KC Goes Hollywood, Aaron Donald Retires and O-Line Reunion w/ Lane Johnson & Jordan Mailata | Ep 82

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In this episode, we've got a huge update about how to get tickets to our Cincinatti live show, the introduction of the first ever "Lombaby Games," and maybe the dumbest not dumb question about animal legs.

We also break down everything from the second week of NFL free agency including Hollywood Brown signing with the Chiefs, the Eagles bringing back CJGJ, and the guys react to Aaron Donald's retirement announcement.

And finally, we've got Jason's incredible conversatio with Lane Johnson and Jordan Mailata where we found out why Lane is always false starting, what it was like going from JUCO to the NFL, which guy has the saddest high school dating story, and more.

We will be back with more New Heights every Wednesday during the offseason so make sure you're subscribed to our YouTube Channel and wherever you get your podcasts so you don't miss a single episode and follow us on Instagram, Twitter, and TikTok for all the best moments from the show.

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Speaker 1 I grew up in an aviation family, and seeing Bronx kind of reminded me of myself when I was that age.

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Speaker 1 These small interactions can shape a kid's future. It felt like I was the captain.
Allowing my son to see the flight deck will stick with us forever. That's how good leads the way.

Speaker 1 Bro, Aaron Donald is younger than me. Yeah, no question.
Fuck. Well, you guys came in the same year.
No, we didn't. Yeah, you did.
He retired after 10 years. I'm in my 12th year this year.

Speaker 1 I thought he came in 2013 or 14. 14 would not be the same year.
He was 2014. This is blowing my mind, dude.
I need to retire.

Speaker 1 Welcome back to New Heights, ladies and gentlemen, presented by Wave Sports and Entertainment. We're your host.
I'm Travis Kelsey.

Speaker 1 It's my big brother, Jason Kelsey, out of Cleveland Heights, Ohio Heights high alum over here, baby. Actually, we're in the Hall of Fame,

Speaker 1 Hall of Famers over here. Cincinnati Bearcat alum as well.

Speaker 1 We got some fun stuff coming up for all our Bearcat fans here soon. But subscribe on YouTube wherever you find your podcast, follow the show on all social media at New Heights Show with 1s.

Speaker 1 Check out our official fan club at newheightshow.com also with 1s we're going to keep trying to get these episodes to you every wednesday but

Speaker 1 we're getting out of the house ladies and gentlemen so i don't know i don't know if we're going to keep bringing these things to you every single week but we'll we'll see we're gonna we're gonna try

Speaker 1 jason let the people know what the fuck we got i'm sorry trying to reel it back on the f-bombs but i'm just reel it back it's hard it's hard it's also like it is the intro too there's like something with like the first amount of time if you do an f-word uh the team has to like bleep it because it like demonetizes the video if it's like within two minutes or something like that.

Speaker 1 I don't know. Brandon knows more.
Anyways, yeah, we got another fantastic episode coming up for all you 92%.

Speaker 1 We're going to talk about some big free agency moves that went down since the last recording, as well as the latest Eagles in Chiefs signing news and potentially the greatest day in offensive lineman's history, or at least the last 10 years.

Speaker 1 Aaron Donald is surprisingly retired from the NFL. And yeah, we're going to get to a special episode on the back half of this.

Speaker 1 We're going to get to a special episode on the back half of this. Speaking of offensive line, with Jordan Milana and Mr.
Lane Stonewall Johnson. That's right.
Not right now.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I talk about the toughest guys to block, why Lane's always false starting, even though it's not really a false start. He's just jumping the snap, but we'll get into that in a little bit.

Speaker 1 He's getting a good jump. And yeah, all right.
Yeah, and some thoughts on the new Eagles coaches in that section. So before we get to that portion, let's get to a little bit of that.

Speaker 1 New news coming in hot and Cincinnati live show is in action,

Speaker 1 ladies and gentlemen. Coming to the natty.
We're excited to officially announce we're doing a live show at the University of Cincinnati on April 11th during alumni weekend. Thursday.

Speaker 1 We're going to be back hanging out with the

Speaker 1 football team.

Speaker 1 And yeah, it's going to be a fun time. The old historic Nipper Stadium.
Might have to bring a coat for this one, maybe even an umbrella, but we don't give a fuck.

Speaker 1 Don't give a fudge. Yep.

Speaker 1 Maybe better. I don't know.

Speaker 1 I would have been to Nippert Stadium. It is a hidden gem in the world of college football.

Speaker 1 It is such a Travis and I spent our entire careers practicing and playing games pretty much on that turf and in that stadium. Good, sweat, and tears, boys.

Speaker 1 So we were thinking about maybe doing a stadium trip. We didn't think there'd be any place better than the Nippert Stadium in Cincinnati.
Under the lights, baby.

Speaker 1 Get back there on the college campus, the college, the college students, our teammates,

Speaker 1 faculty, even though it's changed a lot. It has changed a lot.
Anyways, okay. What's your favorite non-game memory? From Nippert Stadium.

Speaker 1 I got a golden one.

Speaker 1 My story is Butch Jones. Shout out to Butch.

Speaker 1 Coach Butch Jones. Coach Jones decided to do a 5 a.m.
workout. Team workout.
Everybody has got to get to the stadium. And we ended up doing, doing, I think it was like a relay race of stadium steps.

Speaker 1 Oh my gosh. Yes.
And the

Speaker 1 anchor. And the anchor for the relay race are two.
It's offensive line versus defensive line. Two of the most athletic guys on the team.
And that's Jason Kelsey for the O-line and Brandon B.

Speaker 1 Shot of Mills, man.

Speaker 1 Just to give somebody

Speaker 1 content. Two effort guys.
Two big, high-effort guys. Guys are fucking fine.

Speaker 1 and you know what we're competitive at we're competitive people right no doubt cincinnati's stadium are really steep steps and then as it gets to there's like a point halfway through where it gets to longer steps like the steps get longer

Speaker 1 yeah so it goes straight down and then kind of evens out almost and kind of like flattens out and then it lets

Speaker 1 like straight onto the field so it's not like a lip it's like you're like directly on the field so guys would go up come down next guy would go up come down offense and then Jason and B.

Speaker 1 Mills are like neck and neck.

Speaker 1 Yeah, basically Brandon,

Speaker 1 B. Mills.
We're coming down. We're coming down.
Coming down real hot.

Speaker 1 Got caught gumming real hot coming down the steep part. So when it flattened out, kind of like stumbled a little bit.
You got to be ready. You got to get your balance ready.

Speaker 1 And immediately started tumbling. And when I tell you, like the metal benches, you could hear his boom, boom, boom, boom.
He just started tumbling down this thing and almost still almost like,

Speaker 1 I would say he almost beat you. He lost you.
But he somehow got back onto his feet. And when I tell you, it was one of the most electric things I've ever seen somebody be able to do.

Speaker 1 Just turn into a fucking barrel roll down stadium steps.

Speaker 1 I'm sure that story wasn't as funny to you guys, but it was damn funny. Yeah, you got got to picture it in your head.
Picture a 300-pound defensive tackle.

Speaker 1 I mean, B-shot, it definitely wasn't 300 pounds, but let's just say picture a 300-pound defensive tackle

Speaker 1 like falling down a set of bleachers, like tumbling. It was the last time they had us race down the

Speaker 1 can't do that.

Speaker 1 Well, that's a liability concern. Yeah, so anybody running those stadium steps, make sure you're ready for when it goes steep to flat.
You got to be ready for that. It'll catch you off guard.

Speaker 1 So those stadium steps suck sucked because they were so steep at the top so like you would think you were cruising through them at the beginning and then as you went up they would get harder and harder and harder and then when you went down like travis said you had to really know the steps would get like narrower to wider to like it was kind of tricky my freshman year before trav was there uh dave andrews and that strength crew used to do friday morning workouts and if anybody was late for the friday morning workout

Speaker 1 If you were inside, everybody was doing up-downs until that person got there. And if you were outside where you met on the stadium, sometimes we just meet straight out on the field.

Speaker 1 You would have to do stadium steps. And the whole team would be doing it until somebody went to the dorm and got the person who was late and brought him there.

Speaker 1 And one day I woke up and I looked at my clock and I was like, oh, no.

Speaker 1 That guy. I'm that guy.

Speaker 1 In my street clothes, am running to the stadium, which in Cincinnati, the stadium is in the middle of campus. And I'm running to try and get there.
And I just see them in the middle of stadium steps.

Speaker 1 And I just start doing stadium steps like right out of bed.

Speaker 1 And then

Speaker 1 they all take them into this into the weight room to actually do the workout at that point. And I had to do like just lap upon lap of stadium steps for like over an hour.
It was miserable.

Speaker 1 At the end of it, you're like not even running. You're just like walking up steps, right? It's like, oh, dude.

Speaker 1 so miserable. It's the best shit ever.
Good, good stadium step memories right there. Hey, if you guys want a good workout, though, those stadium steps do get you a good workout.

Speaker 1 All right, let's back to the show. We're putting the live show on.
That's great. Before the show, we are going to actually be hosting a special event.
The Great Lum Baby Games. That's right.

Speaker 1 In honor of the Golden Baby Trophy, the Vince Lum Baby, we are going to have a little competition.

Speaker 1 And we figured one of the beautiful things about doing this on a college campus is that it's just going to be, you want the college atmosphere.

Speaker 1 You want the students involved, the student athletes involved. Yeah.
So we are going to have two teams of UC students. I'm not going to lie.

Speaker 1 I got this idea from Revenge of the Nerds, football team versus the nerds. Not saying the non-athletic guys are nerds unless you like to be called a nerd and you value them.

Speaker 1 No, I'm a nerd at heart. I'm a nerd.

Speaker 1 I'm definitely a nerd. So yeah, we're going to have two teams, UC students, the athletic team, which is going to be comprised of UC student athletes, and the academic team.
Ooh.

Speaker 1 Still think we should call that Team Nerds. That will compete in a series of challenges.

Speaker 1 And we cannot wait to unveil these fun games that we have planned. Yeah, it's going to be ridiculous.
It's going to be so fucking fun. There's going to be all sorts of things involved.
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Let's see. Let's see what happens.
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Speaker 1 Don't think we're going to hit that unless you guys fucking buy some tickets right now. So why wouldn't you come? Why would you not come? I'll tell you.
The show is going to be fun.

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Let's take new heights to newer heights break another fucking record. I'm trying to break some records, man.
Gonna be back at our alma mater.

Speaker 1 Back with the kids.

Speaker 1 They're not kids. They're growing adults.
Back with the adult kids. Partying, hanging out.
Who would be a good guest? We got to get some of our favorite Bearcats.

Speaker 1 Got to get some of our favorite Bearcats. Maybe even a few Bengals.

Speaker 1 Get the Cincinnati fan base in there as well. We're open to suggestions.
Maybe the Cincinnati mayor wants to stop down. You guys can hash it out.
I'm going to have to hit my dog Orlando Brown, baby.

Speaker 1 OB. Yeah, 92%ers.
Shoot us some of your favorite Cincinnatians that you want us to maybe

Speaker 1 shoot an invite to to get them on the guest show, man. There we go.
If that even fucking made sense. I think it does.
All right.

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Speaker 1 Alrighty.

Speaker 1 It's time.

Speaker 1 What's time? For the segment we do every week. Which one's that? It's not the smart questions.
It's those dumbass questions? It's, well, it is the smart questions because there's no dumb questions.

Speaker 1 I like how you played that one, right? All righty. It's time to move on to no dumb questions.
That's right, everyone. Because there's no such thing as dumb questions, just dumb individuals.

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Speaker 1 from at Brit S L O, Britt Slow, on Twitter slash X. Is it ever going to be? I'm not, I'm on Twitter.

Speaker 1 If you had to swap your legs with the legs of any other animal, which which animal would you choose? All right. This is a dumbass question.
What do we want to

Speaker 1 swap in legs?

Speaker 1 Tell you which one I'm definitely not doing. Them knock-kneed ass ostriches

Speaker 1 going backwards and stuff. Why is that kind of knee? Yeah, we're going for power or are we going for length? Are we going for speed? Them motherfuckers are fast, though.
So you want fast.

Speaker 1 Are we only doing two legs?

Speaker 1 Two-legged animals? Yeah, so I guess

Speaker 1 if we swap with a four-legged animal, do we lose lose our arms these are great questions let's say for the sake

Speaker 1 of this question

Speaker 1 we're just swapping our

Speaker 1 two legs with two-ish similar legs of a four-legged creature if you choose a four-legged creature meaning we still have arms let's not compromise our opposite did you just say like if we go with a four-legged animal we really still only have two legs but they're kind of in the mold of the four legs and a four-legged animal who are you going with dude i don't know i don't know if i want power if i want length if i want speed if i want strength but like i said definitely not ostrich i mean you know you can't go with like something like a like a like a dachshund them little short stumpy things no you can't definitely not a dachshund little wiener dog you can't no no way yeah or do we want to say you get the number of legs because then if you're a spider you get eight of them that's an insect that's not an animal insects are animals travis part of the animal kingdom it's got its own like section god damn it, Jason.

Speaker 1 Is that true? Or am I wrong? Animals, insects.

Speaker 1 Maybe you're right. I feel like these questions just find

Speaker 1 how dumb we really are. Well, you just saw a rhino.
Rhino's got some powerful legs. Dude.
You saw that in person. Yeah, that's four legs.
You felt that girth in them legs.

Speaker 1 Listen, I saw how bouncy that thing was. It was bouncy? Dude, that thing was like...

Speaker 1 So like the rhino in Donkey Kong, when you could like jump around like it in Donkey Kong country, that was like a legitimate representation of a rhino. I swear, yes.
That's amazing. All right.

Speaker 1 So you got tall ones. Like, if you wanted to be tall, you'd go like giraffe, right? I mean, you'd be a pretty good basketball player with some giraffe legs.
Wembayama. He has giraffe tendencies.

Speaker 1 If his neck was a little bit longer. You can't tell me that dude wasn't made in a fucking lab over there in France.
Is he from France? Yep. It says pituitary

Speaker 1 thing, probably. 100%.
Yeah, so you got lions. Lab-grown diamonds.
That's lab-grown fucking NBA player.

Speaker 1 Listen, it's not far off. Let's be honest.
Can't wait till I fucking make one.

Speaker 1 Don't do this. Do not give any of these other conspiracy

Speaker 1 theorists anything else to latch on to, please. So you want speed.
You got cheetah.

Speaker 1 Right? Jason, who are you going with? I'm trying to talk this out to see like where I'm going. I don't know yet.
Just got to squeeze.

Speaker 1 You're not offering anything. You're right.
You've said no animals. Because I still don't know if we're counting four-legged animals in this.
We're counting all-legged animals. You go millipede.

Speaker 1 How about that? All right. But if I lose my hands, I don't want to.
You still have hands. You still have hands.

Speaker 1 So if I'd switch with a four-legged animal, now I'd just look like one of the mythological creatures, like the man on top of a horse. If you have four legs, no.
If you have four legs.

Speaker 1 Man on top of the horse. If you pick a four-legged animal, you're only taking the hind legs.
Your front legs are your front. Okay, so only hind legs.

Speaker 1 But if you pick more than a four-legged animal, like an eight-legged animal animal or a centipede, then you have to give up your hands.

Speaker 1 Don't worry, it makes sense. You'll get kangaroo jumping out the gym.
Yeah, but you need a tail. I'm telling you, saw that thing live the other day.
You need a tail.

Speaker 1 So, if you don't get the tail with it, it's fucking pointless. Has there ever been a tailless kangaroo? No, no, yeah, nope, like one of them has never got like chopped off or something.

Speaker 1 Maybe they do balance on that thing, dude. They do a lot with that thing.
I guess if I'm picking any animal's animal's legs in this scenario, I'm going to go an elephant. Elephant legs.

Speaker 1 It's got height. It's got power.
They're pretty fast.

Speaker 1 What other animals got better legs than an elephant? I'm not going to lie, I might go ostrich, dude. Those things are fast, man.
The knees go backwards, Travis.

Speaker 1 You're just asking for something bad to happen. No.
Taking some bird legs?

Speaker 1 You're going to come at this thing with some bird legs?

Speaker 1 Dude, not just some bird legs. One of the fastest fucking birds you've ever seen in your life.
It's fast because it's light, though. You're not light.

Speaker 1 Those legs will crumple under the weight of Travis Kelsey.

Speaker 1 Fuck.

Speaker 1 Nah, you're right. That knee direction only makes sense on something that's got minimal mass up top.
Feathers? How much does an ostrich weigh? We got to digress here. We're getting too dumb.

Speaker 1 We're going too dumb. We're going too dumb.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we're going too far dumb. I mean, yeah, I guess you're in the range.
140 to 320 pounds is a male ostrich. And if you took out your legs, you're probably in that range.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, you're in the range already, but you're on the lower end of that range. If you take away your lower half mass and put some little ass ostrich legs on you.
Give me the man on top of the horse.

Speaker 1 No, we just said that. You don't get to have.
Minotaurs are not.

Speaker 1 You don't get that. You're like.

Speaker 1 You know what you are? You remember the movie Hercules? Okay. Give me a bag.

Speaker 1 No take backs. He took horse.
You are like the mythological creature in Hercules. The one that had like the little

Speaker 1 legs.

Speaker 1 He plays them. No, it's not Pegasus.
I forget what it's called. Not a Pegasus.
It had goat legs. Oh, he had goat legs.
No,

Speaker 1 those weren't horse legs. But it's the same thing.
What? No, you're the same thing, but you got horse legs. I got to be short and stumpy like that.

Speaker 1 No, you're still tall because it's horse legs, not goat legs, but you only get the two. So who'd you go with? You went with elephant legs? Elephant.
Should have gone with crab legs.

Speaker 1 Would have had some armor. This was fucking so dumb.
Let's keep this thing moving. From

Speaker 1 Baber on X.

Speaker 1 No dumb questions. If the Chiefs play the Eagles in the Super Bowl next year,

Speaker 1 will Jason root

Speaker 1 for Travis?

Speaker 1 That's not the question. It says, who will Jason root for? And I will root for the Eagles, of course, because I will always be an Eagles.
That's cool, sure. First and foremost.

Speaker 1 First and foremost. Yeah.
I'll also root for Travis to have a good game, of course, because he's my brother. But no, I'll definitely be cheering on the Eagles in this scenario.
Well,

Speaker 1 good luck to your Eagles. There you go, Baber.
Cat, what you asked for. That's the end of that question.
Yeah. From user Sideboob55, Club92.
Sideboob 55. Guys, can we not

Speaker 1 make these kind of names on the Club 92 website? You're making us look like a bunch of jamokes. Is this a shot at Brandon? Or is this like...
Is it? Does Brandon... Does BG have some side boob?

Speaker 1 Do you got some? All right, whatever. What contractual obligations do players have during the offseason? Like, are dangerous activities off-limits? Basically, you can't get injured.

Speaker 1 If you get injured, you're fucked. Whatever you're doing, don't get injured and you're safe.

Speaker 1 You can do whatever you want. Just don't get injured.
So, just try and stay as safe as possible.

Speaker 1 If you get hurt at any point in the offseason, technically that ends up being considered what they call an NFI, non-football injury, and you are at risk of voiding any non-guaranteed money in your contract.

Speaker 1 There are some players that enjoy doing dangerous activities where they will sometimes have things written into their contracts ahead of time. So let's say

Speaker 1 they're signing a player that is a known motorcycle rider. They might write into the contract

Speaker 1 if you get hurt on a motorcycle, you are avoiding future even guaranteed money.

Speaker 1 That would be an addendum that a player might be signing. There are also contractual obligations, I guess, for

Speaker 1 workout bonuses.

Speaker 1 So some guys that they want to show up to the facilities, they don't know if they're going to show up to the facilities for off-season workouts, they will put bonuses in there, sometimes up to $500,000 to show up and lift weights and play in the sun with a bunch of your friends.

Speaker 1 It's a pretty good deal. But other than that, it's like it's pretty self-explanatory.
If you could die doing it, like jumping out a plane, it's probably going to be frowned upon by the NFL.

Speaker 1 But it doesn't even have to do with that. Like, you could, this is where it gets weird with NFI.

Speaker 1 If you're lifting weights outside the facility, that is still considered, like, you could be trying to become a better football player.

Speaker 1 You can still be labeled a non-football injury by these designations. I'm actually wish that they would kind of

Speaker 1 increase the parameters. I don't think a guy that's training to become better should be penalized for getting hurt, but it's a very vague rule that

Speaker 1 oftentimes the clubs enforce them when they know that a player was doing something stupid for the most part. Yeah.
There have been some horror stories. Tons of them.

Speaker 1 It can get pretty bad.

Speaker 1 But basically, you just

Speaker 1 want to, one, make sure that you're always,

Speaker 1 you know, in shape and not getting yourself into a bad position. But

Speaker 1 two, also, don't do dangerous shit where you could really fuck your shit off. Like we say all the time, you can be dumb.
Just don't be dumb. Just don't be real.
Don't be too dumb. Don't be real dumb.

Speaker 1 And I've been real dumb before. It's been close.
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Speaker 1 All right, a a little free agency roundup part two. That's right.
We talked about some free agency moves last week on the episode.

Speaker 1 And on this week, we're also going to talk some more free agency news. Now, just to be forewarned, this episode, the first half, is actually being recorded Saturday

Speaker 1 before this comes out. So we are going to be behind on some free agency moves coming up Saturday morning, to be exact.
The 16th. We are 9 a.m.
Eastern and Trav's over there 6 a.m. on the West Coast.

Speaker 1 That's why we early rising, baby.

Speaker 1 Early word gets the bird.

Speaker 1 Early word gets the bird. All right.
What

Speaker 1 we're just jacked up on accelerators today, baby. All right.
We made it. We're here and we're doing this fucking podcast.

Speaker 1 But there have been some free agency moves that have happened since the last episode, and we're going to touch on them right now. Starting with the Kansas City Chiefs.
That's right.

Speaker 1 Kansas City goes Hollywood. Woohoo.
How about that? Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 1 Got my dog. The Chiefs have officially signed former Cardinals and Ravens wide receiver, Marquise Hollywood Brown.
I'm fucking pumped, man. Per Adam Schefter.

Speaker 1 It's a one-year deal worth up to $11 million.

Speaker 1 Big money. One-year deal for up to...

Speaker 1 So just

Speaker 1 so everyone knows. Break it down.
The wording of some of these contracts, a lot of the time.

Speaker 1 So the reason this says up to $11 million is either Marquise Brown or the Chiefs want to make it sound like it's an $11 million deal. Up to means it's not an $11 million deal.

Speaker 1 Up to means he's got to be a Pro Bowler, certain amount of catches, certain amount of yards. It might just be roster bonus.
He might just have to play every game. I'm not trying to hate.

Speaker 1 I just, I don't like the way these contracts have started to get like sensationalized. I hate it.
It's stupid. It's every contract

Speaker 1 in any world. So it doesn't.
It's happened to me. Everybody has incentives.
Everybody has stuff in their line of work that they might have to meet. So it's not.

Speaker 1 I don't have a problem with incentives, but it ain't an $11 million contract.

Speaker 1 It's a $6 million contract with potential upside. That's not, there is likely to be earned upside, unlikely to be earned upside.

Speaker 1 All I'm saying is they finagle these numbers to say what sometimes the player or the team wants it to say so that somebody can save face publicly.

Speaker 1 Hollywood is going to get 11 mil because he's worth every penny and he's about to go crazy this year. All right, we'll find out.

Speaker 1 I am marking you to that. We will find out.
Put a stamp on it. Either way, whatever the amount is, this is a big move for the Kansas City Chiefs.
It's awesome, man.

Speaker 1 Look at that pose. I'm pumped about this one, man.
A guy can absolutely fly. Talk to my guys,

Speaker 1 my Oklahoma Sooners,

Speaker 1 on what type of guy he is, and everybody just raves about the person he is in the building. I saw him on Twitch streaming the day he signed or the day he confirmed it.

Speaker 1 And he was having a good old time, man. I think it's going to be a great addition to the locker room as well as on the field, man.
I'm pumped to get in the building and get to work, baby.

Speaker 1 One of the best things was Coach Reed's text.

Speaker 1 Hollywood ended up posting it on his Instagram. Coach Reed texting him, Hollywood, Think Red today.
KC Red with diamonds.

Speaker 1 Gosh, I love it. And, of course, Hollywood Brown in Hollywood fashion.

Speaker 1 Yes, sir. Love the sound of that.
Think Hollywood Brown lights camera action.

Speaker 1 There's one guy that knows a little bit about Hollywood. It's Andy Reed, baby.
L.A.'s finest right there. This is impressive by Big Red.
I didn't know.

Speaker 1 First of all, I didn't know people talked to each other like this, but I think this is

Speaker 1 impressive by the big man. I didn't know Andy was such a diamonds guy.
He's a big diamonds guy.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
Especially in the last five years. Yeah.
Did you know Andy was such an emoji guy? Of course I did. I've texted him.
He definitely uses the emojis. Yeah.

Speaker 1 There should be an Andy Reid emoji. We need to get that going.
Andy Reid emoji. Just got that little eyebrow.
You got the one look where you're giving the look that you get a lot. Give me that.

Speaker 1 Hey, what are you doing, son? Why are you doing this? What are you doing, son? We got to get

Speaker 1 the Nuggies look.

Speaker 1 Ooh. The Nuggies.
Eyebrows up.

Speaker 1 Eyebrows down.

Speaker 1 They could play that for the remainder of time, and I'll still enjoy it every time he says Nuggies, man.

Speaker 1 Yeah, before we get

Speaker 1 out of the Chiefs, I believe we also re-signed some guys. We got my guy, Tarshawn Wharton, back in the building, baby.
Turk. There we go.
Also, maybe Derek Nadi.

Speaker 1 I think we might have gotten Nadi back in the building. Is he healthy again? Yeah, I mean, not yet, but he got banged up and got put on IR right before we won the Super Bowl for that guy.

Speaker 1 And as of today

Speaker 1 at

Speaker 1 6 a.m.,

Speaker 1 we still got Legerious Need, baby. Still there.
Still there.

Speaker 1 LJ, man. How about that? Just stay.
Just right there. Just keep cruising.

Speaker 1 Still early in the offseason, baby. Just stay right there.
All right now. Let's keep the stay moving to a little Eagles free agency move since

Speaker 1 we still want to talk about the fucking Eagles, even though Jason doesn't play for him. Let's talk about him.
Listen, I'm an Eagle for life. Yeah, Philly dogs, as they call them.

Speaker 1 Get some more help on defense, getting C.J. Gardner Johnson back at safety.

Speaker 1 Is back in Philly, and he just signed a three-year deal with the Eagles. I don't know how you guys let him out of the building in the first place.
You want to talk about a dog?

Speaker 1 Maximum value of $33 million and in Jason's contract understanding that $33 million will probably not be reached.

Speaker 1 Well, listen, you can say that a police officer is making $75,000 a year, or you can factor in all the double time he's working on, all the shifts that he could potentially try and take, and say that he's making $200,000.

Speaker 1 All I'm saying is, let's just say... That actually wasn't a bad.
Well, if you factor in that, if I've worked double time every single day of the year, I'll be making, I'm $500,000.

Speaker 1 Garnet Johnson spent last season with the Lions, taking them all the way to the NFC Championship.

Speaker 1 There's been some controversy around this among fans because CJ took some shots at Eagles fans back in 2022, including calling them obnoxious. But he's since addressed it.
Quote, I'm obnoxious.

Speaker 1 I thought it was a compliment, to be honest with you. All jokes aside.
What's the definition of obnoxious? I was just in my feelings.

Speaker 1 When you want to be somewhere so bad to the point you can't control certain things, there was no meaning to it. I'm back.
Family reunion. To add some, I guess,

Speaker 1 not clarity, but some insight into what happened in 2022, which I think led to what CJ is saying right here. CJ wanted to stay in Philadelphia, I think.
And

Speaker 1 things didn't work out in the contract negotiations the way he wanted them to work out. And I think he felt slighted by that.

Speaker 1 signed into Detroit. And I think this

Speaker 1 quote really has more to do with that than I think it does how he actually feels about Philadelphia. And I was happy that he addressed it.

Speaker 1 And more important than that, I'm happy that he's back and that that is water under the bridge at this point because he's a phenomenal player.

Speaker 1 Not only is he a phenomenal player, but you know this, Travis. When you play

Speaker 1 defenses,

Speaker 1 the best defenses have these guys. And even if it's just all of them out there, you need to have this mentality.
It's not good enough just to be a good player on defense.

Speaker 1 You You have to have this, I mean, dog is the only way to put it, like this like killer instinct that, you know,

Speaker 1 it's like this impulsive, maniacal fly to the ball, sea ball, get ball, relentless effort, just attacking type player, right? And that's what C.J. is.
That's what he was when he was here.

Speaker 1 That's what he was last year when he was in Detroit.

Speaker 1 And I can tell you right now, everybody in the building is happy to get this guy back because he's going to bring that to the defensive side of the ball, which I think ultimately is going to help the Philadelphia Eagles defense this season.

Speaker 1 That isn't the only signing. That's right.
It's officially Howie season, and the Eagles have been making all sorts of moves.

Speaker 1 Let's run through a few of them. You guys got Josh Sweat back.
He's staying put, restructuring his contract despite interest from other teams that would have likely included a pay increase.

Speaker 1 So he just loves

Speaker 1 being a fucking Eagle, man. More than that.
I don't know what's been going on. Like, Josh and Hasan Riddick have been the topic of a lot of trade speculation, and

Speaker 1 there's a lot of speculation that either one or both wouldn't be on the team. It seems like with this restructure, that at least Josh will be here.
And listen, Sweaty.

Speaker 1 Sweaty, when he is feeling good and fresh, is one of the best defensive ends in the league. He's got great power, great speed, one of the best getoffs I've ever seen.

Speaker 1 A really, really good player that our tackles hate blocking. So certainly happy that he's, it looks like he's staying in Philadelphia for sure.
All right.

Speaker 1 Well, how about Eagles signing former Bucs linebacker Devin White? Look at that. Talk about a guy with a dog mentality and flying around to the ball, man.
That's one thing Devin White can do.

Speaker 1 And the Eagles agree to a one-year $7.5 million contract with former Bucs Pro Bowler, Devin White, who joins Josh Huff and Zach Brown

Speaker 1 as the third new Eagles linebacker edition. Did I say that one right? Well, definitely Josh Huff.
Dude, yeah, no, obviously

Speaker 1 had a bunch of games with Devin White between the both of us, man.

Speaker 1 He's a downhill kind of guy. Just flies around, talks a lot, talks a lot of shit.

Speaker 1 No, I'm serious. I've played him a lot, too.
I've never got into that portion with him.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 He has some fun. He has some fun playing the game, that's for damn sure.
This is a guy that I actually don't think he's downhill. I think he's more of like a...

Speaker 1 He's so fast. He's one of these guys, if you put him in a position where he can run sideline to sideline and just like run to the ball, he's going to excel.
That's why he has so many tackles. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He's also great in the passing game because of how athletic he is. He's not going to be mismatched too often.
Is that fair to say? I mean, you know more about that than I do.

Speaker 1 I don't know if that's accurate. I mean, we've gone, I think we've gone back and forth and had some great battles.
He's gotten me on a lot of them. I've gotten him on a few.

Speaker 1 So I think the key to this, like, he's a phenomenal player, especially if you keep the O-lineman off of him. If the D-lineman could eat up some of these blocks or create penetration and let him run,

Speaker 1 this guy is a phenomenal player, and he's been that way since he's been in the league. Well, you guys got former Steelers quarterback Kenny Pickett.
That's right.

Speaker 1 He just can't leave the state of Pennsylvania. The guy fucking just loves PA, man.
Grew up in the Philadelphia area, goes to Pittsburgh and comes right back to Philadelphia.

Speaker 1 Man, this guy just loves PA. We kind of talked about this last week with the Russell signing in Pittsburgh.
We didn't know what was going to happen with Kenny. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And we said that, you know, I said, you know, this is the quarterback is one piece that it feels like Pittsburgh is missing, right? Yeah. So I don't know why

Speaker 1 it didn't work out for Kenny in Pittsburgh, but we've seen this before. Sometimes it's the fit,

Speaker 1 the system, whatever it is.

Speaker 1 He gets to have a fresh start now and come over to Philadelphia.

Speaker 1 And obviously he'll be behind Jalen Hurts.

Speaker 1 And he'll have an opportunity to learn and grow and play with some really, really good players. I mean, obviously, we talked about it last week.
The skill set of the guys on the Eagles roster

Speaker 1 is pretty star-studded. So, yeah, not only does he get to come back to his hometown, but he gets a fresh start.
You know, we've seen this with other quarterbacks too.

Speaker 1 Baker just signed a $30 million a year deal down in Tampa Bay, and he's bounced around a few times. It's interesting to see how sometimes one stop is a guy's

Speaker 1 doesn't work out, but all of a sudden he ends up someplace else. Maybe a little Nikki Foles action and

Speaker 1 treating Nikki

Speaker 1 as a darn good fit. So hopefully this is a good fit, a better fit for Kenny.
And

Speaker 1 he can

Speaker 1 really maximize his potential in Philadelphia now. Kenny and the Steelers, their relationship ended in a little bad blood because

Speaker 1 Kenny is

Speaker 1 saying he preferred to move on. All right.
There we go. Wide receiver Devontae Parker signs a one-year deal with the Eagles.

Speaker 1 That's why Parker spent his first seven seasons in Miami and the last two in New England. If this is the Devontae Parker I know

Speaker 1 that I played against him at,

Speaker 1 no, it can't be. This is the Devontae Parker that was with the Patriots.
Yeah, I thought he was like the Louisville guy I played in college, but I don't think that's him. Yeah, he was Louisville.

Speaker 1 There you go. Got a good memory trip.
Thanks. I don't know how that

Speaker 1 math adds up, but yeah.

Speaker 1 What do you mean?

Speaker 1 He just finished his ninth season. You just finished your 11th season.

Speaker 1 Ooh, seven seasons, then the past two. Yeah.
Yeah, that's him. So you guys just got a deep threat and a guy that can go get the football, man.

Speaker 1 But even more news, Jake the Make Elliott signs a four-year, $24 million contract extension. Holy cow.
Jake the Make. I'm just finding out about this.
$6 million average. There we go, Jake.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Ties him with Justin Tucker for the highest played kicker in NFL history. I didn't know kickers even made that much money.
I'm not going to lie.

Speaker 1 I mean, he's worth worth every penny, especially if you look at the kicks he made in clutch situations last year.

Speaker 1 The Bills game after I false-started twice in a two-minute drill, and he had to kick a 60-yarder to take it into overtime. Very clutch, and uh, very appreciative, Jake.
That's big time.

Speaker 1 No, Jake has been uh an incredible kicker with Philadelphia for a long time, so he deserves every penny of this. He really does, yeah, and couldn't happen to a better teammate, better guy.

Speaker 1 Uh, so happy for Jake, for sure. Way to go, Bubba.
Shout out to Little Bo Peep. Or what's it Little Book? What did they? Chicken Little Cheaty Bird.
Chicken Little Bird. There we go.
Cheater.

Speaker 1 Chicken Little. We talked about Landon Dickerson becoming the highest paid guard in NFL history last week, but he was just asked what he'd buy with his first new contract.

Speaker 1 And he replied, I don't know. I'm a good new lawnmower.

Speaker 2 I'm going to be looking at

Speaker 3 riding.

Speaker 2 Yeah, zero turn.

Speaker 1 Zero turn, baby. Those zero turns are pretty fucking sweet.
Jason, you got a zero turn? I do have a zero turn. You've been on a zero turn.
I have. I didn't know that was a zero turn.

Speaker 1 There are a few things better than being on a zero turn. It is a

Speaker 1 fun afternoon for sure. How fast you got that thing going? I don't know.
I don't think mine has like a mile per hour. It definitely doesn't have a mile per hour thing on it.

Speaker 1 You got to waterboy that thing and tune that thing up. You got to get one of them baseball.
Ooh, sometimes the cops are going to be. You got to get Vicky Valley.
Vicky Valley.

Speaker 1 Sometimes the cops on the street will put one of those things up. One of those

Speaker 1 mile per hour things.

Speaker 1 Just to like gauge traffic.

Speaker 1 You're caught in like a whole different realm right now.

Speaker 1 And she showed me her boobies and I liked them.

Speaker 1 That was a spot-on impression.

Speaker 1 Shout out to Sideboot 55.

Speaker 1 Shout out to Waterboy. Golly.

Speaker 1 I mean, Randy does remind me of

Speaker 1 what's the

Speaker 1 guy that doesn't really.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 give me a Yodo.

Speaker 1 I can't remember that coach's name.

Speaker 1 Landon's a big

Speaker 1 do-it-yourself guy.

Speaker 1 He's a gearhead. He's always working on trucks

Speaker 1 or vehicles of his. Nice.
Loves doing work around the house. He shows me little projects he's done throughout his house that Brooke, his wife, always puts him up to.

Speaker 1 And he acts like he doesn't really want to do it. But in my head, I'm like, dude, you just built a whole set of cabins.
I think you're kind of into this. All right.
So

Speaker 1 this is uh this is beyond a talent at this point no landon's a man well first off let's take it let's take a minute and admire landon's lawn here he's got the diamond pretty impressive diamond cut going on right here looks like a major league baseball uh outfield right here that's pretty damn good man it's gorgeous some good stuff right there shout out to landon man who would have knew he was the he was such the handyman i did he's also got a flamethrower it's pretty dope well now cam has a flamethrower too it's better than landon's yeah dude landon's into all this stuff Whenever I have a question regarding any of it, I ask Landon, and he usually doesn't help me for whatever reason.

Speaker 1 He acts like he doesn't know what he's talking about because I know he does. But it's alright.
Hey, Landon,

Speaker 1 spread the freaking word, man.

Speaker 1 Help a guy out. Congrats, Landon, on your new lawnmower.
And more news around the league.

Speaker 1 Let's move on to some other news around the league.

Speaker 1 Let's do it. Harry Donald announces retirement.

Speaker 1 This is just, I mean, this ain't news. This is like,

Speaker 1 this is sensational news. Is today Aaron Donald Day forever? Listen, I don't do the days.
After 10 years in the league, Rams defensive tackle, Aaron Donald, has officially decided to call it a career.

Speaker 1 And man, what a career it was. What a legendary career, man.
He announced his decision on social media accounts. Cheers to what's next.

Speaker 1 Extending a big thank you to the Rams and all of your fans for your support over these last 10 years. Much love.
This is the most iconic defensive lineman, really,

Speaker 1 since my time in the NFL. Aaron Donald made the Pro Bowl in every year he was in the NFL, all 10 years.
You know the only other player to do that? You. No.

Speaker 1 Barry Sanders. Damn, that's pretty good.
They're the only two players in NFL history to make the Pro Bowl in every single season they played in the NFL. Both 10-year players.
Retired at 10 years.

Speaker 1 But I got to set this record shake because I see a lot of people on social media as they list all of Aaron's sacks against quarterbacks. People are like, never had a sack against the Eagles.

Speaker 1 Like, oh, the Eagles had your number. We double-teamed him and triple-teamed him every single game.
All right.

Speaker 1 He is the only defensive tackle we have ever gone up against where the entire game plan is situated on not having him ruin the game. The only one.
I don't care if it was a five down front.

Speaker 1 I don't care if there's a blitz happening over there. We are double teaming Aaron Donald.
That's the way we played him. There was not another player that was was treated in that light.

Speaker 1 Not a defensive end, not a defensive tackle, nobody. Not even Michael Parsons.
We did help out Micah a lot too. Micah is very good.

Speaker 1 But I'm telling you right now, this guy should have had better numbers.

Speaker 1 It's like, it's crazy to talk about. There were so little times he was blocked one-on-one.
I did see a couple clips of Joe Thune in the Super Bowl. Joe Tooney.

Speaker 1 He got it done twice. I mean, just an absolute bulldog of relentless energy, power, speed, speed, skill.
The guy had everything. In my mind, he's the best defensive player.

Speaker 1 And I don't know that it's particularly close over the last decade. I really don't.

Speaker 1 I got to get this footage of us playing him in Los Angeles back in like 2014 or 15. Yeah.
And I'm...

Speaker 1 outside the hash and he's like let's say it's on the right the ball's on the right hash he's playing nose guard or he's playing he's playing interior line either

Speaker 1 either over the guard or the center. And I'm outside the left hash.
Like

Speaker 1 I'm like a good 10 yards away from the guy. Got it.
On the snap of the ball, he comes in V lines to reroute me and fucking throws me basically off the field. Yeah.
No. I mean, listen.

Speaker 1 Completely fucking ruins the play.

Speaker 1 I come off the field, like, looking at everybody, like, did you guys just see what fucking happened to me? I just got,

Speaker 1 just got abused by somebody I had no idea was coming, and he's the biggest son of a bitch on the field, man. Just an absolute house of a dude, man.

Speaker 1 I mean, it's not even that he's the biggest, it's like he's not that big, bro. What do you mean? The guy, look at the he's chiseled, but he's not.
I mean, I don't think he was over 300 pounds.

Speaker 1 Maybe he was. Like, this is just a dude that was so much more explosive and powerful than anybody else.
It was unreal how good he was. And I really, that's why why I say it.

Speaker 1 Like, this is not a shot at any other defensive player that I played in the league because a lot of them were quite a bit better than me. There's no question about it.

Speaker 1 Like, I don't even like people talking shit to the guy because I'm like, y'all have no fucking clue how good this dude was. Like,

Speaker 1 he didn't have a sack against the Eagles because we were, like, it was the entire game plan. We didn't care about another player on the field.
And that's just the God's honest truth.

Speaker 1 It was, where's 99 at? We're slotted to him. One time this last game, Landon got stuck on him because I thought he was out of the game.

Speaker 1 He kind kind of snuck into a position that I didn't know he was still on the field. He's sneaky.
That's how he got me. He's sneaky.
And Landon said, so we're not going to 99 anymore. One play.

Speaker 1 Guards would go into the games like you could tell during the week. They're like, okay.

Speaker 1 He's over here. We're running over there.
He's over there. We're sliding over there.
Shout out to AD. No, it was unbelievable career, brother.

Speaker 1 Unbelievable. If you want to win one more Super Bowl, just

Speaker 1 we'll probably have some availability somewhere in December. And as for the debate

Speaker 1 for like goat defensive tackle,

Speaker 1 I don't like comparing cross-like

Speaker 1 generations. I think it's too hard.
You know, John Randall, like all of these guys that played inside. John Randall.
John Randall's

Speaker 1 a very infamous defensive tackle, played for the Vikings. But there's been a lot of great defensive tackles.
Warren Sapp.

Speaker 1 I know this. He's the GOAT from when I was in the league.
I firmly believe that. Yeah.
Lastly, Mikey Vrabel's going back to the

Speaker 1 O-H-I-O, baby. Going back to the

Speaker 1 Northeast Ohio.

Speaker 1 He's headed back to Northeast Ohio. And I'm sure.
Walls Jesuits' finest. That's right.
That's right.

Speaker 1 Per Adam Schefter and Field Yates, the Cleveland Browns are hiring former Titans head coach Mike Vrabel as a coaching and personnel consultant, which I think this makes sense because Jim Schwartz, who's the defensive quarter right now, he was just in that position in Tennessee for a couple years before he accepted the Cleveland Browns job last year.

Speaker 1 So now those two get to be reunited in Northeast Ohio. Some plays Coach Frabes is very familiar with.
It's a great 50. Smart dude.
Smart dude, man. He understands all facets of the game.

Speaker 1 To be teamed up with Schwartz. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's going to be dangerous, especially with the players that defense already has.

Speaker 1 You give a guy like Miles Garrett a great coach like that. Not saying that Schwartz or anybody they already have at the D-line position or in that coaching staff isn't good enough.

Speaker 1 But you get Vrabes in there, man. He's making everybody better, man.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I still think there's a situation where Vrabel is not going to add value to being involved in the organization and how much he'll be involved with players or how much he'll just be involved on the back end with Schwartz and the coaches.

Speaker 1 Who knows? Yeah. Like Vrabes has been around everything.
It's so weird. Like he played in the 3-4 New England style defense for the majority of his career.

Speaker 1 Then all of a sudden he's gone to some of these four-down looks. Tennessee's gone to a little bit more of like a four-down defense.

Speaker 1 And now he's with Jim. And it's not only is it a four-down, but it's not like you're, it's not what he didn't.
Like, I mean, he's a two-gap in, big, you know, bow hitting the. Oh, yeah.
I'm coming in.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I'm changing the line of scrimmage here.
Yeah. Now this is the Jim Schwartz jet technique, get off the ball with a phenomenal defensive line.
So,

Speaker 1 yeah, I think this is just another thing that speaks to his versatility as a coach and a defensive uh consultant will uh will add a lot of value there yeah i don't know i don't know how he didn't get a head coaching job i mean organizations

Speaker 1 yeah it's weird silly for him even

Speaker 1 that i don't know i think it's i think it's hilarious um he's a proven leader he's a proven um

Speaker 1 you know proven coach that almost almost loved by his players but still has that that balance of being loved and also holding players accountable he's a phenomenal head coach and you know, it's, it's, it's odd not to see him as a head coach.

Speaker 1 He'll be, he'll do this for who knows how long. And I'm sure there's going to be something that's going to open up

Speaker 1 pretty quick for Coach Frabes. Real quick.

Speaker 1 Mom and dad, mom and mom, dad and dad, whatever. Parents, are you about to spend five hours in the car with your beloved kids this holiday season? Driving to old granny's house? I'm setting the scene.

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All righty, let's get out of the house, Trav. Let's do it.
That's right.

Speaker 1 It's time to talk about everybody's favorite segment. Out of the house.
Out of the house.

Speaker 1 Be careful getting out of the house. You might get a cold.

Speaker 1 Jesus. I got toddlers, Travis.
I've been sick all year. I just hooked up, too.
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Speaker 1 Trav, you got out of the house this past week and went to a new Justin Timberlake concert. Honestly, everybody knows I'm a huge JT fan.

Speaker 1 It's been so cool meeting him out in Tahoe and playing some golf with him. I'm even going to try and get to his golf outing out in Vegas here in a couple weeks.

Speaker 1 But it was cool to show up and see him in his one night only out here in Los Angeles, California. I forget the venue that he was at, but he's got a new album that just came out.

Speaker 1 Everything I thought it was. Make sure you check that thing out.
Yeah, baby. JT always makes unbelievable music.
Yeah, he was playing a bunch of renditions of his old classics. Absolute bangers.

Speaker 1 It was so cool to see him play some of my favorites, man. And then on top of that, a handful of his new stuff, as well as his new hit single with

Speaker 1 In Sync. That's right.

Speaker 1 They teamed back up for a song called Paradise on his new album. So make sure you check out the album.
Check out the new song with

Speaker 1 his boys. Yeah, man, it was a fun, fun evening.
I mean, I can't complain. Anytime you can see Justin Timberlake perform, I suggest

Speaker 1 you get, you, yeah, you buy the ticket, man. He's the fucking best.
All righty, that's it for all the house. Brought to you by Accelerator Active Energy Drink.

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Speaker 1 All right, now let's get to it. Jason's conversation with Lane Johnson and Jordan Mulata from Las Vegas.

Speaker 1 Just for some background, 92%ers, this was taped before Jason made his retirement announcement. So,

Speaker 1 Jason, Lane Jordan, take it away, boys.

Speaker 2 Thanks for joining me. And from Las Vegas, Nevada, the offensive tackle out of Groveton High School, East Texas.

Speaker 2 He was second-team all Big 12 coming out of Oklahoma, the fourth overall pick in the 2013 draft for the Philadelphia Eagles.

Speaker 2 Five-time Pro Bowler, Super Bowl champion, Walter Payton Man of the Year nominee, and your starting right tackle for the Philadelphia Eagles. Please welcome to the show, Mr.
Lane Johnson.

Speaker 2 I love you, Lane. I love you.
And making his second appearance from down under on the New Heights this season, the Australian rugby sensation star of the Eagles Christmas albums.

Speaker 2 And of course, your starting left tackle for the Philadelphia Eagles. Please welcome back, Mr.
Jordan Milana.

Speaker 2 Nice to have me. How's it going, guys? How's Vegas treated you so far?

Speaker 2 Safe, I say good, hey. Safe, I say good.

Speaker 2 We had an interesting night last night.

Speaker 2 We're recovering right now with our IVs and getting ready for another.

Speaker 2 You're nominated for the Walter Payton Man of the Year, largely for, obviously, your openness in dealing with mental health and that space, as well as helping families of veterans.

Speaker 2 Yeah, what's it been like? How's the week been? I know Cam Hayward ended up winning the award, but for those of you that don't know, only 32 people get nominated across the entire NFL every season.

Speaker 2 Each team gets one person. Lane Johnson was the Eagles nominee this year, long overdue.

Speaker 2 What's it been like? No, it was cool.

Speaker 2 Got to meet the Payton family. Talked to all the guys.
And then yesterday, so it's the day of the ceremony. Everybody's wondering, you know, who's who? Yeah.

Speaker 2 Because usually you get time to prepare a speech. And so apparently Cam, when he got called, there was no speech ready.
So he went up there. So he didn't know.
He didn't know.

Speaker 2 I thought that they at least tell the guy who wins. So he's got something for that, too.
That's a good third. And this year it was complete surprise.
So shout out to Cam.

Speaker 2 Yeah, about being put on the spot.

Speaker 2 Being put on the spot that was impressive and the winner for those the winner gets announced at nfl honors how's nfl honors was it pretty good no it was cool it's vegas it should be a pretty good event you know they had a nice little vip set up uh got to meet the guys kiki michael key hosted it yeah so yeah i got talked to him but yeah i just got to see a lot of the guys legends walking around uh got to see bruce smith last night so just you know julius peppers hey he's he's he might be three four year now he's huge i have never seen julius peppers outside of football but but on a football field, he was the largest human being in all these cats.

Speaker 2 Crazy plus. His head was enormous.
It's crazy how he was able to play basketball at North Carolina, too.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Like,

Speaker 2 he had to be weighed. What did he weigh when he played basketball, you think? Oh, he looked like a 270? Yeah, 270, 280.
Bruce Smith was giving me crap for taking my shirt off in Buffalo.

Speaker 2 He didn't like it. He didn't like it.
Whoa.

Speaker 2 Yeah. He's like, I didn't like that anyway.
Nobody takes your shirt off except me.

Speaker 2 Fucking Jim Kelly. And then, Jordy, when'd you get in?

Speaker 2 Tuesday night. Tuesday night? Yeah.
You're obviously feeling a lot better than Lane. Lane and I have IVs in, for those of you that can't see or didn't notice.

Speaker 2 We're in Vegas and it's all about health here. So we decided to make sure that we're nice and hydrated.
Jordy's just going for pure adrenaline. I didn't drink.
Pure caffeine.

Speaker 2 I didn't drink enough, so I just need a little pick-me-up. So

Speaker 2 thank you, Accelerator. There we go.
Let's start off with this. Lane,

Speaker 2 can you tell the world once and for all why you are always false starting? Oh my God.

Speaker 2 My coach tells me this.

Speaker 2 He's so God.

Speaker 2 I think all the 49ers fans out there are chopping at the bit to ask this question.

Speaker 2 So coming into the league, I all saw his articles with false start, me getting away with it, and I was like, it's about to be a long season. Yeah.
And then I guess they mistook me for Juwan Taylor.

Speaker 2 Shout out in the Super Bowl, Juan Taylor. Yeah.
As you know, if we're laid off the ball, the defense of the man likes to get the tackle turned, and then a lot of bad things happen.

Speaker 2 So if we're not, you know, 100-meter dash, that first 10, 20 isn't looking good, you're going to lose the race. So that's how I see it.
When I got here, JP was the master at it.

Speaker 2 I was always slow, and they never called him, but he, you know, he had a good way of talking to the brain.

Speaker 2 One of the biggest mistakes that every young player makes is not getting off on the snap count. And that's your, any rookie.
Like style of putting lane on the spot. That's what I'm learning.

Speaker 2 You put in, you learned it from JP, like you said. Yeah, but the most important thing for any player is getting off on the snap.

Speaker 2 Would you think doing all these reps for 10 years with one person might you might have an advantage over the defense? I think so.

Speaker 2 I think so. Yeah.
This is so cool. The other thing that drives me crazy, especially with you, is when they do it in slow motion.
Because when you do it in slow motion, it looks like it's a worse

Speaker 2 difference than, but when you watch it in real time, most people can't tell it. They need to just put a laser on my foot and a laser on your hand.
And that's going to be the best way to do it.

Speaker 2 Yeah, if you wanted to legitimately try and do that, but yeah, there's about five of them. I got away with Tampa Bay earlier.

Speaker 2 So there's one in there was one in the San Francis game where I was actually late. You were on time on the snap,

Speaker 2 which that probably would have been a false. For everybody out there, if you're late off the snap, it doesn't matter what you know,

Speaker 2 what you can do, you're done. You got to keep the defensive ben in front of you if you want to block them.
Yeah, once he gets to your edge,

Speaker 2 you're fucked. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah, short pocket booze,

Speaker 2 sell signs in your house.

Speaker 2 Who's the hardest guy you guys have had to block?

Speaker 2 Who's the best? And what makes him the best? Vaughn, Micah. I didn't say Micah.
Micah took another step this year. He's been great, but he's been better.
He's slippery, dude. Yeah.
Slippery.

Speaker 2 I think just like the best is Miles. Just because

Speaker 2 he can move like a Parsons, but he's 280. And when you see some of how it's been and his angles, he can get to, it's like, whoa, he looks like something from another planet.

Speaker 2 Would you rather play a player with incredible speed and agility

Speaker 2 or a player with incredible power? Which one

Speaker 2 is the one you'd rather face? I would rather face power. Yeah.
Yeah. Power.
Because you know what they're going to get, and then eventually

Speaker 2 they do wear down by the end of the game, so it's not as effective. Yeah.
Most guys, well, that's the other thing. Yeah, you can only do power so much.
So much.

Speaker 2 And so once it's speed, it can happen every time yeah most guys don't have power and speed to like that extent like if you have extreme power

Speaker 2 usually that's your that's what you're doing miles go both that's what i'm saying there's two guys that can miles miles get oh yeah a few guys that can set the edge and be a clear pass rusher like i think cam jordan was a was a great example yes all those years just yes he was 290 was doing all these things dwight freeny just got inducted into the hall of fame

Speaker 2 congratulations dwight yeah speaking of dwight

Speaker 2 my shoes were untied on the playoff You tied them up.

Speaker 2 He tied them up with a spin move.

Speaker 2 I wound down on the ground to touch my toes. I'll just stop my shoes.

Speaker 2 That is

Speaker 2 funny as hell. All right, let's get to your guys' paths to the NFL.
Jordan, when you were on last time,

Speaker 2 we talked about your path. Lane, you also had an interesting path to the NFL.
Let's talk about your journey. You started with the Eagles in 2013, but before that, you didn't just start at Oklahoma.

Speaker 2 You started at Juco. You were a quarterback in high school.
You ended up moving off into line, what, your sophomore or junior year?

Speaker 2 Junior year. What was that like? What was that transition like? Yeah, so the quarterback,

Speaker 2 you know, I got that offer from Kilgore. I got an offer from Rice.

Speaker 2 Rice went into big football school, so I wanted to go to Kilgore to try to go to Division I. Then once I got to Oklahoma,

Speaker 2 I was a tight end right away. And so that was probably my toughest transition because I went from QB and then I'm in training camp with the team and I don't know anything.
I'm just getting tossed.

Speaker 2 You know, you have Gerald McCoy out there, Trent,

Speaker 2 Sam. And so, yeah,

Speaker 2 first year was tough when I red-shirted. And then like my second year, like I played some tight end, then I got moved to DN.

Speaker 2 And then during that spring is when I moved to tackle to my junior year.

Speaker 2 So when I moved, I felt like it was natural. I felt like it was basketball to me.

Speaker 2 Howard Mudd, one of the first things you always said, pass blocking is just playing basketball.

Speaker 2 And so when I was growing up, I saw, I mean, I played primarily basketball, and then I got serious spell football in high school. Well, primarily you were a redneck, right?

Speaker 2 Yeah, exactly. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 2 What is it about Juco?

Speaker 2 I've never talked to you about this. What is it about Juco that makes guys, like, I don't know if loyal is the right word.
I feel like everybody that went to Juco,

Speaker 2 went on to a big university or went on to play in the NFL, they speak. more about their time at Juco than even their time at university.
Probably you see like as talented players as Division I.

Speaker 2 like a lot of them are division one transfers can't make the grades yeah so a lot of talented athletes but i think the thing is it's just a damn survival pretty much there the coaches are all trying to be somewhere else everybody else is trying to be somewhere else and you're there for a few short months and um

Speaker 2 yeah i mean it's just chaos i mean what was the netflix deal that uh last chance you yeah so it's literally like that it's a lot like that now some are ran a lot better you know coaches aren't acting like that yeah well somebody else would kick that yeah exactly.

Speaker 2 But very competitive.

Speaker 2 But yeah, just guys are trying to, you know, obviously it's a stopping point of where they're trying to be. So, yeah, it's stressful.
My first game was against Jason Pierre, Paul, and Levante David.

Speaker 2 In Juco, in Juco. They played for Fort Scott.
Now, you're playing quarterback then. I was playing quarterback.
How'd that go? Yeah.

Speaker 2 So we look at the depth chart. Do you have some good tackles? So we look at the depth chart.
It says DN 66280. I said, what the fuck? Am I about to walk up here?

Speaker 2 And that's when he was doing all the somersaults. So he he did 21.
He probably had about 21 pressures that game, too. But yeah, man, it was fun.
A lot of tremendous athletes.

Speaker 2 I feel like the skill athletes, receivers all transfer well. The line's a little bit, you know, not as good.
But

Speaker 2 skilled athletes are, you know, pretty common. Well, you moved to offensive line, Oklahoma.
What did you, how did you feel about, I know you said you felt natural at playing the position.

Speaker 2 I didn't, but I feel like

Speaker 2 there's a mentality of the offensive line. How did you fit in with the room? How'd you feel?

Speaker 2 Well, I just remember after playing all the skill position, I remember being in practice and watching these dickheads sit there with their, I'm like, these guys here have the fucking life. And so

Speaker 2 the lineman, this is back when I was playing tight end. Like, I'm running all these routes and I'm looking at all these guys just blocking rest.

Speaker 1 And then... You fell for it.

Speaker 2 Yeah, so initially when I moved,

Speaker 2 you fucking. Yeah, I mean,

Speaker 2 yeah, I fell for it.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I didn't mind the change. I went playing, and then I started to play.

Speaker 2 And then, yeah, just pass pro was like, pass blocking to me and then um one of my buddies gabe he he was uh tied in when he got there moved to center yeah so went from like sick you know 260 to 300 yeah so that was really

Speaker 2 you went from 260 to 30

Speaker 2 um yeah so i was probably like 280 so i was already big and then yeah i started pass setting so i wouldn't even start and go into my junior season the um daryl williams he ended up playing like eight or nine years in the league ended up getting sprained his ankle Yeah, and then so I finished that game.

Speaker 2 Then my first start was against Florida State.

Speaker 2 That's a good one. I had a rough first half.

Speaker 2 Do you know remember who you're playing?

Speaker 2 Bjorn Warner was the

Speaker 2 end. So I had a rough first half.
And then after that,

Speaker 2 did well. But I remember when I was interviewing the Chiefs.
I was interviewing with the Chiefs and they were turning on

Speaker 2 my worst players. And they started playing.
It's like,

Speaker 2 what's going on here? I said, it looks like I'm getting my fucking ass flipped.

Speaker 2 They liked that answer. That was at the combine.
That was at the combine. So yeah, so is this like a is this like a you decision to go to the O-line or like do the coaches to the team? Yeah, it's me.

Speaker 2 You know, I was going to be a rotational guy at DN, and so

Speaker 2 I should play. Yeah, our other starter tour is,

Speaker 2 you know, MCO, ACL, and so there was nobody really there. And so it just came natural and then

Speaker 2 moved to left my

Speaker 2 senior season. I had Trent there, I had Donald Stevenson, so I had some good players.
So, yeah. No, I never thought I'd be playing O-line.
Probably like you, you know, going

Speaker 2 to college as a linebacker. Yeah.
You know, it's what, you know, it's one of the last positions you ever think you're going to play. Yeah.
When you got to Philadelphia, you drafted the fourth round.

Speaker 2 What are your first impressions of Philadelphia? That's kind of a scary city.

Speaker 2 No, I'm just talking about the fans are intimidating. Yeah.
I don't know. You see a big mob like that, all that energy.
You're just like, damn, I want them on my side.

Speaker 2 And then, you know, the more you play and the more they see your personality and what you're about, then you win them over. Yeah.

Speaker 2 But, you know you got to put in your your due time yep um but yeah no obviously i was i was happy about coming here thought i was going to go to the dolphins uh had a good workout with stout that was interesting what dolphins were third pick third pick yeah so they took deon yep but i thought chip was going to try to get deon i think that's what they're trying to do so you thought they were going to trade up get deon yours yeah but yeah i mean got in i had a lot of great vets some interesting characters and

Speaker 2 been there ever since what

Speaker 2 what were your first speaking of vets or i guess i wasn't a vet at that time but what were your first impressions of me first of all i saw your hair i was like whoa i like the hair

Speaker 2 long hair inside the beard he had the good beard i know your first impressions of travis were

Speaker 2 i saw his hair i was like he looks like phyl and deal from the rug rat

Speaker 2 you know what i'm talking about yes yes because i didn't know he kind of came in late to the combine yeah i saw you i think yeah uh so it was otas and we were doing some drill and i I saw you fucking throw your helmet like a discus.

Speaker 2 Yeah. And I said, hey, I like this guy.

Speaker 2 I like this guy's intensity for the game.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but like with every great player,

Speaker 2 there's always traits. Guys, the reason why they're so good is because they have an undeniable passion for the game.

Speaker 2 There's a certain intensity about them that they have to be this certain player and there's no other way.

Speaker 2 But we had a lot of those guys. We did.
And so the culture was set. They had guys before them.

Speaker 2 So I feel like just the culture that I came into was really good, whereas a lot of rookies don't get that.

Speaker 2 Jordy, you came in in 2018? Yep. What were your first impressions of Lane?

Speaker 2 I didn't know what to expect

Speaker 2 walking into an NFL locker room. But when I met Lane, I thought he was the funniest motherfucker in the world.

Speaker 2 You doing what you want? You just being yourself. Just bringing like...

Speaker 2 We're going to get to it.

Speaker 2 I'm just going to start rattling off guys, and I'm going to start letting you just first thing that comes to your head. There's nobody

Speaker 2 on the planet

Speaker 2 that can freaking do look-alikes like doppelgangers, like accents. Yeah,

Speaker 2 impressions. It's impressive.
It's a very useless knowledge.

Speaker 2 See what I mean?

Speaker 2 This is what I walked into, and it's got me in stitches. My current be mathematics.

Speaker 2 You know your angles. I pick my angle and I run.
I pick my angle and I kick set. You just talked about

Speaker 2 what makes a great trait for every offensive lineman and intensity and passion for the game.

Speaker 2 Somebody that has tremendous passion, intensity, that was also in the room, that really set the tone for the room and still sets the tone for the room is Jeff Stoutlin.

Speaker 2 This is an Eagles offensive line podcast, and it wouldn't be complete without talking about Stout. When did you first meet Stout, Lane?

Speaker 2 I met him at the,

Speaker 2 I think I might have met the Kanban. And so, you know, he's doing the ankles, you know, asking all these questions.
You did the test. Did the test? And then, yeah.

Speaker 2 And then, so when I really got to really meet him, was whenever he came to my hometown, we have one cafe there.

Speaker 2 You have one cafe? Yeah. Like, what's it called? Two cafes now.
The county seat cafe. County seat.
Because it's right by the courthouse. What's the best thing on the right by the courthouse?

Speaker 2 Probably chicken. I mean, they have everything.
But what's your favorite thing? I like chicken fried steak. They'll have green beans, mashed potatoes, gravy.
It's the regular diner. It's great.

Speaker 2 Texas toast. Regular southern diner.
Anything to make your blood pressure go higher and what it just red on that

Speaker 2 so yeah he came in he's like yeah your town's got fucking dirty spoons bro

Speaker 2 and then my stepdad's up

Speaker 2 it was like a real life my cousin Vinny yeah

Speaker 2 and then as you know he gets on the board and uh what's this what's this erase it and I draw it up that's not what I drew up

Speaker 2 and we then we go outside and do the drills and all that was um you know all that was fun but yeah so yeah, Winchester's with me then.

Speaker 2 My buddy, who's a long snap for the Chiefs. So, he was out of the league for like two years.
And I was like, stout, this guy,

Speaker 2 this guy can snap the ball pretty good.

Speaker 2 So, Dornboss gets hurt in the preseason, and then Winchester comes in.

Speaker 2 He goes to Kansas Sydney. He's been there for a while.
That's awesome. Yeah.

Speaker 2 When I'm trying to describe a stout meeting, it's like

Speaker 2 Robert, no, Al Pacino on any given Sunday, the locker room speech where they run out. Every meeting is intense.

Speaker 2 And then pop quiz time, he'll ask questions. Cold questioning.
When you're in a cold question,

Speaker 2 he likes to call Landon a lot because Landon, sometimes he'll know it, then sometimes he'll be playing. He calls Landon a lot because Landon's on his phone.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 And he can see. Stout's like

Speaker 2 that teacher in the front of the class. Yeah.
That

Speaker 2 you think you're getting away with it.

Speaker 2 But he's got eyes in the back of his head and he can tell. And he's just going to be, you know, all right,

Speaker 2 this week we got a dice right.

Speaker 2 What are our kills out of our dice right plays? Landon. And then Landon pop his head up.

Speaker 2 We got.

Speaker 2 You don't call on Fred.

Speaker 2 He has a condition. Whatever you did in that first meeting, you nailed it.

Speaker 2 Yeah, no, I was a good athlete. That's what they were looking for.
Stout before the draft. Like, even,

Speaker 2 you know, we knew we were picking fourth, but you know,

Speaker 2 I didn't know if you had any input or if you were looking at guys in. I watched your combine.
The 40 gets the big number, and you ran an unbelievable 40. You ran a 471.
It's more about the two alley.

Speaker 2 It's more about the 2000.

Speaker 2 I think 40s are so, and everybody knows this. It's so overrated for offensive linemen.
But watching your lateral movement, watching your feet,

Speaker 2 you are the most fluid.

Speaker 2 And, you know, I like fluid athleticism. And I think when you see a big guy, as big as you were, be able to move as fast fast and as smooth as you are,

Speaker 2 that's a, you know, you got, I mean,

Speaker 2 it ain't that hard, right? Like, that's a, those are good traits to have. And I think that you had a great, often, you had a great offensive tackle class.

Speaker 2 There was a Joe Cole Fisher, you, was Armstead the same year as you? Armstead was there. Yeah.
Bakhtiari was there. Yeah.

Speaker 2 So there was, there was a lot of great players, but I remember in particular, Stout

Speaker 2 and I talking about you right after the combine. And yeah, I didn't have any input.
We were just. Yeah, Lonnie was in on that too.
So he's just, he's all about guys that can persevere, go

Speaker 2 through adversity. It's like you, JP,

Speaker 2 him, any guys that has any sort of, you know, different background to him, I think he likes. But far as me, like us, you can get a guy on the field and tell if he can play.

Speaker 2 Like an OTA, he's in about five minutes, two minutes. I mean, I feel like the guys that are a little bit more...

Speaker 2 If a guy's going to be a beast, it's pretty evident quit. Jalen Carter,

Speaker 2 first pass rep. like, all right, here we got boys.
Senator's Day. He's been landing.
Landon was hurt, but you could, well, first of all, he's in there fucking throwing around 405. Yeah, when he was

Speaker 2 hanging cleaning 405 and like jumping while he's doing it.

Speaker 2 Any guy that has back hair that you can grab,

Speaker 2 you can probably hang clean over 300. You're going to be strong as shit.

Speaker 2 Jordan, you did an impression of stout when he was on Lane. I think it's only fair that you give it a try.

Speaker 2 Let's see your impression game, Lane.

Speaker 2 Stout? Stout.

Speaker 2 I love Jeff McClane.

Speaker 2 I don't know, Jeff. I don't know.
That's a, you know. Shout out to Jeff McClain.

Speaker 2 You got to put that clip on. Yeah,

Speaker 2 there's an old press conference with stout

Speaker 2 talk and doing that exact quote. We got to find that one.
We'll see how accurate that impression was, which I think was pretty darn accurate.

Speaker 1 I love Jeff McClain.

Speaker 2 I don't know, Jeff.

Speaker 2 I don't know. What am I?

Speaker 2 I don't know what happened. I can teach a six-man protection as good as anybody.
I know how to teach a six-man protection as good as anybody. What's your next story going to be, Jeff?

Speaker 2 And the one after that. What's your next story going to be, Jeff?

Speaker 2 After this one, what's the next one?

Speaker 2 We've been with Stout for

Speaker 2 10 years, 11 years.

Speaker 2 Damn. Yeah, you've been with him your entire career.

Speaker 2 But there are some new coaches. What do you guys think about

Speaker 2 the changes made this offseason? You know, the guys that are coming in. Have you talked to any of the new guys yet? I have, I haven't seen him.
I know Vic Fangio is like we knew Vic from Joe.

Speaker 2 He was like, Yeah, stouted

Speaker 2 that's the deepest corner. I feel like they're gonna be best friends.
They were best friends when he was here for the nails.

Speaker 2 They golfed, and yeah, it's like, dude, Paisons, it'll be good for both of those guys, no question. Uh, I ran into Kellen, you ran to Kellen, yeah.
He ran to Kellen. What did he sell you?

Speaker 2 I was just chatting with him,

Speaker 2 Just small talk, like, when did you get in? How long were you here for? So, nothing ball related. Nothing ball related.
Well, how'd he come off?

Speaker 2 I mean, as outgoing as he can be. He did speak to Stout, though.
So then I went to go see Stout. And when I went out to see Stout, they were both in

Speaker 2 the room together. Okay.
In his office. I think they were getting chat and ball right away.
So I just said hi and I got out of there because I don't want to chat wildly. Hey, man.
It's too soon.

Speaker 2 Too soon. They're back at it.
They're already back at it. All right.
So that's good signs. The great signs.
All right. We're going to get straight to it.
We got minimal time left.

Speaker 2 Lane's got a full docket this week. This is probably the fun portion of the show.
We got to ask, but you don't have to answer. We have to ask all of our guests these questions.

Speaker 2 But again, you don't have to answer. What is your welcome to the NFL moment?

Speaker 2 Justin Houston. Yeah, I remember that game.

Speaker 2 We won. No, we didn't.
We didn't beat the Chiefs. No, you're right.
We never beat beat the Chiefs.

Speaker 2 This year was the first time. Yeah, him.
I just kept hearing punch, punch. I went out there and punched nothing.
Who was telling you to punch? Trey Thomas. Big Trey.
Throw them hands, dog.

Speaker 2 Had about two or three seconds. I think it was three.

Speaker 2 Michael Vickers out there just getting his ass blasted. I'm going, man.
I'm sorry. Yeah.

Speaker 2 He was good. He went on to have like 22 and a half seconds.
Yeah, it turns out it was like, what is it? The third or fourth game of the year. It was early.

Speaker 2 And everybody, Lane's all down on himself. And then he went to beat the shit out of every every other tackle in the NFL that year.

Speaker 2 Yeah,

Speaker 2 Justin Houston for sure. Strong as shit.
What did you guys think of the Dipadots freezer? What's your favorite flavor? What's the

Speaker 2 banana one? That's my favorite banana split.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Cookies and cream.

Speaker 2 And then what's that? Chocolate chip cookie dough.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Cookie dough, yeah.
Me and Landon house those. We're crushing the cookie doughs.
I was wondering why I couldn't get any. What else should we get in there? What else could the O-line room use?

Speaker 2 A fucking six, a fucking cooler full of beer and give us some. Kegorita.
Yeah. Kegorita looking.

Speaker 2 I don't think stout's going to go for that one. I feel like we need to rearrange the O-line room.
We all need to have like Normatech sit on the floor. We could be recovering.

Speaker 2 You don't like the massage chair that doesn't work?

Speaker 2 I had zero massages.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 You kept putting a foam. I agree.
We got to change up the

Speaker 2 feng shui of the room. Make it like a kindergarten class.
Make little tables. I don't give a damn, but it's got to change.
Okay, maybe. You never even sit in your chair.
I know.

Speaker 2 We don't need to be sitting like I can already, I can sit on the table. I can barely fit on the damn table right now, man.
We don't need to make it smaller.

Speaker 2 We don't need to make it smaller. I can barely fit on the damn table and chair now.

Speaker 2 Who would each of your dream performers be to get on the Eagles Christmas album? You can have anybody. Anybody.
Marvin Gaye. Marvin Gaye.
Yeah. Is he still alive? No.
Okay. That's going to be tough.

Speaker 2 Marvin Gaye.

Speaker 2 My audience's alive. Dang.
It's going to be tough. He's dead.

Speaker 2 Dude, somebody who can compliment us.

Speaker 2 You can't just put like. What about somebody different, like Post Malone? What would you do? It's going to be fucking really good.
I like stuff like that. Oh, yeah.
Post Malone.

Speaker 2 I like doing stuff that's way different. Yeah.
Post Malone would do something good. If we're going dead, I mean, I got to you.
Yo, Frank's an outro.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Lane, did you try any Australian candy that Jordan brought to the locker room? I didn't know there was candy.
I couldn't get through the fucking boxes

Speaker 2 to get to to get some candy.

Speaker 2 They're still there. The box is still there's

Speaker 2 bro no but i've like some australian candy what's so

Speaker 2 what's so uh

Speaker 2 i got some oh it's just different i don't know the diff different different sugars different different cultures less different ingredients less think of like u.s candy yeah but just half the ingredients think of u.s candy but like half as good okay

Speaker 2 off no way there's no way bro american candy might be the most overrated candy in the world Well, that might be a hot take, but I'll stand it.

Speaker 2 It's overrated because it's the greatest country in the world. So it's got high standards.

Speaker 2 I might agree with that.

Speaker 2 Nice.

Speaker 2 The positive, but the first one, the candy, I can't give you that. I'll give you the greatest country in the world.
I won't give you the candy. All right, I'll take that.
Pick one.

Speaker 2 You guys can have the candy for the greatest country in the world. I'll take that.
Jordy, are you familiar with the Australian cartoon that has become an American station? Bluey. You got it.

Speaker 2 Can you name all the characters? I cannot. What's the main character? It's got to be fucking Bluey because if it happens.
That is. It's Goo.

Speaker 2 Okay. Hell yeah.
Bluey was. Do you watch this? Have you watched this with the kids? Bluey, gooey? No.
I feel like your kids were a little bit older once this really started getting big. Yeah.

Speaker 2 We watched Blaze, Blippy.

Speaker 2 What's the

Speaker 2 Paw Patrol? Yeah. Mickey Mouse Clubhouse back in the day.
You were big, Mickey Mouse Clubhouse. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I feel like all the dads keep saying, Miscome, Misconfund. Mickey Mouse.
Yeah. I don't have kids yet.
I have a niece, though.

Speaker 2 We're out of that for right now, but it's going to happen again once Bennett gets a little bit older. Do you guys claim Tyco Watiti, even though he's New Zealander? Honestly, I don't think they do.

Speaker 2 They don't? No? Yeah, because he's like... It's

Speaker 2 the ones that are borderline like me. Yeah.
Who are actually Kiwis, but they say they're Australian. You fucked up.

Speaker 2 Have you gotten your citizenship yet? Did we get that done? I think I tried to.

Speaker 2 What are you doing, man?

Speaker 2 Pouring gasoline on the fire like that. I'm asking damn questions.

Speaker 2 He's the one asking questions. That's the moment.
We're the guests. That's the moment asking questions.

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 2 Short and simple, no. Because I need to go home for that.
And I'm going home

Speaker 2 and not any time shit.

Speaker 2 All right, cool. I've answered this, but the 92% want to know your takes.
What is it like being on the bottom of the tush push?

Speaker 2 You guys usually aren't on the bottom. You're on the angle.
You're on the top. He's never at the bottom.
Have you seen the film? Who? He's at the back. He's behind

Speaker 2 the whole pile. Lane's just kind of skimming the ball.
Lane does the whole like, hey, I'm going to get behind everybody here.

Speaker 2 He's a veteran move.

Speaker 2 He knows what he's doing. Son of a gun.
Just shuffle.

Speaker 2 I feel bad for sometimes.

Speaker 2 Most of the time, it's Landon and Kelsey,

Speaker 2 for sure. You just have 100 pounds of time.

Speaker 2 The one time I was at the bottom.

Speaker 2 Dude, the one time I was at the bottom, the one time it happened, I had Landon, and I had Kelse on top of me. I was like, what the fuck? I was like, God damn it, I can't breathe.

Speaker 2 And and he goes, that happens to me every time. That's every single place.
That's every single place. Landon

Speaker 2 has little lobster eyes at the bottom of the pile. You just see the little spikes.

Speaker 2 I asked Chris or Bo this, what are your guys' favorite? What's your favorite bar? Let's open it like this. What's your favorite bar or restaurant in Philadelphia?

Speaker 2 I know you're going to say Lone Star.

Speaker 2 Barclay Prime.

Speaker 2 You like Lone Star. What?

Speaker 1 Or is it Outback?

Speaker 2 What's the spot there in Columbus?

Speaker 2 Longhorn. Longhorn.
I used to eat there a lot when I lived close by. Yeah.
And one time we went and got the. This dude, we went to this place.
This is the steakhouse. So you can't get steak.

Speaker 2 I'm going to tell you right now: get the chicken fingers. I'm like, what the fuck are you just saying? Kids meal.
This chicken finger was fucking really good.

Speaker 2 Why would you get this, you dick me?

Speaker 2 Okay, I'll have some too.

Speaker 2 It was great. You guys, any great stories that you

Speaker 2 like? I got one.

Speaker 2 This is why I didn't date for, I didn't date anybody in high school. So same here.
Eighth grade birthday party.

Speaker 2 Late Bloomer. Late Bloomer.
Late Bloomer. I invite 25 people, 75 people from the school show up.
75 people from your school showed up? Yeah, this is before I moved to school. You're popular.

Speaker 2 Very popular. Yeah.

Speaker 2 So we were doing things big.

Speaker 2 That's like the whole school in East Texas.

Speaker 2 So we had jet skis, we had boats, we had a double-decker boathouse. I thought you grew up in a trailer.
There were jet skis. What the fuck? What's going on? This is before high school.

Speaker 2 I was in a house

Speaker 2 from kindergarten to eighth grade. And then I went to high school.
Then I got went to the trailer. So you downgraded to the trailer? Downgraded.
What happened that made you go to the trailer?

Speaker 2 Mom got remarried. We were in the house we were at, and we moved to a new town and promised to get a new house.

Speaker 2 And then we ended up getting a house later. It was polyester curtains and the redwood dick.
Sammy Kershaw was up there drinking beer with me. So anyways,

Speaker 2 my girlfriend at the time, you know, never really kissed a girl before. Don't know what's going on.
And so she has her best friend. How old are you? I'm 12, probably.
12. 12, 13.

Speaker 2 He's a full-ass, grown-ass man. And so they're like, her friend's like kissing and making out, you know, over there in the corner.
So she's trying to match. And then, okay.
So we end up kissing. Okay.

Speaker 2 Big sister. Nice to meet you.
How was it? It was awkward. Wait.

Speaker 2 It was awkward.

Speaker 2 You know, every misstep, she's going to go to the lobby and tell everybody how terrible you are. Yeah.

Speaker 2 So she goes, do you want to to go to the to your room? I'm like, That's weird. We've parties out here.
Well, you know, why would we want to go? Why would you want to go to my room?

Speaker 2 So, we make that long walk to my room, walk in my room. Next thing I know, before I turn around, she's like,

Speaker 2 you know, getting ready, jumps on my jumps on my lap, and starts making out, kissing.

Speaker 2 I panic, I have a full-blown panic attack. I would too.
Somebody attacked me like that. Throw her off, put her on the bed,

Speaker 2 go and grab NFL Blitz, Nintendo 64.

Speaker 2 And she goes, What the hell is the matter with you, please?

Speaker 2 Next week at school, the whole school knows.

Speaker 2 What were they doing? It was awkward.

Speaker 2 It was like in a Disney movie with her all at the locker, just like doing this. I'm like,

Speaker 2 this son of a bitch told everybody.

Speaker 2 And then luckily, I went to a new high school the next following year.

Speaker 2 I think we all have similar stories. Every time you you tell that story,

Speaker 2 I had

Speaker 2 never failed. I don't think I've told my version of that.
It wasn't as funny as that, but I was at Homecoming Dance with a girl that I liked

Speaker 1 freshman year, high school.

Speaker 2 Did you ask her to dance? I mustered up the courage to ask her to dance, but it was after all of her friends told me that she was into me. You know, it was all that.
So I was pretty confident.

Speaker 2 We're dancing, having a good time, and she's like, oh, you want to go to the dugout? I'm like, why don't we go to the dugout? We're having fun dancing right now.

Speaker 2 I thought we liked baseball.

Speaker 2 Not even in the baseball. There's not even a game going on.

Speaker 2 Oh, man.

Speaker 2 We were cool, man.

Speaker 2 You guys are the best, man. You guys are the best.

Speaker 2 We got to do a rapid fire.

Speaker 2 You got to do your doppelganger, like, impress. Like,

Speaker 2 who does Pam Mahomes look like?

Speaker 2 Man, I'm trying to think.

Speaker 2 I can tell you one people I do know.

Speaker 2 I go. Stout looks like Gino Oriema.
Yeah. Yeah.
It's a good call. I'm trying to think of some other guys.
I know I'm putting you on the spot here.

Speaker 2 Goddard looks like the Got Cocade, man, when it takes off.

Speaker 2 Oh, my God. Can you imagine coming to a lucker room with this guy?

Speaker 2 That's so accurate. Ferrari's like Mike Wazowski from Monster Z.
Soli is Dom.

Speaker 2 Give us some more look-alikes. Connor kind of looks like like the Kramer a little bit.
He got dead on Kramer. That was actually a picture that somebody had made with Connor as Kramer.

Speaker 2 He kind of looks like the boxer from like,

Speaker 2 was it Cinderella Man? Yeah.

Speaker 2 Russell Crow. Russell Crow fight.
Yeah,

Speaker 2 I'd have to get some time, but

Speaker 2 definitely got some good ones. Sorry, guys.
I couldn't reveal all my talents. No, it's good.
It's good. It was good.
It was good. You nailed it.
Do you got any good stories?

Speaker 2 Not as good as those, bro. Those are premiere stories.
So you just.

Speaker 2 I was a boring kid, bro. You just...
The first girl you hooked up with went perfectly fine, and you were just smooth as shit. No, it wasn't smooth as shit.
No, it wasn't as awkward as that. Fuck.

Speaker 2 I mean, Jesus Christ. Guys,

Speaker 2 first awkward. Thank God you guys said that all right.
The school dance was the first awkward thing.

Speaker 2 You got the, you know, everybody's country songs, and then they put the rap songs in there, and you get the chaperones too close, too close, too close.

Speaker 2 All the guys are over there. You're going to talk to her? Are you going to talk? No, no.

Speaker 2 I'm going to chill over there. And then nobody's really dancing.
Then they put on the song.

Speaker 2 To the lift, to the left, to the right. That's like everybody's initiation.
And everybody's, oh, I can do this. That back two times.

Speaker 2 That's it.

Speaker 2 That's the initiation of dance to the average white man.

Speaker 2 Yeah, we didn't listen to that stuff.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah. What was your.

Speaker 2 Like, I didn't know. I never went out.

Speaker 2 I was a good kid. I could not even tell you an Australian song.

Speaker 2 We definitely listened to American songs. We just, I never went out.
You ever listened to Keith Urban? I mean, he's an Australian.

Speaker 2 I know there's never went out when I was underage, but once I got to 18, that's when wait, what we went out, yeah. You never went out wherever parties, like any house parties.

Speaker 2 You never went to a dance until you were over 18. The dances that we had, yeah, I didn't go to a formal

Speaker 1 way.

Speaker 2 You guys didn't. You, I know you went to church and you sang at church.
Nobody danced to church. You can't dance at church.

Speaker 2 You ever been to the south? You dancing, they can dance to some churches now. Dance in the jail.

Speaker 2 Thank you for joining us in this episode.

Speaker 2 All right. We gotta wrap it.
All right, guys. Hey, thank you for joining.
Big shout out to Lane and Jordan for showing up. We're going to go continue our debauchery in Las Vegas.
Let's go, baby.

Speaker 2 It is the rhythm of the night.

Speaker 2 Oh, my. Shout out to Kaylee.
Oh, nice.

Speaker 1 And that wraps up a new episode of New Heights. Thank you so much.
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Speaker 1 You watch any new TV shows recently? I have. You want to get into it?

Speaker 1 Jason, you got to watch Love is Blind, man. It is the worst trash ever.
It's worse than catching Kelsey, but it is so fucking good.

Speaker 1 Honestly, I just want you to watch the one girl and to just hear her. Not watching.
Oh my God, Jason, please. No, I'm not watching that trash.

Speaker 1 I'm not encouraging Netflix or any of these other subscription channels to make any more of this nonsense bullshit. I'm coming to Philly.
We're going to watch together. I'm coming.

Speaker 1 I'm clingy. I'm clingy.

Speaker 1 Really?