Bye Week Baseball, Eagles ‘Constipated Offense’ and Defending Kickers with Pat McAfee | Ep 105

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You said for years I've been thinking about this. That's what you said.
For years I've been thinking about this. We've been talking about this.
You've been laying at night thinking like, I need to get this into a show somehow oh gosh this is why you did the uh the college game day you got you're starting to bring the fans out of here for talking shit that's right jason do you think you could fucking kick a field goal bingo you know what i don't know if my hips got me in it we might have to find this out welcome back to new heights ladies and gentlemen a wondry show produced by Waves, ladies and gentlemen. A Wondery Show produced by Wave Sports and Entertainment and brought to you by Peloton.
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This is my big brother, Jason Kelsey, coming off the bye week. Cleveland Heights High School alum, Cincinnati Bearcat alum.
The Bearcats got back on the winning track getting after UCF this weekend. Shout out to the Bearcats.
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Well, we got another incredible episode lined up for all you 92 percenters.

We're going to talk about both our weekends out of the house.

The Eagles big win against the Brownies. And we're going to be joined by a very special guest who's definitely going to destroy me

for my take on getting rid of kickers.

Absolutely ridiculous.

Yeah, it's the one and only the Yinzer himself.

McAfee. We got him.
We've been waiting for this one for a long time love pat man i mean probably most legendary media person out there right now dude so good just ridiculously talented i cannot wait to talk to him about this last one this one in eugene oregon over this past weekend he got everybody to start cheering uh singing along to shout and oh my fucking gosh was it amazing i i literally started singing along as i was watching the video got goosebumps it was like man that had to be fucking rocking he's killing it on game day he makes shit fun man it's so fucking cool watching no matter what he does you're having fun exactly before i get crushed by uh probably the most legendary kicker to play the game at this point let's get a little bit of that new news new news all righty are you smarter than a celebrity premiere that's right travis's brand new show are you smarter than a celebrity debuts today october 16th on prime video oh shit it's today it's today fuck well tomorrow but today i'm terrified terrified what people are gonna say it is uh i had so much fucking fun doing uh are you are you smarter yeah you were telling me about this there's a lot of good so much fun man so the thing i didn't i thought so the celebrities aren But they do play along in the game. The contestants on the show, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Nicole Byer, Chad Ojochenko, Natasha...
Natasha Leggero. Leggero.
Thank you for saying that. Nikki Glaser.
You already know. Garcelle Beauvais.
There's a whole bunch of people. They're not the contestants.
They're the ones that are assisting the contestants with the answers. Right? Like, it's the old Are You Smarter Than a Fifth Grader? Where they're the ones answering the question.
Yeah, they're they're playing along the contestants have to decide whether they're going with that answer whether they're doing their own answer in in some there are a few uh twists to this game and um i do a great job of describing it in the episodes so you just gotta yeah you turn that thing on you'll uh you'll get caught up to all the rules and regulations that we got going on with the celebrities and how the celebrities can help you out.

Amazon did actually send us a couple clips from the show.

Oh, yeah.

There's one where you learn what a BBL is.

Oh, yeah.

I don't know if I know what a BBL is.

Brazilian butt lift.

Oh, yeah.

So let's check out this clip.

My man Fitzy.

If I lose my glutes, I'll just go get one of those. You know you're playing for $100,000.
Ooh, Kelsey, I do, I do. If you win that money, what are you going to do with it? You really want to know, Kelsey? Of course I do.
Who doesn't want to know? Hey, okay. Hi.
Ooh, a BBL. Kelsey, okay.
Okay. I'm going to give you a BBL.
Oh, a BBL. Kelsey, OK.
OK. I'm trying to drag a wagon.
What? I didn't hear her say that one. OK.
Can you tell the audience what a BBL is? BBL? You know what a BBL is? A bigger butt. Oh, a bigger butt.
What's the L? What? It's a BBL. A bbl i did not know that's what that was called thank you you're welcome well she gets me yeah there you go yeah there you go the old brazilian butt lift i know i know where to go if i lose my glutes coach reed starts seeing seeing these glutes getting a little saggy i'll just go get a bbl and lift these things up.
Dude, I ain't going to – all you got to do is do some RDLs. Just get a little bit of – get some squats in.
Get them glutes. You see all the girls are doing it on the Instagram.
She said I'm trying to drag a wagon. Yeah.
Yeah. I'm not going to lie.
I'm not a fan of the BBLs. Not a fan of the BBLs.
Listen, man. It looks okay.
It looks okay for like a couple of years maybe. But then that thing just starts sagging.
It looks like you got a diaper on the backside of you. It's not a good look.
It doesn't happen like that all the time. Yes, it does, bro.
I'm not a fan of the BBL. I'm out on the BBLs.
I'm trying to give everyone the benefit of the doubt. Just do some glute bridges.
I don't think it works. You can build the wagon naturally.
You don't need the synthetics unless you got Kelsey jeans. But then you got a big fucking stiff ass back there.
Yeah. You got a big hard ass.
But when you're not clenching it, it's still got some juice. I don't know.
I'm not a fan of them. Me neither.
It just doesn't have the right shape. It just looks bad.
When your hamstrings don't match, when the ham i don't know i'm not a yeah i'm not a fan of them me neither just doesn't have the right shape it just looks bad when your hamstrings don't match when the hamstrings don't match your ass it doesn't look good i'm just being like it's not a you can't just add to the ass and then you got hams gotta go into this hammies that ain't right small calves small hamstring in a wagon we can't do this you got bad circulation where all your fat deposits are just accumulating in your ass. This seems like this is an unhealthy thing.
All right. Well, there you go, kids.
Outside of learning what a BBL was, it was a fun show. And I never in a million years thought I was ever going to ever be an actual host of a game show.
I always thought it was going to be fun to maybe go on one of the game shows. Yeah.
And then somebody asked me, do you want to host it? I mean, I guess I used to mimic all the game show hosts as a kid just fucking around. And I love the game shows for sure.
We used to watch the game show network all the time. Family Feud, Steve Harvey.
We used to hit all that stuff. We were were a game show network i still do the game shows i still like game shows well then you might like this one jason i actually i was asked how how well my family would do uh on the show and i and i was like man you know what i think you and big ed would be pretty solid dad would be good dad knows a lot of useless knowledge he's been spending a lot of time in front of the computer, not really going anywhere with them knees.

He remembers stories very well.

I'll blank on it, and I'll confuse it with something else in a heartbeat.

If you let Big Ed be a celebrity and eat buffalo wings while he's playing,

he might not miss a question.

He might get every single one of them.

If you give Ed a Han he might not miss a question. He might get every single one of them.
He's got to deal with him chewing the wings and sweating. It's a box.
You get some... What's that? Slope? Y equals MX plus B.
Winston Churchill. That's Winston.
you probably would have said that who knows well it sounds like my wednesdays are going to be very full yeah play along play along and let me know how how good you do what time what time does this premiere at i have no idea what time it streams i'm pretty sure well i know it streams but usually there's like when it's a debut it doesn't have a time or is it just a day it's just the day yeah all right so i can watch it immediately so it doesn't interfere with the grotesquerie at night there you go all right there you go if you're not just sick of fucking seeing me on the tv oh dude i can't wait please tell tell me how well you do because i was actually i was kind of like quizzing myself going through the questions

in the back just making sure i would read them once just so that i because i'm a terrible reader so i would make sure i would get all the pronunciations done like corrected in the background but yeah i would love to see uh how well you do should we do it we'll just get can we get the video from prime and then i'll just do it and i answer them boom boom see how. See how it happens.
Do it live. Yeah.
Or just tell me. I'll tell you.
I'll tell you. Nice.
Yeah. So make sure you guys check that thing out on Amazon, I believe.
Yeah. Amazon Prime.
All right. New Wondery Plus exclusive this Thursday.
And in more new news, our next Wondery Plus exclusive will be, like I said, available Thursday. We both watched the Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants.
We did. Yeah.
It's happened. It was an electric movie.
I'll tell you what. It had me glued to the screen the whole time.
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I don't think it did match the title.

I mean, yeah, it did.

The pants really aren't a big part of the movie to me.

What?

The pants are like bringing them into a lot of their like...

Well, we don't want to get too much of this review.

We're going to save it.

Yeah, it definitely had something to do with the of this review. We're going to save it.
Yeah.

It definitely had something to do with the movie.

Had nothing to do with it.

It tied all the girls together, Jason.

Yeah, you're right.

Their entire childhood and friendship

their entire lives.

That's not enough.

We need pants.

We'll talk about it in the 100 Plus though.

It shouldn't even be.

It should be the...

They acted like they were jeans.

They couldn't have...

The whole movie's premise is like these girls are amazed because it's the first pair of jeggings they tried on, and there's some spandex to them. You're giving it away, Jason.
You're giving your review. Sisterhood of the Traveling Jeggings.
That's what it should have been called. Yeah.
Out of the House! Moving on. We both got out of the house this past week, and we're going to talk about it.
Out of the House is brought to you by the powerful backing of American Express. I tailgated at the link and then went up to East Rutherford, New Jersey where I tailgated with Buffalo Bills and New Jersey Jets fans.
New York Jets fans. Trav, you had a bye this week, and there's a small chance that we also saw you out of the house yeah no you saw me at the uh the guards and a gang's game well we saw you before that too is uh courtesy of this picture right here uh we saw you going out to eat it looked like maybe you guys are out in new york city you and tay that's what we do we like to go out and eat yes yeah i mean who doesn't why wouldn doesn't? Why wouldn't you? What in the world was the shirt though? We got to show this.
I have no idea. I think it's just art.
I think it's just people. And then there's a horse.
I don't know. What's underneath that horse? I'm not sure.
I didn't really look at this shirt like that when I got it. I just like the color and the patterns and stuff.
It looks like a hand. can't really see it i mean it's like a pointing finger like that it's kind of cropped funny but that i mean on this picture it kind of appears like it's a horse cock that'd be crazy if i was wearing a horse shirt that's crazy yeah yeah that's why you always gotta you always gotta really you know you to make sure you know what you're wearing, kids, or everybody can just assume now.
Oh, gosh. Well, we do know what you're wearing because British GQ did a whole breakdown on the shirt.
Oh, nice. Thanks, British GQ.
In New York City, the American football player wore a Navy bowling shirt with a camp collar design and a boxy fit released as part of Jaquemieu's latest La Casa line. It's a signature move from the French label, flowy, fun, and more vibrant, Merseille than minimalist Paris.
It's a fancy way of saying it's a button down with horses and people fucking on it. People fucking? I mean, look at that.
That's what you got out of that? Look at these two people right here. You're ridiculous, Jason.
That woman is riding that man. She's straddling him.
They're standing next to each other. No, they're not.
No, no, no, not that one. The one right below it.
You can't even see that guy's legs. they're sitting next to each other no they're not no no not that one the one right below it you can't even see that guy's legs they're still they're sitting next to each other no no no he's underneath you're making an assumption there's nothing saying that that they're having sex what are her tits out for if they're not having sex travis she could just be wearing a very tight shirt that shows her her tits she's got a bbl on the back side of.
I mean, what's happening on this shirt? No, those hamstrings are very – The hamstrings match it. You're right.
You're right. You're ridiculous.
The fact that that got you fired up is ridiculous. Absolutely ridiculous.
Trav, we also saw you at the Guardians-Yankees game. While you were in New York, you also caught Guardians Yankees ALCS game.
Yeah, game one, baby. Playoff baseball.
What is it about playoff baseball that's so electric? I think it's just the intensity. You play all those 182 games for these moments, and then every single pitch matters.
Every single pitch matters. A few got away from our first reliever there, unfortunately.

And sure enough, we just weren't able to bounce back from the Yankees' power, man.

I'll tell you what, man.

When Stanton and Soto, when they get a hold of one, man, oh, shit.

That ball flies off the bat, man.

It is impressive.

It is impressive shit.

My guy Judge, he's right there on having a huge game.

and I've got to do it. that ball flies off the bat man it is impressive it is impressive shit my guy uh judge is uh he's right there on having a huge game and i mean the whole time i'm just i'm screaming i'm i'm i'm in hostile territory because it's the bronx bombers and i'm i'm at the yankee stadium in the playoffs and i'm over here cheering for the guards because i'm a cleveland kid and i want to see cleveland win a fucking world series and yeah It was mixed feelings because I was there trying to have some fun with Tay and everybody.
All our friends, Eli and Chelsea came. Lefkoe and Enum came.
Oh, nice. We had an unbelievable crew with us and hanging with us.
You know, it was fun. It was fun.
Even though the guards couldn't pull it off, it was still an exciting, exciting game. And it was cool to see Yankee Stadium because I've always wanted to see that thing in person in a playoff game in a hostile environment.
And it didn't disappoint, man. The Yankees, the fans, the players, everybody involved, man.
It was awesome. There is something about playoff baseball that – and I love regular baseball.
Anytime you go down to the ballpark, you're getting a hot dog and a beer, you're having some fun. Oh, yeah.
But playoff baseball, it's like almost the history of it, you just get swept up in like the moment. It's one of the most iconic.
I will say I don't think it's as good as playoff hockey. I don't know that anything competes with playoff hockey now.
But playoff baseball is pretty dang good. you you can get the play you know the player's stories a little bit more and not to say that hockey doesn't do a great job of that but you just don't see you know hockey players wanting to put themselves out there for everybody to get to know them it just is what it is it's just not kind of the culture of the of the league i don't think yeah i think that's probably fair i think it's yeah i do think that's part of the culture part of it's you know it's just not as popular of a sport as as baseball yeah they're wearing you know the helmets and stuff so you see them ah you have the open face mask most of them yeah i think you're right i think a lot of it does come down to the hockey culture i just feel like i'm more invested in every single player like if uh if the yankees play uh the dodgers you know a little new york versus the old brooklyn dodgers you're right it's it's a sport that's ruled by the by the the star power it's a star power driven league you put a guy like shohei otani yeah in new york dude and and you like i want to see how he reacts to you know a hostile environment like that i think that's exciting for me to see as a player.
So every single time I see him up at bat, I'm going to be glued into every single pitch. It's hard to find that in any other sport, let alone in the playoffs.
I think it's also we just grew up in the 90s with the Indians. We just loved baseball so much because they were so good.
How many series or playoff games did we go to I know you went to the one world series game you did I only went to the all-star that's right I went to the all-star you went to the world series I remember going to just taking the rapid downtown and going to games for like a five dollar ten dollar ticket or if a friend had an extra for me, we would all just jump on the rapid and go downtown. Yeah.
Mom and dad didn't have many tickets bought. We usually were.
It was either through mom's work or we were tag alongs with somebody else. The sailors had season tickets that they would split up with a couple of other people.
So every once in a while I'd go with Brandon. We did go to the one playoff game together because mom always tells the story about how we fell asleep in like the fourth inning or something like that.
And we were like fast asleep because it was a late game. No way.
I got to text mom right now. No, I just, there's no way I ever have fell asleep at a, at a tribe game.
Mom tells this story. I don't think we were kids.
We were asleep. We were, we were like very young.
We were both asleep. I promise you.
Maybe, maybe if we went to the game and i really didn't know what was going on but every game that i went to i was i was the biggest like fiend for sports ever if i ever went to a ball game or a like a basketball game or anything like that like i was so glued travis nobody is nobody is attacking your fan crazy if you think that i was asleep during one of these games. It doesn't matter how big of a fan you are.
I used to literally beg mom and dad to buy the $20 roster book so that I could actually keep score of the game, which means I'm watching every single pitch. Nobody is at all saying that you weren't a big fan.
I think she's just saying that you fell asleep. I was paying attention every single day.
Mom will text me back, hopefully, if the hurricane didn't ruin her phone. I think that you...
The thing is, my kids, Bluey is like crack to them. They won't be glued to Bluey.
But they're still children. And eventually, that brain is going to shut it down.
And they're just going going to fall asleep i don't know what to tell you i never fell asleep at a game all right i'll text ed too that was there but yeah shout out to my uh shout out to my guys that i actually know on the yanks rizzo big judge um if i'm missing somebody i'm an idiot but those guys are a hall of fame just people man just all like they're some of my favorite guys to be around when I do get a chance to hang out with them.

Saw some Saturday Night Live two years ago, I believe, with them.

And it's just cool seeing them chase it, chase the ring,

even though I want my guards to find a way to get them, man.

Come on, baby.

Come on, baby.

This is a tough place to play, though, brother.

I text dad.

Did Travis and I ever fall asleep at an Indians game? He said, no, I did. I mean, dad, yeah, he's like us.
That's where we get our sleeping from. He could fall asleep at a fucking rock concert.
It does not matter. We had some Cleveland sports that we were getting into.
You went to the guards game, and I saw a Browns game. Yeah.
Jason was tailgating. How about it? Who knew Jason tailgating? It was the second weekend were getting into you went to the guards game and i saw a browns game yeah jason was tailgating how about it who knew jason tailgating it was the second weekend in row you got to do some tailgating out there in a philly and uh well tailgating in general i guess philly uh there's the first time in like two weeks you actually hit two different tailgates let's start with the eagles game first how was your second time tailgating at the link was it was a you know a little bit more genuine this time knowing you didn't have all the uh did I guess you still had cameras following you there were cameras following yeah this one the first one was more like a pre planned deal this one was kind of like just show up and like try and experience it but it turned into chaos yeah um it was a blast man it was the car maybe yeah baby shout out to Harold Jersey own, maybe? Yeah, baby.
Shout out to Harold. Are you a Jersey guy now? I am, especially the throwbacks.
Dude, I got my guy. We're going to talk about the Bills-Jets game in a second.
I got a great Jersey from that one, but it was awesome. Rocking Harold Carmichael.
Dude, Harold used to be the director of player development. That was his role at the Eagles when I first got here.
So got to spend a lot of time with him. He was instrumental in helping a lot of young players and the rookies out, getting acclimated, new people to the city.
Just an awesome personality. So it was really cool to wear his jersey.
And it was awesome to go tailgate. I mean, listen, got to hold up a baby.
You see this picture right here? Yeah. Like, you know.

No way.

That's actually the words.

That's not it.

I think those are the words. I also witnessed somebody get engaged in front of me that was not planned at least on my behalf that came out of nowhere oh shit brian dawkins got married brian dawkins proposed to this one lovely lady and uh were there any um philadelphia uh delicacies that you uh got into like uh alligator yeah alligator was not on the menu this week, but there were cheesesteaks.
Everybody's got sausage. One of the guys had this jerk chicken set up on this charcoal, like tailgate.
It was probably a grill specifically for tailgate. I had never seen it, though.
It was dope. Just sitting on the ground.
Let me tell you, these chicken thighs, pretty damn good. my first time i had a i had jerk uh beef jerk beef i've never heard of jerk beef who's doing jerk beef i never mind i don't even know if it was that it was a jerk pasta it was a jerk pasta with beef in it i mean you can do jerk anything probably it's just the jerk seasoning yeah i've just never had i've only ever had jerk chicken maybe pork and lastly there was an insane video going around of you chugging a beer yeah the focus wasn't as much on you as it was on the cameraman next to you and this is why you shouldn't go on top of trailers kids i will say this woman was up there already and uh she offered to go up there again i was like yeah i'm not going to turn down the opportunity to go up on a trailer i've never been on top of a trailer almost felt like you know what it reminded me of uh i felt like i was in tremors i felt like i was like one of the guys in tremors up on the bus you remember that scene the uh the worm things that would go through the desert yeah and they would get up on top of vehicles and stuff so they weren't touching the ground and then would start popping the tires yeah i don't know i got an insane flashback the moment i got up there uh my guy um i don't know how he got up there this ladder was like i was nervous going up myself like very old like did not look like it was adhered very well and somehow this guy climbed up there camera.
I mean, it was impressive that he's up there to begin with. Yeah.
Didn't know there was a skylight there. Stepped, broke right through the window in the roof.
Luckily, he's good. He's okay.
Camera fell down. I thought it was done.
Donezo. Done.
Donezo. He ran down there fast, picked it up, started recording.
Worked perfectly fine. I don't know how't know how what that's how durable those things are i don't think that they're supposed they are but somehow that thing must have felt just right it was insane that's that's like a 10 12 foot drop right there yeah that's like a 200 000 piece of equipment right there that camera i would assume that thing is expensive were you like shooting a doc was that your camera Was that your guy they're helping with another thing we're doing with espn that i think we're waiting to kind of unleash that nice they were there shooting with that they're really with nfl films is who they're with but they uh camera dropped kind of i thought it was gone for sure luckily i knew he was all right with the way he got up and then um he just kept up and kept recording.
He's a trooper. Electric.
This is why you chug, people. Good things happen when you chug.
You get good content. Well, now I'm two for two now at Eagles tailgates.
My man Dunphy almost tore his ACL at the last one. Dunphy did, yeah.
And luckily he's okay. Well, doesn't need surgery.
And now this, I might, I mean, I don't know. Maybe I'm cursed maybe i'm cursed yeah if you see jason chugging don't move yeah so this was awesome it was a fun time fun event being out there with the eagles fans a little weird seeing browns fans and i i was ribbing them but obviously being from cleveland i still love the browns in particular there's this one tent dudes were awesome St.
Ignatius. Really happy to be there.
So it was cool seeing some Brownies in attendance. Some fellow Believelanders.
This is a big game. It was a big game.
Week six, it's not divisional, but both of the teams needed to win bad. Like Cleveland is in a bad spot right now.
And, I mean, honestly, if we're being real honest, they're a bad football a bad football team i mean it was i came away watching that game thinking cleveland's worse than anything else like that offense just cannot get it figured out right now i think it was uh it was a rough go around for both teams because uh we heard some sirianni chance but we'll get to that later let's uh let's talk a little bit of monday night football countdown little monday night countdownPN. Send you to the Bills-Jets game in the Meadowlands,

and you were reunited with your people, Bills Mafia.

Dude.

You started things off once again drinking out of a bowling ball.

Got that one back in you.

You like that one so much.

Except this time, we actually know what was in it.

Yeah, it was Gatorade. If Pinto Round offers me a shot out of a bowling ball i'm not going to turn down pinto round i'm not doing it why why blue gatorade because i'm not supposed to drink when i'm on monday night countdown it's one of the caveats of working for espn they don't like you to be seen drinking alcohol or even drinking alcohol before they put you on live television that's fair unless you're pat mcfee then you get want.
When you're the greatest, you get different. Yeah, you get treated differently.
It is what it is. Well, yeah, Pat's a man.
So what I'm wearing right there is a hat from the Water Buffalo Club, 716. And they have a Grand Poobah.
What the? The Grand Poobah? And that's what the Fred Flintstone outfit is. And they anointed me that, which is basically I'm king of the tailgate for the day.
I'm king of Bill's Mafia. Which felt a little weird getting while I wore this jersey in honor of a legendary defensive lineman who recently, unfortunately, passed away this week.
Abdul Salam. That's right.
The last member of the New York SAC exchange, not in the ring of honor for the New York Jets, but known as the soldier of peace. But yeah, we were having a lot of fun out there in the tailgate.
Bill's Mafia, it doesn't matter where they're at. They're having fun.
Fellow Midwesterners, obviously, there's a kinship. Buffalo's Midwest? With anybody that...
Well that resides along. It's New York.
There's no way. You're right.
If you're on the lake, all those cities, just good people. They think the same.
They all just want to have fun. And it's a great time being out there with the Buffalo Bills Mafia.
The Jets fans are awesome, too. Jets fans were fun when I watched you last year playing the Jets.
The jets the bills mafia is more of a production like they have a lot more going on there's like people that travel and obviously there's a way game for them so those fans have like their their their their like rituals that they're going to with everything yeah whereas like the jets fans i was like oh yeah it used to be a firefight i'd not just go tailgate to the games like it was you know a lot of that kind of appreciate it too for sure got a hard hat dude this is one of the baddest like i gotta say dude this is pretty cool you're like you're like getting i'm just like using it to get knickknacks yeah this is sweet i mean hook me up oh you're gonna be a hoarder before you know it people are gonna be giving you everything that's good shit right there and then you uh you had a wardrobe change after you went tailgating though jason you actually uh you actually put on a fucking suit suit and tie how about it i think the suit's nice i think that that's one there's a reason why people have worn suits for a long time so getting up there with a tie this one obviously fit color scheme wise with the game my man ryan clark was in the jets suit colors this one i had this color already in my uh closet electric blue and i'm like man i don't know when i'm ever gonna wear this like very blue blue like i don't know when that's gonna happen i was like you know what i think this might be the perfect week new york jets i could see i could see you playing for the bills I would have fit in really well. Yeah.
I mean, Ryan Fitzpatrick, anybody with a beard is going to fit in well with the beard, with the Bills, right? Yeah, man. You fucking snapping it to Josh Allen would have been fucking dangerous.
God damn it. Snapping it to Ryan Fitzpatrick.
Ooh, Fitzmagic? All right. Bills is a sound that appreciates their offensive line too.
Much like Cleveland, much like Philadelphia. The Bills, like my man Eric Wood, he's been up there.
He calls the games for Bills radio and stuff like that still. He would, yeah.
It's a town that definitely appreciates the big guys up front. So it's an offensive line haven town.
I get it. Well, where did buffalo uh buffalo wing necklace uh so teresa was the one giving out the grand pooba attire and there was another woman i don't remember her name but she had the uh buffalo wing necklace for me which is my kind of jewelry i've got a few of those things doing hot ones once or twice and that does does it for Out of the House.
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Let's move on to some football. Yeah, I had a bye this week, so we have no updates for you for chiefs football the eagles did though play and it was a win the eagles got a dub eagles 20 brown 16 like we were talking about earlier jason was out there tailgating before the game um initial thoughts though on the actual game obviously always good when you win some good takeaways from the game.
Defense played a lot better. No turnovers for the offense in general.
Still, though, I came away from the game again. We kind of mentioned this earlier, thinking more about, you know, Cleveland probably is a struggling team right now than I did thinking that the Eagles really controlled the game.
So I don't think it was, like, an impressive performance by either team. But that being said, wins a win, baby.
I'm taking that all day. All day, every day.
They improved in some areas that they've been struggling. The defense played so much better.
And I think offensively, it was sporadic. It felt a little bit disconnected, but at times good.
And then obviously, whenever you got A.J. Brown back and healthy, it's not a bad thing.
Don't forget Skinny Batman. You had both A.J.
and Skinny Batman, Smitty back in the offense, but you guys still haven't scored in the first quarter yet through five games. Zero points in the first quarter of every single game they played so far.
Yeah, I think they were driving towards the end of that first quarter, so it almost happened, but I think, yeah, it hasn't been a good start to games. And as you know a lot of starts to games come down to like what you have planned coming in and what you think you're going to see and i think the eagles you know i don't want to speak for this this year because i don't know as much whether that's happening this year but jalen has always been a guy that's been schemed differently because he's a different quarterback right we tend to run different plays and different offensive uh than a lot of other teams do.
So I don't know if it's like they're not getting quite what they expect. I think some of it is just bad execution.
Like I've definitely seen drops and slow starts from the players. So I think a lot of it is just accountability on both sides, right? Players have to be accountable to getting off to a faster start and being locked in to start the game.
And then I think also offensively, you know, getting to stuff that you feel like is maybe more of your bread and butter. Does that make sense? Like sometimes I think the early plays end up being game plan specific plays.
Maybe start with plays that are more just generic part of your offense. Maybe.
I don't know. I'm kind of grasping the straws it feels like the

eagles are starting to get a little frustrated with it uh at least the eagles players uh lane johnson hit us with the all-time quote we're a constipated offense that's what it bleeping feels like yeah it's accurate a constipated offense i mean that shit's in there man yeah it's in there The shit's in there.

Just got to get that shit out.

It's a legendary quote.

Got to get that X-Lax going.

Yeah.

You already know i think it's a great definition and you know go for go figure lane just can pull that out of his ass uh the constipated offense great line and that's what it's exactly what it feels like it just feels kind of disconnected out of rhythm feels like it's like they have the players. They make spot plays here and there, but it doesn't feel like that full onslaught of plays that go off one another that you're typically seeing.
It's more like guys making plays, like AJ going up there and catching a 50-50 ball, which I don't know if there are any 50-50 balls with AJ Brown.. Brown.
Obviously, the run game struggled a little bit, which, you know,

Cleveland's got some horses up front.

They got good players.

So shout out to them for showing up and my man Jim Schwartz

for dialing up a game plan.

They had some plays that were there.

They did.

They just, watching it back, they had some counters.

They had some things drawn up where it's like, man,

if that just happens, that thing's creased.

There was an early run where, like, Saquon runs into Landon Landon Dickerson, and Landon Dickerson makes the tackle, right? And it's like he's on the single safety. That's at least a 10-yarder.
He breaks one tackle, explosive run. Who knows how big it is, yeah.
There's plays to be had. Some of it comes down to executing.
Some of it just feels like I think that they're trying to figure things out right now because they've struggled a little bit in recent weeks, especially missing A.J. and Devontae, that I think will continue to get better.
Obviously, having those guys out there this week helped. Another week of figuring themselves out.
Hopefully, this offense keeps going, starts to find some rhythm and is a little bit less constipated. Yeah, more explosive.
Well, A.J. Brown finished with six receptions for 116 yards and a touchdown jaylen connected with to aj for the first td of the game a 22 yarder um he also caught an electric game ceiling reception a 40 yard pass with two minutes left to play it sounds like uh cleveland might have went cover zero and they just said fuck it we're putting it up what do you think of this uh this play call here late in the game and also did Wyatt uh notice his pink shoes are back I was not watching with Wyatt but she probably did it was not cover zero it was just straight up cover one with the safeties up and uh or man hole hole is what we call it double hole double kind of picking crossers and just making the quarterback throw over top, which he did.
He did beautifully. Great pitching catch by two guys that know how to do it the best in the league.
Listen, it's A.J. Brown.
He's going to come down with these catches like nine times out of ten. He's a beast.
He's a swole Batman. I do think back to the slow starts and maybe game plan specific plays, it felt like a good way to buck that sometimes is utilizing tempo.
And I think that they do it sometimes, but it feels like Jalen, when they go into these two minute situations, he goes more into like automatic mode. I wouldn't be opposed to them maybe mixing some tempo early in the game, like here and there to, you know, spark some momentum.
And I think that it's worked in the past with him in particular. And I think as an offense, I always liked when you're going tempo, you have to call more generic stuff that goes off of one another.
It's like, Hey, we know we like this versus this. We know like this versus this.
And it kind of, you know, because of the tempo nature of it, you can't do all these crazy things. Now I like the Kellan's brought more motions and more interesting things.
We still need to do that. But maybe sometimes early on, just to get in the rhythm, sometimes utilizing that helps.
So maybe they do that. I don't know.
It's probably the coach's coach, though. Yeah, the coach is no best.
And they'll keep figuring it out. Sirianni knows what he's doing over there.
Devontae Smith also had a big day, finished with three catches for 64 yards.

It's good to see that dynamic duo in the wide receiver group over there

starting to get back on track.

But Nick Sirianni, big things coming out of this game

that we got to talk about.

Sirianni appears to be chirping back at the Eagles.

And I'm not sure if he was necessarily chirping back

or if it was a confrontation or if he was just, you know, trying to get fired up with him. We don't know what was actually said.
At least I don't think so. The fans who Nick Sirianni was yelling at after the Eagles win posted his side of the story context on Reddit.
Nice. He's a Reddit guy.
I began to yell in quotes uh if your start running back gets you five yards on the on first down you give it to him again run run the ball run the ball and i had some more to say but you get the point yeah it sounds like the eagles fans coaching in the uh and that's what they do they let the coach know what should do. I mean, it's, it's fans.
The Nick Sirianni run the ball stuff. You know, Nick turned around.
Obviously everybody saw this gesture for him to calm down and said something to the effect. We will.
Don't worry. I'm on it.
Or actually they didn't see that. So Nick turned around beforehand, gesture to him to calm down, said something to the effect that we will.
Don't worry about it. Fast forward to the end of the game.
Came over to us and said, hey, I told you we'd run it. I told you.
Admittedly paraphrasing, I had indulged quite a bit. The point is, it was not unwarranted, nor did I see it as aggressive.
I don't know. There's no way for us to verify if this fan was indeed the fan that Nick was yelling at.
This is a Reddit post, which is far from a verified source. But it is intriguing because I think that would lead you to believe that this may not be as big of a deal as everybody's saying it is, and it probably isn't regardless.
I think Nick and his presser announced, you know, we thrive off of the crowd, they cheer for us, and the team had been trying to get him back to being the, like, emotional leader that he is. And obviously, he commented on Monday, you know, I was trying to bring the energy, enthusiasm, all that.
I'm sorry, disappointed in the way I directed it at the end of the game. My energy should be all in on coaching, motivating, celebrating our guys.
So he knows that, listen, it's a lose-lose operation when you start going back and forth with fans. It's tough.
It's never going to be seen right. It only empowers people to talk more trash because they know they're getting to you.
We talked about this with Joey Bosa. Joey Bosa's at the link.
Fish on. Fish on.
We got him. Like, you can't do it.
It's just not going to help. But, and people, I've seen this because I said this on Monday night.
Like, people are like, oh, you're defending Nick. I'm not defending him.
I think this is, he shouldn't be doing this. Like, I don't think that that's right.
But at the same time, I will defend him. And like, he needs to be emotional.
He needs to be passionate. That's when he is a better coach.
And he knows that. And the team knows knows that and i think that directing it in the right way is what we want to see and i think that for the majority of the game that's what you saw you saw nick fired up the team needed that they needed to win this game he knows what's on the line and it's getting the sense of urgency is high right now in philadelphia so yeah not good to be directing it in this way nick knows that that's clear hopefully he can continue to bring the passion and the energy in more productive ways that won't have a bunch of people on tv shouting about stuff yeah that'd be great well i feel like you uh you just gave us your final thoughts so that's about it you know i think that it was still an underperformance by the Eagles.
They still got a lot to work on. But the good thing is, is week four.
Sorry. The good thing is, is week six.
Is that right? Week seven. Week seven, game six.
Week seven. God damn, this thing is flying by.
Yeah, it is. Wow.
Yeah, and the Eagles are going to take the subway over to New York or New Jersey, I should say. We got the Giants.
The Giants haven't been looking that bad. Saquon's returned to the Meadowlands baby haven't been looking great on offense but their defense is looking dang good so it'll be a fun game we did have one uh voice of reason maybe an unlikely voice of reason from our guy Dumphy uh Eagles are literally a wide open two yard Saquon Barkley catch away from being four and one while missing A.J.
Brown for three weeks.

And the lone loss being when A.J. Brown, Smitty and Lane Johnson were all out.

It's a reasonable take, Dunphy.

God damn, Dunphy.

That's a good fucking take.

Level headed Philly fanatic tattoo around your belly button take right there.

You don't always get that out of those kind of Philly fans.hards sometimes. Those diehards sometimes just pour it on them.
Week six recap. Not the best week for football.
Last week, great week for football. So the offenses reinvigorate around the league.
This week, got back to a little bit of sloppiness. The big news break that we have following the week is Devontae Adams is now a Jet.
Jets coming off of their lost Monday Night Football to the Bills. Short-lived amount of agony.
Jets Jake, I mean, jumping for joy. This should expand the offense.
Obviously, Garrett Wilson, Lazard. It's going to add another dynamic.
Every time, any time any offense or any time any Hall of Fame quarterback

gets this kind of receiver or gets his legendary receiver

that he has been always on the same page with, gets him back, yeah.

No, this offense is going to be a lot better.

It just is what it is.

Yeah, absolutely.

The offense looked reinvigorated, too, with Todd Downing calling plays yesterday it just felt like it was more insane man yeah they were moving the ball man they were handing it off back to the fan that nick got into it run the ball coach run the ball that's a good point other news cowboys home losing streak now at three they've lost three in a row they didn't lose a single regular season home game last year I home losing streak now at three. They've lost three in a row.
They didn't lose a single regular season home game last year, I don't think. That's crazy.
They've lost three this season after getting blown out. It wasn't just a loss this week either, man.
It was ugly. On Jerry Jones' birthday.
Happy birthday, Jerry. Almost got a 50-burger from the Detroit Lions.
Man, they were fucking around. I'm not going to lie.
They were throwing hook and laterals to offensive linemen. They were throwing offensive linemen outside the numbers, acting like they were running routes.
Receiver screen? Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Dan Skipper, eligible. Yeah.
It was interesting, but I don't think anybody can really point a finger on what exactly is wrong with the Cowboys. It just doesn't look like they're playing very well together.

Yeah.

I mean, they've struggled to stop the run all year round.

And I just think the games that the defense has really struggled has been like the Ravens, Detroit, shocker.

Both those teams really good.

Run the fuck out of the ball, yeah.

Mr. Montgomery.

Right at you.

They've gotten – it felt like they were getting better.

And, you know, Detroit is just so good at it, and they've been asserting their will all season long. And then Jared Goff hits it behind you.
I mean, it's Ben Johnson, the guys that they have in Detroit. It's an impressive, impressive unit on their offensive side of the ball and defensive.
But obviously we saw Aiden Hutchinson go down with a very graphic injury, almost like an MMA style.

Hopefully he's all right.

He'll get back eventually when he gets healthy. Great player.

That shit sucks, man.

It sucks for the game of football, man,

and obviously it sucks for him and his family, man.

Nobody likes to see an injury, let alone one like that,

and hopefully he gets right back to full strength as fast as possible

knowing how amazing of a player he is.

But shout out to the Hutchinson fan, man.

Hopefully Dallas can get back to full strength. Micah Parsons, they need some of their guys back.
It'll be interesting to see how the NFC shakes out. Washington's been doing a hell of a job.
I know they lost this week to the monster that's over there in Baltimore. But, you know, they've been trending good.

It's wide open right now in the NFC East.

Other results from across the league.

Texans 41, Patriots 21.

Texans come out on top.

Texans have started.

They've been winning games.

It honestly reminds me a little bit of you guys where they just find a way to get it done at the end of games

with C.J. Stroud and company.

Yeah, especially with Drake May getting his debut with the Patriots, man uh putting up 21 points not bad day uh for a debut yeah packers cardinals packers run away with that one the the most interesting game to me though is that ravens commanders game i really wanted to see how the young guy handled the pressure of uh of going up against a ravens defense because they they fly around they're smart they're well coached they justed. They always have a knack for getting around the football.
And they didn't make it easy on the young guy, man. Well, he played all right.
I thought actually Jaden played well. The thing that they really struggled, they've been great at running the ball all season long.
The Ravens took that away. And it made it like, hey, you're going to have to beat us.
And he still played well. Him and Terry McLaurin, they're building a hell of a connection.

McLaurin had a couple catches where I'm like, how the fuck did this dude just catch this ball?

It was unbelievable.

It's like he pulls out one of those every fucking game now.

Well, the Bucs put up a 50-burger on the Saints, man.

Yes, they did.

Bucs offense, man, that's another one.

When they're running the fucking football, it is is gonna make baker's day so much easier if he can just get some good play action uh and really get everybody to to declare what they're doing here and get our guy mike evans in a fucking one-on-one situation i mean that's uh dude you go look at their offense quietly i mean besides maybe the denver game i think quietly their offense has been killing people explosive yeah yeah they are making plays they are looking real good there's a weird game too they jumped out to like a three score lead almost then they the saints came back and took the lead and then all of a sudden it was like a runaway show for the bucks very weird yeah well steelers 32 raiders 13 and the steelers said no that's not good enough justin fields we're gonna go ahead and go with russell wilson i don't understand i thought the steelers were playing pretty good with justin fields but i guess they uh they got something else hidden in their back pocket thinking that russell's uh gonna give them more offense they got it done versus the raiders that That's all that matters, right? Yeah. They're winning football games.
Yeah. Any other more interesting games, I guess? Bears over Jacksonville in London.
Caleb Williams, second consecutive week where you can see the young fella's starting to build some chemistry. He's looking better.
Joe Flacco wins another one for the Colts. 49ers getting back to you know maybe a little bit of what they have been seahawks have struggled a little bit ever since the lions game they're they're another one dealing with some injuries yeah the lions play so physical there's some crazy stat i don't know what it is off the top of my head of like teams after they play the lions that their win percentage is way down

because of how physical that game is.

Fucking biting kneecaps, man.

Fighting Dan Campbells.

Fuck.

Before we get to our guest, Pat McAfee,

let's answer a couple of your no-dumb questions

because there's no such thing as dumb questions.

Just dumb-ass people.

That's right.

No-dumb questions is brought to you by Mint mint mobile the smart answer to saving money on premium wireless yes sir deb 13m now that the nhl season has started which hockey players past or present do you think could play in the nfl and at what position eric lindros could play in the nfl yeah he was pretty confident about that. You think he's a tight end? Dude, so he came to the golf outing we had for B-Philly this year.
Yeah, I remember you telling him. He's massive, man.
Massive dude, yeah. Like, he could have put on weight easily and played O-line.
He definitely could have played tight end. Yeah, I'm thinking he was a tight end.
I think that that's probably the most accurate. For what his stature was during a player.
Rocking jersey number 88. Come on, he's's a tight end.
There we go. Little Dallas Goddard.
Okay. 88.
Who else? I figured Yager with his freaking mullet would have been awesome to watch out there on a football field. That would have been awesome to see.
I don't know what position he's playing, but I'm with you. You think Claude Giroux could have found his way as a wide receiver or something? I don't know.
Maybe. I mean, he's feisty.
Thatb but he used to come in and ask to arm wrestle i don't know uh db's tough maybe safety maybe safety he used to come in and ask to arm wrestle anybody like he's just one of them type of guys so mentality wise yes mentality wise absolutely could play in the nfl physically gonna have to see that what about some of the bruisers from the league what's his name playing for the fucking leaves who uh he uh who'd he play for last year um i always think of zidane ocharo ocharo the 611 defender from boston he could play yeah i mean what position would he play i think he'd be a dn got the reach he's got some like wiggle to him he can put some weight on play some offensive tackle there you go that's I mean, what position would he play? I think he'd be a DN. He's got that reach.
He's got some wiggle to him. He can put some weight on him, play some offensive tackle.
There you go. That's what a defenseman.
Just keep the guy in front of you. He's got that skill.
You think a guy like McDavid, who's the fastest thing on fucking ice, can play receiver or running back? He weaves like a running back when he's on the ice. He does.
He's got the elusiveness, but it's hard. And he's got the vision for running back.
Yeah. It's just hard to gauge because skating is so – I've seen guys that skate incredibly well, and then you see them run on a field, and it's just not the same.
Not that they're unathletic, but it's like it's a different – it's an entirely different muscle group that you're activating ice skating than you are when you're actually running. But the elusiveness is there.
The quickness is – the twitch is there. Maybe.
Past or present. Is Wayne Gretzky finding his way on the NFL football field? I don't think so.
As much as I love Wayne. No, you don't think Wayne's in there? I mean, he's – we talk about this later with Pat.
Greatness is greatness. So probably would figure it out.
But he never struck me as like having speed or like you ever seen him race you have you seen this they did like crossover like uh who what was it it was him and like three other uh professional athletes i think uh you're right and they did 100 meter dash and he fucking smoked everybody he smoked some you're right he was rolling you know what. You know what? He was rolling.
Oh, shit. There we go, intern Brandon.
Who is it? Who else is up there? I forget. I don't, you know.
It has at the top. Sugar Ray Leonard.
Sugar Ray was one of them. Yep.
Oh, Pele. Pele.
Yeah. I'm not as impressed with Bjorn Borg losing, but beating Pele, that's something.
Dude, he's not just beating them. He's crushing them.
He's fucking rolling on them. You know he was a two-sport athlete.
A pretty great baseball player. He got drafted by the Expos, yeah.
You know what? I'm going to say he could have done it. Dude, I'm right there.
I mean, the form is not great. Let's be honest.
He runs like fucking... Is that Sugar Ray switching lanes? Did Sugar Ray just switch lanes? He's like trying to catch some wind.
He's trying to drift on wind. He's trying to get some drift action? All right, now it's time to bring on our guest.
Jason, you want to do the honors? From Plum, Pennsylvania. He was a national putt, pass, and kick champion by the time he was a sophomore in high school.
The seventh-round pick out of West Virginia. First-team All-Pro, first-team Pro Bowler.
He made the PFWA All-Rookie Team and was first-team All-American. He's a first-team Yenzer all the way.
You've seen him on College Game Day, WrestleMania, and, of course, the host of the Pat McAfee Show, Mr. Pat McAfee! Hell yeah, brother.
Man, you got me jacked up. What an honor it is to be here.
Thank you for all those kind things and for doing your research. I've lived an absurd life, and obviously this conversation is a piece of that.
You two are running the world right now. So for letting me be a part of New Heights, which I've told you I've been a massive fan of since the beginning of New Heights, this is an honor, a dream.
Thank you for the intro, and thank you for the time. Although, Jason, you were saying some terrible stuff about, you know, like position groups.
We're joking here. We're joking here.
We're joking here. You know, we're having fun.
It's a podcast. Don't shy away.
The stats people. Don't shy away now, Jason.
Yeah, you know, the stats people. You came out.
I mean, I was joking. We're just having fun here.
We're having fun here. The kickers, you had a well-thought-out take, you said, for years I've been thinking about.
That's what you said. For years I've been thinking about.
We've been talking about this. You've been laying been laying at night thinking like i need to get this in the show somehow how do i work this in hey listen you're the greatest of all time the greatest center of all time one of the toughest humans ever played football and obviously your resume is what it is on the football field so you're allowed to say whatever the hell you want travis if you want to hop into that whole train you can as well it's the people that have never played football that decide to dunk on like kickers and punters and stuff like that i'm like you need to relax this is why you did the uh the college game day you got you're starting to bring the fans out of here for talking shit that's right jason do you think you could fucking kick a field goal bingo you know what i don't know if my hips got me in it we might have to find this out get your tims okay get your untied tim get your tims it's yeah the old boot style just straight on oh yeah who was the square toe we got lu groza used to do square toe from uh the brownies is that what's the garbage picking field goal kicking uh you remember that joey uh oh my gosh yeah absolutely yeah yeah that could be the case but my problem my issue is whenever people that have never played football before bury kickers and punters and act like it's an easy thing it is not an easy thing like if you get out there and you play catch you could probably play catch a little bit you know you probably could if you want to get out there and do maybe hit something or say you probably do that you try to kick something most people are going to suck at it which is why the college game day thing happened for kicking is easy although it's getting expensive boys last two weeks these guys have made kicks and it's like 200 000 bucks to these guys jesus i mean it's a real deal they're starting to practice yeah i think i'm trying to get hustled too i think i'm starting to get there's a chance but jason i think i think you should maybe be on the side of kickers because i think it's good for the sport.
No, I am. Listen, I am.
When I was with Connor, this is like in the middle of training camp. And you're in a one-on-one situation.
You get your ass kicked, and then you look over, and the kickers are like fucking playing a game. They're like kicking the ball.
Let's see how far they can kick it into a ring or something. You're like, God damn it.
fuck these guys. Yeah, me and Vinny are taking a knee with the helmet on the side.
It's really from a place of jealousy. It's a place of jealousy is what it is.
Hey, you got to put your face in there a little bit more, Jason. Okay? I think you got really.
Maybe get a little lower with your pads. I heard that's a good thing.
Exactly. So I can understand your feeling about it all, but I think it is.
It's good for the game for the game like um you know on this podcast and i assume you hear it a lot travis you and taylor's relationship is great for the sport like it is getting introduced to so many people and you are appreciate it have been the perfect representation for our sport too i think personally genuinely i think that i think there's no other human that could do what you're doing right now and how you're doing it is awesome.

And you need to know that all of us are incredibly fucking proud

of the way you're representing all of us, dude.

I'm just going to keep winning.

As soon as we lose a game, I mean, it's going to fucking rain down, baby.

Yeah.

I'm just going to keep winning.

She's going to keep winning, staying on top.

Yeah, but also smiling at the Guardians games, you know.

Yeah, come on.

I was laughing around a little bit.

The guards, baby, we were right there, man.

We're going to go. yeah but also smiling at the guardians games you know yeah come on i was laughing around a little bit the guards baby we were right there man we were right there you know i think we were just one hit away from just taking that fucking stadium by storm the box bombers were gonna they were out there boo boo making it it was a hostile environment out there i was having a good time okay well i'm happy you enjoyed it but your relationship is exposing the sport to a lot of people i think a lot of people are falling in love with it globally worldwide the gateway for a lot of people to football is going to be the kicking positions you know like in europe the kickers and but there's gonna be kickers and punters coming out of europe i think over the next 15 20 years there has to be right yeah yeah in australia and everything so i think it's good for the sport to have kicking and punting though.
I understand why centers and people that have like actual physical, you know, positions with actual ramifications could feel that way. But I genuinely enjoy the fact that it, it's a sport for everybody.
That's like, I think it's going to help. I think it's going to help go.
Well, I think, I think you, you brought a new mentality to the, to the specialists. Cause you were out there throwing your fucking weight around.
Come on, Travis. You were out there fucking taking some heads off.
Come on, Travis. We got that clip from the hit versus the Broncos in 2013.
You got selected for a drug test after that, correct? The league saw that, and they freaking said, no, no, no, this can't be all natural punters don't do that to guys what is what travis just said right there yeah i think roger goodell was watching that saying that guy's got to be on something okay let's go test him immediately there's a few of those days you know like you do something good and you don't get drug tested the next day if you're like a kicker and punter it's almost like a slap in the face like whoa you didn't think it was that impressive okay i just hit a 60 yard field You field goal you think i'm not all right vinatieri's like 45 years old hitting like a 58 yarder and they're not drug testing him the next day it's like okay okay there you know so it was like a badge of honor but yeah i'll get lucky every once in a while hit somebody i'll be sore though for like three four days that's why what you guys do i uh i do not understand i don't know how your guys bodies hold up like trav right now still like you take those shots and you're blocking more i don't know how your body isn't sore forever and jason whenever that tush push happened you were getting folded like an accordion every single time every time every single time we're hyping it up we're like tush push every word, every word. Let's go.
Keep it coming. AQ's like, yup.
Make them suffer. Make them suffer.
Yeah, I can never do that. That's why you guys are so much tougher.
But it's a great sport. Genuinely great sport.
How about it? God, it's awesome. The fact that it's for everybody, you hit the nail on the head.
I'm talking shit. I deserve all this.
And maybe I can. Can I stop by a game day set and see if I can make one of these? We're in Texasas this weekend brother you want to stop anytime you want to come by we will make happen let me see what the schedule looks like maybe not this weekend maybe not this weekend but i think we can make something happen well i know so we should promote that it's happening you know so we can get a little bit more pressure there we go that works that works yeah make it like a game yeah yeah i i suck under pressure i can't even snap the ball to the quarterback you who had to go through this was big Rob Gronkowski.
Dude. Kick of the year for the Super Bowl, right? I forget who he was.
Sandals. They did that live.
That's what it was, yeah. Two years in a row, right? He was practicing.
That's even worse. I'm not practicing, so there's zero expectations.
It was windy. It was windy, you know.
Speaking of the wind, that Monday night game, they hit the uprights three times or twice? I think it was four misses, I think, all in total. There were some bad ones.
So, like, Tyler Bass missed that first one real bad left when Joe Buck actually mentioned it. I think he was trying to hit, like, a little bit of a liner to kind of cut through it.
Yeah, got through it. So he tried to hit it a little fat and then he ended up hitting it too fat, so then you pull that thing, it looks nasty.
But wind is a problem. Wind is always going to be the worst problem.
When you go out on the field and you feel that wind, what are you thinking? I'm hoping it's at my back when I'm out there. How does that work? Does it affect how you're doing it? Obviously punting, but yeah.
Me definitely, yeah yeah i'm not mentally tough enough for it i like to see the ball fly you know like there was guys in practice that loaded to use like brand new balls like we want practice to be hard so that in the game it's easier it's like no i need to see these balls flying far pretty yeah yeah give me the juiciest ball we got and i want to go downwind i want I want to be feeling real good going into the game. Real good.
But you wake up game day morning, and you open the blinds or whatever, and then you try to find a flag on top of a building. And if that son of a bitch was at attention, you knew it was going to be a long day.
And I was immediately bummed out. In Indianapolis, we have like a dome.
Oh, yeah. But we opened a window and a roof, so it shielded me a little bit.
I was very lucky was very lucky for that but yeah kickers and punters are trying to find out what the wind is immediately upon waking up and it's certainly a mind and a mood changer how about it man you did both at West Virginia we're gonna get to your West Virginia career in just a little bit but you did both in college which one was harder which one do you enjoy more kicking or punting so I enjoyed pun lot more. I had a strong leg.
I didn't know where I was going. I could have been really good at kicking, I think, if I just had a little bit better mentality.
Exactly. Yeah, it is.
Bam, bam. Bam, bam.
Bam, bam. You make my heart sing.
Bam, bam, bam, bam, bam. You make everything groovy.
Yeah, that's what it was. That was my right leg when kicking field goals.
Yeah, so punting was better for me because if you're stronger, you're going to help in punting because you have to hit the ball hard every single time. And once I learned the technique, I enjoyed punting a lot more than kicking.
Well, based on that clip we just absolutely de cleaning on the sideline did you ever play another position because you don't have that that form doesn't come out unless you've done that before that aggression doesn't come out unless you've done that before yeah like that was not the first time you've ever laid a hit like that boys what what city are you from we're from cleveland heights ohio okay i'm from pittsburgh yep yeah football town of course you did towns of course like these are football tents grew up playing pickup football you know what i mean it was on the street in between the telephone poles or it was in somebody's backyard so i have been playing football my entire life i played soccer though so like i played a lot of soccer and also you know from where i'm from not a lot of people it in sports ever. So I think when I was young, they like decided and deemed that I was going to make it in soccer.
So I think nobody really wanted to fuck it up in anything, right? So soccer was my full focus. But I also played football in the neighborhood and in Plum a lot.
And everybody that played on the football team, I was friends with. I was like six foot tall, 190, 180, two playing soccer.
So football was a natural thing. And then I did that punt pass and kick.
You talked about it earlier. And when I won that, they asked me to come kick.
I couldn't make it to practice. So I would literally just show up on Fridays before the game.
That's crazy. First time putting on the pads, I had no idea what I was doing.
That is kind of how how it all came together but i've been playing football forever you know i got an older brother his friends played football with so it's like i'm from pittsburgh so i know football my family's happiness levels ran off the pittsburgh steelers success rates like my dad that die hard of an nfl fan so it's like kind of had it in me but i also should have played football more as a kid, I think, personally.

Okay.

All right.

It worked out.

I hear you.

When you get to run a fake punt, what does that feel like?

Because when we run trick plays in like the red zone, it's like one of the things that we're looking forward to. Hey, we're going to run this play.

Who the hell knows what's about to happen?

But it makes you kind of feel like a kid.

What's it feel like to go out there?

You know you're working on it all week.

Fake punt, even like more rare.

It's like one a gold a year maybe. that and you've had some i know you have the catastrophic one with my man uh come on now my man cold anderson but what is it like to have a fake punt called cold got sacked there pretty quick it did not go well for cold that was not how that was supposed to be executed as you guys know like every week there's some fake like field goal or fake punt that is like a guarantee always have them up like every day and then like if the situation calls for it you know we'll do it but what i've found is like if the team's good normally not gonna be running a lot of fake punts.
Like early in my career, I was explained to I had an idea for a throw.

I had an idea for a throw.

I could spin it.

I could spin the bill.

All right.

So let me get out there.

And I was told quickly, so you want us to take Peyton Manning off the field?

This is so good.

It's real, though.

Just to trick him. Just to trick him.
Trust me, me i got this they're not going to see it coming okay so give it right back to payton i'm giving it right back to him we're trying to give him the ball more we're gonna take him off the field so you can throw one okay so you know it's gonna work it is all in like the situations of it all and i was certainly very understanding of that but But yeah, I was real excited, man. Anytime I got an opportunity to do something to help the team, like any of those fakes or onside kicks that we got, that's a turnover.
That's another possession. That's a big deal.
Hell yeah. Stole a possession.
Huge. So it's like if you feel like you contribute more, obviously you're a little bit more proud of it.
But those ones that don't work out, have a question for you guys run so much trick shit you guys get excited for that still oh yeah i got pumped for uh i was supposed to have one actually on the monday night game and they brought a nickel blitz off the edge it completely fucked it up it almost ended up being a turnover um and when i say we completely fucked it up, I completely fucked it up because I didn't block him off the edge.

Sometimes, you know, it's just the trick plays can just get sniffed out by a blitz.

Or, you know, when they don't work, it makes you feel like an idiot for even trying it.

But typically Andy Reid's trick plays are pretty on cue.

And I've actually been a part of a trick play on a field goal twice twice in my career once in a pro bowl and once against the uh the pittsburgh steelers and both successful was it like a tight end runner or pass my guy dustin colquitt uh he was the holder for uh for i think it was cairo santos at the time put it put it down and then flicked it to me it was kind of like a little shovel pass underneath and i was out the out the gate. The other side, I was a wing completion for Colquitt.
That's a big deal. Let's make sure we pick up those extra yards.
I should have picked up my fucking feet and scored, but I, I at least got the first down. Do you guys draw those up? What was it? It might up or something where you, Andy Reed said he likes you guys to draw up the plays and then you guys practice them and do the whole thing? Is that still happening? Yeah, we still do that.
We'll do some fun stuff on Thursday practices during the specialist period. We'll meet Pat and a bunch of the offensive minds.
We'll go over there and just start screwing around with some stuff, see what works, see what doesn't. When we take it to Coach Reid, that's he's got 51 as he always likes to tell everybody so it's like he'll decide whether or not a version of that comes into the uh to the game plan you guys got to pitch you got to pitch the shit out of it this is a good idea we got it locked in i think we got one here yeah it's definitely yeah it's definitely how good an energy you bring to him for sure i pitched a few fake uh field goals and punts and i knew that my presentation was a big part of whether or not we are going to get this going to get through yeah some go some do not though those things cutting room floor those things are gone jason philly philly bananas that's like one of the most i mean what historic fakes or true sure yeah nobody really knows to this day was it philly philly or philly special and i can't even remember like all i know is that nick asked for philly philly it's known as philly special but he's just gonna go up lane lane was my cue to snap it and that was the easiest job in the world for me i'm just running naked i was like man call this as much as you want doug this is the easiest play in the world it's gonna be a historic play and i don't have to take any hits to the head yeah i'm just gonna run it we're winning the super bowl it's easy we tried to take that after you guys ran it and of course it's me throwing the ball to pat and sure enough there's a fucking cornerback over there and i'm like trying to play monkey in the middle with this fucking guy i could have just walked in the end zone it's against tampa bay the next day and here i am trying to like but i want touchdown pass.
And threw it out of bounds like an asshole.

That's smart play.

Smart football.

Travis and I were special teamers at one point.

We should admit that.

Jason, this is why it's so fucked up because Jason was the kicker.

And we're both still friendly fire.

A little friendly, you know.

I'm jealous.

I'm jealous that I sucked at it so bad.

I was the worst long snapper on the planet. I mean, I was a bad quarterback snapper, short snapper.
But it was horrendous. I like how humble you are.
You're like the greatest center of all time. How about Cole Komet? Did you see Cole Komet? No, I did not.
What's Cole out here doing? So long snapper got hurt. Long snapper got hurt for Chicago.
Yeah, Chicago. Cole Komet scores touchdown that has to go snap the extra point

because he's the backup long snapper.

Dude, how about pandemonium on the sideline

when the long snapper gets hurt?

Oh.

Brent Selig was our backup snapper, and right away,

just complete fear.

Like, we have not practiced this enough at all.

He goes out there.

It's always the tight end.

It's always the tight end.

He goes out there.

First one, perfect snap.

Second one, rolled back, complete disaster.

It's always the tight end. It's always the tight end.
He goes out there. First one, perfect snap.
Second one, rolled back, complete disaster. I remember this game.
It was like cold and rainy and shit, though. It wasn't a great weather day.
Are you the snapper, Travis? I am. I'm the backup snapper.
Me and Noah Gray. Whatever you need.
Me and Noah Gray. Noah Gray is our other tight end.
He actually did it in the preseason where LongSnapper got banged up. James Winchester, shout out to Winchester.
But yeah, he definitely, he's capable of it too, both field goal and punt. I think personally, I think the field goal, it's shorter, but it's kind of harder because you got to do it at a, you got to do a low, it's almost you got to just burn one right right over right over the like grass like right over the edge of the grass whereas punt punt you can just you can just fire that thing back there and hopefully the punters athletic and all i have one snap in a preseason game to dustin colquitt on punt and i i yanked that thing to the right about six or seven yards and he went and grabbed it came back to the left foot and booted it and he got it yeah he snagged it he snagged yeah jason athletic yeah geez louise all right shout out to dusty for making me look good now that i've uh i've faced enough shit for this.
Well, no, I haven't.

Keep coming.

But I do want to get to the media career, Pat, because, listen,

you are an unbelievable punter.

Absolutely outstanding.

I never thought something would be more impressive of a guy going into media.

But what you're doing, man, and what you have been doing is just insane.

You're by far the most talented guy I've ever seen in this space.

It's not even close. You're all over the place.

Dude, and you've done it your own way which is even more remarkable i did you know that this was something that you were going to get into like your whole career when did you know you were going into media and how did that i appreciate you saying that because literally since you guys have tried it you guys have uh had massive success so for you to say all those things that you said about me i could just go ahead and you know flip that right back to youtube absolutely crushing it congrats on that uh nine figure deal all right thank you for paving the way that's good boys owning it yourself okay boys that's good boys okay so like um i think that's the thing like i have a great group of dudes around me though like the dudes i have around me are so incredibly talented and we all kind of understand you know what is needed to be done each day like we're in here full time we try to keep up with everything that's happening in the sports world we have to you know kind of know what's worthy of chatting about what should be talked about also what's not being talked about that should be talked about and when we talk about it let's not take the easy way out and be negative like let's do this in a way where maybe we could celebrate sports a little bit that's kind of been since the beginning how we viewed it for sure hell yeah the guys i have around me are incredibly talented the work ethic is insane but also it's cool that like people seemingly have been pretty like accepting of like hey we're allowed to laugh and crack jokes as opposed to having to tear people down all the time in the sports world yeah we'll talk shit certainly and we are dumb and we will get things wrong for sure and i am i'm wide open for three hours every single day but you'll have fun with like you you did with lombardi and uh max crosby last week bingo so we get into some shit like we could because we are just kind of out here having a conversation trying to have a good time but we all have the same mindset we're all very appreciative of what we are doing and uh we're all fans of sports you know so like the more people that get into sports we're happy about and uh we want to make sports like a good time like people think of sports like hey it's a good time because there's a lot of shit that's driving everybody like this seemingly for sure it's like sports do this and they really do yeah and it's like that's what we try to celebrate as much as possible but we mess it up but it's the group of dudes i have around me man it's uh it's a lot of fun it is a lot of fun every day yeah you got a great crew man how did it all like what was the first conversation of like, hey, we're going to start this show? Okay, so when I was playing, I got a chance to do the Bob and Tom show, which you guys in Cleveland might know who the Bob and Tom show is. So Bob and Tom, maybe not.
Okay, sweet. Shout out to Bob and Tom.
Yeah, shout out to Bob and Tom. Good people, good people.
Great people. They're an Indianapolis staple.
They're a morning show. They were syndicated on like 170 channels across the country radio, 6 a.m.
to 10 a.m. They had they owned it, too.
So like the business they've had. So they did good business in this entire thing.
They were in Indianapolis. It was a comedy morning show.
Basically, every comedian you've ever heard of has been through there during their tour because Indianapolis is pretty centrally located. So from 6 to 10, they're like nationally syndicated everywhere.
And then from 10 to 1030, it's just like a local hour here in Indianapolis. They negotiated some deal and it was like a Colts Tuesday, which was our off days.
Jeff Saturday was the guy that did that for like 10 years with them. Jeff Saturday leaves to go to Green Bay.
They asked Jeff Saturday like, hey, who should take your spot in here? You know, and Jeff Saturday says like, you got to get the punter. The punter is the guy to do this or whatever.
There we go. Shout out to Jeff.
So then a couple of the other media people also told him that you should get the, uh, pat or whatever. And I think they even said my name wrong at the time.
So when Bob and Tom, so when Bob and Tom approached me and, uh, my dad was a truck driver growing up. So obviously he was on the road a lot with radio.
So Bob and Tom, he knew about Bob and Tom. So I knew about Bob and Tom whenever I was a kid, uh, growing growing up so when bob and tom approached me to join the show i was like i'm not gonna be the one that ruins this fucking show you know it's been around like 30 years i don't think i'm the right guy for your show like my the shit that i am is just not i don't think is the right for your show and tom griswold from bob and tom said uh you would be the dumbest guy on earth if you did not come on our show or whatever.
And I was like, OK, I'll come do show. So I get in there first week, first 30 minutes.
I've never felt like more comfortable. Like I was just they were talking about news.
They were talking about sports. And it was like they had three comedians in there.
Bob Cavillian is like one of the quickest smart asses on earth. He's there.
And it was just like I almost felt like alive in there for like 30, 30 minutes or whatever. And then the next week when they're live from six to 10 on the national audience, Tom Grizzle was like, Hey, next week, anytime you want to come in, come in.
So I went in there 6am. I was like, I'm coming in here 6am.
So I did like four hours with him in the morning. And it was like, I fell in love with it.
Like I really enjoyed the energy, the vibe, the way they set up the show, the structure of the show. And it was at that moment where I was like, this could be, this could be something I kind of get into, you know, then when I'll, while I'm still punting, I had a standup tour I did around the Midwest.
I did some other shows here in Indianapolis. I had a podcast, I had a merch store while I was playing.
So it was like, I was kind of doing the next step while I was still punting. And I was finding like fulfillment in all this stuff away from punting after the offense failed.
You know what I mean? Yeah. Like I was having a good time with the charity stuff I was doing.
I was having a good time with the comedy stuff. I was having a good time with the show.
And it was like, I need to fully focus on one of these because there's only 32 jobs in the NFL. You got to have respect for that.
But then also this is so much more fun. And I'd taken care of everybody financially that I thought I had to take care of with my NFL money.
And I was like, all'm gonna go I'm gonna try to chase fulfillment here and then it's become all this and it's so stupid I'm so lucky so thankful and I have a blast I'm literally just trying to enjoy it all it's such a genuine way to get into your next career though like you you and I can't stress this enough for the guys in the NFL that are looking for something outside of football you have to do it while you're still playing use those off seasons and the little connections that you make throughout your career to be able to set yourself up and it's so cool that you're you you started doing that you found it and then you just fucking took off come on you fucking took off did it did it actually make it easier for you to kind of hang it up or like you you could probably have played as long as you wanted to right i mean yeah i could still be out there kicking balls yeah so i played in that i played that soccer tournament last summer yeah i ripped my hip flexor kicking so i don't think i could still hate to see it jason i don't think i can still do it you were fucking balling though when i retired you were retired, yeah. No, I'm saying you were balling on that in the 7-on-7.
Thank you. Was it 7-on-7? What was that league? Yes, you know.
Okay, you saw it. You saw this? Yes, I saw the crosses.
I saw, yes, this fucking election, dude. Are you kidding me? I was in Cary, North Carolina for like four weeks.
We were down there. I did not know what I was signing up for.
And then our team got like good. Our team started like bonding.
having a chance i was like i fell in love with it but then yeah just ripped my shit i mean i had a pool of blood in my thigh for like three months that's when i felt old you know that's when i felt real real old but yeah definitely i think you know whenever guys retire and you know the stats obviously you guys both about the fall into bankruptcy after five years of professional athletes and everything like that. And I always wondered why when the NFL PA would come in, they always talked to us about saving money and yada, yada, yada.
And I actually asked a couple times, how come there's no ideas for everybody to make more money when they retire? Why can't we hear more like, hey, your story matters money? Hey, speaking is maybe something you should get into. Tell your story.
Everybody who makes the NFL has a story. Everybody.
Everybody. Like, no matter what story is, that success story can pivot you into a new profession later.
I was wondering why that was never talked about. So I think like fully focusing to this, and I retired very early and everybody said, and a lot of the people said I was dumb.
A lot of people said I was an idiot when I retired. Six million bucks on the table, all that, yada, yada, yada.
So there was also like, did it make it easier to hang it up after hearing that? Maybe not, but it also made me get to a mental point that was like, I'm fucking making it. I'm going to prove all these motherfuckers wrong.
Yeah. Backs against the wall, boys.
Yeah. These people are not going to be right.
Yeah. That is not going to happen in there.
That's a good driver. Yeah.
I yeah i think having a focus having something to focus on enjoying what you're doing and still having like the locker room because i got the boys here you know yeah it's it is it certainly helped a lot it certainly helped a lot i love it man you've talked about your boys all and one of the things that has just been so fucking awesome about the way you've done it is you have not changed who you are or how you do it i still remember remember seeing you down in the Pro Bowl. What was that? Arizona, maybe? Or maybe it was like, you're the exact same fucking guy, no matter when you are, whether you're on TV, off, like wherever you're at, you are Pat McAfee.
You've brought all your boys with you. You've done it your own way.
You've created your own path. He's a real one.
The way your brain works is fucking. I don't even understand't even understand it to be honest with you man it's like always just the neurons could work the only thing that works better than your leg is a punter is those neurons you got up there they're freaking clicking at all times brother it's impressive thanks i appreciate it to see where it's gotten to now espn college game day i don't know man is this did you envision it getting to this are you happy with where it's at right now were you always a college game day like kind of like were you always excited on a college game i mean you had a pretty good college experience over there in west virginia no was it always we had good times in morgantown we had good times we gotta yeah we gotta talk a little bit about that we we know some guys we We know some real dogs that were over there in West V, man.

That was my first alcoholic drink was in Morgantown at a seven on seven tournament.

I think that's a lot of people's stories.

I think that's a lot of people's stories.

We went down to the gas station and got Mad Dog 2020 Orange Jubilee.

Yeah, it is.

Oh, baby.

That's good.

Those Mad Dog 2020s used to be a real problem. Yeah, i think everybody thought they were softer they were not no they were not they were not no they were throwing a hundo you know they were in uh when you talk about uh college game day i i think just like everybody else in the nfl like we watch college game day every saturday to keep up with it's in every building, you know? And I think in college, we watch it every single Saturday.
So I think I've always been a college game day fan, you know, come from Pittsburgh though, which is an NFL town, which is, you know, interesting. So whenever college game day becomes an opportunity, it was never a show.
Like I thought to myself, like I could be on, but then whenever you're presented with opportunity to be on like one of the top two institutions in the history of sports media and it's football and it's wrestling, you know, in front of a live audience. Yes.
So, and obviously I am so incredibly lucky to have a relationship with the WWE to growing up, how big of a fan I was of wrestling and WWF. Yes.
Everything it is. So it's like football and wrestling.
And it's one of the greatest shows in the history of shows and you're like there's only so many spots so massive honor to even be asked to do this it's like all right i'm going in i'm gonna go in and i've been baptized by college football in this entire thing it is electric bro i know you're from cleveland i'm from pittsburgh these college towns especially down there in the south i mean out in oregon bananas berkeley crazy these people in the south are praying to the it's god it's jesus christ that it is the team you know it's like it's crazy it's been an honor dude it has been so much fun so i try to have a blast everywhere i go because i'll committed in like that is a part of college ball like all the pageantry and the tradition and loyalty. So I'm lucky to do that, man.
I really am. And to say, did I know it was going to go like this? No, bro.
I had no idea. I had no clue.
I was hoping just to be able to survive and pay my guys. And like, we just have fun, go to work together, do our thing.
But then like things just kind of happen. I remember the day you went door to door and handed out some envelopes, man.
You me that's a real one right there man the backpacks to the boys backpacks my bad yeah those still happen uh they do it in a different way that's much easier to tax you know because yeah i guess backpacks of a hundred thousand bucks is not the easiest way to that's tracking and then to broadcast it too so everybody up there let's make sure we saw a backpack was there actually cash in that no no no anything in there how much did he say he said it was a bit there's nothing in there yeah there's a fake money a fake money what's the better atmosphere college football or nfl and i guess it's different depending on which college and which nfl but just in general you've been a part of both I don't know. Kansas City seems pretty insane.
Arrowhead seems crazy, right? I mean, that is a crazy place. Yeah, it's getting rocking, baby.
You get it rocking. They got chants and shit too, right, that they do throughout the entire game? Oh, yeah.
In the home of the Gs. And when you're in an away place and you hear that, you guys got to get pumped about that.
Oh, fuck yeah, we're here. We're here.
I just know the away team or the home team hates that shit. That is one thing I'm jealous of.
Soccer stadiums is those old school chants, those call and react chants. Yes.
You don't have those. So that's what every college has.
That's what every college has. Those are electric.
All right. So that keeps the stadiums like throughout.
Like, you know, there's a dead period in NFL games maybe. Yeah.
It's like the college college ones there's no dead period because there's like give and take calls back and forth like when i do all that shit on game day it's like that's what they're doing in the stadium and i you know i'm very lucky to learn that i so like the day before so fucking electric out in eugene oregon this weekend you had me off my couch singing with you dog that shit everybody is in the group chat. Every group chat I'm a part of, like, bro, Pat McAfee's the best thing to have in the college football.
Everybody's saying it. Dude, you had everybody livid and ready to fucking rock and roll for that Oregon-Ohio State game, man.
Tell everybody I said thank you for the kind remarks. And the thing about it is I'm learning that from like walking around the town the day before.

So I try to go like experience like their food spot.

Like what's their food spots that they talk about?

Because every college has that. It's authentic, man.

Hell yeah.

So I'm trying to tell my own story.

Like when I go experience it, go see some spots.

I'll go see the team facility.

And I'll try to ask people at all these places.

I'm like, hey, what's the shit?

What are we saying out here?

And I'll get like an answer from somebody. And they'll be like, you say go then they'll say docs i'm like okay they'll go they're like they'll go with it i'm like thank god because there has been one time it was for the wwe i do like uh commercial break i do i kind of promo on commercial breaks in these arenas and i try to do the same thing i try to get the local thing i was misled I was told that the crowd was going to go and

I was misled. I was misled.

I was told that the crowd was going to go.

They did not go.

So the first time when that crowd responds to me in the morning for game day

and I hear it back, I'm like, thank you.

I was not lied to you.

That is good news.

But Eugene showed up in a big way.

Berkeley showed up in a big way.

Obviously Alabama.

I'm having a time in my life, man.

And I'm learning so much about all these schools and everybody's cool.

Yeah, you, you play to a crowd. Great, but it doesn't look like it's like being done in any, like you just are genuinely loving to be there.
And it's fucking awesome to see, man. It's awesome.
Well, that's like a part of it. You know, like that's a part of college ball is like the fans.
Fuck. Yeah.
That's the beauty that you're on site that you get. Let's take advantage of it.
And you're, I mean, you maximize it, brother. It is awesome to see.
What were you wearing? You were wearing a Fred Flintstone thing doing picks the other night. Dude, I don't know what I'm doing.
Ha ha ha. Yeah, Jason.
Wilma. Wilma.
That's awesome. That's awesome.
You enjoying it? You're crushing it? I'm having fun. I'm having fun.
I'm fun i'm learning i do want to like dude i would love to talk to you when we even got more time about how you prepare that's the one thing that's the craziest is i've never watched this much football like when you play you watch your own team and you get really hyper focused on the players you're playing and the like what you're doing for the game now it's like dude i gotta watch like all this stuff like everybody's just watching all these games and it's it's hard and for you you're doing all of this like it is even more impressive yeah you're you're in every fucking sport dude i don't know how your mind does this dude i don't know it's the neurons the neurons are operating on a different level man so here's how if i see it if i see, normally it's going to stay there. All right.
But I have to see it, though. So like the night before college game day, I'm running through everything.
I'm running through every team. I'm running through every player.
I got Tone Diggs, one of my guys. He writes up a full preview of what the weekend will be like.
But I have to see it. So once I see it, though's in there it's in there so it takes up some time it's like for you acting travis what were you did you memorize how'd you memorize those lines and everything i mean yeah the the lines are you just gotta you gotta i was fortunate enough to have an acting coach and you just keep shooting the lines over and over and over again till you get comfortable with it and then you'll finally find out and feel out what the scene actually is at least that's what that's what my learning experience was for the lines and everything and acting and then you can kind of riff how'd you do you crush it um i think jason jason didn't tell me i sucked so uh so far so good yeah fun as hell congratulations dude i don't know how often you know people just celebrate right in your face on your show i apologize but uh that's on me completely that's awesome though dude i think about some of the shit you're doing right now and like the pictures you know my wife massive fan of your lady so i i get i get updates on all this shit here's having dinner with wolverine and deadpool and then you're out you know it's like do you ever get do you ever like at this point you still understand right you still at this point at this point it's just it you can't fathom what's going on so it's just like a dream you're just like oh yeah no you're not surprised by like the next thing that comes in or comes into the next person that walks into the door yeah it's crazy it's insane i don't even i don't know how the fuck i got to live this uh silly ass fucking life man

but i am uh i'm definitely fortunate for it for sure you've earned it you've earned it never

forget it that's awesome dude we're gonna wrap up this segment with uh we gotta ask you don't

have to answer we prefer you answer but obviously this is up to you pat first question you uh we

gotta ask nick siriana brings up a story about you all the time uh drunk and swimming in a canal uh he brings it up during the off-season portion where everybody's going away and he's talking about don't get don't be too crazy uh when you're away from the the facilities uh could you maybe share that story with all the 92 percenters out there well i hope I hope Nick Sirianni, Coach Sirianni, was an honorable lad and said that that's all a legend. Okay.
I was certainly found rather intoxicated. Very early in the morning, shirtless and wet.
Late in October, it was cold.

It was a cold morning.

And in the police report, they pieced together

that I had probably been swimming in a canal nearby.

Big thanks to those cops.

They got me off the streets that morning

when I was certainly intoxicated publicly.

Got a $140 fine for that. What? Had to do some community service.
Ridiculous. And I still haven't got it cleared that we don't know if I was in a canal.
And by we, I mean the police or me. That was – Nobody has proof.
We learned from that. We moved along.
But, yeah, I appreciate Coach Cir saying, don't be that guy and me being that guy, because you should have seen how I felt in jail. I am not a good enough punter to be sitting in jail right now.
No way. I thought it was over.
I thought it was over. I thought it was over.
Who's the bigger legend in West Virginia? You or Owen Schmidt? Owen Schmidt, dude. That guy could be governor anytime he wanted to be.
Dude, it's insane, ain't it? You're talking about truck drivers. Dude, you know he's a truck driver.
He's worked for UPS now. Yeah, I'll FaceTime him.
I'll FaceTime him. And he'll be, you know, at work.
And then he'll introduce me to a couple of the boys. I'll get a chance to chat with him.
I got a chance to see him a few weeks ago whenever we went to Morgantown to do our show before west virginia took on penn state if you do a call in that game west virginia lost penn state but there was a two-hour delay so there was a two-hour delay wasn't a real game right you know shouldn't even count and it's the entire thing but owen was there he was one of the guests he drove up from greenbrier area multiple hours i did not know he had to drive that far so he held held that over my head, obviously. Because Pat White came in from Alabama.

I got Pat White on a plane

to come up. How about it, baby?

So I got Pat White on a plane

to come up, you know, flew him up to Morgantown.

We're going to make sure. Owen had to drive,

so he held that over my head, obviously. But as soon

as Owen gets in front of that crowd,

they pay their respects, man. Owen Schmidt

is like the living embodiment

of what a West Virginia Mountaineer should be. And i've never seen a human be able to delete beers like owen schmidt impressive very impressive wasn't his nickname was that is this true and this is the story i remember his nickname was runaway beer truck is that accurate yeah it was it was probably the most perfect nickname ever given to anybody in the history literally you want to talk about running right through a fucking brick wall, man.
That guy would do it all. He would break helmets, Travis.
He would break face masks. On his face.
On his face. Yeah.
He was psycho. We got to talk about 2008 UC versus West Virginia.
I know you remember this one. I said a story earlier about alcohol being my first drink ever being in Morgantown.

I also had the first beer poured on me in a football uniform in the corner of the end zone after overtime,

which you freaking solidified.

How long was that kick?

That was a long one.

Oh, I forgot that game.

That was like Biggie's championship type game.

Yeah, it was huge.

There was a lot on the line.

Yeah.

We won in overtime. It felt like you single-handedly.
You had to make a field goal at the end of regulation to send it to overtime. Hand it onside kick.
Hand it onside kick. Hand it onside kick.
Hand it onside kick. Forgot about that.
Forgot about that. It's all coming back.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I am.
I have something to remember. You remember our fans were sprinting back in.
They left. They went into the hills.
They went to the hills the hills then they came back with cans i don't know how they got them in the stadium i do remember that yeah i do remember that and we lost well we got a roughing the passer i think it was something like that late there was a penalty and then we kazim ali caught one in the corner of the end zone yeah our tight end and i just remember beers being rained down upon us. It was...
Yeah. Yeah, those people were pretty intoxicated probably.
Yeah. They were maybe in the canal potentially.
A lot of emotions. They were up and down that whole game.
Hey, that Cincinnati-West Virginia run was cool. When you guys had Brian Kelly's head almost exploding everywhere.
Big East was rocking, man. You guys started it, right? You guys are Louisville.
It felt like it was Louisville. Then you guys took it from louisville then we took it for a little bit there was like a weird run there where the biggies actually had some really good teams okay if i recall here new biggies happened i had like year i don't know if it was the year i got there 2005 is when i graduated high school so when i get there i think it was new biggies louisville just came to the biggies remember they were supposed to run biggies i think think.
Yeah, Brian Brom and who was the running back that they had that was a beast? I can't remember his name. Mike Bush.
Bush. Bush, yes.
Michael Bush. Dog.
Absolute dog. And then Harry, I think, was over there, too.
They had a great team. Triple overtime, I think, by freshman year we beat them.
So it was like, we had it. Then I think Louisville took it.
you guys pittsburgh was pretty good in there too they had old fitzy fitzy and uh and la sean mccoy they were never the front team though they were good i don't know i might have just been a shady fan i don't know shady oh they did win one year i think you're right when shady was there they might have won one year too no they lost they lost at the lost at the end of it. Talk about ball security.
Yeah.

He would show up in your stadium

and get the ball like this

and shake the shit out of every human in there.

It's so crazy.

It was awesome to watch.

Big East was a real deal.

It was.

It was a fun conference there.

Shout out to the old Big East.

All right.

Rest in peace.

Rest in peace.

UConn even didn't suck.

No, UConn.

UConn. They used to throw that grass out.
They were making some runs. They were good at basketball.
They were holding down basketball. They were holding it down.
They beat us. I can't talk.
We're about third way through the NFL season. Who's your early Super Bowl pick, Pat? Chiefs is still the Chiefs, brother.
All right. There we go.
All right now.

And that is not just because he's sitting here,

and I'm such a massive fan.

I'm just a believer in, like, greatness.

I legitimately am.

I believe that there is, like, levels to this shit.

And for 20-some years, we saw the New England Patriots.

For what reason?

Well, they just were.

Happens facts.

They just were great.

In the air. In the air in the ball.
In the airs in the ball. That was against the Colts.
We couldn't wait for that. Videotaping coaches.
Yeah, Spygate. All this shit gets thrown at one thing, and that's greatness, Norman.
That's what he calls out of it. That is how it is.
So I think when push comes to shove, I think these dudes figure it out. Like, I just am a firm believer.
Last year, you know, there was a little time, and I don't want to bring up bad times in the Kansas City Chiefs, but the boys seemingly stunk for a bit. It was a few weeks.
It was a rough road. It got a little treacherous.
It's the only year I ever beat the Chiefs and Andrew. That was the only time we ever got it done, and you still won the Super Bowl.
That's what I'm saying. There was a time.
Everybody thought they were done. They're not even making the playoffs.
It's over. Hey, everybody but me.
I want you to know. Hey, okay.
I was standing on this microphone, and I said the Chiefs are still the Chiefs. I don't know what everybody's talking about.
Pat had a flu one day. It was windy the other day.
I just saw. I just believed.
And I just think that that that's the case and then i watched that quarterback show or whatever the hell it is oh yeah on netflix yeah and i realized that pastor i was like well the coolest dudes of all fucking times not only they don't make him any better man they don't make him any better dude house and beers talking shit working his dick off fighting through injury and then making every play they don't make that there's you know what i mean yeah that That doesn't... Yeah, so I believe in the Chiefs, personally.
That's why I believe in the Chiefs. I love it.
Even with a team like the Jets getting a guy like Devontae Adams today? Big deal. He popped his head in.
I don't know if you saw it. Devontae popped his head into our conversation with Aaron Rodgers.
Yeah. Did he? I did not know.
I did not.

He came in with a football in hand, turns, spins the ball.

Hello, Devontae.

Good to see you.

Long time no see.

They seem to be ready to go.

I mean, they just lost to the Bills less than like 14 hours before that.

And Jets fans are pumped.

They should be. They are very, very excited about the future.

And I can see why.

Devontae's a dog.

He is a dog. Devontae, Garrett, Wilson, they some in the offense looked a lot better, especially in the first half this past week or yesterday.
They're running it, Jason. Either way, I know.
How about that? Let's hand the ball off. Get this guy, Brees Hall, involved.
Who's that? Brees Hall? He's pretty good. He's pretty good.
Also, let's do more tush pushes. Let's get these centers.
Let's compile some more. Did you bitch about it on this show a lot? Or no, I don't know if I saw it, about your body just getting demolished.
Just getting absolutely just full. Like you said, like an accordion.
He's just getting folded every single fucking time. It's hilarious.
I laugh at it at this point. I never used to bitch that much.
Think about how much we were hyping it up, too. We were so loud, like, Tush Bush, so awesome, 92%.
Keep doing it. We need to keep doing it.
And Jason has to be supportive. He has to.
He's a team guy. I didn't really talk too much shit.
And Lane Johnson, Lane Johnson let the cat out of the bag. He used to say that every time he would get called in the huddle, I'd just be like, fuck my life my life that's awesome but you literally publicly had to support it because it was working and it was like your thing it was like and listen i hated it but let's let's you know what if it gets the first down keeps the strap converts it's i mean it's a free you're avoiding a turnover it's insane yeah i agree that's a lot of football'll take a compressed vertebrae for that bring it on pat who's your uh who's your two early mvp right now oh okay so do you believe that somebody other than a quarterback can win the mvp i think it's gonna take a lot it's gonna be hard Yeah.
Depends who. It's going to take something like what this Boise State kid is doing at running back.
Holy shit. It's going to take something like that to take the attention away from a quarterback getting it, I think.
He's ahead of Barry Sanders. Barry Sanders had like 2,600 rush yards.
He's ahead of schedule. He's six games in.
He's already got 1,200 and like 17 touchdowns. The shit ridiculous and to be clear gente we think it's incredibly admirable and cool that you're still at boise state because he led the country in yards i think last year too i assume there was big offers yeah had to him to go but nil money oh yeah i assume there was big offers to get him out of boise state he's still in boise running on that smurf turf i respect he's like no it's something i he blends in that blue turf man dude he never stops running either he's very impressive but if we stick in a running back could potentially win an award that normally goes to quarterback like derrick henry right now oh yeah scoring touchdowns just like non-stop it's just right just when they just when they think just because the titans got rid of him everyone's like, oh, he's not the same player.
Fucking just running.

Just running 22 miles, 21 miles an hour, 22 miles per hour,

getting tickets in a school zone.

You kidding me?

He's this tall.

He's unbelievable, man.

I'll admit, I'm an idiot.

When they made that pick, I'm like, dude, he's a shock.

They're going to put him in shock.

And how's this going to work with Lamar?

And I was like, oh, yeah, no.

He's just bigger and faster and stronger than everybody.

Let's just get those guys on our team.

Let's just let that guy go north and south.

Good luck tackling that.

Thank you. and shotgun, how's this going to work with Lamar? And I was like, oh, yeah, no.
He's just bigger and faster and stronger than everybody. Let's just get those guys on our team.
Let's just let that guy go north and south. Good luck tackling that.
And that's Harbaugh football, too. It is.
He will. And then they got Ricard as a fullback, too.
It's like he's 280 or whatever, former D-end. It's like I don't understand how they were allowed to do that trade.
I don't know how that was. That seems to be unfair.
Well, good job, Harbaugh. I hope he wins.
I would be very much as, obviously, offensive lineman. But King Henry, I don't know, man.
That guy's just a dog. He is.
Let's get an offensive lineman award. Yeah, that's like against the religion O-line to get an award.
But it's got to be like a group award. They got the four tough offensive line.
Fucking Penny Sewell is fun to watch now. See, they hook and lateral.
Almost had a touchdown. Had a callback.
Dude, he balanced himself. How is he? Three what? He's got to be at least 350.
He's up there. He's a big man.
Big man. Hey, my elbow would explode.
Trav, why is everybody so big, strong, and fast these days? I don't know, man. I don't get it where they find these people at how tall are you uh six five six four and seven eights if you ask the fucking combine they they fucking cut a quarter of a fucking like can you just give me the quote just give me each of an inch just can i get that eight and be six five or do i gotta be six four and seven eight they push you They got it twice.
They're like, yeah, 6'5 seems too tall for you. I think we need to do this again.
I just talked about these people being too big and too fast and too athletic, and I'm talking to a dipshit here at 6'5 moving around to like 4'6 at the age of like 50. You know what I mean? I mean, Travis, you're a freak show, brother.
Absolute freak show. Having fun out there.
Pat, we're getting close to getting out. Is there anything that we haven't hit that you want to talk about? Anything that, like, I don't know, man.
Yeah, you got anything fun coming up that people don't know about yet? No, dude. There's way too much of me.
This show ending quicker is better. But aside from that, I would like to let you guys know, I appreciate the hell out of the invite on the program here.
I'm a massive fan of you guys. And what you're doing right now with media is a big deal.
And I hope you get a chance to kind of take it in and enjoy it all. You guys are legends.
And Travis, the fact that you're still able to do all this while still playing, I know it's not easy to balance. You keeping the main thing the main thing and still being able to do all this, incredibly impressive.
And Jason, you're big ass with your untied Tims. Just getting dropped into this media world and taking over.
Your acting abilities in a Buffalo Wild Rings commercial and then an ESPN NFL Monday Night commercial. I mean, let's go, boys.
You guys are crushing it. Great time to be alive.
I appreciate you both so much. Well, the honor's all ours, Pat.
Thank you for coming on. Thank you for paving the way, changing the game.
It's incredible to watch your career up to this point. Can't wait to keep watching.

Keep being you.

Oh, yeah.

Can't wait to see you in freaking Austin, Texas this week.

College game day.

Intern Brandon, big Austin, Texas guy.

Big Texas fan down here.

Brandon's excited.

What are the chance, brother?

Don't leave me astray.

Don't leave me astray.

Keep making sports fucking fun, brother.

I love watching you, man. Love watching you.
I can't wait to join you on the fucking show sometime soon. Yeah, don't feel both of you, okay? There is an open invite for any Kelsey, mama.
I want to get to the fucking Thunderdome, and I'm fucking pissed I haven't been there yet, man. That shit looks like.
Hey, listen, if you make it out to Indianapolis ever, would love to have you here in the Thunderdome. Have a good old time.
But anytime you both want to come on the program, open invite. Whenever the hell, I would be grateful and thankful, just like I am that I'm here.
And you guys, you're the best, man. You're the greatest, brother.
Pat, thanks so much, brother. All right, now.
Pat McAfee, ladies and gentlemen. You're the greatest, dog.
Great. Thank you so much to Pat McAfee for coming on.
i can't tell you how electric that was that's that's one of the ones we've been waiting for we've been waiting to get him we finally got him thank goodness and that he's the busiest dude in the world thank you brother for uh for giving us your time man we fucking love that dude man he's uh he's changing sports for the good, man. He's making sports fun as fuck.

Similar to how I was talking to you about being

a part of ESPN and everything.

McAfee's doing it at a whole

other level, man. On all

aspects. The college world,

wrestling, you name it, man.

All of sports, he's making it better, man.

Thank you. Appreciate you coming on, brother.

He's changing the world, but he's still staying

true to that yinzer.

That wraps up another episode of

New Heights. Thank you, obviously, again to Pat Thank you.
Appreciate you coming on, brother. He's changing the world, but he's still staying true to that yinzer.
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