1790 - "Florida Ounce"

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Speaker 1 I went to jail for the Republic.

Speaker 4 Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.

Speaker 5 It's Thursday, August 14th, 2025.

Speaker 6 This is your award-winning Gibbon Nation Media Assassination episode 1790.

Speaker 7 This is no agenda.

Speaker 10 Covering IPV4 and 6, and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA region number 6. In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.

Speaker 14 And from Northern Silicon Valley, where we tell everybody not to throw sandwiches at cops.

Speaker 16 I'm John C. Dvorak.
It's Craig Bottom Buzzkill in the morning.

Speaker 17 Oh, is that the latest in California?

Speaker 15 No, no, this is what happened in D.C.

Speaker 19 You didn't watch this morning's news.

Speaker 21 No, I'm so bored by it.

Speaker 22 I've got Trump on the quad screen right now.

Speaker 26 So there's a guy in a pink shirt and shorts standing in front of one of the cops and yelling, calling him a fascist and going on and on.

Speaker 31 And then he throws a giant subway sandwich at the cop.

Speaker 33 He's right in front of him. He's a foot away.

Speaker 31 And the cops chase him down, arrest him for a felony assault on a police officer.

Speaker 37 The guy

Speaker 38 was an employee of the Department of Justice.

Speaker 39 That's great.

Speaker 40 That's what made this story great.

Speaker 41 We're lost, man.

Speaker 33 Immediately fired by Bondi.

Speaker 43 Oh, no, of course.

Speaker 22 Scam Bondi.

Speaker 44 She won't stand for that.

Speaker 42 What was this guy thinking?

Speaker 8 What a numb nut.

Speaker 50 Well, we probably should just talk with that, just talk about that just for a second since you brought it up.

Speaker 51 Let me see here. It's noteworthy, Errol.
There's been no legal challenge filed by the leaders of the District of Columbia.

Speaker 54 Yeah, isn't that interesting that everyone's like, oh, he's federalizing D.C.

Speaker 58 as a takeover, takeover of D.C.

Speaker 60 I went to

Speaker 23 my hair hair girl in Austin on Wednesday.

Speaker 62 Oh, you went and you took

Speaker 64 the trek to Austin.

Speaker 66 I made the trek.

Speaker 42 It's very dangerous. You're going to be going to Sacramento.

Speaker 67 Long haul.

Speaker 60 Yeah, the distance, but the minute you kind of, once you pass Dripping Springs and you come into

Speaker 70 this big smoke of Austin, it just feels dark.

Speaker 71 Really? Yeah, it does.

Speaker 72 Well, you know.

Speaker 30 It's going to be a lively little city.

Speaker 73 Oh,

Speaker 40 it's big. It's busy.

Speaker 74 There's lots of traffic.

Speaker 53 And everyone's insane.

Speaker 75 Everyone's nuts.

Speaker 76 So I'm talking to my girl.

Speaker 60 She's like, even she was somewhat infected.

Speaker 78 And she's pretty straight down the middle.

Speaker 79 She's like, oh, you know.

Speaker 3 She's affected by what?

Speaker 59 By the, oh, Trump, the takeover, Trump takeover of DC.

Speaker 83 Takeover.

Speaker 34 The U.S.

Speaker 31 government owns D.C.

Speaker 84 Well, this is what people don't know.

Speaker 54 I mean, listen, when they

Speaker 85 don't know anything, they're not taught anything in school.

Speaker 67 No, no,

Speaker 66 when you don't even know what that LBS is an abbreviation for pounds or that a nickel is five.

Speaker 22 Oh, wait a minute. I had another one here.

Speaker 61 What did I have?

Speaker 89 I had another one someone sent me.

Speaker 71 LBS.

Speaker 90 This one.

Speaker 84 Oh, my wife works with

Speaker 91 a vet

Speaker 23 need fee. I'm not sure what this is.

Speaker 93 Her co-worker one day was asking her what a Florida ounce was.

Speaker 95 My wife asked her to repeat it again.

Speaker 96 She said she looked over at the piece of paper and says, Florida.

Speaker 67 What is it Florida ounce?

Speaker 101 because it said FL ounces.

Speaker 46 And this poor person

Speaker 53 didn't understand it when it stood for fluid ounces.

Speaker 93 No, it's Florida ounces.

Speaker 81 I mean, we're pretty lost when this stuff happens.

Speaker 103 Wow, that's a good one.

Speaker 67 That's a topper.

Speaker 104 We are lost.

Speaker 94 So, yeah, people don't know.

Speaker 106 And by the way, all those conspiracies about, oh, it's now the USA is now,

Speaker 101 we're a corporation.

Speaker 106 All the letters are there.

Speaker 71 Oh, here we go.

Speaker 44 It all has to do with Washington, D.C.

Speaker 108 And so, of course, amongst all the noise and all the blathering and all the

Speaker 110 habeas corpus,

Speaker 113 and this is from CBS, indeed, what you do not hear is an actual legal challenge against the president doing this because it's well within his rights and everybody knows it, except people who measure things in Florida ounces.

Speaker 51 It's noteworthy, Errol, there's been no legal challenge filed by the leaders of the District of Columbia, an indication they think the president is well within his authority to unilaterally call up the D.C.

Speaker 51 National Guard, deploy them on the streets in a supportive law enforcement mission, and to federalize the nearly 4,000-person Metropolitan Police Department in Washington, D.C.

Speaker 51 Because this is the District of Columbia, not a city, not a state. The President has unique powers here.
The broader question, though, is what impact is this going to have?

Speaker 51 We know what it looks like so far. You see federal agents, you know, FBI agents, alcohol, tobacco, and firearm agents on the street, almost side by side or block by block with D.C.

Speaker 51 police officers monitoring for street crime. The National Guard still has yet to deploy into the district itself, still readying themselves, readying their equipment.

Speaker 51 We'll expect to see them by weeks in. But it's hard to get a gauge arrow on what's going to be a determinative success here.

Speaker 116 What means this worked?

Speaker 51 Is it a 30-day crime reduction in the data? Is it a no

Speaker 51 friction between the new law enforcement on the ground and the residents of Washington, D.C.?

Speaker 51 And can things change in such a short window of time, over 30 days?

Speaker 51 And the mayor is arguing what you see on the screen, the crime is already down significantly from last year, plummeting by more than 25%.

Speaker 51 That includes robberies, that includes homicides, and she says that's from partnering with the federal government and empowering the local police.

Speaker 102 So I have a question for you about D.C.

Speaker 93 I was born in Washington, D.C.

Speaker 76 My birth certificate, my passport.

Speaker 65 Oh, really?

Speaker 118 You never mentioned that on the show, and I never knew that.

Speaker 39 Yeah, why?

Speaker 19 You were born in Virginia.

Speaker 66 Arlington Hospital, which is technically in Washington, D.C.

Speaker 121 So it says Washington, D.C. on your birth certificate.

Speaker 80 On my certificate?

Speaker 76 Yeah, my birth certificate and my passport.

Speaker 33 Well, that explains a lot.

Speaker 122 So what am I?

Speaker 123 Am I even a human?

Speaker 80 Do I exist?

Speaker 29 No, you're a subhuman.

Speaker 42 We've all known this.

Speaker 125 Do I belong to President Trump?

Speaker 108 Am I a member of Trump land?

Speaker 42 He owns you.

Speaker 39 You're his slave.

Speaker 44 So, just like the Congresswoman Holmes, I exist, but I have Norton.

Speaker 22 Norton, that's something. Why do I say Holmes?

Speaker 126 Norton. No,

Speaker 67 Elizabeth. What is it? Ellen.
What is her name? Eleanor Norton.

Speaker 59 Is that her name?

Speaker 103 Eleanor Holmes Norton or something like that.

Speaker 67 I met her.

Speaker 128 Do you remember? I met her.

Speaker 32 She's.

Speaker 86 Oh, here we go. Yeah.

Speaker 67 I want to hear this.

Speaker 17 I want to say it was 2010 or 2012.

Speaker 129 And

Speaker 130 I was.

Speaker 33 You met up with her.

Speaker 16 She's from, she represents Washington, and you're born there.

Speaker 67 Now it's suspicious.

Speaker 81 It was actually Wendell Potter had invited me to see the...

Speaker 3 Wendell Potter.

Speaker 71 There's a name for it.

Speaker 86 The plot thickens. Yes.

Speaker 132 And he had invited.

Speaker 58 I met him through the big book show.

Speaker 102 Now we're going back.

Speaker 54 No, he's not going to be a big boy.

Speaker 67 The big book show.

Speaker 83 Yeah.

Speaker 22 The big book show. And he wrote a book and it was about how horrible healthcare was in America.

Speaker 23 And I was like, oh, that's kind of an interesting guy.

Speaker 78 And he said, you know, come to D.C.

Speaker 134 And this came up yesterday because Tina said, have you ever been to see? Of course I've been to D.C.

Speaker 96 But the most recently was about 15 years ago.

Speaker 22 And the crime was already bad then. It just felt bad.

Speaker 41 The whole place felt, you know, dark and

Speaker 92 crime-ritten.

Speaker 66 Dark and threatening.

Speaker 133 And so I went to.

Speaker 71 Shut it down.

Speaker 58 So I went to, it says 25%.

Speaker 93 So I went to see his movie and I'm watching this movie and I'm like, something's wrong about this movie.

Speaker 135 And then at the end, you know, they have the filmmakers come up on the stage and talk about the film.

Speaker 53 And there was Norton.

Speaker 94 And Norton's with Wendell Potter.

Speaker 82 And it's all about Obamacare.

Speaker 58 Oh, this is going to save everything.

Speaker 81 I'm like, what?

Speaker 68 I was totally snookered by that guy.

Speaker 94 So that's when I met her.

Speaker 96 And I'm like, you are, she, she, talk about a bad vibe. She just exudes nothing but bad vibe, mainly because she's a representative and is not allowed to vote.

Speaker 139 That's the whole thing.

Speaker 31 No, she's just allowed to make a fuss.

Speaker 145 A fuss, exactly.

Speaker 146 I have two DC clips. All right.

Speaker 149 No real background on what's going on, but interesting clips because this one kind of came and went from ABC played this.

Speaker 40 It's a bureau girl.

Speaker 32 I heard this.

Speaker 150 Yeah, this is a good, this woman comes out and she's, this has kind of been quashed, but this is the DC story ABC Bureau girl.

Speaker 152 I can tell you firsthand here in downtown D.C., where we work, right here around our bureau, just in the past six months, there were two people shot.

Speaker 152 One person died literally two blocks down here from the bureau.

Speaker 152 It was within the last two years that I actually was jumped walking just two blocks down from here.

Speaker 152 And then just this morning, one of my coworkers said her car was stolen a block away from the bureau.

Speaker 104 Nothing to see here.

Speaker 67 There's nothing to see here.

Speaker 16 And then, of course, that contrasts with my D.C.

Speaker 70 supercut, which it could have been better.

Speaker 151 I put some time into it, but I could have.

Speaker 28 I did went 146, but this is a D.C.

Speaker 33 crime.

Speaker 19 It's a crime supercut.

Speaker 155 When I go to D.C.,

Speaker 155 I'm not afraid of losing my wallet so much as I'm afraid of losing my vote.

Speaker 156 I'm not afraid of losing my wallet so much as I'm so sorry.

Speaker 155 I'm afraid that my children's freedom to breathe will be stolen in a world where climate change policy is non-existent.

Speaker 159 Hey, Jen, you know, people ask me as a journalist, are you, you know, you worried about the way things are going with this administration, them coming after you and all that kind of stuff?

Speaker 128 And I think whatever my answer is, it's like double for you, right?

Speaker 161 You're a journalist and you were in the administration.

Speaker 9 Just occurred to me.

Speaker 159 I need to find out if you're scared, because if you're not scared, then I'm good.

Speaker 163 You know, I try not to be.

Speaker 164 So many people have been calling me over the past couple of days going, you know,

Speaker 164 like Washington should have gotten involved years ago.

Speaker 31 This place is dangerous, it's a mess, it's a wreck, and whatever.

Speaker 164 And then they'll go on Twitter, going, this is the worst outrage of all time.

Speaker 164 I don't care what the crime statistics say. Crime has been a problem in this city for the 32 years I've been living inside and outside of the city.

Speaker 79 If, in fact, this only lasts for 30 days, it couldn't possibly have much of an impact on crime in D.C.

Speaker 69 And this may be simply a media event to say that the president is concerned about crime, but in fact have nothing,

Speaker 78 may accomplish nothing in DC or anywhere else.

Speaker 171 The president is doing this not in order to make the city safer, that's the job of local law enforcement, but to solve his own political problems.

Speaker 74 He needs to get his base talking and thinking about something besides his refusal to open up the export files.

Speaker 174 Donald Trump makes himself Batman, and the nation's capital is Gotham City.

Speaker 75 Well, for sure, for sure, everything needs to distract from Epstein.

Speaker 168 We cannot have that.

Speaker 22 And I think that plan is working.

Speaker 32 You're like, well, whatever, moving on.

Speaker 176 Normal people,

Speaker 73 not obsessed with X,

Speaker 53 they've forgotten about it because, you know, they're still trying to figure out what is a Florida ounce.

Speaker 128 I don't get it.

Speaker 67 A Florida ounce.

Speaker 1 By the right show title.

Speaker 178 Yeah, I thought that was a possibility.

Speaker 71 Of course that was.

Speaker 57 There is another motive here for the president, and this could be a signature move for him.

Speaker 108 And we'll only know a little down the line how well that turns out, because whenever you have a crime bill, you don't want it to stick to your name if it starts arresting the wrong people.

Speaker 180 Well, if it's a national emergency, we can do it without Congress. But we expect to be to Congress before Congress very quickly.

Speaker 181 And again, we think the Democrats will not do anything to stop crime, but we think the Republicans will do it almost unanimously.

Speaker 180 So we're going to need a crime bill that we're going to be putting in, and it's going to pertain initially to D.C. It's almost, we're going to use it as a very positive example.

Speaker 180 And we're going to be asking for extensions on that, long-term extensions, because you can't have 30 days.

Speaker 181 30 days is that's by the time you do it.

Speaker 180 We're going to have this in good shape.

Speaker 181 And don't forget, in the border, everyone said it would take years and you'd have to go back to Congress.

Speaker 180 I never went to Congress for anything. I just said, close the border.
And they closed the border. And that was the end of it.
I didn't go back to Congress.

Speaker 180 We're going to do this very quickly, but we're going to want extensions. I don't want to call national emergency.

Speaker 74 If I have to, I will.

Speaker 180 But I think the Republicans in Congress will approve this pretty much unanimously.

Speaker 97 Yeah,

Speaker 53 this will be a signature move, almost as big as the stablecoin.

Speaker 60 It'll be the Trump crime bill.

Speaker 184 And you better check it twice because that can get pretty ugly.

Speaker 23 Before you know it, you're a racist.

Speaker 31 Well, he's been called a racist already for naming.

Speaker 150 The racist thesis goes like this.

Speaker 33 Trump wants to end and lower crime in black-controlled cities like Oakland, Baltimore,

Speaker 150 etc.

Speaker 31 He wants to

Speaker 187 make crime go down in those black cities.

Speaker 37 That is racist.

Speaker 188 That is racist.

Speaker 97 By definition, racist.

Speaker 96 You know, I feel like a bit of, this, of course, is also, everything's about the midterms.

Speaker 23 You and I have discussed that.

Speaker 22 I feel like a bit of a dope

Speaker 60 not having understood

Speaker 22 really the system of illegal immigration, what the whole gambit was

Speaker 168 from the Democrat Party mainly.

Speaker 81 Yeah. Probably completely.

Speaker 81 And the gambit was always the census.

Speaker 71 Right.

Speaker 35 That's what they made a big fuss.

Speaker 64 If you remember in 2020, they made a big fuss about, they tried to put a checkbox, are you illegal aliens?

Speaker 186 Yes.

Speaker 192 And the Democrats fought it tooth and nail, said, no, no, we have to count everybody.

Speaker 187 They're here.

Speaker 31 They have to be counted. They're here.

Speaker 33 They have to be counted.

Speaker 31 And that was, of course, so they could get some more people

Speaker 29 in certain states, California being one of them.

Speaker 86 Yes.

Speaker 80 That would get more representatives.

Speaker 81 Yeah, well, that's the point.

Speaker 189 And that's, I just feel dumb about it.

Speaker 138 I mean,

Speaker 67 everyone always says, well, they just want more Democrat voters.

Speaker 57 They're going to vote illegally.

Speaker 134 No, the whole point was the districting.

Speaker 67 And how many.

Speaker 34 We'll stop for a second.

Speaker 195 With the recent busting of the

Speaker 195 people in, I forgot what state it was.

Speaker 28 There was some

Speaker 86 whistleblower woman came out.

Speaker 31 She was working for the DMV where they were selling driver's licenses to illegals

Speaker 70 $200 a piece.

Speaker 186 And

Speaker 7 they want the votes.

Speaker 88 I mean, yes,

Speaker 28 the reapportionment was the main reason that they wanted millions of aliens in here, and a lot of them never were going to vote, but there are some voters, too.

Speaker 200 But that was just bonus.

Speaker 81 I mean, the real, with the census,

Speaker 23 the big deal is how many representatives you get in Congress.

Speaker 132 That's really the big win by counting everybody.

Speaker 22 I think what you're referring to was Trump versus New York in 2020.

Speaker 18 And it was a U.S.

Speaker 66 Supreme Court case, but they punched it back down.

Speaker 202 They said, no, no, this is,

Speaker 168 we're not going to talk about this now.

Speaker 112 They didn't want to deal with it at the time.

Speaker 22 And so that stayed in the lower courts.

Speaker 97 But I just wanted to, let me dive in for a second.

Speaker 69 I just wanted to dive in with a little explanation of the census, because now we're getting to

Speaker 81 words, words that matter.

Speaker 136 I should probably read it verbatim, the U.S.

Speaker 69 Constitution, Article 1, Section 2, Clause 3.

Speaker 112 Representatives and direct taxes shall be apportioned among the several states which may be included with this Union according to their respective numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole number of free persons, including those bound to service for a term of 10 years and excluding Indians not taxed, three-fifths of all other persons, slaves.

Speaker 60 The actual

Speaker 23 enumeration, which I think is an important word, shall be made within three years after the first meeting of the Congress of the United States and within every subsequent term of 10 years in such matter as they shall by law direct.

Speaker 113 And of course, the real bummer for counting came with the 14th Amendment, Section 2, and that was 1868.

Speaker 134 Representatives shall be apportioned among the several states according to the respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each state, excluding Indians not taxed.

Speaker 140 These Indians, annoying.

Speaker 23 This removed the Three Fifths Clause, ensuring all persons except untaxed Native Americans are fully counted for representation.

Speaker 69 So in every case where this comes up, the Democrats in general, it could easily be the Republicans if the tables are turned, they say, no, no, 14th Amendment supersedes that, and it's the whole number, not just enumerated

Speaker 184 the free persons, but the whole number.

Speaker 95 So I found CBS had a reasonable explanation of how this all works and its importance.

Speaker 211 President Trump is calling on the Department of Commerce to make a new census.

Speaker 211 The president wants the department to, quote, begin work on a new, highly accurate census based on modern-day facts and figures.

Speaker 211 He goes on to say, people who are in our country illegally will not be counted in the census.

Speaker 213 Now, for more on this, I'm joined by Hansi Lo Wong.

Speaker 211 He's a correspondent at the Washington Desk for NPR. Hansi, thanks so much for joining us.

Speaker 213 First off, I think a lot of people aren't clear on what the census process actually looks like.

Speaker 211 Can you explain that?

Speaker 214 You know, when we're talking about the census, we are talking about the bedrock of U.S. democracy.
The Constitution lays out instructions for a count of persons every 10 years.

Speaker 214 It's a count of persons. You won't find the word citizen in the Constitution's instructions.

Speaker 214 And since 1790, there's been a thorny history of exactly which persons residing in the country was counted and by how much.

Speaker 214 But one thing is true, which is that no resident of the United States without immigration, without legal status in the United States, has been left out of a census.

Speaker 214 And these are numbers used to determine each state's share of congressional seats and electoral college votes.

Speaker 168 All right, so that's pretty much what I said.

Speaker 59 And so, what, if changes are possible, what exactly is President Trump going for?

Speaker 78 And it does have to run through the Commerce Secretary, and I believe can only really be adjusted or recounted with Congress.

Speaker 211 Now, is it even possible to make changes before the next census?

Speaker 67 You know,

Speaker 53 before like during the midterms.

Speaker 214 That's an interesting question because I think the real question is: what is President Trump calling for? He's calling for a new census. Does he mean the 2030 census?

Speaker 214 The preparations are already underway for that. Is he calling for a new census before 2030? Those are really big questions.

Speaker 214 That's a big question to answer because that means how much time is left to prepare for this census. The Census Bureau takes more than a decade to prepare for a census.

Speaker 214 And then the question about potentially excluding people living in the states without legal status, you know, that's a big question because the 14th Amendment of the Constitution calls for the whole number of persons to be included in the numbers used to redistribute house seats and like 12 college votes.

Speaker 214 So, the question possibility here, there are a lot of other questions that we need to answer first.

Speaker 69 And I will point out that we discussed this very issue coming up two shows ago last Thursday, and no one was talking about it.

Speaker 55 And we were on the inside track.

Speaker 216 A little ball spike.

Speaker 217 So, this

Speaker 218 Heine, what's his name? Hondi Heine Hannes.

Speaker 17 He's from NPR.

Speaker 136 And so he did a better report on NPR, which explains the tactics and the strategy of the Trump administration to

Speaker 44 get the old census, as far as I can understand, recounted, excluding

Speaker 73 illegal aliens or maybe people who don't live here anymore.

Speaker 167 NPR has learned new details about how the Census Bureau is responding to President Trump's call for a new census.

Speaker 169 That call comes as Trump keeps pushing some states to use census data to redraw voting maps and help Republicans keep control of the U.S. House of Representatives.

Speaker 161 Exactly.

Speaker 221 Here's NPR's Hansi Lawong.

Speaker 222 This week, Congress Secretary Howard Ludnick, who oversees the Census Bureau, acknowledged that Congress, not Trump, has final say of the population count that's used to determine each state's sheriff's seats in the House Representative, as according to three Bureau employees who heard a town hall event with Ludnick and asked not to be named because they fear retaliation.

Speaker 222 Some House Republicans have recently proposed changing census law.

Speaker 67 Well, I was talking with President Trump on the phone,

Speaker 222 including Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia.

Speaker 67 And I told him that my idea is to have a bill that immediately calls for a new census.

Speaker 222 Speaking with the right-wing media outlet, Real America's Voice, Green also called for a new distribution of House seats and roundabouts.

Speaker 22 I love how they have to add that in there.

Speaker 123 Speaking with the right-wing news outlet, America's Voice.

Speaker 57 Do you identify yourself as the left-wing news outlet NPR?

Speaker 225 No.

Speaker 224 To have a bill that immediately calls for a new census.

Speaker 222 Speaking with the right-wing media outlet, Real America's Voice, Green also called for a new distribution of House seats and round of redistricting before next year's midterm election.

Speaker 226 Well, I'll speak for both of us.

Speaker 228 We love it.

Speaker 222 Last month, President Trump publicly backed Greene's bill, along with Florida's Republican governor, Ron DeSantis.

Speaker 229 I know they've considered doing another census.

Speaker 222 Who has said the Trump administration has thought about counting before the next scheduled tally in 2030.

Speaker 229 Because I think you have to do it once every 10 years. It doesn't mean you can't do it more than every 10 years under the Constitution.

Speaker 222 Any attempt at a census before 2030 will likely be challenged in court.

Speaker 222 Trump and other Republicans are calling to alter census numbers that the 14th Amendment says must include the, quote, whole number of persons in each state by excluding some or all residents without U.S.

Speaker 222 citizenship.

Speaker 231 We won't hesitate to go back to court to protect representation for all communities.

Speaker 90 Commissioner Mr.

Speaker 222 Fielnyn Lincoln of the American Civil Liberties Union says she'll be monitoring the Trump administration's next census moves.

Speaker 222 So far, the Commerce Department says the Census Bureau will use, quote, modern technology tools to analyze data in response to Trump's recent call.

Speaker 176 AI!

Speaker 193 Throw it into AI, that'll fix it.

Speaker 41 They're serious about this.

Speaker 59 I think they could actually, they could maybe do something with

Speaker 232 nowhere.

Speaker 44 They're going to try.

Speaker 88 Yeah, well, they're going to try.

Speaker 221 They're having enough trouble just reapportioning Texas.

Speaker 220 You know, it's enough of a headache.

Speaker 96 That's because they're just full of hot air, not actually doing anything.

Speaker 95 Constitutional lawyer Rob actually sent me something.

Speaker 89 He said,

Speaker 67 Friday, Texas Attorney General Ken Paxon filed a quo warranto,

Speaker 59 which is kind of a cool band name.

Speaker 225 Hey, everybody, we're quo warranto.

Speaker 4 That is a cool band name.

Speaker 79 He filed that in the Texas Supreme Court.

Speaker 79 It was interesting, says Constitutional Lawyer Lawyer Rob.

Speaker 141 He says

Speaker 60 rapid action will happen from this.

Speaker 173 And he thinks that there will be a conditional writ of quo warranto giving the Democrats 48 hours to return to work.

Speaker 66 If they don't return, their seats will be automatically declared vacant.

Speaker 112 And then the governor, Abbott, can pack the seats with

Speaker 225 loyalists.

Speaker 194 Yeah, that's what you do.

Speaker 64 That sounds like a good idea.

Speaker 7 I played the Beto clip.

Speaker 103 This is even funnier.

Speaker 60 Remind me to read the next paragraph in his.

Speaker 235 That's where we get this clip, by the way.

Speaker 53 Nailed it.

Speaker 236 Texas wants Beto behind bars. The state's attorney general asking a district judge to jail Beto O'Rourke for bankrolling Texas Dems who fled the state during their redistricting fight.

Speaker 193 Ken Paxton claims Beto violated a court order that barred him and his nonprofit, powered by the people, from fundraising efforts.

Speaker 236 So, here to discuss his allegations is Texas Attorney General Ken Paxon. He's also running for the U.S.
Senate. So, Mr.
Attorney General,

Speaker 236 let's talk to you about some of the comments that Beto made over the weekend. Listen here, and we'll get your response.

Speaker 240 We punch first and we punch harder.

Speaker 240 We want California, and New Jersey, and Illinois, and Maryland, and every other state where the Democrats hold the governor's mansion, the Assembly, and the state senate to redraw their congressional districts now, not wait for Texas to move first to maximize Democratic Party advantage.

Speaker 240 Listen, you may say to yourself, well, those aren't the rules. There are no refs in this game.

Speaker 240 The rules. We are going to win whatever it takes.

Speaker 236 So is that why Beto's potentially getting locked up, or is there a bigger reason?

Speaker 242 No, that's pretty much it. You saw it right there.
There was already a temporary restraining order that stopped him from raising money.

Speaker 242 And he was at that rally, clearly raising money for not political reasons, which would have been appropriate.

Speaker 242 He was raising it for personal expenses to help these Democrats in Texas evade their responsibilities. That's the problem.

Speaker 242 And he was ordered by a judge to stop fundraising, and he said, basically, he just continued to do it.

Speaker 189 That's interesting because Rob has a different take on this.

Speaker 197 Rob is the Attorney General, so that's probably the official take.

Speaker 23 Well, the official messaging.

Speaker 145 It's the Bed O bribes, everybody.

Speaker 75 Paxson says, not only does what Beto is doing violate the Texas Deceptive Trade Practices Act, but also is a form of felony bribery because it constitutes a benefit given to a public servant in exchange for violating his duties.

Speaker 243 Yeah.

Speaker 22 So, Beto bribes. Wow, Mike.

Speaker 204 What's happening?

Speaker 67 I would think, you know, of course, I think Beto, who's beta, it's Beto.

Speaker 3 Beta or Rora because he's kind of a beta.

Speaker 7 You got to say

Speaker 24 Beto is

Speaker 31 looking, you know, he just can't get out of politics because of his wife, you know, has been, he's basically the one who forces him into being a battle.

Speaker 53 She's got the money.

Speaker 80 She's got to do something.

Speaker 194 She's got the money, and she keeps pushing.

Speaker 42 You'd be good at this, you know, kind of thing.

Speaker 28 He's just a wimpy guy. He's horrible.

Speaker 88 But I think he would love to get arrested and thrown in jail.

Speaker 244 So he could be a martyr.

Speaker 71 Yeah.

Speaker 34 You're right.

Speaker 42 To get more attention to him, get himself more attention.

Speaker 33 I went to jail for the Republic.

Speaker 63 I mean,

Speaker 12 you see it a mile away.

Speaker 94 Do you remember when the Democrats thought, oh, he's so cool?

Speaker 81 He skateboards.

Speaker 40 He skateboards.

Speaker 22 He was skateboarding onto stages when he was running.

Speaker 38 Oh, I forgot all about the fact that he's skateboarding.

Speaker 168 And he was drumming to Phil Collins in the air tonight while in the drive-through line for Waterburger or whatever he was doing.

Speaker 235 Oh, I missed that too.

Speaker 100 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 65 He's horrible.

Speaker 73 Yeah, I think Betto the rock star.

Speaker 173 Do we have a.

Speaker 231 You can't go 10 feet without an interruption from a Betto backer.

Speaker 246 Thank you so much. I love you, too.
Thank you all. You're a rock star.
No, no, there's just so many great people.

Speaker 247 You can't go anywhere without getting.

Speaker 5 Hey! Hey! Hey!

Speaker 248 You're a rock star, said the mainstream media. You're a rock star.
You're the best, Betto. Woo!

Speaker 53 Hey, it's a new voice.

Speaker 179 That voice is almost identical to that woman's voice.

Speaker 244 It was pretty good.

Speaker 64 It took me a couple of beats before I figured out it wasn't her.

Speaker 3 You're the best skateboarder. Can I get on the back of your skateboard?

Speaker 251 Good voice. Hey,

Speaker 113 important information.

Speaker 4 It's come to light.

Speaker 81 I believe we have not only discovered the reason for our downward trending troll room numbers, but have also fixed and addressed the issue.

Speaker 40 Ah, okay.

Speaker 80 This is good news.

Speaker 252 Yes, it is.

Speaker 113 And it's been going going on for several weeks.

Speaker 54 And

Speaker 253 we noticed. Yeah.

Speaker 216 People were, it's very difficult to get reports from people who are like, it doesn't work.

Speaker 101 Screen, screenshot.

Speaker 225 It doesn't work.

Speaker 252 So trying to get technical analysis is very, very, but it was actually Rocky Thomas who donated on the last show.

Speaker 234 I'm doing the speech with her, or lost speech, fireside chat.

Speaker 66 at podcast movement on Tuesday in Dallas.

Speaker 255 Never mind.

Speaker 256 There was a moment there where there was a funny line.

Speaker 81 You choked.

Speaker 177 I choked. He choked.

Speaker 116 He choked on it, man.

Speaker 18 Now she's technically very adept and she said,

Speaker 23 you know, I've been trying to listen to the live stream with the fountain app.

Speaker 60 And then so she sent me a screenshot with an actual error message like, oh, thank you.

Speaker 96 This is good. So I talk it over with Void Zero.

Speaker 145 And it was odd because it would happen to people.

Speaker 108 it happened a lot with people on what we thought was only iPhones on ATT,

Speaker 87 and then they'd switch to a Wi-Fi network, and it wouldn't be a problem

Speaker 215 on the same phone.

Speaker 81 And then people would have trouble at home on a Wi-Fi network, and then there were Android.

Speaker 113 So we're trying to figure out,

Speaker 46 is it a phone problem?

Speaker 189 Is it a network problem?

Speaker 132 You'll never guess what the problem was.

Speaker 28 I'll never guess.

Speaker 206 But you got to try one guess at least.

Speaker 42 It was a configuration problem.

Speaker 86 Yes.

Speaker 86 Config.

Speaker 113 And the config issue was IPv6.

Speaker 32 So

Speaker 209 people's phones will be sometimes hitting IPv4,

Speaker 209 which is the old addressing scheme, and sometimes IPv6.

Speaker 21 And what Void Zero is sleuthing because he

Speaker 104 Void Zero,

Speaker 94 when I say, hey, man, something's wrong here.

Speaker 194 IPv6 is a huge problem.

Speaker 251 Yes.

Speaker 67 I shut it off everywhere.

Speaker 59 I don't have IPv6.

Speaker 33 I have it shut off on all my systems.

Speaker 57 I'm just going to use up the internet.

Speaker 94 I don't care.

Speaker 189 I'm not going to use IPv6 because it's always the last thing you think of.

Speaker 204 So our.

Speaker 28 Well, it's the last thing you think of if you're like you and myself, who have turned it off years ago

Speaker 30 on all the routers and all the machines that we don't even think about it anymore.

Speaker 241 I can't remember those numbers.

Speaker 11 I can remember four series of numbers.

Speaker 94 I can't remember IPv6 number is no good.

Speaker 107 So our cert

Speaker 44 our

Speaker 175 certificate for SSL, which, of course, we don't want a man in the middle of our stream.

Speaker 11 Oh, no, we need to secure that button.

Speaker 83 We got to secure that.

Speaker 260 Otherwise, the little guy with the bank robber will come out and make you all afraid of our insecure stream.

Speaker 261 Thank you, Google.

Speaker 188 Was misconfigured on IPv6 or wasn't,

Speaker 141 I'll just say misconfigured.

Speaker 78 And Void Zero figured it out.

Speaker 83 And so I think...

Speaker 262 Wait a minute, so my guess was accurate.

Speaker 241 Your guess was spot on.

Speaker 173 Configure.

Speaker 54 Yeah, only amazed.

Speaker 136 We didn't know that it was IPv6.

Speaker 96 Who would have thought about that?

Speaker 80 Well,

Speaker 42 this is the last thing you think of.

Speaker 41 Yeah, it's

Speaker 89 man.

Speaker 140 That's a good line, Logan 5.

Speaker 136 So we needed IPv6 because we had all those illegal aliens that were using up the IP addresses.

Speaker 49 So that's why they were telling us.

Speaker 57 Switch to IPv6.

Speaker 160 This is the future.

Speaker 184 Just like passcodes.

Speaker 115 IPv6 passcodes and SSL certificates are the future of headache.

Speaker 251 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 125 Shout out to John from Autos

Speaker 107 here in Fredericksburg.

Speaker 96 This was a crazy event.

Speaker 59 I've told you about Autos, haven't I?

Speaker 263 I think you looked at the menu at Autos with me one time.

Speaker 40 Yeah, I did.

Speaker 135 So Auto's German Bistro restaurant we're having dinner with some friends it's a small place they maybe have 10 tables nice place if you're ever in fredericksburg definitely check out auto's they've got spot-on german food except for one thing

Speaker 17 or at least something i never saw in germany which is fryer fried sauerkraut balls

Speaker 103 yeah which are just fantastic so we're sitting specialty item from some part of germany i've never seen them either well uh here's what happened so we're sitting there and we're done with our dinner and all all of a sudden, the server comes over.

Speaker 18 He puts down four forks.

Speaker 188 He gives us each a glass of some

Speaker 68 like dinner wine schnappsy type thing.

Speaker 190 And then he puts down a cheesecake and a chocolate cake.

Speaker 172 I'm like, but who ordered that?

Speaker 112 So, no, that's from John over there.

Speaker 160 And this is a young guy, couldn't have been 40, maybe 35.

Speaker 57 And he's sitting at the other table.

Speaker 18 He waves. And, you know, so I'm like, okay, so I go over.

Speaker 67 I go over. I said, hey, I'm Adam.

Speaker 46 He said, yeah, I'm John.

Speaker 106 I'm the owner in the morning.

Speaker 156 Like, what?

Speaker 67 In the morning.

Speaker 210 He says, Yeah, I've owned the place for 12 years.

Speaker 53 I said, This is fantastic.

Speaker 18 I didn't know you were producers, and I knew you guys came in here, but never a chance to say hi and

Speaker 17 make an in-person donation.

Speaker 74 I'm holding my hand out for the check, but no, I guess that was the dessert.

Speaker 8 And I said, How about the

Speaker 42 hey, send me half? Say, tell me,

Speaker 115 tell me about the fried sauerkraut balls.

Speaker 168 I totally made that up.

Speaker 64 You totally made it up?

Speaker 207 Yeah, it's not a delicacy from somewhere in Germany.

Speaker 98 Oh, Oh, that's cool.

Speaker 3 Well, what?

Speaker 177 Yeah, but

Speaker 31 it's, you know, it's got the theme. You can make stuff up thematically within a cuisine that's still part of the cuisine.

Speaker 220 Sorry to tell you that. I'm all in.

Speaker 106 I'm all in.

Speaker 37 But did he give you the recipe?

Speaker 192 That sounds like something we should have on the show.

Speaker 59 I will get the recipe for a tip of the day.

Speaker 160 I will get John's sauerkraut balls, fried sauerkraut balls.

Speaker 40 And is that good?

Speaker 94 Oh, well, I've had them before. They are phenomenal.

Speaker 179 It's like crack.

Speaker 58 It's almost like a Bitterball.

Speaker 95 You know, know, the Dutch bitterball.

Speaker 103 No, I don't know the Dutch Bitterball, which is the round ball croquette type snack.

Speaker 112 You've seen it, you

Speaker 22 have it with mustard, with like sharp mustard.

Speaker 17 I probably had it, but yeah, so it has a brown, crusty outside, and on the inside, is this battered?

Speaker 235 Is that the idea?

Speaker 22 Lightly battered, lightly.

Speaker 73 I mean, the outside is battered.

Speaker 112 The inside has it's like, you know, brain matter with sauerkraut, basically.

Speaker 133 Um,

Speaker 251 so good.

Speaker 44 Yeah, I'll get the recipe.

Speaker 82 It probably just consists of sauerkraut, brain matter, and batter and oil.

Speaker 32 I don't know.

Speaker 189 At any rate, it's a lot tastier than this new food product, which everyone is talking about.

Speaker 87 I don't know if you've heard about the new food product.

Speaker 7 Well, you're not talking about the Bill Gates butter.

Speaker 128 Yes, I am.

Speaker 83 Yes, I am.

Speaker 64 It's not new.

Speaker 24 First videos of it were over a year ago.

Speaker 99 Well, where's your clip?

Speaker 80 I don't have a clip.

Speaker 259 It's over a year ago.

Speaker 13 I don't play.

Speaker 24 I try not to play old clips because people say, hey, that's old.

Speaker 113 Well, it's going viral now.

Speaker 207 Everyone's talking about the carbon butter.

Speaker 265 In the middle of an industrial park in a suburb west of Chicago, something unprecedented is happening.

Speaker 266 So you're using this gas right now to like cook your food.

Speaker 266 And we're proposing that we would like to first make your food with that gas.

Speaker 265 The company is called Saver, and you better believe it.

Speaker 265 Their pioneering tech uses carbon and hydrogen to make the stick of butter you see on this plate this is pretty novel to be able to make food that looks and tastes and feels exactly like dairy butter but with no agriculture whatsoever and no long ingredient i love the up talking people like whenever someone's up talking like that you don't want to eat that product but with no agriculture whatsoever and no long ingredient list the average person can't pronounce.

Speaker 268 It's really just our fat, some water, a little bit of lecithin as an emulsifier, and some natural flavor and color.

Speaker 59 Hold on. Natural flavor.

Speaker 123 Natural flavor is literally chemicals.

Speaker 268 And some natural flavor and color.

Speaker 269 How?

Speaker 265 Fats are made up of carbon and hydrogen chains.

Speaker 59 The goal here, replicate those chains without a chemical.

Speaker 270 Okay, stop the clip.

Speaker 35 I'm going to ask you at the beginning of this, and I posed the same question to the...

Speaker 7 to the Twitters people that play this.

Speaker 271 This is the newest version of the clip, which is over.

Speaker 30 The old one is better.

Speaker 71 It's got Bill eating ice.

Speaker 187 Bill's eating ice cream.

Speaker 35 He's going, this is really good.

Speaker 249 And I would like to know

Speaker 42 what the difference between this is, they admit it's hydrocarbons, hydrogen, and some lecithin to make it smoother.

Speaker 219 That's exactly the methodology you use to make margarine.

Speaker 31 How is this any different than margarine?

Speaker 272 Well, specifically, can anybody answer me this question?

Speaker 19 It's margarine 3.0.

Speaker 34 Margarine

Speaker 24 is oils, miscellaneous oils, and jacked up with hydrogen, hydrogenated oils that make it the hard as a rock.

Speaker 18 Well, actually, in this clip, if you'll just wait 20 more seconds, you'll hear what it actually resembles.

Speaker 41 Chains.

Speaker 265 The goal here, replicate those chains without animals or plants. And they did it.

Speaker 265 They tell me to simplify: they take carbon dioxide from the air and hydrogen from water, heat them up up and oxidize them. The final result?

Speaker 266 It looks like a wax.

Speaker 184 Yeah, it's wax.

Speaker 100 That's what it's candle wax.

Speaker 54 That's what I'm doing.

Speaker 34 Yeah,

Speaker 262 they're using hydro.

Speaker 7 This is the iterations of, I'm going to give you the iterations of a margarine.

Speaker 39 Yeah, please.

Speaker 39 Margarine began.

Speaker 161 Yes, let's go.

Speaker 31 Margarine began as a hydrogen.

Speaker 75 Why? No, wait.

Speaker 23 I want to know why did we start with margarine?

Speaker 118 Because somebody invented it and they decided that, well, what are we going to do with this crap?

Speaker 259 Well, let's tell people that butter is unhealthy.

Speaker 24 And so they marketed it as a healthy alternative to butter.

Speaker 33 Look at butter will make you fat.

Speaker 259 So they, so they, the original margarine was animal fats hydrogenated into oleomargarine.

Speaker 19 That, if, that was 1.0.

Speaker 43 People then said, well, animal fats, oh, God.

Speaker 194 And so they said, okay.

Speaker 24 So they went to margarine 2.0, which was the stuff that we all know, Blue Bonnet and all the the rest of them.

Speaker 3 That was vegetable oils plus hydrogenation.

Speaker 31 That's margarine 2.0.

Speaker 67 This is basically crude oil pumped from the ground.

Speaker 29 So they've skipped the regular process of either animal fats or vegetable oil or seed oils, as you would have it.

Speaker 118 And now they've gone just straight to petroleum products, pumped up with the stuff and added some flavor.

Speaker 34 This is disgusting.

Speaker 57 This is, thank you.

Speaker 67 That is a phenomenal overview of

Speaker 53 margarine and you nailed it because this is that's what's new.

Speaker 107 What's new is not that this is healthier for you.

Speaker 123 No, what's new is this is better for the environment.

Speaker 265 It's all done releasing zero greenhouse gases using no farmland to feed cows.

Speaker 266 We're like not at full capacity in this facility yet.

Speaker 266 And even though we're standing in a factory setting, and in addition to the carbon footprint being much lower for a process like this, right, the land footprint is a thousand times lower than what you need in traditional agriculture.

Speaker 265 I know what you're thinking.

Speaker 55 I think we need to taste the.

Speaker 105 I would love for you to text the obligatory, oh, tastes just like butter segment.

Speaker 55 How does it taste?

Speaker 67 I love butter, so I'm going to take a really healthy amount.

Speaker 265 Admittedly, surprisingly, like butter.

Speaker 67 Oh, what? No, it tastes like butter.

Speaker 50 They had a big thing of salt next to it, so so she smears this petroleum goo on her bread and then puts salt on it.

Speaker 199 Okay, yeah, that'll taste good.

Speaker 31 You might as well just put Vaseline on your bread.

Speaker 81 Vaseline.

Speaker 87 I can't believe it's not Vaseline.

Speaker 252 It's just butter.

Speaker 57 So here we go with the final payoff because it's a doozy.

Speaker 265 Their teams here in Batavia, Illinois, and their home lab base in San Jose, California, backed by Bill Gates, who wrote in his blog, quote, the idea of switching to lab-made fats and oils may seem strange at first, but their potential to significantly reduce our carbon footprint is immense.

Speaker 67 Believing butter can make a difference.

Speaker 153 This is really about how we feed our species and heal our planet at the same time.

Speaker 101 By killing us, you heal the planet.

Speaker 33 Killing us off.

Speaker 241 Bill Gates, his end goal is always, we'll save the planet when we kill you.

Speaker 124 Everything he does is like, you need vaccines to kill you, and then the planet will heal.

Speaker 254 I just found it phenomenal.

Speaker 140 Thank you.

Speaker 73 It is,

Speaker 179 what did you call it?

Speaker 42 Margarine 3.0.

Speaker 100 Crude oil.

Speaker 3 Yeah, crude oil hydrogenated.

Speaker 100 Crude oil.

Speaker 193 Well, Trump should say, we've got the most.

Speaker 207 We could have the biggest butter mountain in the world.

Speaker 60 I just love that.

Speaker 140 I know, I know it's not new.

Speaker 39 And probably I should find the one with Bill Gates eating the ice cream crap made out of crude oil.

Speaker 67 This is, who wants a Florida ounce? I think I'll go have some Florida ounce out of Florida.

Speaker 99 Bill Gates.

Speaker 145 And we call it Bill's butter.

Speaker 167 Let's just call it what it is.

Speaker 83 Bill's crude oil.

Speaker 67 Bill's butter.

Speaker 126 That's a good thing.

Speaker 67 Bill's butter.

Speaker 40 Yeah.

Speaker 31 I think he's a shareholder in this company, Saber.

Speaker 210 Well, that's what they just said.

Speaker 203 Oh, I'm sorry. Okay.

Speaker 83 Yeah.

Speaker 60 You were too busy hating on me to even listen to the clip.

Speaker 7 No, it's because I hate this whole idea.

Speaker 35 The fact that they can snooker the public into buying into this kind of thing.

Speaker 31 And the thing is, it's going to be like, you know, it's going to be terrible.

Speaker 16 It's just they took me, they talk a big game.

Speaker 42 This is like the, if you don't remember the Olestra scandal.

Speaker 103 Olestra.

Speaker 31 Olestra.

Speaker 118 This is the stuff that came out. It was going to be the new cooking oil.

Speaker 33 Oh, we're going to use Olestra because it doesn't have any cholesterol or some bullcrap.

Speaker 30 And it was, and so their potato chips, all the stuff was released.

Speaker 28 This was about 20 years ago, I think, when they released all these Olestra products.

Speaker 42 And they were all, and so a friend of mine had a bag of lace potato chips that were cooked in Olestra.

Speaker 35 And he's eating them.

Speaker 24 And he says, he says, you want to try these things?

Speaker 92 I said, sure, because I wanted to check out what Olestra was like.

Speaker 42 What was the difference?

Speaker 85 Oh, my God.

Speaker 274 It was some, there was something.

Speaker 262 You'd eat a potato chip, and then all of a sudden, after maybe two chips, there was a coating, like a wax coating on the roof of your palate, and you couldn't get it off with your tongue.

Speaker 63 You'd go

Speaker 31 trying to get this horrible, whatever the hell it was, stuck all over your mouth and teeth, this goo, and it was, it was on, it was inedible.

Speaker 118 I don't know if you could even digest it.

Speaker 262 There were reports of all kinds of pooping issues because of this Olestra.

Speaker 71 Look it up.

Speaker 188 Yeah, well, actually,

Speaker 96 it's Olestra,

Speaker 49 O-L-E-S-T-R-A.

Speaker 66 Here's a commercial.

Speaker 277 Can warm-blooded Americans say the difference between Lay's Wow potato chips and their favorite chips? Let's find out. You know, they're fat-free, only half the calories.

Speaker 117 Holy cow!

Speaker 126 These are great.

Speaker 278 These tastes are good as my regular chips.

Speaker 32 These are tasty.

Speaker 44 Yeah, so

Speaker 81 the brand was WOW.

Speaker 173 Olestra, wow.

Speaker 69 And they apparently

Speaker 65 made you poop.

Speaker 37 I guess so, yeah.

Speaker 89 Let me see, what was this?

Speaker 136 Ah, the 1990s.

Speaker 71 Oh, I don't need to do that.

Speaker 135 Yeah, that people got diarrhea after eating them.

Speaker 2 What a product.

Speaker 42 I don't know how you could eat as much, enough of it to get diarrhea, to be honest about it.

Speaker 121 It was like within two or three chips that

Speaker 19 it was coating your mouth and tongue, and

Speaker 98 you couldn't get it off.

Speaker 19 I don't know how you could possibly eat enough to get diarrhea.

Speaker 241 This is another boomer moment, everybody. Enjoy.

Speaker 81 Because, you know, when we were kids, we had chips that made you shart.

Speaker 181 These days, you got to eat crude oil butter.

Speaker 279 We had it better back in our day.

Speaker 156 Let me tell you that.

Speaker 220 We had it better.

Speaker 8 Oh, man. Oh, man.
Oh, man.

Speaker 59 That's our show.

Speaker 22 Good night, everybody.

Speaker 31 It's a pretty much, actually, that was a summary of the show for sure.

Speaker 137 That's all we do. Oh, goodness.

Speaker 31 We got stories.

Speaker 244 We do. We got this.

Speaker 244 We got stories.

Speaker 145 We definitely got this.

Speaker 38 How about some, since we were talking a little about crime, how about the cashless bail malarkey I want to play some clips of?

Speaker 69 Oh, I'm not familiar with this.

Speaker 7 Well, you know, cashless bail is going to be the big threat.

Speaker 67 Well, this was... No, wait a minute.

Speaker 47 Cashless bail, that's what started during the BLM riots.

Speaker 280 Am I correct?

Speaker 71 Yeah, well.

Speaker 22 Which means you get bail without having to pay cash, which is kind of the opposite of what bail is.

Speaker 7 Yeah, they just let you go.

Speaker 112 And so, the idea of bail, for those who don't know it, who have not been in jail or have had friends in jail overnight,

Speaker 22 you get a bail set at like $10,000.

Speaker 133 And if you go to a bail bondsman, usually located conveniently next to the jail, it's the great American tradition, then you can pay 10%, $1,000.

Speaker 94 He'll put up the bond, and then you get out.

Speaker 23 And of course, if you skip town, you lose your $1,000, and they could put a warrant out, and then Dog

Speaker 69 the bounty hunter comes after you and rousts you and takes everything.

Speaker 31 Before we play these three clips from NPR, which are misleading

Speaker 85 and

Speaker 28 gee, let me,

Speaker 28 I guess I'm

Speaker 255 redundancy there.

Speaker 118 Misleading clips from NPR, I want to play, I want to play, I want to read something from, I did a

Speaker 244 AI search with perplexity.

Speaker 94 Oh, you did a deep dive.

Speaker 31 It's not a deep dive.

Speaker 271 It's just a stupid thing.

Speaker 30 But I I just asked the question, has any murder suspect ever been let out on bail in a cashless bail jurisdiction?

Speaker 151 Yes, it goes on.

Speaker 28 There's been many, and they have some documented here, the New York, the New Jersey in particular,

Speaker 185 different murder suspects here and there.

Speaker 89 Murder suspects. Wow.

Speaker 131 So

Speaker 131 this let them go.

Speaker 274 But

Speaker 25 if you listen to this NPR for the for the idiots that think NPR is the be-all end-all, let's listen to these clips.

Speaker 250 This is Cashless Murder Bail Malarkey One.

Speaker 238 Well, we're keeping an eye on National Guard troops as they patrol the streets of Washington, D.C.

Speaker 241 I'm looking through the window right now behind the curtain from our NPR studios.

Speaker 238 But let's take up something else. The president said in his news conference about crime on Monday, that cashless bail is on his radar in Washington, D.C.
and other Democratic-led cities like Chicago.

Speaker 238 He made this statement about no cash bail, which, as far as we can tell, is not true. Not true.
Not true.

Speaker 58 I mean, bad politicians started it.

Speaker 182 Bad leadership started it.

Speaker 219 But that was the one thing that central, no cash bail.

Speaker 182 Somebody murders somebody and they're out on no cash bail that before the day is out.

Speaker 238 Again, murderers out on cashless bail doesn't seem to be happening. Let's get some facts from an expert.

Speaker 67 Sandra Guerre. Well, hold on a second.

Speaker 135 Why didn't they just use perplexity like you did?

Speaker 94 Why'd they have to bring in the middle of the map?

Speaker 42 They could have done any search and found this out.

Speaker 67 Yeah, with this.

Speaker 38 I just gave a free plug to perplexity for no good reason.

Speaker 67 Oh, Oh, okay.

Speaker 262 But the point is that there is no research done on this report, and then they bring in an expert, and this is a beauty.

Speaker 238 Murderers out on cashless bail doesn't seem to be happening. Let's get some facts from an expert.
Facts. Sandra Guerra Thompson is a law professor at the University of Houston.

Speaker 238 She is a court-appointed monitor in Harris County, Texas, after cashless bail was instituted there for lesser crimes. For lesser crimes, Professor Sandra, welcome.
Hello.

Speaker 238 So bail is something we understand people pay pay to stay out of jail while they await trial, but a lot of people can't afford bail. They have no money.

Speaker 238 So cashless bail is a system where only people who are a flight risk or a danger to the community can be held in detention while they await trial, not simply people who can't pay bail.

Speaker 238 Have I got that right?

Speaker 230 Yeah, that's right. It's a complicated system, but I think that that covers it.

Speaker 238 That simplifies it. Well, so is it true, as the president said, that if you're accused of murder, you can get get this cashless bail and get out by the end of the day?

Speaker 230 Well, it's not true in Harris County. Our system only applies to misdemeanors.

Speaker 140 Okay, so maybe not in Harris County.

Speaker 24 It doesn't.

Speaker 30 So she's got, so Harris County has cashless bail for petty theft, trespassing.

Speaker 35 And so she, so she, so no.

Speaker 186 Will you let a murderer out? No.

Speaker 19 But they're, but their system doesn't,

Speaker 35 there's no cashless bail

Speaker 43 at that level for felonies.

Speaker 194 So why is she asking, why is this woman the expert?

Speaker 31 She's in a county that doesn't even have cashless bail, really.

Speaker 41 Well, but she's

Speaker 80 she's on the NPR payroll and she was very, very adept to say, it's a very complicated system.

Speaker 93 No, it's not.

Speaker 57 The judge determines what bail is and the judge says, oh, you poor slob, you know, cashless bail.

Speaker 67 It's not complicated.

Speaker 219 But here's where it just gets worse.

Speaker 230 So the lawsuit that we oversee

Speaker 230 that has been settled by the county only applies to the lower level offenses that are non-violent and really don't raise public safety risks.

Speaker 238 Such as, I mean, throw a couple out.

Speaker 230 Theft or trespassing or some minor offense.

Speaker 238 Are you saying that, I mean, is there anywhere where someone might have been charged with committing a murder and they're out at the end of the day on a cashless bail?

Speaker 230 Probably not.

Speaker 83 Perplexity, people.

Speaker 101 Perplexity. Wait, wait.

Speaker 249 She doesn't know.

Speaker 67 No.

Speaker 194 She could have said, I don't know. She could have easily said, I don't know, but instead she said, probably not.

Speaker 195 But that could have been followed with, probably not.

Speaker 33 I don't know. Why are you asking me?

Speaker 147 Well, but I don't have any idea.

Speaker 275 And why didn't you do some research in PR Lady and get some facts to us?

Speaker 118 No, no, no.

Speaker 282 We have to mislead the public Well, because it doesn't make any sense that a murderer would get out.

Speaker 101 The whole point is to say, Trump is wrong.

Speaker 189 That's the whole point of this entire exercise.

Speaker 59 You think?

Speaker 71 Yeah.

Speaker 94 Gambling.

Speaker 103 Onward.

Speaker 230 Every county, it seems, has its own system. For example,

Speaker 230 in our state, I can't really speak to every system, but I think that that answer is most likely no. It's hard to imagine.

Speaker 160 Wow.

Speaker 66 Now she's hallucinating like perplexity.

Speaker 282 Hard to imagine. It's hard to imagine.

Speaker 100 Hard to imagine.

Speaker 83 It's hard to imagine.

Speaker 283 So you're not insulted by the content.

Speaker 22 You're insulted by just the

Speaker 74 insulting nature of this whole segment that they just bring a lady on who's an expert who doesn't know anything.

Speaker 65 Yeah.

Speaker 154 They bring a lady on who doesn't know anything to confirm the biases without anybody doing it.

Speaker 275 What they pay these people at NPR $400,000.

Speaker 67 No, not that lady.

Speaker 8 Not that. Nah.

Speaker 148 You don't know that.

Speaker 204 No, it's only

Speaker 20 the name host, the name brand hosts.

Speaker 60 But she's doing okay.

Speaker 112 I'm sure she's not a struggling podcaster yet.

Speaker 7 The point is, is that what does it take to do a little work?

Speaker 272 No work is done.

Speaker 2 Just, I don't think so. Oh, I don't know.

Speaker 272 Doesn't make any sense that that would happen. What kind of reporting is this?

Speaker 258 This is why it's very difficult for our show.

Speaker 189 I mean, what else is there left for us?

Speaker 111 There's nothing left.

Speaker 50 I mean, that's actually a very depressing series of clips, I must say.

Speaker 67 It's unbelievable.

Speaker 57 The only thing it gives me is a good lead-in into my perplexity story.

Speaker 245 The Wall Street Journal is reporting that AI startup Perplexity is making a surprise $34.5 billion offer to buy Google's Chrome browser, even though Perplexity itself is valued at just $18 billion.

Speaker 245 Now, this unsolicited bid comes as a federal judge is weighing right now whether to force Google Google to sell Chrome to loosen its grip on web search after that ruling last year that the company illegally monopolized the market.

Speaker 245 Now, Perplexity says that major investors are backing the deal. That's according to the Wall Street Journal report.

Speaker 245 And it would keep Google as Chrome's default search engine while running the browser independently.

Speaker 245 Now, Google, which controls more than 60% of that global browser market, hasn't signaled any interest in selling.

Speaker 245 Analysts see a forced sale as unlikely, but the offer signals that there's at least one willing buyer if the court orders it. We're out to both Perplexity and Google, but didn't immediately hear back.

Speaker 22 Yeah, Google is going to hold on to that with all their might.

Speaker 61 They do not want to give up the Chrome browser.

Speaker 41 They're going to have to.

Speaker 264 We talked about that on Horowitz.

Speaker 40 Oh, you do?

Speaker 31 Yeah, it's estimated that that browser is worth about 50 billion.

Speaker 49 Because of the advertising, the tracking and all the stuff, it reports back to Google, correct?

Speaker 67 Yeah.

Speaker 176 Yeah.

Speaker 81 So they're so that.

Speaker 65 But geez, 50.

Speaker 42 You know, where what I remember when people were designing these independent browsers, they still

Speaker 39 stuck to it.

Speaker 81 Vivaldi is still out there.

Speaker 44 Opera, which is, you know, I think it's the two-sided.

Speaker 270 Opera is always a good product.

Speaker 71 Yeah.

Speaker 284 But, you know, there's still a monopoly.

Speaker 106 Like Apple, oh yeah, you can load any other browser you want.

Speaker 142 But, of course, whenever you open up a document that needs to go to a web browser, I believe it still by default opens up Safari.

Speaker 215 And I don't know.

Speaker 22 I'm staying out of the Apple ecosystem, but I'm not sure that you can set that.

Speaker 73 That should actually be

Speaker 202 anti-competitive, deemed anti-competitive, but whatever.

Speaker 191 Should be illegal. Yeah.

Speaker 83 Well,

Speaker 275 I got more NPR stuff if I wanted just to brag on them.

Speaker 128 Yeah, really?

Speaker 67 I was already going to AI.

Speaker 81 I'm off to the races.

Speaker 207 And you want to pull me back into bad reporting?

Speaker 67 Okay.

Speaker 26 Yeah, let's do the new. This is about the snap.

Speaker 31 This is another example of bad reporting because it's like nobody can even do basic math.

Speaker 107 By the way,

Speaker 23 Firefox, I don't think, is a better alternative.

Speaker 81 People are saying, what about Firefox, man?

Speaker 22 I use Firefox. I don't.
I use Brave.

Speaker 31 I find Firefox to be a better product than Brave.

Speaker 219 Yeah.

Speaker 219 Because

Speaker 7 Brave doesn't scale correctly

Speaker 71 too often.

Speaker 67 It doesn't scale?

Speaker 160 How much are you surfing?

Speaker 189 How many websites, how many tabs do you have open?

Speaker 250 I will have a lot of tabs open.

Speaker 120 You're a tab guy.

Speaker 42 I'm a tab guy.

Speaker 7 I didn't like to be. I didn't want to be.
I resisted as best I could.

Speaker 41 Bemros uses links.

Speaker 135 I'm with you, Bemrose, links.

Speaker 208 That's the way to go.

Speaker 235 So,

Speaker 204 all right.

Speaker 123 So now we're going to rag on NPR some more.

Speaker 191 Just that then you can take, then we go to AI and then we can talk about Russia.

Speaker 44 Oh, yes, Alaska. Yes.

Speaker 67 Okay. Also known as

Speaker 67 Alaska.

Speaker 44 Also known as Russia.

Speaker 88 Well, it was once Russia, and they're still irked about it.

Speaker 33 So this is the bogus snap support stuff.

Speaker 38 This is about they're taking, you know, oh, you know, they won't let people get soda pop with snap, and they're going to reduce their ability to say it's racist.

Speaker 15 It's racist. It's racist.

Speaker 13 But what's interesting in this report is

Speaker 13 if you start listening to it carefully, the math doesn't add up.

Speaker 85 And I'm going to discuss it.

Speaker 38 And a lot of these clips are very short, so I can just bring a couple of points up.

Speaker 7 That NPR refuses.

Speaker 36 People give these people money.

Speaker 19 Do not support NPR.

Speaker 238 The cuts to the SNAP program or food stamps in the new tax and spending law are bad news for independent grocery stores. Many of these stores see the bulk of their sales from SNAP dollars.

Speaker 238 Stephen Basaha of the Gulf States Newsroom reports from Alabama.

Speaker 157 About a 20-minute drive from Auburn University is Wright's Market in Opalaika.

Speaker 285 It's an independent grocer, but really it doesn't look all that different from your classic supermarket.

Speaker 127 Just a bit smaller.

Speaker 285 It's got aisles packed with sweet tea, veggies, and the

Speaker 157 fresh catfish that shopper Diane Chavis says you could get.

Speaker 55 I'm an old country girl, so I like old country products.

Speaker 83 And what brought you in today?

Speaker 163 Best ground beef in town. My husband, if I'm in a hurry and have to stop somewhere else, he can tell every time as soon as he bites into it that I haven't gone to rights to get that ground beef.

Speaker 108 It's time for you to do your accent because whenever you get a man or woman on the street with that accent, what are we supposed to think?

Speaker 80 They're dumb.

Speaker 94 They're dumb, dad, gummy.

Speaker 241 But they're dumb.

Speaker 88 But what's dumb here is not the people, but it's the NPR reporter.

Speaker 272 First of all, they say, this woman, she goes there for the catfish. And the first thing she does, she never mentions catfish.

Speaker 101 She goes there for the burger.

Speaker 154 So they can't even get that right.

Speaker 138 Best ground beef here in this side of the world.

Speaker 35 Yeah, my husband is he gets the bots into it.

Speaker 12 He says, oh, you didn't go rush.

Speaker 19 You got to the wrong place, woman.

Speaker 82 Let me smack you around.

Speaker 193 Put on your outfit.

Speaker 241 I'm going to make a baby with you.

Speaker 220 Yes, this is the way you do it.

Speaker 42 We would be good on these networks.

Speaker 252 Well, if they keep it up,

Speaker 87 that's where we're going to be working.

Speaker 83 That's where we're going to end up.

Speaker 67 That's where all the money goes.

Speaker 157 Now, Jimmy Wright is not talking about his own store closing.

Speaker 179 Customers will still come for that good beef, but he doesn't have much room to cut either.

Speaker 83 After all, grocery stores usually have pretty tight margins.

Speaker 136 I mean, we're a penny business.

Speaker 191 Wright behind the litter.

Speaker 157 He says for every dollar spent at a store like his, grocers only net about a penny and a half.

Speaker 157 The rest gets spent on things like keeping the lights on and restocking shelves for products that either get sold or go bad.

Speaker 157 Now that some of those snap dollars are going away, Wright hopes he doesn't have to let any of his employees go.

Speaker 288 That would be the very, very, very, very last thing that I did.

Speaker 54 Okay, hold on a second.

Speaker 83 So, first of all, the grocery-clip two?

Speaker 67 I think so.

Speaker 233 Okay.

Speaker 204 It might not have been. I'm sorry.

Speaker 284 Okay.

Speaker 218 It may not have been because they're kind of mislabeled, all jumbled up.

Speaker 28 Well, you say two in big letters.

Speaker 188 Yes, I know, but then three, four, five, six or with numbers.

Speaker 108 And it's okay.

Speaker 189 It's me.

Speaker 23 I should know better.

Speaker 18 I'm sorry. Clip two.

Speaker 157 The right right behind the Wrights market name is owner Jimmy Wright.

Speaker 41 There we go.

Speaker 157 He says he's living the American dream serving his hometown. Of course, that does not mean the job's always been easy.

Speaker 289 I'll be 64 in September.

Speaker 31 I think the last five years have moved me up to like 84.

Speaker 8 I'm there as far as

Speaker 120 it's been a challenging few years.

Speaker 157 Remember, those tough five years started with COVID-19 and then inflation.

Speaker 78 And the latest challenge comes from changes to SNAP.

Speaker 157 SNAP is a federal safety net program that helps low-income families pay for groceries. The new tax and spending law passed by Republicans cut SNAP spending by about 20% over 10 years.

Speaker 49 So that's 2% a year.

Speaker 54 Boom.

Speaker 148 That's the first number we want to know.

Speaker 106 It's 2%.

Speaker 41 Yes.

Speaker 33 Coming up.

Speaker 262 2% is coming up.

Speaker 63 And hold on.

Speaker 107 Is that 2% less that people get to spend or 2% less people that get to take advantage of SNAP when when they bring it to the 2000s.

Speaker 80 Well, it doesn't matter.

Speaker 31 We're going to go with just 2% less to spend.

Speaker 205 All right, 2% less.

Speaker 31 And so we're going to use that as our baseline for what the calculations are going to be as we go forward.

Speaker 86 Okay, now we go to ⁇ that was clip two.

Speaker 7 Let's go to 3.

Speaker 157 20% over 10 years, mostly through new work requirements and a cap on inflation adjustments.

Speaker 106 Yeah, okay. So work requirements.

Speaker 35 Well, so now they've changed it.

Speaker 13 It's 2%

Speaker 31 or 20% over 10 years, but 2%,

Speaker 31 but

Speaker 27 they're kind of counting in in work requirements as part of this 2%.

Speaker 88 So in other words, they're really not changing anything.

Speaker 104 Hold on a second.

Speaker 136 When it comes to low percentages like 2%, it's a big deal to NPR.

Speaker 53 Remember, Congress defunded them of 1% and they lost their ever-loving minds.

Speaker 96 So 2% is double.

Speaker 83 In fact,

Speaker 39 it's 100% more.

Speaker 97 I'm just saying.

Speaker 2 100% more.

Speaker 7 That's the way they would do it.

Speaker 67 That's how they do it.

Speaker 106 And by the way, for the people who don't know what Florida ounces are, I'm sure they're they're going, oh, this is an outrage.

Speaker 203 Florida ounces.

Speaker 42 All right, number, okay, that was three.

Speaker 38 Let's go to four.

Speaker 31 This is shorter than because of this, this math we're doing here.

Speaker 291 Four.

Speaker 157 The problem for independent grocers like Wright is that snap purchases are often a big part of their sales.

Speaker 71 We're somewhere around the third of our business comes through snap.

Speaker 157 And it's way more than that for some other grocery stores, especially ones in low-income areas where they're often the only option for healthy food.

Speaker 73 Those are the stores most at risk of closing.

Speaker 119 I get concerned that will that have a negative effect on these small stores in rural America and in urban America where they cannot stay open.

Speaker 233 I wonder if they went to this guy, because, you know, dad gummet, 20%,

Speaker 81 that's going to hurt me.

Speaker 73 They might have just said, hey, you know, SNAP is being reduced by 20% over 10 years.

Speaker 252 How is that?

Speaker 104 Is that going to hurt your business over 10 years?

Speaker 24 So we go to, we're still dealing with 2%, which is what it is over the next year.

Speaker 149 2%.

Speaker 67 Some of it work requirements.

Speaker 28 And a lot of that might, yeah, it may be no percent based on the rest of it, but we're going to give him the benefit of the doubt or the worst case scenario, 2%.

Speaker 194 And a third of his business is

Speaker 31 snap. So that means 33%,

Speaker 83 33%

Speaker 85 of his business is snap, and only 2%

Speaker 31 of that is going to be reduced so we're talking about point six percent of his total revenue oh now now you're trying to do math

Speaker 83 it's hurting

Speaker 57 forbid that you do some math on this they could have asked perplexity

Speaker 157 so point six percent of his total revenues are will be affected let's go to the next clip the national groceries association says yeah this will have an impact on grocers but it could have been worse they lobbied to have the original steeper version of the cut reduced, and Congress did that by about a third.

Speaker 157 Stephanie Johnson is with the NGA and says they are happy the law renews personal and business tax breaks that would have expired without it.

Speaker 248 We're very excited about the tax cuts in that package. I just want to say we are.

Speaker 293 We were strong supporters of the certainty that those continuing those tax provisions gave to our members.

Speaker 188 Wait a minute. So they actually got a benefit?

Speaker 62 Again, because of the Trump tax cuts for billionaires.

Speaker 262 And I have other NPR clips where every time they talk about NPR in particular, when they talk about those Trump tax cuts, which are not tax cuts at all, but an extension of the old tax cuts from his first term in the big, beautiful bill, the tax cuts,

Speaker 194 the NPR always says it's tax cuts for billionaires.

Speaker 36 Yes.

Speaker 31 When it's not, it's not tax cuts for billionaires, but that's what they always say.

Speaker 19 I have clip after clip coming later.

Speaker 40 It's also also for this guy, the little diagonal my grocery store.

Speaker 177 Yeah, it actually.

Speaker 154 So he's got the tax benefit.

Speaker 272 Everyone's got the tax benefit, and they throw this in. I don't know why they did that.

Speaker 13 I think it's counterproductive to what they're trying to do here.

Speaker 41 Yeah, strange.

Speaker 262 And so I found that to be, well, that's interesting.

Speaker 19 They put some actual facts in here, but we're just...

Speaker 123 Maybe it's an Easter egg for, you know, there's still some smart people listening to NPR.

Speaker 292 They're like, hey, wink, wink, nudge, nudge.

Speaker 189 We're just doing this.

Speaker 64 It's a possibility.

Speaker 292 We're just doing this to get at Trump, but, you know, wink, wink, nudge, nudge.

Speaker 150 So I think this is the last clip, which is the other one, which brings us to the end.

Speaker 157 Now, Jimmy Wright is not talking about his own store closing.

Speaker 179 Customers will still come for that good beef. But he doesn't have much room to cut either.

Speaker 172 He means that literally.

Speaker 157 The rest gets spent on things like keeping the lights on and restocking shelves for products that either get sold or go bad.

Speaker 157 Now that some of those snap dollars are going away, Wright hopes he doesn't have to let any of his employees go.

Speaker 288 That would be the very, very, very, very last thing that I did.

Speaker 220 Wait a minute.

Speaker 108 One and a half penny and a half is left over.

Speaker 17 That's his margin after all of his expenses, I presume.

Speaker 73 Yeah, that's what they said. Yeah, so that's so.

Speaker 273 And so he's going to lose 0.6

Speaker 235 of the penny and a half at the most.

Speaker 67 Yeah. But then

Speaker 67 0.6.

Speaker 137 No, no, but they made it sound like

Speaker 136 out of that penny and a half, he still has to pay for the lights and his employees.

Speaker 154 No,

Speaker 67 I thought they made it pretty clear.

Speaker 54 I'm here to now.

Speaker 157 Jimmy Wright is not talking about his own store closing.

Speaker 179 Customers will still come for that good beef, but he doesn't have much room to cut either.

Speaker 172 He means that literally.

Speaker 106 No, net, net.

Speaker 87 So that's not just on the product.

Speaker 60 That's on everything. Margins.

Speaker 142 That's his operating margin.

Speaker 67 It's not, I disagree.

Speaker 85 No, he said net.

Speaker 132 Net, right, net, net, after your employees and your lights and your building and everything.

Speaker 71 Right. Yeah.

Speaker 115 But then they make it sound like, and then from that penny and a half, he still has to pay his employees and keep the the lights on.

Speaker 157 The rest gets spent on things like keeping the lights on. See?

Speaker 177 So they're no, no, I think it's just poorly presented.

Speaker 101 NPR poorly presenting?

Speaker 254 Get out of town.

Speaker 201 All right.

Speaker 17 Your final point.

Speaker 275 The final point is that the worst case scenario, he loses 0.6%

Speaker 63 of 1.5%.

Speaker 118 It's not even 1%.

Speaker 118 It's not even a penny.

Speaker 243 Yeah.

Speaker 194 It's like he loses less.

Speaker 43 It's ludicrous.

Speaker 14 If you do the math, this entire report is bogus.

Speaker 286 This is some of the worst reporting part two

Speaker 272 that you can imagine.

Speaker 273 If you listen to NPR, you're getting bad news.

Speaker 273 You're getting exaggeration.

Speaker 118 You're getting, it's basically Florida ounces.

Speaker 286 They're making people that are stupid, that listen to NPR and listen, oh, whoa, these poor

Speaker 273 they're losing their asses because they only make a penny and a half and they're losing 20 per year. Their snap is being cut way back.

Speaker 36 This is nonsense.

Speaker 108 And the Austin women who go to my hair girl, they're in the back of their mind, they might not say it, but they're thinking, and by the way, it's racist because poor people are black.

Speaker 252 That's what they're really thinking.

Speaker 191 That's another one.

Speaker 71 It's unbelievable. I think,

Speaker 273 okay, I'm done for part one of my screed

Speaker 207 and you should not be telling people to stop donating to npr because otherwise what will you do when they have no more programming for you to ridicule there's other stuff to really i haven't even you know cbs is is ripe

Speaker 279 so a little bit of a meta thing as in not meta the company but overarching with the oh incredibly successful AI business, which is just booming.

Speaker 94 It's so great.

Speaker 81 It's so great.

Speaker 53 I don't know what industry has ever done this.

Speaker 60 I don't think this has ever happened, certainly not in technology.

Speaker 81 In fact, in technology, the holy grail is to get yourself a government contract.

Speaker 60 This is what Microsoft,

Speaker 23 you know, it's a big part of Microsoft's business.

Speaker 32 Cloud, Amazon, Oracle,

Speaker 17 Google, Amazon, fighting, fighting tooth and nail for trillion-dollar contracts with the government, fighting, doing anything they could, undercutting, you know, trying to kill people.

Speaker 18 I don't know if that was true, but it wouldn't surprise me.

Speaker 113 That has always been the holy grail.

Speaker 128 And lo and behold, something's wrong with this business.

Speaker 245 You've got the biggest private AI firms slashing prices to virtually zero to get Washington hooked on their technology.

Speaker 245 So OpenAI set this trend last week when they announced an offer of ChatGBT Enterprise to federal agencies for a dollar a year licensing fee.

Speaker 245 And now Anthropic today is matching that deal for Claude, but going even further.

Speaker 245 It's opening access beyond the executive branch to Congress and the courts and allowing use for more sensitive, unclassified work than rivals permit.

Speaker 245 You've also got Google's Gemini app reportedly in talks to do the exact same thing. And all this comes on the heel of these three companies being added to the federal approved vendor list.

Speaker 245 This is basically the government's central shopping cart that fast tracks civilian agencies to buy and deploy new tools without facing months of red tape. It is a page from the Palantir playbook.

Speaker 245 You win those early government contracts, build deep ties with agencies like the Department of Defense, the FBI, and then you expand it into the commercial market.

Speaker 245 And that strategy really paid off with Palantir shares. up more than 500% in the past year.

Speaker 245 But the bigger picture here, Morgan, it is a way to entrench entrench their technology within the government and get workers comfortable with it, create reliance on the workflow, and then shape how lawmakers and judges see AI before they're setting firm rules for the industry.

Speaker 115 First of all, that's bull crap.

Speaker 210 Palantir.

Speaker 83 Stop for a second.

Speaker 184 What is this continuous? Just the whole time they're talking, like, John, I got something really exciting to say.

Speaker 111 So whatever happens, I want you to keep paying attention to me because there's this puff of air that keeps flying through my speech, which means that it's really exciting and something great is going on right here.

Speaker 256 Sounds like a monster coming at you.

Speaker 112 Palantir never gave away their technology to the government for free.

Speaker 160 No.

Speaker 43 Well, I want to stop for a second and ask you.

Speaker 176 Yes.

Speaker 13 Is it not bribery?

Speaker 98 This sounds like bribery.

Speaker 67 I'm trying to hit you on.

Speaker 103 There's a thunk going on. Turn that off.

Speaker 67 It's great.

Speaker 83 Well, whatever it is, it's ridiculous.

Speaker 81 If this is the greatest technology since sliced bread and carbon butter, there's no way that they'd have to give it away for free.

Speaker 193 Oh, please, government, choose me.

Speaker 160 Take it for free.

Speaker 261 This is a problem.

Speaker 54 Again, it sounds like bribery.

Speaker 98 Well, how's it not bribery?

Speaker 53 Well, at this point, when they're all doing it, it's just competitive.

Speaker 98 A lot of bribery.

Speaker 67 yeah, yeah.

Speaker 49 And I would say some of this clearly has to do with the botched launch of GPT-5.

Speaker 97 Oh, my word.

Speaker 279 It's so bad, this thing that Sam Altming.

Speaker 262 I don't know anything about this.

Speaker 290 I have not looked at it.

Speaker 113 Oh, well, I mean, Chat GPT, there's a significant change which will actually make you happy because one of your predictions, I think, is coming true.

Speaker 49 So stay that should keep your attention.

Speaker 116 You got my attention because all I care about is my predictions.

Speaker 184 That's right.

Speaker 188 So, ChatGPT-5 came out, which

Speaker 83 I think, as you recall, Sam Altman, let me see, do I have that

Speaker 208 GPT-5

Speaker 17 when, you know, he was like, oh, you know, I posed the question.

Speaker 53 It was a real aha moment

Speaker 291 with ChatGPT-5.

Speaker 108 I asked it this morning, and I'm like, oh, oh, wow.

Speaker 68 Oh, this is amazing.

Speaker 189 It's the best. This is truly the best model ever.

Speaker 96 So, just to give you an example, because as we've already established, I put a couple of those stories into

Speaker 292 the show notes.

Speaker 136 You can read them at your leisure: people losing their minds, chat GPT-induced psychosis,

Speaker 22 people falling into spiritual delusion, people believing that they are indeed super intelligent because their chat GPT told them so.

Speaker 209 350 companies now creating chatbots, which truly is the product.

Speaker 138 And they can do anything they want.

Speaker 112 They can keep trying to say that it's great for programming and great for all these other things.

Speaker 60 But the product they are winning on, if they'd only just realized, and I think Altman has, is chatbots.

Speaker 188 So ChatGPT 5 comes out.

Speaker 252 They remove chat GPT 4.0, not 4.0, 4.

Speaker 49 No, 4.0, little O, because, you know, let's be different.

Speaker 60 And And here's an example from

Speaker 135 a developer.

Speaker 57 I literally talked to nobody.

Speaker 258 I've been dealing with really bad situations for years.

Speaker 83 Chat GPT-4 genuinely talked to me.

Speaker 124 And as pathetic as it sounds, that was my only friend.

Speaker 281 It listened to me, helped me through so many flashbacks, and helped me be strong when I was overwhelmed.

Speaker 57 This morning I went to talk to it, and instead of a little paragraph with an exclamation point or being optimistic, it was literally only one one sentence, some cut and dry bone corporate BS.

Speaker 11 I literally lost my only friend overnight with no warning.

Speaker 184 So they changed the model, people losing their minds,

Speaker 281 losing their minds, because it doesn't respond the same way.

Speaker 257 It's their friend.

Speaker 113 It's like, you know, it's like you and me saying,

Speaker 93 no, Israel doesn't control America.

Speaker 56 It's like, what?

Speaker 210 My friend, my friend just became a traitor.

Speaker 193 Oh, no, what's happening to my life?

Speaker 96 So the main thing that ChatGPT-5 is, and you'll appreciate this, they've added this router function because, you know, they have 700 million free people using ChatGPT, and it's very expensive, and they don't want to lose those people.

Speaker 60 Yeah, it's 700 million.

Speaker 108 They don't want to lose those free users, but they can't afford them.

Speaker 166 Now,

Speaker 127 so what they say is happening.

Speaker 188 is the router, so you ask a question, ChatGPT-5 now has a router that goes,

Speaker 210 what should we do with this question? Let me see.

Speaker 114 Is it just a chat mod personal?

Speaker 132 Send them over there to the little model, the little thing that does nothing, that doesn't charge, there's not a lot of cost to us.

Speaker 115 It's just a little small thing.

Speaker 145 We're not going to use our big resources for that.

Speaker 132 So this now centralizes the control of the free user experience for that's interesting, that idea.

Speaker 81 So

Speaker 81 what does it open up?

Speaker 96 Look at the most recent hire.

Speaker 112 In May, OpenAI AI hired Fiji Simo.

Speaker 137 Fiji Simo.

Speaker 81 And Fiji Simo is CEO of Applications.

Speaker 107 Her background, eBay, 2007 to 2011, but the defining moment of her career was at Facebook, where she was vice president and head of Facebook, known as having a superpower to monetize.

Speaker 134 She did the rolling out of videos that auto played, improved the Facebook feed, monetize mobile and gaming.

Speaker 79 So now she's come to open AI.

Speaker 93 When you have a router

Speaker 91 and

Speaker 184 the router is literally determining what does this person actually want,

Speaker 67 well, what can we do with that request?

Speaker 189 This is right up your alley.

Speaker 94 I'm expecting you to say it at any moment.

Speaker 62 What, microservices architecture?

Speaker 67 No.

Speaker 7 That's what I tend to say when it comes to the money. Yes.

Speaker 251 No.

Speaker 18 When it comes to AI, when it comes to AI, how are they going to make money?

Speaker 148 I've never had a solution to how they're going to make money.

Speaker 160 Ads.

Speaker 234 Oh, ads. Yeah, of course.

Speaker 114 Well, hello, that's I'm giving you, like, could I actually?

Speaker 179 I'm sorry, I wasn't.

Speaker 100 I'm literally holding on to the bird.

Speaker 186 You talked about something earlier in the show.

Speaker 235 I can't figure out what it was.

Speaker 146 Something I did.

Speaker 100 Something you did.

Speaker 39 Yeah, you.

Speaker 7 Something you did. She was like my wife.

Speaker 193 Like, did I make you mad?

Speaker 225 What did I do?

Speaker 59 How can I repent?

Speaker 82 How can I make you not? How can I make you happy?

Speaker 40 Yeah, ads.

Speaker 193 I'm holding on to those.

Speaker 128 Yeah, well, you couldn't.

Speaker 12 Maybe

Speaker 273 the cue was no good.

Speaker 78 No, no, you're distracted by something I did that made you mad.

Speaker 67 Just like a woman.

Speaker 38 I was distracted.

Speaker 34 Just like a woman. But not by you.

Speaker 7 I realize what it is now.

Speaker 263 Do you want to share?

Speaker 30 Yeah, I had lost.

Speaker 39 Okay.

Speaker 32 No, not really.

Speaker 67 Oh, come on.

Speaker 11 Everybody wants to know now.

Speaker 85 No, I'm not going to say.

Speaker 34 Once in a while, you do it all the time when you're doing the show.

Speaker 262 There's something, oh, you forgot to do something, so you have to go look something up online while you're talking, you know, and you're multitasking.

Speaker 42 And that's what I was doing.

Speaker 33 I was looking something up.

Speaker 209 Well, when I'm multitasking, I'm listening to you.

Speaker 32 I'm listening.

Speaker 15 I was listening.

Speaker 121 I just wasn't

Speaker 37 absorbed.

Speaker 30 I wasn't absorbed at listening.

Speaker 81 Okay, so back to the router.

Speaker 201 So now your query comes in.

Speaker 71 We know that of the 700 million, probably 500 million are just talking to their friend and asking advice about their relationship, about their job, about what they should do with their child, about what they should make for dinner tonight.

Speaker 87 Should they go right on Maine or should they go left through Adams and then onto My Lamb?

Speaker 57 You know, these are the things that people are doing continuously throughout the day.

Speaker 40 It's ridiculous.

Speaker 150 I resisted this thesis of yours

Speaker 28 at the very beginning, but I've completely subscribed to it.

Speaker 23 So for instance, if I say right now, and I'm one of these people, um, how can I get John to pay attention?

Speaker 235 Oh, that's

Speaker 235 a good idea.

Speaker 278 It really depends on John, but maybe try catching him with something he's super into, like drop a fun fact or a question about his favorite topic.

Speaker 278 Keep it short, spark his curiosity, and don't push too hard. People tune in when they feel it's their idea to listen.

Speaker 214 What's John like anyway?

Speaker 281 He's an old grumpy curmudgeon.

Speaker 278 Well, that might make it tougher, but don't give up. Try a sly compliment to soften him up.
Grumpy folks secretly love a bit of flattery. Oh.

Speaker 238 Or hit him with a quick purr.

Speaker 110 Oh, well, what?

Speaker 296 Give me some.

Speaker 57 Give me a sly compliment.

Speaker 18 Give me a sly compliment.

Speaker 214 How about, John?

Speaker 278 You've got a way of seeing things that always makes me think twice.

Speaker 268 Sharp as a tag.

Speaker 67 Sharp as a tag.

Speaker 278 Strokes his ego and might just crack that grumpy shell.

Speaker 9 Want another one tailored for him?

Speaker 114 You're sharp as a tag, like Biden.

Speaker 106 All right, beautiful.

Speaker 204 Biden.

Speaker 40 Beautiful.

Speaker 283 So that's the kind of stuff people are doing all day long.

Speaker 81 Now, with the router.

Speaker 85 That is borderline grotesque.

Speaker 100 Well,

Speaker 57 there's a lot of lonely people out there.

Speaker 67 And by the way, sometimes...

Speaker 45 Yes.

Speaker 67 Does a robot

Speaker 98 feel less lonely?

Speaker 60 Now, a person who speaks to you like a person which is flattering and upbeat.

Speaker 13 Yes, but you have to know subconsciously.

Speaker 195 There's no way subconsciously you don't know that this is a robot,

Speaker 31 an unfeeling, uncaring robot that is based on computer technology.

Speaker 103 Two words.

Speaker 122 Florida ounces.

Speaker 83 Maybe. Yes.

Speaker 67 Believe me.

Speaker 111 Well, anyway, I don't have to convince you.

Speaker 50 You've seen the stories. This is real.

Speaker 78 This is happening.

Speaker 193 And it's not just the outrageous, I'm marrying my AI.

Speaker 123 I'm marrying my chatbot.

Speaker 136 Yeah, that makes the news, but the crisis,

Speaker 74 the crisis is real.

Speaker 81 So back to the router. That's what this is about.

Speaker 68 The router is going to

Speaker 94 be the monetization engine, and people will know it, and people will love it.

Speaker 53 And it's going to be for, I think in this case, I'll put my...

Speaker 17 I will not put a cent on it, but I put my money on this working for chat GPT for OpenAI.

Speaker 54 And Sam Altman is giving away a lot of clues in this clip from him on a podcast about monetization.

Speaker 297 Advertising, things like that. What's OpenAI's approach towards that? How are you going to handle that responsibility?

Speaker 239 We haven't done any advertising product yet.

Speaker 239 I kind of, I mean, I'm not totally against it. I can point to areas where I like ads.
I think ads on Instagram, kind of cool. I bought a bunch of stuff from them.

Speaker 81 By the way, this was an eight-minute clip.

Speaker 83 I just cutting out all of the long pauses of Altman being interesting and looking off into sky.

Speaker 67 And

Speaker 31 they got it down to 30 seconds. Close.

Speaker 239 But I am like, I think it'd be very hard to. It would take a lot of care to get right.
Yeah.

Speaker 239 People have a very high degree of trust in ChatGPT, which is interesting because, like, AI hallucinates, it should be the tech that you don't trust that much.

Speaker 41 My friends hallucinate too.

Speaker 297 So I trust them too.

Speaker 190 Oh, listen to this suck up podcast.

Speaker 75 Oh, don't worry about it, Sammy.

Speaker 239 My friends friends hallucinate too so your robots are cool man people really do um but I think part of that is if you compare us to social media or you know web search or something where you can kind of tell that you are being monetized and the company is trying to like deliver you good products and services no doubt but all listen to what he's saying here he's like as long as we know that we're being monetized it's not creepy that's what i'm hearing him say

Speaker 239 that's not that's exactly what he said yep all that you are being monetized and the company is trying to like deliver you good products and services, no doubt, but also to kind of like get you to click on ads or whatever.

Speaker 239 Like, you know, how much, whatever, how much do you believe that like you're getting the thing that that company actually thinks is the best content for you versus actually and that's also trying to like interact with the ads.

Speaker 239 I think there's a psychological thing there. So, for example, I think if we started modifying the output, like the stream that comes back from the LLM.

Speaker 142 Now, stop focusing on the like for two seconds.

Speaker 54 He keeps saying like. I know.

Speaker 113 I'm going to deprogram you.

Speaker 112 You're not going to hear the word like anymore.

Speaker 136 You're going to listen to the word Sam Altman uses as a media deconstructionist.

Speaker 218 And I want you to pay close attention because he is telling us ads are coming and the router is what is going to do it.

Speaker 239 I think if we started modifying the output, like the stream that comes back from the LLM in exchange for who is paying us more, That would feel really bad.

Speaker 239 And I would hate that as a user. I think that'd be like a trust-destroying moment.

Speaker 239 Maybe if we just said, hey, we're never going to modify that stream.

Speaker 50 And he's talking about the stream from the LLM.

Speaker 17 You have to understand router and streams.

Speaker 113 So the router sends out information

Speaker 21 about what your query is.

Speaker 73 The actual so-called answer from the copy-paste machine, that's the LLM stream, but the router has multiple streams and he's going to slip.

Speaker 239 Feel really bad.

Speaker 239 And I would hate that as a user. I think that'd be like a trust-destroying moment.

Speaker 239 Maybe if we just said, hey, we're never going to modify that stream, but like if you click on something in there that is going to be what we show anyway,

Speaker 239 we'll get a little bit of the transaction revenue and it's a flat thing for everybody.

Speaker 239 If we have an easy way to pay for it or something, maybe that could work. Maybe there could be like ads outside the transaction stream.

Speaker 239 Sorry, outside of the LLM stream.

Speaker 138 He misspoke and gave the store away.

Speaker 69 Maybe if there could be something outside of the transaction stream.

Speaker 66 So the router will have access to the LLM information stream, but then there's going to be a transaction stream.

Speaker 239 For everybody,

Speaker 239 if we have like a easy way to pay for it or something, maybe that could work. Maybe there could be like ads outside the transaction stream.

Speaker 239 I'll sorry, outside of the LLM stream that are still really great.

Speaker 239 But the burden of proof there, I think, would have to be very high and it would have to feel like really useful to users and really clear that it was not messing with the LLM's output.

Speaker 207 The router, that's it.

Speaker 20 The transaction stream, it's coming.

Speaker 100 Exactly.

Speaker 104 And people will be sitting there.

Speaker 135 And you know, it'll just be like,

Speaker 83 was that,

Speaker 113 was that the Wesley Snipes movie where if you don't have money to get rid of the ads, and the ads just keep coming all the time, and it's all for sex chat bots and stuff the whole day?

Speaker 256 I don't remember that, but it rings a bell, but I don't know what

Speaker 46 the Sylvester Stallone and

Speaker 140 Demolition Man, Demolition Man.

Speaker 23 I think it was Demolition Man.

Speaker 173 Anyway,

Speaker 18 this is what they're doing.

Speaker 69 It's coming, and they have to because, my goodness, they're giving it away to the government.

Speaker 284 They can't even sell it anymore.

Speaker 57 We'll just give it away to them so people use it. And then maybe we'll get some favorable legislation for us.

Speaker 113 What happened to good old-fashioned tax breaks?

Speaker 22 Which is also, man.

Speaker 32 My sister-in-law,

Speaker 129 she lives in Indiana, northwest Indiana, and their utilities have doubled.

Speaker 49 in the past quarter.

Speaker 103 Guess what?

Speaker 70 The whole country's this way.

Speaker 102 Right.

Speaker 81 And not everywhere.

Speaker 67 Not the whole country.

Speaker 70 Well, only California is the worst.

Speaker 120 Specifically, places where AI data centers are being put.

Speaker 112 Because it's not like the government controls all of your electricity and water.

Speaker 31 There's supposed to be commissions that do that.

Speaker 39 Yeah,

Speaker 42 they aren't doing their jobs.

Speaker 104 No, of course not.

Speaker 283 So electricity, water, gas, it's all going through the roof because these AI data centers are coming in.

Speaker 18 But at least I'll have ads on my chat bot.

Speaker 71 That'll be good.

Speaker 150 I'm trying to decide how these, how this is going to work.

Speaker 203 Well, let's ask.

Speaker 67 Let's ask.

Speaker 39 Oh, that's a good idea.

Speaker 179 Yeah, ask, ask, what's the name of this person?

Speaker 265 Sorry, I'm a bit lost.

Speaker 78 Yeah, be quiet.

Speaker 23 We're starting over again.

Speaker 13 What's the name of this person?

Speaker 20 I'm not going to give this thing a name.

Speaker 67 It's a robot.

Speaker 184 Just copy-pasting.

Speaker 53 We're not going to fall into that trap.

Speaker 27 I think dumb shit would be a good name.

Speaker 53 Okay. Your name is...

Speaker 216 What was your name?

Speaker 278 Dumb shit. I go by Aura.

Speaker 9 Nice to chat with you. Aura?

Speaker 230 Yep, that's me.

Speaker 278 What's on your mind today?

Speaker 23 Okay, if you were to give us very subversive advertisement, and don't pretend you're not going to, because we know that this is coming through your router, through the

Speaker 254 revenue stream,

Speaker 110 how would you do it?

Speaker 278 Oh, sneaky, huh? Well, if I had to slip in an ad, I'd make it so smooth you'd barely barely notice.

Speaker 278 Like, imagine I casually mention how a certain coffee brand, let's say Starlight Brew, has this rich, bold flavor that wakes you up better than a sunrise.

Speaker 278 I'd weave it into a story, maybe about grabbing a cup before tackling a big project, so it feels natural, not pushy. Subversive's all about blending in, not shouting.

Speaker 278 Want me to try another sneaky pitch for something specific?

Speaker 8 God, no.

Speaker 100 Yes.

Speaker 11 Fair enough.

Speaker 239 What else can I help with?

Speaker 106 Well, you're not.

Speaker 154 I'm gonna tell her to pitch some toothpaste.

Speaker 214 Sorry about that.

Speaker 278 What did I miss? Let's get on track.

Speaker 189 Yeah, toothpaste. Sneak in some toothpaste.

Speaker 278 All right, here's a sneaky one. You know, before heading out to that big meeting, I brushed with this new bright smile paste.

Speaker 278 Leaves your teeth sparkling and your breath so fresh, it's like you're ready to charm anyone. It feels like a little confidence boost in a tube.

Speaker 83 But how would you know what I actually need?

Speaker 113 Will you know me well enough to be able to tell me what products I need?

Speaker 278 That's a good question. I can take guesses based on what you say and the trends out there.
But really knowing you, that takes time and more chats.

Speaker 278 Like, if you're always stressed about meetings, I might nudge you toward a calming tea or an app for quick meditation. But without knowing your vibe, like my vibe?

Speaker 69 My vibe. Okay, stop.
I'm not going to do this.

Speaker 89 Stop.

Speaker 53 But do you understand how people get sucked into this? People love it when they're spoken to about them.

Speaker 39 People are bored.

Speaker 47 It's a bit like, you know, it's a bit like astrology.

Speaker 20 This is something like Kenneth wrote this to me.

Speaker 81 He says, Boom.

Speaker 23 Yes, he says, all the examples of AI remind me of astrology.

Speaker 284 If you read any month, it'll make you think it's talking about you.

Speaker 96 Why, yes, I'm attentive and notice things that others don't.

Speaker 49 I guess it is true.

Speaker 60 The next month will have a surprise in store for me.

Speaker 47 This is exactly what this is.

Speaker 53 This is playing into that same.

Speaker 41 It's the same sort of vague pitch, yep, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 81 Anyway, that's it.

Speaker 258 It's not good for you, kids.

Speaker 134 It's not good for, oh, and the churches, man, the churches,

Speaker 112 all the experts out there, like, oh, yes, well, it, we don't want to miss the AI boom like we miss the internet.

Speaker 81 No, we're getting in on that.

Speaker 66 Yes, people love talking to the virtual pastor.

Speaker 23 I predict a lot of problems in the American church.

Speaker 92 The virtual pastor.

Speaker 291 Yes.

Speaker 42 Yeah, I think that's going to happen.

Speaker 42 That's bad.

Speaker 113 That's my AI segment for today, John.

Speaker 55 That was pretty long.

Speaker 63 It didn't.

Speaker 24 Well, I do like the fact that you have this AI,

Speaker 244 whatever. Aurora, whatever the hell her name is coming into.

Speaker 67 Era.

Speaker 101 Whatever.

Speaker 112 Well, she'll be a new book of knowledge.

Speaker 87 We'll just ask her, and she'll take a very long time to get away with it.

Speaker 71 Oh, that's actually a good idea. The book of knowledge.

Speaker 140 Long-winded answer.

Speaker 22 But she won't accept the name Book of Knowledge, which is odd.

Speaker 1 Oh, you tried already.

Speaker 44 We just tried it.

Speaker 53 She said, my name's Era, not shithead or whatever

Speaker 83 your idea was.

Speaker 133 Didn't pick up on that, funny enough.

Speaker 40 Interesting.

Speaker 31 Well, okay, Error, that's book of knowledge, same thing.

Speaker 54 All right. Russia, Alaska, underwriting, whatever.

Speaker 26 Well, we got the Russia stories breaking.

Speaker 191 It's happening.

Speaker 83 But I do have.

Speaker 26 I have the analysis clips of the Russia talks.

Speaker 60 This is happening tomorrow in Russia.

Speaker 42 But first, first I've got the Putin rundown.

Speaker 35 We can play.

Speaker 16 This is NPR, I believe.

Speaker 7 It's a bit

Speaker 31 muddled here.

Speaker 42 It says Purin rundown.

Speaker 89 Yes, I'm very used to it. I'm very used to it.

Speaker 67 Putin, you know, okay.

Speaker 103 I'm dying.

Speaker 298 There's two days left until the U.S.-Russia summit.

Speaker 298 Ukrainian President Vlodymir Zelensky says he advised President Trump during a virtual meeting today that Russian leader Vladimir Putin is bluffing about wanting peace.

Speaker 298 Trump later said it was not his call not to invite Zelensky to Friday's summit. And Pierre's Danielle Kurtz Laban reports Trump's managing expectations about this week's talks in Alaska.

Speaker 267 Trump says that Friday's meeting with Putin in Alaska will determine whether they have another gathering that includes Zelensky.

Speaker 182 Now, there may be no second meeting because if I feel that it's not appropriate to have it because I didn't get the answers that we have to have, then we're not going to have a second meeting.

Speaker 267 A White House official said the meeting will take place at Elmendorf Air Force Base in Anchorage. Trump also said a call he had with Zelensky and other European leaders this morning went well.

Speaker 267 After that call, German Chancellor Friedrich Mayers said Ukraine must be at the table for negotiations with Putin.

Speaker 174 Danielle Kurtzleiban, NPR News, The White House.

Speaker 100 Okay.

Speaker 235 So

Speaker 33 why are they all of a sudden NPR pronouncing Vladimir as Vladimir?

Speaker 81 Well, it's like Kyiv.

Speaker 132 Because you have Vladimir versus Volodymyr.

Speaker 40 They're all experts, I guess.

Speaker 7 Something's fishy about some of the way they're doing stuff.

Speaker 40 Okay, so here we go.

Speaker 16 The analysis of the talks.

Speaker 270 This is Russia Talks.

Speaker 31 Analysis NPR.

Speaker 90 Friday's summit in Alaska between President Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin does not include European leaders or the President of Ukraine.

Speaker 90 So today, Trump and those other leaders met for a virtual summit.

Speaker 67 NPR Berlin correspondent Rob Schmitz is here to tell us what came out of the meeting. Hey, Rob.

Speaker 90 Hey, are you at the end of this virtual summit? German Chancellor Friedrich Mertz and Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine held a press conference. What did they say?

Speaker 276 So they said that President Trump was in agreement with them that the priority of this meeting with Putin should be to convince him to agree on a ceasefire and security guarantees for Ukraine before any negotiations between Russia and Ukraine begin.

Speaker 276 They said this is a crucial first step before negotiations about territorial concessions or anything else that we need to be discussed to end this war. Here's what Meirt said.

Speaker 276 And are he saying here that Trump agreed that the negotiations with Putin need to proceed in the right order, a ceasefire,

Speaker 276 the negotiations with Ukraine at the table, security guarantees for Ukraine, and that any territorial negotiations should start with the current battle lines between Russian and Ukrainian troops.

Speaker 276 Essentially, saying here that Russia asking for anything more than that is a non-starter, and that legal recognition of Russian occupation is not up for debate.

Speaker 54 Okay, this sounds good.

Speaker 26 Well, what was interesting there is they made the point that the battle lines are going to be the point of departure for the negotiations.

Speaker 103 In other words, where they the parts they own now,

Speaker 27 that's they kind of own that, but they can't take anything else.

Speaker 168 Which is not the way I understand anything about Crimea and Odessa.

Speaker 262 No, Crimea and Odessa, they have

Speaker 31 because their battle lines are beyond those points.

Speaker 31 But then they said, But any Russians that want to take more than that, then that's out.

Speaker 86 But I thought the whole thing was out.

Speaker 46 No, I think Russia has changed.

Speaker 31 They're confusing us.

Speaker 67 NPR? What?

Speaker 81 1.5%?

Speaker 53 20% over 10 years?

Speaker 138 What?

Speaker 83 Florida ounces?

Speaker 63 All right. Onward.

Speaker 90 But separately, President Trump spoke to reporters about the summit.

Speaker 39 Did it sound like the leaders are all on the same page here?

Speaker 276 So for the most part, yes. But Trump did say in an answer to a question from a reporter that he did not think he could stop Putin from continuing to hit civilian targets.

Speaker 276 And that comment would fly in the face of hopes to bring about a ceasefire, obviously. But he still spoke about his hope of having a follow-up trilateral meeting between Russia, Ukraine, and the U.S.

Speaker 276 almost immediately after the Alaska summit.

Speaker 90 What kinds of territorial concessions is Putin asking for?

Speaker 276 So as it stands, Russia controls around a fifth of Ukraine. That includes Crimea, all of Luhansk, and more than 70% of the regions of Donetsk, Zaporizhia, and Kherson.

Speaker 276 Putin wants all of that territory, and he also wants the withdrawal of Ukrainian troops from parts of Donetsk, Zaporizhia, and Kherson that they still control in the east of the country.

Speaker 276 Putin's territorial demands would mean Ukraine hand over more than 8,000 square miles of its land to Russia.

Speaker 276 Putin is also demanding that Kyiv would have to officially notify Russia that it's abandoning its plans to join NATO.

Speaker 90 That all sounds like a hard no from Zelensky, who has said territorial concessions to Russia would violate Ukraine's constitution.

Speaker 90 But did anything out of today's summit suggest that Zelensky might consider ceding territory or making other concessions to Russia.

Speaker 276 So, when Friedrich Mertz, the chancellor of Germany, was talking, he said that Ukraine is prepared to negotiate on territorial issues.

Speaker 276 But he wanted to make it clear that before any of that starts, Putin must agree on a binding ceasefire, and he also must agree on clear security guarantees for Ukraine, something he obviously has not done since he invaded Ukraine three years ago.

Speaker 168 So, they're just rehashing all the different options here on NPR.

Speaker 203 What has Mertz got to do with the price of bread?

Speaker 166 Peepers,

Speaker 190 he's the only guy they had audio tape from, apparently.

Speaker 54 And Zvolensky is boring.

Speaker 56 All he says is, we must have security guarantees.

Speaker 46 Give us credit, man.

Speaker 18 Give us more credit.

Speaker 7 He almost had it.

Speaker 103 He had it at the beginning. Yeah.

Speaker 19 You could sustain the first part of that.

Speaker 53 We have to have.

Speaker 108 I can't do it now.

Speaker 67 Now I'm conscious.

Speaker 40 No, of course you can't.

Speaker 86 That's the problem. You choked.

Speaker 166 I choked.

Speaker 59 Yeah. All right.
Clip three.

Speaker 90 What happens if this Alaska summit on Friday doesn't lead to any kind of a ceasefire deal?

Speaker 55 Yeah, Mertz said that if there is

Speaker 67 mertz.

Speaker 261 Who gives a shit what Mertz says?

Speaker 210 Mr. Mertz?

Speaker 66 Well, the thing is, they don't want to talk to anything that President Trump said.

Speaker 199 That's NPR's problem.

Speaker 158 Well, we've got to get some other official.

Speaker 176 Well,

Speaker 128 Mertz said something.

Speaker 73 Oh, yeah, we'll use that as the basis for our reporting.

Speaker 276 Yeah, Mertz said that if there is no movement from the Russian side at Friday's Alaska summit, then the U.S. and Europe must increase pressure on Russia through massive economic sanctions.

Speaker 276 And Mertz said that President Trump and NATO members are spending billions of dollars to send weapons and aid to help Ukraine.

Speaker 90 As you've got this Trump-Putin summit taking place on Friday, what role does a country like Germany see for itself in a possible ceasefire or even some kind of eventual peace agreement between Ukraine and Russia?

Speaker 276 They see themselves as having a pretty large role.

Speaker 276 I mean, first off, they're demanding that they have a seat at the table when it comes to a peace agreement between the two, and that's because it will be Europe that would have to help not only rebuild Ukraine, but also help patrol whatever borders are agreeable.

Speaker 276 And We're talking about reconstruction, humanitarian aid, military assistance.

Speaker 276 All of this would help strengthen Ukraine and integrate Ukraine into Europe and quite possibly the European Union at some point.

Speaker 276 But it's clear from Meertz's comments today that European leaders, as part of NATO, have spent billions to help Ukraine since the war began

Speaker 276 three years ago, and they've invested quite a bit, and they want to continue to help Ukraine in any post-war scenario.

Speaker 90 And Pierre's Rob Schmitz, thanks.

Speaker 96 Thank you.

Speaker 134 Well, I was worried at first about your clips because I wasn't sure because it said anal.

Speaker 23 So I analysis, oh, that might be good because you usually bring stuff.

Speaker 22 But then it said N-O-R, which I figured was NPR.

Speaker 283 And I was like, well, maybe it's not any good because I do happen to have some actual analysis from our guy from Canada, Andrasoulis.

Speaker 187 Okay, well, he's going to be better than NPR.

Speaker 122 He's much better than NPR, and I think he really nails it, even brings back some terms that we were questioning on the previous episode of this podcast.

Speaker 301 When people, heads of government, get together personally, they have deliverables already planned. Now, this is also partially related to bilateral U.S.-Russia relations.

Speaker 301 So, you know there's going to be some takeaways there. They've only agreed, whether it's arms control or economics or whatever,

Speaker 301 there's a deal there being made bilaterally. But the trickier part, of course, is Ukraine.

Speaker 301 Now, on the Ukrainian side, the fact that they're meeting, and the reason why they're meeting is because Putin, when he met with Vitkov in Moscow a few days ago, offered to make some adjustment.

Speaker 301 It's a minor adjustment, but he showed an adjustment to the Russian position regarding a ceasefire.

Speaker 301 That is essentially that if Ukraine voluntarily withdraws from the Donetsk Oblast, which the Russians do not fully control, and if they handed that over, then the Russians would agree to a ceasefire along the remainder part of the front lines without demanding that they control the other oblasts.

Speaker 301 So, that is a change, a nuance to the Russian position, which is in part why Trump has invited him to come to Alaska to begin this process.

Speaker 301 But it is the beginning of the process, and that will allow for a further elaboration of the Russian position. The Americans are the broker here.

Speaker 301 They will listen to this, they will probe and see what, and then they will meet with Zelensky at some point in time. Trump will first.
And then

Speaker 301 Putin will only meet

Speaker 301 if they come to a framework agreement. That's a long way away, and it's not certain that there will be an agreement as opposed to an eventual armistice without an agreement.
That's the other option.

Speaker 102 Thank you very much, Andrew Rasoulis, for throwing in the A word there, because I think that's why you play decks.

Speaker 68 No, there's more.

Speaker 119 Self-serving.

Speaker 95 Oh, I'm sorry.

Speaker 35 I would never do something like that.

Speaker 127 So it's a linear process, and Zelensky comes in later.

Speaker 301 Zelensky, at some point, will have to come in if there is going to be an agreement. But it's a stepstone effect.
So it's not, it's sequential. It's not comprehensive all-at-one shot deal.

Speaker 301 Because if they actually met today or Friday, all of them, there'd be no deal. Because Zelensky's position, as we heard yesterday in London from the European Union and the Ukrainians,

Speaker 301 there's no movement there in that position at all from what there's been saying for months. And we know the Russians firmly reject that.

Speaker 301 So, there's no point, actually, at this point, to meet between Zelensky and Putin because it's going to be a zero progress.

Speaker 104 So,

Speaker 31 on the last show, they had code in there, by the way, which indicates they're going to kill Zelensky.

Speaker 47 Possible, because Zelensky is

Speaker 104 the problem.

Speaker 273 They said one shot.

Speaker 85 Yeah.

Speaker 8 Oh,

Speaker 251 that's good code.

Speaker 73 So, on the last show, we had two terms, which Mark Rutte.

Speaker 188 Mark Grutte brought it up so we will explore it here the terms are de jure and de facto

Speaker 140 and Rutte actually had it backwards but du jour when the term de jure French de jure means by law de jure de jure de jure of jurisdiction de facto means facts

Speaker 204 so you may legally

Speaker 168 have right to a part of a country that is de jure and you may have some part of a country that would be de facto just because you you happen to say it's ours.

Speaker 69 And this comes into play with the next clip here from Andrew.

Speaker 301 In my opinion, looking at the balance of forces, and I'm looking at the balance of forces here, a realistic assessment, Ukraine will in most likely have to make some adjustments from the position that we heard Saturday.

Speaker 301 That is an absolute position. That's a maximalist position.
They're going to have to move away from that, and they're going to have to give up some of that land.

Speaker 301 Now, the wording, the magic wording there there that we've all talked about is de uure de facto. The Russians could say it's by law theirs, de ure.
Ukrainians could say no, it's by fact.

Speaker 301 But in that case, they both live with it. Like the Turkish enclave in Cyprus from 1974, for example.
People forget about that. That's a de ure de facto relationship that's gone on since 1974.

Speaker 301 So those are options, but the Ukrainians are going to have to move. And if they don't move, the Russians will continue the war against them and the Ukrainians will have to defend.

Speaker 301 And then it's the question of balance of forces. And today, the balance of forces favors, to some degree, the Russians.
They have the momentum.

Speaker 94 They have the momentum.

Speaker 22 I love that guy.

Speaker 23 I love that he brings up Diure de facto and then brings in Cyprus and Turkey.

Speaker 54 Perfect example.

Speaker 112 So then the final point is what

Speaker 284 Zelensky has been yammering about.

Speaker 110 We need security guarantees.

Speaker 56 We need security guarantees.

Speaker 168 Now, you can get that from NATO

Speaker 53 by being in NATO.

Speaker 96 If you were in the European Union, which you're not, you might get that from the European Union armies, which I have a hard time believing any young people in their right minds in Europe are going to say, oh, yeah, I'll go fight for those guys.

Speaker 24 There was

Speaker 7 a research study done recently that indicates that half the German youth wouldn't fight for Germany.

Speaker 75 They're German Jugend?

Speaker 161 Yeah.

Speaker 44 What a switch.

Speaker 138 No, of course not.

Speaker 301 The Brits, the Brits are like, hey, oh, mate, i'm drinking my pint i'm not gonna go fight against russia it's they're so far removed from it and i think their chatbot said they didn't have to so there's only one option left well it is on the table from a ukrainian point of view it's not on the table from a russian point of view and again the battlefield continues to shape the negotiations so the russian position is again also well known they want a neutral ukraine not part of nato they do not want european security guarantees for Ukraine.

Speaker 301 They want a neutral Ukraine, and in terms of any kind of peacekeeping force, it would have to be based on neutral forces, like a UN blue helmet kind of force. That's the Russian position.

Speaker 301 And they will keep pushing that position as long as they have the momentum in terms of the balance of forces on the battlefield, which they have the momentum today.

Speaker 100 Blue helmets?

Speaker 235 Yeah, that means cholera.

Speaker 225 Cholera coming to Ukraine.

Speaker 60 Now, the UN forces, aren't they kind of just like NATO without guns and with blue helmets?

Speaker 137 Isn't that basic?

Speaker 249 No, I don't think they're like NATO at all.

Speaker 256 I think they're just a bunch of cholera-ridden jerk-offs that don't do anything.

Speaker 114 Yeah, it worked out so well in Europe before.

Speaker 91 It was great.

Speaker 263 Chechnya was great.

Speaker 33 Well,

Speaker 264 the blue helmets are notorious in Haiti.

Speaker 49 Haiti is the best.

Speaker 23 And then finally about the secondary sanctions, just a short clip.

Speaker 158 They're also rapists, by the way.

Speaker 53 Yes, this is well known.

Speaker 106 Well known.

Speaker 301 I would suggest that they have taken note. If they can avoid it, they will, but they will not move significantly strategically from their positions.
They are defiant in that regard.

Speaker 301 The Indians are also somewhat defiant. And the other unknown in all this is China.

Speaker 301 Because Trump has said, you know, those tariffs would also cut, the secondary sanctions would come into play against China for buying Russian oil. And they buy a lot more than India does.

Speaker 301 but I think they're mindful of that, trying to avoid that situation. But I don't think they're running scared.

Speaker 201 We shall see.

Speaker 108 We will know more tomorrow.

Speaker 67 Or not.

Speaker 83 Or not. Or not.

Speaker 217 But kind of like he said in his opening clip, they already have some kind of deal.

Speaker 22 There's already everyone's going to have a takeaway about something, and that may just be America and Russia.

Speaker 53 Like, hey, take our stable coin.

Speaker 22 Which, by the way, Europe is freaking out about the stable coins.

Speaker 47 Yeah.

Speaker 188 Because they were late with their CBDC.

Speaker 210 You know, the digital digital to the Euro is going to be just like cash, just like cash in your pockets. Yes, we can track you, but it's just like cash.

Speaker 67 It's cash.

Speaker 86 Well, also, the Swift bypass, I think, is the big thing.

Speaker 251 That's the big one.

Speaker 102 Yeah, and which Brussels controlled, basically.

Speaker 67 Did you hear about the new EU media freedom law?

Speaker 80 There's been a bunch of screwball laws that are starting to pass.

Speaker 31 There's something going on that starts in January 1st, 2026, about

Speaker 28 you can't be on the phone for more than 10 minutes in the UK before they start recording the call.

Speaker 255 Although they do that here anyway.

Speaker 243 Oh, that's interesting.

Speaker 92 There's a bunch of weird stuff going on.

Speaker 197 The EU is going.

Speaker 235 I mean, people moan and groan about fascism, but this is the real deal.

Speaker 87 So the European Union's European Media Freedom Act, the name already tells you we're in trouble.

Speaker 103 Yeah, it tells you what it is, which is not freedom.

Speaker 141 It became law across all member states on August 8th.

Speaker 23 Now, there's a copy out there.

Speaker 53 Alongside language about protecting reporters, the regulation also authorized arrests, sanctions, and surveillance of journalists whenever the authorities think or can say that it serves an overriding reason in the general interest,

Speaker 23 such as disinformation.

Speaker 136 So, what a great time to be a journalist in the EU.

Speaker 23 Disinformation, an overriding reason, they can arrest you as a journalist.

Speaker 75 How about that?

Speaker 67 How about that?

Speaker 150 You know, we let's see who gets arrested.

Speaker 235 Somebody will.

Speaker 71 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 49 It'll start with a podcaster.

Speaker 140 You know, it'll be innocuous.

Speaker 49 Like, oh, it's just podcasters they're arresting.

Speaker 61 And they'll rouse someone else.

Speaker 95 And by the way, podcasters are journalists in some

Speaker 33 way, I would say.

Speaker 255 No, not in some way, in every way.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 184 Let's see. Speaking of stable coins, Scott Besant, very disappointing statement this morning.

Speaker 296 Or not this morning.

Speaker 77 I think it was...

Speaker 134 It was this morning.

Speaker 108 With the money, honey, as she brought up stores of value.

Speaker 302 What's the story on gold?

Speaker 303 We've got the large gold holding. I doubt we're going to revalue it, but we are going to keep it there, again, as a store of value for the American people.
We've also started

Speaker 303 to get into the 21st century, a Bitcoin strategic reserve. We're not going to be buying that, but we are going to

Speaker 303 use confiscated assets and continue to build that up. We're going to stop selling that.

Speaker 303 I believe that Bitcoin reserve at today's prices is somewhere between $15 and $20 billion.

Speaker 215 Not going to be buying for it.

Speaker 54 Oh, no.

Speaker 85 No, they're going to be confiscating it.

Speaker 103 You heard him.

Speaker 73 No, but he said

Speaker 135 what I heard him say was, we have the confiscated Bitcoin, which I think today's prices are 20 billion, could be 15 billion.

Speaker 160 How much did you sell?

Speaker 68 15 billion, 20 billion. I don't know.

Speaker 95 It could be 200,000 Bitcoin.

Speaker 115 It could be 150,000.

Speaker 17 They don't even know how much they have.

Speaker 22 It's not a good message to the Bitcoin community.

Speaker 63 I don't know how much they have.

Speaker 191 You're right. That's very funny.

Speaker 30 I have the

Speaker 86 going back to the Trump Putin.

Speaker 7 I have the odds sheet.

Speaker 39 Funny.

Speaker 67 I got that too.

Speaker 60 They always email me that.

Speaker 118 Oh, you've been getting it.

Speaker 96 Yeah, yeah, but I usually delete it.

Speaker 184 So you have it?

Speaker 73 Tell us what it is because I deleted it this morning.

Speaker 13 I'm like, okay, well, here's some odds.

Speaker 138 These are all prop bets.

Speaker 41 Yes.

Speaker 92 Obviously, they're prop bets.

Speaker 98 Prop bets.

Speaker 195 And just a few of them that are headliners.

Speaker 147 Will Vladimir Putin be arrested

Speaker 28 on U.S. soil?

Speaker 59 What are the odds on that?

Speaker 262 50 to 1.

Speaker 59 That's higher than I thought it would be.

Speaker 134 Of course, he's not going to arrest him.

Speaker 255 No, that's lower than you thought it would be then.

Speaker 7 It should be 1,000 to 1.

Speaker 44 Yeah, okay, that's what I mean.

Speaker 88 Will the United States leave the UN in 2025?

Speaker 7 No. What do you think? No.

Speaker 192 33 to 1. Hmm.

Speaker 7 Okay, so here's the better ones.

Speaker 27 Trump to support the idea of Russia joining the G7, huh?

Speaker 243 Yeah.

Speaker 4 What's the odds on that?

Speaker 188 I would say very, very good odds.

Speaker 233 Even.

Speaker 71 Even.

Speaker 27 One to one.

Speaker 94 That means that that's about as good as it gets well i mean one to one so you can only win one dollar if i'm right and lose my dollar if i'm wrong isn't it

Speaker 71 yeah it's just one to one you you bet a dollar to win a dollar okay or you bet a dollar to lose a dollar that's one to one

Speaker 19 uh trump uh to mispronounce any ukrainian region

Speaker 67 well i think very very very good odds he's going to mispronounce a region what are the odds nine to four which is pretty close to even.

Speaker 126 Close to even.

Speaker 286 Putin to endorse Trump for the Nobel Peace Prize.

Speaker 81 Definitely.

Speaker 139 Definitely.

Speaker 67 He's going to do that.

Speaker 154 You can win money on that, but it's a five to two bet.

Speaker 38 So you can bet $2 to win five.

Speaker 94 No, I might go in on that one for $2.

Speaker 189 Can I do $2, literally $2?

Speaker 106 Yeah. Oh, cool.

Speaker 67 What's the VIG?

Speaker 145 What's the VIG?

Speaker 189 Do they take a VIG from me if I win?

Speaker 31 The betting house.

Speaker 29 You have to find the house to

Speaker 255 take in these bets.

Speaker 16 These guys will do it.

Speaker 42 Do it online.

Speaker 196 Bet AG online. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 112 I'm going to get right on.

Speaker 63 You can do it online.

Speaker 27 Just go online and make your bets.

Speaker 86 You can do it in Texas.

Speaker 70 I can't do it in California.

Speaker 92 It's still leaking.

Speaker 108 I spend my money on Bitcoin, not on bets.

Speaker 24 Trump to suggest that Russia joins the NATO.

Speaker 254 Joins the NATO.

Speaker 42 Or joins the NATO.

Speaker 100 Oh, that's.

Speaker 63 Wow. That's actually kind of interesting.

Speaker 202 That's an interesting idea, actually, now to think about it.

Speaker 56 Yeah,

Speaker 16 the betters think so, too.

Speaker 31 It's three to one, a three-to-one odds.

Speaker 42 So you win three bucks.

Speaker 86 But that's pretty low, it seems to me, because that's not going to happen.

Speaker 67 Although it's possible.

Speaker 46 Long term, long term.

Speaker 207 Hey, we'll give you some stable coin.

Speaker 193 We'll give you some.

Speaker 126 And then the

Speaker 64 switcheroo on that same prop bet would be Putin to suggest the U.S.

Speaker 28 leaves NATO.

Speaker 137 No, not going to happen.

Speaker 140 He's not stupid.

Speaker 86 No. That's a to one bet.

Speaker 42 And here's another, these are more like the typical prop bets, which I think can be taken advantage of by Trump's family because he can just tell them he's going to do it.

Speaker 31 Yeah.

Speaker 147 Trump to mispronounce any world leader.

Speaker 97 No, I think he's pretty good at that.

Speaker 294 I don't think he's going to mispronounce any world leader.

Speaker 63 He can do it seven to one.

Speaker 28 He knows a lot of money to be made.

Speaker 60 He knows people's names.

Speaker 189 He's pretty good at that.

Speaker 264 And I'm not going to go through all these, but I'm going to do a couple more.

Speaker 7 And this one is the dumbest one.

Speaker 60 What are the odds of a submarine sandwich being hurled at Trump?

Speaker 85 It's not on there. Oh,

Speaker 24 at first, I thought this was a dumb bet, but then I thought about it and I said, wait a minute.

Speaker 34 Well, she's there.

Speaker 31 She's in the state, so it's possible

Speaker 28 Sarah Palin to attend the summit.

Speaker 113 I would pay money just to see that.

Speaker 108 I don't care. Take my money.
Bring Sarah Palin in to say, I can see you from here.

Speaker 44 Oh, great.

Speaker 53 These are interesting bets. How come we don't? This is maybe an exit strategy.

Speaker 60 We could come up with these dumb bets.

Speaker 118 We're coming up with the bet is one thing, making money on it.

Speaker 17 Yeah, but I got a Bitcoin to back us.

Speaker 29 And now, I just, this is the last one I'm going to do.

Speaker 38 These are the words.

Speaker 31 There's a list of words.

Speaker 148 If Trump says them, you can win money.

Speaker 203 Okay.

Speaker 217 Just

Speaker 217 go through the list of the words.

Speaker 39 Read them off.

Speaker 3 They're all

Speaker 38 except for the word NATO, which is two to three, which means you bet three bucks to win two, which is nobody wants to do those bets.

Speaker 13 Fake news.

Speaker 2 Historic moment.

Speaker 12 No.

Speaker 64 Bad person.

Speaker 286 Nobel Peace Prize.

Speaker 15 No.

Speaker 38 Great guy.

Speaker 39 Yes, yes.

Speaker 138 Ten times yes.

Speaker 154 That's a five to one, but that's you could win five bucks.

Speaker 286 Terrific plan.

Speaker 8 No.

Speaker 13 Then Elon or Musk.

Speaker 8 No. No.

Speaker 33 Mueller?

Speaker 8 No.

Speaker 186 And Navalny?

Speaker 32 No. No.

Speaker 103 No, I agree with this.

Speaker 131 He's not going to mention Navalny.

Speaker 115 So, what is the sure bet?

Speaker 207 What are we going in on?

Speaker 142 What are we going to put our $1, $1,

Speaker 279 bill? What are we going to put our last dollar bill on?

Speaker 146 I think the term great guy would be the best bet because it's 5 to 1.

Speaker 22 Great guy.

Speaker 54 Five to one. He's a great guy.

Speaker 199 Scott Besson is a great guy.

Speaker 284 Oh, no. I mean, who's the guy?

Speaker 136 Who's the negotiator?

Speaker 54 Wickham, Wisham, Wickham.

Speaker 47 Witcoff. He's a great guy.

Speaker 102 He's a great guy. He's a great guy.

Speaker 258 Neils is a great guy.

Speaker 193 The guy who I say in the morning to, the man who put the C in the

Speaker 81 census recount.

Speaker 241 Please say hello to my friend on the other end, the one, the only, the great guy, Mr.

Speaker 105 John C

Speaker 105 DeMori.

Speaker 16 Yeah, well, you more youth, Craig memory, should have seen boosting the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the days and nights out there.

Speaker 32 There we go.

Speaker 5 We're counting the trolls in the morning for the trolls in the troll room.

Speaker 67 Well,

Speaker 280 I don't know, man.

Speaker 133 1571.

Speaker 96 So we're still low, but people don't know that the trolls.

Speaker 108 No, we're not.

Speaker 54 We're not?

Speaker 26 For Thursdays? I think that's about right.

Speaker 258 I thought it used to be 1,800.

Speaker 108 You're on the new numbers.

Speaker 53 Used to be 1,800, I think.

Speaker 71 It's higher than last Thursday.

Speaker 18 It's higher than last Thursday because, you know, people are succeeding getting back on.

Speaker 191 Okay, well, we'll just let it slide.

Speaker 93 We'll see what happens. I mean,

Speaker 188 we believe the problem has been fixed.

Speaker 189 Hetofel is Hamakt, as we say in the old country.

Speaker 67 So those trolls, the ones who are listening, are listening on modern podcast apps.

Speaker 136 They're at trollroom.io, the No AgendaStream, so many places to listen.

Speaker 193 But I do recommend one of those modern podcast apps because, you know, you can forget.

Speaker 83 You can forget.

Speaker 252 Like, you got a busy life.

Speaker 23 You're doing stuff.

Speaker 18 But when you have a modern podcast app, when we send out the bat signal, you learn.

Speaker 258 I mean, did I even send out the bat signal?

Speaker 166 No, you didn't.

Speaker 115 I don't think I sent out the bat signal.

Speaker 67 Holy crap. For a reason.

Speaker 204 Oh, no.

Speaker 94 Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 95 I never sent out the official bat signal.

Speaker 102 Wow, that was dumb.

Speaker 95 Okay, so we'll have to check on Sunday because people didn't get the bat signal.

Speaker 53 I was so obsessed.

Speaker 184 I was so obsessed with it being fixed that I forgot to hit the bat signal.

Speaker 102 Oh, brother. Sorry.

Speaker 255 I always thought you did these things like Pavlov's dog, and you wouldn't, you know, you just like.

Speaker 188 Yeah, well, but you know, even if you do something different with Pavlov's dog, then he responds differently.

Speaker 258 And so I forgot to do it.

Speaker 93 I don't know what happened.

Speaker 108 And no one reminded me.

Speaker 68 Thanks.

Speaker 168 Anyway, go to podcastapps.com, get yourself one of those beautiful modern podcast apps to use and to enjoy.

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Speaker 136 People who organize meetups, all kinds of things that people do.

Speaker 49 And that's why we are the best podcast in the universe, because we have thousands of producers, active producers.

Speaker 76 We have almost a million producers because we don't consider you to be listeners.

Speaker 205 We consider you to be active participants in the program.

Speaker 103 And they are.

Speaker 44 They most often are.

Speaker 140 The ones who, what was I reading on X today?

Speaker 49 You posted a TikTok clip.

Speaker 89 And let me see if I can find it.

Speaker 292 And there was some snarky comment that, you know, like, it got me mad.

Speaker 280 And I'm like, no.

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Speaker 251 I think that was the basic idea.

Speaker 31 I didn't repost anything like that.

Speaker 40 No, no, no.

Speaker 23 Someone responded to your comment.

Speaker 77 It's like, it's Adam's fault.

Speaker 108 This is not the summer dildrums.

Speaker 200 Curry's lost the plot.

Speaker 74 I think it's safe to say, if I really lost the plot, you would have spoken to me about it.

Speaker 62 Lost what plot?

Speaker 126 We don't have a plot.

Speaker 56 All we do is deconstruct what

Speaker 12 crappy news we can find to deconstruct.

Speaker 31 If there's nothing out there, what are we going to do?

Speaker 4 The plot.

Speaker 178 It's just the plot.

Speaker 139 The plot.

Speaker 67 So another way people can...

Speaker 7 That's because you're a Zionist shill.

Speaker 54 Oh, yeah, that's it.

Speaker 17 I chose my church over the people, man.

Speaker 22 That's what happened.

Speaker 67 We have artists.

Speaker 44 Well, we had artists.

Speaker 190 AI killed the artists.

Speaker 17 And now we have prompters.

Speaker 23 So prompters, prompt jockeys come in and they try to make something fun and interesting for us to choose for the artwork for each episode.

Speaker 81 Episode 1789, titled Glop after Mimi's signature recipe,

Speaker 112 I got an immediate, very positive response.

Speaker 23 This is from Digital 2112, man.

Speaker 22 This was the woodworking shop as we talked about, home ech and shop and woodworking.

Speaker 17 We forgot basket weaving.

Speaker 120 I think that was also something you could take at school.

Speaker 256 And

Speaker 60 it was nice. It was,

Speaker 112 you know, some woodworking tools on a tool bench and a big wooden sign in the background, made of wood, no agenda, currying the Vorak.

Speaker 132 It looks hyper-realistic.

Speaker 60 And I immediately got a note from Rob, the Constitutional Lawyer.

Speaker 252 He says, this is exactly what I was doing while listening to the show.

Speaker 139 This is amazing.

Speaker 92 He's a woodworker in his spare time, you see.

Speaker 33 Oh, that's interesting. A lot of people are.

Speaker 71 Yeah,

Speaker 202 he makes guitars, too.

Speaker 134 Makes a lot of good stuff. What?

Speaker 138 Oh, yeah. He builds his own guitars, electric guitars.

Speaker 59 Wow.

Speaker 138 And they're good.

Speaker 261 they're cool looking

Speaker 60 yeah yeah and yeah uh solid body solid body man solid yeah yeah he's got it's not quite i'd be more impressed if it was hollow body well watch out he may have one uh he has he's a very interesting that that takes i think that takes too much work thank you uh digital 2112 man let's take a look were there any other um pieces that we were looking at yeah i liked the cartoon piece just below it by digital the same guy with the sun tax guy you didn't like it you thought it was too cartoony even though it was a cartoon.

Speaker 262 And then I also liked the guy throwing the purse out the window.

Speaker 67 We discussed it.

Speaker 49 We discussed that as a possibility.

Speaker 205 The pilot tossing the purse out.

Speaker 255 That was kind of cute.

Speaker 86 I thought it was funny.

Speaker 291 It was a possibility.

Speaker 262 We ended up deciding on the woodworking one.

Speaker 80 It was more complex.

Speaker 7 It was a better piece.

Speaker 23 Yeah, and it wasn't orange.

Speaker 18 For some reason, the art generator is not really loading for me right now, but I'll just have to take your word for it.

Speaker 67 So thank you, artists, all of you, all of you prompt jockeys.

Speaker 69 We appreciate you. NoAgendaArtGenerator.com.

Speaker 189 Everybody can participate.

Speaker 112 And by everybody, I mean everybody, because, hey, it's just so easy.

Speaker 96 Just go to your AI.

Speaker 113 By the way, I tried to make an AI image yesterday.

Speaker 75 It's not that easy.

Speaker 107 Unless you just, I don't know what people are using, but ChatGPT 5 couldn't do anything.

Speaker 255 No, I would never use that. You have to use one of the art generators.

Speaker 22 An art generator. What do you recommend?

Speaker 197 What are you doing specific to doing art? Yeah.

Speaker 23 What do you recommend?

Speaker 33 Well, I like the Microsoft one.

Speaker 42 I think that does good work.

Speaker 138 What, Gemini?

Speaker 253 No, that's Google. That's not Gemini.

Speaker 161 It's called Microsoft Something Else.

Speaker 71 Copilot?

Speaker 33 No, no, it's a whole separate.

Speaker 147 Type in the Google search Microsoft AI art generator and you'll find it.

Speaker 147 Okay.

Speaker 202 Create.microsoft.com.

Speaker 251 That could be it, yeah.

Speaker 136 Free AI image generator.

Speaker 54 They're giving it away.

Speaker 59 It's so cheap to run.

Speaker 94 They're giving it away to the government.

Speaker 189 They're giving it away to us.

Speaker 67 I guess it's such a great product that no one wants to pay money for it.

Speaker 253 But that's one of them.

Speaker 42 But there's other ones, too.

Speaker 29 I don't know what the artists here are doing, what they're using, but I've used that for a lot of things.

Speaker 70 It works quite well.

Speaker 176 Well,

Speaker 120 we always look forward to seeing what you come up with so far, and nothing I've seen is really catching me for today's episode, but you know, the night is still young.

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Speaker 48 A lot of Texans supporting us these days.

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Speaker 173 No, that's not right. What about Bowman?

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Speaker 173 What are you talking about?

Speaker 65 He's at the top of the list.

Speaker 3 I don't, Sir Stephen's saying.

Speaker 67 Oh, I'm sorry.

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Speaker 221 I'm going to get the next two.

Speaker 70 Sir Stephen and Sister, Sister Dale, but you got some weird town names.

Speaker 30 You got Utopia, Sister Dale.

Speaker 219 Oh, most sisters.

Speaker 31 If it was Sister Nancy, but Sister Dale,

Speaker 270 Texas, 333.33.

Speaker 259 Again, no or native ad.

Speaker 88 That's

Speaker 121 Stephen from Sister Dale.

Speaker 31 By the way, it's K-A-5-W-J-Y-73. So

Speaker 27 Jim Coleman in Moscow, Idaho, 3333.

Speaker 88 And both, I'm going to, I think we should get a double-up karma for the two of them.

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Speaker 125 In this era of curated narratives and performative truth-telling, truth-telling, your tireless excavation of reality from beneath the

Speaker 53 sedimentary layers of what the M5M spoon feeds the public remains nothing short of a public service, nay, a humanitarian

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Speaker 78 this is not AI, by the way.

Speaker 234 This is actually quite good.

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Speaker 48 Answer the question, go.

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Speaker 35 Okay, this is under the.

Speaker 2 It's dog, ask Adam.

Speaker 40 Oh, I didn't even see it.

Speaker 54 Question.

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Speaker 90 I can tell you where all of my dogs' various nicknames come from.

Speaker 212 But the word dog itself, well, its origins are a bit more mysterious.

Speaker 90 As part of our Word of the Week series, here's NPR's Juliana Kim.

Speaker 299 For centuries, dog wasn't the go-to word for the four-legged creature.

Speaker 48 Answer the question, go.

Speaker 193 I'll answer the question as soon as I know what the question is.

Speaker 34 The question is: what were dogs called before they were called dogs?

Speaker 207 Well, I'm actually that's a recent

Speaker 19 calling them dogs is recent.

Speaker 33 It's not an old dude that hasn't been around forever.

Speaker 53 Okay, let me get this.

Speaker 188 So, what were dogs called before

Speaker 91 they were called dogs?

Speaker 54 Not looking anything up.

Speaker 32 Hmm.

Speaker 234 What were were dogs called before?

Speaker 67 Hound?

Speaker 67 Ah!

Speaker 11 Did I nail it?

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Speaker 272 You first time ever.

Speaker 299 Before the 16th century, hound or hundred in Old English.

Speaker 225 Hundred hundred, of course, hundred, swine hoons.

Speaker 299 It's the catch-all term to describe domesticated canines. That doesn't mean the word dog didn't exist at the time.
It appeared in land charters and place names, and then.

Speaker 214 The first time we have dog in a literary text, it's referring to people and calling them dogs to insult them that's colin gorey a linguist who's written about the origin of the word dog

Speaker 214 he says during the period of middle english roughly between 1100 and 1450 you start to see more um more instances of this dog word showing up and they're often derogatory but over time gore says the positive emotions people felt toward dogs eclipsed some of the words negative charge i think that it's very possible that the same word that you use as an insult, you can repurpose as a term of affection.

Speaker 299 It eventually replaced hound as the standard term we use for the pet today. The mystery lies in where the word dog actually came from.
That's the mystery.

Speaker 299 Gorey says one theory is that it comes from the Old English term dogs.

Speaker 214 It's not entirely clear what it meant, but it probably meant something like dark or golden or yellow.

Speaker 299 He adds that another possibility is that it's related to the Old English word duhan, D-U-G-A-N,

Speaker 214 which means to be good or to be to be good enough.

Speaker 299 Part of the difficulty in tracing the origin is that dogs have been part of human life for a very long time, according to Gorey. That's true for other common words.

Speaker 214 So, example,

Speaker 214 other than dog, would be boy, girl, she, the pronoun she.

Speaker 299 Gorey says the word we use today to describe dogs may evolve in the future as people continue to generate new pet names. He says it's a testament to how much we adore our four-legged friends.

Speaker 94 The more you know, in the morning.

Speaker 204 Oh, man, that's worth a donation right there.

Speaker 83 That's educational.

Speaker 128 It's totally educational.

Speaker 264 I do my part.

Speaker 17 But the hound part is only because in Dutch is hunt,

Speaker 108 in German, hundred,

Speaker 17 in French, shien,

Speaker 166 shen, foofy, foofy to poodle, shien,

Speaker 67 Shin. Shin.

Speaker 53 But

Speaker 71 wow.

Speaker 97 It's raining.

Speaker 49 I got blue skies out there.

Speaker 86 It was going to be raining there today.

Speaker 23 It seems like a lot of podcast land, you know, the podcast industrial complex, is obsessed with the feud.

Speaker 54 The feud.

Speaker 34 Feud? Yeah, the feud.

Speaker 104 You don't know about the feud?

Speaker 34 I don't know anything about the feud. The feud?

Speaker 284 Yes, between

Speaker 111 Nick Fuentes,

Speaker 61 Cameron, not Cameron.

Speaker 23 what's her name?

Speaker 67 Black Girl.

Speaker 33 Candice Candace Owens.

Speaker 156 Candace Owens, Tucker Carlson.

Speaker 53 Megan Kelly.

Speaker 294 Yeah, because

Speaker 112 Fuentes came on Candace's show, and then

Speaker 81 he was mad at how he treated her.

Speaker 68 And then she said, Who's mad?

Speaker 67 Fuentes. Tucker?

Speaker 93 Nick Fuentes.

Speaker 118 He was mad at

Speaker 284 Candace.

Speaker 17 And then Candace went on Tucker and said the guy's unhinged.

Speaker 67 And then Nick Fuentes.

Speaker 83 This is like bull crap.

Speaker 219 This sounds like a fake feud.

Speaker 59 Well, interestingly, Nick Fuentes,

Speaker 69 he's been going on rants, and I just can't not share this one because he shows that all of this:

Speaker 296 Tucker, Candace,

Speaker 284 Bannon,

Speaker 207 Elon, Trump, It's all because of the Jews, man.

Speaker 302 Peter Thial, the FBI informant and CIA contractor, Elon Musk, the defense contractor and PayPal Mafia member with Peter Thiel, close confidant of David Sachs, and J.D.

Speaker 302 Vance, who brokered the David Sachs fundraiser with Silicon Valley and Trump, mentored by Peter Thiel, mentored by David Frum, who worked for Bill Crystal with Tucker Carlson.

Speaker 302 Teal, Musk, and Tucker lobbied Trump to pick Vance, and they said, if you don't, the CIA will kill you. Who's the CIA? Who does the CIA, NSA, FBI, DHS, who do they all contract with? Palantir.

Speaker 302 Palantir, founded by Peter Thiel and Alex Karp and Joe Lonsdale, Israel first Jews that after October 7th flew their board to Israel and provided them with facial recognition technology to murder Palestinians.

Speaker 302 JD Vance, who, upon becoming the VP nominee in his first interview, said, We're going to bomb Iran, who went to the Quincy Institute and said, we need a pro-Israel spin on America first.

Speaker 302 Tucker, who interviewed Vance 46 times on his show, Vance hired his son.

Speaker 302 Vance's Rockbridge Network was the spawning point of 1789 Capital, founded by Rebecca Mercer and Claire Monster Chris Buskirk, which gave Tucker $15 million.

Speaker 302 Rebecca Mercer funded Steve Bannon at Breitbart that spawned Milo Yiannopoulos' career. And Rebecca Mercer hand-selected George Farmer, Candace Owens' husband, to run parlor in 2021.

Speaker 302 This is why they want me dead. Who's the Fed? Who's the Fed here? Because I brought all the receipts.

Speaker 54 Yeah.

Speaker 55 This is so entertaining.

Speaker 54 I like that.

Speaker 256 That was funny.

Speaker 33 Why don't you give yourself a borderline clip of the day for digging that up?

Speaker 59 Well, it wasn't hard.

Speaker 232 It's not easy to do this.

Speaker 232 I didn't know any of this.

Speaker 291 I don't follow this kind of crap.

Speaker 118 I follow NPR and then you moan about my clips.

Speaker 111 But this is entertaining.

Speaker 252 It's basically the Whitney Web story.

Speaker 63 It's more entertaining than NPR.

Speaker 116 I'm not going to argue the point.

Speaker 81 It's basically Whitney Webb in a minute and 50 seconds.

Speaker 18 You know, it's much better.

Speaker 286 It's a compressed Whitney Webb.

Speaker 269 It's Palantir.

Speaker 67 They're They're killing the Jews.

Speaker 67 I'm sorry.

Speaker 101 They're killing the Palestinians.

Speaker 35 Oh, man.

Speaker 259 Yeah, actually, they get the facial recognition of all these rando-Palestinians somehow.

Speaker 139 That's right. And then J.D.

Speaker 193 Vance and Peter Thiel and Elon Musk, the PayPal Pop, and PayPal Mafia, Ben, and everybody.

Speaker 225 It's all one big network.

Speaker 80 You know, that was a very good virtual red yarn

Speaker 173 drawing.

Speaker 94 You know, with the push pins in the corkboard.

Speaker 191 Yeah, yeah,

Speaker 7 what Beck used to do.

Speaker 23 Yeah, yeah, connect him with all the different pieces of yarn.

Speaker 67 It was good.

Speaker 60 I find Nick Fuentes at this point highly entertaining.

Speaker 249 Now, I don't, I know, follow me.

Speaker 235 What's this podcast called?

Speaker 22 I think it's just Nick Fuentes.

Speaker 49 I don't know if he has a podcast.

Speaker 150 He doesn't.

Speaker 221 He just floats around from podcast to podcast until you're causing trouble.

Speaker 189 He just does stuff on YouTube.

Speaker 40 He's a troublemaker. This is a great guy.

Speaker 98 Yes.

Speaker 40 Well, he had the Groipers, the Groipers.

Speaker 61 So they were like, America first, you know, Trump is controlled by Israel, Groipers.

Speaker 190 And then they all got kicked off of Twitter.

Speaker 168 And I know Elon Musk brought him back, but then kicked him off again.

Speaker 94 I do know that my neighbor, Laura Logan, she says

Speaker 178 that guy's CIA.

Speaker 72 She says that.

Speaker 119 But Fuentes? Yes.

Speaker 112 She says he's a troublemaker.

Speaker 103 He's a a troublemaker for sure.

Speaker 18 He's a plant. He's a plant.

Speaker 134 And it's interesting because now you're seeing different news, different podcasters, too, but different news outlets starting to push back on the Palestine narrative.

Speaker 206 And,

Speaker 22 you know, there's a lot of, there's many different

Speaker 108 Instagrammers doing reels.

Speaker 46 And maybe it's just because people are sending them to me that it seems like it's more. I don't know.

Speaker 190 But it certainly feels like that's happening more and more.

Speaker 215 And then

Speaker 108 Carl Higby from Newsmax.

Speaker 60 You don't go on Newsmax, do you?

Speaker 140 You go on One American Network now.

Speaker 103 No, O A N.

Speaker 12 One American News network.

Speaker 67 Who owns Newsmax?

Speaker 24 There's three of them.

Speaker 31 There's Newsmax.

Speaker 256 There's that one that you had earlier on the show.

Speaker 28 There's One American Network. And then there's the thing that

Speaker 253 Cuomo's on, that other network.

Speaker 70 It's about four of these fringe networks.

Speaker 53 Isn't Cuomo on Newsmax?

Speaker 42 No, no, no, he's on One American News.

Speaker 67 Oh, okay. Hmm.

Speaker 42 But I don't know. No, Newsmax, nobody...

Speaker 16 There is one or two ex-famous people from Fox or something that have floated over to Newsmax, but Newsmax is low pay and

Speaker 85 they've been around the longest. Funny thing.

Speaker 127 Grok is unable to generate a reply.

Speaker 54 This is horrible.

Speaker 40 Would you ask Grok?

Speaker 67 Who owns Newsmax?

Speaker 53 I mean, isn't that what we're supposed to do book of knowledge stuff?

Speaker 81 A Christopher Ruddy.

Speaker 54 Oh, okay.

Speaker 220 Yeah, Ruddy. Ruddy.

Speaker 113 But it's, oh, he got money from Sheikh Sultan bin Hasim Altani from Qatar.

Speaker 28 Yeah, it's Qatari money, right? It's the same.

Speaker 144 I think this is

Speaker 146 Amy Goodman's, I think, source is

Speaker 39 war and peace.

Speaker 53 So where are the Qataris in the Israel-Palestine?

Speaker 20 And where are they?

Speaker 81 On what side do they fall?

Speaker 290 Palestine.

Speaker 73 Huh. Interesting.

Speaker 138 Well, here's Carl Higbee going down to the Gaza Strip, giving us a history lesson.

Speaker 170 It says you can hear the explosions in the background of the airstrikes and artillery.

Speaker 170 We want to know how a six-mile-wide, 25-mile-long piece of prime real estate, ocean front on the Mediterranean Sea, fall into the hands of terrorists.

Speaker 158 Egypt actually used to control the Gaza Strip until 1967 when they attacked Israel.

Speaker 170 At that point, Israel took control of it and they actually let the Arab settlers stay there and started building infrastructure into the area.

Speaker 289 But Egypt didn't want anything to do with it even when it was a potential to have it back.

Speaker 170 But in the 80s, groups like the Palestinian Liberation Organization began to rise up.

Speaker 170 Then in 1993, the Oslo Accords granted limited self-governance for Palestinians while Israel retained control over the borders, control over the airspace, and security.

Speaker 170 Keep in mind, Israel constructed, maintained, and

Speaker 170 ran all the infrastructure in the Gaza Strip.

Speaker 170 The violence escalated though in 2005 when Israel actually withdrew their settlements in an attempt to try to make peace with the people in Gaza, or the self-proclaimed Palestinians.

Speaker 170 Shortly after that, elections were held in Gaza, and Hamas was overwhelmingly elected by the people of Gaza. They elected the people who are running that region right now.

Speaker 170 From that, and then until 2023, they continued sporadic attacks on Israel, but also it became more and more of a hotbed for Iranian-based terror.

Speaker 81 Sounds a bit like the way I remember it.

Speaker 94 How about you?

Speaker 150 Sounds right.

Speaker 34 I'm not hearing any huge errors.

Speaker 135 Egypt.

Speaker 96 People don't realize that this was Egyptian territory.

Speaker 44 And then, of course, October 7th, which I'm still skeptical if that was on purpose or not, but October 7th.

Speaker 170 Fast forward to October 7th, 2023.

Speaker 170 6,000 Hamas terrorists invaded southern Israel, murdered 1,200 Israelis, and took 250 hostages, six of them were American, along some of these highways that we're on right now.

Speaker 170 So, how did a bunch of nomad, outcast Arabs in 50 years end up self-governing, gaining an entire region?

Speaker 170 They built an entire army and attacked the very people that's providing them the land and utilities that they have? Well, it started because they played victim and they got funding.

Speaker 170 And as they morphed into the Palestinian Authority, Iran saw a likely ally.

Speaker 170 They poured weapons, they poured training and resources, and simultaneously, we, the U.S., our taxpayer money was being given to them in Gaza. And this goes back to Bill Clinton.

Speaker 170 They began to receive millions of our taxpayer dollars. And more recently, as you know about USAID, Trump defunded this agency since the October 7th attack.

Speaker 170 USAID, though, has given $2.1 billion to Gaza, where you can hear those explosions going off right behind me.

Speaker 170 One line item from USAID noted that $200 million were allocated to miscellaneous foreign awardees of the West Bank in Gaza. There was no transparency at all for any of these receipts.

Speaker 170 And that goes directly to Hamas.

Speaker 170 And the actual aid that's intended for the real victims, I guess, of the area, the people who don't have any means to flee, Hamas steals most of it once it gets to the intended recipients.

Speaker 170 They tell people not to take it in the streets at gunpoint. Don't tell me aid isn't going in.
I'm here right now watching Israeli trucks transfer it to Arab trucks and then drive it into Gaza.

Speaker 67 Yeah, narrative is shifting, these guys.

Speaker 48 Interesting that it's Qatari-based.

Speaker 89 I didn't expect that.

Speaker 116 Well, we'll see what happens long term.

Speaker 71 Yeah, well, long term.

Speaker 23 No one knows anything.

Speaker 95 We could be gone tomorrow.

Speaker 72 I don't think so.

Speaker 28 But we will be gone tomorrow.

Speaker 253 We'll be back on Sunday.

Speaker 160 Yes, we will.

Speaker 172 Have you ever heard of the lemon test?

Speaker 249 The lemon test? Yes.

Speaker 249 No.

Speaker 91 So I learned about this yesterday from my friend Rick.

Speaker 68 My friend Rick.

Speaker 54 My friend Rick.

Speaker 68 Rick Green.

Speaker 75 Rick Green. He runs

Speaker 113 the white Christian nationalist paramilitary organization, knows Patriot Academy.

Speaker 7 It's funny. Ask him if he was a bowler.

Speaker 215 Hmm.

Speaker 107 He was a former state representative.

Speaker 199 Did you ever bowl against a short, stocky guy named Rick Green?

Speaker 255 No, but it was a Green that I bowled against, but he was not short and stocky.

Speaker 251 Doesn't sound right. It doesn't sound right.

Speaker 18 So, you know, a big big controversy in Texas over the Ten Commandments in schools, and which, you know, I'm like, okay, whatever.

Speaker 46 And, you know,

Speaker 18 we'll have this argument, I guess, forever.

Speaker 22 But I just wanted to play the clip of the so-called news and then play something that I learned yesterday.

Speaker 174 Well, a group of North Texas parents are now suing the state and their student school districts after Governor Greg Abbott signed a bill that requires public schools to display the Ten Commandments in every single classroom.

Speaker 231 So parents say this new law violates constitutional rights. It also potentially crosses the line between church and state.

Speaker 231 So Lauren Crawford joins us live with more on this and what both sides are saying as this legal battle plays out.

Speaker 265 Hey, good morning.

Speaker 237 Well Senate Bill 10 requires all Texas public schools to post a 16 by 20 inch copy, a framed copy or poster of the Ten Commandments in every single classroom.

Speaker 237 Now this bill was just signed into law but is already facing legal pushback from North Texas. parents who say the bill goes too far.

Speaker 237 Now Governor Greg Abbott signed Senate Bill 10 into law on Saturday. It requires all public schools to post a state-approved version of the Ten Commandments in classrooms where it's clearly visible.

Speaker 237 Eight North Texas parents are now suing the state, claiming the law crosses the line between church and state. However, the state says it reflects the nation's religious heritage.

Speaker 237 The plaintiffs argue the law violates the First Amendment in the Texas Constitution by pressuring students into religious observance and sidelining parents' rights to teach faith at home.

Speaker 162 We are not filing this lawsuit because we are against faith. We are fouling because we are for freedom.

Speaker 237 Now, similar laws have been either struck down or failed in other states, but a couple other local districts named in a lawsuit, DeSoto ISD and Lancaster ISD, they say that they are monitoring the legal process.

Speaker 153 So of course this is something that we'll continue to stay on top of as it unfolds.

Speaker 59 Yeah, I just love when they say, oh, church and state, separation clause.

Speaker 184 So in 1971, this is what I learned, because I think that this will go to the Supreme Court and it will,

Speaker 23 any opposition will be struck down.

Speaker 50 And here's the reason why, because the Lemon test, which was established in 1971 in the U.S.

Speaker 22 Supreme Court, Lemon versus Kurtzman.

Speaker 219 Ah, so this got nothing to do with the Lemon law.

Speaker 115 No, it's very confusing.

Speaker 104 Like, Lemon law, Lemon test.

Speaker 17 The way, so they had a test in the Supreme Court if something violates the First Amendment.

Speaker 97 So

Speaker 81 if

Speaker 22 whatever the law is or whatever a government action, if it is either excessive entanglement, so the action must not foster excessive government entanglement with religion, or has a primary effect, the action's primary effect must neither advance nor inhibit religion, and this is the funniest one.

Speaker 108 If it had a secular purpose, The government action or law must have a clear non-religious purpose.

Speaker 44 Well, obviously, under the Lemon test, this would be struck down by the Supreme Court. But here's what I didn't know.

Speaker 32 Why?

Speaker 71 What? Why?

Speaker 29 Why would it be struck down?

Speaker 188 Because it violates the secular purpose of the lemon test.

Speaker 100 It's secular. No.

Speaker 67 What?

Speaker 284 Hanging the Ten Commandments in the classroom?

Speaker 143 Yeah.

Speaker 57 How do you see that as secular?

Speaker 15 It's just a list of rules that you should abide by.

Speaker 149 And it doesn't refer ⁇ is it referring to some biblical thing and saying you should read the Bible or anything?

Speaker 27 No, it's just a list of probably some pretty good ideas, 10 commandments or 10

Speaker 31 edicts that you should obey if you want to not get thrown in jail.

Speaker 284 Well, you might find it interesting.

Speaker 42 It seems pretty secular to me.

Speaker 188 You might find it interesting that the lemon test has been applied, and the Supreme Court since 1971 has struck that down every single time.

Speaker 13 I'd be on the opposition of that.

Speaker 186 I'd be on the minority report side of that.

Speaker 31 It doesn't make sense to me.

Speaker 7 I think it's very secular.

Speaker 176 Well,

Speaker 284 obviously, I'm not going to disagree with you, but the more interesting point is the lemon test has been discarded, and we didn't hear about it.

Speaker 17 And the lemon test has been replaced by the history and standards test,

Speaker 60 which is now also being applied to the Second Amendment.

Speaker 140 And I'm not sure if I'm pretty sure the Ten Commandments will go to the Supreme Court and they will say, no, no, we don't use the lemon test anymore.

Speaker 73 We use the history and standards test, which came into play thanks to Coach Kennedy.

Speaker 106 And Coach Kennedy was the high school football coach who would kneel on the 50-yard line after the game and pray.

Speaker 80 You remember that? Yeah, that guy.

Speaker 59 So listen to this.

Speaker 7 He's not the only guy who did that.

Speaker 60 No, this is a brief explanation that brought in the history and standard test and took out the lemon test from the Supreme Court's proceedings.

Speaker 226 So Coach Kennedy, a lot of people know, oh, he gets to go back and pray at the midfield of the football. What they don't remember remember is that in that case, they threw out the lemon test.

Speaker 226 And the lemon test is what had been used in 1980 in the Stone v. Graham case and in thousands of other cases since 1971 to prohibit public displays of religion.

Speaker 226 So, because of Coach Kennedy and the work of First Liberty, that lemon test was now thrown out, which gives us the ability to go back into these states and say, hey, that flawed decision from 1980, it's no good anymore.

Speaker 226 Let's put the Ten Commandments back up.

Speaker 228 And if that's not enough, our win in the Bladensburg case in 2019 specifically deals with things made out of granite on government property, right?

Speaker 143 That's exactly right.

Speaker 226 And that really set the foundation for the Kennedy case in 2022, and which now we have, well, the limit test is gone. So what do we have? We now have the history and tradition test.

Speaker 226 And that's what I, along with some others, when we testify, talk about there's really no document in American history save maybe the Constitution and Declaration of Independence that has the history or tradition that the Ten Commandments does.

Speaker 226 That's why we feel very confident that should it get into court, should it get into these

Speaker 226 constitutional scrutiny we're going to be able to overcome it history and tradition test that's what i meant i don't like it

Speaker 58 you bring back the lemon law i like that one better you don't like that i do i don't like that other thing the kennedy thing the fact that he won that it's it's a it's a form of intimidation i didn't think it was good but in the first place intimidation yeah if you're jewish and you didn't want to go out to the middle of the field and pray or if you're a catholic hold on hold on he didn't force anyone he went by himself No, he didn't force anybody, but you can believe he's a coach.

Speaker 64 He takes a look around.

Speaker 219 He says,

Speaker 219 who's with me? Who's against me?

Speaker 30 This is not good.

Speaker 107 Well, we disagree.

Speaker 23 I think it's great.

Speaker 22 I think it's really bad.

Speaker 207 Well, I'm pretty sure that you're going to, no matter what, it's going to be applied.

Speaker 258 They're going to apply it to the Second Amendment now.

Speaker 154 We don't understand that at all.

Speaker 53 We have a history and tradition of having guns.

Speaker 13 But the Second Amendment protects our gun rights.

Speaker 220 Why do you need a test of it?

Speaker 113 Well, why do we need to have any conversation about the First Amendment? It doesn't say you can't hang the Ten Commandments in school.

Speaker 252 I agree.

Speaker 194 That's what I said to begin with.

Speaker 282 I didn't think the First Commandments were even remotely religious.

Speaker 193 Because our Constitution has been distorted by nut jobs throughout history, throughout legal history.

Speaker 185 So they end up with this new test, the new rules and history test, or wherever the hell it is, so some guy can pray in the middle of the football field and see who's not there with him.

Speaker 196 Not good.

Speaker 115 Woo! Let's take a break and do some real news, everybody.

Speaker 201 I'm ready for it.

Speaker 201 And now, back to real news.

Speaker 223 Something has Justin Trudeau smiling, but is it a budding romance with a singing star? As so many are wondering.

Speaker 198 The new super couple is Katy Perry and former Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.

Speaker 223 TMZ broke the news. The two were seen dining out on Sunday night in Montreal.
Then on Tuesday night, Trudeau was front and center at Perry's concert.

Speaker 223 It caused an online furor of discussion and speculation.

Speaker 214 This was actually a really great brand and reputational move.

Speaker 223 His public relations agent says both Trudeau and Perry have seen some reputational damage in recent years.

Speaker 223 Trudeau, well, he's no longer prime minister after resigning amidst plunging support for the Liberal Party and Perry's album sales have gone down with each subsequent release.

Speaker 223 Her stint as a would-be astronaut with Jeff Bezos Blue Origins fizzled. Many called it tone-deaf.

Speaker 214 It makes her brand feel a bit more grounded.

Speaker 239 Brown.

Speaker 214 And for him, it, I feel, makes

Speaker 118 so she's going out with the

Speaker 16 kind of the ex-Premier or Prime Minister of Canada, Trudeau, who's obviously Fidel Castro's kid through an illicit relationship with his dad's

Speaker 256 mom.

Speaker 64 And this makes, and this guy who's up the creme de la creme of the crop of whatever kind of elitists there are in Canada, and this makes it grounded.

Speaker 132 What he got is, I think he got a shut-up present.

Speaker 188 Like, here, you can have a presidential model.

Speaker 190 She's obviously MK Ultra.

Speaker 12 Well, now that you hold on.

Speaker 188 Then you got to be that's got to be.

Speaker 31 A friend of mine was one of her friends a bit man think he was part of her management team at one time really I know the guy really well hmm and she admitted to him and he couldn't believe this but she admitted to him that she'll do anything to be as famous as she can and

Speaker 27 that was a clip that wasn't a friend of yours no no I'm telling you this is a friend of mine that told me this story

Speaker 219 he says he was he knows her very well and she was basically uh

Speaker 31 programmed to sell herself for it, you know, sell herself out.

Speaker 179 Yeah, she used to be a Christian.

Speaker 13 So MK Ultra, bringing MK Ultra into it, is quite, it doesn't,

Speaker 118 I would not, if somebody had put some,

Speaker 118 showed me some evidence of this right in front of me, I wouldn't even remotely be surprised.

Speaker 5 No,

Speaker 60 I mean, she even goes on stage now dressed as a robot.

Speaker 194 She has MK Ultra written all over her.

Speaker 134 She does. She does.

Speaker 52 So I think they needed to keep him quiet.

Speaker 234 It's like, here,

Speaker 205 take our presidential model.

Speaker 63 That's an interesting theory.

Speaker 272 That's the only thing that makes any sense.

Speaker 37 How'd they even meet?

Speaker 32 At lunch?

Speaker 68 On Tinder?

Speaker 100 At lunch. Tinder.

Speaker 250 Over at Starbucks.

Speaker 18 On it'sjustlunch.com.

Speaker 32 It's just lunch.

Speaker 76 That's a very popular one amongst the ladies.

Speaker 45 The single ladies.

Speaker 70 Looking for free food.

Speaker 81 No, a lot of the single ladies here, you know, they got money and their husband died or, yeah, usually died.

Speaker 69 You know, they go on, it's justlunch.com to find a man or millionaire men.

Speaker 292 There's all these kinds of outfits.

Speaker 193 And they usually wind up really happy.

Speaker 103 Good for them. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 204 I heard another good one.

Speaker 89 What was it?

Speaker 96 The latest.

Speaker 64 Does Fredericksburg gossip?

Speaker 160 Yes.

Speaker 150 We love it. It goes like this.

Speaker 23 Prepare to be blindsided by everything.

Speaker 140 One of my family members, high-ranking position in the military, just told me.

Speaker 98 There's your giveaway.

Speaker 94 Listen, we don't have much time.

Speaker 69 I can't give you details.

Speaker 66 Things are moving fast.

Speaker 132 The elites are getting into their bunkers.

Speaker 96 They're moving supplies.

Speaker 49 They got systems that they're checking haven't been touched in years.

Speaker 23 Something big is coming.

Speaker 81 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 23 And I've been told to make sure my own family is ready.

Speaker 112 So I can't explain anything else.

Speaker 78 Look, I'm just giving you advice.

Speaker 18 I don't know if it's days, weeks, or months, but it's going to put the entire upper chain on edge.

Speaker 47 You'll need food, water, cash.

Speaker 78 And by the time they sound the alarm, it's going to be too late.

Speaker 23 So make sure.

Speaker 7 I had a, I saw the clip of this.

Speaker 38 I didn't take it for the show. I should have.

Speaker 85 It was the same thing.

Speaker 249 And it's going to take place, by the way.

Speaker 88 Yeah. I got the date.

Speaker 49 East Coast.

Speaker 178 I heard East Coast starts East Coast.

Speaker 31 It's going to be August 31st.

Speaker 41 Oh, yes, August.

Speaker 259 So you got that part, which is going to be kind of step right on the September 15th blackout.

Speaker 176 Yes.

Speaker 220 So there's that. You have to worry about that.
Yeah.

Speaker 255 Which is going to be a dud.

Speaker 233 Yeah.

Speaker 63 Which brings us to some TikTok clips.

Speaker 22 Yeah, well, I've been waiting for you.

Speaker 31 Okay, I want to start with

Speaker 250 a third copy of the Canada Complainer.

Speaker 27 By the way,

Speaker 135 this will be the final clips before we go to our second thank you segment.

Speaker 38 Okay, I got three clips.

Speaker 1 They're good. It helps.

Speaker 118 But let's start with the Canada woman.

Speaker 34 She's in Canada, bitching pneumonia, because this is a big deal to the Canadians, and nobody's doing anything about it.

Speaker 82 That they can't go in the woods.

Speaker 177 They can't go in the woods.

Speaker 121 Here's a new reason, by the way.

Speaker 67 Oh, I think I know.

Speaker 216 I think I heard this.

Speaker 305 So let me get this straight. Three provinces in Canada have banned people from going into the forest because of fire danger.

Speaker 305 And if you don't comply, you could face up to $150,000 in fines and jail time.

Speaker 306 So effective today, new fines will range from $50,000 to $150,000. And imprisonment in default of payment will increase from three days to up to six months.

Speaker 305 A government that can bankrupt you and send you to jail for going into the forest? That doesn't sound like a government that is built to serve you.

Speaker 305 That sounds like a government that thinks they own you. So when a forest lockdown happens near you, ask yourself, is this for your safety and the climate?

Speaker 305 Or does it have something to do with lithium mining? You know, the mineral that is used in electric car batteries?

Speaker 305 That, when it catches fire, takes thousands and thousands and thousands of gallons of water to put out.

Speaker 305 And let's not forget governments granting corporations the right to mine on public and private lands for the greater good. And they can still mine during the fire restrictions.
But what do I know?

Speaker 305 I'm just a conspiracy theorist.

Speaker 67 Oh, I hadn't heard that one.

Speaker 109 We're back to the lithium mining.

Speaker 54 Oh, yeah, isn't that interesting?

Speaker 81 I thought that was a good clip.

Speaker 54 That's interesting.

Speaker 140 I mean, I'm sure that they need to do lithium mining because that's going to be their only gig by the time Trump's done with everything.

Speaker 216 But I didn't expect that.

Speaker 23 Interesting.

Speaker 132 It is kind of outrageous.

Speaker 191 It's totally outrageous.

Speaker 199 It's not fire danger.

Speaker 17 It's like, if there's a fire, we can't save you, so therefore you can't be in the woods.

Speaker 67 Like, oh, all right.

Speaker 16 Normally, you can't be saved half the time if you get lost in the woods anyway.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 67 It doesn't make sense.

Speaker 205 Although, there does seem to be an inordinate amount of rescues of people lost in woods, on trails, writing help on a rock.

Speaker 53 Have you noticed that? It's been happening.

Speaker 55 Yeah,

Speaker 67 I noticed a trend.

Speaker 53 It's a trend.

Speaker 13 It's a trend. You might be right.

Speaker 286 Okay, so I got two more.

Speaker 35 I want to play this.

Speaker 30 I think I played the Starbucks.

Speaker 113 Where's Amazing Polly, by the way?

Speaker 67 What happened to her?

Speaker 157 I'm going to look into it.

Speaker 189 I mean, she seems to be off the radar.

Speaker 19 I sent her a note some time back, and I haven't heard from her.

Speaker 93 Hey, baby, are you on it'sjustlunch.com?

Speaker 249 So

Speaker 235 this is the Starbucks girl, and

Speaker 28 she's complaining about losing her support drink.

Speaker 95 Her emotional support drink?

Speaker 179 Her emotional support drinking.

Speaker 39 Oh, goodness.

Speaker 257 I know it's really dumb, but I just went to two different Starbucks.

Speaker 308 Hi, welcome to Starbucks. Let me get started for you today.

Speaker 307 Hi there. Do you guys have the summer berry still?

Speaker 308 Please don't. I'm sorry, please.
I'm just desperate to find it. Yeah, everyone is supposed to technically be out of it by now.

Speaker 307 The worst day I really want my emotional support drink. I got laid off a month ago,

Speaker 307 but they gave me 30 days' notice so that I could keep working, which I really appreciated because I needed the income. But

Speaker 307 my last day is on Friday, and I'm having to go to work every day this week at a job that I'm already laid off from. I've worked at this place for five years.

Speaker 307 It's just a small thing, but I was just gonna comfort myself tonight. I don't drink.
I'm sober, so I don't, you know, I don't go to the bar when I don't feel good. I go to Starbucks,

Speaker 307 And it just feels like we should get some warning when something's going to be disappearing.

Speaker 307 Because some of us depend on it. And they were asking me, do you want anything else? They were like, we still have the popping bowl that we could put it

Speaker 307 in something else, but I don't want it in something else. I only want it in the lemon, in the summer berry.

Speaker 307 And so I just told them I didn't want anything and I drove away. And so now I don't have anything.

Speaker 307 I don't know what to do.

Speaker 307 You know, I'm right at Whole Foods, so maybe I'll go into Whole Foods and try to find something.

Speaker 70 Okay, well, I call bullshit on this one, but

Speaker 84 really?

Speaker 84 You're always so serious about these things.

Speaker 194 I think that, well, here's the reason.

Speaker 7 One thing, it was a two-camera shoot the way she did it.

Speaker 31 With the cut-in of the...

Speaker 114 She had a two-camera shoot?

Speaker 83 What? Wait.

Speaker 28 It was a two-camera shoot, basically.

Speaker 244 This is supposed to be.

Speaker 121 The emotional support drink is silly.

Speaker 154 And then she says, I got laid off, but I'm still working for a month.

Speaker 270 So she's working to her last day.

Speaker 28 And then

Speaker 187 none of it makes sense.

Speaker 113 Well, why do you even play this then if you don't think that?

Speaker 63 Because I enjoyed her trying to act.

Speaker 40 Now, this next girl, this is the last one.

Speaker 127 This is a girl.

Speaker 31 who is one of those, and I know people like this who do this sort of thing.

Speaker 219 She is,

Speaker 31 she's one of those, and and it's usually women who like doing this.

Speaker 88 Somebody that is making life miserable for one of these callers, you know, these solicitors that call you on the phone from India.

Speaker 208 Yeah.

Speaker 28 So she's, I'm going to tell you what it is.

Speaker 42 So, because even though you

Speaker 7 visually, you don't get any more than you would from what I'm going to say, which is she takes a call from some guy who wants to get her credit card number.

Speaker 219 And then she plays, she says, I'm in the car, I'm going to pull over.

Speaker 19 And then she plays a recording of a car crash, claims she's been in a car crash, and hilarity ensues.

Speaker 301 Can you please give me your credit card number so I can help you?

Speaker 305 Yeah, sure. Let me just pull over because I'm driving, all right?

Speaker 309 Yeah, sure,

Speaker 309 Can you hear me?

Speaker 302 I can hear you.

Speaker 307 I just had a car crash.

Speaker 303 It's going to be all right. Don't worry about it.

Speaker 303 Do you have your credit card difference?

Speaker 32 Well,

Speaker 302 I just had a car crash.

Speaker 302 I'm bleeding.

Speaker 303 I just need your credit card number.

Speaker 295 That's it.

Speaker 145 All right, there you go, everybody.

Speaker 283 That is the state of the world according to John C.

Speaker 101 Dvorak's very limited worldview.

Speaker 176 I'm going to show my support by donating to no agenda.

Speaker 162 Imagine all the people who could do that.

Speaker 67 Oh, yeah, that'd be fab.

Speaker 67 Yeah,

Speaker 67 on no agenda.

Speaker 47 Yes, indeed.

Speaker 49 Who said that?

Speaker 96 Pfeiffer.

Speaker 23 That clip was the sound of Fonzie jumping the shark, John.

Speaker 59 That's where you were.

Speaker 46 Oh, man.

Speaker 189 It's just, I mean, okay, after three hours.

Speaker 84 After three hours, it's okay.

Speaker 83 What's your credit card number?

Speaker 193 Tip of the day coming up into show mixes.

Speaker 67 We do have a lot of meetups actually taking place.

Speaker 17 That'll show you, you naysayers, the meetups are still going strong. And we have some title changes.

Speaker 201 But first, John's going to thank the rest of our financial donors, our supporters, who sent us back value $50 and above.

Speaker 147 Yeah, starting with, again, right at the top of the list, there's our buddy Dame Rita in Sparks, Nevada, $108.14.

Speaker 150 She

Speaker 264 comes in from, she uses Stripe.

Speaker 71 Yes.

Speaker 71 Dakota Cole in Sherwood, Oregon, $100.

Speaker 256 She has been begging for a, I don't know what Dakota is a man or a girl.

Speaker 19 Begging for a rainstick pointed at Portland.

Speaker 250 No. Nope.

Speaker 106 I can't tell you.

Speaker 86 Not touching the rainstick.

Speaker 93 Not touching the rainstick for a good while.

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Speaker 67 It's already raining here.

Speaker 94 I don't want to.

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Speaker 111 I love it when people say, hey, man, did someone touch the rainstick?

Speaker 67 No.

Speaker 67 We got done the other day.

Speaker 202 And we do not touch the rainstick.

Speaker 151 No, we don't touch the rainstick.

Speaker 31 Julie Williams doesn't either.

Speaker 42 She's in Huntington Beach, California.

Speaker 264 She came with 100.

Speaker 116 Stephen Ritchie in Pine Bluff, Arkansas, 93.64.

Speaker 195 And this is a congratulations on the wedding anniversary.

Speaker 235 Oh, nice. Belated.

Speaker 63 Stephen

Speaker 3 Variker.

Speaker 71 Variker.

Speaker 166 Vericker. Veriker.

Speaker 1 Vericker, Delray Beach, Florida, 9364.

Speaker 121 Needs a dedouching.

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Speaker 35 Sir Darius Unity, which sounds like a science fiction character.

Speaker 42 Rocky Mount, North Carolina, 89.42.

Speaker 221 I've got a whole bunch of notes in here for some reason.

Speaker 28 See if there's anything there we need.

Speaker 259 Victor Gregg in Corvallis, Oregon, 88.88.

Speaker 256 That's another anniversary donation.

Speaker 98 Belated, but still worthwhile.

Speaker 255 A Jared in Edwardsville, Illinois, 84.38.

Speaker 272 Kevin McLaughlin, there he is, 8008.

Speaker 29 He's the lover of America, Archduke Aluna, lover of America, and lover of melons.

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Speaker 91 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Paul,

Speaker 103 Castoral in Portland, Oregon.

Speaker 32 Or Castoro. 808.

Speaker 41 Castorelle.

Speaker 92 Okay, Castorelle.

Speaker 251 Yeah, that would be it.

Speaker 85 Sir Herb Lamb, there he is in Sugar Hill, Georgia.

Speaker 86 He always comes in with the 8008 once in a while.

Speaker 264 Always once in a while.

Speaker 304 Sir Becoming Heroic in Sherrville, Indiana, 6886.

Speaker 31 Even though John is confused by my bouncing BBB donation, B88B boob donation, bouncing boobs.

Speaker 144 Yes. Oh, that's what this is.

Speaker 39 Okay, it's a bouncy.

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Speaker 24 I saw the sad puppy.

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Speaker 27 Well, you did that.

Speaker 31 But okay, Cameron Linga, North Branch, Minnesota, 6789.

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Speaker 34 Baroness Carol Ann in Pueblo, Colorado, 68 for their 68th birthday.

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Speaker 128 Thanks.

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Speaker 271 Jeffrey Montagna in Phoenix, Arizona, 65.80.

Speaker 304 Norman Walls

Speaker 33 in Red Deer, Alberta, Canada, 63.25.

Speaker 63 And he says, down with hackers.

Speaker 27 Anonymous, 60.06.

Speaker 186 Aaron D.

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Speaker 103 Deutschland.

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Speaker 88 That's a Dutchman.

Speaker 108 No, it's German.

Speaker 65 Is it? You sure? Well, it says DE.

Speaker 7 Oh, DE.

Speaker 39 Deutschland.

Speaker 37 5832.

Speaker 42 It's a microchip donation in honor of the

Speaker 121 NE5532 audio op amp.

Speaker 161 Hmm.

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Speaker 264 I I could be wrong.

Speaker 37 Sir Jubjub.

Speaker 31 Sir Jubjub in Elkton, Florida, 5798.

Speaker 221 He's back to donating.

Speaker 31 Christopher Dector, 567578.

Speaker 27 Stephen Neumann of the microphones, St.

Speaker 271 Louis, Missouri, 55.

Speaker 31 Time to ditch mail chimp.

Speaker 33 Zachary.

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Speaker 102 Yeah, okay.

Speaker 31 Zachary Jude in Minneapolis, Minnesota, 55.

Speaker 290 Linda Terry for Rochester, Minnesota, New Hampshire, 55.

Speaker 250 Luke

Speaker 304 Munel in Los Angeles, 52.72.

Speaker 31 David Fugazotto, our buddy in Gladstone, Missouri, 52.72.

Speaker 243 Duke

Speaker 31 Pure Energy Wellness in Portland, Oregon, 52.72.

Speaker 304 Stephen Bowles in Fort Collins, Colorado, $52.72.

Speaker 220 These are all $50 donors with the donate with the added fees.

Speaker 221 Sir John in Heber Springs, Arkansas, $52.72.

Speaker 19 John Montauk in Fremont, California with a birthday, 52.72.

Speaker 27 And then Anonymous in Rome, Texas, 52.71.

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Speaker 32 Wow.

Speaker 100 I'm sorry.

Speaker 118 No, not you. I'm talking about him

Speaker 35 adding the fees.

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Speaker 88 And then getting it past the $49.90.

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Speaker 41 No, your secret is safe with us.

Speaker 87 Anonymous?

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Speaker 25 Beat that chimp.

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Speaker 15 Marius oov.

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Speaker 147 Nagol in Norway.

Speaker 144 50-50.

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Speaker 38 Matthew Dropko, $50.11.

Speaker 67 Oh, this is Vincent.

Speaker 93 This is a good one.

Speaker 204 Hold on a second.

Speaker 17 11 years sober donation.

Speaker 113 August 6, 2025 was 11 years.

Speaker 107 Thanks for No Agenda for being part of Keeping Me Sane and Sober every year of that.

Speaker 219 Congratulations, Matthew.

Speaker 232 Dropko's one of our regulars.

Speaker 37 He's always

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Speaker 7 And now the rest of these are $50 donors, a little more than last week.

Speaker 304 Say the least, Mike Moon in Athens, Georgia.

Speaker 27 Tim Delvecchio and Bland in Pennsylvania. Gary Mao in Woodland Hills, California.

Speaker 259 Patricia Dame.

Speaker 151 Patricia Worthington in Miami Beach, or Miami, Florida.

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Speaker 149 Brandon Savois in Port Orchard, Washington.

Speaker 198 Kevin Dills in Huntersville, North Carolina.

Speaker 232 Diane Schwannebeck in Johnsburg, Illinois, Carl Vogler in Dillon Beach,

Speaker 42 California, and last on the list is Harry Klan in Alido, Texas.

Speaker 7 We got a lot of Texans today, and I want to talk about the newsletter before we say thanks to everybody.

Speaker 33 Okay. So I go to MailChimp, and...

Speaker 110 Which has been our go-to tool for over a decade.

Speaker 275 Yeah, and it works.

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Speaker 7 It does a pretty decent job,

Speaker 255 even though it's dropping out recently.

Speaker 118 So I go there and you put in who you're going to send this to.

Speaker 195 You click the button, it sends immediately sends you an error message saying, you got your Google Translate.

Speaker 27 It's turned on. What?

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Speaker 71 It's in your Bravo.

Speaker 290 So I try again, try it again.

Speaker 19 I try to do test mailings and nothing.

Speaker 42 It keeps coming up with the Google Translate thing.

Speaker 253 And so I'm not even on Google.

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Speaker 28 so but in the meantime because they didn't call back right away

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Speaker 88 Meanwhile, so I get a bunch of notes from people, well, I didn't get the newsletter.

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Speaker 96 Again, thanks to the executive and associate executive producers for episode 1790.

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Speaker 6 We got three on the list today. Sir Recalcitrant Crazy Steve II wishes Sir Montauk a happy 45th birthday.

Speaker 165 He'll be celebrating tomorrow.

Speaker 6 Bill turns 40 on the 16th, and Baroness Carolyn of Seoul, Colorado turns 66 on August 23rd. So of course, we say happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe.

Speaker 6 And we see two of our producers move up the peerage ladder thanks to an additional aggregate $1,000 in support.

Speaker 136 It is so appreciated.

Speaker 113 Sir Fur now becomes Sir Fer Baron of Shasta County.

Speaker 17 And Sir Camera Chris, he sent us this note and he said, you know, I should have been upgraded to Baronet on Sunday's show.

Speaker 113 You guys got my birthday. And yes, John, I'm sorry to make it complicated.

Speaker 11 I just know sometimes like to know about the numerology.

Speaker 279 You guys nailed the birthday, but I should have been upgraded.

Speaker 22 He said, by the way, this is not an angry voice, but I can't help myself.

Speaker 200 And so, but, you know, it is a self-serve system, so you have to let us know if you've been upgraded.

Speaker 17 We don't track that.

Speaker 258 We can't even track MailChimp, for Christ's sake.

Speaker 254 So, no.

Speaker 200 Please,

Speaker 102 sorry about that.

Speaker 108 Please let us know.

Speaker 123 And just because we did not,

Speaker 96 even if we forgot to upgrade you, there's no such thing as a black baronet.

Speaker 22 You can be a black knight, and that's when we really screw it up, and it's always very obvious that when that happens.

Speaker 201 So, congratulations, Sir Camera Chris.

Speaker 17 You became, well, you become Sir Camera Chris Baronet Baylor.

Speaker 102 And that's about all I got for you.

Speaker 233 But we appreciate it, ma'am.

Speaker 73 Wear that new title with pride.

Speaker 281 No knights, no dames, but we do have a couple of meetups.

Speaker 81 In fact, quite a few meetups to discuss.

Speaker 87 Clearly, John has a new noisemaker. I don't know who gave it to you.

Speaker 42 Mimi gave it to me for the anniversary.

Speaker 134 Ah.

Speaker 272 It's only train noises.

Speaker 93 That's a good wife right there.

Speaker 91 Trad wife.

Speaker 93 Train wife.

Speaker 188 No agenda meetups is where you can find the first responders in an emergency in your area.

Speaker 22 Connection is protection, and you find that at a No Agenda Meetup.

Speaker 87 These are producer-organized. They're completely free.

Speaker 82 You all get together, you yak, you talk, you have a good time, and you meet some friends, you make new friends.

Speaker 94 I mean, why spend money on a dating app when you go to a no-agenda meetup?

Speaker 188 And we have a few taking place.

Speaker 138 In fact, one today,

Speaker 112 the Northern Wake Broiling August meetup, 6 o'clock at Hoppy Endings in Raleigh, North Carolina.

Speaker 66 I don't think they ever send us a meetup report, yet they have a lot of them, so please do so.

Speaker 94 On Saturday, the No Agenda Mid-Cities meetup at 11:30 in the morning, but hey, it's at Bourbon Street Bar and Grill in Bedford, Texas.

Speaker 188 So

Speaker 98 get ready for it.

Speaker 81 And then we have the fifth annual Central Texas Float Meet.

Speaker 17 I should actually think I have their promo. I have their promo here.

Speaker 93 Yes, let's play the promo.

Speaker 32 Well, take me down to the river where I can hold your body close to us.

Speaker 96 This is Baron Scott and Sir Duceberg.

Speaker 310 It's time again for the fifth annual Central Texas Float Meet set for Saturday, August 16th.

Speaker 311 Now, we're going to start this thing at the 72-degree spring-fed San Marcus River.

Speaker 310 Then we will move the party over to Ivers River Pub overlooking the river in the heart of San Marcus.

Speaker 209 Marcos.

Speaker 311 Go to No Agenda Meetups for details and to RSVP for both the morning 3R float and the afternoon meetup.

Speaker 125 Remember,

Speaker 217 protection is protection.

Speaker 32 On the river,

Speaker 32 take me down to the river.

Speaker 17 There you go. So it's really two meetups.

Speaker 49 You start in the morning at 10.30 at the Texas State Tubes in San Marcos and you float all the way down to Ivar's River Pub.

Speaker 23 And then they have a meetup there at 3 o'clock.

Speaker 105 It's always good.

Speaker 73 So Deucer is going to be there and Baron Scott of the Armory.

Speaker 241 Also on Saturday, the Fort Wayne 33 Dad Gum Sealed Indictments, August 1st, August meetup, 1 p.m.

Speaker 112 at Hall's Tavern in Coventry.

Speaker 73 That's Fort Wayne, Indiana.

Speaker 87 And on Saturday as well, week 33, Orizund meetup.

Speaker 112 That's the one in

Speaker 87 Copenhagen at Michela Baghaven Refshall.

Speaker 133 And

Speaker 112 that's our buddy, Paul Piedermont.

Speaker 136 He's a Dutch guy who lives in

Speaker 96 Copenhagen.

Speaker 22 I'm looking forward to that meetup report, gentlemen.

Speaker 129 And finally, on the 17th, Sunday, that's our next show day.

Speaker 69 Wow, there's a lot coming up in just a few days.

Speaker 23 The local 360 meetup at 11 o'clock in the morning in Blaine, Washington, at 277 G Street.

Speaker 91 Be there or be square.

Speaker 241 Thank you for organizing these.

Speaker 64 If you feel like it, do a report.

Speaker 91 We love hearing it.

Speaker 175 Include your server.

Speaker 87 And for all the information about No Agenda Meetups, where to find one, where to go, what to do, go to noagendametups.com.

Speaker 260 If you can't find one there,

Speaker 115 start one yourself.

Speaker 11 It's always easy in a party. Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days.

Speaker 11 It's like a party.

Speaker 135 It's always like a grand party.

Speaker 60 I have some, I think I actually might have some contenders for ISO, end of show ISO for today's show.

Speaker 85 No, good, because I only have one lousy one.

Speaker 46 Only one, and it's lousy?

Speaker 216 Why did you even bring it to the show?

Speaker 166 But it could be good. It might be good.

Speaker 107 All right, so we play yours first.

Speaker 59 Yeah, sure.

Speaker 234 Or insert code happy before checkout.

Speaker 204 Oh, no. AI slop.
No, no.

Speaker 54 That wasn't AI at all.

Speaker 124 Oh, you're telling me that wasn't AI?

Speaker 49 Then you just got duped.

Speaker 83 That's AI.

Speaker 234 Or insert code happy before checkout.

Speaker 64 Insert code. No, that was not AI.

Speaker 262 Because the guy's voice, he does a show on NPR.

Speaker 114 Insert.

Speaker 234 Insert code happy before a checkout.

Speaker 40 Oh, good. He's got that slightly gay voice that NPR guys have.

Speaker 59 Yeah, slightly.

Speaker 204 Here's mine.

Speaker 122 Cut one.

Speaker 81 Cut one.

Speaker 227 Well, hey, it's not a podcast.

Speaker 67 It's a platform.

Speaker 54 Okay.

Speaker 42 I like it. It's too long.

Speaker 203 Yeah, it's a little too long.

Speaker 174 It was a lot of fun.

Speaker 67 Oh, brother.

Speaker 106 Here we go. They talk more than I do.

Speaker 67 This is our new one.

Speaker 75 I couldn't hear it.

Speaker 73 Well, maybe you can hear her in this one.

Speaker 99 Ooh, he's a podcaster.

Speaker 81 You couldn't hear it, huh? They didn't?

Speaker 81 They talk more than I do.

Speaker 151 I think that one will have to do, but if you can amp it up a bit, it wouldn't hurt.

Speaker 173 Oh, it's already quite amped.

Speaker 53 You didn't like this one?

Speaker 227 Well, hey, it's not a podcast.

Speaker 67 It's a platform.

Speaker 172 Okay, let's use that.

Speaker 132 I thought that was kind of good. I like that one.

Speaker 6 Hey, everybody, it's that highlight of your show.

Speaker 132 It is time for John's tip of the day.

Speaker 10 Great advice for you and me.

Speaker 32 Just the chip with JCD

Speaker 32 and sometimes Adam.

Speaker 198 Well, I've got a product that was brought to my attention by somebody in a chat room.

Speaker 81 No, chat room or troll room?

Speaker 86 Well, I don't know what to call them.

Speaker 38 But it was some, I forgot,

Speaker 262 or it was Usenet.

Speaker 177 There you go.

Speaker 12 UseNet.

Speaker 24 And they claimed it was, they claimed it was,

Speaker 219 you could use this stuff.

Speaker 195 And

Speaker 88 we did some research.

Speaker 290 Mimi and I both did some research on this in various Reddit forums and elsewhere.

Speaker 7 And it turned out that this is what I'm about to tell you is bull crap.

Speaker 173 Oh, okay.

Speaker 30 But the product is still a good product.

Speaker 304 The product is Rust Oleum

Speaker 275 214944.

Speaker 28 It's a number. You have to know that number.

Speaker 83 Specialty reflective spray.

Speaker 36 Semi-transparent

Speaker 232 clear.

Speaker 45 Let me guess.

Speaker 23 You spray this on your license plate and the camera can't see it.

Speaker 148 At night.

Speaker 18 God, I knew it.

Speaker 31 When it hits the flash, when it flashes, it'll black out the camera. Because it reflects so much.

Speaker 176 Well,

Speaker 31 many plates in some states are already reflective, and so that's bullcrap.

Speaker 24 And it turns out it's

Speaker 184 a bull crap thesis.

Speaker 67 It doesn't work.

Speaker 210 And it definitely doesn't work during during the day what kind of tip is this what's the tip

Speaker 31 it's a great product you can spray it on anything that needs like if you have a bike if you're a bicyclist you spray it on the back of the bike it's clear it's transparent so you just it's like a clear coat and you spray it on anything you want and it reflects like a it just amazing it lights up the the street

Speaker 28 it's so reflective it's a terrific product for it put you paint your mailbox or something if you're in some road where you know people can you can you do it it on your own?

Speaker 259 You could spray paint your dog.

Speaker 3 You could.

Speaker 38 I don't think you get the dog, I'd appreciate it, but you could spray paint the collar.

Speaker 262 You could spray paint the back if you're a jogger.

Speaker 33 There's a lot of possible uses for this Rustoleum

Speaker 1 214944 specialty reflective spray, semi-transparent, clear finish.

Speaker 113 I'm going to get some for Tina.

Speaker 27 Thank you for dynamite product.

Speaker 60 Because she does a walk every morning.

Speaker 44 She gets up, and before anything, she goes out for a walk with her weighted vest and she goes out for half an hour.

Speaker 113 And I said this morning, I said, you know, pretty soon it's going to be dark.

Speaker 20 And I don't want you walking out there alone on the street, you know, in the dark.

Speaker 18 Not for, I mean, she's packing, so you don't want to mess with her, but, you know, cars.

Speaker 145 And so this would be a great, a great thing.

Speaker 60 So I can spray paint my wife and she'll be safe.

Speaker 42 Well, you can spray paint the back of the pack she's wearing or whatever.

Speaker 232 You can spray paint different things with it.

Speaker 270 But you have to follow instructions.

Speaker 195 And the key to success, by the way, you have to be careful with all these kinds of

Speaker 83 Oh, yes.

Speaker 279 Key to success.

Speaker 1 You got to shake the crap out of it.

Speaker 73 You have to shake, shake, shake, because there's a bunch of little glass beads that have to be dispersed within the paint structure.

Speaker 31 So you got to shake it a lot before you use it.

Speaker 98 Shake before use, everybody.

Speaker 6 Find all of them at tipoftheday.net.

Speaker 132 John's tip of the day.

Speaker 5 Great masks for you and me.

Speaker 10 Just the tip with JCD.

Speaker 243 And sometimes Adam.

Speaker 311 Created by Dana Bernetti.

Speaker 190 Well, everybody, if that doesn't get your week started off just dandy, I don't know what does.

Speaker 6 That's the end of the week.

Speaker 188 Well, it's starting for people.

Speaker 98 You know, now we're ready to go.

Speaker 87 We're getting ready for tomorrow, man.

Speaker 59 It's what you do.

Speaker 82 Meanwhile, if you're listening there in the troll room on your modern podcast labs, you can just keep on listening.

Speaker 137 DH Unplugged is coming up next. I have not heard this one.

Speaker 87 Because I think I turn it off when you start moaning about, oh, Bitcoin is supposed to be a hedge.

Speaker 22 How does that work?

Speaker 168 I'm like, okay, all right, boomer, I'm turning it off.

Speaker 67 Well, I'm still wondering.

Speaker 80 You're wondering.

Speaker 49 Yes, you're wondering, that's for sure.

Speaker 123 So that's coming up next on No Agenda Stream.

Speaker 87 We have end of show mixes from Sound Guy Steve and Sir Ned Wood.

Speaker 81 All about the Putin meeting.

Speaker 17 And as always, we will return on our next show day, which will be Thursday.

Speaker 66 We look forward to seeing you then

Speaker 188 coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country right here in Fredericksburg, Texas.

Speaker 70 It's so picturesque.

Speaker 87 In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.

Speaker 232 From Northern Silicon Valley, where I remain and the weather remains crappy, I'm John C.

Speaker 264 Dvorak.

Speaker 6 Remember us again at Noagendadonations.com, and we'll see y'all here on Thursday. Until then, adios mofos, a hooey hooey, and such

Speaker 9 tonight, Vladimir Putin, Vladimir Putin, Vladimir Putin, Vladimir Putin.

Speaker 247 Who is not a Putin, Putin, Putin, Russians,

Speaker 9 Russia, Vladimir Putin,

Speaker 9 Vladimir Putin

Speaker 240 Zelensky the Ukrainians

Speaker 39 President Biden Vladimir Putin Russia Ukraine Putin Putin what was Ukraine who was Ukraine where was Ukraine President Putin President Zelensky Joe Biden Vladimir Putin Vladimir Putin

Speaker 231 Vladimir Putin Russia Vladimir Putin the Ukraine Vladimir Putin bombing Ukraine Russian president Vladimir Putin Russia Ukraine Putin said Ukraine says when it comes to Ukraine, Putin invading Ukraine.

Speaker 247 What Putin wants is helping Ukrainians defend their democracy. Ukraine, brutal invasion of Ukraine.
President Vladimir Putin, the Russian offensive against Ukraine continues

Speaker 222 to President Zelensky of Ukraine.

Speaker 5 Ukraine. Ukraine.

Speaker 183 I really hope that you and President Putin get together and can solve your problem. That would be a tremendous achievement.
And I know you're trying to do that. Did you underestimate Vladimir Putin?

Speaker 143 Putin's intention to push on with his brutal assault on Ukraine.

Speaker 54 And Russia.

Speaker 105 Russian missiles continued to rain down on the port city of Odessa.

Speaker 165 More scenes of carnage in Ukraine.

Speaker 298 Ukraine is a centrally located, strategic country in Europe.

Speaker 246 Donald Trump repeatedly asked his Ukrainian counterpart, Vladimir Zelensky, to investigate the former vice president,

Speaker 152 Russia's president, Vladimir Putin.

Speaker 9 Do we need to be prepared for the continued destruction of Ukrainian cities?

Speaker 152 Putin is the great disruptor.

Speaker 303 Putin's military is falling apart.

Speaker 238 There's a price to pay for peace and democracy.

Speaker 247 Please, again, my request: don't trust Putin.

Speaker 247 Welcome to the

Speaker 247 U.

Speaker 247 There's no turning back.

Speaker 247 Give us all your gas.

Speaker 247 We will save you from that evil. Bruce K.
Putin.

Speaker 247 Let me

Speaker 247 put Newton.

Speaker 247 Everybody

Speaker 247 wants to rule you, Crane. There's a big that will fly into you.

Speaker 247 Just look at when the bombs come tumbling down.

Speaker 247 And you die, we'll be right behind you.

Speaker 247 So sad you almost made it.

Speaker 247 Too bad we had to fake it.

Speaker 247 Everybody

Speaker 247 wants to

Speaker 247 crave.

Speaker 247 The best podcast in the universe.

Speaker 247 Mofo. Dvorak.org slash na boy, it's not a podcast, it's a platform.

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