Freddie Freeman on World Series MVP, Ohtani Media Mayhem and His Surprising Backup Career | Ep 109

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And follow the show on all social media at New Heights Show with one S. This is a very, very, very, very special episode of New Heights because today we've got World Series champion joining us.
That's right. Jason, please do the honors as you always do.
Tell the people who we have on the show today.

Of course, Trav. Our guest today is from Fountain Valley, California.

He's an eight-time Hall Star,

NL MVP, two-time

All-MLB first team.

He's won a Golden Glove,

a Babe Ruth Award, the NL

Hank Aaron Award, and he is now

a two-time World Series

champion. Please welcome Mr.
Freddie Freeman. Yes.
Oh, yeah, baby. Don't forget that 2024 World Series MVP, Majority.
Yeah, I appreciate you guys. Thank you.
I like that hype right there. Oh, yeah.
You got to have to bring it in with the energy, baby. Yeah.
It's kind of – I still haven't really, like, have time to sit and even, like, kind of take it all in. It's been kind of a whirlwind.
I did Jimmy Kimmel last night doing parades, trick-or-treating with the kids. Yeah.
It's nuts. But it's pretty cool, man.
Like, this is what, I mean, you know, you guys know, this is what you start out to do every single year when you show up for us in spring training. And it's so hard to win championships, as you as you guys know.
To actually have it happen, a lot of things have to go right. Health has to be on our side.
You've got to be fortunate in that, yeah. Yeah, we were fortunate.
We were playing really good baseball at the end. So to get another one, especially I'm from Southern California, so to have one where you're from, it's pretty special.
Fuck yeah, man. That's just got to be awesome.
I mean, if if you're a big enough badass health doesn't even have to be on your side you just play through everything it sounds like seriously man sometimes okay the first couple rounds i wasn't playing so good but uh yeah health was not on my side but we were able to push it through and ultimately when you do push your body through things and you come out on the other side of six with success it just kind of makes everything that much sweeter of course of course does this one top the uh top the first one ah you know i've been asked that it's i don't like comparing sure understandable well your first one's always special and that group of guys that we had with the braids um was pretty amazing I don't know. I think just because my dad was able to see so much of these games since we're all from Southern California, I wouldn't say – I mean, championships are championships.
Fuck yeah, they are. They're both the best.
And the next one is going to be even that much better than the others. I don't know.
Yeah, baby. It's hard to compare them.
But two great teams I got to be a part of and hopefully with my time with the dodgers this is first of many but i just love that man's mindset what's the first thing you did after you won when you got home like what is uh well that's the crazy thing we still we went on getaway day uh so we had to fly we left yankee stadium at 3 a.m got to the airport and we and we flew home. So we landed at like 9.30 in the morning.
Perfect. All day.
There you go. Which is Halloween.
And we had to get the kids. I had to get Iron Man, Hulk, and Spider-Man ready to roll.
There you go. Dad mode right away.
Yeah. Immediately into dad mode.
And we had a blast. And then we had the parade the next morning.
We flew the Patriots plane home, actually. They let us have the Patriots plane.
Shout out to Robert Kraft. There you go.
And so we were going to have a big party on the plane. And within an hour, everyone was asleep.
Yeah, right? Because it's 5 o'clock in the morning. And we're just like, when you give everything you have, you're exhausted after these games.
And then we celebrated in the clubhouse, and you have to do all the interviews, media. That clubhouse, it looked fucking rocking in there.
There was a lot of energy being released in there, yeah. There was a lot.
And you just kind of spent, you know? You were spent. And so we thought, we were like, oh, we'll just keep it going on the plane, within an hour i was asleep i woke up after an hour everyone else is asleep and i was like yeah we'll wait for it after the parade to go we'll try this again everybody just smells like champagne yeah that's a smell of success you know just beer and champagne being tossed on everybody you don't really like the taste of it, but you're just pouring it in.
Yeah, listen. This is what we worked hard for to go through this.
I don't care if I like it. I love this.
I don't care if my eyes can't see anything because it's burning so bad, but I'm going to do this. You got to go in with the correct eyewear, man.
Got to go in with those goggles next time. Some guys just want the burn.
You know, like Kershaw, he wants the burn.

Some guys love that stuff.

I had LASIK.

These things are very...

I need to protect these guys.

Yeah.

Pretty important for hitting a ball, no doubt.

Hey, happy birthday.

Oh, thank you, Freddie.

Yeah, man.

Dude, it's...

Where do you get up to now?

I feel like every birthday after like 35,

it can't mean...

I don't know.

It's just downhill, right? Like, I don't know. Sorry to anybody over.
Yeah, right? Now I just get excited for my kids' birthdays. Yeah.
Like, what do you want to do for your birthday, Dad? Are we celebrating this? Like, what are we going to eat? Some cake? The pancakes that try to be Mickey Mouse, you make them, and they don't end up being very good. Yeah, exactly.
Right. Before we had cc sabathia on and we were talking some uh some baseball with him going into the uh you guys and the uh and the yanks battling it out and uh he said that 30 percent of freddie freeman is better than 100 percent of anybody else in quotes that's what cc said man were you at 30 going into the World Series? I would say I was a little higher than that.
Nice. Nice.
Yeah. So we had a break between the NLCS and the World Series about five days.
And the first two rounds, it felt like, you know, here's the fence. I felt like I was always chasing the pain, trying to get on the other side of it.
Yeah. But those five days really helped me able to treat it really much really uh really well and i didn't run one time because i didn't want to flare the ankle up at all yeah so the first time i actually ran was an introductions into game one and as i was running i was like whoa i i think i can do this good feeling good yeah i'm giving high fives and i make it to the trainers because everyone gets introduced and everyone's so excited.
Like, did you like you're not limping for it? I said, I know this is great. But by the sixth or seventh inning of every game, like my heel would start to hurt where the Achilles attaches into the heel.
That's that's where it was starting to hurt because the spike of my cleat was going into my heel for sure that sucks by the sixth or seventh inning

it was kind of hurting but the adrenaline would take over by then but i would say i was probably

around above 50 because my rib was okay by then and i broke my finger too in august so that didn't

really help but things were yeah i had just so many energy and injuries it's just crazy we're

kind of talking about you have to be fortunate to be able to make these deep playoff runs man yeah and and you guys you guys were battle tested in that regard more than anybody in the league it seemed like yeah yeah we lost glass now you know kirsch came back and then got hurt again we lost gavin stone who was huge for us throughout the course of the year yeah we just we were just losing relievers left and right we lost evan phillips who was one of our better relievers all year right before the world series uh joe kelly got hurt we had a lot of unfortunate injuries but great teams overcome those kind of adversities and we were able to do that it seemed like we hit every speed bump possible on a, and we just somehow managed to overcome those. I might just be speaking out of mind here, but doesn't that make it seem like it's so much more of a family, of a team? When you can battle through those kind of things, it just seemed like you guys were so much more of a team than the Yankees, man.
And I don't know what – I'm not saying anything bad about what the Yankees had over there, but it just seemed the togetherness the camaraderie the chemistry it just seemed like you guys had a little bit more of that than than what was going on in the other dugout we had a lot we and it started early because you signed Shohei and he has everything that he had to deal with like when we were in Korea to start the year so yeah rallying around a new teammate that's quick and that as a group that fast i think it only helped us you know and you know if we can rally around shohei and help him get through the probably the toughest time that he's had to deal with then we could deal with all our other little things that we had to deal with and and then obviously with my family in late july them rallying around us it just we had a lot of things were as a group to rally around and it was so fast and so special to see the group of guys and how we came together over and overcame things. It's, we just had a lot that made us that close throughout the course of the year.
And unfortunately we had it really early on with Shohei and his thing, but sometimes that's better, you know, to kind of come together as a group that like we did. Yeah, man.
Adversity always brings people closer. Speaking of your family, your dad was a big part of this, right? Yeah.
He had a great, I thought probably the best quote I've seen in a while between like a dad and his son, Freddie, this is not worth it. I know you love baseball.
I love baseball, but it's not worth what you're going through. And your answer to him was, it only hurts when I miss.
So I'm just going to have to stop missing, which is perfect. That is so fucking good, dude.
It's so good. So that was NLDS.
I was going through a lot to play, obviously with my fractured rib and doing a lot of extra things with more than just treatment. So after the game three of NLDS, I got a call from my dad about like 11 o'clock at night.
And I had a talk like that with my father in a long time. And it was kind of just a little upset, you know, like, hey, you need to look out for yourself down the road.
And that was the first time I really took a step because I'll do anything to be on a baseball field I think anybody that knows me I'll just I put blinders on I'm gonna get out there yeah and that was the first time I was like okay well what take let's take a step back and I you know I'm married with three kids so like and that and I sat out the next game i sat out in lds game four i just

couldn't do it again i physically was just not able to put myself through what i was going through again i think when i hit the grand slam in the world series and he was front row i think he was i think he was happy i didn't stop yeah of course no doubt oh yeah thank god that guy didn't listen to me i listened to him a couple times but

yeah i think it's just special like i would when you go through all that that you for me to get on the field and then actually come up and be successful in the world series on the biggest stage it it made everything i did a couple weeks earlier worth it you know In my mind, we'll see how I am when I'm 55 or six years old.

Who needs ankles when you're 55, man? What are you kidding me? They'll put a replacement in there. You'll be good.
They're making all types of new shit. They'll probably have hydraulics in these things.
Coming up soon. We both grew up with a fucking amazing father um and he got us into everything man i'm talking about some baseball he coached us a lot in baseball and really all sports he was always kind of i think it's hard because i was always older so i was definitely better growing up but trav i played more competitively yeah at every like milestone and he was better.
So I would i would well i was i had the cheat code i was my debt and big ed calsey would go to all the teams that jason was on and he'd be and he'd be like hey just put this guy on your roster you never know when you're gonna need an extra body and sure enough i would play at least a handful of games two years older and i'm facing guys that are like yeah i always throw and throw a real i had two older brothers that's what made me so much you know made me be who I was too you know that's all it is you find a way to to get through it man but our uh our father was so responsible for our our love of sports our love of you know just competing how much was your dad responsible getting you into baseball oh I wouldn't be here without him yeah obviously I have two older brothers that love baseball too but obviously my dad is the one that loves baseball to the core nice was he always at dodgers uh no so we grew up actually in orange county so i grew up 10 minutes from angel stadium wow but my dad is from canada and he grew up a tigers fan because he grew up on in windsor ontario in canada so right right across the border so he was a big Tigers fan yeah fuck yeah that's right and then my grandfather moved to California so that's how we came to be in California but I grew up an Angels fan my favorite player was Garrett Anderson growing up just that left-handed beautiful sweet swing from the left side so hell yeah baby when people ask me like what advice do you have for my 10 year old i said it's not for the 10 year old it's for you the parent you know like my dad loved practicing and throwing batting practice and doing those kind of things with me every single day so so cool man when you have a parent that loves it just as much as i loved it it kind of match made in heaven So my dad was the one that led me to baseball. And then obviously I just loved it.
He was fueling that fire, man. Yeah.
And he's, he, you know, he still throws me batting practice to this day. Is that right? Really? Yeah.
In the off season. So like right now I'll take about two months off of baseball activities.
I start working out tomorrow, but baseball activities, I don't pick up until January and I'll go to my high school in Orange County and we'll go and spend an hour together. And I work out with him and he throws me batting practice.
He's 69 years old and he still throws. And the last two years, he goes, Freddie, I don't, I'm not very good anymore.
I said, but that's the thing. I said, dad, it's not about that.
It's about the hour we spend together. You know, like, I'll figure it out in spring training.
I hit every day there, but I just want to hit with you. And this is our thing, you know, and so cool.
Yeah. He's still throwing.
He's, he thinks he's not very good, but I think he's great. He's getting somewhere over the plate.
Hell yeah, man. Yeah.
That's so fucking cool, man. Yeah.
Well yeah well you you guys have shared a incredible moment

game one obviously walk off grand slam home run yeah how the fuck did that feel yeah yeah series bases loaded like what does that feel like yeah i bet i don't really remember i've kind of blacked out i can only imagine we're talking about it all the time I got really excited.

I can't remember the feeling it's but when they walked mookie intentionally which i knew they were going to left on left i just kind of you kind of figured the situation out and i i started replaying so i watched shohay's at bat against nestor cortez because every time shohay walks into box, the pitcher feels like he's backs against the wall. So I was like, what is he going to throw if he thinks his back's against the wall, which it was.
This is brilliant, man. Fuck.
Love this. And he was throwing cutters and sliders away to Shohei, and then, like, heaters in and up and in.
So I usually look away to just drive the ball to left center, and I was like, you know what, I'm going to switch this up and I'm going to look closer to me. So I don't swing at the cutter or slider away.
So I was looking heater in to like up and in. And I guessed right.
He threw it right in the spot I was looking. And I mean, you still got to hit it and you still got it because you can make you miss mistakes mistakes all the time but I just hit it and I knew it was gone right when I hit it you know those are the ones where you just hit and I don't know why I went Statue of Liberty or anything like that I just it was just because I don't like I don't pimp home runs I don't do that I just usually hit them and just run around the bases.
But that's one. That's one you style on.

Yeah.

That is one to style on.

That's the only style I got is walking and pointing my bat.

I got nothing else.

Dude, it was fucking awesome, dude.

Yeah.

And so I just ran around.

I mean, we got a picture sitting up right here, dude.

That is so fucking iconic, man.

It's so good.

Usually we wave at the bullpen.

But when we come around second base and we wave to our bullpen guys, they're going nuts. Nobody's even looking at you.
They're not in the bullpen anymore at that point. If it's a walk off, they're out in the bullpen.
That's why I just went like, ah, like screaming at them. And then I obviously got the home plate.
Miguel Rojas goes like, Freddie, stop jumping. Like, I don't want you to get hurt.
And if you see it, there's a i look at him and says i don't feel a thing and then i knew my dad was sitting front row because he was sitting right right in the front row of the seats and uh for some reason i don't know i just was like you know what i'm gonna share this with him so i ran over and just screamed in his face there was no no words no nothing and we were just screaming oh there was a lot said there was a lot said in that screen it was a lot of it was all understood it was an hour conversation in those two screens you know yeah i loved it it was just like you can't script it i mean bottom 10th world series yankees dodgers everyone's been talking about it all week and to walk it off and be the first one to do it on a Grand Slam, that was, you know, I wish I could remember that feeling, though. This is like a legit Kirk Gibson moment.
Like, this is crazy, man. It's unreal.
Kirk actually reached out and said congratulations. Oh, that's cool.
He's a good man. He does TV for the Tigers now, so I get to see him quite a bit.
The link together now is pretty special because he came out and hit that home run against Dennis Eckersley, and they won the World Series that year. But then Joe Davis calling that, couldn't have asked for a better call on that.
It's all all about the announcer sometimes if they nail it with the call it makes it that much better and luckily we have yeah we have joe davis at all year round and then to have him for fox too and that was special it's just everything just went perfectly together well i want to go back to what you were just talking about because i don't i love nerding out about out about, I guess, players process. So when you say you're looking in, what do you mean by like, you're still looking at the ball coming out of his hand though, right? Like, okay.
So I pick, so I'm a lane hitter. So let's just put a square up.
So usually I'm looking out or a third of the plate just so I can stay in and just line everything to left center. Cause I'm left-handed.
So instead I X that out because if I'm looking out there, I might swing out the cutter and slider going away from it. And I don't want to swing at that because that's just, I'm going to be dead if I do that.
So instead I looked on the inside part of the plate. So closer to me.
And so if I'm looking there, if anything's middle to middle away, I'll just check off of it. I won't even like attempt to swing at that.
Yes. And so that's why I went closer, because if he throws the cutter or slider in that lane, then it's going to end up middle middle.
Right. And then I can still hit that.
But I wanted to be bringing closer so I could be so I wouldn't have to swing at any pitches going away from me.'s why i did that that's brilliant yeah it's it's it's weird you know it's just it's just it's awesome i hear you it's it's a theory it's science in here you know yeah it sounds crazy when you talk about it it doesn't sound crazy it actually sounds awesome dude what were the reaction from the kids how crazy was that seeing the little ones after you hit a home run like that yeah so charlie my eight-year-old he's like so i hit the home run and he that's all he's asking is daddy are you going to be the mvp i said charlie it's the one game the only thing the eight-year-old cares about i said i don't know charlie's a lot of games left. But my three-year-olds don't really understand what's really going on.

But they were all excited.

They don't care if you go 0-4-4.

That's the beauty of it.

You know, 0-4-4-4.

You're still dead.

But Charlie is really into baseball and knows everything about it.

So he was pretty fired up after the game.

Hell yeah, man.

Got to start throwing some BP with him if you haven't already, man. Oh's got practice tonight i'll be taking him too there we go i'm gonna might need a mask and stuff to hide but yeah right yeah dude we gotta talk about this fucking in my mind absolutely hysterical moment in the world series one of the fucking Yankees fans tried to take a ball out of mookie betts's glove dude he didn't try to he did oh yeah oh my fucking gosh dude how fucking absurd was this yeah like what were you guys saying in the bit like was that like motivation like these motherfuckers are fucking yanking the ball out of our gloves these guys so i'm i'm in first you know and i'm watching him going i'm yelling you got room you got room just he can't hear me anyways i don't even know why i was saying that but just that's just what you're taught to do that's what you're supposed to do and so heavy on the comps catch it and then i see him like his he's not coming back into play I'm like, what is going on? And then I see him catch it.
And then I see him like, he's not coming back into play. I'm like, what is going on? And then I can see them like trying to rip his glove over.
And then I see the ball flying out of his glove. I was like, what just happened? And then all I'm thinking about is this an out still? I don't know.
Yeah. I was worried about an out.
Yeah, right? Did he catch it or not? Like, what just happened? I've never seen this before. Is this in the rule books? Yeah.
Have they found a rule for this yet? Is he out? Yeah. So afterwards, he goes, I think he said that's like one of the only couple of times I've wanted to fight someone.
You know?'s a great dude too man you don't see him as you don't see him as like one of the one of the fights about you he's as good as it gets happy all the time hell yeah but then i see the afterwards because it's hard to see it in the moment you know i didn't have a great angle of it i just see the ball flying out and but afterwards you could like the still picture is the fan. One fan is holding his wrist, you know? And then the other one is trying to pull his glove open.
I was like, wow. It was like the first or second inning.
Super inconspicuous. It was very smart.
They were there for two innings, spent $10,000 probably on those tickets and kicked out you know i'm just like geez that's a waste of money i just kicked out i think they got a lifetime ban yeah they're like never gonna be able to go back to a ballpark they didn't they weren't allowed for game five but i don't know about their season ticket holders i guess for the yankees and that's and they i heard they said if any of that they were planning that forever as season ticket holders.

Like, if that ever happened, that's what we're going to do.

If that ever happened.

I mean, it looked like they had that thing premeditated.

It was perfectly planned out.

And it just happened in the World Series on the biggest stage.

It's insane.

You're going to grab his arm.

I'm going to go for the ball, rip his glove open.

We got this down. All right, break.

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Get started with your free trial at wondery.com slash plus. Let's talk a little bit about the Dodgers team.
We were talking about the adversity you guys went through all season long. You still ended up the best team in baseball through the regular season.
98 games. So cool, yeah.
Do you prefer being the favorite or the one seed? Baseball is weird. I guess you guys are the third team in, what was it, like 15 years or something like that? What is it, third team in? It's been a while.
Since 1995. Two number ones.
95, yeah. Yeah.
Two number one teams to be in the World Series. Yeah, there's some crazy stat.
But the last three years, they changed it, where if you have the best record, you get like five days off or whatever in between. Yeah, man, that's huge.
The previous two years, we lost in the first round. And the year before, we got swept.
And then the year before that, we won the first one but then lost three in a row. So there's always this talk of what's best, what's smart.
But we want to be the best team you want to be we want to be the one seed yeah because we got home field advantage the whole playoffs you know and and you can see we started off at game one and two at dodger stadium in the world series why why would you want to start on the road you know like that doesn't sound great especially in a jungle like new york man you know and get your own fans hell yeah you're sleeping in your own beds you know you're not in hotel beds there's so many different so many more pros than cons than doing that kind of stuff so i think it was just a lot of talk about because we didn't play very well the previous two years so let's maybe be the two seed let's Let's get this – instead of get this matchup. No, if you just play good baseball, you're going to – and you have a really good team, you're going to ultimately most likely win.
It's just baseball is so hard to predict. Like last year, Mookie and I went one for 21 in the playoffs.
So it's like you can't really predict that kind of stuff. So it's – I say be number one seed.
It's just man yeah be number one c be the best get home field advanced throughout the course and do things differently like we did so during those five days we watched the padres games and like kind of a watch party of the like the braves and padres to see who we were and we just stayed together you know them together. We practiced together.
Usually we would just do our practice and then go home. The previous two years, this year we switched it up and stayed together as long as we could, tried to keep it as a unit.
Oh, that's interesting. That's awesome, man.
I think we were just trying to do some things differently. All of it paid off, man.
Yeah. You know, it's just like we said at the beginning of it, it's one just grind this one month like no kids at the because we the dodgers are great they let us bring our kids to the field before games during the regular season uh hang out all day long if you want but in the playoffs we're like let's just axe that and let's just focus on each other focus on this group in the clubhouse and we can give ourselves for a month to this.
And, you know, ultimately it paid off. And obviously we've played really good baseball with it too.
So a lot of things just worked in our favor. That's awesome, man.
I've heard a lot about like the, um, the buy, like baseball, such a rhythm sport, how much that affects it. And then it's a short series afterwards.
But I think I like what you said about home field advantage. Like, dude, just focus on being the best team.
Don't like just win, win games, win baseball games. And the rest of it takes care of itself.
I think that's. Yeah.
It's just like, I know Jason, you're a huge Phillies fan and stuff. So it's like, if we were to go into the bank on games one and two and like say the NLCS, how can that be good for someone? You know, like it's not like you'd rather be at home as much as you possibly can so just be the one seed and grind it out and figure out that five days and we ultimately did it this year baseball season is so fucking long i can't even imagine having to play that many fucking games day in day out with just a little like maybe a day or two here or there where you're not actually playing the game and it's unbelievable and you're usually traveling on those days so it's yeah exactly and it's just i can only yeah it's uh it's definitely the most grueling in my mind in terms of having to find your routine right can you speak a little bit on like what it really i mean you said training camp is kind of where you get you get uh, get locked in and get the loaded boat.
You went to Korea and it's like, how crazy is it starting in Korea? And like knowing that you got an entire 160 games left in the sea. It's like, it's insane.
Yeah. It's, it's a lot.
Um, luckily this is next year will be my 16th year. So I've kind of gotten used to it, but when you I've never started internationally like we did this year.
And so we had to go to spring training about two weeks earlier than we normally do this year. And then we were playing real games in mid-March in Korea.
And it's crazy. It's OK for position players, but it's more of pitchers like they're ramping up to be full throttle mid-March.
You've got to be faster, yeah. And that's a lot when you think about we still have eight more months pretty much to go.
Right. And you can see it.
Glasnow and Yamamoto both pitched in those two games in Korea, and they both got hurt this year. So you don't know if that's kind of a correlation of ramping up too fast, but it's a lot on your body to fly.
Especially overseas. Fuck yeah.
12 hours, 13 hours to Korea and then play and fly back. And we actually flew back and went back into spring training after those two games.
So we were playing, we played three games that didn't matter really, but it's great. And we're going to do it again next year.
We start in Japan next year, and we're playing the Cubs, two real games in Japan. We're going to have to do it.
Luckily, we have some experience now, but it's just a lot. You get into the routine, and you kind of understand the flying, getting to how your body is going to recover.
You guys know. Everyone knows their bodies pretty well.
So whatever you have to do to how your body is going to recover and i mean you guys you guys know you guys know everyone knows their bodies pretty well so whatever you have to do to get your body ready you just do it and you just kind of think about everything else later and yeah it yeah 162 games is a lot i've never really thought about it you know you just do it you know like you just wake up and go and then you play an extra 30 if you if you're lucky enough you play an extra 30 on top of it yeah and like we did and then you have spring training games so you're playing pretty like i played probably over 210 games this year you know it's and now you get a couple months we played all the way through october and so now our off season is even shorter because we have to go to japan next year and i mean spring training's in three months for us and it's just like it's absolutely wait a second yeah i need more than that i need more than three months especially going into 16 i hear you brother yeah do you think baseball gets to that point is it you think it's going to be an international league um i i think it's hard i mean, obviously the Expos were, you know, Canada. Yeah, we still have the Blue Jays.
I think it's just more of the flying. So we do like a London series every year now.
And it's hard because you have to fly over there and play and then come back. And your body clocks are off.
You just don't have enough time, I i don't think to be able to fly to these countries all over i think it's still a north american game just for the travel aspects because then if you're going international you're affecting other schedules and teams and stuff like that so yeah i think we'd just ultimately be like the couple games here and there in different countries to grow the game, which I think we're doing a great job of. Hell yeah.
To have a team in England, I just don't think it's really possible because of the travel of that. Makes sense.
Yeah, absolutely. If I'm commissioner one day, let's figure it out.
There we go. There we go.
Miss Freeman. Get him dialed in, baby.
Did you catch a shout out from LeBron? I heard, and he spelled my name wrong. Did he? The first time.
Yeah. He spelled it with a Y.
There it is. I'm very particular about my name.
I just spell it right. Please.
I heard he corrected it. He did.
Yeah, he put the IE on it because a lot of people, I think, started correcting it. I don't know why in particular about my name.
Well, it's your name. It's a good thing to be particular about it.
There we go. Yeah.
Yeah. LeBron's come to a couple games throughout the course of the regular season.
So it's pretty cool. I mean, as athletes, you just respect everybody.

And LeBron is the greatest basketball player of all time.

So it's kind of, it's pretty cool.

Yeah, it's special.

I guess it just means you've done something really good.

People are, you know, like hopefully we can keep doing it

in the city of L.A. with him.

I think we're going to a Laker game on Friday,

so the Dodgers.

Nice, right? You guys are going to be on the floor getting recognized? That's awesome. Yeah, I think because it's the city of LA with him.
I think we're going to a Laker game on Friday. The Dodgers.
Nice, right? You guys going to be on the floor getting recognized? I think so. It's the first home game since we won it.
I think a few of us are going to go and we'll get to see LeBron. The Lake show, baby.
That's a fun... It's going to be cool.
Speaking of LA, what was the parade like? I know the last, the last Dodgers team missed it, right? Cause it was the COVID year. So what was, what was it like? Yeah, it was pretty, pretty amazing.
We did it kind of around city hall, about a mile long. Um, there was fans on light poles and just every trying to just get a glimpse.
Yeah. And I was on the bus with Walker Bueller.
So, and Quique Hernandez, so our bus was a little crazy. Oh, yeah.
There we go. They were howdy bunch.
It was just, I think they haven't had a parade for Dodgers since 1988. Right.
God damn. I think it was a long time coming.
So 2020, they didn't have it. So I think there was a lot of making up to do with the fans.
We're going both celebrations. Yeah.
Yeah. They put it all in one.
I think when we won, they went nuts the night we were in. When we were in New York, they were going crazy in LA.
So I think they're still celebrating because I think Kike did Raising Canes. He was out there doing that kind of stuff, and they were in full force.
Dodger fans are so great. I mean, we have 53,000 people every single night.
It doesn't matter if it's a Tuesday on June 2nd, you know, they are out there in full force. So it's just a special group of fans and they were waiting a long time for this.
Yeah. It's crazy.
After you win, that was one of the things I missed when we won the Superbowl up in Minnesota, you see on social media that like the entire fan base has taken over the city of Philadelphia. Like broad streets just lined with people.
That would have been so cool to be in that moment. Set on fire.
Everything. I think there was a couple of things set on fire in LA or the night we went.
Yeah. Hey man, listen, it's the time to do it.
Nothing says celebration like public vandalism. It's the best.
Yeah. That's why I don't want to speak any of that out there and have them go for it.
Right. Yeah.
I think both of you are parade pros. Big parade guys.
Big parade guys. The Kelsey love the parades.
We do. We do.
I'll tell you any did you have any beers thrown at you uh yeah we actually had one hit one of our wives see dude that's what i'm saying actually gets a little dangerous we gotta not throw full beers yeah all right we can't it's like a fucking it's a grenade we can't do that yeah one of. Yeah, I got stitches.
And yeah, it's because you can't see them all.

Are you kidding me?

I never see a flying beer coming.

It's ridiculous.

No, at all.

And then they throw the little shots.

Fireball shots.

Fireball shots.

Fireball shots.

And you're just, boom, getting plunked in the head all over the place.

And then I had my kids with me, so I'm trying to like block them and yeah yeah but it's dangerous but yeah i think she took it like a champ she got the stitches and moved on nice we're from cleveland ohio we think of la new york like these are like the mecca of sports right all the the dodgers the Lakers, the Yankees, the Knicks. It's kind of like the legends.
I mean, Gretzky

played... like the mecca of sports right all the the dodgers the lakers the yankees the nicks that's like it's kind of like the the legends i mean gretzky played both both sides he played for the rangers he played for the kings you're literally one of those like coastal legends that have ever played the game like dude you're probably gonna have a statue outside of dodger stadium of you holding up the bat after you hit the fucking world series home run dude how fucking cool is it to like play in like a big market like that and to just reap the benefits of like having 53 000 in the stadium every single game yeah it's it's special when i first came over here in 22 the the freddie chants from the first time i got there like it's hard to even really put into words so cool man it it really is cool and uh the last these three years i've been here just like you when you okay so when i was with the braids and we came in to play the dodgers it was like the energy level of the of the stadium It's just like you raise your senses and you want to play that much better when you walk into Dodger Stadium.
Their speakers feel like the speakers are like inside. They're like the base.
It's fielding your boat. Yeah, you really can.
And it's just an incredible fan base. Everyone has eyes on L.A.
and how we're going to go about it. And then you sign Shohei and you spend like we spent this past off season.
So now really, it's almost like people are waiting for you to see if you're going to fail with all that, that you've done. And for us to go out there and not fail and win the whole thing, that makes it a little bit sweeter.
Cause I think everyone's waiting like, Oh, there's their flaw. There's their flaw.
Right. That's what's wrong.
Oh, no, they can't do that. I think that's what they were waiting for.
But to do something where – so I went to Jimmy Kimmel last night. We got picked up, and our driver goes, you made me cry three times this year.
And one was the Grand Slam, obviously my son, Max, and the story of my dad. So it's just when you have people that care so much and for you to be able to do something to make people happy, and that's why we play sports.
It's to bring joy for three hours, four hours to people and to be able to bring that to that to households around LA, California, Dodger fans all over, I think that's what's more cool to me after all this time. And to bring a championship to Southern California where I'm from, that's pretty special too.
And for my dad and my family to be there. Yeah, I don't know about the statue.
I feel like you have to play more than six, seven, eight years with one team, but we'll see. Or you just got to hit a Grand Slam in the World Series.
Nick Foles has a statue. Yeah, just walk off Grand Slams every year.
I'd rather not do that. I'd rather just win 10-0 every time, you know? There you go.
There you go. Dude, what was it like? Was it the circus that everyone felt like it was going to be bringing

shohei otani to la how crazy was it when he first got there did you like feel the attention kind of

go up a little bit more or what oh yeah so the first day i showed up to spring training shohei

was already there and i'm pulling in and you know i've already spent two years with dodgers

and uh when i pulled in there's probably a hundred cameras just filming every car that drives in. Because they don't know which one's Shohei or Yoshinobu, Yamamoto.
So it's mostly all the Japanese reporters. And I've never seen so many cameras throughout the course of the year than I did this year.
It was mayhem everywhere we went and so shohei started leading off at the end of the year and we have mookie hitting second me hitting third and it is this mookie and i started laughing so it's like say it's the top of the eighth or top of the ninth shohei has his last at bat 15 000 people are just immediately get up out of their seats and just walk out of the stadium. They're like, oh, Shohei's done.
Whoa! Stop it. And Mookie and I are on deck, and we're like, jeez, they don't care about us.
No way. That was quick.
No way. Man, okay.
And that's what it's like. Shohei is such a global superstar.
Right. And everywhere he went, every city, they want to see him, rightfully so.
I mean, he went 50-50 this year. He's going to win first MVP of DH.
He's just incredible. And what people forget is that he's rehabbing Tommy John.
And so he was rehabbing and getting his arm. And then he goes out and hits 50 home runs.
It's special to watch him go about his business every day. It's crazy.
And he's going to be pitching next year. And it's just, it's mind blowing.
It really is. That's what we do in like little league.
And he's doing it in the big leagues. Yeah.
It's mayhem everywhere we go because of Shohei. That's awesome.
It's got to be fun as hell, man. And probably a little bit sweeter when you can find a way to come together.
And I know he had the shoulder there at the end of the World Series. So finding a way to win it for him, knowing all those cameras are on him and Yoshi, man, that shit had to be cool, man.
Yeah, I mean, we don't but like even though he got hurt and we were able to bring it home for him like nlcs and the home run he hit off the cease and the nlds like there's so many moments and that we would never be where we were without yoshi and shohei and you know for shohei to get hurt at the end of game two and for us to still go out there and win it that just shows you how good our team is and it will be for a long time it should be a special few years hopefully you guys got a good culture man it seems like everybody's in it for the right reasons man freddie um we end every interview with a segment called we gotta ask you don't have to answer though so you can tell us to fuck off if you don't want to answer it it won't be anything too crazy um and it's exactly what it sounds like we're going to ask you uh rapid fire questions and you decide whether you want to answer them or not so jason jason jump it off yeah if uh if you didn't play baseball yeah what sport would you have played oh probably wouldn't have played a sport wouldn't have even done it did you play no any other i wanted to be i wanted to be a cpa time out nobody wants to be a cpa what are you talking about that's my my dad to do taxes yeah my dad uh owns his own cpa firm with my uncle his brother free me to bring cpas and okay okay shout out the friggin free yeah i've made my dad retire though so he's not i wanted to be a cpa i know it sounds crazy, i was going to be doing your taxes you guys do you do your own taxes now uh no i don't i gave up on that dream a long time ago yeah that ship sailed 20 years ago nice that's so fucking funny that i'm not gonna lie was not expecting that you weren't expecting cpa one second that's the first time

i think and the last time probably in 2017 you defected to the canadian national team okay how do we get you back to the u.s how do we get you back on the u.s team uh i would say defected yeah right so i mean if knows my story, both my parents are Canadian. They're born and raised in Canada.
I lost my mom when I was 10 years old to melanoma skin cancer, and she never became a U.S. citizen.
She was Canadian through and through. So I represent Team Canada on the national stage to honor my mother.

That's beautiful, man.

I don't know if that's what she would want me to do,

but that's what I feel like I should be doing.

So, unfortunately, I don't think I'm going to be coming back to the United States.

It's just I do it for my mom, who passed away when I was 10.

A story like that, man.

Hell yeah.

Go ahead.

That's as good as a reason if I've ever heard, eh? Yeah. CPA and defecting to Canada.
What else we got? Yeah. In April 2021, you were struck out by Cubs first baseman.
Big Riz, man. Anthony Rizzo.
Jeez. Should the Yankees have maybe just thrown him in there at the game when the bases were loaded there in the World Series? He actually said that to me in Yankee Stadium.
I think it was game three or four. He goes, you know what? I should have pitched against you.
You know what's worse about that? I was four for four in that game with a home run, and I struck out against Anthony Rizzo. I was like, you ruined my whole night.
I was balling. I was doing good.
But it's so hard to hit against position players because you lose your approach. Anthony is a friend of mine, so I'm just laughing at the mound.
He starts flipping up 50-mile-an hour curveball so i'm just like what are we doing yeah and i shook out and i'm like this is embarrassing you know reminds me of what was that uh uh oh my gosh it's not rookie of the year what's the one where like his arm has to get fixed yeah and he has to do the underhand one at the end yeah yeah He looks under his glove and sees it's his mom's glove.

It's his mom's softball glove, so he throws a softball.

And she's nodding in the stands and he just lobs it.

Do it.

Yes.

Dude, you know what to do.

Classic.

All right.

Shohei Otani signed the largest contract in professional sports history at 10 years 700 million dollars damn yeah does he ever make you pick up the check um we actually split the last one so oh there we go yeah good teammates so we we did a team dinner in new york and yeah shohei and i split and with kersaw. So a lot of that's deferred, so he's not really getting paid.
So they still do deferred contracts in baseball? And that helps? $68 million of his $70 million a year is deferred. And it's like through like 2050 or something like that, right? It's like ridiculous.
Me, Mookie, and Shohei are going to be like 50 years old. Still getting checks.
Yeah. But I heard he makes a ton off the field, so I think he's doing good.
He's doing all right. Yeah, right, yeah.
Do you have any juice for us? What's something people would be surprised to hear about Otani? Because it's still very much a mystery because he's still kind of learning the English language, right? The only thing I can say is when he gets on the plane, he literally just reads comics the whole flight.

Oh, yeah?

Really?

Yeah.

Are they anime?

Is he like Charlie Brown in it?

Or what kind of comics are these?

It's like anime comics, and that's what he reads.

Oh, nice.

All flight.

There you go.

And Jason was a big anime guy.

I wanted to be a CPA, you know?

So he wants to read comics, you know?

Yeah. I get it.
Let's get down know? So he wants to read comics, you know? Yeah.

I get it.

Let's get down with some Dragon Ball Z.

There you go.

Yeah, exactly.

Can you tell us the story of Chipper Jones saving you on an ATV?

Yeah.

Okay.

So this is 2014.

We're doing, like, kind of a Braves caravan.

So you go, like, kind of before the season starts. starts and in Atlanta you can get snow every couple years in the in the winter time of course it decides to snow that one day and my wife's and I house is about 40 minutes from Turner Field the old stadium and that's where we were where we were during that caravan and when they decided okay it's snowing we all got to go home so but we go out and they had let everyone out in atlanta at the same time schools work everyone like go home and it just it just became like snowmageddon that's what they were calling it so i lived 40 minutes away and chipper and i lived about you know like 0.1 miles from each other.
So we were pretty close and I made it to about, I would say 10 minutes from our houses after about 12 hours. Stop it.
Yeah. So I was trying to get home and you just got cars going up hills and sliding back down.
So you really couldn't really go anywhere. So I pulled into a parking lot about 10 minutes from our house and I had like 1% battery left on my phone.
So I texted my wife a picture of where I was and I was like, I'm just going to sleep here and just wait, you know, till the next morning. And my wife was actually at Taylor and Chipper, his wife, their house.
And Chipper decides to go

full camo. I ain't fucking doing anything.
Yeah. I'm not leaving him out there.
So Chelsea shows Chipper the picture and goes, oh, I know where he is. And within 30 minutes later, Chipper is coming on an ATV, like into the parking lot, like skidding through,

you know, and I was like, no way.

This is just unbelievable.

He brings me a jacket and he ATVs me home, ATVs me back to his house and has the fire

on.

And I'm like, I was not wearing clothes suited for snow and I am just shivering.

And yeah, thankfully, I would have been sleeping in a car, you know, all night.

But yeah, so they made bobbleheads and did all that kind of sorts for you.

You pulled up on the ATV like like Lloyd Christmas on Dumber Dumber.

Shaking. Yeah, it's a good story now.
but at the time I was not that good. Dude, I'm not going to lie, though.
That had to be pretty epic. You see the ATV coming right at you like, what the fuck is this? And he like slid it into.
It wasn't just like came up and just stopped. Some dramatic.
Oh, that's good, dude. He was having so much fun with it, you know.
18 miles to the gallon on his hog.

Trinity to a kid a few miles back.

Oh, man, that's fucking gold.

You were voted friendliest infielder to chat with on base by your fellow Major League Baseball players.

Did that surprise you?

What happens at first base?

Do you have this be an award? Yeah, I didn't know that was an award until I got told that I was voted that. I mean, I'm friendly.
I like to talk to everybody. If you get a hit and get to first base, I always tell you, nice job, nice hit.
This game's hard. Fuck yeah.
Life is hard. So I'll pick you up.
And a lot of them, since I've been playing so so long I've gotten to know a lot of people so most of the time like we're just kind of like just talking about life and obviously this year everyone kept asking me about you know my son Max and it's just conversations but usually around August people start talking about fantasy football at first base like like who you're going to take and stuff like that.

It's just, I just talk to everybody.

Because sometimes when you do talk to someone, you can pick someone off.

And there you go.

Get them distracted.

I'm not trying to do that.

That's a Jason Kelsey move with five ever.

I'm just generally talking to you.

But if we do pick you off, I'm sorry.

But no, I just talk to everybody that gets to first base. It's fun fun sports is fun it's not football i'm not trying to like hit someone you know it's baseball is different you know it really is pick those battles too in football you don't want to get anybody too fired up to or out a guy like max crosby you don't want you only want to talk so much shit to max max is going to turn into absolute fucking havoc if you say the wrong things.

Who's the guy that you would vote for is the friendliest?

Like Lindor, Francisco Lindor, when you get to second, always great.

And then like Ozzie Albies, brave second baseman is wonderful.

Rizzo, obviously, at first.

Joey Votto was another very talkative guy at first.

So there's a lot of guys.

A lot of guys in baseball are just friendly and kind of just talk, but being a first baseman, you encounter everyone. So there's a lot of good guys in sports, but I go with Lindor at second base.
He's probably the next friendliest. Have you ever pulled off a hidden ball trick? No.
Gosh. Do you think, do you think it's like, dude, I don't want to go that low.
That's kind of, yeah, that, that's kind of push league. I think it's kind of push league.
I wouldn't do it. I would have beat you fair and square.
Coach is like, we're doing it this week. We can pull it off.
I'll just tag you and throw it back. More because if you don't pull it off, you look like an idiot.
Just trying to tag someone on the base or waiting. It's just, come on, just throw the ball back to the pitcher.
So good. What what's your least favorite pitch i think the hardest pitch to hit is a well-located fastball like to be honest if you can locate your pitches pitching always is going to be better than hitting if you can locate your pitches you're always going to get us out it's so hard to hit that but hardest thing in sports don't like cutters.
Stuff from right-hander moving in, even though I did hit a couple of them in the World Series. All right, now.
All right, now. Yeah.
Just a few. That's a good way to answer it.
Just the pitches that you're really nailing. I don't want to tell people I like cutters.
Man, I really hate when they throw that fastball right down the middle of the plate. It's the worst.
I don't want to see like 90% cutters next year, you know?

There you go.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Exactly.

But the best pitch is a well-located fastball because if you pitch off your fastball,

then it sets up all your other pitches.

And so that's kind of how it works.

But it's so hard to hit your spots, and that's why, you know, we make what we make

because it's hard to hit those spots three times in a row.

No doubt. No doubt.
But I say well-located fastball, hardest pitch. Nice.
Awesome. Well, speaking of well-located fastballs and pitching, Jason thinks they should move the mound back in baseball.
He says, I thought it might be. It might increase offense a little bit more, you know.
Just a bit. Just like maybe one foot.
Go back to Commissioner Freeman. Do you, would you, Would you ever consider moving the mound back in baseball? I do not agree.
More because I think it would cause more injuries to pitchers. Oh, really? Guys would probably want to throw harder.
I think they would try and throw harder because they're even a foot away. They might try and throw harder.
There's a lot of injuries in baseball and pitchers. We mean we're throwing 95 to 100 every guy's doing that so it's crazy if you move it back even a foot i feel like you're going to try and throw it harder and i think just more injuries would happen the only thing i say if i was commissioner is getaway night games should be illegal no night games on getaway days oh nice nice yeah yeah i got you so we don't yeah cc said the exact same thing there's like there's we're getting in at 4 a.m like there's no way our bodies are good enough and like the next day you're just grinding you know and you're not your best self so i think we should do get it with that would be my only thing but i get the sunday night baseball and stuff like that but yeah the league should do that man that seems doable but i get it it's like it's a thursday and whatever city you're in and you have a one o'clock game people can't come you know because they're in work and i i do get that but it's hard on us but yeah they want to capitalize on prime time money i get it all but yeah you're fair.
You're a fair guy.

We've asked a bunch of guests this following question.

Do you think there are any Major League Baseball players that could cross over into another sport, whether it's the NFL, NBA?

Oof.

I saw Mookie running some routes before.

I've seen Mookie running some routes.

He can do it.

He's pretty athletic in a lot of different sports. Mookie could do it, but Mookie is also 155 pounds.
Yeah. If he got hit, I don't know how Mookie is going to get back up.
I would say Mookie bowling. He already does it.
He's already a professional bowler. I think there's guys that could do it.
Two sports is so hard, like at the highest level.

I mean, you guys, like there's no way we can go in there and run a route

and catch a ball with someone coming and going to take our heads off.

I am going to be running straight to the sidelines.

It's just what you guys do is special.

What we do, what basketball players, like it just, there's a reason why you guys are the best. And let's just stick to one sport.
I think that's smart. Just crazy, crazy talk.
Maybe go. I'm sure there's golfers like pitchers and golfers.
Dude, there's a, that's a whole thing. Golf is crazy too.
Like, like those guys are so good. It's ridiculous.
It's ridiculous. How much control of everything i know it's and the ball's not moving and you think you should just hit it perfectly every time and it just slices 300 yards the other way okay i can hit the one moving but i can't i have no one i have no one to blame but myself oh big wind gusts wind gusts Yeah, right.
Yeah, exactly. Maybe, yeah Wind gusts can't even knock that one out.

Yeah, exactly.

Maybe, yeah.

All right, we got one last question here, brother.

We heard that your son actually picks your walk-up songs.

Yeah.

Can you tell us about that,

or which one was your favorite that he's chosen so far?

Okay, so Charlie picks my walk-up songs every year.

He started this in 2021 when he was around four years old.

I was driving to the field one day, and he goes, I said,

when you're old enough, I'll let you pick my walk-up songs.

And he goes, well, Daddy, I'm old enough now.

And I said, okay.

Nice.

He loves Bad Bunny.

Nice.

He's grown up in clubhouses and Spanish music's all over the place. We actually took him to a Bad Bunny concert in spring training this past year.
Oh, that's so cool. I've had Bad Bunny as my walk-up songs for four years.
The first year in Dodgers, he picked a different one. Hea comigo which means dance with me and that's kind of the song we've kept but then another he has another one he picks bad bunny every single year so does he does he speak spanish uh does he understand the songs if he knew what if he knew what bad bunny was saying i don't I wouldn't allow him to listen to the music anymore.

There was one song he picked and i was like i told chelsea i was like we can't play this i can't walk because everyone like dodger fans speak spanish so i'm like i can't i can't walk up to this and i'm like i'm a married man of three kids And what he is saying doesn't correlate. Way to do your homework though.
Yeah. Way to do your homework.
Some lyrics. And I said, Charlie, we can't pick that one.
You got to. Yeah.
Sorry, but I have to pick another one. Sorry, but actually you're going to have to stop listening to that.
I can't have you out here. Just singing those lyrics.
He actually did say, he goes, daddy, I might pick something else other than bad bunny next year. So I'm like, whoa, So we'll see.
Maybe he picks my neck, my back. But it's been Bad Bunny for four straight years, so we'll see what.
Hey, it's working. I know, right? Maybe you got to stick with it.
And Bad Bunny is a great dude, man. I got to meet him a few weeks ago, man.
He's awesome. Oh.
He's picking some good. He's picking good dude.
Good guy's music. Well, brother, that does it, man.
Yeah guys are all thank you so much congratulations world series mvp couldn't be happier for you man family guy go ahead and enjoy this offseason i appreciate it and uh all the doors that open up when you you know i'm working for it baby yeah yeah you know it man i'm I'm going to start listening to some Bad Bunny right now. All right, guys.
I appreciate you guys. All righty, and that wraps up this episode of New Heights.
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