Hopkins Debut, Hail Mary Chaos and Niecy Nash-Betts on Acting with Travis | Ep 107

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We all came to see Travis.

And let me tell you something.

He was just trying to act like he was so professional as a football player.

I'm so focused.

Then he came out there with that stupid mustache.

He came out there with that stupid mustache. Try to act like...
Try to... Get out there with that stupid mustache.
Alright, man. Welcome back to New Heights, ladies and gentlemen.
A Wondry show produced by Wave Sports and Entertainment and presented by Timberland and Vans. How about it? I love some butters, baby.
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I'm Travis Kelsey. This is my big brother, Jason Kelsey, out of Cleveland Heights, Ohio.
Cincinnati Bearcats alums, and we're officially, in quotes, this is not me saying this, sexiest podcast host alive, according to People Magazine, the Reader's Poll. Oh, nice.
Yeah, we had a whole bunch of people vote on who the sex sexiest podcasters were and these other guys sure enough sexy ass jason kelsey uh wins it for everyone as always everybody tuning in subscribe on youtube wondry plus or wherever you get your podcasts and follow the show on all social media at new heights show that is with one s jason tell the people what we got coming up oh yeah no surprise here everyone we got a great episode lined up for you guys baby starting with the big road wins for the chiefs and eagles the washington hail mary the national tight ends day bullcrap and all the rest of the biggest storylines from week eight how about it man and i'm also fired up about our guest for this week's show that's right she's an incredible emmy award-winning actress and travis's co-star in grotesquerie yeah the one and only nisi nash nisi nash bets how about it man she's uh she's the absolute best to do it i promise you she's uh she's so fun to work with and i can't wait to have her on the show uh and show you guys uh the fun dynamic that she has with everybody around her man it's so much fun that's right cannot help but smile when you're talking to nisi that is for nation but first as always as always we're gonna start with a little bit of that new news coming in hot new news is brought to you by meta quest expand your world with meta quest philly special christmas album pre-order available november 1st that's right starting at 9 a.m eastern on november 1st you can officially pre-order the third installment of the philly special christmas album at philly special christmas.com how about it man jason you uh you you guys have been doing this for the past three years and we have who you're getting on this these albums keep going up and up and it just gets so much cooler to to see you uh have your musical uh career take off like this yeah my musical career yeah yeah exactly those the all the uh all the heights music classes and all the Heights. They paid off.
Yeah, it all paid off, baby. You're not playing the sax, man.
You're just using that voice. That sultry voice.
Oh, yeah, that raspy east side of Cleveland voice. We've got a preview of Lane Johnson's rendition of Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer.
Oh, nice nice let's hear what my dog lane's oh this is gold it's nice rudolph the red-nosed reindeer dude that is so fucking good shout out to Lane. Lane, he's got a sneaky voice, man.
No, Lane's, I've known for a long time. Even when we started doing this three years ago, Lane.
He can hold a tune, man. Very sneaky, like country, kind of southern.
Like in another lifetime, Lane could have been a country music artist. No question about it.
He's got that voice, that iconic draw. Yeah, he's got that country star-like aura to him, too.
Yeah, he fits in with the vibe. Well, everybody in the comments were appreciating Jason's fuck yeah at the end.
Jason, you haven't seen this yet? No. Fuck yeah! And we didn't get a chance to talk about this on the show yet.
Jason, you got to work with Stevie Nicks. Yeah, baby.
Jason, what can you tell the 92%ers about this? Stevie Nicks, the legendary Stevie Nicks, came on and did a duet with me. Nice.
Which, in itself, like, pretty crazy to actually be on a track with Stevie Nicks. I mean, unreal like probably the most legendary female singer especially of her generation and maybe i mean i don't know man this is like a such a unique voice such a unique artist that was good for so long the fact that i'm singing with her this legend so cool is pretty unreal and isn't she just the best in person too? One of the nicest people I've ever talked to.
It blows you away. She was absolutely beautiful personality.
She, you could tell she likes, she loves people. She loves music.
She loves the art of making music, brought a breath of fresh air into the recording studio. We were able to actually get in the studio at the same time, which is really hard.

A lot of times when we're adding a lot of the big time artists that are actually like

doing this for a living, a lot of times they come on, but we have to like kind of, you

know, they can't come into the studio because they're busy doing their own thing.

Right?

Yeah.

This was really cool.

We got, we were able to get Stevie in studio, actually sing together, which like I'll be

able to cherish that memory for the rest of uh my lifetime oh that's so cool man hell yeah yeah it was just really really cool we got stevie boys the men is on the track yeah travis and i sing on now that you want to talk about like full circle that is exactly who like when i think of christmas music from like my childhood like obviously you got the legendary songs from like before we were even born but like growing up like oh yeah you already know but the songs that were created as like we were growing up i mean boys the men had so many bangers and they're they like when i hear their voice it kind of like reminds me or puts me me in that Christmas mood. And to be on the same, same song as them is, is fucking insane.
Yeah. When they, when we first started doing that song, I actually didn't know if it was going to work.
It's just like an R and B song. And when I think of Christmas music, I do not think of R and B.
What? No, I don't. I just, I think of, you know, Frank Sinatra.
I think of pop music. Like, you know, you got your Mariah Carey or Justin Timberlake.
And this is before Boys to Men. This is just when Zach wrote the song.
Zach Miller writes the song. And I'm already like, I don't know.
This doesn't feel right. And the more you listen to it, you're just like, oh my gosh.
Actually, Zach killed this. R&B is perfect.
And I think we all really were hoping that, you know, maybe there's a chance in hell that Boyz II Men would want to come and collaborate on this with us. And sure enough, they hopped on to Christmas time in Cleveland Heights, which is even more special.
They have a song attributing our hometown and in some ways a representation for everybody who's longing for home around the holidays was pretty special. It was awesome, man.
I can't wait to play that thing while we're in the Christmas spirit and snow's falling and there's presents under the tree, baby. How about that? Well, there's great news for all you 92 percenters.
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Okay. The thing I do know is, how about them cheese? Yeah, Kurt.
All right. How about those cheese, baby? Cheese.
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Fan mentions of the week. Let's move on to some fan mentions, baby.
On last week's episode, Jason accepted Pat McAfee's and Van's challenge to kick a field goal in his Tim's, in his butters, baby. Yo.
For a great cause. And now our good friend, Eagles kicker Jake Elliott is also getting involved.
Why don't we check out this clip? Alright, Jason. Heard what you said about kickers.
I'd like to lightly disagree. Fly back if he called you out last week and challenged you to kick in your Tims.
This I'm going to kick in some Vans A superior kicking shoe Superior kicking shoe He's got the Vans on Alright let's see it Something tells me it's going right down Oh yeah A nice slight draw Very pretty He's done that before He just did a nice easy 35 yard field That's all it's got 35 yard jason you just gotta hit it right on the nose man just gotta hit it right there on the button i'm gonna have to toe it you can't go do a soccer style kick with tim's on you're not gonna get the proper ankle flexion the boots so i'm gonna have to go lou groza i'm gonna have to toe it yeah so instead of going typically you go one two three steps back two to the side this one you're just going three back three back and i'm just going man i'm not gonna lie the toe there's a lot of room for air on the toe the chance this thing goes straight is minimal let's see this trick kick though it's a trick what's a trick oh what now he's just now he's just showing He's just showing off. That's crazy.
Who is this guy?

A fucking sorcerer? Is this guy a Jedi? How the fuck did he do that with his feet? It's pretty impressive. That is very impressive.
Now he did it in vans. He didn't even do it in his regular cleats.
Yeah. Which vans are, I mean, like he said, premium kicking shoe.
92%ers and Pat McAfee and Jake Elliott. We have a big announcement.
I'm officially going to Happy Valley. That's right, Penn State this week.
To try and kick. State College PA.
To try and kick. I've never been.
I've never been to Penn State. Oh, yeah.
Happy Valley. That's your kind of place.
I've gone fly fishing in the area, but never been to State college. So...
It's your kind of college.

You'd like that place.

I'm kind of excited about this for multiple reasons.

I am a little bit concerned.

I don't know if you guys saw this this week.

Somebody tore their ACL warming up.

Did you see this?

Yeah, that wasn't a good one.

This is one of those don't drink and drive, kids.

Oh, my gosh. What are we doing? What are we doing what are we doing i mean dude when you don't have cleats on this is why are we doing this is why i'm going straight on i'm not giving a plant leg i'm just going straight through dude there's no way you make this straight on i can't do it i've i i mean, the Timbs is a big, it's a factor that is going to cause me a lot of issues.
If you don't have to get like the flexion of the ankle, I don't think you have to go straight on. You can just go sideways.
I think the only chance I'm making it in Timbs is going straight on. I don't think I can do the soccer style.
I think you go more sideways. All right, dude.
I think you go more sideways. Maybe if I miss it, maybe I'll take my shoes.
Maybe I'll take the Tims off and go barefoot and see if I can't get a soccer style. You're going to break your fucking toe.
I'm going to break my toe? No, I'm not going to put that on you. I do think you have weak toes.
Well, they are pretty. They're wore down.
You wore steel-toed cleats. I did wear it.
All righty. Well, if you too would like to take on this challenge of potentially kicking kicking a field goal in timberland boots uh please send us your videos of you kicking in tims we would love to see them show jason how it's done dude i know so many people that have actually messed up their legs kicking pat talked about it last week after he got done he's playing soccer tore his hip flexor connor barwin one time he punted a ball after practice i don't think his knee i don't the same.
Yeah. You don't want to get the hyperextension.
You want to make sure all those muscles are firing so one doesn't over... I mean, this is all...
I know nothing about this. This is all what my theories are, but goddamn.
I think it sounds like it makes sense. Yeah.
Just don't go too hard. Don't go too hard.
So best of luck to everybody.

Hopefully you stay nice and healthy, and we can have some awesome videos of you attempting to kick in Tim's.

We'd love to see that.

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with the Chiefs. Chiefs 27, Raiders

20. Chiefs are now

7-0 for the first time

since the 2013 season.

Andy Reid is tied for the winningest coach in Allegiant Stadium. Chiefs undefeated in Las Vegas.
Oh, shit, coach. Oh, he's tied for the winningest coach in Allegiant Stadium.
Nice. You guys had a new player in the building.
D. Hopkins.
Yep. D.
Hopkins. We just got another one.
He's got another one joined the squad yes sir one of the many receivers who have been shopped close to this trade deadline for teams hoping to be playoff contenders how was it man it's awesome man having d-hop in the building have another vet a guy that's he's such i call him swag champs when you get a vet that into the building and he just he juices everybody's confidence up. He juices everybody like the aura and the fun that you have in the building and just going to work.
He's just another guy that you can always rely on to show up and put in the work, but enjoy what he's doing and try and have some fun with him, man. He's been awesome stepping up and stepping into the building.
He had two days to get, you know, Thursday and Friday during practice to get timing with Pat and in the offense and kind of get into the routine and everything with Coach Reed's way of doing things. And, man, he's just professional, just a professional guy.
He came in asking questions, trying to get caught up as fast as possible. And sure enough, we get him in the building, and I think the first third down we had, we went right to him, baby.
Yeah, right to him, and he's right on time, man. Let's go try out the shiny new weapon we got here.
Yeah, last Wednesday, for those of you that aren't privy to how this happened, Hopkins was traded to the Chiefs from the Titans for a fifth-round pick. That could become a fourth-round pick, but for all intents and purposes, it seems pretty cheap for a guy like DeAndre Hopkins.
Is there anything else that DeAndre Hopkins needs to be ready for being a member of the Kansas City Chiefs or Chiefs Kingdom? I think he's such a professional, man. He knows how to win football games.
He knows how to be accountable. You don't need to tell that guy much.
You know, he gets it. He gets it.
And he's only made us better already. And I promise you, as he gets more incorporated into the offense and gets more in tune with Pat and how Pat likes to do things and how he likes to do things for Pat, I think all of that will just make him a very vital part of this offense.
And it's fun to have him in the building, man. It is, man.
Like I said, he's a swag champ, just the coolest guy you know. And he definitely juices up the room, man, juices up the huddle.
Well, we have some postgame comments on Hopkins from some of your teammates. Patch Mahomes said, as I looked back at the tablet, that's for those of you that don't know, there's an iPad on the side of the game so you can kind of see what's happening.
As I look back at the tablet, there's a couple of times where in man-to-man coverage, he was just really working and winning, Mahomes said of Hopkins, even the touchdown to Travis. If you look back on his side, he's open two for a touchdown.
I know the type of player he is. So Pat, obviously, big fan of DeAndre, DeHop.
Coach Reed was also quoted as saying he wanted to be in there more, which is positive. He finished with two receptions for 29 yards on three targets.
I understand he'll get more chances in the next game. Without a doubt.
Without a doubt. And obviously, we'll have more plays in the base game plan that we put in on Wednesdays.
We didn't get him in the building until Thursday. It's a late addition for the week.
It's hard to kind of just throw a bunch of plays at him. Yeah, exactly.
And yeah, you could be re-watching that game, man. He was out there breaking guys off.
it's just fun like i said to have him have him in the building yeah he's one yeah 100 there's there's no uh drop off with him at all well speaking of throwing a bunch of things at you big yet he had a big day that's right he led all receivers this past sunday finishing with 10 receptions for 90 yards and got his first study of the season how about that big yeti back in the end zone how's it feel it felt good to be in the end zone man i hadn't felt that end zone in a long time it was kind of like oh shit what do i do now you know it was one of those things i haven't been in a while you went with the natural spike natural spike it's like when you go back home you're just like well now what do i do do i go see this person first or that person first do i go to the high school do i Do I go to my favorite restaurant? You know what I mean? You're just kind of sitting there like, what should I do? What should I do? So many things. I was lucky my guy DeHop came up and saved me because I was just kind of sitting there not doing a goddamn thing.
But it was electric to get in the end zone. And anytime we get in the end zone right now, you got to take that momentum and run with it, baby.
That was our focus coming into this game was not settling for field goals. We did on a few drives and hurt ourselves on a few others backed up.
It's a mentality right now that we're just going to make sure that we give our defense touchdowns. Got to have them.
Yeah. When you give Chris Jones and that front and Spags the ability to blitz on third downs and really bring the pressure and put teams in passing situations, I mean, that is a tough, tough defense, man.

And we love them for it, man.

And I think giving them points early is only going to make everybody's job

a whole lot easier, man.

We also got another big Yeti lateral towards the end of the first half,

which my man Piran was not as – well, I guess he was ready for it.

You guys definitely knew you were doing this one.

This one felt more planned out.

Yeah, that's why I got to just calm down.

I can't wait. which my man P.
Ryan was not as, well, I guess he was ready for it. You guys definitely knew you were doing this one.

This one felt more planned out.

Yeah, that's why I got to just calm down.

I got a little excited.

I fucking, before he was able to get ready for the lateral,

I felt like guys were closing on me, and I could pitch it to him.

He could get out of bounds.

It was way too, it was too much.

It was chaos, and I told him afterwards, like, my bad, dog. I won't put you in a situation like that again.
And he told me, he was like, don't worry, man. I'll be ready for it.
But it's still, you know, when the ball's on the ground, when you do something like that, all I can hear and see is just Coach Reed. Just come here.
Don't ever fucking do that ever again with my jersey on your back. Don't you ever fucking do that with me.
So time out. This one wasn't designed because this one did look designed.
Most of the time when you do it, you're doing it out of nowhere on your own. No.
If it was designed, I think he would have been more ready for it. I kind of just fucking threw it on him.
Fair enough. I'm not going gonna lie him the ball hitting the ground kind of it helped it ironically it did help a little bit it threw the safety off or the corner the corner yeah well i guess that is the safety he was playing he was playing that uh two invert or whatever it is yeah so uh if you're gonna do dumb shit don't do real dumb shit is golden rule that i grew up with you know if you going to be stupid, don't be real stupid.
There we go. Just got to contain the stupidity and just be great.
That's Travis Kelsey-ism. Just be great.
Get the ball. Get it north.
Fortunate that we got in the field goal range there, and I didn't cough the ball up to the Raiders, man. Maybe the play of the game.
The Chiefs are up 17-13 in the third.

Raiders have the ball on the three-yard line, and we're denied.

That's right.

Big-time goal line stand.

The Raiders went for it on fourth down.

Tershawn Warden sacks Gardner Minshew for a turnover on downs.

Yeah, was the goal line stand a play of the game?

That was at a point where.

100%. It got me fired.

It got me fired up, man.

I was out there screaming and hollering, and you could hear how many Chiefs fans were in the Allegiant Stadium too, man. That place absolutely erupted when they got the fourth down stand because we had just had a big turnover and backed up turnovers typically end in points.
And when you can steal the ball back with a team trying to go for it on fourth down, man. It's just

electric. You get so much momentum.

I'm pretty sure after that, we drove the ball

all the way down and found a way

to at least get some points.

A 19-play field goal drive.

Oh, wow. That's a long

drive for just a field goal.

10 minutes o'clock, you guys

freaking really got after it? Yeah, I don't know

if there's anything more electric than a goal on stand. It is just like pure adrenaline when that fourth down doesn't work out.
Oh, yeah. We also got a great post from Drew Tranquil after the game.
Tranquil. Yeah, he wasn't having any of this nonsense.
Drew Tranquil said, Kermit and the boys vibing out in Arrowhead West. There we go.
So Allegiant Stadium is now Arrowhead West, according to Drew Tranquil. Love that.
Was the Chiefs defense more fired up than usual to play the Raiders with all of the chatter that was going on in the offseason and leading up to the season? I don't think it really takes chatter for everybody to get fired up for a division rivalry. I think everybody knows what's at stake, and everybody wants to rise to the occasion and really make their statement.
All the Kermit stuff that happened between the Raiders and them saying that they had the formula to stop Pat Mahomes, I think that was just icing on the cake of motivation to really go out there and show them that they didn't have that formula. We got to go out there and prove it again.
We got to prove it again when we play them down the road here

after Thanksgiving, and I know they'll be ready

because we were out there.

We were in a bar fight for four quarters there,

and we were fortunate enough to get that goal line stand,

milk a lot of the clock, put some more points up on the board,

get a two-score lead.

But that team fights, man.

Like I said, Coach Pierce, he's got those guys flying around

playing tough football, man, and Max Crosby is a fucking dog man he is uh yes he is yeah I can't get my fucking hands on him I gotta be better in the run game against him yeah and he uh and he does a great job of just being you know wrecking havoc man yeah and he's he's one of those guys where you talk shit like you hate him during the game and then afterwards it's nothing but love man I got so much respect for him and how he carries himself and And he's one of those guys where you talk shit like you hate him during the game, and then afterwards, it's nothing but love, man. I got so much respect for him and how he carries himself and how he stands on being the face of that franchise and doesn't shy away from anything.
He loves the Raiders organization. You can see that, and he just wants to win, man.
Chiefs defense also just added a new weapon. Patriots formerbacker josh ucci yes sir had 11 and a half sacks in 2022 he's an athlete man sure he's like typical like patriots backer that can kind of do a little bit of everything so those are always good pieces especially athletic as hell man spags he likes pieces like that guys you can do all sorts of fun stuff with.
That's always fun. Trav, you caught up with the Raiders rookie tight end Brock Bowers after the game.
Yeah. Do you typically ask for jerseys, or were you just getting into the National Tight End Day season? You know, I always try and reach out to the rookies or at least the young guys getting into the league i think brock is obviously he's leading all tight ends and uh and i think receptions and catch and receiving yards um i'm not sure about receptions i know he definitely has the yards right now and uh 500 plus yards through what is it seven eight games for him as a rookie i mean that's fucking that's damn good right there so he's got a lot of promise to be you know a staple at the tight end position for a long, long time at being his rookie year, and he came into the league so young, only playing three years at Georgia.
And watching him play, man, he's got a smooth game. You know, he's out there running similar routes to what I was kind of running earlier on in my career, and I just always want to make sure I look out for the young tight ends in the league and let them know they got my support, man.
Absolutely. Well, we got some LeBron stats.
Travis now has the second longest active streak of games with at least one reception at 165 games behind only. D-Hop.
His new teammate, DeAndre Hopkins. That's right, with 169 we guys talked about this you guys are you guys both aware that you're we're both we both know that we're uh we were drafted the same year obviously uh he was drafted to houston um i was the uh third rounder to uh kansas city and um it's just been cool to see how how accountable he's been everywhere every you know organization every offense he been, and he's been the vocal point.
And I just can't wait to see how his role in this offense keeps progressing. But no, we haven't talked about this, and I'm pretty sure.
I mean, I don't give a damn about it. Yeah.
I don't think either one of us are thinking about the streaks. We just go out there and we just ball.
Yeah. I mean, I think that you just kind of go out there and play, right? Mah became the fastest quarterback to 30 000 career passing yards and through his 52nd regular season touchdown to none other than travis kelsey that's right moving the quarterback tight end duo into third place in nfl history in that category that's pretty freaking cool yeah i'm pretty sure rivers and uh and gates have like a hundred and like 19 you're never catching them

are you kidding me they played like they played like 15 16 years together and gronk and brady they played 13 years together and had i think a hundred as well with him going down to tampa and having a bunch of tutties there outside of the unbelievable career uh they had in new england so So, yeah, that's probably not going to get touched.

So I'll take bronze medal in that.

I'll take bronze medal in that. I'll take a bronze medal in that.
That's fun. Next week, the Chiefs are at home versus the Bucs on Monday Night Football.
Jason, you're in KC again, dog. Can't wait.
What's up? You were tailgating with the people. You were one with the people, the Chiefs Kingdom, as well as the Saints fan base.
True, true, true. Do you have any fun stuff you're getting into yet, or do you not know yet? I don't really know yet.
I think we'll find out. I mean, we haven't talked about it too much as a Monday Night Football team.
I'm going to go out, and yeah, we'll see what we get into. I think there's, listen, I love going to KC, love getting to watch Trav play.
So not only do I get to work the first half, but I'll be able to hang out and see a bunch of friends and family and familiar faces in the second half and catch up with you after the game. So it's always fun when I get to come to Kansas City and watch Trav play.
Bands of City. Hey, yo.
Well, the Bucks are putting up points on offense, so need a big week in terms of prep this week so we can get on the same page and make sure that we put up some teddies for our defense, man. But that's enough about the Chiefs.
Let's get to the rest of the biggest stories coming out of Week 8 in the NFL as we start with the Eagles. Hey.
Eagles 37, Bengals 17. How about that? Damn, they put up 37 on the Bengals.
Yeah, buddy. Fly, Eagles.
Fly. Go Birds, baby.
Jason, initial thoughts on the game. I thought this was the best game the Eagles have played collectively in a long time.
I mean, they were good on both sides of the ball. The defense played well.
Offense, probably their most complete game they've played, you know, this season, I'd say. Yeah.
And the Bengals, I know that their record indicates that they're not very good. They've been in every single game.
These guys have been very close in all of them. So to be able to come out on top like this against a team that has played pretty much everybody tight in Cincinnati, I thought it was a very impressive game.
And I think in particular, Jalen Hurts played his ass off, man.

He was on point.

He was dialed in.

He was making smart decisions.

The offense was in rhythm.

And that's the big thing.

Like, ever since AJ went down before Tampa, it's felt like the offense has been a little

bit like, not disconnected, but, you know, just very spotty.

And it hasn't really been able to find that cohesiveness that that timing and uh they had it this past week against the bangles so it was fun to watch well despite not scoring in the first quarter yet again they still put up 37 points it was close it was close they got a field goal like right after the first quarter ended i believe but that's still though man that's fucking that's insane that you don't score for a quarter and you still put up 37 points the eagles do remain the only half offense in the nfl i believe yeah right now that's i mean that's a good turn it on baby uh yeah they they remain the only nfl team uh scoreless in the first quarter partly due to a bangles uh 10 minute opening drive which is also uh that's that's pretty impressive ice cold, just waiting for the ball to get back in your hands or get the ball for the first time. Jalen finished with 236 yards with one touchdown, three rushing TDs.
That's right. That's some tush pushes in there, baby.
No interceptions, which is always a big thing. Turnovers will kill you.
One of the most electric plays of the game came towards the end of the third quarter, though. Jalen connected with Devontae Smith.

Yeah, buddy.

That's right.

Skinny Batman for a 45-yard TD.

And you just got to love it when Skinny Batman comes down with the play

because he's just one of the best teammates you can have, man.

You can tell the guy just does it right, man.

He added something to the swear jar at the end of this play.

Yeah, buddy.

Ugh! You added something to the swear jar at the fired me up right there it, baby. I'm getting fired up just watching it.
Just fired me up right there. Hey.
He ain't lying. He does it.
He does it very well, too. Glad to see him back in the end zone yet again.
Saquon finished with 108 yards himself. Topped 100 scrimmage yards for this sixth time in seven games with the Eagles.
The guy's having a fucking unbelievable season, man. If I got any notes for the eagles i'd say get uh sake one the ball keep giving them the ball not bad the eagles also scored on five of their second half possessions like you said they're one of the best teams in the in the nfl in the second half and that is always a good time to turn it on jason what do you think has caused this offense to suddenly start having that click, having that rhythm, and finding points? I don't know.
They've had a lot of, obviously, there have been injuries. AJ and Smitty were out at a certain point.
Then I think it just felt like it took a little bit to get that rhythm back. It felt like they got to a little bit more play action this week.
And I just felt like, you know, they were on it. Everybody was on it this week.
And the timing was there. The cohesiveness was there.
It felt like the plan all went together. It just felt in every phase from, you know, the players to the coaches, everybody was really on when this game.
And, you know, that's one of the reasons it's so hard in football is like it only takes a little bit to be off, even when you got the players that the Eagles have, even when you got the guy like Jalen Hurts back there. Yeah.
So hopefully this is something that they can build on. They can build on this confidence, this cohesion, and, you know, keep it moving forward because it's fun to watch, man.
the eagles are on uh when aj brown is on uh it is a fun offense to watch for dang sure damn straight well let's talk a little uh eagles defense because holding that high-powered uh bangles offense to only 17 points i mean that's damn good so maybe the biggest upgrade since september has been the play of the Eagles secondary. Yes, sir.
Burrow was one for two for 13 yards, targeting rookie DB Quinion Mitchell. It's pretty good.
Cooper Dijon has allowed five receptions on eight targets for just 25 yards. Since becoming the starting slot cornerback, also known as the nickel, in Philadelphia in week six.

Both of these rookies have been playing lights out.

Quinjon Mitchell has been up to the task against everybody this year.

It's really been impressive to watch his ascent as a young player.

And then Coop started getting the start a couple weeks ago, as you just said, in week six.

The defense is just playing more aggressive, and it's a lot of fun to watch right now. They've really had two subpar games, when you think about it, against the Saints in Tampa Bay, or Atlanta in Tampa Bay.
Sorry, they played the light side against the Saints. In Atlanta, for two different reasons, I mean, Atlanta, they just could not stop that outside zone runs to the weak side, and they finally have got that figured out.
And then Tampa just felt like everything was so off and very passive in terms of what they were giving underneath. Now, Tampa Bay has some great players.
I mean, you want to give those guys some cushion, so I get it. But they have answered the bell by being much more aggressive in particular there was a great play by cooper cooper de jean on a fourth down um where chase was going in motion and he even said like the moment he kind of saw uh chase go in motion he had an idea that they were going to try and get him the ball on something quick and sure enough they try to throw it out uh to chase in the flat like right now yeah i mean those are those motions where you go back and forth i mean that's what you yeah that's what you do on those kind of motions is you try and get the ball quick to him heads up play by the rookie and uh sorry for saying your last name dijon instead of dejean i don't yeah i think that's it i mean it makes sense that's how it's spelled uh j Jason, you got any final thoughts on the game? Are the Eagles – I think they're a new team because they're continuing to get better.
Nice. And continuing to evolve as the season's going.
Nice. You know, we've known this.
We've known that the Eagles have great players. Have they been, like, the best team every single week? No, because this is a process of getting better each and every week.
The defense has shown that. They're being more aggressive in the secondary.
The defensive line has really stepped up on offense. Jalen Hurts played his best game of the year, in part because all the weapons are there.
The offensive line made him feel really comfortable. Him and the coaches continue to get on the same page, especially with new play caller, Kellen Moore.

And he just felt comfortable back there.

You could tell.

Yeah.

You know, as long as that continues to trend in that way,

you're going to see a great team from Philadelphia because they have the talent.

They have great coaches and great scheming.

Like, this is awesome to see.

This is what I think everybody expected to see out of Philadelphia

going into the season.

Yeah, this is the standard. This is the standard.
You know, they got a big game this next week in Jacksonville. Well, Doug P.
Ooh, Dougie P. That's right.
The Jags are better than their 2-6 record. We all know that.
Dougie P can scheme some stuff up pretty damn good. But they also have four of those six losses by less than one score.
Yeah, they're another team that's been close in most of these games their record could very easily be different yeah so yeah it's a big game this week well we got a few lebron stats of the game jalen hurts is the first quarterback in nfl history to have three or more games with three plus rushing touchdowns yay there we go there we. Identical twins Chase and Sidney Brown faced off for the first time in the NFL and also made history as the first Canadian identical twins to go head-to-head in the NFL.
Nice. Nice.
Nice. There we go.
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Every big moment starts with a big dream.

But what happens when that big dream turns out to be a big flop? From Wondery and At Will Media, I'm Misha Brown, and this is The Big Flop. Every week, comedians join me to chronicle the biggest flubs, fails, and blunders of all time like Quibi.
It's kind of like when you give yourself your own nickname and you try to get other people to do it. And the 2019 movie adaptation of Cats.
Like if I'm watching the dancing and I'm noticing the feet aren't touching the ground, there's something wrong with the movie. Find out what happens when massive hype turns into major fiasco.
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Get started with your free trial at wondery.com slash plus. All right, now let's keep it moving to the week eight roundup.
We had a bunch of great games and a bunch of big time matchups.

Let's get into a few of those and talk about a few before we get to Nisi Nash Betts.

Yeah.

The fun interview talking about some grotesquerie and some Reno 911.

Starting with the Monday night football game.

Yeah, a little Monday night action.

Obviously, you know, I was talking about it last night.

I think everybody was talking about it on Twitter the george pickens catch or not catch dude insane yeah i think everybody's been very quick to point out he needs both feet down not just two feet and i gotta admit i had i didn't know what the ruling was like he clearly. Yeah.
Right. Here it is for everybody that didn't see it.

It's pushed.

And then somehow the left never touches.

Yeah.

So the right,

the right foot hits twice.

The left one,

because he got hit the way he did,

never catches the ground,

which I'm not going to lie.

I'm not going to lie about the defender.

I mean,

hell of a fucking play.

And that's why you finish the play. Even if the guy's got it, got it in his hands and that's why you finish the play even if the guy's got it got it in his hands that's why you finish the play like that man i said this last night this is a great point go ahead every every once in a while there's a catch made that makes everybody reevaluate what a catch is like there's the des bryant one that happened in the playoff game oh there's so many where just like i think to everybody watching this so much obviously should have been a catch he catches it midway in the end zone and they rule him out of bounds and i get it by rule by rule does say both feet you need the right and the left i understand that that is the rule i just think that there's see i go back and forth on this though too like by this rule somebody could catch the ball in the middle of the field and hop on one leg till they get out of bounds and he's out of bounds like no i mean come on but yeah we've seen how much changing we every time they add an addendum to any of these rules addendum nice every time they add like this little like oh it's then this or then this it feels like it becomes harder in some ways to gauge what it catches yeah so maybe we shouldn't change it we just know that like that like everyone knows that's a catch just not by the nfl rules yes played by george pickens yeah and i feel like there's in some ways i feel like they should add an addendum and say like hey if you hop twice on the same leg like clearly two separate steps that should be in bounds but there should be a good judgment clause and there should be somebody in new york saying yes that was that i override that that was a touchdown i know the rules might not say it but we just don't't have enough leeway to create rules for every single situation.

It's just like, or maybe they change this and they put it in there.

Like if you hop twice and have a football player, have the possession that counts as two feet,

like one foot and an elbow, one foot and a knee, all these others.

But I guess two feet of the same foot is not a catch.

I mean, the problem is if they change it it just leads to like more discrepancy like there's going to be one where like a guy is going to like step and then toe drag the same foot and then people will be like that's two feet and it's like dude this was like two very distinct steps He caught it five yards inbounds when he first like got it on his hands yeah so that's the problem it's tough it's tough to me i i mean i don't know how you can be out of bounds the way it was a mind-blowing play i remember seeing it just when they first said like i've never seen anything i was like what how is that possible with where he caught it at and then it's like okay but i guess the easy way to say it is like hey you know drag your foot i don't know yeah straighten that left foot out don't even put it in the ref's hands yeah either way hell of a play by george pickens and a hell of a play by the db Yeah, that's right. That's right.
National Tight End Day, or as I like to call it, Sunday, Travis, tight ends across the league, celebrated Travis's favorite holiday by setting all sorts of records. That's right.
There were 16 total touchdowns, the most tight end touchdowns ever on National Tight Ends Day. This is why it was National Tight Ends Day.
I mean, that's a brilliant idea by tight ends. Hey, let's create a National Tight Ends for all our coaches scheme up touchdown plays for the tight ends.
Shout out to George Kittle, man. Brilliant.
That's the George Kittle thing right there. He came up with that one.
It was brilliant. There was also 177 total catches on National Tight End Day.
The most ever on National Tight End Day.

Some highlights.

I think everybody saw 49ers.

George Kittle had a huge touchdown play.

George had a fucking day. He had a nice day.

Six catches for 128.

Kyle Shanahan was definitely.

Another tutty, man.

Kyle Shanahan was definitely celebrating National Tight End Day.

Bucks tight end, Cade Otten.

That's right.

Cade.

With their two big receivers.

Cade had a sneaky solid year this year, man.

That's right with uh with their two big receivers sneaky solid year this year man that's right two receivers down yeah he's becoming the old reliable with no gloves baby two titties dude i hate i do i don't know why i don't like when guys don't wear gloves it's just not like i have like listen to each your own but it's just like why would you put yourself at a disadvantage i don't understand like it's so much better wearing gloves so why do you not wear gloves like what are you proving whatever floats your boat finds the lost remote baby is it just to be like i'm tough like there's no way you're better at catching without gloves i don't think kate's trying to prove something like he's tough i think he just i just think he doesn't like gloves maybe it's too sticky no sense to me it is like so much easier to catch in gloves maybe it's not for him there's no chance i'm not buying it like when i see d tackle like vita vea would never wear gloves i'm like do you just love fucking your fingers up just put some gloves on man you're gonna be it's gonna feel way better what's fucking his fingers up have you ever not worn a glove and tried to My right hand, I couldn't wear a glove on because I needed to snap the ball. Right? And I could not snap with a glove on.
I hate. I wanted so bad to put a glove on this hand because it would always get cut up.
It would always get bloodied. It would get bruised.
And I just couldn't grab as good. Like the materials on hand that they make the gloves with.
So you couldn't grab as good with the glove on but k dot and no i can't no that's what i mean i can grab as good with the glove but because i wasn't allowed to wear it i didn't get that mechanical advantage wait why weren't you allowed to wear it well i was allowed to but i couldn't snap the ball with it like stuck to the ball too much oh so it is too sticky in times yeah it's great for catching not for throwing sometimes yes absolutely i will agree with that i use it all the time paid manning was a hall of in times. Yeah, it's great for catching, not for throwing sometimes.
Yes, absolutely. I will agree with that.
Quarterbacks use it all the time. Peyton Manning was an all-fame quarterback.
Yeah, they use it. Yeah.
Well, I couldn't do it with the snapping, but this has nothing to do. There is absolutely nobody who cannot catch a ball better with those rubber, basically stick-em gloves on.
Like, I don't believe that. Some guys just got good sticky hands sticky hands man you don't see kate out here dropping the ball guy had a guy had nine catches i don't want to make this about kate i just think it's dumb when people don't take advantage of all of the what are you gonna call out dallas clark for the legendary career he had dallas clark was a phenomenal receiver and he would have been 10 times better if he could get phenomenal tight end whatever I'm sorry he would have been 10 times better if he could have had gloves on yeah he would have been catching it like 10 times better he would have been like Odell Beckham if he's catching the ball like that with no gloves he would have been like you're crazy he would have been out there plucking answers you're crazy dude dude I'm not buying this it is stupid worry.
It's not. Do tight ends just spend all week packing OCs for touches?

No, I haven't talked to my offensive coordinator about touches just because it's national tight end day.

You should just find like a different holiday or birthday or anything.

Tom, you know it's my birthday.

You know it's national 87 day?

Yeah.

Did you know it's national birthday. You know it's National 87 Day? Yeah.
Did you know it's National I Shaved My Mustache Day? Did you know it's National Hairy Chest Day? Just keep coming up with them every single week. Washington Hail Mary.
Let's get into a few other games, man. Maybe the play of the year so far.
The Commanders went down 15 to 12. Two seconds left on the clock.
Jaden Daniels scrambles around for a little bit and then just absolutely heaves a 66-yard pass. And when I say he threw that thing from about the 35-yard line, he threw it from about his own 35-yard line.
It was absolutely electric. It counted as a 52-yard Hail Mary.
but let's see this pass to Noah Brown. Create.
Let everybody get down there. Let everybody get down there.
Nice. Move around.
O-line's doing a great job. Shout out to Nicky Allegretti, Andrew Wiley, and then the heave.
You've got to have a tit man. You've got to have the tit man and then the guy in the front and the guy in the back is perfectly executed by the gang over there.
Kingsbury does a great job of making sure his guys know what to do in a situation like that. And you got great players making big-time plays towards the end.
I mean, the Bears thought they had that thing finished. Yeah.
They went up 15-12 with a few seconds left, and somehow they got into range to throw a fucking Hail Mary, man. Somehow.
Well, I mean, the first play. The first play is like.
That's what I'm saying. They didn't know somehow about it.
They were playing 50 yards off, playing Hail Mary on the play before. Like, what are you doing? Yeah, that's tough.
Like, you got to know. Bro, when they're on the 30-yard line, they're not throwing a Hail Mary.
If they're going to do anything, they're they're going to run like a gadget play to try and like it's either sideline or you're running like the the last play that you have which is like a a bunch of laterals right like nobody's throwing the hail mary from the 30 maybe i mean you can but don't usually happen right so it was surprising i mean they they they basically gave them 15 free yards to where now they are in Hail Mary territory.

That's tough.

They got guys talking trash.

I felt, I mean, Stevenson owned it.

Yeah, this one sucks, man. You got fans pointing at the play,

telling them that there's a play going on while he's taunting them.

It got snapped.

This is tough, man.

This is tough.

You don't really want to be doing that before the game's over with let alone while there while there could be a play being ran but obviously it's uh it's magnified because he's the one that tipped the ball fuck not only did he tip it but and trav i'll ask you this because you are the jumper on the Chiefs' defensive Hail Mary. Not all the time.
But, yeah, there's a situation where I've gone back there. Yeah, for sure.
Not only was he celebrating, which, I mean, that alone I feel like. And he's already announced that he fucked up.
He knows he fucked up. Yeah.
But then he also, when he jumped, he, like, swats up at the ball. I'm like, you're not supposed to do that either like everybody knows like do not hit that ball up you kind of want to stay behind i know it's harder we're acting like it's easier said everybody's you're trying to high point it you're trying to get it deflected so it's not just like a straight catch yeah um but you really want to spike that thing down you want to volleyball hit that thing down Two hands spike down is like the big because you get more surface area on the hand to hit it, get more control of it.
And I like to stay behind the ball and come at it. So you see how he's coming down the line of scrimmage? He was coming sideways because he was kind of late to it.
He wasn't even supposed to be the jumper. He was supposed to be the guy in the back.
I mean, everybody's got to try and make a play on the ball if they can. For sure.
Yeah, I'm not saying that. You don't know.
I don't know what their defensive rules were on this. Somebody was definitely supposed to be.
They came out and said he was supposed to be on Noah Brown. He was supposed to be on the guy in the back.
But either way, like you said, even the guy in the back can make a play on the ball if he has the opportunity, right? Like, everybody's got free reign for that. You've got to have somebody on there.
You ain't supposed to tip it up. Yeah.
I like to stay behind it. I like to stay behind the ball and be able to run forward at it.
That way I can meet the angle better. Yeah, try and knock it down.
Yeah. Either way, though, you got to try and deflect that thing down if possible, by all means.
And he couldn he couldn't get a good uh good hit on it man and uh it's just a bunch of a bunch of stuff that just sucks man because he's he's taking a lot of heat right now yeah right and um and you know he did the right thing by trying to yeah he owned up to it i mean that's all you can do and i think coach ibrafus is a great coach. I played against him when he was in Dallas a lot.
And he used to give me – him and Sean Lee and some of the backers they had. And I think he's a fantastic coach.
I don't even – this shouldn't have even been – this shouldn't have ever happened. I think if you make the right call on the first one and you play sideline, I just don't think you get into this situation to begin with.
Yeah, moving on, though. Let's talk a little Browns football, baby.
A little Believeland up there in the Lake Erie, baby. Hey, yo.
Jameis leads Browns in an upset victory. Jameis Winston made his first start since 2002 and led the Browns to an incredible comeback win.
Why do you think Jameis was able to come in and cook when the Browns had looked so bad on offense? Well, first of all, they had a new play caller. Ken Dorsey was calling plays in this game.
But I think also, like, Jameis came in and was Jameis. He had a bunch of turnover-worthy plays, and he had a bunch of highlight throws.
Like, this is who Jameis has career like at times james can make magic happen this is true come on this dude has something every game he plays it's going to be an electric play either good or bad and it is going to be the best soundbite of all time after the game and he's never changed and he still isn't changing he knows a white boy from detroit and like bro this was the quintessential james game he played great he had a lot of unbelievable plays he also had a couple plays that probably could have been turnovers that got dropped like he's gonna put points up he's gonna find a way to put points on the board it might be it's gonna be a high scoring game when james is involved for both teams, usually. I'm not trying to be.
Dude, I absolutely love watching Jameis. You already know.
We're big fans of Jay Winston, man. Most importantly, we got some more iconic quotes from Jameis, like you just mentioned, the guy up in the white boy from Detroit.
I love that he then followed it up with named Eminem. Everybody knows when you said you know a white boy in Detroit, who you're referencing.
There's a white boy from Detroit. I love that he then followed it up with named Eminem.
Like everybody knows when you said, you know, a white boy in Detroit, who you're referencing. There's a white boy from Detroit that I really admired named Eminem.
He said, you, uh, you only get one shot. Do not miss your chance to blow.
This is opportunity last once in a lifetime. I mean, it's great.
That was one, that was his quote after the game, before the game, though, he's in the huddle trying to get everyone fired up and ready for the game, and he says, every one of us has an – oh, here we go. One once in a lifetime.
And with those opportunities, we have to make the most of it. Every one of us have an individual responsibility to go out there and fight for each other.
Represent the names on your back. Represents the names that's on your helmet.
Well, we don't got to be careful. So represent the vines.
One play at a time. Together.
He's so good. He's genuinely himself, man.
That's why it's good. Because so many times when people are doing either the sound bites after the game or the motivational speeches, they're just latching on to like cliches and it ends up being like nothing exciting and everybody's just sitting there like oh my gosh will you shut up so we can go in there and freaking

get dressed for this freaking game already if you got the right one doing it though for sure and

james is the right one i would be as close to possible every time he's doing it because i'm

like i want to hear what this dude's about to say because it is going to be electric and fucking

hilarious i need to hear exactly what this dude's about to say at all times coach quote of the week

I'm going to show you to hear what this dude's about to say, because it is going to be electric and fucking hilarious. I need to hear exactly what this dude's about to say at all times.
Coach quote of the week. Sean Payton had a brutally honest quote about the Panthers in quotes.
That's not a good offense. We played.
It's just the truth. We expected that.
We're going to see a lot better teams. I mean, I mean, Sean Payton is always always fuck anymore he's always spoke his mind yeah he uh he had quite the words to say about uh nathaniel hatchet i think his name was he kind of walked that one back he knew he kind of went a little bit too hard he walked it back a little bit last year but because he took everybody was giving him shit for it yeah uh but he still spoke his mind panthers corner J.C.
Horn also confronted Sean Payton after the game, letting him know they didn't appreciate Denver running up the score. Interesting.
The Broncos ran a fake field goal and a trick play on fourth and two while up 40s. I mean, it's fucking hilarious is what that is.
That's fucked. What does he have against the panthers who knows it's just working on plays i guess i don't know just got to get it on film keep everybody honest on special teams building confidence fuck it man yeah all right listen pretty shitty but at the same time like dude this is the nfl i don't want to hear nobody getting salty about running this man it's the nfl when you're getting paid to do this you don't got no right to be complaining about that i hear you on that man you just gotta step up man stop the fake why are you guys trying uh we're literally it's our job all.
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Tackle game day with the irresistible taste of coke zero sugar is it the best coke ever i want to try it and decide for yourself why don't you tell us all righty jason got out of the house yet again man you keep doing this every monday don't you it's my job yes sir i have to leave the house in the three rivers the three rivers yes how about that man you were down on the uh on the rivers hanging out on the water yeah but yeah it was a lot of fun the fans made it fun steelers i mean dude they were into it scott van pelt pointed out to me something like every team wears their jerseys to games but in particular like steelers it is like everybody nobody is in that stadium that's a steelers fan without a pittsburgh steelers it's crazy man yeah it's like it's like that is the place you wear a sea of black and yellow yeah it's a crazy place to play in that's for damn sure we get to go out there in christmas uh while everybody's all fired up getting presents and shit uh jason you were waving around the terrible towel though i don't know how the birds fans uh appreciated this but hey man this is a gift from my man worldwide west oh yeah i forgot you were you're on like a world tour getting gifts from everybody this is cool that's right i'm getting i'm getting all sorts of good gifts knickknacks this this towel in particular has been to 17 different stadiums west said nice how about that he's been taking it everywhere he said if you drop it the rule is you got to kiss it rules are rules since this thing's been to 17 stadiums i'm going to try it's got some fade to it but i don't know if that's a sun fade or if that's faded from washed don't know can't tell you very interesting uh experience any cool steelers uh fan traditions the boat stuff is is pretty dope there was a guy that was like a flying Troy Palomalo is what he said. They get on these boards and they go out there.
Yeah, they got that. The terrible towel tradition and some of the lore behind that and having to kiss it if you drop it, I think it's pretty cool.
Outside of that, we got to hang out with the Coast Guard. Got to sit in front of a 50 cal gun on the front of those things, which I'm like, dude, i was like man this thing this thing can do some damage here dude i don't i know you guys aren't doing any damage but it's good to know that these guys got these things in case we need those things you ever shot one of those things what they had on it yeah a 50 cal machine gun no i have not shot a shot a 50 you haven't done that you need to when have you done it uh nevada viva las vegas baby where you can do fucking anything and uh i got on the top of an old jeep and they had some bowling pins sitting like about a fucking quarter mile half a mile down there and i just oh my god this is amazing it was electric dude i loved every side i do it again.
We need to get this shit done. Jason, you were in a Peaky Blinders outfit.
I don't know that this is necessarily peaky. I'm telling you, dude.
You pop up on that screen, nobody knows what the fuck you're about to show up looking like. And it's impressive to me.
I mean, you don't always pull off the dapper look like this, man. You got your old Englishman hat and that corduroy jacket, man.
I mean, that thing is sweet, dude. The corduroy suit was nice.
Looking like a smooth operator up there, dude. The corduroy suit was real nice.
And the last game we were at in Buffalo, it was windy. And I was like, dude, I got to have something thicker.
I got to have some thicker material if we're out here. There you go.
That's a smoker's jacket or something. At night and fall.
So the corduroy definitely was way warmer. And then the hat just kept the heat in nicely.

Nice.

Well, we can't pass by you rocking the old 2-5.

That's right, Ryan Clark's old jersey.

That's right.

Down by the water, man, showing some love to a legendary Steeler.

And your, what would you call him?

Your new teammate.

My deskmate? Your deskmate. Nice.
I like teammate, man. Your new deskmate.
Well, I call him? Your new teammate. My deskmate?

Your deskmate.

Nice.

I like teammate better.

Your new deskmate.

Well, I guess it isn't new anymore.

It's week eight.

ESPN tweeted out, in quotes, some people would say you are a snack, especially in that outfit.

I guess that's what SVP said?

Well, that's what this woman was wearing.

Oh, is that?

Oh, nice. I'm just here for Jason Kelsey and snacks.
Oh, nice. And he was mentioning how...
And then he followed it up with some people would say, you are a snack. Yeah.
Especially in that outfit. Yeah, you are.
You dapper son of a buck. And then somebody else, I think it might have been Scott or maybe it was Marcus, said, good thing Kylie's not here.
I mean, everybody's just showing love. Showing love to J.
Kells up there, man. Well, it was fun.
Pittsburgh was awesome. The fans were into it.
The terrible time was electric, waving that thing around and seeing everybody else wave it around. It's like a call and response.
Pretty dope. The Yinzers.
Yeah. So yeah, I'm just kind of accumulating knickknacks.
I respect it, man. You get all those trinkets.
I got my chicken wing necklace. That's a Mama Kelsey move right there.
That is a Mama. Dude, every time she would go on a convention, she would come back with a million pens.
Just a bag of shit. Yeah.
Just slinkies and fucking bouncy balls and fucking light-up pens. Dude, you name it, dude.
We used to be like, God damn, is this Christmas? All these little stocking stuffers, mama. That shit's the best.
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All right. Now, it's officially time to bring on our guest.
That's right. We are not professional at all.
So we're just going to have a fun couple with you, all right? You want to make sure that you knew ahead of time that this is amateur hour over here. Okay, let's get into it.
So very similar to my acting ability, but all right, here we go. Can I just say something? Please.
Of course. Thomas, I'm so glad that you texted me and told me you had a new phone number because I've been texting your number trying to just gassing you up telling you you did so good I was asking you like what did your teammates what your people say like you know how you feeling about it did you watch it and you know what I got crickets crickets I said I know you ain't got brand new not me I did have to switch it up though did you see how I shook my neck around when I said it cause that's what I meant I know you didn't get brand new not me you know me better than that it was getting crazy I was finally in a show with someone as amazing as you I had everybody hitting me up, blowing me up I had to switch it up on them I'm sorry about that you already know and I'll tell you.
I had everybody hitting me up, blowing me up. I had to switch it up on them, man.
No, I'm sorry about that. You already know.
And I'll tell you what, I got clowned once I started talking about that banana hammock. Ah! Hey! So this is what I've been wanting.
I know you've used it. Big Peter and the banana splitter.
That's my favorite. All of it.
That's my favorite line. What do your teammates think of it? They're very interested in the dynamic on the show.
Like, everybody's kind of, like, mind-blowing on, like, what's really going on during the show. So that is kind of, like, taking, like, everybody's mind away from me as an actor.
They're just, they're in, they're involved in, like. They're engulfed in the story.
Yeah, they're eng the story now so it's like that's how you know it's good yeah exactly and then uh and then during the uh the character switch up uh the look is where i started getting clown there was that mullet the mullet suited me in the show but does not suit me outside of it so i know chris jones has told has said something about this show i know chris jones You know what? Chris hasn't, Chris hasn't, hasn't came up to me yet. I hope he does though.
I hope he does. Cause nine five is hilarious, man.
He's one of a kind. I love it.
I love it. I just want to say, I thought you did such a good job.
I appreciate that. Nisi.
I hope you're not one of those people who are afraid to watch yourself because I want you to be proud of yourself. I really do.
I was definitely watching myself, but it's the same thing with like my,

my view on football or really anything that I do, even like the TV, the, the game show that I did

on Amazon. It's, I look at myself and I'm like, man, I could have did that better.
I could have

did this better. I could have did this better.
And I just always have this mentality of like

wanting to do things better than what I did on camera or what I've done in the past. And

But that's... better.
I could have did this better. And I just always have this mentality of like wanting to do things better than what I did on camera or what I've done in the past.
And, um, so I just grow. That's how you grow.
We all do that. We all look at it and say, Ooh, I should have made a different choice.
So then the next time you get on camera, you're, you're going to remember that. Yeah.
One hundred percent. Yeah.
That was a question I wanted to ask you when we watch ourselves on on tape i feel like every great football player kind of hates the way they play football they're always trying to get better is it similar when like actresses or actors are like watching themselves on tape are they like oh i wish i would have done that yeah it's it's similar you know some people do not watch themselves really absolutely at our place like, I can't. I don't want to watch it.
I walk away from it when it's done and I don't think about it. Not me.
If I could watch every take back in the moment, I would. Because I like to course correct and self-adjust in the moment.
So what I do is I try to give different, slightly different reads every time so that they have something to work with in the edit. Right.
You're so good at that. I remember the first scene we had.
I was just sticking to the script. I was on I was like word for word trying to just stick to the script.
I wasn't trying to waste anybody's time. And you do like you lighten the mood.
You made it so comfortable as a professional. And I did see that you were looking at the takes and like you could see like you were processing how you were doing things.
And it was so cool to see your professionalism and everything on set. Before we get to any more questions, we got to get the intro, Jason.
Yeah, I know. We were having such a good conversation.
We got to get the intro. What's the intro? What do we got to do? I'm going to knock it out.
We're going to go right back to what we were doing, but I'm going to do this intro real quick just to hype this up a little bit. All right.
From Cal State University, she's a daytime and primetime Emmy award-winning actress. You know her from her work in Reno 911, getting on, Claus Dahmer, and, of course, alongside Travis in Grotesque at E.
She is also our first non-relative female guest. Yes, that's right.
That is right. Please welcome the wonderful Miss Niecy Nash.
Miss Niecy Nash Betts in the house. I should say Mrs.
Niecy Nash Betts. I love that.
And I love that I'm the first woman who's a non-relative. Yeah, we had to get a real one.
We were waiting for a real one to come available. We appreciate you jumping on with us.
You already know. We had so much fun shooting Grotesquerie.
And it was definitely, it was something that I was so blown away by in terms of, we kind of mentioned that already, but your professionalism and just how you made set fun doing the TikToks, making everybody feel like they were a part of the team. You made it a team atmosphere.
And that's, that's where I really started to feel comfortable

in doing everything. And I, uh, I can't thank you enough for, uh, for everything you've shown me and,

uh, making everything so much fun. Well, you know, the thing of it, the thing of it is,

is that the show is so dark.

So I wanted to make sure that in the in-betweens, like,

Thank you. Well, you know, the thing of it, the thing of it is, is that the show is so dark.
So I wanted to make sure that in the in-betweens, like we sitting around looking at dead bodies all day and blood is on the ground and you know what I mean? We in the hospital set all day. I wanted to make sure that I kept the crew up.
so that we can still have fun at work. A lot of people go to work and do not have fun.

And I'm like crew up. Oh, yeah.
You know, so that we definitely have fun at work. You know, a lot of people go to work and do not have fun.
And I'm like, no, I want everybody to feel like we're having a good time. You know? Oh, yeah.
Well, you definitely did that. That's for sure.
Well, speaking of everybody on set, everyone wants to know what it was like working next to the diva that is Travis Kelsey. How much did you have to hold his hand? He did fantastic.
He really looks great. But I know that just like in football, it's only as good as the people around you and the supporting cast.
And that's the truth. The other people that you're on set with.
So, yeah, what was it like working with the Trav man on an acting set? I'm going to say this. I've said this behind your back.
I love where you're prefacing this already. So I'm going to say it to your face.
I have, listen, you are probably the nicest and the greediest person I've ever met in my life. Wow! You are so, you are so greedy.
And, and, and, and you bougie greedy. Oh, my goodness.
Have you ever met anybody that was bougie greedy? Ladies and gentlemen, right here. This man right here.
I like nice things. Okay, so here's the thing.
It's one thing to be like, oh, hey, and I seen you do this. I had somebody run out and give me a couple of burgers and, you know, okay.
But then somebody, I'm like, what's that you eating now? My chef prepared me. I'm like, what? Every time, anytime he was not filming, he was eating.
I told Travis, I said, hey, we got this scene. They're going to put food out.
Maybe you don't want to eat a lot because whatever you do in the first take, you got to keep it up all day. He's like, them meatballs look good.
I'm like, right? But maybe and now you 15 and 20 meatballs in. I'm like, now how you feel? Like I need some more caffeine.
You are too funny for that. That is great.
I was just trying to make sure I was, you know, eating dietary. You know, I had my diet.
I had my nutrition stuff that I had to do in the offseason. I'm making up a whole bunch of shit.
I just wanted to go ahead. I was just hungry.
You already know Chef Koo in the house, baby. Hooking it up out there in California, man.
That is too funny. That's so funny you picked up on that.
No, but he was a pleasure. It was a pleasure to have on set.
And I love that he didn't take himself too seriously. I even had our crew give him different things that he could do for when you do a field time.
What is it when you make the point? Oh, yeah, the touchdown. Oh, yeah, the touchdown.
Yeah, the TikTok. And I had field time.
Field time. Yeah, field time.
I don't know sports that much, but I had people give him different ideas for dances he could do. Oh, yeah, I still got to hit a few of those.
I haven't been in the end zone enough this year to hit him but he got in this week you know your favorite one was a little kid the little kid hey hey hey you killed that one i still gotta hit it you already know it's coming up next touchdown i get i i'm hitting that one is there like uh is there like a etiquette when you're on set with somebody that like actors and actresses know?

Did you have to really help him acclimate to like this world?

Does that make sense?

Yes, I do. And one thing that I would say is like sometimes when you don't know everybody or you're new to a set, you kind of are unto yourself.

He got the, you know, the folk he come with. And it's like, no, come over here.
Talk to, come on. The water's fine.
We're going to run the words. And you know, what I wanted to also try to help you do, Trav, was to trust your gift.
Like you're naturally charming. You got a little swag about yourself.

Use all of those things and don't be married to the words. Yeah.
Because we had the luxury of this, of kind of moving the words around a little bit. So how they may feel better in your mouth, you can kind of switch them up a little bit.
And I love that, you know, he just lean right in. He was like, okay,

got it. Let me try this.
Let me

try that.

You know, he just leaned right in. He was like, okay, got it.
Let me try this. Let me try that, you know, and I just think it turned out great.
Yeah. I appreciate that.
Thank you. And the show really is so much fun.
It really is so cool to like watch. It could be a part of something like that and see it kind of like just the final edits and it finally hit the TV.
It is so cool to be a part of it and i can't thank you and obviously ryan and uh courtney b and everybody involved that shit was so much fun do you know when we had the um when we had the premiere so mama kelsey can she was cute she was cute as a butt had a little outfit like, okay, girl. And so I was able to talk to her at the after party.
And when I tell you, she could not have been prouder of you. You know what I mean? And I'm a mom of three.
And, you know, sometimes you clap for your kids because you have to. You're like, oh, okay, baby.
Look at her. And then sometimes you're like, no.
The whole, what I like was watching your mama watch the audience. Because when people were going up in the theater, she was looking around like, that's my baby.
You know, it was nice. It was nice.
Making Mama Kel's proud is always one of my favorite things to do. I appreciate you sharing that.
Yeah. If some of this was your guys' freedom of expression, was it Travis's choice to have the mullet with Ed Lachlan? What was that look about? We had to switch it up, man.
You're Rico Suave one second, and then you look like you crawled out of a swamp in the next scene. And I loved it so much.

Because all of the characters had a duality that we played.

Because part of it is in Lois' coma state, how she saw people.

And then you got the real life when she wakes up.

Yeah, but we still don't even know.

There might be another state.

Nisi, I don't know what's happening in this show right now. I am so confused.
I cannot wait for the finale. That's so good.
Let me help you. Give you a little bit.
Can I give you my theory? Go. Do it.
Let's hear this. My theory, and my first thought was, this gives me this.
It feels like we're in like a mental hospital that was my first thought when I saw the show then I'm like okay okay now now Lois is in the coma maybe and then she's and then that got revealed and that came out I didn't know you would be in a coma too there was a lot of signs of reddit was all over the place saying she's in a coma like you're just reading comments this guy did I did but but the first one though i was like this feels like for some reason it felt like it was in a mental hospital now i'm back into that i feel like lois and some of these characters are in some type of institution i don't really know what's happening but that's kind of my theory so it's not fully put together oh my god jason can I tell you right now? You are so wrong.

Travis has been telling me I'm way off

the whole time. I've been trying to tell this guy.

He doesn't have a fucking clue.

He's just so stubborn

in his ways. He's just like, I know.

I was like, maybe Lois and Merit

are the same person.

I'm like, try it. I don't know.
Oh, you're reaching. Oh, you're reaching.
All right, all right. He's in his own head.
Yeah. Pump the brakes, brother.
All right, I will pump the brakes. Okay, you said you could help me.
Help me out. Help me out.
Okay, so the beginning of the series, Lois is in a coma. And this is everything that's happening in her mind.
By the time you get to episode seven, that's the reveal. She was really in a coma all of those other episodes.
Now she's awake and this is her waking life. The problem in her waking life is that somebody started to recreate the murders that were in her dreams.

Right.

So who knows?

You could hear the doctor and you could hear people talking when you were in the coma and that was impacting.

So who is the person who is really committing these murders based on her dreams?

I know.

I don't. I know you don't know.
I just heard your theory. I know you don't know.
I'm way off. It's such a, it's such a fun story to, to, to be a part of though.
I'm assuming Ryan came to you with this. Yeah.
Let's just talk about that for a little bit. How, like you've been in a few other Ryan ryan murphy uh projects correct yes i did um scream queens i did monster the jeffrey dommer story yep and one other thing that we did a pilot for that never got picked up and i was in his very first series called popular as a guest star yeah so we've worked together a couple times nice you guys have such a fun relationship.
How has that been like growing, especially winning all these Emmys together and just taking over the TV world?

You know, it's so important to me for people that I care about.

I consider I have a friendship. I love that I do good work for them.

I never want to phone it in and rest on the relationship I have with somebody to be like, oh, you know, I could just do whatever. So it's so important for me to get it right, especially for people that I love.
And then the awards are just the icing on the cake. That's awesome.
Well, it's fun as hell working with Ryan. And it sounds like you got another one.
Are we allowed to say you got another one in the works? You can say it because I got to be there

tomorrow morning.

Yeah, I'm doing

Ryan's new

series. It's called All's Fair.

It's about a female,

an all-female law firm

led by Kim

Kardashian,

Naomi Watts, Glenn Close,

Sarah Paulson, Tiana Taylor, and me.

Oh, wow.

We're the gals.

We're talking about a cast.

Wow.

That would be awesome.

We talked about a little bit earlier that you watch yourself on film.

Do you have a favorite role that, like, in your head, that's your favorite role you've

ever done?

That's a great question.

See, that's tricky because for a long time, because I started in comedy, I never got the opportunity to play any drama because people thought, oh, we know you. You're the funny girl.
And I didn't get a chance. So I have things that I did in my funny life that I love because I was in that world longer than this one.
But, oh, that's so hard to pick one. But I would say I did a series on HBO called Getting On.
I did three seasons of it. It was an industry, darling, but it didn't catch on to the masses.
But when the industry saw me do that, they started to trust me with with drama so that was the role that changed my life because it allowed me to show people that I'm not just a one-trick pony I got a lot of tricks up in here hey multiple tricks they do it's actually very cool you were talking about how you started off in comedy that really wasn't like the lane that you like wanted to choose. We were kind of talking about this on set one day.
No, I never wanted to be funny. Let me tell you, Jason, I told you, I said, I never wanted to be funny because I didn't think it was anything.
All I did, all funny got me was being in trouble. I got suspended at school.

I got pinched at church.

I got...

They put

talks too much on my report card.

So my mama said, well, what was you talking about?

I was telling jokes.

She said,

go get the belt.

I got a joke.

So I didn't think funny was anything.

People are going to give me money for acting silly.

And my mother used to tell me that all the time.

Girl, you so silly.

So I didn't think, I just didn't think it was anything.

It sounds like you were born to be an actress and a comedian.

That's what it sounds like.

I guess so.

Then I booked Reno 911 and everything changed.

Y'all gonna give me money for acting foolish?

This is crazy town.

So is, is it, let me ask you this. Is comedy easier than drama?

What comes more natural or which one do you have to do more preparation for?

Okay. For me, comedy,

you use the word easier, but I guess if I had to choose, I would say that because I was born funny. You're just more naturally that.
The other side, I really have to work to make sure the performance is grounded. I get it right.
You know, all of the things. And let me tell you, speaking of mamas, my mama was the one that told me, she said, now, you know, when you do your comedies, now you real funny, but that other stuff, you need to work on that.
She told me, she said, I must tell you, my mother said, you find the best class in town and I'm gonna work overtime to pay for your classes. That's a real mom.
And, and that's how we got here because the other is probably harder for me. Yeah.
Yeah. Do you, such a cool story though.
That was one of the things that's really unique about this role in particular with Lois is that, like you said, there's multiple states of her mind frame and you're just killing it. Yeah.
Do you map all that out? Like, okay, now I'm in this mindset as Lois where this is happening. So I'm going to respond body language and like kind of mentality this way towards this actor.
The thing of it is, Jason, is that for me, the hardest thing about her is where is she in the addiction? Yes. Okay.
She suffers from alcoholism. So is she hammered? Is she hungover? Is she tipsy? Interesting.
How many drinks in, you know, does she need a drink really bad right now? And she's trying to, what am I playing in each moment of her addiction? Because that's the hardest part, you know, for me, where is she at this point in this moment to moment in the story with the addiction? Absolutely. And you nail it.
In each one, you can tell when you are like... The scene between you, Trav, and Merit, where you're confronting each other in the booth, that scene is electric.
When I tell you, you have no idea. I was like, excuse me? What just came out of there? That was like, you know how we always talk about welcome to your NFL moment? Yeah.
That was my welcome to acting moment. Seeing Nisi absolutely kill it in that scene and being a part of that scene.
That was definitely my favorite one to be a part of for sure. It was so cool to see her smack the glass and walk out of there you know what was funny about that night trap was that i was doing all this you were like get up you're going to rehab and i'm like you don't tell me what to do all that in intensity and then they would go cut and we would be like in the middle of the thing that video.
I was like, look at these culprits right here. These are the ones.
We're doing all of this fun stuff. And then they'll be like, and we're back in action.
And then I'm like, you know. So it was, you know, once you find it.
But once you find it, I can drop back in it. After I've mapped it out and know what I'm doing, then I could play with y'all, you know, behind the scenes.
You know what I mean? And mapping out that addiction was the hardest part. That's so cool.
Well, we got the season finale coming up tonight when this airs. I'm looking forward to it.
Apparently, my theories have been way off, so I can't wait to see what actually is the case. Oh, you have no idea.
At first, I thought Travis was the killer. At first, I thought for sure it was you.
There's the one scene where you're in it, and you're walking in the background. I'm like, what's this dude doing? He's lurking.
I know that figure. You've seen those shadows before, Jason.
Let me tell you about people who text me about Travis. They all started off saying, you know, we're watching the thing.
Is he the killer? Yeah. Just to get you on the line texting him.
Yeah. And then they're like, well, what do you know about his relationship? Exactly.
You know how it goes. I'm like, man, get off that man business.
I'm a ball. I don't say nothing.
You ain't getting nothing out of me. You're a real one.
Y'all just being nosy. Don't ask me nothing.
Oh, man. Oh, my goodness.
That's great. I appreciate you always.
And every time someone that has a mic in front of you always asks you you something like that thank you for always showing love you know it's real and you know that me and tay are absolutely happy and i appreciate you always making sure that everybody knows that so thank you honey i'm on my black business you understand me i'm still here to worry about myself and what i got going oh my goodness no you're the best all right well make sure everyone checks out Grotesque Re on FX tonight, the season finale. We're going to keep moving this on to, was it your first Chiefs game? I've heard, like, multiple stories now.
When you were with Mama Kels, was that your first Chiefs game you've ever been to? Very first. But, wait, no.
Let me take that lie back, because I saw y'all play against each other. You were at the Super Bowl? I was at that game.
At the Super Bowl. I saw you guys play against each other.
Matter of fact, I had to hook up that so I walked out on the field. I walked out on the field.
Uh-huh. And my sister told me, she said, I don't care what you do.
You put on an all green outfit and you represent me. And so.
So you were Eagles? I had on my green sweatsuit. I was up there doing this.
Fly Eagles fly. I had my green sweatsuit on.
Me, JB, my son, we all showed up. Yeah.
And yeah, so I got to see you both play together in that game. Yeah.
And then we went to the game. I like to not think about that game.
Maybe I've done some roles and I'm like, God, I wish it would go away. But then we all came to see Travis.
And let me tell you. We go to the game out here in LA.
He was just trying to act like he was so professional as a football player. He's like, I don't know if we're going to take pitches and stuff because I'm so focused.
I'm like, okay. Then he came out there with that stupid mustache.
He came out there with that stupid mustache. He was all on the field and all his boys was like, yo, there go your girl right there.
There go your girl right there. He's going to look over.
He was like, I said it. I respect your process.
I'm just giving you a heart. Oh, I love it.
I love it too. It's so good.
I totally respect your process. You know what I mean? I appreciate it.
You got to stay in the zone and you got to do what the people who paying you want you to do. I'm not tripping about that.
I was more offended at the mustache. It's gone now.
It's gone now. I see.
You finally back to looking decent. Exactly.
Exactly. That was, you never know.
I might have just been, you know, having that look for another role or something. Oh, okay.
Okay. Hollywood over here.
All right. So when you were at the game with mom, what was it like? Yeah, you saw Mama Kelsey at the game too.
Do you like watching football games? I do. It was so much fun.
She was loving. She had her homegirl with her.
And we all took pictures together. And then, you know, you run with a great group of guys.
You know, the guys. I appreciate that.
And they all came and checked on us you good you need this you need that then we went over to your podcast had a suite oh nice we got our podcast swag oh nice from over there they treated you right oh yeah everybody treated us so that was that was mama kelsey she said we're going over to the. Come on.
You're part of the fan. We went over there with her.
Yes. And got us some swag and all the good things.
So everybody really took such good care of us. We had great seats.
Thank you. Oh, I'll wait.
You know, you know, yeah, it was a really good time. I mean, I would do it again for sure.
Are you a Rams fan being from LA or a Raiders? Who's your team? I like all the LA teams. I don't have just one.
Chargers, Rams. I don't break them up.
You know what I mean? I love the when you're in the game, when you actually go to a game better than on TV because everybody is so dressed up in all their regalia and people are cheering and people booing. You know what I mean? All of the crowd energy.
The pageantry. I like that part.

You got a game in Vegas coming up.

We just had it last week, and

we ended up beating the Raiders out there

in Vegas.

You had that game already.

It was literally just last week.

I thought it was around Thanksgiving. I was

going to pull up.

You know what? We play the Raiders in KC. Yeah, on Friday, right? Yeah.
So it's the Friday after Thanksgiving. That one's in Kansas City, though.
You're more than welcome. You can come on up to KC.
Roll on out. You want to hear some electric crowd.
Now, Kansas City has it for you. I want you to roll the red carpet out if I come to Kansas City.
Come on now. There we go.
Listen, you already know I'm rolling the red carpet out for you. Every time.
Every time. Everybody you're with, you know I got you.
Do you have any questions about football? I know we just had a touchdown. Are there any phrases or anything you want to ask us about the sport of football that we can help you with? You know what? I'm glad you asked that.
Because I called, what did I, the thing I got wrong. I said field time, but what is it? Field time.
Touchdown. Touchdown.
Touchdown. Okay.
So I don't really understand false start. Does that mean that they moved before the win? I don't know what that means.
They go false start? You don't have to. So basically, Nisi, if you become set as an offensive player and you think the ball is getting snapped and you move or flinch, that is a false start.
Oh, you can't even flinch. So you're not allowed to move forward before the ball is snapped on offense.
And the same thing on defense. You can't cross that line of scrimmage until the ball is snapped.
That's called offsides on defense or encroachment. Like a false start is only on the offense, and it's when the offense moves forward or gives an action as if the play is starting before the ball is snapped.
And they don't deduct points for that. No, you just move back five yards.
Oh, that's mean. There's no, there's no, yeah.
Now, why do they, why do they, why do they, why do they say they penalize you if you make a touchdown and you celebrate? Like, why do they, I gave you a whole group of dances to do. Why won't they let you celebrate if you, if you get a touchdown? You see,'re speaking on behalf of i think every fan majority of the fans and nfl players yeah yeah i think everybody wants to see more dancing you can dance you just can't twerk they're restrictive can't some dances and can't do sexual dances and two yeah you can't only two pumps or three pumps only two pumps no pumps you can't pump you can't simulate you can't simulate any type of weaponry so any type of gun or anything will get you use that will get you a taunting foul oh you can't do that no but if you do it do does that mean that they push your team back again or or what do they do yeah you would you would get a 15-yard either unsportsmanlike or taunting penalty.
And then you get a FedEx. And then you would get fined, potentially.
You get a FedEx delivery at your locker that tells you you just got fined for not representing the NFL in the proper way. Yeah.
Have you ever got a FedEx? Are you kidding me? You know it. Travis travis is basically a fedex he's basically part-time fedex delivery man yeah i like that i like to play the game for the love of the game i'm gonna do it and i'm gonna pay my fine so every now and then every now and then i've i've i've become more regarded and haven't really done it as much but uh my earlier years i was not afraid to get fined he was a wild boy oh my Oh, my goodness many ways i've gotten i've gotten ejected from a game because i did something silly like that but that's a story for another day threw a flag at an official oh wow all right we're gonna ask you some questions now again nisi in our this next segment we have it's called we gotta ask you don't have to answer? And it's exactly what it sounds like.
We're just going to ask you some rapid fire questions. Okay, go.
You decide if you want to answer. Jason, go ahead and jump it off.
We mentioned it earlier, but can I just ask about Reno 911? That was one of Travis and I's favorite shows growing up. Oh, yeah.
Oh. You were fantastic.
How fun was it working on that show? Because it looked like the cast just loved each other and everything that happened in that show. It was a lot of fun.
Great fun. The worst thing about it and the best thing about it was the booty that I wore in it.
It was they took a mold of my real butt, magnified it three times. And in the winter when we shot, it was great because I was never cold outside.
I was always born. It can't be nice and warm.
But in the summertime, I felt like I was about to die. Yeah, yeah.
That's bad. Yeah.
I can see how that would not be good. Yes.
Okay, go. What's the next one? So you had the BBL in the Reno 9.
I did. Before it was even popular.
Before it was even popular.

Right?

It's too good.

Best and worst audition.

My best and my worst are the same audition.

Really?

How's that possible?

It was my very first audition.

And I walked in and I didn't know that you read and they'll tell you later.

So I said, I've read the material. And the guy said, thank you.
I said, you're welcome. He said, thank you.
And I said, don't mention it. He was like, thank you.
You may go. I said, oh, y'all are telling me to leave.
What did y'all pick me? He was like, someone will let you know, dear.

And I said, telling me to leave. Would the job pick me? He was like, someone will let you know, dear.

And I said, let me know when.

I'm broke.

I got a baby.

I need a job.

You can't just keep me on ice like this.

So I cut up.

I pointed my finger in their face and told them how mad I was.

And then they still ended up calling me and giving me the job.

It was my very first movie. And I was in it with Whoopi Goldberg, Drew Barrymore it was called Boys on the Side and I played Woman in the Diner yes yes yes who's the better game show host, you or Travis? Me.
There we go. That was easy.
Next question. I could have told you that one.
You've done everything from movies, TV, game show reality, voiceover work. If you could only do one for the rest of your career, what would it be? Jesus.
TV. What's the biggest difference from TVs and movies from your perspective? TV, you build a family.
Like if you, because it goes on for years. You love these people.
You go to their weddings. You see their kids graduate.
You have more of a family. A movie, you in it for a couple weeks and then you like deuces.
On to the next. So I do like, you know.
Like the team. It's like having a team.
Yeah. I like that part about doing television.

That's awesome.

That's awesome.

Do you have a favorite co-star?

Speaking of family, do you have a favorite co-star?

Obviously, can't say Travis.

Travis is excluded.

Not that he was going to be the answer. Ever, yeah.

He's worked with the best.

My favorite person that I ever worked with on camera is the one I lay next to every night.

Okay.

My spouse.

When we can share our art together, it's when I'm the happiest. Oh, that's so cool.
Love that. Love that.
True story. That's awesome.
I love that. You know I'm a lover, Travis.
Very much so. Because you like the team.
You like to feel a part of it all. Come on.
Do you have a welcome to Hollywood moment? My welcome to Hollywood. Kind of how I was describing like a welcome to the NFL moment.
Yeah, go ahead. I do.
I went to audition for something and I had all of this stuff on the back of my resume. I didn't know everything I had on the back of it was trash.
Okay. And the guy, he was an assistant at the time said, girlfriend, come here.
He said, I'm going to help you with this. And he crossed all the, he said, nobody cares that you were the second winner up in a beauty pageant.
Let me cross that out. Nobody cares.
He just, all the little things that I, and they were little things, but I was trying to make my resume look like something. He cost everything out.
And I said, but I'm about to go in there with my picture and I only have one thing on it. And he said, but it's the right thing.
And we became dear friends. He became a big deal casting director.
And now he's the head muckety muck at a network network and it was the moment where somebody reached across the line and was like come here baby because you don't know no better and i was like okay you know it was the first time that i felt like i had somebody to just look out for me yeah that's i believed in you for whatever reason yeah that's awesome but oh wait here's oh, wait. Here's the other one, and I'm going to squeeze this in.

Yeah, please do.

I'm a little girl.

I'm eight years old.

I see this actor on Hollywood Boulevard where all the stars were.

And I said, Daddy, that man is an actor.

He said, baby, that's Ed Asner.

He used to be on the Mary Tyler Moore show.

I said, I walked over there and I said, sir, I know you're an actor and you don't know me,

but my name is going to be right here on this ground.

He was like, yeah, kid, scram. Get out of here.
Scram, man. I said, sir, I know you're an actor and you don't know me, but my name is going to be right here on this ground.
He was like, yeah, kid, Scram. Get out of here.
Scram, yeah, I say, Scram. Yeah.
He walked away and I said, remember my name. I ended up getting a star on the Hollywood Hall of Fame.
I sent him a letter. We told you, motherfucker.
I don't know if you remember me. You know, this happened between us.
And he said, of course I know your name. I'm glad you didn't let me discourage you, but I'm not able to come to your ceremony.
I said, okay, well, thank you. And the day before, his assistant called my team and said, he'll be there.
I could not even look at him. I had to just look this way because my fake eyelashes was about to fall off from crying.
And so Ed Asner, you know, 40 years later, showed up at my star ceremony. That's unbelievable.
And it said to me, the power of the spoken word. I spoke that thing.
I mean, you know, it took a long time to manifest. But it still manifested.
Oh, yeah. Yes, it did.
It manifested beautifully. All right.
It's Halloween Eve. Yes.
Wednesday will be Halloween. Yeah.
Do you have a go-to Halloween movie? No, but I go hard with a costume. Okay.
Oh, nice. So have you already won your Halloween costume this year? I'm getting ready to take photos for it when I stop talking to you.
Okay. Nice.
What are we doing? Are you allowed to reveal it since it's going to be tomorrow? Or is it a surprise? Or is it a surprise? You want to keep it a surprise? It's cool. You can keep it a surprise.
It's a surprise. I'm going to let it be a surprise.
Well, we'll be tuned in. We'll be tuned in.
Can't wait to see it. We do couples costumes.
So we always try to figure out some sort of iconic couple. What were you guys last year? Last year, I was Jessica Rabbit.
My better half was the detective. Love that.
The year before that, we were ASAP, Rocky, and Rihanna at the Met. Nice.
The year before that, we were Kelly and N rocky and rihanna at the met nice okay the year before that we were kelly and

nelly from the dilemma video oh okay classic we figure out some yeah classic i already know

yeah we had some uh teammates chris jones on the show earlier i'm 95 for the for the defense on on

the chiefs if you're not familiar he described his first impression of me as Malibu's most wanted. You were actually in that movie.
Do you agree or disagree? I absolutely disagree. You don't think Travis is B-Rad? He's not B-Rad? Tell him to eat eat you don't know what he is talking about absolutely not absolutely not I enjoy a good getting toasted though that's the best last question do you have any advice for other athletes trying to break into acting you know I would say if you're serious about it take class because because you want to be prepared.
You want to know the lingo. You know, if they tell you camera left, what does that mean to you? You want, if they say hit your mark, if they say any of the language of a set, you just want to be familiar because you don't, you know, you're not going to be as comfortable if you feel like a fish out of water so I would say prepare and get you a Nisi I was literally just about to say that I was like make sure you work with somebody as good as Nisi because it makes it a whole lot easier on you Nisi Nash Betts ladies and gentlemen thank you so much and everybody make sure you check out Grotesquerie tonight the season finale on fx uh it's gonna be absolutely mind-blowing and uh congrats on all the success nisi we are so happy and so honored that you came on the show and of course you are the you are the absolute and we're gonna be tuned in we're gonna be tuned in on this uh this halloween costume oh you better that's Bye, y'all.
See you. See you, Nisi.
And that wraps up another episode of New Heights. Thank you to our guest, Nisi Nash.
Nisi. That's right.
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How about that?

Jets, Jake, the darkness.

Check in.

We got to get him in here.

Come on, Jets.

Come on in here, Jake.

Can't wait to hear your take on this week.

Man.

I mean, dude, it's almost.

Just when you. Every single week, I just think they're going to figure it out.
They got this figured out. It's going to happen.
They got a good opportunity. They're playing the Patriots.
Their coach just called them the softest team. He just called them soft the week before.
They go out. They've traded for Adams.
They've made all these picks. All this stuff has happened.
And then it turns out the Patriots got hard somehow and found a way to beat the Jets. What do you got to say, Jet? Got hard.
Chill out. They got tough.
They found some Viagra sitting around and they They swelled up on them. They fucked me.
Jesus. Come on.
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