1766 - "Cinematic Ambush"

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"Cinematic Ambush"


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Come on, kids, let's do a show.

Adam Curry, John C.

Dvorak.

It's Thursday, May 22nd, 2025.

This is your award-winning Give On Nation Media Assassination Episode 1766.

This is no agenda.

Making African news great again and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA region number six.

In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.

And from Northern Silicon Valley, where we're waiting for an ambush.

I'm John C.

Dvorak.

It's Crackbot and Buzzkill in the morning.

It's always so disappointing when

a producer sends us the same clip and then I'm like, oh, John didn't reply to it.

Maybe he didn't see it.

I got it.

I got it.

I got it.

It's my clip.

I got it.

And then you send bonus clips.

You're talking about the ambush.

Of course, I'm talking about the ambush.

It's beautiful.

Whoever made that clip.

We're going to talk about this.

What we're going to talk about is the meeting between Trump and the Prime Minister of South Africa.

And the media is jumping all over Trump.

I have the CBS clips, I think, are worse.

It's as if there is...

Whatever the president, our president of our United States does is no good.

Nope.

And everybody else is better.

Well, first of all.

So I don't know what the media wonders why it keeps losing credibility.

It doesn't even support its own

the country

that it's in.

It hates America.

I just love

that we have actual African news that people are interested in.

We've been pushing for this for years.

We have.

Okay, it's South Africa.

All right.

Who cares?

It's not the jungle.

We've been talking about this

white, you know, whether it's a genocide or not, but the white, the movement against the white farmers.

And I have clips here that are six years old.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

The report done by TRT, the Turkish service.

This is not new.

Let me kick this off with a BBC report, and then you can take it from there.

Why has this issue of alleged violence against the Afrikaner community in South Africa become such a central theme for President Trump?

He was talking about this in his first term and looking looking at the possibility of giving refugee status to Afrikaners.

But it's only now that we're seeing that he's really going for it.

And I don't think it's a coincidence that his close friend and close ally, Elon Musk, was in the Oval Office.

Elon Musk is born in South Africa.

He has pushed these unsubstantiated claims of a white genocide.

And Donald Trump, I think, will have been massively influenced by him.

It's all because of Elon.

That's why Trump is dumb.

He doesn't

look at anything in the world.

This is a self-contradictory report, which is something you can expect.

She says he tried to do this in the first term.

Elon wasn't around.

No.

It's great.

So if Elon wasn't around during the first term, what makes it any different?

Nothing.

Nothing.

They're beside themselves.

I'll do one more.

This is a CNN.

No, do as many as you want.

There's a lot of good material here that people need to hear.

Well, this kind of kicks off the super cut.

This is Anderson's Anderson Cooper, the Pooper 360 with Cornell Brooks.

Professor Brooks, I mean, what message?

I'm sorry.

Professor Brooks.

Professor Brooks, I mean, what message do you think it sends to America and the world when the white U.S.

president lectures a black South African president?

White, white, black, black, white, white.

And on television about a genocide of which is not happening.

It's not happening.

Not happening.

Not happening.

I said so.

It sends a message that the president is continuing to rewrite history and in so doing also dramatically and disastrously impact the president.

So, in other words, what we had in the White House today was a cinematic ambush, if you will.

Did he say cinematic ambush?

That's a show title.

What we had in the White House today was a cinematic ambush, if you will,

and an anything but diplomatic attack.

And this is reminiscent, if you will, of 110 years ago when the President Woodrow Wilson showed a film called The Birth of a Nation, which was a film that glorified the Klan.

Oh, yeah.

The birth of the nation about Africa?

No, this is, it's synonymous, you see, because President Trump is racist.

President Woodrow Wilson showed a film called The Birth of a Nation, which was a film that glorified the Klan.

So here we have this film today,

which is an attempt to rewrite history and adversely impact the present.

And so the country should be horrified because President Trump is literally using both racism, anti-black racism, and xenophobia, anti-immigrant, anti-refugee hate to not only divide the country, but divide the globe.

And what has been made

bad

and terrible in this country, he's globalizing and exporting in ways that are detrimental to the interests of the United States.

Wow, that's a professor right there.

And he introduced the term.

It was

my first taste of the ambush.

Shall we play the supercut?

Yeah, there's a super cut floating around of all these different, mostly on CNN and MSNBC, of course.

But

the other networks too, including ABC.

BBC as well.

I didn't clip it, but I saw BBC do it.

Yep.

It's worldwide,

The tense confrontation.

President Trump ambushing the president of South Africa.

Next, another Oval Office meltdown.

President Trump ambushing the President of South Africa.

President Trump is being accused of conducting something of a diplomatic ambush of South Africa's president in the Oval Office.

To be with you, I'm Katie Tur.

President Trump orchestrated another Oval Office ambush today.

Today, Donald Trump meeting with the President of South Africa and attempting to ambush and humiliate

zelensky territory where essentially he was uh a bit ambushed inside the oval office felt like an ambush in there kind of like uh the president zelensky meeting in the oval office this was an ambush it was orchestrated

brought his best diplomatic self to this meeting but nothing could have prepared him for this multimedia ambush what started as to some degree an ambush well katie i mean it was an ambush ambush it was ambushed ambushed ambush ambush ambush Ambushed inside the Oval Office.

It was an ambush, I tell you.

An ambush.

My goodness.

I wish I had this one when I was talking to the kids about propaganda.

This would have been a good one.

A good one.

Ambush.

Why don't you roll out your CBS clips that you got?

I got a couple of CBS clips here.

This is the...

They did a whole first of the show.

Well, of course.

But I just only have three short clips from the beginning just to emphasize some of the use of loaded terms, very unjournalistic, professionally, I think, very

loaded wordage

put out in such a way that is slanted, anti-Trump, which

seems to me to be

a very

sketchy thing to do right now since CBS is still under duress over the lawsuit, over 60-minute lawsuit, which is hurting their

getting bought out.

But they don't care.

Let's hear what we got to say here.

For more than a century, the Oval Office has been the scene of dignified diplomatic exchanges.

What point did you not know President Trump was in the Oval Office and things have changed?

Between the President of the United States and other world leaders.

But President Trump has turned the Oval into a ring for sparring with them, including the President of Ukraine, the Prime Minister of Canada, and now the President of South Africa.

Mr.

Trump sprung a video on an unsuspecting Cyril Mamaposa designed to back Mr.

Trump's unsubstantiated, unsubstantiated, unsubstantiated claims that there's a genocide underway in South Africa targeting white farmers.

In recent days, the president has welcomed white refugees from South Africa to the United States, just weeks after signing an executive order suspending America's refugee admission program.

Deborah Pata is in South Africa and is South African.

We will hear from her in a moment.

But we begin with Weija Zhang at the White House.

We

Trump has accused South Africa of condoning genocide, even cutting off all U.S.

assistance to the country back in March.

Today, the South African president was hoping to reset the relationship, but Trump had a different plan.

Yeah, he was ready for an ambush.

He was hiding out, ready to go, ready to do it.

Ready, ready, ready, ready, Teddy.

He's ready.

He don't care because he's making a mockery of, he's turning the oval into a ring.

Yes.

Nobody,

these networks do not see any humor in any of this, of course.

I love the whole turn the lights down.

Yeah.

I'm going to play you a video.

How old is that video, actually?

Well, the one he showed a bunch of videos, and they don't really discuss the videos.

They just kind of say they were bull crap.

Oh, yeah, sure.

But

they don't.

Play any of the

Malima, which is the main guy we're talking about.

ANC guy, yeah.

No, No, he's an EFF guy.

Oh, okay.

He's the economic freedom of fighters.

He is the third most popular or fourth, depending on what numbers you look at, most popular party in the country.

Julius, Julius, I think it's

not to be confused with Electronic Frontier Foundation.

But it could easily be.

Easily.

But they.

This guy is a

genocidal maniac, and I have clips from him from various years.

And he was singing this kill the boar, kill the farmer, kill the boar, kill the farmer, which is one of the videos they showed.

And

CBS didn't even mention or play any of that, of course, because it would take away from the slant that they have.

And we'll have some more evidence of that in the next clip.

Rama Fosa acknowledged a law that allows his government to expropriate land for public use with compensation.

But he insisted white farmers are not being targeted.

They do allow them to take land.

Nobody can tell you what they are.

When they take the land, they kill the white farmer.

And when they kill the white farmer, nothing happens to them.

No.

Nothing happens.

There is criminality in our country.

So he says, this guy, the prime minister, says, there's a lot of criminality, but it's not like directed necessarily just at whites.

There was something that she said.

tried to make some comment on this way.

I cut it.

Play the next clip.

The meeting started with a friendly jab from President Trump.

He is a man who is certainly in some circles really respected, other circles a little bit less respected, like all.

But when South African President Syro Rama Fosa denied Trump's accusations, his administration is allowing genocide.

Trump was prepared to push back.

Turn the lights down and just put this on.

It's right behind you.

On a television brought into the Oval Office for this very moment, the president showed videos peddling, pedaling, peddling unsubstantiated, unsubstantiated, unsubstantiated claims of genocide against white South African farmers.

Those people, in many cases, are being executed.

They're being executed.

Yeah.

I have a boots on the ground.

I don't know if you want it yet or if you want to play some of your other clips first.

Well, we can go with boots.

I have a boots on the ground too.

Which one's yours?

From JB?

Mine's from MD.

You play, Read yours.

Just let me remind everybody,

unlike

other podcasts where it's just a bunch of dudes sitting around with the headphones on, shooting this shit.

Shooting the breeze.

Hands on their heads.

Hands on their heads.

Unlike the mainstream media who just have a mission and a narrative, we have producers who are all around the world, which we affectionately call Gitmo Nation.

And I did a call out and I said, Var Sama South Afrikaners.

And we both independently, independently, apparently, got Boots on the Ground report.

John C.

DeBorak, your report, go.

It is from Matthew.

About eight years ago, I did accounting for a publicly traded company growing tea in South Africa.

I learned from their CEO that if a black person goes into a white person's home and stays there for a day or two, the white owner, while the white owner is away, the house belongs to the black person.

Yay.

If it then takes, that takes thousands and thousands of dollars of legal expenses to remove them, South Africa is way ahead of California in squatting laws.

They told me a story of a huge black woman who moved into a guest house on the tea farm and

would not leave.

Her only English phrase was, dis my house.

At the time, I thought this was hilarious.

The company had to leave South Africa because they had to hire a quota of black workers,

and the laws kept getting worse for the white

Also, I recall the ownership of the business had to be partially owned by a black person.

It's kind of like China, actually.

Yeah, very much like China.

There's a black South African group that got ownership rights and was paid to do nothing.

It's always about the money in the end.

The South African story has legs.

Ah, okay.

So I have a little more expanded story, but along the similar lines.

This is from JB, who says, and you'll recall the clip when his opening starts with, being a white neo-Nazi adjacent South African.

Of course, we had the clip of that

professor.

Cute.

Yeah.

I thought it might be best place to provide a boots on the ground of the current situation in South Africa.

The famous saying goes, the problem with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.

This very much applies.

The ANC government is no longer the Soviet-trained freedom fighters the world remembers them as.

There's absolutely nothing they have not stolen or broken in their 30 years in power.

They have now finally run out of other people's money and are now selling themselves and the country to the highest bidder.

The consensus, while not proven, is that in order to stay solvent, they are accepting large sums of money from Iran in return for nuclear technology and political favors, such as taking Israel to the International Court of Justice.

This, of course, makes them a direct enemy of the United States.

It is my opinion that the refugee status offered to Afrikaners is actually a political message to the A to let the ANC government know the U.S.

are not effing around.

Should the Afrikaners all leave, the economy will be completely destroyed, not because they own all the land, which is complete disinformation,

but rather because 30 years of terrible state education has left a large majority of the black population unemployable and completely unequipped to build an economy.

You'll remember the Afrikaners left Europe

a long long time ago because they are incredibly self-sufficient people who will not be walked over.

It is also largely consensus in the country there is no white genocide happening.

We have one of the highest murder rates as well as one of the highest unemployment rates in the world.

This has caused a massive violent crime problem fueled by the resentment of massive inequality.

Sound familiar?

The police force is completely unable to stop any crime due to large-scale state corruption.

As an example, our Air Force has only three working planes.

Due to the complete failures of the state, civil organizations like Afri Forum have had to step in and fill the gaps where the state cannot provide.

To round this off, racism is always the go-to for both MSNBC and the ANC.

It allows them to paint Afri Forum as the enemy and to justify absolutely insane laws which make it borderline illegal for me to have a job under the banner of transformation and equality.

What we are watching is the end of an incredibly racist, corrupt, useless, and now bankrupt regime.

Our president even hides his U.S.

dollars in his couch.

I feel very important to add one additional note after our very own Zelensky moment in the White House.

Yes, our government is exactly that stupid.

They honestly thought they were going to talk about trade and had no idea they were walking into such a lovely humiliation.

The rest of us back home expected exactly this and are very chuffed.

We already owe owe a debt of gratitude to this administration.

JB,

white neo-Nazi adjacent South Afrikaner.

That sounds true to me.

Remember how weird that was that they took Israel to the ICC?

Yes.

And in fact, I don't have a clip of this.

I've got enough clips.

I don't need this one.

Of McGregor, the guy, Douglas McGregor, the

colonel or whatever.

Yeah.

That guy.

Who's all over the place?

Kind of the Scott Ritter type of guy.

He says that the only reason that Trump did all this is because South Africa went after Israel

in the criminal court, and he's doing it to punish them.

Well, it's definitely part of it.

Well, there's an element.

An element.

But the Iran thing is interesting, is that if they're taking money from Iran, then, yeah, they are a huge problem.

And that sounds completely believable.

Yeah, it does.

It does.

So thank you, Gitmo Nation producers.

All right, what else you got here?

So we have a bunch of clips.

I have a series of South African clips.

There's the Trump versus South Africa, the NPR kind of an overview.

We can play that.

President Trump's face-to-face with his guest today, South African President Cyril Ramaposa, took a widely unexpected turn today in the Oval Office.

And Pierre's Danielle Kurtz Laban explains.

While the Oval Office meeting began cordially, it grew hostile when Trump repeated

false claims of white genocide.

At one point, Trump paused the meeting to show the room a four and a half minute video promoting the idea that white South African farmers are being targeted.

I must tell you, Mr.

President, we have had a tremendous number of people, especially since they've seen this.

Generally, they're white farmers and they're fleeing South Africa.

And

it's a very sad thing to see.

South African President Ramaposa pushed back against Trump's claims, also stressing that he wanted to, quote, reset the relationship between the United States and South Africa.

It wasn't the only topic that angered the president.

Trump also repeatedly insulted a reporter from NBC when he asked the president about his administration's accepting a luxury airplane as a gift from Cotter.

Danielle Kurt Slavan, NPR News.

I have that clip.

Can I play the clip?

Yeah, the guy,

what's his name?

Peter Alexander.

Who's no slouch of a personality?

He's been around forever.

I know a clip you're going to play, but I don't know if you have the follow-up clip where

later

he says, out of the blue, Trump says, yeah, unlike this idiot over here from NBC.

I don't have that one.

Here's it.

That was the funnier one.

Here we go.

Yes.

Mr.

President of the Pentagon announced they would be accepting a Qatari jet to be used as aerosport.

What are you talking about?

What are you talking about,

You know,

for you to get out of here, what does this have to do with the Qatar jet?

They're giving the United States Air Force a jet, okay?

And it's a great thing.

We're talking about a lot of other things.

This NBC trying to get off the subject of what you just saw.

You are a real, you know, you're a terrible reporter.

Number one, you don't have what it takes to be a reporter.

You're not smart enough.

But for you to go on to a subject about a jet that was given to the United States Air Force, which is a very nice thing, they also gave $5.1 trillion worth of investment in addition to the jet.

Go back, you ought to go back to your studio at NBC because Brian Roberts and the people that run that place

ought to be investigated.

They are so terrible the way you run that network.

And you're a disgrace.

No more questions from you.

Go ahead.

Go ahead, talk about that.

His name is Peter Sufflick.

He's a terrible

Let's go.

Yeah, something.

So,

I don't have the clip, but at one point,

President Trump said to the South African president,

it would be nice to get a jet from you.

And the guy goes, I don't have a jet to give.

I'm sorry.

It would have been nice, but I have a jet.

This is an awesome show.

So he calls out Brian Roberts, the CEO of Tom Cameron.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

That had to send a

shock

down his spine.

Well, if you take into account,

where is it here?

That this just happened.

Tonight, CBS is waiving SOS as President Trump takes on the news operation.

Its CEO, Wendy McMahon, says that she is stepping down as the network's parent company, Paramount, considers settling a lawsuit with Trump over what he claims is a deceptively edited 60-minutes interview with Kamala Harris.

McMahon's exit is fueling fear and speculation that a settlement is imminent.

Something that senators are now warning amounts to bribery.

They say, in part, if Paramount officials make these concessions in a quid pro quo arrangement to influence President Trump or other administration officials, they may be breaking the law.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Okay.

All right.

There you go.

Lee.

Yeah.

This is good.

Wow.

I knew it's good.

It's good.

It's good.

It's good.

So there's an old the TRT, the Turkish operation, did a

2019

report on the farmers getting killed.

And I want to play a clip of this.

This clip is the S.O.

African woman farmer.

Got it.

I can still,

at times, hear their voices.

I can see them.

I can see David.

They separated us and they fought with David until he had nothing left in him.

He couldn't fight anymore.

And then he just shot him.

Was David killed because he was white?

The things that they said when I was with him,

you being the word white being thrown around quite a bit, the word black being thrown around a bit.

Yes, I think it was more because he was white.

Yeah.

So this is not a new thing.

No, it's not even close to being new.

So here is

this guy, Malima,

is the real troublemaker down there.

And

he was in parliament for a while, and he runs the EFF,

which is,

and people should look him up, Julius Molina.

On Wikipedia, his story is unbelievable.

Ex-ANC guy, African National Congress.

He looks like a guardian angel.

He's always wearing a red hat, and this whole group's always dressed in red they're communists and they and they're avowed marxists yes and they're partly part of this uh the system that's down there that they've established and uh

i've got a few clips from him i've got him from 2022 on the radio i got him recent clip this is short kind of short clip it's hard to understand him on this one but he's talking about the farmers moving to the the ones that have the Africanos that have come to the USA.

This is Malima on the farmers coming to the USA.

If he wants them to start treating him differently and he's going to beg them to attend the G20, he's going to have to compromise some of the fundamental policies.

Okay, stop clapping.

I got to set it up better.

This is a, he is commenting on the

president of South Africa being in the White House now and going there to do the deals.

And he's condemning him for doing it because you shouldn't leave the country at all and blah, blah, blah.

And then he brings out this part some part of some discussion of the farmers i'll start it over if he wants them to start treating him differently and he's going to beg them to attend the g20 he's going to have to compromise some of the fundamental policies of this country which we're not prepared if he does that he must not come back he must stay there with those 49 afrikaners already he must also stay there because he can't compromise our sovereignty for political expediency We've got positions

on Palestine.

We've got positions on the embassy of Israel.

We have a resolution of parliament that said that embassy must leave South Africa.

Its majority in parliament took that decision.

So you cannot go alone as an executive overrule the position of parliament.

If he does that, it will be illegal and we're going to fight it.

There are no Afrikaners who have been killed here in South Africa.

It's not true.

And there are no 49 Africaners who left South Africa.

You all know that.

It's a fiction.

It's drama.

You know, America with drama is number one.

That thing is movango.

I don't know what is movango in Africa.

It's just a drama.

I believe they landed and then they waited for cameras, took them pictures, the next flight back to South Africa.

If those people are farmers, it means there are 49 farms available.

Why are we not expropriating them because they've abandoned them?

That's great.

Hey, if they left, how come we haven't grabbed their stuff yet?

It kind of says it all, doesn't it?

It kind of says it all.

Yeah.

Well, here he is on the radio being called out because of his racism.

This is Malima 2022 on the radio.

Now, the way a sentence is structured, you say, we are not calling for the slaughter of white people, at least for now.

That means at some future date we may

call for the slaughter of white people.

Is that correct?

Let's deal with that at that future date.

I don't know what's going to happen.

So you're saying you are not ruling out that in the future you may very well call for the slaughter of white people.

It may not be me.

Could it be you?

It could be me, yes, but it may not be me.

Yeah, so it could be you.

You could...

At some future date, call for the slaughter of white people.

What will necessitate that?

You tell me.

I don't know.

Why would I do that?

You've said you could do it in the future.

Is that correct?

I can't guarantee that I can do it or I won't do it.

So, right now, I'm not ruling out that possibility.

If I asked you to pledge to say, I will never call for the slaughter of white people, would you make that pledge?

I will do it with ease.

Make that pledge.

Why would I do that?

I'm asking you to make that pledge.

I won't do it.

Make the pledge.

I won't do it.

You won't do it.

Yes.

I understand.

Yeah, that's a bad look.

Wow.

Wow.

Well,

here he is.

It goes back to 2019.

And here is Malima

making some other comments that are worth noting.

And it sounds like, oh, well,

that's what's going on.

And considering he's a Marxist

and the other clips that we played earlier indicate that the South Africans are just...

you know, selling what they can, you know, taking what they can.

It's like the socialist thing where you just keep, you break everybody.

Just okay, we're out of money now.

Listen to this.

I've never called for their slaughter.

I've never called for their killing,

at least for now.

I can't guarantee the future.

David, I mean, you'd understand somebody watching that.

They freak out.

It sounds like a genocidal thing.

Cry babies.

Cry babies.

I'm not calling for the slaughter of white people, at least for now.

I'm saying to you,

not under my leadership, will we call for the slaughter of white people?

I don't know who's coming after me.

I will not speak.

They are alamist.

They are cry babies.

They are attention seekers.

No one is going to slaughter them.

The farm attacks is just an act of crime.

It's not

a genocide on white people.

We are concerned.

Even in the farms, there

were black workers are killed.

Should we now be alarmist and say there's genocide of black farm workers?

No, it's a a crime.

Expropriation of land without compensation.

Tell me what it means to you, because it means lots of things to lots of people.

No, no, it means, it's very simple.

The state owns the land and then it gives it to you on a long lease.

In that way, everyone else will have access to the land.

Wow.

Well, there's your Marxism, socialism, communism right there.

Now, all of a sudden, when did that happen?

The state owns the land, which is a very communist thing.

I remember when I went to the Soviet Union around the time you did, I think, and I had warmed up to one of the principles of the government.

And he made the point, and I think this is still in play in China, which is why they have so much trouble with intellectual property.

He says, he told me, he says, well, the way we see it, intellectual property belongs to the people.

Yeah.

And so, yeah, okay, so we copied something, but it's because it's for the good of the people, and that's the way they see it.

And that would mean the same thing with land ownership.

So all of a sudden, South Africa has become, you don't, there's no property rights.

You only get to borrow it.

Now, that's kind of the case in Hawaii to a large extent, too, for some reason.

So

this is the United States Democrat Party's dream.

Yeah.

No wonder the news media is saying,

it's eminent domain.

We've got eminent domain.

Yeah, but that you're supposed to get a

deal.

Yeah, you're supposed to get money.

They get money for it.

Yeah,

it's also eminent domain is different.

Yes.

There's compensation for eminent domain in South Africa, too.

They make that point.

Oh, yeah, no, they get money for this and that.

They don't get money for the confiscated farms.

That's different than eminent domain.

This is just the government owns everything.

The government owns all the property.

Well, I thought that was kind of interesting, but that could be just this EFF guy, this economic freedom fighter, Malema.

But no,

in the documentary that the Turks did, I have one last clip.

And this is a clip from a guy from the ANC, the ruling party,

being confronted by the journalist from Turkey in his house

discussing the same thing.

And he puts it in a different way, but it's pretty much the same deal.

This is the South Africa ANC leader on property rights.

The minority is now in position of the majority of the land, almost 85%.

It's a disruptor threat to the social stability and the economic stability of the country, but the population in urban cities, which needs a settlement.

To some people, expropriation without compensation means stealing without giving you anything for stealing your stuff.

So tell me why I'm wrong.

No, you are wrong because I mean

it is not stealing when it is done orderly, it is done by the constitution, it is done properly, and you are given reasons why the government must take the property.

Throughout the world, government use expropriation powers for various purposes.

For example, to build roads, to build health facilities.

There is an expropriation clause in the constitution of any country.

Any country?

No.

Well, according to him,

but the basis for everything going on is largely confiscation.

They've decided that

you don't own the property that you have title to.

You will own nothing and you will be happy.

Yes, it's exactly the same.

It's exactly what it is.

Well, this is a good model to look towards and say, no, we probably don't want that.

It's probably not a good idea.

Exactly.

We don't want that.

Don't want that.

Don't want that.

All right.

Well, we'll keep our eye on it.

Thank you very much, President Trump, for making African News great again.

We're very pleased with that.

We have to talk about Biden, this book.

Of course, the news broke during the last show.

But something else happened, which

I know you have clips on, so I'm not sure exactly what's in there, but I'll just play the 27 seconds of the announcement by Scott Adams.

Some of you have already guessed, so this won't surprise you at all.

But I have the same cancer that Joe Biden has.

So I also have prostate cancer that has also spread to my bones.

But I've had it longer than he's had it.

Well, longer than he's admitted having it.

So my life expectancy is maybe this summer.

I'd expect to be checking out from this domain sometime this summer.

Okay, so

first of all, I'm like, wow, that's very shocking and that's very sad.

I have to be honest to you,

John.

My second thought was, is this another one of his hypno tricks that he's trying to prove a point?

I hate that I thought that, but I immediately thought he's, why now?

Why is he saying this?

What is the point?

He always does strange things with announcements and then says, oh, I got y'all to think this or I got y'all to think that.

Did you have that thought at all or is that just me?

No, because I didn't hear a sped up clip like that you just played.

No, that's I've been listening to him live and he sounds like he's on his deathbed, to be honest about it.

I don't think that was sped up.

I'm telling you, it's not that it's not.

Okay, well, I didn't speed it up anyway.

But he is,

and

I'm in contact with him, and he is,

no, there's no way.

I never thought that either.

I thought that he might be

kind of he he kind of hints something.

The what clips I have aren't about him, this is announcements about some hints he makes which which I thought were the most interesting thing because I suspect

now Scott Scott you know had a back and forth with a lot of different people about the vax he was a bit pro-vaxxer big time yeah

and he kind of done is in some what denial about it but I know exactly when it happened when he when his when he realized that he had made a mistake no no I did I don't know if he ever realized he fully made a mistake but but I remember when he switched, when his brain was pushed in the direction of

allowing himself to unlock a word, not be to naively take the vaccine because you think because the government recommended it.

It predates the vaccine by a lot.

It's from the early days of the COVID.

I

would watch his show, and

I always thought it was very odd that he came to a screwball conclusion.

He liked to use a whiteboard.

And on the whiteboard, he put about the origins

of the virus.

This is right at the beginning.

And he says that here's the possibilities.

He says that he talks about the wet market bullcrap.

He says, there's a wet market in

wet market there in Wuhan, where it came from.

And then there's a, there's a, and people are discussing the Wuhan virology lab lab that works and researches coronaviruses.

And he puts them both up on the board and he says, you have to go with the simple answer.

It's obviously the wet market.

Wow.

And when he did that,

that put his brain into a track.

That led to getting vaxxed

because that was illogical.

In fact, Jon Stewart went on the Colbert show at least twice.

I remember it.

I think we probably have that clip, actually.

Yeah, and he made just a big fuss about this, saying, What are you guys thinking?

There's a place that researches is a lot, a lab that's known for its lousy security.

It's right there.

Why aren't you calling this out?

Stewart was beside himself about why people aren't noticing the obvious, which continued till like a couple of years.

And it's only recently that that he finally said, okay, okay, okay, it was the lab.

I have a 40-second, 42-second clip.

What do you mean by that?

Do you mean like perhaps

there's a chance that this was created in a lab?

There's an investigation.

A chance?

Well,

my God.

There's evidence I'd love to hear.

There's a novel respiratory coronavirus overtaking Wuhan, China.

What do we do?

Oh, you know who we could ask?

The Wuhan novel respiratory coronavirus lab.

The disease is the same name as the lab.

That's just a little too weird.

Don't you think?

And then they ask those scientists, they're like, How did this?

So wait a minute, you work at the Wuan Respiratory Coronavirus Lab.

How did this happen?

And they're like,

a pangolin kissed a turtle.

Yeah.

And Colbert was in the same kind of boat of Sky.

Oh, yeah.

Now, this can't be.

What evidence do you have?

Remember, he had the dancing, the dancing hypodermic needles during COVID.

He did.

Promoting the vaccine.

I forgot about the dancing hypodermic needles.

So, Scott had a couple of comments that I thought were one was a teaser, and then one was a tell.

And it has to do with the possibility that this

is not your typical prostate cancer because

I knew Bill Ziff had prostate cancer when I first met him.

And he went, he must have had it for 20 years.

And he finally succumbed to it, but it took him forever.

And it didn't seem to affect him.

He didn't have the slurring or anything that's going on with Scott.

And

I don't know

how he actually finally died when he died.

But I thought that this was revealing and may indicate there's something more going on than just simple prostate cancer.

This plays Scott Adams teaser.

Doctors who have appeared on social media and on the TV, I don't think they're right either.

Okay.

So the doctors all came, all of a sudden, we had a deluge, a deluge

of doctors coming on saying, well, Biden had this forever.

He probably had it in his entire presidency.

And they went going on and on, and they got it to the point where they

predated it, pre-COVID vaccine, because we know Biden got a couple of shots.

A couple.

Four or five, four or five.

A lot, I think.

But

by saying that, oh, he probably had it when he got elected in 2020,

you know,

probably before that, because it takes forever to get to this point of bone

affecting the bones,

it takes six, seven, eight, nine years.

And Scott,

which predates the shot.

Yes.

Scott teases that he thinks that the doctors aren't right.

Why would he say that?

Because

you can play some clips of Scott currently, and then you can play him from two years ago.

And I don't think he had anything wrong with him two years ago.

If you listen to him, he was just too spry, too, too.

I mean, it's still funny.

He's a thing he's one of the, I think, Scott Adams.

I told him this too.

I said, Did you talk to him recently?

Is that

exchanged a note, a couple of notes?

I've never told him this in person, but I believe him to be on the same league as Mark Twain and Will Rogers as a contemporary humorist.

And

he did appreciate that comment.

But I believe it to be true.

There's not that many people that come around that.

Let me ask you this.

Why would a guy like Scott Adams, who has a lot of, he's always been,

you know, always looking at medical stuff and always worried about his health.

I mean,

was there nothing to be done for him?

Did he just give up?

Did he just say, okay, I'm going to live with this?

I mean,

it seems so unscale.

I think this is what tells me with that tease that this came on faster than imaginable.

Like turbo fasts?

Yes.

So listen to the tell.

This is Scott Adams, tell.

But the big question is, how long does it take to go from a clean bill of health to stage four prostate cancer?

So I heard one doctor say

it would take seven to ten years or something like that.

I don't think that's right.

I think there's actually a tremendous variability of how long it takes to go from localized in the prostate and your PSA spikes to, uh-oh, it is spread to your bones.

He sounds like he's on Percocet, actually.

Something like that.

More twice, more or less twice.

His description of the pain is like he's had to be on a morphine.

Oh, morphine, yeah.

Oh, man, I feel so bad.

That sucks.

Well, yeah, because he is a good observer.

You get material from material ideas, at least, and we don't see it.

We had a fight with him.

Now I feel bad about the fight.

You should.

Don't do that to me.

Don't.

Don't do that to me.

I will pray for somebody.

But I think, and I don't, you know, I'm not going to even discuss it with him, which is the vax issue,

that this came on.

Most people, you get prostate cancer, the rule is that

nothing you can do about it, really.

You can have your prostate removed, but that you know, you can do that, but it doesn't make any difference, it turns out, if you have it removed or not, because it's such a slow-moving process that by the time you're in your 80s,

you are going to die of something else anyway.

It's just the way it is.

And for this to happen at this rapid pace, which Scott indicates, as far as I can tell, because he has the talent he has the

foreboding.

And then he says those doctors are full of shit

about Biden.

You don't say that from a perspective unless you know something.

Well, I hope that he speaks his mind in his final days.

It would be very

good for humanity.

Yeah, I think it will.

I mean, he's still doing his show.

I don't know.

I sure hope he will.

I don't know how long he can continue doing it, but he can do it probably for a while.

Gosh, in light of the Michael Yaden clips we played on the last show, it's just horrible.

It's just horrible.

Yeah, I think those clips are applicable.

Yeah.

But this is this, but the idea of prostate,

there was some commentary about the spike protein headed toward reproductive organs.

Well, for sure.

For sure.

So there's some of that kind of thing.

But if this is going to show up as a turboprostate cancer,

that's going to have some at some point.

They're going to have to say something.

Somebody has to say something.

No, well, Scott may say something.

Well, he may be.

No, he won't.

He won't.

I don't believe he will.

It's the plastics you're drinking.

It's something, it's environmental.

It's all kinds of.

We don't know.

We can't think of a single thing that changed.

That's what your medical community is saying.

Which is.

Well, Ron Johnson just came out with the report about myocarditis.

Yeah, the report

just dropped in my inbox.

Like, whoa.

Yeah, the report just came out, and he says,

they have to change the

recommendation for this vaccine.

Yes, like, no.

Let's change the recommendation.

Yeah, well,

that's what they're discussing, right?

There was a big brouhah about it.

It's like, well, it should only be for old people who are on death's door.

Yeah, pretty much.

You might as well

push them over the cliff.

Yeah.

Yeah.

yeah we'll see okay but anyway it's a depressing situation that is depressing yes but to lighten it you could ask him if he has anal leakage he might get a kick out of it i'm not gonna try to do

material

the dying man okay i'm just thinking like i want to cheer the guy because i i know it there's some stuff i know he thinks is funny yeah but i'm not i'm enough of an asshole anyway i'm gonna overdo it well

i I still pray for Scott Adams that things can turn around.

Anything is possible.

You know, anything is possible,

but I think it is possible.

I think it's possible.

I really think it's possible.

Just along the lines of COVID, our new NIH director, Jay Battachari, Battachari,

gave a speech in front of some staff, like, I don't know, an auditorium full of staff.

And when he said this, people stood up and walked out of the auditorium.

It's possible.

There's a lot of controversy over this.

I'm sure there's folks in the room who disagree with me.

But it's possible that the pandemic was caused by research conducted by human beings.

And it's also possible that the NIH

partly sponsored that research.

And if that's true,

it's nice to have free speech.

Welcome, you guys.

There they go.

All walking out.

Yeah, they're walking out to go to get to their lawyers' office.

If it's

If it's true that we sponsored research that caused a pandemic,

and if you look at polls of the American people, that's what most people believe.

And I've looked at the scientific evidence, I believe it.

What we have to do is make sure that we do not engage in research that's any risk of posing any risk to human populations.

That's a very good standard.

Heaven forbid we do that.

I have a couple of clips about the limitation of the COVID vaccine/slash booster from the man who would know all about it.

Fauci.

Oh, wait.

Hotep.

How is the approval process changing and who will be affected the most?

Well, the first part, Pam, is not much of a change.

Because it reduces hospitalizations and deaths, the recommendation is to

provide annual immunizations to those over the age of 65

and those with sure that is hotep yeah that is hotep and he i didn't realize until i just i mean i recognized his voice but i didn't realize he does sound a little bit like a just a pubescent teen he sounds like a boy

he just without looking at him he does not sound like a mature male

no well he's definitely got something wrong with him fertilizations and deaths the recommendation is to

provide annual immunizations to those over the age of 65 and those with or those with underlying risk factors.

And in a guidance document they published in the New England Journal of Medicine, they listed what those risk factors are.

So no problem there.

The part that I disagree with is they've stopped recommending universal vaccinations for those individuals under the age of 65.

And the reason I think that's a mistake mistake is because they're not really considering the impact of long COVID.

There's now evidence to suggest that if you vaccinate, keep up with your immunization.

What is evidence to suggest?

Is that evidence?

If there's evidence to suggest?

It doesn't mean anything.

It doesn't mean there's evidence.

He said there's some stuff to suggest, but it's not evidence that suggests.

Because they're not really considering the impact of long COVID.

There's now evidence to suggest that if you vaccinate, keep up with your immunizations, you're much less likely to experience long COVID.

And I think there's a lot of people concerned about long COVID and potentially they're not eligible.

I think another reason is there is some impact on reducing virus transmission if you're vaccinated.

So I'm starting to get emails and direct messages on Blue Sky and

Blue Sky from people in their 40s and 50s who are taking care of aging parents and they're worried about giving COVID to their parents.

So I think that's another reason to vaccinate.

So I think, you know, this, in my view, this should be a decision made between individuals and their physicians if you're under the age of 65.

And basically the federal government is taking that decision

away from us.

And

I'm puzzled by that, given the fact that this administration, at least Department of Health and Human Services, keeps on beating the drum about health freedom, medical freedom.

This seems to be the opposite of that.

Yeah, because they won't pay for it.

You can take the vax if you want.

You should have seen the FDA page, or I don't know if if it was the FDA page, about this

new recommendation.

I don't think it was

a furboten thing.

No, it wasn't.

That's not.

He's full of shit, that guy.

There were

5,000 comments of people saying like that, but I want it.

I want it.

What if I want it?

I want it.

I want it.

I want it.

It's like, wow, okay.

Yeah, well, there are people that want it, and

they can do what they want.

Well, here's his follow-up.

It's interesting, Doctor, that this change brings the U.S.

approval process in line with other countries like the U.K., Canada, and Australia.

The FDA hopes this change might help restore public confidence in vaccine safety.

Does this change help achieve that goal?

You know, I don't think so.

I think what undermines public confidence in vaccine safety is all of the anti-vaccine activism and rhetoric

that you're hearing on other cable news channels and some of the conspiracy podcasts.

Yeah, we got to mention

conspiracy podcasts.

And that's what's going to help restore vaccine confidence.

If anything, I think...

Get rid of those.

What does he say?

What's going to restore vaccine confidence?

Getting rid of those conspiracy podcasts?

The conspiracy.

Yeah, that'll do it.

Let me go back it up a second.

What do you say here?

That you're hearing on other cable news channels and some of the conspiracy conspiracy podcasts.

And that's what's going to help restore vaccine confidence.

In other words, get rid of this.

Let me hear it again.

Let me hear it again.

You know, I don't think so.

I think what undermines public confidence in vaccine safety is all of the anti-vaccine activism and rhetoric that you're hearing on other cable news channels and some of the conspiracy podcasts.

And that's what's going to help restore vaccine confidence of anything,

that's very interesting.

He says

the confidence is, well, so the question is about the confidence.

He says, well, I think it's

because of the rhetoric, anti-vaccine rhetoric, and the conspiracy podcast, that's going to restore confidence.

What he left out was, we're going after him?

It's like he forgot to say something in there.

You know what I mean?

No, I don't know what you mean.

I've listened to that.

Well,

listen to the clip again.

It's interesting, Doctor, that this change brings the U.S.

approval process in line with other countries like the U.K., Canada, and Australia.

The FDA hopes this change might help restore public confidence in vaccine safety.

Does this change help achieve that goal?

Okay, does this change help achieve that goal?

You know, I don't think so.

I think what undermines public confidence in vaccine safety is all of the anti-vaccine activism and rhetoric that you're hearing on other cable news channels and some of the conspiracy podcasts.

Okay, no,

here's what he said.

They said, you think that the new policies will change the anti-the vaccine, the

public perception?

And

he says, no, that won't, because the real problem is other networks, Fox and OAN, and these other

fringe channels and the anti-vaxxers on these conspiracy podcasts.

That's what the problem is, is what he said.

Okay, let's just listen to the last 16 seconds and then we'll decide after that.

Does this change help achieve that goal?

You know, I don't think so.

I think what undermines public confidence in vaccine safety is all of the anti-vaccine activism and rhetoric that you're hearing on other cable news channels and some of the conspiracy podcasts, and that's what's going to help restore vaccine confidence.

If anything, I think this now kind of takes decisions away from individuals making health decisions in collaboration with their physician.

It takes away that option.

And I don't think that's the way we should go in the United States.

I know.

It sounded strange to me.

I don't know, man.

Oh, I know exactly what you're thinking now

because he

you're right.

You're right.

What?

He said, what?

Say a good thing.

You get right.

I didn't hear you.

He said,

he talked about the podcast, and he says, that's what will restore.

Yes.

And what he left out was getting rid of this disinformation is what will restore.

No, no, he didn't say getting rid of disinformation.

No, that's what he didn't say.

That's what you were missing.

Yes.

He meant to say that.

Yes.

What he meant to say is getting rid of podcasts.

Podcast.

It's podcast.

He's against the podcast.

Yes, he left that out.

but that's what he meant.

Anyway, final bit here.

He was thinking it, but he didn't say it.

This is the final clip where he introduces a term that is worth discussing.

In making this decision, FDA officials said there is not enough evidence that healthy children and adults get clinically meaningful benefits from regular COVID-19 shots.

They want to see more placebo-controlled trials, particularly in adults 50 to 64, before recommending the shots for other groups.

So, what's wrong with that?

Well, there's a couple of things.

One, they only consider the acute manifestations of COVID in terms of case fatality rates and hospitalizations.

And while that's certainly important, they're not factoring in the chronic sequelae, such as long COVID, such as chronic sequelae.

Chronic sequelae.

And now, all of a sudden, long COVID is a thing.

Sequelae is a condition resulting from a disease, injury, therapy, or other trauma.

A typical sequela is a chronic complication of an acute condition, a long-term effect of a temporary disease or injury.

So now long COVID is a sequela.

Certainly important.

They're not factoring in the chronic sequelae, such as long COVID,

such as

downstream heart disease.

Remember, this is a thromboembolic virus, is the virus that causes strokes and heart attacks.

They're not looking at the chronic implications of COVID.

And I think that's a mistake.

And then the other is the idea that they'll allow universal vaccination provided the pharma companies now conduct a brand new round of clinical trials for each updated variant.

It's not realistic because it can take months and months to do the enrollment.

The expense of doing a trial to, especially now when everyone's been either previously infected or infected and vaccinated or vaccinated and infected, it would be a massive, massive study that would be prohibitively expensive.

It basically means

pharma companies are probably not likely to pursue that.

So it's really a way of denying vaccine access for those who want it.

And it goes against what Mr.

Kennedy recently said.

He made a point of saying he'll never deny any American access to any vaccine.

And clearly, that's not the case.

He's changed his mind, apparently.

Yeah, my doctor has told me, get the COVID booster shot.

You might still wind up getting COVID, but it'll be a much milder case than if you had one

that's a booster shot.

Dr.

Peter Hotes, good for you.

Thanks as usual for joining us.

We always appreciate your expertise.

Yeah, so Brolf got a phone.

Thank you, Brolf.

Good one.

You helped us.

Thank you very much.

Thanks for saying that.

Thanks for promoting it at the end of that confusing conversation.

We appreciate that.

So back to President Biden.

Now, my first thought there was

they're finally going to kill him if he's not dead already.

And all of a sudden,

I, you know, it's the meme that there's one of the memes in the newsletter to kind of have that in mind.

Morbidity.

I think that, yeah, that's what I was thinking.

They're going to, they want to, the guys, guys decided to go back out on the speaking tours,

and they don't want that.

Nobody wants to.

He doesn't listen to anyone, so they're going to kill him.

You know, so now we have this expose.

Wait, before we get to the expose, a little reminder, a little mini cut of the M5M calling President Biden's stuttering and unintelligible language cheap fakes.

Do we remember this period of time?

Oh, yeah, who can forget?

It's cheap fakes, everybody.

This version of Biden, intellectually, analytically, is the best Biden ever.

If it weren't the truth, I wouldn't say it.

Look, I'll do what he's unable to do.

I'll lead an effective strategy to mobilize true international suffrage to pressure, isolate, and punish China.

Thanks to all the members of Congress and Homeland Security, Secretary.

I'm not sure you're going to introduce all the way.

We were hearing about so-called cheap fakes.

It's playing out on right-wing media, Fox, New York Post, and so on.

And all of this is to try to make the case that Biden is slipping, he's confused, and so on.

She knows so long as I say denied our freedom can never be secured.

We'll teach Donald Trump a valuable lesson.

Don't mess with the men in America unless you want to get the benefit of it.

There are a lot of videos going around about President Biden on social media.

Which ones are real?

Which ones are deceptively edited?

Now being called cheap fakes.

A lot of memes and what the White House is calling cheap fakes.

Cheap fakes are a little bit simpler.

They're cheap.

They're just distorted, out-of-context videos, chopped up in certain ways, constructed in certain ways.

That's what we're seeing.

That's what the Biden administration, the Biden campaign, is so worried about right now.

How do you lead the world without having the best infrastructure?

How do you lead the world without

having the best health care in the world?

How do you lead the world without having the best education system?

How do you lead the world when you don't have that done?

We owe these truths to be self-evident.

All men and women were created by the gold.

You know the

thing.

Oh, man.

Of course,

we knew what was going on.

We talked about it.

Now, so Jake Tapper and this Alex Thompson from Axios, they wrote a book, which to me, I mean, and this even comes up in some of the CBS stuff, seemed like, wow, okay.

So you get away with covering up and then you get to write a book and get to say, oh, no, we did some investigative journalism.

It's great.

But no one has answered yet.

And no one has asked.

What was up with Daddy Longlegs?

Don't pussyfoot around.

Who was that guy?

Who was that guy?

Is he dead?

Did you kill him?

Because obviously you can't have a perfectly good Biden walking around with legs that are too long.

So that question never came up.

However,

I have decided that we need to cover more of the podcast media because it is media that people are listening to.

One of the most popular would be.

I feel the same way, and I have some clips

later in the show that has nothing to do with this.

But the same thing.

You got to go to the podcast.

You got to go to the podcast.

And the job for the No Agenda producers is, of course, to send us podcasts with time codes.

Yes, and it's very important that we get this from the outside because there's too damn many podcasts.

I know.

It's crazy.

There's over 4.4 million podcasts that I know of

because you keep track of the number and I always grill you about it.

Well, let me give you the current number because the number that counts is the number of active podcasts in the last 90 days,

which means they have updated with an episode in the last 90 days.

That number is 488,484 as of today.

Still too many.

It's too many people.

That is like a lot of podcasts.

Yeah.

That's global now.

That's global.

That's more than one out of it.

For every thousand people you run into, there's

someone's doing a podcast.

Podcaster.

That's a horrible statistic.

So you need to help us with time codes.

We both listen to podcasts, but it's impossible to listen to everything.

However, Megan Kelly.

And they're also lengthy.

Well, but that's the beauty of the podcast, man.

No, that's the great part about a podcast.

If you're a customer of the podcast and you like listening to somebody yuck away for a while, but in terms of us...

collecting clips,

it makes it very difficult.

Said the man who does a three and a half hour podcast twice twice a week.

So

please help us with that.

It is very important.

And Megan Kelly, absolutely one of the top podcasters.

She just started a new feature, which is the AM update.

I really appreciate what she's doing here.

It's about 15 to 18 minutes long.

This is something I can listen to on a daily basis.

Most of it's like, okay.

But she had Tapper and Thompson on, and her

interview was a lot better than anything else.

So,

yes.

I just wanted to say, I watched this too.

The guy, Tapper, took all the flack.

This other guy was, he must have been just wiping his brow on and off because she never grilled him.

Well, she, no, she didn't grill him.

She only asked him a question.

I think the deal here, this guy had a, he had a book deal to do a book about Biden before the election.

So I think

he's the deal guy.

He really has the book, and Tapper is there to be the lightning rod.

His name on it.

The lightning rod.

He's supposed to take all the heat, and he deserves it.

He deserves it.

It could only ever work if you allowed it, if the press allowed it.

Some of us tried not to, and some of us were complicit.

The Biden White House did not like me.

Okay, this is, I do not have great connections with the Biden White House.

Says the guy who was at the birthday party of the deputy CIA director hanging out, hobnobbing with everybody.

Okay.

Well, clearly, is an honest source.

You said you talked to over 200 sources for this book.

This was after someone could have called and worked.

No, that's the point is that they were not being honest.

That's how did the Wall Street Journal get it in June of 2024?

And Jake Tapper and CNN couldn't find sources for this story then before he dropped out.

Annie Linsky and Siobhan Hughes did an amazing job in their reporting.

They didn't get the book deal, though, Nana Nana.

And they should be heralded, and I heralded them.

I had them on my show right after the debate to talk about the great reporting.

But Annie Linsky.

But you did not put them on when they published that story, which was before the debate.

Correct.

If we're going to do this,

let's just stick to the facts here, okay?

Oh,

what a douche.

If we're going to do this, let's just stick to the facts, okay, Megan.

Which was before the debate.

Correct.

If we're going to do this,

let's just stick to the facts here, okay?

When there is a damaging report.

That's what I've been doing all along.

I'm talking about what you just said.

Sorry, I just missed

the biggest story of the century when it comes to presidential politics.

And one of us did.

All right.

Then we get into a very interesting angle where instead of saying the podcasts were right, oh no, it was conservative media.

And Alex and I are here to say that conservative media was right, and conservative media was correct and that there should be a lot of soul searching, not just among me, but among the legacy media to begin with.

Soul searching.

John,

you and I should do some soul searching of our own.

Like, why are we doing this?

I always believe that.

But among the legacy media to be.

Legacy media.

That's you.

It's yourself.

To begin with, all of us, for how this was covered or not covered sufficiently.

100%.

Oh, whenever someone says 100% from now on, I agree.

You might as well say bull crap.

You know what I mean?

It's almost like

my bad.

That's another one.

Boy, when they say my bad, or we bad, or are bad,

it's just sickening.

That's on me.

And by the way, check the calendar on that one, people.

Yeah.

That's on me.

That's another one.

That's on me.

That's on me.

That's another one.

Yeah, that's on me.

For how this was covered or not covered sufficiently.

100%.

So,

I mean, I'm not here to defend coverage that I've already acknowledged.

I wish I could do differently.

No, you don't.

But then this was the eye-opener to me, is that

this is what actually happened during that fateful debate when he and I think Dana Bash were hosting it.

This is something like, if you're doing this during a debate you

make this conclusion, you should have been on the air the next hour talking about it.

So we have iPads because you can't communicate, obviously, talking to your control room during a debate.

We have iPads.

I wrote, holy smokes.

Now, what I was thinking was, holy fuck, Dana writes to me on a piece of paper, he just lost the election.

And it was just, I mean, it is, I don't think this is hyperbole at all, the worst debate in the history of presidential presidential debates going back to 1960.

I just can't think of anything even remotely close to it.

Who cares about your stats about 1960?

And then you saw him immediately after.

You write in the book, and he seemed like unaware that

something.

Did I just see that?

Was that, did I just witness this 90-minute event?

Yeah, so, okay, so he's full of crap.

But then she does the one question here from Alex Thompson.

A lot of names we'd already guessed because we surmise as well.

Someone else is running the show.

It's not President Biden.

The people that we're naming would be Mike Donnellin, Steve Richetti.

Mike Donnelly's top political advisor.

Steve Richetti is his top legislative advisor.

Ron Klain, when he was chief of staff, Bruce Reed, his basically longtime policy advisor.

Those are sort of the four.

They were known as Apollo Burrow, Gray Hairs, Pooh Bahs.

And they were with him the most of anybody.

Now, if you were to ask them, and I still think even if you put them on Truth Serum today, they would say he was fine.

Then there's this other sort of group that aren't the Pulitz Bureau, but are just as powerful, and they were the ones that kept the schedule,

affected personnel, and really built the bubble.

And that would be Annie Tomasini, who's deputy chief of staff and previously Oval Office Operations, and then Anthony Bernal, who was the top aide/slash enforcer for First Lady Jill Biden and had incredible influence to the point that even people in the Biden White House would refer to her as one of the most powerful First Ladies in history.

Oh, I have a couple of clips that follow this now because he left one person out.

Will she be in the clips?

Which clip is it, John?

These are the Lindy Lee clips.

Oh, Lindy Lee.

Oh, Lindy Lee.

Yeah, this is the,

she was a fundraiser, big time, and she's always in the White House, and she's spending a lot of time.

She's all over the place.

She's been on every podcast about Kamala Harris and the money and all this, because she was a fundraiser, and she's mad, hopping mad.

She basically is hopping mad.

Yes, you're right.

Jill desperately.

So basically, she's turned on Biden.

What she's done, she is profiling herself.

She is not a whistleblower.

She is not a turncoach.

She is profiling herself.

For whatever reason, she is hyping up Lindy Lee.

I'm not sure what she's up to, but her information is quite entertaining.

Let's put it that way.

Here we go.

Jill desperately wanted him to stay.

And please bear in mind that during this time, Biden had COVID.

And Hunter was basically sitting in on White House meetings, high-level meetings that require security clearances.

This guy is, honestly, I'm not even entirely sure if he's a recovering drug addict.

And it's undeniable that he peddled his influence to enrich himself in the big guy, quote unquote.

So, this is a guy sitting in the Oval Office, listening in on top-level White House meetings throughout this time, throughout the month of July.

And I know because my friends are senior aides, and you know, like Steve Roschetti and Nina Dunn.

So, Biden was like incapacitated this entire time because he was really sick.

And remember that a few days before Trump suffered the assassination attempt.

So people were freaking out.

They rightly thought that the election was over.

How do you beat a guy like that?

And the way that he handled that with such self-possession, I would have been freaking out.

I would have been hysterical on stage.

No, no, no, no, no, it was incredible watching him, that moment of composure and everything else.

Right.

I mentioned that because Democrats were in

complete disarray, would be putting it mildly.

And this is the thing that people don't understand or they don't even know.

And it hasn't been reported.

There was no money coming in, other than the monthly recurring Act Blue donations that they trick you into giving, obviously.

But this is not an exaggeration.

There was no money coming in after the debate.

Like, I mean, zero.

What podcast is this from?

Okay, this is Dave Rubin.

Oh, okay, Dave Rubin.

And you wouldn't know it because

the way this was edited by me.

You edited out Dave Rubin because he's a little long-winded and annoying.

He's not only long-winded, you don't realize until you have to sit there and edit him, and you think to yourself, I could be doing 10 clips instead of this one.

Which means podcasts could be 10% the length of what they really are.

He'll ask a question

three or four different ways

before he lets the other person talk.

He did not go to the School of Podcasting by Dave Jackson.

He yak, yak, yak, and yaks, and then doubles down and kind of reiterates and does it again and again and again.

I cut all of it out, including the back and there was a number of back and forth.

Megan Kelly does that too, by the way.

She has

I've tried to clip her up too.

She also is too talkative.

And so this, so these clips are tight compared to, I mean, if it even doesn't.

Maybe we have to just do an interview show, John.

Maybe that's just where we have to go.

Show these kids how it's done, son.

No, maybe not.

That sounds like a pain in the back.

Maybe not.

Let's go with Clay.

No, I think what we've got is the best formula for a show is that we move along.

Here we go.

Staffers who I would just be like shooting shit with on the sofa because they had nothing to do.

And we would just be commiserating because everybody lost faith.

So Biden kind of markets his decision as an act of patriotism.

It wasn't.

There was no money coming in.

So there was no way he would have continued.

There's just no way.

But putting the money part aside, do you have any insight or info as to what the day or two before he stepped down was like?

Yeah, and I want to say I first hinted at this on the Sean Ryan show, and then suddenly that new book that's coming out, Fight, I hate even mentioning it.

I don't want to give them the free advertising, but they were repeating something that I already said two months ago, like it's some new intel.

The role of Congressman James Clyburn has been seriously underestimated in the public sphere.

He played such a huge role in so many instances of Biden's recent life, starting with his 2020 campaign.

If it hadn't been James Clyburn, there would have been no Biden presidency.

I want to be extremely clear about that because he came in fifth in New Hampshire.

He was done.

And he bombed in Iowa, too.

Dave, do you remember this?

James Clyburn saved his butt by endorsing him and allowing him to win the South Carolina primary.

If it hadn't been his intervention, Biden would have been done.

And that was the point at which Amy Klobuchar, Pete Budigej, and everyone theater work or rally around him.

That was Clyburn.

Clyburn is also the person that made him appoint Kentanji Brown Jackson.

The woman who can't say who a woman is.

Yeah, no.

Right.

Hired because she or nominated because she was a woman, just doesn't know what a woman is.

Exactly.

And let's just be very clear.

All these people are DEI candidates.

Oh, I forgot to mention that Kamala Harris is picked also largely because of James Clyburn.

Hmm.

Yeah, that little kid.

That's interesting.

Yeah, that is good.

Because

we had other thoughts on that, but

she does say in another part of this interview that the three people that ran the show were Anita Dunn, was number one,

which was not mentioned on that other clip that you had.

No.

Anita Dunn, who's just a horrible-looking person, Anita Dunn, Roschetti, and Donnelly, who is brother of the CEO of BlackRock.

Anita Dunn looks like,

what's that, Admiral?

Who was the Admiral?

She's usually Rachel Levine.

Rachel Levine, she does look like Rachel Levine.

Wow.

So

Donald, who's the other guy who is the

brother of the guy who runs BlackRock, is largely responsible for passing BlackRock's the one who pushed the DEI agenda on the corporate world.

Yes.

Which reminds me of my recent experience with the Lexus dealer.

I'll complain about that on another show.

Very disappointed in how Lexis is turned into.

Well, I want to stick a pin in that one because I'm interested in hearing that covered that little story.

But those are the three she claims are really the ones who ran the show.

And here's the last clip.

Biden's original intention was to not endorse Kamala that day at all.

And he would just roll it out at his own leisurely pace.

He wanted this stage to himself.

to

basically make a victory lap and you know

luxuriate in all the love and admiration that he thought he deserved.

But James Clyburn insisted.

Actually, he wanted Biden to endorse him in the first tweet.

There were two tweets and separated by half an hour.

But the fact that Biden endorsed her so quickly afterwards was because of James.

And he kind of flies under the radar, but Clyburn is at every major fundraiser.

I always see him at VIP events.

He has his youngest-looking wife.

I forget her name.

And the two of them would just be there, like meandering the crowd.

They're always there.

I hosted Biden-Harris here in Philadelphia in February 2023.

Clyburn was there.

I raised half a million for them

in September, right after the debate in D.C., and Clyburn was there.

He's there everywhere, just exerting a quiet influence.

And I'm just, I'm genuinely shocked that the public hasn't caught on.

Wow.

She's vying for a gig somewhere else, that's for sure.

Yeah, I know.

How many bridges can she burn?

She has to give her herself and her ability.

Burning the bridges.

So Dunn is married to Robert Bauer, former partner at Perkins Coe

and former personal counsel to President Obama and the White House counsel.

They are the power couple of Washington, D.C.

Well, that makes sense.

With a face like that, you better have some power.

Sorry to say it.

I hate being the superficial.

Yeah, I hate when you do that, but heaven forbid, I would never

never make you would never say that i would never comment on somebody's homely book no no no well i think that for a moment here we should just uh take a little breather and we should listen to what the ladies from the view had to say about this book original sound the tone a clip from the view will be played

shelter in place

should anonymous sources who talked to tapper have spoken up about their concerns while he was in office while he was still in office and my other question is why is this important to know now

Yeah.

Well, that's what Trump's people are.

Wow, wow.

It seems to me,

you know, we got a lot of stuff to be concerned about at the moment.

Shall I listen?

Yes, please.

Here's the Trump's atrocities.

I'm going to list them for you.

Cutting Medicaid.

Yeah.

Well, this is what we're concerned about now.

Oh, I got you.

Okay.

Cutting Medicaid, slashing funding for cancer research.

Rising prices because of tariffs.

Dismantling USAID, which helps children and people who are poor around the world.

Fears of recession, destroying due process, ending birthright citizenship, dismantling the Department of Education, rolling back regulations on air and war quality, destroying our relationships with allies like Canada and the U.K., and targeting his political opponents.

Preach.

And not only that, but he also said that Joe Biden has stage 9 cancer.

Oh, really?

Where did he come up with that?

When is Dave Tapper going to write a book about the cognitive decline of the person who is in charge right now?

Preach, girl, preach, girl, preach.

Yeah, you need to write a book about that.

Meanwhile, and I'll get back to Tapper in a moment, President Trump spoke at the Kennedy dinner last night.

Was it last night, the night before last night?

And I don't, did you see any video of this?

No, I saw none of it.

He had a lectern, more like a stand for his speech notes.

And like a...

A golden eagle is holding, it's holding up the speech.

But it's not just a golden eagle.

It looks like the golden eagle eagle is made of gold, clearly.

It has a head like a cartoon.

It's not

made of gold.

It has a head like one of those cartoon eagles, like Captain America cartoon eagles.

Oh, that's funny.

It's very

leaderistic, let me put it that way.

And he says, hey,

whatever you say, you know, we were numb nuts before I came along.

As they said, the king of Saudi Arabia said, your place, your country is a whole different image now.

We were a laughing stock,

an absolute laughing stock, but we're not a laughingstock any longer.

And, you know, I was talking to, as I said, President Putin for two and a half hours that was being very seriously listened to.

We don't like what's happening.

We don't like that we should have ever been involved.

It would have never happened.

But we're respected again as a country.

You know, one thing that

I tell you that I think is amazing.

If you remember about eight months ago, the big story was that nobody wants to join our military.

We couldn't have any people weren't joining.

And they weren't proud of our country.

They weren't joining police forces all over the country, Houston, Dallas, all over the country, New York.

And now we have a record-setting enlistment in the military.

Think of that record-setting.

The most in 38 years, but it's probably more than that.

They started taking the numbers, Susie, 38 years ago, right?

But the most in 30 years, probably the most ever, I don't know.

But we have record-setting

young people that want to join the military, and that's incredible.

To have that is just absolutely incredible.

And to think that eight months ago, we were all listening to the fact that this was before the election,

eight months ago, we were listening to the fact that we wouldn't have any, you know, we wouldn't have anybody in our military, I mean, nobody.

Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines, Space Force, I'm so proud of Space Force, because we got that going.

We started Space Force, and they wanted to terminate it, and the military backed up.

And they said, you're not going to do that.

We were third in space, and now we're number one in space by a lot.

They've done a great job.

They had some great commanders in Space Force, but you know, ultimately, it's going to be one of the most important things we've ever done because it's all heading to space.

And I'm not talking about just experimental things that we do.

We're going to space.

We can understand that.

But we're, in terms of defense and offense of our country.

Yeah, we're number one.

I just

want to play a few of these CBS

this morning with CBS, Gail and the gang with

Tapper and Thompson.

Tapper and Thompson.

You don't need the intro.

Okay, so they are blaming all of this on

the administration, on the AIDS, on the White House, who was running the White House.

That's all their fault.

Did you guys think the AIDS were being deceitful, or did you think that they really believed that he was going to be okay, Alex, and he would be able to do the job?

I think some of the early steps were done with innocent enough reasons.

You want your principal to look good.

But as his diminishment increased, some of those actions became increasingly deceitful.

Because the fact is that the Biden that we saw on the debate stage last June, he had other moments like that behind the scenes, and increasingly so.

And they started structuring his schedule, his public schedule, to make sure that the public didn't see it.

And even some people inside their own administration, their own White House, their own cabinet, did not not see this.

Yeah, no one saw it.

No one saw it.

Remember how deceitful they were with the sharp as attack?

The what?

Sharp as attack.

He's sharp as attack.

Oh, sharp as attack.

Sharp as attack.

Yeah, he runs circles around you.

Yeah, sharp as attack, everybody.

Sharp as attack.

Speaking of circles.

As we all know, there's a difference between the outer rung and then your inner circle.

And when it comes to proximity, the former first lady, Joe Biden, is the closest to him.

Do you believe that she was complicit in this cover-up?

I think the main people complicit in hiding the non-functioning Biden were President Biden, First Lady Biden, Hunter Biden, and then his immediate circle of aides that other people in the White House called the Pollock Bureau, Mike Donnellin, Steve Ruschetti, and some others.

They were the ones

who.

Afraid, afraid to mention Anita Dunn, pussy.

He's afraid.

He's afraid.

He knows.

You know, I better not mention Dunn.

Donnelly and Bruschetti are being roasted for this.

Donnelly and Roschetti are getting the brunt of it.

Yeah, I agree.

Donnelly and Steve Roschetti and some others.

They were the ones

who saw President Biden

every day,

up close and personal, and whether they were lying to themselves and everybody else or just everybody else.

And that is a big question.

Right.

I agree.

Well, it's a big question.

There was no cover-up.

So, one of those aides, Roschetti, referred us to the Biden team statement, which is there's nothing in this book that shows Joe Biden failed to do his job,

nor did they prove their allegation that there was a cover-up or conspiracy.

Nowhere do they show that our national security was threatened or President Biden wasn't otherwise engaged in the important matters of the presidency.

But I actually feel you do show

if he's not meeting with cabinet members, if they don't have direct access to him, if he sometimes lights out at 5.15 or dinner at 4.30, as you reported even during the administration.

I do genuinely wonder if something had occurred of national concern, who was making the decisions at that point?

Well, I'll just say, you know, we didn't make this up.

The fact is that people outside the administration told us this, that they did not, we had multiple cabinet members that said if there had been a crisis, especially in 2024, late in the middle of the night, they did not have confidence that Joe Biden would necessarily be up to that task.

And as a result, you sort of have the institutional aspects of the presidency that would have probably, you know, tried to take hold.

So, I mean, you mentioned

the other day that the 25th Amendment is no good.

Should people like this who are very aware of it, shouldn't they be held?

I mean, can you just call them traitors?

Can they be held accountable to any standard for not disclosing what was really going on?

I think you can call them what you want, but there's nothing you can do about it.

I think it's a, you know, they can publicly humiliate them as far as it's going to get.

Because the rest of it, you could say, make the comment.

In fact, you would say, I would use that as a defense.

Hey, there's the 25th Amendment that we could have done, and we didn't do it for, you know, but so we could have gotten rid of it if we thought it was that bad.

So we were very, pretty sincere.

And if it was that bad, Congress could have done it because if the 25th Amendment also allows Congress

to bypass the

way it's supposed to be done, the first round is the vice president goes to

the

board of directors, over the

administration?

The secretary

goes to the departments, the various

secretaries, secretary, state secretary.

Hey, this guy's toast.

We got to get rid of this guy.

And then they all vote, okay, and they kick him out.

It's this 25th Amendment.

But the vice president doesn't do that, the Congress or the House of Representatives can do it

some way or other, but they still have to get, I think they still have to get the secretaries to agree.

I'm not sure.

I had to look it over again.

But the point is, is that I think you can use that as a defense.

So, this is, I think this is a season of reveal for the American public, if they care to pay attention.

Because

it's exactly, it's exactly it.

It's like there's no accountability.

You don't, well, now we know who was running the show.

We were lied to as the American public.

The news media did not do their job.

No matter how tapered.

The news media is the number one responsible force here.

Absolutely.

They're screwed screwed up.

The people who do not trust these guys anymore.

They listen to podcasts.

Yeah.

Yes.

You have enough people that tell us, oh, you know, I don't even listen.

This is the podcast.

Yeah.

Why is that?

Because of our dark, soothing voices, I'm convinced.

We can talk about that.

That's right, everybody.

So, of course, it would not be CBS if we didn't somehow turn this around and make it about Trump.

You mentioned President Trump.

You know, after writing a book like this, I would assume it gives you a keen eye when it comes to the cognitive and physical declination of

our political.

And now, all of a sudden, I got a keen eye.

Now I know what to look for.

You know, like the guy who's a foot taller running towards the helicopter.

Well, leaders,

and you guys are well sourced, as Gail mentioned.

What are you hearing?

What are you seeing when it comes to our current president?

Is he losing his mind?

Is he out of control?

What do you know, Jake?

You're the expert.

Trump.

I don't think we don't see any effort, any evidence of any sort of deterioration cognitively.

I think the questions about Trump that have always been raised have to do with his personality, which is something that is very out and in the open to the voters.

But to pick up on Alex's point, whether you're talking about President Biden, President Trump, or President Gail King, I think that

choose another name.

The transparency is not a good thing.

Transparency is so important.

It is not required.

Presidents do not have to give their health records to the American people.

And And that needs to change.

It's unacceptable.

After this,

there's no way that the American people should tolerate this ever again.

There needs to be a law on the books requiring full health disclosures, full health, under oath, as Alex said.

Let's hope the doctors tell the truth.

That seems to require

it.

Because the doctors are not always fully disclaimed.

No, like during COVID.

Exactly.

So no one can trust nobody.

That's the bottom line.

No one can trust nobody.

That's right.

Of course.

By the way, I want to,

we have to bring it.

The idea, the daddy long legs thing is still

making me mad.

I think you have to bring it into the conversation more.

Yes.

Because it is the thing.

Yeah, they're making all this, you know, meat couples and they're going into this and that.

And, oh, we missed this, we missed that, or we could have cut.

And no one has brought that up.

Who was that guy?

It's one of the more obvious things because we had this tall, skinny guy with the, you know, boner in.

Who was that guy?

Was it a mask?

These are my questions.

Who was that mask?

There's no discussion

of that technology, the CIA mask.

Which we know is very advanced.

Who was he?

It was advanced in the 60s.

That's right.

Who was he?

Was it a mask?

And did you kill him?

Or is he available for parties, bar mitzvahs, and weddings?

Because he's awesome.

He was pretty good.

He did a good job.

He should receive an Academy Award.

This guy should be, screw Zelensky.

This guy should be on, eh, I played Joe Biden for the entire world.

Oh, yeah, you were awesome.

You were awesome, man.

You really had us fooled.

Except when you were running towards a helicopter at eight feet tall.

So President Trump, of course, takes advantage of this to put the fear of God into certain people.

Do you want to respond to President Biden being diagnosed with cancer?

Are you going to call your your processor?

I think it's very sad, actually.

I think that if you take a look, it's the same doctor that said that Joe was cognitively fine.

There was nothing wrong with him.

Well, he said, if it's the same doctor who said there was nothing wrong there, and that's being proven to be a sad situation,

and the AutoPen is becoming a very big deal.

You know, the AutoPen is becoming a big deal because it seems like that maybe was the President who ever operated the AutoPen.

But when they say that that was not good they also you know you have to look and you have to say then uh

the test was not so good either in other words there are things going on that the public wasn't informed and i think somebody's going to have to speak to his doctor if it's the same or even if it's two separate doctors

yeah now that's going to put the fear into some people who got pardons uh oh uh oh

it was anita dunn who was controlling the pen oh no oh no oh boy i'm in trouble now he's not going to do anything, but I think nothing's going to happen.

No, of course not.

But I think it's fun that he's putting it.

But it will scare people.

People are easily freaked out.

Then this morning, it happened.

BBB used to be billed back better.

Now it's a big, beautiful bill.

On this vote, the yays are 215, the nays are 214,

with one answering present.

The bill is passed.

Woohoo!

Yeah!

No tax on tips.

No tax on Social Security.

No tax on overtime.

No tax on nothing.

Well, I'd like to know how the SALT thing was resolved because one of the guys made a big fuss about it.

I do have some clips.

Well, hold on a second.

I want to play this short clip because

this wasn't going to happen until President Trump went into the meeting.

He had a meeting with the Republicans of the House.

And just so you know, it was a meeting of love.

I think it was a really great

meeting of love.

Let me tell you, that was love in that room.

There was no shouting.

I think it was a meeting of love.

There were a couple of things that we talked about specifically where some people felt a little bit one way or the other, not a big deal.

Yeah, it was a great meeting.

The party is unified.

The House Republican Conference is excited.

Multiple stand-in ovations.

They love this president.

The people back home love what he's doing.

It's historic, and everybody understands the scope and the meaning of this.

If we do not accomplish this mission, every one of you, all the American people, are going to have the highest tax increase that you've ever had.

So I think it was a great, great talk.

It was in a speech.

We talked about things.

Who do you work for?

Nurse.

Who?

Nurse.

I don't even know what the hell that is.

Mr.

President.

Where are you?

Nurse?

Where are you from?

Get yourself a real joke.

Anyway, yes, a meeting of love.

Here's how I think the meeting went.

Hey,

look at this picture.

What is that in your mouth?

That was an obvious.

You know, Trump does that.

He went, where did he go when he showed a picture of the guy's house?

Remember that?

Yeah, it was the Taliban guy.

Yeah, he said, hey, look at this.

What's this?

It's a picture of your house.

So I think that just he had a little stack of pictures, like, look at this, look at this, look at this.

The way politics is always done.

If he did that, it's a Taliban guy.

He probably, you're right.

That's probably his MO.

Of course.

For certain people.

Not everybody's happy.

Massey, of course, is very unhappy about this.

Massey's always unhappy.

Well, I mean, what he's unhappy about is the $4 trillion increase in

the debt.

He should be.

Yes.

By the way, I heard you and Horowitz talking about this on the show.

Oh, you actually listened.

Yes.

And I have something to say.

Horowitz, keep my wife's name out of your mouth.

Be very,

stop making me laugh.

Be very, very careful, Horowitz.

I'm not digging that.

Who do you think you are?

He's like, oh, I'm hitting on Tina.

What?

What?

As my mom would say, you're skating on thin ice, Florida, man.

All right.

Yes.

Well, I'm the one, of course, who's stoking this.

Of course you are.

You love it.

You got nothing better to do.

You're a terrible person.

That's why I always say, don't want me working in an office.

Please.

oh, I know.

I had you in my office.

You're Switzerland between two shows.

You're getting away.

I'm a neutral.

Woe is the day that Horowitz and I make up and team up against you.

By the way, I always love like when Bitcoin goes down, you guys, like, oh, it's supposed to be a hedge.

What is this stupid Bitcoin?

And now it's like 112.

Wow, that's going quite well.

Looking good.

Looking good.

Looking good.

Looking good.

Oh, no, it's because of Coinbase.

They're in the S ⁇ P.

Oh, Coinbase.

Police, you guys.

That was a good.

I like that analysis when you said that.

Yeah, please.

Be consistent.

It's the $4 trillion.

That's what's doing it.

Oh, printing more money.

Hello.

That's what's going on there.

I digest it.

So I want to get this out of the way because this is important.

This is part of the, you know, they always say that the rich are somehow benefiting from Trump

tax cuts for the rich is bull crap.

And they had nothing but trouble getting the salt stuff through.

That salt is state and local taxes.

In other words, I'm in California.

You pay 13%, I think.

I have to pay 13% to the state of California, and I don't get to deduct that from the federal.

Now, can I ask you a question?

Does salt also include your mortgage deduction,

your interest, mortgage interest deduction, or does that?

I don't think so.

That's another issue.

Yeah, that's it.

Because they put a cap on that, but they raised the cap on that.

Thankfully,

they raised it on that too?

No, they raised it on.

That was always going to get raised to 40.

40,000?

From 10,0 wow.

Well, I had time to get it.

If you own some properties, you end up, you know,

I know.

I had time to get a bigger house.

Yes, that's my motto.

So let's just get a little background on this because it's kind of interesting.

I thought it may be beside the point at this point, but let's play salt support.

NPS.

Last week on this program, we heard from Representative Mike Lawler of New York State, one of the Republicans who want to to restore a federal tax deduction for state and local taxes.

Here's what he said then.

As I've said for over two years since coming to Congress, if there was not a fix for salt, I would not support any tax bill that came before me.

I've been loud and clear about that.

Yesterday, President Trump addressed this issue.

He said he doesn't like the salt tax deduction, as it's called, because he said it would benefit, quote, Democrat states.

Representative Lawler is back on on the line from New York.

Representative, good morning.

Good morning, Steve.

Thanks for having me.

Thanks for joining us again.

The president doesn't sound like he's interested at all in your priority anymore.

What does that mean for your vote?

Well, I think the president obviously is anxious to get a bill passed.

We are in the final stages of negotiating that through the House.

And then, as your report just mentioned, it goes to the Senate.

So the President wants us to come to a afternoon and into the evening, meeting with the speaker

and coming to terms on an agreement.

But

we're still working through some of the finer points, and I suspect today we'll be in a much stronger position.

Do you mean to say that you think you're going to get the salt tax deduction or some variant of it or some portion of it?

Oh, we are.

Just so I understand, I live in a state where there's no state income tax.

We do have rather high sales tax and real estate tax, which pays for beautiful roads.

You got big, beautiful roads.

Everything's good.

Everything's fine.

Everything functions.

We have chemtrails, Abbott, something has got to change.

So, what's happening here is when you get to deduct your 13%,

that comes out of my pocket, does it not?

Oh, yeah, it comes right out of your pocket.

Indirectly.

We're coming in there.

We're looking for you, and we're going to hit you over the head with us.

Oh, spoken like a true Cali Kami.

Come on now.

That's the truth.

If you get to deduct it, then

that's what I'm saying.

Why should it be double taxed?

Is the question.

Do you think it's fair?

No, I don't.

I get a dollar, and I get taxed for the bait.

No, but like 13 cents for the dollar, and then I have to pay taxes.

I understand your issue, and you are correct, sir.

However, your state should not be levying tax against you.

Instead, you're going to deduct it from the money you pay into the big pot that I pay into as well.

I do have a small issue with that because you should move out of California.

Why?

Because of the 13% tax.

I'd like the weather.

You'd love Texas.

I don't like it that hot.

I do like Texas weather.

I have no complaints about it, but there are also, they still have tornadoes and other issues.

You're just making it climate change now, whereas I have a point.

It's okay, but that means we are picking up the slack for states like California who are out of control.

You have, you know, you can deduct

your property tax and you can deduct your sales tax.

Some people do that.

I don't know, but nobody I know does it, but I know people that can do it and have done it.

Turbo tax.

Turbo tax has like some formula where they just say, yeah, you probably paid this much.

We'll deduct it.

Yeah, which is great.

Turbo taxes.

Yeah, that's generally acceptable.

I mean, these formulas are accepted by the IRS.

They're pretty liberal about it.

But you get to deduct that, too.

I'm just, look, I don't have to do that.

But my sales tax isn't what yours is, is less.

And also, our property taxes are reasonable because we have Prop 13,

which keeps people from having their property taxes jacked up every year by some maniac, which happens in Washington State and elsewhere.

We don't have that in California, luckily.

Well, how groovy?

It is groovy.

So, onward with Clipped.

Now, I have to remember the NPR, this guy's reasonable,

this Republican from New York, and he and NPR has to get some digs in on Trump, and he backs him off pretty well.

This is a pretty good back and forth.

New York's tax burden is the highest in the country.

The governor just increased state spending by double-digit billion dollars, up $100 billion in a decade.

These are unsustainable levels, and that's what the president was referencing.

Let me ask about,

forgive me, I just want to get one more thing in here.

We heard earlier today from Greg Kassar, one of your Democratic colleagues.

He's from Texas.

Yeah, Austin loser.

And he's talking about this budget bill, talking about the Medicaid cuts or savings.

And he asserts that the cuts will affect health care for real people, including in a red state like his.

Let's listen.

What they're talking about is closing rural hospitals, closing addiction treatment centers.

No, they're not.

Leaving 4 million school-aged kids without food assistance.

It's horrible, but we can still stop it.

When he says rural hospitals, I immediately think of one that I know about in upstate New York that's forever in danger of closing.

This is a constant problem across the United States.

How would you protect rural hospitals as you cut back, scale-back Medicaid, which many of them depend on?

Greg Kassar, by the way, is a massive, massive communist.

Yeah, he was obviously a communist.

And I like the way the NPR guy, the guy is talking about Hochl jacking up

the revenues for New York by $100 billion.

And he cuts him off

to throw in the communist guy, who sounds like a woman, by the way,

in terms of his pitch.

probably had a best check to me.

He led the Workers' Defense Project, the certified communist, this guy.

That was so Austin.

He was on the Austin City Council.

Worst guy.

So he brings all this stuff in because it's got a lot of anti-Trump messaging.

And the New York guy bounced it off pretty nicely.

He did.

He did.

Here he comes.

Here's where he really does it.

The focus of the reforms in the bill

is to slow the rate of growth and make sure that those who are not eligible do not receive benefits, i.e., illegal immigrants,

people who are no longer eligible should not remain on the program for up to a year, which is what the Biden administration allowed,

as well as work requirements for able-bodied adults.

When it comes to food assistance, it's a cost share.

It is having the states have some skin in the game

in starting with a 5% share.

Right now, they pay 0% share for the cost.

So this is about slowing the rate of growth.

Medicaid is going to expand by 24%

over the 10-year window of this bill.

So it is not a major cut, but in fact, slowing the rate of growth.

Congressman Mike Lawler, Republican of New York, always a pleasure talking with you.

Thank you so much.

Thank you.

Yeah, that's the lie about the, oh, they're going to cut your Medicare.

You're going to cut this, cut that.

That's not true.

They're going to make you actually go look for a job.

Well, not only that, but they're not cutting it.

They're cutting the growth.

Yes, which has been growing.

It's grown 100% in like five years or so.

I think it's because of fraud.

If they put some police on the job, in other words, you put an enforcement agency together

and then pack it on to the operation and have with some teeth.

Billy clubs go in there and wrap some knuckles, knock on some doors.

Hey, hey, walk across the room.

You got no problem.

You can walk on those stumps.

And

if you do some enforcement, you would have less fraud, and then you would save a lot of money.

But the fraud is a pain in the ass to put together an agency or an enforcement division.

And, you know, maybe they should get rid of those ads for those phony, baloney phones that, you know, oh, it will cost you nothing where you have

an anonymous Indian transcribing the call in the background.

Those phones.

Yeah, those phones.

Get rid of all that nonsense, the back braces, all these things.

Oh, it'll cost you nothing.

All

versions of those

calls every so often from one of these operations.

You can get a free this or a free that, just sign up.

A free walking stick, a freeze, a free

rule.

A free shaley.

A shillale.

What's

a shalely?

No, what's a shale?

Maybe I do.

What's a shale?

I've heard the word.

What's a shillale?

It's like a big stick that the Irish walk around with.

Ah, shalely.

Ah.

I claim basket, the shillale.

You could get one of those scooters.

One of those.

Yeah.

Drive around a Walmart.

I'm on a hill.

That'd be really funny to watch.

Next time you're in Walmart, just get on one of those and take a picture.

That'd be hilarious.

One of those electric scooters.

What are they called?

I don't know.

They're called electric scooters.

I got Medicaid.

Talk about Medicaid cuts.

I got Medicaid cuts.

Yeah, it'd be like, you don't need Medicaid.

You're a podcaster.

What's your problem?

Two clips.

Oh, hold on a second.

Medicaid, Medicaid, Medicaid.

Medicaid cuts.

I'm looking under M.

Medicaid cuts.

I'm looking under M.

I don't see anything with Medicaid.

There's like Medicaid 2, there's Medicaid Cuts, NTD, and there's Medical

News.

I'm telling you, I do not have these.

What is going on?

There's M's.

There's M's.

No, I'm looking at the M's.

Were these your bonus clips?

Did I put them in the wrong?

No, these are the Monica.

Okay, I have Magna Carta, Magna Carta Tale, Malema, Malema, Malema, Qatar.

I don't have Medicare

under the M.

I don't.

Well, then it got misorganized because it was sent with the rest of them.

It wasn't sent separately.

I'm just telling you.

You have Nintendo Gripe?

Nope.

Did you send one batch or two batches?

Oh, wait.

Hold on.

Oh, oh, okay.

I love it how you blame me.

God blame you.

It's your fault.

Blame it on the podcaster.

No, I don't have these podcasts.

You'd have to go to the...

Never mind.

Never mind.

Well, you want to send them to me real quick?

I'll be happy to add them in.

No, forget.

I got better material with the Doge attack.

Okay, well, first, let me talk about a different attack because this was completely predictable.

Knew it was going to happen.

No surprise.

The Jew hate has reached its epic

level.

That's a good story.

Well, it's not a good story.

It's a very bad story.

Overnight, police in Washington, D.C.

investigating the deadly shooting of two Israeli embassy staff members.

Authorities say the man and woman were shot at close range as they were leaving the Capitol Jewish Museum.

Prior to the shooting, the suspect was observed pacing back and forth outside of the museum.

He approached a group of four people, produced a handgun, and opened fire, striking both of our decedents.

After the shooting, the suspect then entered the museum and was detained by event security.

After the shooting, a man in custody inside the museum was heard chanting support of Palestinians.

Free, free Palestine!

He implied that he committed the offense.

The suspect chanted, free, free Palestine while in custody.

One witness says she gave the man water, unaware of what had unfolded.

We offered him water and he was like, yeah, that'll be great, actually.

That's when he reaches into his backpack and pulls out a kafia and says, I did it.

I did this for Gaza.

The The shooting suspect identified as 30-year-old Elias Rodriguez of Chicago.

Police say they had no prior interactions with him.

The American Jewish Committee was hosting an event at the museum celebrating Jewish heritage at the time of the shooting.

Secretary of State Marco Rubio saying this was a brazen act of cowardly anti-Semitic violence.

Israel's ambassador to the UN calling it, quote, a depraved act of anti-Semitic terrorism, saying the young embassy staffers killed were a couple who were planning to get married.

There you go.

It completely.

And what brought that on, you think?

Media pushing the Palestine protest.

Yep.

Colleges pushing Palestine, Palestine, Palestine,

South Africa.

Yep.

But, you know, next time it'll be a right-winger.

It's just going to keep on happening.

And

I know a lot of Jewish people.

They're very worried.

They're like, oh, this is no good.

It is no good.

You can't go shooting people like that just because of some political purpose for political purposes.

Because

you, an American living in Chicago, want to free Palestine?

What do you guys think?

It's ideological at this point.

It's not ideological.

It's ideological.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So, all right.

Well, there you go.

That's not good news.

I don't know why you said it was good, a good story.

It's a good story.

It's not a good story.

It's a horrible story.

That's not good news.

But that does bring us to ideologies.

I did pick up, I did listen to a Financial Times podcast that had Steve Bannon.

Bannon back on the beat.

Do I have this clip?

Yeah, it's called Bannon.

It's one of the bonus clips.

Yes, I have Bannon.

I have Bannon.

You ready?

This is interesting.

This is about the Pope.

I recommended.

I'm sorry.

Was that a cute?

I'm sorry.

Just play.

I'm sorry.

I recommended.

By the way, just so you know, there are already trolls who are saying was fake.

Wasn't a a fake, it was a fake shooting, wasn't real, wasn't real.

Yeah, the trolls are trolls.

Yeah.

I recommend you.

He come back strong in that.

And Bergoglia the entire time has been variantly anti-Trump, but that's not the

anti-MAGRA anti-Trump.

Stop it.

He keeps referring to the previous Pope Francis as Bergoglia, which is real name.

I recommend it.

And he also refers to the new Pope by his former name, too.

Okay, Lou.

I recommended.

He come back strong in that.

And Bergoglia, the entire time, has been variantly variantly anti-Trump, but that's not the, it's not just being anti-maga, anti-Trump, that's the politics of it, right?

And Prevost is a continuation.

But it is for the traditional Catholics in the crowd, the Latin Mass Catholics, the pre-Vatican II Catholics, we're close to a schism in the church between Bergoglia in this kind of radical way he's taking it and Prevost.

What my research found, we have lots of contacts in the Curia, we have lots of contacts in the Vatican.

You know, I've spent a lot of time in Italy.

We had a monastery that we actually owned before the government took it away from us to be kind of a counter to what was going on in the Vatican.

So we have a broad network of the traditionalists.

And Prevost, and I'm saying this, the conclave for the Pope was more rigged than the 2020 election.

Why do I say, let me back it up with some facts.

On Piers Morgan's show, 10 days before the conclave started, I called.

I said, Prevost is the dark horse.

He wasn't wasn't in any betting pool.

If you look at Italian TV, nowhere.

The reason is, is not only is the.

Okay, I just got to stop for a second.

He didn't call it.

He mentioned a couple of names, and he said there were several dark horses.

He did not call it.

I'm just saying that because I got it wrong, but I got it right once before.

He didn't call anything.

Let me back it up with some facts.

On Piers Morgan's show, 10 days before the conclave started, I called.

I said, Prevost is the dark horse.

He wasn't in any betting pool.

If you look at Italian TV nowhere the reason is is not only is the

he's only been a cardinal less than two years he was the perfect acolyte for Bergoglia to continue his thing the front page of the New York Times says that today if you read the whole huge front page story more importantly because of our efforts and other because the traditional church in America is on fire with vocations and young people and vibrancy and urgency that we help cut off the money going to the Vatican and so the Vatican the Wall Street Journal had a huge article this week that showed the Vatican has tons of assets, but they're illiquid.

They need the American cash.

They would never put a traditional American in that role because they think the American church has too much power.

Prevost, what is going to be the contact for the big American donors?

No, I think he's right.

I think he nails it with that.

I don't know how a private election can be rigged.

I don't know about that.

Well, I like the way he put it.

Yeah.

Well, speaking of rigged elections, let's go check out Romania.

Having conceded defeat on Sunday night, George Simeon, following pressure from his supporters on TikTok, will now sue to get the presidential election results cancelled, citing interference by France.

International observers

saw interference not only from the Republic of Moldova,

but also from the French state.

Social media was manipulated and algorithms were used

to influence Romanian citizens.

The pro-Russia candidate was relaying accusations by Pavel Durov, co-founder of Telegram, who has said he's willing to testify.

Durov took to the social media platform X on Sunday to directly accuse French intelligence services.

This spring at the Salon de Bataille in the Hotel de Crion, Nicolas Lerner, head of French intelligence, asked me to ban conservative voices in Romania ahead of elections.

I refused.

We didn't block protesters in Russia, Belarus, or Iran.

We won't start doing it in Europe.

Allegations which French intelligence, which has admitted meeting Durov on several occasions, took the unusual step of denying.

The Directorate General for External Security strongly refutes allegations that it made any requests for accounts in relation to any electoral process to be banned.

I totally believe they did that.

Unbelievable.

Yeah, well, that guy even said before, he said, France is meddling here.

He said it the first three times they voted.

He said, France is meddling.

They keep voting and keep voting until they get the right guy in

the EU.

Well, it's pretty much the same people, the same people running the show.

Yeah,

it's great.

It's great.

Look at the world around you, man.

It's great.

We're podcasting.

Everybody's happy.

Except Joe.

That daddy longlegs.

He's hiding out somewhere.

Daddy Longlegs thing, since you brought it up, has just been bugging me now.

Yeah, it's very annoying.

Because they have these two jokers, especially Tapper, has been on show after show after show after show.

And not one reporter has even broached the topic of a fake.

Because if they broach that topic and the mask story comes out, well, then no one will believe anything again.

Everybody will be a dude.

What you're saying is a gentleman's agreement with the intelligence agency.

I think so.

Well, we know that.

Shut up.

We know that Tapper is at the birthday parties.

We had one of our producers cater the deputy CIA director's birthday party, and Tapper was there hanging out, not reporting.

Oh, I think, yeah, a gentleman's agreement, which is like, hey, Jake, look at this picture.

Get that in your mouth.

Hey, with that, I want to thank you for your courage.

Saying the morning to you, the man who put the C in the Cali commie.

Say hello to my friend on the other end, the one, the only, Mr.

John C.

DeVore.

In the morning to you, Mr.

Adam Curry, in the morning to all the ships of sea, boots on the ground, feeding the air, subs in the water, and all the dames and nights out there.

Say in the morning to the trolls, the control room, let me count you.

Come on, here we go.

Counting it up.

1874.

Well, that's not too bad.

This is Memorial Day weekend, right?

Isn't this a long weekend?

Today's Thursday.

That's what I mean.

Everyone's taking the Thursday and Friday off.

They're already on vacation.

No one's working.

Smart money.

Smart money.

Not podcasters.

No, no, no.

Smart money.

Those trolls are in the troll room.

You can find them at trollroom.io, and many of them may be listening to the live stream on a modern podcast app, which you definitely want to try by going to podcastapps, apps.com,

because you'll never find a show being deplatformed from there because it is all connected to the podcast index, which I personally make sure does not de-platform or remove anybody or anything.

And just to prove my point, Brennan sent me an email

Monday.

He says, Pandora disappointed me this morning.

I went like I do every Monday to listen to Sunday show, and none of the shows are on there at all.

I'm not sure if they cut the cord, but I figured you should know.

Like, Brennan,

how many times do I have to tell you?

Get a modern podcast, that Pandora.

Pandora.

Are they still in business?

Yeah, I think they're public.

Yeah, public company.

So, no, get a modern podcast app.

Support independent developers.

Don't kowtow to big tech.

Don't kowtow to big tech.

That should be the motto of the show.

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, I don't.

I don't.

You don't use a phone.

You don't even have a.

But if you had one, it would be one of those nice Samsung flip phones.

We all know that.

Oh, those Samsung flip phones are unbelievable.

Yeah, they are.

Stop.

Stop texting me, people.

Texting me on my light phone.

Yes, so that's the trolls.

And then, of course, we want to make note of the fact that when we do this show, you notice no commercials.

Did you notice that?

No commercials, no pre-rolls.

We're not talking about something and talking about the Pope.

And then all of a sudden, gold.

Yeah, you can get gold for your IRA.

Get these gold coins, these gold coins.

That's you're only going to pay 50% above spot price of gold, but hey, they're limited edition.

Get them out while stocks last.

We'll help you roll over your IRA, old person.

You know, I've been wanting to put a series of clips together of the segues

that these, you know, like Mark Levan, for example.

He'll be talking about something very serious and segue right into a gold plug.

Bill O'Reilly is the worst.

So So he has the Bill O'Reilly morning update.

And so he has another guy.

So he says, there's the Bill O'Reilly update from Monday.

Here's Chip and Chip will tell you what's going on.

So Bill O'Reilly's not there.

Chip does the news.

And now an important, and now we'll be right back after Bill talks to you.

And then O'Reilly comes in and says,

Troubling times right now.

We know what's going to happen with the tariffs, with the economy.

That's why I trust gold.

And he does it like a news story.

It's like a news story.

It's like a native ad, and he just slips it right in.

And what happens is you wind up buying specialty gold coins, which are limited by the people selling you the gold coins because they mint them.

Now, they do that through Australia so they don't get in trouble for this obvious.

I'm just going to call it a scam.

I mean, I'm not an expert, but that's my opinion.

And so you're paying, you know, 25% above the price of the actual gold contained in the coin.

And I think the podcaster gets, you know, 5% or something.

It's like, there's so much money going around this market.

It's got to be good money.

We are stupid.

Well,

we're not stupid.

We're, well, no, we're not.

We're honest.

I, for example, when I was in high school, used to be known as Honest John.

Exactly.

And why was that in high school specifically?

Because that's where I can start to remember things.

Okay.

That's pretty funny.

No, so we don't do that.

There's no levels, no hoops to jump through.

We just give you a little bit of a...

You know,

if you want to buy premium gold,

collect classic Americana gold, real Liberty coins, the ones America minted back in the 1800s.

They're around.

Yeah.

And find a reputable dealer who'll sell them to you

at the market price of what these collectible coins are worth.

You have the gold and you have a collectible item that's not going to be a good thing.

But because it's collectible, you're paying above the actual price.

No, you are.

But if you're going to pay, I'm just saying, if you're going to pay above

gold price.

But this is being sold.

You can just buy gold if you want to.

Buy a bar.

Buy a bar of gold, exactly.

But this is being sold to people who have no

domestic value.

I'm not recommending people buy buy a bar of gold because the only guy I know that ever bought a bar of gold ended up losing it in some divorce settlement.

And I bought it at the time, $750 an ounce.

It's tripled.

More than that.

It's quadrupled.

Yeah.

Oh, man.

And don't worry.

The person who got it squandered it right away.

Anyway,

one of the many ways that you can

support us for the work that we do is, well, there's three ways, actually, time, talent, and treasure.

And we always love the treasure.

We do need the treasure.

However, doing stuff for the show is also important.

So when someone

does a boots on the ground, hitting people in the mouth, calling out people as douchebags for not donating, all these things are of high importance.

But we also have the artists, and the artists sometimes prompt jockeys.

But again,

I've made it, I have a statement about AI.

Uh-oh.

Yeah, I have a statement about it.

Is it something you read?

Is it on a piece of paper?

No, it's not on a piece of paper.

So I've been vibe coding, and I finally got my project done.

Spent about 250 hours.

Any competent coder could have done this in 10.

And it's true.

And the worst is like the AI will take you down a rabbit hole

and will not, it doesn't remember.

It has no common sense.

It makes mistakes that if you don't catch them, if you're not reading what, if you're just like, fix this, fix this, fix this, it winds up ruining everything.

You better have backup copies, otherwise you have to go say, no, this worked.

And now you broke it.

So

you need AI to use AI.

In order to use artificial intelligence, you need almighty intelligence.

That is my statement.

And if you got that like digital

2112 man, then you can come up with something decent.

But it's not just going to do it by itself for yourself.

Not a single AI will create an image or code or marketing document or

resume or anything.

If you don't know what you're doing, it's not going to do a good job.

And that's what everyone says.

And it will be immediately.

That's why the artists that do the best AI art are artists.

Are artists.

Exactly.

Like Darren O'Neal, the

True artist.

He's been using his easel and oils ever since he was a child.

Digital 2112 Man brought us the artwork for episode 1765.

We titled that Pro-Mortalist.

And this is Adam and John at the climate desk.

And we look very happy about it.

Yes, we do.

Which I wasn't crazy about it.

I mean, considering.

No, you didn't like the piece, really.

I'm the one who put, I would take full credit for promoting this piece.

And the reason I use the rationale is where we were sick of Darren winning all the time is one thing.

It's like, as long as it's not Darren.

That was that.

You did say that.

I think actually,

by the way, still

on the all-time leaderboard, he still is.

He's moving up, but he's not crazy.

He's crazy.

He's crazy, I will.

I just like the composition of the piece.

I thought it was pretty.

It was joyful.

It had a, which is important.

Yes.

It was, it just was cute.

It was a cute piece.

I really like this piece.

I personally like the beach walk, which was no agenda in shells on the beach.

Of course, that totally was a callback to Comey.

Comey.

Comey.

And you said it was too small and didn't.

Well, that's because here's why.

I saw that piece.

I thought, I was, oh, that's kind of a cute piece.

I didn't notice it was shells, which because it wasn't obvious because you had to blow it up to say, oh, shells.

Oh,

I didn't get the joke until you actually explained it.

Because it was too small.

The shells are too small.

The joke is lost because of the sizing thing.

The good news is, because of this discussion, I can play the donation bonus clip.

How about that?

I'm all in.

This is Comey on the with Colbert on the what is the show?

The Colbert show?

The Colbert.

Yeah, Colbert this evening something show.

To him running, Colbert running cover for Comey.

This is so, this is

Colbert is pathetic.

56 seconds of lies.

What happened?

You were walking on the beach and you saw this on the beach?

Yeah, my wife and I, Patrice, were walking on the beach and saw those numbers in shells on the beach.

You didn't do this.

Somebody else did this.

Yeah, somebody else did it.

We were on a walk preparing for this week to roll out of my book.

She looked at it and said, why'd someone someone put their address in the sand?

All right.

And then we stood at it, trying to figure it, looked at it, trying to figure out what it was.

And she'd long been a server in restaurants.

And she said, you know what I think it is?

I think it's a reference to restaurants when you would 86 something in a restaurant

off the menu.

Yeah.

I said, no, I remember I was a kid, you'd say 86 to get out of a place.

This place stinks, let's 86 it.

I was a bartender.

You would 86 a customer if they were getting drunk.

Like, let's 86 them.

Like, give them a low-proof alcohol or something like that.

And so I said, I think it's a clever political message.

And she said, you should take a picture of it.

I said, sure.

And then she said, you should Instagram that.

And boom.

Well,

and boom.

I'm all on all the shows to promote my stupid book.

He always gets the book mentioned in early.

But the thing is,

I forgot one of the shows I heard this, that they researched his wife, and she's never worked in a restaurant.

It's bullcrap.

Well, he blamed his wife, which is low.

Oh, my wife told me to do it.

Yeah, my wife.

It's kind like low i agree with no

wife

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All right, happy to do that.

You've been deduced.

Love the show.

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And he wants a jobs karma.

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I heard Adam say on a recent podcast that food items from non-commercial entities are discarded.

I didn't say exactly that.

I said I don't eat brownies that people send me.

Let me know if you want.

I will send you some salsa from my garden.

Hardball at AOL.

Hey, hardball.

So I'd try some salsa from his garden.

Would you try the salsa from his garden?

You can't grow salsa.

Well,

it's from his garden.

Here's your jobs, Karma.

Jobs,

jobs, and jobs.

Let's vote for jobs.

Youth jobs.

I'm sure he grows the ingredients in his garden, and that's what he's referring to.

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Sir Jan, Jan.

Sir Jan.

Sir Jan.

So Jan in Amsterdam, Holland, 333.33.

Keep up with the good work, he writes.

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I don't want to get us a free room.

He actually, he has offered me that.

He has offered me a free room several times.

What does he own?

A hotel or a big house or a bread and butter?

Small hotel.

Small hotel.

That's perfect.

Boutique hotel in the center of Amsterdam.

Over by the old town?

Literally in the center where the dam is.

So in the center.

I think that's who it is.

I'm pretty sure.

And

333.

I now have his email.

Yeah, you do.

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John, sports ball sweatshirts are another form of shitcoin.

You should be asking for a Bitcoin merch from the upcoming conference in Vegas next week.

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Sir Pliny?

Pliny.

Sir Pliny?

Pliny.

Why is it Pliny?

It goes back to Pliny the Elder and Pliny the Younger.

Sir Pliny the hodler.

Nothing for me at the roundtable so Adam can save money to stock more sats.

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Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.

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You thought come up.

Well,

I have all the luck with the notes today.

Circumcision from Blaine Washington sends us $200, Associate Executive Producer, and he has a very long note, which I'm going to have to

edit on the fly.

But he says, ITM gents, John, you mentioned the Kilpatrick's bread bakery in San Francisco in your Bill Maher segment a few shows ago about how fast food corporations don't change their winning recipes.

You made a couple of comments.

First, dismissing Maher's inept observation that recipes don't change, then a seg into the early air bread craze of the 60s and how the McDonald's buns made the Kilpatrick Bakery, made at the Kilpatrick Bakery, would get score marks to make them look risen.

Your trip down memory laying in the Kilpatrick bread bakery jarred some ancient memory in my head.

It's a long memory.

At the risk of sounding like a boomer, you're there.

This is a boomer note.

I had indeed toured the Kilpatrick's factory with my folks as some sort of get the kids out of the house and try to make it educational day, probably 70 or 71.

I distinctly remember getting the paper Kilpatrick Bakery hat like the workers wore at the end of the tour and a loaf of magical Kilpatrick airbread puffy and vacuous as God intended.

It is said the Kilpatrick aficionados would deride wonder bread as inedible, brushing it off as an inferior product.

And then he talks about how he was slipping back in time.

He could smell it.

He was anyway, he says, thank you for taking me back to those halcyon days of the late 60s, early 70s of the SF Bay area.

It's a crap hole, nothing like it used to be then.

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Circumcision of the 10% off night of the fourth corner in Blaine, Washington.

That's a very, that's a nice note.

I like that he traveled back in time.

That's what the power of the podcast is.

If you're not watching some dudes on YouTube, Bayotina said that the other night she couldn't sleep, she was on the couch.

She's like, I'm going to listen to some scripture.

And she made the mistake of listening to it on YouTube.

It was like Mark 4 or something all of a sudden.

Gold, gold.

You need to buy some gold right in the middle of it.

Right in the middle of it.

It's like, you made a mistake.

You made a mistake doing that.

By the way, in the business, it was called balloon bread.

Balloon bread.

Oh, okay.

Just to get that straight.

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is this our final associate executive producer?

Yes, it is, Joseph Dorfel, Smyrna, Tennessee.

Ah, we know Joseph Dorfel from the Dorfels.

A very famous family.

Adam and John, thank you for your courage.

I've been an avid listener of the show for the last two years, slovenly absorbing the exquisite decadence known as your premium content.

The last three shows have pushed me over the mountain of douchebaggery, and I've started my journey towards knighthood.

As a seasoned veteran of the Amazon slave gang, I have seen firsthand the infiltration of DEI and the tightening noose of the economy as my generation falls ever deeper into the abyss of sheepdum.

D-U-M-B.

Alas, I've been slowly and steadily hitting others like me in the mouth, striving to grow the movement to end the sad puppy.

Adam, I listened to Curry and the Keeper and hate to correct you, but I am in fact one of the Dorfel band members.

I knew that.

I humbly request Baby Making Karma F-35 Scream, and he also wants some chemtrails for his jingles.

Hold on a second.

I've been trying to avoid the chemtrails because they've been bad here the

past few weeks.

So we will give all of that to you here in

this little compilation.

Chemtrails!

I said, What in the world is this?

You've got

Karma.

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My formula is this:

we go out, we hit people in the mouth.

I said, what in the world is this?

There you go.

Talking about the idea of, let me show you a picture.

No, look at this picture.

Yes, look at this picture.

Look at this picture.

Look at this picture.

I want to play Dan Bongino

in 2022.

Dan Bongino 2022.

Do you need a harp to go back in time?

You could do that.

I think the harp would actually be a nice touch.

here we go going back in time dam bongino 2022 listen um that jeffrey epstein story is a big deal please do not let that story go keep your eye on this catherine rummler i want you we need to keep the heat on this case folks There are a lot of people who are knee-deep in the Washington swamp who are not telling you the truth about

serious allegations out there that Epstein may have had video and audio of people out there doing things they they shouldn't have been doing.

And you should be asking yourself the question: how is it that all these people, the CIA director, the Obama fixer, Bill Clinton, all intersected past with Jeffrey Epstein?

Jeffrey Epstein isn't with us anymore, and nobody seems to want to talk about it outside of a few entrepreneurial media outlets saying, hey, this is a big deal.

And we come back.

Wow, Dan Bongino pretty hot there about who killed Epstein.

We had songs, we had jokes, we had t-shirts.

Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself.

Everybody was saying it.

Now, here's Dan Bongino last week.

He killed himself.

Again, you want me to get?

I've seen the whole file.

He killed himself.

What's interesting about this is this is such a distraction.

Who cares?

Show me the tapes.

Show me what happened.

Show me the client.

Show me anything.

Now everyone's running around like, oh, can't trust him.

Oh, shills.

Everything's a shit.

Probably Trump.

Trump's

Show me the daddy long legs with the mask.

It's all fake.

What do the kids say?

Fake and gay.

G-E-A-G-E-Y-H.

Fake and gay.

Yeah.

So NFR did a thing.

They attacked Doge.

Oh, no.

A Doge attack.

Doge attack.

I got a two-parter.

Okay.

I guess the first parter is faux attack.

What?

The first part of the two-parter is faux attack.

I thought I corrected that before I shipped it in.

Yeah, you sent it with

those other clips.

It never

you have two shipments, man.

I don't know who got the other one, but it wouldn't me.

We report on the broad reach of a government effort set up by Elon Musk.

The ad hoc Department of Government Efficiency keeps finding new parts of the federal government to try to shrink.

Hold on.

Ad hoc is a lie.

It's a digital services department, isn't it?

That's not ad hoc.

I think pretty much.

Yeah, that's a lie.

No, ad hoc makes it.

You made it up as you're going, oh, let's just put a come on, kids, let's do a show.

We report on the broad reach of a government effort set up by Elon Musk.

The ad hoc Department of Government Efficiency keeps finding new parts of the federal government to try to shrink.

A new analysis by NPR found at least 40 agencies and groups that Doge has tried to cut in recent weeks.

NPR Stephen Fowler is covering all of this and is online.

Hi there, Stephen.

Good morning.

So who's getting a knock on the door here?

Well, the knock is often an email from one of a few Doge staffers based in the General Services Administration.

They're seeking to learn more about operations and to embed a team within the organization.

Now, some of them have already been effectively dismantled by Doge, like the Millennium Challenge Corporation.

Some of them have been targeted for elimination by the president in his proposal for next year's budget, like AmeriCorps.

The outreach has been to this constellation of commissions, boards, and entities that are all small and independent.

Well, how have some of these dozens of entities responded?

After the email, in many of these places, Doge has moved quickly.

At the Advisory Council on Historic Preservation, for example, in less than one week, an email led to a video call, led to an in-person meeting, and now a Doge team is being onboarded.

On April 17th alone, Doge staffers scheduled meetings with officials from the Truman Scholarship Foundation, the Denali Commission, the Office of Navajo and Hopi Indian Relocation, and the U.S.

Access Board.

And that's according to two sources not authorized to speak about Doge's operations.

I guess we should mention different laws apply to different organizations, which themselves are organized differently.

Could they just say no thanks to Doge's requests?

Some of them already have because these Doge folks have also tried to reach out to organizations that aren't government agencies at all, like the private nonprofit Vera Institute of Justice, the Independent Nonprofit Corporation for Public Broadcasting, and the Government Accountability Office, which is part of the legislative branch.

Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba-ba.

What did I learn here?

You learned that they don't care.

No.

It's like what you learned is nobody cares.

They're mocking this basically.

Nobody wants to do anything about all this government waste, but they bitch and moan about the ridiculous

deficit that we have.

Yes, yes.

But okay, let's play part two.

How legal is any of this?

There are more than a dozen lawsuits that have been filed related to Doge efforts at these small organizations that say it's not legal.

By and large, these are places that have been created by Congress, many of them nonprofits, and nearly all of them do have their funding and functions spelled out by law, and some of those cases explicitly limiting the president's power to interact with them.

That means President Trump can't always go in and fire people and make changes on his own.

In the last week, a a judge ordered a halt to Doge-related shutdowns at the Institute of Museum and Library Services, the Federal Mediation and Conciliation Service, and the Minority Business Development Agency.

And this week, a different federal judge found Doge's takeover of the U.S.

Institute of Peace was illegal.

Stephen, what does all of this add to your understanding of what Doge is doing?

Well, President Trump has a very clear mission of what a government remade in his image looks like.

It's smaller, there's less bureaucracy, and those people and institutions who are left answer directly to him and his viewpoints.

Calling him God there with a made in his image.

Yeah, this was the point.

Oh, they want to make it in his image, and they want loyalists.

I mean, it's like you're the president, you've been elected thus, and then you expect what?

And you expect people to pay any attention?

You want people to go along with your program?

No, we don't want that.

We want independence.

We want to do what we want to do.

We don't, the president doesn't matter.

This is ridiculous.

They don't support any of it.

Let's do a little technique.

The media does not support anything positive.

No.

Well, we're not supporting them.

We're moving to podcasts.

Let me see.

Sam Altman,

OpenAI, has bought Johnny Ives AI company

for $6.5 billion.

Nice work if you can get it.

That's pretty nice.

My favorite artificial intelligence story.

Well, I have two actually.

My favorite was

the

AI-generated summer reading list.

Did you catch this story?

No, I didn't, but it already sounds good.

Some newspapers around the country, including Chicago Sun-Times and at least one edition of the Philadelphia Inquirer, have published a syndicated summer book reading list that includes made-up books by famous authors.

That's the great thing about AI.

Yeah.

If it can do art, it's making stuff up.

It's making it up.

The list has no byline, but writer Marco Biscaglia has claimed responsibility for it.

Says it was partially generated by artificial intelligence.

In an email to NPR, Biscoglia writes, huge mistake on my part has nothing to do with my bad.

Huge mistake on my part has nothing to do with the Sun-Times.

They trust that the content content they purchase is accurate, and I betrayed that trust.

It's on me 100%.

There it is.

There it is.

We just talked about it.

When you say 100%,

bull crap.

Unbelievable.

Let's see.

Were there any do we have any of these fun books that they had?

Let me see.

Yeah, you have to have the list.

Yeah, I have the list here.

Let me see.

But these are authors I don't know.

Yeah, well, because probably half of them are made up.

Well, Dandelion Wine by Ray Bradbury.

Is that a real book?

I don't know.

Well, I know Ray Bradbury.

Yeah, he's real.

He's real.

He's dead, unfortunately.

Well, he has a new book.

You booked a breakfast with him once.

With Ray Bradbury.

Wasn't he a science fiction guy?

Wasn't he a...

Yeah, he is a great guy.

He gave a speech in Napa at some event I was attending, and he's a great public speaker.

And he has a certain kind of style that is very easy to take,

and it's easy to copy.

And I had breakfast with him the next day and yaked about what I yak about.

And he's just a charming guy, nice guy.

Oh, nice.

And he gave me a book, autographed it up.

I have a tip for DH Unplugged, which you can hear on Tuesdays, live on Tuesdays,

and listen to the podcast on Wednesday.

Yeah, 6 o'clock Eastern.

Yes, that's 600.

No, no.

No, 8 o'clock.

8 o'clock Eastern, isn't it?

What, 6?

No, I think it's 9 o'clock Eastern.

9 o'clock Eastern.

It's like Pacific.

Yeah.

With that Horowitz guy.

Yeah, the guy is hitting on your wife.

Here's my tip.

I would say a long-term short on

Alphabet.

They have finally done the worst thing they could possibly do to their core business.

by saying they are rolling out a new search feature for US users called AI mode.

It's basically a new tab within Google search engine that users can activate and which answers questions in the conversational style of an AI chatbot and does not include a list of blue links like we've been accustomed to for so long.

The new feature will be powered by the AI model that Google has developed itself called Gemini.

Take a listen to Google's CEO, Sundar Pichai.

It's a total reimagining of search.

Total reasoning.

With more advanced reasoning, you can ask AI mode longer and more complex queries like this.

In fact, users have been asking much longer queries, two to three times the length of traditional searches.

And you can go further with follow-up questions.

All of this is available today as a new tab right in search.

This is the dumbest thing they could do.

We don't make stock tips.

That was dad a real tip that you gave.

No, that was just me.

Just

joking around.

Yeah, I'm just joking around.

Don't don't.

And by the way, most people are buying heavily into Google for some reason.

Yeah, well, I just think.

So you probably eat it if you follow your advice.

Knowing that.

No, I'm just looking at what it costs.

I mean, it's seven times the cost to perform an AI search.

There's no links.

So they ruin the whole concept of SEO.

No, they're, they're, I don't know what to do.

It makes no sense to me.

unless unless they start charging for it they're

they're gonna have to dream up some way of making money off this thing.

I don't know how they're gonna do it well

right now and of course some of this obviosity of his commentary which included oh they're asking really long structured questions.

Yes, if you're asking if you're working with AI you ask long structured questions

because that's what the AI is expected to hear.

And the funny thing is,

during the very early days of Google, before they got

their act together in the 90s, the late 90s, when I had Sergey Brin used to come on.

Was that the late 90s when they got their act together?

Feels like it was.

Yeah, I think

it was that.

It was the late 90s they got their act together.

And people were still using Yahoo until about for most of the 90s.

And because I always asked everybody about it.

They said, what are you using Google?

Sergey Bren used to say, you should write a complicated question as your search criteria.

Yeah.

Well, try that.

I think it's dumb.

I think it's dumb.

You're going to get a lot of stories.

Google told me to do this.

Google did this.

Google did that.

It's a PR nightmare, I tell you.

Well, it's going to be for them because they always have inferior technology at some level when it comes to AI.

You can tell by their AI art.

Were they

American Revolutionists, all blacks?

Blacks, yeah.

Did you see the videos from that producer who sent it to us about the guy?

I think he's in Canada, and he has the free zero-point energy machine made of magnets.

It's amazing.

So he shows this machine, and he has like.

Did we talk about this in the last show?

Yeah, someone donated and told us to look out for this.

So the guy has this machine as two gears on one side.

He has a piece of wood stuck in.

He pulls the wood out and the thing just starts going and going and going.

He puts the wood back in and it stops.

And then he dismantles the machine on video right before you to show there's no wires.

There's no wires.

It's all just

magnetic energy.

It's really fast.

I love this stuff.

It's very fascinating.

And then, by coincidence, if there's such a thing,

this video, this new story pops up.

I think that they're trying to get rid of magnets altogether.

New attendees, despite more safety rules, kids around the world continue swallowing magnets.

And the United States hops the list for the most incidents.

A new study was published yesterday in the medical journal BMJ Injury Prevention.

It found the U.S.

reported between 522 and 2,000 magnet ingestion cases each year since 2016.

We've been warning you about this for a long time.

Now, in 2016, a ban on high-powered magnet sets was overturned.

But in 2022, the Consumer Product Safety Commission set strict rules on the size and strength of loose magnets that could fit in a child's airway.

Experts say the new studies suggest the safer regulations may not go far enough.

Here's a tip.

Kids, stop eating magnets.

That's a tip.

All right, five-minute warning, John.

You're up.

You can play your last clips.

What's my last clip?

I don't know.

What do you got?

I'm I'm sure.

Well, like you played the dumb clips.

This is a clip which just encourages archivists and hoarders

to be on the lookout.

And this also tells me that Harvard is either the luckiest group or they're dumb because it took them this long to figure out what was going on.

This is the Magna Carta clips.

Oh, yeah, this was an interesting story.

In 1946, Harvard University purchased what it thought was just a very old copy of the Magna Carta from a bookseller in London for $27.50.

Now, 80 years later, that document has been identified as the real deal, issued by King Edward I in the year 1300.

And P.R.

Scott Newman has the story.

The first version of the Magna Carta was produced in 1215.

It outlined the rights of free men and the limits of the English monarchy.

The Royal Charter of Liberties went through several iterations throughout the 13th century, the last in the year 1300.

Although few originals exist today, it's considered one of the most important legal documents in history.

Centuries later, that legacy resurfaced when David Carpenter was searching through the Harvard Law School Library's online archives.

The professor of medieval history at King's College London saw an item listed as a copy of the Magna Carta from 1327.

So he clicked.

And there, behold, what do I see before my eyes but what for all the world seemed to me an original of the 1300 pound to carton.

But he needed to be sure, so he enlisted Nicholas Vincent, a fellow professor of medieval history at the University of East Anglia, to help.

The two approached Harvard with their hunch and requested an ultraviolet scan to get a better look.

This is an odd story.

I don't know.

I saw it too.

I didn't.

Yeah, I just thought it was kind of fascinating, but it encourages people to

be on the lookout.

Go to more flea markets.

Jonathan.

Here we go.

Yeah.

Jonathan Zittrin is a Harvard professor who heads the law library there.

When he got the request from Carpenter and Vincent, he was intrigued but cautious.

You've got to tie together a number of threads to figure out the authenticity of something.

And it's not always that there's a Eureka moment where it's like, ah, yes.

Zittrin says that without help from the UK scholars, Harvard may never have known what a great deal they struck all those years ago to own a treasure of world history.

And of course, it makes you wonder,

gosh, what else do we have between the couch cushions?

No one knows exactly what Harvard's Magna Carta is worth, but in 2007, one authentic document fetched $21.3 million at auction.

Scott Newman, NPR News.

Yes, this is indeed

spurs on the archivist like yourself, which leads me to the question.

Have you ever come across a gem of a find in

your collection days?

Yeah.

Like what?

Well, I was at an auction, and I saw, and there was a,

they had it, someone was auctioning off what I looked at and saw, oh, this is a daguerreotype.

I should bid on it, and nobody's bidding on it.

I got it for a dollar.

What's a guerrotype?

A daguerreotype.

It's a type of early photo.

Oh.

But it wasn't a daguerreotype at all.

It was an Edward Curtis original

photograph on, a gold photograph on glass.

Edward Curtis would be

he's an old photographer from the 1800s, and this piece is worth it, probably was worth $10,000.

Whoa!

Whoa!

$1

into $10,000?

Yeah.

You know what that is?

That's better than Bitcoin.

Well, that's my only real deal.

I've been holding on to this thing.

I haven't gotten $10,000.

I'm sorry, I just drowned you out.

Didn't mean to do that.

Yeah, I just said, I haven't sold it, so it's still worth $10,000.

Supposedly, I mean, it might be only to get five, but whatever it was, I only paid a dollar, which is the point.

That's a groovy, man.

I'm very happy for you.

Now,

where would you go to sell that?

Another flea market?

No, no, it would go to an auction house.

It would go to Christie's.

Yeah, Christie.

They're probably calling you right now.

Hey, he's got an original.

No, you have to get it into one of the...

I've auctioned stuff off.

And to do auctions right, you have to find a thematic auction.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So you have, like, in other words, if a big

Edward Curtis auction

place where he had a lot of his stuff, so it attracts all these collectors.

That's when you get the money.

Otherwise, you could get ripped off, gypped.

Don't want that.

But I haven't cashed in.

We have some beautiful end of show mixes on the way for you.

John's tip of the day.

We have some dynamite meetup reports.

But first, John is going to thank our donors, $50 and above, who he didn't mention earlier.

Yes.

Yes.

Robert G.

MacArthur starts this off.

He's in Monmouth, Oregon, 150.

He says, he says something he falls asleep to the podcast, it sounds like.

Anyway,

Nathan Cochran in Franklin, Tennessee, a famous place for you.

That's one of our Mercy Me boys.

He's a Mercy Me guy.

Yeah.

One, two, three, four, five, and a good supporter, by the way.

Yeah, he is.

Good guys.

Whatever happened to our guys from Weezer?

I don't know.

You know, one of the band members' wife was arrested during a shooting.

Yes, I saw that.

Well, not that she had anything to do with it, but

she went out with a gun.

She went out with a gun.

She went out with a gun.

What would you say with her doing out here?

Yeah.

I don't know.

I haven't heard much from

the drummer, drummer from

Thomas Koenig in S.

Dorf,

Deutschland.

111.11.

Nice.

Doug Andrews in Sykesville, Maryland, 10101.

Timothy

Bajork

in Rollins, Wyoming, 100.

Ian Field, Parts Unknown, 100.

Sir, Hold My Beer beer in Austin, Texas.

You probably know him.

100.

Gabriel I.

Shelton in Pensacola, Florida, 100.

Sir Darth Penguin.

That's a great good name.

I like that name.

Darth Penguin in Streamwood, Illinois, 8438.

It's a boob donation, actually.

The switcheroo for my good friend Chi-Town Spook.

Who Who perhaps, when not in CONUS, doing spook things.

Hmm.

No, Chitown Spook.

Whatever.

He's probably

a lot of people that are probably in that category.

Spooks.

All spooks, man.

Spook, spook, spook.

Kevin McLaughlin, Carker, North Carolina.

There is the king of the boobs.

He is.

He's also an Archduke of Luna,

8008.

Nicholas Leary, 7272.

Dame Becky, Dame Becky in Arlington, Arlington, Washington, 6996.

Hmm.

Maria Maria.

Maria.

Maria.

Maria Wolver.

That's one way to pronounce it.

Maria.

Coming George.

There's a girl named Maria.

Maria.

Yes.

68.51 from her.

She wants some jobs, Karma.

We can do that at the end, I think, if you write it down.

Oh, also, the Walnut Grove cast gave Noah Genda a shout-out last week.

That's the Little House on the Prairie podcast.

Is that right?

Yeah, because I listened to it.

We've talked about it.

The Little House on the Prairie podcast.

Yeah, you did mention it, but what do they talk about?

The show, Little House on the Prairie, and Laura Ingalls, and the books, and everything.

Yeah, the Walnut Grove cast.

Give it a listen, people.

It's nostalgia.

It's all log rolling.

Pod rolling.

Pod rolling.

Jan Jan Murris in

Calmthout, which means calm wood.

Without

cookies in Belgium, though.

Calm wood.

He wants a dedouching.

You've been dedouched.

He got a call out to his homies, Gil and Dave Boy.

Hey, and Dave Boy.

We're all from Belgium, so we're screwed, but we know it.

Okay, Jan.

You got it.

Get the name right.

Lauren in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, 6161.

This is an Aunt Gigi donation.

I'll just have an apple in my room.

Sir, Sir Shelwood.

What happened to Rebecca?

What happened to Rebecca?

Rebecca.

Rebecca's here.

She's Rebecca Hopper.

Hooper.

Hooper in Pinehurst, North Carolina,

006, small boobs.

And she says, love you guys.

Sir Shellwood, Shelfwood, Shelfwood,

5809.

Michael

Weidinger.

Weidinger in Sumperk.

Czechoslovakia.

You see, it's Czechoslovakia, or Czech Republic, one of the two.

5798.

It's probably Czech Republic, yes.

Tony Almond in Greenville, South Carolina, 5798.

73 73s, KF4MSJ

or I, J.

No, J, 73s.

Keto 5, Alpha, Charlie, Charlie.

Kyle Frederickson in Sarasota, Florida, 5626.

I keep seeing 33s everywhere.

There you go.

Daryl Kay in Dubai.

No, wait.

He says, first time donation, please dedouch me.

You've been deduced.

And call out Joey P as a giant douchebag.

Douchebag.

Joey P.

Joey P.

Daryl Kay in Dubuque, Iowa, 5568.

What does he say here?

Anything?

Nope.

A

Guidry.

Guidry in

Ponchatoula.

Ponchatoula.

Ponchatoula.

Ponchatoula, Louisiana.

Guidry

is a name from that area.

5560.

Please dedouch me.

You've been dedouched.

Shout out to Mary Moon.

Andy Meyer in Leavenworth, Washington, 5555.

Maria

crazy names today.

Self, I guess, or maybe it's Maria S self.

It's just S S E L F in Rancho,

Cordova, California, 5271.

Bob Newell in Penfield, Pennsylvania, 5250.

Baron Henry of Outpost West in Rancho Palos Verdes, California, 5242.

Curtis Kuhl in East Stroudsburg, Pennsylvania, 5229.

A happy 16th anniversary to my wife.

Also, real men don't run out of gas.

That's a comment about something Adam.

He's aiming to finish his knighthood on show 1776.

Now,

thank you for reminding us.

That's going to be a big show number.

1776.

A big, massive show.

Spencer Ney in Weaverville, North Carolina, $51.50.

See what he says there.

As I go on to Thomas Hurtado in Fontana, California, $51.

And he wants some girlfriend karma at the end.

Forrest Martin, 50-05, and Andrew Benz in Imperial, Missouri, 50-05.

And now we get to the 50s.

Starting with Andrew Gusick in Greensboro, North Carolina.

A lot of North Carolinians in here today.

Donald LaRichards in Franklin, Virginia.

Greg Marshall in Calgary, Alberta, Canada.

Michael Sikora in New Richmond, Wisconsin.

Bold City Virtual Tours in Jacksonville Beach, Florida.

Dame Rita.

Oh, there she is in Sparks, Nevada.

Thank you for your courage.

Renee

Barnhart

something that ends at

Bernhardt's Grutter.

She's in

Switzerland.

Switzerland.

Bernhard.

St.

Gallen.

We need more Swiss listeners.

Maybe that's just her way of doing a Bernhardt donation because it's kind of Swiss for a Bernhardt greeting.

Bernhard's Grutter.

I'm just thinking.

Yeah, that's probably what it is exactly.

Leon Shipley in Covington, Washington.

Sir Jerry Wingenroth in Saugus, California.

And last on our list is Sir Greg in Newport, South Carolina.

I want to thank all these people for making show

1766 the reality that it became.

Yes, we appreciate you very much.

Everyone under $50 as well, although we will not read those names for reasons of anonymity because people do like that.

Also, we have our sustaining donations.

You can go to noagendadonations.com.

You can give us any amount, any frequency, once a day, once a show, once a week, once a month, whatever you want to do.

It's all up to you.

People do eventually become knights with this stuff, so it is well worth your time and trouble.

And of course, you support the best podcast in the universe.

Thank you all very much.

Jobs, Karma, as requested.

Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.

Let's vote for jobs.

You've got Karma.

Once again, NoAgendadonations.com.

It's a 13th birthday

Oh, no one chance.

And here's our list.

Greg wishes Brianne a belated happy birthday.

She turned 35 on May 18th.

Brian, happy birthday to Brother Craig in Kalispell.

He turns 50-something tomorrow.

J-Lo, happy birthday to Kaya, turning 33.

And Bruce Baer wishes Marcia Jones from Jonestown, Pennsylvania, a happy birthday.

And we do the same.

Happy birthday for everybody here, the best podcast in the universe.

It's your birthday.

And we have that one knight who needed no special attention at the roundtable, had no jingles, any of that.

So we'll just get him up here and bring out the one night blade.

There you go, the one night.

Beautiful blade.

All right, Ryan Nano.

You have reached the pinnacle, sir.

You are now welcome up on the podium here to join the roundtable of the Noah Genda Dames and Knights.

And I am very proud to pronounce KD as Sir Pliny the Hodler.

Sounds like a Bitcoiner to me.

For you, sir, we've got Hooker Samblow, Rent boys and chardonnay, cookies and vodka, warm beer and cold women, Polish potato vodka.

We've got beer and blunts, cowgirls and coffee varnish, coffin varnish, Ruben has mummin and rose, geces and sake, vodka, manila, bung hits, and bourbon, sparkling cider and escorts, ginger, ale, and gerbils, breast milk and pablum, or as always here at the round table, a nice hefty piece of mutton with a nice glass of mead.

And you can go to noagendarings.com and we'll have your signet ring ready for you.

All you have to do is give us your ring size.

There's a handy ring sizing guide at noagendarings.com.

And it comes with a certificate of authenticity.

And because it is a signet ring, we'll give you a couple sticks of wax so you can seal your, you can steal too, you can seal your important correspondence.

And thank you so much for supporting No Agenda.

Welcome to the roundtable of the No Agenda Knights and Dames.

No Agenda beyond

a party.

Like a party, they always are like a party.

I I witnessed it myself.

Last Friday, we had a No Agenda meetup here in Fredericksburg, right outside town, actually, in Lukembach, at 1776 Bar.

That is Jenny the J Sixers Bar.

It was a great time, and Fredericksburg Matt had organized that with his lovely wife, Gail.

And here is their meetup report.

It's nice to be out here with everybody.

Thanks for having us.

Wonderful barbecue.

And in the morning, everybody.

Well, that was Lori, and I'd like to thank her for 17 years of courage.

Hey this is Sir Dutifer.

Just want to give a shout out to all the no-agenda meetup heads out there.

It's been a really great time.

Hi this is Rob your constitutional lawyer.

I just want to be loved.

First but certainly not last the first meetup.

It's really been great.

Met a lot of nice people.

Too bad you're not here John.

In the morning citizens of slaves this is Sir Chris Mariner North Austin having a great meetup out here in Fredericksburg.

Some good barbecue and good new friends.

Hi, this is Trinidad.

I'm here at the meetup at Fredericksburg and we're having a great time.

Cheers.

Hey, it's Paige at the meetup.

Having a great time.

Fantastic barbecue.

Hey, everybody.

This is Sir Brian with a knives.

Again, I'm here with my smoking hot self, Sir Dirty Jersey whore.

John, work on your Texas accent.

In the morning, Jenny, your baby goats are amazing.

Yep, from Chicago, now in Texas.

This is looking good so far.

Hello.

This is Jenny.

Excited to have y'all back out in October.

Hey, this is Sean.

I'm still a douchebag, but everybody treated me very nice.

Awesome barbecue.

In the morning.

This is Brendan from local 512 saying in the morning.

Hi, it's Gail.

Second meetup in Fredericksburg, Texas.

A great success.

In the morning.

All right.

This is Terry Shore from Mount Point Barbecue.

We had a great time out here with Matt Long and got to meet Adam Curry.

That was awesome.

Best no-agenda meetup in a long, long time.

Lots of human resources, good food, good people.

And we got the Constitutional Warrior.

What else do you need?

There you go.

That was a good time that we had.

Patrick Cobel.

Sir Patrick Koble was in the Netherlands for a recent meetup because he travels.

He's bad.

He's international.

Baron Rob from another meetup in Leiden with us.

Very special guest, Sir Patrick.

Thank you.

In the morning, learning about very interesting ways to steal a car.

Good morning, Just Roland again.

Sir Sebastian, Knight of the Spirit Ground, saying hello.

And in the morning, with these great folks here in Leiden.

In the morning, this Duke of the South.

Howdy.

Howdy, nice to meet the Duke of the South here in Alabay, Sir Kuskadauver.

Hey Adam and John, thanks for everything.

Hey, could you maybe give the

rainstick a wiggle?

Because it hasn't rained here for at least two and a half months.

In the morning, this is Pedro.

Nice to meet these guys in Leiden again.

Why am I in Leiden again?

I don't know.

It's a nice evening.

In the morning!

These people are weird.

Hey, John, that's the first time in a long time we've had a rainstick request, and I think we should should do one because uh i'd like to bounce it off greenland and hit the netherlands you want to give it a shot

no but i will okay two two shakes of the stick these are official uh rain sticks everybody so it will rain uh we are professionals do not try this at home ready one two three go

shake one

And shake two.

You're afraid it's going to rain there.

Is that the problem?

No, we can use some rain.

Okay.

It's good.

All right, the Netherlands.

Let me know how that works out.

Meetups coming up on Saturday.

Quad Cities Area Extravaganza, 7 o'clock at Wise Guys Pizza and Pub in Davenport, Iowa.

Next Thursday, because no one's doing a meetup on Sunday, the Lazarus Waart Picnic Kulenborg, noon at Café de Hafenmeser in Kulenborg, Helderon, the Netherlands.

Also next Thursday, North Idaho Sanity Brigade May Meetup kicks off at 5 o'clock at Trails End Brewery and Brick Oven Pizza.

That's in Kurd Lane, Idaho.

And finally, the North Georgia Monthly Meetup, 6 o'clock at Cherry Street Brewing in Alpharetta, Georgia.

I got a request from Paul, who was organizing, I think this may be the first No Agenda meetup in Copenhagen.

Have you ever had one in Copenhagen before?

I don't recall one in Copenhagen.

That'd be a good place to have one.

It is the

Ersund meetup at the Baghavan.

That means the backyard, Bauhuen.

It's a micro-brewery.

And I suggest you go to noagendametups.com.

It's Friday, the 13th of June in Copenhagen.

Miklas Beghaven Opreffen.

There you go.

You'll find this in many more meetups listed at noagendameetups.com.

These are producer-organized, which means these are people that you will want to reach out to.

They are your first responders in an emergency.

And when you go to one of these, you get connection that always gives you protection.

Noagendameetups.com.

If you can't find one near you, start one yourself.

Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days.

You to be where you won't be triggered or hell lame.

You to be where everybody feels the same.

It's like a party.

Yeah, it's like a party.

Wow, I had one ISO, and it's this not working?

Is this ISO not not working?

Hmm.

That's interesting.

Like 10 people sent me this ISO

and

I don't know if it doesn't seem to want to load in my player.

So I'll just see if it plays.

If it doesn't, then the joke's on me.

You ready?

Yeah.

You know, I don't like dicks.

There you go.

You know, I don't like dicks.

Yes, that was taken from

EHM Plug show.

Yes, I thought it was.

And we were talking about Dick Sporting's goods.

Yes, yes.

I thought it was a fine end of show ISO.

I don't think you agree with me.

Well, it doesn't really apply to the show, and it's like, you know, kind of a,

it's somewhat profane the way it's clipped.

Somewhat, yes.

All right, so let's hear what you've got.

I have four, but actually, one of them isn't a clip at all.

I thought I'd play it just because it's an experiment.

This is three back-to-back-to-back because I'm just to let you know I'm still working on it.

This is what I'm working on, and this is how far I've gotten.

Yo, yo, yo, what up?

Yo, yo, yo, what up?

Yo, yo, yo, what up?

No,

none of them are even close.

I'm getting there.

It's

yo, yo, yo, what up, yo?

You gotta have a yo at the end, don't you?

Oh, okay, I'll work out.

I forgot about it.

All right, so I got a slew here.

I got ice, I gotta wake.

The podcast is over.

Wake up.

Okay, I like that one.

Tina would like that one.

Yeah, she would.

Gold.

Yeah.

It's gold.

Boys.

These boys have done another fine job.

Okay.

And then we have goof.

Good.

Good, actually.

Boof.

Why can't everyone do a podcast this good?

No, I think.

The podcast is over.

Wake up.

I think that's the one for me.

There's nothing quite like that.

Good job, everybody.

And now it is time for the coveted John C.

Devorak's tip of the day.

Great master, you and me.

Just the tip with JCD,

and sometimes Adam.

Yo, yo, yo.

Yo, yo, yo.

So, uh, this is something people don't realize.

It's something you'll use a lot of, but you don't know you need it.

Oh, one of those, one of those deals.

Okay.

Yeah, you get one.

This is for this is for lifting things an inch or two off the ground with the with no work.

And it's not like a cabinet jack.

These are cheap.

They usually come in pairs and they are

air power.

You squeeze.

You've got a bulb you squeeze in.

This is a cabinet jack?

No, I said this is not a cabinet jack.

This is not a cabinet jack.

Okay.

Cabinet jacks can be pretty expensive.

Yes.

This is called an air shim shim.

Air shim.

An air shim.

And the search you want to do to get the better ones is air shim

uh pro xl air shim pro xl and mimi uses these all the time to like she we had a we have a piano up at the in the port angeles house and and one of the casters broke and you put the air shim under the piano and you can pump it up and it lifts the piano about two inches off the ground in the corner and then you can put the new caster on and lower it back down.

Now you can move the piano around.

That's one example.

You can use it to lift up appliances, and

it's just one of those screwball products that nobody even knows they need.

Does anyone up there play the piano?

Jay can play the piano.

Jay can play the piano?

Yeah.

Oh,

is she good at it?

No.

All right, everybody, there it is.

You can read all these tips at tipoftheday.net.

Thank you.

Great master, you and me.

Just the tip

Well, that was Honest John strikes again.

All right, everybody, that is it for our broadcast day.

This Sunday, we have a special edition of the No Agenda Show.

It will be the best of the clip of the day.

This is a dynamite show

because all these clips were good because they were bestowed with a clip of the day.

We don't have it.

And the thing is, it's only about once every third show that we have a clip of the day.

And thanks to Sir Deanonymous for making Bingit.io available to us because that's how these special shows are put together.

So enjoy that on your Memorial Day weekend.

And of course,

we'll be checking in on you during that show.

So it'll be fun to listen to.

Coming up next on the No Agenda Stream and your modern podcast apps, that Larry Show, number number 488.

That's Larry with a deep voice.

Coming to you.

Oh, wait, end of show.

Hugh Allison, James Bosworth, David Kechta, and I am coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country right here in picturesque Fredericksburg.

In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.

And from Northern Silicon Valley, where I remain, I'm John C.

Devoray.

We'll see you on Sunday with the best of the clip of the day.

Until then, adios, faux, fossa, hoo-e-hooey, and such.

Well, we got some global warming in Texas.

Texans are definitely not strangers to heat.

That's not what humidity does if it's real humidity.

No, it makes sense.

You're in.

Forgetting.

Go to the Midwest.

Go up to Chicago.

Chicago, it's 90 with high humidity.

It feels like it's 200 degrees.

Hot down, summer in the city.

Back of my neck getting dirty drippies.

Terrible.

Dude, I've been in New York once where it was so humid.

Oh, you want to puke.

You walk outside.

That I had to change my clothes twice in one day.

It's going to see a light.

105, 106.

And experts say heat this early in the year can be especially risky.

And it's not just Texas.

This is increasingly a problem across the United States.

What are we, reptiles?

What is climatized body now?

We live in air conditioning, lady.

Here's the funny thing about it.

What difference does it make when the

temperature goes from whatever it is to hot?

I'm not climatized yet.

Are you climatized yet?

No one believes in climate change.

No one believes in it.

That want to be at the No Agenda Climate Test.

So you have to think that some of that sweet, sweet climate change money is going to outfits like NPR.

Today, many people around the world are marking International Day Against Homophobia, Biphobia, Biphobia, Biphobia, and Transphobia.

A day dedicated to raising awareness of biphobia and

biphobia show up.

The buys were like, hey, hey, hey, I want some phobia.

I want some phobia.

It's a bunch of balls.

Blue balls, red balls, silver balls.

It's a bunch of balls.

A bunch of balls.

Fabulous.

Balls.

Some gays and Adam.

The buys were like some gays and Adam.

It's a bunch of balls.

Fabulous.

Blue balls and red balls and silver balls.

It's a lot of balls.

Fabulous.

I want some phobia.

I want some phobia.

Gibby shows.

I want some biphobia.

Biphobia.

Biphobia.

Biphobia.

I want Cephobia.

Gibby.

I want some biphobia.

By bip biphobia.

Hey, hey, hey, biphobia.

Hey, hey, hey,

biphobia.

Biphobia.

Turn the lights down.

That's why I have so damn many other people I grew up have for cancer.

Arrest that man.

Cancer.

The cancer.

Kill the white farmers.

Kill

the cancer.

Kill

the cancer.

Turn the lights down.

Arrest that man.

Turn the lights down.

Arrest that man.

Dead white people.

Dead white people.

Dead white farmers.

Do they just want to get out for their life?

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