this up again man because I'm I'm not gonna say I'm notorious for late but I screwed up a few times before and have been late late so i'm in my head about it i'm like man coach reef is gonna kill me man i'm like i can't even look at this guy in his eyes i'm gonna be looking down at the ground while he tells me i'm the worst teammate ever man and i walk into the building and they're like

were you with pat last night where's pat at i was just like

dog

i'm not alone

let's go man

at that point and i knew we were teammates man i knew that guy was gonna have super bowl i had to die together baby i will say

since then, though, I believe me and Travis have never been late again.

So we have been on the straightened arrow since then.

So I won't be late again.

I don't know about Travis.

I don't think Coach Reed will stand me ever being late again.

So I have to make sure I'd get my ass up and going early, man.

I was late one time in college.

Do you remember the college rule?

And in Cincinnati, if you were late for the Friday morning lift,

they would make you, the whole team do stadium steps.

Oh, yeah, now

until the guy showed up and they would take somebody to go by.

Oh my gosh, I woke up, same thing, realized I was late in my street clothes, went straight into the stadium and just started doing stadiums.

That's cold, man.

They've been

an hour and a half.

This is how bad.

Your teammates can respect that, though.

Your teammates were like, this guy cares.

No, he's he's he feels bad about it.

He's doing it in Timberlands.

It's sweet.

I was, uh, I remember I used to, I used to do, uh,

what is it?

I used to have like a psychological, like, yeah, man, I mean, time is time, you know, back in, back in college, like time, like I wasn't really pressed about being late.

So I would show up late or something like that, and I would get told I got to be at that five o'clock stadium step run, and I would fuck, I would be ready.

Like, I would be, that was the only thing I was on time for.

And just like Rocky Balboa, that shit, just like sprint the fuck out of them and just be like, I'm getting better today, baby.

So they stopped making me run stadium steps and started making me push pennies on like the weight room floor, which is not a slippery surface.

You know what I mean?

Yeah, I had to push pennies with my finger and I wasn't allowed to.

I've never heard of plate pushes.

No, I've never heard of penny pushes.

Pennies.

Pennies against a weight room floor.

And I had to do it in a figure eight and I wasn't allowed to be on like my knees or like lean.

Yeah, you're like barrel crosses.

Yeah, I had to stand up.

I had to do this.

That's terrible.

Dude, couldn't get hyped for that one.

So they beat me on that.

The sickest thing I've done in college was we, yeah, have you done like the rolls where you like, you have to get like this and this barrel roll across the field?

Everybody's just throwing up the entire time.

Terrible.

Well, my first punishment, it was a team punishment for everybody who was missing class.

Kingsbury had us do that, but he played

Get Your Role On, which is everybody get your role on.

He played it for like 30 minutes straight.

Everybody's just rolling and throwing up.

I'm like, this is just psychological warfare by Coach Kingsbury out here at Texas Tech.

That's good stuff.

When you hear that song to this day, do you have like Pavlov's dog?

Like, are you like immediately?

No, I hate it.

i hate it immediately all i think about is how sick i was that that wednesday morning at 4 30 before class that boy's stomach starts turning over man that's good shit the ever-talented mr jalen hurts what's up jalen thank you for joining us

glad to be here man so uh he's gonna make fun of me right here what what do you mean how you know it's coming you made fun of yourself by doing this don't put it on me jason uh had a bad snap and gave you a forced fumble man he put it all on you last week, dog.

First of all, have you ever had that happen?

Have you ever had that happen where you're in shotgun and a center thinks you're under center?

No, no, no, that wasn't what happened.

I don't think that's what happened.

Not last week.

Oh, you just.

We're on the same side.

Oh, shit.

All right.

I snapped it when he wasn't.

calling for the ball.

I wasn't ready.

I knew he was in the shotgun thing.

You're in shotgun.

But yeah, it's...

Snapped it early.

So

he has a very unique way of snapping the ball.

It's a very nice way of saying every quarterback that I've ever played with.

Hey, I snapped the ball.

Hey.

Is it getting to you quick?

Fast.

It's up on you.

Hey, you know what?

Roland Ryan the 70s right here.

People always ask me

why is your stand so low?

I'm like, I got to be in an athletic position.

Day one sports to catch the ball when it's coming, you know.

But

I mean, because I remember my rookie year when I came in, like, I come in, I have a couple plays here and now throughout the game.

Oh, yeah.

And

it was like a couple, like, I literally had maybe a handful.

It's like, I go in there and fumble the snap because I just wasn't ready.

Like, I wasn't in the position.

You know what I'm saying?

Some of them were bad snaps.

But, but, yeah, I ain't tripping, but you make all he do his thing.

You know what I'm saying?

He does a thing.

I ain't tripping.

I mean, really, I'd snap it fast.

And I snap it fast because I want my hand back.

That's about it.

I got stuff to do.

You got to use these.

It's not 1940 where you can't use those hands.

You can actually put them on somebody.

My advantage of my skill set is quickness, right?

So I want to get up on the guy quick.

I want to be able to get in the proper leverage because I'm not going to out-muscle nobody.

So

just snap it fast.

I have no complaints.

The plus side is you got more time to make a decision if it's in the right spot.

Well, I try, like I said, I try and put myself like, if I have to squat a little lower to catch it, tripping about it.

He always asks me, like, how was that snapped?

Or if something, if there's like an MA in the backfield or something like that, he's like, kind of like, I know he's thinking about if he snapped it good or not.

I'm like, hey, you good, baby.

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So call up Joe Shasti!

So call

I am pro-taunting, yeah.

So am I.

Why are you pro-taunting?

We're all grown adults that work really hard at what we do, and sometimes we like to show it.

I'm not gonna get my feelings hurt if somebody sacks me and taunts me like you made a play, I didn't.

Like, good for you, you're allowed to taunt.

Like,

have you ever gotten a taunting flag?

I've never got a taunting flag.

I don't know how many you got.

At what level of football?

He's throwing a flag.

He's throwing it.

I mean,

that's my favorite one.

You can get a little feisty out there.

Just a wee bit.

Yeah.

I have

going to talk that shit.

Anger management, and I talk entirely too much.

I do.

Actually, one of my favorite taunting penalties that I got.

Yes, I do have favorites.

We were playing the Eagles.

My first time playing actually on the field against the Eagles in Kansas City.

You were on the Super Bowl team.

We did lose that game.

Yes, that was the last game you guys lost that year.

So we played them, and sure enough, it's a low-scoring game.

We could have moved the ball too well on them.

Smitty handed that thing off to Kareem Hunt.

And it was me and Brandon Graham talking shit the entire time.

BG talks major shit.

He will.

It was before I knew BG all like that.

And then, sure enough,

he got a little winning.

You know,

they come in like hockey subs on the defensive line.

Yeah, it's some boys.

And sure enough, he went off for a play.

I hemmed up the D-lineman that came in for him on one-back power, which if you guys don't believe I can block, I blocked my power.

I was going to say you were blocking?

I was, and I did my job.

And I felt so good that I thought I'd run over to the sideline and tell Brandon Graham to bring his ass back out here.

Hey, what happened?

Well, I got a flag for going to the sideline.

I'm talking to the sideline.

You can't do that, kids.

And then Brandon Graham continued to throw me around for the rest of the game.

BG, little pit bull.

Who's the best shit talker that you played?

You already talked about Fletcher Cox.

You're welcome to the NFL.

BG's known for.

Is there anybody else that's really up there for you?

Not really.

No.

No.

That's fair.

What about you, Olivia?

You played against Max Crosby, right?

Yeah, he wasn't talking when we played him, though.

Oh, Max.

what do we do?

I'm pretty nice to the defensive line.

Smart.

So

people aren't really talking to me like that because I'll just be like, Joe gets it.

Hey, good play.

Nice play, man.

I'm not trying to get hit like that.

Smart guy, smart guy.

I would have to say, biggest shit talkers.

He's at the, he's on, you know, I've played with him

at the top of my list.

Well, I got a story for him, too, but

BG,

and then our guy, Trey Henderson.

I just yeah.

Yeah.

Holy shit.

Shout out, Trey, man.

Love it.

What a bad man.

Yeah.

Yeah, hell yeah.

But Trav's going to talk that shit.

We were playing Denver one time, Sunday night, and

he comes in motion.

This is mid-Cadence.

Wide 80.

He comes in motion back and forth.

And my DN's wearing goggles.

And as he comes back across the guard, he looks at the DN.

He says, man, you got on fucking goggles?

Oh, this guy's got on fucking goggles.

Wide 80.

I'm like, man, this is a

Travis go talk.

He go talk that talk, man.

That's a big.

Y'all couldn't even fucking see.

Blind as a bat.

You know him as the big Shamrock, the big Aristotle.

Oh, yeah.

The Superman.

Shack this.

The diesel.

We got him.

A.K.A.

Shack.

AKA, the black Kelchie, brother.

Let's go.

We got a favorite dunk of all time?

My favorite dunk of all time was two of of them.

And I actually just seen this dude the other day, Chris Dutley, and he laughed.

Oh, yeah.

I was like, are you trying to fight?

Are you trying to give me a hug?

He started laughing.

I started laughing hugs.

Nice.

I took it as a sign of respect when you didn't double me.

So I'm back and I don't even know who's on me.

Like, you know, Deb switch, I'm like, I know this ain't fucking Chris Dutley.

So I take one little dribble to double still.

Like I'm, I take, you know, he's trying to, yeah.

So I'm like,

I take one dribble, like, the fuck.

I take two dribble.

I even carry on the the second time.

I was like, oh, these motherfuckers not coming.

Now I got to

take that and then just drop step and then boom.

And like, he was all on me.

And I was like, fuck off, man.

And then my second favorite dunk was game seven.

Portland's kicking our ass.

They are kicking our ass.

So we come to the timeout in the fourth quarter and Phil Jackson.

Remember what I told you used to like mine, play with your minds?

Mm-hmm.

All right, guys, great year.

They're kicking your ass.

I'll see you next year.

So now we're like, Kobe's pissed.

pissed.

He said it.

I'm pissed.

He said, I'm like, man, fuck that.

Let's go on a little run.

Legendary quote, man.

Kobe's in Kobe mode.

He's getting to the hole.

And two people, three people, he don't care.

He's know he has to score.

And I'm telling him the whole time, hey, man, that fucking lab is open.

All right, all right.

Hey, man, that lab is open.

So we make kind of eye contact.

I don't want to say he winked at me, but he looked at me and he crosses Scotty up at the top of the key.

You know what?

I'm not going to even talk about the clip.

Here it is right here.

Yeah.

Brandon.

Intern, Brandon.

Don't you fuck that up.

Yeah, don't you fuck that up.

You gotta be on your shit, Brandon.

That was, but that was like the backdoor.

Oop, the spin-off and the go-man, iconic.

No, no, that was the one where he crossed Scotty up and he got in the middle lane and he threw the motherfucker up too high.

And I had to go get it.

Here, right here.

Oh, whoa, whoa, okay, Brandon.

Okay, Kobe.

Right there, throw it up, Kobe.

Throw it up, Kobe.

Yeah,

Cobe.

Good pass.

Yes, sir.

That one right there.

That place is fucking rocking.

Oh, my God.

Because I kept telling him, I was like, yo, man, the lobby's there.

He was like, because,

listen, one thing, one thing about Kobe, when Kobe gets in killer mode, don't fucking talk to him.

Like, he's not trying to hit nothing.

Like, he knows he's in attack mode.

He's going to score first of anything.

I'm like, yo, man, that lob is there.

All right.

Yo, Cobe, the lobby's there.

All right.

Motherfucker, I said the lobster.

Yeah, all right.

And then, like, he at the top of the key and he gives me one of those little things right there.

And I'm like, huh?

Huh?

Is this it?

And then when he threw it up, the motherfucker threw up too high.

I had to fucking go.

I was like, ah, I don't go get it.

And then,

you know, as you see, I didn't catch it.

Like, I just,

I said to myself,

I said to myself, if I get my hands on it, just fucking punch it through.

Play it again, Brandon.

I'm making one, really a clean catch.

Hurry up, Brandon.

Play it one more time, Brandon.

He's not ready.

He's not ready.

Come on, Brandon.

Look, right here.

See, he backs up right there and right there.

He says, okay, boy, yeah, you see that hand?

That's the second one.

He threw threw it, and I just fucking slapped that bitch.

I just slapped it through.

It's fucking electric.

Please welcome Philadelphia Eagle Saquon Barkley.

Here we go.

I need that.

I wish I got to have you two around.

I need more intros like that, you know.

Could an average person gain one yard on a rushing play in the NFL?

Yeah.

The average person?

Look at Jet Shake right now.

Jet Shakespeare, come on, camera, so we can see what you look like.

Jet, come on, come on up here.

I play, I gotta say yes now.

I'm just dissing.

I'm just dissing.

No, no, you know.

No harsh feelings here.

He's a Jets guy himself as well.

You play any ball back in your gym?

No.

No?

There we go.

If you had to run a 40 right now, like under six seconds?

No chance.

No chance.

So you're just,

you're not helping me call it off.

Not at all.

I would think if I, what's the play?

43.

What's it like?

What's the 20-20 vision?

Yeah, that's a start.

What's the play?

Actually, I got to say, there's a game I had against the New York Jets.

I had 13 carries and one rushing yard.

Holy cow.

And I would say I'm a pretty good running back.

At least you got one.

So you're probably not getting it.

Yeah.

Advertisers are probably not getting one yard.

And he's out.

All right.

Had to think that one through.

I think about it sometimes because, like, if if any, like, if a guard and attack will destroy a double team, like, anybody could probably get a yard, but you got to think about how long it's going to take them to get to the goal.

At least he ain't getting it.

And how fast everything changes.

That's right.

He told us best.

Oh, gosh.

They wouldn't even know.

If the average guy's jets, Jake.

If it's outside zone, no shot.

My bad, Jake.

I love it.

You're above average in

my heart.

Above average person.

Way above average person.

That's what matters.

We don't.

we don't yeah

who can squat more you or Jalen Hurts oh that's not even close you think it's not even close

Jalen Jalen's got you no they're what no I'm like

I don't do that no more I don't do that no more but like when I'm in my when I was like really in that mindset of squatting and like squat off I would put myself up there with a lot of people I'm watching this clip of

let's say Quad squatting 585 right now.

Was that in college?

Nah, that was

the pros.

And it's not even remotely difficult.

I don't max out anymore.

Like, stuff like that.

Like, that's like when you, those days are one of those days where it's like, you're like, oh, let's just push the fucking needle a little bit.

Like, let's put something on you and try it.

Just put a car on our back.

Jalen Strong, he's probably the strongest quarterback in the NFL.

And he could squat ever.

T-Book squatting 600 pounds.

He He was T-Bow squatting.

T-Bow's a bit pretty big, dude.

He had to beat it.

He's a quarterback?

Wow.

Well, you know, Jalen powerlifted when he was a player.

T-Boe's a quarterback.

I'm a quarterback.

What?

I'm not a quarterback.

Five shots.

He played the same game, too.

He moved a tight end.

His last.

Yep, bringing together yesterday.

His last game was a tight end.

That's all I'm saying.

Fair feature.

I do a touchdown in the playoffs.

All right.

After watching those two clips, that 585 squat was damn impressive.

Jalen's pretty strong.

He don't got

Tebow too.

He's my favorite college football player.

Behind Cam Newton

and Reggie Bush.

I'm a better one squat, like one rep max, too.

Same.

Yeah, I'm not like.

But you burn out quick.

You're more like explosive.

Put it on, give me a number, sit down, and stand the fuck up.

Do you know what the most you've ever squatted is?

The most I probably ever put on my back was in the 600s, but it's college NFL.

I never really

do.

We don't do one rep max.

Ran out of bar.

You can't put kids.

The weights don't even fit on the bar at that point.

You got the bands holding it on at that point?

Yeah, right.

Yeah.

It just looks like a U.

It just looks like a U when you pull it off of the rack.

That's right.

You use the Valsalva technique.

That's where, Jason.

You fill up with air.

You fill up with air.

You might be.

And then what?

Listen, I guess when you got quads as good as Saquon, you don't need the Valsalvo.

We had to use everything we could.

Every technique that we possibly could.

Have you ever flexed out?

What does that mean?

Like, you like,

and then

all of a sudden you get real lightheaded.

And fall?

Yeah,

it's a thing on TikTok.

I never, I haven't, I've got lightheaded.

It's one of my favorite segments.

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Oh, my God.

Yo, yo, Jason, that might, yo, Jason, that might have been the greatest introduction of all time.

Well, you see all these shoes behind me, man.

You already know I'm a sneakerhead.

I know, I know.

I've collected them over the years, man.

Was it always Nike?

You used to wear the T-Max at St.

Vincent St.

Mary.

I think I've seen you wear the old Iversons.

Was it always Nike?

Trav, no, it was not.

It was not always Nike.

It was Nike when I was a young kid.

When I was a young lad, obviously, you know, know, you, you know, I've been in love with Michael Jordan my whole life.

So,

you know, I saw him,

Penny Hardaway, you know, Ken Griffey Jr., Bo Jackson.

I watched all these unbelievable sports figures.

So as a kid growing up, it was Nike.

Once I got into the AAU program, started playing basketball, Adidas took us over,

you know, and it became Adidas.

It was Adidas like from seventh, eighth grade to pretty much my junior, senior year.

They sponsored us every year.

We played in all the Adidas tournaments, big time tournament in Vegas and all over the United States of America.

So

it was Adidas.

And then my senior year, the process began.

The recruitments, the Nikes came in, and the Adidas was still there.

Reebok came in

and won.

You know, all these companies came in.

And I took on three

pitches.

I did an Adidas pitch.

I did a Reebok pitch.

I did a Nike pitch.

The best pitch that I got where I thought I was going to end up was actually Reebok at one point.

Reebok.

I went to their meeting

and I sat down across from their CEO and the guys that was running basketball.

At the time, I don't know if you guys remember this, but Reebok had the NFL as well.

Yes.

That's what it was when I first got into the league.

Yeah, they had the NFL as well.

So they, you know, they knew my love.

They knew my love for football as well.

So they had all the NFL jerseys, all the Pro Bowl-looking jerseys that was going to be the next year.

And I'm sitting across from the table.

I'm a senior in high school.

I actually have to have, I actually

go to the class.

I'm going back to class the next day.

They flew me in.

I'm going back to St.

Business, St.

Mary the next day, my senior year.

And the guy slides over a check to me at the end of the table.

It's me and my mom and Maverick Carter at the end of the table.

And he says,

If you don't go talk to any other companies, this is yours.

And I look at it.

I look at it.

$10 million fucking dollars.

Oh!

$10 million.

Right there as an 18-year-old, I was still stealing change out of my dad's fucking piggy bank.

I was a high school senior man.

They gave me a check for $10 million.

And if I promised not to go see anybody else, I told him I need a break.

They stepped out.

I need to fucking believe it.

I barely

My mom looked at it.

Me and my mom, we're living in an apartment and, you know, Section A housing in Akron.

I'm going back.

I don't have shit, whatever.

And my mom looked at me.

She said, son, trust your gut.

If they're offering you this, then who knows what?

the other companies may offer you

okay mom yeah ma she's composed yeah she's super composed she's like we ain't got shit already.

So it's not like, you know, it changes our life at this moment.

Yes, maybe in the future, but I want you to trust your gut and

do what you think is right.

That's awesome advice, man.

So they came back in, boop.

I said, thank you.

I will, you know, I will definitely like to continue our conversation, but.

I would be remiss if I did not take those other pitches from the other companies.

I may have cried on the way home because I had to leave it to

You're questioning.

Man, I hope I just made the right decision.

I was like, I could have bought the building that me and my mom was living in with that goddamn money.

Easily.

You really know.

I got a similar, my, uh, my rookie year or my rookie contract.

I'm coming up.

I'm redoing my rookie contract.

And I decide potentially, I'm like, okay, I think I might do this myself.

I might forego and just be my own agent, negotiate my own contract.

And thankfully, my agents were like, they talked me into like, no, no, no, we need to, you're going to want an agent.

Trust me, Jason.

They sent over the first offer, and I was like, all right, where do we sign?

They're like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

we can get it.

We can go high.

We can go high.

Oh, man.

That's funny as shit.

Yeah, that first time you get a check like that thrown in front of you.

You never forget.

You never forget.

Never seen that many zeros in your life.

Never, never, never.

Yes, yes.

Man, that's too funny.

Have you seen this tweet from 2015?

LeBron is 30.

This fuckery won't go on for much longer.

Thank God.

Yes, I saw that tweet throughout all of my 30s.

All of my 30s.

And I laughed at it so hard.

You put it up in the locker and you just put it right there.

And you know what?

I know what's funny.

When I turned 40, the same fucking guy said, LeBron turned 40.

This fuckery won't go on much longer.

That fucking gold, man.

That's so good.

So good.

Look at that.

That's so good.

Oh, my goodness.

Oh, my goodness.

He's going to be real upset when I turn 50.

No doubt.

No doubt.

That shit was fucking classic, man.

You know that person in your life who just can't stand mayo?

Call them traumatized.

Call them closed-minded.

We get it.

They're stuck in their ways.

But here's the thing.

They just haven't tried Hellman's flavored Mayo.

We're talking bold flavors that will flip even the biggest skeptics.

Spicy Mayo that adds the perfect kick to your burger.

Garlic aioli that transforms ordinary fries into something extraordinary.

Chipotle mayo that turns your basic wrap into a smoky sensation.

So to all the mayo haters out there, yes, we're looking at you.

It's time to eat your words.

Because with mayo this flavorful, any hater is just a mayo lover waiting to be convinced.

Hellman's flavored mayo.

Get ready to eat your words.

It's the big man, big red, Andy Reed is in the building, Coach Reed is with us.

So we got the draft coming up.

So we think we'd start with the draft.

You obviously drafted both of us.

And I don't know if I've ever told you this story, but I was in the Pro Bowl one year and John Gruden was sitting there.

And I think you guys had done a production meeting.

And he said, you know, I saw Andy

before one of the games.

And I said, so you drafted Jason and you drafted Travis.

And he said, your response was,

I drafted Jason, I drafted Travis.

And if there's any other Kelseys out there, I'll draft them too.

So I'm asking you right now on the spot, why my daughter is three years old.

If you're still coaching in 18 years, can we get another Kelsey draft thing?

Absolutely.

Yeah,

you got a why.

You got a baby girl.

Do you remember what led to me getting drafted?

And do you remember, I think we all remember what led to him getting drafted because all three of us were on the phone that day.

I guess what's the story behind my

mine?

And then we'll talk about Travis's.

Yours was real easy.

So you were a great player.

Okay.

A little bit undersized,

but had tremendous toughness, speed.

You were smart and dirty tough.

And so

that was an easy decision.

And we needed a center.

And so you fit in.

We just got rid of all that linebacker stuff in you.

Gave you to hard mud and cut you loose.

This guy, I saw play against Temple.

Yeah.

And my son kept telling me this tight end is unbelievable.

Kelsey's brother is like incredible.

I mean, you know, he's 265 pounds.

He's a beast.

And

then I get him.

He's scouting.

I know.

Then I get him.

He's like 240, but that's okay.

But I remember this.

I'm going to bring back a memory for you.

Game's over.

They just destroyed Temple.

And I come over to the locker room.

You're there with your boss.

And he comes walking beep hopping out and just giving me the business.

Yeah.

Like we're long lost friends.

And I'm going, deep down I'm going, if I get my hands on that son of a buck, I'm going to rip his heart out.

But I played along with it.

I played along with it.

Cocky, cocky.

Jamie is cocky.

Yeah.

But listen,

I knew the roots.

I knew the roots.

So for the first five years,

it's been, it was a war.

The last five years has been unbelievable.

You know, he traveled the country to 50 states, meeting 50 girls.

I knew this show would be easy.

I knew this show would be easy.

The show would be easy.

Yeah, this is nothing to do.

We've named plays after it.

We've had our fun.

That play has been a hell of a play for us, Coach.

No, it has.

It has.

Constant seven.

Not that show, though.

Not that show.

Not that show.

We won't rerun that show.

I don't think anybody's rerunning that.

Do you think, so back to draft night, does Travis get drafted if you don't.

If you hadn't drafted me and knew me already, but the red flags that were kind of out there around him?

Yeah, that would have been tough.

If you were in the league, I still would have called you.

Yeah.

Yeah, I would have called you.

Somewhere I would have called you and

checked on him just to make sure, because I had heard the rumors about him.

Yeah.

What do you think now, having known those rumors and now having coached him for 10 years?

Yeah, so like I said, for like the first five years,

those rumors were pretty close.

Yeah.

For the next five years,

they've been awesome.

I mean,

I've watched him blossom into a leader.

I mean, he's always been a great player, but tremendous leader.

Big heart.

Teammates love him.

You're not the only leader in the family.

Yeah, I know that.

Show your personality, baby.

That's right.

That's one of the beautiful things that I think is behind your coaching philosophy is everybody gets to lead in their own way.

And Trav does it his way.

I do it mine.

I think Travis' personality, he always cares about his teammates, always wants to win.

He's just a little bit young and trying to have a little bit too much fun, but that's caught up.

Never have too much fun.

I mean, I told both of you guys, let your personality show.

Yes.

He threw the flag at the officials.

That was amazing.

You picked it up and handed it to him.

That's the difference.

That's an amazing clue.

So I don't even know if we need to ask this, but who did you yell at most their rookie year, me or Travis?

I was hoarse with him.

Yeah.

No

hoarse left.

It was every day.

It was every day, baby.

But hey, listen, that's how you know that's that's how I knew that you saw something in me, though.

So you already know.

I never reacted in a bad way, did I?

No, not that.

That's what I'm saying.

I was always ready to just rock and roll, baby.

Yeah.

Yeah, no, you were good with it.

You already know.

It's all you young guys out there.

Don't be afraid to get yelled at.

We got to ask this.

Was Trav, Trav is very upset that he wasn't the first tight end drafted his draft year.

Was he the first tight end on the Chiefs draft board that year?

He actually was the first one.

Really?

Yeah.

You're not making this up.

Not in hindsight.

No,

we were going to get him.

That's who we wanted.

That's who you wanted.

That's who we wanted.

Gosh.

Yeah.

John Dorsey was a part of this.

I mean, you can double-check with John.

That was a slam dunk.

Yeah,

he was going to be a chief.

I love that.

I'm here.

I'm fired up right now.

All right.

Let's talk some QBs.

When did you know that I wasn't a QB?

Well, there are a couple different times.

If you want to

take it back to New York, there was a.

Oh, hey, yo.

Just listen, if and don't run the ball.

There you go.

80 yards.

He wants to, he wants to.

He has said the coaching point you told him, which is do not, Travis, do not throw this ball.

You're not making a read.

It's either there or you're running it.

No, he wanted to see if he could beat my pump-pass a kick record.

It was a good throw.

It was a dart.

Yeah, it's over.

And then we come back, and we've got this play.

We called it Black Pearl, and it was a beautiful thing.

And we get Tyreek to toss it to Kelsey and Patrick goes in the end zone.

And although he almost stepped out of bounds, and he should have been deeper.

But one corner plays both of them.

And your brother,

and your brother, I'm not going to talk to him.

I'm not going to look at you.

But your brother choked.

Yeah!

So he got there, and it was

and then hold it.

Not only that, so this is like in the first, second quarter.

It ruined him the rest of the game.

I didn't even even want to be there.

I didn't want to be there.

I think Tyreek had 300 yards.

This guy's got like the best arm ever.

And this was like a five-yard, not even a five-yard move.

He could have run it in.

It was all bad, man.

It was all bad.

But he came back.

Third times of charm, baby.

That's right.

Came back.

Third times of charm in the playoffs.

He's surviving Philly.

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