Division Clinching Doinks, Eagles Passing Frustrations and Worst First Dates | Ep 114

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Jason, tell the people what we got coming up. Sure thing, Trav.
Coming up on this episode, we're going to talk about the Chiefs' doink of a win. And we're also going to check out some of your voicemails now that Brandon actually has listened to them.
Nice. Thank you, Brandon, for being on top of those Heights Hotline voicemails.
Yeah. Way to go, intern Brandon.
By the way, Kylie let out, Kylie let the cat out of the bag that intern brandon is actually the executive producer brandon and that he's not actually an intern which that's fucked up kylie the fuck that's not nice i'm gonna start telling everybody i'm gonna start telling everybody about her show get your own show and then all of a sudden you're letting out our secrets and how she's yeah you're new news new news is brought to you Paramount Network. Watch Yellowstone season finale this Sunday, 8, 7 central, followed by 1923 season one only on Paramount Network.
Film club poll results. Hey.
We're watching Christmas Vacation, ladies and gentlemen. It's heavy chase.
I twist my arm. I twist my arm.
That's a double feature review of Love Actually and Christmas Vacation. How do we feel about this? Is this right? Did we handcuff ourselves into this? I think I handcuffed.
I think Kylie handcuffed us into this. So she's calling out our interns and she's making us watch more than one video.
This is war, Kylie. Yeah.
I don't know what we're going to do to get her back. But I guess we just got to get her on New Heights.
But she's going to come on and do Love Actually review. Nice.
So we'll see how that goes. Yeah, that'll be fun.
And then we're going to do Christmas Vacation, Chevy Chase and what the 92%ers wanted to listen to. So yeah, it should be fun.
Is Kylie going to be a part of the Christmas Vacation review too? I think we're both about to be a part of both. Yeah.
Intern Brandon said, sure. So I guess, yeah.
Sweet. This is probably also going to be our Christmas episode for all of you listening.
I don't know what that means. I just know that we're probably thinking of some cool things.
Maybe we'll decorate. Put some Christmas lights up in there.
You used to have the green and reds back there. Any place that has Christmas lights year-round is my kind of jam.

It's your kind of jam?

So anyways, the Christmas episode is going to come out.

It's going to come out on Christmas, Brandon?

What the fuck does a round mean?

Okay, Christmas episode is going to come out Christmas Eve.

That's going to have Kylie on it.

We're going to review both of these movies as well as talk about other things Christmas-related.

Travis has, what, three games in 10 days? Is that what's going on? I think that's the number. Yeah, it's crazy.
So Travis is going to be pretty busy. It's going to be a weird schedule.
So we're going to record this and put it out Christmas Eve, I think, is what Brandon just said. So if it's not that blame him.
Anyways, look forward to that episode and these film reviews coming. then.
Yeah, should be fun. Going to be a blast.
Ooh, The Grinch came in second, man. I know.
It's a great one. I mean, the good thing about all these movies, I'm going to watch all four of these anyways.
It's A Wonderful Life. I don't think I would have watched that one.
So I'll say this. We never watched this growing up.
Have you ever watched A Wonderful Life? It's A Wonderful Life. No.
I highly recommend it. I'm telling you, go give it a chance.
It's a good movie. It's black and white.
So it's got some years on it, but it's a nice film. I really enjoy it.
I watched it for the first time a couple of years ago because everybody's always putting it up there with one of their favorite Christmas movies. Everybody? I mean, it got more than Scrooged.
it's a it got a good amount of votes it's definitely one from a different generation but it's very good it holds up it holds up all right all right i'll think about it i'll think about it or i might just watch christmas vacation there you go well jason we were spotted in vancouver for the last stop on the Ares tour. Vancouver? I wasn't in Vancouver.

Yeah, you were.

Look at that belly and that beard, dude.

Oh, what the fuck?

I'm not fat.

That's not what I look like.

That's what I look like right now.

That is so good.

There was a mention of tight Jumanji pants how about that so good oh my goodness how about it i wonder i wonder if tay saw them in the stands she you can't keep it together if you see that like there's no way you're like in the middle of a song and you see them walking around and you're just like... I mean, I would lose it.
I love that the one lady went mustache era, Travis Kelsey. Oh, yeah.
This is full on homemade jerseys. How do you even make that? You don't buy that anywhere.
But that's like pressed on numbers and letters. Yeah, it's very nice of lot of effort put it's dyi for sure diy sorry diy there it is do it yourself yeah they probably had a blast uh there was also this andy reed deal going on in the big red era oh nice two that's pretty good they're like two andy reeds that are two friends nice what is it about andy reed that like anybody dressing like him is just like incredible yeah and everybody loves it he's just so iconic that mustache that stash is just it's just just sweeps you away man doesn't it just yeah just a great nickname too big red i mean yeah kool-aid man there's a whole chewing gum named after it steubenville ohio big red oh yeah that's right shout out to claris steubenville battery gosh it's a great name big red nice well shout out to tay and uh the unbelievable heiress tour has finally come to an end how dude so how hold on how long was the heiress tour? It was, I think.
Over two years? Almost two years. Almost two years? It was March of the year that we played.
How many shows do you know off the top of your head? 149 or 152. I forget which one it was.
Somewhere in there. A fuck ton.
That's so many shows. Is kind of how I sum it up.
149 shows in 21 countries wow it's insane absolutely insane over 10 million people in the stands over the course of it like accumulatively it's pretty crazy well shout out to tay shout out to everybody that was a part of that show obviously it's it's her it's her music her tour and everything but that that was a full production man thing. Yeah, fair enough.
It was the best tour in the world because of a lot of people, and mostly because of Taylor. All right.
Shout out to everybody, buddy. All righty.
Walter Payton, Man of the Year. I don't know if all of you saw, but my brother, Travis Kelsey, Kansas City Chief, is nominated for the Walter Payton NFL Man of the Year.
From Chiefs owner Clark Hunt, through his new Ignition Lab, the Growing 87 and Running Foundation, and his partnership with Operation Breakthrough, Travis has impacted the lives of thousands of young people in the Kansas City region and beyond. Very few athletes in the history of the game have balanced the same level of team success, individual accolades, and community engagement.
Trav, how does it feel to be nominated? This is awesome. This is a huge award.
It is. It is a huge award.
I love getting out here in the Kansas City community, man. I really do.
They show up for each other so much, and they do it with so much pride. That's the beauty of having the community is always to, you know, try and make a better world for the ones that support you on game day, man, or just need that help and that support in the community.
And I've just been so lucky that I came here to Kansas City and got the opportunity from the Hunt family. And I realized real early on that they were an organization and how they ran this organization was that they wanted everyone

in the community, making sure the people in Kansas City felt the support

that we feel on Sundays.

And the one thing that you see when you first walk in that building

is all of the winners and all the winners of the man of the year

in terms of, you know, how much, history Kansas city players have in this community and, and everybody getting acknowledged for that. And I don't do it for the awards.
I don't do it for the acknowledgement. I do it for the smiles on the kids faces at the ignition lab and at operation breakthrough.
And, and to see what they do with what we give them at their exposure. You're not lying.
And, you know, and it's just, it's so, it's so cool to see what they do with what we give them at their exposure. You're not lying.
You know, and it's just, it's so cool to see what they have done with what they have to work with over there. And this year will be the first year that we actually had the high school kids.
Long story short, Operation Breakthrough is a beautiful organization in Kansas City that helps out a lot of the underserved kids, especially on the east side. And yeah, the program when I first got to Kansas City stopped in eighth grade.
And I really wanted to keep that going through the high school years because I know how much of a knucklehead I was and not having anywhere to go or a safe haven or just somewhere to, you know, perfect my craft after school. I don't know where the heck I would have have been so i really wanted to extend that for operation breakthrough and that's when we created the uh ignition lab 87 running ignition lab which is a stem lab it has everything from a mechanic shop a muffler uh a robotics lab uh entertainment studio um e-gaming it has everything you could possibly need a kitchen for kids that want to get into the culinary uh world it's remarkable honestly yeah it's unbelievable and i couldn't have done it without the support from kc and uh the support from everybody working at operation breakthrough and sure enough we couldn't have done this without the kids that actually want to make a difference with their lives and uh that's the beauty of it and that's why it, man.
Yeah, no, I think it's awesome. And, you know, they convert some of the vehicles to electric.
They're converting my truck to electric, but one of the things we got to see was that fully electric Chevelle that they're raffling off. I drove it to the game this Sunday.
Yeah, how'd that feel? Dude, it rolls. It's pretty gnarly.
It's cool as shit. It is cool.
A big guy like me, it's tough for me to get in those old cars if you don't put pull the seats back but man it is uh that thing is sweet man i'll tell you those old school cars are just so freaking cool man i think i got a 71 chevelle that uh some people have made may have seen me drive before um but this thing was one of a kind when you get in there you can you can feel um how unique it is uh everything's kind of on that digital pad that they have. It's like a little iPad or just like a touchscreen that you can put it in drive and reverse and neutral and everything.
And then from there, it has some pickup. It has some pickup, man.
It's got those electric EV batteries in there. And the kids did an unbelievable job.
And I think it was a smooth ride into the stadium the other day it definitely doesn't have the rumble and there's something that that like obviously the old school gear heads you know they're gonna want but i think there's something really cool that operation breakthrough is doing where they're they're taking these older vehicles they're teaching these kids some of the things that is the automotive industry is going into and teaching them skills that not everybody really knows what's happening especially in the ev world so it's it's it's really cool um and on top of that it's just i mean it's just beautiful they did a great job with it it's gorgeous in there they have all the electric stuff but they also have the old school knobs and whatnot and oh yeah yeah very true to like kind of the way it used to be so yeah the seats yeah yeah this is the this is the first year that um that the kids who started in the initial uh ignition lab year so that they're going to be seniors going into college yeah they're all graduating so it's um it's a pretty cool uh to see kids you know start as freshmen and really latch on to things and And now even going to college, you know,

getting an opportunity to be an architecture major

and things like that in college.

And it's just so cool, man.

That's why you do it.

Well, no, that's why you do it, Travis.

That's why you do it.

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That's awesome. I love you, big.
I appreciate it, man. And a shout out to ignition lab and operation breakthrough for, for just being the awesome opportunity for these kids that they are, man.
Well, I drove in a 69 Chevelle. Jason, you wrecked

a helmet.

Yeah. Driving around in a little golf

car. It's okay.
It made

it out all right. It passed the concussion test.

Oh, yeah. Look at this, dude.

Look at that. Cruising.

You're hilarious. Cruising, baby.

You're literally the Philadelphia

mascot, dude. We literally stopped traffic to do these

shoots, which I'm just like, this is... It's going to be a fun bit it's a fun bit it's good i love it man have you seen this golf cart before yeah so the eagles have this one they also have a throwback one like a kelly green version of it yeah uh kind of they kind of live in the stadium and we thought it'd be funny so we're gonna use this footage not this one but we're going to use this

footage in conjunction with the late night show gosh i just took that one swerve a little bit

too hard and i couldn't of course correct oh no dude yeah that that can get dicey no for sure yeah

i mean i stuck my arm out it could have gone real bad it could have gone horrendously bad i've

actually seen this go real bad like broken hand bad on a golf course. You were on pavement.
It's pavement. So, I mean, it's nice and soft.
You know, golf courses are pretty hard with all that grass. Well, thank God you came out unscathed, man.
I got those wheels up and I was like, oh, dear, here it goes. I can feel it coming.
Big man. But luckily, I had my helmet on and came out unscathed.
Hilarious. Came out unscathed.
Oh, nice. Dad always told us to wear helmets.
He did. Whenever you're riding your bike, your scooter, you're going to have a helmet on.
Rollerblading. Hey, put a helmet on.
Those helmets with the wings on them have been protecting me for a while. So good.
Fly eagles fly, baby. Well, we're all glad you're okay.
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That's right. Chiefs, 19.
Chargers, 17.

Man, come on.

What's going on?

Speak to me, Trav.

Some good old-fashioned AFC West Division football, baby.

Oh, you ain't lying.

I think the Chargers are a fucking hell of a goddamn football team.

Harbaugh has got those guys playing their tail off,

playing with a lot of heart.

Chiefs with another one-score win,

another one that came down to a field goal.

Yeah, let's get right into the doink. So, new kicker.
Matthew Wright from Lancaster PA. Lancaster PA? He's a PA guy.
Yeah, he's right around in birds country. You know what? I don't think so, but he kind of has that.
It's pretty easy to tell. He looks like maybe one of them that just walked out of the barn and said, I'm good.
Double doink. Well, not double doink.
Doink in. Double doink.
You're going to go there? Matt Nagy? You're going to go there? You fucking. That was a low blow, man.
It's like Cody Parkey. All right.
Let's get to the last drive. Pat starts wheeling and dealing.
This is the worthy throw. Dancing around.
Big third down conversion on the third and 10. Oh, we're going to go into this.
Look at this. We're going to talk about some protections.
Good job. Oh, man.
P. Rye.
Listen, we just talked about Derwin. Listen, Derwin's not fucking around, man.
When he blitzes, he's taking the back straight on. He's done that to guys all year.
And not that he got put on his tail, but, I mean, that was a football. No, I respect the hell out of this.
This is football right here. Yeah.
P-Rod freaking, look at that. Throwing their bodies in there.
Yeah. Pat steps to the left, drifts.
It's worthy for the first down. I mean, that was the biggest play of the game potentially right there next to this one there we go we get a little boot action trav it's been well recorded that you're supposed to keep running that corner route you decide to sit well recorded what you just what supposed to run a corner travis everybody said you were supposed to run a corner who's everybody everybody that was i think pat said it i'm pretty sure pat's fuck no but seriously obviously you know what makes you sit right here i mean corner over top you know the corner is not gonna be open i mean that corner the the corner the corner is actually playing the flat this is cover two and there's you got to think of like the voids in cover two like the the voids are sidelines and yeah the whole shot in between the safety in the corner the whole shot in between the safety down the sideline i felt like i couldn't beat that safety there like the leverage on you outside yeah the angle like wasn't like a sheer catch um so i started to just kind of like turn my shoulders uh square it up to pat and um sure enough And just kind of like felt that void.
I knew where the hook to curl defender was. He then like chased Pat because Pat looked like he was about to run.
Yep. And I was just like, let me just kind of fill that void.
Setting this void. Yeah.
Pat made an unbelievable play to keep it alive, making that first guy miss. And then sure enough, man, 1-5 is always going to find the open guy, man.
Trev catches it kneeling. Doesn't even try to get up.
Knows he's got the game won. Just ball security.
Don't do any. Don't drop the baby.
Just hold on to that thing. I knew the hit was coming, too.
I was like, the safety's right behind me. When's it going? Where's it at? Where's it at? Yep.
You know somebody's coming. And yeah, that sets up the game winning field goal attempt, which, you know, pretty close one.
They're all hard, though, when the game's on the line. And pulled a little Tim Duncan action.
Goes off the left upright and in. Banks open on Sundays, baby.
There we go, baby. Yeah, what does this feel like? I'm a big fan of just scoring touchdowns, man, and forcing the other team to have to score touchdowns um but i understand not even giving them a chance and uh and that's a very high percentage field goal right there i think we're sitting at like 20 yards 30 yards or something like that yeah it is what it is i'm uh i'm always here for what the team's decision is that's why i didn't even think about getting up i knew the situation we were in and what we were going to want to do once we got the first down was to kick a field goal and run the clock out yep so if that's what that's what the game plan is baby i'm all in yeah well we did find out that andy is not a game-winning field goal watcher we have a clip of this oh you know this no superstitious or just doesn't want to watch yeah the crowd will tell him look at this Look at the smile.
Yeah, baby. Yeah, baby.
Oh, man. You're my guy Pacheco back out there rolling downhill, man.
Him and Big Red having a fucking good time after this one. Division game, man.
Division on the line. Won the division for the, what, whateverth year against a really fucking good Chargers team.
You can't tell me that Justin Herbert isn't one of the best fucking quarterbacks in the national football league man dude he's balling this year he's had some games he can sling that pill i mean he's balling every year it feels like with harbaugh getting there it feels like some of that swagger's back with that team you know the the leaders in that on that team the coaches coming in, Coach Minner, Coach Elston.

Our guys.

Elston's there too.

Rick Minner's there.

Rick was with me in Philadelphia.

Was he really?

Jesse's dad.

Yeah.

Nice.

I didn't know that.

He's a fellow Bearcat coach as well.

Yep.

But yeah, they got that thing figured out right now.

They're playing really, really good football, man. And they played us pretty goddamn tough both times we got them.
Absolutely, definitely. Pat had some postgame quotes.
I truly believe we are closer than we were last year at this point. I would agree with that.
I think that's a very good statement by Pat. I think at this point last year, you guys had just lost to us, and it was looking kind of down for the chiefs and you guys got it going i kind of think it is looking better i think offensively at this point last year it was we didn't even know that it was going to get worse we you know it's it it went all the way through christmas and we we were lucky we had two games after christmas to be able to it out.
But it was a different situation. I just think you guys have a good roster.
I think that, I'll be honest, and we've talked about it a little bit, I think the protections have been a thing that have thrown off the offense a little bit. I thought the protections were a lot better yesterday.
Humphreys looked good. I don't know what his hamstring looks like, but he did a good job at left tackle this last game.

He's came in the building and been a fucking all-star professional, man.

He's just been a high-energy guy, loves what he does,

comes in, shows how much he loves this game and how much he appreciates being in the situation to play football.

I just love the guy for that mentality and his hard work, man. It sucks that the first game he gets in, man, he gets the hamstring.
He'll be back. He'll be back regardless, even if he's back this week or whenever.
I think that's going to help out a lot of things because it felt like that's been something that's throwing off the timing and rhythm a little bit, and that'll help Pat out. It'll help everything out.
I do want to say this, though. Pat is nearly unstoppable.
It is so crazy watching him in watching him in two minute situations before the half you guys go and get a touchdown end of game when you need to get a drive together he somehow finds a way to convert and move the ball down so you guys are in field range why are you guys just not always a two point just run two point offense like what are we even doing running the rest of the offense like i don't even know why we're wasting time a little up tempo it does you know what up just be Two minutes. Not even.
Two minutes. You can even huddle.
Just huddle. Just go do two minutes like i don't even know why we're wasting time a little up tempo it does you know what up just be two minute not even two minute you can even huddle just huddle just go do two minute just tell pat before every drive pat hey we got two minutes left we just started the game all that sounds good all that sounds good until you know the thing is is when you go two minute it's typically a little bit more basic plays right it's kind of like set plays, the thing is, is when you go two minute, it's typically a little bit more basic plays, right? It's kind of like set plays.
The defense is running very simple defenses and it kind of simplifies everything from what you're seeing. For sure.
I can find voids easier. I can, you know, I see what the defense is in before the snap because they can't dick around at the line of scrimmage or give us a crazy look at the line of scrimmage while we're in two minute right yeah so it's just it definitely makes the game easier but at the same time you can't do that shit all game that shit will get fucking stopped in a heartbeat if you do that shit all game i don't know i haven't seen anybody stop pat yet might be worth trying i'm just saying just let that go out there being point guard you ain't lying man patty mahomes baby the, baby.
The Big Yeti got another milestone. Travis Kelsey became the fastest tight end in NFL history.
172 games to reach 12,000 career receiving yards. Previous record was held by none other than Tony Gonzalez in 210 games.
LeBron stayed a real stat. God damn.
I think that's a pretty real stat. He played 210 games? Well, got he played more than that it took him 210 games to get the 12 000 dude career receiving yards he ended with 15 000 so he played a lot of games tony played a lot of games that's that's almost 40 more games well i mean listen that's a lot more games Fuck Again, Tony played more than 210 Tony played, I mean, listen, that's a lot more games.
Fuck. Again, Tony played more than 210.
Tony played, I mean, he got 15,000. Yeah, that was, yeah, that's insane.
Tony's longevity is insane. How did he fucking do it? God damn.
I remember he had like some type of protein that I used to take. Maybe that was it.
He was into spearfishing. Maybe he was harnessing the power of the sun.
I think he was. There you go.
270. One with the co-host.
That's so many games. That's crazy.
It's crazy. How many did he play all together? Can we get that thrown up there real quick? It says right here.
He played 270 regular season games. He played a whole hundred more than what I'm at right now.
Yeah. It's outrageous no it's uh you oh my gosh no fucking chance built different i mean that's so impressive dude he got i'm pretty sure he got into the league before he was 21 and then on top of that he played until he was 30 say 36 37 oh he played longer than 36 37 um i don't know man pretty sure it's only like 17 years Yeah.
Insane is what he did. He, he played longer than 36, 37.
I don't know, man. You don't think so? Like 17 years, yeah.
Insane is what he did. He's 48 now.
Why? Why did we need to know that? We're trying to do some math. When did he retire? You could just look up.
He retired with the Falcons when? Right before they went to the Super Bowl. You're probably right.
About 38 years old, right? 37, 38? Yeah. 7, 13, 11 years.
Yeah, you're 1,000% right. All right, I'll stop talking.
Either way, unbelievably impressive. The Chiefs have now won the AFC West for nine straight seasons.
Before we move on I it's so funny being on this list on these lists with Tony because it every single time I it puts in perspective what he actually did when he was in the National Football League yeah and it's fuck it'll never be touched it's a much different league too there's no way there's no way it's like it's it's so fucking mind-blowing that he did that and back when football was football i mean he did it you could literally get your head taken off he played that long in a league where there was two a days during training camp the you know the hitting they would take your head off as a safety i remember that dawkins' clip on Algie Crumpler. Dude, what? That was legal.
Crackbacks? You better be. That is check.
You can do that. They used to actually teach you head on a swivel.
I don't even think they teach head on a swivel. My first.
Because it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter.
You don't even need to have a head on a swivel. There's no repercussions.
Nope. If you get.
Just run around aimlessly. It's a penalty and a fine and a hefty fine at that.

Back when they were just in AstroTurf,

which is just a carpet rolled over fucking cement.

You remember playing on Lakewood High School?

Yeah.

That had the AstroTurf.

That was outrageous.

The worst.

These guys played whole NFL careers on them.

They would tell everybody to bring gym shoes instead of cleats.

Yeah.

Like, dude, yeah, you have to bring basketball shoes.

No.

Have you ever run on your carpet in your living room?

That's exactly what this is.

Baseball diamonds.

Everybody had a joint stadium with the baseball teams.

You're just talking about the vet.

Absolutely insane, man.

Football was crazy back in the day.

Yeah, well, it's still pretty crazy.

You know what else is crazy is the Chiefs have won the AFC West nine straight seasons. Yes, sir.
Dude, this is outrageous. I mean, talk about domination.
Sorry to the rest of the AFC West, but this is unbelievable. The last time Kansas City didn't win the division, Patrick Holmes was still playing college baseball.
It's pretty funny. That's a great fucking stat.
That's a LeBron stat if I've ever heard of it. That's funny as hell.
Nice. We'll talk about perspective.
Week 15, Travis is headed back to the 216. That's right.
They take on the Browns. Yes, sir.
And potentially the greatest soundbite quarterback of all time, James Winston. You excited for the homecoming? I am, man.
I am, man. You know, we're Cleveland guys to heart and to the core.
So I played there once, and I am so excited to be able to get back there. It was a dream come true playing in front of Cleveland.
You've only played there once? Yeah, man. I've only been back when it was first energy.
Dude, I went to that game. Somehow I was able to go to that game.
Kareem Hunt was his first year with the Browns. He had just been with the Browns he had just been with the browns no no no you guys still kareem that's what it was it was a double comeback to kareem had three touchdowns and i had two got it yeah it was a it was a i remember cream type of day yeah but yeah it was uh it was it was a dream come true to score in the end zone and be right there in front of the dog pound.
A little different catching some birds, some middle fingers and some boos and some barks from the enemy side of perspective. But I still love Cleveland for it, man.
And it's such an honor playing back in Cleveland. And it's going to be a fun day, man.
It's going to be a fun day, and hopefully we can go in there and get into a dog fight with the dog pound and have some fun, man. Well, intern Brandon's going to be in attendance.
Does that add any additional pressure to this game? No. Love Brandon, though.
Thanks for coming, man. That's cool.
Why are you going to be in Cleveland, Brandon? Why not? Why do you sound like that? Why wouldn't you say it like that, Jason? What the fuck was that for? A beautiful December in Cleveland. Are you kidding me? Can we stop? You see how fast I flipped that on you, Jason? You see how fast I just judoed you.
Just fucking put you in a blender. Can we explain why we're actually going to be in Cleveland now? A friend of a friend has a connection to the Browns.
I was like, do you just want to go to the Browns game? I was like, sure, fine. I'll do 36 hours in Cleveland.
There you go. Where are you staying? No, just neighborhood.
We're staying close to the stadium. We're staying close to the stadium.
So you're going to stay downtown? Yeah. Downtown.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. What should I do? What should I do? I have 36 hours.
Dude, check out the art museum. great natural history museum actually really one of the rock and roll history museum yeah yeah uh the science museum is downtown to this it's like the uh the rock and roll museum is phenomenal there's been a lot of museums okay big time museum tour big museum big museum people all right yeah i'll do a museum tour i'll report back next week nice oh this is a fun time of year because great lakes has come out with their christmas ale yeah make sure you go to a restaurant that is serving great lakes christmas it's a very ohio thing they put like this like spice thing on the rim you're gonna enjoy it it's very good go over there to oh City.
You actually just go to the brewery. They do it at the brewery.
Just go to the brewery. Just go over there to Ohio.
Just go to the source, get underneath the tab, you'll be fine. It'll definitely be there, but I'm a big fan of the Christmas sale.
You can also always hit a town hall right next door. One of my favorite spots in Cleveland.
Ooh, okay. Great Lakes, Town Hall.
All right, I'll be there.

I'll have a bunch of those, and I'll go jump in the dog pound.

Go check it out.

There's so many places that...

Jason, just come.

Just show up.

You show up everywhere.

Just drive your little helmet car over and just show up.

I mean, I was going to spend maybe some days with my kids this week,

but you know what?

Fuck it.

I'll go.

They have so much time.

You have so much time with that. Jesus.
Delivery on that line. Just show up.
It'll be all right. All right.
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Get started with your free trial at wondery.com slash plus. All right, let's get to some Eagles-Panthers, man.
The birds are flying around, man. Initial thoughts on the game, Jason? Well, they got the nine straight.
It was not the cleanest game for the Eagles, but they found a way to win.

And I think that right now they're – listen, they've been playing so good

and the level has been so high of everybody's excitement for this team.

I actually think it's really good that this game was close

and they got brought back down to earth.

The Panthers have been doing this to a lot of teams recently.

Bryce Young is playing a lot better, made a hell of a lot of plays scrambling and making plays down the field. Oh, I know.
They've been playing teams close, including one of the teams in the AFC West. So I think this is all in all, obviously happy the Eagles got a win, and I think that they'll get out of this game and they got nine straight yeah I mean it's hard to win football games right now they're sitting at 11 and 2 so it was a lot of fun it's also fun to actually go to a game I haven't been to a game really that many this year oh nice you went to it yeah we went to it we took the kids um what I know dude it was awesome it was awesome how was uh how were the girls at the games? They enjoy them? They were great.

They didn't give one crap about the football game, but they had a blast eating a bunch

of food and popcorn and running around all over the place like crazed lunatics.

So yeah, it was really cool.

What is this text?

Yeah, we were on a group chat text, me, Jake, and Brandon.

Yeah, this is on the Leggett.

Looked like he caught in and rolled into the end zone on their last drive. Yeah.
And yeah, I think everybody in the stadium before you saw the replay thought it was a touchdown because he came up with it pretty clean. And Jake said this.
Holy shit, that was close. You replied with butthole puckered up a bit, huh? Yeah.
You got to have a loose caboose, man. You got to keep your composure.
You can't pucker up. Listen, I don't play anymore.
So now I just sit there and my butthole puckers because I have zero control. If I have control, I'd have a loose butthole.
But because I don't have control, my puck hole gets tight. That's the way it works.
Well played. Biggest story coming out of the eagles game are unfortunately comments from aj brown yeah when asked about the issues facing the offense he simply said passing he thinks passing is uh is the issue um also admitted that it's incredibly tough for the receivers to get into a rhythm when the offense is only passing the ball 20 times a game succinct well aj i don't know if you know this but uh saquon barkley is arguably the mvp in the nfl um handing him the ball a lot is kind of like a really good thing it is yeah no it works i understand you're really good too and uh getting you the ball a lot is a really good thing.
Yeah. I mean, personally, I just think, you know, listen, he's frustrated after a game, right? Yeah.
They barely beat a team that they know they should have performed better. There's been a lot of stuff made about this comment from AJ.
A lot of stuff made about Jalen's comment about like offense and like synchronization and whatnot. and ultimately I just think it's two guys that are frustrated after a game in which they didn't meet the standard that they hold for themselves.
And they know the offense doesn't meet the standard that it holds for itself. And unfortunately, we live in a day and age, and we both know this very well, where things that you say, you know, I don't know how long AJ sat there and talked to reporters, but it's probably like 10 minutes, I bet.
And this is the only thing that really trends, right? All the other stuff that gets said doesn't. Yeah.
The reality is when you're frustrated after a game, sometimes, you know, you're answering things in a heated moment. And I know I've been there.
I know everybody I've damn near played with has been there. And this is what happens when you have highly competitive individuals that know that they can be contributing more or know that the offense can be better than it is or that the team can be better than it is.
There's also BG had some comments. I know AJ Brown is a tremendous teammate and a guy that I loved being on the same team with.
He's a guy that's highly competitive and wants to win and have an impact on the game. And I think that that's what you want in a star receiver or player in general of that caliber.
I know Jalen Hurts operates in a very similar fashion. They've also played a lot of ball together.
They played a lot of ball in the NFL. Nick Sirianni is a great coach kellen moore has done a phenomenal job with the offense these are things that happen there was you know there was somebody saying like i think one of jaylen's comments was like should you be still figuring this out week 13 in the nfl and he said no and i understand why he said that because like you know you're you're almost to the playoffs we should be getting have everything dialed in but the reality is you're always figuring this out this is the way the league works like you're even no matter where you're at you're constantly trying to iron things out make things better that's the only way you become one of the best teams in the nfl that's the only way yeah is by the continually going through that process yeah like you just said this team has an identity right now and that identity has been running the ball with Saquon Barkley and exposing the secondary when they commit to stopping that run and they have all of those pieces able to do that I understand that balance is going to help that's just the reality I think as an offense you want to have balance but I really like where the identity has been for the most part it's been really good and has led to them beating.
I mean, they just beat the Ravens, right? One of the best teams in the NFL in Baltimore. I know they're frustrated with this game, but let's not lose sight.
The defense is playing lights out. We're one of the best teams in the NFC and all of these guys are really, really good.
I tend to think that these comments and all this media stuff is only going to bring these guys closer together. That's where I look at it.
When stuff like this happens, I think that these guys are going to be galvanized because they realize how good they are. Kellen Moore and all these guys are going to keep growing this offense to be the best dialed in machine it can be by the postseason.

And I'm very excited for where all this stuff is headed.

Unbelievable talent on that football team, especially on the offensive side.

Only one football, Bob.

You only got one ball to get it around.

And whether you're running it, you're throwing it, it's going to one guy.

Unless you're lateral.

Then it goes to two guys. Yeah.
Well, yeah. And that's why I lateral.
Because I'm just trying to spread the love, man. You got to spread the love, man.
We got to get Saquon lateral into AJ. Get this thing going.
Get this thing going. Sirianni, let's go, baby.
Anyways, my man Grant Calcaterra caught his first touchdown pass in the nfl this week dude i so not only was this video of his family going nuts it kind of went viral here we go check him out check him out nice nice well it looks just like him so that would add up i was about to say uh yep were they watching this again in the uh in the bar after the game i thought that was him not only were these guys going nuts on the uh video but i uh went down on the field afterwards and saw he had a bunch of family that was there his dad was there his mom was there nice and everybody was fired up about grant getting his first touchdown pass this is one of the guys too that like the whole team gets fired up about when they get their first touch like dallas got us out grant's actually had a number of like big seam catches he's he's having a really good year for the eagles um especially as a pass catcher and he's been a guy that's always gone in there and done the dirty work over the last couple years, doing slice blocks, running counters, doing all the stuff that no other tight end wants to do. Whenever a guy like that gets rewarded and all of a sudden is catching a touchdown pass, I think that's something that everybody gets fired up about.
Fires you up, baby. Hell yeah.
Including his football family, not just his regular family. Nice.
Congrats, Grant. Yeah, it was awesome.
Hopefully the first of many for you, brother. Yeah, baby.
Yeah, next week the Eagles are hosting Mr. Unlimited Russell Wilson and the Steelers.
Probably worth noting that the last time the Eagles played the Steelers, A.J. Brown had six catches for 156 yards

and scored three touchdowns.

So, yeah, maybe it's time to go back.

Maybe we should pass the ball.

Maybe it's time to go back to throwing that thing.

That's what A.J., he just knew we were playing the Steelers next week.

So he's like, all right, I'm going to put this out there.

I'm going to set this shit up right now.

I'm going to put this out there right now.

We need to work on passing.

Yeah.

Yeah, I like that. We did a voicemail question about the Steelers that we are going to answer.
Are we doing that now? Or is this having an invoice? We're doing it now. Hey, fellas, this is Patrick from Pittsburgh.
Long-time listener, first-time caller. Two quick questions.
First one's more so for Travis. Travis, as the greatest tight end to ever ever play the game what is your honest opinion of pat fryer move second what is it like to be standing on the field at acroshore stadium in the fourth quarter whenever they play renegade oh talk to you guys later bye dude there we go so first of all it's heimsfield i'll never not call it he Heinz Field.
I'm not dealing with this nonsense. You only get one stadium name when it first comes out that I'm sticking to it.
I'm over the corporate name and renaming. It's over.
It's Heinz Field. You don't like Arrowhead and G-E-H-A Stadium.
Just like I don't care who pays for Jacobs Field's name. It's Jacobs Field.
I don't give a fuck what you call that thing. It's progressive.
No, it's not. It Jenkins field that's where dude that's where Arrowhead gets it right because it's always the G-ha at Arrowhead so Arrowhead always remains the same name I can't deal with this like I'm not whatever G-ha I'm not doing I'm not doing it I'm not I'm, you can't – Heinz Field is a fucking special.
They had the tomato ketchup bottle going down. Like, what are we talking about? So good.
It is such a special place to play, man. And I'm pumped I get to play on Christmas out there, man.
So anyways, listen, as my professional 13-year career and nothing to do with tight end play,

I think Pat Friermuth is a hell of a tight end.

I think he's doing a tremendous job.

Nice.

He asked me that question.

He needs to work on his footwork a little bit.

Shut the fuck up.

He is not clumsy-footed at all.

Sometimes when I watch him play, he looks like a Friermuth. He looks like a Friar South, not a Friar Muth.
I don't even know where the fuck I'm going with this. All right, you take him.
Go ahead, Drew. I see you're trying to have some fun with it.
No, Pat is actually one of my favorite tight ends to watch, man. He's savvy in his route running.
He's very quarterback friendly, which he knows angles coming out to where he knows he can get a guarantee catch and quarterbacks fucking love it when you come out of your breaks with certain angles, depending on where the defender closest to you is. You come out at an angle specific to the leverage of the defender, not just running the route that's on the paper.
Exactly. And he does a great job of feeling voids like that and feeling how he needs to get in and out of breaks.
And then on top of that, he's just a tough football player, man. I think he embodies the Steeler kind of way to play, which is like that steel curtain, that toughness that you got to play with, man.
He's willing to, you know, stick his face in the fan and do whatever he needs to do for his team, man. I think he, yeah pittsburgh like toughness like when i think of pittsburgh tight ends i think of like heath miller oh yeah he and when he used to catch the ball he would just have him and big ben were always on the same fucking page they would fuck they would just like in the middle of a run he'd just give like miller a fucking wink and he'd just run like a little seam route and he just quick 10 yards just fucking truck everybody now don't get me wrong they're two completely different players but they do have that same Pittsburgh toughness but um yeah what is it about those those like tough fan bases right future brave future what is it about those fan bases that really love tight ends I think you're onto something because when think – I thought of the same thing with everything you were just saying.
I thought of Heath Miller. When I think of Pittsburgh, I think about tight ends.
Honestly, when I think about the Eagles, I think of tight ends. I certainly think about tight ends with Kansas City.
Who's your favorite Eagles tight end? My favorite Eagles tight end? Don't make me do this. Don't make me do this.
Come on. I'm not doing this.
Because I got too many buddies. I got close close friends i can't pick one or the other all right all right mine's zekert's but i do love i can't wait to tell selic you just said that he's gonna be so pissed at you chad lewis is another favorite of mine chad lewis i should have just gone pre my teammate years in you know yeah anyways so many good ones man so many good ones selzy come on we already know he's at the top of the list yeah i think uh i think the second part of the question i don't even remember answering oh the renegade right that is oh my muhammad fear from the long time of the lord if you're if it's a really close game you feel that yeah like tension build in the stadium.
It's pretty dope. If it's the other way around, then you don't really feel it like that.
Yeah, but usually their defense is really good. Their defense is really good, so usually it is close, so usually you feel it a lot.
Yeah. And the whole stadium gets into it.
This is another thing that Ryan Clark pointed out to me when we were there. Everybody wears their team's jerseys,

but it feels like Pittsburgh is even like that on 1,000.

I don't think anybody goes to that game without wearing

an actual Pittsburgh Steelers jersey.

They all wear the jerseys throughout the day in the city.

I don't know, man.

I think Arrowhead is very – I mean, I see a lot of jerseys in there.

Pretty crazy the amount of Steelers fans that were in legitimate jerseys at the game. I think that's something that they – that's like a thing.
I mean, every fan base wears jerseys, but a lot of jerseys in Pittsburgh. So especially when Renegades go in, it's – I don't know what it is about – I just – I think it was growing up wearing black and gold at Cleveland Heights.
I mean, that's Cleveland Heights. Black and gold has always been a favorite.
I recognize it more. I don't know what it is is i don't know if everybody's good color combination black and gold is just a good color combo it's so good it's so good and then you add that that cool fucking old school steelers logo in there like so iconic what's what are the what are your favorite color combos of teams my like black and gold is one of them i'll say this i love i've always loved the color green not just because i'm an eagles fan i just love the color green yeah one of my favorite color combos i don't have anything to do with the team oakland a's the green and yellow is just a it is a awesome dude like i know i mean green bay packers but i for for some reason, that Oakland A's hat, it just stands out as one of the coolest.
It slaps. Yeah, it's just a dope hat.
They're the Sacramento A's now. I think of the same thing with the Supersonics.
Soon to be the Vegas A's. Oh, they're moving now, too? Oh, yeah.
They're out of there. Everybody's leaving Oakland for Vegas.
It's unfortunate, man. Oakland, it's a beautiful sports town sports town yeah maybe it is just green and yellow because i thought of the supersonics jerseys and like stuff like those are some dynamite freaking i think they're trying to bring a team back the nba team back to seattle too what's what's another what are your favorites my favorites um i'm an old school calves and 90s 90s i knew.
I knew you were going to go there. I fucking love this combo.
Are you talking about blue and orange? Are you talking about... I kind of like the blue and black.
I like the splash jerseys, the one where it looked like they had paint going across their jerseys. I got you.
You know what I mean? Like that very end of the Mark Price years, the Sean Kemp years, the 96, 97, 98. They had the blue and black on those ones.
Those are my favorite too. I think I'm with you on that.
I love those ones. There's something about blue and black where it kind of clashes, but it works.
Then the hint of that orange, it has that orange in there. I'm a big orange guy too.
Is that because of the Browns? Are we just subliminally been affected our whole lives? We have. That was one thing.
Like, I like Broncos jerseys because I like brown. I like the color orange.
I just like oranges. Yeah.
Like Orioles. Orioles have a good color combo because I like the orange.
I don't know what it is. Orioles are another good one right there.
I think I just like it. Like the Pirates are black and gold.
This is all just comes back to our childhood. Penguins.
Yeah. Does everybody else feel this way or is it just us? I don't know.
Talk to us 92 percenters. And that does it for for catching up with the Eagles and Panthers.
Shout out to the Eagles for finding a way to get a win against a sneaky good team. And thank you for your voicemail, man.
I'll be excited to hear renegade in the fourth quarter on christmas all righty let's hit a little bit more from uh the biggest stories from week 14 in the nfl starting going on this week yeah starting with the gambling dan campbell a lot of talk about dan campbell declining to kick and keeping his offense on the field on fourth and one up three at at the Green Bay 21 with 43 seconds left. I don't, I mean, listen, fourth and one, you go for it.
I'm a thousand percent in on Dan. And they're starting to see this.
We're going to get to the Rams game, but they did it on fourth and five. They were like, yeah, we can't give Josh Allen the ball back.
And I think that, you know, Dan's been criticized a little bit about those fourth down decisions last year in the playoffs. But this gambling Dan Campbell, man, that's why he has been where he's been.
These Lions win a lot of games because of these decisions and being aggressive and because they're a really good football team. Dude, there's just something that's so likable about this guy.
Dude, I think I've said it on here before. He was one of the guys was down at miami as a tight end coach yeah back in 2013 when i was coming out and i was like man i want to fucking play for that guy that guy seems like a fucking great coach he seems like he gets the best out of guys seems like he's all in tough son of a gun and um sure enough man you can see you know as the years go on how great of a coach he really is and how he can really embody, get guys to embody that toughness and play for him.
And yeah, it's a dagger when you see guys running the ball like this, big points in the game and converting it, even with their quarterback fucking tripping over his feet. God, that was crazy.
He got it done. Shout got a shout out to golf man hell yeah he found a way to hand that fucker off man golly more power to get your feet out the way o-line's got to do a job come on yeah also shout out to dan skipper i love i love that dan is just like there's always these sound bites that dan campbell gives towards skip Let's do it.
I told you, you'll never forget this game. You will never forget this game.
We don't have to talk about how tough we are. We don't have to talk about how resilient we are.
We live it, man. We've been living it.
Where's our defense at? Offense, that's the way to step up, man. That's the way to step up.
There you go, to step up there you go skip keep throwing up whatever you're doing how could you not love that guy i mean jesus just a football a football legend man hell yeah just exudes passion for his players for the sport freaking dan's over there giving it everything he's got. He's throwing up.
Gosh.

What a great freaking yeah they got a lot of great stuff going on green bay's got a lot of great stuff going on too they've been playing lights out and i mean that was a hell of a game to watch lions uh found a way to get it done against green bay but they got a huge one next week against the buffalo bills who just had a huge loss to the rams yes big loss a lot of people are saying game of the year maybe dude it was insane

i think it was a 42 44 like that's i mean that's a high powered two high powered offenses going at

it right there man it was it was it was what it was is high powered quarterback play these guys

were playing out of their mind matthew stafford and josh allen were going off the rams dominated

Thank you. right there man it was it was it was what it was is high-powered quarterback play these guys were playing out of their mind Matthew Stafford and Josh Allen were going off the Rams dominated the majority of the game I kind of hesitate to say that but they did they were winning for the majority of the game they're winning by more than one score the majority of the game Josh Allen in the second half was impressive to say the least he was scrambling he was making big throws whether it Mr.
mac hollands or uh what is it shakir um he was a man on a mission to come back and will the buffalo bills to victory and we just talked about the fourth down decision with dan campbell the fourth down decision by mcveigh in the 40 in the rams to go for it on fourth and five which ultimately led to a puka touchdown was actually absolutely enormous Hell of a route by Atwell coming across the middle of the field. Hits Atwell, then all of a sudden the Puka scores on a screen.
The very next play, Puka went off. That catch on the sideline? The toe tapper? What the heck? Dude, that dude is so good, man.
Yeah. Storm and Mormon, man.
Rams are coming on. Now that they're all healthy cup is back puka's back o-line is healthy matthew staver could still sling that ball my god demarcus robinson having a fucking hell of a year this year d rob man fuck i love you go demarcus go demarcus are the rams the nfc sleeper team or are they everybody nobody's sleeping on the Rams? I think that people might have been sleeping a little bit when they were injured, but I think everybody now is definitely not sleeping.
You know, Stafford and McVay have been proven to be very, very good. They can put up points with the best of them.
So, yeah, these guys are – now that they're all healthy, now that everybody's back, you can tell they're getting dialed in again. It's going to be interesting to see how the NFC West plays out, but the Rams are full bore.
And for some non-football news, how about that? Getting into some non-football news. Juan Soto just signed arguably the most ridiculous fucking contract I've ever heard in my life.
Oh, my that real yes i mean it's we're like five to ten years away from seeing a mlb player make or sign a like a billion dollar contract 15 years i remember when he was insane it's a 15 year that just seems like so outrageously long. How old is he? How old is Juan Soto? I think he's only 25.
He's under contract with the New York Mets until he's 40. The Mets? That's a big gamble.
That just seems so outrageous. And it's all guaranteed, right? Fully guaranteed, yeah.
Baseball's guaranteed. 41.
He's 26 right now. So he's under contract until he's 41.
How fuck this is good job i mean the baseball union i don't know how this they finagled this stuff but wow they've been around for years and years and they've been around for fucking over centuries together 15 years that seems like a joke you know what i mean like that just doesn't even i'm not sure if the 15 years or the 765 million dollars that comes with those 15 to me it's less of the 765 million i mean that's outrageous number you're expecting him to play as good as he's playing right now until he's 41 that's what just blows my mind i mean i in 15 years i guess the thought is in 15 years or even just in 10 years the salary cap is going to be drastically different because inflation and how that works. But it just feels like, I guess the thought is in 15 years, or even just in 10 years, the salary cap is going to be drastically different because inflation and how that works.

But it just feels like, I mean, it's

an outrageously long contract.

It's mind-blowing.

My mind can't really wrap my head around it.

Per Pat McAfee, he's going to make

$5,902 an

hour for the next 15 years. That's a pretty good

salary. God damn it.

It's pretty good. Pretty good pretty good congratulations juan soto yeah and he was i mean i got to see it live in action that dude is a fucking beast yeah he's really i mean there's a reason i mean he's region he's got paid 765 million dollars over the next 15 years yeah pretty good damn is it Is it a vanilla contract, though? How, like, what is it? Who knows? There's got paid $765 million over the next 15 years.
Yeah. Pretty good.
Damn. Is it a vanilla contract, though? What is it? Who knows? Is it deferred? There's got to be all sorts of stuff in there.
Is he getting paid until he's like fucking 80? There's got to be all sorts of stuff in there. All right.
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Before we get out of here, we're going to answer some not-dumb questions that came to the Heights Hotline. No-dumb questions.
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It's like that CGI, like... Live action? Yeah.
I love that shit, man. I'm so in on this.
I don't know what it is about movies where fucking animals are talking, but I love them. I don't care whether it's live action, whether it's cartoon.
I just fucking love them. Let's get to the first caller, intern Brandon.
First caller. What's up, boys? My name's Jason, and this is my question for hashtag no dumb questions.
Now, you guys have probably been asked this a thousand times, but what is the worst, and I mean the absolute worst place you could take a woman on a date? Like, bottom of the barrel, like, there's no way in hell you're getting a second date if you take a girl there. All right, now, boys, take care.
Nah, nah. I got a few coming to mind.
Anything that she has no idea was fucking going on yeah i don't know man what is the worst i've only thought of like good date ideas i've never thought of the worst date ideas i mean i feel like a lot of times it's really what you make of it and your attitude and stuff that really i feel like i can make anything shake maybe don't take her don't take her to the strip club i don't fucking know that's a good one definitely don't take her to strip club don't do that although some strip clubs do have really good wings i have heard yeah me too don't know anything about it i think i got something to go one time yeah strip club definitely don't take her to the strip club that's definitely the worst answer if she's not into sports don't take her to a fucking sports game no take her to a sports game if you're into it i don't there's nothing worse than trying to teach somebody about something that they don't want to be taught about well listen if she doesn't have the open mind to freaking go then you don't want to go on a second date with her it's okay nice i mean i'll go listen i i don't want to watch love actually but i'm going to watch it because kylie wants to watch it so we're going to watch love actually that's part of being an open-minded considerate partner it's a good point so i guess what we're trying to say is there's no real worst date it's just you know picking the right woman to go on the date with yeah the worst first date location is to take her to some place that you don't want to go. Like if you're the one activating it.
Boom. If you're saying, we're going here.
This is why we just had to find it out. Yeah, we found it.
Go someplace that you want to go that you think you're excited to take her. Yeah.
I think that's it. There you go.
There you go. Worst is the opposite of that.
You got it, Jason. All right.
Not you. Not you.
They owe it to Jason. Next caller.
Next caller. Hey, guys.
I was listening to this week's episode on my way to work. I'm about to go into the office.
And I was just wondering why no one in the NFL plays, does the annexation of Puerto Rico play for Little Giants. I hope you answer this because I've wondered it for a long time.
Thanks. Well, thank you for listening, first of all.
I appreciate you listening on the way into work. And I hope your day at work was that much better because you listened to us.
And because you asked about the annexation of Puerto Rico, I'll let you know right now that it is arguably the worst play that you could ever run in an actual football game. It works so perfect because there were kids and it was a movie.
There's no fucking way in hell. I will take this back.
I have seen it done in college games, and I don't think it ended up being a game winning touchdown, but it did get some yards. Can we?'t remember some of those one of it's where they snap it it's a fumble ruski put it they put the ball on the ground act like it's a toss yep and then somebody else picks it up puts it like i don't the center like sits on it like he's doesn't see where it's at something like that i gotta see if it's a legal play a legal play.
It's one of those old. It is a legal play for sure.
Okay. Maybe.
I'm not sure if the. I don't remember if the.
The formation. The formation.
The initial snap changes possession. Because it has to.
It has to actually be possessed by the quarterback. Yeah.
For it to count as a legal snap. Yeah.
Or to somebody. We've seen it happen a lot.
Some of these trick plays, like the annexation of Puerto Rico, or like a reverse pass or a funky formation. Some of them are just, it's the NFL.
Like the people, guys aren't getting fucking tricked. I mean, guys get tricked all the time, Travis.
I don't know, man. That's like you're a flanker.
Your entire career has been tricking people. Nope.
Not like that. Not like that.
Well, I think Travis is on to something. It's probably not a play that's going to work very well in the NFL.
Fun to watch in a movie. What's a kid's name that designs it in Little giants no idea yeah four eyes i can't say what that thing that's it's wrong character but that guy's awesome too no that's the same character no it's not what do you yes it is no it's not he's the he's like the coach essentially oh the fumble ruski all right well i need to go back and Little Giants again.
What are these for? So the guys at the morgue can identify our bodies. No, what are these for? Intimidation.
So fucking good. We got to remake Little Giants, man.
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