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Speaker 3 Our guest is Super Bowl MVP, Mr.

Speaker 25 Julian Edelman, baby. What's up?

Speaker 7 What an intro. What an intro.

Speaker 32 Woke was like one of the best route runners I've ever seen. Like the first couple years when I was with him, I was like, this dude's a fucking monster.
He was so small and so quick.

Speaker 32 Even on a press coverage, he could get like four steps in. He'd be doing his head shit.

Speaker 32 He could get guys to turn their hips and just

Speaker 25 and get in.

Speaker 32 Like his release came and his routes, they were fucking sick. And, you know, honestly, it was a huge part of, you know, how I got to learn the position.
You know, I came in playing quarterback.

Speaker 32 You know, so like I got to watch him and I got to take tidbits from fucking randy moss joey galloway like all these guys and even what's randy telling you just be bigger and faster than everybody and jump up and guess what like i just remember randy how hey dules hey dules

Speaker 25 he used to call me edelnut

Speaker 32 hey edelnutt get my hot tub about 103 and get my gator ray

Speaker 32 that's what we used to have the metal tubs yes you know you have metal tubs and hot tub yes he never wanted to go on the regular hot tub he had to have his own shit with the look he had to have this uh it was like menthol, rubbing alcohol in there.

Speaker 32 Fucking

Speaker 25 salt.

Speaker 32 And he go, Edelnut, go get my towel, my Gatorade, and make that hot tub about 103, 102.

Speaker 25 Don't fuck it up.

Speaker 35 It's one time.

Speaker 25 What a lesson. Yes, sir.

Speaker 27 This one time, Randy.

Speaker 32 It was like the day before Christmas, and we had to work. We had a game on Christmas or something.
And Randy was talking to his mom. And I just walked by.
I was like, hey, hey, Randy, tell mama moss.

Speaker 32 I said, you know, Merry Christmas.

Speaker 18 He goes, Edelnut, when I'm talking to my motherfucking mom, you shut the fuck up.

Speaker 25 I literally went like this.

Speaker 25 I looked at,

Speaker 32 and I fucking just, I walked away. He made eye contact.
I was so scared.

Speaker 36 I was a rookie.

Speaker 18 He's like, don't you fucking talk to me when I'm talking to my mom.

Speaker 26 But he'd always love me up too, you know?

Speaker 27 Of course.

Speaker 27 Yeah.

Speaker 32 But like, you could learn things from him, like how he tracked the ball. Like, like in one-on-ones, he would sit and run.

Speaker 32 And it looked like he wasn't running and the ball would come and we all know that the dbs play hands you throw your hands out there dbs are going to try to come through yeah he would just run and the ball would come right there and he just boop and just pop his little hands out the last second you know so you could take things from anyone yeah oh yeah especially as a route runner was welker like did he help you out with the route running all this stuff like or was it more just like watching him do it watching you know i love woke to death you know but he was kind of like the asshole older brother you know what i mean like i was there to take his job and he was there to.

Speaker 25 Well, that ended up happening when he got home, right? And he kind of got out of here.

Speaker 33 I know what an asshole older brother is, man. That is, it's a tough position to be in as the younger brother.

Speaker 25 I feel like I could be way more of an asshole. Oh, you thought I was talking about you.

Speaker 31 Did you actually take Jerry Rice's daughter to prom and try on the Super Bowl ring?

Speaker 25 Was that real?

Speaker 37 She took me to her prom.

Speaker 32 Ooh, and yes, I did wear those Super Bowl rings.

Speaker 25 That's all. Sorry, Jerry.

Speaker 32 I used to go into his office all the time. He was never home.
So I'd be over there playing with balls.

Speaker 25 I saw jerseys.

Speaker 32 It was crazy. Jerry Rice, bro.
I was a Bay Area kid. He was a fucking legend.

Speaker 25 I mean, the record setter himself.

Speaker 32 It was so crazy. And they had such a cool house.

Speaker 32 Man.

Speaker 25 I remember

Speaker 25 the first time I met him.

Speaker 32 Dude came out yoked up, six packed up with his chain on.

Speaker 32 He had his fucking dreads that are starting back here. He was old Jerry by then.

Speaker 25 Oakland Jerry?

Speaker 32 Oakland Jerry. He intimidated the fuck out of me.

Speaker 25 Yeah.

Speaker 32 Yeah, he wasn't having it. Which I understand.
I have a daughter. I have a daughter.

Speaker 34 I'm a father of one.

Speaker 3 Number 95, Chiefs Defensive Tackle.

Speaker 39 Chris Stone Cole

Speaker 23 Jones.

Speaker 23 Where are we at here?

Speaker 3 If we're sticking to it, it's the Combine.

Speaker 9 Nice Combine, man.

Speaker 22 I want to talk about it.

Speaker 35 You had one of the most electric combine moments I think has ever

Speaker 8 gone on national television, man.

Speaker 23 Let's just talk about it.

Speaker 28 Yeah, let's talk about it, big guy.

Speaker 42 How about 40 yard dashboard?

Speaker 11 I'm going to be honest with you, bro.

Speaker 23 I was so big on being different from everyone.

Speaker 41 Everybody was wearing the fucking long tights.

Speaker 44 I was like, you know what? I ain't like going out there and copying everybody. I'm going to wear the short tights.

Speaker 43 I didn't realize they was boxers, bro.

Speaker 43 I didn't realize they was boxers, bro. I understand God.

Speaker 15 And you know, they put you in the trains when you're standing combat.

Speaker 44 It's like these the rooms are like little train cabins.

Speaker 41 That I could barely see, so I'm just grabbing them.

Speaker 44 I'm like, I'm gonna put these on. I'm gonna run in these.
Fucking get out there. Everybody is looking crazy.
I'm like, let's do it.

Speaker 8 Oh, my gosh. Well, it made you faster, man.
They made you so fast, you tripped over your feet.

Speaker 9 Oh, my God.

Speaker 23 You tripped over that third leg.

Speaker 9 Tripped over and just jumped out, man.

Speaker 9 That shit is so fucking funny, man.

Speaker 8 I'm not going to lie. We were dying laughing.

Speaker 35 Like, when you first, the face you had when the camera came up to you,

Speaker 8 I believe you said it right there in quotes, like my dick fell.

Speaker 1 I think that's what you said right now.

Speaker 43 That's exactly what I said. I didn't even believe it.

Speaker 9 I was running.

Speaker 41 I'm looking at the 40, and all of a sudden, I feel it. I feel it touching my leg, and I'm like, oh, shit.

Speaker 44 So

Speaker 41 I try to tough it and take the dive. You know what I mean? Because I know little kids are watching.

Speaker 9 And oh my God.

Speaker 23 Put your dick away, Chris.

Speaker 47 I gotta say,

Speaker 6 how blessed you are to even be able to describe it as though your dick fell out.

Speaker 9 Because

Speaker 15 I don't even think I could describe that adjective of mine.

Speaker 39 I don't think it can fall anywhere.

Speaker 23 Oh, man, we gotta get those changes.

Speaker 9 That's some good shit, man. Oh, that's a good shit.

Speaker 40 Hey, man, what are you thinking about the kids, man?

Speaker 49 Put that shit away. That's crazy.

Speaker 9 I mean, that is it.

Speaker 23 That is crazy.

Speaker 3 Like, what would be going?

Speaker 50 I mean, I guess that is what's going through your head.

Speaker 28 You're like, oh, my gosh.

Speaker 47 There's kids watching.

Speaker 3 There's families here.

Speaker 23 I mean,

Speaker 6 that had to be.

Speaker 11 Quoted to Sports Illustrated in 2017.

Speaker 8 My dick came out.

Speaker 8 I look down and the hummer is out.

Speaker 39 The hummer.

Speaker 9 Man.

Speaker 8 Awesome call. You're the greatest man.

Speaker 41 Yeah, man. It was a lot of fun.

Speaker 39 We got the man, the myth, Mr.

Speaker 22 Rob Gonkowski, baby.

Speaker 3 What was it like meeting Tom? Do you remember the first time you met him?

Speaker 51 No, I guess I do. So I was in the training room getting my foot taped and my ankles taped or whatever.
And he comes up. He's like, hey, I'm Tom.

Speaker 9 And I was like, I was like, oh,

Speaker 17 no way.

Speaker 40 I was like, I got to play it. Cool, too.

Speaker 51 I was like, I'm just going to introduce myself. I'm not all a big fan or anything.
I was like, hey, I'm Rob, man.

Speaker 52 But it was just hilarious.

Speaker 51 It was like, yeah, Tom. Like, I know you're Tom, dude.

Speaker 17 Like, I'm in the facility.

Speaker 51 It's not like I'm meeting you somewhere else either.

Speaker 52 Like, I'm in the football facility.

Speaker 51 And then what was funny is like a couple years later, new rookies came in and he still did it to new rookies. And I was just sitting there watching like their reaction.

Speaker 51 And they're like, they all get confused. You're like, he just introduced himself as Tom.

Speaker 51 That was a good scene to see.

Speaker 3 Yeah, that's how you know you're a next-level superstar when you introduce yourself by your name and everybody's like, yeah,

Speaker 3 we know who you are, man.

Speaker 3 You don't got to say that anymore.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Is there, so I don't know what led to you guys having like such great chemistry?

Speaker 3 Was it just, you know, were you guys on the same wavelength? Was it practice?

Speaker 9 Was it all the above?

Speaker 51 Oh, yeah. I mean, definitely, not the same wavelength at first.
I mean, at first, I thought he was out of control, man. I was like, this dude, this dude, crazy.
Like, like, I just never

Speaker 51 really, yeah, I've never seen anyone in what way, like, I was like, like, like a dickhead, like, kind of. I was like, he's like a coach.

Speaker 51 Like, this isn't like my buddy, you know, like, you're going into that.

Speaker 51 Yeah. You're expecting it to be that.
What's that movie with Jamie Foxx as a quarterback?

Speaker 34 Sunday.

Speaker 12 And he gave us Sunday, baby.

Speaker 54 Give us Sunday. Like, that's in my mind.

Speaker 30 That's what I was expecting.

Speaker 55 That's what I was expecting.

Speaker 27 I'm right there with you.

Speaker 51 That's how I lived my first couple years in the NFL, too. Like, that's what I wanted.

Speaker 31 Like, the movie's tricky.

Speaker 17 Like, you think

Speaker 55 every time.

Speaker 54 So, I'm like,

Speaker 51 this isn't anything like any given Sunday. Like, I'm like, this guy, this guy's fucking yelling at me.
I mess up just a tad bit, and the dude's yelling at me, like, get over there like a coach.

Speaker 51 He's yelling at me more. And then it took me a little bit, you know, to realize where it was coming from and what the love was for.

Speaker 51 And I kind of felt like he was more hard on me at first because I think he saw some talent in me, man. I think he saw the opportunity that I had that was presented in front of me.

Speaker 51 And every single day, man, after practice, he would make me stay. He would make me and like two other rookies stay.
And he'd be like, we're getting on the same page.

Speaker 51 And he'd be throwing pass after pass, route after route. I'm like, man, I just took first team.
I took second team. And I took that.

Speaker 51 And they keep everyone after the rookies and the like second-year players. What's that called again?

Speaker 9 The minicamp.

Speaker 55 The rookie minicamp.

Speaker 9 Oh, yeah, yeah. The rookie minicamp.

Speaker 54 No, no, no.

Speaker 51 After practice,

Speaker 51 they bring over the guy to the other side of the field. Like, say it's joint training camp.

Speaker 34 That might be the Patriot winner.

Speaker 12 No, no, it was everywhere.

Speaker 51 It was like fundamentals or something. It was called.

Speaker 24 Yeah, we called it.

Speaker 3 We called it developmental.

Speaker 34 Yeah, that's what we call it. That one or something.

Speaker 51 And I did all that too. And then he'd be like, no, you're staying after.

Speaker 51 And then, boom, I'd be running 10 routes with him after the practice, too um and then he would be calling me in the meetings this is how i want you to run the route this is i don't ever want you to go around the guy here like it's a flag route he goes get outside of the guy when you run a corner if you go inside guess what i'm never throwing you the ball uh he just he was just always telling me the place i know where he wanted to me to be but i had so much going on that i freaking i freaking couldn't get it all down like i'm like okay i get i get it you want me there but like I can't get there.

Speaker 51 Like, I just, I'm thinking way too much. When you're thinking, you're losing already.
And I'm just thinking like crazy.

Speaker 52 Ties the feet up.

Speaker 34 But and then after that, it kind of clicked.

Speaker 12 He caught you up to speed.

Speaker 52 Yeah, he caught me up to speed.

Speaker 51 His speed was ridiculous when you, when I first got there.

Speaker 51 And then after a couple more practices, you know, going throughout the year, training camp, about halfway through my rookie season, everything started clicking.

Speaker 52 I was like, oh, all right.

Speaker 51 Like, this is what he wants.

Speaker 51 This is where he wants me to be. This is how he wants me to run the route and everything.
And then. Going into my second year, I was ready for it.

Speaker 51 I was like, oh, shit, I got this game down to a science now.

Speaker 52 I like two feet, but I got it down.

Speaker 51 And then we worked in the offseason and then going into training camp, just after practice every day, yo, let's go. Let's get on the same page.

Speaker 9 You were getting on him?

Speaker 52 Was there ever a day he forgot and you were like, hey, yo, Tom, we got to throw?

Speaker 51 Yeah, no, no, no, I never said that.

Speaker 54 The day he forgot, I said, oh, I was like, oh, I was like, oh, thank you.

Speaker 51 His kids are here. Because then he would run over to his kids.

Speaker 31 I'm like, oh, thank you, kids.

Speaker 16 Please welcome Mr.

Speaker 22 Matthew Stafford.

Speaker 57 Thank you very much. Thank you for having me.
That's a hell of an intro.

Speaker 60 I need you in-game.

Speaker 3 You played with two of the best D-tackles in this decade plus of football, and Aaron Donald and Dominican Sue.

Speaker 9 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Who frightens you more as a quarterback?

Speaker 60 You know, spent more.

Speaker 48 I probably played more.

Speaker 57 I don't know. It might be kind of close.

Speaker 60 I was going to say I played more games against Aaron Donald than I did Sue, but I played quite a few against Sue there kind of at the end.

Speaker 60 I would say having, you know, experience with both, AD is it was it was a different deal because there was like the get-off was crazy. I mean, he just wrecked practices.

Speaker 60 Sue was that way too in a lot of instances and was a great player for us in Detroit and then you know bounced around and had some unbelievable seasons at other places too. But

Speaker 60 AD was, that was something different just watching him go about his job every single day. I remember like the third practice I was there in training camp.
We have no pads on. We're in a quick game.

Speaker 60 I'm throwing a hitch to the field and I smash my thumb on his helmet. And I'm like, yo, I just caught the ball.

Speaker 9 He's like, catch, throw, bang.

Speaker 60 And I'm like, and next thing you know, everybody had the Guardian caps on.

Speaker 17 They're like,

Speaker 60 next ever something, you know, but it was,

Speaker 60 but he was, he was crazy in his ability. And I would say the respect that he got from offensive lines and

Speaker 60 other offenses was something I've never seen before.

Speaker 24 Yeah, I would agree with that.

Speaker 3 I mean, we treated him differently than any other defensive tackle that we ever played. And Sue was,

Speaker 3 I think Sue was like almost, he he like wanted to kill somebody yeah where ad wanted to kill somebody too but it was like a different level of intensity i agree ad though his like motor it was every single snap every single play you could not take a playoff and he never took a playoff he was running i i don't know how he had that kind of conditioning it was to this day yeah well you the combinedness of like his athleticism is exp like explosive in strength and smart peach never stopped

Speaker 60 smart player like i mean he knew like you talk to him like i get in the you know cafeteria and you sit down you talk to him and he's like yeah i knew if i wasn't doubled if the center didn't come to me it's run away yeah because the center comes to me every pass play yeah it's and if a center comes to me it's pass or it's run two yeah center goes away like you're not not blocking me with two so he knew it was run away and then he's shooting a backside gap i mean like he it was just like could make decisions and go like that that quickly and

Speaker 60 it was uh it was impressive to be around him and and watch him work i mean the way he worked out we had a uh um i'll never forget he was crazy in the weight room oh i'm right Like, The Rock came in and worked out with him one time and there was a night fighting.

Speaker 17 Yeah, I mean, he sees like, he's a maniac in the weight room, right?

Speaker 39 And

Speaker 60 I'll never forget, this was 21 or 22, maybe.

Speaker 60 We had like a make-a-wish kid who had like a year before had been like, hey, I want to, my dream is to go like be with Aaron Dombell for a day kind of thing.

Speaker 60 And thankfully, this kid at that point had kind of beaten the odds and had beaten the cancer that he had, I believe, and like was really on the men. And it was really cool.

Speaker 60 Like he came in and you're like, oh man, this guy's like doing good, right? High school kid, like, bigger kid, uh, like, love to play football. And AD was like, Cool, come work out with me, right?

Speaker 9 And I'm like, I'm walking by, I'm like, yo, what is about to go down?

Speaker 22 Yeah, right.

Speaker 60 And I look over, and like, I'm over there doing like banded something. And like, 30 minutes in, and AD's just ripping curls out.

Speaker 60 And this, and this, next thing you know, this kid is puking in the trash can in the hallway.

Speaker 17 Can you please like have a little cooth, a little understanding? Like,

Speaker 27 you want to be AD? You want it?

Speaker 17 You want to do it?

Speaker 17 It was on chemo for months, AD. We like

Speaker 60 just relax on the bicep curls for a little bit.

Speaker 61 It's like, how many do we do till we throw up?

Speaker 17 You know, it was just like unbelievable. I was like, this guy has no, I mean, the motor just never stops.

Speaker 61 It was incredible.

Speaker 35 I remember it was my first time playing in LA against the Rams, and it was a preseason game.

Speaker 31 And

Speaker 31 I'm number three, closest to the line.

Speaker 35 We're running all-go special.

Speaker 35 It's cover two or at least I see two high and I'm thinking I'm just right up the hash and I take off and I'm like man I'm just gonna fucking dig for my first like five to ten yards and by the time I got to the like five yards downfield I felt something throw me to the numbers and I got up out of that play like fucking like a little dazed I'm like what in the fuck was that

Speaker 1 and I watched it on film and it was AD coming from the backside B gap and just fucking smoked me oh I believe because it was a blitz from the other side and I was just like what the fuck?

Speaker 58 I had never felt like more of like

Speaker 62 the lightest thing in the game.

Speaker 17 Yeah.

Speaker 50 I had never moved that fast before ever in my life by anybody.

Speaker 60 I remember we were, I was in Detroit. We're playing a game against the Rams and they're in St.
Louis still at that point. Jim Bob was our coordinator.

Speaker 60 And, you know, I dropped back to pass late in the game. We need to play.
And Aaron, I have two hands on the ball, right?

Speaker 57 Like this.

Speaker 60 And Aaron just comes up from behind me and just rips both my biceps apart.

Speaker 9 The ball slides down to the ground.

Speaker 60 And I'm like, I'm I'm looking at him and I'm like, I come over to the sideline. I'm like, I mean, I'm pissed.

Speaker 64 And I'm like, I don't know what I was supposed to do there.

Speaker 60 He's like, you got to find a way to hold on to it.

Speaker 61 And I'm like, go fuck yourself, man.

Speaker 17 You think I'm going to be able to hold on to this is faster.

Speaker 57 And he just went like this and like, kindly separated my arms.

Speaker 60 He's like, I'll take the ball.

Speaker 17 What do I do? Like, is that what I was supposed to do?

Speaker 17 Hold on to it. Got it.

Speaker 9 Thanks, man.

Speaker 61 That's how this works.

Speaker 3 I was with Jim Bob.

Speaker 3 I'll never forget when he came up. We will probably cut this.

Speaker 9 Got to tell about it. Tell it anyways.

Speaker 3 So I'm sitting there. We had just hired Nick Sirian and Shane Steichen and Jim Bob was on the staff.
I had never met Jim Bob. Oh, yeah.
I didn't know about him in Detroit, really. Yeah.

Speaker 3 He comes up and he says, hey, Jason, my name's Jim Bob Cooter.

Speaker 48 And I just fucking laugh.

Speaker 55 Like audibly, like

Speaker 17 a giggle. Yeah.
And I'm like, oh, oh, that's fucking real.

Speaker 17 My bad on that one.

Speaker 9 awesome fucking dude i love joe he's a great dude all-time name

Speaker 3 the time magazine athlete of the year

Speaker 2 miss caitlin clark please welcome everyone

Speaker 3 we're gonna try the segment we've never done it it's probably gonna be very short-lived um it's called name a person

Speaker 3 we're gonna go around the horn and each name an athlete from iowa until we can't anymore oh gosh i feel like you're probably not going to struggle.

Speaker 45 Can you name current players?

Speaker 49 No, no, they just have to be an F.

Speaker 9 They have to be former players?

Speaker 17 Can they be current?

Speaker 35 No, they can be former.

Speaker 67 They have to be former. They have to be former.
You know, current?

Speaker 23 No,

Speaker 40 they can be current.

Speaker 69 I'm going to try to do like NFL current players. See if I can do.

Speaker 9 Okay.

Speaker 3 You might beat us in that, too. Travis has like the, actually, we both really have the positions.

Speaker 28 So let's see how it happens.

Speaker 9 All right. All right.

Speaker 23 Who's starting?

Speaker 8 I'll start. George Kittle.

Speaker 69 I knew that was going to be the first person he was going to say.

Speaker 3 I'm going to say Sam Laporta just to take Travis's answers away from him before.

Speaker 69 I'm going to go Tyler Linderbaum on the raid.

Speaker 40 Nice. I love it.
Nice.

Speaker 42 I'm going to go Claire Kittle.

Speaker 3 Tristan Worf.

Speaker 3 That's right. Solid answer.

Speaker 69 The Eagles, actually, rookie Cooper DeGine from Iowa.

Speaker 40 Nice. Nije, what about Will Forrest?

Speaker 3 TJ Hakasan.

Speaker 17 Ah, that's right.

Speaker 69 I always forget about him. What? He's on the Vikings, right?

Speaker 8 Yes. Yes.

Speaker 20 He's finally back healthy doing his thing.

Speaker 6 that's awesome i'm gonna get a throwback here i'm gonna get a throwback throwback robert gallery his wife actually played basketball at iowa too what there we go look at that

Speaker 69 yeah they actually came to quite a few of our games the last couple of years great people cool people

Speaker 69 oh gosh okay let's see

Speaker 9 hmm this is tough we stumped her we stumped her i'm thinking about nfl

Speaker 69 i'm gonna go geno stone i think he i think he's on the bengals now i'm pretty sure he had a pick six this past week.

Speaker 17 Ooh.

Speaker 23 All right. All right.

Speaker 49 All right.

Speaker 49 We respect Geno.

Speaker 42 I'm going to go a little Chiefs

Speaker 50 tight end when I first got to Kansas City, Tony Moiake.

Speaker 39 Oh, my dog, my Chi-Town brother.

Speaker 8 Shout out to Timo, man.

Speaker 23 I'm going to go

Speaker 3 another former teammate, Julian Vanderveld.

Speaker 23 E. Julian Vanderveld.

Speaker 69 Did anybody say Dallas Clark?

Speaker 9 No, the legends.

Speaker 2 He's holding on to that one.

Speaker 9 No gloves.

Speaker 45 No gloves.

Speaker 9 The May.

Speaker 35 I'll stay in the tight end world over there.

Speaker 50 Noah Fant.

Speaker 23 That's right.

Speaker 17 Seahawks, I think.

Speaker 9 Yes.

Speaker 9 Yep.

Speaker 50 8-7 over there in Seattle.

Speaker 9 All right. All right.

Speaker 67 I'm going to go Marshall Yonda.

Speaker 9 And this dude.

Speaker 67 I'm pulling up the old schools.

Speaker 69 I'm going to go Riley Moss on the Broncos. I'm going with the younger players.

Speaker 35 The ones that were in school with Well, I'll show my age and Jason's as well because he was the same recruiting class. He was also a Kansas City Chief when I got to Kansas City.

Speaker 2 Ricky Stanzy, quarterback, Iowa.

Speaker 9 Oh, man. This might be right.

Speaker 29 This is where it ends.

Speaker 15 This might be.

Speaker 3 I'm pretty sure Matt Tobin played for.

Speaker 40 I'm pretty sure.

Speaker 3 I'm next to positive.

Speaker 8 Then you lost. If you're pretty sure you lost.

Speaker 9 All right. We'll end it there.

Speaker 3 I think we all did very respectful.

Speaker 22 We did great.

Speaker 69 I'm impressed.

Speaker 8 That was fun. That was fun.

Speaker 6 Tobs with the eye.

Speaker 3 I knew it, Tobe.

Speaker 17 All right, there we go.

Speaker 31 That was a fun one.

Speaker 6 We welcome number 15, Patrick Mahomes, everyone.

Speaker 22 Wow, that was fun.

Speaker 9 That was a good thing. What a break to juice, baby.

Speaker 3 You and Travis are known for having quite the bromance, Pat.

Speaker 3 I see you guys hanging out all the place. I got to make it out there with Tahoe with you guys one year, but it's such a big bromance that even Brittany is jealous.

Speaker 27 She tweeted out how jealous she was of your guy's relationship a few weeks ago.

Speaker 3 What were your honest first impressions of Travis? And vice versa.

Speaker 3 How did this bromance come together?

Speaker 18 Should I tell them the story, dude?

Speaker 55 The story? That's your call.

Speaker 18 That's my call. It's a bad look on me.
But so obviously I get here at the beginning of the year, and I'm still a rookie.

Speaker 18 So, you know, I'm just kind of going through the motion, trying to figure out the best way to kind of fit in.

Speaker 18 And I think the first time that I thought, I was like, me and Travis are going to, we're going to be, we're going to be connected throughout this, my entire career, was, you remember when we had the fourth preseason game, we used to have a little off time.

Speaker 18 You had like a little weekend. You played on Thursday.

Speaker 18 Well, you know, Coach Reed always would give you the walkthrough the day before the actual walkthrough. And

Speaker 18 me being a kid fresh out of college, I had a couple buddies that were rookies with me, and they were like, let's go out. Saturday, man.
Let's go out.

Speaker 55 We'll have the walkthrough on Sunday.

Speaker 52 We're done with that.

Speaker 18 Just got back from St. Joe's.
We had a great preseason.

Speaker 18 So we go out, and Coach Rita told us the next day at like 8 o'clock, we're going to have a 15-minute walkthrough done. That's all you have on Sunday.
So I set eight alarms on my phone.

Speaker 18 I have them all. I go out with the rookies.
Of course, I get out there and I see old Travis Kelsey out at the same spot as I'm at. And I'm like, hey,

Speaker 18 Travis, like, come on, all y'all come to the come over here to the table.

Speaker 54 Let's do this.

Speaker 18 Let's have a great time. So I have a great night.

Speaker 18 Get home, have all my alarms set. I made sure of that.

Speaker 18 Go to sleep, wake up, not to an alarm.

Speaker 18 Wake up, look at the TV, and I see 8:15 on my TV screen on the resting thing.

Speaker 18 I didn't put my phone in the charger, so my phone died.

Speaker 18 And rookie mistake.

Speaker 34 Too many times.

Speaker 17 And so

Speaker 18 drive to, so obviously drove to the facility extremely fast.

Speaker 18 Dangerous.

Speaker 9 You can't overlook it.

Speaker 73 That initial feeling of understanding that you're not going to make it there on time is the most likely.

Speaker 9 No, no, no, no, no, this isn't happening.

Speaker 17 This isn't happening. This is happening.

Speaker 27 Am I dreaming?

Speaker 11 And then immediately you just start telling yourself how uselessly you stupid idiot.

Speaker 17 How could you do this?

Speaker 22 You suck.

Speaker 17 You're idiots. You're so unaccountable, man.

Speaker 68 Get it together, man.

Speaker 18 And then

Speaker 18 to complete the story, I get there and I get to the facility and they're already in the walkthrough, obviously, already going.

Speaker 18 And I walk up to the door and like how the Chiefs facility is built, the defense does it on the first side of the field, and the offense is on the other side. And I was like, There is no chance.

Speaker 18 I'm walking through the defense late to get to the offense side of the walkthrough.

Speaker 62 I ain't going out.

Speaker 18 Meanwhile, we're playing the Super Bowl champs,

Speaker 18 the Patriots, like on opening night that week.

Speaker 18 And so

Speaker 18 I sit in the locker room, and I'm just sitting there shaking my head. And they call me up to the office, and I get like the max fine, all this different stuff.
I feel like an idiot.

Speaker 18 And I just, I thought it was so weird that the first question they asked me was, Were you with Travis?

Speaker 18 And I was like, No, no, not at all. Why would you even ask that?

Speaker 18 And

Speaker 18 long story short,

Speaker 55 Travis was also late.

Speaker 18 He got there five minutes before,

Speaker 54 dude.

Speaker 9 I'm coming into the building like, fuck, man. I can't believe I fucking screwed this up again, man.

Speaker 52 Because

Speaker 37 I'm not going to say I'm notorious for late, but I screwed up a few times before and have been late.

Speaker 52 So I'm in my head about it.

Speaker 17 I'm like, man, Coach Reese is going to kill me, man.

Speaker 73 I can't even look at this guy in his eyes. I'm going to be looking down at the ground while he tells me I'm the worst teammate ever, man.

Speaker 34 And I walk into the building and they're like,

Speaker 52 Were you with Pat last night?

Speaker 73 Where's Pat at? I was just like,

Speaker 12 let's go, man.

Speaker 33 At that point, I knew we were teammates, man.

Speaker 17 I knew that guy was going to have Super Bowl.

Speaker 27 I died or died again, baby. I will say,

Speaker 18 since then, though, I believe me and Travis have never been late again. So we have been on the straight narrow since then.

Speaker 62 So I won't be late again. I don't know about Travis.

Speaker 52 I don't think Coach Reed will stand me ever being late again.

Speaker 31 So I have to make sure I get my ass up and going early, man.

Speaker 3 I was late one time in college. Do you remember the college rule? In Cincinnati, if you were late for the Friday morning lift,

Speaker 3 They would make you, the whole team do stadium steps

Speaker 12 now

Speaker 3 until the guy showed up. And they would take somebody to go back.

Speaker 18 Oh, my gosh.

Speaker 3 I woke up, same thing, realized I was late in my street clothes, went straight into the stadium and just started doing stadium steps.

Speaker 12 Let's go, man.

Speaker 55 They've been

Speaker 55 an hour and a half. This is how bad.

Speaker 62 Your teammates can respect that, though.

Speaker 18 Your teammates were like, this guy cares. No,

Speaker 37 he feels bad about it. He's doing it in Timberlands.

Speaker 12 It's sweet.

Speaker 37 I remember I used to do,

Speaker 73 what is it? I used to have like a psychological, like, yeah, man.

Speaker 37 I mean, time is time, you know, back in, back in college, like time, like I wasn't really pressed about being late.

Speaker 73 So I would show up late or something like that, and I would get told I got to be at that five, five o'clock stadium step run, and I would fuck, I would be ready.

Speaker 52 Like, I would be, that was the only thing I was on time for.

Speaker 9 And just like Rocky Balboa, that shit, just like sprint the fuck out of them and just be like, I'm getting better today, baby.

Speaker 52 So they stopped making me run stadium steps and started making me push pennies on like the weight room floor, which is not a slippery surface.

Speaker 55 You know what I mean?

Speaker 52 Yeah, I had to push pennies with my finger, and I wasn't allowed to.

Speaker 3 I've never heard of plate pushes.

Speaker 12 No, I've never heard of penny pushes.

Speaker 37 Pennies, pennies against a weight room floor, and I had to do it in a figure eight, and I wasn't allowed to be on like my knees or like legs out.

Speaker 17 You're like barreling.

Speaker 12 Yeah, I had to stand up.

Speaker 12 That's terrible.

Speaker 52 Dude, couldn't get hyped for that one, so they beat me up.

Speaker 18 The sickest thing I've done in college was we, you know, have you done like the rolls where you like, you have to get like this and just barrel roll across the field?

Speaker 55 Everybody's just throwing up the entire time.

Speaker 17 Terrible.

Speaker 18 Well, my first punishment, it was a team punishment for everybody who was missing class.

Speaker 18 Kingsbury had us do that, but he played

Speaker 18 Get Your Roll On, which is, everybody get your roll on.

Speaker 17 He played it for like 30 minutes straight.

Speaker 75 Everybody's just rolling and throwing up.

Speaker 55 I'm like, this is just psychological warfare by Coach Kingsbury out here at Texas Tech.

Speaker 12 That's good stuff.

Speaker 3 When you hear that song to this day, do you have like Pavlov's dog? Like, are you like immediately?

Speaker 9 No, I hate it.

Speaker 62 I hate it immediately.

Speaker 18 All I got to think about is how sick I was that Wednesday morning at 4.30 before class.

Speaker 73 That boy's stomach starts turning over, man. That's good shit.

Speaker 3 The ever-talented Mr. Jalen Hurts.
What's up, bro? Jalen, thank you for joining us.

Speaker 57 Woo!

Speaker 57 Glad to be here, man.

Speaker 49 So, uh, he's gonna make fun of me right here.

Speaker 17 What? What do you mean?

Speaker 76 How do you know it's coming?

Speaker 7 You made fun of yourself by doing this shit.

Speaker 30 Don't put it on me.

Speaker 37 Jason had a bad snap and gave you a forced fumble, man.

Speaker 40 He put it all on you last week, dog.

Speaker 52 First of all, have you ever had that happen?

Speaker 30 Have you ever had that happen where you're in shotgun and the center thinks you're under center?

Speaker 27 No, no, no, that wasn't what happened.

Speaker 76 I don't think that's what happened, not last week.

Speaker 17 Well,

Speaker 9 oh, you just we're on the same side.

Speaker 17 Oh, shit. All right, but uh,

Speaker 3 I snapped it when he wasn't calling for the ball.

Speaker 77 I wasn't, I wasn't ready to sing.

Speaker 17 I knew he didn't shot anything you were in shotgun, yeah.

Speaker 76 But, um, yeah, it's it snapped it early. So

Speaker 76 he has a very unique way of snapping the ball.

Speaker 6 He, I mean, it's a a very nice way of saying every quarterback that i've ever played with hates how i snapped the ball hey

Speaker 9 is it getting to you quick

Speaker 76 it's up on you hey you're rolling right in the center right here people always ask me why um you know why is your stand so low i'm like i gotta be in an athletic position day one sports to catch the ball when it's coming you know but oh yeah i mean because i remember um my rookie year when i came in like i come in i have a couple plays here and now throughout the game oh yeah and

Speaker 9 it was like a couple, like, I literally had maybe a handful.

Speaker 76 It's like, I go in there and fumble the snap because I just wasn't ready. Like, I wasn't in the position.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 9 Some of them were bad snaps.

Speaker 49 But, but, yeah,

Speaker 76 I ain't tripping, but you make all he do his thing.

Speaker 76 You know what I'm saying? He do his thing.

Speaker 34 I ain't tripping.

Speaker 3 I mean, really, I'd snap it fast, and I snap it fast because I want my hand back.

Speaker 15 That's about it.

Speaker 9 I got stuff to do.

Speaker 40 You got to use Jesus.

Speaker 35 This is not 1940 where you can't use those hands.

Speaker 9 You can actually put them on somebody.

Speaker 3 Yeah, like, you know, my advantage of my skill set is quickness, right? So I want to get up on the guy quick.

Speaker 3 I want to be able to get in the proper leverage because I'm not going to out-muscle nobody. So

Speaker 68 just snap fast.

Speaker 17 I ain't.

Speaker 9 I have no complaint.

Speaker 28 The plus side is you got more time to make a decision if it's in the right spot.

Speaker 76 Well, I try, like I said, I try and put myself like, if I have to squat a little lower to catch it, tripping about it.

Speaker 76 He always asks me, like, how was that snapped?

Speaker 76 Or if something, if there's like an MA in the backfield or something like that, he's like, kind of like, I know he's thinking about if he snapped it good or not. I'm like, hey, you good, baby.

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Speaker 74 Wait, so Reese's color is orange, and the Oreo cookie was invented in 1912.

Speaker 1 This one's been in the vault waiting for its moment.

Speaker 74 Reese's Oreo. The biggest drop since, well.

Speaker 71 This is a real good story about Bronx and his dad, Ryan, real United Airlines customers.

Speaker 79 We were returning home, and one of the flight attendants asked Bronx if he wanted to see the flight deck and meet Captain Andrew.

Speaker 75 I got to sit in the driver's seat.

Speaker 80 I grew up in an aviation family, and seeing Bronx kind of reminded me of myself when I was that age.

Speaker 71 That's Andrew, a real United Pilot.

Speaker 80 These small interactions can shape a kid's future.

Speaker 75 It felt like I was the captain.

Speaker 79 Allowing my son to see the flight deck will stick with us forever.

Speaker 80 That's how good leads the way.

Speaker 80 So call us Joe Shasty! So call him Joe Q. I'll do Pizzatus, please get some knowledge to our pro-volume quarterback.
Joe! Poor Bolly!

Speaker 27 I am pro-taunting, yeah.

Speaker 3 So am I. Why are you pro-taunting?

Speaker 72 We're all grown adults that work really hard at what we do, and sometimes we like to show it.

Speaker 65 I'm not going to get my feelings hurt if somebody sacks me and taunts me like, you made a play, I didn't. Like, good for you.
You're allowed to taunt.

Speaker 81 Have you ever given them a taunting flag?

Speaker 17 I've never got a taunting flag.

Speaker 65 I don't know how many you got.

Speaker 82 At what level of football?

Speaker 17 He's throwing a flag. He's throwing at me.

Speaker 55 I'm here, Joe.

Speaker 17 That's my favorite one.

Speaker 9 He's throwing the flag at the right.

Speaker 66 You can get a little feisty out there.

Speaker 27 Just a wee bit.

Speaker 17 Yeah. I have

Speaker 66 going to talk that shit.

Speaker 81 Anger management, and I talk entirely too much.

Speaker 81 I do. Actually, one of my favorite taunting penalties that I got.

Speaker 81 Yes, I do have favorites.

Speaker 77 We were playing the Eagles.

Speaker 81 My first time playing actually on the field against the Eagles in Kansas City.

Speaker 3 We did lose that game.

Speaker 81 Yes, that was the last game you guys lost that year.

Speaker 81 So we played them, and sure enough, it's a low-scoring game.

Speaker 38 We could have moved the ball too well on him.

Speaker 81 Smitty handed that thing off to Kareem Hunt,

Speaker 81 and it was me and Brandon Graham talking shit the entire time.

Speaker 66 BG talks major shit. He will.

Speaker 81 It was before I knew BG all like that.

Speaker 35 And then, sure enough,

Speaker 81 he got a little winning. You know,

Speaker 32 they come in like hockey subs on the defensive line.

Speaker 81 Yeah, it's some bullshit. And sure enough, he went off for a play.

Speaker 83 I hemmed up the D-lineman that came in for him on one back power, which if you guys don't believe I can block, I blocked the power.

Speaker 72 I was going to say, you were blocking?

Speaker 81 I was, and I did my job.

Speaker 72 And I felt so good that I thought I'd run over to the sideline and tell Brandon Graham to bring his ass back out here.

Speaker 17 Hey,

Speaker 17 what happened?

Speaker 38 Well, I got a flag for going to the sideline.

Speaker 17 I'm talking to the sideline.

Speaker 81 You can't do that, kids.

Speaker 81 And then Brandon Graham just continued to throw me around for the rest of the game.

Speaker 66 BG, little pit bull.

Speaker 3 Who's the best shit talker that you played? You already talked about Fletcher Cox. You're welcome to the NFL, BG's known for it.
Is there anybody else that's really up there for you?

Speaker 65 Not really. No.
No.

Speaker 17 That's fair.

Speaker 34 What about you, Arlur? Oh,

Speaker 84 you played against Max Crosby, right?

Speaker 65 Yeah, he wasn't talking when we played him, though.

Speaker 9 Oh, Max, what do we do?

Speaker 66 I'm pretty nice to the defensive line.

Speaker 72 Smart. So

Speaker 65 people aren't really talking to me like that because I'll just be like, Joe gets it.

Speaker 27 Nice play, man.

Speaker 9 I'm not trying to get hit like that.

Speaker 27 Smart guy, smart guy.

Speaker 66 I would have to say, biggest shit talkers.

Speaker 70 I've played with him at the top of my list.

Speaker 42 I got a story for him, too.

Speaker 17 BG,

Speaker 70 and then our guy, Trey Henderson.

Speaker 17 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 55 Yeah. Holy shit.

Speaker 66 Shout out, Trey, man.

Speaker 42 Love it. What a bad man.

Speaker 62 Yeah. Yeah, hell yeah.

Speaker 66 But Trav's going to talk that shit.

Speaker 70 We were playing Denver one time, Sunday night, and

Speaker 70 he comes in motion.

Speaker 66 This is mid-cadence.

Speaker 70 White 80, what he comes in motion back and forth, and my DN's wearing goggles.

Speaker 66 And as he comes back across the guard, he looks at the DN.

Speaker 17 He says, Man, you got on fucking goggles. Oh, this guy's got on fucking goggles.
White 80 said,

Speaker 72 I'm like, man, it's a trap. Travis, Trav, go talk it.

Speaker 27 He's gonna talk that talk, man.

Speaker 82 You gotta even fucking see.

Speaker 42 Blind as a bat.

Speaker 6 You know him as the big Shamrock, the big Aristotle,

Speaker 39 the Superman, Shack this,

Speaker 22 the diesel. We got him.

Speaker 15 Simply Shack.

Speaker 5 AKA, the black Kelchie, brother.

Speaker 17 Let's go.

Speaker 30 You got a favorite dunk of all time?

Speaker 5 My favorite dunk of all time was two of them. And I actually just seen this dude the other day, Chris Dutley, and he looked at me.
I was like, are you trying to fight? Are you trying to give me a hug?

Speaker 5 He started laughing. I started laughing hugs.

Speaker 23 Nice.

Speaker 5 I took it as a sign of respect when you didn't double me. So I'm back.
and I don't even know who's on me. Like, you know, they switch.
I'm like, I know this ain't fucking Chris Duttley.

Speaker 5 So I take one little dribble to double still. Like, come on, I take, you know, he's trying to, yeah,

Speaker 23 so I'm like,

Speaker 5 I take one dribble, like, the fuck. I take two dribble.
I even carry on the second. I was like, oh, these motherfuckers not coming.

Speaker 9 Now I gotta

Speaker 5 take that and then just drop step and then boom. And like he was all on me.

Speaker 85 And I was like, fuck off, man.

Speaker 5 And then my second favorite dunk was game seven. Portland's kicking our ass.
They are kicking our ass. So we come to the time out in the fourth quarter and Phil Jackson.

Speaker 5 Remember what I told you used to like mind, play with your minds?

Speaker 9 Mm-hmm.

Speaker 5 All right, guys, great year. You're kicking your ass.
I'll see you next year. So now we're like, Kobe's pissed.
He said it. I'm pissed as he said it.
I'm like, man, fuck that.

Speaker 5 Let's go on a little run.

Speaker 11 Legendary quote, man.

Speaker 5 Kobe's in Kobe mode. He's getting to the hole.
Two people, three people, he don't care. He knows he has to score.
And I'm telling him the whole time, hey man, that fucking lab is open.

Speaker 40 All right, all right.

Speaker 5 Hey, man, that lab is open. So we make kind of eye contact.
I don't want to say he winked at me, but he looked at me and he crosses Scotty up at the top of the key. You know what?

Speaker 5 I'm not going to even talk about the clip. Here it is, right here.

Speaker 24 Yeah.

Speaker 9 Enter, Brandon.

Speaker 29 Don't you fuck that up.

Speaker 64 Yeah, don't you fuck that up.

Speaker 2 You better be on your shit, Brandon.

Speaker 42 But that was like the backdoor oop, the spin-off and the government iconic.

Speaker 5 No, no, that was the one where he crossed Scotty up and he got in the mid lane and he threw the motherfucker up too high. high and I had to go get it.

Speaker 22 Oh, whoa, whoa, okay, Brandon. Okay, Brave Brando.
Okay, Brandon.

Speaker 9 Right there. Throw it up, Kobe.

Speaker 23 Throw it up, Kobe.

Speaker 9 Yeah,

Speaker 85 Cobe.

Speaker 5 Good pass. Yes, sir.
That one right there.

Speaker 3 That place is fucking rocking.

Speaker 72 Oh, my God.

Speaker 5 Because I kept telling, I was like, yo, man, the lobby's there. He was like, because

Speaker 5 listen, one thing about Cole, when Kobe gets in killer mode, don't fucking talk to him. Like, he's not trying to hit nothing.
Like, he knows he's in attack mode. He's going to score first if anything.

Speaker 5 I'm like, yo, man, that lobster.

Speaker 40 All right.

Speaker 5 Yo, Cove, the lobster. All right.
Motherfucker, I said the lobster. Yeah, all right.
And then, like, he at the top of the key and he gives me one of the little things right there, and I'm like, huh?

Speaker 9 Huh? Is this it?

Speaker 85 And then, and then, and then when he threw it up, the motherfucker threw up too high.

Speaker 53 I had to fucking go. I was like, ah, don't go get it.

Speaker 5 And then, and then, you know, as you see, I didn't catch it. Like, I just, I

Speaker 5 said to myself, I said to myself, I get my hands on it, just fucking punch it through. Play it again, Brandon.

Speaker 56 Hurry up, Brandon.

Speaker 56 Play it one more time, Brendan.

Speaker 22 He's not ready.

Speaker 23 He's not ready. Come on, Brandon.

Speaker 9 Look, right here.

Speaker 5 See, he backs it right there and right there. He said, okay, boy, yeah, you see that hand?

Speaker 85 That's the second one.

Speaker 5 He threw it, and I just fucking slapped that bitch.

Speaker 15 Yeah, I just slapped it through.

Speaker 12 It's fucking electric.

Speaker 39 Please welcome Philadelphia Eagle Saquon

Speaker 22 Barkley.

Speaker 39 Here we go.

Speaker 27 I need that. I wish I got to have you two around.

Speaker 51 I needed more intros like that, you know?

Speaker 38 Could an average person gain one yard on a rushing play in the NFL?

Speaker 6 Yeah. The average person?

Speaker 21 Look at Jets Jake right now.

Speaker 3 Jet Jake, come on, camera, so we can see what you look like.

Speaker 64 Jets, come on, come on up here.

Speaker 63 I got to say yes now. I'm just dissing.

Speaker 17 I'm just dissing.

Speaker 9 No harsh feelings here.

Speaker 7 He's a Jets guy himself as well.

Speaker 9 Do you play any ball back in your gym?

Speaker 17 No. No.

Speaker 63 There we go. If you had to run a 40 right now, under six seconds? No chance.
No chance.

Speaker 9 So you're just,

Speaker 50 you're not helping the cause at all.

Speaker 17 No, not at all.

Speaker 75 I'll just play.

Speaker 9 What's the play? 43. What's the like?

Speaker 72 20, 20 vision.

Speaker 63 Yeah, that's a start. What's the play?

Speaker 63 Actually, I got to say, there's a game I had because the New York Jets had 13 carries and one rushing yard.

Speaker 23 Holy cow.

Speaker 63 And I would say I'm a pretty good running back.

Speaker 34 At least you got one.

Speaker 63 So you're probably not getting it. Yep.

Speaker 27 Yeah.

Speaker 63 Average person probably not getting one yard.

Speaker 34 And he's out.

Speaker 17 All right.

Speaker 9 I had to think that one through.

Speaker 3 I think about it sometimes because, like, if any, like, if a guard and a tackle destroy a double team, like, anybody could probably get a yard, but you got to think about the game.

Speaker 28 How long is it going to take them to get to the

Speaker 3 fast everything changes?

Speaker 64 I'll told his best.

Speaker 3 Oh, gosh.

Speaker 40 They wouldn't even know.

Speaker 3 If the average guy's jets, Jake.

Speaker 63 If his outside zone knows shit. Shot a shot.

Speaker 7 My bad, Jake.

Speaker 17 I love it.

Speaker 21 You're above average

Speaker 31 in my heart.

Speaker 3 Above average person.

Speaker 8 Way above average person.

Speaker 63 That's what matters. We don't.

Speaker 23 We don't. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Who can squat more, you or Jalen Hurts?

Speaker 27 Ooh. That's not even close.

Speaker 7 You think it's not even close?

Speaker 17 It's not even close.

Speaker 1 Jalen?

Speaker 17 Jalen's got you?

Speaker 10 No. They're what? No.

Speaker 17 I don't do that no more.

Speaker 63 I don't do that no more. But like,

Speaker 63 when I was really in that mindset of squatting and like squat off, I would put myself up there with a lot of people.

Speaker 3 I'm watching this clip of,

Speaker 3 let's say, Quad squatting 585 right now.

Speaker 63 Was that in college? Nah, that was like.

Speaker 9 No, this is the pros. Damn.

Speaker 17 And it's not even remotely difficult.

Speaker 63 I don't max out anymore. Stuff like that.

Speaker 63 Those days are one of those days where it's like you're like, oh, let's just push the fucking needle a little bit. Let's put something on you and try it.

Speaker 27 Just put a car on our back.

Speaker 63 Jalen Strong, he's probably the strongest quarterback in the NFL that he could squat ever.

Speaker 17 Tebow squatting

Speaker 17 was T-Bow squatting.

Speaker 63 T-Bow's a bit pretty big, dude.

Speaker 17 He had to be. He's a quarterback?

Speaker 47 Wow.

Speaker 3 Well, you know, Jalen, powerlifter when he was a queen.

Speaker 64 Tebowback. I'm a quarterback.

Speaker 22 Wow.

Speaker 9 What? I'm not a quarterback.

Speaker 61 Five shots.

Speaker 17 He played the same, too. He moved a tight end.

Speaker 41 His last. Yep, bring it together.

Speaker 61 His last game was a tight end.

Speaker 23 That's all I'm saying. Fair fair.

Speaker 60 I do a touchdown in the playoffs all right now.

Speaker 3 After watching those two clips, that 585 squat was damn impressive.

Speaker 63 Jalen's pretty strong. He don't got anything.

Speaker 27 Shout out to Debo, too.

Speaker 82 He's my favorite college football player.

Speaker 31 Behind Cam Newton and Reggie Bush.

Speaker 63 I'm a better one squat, like one rep max too.

Speaker 23 Same.

Speaker 63 Yeah, I'm not like you put it out like you're more of like

Speaker 63 put it on, give me a number, sit down, and stand the fuck up.

Speaker 3 Do you know what the most you've ever squatted is?

Speaker 63 The most I probably ever put on my back was in the 600s, but it's college, NFL. I never really got

Speaker 63 to do. We don't do one rep max.

Speaker 17 Ran out of bar.

Speaker 64 You can't put kids.

Speaker 35 The weights don't even fit on the bar at that point.

Speaker 9 You got the bands holding it on at that point?

Speaker 48 Yeah, right.

Speaker 39 Yeah.

Speaker 9 It just looks like a bad thing.

Speaker 17 That's when you feel like a U.

Speaker 9 It just looks like a U when you pull it off of the rack.

Speaker 64 That's right.

Speaker 7 Do you use the Valsalvo technique?

Speaker 21 It's where, Jason.

Speaker 9 You fill up with air.

Speaker 15 Fill up with air.

Speaker 9 You might be.

Speaker 3 Well, listen, I guess when you got quads as good as Saquon, you don't need the Valsalvo.

Speaker 64 We had to use everything we could.

Speaker 7 Every technique that we possibly could. Have you ever

Speaker 7 flexed out?

Speaker 27 What does that mean?

Speaker 77 Like you like.

Speaker 38 And then all of a sudden you get real lightheaded.

Speaker 17 And then just hit the...

Speaker 64 And fall?

Speaker 17 Yeah.

Speaker 64 It's a thing on TikTok.

Speaker 17 People have a lot of people.

Speaker 27 I never, I haven't, I've got light-headed.

Speaker 17 It's one of my favorite segments.

Speaker 39 92%ers, please welcome Northeast Ohio's finest, Mr. LeBron J.

Speaker 15 Let's go.

Speaker 22 Oh, my God.

Speaker 50 Yo, yo, Jason, that might, yo, Jason, that might have been the greatest introduction of all time.

Speaker 26 Well, you see all these shoes behind me, man. You already know I'm a sneakerhead.

Speaker 21 I know.

Speaker 29 I've collected them over the years man

Speaker 26 was it always Nike I you used to wear the T-Max at St. Vincent St.

Speaker 89 Mary I see I think I've seen you wear the the old Iversons was it always Nike Trav no it was not it was not always Nike it was Nike when I was a young kid when I was a young lad obviously you know you you know I've been in love with Michael Jordan my whole life so come on you know I saw him, Penny Hardaway, you know, Ken Griffey Jr., Bo Jackson.

Speaker 46 I watched all these unbelievable sports figures.

Speaker 89 So as a kid growing up, it was Nike.

Speaker 46 Once I got into the AAU program, started playing basketball, Adidas took us over,

Speaker 53 you know, and it became Adidas.

Speaker 89 It was Adidas like from seventh, eighth grade to pretty much my junior, senior year.

Speaker 21 They sponsored us every year.

Speaker 89 We played in all the Adidas tournaments, big time tournament in Vegas and all over the United States of America.

Speaker 46 So it was it was Adidas.

Speaker 87 And then my senior year, the process began.

Speaker 89 The recruitments, the Nikes came in, and the Adidas was still there.

Speaker 86 Reebok came in

Speaker 87 and won.

Speaker 90 You know, all these companies came in.

Speaker 86 And I took on three

Speaker 22 pitches.

Speaker 21 I did an Adidas pitch.

Speaker 11 I did a Reebok pitch.

Speaker 89 I did a Nike pitch.

Speaker 50 The best pitch that I got where I thought I was going to end up was actually Reebok at one point.

Speaker 40 Reebok.

Speaker 89 I went to their meeting.

Speaker 21 I went to their meeting

Speaker 89 and I sat down across from their CEO and the guys that was running basketball. At the time, I don't know if you guys remember this, but Reebok had the NFL as well.

Speaker 9 Yes,

Speaker 9 that was what it was when I first got into the league.

Speaker 89 Yeah, they had the NFL as well.

Speaker 45 So, they, you know, they knew my love, they knew my love for football as well.

Speaker 89 So, they had all the NFL jerseys, all the Pro Bowl-looking jerseys that was going to be the next year.

Speaker 90 And I'm sitting across from the table. I'm a senior in high school.

Speaker 21 I actually have to have, I actually

Speaker 43 go to the school.

Speaker 50 I'm going back to class the next day.

Speaker 86 They flew me in.

Speaker 41 I'm going back to St.

Speaker 50 Vincent, St.

Speaker 90 Mary the next day, my senior year.

Speaker 86 And the guy slides over a check to me at the end of the table.

Speaker 90 It's me and my mom and Maverick Carter at the end of the table.

Speaker 42 And he says,

Speaker 11 If you don't go talk to any other companies, this is yours.

Speaker 89 And I look at it.

Speaker 50 I look at it.

Speaker 11 $10 million fucking dollars. Oh!

Speaker 90 $10 million.

Speaker 1 you're right there as an 18 year old.

Speaker 7 I was still stealing change out of my dad's fucking piggy bank.

Speaker 90 I was a high school senior man.

Speaker 89 They gave me a check for $10 million if I promised not to go see anybody else. I told him I need a break.

Speaker 42 They stepped out.

Speaker 53 I need to fucking

Speaker 22 30.

Speaker 22 Right.

Speaker 53 I need to time out.

Speaker 87 My mom looked at it and me and my mom, we're living in an apartment.

Speaker 89 And, you know, Section A housing in Akron.

Speaker 87 I'm going back.

Speaker 21 I don't have shit, whatever.

Speaker 50 And my mom looked at me.

Speaker 89 She said, son, trust your gut.

Speaker 21 If they're offering you this, then who knows what the other companies may offer you.

Speaker 10 Okay, mom.

Speaker 3 Yeah, ma, she's composed.

Speaker 45 Yeah, she's super composed.

Speaker 86 She's like, we ain't got shit already.

Speaker 87 So it's not like, you know, it changes our life at this moment.

Speaker 21 Yes, maybe in the future, but I want you to trust your gut and

Speaker 21 do what you think is right.

Speaker 35 That's awesome awesome advice, man.

Speaker 86 So they came back in, boop.

Speaker 21 I said, thank you.

Speaker 89 I will, you know, I will definitely like to continue our conversation, but I would be remiss if I did not take those other pitches from the other companies.

Speaker 9 I may have cried on the way home because I had to leave the television.

Speaker 9 You questioned, man, I hope I just made the right decision.

Speaker 88 I was like, I could have bought the building that me and my mom was living in with that goddamn

Speaker 39 easily.

Speaker 3 I got a similar, my, my rookie year or my rookie contract. I'm coming up.
I'm redoing my rookie contract. And I decide potentially, I'm like, okay, I think I might do this myself.

Speaker 3 I might forego and just be my own agent, negotiate my own contract. And thankfully, my agents were like, they talked me into like, no, no, no, we need to, you're going to want an agent.

Speaker 2 Trust me, Jason.

Speaker 3 They sent over the first offer, and I was like, all right, where do we sign? They're like,

Speaker 3 we can go high. We can go high.

Speaker 9 Oh, man.

Speaker 50 That's funny as shit.

Speaker 3 Yeah, that first time you get get a check like that thrown in front of you.

Speaker 6 You never forget.

Speaker 23 You never seen it. You never forget.

Speaker 88 You never seen that many zeros in your life.

Speaker 45 Never, never, never.

Speaker 9 Yes, yes.

Speaker 8 Man, that's too funny.

Speaker 3 Have you seen this tweet from 2015? LeBron is 30.

Speaker 9 This fuckery will go on for much longer. Thank God.

Speaker 88 Yes, I saw that tweet.

Speaker 22 throughout my all of my 30s all of my 30s and i laughed at it so harder and you just just put it right there.

Speaker 9 And you know what?

Speaker 88 I know what's funny. When I turned 40, the same fucking guy said, LeBron turned 40.

Speaker 47 This fucker won't go on much longer.

Speaker 53 That fucking gold, man.

Speaker 39 That's so good.

Speaker 39 So good.

Speaker 9 Look at that.

Speaker 39 That's so good.

Speaker 9 Oh, my goodness. Oh, my goodness.

Speaker 88 He's going to be real upset when I turn 50.

Speaker 9 No doubt.

Speaker 88 No doubt.

Speaker 20 That shit was fucking classic, man.

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Speaker 39 It's the big man, big red, Andy Reed is in the building. Coach Reed is with us.

Speaker 3 So we got the draft coming up. So we think we'd start with the draft.
You obviously drafted both of us.

Speaker 3 And I don't know if I've ever told you the story, but I was in the Pro Bowl one year, and John Grudem was sitting there. I think you guys had done a production meeting.

Speaker 3 And he said, you know, I saw Andy before one of the games. And I said, so you drafted Jason and you drafted Travis.
And he said, your response was,

Speaker 3 I drafted Jason, I drafted Travis. And if there's any other Kelseys out there, I'll draft them too.
So I'm asking you right now on the spot, why my daughter is three years old.

Speaker 3 If you're still coaching in 18 years, can we get another Kelsey draft thing on?

Speaker 15 Absolutely.

Speaker 9 Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 42 You've got a wife. You've got a baby girl.

Speaker 3 Do you remember what led to me getting drafted? And do you remember, I think we all remember what led to him getting drafted because all three of us were on the phone that day.

Speaker 3 I guess what's the story behind

Speaker 48 yours? Mine, and then we'll talk about Travis's.

Speaker 68 Yours was real easy.

Speaker 24 So you were a great player. Okay.

Speaker 68 A little bit undersized.

Speaker 24 Yeah.

Speaker 93 But had tremendous toughness, speed.

Speaker 93 You were smart and dirty tough. And so I, you know, that was an easy decision.

Speaker 15 And we needed a center.

Speaker 93 And so you fit in. We just got rid of all that linebacker stuff in you.

Speaker 68 Gave you to Howard Mudd and cut you loose.

Speaker 68 This guy, I saw play against Temple.

Speaker 40 Yeah.

Speaker 93 And my son kept telling me, this tight end is unbelievable. Kelsey's brother is like incredible.
I mean, you know, he's 265 pounds. He's a beast.
And then I get

Speaker 23 him. He's in scouting.

Speaker 9 I know. Then I get him.

Speaker 68 He's like 240. But that's what.

Speaker 39 But I remember this.

Speaker 94 I'm going to bring back a memory for you.

Speaker 68 Game's over. They just destroyed Temple.

Speaker 93 And I come over to the locker room. You're there with your boss.

Speaker 24 And he comes walking beep up and out and just giving me the business. Yeah.

Speaker 15 Like we're long-lost friends.

Speaker 39 And I'm going,

Speaker 93 deep down, I'm going, if I get my hands on that son of a buck, I am going to rip his heart out.

Speaker 95 But I play along with it.

Speaker 9 Yeah, I play along with it. Cocky, cocky.

Speaker 93 Jamie is is cocky. Yeah.

Speaker 68 But listen,

Speaker 93 I knew the roots.

Speaker 68 I knew the roots. So for the first five years,

Speaker 55 it was a war.

Speaker 93 The last five years has been unbelievable. You know, he traveled the country to 50 states

Speaker 9 50 girls. I knew this show would be easy.

Speaker 47 I knew this show would be easy.

Speaker 49 The show would be easy.

Speaker 23 Yeah, this is.

Speaker 68 We've named plays after it.

Speaker 49 We've had our fun. My play has been a hell of a play for us, Coach.

Speaker 93 No, it has. It has.

Speaker 94 Constant seven.

Speaker 49 Not that show, though.

Speaker 3 Not that show.

Speaker 24 Not a show.

Speaker 93 We won't rerun that show.

Speaker 82 I don't think anybody's rerunning that show.

Speaker 3 Do you think, so back to draft night, does Travis get drafted if you don't, if you hadn't drafted me and knew me already? With the red flags that were kind of out there around him?

Speaker 93 Yeah, that would have been tough.

Speaker 68 If you were in the league, I still would have called you.

Speaker 48 Yeah.

Speaker 24 Yeah, I would have called you. Somewhere I would have called you and

Speaker 93 checked on him just to make sure because I had heard the rumors about him.

Speaker 48 Yeah.

Speaker 3 What do you think now having known those rumors and now having coached him for 10 years?

Speaker 68 Yeah, so like I said, for like the first five years,

Speaker 68 those rumors were pretty close.

Speaker 24 Yeah.

Speaker 68 For the next five years, they've been awesome.

Speaker 24 I mean, he's, I've watched him blossom into a leader.

Speaker 93 And I mean, he's always been a great player, but tremendous leader.

Speaker 68 Big heart.

Speaker 93 Teammates love him. You're not the only leader in the family.

Speaker 9 Yeah, I know that.

Speaker 82 Trev, show your personality, baby.

Speaker 15 That's right.

Speaker 3 That's one of the the beautiful things that I think is behind your coaching philosophy is everybody gets to lead in their own way. And Trav does it his way.
I do it mine.

Speaker 3 I think Travis' personality, he always cares about his teammates, always wants to win. He's just a little bit young and trying to have a little bit too much fun, but that's caught up.

Speaker 8 Never have too much fun.

Speaker 6 I mean, I told both of you guys, let your personality show.

Speaker 68 Yes. He threw the flag at the officials.

Speaker 15 That was amazing.

Speaker 9 You picked it up and handed it to him.

Speaker 95 That's the difference.

Speaker 3 That's an amazing clip. So I don't even know if we need to ask this, but who did you yell at most the rookie year, me or Travis?

Speaker 68 I was hoarse with him.

Speaker 39 Yeah.

Speaker 39 No, it was every day.

Speaker 9 It was every day.

Speaker 49 It was every day, baby.

Speaker 82 But hey, listen, that's how you know that that's how I knew that you saw something in me, though.

Speaker 35 So you already know.

Speaker 82 I never reacted in a bad way, did I?

Speaker 9 No, no.

Speaker 43 That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 58 I was always ready to just rock and roll, baby.

Speaker 27 Yeah.

Speaker 24 Yeah, no, you were good with it.

Speaker 82 You already know it's all you young guys out there. Don't be afraid to get yelled at.

Speaker 3 We got to ask this. Was Trav.
Trav is very upset that he wasn't the first tight end drafted his draft year. Was he the first tight end on the Chiefs draft board that year?

Speaker 68 He actually was the first one.

Speaker 48 Really? Yeah.

Speaker 3 You're not making this up in hindsight.

Speaker 10 No,

Speaker 3 we were going to get him.

Speaker 67 That's who we wanted. That's who you wanted.

Speaker 24 That's who we wanted.

Speaker 22 Gosh.

Speaker 24 Yeah, John Dorsey was a part of this.

Speaker 96 I mean, you can double check with John.

Speaker 24 That was a slam dump.

Speaker 68 He was going to be a chief.

Speaker 61 I loved it.

Speaker 43 I'm here. I'm fired up right now.

Speaker 39 All right.

Speaker 15 Let's talk some QBs.

Speaker 82 When did you know that I wasn't a QB?

Speaker 48 Well, there are a couple different times.

Speaker 39 If you want to

Speaker 96 take it back to New York, there was a...

Speaker 23 Oh, Adio.

Speaker 15 Just listen.

Speaker 94 If in doubt, run the ball.

Speaker 9 There you go.

Speaker 96 Adi are.

Speaker 3 He has said the coaching point you told him, which is do not travis do not throw this ball you're not making a read it's either there or you're running

Speaker 93 he wanted to see if he could beat my pump pass a kicker

Speaker 3 it was a good throw it was a dart yeah it's over

Speaker 96 and then we come back and we've got this play we called it black pearl and it was a beautiful thing yeah and so and we we get tyreek to toss it to kelse and and Patrick goes in the end zone and although he almost stepped out of bounds and he should have been deeper.

Speaker 39 But

Speaker 94 one corner plays both of them.

Speaker 9 Like your brother, hold it.

Speaker 95 And your brother, I'm not going to talk to him.

Speaker 94 I'm not going to look at you.

Speaker 15 But your brother choked.

Speaker 9 Yo!

Speaker 39 So he got there, and it was

Speaker 68 not only that, so this is like in the first, second quarter, it ruined him the rest of the game.

Speaker 47 I wouldn't even want to be there.

Speaker 9 I didn't want to be there.

Speaker 64 I think Tyreek had 300 yards.

Speaker 96 This guy's got like the best arm ever.

Speaker 9 And this was like a five-yard, not even a five-yard, but he could have run it in.

Speaker 14 It was all bad, man.

Speaker 93 It was all bad. But he came back.

Speaker 64 Third times of charm, baby. That's right.
Came back. Third times of charm in the playoffs.

Speaker 24 We needed to survive in Philly.

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