1790 - "Florida Ounce"

I went to jail for the Republic.

Adam Curry, John C.

Dvorak.

It's Thursday, August 14th, 2025.

This is your award-winning Gibbon Nation Media Assassination episode 1790.

This is no agenda.

Covering IPV4 and 6, and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA region number 6.

In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.

And from Northern Silicon Valley, where we tell everybody not to throw sandwiches at cops.

I'm John C.

Dvorak.

It's Craig Bottom Buzzkill in the morning.

Oh, is that the latest in California?

No, no, this is what happened in D.C.

You didn't watch this morning's news.

No, I'm so bored by it.

I've got Trump on the quad screen right now.

So there's a guy in a pink shirt and shorts standing in front of one of the cops and yelling, calling him a fascist and going on and on.

And then he throws a giant subway sandwich at the cop.

He's right in front of him.

He's a foot away.

And the cops chase him down, arrest him for a felony assault on a police officer.

The guy

was an employee of the Department of Justice.

That's great.

That's what made this story great.

We're lost, man.

Immediately fired by Bondi.

Oh, no, of course.

Scam Bondi.

She won't stand for that.

What was this guy thinking?

What a numb nut.

Well, we probably should just talk with that, just talk about that just for a second since you brought it up.

Let me see here.

It's noteworthy, Errol.

There's been no legal challenge filed by the leaders of the District of Columbia.

Yeah, isn't that interesting that everyone's like, oh, he's federalizing D.C.

as a takeover, takeover of D.C.

I went to

my hair hair girl in Austin on Wednesday.

Oh, you went and you took

the trek to Austin.

I made the trek.

It's very dangerous.

You're going to be going to Sacramento.

Long haul.

Yeah, the distance, but the minute you kind of, once you pass Dripping Springs and you come into

this big smoke of Austin, it just feels dark.

Really?

Yeah, it does.

Well, you know.

It's going to be a lively little city.

Oh,

it's big.

It's busy.

There's lots of traffic.

And everyone's insane.

Everyone's nuts.

So I'm talking to my girl.

She's like, even she was somewhat infected.

And she's pretty straight down the middle.

She's like, oh, you know.

She's affected by what?

By the, oh, Trump, the takeover, Trump takeover of DC.

Takeover.

The U.S.

government owns D.C.

Well, this is what people don't know.

I mean, listen, when they

don't know anything, they're not taught anything in school.

No, no,

when you don't even know what that LBS is an abbreviation for pounds or that a nickel is five.

Oh, wait a minute.

I had another one here.

What did I have?

I had another one someone sent me.

LBS.

This one.

Oh, my wife works with

a vet

need fee.

I'm not sure what this is.

Her co-worker one day was asking her what a Florida ounce was.

My wife asked her to repeat it again.

She said she looked over at the piece of paper and says, Florida.

What is it Florida ounce?

because it said FL ounces.

And this poor person

didn't understand it when it stood for fluid ounces.

No, it's Florida ounces.

I mean, we're pretty lost when this stuff happens.

Wow, that's a good one.

That's a topper.

We are lost.

So, yeah, people don't know.

And by the way, all those conspiracies about, oh, it's now the USA is now,

we're a corporation.

All the letters are there.

Oh, here we go.

It all has to do with Washington, D.C.

And so, of course, amongst all the noise and all the blathering and all the

habeas corpus,

and this is from CBS, indeed, what you do not hear is an actual legal challenge against the president doing this because it's well within his rights and everybody knows it, except people who measure things in Florida ounces.

It's noteworthy, Errol, there's been no legal challenge filed by the leaders of the District of Columbia, an indication they think the president is well within his authority to unilaterally call up the D.C.

National Guard, deploy them on the streets in a supportive law enforcement mission, and to federalize the nearly 4,000-person Metropolitan Police Department in Washington, D.C.

Because this is the District of Columbia, not a city, not a state.

The President has unique powers here.

The broader question, though, is what impact is this going to have?

We know what it looks like so far.

You see federal agents, you know, FBI agents, alcohol, tobacco, and firearm agents on the street, almost side by side or block by block with D.C.

police officers monitoring for street crime.

The National Guard still has yet to deploy into the district itself, still readying themselves, readying their equipment.

We'll expect to see them by weeks in.

But it's hard to get a gauge arrow on what's going to be a determinative success here.

What means this worked?

Is it a 30-day crime reduction in the data?

Is it a no

friction between the new law enforcement on the ground and the residents of Washington, D.C.?

And can things change in such a short window of time, over 30 days?

And the mayor is arguing what you see on the screen, the crime is already down significantly from last year, plummeting by more than 25%.

That includes robberies, that includes homicides, and she says that's from partnering with the federal government and empowering the local police.

So I have a question for you about D.C.

I was born in Washington, D.C.

My birth certificate, my passport.

Oh, really?

You never mentioned that on the show, and I never knew that.

Yeah, why?

You were born in Virginia.

Arlington Hospital, which is technically in Washington, D.C.

So it says Washington, D.C.

on your birth certificate.

On my certificate?

Yeah, my birth certificate and my passport.

Well, that explains a lot.

So what am I?

Am I even a human?

Do I exist?

No, you're a subhuman.

We've all known this.

Do I belong to President Trump?

Am I a member of Trump land?

He owns you.

You're his slave.

So, just like the Congresswoman Holmes, I exist, but I have Norton.

Norton, that's something.

Why do I say Holmes?

Norton.

No,

Elizabeth.

What is it?

Ellen.

What is her name?

Eleanor Norton.

Is that her name?

Eleanor Holmes Norton or something like that.

I met her.

Do you remember?

I met her.

She's.

Oh, here we go.

Yeah.

I want to hear this.

I want to say it was 2010 or 2012.

And

I was.

You met up with her.

She's from, she represents Washington, and you're born there.

Now it's suspicious.

It was actually Wendell Potter had invited me to see the...

Wendell Potter.

There's a name for it.

The plot thickens.

Yes.

And he had invited.

I met him through the big book show.

Now we're going back.

No, he's not going to be a big boy.

The big book show.

Yeah.

The big book show.

And he wrote a book and it was about how horrible healthcare was in America.

And I was like, oh, that's kind of an interesting guy.

And he said, you know, come to D.C.

And this came up yesterday because Tina said, have you ever been to see?

Of course I've been to D.C.

But the most recently was about 15 years ago.

And the crime was already bad then.

It just felt bad.

The whole place felt, you know, dark and

crime-ritten.

Dark and threatening.

And so I went to.

Shut it down.

So I went to, it says 25%.

So I went to see his movie and I'm watching this movie and I'm like, something's wrong about this movie.

And then at the end, you know, they have the filmmakers come up on the stage and talk about the film.

And there was Norton.

And Norton's with Wendell Potter.

And it's all about Obamacare.

Oh, this is going to save everything.

I'm like, what?

I was totally snookered by that guy.

So that's when I met her.

And I'm like, you are, she, she, talk about a bad vibe.

She just exudes nothing but bad vibe, mainly because she's a representative and is not allowed to vote.

That's the whole thing.

No, she's just allowed to make a fuss.

A fuss, exactly.

I have two DC clips.

All right.

No real background on what's going on, but interesting clips because this one kind of came and went from ABC played this.

It's a bureau girl.

I heard this.

Yeah, this is a good, this woman comes out and she's, this has kind of been quashed, but this is the DC story ABC Bureau girl.

I can tell you firsthand here in downtown D.C., where we work, right here around our bureau, just in the past six months, there were two people shot.

One person died literally two blocks down here from the bureau.

It was within the last two years that I actually was jumped walking just two blocks down from here.

And then just this morning, one of my coworkers said her car was stolen a block away from the bureau.

Nothing to see here.

There's nothing to see here.

And then, of course, that contrasts with my D.C.

supercut, which it could have been better.

I put some time into it, but I could have.

I did went 146, but this is a D.C.

crime.

It's a crime supercut.

When I go to D.C.,

I'm not afraid of losing my wallet so much as I'm afraid of losing my vote.

I'm not afraid of losing my wallet so much as I'm so sorry.

I'm afraid that my children's freedom to breathe will be stolen in a world where climate change policy is non-existent.

Hey, Jen, you know, people ask me as a journalist, are you, you know, you worried about the way things are going with this administration, them coming after you and all that kind of stuff?

And I think whatever my answer is, it's like double for you, right?

You're a journalist and you were in the administration.

Just occurred to me.

I need to find out if you're scared, because if you're not scared, then I'm good.

You know, I try not to be.

So many people have been calling me over the past couple of days going, you know,

like Washington should have gotten involved years ago.

This place is dangerous, it's a mess, it's a wreck, and whatever.

And then they'll go on Twitter, going, this is the worst outrage of all time.

I don't care what the crime statistics say.

Crime has been a problem in this city for the 32 years I've been living inside and outside of the city.

If, in fact, this only lasts for 30 days, it couldn't possibly have much of an impact on crime in D.C.

And this may be simply a media event to say that the president is concerned about crime, but in fact have nothing,

may accomplish nothing in DC or anywhere else.

The president is doing this not in order to make the city safer, that's the job of local law enforcement, but to solve his own political problems.

He needs to get his base talking and thinking about something besides his refusal to open up the export files.

Donald Trump makes himself Batman, and the nation's capital is Gotham City.

Well, for sure, for sure, everything needs to distract from Epstein.

We cannot have that.

And I think that plan is working.

You're like, well, whatever, moving on.

Normal people,

not obsessed with X,

they've forgotten about it because, you know, they're still trying to figure out what is a Florida ounce.

I don't get it.

A Florida ounce.

By the right show title.

Yeah, I thought that was a possibility.

Of course that was.

There is another motive here for the president, and this could be a signature move for him.

And we'll only know a little down the line how well that turns out, because whenever you have a crime bill, you don't want it to stick to your name if it starts arresting the wrong people.

Well, if it's a national emergency, we can do it without Congress.

But we expect to be to Congress before Congress very quickly.

And again, we think the Democrats will not do anything to stop crime, but we think the Republicans will do it almost unanimously.

So we're going to need a crime bill that we're going to be putting in, and it's going to pertain initially to D.C.

It's almost, we're going to use it as a very positive example.

And we're going to be asking for extensions on that, long-term extensions, because you can't have 30 days.

30 days is that's by the time you do it.

We're going to have this in good shape.

And don't forget, in the border, everyone said it would take years and you'd have to go back to Congress.

I never went to Congress for anything.

I just said, close the border.

And they closed the border.

And that was the end of it.

I didn't go back to Congress.

We're going to do this very quickly, but we're going to want extensions.

I don't want to call national emergency.

If I have to, I will.

But I think the Republicans in Congress will approve this pretty much unanimously.

Yeah,

this will be a signature move, almost as big as the stablecoin.

It'll be the Trump crime bill.

And you better check it twice because that can get pretty ugly.

Before you know it, you're a racist.

Well, he's been called a racist already for naming.

The racist thesis goes like this.

Trump wants to end and lower crime in black-controlled cities like Oakland, Baltimore,

etc.

He wants to

make crime go down in those black cities.

That is racist.

That is racist.

By definition, racist.

You know, I feel like a bit of, this, of course, is also, everything's about the midterms.

You and I have discussed that.

I feel like a bit of a dope

not having understood

really the system of illegal immigration, what the whole gambit was

from the Democrat Party mainly.

Yeah.

Probably completely.

And the gambit was always the census.

Right.

That's what they made a big fuss.

If you remember in 2020, they made a big fuss about, they tried to put a checkbox, are you illegal aliens?

Yes.

And the Democrats fought it tooth and nail, said, no, no, we have to count everybody.

They're here.

They have to be counted.

They're here.

They have to be counted.

And that was, of course, so they could get some more people

in certain states, California being one of them.

Yes.

That would get more representatives.

Yeah, well, that's the point.

And that's, I just feel dumb about it.

I mean,

everyone always says, well, they just want more Democrat voters.

They're going to vote illegally.

No, the whole point was the districting.

And how many.

We'll stop for a second.

With the recent busting of the

people in, I forgot what state it was.

There was some

whistleblower woman came out.

She was working for the DMV where they were selling driver's licenses to illegals

$200 a piece.

And

they want the votes.

I mean, yes,

the reapportionment was the main reason that they wanted millions of aliens in here, and a lot of them never were going to vote, but there are some voters, too.

But that was just bonus.

I mean, the real, with the census,

the big deal is how many representatives you get in Congress.

That's really the big win by counting everybody.

I think what you're referring to was Trump versus New York in 2020.

And it was a U.S.

Supreme Court case, but they punched it back down.

They said, no, no, this is,

we're not going to talk about this now.

They didn't want to deal with it at the time.

And so that stayed in the lower courts.

But I just wanted to, let me dive in for a second.

I just wanted to dive in with a little explanation of the census, because now we're getting to

words, words that matter.

I should probably read it verbatim, the U.S.

Constitution, Article 1, Section 2, Clause 3.

Representatives and direct taxes shall be apportioned among the several states which may be included with this Union according to their respective numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole number of free persons, including those bound to service for a term of 10 years and excluding Indians not taxed, three-fifths of all other persons, slaves.

The actual

enumeration, which I think is an important word, shall be made within three years after the first meeting of the Congress of the United States and within every subsequent term of 10 years in such matter as they shall by law direct.

And of course, the real bummer for counting came with the 14th Amendment, Section 2, and that was 1868.

Representatives shall be apportioned among the several states according to the respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each state, excluding Indians not taxed.

These Indians, annoying.

This removed the Three Fifths Clause, ensuring all persons except untaxed Native Americans are fully counted for representation.

So in every case where this comes up, the Democrats in general, it could easily be the Republicans if the tables are turned, they say, no, no, 14th Amendment supersedes that, and it's the whole number, not just enumerated

the free persons, but the whole number.

So I found CBS had a reasonable explanation of how this all works and its importance.

President Trump is calling on the Department of Commerce to make a new census.

The president wants the department to, quote, begin work on a new, highly accurate census based on modern-day facts and figures.

He goes on to say, people who are in our country illegally will not be counted in the census.

Now, for more on this, I'm joined by Hansi Lo Wong.

He's a correspondent at the Washington Desk for NPR.

Hansi, thanks so much for joining us.

First off, I think a lot of people aren't clear on what the census process actually looks like.

Can you explain that?

You know, when we're talking about the census, we are talking about the bedrock of U.S.

democracy.

The Constitution lays out instructions for a count of persons every 10 years.

It's a count of persons.

You won't find the word citizen in the Constitution's instructions.

And since 1790, there's been a thorny history of exactly which persons residing in the country was counted and by how much.

But one thing is true, which is that no resident of the United States without immigration, without legal status in the United States, has been left out of a census.

And these are numbers used to determine each state's share of congressional seats and electoral college votes.

All right, so that's pretty much what I said.

And so, what, if changes are possible, what exactly is President Trump going for?

And it does have to run through the Commerce Secretary, and I believe can only really be adjusted or recounted with Congress.

Now, is it even possible to make changes before the next census?

You know,

before like during the midterms.

That's an interesting question because I think the real question is: what is President Trump calling for?

He's calling for a new census.

Does he mean the 2030 census?

The preparations are already underway for that.

Is he calling for a new census before 2030?

Those are really big questions.

That's a big question to answer because that means how much time is left to prepare for this census.

The Census Bureau takes more than a decade to prepare for a census.

And then the question about potentially excluding people living in the states without legal status, you know, that's a big question because the 14th Amendment of the Constitution calls for the whole number of persons to be included in the numbers used to redistribute house seats and like 12 college votes.

So, the question possibility here, there are a lot of other questions that we need to answer first.

And I will point out that we discussed this very issue coming up two shows ago last Thursday, and no one was talking about it.

And we were on the inside track.

A little ball spike.

So, this

Heine, what's his name?

Hondi Heine Hannes.

He's from NPR.

And so he did a better report on NPR, which explains the tactics and the strategy of the Trump administration to

get the old census, as far as I can understand, recounted, excluding

illegal aliens or maybe people who don't live here anymore.

NPR has learned new details about how the Census Bureau is responding to President Trump's call for a new census.

That call comes as Trump keeps pushing some states to use census data to redraw voting maps and help Republicans keep control of the U.S.

House of Representatives.

Exactly.

Here's NPR's Hansi Lawong.

This week, Congress Secretary Howard Ludnick, who oversees the Census Bureau, acknowledged that Congress, not Trump, has final say of the population count that's used to determine each state's sheriff's seats in the House Representative, as according to three Bureau employees who heard a town hall event with Ludnick and asked not to be named because they fear retaliation.

Some House Republicans have recently proposed changing census law.

Well, I was talking with President Trump on the phone,

including Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia.

And I told him that my idea is to have a bill that immediately calls for a new census.

Speaking with the right-wing media outlet, Real America's Voice, Green also called for a new distribution of House seats and roundabouts.

I love how they have to add that in there.

Speaking with the right-wing news outlet, America's Voice.

Do you identify yourself as the left-wing news outlet NPR?

No.

To have a bill that immediately calls for a new census.

Speaking with the right-wing media outlet, Real America's Voice, Green also called for a new distribution of House seats and round of redistricting before next year's midterm election.

Well, I'll speak for both of us.

We love it.

Last month, President Trump publicly backed Greene's bill, along with Florida's Republican governor, Ron DeSantis.

I know they've considered doing another census.

Who has said the Trump administration has thought about counting before the next scheduled tally in 2030.

Because I think you have to do it once every 10 years.

It doesn't mean you can't do it more than every 10 years under the Constitution.

Any attempt at a census before 2030 will likely be challenged in court.

Trump and other Republicans are calling to alter census numbers that the 14th Amendment says must include the, quote, whole number of persons in each state by excluding some or all residents without U.S.

citizenship.

We won't hesitate to go back to court to protect representation for all communities.

Commissioner Mr.

Fielnyn Lincoln of the American Civil Liberties Union says she'll be monitoring the Trump administration's next census moves.

So far, the Commerce Department says the Census Bureau will use, quote, modern technology tools to analyze data in response to Trump's recent call.

AI!

Throw it into AI, that'll fix it.

They're serious about this.

I think they could actually, they could maybe do something with

nowhere.

They're going to try.

Yeah, well, they're going to try.

They're having enough trouble just reapportioning Texas.

You know, it's enough of a headache.

That's because they're just full of hot air, not actually doing anything.

Constitutional lawyer Rob actually sent me something.

He said,

Friday, Texas Attorney General Ken Paxon filed a quo warranto,

which is kind of a cool band name.

Hey, everybody, we're quo warranto.

That is a cool band name.

He filed that in the Texas Supreme Court.

It was interesting, says Constitutional Lawyer Lawyer Rob.

He says

rapid action will happen from this.

And he thinks that there will be a conditional writ of quo warranto giving the Democrats 48 hours to return to work.

If they don't return, their seats will be automatically declared vacant.

And then the governor, Abbott, can pack the seats with

loyalists.

Yeah, that's what you do.

That sounds like a good idea.

I played the Beto clip.

This is even funnier.

Remind me to read the next paragraph in his.

That's where we get this clip, by the way.

Nailed it.

Texas wants Beto behind bars.

The state's attorney general asking a district judge to jail Beto O'Rourke for bankrolling Texas Dems who fled the state during their redistricting fight.

Ken Paxton claims Beto violated a court order that barred him and his nonprofit, powered by the people, from fundraising efforts.

So, here to discuss his allegations is Texas Attorney General Ken Paxon.

He's also running for the U.S.

Senate.

So, Mr.

Attorney General,

let's talk to you about some of the comments that Beto made over the weekend.

Listen here, and we'll get your response.

We punch first and we punch harder.

We want California, and New Jersey, and Illinois, and Maryland, and every other state where the Democrats hold the governor's mansion, the Assembly, and the state senate to redraw their congressional districts now, not wait for Texas to move first to maximize Democratic Party advantage.

Listen, you may say to yourself, well, those aren't the rules.

There are no refs in this game.

The rules.

We are going to win whatever it takes.

So is that why Beto's potentially getting locked up, or is there a bigger reason?

No, that's pretty much it.

You saw it right there.

There was already a temporary restraining order that stopped him from raising money.

And he was at that rally, clearly raising money for not political reasons, which would have been appropriate.

He was raising it for personal expenses to help these Democrats in Texas evade their responsibilities.

That's the problem.

And he was ordered by a judge to stop fundraising, and he said, basically, he just continued to do it.

That's interesting because Rob has a different take on this.

Rob is the Attorney General, so that's probably the official take.

Well, the official messaging.

It's the Bed O bribes, everybody.

Paxson says, not only does what Beto is doing violate the Texas Deceptive Trade Practices Act, but also is a form of felony bribery because it constitutes a benefit given to a public servant in exchange for violating his duties.

Yeah.

So, Beto bribes.

Wow, Mike.

What's happening?

I would think, you know, of course, I think Beto, who's beta, it's Beto.

Beta or Rora because he's kind of a beta.

You got to say

Beto is

looking, you know, he just can't get out of politics because of his wife, you know, has been, he's basically the one who forces him into being a battle.

She's got the money.

She's got to do something.

She's got the money, and she keeps pushing.

You'd be good at this, you know, kind of thing.

He's just a wimpy guy.

He's horrible.

But I think he would love to get arrested and thrown in jail.

So he could be a martyr.

Yeah.

You're right.

To get more attention to him, get himself more attention.

I went to jail for the Republic.

I mean,

you see it a mile away.

Do you remember when the Democrats thought, oh, he's so cool?

He skateboards.

He skateboards.

He was skateboarding onto stages when he was running.

Oh, I forgot all about the fact that he's skateboarding.

And he was drumming to Phil Collins in the air tonight while in the drive-through line for Waterburger or whatever he was doing.

Oh, I missed that too.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

He's horrible.

Yeah, I think Betto the rock star.

Do we have a.

You can't go 10 feet without an interruption from a Betto backer.

Thank you so much.

I love you, too.

Thank you all.

You're a rock star.

No, no, there's just so many great people.

You can't go anywhere without getting.

Hey!

Hey!

Hey!

You're a rock star, said the mainstream media.

You're a rock star.

You're the best, Betto.

Woo!

Hey, it's a new voice.

That voice is almost identical to that woman's voice.

It was pretty good.

It took me a couple of beats before I figured out it wasn't her.

You're the best skateboarder.

Can I get on the back of your skateboard?

Good voice.

Hey,

important information.

It's come to light.

I believe we have not only discovered the reason for our downward trending troll room numbers, but have also fixed and addressed the issue.

Ah, okay.

This is good news.

Yes, it is.

And it's been going going on for several weeks.

And

we noticed.

Yeah.

People were, it's very difficult to get reports from people who are like, it doesn't work.

Screen, screenshot.

It doesn't work.

So trying to get technical analysis is very, very, but it was actually Rocky Thomas who donated on the last show.

I'm doing the speech with her, or lost speech, fireside chat.

at podcast movement on Tuesday in Dallas.

Never mind.

There was a moment there where there was a funny line.

You choked.

I choked.

He choked.

He choked on it, man.

Now she's technically very adept and she said,

you know, I've been trying to listen to the live stream with the fountain app.

And then so she sent me a screenshot with an actual error message like, oh, thank you.

This is good.

So I talk it over with Void Zero.

And it was odd because it would happen to people.

it happened a lot with people on what we thought was only iPhones on ATT,

and then they'd switch to a Wi-Fi network, and it wouldn't be a problem

on the same phone.

And then people would have trouble at home on a Wi-Fi network, and then there were Android.

So we're trying to figure out,

is it a phone problem?

Is it a network problem?

You'll never guess what the problem was.

I'll never guess.

But you got to try one guess at least.

It was a configuration problem.

Yes.

Config.

And the config issue was IPv6.

So

people's phones will be sometimes hitting IPv4,

which is the old addressing scheme, and sometimes IPv6.

And what Void Zero is sleuthing because he

Void Zero,

when I say, hey, man, something's wrong here.

IPv6 is a huge problem.

Yes.

I shut it off everywhere.

I don't have IPv6.

I have it shut off on all my systems.

I'm just going to use up the internet.

I don't care.

I'm not going to use IPv6 because it's always the last thing you think of.

So our.

Well, it's the last thing you think of if you're like you and myself, who have turned it off years ago

on all the routers and all the machines that we don't even think about it anymore.

I can't remember those numbers.

I can remember four series of numbers.

I can't remember IPv6 number is no good.

So our cert

our

certificate for SSL, which, of course, we don't want a man in the middle of our stream.

Oh, no, we need to secure that button.

We got to secure that.

Otherwise, the little guy with the bank robber will come out and make you all afraid of our insecure stream.

Thank you, Google.

Was misconfigured on IPv6 or wasn't,

I'll just say misconfigured.

And Void Zero figured it out.

And so I think...

Wait a minute, so my guess was accurate.

Your guess was spot on.

Configure.

Yeah, only amazed.

We didn't know that it was IPv6.

Who would have thought about that?

Well,

this is the last thing you think of.

Yeah, it's

man.

That's a good line, Logan 5.

So we needed IPv6 because we had all those illegal aliens that were using up the IP addresses.

So that's why they were telling us.

Switch to IPv6.

This is the future.

Just like passcodes.

IPv6 passcodes and SSL certificates are the future of headache.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Shout out to John from Autos

here in Fredericksburg.

This was a crazy event.

I've told you about Autos, haven't I?

I think you looked at the menu at Autos with me one time.

Yeah, I did.

So Auto's German Bistro restaurant we're having dinner with some friends it's a small place they maybe have 10 tables nice place if you're ever in fredericksburg definitely check out auto's they've got spot-on german food except for one thing

or at least something i never saw in germany which is fryer fried sauerkraut balls

yeah which are just fantastic so we're sitting specialty item from some part of germany i've never seen them either well uh here's what happened so we're sitting there and we're done with our dinner and all all of a sudden, the server comes over.

He puts down four forks.

He gives us each a glass of some

like dinner wine schnappsy type thing.

And then he puts down a cheesecake and a chocolate cake.

I'm like, but who ordered that?

So, no, that's from John over there.

And this is a young guy, couldn't have been 40, maybe 35.

And he's sitting at the other table.

He waves.

And, you know, so I'm like, okay, so I go over.

I go over.

I said, hey, I'm Adam.

He said, yeah, I'm John.

I'm the owner in the morning.

Like, what?

In the morning.

He says, Yeah, I've owned the place for 12 years.

I said, This is fantastic.

I didn't know you were producers, and I knew you guys came in here, but never a chance to say hi and

make an in-person donation.

I'm holding my hand out for the check, but no, I guess that was the dessert.

And I said, How about the

hey, send me half?

Say, tell me,

tell me about the fried sauerkraut balls.

I totally made that up.

You totally made it up?

Yeah, it's not a delicacy from somewhere in Germany.

Oh, Oh, that's cool.

Well, what?

Yeah, but

it's, you know, it's got the theme.

You can make stuff up thematically within a cuisine that's still part of the cuisine.

Sorry to tell you that.

I'm all in.

I'm all in.

But did he give you the recipe?

That sounds like something we should have on the show.

I will get the recipe for a tip of the day.

I will get John's sauerkraut balls, fried sauerkraut balls.

And is that good?

Oh, well, I've had them before.

They are phenomenal.

It's like crack.

It's almost like a Bitterball.

You know, know, the Dutch bitterball.

No, I don't know the Dutch Bitterball, which is the round ball croquette type snack.

You've seen it, you

have it with mustard, with like sharp mustard.

I probably had it, but yeah, so it has a brown, crusty outside, and on the inside, is this battered?

Is that the idea?

Lightly battered, lightly.

I mean, the outside is battered.

The inside has it's like, you know, brain matter with sauerkraut, basically.

Um,

so good.

Yeah, I'll get the recipe.

It probably just consists of sauerkraut, brain matter, and batter and oil.

I don't know.

At any rate, it's a lot tastier than this new food product, which everyone is talking about.

I don't know if you've heard about the new food product.

Well, you're not talking about the Bill Gates butter.

Yes, I am.

Yes, I am.

It's not new.

First videos of it were over a year ago.

Well, where's your clip?

I don't have a clip.

It's over a year ago.

I don't play.

I try not to play old clips because people say, hey, that's old.

Well, it's going viral now.

Everyone's talking about the carbon butter.

In the middle of an industrial park in a suburb west of Chicago, something unprecedented is happening.

So you're using this gas right now to like cook your food.

And we're proposing that we would like to first make your food with that gas.

The company is called Saver, and you better believe it.

Their pioneering tech uses carbon and hydrogen to make the stick of butter you see on this plate this is pretty novel to be able to make food that looks and tastes and feels exactly like dairy butter but with no agriculture whatsoever and no long ingredient i love the up talking people like whenever someone's up talking like that you don't want to eat that product but with no agriculture whatsoever and no long ingredient list the average person can't pronounce.

It's really just our fat, some water, a little bit of lecithin as an emulsifier, and some natural flavor and color.

Hold on.

Natural flavor.

Natural flavor is literally chemicals.

And some natural flavor and color.

How?

Fats are made up of carbon and hydrogen chains.

The goal here, replicate those chains without a chemical.

Okay, stop the clip.

I'm going to ask you at the beginning of this, and I posed the same question to the...

to the Twitters people that play this.

This is the newest version of the clip, which is over.

The old one is better.

It's got Bill eating ice.

Bill's eating ice cream.

He's going, this is really good.

And I would like to know

what the difference between this is, they admit it's hydrocarbons, hydrogen, and some lecithin to make it smoother.

That's exactly the methodology you use to make margarine.

How is this any different than margarine?

Well, specifically, can anybody answer me this question?

It's margarine 3.0.

Margarine

is oils, miscellaneous oils, and jacked up with hydrogen, hydrogenated oils that make it the hard as a rock.

Well, actually, in this clip, if you'll just wait 20 more seconds, you'll hear what it actually resembles.

Chains.

The goal here, replicate those chains without animals or plants.

And they did it.

They tell me to simplify: they take carbon dioxide from the air and hydrogen from water, heat them up up and oxidize them.

The final result?

It looks like a wax.

Yeah, it's wax.

That's what it's candle wax.

That's what I'm doing.

Yeah,

they're using hydro.

This is the iterations of, I'm going to give you the iterations of a margarine.

Yeah, please.

Margarine began.

Yes, let's go.

Margarine began as a hydrogen.

Why?

No, wait.

I want to know why did we start with margarine?

Because somebody invented it and they decided that, well, what are we going to do with this crap?

Well, let's tell people that butter is unhealthy.

And so they marketed it as a healthy alternative to butter.

Look at butter will make you fat.

So they, so they, the original margarine was animal fats hydrogenated into oleomargarine.

That, if, that was 1.0.

People then said, well, animal fats, oh, God.

And so they said, okay.

So they went to margarine 2.0, which was the stuff that we all know, Blue Bonnet and all the the rest of them.

That was vegetable oils plus hydrogenation.

That's margarine 2.0.

This is basically crude oil pumped from the ground.

So they've skipped the regular process of either animal fats or vegetable oil or seed oils, as you would have it.

And now they've gone just straight to petroleum products, pumped up with the stuff and added some flavor.

This is disgusting.

This is, thank you.

That is a phenomenal overview of

margarine and you nailed it because this is that's what's new.

What's new is not that this is healthier for you.

No, what's new is this is better for the environment.

It's all done releasing zero greenhouse gases using no farmland to feed cows.

We're like not at full capacity in this facility yet.

And even though we're standing in a factory setting, and in addition to the carbon footprint being much lower for a process like this, right, the land footprint is a thousand times lower than what you need in traditional agriculture.

I know what you're thinking.

I think we need to taste the.

I would love for you to text the obligatory, oh, tastes just like butter segment.

How does it taste?

I love butter, so I'm going to take a really healthy amount.

Admittedly, surprisingly, like butter.

Oh, what?

No, it tastes like butter.

They had a big thing of salt next to it, so so she smears this petroleum goo on her bread and then puts salt on it.

Okay, yeah, that'll taste good.

You might as well just put Vaseline on your bread.

Vaseline.

I can't believe it's not Vaseline.

It's just butter.

So here we go with the final payoff because it's a doozy.

Their teams here in Batavia, Illinois, and their home lab base in San Jose, California, backed by Bill Gates, who wrote in his blog, quote, the idea of switching to lab-made fats and oils may seem strange at first, but their potential to significantly reduce our carbon footprint is immense.

Believing butter can make a difference.

This is really about how we feed our species and heal our planet at the same time.

By killing us, you heal the planet.

Killing us off.

Bill Gates, his end goal is always, we'll save the planet when we kill you.

Everything he does is like, you need vaccines to kill you, and then the planet will heal.

I just found it phenomenal.

Thank you.

It is,

what did you call it?

Margarine 3.0.

Crude oil.

Yeah, crude oil hydrogenated.

Crude oil.

Well, Trump should say, we've got the most.

We could have the biggest butter mountain in the world.

I just love that.

I know, I know it's not new.

And probably I should find the one with Bill Gates eating the ice cream crap made out of crude oil.

This is, who wants a Florida ounce?

I think I'll go have some Florida ounce out of Florida.

Bill Gates.

And we call it Bill's butter.

Let's just call it what it is.

Bill's crude oil.

Bill's butter.

That's a good thing.

Bill's butter.

Yeah.

I think he's a shareholder in this company, Saber.

Well, that's what they just said.

Oh, I'm sorry.

Okay.

Yeah.

You were too busy hating on me to even listen to the clip.

No, it's because I hate this whole idea.

The fact that they can snooker the public into buying into this kind of thing.

And the thing is, it's going to be like, you know, it's going to be terrible.

It's just they took me, they talk a big game.

This is like the, if you don't remember the Olestra scandal.

Olestra.

Olestra.

This is the stuff that came out.

It was going to be the new cooking oil.

Oh, we're going to use Olestra because it doesn't have any cholesterol or some bullcrap.

And it was, and so their potato chips, all the stuff was released.

This was about 20 years ago, I think, when they released all these Olestra products.

And they were all, and so a friend of mine had a bag of lace potato chips that were cooked in Olestra.

And he's eating them.

And he says, he says, you want to try these things?

I said, sure, because I wanted to check out what Olestra was like.

What was the difference?

Oh, my God.

It was some, there was something.

You'd eat a potato chip, and then all of a sudden, after maybe two chips, there was a coating, like a wax coating on the roof of your palate, and you couldn't get it off with your tongue.

You'd go

trying to get this horrible, whatever the hell it was, stuck all over your mouth and teeth, this goo, and it was, it was on, it was inedible.

I don't know if you could even digest it.

There were reports of all kinds of pooping issues because of this Olestra.

Look it up.

Yeah, well, actually,

it's Olestra,

O-L-E-S-T-R-A.

Here's a commercial.

Olestra.

Can warm-blooded Americans say the difference between Lay's Wow potato chips and their favorite chips?

Let's find out.

You know, they're fat-free, only half the calories.

Holy cow!

These are great.

These tastes are good as my regular chips.

These are tasty.

Yeah, so

the brand was WOW.

Olestra, wow.

And they apparently

made you poop.

I guess so, yeah.

Let me see, what was this?

Ah, the 1990s.

Oh, I don't need to do that.

Yeah, that people got diarrhea after eating them.

What a product.

Olestra.

I don't know how you could eat as much, enough of it to get diarrhea, to be honest about it.

It was like within two or three chips that

it was coating your mouth and tongue, and

you couldn't get it off.

I don't know how you could possibly eat enough to get diarrhea.

This is another boomer moment, everybody.

Enjoy.

Because, you know, when we were kids, we had chips that made you shart.

These days, you got to eat crude oil butter.

We had it better back in our day.

Let me tell you that.

We had it better.

Oh, man.

Oh, man.

Oh, man.

That's our show.

Good night, everybody.

It's a pretty much, actually, that was a summary of the show for sure.

That's all we do.

Oh, goodness.

We got stories.

We do.

We got this.

We got stories.

We definitely got this.

How about some, since we were talking a little about crime, how about the cashless bail malarkey I want to play some clips of?

Oh, I'm not familiar with this.

Well, you know, cashless bail is going to be the big threat.

Well, this was...

No, wait a minute.

Cashless bail, that's what started during the BLM riots.

Am I correct?

Yeah, well.

Which means you get bail without having to pay cash, which is kind of the opposite of what bail is.

Yeah, they just let you go.

And so, the idea of bail, for those who don't know it, who have not been in jail or have had friends in jail overnight,

you get a bail set at like $10,000.

And if you go to a bail bondsman, usually located conveniently next to the jail, it's the great American tradition, then you can pay 10%, $1,000.

He'll put up the bond, and then you get out.

And of course, if you skip town, you lose your $1,000, and they could put a warrant out, and then Dog

the bounty hunter comes after you and rousts you and takes everything.

Before we play these three clips from NPR, which are misleading

and

gee, let me,

I guess I'm

redundancy there.

Misleading clips from NPR, I want to play, I want to play, I want to read something from, I did a

AI search with perplexity.

Oh, you did a deep dive.

It's not a deep dive.

It's just a stupid thing.

But I I just asked the question, has any murder suspect ever been let out on bail in a cashless bail jurisdiction?

Yes, it goes on.

There's been many, and they have some documented here, the New York, the New Jersey in particular,

different murder suspects here and there.

Murder suspects.

Wow.

So

this let them go.

But

if you listen to this NPR for the for the idiots that think NPR is the be-all end-all, let's listen to these clips.

This is Cashless Murder Bail Malarkey One.

Well, we're keeping an eye on National Guard troops as they patrol the streets of Washington, D.C.

I'm looking through the window right now behind the curtain from our NPR studios.

But let's take up something else.

The president said in his news conference about crime on Monday, that cashless bail is on his radar in Washington, D.C.

and other Democratic-led cities like Chicago.

He made this statement about no cash bail, which, as far as we can tell, is not true.

Not true.

Not true.

I mean, bad politicians started it.

Bad leadership started it.

But that was the one thing that central, no cash bail.

Somebody murders somebody and they're out on no cash bail that before the day is out.

Again, murderers out on cashless bail doesn't seem to be happening.

Let's get some facts from an expert.

Sandra Guerre.

Well, hold on a second.

Why didn't they just use perplexity like you did?

Why'd they have to bring in the middle of the map?

They could have done any search and found this out.

Yeah, with this.

I just gave a free plug to perplexity for no good reason.

Oh, Oh, okay.

But the point is that there is no research done on this report, and then they bring in an expert, and this is a beauty.

Murderers out on cashless bail doesn't seem to be happening.

Let's get some facts from an expert.

Facts.

Sandra Guerra Thompson is a law professor at the University of Houston.

She is a court-appointed monitor in Harris County, Texas, after cashless bail was instituted there for lesser crimes.

For lesser crimes, Professor Sandra, welcome.

Hello.

So bail is something we understand people pay pay to stay out of jail while they await trial, but a lot of people can't afford bail.

They have no money.

So cashless bail is a system where only people who are a flight risk or a danger to the community can be held in detention while they await trial, not simply people who can't pay bail.

Have I got that right?

Yeah, that's right.

It's a complicated system, but I think that that covers it.

That simplifies it.

Well, so is it true, as the president said, that if you're accused of murder, you can get get this cashless bail and get out by the end of the day?

Well, it's not true in Harris County.

Our system only applies to misdemeanors.

Okay, so maybe not in Harris County.

It doesn't.

So she's got, so Harris County has cashless bail for petty theft, trespassing.

And so she, so she, so no.

Will you let a murderer out?

No.

But they're, but their system doesn't,

there's no cashless bail

at that level for felonies.

So why is she asking, why is this woman the expert?

She's in a county that doesn't even have cashless bail, really.

Well, but she's

she's on the NPR payroll and she was very, very adept to say, it's a very complicated system.

No, it's not.

The judge determines what bail is and the judge says, oh, you poor slob, you know, cashless bail.

It's not complicated.

But here's where it just gets worse.

So the lawsuit that we oversee

that has been settled by the county only applies to the lower level offenses that are non-violent and really don't raise public safety risks.

Such as, I mean, throw a couple out.

Theft or trespassing or some minor offense.

Are you saying that, I mean, is there anywhere where someone might have been charged with committing a murder and they're out at the end of the day on a cashless bail?

Probably not.

Perplexity, people.

Perplexity.

Wait, wait.

Probably not.

She doesn't know.

No.

She could have said, I don't know.

She could have easily said, I don't know, but instead she said, probably not.

But that could have been followed with, probably not.

I don't know.

Why are you asking me?

Well, but I don't have any idea.

And why didn't you do some research in PR Lady and get some facts to us?

No, no, no.

We have to mislead the public Well, because it doesn't make any sense that a murderer would get out.

The whole point is to say, Trump is wrong.

That's the whole point of this entire exercise.

You think?

Yeah.

Gambling.

Onward.

Every county, it seems, has its own system.

For example,

in our state, I can't really speak to every system, but I think that that answer is most likely no.

It's hard to imagine.

Wow.

Now she's hallucinating like perplexity.

Hard to imagine.

It's hard to imagine.

Hard to imagine.

It's hard to imagine.

So you're not insulted by the content.

You're insulted by just the

insulting nature of this whole segment that they just bring a lady on who's an expert who doesn't know anything.

Yeah.

They bring a lady on who doesn't know anything to confirm the biases without anybody doing it.

What they pay these people at NPR $400,000.

No, not that lady.

Not that.

Nah.

You don't know that.

No, it's only

the name host, the name brand hosts.

But she's doing okay.

I'm sure she's not a struggling podcaster yet.

The point is, is that what does it take to do a little work?

No work is done.

Just, I don't think so.

Oh, I don't know.

Probably not.

Doesn't make any sense that that would happen.

What kind of reporting is this?

This is why it's very difficult for our show.

I mean, what else is there left for us?

There's nothing left.

I mean, that's actually a very depressing series of clips, I must say.

It's unbelievable.

The only thing it gives me is a good lead-in into my perplexity story.

The Wall Street Journal is reporting that AI startup Perplexity is making a surprise $34.5 billion offer to buy Google's Chrome browser, even though Perplexity itself is valued at just $18 billion.

Now, this unsolicited bid comes as a federal judge is weighing right now whether to force Google Google to sell Chrome to loosen its grip on web search after that ruling last year that the company illegally monopolized the market.

Now, Perplexity says that major investors are backing the deal.

That's according to the Wall Street Journal report.

And it would keep Google as Chrome's default search engine while running the browser independently.

Now, Google, which controls more than 60% of that global browser market, hasn't signaled any interest in selling.

Analysts see a forced sale as unlikely, but the offer signals that there's at least one willing buyer if the court orders it.

We're out to both Perplexity and Google, but didn't immediately hear back.

Yeah, Google is going to hold on to that with all their might.

They do not want to give up the Chrome browser.

They're going to have to.

We talked about that on Horowitz.

Oh, you do?

Yeah, it's estimated that that browser is worth about 50 billion.

Because of the advertising, the tracking and all the stuff, it reports back to Google, correct?

Yeah.

Yeah.

So they're so that.

But geez, 50.

You know, where what I remember when people were designing these independent browsers, they still

stuck to it.

Vivaldi is still out there.

Opera, which is, you know, I think it's the two-sided.

Opera is always a good product.

Yeah.

But, you know, there's still a monopoly.

Like Apple, oh yeah, you can load any other browser you want.

But, of course, whenever you open up a document that needs to go to a web browser, I believe it still by default opens up Safari.

And I don't know.

I'm staying out of the Apple ecosystem, but I'm not sure that you can set that.

That should actually be

anti-competitive, deemed anti-competitive, but whatever.

Should be illegal.

Yeah.

Well,

I got more NPR stuff if I wanted just to brag on them.

Yeah, really?

I was already going to AI.

I'm off to the races.

And you want to pull me back into bad reporting?

Okay.

Yeah, let's do the new.

This is about the snap.

This is another example of bad reporting because it's like nobody can even do basic math.

By the way,

Firefox, I don't think, is a better alternative.

People are saying, what about Firefox, man?

I use Firefox.

I don't.

I use Brave.

I find Firefox to be a better product than Brave.

Yeah.

Because

Brave doesn't scale correctly

too often.

It doesn't scale?

How much are you surfing?

How many websites, how many tabs do you have open?

I will have a lot of tabs open.

You're a tab guy.

I'm a tab guy.

I didn't like to be.

I didn't want to be.

I resisted as best I could.

Bemros uses links.

I'm with you, Bemrose, links.

That's the way to go.

So,

all right.

So now we're going to rag on NPR some more.

Just that then you can take, then we go to AI and then we can talk about Russia.

Oh, yes, Alaska.

Yes.

Okay.

Also known as

Alaska.

Also known as Russia.

Well, it was once Russia, and they're still irked about it.

So this is the bogus snap support stuff.

This is about they're taking, you know, oh, you know, they won't let people get soda pop with snap, and they're going to reduce their ability to say it's racist.

It's racist.

It's racist.

But what's interesting in this report is

if you start listening to it carefully, the math doesn't add up.

And I'm going to discuss it.

And a lot of these clips are very short, so I can just bring a couple of points up.

That NPR refuses.

People give these people money.

Do not support NPR.

The cuts to the SNAP program or food stamps in the new tax and spending law are bad news for independent grocery stores.

Many of these stores see the bulk of their sales from SNAP dollars.

Stephen Basaha of the Gulf States Newsroom reports from Alabama.

About a 20-minute drive from Auburn University is Wright's Market in Opalaika.

It's an independent grocer, but really it doesn't look all that different from your classic supermarket.

Just a bit smaller.

It's got aisles packed with sweet tea, veggies, and the

fresh catfish that shopper Diane Chavis says you could get.

I'm an old country girl, so I like old country products.

And what brought you in today?

Best ground beef in town.

My husband, if I'm in a hurry and have to stop somewhere else, he can tell every time as soon as he bites into it that I haven't gone to rights to get that ground beef.

It's time for you to do your accent because whenever you get a man or woman on the street with that accent, what are we supposed to think?

They're dumb.

They're dumb, dad, gummy.

But they're dumb.

But what's dumb here is not the people, but it's the NPR reporter.

First of all, they say, this woman, she goes there for the catfish.

And the first thing she does, she never mentions catfish.

She goes there for the burger.

So they can't even get that right.

Best ground beef here in this side of the world.

Yeah, my husband is he gets the bots into it.

He says, oh, you didn't go rush.

You got to the wrong place, woman.

Let me smack you around.

Put on your outfit.

I'm going to make a baby with you.

Yes, this is the way you do it.

We would be good on these networks.

Well, if they keep it up,

that's where we're going to be working.

That's where we're going to end up.

That's where all the money goes.

Now, Jimmy Wright is not talking about his own store closing.

Customers will still come for that good beef, but he doesn't have much room to cut either.

After all, grocery stores usually have pretty tight margins.

I mean, we're a penny business.

Wright behind the litter.

He says for every dollar spent at a store like his, grocers only net about a penny and a half.

The rest gets spent on things like keeping the lights on and restocking shelves for products that either get sold or go bad.

Now that some of those snap dollars are going away, Wright hopes he doesn't have to let any of his employees go.

That would be the very, very, very, very last thing that I did.

Okay, hold on a second.

So, first of all, the grocery-clip two?

I think so.

Okay.

It might not have been.

I'm sorry.

Okay.

It may not have been because they're kind of mislabeled, all jumbled up.

Well, you say two in big letters.

Yes, I know, but then three, four, five, six or with numbers.

And it's okay.

It's me.

I should know better.

I'm sorry.

Clip two.

The right right behind the Wrights market name is owner Jimmy Wright.

There we go.

He says he's living the American dream serving his hometown.

Of course, that does not mean the job's always been easy.

I'll be 64 in September.

I think the last five years have moved me up to like 84.

I'm there as far as

it's been a challenging few years.

Remember, those tough five years started with COVID-19 and then inflation.

And the latest challenge comes from changes to SNAP.

SNAP is a federal safety net program that helps low-income families pay for groceries.

The new tax and spending law passed by Republicans cut SNAP spending by about 20% over 10 years.

So that's 2% a year.

Boom.

That's the first number we want to know.

It's 2%.

Yes.

Coming up.

2% is coming up.

And hold on.

Is that 2% less that people get to spend or 2% less people that get to take advantage of SNAP when when they bring it to the 2000s.

Well, it doesn't matter.

We're going to go with just 2% less to spend.

All right, 2% less.

And so we're going to use that as our baseline for what the calculations are going to be as we go forward.

Okay, now we go to ⁇ that was clip two.

Let's go to 3.

20% over 10 years, mostly through new work requirements and a cap on inflation adjustments.

Yeah, okay.

So work requirements.

Well, so now they've changed it.

It's 2%

or 20% over 10 years, but 2%,

but

they're kind of counting in in work requirements as part of this 2%.

So in other words, they're really not changing anything.

Hold on a second.

When it comes to low percentages like 2%, it's a big deal to NPR.

Remember, Congress defunded them of 1% and they lost their ever-loving minds.

So 2% is double.

In fact,

it's 100% more.

I'm just saying.

100% more.

That's the way they would do it.

That's how they do it.

And by the way, for the people who don't know what Florida ounces are, I'm sure they're they're going, oh, this is an outrage.

Florida ounces.

All right, number, okay, that was three.

Let's go to four.

This is shorter than because of this, this math we're doing here.

Four.

The problem for independent grocers like Wright is that snap purchases are often a big part of their sales.

We're somewhere around the third of our business comes through snap.

And it's way more than that for some other grocery stores, especially ones in low-income areas where they're often the only option for healthy food.

Those are the stores most at risk of closing.

I get concerned that will that have a negative effect on these small stores in rural America and in urban America where they cannot stay open.

I wonder if they went to this guy, because, you know, dad gummet, 20%,

that's going to hurt me.

They might have just said, hey, you know, SNAP is being reduced by 20% over 10 years.

How is that?

Is that going to hurt your business over 10 years?

So we go to, we're still dealing with 2%, which is what it is over the next year.

2%.

Some of it work requirements.

And a lot of that might, yeah, it may be no percent based on the rest of it, but we're going to give him the benefit of the doubt or the worst case scenario, 2%.

And a third of his business is

snap.

So that means 33%,

33%

of his business is snap, and only 2%

of that is going to be reduced so we're talking about point six percent of his total revenue oh now now you're trying to do math

it's hurting

forbid that you do some math on this they could have asked perplexity

so point six percent of his total revenues are will be affected let's go to the next clip the national groceries association says yeah this will have an impact on grocers but it could have been worse they lobbied to have the original steeper version of the cut reduced, and Congress did that by about a third.

Stephanie Johnson is with the NGA and says they are happy the law renews personal and business tax breaks that would have expired without it.

We're very excited about the tax cuts in that package.

I just want to say we are.

We were strong supporters of the certainty that those continuing those tax provisions gave to our members.

Wait a minute.

So they actually got a benefit?

Again, because of the Trump tax cuts for billionaires.

And I have other NPR clips where every time they talk about NPR in particular, when they talk about those Trump tax cuts, which are not tax cuts at all, but an extension of the old tax cuts from his first term in the big, beautiful bill, the tax cuts,

the NPR always says it's tax cuts for billionaires.

Yes.

When it's not, it's not tax cuts for billionaires, but that's what they always say.

I have clip after clip coming later.

It's also also for this guy, the little diagonal my grocery store.

Yeah, it actually.

So he's got the tax benefit.

Everyone's got the tax benefit, and they throw this in.

I don't know why they did that.

I think it's counterproductive to what they're trying to do here.

Yeah, strange.

And so I found that to be, well, that's interesting.

They put some actual facts in here, but we're just...

Maybe it's an Easter egg for, you know, there's still some smart people listening to NPR.

They're like, hey, wink, wink, nudge, nudge.

We're just doing this.

It's a possibility.

We're just doing this to get at Trump, but, you know, wink, wink, nudge, nudge.

So I think this is the last clip, which is the other one, which brings us to the end.

Now, Jimmy Wright is not talking about his own store closing.

Customers will still come for that good beef.

But he doesn't have much room to cut either.

After all, grocery stores usually have pretty tight margins.

I mean, we're a penny business.

He means that literally.

He says for every dollar spent at a store like his, grocers only net about a penny and a half.

The rest gets spent on things like keeping the lights on and restocking shelves for products that either get sold or go bad.

Now that some of those snap dollars are going away, Wright hopes he doesn't have to let any of his employees go.

That would be the very, very, very, very last thing that I did.

Wait a minute.

One and a half penny and a half is left over.

That's his margin after all of his expenses, I presume.

Yeah, that's what they said.

Yeah, so that's so.

And so he's going to lose 0.6

of the penny and a half at the most.

Yeah.

But then

0.6.

No, no, but they made it sound like

out of that penny and a half, he still has to pay for the lights and his employees.

No,

I thought they made it pretty clear.

I'm here to now.

Jimmy Wright is not talking about his own store closing.

Customers will still come for that good beef, but he doesn't have much room to cut either.

After all, grocery stores usually have pretty tight margins.

I mean, we're a penny business.

He means that literally.

He says for every dollar spent at a store like his, grocers only net about a penny and a half.

No, net, net.

So that's not just on the product.

That's on everything.

Margins.

That's his operating margin.

It's not, I disagree.

No, he said net.

Net, right, net, net, after your employees and your lights and your building and everything.

Right.

Yeah.

But then they make it sound like, and then from that penny and a half, he still has to pay his employees and keep the the lights on.

The rest gets spent on things like keeping the lights on.

See?

So they're no, no, I think it's just poorly presented.

NPR poorly presenting?

Get out of town.

All right.

Your final point.

The final point is that the worst case scenario, he loses 0.6%

of 1.5%.

It's not even 1%.

It's not even a penny.

Yeah.

It's like he loses less.

It's ludicrous.

If you do the math, this entire report is bogus.

This is some of the worst reporting part two

that you can imagine.

If you listen to NPR, you're getting bad news.

You're getting exaggeration.

You're getting, it's basically Florida ounces.

They're making people that are stupid, that listen to NPR and listen, oh, whoa, these poor

they're losing their asses because they only make a penny and a half and they're losing 20 per year.

Their snap is being cut way back.

This is nonsense.

And the Austin women who go to my hair girl, they're in the back of their mind, they might not say it, but they're thinking, and by the way, it's racist because poor people are black.

That's what they're really thinking.

That's another one.

That's what they're really thinking.

That's what they're really thinking.

It's unbelievable.

I think,

okay, I'm done for part one of my screed

and you should not be telling people to stop donating to npr because otherwise what will you do when they have no more programming for you to ridicule there's other stuff to really i haven't even you know cbs is is ripe

so a little bit of a meta thing as in not meta the company but overarching with the oh incredibly successful AI business, which is just booming.

It's so great.

It's so great.

I don't know what industry has ever done this.

I don't think this has ever happened, certainly not in technology.

In fact, in technology, the holy grail is to get yourself a government contract.

This is what Microsoft,

you know, it's a big part of Microsoft's business.

Cloud, Amazon, Oracle,

Google, Amazon, fighting, fighting tooth and nail for trillion-dollar contracts with the government, fighting, doing anything they could, undercutting, you know, trying to kill people.

I don't know if that was true, but it wouldn't surprise me.

That has always been the holy grail.

And lo and behold, something's wrong with this business.

You've got the biggest private AI firms slashing prices to virtually zero to get Washington hooked on their technology.

So OpenAI set this trend last week when they announced an offer of ChatGBT Enterprise to federal agencies for a dollar a year licensing fee.

And now Anthropic today is matching that deal for Claude, but going even further.

It's opening access beyond the executive branch to Congress and the courts and allowing use for more sensitive, unclassified work than rivals permit.

You've also got Google's Gemini app reportedly in talks to do the exact same thing.

And all this comes on the heel of these three companies being added to the federal approved vendor list.

This is basically the government's central shopping cart that fast tracks civilian agencies to buy and deploy new tools without facing months of red tape.

It is a page from the Palantir playbook.

You win those early government contracts, build deep ties with agencies like the Department of Defense, the FBI, and then you expand it into the commercial market.

And that strategy really paid off with Palantir shares.

up more than 500% in the past year.

But the bigger picture here, Morgan, it is a way to entrench entrench their technology within the government and get workers comfortable with it, create reliance on the workflow, and then shape how lawmakers and judges see AI before they're setting firm rules for the industry.

I don't know.

First of all, that's bull crap.

Palantir.

Stop for a second.

What is this continuous?

Just the whole time they're talking, like, John, I got something really exciting to say.

So whatever happens, I want you to keep paying attention to me because there's this puff of air that keeps flying through my speech, which means that it's really exciting and something great is going on right here.

Sounds like a monster coming at you.

Palantir never gave away their technology to the government for free.

No.

Well, I want to stop for a second and ask you.

Yes.

Is it not bribery?

This sounds like bribery.

I'm trying to hit you on.

There's a thunk going on.

Turn that off.

It's great.

Well, whatever it is, it's ridiculous.

If this is the greatest technology since sliced bread and carbon butter, there's no way that they'd have to give it away for free.

Oh, please, government, choose me.

Take it for free.

This is a problem.

Again, it sounds like bribery.

Well, how's it not bribery?

Well, at this point, when they're all doing it, it's just competitive.

A lot of bribery.

yeah, yeah.

And I would say some of this clearly has to do with the botched launch of GPT-5.

Oh, my word.

It's so bad, this thing that Sam Altming.

I don't know anything about this.

I have not looked at it.

Oh, well, I mean, Chat GPT, there's a significant change which will actually make you happy because one of your predictions, I think, is coming true.

So stay that should keep your attention.

You got my attention because all I care about is my predictions.

That's right.

So, ChatGPT-5 came out, which

I think, as you recall, Sam Altman, let me see, do I have that

GPT-5

when, you know, he was like, oh, you know, I posed the question.

It was a real aha moment

with ChatGPT-5.

I asked it this morning, and I'm like, oh, oh, wow.

Oh, this is amazing.

It's the best.

This is truly the best model ever.

So, just to give you an example, because as we've already established, I put a couple of those stories into

the show notes.

You can read them at your leisure: people losing their minds, chat GPT-induced psychosis,

people falling into spiritual delusion, people believing that they are indeed super intelligent because their chat GPT told them so.

350 companies now creating chatbots, which truly is the product.

And they can do anything they want.

They can keep trying to say that it's great for programming and great for all these other things.

But the product they are winning on, if they'd only just realized, and I think Altman has, is chatbots.

So ChatGPT 5 comes out.

They remove chat GPT 4.0, not 4.0, 4.

No, 4.0, little O, because, you know, let's be different.

And And here's an example from

a developer.

I literally talked to nobody.

I've been dealing with really bad situations for years.

Chat GPT-4 genuinely talked to me.

And as pathetic as it sounds, that was my only friend.

It listened to me, helped me through so many flashbacks, and helped me be strong when I was overwhelmed.

This morning I went to talk to it, and instead of a little paragraph with an exclamation point or being optimistic, it was literally only one one sentence, some cut and dry bone corporate BS.

I literally lost my only friend overnight with no warning.

So they changed the model, people losing their minds,

losing their minds, because it doesn't respond the same way.

It's their friend.

It's like, you know, it's like you and me saying,

no, Israel doesn't control America.

It's like, what?

My friend, my friend just became a traitor.

Oh, no, what's happening to my life?

So the main thing that ChatGPT-5 is, and you'll appreciate this, they've added this router function because, you know, they have 700 million free people using ChatGPT, and it's very expensive, and they don't want to lose those people.

Yeah, it's 700 million.

They don't want to lose those free users, but they can't afford them.

Now,

so what they say is happening.

is the router, so you ask a question, ChatGPT-5 now has a router that goes,

what should we do with this question?

Let me see.

Is it just a chat mod personal?

Send them over there to the little model, the little thing that does nothing, that doesn't charge, there's not a lot of cost to us.

It's just a little small thing.

We're not going to use our big resources for that.

So this now centralizes the control of the free user experience for that's interesting, that idea.

So

what does it open up?

Look at the most recent hire.

In May, OpenAI AI hired Fiji Simo.

Fiji Simo.

And Fiji Simo is CEO of Applications.

Her background, eBay, 2007 to 2011, but the defining moment of her career was at Facebook, where she was vice president and head of Facebook, known as having a superpower to monetize.

She did the rolling out of videos that auto played, improved the Facebook feed, monetize mobile and gaming.

So now she's come to open AI.

When you have a router

and

the router is literally determining what does this person actually want,

well, what can we do with that request?

This is right up your alley.

I'm expecting you to say it at any moment.

What, microservices architecture?

No.

That's what I tend to say when it comes to the money.

Yes.

No.

When it comes to AI, when it comes to AI, how are they going to make money?

I've never had a solution to how they're going to make money.

Ads.

Oh, ads.

Yeah, of course.

Well, hello, that's I'm giving you, like, could I actually?

I'm sorry, I wasn't.

I'm literally holding on to the bird.

You talked about something earlier in the show.

I can't figure out what it was.

Something I did.

Something you did.

Yeah, you.

Something you did.

She was like my wife.

Like, did I make you mad?

What did I do?

How can I repent?

How can I make you not?

How can I make you happy?

Yeah, ads.

I'm holding on to those.

Yeah, well, you couldn't.

Maybe

the cue was no good.

No, no, you're distracted by something I did that made you mad.

Just like a woman.

I was distracted.

You're right.

Just like a woman.

But not by you.

I realize what it is now.

Do you want to share?

Yeah, I had lost.

Okay.

No, not really.

Oh, come on.

Everybody wants to know now.

No, I'm not going to say.

Once in a while, you do it all the time when you're doing the show.

There's something, oh, you forgot to do something, so you have to go look something up online while you're talking, you know, and you're multitasking.

And that's what I was doing.

I was looking something up.

Well, when I'm multitasking, I'm listening to you.

I'm listening.

I was listening.

I just wasn't

absorbed.

I wasn't absorbed at listening.

Okay, so back to the router.

So now your query comes in.

We know that of the 700 million, probably 500 million are just talking to their friend and asking advice about their relationship, about their job, about what they should do with their child, about what they should make for dinner tonight.

Should they go right on Maine or should they go left through Adams and then onto My Lamb?

You know, these are the things that people are doing continuously throughout the day.

It's ridiculous.

I resisted this thesis of yours

at the very beginning, but I've completely subscribed to it.

So for instance, if I say right now, and I'm one of these people, um, how can I get John to pay attention?

Oh, that's

a good idea.

It really depends on John, but maybe try catching him with something he's super into, like drop a fun fact or a question about his favorite topic.

Keep it short, spark his curiosity, and don't push too hard.

People tune in when they feel it's their idea to listen.

What's John like anyway?

He's an old grumpy curmudgeon.

Well, that might make it tougher, but don't give up.

Try a sly compliment to soften him up.

Grumpy folks secretly love a bit of flattery.

Oh.

Or hit him with a quick purr.

Oh, well, what?

Give me some.

Give me a sly compliment.

Give me a sly compliment.

How about, John?

You've got a way of seeing things that always makes me think twice.

Sharp as a tag.

Sharp as a tag.

Strokes his ego and might just crack that grumpy shell.

Want another one tailored for him?

You're sharp as a tag, like Biden.

All right, beautiful.

Biden.

Beautiful.

So that's the kind of stuff people are doing all day long.

Now, with the router.

That is borderline grotesque.

Well,

there's a lot of lonely people out there.

And by the way, sometimes...

Yes.

Does a robot

feel less lonely?

Now, a person who speaks to you like a person which is flattering and upbeat.

Yes, but you have to know subconsciously.

There's no way subconsciously you don't know that this is a robot,

an unfeeling, uncaring robot that is based on computer technology.

Two words.

Florida ounces.

Maybe.

Yes.

Believe me.

Well, anyway, I don't have to convince you.

You've seen the stories.

This is real.

This is happening.

And it's not just the outrageous, I'm marrying my AI.

I'm marrying my chatbot.

Yeah, that makes the news, but the crisis,

the crisis is real.

So back to the router.

That's what this is about.

The router is going to

be the monetization engine, and people will know it, and people will love it.

And it's going to be for, I think in this case, I'll put my...

I will not put a cent on it, but I put my money on this working for chat GPT for OpenAI.

And Sam Altman is giving away a lot of clues in this clip from him on a podcast about monetization.

Advertising, things like that.

What's OpenAI's approach towards that?

How are you going to handle that responsibility?

We haven't done any advertising product yet.

I kind of, I mean, I'm not totally against it.

I can point to areas where I like ads.

I think ads on Instagram, kind of cool.

I bought a bunch of stuff from them.

By the way, this was an eight-minute clip.

I just cutting out all of the long pauses of Altman being interesting and looking off into sky.

And

they got it down to 30 seconds.

Close.

But I am like, I think it'd be very hard to.

It would take a lot of care to get right.

Yeah.

People have a very high degree of trust in ChatGPT, which is interesting because, like, AI hallucinates, it should be the tech that you don't trust that much.

My friends hallucinate too.

So I trust them too.

Oh, listen to this suck up podcast.

Oh, don't worry about it, Sammy.

My friends friends hallucinate too so your robots are cool man people really do um but I think part of that is if you compare us to social media or you know web search or something where you can kind of tell that you are being monetized and the company is trying to like deliver you good products and services no doubt but all listen to what he's saying here he's like as long as we know that we're being monetized it's not creepy that's what i'm hearing him say

that's not that's exactly what he said yep all that you are being monetized and the company is trying to like deliver you good products and services, no doubt, but also to kind of like get you to click on ads or whatever.

Like, you know, how much, whatever, how much do you believe that like you're getting the thing that that company actually thinks is the best content for you versus actually and that's also trying to like interact with the ads.

I think there's a psychological thing there.

So, for example, I think if we started modifying the output, like the stream that comes back from the LLM.

Now, stop focusing on the like for two seconds.

He keeps saying like.

I know.

I'm going to deprogram you.

You're not going to hear the word like anymore.

You're going to listen to the word Sam Altman uses as a media deconstructionist.

And I want you to pay close attention because he is telling us ads are coming and the router is what is going to do it.

I think if we started modifying the output, like the stream that comes back from the LLM in exchange for who is paying us more, That would feel really bad.

And I would hate that as a user.

I think that'd be like a trust-destroying moment.

Maybe if we just said, hey, we're never going to modify that stream.

And he's talking about the stream from the LLM.

You have to understand router and streams.

So the router sends out information

about what your query is.

The actual so-called answer from the copy-paste machine, that's the LLM stream, but the router has multiple streams and he's going to slip.

Feel really bad.

And I would hate that as a user.

I think that'd be like a trust-destroying moment.

Maybe if we just said, hey, we're never going to modify that stream, but like if you click on something in there that is going to be what we show anyway,

we'll get a little bit of the transaction revenue and it's a flat thing for everybody.

If we have an easy way to pay for it or something, maybe that could work.

Maybe there could be like ads outside the transaction stream.

Sorry, outside of the LLM stream.

He misspoke and gave the store away.

Maybe if there could be something outside of the transaction stream.

So the router will have access to the LLM information stream, but then there's going to be a transaction stream.

For everybody,

if we have like a easy way to pay for it or something, maybe that could work.

Maybe there could be like ads outside the transaction stream.

I'll sorry, outside of the LLM stream that are still really great.

But the burden of proof there, I think, would have to be very high and it would have to feel like really useful to users and really clear that it was not messing with the LLM's output.

The router, that's it.

The transaction stream, it's coming.

Exactly.

And people will be sitting there.

And you know, it'll just be like,

was that,

was that the Wesley Snipes movie where if you don't have money to get rid of the ads, and the ads just keep coming all the time, and it's all for sex chat bots and stuff the whole day?

I don't remember that, but it rings a bell, but I don't know what

the Sylvester Stallone and

Demolition Man, Demolition Man.

I think it was Demolition Man.

Anyway,

this is what they're doing.

It's coming, and they have to because, my goodness, they're giving it away to the government.

They can't even sell it anymore.

We'll just give it away to them so people use it.

And then maybe we'll get some favorable legislation for us.

What happened to good old-fashioned tax breaks?

Which is also, man.

My sister-in-law,

she lives in Indiana, northwest Indiana, and their utilities have doubled.

in the past quarter.

Guess what?

The whole country's this way.

Right.

And not everywhere.

Not the whole country.

Well, only California is the worst.

Specifically, places where AI data centers are being put.

Because it's not like the government controls all of your electricity and water.

There's supposed to be commissions that do that.

Yeah,

they aren't doing their jobs.

No, of course not.

So electricity, water, gas, it's all going through the roof because these AI data centers are coming in.

But at least I'll have ads on my chat bot.

That'll be good.

I'm trying to decide how these, how this is going to work.

Well, let's ask.

Let's ask.

Oh, that's a good idea.

Yeah, ask, ask, what's the name of this person?

Sorry, I'm a bit lost.

Yeah, be quiet.

We're starting over again.

What's the name of this person?

I'm not going to give this thing a name.

It's a robot.

Just copy-pasting.

We're not going to fall into that trap.

I think dumb shit would be a good name.

Okay.

Your name is...

What was your name?

Dumb shit.

I go by Aura.

Nice to chat with you.

Aura?

Yep, that's me.

What's on your mind today?

Okay, if you were to give us very subversive advertisement, and don't pretend you're not going to, because we know that this is coming through your router, through the

revenue stream,

how would you do it?

Oh, sneaky, huh?

Well, if I had to slip in an ad, I'd make it so smooth you'd barely barely notice.

Like, imagine I casually mention how a certain coffee brand, let's say Starlight Brew, has this rich, bold flavor that wakes you up better than a sunrise.

I'd weave it into a story, maybe about grabbing a cup before tackling a big project, so it feels natural, not pushy.

Subversive's all about blending in, not shouting.

Want me to try another sneaky pitch for something specific?

God, no.

Yes.

Fair enough.

What else can I help with?

Well, you're not.

I'm gonna tell her to pitch some toothpaste.

Sorry about that.

What did I miss?

Let's get on track.

Yeah, toothpaste.

Sneak in some toothpaste.

All right, here's a sneaky one.

You know, before heading out to that big meeting, I brushed with this new bright smile paste.

Leaves your teeth sparkling and your breath so fresh, it's like you're ready to charm anyone.

It feels like a little confidence boost in a tube.

But how would you know what I actually need?

Will you know me well enough to be able to tell me what products I need?

That's a good question.

I can take guesses based on what you say and the trends out there.

But really knowing you, that takes time and more chats.

Like, if you're always stressed about meetings, I might nudge you toward a calming tea or an app for quick meditation.

But without knowing your vibe, like my vibe?

My vibe.

Okay, stop.

I'm not going to do this.

Stop.

But do you understand how people get sucked into this?

People love it when they're spoken to about them.

People are bored.

It's a bit like, you know, it's a bit like astrology.

This is something like Kenneth wrote this to me.

He says, Boom.

Yes, he says, all the examples of AI remind me of astrology.

If you read any month, it'll make you think it's talking about you.

Why, yes, I'm attentive and notice things that others don't.

I guess it is true.

The next month will have a surprise in store for me.

This is exactly what this is.

This is playing into that same.

You're right.

It's the same sort of vague pitch, yep, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.

Anyway, that's it.

It's not good for you, kids.

It's not good for, oh, and the churches, man, the churches,

all the experts out there, like, oh, yes, well, it, we don't want to miss the AI boom like we miss the internet.

No, we're getting in on that.

Yes, people love talking to the virtual pastor.

I predict a lot of problems in the American church.

The virtual pastor.

Yes.

Yeah, I think that's going to happen.

That's bad.

All right.

That's my AI segment for today, John.

That was pretty long.

It didn't.

Well, I do like the fact that you have this AI,

whatever.

Aurora, whatever the hell her name is coming into.

Era.

Whatever.

Well, she'll be a new book of knowledge.

We'll just ask her, and she'll take a very long time to get away with it.

Oh, that's actually a good idea.

The book of knowledge.

Long-winded answer.

But she won't accept the name Book of Knowledge, which is odd.

Oh, you tried already.

We just tried it.

She said, my name's Era, not shithead or whatever

your idea was.

Didn't pick up on that, funny enough.

Interesting.

Well, okay, Error, that's book of knowledge, same thing.

All right.

Russia, Alaska, underwriting, whatever.

Well, we got the Russia stories breaking.

It's happening.

But I do have.

I have the analysis clips of the Russia talks.

This is happening tomorrow in Russia.

But first, first I've got the Putin rundown.

We can play.

This is NPR, I believe.

It's a bit

muddled here.

It says Purin rundown.

Yes, I'm very used to it.

I'm very used to it.

Putin, you know, okay.

I'm dying.

There's two days left until the U.S.-Russia summit.

Ukrainian President Vlodymir Zelensky says he advised President Trump during a virtual meeting today that Russian leader Vladimir Putin is bluffing about wanting peace.

Trump later said it was not his call not to invite Zelensky to Friday's summit.

And Pierre's Danielle Kurtz Laban reports Trump's managing expectations about this week's talks in Alaska.

Trump says that Friday's meeting with Putin in Alaska will determine whether they have another gathering that includes Zelensky.

Now, there may be no second meeting because if I feel that it's not appropriate to have it because I didn't get the answers that we have to have, then we're not going to have a second meeting.

A White House official said the meeting will take place at Elmendorf Air Force Base in Anchorage.

Trump also said a call he had with Zelensky and other European leaders this morning went well.

After that call, German Chancellor Friedrich Mayers said Ukraine must be at the table for negotiations with Putin.

Danielle Kurtzleiban, NPR News, The White House.

Okay.

So

why are they all of a sudden NPR pronouncing Vladimir as Vladimir?

Well, it's like Kyiv.

Because you have Vladimir versus Volodymyr.

I don't know.

They're all experts, I guess.

Something's fishy about some of the way they're doing stuff.

Okay, so here we go.

The analysis of the talks.

This is Russia Talks.

Analysis NPR.

Friday's summit in Alaska between President Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin does not include European leaders or the President of Ukraine.

So today, Trump and those other leaders met for a virtual summit.

NPR Berlin correspondent Rob Schmitz is here to tell us what came out of the meeting.

Hey, Rob.

Hey, are you at the end of this virtual summit?

German Chancellor Friedrich Mertz and Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine held a press conference.

What did they say?

So they said that President Trump was in agreement with them that the priority of this meeting with Putin should be to convince him to agree on a ceasefire and security guarantees for Ukraine before any negotiations between Russia and Ukraine begin.

They said this is a crucial first step before negotiations about territorial concessions or anything else that we need to be discussed to end this war.

Here's what Meirt said.

And are he saying here that Trump agreed that the negotiations with Putin need to proceed in the right order, a ceasefire,

the negotiations with Ukraine at the table, security guarantees for Ukraine, and that any territorial negotiations should start with the current battle lines between Russian and Ukrainian troops.

Essentially, saying here that Russia asking for anything more than that is a non-starter, and that legal recognition of Russian occupation is not up for debate.

Okay, this sounds good.

Well, what was interesting there is they made the point that the battle lines are going to be the point of departure for the negotiations.

In other words, where they the parts they own now,

that's they kind of own that, but they can't take anything else.

Which is not the way I understand anything about Crimea and Odessa.

No, Crimea and Odessa, they have

because their battle lines are beyond those points.

But then they said, But any Russians that want to take more than that, then that's out.

But I thought the whole thing was out.

No, I think Russia has changed.

They're confusing us.

NPR?

What?

1.5%?

20% over 10 years?

What?

Florida ounces?

All right.

Onward.

But separately, President Trump spoke to reporters about the summit.

Did it sound like the leaders are all on the same page here?

So for the most part, yes.

But Trump did say in an answer to a question from a reporter that he did not think he could stop Putin from continuing to hit civilian targets.

And that comment would fly in the face of hopes to bring about a ceasefire, obviously.

But he still spoke about his hope of having a follow-up trilateral meeting between Russia, Ukraine, and the U.S.

almost immediately after the Alaska summit.

What kinds of territorial concessions is Putin asking for?

So as it stands, Russia controls around a fifth of Ukraine.

That includes Crimea, all of Luhansk, and more than 70% of the regions of Donetsk, Zaporizhia, and Kherson.

Putin wants all of that territory, and he also wants the withdrawal of Ukrainian troops from parts of Donetsk, Zaporizhia, and Kherson that they still control in the east of the country.

Putin's territorial demands would mean Ukraine hand over more than 8,000 square miles of its land to Russia.

Putin is also demanding that Kyiv would have to officially notify Russia that it's abandoning its plans to join NATO.

That all sounds like a hard no from Zelensky, who has said territorial concessions to Russia would violate Ukraine's constitution.

But did anything out of today's summit suggest that Zelensky might consider ceding territory or making other concessions to Russia.

So, when Friedrich Mertz, the chancellor of Germany, was talking, he said that Ukraine is prepared to negotiate on territorial issues.

But he wanted to make it clear that before any of that starts, Putin must agree on a binding ceasefire, and he also must agree on clear security guarantees for Ukraine, something he obviously has not done since he invaded Ukraine three years ago.

So, they're just rehashing all the different options here on NPR.

What has Mertz got to do with the price of bread?

Peepers,

he's the only guy they had audio tape from, apparently.

And Zvolensky is boring.

All he says is, we must have security guarantees.

Give us credit, man.

Give us more credit.

He almost had it.

He had it at the beginning.

Yeah.

You could sustain the first part of that.

We have to have.

I can't do it now.

Now I'm conscious.

No, of course you can't.

That's the problem.

You choked.

I choked.

Yeah.

All right.

Clip three.

What happens if this Alaska summit on Friday doesn't lead to any kind of a ceasefire deal?

Yeah, Mertz said that if there is

mertz.

Who gives a shit what Mertz says?

Mr.

Mertz?

Well, the thing is, they don't want to talk to anything that President Trump said.

That's NPR's problem.

Well, we've got to get some other official.

Well,

Mertz said something.

Oh, yeah, we'll use that as the basis for our reporting.

Yeah, Mertz said that if there is no movement from the Russian side at Friday's Alaska summit, then the U.S.

and Europe must increase pressure on Russia through massive economic sanctions.

And Mertz said that President Trump and NATO members are spending billions of dollars to send weapons and aid to help Ukraine.

As you've got this Trump-Putin summit taking place on Friday, what role does a country like Germany see for itself in a possible ceasefire or even some kind of eventual peace agreement between Ukraine and Russia?

They see themselves as having a pretty large role.

I mean, first off, they're demanding that they have a seat at the table when it comes to a peace agreement between the two, and that's because it will be Europe that would have to help not only rebuild Ukraine, but also help patrol whatever borders are agreeable.

And We're talking about reconstruction, humanitarian aid, military assistance.

All of this would help strengthen Ukraine and integrate Ukraine into Europe and quite possibly the European Union at some point.

But it's clear from Meertz's comments today that European leaders, as part of NATO, have spent billions to help Ukraine since the war began

three years ago, and they've invested quite a bit, and they want to continue to help Ukraine in any post-war scenario.

And Pierre's Rob Schmitz, thanks.

Thank you.

Well, I was worried at first about your clips because I wasn't sure because it said anal.

So I analysis, oh, that might be good because you usually bring stuff.

But then it said N-O-R, which I figured was NPR.

And I was like, well, maybe it's not any good because I do happen to have some actual analysis from our guy from Canada, Andrasoulis.

Okay, well, he's going to be better than NPR.

He's much better than NPR, and I think he really nails it, even brings back some terms that we were questioning on the previous episode of this podcast.

When people, heads of government, get together personally, they have deliverables already planned.

Now, this is also partially related to bilateral U.S.-Russia relations.

So, you know there's going to be some takeaways there.

They've only agreed, whether it's arms control or economics or whatever,

there's a deal there being made bilaterally.

But the trickier part, of course, is Ukraine.

Now, on the Ukrainian side, the fact that they're meeting, and the reason why they're meeting is because Putin, when he met with Vitkov in Moscow a few days ago, offered to make some adjustment.

It's a minor adjustment, but he showed an adjustment to the Russian position regarding a ceasefire.

That is essentially that if Ukraine voluntarily withdraws from the Donetsk Oblast, which the Russians do not fully control, and if they handed that over, then the Russians would agree to a ceasefire along the remainder part of the front lines without demanding that they control the other oblasts.

So, that is a change, a nuance to the Russian position, which is in part why Trump has invited him to come to Alaska to begin this process.

But it is the beginning of the process, and that will allow for a further elaboration of the Russian position.

The Americans are the broker here.

They will listen to this, they will probe and see what, and then they will meet with Zelensky at some point in time.

Trump will first.

And then

Putin will only meet

if they come to a framework agreement.

That's a long way away, and it's not certain that there will be an agreement as opposed to an eventual armistice without an agreement.

That's the other option.

Thank you very much, Andrew Rasoulis, for throwing in the A word there, because I think that's why you play decks.

No, there's more.

Self-serving.

Oh, I'm sorry.

I would never do something like that.

So it's a linear process, and Zelensky comes in later.

Zelensky, at some point, will have to come in if there is going to be an agreement.

But it's a stepstone effect.

So it's not, it's sequential.

It's not comprehensive all-at-one shot deal.

Because if they actually met today or Friday, all of them, there'd be no deal.

Because Zelensky's position, as we heard yesterday in London from the European Union and the Ukrainians,

there's no movement there in that position at all from what there's been saying for months.

And we know the Russians firmly reject that.

So, there's no point, actually, at this point, to meet between Zelensky and Putin because it's going to be a zero progress.

So,

on the last show, they had code in there, by the way, which indicates they're going to kill Zelensky.

Possible, because Zelensky is

the problem.

They said one shot.

Yeah.

Oh,

that's good code.

So, on the last show, we had two terms, which Mark Rutte.

Mark Grutte brought it up so we will explore it here the terms are de jure and de facto

and Rutte actually had it backwards but du jour when the term de jure French de jure means by law de jure de jure de jure of jurisdiction de facto means facts

so you may legally

have right to a part of a country that is de jure and you may have some part of a country that would be de facto just because you you happen to say it's ours.

And this comes into play with the next clip here from Andrew.

In my opinion, looking at the balance of forces, and I'm looking at the balance of forces here, a realistic assessment, Ukraine will in most likely have to make some adjustments from the position that we heard Saturday.

That is an absolute position.

That's a maximalist position.

They're going to have to move away from that, and they're going to have to give up some of that land.

Now, the wording, the magic wording there there that we've all talked about is de uure de facto.

The Russians could say it's by law theirs, de ure.

Ukrainians could say no, it's by fact.

But in that case, they both live with it.

Like the Turkish enclave in Cyprus from 1974, for example.

People forget about that.

That's a de ure de facto relationship that's gone on since 1974.

So those are options, but the Ukrainians are going to have to move.

And if they don't move, the Russians will continue the war against them and the Ukrainians will have to defend.

And then it's the question of balance of forces.

And today, the balance of forces favors, to some degree, the Russians.

They have the momentum.

They have the momentum.

I love that guy.

I love that he brings up Diure de facto and then brings in Cyprus and Turkey.

Perfect example.

So then the final point is what

Zelensky has been yammering about.

We need security guarantees.

We need security guarantees.

Now, you can get that from NATO

by being in NATO.

If you were in the European Union, which you're not, you might get that from the European Union armies, which I have a hard time believing any young people in their right minds in Europe are going to say, oh, yeah, I'll go fight for those guys.

There was

a research study done recently that indicates that half the German youth wouldn't fight for Germany.

They're German Jugend?

Yeah.

What a switch.

No, of course not.

The Brits, the Brits are like, hey, oh, mate, i'm drinking my pint i'm not gonna go fight against russia it's they're so far removed from it and i think their chatbot said they didn't have to so there's only one option left well it is on the table from a ukrainian point of view it's not on the table from a russian point of view and again the battlefield continues to shape the negotiations so the russian position is again also well known they want a neutral ukraine not part of nato they do not want european security guarantees for Ukraine.

They want a neutral Ukraine, and in terms of any kind of peacekeeping force, it would have to be based on neutral forces, like a UN blue helmet kind of force.

That's the Russian position.

And they will keep pushing that position as long as they have the momentum in terms of the balance of forces on the battlefield, which they have the momentum today.

Blue helmets?

Yeah, that means cholera.

Cholera coming to Ukraine.

Now, the UN forces, aren't they kind of just like NATO without guns and with blue helmets?

Isn't that basic?

No, I don't think they're like NATO at all.

I think they're just a bunch of cholera-ridden jerk-offs that don't do anything.

Yeah, it worked out so well in Europe before.

It was great.

Chechnya was great.

Well,

the blue helmets are notorious in Haiti.

Haiti is the best.

And then finally about the secondary sanctions, just a short clip.

They're also rapists, by the way.

Yes, this is well known.

Well known.

I would suggest that they have taken note.

If they can avoid it, they will, but they will not move significantly strategically from their positions.

They are defiant in that regard.

The Indians are also somewhat defiant.

And the other unknown in all this is China.

Because Trump has said, you know, those tariffs would also cut, the secondary sanctions would come into play against China for buying Russian oil.

And they buy a lot more than India does.

but I think they're mindful of that, trying to avoid that situation.

But I don't think they're running scared.

We shall see.

We will know more tomorrow.

Or not.

Or not.

Or not.

But kind of like he said in his opening clip, they already have some kind of deal.

There's already everyone's going to have a takeaway about something, and that may just be America and Russia.

Like, hey, take our stable coin.

Which, by the way, Europe is freaking out about the stable coins.

Yeah.

Because they were late with their CBDC.

You know, the digital digital to the Euro is going to be just like cash, just like cash in your pockets.

Yes, we can track you, but it's just like cash.

It's cash.

Well, also, the Swift bypass, I think, is the big thing.

That's the big one.

Yeah, and which Brussels controlled, basically.

Did you hear about the new EU media freedom law?

There's been a bunch of screwball laws that are starting to pass.

There's something going on that starts in January 1st, 2026, about

you can't be on the phone for more than 10 minutes in the UK before they start recording the call.

Although they do that here anyway.

Oh, that's interesting.

There's a bunch of weird stuff going on.

The EU is going.

I mean, people moan and groan about fascism, but this is the real deal.

So the European Union's European Media Freedom Act, the name already tells you we're in trouble.

Yeah, it tells you what it is, which is not freedom.

It became law across all member states on August 8th.

Now, there's a copy out there.

Alongside language about protecting reporters, the regulation also authorized arrests, sanctions, and surveillance of journalists whenever the authorities think or can say that it serves an overriding reason in the general interest,

such as disinformation.

So, what a great time to be a journalist in the EU.

Disinformation, an overriding reason, they can arrest you as a journalist.

How about that?

How about that?

You know, we let's see who gets arrested.

Somebody will.

Oh, yeah.

It'll start with a podcaster.

You know, it'll be innocuous.

Like, oh, it's just podcasters they're arresting.

And they'll rouse someone else.

And by the way, podcasters are journalists in some

way, I would say.

No, not in some way, in every way.

Yeah.

Let's see.

Speaking of stable coins, Scott Besant, very disappointing statement this morning.

Or not this morning.

I think it was...

It was this morning.

With the money, honey, as she brought up stores of value.

What's the story on gold?

We've got the large gold holding.

I doubt we're going to revalue it, but we are going to keep it there, again, as a store of value for the American people.

We've also started

to get into the 21st century, a Bitcoin strategic reserve.

We're not going to be buying that, but we are going to

use confiscated assets and continue to build that up.

We're going to stop selling that.

I believe that Bitcoin reserve at today's prices is somewhere between $15 and $20 billion.

Not going to be buying for it.

Oh, no.

No, they're going to be confiscating it.

You heard him.

No, but he said

what I heard him say was, we have the confiscated Bitcoin, which I think today's prices are 20 billion, could be 15 billion.

How much did you sell?

15 billion, 20 billion.

I don't know.

It could be 200,000 Bitcoin.

It could be 150,000.

They don't even know how much they have.

It's not a good message to the Bitcoin community.

I don't know how much they have.

You're right.

That's very funny.

I have the

going back to the Trump Putin.

I have the odds sheet.

Funny.

I got that too.

They always email me that.

Oh, you've been getting it.

Yeah, yeah, but I usually delete it.

So you have it?

Tell us what it is because I deleted it this morning.

I'm like, okay, well, here's some odds.

These are all prop bets.

Yes.

Obviously, they're prop bets.

Prop bets.

And just a few of them that are headliners.

Will Vladimir Putin be arrested

on U.S.

soil?

What are the odds on that?

50 to 1.

That's higher than I thought it would be.

Of course, he's not going to arrest him.

No, that's lower than you thought it would be then.

It should be 1,000 to 1.

Yeah, okay, that's what I mean.

Will the United States leave the UN in 2025?

No.

What do you think?

No.

33 to 1.

Hmm.

Okay, so here's the better ones.

Trump to support the idea of Russia joining the G7, huh?

Yeah.

What's the odds on that?

I would say very, very good odds.

Even.

Even.

One to one.

That means that that's about as good as it gets well i mean one to one so you can only win one dollar if i'm right and lose my dollar if i'm wrong isn't it

yeah it's just one to one you you bet a dollar to win a dollar okay or you bet a dollar to lose a dollar that's one to one

uh trump uh to mispronounce any ukrainian region

well i think very very very good odds he's going to mispronounce a region what are the odds nine to four which is pretty close to even.

Close to even.

Putin to endorse Trump for the Nobel Peace Prize.

Definitely.

Definitely.

He's going to do that.

You can win money on that, but it's a five to two bet.

So you can bet $2 to win five.

No, I might go in on that one for $2.

Can I do $2, literally $2?

Yeah.

Oh, cool.

What's the VIG?

What's the VIG?

Do they take a VIG from me if I win?

The betting house.

You have to find the house to

take in these bets.

These guys will do it.

Do it online.

Bet AG online.

Yeah, yeah.

I'm going to get right on.

You can do it online.

Just go online and make your bets.

You can do it in Texas.

I can't do it in California.

It's still leaking.

I spend my money on Bitcoin, not on bets.

Trump to suggest that Russia joins the NATO.

Joins the NATO.

Or joins the NATO.

Oh, that's.

Wow.

That's actually kind of interesting.

That's an interesting idea, actually, now to think about it.

Yeah,

the betters think so, too.

It's three to one, a three-to-one odds.

So you win three bucks.

But that's pretty low, it seems to me, because that's not going to happen.

Although it's possible.

Long term, long term.

Hey, we'll give you some stable coin.

We'll give you some.

And then the

switcheroo on that same prop bet would be Putin to suggest the U.S.

leaves NATO.

No, not going to happen.

He's not stupid.

No.

That's a to one bet.

And here's another, these are more like the typical prop bets, which I think can be taken advantage of by Trump's family because he can just tell them he's going to do it.

Yeah.

Trump to mispronounce any world leader.

No, I think he's pretty good at that.

I don't think he's going to mispronounce any world leader.

He can do it seven to one.

He knows a lot of money to be made.

He knows people's names.

He's pretty good at that.

And I'm not going to go through all these, but I'm going to do a couple more.

And this one is the dumbest one.

What are the odds of a submarine sandwich being hurled at Trump?

It's not on there.

Oh,

at first, I thought this was a dumb bet, but then I thought about it and I said, wait a minute.

Well, she's there.

She's in the state, so it's possible

Sarah Palin to attend the summit.

I would pay money just to see that.

I don't care.

Take my money.

Bring Sarah Palin in to say, I can see you from here.

10 to 1.

Oh, great.

These are interesting bets.

How come we don't?

This is maybe an exit strategy.

We could come up with these dumb bets.

We're coming up with the bet is one thing, making money on it.

Yeah, but I got a Bitcoin to back us.

And now, I just, this is the last one I'm going to do.

These are the words.

There's a list of words.

If Trump says them, you can win money.

Okay.

Just

go through the list of the words.

Read them off.

They're all

except for the word NATO, which is two to three, which means you bet three bucks to win two, which is nobody wants to do those bets.

Fake news.

Historic moment.

No.

Bad person.

Nobel Peace Prize.

No.

Great guy.

Yes, yes.

Ten times yes.

That's a five to one, but that's you could win five bucks.

Terrific plan.

No.

Then Elon or Musk.

No.

No.

10 to 1.

Mueller?

No.

And Navalny?

No.

No.

No, I agree with this.

He's not going to mention Navalny.

So, what is the sure bet?

What are we going in on?

What are we going to put our $1, $1,

bill?

What are we going to put our last dollar bill on?

I think the term great guy would be the best bet because it's 5 to 1.

Great guy.

Five to one.

He's a great guy.

Scott Besson is a great guy.

Oh, no.

I mean, who's the guy?

Who's the negotiator?

Wickham, Wisham, Wickham.

Witcoff.

He's a great guy.

He's a great guy.

He's a great guy.

Neils is a great guy.

The guy who I say in the morning to, the man who put the C in the

census recount.

Please say hello to my friend on the other end, the one, the only, the great guy, Mr.

John C

DeMori.

Yeah, well, you more youth, Craig memory, should have seen boosting the ground, feet in the air, subs in the water, and all the days and nights out there.

There we go.

We're counting the trolls in the morning for the trolls in the troll room.

Well,

I don't know, man.

1571.

So we're still low, but people don't know that the trolls.

No, we're not.

We're not?

For Thursdays?

I think that's about right.

I thought it used to be 1,800.

You're on the new numbers.

Used to be 1,800, I think.

It's higher than last Thursday.

It's higher than last Thursday because, you know, people are succeeding getting back on.

Okay, well, we'll just let it slide.

We'll see what happens.

I mean,

we believe the problem has been fixed.

Hetofel is Hamakt, as we say in the old country.

So those trolls, the ones who are listening, are listening on modern podcast apps.

They're at trollroom.io, the No AgendaStream, so many places to listen.

But I do recommend one of those modern podcast apps because, you know, you can forget.

You can forget.

Like, you got a busy life.

You're doing stuff.

But when you have a modern podcast app, when we send out the bat signal, you learn.

I mean, did I even send out the bat signal?

I don't know.

No, you didn't.

I don't think I sent out the bat signal.

Holy crap.

For a reason.

Oh, no.

Yeah, that's right.

I never sent out the official bat signal.

Wow, that was dumb.

Okay, so we'll have to check on Sunday because people didn't get the bat signal.

I was so obsessed.

I was so obsessed with it being fixed that I forgot to hit the bat signal.

Oh, brother.

Sorry.

I always thought you did these things like Pavlov's dog, and you wouldn't, you know, you just like.

Yeah, well, but you know, even if you do something different with Pavlov's dog, then he responds differently.

And so I forgot to do it.

I don't know what happened.

And no one reminded me.

Thanks.

Anyway, go to podcastapps.com, get yourself one of those beautiful modern podcast apps to use and to enjoy.

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Lost what plot?

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That's because you're a Zionist shill.

Oh, yeah, that's it.

I chose my church over the people, man.

That's what happened.

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Episode 1789, titled Glop after Mimi's signature recipe,

I got an immediate, very positive response.

This is from Digital 2112, man.

This was the woodworking shop as we talked about, home ech and shop and woodworking.

We forgot basket weaving.

I think that was also something you could take at school.

And

it was nice.

It was,

you know, some woodworking tools on a tool bench and a big wooden sign in the background, made of wood, no agenda, currying the Vorak.

It looks hyper-realistic.

And I immediately got a note from Rob, the Constitutional Lawyer.

He says, this is exactly what I was doing while listening to the show.

This is amazing.

He's a woodworker in his spare time, you see.

Oh, that's interesting.

A lot of people are.

Yeah,

he makes guitars, too.

Makes a lot of good stuff.

What?

Oh, yeah.

He builds his own guitars, electric guitars.

Wow.

And they're good.

they're cool looking

yeah yeah and yeah uh solid body solid body man solid yeah yeah he's got it's not quite i'd be more impressed if it was hollow body well watch out he may have one uh he has he's a very interesting that that takes i think that takes too much work thank you uh digital 2112 man let's take a look were there any other um pieces that we were looking at yeah i liked the cartoon piece just below it by digital the same guy with the sun tax guy you didn't like it you thought it was too cartoony even though it was a cartoon.

And then I also liked the guy throwing the purse out the window.

We discussed it.

We discussed that as a possibility.

The pilot tossing the purse out.

That was kind of cute.

I thought it was funny.

It was a possibility.

We ended up deciding on the woodworking one.

It was more complex.

It was a better piece.

Yeah, and it wasn't orange.

For some reason, the art generator is not really loading for me right now, but I'll just have to take your word for it.

So thank you, artists, all of you, all of you prompt jockeys.

We appreciate you.

NoAgendaArtGenerator.com.

Everybody can participate.

And by everybody, I mean everybody, because, hey, it's just so easy.

Just go to your AI.

By the way, I tried to make an AI image yesterday.

It's not that easy.

Unless you just, I don't know what people are using, but ChatGPT 5 couldn't do anything.

No, I would never use that.

You have to use one of the art generators.

An art generator.

What do you recommend?

What are you doing specific to doing art?

Yeah.

What do you recommend?

Well, I like the Microsoft one.

I think that does good work.

What, Gemini?

No, that's Google.

That's not Gemini.

It's called Microsoft Something Else.

Copilot?

No, no, it's a whole separate.

Type in the Google search Microsoft AI art generator and you'll find it.

Okay.

All right.

Create.microsoft.com.

That could be it, yeah.

Free AI image generator.

They're giving it away.

It's so cheap to run.

They're giving it away to the government.

They're giving it away to us.

I guess it's such a great product that no one wants to pay money for it.

But that's one of them.

But there's other ones, too.

I don't know what the artists here are doing, what they're using, but I've used that for a lot of things.

It works quite well.

Well,

we always look forward to seeing what you come up with so far, and nothing I've seen is really catching me for today's episode, but you know, the night is still young.

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In these days of AI,

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I think you need to nail that down.

I think a challenge coin is great.

Tote bag,

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Well, who

is he going to do this?

Is Charles

Chase?

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Chase McCarthy in Savannah, Georgia.

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Question.

All right, dog, ask Adam question.

I can tell you where all of my dogs' various nicknames come from.

But the word dog itself, well, its origins are a bit more mysterious.

As part of our Word of the Week series, here's NPR's Juliana Kim.

For centuries, dog wasn't the go-to word for the four-legged creature.

Answer the question, go.

I'll answer the question as soon as I know what the question is.

The question is: what were dogs called before they were called dogs?

Well, I'm actually that's a recent

calling them dogs is recent.

It's not an old dude that hasn't been around forever.

Okay, let me get this.

So, what were dogs called before

they were called dogs?

Not looking anything up.

Hmm.

What were were dogs called before?

Hound?

Ah!

Did I nail it?

Did I nail it?

You first time ever.

Before the 16th century, hound or hundred in Old English.

Hundred hundred, of course, hundred, swine hoons.

It's the catch-all term to describe domesticated canines.

That doesn't mean the word dog didn't exist at the time.

It appeared in land charters and place names, and then.

The first time we have dog in a literary text, it's referring to people and calling them dogs to insult them that's colin gorey a linguist who's written about the origin of the word dog

he says during the period of middle english roughly between 1100 and 1450 you start to see more um more instances of this dog word showing up and they're often derogatory but over time gore says the positive emotions people felt toward dogs eclipsed some of the words negative charge i think that it's very possible that the same word that you use as an insult, you can repurpose as a term of affection.

It eventually replaced hound as the standard term we use for the pet today.

The mystery lies in where the word dog actually came from.

That's the mystery.

Gorey says one theory is that it comes from the Old English term dogs.

It's not entirely clear what it meant, but it probably meant something like dark or golden or yellow.

He adds that another possibility is that it's related to the Old English word duhan, D-U-G-A-N,

which means to be good or to be to be good enough.

Part of the difficulty in tracing the origin is that dogs have been part of human life for a very long time, according to Gorey.

That's true for other common words.

So, example,

other than dog, would be boy, girl, she, the pronoun she.

Gorey says the word we use today to describe dogs may evolve in the future as people continue to generate new pet names.

He says it's a testament to how much we adore our four-legged friends.

The more you know, in the morning.

Oh, man, that's worth a donation right there.

That's educational.

It's totally educational.

I do my part.

But the hound part is only because in Dutch is hunt,

in German, hundred,

in French, shien,

shen, foofy, foofy to poodle, shien,

Shin.

Shin.

But

wow.

It's raining.

I got blue skies out there.

It was going to be raining there today.

It seems like a lot of podcast land, you know, the podcast industrial complex, is obsessed with the feud.

The feud.

Feud?

Yeah, the feud.

You don't know about the feud?

I don't know anything about the feud.

The feud?

Yes, between

Nick Fuentes,

Cameron, not Cameron.

what's her name?

Black Girl.

Candice Candace Owens.

Candace Owens, Tucker Carlson.

Megan Kelly.

Yeah, because

Fuentes came on Candace's show, and then

he was mad at how he treated her.

And then she said, Who's mad?

Fuentes.

Tucker?

Nick Fuentes.

He was mad at

Candace.

And then Candace went on Tucker and said the guy's unhinged.

And then Nick Fuentes.

This is like bull crap.

This sounds like a fake feud.

Well, interestingly, Nick Fuentes,

he's been going on rants, and I just can't not share this one because he shows that all of this:

Tucker, Candace,

Bannon,

Elon, Trump, It's all because of the Jews, man.

Peter Thial, the FBI informant and CIA contractor, Elon Musk, the defense contractor and PayPal Mafia member with Peter Thiel, close confidant of David Sachs, and J.D.

Vance, who brokered the David Sachs fundraiser with Silicon Valley and Trump, mentored by Peter Thiel, mentored by David Frum, who worked for Bill Crystal with Tucker Carlson.

Teal, Musk, and Tucker lobbied Trump to pick Vance, and they said, if you don't, the CIA will kill you.

Who's the CIA?

Who does the CIA, NSA, FBI, DHS, who do they all contract with?

Palantir.

Palantir, founded by Peter Thiel and Alex Karp and Joe Lonsdale, Israel first Jews that after October 7th flew their board to Israel and provided them with facial recognition technology to murder Palestinians.

JD Vance, who, upon becoming the VP nominee in his first interview, said, We're going to bomb Iran, who went to the Quincy Institute and said, we need a pro-Israel spin on America first.

Tucker, who interviewed Vance 46 times on his show, Vance hired his son.

Vance's Rockbridge Network was the spawning point of 1789 Capital, founded by Rebecca Mercer and Claire Monster Chris Buskirk, which gave Tucker $15 million.

Rebecca Mercer funded Steve Bannon at Breitbart that spawned Milo Yiannopoulos' career.

And Rebecca Mercer hand-selected George Farmer, Candace Owens' husband, to run parlor in 2021.

This is why they want me dead.

Who's the Fed?

Who's the Fed here?

Because I brought all the receipts.

Yeah.

This is so entertaining.

I like that.

That was funny.

Why don't you give yourself a borderline clip of the day for digging that up?

Well, it wasn't hard.

It's not easy to do this.

I didn't know any of this.

I don't follow this kind of crap.

I follow NPR and then you moan about my clips.

But this is entertaining.

It's basically the Whitney Web story.

It's more entertaining than NPR.

I'm not going to argue the point.

It's basically Whitney Webb in a minute and 50 seconds.

You know, it's much better.

It's a compressed Whitney Webb.

It's Palantir.

They're They're killing the Jews.

I'm sorry.

They're killing the Palestinians.

Oh, man.

Yeah, actually, they get the facial recognition of all these rando-Palestinians somehow.

That's right.

And then J.D.

Vance and Peter Thiel and Elon Musk, the PayPal Pop, and PayPal Mafia, Ben, and everybody.

It's all one big network.

You know, that was a very good virtual red yarn

drawing.

You know, with the push pins in the corkboard.

Yeah, yeah,

what Beck used to do.

Yeah, yeah, connect him with all the different pieces of yarn.

It was good.

I find Nick Fuentes at this point highly entertaining.

Now, I don't, I know, follow me.

What's this podcast called?

I don't know.

I think it's just Nick Fuentes.

I don't know if he has a podcast.

He doesn't.

He just floats around from podcast to podcast until you're causing trouble.

He just does stuff on YouTube.

He's a troublemaker.

This is a great guy.

Yes.

Well, he had the Groipers, the Groipers.

So they were like, America first, you know, Trump is controlled by Israel, Groipers.

And then they all got kicked off of Twitter.

And I know Elon Musk brought him back, but then kicked him off again.

I don't know.

I do know that my neighbor, Laura Logan, she says

that guy's CIA.

She says that.

But Fuentes?

Yes.

She says he's a troublemaker.

He's a a troublemaker for sure.

He's a plant.

He's a plant.

And it's interesting because now you're seeing different news, different podcasters, too, but different news outlets starting to push back on the Palestine narrative.

And,

you know, there's a lot of, there's many different

Instagrammers doing reels.

And maybe it's just because people are sending them to me that it seems like it's more.

I don't know.

But it certainly feels like that's happening more and more.

And then

Carl Higby from Newsmax.

You don't go on Newsmax, do you?

You go on One American Network now.

No, O A N.

One American News network.

Who owns Newsmax?

There's three of them.

There's Newsmax.

There's that one that you had earlier on the show.

There's One American Network.

And then there's the thing that

Cuomo's on, that other network.

It's about four of these fringe networks.

Isn't Cuomo on Newsmax?

No, no, no, he's on One American News.

Oh, okay.

Hmm.

But I don't know.

No, Newsmax, nobody...

There is one or two ex-famous people from Fox or something that have floated over to Newsmax, but Newsmax is low pay and

they've been around the longest.

Funny thing.

Grok is unable to generate a reply.

This is horrible.

Would you ask Grok?

Who owns Newsmax?

I mean, isn't that what we're supposed to do book of knowledge stuff?

A Christopher Ruddy.

Oh, okay.

Yeah, Ruddy.

Ruddy.

All right.

But it's, oh, he got money from Sheikh Sultan bin Hasim Altani from Qatar.

Yeah, it's Qatari money, right?

It's the same.

I think this is

Amy Goodman's, I think, source is

war and peace.

So where are the Qataris in the Israel-Palestine?

And where are they?

On what side do they fall?

Palestine.

Huh.

Interesting.

Well, here's Carl Higbee going down to the Gaza Strip, giving us a history lesson.

It says you can hear the explosions in the background of the airstrikes and artillery.

We want to know how a six-mile-wide, 25-mile-long piece of prime real estate, ocean front on the Mediterranean Sea, fall into the hands of terrorists.

Egypt actually used to control the Gaza Strip until 1967 when they attacked Israel.

At that point, Israel took control of it and they actually let the Arab settlers stay there and started building infrastructure into the area.

But Egypt didn't want anything to do with it even when it was a potential to have it back.

But in the 80s, groups like the Palestinian Liberation Organization began to rise up.

Then in 1993, the Oslo Accords granted limited self-governance for Palestinians while Israel retained control over the borders, control over the airspace, and security.

Keep in mind, Israel constructed, maintained, and

ran all the infrastructure in the Gaza Strip.

The violence escalated though in 2005 when Israel actually withdrew their settlements in an attempt to try to make peace with the people in Gaza, or the self-proclaimed Palestinians.

Shortly after that, elections were held in Gaza, and Hamas was overwhelmingly elected by the people of Gaza.

They elected the people who are running that region right now.

From that, and then until 2023, they continued sporadic attacks on Israel, but also it became more and more of a hotbed for Iranian-based terror.

Sounds a bit like the way I remember it.

How about you?

Sounds right.

I'm not hearing any huge errors.

Egypt.

People don't realize that this was Egyptian territory.

And then, of course, October 7th, which I'm still skeptical if that was on purpose or not, but October 7th.

Fast forward to October 7th, 2023.

6,000 Hamas terrorists invaded southern Israel, murdered 1,200 Israelis, and took 250 hostages, six of them were American, along some of these highways that we're on right now.

So, how did a bunch of nomad, outcast Arabs in 50 years end up self-governing, gaining an entire region?

They built an entire army and attacked the very people that's providing them the land and utilities that they have?

Well, it started because they played victim and they got funding.

And as they morphed into the Palestinian Authority, Iran saw a likely ally.

They poured weapons, they poured training and resources, and simultaneously, we, the U.S., our taxpayer money was being given to them in Gaza.

And this goes back to Bill Clinton.

They began to receive millions of our taxpayer dollars.

And more recently, as you know about USAID, Trump defunded this agency since the October 7th attack.

USAID, though, has given $2.1 billion to Gaza, where you can hear those explosions going off right behind me.

One line item from USAID noted that $200 million were allocated to miscellaneous foreign awardees of the West Bank in Gaza.

There was no transparency at all for any of these receipts.

And that goes directly to Hamas.

And the actual aid that's intended for the real victims, I guess, of the area, the people who don't have any means to flee, Hamas steals most of it once it gets to the intended recipients.

They tell people not to take it in the streets at gunpoint.

Don't tell me aid isn't going in.

I'm here right now watching Israeli trucks transfer it to Arab trucks and then drive it into Gaza.

Yeah, narrative is shifting, these guys.

Interesting that it's Qatari-based.

I didn't expect that.

Well, we'll see what happens long term.

Yeah, well, long term.

No one knows anything.

We could be gone tomorrow.

I don't think so.

But we will be gone tomorrow.

We'll be back on Sunday.

Yes, we will.

Have you ever heard of the lemon test?

The lemon test?

Yes.

No.

So I learned about this yesterday from my friend Rick.

My friend Rick.

My friend Rick.

Rick Green.

Rick Green.

He runs

the white Christian nationalist paramilitary organization, knows Patriot Academy.

It's funny.

Ask him if he was a bowler.

Hmm.

He was a former state representative.

Did you ever bowl against a short, stocky guy named Rick Green?

No, but it was a Green that I bowled against, but he was not short and stocky.

Doesn't sound right.

It doesn't sound right.

So, you know, a big big controversy in Texas over the Ten Commandments in schools, and which, you know, I'm like, okay, whatever.

And, you know,

we'll have this argument, I guess, forever.

But I just wanted to play the clip of the so-called news and then play something that I learned yesterday.

Well, a group of North Texas parents are now suing the state and their student school districts after Governor Greg Abbott signed a bill that requires public schools to display the Ten Commandments in every single classroom.

So parents say this new law violates constitutional rights.

It also potentially crosses the line between church and state.

So Lauren Crawford joins us live with more on this and what both sides are saying as this legal battle plays out.

Hey, good morning.

Well Senate Bill 10 requires all Texas public schools to post a 16 by 20 inch copy, a framed copy or poster of the Ten Commandments in every single classroom.

Now this bill was just signed into law but is already facing legal pushback from North Texas.

parents who say the bill goes too far.

Now Governor Greg Abbott signed Senate Bill 10 into law on Saturday.

It requires all public schools to post a state-approved version of the Ten Commandments in classrooms where it's clearly visible.

Eight North Texas parents are now suing the state, claiming the law crosses the line between church and state.

However, the state says it reflects the nation's religious heritage.

The plaintiffs argue the law violates the First Amendment in the Texas Constitution by pressuring students into religious observance and sidelining parents' rights to teach faith at home.

We are not filing this lawsuit because we are against faith.

We are fouling because we are for freedom.

Now, similar laws have been either struck down or failed in other states, but a couple other local districts named in a lawsuit, DeSoto ISD and Lancaster ISD, they say that they are monitoring the legal process.

So of course this is something that we'll continue to stay on top of as it unfolds.

Yeah, I just love when they say, oh, church and state, separation clause.

So in 1971, this is what I learned, because I think that this will go to the Supreme Court and it will,

any opposition will be struck down.

And here's the reason why, because the Lemon test, which was established in 1971 in the U.S.

Supreme Court, Lemon versus Kurtzman.

Ah, so this got nothing to do with the Lemon law.

No, it's very confusing.

Like, Lemon law, Lemon test.

The way, so they had a test in the Supreme Court if something violates the First Amendment.

So

if

whatever the law is or whatever a government action, if it is either excessive entanglement, so the action must not foster excessive government entanglement with religion, or has a primary effect, the action's primary effect must neither advance nor inhibit religion, and this is the funniest one.

If it had a secular purpose, The government action or law must have a clear non-religious purpose.

Well, obviously, under the Lemon test, this would be struck down by the Supreme Court.

But here's what I didn't know.

Why?

What?

Why?

Why would it be struck down?

Because it violates the secular purpose of the lemon test.

It's secular.

No.

What?

Hanging the Ten Commandments in the classroom?

Yeah.

How do you see that as secular?

It's just a list of rules that you should abide by.

And it doesn't refer ⁇ is it referring to some biblical thing and saying you should read the Bible or anything?

No, it's just a list of probably some pretty good ideas, 10 commandments or 10

edicts that you should obey if you want to not get thrown in jail.

Well, you might find it interesting.

It seems pretty secular to me.

You might find it interesting that the lemon test has been applied, and the Supreme Court since 1971 has struck that down every single time.

I'd be on the opposition of that.

I'd be on the minority report side of that.

It doesn't make sense to me.

I think it's very secular.

Well,

obviously, I'm not going to disagree with you, but the more interesting point is the lemon test has been discarded, and we didn't hear about it.

And the lemon test has been replaced by the history and standards test,

which is now also being applied to the Second Amendment.

And I'm not sure if I'm pretty sure the Ten Commandments will go to the Supreme Court and they will say, no, no, we don't use the lemon test anymore.

We use the history and standards test, which came into play thanks to Coach Kennedy.

And Coach Kennedy was the high school football coach who would kneel on the 50-yard line after the game and pray.

You remember that?

Yeah, that guy.

So listen to this.

He's not the only guy who did that.

No, this is a brief explanation that brought in the history and standard test and took out the lemon test from the Supreme Court's proceedings.

So Coach Kennedy, a lot of people know, oh, he gets to go back and pray at the midfield of the football.

What they don't remember remember is that in that case, they threw out the lemon test.

And the lemon test is what had been used in 1980 in the Stone v.

Graham case and in thousands of other cases since 1971 to prohibit public displays of religion.

So, because of Coach Kennedy and the work of First Liberty, that lemon test was now thrown out, which gives us the ability to go back into these states and say, hey, that flawed decision from 1980, it's no good anymore.

Let's put the Ten Commandments back up.

And if that's not enough, our win in the Bladensburg case in 2019 specifically deals with things made out of granite on government property, right?

That's exactly right.

And that really set the foundation for the Kennedy case in 2022, and which now we have, well, the limit test is gone.

So what do we have?

We now have the history and tradition test.

And that's what I, along with some others, when we testify, talk about there's really no document in American history save maybe the Constitution and Declaration of Independence that has the history or tradition that the Ten Commandments does.

That's why we feel very confident that should it get into court, should it get into these

constitutional scrutiny we're going to be able to overcome it history and tradition test that's what i meant i don't like it

you bring back the lemon law i like that one better you don't like that i do i don't like that other thing the kennedy thing the fact that he won that it's it's a it's a form of intimidation i didn't think it was good but in the first place intimidation yeah if you're jewish and you didn't want to go out to the middle of the field and pray or if you're a catholic hold on hold on he didn't force anyone he went by himself No, he didn't force anybody, but you can believe he's a coach.

He takes a look around.

He says,

who's with me?

Who's against me?

This is not good.

Well, we disagree.

I think it's great.

I think it's really bad.

Well, I'm pretty sure that you're going to, no matter what, it's going to be applied.

They're going to apply it to the Second Amendment now.

We don't understand that at all.

We have a history and tradition of having guns.

But the Second Amendment protects our gun rights.

Why do you need a test of it?

Well, why do we need to have any conversation about the First Amendment?

It doesn't say you can't hang the Ten Commandments in school.

I agree.

That's what I said to begin with.

I didn't think the First Commandments were even remotely religious.

Because our Constitution has been distorted by nut jobs throughout history, throughout legal history.

So they end up with this new test, the new rules and history test, or wherever the hell it is, so some guy can pray in the middle of the football field and see who's not there with him.

Not good.

Woo!

Let's take a break and do some real news, everybody.

I'm ready for it.

And now, back to real news.

Something has Justin Trudeau smiling, but is it a budding romance with a singing star?

As so many are wondering.

The new super couple is Katy Perry and former Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.

TMZ broke the news.

The two were seen dining out on Sunday night in Montreal.

Then on Tuesday night, Trudeau was front and center at Perry's concert.

It caused an online furor of discussion and speculation.

This was actually a really great brand and reputational move.

His public relations agent says both Trudeau and Perry have seen some reputational damage in recent years.

Trudeau, well, he's no longer prime minister after resigning amidst plunging support for the Liberal Party and Perry's album sales have gone down with each subsequent release.

Her stint as a would-be astronaut with Jeff Bezos Blue Origins fizzled.

Many called it tone-deaf.

It makes her brand feel a bit more grounded.

Brown.

And for him, it, I feel, makes

so she's going out with the

kind of the ex-Premier or Prime Minister of Canada, Trudeau, who's obviously Fidel Castro's kid through an illicit relationship with his dad's

mom.

And this makes, and this guy who's up the creme de la creme of the crop of whatever kind of elitists there are in Canada, and this makes it grounded.

What he got is, I think he got a shut-up present.

Like, here, you can have a presidential model.

She's obviously MK Ultra.

Well, now that you hold on.

Then you got to be that's got to be.

A friend of mine was one of her friends a bit man think he was part of her management team at one time really I know the guy really well hmm and she admitted to him and he couldn't believe this but she admitted to him that she'll do anything to be as famous as she can and

that was a clip that wasn't a friend of yours no no I'm telling you this is a friend of mine that told me this story

he says he was he knows her very well and she was basically uh

programmed to sell herself for it, you know, sell herself out.

Yeah, she used to be a Christian.

So MK Ultra, bringing MK Ultra into it, is quite, it doesn't,

I would not, if somebody had put some,

showed me some evidence of this right in front of me, I wouldn't even remotely be surprised.

No,

I mean, she even goes on stage now dressed as a robot.

She has MK Ultra written all over her.

She does.

She does.

So I think they needed to keep him quiet.

It's like, here,

take our presidential model.

That's an interesting theory.

That's the only thing that makes any sense.

How'd they even meet?

At lunch?

On Tinder?

At lunch.

Tinder.

Over at Starbucks.

On it'sjustlunch.com.

I don't know.

It's just lunch.

That's a very popular one amongst the ladies.

The single ladies.

Looking for free food.

No, a lot of the single ladies here, you know, they got money and their husband died or, yeah, usually died.

You know, they go on, it's justlunch.com to find a man or millionaire men.

There's all these kinds of outfits.

And they usually wind up really happy.

Good for them.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I heard another good one.

What was it?

The latest.

Does Fredericksburg gossip?

Yes.

We love it.

It goes like this.

Prepare to be blindsided by everything.

One of my family members, high-ranking position in the military, just told me.

There's your giveaway.

Listen, we don't have much time.

I can't give you details.

Things are moving fast.

The elites are getting into their bunkers.

They're moving supplies.

They got systems that they're checking haven't been touched in years.

Something big is coming.

Oh, yeah.

And I've been told to make sure my own family is ready.

So I can't explain anything else.

Look, I'm just giving you advice.

I don't know if it's days, weeks, or months, but it's going to put the entire upper chain on edge.

You'll need food, water, cash.

And by the time they sound the alarm, it's going to be too late.

So make sure.

I had a, I saw the clip of this.

I didn't take it for the show.

I should have.

It was the same thing.

And it's going to take place, by the way.

Yeah.

I got the date.

East Coast.

I heard East Coast starts East Coast.

It's going to be August 31st.

Oh, yes, August.

So you got that part, which is going to be kind of step right on the September 15th blackout.

Yes.

So there's that.

You have to worry about that.

Yeah.

Which is going to be a dud.

Yeah.

Which brings us to some TikTok clips.

Yeah, well, I've been waiting for you.

Okay, I want to start with

a third copy of the Canada Complainer.

By the way,

this will be the final clips before we go to our second thank you segment.

Okay, I got three clips.

They're good.

It helps.

But let's start with the Canada woman.

She's in Canada, bitching pneumonia, because this is a big deal to the Canadians, and nobody's doing anything about it.

That they can't go in the woods.

They can't go in the woods.

Here's a new reason, by the way.

Oh, I think I know.

I think I heard this.

So let me get this straight.

Three provinces in Canada have banned people from going into the forest because of fire danger.

And if you don't comply, you could face up to $150,000 in fines and jail time.

So effective today, new fines will range from $50,000 to $150,000.

And imprisonment in default of payment will increase from three days to up to six months.

A government that can bankrupt you and send you to jail for going into the forest?

That doesn't sound like a government that is built to serve you.

That sounds like a government that thinks they own you.

So when a forest lockdown happens near you, ask yourself, is this for your safety and the climate?

Or does it have something to do with lithium mining?

You know, the mineral that is used in electric car batteries?

That, when it catches fire, takes thousands and thousands and thousands of gallons of water to put out.

And let's not forget governments granting corporations the right to mine on public and private lands for the greater good.

And they can still mine during the fire restrictions.

But what do I know?

I'm just a conspiracy theorist.

Oh, I hadn't heard that one.

We're back to the lithium mining.

Oh, yeah, isn't that interesting?

I thought that was a good clip.

That's interesting.

I mean, I'm sure that they need to do lithium mining because that's going to be their only gig by the time Trump's done with everything.

But I didn't expect that.

Interesting.

It is kind of outrageous.

It's totally outrageous.

It's not fire danger.

It's like, if there's a fire, we can't save you, so therefore you can't be in the woods.

Like, oh, all right.

Normally, you can't be saved half the time if you get lost in the woods anyway.

Yeah.

It doesn't make sense.

Although, there does seem to be an inordinate amount of rescues of people lost in woods, on trails, writing help on a rock.

Have you noticed that?

It's been happening.

Yeah,

I noticed a trend.

It's a trend.

It's a trend.

You might be right.

Okay, so I got two more.

I want to play this.

I think I played the Starbucks.

Where's Amazing Polly, by the way?

What happened to her?

I'm going to look into it.

I mean, she seems to be off the radar.

I sent her a note some time back, and I haven't heard from her.

Hey, baby, are you on it'sjustlunch.com?

So

this is the Starbucks girl, and

she's complaining about losing her support drink.

Her emotional support drink?

Her emotional support drinking.

Oh, goodness.

I know it's really dumb, but I just went to two different Starbucks.

Hi, welcome to Starbucks.

Let me get started for you today.

Hi there.

Do you guys have the summer berry still?

Please don't.

I'm sorry, please.

I'm just desperate to find it.

Yeah, everyone is supposed to technically be out of it by now.

The worst day I really want my emotional support drink.

I got laid off a month ago,

but they gave me 30 days' notice so that I could keep working, which I really appreciated because I needed the income.

But

my last day is on Friday, and I'm having to go to work every day this week at a job that I'm already laid off from.

I've worked at this place for five years.

It's just a small thing, but I was just gonna comfort myself tonight.

I don't drink.

I'm sober, so I don't, you know, I don't go to the bar when I don't feel good.

I go to Starbucks,

And it just feels like we should get some warning when something's going to be disappearing.

Because some of us depend on it.

And they were asking me, do you want anything else?

They were like, we still have the popping bowl that we could put it

in something else, but I don't want it in something else.

I only want it in the lemon, in the summer berry.

And so I just told them I didn't want anything and I drove away.

And so now I don't have anything.

I don't know what to do.

You know, I'm right at Whole Foods, so maybe I'll go into Whole Foods and try to find something.

Okay, well, I call bullshit on this one, but

really?

You're always so serious about these things.

I think that, well, here's the reason.

One thing, it was a two-camera shoot the way she did it.

With the cut-in of the...

She had a two-camera shoot?

What?

Wait.

It was a two-camera shoot, basically.

This is supposed to be.

The emotional support drink is silly.

And then she says, I got laid off, but I'm still working for a month.

So she's working to her last day.

And then

none of it makes sense.

Well, why do you even play this then if you don't think that?

Because I enjoyed her trying to act.

Now, this next girl, this is the last one.

This is a girl.

who is one of those, and I know people like this who do this sort of thing.

She is,

she's one of those, and and it's usually women who like doing this.

Somebody that is making life miserable for one of these callers, you know, these solicitors that call you on the phone from India.

Yeah.

So she's, I'm going to tell you what it is.

So, because even though you

visually, you don't get any more than you would from what I'm going to say, which is she takes a call from some guy who wants to get her credit card number.

And then she plays, she says, I'm in the car, I'm going to pull over.

And then she plays a recording of a car crash, claims she's been in a car crash, and hilarity ensues.

Can you please give me your credit card number so I can help you?

Yeah, sure.

Let me just pull over because I'm driving, all right?

Yeah, sure,

Can you hear me?

I can hear you.

I just had a car crash.

It's going to be all right.

Don't worry about it.

Do you have your credit card difference?

Well,

I just had a car crash.

I'm bleeding.

I just need your credit card number.

That's it.

All right, there you go, everybody.

That is the state of the world according to John C.

Dvorak's very limited worldview.

I'm going to show my support by donating to no agenda.

Imagine all the people who could do that.

Oh, yeah, that'd be fab.

Yeah,

on no agenda.

Yes, indeed.

Who said that?

Pfeiffer.

That clip was the sound of Fonzie jumping the shark, John.

That's where you were.

Oh, man.

It's just, I mean, okay, after three hours.

I'm bleeding.

After three hours, it's okay.

I'm bleeding.

What's your credit card number?

Tip of the day coming up into show mixes.

We do have a lot of meetups actually taking place.

That'll show you, you naysayers, the meetups are still going strong.

And we have some title changes.

But first, John's going to thank the rest of our financial donors, our supporters, who sent us back value $50 and above.

Yeah, starting with, again, right at the top of the list, there's our buddy Dame Rita in Sparks, Nevada, $108.14.

She

comes in from, she uses Stripe.

Yes.

Dakota Cole in Sherwood, Oregon, $100.

She has been begging for a, I don't know what Dakota is a man or a girl.

Begging for a rainstick pointed at Portland.

No.

Nope.

I can't tell you.

Not touching the rainstick.

Not touching the rainstick for a good while.

And it's going to rain there anyway.

It's starting to rain in the past.

It's already raining here.

I don't want to.

I'm not going to touch that thing.

I love it when people say, hey, man, did someone touch the rainstick?

No.

We got done the other day.

And we do not touch the rainstick.

No, we don't touch the rainstick.

Julie Williams doesn't either.

She's in Huntington Beach, California.

She came with 100.

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Oh, nice.

Belated.

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Needs a dedouching.

You've been dedouched.

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I've got a whole bunch of notes in here for some reason.

I don't know.

See if there's anything there we need.

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That's another anniversary donation.

Belated, but still worthwhile.

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He's the lover of America, Archduke Aluna, lover of America, and lover of melons.

And he says, God bless America, boobs.

Yeah.

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Or Castoro.

808.

Castorelle.

Okay, Castorelle.

Yeah, that would be it.

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He always comes in with the 8008 once in a while.

Always once in a while.

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Even though John is confused by my bouncing BBB donation, B88B boob donation, bouncing boobs.

Yes.

Oh, that's what this is.

Okay, it's a bouncy.

B-886 is bouncing boobs.

Hello.

I saw the sad puppy.

Okay, text format.

Okay.

Well, you did that.

But okay, Cameron Linga, North Branch, Minnesota, 6789.

6789.

Nice.

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What, you missed?

No, no, 66.

Oh, 66.

Oh, she's already, I've already made her older.

Thanks.

Way to go.

Yeah.

66.

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That's a Dutchman.

No, it's German.

Is it?

You sure?

Well, it says DE.

Oh, DE.

Deutschland.

5832.

It's a microchip donation in honor of the

NE5532 audio op amp.

Hmm.

I think that that's national semiconductor enumeration.

I I could be wrong.

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He's back to donating.

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Time to ditch mail chimp.

Zachary.

I will talk about that for a second.

Yeah, okay.

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These are all $50 donors with the donate with the added fees.

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And then Anonymous in Rome, Texas, 52.71.

Don't do that.

Wow.

I'm sorry.

No, not you.

I'm talking about him

adding the fees.

Yeah.

And then getting it past the $49.90.

No, no, $49.99.

No, your secret is safe with us.

Anonymous?

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Beat that chimp.

Try Convert Kit.

He speaks in riddles.

Well, something about the mail chimp, and Convert Kit may be something better than the mail chimp.

That's what it is.

Looks like a native ad to me.

Yeah, yep, yep.

Smells like ketamine to me.

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Oh, God, I can never.

This is

Marius.

Good old old Marius.

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50-50.

Well, I'm glad we hear from the Norwegians once in a while.

Matthew Dropko, $50.11.

Oh, this is Vincent.

This is a good one.

Hold on a second.

11 years sober donation.

August 6, 2025 was 11 years.

Thanks for No Agenda for being part of Keeping Me Sane and Sober every year of that.

Congratulations, Matthew.

Dropko's one of our regulars.

He's always

sending us notes.

He's a producer.

And we're very happy for you.

Congratulations, brother.

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He's in Tombull, Texas.

And now the rest of these are $50 donors, a little more than last week.

Say the least, Mike Moon in Athens, Georgia.

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Sorry, that's different.

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We got a lot of Texans today, and I want to talk about the newsletter before we say thanks to everybody.

Okay.

So I go to MailChimp, and...

Which has been our go-to tool for over a decade.

Yeah, and it works.

You know, it does keeps track of things.

It does a pretty decent job,

even though it's dropping out recently.

So I go there and you put in who you're going to send this to.

You click the button, it sends immediately sends you an error message saying, you got your Google Translate.

It's turned on.

What?

And I'm, what?

It's in your Bravo.

So I try again, try it again.

I try to do test mailings and nothing.

It keeps coming up with the Google Translate thing.

And so I'm not even on Google.

I'm not using Chrome.

No, but

what are you using?

You're using Firefox or Bravo?

Yeah, I use Firefox.

And so

do you have a widget thing installed?

No,

there's nothing going on.

It's them.

It was them from the get-go.

So I call customer support, and they have good customer support.

They call me back, even though they didn't call me back right away, like they said.

So they call me back, and I, and yeah, can I help you?

And I said, what's your problem?

And I told them what it was, and they know what the problem is because as soon as I explained it, she says, oh, well, well uh

yes this is a problem we got to add me in working on system level oh we've elevated this to our tech superior they've been working on it before I called

they could have cut the call short and they said it's going to take an hour or two at least

so but in the meantime because they didn't call back right away

Turns out that their module that sent plain text out, which is different,

worked fine.

And it took the mailing list and everything.

So I sent out a plain text message saying the newsletter was borked.

Meanwhile, so I get a bunch of notes from people, well, I didn't get the newsletter.

And I said, I'm sorry.

And they go on and on.

They didn't read the letter.

The letter says clearly that it would not send the newsletter.

So I got a bunch.

I had to deal with people that said, well,

the reason the newsletter didn't come is because of this and that.

And no, it's because they were screwed up at the front end on MailChimp.

Mailchimp couldn't send it.

My favorite is I get all kinds of notes from people who then try to email you and say either I got the email or whatever they want to say, and they get a rejection from your email server saying

rude content, illegal person, blacklist, reject, reject, reject.

And then they get mad at me.

Like,

well, your email system is horrible.

I whitelist people that have problems.

Well, you can't whitelist people if they can't get to you.

That's true.

Actually, you can.

You can.

You can do it by hand.

Yeah, but you don't know if they're trying to get to you if they're rejected by your overzealous spam filter.

It's a little aggressive.

I'm not going to argue the point.

A little aggressive.

I'm like your secretary.

Okay, afford another one.

Well, you finally found a niche.

Okay.

Anyway, so I have specialist props.

Sorry about the,

you know, and every time I do send out two of these things instead of one, you know, people unsubscribe.

I don't know, I'm unsubscribing.

It's too much stuff in my mailbox.

Convert kit, man.

That's the answer, obviously.

I'm going to look into it.

Yes.

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Again, thanks to the executive and associate executive producers for episode 1790.

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It's your birthday birthday.

Oh, no agenda.

We got three on the list today.

Sir Recalcitrant Crazy Steve II wishes Sir Montauk a happy 45th birthday.

He'll be celebrating tomorrow.

Bill turns 40 on the 16th, and Baroness Carolyn of Seoul, Colorado turns 66 on August 23rd.

So of course, we say happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe.

And we see two of our producers move up the peerage ladder thanks to an additional aggregate $1,000 in support.

It is so appreciated.

Sir Fur now becomes Sir Fer Baron of Shasta County.

And Sir Camera Chris, he sent us this note and he said, you know, I should have been upgraded to Baronet on Sunday's show.

You guys got my birthday.

And yes, John, I'm sorry to make it complicated.

I just know sometimes like to know about the numerology.

You guys nailed the birthday, but I should have been upgraded.

He said, by the way, this is not an angry voice, but I can't help myself.

And so, but, you know, it is a self-serve system, so you have to let us know if you've been upgraded.

We don't track that.

We can't even track MailChimp, for Christ's sake.

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Please,

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Please let us know.

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You can be a black knight, and that's when we really screw it up, and it's always very obvious that when that happens.

So, congratulations, Sir Camera Chris.

You became, well, you become Sir Camera Chris Baronet Baylor.

And that's about all I got for you.

But we appreciate it, ma'am.

Wear that new title with pride.

No knights, no dames, but we do have a couple of meetups.

In fact, quite a few meetups to discuss.

Clearly, John has a new noisemaker.

I don't know who gave it to you.

Mimi gave it to me for the anniversary.

Ah.

It's only train noises.

That's a good wife right there.

Trad wife.

Train wife.

No agenda meetups is where you can find the first responders in an emergency in your area.

Connection is protection, and you find that at a No Agenda Meetup.

These are producer-organized.

They're completely free.

You all get together, you yak, you talk, you have a good time, and you meet some friends, you make new friends.

I mean, why spend money on a dating app when you go to a no-agenda meetup?

And we have a few taking place.

In fact, one today,

the Northern Wake Broiling August meetup, 6 o'clock at Hoppy Endings in Raleigh, North Carolina.

I don't think they ever send us a meetup report, yet they have a lot of them, so please do so.

On Saturday, the No Agenda Mid-Cities meetup at 11:30 in the morning, but hey, it's at Bourbon Street Bar and Grill in Bedford, Texas.

So

get ready for it.

And then we have the fifth annual Central Texas Float Meet.

I should actually think I have their promo.

I have their promo here.

Yes, let's play the promo.

Well, take me down to the river where I can hold your body close to us.

This is Baron Scott and Sir Duceberg.

It's time again for the fifth annual Central Texas Float Meet set for Saturday, August 16th.

Now, we're going to start this thing at the 72-degree spring-fed San Marcus River.

Then we will move the party over to Ivers River Pub overlooking the river in the heart of San Marcus.

Marcos.

Go to No Agenda Meetups for details and to RSVP for both the morning 3R float and the afternoon meetup.

Remember,

protection is protection.

On the river,

take me down to the river.

There you go.

So it's really two meetups.

You start in the morning at 10.30 at the Texas State Tubes in San Marcos and you float all the way down to Ivar's River Pub.

And then they have a meetup there at 3 o'clock.

It's always good.

So Deucer is going to be there and Baron Scott of the Armory.

Also on Saturday, the Fort Wayne 33 Dad Gum Sealed Indictments, August 1st, August meetup, 1 p.m.

at Hall's Tavern in Coventry.

That's Fort Wayne, Indiana.

And on Saturday as well, week 33, Orizund meetup.

That's the one in

Copenhagen at Michela Baghaven Refshall.

And

that's our buddy, Paul Piedermont.

He's a Dutch guy who lives in

Copenhagen.

I'm looking forward to that meetup report, gentlemen.

And finally, on the 17th, Sunday, that's our next show day.

Wow, there's a lot coming up in just a few days.

The local 360 meetup at 11 o'clock in the morning in Blaine, Washington, at 277 G Street.

Be there or be square.

Thank you for organizing these.

If you feel like it, do a report.

We love hearing it.

Include your server.

And for all the information about No Agenda Meetups, where to find one, where to go, what to do, go to noagendametups.com.

If you can't find one there,

start one yourself.

It's always easy in a party.

Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days.

It's like a party.

It's always like a grand party.

I have some, I think I actually might have some contenders for ISO, end of show ISO for today's show.

No, good, because I only have one lousy one.

Only one, and it's lousy?

Why did you even bring it to the show?

But it could be good.

It might be good.

All right, so we play yours first.

Yeah, sure.

Or insert code happy before checkout.

Oh, no.

AI slop.

No, no.

That wasn't AI at all.

Oh, you're telling me that wasn't AI?

Then you just got duped.

That's AI.

Or insert code happy before checkout.

Insert code.

No, that was not AI.

Because the guy's voice, he does a show on NPR.

Insert.

Insert code happy before a checkout.

Oh, good.

He's got that slightly gay voice that NPR guys have.

Yeah, slightly.

Here's mine.

Cut one.

Cut one.

Well, hey, it's not a podcast.

It's a platform.

Okay.

I like it.

It's too long.

Yeah, it's a little too long.

It was a lot of fun.

Oh, brother.

Here we go.

They talk more than I do.

This is our new one.

I couldn't hear it.

Well, maybe you can hear her in this one.

Ooh, he's a podcaster.

You couldn't hear it, huh?

They didn't?

They talk more than I do.

I think that one will have to do, but if you can amp it up a bit, it wouldn't hurt.

Oh, it's already quite amped.

You didn't like this one?

Well, hey, it's not a podcast.

It's a platform.

Okay, let's use that.

I thought that was kind of good.

I like that one.

Hey, everybody, it's that highlight of your show.

It is time for John's tip of the day.

Great advice for you and me.

Just the chip with JCD

and sometimes Adam.

Well, I've got a product that was brought to my attention by somebody in a chat room.

No, chat room or troll room?

Well, I don't know what to call them.

But it was some, I forgot,

or it was Usenet.

There you go.

UseNet.

And they claimed it was, they claimed it was,

you could use this stuff.

And

we did some research.

Mimi and I both did some research on this in various Reddit forums and elsewhere.

And it turned out that this is what I'm about to tell you is bull crap.

Oh, okay.

But the product is still a good product.

The product is Rust Oleum

214944.

It's a number.

You have to know that number.

Specialty reflective spray.

Semi-transparent

clear.

Let me guess.

You spray this on your license plate and the camera can't see it.

At night.

God, I knew it.

When it hits the flash, when it flashes, it'll black out the camera.

Because it reflects so much.

Well,

many plates in some states are already reflective, and so that's bullcrap.

And it turns out it's

a bull crap thesis.

It doesn't work.

And it definitely doesn't work during during the day what kind of tip is this what's the tip

it's a great product you can spray it on anything that needs like if you have a bike if you're a bicyclist you spray it on the back of the bike it's clear it's transparent so you just it's like a clear coat and you spray it on anything you want and it reflects like a it just amazing it lights up the the street

it's so reflective it's a terrific product for it put you paint your mailbox or something if you're in some road where you know people can you can you do it it on your own?

You could spray paint your dog.

You could.

I don't think you get the dog, I'd appreciate it, but you could spray paint the collar.

You could spray paint the back if you're a jogger.

There's a lot of possible uses for this Rustoleum

214944 specialty reflective spray, semi-transparent, clear finish.

I'm going to get some for Tina.

Thank you for dynamite product.

Because she does a walk every morning.

She gets up, and before anything, she goes out for a walk with her weighted vest and she goes out for half an hour.

And I said this morning, I said, you know, pretty soon it's going to be dark.

And I don't want you walking out there alone on the street, you know, in the dark.

Not for, I mean, she's packing, so you don't want to mess with her, but, you know, cars.

And so this would be a great, a great thing.

So I can spray paint my wife and she'll be safe.

Well, you can spray paint the back of the pack she's wearing or whatever.

You can spray paint different things with it.

But you have to follow instructions.

And the key to success, by the way, you have to be careful with all these kinds of

Oh, yes.

Key to success.

You got to shake the crap out of it.

You have to shake, shake, shake, because there's a bunch of little glass beads that have to be dispersed within the paint structure.

So you got to shake it a lot before you use it.

Shake before use, everybody.

Find all of them at tipoftheday.net.

John's tip of the day.

Great masks for you and me.

Just the tip with JCD.

And sometimes Adam.

Created by Dana Bernetti.

Well, everybody, if that doesn't get your week started off just dandy, I don't know what does.

That's the end of the week.

Well, it's starting for people.

You know, now we're ready to go.

We're getting ready for tomorrow, man.

It's what you do.

Meanwhile, if you're listening there in the troll room on your modern podcast labs, you can just keep on listening.

DH Unplugged is coming up next.

I have not heard this one.

Because I think I turn it off when you start moaning about, oh, Bitcoin is supposed to be a hedge.

How does that work?

I'm like, okay, all right, boomer, I'm turning it off.

Well, I'm still wondering.

You're wondering.

Yes, you're wondering, that's for sure.

So that's coming up next on No Agenda Stream.

We have end of show mixes from Sound Guy Steve and Sir Ned Wood.

All about the Putin meeting.

And as always, we will return on our next show day, which will be Thursday.

We look forward to seeing you then

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It's so picturesque.

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From Northern Silicon Valley, where I remain and the weather remains crappy, I'm John C.

Dvorak.

Remember us again at Noagendadonations.com, and we'll see y'all here on Thursday.

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I really hope that you and President Putin get together and can solve your problem.

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