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Speaker 1 How did Space Jam come into play for you?

Speaker 3 About nine people said, you know, Michael really wants you to be in Space Jam. which is like, I get a kick out of saying this all the time.

Speaker 4 I like to pimp Michael all the time, whatever I can, but

Speaker 3 Michael really wants you to be in Space Jam. And all you have to do is not.

Speaker 1 That's all you got to do.

Speaker 1 Because it just means, you know,

Speaker 5 I bet you Mike can find my phone number.

Speaker 1 Yeah, right.

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Speaker 1 We've got an incredible best of episode for you guys today. We're going to put together some of our favorite moments from our conversations with some of the biggest stars we've had on the podcast.

Speaker 1 You'll hear from Ben Affleck, Jason Sudekis, Brad Pitt, and EC Nash Betts, Will Farrell, Bill Murray, Scott Van Pelt, and more.

Speaker 1 Remember, we'll be back with new episodes of New Heights just in time for the NFL season on August 27th. You won't want to miss it.

Speaker 1 Our guest is the one and only Sandman, Adam San Luente, baby. Boys, I'm so happy to see both of you guys.
Before we get off of Happy Gilmore, though, I was, I'm actually curious.

Speaker 1 I'm not familiar with how the original thought process of the movie came about. Oh, okay, yeah.
And I'm a little, I'm pretty curious.

Speaker 1 Like, how, like, was it just you just messing around on a on a golf course and it kind of connecting the dots or what? It was, it was my dad, like I said, he liked golf.

Speaker 1 We used to go to the driving range a lot. And I had a great friend, Kyle McDonough, who ended up playing pro hockey.
A great hockey player. In New Hampshire, it's a big hockey town.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, hell yeah. Yeah.
So, so Kyle came out with me and my dad, and he didn't play much golf, but he was banging them. We were young, maybe ninth grade or something, something like that.

Speaker 1 And he was banging him. My father kept saying, man, you hockey players, there's something about your wrist or the way you turn or something like that.

Speaker 1 And I just was like, I think I was in college or, or finishing up college, or just maybe 23.

Speaker 1 And I, I thought, man, man, that'd be pretty funny to see a guy with a hockey mentality have such a big hit that he gets up, gets on the tour.

Speaker 1 And I remember calling my dad and telling my dad about it and going, what do you think? And he was like, it could be pretty good. We'll see.
You know, we'll see. We'll see.

Speaker 1 But me and my buddy Hurlihi, who I write all the movies with, we would write that and we'd call my dad and say, Does this make sense? And golf, do you when you put, what do you think?

Speaker 1 Like, and it's all in the hips and stuff like that. That was my dad.
I would say, oh my god, what is it? He said, It's all in the hips, baby.

Speaker 1 It's all in the hips, and that's why we wrote that shit, you know, chubs

Speaker 1 as football players. We got to leave with this.
How many football guys come up to you and talk about the water boy, man? I hear Boucher a lot. Yeah,

Speaker 1 I'm very proud that I got to be Bobby Boucher. I have

Speaker 1 met a lot of great NFL fellas who have talked to me about Bobby and Bobby's mama and foosball. Just foosball.
Just foosball. Making sure mama don't find out.
I'm playing foosball, that kind of shit.

Speaker 1 Yes, did you play? Did you play growing up? I played Pot Warner till

Speaker 1 12. I played till 12.

Speaker 1 I was a quarterback in Pot Warner. I was playing baseball, and then I was a pitcher, and I was 11.
And

Speaker 1 Ken Stillman, the coach of the team, came over and talked to my parents and said, Maybe Adam could be a quarterback. And my mother was like, Oh, Adam doesn't play football.

Speaker 1 And my father was like, Let him play because my father played football, actually. Okay.
And he was a linebacker.

Speaker 1 So then I got in there.

Speaker 1 I got on the team, played two years at Pop Warner, and it was amazing. So cool, man.
You told us about how Happy Gilmore got.

Speaker 1 How did you create a Creole Southern?

Speaker 1 Like, where did the

Speaker 1 inspiration? I'm not sure if you heard us. We were literally like, I don't know how he didn't win more awards for this.

Speaker 1 This was ridiculously.

Speaker 1 This is before I had seen Life is Beautiful, Roberto Benini. He did a great job with that.
He did very good music. He did.
He stepped it up for that shit.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, I wasn't getting Oscars. I never thought of that stuff when I was doing Boucher, but

Speaker 1 I couldn't believe it. It was like we had this idea.
A water boy gets picked on a lot.

Speaker 1 You know, a coach thinks he could be, you know, sees him throw a nasty hit and then says, maybe you should be on the team. That was kind of

Speaker 1 the idea. And we were like, let's, let's make him from the south.
Let's make him Cajun. And then we just went from there, man.
We just, I don't know how it happened.

Speaker 1 We just filled out a script like that. So good.
So good.

Speaker 1 It probably felt right as it came together too. You're just like, man, this is coming together so smooth.
Because it's start to finish. That thing is perfect.

Speaker 1 Oh, dude, I mean, we were so excited writing that. Thank thanks for all these compliments, guys.
Honestly, I love you. I appreciate it.
But, but so

Speaker 1 I remember with The Water Boy, we wanted

Speaker 1 that he had a very protective mama, and that, and that there was this movie, Carrie. It was a

Speaker 1 terrifying movie, and it was

Speaker 1 an over-protective mom who didn't want her daughter to be around anything too

Speaker 1 heavy.

Speaker 1 And anyways, so we kind of wrote a mom like that that's overprotective to Bobby. And so he had to sneak around and play his foosball.

Speaker 1 It was so good, man.

Speaker 1 That's right, sir. 92% is please welcome Mr.
Ben Affleck.

Speaker 1 What's up?

Speaker 7 That's a fucking introduction.

Speaker 1 We heard that you once got to run routes with Tom Brady. All right.
What was it like? What was that like? How many completions did we get? What were you running? What kind of routes are you running?

Speaker 7 I won't lie to you. I don't know if they have a name.

Speaker 7 I'm sure I disgraced every receiver that's ever run a route. But to this day,

Speaker 7 aside from the birth of my children, that was the greatest ever.

Speaker 7 I was like, dude, are you? He was like, I need someone to play catch with. Happened to be on vacation at the same place with him.
And he was like, you want to come down?

Speaker 1 And I i was like oh this was so this was legit this was as legit as it gets that you're getting helping tom get ready for the season like i don't know how much i was helping him i think it was like he was like i'm gonna blow this dude's mouth

Speaker 7 work and we literally got down there and first he's like you know i'm gonna he's like okay go out here turn around turn around

Speaker 1 and i'm like

Speaker 7 run as fast as i can turn around i fixed it look at him look he's been waiting 45 minutes you know

Speaker 7 guns the ball me i'm like i caught it because i was afraid he'd break in my nose more than anything else. And then after a few of those, he's like, all right, we'll put some hair on it.

Speaker 7 I was like, no, no, no, no. It's already, it's already playing fast.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 That was what I was about to ask you. That's what I was about to ask you.
Did he actually spin it? Like, he ripped you apart. He's taking a home now.

Speaker 7 You know what I found was that, like, in a way, you catch it out of self-defense. I didn't even think I was,

Speaker 7 you know, and I found myself with the football just to like

Speaker 7 fight or reflexes. But the greatest moment of that experience was he was like, after after we had played, he had me running around.

Speaker 7 He throw me the ball and it was amazing, right? It was like a, like, I felt like a 10-year-old kid. He's like, okay, come here.
And I get to him and he's like, it's the Super Bowl. Fourth quarter.

Speaker 7 We have 23 seconds. It's fourth and 18.
I love this.

Speaker 1 Tom knows what he's doing, man.

Speaker 7 He's like, just run.

Speaker 1 Dude, this is why he's the best. This is why he's the best.
This is his mindset, dude. He was amazing, dude.

Speaker 7 He goes, and just run straight. Don't turn around.
And I was like, he's like, I'm going to get you the ball in the end zone. I was like, don't turn around.
He was like, don't look back. So I am like,

Speaker 7 and I believed it. He told me, I was like, I'm in the Super Bowl.

Speaker 7 So he's like, look, look, calls it out.

Speaker 7 And I start running. I don't look back.
I'm sure to him it seemed like this. He's like, I've never seen somebody run in slow motion before.

Speaker 1 Like to me,

Speaker 7 fast as you can go.

Speaker 7 I'm like wondering when's this ball going to show up? And I look, I just feel it like right out in front of me. And it was a little far for me.
I think he was like, he probably adjusted back.

Speaker 7 And I reach out and I have to go all at the extend. I fucking catch it.

Speaker 7 I turn around like I won the fucking thing.

Speaker 7 He's running at me like

Speaker 7 it was incredible.

Speaker 1 I called everybody I knew.

Speaker 7 For two days, I was on the super.

Speaker 7 I think they thought I was lying to him.

Speaker 7 But it was like the nicest thing anyone's ever done for me. And I lived a full life of dreams, right? In that, whatever it was, hour of playing cash.

Speaker 1 You had a real life sandlot. You had a real life sandlot moment.
You were smalls. Dude, what I'm talking about.
Tell me the chip. Tell me the door.
Just put that glove up here.

Speaker 1 It's so good.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 7 I'm going to get it to you in the end zone. I mean, and it's like when he looked at it, it felt like this is exactly what he looks like when it really is the Super Bowl.
Well, you know what I mean?

Speaker 7 Like, and he's one of those guys going back to that thing. I was like, I've often wondered, because he seems so relaxed, like oddly relaxed.
I've often wondered if that's part of it.

Speaker 7 Like, just not, you know, when everyone else has that anxiety, because it's, you know, whatever, 20 seconds to go in the fourth quarter, if you can have that, like, calm and that awareness, I think it's a huge, huge advantage.

Speaker 7 There's a story, I don't know if it's true, about Joe Montana, that the Super Bowl, he threw the cash to White Clark.

Speaker 7 And the play before that, he got into the huddle and he was looking into the stands. And

Speaker 7 the team came back and they were like, what? And he goes, hey, look over there. Is that John Candy?

Speaker 1 And they're like,

Speaker 7 and there's a crowd of circles.

Speaker 7 And then they just like.

Speaker 7 turned back around but he was like looking over to be like oh shit that's john candy all right let's go like you know what i mean like he was all he was just casual and i feel like that always made sense if If you've ever met Joe Montana, that's a smooth son of a buck right there.

Speaker 1 He's a cool cat man.

Speaker 1 He's a laid-back dude. I believe it.

Speaker 1 Making his new heights debut. Please welcome.
It's the one and only little Dickie baby. Yes, sir.

Speaker 1 What is your welcome to the industry moment?

Speaker 8 Another story I've never told that just came into my head that's perfect for this moment.

Speaker 1 Oh my gosh.

Speaker 8 Celebrity basketball game.

Speaker 1 Ooh.

Speaker 1 I don't know where

Speaker 1 this moment is. Somewhere in L.A.

Speaker 8 and much earlier in my career than I deserved to be. Like,

Speaker 8 when I looked at the lineup, it was like, it was like Floyd Mayweather, Snoop Dogg, Chris Brown, like John Wall. It was like stacked.
And I had no mainstream. I had like a couple of viral.

Speaker 8 I don't know how I got in the game to the point where I actually put a lot of stock and import in this game that I got there an hour early to warm up because I literally thought like a way that I could like get ahead in this like industry faster will be be like scoring 30 points in this game and really dominant.

Speaker 8 It's like I literally went there because I was like, this is a big opportunity

Speaker 8 to like advance my career.

Speaker 3 This is my chance.

Speaker 8 And I am.

Speaker 1 I can somehow dunk on Snoop Dogg.

Speaker 8 And I've seen so many celeb games where I'm like, these guys suck, you know? And so I was excited to go there and really, you know, and a few things happened.

Speaker 8 One, I'm there warming up by myself and Chris Brown walks in. He completely comes in.
First time I ever saw Chris Brown. And so I'm like blown away by like just seeing him.

Speaker 8 He walks right up to me and he goes, You're a dope rapper. And I was like, And it was so early, Mike.
I would never expect him to know who I am.

Speaker 8 And like, to have like an icon in the music industry who has like countless, like, number, it's just like him saying that to me meant everything.

Speaker 8 That was the impetus of Freaky Friday us meeting there. That's step one.
That's like the least important part of the story.

Speaker 1 Then, okay, all right.

Speaker 8 Then we play, and the game starts. I'm not in the starting lineup, nowhere close.
It's like, you know, it's the people I named. My coach is John Wall.
The way he

Speaker 8 the way he, well, not not actually, because

Speaker 8 the way John Wall went about operating his team was he did five in, five out. So he had starting five, then he just complete subs.
Yeah. So I'm in the next five.

Speaker 8 He says, he tells me, grab Chris, like Chris Brown.

Speaker 1 Oh, no. So I

Speaker 8 go up to, by the way, every time Chris Brown touches the ball in this game.

Speaker 1 No, it's just like, ah, it's just like scream. It's like it's bizarre.
Like everyone going nuts.

Speaker 8 Like every time he hits the ball, it's like you know, when people boo and Philly when they come back, when Hardin gets the ball, it was like the opposite of that.

Speaker 8 So I'm told to get Chris Brown. So I walk up to Chris and I go, like, yo, I'm in for you.

Speaker 1 And he goes, I'm not coming out.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's awkward.

Speaker 8 And then there's 11 guys on the court.

Speaker 8 Everyone is like matched up. Like, I'm clearly the audio.
I look to John Wall.

Speaker 1 Can you help? For

Speaker 8 coach, like, and he goes, John Wall goes, like,

Speaker 1 and he

Speaker 8 brings me back over.

Speaker 8 First thing I say is, like, John, like, get a grip and like have some like authority on your team.

Speaker 1 It's just like humiliating to like send me out there and then pull me back in. It's like so emasculating.

Speaker 1 So good. And, and, and then

Speaker 8 they're playing, and then I get in like the next five or whatever.

Speaker 1 I get in the game.

Speaker 1 I get in the game. I get the ball.

Speaker 8 I drive aggressively. I go up.
I get to the rim. rim.
I get fouled so hard by Deontay Wilder,

Speaker 1 at the time, heavyweight champion of the world.

Speaker 1 Dude, like everyone went like,

Speaker 8 the whole gym went like, because I thought I really got hurt. I didn't hurt that.
I think the gym, I don't know, it didn't really hurt that much.

Speaker 1 I took it. In the moment,

Speaker 8 I get up, I miss two free throws, and then I play one more meaningless minute.

Speaker 8 And then I just didn't even, I like moved to the end of the bench and just chose not to even make myself available for the rest of the game.

Speaker 8 But that was a real, like, there was like several different moments in there that felt like, oh, like, welcome to the industry.

Speaker 8 That was like the first time I think I ever like, like, was on like Giddy images. You know what I mean? Where there was like, like, watermarked images of like me talking to Snoop.

Speaker 1 Like,

Speaker 1 that's so good, bro. That's amazing.

Speaker 1 Please welcome Bill Murray.

Speaker 1 Thank you.

Speaker 1 Baby. Who's your favorite, I don't know, actor or person you've worked with in the film industry? You did Space Champ with Michael Jordan?

Speaker 3 Well, he was probably the best

Speaker 3 shooting guard that I worked with.

Speaker 1 Larry, the best small forward.

Speaker 3 And

Speaker 1 actually, Larry was the best.

Speaker 3 He was in that movie too. He was the best small forward.

Speaker 1 So good.

Speaker 3 That was fun. That was a very fun movie.

Speaker 3 We played golf in between scenes. It was a lot of fun.

Speaker 1 I don't want to get too much into Space Jam, but it is is one of the childhood favorites of ours

Speaker 1 and so many others, man.

Speaker 1 How did Space Jam come into play for you?

Speaker 1 Were you just like, because you were so in the sports world as well, like your fandom and your ability to kind of dive into all these sports, did that play into

Speaker 1 getting the role?

Speaker 3 So I knew Ivan Reitman, who I'd made a couple of movies with already, Ghostbusters and Stripes and Meat Pulse, he was a producer. It was a Warner Brothers movie, I think.

Speaker 3 And they had to build a basketball court for Michael on the lot.

Speaker 3 And they built like a serious basketball court with a weight room. Yeah,

Speaker 3 and it was like the game.

Speaker 3 Like if you were an American basketball player, you had to suck your way into that game every night. And Michael would play after work when they were on location or on the set.

Speaker 3 in the studio.

Speaker 3 And it was like a real serious wood floor gym and the whole deal, and that was a real, like every, if you, no matter what team you played for, you had to get into that game because that was who was who and who wasn't.

Speaker 3 That's so cool.

Speaker 3 But they, I don't know, I just like to say that about nine people said, you know, Michael really wants you to be in Space Jam, which is like, I get a kick out of saying this all the time.

Speaker 4 I pimp Michael all the time, whatever I can, but

Speaker 3 Michael really wants you to be in Space Jam. And all you have to do is not.

Speaker 1 That's all you got to do is be

Speaker 1 because it just means, you know,

Speaker 3 I bet you Mike can find my phone phone number.

Speaker 1 Yeah, right.

Speaker 3 I bet you if he sets his mind to it, he could find my phone.

Speaker 1 Or he could find out where I live or even, you know, walk up on the street.

Speaker 1 Not a hard question.

Speaker 3 But basically, I know there are people like that in the world, and you'll meet them.

Speaker 3 They feel like they never want to be indebted to anybody for anything.

Speaker 3 They don't want to owe anybody anything. So they'll have their people sort of ask something.
Have you ever noticed this?

Speaker 1 Yes, of course.

Speaker 3 So they'll have someone else ask for you. Yeah, so I knew exactly day one, I knew exactly what was coming here.
I heard from everybody. I probably heard from like 13 different people.

Speaker 3 And the more people, the more I enjoyed it, because I knew it was like, that son of a bitch is just twisting, knowing he's got to ask me himself.

Speaker 1 But it was good.

Speaker 3 He finally did. God bless him.

Speaker 1 And it turns out. Did you go to the golf course? Where'd he find you?

Speaker 1 I don't really remember.

Speaker 3 I don't really remember, but it was good. I was glad I was there.
And I I contributed to that movie.

Speaker 1 You had to have gotten in at least one of the games. Oh, no.

Speaker 1 No, no.

Speaker 3 I mean, I don't think I may have just only shot a basket before the game. That game was like, I mean, they were emptying prisons to get into that game.

Speaker 3 They would never be allowed to play in the NBA that were playing in that game. There were just some amazing athletes

Speaker 3 in that game. And like the best high school players that try to show up there, and they'd just, Michael just kicked their ass.

Speaker 1 He'd just I love it.

Speaker 3 People would come in there and think a bad game, and Michael just murdered him. He was, he was a killer.

Speaker 1 So, we recently reviewed Roadhouse, the original Patrick Swayze film. Yes, there is a legend out there that

Speaker 1 you used to call the husband of Kelly Lynch, who plays Dr. Clay, anytime

Speaker 1 a particular scene came on with Patrick Swayze on the television.

Speaker 1 Is this rumor true?

Speaker 3 One of the hardest things I ever

Speaker 3 had to do

Speaker 3 was to call a friend.

Speaker 3 No one.

Speaker 3 And

Speaker 3 at a late hour.

Speaker 1 I mean, very, very late.

Speaker 3 And not without

Speaker 3 some

Speaker 3 back and forth, should I, shouldn't I? Should I, shouldn't I.

Speaker 3 and as a friend you had to do it I did not

Speaker 3 I did not identify myself but I just said

Speaker 1 hey

Speaker 3 as a friend

Speaker 3 I think you should probably turn on TBS right now

Speaker 3 Because

Speaker 3 that son of a bitch, Pat Swayze, is

Speaker 3 slamming to your wife

Speaker 3 Swayze Swayze, may you rest in peace, do a lot of wonderful things, a beloved guy, but that was wrong what he did

Speaker 1 dude. This is why you're the legendary.

Speaker 1 so good.

Speaker 1 Thank you for this gold, man.

Speaker 1 He's wrong.

Speaker 1 He's wrong.

Speaker 1 It's the goddamn Terminator. That's right, we got Arnold Twenty today.

Speaker 1 Woo!

Speaker 1 Wow. Fire up, baby.

Speaker 1 That was fantastic. That's kind of beautiful.
As long as Artie Artie approves me. And can I believe the baby oil?

Speaker 1 She's supposed to be oiled up when you introduce me.

Speaker 1 That was great. That was really fantastic.
I love the grandkids. I mean, she brings them over on the weekends on Saturday.

Speaker 1 And then, you know, I have, of course, the animals. Oh, it's easy to

Speaker 1 be granddaddy, right? So

Speaker 1 I say, kids, you want to help me feed the animals? I say, let's go and feed Schnelly, which is my pig. And the pig is now, I got it at the pig when it was like 16 pounds.

Speaker 1 Now it's like 100 pounds or whatever. I mean, I don't know what happened, but I think someone found it.
Bodybuilding. Someone felt

Speaker 1 bodybuilding. It's a powerbilling.

Speaker 1 So now they're feeding Schnelly and they teach them how to put it in his mouth and all of those kind of things. Then they go over to the stall with me and they bring out the

Speaker 1 miniature donkey, Lulu, and whiskey, the miniature pony, and then they feed them and they bring Apris over and feed them in order to. So how did you get into owning a miniature pony?

Speaker 1 Well, it's it's uh

Speaker 1 Heather gave it to me, the miniature pony. Oh, youather nice Heather?

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 the pony is actually Catherine's, but the donkey Heather gave me. Okay.
And so what happened was Catherine had this pony,

Speaker 1 and then all of a sudden, when she started getting interested in boys,

Speaker 1 all of a sudden the animals

Speaker 1 were out. Yeah.
She didn't pay any attention. So I saw this pony down at the stall below where I live, in some public stall, and with other horses and miniature horses and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 And so I said, Well, I'm going to bring it up to my house because it's stupid to have this miniature pony down there and doesn't get any attention.

Speaker 1 I want to just have it walk around in the house, come into the house, and stuff like that.

Speaker 1 Of course, so anyway, so that's what I did. I had this pony and that's just it walked around the house and I fed it and it was always fun.
And then Heather said,

Speaker 1 she needs a companion. So then Heather got me the

Speaker 1 miniature donkey. And so now I have Lulu and whiskey.
So the whiskey is the pony and the donkey is Lulu. And so they hang.
But the question really is, so when you should see that,

Speaker 1 when they all come in in the morning, I mean it's like the donkey is in there, the pony is in there, the pig is in there begging for food, the three dogs are in there, everyone is sitting there on the floor and is waiting for the cookies because we are making these oatmeal cookies that have no sugar in it.

Speaker 1 It's just like honey and some

Speaker 1 oatmeal is in there and a few things like that. So

Speaker 1 very, very healthy.

Speaker 1 And so we feed the animals and they just sit there and they do anything you ask them to do if they get a cookie. Thank you.

Speaker 1 Or yeah, with food, as you know, with animals, with food, you can really can't. It's a little bit more right there.

Speaker 1 Make them do anything. So, anyway, when Catherine comes over with her kids and they play with the animals like for hours, they just love it.
They just love it. And can I pick up cherry?

Speaker 1 Which is the little dog that I have. And so then Lila picks up cherry.
And then Eloise picks up Cherry. And then I want to hold Cherry.
Can I sit on a donkey? Yeah,

Speaker 1 of course you can sit on Lulu. Then I put it on Lulu.
And this is how it goes.

Speaker 1 They're having a great time. That sounds like a great time.
Love you. Talk about it, man.
You can tell it's fun. All right, last question.

Speaker 1 If you were to reboot one of your movies and cast each of us in a role, what movie and who do you think we'd play? Oh, I would definitely do Conan the Barbarian. Imagine how real this is.

Speaker 1 I mean, you don't have to change anything.

Speaker 1 All you have to do is go on a. Go my hair out.
Go on a. No, you can put a wig on it.

Speaker 1 That was a wig.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 there was a partial wig. Oh, okay.
Yeah, partial wig.

Speaker 1 But I mean, the thing is that they had also had short hairs, short hair in those days. You don't have to do the long hair thing.
But I mean, that would be fantastic.

Speaker 1 All you have to do is just learn how to horseback ride. And maybe you guys know how to horseback ride.
I've been bucked off every horse I've ever been on right now.

Speaker 1 That is the key thing, is to really get good in horseback riding. Okay.
Because when you do the sword fighting on a horse,

Speaker 1 you really cannot pay much attention to the horse. The horse goes around the circle and does its thing, but you have to pay attention to the sword not to get whacked.

Speaker 1 So I mean so that's that's the thing.

Speaker 1 So I think if you take sword fighting lessons, I took three years sword fighting lessons and three years horseback riding lessons and with all kinds of weaponry and the martial arts and all this stuff.

Speaker 1 And it really was helpful to be that prepared when I did a movie. But that's the key thing.
So if you do that, I mean imagine you guys

Speaker 1 with the armor

Speaker 1 with the big hammer and with the big battles and all that stuff. And riding there into the village and just wiping out everyone.
Crush your enemies.

Speaker 1 See them riven before you and hear the lamentation of their women.

Speaker 1 He's the two-time winner of People's Sexiest Man. He's robbed probably about 50 times.
Brad Pitt! That's right, baby.

Speaker 1 I love the Eagles-Chiefs rivalry. You know, I'm a Chiefs.
I'm a Missouri boy. I'm an Azari boy.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 We got you this year, dog. We got you this year, man.
I got you, man.

Speaker 1 We don't. I'll let you down.
I'll let you down in the hard work, man.

Speaker 1 That's what I mean about life. You know, life, life throws these struggles your way.
Sometimes everything's falling into place and

Speaker 1 everything goes quiet and it's perfection. It's sublime.
And other days

Speaker 1 or other periods, life throws these struggles at you, and it's how you deal with those and come back from those, I think, that are what makes sports movies so special. But

Speaker 1 I do have a confession. You know, I'm friends with Bradley Cooper.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 He's your Prime Eagles fan. That's right.
And I'm not saying

Speaker 1 that I have the power

Speaker 1 to

Speaker 1 affect a game in any way.

Speaker 1 I don't adhere to that kind of hubris. But I did say last year, after the Eagles went out,

Speaker 1 Chiefs were on their way to another victory.

Speaker 1 And he was getting an award for the Maestro, still probably one of the best movies in this decade. And I was giving him this award.
And he's been nominated like 18 times for Oscars.

Speaker 1 And I closed with, now, did you guys hear this one? No.

Speaker 1 No. No, no, no, dude.
I'm talked into it. At the Santa Barbara Film Awards, I closed with, listen, he's been nominated the 19th, 100th time.
You know, if he doesn't get it, it's okay. He's used to it.

Speaker 1 He's a Philadelphia Eagles fan.

Speaker 1 That laid the groundwork right there.

Speaker 1 I think he was happy this year. No doubt.

Speaker 6 Oh, you already know.

Speaker 1 We didn't talk for two months. Did he hit you up about it? Did he, after the Super Bowl, did he shoot you and text? No,

Speaker 1 he gracefully let me hurt my

Speaker 1 pro mood. He just let it sit there and burn.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's too funny, man. You're known for constantly eating on the screen.
Best food you've ever ate on camera damn i don't know how i get this like people eat in life yeah right

Speaker 1 like i think it was in oceans and i figured he's always wading around he's he's like the consigliaria of the group and he's always doing this and doing this and he's got to eat on the run that's all this that's that's where this came from there was like thought behind it that's too funny and now anytime i eat in a film like i guess i'm a bit of a grazer but yes okay so that's my

Speaker 1 everything i've done that's that's that's what I'm known for.

Speaker 1 The best, I had an ice cream sundae. I remember an ice cream sundae, big parfait thing on.

Speaker 1 I'll tell you a story.

Speaker 1 I haven't thought about this for years. One of my first movies, I'm doing this little independent film.
We're shooting this little tiny cafe.

Speaker 1 It's full of the crew, so there's about 60 people in there. It's hot, you can't breathe.

Speaker 1 And my character hadn't eaten for days, and he gets his big plate of beans, first plate of beans and bacon. And I was all like method.
You know, I was like, I'm going to do this right.

Speaker 1 I'm going to, I'm going to,

Speaker 1 and I just, and I power, you know, I just powered down this plate of beans, take two, do the same thing, take three, I do the same thing.

Speaker 1 Take four, I do the same thing.

Speaker 1 Something hit me. Oh, I know exactly what hit you.
It was all about what hit you.

Speaker 1 And there was nothing I could do. I was stuck in this chair

Speaker 1 and

Speaker 1 nature took its course.

Speaker 1 And and then there was nothing i went oh great i got away i got away with that one and then suddenly the entire crew the most diabolical something something descended on the crew in the whole room and they

Speaker 1 fleed the cafe fleed

Speaker 1 so

Speaker 1 hey the confession you've heard first right

Speaker 1 hey that was great and ever since then i've uh

Speaker 1 i paced myself beans to do it to you baby That's right. You should be proud of you.
Hey, you clear room. You clear room.
That's a

Speaker 1 prime offensive lineman. You already know.
That's a badge of honor.

Speaker 1 We had,

Speaker 1 oh, my gosh, Green,

Speaker 1 all-time SAC leader, one of the, up there with the Steelers for a long time.

Speaker 1 And then he was coaching the Packers, Kevin Green.

Speaker 1 He came in. He was coaching the D-line.
He came into the O-line room to try and give us tips on how to block D-linem.

Speaker 1 He came in there.

Speaker 1 Guys are farting non-stop.

Speaker 1 He was like, You guys are, oh, Lyman suck. I'm out of here.
He just left the room.

Speaker 1 It was like two sliders.

Speaker 1 We ask athletes this question all the time, but what was your welcome to Hollywood moment? Welcome to Hollywood moment. Okay, I'll tell you my welcome to Hollywood moment.

Speaker 1 I was, I got my first little thing, it was on a like a little soap opera, and they, and my picture was in a like USA Today.

Speaker 1 Okay. And this was a big deal, Sent to my mom and dad.
Look, you know, look, ma, I made it. And it was with a friend.
There was a girl he was really attracted to, a couple of girls.

Speaker 1 And we went over to their apartment and we went through the kitchen, the back door, and I looked down the litter box and there was that picture with a big cat turd on it. Oh!

Speaker 1 Big pitch thing.

Speaker 1 Cat turtle.

Speaker 6 That sums it up.

Speaker 1 That's right there. Welcome to Hollywood.
And I've never forgotten that.

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Speaker 1 The executive producer and director of Apple TV's hit show Severance, please welcome to New Heights, Mr. Ben Steele.

Speaker 1 Thank you. Thank you.
We're going to talk about your first bit of cinematic excellence, which maybe it's not, but it's definitely the one that sticks with us the most.

Speaker 1 And we quote nonstop, which is heavyweights. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And did you know, first of all, before I said the movie, did you know i was going to say heavyweights i had seen i think i saw you had like a percuss power show oh yeah

Speaker 1 shout out to bread beef and i and i and i'd heard some you know rumblings that that you guys were into it which was pretty oh into it it was my life it was listen i was a heavyweight growing up jason he didn't get fat until he went to office we switched places we switched places growing up so jason's more newly founded into it but so seriously you were dealing with weight issues as well um i think chubby i think i was just yeah i was dealing with my my love for uh honey buns i think that's what i was kind of dealing with with more.

Speaker 1 But no, I saw heavyweights and was like, oh, man, Camp Hope is like, if there's a camp out there like that, I want to go to it. Just kids that can be fat together and hide candy in their beds.
And

Speaker 1 the kids that never like really lived up to the excellence of their brother and just the expectations that their parents set for themselves. Yeah.
Yeah. I mean,

Speaker 1 are you kidding the blob?

Speaker 1 Was it go-kart?

Speaker 1 Like, that was everything a kid wanted to do it.

Speaker 10 It was sort of, yeah, like a dream camp, but then, you know, this guy comes in who's never really dealt with children before.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 This is one of the funniest intros.

Speaker 10 It was really fun to do. We had a great time.
I mean, I remember the summer shooting the movie very well. We shot it down in near Asheville, North Carolina.

Speaker 10 I'm still buddies with the guy who was my trainer when I was doing

Speaker 10 the movie, Mickey Marino.

Speaker 1 Shout out to Mickey. I love you,

Speaker 10 who's down in East Hendersonville.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was just, but like, yeah, today, first of all, the fact that that was a Disney movie. is it is it is kind of crazy.
Yeah, that that was I chuckle at it every time I see Disney across the top.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's a it's an edgy Disney movie for sure.

Speaker 10 It's not Little Mermaid, you know, it's it's and and I don't even think they were aware of it at the time. It was a different time, right? It was pre uh social media.

Speaker 10 It was, yeah, I think there was less of a sort of a moment-to-moment awareness of you know, if you're doing something right or wrong and all that. So, it was, you know, and Judd Apatau

Speaker 10 was producing it. Judd and I were friends and had been working together on a show we had done and had gotten canceled.
And I had gone and directed a movie, my first movie.

Speaker 10 And he said, hey, we're going to go down. Steve Brill is the director, really funny guy.
We're going to go down to Asheville and do this fun, you know, this camp comedy.

Speaker 10 You could play this like mean guy who, you know, is mean to these kids who are overweight.

Speaker 6 And

Speaker 10 it seemed fun and funny.

Speaker 10 I'm in.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's right there.

Speaker 10 And it was like, and and it happens to be Disney, whatever. And I think they went off and they made the movie.
And Disney looked at it and was like,

Speaker 10 this isn't quite, you know, this is

Speaker 1 down the middle for the Disney brand.

Speaker 10 And they kind of put it out there or whatever. And then that was it.
You must have seen it on video, right? Oh, 100%. Years after it came out or something.
Yeah, right.

Speaker 1 Because it's 30 years old. Exactly.

Speaker 10 Yeah. But then it's happened.

Speaker 1 I saw it later in the 90s for sure.

Speaker 10 But yeah, it never would have gotten made today.

Speaker 1 Why do you say that? I think just because

Speaker 10 the character is being so mean to these kids who are dealing with weight issues that I don't think

Speaker 10 that's getting off the drawing board.

Speaker 1 I understand, but I feel like the movie also inspired more people that were overweight.

Speaker 1 Like it really ends up being something that most of the people that I knew that were overweight or it was like a healthy relationship with that at the end of the day.

Speaker 1 I do agree that Tony was not the nicest to the kids.

Speaker 10 No, I think Tony is dealing with his own weight issues.

Speaker 1 Oh, for sure. That's very clear.

Speaker 10 And

Speaker 10 his own feelings towards his parents and also that he's a kid who never

Speaker 10 interacted with other kids. And he wants to be famous.
And

Speaker 10 I feel for Tony. I feel like he's the most sympathetic character in the world.

Speaker 1 Where did Tony come? Like, where did you find him? Is there any inspiration?

Speaker 10 There was a little bit of Tony Robbins in there. Okay.

Speaker 1 Tony Robbins, the motivational guy,

Speaker 10 just in terms of the voice and how he talks.

Speaker 10 And his kind of weird sort of like, he, you know, Tony Robbins had this thing where he could sort of like, yeah, he could kind of like hypnotize you with his eyes.

Speaker 10 And I don't know, man. And then we just sort of like played around.
And it's funny, like, cause I look back at clips, I saw a clip like behind the scenes on it.

Speaker 10 And I was like, God, we were so young back then, too. Just like kind of just doing it, you know what I mean? And just kind of going for it.
And you don't really think about it that much.

Speaker 10 And the kids were so much fun. And it was, you know, kind of like every day we were just in my folks were in it playing my parents.
So

Speaker 10 we had, we had just had the best time.

Speaker 1 Let somebody sign you checks.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. don't let it.
Best advice I ever got.

Speaker 1 So I guess how much of that movie was of Tony was being scripted and how much of that is you off the cuff? Just ripping it. Yeah.

Speaker 10 I don't remember. I think like we were, we were improvising all the time.

Speaker 10 It's sort of, I feel like there were some improv moments there.

Speaker 10 I think like that little moment where

Speaker 10 Tony goes and talks to himself when he's weighing the kids.

Speaker 1 So he brought this up. It's my favorite scene in the movie.
He's asking this question. How are you doing, How are you doing with it, Tony? Bad? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, everything's falling down around me. There's nothing I can do about it.
I'm sorry, I don't want to do your best.

Speaker 1 Yeah, everything's falling down around me. There's nothing I can do about it.

Speaker 1 Well, you know,

Speaker 1 whose fault is it?

Speaker 1 It's not my fault. It's their fault.
That's right. It's their fault.
It's their fault. You have failed.
You were failing.

Speaker 10 Dude, the thing that's kind of funny to me about that scene is it was improvised.

Speaker 10 But, you know, if you've ever been in therapy or gone to therapy, that's, you know, a lot of people talk about talking to your inner child

Speaker 10 and finding your inner child and connecting with your inner child. And over the years, I have

Speaker 10 been in a therapy session where the therapist says, like, you should go, like, let's talk to your inner child. And I literally feel like I'm just doing a scene from Heavyweight's Island Therapy.

Speaker 10 So I always feel like it's just, this is kind of silly because I've literally done this in a movie where it actually made sense that Tony was able to talk himself into understanding that he is not the the problem.

Speaker 10 They are the problem.

Speaker 1 And he helped himself.

Speaker 10 So in a way, it's a very healthy connection that he's having, you know, with himself.

Speaker 1 100%. 100%.
Maybe not with the kids, but

Speaker 10 no. And I think, you know, the kids also, like, you know, let's face it, the kids were cheating.

Speaker 1 They should have been following the rules.

Speaker 1 Right?

Speaker 1 They wanted to re-evaluate this movie.

Speaker 1 They were the problem. They were the ones hiding kids.
Come on. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You go to a camp where you want to lose weight. You got to play by the rules, right?

Speaker 10 It's like you guys show up at training camp right if you're not going to put the work in you need right nobody's going to be able to force you to do it right you got to have the mindset yeah i definitely go to chick-fil-a during camp though i'm not gonna lie

Speaker 1 92

Speaker 1 is here oh my god

Speaker 1 so epic best intro best intro ever best intro ever i've been just so curious about this when did you become a dj the video of you djing at the fret party might be one of my favorite.

Speaker 1 You've now inspired me to want to become a DJ and do exactly what you made that shit look so fucking fun.

Speaker 1 I don't know if you want a reveal peek behind the curtain or not, but

Speaker 1 I don't know how to DJ.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I was just all set up by my son and he was like, dad, can you come? It's parents' weekend. Can you come by the fraternity house?

Speaker 1 And I'll just set it it up and you just have to twist knobs and pretend like to push buttons yeah so i just acted the part uh but i

Speaker 1 no look at that's insane that's insane i i i still i still forget that people have uh cameras attached to their phones i i don't know if you guys ever feel that way but i'm like i still sometimes I'm like so good that the fact that you could just turn that switch off though man not not care about it that's the best that's the best part.

Speaker 1 I sent that to everybody that I knew.

Speaker 1 I shut it up for 15 minutes, and then I went to the football game. I didn't think twice about it.
And then Monday, it like blows up, and I'm thinking, what? Wait, what? Oh, right.

Speaker 1 All these kids were filming it. Anyway, so good.
It's just, it's fun to just kind of,

Speaker 1 I just love kind of doing those.

Speaker 1 kind of out-of-the-box things just to just to mingle with people and and uh well we love it when you do it too big dog Yeah, for sure. Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 1 So, something we do on the show is answer voicemails from our fans, and we've asked them to call in asking for relationship advice because who doesn't want to hear relationship advice from a couple of knuckleheads?

Speaker 1 Would you like to help us on these?

Speaker 1 Oh, sure. You want to jump in? Let's do it, man.

Speaker 1 Here's the thing: you could answer some of these questions as one of one of your characters, maybe?

Speaker 1 Okay,

Speaker 1 yes. Oh, I'm so excited, Brandon, Brandon, uh-oh, Brandon.

Speaker 11 Hey, Travis. Hey, Jason.
Big Chief fan. Three Pete coming.
Just wanted to know your advice for a first date when you should know those red flags and when to look for the green flags. Go, Chief.

Speaker 1 Red flags, green flags.

Speaker 1 When to look for the red flags, when to look for the green flags?

Speaker 1 Let's see. Ricky Bobby

Speaker 1 would say,

Speaker 1 look, i i i don't know anything about red flag or green flag uh you just gotta you just gotta get yourself into a position to look for the checkered flag

Speaker 1 because

Speaker 1 i mean there's only one thing you need to worry about because i mean if you ain't first you're last

Speaker 1 i would just tell that young lady look for the checkered flag

Speaker 1 you gotta you gotta find your way to the the finish line, guys. I don't know if that's good advice or bad.
It sounds like bad advice.

Speaker 1 I think it's kind of metaphorically, it makes sense. You gotta find your way to the finish line.
Yeah, you know, I loved it, man. That shit was fucking gold.
That was so good. So good.

Speaker 1 That couldn't have gone any better. All right, here we go.
Next one. What do we got?

Speaker 11 All right, Jason and Travis.

Speaker 11 So, what do I do

Speaker 11 whenever I bought this girl ticket to a concert for Christmas?

Speaker 11 and

Speaker 11 she dumped me the week before.

Speaker 1 Now her best friend wants to go with me.

Speaker 11 Do I take her or no?

Speaker 1 Do you take the best friend after the tickets you bought for your girlfriend? She dumped you. Wait, I want to make sure I understand.
Do you take the best friend of the girl? Yes.

Speaker 1 Yes. So the girlfriend dumped him and now the best friend wants to go with.

Speaker 1 Well, Ron Burgery would say, of course you take the best friend

Speaker 1 because you teach that young lady a lesson.

Speaker 1 You're not going to be some horse's ass.

Speaker 1 You've spent $1,200 going to,

Speaker 1 I don't know, whatever concert, whatever music you listen to nowadays. I don't know if it's Kaja Gugu or Duran Duran or whatever it is, but

Speaker 1 you send a signal to that young lady that you're not messing around.

Speaker 1 You

Speaker 1 you take photos of you and the best friend making out and send it back to the to the old girlfriend and say that's how i do it

Speaker 1 that's how you roll right there baby that was

Speaker 1 so good that's why you're the greatest of all time

Speaker 1 goodness miss niece

Speaker 1 When you were with Mama Kelse, was that your first Chiefs game you'd ever been to?

Speaker 12 Very first, but But, wait, no. Let me take that line back because I saw y'all play against each other.

Speaker 1 You were at the Super Bowl?

Speaker 12 I was at that game.

Speaker 1 I saw the Super Bowl. Yeah, okay.

Speaker 12 I saw you guys play against each other. Matter of fact, I had to hook up that chip.
So I walked out on the field.

Speaker 1 I walked out on the field.

Speaker 1 Uh-huh.

Speaker 12 And my sister told me, she said, I don't care what you do, you put on an all-green outfit and you represent me.

Speaker 1 And so, so you were Eagles?

Speaker 1 I had on my green sweatsuit.

Speaker 1 I was up there doing this. Fly, Eagles, fly.

Speaker 12 I had my green sweatsuit on. Me, JB, my son, we all showed up.
Yeah. And yeah, so I got to see you both play together in that game.

Speaker 1 And then we like to not think about the game.

Speaker 12 Baby, I've done some roles, and I'm like, God, I wish it would go away.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 then we all came to see Travis.

Speaker 12 And let me tell you something. Travis is so we go to the game, right, out here in LA, and he was just trying to act like he was so professional as a football player.

Speaker 12 He's like, you know, I don't know if, you know, I'm a, you know, if I'm going to take pictures and stuff because I'm so focused.

Speaker 1 I'm like, okay.

Speaker 12 Then he came out there with that stupid mustache.

Speaker 12 trying to, you know, he was all on the field, and all his boys was like, Yo, nigga, your girl, right there, nigga, your girl right there. He gonna look over.
He was like,

Speaker 1 I said,

Speaker 12 I respect your process. I'm just giving you a heart.

Speaker 1 Oh, I love it. I love it too.

Speaker 12 I totally respect your process. You know what I mean? I appreciate it.
You gotta stay in the zone.

Speaker 1 And you gotta do what the people who paying you want you to do. So I'm not tripping about that.
I was more offended at the Mustang.

Speaker 1 It's gone now. It's gone now.

Speaker 12 I see. You finally back to looking decent.

Speaker 1 Exactly. Exactly.
That was, I was, you never know. I might have just been, you know, having that look for another role or something.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 Hollywood over here. All right, so when you when you were at the game with mom, what was it like? Yeah, you saw Mama Kelsey at the game, too.
Do you like watching football games? I do.

Speaker 12 It was so much fun. She was lovely.
She had her homegirl with her. And we all took pictures together.
And then, you know, you run with a great group of guys.

Speaker 1 You know,

Speaker 1 I appreciate that.

Speaker 12 And they all came and checked on us. You good.

Speaker 1 You need this. You need that.

Speaker 12 Then we went over to your podcast, had a suite.

Speaker 1 Oh, nice.

Speaker 12 We got our podcast swag.

Speaker 1 Oh, no.

Speaker 1 From over there.

Speaker 12 Oh, yeah. Everybody treated us.
So that was that was Mama Kelsey. She said, we're going over to the, come on.

Speaker 1 Come on.

Speaker 1 In front of the family.

Speaker 12 We went over there with her. Yes, and got us some swag and all the good things.
So everybody really took such good care of us. We had great seats.
Thank you.

Speaker 1 Always, you know it. You know it.

Speaker 12 And it was, yeah, it was a really good time. I mean, I would do it again for sure.

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Speaker 1 Holy smoke. We already talked about you playing basketball.

Speaker 1 Talked about SNL and hosts and stuff.

Speaker 1 Who's better in their respective fields? Are you better as a basketball player or is LeBron better as an SNL host?

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 You both played. You played in the All-Star game with him.
He played on SNL with you. Yeah.

Speaker 6 Look, as an SNL host, he's a hell of a basketball player.

Speaker 1 Bron.

Speaker 1 No, I love that dude. I mean,

Speaker 1 we need you and LeBron one-on-one in the basketball court, and then we need you one-on-one on the SNL stage.

Speaker 1 In Brown Stage, there is a sketch where

Speaker 6 we did characters that Bill and I did a couple times where I play like a stage hand who is just kind of a dick to people.

Speaker 6 We did it to Julie Louis Dreyfus, did it with Paul Rudd, and we did it with LeBron. And I challenged him to one-on-one in the sketch.

Speaker 1 And in rehearsal.

Speaker 6 In rehearsal,

Speaker 6 I did go by him and then went up and he didn't know I was going to do a reverse layup. And I did score on him

Speaker 1 on an eight-foot goal. And he was actually trying to like.
Yeah, he was 100%.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, he was definitely on the bottom.

Speaker 1 You can't turn that that off.

Speaker 1 You can't turn that off.

Speaker 6 And it was funny because Don Roy King, who was our director at the time, who I just saw at the 50th, came up and literally brought it up. He goes, if you ever need someone to

Speaker 6 vouch for this, I know it happened.

Speaker 1 I was like, thank you. So here it is.

Speaker 6 It kind of sucks to be the one telling this, you know, keeping this

Speaker 1 apocryphal story alive.

Speaker 6 You know, I'd prefer it to be someone else, but

Speaker 1 us two Knuckleheads.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we'll keep spreading this. We'll spread it.
We'll spread it.

Speaker 1 He's going to catch some legs. He was, I mean, he went for it.

Speaker 8 I can't believe he hadn't come back to do it again.

Speaker 1 He was so good, man. He was so good.
He was so good. I had to do it.
The solid gold dancer. Come on.
Come on now. It was great.
The perfect and Maverick, Maverick, badass.

Speaker 6 I remember Maverick sitting at the host dinner on Tuesday night, you know, when you go out with Lauren and everything. Maverick sat next to Lauren and just was just grilling him the whole time.

Speaker 6 The whole time. And I was like, I remember sitting across from him.

Speaker 1 I was a child in like a baby seat.

Speaker 1 I didn't say anything to any of us.

Speaker 6 it was like it was like it was like you know michael corleone talking to don corleone it was like fantastic i was like i was like lebron is i didn't you know i didn't know who he was at that point i was like lebron's so lucky to have this dude this guy's got his buddy's back like big time and asking lauren these questions and lauren was so fascinated by it was it was great it was just like watching you know an icon and icon to be just kind of like you know just just yeah it was he was just a curious smart dude

Speaker 1 yeah those guys good on him you know just a bunch of cleveland guys yeah that's all um

Speaker 1 How much would you have, would your life have changed if you would have been insected into the Blue Man group? I had a hunch.

Speaker 6 I don't know.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 everything, you know?

Speaker 1 Yeah, so, I mean, I was obsessed with that show.

Speaker 6 And, and, and I, I, like, I loved it. It was the opportunity I felt is, oh, this would be the only chance I'll ever get to play music in front of people.
Um,

Speaker 6 and, and I wasn't a good enough drummer. I love the show.
I think it's so funny. I think it's so brilliant.
And I think it's so like subversive. I mean, it's all these things.

Speaker 6 You know, they, they just closed the show recently in New York, which is where I ended up. You know, I auditioned in Vegas and they got flown out there.
Right. This was August of 2001.

Speaker 6 So this is right before

Speaker 6 9-11. And, and it was, um,

Speaker 6 and I had dudes, buddies of mine that were in Blue Man Group in Vegas because they took a lot of our improv classes. They, so I got to know them.

Speaker 6 Our shows hung out a lot, like both, you know, off stage and like, you know, at each other's houses. You know, I got it, and, and,

Speaker 6 it was, um, it was an amazing, amazing time because we were this different kind of show

Speaker 6 that was sort of finding its way in, in, in Vegas, um, like the ones that interacted with the audience and not just, you know, showgirls or, or again, icons, uh, or, or magic.

Speaker 6 It was like this, this weird kind of thing. I remember so many, a handful of them when I was really, it would sort of take me aside and be like, do you really want to do this?

Speaker 1 Like, like, you're really good at talking. Like, it's kind of your thing.

Speaker 1 And I was like, yeah, no, I don't care. I want to do this.

Speaker 6 I think it's so neat. And yeah, but it would be, I mean, gosh, I wouldn't, I mean, I wouldn't have my kids.

Speaker 1 I wouldn't,

Speaker 1 you know, there's a whole bunch of stuff. Yeah.

Speaker 6 It'd be different. I'd have, I'd be, every time I blow my nose, blue stuff would come out.

Speaker 1 My eyebookers would be blue.

Speaker 6 You know, like, yeah,

Speaker 6 who knows? I'd be a much better drummer than I am. Dave.
You know, my rudiments would be solid.

Speaker 1 Well, did you have to paint yourself for the audition?

Speaker 6 Not for the, for when you, when there's got to be a pig.

Speaker 1 I wish there's got to be a pig. There's no way.
There isn't. And here's.
You dressed up like that and didn't get a pig. I know.

Speaker 1 But But

Speaker 1 when you wear all the same color, like

Speaker 1 three iPhones.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, we had a disposable camera because when you, they, they put you up in this like dorm.

Speaker 6 It was on like 13th Street, and it was all these like like-minded, like, you know, all of us were like six foot one white guys.

Speaker 6 And the majority of, like, if there was 10 of us, I would say.

Speaker 6 nine of them were you know musicians first or eight of them were musicians first and and uh I was more of an actor with like like and I had been literally practicing on like a drum pad during intermissions at my second city show or in between shows, driving my castmates crazy, I'm sure.

Speaker 6 And, uh, and yet everybody had this like fun spirit. And we're all in New York flying in from other places.

Speaker 6 And we, I remember we bought a disposable camera because we got bald and blue, as they say it. You know, they do a bald cap and the, and the whole thing, and the, the cobalt blue.

Speaker 6 And, and so, somewhere, I don't know what happened to that disposable camera because you got cut like after three days, five days, seven days.

Speaker 6 I imagine it's like, you know, being in a combine or like in a camp.

Speaker 1 American Idol. It really was.

Speaker 6 And I got cut after three days. And they were like, if he, he could be a blue man if he worked on his drumming.
And then I go home, kind of defeated.

Speaker 6 And then, you know, a few weeks, you know, later, you know, 9-11. And then it was like, then that sort of like rattled us all.
And like, okay, what do you love?

Speaker 6 What do you, what do you really want to do? And it was stick with Second City at that point. And so I never, never auditioned again.

Speaker 6 But, but there's, yeah, there's a camera out there, but I know when I saw myself in the mirror, I looked at myself and no bullshit. I'm not even, this isn't even like humility.

Speaker 6 I was like, I look like a blue peanut MM.

Speaker 1 You couldn't see my cheekbones.

Speaker 1 You couldn't like my feature, any features that I have on my face just got washed out.

Speaker 6 And I just look like a, like, all the dudes that I was friends with all look like male models. And I was like, oh, I think maybe this, I thought that if I wore this, I'd look as cool as they do.

Speaker 6 It's like, no, Jace, they look like that out of the makeup.

Speaker 6 It looked like an upside-down blue peanut MM.

Speaker 1 It was horrible.

Speaker 6 So, yeah.

Speaker 1 He's an eight-time Sports Emmy nominee and the voice of the first two days of the masters please welcome mr scott van pelt

Speaker 1 yeah baby thank you you tweeted this at the new heights account please elaborate how close did you or mark schlareth come to shitting your pants on air okay

Speaker 1 so

Speaker 1 all right let's just say

Speaker 1 Mark Schlareth, shout to Stink, my guy. Yes, Stink.
I taught him how to tie his tie.

Speaker 1 It should have been a Sports commercial. I taught him how to get that great dimple in the middle of his tie.
And he, to this day, we love laughing about that. But

Speaker 1 this was a story. Show me a man who says he has to shit his pants, I'll show you a liar.

Speaker 1 Has it happened on air? I explained. Mark Schlareth is familiar with it.
So there was a day where I was having a rough day.

Speaker 1 I had a little bubble, a little gurgle in the belly, a little bad tummy.

Speaker 1 And I'm said to Stink, buddy,

Speaker 1 there's a decent chance that while we're sitting out here, I might ship my pants.

Speaker 1 And Stink says to me, Oh, it's fine, it's fine. You just need to put some leaves in the gutter.
I'm like, Excuse me?

Speaker 1 You don't know leaves in the gutter? I'm like, What's leaves in the gutter? He's like, You just take a big giant ball of toilet paper and you ball it up and you put it in your ass crack.

Speaker 1 And then while you're sitting, and then while you're sitting there, you know, in your boxers, you just, you got, it's basically like a, like a diaper of sorts. It's making a pants.

Speaker 1 Because I wasn't going to full-on shit my pants. It was going to be just a shark kind of a moment.
Just that, is this a fart? Oh, it's hot. No, that wasn't a fart.
And so I

Speaker 1 had leaves in the gutter. And then that night, this gets better.

Speaker 1 We were doing, he's there to do analysis on, say, the Thursday night game. For argument's sake, it's the Steelers and the Bengals.
I don't remember.

Speaker 1 But I said, because a lot of what we do are inside jokes. I said, you know, Stink tonight, the Steelers' defense, man,

Speaker 1 they really

Speaker 1 bottled up that run for the Bengals like leaves in the gutter.

Speaker 1 And Stink barely can get through the segment because I'm talking about the balled-up toilet paper in my butt crack that he's sharing with me.

Speaker 1 And I'm happy to say I did not need the leaves in the gutter.

Speaker 5 But, fellas,

Speaker 1 maybe ladies, when in doubt, if you need to go leaves in the gutter, there's a pro tip from Mark Schleriff to me, to you.

Speaker 1 And that's the story of how Scott Van Pelt almost shit his pants on TV.

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