1808 - "Bad Fad"

Speaker 1 It's the same can.

Speaker 2 Adam Curry, John C.

Speaker 1 Dvorak.

Speaker 4 It's Thursday, October 16th, 2025.

Speaker 5 This is your award-winning Give On Nation Media Assassination Episode 1808.

Speaker 1 This is No Agenda.

Speaker 11 Reporting from the front lines and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country in FEMA region number six.

Speaker 16 In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.

Speaker 1 And from Northern Silicon Valley, where we're all saying the same thing: recycling's a scam. I'm John C.
Dvorak.

Speaker 18 It's Craig Bottom buzzkill in the morning well yeah hello 2000

Speaker 21 recycling's a scam we've known this for 20 years longer

Speaker 1 well not so much in california oh no you guys are all in still obviously i'm watching i'm looking at garbage guys go by today on thursday and they're they're replacing all the green cans for a recycle not for recycling but for green you know uh trimmings and stuff you put it in the green can yes so they're taking a green can

Speaker 1 and replacing it with exactly the same green can.

Speaker 25 Well, that seems like your tax dollars at work.

Speaker 1 Well, it's the garbage dollars at work.

Speaker 17 All up and down the street,

Speaker 1 it's the exact same can.

Speaker 1 They're taking the old ones, which are fairly new anyway, and they're replacing it with the new one. It's the same can.

Speaker 27 But that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 28 Now, isn't that city who does that for you?

Speaker 30 Or do you pay your garbage guys separately?

Speaker 1 The garbage guys are separate. Oh, really? We don't have cities to garbage.
No, that says who I was.

Speaker 9 Well, then you should pull them aside and have a little chat with them.

Speaker 1 I was going to go down there, but you know, we're during the show preference. I was.
I was going to ask them, what the hell's going to be? What are you doing here?

Speaker 10 But then I got hired.

Speaker 1 Why are you changing it, swapping out a perfectly good can with another exactly the same can?

Speaker 11 Because that way it'll be reflected on your bill at the end of the month.

Speaker 35 That's obvious.

Speaker 35 Or at the end of the quarter.

Speaker 9 What do you pay for garbage?

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 36 You don't don't know?

Speaker 1 No, Mimi pays it. Oh,

Speaker 37 yeah.

Speaker 38 I think we pay 30 bucks a month.

Speaker 1 Sounds similar. Yeah.

Speaker 39 Good guys, though, because if I forget to put the garbage can out, I can just text them.

Speaker 37 They're like, I'll pick it up later.

Speaker 41 I'll come back.

Speaker 42 Come back later.

Speaker 44 Pick it up on my way home.

Speaker 20 Or if I say, you know, I got some junk here.

Speaker 9 Yeah, okay.

Speaker 45 When you want me to pick it up.

Speaker 38 That's the kind of garbage guys I like.

Speaker 1 Oh, our garbage guys do the same thing, but I'm just not getting where they, why they keep swapping out perfectly good cans for the exact same can.

Speaker 48 Well, it could be some kind of environmental regulation they have to adhere to.

Speaker 1 It's the same can.

Speaker 49 I got you.

Speaker 11 It's the same can you're irked.

Speaker 50 I got it.

Speaker 52 Well, I think you should have taken time.

Speaker 48 I would gladly start the show later just to hear you argued with the garbage guys replacing the old cans with new cans.

Speaker 1 Maybe I'll give them a call.

Speaker 41 You should feel free.

Speaker 57 That license should always be free and open to you to do that.

Speaker 58 You just let me know.

Speaker 40 So I went to the front lines yesterday.

Speaker 22 The front line being Austin, Texas.

Speaker 1 Oh, you went to Austin? Why? To get your hair done again?

Speaker 61 Yes, to get my hair done.

Speaker 62 But I also had

Speaker 21 a coffee with a former New York banker,

Speaker 64 who I have not spoken to in quite a while.

Speaker 52 And I've got some updates.

Speaker 1 Did you ask him how Goldman Sachs is doing?

Speaker 14 Oh, crap.

Speaker 41 I forgot about that.

Speaker 66 Yeah.

Speaker 67 When's Goldman going belly up?

Speaker 62 Oh, man. I can't believe I forgot that.

Speaker 1 Years ago.

Speaker 9 No, he's still waiting.

Speaker 68 Yeah.

Speaker 45 Well, did you short Goldman?

Speaker 68 No.

Speaker 31 I'm glad you didn't.

Speaker 30 So, you know, these days he's all into AI investments.

Speaker 71 Yeah, I'm looking at different investments.

Speaker 72 And in particular, he's looking at financial AI investments.

Speaker 22 And I don't know if he actually invests in anything.

Speaker 46 He kind of looks like a hippie these days.

Speaker 38 He kind of, you know, he's got Jesus sandals on.

Speaker 22 He's unshaven. His hair's long in the back.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he sounds like an investor to me.

Speaker 9 Exactly.

Speaker 50 It's like one of those, well, I'm a cool investor, you see.

Speaker 75 I'm a cool guy.

Speaker 22 And

Speaker 60 so he's talking.

Speaker 71 He's talking about how this model understands how the fold protein work.

Speaker 78 I'm like, oh, okay.

Speaker 71 He's like,

Speaker 71 want some more coffee.

Speaker 40 And, but then he says, you know, these guys, most of them really don't have anything, but they have one thing.

Speaker 54 They have a buzzword.

Speaker 55 And of course, I said, what's the buzzword? Can you guess what the buzzword is?

Speaker 9 Quantum.

Speaker 19 Yes, you nailed it.

Speaker 74 You nailed it.

Speaker 11 Quantum.

Speaker 85 He says, but they're not using quantum computers.

Speaker 87 They're doing quantum calculations with supercomputers.

Speaker 68 Okay.

Speaker 24 Yeah, okay.

Speaker 51 Right, right.

Speaker 24 Right.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that makes sense.

Speaker 25 But then, and this kind of folds into the talk with my hair lady.

Speaker 20 He, uh, so he is, uh, let me see if I can say this without revealing his identity.

Speaker 14 Uh, he

Speaker 91 does a lot for non-profits and art stuff.

Speaker 75 Let's leave it at art stuff.

Speaker 79 And so he's helping some one of these art stuff things

Speaker 27 with their finances, I think a secretary or something.

Speaker 8 And

Speaker 22 because he's, yes, he's a Democrat, but he's, you know, he's not an idiot, obviously.

Speaker 38 He still wants to talk to me. I'm sure he's getting as much information from me as I am from him.

Speaker 30 And he says that these people were all in a tizzy because they were trying to schedule their ICE training.

Speaker 1 What is that supposed to mean?

Speaker 22 Literally, training for what to do when ice comes

Speaker 22 to take away their brown people, I guess.

Speaker 1 Take away the paintings.

Speaker 79 No, but think about it.

Speaker 89 This is how insane it's gotten in Austin.

Speaker 9 They're training at art institutions just in case ice comes.

Speaker 9 To take away their brown people.

Speaker 68 Yeah, but but and so, but this was only accentuated. So I'm sitting there with my hair, hair lady, you know, and we're catching up.

Speaker 41 I love love listening to her.

Speaker 1 So she's the one telling you about this?

Speaker 43 No, no, that was the New York, the former New York banker who told me about the ICE training.

Speaker 1 Yeah, okay, so you're with the hair lady now.

Speaker 21 Yeah, so I'm with the hair lady.

Speaker 54 And, you know, we talk, we do our usual like TV shows.

Speaker 53 What are you watching?

Speaker 22 You know, chit-chatting about the dogs and stuff.

Speaker 98 I say, and she's from Syrian descent.

Speaker 52 I say, how about this?

Speaker 105 She's, shh,

Speaker 106 what's wrong?

Speaker 107 No, we can't talk politics.

Speaker 84 It's a politics.

Speaker 50 Have you seen what's what's happening this is your homeland this there's like there's this this shifts made you that's

Speaker 71 i got uh

Speaker 46 got pulled aside the other day

Speaker 31 so what happened well

Speaker 20 you know it was it was to be honest i also said that i had watched the charlie kirk memorial and i got pulled aside and they said you know because she rents a chair you know that's what you do yeah she says uh Well, you know, we're not so sure that you're right for us because we have a feeling you're turning MAGA.

Speaker 111 I mean, this is.

Speaker 1 You're turning MAGA.

Speaker 21 You're turning MAGA.

Speaker 31 So get out.

Speaker 113 I mean, you combine that.

Speaker 114 Get away from

Speaker 1 our generalized acceptance of all people.

Speaker 17 Because we're so liberal.

Speaker 1 We're so progressive. We accept everybody.
So get out.

Speaker 116 Yeah, but you see, this is the problem is because, of course, we're laughing about this and we're calling them nuts and they're calling us nuts.

Speaker 34 And I think we're prime now.

Speaker 79 We're prime in the United States, in one of these cities, not Austin, probably Chicago.

Speaker 117 We're prime for some kind of incident to take place that's going to set a lot of people off and it's going to be messy.

Speaker 107 Because if you listen to the insane pushback, because people have been so propagandized about ICE, well, ICE is

Speaker 11 putting six-year-olds in zip ties, arresting people naked,

Speaker 34 kidnapping, kidnap.

Speaker 88 But I'm hearing this from all over

Speaker 39 my liberal friendscape.

Speaker 24 That's what they've been told.

Speaker 87 They have been told this, and they completely believe it based upon TikTok videos and Instagram reels and guest stuff on X.

Speaker 93 I don't know.

Speaker 123 I haven't been on Blue Sky in a while.

Speaker 21 Yeah, but you're laughing, but it's really.

Speaker 1 I am laughing, and I will continue to laugh.

Speaker 43 It's getting out of hand.

Speaker 124 Tonight, tension is rising as the Trump administration's sweeping immigration crackdown expands. In the last 24 hours, federal agents clashing with residents in Chicago.

Speaker 124 As some protesters threw objects, federal agents deported tear gas on crowds angry about the latest arrest that ended with a crash in their neighborhood.

Speaker 124 Illinois' governor, who's repeatedly said he did not ask for federal help, accusing immigration agents of using strong-arm tactics.

Speaker 127 They're the ones who are tossing tear gas when people are peacefully protesting.

Speaker 31 They need to back off.

Speaker 124 Homeland Security officials say it all began with agents chasing chasing an undocumented migrant who they say had rammed a border patrol vehicle. Agents then crashing into the vehicle to stop it.

Speaker 124 New video shows that the chase then spilling over into a Walgreens, where 19-year-old Warren King says he was shopping. He says when he tried to leave the store, he was tackled.

Speaker 128 He's a citizen!

Speaker 129 He's a citizen! You don't know what's going on, so get the f back!

Speaker 130 He was just saying,

Speaker 130 why are you running? I'm telling them, I'm a U.S. citizen.
I'm here. I'm legal.

Speaker 131 I'm born here.

Speaker 130 So,

Speaker 130 they didn't try to hear none of that, though.

Speaker 124 Community leaders today blasting federal agents.

Speaker 134 And not only undocumented people are being targeted, but also people of color are being racially profiled by these unjust actions.

Speaker 124 And today, the Chicago woman who was shot by federal agents after allegedly ramming her car into their vehicle, today pleading not guilty to assault.

Speaker 124 Mara Mara Martinez, seen in this video in the moments leading up to that alleged ramming.

Speaker 138 Prosecutors say she was part of a convoy tailing those agents.

Speaker 124 David, and a sign of increasing tensions, LA officials are declaring a state of emergency, saying they will offer undocumented migrants financial and legal support as this deportation campaign expands.

Speaker 28 Now, I got a handed to them.

Speaker 9 I mean,

Speaker 43 for all their beliefs, they are completely all in.

Speaker 57 And like, ICE are Nazis.

Speaker 70 ICE are they're criminal themselves.

Speaker 87 There's no background checks.

Speaker 56 These people are crooks.

Speaker 54 They're no good.

Speaker 141 They take great pleasure in hunting people down.

Speaker 45 And so, what are they doing?

Speaker 43 They're using their cars.

Speaker 93 They're using all kinds of things to get in the way of what ICE is doing.

Speaker 21 And it's going to turn ugly.

Speaker 62 It's so odd.

Speaker 142 Have we not been preconditioned for this with that stupid movie, Civil War?

Speaker 9 I mean, it seems like all of this is just happening.

Speaker 60 And now it's only in select cities near you.

Speaker 82 But man, this is a Tinderbox.

Speaker 100 And now we're going to have that no kings after it didn't work last time.

Speaker 98 We're going to try no kings again on, what is it, Saturday?

Speaker 1 Yeah, this coming Saturday.

Speaker 24 Yeah.

Speaker 115 I tuned into their.

Speaker 1 What happened to Blackout, by the way?

Speaker 62 Well, no, Blackout.

Speaker 1 They were supposed to shut the country down.

Speaker 1 Wasn't there supposed to be something else coming up, too? They were supposed to shut the country down.

Speaker 68 They crapped out.

Speaker 27 No, I think No Kings is supposed to be the big one.

Speaker 76 And I tuned into their live webcast.

Speaker 48 They got a pastor.

Speaker 55 They've got all kinds of very big organizations now behind this, Democracy Forward,

Speaker 36 who have they got a lot of money.

Speaker 144 One of the Walmart

Speaker 1 heirs that's putting a lot of money behind this.

Speaker 1 People should

Speaker 1 take note.

Speaker 145 Yeah.

Speaker 36 So I don't know.

Speaker 82 I don't feel good about it.

Speaker 98 My spidey sense is telling me no good.

Speaker 142 And then, of course, we have the worst, the worst Democrat ever.

Speaker 33 The worst one is John Fetterman.

Speaker 146 I'm the only Democrat in my family. I grew up in a conservative part of Pennsylvania, and I grew up, and

Speaker 146 I know and and I love people that voted for President Trump but they are not fascists they're not Nazis they're not trying to destroy the Constitution those things and that's part of another thing

Speaker 146 I refuse to call people

Speaker 146 Nazis or fascists or I would never compare anybody anybody to Hitler in those things and now that kinds of extreme rhetoric is going to continue we're going to be more likely in resulting in extreme kind of outcomes and political violence and doing all these kinds of things.

Speaker 146 Like Charlie Kirk, for me, all I could say is, is like, let people grieve. Give people the space.

Speaker 146 I'm not going to use that terrible thing and that pastic assassination to make my argument and try to put out my views.

Speaker 146 It's like, my God, you know, he's a father that had his neck blown out by a bullet. And now people have forgotten.
President Trump was in my state, was shot in the head.

Speaker 146 And if that would have, could you imagine where our nation would been if he was hit in the same way with kirk uh we really got to turn the temperature down and we can agree to disagree on these kinds of things but right now uh shutting down the government

Speaker 146 i just can't take it that

Speaker 55 by the way he wasn't eating doritos that was his stupid hoodie rubbing up against the microphone

Speaker 68 but uh wow He needs a bodyguard.

Speaker 41 He's got to be careful with that.

Speaker 1 No, he's crazy talk.

Speaker 107 I'm so amazed.

Speaker 1 I'm just an atypical Democrat.

Speaker 21 I'm so amazed. Well, that's what an old Democrat used to be.

Speaker 83 I'm so amazed by this guy.

Speaker 119 You know, we thought he was a moron.

Speaker 21 And all of his speech issues are all gone.

Speaker 22 And, you know, it's like, I

Speaker 103 don't know.

Speaker 1 Some people recover from strokes, but

Speaker 103 he did.

Speaker 1 It's unusual, but it does happen more often.

Speaker 147 But it's kind of telling when he had the stroke and he talked like an idiot.

Speaker 41 It's like, oh, yeah, he's our guy.

Speaker 1 Well, that's when the Democrats liked him now that he's normal they don't like him so much that's my point

Speaker 98 that's my point

Speaker 9 so yeah

Speaker 107 this interesting

Speaker 12 well we'll see it's just you know false flags be easy to kick something off what's what's a few people to to take down the orange man because you know you're turning maga

Speaker 1 well i feel bad about your uh hairdresser oh me too she loves that place she doesn't want to leave there but she she can't.

Speaker 109 And funny enough, she says it's mainly because of conversations I have with you and the former New York banker because he goes there as well.

Speaker 60 So she's having conversations with probably a conservative, more conservative liberal.

Speaker 79 And I guess I'm conservative.

Speaker 9 Christian. Woo!

Speaker 68 That's probably the problem right there.

Speaker 28 And

Speaker 27 now she's, you're turning MAGA.

Speaker 88 Your conversations are not appropriate for the workplace.

Speaker 1 Should have stabbed her.

Speaker 113 That's not a very nice thing to say.

Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 1 but talking about nice things to say, when you started off talking about AI, or not AI, but yeah, AI.

Speaker 1 I did. It brought me

Speaker 106 early.

Speaker 1 It brought me to these clips. Did you hear Tucker?

Speaker 83 I didn't say anything about AI.

Speaker 9 What did I say about AI?

Speaker 52 You're just making it up to get to your clips.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you did. You talked about the banker investing in AI.

Speaker 9 Oh, that.

Speaker 21 Oh, okay.

Speaker 68 Oh, yeah you're right you're right you're right

Speaker 1 and quantum yes

Speaker 60 i was talking about quantum man i'm ahead of ai i'm already where where i'm i'm skating where the puck is going did you hear tucker with

Speaker 1 with our with the guy they had at chat gpt or altman yeah this this came out a couple weeks ago didn't it I don't know when it came out, but a few weeks ago.

Speaker 1 I'm surprised he hasn't been sued over this.

Speaker 42 Yeah.

Speaker 43 Oh, you're talking about the murder stuff?

Speaker 9 Yeah. Yeah.
That's it.

Speaker 52 I'm glad you got these clips because I didn't get them at the time. Like, yeah.

Speaker 101 I thought you'd probably be annoyed by them.

Speaker 1 How would I be annoyed?

Speaker 9 Because it's AI.

Speaker 1 I always like to document slander.

Speaker 83 Because it's AI. I don't know.

Speaker 110 I thought you wouldn't like it.

Speaker 10 I like AI.

Speaker 74 All right.

Speaker 83 Well, let's do these clips then.

Speaker 1 Let me set it up. What happened was Tucker had his

Speaker 1 Altman's mom, or not his mom, but Altman's, the guy who died into Altman's company.

Speaker 22 Yeah, he was on, she was on Tucker months ago.

Speaker 1 Yeah, she was on Tucker and she accused Altman of

Speaker 1 setting up a hit.

Speaker 1 I don't believe that's true,

Speaker 1 but it was a pretty good triggering mechanism for Tucker to accuse him of murder.

Speaker 22 In so many words, yes.

Speaker 1 In so many words. Yeah, okay, he didn't, and he backs off every time.
No, I'm not accusing you of anything.

Speaker 9 However, he did die, and he said you did it.

Speaker 148 There was a note and a candlestick in the other room.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there's no note. That's one of the keys.

Speaker 71 Yeah, that's always a bad sign.

Speaker 1 A bad sign of it being a suicide. Because I guess, I don't know, is do 100% of the people that commit suicide leave

Speaker 1 a going-away note? I don't know. A lot.

Speaker 1 They seem to claim that.

Speaker 1 So I broke it up into four segments.

Speaker 1 And I thought it was

Speaker 1 actionable.

Speaker 1 Well, hold on a second.

Speaker 22 You thought it was actionable when I said that your son-in-law was a deadbeat.

Speaker 36 I mean, there's actionable and actionable.

Speaker 1 I had to. Yeah, I think that was actionable.

Speaker 150 I had to place a retraction.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you did.

Speaker 86 I wasn't getting sued for sale.

Speaker 1 Tucker does a kind of an on-the-fly retraction.

Speaker 1 He plays a game.

Speaker 1 He plays a game. He never laughed during the whole thing.

Speaker 23 Oh, no.

Speaker 1 And I'm surprised Altman did the interview. What was the point? Are people that

Speaker 1 hard up for attention that they, especially a guy like Altman, that they go on Tucker after

Speaker 1 knowing that this is going to happen?

Speaker 64 Well, I think that Altman is so detached from reality that if someone says, hey, man, there's a movement against you that he'll say, okay, I'll take care of it.

Speaker 51 I'll do an interview with Tucker.

Speaker 2 That could be. That could be.

Speaker 82 Yeah. Even though

Speaker 60 this had no legs until he did the interview, as far as I'm concerned.

Speaker 24 I agree.

Speaker 10 Here we go.

Speaker 151 So you've had complaints from one programmer who said you guys were basically stealing people's stuff and not paying them, and then he wound up murdered.

Speaker 133 What was that?

Speaker 9 Also a great tragedy.

Speaker 152 He committed suicide.

Speaker 151 Do you think he committed suicide?

Speaker 152 I really do.

Speaker 9 Have you looked at it?

Speaker 153 This was like a friend of mine. This is like a guy that, and not a close friend, but this is someone that worked at Open AI for a very long time.

Speaker 121 I spent, I I mean, I was really shaken by this tragedy.

Speaker 153 I spent a lot of time trying to, you know, read everything I could, as I'm sure you and others did too, about what happened.

Speaker 133 It looks like a suicide to me.

Speaker 119 Why does it look like a suicide?

Speaker 153 It was a gun he had purchased.

Speaker 14 It was the, this is like gruesome to talk about, but I read the whole

Speaker 14 medical record.

Speaker 153 Does it not look like one to you?

Speaker 151 No, he was definitely murdered, I think.

Speaker 151 There were signs of a struggle, of course. The surveillance camera, the wires had been cut.

Speaker 14 Oh, no.

Speaker 151 He was just ordered, take out food, come back from a vacation with his friends on Catalina Island. No indication at all that he was suicidal.

Speaker 155 No note and no behavior.

Speaker 151 He had just spoken to a family member on the phone. And then he's found dead with blood in multiple rooms.

Speaker 156 So that's impossible.

Speaker 151 Seems really obvious he was murdered. Have you talked to the authorities about it?

Speaker 153 I have not talked to the authorities about it.

Speaker 82 Okay, so now I remember what bothered me about the interview.

Speaker 22 First of all, I think this is, if I recall correctly, the only time you mention what the accusation was was right at the very beginning.

Speaker 79 And that's the most interesting piece.

Speaker 157 I'm sorry for this guy and his family, but you're stealing stuff and not paying for it.

Speaker 49 That's that's the big one right there.

Speaker 143 And then he goes on to say, you know, I spent a lot of time reading about this.

Speaker 15 You have a chat GPT.

Speaker 142 You got Chat GPT 7.0.

Speaker 54 Who's dude?

Speaker 11 Wouldn't you just let your AI tell you what's going on?

Speaker 158 That's funny.

Speaker 65 Just a thought.

Speaker 1 Stealing. Yeah, this is the guy, and he had documentation.

Speaker 25 He had a lot of documentation, apparently, about basically copyright theft.

Speaker 74 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, I mean, all the AI companies are doing copyright theft, but it depends on what your definition of copyright theft is and how it's interpreted and whether and how fair use comes into play and how much is being regurgitated.

Speaker 159 Well, do we need to remind ourselves of the Microsoft guy?

Speaker 1 Why don't you remind us?

Speaker 96 It was, here we go.

Speaker 45 The AI CEO Mustafa Suleyaman.

Speaker 160 With respect to content that is already on the open web, the social contract of that content since the 90s has been that it is fair use.

Speaker 161 Anyone can copy it, recreate with it, reproduce with it.

Speaker 138 That has been freeware, if you like.

Speaker 160 That's been the understanding.

Speaker 160 There's a separate category where a website or a publisher or a news organization had explicitly said, Do not scrape or crawl me for any other reason than indexing me so that other people can find that content.

Speaker 161 That's a gray area, and I think that's going to work its way through the courts.

Speaker 39 So, just a quick side note: it's not a gray area.

Speaker 30 It's called Creative Commons.

Speaker 43 I sued in court over it and was the first one to win a copyright lawsuit using Creative Commons.

Speaker 38 And all our stuff has Creative Commons in it.

Speaker 37 So, no.

Speaker 22 But that's the general thinking in Silicon Valley.

Speaker 116 It's a contract. It's a social contract.

Speaker 1 His whole logic is wrong, including the copyright fair use thing. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Just because you posted the way the copyright laws were rewritten, some years within, I think, the era of the show, they were rewritten in such a way that you only had to put a copyright notice on anything.

Speaker 1 Oh, is that

Speaker 24 automatically copyrighted?

Speaker 50 You write it, it's yours.

Speaker 143 Done.

Speaker 39 We used to think you had to send it to yourself in a sealed envelope.

Speaker 1 Well, that, or you had to send it to the Library of Congress to register it, and you had to put the copyright notice. No, none of that's true.
And so,

Speaker 1 but if you're going to scrape everything, I mean, Google, for example,

Speaker 1 is the, is the,

Speaker 1 way before AI,

Speaker 1 they were taking, stealing entire web pages and putting them on their search

Speaker 1 database.

Speaker 1 And so the entire web was basically had Google had a copy of it. And then they would search that for your search results.
And then there would be excerpts.

Speaker 1 And in the early days, you could actually go and

Speaker 1 take a look at their cache.

Speaker 31 Oh, yeah, the cache.

Speaker 1 Which is a copy of the cache.

Speaker 52 They don't have that anymore? They don't have the cache on Google.

Speaker 17 You know, I'm always looking for it once in a while.

Speaker 1 I don't know what the status of the cache is anymore, but it's not like it used to be.

Speaker 55 Meanwhile, the guy who's actually a non-profit and is trying to do this for good good with archive.org is getting sued the kingdom come.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's being sued left and right, including being sued over his collection of 78s. Right now, archive.org has

Speaker 1 probably the biggest collection of 78 recordings, which are always, which is kind of all passed into the public domain.

Speaker 1 And for all kinds of different reasons, because the copyright written material was always

Speaker 1 used to have a thing in the 30s where the songs, the songs could be played on the radio, but they were protected by a performance type. It was like instead of at copyright, it would be at performance.

Speaker 1 And there were performance rights

Speaker 1 that were owned by the record labels, and that's what these records constituted were performances. Yes.
And it's just

Speaker 1 a very gray area.

Speaker 1 For years, it's always been assumed that these old 78s from the 20s and 30s were were all you could play them without having to worry about anything.

Speaker 1 And so he made a huge collection of them, and somebody's, you know, some record company's got some hair up there.

Speaker 112 It's valuable.

Speaker 17 It's not valuable. It's a joke.

Speaker 23 You value it.

Speaker 1 I mean, I love these old 78s, especially during the era, the dance band and jazz era of the early 30s. And

Speaker 1 when you go on archive.org, because you know of a song and you go to pick it up, and novelty songs were also quite popular.

Speaker 1 You go there and you look at it, and it's got, you know, Bing Crosby's song from 1932, and you look at it.

Speaker 84 Yeah, it's a toe-tapper.

Speaker 1 It would usually be a toe-tapper. And you would look at it, and it would say, played twice.

Speaker 43 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 54 Because when you played it, it would degrade the quality of the disc.

Speaker 1 Certainly, though, no. No, I'm talking about being played on archive.org.

Speaker 31 Oh, oh, huge copyright violation.

Speaker 55 Two people listened to it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, two people, two people downloaded it.

Speaker 122 And it was you doing a browser refresh, basically.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was probably me both times.

Speaker 1 And so, no, many of these have been cleaned up by experts, and some of them are remarkably nice. I mean,

Speaker 1 you can play them.

Speaker 1 The real collectors, I knew a couple of collectors. George Morrow

Speaker 1 of the Morrow microcomputer was a collector of 78s. Jim Watt, a very famous DJ in the Bay Area, was a collector of 78s.
And I knew these guys.

Speaker 1 And they would normally try to find pristine 78s that they'd find here and there and they'd never play them except once.

Speaker 45 Yeah, that's like my Prince picture disc.

Speaker 68 I won't play that either.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because it does degrade because of the needle. Yeah.
And but once it's

Speaker 1 put into a digital form, then you can start messing with it and fixing it and making it sound even better.

Speaker 1 But the point is, is that nobody's listening to this stuff, but he's getting sued over it anyway.

Speaker 99 All right, back to the death case.

Speaker 1 Part two.

Speaker 151 And his mother claims he was murdered on your orders.

Speaker 163 Do you believe that?

Speaker 121 Well, I'm asking.

Speaker 9 I mean,

Speaker 153 you just said it, Sony.

Speaker 35 Hold on a second.

Speaker 110 Hold on a second.

Speaker 57 I just realized looking at the troll room, there is an entire generation that went over their head.

Speaker 86 So 78s, they're small records?

Speaker 37 No.

Speaker 95 No, people don't know about 33 and a third RPM, 45 RPM, 78 RPM.

Speaker 37 Yeah.

Speaker 156 Yeah, we just.

Speaker 105 We just, wait until we hit the troll room count.

Speaker 116 We just lost half of the audience.

Speaker 1 You are probably

Speaker 24 talking about 78.

Speaker 23 Good job.

Speaker 1 Meanwhile, the guy's getting sued.

Speaker 151 And his mother claims he was murdered on your orders.

Speaker 153 Do you believe that?

Speaker 121 Well, I'm asking.

Speaker 9 I mean,

Speaker 153 you just said it. So do you believe that?

Speaker 10 I think that it is

Speaker 131 worth looking into.

Speaker 151 And I don't,

Speaker 151 I mean, if a guy comes out and accuses your company of committing crimes, I have no idea if that's true or not, of course,

Speaker 151 and then is found killed and there are signs of a struggle, I don't think it's worth dismissing it.

Speaker 151 I don't think we should say, well, he killed himself when there's no evidence that the guy was depressed at all.

Speaker 151 I think, and if he was your friend, I would think he would want to speak to his mom.

Speaker 153 I did offer. She didn't want to.

Speaker 14 So

Speaker 41 do you feel that, you know, when people look at that and they're like, you know, it's possible that happened, do you feel that that reflects the worries they have about what's happening here?

Speaker 41 Like people are afraid that this is like...

Speaker 153 I've done too many interviews where I've been accused of like...

Speaker 9 Oh, I'm not accusing you at all.

Speaker 151 I'm just saying because his mother says that I don't think a fair read of the evidence suggests suicide at all.

Speaker 14 They just don't see that at all.

Speaker 1 And I also don't understand why

Speaker 151 the authorities, when there are signs of a struggle and blood in two rooms on a suicide like how does that actually happen i don't understand how the authorities could just kind of dismiss that as a suicide i think it's weird this is how tucker makes two hour-long interviews yeah okay yeah

Speaker 151 yeah

Speaker 1 now i have to my thinking on this is that a guy who steals a bunch of documents from a company he's working for

Speaker 1 uh which is somewhat larcenous even though it's to prove a crime,

Speaker 1 is probably getting himself into trouble in other areas just by his nature,

Speaker 1 which I think could account for his, and it probably was murdered, but not necessarily by Altman's people, because Altman.

Speaker 40 No, you never want it tied back to you.

Speaker 31 He gets one.

Speaker 1 But why would you even care? It's just like you're so cavalier anyway about stealing copyrighted material.

Speaker 1 And you heard the guy from Microsoft that it's like, okay, well, yeah, okay, he proved that we took some copyrighted material off the bottom of the camera.

Speaker 22 They could have discredited him, called him a thief, a liar, a cheater.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there's a lot of ways.

Speaker 51 A lot of things he could have done.

Speaker 52 But that's not Tucker's style, man.

Speaker 51 We got to go for,

Speaker 156 I think you killed him. I think you had him killed.

Speaker 9 I think you had him killed. You understand how that sounds like an accusation?

Speaker 121 Of course.

Speaker 155 And I, I mean, I certainly, let me just be clear once again, not accusing you of any wrongdoing, but I

Speaker 31 think it's

Speaker 41 worth finding out what happened.

Speaker 151 And I don't understand why the city of San Francisco has refused to investigate it beyond just calling it a suicide.

Speaker 153 I mean, I think they looked into it a couple of times, more than once, as I understand it.

Speaker 152 I saw the, and I will totally say when I first heard about this, it sounded very suspicious. Yes.

Speaker 153 Yes.

Speaker 153 Yes.

Speaker 14 And I know you had been involved. And

Speaker 14 you reached out to the case.

Speaker 151 And I, you know, I don't know anything about it.

Speaker 155 It's not my world.

Speaker 156 She just reached out cold.

Speaker 155 She reached out cold. Wow.

Speaker 14 Wow. And I spoke to her at great length

Speaker 155 and it scared the crap out of me.

Speaker 9 The kid was clearly killed by somebody.

Speaker 151 That was my conclusion, objectively, with no skin in the game.

Speaker 158 And after reading the latest report?

Speaker 23 Yes.

Speaker 23 Stop it. Stop it.

Speaker 1 I didn't catch this the first time. Why would it scare the crap out of him?

Speaker 62 That's a good question.

Speaker 116 Borderline, great question, but it's a good question.

Speaker 65 I don't know why it would scare the crap out of him.

Speaker 117 I think that Tucker just does that for effect.

Speaker 47 You know, he's so shocked.

Speaker 65 He's shocked by everything.

Speaker 111 Shocking.

Speaker 31 Yeah, that could be.

Speaker 14 Scared the crap. It's stuck out of me.

Speaker 9 Tucker. It's shocking.

Speaker 164 Look, I'm never getting invited on his podcast, so I might as well just say he's weird.

Speaker 155 She reached out cold. Wow.

Speaker 106 And

Speaker 151 I spoke to her at great length, and

Speaker 155 it scared the crap out of me. The kid was clearly killed by somebody.

Speaker 151 That was my conclusion, objectively, with no skin in the game.

Speaker 158 And after reading the latest report,

Speaker 9 and I immediately called a member of Congress from California, Ro Kana, and said, this is crazy.

Speaker 151 You've got to look into this.

Speaker 155 And nothing ever happened.

Speaker 62 Do you do that, John?

Speaker 53 Do you immediately call your member of Congress?

Speaker 1 And nothing ever happens. The same thing.

Speaker 1 I'm on the same loop.

Speaker 15 But I like how I'm talking about it.

Speaker 9 I immediately called a member of Congress.

Speaker 50 Like, let me get on the speed dial.

Speaker 9 Let me call Ro Canna.

Speaker 151 And I'm like, what is that?

Speaker 153 Again, I think this is, I feel strange and sad debating this and having to find myself to be totally crazy. And you are a little bit accusing me, but

Speaker 153 this was like a wonderful person and a family that is clearly struggling. Yes.
And I think you can totally take the point that you're just trying to get to the truth of what happened.

Speaker 153 And I respect that.

Speaker 14 No.

Speaker 32 Silicon Valley.

Speaker 166 How many times have we heard people talk like this?

Speaker 75 Yes.

Speaker 139 Basically, he's saying, F you, Tucker.

Speaker 100 That's Silicon Valley speak from.

Speaker 78 I can totally see the point that you're coming at, and I totally respect that, which is Silicon Valley talk for F off.

Speaker 9 But I think Huge Memory and his

Speaker 153 family deserve to be treated with a level of respect and grief that I don't quite feel here.

Speaker 151 I'm asking at the behest of his family.

Speaker 153 So I'm definitely showing them respect.

Speaker 36 Oh, yes.

Speaker 143 I'm here representing the family and Rokana.

Speaker 151 And I'm not accusing you of any involvement in this at all.

Speaker 151 What I am saying is that the evidence does not suggest suicide, and for the authorities in your city to elide past that and ignore the evidence that any reasonable person would say adds up to a murder, I think is very weird and it shakes the faith that one has in our system's ability to respond to the facts.

Speaker 107 Okay, so Tucker's going after conspiracy here because he believes that the city of San Francisco is in on it and doesn't want to rock the boat with the big Silicon Valley company.

Speaker 22 And that's where he's coming from.

Speaker 1 I guess that's what he's trying to prove. But

Speaker 1 is OpenAI even in San Francisco, or is that wasn't on the peninsula?

Speaker 145 I don't know.

Speaker 79 The peninsula. What is the peninsula?

Speaker 1 The peninsula is where everything is. It's not in San Francisco per se.

Speaker 21 No, it's San Mateo.

Speaker 1 Yeah, San Mateo. Did you just look it up?

Speaker 41 No, I used to go there all the time to visit a-holes like this.

Speaker 83 Sorry, Raylane.

Speaker 68 You were okay.

Speaker 1 Well, most of it's down further than San Mateo. Yeah.

Speaker 61 Sandhill Road, baby.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you get Palo Alto.

Speaker 24 Oh, Palo Alto is pretty much the center.

Speaker 1 Yeah. All right.
All right. So let's wrap it up with this guy.

Speaker 1 You know, and but this was still baffling to me why Tucker did this at all.

Speaker 1 Because he's like the white knight or

Speaker 1 trying to embarrass this person.

Speaker 105 How about this?

Speaker 40 He is committed to creating X amount of content for his advertisers.

Speaker 89 He has to, you know, and

Speaker 52 content is inventory, and he's always looking for something to do.

Speaker 105 How about that?

Speaker 109 Is that a crazy thought?

Speaker 38 I mean, he had Alex Jones on the other day for two and a half hours.

Speaker 90 He's desperate for content

Speaker 62 and he likes talking to people.

Speaker 116 And most of the time, it's entertaining.

Speaker 110 This, I didn't think, was one of them, but I understand where you're coming from with these clips, and I'm glad you got them.

Speaker 153 So what I I was going to say is after the first set of information that came out, I was really like, man, this doesn't look like a suicide. I'm confused.
This is a very good thing.

Speaker 21 Okay, okay.

Speaker 49 So I'm not reaching, I'm not being crazy here.

Speaker 153 Well, but then after the second thing came out and the more detail, I was like, okay.

Speaker 151 What changed your mind?

Speaker 153 The second report on the way the bullet entered him and the sort of person who had like followed the the sort of likely path of things through the room.

Speaker 9 I assume you looked at this too. Yes, I did.

Speaker 153 And what about that didn't change change your mind?

Speaker 155 It just didn't make any sense to me.

Speaker 151 Why would the security camera wires be cut? And how did

Speaker 151 he wind up bleeding in two rooms after shooting himself? And why was there a wig in the room that wasn't his?

Speaker 151 And has there ever been a suicide where there's no indication at all that the person was suicidal who just ordered takeout food?

Speaker 113 Wait a minute. Wait a minute.

Speaker 55 Could this be a trans thing going on here?

Speaker 32 What kind of wig?

Speaker 62 What was this with the wig?

Speaker 9 The wig is interesting.

Speaker 1 He throws the wig in at the last second, there, which he could have done at the beginning when he had his whole laundry list.

Speaker 7 Yes.

Speaker 1 And the wig that wasn't his.

Speaker 43 This is Tucker doing TC Owen.

Speaker 35 You know, this is true crime.

Speaker 77 True crime really.

Speaker 46 Hey, Tucker, True Crime really gets ratings, man.

Speaker 9 Oh, okay.

Speaker 69 Well, then I'll have the family on.

Speaker 68 I'll abuse them.

Speaker 113 And then I'll go and I'll get an interview with Altman. And then I'll paint it on him, and it'll be true crime.

Speaker 77 It will get lots of clicks.

Speaker 1 You know, you might,

Speaker 1 as glib as you are about that commentary right there. You might be onto something.

Speaker 25 I listen to Tucker's podcast, and it's interrupted frequently by ads.

Speaker 81 It's very annoying.

Speaker 148 You know, most podcasts aren't.

Speaker 22 They just, they're talking like, so you don't think that this was.

Speaker 5 Gold is the way to go, everybody.

Speaker 11 Have you seen the price of gold?

Speaker 9 It's over $4,000.

Speaker 50 No, instead, you just chop right in the middle.

Speaker 143 It's like,

Speaker 27 well, you know, I'm eating these fantastic chips.

Speaker 61 You know what they're made with? They're made with

Speaker 50 tallow, beef tallow, and potato.

Speaker 42 And I have a garage full. They're great.

Speaker 170 Followed by, there's a new kind of dog food.

Speaker 61 It's not farmer's dog.

Speaker 44 No, I got the competition here.

Speaker 43 These guys are better than farmer's dog.

Speaker 61 Do you like nicotine? I love nicotine.

Speaker 19 I love these pouches. It's good for you.

Speaker 41 Nicotine is healthy.

Speaker 44 It's good. And I use it all the time.

Speaker 9 Can you tell?

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 9 who orders DoorDash and then shoots himself?

Speaker 155 I mean, maybe. I've covered a lot of crimes as a police reporter.

Speaker 106 Oh,

Speaker 144 shreds.

Speaker 60 By the way, people don't like it when we slam other podcasters, just so you know.

Speaker 113 They don't like it.

Speaker 89 They're like, man, you're shooting inside the tent, man.

Speaker 9 Don't do that. I've never heard of anything.

Speaker 1 Well, wait.

Speaker 15 Yes, yes, it's true.

Speaker 9 Because I started doing that.

Speaker 1 We do media deconstruction. Yeah, I try to do that.
I consider podcasts part of the media landscape.

Speaker 89 Yes, I'm in agreement with you.

Speaker 45 I'm just letting you know when I started doing that because people were saying, hey, man.

Speaker 1 But you were kind of in that camp early on, I'd say about 15 years ago when I started doing some slams against certain podcasts. You kind of pushed back.

Speaker 34 We were building an industry, bro.

Speaker 24 Okay, you got me there.

Speaker 151 And has there ever been a suicide where there's no indication at all that the person was suicidal who just ordered takeout food?

Speaker 9 I mean, who orders DoorDash and then shoots himself?

Speaker 155 I mean, maybe. I've covered a lot of crimes as a police reporter.
I've never heard of anything like that. So, no, I was even more confused.

Speaker 153 This is where it gets into, I think, a little bit painful, just not the level of respect I'd hope to show to someone with this kind of mental health.

Speaker 125 I get it.

Speaker 31 I totally get it. If you're not a good person, people do

Speaker 153 a lot.

Speaker 9 Like, that happens. For sure.

Speaker 152 People definitely order food they like before they commit suicide.

Speaker 18 Like,

Speaker 9 this is an incredible tragedy.

Speaker 145 And I.

Speaker 153 That's his family's view and they think it was a murder and that's why I'm asking the question if I were his family I am sure I would want answers and I'm sure I would not be satisfied with really any I mean there's nothing that would comfort me in that, you know?

Speaker 6 Right.

Speaker 68 Like so I get it. Right.

Speaker 153 I also care a lot about

Speaker 153 respect to him. Right.

Speaker 153 Okay.

Speaker 89 All right. Your conclusion, your takeaway from this series?

Speaker 1 Pretty much this is your conclusion, which is Tucker's just filling this air, but I think he's opening himself up for some action.

Speaker 21 Nah, from OpenAI? Nah.

Speaker 1 Well, maybe, maybe not. But if I was this guy, if I was Altman, I'd sue him.
Nah. For innuendo.

Speaker 23 He makes him look like...

Speaker 34 He's got other things to do, man.

Speaker 12 Have you been following the

Speaker 1 trillions of dollars? Yeah, maybe.

Speaker 22 Well, he's not collecting anything.

Speaker 107 He's spending it.

Speaker 9 Well,

Speaker 171 yeah.

Speaker 54 Have you? I'm sure you've heard the latest.

Speaker 1 He's enjoying life.

Speaker 24 This is the big news.

Speaker 128 Wow.

Speaker 45 Hey, listen, he wakes up every morning, he looks in the mirror, and he's Sam Altman.

Speaker 71 So I don't know if he's enjoying life. I'm not so sure.

Speaker 1 But the big news.

Speaker 107 Well, the big news is this.

Speaker 172 Chat GPT will soon be able to write erotica for adults. This update was announced by OpenAI boss Sam Altman, who said users who verified their ages would be able to access a wider range of content.

Speaker 172 He said OpenAI, the creator of ChatGPT, ChatGPT, had previously made the chatbot pretty restrictive and that it was less useful slash enjoyable for users with no mental health problems.

Speaker 172 But new tools meant those restrictions could soon be relaxed. OpenAI was sued earlier this year by the parents of US teen Adam Rain who took his own life.

Speaker 172 The lawsuit showed that Adam had discussed his suicidal thoughts with the chatbot. In a statement given at the time, OpenAI told the BBC it was reviewing the filing.

Speaker 172 Both in the UK and the US, there's concerns about what this update will mean for child safety. Written erotica does not require an age verification in the UK under the Online Safety Act.

Speaker 172 And in the US, there's calls for more regulation at all levels. OpenAI did not respond to our request for comment.

Speaker 71 That was from the BBC.

Speaker 95 So this is interesting because as we've identified, it's the only product people actually want and will pay for.

Speaker 100 Like, yeah, I want a sexy chatbot.

Speaker 21 Elon led the way with his

Speaker 69 Annie.

Speaker 106 Annie? Yeah, Annie.

Speaker 68 And now Altman's going all in.

Speaker 30 Here's what he posted on X.

Speaker 31 We made, should I do it with Altman?

Speaker 46 It takes me forever to do it like Altman.

Speaker 141 We made ChatGPT pretty restrictive to make sure we were being careful with mental health issues.

Speaker 16 We realized this made it less useful and enjoyable to many users who had no mental health problems.

Speaker 70 Dude, 90% of people have mental health problems, but okay.

Speaker 60 But given the seriousness of this issue, we wanted to get this right.

Speaker 54 Now that we have been able to mitigate the serious mental health issues and have new tools, we are going to be able to safely relax the restrictions in most cases.

Speaker 45 In a few weeks we plan to put out a new version of Chat GPT, new version coming, upgrade, that

Speaker 166 allows people to have a personality that behaves more like what people liked about 4-0.

Speaker 170 We hope it will be better, exclamation mark.

Speaker 9 If you want your ChatGPT to respond in a very human-like way, or use a ton of emoji or act like a friend, ChatGPT should do it, but only if you want it, not not because we are usage maxing.

Speaker 71 This is a new term.

Speaker 9 In December, what is it?

Speaker 81 Usage maxing,

Speaker 170 which I think is code for making it addictive.

Speaker 1 I guess it is. It would make sense.

Speaker 166 In December, as we roll out age gating more fully and as a part of our treat adult users like adults principle, we'll allow even more, like erotica, for verified adults.

Speaker 24 erotica erotica

Speaker 77 what a term erotica and this leads me to

Speaker 22 actually i got a it was a note from sir hoopensocker

Speaker 61 and he says uh first off i'm not bothered okay whenever i know the opening like that i'm like okay oh yeah it's a giveaway i'm not bothered by your and john's irritation with video podcasts well hold on i don't think we're irritated by video podcasts are we i watch them all the time.

Speaker 121 Yeah.

Speaker 82 We don't want to do one.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there's a big difference between being irritated by them and wanting to do one, which is that they're a pain in the ass and they don't really deliver the goods.

Speaker 9 Well,

Speaker 29 hold on a second because he says, and I respect your take as the creator, which I'm like, what?

Speaker 150 It's capital T, capital C.

Speaker 148 But as a perspective, most of us are visual learners.

Speaker 45 I can't even listen to audiobooks because my attention wanders after a few minutes and I have to rewind.

Speaker 150 Whereas even if it's just two dorks sitting across a desk from each other, the visual

Speaker 89 component keeps me engaged.

Speaker 143 I listened to almost every No Agenda episode three times, and the only Rogan episode I've watched more than once are the Jordan Peterson episodes.

Speaker 46 They are idea dense.

Speaker 54 I learn and remember better with the insipid video element.

Speaker 148 Now, I replied to him.

Speaker 34 I said, Hey, man, I'm sorry.

Speaker 54 That sucks that all this video has

Speaker 42 disabled your learning ability.

Speaker 21 I didn't even say it like that.

Speaker 1 That's what you meant.

Speaker 28 Yeah,

Speaker 143 I was nicer than that, and he took offense to it, of course.

Speaker 20 I said, I didn't mean any offense.

Speaker 1 You meant offense.

Speaker 61 Well, the reason why I.

Speaker 1 You're an offensive guy in a very subtle way.

Speaker 61 No, I'm not.

Speaker 65 But this leads me to a story from a great sub stack, which is titled Everything is Television.

Speaker 11 Wait, let's get back to what he holds.

Speaker 62 No, no, I'm getting to it.

Speaker 50 I'm getting to it.

Speaker 1 You're going to do a weave. Okay.
I'm going to go back.

Speaker 34 I'm weaving, baby.

Speaker 43 Yes, we'll come right back to it.

Speaker 38 So, this leads me to a sub stack that I was reading from Derek Thompson, Everything is Television.

Speaker 73 And he cites and links to a filing by Meta in an antitrust case with the Federal Trade Commission

Speaker 58 about them being a social media monopoly.

Speaker 43 And there's a lot of other things happening.

Speaker 38 Age verification, all the app stores, because we have an app with Godcaster,

Speaker 159 all the app stores are now saying, hey, get ready.

Speaker 102 We're going to have an age verification API.

Speaker 22 There's all kinds of age verification stuff coming.

Speaker 55 I'm sure Meta doesn't like it.

Speaker 46 And here's what they filed.

Speaker 87 Only a small share of time spent on our social networking platforms are truly social networking.

Speaker 93 That is, time spent checking in with friends and family.

Speaker 98 More than 80% of the time on Facebook and more than 90% of the time on Instagram is spent watching videos.

Speaker 88 So they literally say, today, this is the filing, only a fraction of time spent on meta services, 7% on Instagram, and 17% on Facebook involves consuming content from online friends.

Speaker 45 A majority of time spent on both apps is watching videos, increasingly short-form videos that are unconnected, i.e., not from a friend or followed account, and recommended by AI-powered algorithms Meta developed as a direct competitive response to TikTok's rise, which stalls Meta's growth.

Speaker 68 And when I read that, I'm like, well, this explains why we're all becoming idiots.

Speaker 118 We're just sitting there doom scroll, not even using Facebook for for Facebook anymore.

Speaker 21 It's just doom scrolling all day long.

Speaker 111 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. This is.
We have a number of our top-notch, well-known producers that seem to be doing this.

Speaker 45 So, which brings me to a No Agenda classic book, Amusing Ourselves to Death, by Neil Postman.

Speaker 43 Although he was writing about television, it's kind of interesting to go back and look what he wrote.

Speaker 116 He said, each medium, like language itself, makes possible a unique mode of discourse by providing a new orientation for thought, for expression, and for sensibility.

Speaker 79 Television speaks to us in a particular dialect.

Speaker 53 When everything turns into television, every form of communication starts to adopt television's values, immediacy, emotion, spectacle, and brevity.

Speaker 143 Now, I would say,

Speaker 40 you know,

Speaker 40 that's hyperspeed now with these short-form videos.

Speaker 21 In the glow of a local news program or

Speaker 101 outrage news feed, now the viewer bathes in a vat of their own cortisol.

Speaker 21 When everything is urgent, nothing is truly important.

Speaker 45 Politics becomes theater, science becomes storytelling, news becomes performance.

Speaker 60 The results, a society that forgets how to think in paragraphs and learns instead to think in scenes.

Speaker 30 And when I read that, reread that, I thought, podcasting the way we do it is actually fantastic.

Speaker 140 It's good for you.

Speaker 41 It's healthy.

Speaker 88 It trains you to pay attention to something.

Speaker 62 You can actually do other things like walking outside.

Speaker 1 Gardening.

Speaker 61 Gardening.

Speaker 9 Yes, thank you.

Speaker 69 You can do all kinds of watering the lawn, mowing the lawn, you know, just walking while you're listening to a podcast.

Speaker 54 And yes, your thoughts may wander a bit, but

Speaker 81 you'll be learning something.

Speaker 147 And it's just, it's a sad state when the whole world, because look at the MAU, the monthly average users, and the TAM of all of these social media sites, including X, I'm sure.

Speaker 43 It's just all people scrolling videos from people they don't even know or care to know.

Speaker 21 And now with Sora 2, everything is like, I don't even know if that's real.

Speaker 73 I don't care.

Speaker 70 My brain's fried.

Speaker 53 So to serve Hoopensocker, I think it's a great opportunity to try.

Speaker 22 Try to just listen to no agenda.

Speaker 33 And how many times people, you're missing the boat.

Speaker 36 No.

Speaker 62 All we'd have is people

Speaker 165 getting little clips, little clips of us.

Speaker 62 You know, two old dudes with cans and microphones.

Speaker 42 Oh, look at those guys.

Speaker 21 Oh, that guy's got a tick.

Speaker 33 Oh, okay.

Speaker 11 What did they just say?

Speaker 106 Oh, outrage.

Speaker 106 No.

Speaker 11 No,

Speaker 19 we can't share audio.

Speaker 96 No, I don't want you to share audio.

Speaker 107 It's good for you to just sit there and listen to something.

Speaker 102 Audiobooks are still pretty popular.

Speaker 9 So luckily.

Speaker 1 Luckily, there's a lot of people who can drive your car while listening to them.

Speaker 29 Well, you can drive your car while listening to a podcast.

Speaker 9 Of course. Yeah.

Speaker 107 All this is good.

Speaker 118 So I was just thinking, this is good.

Speaker 9 And then the news comes yesterday that Spotify and Netflix have now made a deal where Spotify video podcasts will now be streaming on Netflix.

Speaker 112 Who wants that?

Speaker 79 He said famously, okay.

Speaker 55 Clip it, everybody, because maybe this will be a huge success, but I don't see it.

Speaker 29 So, there, so these like all of the ringer podcasts, some of them I think are just Zoom calls, okay?

Speaker 48 They're taking them off YouTube because, of course, this is about YouTube being the boss, and they're going to now have them streaming on Netflix.

Speaker 133 I don't know.

Speaker 81 What do you think?

Speaker 1 I'm not going to watch it.

Speaker 82 No, I know you're not going to watch it.

Speaker 38 I was just wondering what you thought.

Speaker 31 I don't care for it.

Speaker 1 But, you know, if they want to do it, it's more distribution. It's probably good for the podcaster.
You want to call it a podcast, really a video presentation.

Speaker 30 By the way, you have an invitation.

Speaker 72 I was on the

Speaker 25 Gold, Guns, and Goats podcast, which I think comes out tomorrow.

Speaker 1 And I'm a big fan of it. Is it about gold?

Speaker 43 Gold, guns, and goats.

Speaker 16 Actually, I've been listening.

Speaker 1 Is this about guns and goats?

Speaker 96 Yes.

Speaker 1 Do they talk about eating goats? No.

Speaker 112 What the hell?

Speaker 9 Okay.

Speaker 22 So I've gotten a lot of my education on stablecoin from them, the North Sea.

Speaker 79 North Sea Nexus stuff.

Speaker 100 They've been very helpful.

Speaker 121 What am I hearing?

Speaker 64 Oh, scam likely.

Speaker 40 And Tom Luongo, who's been around for a long time, he is a huge John C.

Speaker 43 Dvorak fan.

Speaker 1 Oh, good for him.

Speaker 170 And in fact, he's like, you know, when John started talking about pipelines, I'm like, dude, oh okay

Speaker 1 so that was you wasn't it yes i'd like to get credited for some of these things i i let you have it i didn't say anything i'm like it's okay yeah you would have sounded like a little baby yeah well yes exactly i see i'm not defeated maybe he set you up to do that and i don't think so i don't know maybe he's one of those guys who is good at it anyway i said that i would be more than happy to make the introduction and yeah oh i'd be glad to do the show sure because i think you'll i think you'll really enjoy it they get really deep in financial stuff and yeah, I think you'll enjoy it.

Speaker 22 So, okay, I'll make that connection.

Speaker 101 Tom will be will be delighted.

Speaker 49 Big, big Dvorak fan.

Speaker 113 Like, why am I even on this podcast?

Speaker 145 You want John. You don't want me.

Speaker 55 That was obvious.

Speaker 9 Then,

Speaker 31 I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 You didn't do the weave. You didn't go back to the point I'm trying to make earlier that you interrupted me.
You said you're going to do the weave. And now you're off to something new.

Speaker 8 It just can't.

Speaker 9 Hey, you suck at it. Well, weave me back.
You know, Trump. Weave me back.

Speaker 32 Weave me back. Where are we going?

Speaker 21 You don't even remember what it was.

Speaker 50 Yeah, I do. Okay.

Speaker 1 It was that guy who was bitching and moaning to you in the letter.

Speaker 11 Yeah. And we went into the whole thing.
I did the whole thing.

Speaker 33 I did the whole thing about it.

Speaker 1 I'm back into it because I had stuff to say about the letter. That was the point of the weave.

Speaker 14 I'm sorry. I get you.

Speaker 50 The weave that I screwed up on the weave with a bad stitch for a podcast invite for you.

Speaker 63 I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 Okay, well, that's fine and dandy, but here's what, here's the point I was going to make about this guy and his complaint. He said in his letter that he has to listen to the podcast three times.

Speaker 17 What more do you want?

Speaker 1 I mean, this is like if you got to listen three times, that means you're listening three times. That's nine hours of listening

Speaker 1 because our material must be so good that you feel obliged to listen to it three whole times.

Speaker 23 Are you kidding me?

Speaker 1 We've had other people say, you guys suck. I had to listen to your podcast three times.

Speaker 1 It's just

Speaker 1 it seems like it's missing the point. The podcast is so good that you can listen to it three times.

Speaker 55 I always wonder if people really do that when they say that.

Speaker 1 It's a lot of time. It's a whole day.

Speaker 10 It's a day's work.

Speaker 109 I mean, where does he have time to watch video podcasts?

Speaker 54 He's listening to 18 hours a week of our show.

Speaker 10 Yeah, well, I agree. It's probably bullcrap.

Speaker 7 But anyway.

Speaker 1 But he did say it.

Speaker 58 But my point was.

Speaker 1 And by the way, another point I was going to make in the weave was that one of the things that we both, you and I both have noticed doing it audio only is that you become attuned.

Speaker 1 And I think you proved this really to an extreme

Speaker 1 probably about six months ago when you played a Gavin Newsom clip. where Newsom's wiggling his shoulders and he's moving his hands all around and you don't really hear him.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 48 What did I pick up?

Speaker 55 I don't remember what I picked up.

Speaker 1 It was something that he was saying that it was not, it was, it was covered up by all his gyrations. He's always wiggling around like he's got the ants in his pants.

Speaker 1 And he, and when you just listen, which is one of the reasons that we've, we've talked about this on the show before.

Speaker 1 When you we listen and we produce these audio clips.

Speaker 48 We catch a lot that we hadn't even caught when we were clipping it.

Speaker 1 You don't catch stuff if you're looking.

Speaker 1 In fact, I remember like 10 years ago, I used to do all these clips from TV shows,

Speaker 1 and it was like just, I think they were called bad acting or something.

Speaker 60 Here's the troll room.

Speaker 54 Yeah, but with video, we can see that Newsom's a fag.

Speaker 174 Okay, well, there's that.

Speaker 9 There's that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, there is that. But

Speaker 1 the point is, is that you get

Speaker 1 when somebody says something, you don't need to be distracted by their magician act where they're moving this and that.

Speaker 1 They're trying to distract

Speaker 1 from what they're actually saying.

Speaker 2 Distraction.

Speaker 105 Yeah, it's true.

Speaker 17 Absolutely.

Speaker 1 So it's denser and contented to do it without the

Speaker 1 video is just, it's kind of cool if you want to be on TV.

Speaker 9 Right.

Speaker 101 Right.

Speaker 92 Which neither of us have any aspirations for at this point in our lives.

Speaker 1 No, I'm too old.

Speaker 145 Yeah.

Speaker 9 I'm too old now, too.

Speaker 1 Don't you see? No, you could still do it.

Speaker 43 Dude, you sit in that barber chair.

Speaker 54 Why do barbers always have the worst mirrors ever?

Speaker 96 If you just look old and decrepit, and I'm like, is that really me?

Speaker 1 That's because they're using mercury for the reflective material instead of silver.

Speaker 22 Does that mean it's more accurate?

Speaker 1 No, it means it's more... It's higher in the blue range and

Speaker 1 it's more like daylight than soft light.

Speaker 23 Oh, this is a Kelvin.

Speaker 1 It's a Kelvin. It's the Kelvin that is retransmitted back to you is too high.
The numbers are too high.

Speaker 21 No, well, I appreciate that.

Speaker 79 This is something I'd never thought of, never knew.

Speaker 31 I like it.

Speaker 9 I like it.

Speaker 1 Because old-fashioned mirrors are all silver. And so the Kelvin reflected Kelvin is going to be in probably the 3 to 2,500 to 4,000 range as opposed to mercury.

Speaker 92 I'm going to say to my hair lady, I'm going to say, if you're still here, what's the Kelvin of your mirror?

Speaker 1 I want to know.

Speaker 1 I don't know how you'd measure the Kelvin of a mirror, but I think you could do it. Somebody out there knows how to do this stuff.

Speaker 1 But I am familiar with the Kelvin rating.

Speaker 83 Yes, I can tell. I like it.

Speaker 21 You're very familiar with it.

Speaker 30 One more ChatGPT clip just because it came in this morning.

Speaker 162 Retail giant Walmart has announced a partnership with ChatGPT, allowing customers to purchase products directly through the AI chat platform.

Speaker 176 The collaboration marks a significant step in the growing integration of artificial intelligence into everyday life.

Speaker 176 Since the emergence of consumer-facing AI, analysts have long speculated about its potential to disrupt traditional business models and daily routines.

Speaker 176 With this partnership, AI appears to be transitioning from a helpful novelty to a fully embedded part of commerce and lifestyle.

Speaker 104 As part of the deal, Walmart will reportedly share shopper data with ChatGPT's parent company in exchange for integration on the platform.

Speaker 176 Given Walmart's vast retail footprint, such data is among its most valuable assets, typically closely guarded.

Speaker 176 The company's willingness to share this information underscores the strategic importance it places on AI's role in shaping the future of retail.

Speaker 58 I think it's a mistake.

Speaker 40 This is crazy.

Speaker 1 It's a huge mistake. You can't do that.

Speaker 1 Given the way that that's probably some valuable material in there that the AI machines can figure out, and it's going to hurt Walmart.

Speaker 9 Well, I guess

Speaker 1 Walmart, a stupid deal was that that Walmart made.

Speaker 166 Well, it's the lady who's running democracy forward.

Speaker 45 No kings.

Speaker 22 I don't know. I mean, I guess they're thinking that it'll increase sales because it's a recommendation engine or I don't know.

Speaker 1 It just reminds me of Dick Bras.

Speaker 71 Oh, the old Dick Brass story.

Speaker 1 Dick Brass was this entrepreneur. I haven't seen him for years.

Speaker 1 He used to work for Microsoft for a while, but before he did that, in the very early days of computing, he went to Random House and did a sweet deal to get a digital rights to the rand the first guy who got digital rights to a book.

Speaker 1 it was like in the probably the early 80s maybe the late 70s and he went and got these digital rights to random houses thesaurus

Speaker 1 and dictionary wow and and he remembers the meeting i because i knew him enough that he talked about the meeting he said they said oh yeah sure you can have it but you can have them i mean they're no good These digital rights don't mean anything.

Speaker 1 We're a book company. We print.

Speaker 44 Like MTV saying, you can have the internet domain name.

Speaker 33 We've got the AOL keyword.

Speaker 96 Who cares? Go for it.

Speaker 1 Yes, which is something you love to harp on, which is, but it's a classic example of this kind of stupidity or lack of forward thinking. Yeah.
And as opposed to stupidity, which is slightly different.

Speaker 1 But so, so you got, and they, as time went on, within four or five years, when all the digital rights thing became a big deal and they were worth hundreds of thousands of dollars, they were whining and moaning and groaning.

Speaker 24 They had to buy it back from him for a fortune.

Speaker 103 I tried to buy,

Speaker 22 what was that service where you put the C D into your drive and then it went on the internet and he looked it up and then it would help you burn the C D?

Speaker 156 What was that called?

Speaker 1 Well, there was a number of things that would go on the internet and organize stuff for you and also normalize the sound. And

Speaker 1 it would also tell you what the song's name was and the artist.

Speaker 54 Yeah, yeah, that's what it was.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that operation was out out of Emeryville. I can almost think of the name of it.

Speaker 45 Because I called the guy, I spoke to him, and he said, oh, man,

Speaker 101 we just sold it to somebody else for like CD database.

Speaker 48 Yes, CDDB.

Speaker 109 I'm like, I want to buy that for you because I had $50,000 that this is like, you know, public company days.

Speaker 31 I'm like, I want to buy this.

Speaker 119 I see a future.

Speaker 46 And I think CDDB, their database later sold for a lot of money to Pandora or somebody like that.

Speaker 82 Because what they had done is they had the catalog.

Speaker 44 And I saw that as incredibly valuable.

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, you were ahead of your time, actually, in that case, you were behind your time.

Speaker 55 Yes, I'm usually 10 years ahead.

Speaker 1 By a couple of weeks, you were short.

Speaker 21 Missed it, missed it.

Speaker 92 But then again, I did invest in Ask Jeeves, so that was a good one.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was a good one. It allowed you to get into the helicopter business and go broke.

Speaker 9 Go broke.

Speaker 23 Fabulous idea.

Speaker 74 Hey, hey, I had a lot of fun.

Speaker 32 I can tell you that.

Speaker 1 I had a lot of fun. You can't fly a chopper.
I can't.

Speaker 22 Literally burning money in the sky.

Speaker 51 So, of course, we had the big

Speaker 32 peace deal,

Speaker 107 phase one, which was

Speaker 47 very interesting to watch.

Speaker 89 I'm just sitting there like, our president is, he's nuts, but

Speaker 50 he's doing very interesting things.

Speaker 101 He called it Miriam Adelson.

Speaker 32 Did you see that?

Speaker 102 I forgot to clip it.

Speaker 1 No, I did not see that. I didn't know he called Miriam Adelson.

Speaker 9 Oh, yeah, he called her out.

Speaker 113 And let's see, maybe I have it here.

Speaker 82 Because people are going nuts over this.

Speaker 114 This guy's insane.

Speaker 61 I can't believe he's doing this.

Speaker 35 Hold on a second.

Speaker 145 What did he do?

Speaker 97 I want to play it for you so that

Speaker 97 you can enjoy it.

Speaker 2 Here it is. Here it is.

Speaker 126 You know that. They kept promising.
I never understood it until I got there.

Speaker 126 There was a a lot of pressure put on these presidents. It was put on me, too, but I didn't yield to the pressure.
But every president for decades recognized the campaign. Come on.

Speaker 156 Here we go.

Speaker 126 Isn't that right, Miriam?

Speaker 151 He's pointing at her now.

Speaker 126 Isn't that right, Miriam?

Speaker 126 Look at Miriam. She's back there.

Speaker 15 Stand up, you know.

Speaker 19 Stand up. And she looks like a kook.

Speaker 16 Her hair is all crazy, like her hair dryer exploded.

Speaker 75 Here he goes.

Speaker 126 Miriam and Sheldon would come into the office. They'd call me.

Speaker 126 He'd call me.

Speaker 126 I think they had more trips to the White House than anybody else I could think of. Look at her sitting there so innocently.

Speaker 126 She's got 60 billion in the bank, 60 billion.

Speaker 126 And she loves, and she, I think she's saying no more,

Speaker 126 and she loves Israel, but she loves it. And they would come in, and her husband was a very aggressive man, but I loved him.
He was a very aggressive, very supportive of me.

Speaker 126 And he'd call up, can I come over and see you? I'd say, Sheldon, I'm the President of the United States. It doesn't work that way.
He'd come in.

Speaker 126 But they were very responsible for so much, including getting me thinking about Golan Heights, which is probably one of the greatest things to ever happen to Israel.

Speaker 38 Here's the money shot.

Speaker 126 Miriam, stand up, please.

Speaker 126 She really is. I mean, she loves this country.

Speaker 126 She loves this country. Her and her husband are so incredible.
We miss him so dearly.

Speaker 126 But I actually asked her, I'm going to get her in trouble with this, but I actually asked her once, I said, So, Miriam, I know you love Israel.

Speaker 50 What do you love more?

Speaker 126 The United States or Israel? She refused to answer. That means,

Speaker 126 that might mean Israel, I must say.

Speaker 68 So people go nuts over this.

Speaker 89 He's admitting, he's admitting it.

Speaker 33 He's controlled by Israel.

Speaker 1 Get that?

Speaker 107 Of course not.

Speaker 47 In fact, it's the most transparent I've ever seen a president

Speaker 106 be.

Speaker 95 Like, well, I got $100 million.

Speaker 48 He didn't say $100 million, but very supportive of me.

Speaker 53 And then they gave me some thoughts about the Golan Heights.

Speaker 143 And I think they love Israel more than America.

Speaker 9 I was like, okay.

Speaker 156 That was, oh, that, oh, that set people off.

Speaker 1 I don't know why it would set anybody off.

Speaker 31 I'm just saying.

Speaker 44 I don't understand it either.

Speaker 21 Anyway, so that was a little moment there.

Speaker 73 Then he goes to Egypt, and man, everybody, except Iran, everybody was there.

Speaker 41 All the big Whigs, they're all like, you're great.

Speaker 20 The Pakistan prime minister, he's like, without you, millions of people would have been dead between us and India.

Speaker 47 Thank you for stopping that.

Speaker 144 Everyone's just loving him and loving him and loving him.

Speaker 119 Oh, so it's just the best.

Speaker 57 You got Georgia Maloney smiling at him from behind.

Speaker 88 He turns around.

Speaker 39 He says, I get in trouble for this as a politician, but you're beautiful.

Speaker 78 You're just beautiful.

Speaker 34 So he's doing this whole rap and he's going down the list alphabetically.

Speaker 69 And

Speaker 93 Jeremy Kyle, he's on Sky News in the UK.

Speaker 25 I think he had a talk show.

Speaker 47 Maybe he still has a talk show, a morning talk show.

Speaker 73 And he was doing

Speaker 31 a voice.

Speaker 91 I guess the way they, you know how the They used to do the Eurovision song contest and the Brits are always making fun of it.

Speaker 39 Sir Terry Wogan was great at that

Speaker 60 and always laughing at it because they always came in last and they'd always be laughing about it.

Speaker 45 So Jeremy Kyle is doing a version of that and for 15 minutes and it's only on YouTube.

Speaker 47 I guess they were showing the straight video of Trump on television, but on YouTube they have his commentary which he's making as he's watching it, which I think is an interesting thing to do.

Speaker 47 And they're playing, he and his co-hosts are playing it just like it's the Eurovision song contest because Keir Starmer, the Prime Minister,

Speaker 36 is standing there and

Speaker 84 like the Cheshire Cat.

Speaker 28 And they're like, oh, oh, he's last.

Speaker 81 Oh, he's been waiting 15 minutes.

Speaker 58 I'll just play this one minute where it came to it.

Speaker 177 And

Speaker 18 UAE.

Speaker 178 Oh, UAE.

Speaker 179 We're next.

Speaker 177 United Kingdom. Where's United Kingdom?

Speaker 179 Behind your friends.

Speaker 179 Oh, I'm here.

Speaker 179 Oh,

Speaker 180 very good.

Speaker 181 Oh, the stick here's coming forward.

Speaker 177 came in like

Speaker 177 20-minute notes.

Speaker 179 Oh, he's come on to speak, and Trump said.

Speaker 177 So many others, and just so many others. And

Speaker 177 it's such a compliment to what we're doing because what we've done is something very unique and very special.

Speaker 179 So it's perhaps the wealthiest and most powerful.

Speaker 36 Right, cut him now.

Speaker 182 Cut that. Just stop Trump now.

Speaker 181 I had to wait for that, people. Honestly, can you please cut that?

Speaker 182 He waited 15 minutes, Keir Starmer, to be mentioned. And Trump stood right behind Trump and he goes, where is he?

Speaker 179 So he turns around and Starmer walks to the Lecter and Trump looks at him and sort of go away, trying to keep speaking.

Speaker 182 Starmer looks now as if somebody's put something very disgusting under his nose.

Speaker 54 It was great.

Speaker 36 He totally cockblocked him.

Speaker 79 Like, nah, you're not going to talk.

Speaker 93 You're not going to say anything.

Speaker 44 And the main reason is, of course, that Britain and France went to this whole two-state solution thing, and we recognized Palestine as a state.

Speaker 83 And here's what Rubio thought of that.

Speaker 185 Have you noticed that the talks with Hamas fell apart on the day Macron made the unilateral decision that he's going to recognize a Palestinian state?

Speaker 185 And then you have other people come forward, other countries say, well, if there's not a ceasefire by September, we're going to recognize the Palestinian state.

Speaker 185 Well, if I'm Hamas, I basically conclude, let's not do a ceasefire because we can be rewarded and we can claim it as a victory.

Speaker 185 So those messages, while largely symbolic in their minds, actually have made it harder to get peace and harder to achieve a deal with Hamas. They feel emboldened.

Speaker 117 Now, not to be outdone, as the Brits, of course, have been totally shunned.

Speaker 22 They never wanted this to happen. They love this strife in the Middle East, the North Sea Nexus.

Speaker 21 The Secretary of Education Bridget Phillipson comes out and goes on Sky News and said, oh no, we actually did this.

Speaker 98 We we recognize that Trump has taken all the honor here, but we actually did this.

Speaker 186 We have played a key role behind the scenes in shaping this. It's right that we do so because it's in all of our interest, including our own national interest,

Speaker 186 that we move to a lasting peace in the region.

Speaker 187 And when you say behind the scenes, like what?

Speaker 2 I mean,

Speaker 188 it seems to everybody else in the world that this has been done by Trump and the Israelis and Hamas.

Speaker 124 What part did we play?

Speaker 186 These are complex matters of diplomacy that we are involved in, but we do welcome and recognise the critical role that the American government played in moving us to this point.

Speaker 186 What matters now, of course, is how we move beyond this immediate end to the war, moving towards that lasting peace that we all want to see.

Speaker 186 That is why we recognized a Palestinian state, why alongside that, we're committed to making sure that

Speaker 186 a safe and secure Israel endures.

Speaker 188 The reason I ask this is because, as you say, we recognise a Palestinian state. Marco Rubio, the Secretary of State, said that actually

Speaker 188 made it more difficult to land the deal.

Speaker 188 What's really going on here?

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 188 was that that some sort of clever strategic double bluff? I mean, the Americans say we made it more difficult. You're saying that we played this key part.

Speaker 171 What's true?

Speaker 186 Well, we believed as a government that it was the right thing to do to recognise the Palestinian state because of the way in which the conflict had developed over the last two years.

Speaker 186 That if that hadn't happened, we would be in a position where there would no longer be that viable option of a Palestinian state. But the Israelis were furious with us.

Speaker 188 The Americans said that we actually hampered the deal.

Speaker 124 What was the positive role that we played?

Speaker 186 It was the right thing to do, and we will always act as a government in that manner. I do obviously understand that not everyone agrees with that decision.

Speaker 186 But given the scale of the conflict and what needed to happen, we felt it was the right thing to do to recognise that Palestinian state.

Speaker 186 But I should also just emphasise that the reason this conflict, of course, this phase of the conflict has begun or began was following the appalling events, the appalling atrocities of the 7th of October.

Speaker 186 And over the course of the next 24 hours, what we all want to see are as many hostages as possible released home to their families

Speaker 186 and those brought home.

Speaker 82 Yeah, blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 42 And then we've got...

Speaker 1 You know, Anthony Blink and

Speaker 68 Yes.

Speaker 40 The New York Times did a big article, the lost chances to reach a hostage deal and ceasefire months ago.

Speaker 170 Because, you know, they had it all teed up. All Trump had to do was just make it happen.

Speaker 61 And because he prolonged the war with his antics, lots of Palestinians were killed.

Speaker 33 It's amazing, these people.

Speaker 9 It's truly amazing.

Speaker 55 New York Times.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's pretty pathetic.

Speaker 145 Yeah.

Speaker 9 So anyway,

Speaker 73 I think

Speaker 77 the best quote was on he had, he was yelling at the BBC people on the plane.

Speaker 84 He's like, I think he's onto this.

Speaker 95 It's North Sea Nexus.

Speaker 34 He's like, nah, nah, these guys are no good.

Speaker 38 And then Deucey comes out with a question, which was a pretty funny answer.

Speaker 190 You had talked a couple weeks ago. You were doing an interview, and you talked about how you hope to end the war in Ukraine because it might help you get into heaven.

Speaker 190 How does this help?

Speaker 18 Does this help? I mean, you know, I'm being

Speaker 18 a little cute.

Speaker 18 I don't think there's anything going to get me in heaven.

Speaker 14 Okay.

Speaker 190 I think I'm not maybe heaven bound. I may be in heaven right now as we fly at Air Force One.
I'm not sure I'm going to be able to make heaven. But I've made life a lot better for a lot of people.

Speaker 14 And, you know, as an example,

Speaker 190 had the election of 2020 not been rigged, you would have millions of people living just in Russia-Ukraine alone.

Speaker 14 That would have never happened.

Speaker 190 And it didn't happen for four years.

Speaker 9 And I knew Putin very well.

Speaker 190 It was the apple of his eye. All the things I've said would have never happened.
We had an incompetent administration. We had an incompetent president.

Speaker 190 And because of a crooked election, millions of people are dead.

Speaker 9 There you go. i'm not going to heaven

Speaker 23 you know i'm

Speaker 1 when he said that because he's been talking about this for some reason uh i'm surprised that the uh lefties haven't picked up on it as an admission to epstein

Speaker 1 oh that's a good one yeah and not one guy has picked nobody's picked up it's too late i think the timing's off now you can't do it but it seems to me that's the first thing i'd say oh they're going to go after him here because this is now he's admitting he's just admitted that he was an Epstein pedophile.

Speaker 21 Yeah, that's a good one. No.

Speaker 17 But no, they're just too, they're too dumb.

Speaker 106 No.

Speaker 9 Yes.

Speaker 30 They're too wrapped up in trying to give the credit to Biden.

Speaker 1 I have a clip. I have an interesting Gaza.
This is kind of a, this is like at the end of a, I think, a

Speaker 1 NPR discussion about Gaza. And this is just finally talking about who's going to be be policing the place and all the rest of it.
And I thought it was a good way to wrap

Speaker 1 currently where we stand on Gaza.

Speaker 64 Oh, here we go.

Speaker 4 The vacuum? Is that it?

Speaker 1 The vacuum. Yeah.

Speaker 191 Who is going to fill this vacuum if no one's control?

Speaker 4 Whoa, hold on a second. What's this? You've got you're

Speaker 35 out of sync, man.

Speaker 156 No.

Speaker 64 Yeah, you got, hold on. Let me monoize you.
Hold on.

Speaker 64 Huh.

Speaker 92 Okay.

Speaker 92 Let's try that again.

Speaker 191 Who is going to fill this vacuum if no one's in control?

Speaker 192 Well, the ceasefire calls for a committee of Palestinian technocrats to run Gaza on an interim basis.

Speaker 192 Egypt's foreign minister says there is now a list of 15 people, and he says the names have been approved by Hamas and Israel.

Speaker 192 However, the names haven't been announced, and it's not clear when they'll take over or how much authority they'll have to take care of things like health care, education, water, electricity, coordination with aid groups.

Speaker 192 And Alyssa, as you know, the needs are staggering, and this committee certainly won't have many resources to work with.

Speaker 191 Would they be in charge of Gaza's security?

Speaker 9 So it seems to likely play a role, though we really don't have any clarity.

Speaker 192 Right now, the Hamas civilian police, armed with guns, have returned to the streets.

Speaker 192 And these Hamas policemen have been in deadly shootouts already with some Palestinian Klans, which are essentially armed gangs. So the security situation is very volatile.

Speaker 192 Now, Egypt says it's training about 5,000 new Palestinian policemen for Gaza. This training has been taking place in recent weeks in Egypt.

Speaker 192 It's not clear when these new policemen might come to Gaza and if Hamas will accept this new authority.

Speaker 65 Yeah, well, of course, it behooves no one for this to actually stick or improve, not in the media, for sure.

Speaker 50 We want this to fail.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they want it to fail, of course.

Speaker 116 And I'm sure there's rough waters ahead.

Speaker 2 There's no doubt about it.

Speaker 39 You know, you got Hamas executing people on the street.

Speaker 41 They made a big deal out of that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and they also made a big deal out of it being 33.

Speaker 31 Oh, I didn't hear that part.

Speaker 1 I did.

Speaker 1 Did you get it? Did you get it? No, I didn't get it, but

Speaker 9 I figured,

Speaker 1 yeah, it's just, you know, it's just another 33.

Speaker 55 Well, here's the CNN report.

Speaker 194 In the middle of a public square in Gaza City, eight bound and blindfolded men are dragged out and forced to kneel.

Speaker 194 One by one, armed Hamas militants take up their positions behind them.

Speaker 65 Very graphic, this.

Speaker 158 Aiming rifles at their heads before opening fire.

Speaker 43 All eight men fall to the ground, executed.

Speaker 194 This is part of the grim reality of post-ceasefire Gaza, as Hamas forces say they are carrying out a, quote, comprehensive security operation to root out those they accuse of collaborating with Israel.

Speaker 194 With these bodies, Hamas also re-establishing the element of fear it has used to rule Gaza for years

Speaker 194 as it looks to reassert its dominance over a decimated Gaza strip.

Speaker 194 Amid its ceasefire with Israel, Hamas is now putting on a show of force in Gaza streets, attacking other armed groups, from gangs backed by Israel to powerful clans that that have a history of clashing with Hamas.

Speaker 194 The Durhamush clan, which denies collaborating with Israel, has accused Hamas of killing nearly 30 members of its family in the last 20 years.

Speaker 14 33.

Speaker 194 U.S. Central Command, which is monitoring the ceasefire, urging Hamas to immediately suspend violence and shooting at innocent Palestinian civilians in Gaza.
Yeah.

Speaker 166 And of course, now the question is, what will we protest?

Speaker 1 Well, we got the no kings. I have a little clip on the no kings, which is protests not having a king.

Speaker 4 Okay, let's do that.

Speaker 136 If you have noticed, the news cycle over the last week has been even worse than before. It just seems to be escalating.

Speaker 136 And I truly believe it's partly because they're seeing how many marches are being organized all around the country and around the world on October 18th.

Speaker 136 They are lashing out in fear because they see all the opposition from people.

Speaker 136 The fact that they cannot gaslight the world into thinking, into believing that Portland is a war zone on fire because there are now dancing frogs, dancing unicorns, dancing eagles outside the ICE facility.

Speaker 136 And even the Oregon National Guard is there to protect the peaceful protesters protesters and not the ICE agents, says a lot.

Speaker 37 They are lashing

Speaker 136 out because they're not getting what they want. They are terrified because there are more of us than there are of them.
And more people are waking up and saying that they are against this regime.

Speaker 136 So this week, try to find something that brings you calm, recharges your energy, because we need all of our voices together on October 18th, No King's Day.

Speaker 47 Okay, so this is obviously a Marxist move by the Socialist Workers' Party and whatever else.

Speaker 24 The World's Workers' Party.

Speaker 1 The World's Workers' Party.

Speaker 36 When you say regime, you're a comrade.

Speaker 9 Wouldn't you say?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I would say so. Yeah, regime is a code word.

Speaker 9 Yeah, but

Speaker 9 this is what I'm somewhat concerned about.

Speaker 41 They are really

Speaker 34 going nuts in these cities.

Speaker 1 well i'm not seeing it that bad i don't think it's that bad i think they're humiliating themselves yeah well we'll see they can be violent we saw it with

Speaker 1 well yeah but that's always been true we saw it with jazz

Speaker 1 let's play this clip this is a talk the old the one tick tock clip that i have on here which is talk and should i think it's lefty gaza trump clip No, I will not be celebrating that Donald Trump ended the war in Gaza because he didn't.

Speaker 196 If anybody deserves to be recognized and praised for their efforts in ending this conflict, which is still not entirely ended, it is the people of Palestine.

Speaker 196 The people of Palestine have relentlessly fought for decades for liberation to still not entirely have it. So no, I will not be praising Donald Trump or his administration for

Speaker 196 ending the war,

Speaker 196 ending the conflict,

Speaker 196 getting the ceasefire deal, because it wasn't him.

Speaker 196 It was not Donald Trump that did this. It was the perseverance and

Speaker 196 the persistence of the Palestinian people that got us to where we are, that got them to where they are. It is their efforts, their loss, their pain, their struggles that have got them to this point.

Speaker 196 So no, I will not be acknowledging or giving any type of credit to Donald Trump and his administration because they don't deserve it.

Speaker 196 The people who deserve credit and love and support are those of Palestine.

Speaker 196 Those who have truly fought for liberation, those who have truly fought for their families, their people.

Speaker 198 Not Donald Trump.

Speaker 31 Oh, brother. Look at me.

Speaker 122 Look at me.

Speaker 44 Look at me. I'm taking a stand.

Speaker 21 Look at me. Look at me.

Speaker 100 Look at me on TikTok.

Speaker 52 Look at me.

Speaker 34 Oh, yeah. I'm taking a single stand.

Speaker 115 Why are you producing it?

Speaker 1 Why are you taking a clip and then putting a musical bed under it? What is it?

Speaker 9 Because I'm

Speaker 1 smart as Scorsese. I mean, what do you think you are?

Speaker 61 I'm producing.

Speaker 70 I'm a producer, man.

Speaker 140 I'm a creator. I'm a creator.
I create.

Speaker 51 It's what I do.

Speaker 142 And when I create, I create against the orange man.

Speaker 70 I create.

Speaker 28 That's what I'm doing.

Speaker 21 Haven't you heard of social media?

Speaker 62 Haven't you heard of short-form video?

Speaker 52 Everyone's loving it.

Speaker 62 It's where it's at, man.

Speaker 9 You dinosaur. What are you thinking?

Speaker 89 Lincoln?

Speaker 106 Oh.

Speaker 36 Yeah.

Speaker 9 Yeah.

Speaker 9 Yeah.

Speaker 1 So there's a new, you know, we played the old JD Vance, the original Ritardo clip.

Speaker 9 Yes.

Speaker 1 Well, he's got a new one.

Speaker 148 Is this something he's making and posting, or is this just something?

Speaker 1 I really don't think he's making these.

Speaker 178 Okay.

Speaker 199 To my illegal alien amigos in the city of El Chicago, please go back to your casita.

Speaker 194 El Governor Pritzker Esmucho Ritardo.

Speaker 1 He can't protect OU.

Speaker 199 If you stay in El Chicago, you will be arrested O and deporto back to your shitholio. Gracias, amigos.
Oh, and when you come back legally, make sure you El Vodo for L J D Vanso.

Speaker 48 Muchas gracias.

Speaker 9 Long live Sora too.

Speaker 121 Yeah.

Speaker 55 It'll be short-lived, but we'll enjoy it while it's here for sure.

Speaker 42 So then, although I think the only person really doing a lot with this is Jesse Waters, but you know, I tried to clip him.

Speaker 79 He did like 10 minutes on this.

Speaker 1 Well, the problem with clipping Jesse, because I've done it on the show, is that

Speaker 1 he does too many asides

Speaker 1 to be, you know, he tries to be personable when he does this bit. So, instead of just doing a straight-up presentation, he wanders just enough that you have to keep clipping it out.

Speaker 1 It's very annoying to edit him, not doable.

Speaker 77 So, instead, I have it is doable, it's just a pain in the ass.

Speaker 46 So, Tulsi Gabbard,

Speaker 22 she is buckling down, bearing down, and calling it out as a

Speaker 86 traitorous conspiracy.

Speaker 162 The seriousness of, again, the implications and the consequences of these actions that were taken demand accountability.

Speaker 162 The American people not only deserve the truth and accountability, when we look at the future of our country as a democratic republic and the American people's ability to have faith that when they go and cast a vote at the ballot box, that the will of the people will be respected by those in government, whether they be Democrats or Republicans.

Speaker 162 This is literally what is at stake here. So we are referring all of our documents to the Department of Justice for the purpose of accountability and action.

Speaker 162 No one, no matter who they are, no matter how high up they are or how powerful they may be, no matter who the intelligence officials or professionals were who were a part of this treasonous conspiracy, there must be accountability.

Speaker 162 The truth must be shown to the American people in order to ensure that there is this faith and trust and integrity in our Democratic Republic for the sake of the future of our country.

Speaker 122 I'm not a lawyer.

Speaker 162 We're referring all of this to the Department of Justice. I know that Attorney General Pambondi is committed to bringing about justice to those who have broken the law.

Speaker 162 And in this case, again, what these documents detail, to me, in my view, cannot be explained as anything but a treasonous conspiracy.

Speaker 162 This is not so different from what we saw under George W.

Speaker 162 Bush when we saw that manufactured intelligence claiming there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq that kicked off a war that changed our culture.

Speaker 79 Now that I'm hearing this, thank you for reminding me that when we listen to things instead of watching them, we catch more.

Speaker 39 When she brings up the treasonous conspiracy of George W.

Speaker 37 Bush, the analog there is Britain.

Speaker 28 The analog is all over the place

Speaker 50 because it was the Brits who were who also were pushing

Speaker 100 weapons of mass destruction.

Speaker 128 The Brits, the Brits, the Brits.

Speaker 9 And the same thing here.

Speaker 42 Steel, the Brits, MI6.

Speaker 162 George W.

Speaker 162 Bush, when we saw that manufactured intelligence claiming there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq that kicked off a war that changed our country, that changed the lives of so many people like myself who went and served in those wars.

Speaker 162 The implications of manufactured intelligence are real.

Speaker 162 I would even say that what we are seeing here has an even greater impact than what we've seen in the past because it speaks again to the foundation of our Constitution and our Democratic Republic, which is why accountability is so critical.

Speaker 45 I don't like, for some reason, why does it grate me when she says our democratic republic?

Speaker 1 Because it's a constitutional republic.

Speaker 156 Thank you.

Speaker 107 Thank you.

Speaker 86 I don't know why she says that.

Speaker 2 I don't like it.

Speaker 1 She's He's a Democrat.

Speaker 96 Oh, yes, of course.

Speaker 2 Well,

Speaker 88 and then, of course, President Trump just went on and on and on about this, calling out everybody, oh, we're going to get everybody.

Speaker 126 And I hope that everybody's, you know, they're involved in it. I'm not.
I'm the one that had to suffer through it and ultimately win. But what they did was criminal.

Speaker 126 Duranged Jack Smith, in my opinion, is a criminal. And I noticed

Speaker 126 his interviewer was, I think.

Speaker 86 Notice how smart he is.

Speaker 40 He could be a podcaster, in my opinion.

Speaker 21 He slips it in there, so it's not libelous.

Speaker 60 So, in my opinion,

Speaker 106 he's very good.

Speaker 126 Deranged Jack Smith, in my opinion, is a criminal. And I noticed

Speaker 126 his interviewer was, I think that was Weissman. And I hope they're going to look into Weissman, too.

Speaker 126 Weism is a bad guy. And he had somebody in Lisa who was his puppet, worked in the office really as the top person.

Speaker 126 And I think that she should be looked at very strongly.

Speaker 126 There was tremendous criminal activity having to do. If we don't have fair elections in this country, we're not going to have a country.
And I've said it from the beginning, fair elections and

Speaker 126 borders. And we need also fair press.
Because if you don't have fair press, it's very tough. They have committed massive political crime.
I hope they're looking at shifty shift.

Speaker 126 I hope they're looking at all these people. And I'm allowed to find out.
I'm allowed to, you know, I'm, in theory, the chief law enforcement officer. But I have a major, talented talented group.

Speaker 126 This is about something else, but I hope they're looking at political crime because there's never been so much political crime against a political opponent as what I had to go through.

Speaker 126 They raided my house in Florida.

Speaker 42 It was an illegal raid.

Speaker 126 I have a lawsuit that was doing very well. And when I became president, I said, I'm sort of suing myself.
I don't know. How do you settle the lawsuit? I'll say, give me X dollars, right?

Speaker 126 And I don't know what to do with the lawsuit. It's a great lawsuit.

Speaker 3 And now I won.

Speaker 62 It looks bad.

Speaker 126 I'm suing myself, right?

Speaker 184 I'm suing myself.

Speaker 126 I don't know. But that was a little.

Speaker 9 I love it when he loses it.

Speaker 50 It was a great lawsuit.

Speaker 32 But I got how many X dollars I'm going to get myself.

Speaker 108 It's a great lawsuit, but I can't do it.

Speaker 52 I can't sue myself.

Speaker 126 That was very strong, very powerful.

Speaker 42 They raided illegally my house in Florida, Mar-a-Lago.

Speaker 126 They went through the drawers of my young son. They went through all of the cabinets and drawers of the first lady.
She walked in, she said, wow, what happened?

Speaker 56 This is where video would be helpful.

Speaker 100 I just like to see them going through her drawers.

Speaker 57 Yeah, Melania's drawers.

Speaker 126 She's very meticulous, and this wasn't so meticulous as she looked into the drawers and she saw everything a mess.

Speaker 126 It's

Speaker 126 what they did against a person that just got out of office. Nice.

Speaker 71 So he goes on and on and on.

Speaker 42 And I think it's getting to some Democrats because Pelosi,

Speaker 79 she lost it on the steps of the Capitol.

Speaker 55 And if you saw that.

Speaker 1 Some reporters Mike Lindell's TV.

Speaker 46 Yes, Lindell's TV.

Speaker 1 The girl who does this, she's pretty funny. And I don't know if you saw the whole clip, but

Speaker 1 at the end, she turns to the camera and gives a shit. Yeah, yeah, okay.

Speaker 24 That's the best thing.

Speaker 82 She gives the grin, yeah.

Speaker 1 A big grin.

Speaker 107 But Pelosi, I just love this.

Speaker 84 It's short.

Speaker 203 Congresswoman Pelosi.

Speaker 204 Are you at all concerned that the new January 6th Committee will find you liable for that day?

Speaker 204 Are you at all concerned about the new January 6th Committee finding you liable for that day?

Speaker 204 Why did you refuse the National Guard on January 6th?

Speaker 205 Shut up.

Speaker 162 I did not refuse the National Guard. The president didn't send it.
Why are you coming here with Republican talking points as if you're a serious journalist?

Speaker 204 The American people want to know. We still have questions.
Thank you.

Speaker 15 I just love.

Speaker 205 Shut up.

Speaker 21 That's just the best.

Speaker 52 I mean, she's off of it.

Speaker 33 Shut up.

Speaker 205 Shut up.

Speaker 106 She's mad.

Speaker 1 She's over the hill.

Speaker 149 She's lost it.

Speaker 1 But by the way, since you played some of these clips about this, you know, these threats that they're going to go after this guy, they're going to do nothing. The Republicans never do anything.

Speaker 1 They don't, no shift is going to be fine.

Speaker 1 I mean, maybe they all get a little nervous. No one gets one guy who's got indicted, Comey, for some, you know, he got indicted for a good reason, and it's probably a shut and open shut case.

Speaker 1 And Letitia James, which seems like an easy one, because she's like basically

Speaker 1 seems to be corrupt.

Speaker 23 But that's it.

Speaker 1 Where's all the Comer stuff about? Oh, we've tracked all the bank accounts to Hunter Biden's laptops, and we were putting the pieces together,

Speaker 1 connecting all of that. Nothing's come of it.

Speaker 108 Where's Arctic Frost?

Speaker 1 And Arctic Frost,

Speaker 1 and they're all bitching about it.

Speaker 1 Every time Holly's on a show,

Speaker 1 or there's two or three of these senators that are complaining bitterly constantly, but it doesn't mean anything.

Speaker 1 They gripe, gripe, gripe, gripe, gripe, and that's about all that you get out of the Republican Party.

Speaker 76 Well, that's a disappointing thing to hear.

Speaker 1 Well, you know it, and I know it.

Speaker 36 Oh, but where's the fun in that?

Speaker 50 Where's the fun?

Speaker 1 Yeah, there is no fun. They're just a bunch of softies.

Speaker 1 And then Pam Bondi, give me a break. Well, I mean, there's more memes.

Speaker 1 I'll put some memes in the next newsletter about, you know, they have more than than one Pam Bondi doll with, you know, she's sitting there behind a desk with a bunch of stuff she doesn't want to look at.

Speaker 121 So

Speaker 9 something odd happened.

Speaker 62 I got a clip from the clip custodian, and he sends me, he said, this is an old clip, and he sent it to me in context of a couple other clips that I'm going to play.

Speaker 115 But I had just clipped this myself,

Speaker 41 and I guess it was a rerun,

Speaker 150 which is surprising that it ran again

Speaker 28 on the news and I got it from

Speaker 98 KREM in South Carolina

Speaker 147 and he had the original from WYFF in South Carolina.

Speaker 58 I think they're both NBC affiliates.

Speaker 47 And so I'll play this clip and then I'll,

Speaker 44 which means, I think it'll make sense when I play the other clips.

Speaker 103 But this, it's just interesting that he dug this up and said, this is an old clip, but it makes sense in the context of these other clips,

Speaker 206 which is a predictive process.

Speaker 193 For some reason, for some reason, there is growing concern over a measles outbreak in South Carolina and whether misinformation about vaccines is making it worse.

Speaker 193 Health officials have now confirmed 16 cases in that state since July, and dozens of students are quarantining at home right now. Christian Benavidez has more from South Carolina.

Speaker 138 Measles cases are on the rise, forcing nearly 140 unvaccinated students in two South Carolina schools to stay home for three weeks after they were exposed to the virus.

Speaker 9 Parents Chandler and Emma Gordon are expecting baby number three in April.

Speaker 138 While they and their boys are vaccinated, the recent measles outbreak has made them extra careful.

Speaker 208 We're a little cautious knowing a newborn coming into this doesn't have the opportunity to be vaccinated or protected against measles.

Speaker 209 The highly contagious virus spreads through the air and can linger for up to two hours. Symptoms can include high fever, cough, runny nose, red eyes, and a rash.

Speaker 209 The virus can also cause severe infections, especially in kids under five.

Speaker 195 It's very concerning. We have never had this big of an outbreak, especially in such a short amount of time.

Speaker 201 Dr. Ashley Gardner works at Parkside Pediatrics in Spartanburg, South Carolina.

Speaker 39 Haven't you seen changes in parents in recent years?

Speaker 173 We have the miscommunications that can happen sometimes leading to a decrease in vaccine rates and it's our job as doctors in order to help give truth and point them to hopefully having the best medical decision possible.

Speaker 1 The measles vaccine is safe and effective according to the state.

Speaker 138 Nationwide measles cases are at a more than three decade high while vaccination rates among kindergartners have been trending downwards in recent years.

Speaker 173 Measles is so contagious that it needs a very, very high level of vaccination in order to achieve that herd immunity.

Speaker 195 And so if it dips down at all, there's the risk for this highly contagious virus spreading very quickly.

Speaker 44 So this next clip I will play for the benefit of our ever-growing Gen Z contingent who tune in to their uncles to learn some stuff.

Speaker 43 And I'm going to resurrect the clip that you brought probably about a year ago, I think, of the Brady Bunch, which I watched as a kid growing up.

Speaker 99 You watched as a teenager growing up.

Speaker 88 The Brady Bunch, a great sitcom.

Speaker 115 Mom had three daughters, dad had had three boys.

Speaker 60 They married.

Speaker 150 They got a housekeeper.

Speaker 87 It's a fun little sitcom.

Speaker 143 And the Brady bunch gets the measles.

Speaker 140 Here's how we talked about measles when we were kids back in the ice age.

Speaker 210 Peter,

Speaker 197 what are you doing home from school? They sent me home.

Speaker 200 Measles. You'll see their measles are a strange case of red freckles.

Speaker 197 You have got a temperature. They told me.
101.1.

Speaker 136 What's the record?

Speaker 197 Never mind.

Speaker 207 Are you sure it's the measles?

Speaker 197 Well, he certainly got all the symptoms. A slight temperature, a lot of dots, and a great big smile.

Speaker 207 A great big smile?

Speaker 197 No school for a few days.

Speaker 207 Say hello to my dotted son for me. Tell him I'll bring him some comic books, and I'll see you later, dear.

Speaker 197 Okay, honey. Bye.

Speaker 189 Boy, this is the life, isn't it?

Speaker 211 Yeah. If you have to get sick, you sure can't beat the measles.
That's right. No medicine.

Speaker 197 Inside or out.

Speaker 135 Like shots, I mean. Don't even mention shots.

Speaker 18 Yeah.

Speaker 197 Measles? Measles.

Speaker 197 measles. Well, all the kids have now had the measles.
So have I. Well, I had them years ago.
Looks like the Brady's are finished with the measles.

Speaker 129 Hold it.

Speaker 200 You're not through yet.

Speaker 197 Alice, don't tell me you're coming down with the measles.

Speaker 129 Oh, I hope so.

Speaker 6 I'd hate to think I was just learning how to blush at my age.

Speaker 55 So that's how we thought about this very same disease, measles, when we were kids.

Speaker 100 You had spots and a big smile on your face.

Speaker 67 You got to stay home.

Speaker 90 You got to read comic books.

Speaker 45 You got ice cream.

Speaker 73 And it was better than getting a needle.

Speaker 34 No, we'd rather have measles.

Speaker 21 Now we move forward in time to 2025.

Speaker 33 The Emmy Award-winning, multiple Emmy Award-winning HBO series, The Pit.

Speaker 51 Have you seen The Pit?

Speaker 1 I know about The Pit. It's a

Speaker 1 hot show.

Speaker 105 It's a very hot show, and here is their Brady Bunch version of The Measles.

Speaker 173 We have a septic 13-year-old with pneumonia. I just intubated, and ceftriaxone is on board.

Speaker 198 Patchy consolidation, maybe some nodules. Could be viral pneumonia with or without bacterial superinfection.

Speaker 131 Kids got a weird grasp, too.

Speaker 173 Oh, and it's maculopapular on the legs.

Speaker 198 Pretty faded on the neck and chest.

Speaker 198 Starting to descrimate.

Speaker 9 Have you ever seen anything like this before?

Speaker 129 Nope. Me neither.

Speaker 2 Well, that just goes to show you how old I am.

Speaker 187 This looks like measles.

Speaker 3 Measles? Holy shit.

Speaker 131 Any travel history?

Speaker 180 He wasn't able to talk before you intubated.

Speaker 131 Measles is super contagious.

Speaker 198 It's not contagious if it's resolving.

Speaker 131 We need more history. Where are the parents?

Speaker 173 Oh, they're at the movies. I'm sure their phone's off.
But he came in with his little sister. We can talk to her.

Speaker 104 What theater?

Speaker 1 I don't know. Shen, try every theater.

Speaker 131 It's gotta be overturned. Just the ones closest to where they live.

Speaker 187 We need to find those parents and call public health. Tell them we might have a measles outbreak.
Oh, no.

Speaker 33 Oh, no. We've got a measles outbreak.
Oh, no.

Speaker 21 Oh, I've seen this before.

Speaker 26 I'm so old. It's the measles.

Speaker 170 Let's have the parents argue about shots and stuff and doing things.

Speaker 66 Oh, no, it's the measles.

Speaker 173 How did Flynn get measles?

Speaker 198 From his sister.

Speaker 131 Hi, I'm Dr.

Speaker 198 Robbie. Georgia is fine.
She's in our staff room.

Speaker 187 She's the one who actually called 911 and probably saved her brother's life.

Speaker 85 Called 911 because he had the measles.

Speaker 97 Georgia was sick, but she got better on her own quickly.

Speaker 131 Many people get better on their own, like Georgia.

Speaker 1 However, as many as one in 20 kids that get measles get pneumonia like your son.

Speaker 180 Are your children vaccinated against measles?

Speaker 129 No.

Speaker 187 The MMR vaccine is perfectly safe.

Speaker 9 Measles is

Speaker 106 not.

Speaker 180 We're concerned about inflammation and possible damage to Flynn's brain and spinal cord.

Speaker 97 The measles got to his brain?

Speaker 180 Well, his head was normal, but the only way to find out if he's okay is to perform a lumbar puncture.

Speaker 26 The measles got to his brain.

Speaker 9 Oh, God.

Speaker 29 The measles got to his brain.

Speaker 13 We have to do a lumbar puncture.

Speaker 66 Make sure you get that beeping noise.

Speaker 62 Keep on going in the background.

Speaker 131 A spinal tap?

Speaker 196 I've read about kids who've been paralyzed from a spinal tap.

Speaker 46 There is zero risk of paralysis.

Speaker 94 What about bleeding or infection?

Speaker 212 It's a perfectly safe procedure.

Speaker 173 We do it every day.

Speaker 198 We need spinal fluid to see if Flynn has acute disseminated encephalomyelitis.

Speaker 1 And if he does?

Speaker 180 We treat with high-dose steroids to decrease the risk of blindness, deafness, intellectual disability, even death.

Speaker 198 He could die from this? The death rate from Adam is high.

Speaker 131 One in five.

Speaker 180 Do the spinal tap. No!

Speaker 173 Can't you just give him steroids without the spinal tap?

Speaker 180 If there's no Adem, the steroids could suppress his immune system, making it harder to fight off the pneumonia.

Speaker 94 But it says here.

Speaker 124 Can you put your damn phone away?

Speaker 120 Hey, hey, don't be doing your own research, lady.

Speaker 124 Your son is critically ill. The longer that we wait, the higher the risk of permanent brain damage.

Speaker 9 What is not clear here?

Speaker 131 Hillary.

Speaker 4 He has a tube down his throat.

Speaker 94 There you go.

Speaker 129 He's poking holes in my son's spine.

Speaker 6 Wow.

Speaker 6 Oh man, how could this end?

Speaker 4 What are you doing?

Speaker 185 You said she didn't want to be in the room.

Speaker 4 I was kidding George us something to eat.

Speaker 6 Wait outside.

Speaker 9 Stop what you're doing right now.

Speaker 129 No, they're almost done.

Speaker 4 I can't believe you went behind my back.

Speaker 124 I did what was best for Flynn, not for you.

Speaker 121 Take that needle out of his back. No.
Yes.

Speaker 153 Ma'am, I don't want to have to ask you to leave.

Speaker 129 Take it out right now.

Speaker 3 Yep.

Speaker 173 Coming out.

Speaker 171 All done.

Speaker 4 My son is leaving this hospital.

Speaker 4 Sorry.

Speaker 97 She really is a good mom.

Speaker 106 I mean, come on.

Speaker 33 This is insane.

Speaker 19 The propaganda of this.

Speaker 33 And they get all the Emmys?

Speaker 1 Yeah, they won a lot of awards.

Speaker 1 It's structured well, yeah.

Speaker 184 Oh.

Speaker 117 That's just crazy.

Speaker 1 And it's shameful. I'd say it's just shameful that they would run storylines like that.

Speaker 66 And did the Brady Bunch ever win an Emmy?

Speaker 102 They sure deserve it.

Speaker 31 No, I don't think so.

Speaker 1 That was the golden era of sitcoms, so this was pretty hard to win anything. Yeah.

Speaker 118 Happy Days.

Speaker 27 Wasn't Happy Day? Happy Days was the same time. Kung Fu.

Speaker 1 Kung Fu. Yeah.

Speaker 121 Kung Fu, Grasshopper.

Speaker 64 It's time when you snatch the pebbles from my hand.

Speaker 118 Ah, these were good times. Love Boat.

Speaker 60 Come on, man. These were good shows.

Speaker 118 These were wholesome shows.

Speaker 109 You stayed at home and watched with your family.

Speaker 73 We loved it.

Speaker 1 Those days are over.

Speaker 62 Yeah, we just doom scroll.

Speaker 9 Doom scroll. Oh, look.
Look at the eagle. Look at the eagle.

Speaker 102 He picked up the baby.

Speaker 1 My favorite.

Speaker 61 And the mom.

Speaker 1 So we also have, we have, since we're talking to doom scroll, one of our producers sent me this. It was a doom scroller.
He knows who he is.

Speaker 1 This guy's a comedy.

Speaker 1 He's not a comedian. He's a satirist, I think.
And his name's Josh, Josh Sider, I think is how you pronounce it. And he does these takeoffs on different people.
And this is kind of a takeoff on

Speaker 1 this character we've all seen on TikTok videos, or they pass it around.

Speaker 1 She gets around she, he, they, them. I don't know who it is.
This Lily

Speaker 1 Attino person who's always being misgendered. And she's in the restaurants and she's always getting free stuff.

Speaker 33 Yeah.

Speaker 139 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 115 Excuse me.

Speaker 2 Excuse me.

Speaker 21 What did you call me? Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 62 I want the.

Speaker 17 I have to leave.

Speaker 1 I don't feel my favorite lily thing is it's always the same bit. She says, he called me sir, and then he did correct it to ma'am, but I don't feel safe.
Yes.

Speaker 1 You don't feel safe.

Speaker 68 I don't feel safe here.

Speaker 1 I don't feel safe here. I've got to go.
So this is Josh. This is Josh, who's also played a

Speaker 1 trans

Speaker 1 illegal immigrant.

Speaker 1 But this is his latest bit, and I think it's hilarious.

Speaker 8 Dead skin me?

Speaker 9 And he's like, what are you talking about?

Speaker 132 I'm like, what am I talking about? I was assigned white at birth by a doctor, but I identify as a black man.

Speaker 132 And this whole time, the cashier is just kind of standing there. And I'm like, are you not going to say anything to this racist? She's like, sir, he's an actual black man.

Speaker 9 I said, actual black man?

Speaker 132 Do you understand how harmful those words are to transpigmented people like me?

Speaker 132 You know, and it's just like, how many black identifying white guys are going to have to suffer until people just start doing the right thing and affirming our identity.

Speaker 132 So the cashier is like, sir, you can either finish checking out or just leave.

Speaker 9 And I'm like, you keep calling me sir, but I identify as a woman.

Speaker 132 And she's like, I am so sorry, ma'am.

Speaker 132 And so I ended up getting like 50% off my order.

Speaker 132 So, anyways, I'm just really frustrated.

Speaker 39 Let me know what you guys think in the comments.

Speaker 18 Peace.

Speaker 43 Well, that brings me to a clip that I was tipped off. Oops, was tipped off to by the former New York bank who said, did you see the stats that are going around?

Speaker 32 I said, no, what's that?

Speaker 21 And I found a clip of said stats.

Speaker 213 In a shift from recent trends, new data suggests that the number of young people identifying as transgender or non-binary has declined sharply.

Speaker 162 According to findings from the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression, FIRE, which surveyed more than 60,000 60,000 undergraduate students across the United States.

Speaker 162 The share of respondents identifying as a gender other than male or female has fallen by nearly half over the past two years, from 6.8% in 2022 to 2023 to just 3.6% this year.

Speaker 162 The decline appears most pronounced at elite universities, where some campuses reported drops of up to 70%.

Speaker 162 While the reasons behind the shift remain unclear, Analysts point to a mix of cultural and political factors, including evolving public attitudes toward gender identity and heightened debate over related issues such as women's sports and public accommodations.

Speaker 162 Whatever the cause, it appears as though this trendy social contagion may be heading toward remission.

Speaker 144 50%.

Speaker 112 Wow.

Speaker 106 Wow.

Speaker 19 There's hope.

Speaker 61 There's light at the end of the tunnel.

Speaker 1 Except for the people who got mutilated.

Speaker 68 Well, yeah.

Speaker 110 No, that's that's bad.

Speaker 65 Of course.

Speaker 156 Of course.

Speaker 48 We've been following pig butchering for, what, a couple of years now?

Speaker 1 At least.

Speaker 55 And I've taken in the, because especially the Mercy Me guys, they're always laughing.

Speaker 22 They're always sending me the, because they always goad these

Speaker 47 scammers.

Speaker 55 And they're always like, hey, I'm Alice or Kim or whatever.

Speaker 1 The goading the scammers is fun.

Speaker 52 Yeah, but

Speaker 69 when you hear about, you know, these are slaves basically being whipped because they haven't gotten enough money out of these poor schlubs who fall for this time and time again.

Speaker 43 And then the Department of Justice released a statement about

Speaker 98 they rolled up one of these big pig butchering scams, and here's the report.

Speaker 213 The DOJ says it seized a staggering $15 billion in Bitcoin from a global pig butchering scam.

Speaker 41 The agency says it's the largest forfeiture in U.S.

Speaker 213 history.

Speaker 213 Federal prosecutors charged Chin Xi, a Cambodian tycoon known as Vincent, accusing him of running crypto fraud compounds where trafficked workers were beaten and forced to scam victims online.

Speaker 104 G's Prince holding group allegedly pulled in up to 30 million in a day, laundering stolen crypto through secret wallets.

Speaker 213 The FBI says the bust marks, quote, one of the largest financial fraud takedowns ever.

Speaker 174 G remains at large.

Speaker 33 $15

Speaker 50 billion.

Speaker 1 That's a business.

Speaker 9 Yes, that's a business.

Speaker 86 And just whip some slaves.

Speaker 21 $15 billion.

Speaker 82 that's that's a lot of money it's a lot of money

Speaker 1 he remains at large vincent

Speaker 1 vincent yeah vincent

Speaker 73 and then we have uh the ongoing uh

Speaker 62 blowing boats out of the water

Speaker 214 yeah i guess he blew another one up yeah the fifth one and uh here's the president with some statistics of his own well i don't want to tell you exactly but we are certainly looking at land now because we've got the sea very well under control

Speaker 214 We've had a couple of days where there isn't a boat to be found. And I view that as a good thing, not a bad thing.
But we had tremendous amounts coming in by boats, by very expensive boats.

Speaker 214 You know, they have a lot of money. Very fast, very expensive boats that were pretty big.
And the way you look at it is every boat that we knock out, we save 25,000 American lives.

Speaker 214 So every time you see a boat and you feel badly, you say, wow, that's rough. It is rough.
But if you lose three people and save 25,000 people, these are people that are killing our population.

Speaker 214 Every boat is saving 25,000 lives. And you can see it.
The boats get hit. And you see that fentanyl all over the ocean.
It's like floating in bags. It's all over the place.
And

Speaker 214 it's a tremendous, we're saving tremendous amounts of lives.

Speaker 48 I don't know where he gets the 25,000 lives saved or created from.

Speaker 1 I don't get that either. And most of those boats are headed to Europe or they're headed

Speaker 1 to a transfer point to go to... No, they're most of the

Speaker 1 it's been documented largely that they that the Venezuelans are a transfer point for cocaine through the through the various islands to

Speaker 1 ending up in Europe.

Speaker 9 Oh, okay.

Speaker 55 Oh, that's different. I thought you were saying these boats were going to Europe.

Speaker 1 No, the boats can't get that far.

Speaker 103 Ah, okay.

Speaker 1 But the no, the Venezuelan drugs, it's a transfer point for Colombian and other cocaine subsidies.

Speaker 32 This makes total sense.

Speaker 50 Thank you.

Speaker 143 Now it makes sense.

Speaker 50 This is Trump hitting out at the North Sea Nexus, like, no, we're not going to let you even get your drugs to launder all that money through the port of Rotterdam. Now it makes sense.

Speaker 1 Well, using it from that perspective, I guess it's gives it a different angle.

Speaker 106 Yeah.

Speaker 9 Yeah.

Speaker 22 Like, no, you know, you're not going to get, I'm not going to let you transport your drug money and drugs to get money and to fund whatever you're doing over there.

Speaker 60 No.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and it's not fentanyl.

Speaker 143 No, it's not fentanyl. I don't think he said fentanyl, did he?

Speaker 68 Yes, he did.

Speaker 17 Oh, he did.

Speaker 1 He said fentanyls very specifically.

Speaker 38 No, it's not fentanyl.

Speaker 62 Here's a longer ABC report, and a lot of politicians are very outraged by this, which I find puzzling.

Speaker 215 This morning, President Trump considering U.S. strikes on Venezuelan soil to combat drug cartels.

Speaker 214 Well, I don't want to tell you exactly, but we are certainly looking at land now because we've got the sea very well under control.

Speaker 215 The President also escalating U.S. operations against Venezuela's authoritarian leader, Nicolas Maduro.
Trump confirming he's authorized covert CIA action in the country.

Speaker 215 But when asked if the agency has the authority to take out Maduro, Trump, non-committal.

Speaker 214 But I think Venezuela is feeling heat.

Speaker 215 In a statement overnight, Venezuela accusing Trump of trying to legitimize a regime change operation.

Speaker 31 By the way, I don't think the president actually said that he has authorized the CIA.

Speaker 9 I think this is something that is.

Speaker 1 No, he didn't. He didn't.

Speaker 1 They're just putting, they're piecing the, they're

Speaker 1 docks.

Speaker 42 Exactly. And then they throw in a little nat pop quote of him saying, I think they're feeling the heat.

Speaker 9 It's very interesting that they're doing this.

Speaker 215 Trump, non-committal.

Speaker 214 But I think Venezuela's feeling heat.

Speaker 215 In a statement overnight, Venezuela accusing Trump of trying to legitimize a regime change operation to access the country's oil resources, saying they would bring up the matter at the UN Security Council today.

Speaker 215 It comes after the U.S. carried out its fifth deadly strike on an alleged drug boat off the coast of Venezuela.

Speaker 215 Trump posting this video on social media, saying six male narco-terrorists aboard the vessel were killed in the strike.

Speaker 215 The Trump administration's operation in the Caribbean first began in early September and has drawn fierce condemnation from Democratic lawmakers who say the strikes risk getting the U.S.

Speaker 215 into a full-fledged war.

Speaker 167 There's lots of people who have been designated terrorists that does not automatically give the authority to take lethal action.

Speaker 215 Asked why he's striking the boats instead of using traditional Coast Guard operations where officers can verify who is on the boat. Trump saying the Coast Guard boats are too slow.

Speaker 214 They have faster boats. Some of these boats are seriously, I mean, they're world-class speedboats,

Speaker 214 but they're not faster than missiles.

Speaker 215 So far, the administration has provided limited details and no evidence to prove

Speaker 215 27 people killed or attempting to traffic drugs to the U.S.

Speaker 9 as they claim.

Speaker 216 So there's a one one-in-four chance.

Speaker 34 This is Rand Paul.

Speaker 9 All of a sudden they throw him in.

Speaker 71 And why is he all mad about stuff now?

Speaker 135 To traffic drugs to the U.S.

Speaker 217 as they claim.

Speaker 216 So there's a one-in-four chance, statistically speaking, that one of these boats may not have had any drugs on it. We will never know because they were blown to smithereens.

Speaker 215 In a memo obtained by ABC News earlier this month, the administration told Congress that America is in a formal armed conflict and that drug cartels cartels are deemed unlawful combatants.

Speaker 22 Again, that's a memo that you send to Congress when you're invoking some kind of war power.

Speaker 45 This is done continuously, but they make it sound like it's just, he just dashed off a memo and said, thank you for your attention to this matter.

Speaker 135 Now, the Venezuelan government has repeatedly denounced the U.S.

Speaker 215 strike, saying they are, quote, a pure violation of international rights. Maduro calling them, quote, aggression all down the line.

Speaker 135 But U.S.

Speaker 215 officials accused Maduro of facilitating drug trafficking from Venezuela, a claim he denies.

Speaker 111 Hmm.

Speaker 79 Now, the whole CIA thing they bring in is interesting.

Speaker 75 Not sure exactly why they're doing that.

Speaker 1 It's probably some coded stuff we don't get.

Speaker 78 Possibly.

Speaker 1 I have a few clips here on,

Speaker 1 I think it's a public service.

Speaker 14 Okay.

Speaker 1 And this is the

Speaker 1 you know the about the protein fad.

Speaker 31 Oh, yes.

Speaker 86 Didn't we have some clips on this about the Kardashians and popcorn protein and everyone's talking protein this and protein that?

Speaker 171 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think we did in the past, but this is a kind of a from consumer, this was consumer reports doing some research and determining that most of the protein powders and stuff you get are so loaded with lead.

Speaker 114 Why?

Speaker 1 Why do they, why is lead in there they never explain why the lead is in there but most of it's probably a function of the uh of the extraction process or they i don't know what somebody can maybe there's a chemist out there that knows how this is done but this is a and they soft pedaled this on npr they soft pedaled it a little bit but anyone who and i don't do this i'm not a i figure a couple of pieces of steak or or lamb chops or

Speaker 1 might give you some protein that you need yeah i think you get your protein from that. Cheese has got a lot of protein in it.
There's a lot of product out there.

Speaker 1 You don't have to add protein powder to everything.

Speaker 1 But listen to this.

Speaker 54 This is a, this is a,

Speaker 1 I consider this a public service for us to play these clips on this show.

Speaker 191 Americans are obsessed with protein. What once was more of a niche interest has gone thoroughly mainstream.
Just check your local grocery store.

Speaker 191 Beef jerky, protein, boosted milk and yogurts, even soon, protein Pop-Tarts and Doritos. And of course, there are tons of protein powders.

Speaker 191 They're commonly made from whey, which is derived from milk, or from pea protein. And according to a consumer reports analysis, they likely contain something else.
Toxic heavy metals, especially lead.

Speaker 195 Woo!

Speaker 9 Yeah.

Speaker 145 All right.

Speaker 109 NPR is doing this as a public service as well, I guess.

Speaker 1 I think so. This is a fascinating.
This is, of of course, one of their separate things. It's not part of their daily news, but I'm sure they'll play it a few times.

Speaker 1 But this is, to me, frightening because lead is one of the worst.

Speaker 1 I mean, it's a cumulative pro

Speaker 1 to get lead salts in you. It's cumulative.
It causes all kinds of neurological problems.

Speaker 43 It's like radiation.

Speaker 47 It stacks.

Speaker 1 It makes you sick and it makes you dumb.

Speaker 42 What?

Speaker 30 Sorry, I was too busy licking paint.

Speaker 17 Part two.

Speaker 191 Investigative reporter, Paris Martinote.

Speaker 4 What is this happening?

Speaker 174 You have

Speaker 4 you're all way off balance.

Speaker 4 Hold on.

Speaker 57 You've got right channel only.

Speaker 23 I don't.

Speaker 1 I didn't.

Speaker 1 I didn't send it that way.

Speaker 33 No.

Speaker 8 Yes, you did.

Speaker 11 Okay. Yeah.

Speaker 9 It happened over here.

Speaker 43 I'm sorry.

Speaker 62 I have to look at it.

Speaker 1 And I'm going to go back and download these.

Speaker 1 Again, I re-download them and take a look and see how you got that.

Speaker 7 But here we go.

Speaker 191 Investigative reporter, Paris Martineau joins us now to share what they've learned. Okay, so first of all, I have to confess that I am one of those Americans that is obsessed with protein.

Speaker 191 I actually had some protein powder in my smoothie this morning. So this is personal.
Do I need to throw out my protein powder? Like how alarmed should consumers be?

Speaker 218 Yeah, there's no reason for anyone to panic. What we basically found is we tested 23 popular protein powders and shakes.

Speaker 218 And we found that for more than two-thirds of the products that we analyzed, a single serving of them contained more lead than what our food safety experts say is safe to consume in a day.

Speaker 218 Some of the products had more than 10 times the level that our experts say is safe.

Speaker 191 That sounds bad.

Speaker 218 I mean, it's not good. I will say that.

Speaker 43 I didn't even know that there was a recommended dosage of lead on a daily basis.

Speaker 52 I would think I want no lead.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you want no lead, but there is a recommended minimum that you can tolerate, they believe. And you have to have more than that,

Speaker 1 you're exceeding

Speaker 1 consumption of lead that your body really can have. And they're talking about 10x, and that's just in one serving.

Speaker 1 And these people that are protein nuts are listening to them.

Speaker 22 Five servings a day, maybe.

Speaker 9 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And which counts, as far as I can tell, I think this may be accounting for the septum rings and the funny makeup and the

Speaker 1 Democrats streaming on TikTok.

Speaker 37 There you go.

Speaker 218 Given that, some some of the products we tested are fine to have occasionally, and even the ones with the highest lead levels are far below the concentration needed to cause immediate harm.

Speaker 218 The real risk of lead is even if you are exposed to kind of low levels consistently over time, that lead could kind of build up in the body and eventually cause problems farther down the line.

Speaker 218 So I'd say the advice is more scrutinize your protein shakes and take a look at what you're using to make an informed decision rather than immediately freak up.

Speaker 191 And maybe maybe it sounds layoff, I mean, in the sense of like not having it every day or not having it three times a day.

Speaker 218 That's one of the things that surprised me personally reporting out this story: like you, and like many Americans, I was like really worried that I wasn't getting enough protein.

Speaker 218 I totally bought into the protein mania.

Speaker 218 But talking to nutrition experts and researchers in protein, the thing I heard again and again is for the average person, you can very easily get all the protein you need from eating whole foods.

Speaker 22 And it's, it doesn't make much sense sense to turn towards protein supplements so do you have any before we get to the last clip here do you have any information on on on the effects of too much lead i mean do you really think that this could lead to uh errant behavior and posting on tickets yeah absolutely

Speaker 1 well that doesn't mean we can you can do a you can hear you've got your robot there we haven't talked to her all day oh yes let's talk to the ask her about what are some of the effects of lead poisoning and what uh

Speaker 1 we got to get her to talk about.

Speaker 1 Can it change your

Speaker 1 lead poisoning in general? Then maybe we can come up with some

Speaker 156 okay. Error.

Speaker 68 What are some of the symptoms that people will show mentally from lead poisoning?

Speaker 208 Mental symptoms from lead poisoning can include irritability, anxiety, depression, and confusion. You might also see memory problems, trouble concentrating, or even hallucinations in severe cases.

Speaker 208 Kids could act hyperactive or have learning delays. It's sneaky.
Those effects build up slowly if exposure is ongoing.

Speaker 187 Hmm.

Speaker 45 Error, could it turn you into a rabid lunatic Democrat?

Speaker 208 No, lead poisoning won't turn anyone into a rabid lunatic Democrat.

Speaker 157 Oh, please, you're biased.

Speaker 1 Shut up.

Speaker 1 She is biased. That is a very biased bot.

Speaker 73 And by the way, how many emails did you get about the black patenter of the airplane?

Speaker 1 I only got two.

Speaker 60 Oh, I got several.

Speaker 83 I got several.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it turns out the airplane was just a balloon.

Speaker 79 Yes, two balloons moving forward in flight.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so it wasn't really much of an airplane, but okay. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And error had it wrong then, really. Yes,

Speaker 1 she should have clarified. So you're right.
Error is a stooge in the Democrat Party.

Speaker 31 That's right. Error is a stooge.

Speaker 144 All right.

Speaker 150 Final clip of the bad, bad protein fad.

Speaker 191 So you said you tested 23 powders and pre-made shakes. How did you decide to test those products?

Speaker 218 We worked with kind of a market research team within Consumer Reports to identify some of the best-selling.

Speaker 218 protein powders and shakes available at a variety of different brands from places like Amazon or Walmart, but also kind of we also bought some of the shakes in person at health food stores or supermarkets and then we took those made sure that we got a couple different samples of each product that represented at least two I guess two to three different lots of the product and then sent them off to the lab to be analyzed so people can go and check your reporting to see if their products were tested but broadly are there certain types of protein products that are more likely to have lead and other toxic metals in them yeah so generally speaking, plant-based protein products emerged as a point of concern.

Speaker 218 Like nearly all of the plant-based products we had had, we tested had elevated lead levels.

Speaker 218 The lead levels we found in plant-based protein products were on average nine times the amount found in those made of like dairy proteins, like whey, and twice as great as beef-based proteins.

Speaker 218 When it came to, I guess, the protein powders and shakes made with whey or dairy-based proteins, those generally had the lowest amounts of lead.

Speaker 218 But still, half of the products we tested had high enough levels of contamination that our experts advise against taking them daily.

Speaker 191 Paris Marino, investigative reporter for Consumer Reports. Thank you so much.

Speaker 111 Wow.

Speaker 116 Of course, it's a lot of fun.

Speaker 1 The irony here is that the vegans

Speaker 1 eat the plant-based stuff because they can't have whey.

Speaker 42 Yes, and it's even worse.

Speaker 1 That's even worse, which makes nothing but sense.

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Speaker 163 In the morning to the trolls in the troll room, they count your shows.

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Speaker 32 Very helpful, very helpful commentary,

Speaker 51 stuff like that.

Speaker 57 But we also have people who send us artwork and create artwork, and we were very delighted with the art that we chose for episode 1807.

Speaker 1 We titled it Keyboard Warrior.

Speaker 86 Nessworks did a great piece,

Speaker 43 which we are pretty pretty sure was not 100% AI, if at all.

Speaker 55 And it was

Speaker 43 a kid backpacking everything in the school.

Speaker 45 And right there on the chalkboard, no agenda, learn chalk.

Speaker 141 And it was just a cute piece.

Speaker 51 It hit all the buttons for us.

Speaker 55 I don't think there was any argument at all that that was the winning piece.

Speaker 1 No, we had some other pieces that we discussed, including

Speaker 1 it was one that we're supposed to talk about,

Speaker 1 not to scold the artist.

Speaker 9 I don't remember what we're gonna say.

Speaker 1 I do, I do.

Speaker 2 I had to go look at it.

Speaker 1 Unfortunately, I don't have it open.

Speaker 53 Well, I thought the OG Podfather was great.

Speaker 43 I like that one.

Speaker 84 Black Guy.

Speaker 123 Black Guy invented Podcast.

Speaker 17 Oh, the Black Guy, that was funny.

Speaker 1 I agree.

Speaker 143 That was funny.

Speaker 1 No, there was one here. Let me see if I can find it.

Speaker 76 It might be on page two.

Speaker 17 It was something

Speaker 1 one of our regulars.

Speaker 48 We had a lot of Glenn Beck with the Israeli flag clothing, which is like, okay.

Speaker 1 And we're not doing that. No.

Speaker 21 I don't remember what.

Speaker 1 There was a Zoomers and Boomers by Blue Acorn, which also had the blackboard, but it was too small.

Speaker 97 I don't remember what it was, John.

Speaker 72 It was something that I do remember us saying we got to excoriate someone for that, but I can't remember what it was.

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, we lost track of it.

Speaker 1 Next time I'm going to write it down.

Speaker 84 Well, there's a concept.

Speaker 171 Yeah, you know.

Speaker 69 Oh, I know.

Speaker 82 I know what it was.

Speaker 79 It was Darren with

Speaker 43 Albert E. Newman.

Speaker 9 Oh, right, right, right.

Speaker 212 Which is a very funny piece.

Speaker 150 He had Alfred E.

Speaker 20 Newman from Mad Magazine being injected, and they had a little sign.

Speaker 60 He's a polio pioneer.

Speaker 1 And we can't use that and john will explain why it's a licensed uh uh trademarked head in fact i one of the i think i may be the first person who licensed it for a book i did in the 80s uh on the macintosh we got a hold of mad magazine and licensed the alfred e newman character because they'll sue you over this god they should

Speaker 1 and they should

Speaker 1 and they uh so we got a license to use the alfred e newman character on the book cover it which it was funny And

Speaker 1 so

Speaker 1 we can't just casually use Elfred E. Newman because obviously the license for that book is not the same as using it for Elmart for the No Agenda show.

Speaker 7 No.

Speaker 1 But the funny thing was,

Speaker 1 it turns out in discussions with the magazine, the publisher, Gaines, I think, or whoever it was at the time,

Speaker 1 said that no one ever asks the license. Really? Like one of the few B whatever.

Speaker 1 He said they go after you, yes, but it's not like a popular thing to license.

Speaker 30 And do you remember how much you paid for it?

Speaker 1 I think we got it free.

Speaker 156 Wow.

Speaker 40 Just for some credit?

Speaker 111 Yeah.

Speaker 145 Amazing.

Speaker 1 I don't remember paying money for it.

Speaker 108 And what was the book?

Speaker 1 Dvorak's Guide to the Macintosh, I think was the name of it.

Speaker 78 Something like that.

Speaker 22 Really? I didn't know that

Speaker 98 you did an actual guide to the Macintosh.

Speaker 111 Yeah.

Speaker 82 I thought you hated Macs.

Speaker 1 No, I never hated Macs. I used to have a couple.

Speaker 106 Oh.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but did you really use them?

Speaker 31 Yeah, they're it's a good machine.

Speaker 111 Yeah.

Speaker 50 What was this bad?

Speaker 1 I just I what I got the reputation for hating him because I was named the anti-editor of Mac User Magazine. No.

Speaker 1 And I was given the assignment by the Felix Dennis, the billionaire guy who owned the place. Was that the fat guy?

Speaker 1 To be no, no, not at all.

Speaker 1 Thin guy. And he is a you know, I had to go after I had to be a counter a counterpoint to everything.
So I just bitched and moaned and complained.

Speaker 23 You can't be

Speaker 144 A paid troll.

Speaker 17 I was a paid troll in the early days.

Speaker 106 That's lovely.

Speaker 50 Yeah. A lot of respect.

Speaker 1 And then everyone got all mad at me.

Speaker 106 All the time. Yeah.

Speaker 1 To this day, they're still irked.

Speaker 19 See, man, the Mac is a great machine, man.

Speaker 121 It's really good.

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Speaker 147 John gets the long note.

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Speaker 21 Eating this way isn't always easy, but it has been a life-changing in my mind, body and soul.

Speaker 44 And then he says, last week you guys played a clip about flu jab potentially causing COVID down the road.

Speaker 46 Well, I guess he has a story here.

Speaker 102 In November 22, my 84-year-old dad got COVID and ended up hospitalized for about a week because of dehydration and overall weakness that can happen with the flu.

Speaker 102 When COVID was first released, the first couple of weeks, I like that.

Speaker 25 The first couple of weeks was like he was cautious of his movements because of his age and because of a 30-year medicated heart condition he he had.

Speaker 43 After he realized it was a scam, he picked up his car in June 20 and went on a 3,000-mile trek around the country, visiting friends and family along the way, at least the ones that let him in.

Speaker 102 He was smart enough to avoid the COVID jab and he wasn't licking any doorknobs, but he was freely

Speaker 157 moving throughout life, meeting new people along the way on multiple trips, 2021-22.

Speaker 44 After his hospitalization, he still went on a couple more short trips, including attending grandkids sporting events throughout the Midwest, but he never went back to 100% of his pre-hospitalization spunk and had a lingering cough.

Speaker 40 March of 23, he spent the weekend with my son, helping to teach one of my son's friends how to shoot at the range, something he really enjoyed doing.

Speaker 45 On that Sunday, he went home, went to sleep, and never woke up.

Speaker 30 As I was going through his affairs, I found a statement from a medical appointment from October 22 where they offered a flu shot and he received that jab.

Speaker 71 This is an insinuation.

Speaker 9 As soon as I read that,

Speaker 143 I told my wife that this.

Speaker 1 Worthy of Tunker Carlson show.

Speaker 37 Right.

Speaker 150 As soon as I read that, I told my wife that the flu shot is what killed him.

Speaker 42 Yes, he was 84 years old with comorbidities, but he was active, had a social life, had kids, grandkids, and great-grandkids, that he would call and text almost daily to be our biggest cheerleader in life.

Speaker 106 Wow.

Speaker 97 Is that the end of the note here?

Speaker 45 COVID started me down the rabbit hole, but this caused a deep dive on the medical industrial complex.

Speaker 157 The more I learn, the more disgusted I become. Anyway, happy anniversary.

Speaker 88 Thank you. Sorry to hear about that.

Speaker 68 But yes,

Speaker 9 that seems plausible.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, it does actually, unfortunately. Douglas Murray's up.

Speaker 9 Douglas Murray?

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Speaker 1 Is this the newest of the. Did you notice she sent us a note today correcting this note?

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Speaker 100 Well, and I sent it to Jay.

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Speaker 44 Hile, boys. Inviting all southern Arizona slaves to the happy birthday, no agenda meetup on Thursday, October 23rd at 4 p.m.

Speaker 21 on the patio at Canyon's Crown.

Speaker 44 Yes, there will be cake.

Speaker 86 Thank you for your 18 years of courage and deconstruction, says Dame Beth, Baroness of Baja, Arizona.

Speaker 1 Nice.

Speaker 17 Onward with,

Speaker 1 we have a note that came in. This is Ron Sherman in Colorado Springs.
Came with a row of ducks, a small row of ducks, 222.22.

Speaker 1 And a handwritten note. Wow, it's been a couple of crazy minutes, hasn't it?

Speaker 1 And it's longhand. And I've been there for most of them.

Speaker 1 I feel like a graduate of the No Agenda Institute of Higher Learning. You've helped me see things.

Speaker 1 And he's got a bunch of stuff scratched out with a.

Speaker 32 I wonder what that was.

Speaker 23 I don't know. It's scratched out.

Speaker 139 With a different point of view.

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Speaker 31 Oh, very good.

Speaker 57 Which I have learned from one of our boots on the ground, Gen Zers, that Gen Zers, not only can they mainly not write cursive, they also can't read cursive.

Speaker 31 Neither can we, actually.

Speaker 9 We're having ours.

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You got grazers, the whole thing.

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Speaker 41 ITM, brothers, glory to God indeed.

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Speaker 143 Reference, F-bomb, broad 226 show 1807.

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Speaker 101 Yes, that was the F-bomb that I noticed.

Speaker 9 Oh,

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Speaker 60 He had blessed you to discern the news for us, thus showing us things we should be praying for.

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Speaker 1 does that say that on there?

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I haven't been shaking it vigorously.

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Speaker 1 I'm going to get bum ride. Adam, it looks like you're railing against the North Sea Nexus is catching on.
In the context of

Speaker 1 how the last two world wars started, to quote Tucker,

Speaker 1 Tucker, during his interview with the Seed Man,

Speaker 1 the, the one group, it says the, the, the, the one group that doesn't get credit for making the world a worse place is the Brits.

Speaker 24 Yeah.

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Speaker 71 There's your Alex Jones jingle.

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Speaker 34 I actually

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Speaker 92 Oh, well, if we just said that, frogs gay.

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Speaker 129 I don't like them putting chemicals in the water that turn the friggin' frogs gay.

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Speaker 170 That's better. Alex from Frosty Laurentians, California.

Speaker 97 Is that how I pronounce it?

Speaker 4 Laurentians?

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Speaker 108 I'd like to wish a happy birthday, October 16th, that's today, to my smoking hot wife, Sarah.

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Speaker 21 Hopefully, this minor slippage won't earn us a one-way ticket to hell.

Speaker 44 She is the best thing that happened to me in my life.

Speaker 101 I do not know where and in what state I would be in if it were not for her grounding skills.

Speaker 21 Moreover, I am grateful that she is still keeping up with me.

Speaker 43 A couple years ago, Sarah hit me in the mouth, and I haven't missed many episodes since.

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Speaker 87 A dedouching isn't order.

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Speaker 86 Here's to another 15 more years at least.

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Speaker 46 Alex from the Frosty Laurentians.

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Speaker 1 By the way, his wife hit him in the mouth. I think I admire the female listeners to this show who who do that.

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Speaker 32 And we thank, profusely thank these executive and associate executive producers for episode 1808, 18 years of No Agenda coming up on the 26th.

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Speaker 9 Our formula is this:

Speaker 104 we go out, we hit people in the mouth.

Speaker 1 Nancy, Nancy.

Speaker 55 All right, let's see.

Speaker 4 What do I have?

Speaker 1 How about some ice stuff?

Speaker 7 I got an NPR.

Speaker 121 You got ice stuff? You got ice stuff?

Speaker 4 Okay.

Speaker 1 NPR up first ICE tactic.

Speaker 169 By now, you might have seen videos on the news or on social media of federal immigration officers detaining immigrants using what look to be increasingly aggressive tactics.

Speaker 206 A recent poll by the New York Times and Sienna College finds that while a majority of voters support deporting people who entered the country illegally, 51% say the Trump administration's tactics have gone too far.

Speaker 189 NPR criminal justice reporter Meg Anderson has this report on the tactics immigration and customs enforcement agents are using.

Speaker 168 A video from Hyattsville, Maryland shows a man pinned to the ground by two ICE officers. He pleads in Spanish and English for someone to help him.

Speaker 168 One officer drops his gun during the exchange and fumbles for it. Then he appears to point it at bystanders.

Speaker 129 Put the gun down.

Speaker 6 Put the gun down.

Speaker 168 Emily Covington, an assistant director of ICE Public Affairs, told NPR in a statement that drawing a weapon can be used to stop a situation from escalating.

Speaker 168 Another video, this one from the Chicago area, appears to show a man getting shot in the head with a ball containing chemical irritants outside an ICE facility.

Speaker 153 That man has sued the Trump administration.

Speaker 43 Now, is there more than this one?

Speaker 9 Because you said.

Speaker 1 It goes on, but it's the same thing. It's just complaining.

Speaker 34 Well, no, they're setting it up.

Speaker 93 They're setting up for an event where we see this is it.

Speaker 39 These guys are no good.

Speaker 165 This is horrible.

Speaker 115 This is what you get.

Speaker 1 We need civil war.

Speaker 77 These people are eating protein powder, John.

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, there's no doubt about that.

Speaker 34 Meanwhile,

Speaker 42 in Europe,

Speaker 60 certainly in monarch Europe, they are just psyoping their populations.

Speaker 81 Like, oh, you know, we've got to take you back in time 80 years.

Speaker 224 Sweden is readying for war.

Speaker 224 Since 2024, it has invested around 7.7 million euros to upgrade its 64,000 shelters built during the Second World War and the Cold War, like this one in Sweden's capital of Stockholm.

Speaker 224 The Geldans car park seems like an ordinary underground parking area carved into the rock face, but it can actually also serve as a public shelter for 1.2 thousand people.

Speaker 210 It can resist

Speaker 210 the blast and

Speaker 210 the debris and such things

Speaker 210 that come with a bomb.

Speaker 210 And then it's airtight, so it even

Speaker 210 resists

Speaker 210 biogas or chemical gas or even nuclear waste.

Speaker 224 With tensions with Russia increasing since the Fulskiel war in Ukraine, the Swedish government has promised to increase its civil defence budget by seven times.

Speaker 224 But Johanninson says the money allocated is unlikely to cover the cost of fixing all of the shelters, let alone building new ones.

Speaker 224 Sweden's civil defense minister warned last year that a military attack could not be ruled out.

Speaker 42 Don't worry, citizens.

Speaker 59 We're just increasing your taxes and spending it on war stuff because, you know, you know, Russia could attack chemical weapons.

Speaker 29 We're doing it for your safety to protect your freedoms.

Speaker 1 It's really crazy. Protect your freedoms.
Yes.

Speaker 41 Meanwhile, Geerd Wilders, you know, they have the

Speaker 38 word, not decommissioned, demissionnaire.

Speaker 73 They have the caretaker government in the Netherlands because the cabinet fell, you know, so, you know, they're gearing up for, you know, Geerd Wilders was the one who said, okay, well, look, you guys don't want to do anything about these immigrants, then, okay, the cabinet falls.

Speaker 22 And so elections will be coming up again and right on queue.

Speaker 137 We want 60,000 Syrian refugees in the Netherlands to return to Syria immediately.

Speaker 137 And we want, maybe one of the most important things, we want all criminal foreigners to be deported from the Netherlands.

Speaker 108 Yeah, and the crowd goes crazy.

Speaker 71 It was in Hungary, so there was no crowd to go crazy.

Speaker 44 But that's the kind of talk they want to hear now, I believe.

Speaker 37 Not the technical crowd.

Speaker 1 Probably, but that's nothing that's going to come of it.

Speaker 52 Well, I don't know.

Speaker 52 It depends on the Dutch.

Speaker 97 That's really, it depends on them if they want to do it.

Speaker 1 Well, they put up with a lot, it seems to me.

Speaker 68 Oh, well, yeah, they do.

Speaker 25 Let's see.

Speaker 116 I have some shutdown stuff,

Speaker 1 which

Speaker 1 I have one shutdown clip.

Speaker 7 Okay, let's play this.

Speaker 14 A a federal court there.

Speaker 174 There's your

Speaker 174 there's your uh your your off uh off-axis uh NPR clips.

Speaker 45 It's only with your NPR clips.

Speaker 1 These are all new ones, too.

Speaker 62 Did you clip them yourself? Yeah,

Speaker 111 yep.

Speaker 1 Well, yeah, you're I mean, there's one clip where I didn't clip myself,

Speaker 1 actually, but you're heavy on the right.

Speaker 21 You're heavy on the right.

Speaker 62 Here we go.

Speaker 167 A federal court says President Trump has to stop firing workers during the government shutdown. U.S.

Speaker 167 District Judge Susan Ilston in San Francisco issued the ruling after federal agencies started laying off workers last week. Trump has said he's targeting what he calls Democrat agencies.

Speaker 167 Democrats say they're not intimidated by Trump, blaming them for the layoffs.

Speaker 167 Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer says Democrats are holding firm on their demands for Congress to extend health care subsidies.

Speaker 225 Neither Trump nor congressional Republicans are even trying to solve the health care crisis.

Speaker 1 And that is just a virus.

Speaker 31 It's a crisis.

Speaker 1 The American people.

Speaker 167 Meanwhile, Republicans are confident in their strategy to not negotiate with Democrats on health care until the government is reopened. Here's Senate Majority Leader John Thune.

Speaker 73 I think the American people are wondering when the Senate Democrats are going to end their temper tantrum and vote to reopen the government.

Speaker 167 A bill to temporarily fund the government again failed in the Senate today. Government workers are feeling the effects of the shutdown as it stretches into week three.

Speaker 167 Gabriella Paul at Member Station WUSF spoke with a federal worker who says it's affecting her finances and mental health.

Speaker 226 Tiara Carter answers the phones for the Social Security Administration in Tampa. She's working without pay until the shutdown ends.

Speaker 183 We're stressing about the fight that's going on in the White House. We're also stressing out about how we're going to handle our financial situations at home.

Speaker 226 Last week, the Trump administration began mass layoffs across several federal agencies. Carter says her department is spared for now.

Speaker 183 To be completely honest, I feel ashamed to be an American citizen right now. I mean, who does this to their own essential workers?

Speaker 226 Every day the shutdown drags on, Carter says the agency's backlog of service requests grows.

Speaker 112 Yeah.

Speaker 1 A little slanted reporting there, seems to me.

Speaker 115 Just a tad, perhaps.

Speaker 1 I have PR pushing the Democrat agenda.

Speaker 1 Don't give them money.

Speaker 76 I was talking to

Speaker 55 Tom Luongo of the Gold, Guns, and Goats podcast, and he said, Oh, no, what's really happening here?

Speaker 45 He says, is they're shutting down all of the climate change stuff.

Speaker 68 That's why you don't hear about it.

Speaker 48 He says it's got to be a trillion dollars worth of climate change stuff all over the government that they're shutting down.

Speaker 39 So the way I understood it is this kind of a red herring, these jobs, the riff, the reduction in force, but it's really money being shut off from climate change stuff, which is probably quite a lot.

Speaker 31 Stuff is the right word.

Speaker 1 Scam is the word.

Speaker 227 Good morning. I'm an air traffic controller here.
Do you want to help aviation safety by ending the shutdown?

Speaker 134 This member of the Air Traffic Controllers Union handed leaflets to travelers outside Reagan National Airport in Arlington, Virginia Tuesday to highlight the impact of the ongoing government shutdown.

Speaker 5 The American worker that lives paycheck to paycheck was open, which is almost every air traffic controller, cannot last without pay.

Speaker 212 In a social media post, the White House Office and Management and Budget said Tuesday that it is preparing to, quote, ride out the Democrats by continuing to pay troops and law enforcement and more reduction in force notices.

Speaker 126 We are closing up Democrat programs that we think we disagree with, and they're never going to open again.

Speaker 134 At a news conference, Democrats called the Trump administration's layoffs illegal.

Speaker 114 Firing and threatening to fire federal employees is part of the Trump administration's campaign to inflict trauma on our federal workforce.

Speaker 217 House Speaker Mike Johnson has warned warned this shutdown could be the longest in history as lawmakers remain deadlocked.

Speaker 217 But President Trump says his administration has identified funds to at least pay the military, a move some Democrats say is likely illegal.

Speaker 229 My understanding of this is they have every right to move the funds around. If the Democrats want to go to court and challenge truths being paid, bring it.

Speaker 212 Erica Brown, CBS News, Capitol Hill.

Speaker 7 Bring it, hi, Big Bad Mike Johnson.

Speaker 14 Bring it.

Speaker 1 Bring it, I tell you.

Speaker 140 A rare Jen Psaki clip on the show

Speaker 65 regarding the shutdown.

Speaker 200 Department of Homeland Security Secretary Christine Noome, who never passes up the opportunity to get in front of a camera, often in cringy outfits, has even gone as far as to tape this video to be played at TSA checkpoints at airports across the country.

Speaker 46 That's Ice Barbie.

Speaker 57 Christy Noam.

Speaker 1 Oh, it's Christy Noome she's talking about.

Speaker 145 Yes, I'll play it again.

Speaker 200 Department of Homeland Security Secretary Christy Noam, who never passes up the opportunity to get in front of a camera, often in cringy outfits, has even gone as far as to tape this video to be played at TSA checkpoints at airports across the country.

Speaker 82 Isn't it just rude for women to make rude comments about their wardrobe?

Speaker 22 Isn't that something that women just don't do?

Speaker 1 If it's a Democrat woman condemning a Republican woman, it's okay.

Speaker 9 Protein popcorn.

Speaker 156 Yeah, there you go.

Speaker 162 Democrats in Congress refuse to fund the federal government. And because of this, many of our operations are impacted, and most of our TSA employees are working without pay.

Speaker 200 You know, this is usually the video that's like, stay safe. If you see something, say something, whatever it may be.

Speaker 200 Now, unfortunately for Noam, that video is not going to be seen by the number of air travelers she had hoped. And that's because airports across the country are refusing to air it.

Speaker 200 Officials in Buffalo, Charlotte, Cleveland, Los Angeles, Phoenix, Seattle, and Portland, Oregon all have said that the video violates internal policies as well as state and local laws.

Speaker 50 Wow, what a great report, Jen.

Speaker 57 Can't believe she's still on the air with that stuff.

Speaker 59 This in from the quad screen.

Speaker 60 The grand jury indicted John Bolton.

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, that was a foregone conclusion.

Speaker 145 Yes.

Speaker 78 But what he was indicted for, we're not sure.

Speaker 1 I think it's for having classified documents on his possession.

Speaker 38 I think he's sniffing farts in public.

Speaker 1 Well, that could be too, but I don't know what the offense is.

Speaker 75 Anything's possible.

Speaker 111 I think we had

Speaker 4 January 6th stuff.

Speaker 9 We had that.

Speaker 77 Oh, yes, we do have one climate change quick clip.

Speaker 220 The UN's climate agency says there was a record increase in carbon dioxide levels in the atmosphere last year. It says the rate of the increase has tripled since the 1960s.

Speaker 220 The director of the European Union's Copernicus Climate Change Service is Carlo Biantempo.

Speaker 190 The most surprising element is that we are surprised that we reach a new peak.

Speaker 221 The main factor has been our additional influx of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere. If we continue on this path, we are very likely to see the exceedance of the 1.5 degrees.

Speaker 205 Shut up.

Speaker 1 Okay, well, you're going to play that. I hate, let's go back.

Speaker 17 Let's go back 43 years.

Speaker 33 Okay.

Speaker 140 43 years ago, that would put me at about 20-something.

Speaker 21 All right, I'm ready.

Speaker 1 This is the climate CBS report from Dan Rather.

Speaker 44 1982.

Speaker 22 Do we need, you know what we need?

Speaker 4 Hold on a sec. We need a harp.

Speaker 40 We can't just go back in time without the harp.

Speaker 92 So people have to feel like we're really doing this.

Speaker 46 Okay, here we go.

Speaker 50 Going back in time on no agenda to 1982.

Speaker 221 Concern about rising temperatures on planet Earth heated up a hearing here in in Washington today.

Speaker 221 For years, scientists have theorized about the dangers of the so-called greenhouse effect, the warming of the Earth's atmosphere due to the burning of coal and oil.

Speaker 221 And in recent months, as David Culhane reports, research has uncovered facts to support that theory.

Speaker 221 Many scientists claim that the temperature of the Earth's atmosphere has been rising over the past 100 years, that the great sheets of pack ice in Antarctica are melting at a much more rapid rate than previously.

Speaker 221 And finally, that the sea level has been rising with increasing swiftness over the past 40 years.

Speaker 221 If these scientists are correct, about 25% of Florida would be flooded, along with low-lying areas all over the world. Climate changes could produce widespread disruption of agriculture.

Speaker 221 The American farm belt might be too dry, and the wheat and corn crops would have to move to Canada.

Speaker 221 Scientists blame the odorless, colorless carbon dioxide gas for these potentially dangerous changes around the planet. It is the greenhouse effect.

Speaker 221 The gas allows sunlight to filter down and warm the earth. But like the glass of a greenhouse, the carbon dioxide tends to trap heat so that it cannot rise into space.

Speaker 221 The scientists maintain that the coal, oil, and gas we've been burning for a hundred years have produced more and more carbon dioxide and helped overheat the earth.

Speaker 221 Now, some political leaders endorse the demands for more CO2 monitoring stations, like this one in Hawaii, and they share the anger of the scientists at Reagan administration budget cuts at a time when they feel closer to getting definitive answers.

Speaker 221 We are not doing the kind of research that we should be doing to determine whether or not these scientists who were so alarmed are correct in their assessment.

Speaker 221 And what they find out will affect the lives and fortunes of millions of people, the very survival of cities like this one. David Culhane, CBS News, New York.

Speaker 11 That's a great clip.

Speaker 9 Where'd you get that from?

Speaker 1 It was just float. Someone dug it up and it was floating around.
Oh, man.

Speaker 115 42 years this scam has been 43.

Speaker 50 And that's after the whole We're Gonna Die of Frostbite.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 113 really amazing.

Speaker 57 Well, before we go to break here, I just want to mention there was a pretty good idea from Kiwi Chris.

Speaker 55 You know, I've been looking at the prices of the ultimate No Agenda meetup at the Sphere.

Speaker 24 Oh, yeah, the Sphere.

Speaker 60 In Vegas, yeah.

Speaker 44 So it costs about a million and a half dollars to rent the sphere for one 24-hour period and about a million and a half dollars for all the production.

Speaker 88 And he says, you know, I just heard the plans for the show at the sphere.

Speaker 39 I'm sure it would be just magnificent.

Speaker 30 However, I think you've missed the part that will be the thing that really brings them in.

Speaker 57 And I thought, you know, we might be able to crack this financial nut of $3 million.

Speaker 45 He says, No Agenda, the Musical.

Speaker 60 And I'm like, this is a great idea.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think No Agenda the Musical could be a big hit.

Speaker 143 I think that our end of show mixers who love their AI so much should be

Speaker 1 doing working on it as we speak.

Speaker 88 Musical numbers.

Speaker 21 He says, all the deconstruction you will ever need, sung by John and Adam with a special opening dance number by the keeper, commentary blogger, Eli the Coffee Guy, Linda Liu, and Brian with an I.

Speaker 170 That way you can produce a video, double album, t-shirts, songbook.

Speaker 120 Think of all the merch exit strategy.

Speaker 15 This is it.

Speaker 34 No agenda, the musical.

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Speaker 9 Yeah, I need your buy-in.

Speaker 60 I need your buy-in on this.

Speaker 81 I need your buy-in.

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Speaker 32 I'm going to show my support by donating to no agenda. Imagine all the people who could do that.

Speaker 128 Oh, yeah, that'd be fab.

Speaker 128 Getting there on no agenda

Speaker 128 in the morning.

Speaker 30 We got two meetup reports from Texas where a lot of people were hanging out together.

Speaker 45 It seems like a lot of people from Texas donate in general as well.

Speaker 54 We do have a night.

Speaker 30 We've got a pair of secretary generals, of course, the birthday calendar.

Speaker 44 Everybody wants to hear their birthday.

Speaker 50 And John is now going to thank the producers who supported us $50 and above.

Speaker 17 Well, first of all, I want to play this bonus clip.

Speaker 158 Bonus clip?

Speaker 1 Yeah, it turns out that the world,

Speaker 2 what's the date today?

Speaker 25 Today is October 16th.

Speaker 9 Oh, that's weird.

Speaker 1 Because on October 14th,

Speaker 1 the world should have had this massive change

Speaker 1 because of some resonance.

Speaker 1 Well, play this clip and it'll take us. Well, I could save this for.

Speaker 50 No, no, no, now I want to hear it.

Speaker 21 Is this the Schuman resonance?

Speaker 24 No.

Speaker 1 No, I don't know what resonance this is, but it was supposed to be, you know, like the 14th,

Speaker 1 we're going to have a different world, and it's the 16th, and I don't see it.

Speaker 9 Well, I want to hear it now.

Speaker 230 Mark the date. On the 14th of October, we are experiencing something extraordinary, which is timelessness.
Because the past, the future, and the present will become one.

Speaker 230 And no, this doesn't happen every October 14th. This is a once-in-history alignment known as the golden intersection of timelines.

Speaker 230 So exactly 443 years ago, Pope Gregory XIII changed the calendar and distorted the natural flow of time. He reformed time itself and with that we began living in disharmony.

Speaker 230 We are constantly running after time instead of flowing with nature. Time is not linear, it is a spiral and our calendar doesn't acknowledge that.

Speaker 230 And that's what we're being reminded of on the 14th of October. Why that date? Because in 1582, Pope Gregory signed the decree that introduced his calendar until October 14th, 2025.

Speaker 230 There are precisely 161.803 days. And that number mirrors the golden ratio.
This is the divine proportion. It is found everywhere in the universe, in seashells, galaxies, flowers, even within our DNA.

Speaker 230 Also, October 14th is celebrated as World Standards Day, the date that humanity chose to honor the global standardization of measurement and time.

Speaker 230 But what makes this day truly extraordinary is that the three great calendars, the Mayan long count, the Solkin, and the Gregorian calendar, all synchronize through this same harmonic code on this day.

Speaker 230 So on October 14th and 15th, artificial time finally aligns with natural time, and that creates a window of perfect harmony.

Speaker 230 So this will be a moment to remember that harmony is not an idea, it is a frequency. And on these days, that frequency will be playing out.

Speaker 230 So, we will be reminded of what it feels like to move with time and not against it. Because this isn't just about numbers or calendars, this is about resonance.

Speaker 230 So, if you want to dive deeper into this and prepare yourself for this energy on the 14th, feel free to join my live stream on Friday, where I will dive deeper with you into the golden intersections of timelines.

Speaker 230 To join, just read the caption below. Blessings, and thank you for tuning in.

Speaker 31 Oh, brother,

Speaker 76 We lost everybody now.

Speaker 74 That was the worst clip ever.

Speaker 17 It was a great clip.

Speaker 1 There you are again, condemning my great clips.

Speaker 1 Like our, like, who was it?

Speaker 33 There's your great.

Speaker 74 What was her name?

Speaker 61 Yeah, yeah, the one person.

Speaker 157 The one person.

Speaker 22 Well, I got another one.

Speaker 164 So there's two.

Speaker 11 But that was, this would have been great to play on October 13th or the 12th.

Speaker 1 No, we didn't have a show on October 13th.

Speaker 62 We had a show on the 12th.

Speaker 165 That would have been perfect.

Speaker 108 Was this a Dutch woman, by the way?

Speaker 71 She sounds a Dutch.

Speaker 1 She did sound funny. Yeah.

Speaker 128 It's funny.

Speaker 34 All right.

Speaker 50 Now we can thank our producers $50.

Speaker 1 Well, let's start with Anonymous. And Alpharetta, Georgia, came at $105.35.

Speaker 1 No need to mention me.

Speaker 7 He, she writes.

Speaker 1 Quinturox. Quinterox in Brandenton, Florida, $105.35.

Speaker 1 Here's a Benny.

Speaker 7 We love the Benny's.

Speaker 22 Benjamin.

Speaker 1 Oh, Benjamin. That's what that is.
Okay. Kevin McLaughlin in Concord, North Carolina.
He's the Archduke of Luna, lover of American melons and boobs, and wants to save them.

Speaker 17 Yes.

Speaker 1 8008, William McFarlane, Manassas, Virginia, 70 for his 70th birthday coming up.

Speaker 1 Rick Thomas, another fabulous Bitcoin donation of $69.

Speaker 1 And he's got a Plug the Veteran Bitcoin Veteran Summit in Nashville.

Speaker 1 Look it up. Stephen Schumach in Zenia, Ohio, 6480.
Christopher Dector, 5678.

Speaker 1 Unnamed Knight in Padova, Italy, Padua, I think is what we'd call it. Yes.
5555.

Speaker 1 James Edmondson in South Plainfield, New Jersey, 5510.

Speaker 1 Evgeny

Speaker 1 Damaskin in Boston, 55, and he's 55 today.

Speaker 1 Luke Munel, Luke Munel in Los Angeles, 5272, Viscount Sir Economic Hitman. There he is in Tombull, Texas, 550-01.
The rest of these are $50 donors. There's not a lot of them.

Speaker 1 Starting with Brandon Savoie in Port Orchard, Washington. Patricia Worthington in Miami Beach, Miami.

Speaker 65 Sorry.

Speaker 1 Dame Patricia, as it were. Diane Schwanabach in Johnsburg, Illinois.

Speaker 1 Kevin Dills in Huntersville, North Carolina, Easy Landscapes in North Stonington, Connecticut, Chris Lewinsky in Sherwood Park, Alberta, Canada, and last on the list, a very short list for the old day, not very good, but it has to do.

Speaker 1 Philip Ballou in Louisville, Kentucky. Thank these folks for show 1808.

Speaker 100 Yes, and thanks again to our executive and associate executive producers for bringing us the heat for episode 1808.

Speaker 87 And if you want to support the best podcasts in the universe, the only way to do that is to just send us some value.

Speaker 86 Whatever you get out of the show, send it right back to us, noagendadonations.com.

Speaker 86 It's a birthday and birthday

Speaker 86 on No Agenda.

Speaker 5 And here is our list, which is completely free of charge.

Speaker 175 For those of you asking about it, just let us know what birthday wishes you want to do. We're happy to put it on.

Speaker 44 Evgen, Evgenie, Damaskin, she turned 55 on the 12th.

Speaker 5 We just heard that. Dan, happy birthday to his oldest human resource, Beckett, turns 13 today.
Happy birthday, Beckett, Sir Bing of the BMWs and Bulldogs.

Speaker 5 Happy birthday to his son, Jack Tesla Roediger, turned 16 on the 16th. That's the day.
Alex wishes his smoking hot wife, Sarah, a very happy birthday today.

Speaker 5 And William McFarlane, turned 70 years old, we say happy birthday for everybody here at the best podcast in the universe.

Speaker 44 We've got two Secretary Generals coming in just under the wire, which is very good.

Speaker 9 Can I say something?

Speaker 112 Yes.

Speaker 1 That Secretary

Speaker 1 General's jingle is driving me nuts.

Speaker 8 Why?

Speaker 1 I hear it all day. It's just like a bug.
It's like one of those worms. What do you call it?

Speaker 3 Earworm.

Speaker 98 It's an earworm.

Speaker 27 So, do you want me to get it?

Speaker 1 Because for some reason, I just keep hearing this song when I go to bed. I'm hearing it all during the day.
I'll be glad when

Speaker 86 this is over.

Speaker 5 This promotion will end very soon.

Speaker 32 It is time to hail them.

Speaker 18 All hail to the Secretary's General,

Speaker 6 because they are the ones who need hailing.

Speaker 6 All hail to the Secretary of Stan Wolf on the No Agenda Show.

Speaker 5 And we say congratulations to the Secretary General Lubor Benda and Secretary General of the Carnivore Nation. Both of you should go to noagendarings.com.

Speaker 62 Let us know where to send these handsome certificates so everybody will know that you are a Secretary General of the No Agenda Show.

Speaker 62 On the No Agenda Show.

Speaker 45 And we have one knight who, as we know, donated to 22.22.

Speaker 50 So, bring out your 20 to your row of duck sword there if you don't mind.

Speaker 44 The one that you

Speaker 1 get it.

Speaker 10 There it is. Perfect.

Speaker 5 ron sherman step on up sir i know you didn't want anything special for the round table we do have special stuff for you because it's always special at the round table for the knowage and the knights and dames thanks i almost cut myself thanks to your support in the amount of one thousand dollars or more which you tallied up and gave us the accounting i am very proud to pronounce kb as sir fungus among us and for you we have hookers and blow red boys and chardonnay along with that we've got some uh harlis and Haldahl.

Speaker 5 We've got Redheads and Rise. We got Gates to the Sake, Buck and Vanilla, Bongheads and Bourbon, Sparkling Cider and Escorts, Ginger Ale and Gerbil, Spress Milk and Pablum.
And as always,

Speaker 73 as you're grazing around the roundtable, you've got your mutton and your meat.

Speaker 45 Go to noagenda rings.com.

Speaker 58 Everybody can check out those handsome knight and dame rings.

Speaker 115 They are signet rings, so it comes with a wax.

Speaker 65 You can use those to seal your important correspondence, a certificate of authenticity, and of course, let us know what your ring size is.

Speaker 139 And we look forward to hailing you as a knight of the No Agenda Roundtable.

Speaker 42 And now it's time for our meetups.

Speaker 18 No agenda.

Speaker 18 Meet up.

Speaker 18 All right, we had a lot of people at these meetups.

Speaker 30 Everybody has to get their little two cents in.

Speaker 44 So the first one is Dirty Jersey Whore, who organized the Johnson City meetup on the 10th of October, one day before the Fredericksburg meetup.

Speaker 141 And here's the report.

Speaker 228 Hey, this is Judy.

Speaker 6 I'm just out here looking for some big cans, coffee cans, that is, big ones.

Speaker 228 He's filling it for Daniel because he dropped the mic.

Speaker 63 Well, it was beeping, so I thought it was important.

Speaker 129 Mr.

Speaker 213 Brian with an eye in the morning.

Speaker 228 Hey, this is Daniel AKA, Dirty Jersey Whore. We're here at the Johnson City Night Before the Storm meetup.

Speaker 6 We're having a big time here in Johnson City, Texas.

Speaker 6 So I'm the new Secretary General of Converting Bactries Back to Farms.

Speaker 222 ITM, this is the second meetup and it's just as good as the first.

Speaker 228 Looking forward to seeing everybody tomorrow.

Speaker 5 Dane Tracy here in Jefferson City.

Speaker 231 Glad to be invited and having a great time and hope to come back soon.

Speaker 10 Sir Kay Break here hanging out here at Johnson City

Speaker 10 and it is the Pecan Street Brewing.

Speaker 227 This is Robbie and I had something witty to say but I forgot it.

Speaker 6 This is Patty in the morning.

Speaker 203 This is Melinda. I should not have had that second drink.

Speaker 28 Wow, very noisy there.

Speaker 54 And a lot of the same people, including our Secretary General of the Stop the Factories, go to the Form,

Speaker 193 the Farm.

Speaker 34 What's her name?

Speaker 45 Janice?

Speaker 20 Janice Giles, I think. Janet.
Janet Gilles.

Speaker 170 There you go. She also showed up in Fredericksburg.

Speaker 51 This was a very big meetup.

Speaker 196 Hey, it's Tina the Keeper in the morning.

Speaker 9 And it's the Pod Father, and this has been our best J Sixer Jenny outfit meetup yet.

Speaker 222 And thank you to Gail and Matt.

Speaker 6 This is Aaron

Speaker 129 from Abilene. In the morning.

Speaker 32 In the morning, this is Baron Saratonin coming all the way from Fort Woods.

Speaker 124 This is Brendan from Local 512 saying in the morning.

Speaker 28 Hi there, I am Caleb Funk.

Speaker 73 I'm here with my smoking hot wife, and we are overinformed and under-socialized.

Speaker 6 This is Chris. This is James.

Speaker 32 From Round Rock, in the morning.

Speaker 125 Hey, I'm Chris from Washington. This is great.
Got to meet a bunch of new people, and everybody was really friendly.

Speaker 231 Dame Tracy of the Roman Rite, and this is my first time at the big meetup. I got to meet Adam and the Keeper.

Speaker 150 Hi, this is Derry from Center Point, Texas. It was a great time.

Speaker 59 Hey, this is Dirty Dergey Horror.

Speaker 124 We miss you, Matt.

Speaker 129 In the morning.

Speaker 124 This is Baron Scott, soon-to-be Viscount Scott.

Speaker 192 And Keeper Christine.

Speaker 94 Getting ready to celebrate our 18th wedding anniversary the day after the show's anniversary.

Speaker 9 In the morning,

Speaker 126 this is Sir Brian with an eye from Cedar Park, and I just met some lovely Dutch people.

Speaker 32 Hi, we're Max and Emma, the Dutch people, in the Octens, in Oltens.

Speaker 32 Hi, this is Instant

Speaker 32 Sir Tim of the Domestead.

Speaker 203 Okay, this is Dame Mary of the Domestead.

Speaker 11 We're in Luke and Buck, Texas.

Speaker 63 This is Duke of the South, Patrick, Audi.

Speaker 168 Team of Region number four, checking in.

Speaker 121 Memphis up. Woo!

Speaker 53 In the morning, this is Gordon Myers from Dripping Springs, Texas.

Speaker 63 Hey, this is Riddie.

Speaker 203 My name's Holly. We just moved to Texas from Colorado, but I'm from Washington State.
In the morning. This is Alyssa.

Speaker 28 This is Jamie.

Speaker 202 We have our human resources here.

Speaker 32 And we're wondering where our friend Casey is.

Speaker 63 If you're listening, reach out.

Speaker 94 Hi, this is just Greg. In the morning.

Speaker 203 Hi, this is Karen Myers.

Speaker 231 Everybody have a good day. Hi, it's Con El Lingas from Austin, Texas.

Speaker 94 Hey, this is Marco from Central Oregon.

Speaker 125 Pleased to meet you. Hey, you guys, thanks for being there.

Speaker 9 In the morning, this is Nick from Austin.

Speaker 8 I'm Nikki from Adeline. Oh, hello, John.

Speaker 178 In the morning! Hey, this is Paul Bailey.

Speaker 167 Don't forget to get the Godcaster app.

Speaker 9 I'm Ralph from Durango, Colorado.

Speaker 125 Hey, this is Rob, your constitutional lawyer, bringing you speech that is free for the usual fee.

Speaker 21 Okay, it's Todd in the morning.

Speaker 172 Hey, this is Trinidad, having a blast at Fredericksburg Meetup.

Speaker 126 This is Gary McBride, the second worst bartender in the county here at 1776 Bar.

Speaker 232 And if you missed it, you missed it.

Speaker 233 Hi, my name is Leslie Stewart, and I am helping out at the Full Moon Inn as a bartender. And the No Agenda folks are amazing, amazing people, and it's been so fun to be here.

Speaker 234 In the morning, it's Gail standing in for Matt. We've had a great crowd.

Speaker 74 This is great.

Speaker 68 I can't wait to go to another one.

Speaker 41 In the morning!

Speaker 96 Woo! That was a big meetup.

Speaker 222 We've got a meetup taking place today, the North Idaho Sanity Brigade October meetup, 5 o'clock at Trails End Brewery and Brick Oven Pizza.

Speaker 157 That's in Curta Lane.

Speaker 25 Also today, Charlotte's Thursday, 3rd Thursday monthly meetup.

Speaker 59 That'll kick off at 7 tonight at Edge Tavern in Charlotte, North Carolina.

Speaker 52 On Saturday, there's a new location for the Dallas-Fort Worth Mid-Cities meetup.

Speaker 107 That's 11:30 in the morning at Cheff Point Cafe in Coleyville, Texas.

Speaker 45 Also, on Saturday, the 37th No Agenda meetup in Fort Wayne, Indiana, Halls Tavern, and Coventry. That's at noon.

Speaker 66 And also on Saturday, all aboard, number 68, Santa Fe Cafe, Fullerton, California.

Speaker 40 That's another flight of the No Agendas.

Speaker 56 I guess they're going to be looking at trains again.

Speaker 18 Tickets.

Speaker 45 And we have the No Agenda Ohio meetup at 5.30 at Dempsey's Tavern on Saturday in Columbus, Ohio.

Speaker 44 And finally, the Sunday show will be accompanied by a meetup DB's Pat Surprise birthday party.

Speaker 43 Michigan Local One holding that at 2 o'clock at Horrocks Farm Market Beer Garden in Lansing, Michigan.

Speaker 44 Just some of the smattering of No Agenda meetups that take place all around the globe.

Speaker 41 We have them literally all around the globe.

Speaker 44 Go to noagendametups.com to find out where they are.

Speaker 142 If you can't find one near you, just start one yourself.

Speaker 50 It's fun, easy, and always a party. Sometimes you wanna go hang out with all the nights and days.

Speaker 50 You wanna be where you won't be, triggered all hell lame.

Speaker 50 You wanna be where everybody feels the same.

Speaker 150 And we end this party as always with John's tip of the day coming up in just moments.

Speaker 45 And of course, we always want to find a fun ISO to end the show with.

Speaker 11 And

Speaker 174 I see you have, what do you have?

Speaker 83 You have two here.

Speaker 83 So one.

Speaker 92 Three. I'm sorry.
You have three.

Speaker 49 Don't get mad.

Speaker 49 Don't get mad.

Speaker 97 Get even. Don't get mad.

Speaker 4 Get even.

Speaker 92 Three meet three ISOs.

Speaker 92 Well, maybe I should start with mine then.

Speaker 4 Shall I start with mine?

Speaker 7 Yes,

Speaker 7 I believe so. Okay.

Speaker 9 10 out of 10.

Speaker 169 It's awesome.

Speaker 98 Knocks out of the park.

Speaker 9 That's not bad.

Speaker 111 Yeah.

Speaker 126 It's terminated.

Speaker 82 That's not bad. Yeah.

Speaker 43 And then, of course, I had...

Speaker 4 Where's my...

Speaker 111 Huh.

Speaker 4 I lost it.

Speaker 4 Where's the...

Speaker 4 Yeah, this one. I like this one.

Speaker 205 Shut up.

Speaker 9 I still like that one.

Speaker 64 I can't help myself.

Speaker 62 All right. What do you got?

Speaker 60 Well, first of all, we had a seance.

Speaker 42 A seance?

Speaker 1 Yeah, and

Speaker 1 I got a clip which I think finds some use someplace, but it's not going to be a good end-of-show mix thing. But this is, yeah, we conjured up Walter Cronkite.

Speaker 93 On the AI, yes, on 11 Live.

Speaker 1 No, it was a seance.

Speaker 9 Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 And we recorded it, and here it is.

Speaker 223 Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak provide an invaluable public service.

Speaker 223 They guide their listeners through the thick jungle of bullshit that the mainstream news media have planted using machetes of truth and logic.

Speaker 50 Wow, I like that one a lot.

Speaker 34 I don't mind using that one.

Speaker 50 That's cool.

Speaker 9 That's a good one.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 he made a point.

Speaker 22 Yes, he made a very good point, our old Walter Cronkite.

Speaker 51 It didn't sound like him at all, but I mean, you know, he's a ghost that came as a seance.

Speaker 24 Yeah,

Speaker 24 what are you going to do? What are your other things?

Speaker 1 It could have been the recording gear.

Speaker 65 Oh, yes, probably.

Speaker 23 They got rubble.

Speaker 69 Rubble.

Speaker 9 Okay.

Speaker 9 Yes.

Speaker 1 And then we have another dude who came into the seance as Kennedy, John Kennedy the senator.

Speaker 235 Well, hot damn. That was a real humdinger.

Speaker 51 That's actually better than Cronkite.

Speaker 235 Well, hot damn. That was a real humdinger.

Speaker 112 Oh,

Speaker 44 you know, why don't I use this at the end when the mic drop comes, and then I'll play Cronkite as an extra bonus end of show.

Speaker 1 Perfect. Okay.

Speaker 120 And before all that though, we get another John's tip of the day.

Speaker 6 Green fast for you and me.

Speaker 18 Just a tip with JCD

Speaker 18 and sometimes Adam.

Speaker 1 So I'm not going to do this too often, but I'm going to do it this time.

Speaker 156 Okay.

Speaker 1 Which is I'm going to recommend a movie.

Speaker 106 Wow.

Speaker 1 As a tip of the day. But it's not a movie you can just go see and it's not out.

Speaker 1 It's a movie you're going to have to track down or you're going to have to get on Turner Classic Movies. They just played it recently and I saw it again for about the fifth time.

Speaker 1 And I have to say, this movie is important to listeners of this particular story.

Speaker 31 Let me guess.

Speaker 123 Let me guess.

Speaker 45 The Internationalist.

Speaker 1 No, that's a good movie.

Speaker 24 I like that movie. Okay.

Speaker 1 No, no, no. No, that wasn't that.
The Manchurian candidate.

Speaker 21 Ooh, and that's from the 50s, 60s?

Speaker 1 50s or 60s. Yeah.
But it's like, it is such an outstanding movie with

Speaker 1 Angela Lansbury playing the heavy. She plays a character who's basically Hillary Clinton.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 she's such a good actress. You know, you think of her as some sort of a goofball actress doing murder she wrote or whatever.
No, no. She was a solid.

Speaker 1 actress and she plays a very nasty character in this movie but it's a it's starring uh um Frank Sinatra.

Speaker 103 Yes.

Speaker 1 But this movie, and I've seen it and seen it and seen it. And every time I watch it, it's like,

Speaker 1 it's a fabulous film, and people should find a way to watch it or find a way to track a copy down. You have to download it.
Just get a copy of this movie.

Speaker 61 This film, I tell you, everybody.

Speaker 142 It's not a film, John.

Speaker 45 It is cinema.

Speaker 17 Yeah, it is cinema.

Speaker 31 It is cinema.

Speaker 43 It is.

Speaker 1 Those days are over.

Speaker 60 I mean, the troll room was guessing Debbie does Dallas and all kinds of other films.

Speaker 143 But no, no one expected to hear the Manchurian candidate.

Speaker 5 Another fantastic tip of the day. Find them all at tipoftheday.net.

Speaker 6 Great advice for you and me. Just a tip with JCD.

Speaker 6 And sometimes Adam.

Speaker 6 Created by Dana Bernetti.

Speaker 5 And that does it, everybody.

Speaker 44 But that doesn't mean that your fun is done. No, no.

Speaker 22 Because, oh goodness, we have Congressional Dish running on the stream.

Speaker 131 Interesting. Oh, well, that's interesting.

Speaker 46 Haven't heard Jen Briony in a while.

Speaker 21 Quark.

Speaker 21 There's her golf club swing again. Quark.

Speaker 22 That's coming up next on NoAgendastream.com.

Speaker 76 Of course, you can always tune into Noagendastream.com 24 hours a day.

Speaker 44 There's always something interesting. Many of them are live.

Speaker 11 Get your modern podcast app to be alerted when they go live.

Speaker 15 Particularly

Speaker 43 those guys from Planet Rage.

Speaker 75 I like that show.

Speaker 122 End of show mixes.

Speaker 9 We have,

Speaker 33 let's see, we've got Agent Looper and we have,

Speaker 90 it's been two weeks in a row, we have another one from the clip custodian himself, Neil Jones.

Speaker 63 So stay tuned for that.

Speaker 49 And as always,

Speaker 44 I am coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country, home of the J Sixer Jenny meetups, Fredericksburg, Texas.

Speaker 5 In the morning, everybody.

Speaker 42 I'm Adam Curry.

Speaker 1 And from Northern Silicon Valley, where it's actually nice out today. I'm John Cedovorak.

Speaker 44 We'll be back on Sunday.

Speaker 88 Please join us for more media deconstruction and whatever happened to John Bolton.

Speaker 222 Remember us at noagendadonations.com.

Speaker 129 Until then, adios low-fos! Hoo-e-hooe!

Speaker 234 And such.

Speaker 2 Because all countries need allies.

Speaker 17 Here is a group of people who we can use as the theoreticians and the executors of the U.S.

Speaker 129 policy that we want.

Speaker 2 And Israel is an ally.

Speaker 127 It's a fighting ally that pulls its weight.

Speaker 185 America's landed aircraft carrier.

Speaker 156 We're the junior partner.

Speaker 9 We have fought now a seven front war. We have an eighth front.

Speaker 156 The infosphere is the eighth front, and seizing the high ground in the fight for global public opinion is a battle.

Speaker 219 He told these people, I think they're going to kill me.

Speaker 218 Who is they?

Speaker 219 Tar Lee writes in this group chat, just lost another huge Jewish donor. Jewish donors play into all of the stereotypes.
I cannot and will not be bullied like this.

Speaker 154 Reporters in Gaza are Palestinians, and those people fall into three categories.

Speaker 154 Some of them identify with Hamas, some of them are intimidated, and the third category is people who actually belong to Hamas.

Speaker 236 The AP, like all of its sister organizations, collaborates with Hamas censorship in Gaza. What does that mean?

Speaker 154 The center of the coverage will be a number, a casualty number, that is provided to the press by something called the Gaza Health Ministry, which is Hamas.

Speaker 154 And it's a way of basically settling the story before you get into any other information.

Speaker 129 You have meddled with the primal forces of nature, nature, Mr.

Speaker 121 Beale, and I won't have it.

Speaker 18 Is that clear?

Speaker 228 You think you've merely stopped a business deal?

Speaker 129 That is not the case.

Speaker 32 The Arabs have taken billions of dollars out of this country, and now they must put it back.

Speaker 6 It is ebb and flow. It is ebb and flow.
It is ebb and flow.

Speaker 6 Tidal gravitates.

Speaker 6 It is ecological balance.

Speaker 111 You are an old man who thinks in terms of nations and peoples.

Speaker 111 There are no nations. There are no peoples.
There are no Russians. There are no Arabs.

Speaker 6 There are no third worlds. There is no West.

Speaker 6 There is no West.

Speaker 6 There is no West.

Speaker 183 There is only one holistic system of systems.

Speaker 183 There is no West. There is no West.

Speaker 111 One vast and humane, interwoven, interacting, multivariate, multinational dominion of dollars.

Speaker 111 Petro dollars, electro dollars, multi-dollars, rank marks, rims, rubles, pounds, and shecks.

Speaker 111 It is the international system of currencies which determines the totality of life on this planet.

Speaker 111 The best podcast in the universe.

Speaker 146 Adios, Mofo.

Speaker 9 Dvorak.org slash na.

Speaker 106 Oh, hot damn. That was a real humdinger.

Speaker 223 Adam Curry and John C. Dvorak provide an invaluable public service.

Speaker 223 They guide their listeners through the thick jungle of bullshit that the mainstream news media have planted using machetes of truth and logic.