1826 - "Sauerkraut Kid"

Speaker 1 It's got a big knob. Adam Curry, John C.
Dvorak. It's Thursday, December 18, 2025.
This is your award-winning Give One Nation Media Assassination Episode 1826. This is no agenda.

Speaker 1 The Six Week Cycle is back, and we're broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA, region number six. In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.

Speaker 1 And from Northern Silicon Valley, where the oil refineries are leaving California, I'm John C. Dvorak.
It's Craig Bottom Buzzkill in the morning.

Speaker 1 Well, that wasn't spectacular news. We know they're leaving.
It sucks.

Speaker 1 California sucks. No one wants to be there anymore except you.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I love it here. For some reason, for some reason.
I see on the quad screens as we speak: President Trump has reclassified marijuana.

Speaker 1 As what?

Speaker 1 As good for your breakfast.

Speaker 1 I think. He did this with an executive order.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Hey, kids.

Speaker 1 Well, you know,

Speaker 1 he's such a teetotaler. I just thought he'd be neutral.

Speaker 1 Hey, kids, vote for me.

Speaker 1 Vote for me.

Speaker 1 Weed, free weed. Free weed, kids.

Speaker 1 That's the only thing I can think of.

Speaker 1 Well, look, RFK Jr. is there, so it's about the medicinal properties and goodness of marijuana, which I can attest to.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you can. For well over, I think, for 47 years, I felt very good from smoking weed.

Speaker 1 But I got real productive once I stopped. It's pretty amazing how that works.
Huh. Yeah, I got

Speaker 1 shocker. I got super productive.

Speaker 1 You know, I have this quad screen. Do you ever watch the quad screen on YouTube TV? Yeah.

Speaker 1 So they make it hard to find.

Speaker 1 It's always. Oh, you can put them together if you look

Speaker 1 at the bottom of the menu. You can you can make your own quad screens.

Speaker 1 Oh, well, all I have tried to do that. Yeah, I've done it a number of times.

Speaker 1 But that option only showed up once, and I like the Fox, CNN, MS Now, BBC screen. But, you know, they'll, they'll put it seven levels down, so you got to scroll down.

Speaker 1 And then sometimes they'll mix it up.

Speaker 2 Like, oh, here, try some sports quad screens.

Speaker 1 Most of it's sports quad screen. Yeah, but that's where it came from.
But I like the news quad. I think it's because they don't want me to do it.

Speaker 1 It's probably four streams. Maybe it's bad.

Speaker 1 Of course it is. They hate me.
They hate me because of it.

Speaker 1 That curry guy keeps using this little feature we got here. That's Google.
By the way, I got a cool scam call from Google.

Speaker 1 You got a scam call from it wasn't from Google. Yes, so my phone rang.
It showed up as Google in

Speaker 1 the screen, which I thought. It always

Speaker 1 says Google, right? It says Google. Yeah.
And of course, right away I knew this can never be Google because Google doesn't call anybody ever.

Speaker 1 Ever. You can't call them.
No.

Speaker 1 So I answered. And it's a machine saying, you know, we have an illegal login from Toronto.
If this was you, you can hang up. If it wasn't you, press one.
I'm like, I'm in a good mood. One.

Speaker 1 A representative will call you back. Okay.
Ooh, that's a plus.

Speaker 1 And so maybe a minute later, I get a call from also from a 650 number, which the first one was 650 as well, but this didn't have, didn't say Google, so that was a little minus point.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 I'm kicking myself. I should have recorded it.
A very well-spoken young lady on the phone. And she was from Google safety and security team.
And, you know, we see this

Speaker 1 login.

Speaker 1 Was that you?

Speaker 1 I said, no, it wasn't from Toronto. And she had my phone number, and she had my adamacura.com email address.
Right. There's the dossier in everybody.
And it floats around, so they all have it.

Speaker 1 So don't be surprised. Nobody should ever be surprised that they have your address.
So I just want, no, of course not. So I just wanted to see how far we could go.

Speaker 1 But it was not like some Indian chappie, you know, it was a, sounded like a white woman.

Speaker 1 It wasn't some Indian guy named Steve. No, no, no.
And she was very pleasant as we understand, Mr. Curry.
And yeah, we, we, let's get this resolved. And I said, well, did they get my password?

Speaker 1 She says, no, they didn't get your password. Um, uh, because I see you have uh

Speaker 1 two-factor authentication on your account. Okay.

Speaker 1 Um, so well, good. Thanks.
Thanks for um keeping me safe. See, the only thing we need to do is we need to, because this person keeps opening tickets in our trouble ticket system,

Speaker 1 we need you to close it out.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. This is a good one.
I haven't, I've not, this is a, this is a very creative. So,

Speaker 1 how do I do that? I want you to go to the following address, sites.

Speaker 1 Here we go.

Speaker 1 Here we go. Hello.
Sites.google.com/slash close-ticket. I'm like, and I say to her, Yeah, but that's just where you can host a public website on Google.
I mean, that doesn't sound very official.

Speaker 1 She said, Did you type it in? I said, Yeah, I did. Okay, now can you close the ticket? I said, I can't.
She says, Oh, why not? Say, I have a login screen. Oh, yeah, just log in.

Speaker 1 I'm like, that doesn't seem like a good idea, ma'am. Like, if this is just a public website, then you might capture my email address and my password.

Speaker 1 I like the use of sites.google.com because it does, because if you're naive about it, it gives you confidence. Because it's got google.com in there, even though it's like some obvious.

Speaker 1 I said, well, you know, maybe you should show me that you're really from Google. Well, I just sent you an email with your code.
So I look in my email. There's a from no-reply at google.com.

Speaker 1 Okay, it's spoofed. I didn't look at the headers, but I knew it was spoofed.

Speaker 1 No link to do anything with. They said, okay, I got a code.

Speaker 1 So now, can you close out the ticket with that code? She said, but I'm not going to log into sites.google.com.

Speaker 1 And I said, What

Speaker 1 email address did you send this to? To adammatcurry.com. I said, That's not my Google email, my Gmail address.
Well, yes, it is. I said, No,

Speaker 1 yes, you have your site hosted by Google Workspace. Okay, so now she's in deep water because I don't, obviously.

Speaker 1 And in fact, I've been very careful never to link my adammacurry.com to Gmail or anything like that.

Speaker 1 I said, but it's not, yes, it is. She's arguing with me now.
Yes, your site is hosted by Google Workspace. I see the MX record.
Whoa,

Speaker 1 now that's sophisticated.

Speaker 1 Said, so you, yes, I see the MX record has our email servers.

Speaker 1 Now,

Speaker 1 this is not true. And I read her the MX record as I pull it up.
I say, you know what?

Speaker 1 I'll make it okay with you. Just send me an email from you at a google.com email address, not Gmail or Google, and then I'd be more inclined to believe you.

Speaker 1 Now, at that point, we're 15, 20 minutes in, she hung up. But for

Speaker 1 just hung up, yes, oh, you just disconnected. Didn't even say

Speaker 1 she probably kicked herself for talking to you at all. Didn't say you a-hole or anything.

Speaker 1 I like it when they cuss you out. Yeah, no, she just gave up.
But

Speaker 1 in general, I'd say it's pretty sophisticated. From a confidence.
That sounds pretty good, yeah. I like that.
From a confidence perspective. And I like the sites.google.
They're excellent.

Speaker 1 Excellent work. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Good work. Foiled again.
But man, it just shows you how crap everything is. It really, everything sucks.
The whole internet, everything just blows. It always has.

Speaker 1 It's got

Speaker 1 the beginning of Usenet since they banned advertising. Here we go.

Speaker 1 Started with Usenet. They let advertisers in.
That's where it all started.

Speaker 1 Oh, man. So we have a couple of things

Speaker 1 we can address right off the bat.

Speaker 1 I would suggest either since you have a three by three

Speaker 1 maybe we should start with

Speaker 1 with Wiles because I think that's yeah this is kind of cute. This is Susie Wiles.

Speaker 1 Let me play the jingle first. Now it's time for three by three.
Hey baby experiment batch E D

Speaker 1 comparing stories from ABC CBS and MBC

Speaker 1 the never-ending three by three. I have thoughts about this too.

Speaker 1 I'm sure you do because I do too. Everybody does.
Everybody's got thoughts. And the thing is, it's like, was this a plan? Was this done on purpose?

Speaker 1 Was Susie Wells naive because everybody goes around the table saying, well, she should have known better to talk to Vanity Fair. They're out to.

Speaker 1 They're just a bunch of screwballs that hate Republicans and she shouldn't have done the interview. And then somebody else brings up, well, she got, she did 11 interviews.
It wasn't just one.

Speaker 1 No, no, it was almost a year, I think, she was talking to him. So she's yaking away for a while.

Speaker 1 And then nobody stabbed her in the back after the thing came out, which was

Speaker 1 Kelly McInnan. He said the most remarkable thing was typically

Speaker 1 when somebody is wounded in one of these hit pieces,

Speaker 1 a bunch of stuff starts showing up about

Speaker 1 people behind the scenes saying, yeah, she's worse than that.

Speaker 1 And none of that occurred. So she thought that was pretty good, which makes me think the whole thing is an op.
And then you had comeback lines from both J.D. Vance and Trump that were stunners.

Speaker 1 And I mean, Trump's was the best, but J.D. Vance's little thing on conspiracy theories is fabulous.
Well, can I just frame this for a moment?

Speaker 1 Because it's

Speaker 1 Vanity Fair. The editor, global editorial director, Mark Guiducci, Guiducci.

Speaker 1 Yes. Guiducci.
Guaducci, born in America, but educated in London, considers himself to be British Polish as part of his

Speaker 1 background. He has the global mandate as global editorial director.

Speaker 1 And under Guuducci's leadership, Vanity Fair has leaned back into its roots as the primary chronicler of British monarchy for an American audience. The Royal Watch Tradition.

Speaker 1 Where did you get that quote?

Speaker 1 From Google.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's okay. So, yes, I can't.
North Sea Nexus. Yeah, I received it.
Hit job. Total hit.
But remember, he's under Anna Wintour's oversight. Who's the one? And she's the worst.

Speaker 1 She's the one who turned Teen Vogue became a Marxist magazine. They had to fold it finally.
LGBTQ nut job magazine.

Speaker 1 Well, mostly, but Marxist.

Speaker 1 They actually have had articles on why Marxism is great

Speaker 1 in Teen Vogue.

Speaker 1 But to me, this is a typical North Sea Nexus hit job. Yeah, but I don't think it worked.

Speaker 1 No, but a long game, though. Long game.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's just one of those things. You throw this stuff, you just start, you pile on.

Speaker 1 So the media, they kind of, or the mainstream three by three people, they come, you know, they're not totally in the bag for it.

Speaker 1 But and it's semi-balanced, but let's listen to, let's listen to these three networks talk about the same thing, starting with ABC.

Speaker 5 She is President Trump's most powerful and trusted aide, more comfortable behind the scenes than in the spotlight.

Speaker 6 Susie likes to stay sort of in the back, let me tell you.

Speaker 1 The ice baby.

Speaker 6 We call her the ice baby.

Speaker 5 But tonight, White House Chief of Staff Susie Wiles pulling back the curtain in an extraordinary series of interviews with Vanity Fair.

Speaker 5 Wiles, who says her father was an alcoholic, describes her boss, the president, as having an alcoholics personality, noting that Trump, who does not drink, operates with the view that there's nothing he can't do.

Speaker 1 Nothing. Zero.
Nothing.

Speaker 5 Wiles also has choice words for Vice President J.D. Vance.
Discussing the push to release the FBI files into sex offender Jeffrey Epstein, Wiles says Vance has been a conspiracy theorist for a decade.

Speaker 5 Vance today responding.

Speaker 7 Sometimes I am a conspiracy theorist, but I only believe in the conspiracy theories that are true.

Speaker 5 Wiles also points a finger at Attorney General Pam Bondi.

Speaker 1 Wow, they didn't play the whole bit where he said he talked about the different conspiracy theories. That's no, the whole bit where he goes on on Biden, they gave him an opportunity to go off.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it seems

Speaker 1 momentous. And the networks, of course,

Speaker 5 Wiles also points a finger at Attorney General Pam Bondi, saying Bondi completely whiffed her handling of demands to release the files on convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.

Speaker 5 Wiles telling Vanity Fair there is no client list, and it sure as hell wasn't on Bondi's desk. She does acknowledge the president himself is in the Epstein files, but not doing anything awful.

Speaker 5 She says the two men were sort of young, single playboys together.

Speaker 6 I never went to the island, and Bill Clinton went there supposedly

Speaker 6 28 times.

Speaker 5 She also says this claim about Clinton is not true. Wiles telling Vanity Fair there is no evidence Clinton ever visited Epstein's private island.

Speaker 5 And David Wiles also acknowledges that the president has sought retribution against some of his enemies, saying, quote, when there's an opportunity, he will go for it.

Speaker 5 Tonight, Wiles calls the article a disingenuously framed hit piece, though she doesn't deny saying these things.

Speaker 1 It warrants mentioning that Chris Whipple, Chris Whipple,

Speaker 1 Whipple,

Speaker 1 who did this article, he literally wrote the book on previous chiefs of staff. So I think there was probably a little bit of pride or ego, something going on there with Susie Wiles.

Speaker 1 You know, I forget what the book is called, but he went back and interviewed like 20 different chiefs of staff for presidents. And it was a well-received book.
So

Speaker 1 he came with credentials. He had credentials, but that doesn't mean even the most credentialed journalists will do a hit piece for money.
Of course. That's what you do.
Yes.

Speaker 1 You do it. I do it.
You did it.

Speaker 1 You did it all the time. Well,

Speaker 1 you were the Mac hitman. I'm going to hit Mac again.
I'm going to shoot those Mac men.

Speaker 1 I was hired to do nasty pieces of money. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 A big looked on the masthead of that magazine and said anti-editor. Yes.
Who many people have ever held that title? You are an amazing man. Oh, yeah.
It's astonishing.

Speaker 1 We'll move alphabetical order. We'll go to CBS.

Speaker 9 Susie Wiles offered a stunning assessment of the central characters in the White House, starting with her boss, saying President Trump has an alcoholics personality.

Speaker 9 A notable comment from the daughter of NFL and CBS sports legend Pat Summerall, who famously struggled with alcohol.

Speaker 9 Wiles says Trump has a view that there's nothing he can't do. Nothing.
Zero. Nothing.
As for Vice President Vance, Wiles says he's been a conspiracy theorist for a decade.

Speaker 1 But he makes

Speaker 1 in Pennsylvania.

Speaker 7 Sometimes I am a conspiracy theorist, but I only believe in the conspiracy theories that are true.

Speaker 1 Wiles also had words for Elon Musk, who she called an avowed ketamine user.

Speaker 10 An odd, odd duck.

Speaker 1 It's mostly just a lot of hard work.

Speaker 9 And she said she was initially aghast when Musk dismantled USAID as part of his cost-cutting Doge program.

Speaker 9 No rational person could think the USAID process was a good one, she said. Nobody.

Speaker 9 On the Jeffrey Epstein scandal that has dogged the White House, Wiles said the president wasn't telling the truth when he accused former President Bill Clinton of visiting the convicted sex offender's private island.

Speaker 9 There's no evidence, she said.

Speaker 10 The president was wrong about that.

Speaker 9 The White House today tried to discredit author Chris Whipple, who says he conducted 11 interviews with Wiles over the course of a year.

Speaker 11 This is, unfortunately, another example of disingenuous reporting,

Speaker 11 where you have a reporter who took the chief of staff's words wildly out of context, did not include the context those conversations were had within.

Speaker 9 Wiles also pointed to moments where she tried unsuccessfully to change the president's mind.

Speaker 9 She urged him not to pardon the most violent offenders during the January 6th insurrection, to hold off on imposing massive tariffs on U.S.

Speaker 9 allies this past spring, and to end his score settling against critics after 90 days in office.

Speaker 9 Wiles, who's popular across the administration and close with the president, called the article a, quote, disingenuously framed hit piece. And what does the president make of all this?

Speaker 9 Well, he told the New York Post this afternoon, quote, she's done a fantastic job.

Speaker 1 So, as a former

Speaker 1 hitman, hit piece writer,

Speaker 1 hired gun, how does this work?

Speaker 1 Do they just really pull quotes out of context? Because I can see where she might have said, well, J.D. Vance is a conspiracy theorist, but man, he's been right a couple of times.

Speaker 1 Is that how it's done? You just take that piece and you put that in. Yeah, you just, it's selective

Speaker 1 citation.

Speaker 1 It's very common. I mean, I had a hit piece done on me,

Speaker 1 and I know why. I've been doing hit pieces on you for 18 years.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but you're no good at it.

Speaker 1 Well, tell us about that. This is another story I don't know.
Tell us about the hit piece.

Speaker 1 I had written a very nasty

Speaker 1 remark, some nasty remarks about Negro John. Is it actually

Speaker 1 John? No, not that Negroponte.

Speaker 1 No, the one that was running the MIT media. Nicholas, Nicholas Nicholas Negroponte.
Nicholas. I wrote

Speaker 1 a scathing article about the whole lab being a big phony baloney operation.

Speaker 1 And I put it, it was in the Deck Professional, a very minor magazine,

Speaker 1 only the aficionados read.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 Negroponte ended up at some position or other at Wired.

Speaker 1 I remember that. I remember that.

Speaker 1 So to get back at me, he had Paulina Borsuk

Speaker 1 do a hit piece on me.

Speaker 1 What was the hit piece? What did it say? Well,

Speaker 1 Paulina could never pull it off. Exactly.

Speaker 1 I wined and dined her. I took her to a, she's a vegan or vegetarian.
I took her to a vegetarian restaurant to talk over some of the stuff.

Speaker 1 I can put on a charm offensive. But did you know she was going to write a hit piece? No, it was, she was, I think she hinted at me that was she was writing a hit piece.
Oh, that's not right.

Speaker 1 No, no, it was she it was it didn't work out and they try and the piece was it was semi-successful in a couple of moments, but it didn't get didn't do it.

Speaker 1 It didn't it was it's actually became a pretty complimentary

Speaker 1 let me guess. It's like he was wrong about the mouse.
He was wrong about the iPad. He's no good.

Speaker 1 It was it wasn't like it was similar, but it was it but it was in what they ran it as a as a profile and wired,

Speaker 1 and they brought it, they brought out a photographer to make me look like an idiot.

Speaker 1 And I, by the way, this is for anybody who wants to

Speaker 1 put on the clown nose, it'll be great.

Speaker 1 For anybody out there, you know this more than anybody, probably, but you have to, when you're having your photo taken for some article or something, do not let the photographer badger you into stupid stuff.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 Just say no. Why don't you hold this

Speaker 1 mouse upside down? It'll look great in the shot. Can you stick your tongue out? Yeah.
Oh,

Speaker 1 there's another good one. Yes.
Can you stick your tongue out?

Speaker 1 Look really surprised.

Speaker 1 So I avoided that part of it. I said, no.
Good for you. And so

Speaker 1 he still got a funny picture of me, but it was okay.

Speaker 1 Actually, it was so interesting, the photo, I had them send me a copy.

Speaker 1 All right, back to the hit piece from Vanity Fair.

Speaker 1 So, yes, it's very easy to do. It's, you know, it doesn't take

Speaker 1 you to do 11 interviews. You can get more than enough material to do a beautiful hit piece.
They never needed to do a hit piece on you.

Speaker 1 Just rerun the YouTube video of you trying to put that IBM PC back together.

Speaker 1 That's my favorite. It's a PS2.
It should work. Hold on a second.

Speaker 1 I just need a screwdriver

Speaker 1 and a soldering iron. I can do this.
It should fit. No, they all snapped back into place.
It was dynamite. Except that one.

Speaker 1 It's a great clip.

Speaker 1 Hey, if that's all that you did wrong, you know, beside the mouse and iPad thing. It turns out, I'll give you another story about me.

Speaker 1 So David Renson, who used to do these profiles, he used to be the writer for Playboy Magazine. And somehow, along the lines, when I was cranking out all these books,

Speaker 1 Renson got, I was targeted to be profiled by PC Magazine.

Speaker 1 I'm sorry, by Playboy in this 40 questions. They had some gimmicky thing called 20 Questions or something.
Yeah. I forgot what.
It was years ago.

Speaker 1 It's like you think you're going to be the main interview, but you're not.

Speaker 1 I don't know what it doesn't matter because Renson comes over and we end up talking about writing and all kinds of stuff.

Speaker 1 And eventually, it turns out, which I told him, I said, I'm actually kind of boring for this sort of article. You're not going to, it's not going to be very good.
And

Speaker 1 he agreed.

Speaker 1 Never got written up, and it was fine with me.

Speaker 1 All right, I got some clips on this too. So let's play NBC and see if they had the

Speaker 1 last one.

Speaker 1 Same story, same clip. Okay, we got to get it.
Those remarkably revealing comments about President Trump from his chief of staff, Susie Wiles.

Speaker 1 A relationship so close, the president recently suggested she's part of the family.

Speaker 15 Do you know Susie Trump?

Speaker 16 Sometimes referred to as Susie Wiles, Susie Trump.

Speaker 1 But tonight she's facing new scrutiny for a series of interviews with Vanity Fair about criticism the president is targeting perceived political enemies.

Speaker 1 Wiles says, I don't think he wakes up thinking about retribution, but when there's an opportunity, he will go for it.

Speaker 1 She also says President Trump, who does not drink, has an alcoholics personality, adding he operates with a view that there's nothing he can't do, calling herself an expert in big personalities.

Speaker 1 Tonight, President Trump's saying he agrees with her, telling the New York Post he has a possessive and addictive type personality.

Speaker 1 I'm fortunate I'm not a drinker, praising Wiles, saying, I don't read Vanity Fair, but she's done a fantastic job.

Speaker 1 Then there's the vice president, who Wiles describes as a conspiracy theorist for a decade. Vance today brushing it off.

Speaker 7 Sometimes I am a conspiracy theorist, but I only believe in the conspiracy theories that are true. And by the way, Susie and I have joked in private and in public about that for a long time.

Speaker 1 And she contradicts the president's claim Bill Clinton visited Jeffrey Epstein's island, saying there is no evidence those visits.

Speaker 1 Acknowledging the president was wrong about that.

Speaker 1 Wiles tonight is strongly pushing back against the article, calling it a disingenuously framed hit piece on me and the finest president, White House staff, and cabinet in history, adding significant context was disregarded to paint an overwhelmingly chaotic and negative narrative.

Speaker 1 So first, I want to play some of those actual J.D. Vance quotes because they were funny.
And, of course, no one picked it up.

Speaker 1 But here's his full answer. They literally cut this part out in that NBC piece.

Speaker 18 Well, first of all, if

Speaker 18 Susie,

Speaker 18 I'll trust what you said. I haven't looked at the article.
I, of course, have heard about it. But conspiracy theorists.

Speaker 1 That was very slick. I think that's very slick what he said there.

Speaker 1 Because most of them say, I haven't read the article,

Speaker 1 which of course he has. But instead, he says, I'm very, I'm familiar with it.
I haven't read the article because I'm a busy man, I'm vice president, but I, you know, of course, I'm familiar with it.

Speaker 1 That is the way you address that. Instead of saying, I poured over and over my cornflakes, which you know he did, because of course you did.

Speaker 18 Like,

Speaker 18 I'll trust what you said. I haven't looked at the article.
I, of course, have heard about it. But, conspiracy theorist,

Speaker 18 sometimes I am a conspiracy theorist, but I only believe in the conspiracy theories that are true.

Speaker 1 Crowd goes wild.

Speaker 18 And by the way, Susie and I have joked in private and in public about that for a long time.

Speaker 18 For example, I believed in the crazy conspiracy theory back in 2020 that it was stupid to mask three-year-olds at the height of the COVID pandemic, that we should actually let them develop some language skills.

Speaker 18 You know, I believed in this crazy conspiracy theory that the media and and the government were covering up the fact that Joe Biden was clearly unable to do the job.

Speaker 18 And I believed in the conspiracy theory that Joe Biden was trying to throw his political opponents in jail rather than win an argument against his political opponents. So,

Speaker 18 at least on some of these conspiracy theories, it turns out that a conspiracy theory is just something that was true six months before the media admitted it. And that's that's my understanding.

Speaker 1 It was good. Yeah, it was excellent.
Yeah, yeah, I thought it was very good. But of course, that never saw the light of day.
Who cares?

Speaker 1 Jen Pisaki had an interesting comment in her

Speaker 1 Does anyone watch that show? Do we even know when it's on?

Speaker 1 Pretty much the only thing that's on the show. The only people who watch this show are gut-felled.

Speaker 20 Well, here we go. Let me start with this.
There is a little-known tradition in Washington whenever a new administration takes office.

Speaker 20 The new president's incoming chief of staff has dinner with all the previous chiefs of staff. Usually, one of them hosts it at their house or at a restaurant or whatever, whatever it may be.

Speaker 1 And chiefs of staff from both parties attend.

Speaker 20 And they all do this so that they can offer advice to the new incoming chief of staff on how to prepare for the role.

Speaker 20 It's kind of a nice tradition through multiple different administrations of both parties.

Speaker 1 Everyone on MSNBC, you'll hear a couple more. They all sound sick.
There's a bug going going around at NBC.

Speaker 1 You'll hear

Speaker 1 it could be.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they're all sick.

Speaker 20 And when Trump won the election last year, his new chief of staff, Susie Wiles, reportedly attended one of those dinners too.

Speaker 20 They each went around the table, giving her tips, as they normally do, for how to do the job.

Speaker 20 And when they got to Trump's first chief of staff, Ryan Spriebus, he had just one piece of advice for Susie Wiles. Just one.

Speaker 1 He told her, quote, don't don't talk to Whipple.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, there you go. She was warned.
She was warned. Now, I have to add.
Don't talk to Whipple. I have to talk.
Now, that is funny. Yeah, it's very funny.
I have to add,

Speaker 1 at the behest of the troll room, we have to say that Susie Wiles worked for Netanyahu. So it's possible she's a Mossad agent and is trying single-handedly to bring down the president.

Speaker 1 Just have to mention that.

Speaker 1 So don't talk to Whipple.

Speaker 1 Well, the person who did talk to Whipple is our own British agent, Anderson Pooper. Joining me now is Chris Whipple in his first broadcast interview since his two-part Benny Fair piece landed.

Speaker 1 He's also the author of the New York Times bestseller, The Gatekeepers. It landed like a lead balloon.
How the White House Chiefs of Staff Define Every Presidency. Chris, thanks for being with us.

Speaker 1 Great to be here. A lot to talk about.
First of all, of all the things Suiji Wiles told you, what surprised you the most?

Speaker 22 You know, Anderson, this was one of those cases as a reporter in your career when lightning strikes.

Speaker 22 And it was astonishing to me the extent to which she was unguarded and freewheeling, on the record all the time.

Speaker 22 I've covered, as you know, I wrote a book about the Biden White House where everybody was on deep background requiring quote approval. Quite the opposite in this case.

Speaker 22 Susie Wiles, in 11 interviews over 11 months.

Speaker 1 That's how many there were. 11 interviews over 11 months.

Speaker 22 11 in-depth interviews in which she was on the record. Everything in the article

Speaker 22 was on the record.

Speaker 1 Were you recording every interview?

Speaker 22 I recorded every interview.

Speaker 1 Even ones that were on the phone, there was one where she was doing laundry, apparently.

Speaker 22 Yep, everything is on tape.

Speaker 1 Did she know this was for Vanity Fair? Did she think this was for a long-term book that you were doing?

Speaker 22 She knew I was working on a book at the outset. When I told her that Vanity Fair had agreed to do a piece, to publish a piece, she was all in and enthusiastic about it.

Speaker 1 Okay. So show some transparency from the Trump White House.
Yay! I'm doing laundry. You can talk to me, Whipple.
No problem. Why? Because she is

Speaker 1 legendarily averse to being out front.

Speaker 22 That's why I say that this was lightning striking.

Speaker 22 It's amazing to me.

Speaker 22 First of all, I think that she is the most fascinating person in American politics, not only because she ran a brilliant campaign and brought Trump back from the dead to win the 2024 election.

Speaker 22 She's the first female White House chief of staff. But in addition, she's kind of the Greta Garbo of White House chiefs.
She's never on camera,

Speaker 22 rarely on camera, hardly ever gives interviews, and yet she did. I think it's because all I can tell you is what she told me.
She felt the Trump 1.0 had been unfairly covered, that Trump was vilified.

Speaker 1 And during the first administration.

Speaker 22 During the first administration, she wanted a fair hearing, and I think she thought she would get one.

Speaker 1 Yeah, she thought she would get one. Thought she would get one.
Yes. Now, in this next clip, he slips up and the truth comes out.

Speaker 22 Here's the fascinating thing, and that is not only is there this amazing 11-month journey that I document of Susie Wiles through this whole period, but it really goes all the way back to her childhood and her famous father, Pat Sommerall, who was an alcoholic.

Speaker 22 She organized interventions with her mother to get treatment for him. He was sober for 21 years, but she learned how to deal with difficult men.

Speaker 1 It is a fascinating data point that, I mean, I certainly didn't know about her that, you know,

Speaker 1 adult children of

Speaker 1 people who grew up with alcoholics are, I mean, she's in sort of the perfect job. I mean, it sort of makes sense

Speaker 1 that

Speaker 1 what she learned as a little girl. Hey, you learned how to deal with a drunk.
You can deal with Trump.

Speaker 1 Her life dealing with him. And Trump is owning it.

Speaker 22 Trump is wearing it in effect as a kind of badge of honor.

Speaker 22 He's saying what she meant when she said that he has an alcoholic's personality is not that he's a drinker, we know that he's not, but that he has this grandiose personality.

Speaker 22 He believes that there is nothing, as she put it, nothing that he doesn't think he can do.

Speaker 1 She is saying Susie Wilde's pushback on the story on social media, saying, quote, significant context was disregarded.

Speaker 1 Actually, so that was a funny boot, but that wasn't the clip with the slip-up. It's the last one here, and you'll hear it.

Speaker 22 Here's the fascinating thing, and that is: not only is there.

Speaker 1 Wait, isn't that the same clip?

Speaker 1 Wait a minute.

Speaker 1 That doesn't make sense. This is so good.

Speaker 1 She is saying, Susie Wilde's pushback about saying stuff.

Speaker 1 Crap, maybe it's in this one. One of the things the White House is saying, things were taken out of context,

Speaker 1 wildly out of context, was the quote of

Speaker 1 Levitt.

Speaker 1 Are things taken out of context? Because some of the quotes are tight. I mean, they're just

Speaker 1 what does that even mean in

Speaker 1 writer speak? Some of the quotes, they're tight. What does that mean? It doesn't mean anything.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Are things that out of taken out of context? Because some of the quotes are, they're tight. I mean, they're just, it's like this.

Speaker 22 Everything is scrupulously in context. And I got to tell you, the giveaway, when you're a journalist and you hear the target,

Speaker 22 the subject.

Speaker 1 There it is. Beautiful.
If you're going for a hit job, you don't have a subject, you have a target. Yeah.
He admits it. He admits it right there.
Yeah, you caught that.

Speaker 1 You get, in fact, you get a borderline clip of the day for catching that. That's beautiful.

Speaker 1 Clip of the day. All right, let's finish this clip.

Speaker 2 I'm taking it out of context because some of the quotes are tight.

Speaker 1 I mean, they're just, it's like.

Speaker 22 Everything is scrupulously in context. And I got to tell you, the giveaway, when you're a journalist and you hear the target,

Speaker 22 the subject saying, talking about things like context and omissions, you know you're on the right track because there isn't a single fact or a single assertion that they've challenged in the piece.

Speaker 22 It really reminds me of the Watergate days when Ben Bradley said, talked about non-denial denials. This is the ultimate non-denial.

Speaker 1 They're not really attacking, well, I never, I absolutely never said that, although it's. All right, you give us some context on this.
The non-denial. I looked it up, the non-denial, denial.

Speaker 1 Is that some kind of

Speaker 1 term? I have no idea. This is all news to me.

Speaker 1 I mean, what he's saying there, you know, yes, if somebody, if you say, well, I think that really sucks, but then again, it might not suck. And then the quote is, that really sucks.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I did say that.

Speaker 1 And so you can't deny it, but the non-denial, denial, that whatever the hell that phrase is, you could say it's out of context because I also said I also said but sometimes it doesn't suck or whatever I mean this is the kind of thing when you take selective quotations and you just pull them this is why sarcasm is a bad idea on

Speaker 1 podcasts

Speaker 1 or or even in in uh in a conversation or anywhere where you're being interviewed see somebody sarcastic they'll take the sarcastic bit and they'll just take the remark and then and and without the sarcastic tone, if it's played flat, I mean,

Speaker 1 Tucker Carlson has all kinds of good quotes

Speaker 1 if you don't know if they're taken out of context and they're not played as sarcasm. You can't do it.

Speaker 1 You can't do it. I've lost it.

Speaker 1 You lost it. I lost it.
If they're taken as a direct quote rather than sarcasm,

Speaker 1 it can make you sound terrible, like a terrible person. Let's finish this clip.
Susie Wiles did at one point say

Speaker 1 that she denied saying that Elon Musk is an avowed ketamine user.

Speaker 1 You then apparently, according to the reporter, you played a tape for the New York Times which confirmed that quote.

Speaker 22 It's on tape, as is every assertion that Susie made.

Speaker 22 And as you know, I interviewed the inner circle as well. I talked to J.D.
Vance, I talked to Marco Rubio, Stephen Miller,

Speaker 22 and others.

Speaker 22 All of it taped, all of it on the record. And the giveaway is that they haven't been able to challenge a single fact.

Speaker 1 Are you surprised that the President is not, apparently, it seems,

Speaker 1 at least publicly, not angry with Wiles?

Speaker 22 Well, here's the other thing. As you say, it's not very often that

Speaker 22 you get an endorsement of your quotation from the president.

Speaker 1 You know, he

Speaker 1 alcoholic personality.

Speaker 22 Yeah, and he evidently wears that as a badge of honor.

Speaker 1 Yes. Wonderful.

Speaker 1 I hate to do this, but it is worth it for the entertainment purposes. I'm sorry, here's your warning.

Speaker 24 A clip from the view will be played.

Speaker 24 Shelter in place.

Speaker 12 Well, Susie Wiles calls the article, quote, disingenuously framed hit piece with significant contexts disregarded.

Speaker 1 Context? But what was she thinking? Was she agreed to do this?

Speaker 12 When they asked the first question and you knew it was a question that

Speaker 12 was hit piece with you, why did you answer it?

Speaker 21 I know. One thing that I forgot to add, she called Elon Musk an odd duck and

Speaker 21 an avowed ketamine user.

Speaker 1 He sleeps in a sleeping bed.

Speaker 21 But then she added that she has no personal knowledge of the ketamine use, but she did call him an avowed kid.

Speaker 1 But why does he sleep in this?

Speaker 25 He's a multi-trillionaire and he sleeps in a sleeping bag.

Speaker 13 Because he's an odd duck.

Speaker 1 He's a very odd duck. I would agree with that.

Speaker 1 That's why.

Speaker 12 Is there something wrong with sleeping in a sleeping bag?

Speaker 1 Well, no, I guess fine, whatever.

Speaker 25 I'm just curious. If that's what he wants to do, who am I to do?

Speaker 1 He's a cabillionaire.

Speaker 12 Yeah, he is, I know.

Speaker 1 You know, it's a very expensive sleeping bag.

Speaker 12 They just, you know, she has also.

Speaker 1 Were they not prepped? Were they not prepped for this? I mean, they don't seem to have any

Speaker 1 details. They don't have good jokes that go with it.
I mean, this is a scripted show. I'm kind of surprised.
It seems like they weren't in on the gas.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they obviously weren't read in on anything, and they're just winging it, and it's not good. No, it's not good.

Speaker 1 Then they're picking on poor Musk, odd duck yacht gee.

Speaker 1 That's a horrible horror. What a thing to say about someone.
He sleeps in a sleeping bag.

Speaker 1 He sleeps in a sleeping bag. You know, used to talk about Steve Jobs, the ascetic, who had this big mansion in Woodside that was empty.

Speaker 1 And when he walked around barefoot in a curry con, and that was it.

Speaker 12 Let the world know that there is an adult in the room.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 12 That was also this.

Speaker 1 She let the.

Speaker 12 See, I think it was strategic in a different way. I think she's trying to help him clean up his act.

Speaker 12 Because if she says, well, you know, it was just boys having fun.

Speaker 12 It's like,

Speaker 5 really?

Speaker 12 You know, oh, it was just, you know, this one didn't do what she was supposed to do. This one didn't.

Speaker 1 But I'm on top of it all.

Speaker 12 I'm watching it all.

Speaker 1 I just think you're just trying to clean it up for that.

Speaker 1 She says that.

Speaker 25 It's an interesting point she made that her father was an alcoholic. And she understands the personality of an alcoholic.
So that's why she says he has an alcoholic personality, but he doesn't drink.

Speaker 25 He's a narcissist. He has a narcissistic disorder.

Speaker 26 That is really

Speaker 26 what he had.

Speaker 27 But he responded to you.

Speaker 1 He was not offended by it. No, he made it.
He also had an alcoholic brother.

Speaker 28 I think he got what she was saying.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he understood what she was saying. Okay, they're off the,

Speaker 1 they're not in the game anymore. They're out.

Speaker 1 This was

Speaker 1 a targeted, well-done, long game, acknowledged hit piece because Susie Wiles was the target.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 I think it was played both ways. I think Susie Wiles was aware of the situation, as mentioned by the earlier clip where she was told not to talk to this guy.

Speaker 1 And the thing was kind of a setup because there's a bunch of setup lines in there. And I think one of them, the most important one, is, yeah,

Speaker 1 Trump doesn't, he says it's not true, but if he's given the opportunity to take revenge on somebody, he does it, which is an open threat to anyone who wants to go after Trump

Speaker 1 because, oh, he says he's not into revenge.

Speaker 1 But there it is. He's into revenge, so you better beware.
I think that was a message that was purposely put in there.

Speaker 1 And I think a lot of the stuff in there was purposely put in. He thinks he can do anything because he's, in other words, he can try anything.

Speaker 1 I think the whole thing was a scam. I think she was part of it.
She's smart. Everyone says she's something of a genius in this regard.
She played Whipple, and the whole thing is a benefit to Trump

Speaker 1 at the end of the day.

Speaker 1 There's lines by J.D. Vance were almost prepared in advance.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, good point. Even though he didn't read the article.

Speaker 1 Yeah, even though he didn't have to, because they already told him what was going to happen. This is it.
They're going to go after you, Vance, for being a conspiracy theory. Here's your lines.

Speaker 1 So it was really a switcheroo where they all went, nah, and you know, Whipple is probably like, ah, he's going to call me a horrible person and my star will rise.

Speaker 1 And now everyone's like, Whipple, who?

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's possible.

Speaker 1 It is possible because some of the information in there was a bit threatening to the enemies.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 last night, the president spoke to the nation. I couldn't watch it.
I tried watching it. I got through about five minutes.
I said, this is just another,

Speaker 1 just another, another

Speaker 1 so forth and so on speech. I've heard it before.
Well, there was some preamble that is

Speaker 1 interesting. As Tucker continues his worldwide podcast tour, he was on with Judge Knapp.

Speaker 1 Oh, God. There's a company.
See, he brings those old Fox buddies because you know,

Speaker 1 Judge Knapp.

Speaker 1 Napolitana was working there when Tucker was here. So here's a short exchange that I caught yesterday.
I was like, hmm, interesting. Is Trump going to start a war in Venezuela?

Speaker 1 I don't know. I don't know when this program airs, the one that we're on right now, this thing's speculating.
Well, we're live now, and then it'll be posted immediately. So right now.
So my sense is,

Speaker 2 I don't know the answer.

Speaker 1 I've certainly been on the phone a lot about it.

Speaker 29 I have no power. I'm a podcaster, but I'm very interested.

Speaker 29 And so here's what I know so far, which is that members of Congress were briefed yesterday that a war is coming and it'll be announced in the address to the nation tonight at nine o'clock by the president.

Speaker 29 Who knows, by the way, if that will actually happen. I don't know.
And I never want to overstate what I know, which is pretty limited in general. But a member of Congress told me that this morning.

Speaker 1 Okay, so let's just summarize. The word is out, the president is going to announce war with Venezuela tonight.
That's why he asked for a network cut-in.

Speaker 1 And this network cut-in was significant. On CBS, they were running the season finale of Survivor.
You know, it's kind of a big deal. Yeah, that's a good time to do it.
Yeah. So

Speaker 1 for Trump, I mean, if you want to screw over CBS.

Speaker 1 So the question is:

Speaker 1 was this one of those, let's tell a few selective people this, or maybe one, let's see where it leaks out?

Speaker 1 I think it was done on purpose,

Speaker 1 not to see who did it, who lets it leak out. You'd definitely tell Tucker, but I think it was to get the audience to listen to the Trump spiel.

Speaker 1 I agree.

Speaker 1 It was a pre-promotion.

Speaker 1 What do you call it?

Speaker 1 Promo. So it was Bait and Switch is what it was.

Speaker 2 But it was pre-recorded, obviously.

Speaker 1 And I think it was like, okay, Mr. President, they're probably not going to give you more than 20 minutes before they realize you're not going to announce war against Venezuela.
So you got to do it.

Speaker 1 Talk fast. That was so short.
Talk fast, talk fast.

Speaker 1 Hold on, you made an unbelievable point there.

Speaker 1 When ever have we seen Trump talk 15 minutes? Never. Never.

Speaker 1 He'd go two hours if you give him a shot at it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And it was. No, you're right.
That's exactly what happened. They're going to give you, you know, they're going to kill you here

Speaker 1 after 15 minutes. Make it a 15-minute promotional speech and get out.
I think he made it 17. That's pretty much how far he got, 17 minutes.

Speaker 1 And it was, you know, babe, Biden sucks.

Speaker 1 We're great.

Speaker 1 We're great.

Speaker 1 And we're giving $1,776 as a bonus to everyone in the Department of War. Well, that was nice.
Yeah, that was cute. It was cute.
Yeah, cute. Cute.
$1,776. Get it? Yeah.

Speaker 1 And don't worry because everything's going to be great. Which do we get the CPI print today yet? Because that's the way I took it.
Is oh, inflation must be doing okay.

Speaker 1 Let me see.

Speaker 1 Let me see.

Speaker 1 I think it's around 2.93.

Speaker 1 So that's down. That's down.

Speaker 1 It's not that down. Economists see a lot of...
Okay. All right.
Hold on a second. 2.7 and 2.6.

Speaker 1 Well below expectations. He knew it.
He knew what was coming.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Well, that number is

Speaker 1 just a number. Of course, it's just an, it's all bull crap.
Money's not even real. The birds aren't real.
Everything's fake. Hello.
Yeah. But just stick to our script, man.
Okay.

Speaker 1 We just like, just roll with it. That's how, this is how this operates.
Inflation is below 3% for the first time. Trump did it.
He knew it. He knew that number was.

Speaker 1 I like the right at the beginning, Trump had the line, which always bothers me when he does this.

Speaker 1 He says that inflation under Biden was the worst in 40 years, maybe the worst in history. History.
Maybe. Which is like

Speaker 1 anybody who's older than,

Speaker 1 I don't know what, what was the late 70s, during the 70s when the market, stock market crashed in 69 69 during the 1970s.

Speaker 1 20%.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, I remember in 19,

Speaker 1 see, we bought a house in New Jersey in 1991,

Speaker 1 I think. No, maybe 1990.

Speaker 1 I was paying, I think, 10%

Speaker 1 interest on my mortgage.

Speaker 1 And that was low. And interest rates on mortgages went to

Speaker 1 18 to 21% by the end of the Carter administration. Yes.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, and I don't like that either. It's always like, ah, but when he says maybe,

Speaker 1 okay. That's yeah, but still he knows better.
He was there for the inflation of he was there. He was there for the crash of 32.
What are you talking about? He was there for all of it.

Speaker 1 He's been around.

Speaker 1 So he has to stop doing that. So then we get the

Speaker 1 just sticking with the North Sea Nexus for a moment. Then we get the blockade because we're not going to war, but what are we doing?

Speaker 30 Welcome back to live now from Fox.

Speaker 21 I'm Shauna Khalafi with some breaking news.

Speaker 1 I only chose her because she actually read part of his truth post.

Speaker 31 From President Trump, he is ordering a blockade of all sanctioned oil tankers into Venezuela, ramping up pressure on Maduro. This is a post from President Trump on Truth Social just a short while ago.

Speaker 31 He said, Venezuela is completely surrounded by the largest armada ever assembled in the history of South America.

Speaker 31 it will only get bigger and the shock to them will be like nothing they have ever seen before.

Speaker 31 Until such time, as they return to the United States of America, all of the oil, lands, and other assets that they previously stole from us.

Speaker 31 The illegitimate Maduro regime is using oil from the stolen oil fields to finance themselves, drug terrorism, human trafficking, murder, and kidnapping.

Speaker 31 For the theft of our assets and many other reasons, including terrorism, drug smuggling, and human trafficking, the Venezuelan regime has been designated a foreign terrorist organization.

Speaker 1 So, I just want to add some context to this because people forget things.

Speaker 1 And, you know, you do a show like this for almost two decades, you remember stuff, like the horrible things Michelle Reiner said. We'll talk about that later.

Speaker 1 10 years ago, Maduro nationalized our oil company's refinery that they had there,

Speaker 1 the drills, the rigs, the oil, everything. They took everything.

Speaker 1 That was Chavez who did that. Yes.
But we've been fighting that for 10 years, saying, hey, give us our stuff back. I think that was Chevron.

Speaker 1 And of course,

Speaker 1 just a little bit under a year ago, Maduro said, yeah, we're taking Esquibo, the very oil-rich

Speaker 1 segment of Guiana. and they're saying, Hey, this is ours, but of course, it's not because

Speaker 1 the licenses and

Speaker 1 the quote-unquote ownership of the oil is for Exxon.

Speaker 1 So, when he says, Give me back our oil, land, and other assets, yeah, that's absolutely true, but people forget this.

Speaker 1 Meanwhile, play this clip: UN sides with Venezuela. Yeah,

Speaker 1 this is good.

Speaker 32 The UN Secretary General has called for the de-escalation of tensions between the U.S. and Venezuela.
Antonio Guterres made the comment after a phone call with President Maduro.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, they're very forgetful. But of course, he called them out

Speaker 1 in the national strategic

Speaker 1 security document saying we're not listening to global organizations anymore. I think they take that to heart.
That's you, people.

Speaker 1 And then,

Speaker 1 you know, just to stick with it, you know,

Speaker 1 we've got to get Mexico. We've got to get those guys.

Speaker 1 We've got to anywhere there's British money, we've got to cut it off.

Speaker 34 That's why today I'm taking one more step to protect Americans from the scourge of deadly fentanyl into our country.

Speaker 34 With this historic executive order I will sign today, we're formally classifying fentanyl as a weapon of mass destruction, which is what it is. No bomb does what this is doing.

Speaker 34 200,000 to 300,000 people die every year that we know of.

Speaker 34 So we're formally classifying fentanyl as a weapon of mass destruction.

Speaker 1 Ah, he loves saying that. Let's hear the two sides of the argument.
First from Fox News.

Speaker 2 That's why today.

Speaker 1 Oops.

Speaker 17 Fentanyl has been a major problem in the United States. Not only the illegal flow of it into the country, but another concern that isn't mentioned as much.

Speaker 17 Using the substance in some sort of weapon, the Trump administration is now classifying this stuff as an actual weapon of mass destruction. Will that be enough to stop it?

Speaker 17 When you're working in the Department of Defense on weapons of mass destruction, was there any evidence of that possibly happening or any sort of group getting the capability to happen?

Speaker 17 That's the first time I've heard of something like that.

Speaker 24 Yeah, well, John, the example actually, there is a real world example. In 2002, Chechen terrorists seize a crowded theater and threatened to execute hundreds of hostages in Russia.

Speaker 24 Well, the security forces, the Russian security forces, they didn't want to engage with 40 well-armed terrorists.

Speaker 24 So what they decided to do was pump a fentanyl analog into the theater's ventilation system, which incapacitated nearly everyone inside the theater.

Speaker 24 They stormed the building, they shot unconscious terrorists, and they brought out a bunch of hostages. But in the aftermath, there were 130 hostages that died

Speaker 24 because of the fentanyl that was blasted through the ventilation system. And so that demonstrates the potency of it.

Speaker 24 And so that was an aerialized form. Subsequently, I should point out that the Chemical Weapons Convention has said, hey, you can't use aerialization of fentanyl for law enforcement purposes.

Speaker 24 But it has been done. So that's an example, John.

Speaker 1 Man, remember that? Do you remember that movie theater?

Speaker 1 But I didn't realize that many people died from the fentanyl. Oh, yeah.
And I like the idea that the Russians came in and they found the terrorists unconscious. Shot him.
Shot him.

Speaker 1 That's the way they do business.

Speaker 1 Okay. Let's go to CNN here.

Speaker 26 Earlier today, President Trump made an unprecedented declaration. He's taking what he calls a war on drugs and drug traffickers to the next level.

Speaker 26 According to the CDC, there were more than 80,000 overdose deaths in 2024 alone, and synthetic opioids, primarily fentanyl, continue to play a role in the majority of those deaths.

Speaker 26 All right, Ellie, to you, does this executive order give the president more power to do more than he's already doing that Congress has not actually approved these boat strikes.

Speaker 35 No, it is completely meaningless.

Speaker 1 It's symbolic. Federal law describes what a weapon of mass destruction is.

Speaker 35 Generally it has to be an incendiary device, something that blows up, something that shoots, something that disseminates poison, that kind of thing.

Speaker 35 If you commit a crime involving a weapon of mass destruction, there's very serious penalties involved. It could be life in prison, could be death if someone dies.

Speaker 1 But the president saying drugs or fentanyl are now weapons of mass destruction has zero, zero legal impact. It's up to judges.

Speaker 35 It's up to the parties on a case-by-case basis. It's an interesting argument.

Speaker 35 It doesn't meet the definition, but it's like if the president declared that a slingshot is a firearm, it doesn't make it a firearm for legal purposes.

Speaker 1 It would have to be Congress would have to change the statute.

Speaker 1 A judge couldn't just say fentanyl is a

Speaker 1 weapon because you said it was

Speaker 37 somehow could shoehorn it in

Speaker 37 the middle.

Speaker 1 This kind of reminds me of

Speaker 1 Taya saying that COVID-19 vaccine is actually a vaccine.

Speaker 1 Woo!

Speaker 1 Yes. Change the law.

Speaker 1 Oh, just changed Merriam-Webster. That's how you do it.
I thought this was an interesting case, so I looked up 18 U.S. Code 2332A.

Speaker 1 And a weapon of mass destruction is defined as... Destructive devices, any explosive, incendiary, or poison gas, including bombs, grenades, or rockets.

Speaker 1 Chemical weapons, any weapon designed or intended to cause death or serious bodily injury through the release, dissemination, or impact of toxic or poisonous chemicals.

Speaker 1 Biological weapons, any weapon involving a biological agent, toxin, or delivery system. And then there's radiological and nuclear weapons.

Speaker 1 I think you can make an argument that, seeing as 80,000 people a year die from it, that it is a weapon of mass destruction.

Speaker 1 I'm all in. I think that's uh and you know i think that's value

Speaker 1 it's it's very creative which brings us to the turtle island liberation front oh boy the six-week cycle is back four alleged members of an extremist group suspected of planning five bombing attacks on new year's eve in los angeles and orange counties are now in custody hey stop paying stopping

Speaker 1 This reminds me, wasn't there supposed to be some sort of an event last Monday that all these podcasters, the sneer and smear podcasts?

Speaker 1 The 9-11 style attacks, multi-cities. Yes.

Speaker 1 Wasn't that supposed to be like

Speaker 1 a couple days ago?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Are you still there?

Speaker 1 Yeah. Okay.
I'm still here.

Speaker 1 There's all these attacks. I guess it wasn't true.

Speaker 38 Zachary Page, Tina Chen Ting, and Dante Anthony Gaffield appeared in federal court Monday.

Speaker 8 These bombs were to blow up at the same time on midnight this New Year's Eve.

Speaker 38 The plan stated that the IEDs would be complex pipe bombs.

Speaker 8 It included instructions on how to manufacture the bombs and contained guidance on how to avoid leaving evidence behind that could be traced back to them.

Speaker 38 Video released by the FBI shows the four suspects on Friday at a remote campsite in the Lucerne Valley in the southern Mojave Desert.

Speaker 38 Investigators say the suspects brought bomb-making materials to the desert to rehearse their planned action.

Speaker 38 Investigators say they found PVC pipes, suspected potassium nitrate, charcoal, sulfur powder, and other elements. They were arrested shortly after this video was taken.

Speaker 8 The four subjects are members of a radical faction of the Turtle Island Liberation Front.

Speaker 1 At this point, they show video, a picture of a couple of hand-drawing drawn signs that say

Speaker 1 death to America.

Speaker 1 Turtle Island. Down with for fascism.
Well, let's first of all, let's make uh people need to know Turtle Island is some reference to the entire body of North America that was considered

Speaker 1 called Turtle Island by some indigenous folks back in some historic era.

Speaker 1 Well, if you saw the pictures of these people who were arrested, they look like the kind of people who would thank the indigenous people that we can stand here and make bombs on your city.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they have, of course, that's what you want. Yeah, that's the way it looks.

Speaker 1 And by the way, before you continue, I knew when I was an air pollution inspector, there was a guy that ran a chemical company in

Speaker 1 Oakland. I'm not going to mention his name, but he was a part of a big club of guys that would go to the Mojave Desert with explosives and blow shit up.

Speaker 1 They loved to, they would take, they would, and he had photos. He showed me this album because they like to take pictures of this.
Here's a 40, here's like a 55 Buick.

Speaker 1 Look at this, and here's after we blew it up with 10 sticks of dynamite.

Speaker 1 And so it was like a hobby. So it's not surprising that there was people out.
This is where you do it out in the middle of the nowhere Mojave Desert. Desert.
You blow stuff up.

Speaker 1 Well, there's a little bit more to it.

Speaker 1 There's a little bit more to the case.

Speaker 7 A violent, homegrown anti-government group.

Speaker 39 Carol and her co-defendant, Zachary Page, led the effort to obtain and build the bombs and to recruit others to join in their plot.

Speaker 38 The suspects have been charged with conspiracy in possession of an unregistered destructive device.

Speaker 38 Officials would not release any information about the target locations, only saying they are logistics companies engaged in interstate and commerce.

Speaker 39 These threats are sophisticated, organized campaigns of targeted intimidation.

Speaker 38 Again, the FBI saying that if these would have been successful, they would have been coordinated IED bombing attacks on New Year's Eve.

Speaker 1 Okay, so this is horse manure.

Speaker 1 And I'll tell you, I read the affidavit.

Speaker 1 It's all right there. So they've been tracking these people since December 6th,

Speaker 1 and they had a confidential human informant who was already in the group, already showing the feds the signal messages. They had

Speaker 1 an undercover law enforcement officer in the group. Yeah, that's what you do.
So then they all go out to the desert with PVC pipe, okay, plastic.

Speaker 1 They're going to put their own explosives together. Now, you've done this too.
You get

Speaker 1 some ammonium nitrate, you get some fertilizer, you get some charcoal, some sulfur.

Speaker 1 You've never done this, by the way. I have.
I have.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you sure you have. And I, too, when I went to the University of California, I was in chemical engineering.

Speaker 1 The first thing a professor, this came up in a conversation like when I was a freshman, he says, how many fingers you got?

Speaker 1 Is that the number you want to keep?

Speaker 1 And I'd never made an explosive. What we used to do back in the old country.

Speaker 1 When I lived in the farmland south of Amsterdam, is we get fertilizer and sugar, and then you put water and you make a water solution, you dip paper in it, and then you make flash paper. Flash paper.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, it was fantastic. Yeah, you can do that.
That's different. Well, but we also did some other stuff with pipes,

Speaker 1 obviously. But not PVC pipe, and they had no caps.
They literally had the affidavit says they had no caps, no cap for the PVC pipe. So what kind of bomb are you making?

Speaker 1 Well, they couldn't charge them on making a bomb. So instead, possession of an unregistered destructive device.
They didn't didn't register their device. This is bull crap.

Speaker 1 The thing that bothers me the most is the fear-mongering from the FBI.

Speaker 1 And, oh, we saved you, America. This would have been bad.
Oh, it would have been five buildings just blown to smithereens.

Speaker 1 Stay safe, stay vigilant. If you see something, say something.
This, I hate that. How about

Speaker 1 I do? I'm sick of it. How about you do your job?

Speaker 1 And because you're our government, you know, we appreciate it. It's great that you keep us safe.
And then just go home and have a beer. And then the next day, go after some other Turtle Island group.

Speaker 1 There's no reason to do this big, wow, stop the press is breaking news. We all could have been blown to smithereens, especially after all the Red-Green Alliance, ISIS, ISIS in America, Al-Qaeda,

Speaker 1 Muslims, Islam.

Speaker 1 It's sickening. It keeps everybody on edge during the happiest time of the year.

Speaker 1 What is it? Pissing into the wind is what you're doing here. I'm making people aware of why this is being done.
Oh, we've been bitching and moaning about this. It's never going to change.

Speaker 1 The FBI has got, they have their marching orders.

Speaker 1 There's a memo unless somebody goes into the FBI and changes the memo that set this up whatever many years ago because it's... Because it's good for business and it keeps people.

Speaker 1 It brings the newbies in. You can show them the ropes on how to infiltrate and do other things.
It's good business. Then you make a big fuss about it.

Speaker 1 So the newbies can say, so you point to the newbies. And look, look what happened.
This is the results of your good work. We got everybody all riled up.
See,

Speaker 1 this is the way you do it. It's how everybody

Speaker 1 is kept on edge and afraid and cowering and

Speaker 1 suspicious of each other. It sucks.
Yeah, I know you're all in, but I'm against it.

Speaker 1 Hey, I'm a podcaster. I'm all in.
I can stink my mind.

Speaker 1 Egyptian airplanes. Come on, man.

Speaker 1 Well, that brings us to a Candace Owens clip. Oh, goodness.
Really? We've never had one before. I want to play the clip.
This explains a lot. Okay.

Speaker 1 Let me see.

Speaker 13 I know all you guys want to know what happened during my meeting with Erica. So here it goes.
We met in Nashville because I didn't want to fly anywhere and have my plane shut down by Israel.

Speaker 13 So I told her to come here instead. She gets here, and first thing she does is she gives me some homemade cookies.
And I'm like, bitch, I ain't eating those poisoned chocolate chip cookies.

Speaker 13 She tried to poison me. Anyway, I'm still alive after almost dying from the poisoned Israeli cookies and we start talking.
Then you're not going to believe what happened next.

Speaker 13 The waiter asks us if we want something to drink, but he's wearing the Star of David. So I'm like, I ain't about to drink no poisons lemonade from you, you Mossad agent.

Speaker 13 So anyway, I almost almost die again from Israeli lemonade poisoning and Erica is like I'll just have some water please which is obviously code for you better kill this bitch right now am I right so we talk and we talk and she tells me I'm acting crazy or whatever so I asked her to show me pictures of her of when she was younger and she's like why so I'm like oh my god she doesn't have any so I just discovered she's actually a man and I'm now talking to this man who is probably an Israeli spy sent here to kill me.

Speaker 13 So, I just get up, I go to the bathroom, I dig a hole under the shitter like El Chapo, and I finally made it back to tell you guys the story and get paid millions by YouTube to keep you guys stupid and against Trump and turning point because I'm just a piece of shit like that.

Speaker 13 Anyway, thank you for your views, retards.

Speaker 1 That's not bad. That's that AI is pretty good.

Speaker 1 The real thing is almost as nutty.

Speaker 13 Okay, ladies and gentlemen, get ready. I am telling you, get ready.
We have an explosive episode today. Actually, I should say it's a non-explosive episode, and you'll see why.

Speaker 13 We're going to jump right into this because after yesterday's episode, we were contacted by a variety of people with information.

Speaker 13 And it's time to state unequivocally that the steel neck quotation did not come from the surgeon. Okay, not only that, but it's odd that federal agents were, I would say, too involved at the hospital.

Speaker 13 When I tell you this story, your jaw is going to hit the floor. We also have never before seen photos of the vehicle.

Speaker 13 I know I sound like a Fed here that Charlie was transported in to the hospital when they were trying to save his life. I'm telling you, my perspective is that all of these leads are ramping up.

Speaker 13 The reason for that is because the

Speaker 13 general public is actually not receptive to to what is very clearly a military-grade psychological operation, complete with influencers and botted activity on social media.

Speaker 43 We're so let down, it's over. I'm never watching this show ever again.
Candace took money.

Speaker 13 The people can see what you're doing, feds. They can see it.

Speaker 21 I can see it.

Speaker 13 And now we're going to, you know, got to go max today. Welcome back to Candace.

Speaker 1 So, my takeaway from this, which was not AI,

Speaker 1 is that so the feds have mounted

Speaker 1 a military-grade psychological operation against Candace, and bots and influencers are saying she sucks.

Speaker 1 That's the takeaway from that.

Speaker 1 That AI that I played,

Speaker 1 I think it's part of the operation. Oh, of course it is.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, I see it the same way.

Speaker 1 There's an op

Speaker 1 to discredit and get rid of Candace Owens to put her, not kill her, as she likes to

Speaker 1 have her

Speaker 1 kids. But to just

Speaker 1 to sideline her

Speaker 1 permanently.

Speaker 1 And I think Tucker knows this because he doesn't want to get sidelined.

Speaker 2 This is so interesting.

Speaker 1 I think Tucker's in on a lot of this stuff. I don't think he can be sidelined.

Speaker 1 Well, I don't trust him.

Speaker 1 Listen to this. Because this is the second time he's done this.
And he did like an eight-minute interview with the Doha Morning Show, whatever it was.

Speaker 1 It's Doha this morning, everybody. Welcome to the desert.
How are you doing? How's your oil stocks?

Speaker 1 Listen to what he says about Trump and this, but I left this beginning in because the lady says something kind of interesting.

Speaker 40 Do you feel

Speaker 44 you made quite a few trips here?

Speaker 1 He made quite a few trips here?

Speaker 1 Quite a few trips. Does Tucker visit Doha a lot to get his checks?

Speaker 44 Has it something changed in the way you feel in the last couple of years? Do you feel?

Speaker 45 I feel that I'm 56. My children are grown.
I have an obligation from my perspective to tell the truth.

Speaker 45 In decency and kindness, by the way, telling the truth does not mean attacking people or pointing out their

Speaker 45 obvious sins. No, telling the truth means telling the truth and loved.

Speaker 1 What do you think is true?

Speaker 7 By the way, I've been been wrong many times.

Speaker 45 I supported the Iraq War, okay? I've been wrong.

Speaker 45 And I know that I've been wrong, and I know that I will be wrong again. So I'm not claiming I have a monopoly on the truth.

Speaker 45 What I'm saying is, as an American citizen, I have a right to say what I think, and I'm going to.

Speaker 1 Period. Period.
He always, he does that a lot.

Speaker 1 I'm an American citizen. I have the right to say what I feel like I want to say, and that's it.
I'm an American citizen. Period.

Speaker 44 How could this fight to reshape the American right possibly define how the U.S. engages with the Middle East? Could it potentially change everything?

Speaker 45 The President of the United States recently sided in public with an Arab country over Israel. Israel bombed Doha.
Qatar is one of our most important allies in the region.

Speaker 45 Our largest air base is in this country, Qatar. Qatar hosts Hamas at the request of the United States government and the Israeli government for more than 10 years.

Speaker 45 And Israel bombed a meeting here in Qatar in order to short-circuit Donald Trump's peace process.

Speaker 1 This was an attack, not just on Qatar, but on America.

Speaker 45 Donald Trump saw it that way. He said he saw it that way, and he forced the Israelis to apologize to the government of Qatar.

Speaker 1 Nothing like that has ever happened.

Speaker 45 There's never been a situation where the U.S. president publicly took the side of an Arab country over Israel.
That just happened. That is a huge change.

Speaker 45 That is a seminal change. What are its long-term effects? I can only guess, but we've never seen that before.

Speaker 1 This seems to be the message he wants to convey. So that kind of gives me pause as to where is he in this big podcaster thing.

Speaker 1 It also brings to mind this call that Trump brings Netanyahu into the Oval Office or the meeting, wherever they do that meeting, and he has Benjamin Yetan Yetanah.

Speaker 1 Hey, hey, he signs your checks, bro. You better get his name right.

Speaker 1 So he brings him in and then humiliates him in public, makes him make a public phone call to the Qataris apologizing for the bombing. This is bull crap.
This whole thing was rigged.

Speaker 1 It was set up for whatever reason to make Trump a certain, give him a certain gravity toss with the Arabs and who knows what else. But

Speaker 1 this is nonsense if we are to believe it. Because this would never really happen.

Speaker 1 All of this that is happening, and it really...

Speaker 1 It has been going on for a while. Nick Fuentes, I was aware of him years ago.

Speaker 1 And, I, and, you know, I know that you think he's a pro, and I'm not going to disagree. I cannot disagree with you on that.
But this, he's something else. He is a punk rock podcaster.

Speaker 1 And I say this because

Speaker 1 everything

Speaker 1 he does is like punk rock. Punk rock, you know, the Sex Pistols, you know, I know exactly what you mean.
Screw the queen, you know,

Speaker 1 kicking down.

Speaker 1 Believe it or not, I was a punk rock fan during the era of the

Speaker 1 number of these bands.

Speaker 1 oh yeah what what was your favorite punk rock band oh it was the it was the one band that damn i can think of the name in a second peter paul and mary yes peter paul and mary i especially like mary when she ripped off her bra

Speaker 1 well you had the ramones you had uh the sex pistols you had um

Speaker 1 well there you go there's my knowledge no dude you don't have many no there's one group that was i really thought was fantastic but i had i'd have to think about it anyway it's a long

Speaker 1 but he's a punk rock kid, and what he's doing is he's going against what was the one thing you could never say. Israel no good, Jews no good.
Boom, there's Fuentes.

Speaker 1 I want to be with white people, not with black people. Boom, Fuentes.
Women suck. Boom, Fuentes.
It's punk rock podcasting. And I'm getting it now because

Speaker 1 this is all part of audience capture. And I was watching Dave Smith, Smith, part of the problem, because I do watch this stuff.
You know, I try to stay informed. I try to figure out what is going on.

Speaker 1 Why are these people so strange to me? Because, you know, we're boomers. I'm not officially.
I'm Gen X, face of Gen X.

Speaker 1 Come on.

Speaker 1 Dave Smith actually

Speaker 1 admitted it. He admitted audience capture.

Speaker 1 And here it is. You know, like a lot of us.
are kind of, you know, me and you and I think Candace and Tucker and

Speaker 1 like a lot of other people, essentially, we,

Speaker 1 the relationship here is us and the audience. We got to make something that the audience likes and then we do well.
And if we make something the audience doesn't like, it won't do as well.

Speaker 1 There you go. That's exactly what you're doing.

Speaker 1 So if the audience says, yeah, Israel bad, you're going to do that. I don't even know if it's based on principles with these people.

Speaker 1 It's audience capture. And we don't do that.
We don't do it. Yeah.
We don't. No, we don't.
We don't. We don't.
We don't bother.

Speaker 1 Well, it takes us out of our

Speaker 1 strike zone is deconstructing the media, looking for little tidbits like using the word target instead of subject and stuff like that. And that fascinates everybody at all times.

Speaker 1 But we're not a, like I used it in the newsletter, this phrase I like, which is the sneer and smear type of podcast and the grievance type of podcast that just is designed to get audience just to do audience capture.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 we don't qualify in either one of those categories, that's for sure. Well, we also don't count on YouTube money.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we don't count on YouTube money. We don't need any of that.

Speaker 1 We want to actually give you our opinions, which are often counter to the popular narrative.

Speaker 1 And people get really upset, really upset. Even just me calling Dave Smith, I called him out.
Hey, John, we called out Dave Smith. Woo!

Speaker 1 That will get people upset.

Speaker 1 It's amazing. And we're like, okay, be upset then.
It's fine.

Speaker 1 I'm not donating. Okay.

Speaker 1 They don't donate. People who say that never donate anyway.
No, that's true.

Speaker 1 As we speak.

Speaker 1 The European Commission, all 27 heads of the states of the European Union are locked in in a room, and they're not coming out until they have a deal,

Speaker 1 until they have a deal about stealing the Russian money and giving that to Ukraine.

Speaker 1 I have a couple of clips myself.

Speaker 1 Okay, yeah, I'd love to hear your clips.

Speaker 2 Let's do your clips first.

Speaker 1 You weren't prepared. Okay.
No, I wasn't prepared because you jumped right into these topics. You said I have a couple clips.
And when you say that, I figure you got clips.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 continue with your presentation

Speaker 1 as you figure out your clips. Here is

Speaker 1 the, I think she's the foreign minister, Kalas.

Speaker 1 And she went in front of the microphones. You know, people are coming out from time to time from the meeting, like, it's a tough meeting.

Speaker 1 You know, you got to do stuff. And it looks like

Speaker 1 we have appeased Brussels or Belgium's issues with stealing the money and letting them take the wrap for it.

Speaker 46 Then, of course, we have the discussions on the reparations loan.

Speaker 46 Now, the proposals that we have been working on also addressing Belgium's concerns, I think to go for the legislative proposal means that we all take the risk because it's a European proposal, so the risk and the burden is shared equally.

Speaker 46 So I think the issues that Belgium has raised we have also addressed, so I hope that we get this over the finishing line.

Speaker 46 Putin is banking and finishing line,

Speaker 46 we shouldn't shouldn't give them that. I understand Belgium is under a lot of pressure from

Speaker 46 Russia,

Speaker 46 from European countries, but also from the United States. In order to get off that pressure, actually we should have a European proposal.
Then Belgium will just abide by the law and

Speaker 46 whoever has any concerns can

Speaker 46 go to court against the European Union. But I think the fundamental issue is that Russia is causing the damage in Ukraine, so they should also be responsible for the reparations.

Speaker 46 And this reparations loan is based on that very idea.

Speaker 1 So let me get this straight. The very Russia that just last week you were saying and all nodding in agreement to NATO's Secretary General Mark Rutte,

Speaker 1 Russia sees us as next, we're next, get under your beds, get your three-day emergency kits ready. Now all of a sudden, you're saying, Well, you can just sue all of us then in the European Union card.

Speaker 1 Go ahead and sue us. What is it? Are you afraid that they're going to come and bomb you for their money that you stole, or do you think they're just going to file a lawsuit? That's a good point.

Speaker 1 It's ridiculous. I think the clips I'm referring to are these Ukraine clips, and I have three of them.
I want to because let me play one more money clip. Yeah,

Speaker 1 so

Speaker 1 this is Kier Starmer, just to show you that

Speaker 1 we're tough guys here. We're going to steal some Russian money.
Watch me do it.

Speaker 47 The United Kingdom issued a license to allow the funds from the sale of Chelsea Football Club to be transferred to humanitarian causes in Ukraine.

Speaker 47 Russian oligarch Roman Abramovich sold Chelsea in 2022 under pressure from the British government. The funds from the sale have since then been frozen.

Speaker 47 UK's Prime Minister Keir Starmer is now allowing him to use the money, but only to help Ukraine.

Speaker 47 Under the new license, proceeds must be directed to humanitarian causes in Ukraine, but future gains may be spent more broadly on victims of conflicts worldwide.

Speaker 47 The UK sanctioned Dabramovich in a crackdown on Russian oligarchs after Russia's full-scale invasion of Ukraine in 2022, which had triggered the rushed sale of the English Premier League football club.

Speaker 47 The UK government has now promised to establish a foundation to disperse the funds, headed by the former head of UNICEF UK.

Speaker 1 This is the worst idea ever.

Speaker 1 I have three better clips than that from the BBC. Okay.
The Obramovich series. This is not the Ukraine ones.

Speaker 1 Since you changed it kind of to Abramovich, because this has to be discussed. You're right.
This is

Speaker 1 Obramovich will kill you. He will kill you.
Well, not only that, but it's like at the same time,

Speaker 1 if you're going to let the guy into the country to begin with to invest in stuff,

Speaker 1 spend his money, and

Speaker 1 then you force him to sell his stuff, and then you steal his money. Are you kidding me? $3 billion worth.
That's insane.

Speaker 1 So here we go.

Speaker 1 It's called the Abramovich

Speaker 1 fiasco.

Speaker 48 The British government is stepping up pressure on the Russian oligarch and former Chelsea owner Roman Abramovich.

Speaker 1 So if you steal something from the store, you can just say, I'm stepping up pressure on your store.

Speaker 1 This is very interesting.

Speaker 48 Over a financial pledge he made when he was forced to sell the football club. Back in 2022, Mr.

Speaker 48 Abramovich promised all the money he made from the sale would be used to benefit victims of the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

Speaker 48 But the funds still haven't been released because of a disagreement on how they should be used. Now the government is threatening to take legal action against him.

Speaker 48 This was Prime Minister Keir Starmer speaking in Parliament.

Speaker 37 My message to Abramovich is this. The clock is ticking.

Speaker 1 Honour the commitment that you made and pay up now.

Speaker 37 And if you don't, we're prepared to go to court so every penny reaches those whose lives have been torn apart by Putin's illegal war.

Speaker 1 Yes, we need to buy more homes in Europe.

Speaker 1 Take his money. Wow.
It's astonishing to me they're going to steal this guy's money.

Speaker 1 I think what he was referring to is if he made any profit on the sale, not all the money, which is what they're trying to go for.

Speaker 1 They're just trying to go for some money.

Speaker 1 How much money you got? It's now ours.

Speaker 1 And we're going to spend it over here

Speaker 1 because you, Abramovich, the owner of the Chelsea Football Club,

Speaker 1 you are responsible for Ukraine. Yeah?

Speaker 1 Anyway, so part two.

Speaker 48 Our political correspondent, Harry Farley, has been telling me more about the background to this row and why it's gone on for so long.

Speaker 51 When Roman Abramovich sold Chelsea Football Club, he made £2.5 billion,

Speaker 1 but that was frozen.

Speaker 51 That money was frozen in the UK because of British sanctions on Russian business people and representatives around the world. And so that money is frozen.

Speaker 49 It is stuck.

Speaker 51 Roman Abramovich cannot access it himself. And he previously said he would be happy for that money to be used for all victims of the war.

Speaker 51 Now, that is something that the British government doesn't agree with. It wants that money to be used for humanitarian purposes for Ukrainian victims of the war.
And they're concerned that Mr.

Speaker 51 Abramovich wants it to go to both sides, so meaning Russians could also benefit. That is the essence of the dispute.
But because this money is technically still Mr.

Speaker 51 Abramovich's, even though he cannot access it, there has been this stalemate ever since 2022. And this is really the latest situation of the government stepping up its pressure on Mr.

Speaker 51 Abramovich, showing signs of irritation. But of course, irritation in itself doesn't release that money.

Speaker 48 Yeah, I mean, is there any indication that Roman Abramovich is actually going to give this money over to Ukraine?

Speaker 51 Not at the moment, to be honest. I mean, the UK government is threatening legal action.
The UK government is saying that Mr. Obramovich needs to honour that commitment that he made.

Speaker 51 They're saying that they'd be prepared to take this to court. And the next steps, as it were, is Mr.

Speaker 51 Obramovich has 90 days to respond, and after which the UK government could at that point take this to court. We haven't actually heard from Mr.

Speaker 51 Obramovich or his representatives today, so we don't know if there is any shift in his position.

Speaker 51 But at the moment, at least, this is just threats and I suppose a toughening of language from British ministers.

Speaker 1 Hold on a second. So did they take it or not? It sounded like

Speaker 1 Starmer was saying, we're taking your money, and it's done.

Speaker 1 And this makes it sound like there's still some mechanisms.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 in other words, they haven't taken it yet. Let's play the last part.
This is from yesterday.

Speaker 48 And of course, there's about to be an EU summit where leaders are going to be urged to agree to use Russia's frozen assets to give money to Ukraine and give them a huge loan.

Speaker 51 Yeah, there is going to be exactly that summit and there was over the weekend, towards the end of last week, some pretty confident noises coming from people I was speaking to in

Speaker 51 government officials believing that this could be a real moment and a real turning point where those frozen Russian assets across Europe, most of which are actually held in Belgium, could be released and given to Ukraine.

Speaker 51 There is less optimism now, I am sensing. We'll find out the details tomorrow.
But certainly, the sort of the excitement, this is going to be a big breakthrough.

Speaker 49 Obviously, this is something that's been talked about for months and months.

Speaker 51 The excitement that tomorrow could be a breakthrough, I think, is waning slightly, and there seems to be a little bit more opposition and hesitation because

Speaker 51 it is legally very complicated to release these frozen assets and spend them on fighting, on giving them to Ukraine in order to fight Russia.

Speaker 51 The legal complexity is one aspect, and there is also political concern that Russia could then sue the countries who are holding these funds.

Speaker 1 Again, what happened to he's going to come and invade us and kill us?

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, he can point. He can sue us.

Speaker 1 But what got me on that clip was the fact that they're excited about stealing the money. Yes, very excited.
Oh,

Speaker 1 we're going to steal the money. This is great.
It makes you feel good, makes you feel like a man. This shows you what a bunch of corrupt pricks are running these countries in Europe.

Speaker 1 They're criminals. Yes.
Hello. Gambling.

Speaker 1 Don't look at our capital. There's no criminals there.

Speaker 1 Never. Never happened.
Let's listen. Okay, so I can play my.
I got my three Ukraine clips. I think it would be the following.

Speaker 1 I can't talk about this in the after this.

Speaker 1 This is the

Speaker 1 Ukraine update. This is a BBC clip.

Speaker 32 Ukraine's President Zelensky is called on allies to show Russia that it's pointless to continue with its war.

Speaker 1 Pointless.

Speaker 1 He's speaking ahead of a European leaders' meeting

Speaker 32 Vladimir Putin has again insisted he will achieve all of his expansionist goals in Ukraine. He said Russia would liberate what he called its historic lands by military force or diplomacy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, this is kind of a meme in the British

Speaker 1 circles is expansionist goals.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. Expansionist revisionists, you know.

Speaker 1 The way it's supposedly Russian, you know,

Speaker 1 part of early Russia, people have to remember that where was modern Russia founded? Yes, you mentioned that in the last show. Is it Kiev? Or, I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 Kiev!

Speaker 1 I want to chicken Kiev.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 that's where Modern Russia was founded in Kyiv. And so now you're just Putin's puppet talking about revisionists.

Speaker 1 Let's go with the Ukraine finale.

Speaker 48 Over recent months and days, European leaders have been warning that Russia poses a threat to the security of Europe, despite ongoing peace negotiations in Ukraine.

Speaker 48 On Tuesday, European countries closest to Russia called on the EU to prioritize defending their borders.

Speaker 48 Today, Vladimir Putin dismissed that as hysteria, but he says Russia will will take Ukraine by military means unless Kiev and its allies do more to engage with U.S. peace proposals.

Speaker 48 Our Russia editor, Steve Rosenberg, sent this report from Moscow.

Speaker 4 Is Vladimir Putin ready for peace?

Speaker 51 Does he accept the need for compromise?

Speaker 4 It doesn't sound like it.

Speaker 4 President Putin told military chiefs that the goals of his special military operation would be achieved. Referring to Ukraine, Mr.

Speaker 4 Putin said, if the adversary and its foreign patrons do not want to have a substantive discussion,

Speaker 4 then Russia will liberate its historic lands on the battlefield. Historic lands? That is a reference to Ukrainian territory.

Speaker 1 Moscow claims to have annexed.

Speaker 1 They've forgotten their history, too, even when they're trying to make fun of it.

Speaker 1 And he says at the very end, the last three words, he says, claims to have annexed. Yes, claim.
claim. They didn't annex it.
They claim.

Speaker 1 Anytime, by the way, people out there, this is one of our deconstruction tips. The use of the word claims is loaded and bullcrap.
I mean,

Speaker 1 it should be he says, but the fact that he claims to have annexed means it's, you know, it's

Speaker 1 in the mind, in your brain, it puts in a notion that this is not true, or it's dubious, or the guy's a bad person, or what claims. So let's go to the second clip.

Speaker 4 He called for the expansion of a security buffer zone. In other words, to seize even more Ukrainian land.
His tone was defiant, belligerent, and regarding European leaders, abrasive.

Speaker 4 Everyone thought that in a short amount of time they could destroy Russia, President Putin said. And the European swine immediately joined the work of the previous U.S.

Speaker 4 administration in the hope of profiting from the collapse of Russia. Vladimir Putin claims, claims, claims, claims he does want peace.
But his comments suggest that's peace on his terms.

Speaker 4 Over nearly four years of war, his army has suffered huge losses on the battlefield. And yet, Mr.
Putin speaks positively about what has transpired.

Speaker 4 He claimed today that thanks to the special military operation, Russia had restored its status as a fully sovereign country.

Speaker 48 Steve Rosenberg. Yes, excellent.

Speaker 1 Jew. Okay.

Speaker 1 That's a good one. Yeah, claims, acclaims, acclaims, claims, claims.
I mean, this is terrible. These guys are no.
Well, there's a new player that has entered the field.

Speaker 1 Our new player is Blaise Florence

Speaker 1 Metrowelli, I think.

Speaker 1 She is the new head of MI6.

Speaker 1 And she's kind of cute, actually,

Speaker 1 in a spooky kind of way.

Speaker 1 What's your name again?

Speaker 1 Blaise, B-L-A-I-S-E, Florence Metrowelli, M-E-T-R-E-W-E-L-I. Just look up M-I-6 Chief.

Speaker 1 Interesting family background.

Speaker 1 Her dad, Konstantin Metruely, was born as Konstantin Dobrolsky, and he was the son of a Nazi collaborator who operated in Oblast, the Nazi-occupied Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic in 1943.

Speaker 1 So, do you think she has skin in the game? Just from a background.

Speaker 1 She looks like a spook. Are you kidding me? Yeah, she's a total spook.
But, you know, she's from the Nazi Party heritage.

Speaker 1 You know, of course, we can't, as Tucker would say, we don't punish children for what their parents did. No, of course not.

Speaker 1 But it is just interesting, interesting tidbit because maybe she heard around the Christmas tree.

Speaker 1 You know, like

Speaker 1 Putin bad, Russia bad, everybody bad.

Speaker 1 Hitler good. I don't know what she heard, but she came out and she did about an eight-minute statement and I pulled a couple of clips.

Speaker 27 I'm going to break with tradition and I won't give you a global threat tour, but I will focus here on Putin's Russia.

Speaker 1 Putin.

Speaker 27 We all continue to face the menace of an aggressive, expansionist, and revisionist Russia.

Speaker 1 There it is, expansionist and revisionist Russia, the scourge.

Speaker 27 Seeking to subjugate Ukraine and harass NATO.

Speaker 27 I find it harrowing that hundreds of thousands have died, with the toll mounting every day, because of Putin's historical distortions and his compromised desire for respect.

Speaker 27 He is dragging out negotiations and shifting the cost of war onto his own population. But Putin should be in no doubt.
Our support is enduring.

Speaker 27 The pressure we apply on Ukraine's behalf will be sustained because it is fundamental not just to European sovereignty and security but to global stability.

Speaker 1 Okay, so

Speaker 1 Miss New Spike, Spook, Spike, Spook,

Speaker 1 I don't know why she did this, but this turned into a recruitment video

Speaker 1 saying, you know, we need more people in the MI6. We need spooks and a very specific kind of spook.
And many

Speaker 1 of our trolls in the troll room qualify.

Speaker 27 Our world is being remade. And for the first time, we are all at the heart of it.
My service must now operate in this new context, too.

Speaker 27 Not just expert on hostile states, terrorism, proliferation, and more, but also fluent in technology, able to anticipate the second and third-order effects of advances that reshape the world in minutes, not months.

Speaker 27 And as China will be a central part of the global transformation taking place this century, it's essential that we, as MI6, continue to inform the government's understanding of China's rise and the implications for UK national security.

Speaker 27 Mastery of technology will infuse everything we do, not just in our labs, but in the field, in our tradecraft, and even more importantly, in the mindset of every officer.

Speaker 27 We will become as comfortable with lines of code as we are with human sources, as fluent in Python as we are in multiple other languages.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 What? Python?

Speaker 1 Hey, ma'am, get a clue, girl. Rust is the new language.
What are you talking about? Python.

Speaker 1 Python, Python, Python. Python.
There's fluent in code. We need to have, we need to speak Python.

Speaker 27 We'll become as comfortable with lines of code as we are with human sources, as fluent in Python as we are in multiple other languages.

Speaker 27 Under my leadership, MI6 will continue to attract Britain's best.

Speaker 1 Hey, I'm a vibe coder in Python. Does that count? And most creative lines.

Speaker 1 We need vibe coders at MI6, people.

Speaker 27 Linguists and data scientists, case officers and engineers, behavioral experts and technologists. We need people who walk in the shoes and get in the heads of our adversaries.

Speaker 27 We need people who think differently, challenge assumptions, and act decisively. All can thrive and make a difference at MI6.

Speaker 1 Call 1-800-Python MI6.

Speaker 1 I just found that to be odd that she's recruiting Python programmers. Python.
Python.

Speaker 1 And then listen to this 22 seconds and tell me if you think she's talking about the CIA.

Speaker 27 So we will work with our agents and we will continue to engage directly and with respect with states and organizations currently working against us.

Speaker 27 Away from the glare of the media, we will use MI6's convening power wherever we can to make a material difference, bringing parties together to diffuse tensions.

Speaker 52 What do you think?

Speaker 1 When she said parties working against us? Yeah.

Speaker 1 I don't know if that they're.

Speaker 1 She ends it with to end tensions.

Speaker 1 Well, of course there's tension. We all know what you're doing.

Speaker 1 I have to believe that they're clueless about this.

Speaker 1 And the reason I say, so I had a chat with the Telegraph.

Speaker 1 MI6 is doing most of the psyops on Candace Owens. Yeah, but I don't think that they're clued into.

Speaker 1 I'm not convinced that they're completely clued in with what Trump's up to.

Speaker 1 Really? They're that dumb?

Speaker 1 Well, this brings me to a conversation I had with our columnist buddy at The Telegraph, which is UK's most honest newspaper. I had a chat with Orlovsky.

Speaker 1 Formerly, wasn't he with the register before? Yeah, he was a register guy.

Speaker 1 And he said that he admires the

Speaker 1 Nexus arguments that we've been making. He actually listens to the show.
Oh, hey, Orlowski, Andrew, how are you doing, buddy?

Speaker 1 And so he says, he says, but he says that they're so stupid that there's no way that this is, you know, they're just too dumb to do anything.

Speaker 1 He says, you have no idea how stupid the ruling classes are here. And I said, yeah, well, the fact that we can figure out what they're up to shows how stupid they are.

Speaker 1 I think it's just a confirmation that we're right. Yeah.
And the counter-argument to him was he couldn't.

Speaker 1 He couldn't counter it. He couldn't.
Of course he can't. Because so it's like, you know, so we have to assume there's a stupidity level and a naivete that's at some point.
Well,

Speaker 1 and this woman doesn't look like a brainiac and she says Python.

Speaker 1 You made my point.

Speaker 1 If you're talking, we need Python, which may somehow be related to AI. Someone told her, all this AI stuff, it's all written in Python.
So we need Python coders.

Speaker 1 Okay, I'll do a call up for Python coders. Fine.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'll get my,

Speaker 1 what's that thing called?

Speaker 1 My pie charm IDE. I'll get that all rocking.
Yeah, I'm ready. I'm ready, both.

Speaker 2 Who are we hitting first?

Speaker 15 Who's the first adversary?

Speaker 1 On the other side of the equation is

Speaker 1 UK Air Chief Marshal. I think that means he's in charge of the Air Force.

Speaker 1 I have no idea. Probably.

Speaker 1 This guy's name is Sir Richard Knighton. And here's what he said.

Speaker 50 Perhaps the most obvious impact on all of us will be the cost of building this resilience. Sons and daughters, colleagues, veterans will all have a part to play

Speaker 50 to build, to serve, and if necessary, to fight.

Speaker 50 And more families will know what sacrifice for our nation means.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, that's going over real big in England. What?

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 You want us to fight who?

Speaker 1 Fight what?

Speaker 1 What? War? Huh?

Speaker 1 No, no, no, no, no, son. We're not going to do that.
There's not a single British kid who wants to do this.

Speaker 1 Remember when this kicked off? There are all these TikTok videos. I'm not fighting.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to fight. I got other things to do.
And in Germany, where they just reinstated the registration for voluntary service, whoa, the kids there aren't having it either.

Speaker 50 Early December in Berlin, instead of being in class, thousands of young Germans are out on the streets protesting the return of military service.

Speaker 50 For this generation, about to reach adulthood, the countdown has already started. From January onwards, young men like Ruben and Ivar must register for potential military service.

Speaker 1 I think it's outrageous that I can't even decide for myself whether I'm going to the front or not.

Speaker 54 Young people were hit the hardest by COVID-19.

Speaker 1 Little boy

Speaker 1 as a sauerkraut kid.

Speaker 54 Young people were hit the hardest by COVID-19 and by all sorts of state decisions.

Speaker 1 And now, on top of that, they want to send us to war. It's nonsense.

Speaker 50 Berlin has voted to reintroduce voluntary military service, but with a clause that worries youngsters most. If recruitment numbers fall short, conscription becomes compulsory again.

Speaker 50 Across the country, it's all hands to the pumps.

Speaker 1 Anti-conscription committees have sprung up, like here in Munich.

Speaker 53 My sign says, form committees. Say no to mobilization for war.

Speaker 54 For Tim and his friends, who stage agit prop events and rallies, stopping remilitarization is now urgent.

Speaker 3 I don't want Germany to be involved in another war or even to be able to start one. That's exactly where this return, or rather reactivation, of conscription will lead.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, they're not like American kids.

Speaker 1 I'm gonna get them ragheads. Talheads, here we come.
Watch out, Saddam.

Speaker 1 No, I was like, uh-uh.

Speaker 1 It's ridiculous.

Speaker 1 I can't believe it. They want me to go fight.
I can't even choose if I want to die.

Speaker 1 I can't even choose where I want to go. Yeah.
Noodle boy.

Speaker 1 Noodle boy. No, sour crowd kid.
That's the new one. That's the German noodle boy.
Sour crowd boy. Sour crowd kid.
That's what he is.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, well, no one, no one. But Europe, see, this is the thing.
The Europeans don't even read. First of all, everybody's tuned out.
No one's listening to this nonsense.

Speaker 1 All they know is there's Rovers and Rolls, Bentleys, and high-end vehicles parked on sidewalks with Ukrainian license plates occupying homes that they can't rent.

Speaker 1 That's what the kids care about because that's the reality of the situation. And they're sick of that.
Like, eh, what is this? And they're tuned out. They're not listening to all this nonsense.

Speaker 1 It's like,

Speaker 1 I can't even get a home to rent if I want one. So they're not listening.
And now all of of a sudden, it's like, hey, all that stuff you haven't been paying attention to? Well, now you got to go.

Speaker 1 Cannon fodder.

Speaker 1 Yes. Cannon fodder.
Cannon fodder.

Speaker 1 Realize it, yeah. So it's sad.
It's sad, sad, sad. And I just don't see a rosy future for the European Union.

Speaker 1 Just doesn't see them. Well, I never saw a rosy future for them personally.
Well, the whole thing was kind of a strange idea to begin with, but yeah.

Speaker 1 It was done, and it was only done to fight us.

Speaker 1 The whole reason for the European Union from the get-go was to create an economic system that

Speaker 1 had less problems with moving goods in between countries and being able to consolidate an operation that can compete with the United States.

Speaker 1 And it turns out that China was the real problem. Yes.
And now they're doing the Mercure Agreement, I think it's called Mercure,

Speaker 1 where they're opening up trade with some South American countries, and all the farmers are like, what?

Speaker 1 Those guys can use fertilizer, we can't. They can shoot up their cattle with anything that we can't.
And so now we're going to be importing food from other countries.

Speaker 1 They're truly nuts. It's bad.
Christina's going to be arriving here. She'll be here about 6.30 tonight.
I'm going to work on these kids for a week. Don't go back.
Don't go back.

Speaker 1 They're going to go back anyway. That's my guess.

Speaker 1 We'll see. But there'll be, you know.

Speaker 1 Okay, I got a couple of clips that go to domestic stuff. I want to get the Reiner stuff out of the way.
We didn't talk about it in the last show. We didn't want to.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 But more importantly is this Brown shooting. Yes.
Yes.

Speaker 1 And I thought from the get-go that it was a targeted shooting. of the Republican girl.

Speaker 1 I don't know anything about the Republican girl.

Speaker 1 Two people died. One of them was the head of the

Speaker 1 vice president of the Republican Club at Brown University. And there's probably five Republicans at Brown University.

Speaker 1 And none of them are my family members because all my cousins went to Brown. Well, it's all Democrats and all liberals.
It's all progressives now.

Speaker 1 They're super tards, all of them. I love them, but they're tards.

Speaker 1 So you end up with this woman killed, and so

Speaker 1 it seemed like a targeted killing.

Speaker 1 And there's a room full of 20 to 60 people. And the guy comes in and yells something and then shoots her.
And then some other guy gets shot and then he peppers the place and nicks 11 other people.

Speaker 1 And not one person can say what he said.

Speaker 1 I know what he said. Okay, let's go.
11 people. Kill the Republican fascist.
Wait a minute. Kill the Republican fascists is what he said.
Is that what he said? That's my guess. Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 Now, this is this is they still have to set it up. This is Jesse Waters, and he brought on a guy who is a

Speaker 1 first he gives a little overview of the incompetence of the investigation, and then he brings in a guy who, part two, the second clip, brings in a guy who's a profiler. So part two.

Speaker 36 11 people shot, two dead. One was like the most prominent Republican on campus.

Speaker 1 And we don't have any answers or videos or pictures.

Speaker 36 We don't know what he shouted, if he had an accomplice, the size of his gun, the number of witnesses, where he is, how he got out.

Speaker 36 And the people trying to ask questions are getting told, shut up by the Rhode Island Senator.

Speaker 1 For people who have no idea what they're talking about to offer their stupid and ill-informed views about what happened all over the internet.

Speaker 1 So I would please, just from a law enforcement perspective, ask anyone who sees this to just shut up.

Speaker 36 They're asking for the public's help, but they're telling us to shut up. They arrested the wrong guy, got no video, and didn't even know if the Brown cop cars had dash cams.

Speaker 2 They're in no position to lecture anybody.

Speaker 36 This is completely unacceptable, the whole thing.

Speaker 1 Nah, obvious mossad.

Speaker 1 So they bring this guy in, and this is, this just makes my point, but

Speaker 1 this is going on. The incompetence of this investigation and this guy, the chief of police, is Perez character.
The whole thing is hilarious as far as I'm concerned.

Speaker 1 But this is the part that this, I'm absolutely convinced that this

Speaker 1 was a hit job on this woman.

Speaker 36 Retired FBI criminal profile, James Fitzgerald. Do you have a theory on this case? Was this a crime of opportunity? This was a soft target.
Guy goes in, comes out, and that's it.

Speaker 36 Kind of mad at the school? Or was he going in there to kill a specific individual?

Speaker 23 Yeah, in my earliest media hit on Monday morning, that's what I said. And as soon as I saw saw the name of Ms.
Cook, who was the vice president of the Republican Club, I just couldn't rule that out.

Speaker 23 I look at this as a profiler. I've been on many

Speaker 23 task forces over the years, anthrax and the murder of a DEA agent, two professors murder at Dartmouth College at their home, and we have to walk in with every single option.

Speaker 23 Was someone specifically targeted?

Speaker 23 And to me, it's more than a coincidence that this young woman was killed, who happens to be one of the few probably representatives of the Republican side of the House in that particular very far-left university.

Speaker 23 Something isn't right there. And, Jesse, before anything else, I'm also a forensic linguist.
What the heck did that guy yell when he walked in the door?

Speaker 23 There's such a thing as ear witness evidence, not just eyewitness, ear witness. Somebody has to know.

Speaker 23 And if it comes out later that the Brown people, the Brown University, or the Providence PD is holding back what this person said because it wasn't politically correct,

Speaker 23 that's going to be really, really a problem for them.

Speaker 36 Yeah, that's going to have legal repercussions.

Speaker 1 And that's where it stands.

Speaker 1 Well, that's a better theory than I've heard. I just see a lot of people posting about how they don't know anything and it was DEI guys and all kinds of nonsense.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 It's all sad. It's always sad.
Real Casper Melktos is the mayor, too. The whole thing is pretty funny.
Well, it is sad, but it's also amusing. I have the first one of the season.

Speaker 1 It did not come from Walmart.

Speaker 1 Burlington. Are you familiar with Burlington?

Speaker 1 Code Factory?

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 it's a chain of stores. Train company? No, Burlington department stores, I think it is.
I've never seen one. I don't think they're in California.
But they are the first

Speaker 1 this year, first sighting of the secret Santa.

Speaker 55 An anonymous Santa has been performing Christmas miracles by paying off layaway accounts at a Burlington near Wilmington down in Delaware. I just love this story.

Speaker 55 The man, he spent about $8,000 paying off 50 accounts with balances ranging from $38 to hundreds of dollars. He then walked out of the store, refused to be recognized for his generosity.

Speaker 55 And this man has apparently been quietly paying off these layaways for 25 years.

Speaker 1 He only agreed to go on the record.

Speaker 55 if he could remain anonymous.

Speaker 1 Okay, there you go.

Speaker 1 It's still not the big big store that I want, but Burlington has won this year as the first secret sand to lay away promotion.

Speaker 1 I would give them the score. They win.
I think they win.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 the timing was good. They got it out there.
You heard it.

Speaker 1 I heard it on this show.

Speaker 1 Here we go. I always go, I do have Google Alerts set up.

Speaker 1 I'm always like, is there a secret sand?

Speaker 1 That's a good idea. Well, the new thing is influencers, which I'm sure can also be paid.

Speaker 1 Like an influencer goes in and pays, but they're but they're not paying because the influencers, they're not going to do anything anonymous. Hello, no,

Speaker 1 that's not good for your influencer score. So they go to the exit of the store and say, Hey, here's a grand, go pay off your layaway.
Yay, it's a couple thousand dollars.

Speaker 1 Look at me, like and subscribe, smash that like button. Like, smash the button.

Speaker 1 Smash. Speaking of, you know, Tina and I, we love our Christmas movies.
And really, yeah, we do. And Netflix and Amazon have flooded the zone with Christmas.
Crap.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 There are a couple of good ones. We've enjoyed a few.

Speaker 1 But I'd say about 75%.

Speaker 1 We know the story. We know it's going to be romantic love interest.
But the actors, they look like they failed at gay porn. It's really unbelievable.
Every single time.

Speaker 1 Now you can just look at the icon like, nope, we're not going to watch that. This is some guy who failed at the gay porn industry.
And now he's acting in these Christmas movies.

Speaker 1 But Kiefer Sutherland has a good one out: Tinseltown,

Speaker 1 which is cute.

Speaker 1 But also, most of them are in London. They're all in London for some reason.
And it's the most unbelievable thing you've ever seen. Not a single Muslim on the street.
Oh, it's so pretty. It's London.

Speaker 1 That'll be the day. So nice there, Christmas time.
It's all kinds of white people walking around with packages and

Speaker 1 holiday cheer. No Muslims.
Come on, Netflix. Come on.

Speaker 1 They're trying to bullshit you. Yeah,

Speaker 1 big time.

Speaker 1 Okay. Well, speaking of the.
I got to be talking about that sort of thing as you brought it up.

Speaker 1 This is the Oscars. Did you hear about this? It's funny.
I was just about to play my Oscars clip, so we'll play yours from the BBC.

Speaker 32 The Oscars are to be streamed on YouTube from 2029 after the tech firm outbid traditional broadcasters. It will be free for more than 2 billion global users.

Speaker 1 Here's the CBS version, a little bit longer.

Speaker 41 The biggest night in Hollywood is on the move. The Oscars are leaving ABC and Linear TV in 2028 to start streaming on YouTube in 2029 through 2033.

Speaker 41 The Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences says it struck this deal, which includes the red carpet, to allow the Oscars to reach the largest worldwide audience possible.

Speaker 41 The Oscars have aired on ABC for half a century, and YouTube declined to tell us how much they paid for these rights. But ABC had been paying about $100 million a year.

Speaker 41 Now, the shift reflects the way viewers are consuming content nowadays and underlines the dominance of YouTube, which is owned by Google.

Speaker 1 Well, there's really a couple things at play here that I think are worth a short discussion. The first is

Speaker 1 No linear timeline. You know,

Speaker 1 this is a big deal. You don't have to hit the news, you know, like, oh, we're running late.
Oh, hurry up, everybody. Oh, we, we cut this, we cut that.

Speaker 1 So they can just run for hours and hours, which, of course, is also the downside because it will be even more boring. It's going to happen.
Yeah, it's going to be even more boring than ever. Yes.

Speaker 1 And by the way, I should mention that her actual use of the term linear TV. Oh, she, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 I thought was interesting because they're now making the, they're, they're making the cut. This is like a moment in time where, okay,

Speaker 1 there's two things here. We got linear tv that's different

Speaker 1 and uh we have our you know internet stuff well it the different and i noticed this so much you know um

Speaker 1 like i a buddy of mine has a morning show here and um he had to fill in for the next host her husband was sick or whatever and he says hey can i call you for a hit

Speaker 1 he he was making a joke but it we both think it's kind of not funny and you know so then we have to talk in between the commercial breaks i hate it it's like you can't you feel rushed you can't just say something and i'm constantly being barraged by dutch television shows and radio shows hey when you when you happen to be in holland we want you to come on our show it's like no no i'm not going to sit there and have to be rushed because we got oh we got sorry i got to cut you off we got to go oh end of the show Sucks.

Speaker 1 It's like this podcast. You imagine? Like, oh, John, we got, oh, oh, oh, we're two minutes over time.
It's already three o'clock. We already birthday affiliates.

Speaker 1 We missed the news at the top of the hour. Oh, no.
What about the commercials? No, all of that.

Speaker 1 It's annoying. And just how television people in general are.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we want to

Speaker 1 be able to do that. We want to interview you.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. Oh, that's fine.
I'll do an interview. Yes.
So we'll have Babette, and she'll call you tomorrow for the pre-interview. It's a pre-interview.
Yeah, it's always about it.

Speaker 1 Like, no, no, I don't do, but everybody does the pre-interview. I'm not doing your pre-interview.
I'm not interested. Let's have it be spontaneous.
Oh,

Speaker 1 oh, no. Can't have that.
Well, I kind of understand the position about that if they don't know you, because some people just can't carry a spontaneous interview. That's the problem.

Speaker 1 And by the way, just to plug something,

Speaker 1 I'll be on the latest Grimerica show. I did the

Speaker 1 one-hour hit. You did a hit?

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 I thought it went well. I got to plug the show quite a bit.

Speaker 1 We talked a little bit about your theories and my theories and our theories. And

Speaker 1 it was moved along. It was a good conversation.
Those two guys are pretty good. They've gotten great.
They're great.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they've gotten. Yeah.
They are our disciples. Graham and Grimes.
Graham and Grimes. G and Gs.

Speaker 1 They are our disciples.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they are big fans of the show.

Speaker 1 We have bred them. They've been bred out of the No Agenda Gitmo Nation soil.
That's where they've come from.

Speaker 1 I'm very proud of them. It's like Millennial Media Offensive.

Speaker 1 And I gave them a nod by talking about hockey for a few minutes before we go to dinner. You did that, huh? Wow.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, something you got to do if you're talking to Canadians.

Speaker 1 You switch from

Speaker 1 sumo to hockey. You are so multi-talented.
I got a note from Rob, the Constitutional Lawyer, this morning about two newly unsealed lawsuits in California, which allege that Meta, Meta,

Speaker 1 knowingly connected sexual predators with kids.

Speaker 1 Knowingly. It's a new day.
Hey, there's a predator. What are we going to do with him?

Speaker 1 There's

Speaker 1 little Joyce over there, a little 12-year-old. Let's put them together.
Pretty much, pretty much. The predators posed as young girls and persuaded teenage boys to send sexually explicit photos.

Speaker 1 This, of course, is part of these 764.

Speaker 1 Once the predators had the photos in hand, they'd spring the trap and sex tort the teen boys by threatening to send the pics to their friends and family.

Speaker 1 These two boys, two boys, ended up killing themselves, and now their parents are suing. But Ameta allegedly knew that it's here comes AI-driven follower suggestion engine.

Speaker 1 Do you think that's on a paper somewhere? What you got, both? Here, both I got the AI-driven follower suggestion engine.

Speaker 1 At least give it an acronym. Adfasu.

Speaker 1 As a hunting ground for sexual predators. But instead of taking simple safety precautions, it purportedly called in its growth team, which estimated that safety precautions would cost 1.5 million

Speaker 1 users a year. So the AI-driven recommendations allegedly

Speaker 1 How do you figure? Because of the exploding gas tank? Yeah, and they did a calculation saying, yeah, we better pay the. It's better that they die and we give them the $2 million

Speaker 1 as opposed to doing

Speaker 1 the retooling.

Speaker 1 So instead of losing 1.5 million teen users a year from their platform, not from life, the AI-driven recommendations allegedly continued affecting some 2 million child accounts in three months.

Speaker 1 Of these, 22% resulted in follow requests.

Speaker 1 Moreover, while AI is adept at connecting people, it is allegedly not good at stopping sex torsion once it begins. According to the suit, reporting mechanisms are broken and Meta refuses to act.

Speaker 1 Which brings me to several

Speaker 1 notes we received from people who were appalled that we were laughing about this. Yes, I get that.
But before you go there, I want to mention one thing.

Speaker 1 Why don't they just try to find these guys and arrest them?

Speaker 1 Why with suing meta?

Speaker 1 Why don't you try to find the 764?

Speaker 1 Does it take a genius to track down somebody?

Speaker 1 Are they that good? Come on. Well, according to

Speaker 1 Dame Chaos Pixie,

Speaker 1 husband to Dame Chaos Pixie, I'm sorry, every one of the 50 nationwide FBI offices has at least two of these cases that they're working on. The group loves to prey on tweens and teens.

Speaker 1 Yeah, okay, we understand how it works.

Speaker 1 I read almost daily the reports where spurned exes threaten to share nudes or scammers try to get money out of victims by threatening the same. These 764 victims are not the same thing.

Speaker 1 Okay, so it's easy to mock the victims of exes and scammers. These kids are actual victims.
But the thing is, we were talking about digital ID as the obvious solution to this. And maybe

Speaker 1 that was my retort to the note. Which is what Cash Patel himself has pretty much said.

Speaker 1 I think it behooves the FBI to not pick these people up immediately because they want digital ID.

Speaker 1 And by the way,

Speaker 1 that's a good point. In other words, sit on the investigation so we can make it worse.

Speaker 1 So we can then get our way. Get our way, exactly.
And I'll just say, I know a lot of kids, teenagers up to

Speaker 1 driving age, who do not have a phone.

Speaker 1 And all the parents say, we're not going to give my kid a phone. Okay.
And you know what? These kids actually stand out.

Speaker 1 I think they're smarter. They have better communication skills.
They're doing better with the opposite sex because they hang out at group meetings like church, crazy.

Speaker 1 And the only thing that some of them have, most of them have, is they get an Apple Watch, which they can text with, and the parents lock down all of the other apps, which I think is decent.

Speaker 1 It's reasonable. You can't go crazy texting on

Speaker 1 your Apple Watch. You can only send a mom, like, hey, mom, can you pick me up? You know, that's it.
And they do stuff together.

Speaker 1 They play golf, all kinds of outdoor activities. Golf.
Yes. Oh, golfing is big in Texas.
Texas.

Speaker 1 Golfing is big everywhere. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So, you know,

Speaker 1 the real problem, the parents are the problem.

Speaker 1 That's the problem. They just.
Yeah, the parents are on the phone half the time. Oh, it's the best example for your kid.
Yeah, and they're on the phone all the time.

Speaker 1 The parents are on the phone scrolling.

Speaker 1 I can't tell you how many people have almost. These guys are walking down the street.
I don't get it. You're walking down the street reading your phone.
You're not even looking up.

Speaker 1 You know, every once in a while, you want to kind of move just to a certain

Speaker 1 guy. Here he comes.
He's walking, or a girl.

Speaker 1 It doesn't matter. The sex is irrelevant.
Now, they're walking up the street. They're looking at their phone, boom, boom, walking along.

Speaker 1 And you just want to walk in a certain way and just kind of walk in front of him as they and then

Speaker 1 stop as if you've been standing there and let him walk right into you. You do this on a regular basis? I do as much as I can.

Speaker 1 We got a note

Speaker 1 from one, I think he's Gen X.

Speaker 1 Both you and John seem to be befuddled by dudes not wanting chicks.

Speaker 1 Allow me to enlighten you.

Speaker 1 Yes, actually.

Speaker 1 He's right. Allow me to enlighten you both.
We do, but

Speaker 1 they're out of reach due to their expectations.

Speaker 1 Well, there's this issue, yeah. Yeah, I think it's real.
Young men are shifting more trad.

Speaker 1 Body count matters. And the women have unrealistic and entitled requirements.
The rules of six are a thing. Yeah.
He says, for the boomers. Okay.
I've heard of

Speaker 1 it.

Speaker 1 I read six feet tall, six pack abs, six figure salary. And younger men might have.
Six pack abs, I think, was

Speaker 1 also a six-inch

Speaker 1 minimum.

Speaker 1 For me, that was the real, that's the original six.

Speaker 1 For for me. He says, I'm twice divorced, 52-year-old male, and it's gross.
It's why most men have checked out. Using the internet for anything.
He's 52. I thought he was a.

Speaker 1 You're Gen X. You're Gen X if you're 52.

Speaker 3 I think so.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you have to be. I guess so.

Speaker 1 It's why most men have just checked out. Using the internet for anything other than a hookup is dead, not because of bots, but because of the poison.
My last GF was was a grad student, plot twist.

Speaker 1 I know. I've been moderately successful, and now I think maybe a mate a little bit more mature.

Speaker 1 Hell no. These old bats are more entitled than the younger ones.
The wine hasn't aged gracefully. It's soured.

Speaker 1 Not a one-off. Opening reply to a comment about this or that online.
How much do you make? First question.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 I think

Speaker 1 this is

Speaker 1 this happened in the past 10 years, particularly when the pendulum swung so hard the other way that, in fact, I think there's EEOC lawsuits coming.

Speaker 1 White men were discriminated against in business, in schools. You couldn't get a job.

Speaker 1 Welcome to, you just introduced the op.

Speaker 1 I did send you a.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I got it. I put it in the show notes.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there's an op going on, and I don't know what the point of it is, but I went back and forth with Brunetti on this because I sent him. Because, you know, he's your deconstruction partner now.

Speaker 1 No, he's a guy. Yeah, well,

Speaker 1 when you take your break, he's coming on.

Speaker 1 So, no, he didn't see it as an op.

Speaker 1 I'm seeing it as an op because here's how, so far, here's how the op has gone. It started with Matt Taibbi

Speaker 1 promoting that article, which is in the show notes. It's an article in Compact magazine where a white guy is moaning and groaning about

Speaker 1 whites, we're being screwed.

Speaker 1 And so that went to Gutfeld.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 the reason I went back and forth with Brunetti on it is because out of the blue, Brunetti sent me, although he'd read the article from Compact, he sent me a presentation on Instagram, which appeared out of the blue almost at the same time of a whole slide deck going on and on, very professionally done

Speaker 1 on Insta. Bang, bang, bang.
Here's what's going on. Here's what's going on.
So I've gotten four.

Speaker 1 And if this shows up,

Speaker 1 you actually gave me number five because you brought it up. But if this shows up on the Today Show, then 60 Minutes and here and there, there's an op underlying it.

Speaker 1 I don't know what the point of it is,

Speaker 1 but it's something going on. I find it interesting that the most privileged white male with hot model wife is the one who's interested in this issue with a million with millions in the bank.

Speaker 1 Who's this? Brunetti!

Speaker 1 Well, he's not interested. That's the point I'm trying to make here.
He didn't think it's, he still would, he'd argue it's not an op. I'm just full of crap.
Oh,

Speaker 1 I see. And I'm seeing it, I'm already seeing it as an op, and he doesn't see, he only saw the couple of things.
I'm going to see a bunch of it, and then you brought it up. So

Speaker 1 whether it's an op or not, the point I wanted to make is I think women have really, they're the ones that were opt, not necessarily intentional, but just

Speaker 1 you don't, I think intentional.

Speaker 1 Well, I'm not going with the coincident unintentionality aspect to any of this. No, I mean, they were elevated like crazy and told, told that you shouldn't have children, do your career.

Speaker 1 And now, exactly as this note says, these women are 30, they're super privileged, they're lonely. All these TikTok women, you realize it, all the TikTok women you are playing on this show are lonely.

Speaker 1 They're lonely, lonely, lonely.

Speaker 1 Because let's face it, if you have a man in your life, you're not on TikTok like that, except for Candace.

Speaker 1 But, and that's dubious. Yeah, very dubious.

Speaker 1 So these are lonely women who use filters and all kinds of stuff to make them look good because everyone else does because I need to look as good as the next person. And it's been very destructive.

Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 1 you know, I think, you know, it used to be just fashion magazines that women had to live up to. Now it's everybody.
And they've been elevated like you, you're the boss girl. You go, girl.

Speaker 1 So.

Speaker 1 Well, there's a lot of them that think highly of themselves and

Speaker 1 you take one look at them and you say, why do you think highly of yourself? You look like crap. And with that, I want to thank you for your courage.

Speaker 1 Say in the morning to you, the man who put the crap in the way the girl looks. Say hello to my friend on the other end, the one, the only, Mr.
Johnson!

Speaker 1 In the morning to the trolls. What happened? I lost your sound effects.
In the morning to the trolls in the troll room.

Speaker 1 There we go, Birdle, Birdle.

Speaker 1 Now we're dead in the water, man. We're dead in the water.

Speaker 1 1495. I said, we're dead.
We're dead. We're dead, I tell you.
Of course, if I had 1,495 people show up at my door, I'd feel different about it. But that's it for the troll room.
They're listening.

Speaker 1 Or if they had 1,400 people donating for today's show.

Speaker 1 Dream on, baby. That's not the life of a value-for-value podcaster.
No, sir. Nope.
We just have to depend on not capturing the audience, just speaking our mind. You know why? Because we're America.

Speaker 1 Because we're Americans, period. I'm practicing my ducker rant.
I'm an American. I will speak my mind.

Speaker 1 I don't bow down to anybody, period.

Speaker 1 And that keeps us

Speaker 1 in

Speaker 1 a lower tax bracket, for sure.

Speaker 1 These trolls are listening, probably at noagendastream.com. You can also, from there, you can log into the troll room.
They may be listening.

Speaker 1 A lot of them are on the modern podcast apps. Ah, this is so much fun.
Modern podcast apps. You can get one at podcastapps.com.

Speaker 1 And we have this live feature. A lot of these shows are live with Darren Goes Live, Rock and Roll Pre-Show, and Planet Rage goes right.
Everyone's doing this live stuff, and it's in the same app.

Speaker 1 It's like an awakening. Oh, I can get a live show and on-demand.
Yes, within 90 seconds of publishing, you'll see it show up in your modern podcast app.

Speaker 1 So it's what would be a modern podcast app? Podverse, Fountain, True Fans, Podcast Guru.

Speaker 1 Well, let's look at podcastapps.com. Hold on.
Podcastapps.com.

Speaker 1 And let me tell you, there's a lot of them. So

Speaker 1 TrueFans, Podverse, Pod, Podcast Guru, Cast-O-Matic, Fountain, LNB, CurioCaster, Podcast Addict,

Speaker 1 Pod LP. There's a lot of them.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Pod LP is for the old, the, the, um, this big in South american africa they uh you know the flip phones the cheap chinese things um yeah there's a ton of pocket cast um oh the i don't think i don't know if pocket touch does live yet um

Speaker 1 but there's i mean there's a lot those are the ones that do the live stuff there's a lot there's a lot

Speaker 1 yeah it's uh it's it's an amazing little thing we've uh we've done here we've saved podcasting

Speaker 1 Saved it from the evil empire.

Speaker 1 And since... Well, maybe you'll get your Peabody Award.
Yo, I die. You know what? I don't.

Speaker 2 I will refuse it.

Speaker 1 Like Kanye. I'd be like, I'm going to flush it down the toilet if they send one to me.

Speaker 1 We do the show Value for Value.

Speaker 1 So clog the toilet can.

Speaker 1 We do the show Value for Value, which we pioneered years ago, knowing that audience capture was not our game.

Speaker 1 We also never really wanted to have any kind of conversation with advertisers because it's a pain in the butt.

Speaker 1 You know, if you have some kind of product product and you want to support us and you got to mention your product, we'll talk about it. And if we like it, we'll say we like it.

Speaker 1 If we don't, we'll just like,

Speaker 1 okay, thanks.

Speaker 1 No, some of the stuff we can't check. Like, we don't, we know

Speaker 1 Martell hardware.

Speaker 1 We, we have not checked Martell hardware, correct? I'm not sure he's, he seems like a good guy. Yeah, seems like a very good guy.
Although, according to him, you blocked him. You blocked his email.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I said that. I noticed.
You have no idea what people get. So your email server returns a message and it has a little traffic light

Speaker 1 with red illuminated. Like, you've been blocked

Speaker 1 for spam or

Speaker 1 language. Language.
Usually for language, yeah. If you cuss me out in the email, it will get through.

Speaker 1 Well, there you go. No, that eliminates 40% of your email.
It's not a bad idea.

Speaker 1 Not at all. So you can support the show.
Time, talent, treasure is what we accept.

Speaker 1 Time and talent, you know, giving us a boots on the ground report, organizing a meetup, helping us out in any kind of production way.

Speaker 1 If still looking for a great idea for a Christmas show, we've had a couple,

Speaker 1 some interesting ones like

Speaker 1 I would love to hear some producer notes. Can you imagine have to figure out which producer notes to put in?

Speaker 1 Someone like Red Book Show. Okay, where were you in 2024? We did the Red Book Show.

Speaker 1 And I appreciate that everyone's thinking about it. What was the other one?

Speaker 1 Tips of the Day. I don't think we have enough tips.
Yeah, there's not that many. No, it's not enough.

Speaker 1 What was it?

Speaker 1 Oh, election predictions. Well, that'll be a 25-minute show.
That's no good. We've only had a few elections.

Speaker 1 Four? Are we on our fourth?

Speaker 1 Let me see. Obama.
We did. We got Obama.

Speaker 1 We got

Speaker 1 Biden, Trump. So we've had five of them.
We had two Obamas, two Obamas. We caught both of them, I think, didn't we? Yeah.
Yeah. We had two.

Speaker 1 We had two Obamas.

Speaker 1 Trump. Trump.
Two Trumps. A Biden.
Biden and Trump. So that's five.
Five.

Speaker 2 Five elections.

Speaker 1 We got to hang our hats up, man.

Speaker 1 It's getting crazy. It's an epoch.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 It's the fifth turning.

Speaker 1 One of the ways you can support us is by making artwork or prompting away on the latest model, whatever you got. And it's just amazing.
I don't know how he does it, but Darren O'Neill has mastered AI.

Speaker 1 He also is a funny guy. I mean, he

Speaker 1 understands

Speaker 1 the wishes of the taskmaster. You know, you want to have something that pertains to what's talked about in the show.

Speaker 1 You want to make it look kind of quirky or funny, or you just want to have, you know, or something that even if people don't know what's in the show, they're going to be like, oh, that's interesting.

Speaker 1 And he did the,

Speaker 1 this was the MUK Ultra Show 1825. He did a bunch of drones getting caught up in their fiber optic cables and looking all scared about it.
And he's like, yeah, he nailed it.

Speaker 1 He just, he totally gets it.

Speaker 1 And most people don't, which is sad. And then they get mad.
Like, I know, Scaramanga's mad. He's mad.
I'm leaving the competition.

Speaker 1 Did he say that?

Speaker 1 To someone else privately. Which, of course, that person immediately sent me a copy of it.

Speaker 1 Of course. That's what we do.

Speaker 1 That's what the moles are for. And the reason? I haven't been mentioned.
Tentacles are everywhere.

Speaker 1 He says, the reason, I haven't been mentioned in months. So let's mention it.
It's been mentioned more than a few times in months. No, no, no, no, no.
Yeah, no, mentioned, not peaked.

Speaker 1 He's just like, you know, you're not picking my art. Well, because it's.
It's always the same. It's always, yeah, it's always cleavage.
It's always, yeah, you're right. It's always the same.

Speaker 1 I'm like, okay.

Speaker 1 Let's look at his last

Speaker 1 submissions. I don't think he submitted recently.
He hasn't submitted for a while. What does he expect? Let me see.

Speaker 1 He's leaving the competition. Let me see.
Now I get, I'm going to get in trouble for even saying that. Yeah, well, it's too late.
Because

Speaker 1 in my informant,

Speaker 1 the informants, you got your informant in trouble.

Speaker 1 I just burned my source. You just burned your source.

Speaker 1 Here, let's look under artists. Hold on a second.
Let me see. Artists.
All right.

Speaker 1 Darren, Darren, Darren, Martin. Wow, he's not.

Speaker 1 He's not even on the list. Where is he? There he is.
Scaramanga. A scaramander.
427 submitted. Last one submitted December 11th.

Speaker 1 No, okay. He did the Pocky.

Speaker 1 Yeah, December 11th. He did the Pocky Rice Dog.
Not funny. Okay, right.
AI is dumb. Not funny.

Speaker 1 Read a book with,

Speaker 1 you know, kiss on the boat.

Speaker 1 But since we're going to be slamming again, let me get it,

Speaker 1 bring up the art too. The last one I liked was the Frenchy Assassin, but you didn't like it because it had Brigitte Macrone as a monkey,

Speaker 1 as a monkey on the wall. So it turns out that Scaramanga is only good at one thing, it's cheesecake, and he's really good at it.

Speaker 1 But when he tries to do something else, he's just mediocre. I mean, I'm not trying to be mean or anything.
Yeah, you are. You're very mean to him, but I think it's justified considering that he's quit

Speaker 1 the competition. He's quit, he's he's left, he's left the cult.

Speaker 1 Uh, his little packy rice thing is kind of cute. I liked it, but he didn't like it.
It was something better at the time, there was just something better.

Speaker 1 I don't know what it was, but Trump with a bone in his mouth is no good.

Speaker 1 Uh, the wrestling raccoons, you know, has potential.

Speaker 1 Uh,

Speaker 1 he's just barely missing, and you know what? The cartoonish things, I'm over it, Jeffrey Rhea. I'm just over it.
You got to be a lot better to do a cartoonish thing. That model sucks.

Speaker 1 And let me see what else.

Speaker 1 I like Joy Burglar, which is another Darren O'Neal piece. You didn't like it.
It was okay.

Speaker 1 I wasn't going to fight you on it.

Speaker 1 Yeah. That's it.
I see lots of menorahs for today. We should put a Hanukkah menorah on the artwood look.
I see everyone go insane. Oh, they'll go nuts.

Speaker 1 Oh, no. Oh, no.

Speaker 1 See, I told you.

Speaker 1 They got a dreidel.

Speaker 1 So, anyway, thank you, Darren O'Neill. Great job, as always, brother.
We appreciate you. Appreciate you doing the rock and roll pre-show every Thursday and Sunday as well before we go live.

Speaker 1 It's always a great way to get into the mood. Now we want to thank.
I have no evidence that he complains. Darren never complains.
No, he's not a complainer.

Speaker 1 Hmm.

Speaker 1 He's not.

Speaker 1 So now

Speaker 1 we start by thanking all of our supporters, $50 and above. And in this segment, we thank the executive and associate executive producers.
Why?

Speaker 1 Because they have supported us with enough money to get one of those credits, just like Hollywood does. Those people don't actually, all they do is hang out on the set, look important.

Speaker 1 They get a folding chair with a name on it because they ponied up. And if they're lucky, they get some out of of it.

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Speaker 1 from Melbourne, Florida, who came in with $500.

Speaker 1 I don't see a note for him. Do we have no note from Joseph? I can't find one.
So, executive producership for him, and he will get a double-up karma.

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Yeah, you got a wooden watch from him. Yeah, I got him.
Tom has not been moving product as well as I had been, and I think he's giving up.

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I designed a nerdy product for engineers and others who regularly need to connect between

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Speaker 1 And then we got a note from Luke Cumberland from Oxford, Missouri.

Speaker 1 I don't know if I can even understand what to read here.

Speaker 1 He says: In the morning, please bear with me, initiating value-for-value protocol, introducing ALA,

Speaker 1 a system dedicated to achieving computational continuity, safety, and coherence via algorithmic governance.

Speaker 1 Whoa.

Speaker 1 It is my pleasure to help produce your dynamite show.

Speaker 1 I'm preoccupied with the superpositions with superpositions conceptually for instance one a set not a spectrum containing everything between o and two we can learn a lot from that set of infinite probabilities namely observation resolves the set into reality so preoccupied when a mag magneto hydrodynamic system occurred to me does he have a website for this this you know i was i was driving back from austin this is a guy this is one of those guys who's going to invent a time machine

Speaker 1 or zero-point energy.

Speaker 1 Well, same thing. Well, he says,

Speaker 1 so what does he have now?

Speaker 1 I don't understand what it is. First public iteration of this work is the ALA dissonance modulator browser extension.

Speaker 1 Okay, so A-A-E-L-L-A dissonance modulator browser extension function. It grants user a volumetric control access, enforcing constraints on web chaos.

Speaker 1 It actively measures and suppresses dissonance entropy, auto-collapsing, distracting feeds, and animation, and clickbait headlines for a low-dissonance online experience. He has a GitHub coming.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Well, let me know when.

Speaker 1 And he has a VPN protocol coming too. Let me know, and I'll gladly mention it on the show, whatever website you have.
But this is a bit like yesterday.

Speaker 1 I was driving back from Austin, a lot of traffic. And I'm like, oh, it's a new JP.
Would you go to Austin? Have my haircut. My girl.
Okay. You know, get the ladies.
Did you learn anything?

Speaker 1 Nothing. No, nothing.
Nothing. No, she can't talk about stuff anymore because they were afraid she was turning MAGA.

Speaker 1 So now we can't talk.

Speaker 1 Because they don't poison you there. They might have.
I don't know. But so I flip on Joe Rogan because he's got, again, he just had him on.
What's that guy from Black Horse,

Speaker 1 Black, Dark Horse? I don't know. Yeah, come on.
You know, one of the brothers. One of the brothers.
No. The brother.
The black guy. No, the brother.

Speaker 1 What's his name? With Heather. He's with Heather.
With Heather. Oh, Weinstein.
Weinstein. Thank you.
Weinstein. The thin one or the big one? The big one.
What's his name? Oh, he had the big one on.

Speaker 1 He had the big one on. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's Eric.

Speaker 1 Eric Weinstein. Yes.
Is that Eric? Yes. Yeah, Eric's the big one.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 the biologist.

Speaker 1 No, no. The biologist is the other Weinstein, the skinny one.

Speaker 1 Oh, he's. Eric is the mathematician.
He works with Peter B. Hale.
He's a big fat guy. No, the big head.
No, no, no. And he's the guy who kept begging to be Joe Rogan's friend on one of the shows.

Speaker 1 Okay, so it's Brent. Brent.
Brett? Brent. Is it Brett? Brett.

Speaker 1 We're a mess. We're terrible.
And he's like,

Speaker 1 yeah, I asked to come back on because I have something really important. And then he went.

Speaker 1 Oh, he, it was like. It's another media whore.
Oh, it was, it was the worst. I mean, I love Joe, but it was the worst.

Speaker 1 And I tried to stick after 45, maybe almost an hour. And he's talking about how evolution happens and this, it's a solution, not just a fold.
I'm like, my eyes, like, oh, man, this is the worst idea.

Speaker 1 Joe, I think Joe thought he had like some kind of major

Speaker 1 scientific breakthrough. It's like every time, every five minutes, like, my, so my hypothesis is what I'm putting on the table.
I'm like, oh, no.

Speaker 1 I could tell. I think Joe was irritated.

Speaker 1 Oh, man. Anyway, Luke Cumberland,

Speaker 1 your note was very similar to that Joe Rogan episode. So send me a link to your browser extension.

Speaker 1 You're up next. Oh, I'm sorry.
I was hypnotized by that fascinating story.

Speaker 1 Eli, the coffee guy. Wow, I get him.

Speaker 1 And you know where he's from? Yes. Bensonville, Illinois.
That's right. 21217.

Speaker 1 With all the doom and gloom clogging up the news cycle. ISIS

Speaker 1 back in

Speaker 1 back in rotation.

Speaker 1 War with Venezuela, and now apparently, Razorblades showing up. Oh, bonus clip.

Speaker 1 I think I clicked that. Do you have a razor blade clip? I think I do.
Hold on a second. It's showing up in Walmart bread.

Speaker 1 Yes, I have it here.

Speaker 58 Lots of new information we're learning this morning about razor blades that were shoved into loaves of bread at two Walmart locations here in Biloxi.

Speaker 58 And we're also learning this morning that this has been going on for more than a week and it has taken Walmart, apparently, more than 10 days to contact police about this issue.

Speaker 58 Also new this morning, we're receiving pictures. Check these out that were sent to us from a viewer who purchased a loaf of bread.
Let me bring you up to speed on this.

Speaker 58 Yesterday, Monday, Biloxi Police around noon received a call from Walmart here on CT Switzerland, the Walmart superstore, that managers have been receiving complaints from customers finding razors in their bread.

Speaker 58 When workers in the deli went to inspect loaves of bread, they found even more razor blades. A Biloxi police officer showed up, took a report.

Speaker 58 A little while later, Biloxi Police was called again, this time from the neighborhood Walmart on Pass Road in Biloxi, and they reported the same thing, finding razors shoved into loaves of bread.

Speaker 58 This morning, investigators are combing through surveillance video trying to find the person responsible for shoving these razor blades.

Speaker 58 And we're also learning that this has been going on for at least more than a week now.

Speaker 1 Can you still buy razor blades?

Speaker 1 For your shick?

Speaker 1 Remember, yeah, you had that thing, you twist the handle, and then the claw opens up, and you put the razor blade in? Do they have to do that? Yeah, I think you can. Hmm.

Speaker 1 And they're used for scraping. I mean, this razor blades, the older kind of thing.

Speaker 1 I'm thinking it was probably some other kind of razor blade, not a safety razor as they used to know. Anyway, there you go.
Bonus clip

Speaker 1 in the donation segment. Well, I think you cut over the loaf of bread and find an electric razor in there.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 It'd be kind of cool. All right, Marty.

Speaker 1 The holiday season. Christmas came early.

Speaker 1 Code Bongino, by the way, did you hear about what's happening? Yeah, he's back. Code Bongino is coming back.
No, Bongino's quitting. Yeah, and that means Code Bongino is coming back.

Speaker 1 Oh, yes, Code Bongino will be back. So the guy's in less than a year.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 He's less than a year and he quits the job. He couldn't handle it.

Speaker 1 No, because it's actual work.

Speaker 1 It's office work. Not like opposed to podcasting.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Hey, he thought, you know, he's like, wow, it's going to be cool. I'm going to be a deputy director of the FBI.
What?

Speaker 1 What? This is a desk? Where's the mic? What?

Speaker 1 What are these files? I'm supposed to. What am I supposed to do with all this pile of files? What are these TPS reports? Oh, no.
TPS report. Exactly.
Well, I appreciate him for serving.

Speaker 1 I'm sure it was a rough time.

Speaker 1 Oh, it had to be miserable. Yeah, of course it was miserable.
Once again, proving that podcasting is the wave of the future. Just as deputy,

Speaker 1 just as, just ask deputy director Dan. Oh, okay.
It's a reference to Bongino. Still, no agenda is the best podcast in the universe, no matter what Bongino says.

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Speaker 1 Eli the coffee guy jingles ISIS in America and go podcasting.

Speaker 1 ISIS

Speaker 1 will follow them to the gates of hell. hell.
ISIS

Speaker 1 go podcasting.

Speaker 1 I'm going to get the next one so you can see if you can

Speaker 1 see your problem from the

Speaker 1 last Linda Lou package. Can I just mention something? We do have new Sharptons

Speaker 1 for people who I have a new Sharpton for people who want to request Sharpton. I was like, I want to hear Sharpton.
I have a new Sharpton that I'd like to share. Here we go.
Oops, not that one.

Speaker 59 Give the world a gay Santa Claus, God Almighty. God Almighty, God Almighty.
Leave out the cookies and the milk this Christmas Eve for a holly jolly homosexual, God Almighty.

Speaker 1 Here you go. That's AI.

Speaker 1 No, it's actually from a movie.

Speaker 1 It is? Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 And it's him? Yeah.

Speaker 1 So that's from a script. I don't know if it's the same.
Feels good.

Speaker 1 Michael

Speaker 1 Benevente in Yonkers, New York, came up.

Speaker 2 Oh, Yonkers. Yeah, Yonkers.

Speaker 1 I've been to Yonkers. We don't have any too many people from Yonkers.
When you're an Armonk, you go to Yonkers, man. You go to Yonkers to shop.
That's what you do. You go to Yonkers.

Speaker 1 And you go to Yonkers. Yes.

Speaker 1 $200. He has no note that we can find, and so he gets to double up Karma.
He sure does.

Speaker 56 You've got

Speaker 1 Karma.

Speaker 1 and then winding it up for our executive and associate executive producers there she is linda lupatkin from castle rock colorado 200 she's here every single show we love you linda lupatkin and she wants jobs karma and has a good idea she says why don't you give the gift of a resume that gets results this christmas season Go to ImageMakers Inc.com for all of your executive resume and job search needs.

Speaker 1 That's ImageMakers Inc. with a K and work with Linda Liu, Duchess of Jobs and writer of winning resumes.
And she winds it up by saying, thank you for your courage, Linda.

Speaker 44 Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.

Speaker 1 Let's go for jobs.

Speaker 56 You've got our money.

Speaker 1 Thank you very much to these executive and associate executive producers. We appreciate you very, very much.

Speaker 1 You keep the show rolling, as do all of our treasure supporters, Time, Talent, Treasure, but even the Time and Talent. It's all appreciated.
That's why we are the best podcast in the universe.

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Go to noagendadonations.com.

Speaker 1 Congratulations with these Hollywood-accepted credits. Our formula is this:

Speaker 1 We go out, we hit people in the mouth.

Speaker 1 Shut up, sleep.

Speaker 1 Shut up, sleep.

Speaker 1 I have one short little screwball clip that I thought was funny. I don't know if you heard this about the Finland.

Speaker 1 All I know about Finland is they just bought a whole bunch of F-35s from us.

Speaker 1 No, they had to apologize to all the Asian countries. Listen to this O-Brother clip.
Oh, hold on a second. Oh, brother.

Speaker 32 The Finnish Prime Minister has apologized to citizens of Japan, China, and South Korea for offensive squinting gestures made by three politicians from his governing coalition.

Speaker 1 What was he doing?

Speaker 1 He was squinting and doing a Chinese accent, I guess. Oh, no.
No. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So he had to apologize for the country.
This must be stupid.

Speaker 1 I got to figure this one out. Hey, by the way,

Speaker 1 Gen Zs, you're looking for a job? You're looking to get paid good money? Want to live in a nice community where they're eating the dogs? No more?

Speaker 60 They were soon going to face a problem that could trickle down to you and what you purchased.

Speaker 60 Today I went to Columbus to talk to Governor Mike DeWine about what will soon be a giant hole in the workforce in Springfield.

Speaker 60 We talked about other things too, but in about a month, the government's going to change the status of Haitians working there in that community from legal to illegal. That's about 10,000 workers gone.

Speaker 60 I asked if the governor has appealed to the White House. He tells me he's talked to everyone who will listen.

Speaker 1 These people who are currently legal, who came here legally,

Speaker 33 their status will change and they'll no longer be legal. When that happens, all those employers will no longer be able to employ them.
And so that one day, all of them are going to be unemployed.

Speaker 33 And these companies are going to have, start scrambling and trying to figure out how are we going to make our production.

Speaker 60 This issue, you'll recall, was a big one during the presidential election.

Speaker 1 I'm going to go ahead and get a little bit

Speaker 1 in. From the governor, I'm thinking about it.
Yeah. So

Speaker 1 before everyone starts crying, TPS, temporary protective status. That's right.
It's time to go home now. You've been protected.
You go home.

Speaker 1 We have lots of people who want jobs, I presume, or are we all now too arrogant? We don't want to work in a factory? Because that's what we're going to get. That's what it's going to be.

Speaker 1 And they'll be good paying union jobs.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't know. Yeah.
I don't know what they're going to do.

Speaker 1 Then they have the Somalians. They're going to have to do something about them.
There's a lot of them that are in the same circumstance.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And now they're starting to make a real fuss about Elon Omar actually probably being

Speaker 1 illegally entered under the became a She married her brother. She married her brother.

Speaker 1 And the story is actually sillier than that.

Speaker 1 They had to get her brother out there. Her brother's gay.

Speaker 1 Oh? Have you heard the whole story about this?

Speaker 1 No, gee, my eyes must have glazed over. Her brother's gay, and Somalia was having an anti-gay crusade, and they had to get him out of the country.

Speaker 1 So they, so what they found a guy with this, they found a guy with a name in England that she ended up marrying technically, and then changed her brother's name to that guy's name, brought him over as though they were married, and then

Speaker 1 never divorced her first husband. The whole thing is such a disaster.

Speaker 1 It's complete fraud, and she should be, she should be

Speaker 2 deported, deported.

Speaker 1 She should. I'm telling you, this is going to, this is going to begin.
They're going to

Speaker 1 run her out on a railroad tie.

Speaker 1 You're going to deport her. You watch.
This is going to be a big deal when it starts to, because Trump already hinted at it. And yeah.
Yeah. No, he wouldn't have said it.
And retribution. Retribution.

Speaker 1 He wouldn't have said it if he didn't, if he didn't know something. That's kind of like the Reiner thing.

Speaker 1 I'm kind of trying to place this because what he posted about the murder of Rob

Speaker 1 Reiner and his wife. Neil, in fact, I have a

Speaker 33 clip here.

Speaker 1 Hold on a second.

Speaker 1 Here it is. Reiner.

Speaker 1 This. Here we go.

Speaker 42 A number of Republicans have denounced your statement of

Speaker 1 social after the murder of Rob Reiner.

Speaker 42 Do you stand by that post?

Speaker 15 Well, I wasn't a fan of his at all. He was a deranged person as far as Trump is concerned.
He said,

Speaker 15 he knew it was false. In fact, it's the exact opposite: that I was a friend of Russia controlled by Russia.
You know, it was the Russia hooks. He was one of the people behind it.

Speaker 15 I think he hurt himself in career-wise. He became like a deranged person, Trump derangement syndrome.
So I was not a fan of Rob Reiner at all.

Speaker 1 And I had to really think about this because,

Speaker 1 you know, he posted kind of like, yeah, he was deranged, made people crazy, and rest in peace at the end, or something like that.

Speaker 1 And everyone's like, oh, oh, he can't do this.

Speaker 1 Like, you know, I can't ask you because, you know, he's Trump is 80.

Speaker 1 But I can see where when you're 80, you're like, you have a different view of death. Like, okay, he's dead.
You know, Trump doesn't seem to have a problem with death.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 he's somewhat sympathetic, but he didn't.

Speaker 1 But he didn't virtue signal. And I kind of have respect for that.
No, he doesn't do that. I kind of have respect for the signal.

Speaker 1 He doesn't do that. And I wrote an essay on this in the last newsletter.
I'm just thinking of blowing it out as a substack thing because I have so many Rob Reiner screenshots. Oh,

Speaker 1 you should do a little thread emoji on X and post it in 1,500 posts. Yeah, I'm not going to do that.

Speaker 1 One.

Speaker 1 One slash 20.

Speaker 1 Although, now that you mention it, it's a funny idea. But Rob Reiner

Speaker 1 had nothing but hateful, daily hateful posts about Trump. And I have one of them exemplified on the newsletter,

Speaker 1 which was one of the an example of about six days in a row where he says, he's bitching and moaning.

Speaker 1 And it was relentless for

Speaker 1 the entire time Trump stepped down the escalator or came down the escalator. And it never ended.
And it was just, it was unconscionable. And I don't see why Trump should.
It was both of them.

Speaker 1 It was Michelle as well. She kept calling him predictable.
They were calling him Hitler and

Speaker 1 fascists and Hitler. A lot of Hitler from her.
A lot of Hitler. That still doesn't mean that I like them being killed, but

Speaker 1 they shouldn't have been killed.

Speaker 1 To me, it was like, okay, so it was honest. I'll give him that, but it

Speaker 1 didn't feel good about it.

Speaker 1 How did you feel?

Speaker 1 It didn't bother me one way or the other.

Speaker 1 It was very Trumpian.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's not, it was like, was it a shock to anybody that Trump was like non-plussed about the whole thing and would say something like this? Well, I think

Speaker 1 he could have gone off the deep end and said they were a bunch, a couple of assholes. I'm glad they're dead.
That's what I think he wanted to say. I think that's what he said.
That's what he said.

Speaker 1 Well, he kind of said it, but he didn't say it directly. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But everyone's, you know, now all of a sudden, whoa,

Speaker 1 it's right. You can't traitors.

Speaker 1 Well, the thing that bothers me is they tried to pull this off. I don't think they accomplished much.
But they try to say, well, Republicans are hypocrites if they let Trump get away with this

Speaker 1 when they were making such a fuss about people celebrating Charlie Kirk's death, which I also mentioned in this column.

Speaker 1 And no, because Trump was directly targeted, the people who were celebrating Charlie Kirk's death

Speaker 1 wasn't directing nasty tweets at them for years on end. No, no.
So this is false equivalency, which they love to pull out of the hat every chance they get. Hold on.
I have

Speaker 1 Joy Reed.

Speaker 1 The Joy Reed Show. Is this an old clip? Let me see.
Trump's response was to crap all over Rob Reiner. Oh, she has a podcast now.

Speaker 1 Oh, you don't know that? Yeah, there it is.

Speaker 61 And so he was a terrible thing, terrible for America. Russia, Russia, Russia, and sell his dumb Trump bullshit.
So this has caused even Republicans to say, whoa,

Speaker 1 that's too much. You know, you can call a reporter piggy.

Speaker 61 We're down with it. You can say you can grab a woman by the P-word.

Speaker 1 We're cool with it.

Speaker 61 You can even like actually grab E.J. Carroll by the P-word and get adjudicated as a sexual assault or abuser.

Speaker 1 We're good with that.

Speaker 61 You can commit 37 felony counts.

Speaker 2 You can rob New York.

Speaker 61 You can take classified documents home and put them in your shower, in a tacky shower you can do all of those things we don't care what you do you can do anything you want when you're a star they let you do it you're donald trump you're a star to us you can do anything you can call women fat ugly anything you want you can call all somalis you know garbage anything you want go after anybody you want but not our not not a hollywood star we actually like not not not this the people inside maga who are closest to the maga base they see trump up close they know that he is faltering cognitively they see his cankles swelling up to the size of an elephant's feet, although, except that he's not as delightful as an elephant.

Speaker 61 He's the opposite. They can smell his diaper full on many occasions and have him change multiple times a day.

Speaker 61 They see him wandering around, seemingly unaware of where he is at times, not knowing what city he's in sometimes, rambling,

Speaker 61 answering questions with complete non-sequiturs, what we've heard on this program with medical experts saying that he's definitely in cognitive decline, maybe dementia.

Speaker 1 They know that. Experts.

Speaker 1 Experts. I haven't seen the experts.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 She's terrible.

Speaker 1 She's definitely part of the problem.

Speaker 1 By the way,

Speaker 1 I just have to say, because we have a listener, black female listener, and she sent me a note like a week ago. She says, Are you going to play any clips from Nikki Minaj talking good about Trump?

Speaker 1 Or do you only play black women who are insane and mad?

Speaker 1 And as I'm playing that, I'm like, like, yeah, that's pretty much true. But I had asked, I said, it's always funnier.
I said, can you please send me a link? She says, it's all over X.

Speaker 1 Well, I'm like, if you're not even going to send me a link to your favorite Nikki Minaj clip, then, you know, you do better.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 yeah, and she also Minaj has a

Speaker 1 then they're now claiming she has a crush on Jesse Waters,

Speaker 1 which is part of it. Oh, that's good.
I like that.

Speaker 1 So they, so Gutfeld had on, he likes to bring on George Santos, the phony congressman who, you know, got kicked out of Congress and then spent a couple of days in jail afterwards.

Speaker 1 And that Trump commuted his sentence. Yeah.
And he brings Santos on. And Santos had an interesting thing to say about it because

Speaker 1 he was part of

Speaker 1 a bill. He put a bill together, which most like Crockett never done this, called the Minaj Act.
And it had to do with.

Speaker 1 But he says that he says, I don't know what the fuss is about

Speaker 1 Minaj being a MAGA because she voted for it. It was well known to everybody that was involved with her or knew her.
She voted for Romney.

Speaker 1 She's been a Republican for a while. So what? Yeah, right.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Now, I think she just says you're only playing clips of black women who are mad.

Speaker 1 Well, of course, it's funny because they're funny.

Speaker 1 There's nothing entertaining about listening to Nicki, Mickey, Nicky, Mickey,

Speaker 1 Mirage,

Speaker 1 Mirage,

Speaker 1 Nikki, Mirage, saying anything that's cognizant. Who cares?

Speaker 1 There you go. And there it is.

Speaker 1 All right. What do we have? Anything else we need to talk about? Well, just get these two Greiner clips out of the way.
These are backgrounders from the BBC.

Speaker 1 And I thought they'd be more objective than American reports. Okay, I see rundown BBC and rundown three BBC, but no rundown two.

Speaker 1 Yes, there is no two. Okay.

Speaker 42 A number of Republicans have denounced your statement on true surveillance.

Speaker 1 Denounced. This is the same clip I had.
Yeah, it was part of the report.

Speaker 1 After the murder of Rob Reiner.

Speaker 1 Okay, I got it.

Speaker 15 Well, I wasn't a fan of his at all. He was a deranged person as far as Trump is concerned.
He said

Speaker 15 he knew it was false. In fact, it's the exact opposite, that I was a friend of Russia controlled by Russia.
You know, it was the Russia hooks. He was one of the people behind it.

Speaker 15 I think he hurt himself in career-wise. He became like a deranged person, Trump derangement syndrome.
So I was not a fan of Rob Reiner at all.

Speaker 1 All right, that was nothing different than that. My clip from that clip.
Well, that sucks. Yeah.
Okay, well, let's play three then.

Speaker 48 Our North America correspondent Peter Bowes was there.

Speaker 1 Another Brit.

Speaker 57 There was a very brief appearance by Nick Reiner. He sat at the front of what is a very large courtroom in this downtown LA courthouse.
He was mostly expressionless. He had a blank look on his face.

Speaker 57 He listened to his lawyer, Alan Jackson, who we've just heard from, asking the judge to adjourn the hearing until January the 7th to allow more time to prepare the case. Mr.

Speaker 57 Jackson later said that there were complex and serious issues that needed to be carefully examined.

Speaker 57 Normally, at a first appearance, a defendant will get the opportunity to enter a plea, guilty or not guilty. That did not happen.

Speaker 57 He was asked by the judge whether he understood that the hearing was being adjourned, and he replied, Yes, Your Honour, before soon being taken away back to jail to await the next hearing.

Speaker 48 And prosecutors in this case have raised the possibility of the death sentence, haven't they?

Speaker 57 They have. If he is eventually found guilty at a jury trial, he could face either life without the possibility of parole or indeed the death sentence.

Speaker 57 Although the prosecution have said that they have not yet decided whether they would pursue that option. It's interesting that California hasn't executed anyone for almost 20 years.

Speaker 57 Capital punishment remains legal here, but the current governor, Gavin Newsom, has issued a moratorium on the death penalty, which halted all executions from 2019.

Speaker 48 And we heard from his lawyer, Alan Jackson, just then, and this is a man who is very used to these high-profile cases.

Speaker 57 Oh, yeah, he is a veteran Los Angeles criminal defense lawyer, a defence lawyer now widely known for handling these high-profile, complex cases like this one.

Speaker 57 In the past, he's represented celebrities, Harvey Weinstein, Kevin Spacey, to name two.

Speaker 8 He has seen the courtroom, this is interesting, from both sides.

Speaker 57 Now he is a defense lawyer, but previously he was a federal prosecutor. He was a senior Los Angeles County district attorney.

Speaker 57 And if he has a reputation for anything, it is his very persistent style of cross-examination.

Speaker 1 You know, when I first read the president's response, I thought, man, he must know something. Maybe he already knows that

Speaker 1 the kids like you guys are so horrible i'm gonna kill you

Speaker 1 but then i thought man maybe not what do you i mean it's a complicated case i mean is this not uh i mean

Speaker 1 this is all stuff this is all propaganda because this jackson guy is one of those

Speaker 1 somebody pointed out he says the best friend of a of a defense attorney is a continuance And he's already got a couple of stalling tactics in there.

Speaker 1 It's going to take forever to get this thing underway. Oh,

Speaker 1 he wants to be on TV.

Speaker 1 He wants to be on TV. He's going to be on TV a lot.
He's nobody. How did he even get hired? Nobody knows that.
They don't know who's paying him.

Speaker 1 This question has come up. This guy's the hottest attorney, the hottest defense attorney in LA, and he's somehow right away.
He's the guy

Speaker 1 without any moment of hesitation. He shows up immediately.
How's that work? Well, maybe the kid didn't do it.

Speaker 1 Maybe the kid didn't do it. So we have to ignore the bloody room at the Hope Motel Motel and the

Speaker 1 He might have been there, but maybe he didn't do it.

Speaker 1 Maybe he didn't do it. But if he gets convicted, here's the prop bet of the century.

Speaker 1 Death penalty or no death penalty? Well, I don't think that's a good prop bet. It's got to be one.
It's got to be one. Well, it will be, but I don't think that's the good.

Speaker 1 That bet will be. Everyone will say no.

Speaker 1 Which is where you want a prop bet, so you want him to be lopsided. Exactly.
Exactly. But

Speaker 1 there'll be a. I will get a memo memo from uh bet a uh bet ag what is it called uh online bet ag I think

Speaker 1 the website yeah he sends they will send me a note I'm on the mailing list for the for the prop bet

Speaker 1 me too yeah and so I'll get that we'll read them when they come out people put their money down waste their money on

Speaker 1 so you agree with me that it's a great prop bet because it'll be lopsided so there's an agreement well I'm not gonna

Speaker 1 I mean I'm not a big fan of the whole prop bet phenomenon but uh really? Everyone, it seems to be a trillion-dollar marketplace. It is a huge because it's, you know, it's compelling.

Speaker 1 I mean, can't we do our own prop bets?

Speaker 1 Well, I think

Speaker 1 I don't see why not. I mean, we'd be pretty good at it.

Speaker 1 You know, I mean, I mean, first of all, how do you make money as a prop bet company? I'm thinking.

Speaker 1 You work on the middle, so

Speaker 1 there's some sort of crossover. It's an arbitrage.

Speaker 1 I'll forget. It's too much work.

Speaker 1 It is too much work. You have to know what you're doing.
You have to be a statistician to do it for you. We can't even get the podcast awards together.
So there's not going to be anything.

Speaker 1 That's coming. Jeez.
You expect things to happen overnight. That's your problem.

Speaker 1 I'm going to show my support by donating to no agenda. Imagine all the people who could do this.
Oh, yeah, that'd be fab.

Speaker 1 Well, that leads us to the last of our donation segment, the second donation segment, where we talk about the already mentioned people and thank the people who donated $50 or more.

Speaker 1 And Adam's going to start at the top with our best friend

Speaker 1 from Nevada. Yes, and we love all of the people who support us financially.
It is the only way to do a podcast that is not. capturable by the audience.
Dame Rita is who you're referring to.

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We hope so. Well, my daughter should be landing in about two minutes.

Speaker 1 Kristen Hanlon. Two minutes.
Two minutes.

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The chaos that is 2025 suits my mood most days. Whatever this small donation may entitle me, gratefully accept it.

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She sounds like

Speaker 16 you've been deduced.

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Speaker 1 SK?

Speaker 1 Poland.

Speaker 1 Well, he says... No, SK is not Poland.
Hello is Poland.

Speaker 1 No, he says he's... Oh, no, Slovakia.
I'm sorry. I heard from a fellow producer from Poland donating in show 1825, so I had to top him.
Not my first donation. Never deduced.
Jakub Pelak, Llavakia.

Speaker 16 You've been deduced.

Speaker 1 There's our buddy Eric Hochl from Milrose, Deutschland, 104. Jennifer Williams in Cunnard, Texas, 100.
Barry Bonavace in Elkton, Florida, 100. Sir Johnny Bananas, Fowler, Indiana, 100.

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He says, I love boobs in the U.S. Constitution.
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Speaker 16 You've been deduced. Do you know Krista yourself?

Speaker 1 No, she sent in a very long note.

Speaker 1 It was so long, it was like four pages or three pages at least. And it's a very entertaining note that I read.

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Speaker 1 she sent us some patches. Oh.

Speaker 1 And I'm thinking these patches are pretty cool.

Speaker 1 What kind of patches are they? There's like no agenda patches.

Speaker 1 Oh, wow it's like military patches only they say no agenda and stuff on them there's some really good it's like a challenge coin but it's a patch oh i want my patch i i she sent one for you yeah okay yes send it to me yours got damaged

Speaker 1 i should i should have said that uh i got a very nice christmas package from the folks over at um

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Speaker 1 Ricky Thomas. Ricky Thomas.

Speaker 1 She's a producer. And it was different kinds of coffee and included in it Gigawatt Coffee.
Well, she's got taste. Yeah, well, that means that they sent out Christmas packages to all of their

Speaker 1 business relations with Gigawatt coffee in there. So I love hearing that.
I love it when people succeed. Yeah,

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I don't mind it. It's good coffee.
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It's back. Preston Price, Chong wants some jobs, Kerma.
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You got to send us a note. Andrew Benz, Imperial, Missouri, 50.05.
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What does she say here?

Speaker 1 I was in Greece. She was, oh, this is, it is show content.
I was driving through the mountains of northern Greece listening to show 1825 when John started talking about grappa.

Speaker 1 I had to smile because right at that moment, the air was filled with the unmistakable smell of grape must from the nearby distilleries.

Speaker 1 My husband George and I would love to invite the No Agenda community Adam John, executive producer Dana Bernetti to join us at the magical two-month window of the grape harvest in Mount Pico.

Speaker 1 And

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Speaker 1 discover Nagoska, a grape you won't find anywhere else. And she suggests maybe Dana could help us make a film about our charming Greek village,

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That's the town. Humanissa.
Humanissa is how you pronounce it. Great idea.

Speaker 1 I'll have Brunetti fuel up the jet. We'll be there soon.
Don't count on the movie. He's stingy like that.
He's stingy like that. 50 Shades of Grappa.
There you go. There's an idea.

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Thank you.

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And we wind it out with Jason Maurer in Vancouver, Washington, $50. By the way, is Mimi okay with all the flooding going on up there?

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Well, at least I was thinking of her. Yeah, well,

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All right. We got got some groovy AI slop and some not coming up our end of the show mixes.
But first, we have to talk about our meetups. No agenda

Speaker 1 meetups.

Speaker 1 I can't remember. When was the first No Agenda meetup? Do you remember what the first one was?

Speaker 1 I can't remember. Is that the one we did in Austin? The big one? Or were they going on? So I think the meetups began with the Hot Pockets Tour.
Ah, yes. Okay, so that is a long time ago.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 So maybe the first one was at our dame there in Virginia, I'm thinking. Wherever the Hot Pockets Tour started is

Speaker 1 where it started. Well, there's one taking place today, and they are all over the world.
It's a global phenomenon. Noah Gender producers get together, chat, hang out, learn about each other's skills.

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Easy and always a party. Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days.

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Speaker 1 All right, so now we are

Speaker 1 at the end of show ISOs, which we always like to compete to see which

Speaker 1 little bit we should end the show with, which is always kind of fun.

Speaker 1 I don't know, do people. Well, there's no competition.

Speaker 1 Let's just hold hands and tell a secret. Since I have four and I'm going to win, I'm going to play my four first.
Here we go.

Speaker 17 It was really great, and the performances were fantastic.

Speaker 1 Okay, I'll try my next one.

Speaker 1 This is bonkers.

Speaker 1 I don't like that one. How about this one? And it takes balls, the weight, and heft of anvils to pursue this.

Speaker 1 And I think this is a good clip, but I don't think it's too long. It is too long.
It's too long. This one, I think, is AI.

Speaker 28 Wow, Adam and John hit it out of the park again.

Speaker 1 Compete with that, Dvorak. Well, I actually have the same clip damn near.
This is ISO home run really how is that that show was a home run

Speaker 28 wow adam and john hit it out of the park again

Speaker 1 that is ia so you're now moving into my territory you're poaching as usual

Speaker 1 as you yeah yeah yeah tick tock clips are next

Speaker 1 you already started those okay let's start with uh let's go uh how about bonus bonus bonus wow give these two guys a bonus

Speaker 1 i like i'm already removing mine. I like that one a lot.

Speaker 1 Okay, there we go to the two. I have two variations on the exact same clip.
Okay, here comes the two. With different intonation.
Wait, wait, let's do number two first. What a great show.

Speaker 40 Where is our Peabody Award?

Speaker 1 Okay, try one.

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Speaker 1 Nothing beats. Wow.

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Speaker 1 That's the winner. That's the winner.
Hey, everybody, it's time for John's coveted tip of the day.

Speaker 1 green fast for you and me just the tip with j c d

Speaker 1 and sometimes at home

Speaker 1 okay first i have a mea culpa to to correct the record on the shen yun knife that whatever that knife was that it we yeah had tip of

Speaker 1 chinese oh no

Speaker 1 which is okay because it's still a folded knife it's chin uh the chinese have taken the japanese uh

Speaker 1 that's why it's cheap best price although i saw the price went up to $75 on Amazon suddenly. It's normally $75.
I think we sold out of the sale price ones.

Speaker 1 I was bought one.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you had to get them right away. So

Speaker 1 $75 is still cheap because that's a $250 plus knife if it was Japanese.

Speaker 1 I probably knew this, but the pattern, the classic

Speaker 1 pattern that you get on the knife

Speaker 1 from dipping it in water and folding the blade so much that's on there.

Speaker 1 It's like they've toned it down.

Speaker 1 I think the Japanese emphasize it. So they put die or something and they make it look really, so it really stands out.
But it's still a killer knife.

Speaker 1 I got a number of notes from people telling me to make sure I correct the record on the origin of this knife.

Speaker 1 All right, so this is the eggnog recipe this time. Ooh, oh, is it? Don't tell me this is the Ben and Jerry's Get Drunk recipe.
No, no, no, no. This is a real eggnog recipe.

Speaker 1 And I'm going to read right from it. And this comes from no, this is one of the 20 eggnog recipes or 10 to 20.
I don't know how many there are in the too many eggs.com.

Speaker 1 Go to too many eggs.com and download the PDF. Oh, you got it.
You got in trouble. Well,

Speaker 1 how did I get in trouble? Well, Mimi's like, you're talking about eggnog. You didn't promote my book.

Speaker 1 Well, no, she never said that. I'm just promoting the book.

Speaker 1 But there's plenty of eggnog recipes, including one somebody sent me from Alton Brown, who can't cook, by the way,

Speaker 1 for the aged eggnog, which is also in the cookbook. But this is not the age.
This is the regular make an eggnog the hard way. I'm going to just read it.

Speaker 1 You can tape this or you can just read it.

Speaker 1 Have you tried this recipe? You just.

Speaker 1 Mimi has. Okay.
And she's done all these egg recipes. But

Speaker 1 the recipe is in the show notes. I'm going to read it.
And I'm going to read her writing. She wrote it.
Since many people don't like raw egg eggnog,

Speaker 1 that's what I would have. It's too late, and it's too late for an aged eggnog.
I give you the cooked eggnog, an extravagant drink for the upper class. Winter eggs are an expensive luxury.

Speaker 1 Typically, the eggnog toast was on and she goes on.

Speaker 1 Here's the classic, basic, warm eggnog recipe: six eggs beaten, one quarter cup sugar, one quarter cup, or one quarter teaspoon of salt, one cinnamon stick, four cups of milk

Speaker 1 or milk and cream,

Speaker 1 one teaspoon of vanilla extract, a quarter teaspoon of nutmeg, a quarter teaspoon of allspice, massive addition of some alcohol before serving. Stir nutmeg in as a garnish.

Speaker 1 Here we go. In a saucepan, mix the beaten egg, salt, cinnamon stick, and two cups of milk.
Heat over low heat, ideally in a double boiler, but on the stove directly if you are careful.

Speaker 1 Stir constantly until the mixture gets to 160. Do not allow the milk to boil.
Mixture will thicken slightly. Remove from heat.
Stir in remaining milk and the vanilla extracts.

Speaker 1 Stir in ground nutmeg and allspice. Pour into a container and refrigerate overnight.
Then you can add your booze.

Speaker 1 There's your recipe.

Speaker 1 I don't know if it's the tip of the day, but that's what everyone wanted, mainly you.

Speaker 1 I didn't need to hear you tell me how to make it. I've got the word doc right here in the show notes.

Speaker 1 Eggnog, it's good. Mibi told me to do it.
She's got a knife to my throat, people. Go make this eggnog.
Because that's what happened. We know what happened.
There it is.

Speaker 1 Find it at noagendafun.com, tipoftheday.net.

Speaker 1 Create a mask for you and me, just the tip with JCD

Speaker 1 and sometimes at home. Created by Dana Bernetti.
That is too manyeggs.com, everybody, because I don't want to get in trouble.

Speaker 1 You know, the women of the No Agenda Show, they don't mess around.

Speaker 1 They want you to promote their stuff.

Speaker 1 We're doing it.

Speaker 1 All right, everybody, that is it.

Speaker 1 Excuse me.

Speaker 1 Hairball.

Speaker 1 Hey, let me see. Coming up next on your No Agenda stream, we have...
Oh, there it is. You don't want to tune out Grimerica episode number 740 with your co-host, John C.
Dvorak of the No Agenda Show.

Speaker 1 It'll be rolling out right after this.

Speaker 1 Well worth hanging around.

Speaker 1 End of show mixes from MVP, and we've got a spam call because everything sucks on the internet. You'll like that one a lot.

Speaker 1 And I'm getting ready for the kids to arrive. It should be fun.
Coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country where the lights are all Christmassy and cute.

Speaker 1 In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, where I remain, I'm John C.
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