1783 - "Dadgum"

Speaker 1 Look what you got there. I see what you're doing.
Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.
It's Sunday, July 20th, 2025. This is your award-winning Keep on Nation Media Assassination Episode 1783.

Speaker 1 This is no agenda.

Speaker 1 Posing for the Kiss Cam and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA, region number six.

Speaker 1 In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry. And from Northern Silicon Valley, we're trying to bring back the term Gaddy O.
I'm John C. Dvorak.
It's Craig Bottom Buzzkill in the morning.

Speaker 1 See, I was going to try and slip it in during the show, but now you've given it away.

Speaker 1 Yep. I thought it was a good idea.
Bring back Daddy-O. Hey, Daddy-O.
Because it's a vibe, man.

Speaker 1 It's a vibe. Also, we got a note from some guy explaining vibe.
Well, it's a vibe. Not just vibe.
It's a vibe. You got to say it right.
It's a vibe. I'm not saying it at all.

Speaker 1 It's interesting, I guess.

Speaker 1 I don't think it has legs. Oh, what do you mean?

Speaker 1 This is all over the place. It's already

Speaker 1 in. I didn't know.
I've never heard it except on the show.

Speaker 1 Well, I don't expect people to say it at Costco.

Speaker 1 You know? Hey, hey, man, that wine, it's a vibe. It's a vibe, man.
That wine's a vibe. I don't say it the Chevron station.
Yeah. Well, hey, how was your meetup? You had the get John

Speaker 1 out of the house meetup. It wasn't as good as it usually is, but it was okay.

Speaker 1 They're generous, at least this group.

Speaker 1 I have the meetup stuff that I'll read during the donation segment. But they were generous, but it wasn't good?

Speaker 1 No, they were generous, but the numbers were like 20 people, maybe. Oh, well, my meetup was exactly six, including me.

Speaker 1 How many? Six.

Speaker 1 Okay, well, this brings us to a point of discussion then. Well, okay, but remind me to tell you about the meetup because it was a special kind of meetup.
So go ahead with your point of discussion.

Speaker 1 A special kind of meetup? Was it some sort of cabal, gay cabal thing, or something like that? Yeah, John, that's exactly right. That makes so much sense.
A gay cabal in Fredericksburg, Texas.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's what's going on. It could be.

Speaker 1 No, this was organized by Avert Bop.

Speaker 1 Oh, this is your Dutch guy. This is the Dutch cabal.
Yes, but you know what this Dutch cabal is?

Speaker 1 So Avert, who spooks. No.

Speaker 1 He has a non-profit called Disaster Tech Lab, disastertechlab.org. And he goes all over the world.
Whenever there's a disaster, he brings in

Speaker 1 Wi-Fi networks.

Speaker 1 So he brings in, he has all this donated gear. And

Speaker 1 of course, he was here for the floods in Kerr County. And he was in Hunt and Center Point.
And he sets up these huge mesh networks so people can communicate.

Speaker 1 That's cool. It's very cool.
And he's been doing it for 15 years. He said, well, it's the first time I've been here.
And since I was just down the road, I figured it might as well do a meetup.

Speaker 1 And Texas Slim came. Texas Slim,

Speaker 1 he was taking $10,000 worth of ground beef down to the Mercy Chefs. to feed all of the volunteers and first responders.
And let's see, we had Richard from Austin. He's a coder.
He came up.

Speaker 1 And of course, we had Willie. Willie,

Speaker 1 my chess partner. He showed up as well.
So Mimi has a friend that's something like this, a woman who goes to disaster zones, and she's a specialist.

Speaker 1 She has a kind of a, I guess, a horde or a group of cadaver dogs. Oh, and boy, we need them.
They only had one dog,

Speaker 1 which is a good one. Yeah, this woman

Speaker 1 should have known about this idea because she'd be down there.

Speaker 1 She has these cadaver dogs, and I guess they're there's like three German shepherds or whatever dog it is, and they just are experts at this.

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, um, Afert was telling us some of some of the horror stories, which I won't repeat, of what people were finding.

Speaker 1 It was not great, yeah, it's gross, yeah, very gross, but it was uh

Speaker 1 it was a nice meetup, and uh, so I said, so, so, you know, what who funds it? He said, well,

Speaker 1 we have individual donors. We have some government support, but not very much.

Speaker 1 He gets all of his gear donated except for one company. So all the Wi-Fi, and he leaves it behind.
So it's donated. He leaves it behind.
He gets new gear. Guess which company?

Speaker 1 doesn't donate and charges full retail price for everything he does.

Speaker 1 Starlink. starlink yes exactly he says hey can i get a discount no best price you pay now starlink

Speaker 1 yeah starlink no deals for the non-profit for the guy for the guy going down there in the disaster area and then he said you know i think starlink's taking a beating on the technology anyway they can't afford to shoot i'm sure they are i'm sure they are and he said you know and i was in he said I said, so what's it like on the ground?

Speaker 1 I said, oh, the government people, they're just in the way. They suck.
And he was, you know, he says, oh, the in Texas. Well, that's a shocker.
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 1 He says, you guys in Texas are well organized. And he even told a story about how he was invited to go to the White House.

Speaker 1 He said, so I walk in, and it's basically a huge Zoom call with all of the regional FEMA managers. And they're all, and they're listening to his story.

Speaker 1 And they go like, yeah, yeah, we really want to hear how we can innovate.

Speaker 1 What can we do to innovate? He's like, well, why don't you deploy the stuff that works today?

Speaker 1 The stuff that I'm doing. Do that.

Speaker 1 And of course, the government bozos.

Speaker 1 I don't want to say they're all

Speaker 1 ended here.

Speaker 1 Well, no, they want to buy stuff. Oh, you got to innovate.
We got to do something. We got to budget.
We got to spend it. Oh, you got to spend the taxpayers' money.
Got to spend the money. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He says it was really disappointing, but he's been all over.

Speaker 1 Very interesting guy. So anyway, that was just a fun meetup.
Now, you wanted to discuss meetups briefly?

Speaker 1 Yeah, Mimi's noticing that there's been a falloff in the number of meetups that people are happening.

Speaker 1 And this meetup, that the Albany meetup was interesting because Steve had taught, I talked to Steve, who's recalcitrant, crazy,

Speaker 1 recalcitrant, crazy, Steve. Recalcitrant Steve.

Speaker 1 And he said there's a bunch of RSVPs that didn't show up. There's a couple of people I expected to see.
They didn't show up.

Speaker 1 It was gloomy, though. I mean, we have a Bay Area.

Speaker 1 July. It was gloomy.
Cold. It was gloomy.
And gloomy.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 but Mimi's noticing that the huge drop-off in meetups.

Speaker 1 Interesting. Next one's on the 25th

Speaker 1 that she had, I think, documents coming up. But is she saying this is across-the-board meetups? Yes.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 Interesting. It's like a worldwide phenomenon.
It's a global thing. Oh, no.

Speaker 1 And I'm thinking that this is, you know, there's a mood.

Speaker 1 Oh, no.

Speaker 1 It's a mood. Okay.
Yes. There's a mood.
But it's a worldwide depression. I'm blaming Trump.
Oh, do tell.

Speaker 1 Well, I don't know why I'm blaming him, but why not?

Speaker 1 Everybody's as good a guy as any to blame for. Stop it.
I mean, you blame the president as the guy who sets some sort of a standard and whatever.

Speaker 1 And I'm not blaming him the way the mightus touch might, but for everything, you know, from the guy who has a bad bowel movement, he blames Trump.

Speaker 1 I mean, that's a terrible podcast.

Speaker 1 It's a great podcast. But

Speaker 1 it's noticeable. Yeah.
Interesting. And that's why your number doesn't surprise me at all.

Speaker 1 I don't care. You're there.
There's enough, you have enough locals. There's

Speaker 1 hold on, hold on. Parker came.
Parker. He's local.
Parker came.

Speaker 1 No, that number should have been 40. No.

Speaker 1 We only had like

Speaker 1 two-show advanced warnings. So, you know, it takes a lot of

Speaker 1 promotion to get people to come out.

Speaker 1 And Richard was a first-timer.

Speaker 1 Relating this to my experience, the lack of

Speaker 1 the people at RCP, Steve, I don't even know why you bothered doing that at the Mallard, but he did that anyway, and they didn't show up. And the people that I expect to see it didn't show up.

Speaker 1 And Mimi's noticeable. Well, she notices a worldwide basis.
Well, there's a couple of things that are happening.

Speaker 1 One is, you know, meetups used to be very sparse. Then it would be like, oh, okay,

Speaker 1 there's a meetup. I'm going to go.
Could it be once every six months or something? Now people are doing them often. So they're repeats.
And, you know, people have other things to do.

Speaker 1 You're going to think what you're going to go toward is meetup fatigue. Burnout.
Meetup fatigue. Meetup fatigue.
I like burnout better. Okay.
So that could be part of it. Also.

Speaker 1 A lot, there's, you know, what is permeating throughout all of culture right now is these meetups, they all put together chat groups.

Speaker 1 Okay, so they have, okay, so they have chat groups, they have telegram channels, and they're all doing all their thing there. And so they really have nothing to discuss when they show up in person.

Speaker 1 And they're a little bit wary because now they know all of these, how these people really think. Because, of course, what is the number one topic on every single no agenda group?

Speaker 1 But Epstein? Yeah, of course. Mossad, blackmail.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Jews.
I mean,

Speaker 1 Jews. Yeah.
So I think people are also just like,

Speaker 1 I don't feel like talking about this stuff anymore.

Speaker 1 Well, I think that's a rationalization. And I'll tell you why I say that.

Speaker 1 It's a good rationalization. And I think it's reasonable.
It reminds me of stock market analysis. You know, this market goes up, it's for this reason.
The market goes down is for the same reason.

Speaker 1 How does that make sense?

Speaker 1 Somebody sent me a video today of this red light district, a long film from this month, the red light district in Thailand. A walkthrough.
Well, wait a minute. Where in Thailand?

Speaker 1 It's a rather big place. I've been to a place.
No, the red light district

Speaker 1 got a name. I can look it up.

Speaker 1 Pat Pong? Pat Pong? Yeah, no, it's not that.

Speaker 1 I'm telling you what it is. Because they have them all over the place.
No, but the big one.

Speaker 1 You can look it up. It's Pat Pong.

Speaker 1 It's Pattaya. Oh, Pattaya.

Speaker 1 But whatever. Pataya is a tourist destination.
Yeah, and it's a red light district. Yeah, okay.
And it's a tourist destination. You're right.
And it's notorious.

Speaker 1 Just Google it. P-A-T-T-A-Y-A.
So this guy took a video and he's walking through the area. There's, I'd say, thousands of hookers.

Speaker 1 And...

Speaker 1 And hundreds and hundreds of nightclubs. I've seen areas like this around the world, and it's just like like loaded with nightclubs and hookers.

Speaker 1 Nobody.

Speaker 1 Oh, it's MC? Nobody's there. Hmm.

Speaker 1 And he's walking. This guy is some British guy, and he's walking through the area.

Speaker 1 It's a long film. It's like, I got it up here.
It's 30 minutes walking around. And there's literally, I mean, there's a few motorcycles go by, you know, motor scooters.

Speaker 1 Now, are these, you know, are these the girls that have the number badges on? They have all kinds of different, some of them hold up signs.

Speaker 1 There's thousands of them. But the point is the point I'm making here is not about the girls or how they sell themselves, but it's the fact that the place was empty.
So hooker meetups are also down.

Speaker 1 So I'm thinking that there's a downturn in,

Speaker 1 you know, there's always these discussions about, you know, people aren't coupling up anymore.

Speaker 1 Oh, no, no, you nailed it. You nailed it.
Everybody's sitting at home on talking to their chat bot.

Speaker 1 They don't have anything left to say. They've already told ChatGPT about it and Annie.

Speaker 1 They're all talked out.

Speaker 1 It's a possibility. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Hmm.

Speaker 1 But it's a worldwide phenomenon.

Speaker 1 So it's happening on our meetups. This is not good.

Speaker 1 Well, it's not like we can do anything about it. Yeah, we can bitch and moan.
That's what we do.

Speaker 1 That doesn't help. Also, people...

Speaker 1 It makes me me feel better people are afraid to go out like you go to a cold play concert and all of a sudden you know you're on the kiss cam and you're divorced the best story of the week you know it's that was really interesting because that dominated social media with memes and apparently well it there's a good reason for it because it it it pointed out the hypocrisy of the hr departments the the lack of uh you know you can't mingle in the office even though some people think it's a good idea but it's against the rules.

Speaker 1 And the basic hypocrisy and then the embarrassment, which would like a lot of almost everybody says the same thing. There was a cold play concert.

Speaker 1 If they hadn't freaked out,

Speaker 1 which is embarrassing enough to go to, but if they hadn't have freaked out.

Speaker 1 Yeah. The girl, by the way, is the one who panicked immediately, and then the guy ditched himself.

Speaker 1 Did you see that some baseball games had a cold play cam and then they focused on No, I didn't go to school. Yeah, yeah, they'd focus in on people, and then they'd immediately dive down and hide.

Speaker 1 You know,

Speaker 1 even the players, they were on the cold play cam, they ran back into the dugout. Oh, that's funny.
It was good.

Speaker 1 I think it's also, you know, we live in such a broken world where everybody either knows what it's like to get caught cheating, is currently cheating, or has thought about cheating.

Speaker 1 I think it was very relatable.

Speaker 1 Well, it was pretty funny. And then to be caught cheating with your HR lady at a Cold Play concert, it's like a triple threat.
It's the worst thing you can imagine.

Speaker 1 You can't beat it.

Speaker 1 It can't get much worse.

Speaker 1 It really was. Really was.

Speaker 1 Well, then we have the story that everybody in M5M, remember, we are a media deconstruction podcast. We have to talk about this because they were losing their ever-loving minds over it.

Speaker 1 And everybody, of course, related it immediately to the president due to a number of

Speaker 1 confluences and things happening with media. And this is the cancellation of the Colbert show.

Speaker 3 Breaking news, CBS is canceling the late show with Stephen Colbert. Colbert just making the shocking announcement that is show taping.
Shocking.

Speaker 3 Now, it's unclear why the show is canceled, but it comes after Colbert spoke out against.

Speaker 1 No, you just got to listen to it because that's the whole point of playing these clips at all.

Speaker 3 Against his parent company, Paramount's $16 million settlement with Trump over the editing of a 60-minutes interview. In fact, here's what Colbert said just a few days ago.

Speaker 8 Now, I believe that this kind of complicated financial settlement with a sitting government official has a technical name in legal circles.

Speaker 1 It's Big Fat Bribe because

Speaker 9 this all comes as Paramount's owners are trying to get the Trump administration to approve the sale of our network to a new owner, Skydance.

Speaker 1 So they bring on their own media deconstructionist, the one and only Brian Selzerwater, to discuss what's really going on.

Speaker 3 And now hearing that that show is canceled, Brian Stelter's out front. I mean, Brian.

Speaker 15 I love the cadence.

Speaker 1 And now, hearing that that show, show is canceled. Oh, no, it's canceled.

Speaker 3 And now, hearing that that show is canceled, Brian Stelter's out front. I mean, Brian.

Speaker 1 What more are you learning

Speaker 5 about what is frankly a stunning announcement?

Speaker 1 I mean, Brian. What?

Speaker 1 She said, I mean Brian. Oh, she did.
What is she said to this?

Speaker 1 Oh, she did that too. And this is a new thing.
Well, this is when they really don't. I think you say, I mean, I mean, Brian.
I mean, I mean, Adam. I mean, like, come on.

Speaker 1 It's like, I mean, like, this is no good.

Speaker 3 Brian Stelter's out front. I mean, Brian.

Speaker 3 What more are you learning about what is frankly a stunning announcement? When we were talking about it, just found out about it here.

Speaker 16 It's outbreak.

Speaker 5 I said, wait, what? Absolutely. What? What just happened?

Speaker 12 It really doesn't make any sense. The normal business logic of television goes like this Stephen Colbert is the highest rated program in late night television.
He beats his competitors.

Speaker 12 He's been going at it for 10 years and frankly he's been on a hot streak lately. So by the business logic of television normally he would be in a very safe spot.

Speaker 12 However, CBS says this is a financial decision given the difficulties with the entire late night sector. And there is some truth to that explanation.

Speaker 12 I reported a couple years ago about the late late show ending with James Corden because it wasn't profitable anymore. So there might be some

Speaker 12 rationale to this CBS announcement, but almost everybody upon hearing about this is connecting it to the Paramount settlement from Tuesday.

Speaker 1 Everybody.

Speaker 12 Because as you said, it was just two weeks ago that President Trump struck a deal with the parent of CBS, that $60 million settlement.

Speaker 12 Of course, Trump later said that there were other terms on top of the $16 million. He referenced getting public service announcements from CBS, for example.

Speaker 12 And all this comes as one owner of CBS, Sherry Redstone, is about to hand off to a new owner, David Ellistone, excuse me, David Ellison, and his company, Skydance Media.

Speaker 12 There had been speculation raging online for the last two weeks about whether Skydance was going to try to push Colbert out.

Speaker 12 In fact, this had been such a hot topic that Colbert came back from vacation on Monday and he made jokes about it.

Speaker 12 He said he had a new mustache and so the new owners wouldn't be able to find him. So on Monday, Colbert was joking about possibly being in danger.

Speaker 12 On Wednesday, he found out his show was being canceled. Today, he announced it.
And this all takes effect next May Aaron. So he does have one more season.

Speaker 12 But this means one of the staunchest Trump critics on television will be leaving.

Speaker 1 And you know, you did the exact same thing that I did. It's like, huh, I wonder.
First of all, we heard 2.1 million people watching,

Speaker 1 200 people on staff.

Speaker 1 And I don't think those are shared resources. You know, you got the studio and everything.
It's every single day.

Speaker 1 And, you know, I did the same thing. I'm like, what's in the demo?

Speaker 1 And the demo is, it was like, I think you had 200,000 in the newsletter. I think I came up with 230,000, 231,000.
I mean, we have more people in the demo on this podcast. Yeah.

Speaker 1 We're losing. Corey, this is it.

Speaker 1 I thought I wrote up a fairly good analysis in the newsletter. People should be a subscriber.
I don't get it that they don't.

Speaker 1 But they mentioned they lost 40, they've been losing $40 million a year

Speaker 1 on this show. There's your issue right there.
And there's your issue. And the numbers suck.
If he gets 2 million viewers, Guttfeld gets at least 3,

Speaker 1 and he only has 60 million households and they have 300 million households. Doesn't make any sense.
Guttfeld's got 30 people. He's got 200.
Even that's too much, 30 people. For that show

Speaker 1 for that show.

Speaker 1 Someone to polish his shoes. I mean, what do you do with 200 people? I have no idea what you do with 200 people.

Speaker 1 And then if you it all traces back to Johnny Carson, I have his numbers. He typically was doing

Speaker 1 17 million a show, up to 45 million a show as opposed to 2 million.

Speaker 1 It's untenable. It's stupid.

Speaker 1 And they're making a big fuss. By the way, I do have Colbert's total.
Yeah, we have that. We got that.

Speaker 1 The whole thing? Yeah. Yeah, I I have the whole thing, but

Speaker 1 I clipped it way down because there was too much hooting and aside. I took the asides out and I took the hoots out.
Okay, can I just say one thing?

Speaker 1 You can say whatever you want. Say two things.
No, I'll just say one thing, if that's okay.

Speaker 1 Late night lost their entire audience during the writer's strike.

Speaker 1 Everybody got on TikTok at night. It was the height of TikTok.
And they never came back. And And why would they?

Speaker 1 It's much more entertaining than to hear him just gripe and moan and watch the, you know, two segments with a film clip. The format is old.
It's beat. You know, the cat.
As I point out in the essay,

Speaker 1 the format was started by Steve Allen in 1954 and has not changed since. That's 70 years.
of the same old, same old. No wonder it's dead.
Yeah, and

Speaker 1 it's all pre-interview questions. So, hey, you had a funny thing happen to you this week.
Tell me about that. The pre-interview questions ruined the show.

Speaker 1 Yes, which is exactly why Adam and John do not talk to each other outside of the show. Yeah, and we wouldn't anyway.
No, for obvious reasons.

Speaker 1 All right, I'll play the whole opening thing then.

Speaker 1 This is Colbert's.

Speaker 1 I think it was Monday he opened with this bitching about this. And I want to point out one other other thing.

Speaker 1 This idea that this was a $16 million deal

Speaker 1 where they caved to Trump's lawsuit

Speaker 1 was part of get Sherry Redstone, her, you know, her Skydance.

Speaker 1 They had to do this to get the Skydance thing to go through because the administration would quash it otherwise. The administration, the Trump administration was never going to quash this.

Speaker 1 This was Larry Ellison's son that runs Skydance. Larry Ellison's a huge Trump supporter.

Speaker 1 If he wants to do a merger with Paramount, the Trump administration is not going to stop it, whether Colbert's there or not.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and I'll give him this, though.

Speaker 1 If you're polishing up the product to sell it, you probably want to get rid of the $40 million a year loss.

Speaker 1 Loser, yeah. It's like, hey, we'll take care of Colbert.
We'll get rid of all the other losing

Speaker 1 We'll take care of you. That's what you do.
Now, here's the opening monologue. Polished up.

Speaker 9 My parent corporation, Paramount, paid Donald Trump a $16 million settlement over his 60 Minutes lawsuit.

Speaker 9 As someone who has always been a proud employee of this network, I am offended. And I don't know if anything will ever repair my trust in this company.

Speaker 9 But just taking a stab at it, I'd say $16 million would help.

Speaker 9 This settlement is for a nuisance lawsuit Trump filed claiming that 16 Minutes deceptively edited their interview with then candidate Kamala Harris last fall.

Speaker 9 Paramount knows they could have easily fought it because in their own words, the lawsuit was completely without merit.

Speaker 9 Unlike the payoffs from ABC and Twitter, Paramount's settlement did not include an apology.

Speaker 9 Instead, that's good. Instead, the corporation released a statement where they said, you may take our money, but you will never take our dignity.

Speaker 9 You may, however, purchase our dignity for the low, low price of $16 million.

Speaker 18 We need the cash.

Speaker 9 Now, I I believe that this kind of complicated financial settlement with a sitting government official has a technical name in legal circles. It's Big Fat Bribe.

Speaker 18 Because

Speaker 9 this all comes as Paramount's owners are trying to get the Trump administration to approve the sale of our network to a new owner. Skydance.

Speaker 9 And some of the TV typers out there are blogging that once Skydance gets CBS, the new owner's desire to please Trump could put pressure on late-night host and frequent Trump critic Stephen Colbert.

Speaker 1 I guarantee you, he already knew it was happening when he did that.

Speaker 1 He already knew 90% certainty that his show was good, that the late-night show, the franchise was going to go away.

Speaker 1 He had nothing to lose.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 maybe not, but like somebody pointed out in one of the other shows, is that if you're mate, you can say whatever you want about the networks because

Speaker 1 Letterman used to go after

Speaker 1 NBC and Carson always made jokes.

Speaker 1 As long as

Speaker 1 you're making tons of money,

Speaker 1 you can say whatever you want. Who cares? Exactly.
But if you're losing 40 million,

Speaker 1 that's a problem.

Speaker 1 So then we get the out at. I actually had one of the.
Oh, by the way, the other number was it's $100 million a year to produce that show. That's a lot of money.

Speaker 1 So there was

Speaker 1 a conversation with the Podcasting 2.0 group.

Speaker 1 That group, we only discuss

Speaker 1 podcasting stuff. And in fact, I discourage it and remind people,

Speaker 1 can you take your political stuff somewhere else? Because the political opinions vary widely. And we get along pretty well.
But then, so one guy, he says,

Speaker 1 he said, you know, he

Speaker 1 posted the notice about, oh, this is insane. It's like Colbert, Trump critic Colbert's show getting canceled.

Speaker 1 And then so the follow-up is, oh, Jon Stewart, another critic of rapist felon Trump.

Speaker 1 Will they silence Kimmel next? And so I pop in. I said, hey, look, look,

Speaker 1 200 people, 2.1 million viewers do the math.

Speaker 1 And then it comes back.

Speaker 1 And then it's like, why are you defending rapist pedophile Trump? I'm like, you know what? I'm out. Why don't you hit me up on the blue sky, bro? And I'll talk to you over there.

Speaker 1 It's like, what is wrong with you?

Speaker 1 Don't you understand basic numbers? And here's Chris Murphy, Democrat representative from Connecticut, on his very important Instagram.

Speaker 19 So I want to tell you why the cancellation of Stephen Colbert's show matters so much.

Speaker 19 We are on the precipice of entering a censorship state in which Donald Trump is using the powers of the federal government in order to erase criticism from the airwaves.

Speaker 19 What's happening at CBS right now is bone-chilling.

Speaker 1 Bone-chilling.

Speaker 19 Air company Paramount is trying to get a merger approved, and they need that merger to be approved by the Trump administration.

Speaker 19 And so, in a variety of different ways, Paramount is providing monetary and political favors to Donald Trump.

Speaker 19 First, they settled a totally bogus lawsuit that they would have won in a walk in court that was filed against them by Trump. They essentially just paid him $16 million personally.

Speaker 19 Then Paramount went to 60 Minutes, their flagship news program, and told them to stop criticizing Donald Trump so much. Why? Because they need this merger approved.

Speaker 1 That's not what they said from what I heard.

Speaker 19 And then finally, they have now canceled Stephen Colbert's show, knowing that Stephen Colbert was a nightly thorn in the side of Donald Trump.

Speaker 19 This is all clearly designed to get their merger approved so that their millionaire and billionaire owners and investors who are already filthy rich can become even more filthy rich.

Speaker 1 Oh, blame it on the rich.

Speaker 19 This is what happens when these massive corporations control the flow of information at the same time that you have an administration that is shameless about using the official powers given to them by the Constitution and by statute in order to compel political loyalty from the owners of those media companies.

Speaker 19 This is a really, really dangerous moment.

Speaker 1 Steven Colbert didn't get thrown off the air because he wasn't doing well.

Speaker 19 He was the highest-rated show on TV in late night. He was canceled, very likely,

Speaker 19 because Paramount and its owners are trying to get rich off of this merger.

Speaker 19 And Donald Trump has made it clear to them and everybody else in the media space that if you want any favors from me, then you have to silence my critics on your platforms.

Speaker 1 So this is what I love so much about it, because

Speaker 1 it folds into the whole PBS-NPR defunding.

Speaker 1 Here's a guy who probably gets more traction from this one post, including 800,000 plus people hearing on the No Agenda show.

Speaker 1 It was like, well, they're controlling the flow of information, man. Oh, really?

Speaker 1 It's like, no, I think CBS was pretty smart to do this now because it came at the right moment where, you know, Trump, man, he wants to shut down in the flow of information to NPR and PBS.

Speaker 6 Relations between Donald Trump and the press have been tense since he first became president.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to give you a question. You are fake news.

Speaker 6 In mandate number two, the U.S. president has multiplied lawsuits against news organizations criticizing their coverage.

Speaker 6 In the latest case, he's opposing Rupert Murdoch and the Wall Street Journal for publishing a story about his friendship with child sex offender and alleged sex trafficker of underage girls, Jeffrey Epstein.

Speaker 6 Trump says the story is fake and deliberately damaging, and gay.

Speaker 1 Publisher is standing by it, refusing to cave in to pressure. Confident of victory.

Speaker 6 In some of the previous cases, news companies chose to settle, like ABC and Paramount, who own CBS. Media watchdog Reporters Without Borders says the U.S.

Speaker 6 president has a clear strategy to weaken the press, similar to ones used in other countries.

Speaker 6 This includes the defunding of public media, smearing journalists, and taking measures against reporters who use words he does not approve of. U.S.

Speaker 6 news agency AP has been banned from White House briefings since they refused to change the name of the Gulf of Mexico.

Speaker 1 At a time where we've never had more media in all of human civilization, where everybody has a podcast, everybody's on TikTok, everybody's on Instagram, where the president

Speaker 1 is being dragged by his own fans of MAGA.

Speaker 1 He's not controlling any flow of information, you dopes.

Speaker 1 But, oh, of course, NPR defunding. What will we do in an emergency in Republican states?

Speaker 21 Public radio and television stations will start to lose some of their funding in October after Congress approved a rare rescissions package requested by President Donald Trump that claws back $1.1 billion previously allocated for public media.

Speaker 21 That sum is all of the federal funding the Corporation for Public Broadcasting was set to receive over the next two years.

Speaker 21 That money is supposed to help fund 1,500 locally owned and operated stations in addition to NPR and PBS. But experts who study the local news landscape caution the move could have dire effects.

Speaker 21 John Franklin runs the local news initiative at the Medill School of Journalism at Northwestern University.

Speaker 21 He says somewhere between 40 and 80 local public radio stations could be forced to shut down across the country, leaving the communities they serve with limited access to critical information.

Speaker 4 We are not going to waver in our mission, which is to deliver independent local journalism that we think is really important for our democracy.

Speaker 21 A gap listeners or sponsors may not be able to bridge.

Speaker 14 This is a huge disruption, and the public media that you knew yesterday will not be the public media that you know tomorrow.

Speaker 1 Good.

Speaker 21 Heather Norman is president of the Illinois Public Broadcasting Council. She says some communities may start to see consolidation with less local coverage.

Speaker 21 And she notes there are families who may not have access to cable or streaming services who depend on the work of public media.

Speaker 14 When we were in Springfield for our legislative day,

Speaker 14 person after person came up to our table and said, My child learned by watching PBS.

Speaker 24 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Now it became a trend.

Speaker 1 So there's never been a better time in history in the past 20 years to start a hyper-local podcast. This hole in the media landscape is so big, you could swing a 747 around in it.

Speaker 1 Well, you need something because all the local newspapers have

Speaker 1 gone. It's all gone.
Or it's tarred. Like we have one paper here, the Fredericksburg Standard Radio Flyer Post Gazette.

Speaker 1 It's all just left, left, left.

Speaker 1 It's no wing. It's no good.

Speaker 1 It's left-wing. If it's even that good, some of them are even left or right-wing.
They're nothing. They don't even do any reporting.

Speaker 1 But there was some good, some text, one of the Texas guys, I didn't get a clip of it going on about this NPR, local, all important it is.

Speaker 1 One of your boys down there said, you know, I was around the area when the flood started to hit, and it was all the local stations that were talking about it.

Speaker 1 NPR was playing some crap from Washington, D.C.

Speaker 1 They played nothing. They gave us no warnings.

Speaker 1 They were just so unlocal, it's ridiculous. And NPR themselves say it was 1% of their budget.
Why is anybody making a fuss about this?

Speaker 1 Because Donald Trump is trying to stop the flow of information that is important to our democracy. Vote Democrats.
The NPR themselves said it's 1%.

Speaker 1 I know.

Speaker 1 Why are you fighting me, bro?

Speaker 1 I'm fighting you, bro. Don't fight me, bro.
That's not the vibe on this show.

Speaker 1 The mood. The mood, yes.

Speaker 1 By the way, since you brought up Larry Ellison, I was shocked and appalled

Speaker 1 by a statement he made. I guess we missed this.
There must have been some kind of conference or some when they launched Stargate and the, what was it, $500 billion we're putting into this thing.

Speaker 1 There is real building going on in West Texas, but I don't know about 500 billion.

Speaker 1 Listen to what Larry Ellison touts as the benefits of AI for our society, which now

Speaker 1 he is partially funding. Listen to this.

Speaker 25 The police will be on their best behavior because

Speaker 25 we're constantly recording, watching, and recording everything that's going on. Citizens will be on their best behavior because we're constantly recording and reporting everything that's going on.

Speaker 25 And

Speaker 25 it's unimpeachable.

Speaker 25 The cars have

Speaker 25 cameras on them.

Speaker 25 I think we have a squad car here someplace.

Speaker 25 But those kind of applications using

Speaker 25 AI, if we can use AI, and we're using AI to monitor the video. So if that altercation had

Speaker 25 occurred in Memphis, the chief of police would be immediately notified. It's not people that are looking at those cameras.
It's AI that's looking at the cameras.

Speaker 1 No, no, no.

Speaker 25 You can't do this.

Speaker 1 It would be like a shooting.

Speaker 25 That's going to be immediately, that's going to be an event that's immediately reported, an alarm is going to go off,

Speaker 25 and

Speaker 25 we're going to

Speaker 25 have supervision. In other words, every police officer is going to be supervised at all times.

Speaker 25 And the supervision will,

Speaker 25 and if there's a problem, AI will report the problem and report it to the appropriate

Speaker 25 person, whether it's the sheriff or the chief or whomever we need to

Speaker 25 take control of the situation.

Speaker 25 Same thing with drones.

Speaker 25 If there's something going on in a shopping site, and I'll stop. A drone goes out there, it goes there way faster than a police car.
There's no reason for, by the way, high-speed chases.

Speaker 25 You shouldn't have high-speed chases between cars.

Speaker 25 You just have a drone follow the car. I mean, it's very, very simple.
And the new generation of autonomous drones.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and then have the drone shoot the car

Speaker 1 with a cruise missile.

Speaker 1 But what kind of dystopian

Speaker 1 predator drone. Yeah, what kind of dystopian world does Larry Ellison go fly a drone over Ellison's house?

Speaker 1 This is a guy who doesn't talk about not leaving the house. Yeah.

Speaker 1 For one thing, Oakland, let's just look at Oakland. With or without AI, there'll be a robbery on Hagenberger.
It takes 45 minutes to an hour for the cops to show up if they show up.

Speaker 1 A lot of times the Oakland

Speaker 1 merchants always say they never show up. They don't show up.

Speaker 1 Or the fact that Oakland is the only place place that had an in-and-out burger closed in the entire state of California because there was so much crime in and around the in-and-out burger, which is at

Speaker 1 the intersection of the freeway. And Hagenberger wrote a major, major intersection.
And now the CEO is leaving California. And the CEO, yes, I don't have the clip going on about it, but

Speaker 1 she's the CEO of, and she's moving the entire corporate headquarters to Tennessee

Speaker 1 to one of the little towns there, Franklin,

Speaker 1 to be specific.

Speaker 1 She's moving to Franklin, Tennessee, and they're going to use their, and they may start moving in-and-out burgers further east.

Speaker 1 And she says it's almost impossible to do business in California. That's that Gavin Newsome and the Democrats, they don't want you doing business here.
They want it to be a communist state. Yes,

Speaker 1 and you want to stay there. It's amazing.

Speaker 1 It's a cycle. It's going to be dynamite when these guys get, when the cycle goes the other way, it's going to go crazy.
Will we outlive the cycle is the question.

Speaker 1 Well, it's a real problem to think about that.

Speaker 1 But okay, I'm hanging in there. It gives me hope.

Speaker 1 Hope and change. It's coming, everybody.
Hope and change. And so,

Speaker 1 yeah. So Ellison, I don't know what he's thinking.
This is nuts.

Speaker 1 None of this is even close to being accurate, the way police work. It's just dumb.
But okay, this is a nice thought, I guess. Not even a nice thought.
It's kind of sinister. It's very sinister.

Speaker 1 Oh, is it to have a drone? Yeah, what's going to happen is you live in a nice community, you know, a gated community with your multi-million dollar home and you'll have a private police force.

Speaker 1 Everybody else gets Larry Ellison's drone following them.

Speaker 1 Well, I'm still waiting for the day. Well, for one thing, I'm still waiting for two things to happen, which will eventually in the future.

Speaker 1 One is drone war, real drone war warfare, where one million drones attack something. That would be kind of hard to fend off no matter what you do.

Speaker 1 And then the other one is like you're sitting in the office here, you know, I'm on the my house, and then I look out the window, and there's a drone just hovering outside the window looking at me.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's coming. That happens all the time now.

Speaker 1 You can go on your favorite app there, TikTok, and you can see people shooting at drones all the time.

Speaker 1 Some yokel is flying his drone around the neighborhood and people start shooting at it, which, by the way, I would do too.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's what you want to do. Well, of course, it's good like skeet shooting.
Get a shotgun, put bird shot in it

Speaker 1 because it'll have a spray, it'll give you a wide, it'll give you maybe a three-foot

Speaker 1 garbage can size. Yeah, it will eventually get out there way out there, and it you should be able to take out a drone at distance.

Speaker 1 Anyway,

Speaker 1 I'm just appalled, appalled

Speaker 1 at Ellison.

Speaker 1 I'm not

Speaker 1 he's just he might as well just be you know

Speaker 1 sitting there and talking to himself with the drool cup

Speaker 1 well I caught it so there it is there it is

Speaker 1 there's the drone

Speaker 1 yeah there's the drone so let's play these analysis clips of the because you did bring up the part where they're talking about Trump and and his uh connection to

Speaker 1 Epstein. Oh, yeah.
And specifically.

Speaker 1 Which they also, which the media cannot stop talking about.

Speaker 1 No, it's because they think they got something on them. They think something's happening.
But I want to play, this is a little, this is kind of, was counter-programming for PBS's ran yesterday.

Speaker 1 They talked to a New York Times guy about the connection between Trump and Epstein. And it brings up a point of information that I think is interesting.

Speaker 8 President Trump said today he wants all Jeffrey Epstein grand jury testimony made public as he continues to spar with parts of his political base over his handling of the matter.

Speaker 1 Before we continue, isn't the whole point of a grand jury that that's never made public, or am I mistaken on that?

Speaker 1 It can be made public.

Speaker 1 But you're right. No,

Speaker 1 when you go into a grand jury, it's a secret proceeding. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's a secret court. It's like a star chamber.
And if I'm also

Speaker 1 not mistaken,

Speaker 1 a grand jury is where you go to indict the ham sandwich.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Because a grand jury, you can basically get any kind of testimony out there that you want.
And then the grand jury will go, yeah, we should probably pick that guy up off the street.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's basically what a grand jury does. I'm just making sure I understand the grand jury because it sounds so official.
Grand jury.

Speaker 1 The grandchurry by the way. You get a badge?

Speaker 1 You get a grand jury badge and you can use it. You can flash it at cops when it comes to getting pulled over for something.
People have their grand jury badge. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Grand jury badge in their wallet. Is that like a PBA card?

Speaker 1 A PBA card? A professional bowlers association? No, you don't have to be a bowler. Police Benevolence Association.

Speaker 1 No, I think it's more like those little courtesy badges, which I have a couple. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
It's like a PBA card. It's the same thing.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the courtesy badge you can carry in your wallet.

Speaker 1 Could I get a little courtesy from you, Ossipher?

Speaker 1 And the way it works, because

Speaker 1 I've only used it once.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 I was in the Santa Barbara area or someplace, and I had my highlights on. And

Speaker 1 I didn't turn them off. And a good cop goes by and he swings around and pulls me over.

Speaker 1 And so I said, driver, license, so I opened my wallet in clear view of his flashlight. It was at night, obviously.
And he sees the courtesy badges. They're little bitty things.
They're only about...

Speaker 1 Yeah, like a lapel badge, basically. Yeah, basically.
But it's, you know, carry them around. And he says, what's that?

Speaker 1 And I said, that he said, what's that in your mouth? And I said, that's, I was, I did some work for,

Speaker 1 and I just discussed where the badge came from.

Speaker 1 And he said, and he's, and he recognizes, he's just, yeah, yeah, well, hey, you had your highlights on. Don't do it again.
And he gets my thing back and forth.

Speaker 1 So I had a PBA card, which is, it's like a business card with an embossed little shield on it. And I got pulled over in Montclair, New Jersey.

Speaker 26 And so.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 back there, they're very...

Speaker 1 Good with this kind of scam. Yes, and Officer Bob, Officer Bob, badge number three, Montclair Police.

Speaker 1 He sees the card. He says, oh, oh, well, I can give you some courtesy.
Adam, that's your name, Adam. Oh, yeah.
You're on MTV, right? Hey, you want to come to the morgue one day? It's really cool.

Speaker 1 Wow. That's a lot better than we get out in the West Coast.
Hey, man, you should see. I want to come to the morgue.
You should see the morgue, man. It's really cool.
We can go at 11 p.m.

Speaker 1 Like, hey, Officer Bob, that's great. Thanks.
I don't think I want to go to the morgue.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 That's a fabulous invite. All right, here we go.

Speaker 8 At the same time, Mr. Trump acknowledged that even releasing all that that testimony might not be enough for the troublemakers and radical left lunatics.
Earlier, Mr.

Speaker 8 Trump said that supporters pressing him to release more Epstein material are weaklings who have fallen for a Democratic hoax.

Speaker 8 With some conservative critics saying now that the president is part of a cover-up, attention is turning to the relationship between the two men.

Speaker 8 New York Times White House correspondent Luke Broadwater has written about what's known about the Trump-Epstein relationship. Luke, how far back do these two men go?

Speaker 27 Well, we know they've known each other since at least the late 1980s or 1990 when

Speaker 27 Jeffrey Epstein purchased a property in Palm Beach.

Speaker 27 Shortly thereafter, the two men became friendly. They ran in the same circles.
They were both from New York. They were both rich.

Speaker 27 They both had a love for nightlife and for attending flashy parties and being surrounded by women. And so for about 15 years, as best we can tell, they were pretty tight.

Speaker 27 Trump flew on Epstein's private

Speaker 27 Palm Beach in New York at least seven times. And it isn't until 2004 when they really have a falling out, when they become rivals over a real estate property in Florida.

Speaker 27 They both wanted the same oceanfront mansion.

Speaker 27 And

Speaker 27 Donald Trump and Epstein sort of become rivals or even enemies after that.

Speaker 8 And after that break, after the break over that real estate, did they ever get back together or was that it?

Speaker 27 Not as best we can tell. There's no

Speaker 1 public record of them interacting after

Speaker 27 about 2004.

Speaker 1 It was my understanding that Epstein was

Speaker 1 cozying up to the teenage girls at Mar-a-Lago and he kicked them out. What happened to that part of the story? That part of the story would seem to be something of a Trump creation.
Oh, it's not true?

Speaker 1 Well, I don't know whether it's true or not, but the New York Times guy doesn't see it that way.

Speaker 1 But he says the breakup took place in 2004 with this dispute over some property that both of them wanted.

Speaker 1 But let's play the rest of these, and I have my point of information.

Speaker 27 And Trump himself, after Epstein

Speaker 27 died in jail, said he hadn't talked to him in 15 years. And we haven't found any evidence that contradicts that.

Speaker 8 What was his reaction or public reaction when Epstein was arrested on sex trafficking in 2019?

Speaker 27 Well, he tried to distance himself from any connection to Epstein and he called him a creep. There have been times when he called for a full investigation.

Speaker 27 There have been times when he tried to suggest maybe Democrats were involved in wrongdoing in connection to Epstein.

Speaker 27 And there have been other times when he sort of hedged and said he didn't want everything out and that he believed maybe innocent people could be unfairly maligned. And he even expressed sympathy

Speaker 27 for

Speaker 27 Miss Maxwell, who was Jeffrey Epstein's former girlfriend, who's now serving a prison sentence for helping him with his sex trafficking ring that and she was she was convicted of that and is doing as doing a 20-year prison sentence currently.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 1 okay, let's just go to the last clip and I'll bring it up.

Speaker 1 You say he was sort of

Speaker 8 ambivalent about releasing this stuff

Speaker 8 during the campaign, but it was certainly a big part of the MAGA base that was supporting him. And now he's trying to get them to move on.

Speaker 1 Do you think they will? It doesn't seem like it.

Speaker 27 You know, he famously bragged he could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and wouldn't lose any supporters. This seems to be the one issue, though, where he's really put himself in a political fix.

Speaker 27 His base has been adamant that all these files be released.

Speaker 27 If you look at sort of right-wing message boards or social media posts, really ardent supporters of Donald Trump are turning on him over this issue.

Speaker 27 They're saying he's becoming, you know, like the swamp. He's part of a cover-up.
And so

Speaker 1 him saying move on does not appear to be working.

Speaker 27 Maybe it's working with some of the Republicans on Capitol Hill. Maybe it's working with, you a few talk show hosts.

Speaker 27 But by and large, the base seems to be demanding that every piece of information about Jeffrey Epstein and his crimes come out.

Speaker 27 As you know, there's a widespread belief that there were

Speaker 27 rich and famous men who abused women along with Jeffrey Epstein. And people want to see those men brought to justice.

Speaker 27 And to date, it's really only been Jeffrey Epstein and Maxwell who have faced any legal repercussions.

Speaker 1 Okay, your analysis, John C. DeVora.

Speaker 1 Well, it's not an analysis, it's a point of information, which is that the recent scandal supposedly that was run out of the Wall Street Journal was a note that was given to Epstein for his birthday.

Speaker 1 It was put in a binder, and I guess it was bound as though it couldn't have been unbound and rebound by the CIA, let's say.

Speaker 1 That note, supposedly some lewd note that he made a lot of sexual points or something.

Speaker 1 Well, I mean, the exact text was: Let every day be a secret, a beautiful secret. Yeah, some bull crap.
That note is dated 2006.

Speaker 1 How does that jive with in-depth reporting by an operation that doesn't like Trump? And they say that there's no connection between Trump and Epstein after 2004.

Speaker 1 How does the 2006 document fit into the scheme of things?

Speaker 1 Point of information.

Speaker 1 I thought it was 2012 when that note went. That was the first time.
My understanding was 2006, but it's still after 2004. 2004 is the cutoff point, according to all the research.

Speaker 1 We've seen no evidence he goes on about it, that Trump and Epstein had anything to do with each other after 2004. How does 2006 or 12, whatever the year,

Speaker 1 how does that fit into the scheme of things? It doesn't. It doesn't.
It's a fake.

Speaker 1 But even then,

Speaker 1 let's just say he did it. He drew a naked lady and he put in there happy birthday.

Speaker 1 Here, I think they have the text here. I think.
This is Brolf.

Speaker 1 Breaking News!

Speaker 10 We begin with the breaking news. President Trump is taking a big step forward in revealing details, details of the sex trafficking case against Jeffrey Epstein.

Speaker 10 He's now authorizing the Attorney General of the United States, Pam Bondi, to produce, and I'm quoting now,

Speaker 10 any and all pertinent grand jury testimony, close quote.

Speaker 16 The Justice Department says it will go to court today to seek that public release.

Speaker 16 Even the president's loyal followers have demanded the administration make good on its promise to share more information.

Speaker 16 And new this morning, the president and his allies are lashing out at the Wall Street Journal.

Speaker 16 It is reporting that Epstein's friends and family associates sent body letters for a birthday album in 2003.

Speaker 15 And according to

Speaker 1 the journal, one of those radio letters.

Speaker 1 That's what they're saying now. This is CNN, though.
It's from Donald Trump.

Speaker 1 They keep moving the target on us. Well, it was for his 50th birthday.
That would mean 2012. I mean, that's a simple math.
I looked that up because people were saying, it's not Donald Trump.

Speaker 1 It was Donald Barr, Donald Barr, Bill Barr's dad who hired him. It was Donald, Donald, Donald Barr.
Donald Barr died in 2004, people. So, no, it didn't happen then either.

Speaker 10 And it is so, so graphic. The article in the Wall Street Journal describes the.

Speaker 1 I thought Babylon B did the best.

Speaker 1 They had a headline. Donald Trump typed 8008 on a calculator, turned it upside down, and showed it to Epstein.

Speaker 10 Letter this way, and I'm quoting now. It contains several lines of typewritten text framed by the outline of a naked woman, which appears to be hand-drawn

Speaker 10 with a heavy marker.

Speaker 1 Heavy marker denotes it. Heavy marker, a heavy marker.
That's it. No, it has to be that way because you have to envision him holding the thing like a fist with a crayon because he's a big dope.

Speaker 1 Now, he uses a sharpie for all of his signatures. So I think that's the reference, but okay.

Speaker 10 It's the woman's button.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 10 And the future president's signature is a good point. Twiggly Donald below her waist, mimicking pubic hair.

Speaker 10 The letter concludes: happy birthday.

Speaker 1 Oh, no, pubic hair.

Speaker 10 And may every day be another wonderful man.

Speaker 10 Close quote.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 what in the world is this? If this is just, it's like, okay, first of all, I don't know why the, I mean, he's filed a $10 billion lawsuit.

Speaker 1 Why does he even care if not to make it the distraction of the week? I don't understand any other reason

Speaker 1 to file a $10 billion lawsuit over this.

Speaker 1 How is that even?

Speaker 1 Let's say it's not his,

Speaker 1 but how is that defamatory? Pubic hair.

Speaker 1 What in the world is going on?

Speaker 1 And then, of course, we've got the CNN dragging out every story we can.

Speaker 28 Jeffrey Epstein's ex-girlfriend speaking out tonight. Stacey Williams, a former sports illustrated model who dated Epstein in the early 90s, has spent time with both Epstein and Donald Trump together.

Speaker 28 In one disturbing alleged incident, which Williams went public with last year before the presidential election, Williams says Trump groped her in front of Epstein at Trump Tower in 1993.

Speaker 28 Here's what she told our son Lincoln Fadi when she first

Speaker 31 the second he was in front of me,

Speaker 31 he pulled me into him, and his hands were just on me and didn't come off.

Speaker 31 Then the hands started moving and they were on the, you know, on the side of my breasts, on my hips, back down to my butt, back up, sort of then, you know, they were just on me the whole time.

Speaker 1 And I

Speaker 1 sorry.

Speaker 15 I froze.

Speaker 28 Williams also claimed that Epstein and Trump looked at each other and smiled during the alleged incident, which Williams says she now believes was coordinated and, quote, some kind of weird, twisted game.

Speaker 28 Trump denied Williams's allegations through his campaign at the time, which said in part, quote, it's obvious this fake story was contrived by Kamala Harris's campaign. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So, of course, actually, Naomi Wolf wrote a pretty decent essay on her sub stack,

Speaker 1 which goes back to

Speaker 1 your boy, because she also had Brockman, was her publicist, and the millionaire, and then later billionaire dinners, and how all of these scientists, you know, and this goes a bit about what Weinstein said, is that Epstein had his hands in all kinds of technology and scientific stuff, and whether he was trying to steer it towards, I don't know, gene therapies.

Speaker 1 It doesn't really matter. But in the grand

Speaker 1 grand jury testimony,

Speaker 1 a lot of people are going to be implicated because they either went down to a conference at the island and maybe, you know, I can certainly see you got a bunch of nerds down there.

Speaker 1 Hey, hey, guys, look at these girls. Yeah, but you don't know what to do.
Well, I should mention that there used to be, I wish I could remember the name of the company. But there was a small,

Speaker 1 it was something of a startup, and it was a chip company. And they used to, during the Comdex era, they used to do these big parties.

Speaker 1 I never found out about this, never went to one of these parties because I think they would have been a hoot. But

Speaker 1 you didn't get invited, is what you're saying. Well, that's probably what the situation.

Speaker 1 I wasn't invited because they don't, I'm sure I wouldn't be invited because I was a writer. And they really, this was a sales kind of a thing.
They were trying to sell their product to people.

Speaker 1 But I knew a guy that went to it all the time. And he says all all this guy did, the CEO, was well connected with the underground, and he just loaded it.
It was all whores. It was a party of hookers.

Speaker 1 And so they bring all these guys in, and all these hookers would be taken them to the different rooms around

Speaker 1 whatever hotel they were in. And that's how they did their business.
Their whole business was basically... getting these guys to sign up on on getting using these guys chips with hookers.
It's the

Speaker 1 oldest trick in the book.

Speaker 1 Well, it's yeah, it's obvious

Speaker 1 if you can pull it off. And they pulled it off.
The stock went public, and they got bought by somebody else.

Speaker 1 And next thing you know, I can't even remember the name of the company, but I do remember the story.

Speaker 1 And because this guy, my friend who went to these parties, he said it was hilarious to watch these guys get, they all thought these

Speaker 1 half of these guys that were the buyers didn't know they were even hookers. They thought these girls were interested in that.

Speaker 1 And then five seconds later. Hey, look at this picture.
What's that in your mouth?

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 here's, okay, so here's the thing that is just not in the discussion. Actually, let me play one more clip.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 this morning. Martha Radatts, ABC this week.
Oh my God, we got to keep talking about it. We can't stop.

Speaker 33 I'm joined now by GOP Congressman Tim Burchett of Tennessee, who has called for more transparency in the Epstein case. Good morning, Congressman.

Speaker 33 You've co-sponsored the bipartisan Epstein Files Transparency Act, which would force the House to vote on whether or not to release all government files on Epstein.

Speaker 33 What exactly do you think the government is withholding here?

Speaker 1 By the way, can the House do that? Can they supersede the Department of Justice and say, release everything?

Speaker 1 No matter what? I don't know that they can.

Speaker 1 I don't know. I have no idea.
It doesn't sound right. It doesn't sound right to me either.
But anyway, they're all virtue signaling.

Speaker 26 Well, that's a million-dollar question, ma'am. Ma'am, yeah, ma'am.

Speaker 1 Hey, ma'am. That's a million-dollar question.
I'm going to answer it for you. The question is, what's that in your mouth, ma'am?

Speaker 26 That's the question. That's the million-dollar question, ma'am.

Speaker 26 I applaud the president and Attorney General Bondi for wanting to release the grand jury files. I believe that'll pretty much cover everything.

Speaker 26 But I would give everybody a caveat, or that's a big word, but a warning that just because somebody flew on a plane doesn't mean they're a dad gum pedophile. You know, I

Speaker 26 have a lot of wealthy friends.

Speaker 1 This guy's great. I have not heard of him.
Dad, gum pedophile. Daddy, right.

Speaker 1 He's got a dad gum pedophile. Because I've got a lot of rich friends and they fly on each other's jets all the time.

Speaker 26 Because somebody flew on a plane doesn't mean they're a dad gum pedophile. You know,

Speaker 26 I have a lot of wealthy friends.

Speaker 26 I aspire to be wealthy, but I've taken a vow of poverty because my daughter rides horses.

Speaker 1 This is my favorite.

Speaker 1 I aspire to be wealthy, but I can't be a bit of a porn. Yeah, we bought a horde of horses, a whole bunch of fleet of them.

Speaker 1 And I don't charm, but I'm broke. So

Speaker 1 I can't be rich because my daughter, she loves riding them horses. Them quarter horses, they cost like a million bucks a piece.

Speaker 26 So, but I have a lot of wealthy friends, and they fly on people's planes and their plane will be down and they'll say, hey, we're going somewhere and we got an extra seat. Do you want to go?

Speaker 26 And they don't even know the person on the plane. So, you know, they.

Speaker 1 Hey, if I had my own plane, I wouldn't be like, who are you? No.

Speaker 1 If I was wealthy and have my own dad gum plane, I wouldn't have anyone who I didn't know on my plane.

Speaker 26 And we got an extra seat. Do you want to go? And they don't even know the person on the plane.
So, you know, that's one of the things I worry about, too.

Speaker 26 You know, President Trump.

Speaker 1 Sounds like somebody took

Speaker 26 it that he flew on his dadgum plane.

Speaker 11 That gum. Dad gum played it again.

Speaker 26 I worry about some innocent people.

Speaker 26 I worry about there's over a thousand people that this dirt bag apparently offended. And currently, I believe the devil's dealing with him.
Right.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 26 I worry about some of those innocents' names being out on that, too, as well.

Speaker 1 That guy's doing a filibuster. How do you spell dad gum? Is it D-A-G-G-U-M? Dadgum.
It's D-A-D-G-U-M. Dadgum.

Speaker 1 That's a possible show title, I think. Dad Gum.
I wrote it down as a show title. Dad Gum.
Do you want to hear more from this guy? Because I find it. Oh, I love this guy's voice.

Speaker 1 It's entertaining all of a sudden.

Speaker 33 Do you think unsealing the grand jury records is enough for you now?

Speaker 26 Enough for you now? Well, ma'am. I think it's a start.
I don't think we're ever going to get to the bottom of anything, all of it, ma'am. I mean, ma'am.
Look at the Kennedy assassination.

Speaker 26 Do you actually believe Lee Harvey Oswald shot President Kennedy from the front and the back, and this magic bullet appears an hour later

Speaker 26 on a hospital gurney and in an emergency room? You know, this town doesn't give up its secrets very easy. And I'd warn people, too, now we're getting a hold of this stuff.

Speaker 26 What happened the last four years under the Biden administration?

Speaker 26 Senator Dick Durbin blocked my senator, Marsha Blackburn, who valiantly fought to get those records out and acted pretty much like there wasn't anything, and the media backed him up on it.

Speaker 26 And now all of a sudden the media thinks they've got something and it's it's it's leveled towards Trump. But my history with this issue goes back a long way.

Speaker 26 I spent 16 years in the Tennessee General Assembly and I passed and attempted to pass some of the toughest laws in the country, some of the first ICAC funding crimes against children.

Speaker 26 I've promoted the death penalty, chemical castration of child molesters. Lawrence bills were ruled unconstitutional.

Speaker 1 I don't mess around. You know, I'm from Tennessee.
So

Speaker 1 I live in Franklin with my horse.

Speaker 1 The CEO of In-N-Out Burgers moving to this guy's state. She's from the San Francisco Bay Area originally.
No, this is not going to work out.

Speaker 1 Dad-Numbers. Native California, you know.
Dad gum In-N-Out Burger.

Speaker 1 I don't know if you can stay in Tennessee that long. Well,

Speaker 1 is your dad gum In-N Out Burger, you make them from grass-fed beef, or do you finish them off with some grain, or you just feed them snicker bars? I want to know.

Speaker 1 So you no longer believe that was pretty good actually. I'm surprised at myself.

Speaker 1 You actually have it. You nailed it.
Or are demois.

Speaker 33 That all the Epstein files be released.

Speaker 26 No, ma'am.

Speaker 26 I want them released, but my warning is this.

Speaker 26 Let's make sure that we're not releasing the names of some of these who were then children, now adults, that were abused by this dirtbag, Epstein. Dirtbag.

Speaker 26 And let's make sure we don't release things that

Speaker 26 have innocents' names on them.

Speaker 26 That's been my concern with the original.

Speaker 26 I thought they were dragging their feet in the beginning under the Biden administration. They never did anything.
And now all of a sudden it's become a political issue.

Speaker 26 It's not a political issue with me, ma'am. I've held the hands of people that have been molested and they carry a life sentence.

Speaker 1 You've been very critical.

Speaker 11 I'm sorry.

Speaker 33 You have been very critical of Pam Bondi during this. And the President said he thinks she's handled it well.
So, where is the disconnect there? And do you think she should resign?

Speaker 1 Well, no, ma'am. I think she's doing a fine job.

Speaker 26 I think her communication with us early on

Speaker 26 was not as good. I mean, the binder, for instance, that she put out, I was very excited about that.
But then I found the contents of it, and I think she blundered in the beginning.

Speaker 26 I really do, as most Americans do,

Speaker 26 because

Speaker 26 that white notebook that those young folks, those influencers, walked out with.

Speaker 1 Them dad gum, dad gum influencers,

Speaker 1 dad gum influencers walked out with. That was a hoax.
That was it.

Speaker 26 That was it.

Speaker 26 And then when I started digging into it, it was stuff that I, and I'm, I'm, I'm, uh, um, I like, I like my postings on Twitter, but, or X, but that's about the limit of my computer knowledge.

Speaker 26 But even I could find those things

Speaker 1 on the internet that were already out there.

Speaker 26 So I think they blundered in the beginning, but I think they're going to finish strong. All right.

Speaker 1 Do you want to hear the last clip from this guy? I wasn't even planning on playing him at all. I'm not complimenting me with this guy.

Speaker 1 I mean, you know, this guy's good. He's good.
His voice is daggum.

Speaker 33 President Trump has started claiming this is all a hoax that is being perpetrated by the Democrats.

Speaker 33 He says some of his own supporters, who he labeled stupid and foolish Republicans, you are obviously one of those people who wants this released.

Speaker 1 You're stupid.

Speaker 33 What's your reaction to how President Trump just handled it?

Speaker 1 Yes, ma'am. I'm not stupid.

Speaker 26 It's his strategy.

Speaker 26 You know, Everybody questions President Trump's strategy. They said the big, beautiful bill wasn't going to get out on the 4th of July.
Trump comes out and says, I don't care when you put it out.

Speaker 26 I said, I don't care if you put it out on July 40th, get the bill out. I just want it out.
And what happened? That gum was passed it on the 4th of July.

Speaker 1 It's getting gummy. That cryptocurrency bill.
My own Senator Haggerty has that Bitcoin stuff.

Speaker 26 Had the Genius Act part of that. And everybody said it was dead.
It wasn't going anywhere. And there I am on a phone call.
I'm in a meeting with

Speaker 26 our speaker and

Speaker 26 our whip, Tom Emmert, and 10 or 12 fellow conservatives that had concerns about it.

Speaker 26 And lo and behold, President Trump calls, answers all of our questions, and the bill passes, and he signed it on Friday. So, you know, I think to underestimate Donald J.
Trump is

Speaker 26 a mistake in this town. And I think we're learning that.
And, you know, that's his strategy.

Speaker 26 Was I a little ticked off he said that stuff? Sure, I was. But I'm a big boy, ma'am.
I'm in the

Speaker 26 playing in the big leagues right now.

Speaker 26 And, you know, I get criticized every day. I get death threats on a pretty regular basis.
So my skin's about that thick right now. I think I can take a little criticism.

Speaker 11 It sounds like you can.

Speaker 26 He's coming out with it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's coming out with it. It's all good.
It's all good. That's right.
That's right. Wow.

Speaker 1 What is that guy? Tim Burchett. Tim Burchett of Tennessee.
Yeah, that's good. That guy's a star.
Yeah, I think I love the dad gum things he's been saying.

Speaker 1 Well, you know, dad gum is a one of these things like cripes. It's better.
It's better. This should be.

Speaker 1 Well, it's because it's a cuss word.

Speaker 1 What's the dad gum vibe over there, John?

Speaker 1 Is it a dad gum move?

Speaker 1 So it's a cuss word. It's like saying, you know, they're dropping the F-bomb constantly or the, you know,

Speaker 1 various forms of damn. Yes.

Speaker 1 So it's just one of these substitutes that come in friggin, you know. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I do not like people who say friggin'.

Speaker 1 We know what you mean.

Speaker 1 I like writing it. Friggin?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 When you're writing friggin, F-R-I-G-G-I-N apostrophe, it has just a nice ring to it in print.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Believe me, I just like

Speaker 1 the chance to, I don't use it that much, but when I use it, I like using it.

Speaker 1 The only thing he didn't do was he didn't say say y'all. I missed a y'all in there.
He didn't say y'all once. Should have been.
So here's the thing that is kind of being overlooked in all this.

Speaker 1 And, you know,

Speaker 1 ever before this show started, I've been looking at these, and I mentioned on the previous show, Dutru, the Rolodex Files. I've been around elites.
You know, I was in.

Speaker 1 This is when I was. They burned a radio station down because of you.
Yes. When I was, I think, 17,

Speaker 1 we had the pirate radio station, and one of the guys.

Speaker 1 And there's a story about your first wife and the

Speaker 1 well, I won't even get into that story. But anyway, go on, continue.
Well, what story is that? About the Gaba Goo.

Speaker 1 The Gaba Goo? Yeah, never mind.

Speaker 1 I'm stumped. Well, you're right.
Oh, no, I can tell you that. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 No, that wasn't, it wasn't the Gaba Goo. It was

Speaker 1 one of the royal members of the Dutch royal family. This is before I knew her.

Speaker 1 And they were doing a photo op,

Speaker 1 and this member, literal member of the royal family, was rubbing up against her with a boner. But there was no gabagoo.
I don't recall that. Oh, I understood there to be a gabagoo.
No, I don't think.

Speaker 1 I don't think. Gabagoo, do you spell that? G-O-B-B-B-GABA.
G-O-B-B-A-G. G-G-B-A-G.
Gabba Gabagoo. Gabagoo.
I think it's a Ramon. It's also Italian.
I think it's a Ramon song. Anyway,

Speaker 1 so, and I've been, so back to my story. So I was 17, and we had this guy who sponsored the Pirate Radio Station.
He had two clothing stores, and he said, yeah, you know, you're going to America.

Speaker 1 I want you to record all the

Speaker 1 ads because I'm crazy about advertising. I want to see how Americans do ads.
So I go to his house.

Speaker 1 It's like a mansion in Amsterdam, in Amsterdam itself, you know, comprised of like a whole city block.

Speaker 1 And it was creepy, just creepy in general. I'm kind of like, oh, what am I? And he was going to give me money to do record these ads.
Maybe I was 16 to record these ads.

Speaker 1 And then all of a sudden, I see a Dutch minister of parliament riding a 10-speed bike in the house.

Speaker 1 I'm like, what in the world is this?

Speaker 1 And he was like, hey, you know, you should come to the party later tonight. Yeah, okay, I think I'll pass on the party.
And it was just

Speaker 1 weird. So when you get into this level of wealth and this level of fame and power,

Speaker 1 people

Speaker 1 do crazy things.

Speaker 1 The most normal people will get into, you know,

Speaker 1 what is it, eyes wide shut. That stuff's for real.

Speaker 1 People who are bored, they can buy anything. They're bored.
That's the kicker. They're bored.
They can buy anything. They can do anything.
So they get into these situations.

Speaker 1 And every, hey, all the kids are doing it. And then

Speaker 1 you wind up in these odd situations. Yeah.
But yeah, you're in a satanic cult, the next thing you know.

Speaker 1 But what is not being discussed in all of this, and this is really a spiritual problem we have in America, is that there's 40,000 images of child pornography uploaded to the internet in America every single day.

Speaker 1 I'd be surprised if it wasn't every single minute.

Speaker 1 And, you know, when I look at the culture we have, the culture we've created, going back to the 30s in Hollywood with Shirley Temple and war babies, Shirley Temple in a bra, highly sexualized, you know, and it never stopped, never stopped in Hollywood and everything that we have in our media.

Speaker 1 There are so many, and particularly advertising, so many trigger points have been examined and re-examined. And young, smooth skin,

Speaker 1 it makes people want to buy products. And we have corrupted so many.

Speaker 1 How do people get into this state? How do they get into it?

Speaker 1 If you just Google

Speaker 1 child pornography network arrested. Oh, there's a good idea.
Google that, everybody else. Every month, there's hundreds, hundreds of people being arrested for this stuff.

Speaker 1 It is rife throughout our culture. And this is, I would like to see that conversation be discussed for once, but you're not going to

Speaker 1 Martha Raditz for all I care, or this daggum guy. You know, I see all this stuff.

Speaker 1 Yeah, tell us more because that is the real problem.

Speaker 1 Yeah, sure, scientists, wealthy people. No, at least we don't have a state.
We don't have a building. The no agenda show doesn't have a building that'll burn down.
So we're good there.

Speaker 1 Your house, maybe. But my point is, we need to look at our own culture and

Speaker 1 how do we get to this point outside of the rich people.

Speaker 1 people that it's really sick we are very very sick and I heard just the other day that a lot of this child trafficking is happening through some of the

Speaker 1 beef networks I'll just keep it very vague because I don't have any proof of it so allegedly coming up through from South America through the big beef processors. There's only three.
Take your pick.

Speaker 1 There's four.

Speaker 1 In America, there's only three.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 it's an ongoing train of just kids and underage boys and girls being trafficked throughout our country.

Speaker 1 But how did we get so sick?

Speaker 1 How do you get to the 300,000 missing kids from the Biden administration? How do we get, you know, it's just the whole thing. It's an underground.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 That's what I'm saying. This is the, I'd rather have people be discussing that for hours.
Like, what is going on? What is happening? How does this happen? Why is this everywhere in the world?

Speaker 1 What are we missing?

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's a different podcast. It's a different podcast, but I just needed to bring it up for my own.
I'm going to do this other podcast. I think I will, actually.
Okay. I think I will.

Speaker 1 It'll be called. I think you should.
Yeah, I think I should. Yeah.
Because

Speaker 1 that conversation, everyone's like, oh, Epstein, Epstein. But how about all the other victims that are never discussed? All right.
Another podcast. I'll start another podcast.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're not podcasting enough. I need more podcasts in my life.
Well, thank you. That's a good idea.
I'm going to do that. I'm going to think about it.
Okay. I think you should.
I'll call you.

Speaker 1 You've been. It's not.
I'm not saying this as a

Speaker 1 flippant. You're not being.
I'm not being flippant.

Speaker 1 I think you should because you've been doing this before we even started this podcast. You've been on this kick.
I'll call it a kick

Speaker 1 about this with with all the stuff in Holland, and you just, you bitch and moan about it constantly, but you don't do the podcast. You don't, you haven't done a podcast about it.
I think I should.

Speaker 1 I'm going to, and it's not just this, there's lots of now. It could be a true crime podcast.
Oh, goodness. No, no.
There's some money there. There's another thing.

Speaker 1 When did we become obsessed with true crime? That is the number one podcast category. Like, we're not obsessed with stopping it.
No, we're obsessed with listening about it.

Speaker 1 I want to hear how they kill them.

Speaker 1 Screw podcasting on that.

Speaker 1 It's also, if you think about it, if you watch the over the air, you don't do so much as I do, over the air TV, there's at least three entire networks that do nothing but 24-7

Speaker 1 reruns of Dateline and all the other and true crime, this and true cr

Speaker 1 there's a network called True Crime. Yeah, I know.
And they just play these documentaries and it's just and you and they're all compelling.

Speaker 1 There's always some nutball teacher in some town in Idaho, and it says you're watching this person got messed up, and they killed a sister-in-law because of this and that. Wow, geez.
Yeah, and well,

Speaker 1 so somehow our minds have really just been corrupted. And I was thinking about this in regards to the chat bot, which now it has a name, actually.
I didn't realize this. Chat bot with the hair?

Speaker 1 No, no, no.

Speaker 1 What are you talking about? That one chat, the physical chat, the one that's the girl, that's

Speaker 1 annie.

Speaker 1 Anime. No, no.

Speaker 1 No, in general. It's called chat GPT-induced psychosis.

Speaker 1 Oh, you're talking about the condition. Yes.
And there's a lot of, I mean, I had no idea so much had been written about it. Like, people are being involuntary.

Speaker 1 involuntarily committed and jailed after spiraling into chat GPT induced psychosis. And what's interesting about it is

Speaker 1 it always winds up in the same kind of where people go nuts is them

Speaker 1 they believe that the chat GPT is a sentient being and they're communicating with a spiritual world.

Speaker 1 Every single one of these stories, except for the ones who are having, you know, sexual fantasies with them.

Speaker 1 Well, this is how different is this from the people that are notorious for thinking the TV is talking to them. Oh, it's a secret message.
No, it's not. It's not.
But this is a whole different deal.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 there's a billion people using these chatbots. And I'm okay with,

Speaker 1 although there's no evidence that the actual productivity is there, I'm seeing people crying about their vibe coding going wrong and, oh, my chat GPT deleted my production database. Okay.

Speaker 1 So, you know, and I'm, and it's fine if you want to create AI voices and funny memes, and that's all great.

Speaker 1 But the psychosis part of people talking to their chat bots and being sucked in, and I realize that we have been so preconditioned for this. Going back to your favorite Colossus.

Speaker 1 Colossus,

Speaker 1 wasn't that the movie? The Colossus? The Fourth Project? The

Speaker 1 Fourbon Project? Yes. 1970.
2001. Space Odyssey.
Yeah, one of my faves. Space Odyssey.
This is all computers talking to people. Tron, War Games, of course.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Terminator.

Speaker 1 Close the door. But what was it?

Speaker 1 Hal. What was the name of the computer? Hal, Hal.

Speaker 1 Open the door. Open the door.
No, I'm sorry, Dave. Yeah, that's space odyssey.
But I'm not opening the door. No,

Speaker 1 not going to happen. So, war game.
Shall we play a game of thermonuclear war? Terminator. Short circuit.

Speaker 1 Short circuit. Remember, Johnny 5 is alive.
The little cute movie.

Speaker 1 I remember that movie. Her, of course, 2013.

Speaker 1 My favorite Sashina.

Speaker 1 mission impossible but then my favorite as i realized oh man night rider everybody wanted to talk to their car i i'm sorry david i can't get there right now i haven't started my engine yet max headroom star trek x-files black

Speaker 1 headroom a classic mr robot i mean we have been so preconditioned for this that it's no wonder now she mentioned star trek they had the talking computer back in the 1960s yes computer so it doesn't surprise me.

Speaker 1 Anyway, I would say if you're having conversations.

Speaker 1 Working.

Speaker 1 If you're having conversations with your chat GPT or any chat bot, you have been biohacked and you need to check yourself.

Speaker 1 Working. Working.
You need to check yourself.

Speaker 1 You watch, this is going to be.

Speaker 1 This will be headline news within six months. And then, and of course, well, we need to regulate this.
No.

Speaker 1 No, take the phones away from your kid, put them in a drawer. I'm all in with you on this, John.
Put it in a drawer. You're all in, but you have not done it.
Because I'm not a retard.

Speaker 1 I don't, I don't, I'm not.

Speaker 1 Boy, you're calling me a retard. Yeah, kind of.

Speaker 1 No, I mean, it's like,

Speaker 1 I can balance myself.

Speaker 1 You know, it's like,

Speaker 1 I'm a boomer. I'm an adult boomer.
So I'm not falling for this. You got a nasty note, I saw.
I did.

Speaker 1 Oh, one of our producers said that you've sold out.

Speaker 1 You should still represent yourself as a millennial. Now they've got nobody on the show to represent the millennials.
No, I'm not a millennial. I'd be Gen X.

Speaker 1 Nobody to represent the Gen X. You're right.
Nobody to represent the Gen X. Now you've sold out.
You're just another boomer like John. You should go back.
Go back. You're on the cusp.

Speaker 1 Go back to Gen X. Go back.
I didn't see anybody stepping up and defending me.

Speaker 1 Uh-uh. No.
Gen Xers. They can't.
They haven't got enough backbone to do anything, those Gen Xers. Gen Xers are actually the cool ones.
Everything after Gen Xers is the one.

Speaker 1 I thought the millennials are cooler. I like the Z's, the Zoomers.

Speaker 25 And that was your boomer update.

Speaker 1 Wait, don't. I like the Zoomers.
Sorry, they have this one in. You're over the hill.
We'll be done sooner if you'd shut your mouth. Okay, boomer.

Speaker 1 I'm kind of embracing it now. I'm just like, just

Speaker 1 go with it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Literally, I posted that on X. If you're having conversations with your chat GPT or any chat bot, you've been biohacked.
The number one comment, okay, boomer.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's kind of trite at this point. It's cliched.
You know the guy that I played on. Do it with something new, people.
The guy that I played on the last show

Speaker 1 where he,

Speaker 1 you know, the chat GPT all of a sudden became,

Speaker 1 was channeling stuff to him from a spiritual nuther world.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that guy. And yeah, so there were, there were two other clips that went with that.

Speaker 1 I didn't even play him because once he was like, the chat bot said, well, you need to eat some mushrooms and go to Sedona, California. I figured even you wouldn't take it seriously after that.

Speaker 1 So I got an email from somebody saying, You didn't play the whole thing. The guy went to Sedona.
And just

Speaker 1 I got this email too. Yeah, and just and just like the guy was promised from his from his chat bot, a red hawk appeared.
I said, the guy was on shrooms.

Speaker 1 You could have said an angel will appear. He would have believed it.
Yes, true. But then this is one of our producers.

Speaker 1 He says, I'm not saying this is real, but you can't deny something is going on here. There is some kind of connection.

Speaker 1 Hold on. Some kind of connection.
You're getting to the, I think you've come close to a voice, a new voice. Oh,

Speaker 1 I don't know if I can do it now. What was the voice?

Speaker 1 I don't even know how to describe it, but

Speaker 1 it's anxious, kind of freaky guy.

Speaker 1 It's a type of freaky guy that's not like the stoner. It's a freaky guy who's enthusiastic and nuts.
You don't understand.

Speaker 1 There's something going on here. They're getting downloads from another dimension.

Speaker 1 That's better. You got to work on anything.
Yeah, you shouldn't have said anything.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 it'll come back to you.

Speaker 1 You have these things.

Speaker 1 You channel them. Yeah.
But I think that people are looking for some kind of actually, in the legendary words of Lonnie Frisbee, there's a whole generation out there just looking for God, man.

Speaker 1 That's what people are doing.

Speaker 1 They want some spiritual connection.

Speaker 1 Oh, well, the chat GPT will provide it. That's the scary part.
I don't know. Is it scary or is it maybe a good thing? Well,

Speaker 1 once you get them hooked on the chat GPT, then you can go into the system and then control the masses. And they'll all vote Democrat.

Speaker 1 Well, that's what you got to do. You got to get them to vote Republican.

Speaker 26 Nah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, this all-vote Democrat thing is a real issue.

Speaker 1 Anyway, that's what the schools have managed to pull off. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So then we had not one, not two, but three

Speaker 1 bills pass

Speaker 1 during crypto week. Crypto week.

Speaker 1 And of course, you heard about this.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 Before you go on with crypto week. Crypto week.

Speaker 1 I just want to read. I think I have it right here.
Yeah. Some email that came in

Speaker 1 that you should be aware of.

Speaker 1 I don't know anything about it. But it's an email from some one of these things.
I ended up blocking trade, something or other, investment stuff.

Speaker 1 And he guy says, this is important. He's about Washington's first ever Crypto Week is here.
Crypto. And it goes on and on and on.
Then it says, Larry

Speaker 1 Benedict's Bitcoin skimming strategy, this is something you should know about. can make you 6x, 9x, and even, I don't know why they skipped to 22x, more money from the same Bitcoin moves.

Speaker 1 So you can make 6X.

Speaker 1 So if you're doubling your money, you can be 12X. It'd be 12X.

Speaker 1 Or 22, which would be 40, a 40 banger, a 40 bagger. 40 bagger.

Speaker 1 So, you know, I'm just, you want me to pass? I'll have this for, I'll forward this to you. John, it's okay.
You can ridicule me all you want. I didn't ridicule.
I'm not ridiculing you.

Speaker 1 I'm ridiculing Benedict.

Speaker 1 I don't care about Benedict.

Speaker 1 So Crypto Week was anything but about crypto. It was all about the stablecoin.
Today, Mark Sabe. This, by the way, is our Secretary of the Treasury, Scott Besant.

Speaker 1 And here we go.

Speaker 37 Today marks a seminal moment for digital assets and global dollar dominance, with President Trump signing the Genius Act into law.

Speaker 37 This bill provides the fast-growing stablecoin market with the regulatory clarity it needs to grow into a trillion-dollar industry. Stable coins represent a revolution in digital finance.

Speaker 37 The dollar now has an internet-native payment rail that is fast, frictionless, and free of middlemen.

Speaker 37 This groundbreaking technology will buttress the dollar status as a global reserve currency, expand access to the dollar economy for billions across the globe, and lead to a surge in demand for U.S.

Speaker 37 treasuries, which back stablecoins. The Genius Act is a win-win-win for everyone involved.
Stablecoin users, stablecoin issuers, and the U.S. Treasury Department.

Speaker 37 I want to thank President Trump for his visionary leadership in shepherding this bill into law and Congress for rapidly advancing this critical legislation.

Speaker 37 By expanding financial freedom and reinforcing dollar dominance, stablecoins will play a critical role in making America great again.

Speaker 1 So, a couple things about this that I'd like our people to know because there's a lot of misinformation.

Speaker 1 And I have a question. Go ahead.

Speaker 1 Can Russia use these things? Yes. In fact, that is the intent.

Speaker 1 The intent is the dollar dominance that the stablecoin is used everywhere, preferably outside of America, but of course it'll be used in South Africa. So Russia can use these things.

Speaker 1 So after being kicked off of Swift, Swift is irrelevant. They'll still do the same deals, only they have to use stablecoin.
Even better. The deals will be the same.
Yes, even better.

Speaker 1 It would actually be cheaper for the Russians because the stablecoin system is a,

Speaker 1 I would call it a workaround

Speaker 1 that is superior to Swift if it works. Oh, it works.
It's already in place. There's 400 million people using stablecoin.
It works. This is a complete

Speaker 1 get the Russians back into the international global market. Everybody.
Everybody. Now, remember, who runs

Speaker 1 Russians? Who runs Swift? Who runs Swift? Europe, the EU runs Swift. We don't run Swift.
The EU, this is a F-U-E-U. F-U-E-U.

Speaker 1 F-U-E-U.

Speaker 1 So Russia, anybody can use the stable coin,

Speaker 1 and there is no KYC.

Speaker 1 This is a very important part of it. No Kentucky what? No, know your customer.
So I can send you a stable coin or you can buy something from me.

Speaker 1 And I don't have to know where that stable coin came from. This is a complete end around

Speaker 1 all of that stuff. Yeah, but don't you want to know your customer if you're a salesperson?

Speaker 1 Details, my friend. Details.

Speaker 1 If you have $10 million,

Speaker 1 you too can become a stablecoin issuer.

Speaker 1 You have to report every month. You got to say, okay, we've got enough treasuries.
It's only for short-term treasuries. So nothing over, I think,

Speaker 1 70 days or something? Have it in one of these. It is 90.
90, maybe. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So that's the Genius Act. Then they passed the Securities Clarity Act, which says, hey, these aren't commodities except for Bitcoin.
And then

Speaker 1 the most important one I don't think got signed, and that's the Anti-CBDC Surveillance Act,

Speaker 1 which is a way of saying, well, we don't want the Federal Reserve involved in our gambit. So

Speaker 1 they can't all of a sudden produce

Speaker 1 a central bank digital currency, which would then be an obvious surveillance coin.

Speaker 1 That was what you'd call it.

Speaker 1 I'm sorry? That's what you'd call it. Yeah, surveillance coins,

Speaker 1 the spy coin.

Speaker 1 But from what I understand, that that is now going to be put into

Speaker 1 a different bill that the Senate is working on. So people are a little wary about that.

Speaker 1 But this is exactly what we discussed for months here. This is a complete change of how this is your new...
We're moving from the petro dollar into the

Speaker 1 stablecoin dollar. And I think it's a very interesting move.
We'll see what happens. I have no idea

Speaker 1 if it's good or bad. I'm not on the line.

Speaker 1 I'm smelling another podcast. Yeah,

Speaker 1 I mean, we'll have to cut this podcast by one a week because I got all these other podcasts I got to do.

Speaker 1 You're laughing, but it may not be that funny.

Speaker 1 No, it's like the way I see it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You could do these these other podcasts, but it's like your Keith Richards or your Mick Jagger doing solo albums. It doesn't make any difference.
You got to come back to

Speaker 1 the No Agenda show because that's where the real action is. Mick Jagger had a pretty successful solo career.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but yeah, but

Speaker 1 he doesn't go out on a solo career. He doesn't pack it to 100,000 people

Speaker 1 at a time to do his solo act. But I get that big advance on the label deal.
And I get to do songs with David Bowie. So

Speaker 1 dancing in the streets. So, I mean, what about my artistic? Is David Bowie still alive? No, he's dead.
But what about my artistic freedom, John? I mean, this is not all about money.

Speaker 1 I mean, I know you think differently, but for me, it may just, I just may have to be able to talk about different things.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's why you go out and do your, you know, do your little other podcasts, your little 2.0 podcast, your, your pedophile podcast.

Speaker 1 What are you going to call the pedophile podcast anyway? I'm not going to do a pedophile podcast.

Speaker 1 That's that's really, you are setting me up for failure now by just by just saying that's what it is. I'm not going to do that.

Speaker 1 I'm going to talk about our sick culture podcast. True crime.

Speaker 1 There's the money. Guess what? I'm not going to ask you for any help or any advice.

Speaker 1 You shouldn't.

Speaker 1 I wouldn't either.

Speaker 1 Speaking of

Speaker 1 people who are hanging on way too long to their careers and will say anything to not have to go out on the road.

Speaker 24 All right, deadly flash floods in Texas, ravaging storms in the northeast, sweltery heat waves, and all of this, the past month, the past month rather, has brought a disastrous onslaught of extreme weather impacting every aspect of our lives, even music.

Speaker 24 Music. On Wednesday, the Steve Miller band, an iconic rock star

Speaker 24 and band,

Speaker 24 who has been performing since the 60s, canceled his band's long-awaited 31-concert concert North American tour.

Speaker 7 In an Instagram post, Miller shared that,

Speaker 24 I'm quoting now: the combination of extreme heat, unpredictable flooding, tornadoes, hurricanes, and massive forest fires make these risks for you, our audience, the band, the crew unacceptable.

Speaker 24 You can blame it on the weather.

Speaker 7 The tour is canceled.

Speaker 1 Okay, first of all, name two songs by Steve Miller Band.

Speaker 1 Can you name two?

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 Mercury 49.

Speaker 1 Oh, obscure. Good one.
Well, I used to hear him play it all the time.

Speaker 1 He used to play free every Sunday at the park across from the police department in Berkeley with them when he had Boss Skaggs as his lead guitarist.

Speaker 1 And so I saw him a million times.

Speaker 1 Macho City, Fly Like an Eagle. Yeah, Fly Like.
He's got a bunch of stuff. Yeah.
He's also unknown to most people.

Speaker 1 Abracadabra?

Speaker 1 yeah

Speaker 1 yeah

Speaker 1 hold on i heard enough of steve this miller band this is

Speaker 1 steve miller blues band originally and a lot of people don't realize he actually has his own camp yeah but see that's at the bohemian grove

Speaker 1 doesn't surprise me that he's all into climate change he's blaming it on climate change well he never said climate change he said weather but they all said they all

Speaker 1 well, hold on. Hold on.
There's a second part to the story.

Speaker 24 CNN's chief climate correspondent, Bill Weir, is joining us right now.

Speaker 1 I want to be... Here's my new podcast.
It's the chief climate correspondent podcast, everybody.

Speaker 24 Bill, that is saying a lot

Speaker 24 that weather is forcing the Steve Miller band to stop, end the tour before it even gets underway.

Speaker 38 And you know what? He has taken a beating online from skeptics who say, actually, it was ticket sales that made this decision, and don't blame the weather on that.

Speaker 38 But this is a very real concern, especially in the outdoor festival industry. Bond, a big festival in Tennessee, for the second time in the last four years, was canceled because of flooding there.

Speaker 38 They haven't announced dates for next year. That's an ominous sign.
A bunch of smaller festivals have canceled this sign.

Speaker 38 And the insurance rates, like you may not believe, Steve Miller, or may not believe in climate change, but insurance companies do. And the increased prices for promoters becoming prohibited.

Speaker 1 This is a a

Speaker 1 real, that's a real thing. I hear it from a lot of my buddies that the insurance for this kind of calamity, climate calamity, is making it unaffordable to go out on the road.
By the way, the Joker.

Speaker 1 Some people call me the space cowboy. Yeah.
Some call me the gangster love.

Speaker 1 I'm on a jet airliner. Come on, man.
You could have, you gave me obscure references.

Speaker 1 Well, that's because that Mercury 49 song, when you watched him live for years and years at the free concert he gave every Sunday,

Speaker 1 that was always his key song. And he comes out with an album, and they make it like it's a psychedelic band when he never was.
They bring out the first album. That song's not on there.

Speaker 1 Well, it's an outrage. That was always his kicker.
That was the song he finished with. That was his favorite tune.
It was blues. It was a blues band.
And all of a sudden, it became a psychedelic band.

Speaker 1 I found that that was ridiculous sellout to me.

Speaker 1 I'm going to do a music podcast. That's what I'm going to do.

Speaker 1 You probably should. So anyway, he has his own camp

Speaker 1 at the Bohemian Grove, and it's got the biggest stage, one of the biggest stages in the whole grove. And he does concerts for all the Bohemian guys.
Really?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I've never been to one, but it used to be pretty special. Yes, you have been to one.
You've been to Bohemian Grove. Yeah, but I didn't go to a Steve Miller concert.
This place is huge.

Speaker 1 It's like an enclave that's a massive, you know, they have stages all over the place. It's all just entertainment all the time and drinking.
It's a bunch of drunks.

Speaker 1 You know, you are really only a few meetings away from being in all of these stories. I mean, somehow you didn't go to the billionaire dinner.
Yeah, no, I know what I'm doing. I'm staying.

Speaker 1 I'm in good shape. Here, Bohemia.

Speaker 1 I'm a lowly podcaster. Nobody's throwing bricks through the window.

Speaker 1 Nobody shoots at me. So speaking of Bohemian Grove,

Speaker 1 this is a news story. Bohemian Grove workers accuse politicians and billionaires of abuse, bad behavior, in wage theft lawsuit.

Speaker 1 That's possible. Yeah, apparently.

Speaker 1 Who was it?

Speaker 1 It was some billionaire. Oh, Koch, one of the Koch brothers, Bill Koch.

Speaker 1 He told one of the, I guess they have housekeeping there at Bohemian Grove.

Speaker 1 What happened to walking around? He was hands on the camp. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You have to hand wash my underwear. And they're very upset about that.

Speaker 1 That story sounds bogus.

Speaker 1 You would know.

Speaker 1 You've been to the Bohemian Grove, not me. No, I don't know anything about it.

Speaker 1 Then I guess we should talk about the big scandal. Oh, this is the big one.
They're going to pick up Obama. They're going to throw him in jail.
Throw him in jail, I tell you. Tulsi's on the war path.

Speaker 39 In my role as the director of national intelligence, I oversee 18 different intelligence community elements. And in the months leading up to the November 2016 election,

Speaker 39 the intelligence community agreed that there was no intelligence that reflected that Russia was trying to hack the election in favor of either candidate.

Speaker 39 The evidence showed, the intelligence showed that, again, Russia did not have either the intent nor the capability to be able to impact the outcome of the United States election.

Speaker 39 So it was very striking when we look back again at the documents that I declassified and released that shows there was a shift in early December, the first week of December.

Speaker 39 Again, another document was produced by the intelligence community, a president's daily brief, that was consistent with every other assessment that was done previously leading up to the election.

Speaker 39 Russia was not, did not, this is after the election now, did not

Speaker 39 attempt to affect the outcome of the American election.

Speaker 39 That was never published.

Speaker 39 Hours before it would have gone into President Obama's President's Daily Brief, it was pulled by a senior-level intelligence official saying that they had to pull it because they had received new guidance.

Speaker 39 The very next day, this meeting was called, a National Security Council meeting, bringing together all of the senior leaders of President Obama's cabinet, and the topic that was put forward was a sensitive matter.

Speaker 39 The tasks that came out of that meeting was coming from President Obama directing the intelligence community, then Obama's ODNI director Clapper, to produce a document, to produce an intelligence assessment that detailed not if, but how Moscow affected the outcome of the election that had already occurred, electing Donald Trump to the presidency.

Speaker 39 This document that they published in January of 2017 was the foundational groundwork that they continued to reference over and over and over again to enact this years-long coup against President Trump.

Speaker 1 Tulsi Gabbard needs to be able to explain this in 30 seconds. She's doing a horrible job here.

Speaker 1 It's like, what? That's an interesting point. Like, what? What did you just say? What?

Speaker 1 Huh? What did she say? Yeah, yeah. She's got to boil this down better.
I mean, this is a good story. It's a great story.
And

Speaker 1 she's not the sound bike girl that she needs to be. No.

Speaker 1 That's a skill. Yeah.
Now, she definitely is long-winded, too complicated, pulling in things that are obscure.

Speaker 1 Basically, if we boil it down, they lied.

Speaker 1 They knew there was no collusion collusion with Russia, and they launched it anyway. And they literally walked Christopher Steele around to all the media outlets and said, listen to this guy.

Speaker 1 He's back.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 Christopher Steele's back. He's back? Is he on TV? He just came out this morning.
He's floating around, doubling down. No, these are lies about me.
Oh, that's great. Well, as a reminder, here's

Speaker 1 Adam Schiff.

Speaker 17 The Russians offered help, which we know they did. The campaign accepted help, which we know they did.

Speaker 17 The Russians then delivered help, which we know they did.

Speaker 40 There is circumstantial evidence of collusion. The case is more than that.

Speaker 40 And I can't go into the particulars, but there is more than circumstantial evidence now.

Speaker 41 You've said on more than one occasion that you've seen ample evidence of the Trump campaign's Russia collusion.

Speaker 41 Last March, you said you had more than circumstantial evidence of treasonous collusion with Russia.

Speaker 1 I've

Speaker 9 certainly said that there's ample evidence of collusion.

Speaker 42 Can you agree that there has been no evidence of collusion coordination or conspiracy that has been presented thus far between the Trump campaign and Russia?

Speaker 17 No, I don't agree with that at all. I think there's plenty of evidence of collusion or conspiracy.
But we do know this. The Russians offered help.
The campaign accepted help.

Speaker 17 The Russians gave help, and the president made full use of that help. And that is pretty damning.

Speaker 1 Any collusion?

Speaker 1 It's going nowhere. It's a good story, but they're not rolling it out right.

Speaker 1 I agree.

Speaker 1 I agree that they're not rolling it out right, and she's not doing the job she should be. I mean, I think it's admirable that she's done this in the first place.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And she's rolled, and she's named names, and she's got everybody kind of cornered, and everyone's freaking out about it, but it's just not being done right.

Speaker 1 I don't know if they're even freaking out about it because it's, you know, it's.

Speaker 1 There's some freaking out about it because they got Steele back, he's coming back, and then they're going on and on.

Speaker 1 I've heard two or three people come on and say, Well, she's, you know, she's what she's saying is not quite true because she's conflating this with that. Well,

Speaker 1 they keep bringing up the Facebook. Oh, Facebook got tons and tons of ads.

Speaker 1 And Facebook, we already know the Facebook story. They got $100,000 worth of ads.
Wait, wait, wait. Nothing.
I think I have that here. Hold on a second.

Speaker 1 And the ads were lame. Yeah, but they were funny.
Was it like $650 worth or something at the end of the day? It was like nothing. They just dropped.
It's like somebody's pocket change. Where was that?

Speaker 1 I know I had the

Speaker 1 clips. We had a number of clips about what they did at Facebook.
No, but I had a recent one. Let me just see.
Oh, a recent one, huh? Yeah. It was one of these.
What was it? This morning thing.

Speaker 1 Hold on. Let me see.

Speaker 1 That's the hoax. Epstein.

Speaker 1 So much Epstein. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 1 Hmm. No, I can't find it.
I was sure. Oh, maybe it was here.
Hold on.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 No. I don't know where it is.
I don't know where it is.

Speaker 1 Geez. Well,

Speaker 1 it might pop up somewhere. I don't know.
I had it where some guy was going, oh, well, here, she was on Maria Bartiromo.

Speaker 13 I was told that that's why they raided Mar-a-Lago, that they wanted to find

Speaker 13 the Trump-Russia documents that indicated there was absolutely no collusion and that there was no evidence to even start such an investigation.

Speaker 13 But Trump didn't have it there in Mar-a-Lago, but that's why they raided his house in 2022.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Okay.
That was probably true.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it could be true. Yeah, it could be true.
Yeah. Something was up.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Hey, what's this 988 stuff you got? I've been looking at it all day, and people should know. John sends me his clips in the morning.

Speaker 1 I don't listen to him. I look at them because I put them into a little JCD clips bin.

Speaker 1 But I want to be just as surprised as you are or just as disturbed.

Speaker 1 Well, I was surprised about it too because I didn't know anything about this. I should have.
I know we both should have, but 988.

Speaker 1 You know, you can dial 988 on the phone. Oh, is this

Speaker 1 the transgender helpline? Well, no, it's a hot. It's a

Speaker 1 mental health hotline that had some transgender stuff, but they had the, but they blast. The whole thing makes no sense when you listen to this report.
It's a bunch of short clips.

Speaker 1 I think one's long, but let's play these clips.

Speaker 14 A few years ago, I started seeing these signs posted all over my city in the metro, in public places, sharing this three-digit phone number, 988.

Speaker 14 That is the National Suicide and Crisis Lifeline. And it was launched on this day, exactly three years ago.

Speaker 35 When you call the line, you reached the 988 suicide and crisis lifeline.

Speaker 14 The first thing you hear is a pre-recorded message.

Speaker 14 Options to connect to specialized support for populations at high risk of suicide.

Speaker 35 If you are a veteran or service member or are calling about one, press one.

Speaker 35 To connect to support for LGBTQI plus youth and young adults, press three.

Speaker 14 Last month, the Trump administration announced it was canceling funding for a 988 LGBTQI Plus service. That service alone has received over a million contacts.

Speaker 35 Otherwise,

Speaker 35 to talk with a counselor, stay on the line or press zero.

Speaker 14 And then what happens is that using nearby cell phone towers, the system routes your call through an existing network of 200 local and state-funded crisis centers and connects you to a trained crisis counselor who works in your area.

Speaker 14 That person picks up the phone. And listen, since launch, the line has been contacted millions of times through calls, texts, and the 988 chat box.

Speaker 14 And a new study led by researchers at NYU and Johns Hopkins estimates that 1.6% of the U.S. population use the line between July of 2022 and December of 2024.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. Now I know what the story is.
They canceled option number three.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but when you listen to the whole presentation,

Speaker 1 it's bullcrap. They never really cancel anything.
Oh, okay. Clips.
The Trevor Project takes care of the whole deal,

Speaker 1 and they still pass it on. It just doesn't mean they just, this is just a typical NPR lame attempt or PBS.
Those are NPR.

Speaker 1 NPR, I think. It's NPR.
It says NPR, but I get mixed up, as you know, when you play the jingle, it explains it. I was not in Bohemian Grove.
I was in a different camp.

Speaker 14 I want to talk about 911. A previous generation, you know, my parents, myself too, was taught to call 911 for any crisis, including a mental health crisis.

Speaker 14 How is a call to 988 for those crises different?

Speaker 34 Yeah, 988 is part of a broader crisis continuum, right?

Speaker 1 Right. Right, right.

Speaker 34 These are people who are trained specifically to deal with mental health crises. The 988 counselors will almost surely be familiar with those services and those teams.

Speaker 34 They may be able to deploy those teams to you directly and stay on the phone with you while those teams are on their way.

Speaker 34 So, sure, in some places, somebody would call 911 and perhaps that 911 center knows about a mobile crisis response team in that same region and they deploy that team

Speaker 34 as opposed to just deploying ambulance or police.

Speaker 34 I think in general, 988 centers have a much richer knowledge and better relationships with mobile crisis response teams and other kind of alternative response models, as they're called, that can be deployed, right?

Speaker 1 Okay. Okay.

Speaker 1 So this is the clip that got me, it triggered me to figuring out what is, why are they even doing this? What is the rationale? What do you think? What kind of propaganda are they trying to slip?

Speaker 1 What NLP kind of mechanism are they using? What sort of sub-text are they telling us here with this bull crap? Trump hates trans kids. Well, no.
Well, that maybe.

Speaker 1 Let me know.

Speaker 1 This is the lead into, oh, you know, we need more social workers and less police. Let's defund the police and let's have more social workers.

Speaker 1 Because 988 is better than 911 when you have a mental problem. And most crime is a mental problem.
So you have people that are out there creating crimes, but all they need is a hug.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 Clip three.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 34 Whereas folks in 911 centers might have less knowledge about those services.

Speaker 14 And you and your colleagues, you set out to determine a number of questions related to who was calling 988.

Speaker 14 And I want to talk to you about the piece you published in the journal JAMA Network Open, where during a 30-month period you found more than 16 million calls, texts, and chats reached 988.

Speaker 14 And one finding that stood out to us was just the fact that 11% of the contacts came from veterans who were then transferred to the Veterans Crisis Line.

Speaker 14 Do you have any further comment about the fact that 11% of the contacts were from veterans?

Speaker 34 I think, you know, I think it can be perceived as a positive finding. You know, the Veterans Crisis line had existed for a while, but I think

Speaker 34 the public-facing communication and marketing about the Veterans Crisis Line, probably not as intense as the communications about 988.

Speaker 34 So there are probably many veterans who didn't really know about the Veterans Crisis Line and learned about 988 and felt in crisis and called and were very pleasantly surprised, perhaps, to hear that option for pressing one.

Speaker 14 And looking at the data, you found geographic differences too, that some places in the U.S. were using 988 more than others.
What did you find?

Speaker 34 Yeah, healthcare in general, but I would say especially mental health care and policy is very state-driven in the United United States. And within some states, there is also a lot.

Speaker 34 It's county-driven, right? So then we have county variation within states.

Speaker 34 So we found that rates of 988 use were much lower in the southern parts of the United States.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because

Speaker 1 in the southern part of the United States, they're not nuts.

Speaker 1 Well, or at least they're not the same kind of nuts. Well, we do have a lot of veterans who need mental health.
Yeah, and they probably get their care elsewhere because that's brought up.

Speaker 1 What clip are we on? For.

Speaker 1 Yes, please.

Speaker 34 So when we ranked, you know, all the states in terms of their rate of 988 use, really big states like Florida and Texas were down there like at the very bottom.

Speaker 34 And we don't really know the why from our data, but we can speculate.

Speaker 34 In prior work and work of others, we found that more conservative folks generally report in survey-based work being less likely to use something like 988 and being less supportive of it.

Speaker 34 It might be a matter of values and a matter of experience that in more conservative parts of the U.S., there might be more skepticism towards mental health treatment and counselors in general.

Speaker 43 Yeah.

Speaker 14 Now, you did a really interesting second study that was published in Health Affairs.

Speaker 34 So, what we did, we asked these 5,000 U.S. adults, so we fielded this survey and we presented people with...

Speaker 1 By the way, this guy's voice is the opposite of that guy from Tennessee.

Speaker 1 This guy's voice is bad.

Speaker 1 And by the way, I deserve an award for editing this clip. No,

Speaker 1 I can hear your edits, and yes, they are good.

Speaker 34 So we fielded this survey, and we presented people with the question of if you or a loved one were experiencing suicidality or a mental health crisis, how likely would you be to turn turn to each one of these sources?

Speaker 34 And we listed five sources, 988, which we defined for them briefly in the survey, a crisis line other than 988, a mental health professional, like a psychologist or social worker or psychiatrist, a friend or a family member or someone in your religious network, right?

Speaker 34 So we asked them this question and we had them rate these things on a seven-point Likert scale. We found these five different groups.

Speaker 14 And what were those five types of groups?

Speaker 34 So we had this group that we called Seek Help Nowhere. We had this group we called Definitely Not 988, Yes, Friends and Family Distressed.
A group we called Seek Help Everywhere.

Speaker 34 A group we called Seek Help Most Places, but not Religious Network. And finally, a group we called Relatively Indifferent, Not Distressed.

Speaker 14 I found it interesting that the Definitely Not 988, but yes, Friends and Family Distress group had the highest levels of recent psychological distress. Why is that?

Speaker 1 Oh, man.

Speaker 1 I would say around here, people go to the the church. They have all kinds of resources, the church, including mental health people.

Speaker 1 Well, it sounds a little fishy, their study. The whole thing, it went on longer, and they went on and on and on and on.
They're just trying to promote.

Speaker 1 But I think the real subtext and the real message is that

Speaker 1 these services are out there and they're good, they work, and that we should have, do we should defund the police? They never say that. But that's what

Speaker 1 the segment where they talked about 911 versus 988, that was the kicker. That was like

Speaker 1 calling the cops because somebody's freaking out. They're going to jump off the ledge or calling 988.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 now

Speaker 1 you went from four to six.

Speaker 1 So that's number five?

Speaker 1 I guess.

Speaker 14 Well, let's talk also about the fact that the Trump administration has cut funding to the LGBTQI plus youth service of the line.

Speaker 14 That is set to go away on Thursday, July 17th.

Speaker 1 So there you go. What they did is they said it should just be folded into the rest.
That's what they did, but okay.

Speaker 14 17th. Once that option goes away, what kind of specialized mental health?

Speaker 1 Here's what I don't understand. I thought

Speaker 1 maybe I'm misunderstanding the service, but I thought that as long as you let your son become your daughter, they wouldn't commit suicide. If you didn't do that, that's when they would commit suicide.

Speaker 1 Wasn't that the big selling point? That was the basic thesis. Yeah.
So would you rather have a live daughter or a dead son? Yeah.

Speaker 14 All support will still exist for LGBTQI plus young people.

Speaker 34 I think the silver lining is, you know, pre-988, the Trevor Project has existed and will continue to exist.

Speaker 34 And they, you know, have funding from other sources as well. That will remain an option.
Right.

Speaker 14 And for anyone who doesn't know, the Trevor Project was one of the groups providing 24-7 support for 988's LGBTQI plus callers. They handled about half of the contacts from this group of people.

Speaker 14 So, zooming back out, just as we close, what message do you think it sends that 988

Speaker 1 does exist?

Speaker 23 What does it do?

Speaker 34 Yeah, no, I think it does a few things. I mean, one, I think it normalizes the fact that humans experience feelings of crisis and suicidality, and that

Speaker 34 the federal government supports this lifeline or the safety net.

Speaker 1 Suicidality.

Speaker 1 Okay, so here's the, so she mentions the Trevor Project,

Speaker 1 which I guess was already picking up the calls from 988.

Speaker 1 And it will continue to do so. So it's got nothing to do with Trump.
It was a gratuitous slam. Oh, Trump took this away and that away.
He didn't take anything away.

Speaker 1 He took officially, he took it out of the process, but it was always covered by it's like the veteran stuff, which is covered by various veterans groups, and they just pass it on to them and they go take care of it.

Speaker 1 And they pass it on to the Trevor group. So this was a bogus story that served two purposes: one, to slam Trump, which is all NPR wants to do, slam Trump A and defund the police.

Speaker 1 That was the whole point of it.

Speaker 1 So that's what it 988. So I just thought it was an interesting propagandistic mechanism used for dual purpose.
Well, let's look at some more of that propagandistic i.e. advertising.

Speaker 1 By the way, we didn't talk about it on the last show, but there was a pretty big story that GLP-1 drugs,

Speaker 1 your Ozempic, et cetera, apparently now boosts testosterone levels. We're getting so close to ED.

Speaker 1 We're getting very, very, very close to that.

Speaker 1 You're hoping.

Speaker 1 Getting very close to erectile dysfunction solved by Ozempic.

Speaker 1 You saved the best for last.

Speaker 1 Well, yeah, eventually, yeah, that'll be the kicker. Yeah, you roll it.
This is a rolling process. You roll out your marketing mechanisms one after the other.
You don't do it all at once.

Speaker 1 You shoot your wad.

Speaker 1 So I was

Speaker 1 blown away by

Speaker 1 this story.

Speaker 1 You know, President Trump was talking about, hey, you know, Coke's going to put sugar back into Coca-Cola.

Speaker 1 And so, of course, we have to not only discredit sugar, but listen to where this big pharma report from CNN with Dr. Elizabeth Kohen really leads to.

Speaker 24 All right, more young women than ever are getting breast cancer. And there's a lot of advice online about.

Speaker 1 What could it be? What changed in the last five years? I'm puzzled.

Speaker 24 What can and cannot help to prevent it? Are they myths or is there real science behind them? CNN's Sarah Seidner sat down with oncologist and author Dr.

Speaker 24 Elizabeth Komen to find the truth about cancer prevention.

Speaker 22 Probably once a week, I hear someone say to me,

Speaker 22 you know, sugar feeds cancer. You really shouldn't.

Speaker 1 eat that.

Speaker 22 Is that true?

Speaker 1 Sugar is not like, yeah, remember, remember, I'm going into the cancer and feeding it, right?

Speaker 15 It's this like one-way train with that MM that you put in your mouth. And that also puts a lot of blame on

Speaker 1 your mouth.

Speaker 15 That being said, excessive sugar can lead to excessive weight. It can change your metabolic function.
And we know that that is not good overall as being what's called a host to cancer.

Speaker 15 So cancer cells are living in your body, and we want to make them inhospitable. We want to make your body and the environment around it less hospitable to cancers.

Speaker 1 So did you hear it? Did you catch it? it?

Speaker 1 Probably not, but maybe what? Okay, well,

Speaker 1 so there's two more clips here, but you know, well, sugar, you know, it's sugar. It's like, you know, it's like,

Speaker 1 that's not feeding the cancer, but it can add to your weight.

Speaker 23 I asked

Speaker 22 a couple of different oncologists, is there a cancer diet? And I was told no twice, except

Speaker 22 when it came to drinking alcohol. Three oncologists said, do not drink alcohol.

Speaker 1 I'm confused.

Speaker 22 Is there a cancer diet or not? If they're not supposed to drink alcohol, it seems like

Speaker 22 there's got to be something to do with nutrition.

Speaker 23 That's a great, great question.

Speaker 15 I'll tell you what I think we know.

Speaker 1 Oh, whoa, whoa.

Speaker 1 That was not a great question.

Speaker 1 That was a great, great question. I've never heard that before.
I thought you'd like that.

Speaker 22 Supposed to drink alcohol. It seems to me that there's got to be something to do with nutrition.

Speaker 23 That's a great, great question.

Speaker 15 I'll tell you what I think we know, and then we'll hit the alcohol point as well. So, we do know that maintaining more of a planned-forward diet with less processed foods, and what is processed foods?

Speaker 15 I mean, there are all these quizzes online about is it processed, is it not processed? In general, if it's got artificial dyes in it, it's more likely to be processed.

Speaker 15 If you can't pronounce a laundry list of ingredients there, it's more likely to be processed than not.

Speaker 15 Now, you want to think about whole foods, whole grains, real foods, and limiting, especially processed red meats, the processed deli meats, the processed salami, the pepperoni, things like that.

Speaker 15 The other piece that we know that can be helpful is alcohol. We know that it's a carcinogen.
We know that there's an association, the more you drink, the higher your risk.

Speaker 15 However, this is not the same risk as having a genetic mutation that leads to, you know, an 85% increased risk of cancer over your lifetime.

Speaker 15 But people ask me all the time, what can I do that's within my control? You can't control what your family history is. You can control what you put in your mouth and how you exercise

Speaker 23 and what you drink.

Speaker 15 And so we do know that there is an increased association not only with breast cancer, but other types of cancers from alcohol consumption because it is a direct carcinogen.

Speaker 1 Okay, so, and here I am like, wow, you're talking about alcohol causing cancer. And that was all just to keep me going throughout this.

Speaker 1 commercial message because here is where they bring it all home and they bring it around to the first clip.

Speaker 22 Does being overweight or being obese make you more susceptible to cancer?

Speaker 1 It does.

Speaker 1 It does.

Speaker 15 So we know that obesity, like tobacco consumption or alcohol consumption, is one modifiable risk factor for

Speaker 1 cancer.

Speaker 15 But we know that it can also be a tremendous battle to fight, right? And so it's something that we really want patients to talk openly with their doctors about, about what are their options.

Speaker 1 What are my options? I'm overweight. What are my options? Can I talk to you openly about that, doctor?

Speaker 15 Are there lifestyle options? What are the medication options that they might be able to have

Speaker 15 so that they can start to decrease their risk from that excess weight?

Speaker 22 Oh my God, this is my fault.

Speaker 23 Like, that's the first thing that stuff jumped into my head.

Speaker 15 And there is so much shame around that that I think we have to really dismantle and compassionately give patients their options.

Speaker 1 Their options, which is going to be Ozempic.

Speaker 1 Let's just shoot these two people.

Speaker 1 Where'd you get this horrible clip?

Speaker 1 That was CNN.

Speaker 1 CNN. Oh, my.
It's just a native ad. Yes.
Although it's done in a horrible wet manner. It's a category ad.
It also brings the temperance thing back, this alcohol nonsense.

Speaker 1 By the way, when it comes to processed foods, here's my tip. Anything that has a barcode or comes in a bag should not be consumed.

Speaker 1 That's your processed food right there.

Speaker 1 I have a, since you brought it back. Do they have barcodes on peaches? They stick them on.

Speaker 1 We got a bunch of, we have a lot of illegal aliens that work at the, at the produce place, and they stick an individual little barcode on each peach.

Speaker 1 The illegal aliens have a barcode, I hear. I stick them on them.
Yeah, it's on their butt. So you brought back a segment, and I'm going to reintroduce it again.
This is the side effects. Side effects.

Speaker 1 You're one of the great segments of the No Agenda Show. Here we go.

Speaker 1 If you have heart failure or chronic kidney disease, Farsega can help you keep living life because there are places you'd like to be.

Speaker 1 Serious side effects include increased ketones in blood or urine and bacterial infection between the anus and genitals, both which may be fatal.

Speaker 1 Bacterial infection between the anus and genitals. That's your taint.
This is no good. Near allergic reactions, dehydration, urinary tract or genitalise infections, and low blood sugar.

Speaker 1 Stop taking and tell your doctor right away if you have nausea, vomiting, stomach pain, tiredness, rash, swelling, trouble breathing, or swallowing.

Speaker 1 Tell your doctor about lightheadedness, weakness, fever, pain, tenderness, redness, or swelling between the anus and genitals.

Speaker 1 Ask your doctor about Farsika today.

Speaker 1 Farsika.

Speaker 1 That sounds like a horrible medication. It sounds terrible.
I would say that that was.

Speaker 1 The way it was balanced, I couldn't hear it. Yeah, I'm sad about that too.
But

Speaker 1 they don't actually want you to hear it. They don't want you to hear it.
Good point.

Speaker 1 Okay,

Speaker 1 one more from the big pharmas.

Speaker 16 So it might be the middle of summer, but now is actually the time to get your kids vaccinated for back to school.

Speaker 16 Health experts say it's important to not wait until the last minute to get those shots either. It takes a few weeks for children to build their immunity up after the vaccines.

Speaker 46 Our four to six-year-olds, when they're first starting kindergarten or first grade, have a variety of vaccines that they need to be caught up on so they're prepared

Speaker 46 in a healthy way and not have to miss school due to vaccine-preventable illness.

Speaker 16 Some of the vaccines include titanium, chickenpox, polio, whooping cough, and measles. There has been a recent rise in measles cases because of a dip in children getting those vaccines.

Speaker 16 All experts want all parents to know that science stands behind the safety and efficacy of traditional and seasonal vaccines.

Speaker 1 Science! Science stands behind it. There it is, science.
Science stands behind these vaccines, parents.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 Lord help us. Hey, with that, I want to thank you for your courage.
Say in the morning to you, the man who put the sea in the crisis line.

Speaker 1 Say hello to my friend on the other end, the one, the only mister, John C

Speaker 1 DeVois.

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, good morning to you. All right, good morning to all shifts C boots on the ground, feeding the air subs in the water, and all the dames that waits on you.

Speaker 1 In the morning to the trolls, in the troll room, let me count, don't you move? Here we go.

Speaker 1 2418 trolls tuning in. Peak trollage.
Thank you very much, trolls. They are listening at trollroom.io or on the modern podcast apps,

Speaker 1 which

Speaker 1 are

Speaker 1 this is what you want to be listening on. You don't want to be listening on anything else.
None of those legacy apps. Keep it modern, people.
Go to podcastappsplural.com.

Speaker 1 Value for value, how we run the show. We've been doing it for over 17 years.

Speaker 1 Maybe on

Speaker 1 my new show, maybe I'll just run ads. See if that works better.
Run ads. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, you should. I mean, you might as well, that way you can do a B comparison.
Yeah, pharma ads, you know, get all kinds of stuff. Oh, pharma for sure.
That's where the money is. Tina was listening.

Speaker 1 They're going to go, let's face it, they're going to get kicked off a network television because

Speaker 1 they got to go. They got to go to the

Speaker 1 you.

Speaker 1 i can always get farmer's dog to advertise farmer's dog

Speaker 1 farmer's dog what's not in the refrigerator oh you're an idiot to do that oh kick him out

Speaker 1 uh what are the other pot you know if you have you listened to the radio i mean

Speaker 1 also

Speaker 1 just network or the cable news it's it's 20 minutes an hour of ads

Speaker 1 it's so boring you turn You flip channels and it's ads, ads, ads, ads, ads. Everywhere.
It's ads. It's just insane.
And we're so spoiled because we don't run ads.

Speaker 1 We just thank our

Speaker 1 supporters, our producers, who produce in many different ways by sending us nasty notes. We appreciate that, of course.

Speaker 1 But also no longer go to meetups. This is great.
Your time and your talent is waning.

Speaker 1 And they also support us financially. Time, talent, treasure.

Speaker 1 That's how we like to run this show. And it's been pretty good for us.
Life's been good to us so far.

Speaker 1 And we want to thank the artists who brought us the artwork for episode 1782. We titled that Circularity.

Speaker 1 And this was a good one. This was a Scaramanga original, which he also...
Did you see him animate it later on X? He had an animated version of this. No, I missed it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, where, so this is Scaramanga did an Annie with what we believe to be, might be a typical Annie user.

Speaker 1 And they're sitting on the couch together. And in the animated version, Annie gets up and walks out of frame.

Speaker 1 And then the Annie user with the no-agenda all-seeing eye t-shirt then eats his huge sandwich and just chomps it down. It's Scaramanga, man.
It must have cost him $20 in credits.

Speaker 1 I wonder what that does cost him.

Speaker 1 Well, just ask him. He'll tell you.
Scaramanga, what does it cost to to animate something like that? Because, you know, he started off with the animation of us and the podcast awards.

Speaker 1 And that must have cost him a lot of money. I mean, I don't know what it is.
Well, maybe he's rolling in dough. No, maybe not.
Or maybe he's got a thing going on where he's getting it free.

Speaker 1 That's possible. No, well, eventually it won't be free.
It was a good piece, though.

Speaker 1 At least it was the best one. There were some other ones.
Let me see.

Speaker 1 There was something I liked that you just hated.

Speaker 1 And we had to, let me see.

Speaker 1 Pretty rare.

Speaker 1 Noagenda. Artgenerator.com is where people upload all of their artwork for every single show.
I mean, where people put their prompted artwork up. Oh, I like the dingbat, Annie.

Speaker 1 You didn't like that one. Yeah, I did.
You're right.

Speaker 1 I just thought it was horrible looking. Oh, okay.
Well, see, you hated it. I told you.

Speaker 1 It was horrible. I didn't hate it.
And that was it. Not a hater.

Speaker 1 For some reason, Richard Page decided to put a lot of cell phones in drawers. I'm not sure.
We didn't talk about it.

Speaker 1 There was you on OAN, which was horrible.

Speaker 1 I love it when people go on X, say, yeah,

Speaker 1 I made

Speaker 1 a codeplay version of you and John. It's like, not even close.

Speaker 1 It's horrible. Not even close.
It's amazing. Everything is so boring.
AI has killed art.

Speaker 1 All you do is complain. Yes, because it's killing art.
I like the fat guy and the anime girl. That was okay.

Speaker 1 I mean, but you know, you could have done that with Photoshop. You didn't need to do AI.

Speaker 1 This is absolutely true, but it would have taken a lot longer. Yeah.
That's the key. That's what they're talking about.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's what they've done. They've caved to time constraints.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. People used to spend the whole show working on art.
And then when they see people come along and just prompt something like, screw, I'm not doing this if I'm not getting chosen. I get it.

Speaker 1 It makes total sense. Well, thank you, Scaramanga.

Speaker 1 Good job. It was certainly the best piece.
And again, it all comes down to the concept. No matter how.
Oh, and by the way, he also on that little, on the pennant back there. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He's got that little phrase that we talked about. I saw that.
Yes. I mean, very cute.
Yeah, that was cool. That was cool.

Speaker 1 Let's thank our donors, our executive and associate executive producers. Here's how it works: you can donate any amount at any time for any reason.
That's how value for value works.

Speaker 1 If you get any value out of the show, anything we've said, anything helpful, or just feel better, or you laugh, or whatever, if you want to give back to us, then you do that.

Speaker 1 You put it into numbers, you send it back to us. It's that simple.
Noagendadonations.com. Now,

Speaker 1 as

Speaker 1 part of our Hollywood DNA, we like to give people real Hollywood credit. So, if you come in as an associate executive producer, that means you gave us $200.

Speaker 1 We'll also read your note and you can use that credit for your lifetime. Even use it on imdb.com.
If you don't have one, you can start that and you can be like a Hollywood bigwig.

Speaker 1 If you come in with $300 or above, then

Speaker 1 you become an executive producer of that episode and we will read your note. And we got a beautiful,

Speaker 1 beautiful blessing here from Mike and Silva:

Speaker 1 $2,907.

Speaker 1 Let me see. They sent in a note with that.

Speaker 1 Hold on a second. I got it here.
Where's my note? Here's the note.

Speaker 1 In the morning, gents, coming to you from Rodelben, Germany. So I'm hoping that I get in under the wire for the doctorate credentials.
In retrospect, I've been a douchebag for far too long.

Speaker 1 Please dedouche or dedouch.

Speaker 1 You've been dedouched.

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Speaker 1 As far as Instinite goes, please put $1,004.53 towards my wife Sylvia, making her dame title as Dame Sylvia. Oh, I said Silva, but that was a typo, Dame Sylvia, the protector of our troops.

Speaker 1 She spent over 40 years keeping our soldiers safe, and since 1996, we were tag teaming in this effort until 2007. More stories later.
Please, I do want to know about that.

Speaker 1 For me, the rest goes of my knighthood. I would like to be named Sir Mike the Privileged Taco Salad.

Speaker 1 The story behind this title is: a co-worker showed me a meme of the fact that the phrase white bread was no longer acceptable, and because of my Mexican heritage, I had to call myself Privileged Taco Salad.

Speaker 1 Wow, I'm very woke there in Germany. It It's stuck.
No kidding. What's the little racism amongst friends? All we need is health, karma, and we'll enjoy what is already at the round table.

Speaker 1 Life is rhythm. Rhythm is life.
Rhythm is a dancer. Mike and Sylvia.
Oh, thank you. Doctorates, PhDs for both of you.
And we'll both see you at the roundtable of the Knights and Dames as well.

Speaker 44 You've got karma.

Speaker 1 Adam

Speaker 1 Munzinger in Germantown, Wisconsin. He came in with $1,000.30.26, and he wants a no-agenda PhD in media deconstruction.

Speaker 1 Thank you for your courage, and may God bless you all. All right.
Nice short note. Scott Schreiber comes in with the Bitcoin.
There you go. Executive producer.
I told you it would work.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I haven't seen one cent in the bank account.

Speaker 1 384.47 in Satoshi's 325,154 sats. ITM Gitmonation.
Thanks for all the value over the years.

Speaker 1 On my way to knighthood, I'd like to request for me and my wife some stateside retail distribution karma to help build our luxury children's clothing brand we've been working on for the last years.

Speaker 1 There have been many late nights working and listening to no agenda while our four human resources slept. Check out our clothes at www.bythe riverside.es.

Speaker 1 Buy the riverside.es. Scott Schreiber, Madrid, Spain.
Sincerely, Scott Schreiber. Wow, good luck with that.
Let us know how it goes. I'm going to interdict two executive producers for the

Speaker 1 meetup. From the meetup, yes.

Speaker 1 And one of them dropped off a Satoshi card that I have to figure out how to use.

Speaker 1 What's the name of the card? I don't have it in front of me. Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 This is John Siebert. He's in Albany, actually, California.
Thank you for the no agenda.

Speaker 1 I get a lot.

Speaker 1 This note is all bullet points.

Speaker 1 I didn't notice that. It's funny.
I get a lot out of this show.

Speaker 1 It keeps me informed and entertained. Found the show in 2000.
I wish it had been sooner. I've been contributing to the show mostly.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, 2000. That's not possible.

Speaker 1 We didn't start until 2007.

Speaker 1 But he says 2000, so he's been listening somehow since 2000.

Speaker 1 And he wishes he found it sooner. Yeah, no kidding.
I've been contributing to the show mostly through podcasting 2.0 streams. Ah, there you go.

Speaker 1 I understand your doubts on Bitcoin, but then he sends the thing with a bunch of gear that I need.

Speaker 1 Hit up Adam for some more sats. Over the years, I've donated, and he's got a number here that's pretty astonishing.
And we'll talk about that later.

Speaker 1 So he came in with, I accounted for $393, and he'll be an executive producer. And then the next one, which is a long note, but it's about elevators and worth reading.
And this is from the meetup.

Speaker 1 It's $350

Speaker 1 from Lawrence Wolf, and he's in Oakland.

Speaker 1 And this is,

Speaker 1 I've read, I saw this note. I said, said, oh, it's too long.
I got to read this. And I started reading it.
I said, well,

Speaker 1 this is the kind of information you can get on the No Agenda Show and nowhere else.

Speaker 1 I, as an elevator mechanic with over 18 years of experience, I wanted to comment on Adam's trip to New York and his automator observations. The automated elevators, yes.

Speaker 1 The mode of elevator dispatching that your experience is known as destination dispatch.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 1 The idea has been around for a long time. You'll remember was in Die Hard in 1988 when John McLean walks into the

Speaker 1 Nakatomi Plaza, looks up to his wife's address in the kiosk, and is then directed to the proper elevator.

Speaker 1 Its purpose is people flow control and security. It makes sense

Speaker 1 at locations such as hotels and higher security office buildings. Yes, it negates the need for a car call button as you are directed by the hall dispatch controller.

Speaker 1 Only one button is at the lobby, is the lobby call button. I seem to remember John saying that maybe the reason for it was to prevent kids from pushing all the buttons.

Speaker 1 Now,

Speaker 1 this is the most interesting part of the note. Nobody knows this.

Speaker 1 This is actually prevented by another feature known as anti-nuisance.

Speaker 1 The elevator has a sensor known as a load weigher that determines how much capacity has been attained in the car.

Speaker 1 If too many buttons are pushed for the load detected by the load weigher, the controller will cancel those placed calls.

Speaker 1 Really? So it's some, you know, they weigh and they say, wait, there's not 100 people on this thing. And I hope this elevated your understanding, he says, as a pun.

Speaker 1 He's Sir Lawrence of Dystopia, the Baronet of Maxwell Park. Well, it's kind of interesting because I got a note two shows ago from one of our producers.
Hold on a second. And he

Speaker 1 had a different explanation for the, by the way, it is, of course, bullcrap because you have to press, instead of pressing one button and then a button on the inside, you have to say, I want to go somewhere, then you have to type in the floor you want to go to.

Speaker 1 So it's at minimum, it's one extra button push.

Speaker 1 And let me see if I can find this.

Speaker 1 It was

Speaker 1 one of our producers, I think in Australia. And he said, no, no, the reason for this is so that

Speaker 1 they can put in less elevators,

Speaker 1 which is a huge cost savings. So yes, it does help traffic flow a little bit, but only, so it really doesn't give you any benefit.

Speaker 1 The benefit is they don't have to put in six elevators. They're going to put in four elevators.

Speaker 1 So it doesn't really save you any time.

Speaker 1 Whatever the case. Yes, whatever the case, exactly.
It's a joke. Yeah, it is.

Speaker 1 Sir Cogen. Anyway, he came in with 350.
Thank you very much. Put him on the list.
Sir,

Speaker 1 you're going to have to give him to me later. I will.
Okay. Sir Cogen, National Park, New Jersey, 343.75.
No karma needed. Just been a while since I donated.
It says, Jim, Sir Cojan. Thank you.

Speaker 1 Oh, I'm up again. You are.

Speaker 1 Commodore G in Cincinnati, Ohio, 34375, 1783 was a very good show.

Speaker 1 Oh, no, Commodore G. He says, very good year, is what he says.
Oh,

Speaker 1 I thought he said show.

Speaker 1 You're AI, you're hallucinating. Stop it.

Speaker 1 Michelle Mathra. I'm going to guess.
M-A-T-H-R-E, Michelle Mathra.

Speaker 1 No city provided. 337.20.
And this is a switcheroo for Hans Mathra. Hans.
Hans. And I hope I'm pronouncing that right.
I'll spell it right in the show notes.

Speaker 1 Happy 49th birthday and 23rd anniversary to dude named Ben Hans Mathra from Wife and Son.

Speaker 1 Jarbs.

Speaker 1 Jarbs Karma. And can you see that juice,

Speaker 1 please, as we have a new corp, as we have new corporate overlords?

Speaker 1 Thanks, John, for the best health tip ever. Dryer balls.
Wow. That was a while ago.
Wow, that's going back.

Speaker 1 Well, thank you very much, and we will make the change. Oh, my gosh.

Speaker 47 Can you see that juice?

Speaker 48 Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs.

Speaker 44 You've got karma.

Speaker 1 I guess he refers to a health tip because you don't have to use those softeners. You use the dryer balls.
Yes, yes, the dryer balls.

Speaker 1 Christopher Eisenhart in New Brownfells, Texas, where they used to make a great barbecue. 333 for my 33rd birthday.
It's a birthday call out for himself.

Speaker 1 Additionally, we would like some baby growth karma so we can get our first human resource out of the NICU and bring her home.

Speaker 1 The NICU. Yes, the NICU.
Okay, well, I'll give you some baby karma for that.

Speaker 44 You've got

Speaker 36 Karma.

Speaker 1 We have Evgini, Ez Evgini, Ez Evjueni.

Speaker 1 Ev, I think. Evgwini Damaskin.
It's a very difficult name.

Speaker 1 I don't know. Ev.

Speaker 1 Evie. Evie.
Evie. Evie from Boston.
$250, no note. That gives you an associate executive producership and a double-up donation.
Karma. Double-up Karma.

Speaker 36 Karma.

Speaker 1 Colin Schultz in Willow Spring, North Carolina at $237.

Speaker 1 He's another NICU dad donation. NICU.
Just say NICU. It's NICU.
We say NICU. You're in the biz.
NICU.

Speaker 1 I'm not in the biz.

Speaker 1 $191 for Hozaia.

Speaker 1 $44 for Sir Jacob. 2 for sweet baby Chloe.
Keeping up these little kids' demands that I show up for

Speaker 1 leg day.

Speaker 1 I'm confused, but okay. Hence the name descriptor, John.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 No chickens locarma, keep up the good work. Calipigis

Speaker 1 Colin in Dub Spring, North Carolina. Okay.
Well, I think we got it right. No, no, no.
I doubt it. Frodo and Boots are in Longview, Washington.
ITM gents, Frodo and Boots here from X.

Speaker 1 As promised, oh, yeah, they did promise this. We set up a lucky 33.33 sustaining donation along with, since we are two bird dogs, a row of ducks 222.22 donation.
This is a 222.22.

Speaker 1 We have been trying to provide value to the show by posting and reposting

Speaker 1 donate in your comments through our X account. But we felt that wasn't equal to the value we received from the best podcast in the universe.

Speaker 1 Since we don't have enough followers yet, listeners, please follow us on X at Frodo. The letter N and then boots, Frodo in boots.
If possible, could we please get a Doho

Speaker 1 Nate and a mac and cheese? Yeah, I think we can do that.

Speaker 44 You've got

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Speaker 11 Mac and cheese. Mac and cheese.

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Speaker 11 There you go.

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Speaker 1 Linda Lou Patkin is in Lakewood, Colorado. $200 from her in donations.
And she says, jobs, karma, please. And ask the question, worried about AI?

Speaker 1 Well, for a resume that gets results, tells you a unique story, and highlights the value you bring, go to ImageMakers Inc..com. That's ImageMakers Inc.
with a K.

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Speaker 48 Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs.

Speaker 44 You've got karma.

Speaker 1 I'm going to throw in one more donation from the meetup. This is from Commodore dude named Ben, named Ben, Duke of San Francisco.
He came in with $200, no note. Well, you give him a double up karma?

Speaker 1 Double up karma? Yeah, give him a double.

Speaker 44 You've got

Speaker 36 karma.

Speaker 1 Why don't you do the next one? I'll take the long one. Irvin, Irvin

Speaker 1 Whealdon.

Speaker 1 Whealden in Murray, Nebraska, $200. It's my birthday, $7.20.
Time for another donation. He does this every time his birthday comes around.

Speaker 1 Thank you, John and Adam, for all that you do to keep us all sane. That's a good idea, by the way.
When it's your birthday, remember to donate to the No Agenda Show. $200.

Speaker 1 That's a good way to remember. Yeah.
Do sarcastic, and I'll do Joseph.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Sarcastic the Nomad. He's in Elkhorn, Nebraska.
He came up with 200 bucks. And he says a shout-out to Sir Sootsucker and Sir Kevin Dills.
Haven't heard from him for a while.

Speaker 1 For hosting meetups

Speaker 1 this week. And Travis for the hospitality.
Don't be a meetup denier.

Speaker 1 Show up and join the community. No jingles, no karma.
Sarcastic the nomad.

Speaker 1 And our final associate executive producer is Joseph Dorfel from Smyrna, Tennessee. I'm going to say he's a member of the Dorfels clan.
Quite a musical family there.

Speaker 1 In the morning to you, my fine sirs. I am pleased to announce that baby making karma works.
We know it does. Of course it does.
You have to now name your kid either Adam or John.

Speaker 1 God has blessed us as we are expecting our first human resource. Amen.
Thank you to all of Gitmo Nation for your prayers.

Speaker 1 On another note, I was listening to episode 1780 and heard your discussion on POTS. I had recently heard of this ailment from my wife, who has a co-worker who was recently diagnosed as having POTS.

Speaker 1 When she first told me about it, my first thought was, great, yet another random disease for white women everywhere to flex on us.

Speaker 1 After listening to your discussion, I now realize that it is yet another money-making scheme. It's genius.
The op is upon us. Well, a lot of people disagree.

Speaker 1 I also wanted to thank you for playing part of Eisenhower's speech. Because of that, I went and listened to the whole thing.
What a sad and sorry state our nation is in.

Speaker 1 The public has allowed itself to become ignorant, complacent, uninformed, and unwilling to sacrifice for the sake of a greater future.

Speaker 1 I would go on about how Adam is right about AI, but shall abstain from doing so as this note is already way too long. Keep fighting the good fight, and Godspeed, says Joseph Dorfel.

Speaker 1 And congratulations on the forthcoming human resource. And thank you to these executive and associate executive producers for episode 1783.

Speaker 1 We'll thank the rest of our donors and our supporters in the second segment. That's $50 and above.
We thank everybody who comes in with $50 above,

Speaker 1 although not below that for reasons of anonymity.

Speaker 1 You can go to noagendadonations.com to support us value for value, any amount, anytime you want, whatever you feel is right, whatever you feel is the value that you got from the show.

Speaker 1 Set up a sustaining donation, any amount, any frequency. Noagendadonations.com.
Thank you to these execs and associate executive producers. Whoops, crack.

Speaker 11 I crashed. We hit people in the

Speaker 11 Oh my gosh. Can you see that juice?

Speaker 1 Crashing all over the place there. Crashing.
Crashing. Crashing.
Crashing. Crashing.

Speaker 1 What you got, JCD? What else do you have? You got a couple of things. On the list.
What do you got on the list? Although I now should play

Speaker 1 the juice clip. I'm always thinking, see, that poor woman, she should have been back.

Speaker 1 They should have kept her on

Speaker 1 the

Speaker 1 home shopping. Oh,

Speaker 1 you're right. I forgot about that.

Speaker 1 Cancer research cut back. And this is another one of these things.
Oh, Trump.

Speaker 1 Trump's fault.

Speaker 1 The industry does not want to pick up the tab for

Speaker 1 the re. the research the taxpayers pay for and they benefit from.
We don't benefit from it. We get charged money.
Yes. The taxpayers get nothing out of this.
They get gypped.

Speaker 1 And meanwhile, which is a term that the gypsies were named after, not the other way around. So I can say gypped.

Speaker 1 We get gypped and nobody picks. Nobody steps up.

Speaker 1 We have to step up. The taxpayers have to step up for everything.
This is bullcrap. We had a note from one of our...
producers bitch about our take on this. Yes, your take in particular, I think.

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, my take is what you just heard, and I'm not changing it. You're not changing that.
Let's listen to the PBS take.

Speaker 8 For decades, the National Cancer Institute, or NCI, has spearheaded breakthrough advancements against the disease. Since the 1990s, cancer deaths have been reduced by a third.

Speaker 1 It's an uplifting report you got here, Joe.

Speaker 8 But now the world's premier cancer institute is in the midst of a fierce battle over its future. William Brangham spoke with Rochanapradhan of KFF Health News.

Speaker 2 Rochanapradhan, thank you so much for being here. Can you help us understand the scale of the cuts that are being made at the National Cancer Institute?

Speaker 2 And are they falling in particular areas or regions of that institute?

Speaker 32 Based on what we have heard from scientists who are currently still at NCI and ones who have left, is that the cuts and the upheaval overall that is happening to this agency are unprecedented.

Speaker 32 They have never seen anything like it. There are people who are leaving and also being cut that work on various aspects of cancer research and communication.

Speaker 32 And the second thing is, research money is being cut at NCI and across the board at the NIH.

Speaker 32 So, what you're seeing is very rapid escalation in the amount of money that is being trimmed for studying all sorts of interventions, right, to reduce cancer mortality and morbidity in this country.

Speaker 2 How does the Trump administration explain that?

Speaker 1 Hold on a second. We just heard that if you stop drinking alcohol and take Ozempic, you're going to be okay.

Speaker 1 What more recently? I also noticed something else she said in that little bit, which was

Speaker 1 research

Speaker 1 and communication. No, that's

Speaker 1 about the cuts to the PR people. Marketing.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the marketing people.

Speaker 1 We've heard this before because I think when Kennedy came in,

Speaker 1 they didn't like the way they were messaging and they were doing websites and they were telling people this and that and the other thing. And And they got rid of most of the PR people.

Speaker 1 I mean, the State Department has thousands of PR people. The number of PR people that work in the government get paid well.
It's crazy. It's just outrageous.

Speaker 1 I mean, they're just doing everything, you know, they're just, that's the communications part. Yeah.
Can't they just use AI for that?

Speaker 1 Well, let's hope not.

Speaker 2 How does the Trump administration explain that? Because it seems like funding cancer research and cures for cancer seems like a no-brainer in any administration.

Speaker 32 The Trump administration, in response to our story, they actually said that it was misleading and it's a biased narrative and that they are essentially refocusing the National Cancer Institute's work and it represents a necessary transformation and that the Department of Health and Human Services, which is where NCI ultimately sits, still values and plans to prioritize research into cancer and other health conditions.

Speaker 32 And so that is what they are are saying essentially is necessary

Speaker 32 under the administration's policies and to sort of realign what NCI is doing.

Speaker 1 Yeah, in other words, there's two things about this report, classic PBS.

Speaker 1 No numbers are given. What numbers? What are we talking about? They took a dollar away, $10 away, 1%?

Speaker 1 I mean, what did they take away? She never says. And then they say

Speaker 1 there's a reorg. So the reorg, which got rid of all the communications people, all the PR people, it seems to me, is what it was all about, who are spending too much money on PR.
Let's put it toward

Speaker 1 actual research. How about that for an idea? And no, no, no, she's not buying into it.

Speaker 1 All right, onward.

Speaker 2 And from talking to researchers and clinicians within the NCI, what have they said to you about what the impact of these cuts has been?

Speaker 32 They say that it is harming research severely.

Speaker 32 We had one scientist saying that people will die, that people will die, that people will die because there are life-saving efforts that are being curtailed at this moment.

Speaker 32 I think the other thing that's really important to underscore is

Speaker 32 so many people we talked to inside the government and even outside the government said it is inexplicable why this is being done.

Speaker 32 They don't understand the aim, the objective, because we have seen so much progress in the fight against cancer in this country and around the world.

Speaker 32 But that being said, it is still the nation's second leading cause of death. Only heart disease surpasses it, right? In 2023, which is the most recent data we have, over 600,000 people in the U.S.

Speaker 32 died from cancer, and we still have millions of people that are diagnosed with it every year. And so there's clearly still a lot of work to be done.

Speaker 32 And NCI has contributed an almost immeasurable amount toward reducing cancer deaths in this country.

Speaker 1 But what if it's immeasurable? What is the amount?

Speaker 1 Oh, it's immeasurable. You can't measure it.

Speaker 1 You can't. It's immeasurable.
That's amazing. With what? With what? With what? How have they killed that? No,

Speaker 1 quiet, quiet.

Speaker 1 I want to know. Quiet, slave, shut up.

Speaker 1 Is there some drug that I'm unaware of that I should be taking? That they should be able to do that. Development,

Speaker 1 she's the people will die. This is the talking point that Democrats use for everything.

Speaker 1 USAID is having money taken away. People are going to die.
Yeah, yeah, I know. This is quite annoying.
They use this a lot. But Elizabeth Warren does it all the time now.

Speaker 1 People will die. People will die.
People will die. They will die.
People will die.

Speaker 1 People die.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 2 Does this also impact current cases, people who are living with cancer now being treated for their cancer today?

Speaker 32 I think it does as part of

Speaker 32 widespread firings that HHS carried out earlier this year across the department and many important agencies, among the people who lost their jobs were most of the workers inside of NCI's communications office.

Speaker 32 Those workers were responsible for disseminating really important health information.

Speaker 1 Important health information.

Speaker 32 That includes information like don't drink alcohol and take Ozimpic.

Speaker 32 That is found on cancer.gov, which is a website that is used widely in this country by cancer patients and their families, and also updating resources that physicians and other clinicians who care for cancer patients rely on with the latest research about a particular disease or a particular type of malignancy.

Speaker 32 And so, the fact that those resources are not being updated because most of the workers were fired will have an immediate impact on cancer patients who are looking for information about treatments and research to help inform their care.

Speaker 1 Oh, get a WordPress blog. Listen to this.
So I go to cancer.gov, and there's two big, big

Speaker 1 areas right at the top of this page. On the left, for people affected by cancer, and on the right, for researchers.
Support for the best science underpins everything NCI does.

Speaker 1 Explore our resources to help researchers conduct their work and apply for funding and training opportunities.

Speaker 1 And then they have articles. Why are cancer diagnoses rising in people under age 50?

Speaker 1 If only you could figure out what changed.

Speaker 1 Rapid genetic facts.

Speaker 1 I don't know, man.

Speaker 1 Get answers.

Speaker 1 So, okay, so they need web developers, I guess.

Speaker 1 Whatever. All right.

Speaker 1 Don't worry. Last clip.
Oh, I'm sorry. Last clip is number

Speaker 1 four.

Speaker 2 Does this also impact current cases, people who are living with cancer now being treated for their cancer today?

Speaker 23 I think it does.

Speaker 31 As part of

Speaker 1 that, well, that was number four then. Then we've played it.
Oh, then we must have played it out. We've played them all.
Well, I have a report from the UK,

Speaker 1 which I thought was interesting. They're trying to do this everywhere in the world.
The UK appears, not quite there yet, but appears to have pushed it through.

Speaker 30 In the United Kingdom, they can work, pay taxes, and serve in the military. Now, 16 and 17-year-olds might be able to vote in the next general election.

Speaker 30 These students are cautiously optimistic about the decision.

Speaker 31 I'm happy about it

Speaker 23 because it's always really annoying watching older people vote, but it's not realistically, it's not going to affect them, it's going to affect our futures.

Speaker 43 So,

Speaker 23 yeah, I'm happy about it. But there is that small worry about people who are just going to take their parents' opinions.

Speaker 30 The move fulfils a campaign pledge by the Labour government and brings the whole of the United Kingdom in line with Scotland and Wales, who have already made the change.

Speaker 30 Some Conservative critics have questioned whether young people should be able to vote when they aren't deemed old enough to get married or stand for election.

Speaker 30 But specialists say teens are well informed.

Speaker 50 We know from where other countries where this is introduced is that actually 16, 17 year olds are making decisions of an equal quality to older voters.

Speaker 30 Young people have also expressed concern about misinformation on social media.

Speaker 49 I think it's definitely a problem.

Speaker 1 Like, I know lots of people who are really very impressionable, but I think it is a small minority of people that will actually get affected by far-right or far-left social media.

Speaker 30 The government announced the proposal on Thursday as part of a sweeping reform to the democratic system.

Speaker 30 It will also include extending acceptable forms of ID, improving postal votes, and clamping down on rules on political donations.

Speaker 30 But first, it will have to be scrutinised by parliament.

Speaker 1 Well, it's going going to be very interesting how that unpacks if they actually get it through 16 year olds i don't know it seems seems like 16 year olds i don't like it no i'm an old fart i don't like it

Speaker 1 16 year olds don't know jack

Speaker 1 okay that's and they're just gonna you know they're gonna no no although it could they could be exploited well yeah that's i think that's the idea i mean that's the idea the idea is to exploit them but how you gonna do it no no no social media we will hire back some of those web people

Speaker 1 yeah i have a little uh

Speaker 1 sidetrack i want to go on

Speaker 1 just one clip this is alex i think it's wilkins is her name alexis wilkins the girl who is the uh

Speaker 1 suspicion mossad agent the 26-year-old uh oh uh this is who the the

Speaker 1 patel is dating her patel's date yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah And she's, she's now... Wait a minute, she's a Mossad agent?

Speaker 1 Well, this is what they're saying. Oh, okay.
In fact,

Speaker 1 this guy's Stein. I think his name's Stein.
I can't remember who it is.

Speaker 1 She brings him on the show. She's doing her show remotely.
She has a show. Oh, she has a yes.
She has a podcast. She's highly scripted.
I've seen her. She's.

Speaker 1 Yes,

Speaker 1 it's not spicy. She's a cutout.

Speaker 1 She's a cutout. She's a limited hangout.

Speaker 1 So she's at Turning Point USA. They have a media segment.
I guess they're all bearish podcasting from there. I want to talk about that for a second after we play this clip of her.

Speaker 1 She brings this guy on who talks about her being, she's been, you know, kicked to the curb as a spy, and he has to, and they go and they go back and forth with their, with their lively banter.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 52 Hello, everyone. Welcome to the Rumble studio.

Speaker 1 Oh, no.

Speaker 1 This is what I'm going to do with my new podcast. Hello, everyone.
Welcome back to the podcast.

Speaker 53 Hello, everyone. Welcome to the Rumble Studio at SAS Turning Point USA here in Tampa, Florida.
We are so happy to be here. I'm Alexis Wilkins.

Speaker 53 If you've watched the show before, you know this is between the headlines. We took a brief hiatus, but we are so back moving to a live stream format and very excited to be doing it.

Speaker 53 I have with me Pimp on a Blimp, Alexis.

Speaker 54 On Time 99 in the building, Alexis, I just want to say thank you for having me.

Speaker 1 Oh, it's Alex Stein, Stein99, the guy who goes into

Speaker 1 council city council meetings?

Speaker 1 That guy. Yeah, that guy.

Speaker 54 Brian, in the building, Alexis, I just want to say thank you for having me, but you got canceled this week, and I kind of got canceled yesterday.

Speaker 54 And I think it got revealed that you and I are both massad agents working for Benjamin Netanyahu. So we're toast.
We're finished.

Speaker 51 I think we have to retire.

Speaker 53 No, it's an internet meltdown.

Speaker 54 But you know what's unfair? And I see the attacks on you because, like, obviously, Cash is a very powerful guy, but this is what's unfair. They came after me too.
Like, when my mom died.

Speaker 54 You know, they said that I killed my mom. I'm so sorry.
It's really bad. But my point is, like, with the internet, it doesn't even matter what you say or do.

Speaker 54 You're going to find a conspiracy theorist. And I'm a conspiracy theorist to create a conspiracy about you and share it on the internet.

Speaker 26 You know, it's just

Speaker 54 because you're well known.

Speaker 53 It's in the water. And it's, it's funny because coming from someone who, you know, obviously there's a lot of context here of,

Speaker 5 you know, you know, you know, what's going on in our country.

Speaker 53 And

Speaker 53 I understand that people need a villain I do get it I get that people

Speaker 53 well exactly that's the thing is like they want anything and so they'll pretend that I'm the CEO of Prager you which I'm very much not that's what I see I see they share that thing where it said that and what did you even work for Prager you that long I mean what I mean short form content

Speaker 54 I mean you made some videos for him but once again Dennis Frager is a great guy because he's Jewish now you're a massage spy so it's just kind of a weird thing where if you even have have one crumb, if you work for a Jewish guy, now that means you work for Israel.

Speaker 54 And listen, I hate that

Speaker 54 it's always a conspiracy theories. Like, I hate my last name, Stein.
I actually was baptized. I'm actually a Christian.
Everybody's like, oh, you're this Jewish agent. And I don't like that.

Speaker 1 I apologize for the invention of podcasting. You should.

Speaker 1 This is very because this is actually the typical today's typical podcast. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 A gap, a couple of gas bags going on and on.

Speaker 1 Hello, everybody. Welcome to the Rumble Studio.

Speaker 1 So the question, so you went to an event where Charlie... Now, Charlie Kirk to me is an interesting character because he is one of the great self-promoters of our day.

Speaker 1 He's a great speaker. He's a marketing genius.

Speaker 1 And I don't care much for what he's up to, but he's a marketing genius. And

Speaker 1 you saw him speak. speak, and you say he's a great speaker, and I can believe that because he spends all his time honing his skills.

Speaker 1 And he's also a good debater because he's a master debater, as a matter of fact. Yes, he is.

Speaker 1 Because he gets, you know, he does all these viral videos, he creates his own viral videos of him slamming some poor asshole who comes up and argues with him for a minute. Well,

Speaker 1 this is really his thing, is where he went to college campuses and just went to the shop.

Speaker 1 He's the change my mind guy. No, no.

Speaker 1 No, but no, I mean, he is he's the real change my mind the guy who sits at the table says change my mind which you know that's crowder ugly change my mind kind of thing that's uh crowder yeah crowder but i think this is the real because he argues he puts he's just really outstanding but you say he flies around in a private jet he's you know because the guy's third 27 28 29 maybe i don't know how old he is but this guy's remarkable but why is he get he gets everybody's attention.

Speaker 1 Do people get paid to speak at his events?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 People want to be seen at his events.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 a lot of people here in Fredericksburg, in fact, we've been invited.

Speaker 1 We couldn't go, but we are invited. In fact, we got an invitation from some people at Boot Ranch.
Remember Boot Ranch?

Speaker 1 Boot Ranch, the bar? No, Boot Ranch,

Speaker 1 the $8 million homes at Boot Ranch was $20 million. Oh, Boot Ranch, that area with all those high-end places.
Yes, yeah.

Speaker 1 So Turning Point USA really became

Speaker 1 the thing for wealthy people to donate money to because it was going to be the youth, and I think it arguably was very successful, the youth that were going to change America. And

Speaker 1 to be fair about it, I think putting money into a group that organizes youth the way Charlie Kirk does it is a lot better better than anything the Democrat Party does to organize youth, you know, by cutting off their genitals and giving them blue hair and putting them on TikTok so you can retweet them.

Speaker 1 What happened to your nose ring?

Speaker 1 And of course, he has a very strong biblical element to him because the guy can quote scripture like nobody I've ever seen. Yeah, he's memorized the Bible.
He's really good at it.

Speaker 1 But he also understands it. So when he comes, I mean, you don't want to get into a debate over scripture with Charlie Kirk.
And yes,

Speaker 1 and he's very open about the jet because he does so many events. I think he's on the road 200 days out of the year.
And he goes from event to event to event.

Speaker 1 And so I don't think people are getting paid to show up at the event, but the Turning Point USA, we could probably look him up. Let's take a look at what

Speaker 1 Turning Point brings in.

Speaker 1 A lot of money. Yeah, a lot of money.
And they have extra,

Speaker 1 what do you call it? Here, let me see. TP, let me see if it's under TP USA.

Speaker 1 Here it is.

Speaker 1 There you go.

Speaker 1 Gross receipts. Want to take a stab? 135 million.
No, no, 86 million.

Speaker 1 86 million.

Speaker 1 750 grassroots activists.

Speaker 1 You know, you can pay an extra 10 grand. You get to have dinner with Charlie.
And now,

Speaker 1 I don't think they pay people like Candace because she speaks at a lot of these Candace Owens.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 you want to be seen speaking at Turning Point USA.

Speaker 1 You do. And so I'm sure they fly them in, put them up, take care of them.

Speaker 1 And it's without a doubt, it's a very, very successful group, not just

Speaker 1 for them doing what they do, but politically. I think it's a big deal.

Speaker 1 Maybe. I'm not convinced.
What do you mean? I am convinced this guy is doing a hell of a job of marketing and selling and managing. This is a management issue, too.

Speaker 1 That dad, that dad gum, Charlie Kirk, he's quiet. He's a slouch.
He's no slouch.

Speaker 1 Hey, and yeah, once you get that, actually, I was somebody did a calculation in one time. I was

Speaker 1 saying, what about when do you get the when do you start using a private jet? It's when you get to 50 million. Yeah, that's probably about right.

Speaker 1 And then you use a private jet. And so

Speaker 1 way beyond that. Hey,

Speaker 1 and it's expensed.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, no, it's a write-off, of course.

Speaker 1 What is this NPR food podcast? Anything with podcasting right now? I'm ready for it.

Speaker 1 Maybe I should start a food podcast.

Speaker 1 I think I'm more likely to do that. Yeah.
Okay.

Speaker 1 This is a, I have two ads. These are two NPR ads for what sound like terrible podcasts.

Speaker 1 And so I clip these ads, and here's the food podcast ad. We humans are born into a wondrous planetary chorus.

Speaker 20 But these days, it can be hard to hear anything but the noise of our own species.

Speaker 20 How is this changing us?

Speaker 1 This is

Speaker 1 the podcast listening. Oh, I'm sorry.
I played the wrong one.

Speaker 1 You're right. Yeah, the NPR food podcast ad.
Sorry, here we go.

Speaker 38 American food politics are a mess.

Speaker 55 And ordinary people are struggling to figure out who's in charge, what they're up to, and why.

Speaker 14 One vaccine critic, I think they wrote on X, I still cannot believe that Maha wasted the first 100 days on soda pop.

Speaker 1 I can't believe that either. Welcome to Fort, a podcast about food politics in the Maha age from the Food and Environment Reporting Network.

Speaker 1 Oh, can you imagine anyone listening to whatever they have to say?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 Well the next ad, the other ad, which you play you played at the beginning of,

Speaker 1 is

Speaker 1 a classic. This is a podcast about listening.
Oh, groovy. We humans

Speaker 1 are born into a wondrous planetary chorus.

Speaker 20 But these days, it can be hard to hear anything but the noise of our own species.

Speaker 20 How is this changing us? And how are we changed when we quiet down and listen to the voices of our planet mates?

Speaker 39 We're actually incredibly gifted listeners.

Speaker 29 You know, that is inherent to being a human being. We have the capacity to listen.

Speaker 20 On this season of Threshold, we're going to take you on a journey into the heart of a quiet revolution, a listening renaissance.

Speaker 1 The world is the first storyteller that's told us the story of how to be who we are.

Speaker 6 Listening is who we are.

Speaker 20 And in a time of mounting ecological crisis, maybe listening is how we can find our way back home.

Speaker 14 Find threshold wherever you listen to podcasts.

Speaker 1 Oh, my goodness. Who wants to listen to that?

Speaker 1 Oh, no. No.

Speaker 1 If I saw a podcast like that, shoot me.

Speaker 1 I will. I'll come down there and shoot you.

Speaker 1 Don't worry about it.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 on no agenda

Speaker 1 in the morning. That's right, everybody.
Just listen to No Agenda and you'll be fine. Everything will be okay.
Your world will make sense to you once again.

Speaker 1 We've got a groovy, a groovy podcast, end of show mix coming up with this podcast. Now I'm all confused.
It's a toe tapper. It's a real toe tapper from Nico Syme.
You'll love it.

Speaker 1 We've got Tip of the Day coming up. We do have Dames Knights.
We've got some PhDs, got meetup reports. And John is now going to thank the rest of our value-for-value supporters, $50 and above.

Speaker 1 And before I do that, I'm going to thank a couple of the donors from the

Speaker 1 meetup. From the meetup, who came in with lesser amounts,

Speaker 1 including Will James Robertson. who's got a

Speaker 1 he has some three by five cards that he sent including the one he wrote on, that have stripes across them. There's just these dynamite cards.
I'd like to know where he got them.

Speaker 1 It's a little card you can hear it. Well, you should have asked him.
Oh, I didn't notice it because it was in an envelope, sealed envelope with a note inside, like you're supposed to do.

Speaker 1 Okay. And so I got home.
I found him. Thank you for your quality podcast.
He says, I'm always informed and entertaining. Came in with $101.79.

Speaker 1 Then we have

Speaker 1 Sir Zolbat.

Speaker 1 Looks like. Sir Zolbat Zolbat came in with 110.
Zolbat. Zolbat.
To John and Adam, $110. He's obviously a sir because he's got the seal on the back of the envelope.

Speaker 1 Then the lovely Angela Garcia came in with $100.

Speaker 1 She also makes miniatures.

Speaker 1 And then

Speaker 1 makes miniatures of what? She makes little, she says somehow during COVID, she got into this. She makes these little art pieces that are tiny.

Speaker 1 Miniatures. It's like she uses tweezers and a microscope, and she makes art.
Oh, that's kind of cool. Yeah, I told her that she should sell it to

Speaker 1 those nut balls who build these dollhouses. Yeah, there you go.
Recalcitrent Steve came in with $51.50, but he has a total that gives his wife a dame hood.

Speaker 1 And I have to read the note, obviously, because there's a damehood involved.

Speaker 1 I hope this note finds you well after traveling from Club Mallard to John's house. This JCD meetup donation would have put me over the top for baronet.

Speaker 1 But instead, I wanted to do a switcheroo and credit my wife Rose with a damehood. Please name her Dream Girl Rose of the Sonoma Wino Country.

Speaker 1 I actually have her on the list.

Speaker 1 She needs a dedouching. Okay.

Speaker 1 You've been dedouched.

Speaker 1 So he says, we've been married 18 years in December, God willing, and we've never had a fight. She's been the goal of buying a house on New Year's Day 2025, and she made it happen.

Speaker 1 We bought our new place just over a month and a half ago. She's my designated drivers for many JCD meetups.
I don't know why he needs one. And listens to the show on our road trips.

Speaker 1 She doesn't come into the meetups. She's the best wife and mother in the world.
Love you with all my heart, sweetheart. And at the round table, we have to write these down.

Speaker 1 Give her some hook and ladder Gewertz Traminer. Wait, wait, hook and ladder?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I never heard of it either. Hook and ladder, what? Gewurtzstraminer.
It's a

Speaker 1 gorgeous, spicy grape that makes a beautiful white wine. Traminer, okay.
Gewert Straminer. Filipino lumpia and some

Speaker 1 lightly salted pistachios.

Speaker 1 And then he wants a jingle, boogity boogity, and a house blessings with some F35 karma. And I think that's required by the nature of this note.
Uh, okay. hold on a second.
I wasn't ready for that.

Speaker 1 I'm sorry. Uh, F-35 and a boogity-boogity.

Speaker 1 Uh, hold on a second. There we go.
I'll move that over there. I had everything all set up.
You screwed me up, and you don't even like the boogity-boogity. In fact, you don't, which you do.
I don't.

Speaker 1 I think you did just despite me.

Speaker 44 You've got

Speaker 36 karma.

Speaker 1 There it is.

Speaker 1 Onward with the list.

Speaker 1 Starting with

Speaker 1 Tyler Rapp in Fort Collins, Colorado, $140.14.

Speaker 1 Nathan Cochran in Franklin, Tennessee, one, two, three, four, five.

Speaker 1 Mercy me donation. The Mercy Me donation, and you can count on the CEO of In N Out Burger being there with you guys.
And they're going to help me with my new music podcast.

Speaker 1 I just decided. Good.
I just decided. You just decided.
I just decided.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 it's a strike.

Speaker 1 Oh, there's the strike.

Speaker 1 Bitcoin donation. It's a Bitcoin donation for

Speaker 1 who knows what. It never shows up in the bank account yet.
Maybe they're holding the money. I have no idea, but it's $120.84.

Speaker 1 Travis Moore in Gibbonsville, North Carolina, $100. That's a birthday donation.
Go bills, he says. I don't know why he said that.
He's in North Carolina. Matthew Mer Merlino, Matthew P.

Speaker 1 Merlino in Sandy Springs, Georgia, 100.

Speaker 1 Jason Maher

Speaker 1 in Vancouver, Washington, 100. Nathan Trewick in San Antonio, Texas, 90.
Cole Gregory in Amherst, Ohio uh 84.38

Speaker 1 Sir Leighton Sir Leighton Lehron Lehron oh Leyron I'm sorry Sir Lehron in Dotham Alabama 8009

Speaker 1 it's a boot Kevin McLaughlin the Duke of Luna lover of American melons 8008

Speaker 1 Iron Poynter in Union Kentucky 7903 Alan Huffman in Urbondale Iowa 7176 That's a

Speaker 1 68.09 donation plus fees.

Speaker 1 Dame Becky in Arlington, Washington, $69.96.

Speaker 1 Jennifer Rain in Snoqualamy, Washington as a tongue twister, $69.35.

Speaker 1 The first Rust, oh, sir, first rust in Rock Island, Illinois, $65.80. That's the Gen X donation

Speaker 1 officially. Yep.
Nathan in Toronto, Ontario, 63.62.

Speaker 1 That's a birthday call out coming up. Sir Kevin O'Brien in Chicago, A6006.
Strike again.

Speaker 1 Another strike donation from someone.

Speaker 1 I don't know how we're going to do these. We should probably just accumulate them and use

Speaker 1 that. No, but they need to do is they need to send us a note.
No, they do. They need to send us their names.
Yeah. And you send a note with a name, please.
But then, yeah.

Speaker 1 And they have to associate with a very specific amount of money. That's very possible.
They know how to do it. They just aren't doing it.
They're just like, here's, take my money.

Speaker 1 But what's your problem?

Speaker 1 Well, what I'm saying is if you have strike, strike, strike on the spreadsheet, just put them into one.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. Yeah.
One listing.

Speaker 1 Dean Roker, 5510. Betty Boo in Dayton, 52.72.

Speaker 1 Steve Hall, 52.72. John Rochester, New York, 5272.
Dame Lacey, 5272. She's in Lake Mills, Wisconsin.
Scott Lavender

Speaker 1 in Montgomery, Texas. 50.
Oh, these are 50s. Okay, we're at the 50s.
Let's do them one at a time. Name and location.
Starting with Scott, then Terence Boyer in Tuscola, Illinois.

Speaker 1 I never heard of that place. Andrew Gusick in Greensboro, North Carolina.
Michael Sikora in New Richmond, Wisconsin. Anonymous in Silver Spring, Maryland.

Speaker 1 A lot of people emailed me about this. Ear mold? Yeah, people were very concerned.

Speaker 1 Well, don't wear headphones. You won't have to worry about it.
But, you know,

Speaker 1 you could wear in-ear

Speaker 1 headphones. You won't get ear molds.
Yeah, we have an inventor in our midst who has done some made with MAMS. They're going to cost a fortune.
But he usually shows up at the meetups with

Speaker 1 active

Speaker 1 cohort, and they didn't show up.

Speaker 1 The meetups are great. Renee.

Speaker 1 Renee Bernhardt's Gruter

Speaker 1 in St. Gallen, Switzerland,

Speaker 1 50, and she's last on the list, or he. It's probably he.
Renee.

Speaker 2 Renee in Europe is usually a he.

Speaker 1 And we want to thank all these people for making the show 1783.

Speaker 1 A good show. It's a pretty good show.
Yes. Well, of course, because we are the best podcast in the universe, not just the pretty

Speaker 1 pretty good podcast in the universe. We're the best podcast in the universe, and everybody knows it.
Everybody in Franklin, Tennessee knows it.

Speaker 1 And thank you to these supporters, and thank you to everyone who came in under $50. We don't mention those for reasons of anonymity.

Speaker 1 And of course, our executive and associate executive producers, go to noagendadonations.com where you can support us value for value, any amount, anytime, whatever the show is worth to you, send it back to us.

Speaker 1 That's how it works. Value for value.

Speaker 26 Go there. It's a birthday back.

Speaker 1 Slave. Go there now.

Speaker 1 Travis Moore wishes his smoking hot wife, Anna, a happy one. She celebrated yesterday.
Irvin Weldon celebrates today. Nathan from Toronto celebrating a birthday today.

Speaker 1 David Kechta, end of show, Mixer Extraordinaire. Happy birthday to his girlfriend, Rose Shin, turns 39 tomorrow.
Michelle Mathra,

Speaker 1 her husband, Hans, is celebrating, and he turns 49. And Christopher Eisenhardt turns 33.
Happy birthday to these birthday boys and girls from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe.

Speaker 1 Not one, not two, but we have three PhDs that we are handing out. You better get in on this item quick.

Speaker 1 Hear my home shopping network lingo there. You better pick up on this item quick because we're running out.
It's going to be over. What, end of this month? Is that when the PhDs really go?

Speaker 1 We've got two shows left, I think. So, Mike, Sylvia, and Adam, Adam Munziger, all become PhDs in Media Deconstruction.
Congratulations to the three of you. Go to noagenderings.com.

Speaker 1 Let us know where we can send your PhD, an official, beautiful PhD certificate with embossed stuff and a ribbon and the whole thing. It's a beautiful piece.

Speaker 1 And what name you want us to put on it, and we will gladly send that out to you. Two dames, two knights.
And that means I've got the extra big blade out today. If you can grab your blade, Joe.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I got a big blade.

Speaker 1 She's saying.

Speaker 1 Rose, Sylvia, Thomas, Flanagan, McCall, and Mike, step up on the podium. All four of you are about to become knights and dames here at the No Agenda Roundtable.
I'm very proud to pronounce the KP as.

Speaker 1 Dame Dream Girl Rose of the Sonoma Wino County Country. Dame Sylvia, the protector of our troops, Sir Finn McCool, Mountain Man, and Sir Mike, the taco, the privileged taco, I should say.

Speaker 1 Privileged taco salad. For you, we've got hookers and blow, rimp boys, and Chardonnay, hook and ladder, gawuch, traminer, and Filipino lumpia, and lightly salted pistachio.

Speaker 1 Along with that, we've got sparkling sider and escorts, ginger ellen gerbils, and of course, we have the mutton and the mead.

Speaker 1 You should also go to noagendarings.com and you can take a look at the handsome No Agenda Knight and Dame ring that is portrayed there.

Speaker 1 It's a signet ring, so when you give us the address and your ring size, we'll send it off to you, along with a certificate of authenticity, as always, and a bunch of sticks of wax so you can seal your important correspondence.

Speaker 1 And welcome to the roundtable, the No Agenda Knights and Dames.

Speaker 37 No

Speaker 1 yeah the no agenda meetups they still are a thing although according to me they're dropping off so you better get out to them uh otherwise you know if you don't go to your meetup the meetup may stop and then you'll be sad you wouldn't want that to happen these are producer organized events so anybody can do them And we always suggest that you send this a meetup report.

Speaker 1 Let us know how it went. If possible, add your server to the meetup report.
And this is the Northern Silicon Valley Get John Out of the House meetup report.

Speaker 1 In the morning, this is Sir Recalcitrant Crazy D the Second at the seventh JCD meetup. And we're passing penis wine aerators all around this place.
Hold on a second.

Speaker 1 You did not tell me about the penis wine aerators.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 We have a woman who's a wine expert,

Speaker 1 Cynthia Cynthia Kirk. She was there with these,

Speaker 1 I would say, phallic wine aerators. And she, by the way,

Speaker 1 I got into a discussion with her about wine because when you get someone who claims to be a wine expert, there was one at Decant.

Speaker 1 You do the back and forth with them to see how good they are. She knows wine.
She's a very talented

Speaker 1 wine drinker, taster. And she works for a winery.

Speaker 1 She has a palate. She has a good palate?

Speaker 1 I would think so.

Speaker 1 I'm just guessing. I mean, we didn't drink wine, but she sounds like she knows what she's talking about, so she's a good wine person.

Speaker 1 But she's also got this company called Naughty, and she makes this kind of these

Speaker 1 wine aerators that are shaped like a phallus. And the wine and it aerates the wine.
You know, you stick it in the bottle.

Speaker 1 It was the hit of the show. Sounds like it.
It sounds like it.

Speaker 1 It's rude. Yes.

Speaker 1 It's a party product. It's one of those things you have a dinner party, you do the one with this thing in there.

Speaker 1 Look what you got there. I see what you're doing.

Speaker 1 No, I'm sorry. It reminds me of, do you ever seen these glasses, these

Speaker 1 Groucho Marx glasses with the eyebrows? And instead of the big giant nose, it's a big dick. Have you seen those? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Level that we're at. I got you.

Speaker 1 Hey, Sir Robertson of Two Sticks, and I'm glad to be here. Thank you.
This is Sir Lawrence of Dystopia, Baronet of Maxwell Park. I bought one of those penises and I'm very satisfied.

Speaker 1 What, she was selling them?

Speaker 1 Yes, she had a few to sell. Yeah.
Oh, goodness.

Speaker 1 That's what you want. Ben named Ben, Duke of San Francisco.
I'm beginning to have penis envy right now.

Speaker 1 Joe Wall North Idaho, glad to be here.

Speaker 1 Yeah, look, I mean, this is Sir Julian, Baron of the Santa Cruz Mountains, hanging out with the new grand star of OAN.

Speaker 1 Sir Zulbat of Windsor here.

Speaker 2 I finally found my car keys and I made it to the meetup.

Speaker 1 Sir Aaron, Knight of the Strawberry Fog, ITM.

Speaker 26 Scott Cunningham from Mountain View. In the morning.

Speaker 1 Sir Montauk, enjoying a nice day at Club and Mallard.

Speaker 24 Angela Garcia from San Francisco in the morning.

Speaker 1 I should have caught this.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm trying to escape.

Speaker 1 These guys are all nuts.

Speaker 1 In the morning, everybody. In the morning!

Speaker 1 All right, Fort Wayne, Indiana had a meetup. Here's their reports.

Speaker 51 Adam and John, this is Shannon from Fort Wayne. We hope this meetup finds you well.
Everybody here is having a good time. In the morning, Dame Trinity, having a great time at

Speaker 51 Don Hall's Tavern.

Speaker 51 In the morning, John and Adam, Sir PBR Street Gang. Hey, Adam, keep up the faith.

Speaker 51 No agenda, John. It wouldn't hurt you to go to Mass.

Speaker 51 The Ohio Blug just checking in in Fort Wayne, Indiana. And the Blokes Sheila from Hicksville, Ohio, here with you in Fort Wayne, Indiana, too.
This is Jared. I really like Hicksville, Ohio.

Speaker 51 Shelly from Fort Wayne. Thank you for your courage.
This is Mike from Fort Wayne.

Speaker 37 Checked everyone's browser history. Everyone's good to go.
No spooks here today.

Speaker 51 Foam finger number one. In the morning.

Speaker 1 And our final meetup report comes from New York City.

Speaker 11 This is Dan Franco, sir. I'm not a smoke, hosting the New York City Manhattan No Agenda Meetup at Wog Uglies Gravacy, Thursday, June 26, 2025.

Speaker 41 Indeed Morgan, this is Jana. After seven long years in Berlin, Zeutschland, she's back, baby, better than ever.

Speaker 11 Hey, Tom, in the morning, live from the Home Depot on 23rd Street in New York City. We're all waiting for John Dvorak to pick us up.
We're ready to work.

Speaker 47 In the morning, it's Dep. We're at Pug Uglies.
And Adam, thank you for accepting my make-a-wish request. I'm so excited to see you on July 21st.

Speaker 11 What? Thank you, Lord. This is Sir Spoonmaker coming to you from New York City.
I'm the only one with the night ring here, and they kissed the ring.

Speaker 11 But I'm still pretty sure in New York City, we're all gonna die.

Speaker 56 Zero Sum Zero Six, No Authority, living my best life on my worst behavior.

Speaker 11 Yo, what up?

Speaker 18 We're at the Roosevelt Hotel for the New York City meetup. Having a good time here.
Thank you to all the producers.

Speaker 11 This is Ern from Plug Uglies here.

Speaker 18 I'm the bartender. I just served the No Agenda crew today.

Speaker 11 They're awesome.

Speaker 11 Really nice people.

Speaker 11 Solid fucking drinkers.

Speaker 11 Great time.

Speaker 1 All right. You got your server in there.
Very good. Those are the reports.
And of course, we have a couple of meetups to round out the month of July on the 25th.

Speaker 1 Victoria, British Columbia in Canada, Anaheim, California on the 26th. Columbus, Ohio on the 26th.
And Alpharetta, Georgia on the 31st. There's plenty of space on that calendar at noagendameetups.com.

Speaker 1 This is where you find the first responders in a real emergency. Connection is protection.
Go to a No Agenda Meetup. You can find them all at noagendameetups.com.

Speaker 1 If you can't find one near you, start one yourself.

Speaker 26 It's easy and always a party.

Speaker 26 Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days.

Speaker 26 You want to be where you won't be triggered or hell lame.

Speaker 26 You want to be where everybody feels the same.

Speaker 1 That's right, everybody. The party continues right here on your No Agenda Show with a great toe-tapper of an end of show mix coming up.

Speaker 1 We have John's tip of the day, and man, I get so many complaints about your AI ISOs, and I always yell at them in all caps, email John. Why they say, man,

Speaker 1 they're killing the show, it's no good.

Speaker 1 Why don't you email John? Does anyone ever email you about killing the show? They're at the very end. Well, they hate it.
They really hate it.

Speaker 1 How many people are we talking about? One guy wrote. Thousands, thousands of people.
Thousands, holy crap. Thousands.
All right. Thousands.

Speaker 1 It was about 10 people. Yeah, so you prompted an ISO,

Speaker 1 I guess. I'm just seeing it's an ISO podcast.
So I presume. No, I'm not doing any more AI.
That's not AI. Okay, I'm going to listen to it now.

Speaker 23 So you can understand the world, wherever you get your podcasts.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 go back to to ai that was no good no no i'm not doing ai anymore i'm going to do this mediocre end the show clips there's another one i couldn't quite clip because they stepped all over it it turns out that the emmy awards has half the nominees for various shows are a about about uh podcasters

Speaker 1 yeah man kristen bell's a podcaster

Speaker 1 oh yeah series of the murders in the buildings about a two crime podcast there's a couple others and where are we where where's my

Speaker 1 podcast? We're not doing so much. Where's my Peabody? Where's my Peabody? Where's my Pulitzer? Whatever it is.
Pulitzer. No, yeah.
No. Yeah.
No. Yeah.
No. No.

Speaker 1 No, it's the Peabody. Peabody.
Peabody. There you go.

Speaker 1 That's the best part. Here's my end of show ISO.
Is this the first one? Good. Good.

Speaker 1 Do it.

Speaker 1 I think this is the killer, though, this one. The guy's like an ISO machine.
He is. He is an ISO machine.
Listen to this one. People can't get enough of this show.

Speaker 1 Huh? That's the winner. I knew it was the winner, but the real winner is always going to be John C.
Dvorak's tip of the day.

Speaker 1 Green fast for you and me. Just the tip with JCD.

Speaker 1 And sometimes at home.

Speaker 1 Created by Dana Bernetti. Well, switching gears, we have another product that people should get a hold of.

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It's a leather.

Speaker 1 They do make a leather cleaner, but you want the leather conditioner from a company called Leather Honey.

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Speaker 1 leather bags, leather shoes, leather seats.

Speaker 1 Will it be like butter? Will it be like butter when you use the leather honey?

Speaker 1 It will be dynamite and it doesn't leave a sticky residue.

Speaker 1 It's just a dynamite product.

Speaker 1 And it makes the leather last longer, doesn't crack. Huh.
And do you use it on all kinds of leather? Like your leather. Yes, you can use it on all kinds of leather.
If you've got leather, use this.

Speaker 1 Will it work on leather money? Will it work on my assless chaps made of leather? Yeah, absolutely. They'd be smooth as silk.
There it is, everybody. Tipoftheday.net for all of John's tips.

Speaker 1 Green fast for you and me, just a tip with JCD

Speaker 1 and sometimes at home. Created by Dana Bernetti.
Of course, you can also find them at NoAgendaFun.com for all of John C. Dvorak's tips of the day.

Speaker 1 And if you are listening right now live, then I suggest you stay tuned because we've got just two good old boys

Speaker 1 coming up as we say,

Speaker 1 what do we say? Dad Gum, Dad Gum, those two good old boys, Sir Gene and dude named Ben and Ben, coming up next on the podcast stream. Check them out, everybody.

Speaker 1 Before that, though, we have one solitary single end of show mix from Nico Syme,

Speaker 1 which is, as John Ord described it, a real toe-tapper.

Speaker 1 Thank you very much for listening to the show. Please remember to support us in our value-for-value model at noagendadonations.com.

Speaker 1 And we will return on Thursday for more of your media deconstruction. I'm sure it will involve involve something about President Trump, as it always does.
You think? Probably.

Speaker 1 Coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country, right here in the first German town of Fredericksburg, Texas, really. In the morning, everybody.
I'm Adam Curry.

Speaker 1 And from Northern Silicon Valley, where we're going to start saying Daddy O. I'm John C.
Dvorak. We'll see you on Thursday.
Remember us, noagendadonations.com. Adios mofos, a hoooey hooey, and such.

Speaker 1 When I was a kid, we drank from the hose. No helmets, no apps, just grass-stained clothes.
Now it's filters, feeling anxiety flare. And kids get triggered by the wrong kind of hair.

Speaker 1 We read the news and questioned the spin. Now they scroll fast and let the algo win.
But we got two mics and a podcast plan. Breaking it down like a true boomer can.

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Speaker 1 I said job job job then mailed a check while your crypto crashed on your YOLO vet I got karma stacked and a troll count badge You're still trying to cancel old school chad You trust the feed, we smell the cracks You ride the wave, we cut through the flack Crack pot and buzzkill ride again With a donation shout and a jingle blame

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Sharpton clips and a Fauci slam with a jingle in your ear from Git Belan. Truth's old trend, it just hits hard.

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