Will Ferrell on Down Bad Buddy the Elf, Iconic SNL Audition & Ron Burgundy's Dating Advice | Ep 119

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92% is it's Buddy the Elf, Bugatsu, Ashley Schaefer, Ricky Bobby, Ron Burgundy, Chance Michael Michaels. 92% is trying to take himself.
Will Ferrell is here. Oh, my God.
So epic. Best intro.
Best intro ever. Best intro ever.
I apologize if i just blew your ears out will but no no that was soothing i want to i'm going to play that on a loop to fall asleep to it's gonna be like a sleep machine for me yeah we are uh if you can't tell we are jazzed to have you but i gotta be right away we saw saw this post on Twitter from the LA Kings. Buddy the Elf is officially in Hockeywood.
Can we pull this up, Brandon? This is so good. This is not the Buddy Elf I remember.
This is just over the weekend. Buddy Elf has been through some shit.
What's... Buddy the Elf got laid off, I think.
No. the north pole he's having a pull from his beer smoking a smoking a cig yeah just having him time that was just i get these weird ideas every now and then they're golden man told my wife, because we're season ticket holders to the LA Kings.
We have the seats right on the glass, which are amazing. I said, gosh, over the break.
You know what? It'd be funny if I just got like a Buddy the Elf costume and didn't shave for like a week. And I'm just sitting there with like a candy candy cigarette it's just a candy cigarette and i'm just gonna like sit there for a period and see what how people react and that was it but the reaction was insane we're like what is he doing is he promoting something is but occasionally i just like to do weird things like that just to stir it up dude it's the best yeah it's the best or have you always been a hockey fan I knew I know you've been following the kings for a while now but yeah I kind of I was uh I I remember there was I grew up in Southern California and there was uh there was a kid who moved into my neighborhood from Connecticut who played hockey and we would play street hockey we would play this is sad one on one one on one street hockey does that even are you kidding me this is this is all me and jason used to do oh okay of course this is legit we'd have ice so we just with the little ball and this was running around a parking lot oh yeah and then i yeah i was i i followed the kings way, way back when they had like the triple crown line of Marcel Dion, Dave Taylor, Charlie simmer.
Anyway. So you've been in it for a while.
Yeah. I've, I've been the, and then they, then, then of course they won a couple of cups and that helped build the audience.
And now, now they, now they draw really. Oh, look at that.
I got a little Wayne Great ski. Jason got me this for Christmas.
But did you guys play hockey as well with everything else you did? Oh, yeah. We did.
That was probably the first one that we both fell in love with, at least for me for sure. Yeah.
Yeah. No, same.
It's a wonderful sport. It's fun.
We both started it. Travis finished in high school playing basketball.
I played hockey in high school. We used to play street hockey with that same ball you're talking about.
Yeah. And one of the elementary schools, Roxbury Elementary, had cut down the basketball hoops.
Okay. And you would think this would be a safety issue, but they left the posts.
They just cut the hoops down. And if you hit the post, it was a goal.
So we played pickup hockey all the time just trying to hit the post. And that's how we played, yeah.
Yeah, kind of an amazing sport. And I'm not going to lie to you, there's some beautiful men out there who play hockey.
Gorgeous. Gorgeous.
As long as they have their teeth in. Yeah, as long as they have their teeth in.
You know, don't take the dentures out. But yeah, that was my latest kind of public stunt.
While we're on the public stunts, we got to pull up the shack at the Staples. We got to pull that one up.
That was classic. Oh, my gosh.
Look at that mustache. Yeah, that was another one.
I had friends who gave me a Staples security guard outfit, and I snuck it into the building and then just pretended to be one of the security guys. So, wait, that was not – wait, the Staples was not a part of that one either? They had no idea.
And I was afraid.

I stuck it in because I was afraid they would stop me and go,

where'd you get that uniform?

That's contraband.

Come with us. This is the vet.

Look, dude.

That's amazing.

I just stood on the set.

Yeah.

It turns out the other security guys, they were like, dude, I love it.

Just don't stand on the court.

You're good with us.

You're good with us.

And then I looked down and Shaq happens to be at the game. Unbeknownst, I just pick a random game.
And I look down and there's Shaq in the corner. He's rolling.
He's laughing. So I stand up a couple times in between the breaks.
And then I'm like, what else do I do with this? I don't know. And then someone taps me on the shoulder and says, you know, during the next break, Shaq's ready to leave the game.
Do you want to throw him out? Do you want to throw him out of the game? So he gave me the idea. He goes, yeah, just come over.
And then I escorted him out that is brilliant the diesel and then we had the biggest laugh and uh that is so good i was like i go i go shack do you know how extraordinary that is that you're allowing me to to throw you out of an nba basketball game he was like are you kidding me that is so uh and then and then it was it was so funny all the uh i found out from one of the heads of the security that he goes hey i have to tell you everyone appreciated the shout out all the security people appreciate the shout out i was like oh that's what i was looking for yeah actually i was kind of making fun of you guys you know it was a shout out it was a shout out for sure that is so fucking gold man you've done a lot of these so i gotta know i've been i've been just so curious about this when did you become a dj the video of you djing at the frat party might be one of my favorite you've it you've now inspired me to want to become a dj and do exactly what you made this shit look so fucking fun i don't know i don't know if you want to i don't know if you want a real peek behind the curtain or not but uh i don't know how to dj i was just all set up by my son and he was like dad can you come it's parents weekend can you come by the fraternity house and i'll just set it up and you just have to twist knobs and pretend like to push buttons yeah so i just acted the part uh but i do not know look at that's insane that's insane i i i still i still forget that people have uh cameras attached to their phones i don't know if you guys ever feel that way, but I still sometimes. That's so good.
The fact that you could just turn that switch off, though, man, not care about it, that's the best part. I sent that to everybody that I knew.
I showed up for 15 minutes, and then I went to the football game. I didn't think twice about it and then monday it like blows up and i'm thinking what wait what oh right all these kids were filming it anyway so good it's just it's fun to just kind of i just love kind of doing those kind of out of the box things just to just to mingle with people and and uh well we love when You do it too big dog yeah for sure yeah thank you let's get into your athletic career jason why don't you hit them with it you were an athlete growing up kicker oh yes yes oh yes so were you you were a kicker in high school did you ever try to play any other position or were you always like i'm going for the kicker well let's just say freshman year at University High School in Irvine, California, I dominated.
Okay. Yeah, baby.
Starting free safety and wide receiver. Let's go.
Two-way player. Two-way player.
Football guy right here. Co-MVP of the football team.
Oh, my gosh. Okay.
Basketball, freshman player of the year, freshman basketball. Then I played baseball.

And it was downhill.

Downhill for me.

I was 6'1 1⁄2 as like a freshman.

So you had some height advantage.

And then I think by the time I graduated, I was 6'3".

So I only grew an inch and a half more over the next couple years. But yeah, I'd never played football, and I played a lot of soccer.
And I also was doing the kicking. And then I got called up to – I made varsity as a sophomore as a kicker.
Okay. They wanted me to play safety too, but I was like, you guys, I weigh 145 pounds.

I pay 150 and I'm not.

Oh my gosh.

Something about, I never caught, let's just say no one was looking at me for the, for

proper tackling form.

Yeah, sure.

Yeah.

Something about getting your head in there.

I'd end up like, my approach looked really good. and then I'd roll to the side and face mask you.
I played defense one fucking time, and it was safety. And I saw a guy running at me looking like frickin' Eddie George, and I made a business decision is what I did.
I made a business decision to not go in with the head, the hands, the proper technique, just going. I went slide tackle.
I would set up the right way. You're like, oh, he's going to, Farrell's going to jack someone.
And then I would go, no, that's okay. So, yeah, I made, I was like, you know what? I'll just kick.
I was really hoping actually to be a college kicker. We were a horrible football program.
I think we were 1-8-1 my senior year. I can relate.
But I was getting those little form letters from University of Oregon, New Mexico State. New Mexico State.
what was your longest uh field goal do you remember 45 45 in a game in high school that's big time 50 50 in practice uh you can boot it and then i tried walking on at usc i saw it was i was my freshman year at usc i saw in the athletic department that they were having a tryouts walk on tryouts. Right.
But it was, it was, it was, it was in the fall. So obviously the team is already set.
So I'm like, why not? I showed up and they, we weren't allowed to kick on the field that actually had the field goals. It was just a big open.
And I was like, I was like really accurate, but I wouldn't say I was, you know, could boom it. So we just, I think we did, I think he did like five kickoffs.
And then the guy just blew the whistle was like, okay, bring it in. He was like, okay, huddle up.
I'm the special teams coach. We're pretty, we're pretty good.
We're pretty good with our kicking situation right now. But if any of you guys scout team you know running back or scout and i was like no i've heard about scout team oh no yeah no not in college in college that's yeah that's when it's no fun so that that was the extent of my uh my college athletic career it sounds like you you kind of wanted to be an announcer while in college.
Yeah, I went to – USC had this sports information program. I was – it's funny.
I always wanted to get into comedy, but I kind of grew up in the entertainment industry. My dad's a musician.
Okay. And had played at – in the best of places and in the worst of places he's a piano player and super talented and i just saw how uh unstable the entertainment business is sure he would have a job at a you know at a at a nightclub for for six months to a year and then and they'd be like well that's over.
I'm like, what happened? It was like, nothing. They just said, we're done.
And you have to go back out and search and do all this stuff. And so I thought, well, I'm never going to do that.
I want a real job. I didn't know what that meant, even though I loved comedy.
I loved making my friends laugh. I loved watching comedy.
I loved, you know, everything about it. But I also love sports and I played sports all throughout high school.
And SC had this program that was, was, was like sports journalism. So I thought, oh, that's a, that's a blending of both.
And, you know, SportsCenter had probably just started, let's see, I was in, I graduated in 90. So that was kind of the beginning of ESPN.
And boom, yeah, I want to be one of those guys, you know. And so I graduated and then was trying to get a job with local cable stations.
And, you know, you have to like build a tape and send it out to these small markets to get hired as the you know the sportscaster in yuma arizona those tapes gotta be gold i don't know where i should have held on to them uh but at the same time i thought you know what this itch is not going away i better scratch it about the comedy thing so at the same time I started doing classes at this improv theater in Los Angeles called the Groundlings where I had seen tons of people had gone on to sitcoms to Saturday Night Live to film and television, performers, writers, directors,

everything.

I thought, oh, this is, they had a school I could kind of take all these classes at. And so I kind of was doing both at the same time.
And I kind of found my, you know, you got to, as you guys probably know, you got to find your community. You got to find your support group.
And that place in LA, groundling cedar was where i felt safe enough to to kind of go for it and i was there for three years and uh and then that spring of uh spring of 95 was when snl was doing like a nationwide search for a brand new cast because they knew they were going to let go uh it was gonna be the last year for like farley and sandler and dana carvey and and that whole group man so yeah happened to be at the right place at the right time when they came and watched one of our shows and went through the audition process and then yeah the audition process dude we've all seen the audition video it is the most brilliant. The cat toy on the ground.
How does that even, how do you know that that's going to be the one that gets you the job? Like, what the fuck? Well, here's the thing. It doesn't make any sense in my mind.
You've hosted the show, right? You've stood on that spot where you deliver the monologue yeah and your heart is pounding in your chest right yes and yes but you're in front of a full audience that's supportive and there and they want to see you have fun yeah i'm on the ground in that studio playing around like a cat no one no one's in like war michael's purposely had no one in the studio to like create the tension of late night like he wanted to create the pressure of what it's like to be on saturday night like live tv so i'm in a void rolling around going oh my god i'm going back to LA. This is like because because there's no one lap there's no one in the there's no one in the studio there's just a camera operator and a sound guy oh my gosh so good this is so this is my one of my favorites so it was almost like a prisoner torture technique i just had to like fight through it and were there any other audition like like bits that you had or were you like kind of juggling a few at the time or they basically had to do an audition that was anywhere from five to eight minutes long of any of the characters of your choice oh nice okay so.
Okay. So that was one of the, I, one of the, I did another sketch.
I did, I did Harry Carey doing a play reading. And so I did my Harry Carey impersonation.
And I did, I did this sketch that I think really got me the job, which was this dad at a barbecue yelling at his kids to get off the shed um and that piece i auditioned with later became the sketch that was in i did in my very first show oh that's cool as a cast member so that's cool so they brought that one to life nice yeah yeah that's awesome man but it was it was awful i was like uh i had no idea if i did well or not and you just left going oh well i guess they'll call me i'll tell you what lauren is he could be a stone cold dude he can give you absolutely nothing yeah and i'm sure that that left you confused as all get out man but um he uh yeah he can he can uh it's funny he's like he can walk right by you or he can or he can or he can pump you up but yeah it sometimes sometimes you don't know where you stand with that guy yeah oh man the snl years were were definitely the beginning of uh of our fandom for you big guy who do you remember as some of your favorite characters on SNL? Like the ones that you really got excited to go out there and perform? I never imagined that I would get to play the president. Wow.
Because I wasn't known for doing political impressions or anything like that. So to get to do Bush for that long, like that was, and, and like, you know, you're going to be a go-to guy every week.
Uh, yeah, that was pretty heady. That was pretty, that was really fun.
Uh, I loved, you know, I think about like doing the cheerleaders with Sherry Oteri, sketches I got to do with, with Molly Shannon on a gas tire. We used to do this Bobby and Marty's sketch where we were like middle school music teachers who would perform and the kids would hate them.
And the Robert Goulet sketches were were really fun man neil diamond uh neil diamond and harry carrie i got to do i got to do harry carrie to an audience that maybe didn't know it was fun because people who knew harry carrie from the cubs as an announcer obviously knew who he was but then other people would go i love that mad scientist character you do with the crazy white hair. And I was like, well, no, he's a real person.
They're like, oh, okay, well, whatever. It doesn't matter.
I think it's so funny. I had a great seven years on the show, and I just, you know, I'm so lucky to look back, and there was probably, you know, I had fun like every single week doing that show.
Man. Yeah.
Seven years is a crazy run, man. You obviously seven years on the show as a cast member, but you're a member of the SNL Five Timers Club as well.
What's the difference between hosting it and being a cast member? Or what's the biggest difference? Yeah, I think, honestly, I preferred being a cast member because when you host, you all of a sudden, it was much easier to be a cast member and have your sketch get cut and kind of shake your fist, you know, like, ah!

But when you're on the other side and you're having a hand in like oh i don't want to choose between that's you know right i mean you've been in that room yeah and you probably had some choices where you had two or three funny things that could only go in the one slot um because there is there is a lot of thinking that goes into that show and And it's hard. And everybody was awesome on the cast.

So you're sitting there like, I don't want to take her off stage. I don't want to take him off stage.
I don't want to take that bit. That bitch, they kill it in that bit.
And I'm just. And that you're thinking, oh, but I really love doing the one thing.
And so I was like, oh, I hated, I hated like determining the fates of who was going to be in the show and who was not um also too you realize like the times i've come back to host that thing is that thing is like a track meet you forget it is a machine it is a well-oiled machine physical shape you're in comedy shape you're in and i all of a sudden felt like i was in an nba basketball game and i i the ball just kept hitting me in the face when i like the last time i came to host and uh i remember in fact i remember sitting with lauren at the after uh party and i was like god man lauren i can't believe i used to do the show like not even think twice about doing the show every week and he was like, I thought he was going to give me the, you know, attaboy, like, you know, you were, no, you were great. You were wonderful.
He was like, no, it's a young man's game. He didn't give me anything.
I'm like, was I that bad? He was like, oh, no, no, no. But no, it's a young man's game.
I'm like, geez, all right. It all rolls fast, though, man.
It happens so fast. And man, I was the luckiest guy in the world to even get a chance to do it, knowing how big of a fan I was of it and how big of an opportunity it is.
Jason, you're next. Yeah, Jason, he's been on the list.
I'm trying my own thing. Listen, I was up there able to watch Travis host.
And that was, and we've talked about it before, but it's just so impressive the amount of people that are involved in that thing and how it all happens. And I couldn't imagine the hosting itself, like in watching, because I think I got there maybe Thursday, Trav.
So I got to watch a little bit of that process of learning it every day. And I was just blown away, absolutely blown away.
It's a real piece of living history in terms of television and in terms of, in terms of like American comedy. Cause it's, when you're sitting at home and you just, you know, DVR it or turn it on at 1130, you have no idea during those commercial breaks that there's a hundred people running around, moving those sets.
And it, it is such a, I, I mean, I hope they never cancel that show because I don't think they'll ever do that type of show ever again.

No.

It's just, it's an art form the way they put on that show.

And it's surprisingly, it is surprisingly funny with how many things that can go wrong and the fact that they write it in a week.

Yeah, it's crazy.

It's hit or miss for sure, but it lands on its feet more often than not. And it's pretty impressive.
The whole week you're seeing the construction workers putting together sets. And your mind is just blown away.
And you're just like, what? And then some sets get canceled because they just don't fit in the time frame.'re just like what how do you do this week in week out it just blows my mind and you really have to have to be a part of it you have to have thick skin as a cast member because uh uh i remember uh when i was my first year on the show kevin nealon uh who i was a big fan of kevin nealon uh came back to to kind of see a show and say hi to us and uh he it was towards the end of that my first year on the show and he was like you're really funny like great job and i was like i was like thanks man and he's like let me give you some advice like you don't have to score every week just keep that in mind it's like if you can look back on a season and count on your, like if you've done 10 funny things, uh, then you've had a good year. And so it took the pressure off of like having to have a great show every week.
It's like, it's like hitting 300 and baseball, you know, if you hit 300, you're going to be in the hall of fame and if you if you could hit well 30 might be a little low if you can be funny 50 of the time that's a good batting average yeah yeah so i i took that to heart but yeah let me let me ask you this because we are doing i'm doing this late night thing on espn i just started it And we're trying to incorporate some scripted bits and some funny things. I guess what do you think is the biggest thing to performing a sketch or comedy live that you wouldn't tell anybody who's just starting out into that world? Because quite frankly, I've never done anything like this where there's like a live audience and you're trying to do this while it's being recorded.
Yeah me if this is a loaded question but i'm remiss if i didn't ask you pointedly if there's anything that you can like fast track my ability to be funny on no you're screwed man sounds like you gotta figure it out but yeah you know, I, the thing that I always lived by is because, you know, I, I was like, look, I'm going to meet, I'm going to, I'm going to watch people perform who I think I'm funnier than. I'm also going to watch people who are way funnier than me.
Yeah. And I'm going to have to be okay with that.
But the one thing no one will ever beat me at is how hard I commit to something. Sure.
You've got to commit sketch-wise to whatever the premise is. Yeah.
And just go for it. And if you lock in that way, all the apprehension will just melt away.
And then the audience will be on your side, too, because they'll just be like, He's going for it. Dude, this makes sense.
And hopefully it's a funny premise to begin with. But even if it's not, they'll just be like, God, Jason is going for it i'm on his side and that's that's all you need

to worry about uh and and and to not because i've seen people you can't have one foot in and one foot out uh because then the audience doesn't believe doesn't believe your intention uh absolutely and and so that's that's just the main thing dude you send it better than anybody man now a moment brought to you by our sponsor american express oh american express jason you swiping the card anywhere swiped it anywhere i've swiped it everywhere from food to travel i bought all of my christmas presents with it enjoying the holidays is easier when you're with amex platinum complimentary breakfast for two and guaranteed 4 p.m. checkout when you book fine hotels plus resorts through Amex Travel.
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member just so you know we asked uh bill murray this and he said it was ray charles because he just really he was amazed at how well he remembered all of his lines oh my god didn't have to use any cue cards yeah we had a similar we had uh i remember jackie chan posted with us what he didn't

he didn't read English

so he couldn't use the cue card

so he I remember Jackie Chan hosted with us. What?

He didn't read English.

So we couldn't use the cue card.

So we had to do the whole thing memorized. There we go.

And he was on fire.

But I think

there are

varying degrees.

I remember one of our best hosts was uh derek jeter yeah he's just committed to everything regardless of how stupid we put him and also that's how i got to know that's how i met shack for the first time he came on and did i think it was Kelsey Grammer was the host, but, but they said, Hey, Shaq's in town. He wants to do some sketches.
He destroyed, he was so funny and natural to the point where one of his sketches got cut because he had a funnier show than the host. He had to reel it back.
He had to reel it back because we wrote this sketch where all the cast members were picking on me and making me cry and and shaq came up he's like what's going on and i'm like shaq everyone's making fun of me and he's like come with me will and we walked to home base there and he picked me up in his arms and we proceeded to sing a duet called no one's gonna hurt my little man he was shack cradling me oh we did this whole but that got cut and it like destroyed oh my gosh but then i swear there was like it was a lot of times it was uh actors that you like steve buscemi oh you're nice insanely good i remember a lot of times dramatic actors who were so excited to you didn't always see him in the comedy world exactly and and they that thing of like they would just commit to the premise they weren't even trying to be funny and it they subsequently got twice as many laughs yeah i love it but yeah it's amazing you just remember you just referenced bill Billy Bob Thornton and made me think of that bad elf at the top of the show. Maybe there's a bad elf, bad Santa remake coming down the line.
Yeah. Maybe, yeah.
A lot of people will be distraught by that combination. But maybe that's why we need to do it.
Yeah, exactly. By the way gotta bring something up all right i happen to be watching during the holiday break travis you guys the pittsburgh game oh yeah yeah and when you scored when you scored did you just have one touchdown or did you have yeah i just had Did you just have the one? And you went to go dunk the football.
You missed the dunk. I did not dunk it.
I did not dunk it. You missed it.
You hit the rim. And I remember thinking, oh, I want to bring that out.
I know I'm going to be talking to you guys. I'm like, God, Travis, he doesn't have the same hops.
He missed the dunk. I don't.
I don't have the hops anymore. I used to.
The football just kind of hit the bar and just spilled over. But you still try to celebrate.
Like, I just dunked it. I was like, no, no, no.
I gave him my best, Tony Gonzalez. He was known for dunking.
And I had just eclipsed his touchdown record. Yeah, maybe finger roll next time.
I should have. What I did was, you remember when you first started trying to dunk and you would just go up and smack the backboard? That turned to what I was doing right there.
It wasn't a full dunk. Maybe if I get it earlier in the game, I might be able to, the explosive ability might be able to get me up there.
I have been thinking about that since that moment. I've literally been stewing on that.
Nice. Well, I've been thinking people might have forgot about it.
So perfect. Before we move on, I got to ask this.
Have you ever dunked, Will? Can you dunk? I dunked. I remember having like a breakaway, and I was like, I'm going to dunk this.
And the ball slipped out of my hand i got right here i got like rim yeah and then the ball just fired off the backboard and uh coach was like what was that i was like you told me try to dunk it if i'm right he's like okay um i could dunk a tennis ball but now yeah yeah You're not in basketball? Yeah. My Travis has seen me, no joke, over an hour in a gym.
At least. Just trying? Just trying.
Just trying. Repeatedly thinking I'm getting closer and repeatedly failing.
If I just get the technique right, I can do it. I'm there.
I'm right there. It's going to happen.
I know. You're 310 pounds.
You're not going to dunk the ball. Gravity is working against you.
Exactly. All right.
Let's get to this segment. We're going to try this out.
This is the Will Ferrell character football draft. All right? Okay.
So we're going to try and attempt to draft a football team with your characters. We're going to have you do this.
We got round one. We're going to do quarterback.
So if we're picking a Will Ferrell character, what character would be the quarterback of this football team? I think the quarterback, not that he would necessarily be good, but he'd be very commanding, would be Ron Burgundy yeah you know it yeah you know ron's he's commanding he's commanding he'd get the plays wrong he'd call the wrong cadences yeah he'd he'd mess up constantly but he'd blame someone else yeah and uh it's a big fun we got right dorothy man tooth on two dorothy exactly baxter left so good go right swordfish ron that's not a play yes it is let's run it's run it. It is now.
It is now.

Second round, we're going running back.

Who you got for running back?

Running back with Pro.

I'm going to say Frank the Tank from old school.

The Tank, dude.

He's breaking some tackles.

You know it.

Because he's got that name, the Tank.

He's going to break some tackles.

He's also going to be inebriated enough to where he won't feel any pain.

That was my next question. Is he inebriated in this? Yeah, he's definitely.
He's definitely. He's drinking all night if you give him some beers.
Well, yeah, he may try to take a couple plays fully naked. Yeah.
Yeah. Then nobody wants to tackle him.
Right. Man, he just got great strategy for him.
He's untouched into the end zone. So good.
All right, round three. Wide receiver.
Maybe because he's kind of – I think he's, I would say, very flexible and live, the word live. Buddy, I think he's, I would say, very flexible and live.
The word live. I'd say Buddy the Elf.
Buddy the Elf. Nice.
I could have swore you were going to go Chaz Michael Michaels, like jumping up. Oh, okay.
Leaping over the middle beautifully. Very graceful.
Yeah, Chaz Michael. Very graceful.
That's a better. Very graceful.
That's a better. I like Buddy the Elf.
I'm not. That's a better call.
That's a better that's a better uh i like buddy the elf i'm not that's a better call that's a better call buddy the elf just the happiest disposition ever why does he was eat a lot of candy too yeah they do skittles yeah i'm telling you uh round four who's a coach coach would you know because i think he he probably did i I'd say Jackie Moon from SemiPro. Oh, yeah.
He was a coach. Because he was a player coach.
Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's a good one.
He had to run it all. And he knows how to manage people.
Owner. Where are we thinking? Round five, owner.
Who's the owner of this football team? I don't know if he's the right owner but i i just haven't i i forgot to throw him in but let's just say ricky bobby's the owner dude uh you already know he's running the show dude that'd be the best uh the best hail mary our baby who art in heaven yes he would He would lead the team in the baby Jesus prayer before every game,

whether they wanted to or not.

Sweet baby Jesus.

Yeah.

Yeah.

No, Ricky Bobby, he'd be a good owner.

He's got like kind of a little Jerry Jones in him.

Probably.

Yeah.

For sure.

My pals.

They're definitely friends. Yeah.
Have you seen the clip of jerry jones uh with the chops he's uh he's acting now he's in a tv show no yeah i was actually i was actually pretty surprised i was like man he's speaking kind of better than what as in the interviews he gets wait what show is he in this is a good question. I don't know.
I only came across it. Landman with Billy Bob Thornton.
Oh, Landman. Yeah.
So you're definitely just peek at that. One of those Paramount Plus shows.
You know it. I actually watch some soccer on Paramount Plus.
The old football, huh? You got a premier team that you root for i don't really but i i'm part of the uh a small part of the ownership group of uh uh leeds united which is the second division yeah nice very uh and so i've been out to them to one of their matches which was awesome and uh so i'll i'll keep tabs on them heck yeah i see i see you at a lot of sporting events is that is that like you're you're kind of like your hobby you just you just love you love to get some live action sports no pathetic right i'm i'm like living through you when i see you i'm like dude i want to do what will's doing i've got way too many tickets let alone the baseball the baseball uh bit you did where you played all the at all the teams and everything yeah um no We have because we're part of the uh lafc soccer team out here in la which is mls we're part of that ownership group too so we go to those games nice i have tickets to the lakers every now and then uh the kings usc football and somehow in the year that they won the world series i went went to zero Dodger games. No, I should have gone.
No, I went to one. I went to one.
I know we, we, we go to a lot of sports, but I mean, I, sports is a huge part of my life. It was, it was kind of the way, um, and I'm sure I know you guys can relate to this.
It was the way I was able to make friends. It was the way it just, I loved playing team sports.
Yeah. I mean, maybe it's something where athletes just want to do comedy and comedians just want to go to sports.
Cause I went to a UCB out in LA. I went to operate citizens brigade.
Yeah. It was so much fun.
It is amazing watching people in improv just take something from nothing and make something funny instantaneously. It is so impressive.
They're an incredible group. UCB is one of the best.
Right on. We have an idea here for this next bit.
Trav, do you want to explain it? Yeah, we got relationship advice voicemail. So something we do on the show is answer voicemails from our fans, and we've asked them to call in asking for relationship advice because who doesn't want to hear relationship advice from a couple of knuckleheads? Would you like to help us on these? Oh, sure.
You want to jump in? Let's do it, man. Here's the thing.
You could answer some of these questions as one of your characters, maybe? Okay. Nice! Yes!

Oh, I'm so excited.

Brandon. Brandon.

Uh-oh, Brandon. Hey, Travis.
Hey, Jason.

Big Chief fan. I'm a three

Pete coming. Just wanted to know

your advice for a

first date, when you should know

those red flags, and when

to look for the green flags.

Go, Chiefs. Red flags, green flags.
When to look for the red flags, when to look for the green flags. Go Chiefs.
Red flags, green flags. When to look for the red flags, when to look for the green flags.
I, let's see, Ricky Bobby would say, look, I don't know anything about red flag or green flag. You just got to get yourself into position to look for the checkered flag.
Because, I mean, there's only one thing you need to worry about. I mean, if you ain't first, you're last.
Yeah, baby. I would just tell that young lady to for the checkered flag you gotta you gotta find your way to the finish line guys i don't know if that's good advice or bad it sounds like bad advice i think it's kind of metaphorically it makes sense you gotta find your way to the finish line yeah you know i loved it man that shit was fucking gold that was so so good.
So good. That couldn't have gone any better.
Alright, here we go. Next one.
What do we got? Alright, Jason and Travis. So, what do I do whenever I bought this girl tickets to a concert for Christmas and she dumped me the week before.

Now her best friend wants to go with me.

Do I take her or no?

Do you take the best friend after the tickets you bought for your girlfriend?

She dumped you.

Wait, I want to make sure I understand.

Do you take the best friend of the girl?

Yes.

So the girlfriend dumped him, and now the best friend wants to go with?

Well, Ron Burgundy would say, of course you take the best friend. Of course.
Because you teach that young lady a lesson. You're not going to be some horse's ass.
You've spent $1,200 going to, I don't know, whatever concert, whatever music you listen to nowadays. I don't know if it's Kajah Gugu or Duran Duran or whatever it is.
But you send a signal to that young lady that you're not messing around. And then you take photos of you and the best friend making out and send it back to the to the old girlfriend and say that's how i do it that's how you roll right there baby that was so good that's why you're the greatest of all time oh my goodness oh man do we got one more in us you want to do one more one we can move on too that was gold

that was so good

I think we're good to roll, man. Let's get this thing going.
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We got a bunch of questions. We're just going to rattle off at you.
Ready to go? Okay. Ready.
Lightning round. Lightning round, baby.
Yeah, that's right. Feel Feel free to tell us the fuck off all right here we go okay before you made it what was your worst job uh definitely a bank teller i was a bank teller oh that's what donna kelsey that's our mom was she started off with the bank telling worked her way up to some some some higher up positions but yeah she started off teller.
Customers would actually complain as to how bad I was. So I'd break out and flop sweat.
Your mom can relate to it. When you're starting out, you're handling people's money.
It was awful. That's too funny.
As long as your register wasn't short, you're good, man. I was short my first two days out.
I wasn't even pocketing the money. That's crazy.
Excuse me, manager. Manager, I'm trying to deposit money in your teller.
It's like playing with a ball of yarn and he won't respond to me. What's wrong with this guy? In fact, I remember I was putting up flyers in the break room to try to get people to come to my stand-up comedy show.
Oh. And I was so quiet as a bank teller because I was so nervous all the time.
And I had this manager go, I saw your flyer. You do stand-up comedy? And I go, yeah.
She's like, I'd like to see that. And just walk away.
God damn it. You're a father of three what is the uh secret to being a cool dad the secret uh to being a cool dad i think constantly lovingly make fun of them nice yeah hum best.
Perfect. Humiliation.
Why don't they make R-rated comedies anymore?

I think they do.

Actually, I have one coming out.

Here we go.

At the end of this month.

Hey, yo.

Here we go.

Cordially invited on Amazon.

Perfect.

Which is like an old school, R-rated, fantastic movie.

Reese Witherspoon and I, we have two competing weddings booked at a destination location and we have to kind of duke it out to see who's going to be the wedding that gets to take place. But yeah, I, it's an interesting time.
I think people are making it. I just, I don't know why they're not kind of going to the theaters to see them and i think we have i think we kind of have so many options now that a lot of people would you know would rather go oh i'll just i'll just catch that at home yeah there's nothing like going to the theater though man i know it's when you sit and watch a comedy with an audience you're reminded as to how much more fun it is.
Right. I'm trying to get that back.
I'll happily see this new one in theaters for you, bud. Even though it's not in theaters.
It's on Amazon. It's on Amazon.
You did just say it was on Amazon. I'm sorry.
We'll go rent a movie theater out. And we're going to play.
Yes. Okay.
I'm calling everyone in the neighborhood. They're coming over.
gonna you're cordially invited to watch cordially invited at the movie theater with us is there one idea for a movie that uh you haven't gotten to make yet oh because you want to steal it yeah i you know what i'm gonna i'm gonna pass on that because i'm afraid you guys will steal it no no no we wouldn't do something like that no i don't trust you guys i don't trust you no i don't know i don't i i am uh i'm trying to think uh uh if there's anything uh i i it's funny ideas usually pop into my head in the most random way uh but uh but no i don't have an exciting answer that sorry let me ask you this. When do you know an idea is ready to be made a movie? Because I would imagine you think about stuff constantly.
Yeah. Like, how do you know when it's like, okay, I'm going to make this movie about an anchorman named Rod? Like, where does that even like, at what point are you like, yeah, this could become a full motion i think it's i think you just get a sense of something that you know if it's an idea that you can kind of spit out in a sentence yeah then it's got a good chance uh you know it's like you know i remember when we were we were pitching anchorman which at the we got rejected.
I think we got like rejected 20 different times from various studios and financials. Wow, it just blows my mind.
That's fascinating. Like no one could kind of wrap their head around an ensemble comedy that took place in a newsroom.
They kept hearing the news part. And we're like, no, no, no, it's going to be, you know, Austin Powers wasn't about us.
It wasn't about the spy game. It was about a really funny character.
Right. Our characters are gonna be funny.
And then I remember, I remember thinking, gosh, this is so hard to get off the ground. We should maybe pick a topic that everyone's talking about.
And at that time, NASCAR was at its height. And I was like, for instance, what if I'm just me as a NASCAR driver and we sold that in like two seconds? That's crazy.
Yeah, I don't know. I don't know if there's an exact formula for it, but it's just something that I think grabs the people who have to pay for it.
There you go. There we go.
All right. What's your welcome to Hollywood momentwood moment we all have a welcome to nfl moments that just i don't know it's usually a big hit or somebody that we're uh extremely you know fond of or we're big fans of growing up that we're finally going up against what was your what was your welcome to hollywood moment i mean one of one of my welcome to hollywood moments was getting to be the first,

uh,

the first member of a brand new cast on Saturday night live.

And I got to say the first,

the first lines of our,

our opening show and I'm sitting there and they're counting down the show and

I'm looking out.

That's crazy.

My folks are in the audience and friends and family. And'm like i can't believe i'm here and i'm about to i'm about to say whatever line uh which uh a little trivia here i mess up my line the first time i speak on camera on the show i flub it no way because i felt and you know travis you know how you do the full dress rehearsal and then by the time you do the live show you're like piece of cake i got it i got it yeah but all and so i did the dress rehearsal i was like this is gonna be great but i'm sitting there in the chair and the enormity of the moment hits me and i start to get a little bit emotional thinking about wow this is the I've always dreamed about.
And then it was like five seconds. And then I had to do my line.
I was like, and I was like, oh, and Lauren came back. He's like, are you OK? I'm like, I'm fine.
I'm fine. I just I don't know what happened so just a stroke yeah exactly it was it was incredibly uplifting and incredibly grounding all at the same time it was like don't ever take anything for granted and yeah i can't believe i'm here there you go that's awesome all right hypothetically you see two guys that look like us coming at you on the sidewalk what movie do you think we we're going to quote at you? You guys are going to say you're my boy, Blue.
Yeah! Old school. You're going to go old school, I think.
Or you might say Milk is a bad choice. I don't know.
Dude. If it's a hot day, I'm definitely going to Milk is a bad choice.
I was know dude if it's a hot day i'm definitely a hot day i was in wisconsin and i had a whole uh wheel of cheese i'm like whole wheel of cheese i'm not even upset yeah milk was a bad choice by the way i improvised that because i was literally trying to tell the director in that moment like why did you give me a carton of milk as we're shooting in

la on like a 98 degree day and i literally was like milk was a bad choice because i'm like i'm having to drink hot milk in this scene that's the worst the fucking worst you were spot on with that one this isn't on this but do you ever get tired of people quoting your movies like are you like, yeah, I get it.

It's got to happen just

constantly. I wouldn't say...
This isn't on this, but do you ever get tired of people quoting your movies? Are you like, yeah, I get it.

It's got to happen just constantly.

I wouldn't say.

Yeah.

I mean, sometimes there are moments where I'm getting this weird kick here.

Sorry.

Got a nice light.

Yeah, look at that light.

That's coming in real nice.

Wow.

That's nice.

I don't know how to fix this. Well, whatever.
Here we go. I'm going to sit like this.
We're rolling. Yeah, sometimes someone does something and you're just like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Thank yeah i did yeah i said that and uh most of the time it's it's fantastic but then there's about 20 percent of the time where i don't pick it pick up the cue oh wow i mean it's a lot of fucking classics that you've been in so i get it someone yelled at me uh why are you so sweaty and i go oh because i was just on a bike ride like no from stepbrothers after the drum set why are you so sweaty you're supposed to say because i was watching cops yeah like oh right sorry and she got so pissed and walked away yeah that's ruined it for me i've ruined it so i do ruin it for a lot of people because i don't i don't pick up my cue that's funny as shit yeah what um what's your uh comedy mount rushmore uh throughout your life who are you who's your top four you're throwing on your mount rushmore i'm gonna put uh steve martin nice i'm gonna put uh i'm probably gonna put bill murray up there yeah legend i'm gonna put eddie murphy so good and let's just say the original original cast of sarah and i live all nice yeah throw them all that last one out hell yeah all right i'll allow that's great. That's awesome, man.
Awesome list. I love that list.
Do you have an actor you've wanted to work with that you haven't yet? Steven Seagal. Shut up! No, no, no.
That would be the funniest goddamn thing. I don't know why.
You talk about doing something totally unexpected. No, that would be.
Yeah, exactly. I don't know why I just pictured you dressed up with the slick back as Steven Stigall.
I don't know why that's what popped in my head. I don't even think we could track him down.
I don't know where he is on on planet Earth these days. Yeah, whatever he's at.
I mean, I'd love to do something weird with like an actor like Daniel Day-Lewis. Yeah.
Yeah. Just gets really enthralled and into it.
Exactly. Try to get him to do like something weird.
Yeah. That's fun.
What about the best sporting event you've ever been to oh my gosh i'm gonna say two i'm gonna say the women's world cup final at the rose bowl oh uh for women's soccer nice where they finally beat china they finally won the the women's world it's the famous brandy shastain taking the top off. Yeah.
Fuck yeah. That was incredible.
And then I'll say, even though my team lost the game, the national championship game again at the Rose bowl, USC, Texas 2005. Yeah.
That was an amazing back. It's a great game.
You just made whoever had the team, the ball last was going to win that game, and the time just ran out. You have no idea how his microphone is muted, but our head producer, our intern Brandon, our head producer, is the biggest Longhorns fan you've ever met in your life.
Okay, I'm glad Brandon. He's screaming like a child off camera right now.
He's going to lay into me right into me right now sure it's the reason he went to texas i believe is because they won that game and i sat at in the same row with matthew mcconaughey oh yeah and his buddy and they wanted to talk shit the whole game like every time you know of course like texas guys love to be like okay here we go right away i'd be like what what happened what happened yeah what happened was that what was that and it was so back and forth but i have to say at the end of that game everyone just shook hands oh it was the one of the best ever watched one of the yeah so anyway but i've been lucky i've been to a bunch of fun stuff but those two pop into my head yeah that that game vince young's like performance towards the end of it especially like he was just it was like crazy yeah it's like somebody just caught fire and like could not be stopped and there is a classic photo of vince young scoring that last touchdown. Yeah.
And one of the SC cheerleaders jumping up in the air thinking it was SC that had scored. No.
It's so bizarre. Yeah.
Really? Yeah. Oh, I need to look at this.
I have not seen that. That's amazing.
You got to know who's got the ball. No, she.
She was not the sharpest tool in the shed. Becky, I'll'll tell you i've been to the rose bowl one time since he played uh ucla out there when i tell you it is one of the coolest atmospheres like i can only imagine that place packed to the t for that game and seeing highlight after highlight after highlight for the biggest game of the year man i can only imagine what that felt like man both those teams with guys who went on to the league like on both sides of the ball and uh uh yeah it was it was an insane environment yeah so cool crazy well shout out to my former teammate vince young awesome game and shout out to you will i mean listen before we end this we always give our guests do you have any questions for us like or do you just like want to go and go about your day that's fine too i don't want to put you on the spot let's see what time is it you got the sun hunting you down over there i know i'm trying to i'm trying to help your producers out here by not getting blasted.
But I do have a question for you guys.

How much, how do you compare doing, getting to do things like this?

Like, obviously you, you, you live, you're living out.

You got to be pro athletes. This thing you dreamed about your whole life.

Oh yeah.

Now getting to do this other side of stuff.

Is it as much fun? Is it more fun? Is it a different kind of fun? Yeah, I'll take a hack at this. So me and Jason, we started this thing because we just wanted to show our brotherhood and have fun catching up once a week.
And it was a magical year where we both went to the Super Bowl and got to talk about both of our seasons throughout it. And in retrospect, after about three years, the coolest part is getting to interview guys like you and just getting to shoot the shit with you over the course of an hour and get to pick your brain on the profession that you're in and what got you there and things like that.
That's all been so fascinating to me. And it kind of hit me like a blindside because I just got on here to

have fun with my brother and now I get to do a cool shit like this. So that that's definitely the, uh, the, the ups for me.
That's awesome. I would say, like Travis said, being able to just talk to Trav once a week, we have a dedicated time.
And before we did this, there'd be like months sometimes in the middle of a season, especially where you like fall by the wayside. So that combined with interviewing really successful, interesting people or friends is awesome.
But I would say the other thing that's, it's very similar, you know, when you get ready to play a sport, you practice and you work and you prepare and then the game day happens and you, you know, get to express yourself as a player. And that's something very unique as an entertainer as well, where, you know, you work at it and you try to like, you know, think about how can I do things or what can I do that'll be interesting or take a creative idea from scratch.
Yep. And I don't know, bring it to life.

And it all is just really rewarding when that happens.

I think that's similar in terms of getting out there.

You worked all offseason.

We've put in all these new plays.

Let's go out there and see what it looks like.

And then you get blown out by 40 points.

You're like, fuck, we're out of out of the boys back to the drawing board but that's i think there's a lot of parallels between team sport and getting to do a lot of things entertainment because the same thing can happen like i think that's why i love working on films it's a it's a team of people it's a crew of people i love saturday night live because of the ensemble because it was like we all like if if if you know if we all pull for each other the whole show does well and we all do well and same sort of thing you can you work hard you're working on something you you film something for 50 days it takes a year to come out yeah and you lay a big fat turd and uh and you're like oh audience didn't think it was funny at all we thought it was hilarious um there you go and then you're like well i'm still glad we went for it you know what what are you gonna do yeah so i'm taking your advice and i'm full sending everything i ever do in the entertainment world man full send i appreciate that advice man yeah well thank you so much brother you're unbelievable guys cannot wait to see everything you got coming up and uh appreciate the time man thanks you guys all right that was fun all righty that wraps up another episode of new heights thank you to our guest will farrell we'll be back next week with a brand new episode make sure you are subscribed on youtube to the new heights channel and follow new heights on the wondery app or wherever you get your podcasts reminder you can listen to new episodes of new heights early and ad free right now by joining wonderyery Plus in the Wondery app or on Apple Podcasts.

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