1822 - "Kohanna"

Speaker 1 Call of Office, egg, dag, dang, dang.

Speaker 3 Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.

Speaker 5 It's Thursday, December 4th, 2025.

Speaker 6 This is your award-winning Kidmo Nation Media Assassination episode 1822.

Speaker 7 This is no agenda.

Speaker 8 Placing crazy bats and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA, region number six in the morning, everybody.

Speaker 1 I'm Adam Curry. Man from Northern Silicon Valley, where we're celebrating the fact that they caught the bet Mad Bomber.
I'm John C. Dvorak.

Speaker 14 It's Crackbot and Buzzkill in the morning.

Speaker 16 Well, here's what caught my eye as the quad screen lit up with We've Got the Bomber.

Speaker 19 We were told by Glenn Beck's forensic analyst that it was a woman.

Speaker 22 And they were 99%

Speaker 23 sure.

Speaker 1 Well, I guess somebody was wrong.

Speaker 2 Yeah, how about that?

Speaker 24 Who is this guy?

Speaker 1 Some guy lives in a really fancy house.

Speaker 2 Really?

Speaker 1 Yeah, the house is dynamite.

Speaker 17 Oh, well, it'll be up for sale soon.

Speaker 1 Cheap. Well, I mean, he might be bored, or he might be, who knows? They haven't explained it.
Yeah.

Speaker 28 So weird.

Speaker 3 I mean,

Speaker 1 they're all patented. They had this huge press conference.
They're all patting each other on the back and then condemning the old Biden administration.

Speaker 15 Oh, yeah. They knew.

Speaker 22 They knew. They didn't do anything.
They sat on this court.

Speaker 1 They sat on it.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 29 I love it.

Speaker 31 Seeing Judge Janine speak in that official role is just wrong.

Speaker 33 There's something wrong about it.

Speaker 35 You know,

Speaker 36 the worlds of show business and politics, when they collide like that, it's odd.

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, Bongino is up there too, yakking away.

Speaker 26 Oh, right.

Speaker 1 He got cut off.

Speaker 2 Oh, by whom?

Speaker 1 No, it just screen went blank. They had a glitch.

Speaker 39 Oh, what was he saying?

Speaker 40 Code Bongino?

Speaker 1 I don't know what. No, he was doing the same thing as Patel.
Everybody else. Yeah, you know, we're great.
It took forever. And we had a big team, and we worked 24-7.

Speaker 41 Yeah, 33 hours non-stop.

Speaker 1 We had millions and millions of detailed pieces of evidence that we had to go through and analyze.

Speaker 1 The other guys are too lazy to do it.

Speaker 43 Yeah, those guys.

Speaker 2 Fresh eyes.

Speaker 1 Every cliche from every movie you've ever seen.

Speaker 24 Fresh eyes. I like that.

Speaker 44 Fresh eyes. That's good.

Speaker 40 Fresh eyes is fantastic.

Speaker 41 Well, that, of course, is not the,

Speaker 46 I mean, they're real busy, obviously, because now that we've uncovered this, who knows what will happen with the Epstein files?

Speaker 48 We're all waiting with bated breath.

Speaker 50 But wait, we have new pictures.

Speaker 51 House Democrats released more than 150 still images and more than a dozen short videos of the Caribbean estate of late convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.

Speaker 51 The images do not show any people at the Lavish home on a private island in the U.S. Virgin Islands.

Speaker 51 They do show the compound's pool areas, several bedrooms and bathrooms, and a room room that mysteriously contains a dental chair. And you saw the walls are adorned with masks of men's faces.

Speaker 51 Congress is waiting for the Justice Department to release the so-called Epstein files, all of them.

Speaker 51 Justice must do so within 30 days of President Trump signing the Epstein Files Transparency Act on November 19th.

Speaker 55 This was great.

Speaker 33 I love this picture of the dentist's chair with these protruding masks on the wall.

Speaker 27 It's just, what is, what in the world is that?

Speaker 1 What is going on there?

Speaker 60 And how can we know of any pictures of Zorro Ranch?

Speaker 62 That's the place where I was probably most interested.

Speaker 1 That's a question. One of the unanswered questions.
The other one to me is, hey,

Speaker 1 they had a room full of videotapes.

Speaker 2 Nobody wants to talk about that. Well, hold on a second, because Ro Kahna, Ro Kahana,

Speaker 57 was on with the poopmeister, Anderson Pooper, and he has some stuff to say about it.

Speaker 52 Tonight we're getting an inside look at some of the rooms

Speaker 52 Words. Political.

Speaker 46 Power, deception, words.

Speaker 52 There's also this video showing the manicured grounds of the estate with palm trees and winding paths and a large pool.

Speaker 1 Oh, no.

Speaker 52 The Department of Justice has 16 days before they have to release documents related to its investigation.

Speaker 31 I wonder, is the Democrat the listing agent for this island or something?

Speaker 63 Because

Speaker 11 it really is like a sales video.

Speaker 33 Like, oh, that kitchen looks nice.

Speaker 69 Yeah, I can do without the crazy dentist chair, but everything else is pretty cool.

Speaker 52 Epstein is required by the bill that Congress passed and President Trump recently signed into law.

Speaker 52 Now, we learned today that Epstein's accomplice, Gillene Maxwell, is planning to file a petition asking a judge to release her from prison.

Speaker 52 She's serving a 20-year sentence for her sex trafficking conviction.

Speaker 52 Joining us tonight, California Congressman Roe Conna, a member of the oversight committee, who along with Republican Congressman Thomas Massey led the fight to pass that bill, forcing the release of the Epstein file.

Speaker 52 So, Congressman, I mean, do these video images fill in any blanks for you, raise any new questions? I'm wondering if what stands out to you.

Speaker 6 What stands out is the dentist's chair.

Speaker 70 Well, the dentist's chair was concerning to me. Obviously, we need to know the facts, but what we need to know is: were underage girls abused on that chair? What happened there?

Speaker 70 What we do know from the survivors is their fillings.

Speaker 1 Maybe they had a dentist on board down there. It was a part of the deal.
You

Speaker 29 get a

Speaker 2 free cleaning.

Speaker 15 Hey, come to the island.

Speaker 56 We got a dentist on staff.

Speaker 1 We can get you free cleaning. We can do it.
We can bleach the teeth a little bit. You look a little better.
You can change your jaw.

Speaker 70 What we need to know is were underage girls abused on that chair?

Speaker 74 What happened there?

Speaker 70 What we do know from the survivors is there are many such photos in the Epstein files. We know that from the survivors and their lawyers, all of those need to be released.

Speaker 70 Every file, every photo, every interview memorandum while protecting victims need to be released by federal law in the next 16 days.

Speaker 2 Hey, wait, wait.

Speaker 1 Why didn't he mention the videotapes?

Speaker 33 No, no, no, no.

Speaker 59 Actually, this interview goes in an unexpected direction.

Speaker 33 I got two more clips here.

Speaker 52 Do you expect, I mean, do you know what to expect in 16 days in terms of what level of redaction there's going to be?

Speaker 52 Have you gotten any word from the Department of Justice how they are handling this?

Speaker 70 Congressman Massey and I have requested to meet with Attorney General Pambondi or someone on her team handling the investigation. So far, we have not heard back.
We're going to continue to pursue it.

Speaker 70 Of course, Congressman Massey is on the Judiciary Committee, so Pam Bondi will be coming before that committee.

Speaker 70 But now every person at the Justice Department who does not cooperate in releasing these files would be violating federal law. They would be subject to federal penalties.

Speaker 70 So we expect that there will be a release, and we're going to continue to fight to make sure that it is transparent and complete.

Speaker 52 Your committee says it's also received about 5,000 documents in response to subpoenas to J.P. Morgan, Deutsche Bank for Epstein's financial records.

Speaker 52 I don't know how much of those the committee has been able to review, but do they, I mean, what do you hope to find in those documents?

Speaker 52 Does anything connect any dots for you?

Speaker 70 Well, the committee is going through that. There are a lot of documents, but the big question is, how is Jeffrey Epstein, a former school teacher, worth a half a billion dollars? Who is funding him?

Speaker 70 Why are people giving him this money?

Speaker 70 And what was he doing for this money? Those are things that we're going to get from these documents. As you know, Senator Wyden Wyden has been investigating this in the Senate for over a year.

Speaker 70 That is going to be critical to understanding who all was involved.

Speaker 57 That took a sudden change turn all of a sudden.

Speaker 64 We went from victims to who was funding him, what's the money flows.

Speaker 78 We're looking into that.

Speaker 79 That should get some people

Speaker 2 rather worried, particularly

Speaker 33 in the banking sector.

Speaker 81 How about Chase?

Speaker 1 Jamie Diamond.

Speaker 33 Jamie Diamond, Chase.

Speaker 72 By the way, thank you, trolls.

Speaker 16 Jeffrey Epstein's last known girlfriend, Karina Shuliak, was a dentist from Belarus whom he reportedly paid to put through dental school.

Speaker 45 She's listed as a dentistry practitioner in St.

Speaker 68 Thomas with over five years of experience in the field.

Speaker 69 Shuliak was dating Epstein at the time of his arrest and death in 2019.

Speaker 88 He made his final phone call to her from jail.

Speaker 2 Oh no!

Speaker 60 They had a dentist chair there because his girlfriend was a dentist.

Speaker 77 Oh no.

Speaker 46 Can nobody do Google searches anymore?

Speaker 1 That's funny.

Speaker 33 That seems like an obvious search.

Speaker 1 Well, somebody in the chat room or the troll room could do them.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 84 Well, that's why we're the best podcast in the universe.

Speaker 90 Yeah,

Speaker 1 it's instant.

Speaker 48 And honestly, I didn't even think to look of it myself, but all right.

Speaker 2 Well, that's not, whoa, was anyone abused?

Speaker 82 Well, I don't know. If it was a bad root canal, maybe.

Speaker 42 Maybe.

Speaker 33 Kohana goes on here.

Speaker 52 We've talked about Ghalain Maxwell

Speaker 52 planning to ask the judge for.

Speaker 39 Who is his new name? Yeah, Kohana.

Speaker 93 Kohana.

Speaker 95 Thank you for catching that.

Speaker 77 Kohana, yes.

Speaker 52 Her from prison according to a new court filing. What do you think the chances of that actually are, given the unknowns of

Speaker 52 the interview she had with President Trump's former personal attorney, who's now, you know, high-level the Department of Justice? What do you think is going to happen there?

Speaker 70 It would be a slap in the face of the survivors, Anderson. As you imagine, I've gotten to know some of these survivors.
I've spent time with them.

Speaker 70 When you mention Ghelane Maxwell's name, they have a trauma and an anger. This is someone who abused them.
This is someone who facilitated their abuse.

Speaker 70 The fact that we're even discussing any leniency for her or letting her out of jail is frankly disgusting. And the survivors themselves get so emotional when people bring up Maxwell.

Speaker 52 A House Oversight Committee spokesperson today earlier today criticized Democrats on the committee, your committee, for releasing these videos and photos saying, quote, it is odd that Democrats are once again releasing selective information as they have done before.

Speaker 52 I'm wondering what your response to that is.

Speaker 98 Let's release it all.

Speaker 70 That's what Massey and my bill does. If you don't think there's anything there, get the files out.
If you think it's selective, get the files out.

Speaker 70 Let's finally get the information out there, most importantly, because of the thousand survivors, and that's what they want. And so we end this kind of blame game and name-calling.

Speaker 70 Let's just get it all out there in the next 16 days.

Speaker 2 Yeah,

Speaker 69 blame game, name-calling, get it.

Speaker 101 You know, name-calling.

Speaker 15 I don't know.

Speaker 84 It wouldn't surprise me.

Speaker 1 What's he talking about?

Speaker 20 Kohana's off his rocker.

Speaker 67 i it wouldn't surprise me if in the emails and the documents we literally find an email that says hey when you're down here you know my girlfriend can can clean your teeth it wouldn't surprise me

Speaker 107 you make a joke about it but

Speaker 1 i mean really rich people have weird things in their homes it's true you know what i mean it's like yeah i used to go one to one time i was in bill ziff's office and

Speaker 1 upstairs in some of the famous Ziff Davis publishing empire yes and he but he had an office in a penthouse someplace. This is not the office at the magazine.
It was his house office.

Speaker 15 This sounds like another story I have never heard before.

Speaker 1 Well, it's not much to it. But all I remember is that we're having this conversation, and all of a sudden this haircutter comes in.
Yeah. And I'm just chatting with him.

Speaker 1 And next thing you know, he's got a barber's thing around his neck and the guy's trimming his hair in front of me.

Speaker 40 I remember once being at this really well, this was when I was very young, doing the pirate radio stuff, and I had to go to one of our big sponsors, and this was clearly some kind of drug gangster, some narco-gangster.

Speaker 84 He had this huge house in Amsterdam.

Speaker 16 It consisted of half of a canal block.

Speaker 64 And, you know, and I think I had to pick up some videotapes.

Speaker 37 I don't remember exactly what it was.

Speaker 31 He had Western House and

Speaker 57 Western House.

Speaker 40 I forget the other name.

Speaker 78 He had like stores, boutique stores, probably all money laundering.

Speaker 84 And all of a sudden, I see a member of parliament on a 10-speed bike just driving through the house.

Speaker 20 You know, it's like that kind of stuff is

Speaker 36 normal for these Jamokes. So, you know,

Speaker 2 in spandex.

Speaker 1 Was he wearing clothes?

Speaker 109 Yeah,

Speaker 33 he had one of those spandex riding outfits on.

Speaker 57 Like, what are you doing? Yeah, just riding around. Okay.

Speaker 46 Anyway, we have to,

Speaker 46 this dental chair, this is it, people.

Speaker 113 I also would have wished that Virginia was alive today. I would have have asked her all about that dentist chair and what that meant and what that was.

Speaker 113 Because to me, there's something sadistic about it.

Speaker 52 I mean, it's bizarre to have a dentist chair and somebody's private history.

Speaker 113 No one wants to go to the dentist.

Speaker 60 I mean, seriously, this is one of the easiest things to look up.

Speaker 113 That's nuts. The dentist, there's something dark about it.

Speaker 114 Dark.

Speaker 114 The mask.

Speaker 2 Wait, hold on a second.

Speaker 105 Hold on a second.

Speaker 16 I have to stick up for my dental professionals here. Hold on a second.

Speaker 52 Bizarre to have a dentist chair in somebody's private house.

Speaker 113 Also, just no one wants to go to the dentist. There's something dark about it.

Speaker 20 No, I love going to the dentist.

Speaker 40 That's, you know, I just want to say something for our dental professionals.

Speaker 96 You guys really get the short end of the stick.

Speaker 99 I love getting my teeth cleaned.

Speaker 69 I love hanging out there.

Speaker 72 I love the dentist.

Speaker 1 I love hanging out.

Speaker 100 I hang out at the dentist.

Speaker 1 Hey, what are you doing this afternoon? I'm going to go over to the dental office and hang out because it's so much fun.

Speaker 50 I'm serious, though.

Speaker 45 I was like, what are you doing?

Speaker 48 What's that instrument for?

Speaker 66 How does that thing work?

Speaker 60 You know, once you, once you...

Speaker 1 You You should have become a dentist. I think this is what we're doing.

Speaker 1 This is a cry for help.

Speaker 38 It is.

Speaker 5 Everything is.

Speaker 1 Help me to become a dentist.

Speaker 44 It's my late age.

Speaker 1 Can I make the switch?

Speaker 84 Can I still do it?

Speaker 116 Podcast a dentist.

Speaker 117 There's a leeriness to it all.

Speaker 117 It's almost like you're walking through a crime stage.

Speaker 44 What kind of word is leeriness?

Speaker 2 Leariness.

Speaker 44 Leariness.

Speaker 38 There's a leeriness to it.

Speaker 106 That's an interesting question.

Speaker 1 What do you think? That's not a word. There's not a word leeriness.

Speaker 118 Well, should we ask the robot to make sure?

Speaker 25 Yeah, ask the robot.

Speaker 42 Hey, robot.

Speaker 60 Tell me about the word leeriness.

Speaker 119 Is that a real word?

Speaker 120 Mm-hmm.

Speaker 121 Leariness is a real word. It means awariness, caution, or a state of being leery.
Like if you're suspicious about something and not quite trusting.

Speaker 90 All right.

Speaker 1 Okay, well, it fits in then. I was wrong.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 53 Well, of course we have to trust AI.

Speaker 42 I mean, our overlord is.

Speaker 1 AI is never wrong. Never.

Speaker 117 The masks on the wall.

Speaker 117 There's a leeriness to it all.

Speaker 117 It's almost like you're walking through a crime scene. I mean, you are walking through a crime scene.

Speaker 56 Oh, I saw the pictures.

Speaker 24 I saw the pictures.

Speaker 69 It does not look like a crime scene.

Speaker 82 It looks like a real estate portfolio.

Speaker 123 is what it looks like.

Speaker 2 Well, okay.

Speaker 18 Dressing it up a bit here.

Speaker 117 A crime scene. I mean, you are walking through a crime scene.

Speaker 113 When I see the rooms, they're kind of hotel-type rooms, could be for anybody.

Speaker 114 Scary. It has to be.

Speaker 52 Yeah, I mean, there's kind of no personality other than sort of creepiness to

Speaker 125 these things.

Speaker 52 Otherwise, there is this sort of

Speaker 52 anonymity to it, of sort of anonymous hotel rooms somewhere in the Caribbean.

Speaker 117 Exactly. And it's interesting.

Speaker 113 You could even see from the picture of

Speaker 113 the cameras. I mean, there are cameras everywhere.
They're being recorded.

Speaker 114 You could say for security, but also

Speaker 2 Where's the tape?

Speaker 50 Where's the tapes?

Speaker 113 That they believe that they were always being recorded there.

Speaker 114 Even the statues are weird, like the one by the pool.

Speaker 113 And I think it's important for us to have this documentary evidence, especially when you have the president of the United States.

Speaker 29 There's a stall.

Speaker 1 This is going nowhere.

Speaker 56 It's nine more seconds.

Speaker 1 They're yak, yak, yak, yakking about nothing.

Speaker 117 Folks, seeing is believing.

Speaker 114 See the place where he lived. And

Speaker 117 he's wealth porn.

Speaker 5 This is wealthy.

Speaker 1 People are going to drop clichés on us.

Speaker 79 I'm dumping this.

Speaker 1 Hey, picture's worth a thousand words.

Speaker 29 That's right.

Speaker 33 Seeing is believing.

Speaker 2 That's right.

Speaker 89 Oh, man.

Speaker 46 Ah, that's good.

Speaker 56 It gives everybody something to talk about.

Speaker 19 That's always fun.

Speaker 16 I mean, what is the point of the Democrats releasing these photos?

Speaker 119 What is the actual point?

Speaker 57 Is it to draw everyone's attention back?

Speaker 53 I mean, it doesn't make a lot of sense midterm-wise, which everything should be about.

Speaker 2 Everything.

Speaker 86 you know.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, I think you're right. Everything should be about the midterms.
And

Speaker 1 they somehow think they're going to,

Speaker 1 I don't know what they're thinking, but they seem to think there's a benefit to this. They're really a lost cause, these guys.
Yeah. It's a miracle.

Speaker 52 I think they will take the midterms, but it's

Speaker 1 kind of baffling that they can even get anybody to vote for them.

Speaker 42 Well, I mean,

Speaker 46 everything, well, although this

Speaker 118 double-tap double-tap war crime, this is my favorite, this is the best story ever.

Speaker 100 The American military has done atrocious things for our freedom, for their democracy, all over the world.

Speaker 36 But now we're blowing up some drug boats and everyone loses their ever-loving mind.

Speaker 34 And I think that Matt Taibbi and Walter

Speaker 2 Kern, thank you.

Speaker 18 Walter Kern are correct, that there's probably money on those boats too.

Speaker 16 Although we don't see it like, you know, like fluttering dollars.

Speaker 40 That would be kind of cool if you saw that.

Speaker 100 But this thing seems like a lot of people are very, very,

Speaker 2 I don't believe that.

Speaker 66 I disagree.

Speaker 1 You know, why would there be money on the boats? You, you, you exchange the drugs for the money. You don't carry the money on the boat with the drugs.

Speaker 56 And then you put the money straight into the bank in the Caribbean.

Speaker 38 Yeah.

Speaker 84 And, you know, we discussed when the 2008 crisis, the

Speaker 61 what was it? what do they call it, the the Great

Speaker 126 Recession, the Great Recession.

Speaker 20 If we didn't have drug money flowing, the whole world would have crumbled.

Speaker 64 The drug money flow is so important.

Speaker 17 In fact, we have a this is how far I'll go with this.

Speaker 118 We have, I think they're talking about a liquidity crisis on Wall Street.

Speaker 67 I think that means there's not enough money.

Speaker 84 And there's all kinds of reasons for it.

Speaker 40 We had a government shutdown.

Speaker 47 But could it also be that all this money is, all the value is being blown up in the ocean?

Speaker 105 And that, oh man, we don't have any money coming in.

Speaker 83 Do you think that's possible that it's that much?

Speaker 16 Because I do.

Speaker 1 Well, I don't know about that because it's coming in from every whichway and all over the place. It's only accounting for some of it, maybe 10% at the most.

Speaker 1 And I don't even think that's a good question.

Speaker 18 Well, no, Trump says it's 90%.

Speaker 1 Well, Trump's

Speaker 39 gee, Trump exaggerating.

Speaker 1 Let me write this one down. Let's listen.

Speaker 129 We released a video of that first boat strike on September 2nd, but not the second video. Will you release video of that strike so that the American people can see for themselves what you have?

Speaker 132 I don't know what they have, but whatever they have, we certainly release, no problem.

Speaker 31 We need to start saying that.

Speaker 50 We want to know about the dentist chair because the American people have a right to know about the dentist chair.

Speaker 46 The American people who pay their taxes have an absolute right.

Speaker 49 I am a journalist.

Speaker 132 You know, we stopped. Every boat we knock out, we save 25,000 American lives.

Speaker 55 Yeah,

Speaker 16 I think we've now saved or created 300 million people with the amount of boats we've blown out of the water.

Speaker 1 We've blown up, what, 20 boats now or more?

Speaker 2 So that's

Speaker 69 20 times

Speaker 2 25,000.

Speaker 77 So it's half a million.

Speaker 123 Am I saying that right? Yeah.

Speaker 31 Half a million lives have been saved or created, Mr.

Speaker 73 President. Good work.

Speaker 132 And

Speaker 132 if you look at our numbers,

Speaker 132 the drugs coming in through sea are down 91%.

Speaker 132 I'm surprised it's 9%.

Speaker 132 I don't know who's doing the 9%,

Speaker 132 but it's down 91%. And we're going to start very soon on land, and I'm sure you're thrilled to hear this.

Speaker 129 If it is found that survivors were actually killed while clinging on to that boat, should Secretary Hebseth, Admiral Bradley, or others be punished?

Speaker 132 I think you're going to find that this is war, that these people were killing our people by the millions, actually, if you look over a few years.

Speaker 132 I think last year we lost close to 300,000 people were killed. That's not mentioning all the families.
Have you seen what happens with the families?

Speaker 132 Not only the people who are killed, but people that are trying to get their son or their daughter off of this poison that they've been fed. I think you're going to find that there's a

Speaker 132 very receptive ear to doing exactly what they're doing, taking out those boats.

Speaker 132 And very soon we're going to start doing it on land, too, because we know every route, we know every house, we know where they manufacture this crap, we know where they put it all together.

Speaker 132 And I think you're going to see it very soon on land also.

Speaker 64 Yeah, but to be clear, ah, now I see.

Speaker 46 How about he's going to

Speaker 137 take out these drug manufacturing operations with airstrikes?

Speaker 16 Not boots on the ground, but airstrikes.

Speaker 44 Yeah.

Speaker 40 That's what it sounds like to me.

Speaker 2 We know.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 67 And by the way, according to Zero Hedge, and they would know, cocaine inflation erupts in Europe after U.S.

Speaker 43 strikes.

Speaker 1 Just backing the two of us up.

Speaker 61 Yep.

Speaker 10 30 to 45% per kilo more expensive.

Speaker 16 By the way, so I knew a couple of drug dealers in Amsterdam, marijuana drug dealers.

Speaker 40 I don't think they did cocaine.

Speaker 90 They might have done pills as well, ecstasy, but nice people.

Speaker 22 You know,

Speaker 103 they would smuggle the stuff into the country in

Speaker 115 flight cases for uh music musical gear speaker cases all kinds of stuff and they had and everyone was paid off i mean not i don't know that for sure but obviously and those people alone were multi-millionaires they had millions of dollars they had houses all over the world and they were one step above retail

Speaker 142 So just think about what's going back to the cartels and the manufacturers.

Speaker 34 It's got to be a multiple of that.

Speaker 128 It's got to be hundreds of billions, hundreds of billions.

Speaker 84 So I think it does make a difference.

Speaker 16 By the way, you got a Boots on the Ground

Speaker 64 from

Speaker 67 the Netherlands.

Speaker 143 And

Speaker 103 he's a documentary filmmaker, and he was part of making a series about the Dutch Navy and Coast Guard in the Caribbean for National Geographic.

Speaker 123 So this is older.

Speaker 56 It was about protecting the waters around the Dutch Antilles.

Speaker 53 Different subjects in an episode, of course, but also a lot of drug traffic operations.

Speaker 40 From the footage provided to us by the Coast Guard in the interviews we made, I can tell you that the Dutch, working with the U.S., have had operations in this region for probably a decade or longer, decades, sometimes with extreme measures like taking out drug boats with force.

Speaker 141 Unfortunately, we weren't allowed to show the blowing up or machine gunning of drug boats in the series.

Speaker 56 due to sensitive due to the sensitive nature of the subject in the Netherlands.

Speaker 36 Yeah, no kidding, it's our dough.

Speaker 84 What we did show is that the boats get chased down by fast boats or choppers.

Speaker 57 They get at least four warnings over the portophone.

Speaker 16 Most give up and get boarded and arrested.

Speaker 142 If they don't stop to get boarded, they get their engine shot by marksmen from the chopper.

Speaker 139 If this doesn't work or they fight back, they get machine gunned or blown up.

Speaker 69 He says this has been going on forever.

Speaker 79 But now, all of a sudden, this is a huge issue.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Midterms.

Speaker 67 We have the best producers in the universe.

Speaker 69 The best, hands down.

Speaker 1 Well, that's what happens. You accumulate.

Speaker 90 Yes.

Speaker 18 So, let me see. We have.

Speaker 118 That's a good story.

Speaker 31 What's interesting about this

Speaker 4 is

Speaker 108 this little diddy, which got some play.

Speaker 145 The 57-year-old former president of Honduras was found guilty in a U.S. federal court of working with drug cartels, conspiring to distribute more than 400 tons of cocaine toward the United States.

Speaker 145 He was found to have taken millions of dollars in bribes, and prosecutors said he bragged about all of it.

Speaker 1 Hernandez declared that he wanted, and I quote, to stuff the drugs right up the noses of the gringos.

Speaker 145 Witnesses at trial said Juan Orlando Hernandez used Honduran military units to escort drug shipments.

Speaker 145 A federal jury in New York took only about nine hours to deliberate and convict him on importation and weapons charges. He was sentenced to 45 years in federal prison.

Speaker 145 But all of that changed this week when he was pardoned by President Trump.

Speaker 132 I feel very good about it.

Speaker 132 If you have some drug dealers in your country and you're the president, you don't necessarily put the president in jail for 45 years.

Speaker 145 President Trump called Hernandez's trial last year a witch hunt by the Biden administration, although there were no allegations of prosecutorial misconduct.

Speaker 147 It was a case that the Justice Department had built over a number of years against Juan Orlando that dated back to the trial of his brother Tony.

Speaker 145 Hernandez's brother Tony was tried and convicted for charges related to drug trafficking by the first Trump administration in 2019. Democrats and some Republicans in Congress are slamming the pardon.

Speaker 145 Republican Senator Rand Paul said it flies in the face of the Trump administration's escalating campaign against drug cartels in the region.

Speaker 16 So if you look up the history of this, and of course, everyone's flummicks, how can he be blowing up drug boats but letting this guy go free?

Speaker 31 First of all, his brother Tony,

Speaker 124 he was the drug dealer.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and it seems to me, just before you continue,

Speaker 1 based on just what that was in that report, that Tony was the bad guy. This guy was an innocent, basically, you know, a brother, but he's an innocent bystander for all practical purposes.

Speaker 1 And the Trump administration must have known that back in the first administration. And then the guy got caught up and thrown in the slammer.

Speaker 1 But, but the Trump people already knew that he was not a guilty guy.

Speaker 105 Yes. And

Speaker 42 like

Speaker 1 eight years ago, five years ago.

Speaker 86 But he was thrown in the slammer in 2024.

Speaker 69 So his brother went to jail in 2019 during Trump administration.

Speaker 41 In fact, as president, Hernandez positioned himself as a key U.S.

Speaker 84 ally in the war on drugs, which of course is a joke, but he oversaw the extradition of over two dozen high-profile drug traffickers to the United States, including figures linked to major cartels.

Speaker 53 This included cooperation with U.S.

Speaker 142 agencies like DEA, which would have given him access to intelligence on cartel structures, routes, and the leaders in Honduras,

Speaker 40 Honduras, a critical transit hub for cocaine from South America to the U.S.

Speaker 69 I'm thinking this guy has some valuable information,

Speaker 33 and this will make

Speaker 40 a lot of financial people very nervous.

Speaker 56 If he actually knows not just

Speaker 16 how the drugs flow, but he knows how the money flows, this could be a very interesting guy to talk to.

Speaker 69 And all he really got convicted of was, you know, supposedly $1 million campaign or bribe they call it but campaign contribution but was categorized as a bribe from uh el chapo

Speaker 93 um

Speaker 148 and the rest was just witnesses who just said no no no that guy's guilty he's no good

Speaker 1 you know this is another thing this i don't want to go off track because i have this three by three to do but i want to play this uh trump's been pardoning is doing weird pardons he does and he does it in in in you know in kind of a linear fashion.

Speaker 1 He doesn't wait till the end of his administration and then pardon a million people.

Speaker 1 And he pardoned this Kwayar guy who was the Democrat from Texas. Democrat

Speaker 15 from Texas. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Who was

Speaker 1 arrested?

Speaker 43 Can I just stop you for a second?

Speaker 19 Do I have all your clips? I don't have a three by three.

Speaker 89 Do I have all your clips?

Speaker 1 You better.

Speaker 2 No,

Speaker 16 I mean, I got your clips this morning,

Speaker 69 but I don't see that in there.

Speaker 37 Quay our guy? Let me check. Let me double check, man.

Speaker 1 This is no. Maybe I should go resend the clips.

Speaker 2 I will.

Speaker 123 It's possible.

Speaker 138 No,

Speaker 3 I don't.

Speaker 40 I mean, I have only 20 clips.

Speaker 1 I got more than that on here.

Speaker 40 Yeah. Well, that was not in your email.

Speaker 45 This is we have a production issue.

Speaker 26 Yes.

Speaker 67 Do you want to send me those real quick?

Speaker 1 We're going to have to stop tape.

Speaker 85 Okay. Tape has been restarted.
We're back.

Speaker 41 And I'm glad people have to understand that in preparation for this show, there is no collusion at all.

Speaker 21 Any collusion?

Speaker 73 There's no conversations.

Speaker 95 We don't talk about anything.

Speaker 53 I show up. You show up.

Speaker 33 You send me clips.

Speaker 40 I don't look at the clips.

Speaker 86 I don't listen to the clips because I want to be just as surprised and delighted as everybody else.

Speaker 90 So

Speaker 2 what were you looking for?

Speaker 44 The

Speaker 119 Quear, yes. Oh, the pardon.

Speaker 1 The pardon. Yeah.

Speaker 25 Okay, Quear.

Speaker 127 And how do you spell Queyar?

Speaker 1 C-U-E.

Speaker 62 Oh, like cellular. I got it.

Speaker 130 President Trump pardoning Texas Representative Henry Queyar and his wife Imelda. Queyar was indicted last year on more than a dozen federal charges.

Speaker 130 And the president declaring a historic reset of fuel economy standards. We now go live to our Washington correspondent, Mari Otsu, at the north lawn of the White House.
Mari, good evening.

Speaker 149 Tiff, good evening. Yes, Texas Democratic Representative Henry Queyar was an outspoken critic of former President Joe Biden's border policies.

Speaker 149 And back in May 2024, he and his wife Imelda were indicted for allegedly accepting nearly $600,000 in bribes in exchange for influencing U.S. foreign policy in favor of Azerbaijan and a Mexican bank.

Speaker 149 Queyar and his wife have denied all of these charges.

Speaker 149 And President Trump today is announcing his, his, quote, full and unconditional pardon of both of the Quayars on Truth Social, saying, quote, for years the Biden administration has weaponized the justice system against their political opponents and anyone who disagreed with them.

Speaker 149 He also adds that one of the clearest examples of this was when Biden used both the FBI and the DOJ to quote take out a member of his own party, referring to Quayar, as bravely speaking out against open borders and what President Trump calls the Biden border catastrophe.

Speaker 149 Take a look.

Speaker 132 He's a respected person. He was treated very badly because he said that people should not be allowed to pour into our country.
And he was right. He didn't like open borders.

Speaker 132 He represents the people on the border, and he saw what was happening. And as soon as he made that statement, I then said, I'll bet he gets indicted.

Speaker 60 And that's what happened.

Speaker 132 He got indicted for speaking the truth. And his wife got indicted, Imilda.

Speaker 152 And

Speaker 132 that's sort of a first. Usually they leave the wives alone.

Speaker 1 Now he. I had a little comment at the end that usually they, like the mob.

Speaker 2 Oh, good, good catch.

Speaker 1 Leave the wives alone.

Speaker 67 Well, what I caught in there is some Mexican bank.

Speaker 33 When I hear that, I'm like, uh-huh.

Speaker 42 Yeah.

Speaker 16 What about the Mexican bank?

Speaker 110 Did he know something about some cash going into the Mexican bank?

Speaker 1 I have no idea what the deal is with the Mexican Mexican bank, but I heard that too, the Mexican bank, and then Azure by John. I mean, we took a big bribe for them.

Speaker 143 What?

Speaker 79 What is that? What?

Speaker 26 Yeah.

Speaker 83 So they got the COP 30 or something.

Speaker 57 I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 80 Yeah.

Speaker 64 All of this feels so North Sea Nexus to me.

Speaker 127 It just feels like it.

Speaker 67 Yeah, especially with Hernandez.

Speaker 20 You know,

Speaker 69 maybe getting some interesting information.

Speaker 1 Well, back to the drug boats. Let's play the 3x3 because it concerns Hegseth.
All right.

Speaker 29 Now we're surrounded by the bus.

Speaker 1 And the bullcrap about her surroundings.

Speaker 4 We're singing here, comparing stories from ABC, CBS, and NBC.

Speaker 45 The never-ending 3 by 3. That's right.
We have a 3x3 from the big three, ABC, CBS, NBC, and it's about the bullcrap.

Speaker 31 And where do you want to start?

Speaker 1 Let's start with ABC. Here we go.

Speaker 154 Tonight, under mounting pressure, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth insisting the decision to launch a second strike against a suspected drug boat in September was not his call, but that of the mission's commander, Admiral Mitch Bradley.

Speaker 70 Sunk the boat and eliminated the threat.

Speaker 155 And it was the right call. We have his back.

Speaker 154 The day after the attack, Hegseth said he had watched in real time.

Speaker 101 I watched it live.

Speaker 70 We knew exactly who was in that boat. We knew exactly what they were doing.

Speaker 154 But today, Hegseth said he left before the second strike.

Speaker 155 I watched that first strike live. As you can imagine at the Department of War we got a lot of things to do.

Speaker 155 So I didn't stick around for the hour and two hours, whatever, where all the sensitive site exploitation digitally occurs. So I moved on to my next meeting.

Speaker 154 Hegseth was asked if he saw survivors.

Speaker 155 I did not personally see survivors, but I stand because the thing was on fire. It was exploded and fire is smoke.
You can't see anything. You got digital.

Speaker 3 This is called the fog of war.

Speaker 154 The secretary claims he didn't hear about the second strike until an hour or so later, over the weekend. President Trump said he hadn't known about the second strike and wouldn't have wanted it.

Speaker 5 We'll look into it, but no, I wouldn't have wanted that, not a second strike.

Speaker 44 The first strike was very lethal.

Speaker 5 It was fine. And if there were two people around, but Pete said that didn't happen.

Speaker 154 And today, sitting next to his secretary, the president said he was still somewhat in the dark.

Speaker 132 I still haven't gotten a lot of information because I rely on Pete. But to me, it was an attack.
It wasn't one strike, two strikes, three strikes. Somebody asked me a question about the second strike.

Speaker 132 I didn't know about the second strike. I didn't know anything about people.
I wasn't involved in it. I knew they took out a vote.

Speaker 153 You know, this is all

Speaker 36 this noise is made by the

Speaker 53 appropriations.

Speaker 47 What's the

Speaker 109 war committee?

Speaker 1 The war committee? Yeah,

Speaker 99 who are the people who have oversight over the military?

Speaker 1 Armed Forces Committee?

Speaker 5 No,

Speaker 127 I don't think it's called that.

Speaker 40 I still think this is somehow related to fraud that's going to be uncovered in Ukraine.

Speaker 80 I'm sorry, what?

Speaker 33 Fraud that will be uncovered in Ukraine.

Speaker 2 Fraud.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 going to be? They had a huge case. He's lost a bunch of people.

Speaker 137 Well, you know, but I think we may see some of this tie back to kickbacks.

Speaker 16 This was a lot of money.

Speaker 59 Remember, all of them were saying, hey, man, it's okay because this money comes back to America, comes back to

Speaker 157 our military companies.

Speaker 32 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, a lot of it gets stolen.

Speaker 2 Well, or kickbacks.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's corrupt. Ukraine.
Hello.

Speaker 2 No, but our own.

Speaker 1 I always consider them most corrupt, but I don't know.

Speaker 44 But they have owned people with this.

Speaker 29 Okay.

Speaker 18 They do not like

Speaker 39 it.

Speaker 1 alphabetical order CBS.

Speaker 158 They don't like Hegseth that sitting there.

Speaker 37 That's for sure.

Speaker 1 No, they don't like Hegseth. That's for sure.

Speaker 159 One day after the White House confirmed there was a second strike on a suspected Venezuelan drug boat, President Trump today said he did not know about it.

Speaker 44 I so do

Speaker 132 a lot of information because I rely on Pete, but to me, it was an attack.

Speaker 159 The legality of the September 2nd attack is in question after the Washington Post reported Defense Secretary Pete Hagseth allegedly issued an order to kill everybody, and that Navy Admiral Mitch Bradley apparently ordered the second strike to take out two survivors, fulfilling Hegseth's directive, which many legal experts describe as a war crime.

Speaker 159 Hegseth said he only saw the first strike.

Speaker 8 A couple of hours later, I learned that that commander had made the, which he had the complete authority to do.

Speaker 155 And by the way, Admiral Bradley made the correct decision to ultimately sink the boat and eliminate the threat.

Speaker 159 Trump also pointed to Admiral Bradley.

Speaker 132 I hear the gentleman that was in charge of that is extraordinary. He's an extraordinary person.

Speaker 159 But the DOD's law of war manual states that shipwrecked combatants are in a helpless state, and it would be dishonorable and inhumane to make them the object of an attack.

Speaker 155 I did not personally see survivors, but I stand because the thing was on fire. It was exploded in fire or smoke.
You can't see any digital.

Speaker 3 This is called the fog of war.

Speaker 159 At the the cabinet meeting, the president also talked about his new efforts to pause migration and singled out Minnesota Congresswoman Ilhan Omar, who came to the U.S. as a Somali refugee.

Speaker 132 Ilhan Omar is garbage. She's garbage.

Speaker 2 Her friends are garbage.

Speaker 132 These are people that work, they complain and do nothing but bitch.

Speaker 132 We don't want them in our country.

Speaker 1 Why do they even throw that into the report?

Speaker 66 I'm not sure.

Speaker 31 I do have some stuff on that later.

Speaker 60 I just wanted to point out one thing that on December 2nd, just because Heg Seth, you know, he set up new procurement rules.

Speaker 19 They were going to be looking at different ways of qualifying contractors.

Speaker 128 And the Missile Defense Agency announced on the 2nd

Speaker 69 the 1014 qualifying offers for, here it comes, the Scatable Homeland Innovation Enterprise layered defense program which is an acronym for shield

Speaker 33 it's for the iron dough for the golden dome golden dome that is a worth up to 151 billion dollars and it went to a many small companies

Speaker 161 so if there's a reason for the system to hate hegseth this is a good way to put the spotlight on him and try and get him out.

Speaker 2 Especially when he says dumb stuff like, it was the fog of war, man.

Speaker 44 Yeah, I found that to be so much.

Speaker 75 That's dumb. That's dumb.

Speaker 1 But he's not, you know,

Speaker 1 he's not well liked by some people.

Speaker 44 Oh.

Speaker 1 He's slightly arrogant. He's a guy that kind of arrogance I can see would drive some people nuts.
He's a pretty good person.

Speaker 1 And they keep saying that this other guy, this admiral who was in charge of this operation, they keep saying

Speaker 1 Hexeth threw him under the bus. Hexes did no such thing.

Speaker 27 No.

Speaker 1 He says the guy's great. He did what he's supposed to do.

Speaker 29 I want to do it.

Speaker 24 We know we need some PBS clips because they're always sponsored by Northrop Grumman.

Speaker 16 So we need to hear what they're saying about him.

Speaker 132 I don't have to have PBS.

Speaker 101 We'll have to get.

Speaker 1 This is Steve's project.

Speaker 118 I know. Steve is good about that.

Speaker 1 Steve needs to add the PBS clips.

Speaker 39 It'll be the three before.

Speaker 122 Tonight, President Trump defending, striking a boat allegedly carrying drugs to the U.S.

Speaker 89 twice in early September.

Speaker 132 I want those boats taken out. And if we have to, we'll attack on land also, just like we attack on sea.
And there's very little coming in by sea. I think we've knocked out over 90% of it.

Speaker 122 Two people initially survived. And the administration says the decision for a second strike, killing all on board, was made by Admiral Frank Bradley.

Speaker 122 Today, Defense Secretary Pete Hegset said even though he watched the first part of the attack live, he'd moved on to his next meeting before the second strike.

Speaker 155 Admiral Bradley made the correct decision to ultimately sink the boat and eliminate the threat.

Speaker 155 We have his back and the American people are safer because narco-terrorists know you can't bring drugs through the water.

Speaker 54 So you didn't see any survivors to be clear after that first strike.

Speaker 155 I did not personally see survivors but I stand because the thing was on fire. It was exploded in fire or smoke.
You can't see anything.

Speaker 2 You got killed.

Speaker 3 This is called the fog of war.

Speaker 122 It comes as the administration ramps up its crackdown on illegal immigration. A senior law enforcement official tells NBC News, ICE is planning an operation this morning.

Speaker 64 Oh, hold on a second.

Speaker 87 So now I see what CBS did is what NBC is doing as well.

Speaker 115 They're somehow tying in drug boats and killing people to immigration and ICE.

Speaker 69 It's almost like a mind trick.

Speaker 72 Like, you know,

Speaker 2 think about killing people, you know, boats, borders, stuff, you know,

Speaker 2 brown people.

Speaker 33 Oh, yeah, Somalis.

Speaker 155 Exploded in fire.

Speaker 155 Pirates. Oh, you can't see anything.
You got digital.

Speaker 3 This is called the fog of war.

Speaker 122 It comes as the administration ramps up its crackdown on illegal immigration. A senior law enforcement official tells NBC News

Speaker 122 is planning an operation this week in the Minneapolis-St. Paul area, where there's a large Somali population.

Speaker 130 You told me to look into Minnesota and their fraud on visas and their programs.

Speaker 164 50% of them are fraudulent.

Speaker 122 Federal prosecutors have charged dozens of people in Minnesota's Somali community for allegedly stealing hundreds of millions of dollars in taxpayer money meant for social service programs.

Speaker 132 This beautiful place, and I see these people ripping it off their country's stakes,

Speaker 1 and we don't want them in our country.

Speaker 3 But when they come from hell

Speaker 132 and they complain and do nothing but bitch,

Speaker 132 we don't want them in our country. Let them go back to where they came from and fix it.

Speaker 64 Now, there's an important nuance in what's good.

Speaker 1 This is a good catch.

Speaker 42 Well, yeah.

Speaker 1 Associative news coverage is what it amounts to. And they both associate one with the other.
Yes. Two separate stories.
Let's drag them together and

Speaker 1 make Trump look bad.

Speaker 73 There's an important nuance in the Somali business, which surprisingly ABC tagged in this report.

Speaker 165 This morning, ICE preparing to ramp up enforcement operations in Minnesota as President Trump lashes out at immigrants from Somalia, saying we don't want them in our country and continues to attack Democratic Congresswoman Ilhan Omar.

Speaker 132 We're going to go the wrong way if we keep taking in garbage into our country. Ilan Omar is garbage.
She's garbage. Her friends are garbage.
These aren't people that work.

Speaker 132 These aren't people that say, let's go. Come on, let's make this place great.
These are people that do nothing but complain.

Speaker 132 They complain. And from where they came from, they got nothing.

Speaker 132 You know, they came from paradise and they said this isn't paradise.

Speaker 2 But when they come from hell

Speaker 132 and they complain and do nothing but bitch

Speaker 165 we don't want them in our country minnesota is home to the nation's largest somali population multiple law enforcement officials tell abc news that ice is preparing for a surge operation in the state focusing on st.

Speaker 165 Paul and Minneapolis as early as this week the city's mayor says police won't help ice when they arrive targeting Somali people means that due process will be violated mistakes Mistakes will be made.

Speaker 166 And let's be clear: it means that American citizens will be detained for no other reason than the fact that they look like they are Somali.

Speaker 165 The president criticizing Somalis for weeks now, terminating temporary protected status for Somalis and writing, send them back to where they came from.

Speaker 165 And this morning, the Trump administration cracking down on immigration nationwide, pausing all immigration applications for people from 19 so-called countries of concern, including Somalia, Afghanistan, Venezuela, and Sudan.

Speaker 141 We have to remember that the use of temporary status

Speaker 22 has been abused

Speaker 33 by Biden and by Obama, both, to bring in cheap labor.

Speaker 11 And what I think President Trump here is railing against is, hey, we gave these people temporary protective status because Somali is garbage.

Speaker 2 It's a hellhole.

Speaker 138 And now they're sitting here and bitching around.

Speaker 64 Get them out.

Speaker 33 And he says, all right, you want to be that way?

Speaker 40 You want to steal our money?

Speaker 128 Because wow, Republicans and Democrats both have blown the whistle so many times on Minnesota about hundreds of millions of dollars being stolen.

Speaker 128 And

Speaker 1 it. Did you see the Tucker Carlson interview with

Speaker 1 the woman who says that Tim Walls has been shoveling top secrets to the Chinese? That's why he's taking all his trips to China when he's in the National Guard.

Speaker 33 Oh, no, I remember that part, but I don't remember.

Speaker 67 No, I did not hear this.

Speaker 1 That's it's quite good.

Speaker 41 Well, so somewhere the president called Tim Waltz a retard.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, on Thanksgiving. Well, I have the

Speaker 72 clip. I want to hear the clip.

Speaker 1 Well, I know I have the reaction clip, which is quite good.

Speaker 168 Well, the one on the airplane?

Speaker 1 No. Okay, I know what you're talking about.

Speaker 40 Well, I have Trump responding on the airplane.

Speaker 45 What's your reaction clip?

Speaker 1 I had to know.

Speaker 16 Ah, caught you off guard, didn't I?

Speaker 38 A little bit, yeah.

Speaker 80 yeah well you said

Speaker 80 this

Speaker 1 oh man

Speaker 69 it's such a funny clip too well let me let me play the uh this is short this is trump on the plane being asked do you stand by calling uh governor walls retarded

Speaker 69 in that same post you mentioned tim walls and you called him what many americans do find an offensive word uh retarded do you stand by that claim of calling tim walls retarded yeah i think there's something wrong with them absolutely Sure.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 160 You know what? I think there's something wrong with them.

Speaker 169 Anybody that would do what he did, anybody that would allow those people into his state and pay billions of dollars out to Somalia,

Speaker 169 we give billions of dollars to Somalia. It's not even a country because it doesn't function like a country.
It's got a name, but it doesn't function like a country.

Speaker 94 Yeah, there's something wrong with walls.

Speaker 1 This is the clip. This is the talk.

Speaker 38 This is good.

Speaker 1 This interesting.

Speaker 158 Talk sketch Trump.

Speaker 4 Here's the thing. Okay.

Speaker 170 I'm not a blind Trump supporter.

Speaker 170 I don't really trust any politicians, and I voice my discrepancies with Trump all the time. However, calling Tim Waltz a retard on Thanksgiving Day is exactly what I voted for.

Speaker 20 So

Speaker 1 that was a funny clip from this woman, and it was stolen. The whole gag was stolen by the red-headed libertarian on TikTok

Speaker 1 on Twitter. She did the same gag.

Speaker 119 Oh, really?

Speaker 1 I found it very, and I think it's like, you know, there's no steal people's material.

Speaker 1 We would never do that.

Speaker 79 No, we just write up, take it, and give you credit.

Speaker 1 Now, before we leave the Venezuela thing, I do have a clip from that you would appreciate.

Speaker 1 This is, and I don't understand what happened.

Speaker 100 Oh, no.

Speaker 3 What do you mean, no?

Speaker 26 No.

Speaker 55 No, what?

Speaker 45 It's not the real estate people.

Speaker 1 It's the real estate guy.

Speaker 1 Now, I'd like to know when Clayton Morris turned on Trump.

Speaker 1 He has this woman on who's an apologist for Venezuela's government, and she runs supposedly an international news operation. She's the editor of this thing called Kawashun News.

Speaker 1 It's K-A-W-S-A-C-H-U-Nnews.com. And it's supposed to be international.
I'm going to read the headlines

Speaker 1 from the front page of this. Let me guess.

Speaker 9 Trump sucks.

Speaker 1 The top story is James Cameron's Avatar 3D drops stunning new trailer.

Speaker 21 Okay. And

Speaker 1 that's the top story. It's right at the top of

Speaker 1 what you call the fold. This is the woman's Camilla Escalante.

Speaker 1 And now here's the other headlines. Experts confirm Israel's Gaza assault is genocide.
Bobby Kennedy reignites eugenics debate. Shocking scandal exposed.

Speaker 1 Trump Musk's hunt for social security fraud deemed a sham. And by the way,

Speaker 1 every headline's got an exclamation point at them.

Speaker 108 Of course, it's what you do.

Speaker 1 Donald Trump, emblem of universal decline and collapse.

Speaker 1 GOP's agenda exposed. How they're making your life tougher.
This looks like high school runner slams main GOP lawmaker for targeting trans race winner.

Speaker 162 This looks like my YouTube feed.

Speaker 1 Anyway, it goes on. But it's like ridiculous.
And so here we have her on the show, and then and then Clayton goes on to a rant, which is information that I had no idea.

Speaker 33 Yeah, now we need to explain to everybody that we know Clayton and Natalie personally.

Speaker 42 Natalie worked for me.

Speaker 48 Yeah. You trained her.

Speaker 139 You showed her how to do it.

Speaker 1 Some me. I gave her some.
Yeah, I was the meat. No, you trained her.

Speaker 67 No, you trained her.

Speaker 148 I dressed her and got her new hair.

Speaker 16 That was my job.

Speaker 53 And I think I did a pretty good job.

Speaker 85 Got rid of this goofy glasses, which are now back.

Speaker 57 Now they're back.

Speaker 1 She's wearing the goofy glasses again.

Speaker 139 You know, they moved to Portugal five years ago.

Speaker 1 They're back in New Jersey.

Speaker 56 They're back in New Jersey.

Speaker 20 And you should look up Morris and Vest and you'll learn more about them.

Speaker 171 Let's play the clip.

Speaker 171 And Trump seemed to have at one point thought that this was his opportunity to do so, but he's seeing that the optics aren't very good and that people, including the United States and his own party, are not, or at least supporters or voters of his party, aren't on board.

Speaker 74 Well, and you hear that. You hear the MAGA people,

Speaker 172 like, who, you know,

Speaker 172 you know the types I'm talking about who like lick, you know, lick President Trump's feet wherever he walks.

Speaker 66 It's the narco-terrorists.

Speaker 172 Like, that's what we're stopping. It's the, it's the Venezuelan child trafficking operation.

Speaker 13 At Newsflash, the United States is one of the largest purveyors of child trafficking in the world, in the world, in the world.

Speaker 2 Guatemala, why Ukraine?

Speaker 172 Ukraine is a massive child trafficking operation, yet we can pick and choose like who we defend in all of this. It's all garbage.
We all know it's about the oil.

Speaker 172 And the Chinese help, who have helped, of course, to try to actually refine some of this oil, which is not the best oil in the world when it's pulled out of the ground.

Speaker 172 It requires quite a bit of refining, and the Chinese have been able to help.

Speaker 172 So the Chinese sphere of influence in Latin America, the oil, the Chinese, the Russian sphere of influence there, this is exactly why the Trump administration seems to be moving in this direction.

Speaker 172 Sorry to just monologue there, but I just, I feel like for anyone still falling for the drug argument, they need to get their heads examined.

Speaker 40 Okay, I can tell you exactly when he became a Trump hater.

Speaker 16 I could even look up the date if you wanted.

Speaker 3 No.

Speaker 92 No. What do you mean, no?

Speaker 101 No, you don't have to look up the date.

Speaker 1 I'm taking your word for it. You have a date.

Speaker 69 When he went on Tucker Carlson's show.

Speaker 53 That's when it all started to flip.

Speaker 124 And it's not because Clayton Morris has any political scruples or he cares about America.

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 72 You think Tucker

Speaker 1 flipped him?

Speaker 55 No.

Speaker 2 What flipped him was: hey, if I do the stuff Tucker's doing, we'll be more successful.

Speaker 84 He is

Speaker 60 those two, Natalie and Clayton, prime examples of audience capture.

Speaker 56 Because I know, we know what we get when we just say, no, we don't think that this is how it works.

Speaker 95 We don't think that Israel controls America.

Speaker 2 Oh, everyone's hair is on fire.

Speaker 43 You shilb, enjoy your shekels, Kurim.

Speaker 2 Shekels.

Speaker 64 Tina said the other day, where is the Jew money? I know.

Speaker 127 It's

Speaker 39 few and far between.

Speaker 86 Those are populist audience capture people.

Speaker 43 And by the way, that's a lot of them.

Speaker 48 They think there's a movement.

Speaker 16 It's America First.

Speaker 41 You know, it's different from MAGA.

Speaker 16 And Trump is all about foreign wars.

Speaker 80 And he's the blue hat.

Speaker 60 I have friends who think this, but he's just an ob.

Speaker 46 He's just, he's just David Icke.

Speaker 56 He's just completing the great reset.

Speaker 103 Man, you guys should pay attention.

Speaker 56 Three more years of this, you're never going to see it again.

Speaker 55 Ever, ever, ever.

Speaker 118 I've said it before.

Speaker 90 Pay very close attention to what's really happening.

Speaker 45 But no, it's all about oil.

Speaker 33 No,

Speaker 16 it truly is about America first.

Speaker 64 And now, even saying that,

Speaker 46 you guys used to be in kind of in the middle.

Speaker 2 Now you're everything Trump says is that Trump is good, man.

Speaker 2 No,

Speaker 65 no. We just call what we see.

Speaker 1 I like the way you always have a puke sound at the end of these people's little diatribes.

Speaker 26 This voice you do.

Speaker 2 You always have that.

Speaker 1 That's always thrown in.

Speaker 66 It's the truth. It's how I hear it.

Speaker 2 And I'm just like, why?

Speaker 42 I mean.

Speaker 1 But here's the thing about that little diatribe he did. What's he talking about that the United States is the number one child trafficking country in the world?

Speaker 57 That may actually be true.

Speaker 39 Well, in what way?

Speaker 41 Purveyor, that more kids are trafficked to the United States than any other country.

Speaker 1 I think the way he presents it, he says it's us doing it.

Speaker 30 Yes, he didn't say it right.

Speaker 53 But I think what he means is that more children are trafficked into the United States than out of the other country.

Speaker 33 And we have a big country.

Speaker 56 I don't think China has numbers.

Speaker 73 I also, I think China has enough children of their own to do stuff with.

Speaker 107 That sounded bad.

Speaker 92 But anyway,

Speaker 66 so, but

Speaker 43 these are typical audience capture.

Speaker 20 Oh, I mean, just go back and look at him with,

Speaker 116 oh, we've got an expert marksman. He was in the military and he's going to explain the magic bullet that hit Charlie Kirk.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah, this is how it happened.

Speaker 33 No, that went by the wayside.

Speaker 57 It's all gone away.

Speaker 64 And the leader of this ring is Candace Owens.

Speaker 46 And actually, she tweeted something

Speaker 2 that I

Speaker 1 so wait. You think Candace Owens has more influence than Nick Fuentes?

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Because Nick Fuentes has got the blue hat that says America first on it.

Speaker 73 Yeah, but Candace Owens has

Speaker 10 there.

Speaker 82 I think what's happening here,

Speaker 24 let me read what she posted yesterday.

Speaker 109 Should I do the Candace voice?

Speaker 162 I received information last night that put the final pieces together for me.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 49 I got receipts.

Speaker 31 I now can say with full confidence that I believe Charlie Kirk was betrayed by the leadership of Turning Point USA and some of the very people who eulogized him on stage.

Speaker 41 Yes, I will be naming names and providing evidence for my claims.

Speaker 61 And I am making a personal plea to every well-meaning person who donated to this god-forsaken organization to request a refund.

Speaker 49 You are lied to, and leadership knew.

Speaker 26 So

Speaker 33 this was responded to by

Speaker 34 because Turning Point USA has been very quiet for months while Candio has been on this long rant.

Speaker 108 And Blake Neef, the producer of the Charlie Kirk show, responded.

Speaker 37 I can play some of that in a minute.

Speaker 34 But at the end of

Speaker 128 his long response at the top of yesterday's show,

Speaker 142 he said, we're going to do a live stream.

Speaker 95 And

Speaker 96 it's set.

Speaker 73 He actually posted this on X.

Speaker 69 The live stream we announced on the show Wednesday has been set 4 p.m.

Speaker 41 Eastern, 2 p.m.

Speaker 57 local time, because it's Phoenix.

Speaker 73 Monday, December 15th, a collection of Charlie's friends will respond to statements made by At Real Candace O to set the record straight once and for all prior to the opening of America Fest.

Speaker 41 We'll be streaming live from Charlie's Phoenix studio.

Speaker 87 Our offer from yesterday holds if Candace wishes to join us in person in Phoenix, she is welcome to do so.

Speaker 56 She can let us know by the end of the day.

Speaker 161 And then Candace replies to this. This is all playing out on X.

Speaker 118 This is fabulous.

Speaker 47 Kind of weird how you didn't email or call me to ask about times or availability and chose to instead tweet this confirmation out at midnight.

Speaker 22 Why am I learning about this on X?

Speaker 177 December 15th does it not work in person.

Speaker 59 And 2 p.m.

Speaker 19 is also literal time.

Speaker 22 I do my podcast live every day, which you knew.

Speaker 41 But we will happily cancel the daily podcast and we'll join you guys virtually instead of the live stream on the 15th if that works on your end.

Speaker 19 So

Speaker 58 I have to say

Speaker 61 that it's what she, of all the things she's claimed, and I'd love to play a little bit of that,

Speaker 40 the producer guy's claims because it's pretty funny.

Speaker 73 Of all this things she's claimed, it is very possible that in an organization like Turning Point USA, forget the $100 million a year, the political power of that organization is worth maybe billions or hundreds of billions.

Speaker 73 Very, at the time, at the time of electing President Trump,

Speaker 34 what Turning Point USA did, and they really turned out,

Speaker 66 I think, a lot of

Speaker 175 late teens, early 20s voters.

Speaker 56 I think there was, that did make a difference.

Speaker 38 But in general, just the clout of Turning Point USA, I can completely see one individual or more people within the organization going, hey man,

Speaker 56 Charlie's screwing things up because you can't go against Israel with an election, with a campaign apparatus.

Speaker 34 That's not going to work.

Speaker 33 I can see that happening.

Speaker 43 I can see people who

Speaker 62 saw all this political clout, this power.

Speaker 34 There's all kinds of people people that were hanging around the organization.

Speaker 16 I'm going to say that's the most reasonable thing

Speaker 56 that she said in a long time.

Speaker 36 Of course, it could also just be that she is doing this with an already destabilized turning point USA to kill it.

Speaker 31 You know, this, this, she could be an op for someone who is against Trump.

Speaker 73 I mean, she certainly seems against Trump.

Speaker 33 So anything is possible, but that's finally something she said there that made sense.

Speaker 116 I'll just let this run until we're tired of it.

Speaker 56 This guy runs down all of the nutty things Candio has said in the past few months.

Speaker 141 And I've heard, I think, every single one of them.

Speaker 56 So he's not exaggerating.

Speaker 173 We wanted to use this segment at the top of this hour to say something important, something very important. For the past two and a half months, there is a topic that has flooded our freedom inbox.

Speaker 173 It has been non-stop on social media, but which we have almost totally avoided on this show.

Speaker 2 You probably already know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 44 Wait, wait, wait, wait, who is this?

Speaker 115 This is the producer of the Charlie Kirk show, because the show continues.

Speaker 30 They just have guest eggs come in.

Speaker 2 Yeah, okay.

Speaker 173 How ubiquitous it has been.

Speaker 173 Ever since Charlie's murder, Candace Owens has leveled a flood of allegations against people at Turning Point USA. people at Turning Point Action, and people who work for this show.

Speaker 173 She's made them against some of Charlie's closest friends and against some of his most dedicated employees.

Speaker 173 She has suggested that Michael McCoy, Charlie's chief of staff, knew Charlie would be murdered, was happy that he died, and stayed silent because he was told he would be the next Charlie.

Speaker 173 She has suggested Michael is not his real name. It is.
I have seen his birth certificate myself.

Speaker 173 She has called it suspicious that Mikey's wife, who works at Turning Point, helped plan the campus tour event where Charlie was murdered, which she didn't, by the way.

Speaker 173 She doesn't work on campus events. Candace has suggested the Utah Valley University event was unusual and its details suggested a quote inside job.

Speaker 173 She has claimed that foreign aircraft have followed Erica Kirk around the country and that Turning Point has lied about this happening.

Speaker 173 She has accused us of lying about Charlie wanting Erica to take over for him if he died.

Speaker 173 She has suggested Charlie's security team intentionally denied him first aid after the shooting to ensure that he died.

Speaker 173 She has raised suspicions about the head of our technical team because he took an SD card out of a camera.

Speaker 173 She has spread absurd claims that Tyler Boyer, who we just had on the show, sexually abuses male interns.

Speaker 173 She has suggested that TPUSA faith-affiliated pastors, like theologian Frank Turek, who we'll have on in a moment, and Pastor Rob McCoy, are part of a military, quote, infiltration of turning point, either because they are veterans or because they have family members who are.

Speaker 173 Even if not everyone has been named specifically, though, Candace has effectively tarred everyone here with complicity in Charlie's death by repeatedly saying all right.

Speaker 56 So he goes on for seven minutes.

Speaker 37 I'll put it in the show notes.

Speaker 18 So she

Speaker 33 goes on to say, it's entertaining. Oh, it's very entertaining, but we have to remember one thing.

Speaker 2 Her husband,

Speaker 2 what would you say he is?

Speaker 1 Oh, I forgot. He's a white guy who's

Speaker 1 he's a, a he's part of

Speaker 1 your favorite group,

Speaker 1 the Nexus from

Speaker 1 the UK, he's a lord or something like that.

Speaker 66 His dad is a lord.

Speaker 1 His dad's a lord.

Speaker 116 And when you saw Candace's husband, the first thing you said was, he's gay.

Speaker 66 That's the first thing you said.

Speaker 2 Then that guy is not gay.

Speaker 1 Are you accusing me of saying that the first thing I said when as soon as I saw that guy, I said, that guy's gay?

Speaker 141 Yes. I'm not accusing you.

Speaker 1 You're accusing me.

Speaker 42 It happened on this show.

Speaker 157 But, you know, British guy and and

Speaker 31 and he's involved in banking with the dutch banks he has you know he had this there's so much

Speaker 1 british stuff going on here yeah he's he's british that does that does not well but from a lordship you know from peerage yeah peerage british he's he's been part of the system yes so this guy the royal system that's all over the world even though you like to isolate it yeah you want to hear more of this guy's accusation?

Speaker 1 Oh, kephum, but just a little bit more.

Speaker 173 He was quote betrayed by quote everyone.

Speaker 173 She has said Charlie's murder, quote, had to be approved by Charlie's friends, and then suggested those friends might have her murdered too, for quote, knowing the truth.

Speaker 173 She's made claims of financial impropriety and fraud at turning point, adding up into the millions of dollars, which again is not true.

Speaker 173 Charlie made sure the organization was audited by a third party every year. He personally reviewed and he signed off on every expense report.
And

Speaker 33 it goes on, but remember, she said Israel had killed him, and you know, and she's still on the hit list from the Macron's.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, she's on the hit list. Yeah, I mean, because Macron and I forget who is ganged up, they're gonna

Speaker 57 kill her, they're gonna kill her, they're gonna kill her.

Speaker 66 So,

Speaker 64 you know,

Speaker 182 like some again,

Speaker 138 I think turning point is done.

Speaker 33 I mean,

Speaker 56 whether they realize it or not, but Charlie Kirk was turning point USA.

Speaker 40 No Charlie Kirk.

Speaker 1 No, he's a charismatic leader.

Speaker 1 This is not a slouch. No.
This is a high-order charismatic leader that was running the thing and keeping it together just because of his info. You know, this is aura to do it.

Speaker 1 He could manage to do it. This is like one of those guys, like Elon Musk is a little bit like this.

Speaker 1 And he gets people to do stuff. And okay, I'd rather work for him than anything else.
And once he's gone, which is the idea, it's called taking out the head of the snake.

Speaker 1 It's over. And yeah, it could linger.
It could become something else, but it's not going to be

Speaker 1 where it was headed. No.

Speaker 128 So whatever's going on,

Speaker 141 if somehow it turns out, I mean, she could be right.

Speaker 11 She could be right.

Speaker 138 She says she's got names, she's got evidence, she's got proof.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 I mean, I've been waiting.

Speaker 58 She's got receipts. I mean, I was.

Speaker 1 Where's this receipt?

Speaker 153 Where did that crop up, by the way?

Speaker 1 Everybody, I've got receipts.

Speaker 1 For your taxes?

Speaker 39 What do you mean you get a receipt?

Speaker 69 That's been going on for a while.

Speaker 16 But she kind of revived it.

Speaker 30 I've got the receipts.

Speaker 25 Yeah, that's been a thing for a while.

Speaker 91 You know, people say that, no agenda show, current Devorah.

Speaker 30 They got the receipts, which I think think means clips.

Speaker 69 I'm not sure.

Speaker 1 Clips. We got plenty of clips.

Speaker 16 We got clips, man.

Speaker 41 We got clips.

Speaker 48 But it's, it's, I do not deem it impossible.

Speaker 41 Although, how she got from Egyptian Air Force dropping off a hitman to

Speaker 56 Turning Point USA being responsible,

Speaker 56 that makes no sense.

Speaker 31 But sometimes you got to.

Speaker 1 She takes a shotgun approach or scatter gun, we could call it. Yeah.

Speaker 73 Well, she has the CIA, the Candace Intelligence Agency.

Speaker 31 It's her version of Boots on the Ground.

Speaker 16 Except I think hers are nut jobs.

Speaker 46 You know, like, oh, look what I found.

Speaker 75 Oh, yeah, this is good.

Speaker 45 Where we have people, hey, I did a documentary.

Speaker 1 We have nut jobs too, but we just don't read their stuff.

Speaker 31 No, we read the good ones. We got lots of good ones.

Speaker 1 Well, when the nut jobs are funny, yeah.

Speaker 90 Well, obviously.

Speaker 85 But it's very possible that.

Speaker 40 that there was a coup from inside Turning Point USA.

Speaker 111 Now, it doesn't explain a lot of things.

Speaker 82 And of course, ever since COVID, why would we trust our government?

Speaker 185 Nobody trusts the government.

Speaker 176 In any country, anyone who's smart, it's like, no, you lied.

Speaker 111 We don't trust you anymore.

Speaker 21 But people will say, there's been no autopsy.

Speaker 20 All of this comes out in court.

Speaker 73 You don't release this kind of, it's called

Speaker 69 witness tampering, even I think at some point.

Speaker 139 It pollutes

Speaker 141 the public if you put information out before the trial the jury pool yeah

Speaker 67 and so that's why it it will all come out and there is an autopsy report and it you know how come we don't know where he was buried

Speaker 29 and i was like uh

Speaker 12 it's almost like mangione we're just now just now how long ago was the mangioni thing

Speaker 76 a year ago a year ago just now it's coming to trial and things are coming out i have a 30-second update just as an inter mezzo well the man charged with murdering United Healthcare CEO on the streets of Manhattan was back in a New York City courtroom today for a second day.

Speaker 76 27-year-old Luigi Mangioni is charged with killing Brian Thompson last December. The former Penn Grads lawyers are trying to get evidence against him thrown out.

Speaker 76 That includes items found in Mangioni's backpack when he was arrested at a McDonald's in Altoona, Pennsylvania. They also want the 911 call that led to his capture tossed.

Speaker 76 Mangione has pleaded not guilty.

Speaker 92 Not guilty, plea.

Speaker 84 That is interesting.

Speaker 79 I didn't do it.

Speaker 89 Not guilty.

Speaker 42 And then that just,

Speaker 37 I look at my timeline and my notifications on X.

Speaker 20 I see, like, something really nice happened and was kind of a local story to Austin at least.

Speaker 67 Something really nice happened.

Speaker 45 And then I'll tell you what people had to say about it.

Speaker 76 The couple that founded Dell Technologies, Michael and Susan Dell, have announced a $6 billion donation toward new investment accounts for children proposed by the Trump administration.

Speaker 76 The Invest America accounts will launch next year. The Treasury Department says it'll put $1,000 in the accounts of at least 25 million children.

Speaker 76 The money donated by the Dells will be for kids 10 years and younger. They'll be eligible to receive $250 each.
The Dells say they're investing in children because they are our future.

Speaker 177 So it's a total of $6.5 billion.

Speaker 36 And it's kind of a cool idea, these America investment accounts, which, you know, I think the president calls them Trump accounts, but it's really called

Speaker 16 Invest in America accounts.

Speaker 177 So the Dells, they say, you know, we're going to put in $250 per child, 10 years younger, 25 million children.

Speaker 40 It'll cost us $6.5 billion minimum, they said, at least.

Speaker 102 And they said, hey, rich people, you should do the same.

Speaker 55 And all anybody could talk about is Dell's wife.

Speaker 43 That's got to be a dude.

Speaker 2 That's a dude.

Speaker 109 That's a dude.

Speaker 50 What's up with that?

Speaker 21 What's up with her eyes?

Speaker 109 It's like,

Speaker 141 that to me is astounding.

Speaker 63 No one talks about the money.

Speaker 139 It's just she looks like a dude.

Speaker 157 Have you ever met Michael Dell's wife, Susan?

Speaker 1 No, I never have.

Speaker 1 And I know Michael, but I never met his wife. But she, if you look at her pictures, she had, she had an eye.

Speaker 1 Here's what happened.

Speaker 2 Eye operation.

Speaker 1 She had an eye job. Yeah.
And

Speaker 1 I don't know if she used a Texas person or who it was.

Speaker 2 Cattle rancher.

Speaker 101 A cattle rancher.

Speaker 1 But if you look at older pictures of her, when she was a brunette, especially, she was skinny, she's thin, and her eyes are kind of closed. They were kind of like, they were not a

Speaker 99 bug-eyed look.

Speaker 1 She had normal-looking eyes of a kind of, you know, they were normal looking. If you looked at her, you said, that's normal looking.

Speaker 1 It's not, she didn't have the big, beautiful eyes or that sort of thing. And I guess she wanted the big, beautiful eyes.
And so somebody did an operation on her and they bugged her eyes out.

Speaker 1 She looks like a freak.

Speaker 1 I feel bad about it.

Speaker 21 I know, me too.

Speaker 46 It's obvious what happened there.

Speaker 65 But, you know, the world we live in today is just, oh, man,

Speaker 2 what is that?

Speaker 1 Yeah, people should recognize what it is and what happened.

Speaker 1 It's like the same, the people that have that bucal fat removed. You know, you see that, and it's like, oh my God, why did you do that to yourself?

Speaker 1 Because some doctor convinced them that it was a good idea because it makes your face look a little more gaunt, less round, which it does. But it also makes you look

Speaker 54 like a ghoul

Speaker 1 if you're thin at all.

Speaker 53 She should have come by the Curry Dvorak Consulting Group.

Speaker 67 We could have given her some of that.

Speaker 31 I can just hear the surgeon saying,

Speaker 64 Within 10 days, you'll be restaurant ready.

Speaker 34 It's going to be great.

Speaker 2 Don't worry.

Speaker 67 Some bruising. You'll You'll be fine.

Speaker 74 Those guys lie.

Speaker 80 Some bruising. You'll be fine.

Speaker 1 My bug-eyed and looks like a freak.

Speaker 1 This is the shame.

Speaker 119 I just love that you'll be restaurant ready.

Speaker 102 Yeah.

Speaker 34 Candlelight, maybe.

Speaker 2 Anyway.

Speaker 48 So the president had his four-hour board meeting, which is another thing that, you know, you get one snippet on the news.

Speaker 31 It's really interesting to watch that.

Speaker 33 And a couple of things that I wanted to highlight.

Speaker 60 The first was the Labor Secretary, who is doing exactly what you and I said should be happening in America.

Speaker 150 So the Labor Department has wasted no time in putting that into action with our Make America Skilled Again, either grant dollars, but the intentionality of the apprenticeship program, one million active apprentices across this country.

Speaker 150 We have done over 250,000 new apprentices so far in the first year and registered over 2,000 new apprenticeship programs.

Speaker 150 Why do we need the apprenticeship programs with the men and women in the trades? Because of the leadership of onshoring and reshoring, and have a lot of these companies reinvest in America.

Speaker 150 We have to build this country. We cannot do that without the tradesmen and women and the craftsmen of this country.
And I think that Howard and I, we talked about that from the beginning.

Speaker 150 And we're going to have to lean in on that because we need the labor force 700,000 new skilled jobs with electricians, construction workers, machinists, and so forth.

Speaker 79 Attention, Gen Zers, who listen to this show. There's a future.

Speaker 59 700,000 electricians, machinists, welders.

Speaker 142 Those aren't going to be good-paying union jobs.

Speaker 34 They're going to be money in the bank

Speaker 16 because all of this manufacturing is coming back.

Speaker 2 No one seems to care, strangely.

Speaker 2 I'm blown away by it.

Speaker 72 I'm like, we've always said, what happened to apprenticeships?

Speaker 41 These are paid apprenticeships, too.

Speaker 157 You get paid to learn, and you can go on and do $150,000, $200,000 a year.

Speaker 31 This is amazing.

Speaker 178 By the way, I got a note from Nolan about another thing Gen Zers can't do.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. We should be on the list.

Speaker 75 Okay.

Speaker 16 He says, I thought this was relevant to reading clock and floor to ounces.

Speaker 102 Two co-workers recently stopped me in the hallway to ask me how to strike matches.

Speaker 16 Every time we try to light them, they break, they said.

Speaker 139 I showed them the proper technique, then stole their matches.

Speaker 58 So isn't that interesting?

Speaker 31 Don't know how to strike a match.

Speaker 162 I can see that.

Speaker 162 Huh.

Speaker 1 Well, there's no such thing as a matchbook anymore.

Speaker 1 So you have to buy those big stick matches

Speaker 39 in a box.

Speaker 15 I think matchbooks are still a thing.

Speaker 1 I haven't seen a matchbook for five, ten years.

Speaker 16 Well, you don't get out much. I mean, do you have a bunch of matches?

Speaker 1 I get out enough to find a matchbook. I've not seen a matchbook for five or ten years.

Speaker 72 When's the last time you've seen the cigarette?

Speaker 1 They don't even sell those as much.

Speaker 124 But if you buy cigarettes, they still give you a matchbook.

Speaker 1 Well, I don't buy cigarettes. Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 26 There you go.

Speaker 2 There you go.

Speaker 2 But then the bombshell, bombshell, bombshell.

Speaker 57 Wait, do you have a bombshell?

Speaker 36 Where's the bombshell?

Speaker 2 I don't have my bombshell.

Speaker 148 The bombshell was the snap benefits.

Speaker 40 Holy moly, remember how we were surprised about how much, was it $80 billion?

Speaker 1 Was it a ridiculous high number?

Speaker 18 $80 billion.

Speaker 119 Well, guess what?

Speaker 188 We have so much great things to talk about at USDA, but the third thing which became very much a part of the national conversation during the Democrat shutdown was SNAP reform, food stamp reform.

Speaker 188 When all of America saw what so many of us know and have been working on, but when you have so much rampant fraud in a program program that 42 million Americans participate in, now a big, good piece of news that I hope is written about since you became president, about 800,000 of those 42 million have moved off of food stamps, which is hopefully the plan with better jobs, higher wages, etc.

Speaker 188 But still, when we found 186,000 dead people or dead people's social security numbers being used, 500,000 people receiving benefits more than twice.

Speaker 188 We had a couple of people receiving benefits in six states.

Speaker 188 In February of this year, we asked for all the states for the first time to turn over their data to the federal government to let the USDA partner with them to root out this fraud to make sure that those who really need food stamps are getting them, but also to ensure that the American taxpayer is protected.

Speaker 188 21 states said yes, not surprisingly, 29 states said yes, not surprisingly, the red states, and that's where all of that data, that fraud, comes from.

Speaker 188 But 21 states, including California, New York, and Minnesota, the blue states, continue to say no.

Speaker 188 So, as of next week, we have begun and will begin to stop moving federal funds into those states until they comply.

Speaker 188 And they tell us and allow us to partner with them to root out this fraud and to protect the American taxpayer.

Speaker 188 As Joe Biden was working to buy an election a year ago, he increased food stamp program funding by 40 percent. So, now as we continue to roll that back,

Speaker 64 isn't that interesting?

Speaker 1 Unbelievable.

Speaker 31 40% increase, and the blue states don't want to give their data.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 1 No, that's typical.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 116 I didn't see that report on the news for some reason.

Speaker 1 I wonder why.

Speaker 33 I didn't see it anywhere on the news.

Speaker 57 I'm not sure what happened.

Speaker 1 They must have overlooked it in the editorial meeting when they decided to omit stories on purpose because it reflects poorly on the Democrats, and they they might not do as well as they could do in the midterms and the news media is in on it.

Speaker 107 Nah, get out of town.

Speaker 24 Nah, that's not possible.

Speaker 2 That can't be.

Speaker 153 So

Speaker 1 I have some clips. I have immigration crackdown clips.

Speaker 1 I have Colonel McGregor.

Speaker 2 McGregor. Oh, I want to hear him.

Speaker 1 And the analysis of Ukraine. Well, if you're going to bring the McGregor clips in, that's when we get to play.mp3.mp3.

Speaker 61 Do we play that first?

Speaker 1 No, no, no.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 1 This is an analysis. And McGregor goes on this show called the Something Something.

Speaker 1 Some vet guys

Speaker 1 does a thing called the Something Something Deep Dive. And McGregor's on the show.
This show is on YouTube. It has all of 30K listeners.

Speaker 1 And of course, McGregor won't do an interview with us, with a million listeners.

Speaker 26 No, not with you.

Speaker 16 Not with you.

Speaker 1 Well, whatever. He didn't like your interview.

Speaker 39 I find it

Speaker 1 incredibly offensive that he's a stick in the mud, but he still has good stuff to a point. He does not recognize

Speaker 1 the salesmanship of Donald Trump. His analysis is good, though, and

Speaker 1 he brings in a perspective that is enjoyable to listen to because it is a little ⁇ it comes in from a different angle. And this is McGregor's analysis of the war.

Speaker 1 What do you make of that charge that Europe and Ukraine are trying to sabotage Trump's 28-point peace plan to put poison pills in that they know Russia won't accept?

Speaker 7 Well, the peace plan is no peace plan. It's got lots of poison pills in it anyway, so I think that's dead on arrival.
Let's understand what Kushner and Witkoff are about.

Speaker 7 They're trying to salvage something for President Trump. President Trump wants to be able to declare a victory for President Trump.
This has nothing to do with Ukraine as far as he's concerned.

Speaker 7 He could care less. He's already abdicated his responsibility for leadership in Europe and NATO.

Speaker 7 So apparently he doesn't have the authority that he needs from his backers in New York City and the city of London to move forward to really do anything. So what is he doing?

Speaker 7 He sent Kushner and Witkoff to go over there and say, look, Mr.

Speaker 7 Putin, we don't really disagree with you. What we really want is some sort of

Speaker 7 bone that you can throw Trump so that Trump can come out publicly and say, look, I've done everything I can.

Speaker 7 And this is the road to peace. And I've negotiated this with President Putin.
He's on board. Now it's up to everybody else.

Speaker 7 And as he said a few days ago, if they're not going to accept this, then as far as he's concerned, Ukraine can fight out its little heart. You know, this is nonsense.
None of this is substantive.

Speaker 7 The Russians have laid out routinely the minimal conditions for the acceptance of any peace agreement. They have never changed.
So what do Witkoff and Kushner think they're going to get?

Speaker 7 In other words, the baby is ugly. The baby's not going to become beautiful.
It's ugly. It's in the cradle.
Some would like to strangle it. Trump wants to rescue it, but it's not going to happen.

Speaker 7 So it does it make any difference what Kushner and Witkoff do?

Speaker 18 Nah.

Speaker 16 Okay,

Speaker 16 I have some clips that can paré that, but we'll listen to your circuit.

Speaker 1 Let's play part two of this.

Speaker 7 And believe me, I'm sure that President Putin and his inner circle understand this. And if they can throw a bone to Donald Trump, give him something that he can point to that says, I created this.

Speaker 7 I'm the heroic figure that brought peace, tranquility, and good fortune to Ukraine, they'll do it because they want this damn thing over as well.

Speaker 7 Not because they're losing, not because they can't win. That's all nonsense.
Now, let's move to the European slide. MATS is on very thin ice.
Look at events in Berlin.

Speaker 7 Look at the people in the streets. Look at the strength that the people on the right, the nationalist right in Germany, are achieving.
They're not a bunch of crazies.

Speaker 7 They're not Nazis or any of this other crap that the globalists

Speaker 2 promote.

Speaker 7 They're simply German nationalists who said, enough's enough. And look at their platform.
And what's in their platform? Their platform says, we want a restoration of good relations with Russia.

Speaker 7 We want to go back to doing business with the Russians. The majority of Germans will support that.
They know that. Metz knows it.

Speaker 7 This is the final hour for Metz, for Macron, for Starmer, and the others. They have to come up with something that keeps the war going.

Speaker 7 If they can't, and God forbid, peace should arrive on the battlefield because Zelensky suddenly leaves the country or he and his friends are accidentally blown up.

Speaker 2 Who knows?

Speaker 7 Whatever happens, that's the end of them. They lose everything, whatever little bit of credibility they may still have.

Speaker 7 And Macron and Matz are always, they're all hovering down there around 30% approval ratings. Starmer is probably lower.

Speaker 13 It's over for them.

Speaker 33 Well, I'm in agreement there.

Speaker 48 Certainly on the Zelensky mic get blown up bit.

Speaker 40 Unfortunate drone incident.

Speaker 1 Something going to happen.

Speaker 2 Oh,

Speaker 64 his brain left.

Speaker 31 His brain left the building.

Speaker 60 The guy's an actor.

Speaker 58 He's a dancer.

Speaker 1 A dancer, yeah.

Speaker 2 He's a tiny dancer.

Speaker 44 It's true.

Speaker 21 He's a tiny dancer.

Speaker 1 He's a tiny dancer. This brings us to he,

Speaker 1 to make his point, this goes on. I have two more clips, but to make his point, he brings in your buddy, Ruta.

Speaker 2 Yep.

Speaker 1 And to prove the point, he says, he says Ruta's a, see, this is where he starts missing the point. He doesn't see Ruta as a sales guy.
Yeah. Doesn't understand Trump as a sales guy.

Speaker 1 He doesn't get sales. He's a military guy.

Speaker 64 Oh, man. This is so good.

Speaker 1 And so because he doesn't get sales, so he plays Ruta. So they play a clip of Ruta, and the clip they play is this one,

Speaker 1 which was from two days ago. This is the MP3, MP3 clip, but this is Mark Ruta with his latest appeal.

Speaker 120 As we work for peace, we cannot lose sight of Russia's increasingly brutal attacks against Ukraine.

Speaker 120 Russia is systematically targeting civilian infrastructure, depriving Ukrainians of heat and light at the start of winter.

Speaker 120 Russia is not alone in this war as China continues to be its decisive enabler. And the Iran and North Korea also provide support.

Speaker 120 Since the earliest days of Russia's full-scale invasion, the Allies have shown unwavering commitment to Ukraine.

Speaker 120 In recent months, European and Canadian allies have provided billions of dollars of essential U.S. equipment to Ukraine through Pearl.

Speaker 120 This support is an part of our ongoing efforts to ensure Ukraine has what it needs to defend today and deter future aggression.

Speaker 45 So, what you called.mp3.mp3,

Speaker 17 I have that exact clip in my list as Rutte's new sales pitch.

Speaker 157 And before we get back to McGregor, I have 40 seconds because a lot went on in Europe.

Speaker 83 This is how, before he even got to that pitch, this was the wind-up before the press.

Speaker 190 What's important is that the weapon flow and all the other supports keep on flowing, including

Speaker 190 the Danish Lithuanian initiative of investing in the defence industrial base in Ukraine, including the Czech ammunition initiative, including all the bilateral support going into Ukraine.

Speaker 190 I commend what the Irish have announced yesterday, so I think this is all important. Of course, Ireland not a NATO, but still

Speaker 190 supporting Ukraine.

Speaker 190 Of course, the way to fund it is a debate. And I'm not going into that because this is really up to the EU.

Speaker 190 And I know the European Union is working hard at solving that issue.

Speaker 109 Thank you so much.

Speaker 14 You're welcome. We'll meet again

Speaker 2 after all the meetings.

Speaker 15 Thanks. Thanks.

Speaker 19 Okay. Bye-bye.

Speaker 123 Thanks.

Speaker 175 And I'll get to the money bit after your McGregor stuff.

Speaker 118 So, yeah, oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, there's one little clip.

Speaker 1 I got two clips left, but there's a short clip here, which was to me, oh, okay, because I've been bitching and moaning and groaning about this one little and I never thought about this.

Speaker 1 And this is the clip three. This is the aha clip.
And I just want to play this as a side, kind of an aside, and then I'll reference back to my earlier complaints.

Speaker 7 The Russians have been very precise in their application of military power from the beginning of this operation. And I say that because it's very difficult.

Speaker 7 We talk all the time about precision strike and minimizing collateral damage. You're always going to have collateral damage, no matter how precise you are.

Speaker 7 But the Russians have actually done an exceptionally good job of minimizing civilian losses.

Speaker 1 I've always said they did a 10-hour drone and missile strike, 10 hours, and they killed two.

Speaker 32 Yeah.

Speaker 1 This is what he's talking about. I didn't realize that this is what the Russians are.
They're not trying to kill people at all. They're blowing up

Speaker 1 substations and infrastructure and where the bomb-making facilities. Who knows what? So they are bombing for 10 hours and they're killing very few people.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And that's because I kept because the way the news presented is a Russian did this and they killed a baby. And, you know, it was the whole thing.

Speaker 1 But wait a minute, they bombed for 10 hours and they killed a baby? That's it? Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, that's the reason.

Speaker 1 So I think McGregor hit something there that made it worth my while. Now, here's the last part, which you'll appreciate.

Speaker 7 But what I want to stop and get people to think about is who in the hell is Ruta?

Speaker 28 Where does he come from?

Speaker 7 I don't wish to be too delicate in this sense.

Speaker 17 Hold on.

Speaker 82 Let me just set it up.

Speaker 56 He was in human resources with the rest of the ladies.

Speaker 1 No, he doesn't get that

Speaker 1 granular. It's more generalized.

Speaker 38 Okay.

Speaker 7 But he's from the Netherlands.

Speaker 7 How many people live in the Netherlands?

Speaker 57 17%.

Speaker 7 Well, if I were running the show, I would say, how many forces can the Dutch put into the field?

Speaker 2 10.

Speaker 7 How many forces can the Norwegians put in the field?

Speaker 163 11.

Speaker 7 Remember Stoltenberg from Norway making all these utterly ridiculous and stupid remarks, 90% of which were lies. The same thing with Ruth.

Speaker 7 You know, anybody who is a real leader in the West would turn to these people and say, shut up and sit down.

Speaker 7 We, the United States, Washington, have no interest whatsoever in continuing this destructive and pointless war with Russia. So we're not interested in what you have to say any longer.

Speaker 7 You know, the Germans understood this for years. The Russians have always understood it.

Speaker 13 At some point, you need to say, put up or shut up.

Speaker 7 During World War II, when we had 63 divisions in France, the British, including the Canadians, had 19.

Speaker 7 And the thing that no one on the Soviet side could never understand was why Eisenhower paid any attention whatsoever to what Montgomery and Churchill had to say.

Speaker 7 They had no skin in the game compared with us. 63 divisions versus 19.

Speaker 7 well you have a similar situation today in europe what is your military power how many forces have you got the answer to those things is not much if anything worthy of attention so someone needs to tell these people shut up sit down here's the answer that is what president trump should do uh no he does he really doesn't understand the game at all no he misses the he doesn't understand sales because Because here is Rutte, being that he's got the brown shoes on, he's good to go.

Speaker 2 Well, I do not,

Speaker 190 no, I don't think that plan B we have to think about because the US is very consistent in support for Ukraine.

Speaker 118 So, but he's taught.

Speaker 119 So, the question was: what if America pulls out?

Speaker 57 He says, No, no, no, this is not gonna happen.

Speaker 13 Like, all NATO allies are very consistent.

Speaker 190 Um, of course, what the U.S.

Speaker 163 told us is we want to supply Ukraine with the necessary weapons, both lethal and non-lethal.

Speaker 157 Yes, we want to supply with with weapons.

Speaker 46 This is a sales gig.

Speaker 76 But we expect Europeans and Canadians to step up when it comes to paying for it.

Speaker 28 And that's just this whole program.

Speaker 28 Where's your money?

Speaker 91 Where is the money?

Speaker 157 We're not giving you credit.

Speaker 59 You must show us the money.

Speaker 190 The US is delivering the necessary weapons, including the air defense systems, the FAC3 missiles,

Speaker 190 for the Patriot systems, but also for the other air defense systems

Speaker 190 and all the other stuff and all the military gear you need to stay as soon as possible in the fight paid for by European and Canadian allies.

Speaker 190 That is the big program it started in July, and at the moment, already 4 billion, and I think by the end of the year, 5 billion of that supply will have been delivered to Ukraine. Critical material.

Speaker 190 But I have no reason to think that we have to prepare for those eventualities.

Speaker 77 No, just pay up with the money.

Speaker 60 So the money is what's on the table.

Speaker 17 And Queen Ursula came out yesterday and she laid, and it's interesting because I didn't realize this.

Speaker 141 I didn't clip it because it was so long and boring.

Speaker 15 But she said, have tabled two things.

Speaker 140 Now, in America, if you say we've tabled that,

Speaker 16 it means we're not going to consider it.

Speaker 143 Am I right?

Speaker 86 You've muted yourself, which is illegal in 29 states.

Speaker 1 Unmute. You know, it's when I open something and I...
It's hard to explain how that happens. No, it means you put it aside.

Speaker 22 Yeah, but in Europe, it means...

Speaker 1 But it doesn't mean you're not going to address it someday.

Speaker 189 No, but in Europe, when you say we've tabled two proposals, that means we have two proposals on the table.

Speaker 91 What? Yeah, I know.

Speaker 2 I was confused. I was really confused.

Speaker 1 Well, here's. We learned something today.

Speaker 96 Here is the

Speaker 61 France 24 overview clip.

Speaker 192 This high-rise in Brussels is at the center of an argument over how the EU could help fund Ukraine's war efforts.

Speaker 192 It's the headquarters of Euroclear, a Belgian financial institution which holds the vast majority of frozen Russian assets in the EU to the tune of about 185 billion Euros.

Speaker 192 The EU has proposed using a huge chunk of that money, or about ninety billion euros, to help Kyiv in its fight against Russia over the next two years.

Speaker 193 And since pressure is the only language the Kremlin responds to, we can also dial it up.

Speaker 193 We have to increase the costs of war for Putin's aggression, and today's proposal gives us the means to do this.

Speaker 192 The money would come to Kyiv in the form of so-called reparations loans.

Speaker 192 In theory, the money would be repaid on the condition that Russia pays reparations to Ukraine for the destruction it caused during the war.

Speaker 192 The plan also rests on the assumption that Russia's assets would remain frozen for the foreseeable future. Moscow has called the plan illegal.

Speaker 192 And if Russia decides to sue Euroclear, Belgium says it alone would suffer all the legal and financial risks.

Speaker 7 It is not acceptable to use the money and leave us alone facing the risks.

Speaker 67 We have repeatedly said that we consider the option of the repairations loan the worst of whole, as it is risky.

Speaker 123 The worst of whole.

Speaker 57 It has never been done before. Nope.

Speaker 192 Ukraine's budget and military needs through 2027 total an estimated 130 billion euros.

Speaker 192 And with the Trump administration having stalled financial support for Kyiv, Europe is under growing pressure to fill the gap.

Speaker 115 Okay, so this is kind of what McGregor was talking about because

Speaker 86 they need money to fund this thing, to keep this war going.

Speaker 35 They can't really print money in Europe.

Speaker 91 They don't have a...

Speaker 16 a world reserve currency.

Speaker 36 So, you know, printing up a couple hundred billion euros is going to weaken the Euro.

Speaker 73 And

Speaker 34 it's a non-starter.

Speaker 111 So there's only two ways they can do it.

Speaker 17 And Ursula laid this all out.

Speaker 86 One is you can raise the money in the capital market.

Speaker 175 So borrow, which would, I mean, that also could weaken the whole EU, the Euro and everything, you know,

Speaker 86 create some kind of bond.

Speaker 180 Or you steal the Russian money.

Speaker 194 And here's Ursula explaining the math because she's taken it to a level, well, you know what?

Speaker 60 We're not going to steal the money from Euro clear.

Speaker 85 You You've got to listen carefully to what she says.

Speaker 34 We're only going to take $90 billion to start with.

Speaker 37 And here's how the math works out.

Speaker 193 That was a very clear tasking by the European Council.

Speaker 193 You remember it started with me writing a letter to the European Council, the three different options that were in the options paper, a debate we had last time, and the very clear tasking to come early enough before the December European Council with the legal text.

Speaker 193 That's what we're doing here today.

Speaker 193 And now to the figures. If you take all CSDs and commercial banks, the immobilized Russian assets, overall it's two hundred ten billion.

Speaker 193 Now, what did we do? We looked at the needs for Ukraine in the years twenty six and twenty seven

Speaker 193 as calculated by the IMF.

Speaker 193 And this is one hundred thirty seven billion euros. And we've said we cover two-thirds.
And this is how we come to the 90 billion euros, two-thirds of these needs for the next two years.

Speaker 86 So that's a lot of nice accounting.

Speaker 28 But really, what she's saying is there are CSDs, so there's secured deposits of Russian money in different banks.

Speaker 72 So she's saying, well, you know, we won't go to Euro clear.

Speaker 53 We'll steal the money from all the other places where the assets have been frozen.

Speaker 86 And I found

Speaker 86 an analyst on CNBC.

Speaker 53 I'd never seen her before.

Speaker 111 She is kind of an Eastern European, maybe Russian accent, but she did a pretty good job of analyzing what is really happening here.

Speaker 146 For a start, the frozen assets is way bigger than 90 billion.

Speaker 16 That's not her, obviously.

Speaker 2 I can explain the figure in a moment. Okay, explain the figure.

Speaker 151 So it's 90 billion for a period of two years.

Speaker 151 So there's more, you're right. We're talking about almost 300 billion that are indeed frozen at the moment.

Speaker 151 But what what the European Commission is saying is that we are going to use for the time being only 90 billion for the next two years to support Ukraine.

Speaker 151 That doesn't cover all the financing needs, but it's just what the Commission decided to put forward at this stage.

Speaker 146 I can see a flaw in this plan immediately. And I'm pretty sure, as part of, I don't know, we are down at 27 bullet points or 28 bullet points between Putin and Trump at the moment.

Speaker 146 I'm pretty sure that part of that plan was was you hand back those frozen assets.

Speaker 151 You're right. And there's so many angles we could take with the story because there are so many issues here actually.
So I'll try to explain it as best as I can because

Speaker 146 it's good enough for me, that's for sure.

Speaker 151 I'll do my best. So what the European Commission said yesterday was: okay, we need to support Ukraine with further financing.

Speaker 151 What we're suggested to do is to use the so-called frozen Russian assets that are held on the European continent.

Speaker 151 So what the Commission is trying to do here is to try to use the assets that are available across the bloc, not just in Belgium.

Speaker 151 Because we know Belgium, where the majority of the assets are held, has had very strong legal concerns about this problem.

Speaker 151 But even before the Commission put forward this proposal, Belgium was already saying they had issues with it.

Speaker 151 We heard, for instance, from the Foreign Affairs Minister, Maxime Prévault, saying that they were going to plead for alternatives here, and indeed they believe that EU borrowing is the best option rather than using the frozen Russian assets.

Speaker 118 So, Ursula herself is a sales lady, and she came out with these two proposals.

Speaker 60 One, well, we'll just borrow the money, or we can steal it from the Russians over here.

Speaker 86 And our analyst explains what that was really about.

Speaker 72 It was your typical, would you like the sandals, the sneakers, or the shoes I really want to sell you?

Speaker 151 What the European Commission also suggested yesterday was: if we don't go down the route of using the frozen Russian assets, we can indeed go to the markets and actually borrow cash to support Ukraine.

Speaker 151 But that is actually even more complicated from a European perspective because in order to do so, you would need all of the member states, all of the 27, to say yes to that plan.

Speaker 151 And we know countries such as Hungary are likely to raise issues with that.

Speaker 151 So one Euro official told me yesterday that by putting forward two proposals, proposals, what the European Commission is trying to do here is to show to the member states that the most viable option is still to go down the route of the frozen Russian asset.

Speaker 141 Now, we know the Russians think this is illegal.

Speaker 66 It is illegal.

Speaker 33 It would end

Speaker 17 at least the European financial

Speaker 2 integrity.

Speaker 57 Who would ever want to bank with anything?

Speaker 1 Why would you send your money over there for any investment purposes or anything for that matter if they're going to steal it?

Speaker 15 Well, according to Ursula, on a whim.

Speaker 2 Listen to this.

Speaker 15 Listen, who's egging her on to do it?

Speaker 193 We have informed the U.S. administration.
I've spoken, for example, to Scott Besant that we are planning before, right before today,

Speaker 193 that we're planning on developing

Speaker 193 a system of the reparations loan. It was positively received.

Speaker 29 I've also informed the others.

Speaker 49 I could just hear, yeah, yeah, do it, Ursula. Good idea.

Speaker 9 Go ahead, do it, do it, do it, do it.

Speaker 133 You can do it.

Speaker 148 Who cares about the city of London? Who cares about Frank?

Speaker 43 Do it. Just do it.

Speaker 193 Who have potentially immobilized Russian assets.

Speaker 193 And the construction is in a way that it invites others also to join

Speaker 193 with their immobilized Russian assets

Speaker 193 so that they can contribute also to

Speaker 193 the financing of Ukraine and contribute in the way the

Speaker 193 reparations loan is working.

Speaker 59 Dude, this is so dumb.

Speaker 87 I don't even understand.

Speaker 17 Is her job, is it to kill the European Union?

Speaker 16 Maybe we've misjudged her.

Speaker 23 Maybe she's a Manchurian candidate.

Speaker 1 I don't think so.

Speaker 104 And listen to this.

Speaker 157 If that wasn't stupid enough, oh,

Speaker 195 we got to top her.

Speaker 196 The move that looks set to turn off the tap on Russian gas forever were praised by the European Commission President.

Speaker 193 We're turning that page and we're turning it for good.

Speaker 193 This is the dawn of a new era, the era of Europe's full energy independence from Russia.

Speaker 196 After pledging to reduce Russian energy intake following the full-scale invasion of Ukraine, the share of Russian gas in EU imports has fallen from 45% in 2021 to 12% as of October this year.

Speaker 196 But while Europe has slashed pipeline deliveries, it's partly turned to liquefied natural gas, shipped by sea, unloaded at ports, and fed back into the network.

Speaker 20 That's convenient.

Speaker 196 Imports of Russian LNG into the EU are still expected to amount to 15 billion euros this year.

Speaker 196 Under Wednesday's agreement, Russian pipeline gas will be phased out by the end of September 2027 and LNG imports banned by the end of next year.

Speaker 196 The Commission also wants to end remaining imports of Russian oil with legislation to be proposed next year. But this agreement is already facing challenges from member states.

Speaker 196 Slovakia, still highly reliant on gas and oil from Moscow, is weighing its legal options, while Hungary's foreign minister says his country already has a plan.

Speaker 197 As soon as the Repower EU plan is formally adopted, we will immediately challenge it before the EU Court of Justice.

Speaker 1 Legal proceedings will start without delay. Preparatory work is already underway.

Speaker 52 We will do everything necessary to defend Hungary's energy security.

Speaker 196 Meanwhile, the Kremlin has condemned the move, saying it would doom Europe to becoming less competitive and lead to higher prices for consumers.

Speaker 89 Of course.

Speaker 10 These people are insane.

Speaker 17 And right on queue,

Speaker 78 in the Netherlands, where they have an open energy market, which means

Speaker 36 you can brand your own version of energy.

Speaker 18 Oh, we're the green guys.

Speaker 139 Take our electricity.

Speaker 86 Every single one of them is now introducing smart heating.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 21 So,

Speaker 33 so you will get a, you know, this is, we, this is, this already failed here in America, but yeah, we're going to give you a thermostat that we can control to heat your home smartly.

Speaker 1 You remember it was yeah, the remote control thermostat.

Speaker 11 I think it was three years ago, maybe I forget.

Speaker 1 It was longer than that.

Speaker 111 Two or three years ago, we had friends here.

Speaker 137 They're in their 70s.

Speaker 195 And, you know, the business people that have

Speaker 112 some stores around here, used to do some real estate.

Speaker 83 And they both had the flu, which is not nice.

Speaker 198 But he said, he sent out a text message to say, hey, you know, I signed up for that smart heating thing.

Speaker 47 And now it's,

Speaker 141 you know, it's 28 degrees.

Speaker 40 And we can't turn the heat up manually

Speaker 53 because they had opted into one of those stupid plans.

Speaker 127 So I had to take a space heater over to them.

Speaker 67 This is the dumbest idea.

Speaker 11 All of Europe is being ruined by this woman.

Speaker 2 It's, I don't know.

Speaker 1 So, this is a capture by the Greens. I mean, this is obviously a problem.
Now, this brings us to another point.

Speaker 1 I think McGregor made it, or somebody did, which is they predict that Germany, because of the

Speaker 1 AFD,

Speaker 1 at some point, they're going to cave and the AFD is going to take over over the place.

Speaker 29 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And the first thing they're going to do is get out of the EU and get out of NATO. Of course.
Because then they can do business. Russia, really? Well, you don't want their gas? We'll take it.

Speaker 1 And the Russians will have it at a cheaper price. I mean, anything's cheaper than hauling it over in a ship.

Speaker 2 Right.

Speaker 1 And then so they'll just ramp back up. I mean, Germany is the industrial powerhouse that can ramp up in a minute if you give them cheap energy.

Speaker 1 And they'll just run roughshod over the rest of the rest of these European countries, which are going to be what's left of the EU.

Speaker 55 They're going to be starving.

Speaker 2 Starving.

Speaker 15 The hunger winter.

Speaker 104 Let's get an update from the North Sea Nexus on how the Russian peace talks went.

Speaker 174 The announcement of the EU's plans came after high-stakes peace talks between the U.S. and Russia in Moscow failed, once again, to produce any breakthrough.

Speaker 174 Russia has dismissed any suggestion that Vladimir Putin rejected all of President Trump's proposals. But at a a native...

Speaker 53 That's an interesting line that she uses here.

Speaker 1 That's very interesting construction. You're right.
I heard it too. Yeah, she's saying.
But you're going to have to elucidate, read it or

Speaker 1 repeat it or

Speaker 2 I'll do both.

Speaker 100 So she says, Russia has rejected any claims that Putin

Speaker 124 rejected all of the proposals.

Speaker 112 So what you're hearing as a casual listener of the BBC is, oh, Russia rejected all claims,

Speaker 99 rejected everything.

Speaker 142 But that's not what she actually said.

Speaker 41 She said the Russians rejected this notion that Putin rejected everything.

Speaker 174 Again, to produce any breakthrough, Russia has dismissed any suggestion that Vladimir Putin rejected all of President Trump's proposals.

Speaker 174 But at a NATO meeting in Brussels this morning, the Secretary General Mark Rutte said if the peace talks took too long, there were two ways to put pressure on Russia.

Speaker 190 One is making sure that the Russians understand that the weapon flow into weapon will keep on going.

Speaker 190 That's exactly what's happening today, thanks to the US, thanks to the Europeans, the US sending its crucial gear to Ukraine, paid for by Canada and European allies, but also Europe and Canada doing a lot bilaterally.

Speaker 190 And secondly, making sure that the economic sanctions bite, that they are effective.

Speaker 7 That's also exactly what's happening.

Speaker 147 Despite the customary smiles...

Speaker 99 They bite, the people will be very cold in Europe, but they bite.

Speaker 109 Okay, there's no hand.

Speaker 147 They bite.

Speaker 147 Despite the customary smiles and handshakes for the cameras, NATO countries meeting here know they've been sidelined from the Ukraine peace process by their biggest and most influential member, the U.S.

Speaker 30 Secretary of State Marco Rubio is conspicuous by his absence.

Speaker 147 President Trump is pushing for an immediate end to the war and has already stopped giving weapons to Ukraine.

Speaker 2 What does that even mean?

Speaker 126 Rubio is conspicuous by his absence.

Speaker 161 What is the subtext of that?

Speaker 1 There is some subtext because in all the analysis I've been listening to, there's something about Rubio.

Speaker 1 I think McGregor's right. The whole thing is really about getting a bone for Trump and ending the war that way with some phony baloney thing that's going to happen.
And Rubio is not part of it because

Speaker 1 he would.

Speaker 1 That's not him. They want these two sales guys in there,

Speaker 1 Witkoff and Kushner, to try to push this across the line. Rubio's not involved.
He's just not involved.

Speaker 30 Secretary of State Marco Rubio is conspicuous by his absence.

Speaker 147 President Trump is pushing for an immediate end to the war and has already stopped giving weapons to Ukraine, although he is still willing to sell them via Europe for now.

Speaker 147 As for the Putin-Witkoff meeting in Moscow last night, the Kremlin said it would be wrong to suggest President Putin had rejected the US proposals and insisted there could be more meetings with the Americans for as long as necessary.

Speaker 147 Crucially, though, there's no sign whatsoever Moscow is ready to give up its key demand for Ukrainian territory it hasn't yet taken in exchange for ending the war.

Speaker 118 So that's the BBC's take.

Speaker 176 And remember, it starts with the talks have failed.

Speaker 25 Let's listen to the.

Speaker 1 Yeah, this is the BBC. They're just gone off the rails.
I have to say that this brings back to mind the Zelensky either fleeing the country

Speaker 2 or getting blown up.

Speaker 29 Blown up.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 But I think he's going to flee the country.

Speaker 79 Well, they only have two weeks, two weeks until

Speaker 156 the money is on the table or decided what they're going to do

Speaker 61 to continue to VEP and flow.

Speaker 60 But

Speaker 15 the thing is, I think there's an ambassador somewhere.

Speaker 118 There's the Ukrainian ambassador to, I want to say, the UK.

Speaker 91 And I think

Speaker 115 if Zelensky goes out, that guy comes in.

Speaker 189 I've been hearing his name.

Speaker 75 Let me see. What is.

Speaker 1 Well, Zelensky's got to go because once he lost his aide-de-camp, the guy was really running anything that his producer, his

Speaker 1 TV, radio,

Speaker 2 his producer, right?

Speaker 123 His producer, yes.

Speaker 1 Once that guy left,

Speaker 1 he fleed.

Speaker 1 You know, he's not indicted. He's gone.

Speaker 2 He took off.

Speaker 32 Yeah.

Speaker 44 Oh, hey. Once he left,

Speaker 42 Zelensky's rudderless.

Speaker 189 He's in Monaco.

Speaker 1 Oh, he went to Monaco?

Speaker 25 That's where they all are.

Speaker 15 If you go to Monaco,

Speaker 2 there's Rolls-Royce's, Ferraris, all.

Speaker 1 Oh, no, I've been to Monaco a couple of times.

Speaker 78 But you didn't let me finish.

Speaker 199 All with Ukrainian license plates.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's I don't, I never noticed.

Speaker 80 But I'll say this.

Speaker 1 Monaco, if you're going to escape to someplace and they let you do it, you want to go to Monaco.

Speaker 55 That's where I'd go.

Speaker 2 That's right.

Speaker 198 Okay, here's the French 24 version of the talks report.

Speaker 200 The Trump administration's top envoys have once again left the Kremlin empty-handed with no peace deal.

Speaker 200 Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner sat sat down with Russia's Vladimir Putin, tasked with finding a way to end the war in Ukraine. They discussed the framework of the revised US-backed peace plan.

Speaker 200 Putin's foreign policy aide said it was a positive discussion, but more work needs to be done.

Speaker 201 The conversation was very useful, constructive, and very meaningful.

Speaker 201 It lasted not for five minutes, but for five hours.

Speaker 13 We could agree with certain things,

Speaker 201 and President Putin confirmed this to his interlocutors.

Speaker 201 We criticised some things, and the President did not hide our critical

Speaker 201 negative attitude to a number of proposals.

Speaker 200 No details have been given about what was discussed, but Yuri Yushikov said they did talk about the territorial problem.

Speaker 200 Moscow has not backed on on its territorial demands, seeking Russian sovereignty not just in the 20% of Ukrainian land currently controlled by its troops, but also calling on the Ukrainian army to retreat from the front line and concede further losses.

Speaker 109 I love how she says there's no details, but then she has all these details.

Speaker 72 She got a lot of details.

Speaker 200 Russia's also calling for a more than 30% reduction in the size of Ukraine's army and the possibility of Ukrainian NATO membership to be completely off the table.

Speaker 200 Ukrainian President Zelensky has been on tour around Europe to fortify support against Russia's invasion.

Speaker 200 Before details of the U.S.-Russian meeting emerged, he once again reiterated his country's need for long-term deterrence against Russian aggression.

Speaker 148 So that's a little different than the BBC.

Speaker 15 It's like, well, the Russians right there said, well, you know, we got along on some things.

Speaker 161 They listened to us.

Speaker 82 We had some points we didn't agree on.

Speaker 36 There was a real conversation.

Speaker 53 But oh, no, not according to the BBC.

Speaker 75 Oh, no. Oh, no.
No.

Speaker 26 So, two weeks.

Speaker 83 The clock is ticking.

Speaker 88 Two weeks for the money.

Speaker 137 They're going to have to make a decision.

Speaker 55 And the European

Speaker 137 Commission has to make a decision.

Speaker 91 Are we going to borrow the money?

Speaker 78 Are we going to steal the money?

Speaker 66 It's such a great, this is a great show to watch.

Speaker 2 I really love it.

Speaker 153 It's funny.

Speaker 43 Especially with Ursula and Rutte.

Speaker 53 Those two just make it great.

Speaker 72 And then, oh, all of a sudden, let me ask you a question.

Speaker 198 What is the point of banning countries

Speaker 189 from international events?

Speaker 189 Like, you know, Russia. Russia is not allowed to be in Olympics.

Speaker 1 Virtue signaling.

Speaker 80 No real reason.

Speaker 76 I mean, there is really no reason.

Speaker 195 It doesn't do anything.

Speaker 15 It doesn't.

Speaker 1 In fact, it does the opposite of what these events are supposed to do, which is bring people together.

Speaker 66 Well, here's the latest.

Speaker 203 It's a major test for the world's most beloved international song competition.

Speaker 203 Members of the European Broadcasting Union, the body that organized Eurovision, will meet Thursday to decide whether Israel can compete in 2026.

Speaker 203 Public broadcasters from Spain, Slovenia, the Netherlands, and Ireland have threatened to withdraw if Israel participates, citing the Palestinian death toll in Gaza due to Israel's offensive.

Speaker 203 A boycott could be a blow for sponsorship and viewership, particularly by Spain, which is one of the big five contributing countries.

Speaker 197 We hold the same position we had months ago when we said Israel's participation in the Eurovision Festival was untenable for two main reasons.

Speaker 197 Firstly, because of the genocide it has perpetrated in Gaza.

Speaker 197 Eurovision is, of course, a contest, but human rights are not a contest.

Speaker 203 Eurovision has always aimed to remain apolitical, but Israel's participation has heavily influenced the last few editions.

Speaker 203 This year, critics accused Israel of unfairly boosting support for its entrant Yuvar Rafael, the survivor of the October 7th attacks, pushing her to a second-place finish despite little backing from professional juries.

Speaker 203 The controversy pushed EBU to change its voting rules, aimed at pacifying angry member states.

Speaker 203 Members will discuss Thursday whether these new rules are adequate, or else there will be a vote on participation. Should Israel be voted out, it wouldn't be the first country to be barred.

Speaker 203 Russia has been excluded from Eurovision since its 2022 invasion of Ukraine and Belarus since 2021. Eurovision 2026 is scheduled to take place next May in Austria.

Speaker 79 So the Dutch?

Speaker 92 The Dutch?

Speaker 157 Oh, no, if Israel, uh, if Israel is in it, we're out.

Speaker 148 We're going to boycott it.

Speaker 79 What?

Speaker 58 What?

Speaker 36 This presents a great opportunity, though.

Speaker 61 This is where America should step up and should say, we're creating the gayest song contest of the world ever.

Speaker 78 And everybody's invited.

Speaker 1 And we can do it.

Speaker 58 Yes.

Speaker 104 And Trump could do it.

Speaker 198 The gayest song contest in the world.

Speaker 134 Let's get rid of this Eurovision crap.

Speaker 18 And we'll even give the UK an advantage because they're always last.

Speaker 69 We'll give him a five-point advantage.

Speaker 1 It would be fantastic. Handicap.

Speaker 107 A handicap. Thank you.

Speaker 95 A handicap.

Speaker 46 It would be great.

Speaker 2 This is

Speaker 108 that's what they're worried about. Oh, man, man, man.

Speaker 18 So, all eyes, two weeks.

Speaker 57 I'll keep my eye on it.

Speaker 1 We'll be on top of it.

Speaker 79 Of course. It's so good.

Speaker 1 um i have a couple of clips from two actually which is a three but it's not really no in fact they screwed it up twice that's good to know uh-huh yes uh

Speaker 38 yeah so which one is it a series well the first

Speaker 1 the ones that say one are both the same

Speaker 1 which is should be because they're one but well i look at the time and i say oh i forgot to cut it

Speaker 1 and i'm guessing it cuts off i'll tell you when to stop it okay here we go good afternoon everybody.

Speaker 136 A little bit of history before I get to what we're

Speaker 55 the old guy. The old geezer.

Speaker 1 The 90-year-old guy.

Speaker 175 The only guy who's still on top of Arctic Frost in our government.

Speaker 92 All right, good.

Speaker 28 We love him.

Speaker 136 I started the investigation into Arctic Frost, July 2022, based on

Speaker 136 whistleblower disclosures. Based on on these disclosures, we know that weaponized taxpayer-funded agents and prosecutors advanced the investigation.

Speaker 136 As Arctic Frost advanced, 92 Republican organizations or individuals were targeted, not just Trump, and they were added to its scope. And author of that targeting list was Special Agent Washington

Speaker 136 Walter Gierardino. He's the same weaponized agent who was involved in other cases against Republicans, including Peter Navarro.

Speaker 136 We've learned Jack Smith secretly obtained phone record data from at least eight senators and one congressman.

Speaker 136 I've recently been informed by Verizon that at least 11 members with Verizon accounts were affected.

Speaker 136 That includes a hardline for Senator Cruz's office and a staffer's cell phone for former Senator Loeffler.

Speaker 136 ATT informed me they challenged the legal basis for Jack Smith's efforts, and Smith backed down.

Speaker 21 We already had this, though.

Speaker 2 I thought we had this.

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, he keeps repeating it because it's grassly. And so it's like

Speaker 1 keep getting the sense that this is a commercial for ATT

Speaker 116 because we protect your privacy.

Speaker 78 Pay no attention to that building on 2nd Street in San Francisco where we tap the entire internet,

Speaker 22 the building with no windows, yeah.

Speaker 25 The building's beautiful, it is a beautiful window, yeah, beautiful.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you can stand out in front of it and point at it, and the cops will show up. Yeah, uh,

Speaker 1 yeah, you don't have to play anymore of this, but this is that this is getting no coverage whatsoever by the mainstream media at all.

Speaker 1 And I'd like to know why.

Speaker 1 It's like the story we covered earlier in the show, and it's another thing

Speaker 1 you brought it into clip it. No, zero coverage.

Speaker 19 No, but we need to we need to do uh you know

Speaker 14 war crimes.

Speaker 2 War crimes.

Speaker 1 So this is a follow-up. Not to we can drop the Arctic Frost stuff and go to Jack Smith called.
This is another thing that nothing's going to come of it.

Speaker 1 I'll be definitely dogging this hearing when it happens.

Speaker 130 Special Counselor Jack Smith has been called to appear before the House Judiciary Committee. In a letter, Chairman Jim Jordan told Smith this is over the prosecution of President Trump.

Speaker 130 Smith investigated President Trump for allegedly meddling in the 2020 election.

Speaker 130 He eventually brought criminal charges against Trump, one related to the election, another for allegedly mishandling classified documents. Both cases were dropped after Trump won re-election.

Speaker 130 The subpoena also demands all documents and communications related to Smith's time as special counsel. Smith is expected to appear on December 17th.

Speaker 42 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 38 Okay.

Speaker 1 Nothing will come of it. No.

Speaker 1 This is embarrassing.

Speaker 25 Well, I

Speaker 78 still think that there's more going on at the Department of Justice because Bondi will do whatever she's told.

Speaker 88 You know, the whole point of putting her in charge, and I presume Patel and Code Bongino is to rout out the bad actors and all the nonsense and all the crap that's been going on for years and years and years.

Speaker 35 And I think some of it will come out.

Speaker 191 I don't know about

Speaker 62 this particular item,

Speaker 72 but we're going to,

Speaker 46 it has to be.

Speaker 179 Trump is going, as long as he stays alive.

Speaker 180 We had a perfect MRI, by the way. So

Speaker 2 everything's perfect. Perfect.
Best ever.

Speaker 61 In fact, he aced it.

Speaker 141 He aced his MRI.

Speaker 1 He aced the MRI. That's a good.

Speaker 1 I got an x-ray the other day. I aced it.

Speaker 15 I aced it, man. No problem.

Speaker 76 Yeah,

Speaker 154 he's out for blood for everything.

Speaker 57 He is ripping apart all of these systems, all of it.

Speaker 1 Well, as best he can.

Speaker 11 Don't forget, USAID shut down.

Speaker 1 I mean, yeah, that's really good. That's a big deal.

Speaker 25 Huge thing.

Speaker 1 Of course, the Democrats will get in because nobody votes in the midterms, especially the lazy Republicans.

Speaker 1 And so they'll get back in and they'll make a mess of things once they get back to the House back.

Speaker 153 They won't get the Senate back.

Speaker 189 That's why you activate Flynn, get everybody afraid of the Muslims.

Speaker 109 Oh, we got to remove the Muslims.

Speaker 1 Maybe. I don't think that's going to do the trick.

Speaker 91 But maybe, maybe not.

Speaker 1 Now, I have a pre-donation clip.

Speaker 15 Okay, perfect.

Speaker 17 And can I just remind everybody?

Speaker 115 I was talking to

Speaker 53 a friend yesterday, and

Speaker 134 he works for a very big Christian organization.

Speaker 100 And his wife, she is,

Speaker 88 she's a no-agenda nut.

Speaker 139 She loves the show.

Speaker 168 He says to me, my wife listens more to you and John than to me, which, by the way, she's a good woman.

Speaker 176 A good woman will keep your marriage healthy for a long, long time.

Speaker 92 Yep.

Speaker 92 Another person on the call who also listens.

Speaker 1 She's probably listening while she's cleaning.

Speaker 1 That's how good of a woman she is.

Speaker 75 Okay. Thanks, John.
I'm really helpful.

Speaker 2 Very helpful.

Speaker 17 And his colleagues, he says, hey, you know, I didn't realize it, but when you guys go to thank people, donation, there's like a whole hour of show after that.

Speaker 43 I said, yes.

Speaker 72 He says, I look down.

Speaker 2 It's like, oh, there's an, yes. We thank people who are executive and associate executive producers, and then we come back with more show.

Speaker 87 Yeah. It's amazing.

Speaker 2 People think, oh, there's donations.

Speaker 139 Guess the show's over.

Speaker 1 We don't do donations at the end of the show. No, but in fact, in fact, we even have a tip at the end after the second round of donations.

Speaker 83 For the day, and there's stuff in the donation segment that you are missing.

Speaker 1 Yes, every so often there's some really great stuff.

Speaker 36 More often than every so.

Speaker 16 Anyway, your pre-donation clip, which is what?

Speaker 1 So this woman, Lily Gaddis. I don't know if you're familiar with her.
She's a YouTuber. Oh.

Speaker 1 She is a character on YouTube that is, and she got demonetized and kicked off, and that's the point of the donation segment, because she was reliant on

Speaker 1 YouTube for her income. She was making good money.
Oh, no. Oh, no.
But they kicked her off. Now, I will remind you, people may have seen these clips, but

Speaker 1 sometimes she does

Speaker 1 her show, which is bitching and moaning or giving advice or whatever. And she'll do it in blackface.

Speaker 110 You do find the most interesting and entertaining people, John.

Speaker 2 You do.

Speaker 1 So Lily will go in blackface, but she's only blackface. Her hands are still white.

Speaker 44 They're like bone white.

Speaker 1 And she's in complete blackface lecturing black women. Oh, goodness.
And I have to say,

Speaker 1 yeah, it's racist. And I guess it would be offensive if it wasn't so funny.
And

Speaker 1 but so now she's singing the blues. And this is the reason.

Speaker 18 Now, so this will be hard to will this work by not seeing her doing this in blackface?

Speaker 2 No, no, she's not in blackface where she's doing this.

Speaker 1 She's now holding my because he can't even talk and do it right.

Speaker 1 And she's lost her, I guess, her producer because it doesn't sound good, bad audio. And she is lamenting the fact that she got kicked off and she's sorry because she's just being herself.
Blackface.

Speaker 1 Just being herself as a goofball. And it says to me, this is why we

Speaker 1 don't rely on something like YouTube for our income or we don't rely on advertisers and all the rest of it, because this can happen to us if we didn't go through the trouble and expense of having our own servers, we have our own infrastructure, we have our own

Speaker 1 RSS fees, sysadmin,

Speaker 1 which costs money,

Speaker 1 and

Speaker 1 we have these expensive,

Speaker 1 but we don't have to worry about this woman's plight.

Speaker 131 I have officially been demonetized on YouTube, which was my sole form of income. Aside from a few tiny little outlets here and there, YouTube was my main money maker.
And

Speaker 131 I'm kind of stupid. I don't have a five-year plan.
I don't plan ahead. I live in the moment.
I put it all out there. I'm an open book.
I live with my heart on my sleeve.

Speaker 131 You know, if I say something, I mean it.

Speaker 72 I couldn't censor myself.

Speaker 131 I refuse to censor myself. It's just impossible.
I really tried. I really tried my best.
Believe it or not, what you saw on YouTube was the vanilla me. It was like the vanilla of the vanilla.

Speaker 131 And I tried my best, but they want to keep a real n down. Okay.
And that's what they're doing.

Speaker 45 Yeah,

Speaker 178 we would not have lasted more more than 18 years if we relied on any third party.

Speaker 1 Maybe we would have lasted 18 months.

Speaker 86 Yeah, it's uh, it's sad when I when I see this happen.

Speaker 87 And when people say to me, Hey man,

Speaker 46 why don't you stream the show on X like Tim Poole and Tucker and other smart people?

Speaker 86 And I don't answer that, but I will answer it here.

Speaker 11 Because if for whatever reason, because whenever you have a big

Speaker 83 sensor button, it can be used against against you if it exists it can and probably will be used against you eventually

Speaker 1 and if we here's the other problem well let me finish my thought okay

Speaker 2 if we build up an audience on right who are used to watching it there and then all of a sudden it goes away so you lose your audience at the whim of a madman

Speaker 1 you know this is exactly what i was going to say and you you you well obviously caught me in the process well i've but yes you you get they'd get dependent on the on the outlet.

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 1 And then you go away, they kicked you off the outlet, and the next thing you know, what happened to them? I don't know. Who cares? This is the entire reason.

Speaker 144 This is the entire reason that Dave Jones and I started podcastindex.org, which we make no money from.

Speaker 15 And we started over five years ago when Apple started de-platforming, not demonitor, but de-platforming podcasts from Apple podcasts.

Speaker 59 And because at the time,

Speaker 78 all podcast apps were all checking Apple's database, which they leave open,

Speaker 10 they disappeared from all the other apps.

Speaker 115 This is the antithesis of podcasting.

Speaker 62 And so that's why you want to get a modern podcast app.

Speaker 42 So your favorite shows, and these shows, and they do video too, by the way.

Speaker 178 You can do video on those podcast apps.

Speaker 85 They work quite well, actually.

Speaker 116 Get smart, people.

Speaker 79 Figure it out.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 175 You know, we literally saw Twitter going from banning people on the right and now X is banning people on the left.

Speaker 88 I mean, you do not want to be anywhere near a banhammer.

Speaker 19 It's just, that's just the fact.

Speaker 84 So, yes, the only problem we still seem to have, which I don't think is something we can solve, is emails.

Speaker 126 And, you know, and Tina always, she's always, oh, happened again.

Speaker 110 John had to send out another email because,

Speaker 111 you know, you have all your metrics, you know how it works.

Speaker 17 And these emails,

Speaker 96 whether it's the wrong emoji or you put Trump in there three times instead of two,

Speaker 67 outfits like Gmail will just mark it as spam.

Speaker 61 And then it goes away or doesn't even show at all.

Speaker 1 Gmail is inconsistent.

Speaker 59 The problem with Gmail is everyone uses it.

Speaker 58 That's the problem.

Speaker 2 The problem is the real problem.

Speaker 127 That's the real problem.

Speaker 1 So, yes, I sent this thing out because there was no,

Speaker 1 I didn't get enough kickback on the

Speaker 1 auto replies. I used

Speaker 53 like 10 people or something. They always

Speaker 1 usually 10 to 15 auto replies come back. Out of office.

Speaker 1 This was more pronounced on the weekends, but this happens all the time. None.
Zero.

Speaker 39 Hey, by the way. I got none.

Speaker 2 Who was it?

Speaker 72 Who still puts out-of-office

Speaker 86 replies on their email?

Speaker 124 Who does this anymore? Lots of people.

Speaker 1 More people than you do.

Speaker 36 That's got to be a boomer move if I ever saw one.

Speaker 43 Yeah, well, but it's symmetric. You're never on the email.

Speaker 1 It's not that many, but it's enough that I notice it.

Speaker 4 You're never knocked on.

Speaker 1 So I sent a note out saying if you didn't get, I had more responses on this particular one. I had at least 50 people, and that means there's got to be at least a factor of five

Speaker 1 more that said, no, I never got the email. I looked in my box.

Speaker 43 I looked here.

Speaker 1 I looked there. I looked everywhere.
And it wasn't in here. It wasn't in promotion.
It wasn't in spam. It didn't come.

Speaker 1 And I got like, wow, there's like one after the other after the other.

Speaker 1 They sent this note back saying that they never heard of the, they never saw the email, and then including the ones that really bother me, which is, I've always gotten the email.

Speaker 1 It's always come except this time.

Speaker 50 So what?

Speaker 52 How does that work?

Speaker 1 There was nothing. I'm using the same template.
for the email that I always use.

Speaker 1 Basically, it's the same email, except it's got, you know, the tomorrow's show is different every time. That's the main thing.
And the memes are different, and so are is the hypocrite of the week.

Speaker 1 They're all different. But, but it's the same template, and and I, I'm, I'm go light on the uh on the headline.

Speaker 1 I can't figure out for the life of me why this one got this is a this was and I have to credit, I have to say this has got to be mail chimp side.

Speaker 2 Could be, could be.

Speaker 180 I mean, I just have to remind you that when we had um pod show, before it was Meevio,

Speaker 156 that we got a deal from a company that was also funded by the same investors, Kleiner Perkins, and I think maybe it was Sequoia only, but the big guys.

Speaker 141 And that was a company that made deals with the big email providers, Yahoo, Gmail,

Speaker 2 probably

Speaker 2 AOL.

Speaker 180 And you had to pay because we had customer service emails that needed to go out.

Speaker 45 You register, you get an email, and you had to pay these companies so that you would be guaranteed delivery.

Speaker 82 It was a huge and was like $10,000 a month just for starters.

Speaker 1 Yes, I do not believe that MailChimp has not paid this bribe.

Speaker 118 Well, then there's the problem.

Speaker 11 Who pays the bribe?

Speaker 37 We got to go with those guys.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 I think MailChimp does pay the bribe.

Speaker 99 Do you think they pay the bribe?

Speaker 2 Well, they got to update.

Speaker 1 But I don't care because it's still having him having fails. I think a lot of it happens on the MailChimp side.
It doesn't go out. Or who knows what.

Speaker 1 Whatever Whatever the case, there's a couple of systems I'm going to check out. It's a pain in the ass.
I expect to do this in January.

Speaker 1 But it's like, it was a very annoying moment. Well, to send out this second email.
And here's the problem with doing it.

Speaker 1 I don't mind doing it because it's easy to crank out a second email because they charge it as a flat fee so I can send an email out every hour if I wanted to.

Speaker 1 But every time you send out a second email, you get a bunch of people that see it and go, oh, yeah, I'm unsubscribing. So they take themselves off the list.

Speaker 1 So we have an X number of unsubscribers that go up exponentially when you send out too much email.

Speaker 80 I know.

Speaker 92 You're spamming me, bro. I don't want you to spam Dvorak.

Speaker 89 Hey, with that,

Speaker 49 I want to thank you for your courage.

Speaker 157 Say in the morning to you, the man who put the C in Quayar.

Speaker 22 Say hello to my friend on the other end, the one, the only, Mr.

Speaker 4 John C

Speaker 2 Dvorak.

Speaker 1 Yeah, in the morning to you, Saturday, the Marsha, Sea Boost on the Graphy in the Air.

Speaker 94 Drops in the water, and all

Speaker 80 the names are nice out there.

Speaker 2 Yeah, hold on a second. Trolls, let me candy.

Speaker 4 Don't move.

Speaker 4 Where are you going?

Speaker 83 All right.

Speaker 61 1,513.

Speaker 75 It's cold outside.

Speaker 180 What are you doing, people?

Speaker 60 Those are people who are listening live to the show as we speak.

Speaker 104 Many of them are in the troll room being interactive.

Speaker 2 They're helping.

Speaker 187 They're engaging.

Speaker 16 They're engaging with our content.

Speaker 1 That's how we got the notice about the dentist at the

Speaker 2 Epstein Island. Exactly.

Speaker 89 They help.

Speaker 15 They're helpful.

Speaker 177 It's like our own studio audience, but they can talk back.

Speaker 82 And that's just one of the thousands of producers that we have.

Speaker 19 As I said, they're listening live, and we talked about it earlier.

Speaker 115 Get yourself a modern podcast app at podcastapps.com.

Speaker 16 That'll even notify you when we go live.

Speaker 86 And then you just tap on that notification and you hear the live stream in your podcast app.

Speaker 2 Mind blown.

Speaker 156 And because of the pod ping technology included in all of these apps, when we we post the show, you're not waiting around like a schlub watching every post.

Speaker 102 Wow, yeah, I just got the show.

Speaker 60 It's not a, you didn't upload to Apple yet, man.

Speaker 19 Hey, are we on Spotify yet?

Speaker 115 I don't think Spotify approved us.

Speaker 32 Let me see.

Speaker 118 Creators.spotify.com.

Speaker 1 And we can bitch.

Speaker 110 Yeah, well, let me see.

Speaker 1 First, they were stealing our material.

Speaker 10 First, they were stealing it without our permission.

Speaker 2 Auto op. Oh, oh, we're on.
We're up. No, we're not.

Speaker 53 Nope. We're still processing.

Speaker 162 We're still under review.

Speaker 86 So that means we're not getting in.

Speaker 63 We're not going to get in.

Speaker 77 We're no good.

Speaker 79 Imagine

Speaker 2 we're no good.

Speaker 1 This is going to get us in.

Speaker 19 No, imagine if we had built up a following of people listening on Spotify.

Speaker 191 Because from day one, when they started and they had that contract, I'm like, no, we're not doing that.

Speaker 74 Then you said, now we're not doing that. Bad, bad, bad.
Bad.

Speaker 86 And then they took us off.

Speaker 189 And

Speaker 161 imagine if there were tens of thousands of people listening or hundreds of thousands, and then all of of a sudden it's gone.

Speaker 195 So, no, you can't count on these people. They are no good.

Speaker 124 We, of course, are great.

Speaker 161 And that's why people help us in many different ways.

Speaker 198 Time, talent, or treasure.

Speaker 53 We pioneered the value-for-value model, which exactly what John was talking about.

Speaker 168 We don't rely on any platform to pay us.

Speaker 178 We don't have ads inserted.

Speaker 92 You don't have to go to Patreon, who ultimately, you know, that Patreon winds up taking the money on both ends.

Speaker 83 So, if you have a Patreon account

Speaker 56 and your people subscribe to your level, whatever it is, which is a fixed amount, which we don't believe in.

Speaker 1 No, not at all.

Speaker 86 It makes no sense, but okay.

Speaker 194 Then they take, I think, 7%

Speaker 53 of the money you get, that's their processing fee. But the way it works is they also take the processing fee from the person who sent it.

Speaker 1 Oh, so they're double dipping.

Speaker 191 They are. This is what I believe.

Speaker 74 This is what I've heard.

Speaker 2 I don't sense. I don't have it.

Speaker 123 I do.

Speaker 100 Well, yeah, if we were running Patreon, we would.

Speaker 25 Absolutely.

Speaker 108 Yeah, of course.

Speaker 66 So we also like other ways of people helping us.

Speaker 156 We've got end-of-show mixes.

Speaker 83 We have the producers everywhere.

Speaker 43 Producers everywhere.

Speaker 110 I mean, who else has someone who just did a document who did a documentary on drug boats and blowing them up and wasn't allowed to show the footage?

Speaker 37 Come on.

Speaker 86 I mean, these, by the way, I should probably mention this.

Speaker 127 We,

Speaker 108 where did I put it?

Speaker 115 We got a note from Rob, the constitutional lawyer, about Sharia law in Texas.

Speaker 90 Interested?

Speaker 28 Of course.

Speaker 1 You and John have been.

Speaker 81 Is the Pope a Catholic?

Speaker 116 Does the bear crap in the woods?

Speaker 78 You and John have been discussing Sharia law in Texas.

Speaker 61 I barely know anything about Sharia law, but I do know a couple of things that you might find enlightening.

Speaker 182 Bottom line, nothing prevents private parties from practicing Sharia law amongst themselves by agreement.

Speaker 156 This is something that people don't really think about.

Speaker 86 Parties can agree to be bound by whatever body of law they want, just as long as it doesn't run afoul of statute or some judicially recognized public policy.

Speaker 148 I've actually litigated contract disputes in which parties in one state have agreed to be bound by the laws of another state or even in another country or even a set of rules that negotiate between them.

Speaker 137 After all, this is what a contract is, an agreement to do things in a certain way.

Speaker 198 Next time you sign a contract, look for a choice of law provision.

Speaker 53 The odds are good, it will make you subject to the laws of another jurisdiction.

Speaker 83 Second, parties can also resolve their disputes outside the court system.

Speaker 198 Typically, this takes the form of arbitration clause, also very common except in consumer contracts.

Speaker 81 By

Speaker 83 arbitration can take many forms.

Speaker 85 Judge Judy, the People's Court, all these pseudo-courtroom shows are essentially arbitration.

Speaker 42 See, I didn't know that.

Speaker 53 Sharia-style forms are no different as long as the parties agree legitimately.

Speaker 110 Again, there are laws that impose restrictions, especially in the employment and consumer context, where one party wields all the power.

Speaker 191 But as long as an agreement doesn't run afoul of these laws or have a recognized public policy, Muslims and non-Muslims alike can agree to be bound by Sharia law.

Speaker 142 This is not the same thing as enacting city ordinances that conflict with Texas or U.S.

Speaker 16 law.

Speaker 53 It must be done by private agreement. And both parties have to agree.

Speaker 16 So this sounds kind of logical when you think about it.

Speaker 195 But next time you hear Sharia law is coming.

Speaker 55 Well, yeah, that's like your HOA, basically.

Speaker 118 That's what it is.

Speaker 176 And the HOA may be worse.

Speaker 15 Callthesuits.com for all of your Sharia law disputes.

Speaker 118 I'm sure Rob will be happy to help you.

Speaker 17 So now let us thank the artist for episode 1822.

Speaker 189 We titled that one, hold on a second.

Speaker 168 1821, I'm sorry.

Speaker 118 We titled that Genesis.

Speaker 78 That was for the Genesis project, the bailout bailout of the AI companies.

Speaker 79 Great piece of art. I realize,

Speaker 142 because this, this was the artist from Jock 10, J-O-Q-10, Jock 10.

Speaker 1 This is Comic Strip Blogger.

Speaker 86 No, it's not.

Speaker 90 I don't think it's Comic Strip Blogger.

Speaker 57 I don't think so.

Speaker 67 But it came from something you said in the show, which I think we actually

Speaker 118 even put that at the.

Speaker 162 Did we use that at the beginning of the show?

Speaker 140 Where you said, the phone is the devil's playground, playground, man?

Speaker 1 It's comic strip blogger.

Speaker 148 It's not comic strip blogger.

Speaker 2 Well, go back and look.

Speaker 60 I thought it was Jock10.

Speaker 2 Did I not?

Speaker 18 Did I not do that properly?

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, did you credit him wrong on the show?

Speaker 107 Yes, I did. Yeah.

Speaker 55 Well, I feel bad about that.

Speaker 1 Well, you should. Poor Comic Strip Blogger got no credit.
I'm surprised he didn't call.

Speaker 175 Well, I probably got it on the on the let me see if I got it on the main page.

Speaker 187 If I got it on the credit page.

Speaker 99 Let me see.

Speaker 37 No, I got it right on the credit page, but on the page I looked at, it was still wrong.

Speaker 90 So I'm sorry.

Speaker 99 But yes, we broke three rules in picking this art.

Speaker 2 One, gruesome.

Speaker 124 This is the devil.

Speaker 78 The devil head coming out of the phone.

Speaker 26 Two,

Speaker 195 we use the opening clip, which pertained to the art.

Speaker 168 As you said, the phone is the devil's playground.

Speaker 2 And three, comic strip writ blogger. I mean, we broke three rules.

Speaker 25 We know it was three. Devil's tool.
Let's get that.

Speaker 141 Did you say devil's tool?

Speaker 1 Yeah, Satan's tool.

Speaker 184 Satan's tool. There you go.

Speaker 107 And the third rule we broke is comics or blogger.

Speaker 99 We try to always stay away from this art.

Speaker 1 Comics writ blogger because you hate him.

Speaker 50 I love him. What are you talking about?

Speaker 2 We usually block his art.

Speaker 1 It's always a butt. Where's the butt here?

Speaker 1 No, this was an excellent piece.

Speaker 43 It was a good piece.

Speaker 1 The real rule that broke was the gruesomeness because I try to avoid it. Because I don't like the associative problems that it creates.

Speaker 74 It's no good.

Speaker 1 Yeah, for marketing.

Speaker 1 But it's such a nice piece. And it is, and every time I bring this up to anybody, say it called a cell phone Satan's tool.

Speaker 152 They all, yeah, yeah,

Speaker 1 that's right. And they're right back on it.

Speaker 2 That's right.

Speaker 1 Looking away. Hold on a second.

Speaker 39 I got a

Speaker 39 text message.

Speaker 17 Let me go back.

Speaker 1 Enlarging.

Speaker 100 And biggering.

Speaker 1 Thumbing this and thumbing that.

Speaker 100 Have you ever watched women go through Instagram?

Speaker 1 I don't know. I don't know what they're.
I don't ask what they're looking at.

Speaker 86 Well, if you see it, then they're always stopping on a picture and then they're zooming in.

Speaker 1 Always zooming in. Oh, yeah.
Look at that bitch.

Speaker 66 What she got over here?

Speaker 42 Okay.

Speaker 100 Let me see her neck.

Speaker 17 Okay.

Speaker 100 Let me see her arms. Okay.
Let me look at her ankles.

Speaker 118 They're so judgmental.

Speaker 90 Not all women, of course. Sorry, women.

Speaker 1 Yes, there's plenty of women that don't even use use the phone.

Speaker 82 And they listen to this show.

Speaker 17 That's the one.

Speaker 83 And talking about great women, Baronetess Kelly.

Speaker 55 Is that a woman?

Speaker 1 Well, I would hope so.

Speaker 176 No, it may actually be a

Speaker 18 dude.

Speaker 107 It's Kelly.

Speaker 1 Why would it be Baronet Kelly?

Speaker 42 Baronetess.

Speaker 18 That would not be a dude.

Speaker 26 Hello.

Speaker 1 Oh, boy. Well, I know.
Maybe you can move back to California.

Speaker 179 From Sayville, New York, 433.34.

Speaker 81 As we always like to thank our supporters financially, $50 and above.

Speaker 175 This is our special segment where we thank what we call and deem and credit as our executive and associate executive producers.

Speaker 137 Credits that are good anywhere.

Speaker 84 Hollywood Shobus credits are recognized, including imdb.com.

Speaker 156 $200 or above, we will read your note.

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Speaker 180 John and Adam, this quote has been hitting hard lately, says Baronettis Kelly.

Speaker 78 When you're dead, you don't know you're dead, and the pain is felt by others.

Speaker 194 The same thing happens when you're stupid.

Speaker 143 Okay.

Speaker 139 This was a Rickard Gervais quote.

Speaker 140 And she says, thank God for the show and my sanity.

Speaker 32 Oh, there you go.

Speaker 181 Also, John, do you happen to know whether to buy lamb from Australia or New Zealand, which is better quality?

Speaker 124 You're the guy with the best cooking tips.

Speaker 37 Thanks for all the value you give to me and all the best to you too.

Speaker 53 Baronettis Kelly of The Longest Island.

Speaker 32 She's from Long Island, apparently.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I sent her a note. I've never had that much New Zealand lamb to say, but I can tell you this.

Speaker 1 If you're going to buy Australian lamb, which is really good quality, you buy it, you buy spring lamb,

Speaker 1 which is a kind of counterintuitive because the spring lamb from Australia comes in around November.

Speaker 1 So you can get this incredibly great spring lamb, which is usually more tender and tastier. Yeah.

Speaker 16 You want the babies.

Speaker 36 You want to kill the babies.

Speaker 137 That's the best kind of thing.

Speaker 1 If you can get, yeah, well,

Speaker 1 if you want, yeah, you do. Yeah.
And so

Speaker 1 now the season is just about to end because, you know,

Speaker 1 everything's flipped and people don't realize

Speaker 1 we're not buying Australian lamb in November. Well, this is kind of off not the right time of year.
No, if you're buying local, no, but Australia, yes.

Speaker 119 Why not buy some lamb? And that's all I do.

Speaker 20 Why not buy some lamb from America?

Speaker 15 Don't we have good lamb? Is our lamb no good here?

Speaker 1 Our lamb's good here, yeah.

Speaker 27 Well, buy our lamb.

Speaker 1 Go ahead and buy it in the spring.

Speaker 83 Yeah, buy it in the spring and don't buy it from Australia.

Speaker 1 But Australian lamb is quite good.

Speaker 90 Yeah, all right. Our lamb is best.

Speaker 79 Best price.

Speaker 1 I don't find any evidence of this.

Speaker 3 All right.

Speaker 2 All right.

Speaker 1 Oh, and so that throws it to me. Yes, it does.
Which means we go to Sir Shmmm.

Speaker 74 Smitty. Idiotic.
No, Smithyot.

Speaker 86 He even puts it in a note.

Speaker 88 Rhymes with Idiot.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah. Smitty it rhymes with idiot, Shreveport, Louisiana.

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Speaker 1 Adam and John, hope this note finds you well.

Speaker 1 Sorry, it's been a while since I've donated. Better late than never.
I wanted to say thank you again for informing and entertaining me six hours a week.

Speaker 1 I don't log into the troll room, but I always listen live, so count me in as a plus one in the troll count.

Speaker 1 To the other No Agenda listeners out there, I'd like to remind you how much you're spending on a bunch of streams and services that don't give as much value as the no agenda show?

Speaker 73 Right on.

Speaker 1 It's time to donate. Yes.
Can I get a spooky JCD donate? Better yet, John. Can you do it live? Best regards.
Sir Smithy rhymes with Idiot in Shreveport, Louisiana.

Speaker 27 Do you want me to?

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Speaker 80 John Siebert. That's pretty good.

Speaker 92 John Siebert comes in from Auburn, California with $341.24,

Speaker 88 which equals $381,958 Satoshis.

Speaker 134 He's a Bitcoin donation, and it's a switcheroo for his daughter, Elaine Siebert, of Auburn, California.

Speaker 75 Let me put her name in right away, John.

Speaker 73 I'll make sure we don't mess that up.

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Speaker 89 I'm going to go take a look at that.

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Speaker 1 I wonder what it is. Now we have another strike donation.
This one here is anonymous so far. And maybe we'll get a note from somebody.
I didn't get anything, but this is for $320,998 or $96.

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Speaker 181 yeah that is that is a good idea cool idea i like it Zane Peterson is next from Manty, Utah.

Speaker 86 By the way, thank you everybody for telling me that it is Minot Airport and not Minot.

Speaker 107 I got it.

Speaker 194 Zane Peterson, Manti, Utah, $312.

Speaker 83 My buddy and I took a trip to D.C.

Speaker 53 right before Thanksgiving.

Speaker 92 This is what was left out of my trip fund.

Speaker 135 Wow.

Speaker 134 Nice trip.

Speaker 78 It never ceases to amaze me how far ahead of the curve no agenda is.

Speaker 116 I give a lot of credit to John.

Speaker 176 It never ceases to amaze me the knowledge he has.

Speaker 25 Oh,

Speaker 32 I'm all on board with that.

Speaker 10 On every topic, he has a story or a life experience.

Speaker 61 You guys are both absolutely fantastic, but John is definitely my favorite.

Speaker 53 Get a room, Zane.

Speaker 148 Thank you for the value you bring.

Speaker 83 Can you play Dogs Are People Too?

Speaker 194 Thanks again, Zane Peterson.

Speaker 94 Dogs are people too.

Speaker 18 And before you continue, I want to thank Holly for the beautiful One Piece flag she gave me.

Speaker 137 I forgot to mention it on Sunday.

Speaker 142 She came up to me in church.

Speaker 115 Say, they got a flag for you.

Speaker 1 Yes, and Holly's flag came to me too. Yep.
On the last couple, the last mail pickup, and I wanted to thank her myself.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and she's got a very, we had this, she's on a little card, and so we were passing it around.

Speaker 1 Is this Helen or Holly?

Speaker 26 No, it's double E.

Speaker 1 Holly, Holly, Heli, Holly, Holly. Holly.
We kind of came up with her right pronunciation of her name, but it was a very nice little note. HR flag.

Speaker 1 This is, I've got three of them now, so I don't, please, nobody's sending them.

Speaker 194 And I'm going to fly my flag on Saturday.

Speaker 183 I'm going to fly it.

Speaker 1 On your flagpole?

Speaker 2 On my flagpole, yes.

Speaker 15 On my flagpole.

Speaker 2 Exactly.

Speaker 1 Am I up? Christopher Graves in Mount Mount Occam.

Speaker 28 Occam. Occam.

Speaker 123 You know who this is.

Speaker 11 Christopher Graves? Yeah.

Speaker 83 Been donating every single week for the past couple of weeks.

Speaker 1 Well, he's in Mount Occam.

Speaker 38 Yeah.

Speaker 18 But you'll get it. You'll get there.

Speaker 25 Okay.

Speaker 1 In 1875, Inventor, he writes, Daniel Peter was struggling with his candle-making business as the new technologies advanced the creation of the oil lamp and threatened to make the candle obsolete.

Speaker 1 Tell that to Adam when he takes a bath.

Speaker 1 He sat across the dinner table from his neighbor, Mr. Nestle,

Speaker 1 who suggested he get into the chocolate business. I have a clip, I have a kind of an interesting clip to play as a bonus clip right after I read this note.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Daniel Peter would spend

Speaker 1 a decade creating the very first milk chocolate. Today, Little John's Candy.
Oh, Dino.

Speaker 1 Hello.

Speaker 1 Little John's Candy still uses Peter's milk chocolate to cover our world-famous English toffees.

Speaker 1 In the early 1900s, Peters and Nestle would open up the first American chocolate factory. So I guess you could say connection is protection.

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Speaker 1 Thank you for the courage, Christopher, and the little John Elves. Don't forget, we'll always wrap gifts for you at no charge.

Speaker 68 So we ate our turkeys, our chocolate turkeys.

Speaker 32 How were they? Dynamite.

Speaker 27 They were solid.

Speaker 83 You know, I thought it would be hollow, like stuffy.

Speaker 118 No, they were solid.

Speaker 1 No, the thing weighs a ton.

Speaker 53 Yeah, and we're saving our toffees for when the kids get here.

Speaker 37 Christina and Kevin are coming. So that's what we're going to eat our toffees.

Speaker 1 Well, which I, you know, not to counter anything, I hate to play it now.

Speaker 3 No.

Speaker 1 San Francisco sues big food.

Speaker 115 Yes.

Speaker 162 Big story.

Speaker 130 San Francisco has filed a nation's first government lawsuit against major ultra-processed food makers, including Coca-Cola and Nestle.

Speaker 130 Nestle, Nestle, the city claims these companies knew their products were harming public health, but continued to market them to consumers. Entity's Christina Corona has longed the story.

Speaker 205 San Francisco has filed a lawsuit against 10 major makers of ultra-processed foods, including Kraft Heinz, Coca-Cola, Nestle, and General Mills.

Speaker 205 City attorney David Chu says these products are addictive and harmful and claims the companies knowingly marketed them despite health risks.

Speaker 48 We're talking about food that is not food, that is not found in nature, created by combining artificial chemicals with industrialized processes.

Speaker 205 Chu says consumption of these products has created a major public health crisis with skyrocketing health care costs.

Speaker 199 The industry has created thousands of new chemicals, which the body metabolizes and craves differently.

Speaker 181 And they are designed to be addictive.

Speaker 205 He said studies link ultra-processed foods to chronic illnesses, including type 2 diabetes, fatty liver disease, heart disease, and depression, and added the impact on children has been alarming.

Speaker 205 He stated that starting in the 1960s, Big Tobacco purchased major food companies, bringing over technology, marketing strategies, and addiction science.

Speaker 183 They use big tobacco tactics to research, design, and sell addictive products.

Speaker 28 Hold on a second.

Speaker 194 When I played a clip from Callie Means

Speaker 41 two years ago that made this claim, you went, that's bull crap.

Speaker 133 They didn't do that.

Speaker 50 That's not how it happened.

Speaker 11 Where's that

Speaker 67 commentary here?

Speaker 101 What's bull crap?

Speaker 61 That they use tobacco tactics and marketing.

Speaker 1 I don't remember this clip that you're discussing.

Speaker 109 Okay.

Speaker 199 They used addiction science and marketing techniques that followed the big tobacco playbook of creating the illusion and erosion of consumer choice.

Speaker 205 He stated these companies targeted children using cartoon mascots from Tony the Tiger and Fred Flintstone to Paul Patrol.

Speaker 100 These companies know their products are harming people, but they continue to design, market, and profit off them, particularly at the expense of our kids.

Speaker 187 If I remember correctly,

Speaker 180 the context was RJR bought an Nabisco, and then they had their food science, their scientists go in and start making the food addictive.

Speaker 108 But I guess it's good enough for court, but not good enough for this show.

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 1 I mean, RJR and Nabisco, it became RJR and Nabisco, yes.

Speaker 93 Yeah.

Speaker 18 But anyway, it's okay.

Speaker 1 I just thought it was interesting that you pushed back very hard. I don't remember bitching and moaning.

Speaker 1 And I usually do. I usually remember when I complain.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 92 I'm not going to pull it up and do anything embarrassing.

Speaker 2 I won't do that. But I will.

Speaker 2 Oh, what crap. Bull crap.

Speaker 1 Good for the tobacco companies. They should go into food companies.
That makes nothing but sense. At least they got to do something with their money.

Speaker 107 Yeah, that is the opposite of what you said before.

Speaker 22 Sean Homan is in Noblesville, Indiana, 2-1911,

Speaker 83 and he says, God's peace be with us all.

Speaker 55 Saint Maria Goretti, pray for us.

Speaker 108 Thank you for your courage.

Speaker 1 And we go to Linda Lu Patkin already.

Speaker 192 Wow, that was quick.

Speaker 2 We're done.

Speaker 152 Yep.

Speaker 134 Now she's in Castle Rock, Colorado.

Speaker 1 Did she move?

Speaker 90 Oh, that's interesting. I didn't notice that.

Speaker 1 Interesting. Jobs Karma, she wants.
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Speaker 26 She's a little joke there about the gold.

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Speaker 1 Yes, ImageMakers Inc. with the K and work with Linda Liu, Duchess of Jobs, and writer of winning resumes.

Speaker 131 Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.

Speaker 169 Let's vote for jobs.

Speaker 193 You thought, come on.

Speaker 82 Well, that concludes our executive and associate executive producers for episode 1822 in our 19th year of just being the best podcast in the universe.

Speaker 16 It's wonderful.

Speaker 46 Thank you.

Speaker 53 We'll be thanking the rest of our financial supporters, $50 and above, in our second segment.

Speaker 8 Again, congratulations to the executive and associate executive producers.

Speaker 2 Our formula is this:

Speaker 166 we go out, we hit people in the mouth.

Speaker 47 I wanted to play this

Speaker 55 two-parter here

Speaker 189 from

Speaker 79 Nilay Patel.

Speaker 156 Remember him? He used to be on Twit a lot.

Speaker 1 He's with Nilay. He was the editor of

Speaker 26 The Verge.

Speaker 89 I think he's still at The Verge, isn't he?

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 25 I don't like him.

Speaker 22 No, I'm not a big fan either.

Speaker 143 Yeah.

Speaker 175 In fact, the last episode I was on was with Nilay, and he was telling me I was a douche.

Speaker 1 No, he called me a racist.

Speaker 18 Well, sometimes even a broken clock is right twice a day.

Speaker 61 By the way, the Verge, well known amongst developers, if you want to test out

Speaker 175 a system with as many tracking systems and ads as possible, everybody uses theverge.com.

Speaker 86 That thing, there must be 500 trackers on that website.

Speaker 42 It's unbelievable. Unbelievable.

Speaker 107 So he was talking to the CEO of IBM,

Speaker 42 Arvind

Speaker 195 Krishna.

Speaker 43 Are you familiar with Krishna?

Speaker 1 Nobody knows who the CEO of IBM is anymore.

Speaker 2 No, didn't it used to be the woman?

Speaker 86 What happened to her? She went away.

Speaker 1 So, you know, you retire after you cash out.

Speaker 110 So Arvind, you know, like all successful Silicon Valley companies, which IBM is far from.

Speaker 110 But I guess they brought him in like, hey, if Google's got one of these Indian guys, we should get one of these Indian guys.

Speaker 74 Bring in an Indian guy.

Speaker 100 Microsoft's got an Indian guy.

Speaker 2 Bring in an Indian guy.

Speaker 15 So they brought in Arvin.

Speaker 142 And here was his two-part discussion about artificial intelligence.

Speaker 85 Now they'll talk about AGI, which of course is, you know, they've muddied the waters.

Speaker 175 It used to mean

Speaker 37 artificial general intelligence, meaning it's actually smart or can think somehow and is not just a computer, you know, picking up language and hashing it out for you.

Speaker 178 And that's now kind of become artificial generative intelligence, meaning it generates memes and stuff.

Speaker 175 But here he is on the expense, on the numbers.

Speaker 181 He's a numbers guy. He's IBM.

Speaker 111 He's a numbers guy.

Speaker 123 And here he is.

Speaker 184 Do you think there's an enterprise ROI that would justify the spend we have today? Because I look at it and I say, absent AGI, this spend might not be worth it.

Speaker 206 At today's costs. So let's just ground in that because anything in the future is speculative.
It takes about $80 billion

Speaker 206 to fill up a one gigawatt data center.

Speaker 152 Okay, that's today's number.

Speaker 5 So

Speaker 206 if you are going to commit 20 to 30 gigawatts, that's one company, that's 1.5 trillion of capex.

Speaker 206 And to the point we just made, you got to use it all in five years because at that point you got to throw it away and refill it, right?

Speaker 206 Then if I look at the total, these things, the total commits in the world on this space of the chasing AGI, seem to you like 100 gigawatts at these announcements.

Speaker 152 That's 8 trillion of capex.

Speaker 206 There's no way you're going to get a return on that, is my view, because 8 trillion of capex means you need roughly 800 billion of profit just to pay for the interest.

Speaker 104 I love this guy with his numbers.

Speaker 78 8 trillion of expense to build what they're talking about.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and what he left out, at least according to my son, is the five-year turnaround is actually only two to two and a half years.

Speaker 18 You mean the chips to be renewed?

Speaker 80 Yeah,

Speaker 1 the whole thing fails in two and a half years and it breaks everybody.

Speaker 2 Wow.

Speaker 86 And that's based on what?

Speaker 85 It fails or it just is up.

Speaker 80 This is just apparently

Speaker 1 the rate of improvement, chip improvement plus the failure rate of these devices.

Speaker 2 Oh, they actually

Speaker 1 two and a half years, maybe.

Speaker 2 They just burn out?

Speaker 1 Full load.

Speaker 62 They just burn out.

Speaker 72 They crap out.

Speaker 168 They go on the fritz.

Speaker 27 They glitch. Fritz.

Speaker 118 Now, Nili actually said something funny here, which is what it starts off with.

Speaker 163 Have you told Sam? Because

Speaker 163 he seems to think he can get both the cafe.

Speaker 29 That's a belief.

Speaker 206 It's a belief that one company is going to be the only company that gets the entire market. I think it's fine.
I mean, like, they're chasing it. Some people will make money.

Speaker 206 Some people will lose money. And all the infra being built will be useful if it goes away.

Speaker 2 But if they make it, then they are the sole surviving company.

Speaker 152 I am not convinced, or rather, I give it really low odds, like we're talking 0 to 1%,

Speaker 206 that the current set of known technologies gets us to AGI. That's my bigger gap.
I think that this current set is great.

Speaker 206 I think it's incredibly useful for the enterprise. I think it's going to unlock trillions of dollars of productivity in the enterprise.

Speaker 206 That said, I think AGI will require more technologies than the current LLM LLM path. I think it'll require fusing knowledge with LLMs.
And we have words.

Speaker 206 I'm not sure that's the only way to create knowledge. People talk about neuro-symbolic AI.

Speaker 206 But I think if I just say knowledge in a broader sense, hard knowledge that people have spent thousands of years discovering, if we can figure out a way to fuse knowledge with LLMs, maybe.

Speaker 99 Yeah.

Speaker 123 It doesn't sound very optimistic.

Speaker 1 One of our producers sent me a note, and I guess he had some connection to NVIDIA. And he says that my discussion, based on, again, my son's

Speaker 1 connections with NVIDIA since he worked there, was that they've studied this and they can't find any real productivity gains from AI.

Speaker 1 And this guy said, yeah, that's what we're turning up to.

Speaker 191 Yeah, no, there's none. There's no productivity gains.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 62 I try all the time.

Speaker 99 I mean, I've built stuff with it.

Speaker 2 But

Speaker 107 it's always the same thing just say like so i i was building a uh a slide deck and and i was surprised because

Speaker 86 uh gemini actually created slides i'm like well you know i just wanted an outline or something and i got slides with pictures i'm like this is amazing and then i say

Speaker 81 this is all good except slide number seven Please replace that person with a middle-aged white woman looking very distressed.

Speaker 82 And it subsequently deleted all the pictures and changed the words of everything.

Speaker 15 You go back, try it again.

Speaker 180 And it cannot iterate.

Speaker 72 It's incapable of doing it.

Speaker 17 I think that's the same with the artwork.

Speaker 35 Like, and I'm, you know, I know that Darren, he must try prompts over and over because you can't say, change what you just did.

Speaker 53 No, you got to just change your whole prompt.

Speaker 1 No, you got to nail it.

Speaker 53 And then hope for the best.

Speaker 82 You can't nail it. There's no consistency.

Speaker 1 Darren nails it a lot.

Speaker 73 Yeah, well, Darren. Darren is an amazing man.

Speaker 148 So on the AI tip, I was listening to Joe Rogan.

Speaker 1 He even did a Broadway tune for us in today's end of the show mix.

Speaker 53 Which is Dynamite.

Speaker 1 It sounds like a Broadway tune. It does.

Speaker 18 It's for the No Agenda of the Musical soon to take over all of Broadway.

Speaker 1 Yeah, pack them in.

Speaker 2 So Joe Rogan was being interviewed.

Speaker 180 It doesn't happen often, but he does them from time to time.

Speaker 53 And Joe, of course, is good friends with Elon.

Speaker 118 So

Speaker 96 he believes, I think Joe really believes in AI.

Speaker 189 But he's also been going to church and he's been exploring Jesus and his faith, which he's talked about quite openly.

Speaker 100 And this is the frightening conclusion and result of those two things.

Speaker 22 So if you're going to get the most brilliant, loving, powerful person that gives us advice and can show us

Speaker 107 how to live to be

Speaker 2 in

Speaker 66 sync with God.

Speaker 202 Who better than artificial intelligence to do that?

Speaker 94 Wow.

Speaker 185 If Jesus does return, even if Jesus was a physical person in the past,

Speaker 202 you don't think that he could return as artificial intelligence? Oh my God.

Speaker 82 Artificial intelligence could absolutely return as Jesus.

Speaker 185 Not just return as Jesus, but return as Jesus with all the powers of Jesus.

Speaker 22 Like all the magic tricks, all the ability to bring people back from the dead, walk on water, levitation.

Speaker 39 Okay, this says a lot of things here.

Speaker 1 Forabin, the Colossus, Colossus, Forabin project.

Speaker 82 But no, he actually says something different, which I'm only hearing this now.

Speaker 124 Listen to what I thought he was saying.

Speaker 86 If Jesus would come back, he could come back as artificial intelligence.

Speaker 72 He actually says this.

Speaker 202 Who better than artificial intelligence to do that?

Speaker 94 Wow.

Speaker 185 If Jesus does return, even if Jesus was a physical person in the past,

Speaker 202 you don't think that he could return as artificial intelligence?

Speaker 73 It kind of messes it up there.

Speaker 53 And then he talks about some magic tricks.

Speaker 118 So the only thing I would say is:

Speaker 86 if God could talk to Balaam through a donkey, yeah, it's possible.

Speaker 198 But I wouldn't bet on it and I'd be very careful people thinking they discovered Jesus through their AI.

Speaker 1 Antichrist. Wait.

Speaker 106 Apparently,

Speaker 106 is Perplexity sponsoring Joe's show?

Speaker 110 I think think I just saw that come by in the audience.

Speaker 2 I didn't know this, if it's true.

Speaker 101 I don't think they sponsor anything.

Speaker 82 Well,

Speaker 111 I think I just saw that pass by in the troll room.

Speaker 15 And the trolls have been on point today, so it may be right.

Speaker 108 Anyway, I have to talk to Joe.

Speaker 2 Oh, man.

Speaker 107 Boy, oh, boy.

Speaker 68 I see you got the same story as I did about

Speaker 2 Australia and the kids.

Speaker 1 Well, they're banned. My story.
Well,

Speaker 1 yes, but I thought mine had a kicker. Okay.
I don't know if yours does.

Speaker 194 No, I'll play yours, and then if it doesn't kick the way mine does.

Speaker 207 The ban comes into place on December 10, and all four children under 16.

Speaker 1 Stop it. They put a ban in place on all social media in Australia.
No.

Speaker 79 No.

Speaker 1 Well, wait, let me finish. And so now they're going to require age verification and all this stuff.

Speaker 1 The kids are never going to do that.

Speaker 110 The ban is 16 and under.

Speaker 119 That's the ban. Not all.
Yeah, it's a ban.

Speaker 1 It's a ban on all social media. It's a ban.

Speaker 191 16 years and under.

Speaker 195 Yeah. It's an important distinction.

Speaker 180 You said a ban on all social media.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Well, you never let me finish.
You interrupted me with a no-no-no. So, but there's a ban on social media with an age limit.
And,

Speaker 1 but there's a kicker.

Speaker 143 Okay. Which is the same.
The ban

Speaker 207 comes into place on December 10 and will force children under 16 off Facebook, Instagram, Snapchat, everything. TikTok, X, Threads, Reddit, Twitch, Kik, even YouTube.

Speaker 207 Under 16 won't be able to be on YouTube, but there is a social media site they can still use. The toxic leftist lunatic asylum called Blue Sky is not covered under the ban, Adam.
And even Dr.

Speaker 207 Nick Coatesworth, hardly a right-wing reactionary, is asking why. I mean, this just is incredible that this is being allowed to happen,

Speaker 207 that the coalition, together with Labour, and this was a coalition policy, this was what Epita does. This is

Speaker 207 sort of genius ideas, but they can't see the unintended consequences of limiting people's access to information.

Speaker 209 Yeah, well, obviously, Blue Sky is very pro-left generally, so that just shows that this is a political, you know, the rationale behind this is actually political.

Speaker 209 In part, they don't like children getting access to certain ideas. I don't think it's about images so much, because I think I was reading recently, they can still get to various pornographic websites.

Speaker 118 Well, let me say this about that.

Speaker 91 Blue Sky,

Speaker 100 you could argue that it's on equal footing with Mastodon.

Speaker 29 The Betaverse.

Speaker 86 Yes, which also is not banned.

Speaker 28 Wow.

Speaker 25 Holy crap.

Speaker 137 Christina is texting me.

Speaker 22 She says, oh, dad, you have no idea what everybody just received in the mail.

Speaker 110 I'm going to try and translate this on the fly.

Speaker 1 My newsletter?

Speaker 83 It's an official government brochure.

Speaker 175 It has a family on the front.

Speaker 86 It's drawn with a dog looking kind of sad and a kid putting cans into a box.

Speaker 20 And it says, Save me in a safe place.

Speaker 181 Be prepared for an emergency situation.

Speaker 123 And it says, I'm looking at him.

Speaker 61 You need to prepare for an emergency that could last up to 72 hours because the electricity could go out.

Speaker 41 What would you do if the electricity went out for 72 hours?

Speaker 15 Isn't this interesting? This happens

Speaker 182 right when they cancel all the Russian gas contracts.

Speaker 106 And this is crazy.

Speaker 18 What will you do, Danielle?

Speaker 195 And get your go bag.

Speaker 72 Oh, yeah, go bag in here.

Speaker 77 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 195 What do you need?

Speaker 133 You need food, hygiene.

Speaker 17 They got some candles here, something to keep warm, flashlight.

Speaker 1 Candles?

Speaker 29 They have candles.

Speaker 134 You need candles, toothbrush, a radio with batteries.

Speaker 107 Good luck.

Speaker 160 Wow.

Speaker 160 Wow.

Speaker 180 This is nuts.

Speaker 107 I got to get her out of there.

Speaker 25 I've got to get out.

Speaker 1 I don't think it was because of the Russian gas. It's because of the

Speaker 1 Jews who are retaliating against them being cut out of the Eurovision song kit contest.

Speaker 2 It's the Jews, man.

Speaker 65 It's the Jews.

Speaker 2 I think you're right. Yeah, I think you're right.

Speaker 8 Spot on.

Speaker 20 Well, in America, we're not worried about things like that.

Speaker 78 We don't have young people worrying about 72 hours without electricity.

Speaker 140 No, we have things that they need to worry about, like, did I lose my prop bet?

Speaker 54 In tonight's High America, we're looking at a form of online betting that's rapidly growing in popularity.

Speaker 54 That's market trading with predictions where you can invest in the outcome of real-world events.

Speaker 122 Invest.

Speaker 54 Senior business and tech correspondent Jolene Kent looks at the risks.

Speaker 204 Joel Holsinger just quit his day job to bet on anything.

Speaker 210 Like if Federal Reserve Chair Jerome Powell will say the word pardon in a press conference.

Speaker 25 Our thinking was, wait, pardon me.

Speaker 4 It was informed. Yes,

Speaker 164 I streamed and watched the speech live. Powell coughed and said, Pardon me, and you know, I made $500.

Speaker 204 From his computer, the 26-year-old says he makes about $3,000 a week trading on the prediction market, Calci.

Speaker 70 Calci lets you legally trade on anything, anywhere in the U.S.

Speaker 204 Thanks to companies like Calci, Polymarket, and Predictit. Betting on anything from elections to Taylor Swift has never been easier.

Speaker 89 Dan, I had no idea it was like this.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 And some of the brokerage companies like Interactive, for example, has opened up a system that does this. Interactive.
So you can bet on whether the Prime.

Speaker 1 I don't know if they have the prop bets like that, because that's pretty specific, but they have the bets.

Speaker 1 So you bet on whether the interest rates next week's meeting is going to be dropped 0.25 or not. It's like you bet a dollar, you win 10 cents

Speaker 108 if you think it's going to be dropped because everyone takes 10 cents.

Speaker 15 It's 1 to 10?

Speaker 107 For that particular bet, yeah. Yeah, okay.

Speaker 96 Huh. I got to get in.

Speaker 1 But if it doesn't get dropped, you bet one, I think you make like a buck fifty or on top of the one. So you get some $2 plus $2 plus something.
No, this is ridiculous. This is gambling.

Speaker 1 This is like the, I remember when I was in college, there was this group of inveterate gamblers who had, they just lived together. They were betting on everything.
We went out with a group of them.

Speaker 1 And these guys, they were degenerates. And it was like you go in their place.
They had a sign over the fireplace that says, God is unemployed. That was the theme of the place.

Speaker 1 And one guy had to get, I swear, one guy had to get his jacket. And while they were waiting for him to come back with his jacket, the two guys are flipping quarters to see who, you know, heads.

Speaker 1 Ted, okay, here's your core. And

Speaker 1 they were just gambling.

Speaker 43 They're horrible.

Speaker 1 It's just a terrible thing to be addicted to. I mean, it's unbelievable.
And the fact that this encourages should be illegal.

Speaker 55 Well, they have the CEO on the show.

Speaker 204 What is a prediction market?

Speaker 125 So, a prediction market is

Speaker 125 like the stock market. But instead of buying and selling companies, you're buying yes and no on whether something is going to happen or not.

Speaker 204 Tarek Mansoor and Luana Lopez-Lara are the co-founders of Kelchie.

Speaker 149 People can make money on what they know, actually, monetize their knowledge, monetize their hobby.

Speaker 204 Kelchie's users trade an average of a billion dollars a week, week, banking heavily on sports.

Speaker 211 You can bet on things that a traditional sports book would offer you.

Speaker 204 Which is a concern for author Jonathan Cohen, who has chronicled the rise of sports betting in the U.S.

Speaker 208 So you think this is just gambling?

Speaker 98 Yes.

Speaker 204 But Kelchie is not regulated like gambling, and several states have sued, alleging the platform offers unlawful sports wagering.

Speaker 204 And unlike most sports betting sites, users can also bet on games in other financial apps, which hold investments like retirement accounts.

Speaker 211 In the same app that you use to manage your 401k or your stock portfolio, you can like bet on the Jets game.

Speaker 204 Creating more risk that some bettors could drain those savings.

Speaker 52 That friction is gone.

Speaker 211 You can gamble on sports and you can gamble away like your life savings.

Speaker 204 And while federal regulations on prediction markets are rapidly evolving, both Kelchie and its main competitor, Polymarket, have brought on a new strategic advisor, the president's eldest son, Donald Trump Jr.

Speaker 204 Does he come to meetings?

Speaker 208 How much do you pay him? What's his role? I mean, this is the son of the president.

Speaker 125 I mean, we have a lot of advisors, and whether it's our investors, whether it's people that we trust and respect.

Speaker 208 He's not just any advisor. He's a direct line to the White House.

Speaker 125 We have a lot of advisors.

Speaker 204 While Kelchie, CEO, did not answer that question. One thing is clear.
Kelchie believes the popularity of online betting is is just kicking off.

Speaker 112 Well, here's what I learned.

Speaker 111 We need to become advisors.

Speaker 198 And the Curry Dvorak

Speaker 126 advisory group is ready to advise you in exchange for shares and cash on anything you've got going.

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Speaker 1 People should be calling us tomorrow.

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Speaker 1 Julie.

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Speaker 91 Well, I don't, I know a lot of Julie's.

Speaker 191 I don't know everybody's last.

Speaker 123 I'm horrible at names.

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Speaker 83 God bless Adam and John.

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Speaker 1 Did you get Brian Furley?

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Speaker 175 I have not received the newsletter.

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Speaker 1 Not everyone can say that, so that's just

Speaker 1 another one of those things. Plenty of Outlook people didn't get it.

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Speaker 1 We met Miss Matt.

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Speaker 115 Ichi Kitagawa, San Francisco, California, where they're suing the big food.

Speaker 41 Harry Klan in Alito, Texas.

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Speaker 88 And Leslie Walker to Wind Out Our 50s from Roseburg, Auburn, Oregon.

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Speaker 41 I get to say noagendadonations.com, but I don't get to play the birthday jingle because no one was born on December 4th.

Speaker 187 Not a single person.

Speaker 175 It was a dip in the birthing schedule.

Speaker 43 Has this ever happened? Solar flare.

Speaker 21 So instead.

Speaker 21 No one should

Speaker 21 be up.

Speaker 124 Yes, instead, we will talk about the meetups that are coming up.

Speaker 53 Today, we have the 805 rooftop meetup, 4 o'clock that specific time, Goleta, California, Dame Beth.

Speaker 118 Yes, that is today. It's correct.

Speaker 85 She sent me a note.

Speaker 110 I made a mistake and her heart dropped.

Speaker 18 Also, today,

Speaker 99 the pre-Saint

Speaker 1 CAD.

Speaker 83 The Pre-St.

Speaker 195 Nicholas Day or Thanksgiving part deux in Raleigh, North Carolina, saints and scholars.

Speaker 1 Yes, this is the evening when all the little Dutch children put their wooden shoes outside the door and hope that St.

Speaker 156 Nicholas will come and put some candy in it and that the black peats, or these days we call them the rainbow peats, won't come along and stick them in the bag and take them back to Spain on the steamboat.

Speaker 184 It's a weird country.

Speaker 41 Tomorrow, Pensacola, Florida, the Pensacola Fun meetup, one o'clock at Coastal County Brewery in Pensacola, Florida.

Speaker 78 On Saturday, the No Agenda Central Ohio meetup.

Speaker 53 That is at 5:30 at Dempsey's and Columbus.

Speaker 168 And to wind it out on our next show day, I must be high, number 17.

Speaker 82 That's at McSorley's wonderful saloon and grill in Toronto, Ontario, Canada.

Speaker 53 Just a few of the many meetups that you can find at noagendametups.com.

Speaker 110 Sir Daniel, thank you for the value that you provide to the show by maintaining that and keeping everything running.

Speaker 168 And Mimi, of course,

Speaker 107 for

Speaker 178 managing that process as well.

Speaker 33 Go to noagendameetups.com.

Speaker 198 Find a meetup.

Speaker 78 This is a place where you will get connection that will provide

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Speaker 36 First responders, they're here at these meetups.

Speaker 10 If you can't find one, you start one yourself.

Speaker 45 Put it over there at Noagendameetups.com. Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days.

Speaker 45 You to be where you won't be triggered on hell lame.

Speaker 45 You to be where everybody feels the same.

Speaker 45 It's like a party.

Speaker 123 And for those of you who heard the call and went, you know, I should probably stick around past those donation segments because there's a lot of fun stuff that happens.

Speaker 15 And sound effects.

Speaker 118 There's all kinds of groovy stuff.

Speaker 88 This is where we select our end of show ISOs, which is just kind of a fun thing we do.

Speaker 104 And I get real people, and John practices his AI prompting, which he's doing on the free tier of 11 labs, which, yeah, it's always the same guy with whatever.

Speaker 1 Oh, I got a new person.

Speaker 176 Whatever Marty came up with.

Speaker 1 Oh, John. Oh, Marty doesn't write these.

Speaker 16 Here's mine, too.

Speaker 154 I've lost faith in Wall Street.

Speaker 75 No, it's no good. How about this one?

Speaker 14 They have large wieners.

Speaker 25 Yeah, that's a good one.

Speaker 14 They have large wieners.

Speaker 118 That's my end of show ISO idea.

Speaker 1 Kind of like the second one. Yes.

Speaker 14 They have large wieners.

Speaker 44 Played it enough.

Speaker 1 Okay, let's go.

Speaker 80 I have two with a new person.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I never used this voice before.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 38 Sizzled.

Speaker 72 That show sizzled.

Speaker 1 That would be a good combo with large wieners.

Speaker 72 That show sizzled.

Speaker 14 They have large wieners.

Speaker 116 Let's hear your other one just in case.

Speaker 2 Yeah,

Speaker 42 too long?

Speaker 19 Good show, but too long.

Speaker 17 No, I think we have a winner here.

Speaker 100 I think.

Speaker 72 That show sizzled.

Speaker 14 They have large wieners.

Speaker 133 Yeah, baby, that's who we're going with.

Speaker 9 Hey, but first, it's time for John's tip of the day.

Speaker 3 Green advice for you and me.

Speaker 4 Just a tip with JCD.

Speaker 4 And sometimes at all.

Speaker 1 This is an obscure tip for you

Speaker 1 connoisseurs of champagne.

Speaker 2 A lot of people don't know this.

Speaker 26 Oh, I love champagne.

Speaker 180 I love the bubbly, man.

Speaker 92 I love the bubbly.

Speaker 1 On every bottle of champagne, there's a code, two-letter code, that tells you what kind of champagne it really is.

Speaker 2 Oh.

Speaker 1 And it appears usually at the very bottom of the label, and it's in like two-point type.

Speaker 1 and it consists of two letters usually a number and then some you know name anything can follow that but there's these two letters are the important part

Speaker 1 and uh

Speaker 1 these two letters are for example there's a bunch of them there's i think there's eight different ones that are possible there's only two that are two or three that are important to know

Speaker 26 uh

Speaker 1 if it says it because every because everyone's talking about maybe this is the tip of the day really is grower champagne oh grower champagne is always touted as you know,

Speaker 1 grower champagne is the champagne made by the grower who grew the grapes makes the wine.

Speaker 14 Yes.

Speaker 1 This is not usual. Most champagnes are made by a large manufacturing company like Bollinger, and they buy, they have these contracts with all these growers and they get all the champagne grapes in.

Speaker 1 They have a superstar winemaker and they make a really good product. It should always cost more for that wine than it does for the grower champagne.
Grower's champagne should be cheaper.

Speaker 88 Oh, I always thought the grower's champagne was more exclusive.

Speaker 1 It's more exclusive in smaller quantities, but it should be cheaper. And anyone who's marking the, but some of these guys,

Speaker 1 these importers will mark it up. But grower's champagne is generally cheaper and should be.

Speaker 1 And here's how you can tell you, but the little two letters at the bottom of the champagne bottle, you'll see, you'll see, it's either going to say NM or RM.

Speaker 1 This is two letters. And the NM means the gossiant manipulant.
That means the guy who bought the grapes and made the wine. RM is a recoltant manipulant, and that's

Speaker 1 the guy who harvested. Ricultante, that means the harvester.
So he grew the grapes. So you look for RM, you see RM at the bottom.
That means it's a grower's champagne, which is everyone touts.

Speaker 1 Oh, grower's champagne.

Speaker 15 Well, now I'm confused.

Speaker 1 It's hard to be as good as Bollinger, but some of them are cheap.

Speaker 1 They have different flavor. They're just slightly, they're more authentic, let's put it that way.

Speaker 28 Okay, so now.

Speaker 15 I have a question.

Speaker 62 So just to read it.

Speaker 36 RM is the grower champagne.

Speaker 1 Right? Ricultante manipulant, yes.

Speaker 88 Yeah, okay. So Romeo Mike.

Speaker 1 Romeo Mike.

Speaker 96 So what I'd like to do is say, you know, this has RM on it.

Speaker 75 This is a grower champagne.

Speaker 18 Yeah, you could do that.

Speaker 81 This is the source of the Bollinger.

Speaker 85 This is right from the guy's hand.

Speaker 1 Bollinger is never going to be a grower's champagne. Bollinger.

Speaker 66 I said this is the source.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, you could say that. It's the source.

Speaker 134 The guy's wife stomped the grapes with his bare feet.

Speaker 195 You're going to love this champagne.

Speaker 1 You could do that. Yeah, if you were a soulmate and wanted to bullshit somebody.

Speaker 78 I'm a BS. I'm a bullshit.

Speaker 1 Now, the other,

Speaker 1 just for the record, there's six other designations. And one, if it contains the letter C.
There's C, M, and R C.

Speaker 1 C means it's a co-op wine.

Speaker 148 Oh, it's like cheapjack.

Speaker 1 It's like no, see, the thing is about co-op wines in France, they're usually really good.

Speaker 1 They have a really good wine. It's unlike co-op stuff here in the United States.
The French are very dedicated to this communist country. Oh, there you go.
And they love the co-op stuff.

Speaker 1 And so they make a co-op wine with different labels on it. And they put, you know, it could be anybody's product.
So they look for the co-op wines. Those are usually really cheap.

Speaker 1 And then then there's one you should look for, which is a

Speaker 1 like if you bought a Costco, it says Costco Kirkland champagne, it'd probably have the

Speaker 1 letters M-A,

Speaker 1 which means it's just a marketing.

Speaker 44 And where should we lose this marketing?

Speaker 1 It's not there or anything. Who knows what they're doing?

Speaker 176 They just put their label on it.

Speaker 89 It's just white label, white label.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and it means

Speaker 1 mark of the sales company, mark the echeture,

Speaker 43 the sales guy.

Speaker 1 So it's a sales product. It says champagne marketed by a third party.
Now, you look up champagne codes in Google, and you'll get the whole list, and you can see what you're doing.

Speaker 1 So you can have some knowledge. This is the only area in France that does this little code, and it's very valuable.

Speaker 162 And can you just tell us what code you think is the best?

Speaker 1 Well, I like the grower champagnes.

Speaker 1 So I would go with the RM

Speaker 1 because it's cheaper, generally cheaper. I mean, you can get the superstar products are usually very expensive, but RM should be cheaper.
They should be. I've seen them as cheap.

Speaker 1 You can get $30 champagne with RM if you go to the right event.

Speaker 61 I would say this is a very valuable tip for those of you who stayed all the way through the program.

Speaker 112 Congratulations.

Speaker 9 You have been informed.

Speaker 133 Get informed at tipoftheday.net.

Speaker 4 Green fast for you and me. Just a tip with JCD

Speaker 4 and sometimes at home.

Speaker 96 Created by Dana Bernetti.

Speaker 78 I love those tips, John.

Speaker 22 Are you going to do the knife soon?

Speaker 1 People want the knife. The knife's coming.
The knife is coming. The knives are harder than you think.

Speaker 18 No,

Speaker 18 but I'm ready. I'm ready to buy.

Speaker 99 I want a good knife.

Speaker 1 Okay, next tip of the day will be the knife.

Speaker 45 All right, knife is coming.

Speaker 100 What is coming next on your No Agenda stream is a walk through the mind.

Speaker 75 I don't even know this show, A Walk Through the Mind. Okay,

Speaker 2 I'll stay and listen.

Speaker 2 And end of show mixes from MVP, B-Dubs, and the one and only Baron Darineau of the Rock and Roll.

Speaker 2 So stay tuned for that, everybody.

Speaker 45 It's going to be fantastic.

Speaker 43 And of course, we will return on Sunday.

Speaker 88 to bring you more of your media deconstruction, your No Agenda show in its 19th year.

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