Bye Week Baseball, Eagles ‘Constipated Offense’ and Defending Kickers with Pat McAfee | Ep 105

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Speaker 1 Dude, anything that combines crackers, meat, cheese, and mustard, it doesn't matter what kind it is. You got Pepper Jack.
You got Provolone.

Speaker 1 You got cheddar. You got beer cheese.
You got salami. You got kilbasa.
There you go. Don't be all archy with me.
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Speaker 1 You said for years I've been thinking about this.

Speaker 1 That's what you said.

Speaker 1 For years I've been thinking about we've been talking about this. Yeah, you've been laying at night thinking like, I need to get this into a show somehow.
Oh, gosh.

Speaker 1 This is why you did the college game day. You're starting to bring the fans out of here for talking shit.
That's right. Jason, do you think you could fucking kick a field goal? Bingo! You know what?

Speaker 1 I don't know if my hips got me in it. We might have to find this out.

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Speaker 1 And Jason, you're now going to tell the people what we got coming up. Well, we got another incredible episode lined up for all you 92%ers.

Speaker 1 We're going to talk about both our weekends out of the house, the Eagles' big win against the Brownies. And we're going to be joined by a very special guest

Speaker 1 who's definitely going to destroy me for my take on getting rid of kickers. Absolutely ridiculous.
But yeah, it's the one and only, the Jinzer himself.

Speaker 1 McAfee. Ha ha, we got him.
We've been waiting for this one for a long time. Love Pat, man.
I mean, probably most legendary media person out there right now. Dude, Dude, so good.

Speaker 1 Just ridiculously talented. I cannot wait to talk to him about this last one, this one in Eugene, Oregon over this past weekend.
He got everybody to start cheering, singing along, to shout.

Speaker 1 And oh my fucking gosh, was it amazing.

Speaker 1 I literally started singing along as I was watching the video, got goosebumps. It was like, man, that had to be fucking rocking.

Speaker 1 He's killing it on game. He makes shit fun, man.
It's so fucking cool watching it. No matter what he does, you're having fun.
Exactly.

Speaker 1 Before I get crushed by probably the most legendary kicker to play the game at this point, let's get a little bit of that.

Speaker 1 New news.

Speaker 1 New news. All righty.
Are you smarter than a celebrity premiere? That's right. Travis's brand new show, Are You Smarter Than a Celebrity, debuts today, October 16th, on Prime Video? Oh, shit.

Speaker 1 It's today? It's today. Fuck.
Well, tomorrow, but today. I'm terrified.
Terrified what people are going to say. It is, I had so much fucking fun doing are you, Are You Smarter?

Speaker 1 Yeah, you were telling me about this. There was a lot of good so much fun, man.
So, the thing I didn't, I thought, so the celebrities aren't the contestants, right?

Speaker 1 Uh, no, right, but they're not. Because it's here, the contestants on the show, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Nicole Beyer, Chad, uh, Ojo Cinco, yep, uh, Natasha Legiero, Legiero, thank you.

Speaker 1 Glad they're saying that Mickey Gladys,

Speaker 1 they're not the contestants, they're the ones that are assisting the contestants with the answers, right?

Speaker 1 Like, it's the old Are You Smarter than fifth grade where they're the ones who are Yeah, they're playing a lot of the content.

Speaker 1 And the contestants have to decide whether they're going with that answer, whether they're doing their own answer.

Speaker 1 There are a few twists to this game, and I do a great job of describing it in the episodes.

Speaker 1 So you just got to, yeah, you turn that thing on, you'll get caught up to all the rules and regulations that we got going on with the celebrities and how the celebrities can help you out.

Speaker 1 Amazon did actually send us a couple clips from the show. Oh, yeah.
There's one where you learn what a BBL is. Oh, yeah.
I don't know if I know what a BBL is. It's a Brazilian butt lift.
Oh.

Speaker 1 Okay. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So let's check out this clip. My man Fitzy.
If I lose my glutes, I'll just go get one of those. You know, you're playing for $100,000.

Speaker 1 If you win that money, what are you going to do with it?

Speaker 2 You really want to know, Kelsey?

Speaker 1 Of course I do.

Speaker 1 Who doesn't want to know? Hey.

Speaker 1 Hi. I'm going to go.
Oh, a BBL?

Speaker 1 Kelsey. Okay.

Speaker 1 Okay. I'm trying to drag a wagon.
Any of you guys are going to be able to do that?

Speaker 1 I didn't hear it say that one.

Speaker 1 Can you tell the audience what a BBL is? BBL. You know what a BBL is? A bigger butt.
Oh, a bigger butt. What's the L?

Speaker 1 What? It's a BBL.

Speaker 1 Oh, the BBL.

Speaker 1 I did not know that's what that was called.

Speaker 1 Well, she gets me. Yeah, there you go.
Yeah, there you go. The old Brazilian butt lift.
I know where to go if I lose my glutes. Coach Reed starts seeing these glutes getting a little saggy.

Speaker 1 I'll just go get a BBL and lift these things up. Dude, I ain't going.
All you got to do is do some RDLs. Just get a little bit of some squats in.

Speaker 1 Get them glutes. You see, all the girls are doing it on the Instagram.
She said, I'm trying to drag a wagon. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to lie. I'm not a fan of the BBLs.

Speaker 1 Not a fan of the BBLs.

Speaker 1 Listen, man. It looks okay.
It looks okay for like a couple of years, maybe.

Speaker 1 But then that thing just starts sagging. It looks like you got a diaper on the back side of you.
It's not a good look. It doesn't happen like that all the time.
Yes, it does, bro.

Speaker 1 I'm not a fan of the BBL. I'm not on the bank.
I'm trying to give everyone the benefit of the doubt. Just do some glute bridges.

Speaker 1 You can build the wagon naturally. You don't need the synthetics unless you got Kelsey jeans.
But then you got a big fucking like stiff ass back there. Yeah.
You got a big hard ass.

Speaker 1 But when you're not clinching it, it's still, it's still got some juice. I don't know.
I'm not a, yeah, I'm not a fan of them. Me neither.
It just doesn't have the right shape. It just looks bad.

Speaker 1 When your hamstrings don't match, when the hamstrings don't match your ass, it doesn't look good. I'm just being like, it's not a, you can't just add to the ass.

Speaker 1 And then you got hams got to go with big ass hammies.

Speaker 1 That ain't right. Small calves, small hamstring in a wagon.
We can't do this. You got bad circulation where all your fat deposits are just accumulating in your ass?

Speaker 1 This seems like this is an unhealthy thing. All right.
Well, there you go, kids. Outside of learning what a BBL was, it was a fun show.

Speaker 1 And I never, never in a million years thought I was ever going to ever be an actual host of a game show. I always thought it was going to be fun to like maybe go on one of the game shows.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And then somebody asked me, do you want to host it? I was like, I mean, I guess I used to like mimic all the game show hosts as a kid, like just fucking around.

Speaker 1 And I love, I love the game shows for sure. We used to watch the game show network all the time.
Family Feud, Steve Harvey. We used to have all that stuff.

Speaker 1 We were a game show network. I still do the game shows.
I still do the game shows. Well, then you might like this one, Jason.
I actually, I was asked how, how well my family would do on the show.

Speaker 1 And I was like, man, you know what? I think you and Big Ed would be pretty solid. Dad would be good.
Dad knows a lot of useless knowledge.

Speaker 1 He's spending a lot of time in front of the computer, not really going anywhere with them knees.

Speaker 1 He remembers stories very well. I'm not, I'll, I'll blank on it and I'll confuse it with something else in a heartbeat.

Speaker 1 If you let Big Ed be a celebrity and eat buffalo wings while he's playing, he might not miss a question. He might get every single one of them.

Speaker 1 If you give Ed's got to deal with him chewing Haynes white tea and sweating some box,

Speaker 1 you get some time. Yeah.
You get

Speaker 1 that.

Speaker 1 Slope? That's why, why equals MX plus B?

Speaker 1 Winston Churchill. That's Winston.

Speaker 1 He probably would have said that.

Speaker 1 Who knows? Well, it sounds like my Wednesdays are going to be very full. Yeah, play along.
Play along and let me know how good you do.

Speaker 1 What time does this premiere at?

Speaker 1 Have no idea what time. It streams, I'm pretty sure.

Speaker 1 Well, I know it streams, but usually there's like when it's a debut, it doesn't have a time or is it just a day it's just the day yeah all right so i can watch it immediately so it doesn't interfere with the grotesquerie at night there you go all right there you go if you're not just sick of fucking seeing me on the tv oh dude i can't wait please tell tell me how well you do because i was actually i was kind of like quizzing myself going through the questions in the back just making sure i would read them once just so that i because i'm a terrible reader so i would make sure i would get all the pronunciations done like corrected in the background background.

Speaker 1 But yeah, I would love to see how well you do. Should we do it? We'll just get, can we get the video from Prime? And then I'll just do it and answer them.
Boom, boom, see how it happens.

Speaker 1 Do it live. Yeah, or just tell me.

Speaker 1 I'll tell you. I'll tell you.
Nice. Yeah, so make sure you guys check that thing out on Amazon, I believe.
Yeah. Amazon Prime.

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Speaker 1 I don't think it did match the title. I mean, yeah, it did.
The pants really aren't a big part of the movie to me. What? The pants are like bringing them into a lot of their like.

Speaker 1 Well, we don't want to get too much of this review. We're going to save it.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 It definitely had something to do with the movie. It had nothing to do with it.
It tied all the girls together, Jason. Yeah, you're right.
They're in childhood and friendship their entire lives.

Speaker 1 It's not enough. We need pants.
We'll talk about it in the One Two Plus, though. It shouldn't even be.
It should be the, like, they weren't even, they acted like they were jeans.

Speaker 1 They couldn't have, like, the whole movie's premise is like these girls are amazed because it's the first pair of jeggings they tried on, and there's some spandex to them.

Speaker 1 You're giving it away, Jason. You're giving your review.
Sisterhood of the Traveling Jiggings.

Speaker 1 That's what it should have been called. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Out of the house. Moving on.

Speaker 1 We both got out of the house this past week, and we're going to talk about it. Out of the house is brought to you by the powerful backing of American Express.

Speaker 1 I tailgated at the link and then went up to East Rutherford, New Jersey, where I tailgated with Buffalo Bills and New Jersey Jets fans. New York Jets fans.

Speaker 1 Traff, you had a bye this week, and there's a small chance that we also saw you out of the house. Yeah, no, you saw me at the

Speaker 1 guards and gangsta game. Oh, we saw you before that, too.
As courtesy of this picture right here, we saw you going out to eat. It looked like maybe you guys are out in New York City.
You and Tay?

Speaker 1 That's what we do. We like to go out and eat, yes.
Yeah. I mean, who does it? Why wouldn't you? What in the world was the shirt, though? We got to show this.

Speaker 1 I have no idea. I think it's just art.
I think it's just people. And then there's a horse.

Speaker 1 I don't know. What's underneath that horse? I'm not sure.

Speaker 1 I didn't really look at this shirt like that when I got it. I just like the color and the patterns and stuff.
It looks like a hand.

Speaker 1 You can't really see a finger. I mean, it looks like a pointing finger like that.
It's kind of cropped funny, but that, I mean, on this picture, it kind of appears like it's a horse cock.

Speaker 1 That'd be crazy if I was wearing a horse cock. Wearing a horse cock shirt? That's crazy, yeah.
That's why

Speaker 1 you always got to really, you know,

Speaker 1 you got to make sure you know what you're wearing, kids, or you're just, everybody can just assume now.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 gosh. Well, we do know what you're wearing because British GQ did a whole breakdown on the shirt.
Oh, nice. Thanks, British GQ.

Speaker 1 In New York City, the American football player wore a navy bowling shirt with a camp collar design and a boxy fit, released as part of Jacquema's latest La Sassa, Sassa, La Casa line.

Speaker 1 It's a signature move from the French label,

Speaker 1 flowy, fun, and more vibrant Mersailles

Speaker 1 than minimalist Paris. It's a fancy way of saying it's a button-down with horses and people fucking on it.

Speaker 1 People fucking? I mean, that's what you got out of that? Look at these two people right here.

Speaker 1 You're ridiculous. That woman is riding that man.

Speaker 1 She's straddling next to each other. No, they're not.
No, no, no, not that one. The one right below it.
You can't even see that guy's legs. They're still sitting next to each other.
No, no, no.

Speaker 1 He's underneath. You're making it.
His legs are underneath. There's nothing saying that

Speaker 1 they're having sex. Well, what are her tits out for if they're not having sex, Travis? She could just be wearing a very tight shirt that shows her tits.
She's got a BBL on the back side of that.

Speaker 1 I mean, what's happening in this shirt? No, those hams are, those hamstrings are.

Speaker 1 The hamstrings match it. You're right.
You're right.

Speaker 1 You're ridiculous. The fact that that got you fired up is ridiculous.

Speaker 1 Absolutely ridiculous. Trav, we also saw you at the Guardians Yankees game.
While you were in New York, you also caught Guardians Yankees ALCS game. Yeah, game one, baby.
Playoff baseball.

Speaker 1 What is it about playoff baseball that's so electric?

Speaker 1 I think it's just the...

Speaker 1 the intensity. You know, you play all those, what is it, 182 games, you know, for these moments, and then every single pitch matters.
Every single pitch matters.

Speaker 1 A few got away from our first reliever there, unfortunately. And

Speaker 1 sure enough, we just weren't able to bounce back from the Yankees' power, man.

Speaker 1 I'll tell you what, man, when Stanton and Soto, when they get a hold of one, man, oh shit,

Speaker 1 that ball flies off the bat, man. It is impressive.
It is impressive shit. My guy Judge is

Speaker 1 right there on having a huge game. And I mean, the whole time, I'm just, I'm screaming.

Speaker 1 I'm in hostile territory because it's the Bronx bombers and I'm I'm at the Yankees Stadium in the playoffs and I'm over here cheering for the guards because I'm a Cleveland kid and I want to see Cleveland win a fucking World Series and

Speaker 1 it was mixed feelings because I was there trying to have some fun with Tay and everybody all our friends Eli and Chelsea came

Speaker 1 Lefko and Enum came oh nice we had an unbelievable crew

Speaker 1 with us and hanging with us and

Speaker 1 you know it was it was fun it was fun even though the guards couldn't couldn't pull it off,

Speaker 1 it was still an exciting, exciting game. And it was cool to see Yankees Stadium because I've always wanted to see that thing in person in a playoff game in a hostile environment.

Speaker 1 And it didn't disappoint, man. The Yankees,

Speaker 1 the fans, the players, everybody involved, man, it was awesome. There is something about playoff baseball that, and I love regular baseball.

Speaker 1 Anytime you go down in the ballpark, you're getting a hot dog and a beer. You're having some fun.
Oh, yeah. But playoff baseball, it's like almost the history of it.

Speaker 1 You just get swept up in like the moment. It's one of the most iconic.
I will say, I don't think it's as good as playoff hockey.

Speaker 1 I don't know that anything competes with playoff hockey now, but playoff baseball is pretty dang good.

Speaker 1 I feel like it does because

Speaker 1 you know the player's stories a little bit more.

Speaker 1 And not to say that hockey doesn't do a great job of that, but you just don't see hockey players wanting to put themselves out there for everybody to get to know them. It just is what it is.

Speaker 1 It's just not kind of the culture of the league, I don't think. Yeah, I think that's probably fair.
I think it's, yeah, I do think that that's part of the culture.

Speaker 1 Part of it's, you know, it's just not as popular of a sport as baseball. Yeah.
They're wearing, you know, the helmets and stuff, so you see them,

Speaker 1 but they got the open face mask, most of them. Yeah, I think you're right.
I think a lot of it does come down to the hockey culture. I just feel like I'm more invested in every single player.

Speaker 1 Like if the Yankees play the Dodgers, you know, a little New York versus the old Brooklyn Dodgers. You're right.

Speaker 1 It's a sport that's ruled by the

Speaker 1 star power. It's a star power-driven league.
You put a guy like Shohei Otani in New York. Dude.
And

Speaker 1 I want to see how he reacts to

Speaker 1 a hostile environment like that. I think that's exciting for me to see as a player.
So every single time I see him up at bat, I'm going to be glued into every single pitch.

Speaker 1 It's hard to find that in any other sport,

Speaker 1 let alone in the playoffs. I think it's also, we just grew up in the 90s with the Indians, and we just loved baseball so much because they were so good.

Speaker 1 How many World Series or playoff games did we go to? I know you went to the one World Series game. You did.
I only went to the

Speaker 1 All-Star. That's right.
I went to the All-Star. You went to the World Series.
I remember going to just taking the rapid downtown and going to games for like a $5, $10 ticket.

Speaker 1 Or if a friend had an extra ticket for me, we would all just jump on the rapid and go downtown. Yeah, mom and dad didn't have many tickets bought.
We usually were

Speaker 1 worker. We were were tag-alongs with somebody else.
Sailors had season tickets that they would split up with a couple other people. So every once in a while, I'd go with Brandon.

Speaker 1 We did go to the one playoff game together because mom always tells the story about how we fell asleep in like the fourth inning or something like that.

Speaker 1 We were like fast asleep because it was a late game. No way.
Do I got to text mom right now? No, I just, there's no way I ever have fell asleep at a, at a tribe game. Mom tells this story.

Speaker 1 I don't think we were kids. Maybe you were asleep.

Speaker 1 We were like very young. We were both asleep, I promise.
Maybe, maybe if we went to the game and I really didn't know what was going on, but every game that I went to, I was the biggest

Speaker 1 fiend for sports ever. If I ever went to a ball game or

Speaker 1 a basketball game or anything like that, I was so glued. Travis,

Speaker 1 nobody is attacking your fandom. You're crazy if you think that I was asleep during one of these games.
It doesn't matter how big of a fan you are when you're a child.

Speaker 1 Begged mom and dad to buy the $20 roster book so that I I could actually keep score of the game, which means I'm watching every single pitch. Nobody

Speaker 1 is at all

Speaker 1 saying that you weren't a big fan. I think she's just saying that you fell asleep.

Speaker 1 I was paying attention every single time. Mom will text me back, hopefully, if the hurricane didn't ruin her phone.
I think that you,

Speaker 1 the thing is, like my kids, Bluey is like crack to them.

Speaker 1 They won't be glued to Bluey, but they're still children. And eventually that brain's going to shut it down, and they're just going to fall asleep.
I don't know what to tell you.

Speaker 1 I never fell asleep at a game.

Speaker 1 I'll text Ed, too. Dad was there.
But yeah,

Speaker 1 shout out to my guys that I actually know on the Yanks. Rizzo, Big Judge.

Speaker 1 If I'm missing somebody, I'm an idiot. But those guys are Hall of Fame, just people, man.

Speaker 1 They're some of my favorite guys to be around when I do get a chance to hang out with them.

Speaker 1 Saw some Saturday Night Live two years ago, I believe, with them. And it's just cool

Speaker 1 seeing them chase it, chase the ring, even though I want my guards to find a way to get him, man.

Speaker 1 Come on, baby. Come on, baby.
This is a tough place to play, though, brother. I text Dad.
Did Travis and I ever fall asleep at an Indians game? He said, no, I did.

Speaker 1 I mean, Dad, yeah, he's like us. That's where we get our sleeping from.
He could fall asleep at a fucking rock concert. It does not matter.
We had some Cleveland sports that we were getting into.

Speaker 1 You went to the guards game, and I saw a Browns game at the link. It was tailgating.
How about it? Who knew Jason tailgating? It was the second weekend in a row.

Speaker 1 You got to do some tailgating out there in Philly.

Speaker 1 Well, tailgating in general. I guess Philly is the first time in like two weeks.
You actually hit two different tailgates. Let's start with the Eagles game first.

Speaker 1 How was your second time tailgating at the link? Was it

Speaker 1 a little bit more genuine this time, knowing you didn't have all the...

Speaker 1 I guess you still had cameras following you.

Speaker 1 There were cameras following. Yeah, the first one was more like a pre-planned deal.
This one was kind of like just show up and like try and experience it, but it turned into chaos. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It was a blast, man. It was the Carmichael Jersey home, baby.
Yeah, baby. Shout out to Harold.
Are you a jersey guy now? I am. Especially the throwbacks.
Dude, I got my guy.

Speaker 1 We're going to talk about the Bills Jets game in a second. I got a great jersey from that one, but it was awesome rocking Harold Carmichael.
Dude, Harold used to be the director of player development.

Speaker 1 That was his role at at the Eagles when I first got here. So, I got to spend a lot of time with him.

Speaker 1 He was instrumental in helping a lot of young players and the rookies out, getting acclimated, new people to the city.

Speaker 1 Just an awesome personality. So, it was really cool to wear his jersey.
And it was awesome to go to Tailgate. I mean, listen, got to hold up a baby.
You see this picture right here? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, you know,

Speaker 1 no way that's actually the words.

Speaker 1 That's not it.

Speaker 1 I think those are the words. I also witnessed somebody get engaged in front of me.
That was not planned, at least on my behalf. That came out of nowhere.
Oh, shit, Brian Dawkins got married?

Speaker 1 Brian Dawkins proposed to this one lovely lady.

Speaker 1 Were there any Philadelphia delicacies that you got into, like uh alligator yeah alligator was not on the menu this week but uh there were cheesesteaks uh everybody's got sausage one of the guys had this jerk chicken set up on this charcoal uh like tailgate it was probably a grill specifically for tailgate i had never seen it though it was dope just sitting on the ground let me tell you these chicken thighs

Speaker 1 pretty damn good

Speaker 1 I had my first time.

Speaker 1 I had jerk beef. Jerk beef? I've never heard of jerk beef.
Who's doing jerk beef?

Speaker 1 Never never mind i don't even know if it was that it was a jerk pasta it was a jerk pasta with beef in it i mean you can do jerk anything probably it's just the jerk seasoning yeah i've just never had i've only ever had jerk chicken maybe pork and lastly there was an insane video going around of you chugging a beer yeah the focus wasn't as much on you as it was on the cameraman next to you and this is why you shouldn't go on top of trailers kids i will say this woman was up there already and uh she offered to go up there again.

Speaker 1 I was like, Yeah, I'm not going to turn down the opportunity to go up on a trailer. I've never been on top of a trailer.
Almost felt like, you know what reminded me of? I felt like I was in tremors.

Speaker 1 I felt like I was like one of the guys in tremors up on the bus. You remember that scene?

Speaker 1 The worm things that would tunnel. They would go through the desert.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And they would get up on top of vehicles and stuff so they weren't touching the ground and then would start popping the tires. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I don't know. I got an insane flashback the moment I got up there.
My guy,

Speaker 1 I don't know how how he got up there. This ladder was like, I was nervous going up myself, like very old, like did not look like it was adhered very well.

Speaker 1 And somehow this guy climbed up there with the camera. I mean, it was impressive that he's up there to begin with.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Didn't know there was a skylight there, stepped, broke right through the window in the roof.

Speaker 1 Luckily, he's good. He's okay.
Camera fell down. I thought it was done.
Dunzo. Done.
Dunzo. He ran down there fast, picked picked it up, started recording.
Worked perfectly fine. I don't know how.

Speaker 1 What? That's how durable those things are? I don't think that they're supposed to... They are, but somehow that thing must have felled just right.
It was insane.

Speaker 1 That's like a 10, 12-foot drop right there. Yeah, that's like a $200,000 piece of equipment right there, that camera.
I would assume. That thing is expensive.
Were you like shooting the doc?

Speaker 1 Was that your camera? Was that your guy? They're helping with another thing we're doing with ESPN.

Speaker 1 That I think we're waiting to kind of unleash that. Nice.
They were there shooting with that. They're really with NFL Films is who they're with.
But they camera dropped.

Speaker 1 Kind of, I thought it was gone for sure.

Speaker 1 Luckily, I knew he was all right with the way he got up. And then

Speaker 1 he just kept up and kept recording. He's a trooper.

Speaker 1 This is why you chug, people. Good things happen when you chug.
You get good content. Well, now I'm two for two now at Eagles Tailgates.
My man Dunfee almost tore his ACL the last time.

Speaker 1 Dunfee did, yeah. And luckily, he's okay.
Well, doesn't need surgery. And now this, I might, I mean, I don't know.
Maybe I'm cursed.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I hope not. If you see Jason chugging, don't move.
Yeah, so this was awesome. It was a fun time, fun event being out there with the Eagles fans.
A little weird seeing Browns fans.

Speaker 1 And I was ribbing them, but obviously being from Cleveland, I still love the Browns. In particular, there's this one tent.
Dudes were awesome. They're from St.
Ignatius. Really happy to be there.

Speaker 1 So it was cool seeing some Brownies in attendance. So, fellow Believelanders.
This is a big game. It was a big game.
Week six, it's not divisional, but both of the teams needed to win bad.

Speaker 1 Like, Cleveland is in a bad spot right now. And, I mean, honestly, if we're being real honest, they're a bad football team.

Speaker 1 I mean, it was, I came away watching that game thinking Cleveland's worse than anything else. Like, that offense just cannot get it figured out right now.

Speaker 1 I think it was a rough go-around for both teams because we heard some Sirianni chance, but we'll get to that later. Let's talk a little bit of Monday night football countdown.

Speaker 1 A little Monday night countdown with ESPN. Send you to the Bills Jets game in the Meadowlands, and you were reunited with your people, Bills Mafia.

Speaker 1 Dude, you started, yeah, you started things off by once again drinking out of a bowling ball, got that one back in you. You like that one so much.

Speaker 1 Except this time, we actually know what was in it. Yeah, it was Gatorade.
If Pinto Round offers me a shot out of a bowling ball, I'm not going to turn down Pinto Round. I'm not doing it.

Speaker 1 Why blue Gatorade? Because I'm not supposed to drink when I'm on Monday night Night Countdown. It's one of the caveats of working for ESPN.

Speaker 1 They don't like you to be seen drinking alcohol or even drinking alcohol before they put you on live television. That's fair.
Unless you're Pat McAfee, then you get away with whatever you want.

Speaker 1 When you're the greatest, you get different. Yeah, you get treated differently.
It is what it is. Well, yeah, Pat's a man.
So what I'm wearing right there is a hat from the Water Buffalo Club, 716,

Speaker 1 and they have a grand poo bah. What the

Speaker 1 grand poo bah? And that's what the Fred Flintstone outfit is. And they anointed me that which is basically i'm king of the tailgate for the day i'm king of bills mafia

Speaker 1 which nice felt a little weird getting while i wore this jersey in honor of a legendary defensive lineman who recently unfortunately passed away this week abdul salam that's right the last member of the new york stack exchange not in the ring of honor for the new york jets but known as the soldier of peace but yeah we were we were having a lot lot of fun out there in the tailgate.

Speaker 1 Bills mafia, it doesn't matter where they're at. They're having fun.
Fellow Midwesterners, obviously, there's a kinship. Buffalo's Midwesterners.
Anybody that,

Speaker 1 well,

Speaker 1 I consider anybody that is residing.

Speaker 1 There's no way. You're right.
If you're on the lake,

Speaker 1 all those cities, just good people. They think the same.
They all just want to have fun. And it's a great time being out there with the Buffalo Bills Mafia.
The Jets fans are awesome, too.

Speaker 1 Jets fans were fun when I watched you last year playing the Jets. The Bills mafia is more of a production.
Like, they have a lot more going on.

Speaker 1 There's like people that travel, and obviously, there's a way game for them. So, those fans have

Speaker 1 their rituals that they're going to with everything. Yeah.
Whereas, like, the Jets fans was like, oh, yeah, I used to be a firefighter. Now, I'd just go tailgate to the games.

Speaker 1 Like, it was, you know, a lot of that, which I kind of appreciated too. For sure.
Hard hat. Dude, this is one of the baddest hats.
Like, I got to say. Dude, this is pretty cool.

Speaker 1 You're getting

Speaker 1 using it to get knickknacks. Yeah.
This is awesome.

Speaker 1 Man, hook me up.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 you're going to be a hoarder before you know it. People are going to be giving you everything.
That's good shit right there.

Speaker 1 And then you had a wardrobe change after you went tailgating, though, Jason.

Speaker 1 You actually put on a fucking suit. Suit.

Speaker 1 How about it? I think the suit's nice. I think that's one.
There's a reason why people have worn suits for a long time. So getting up there with a tie.

Speaker 1 This one obviously fit color scheme-wise with the game my man ryan clark was in the jets suit colors this one i had this color already in my uh closet electric blue and i'm like man i don't know when i'm ever going to wear this like very blue blue like i don't know when that's going to happen i was like you know what i think this might be the perfect week dude you definitely new york jets i could see i could see you playing for the bills i would have fit in really well yeah i mean ryan fits anybody with a beard is going to fit in well with the beard with the bills right yeah man you fucking snapping it to Josh Allen would have been fucking dangerous.

Speaker 1 God damn it. Snapping it to Ryan Fitzpatrick.
Ooh, Fitzmagic? All right, Bills. Bills is a town that appreciates their offensive line, too.
Much like Cleveland, much like

Speaker 1 Philadelphia, the Bills. My man Eric Wood, he's been up there.
He's like calls the games for Bill's radio and stuff like that still. He would, yeah.

Speaker 1 It's a town that definitely appreciates the big guys up front. So it's an offensive line haven town.
I get it. Well, where'd you get this

Speaker 1 Buffalo wing necklace?

Speaker 1 So Teresa was the one giving out the Grand Puba attire. And there was another woman, I don't remember her name, but she had the

Speaker 1 Buffalo wing necklace for me, which is my kind of jewelry.

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Speaker 1 Let's move on to some football. Yeah, I had a buy this week, so we have no updates for you for Chiefs football.
The Eagles did, though, play, and it was a win. The Eagles got a dub.

Speaker 1 Eagles 20, Browns, 16, like we were talking about earlier. Jason was out there tailgating before the game.

Speaker 1 Initial thoughts, though, on the actual game. Obviously always good when you win.
Some good takeaways from the game. Defense played a lot better.
No turnovers for the offense in general.

Speaker 1 Still, though, I came away from the game again. We kind of mentioned this earlier, thinking more about, you know, Cleveland probably

Speaker 1 is a struggling team right now than I did thinking that the Eagles really controlled the game. So I don't think it was like an impressive performance by either team.

Speaker 1 But that being said, wins a win, baby. I'm taking that all day.
All day, every day. They improved in some areas that they've been struggling.
Defense played so much better. And I think offensively,

Speaker 1 it was sporadic. It felt a little bit disconnected, but at times

Speaker 1 good. And then obviously, whenever you got A.J.
Brown back and healthy, it's not a bad thing. Don't forget Skinny Batman.
You had both AJ and Skinny Batman.

Speaker 1 Smitty back in the offense, but you guys still haven't scored in the first quarter yet through five games. Zero points in the first quarter of every single game they played so far.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think they were driving towards the end of that first quarter, so it almost happened. But I think,

Speaker 1 yeah, it hasn't been a good start to games. And as you know, a lot of starts to games come down to like what you have planned coming in and what you think you're going to see.
And I think the Eagles,

Speaker 1 I don't want to speak for this this year because I don't know as much whether that's happening this year.

Speaker 1 But Jalen has always been a guy that's been schemed differently because he's a different quarterback, right?

Speaker 1 We tend to run different plays and different offensive structures than a lot of other teams do. So I don't know if it's like they're not getting quite what they expect.

Speaker 1 I think some of it's just bad execution. Like I've definitely seen drops and slow starts from the players.
So I think a lot of it is just accountability on both sides, right?

Speaker 1 Players have to be accountable to getting off to a faster start and being locked in to start the game.

Speaker 1 And then I think also offensively, you know, getting to stuff that you feel like is maybe more of your bread and butter. Does that make sense?

Speaker 1 Like sometimes I think the early plays end up being game plan specific plays. Maybe start with

Speaker 1 plays that are more just generic part of your offense. Maybe.
I don't know. I'm kind of grasping the straws.

Speaker 1 It feels like the Eagles are starting to get a little frustrated with it, at least the Eagles players. Lane Johnson hit us with the all-time quote: We're a constipated offense.

Speaker 1 That's what it bleeping feels like. Yeah, it's accurate.
A constipated offense. I mean, that shit's in there, man.
Yeah, it's got to get it out. Shit's in there.
Just got to get that shit out.

Speaker 1 Get that X-Lax going. Yeah, you already know.
I think it's a great definition. And, And, you know,

Speaker 1 go figure Lane just can pull that out of his ass. The constipated offense is a great line.

Speaker 1 And that's what it, it's exactly what it feels like. It just feels kind of disconnected, out of rhythm.
Feels like it's like they have the players.

Speaker 1 They make spot plays here and there, but it doesn't feel like that full onslaught of plays that go off one another that you're typically seeing.

Speaker 1 It's more like guys making plays, like AJ going up there and catching a 50-50 ball, which I don't know if there are any 50-50 balls with AJ Brown.

Speaker 1 Obviously, the run game struggled a little bit, which, you know, Cleveland's got some horses up front. They got good players.

Speaker 1 So shout out to them for showing up and my man Jim Schwartz for dialing up a game plan. They had some plays that were there.
They did. They just watching it back, they had some counters.

Speaker 1 They had some things drawn up where it's like, man, if that just happens, that thing's creased.

Speaker 1 There was an early run where like Saquon runs into Landon Dickerson and like Landon Dickerson makes the tackle, right? And it's like he's on the single safety. Like that's that's at least a 10-yarder.

Speaker 1 You know, he breaks one tackle, explosive run. Who knows how big it is? Yeah.
You know, there's plays to be had. Some of it comes down to executing.

Speaker 1 Some of it just feels like I think that they're trying to figure things out right now because they've struggled a little bit in recent weeks, especially missing AJ and Devontae that I think will continue to get better.

Speaker 1 Obviously, having those guys out there this week helped. Another week of

Speaker 1 figuring themselves out.

Speaker 1 Hopefully this offense keeps going, starts to find some rhythm and is a little bit less constipated. Yeah, more explosive.
Well, AJ Brown finished with six receptions for 116 yards and a touchdown.

Speaker 1 Jalen connected with AJ for the first TD of the game, a 22-yarder.

Speaker 1 He also caught an electric game ceiling reception, a 40-yard pass with two minutes left to play. It sounds like Cleveland might have gone cover zero, and they just said, fuck it, we're putting it up.

Speaker 1 What do you think of this play call here late in the game? And also, did Wyatt notice his pink shoes are back?

Speaker 1 I was not watching with Wyatt, but she probably did. It was not cover zero.
It was just straight up cover one with the safeties up and or man hole hole is what we call it. Double hole.
Double hole.

Speaker 1 Kind of picking crossers and just making the quarterback throw over top, which he did. He did beautifully.
Great pitch and catch

Speaker 1 by guys, two guys that know how to do it the best in the league. Listen, it's A.J.
Brown. He's going to come down with these catches like nine times out of ten.
He's a beast. He's a swole Batman.

Speaker 1 I do think back to the slow starts and maybe game plan specific plays. It felt like a good way to buck that sometimes is utilizing tempo.

Speaker 1 And I think that they do it sometimes, but it feels like Jalen, when they go into these two-minute situations, he goes more into like automatic mode.

Speaker 1 I wouldn't be opposed to them maybe mixing some tempo early in the game, like here and there, to spark some momentum. And I think that it's worked in the past with him in particular.

Speaker 1 And I think as an offense, I always liked

Speaker 1 when you're going tempo, you have to call more generic stuff that goes off of one another. It's like, hey, we know we like this versus this.
We know we like this versus this.

Speaker 1 And it kind of, you know, because of the tempo nature of it, you can't do all these crazy things. Now, I like that Kellens brought more motions and more interesting things.
We still need to do that.

Speaker 1 But maybe sometimes early on, just to like get into rhythm, sometimes utilizing that helps. So maybe they do that.
I don't know. Yeah.
It's probably that the coaches coach, though.

Speaker 1 Yeah, coaches know best, and they'll keep figuring it out. Sirianni knows what he's doing over there.
Devontae Smith also had a big day, finished with three catches for 64 yards.

Speaker 1 It's good to see that dynamic duo in the wide receiver group over there starting to get back on track. But Nick Siriani, the big things coming out of this game that we got to talk about.

Speaker 1 Sirianni appears to be chirping back at the Eagles.

Speaker 1 And I'm not sure if he was necessarily chirping back or if, you know, like it was a confrontation or if he was just, you know, trying to get fired up with them.

Speaker 1 We don't know what was actually said.

Speaker 1 at least i don't think so uh the fans who nick siriani was yelling at after the eagles win posted his side of the story uh context on reddit nice he's a reddit guy

Speaker 1 i began to yell in quotes uh

Speaker 1 if your star running back gets you five yards on the on first down you give it to him again run

Speaker 1 run the ball run the ball and i had some more to say but you get the point yeah it sounds like the eagles fans coaching and the uh and that's what they do.

Speaker 1 They let the coach know what they think they should do. I mean, it's

Speaker 1 fans. The Nick Siriani run the ball stuff.
You know, Nick turned around. Obviously, everybody saw this, gestured for him to calm down and said something to the effect, we will, don't worry, I'm on it.

Speaker 1 Or actually, they didn't see that. So Nick turned around beforehand, gestured to him to calm down, said something to the effect that we will, don't worry about it.

Speaker 1 Fast forward to the end of the game, came over to us and said, hey, I told you we'd run it. I told you.
Admittedly, paraphrasing, I had indulged quite a bit. The point is,

Speaker 1 it was not unwarranted, nor did I see it as aggressive. I don't know.
There's no way for us to verify if this fan

Speaker 1 was indeed the fan that Nick was yelling at. This is a Reddit post, which is far from a verified source,

Speaker 1 but it is intriguing because I think that would lead you to believe that this may be not be as big of a deal as everybody's saying it is. And it probably isn't, regardless.

Speaker 1 I think Nick and his presser announced: you know, we thrive off of the crowd, They cheer for us. And the team had been trying to get him back to being the emotional leader that he is.

Speaker 1 And obviously, he commented on Monday, you know, I was trying to bring the energy, enthusiasm, all that. I'm sorry, disappointed in the way I directed it at the end of the game.

Speaker 1 My energy should be all in on coaching, motivating, celebrating our guys. So he knows

Speaker 1 that,

Speaker 1 listen, it's a lose-lose operation when you start going back and forth with fans. It's tough.
It's never going to be seen right.

Speaker 1 It only empowers people to talk more trash because they know they're getting to you. And we talked about this with Joey Bosa.
Joey Bosa's at the link. Fish on.
Fish on. We got him.

Speaker 1 Like, you can't do it. It's just not going to help.
But, and people, I've seen this because I said this on Monday night. Like, people are like, oh, you're defending Nick.
I'm not defending him.

Speaker 1 I think this is, he shouldn't be doing this. Like, I don't think that that's right.
But at the same time, I will defend him. And like, he needs to be emotional.
He needs to be passionate.

Speaker 1 That's when he is a better coach. And he knows that.
And the team knows that. And I think that directing it in the right way is what we want to see.

Speaker 1 And I think that for the majority of the game, that's what you saw. You saw Nick fired up.
The team needed that. They needed to win this game.
He knows what's on the line.

Speaker 1 And it's getting the sense of urgency is high right now in Philadelphia. So, yeah, not good to be directing it in this way.

Speaker 1 Nick knows that. That's clear.
Hopefully, he can continue to bring the passion and the energy in more productive ways that won't have a bunch of people on TV shouting about stuff. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That'd be great. Well, I feel like you just gave us your final thoughts.
Yeah, that's about it. You know, I think that it was still an underperformance by the Eagles.
They still got a lot to work on.

Speaker 1 But the good thing is week four.

Speaker 1 Sorry. Good thing is week six.
Is that right? Week seven. Week seven, game six.
Week seven. God damn, this thing is flying by.
Yeah, it is. Wow.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and the Eagles are going to take the subway over to New York or New Jersey, I should say. We got got the Giants this week.
Giants haven't been looking that bad. Yeah, Saquon

Speaker 1 turned to the Meadowlands, baby. Haven't been looking great on offense, but their defense is looking dang good.

Speaker 1 So it'll be a fun game. We did have one voice of reason, maybe an unlikely voice of reason from our guy, Dumphy.

Speaker 1 Eagles are literally a wide open, two-yard Saquon Barkley catch away from being 4-1 while missing A.J. Brown for three weeks.
And the lone loss being when A.J.

Speaker 1 Brown, Smitty, and Lane Johnson were all out.

Speaker 1 That's a reasonable take, Dumphy. God damn, Dumf.
That's a good fucking take. Level-headed, Philly fanatic tattoo around your belly button take right there.

Speaker 1 You don't always get that out of those kind of Philly fans.

Speaker 1 Those diehards sometimes. Those diehards sometimes just pour it on them.
All right. Week six recap.
Not the best week for football. Last week, great week for football.

Speaker 1 I saw the offenses reinvigorate around the league. This week,

Speaker 1 got back to a little bit of sloppiness.

Speaker 1 The big news break that we have following the week is Devontae Adams is now a Jet. Jets coming off of their lost Monday night football to the Bills.
Short-lived amount of agony.

Speaker 1 Jets Jake, I mean, jumping for joy.

Speaker 1 This should expand the offense. Obviously, Garrett Wilson, Lazar,

Speaker 1 it's going to add another dynamic.

Speaker 1 Anytime any offense or anytime any Hall of Fame quarterback gets this kind of receiver or gets his like legendary receiver that he has been always on the same page with, gets him back.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, this offense is going to be a lot better. And it just is what it is.
Yeah, absolutely. The offense looked reinvigorated too with Todd Downing calling plays yesterday.

Speaker 1 It just felt like it was

Speaker 1 the ball, man. They were moving the ball, man.
They were handing it off. Back to the fan that Nick got into it.
Run the ball, coach. Run the ball.

Speaker 1 That's a good point. Other news, Cowboys' home losing streak.
Now at three.

Speaker 1 They've lost three in a row. They didn't lose a single regular season home game last year, I don't think.
That's crazy. They've lost three this season after the game.

Speaker 1 It wasn't just a loss this week either, man. It was

Speaker 1 ugly. On Jerry Jones' birthday, happy birthday, Jerry.
Almost got a 50 burger from the Detroit Lions. Man, they were, they were,

Speaker 1 they were fucking around. I'm not going to lie.
They were throwing hook and laterals to offensive linemen.

Speaker 1 They were throwing offensive linemen outside the numbers, like they were doing running Receiver screen? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Dan Skipper, eligible. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It was interesting, but I don't think anybody can really point a finger on what exactly is wrong with the Cowboys. It just doesn't look like they're playing very well together.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 They've struggled to stop the run all year round. And I just think the games that the defense has really struggled has been like the Ravens, Detroit, Shocker, both of those teams really good.

Speaker 1 Run the fuck out of the ball, yeah. Coming downhill, right at you.

Speaker 1 they've gotten it felt like they were getting better and you know detroit is just so good at it and they've been asserting their will all season long and then jared goff hits it behind you i mean it's it's ben johnson the guys that they have in detroit it's an impressive impressive unit on their offensive uh side of the ball and defensive but obviously we saw aiden hutchinson go down with a very graphic injury almost like an mma style hopefully he's all right he'll get back great eventually when he gets healthy

Speaker 1 that shit sucks man That sucks for the game of football, man. And obviously, it sucks for him and his family, man.
Nobody likes to see an injury, let alone one like that. And hopefully

Speaker 1 he gets right back to full strength as fast as possible, knowing how amazing of a player he is. But shout out to the Hutchinson fan, man.
Hopefully Dallas can get back to full strength.

Speaker 1 Michael Parsons, they need some of their guys back. It'll be interesting to see how the NFC shakes out.

Speaker 1 Washington's been doing a hell of a job. I know they lost this week to the,

Speaker 1 I mean, the monster that's over there in Baltimore.

Speaker 1 But, you know, they've been trending good. It's wide open right now in the NFCs.
Other results from across the league.

Speaker 1 Texans, 41. Patriots, 21.
Texans come out on top. Texans started.
They kind of been winning games.

Speaker 1 It honestly reminds me a little bit of you guys where they just find a way to get it done at the end of games, with C.J. Stroud and company.
Yeah, especially with Drake May getting his debut.

Speaker 1 Patriots, man, putting up 21 points. Not a bad day for a debut.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Packers, Cardinals, Packers run away with that one the the the most interesting game to me though was that ravens commanders game i really wanted to see how the young guy handled the pressure of uh of going up against a ravens defense because they they fly around they're smart they're well coached they just uh they always have a knack for for getting around the football and um they made they didn't make it easy on the young guy man Well, he played all right.

Speaker 1 I thought actually Jaden played well. The thing that they really struggled, they've been great at running the ball all season long.

Speaker 1 The Ravens took that away and it made it like, hey, you're going to have to beat us. And he still played well.
He had him and Terry McLaurin. They're building a hell of a connection.

Speaker 1 McLaurin had a couple catches where I'm like, how

Speaker 1 did this dude just catch this ball? It was

Speaker 1 unbelievable. It's like he pulls out one of those every fucking game now.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 the Bucs put up a 50 burger on the Saints, man. Yes, they did.
Bucks offense, man. That's another one.
When they're running the fucking football,

Speaker 1 good luck.

Speaker 1 It is going to make Baker's day so much easier if he can just get some good play action and really get everybody to declare what they're doing here and get our guy Mike Evans in a fucking one-on-one situation.

Speaker 1 I mean, that's.

Speaker 1 Dude, you go look at their offense quietly. I mean, besides maybe the Denver game, I think, quietly, their offense has been killing people.
Explosive, yeah. Yeah, they are making plays.

Speaker 1 They are looking real good. It was a weird game, too.
They jumped out to like a three-score lead almost. Then the Saints came back and took the lead.

Speaker 1 And then all of a sudden, it was like a runaway show for the Bucs. Very weird.
Yeah. Well, Steelers 32, Raiders 13, and the Steelers said, no, that's not good enough, Justin Fields.

Speaker 1 We're going to go ahead and go with Russell Wilson. I don't understand.

Speaker 1 I thought the Steelers were playing pretty good with Justin Fields, but I guess they got something else hidden in their back pocket thinking that Russell's going to give them more offense.

Speaker 1 They got it done versus the Raiders. That's all that matters, right? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. They're winning football games.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 any other more interesting games, I guess.

Speaker 1 Bears over Jacksonville and London. Caleb Williams, second consecutive week, where you can see the young fellas starting to build some chemistry.
He's looking better.

Speaker 1 Joe Flacco wins another one for the Colts. 49ers getting back to

Speaker 1 maybe a little bit of what they have been. Seahawks have struggled a little bit ever since the Lions game.

Speaker 1 They're another one dealing with some injuries. Yeah, the Lions play so physical.
There's some crazy stat. I don't know what it is off the top of my head of like teams after they play the Lions

Speaker 1 that they're like

Speaker 1 win percentages way down

Speaker 1 because of how physical that game is. Fucking biting kneecaps, man.

Speaker 1 Fighting Dan Campbell's.

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Speaker 1 13M. Now that the NHL season has started, which hockey players, past or present, do you think could play in the NFL and at what position? Eric Lindross could play in the NFL.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's pretty confident about that one.

Speaker 1 You think he's a tight end? Dude, so he came to the golf outing we had for Beat Philly this year.

Speaker 1 I remember you telling me he's massive, man. Massive, dude, yeah.
Like, he could have put on weight easily and played O-line. He definitely could have played tight end.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm thinking he was a tight end. I think that that's probably the most accurate.
For what his stature was during the year. He's number 88.
Come on. He's a tight end.
There we go.

Speaker 1 Little Dallas Goddard. Okay,

Speaker 1 88. Who else? A freaking Yager with this freaking mullet would have been awesome to watch out there on a football field.
That would have been awesome to see.

Speaker 1 I don't know what position he's playing, but I'm with you.

Speaker 1 You think Claude Geru could have found his way as a wide receiver or something?

Speaker 1 I don't know. Maybe.
I mean, he's feisty. I told you.

Speaker 1 Maybe DB?

Speaker 1 He used to come in and ask to arm wrestle. I don't know.

Speaker 1 DB's tough. Maybe safety.
Maybe safety. He used to come in and ask to arm wrestle anybody.
He's just one of them type of guys. So mentality-wise, yes.
Mentality-wise, absolutely.

Speaker 1 Could play in the NFL. Physically,

Speaker 1 going to have to see that.

Speaker 1 What about some of the bruisers from the league? What's his name playing for the fucking Leaves?

Speaker 1 Who did he play for last year?

Speaker 1 I always think of Zidane Ocharo. Ocharo, the 6-11 defender from Boston.
He could play DN.

Speaker 1 I mean, what position would he play? I think he'd be a DN. Got the reach.
He's got some wiggle to him. He can put some weight on, play some offensive tackle.
There you go. That's what a defenseman.

Speaker 1 Just keep the guy in front of you. He's got that skill.
You think a guy like McDavid, who's the fastest thing on fucking ice, can

Speaker 1 play receiver or running back? He kind of weaves like a running back when he's on the ice. He does.
He's got the elusiveness, but it's got the vision for running back. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's just hard to gauge because skating is so. I've seen guys that skate incredibly well, and then you see them run on a field, and it's just not the same.

Speaker 1 Not that they're unathletic, but it's like it's a different, it's an entirely different muscle group that you're activating ice skating than you are when you're actually running.

Speaker 1 But the elusiveness is there, the quickness is, the twitch is there, maybe past or present. Is Wayne Gresky finding his way on the NFL football field? I don't think so.
As much as I'll young people.

Speaker 1 I think Wayne's in there.

Speaker 1 I mean, he's in the, you know, we talked about this later with Pat. Greatness is greatness.
So probably would figure it out.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 he never struck me as like having speed or like. Have you ever seen him race?

Speaker 1 Have you seen this? They did like crossover, like

Speaker 1 who, what was it? It was him and like three other professional athletes. I think

Speaker 1 you're right. And they did a hundred-meter dash and he

Speaker 1 smoked everybody. He smoked some.
You're right. He was rolling.

Speaker 1 He was rolling. There we go.
There we go, interim Brandon. Who is it?

Speaker 1 Who else is up there?

Speaker 1 I forget. I don't, you know.
It has it at the top. Sugar Ray Leonard.
Sugar Ray was one of them. Yep.

Speaker 1 Oh, Pele.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I'm not as impressed with Bjorn Borg losing, but beating Pele.

Speaker 1 That's something. Dude, he's not just beating them.
He's crushing them. He's fucking rolling on them.

Speaker 1 You know what he was a two-sport athlete? I'm pretty sure he's drafted by the Expos. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You know what? I'm going to say he could have done it. Dude, I'm right there.

Speaker 1 I mean, the form is not great. Let's be honest.
He runs like fucking...

Speaker 1 Does that sugar ray switching lanes? Sugar Ray just switch lanes?

Speaker 1 He's like trying to catch some wind? He's trying to drift on wind.

Speaker 1 He's trying to get some drift action.

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Speaker 1 All right, now it's time to bring on our guest. Jason, you want to do the honors? From Plum, Pennsylvania.

Speaker 1 He was a national putt, pass, and kick champion. By the time he was a sophomore in high school, the seventh-round pick out of West Virginia, first team all-pro, first team Pro Bowler.

Speaker 1 He made the PFWA all-rookie team and was first team All-American. He's a first-team Yenser all the way.

Speaker 1 You've seen him on college games, WrestleMania, and of course, the host of the Pat McAbee Show, Mr. Pat McAbee.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, brother. Man, you got me jacked up.
What an honor it is to be here. Thank you for all those kind things and for doing your research.

Speaker 1 I've lived an absurd life, and obviously this conversation is a piece of that. You two are running the world right now.

Speaker 1 So, for letting me be a part of New Heights, which I've told you, I've been a massive fan of for since the beginning of New Heights. This is an honor, a dream.

Speaker 1 Thank you for the intro, and thank you for the time. Although, Jason, you've been saying some terrible stuff about, you know, like position groups.
We're joking here. We're joking here.

Speaker 1 We're joking here. You know, we're just having fun.
It's a podcast.

Speaker 1 Shy away.

Speaker 1 Shy away now, Jason.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you know, the stats people. You came out.

Speaker 1 I mean, I was joking. We're just having fun here.
We're having fun here.

Speaker 1 The kickers, you had a well-thought-out take. You said, for years, I've been thinking about it.

Speaker 1 That's what you said.

Speaker 1 For years, I've been thinking about it. We've been talking about this.

Speaker 1 You've been laying at night thinking, like, I need to get this into the show somehow. How do I work this in? Hey, listen,

Speaker 1 you're the greatest of all time, the greatest center of all time, one of the toughest humans to ever play football. And obviously, your resume is what it is on the football field.

Speaker 1 So you're allowed to say whatever the hell you want. Travis, if you want to hop into that whole train, you can as well.

Speaker 1 It's the people that have never played football that decide to dunk on like kickers and punters and stuff like that. I'm like, you need to relax.
This is why you did the college game day.

Speaker 1 You're starting to bring the fans out of here for talking shit. That's right.
Jason, do you think you can fucking kick a field goal? Bingo. You know what? I don't know if my hips got me in it.

Speaker 1 We might have to find this out. Get your Tim's, okay? Get your untied Tims.
Get your Tims. Yeah, the old boot style, just straight on.

Speaker 1 Oh, get your Tims.

Speaker 1 Who is the square toe? Who's that Lou Groza? You used to do square toe from the Brownies. Is that

Speaker 1 what's the garbage picking, field goal kicking?

Speaker 1 You remember that? Jody.

Speaker 1 Oh my gosh. Yes, absolutely.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that could be the case. But my problem, my issue is whenever people have never played football before bury kickers and punters and act like it's an easy thing.
It is not an easy thing.

Speaker 1 Like, if you get out there and you play catch, you could probably play catch a little bit. You know, you probably could.

Speaker 1 If you want to get out there and do maybe hit something or say, you probably do that, you try to kick something, most most people are going to suck at it which is why the college game day thing happened for kicking is easy although it's getting expensive boys last two weeks these guys have made kicks and it's like 200 000 bucks of these guys jesus i mean it's a real deal they're starting to practice yeah i think i'm starting to get hustled too i think i'm starting to get hustled

Speaker 1 there's a chance but jason i think i think you should maybe be on the side of kickers because i think it's good for the sport you know i am listen i am and

Speaker 1 When I was with Connor, this is like in the middle of training camp and you're in a one-on-one situation.

Speaker 1 You get your ass kicked, and then you look over, and the kickers are like fucking playing a game. They're like kicking the ball.
Like, see how far they can kick it into a ring or something.

Speaker 1 You're like, God damn it, fuck these guys. Yeah.
Me and Vinny are taking a knee with the helmet on the side.

Speaker 1 It's really from a place of jealousy. It's a place of jealousy is what it is.
Hey, you got to put your face in there a little bit more, Jason. I think you got to really

Speaker 1 get a little lower with your pads. Oh, thank you.

Speaker 1 That's a good thing.

Speaker 1 Exactly.

Speaker 1 So I can understand your feeling about it all but i think it is it's good for the game like um you know on this podcast and i assume you hear it a lot travis you and taylor's relationship is great for the sport like it is getting introduced to so many people and you are

Speaker 1 and have been the perfect representation for our sport too i think personally genuinely i think that i think there's no other human that could do what you're doing right now and how you're doing it is awesome and i uh you need to know that all of us are incredibly fucking proud of the way you're representing all of us dude i'm just gonna keep winning sooner as soon as if i if we lose a game, I mean, it's going to fucking rain down, baby.

Speaker 1 She's going to keep winning. She's going to keep winning, staying on top.
Yeah, but also smiling at the Guardians games, you know?

Speaker 1 Come on.

Speaker 1 All the Clevelanders laughing around a little bit. The guards, baby, we were right there, man.
We were right there.

Speaker 1 You know, I think we were just one hit away from just taking that fucking stadium by storm. The Box bombers were going to, they were out there boo, boo, making it.

Speaker 1 It was a hostile environment out there. I was having a good time.
Okay, well, I'm happy you enjoyed it, it. But your relationship is exposing the sport to a lot of people.

Speaker 1 And I think a lot of people are falling in love with it. Globally, worldwide, the gateway for a lot of people to football is going to be the kicking positions.

Speaker 1 You know, like in Europe, the kickers and there's going to be kickers and punters coming out of Europe, I think, over the next 15, 20 years. There has to be, right? Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 In Australia and everything. So I think it's good for the sport to have kicking and punting, though.
I understand why centers and people that have like actual physical, you know,

Speaker 1 positions with actual ramifications could feel that way. But I genuinely enjoy the fact that it's a sport for everybody.

Speaker 1 I think it's going to help. I think it's going to help going forward.
Well, I think you brought a new mentality to the specialists because you were out there throwing your fucking weight around.

Speaker 1 Come on, Travis.

Speaker 1 You were out there fucking taking some heads off. Come on, Travis.

Speaker 1 We got that clip. from the hit versus the Broncos in 2013.

Speaker 1 You got selected for

Speaker 1 a drug test after that, correct? The league saw that and they freaking said, no, no, no, this can't be all natural. Punter

Speaker 1 guys.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because of what Travis just said, right there. Yeah, I think Roger Dido was watching that and saying, that guy's got to be on something.

Speaker 1 Let's go test him immediately. There was a few of those days, you know, like you do something good and you don't get drug tested the next day.

Speaker 1 If you're like a kicker and punter, it's almost like a slap in the face. Like, whoa, you didn't think it was that impressive.
Okay. I just

Speaker 1 hit a 60-yard field goal. You think I'm not, all right.
Vinatari's like 45 years old, hitting like a 58-yarder, and they're not drug testing him the next day. It's like, okay,

Speaker 1 okay,

Speaker 1 you know, so it was like a badge of honor. But yeah, I'll get lucky every once in a while to hit somebody.
I'll be sore, though, for like three, four days. That's why, what you guys do,

Speaker 1 I do not understand. I don't know how your guys' bodies hold up.
Like, Trav, right now, still, like, you take those shots and you're blocking more. I don't know how your body isn't sore forever.

Speaker 1 And Jason, whenever that tush-push happened, you were getting folded like an accordion every single time.

Speaker 1 Every single one. Every time.
Every single time. We're hyping it up.
We're like, tush-push every one. one.
Let's go. Keep it coming.
AQ's like, yep, make them suffer. Make them suffer.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I can never do that. That's why you guys are so much tougher, but it's a great sport.
Genuinely great sport. No doubt about it.
God, it's awesome.

Speaker 1 The fact that it is for everybody, you hit the nail on the head. I'm talking shit.
I deserve all this. And maybe I can, can I stop by a game day set and see if I can make one of these?

Speaker 1 We're in Texas this weekend, brother. You want to stop? Anytime you want to come by, we will make happen.

Speaker 1 Let me see what the schedule looks like. Maybe not this weekend.
Maybe not this weekend, but I think we can make something happen.

Speaker 1 Well, and also we should promote that it's happening, you know, so we can get a little bit more pressure on it. That works.
That works out.

Speaker 1 Make it like a game. Yeah, yeah.
I suck under pressure. I can't even snap the ball to the quarterback.
You know who had to go through this was big, big Rob Gronkowski. Big

Speaker 1 kick of the year for the Super Bowl, right? I forget who he was. Who he was.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Sandals. They did.

Speaker 1 That's what it was. Yeah.
And he

Speaker 1 two years in a row, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 He was practicing. Yeah, that's even worse.
I'm not practicing, so there's zero expectations. It was windy.
It was windy, you know.

Speaker 1 Speaking of the wind, what did you, that Monday night game, they missed how many, they hit the uprights three times or twice? I think it was four misses. I think all the total.
Gosh.

Speaker 1 There were some bad ones too. Like Tyler Bass missed that first one

Speaker 1 real bad left when Joe Buck actually mentioned it. I think he was trying to hit like a little bit of a liner to kind of get through it.
Yeah, gosh.

Speaker 1 So he tried to hit it a little fat, and then he ended up hitting it too fat. So then you pull that thing, it looks nasty.
But wind is a problem.

Speaker 1 You know, wind is always going going to be the worst problem. When you go out on the field and you feel that wind, what are you thinking? Is it like, I'm hoping it's at my back when I'm out there?

Speaker 1 Like, how does that work? Do you, does it affect how you're doing it? Obviously, punning, but yeah. Me, definitely.
Yeah. Yeah.
I'm not mentally tough enough for, you know,

Speaker 1 I like to see the ball fly. You know, like, there was guys in practice that loaded to use like brand new balls.
They're like, we want practice to be hard so that in the game it's easier.

Speaker 1 It's like, no, I need to see these balls flying far. I want to see them pretty.
Yeah. Yeah.
I need to give me the juiciest ball we got and I want to go downwind.

Speaker 1 I want to be feeling real good going into the game.

Speaker 1 But you wake up gay morning, and you open the blinds or whatever, and then you try to find a flag on top of a building. And if that son of a bitch was at attention, you knew it was going to be,

Speaker 1 you knew it was going to be a long day, and I was immediately bummed out. In Indianapolis, we have like a dome.
Oh, yeah. But we opened the window and the roof.
So it shielded me a little bit.

Speaker 1 I was very lucky for that. But yeah.
Kickers and punters are trying to find out what the wind is immediately upon waking up. And it's certainly a mind and a mood changer.
How about it, man?

Speaker 1 You did both at West Virginia. We're going to get to your West Virginia career in just a little bit, but you did both in college.
Which one was harder? Which one do you enjoy more, kicking or punt?

Speaker 1 So I enjoyed punting a lot more. I had a strong leg, I didn't know where I was going.
You know,

Speaker 1 that is,

Speaker 1 I could have been really good at kicking, I think,

Speaker 1 if I just had a little bit better mentality. Exactly.
What you're saying.

Speaker 1 Yeah, wow. It is.
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Speaker 1 Bam, bam, bam, bam, bam.

Speaker 1 You make everything.

Speaker 1 Groovy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's what it was. That was my right leg when kicking field goals.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 So punting was better for me because if you're stronger, you're going to help in punting because you have to hit the ball hard every single time.

Speaker 1 And once I learned the technique, I enjoyed punting a lot more than kicking. Well, based on that clip we just showed of you absolutely de-leating a guy on the sideline.

Speaker 1 Did you ever play another position? Because you don't have that. That form doesn't come out unless you've done that before.

Speaker 1 that aggression doesn't come out unless you've done that before yeah like that was not the first time you've ever laid a hit like that boys what what city are you from we're from cleveland heights ohio okay i'm from pittsburgh yep yeah football towns of course you did football town so football like these are football towns grew up playing pickup football you know what i mean it was on the street in between the telephone poles or it was in somebody's backyard so i have been playing football my entire life i played soccer though so like i played a lot of soccer and also

Speaker 1 you know it from where i'm from not a lot of people made it in sports ever so i think when i was young they like decided and deemed that i was going to make it in soccer so i think nobody really wanted to it up in anything right so soccer was my full focus but i also played football in the neighborhood and in plum a lot and everybody that played on the football team i was friends with i was like six foot tall 190 180 two playing soccer so football was a natural thing uh and then i did that punt passing kick you talked about it earlier and when i I won that, they asked me to come kick.

Speaker 1 I couldn't make it to practices, though. I would literally just show up on Fridays, like before the game.

Speaker 1 That's great.

Speaker 1 The first time putting on the pads, I had no idea what I was doing.

Speaker 1 That is,

Speaker 1 that is kind of how it all came together. But I've been playing football forever, you know.
I got an older brother, his friends played football with.

Speaker 1 So it's like I'm from Pittsburgh, so I know football. My family's happiness levels ran off the Pittsburgh Steelers' success rates.
Like my dad, that diehard of an NFL fan.

Speaker 1 So it's like, kind of had it in me, but I'll also should have played football more as a kid, I think, personally. Okay.
All right. It worked out.
I hear you.

Speaker 1 When you get to run a fake punt, what does that feel like? Because when we run trick plays in like the red zone, it's like one of the things that we're looking forward to.

Speaker 1 Like, hey, we're going to run this play. Who the hell knows what's about to happen? But it makes you kind of feel like a kid.
What's it feel like to go out there?

Speaker 1 You know, you're working on an all-week fake punt, even like more rare. It's like, how many, like, one of gold a year, maybe?

Speaker 1 If that, and you have some iconic.

Speaker 1 I know you have the catastrophic one with my man

Speaker 1 uh come on now all right

Speaker 1 my man colt anderson but what is it like to have a fake punt called cold got sacked there pretty quick

Speaker 1 it did not go well for cold

Speaker 1 that was not how that was supposed to be executed

Speaker 1 as you guys know like every week there's some fake like field goal or fake punt that is like a guarantee always have them up like every day and then like if the situation calls for it you know we'll do it but what i have found is like if the team's good normally not going to be running a lot of fake punts like i uh early in my career i was explained to uh i had an idea for a throw i had an idea for a throw i could spin it i could spin it all right

Speaker 1 let me you know let me get out there and uh i was told quickly so you want us to take peyton manning off the field

Speaker 1 this is so good it's real though

Speaker 1 no just to trick them just to trick them trust me i got this they're not gonna see it coming okay so

Speaker 1 give it right back to payton i'm giving it right back to him. We're turning the ball mover.
We're going to take him off the field so you can throw one. Okay.

Speaker 1 So, you know,

Speaker 1 it is all in like the situations of it all. And I was certainly very understanding of that.
But yeah, I was real excited, man.

Speaker 1 Anytime I got an opportunity to do something to help the team, like any of those fakes or on-site kicks that we got, like that's a turnover. You know, that's another possession.
That's a big deal.

Speaker 1 Hell yeah. Stole a possession.
It's huge. So it's like, if you feel like you contribute more, obviously you're a little bit more proud of it.
But those ones that don't work out, boy, that is

Speaker 1 deep later. Deep later.
Travel, I have a question for you. You guys run so much trick shit.
You guys get excited for that still every single time? Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 I got pumped for, I was supposed to have one actually on the Monday night game, and they brought a nickel blitz off the edge. It completely fucked it up.
It almost ended up being a turnover.

Speaker 1 And when I say we completely fucked it up, I completely fucked it up because I didn't block them off the edge.

Speaker 1 Sometimes, you know, it's just the trick plays can just get sniffed out by a blitz or, you know, when they don't don't work, it makes you feel like an idiot for even trying it.

Speaker 1 But typically, Andy Reid's trick plays are pretty on cue. And I've actually been a part of a trick play on a field goal twice in my career, once in a Pro Bowl and once against the Pittsburgh Steelers.

Speaker 1 And both successful.

Speaker 1 Was it like a tight end run or a pass? My guy, Dustin Culquit, he was the holder for,

Speaker 1 I think it was Cairo Santos at the time.

Speaker 1 Put it down and then flicked it to me. It was kind of like a little shovel pass underneath, and I was out the gate the other side.
I was a wing. That's a completion for Colquin.
That's a big deal.

Speaker 1 Let's make sure we pick up those extra yards.

Speaker 1 I should have picked up my fucking feet and scored, but I at least got the first down. Do you guys draw those up? What was it?

Speaker 1 Mic'd up or something where Andy Reid said he likes you guys to draw up the plays and then you guys practice them and do the whole thing. Is that still happening? Yeah, we still do that.

Speaker 1 We'll do some fun stuff on Thursday practices during the specialist period.

Speaker 1 We'll meet Pat and a bunch of the offensive minds. We'll go over there and just start

Speaker 1 there and just start screwing around with some stuff, see what works, see what doesn't. When we take it to Coach Reed, he's got 51%, as he always likes to tell everybody.
So it's like...

Speaker 1 He'll decide whether or not a version of that comes into the game plan. Yeah, you guys got to pitch.
You got to pitch the shit out of it. This is a good idea.
We got to look at it.

Speaker 1 I think we got one here. Yeah, it's definitely, yeah, it's definitely how good of energy you bring to him, for sure.

Speaker 1 I pitched a few fake field goals and punts, and I knew that my presentation was a big part of whether or not we are going to get this thing done.

Speaker 1 Some go, some do not, though. Boy, those things, cutting room floor, those things are gone.
Jason, Philly Philly, bananas. That's like one of the most, I mean, what, historic fakes or true personal.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Nobody really knows to this day, was it Philly Philly or Philly Special? And I can't even remember.
Like, all I know is that Nick asked for Philly Philly.

Speaker 1 It's known as Philly Special, but he's just going to go up. Lane Lane was my cue to snap it.
And that was the easiest job in the world for me. I'm just running naked.

Speaker 1 I was like, man, call this as much as you want, Doug. This is the easiest play in the world.

Speaker 1 This is going to be a historic play, and I don't have to take any hits today. Yeah, I'm just going to run.

Speaker 1 We're winning the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 It's easy. We tried to take that after you guys ran it.
And of course, it's me throwing the ball to Pat. And sure enough, there's a fucking cornerback over there.

Speaker 1 And I'm like trying to play monkey in the middle with this fucking guy. I could have just walked in the end zone.
It's against Tampa Bay the next day.

Speaker 1 And here I am trying to like, but I want the fucking touchdown pass.

Speaker 1 And threw it out of bounds like an asshole. I had smart play.
Smart football. Travis and I were special teamers at one point.

Speaker 1 We should admit that.

Speaker 1 Jason, this is why it's so fucked up because Jason was the kicker. And we're both still.
So friendly fire.

Speaker 1 Friendly, you know.

Speaker 1 I'm jealous. I'm jealous that I sucked at it so bad.
I was the worst long snapper on the planet.

Speaker 1 I mean, I was a bad quarterback snapper, short snapper. But anyways, we're wearing a quarterback.

Speaker 1 I like how humble you are. You're like the greatest center of all time.
How about Cole Komet? Did you see Cole Komet?

Speaker 1 No, I did not. What's Cole out here doing? So long snapper got hurt.
Long snapper got hurt. He was doing a Chicago.
Yeah, yeah, Chicago.

Speaker 1 Cole Komet scores touchdown that has to go snap the extra point because he's the backup long snapper. Dude, how about pandemonium on the sideline when the long snapper gets hurt?

Speaker 1 Oh, Brent Selik was our backup snapper, and he right away, just complete fear. Like we have not practiced this enough at all.
He goes out there. It's always the tight end.

Speaker 1 It's always like always the tight end. Whatever's out there,

Speaker 1 first one, perfect snap. Second one, rolled back, complete disaster.

Speaker 1 I remember this game. It was like cold and rainy and shit, though.
It wasn't a great weather day. Oh, man.
Are you a snapper, Travis? I am. I'm the backup snapper.
Me and Noah Gray.

Speaker 1 Whatever you need. Me and Noah Gray.
Noah Gray is our other tight end. And he's definitely, he actually did it in the preseason where Long Snapper got banged up.

Speaker 1 James Winchester. Shout out to Winchester.

Speaker 1 But yeah, he definitely

Speaker 1 is capable of it too, both field goal and punt.

Speaker 1 I think personally, I think the field goal, it's shorter, but it's kind of harder because you got to do it at a, it's, you got to do a low, it's almost like you got to just burn one right over right over the like grass, like right over the edge of the grass.

Speaker 1 Whereas punt, punt, you can just, you can just fire that thing back there. And hopefully the punters athletic enough.
I have one snap in a preseason game to Dustin Colquit on punt, and I

Speaker 1 yanked that thing to the right about six or seven yards, and he went and fucked grabbed it, came back to the left foot and booted it. And sure enough,

Speaker 1 yeah, he snagged it. He snagged it.
You got Jason Athletic.

Speaker 1 Yeah, geez. Boise.
All right. Never end.
Shout out to Dusty for making me look good. Now that

Speaker 1 I've faced enough shit for this, well, no, I haven't. Keep coming.
But I do want to get to the media career, Pat, because listen, you are an unbelievable punter. Absolutely outstanding.

Speaker 1 I never thought something would be more impressive of a guy going into media, but what you're doing, man, and what you have been doing is just insane.

Speaker 1 You're by far the most talented guy I've ever seen in this video.

Speaker 1 It's not even close. It's all over the place.

Speaker 1 Dude, it's, and you've done it your own way, which is even more remarkable.

Speaker 1 Did you know that this was something that you were going to get into like your whole career? When did you know you were going into media? And how did that happen?

Speaker 1 I appreciate you saying that because literally, since you guys have tried it, you guys have had massive success.

Speaker 1 So for you to say all those things that you said about me, I could just go ahead and, you know, flip that right back to YouTube, absolutely crushing it. Congrats on that

Speaker 1 nine-figure deal.

Speaker 1 Thank you for paving the way. That's good shit, boys.
That's good shit, boys, owning it yourself. Okay, boys.
That's good shit, boys. Okay, so like,

Speaker 1 I think that's the thing. Like, I have a great group of dudes around me, though.
Like, the dudes I have around me are so incredibly talented. And we all kind of understand,

Speaker 1 you know what is needed to be done each day like we're in here full time we try to keep up with everything that's happening in the sports world we have to you know kind of know what's worthy of chatting about what should be talked about also what's not being talked about that should be talked about and when we talk about it let's not take the easy way out and be negative like let's do this in a way where maybe we could celebrate sports a little bit that's kind of been since the beginning how we viewed it for sure hell yeah the guys i have around me are incredibly talented.

Speaker 1 The work ethic is insane, but also it's cool that like people seemingly have been pretty like accepting of like, hey, we're allowed to laugh and crack jokes as opposed to having to tear people down all the time in the sports world.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we'll talk shit, certainly. And we are dumb and we will get things wrong for sure.
And I am, I'm wide open for three hours every single day.

Speaker 1 But you'll have fun with it, like you did with Lombardi and Max Crosby last week. Bingo.
So we get into some shit.

Speaker 1 Like we, because we are just kind of out here having a conversation, trying to have a good time but we all have the same mindset we're all very appreciative of what we are doing and uh we're all fans of sports you know so like the more people that get into sports we're happy about and uh we want to make sports like a good time like people think of sports like hey it's a good time because there's a lot of that's driving everybody like this seemingly for sure it's like sports do this and they really do

Speaker 1 yeah and it's like that's what we try to celebrate as much as possible but we mess it up but it's the group of dudes i have around me man it's uh it's a lot of fun it is a lot of fun every day yeah you got it for sure man how did it all like?

Speaker 1 What was the first conversation of like, hey, we're gonna start this show? Okay, so when I was playing, I got a chance to do the Bob and Tom show,

Speaker 1 which you guys in Cleveland might know who a Bob and Tom show is. So Bob and Tom, maybe not.
Okay, sweet. Shout out to Bob and Tom.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 good people. Good people.

Speaker 1 They're an Indianapolis staple. They're a morning show.
They were syndicated on like 170 channels across the country, radio, 6 a.m. to 10 a.m.
They had, they owned it too.

Speaker 1 So like the business they've had. So they did good business in this entire thing.
They were in Indianapolis. It was a comedy morning show.

Speaker 1 Basically, every comedian you've ever heard of has been through there during their tour because Indianapolis is pretty centrally located.

Speaker 1 So, from six to 10, they're like nationally syndicated everywhere. And then from 10 to 10:30, it's just like a local hour here in Indianapolis.
They negotiated some deal.

Speaker 1 And it was like a Colts Tuesday, which was their off days. Jeff Saturday was the guy that did that for like 10 years with them.
Jeff Saturday leaves to go to Green Bay.

Speaker 1 They asked Jeff Saturday, like, hey, who should take your spot in here? You know, and Jeff Saturday says, like, you got to get the punter. The punter is the guy to do this or whatever.
There we go.

Speaker 1 Shout out to Jeff. So then a couple of the other media people also told him that you should get the pat or whatever.
And I think they even said my name wrong at the time.

Speaker 1 So when Bob and Tom, so when Bob and Tom approached me, and my dad was a truck driver growing up, so obviously he was on the road a lot with radio. So Bob and Tom, he knew about Bob and Tom.

Speaker 1 So I knew about Bob and Tom whenever I was a kid growing up. So when Bob and Tom approached me to join the show, I was like, I'm not going to be the one that ruins this fucking show.

Speaker 1 You know, it's been around like 30 years.

Speaker 1 I don't think I'm the right guy for your show like my the shit that i am is just not i don't think is the right for your show and tom griswold from bomb and tom said uh you would be the dumbest guy on earth if you did not come on our show or whatever and i was like oh okay i'll come to the show so i get in there first week first 30 minutes i've never felt like more comfortable like i was just they were talking about news they were talking about sports and it was like they had three comedians in there bob kavoyans like one of the quickest smart asses on earth he's there and it was just like i almost felt like alive alive in there for like 30, 30 minutes or whatever.

Speaker 1 And then the next week when they're live from 6 to 10 on the national audience, Tom Grizzle was like, hey, next week, anytime you want to come in, come in. So I went in there 6 a.m.

Speaker 1 I was like, I'm coming in here 6 a.m. So I did like four hours with them in the morning.
And it was like, I fell in love with it.

Speaker 1 Like, I really enjoyed the energy, the vibe, the way they set up the show, the structure of the show.

Speaker 1 And it was at that moment where I was like, this could be, this could be something I kind of get into. You know, then while I'm still punting, I had a stand-up tour I did around the Midwest.

Speaker 1 I did some other shows here in Indianapolis. I had a podcast.
I had a merch store while I was playing. So it was like, I was kind of doing the next step while I was still punting.

Speaker 1 And I was finding like fulfillment in all this stuff away from punting after the offense failed. You know what I mean? Like I was having a good time with the charity stuff I was doing.

Speaker 1 I was having a good time with the comedy stuff. I was having a good time with the show.
And it was like, I need to fully focus on one of these because there's only 32 jobs in the NFL.

Speaker 1 You got to have respect for that. But then also, this is so much more fun.
And I'd taken care of everybody financially that I thought I had to take care of with my NFL money.

Speaker 1 And I was like, all right, I'm going to go. I'm going to try to chase fulfillment here.
And then it's become all this. And it's so stupid.
I'm so lucky, so thankful. And I have a blast.

Speaker 1 I'm literally just trying to enjoy it all. It's such a genuine way to get into your next career, though.

Speaker 1 Like you, you, and I can't stress this enough for the guys in the NFL that are looking for something outside of football. You have to do it while you're still playing.

Speaker 1 Use those offseasons and the little connections that you make throughout your career to be able to set yourself up.

Speaker 1 And it's so cool that you're, you, you started doing that you found it and then you just took off

Speaker 1 come on you took off did it did it actually make it easier for you to kind of hang it up or like you you could probably have played as long as you wanted to right i mean

Speaker 1 yeah pack could still be out there kicking balls you already know i played in that i played that soccer tournament last summer yeah

Speaker 1 i read my hip flexor kicking balls

Speaker 1 so i don't think i could still

Speaker 1 see it jason i don't think i can still do it you were fucking balling though when i retired you were ball no i'm saying you were balling on that in the seven on seven in the what was it seven on seven what was that league yes you you know okay you saw it you saw i saw the crosses i saw yes this fucking election dude

Speaker 1 i was in carry north carolina for like four weeks we were down there that i did not know what i was signing up for and then our team got like good our team started like bonding our team started having chains i was like i fell in love with it but then yeah just ripped my shit i mean i had a pool of blood in my thigh for like three months months that's when i felt old you know that's when i felt real real old

Speaker 1 but yeah it definitely i think you know whenever guys retire and you know the stats obviously you guys both about the 80 fall into bankruptcy after five years professional athletes and everything like that and i always wondered why like when the nfl pa would come in they always talk to us about like saving money and yada yada yada and i actually asked a couple times like how come there's no ideas like for everybody to make more money when they retire like why can't we hear more like hey your story matters money Like, hey, speaking is maybe something you should get into.

Speaker 1 Tell your story. Everybody who makes the NFL has a story.
Everybody. Everybody.
Like, no matter what story it is, that success story can pivot you into a new profession later.

Speaker 1 I was wondering why that was never talked about. So I think like fully focusing to this, and I retired very early.
And everybody said, and a lot of the people said I was dumb.

Speaker 1 A lot of people said I was an idiot. when I retired.
Six million bucks on the table, all that, yada, yada, yada. So there was also like, did it make it easier to hang it up after hearing that?

Speaker 1 Maybe Maybe not, but it also made me get to a mental point that was like, I'm fucking making it. I'm going to prove all these motherfuckers wrong.
Yeah. Backs against the wall, boys.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 These people are not going to be right.

Speaker 1 That is not going to happen. And they're driving.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I think having a focus, having something to focus on, enjoying what you're doing, and still having like the locker room, because I got the boys here, you know? Yeah.

Speaker 1 It certainly helped a lot. It certainly helped a lot, I think.
I love it, man. You've talked about your boys all.

Speaker 1 And one of the things that has been so fucking awesome about the way you've done it is you have not changed who you are or how you do it. I still remember seeing you down in the Pro Bowl.

Speaker 1 What was that? Arizona, maybe, or maybe it was like,

Speaker 1 you're the exact same fucking guy, no matter when you are, whether you're on TV, off, like wherever you're at, you are Pat McAfee. You've brought all your boys with you.
You've done it your own way.

Speaker 1 You've created your own path. He's a real one.
The way your brain works is fucking, I don't even understand it, to be honest with you, man. It's like always just the neurons.

Speaker 1 The only thing that works better than your leg is a punter is those neurons you got up there. They're clicking at all times, brother.
It's impressive. Thanks.
I appreciate that.

Speaker 1 To see where it's gotten to now, ESPN, College Game Day. I don't know, man.

Speaker 1 Did you envision it getting to this? Are you happy with where it's at where you now have to go? Were you always a college game day?

Speaker 1 Were you always excited on a college game day? I mean, you had a pretty good college experience over there in West Virginia. No.
Was it always

Speaker 1 in Morgantown? We had good times in Morgantown.

Speaker 1 We got to talk a little bit about that. We know some guys.
We know some real dogs that were over there at West V, man. That was my first alcoholic drink in Morgantown at a seven-on-seven tournament.

Speaker 1 I think that's a lot of people's stories.

Speaker 1 I think that a lot of people's stories. We went down to the gas station and got Mad Dog 2020 Orange Jubilee.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, baby.

Speaker 1 Those Mad Dog 2020s used to be a real problem.

Speaker 1 Because of the color, I think everybody thought they were softer. They were not.
No, they were not. They were not.
They were not. No.
No. They were throwing a hundo.
They were in.

Speaker 1 When you talk about College Game Day, I think just like everybody else in the NFL, like we watch College Game Day every Saturday to keep up with, it's in every NFL building, you know.

Speaker 1 And I think in college, we watch it every single Saturday. So I think I've always been a College Game Day fan, you know.

Speaker 1 Come from Pittsburgh, though, which is an NFL town, which is, you know, interesting.

Speaker 1 So whenever College Game Day becomes an opportunity, it was never a show like I thought to myself, like, I could be on.

Speaker 1 But then whenever you're presented with opportunity, be on like one of the top two institutions in the history of sports media, and it's football and it's wrestling, you know, because it's in front of a live audience, yes.

Speaker 1 So, and obviously,

Speaker 1 I am so incredibly lucky to have a relationship with the WWE too, growing up, how big of a fan I was of wrestling and WWF

Speaker 1 everything it is. So, it's like football and wrestling, and it's one of the greatest shows in the history of shows.
And you're like, there's only so many spots.

Speaker 1 So, massive honor to even be asked to do this. It's like, all right, I'm going in.
I'm going to go in. And And I've been baptized by college football in this entire thing.
It is electric, bro.

Speaker 1 I know you're from Cleveland. I'm from Pittsburgh.
These college towns, especially down there in the South. I mean, out in Oregon, bananas, Berkeley, crazy.

Speaker 1 These people in the South are praying to the,

Speaker 1 it's God. It's Jesus Christ.

Speaker 1 That it is the team. You know, it's like, it's crazy.
It's been an honor, dude. It has been so much fun.

Speaker 1 So I try to have a blast everywhere I go because how committed in like, that is a part of college ball, like all the pageantry and the tradition and loyalty so i'm lucky to do that man i really am and to say did i know it was going to go like this no bro i had no idea i had no clue i was hoping just to be able to survive and pay my guys and like we just have fun go to work together do our thing but then like things just kind of happen i remember i remember the day you went door to door come on handed out some envelopes man you kidding me that's a real one right there man the backpacks to the boardpacks my bad yeah those still happen uh They do it in a different way that's much easier to tax, you know, because

Speaker 1 I guess backpacks of $100,000 is not the easiest way to.

Speaker 1 And then to broadcast it, too. So everybody got there.
Let's see what it is. Whatever happened, we saw a backpack.
Was there actually cash in that? No, no, no.

Speaker 1 Anything in there? How much did he say? He said,

Speaker 1 it was a bit. There's nothing in there.
Yeah, there's fake money, a fake money. What's the better atmosphere? College football? or NFL?

Speaker 1 I guess it's different depending on which college and which NFL, but just in general, you've been a part of both. I don't know.
Kansas City seems pretty insane.

Speaker 1 Arrowhead seems crazy, right? I mean, that is crazy. Rocking, baby.
Arrowhead seems like rocking. They got chants and shit, too, right? That they do throughout the entire game.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 In the home of the

Speaker 1 J.

Speaker 1 Hey, when you're in an away place and you hear that, you guys got to get pumped about that. Oh, fuck yeah.
We're here. We're here.

Speaker 1 I just know the away team or the home team hates that shit. It is one thing I'm jealous of soccer stadiums is those old school chants, those call and react chants.
Yes. You don't have that electronic.

Speaker 1 So that's what every college has. That's what every college has.
Those are electric. All right.
So that keeps the stadiums like throughout. Like, you know, there's a dead period in NFL games, maybe?

Speaker 1 Yeah. It's like the college ones, there's no dead period because there's like give and take calls back and forth.

Speaker 1 Like when I do all that shit on game day, it's like that's what they're doing in the stadium. And I, you know, I'm very lucky to learn that.
So like the day before.

Speaker 1 So fucking electric out in Eugene, Oregon this weekend.

Speaker 1 You had me off my couch singing with you, dog. That shit was everybody is in the group chat.
Every group chat I'm a part of, like, bro, Pat McAfee's the best thing that happened in college football.

Speaker 1 Everybody's saying it. Dude, you had everybody livid and ready to fucking rock and roll for that Oregon Ohio state game, man.
Tell everybody. I said, thank you for the kind remarks.
And

Speaker 1 the thing about it is. I'm learning that from like walking around the town the day before.
So I try to go like experience like their food spot. Like what's their food spots that they talk about?

Speaker 1 Cause every college man, hell yeah.

Speaker 1 So I'm trying to tell my own story. Like when I go experience, I go see some spots.
I'll go see the team facility and I'll try to ask people at all these places. I'm like, hey, what's the shit?

Speaker 1 What are we, what's the, you know, what are we, what are we saying out here? And I'll get like an answer from somebody and they'll be like, you say, good. And then they'll say, docs.

Speaker 1 I'm like, okay, they'll go. And they're like, they'll go with me.
I'm like, thank God. Because

Speaker 1 there has been one time. It was for the WWE.
I do like commercial break. I do, I kind of promo commercial breaks in these arenas and I try to do the same thing.
I try to get the local thing.

Speaker 1 I was misled. I was misled.

Speaker 1 I was told, I was told that the crowd was going to go. And they did not go.
So

Speaker 1 the first time when that crowd responds to me in the morning for game day and I hear it back, I'm like, thank you. I was not lied to.
That is. That is good news.
But Eugene showed up in a big way.

Speaker 1 Berkeley showed up in a big way. Obviously, Alabama, those places, it's, I'm having a time of my life, man.
And I'm learning so much about all these schools and everybody's cool.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you look like it.

Speaker 1 And you look like, dude, you play to a crowd great, but it doesn't look like it's like being done in any, like you just are genuinely loving to be there, and it's fucking awesome to see, man.

Speaker 1 It's awesome. Well, that's like a part of it, you know, like that's a part of college ball is like the fans.
Fuck yeah, that's the beauty that you're on site that you get. Let's take advantage of it.

Speaker 1 And you're, I mean, you maximize it, brother. It is awesome to see.
What were you wearing? You were on a Fred Flingstern thing during picks the other night, dude. I don't know what I'm doing.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Jason. Wilma.
Wilma.

Speaker 1 That's awesome. That's awesome.
You enjoying it? You're crushing it. I'm having fun.
I'm having fun. I'm learning.

Speaker 1 I do want to, like, dude, I would love to talk to you when we even got more time about how you prepare. That's the one thing that's the craziest is I've never watched this much football.

Speaker 1 Like, when you play, you watch your own team and you get really hyper-focused on the players you're playing and what you're doing for the game. Now it's like, dude, I got to watch like all this stuff.

Speaker 1 Like, everybody's just watching all these games and it's hard. And for you, you're doing all of this.

Speaker 1 Like, it is even more impressive yeah you're you're in every sport dude i don't know how your mind does this dude i don't know it's the neurons the neurons are whoppering on a different level man so here's how

Speaker 1 if i see it if i see it normally it's gonna stay there all right right so you guys don't but i have to see it though so like so like the night before college game day yeah i'm running through everything I'm running through every team.

Speaker 1 I'm running through every player. I got Tone Diggs, one of my guys.
He writes up a full like preview of what the weekend will be like, but I have to see it, you know?

Speaker 1 So once I see it, though, it's in there. It's in there.
So it takes up some time. It's like for you acting, Travis, what were you? Did you memorize? How'd you memorize those lines and everything?

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 the lines are you just gotta, you gotta, I was fortunate enough to have an acting coach, and you just keep shooting the lines over and over and over again until you get comfortable with it.

Speaker 1 And then you'll finally find out and feel out what the scene actually is. At least that's what that's what my learning experience was for the lines and everything in acting.

Speaker 1 And then you can kind of riff. How'd you do it? You crush it?

Speaker 1 I think Jason, Jason didn't tell me I sucked. So, uh, so far, so good.

Speaker 1 So far, so good. Let's go, dude.

Speaker 1 Let's go, dude. This is fun as hell.
Congratulations, dude. Hell yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, I don't know how often you know, people just celebrate right in your face on your show. I apologize for doing it,

Speaker 1 but uh, that's on me completely. That's awesome, though, dude.
I think about some of the shit you're doing right now and like the pictures.

Speaker 1 You know, my wife, massive fan of your lady, so I get updates on all this shit. You're just having dinner with Wolverine and Deadpool.
And then you're,

Speaker 1 you know, it's like, do you ever get, do you ever, like, at this moment, you still understand, right? You still. At this point, at this point, it's just, it, you can't fathom what's going on.

Speaker 1 So it's just like a dream. You're just like, oh, yeah, no, you're not surprised by like the next thing that comes in or comes

Speaker 1 that walks into the door. Yeah, it's crazy.
It's insane. I don't even, I don't know how the fuck I got to live this silly ass fucking life, man, but I am, I'm definitely fortunate for it, for sure.

Speaker 1 You've earned it. You've earned it, man.
Don't forget it. That's awesome, dude.
We're going to wrap up this segment with, we got to ask, you don't have to answer.

Speaker 1 We'd prefer you answer, but obviously this is up to you, Pat.

Speaker 1 First question

Speaker 1 we got to ask. Nick Siriani brings up a story about you all the time,

Speaker 1 drunk and swimming in a canal. He brings it up during the off-season portion where everybody's going away and he's talking about

Speaker 1 don't be too crazy when you're away from the facilities. Could you maybe share that story with all the 92% out there? Well, I hope Nick Siriani, Coach Siriani,

Speaker 1 was an honorable lad and said that that's all a legend.

Speaker 1 I was certainly found rather intoxicated

Speaker 1 very early in the morning, shirtless and wet.

Speaker 1 Late in October, it was cold.

Speaker 1 It was a cold morning. And in the police report, they pieced together that i had probably been swimming in a canal nearby

Speaker 1 big thanks to those cops they got me off the streets that morning when i was certainly intoxicated publicly uh caught a 140 fine for that uh

Speaker 1 and do some community service and uh i still haven't got it cleared that we don't know if i was in a canal and by we i mean the police or me

Speaker 1 That was

Speaker 1 nobody has proof. We've lost that.
We moved along.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I appreciate Coach Giriani saying, don't be that guy and me being that guy because you should have seen how I felt in jail.

Speaker 1 I am not a good enough punter to be sitting in jail right now. No way.
I thought it was over. I thought it was over.
I thought it was over.

Speaker 1 Who's the bigger legend in West Virginia? You or Owen Schmidt? Owen Schmidt, dude. That guy could be governor anytime he wanted to be.
Dude, it's insane, ain't it?

Speaker 1 Dude, you know, he's a truck driver. He works for UPS now.
Yeah, I'll FaceTime him. I'll FaceTime him, and he'll be, you know, at work, and then he'll introduce me to a couple of the boys.

Speaker 1 I'll get a chance to chat with him. I got a chance to see him a few weeks ago whenever we went to Morgantown to do our show before West Virginia took on Penn State.

Speaker 1 If you were to do a call in that game, West Virginia lost Penn State, but there was a two-hour delay.

Speaker 1 So there was a two-hour delay. It wasn't a real game.
You know, it shouldn't even count in this entire thing. But Owen was there.
He was one of the guests.

Speaker 1 He drove up from Greenbrier area multiple hours. I did not know he had to drive that far, so he held that over my head, obviously.
Because Pat White came in from Alabama.

Speaker 1 I gave, I got Pat White on a plane.

Speaker 1 How about it, baby? So I got Pat White on a plane to come up, you know, flew up to Morgantown. We're going to make sure Owen had to drive, so he held that over my head, obviously.

Speaker 1 But as soon as Owen gets in front of that crowd, they pay their respects, man. Owen Schmidt is like the living embodiment of what a West Virginia mountaineer should be.

Speaker 1 And I've never seen a human be able to delete beers like Owen Schmidt. It's impressive.
Very impressive. Wasn't it his nickname?

Speaker 1 nickname was that is this true and this is the story i remember his nickname was runaway beer truck is that accurate yeah it was it was probably the most perfect nickname ever given to anybody in the history literally

Speaker 1 you want to talk about run right through a brick wall man that guy would do it all he would break helmets travis he would break face on his face on his face and then yeah he was psycho we got to talk about 2008 uc versus west virginia i know you remember this one i said a story earlier earlier about alcohol being my first, uh, my first drink ever being in Morgantown.

Speaker 1 I also had the first beer poured on me in a football uniform in the corner of the end zone after overtime, which you freaking solidified.

Speaker 1 Well, how long was that kick? That was a long one that you said. Oh, I forget that.
I forgot that kick. That was like Biggie's championship type game.
Yeah, it was huge. There was a lot on the line.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 We won it overtime. I felt like you said

Speaker 1 a field goal at the end of a regulation to send it to overtime. Hand it on side kicks.
And the on-site kicks. Hand it on-site kick.
Hand it on side kicks.

Speaker 1 Forgot about that. Forgot about that.
It's all coming back.

Speaker 1 You remember our fans were spurning back in. They left.
They went into the hills. They went to the hills.
Then they came back with cans. I don't know how they got them in the stadium.
They

Speaker 1 running in. I do remember that.
Yeah, I do remember that. And we lost.
Well, we got a roughing the passer, I think. It was something like that late.
There was a penalty, and then we

Speaker 1 Kazim Ali caught one in the corner of the end zone. yeah our tight end and i just remember beers being rained down upon us it was yeah yeah those people were pretty intoxicated public yeah

Speaker 1 they were maybe in the canal

Speaker 1 they were up and down that whole year hey that cincinnati west virginia run was cool when you guys had brian kelly's head on big ease

Speaker 1 yeah big you guys started it right was it you guys or louisville it felt like it was louisville then you guys took it from louisville then we took it for a little bit There was like a weird run there where the big Es actually had some really good teams.

Speaker 1 Okay, if I recall here, new Big E's happened i like year i don't know if it was the year i got there 2005 is when i graduated high school so when i get there i think it was new big east louisville just came to the big east remember they were supposed to run big east i think yeah they have brian bra uh braum and uh who was the running back that they had that was a beast i can't remember his name anyway mike bush bush bush yes my dog absolute dog and then harry i think was over there too like they had they had a great team we triple overtime i think my freshman year we beat them i think so it was like we had it and then louisville Louisville took it.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And then you guys were.

Speaker 1 Pittsburgh was pretty good in there, too. They had old Fitzy and LaShawn McCoy.
They were never the front team, though. They were good.
I don't know. I might have just been a Shady fan.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 Shady. Oh, they did win one year.
I think you're right. When Shady was there, they might have won one year, too.

Speaker 1 No, they lost. They lost at the end of it.
Talk about ball security. Shady would show up in your stadium

Speaker 1 like this and shake the shit out of every human in the middle. It was so crazy.
It was awesome to watch. The big East was a real deal.
It was.

Speaker 1 It was a fun conference there.

Speaker 1 Shout out to the old Big East. Rest in peace.
Rest in peace. UConn even didn't suck.
No,

Speaker 1 UConn.

Speaker 1 They used to be a bad man. They were used to some runs.

Speaker 1 They were good at basketball. They're holding down basketball.
They're holding it down. They beat us.
I can't talk. Yeah.
We're about third way through the NFL season.

Speaker 1 Who's your early Super Bowl pick, Pat?

Speaker 1 The Chiefs are still the Chiefs, brother. All right, there we go.
All right, now. And that is not just because he's sitting here, and I'm such a massive fan.
I'm just a believer in greatness.

Speaker 1 I legitimately am. I believe that there is levels to this shit.
And for 20-some years, we saw the New England Patriots for what reason? Well, they just were

Speaker 1 the fact that they just

Speaker 1 played them in the air, in the air and the ball.

Speaker 1 In the airs and the ball. And I was against the Colts.

Speaker 1 Radiotaping coaches. Yeah, spy gate up.

Speaker 1 All this shit gets thrown at one thing, and that's greatness normally. That's what it comes to.

Speaker 1 That is how it is. So I think when push comes to shove,

Speaker 1 I think these dudes figure it out. Like, I just am a firm believer.

Speaker 1 Last year, you know, there was a little time, and I don't want to bring up bad times to the Kennesaw Chiefs, but the boys seemingly stunk for a bit. There was a few weeks.

Speaker 1 It was a rough road. It got a little bit.

Speaker 1 It's the only year I ever beat the Chiefs and Andrew. That was the only time we ever got it done.
And you still won the Super Bowl. that's what i'm saying there was a time

Speaker 1 everybody thought they were done they're not even making the playoffs it's over hey everybody but me i want you

Speaker 1 okay i i was standing i was wavering i was standing on this microphone and i said the chiefs is still the chiefs i don't know what everybody's talking about pat had a flu one day it was windy the other day i just saw i just believed and uh i just think that that's the case and then i watched that quarterback show or whatever the hell it is oh yeah on netflix yeah and i realized that patrick holin's like one of the coolest dudes of of all fucking time.

Speaker 1 It's not only

Speaker 1 that, don't make him any better, man. They don't make him any better, dude.
House and beers, talking shit, working his dick off, fighting through injury, and then making every play.

Speaker 1 They don't make that there's you know what I mean, yeah. That that doesn't that doesn't,

Speaker 1 yeah. So, I believe in the chiefs personally, that's what I that's why I believe in the chiefs.
I love it, even with even with a team like the Jets getting a guy like Devontae Adams today,

Speaker 1 big deal. Five is good, too.
He popped his head in. I don't know if you saw it, Devontae popped his head into our conversation with Aaron Rodgers.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 I did not know. I did not.

Speaker 1 He came in with a football in hand, turns it,

Speaker 1 spins the ball. Hello, Devontae.
Good to see you.

Speaker 1 They seem to be ready to go. I mean,

Speaker 1 they just lost to the Bills less than like 14 hours before that. And Jets fans are pumped.
They are very, very excited about the future. And I can see why.
Devontae's a dog. He's a good dog.

Speaker 1 Devontae, Garrett Wilson, they got some, and the offense looked a lot better, especially in the first half,

Speaker 1 this past week, so, or yesterday.

Speaker 1 They're running it jason either way i know how about that let's hand the ball off get this guy brees hall involved who's that brees hall pretty good he's pretty good also let's do more tush pushes let's get these centers

Speaker 1 let's compare some more did you compare vertebrae did you bitch about it on this show a lot or no i don't know if i saw it about your body just getting demolished just getting absolutely just fold like you said like an accordion he's just getting folded every single fucking time it's hilarious

Speaker 1 i laugh at it at this point i never used to think about how much we were hyping it up too we were so loud like tush bush so awesome 32 keep doing it we just keep doing it and jason has to be supportive

Speaker 1 he has to

Speaker 1 talk too much and lane johnson lane johnson let the cat out of the bag he used to say that every time he would get called and the hold on just be like fuck my life

Speaker 1 that's awesome but you literally publicly had to support it because it was working and it was like your thing It was like and listened. I hated it, but let's let's you know what?

Speaker 1 If it gets the first down, keeps the strap, converts.

Speaker 1 I mean, it's a free,

Speaker 1 you're avoiding a turnover. It's insane.
Yeah, I agree. That's a lot of football.

Speaker 1 I'll take your compressed vertebrae for that. Bring it on.
Pat, who's your, who's your two early MVP right now? Oh,

Speaker 1 okay.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 do you believe that somebody other than a quarterback can win the MVP?

Speaker 1 I think it's going to take a lot. It's going to be hard.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Depends.

Speaker 1 It's going to take something like

Speaker 1 what this Boise State kid is doing at running back. Holy shit.
It's going to take something like that to take the attention away from a quarterback getting it, I think. He's ahead of Barry Sanders.

Speaker 1 If Barry Sanders had like 2,600 rush roads, that's going to make touchdowns. He's ahead of schedule.

Speaker 1 Six games in. He's already got 1,200 and like 17 touchdowns.
The shit's ridiculous.

Speaker 1 And to be clear, Gente, we think it's incredibly admirable and cool that you're still at Boise State because he led the country in yards, I think, last year, too. I assume there was big offers

Speaker 1 for him to go. But

Speaker 1 NIL money. Oh, yeah.
I assume there was big offers to get him out of Boise State. He's still in Boise running on that Smurf turf.
I respect.

Speaker 1 He blends in that blue turf, man. Dude, he never stops running either.
He's very impressive.

Speaker 1 But if we stick in a running back to potentially win an award that normally goes to quarterback like Derrick Henry right now, he's scoring touchdowns just like non-stop. It's just like

Speaker 1 just when they think just because the Titans got rid of him, everyone's like, oh, he's not the same player.

Speaker 1 Fucking just running, just running 22 miles, 21 miles an hour, 22 miles per hour, getting tickets in a school zone. You kidding me? He's this tall.
He's unbelievable, man. I'll admit, I'm an idiot.

Speaker 1 When they made that pick, I'm like, dude, he's a shotgun. They're going to put him in shotgun.
How's this going to work with Lamar? And it's like, oh, yeah, no.

Speaker 1 He's just bigger and faster and stronger than everybody. Let's just get those guys on our team.
Let's just let that guy go north and south. Good luck, Kat Snap.

Speaker 1 And that's hardball football, too. It is.
Yeah, he will. And then they they got Ricard as a fullback, too.
It's like he's 280 or whatever, former DN.

Speaker 1 It's like, I don't understand how they were allowed to do that trade. I don't know how that was.
That seems to be unfair. Well, good job, Harbaugh.
I hope he wins.

Speaker 1 I would be very much as obviously offensive alignment, but King Henry, I don't know, man. That guy's just, he's just a dog.
He is. Let's get an offensive alignment award.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 that's like against the religion of O-line to get an award, but it's like, it's got to be like a group award. They got the Ford tough offensive line.

Speaker 1 Fucking Penne Sewell is fun to watch now. See how they got hooking lateral, almost had a touchdown, had a called back.
Dude, he balanced himself.

Speaker 1 How is he? Three, what?

Speaker 1 He's got to be at least 350. He's up there.
He's a big man. Big man.
Hey, my elbow would explode. Trav, why is everybody so big, strong, and fast these days?

Speaker 1 I don't know, man. I don't get it.
I don't get it. Where do they find these people at? How tall are you? 6'5.
6'4 and 7'8, if you ask the fucking combine.

Speaker 1 They fucking cut a quarter of a fucking eighth. Like, can you just give me the

Speaker 1 eighth of an inch? Just can I get that eighth and be 6'5, or do I gotta be 6'4 and 7'8? They push you down, too. They push you down.
They did. They got it twice.
They're like, yeah, 6'5

Speaker 1 seems too tall for you. I think we need to do this again.
I just talked about these people being too big and too fast and too athletic, and I'm talking to a dipshit here at 6'5, moving around like 4.

Speaker 1 At the age of like 50. You know what I mean? I mean, Travis, you're a freak show, brother.

Speaker 1 Having fun out there. Pat, we're getting close to getting out.
Is there anything that we haven't hit that you want to talk about? Anything that like, I don't know, man.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you got anything fun coming up that people don't know about yet? No, dude. There's, there's way too much of me.
This show ending quicker is better.

Speaker 1 But aside from that, I would like to let you guys know, I appreciate the hell out of the invite on the program here. I'm a massive fan of you guys.

Speaker 1 And what you're doing right now with media is a big deal. And I hope you get a chance to kind of take it in and enjoy it all.
You guys are legends.

Speaker 1 And Travis, the fact that you're still able to do all this while still playing, I know it's not easy to balance.

Speaker 1 You keeping the main thing, the main thing, and still being able to do all this, incredibly impressive.

Speaker 1 And Jason, your big ass with your untied Tims, just keep dropping in this media world and taking over.

Speaker 1 Your acting abilities in a Buffalo Wild Rings commercial and then the ESPN NFL Monday Night commercial. I mean, let's go, boys.
You guys are crushing it. Great time to be alive.
I appreciate

Speaker 1 you both so much. Well, the honor is all ours, Pat.
Thank you for coming on. Thank you for paving the way, changing the game.
It's incredible to watch your career up to this point.

Speaker 1 Can't wait to keep watching, keep being you. Oh, yeah.
Can't wait to see you in freaking Austin, Texas this week. College game day.

Speaker 1 Intern Brandon, big Austin, Texas guy, big, big, big Texas fan down here. Brandon's horns.
What are the chains, brother? Don't leave me astray. Don't leave me astray.

Speaker 1 Keep making sports fucking fun, brother. I love watching you, man.
Love watching you.

Speaker 1 I can't wait to join you on the fucking show sometime soon. Yeah, don't feel any both both of you, okay? There is an open invite for any Kelsey.
Mama.

Speaker 1 I want to get to the fucking Thunderdome, and I'm fucking pissed I haven't been there yet, man.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Hey, hey, listen, if you make it out to Indianapolis ever, would love to have you here in the Thunderdome. Have a good old time.
But either, anytime you both want to come on the program, open invite.

Speaker 1 Whenever the hell I would be grateful and thankful, just like I am that I'm here. And you guys, you're the best, man.
You're the greatest, brother. Pat, thanks so much, brother.
All right, now.

Speaker 1 Pat McAfee, ladies and gentlemen.

Speaker 1 You're the greatest, dog. Great.

Speaker 1 Thank you so much to Pat McAfee for coming on. I can't tell you how electric that was.

Speaker 1 That's one of the ones we've been waiting for. We've been waiting to get him.

Speaker 1 We finally got him. Thank goodness.
And he's the busiest dude in the world. Thank you, brother, for giving us your time, man.
We fucking love that dude, man.

Speaker 1 He's changing sports for the good, man. He's making sports fun as fuck.

Speaker 1 Similar to how I was talking to you about being a part of ESPN and everything, McAfee's doing it at a whole nother level, man, On all aspects, the college world, wrestling, you name it, man.

Speaker 1 All of sports. He's making it better, man.
Thank you. Appreciate you coming on, brother.
He's changing the world, but he's still staying true to that yinjer. Ha ha.

Speaker 1 That wraps up another episode of New Heights. Thank you, obviously, again to Pat.

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