1805 - "Hamburger Wine"

Speaker 1 Seed oils.

Speaker 2 Adam Curry, John C.

Speaker 3 Dvorak.

Speaker 4 It's Sunday, October 5th, 2025.

Speaker 5 This is your award-winning Gitman Nation Media Assassination episode 1805.

Speaker 3 This is no agenda.

Speaker 7 Protecting you from social alchemy and broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA region number six.

Speaker 12 In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.

Speaker 3 And from Northern Silicon Valley, where there's no government shutdown, I mean everything's working. I'm John C.
Dvorak. It's Craig Bottom Buzzkill in the morning.

Speaker 14 Best thing about the government shutdown.

Speaker 15 Best thing.

Speaker 16 No chemtrails.

Speaker 3 It's perfect.

Speaker 19 It's perfect here in Texas.

Speaker 20 Chemtrail-free, we are, I tell you.

Speaker 3 That's because they cost money.

Speaker 22 Yeah, of course.

Speaker 24 It costs tons of dough.

Speaker 19 Can't have that.

Speaker 19 Yeah.

Speaker 25 No, I mean, we won't notice anything for at least another week, two weeks, maybe.

Speaker 27 I mean, is anything really changed?

Speaker 30 Except for a couple of the parks here are closed, I guess.

Speaker 32 Oh, no.

Speaker 14 Yeah, the national parks.

Speaker 34 Yeah.

Speaker 3 You have national parks? What national park do you have?

Speaker 33 I think that Lyndon B.

Speaker 38 Johnson Park somehow is tied to the Park Service, the National Park Service.

Speaker 31 It's not the Texas Park Service.

Speaker 3 Lyndon B. Johnson Park? It sounds like a scam.

Speaker 14 Well, all of Johnson City is pretty much a scam.

Speaker 42 I'd say Johnson City was the epicenter of scams during the Johnson years.

Speaker 46 It's where Johnson had all his bag men to go out across the country and collect.

Speaker 48 You know, collect.

Speaker 3 So let's talk about the shutdown for a second.

Speaker 34 Okay.

Speaker 49 That's a good idea. I have,

Speaker 51 just so you know, I have some early morning stuff from the Sunday morning shows when you're ready, but

Speaker 43 you get going first.

Speaker 3 Well, I just wanted to get this out of the way. This is the

Speaker 3 there's a lot of shutdown threats. There's shutdown analysis.

Speaker 18 Yes.

Speaker 3 And then there is Kennedy's little diatribe. I hope I have it on here.

Speaker 55 Yes, this is the shutdown.

Speaker 3 Yes. Oh, okay.
I spelled it wrong as usual.

Speaker 3 But this is Kennedy going off on Ecasio-Cortez.

Speaker 19 Oh, always fun.

Speaker 58 Basically, President Trump just said, we want you to take some stuff

Speaker 58 out of the budget that we think is wasteful. And we did.

Speaker 58 And that upset the Congress. She's entitled to be upset if she wants to.
But that really upset the socialist wing of the party. And so we took out, and here's what they want us to put back in.

Speaker 58 We found that under President Biden, they were spending $3 million for circumcisions and vasectomies in Zambia. We put that, took that out.

Speaker 58 The Congresswoman says, we're going to shut down government until you put that back in. We found $500,000 of American taxpayer money for electric buses in Rwanda.

Speaker 58 We found $3.6 million for pastry cooking classes and dance focus groups for male prostitutes in Haiti.

Speaker 59 Can you not? I'm not making this up.

Speaker 34 It was in the budget under President Biden.

Speaker 58 We took it out. Congresswoman Ocasio-Cortez in the socialist wing, the moon wing of the Democratic Party, says we're going to shut down government until you put it back in.

Speaker 58 I'll just read you a few more that we took out. $6 million for media organizations for the Palestinians.

Speaker 58 $833,000 for transgender people in Nepal, $300,000 for a pride parade in Lesotho, $882,000 for social media and mentorship in Serbia, $4.2 million.

Speaker 58 We took out the congresswoman and the socialist wing of their party says we've got to put that back in for them open government.

Speaker 58 $4.2 million for lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer, and intersex people in the Western Balkans and Uganda. I could spend the rest of the afternoon here.
We took all that out.

Speaker 58 It upset Congresswoman Ocasio-Cortez. It upset the socialist wing of her party.
And now

Speaker 58 that wing of her party and the Congresswoman are threatening all other Democrats and saying, you've got to shut that government down until we get what we want.

Speaker 58 And part of what they want is to add this kind of stuff back into the... And that's what this fight is all about

Speaker 3 uh always a good soundbite from anybody in congress during these shutdowns yeah it's uh i mean this used to be more common i mean ran paul used to be notorious for doing it

Speaker 3 there's rand paul ran paul should be there's no sound bites from him he's he's like not on the situation he's voting against but he's voting with the democrats on this of course he's the one guy because he loves the transgender stuff like that's like that.

Speaker 63 Like that's what it's all about.

Speaker 64 We know that that's not true.

Speaker 19 That's just, you know, it's fun, though. But those are things that

Speaker 53 benefit.

Speaker 3 I think all that stuff is probably from USAID.

Speaker 53 Oh, for sure.

Speaker 64 It's like I'm hearing him again.

Speaker 3 And by the way, I also suspect that that $4 million, $3 million, to all this money that supposedly goes to this and that is actually going into somebody's pocket to do something else. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 18 But you see, you're completely wrong.

Speaker 27 It's not about this at all.

Speaker 69 At all.

Speaker 48 Your buddy, Manhands Welker.

Speaker 50 Isn't that your buddy? She's the hands?

Speaker 71 Kristen Welker?

Speaker 3 The one with the big giant

Speaker 3 black laborer manhands. Manhands.
That one.

Speaker 39 Manhands Welker.

Speaker 72 She knows what this is really about.

Speaker 33 That's only a 30-second clip.

Speaker 43 We can get back to yours in a minute.

Speaker 73 And as you know, many Democrats have looked at your move.

Speaker 73 They say the House is not in session because you don't want to swear in this newly elected senator, the Congresswoman, Democratic congresswoman from Arizona, who would be a critical vote to releasing the Epstein files.

Speaker 73 How do you respond to that?

Speaker 74 Schumer and 43 of his Democrat colleagues in the Senate have decided now to vote multiple times to keep the government closed.

Speaker 74 We need them to turn the lights back on so that everyone can do their work.

Speaker 19 This is all so tedious and boring.

Speaker 42 It's the Schumer's shutdown.

Speaker 18 It's Trump's shutdown.

Speaker 44 Shit, shoot, shut, shut down.

Speaker 3 I think the Epstein shutdown is better. It's better.

Speaker 44 And that was right off the bat.

Speaker 71 That was the top of the morning from her.

Speaker 77 Yeah, we all know.

Speaker 3 You can set her up with that.

Speaker 22 Well, of course.

Speaker 3 Some writer.

Speaker 78 Yeah.

Speaker 60 Like she has a brain?

Speaker 80 No.

Speaker 3 Somebody put that in there.

Speaker 19 It's very funny.

Speaker 81 It's good.

Speaker 71 If you're going to have the Speaker of the House, get in with that one right away.

Speaker 79 We all know know this is about Epstein.

Speaker 21 We all know what's going on, Mike Johnson.

Speaker 3 Well, here's a couple of

Speaker 3 NPR clips just from yesterday. Shut down threats, NPR.
There's a kicker in here.

Speaker 83 Well, okay. NPR Stephen Fowler joins us.

Speaker 85 Good morning.

Speaker 83 Let's begin first with the threats to fire affairs.

Speaker 19 Hey, hey.

Speaker 86 Yeah, I have fire.

Speaker 3 Sorry, I forgot.

Speaker 50 No, no, that's not what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 Yeah, Scott. Yeah.

Speaker 50 I mean,

Speaker 39 when we have Scott Simon, you've got to warn me so we can.

Speaker 3 I mean, I usually put SS on the clip title. I just forgot.

Speaker 87 Suffering suckatash.

Speaker 57 I'm Scott.

Speaker 87 Simon.

Speaker 83 And Pierre Stephen Fowler joins us.

Speaker 85 Good morning.

Speaker 83 Let's begin first with the threats to fire federal workers. Has anyone actually been let go yet?

Speaker 52 Well, so far, they're just threats.

Speaker 88 Here's White House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt speaking to Morning Edition yesterday.

Speaker 89 The president President is meeting with the Office of Management and Budget to try to understand what agencies are essential, what agencies do not align with the administration's priorities and values.

Speaker 88 Here's the thing to think about, though, Scott. Any of these reductions in force or RIF efforts that would come would have to be from the leaders of these federal agencies.

Speaker 88 President Trump can't make them happen, and neither can Russ Vote, the head of the Office of Management and Budget.

Speaker 88 RIF rules are pretty particular about the amount of time and notice they have to give before they can take effect.

Speaker 88 There's also a lawsuit that's been filed from federal workers unions saying that the threat of firing workers, especially during a shutdown, is illegal.

Speaker 22 This goes right back to the Doge executive order.

Speaker 3 Yes, exactly. And so, and by the way, the threat supposedly of firing is illegal.

Speaker 92 Oh, the threat, not the actual firing, but the threat of it.

Speaker 48 Oh, well, that's you're paying attention to the words, as always.

Speaker 94 That's what they said.

Speaker 3 Yeah, you're right. And I think that's, I think it's absolutely.
I think there's some

Speaker 3 people.

Speaker 3 They're suing,

Speaker 3 but there hasn't been any firings, but they're suing anyway because of the threat.

Speaker 81 It's the threat, yes.

Speaker 3 So

Speaker 3 here's the kicker.

Speaker 88 Hakeem Jeffries said this in an NPR interview earlier this week.

Speaker 48 Oh, sorry.

Speaker 95 The Trump administration has been out of control since day one. They've been laying people off since day one.

Speaker 95 They've been firing federal employees since day one, and they've been violating the law since day one.

Speaker 88 Doge's work to cancel contracts and direct agencies to slash their workforce is an extension of Trump and Vote's long-held belief that the government should be smaller and spend less on things they don't agree with.

Speaker 88 Even as the White House has tried to circumvent the spending and budgeting power given to Congress, which Republicans have so far allowed to happen, it's worth noting that agencies have been hiring back hundreds of workers they let go earlier this year, and Treasury data shows spending has actually increased instead of decreased.

Speaker 48 What?

Speaker 19 Maybe. So we listen to all this bull crap.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 On and on. Oh, they're firing.
Oh, and Jeffries goes, On, they're firing everybody.

Speaker 1 We don't know what to do about it.

Speaker 3 We're suing them. And the government budget has gone up because they keep hiring more people.

Speaker 1 Are you kidding me?

Speaker 8 Well, the budget did go up.

Speaker 57 It went up.

Speaker 3 Well, the budget, the ceiling went up, but the budget, this is ridiculous. They have done nothing.
Trump hasn't backed it off even an inch or an iota. Well, Doge has done nothing.

Speaker 39 You're believing NPR now.

Speaker 97 I mean, come on.

Speaker 96 We know they got at least 50 billion.

Speaker 39 That's something.

Speaker 3 That's something. They want their money back.

Speaker 79 What they want is all that other stuff.

Speaker 39 You know, a trillion and a half dollars of nonsense.

Speaker 24 Stuff we definitely don't need.

Speaker 24 Yeah.

Speaker 64 Yeah,

Speaker 64 I get it.

Speaker 3 Well,

Speaker 3 I get it.

Speaker 98 I get it.

Speaker 3 There's two more clips.

Speaker 2 You can go do your thing. Yeah.

Speaker 3 To shutdown analysis one.

Speaker 51 Okay. Where's this from?

Speaker 50 Oh, NPR. Okay.

Speaker 83 Shutdown of the U.S. government.
Since Tuesday, the U.S. Senate has taken up the same votes to fund the government temporarily with continuing resolutions.

Speaker 35 They still don't have the votes.

Speaker 83 Is there an agreement even on the distant horizon?

Speaker 83 Joined now by NPR Congressional Correspondent Barbara Sprint. Barbara, thanks for being with us.

Speaker 8 It's so good to have Scott back on the sheen.

Speaker 99 Hey, thank you.

Speaker 83 The Senate yesterday failed once more to advance competing plans to extend federal funding and end the shutdown.

Speaker 83 How are those plans different again?

Speaker 99 Well, one is a GOP plan that has already passed the House. It would fund the government through November 21st.
And then there's a Democratic counterproposal as well.

Speaker 99 That would fund the government through October, and it includes an extension of health care tax credits that were boosted up during the pandemic. Those are on track to expire at the end of the year.

Speaker 99 Now, Republicans have said they'll negotiate on that point, but only after the government is funded. And even then, Senate Majority Leader John Thune has said it would not be a simple process.

Speaker 21 We can't make commitments or promises on the COVID subsidies because that's not something that we can guarantee that they're the votes there to do.

Speaker 83 There were a few Democrats who did support the Republican proposal this week.

Speaker 35 Has there been any more movement?

Speaker 83 Are the numbers tightening?

Speaker 99 No, they are not. It has been the same as that first vote where we saw two Democratic senators and one Independent joining Republicans.

Speaker 99 In fact, there's been so little movement on any kind of negotiation between the two parties that the Senate isn't even expected to stay over the weekend and do more votes.

Speaker 99 Hearschoon yesterday went asked about the possibility of weekend work.

Speaker 104 Hopefully over the weekend, they'll have a chance to think about it, and maybe some of these conversations start to result in something to where we can start moving some votes and actually get this thing passed.

Speaker 71 Who is this woman from NPR?

Speaker 19 I'm not familiar with her. I like her voice.
I like her voice.

Speaker 3 I've never heard her either.

Speaker 33 No, no, she has a

Speaker 3 weekend substitute.

Speaker 51 Well, she has a slick, suave, smooth kind of a vocal thing going on there.

Speaker 19 It's not your typical

Speaker 19 vocal fry.

Speaker 39 It's an improvement. I'm just saying, it's an improvement.

Speaker 3 Okay, well, I'll try to. I'll minimize these clips.

Speaker 19 This is your offhanded way of saying they suck.

Speaker 97 No, not at all.

Speaker 107 Don't they also want NPR and PBS refunded of that big whopping one percent?

Speaker 54 Isn't that also part of this?

Speaker 19 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Yeah, they have to have that money back.

Speaker 14 Well, so shouldn't shouldn't NPR disclaim and say part of the demands are to bring us money.

Speaker 51 So just so you know, you know, that it involves us, they should have some kind of, what do you call that?

Speaker 61 Full disclosure. A disclaimer.

Speaker 101 Full disclosure.

Speaker 66 Full disclosure.

Speaker 19 Yeah, they should. Yeah.

Speaker 3 I've been listening. I listened to the NPR all day yesterday to get some of these clips.

Speaker 79 Oh, my God.

Speaker 19 Did you need to take Advil?

Speaker 3 I did.

Speaker 3 But the point is, is no.

Speaker 2 They've never said that once.

Speaker 81 No.

Speaker 16 No, of course not. Of course not.

Speaker 3 I mean, they'll do it when they do it like a story about John Deere. They'll say something like, well, John Deere also

Speaker 3 dunderwrites the show, but here we're going to talk about it. But they didn't, no, they have not done that, and they should have.
You're right. Let's go with the second part of this.

Speaker 99 The impasse is essentially this.

Speaker 99 Because the Senate needs Democrats to reach that 60-vote threshold to pass this kind of bill, Democrats, who of course have very little power as the party in the minority, say that demanding that there be some kind of negotiations between the two parties is appropriate.

Speaker 99 Unsurprisingly, Republicans do not share that view. They say Democrats are holding the American people hostage via the shutdown.

Speaker 83 Of course, in the meantime, the White House is proceeding with plans to cut programs and spending

Speaker 83 often it seems in areas with lots of democratic voters. What is the argument they make here?

Speaker 99 Well, this is very much in line with the administration's thesis when it comes to its role in cutting programs and government workers.

Speaker 99 Items on the chopping block include some transportation projects in New York, the home state of both the House and Senate Democratic leaders.

Speaker 99 Press Secretary Caroline Levitt told our colleague Steve Inskeep yesterday that the administration views that as minority leader Chuck Schumer's fault.

Speaker 90 They can't show up to work right now. So that project is currently temporarily halted because of Chuck Schumer's shutdown.
So Chuck Schumer did that to himself.

Speaker 90 He did that to his constituents in New York.

Speaker 83 And how do Democrats respond?

Speaker 99 Well, Democrats have called this an intimidation tactic.

Speaker 99 They've blasted a plan from the White House's budget arm to fire federal workers instead of temporarily furloughing them, which is usually what happens in a shutdown.

Speaker 99 Independent Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont said he thinks that plan will backfire.

Speaker 110 And the idea that you have a president who says, hey, your state voted against me, we're going to cut funding for you.

Speaker 100 That is not only illegal, not only outrageous, it is unconstitutional.

Speaker 20 These people are old and decrepit, and I'm tired of them.

Speaker 14 And it's fine if you say that about me in 20 years, but right now I'm tired of them.

Speaker 62 And you know what they should do?

Speaker 112 So the Democrats, they need something to save face.

Speaker 79 Here's what I would do.

Speaker 92 If I was the president, I would say, okay,

Speaker 14 we'll give you your circumcisions in Albania back.

Speaker 39 We'll give you your LGBTQ pride parade in Morocco, whatever it is.

Speaker 115 We'll give you all that back.

Speaker 64 Are you happy now?

Speaker 52 Is that really what it's all about? Is that what you want?

Speaker 71 Give them something.

Speaker 56 They need something.

Speaker 33 I'm sure that

Speaker 112 the climate change stuff is what he's thinking of giving back or something like that.

Speaker 85 That's the art of the deal, the art of the deal.

Speaker 39 He has to give up something sometime.

Speaker 17 Or will he just keep it going for a month?

Speaker 3 I think they should keep it going forever.

Speaker 66 Well,

Speaker 3 shut down that Lyndon Johnson Park.

Speaker 78 By the way, you can still just get in.

Speaker 23 It's not like...

Speaker 3 Oh, you can just go in and

Speaker 19 get it.

Speaker 39 It's not like you can't walk into

Speaker 61 the park.

Speaker 64 Yeah, a friend of ours and her friends, they were all camping out here, and they came by last night, yesterday afternoon.

Speaker 38 And I said, well, was the park shut down?

Speaker 19 Yeah, we had the code because we booked it before the shutdown.

Speaker 116 So we just had the code and went right in.

Speaker 117 The code.

Speaker 65 I got a gate code.

Speaker 118 Well, our ATC

Speaker 39 producers and our CBP producers.

Speaker 32 Wait a minute.

Speaker 3 I'm thinking, why doesn't some entrepreneurial type

Speaker 3 have the gate code and go stand there at the thing and collect money?

Speaker 2 Take money.

Speaker 19 Take money.

Speaker 52 Put on a uniform.

Speaker 119 Yeah, I put a

Speaker 3 hard hat and

Speaker 3 the orange vest.

Speaker 114 And a clipboard. And a clipboard.

Speaker 60 Yep, you're on the list.

Speaker 92 I see it. Yep, you're on the list.
Hey, we should do no agenda meetups in these parks now.

Speaker 117 Yeah.

Speaker 54 There's all kinds of good ideas.

Speaker 27 Well, while this is going on, the president has an interview scheduled to air tonight.

Speaker 39 He's chosen, this time, he's chosen a different network.

Speaker 17 Typically, he goes for one of the big three.

Speaker 39 Now he's chosen OAN for his big interview, which I think is an interesting move, the home of Matt Gates, Gaetz, although it's not Matt Gates to do the interview, and he's got some promises.

Speaker 105 We also might make a distribution to the people, almost like a dividend to the people of America.

Speaker 120 How much are you thinking for that, sir?

Speaker 121 Well, we're thinking maybe $1,000 to $2,000. Yeah.

Speaker 10 Be great.

Speaker 120 Inflation is completely stable. It's round-target rate, and the country is ultimately taking in unprecedented amounts of tariff revenue, more than $200 billion

Speaker 123 at this point in time, sir.

Speaker 122 What do you believe this extra source of revenue can be put towards?

Speaker 120 And how big of a game changer is it

Speaker 61 for your administration?

Speaker 105 Well, ultimately, you know, because we're talking about just kicking in, they're just starting to kick in. But ultimately, your tariffs are going to be over a trillion dollars a year, in my opinion.

Speaker 105 We're going to do something.

Speaker 121 We're looking at something where, number one, we're paying down debt because people have allowed the debt to go crazy.

Speaker 105 But, you know, with growth, with the kind of growth we have now, the debt is very little, relatively speaking.

Speaker 11 And we're going to grow our way out of it

Speaker 105 you grow yourself out of that debt it's not a question of paying it you grow yourself out and the numbers are so much bigger than they ever were the numbers we have now are bigger than they ever were so when you have 36 trillion dollars in debt how many times a year ago

Speaker 3 stop yeah he has this tendency when he's bigger than ever bigger when he's full of it just to repeat the phrase it's bigger than ever so if you back it up he says the numbers are going to be bigger than ever no they're going to be bigger than ever they're they're going to be bigger than ever you keep saying the same thing and it'll say it twice at least.

Speaker 19 I think he's saying that the debt numbers are bigger than ever.

Speaker 3 Well, that's for sure.

Speaker 105 You grow yourself out, and the numbers are so much bigger than they ever were. The numbers we have now are bigger than they ever were.

Speaker 105 So when you have $36 trillion in debt a year ago or two years ago, and you have a lot less revenue coming in, then you have 37 or 38.

Speaker 105 It's not 38 yet, but it will be.

Speaker 105 And the numbers are so much bigger, all of a sudden 38, you're underlevered, whereas for 36, you were highly levered. We're not highly levered anymore.

Speaker 121 Now, with that being said, we'll pay back debt.

Speaker 97 We're not highly levered anymore.

Speaker 97 Okay.

Speaker 36 He should say, you know, the checks should be giant checks.

Speaker 28 Did you know that Publishers Clearinghouse went out of business?

Speaker 3 Yeah,

Speaker 3 it's been for a while now.

Speaker 3 I think they went bankrupt. Yeah, it was so.
And they pulled the plug on all these poor people that were collecting monthly benefits.

Speaker 52 Yes, and some company bought them.

Speaker 3 they're going to reinstate under a new name but the people who got screwed are not going to get yeah no you're you're done yeah that seems like that's why you always take the cash out you've got to take the cash so i'm listening they don't give you the cash out you can find uh someone's financial operations to give you collars caller get a collar so this is going on and i read on cnbc i thought i misread the well i did misread the headline I thought it said it said, Treasury Way is minting.

Speaker 39 I thought it was going to be a $1 trillion coin.

Speaker 125 Treasury Way is minting $1 trillion coin with Trump's face for U.S.

Speaker 75 250th anniversary.

Speaker 65 And then I realized it's a $1 coin.

Speaker 92 I was excited.

Speaker 52 I'm like, oh, the trillion-dollar coin is back.

Speaker 3 They're going to mint a coin with Trump's head on it?

Speaker 39 A dollar coin.

Speaker 52 It has his head en profile.

Speaker 42 Liberty in God We Trust, 1776 on the other side.

Speaker 3 I thought that was like illegal or is always assumed not if you did do it when the guy was alive.

Speaker 112 It's a commemorative coin, so you can do that.

Speaker 126 They're all yeah, well, okay.

Speaker 14 Yeah, so and the other side will have the iconic uh photo of him and the flag and fight, fight, fight.

Speaker 3 No, yes, yes, that's corny, it's a draft, a draft picture, of course.

Speaker 19 It's corny,

Speaker 39 but you know, is a somber, is putting your opponent in a sombrero any less corny?

Speaker 3 Well, no, that's funny, yeah, and it's gone out of control. There's like there's at least least 20 new ones out there with different sombreros or dancing.

Speaker 43 They better come out with the stablecoin gambit pretty quickly.

Speaker 64 They got to start launching that.

Speaker 127 I don't know what the plan is.

Speaker 79 But if you want to spread our debt to the rest of the world, you got to get that going.

Speaker 128 Meanwhile,

Speaker 17 Senator Tammy Duckworth was on CBS Face the Nation with Margaret.

Speaker 129 And

Speaker 39 this was actually kind of, I didn't know how annoying I thought she was.

Speaker 29 I think, you know, because you look at her, she didn't she have,

Speaker 37 she's a veteran, so she, I think she lost a leg, or did she lose two legs?

Speaker 39 Something like that.

Speaker 43 So, you know, you never really pay attention to her because you look at it like, oh, man, I feel bad for her.

Speaker 26 And thank you for your service.

Speaker 43 But when you listen to her in audio, it's like, ugh.

Speaker 51 So she's talking about what's going on with the

Speaker 68 guardsmen in Chicago.

Speaker 130 So I I have to ask you about what the president announced yesterday in regard to federalizing 300 National Guardsmen out in the state of Illinois.

Speaker 130 We've heard this threat going back all the way to August. The governor says these are not needed.
Do you have any idea when they'll arrive?

Speaker 131 Well, I believe they're going to be Illinois National Guardsmen, so they're not going to be coming from outer state.

Speaker 131 I spoke with our governor yesterday, and it looks like it's going to be about 300 Illinois Guardsmen.

Speaker 39 She sounds a bit like Macy Hirono,

Speaker 39 except she talks a little bit faster, but she has the same kind of intonation as from Hawaii,

Speaker 79 and probably just as dumb.

Speaker 131 Who will be activated against the governor's wishes? So they'll be homegrown Illinois, and they're our brothers and sisters, our neighbors.

Speaker 131 I probably served with quite a number of them, certainly the leadership.

Speaker 71 And they'll be home.

Speaker 131 We'll welcome them. It's a misuse of the National Guard.
They're not needed in this particular role. If President Trump really wanted to fight crime, then maybe he should stop defunding the police.

Speaker 66 What?

Speaker 11 This is my favorite bit.

Speaker 52 So Trump is now defunding the police.

Speaker 122 This is great.

Speaker 131 And then maybe he should stop defunding the police. He, you know, he diverted $800 million in crime prevention efforts away from that was appropriated away from funding for our police officers.
So

Speaker 131 they're not needed, but we're going to welcome them because they're our brothers and sisters and we're proud of our National Guard.

Speaker 92 And if you look at the Chicago budget, the number one expenditure is police, which is kind of crazy because they're not doing a great job, most people think.

Speaker 46 And most of the anarchists in Chicago, I know a couple,

Speaker 41 they want to defund the police.

Speaker 114 They hate the Chicago police.

Speaker 39 They hate them with a passion, which kind of reminds me

Speaker 39 back in the days, was it Mad Magazine or Cracked?

Speaker 31 I think it was Cracked, probably.

Speaker 3 They always had the Chicago cops always portrayed as these horrible, you know, brutes.

Speaker 71 Was that Crack Magazine?

Speaker 19 Am I thinking about the right magazine?

Speaker 3 You'd be mad. It just doesn't matter.

Speaker 77 Yeah.

Speaker 117 There's brutes.

Speaker 3 But they're notorious. I mean, I lived in Chicago when I was a kid, and then

Speaker 3 my parents were from Chicago.

Speaker 3 And you find out certain things, like, for example, on the, there's a bunch of, you know, you're always supposed to bribing the cops is always considered the thing you always do, and it's always done the same way.

Speaker 3 You keep your driver's license in a little

Speaker 3 cellophane pack, and there's a $100 bill tucked tucked behind the driver's license.

Speaker 3 And so when you get pulled over for some, it's usually something stupid. And it's usually, there's a good element of this taking place on the route to the airport.

Speaker 3 And it's the funniest thing that's happened at one time. I was...

Speaker 18 A new story, something we haven't heard yet.

Speaker 3 I was driving to the airport and a cop pulls me over for doing 36 in a 35 zone or something like that.

Speaker 3 You know, so you were speaking. He says this driver's license.
I saw him him the license. He looked, took one look.

Speaker 3 He took a look and he flipped it over to see if there was any money or anything attached, but then he saw it said California.

Speaker 81 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 3 And he figured, I didn't know what the hell I was doing. I didn't know how to bribe him.
And so he just gives me the license back and says, move along.

Speaker 3 Got rid of me. He's wasting his time.

Speaker 124 Atina got pulled over the other night

Speaker 107 by

Speaker 67 DPS,

Speaker 67 Department of Public Safety.

Speaker 19 So I think think the Highway Patrol falls on the DPS, but it wasn't Highway Patrol.

Speaker 93 And she got pulled over.

Speaker 64 And I know my wife.

Speaker 85 She's a rule follower.

Speaker 22 It's like, you were speeding.

Speaker 19 She says, no, it wasn't.

Speaker 46 And he's shining the light in her eyes.

Speaker 112 It's a Friday night.

Speaker 63 So, you know, they expect people to be drunk on the roads.

Speaker 64 Fair enough.

Speaker 19 He was like, yeah, you were speeding.

Speaker 52 You don't have a front license plate.

Speaker 64 This is a big deal in Texas.

Speaker 17 This is ongoing fight.

Speaker 57 Like, we don't want it.

Speaker 72 We don't want front license plates

Speaker 19 for some reason. And most cars don't really have a spot for it if you buy them in Texas.

Speaker 60 And so he gave her a warning.

Speaker 49 It's like,

Speaker 24 how could you prove that she was speech?

Speaker 103 He had no proof.

Speaker 65 Harassment.

Speaker 44 Harassment of a pretty girl, of course.

Speaker 96 So no payoffs here.

Speaker 64 Try that.

Speaker 31 I wonder if that'll work in Texas.

Speaker 126 Try and pay off a...

Speaker 65 a cop. I don't think that'll work.

Speaker 14 Anyway, we continue with

Speaker 17 lady about what's happening in Chicago.

Speaker 130 He has surged, or the federal government has surged agents from different groups. The FBI said yesterday they're sending folks in.

Speaker 130 Tell me about these protests, because the images look pretty intense of what has happened between people on the streets of Chicago. We're showing some of that video now around immigration issues.

Speaker 130 As I understand yesterday, ICE authorities shot a Chicago woman in the Brighton Park area.

Speaker 130 Secretary Noam claimed ICE fired defensive shots at this woman who was armed, who had appeared in a Border Patrol intelligence bulletin previously.

Speaker 130 She claims that federal agents were surrounded and were threatened. What are local authorities telling you about what they think happened here?

Speaker 131 Well, they lie. Right? The Trump administration lies.
We have a president who's a known liar.

Speaker 23 I'm questioning if this isn't Macy Hirono.

Speaker 59 How can this be?

Speaker 1 I mean, that's not Macy Hirono.

Speaker 3 Macy Hirono, you're correct. She talks slower, and she has

Speaker 3 more of a sing-song voice.

Speaker 135 Okay.

Speaker 3 And she is incredibly, and she just sounds dumb.

Speaker 97 Is this a milieu, maybe?

Speaker 19 A milieu thing?

Speaker 3 Well, the Hawaiian accent is very noticeable. It's also very reminiscent of various American Indian tribe accents.
It uptalks a bit.

Speaker 3 It can be slow and plodding. It's a plodding accent.
It's very,

Speaker 3 it can be extremely annoying, and it can sometimes sound stupid.

Speaker 28 They have been

Speaker 131 lying about the situation all along. And in fact, they even shot

Speaker 131 tear grass grenades, I think, at a reporter who was simply driving by with her window open.

Speaker 15 And so

Speaker 131 we're urging people, we're urging our protesters, remain calm, peaceful protests, exercise your First Amendment rights,

Speaker 118 but videotape everything.

Speaker 131 Everybody has a phone, tape everything, so we actually have real evidence of what is happening. We know the Trump administration lies consistently.

Speaker 131 And what I am hearing is that for the large part, people are being very quiet, are being very respectful, but ICE is being very aggressive. Remember that they are zip-tying children.

Speaker 131 They are raiding apartment blocks in the middle of the night, separating children from their families, pulling people out onto the streets naked.

Speaker 131 They are using disappointments in Chicago. And this is what Trump wants to do, right? He wants to intimidate the people of Chicago.
That's not going to happen.

Speaker 131 And we're going to document everything and make sure,

Speaker 131 just as the judge in Portland said, that these requirements, these

Speaker 131 orders from the Trump administration are not actually tied to reality.

Speaker 15 Okay.

Speaker 20 So I think this is really just a lead-in.

Speaker 76 And there is a...

Speaker 129 form of get comfortable with it, Chicago and Memphis and Oregon, get comfortable with it because we're going after crime.

Speaker 129 And

Speaker 63 I've been doing a little bit of

Speaker 64 looking around here and there, and I found this clip of

Speaker 49 Stephen Miller.

Speaker 27 And it kind of fits in.

Speaker 3 Stephen Miller, the guy, the Trump administration guy?

Speaker 67 Yeah, that guy.

Speaker 135 He has a tick.

Speaker 3 He has Tourette's, by the way.

Speaker 39 Oh, he's a brother.

Speaker 3 His tick, I can tell you what his tick is, and people can start to look for it.

Speaker 43 Yeah.

Speaker 3 His head will be talking to you, and then he will have an uncontrollable jerk

Speaker 3 of his head, his entire head, down about, I'd say, a quarter of an inch and over to the right, always to the right, his right.

Speaker 3 About another quarter of an inch.

Speaker 3 He'll do it when he gets a little nervous. He'll start to do it, and he can do it two times in a row.

Speaker 3 But it's an obvious

Speaker 3 and having, and I consider myself an expert on this, having worked with somebody for almost 20 years who has Tourette's.

Speaker 32 Who would that be?

Speaker 3 I saw that long documentary, and I've kind of considered myself an expert. You're an expert, but I spot this stuff.
And if you see it, once you see it, you'll agree with me.

Speaker 101 Yes. Well, so there's hope for me in politics.

Speaker 62 That can have a job

Speaker 19 in the White House.

Speaker 139 Here's what he said: to the Memphis Police Department, to the officers that I see sitting in front of me, we are about to provide you with a level of support you cannot even imagine.

Speaker 139 This isn't just a task force. This is an all-of-government unlimited support operation.
ATF, DEA, FBI, ICE, Department of War, every resource we have.

Speaker 139 And they're not going to be sitting behind a desk at a keyboard. We are sending in real cops with guns and badges to go out with you on the street every single night making arrests.

Speaker 139 These are people who have taken down drugs, kingpins, the worst criminal offenders in the United States, standing with you shoulder to shoulder to shoulder.

Speaker 139 All we ask from you is to show up at roll call every single night with your brothers and sisters in the federal government and to go out and get the criminals off the street.

Speaker 139 And if you do that, I pledge to you, we will liberate this city from the criminal element that has plagued it for generations. This is not just a strategy shift.

Speaker 118 This is an attitude shift.

Speaker 139 We are not going to live in an environment

Speaker 139 anywhere where there is a street that belongs to a criminal, where there is a neighborhood that belongs to a gang, where there is any physical space anywhere that belongs to anyone other than the law-abiding citizens and families of Memphis.

Speaker 139 The idea that there is a square inch of block in this city where a citizen doesn't feel safe is unacceptable.

Speaker 141 This is Memphis.

Speaker 139 This is the United States of America. And all that bullshit is done.

Speaker 141 It's over.

Speaker 139 It's finished.

Speaker 107 There's your Tourette's right there.

Speaker 19 Bam, bam, bullshit.

Speaker 41 So this is actually part of something much bigger, I believe.

Speaker 145 And I'm going to get to the North Sea Nexus on this one.

Speaker 29 We heard this mentioned a while back during maybe one of those, I don't know,

Speaker 107 A.G.

Speaker 113 Barbie things where they all of a sudden Cash Patel started talking about Operation Summer Heat.

Speaker 55 Do you recall that?

Speaker 3 I think we. No, I can't keep track of all these operations.

Speaker 46 Well, so this op has been going on for the summer, and here's Cash Patel to bring us up to speed.

Speaker 146 As I said, this is breaking news. We've kept it quiet for the summer.
Operation Summer Heat was a three-month surge by the FBI with our state and local partners.

Speaker 146 We started at the end of June, and we just wrapped up at the end of September. And what we did was follow one theme: crushing violent crime, one of this administration's key priorities.

Speaker 146 And we went into every single field office we have, 55 field offices scattered across the country.

Speaker 146 And today, we're going to unveil the results of Operation Summer Heat and what law enforcement can do when you let good cops be cops. I think a quick historical analysis is important here.

Speaker 146 You have to recognize that there was an explosion in violent crime, and it didn't happen in a month or six months.

Speaker 146 It happened over the course of years due to the prior administration's laxicadaisical approach against crime.

Speaker 38 Did he say laxicadaisical?

Speaker 66 That's a new one.

Speaker 146 Over the course of years, due to the prior administration's laxicadaisical approach against crime. And violent criminals took advantage of that.

Speaker 146 So the FBI, under my leadership, we came in and they said, okay,

Speaker 146 violent crime is exploding. Everybody knows that.
We see that. You can't walk around these cities anymore.
People are getting shot. Kids are getting shot.
Drugs are killing our youth.

Speaker 146 We need to do what the FBI is best at and crush violent crime. So we targeted all the major cities in the country.

Speaker 146 You can't just walk into a city and say, okay, there's 150 law enforcement officers here. Let's go arrest people.
You have to build a ground game of intelligence that takes months.

Speaker 146 That's what we did in Memphis. That's what we did in Chicago.
That's what we did in New Orleans.

Speaker 146 And that's why, at President Trump's direction, we went in quietly months ago into these cities to set Phase 01.

Speaker 146 Now we're going in with the guard to complete that project. And that's the beauty of operations like Summer Heat.

Speaker 85 Okay, so they've been at this for a couple of months.

Speaker 23 They've been setting it up.

Speaker 63 And of course, this is in large part about drugs, because that's what most of the gang activity is related to.

Speaker 60 And here are the results so far.

Speaker 146 Summer Heat had 8,700 arrests. In three months, Summer Heat had 2,281 firearms seized permanently off our streets.
Three months, fentanyl, 421 kilograms.

Speaker 146 By the way, that's enough to kill over 50 million Americans.

Speaker 146 20 million. 50 million.
On the low end, that's a conservative estimate. Lethal doses off that seizure.

Speaker 146 45,000 kilograms of cocaine. We conducted

Speaker 146 operations that led us to 2,000 indictments and 1,400 convictions. And the bulk of that work came from our violent crime and gang forces.

Speaker 146 I want to highlight that because that was the focus of Summer Heat. 6,500 of this casework came specifically out of that.
And here's something that's not on this chart.

Speaker 146 Operation Summer Heat found and located almost 1,000 child victims and returned them to safety.

Speaker 100 Sexual trafficking?

Speaker 146 Victims of sexual trafficking, victims of home abuse, victims of rape, and violent crimes against children.

Speaker 37 So a couple of people sent me this

Speaker 14 Substack article about how Trump is rolling up the drug scourge once and for all.

Speaker 43 And it was very interesting because it points directly back to the city of London and really the Panama papers, interestingly, about how there's $50 to $75 trillion that has been made through drug trade.

Speaker 43 A lot of that, of course, went to our streets.

Speaker 116 You know, we typically, offensive, blame China, but if you really, and we've always looked at the, you know, I think I've said many times in the past, if you stop the illegal drug trade, our country would collapse.

Speaker 14 You know, it's the economy runs on drugs and probably most, the world economy runs on illicit drugs and to some degree on

Speaker 98 legal drugs, certainly here.

Speaker 116 We got everybody on some kind of drug.

Speaker 150 And

Speaker 52 as I'm thinking about, we're also, we're now in season six, last season of Downton Abbey.

Speaker 26 And you look at, this is 1925 now, and you kind of look at these, these, uh, the royal

Speaker 21 extensions of the royal family, the British elite, and their, you know, their houses are starting to crumble.

Speaker 116 They're running out of money because they never worked.

Speaker 33 You know, how'd they get the money?

Speaker 135 Well, they were all part of the East India Company, and of course, they had the opium wars on China, which is their favorite way of doing it.

Speaker 19 You know, they hooked, what was it, 40 million Chinese on opium.

Speaker 20 They transported all the slaves to the New World.

Speaker 21 As an aside, very prominent in the series is the hatred for the Jews and for the Catholics.

Speaker 52 Of course, they were Irish Catholics, and hated the New World success, which, you know, it's only been 100 years.

Speaker 14 And as I've said, I don't think that has stopped that hatred of our success.

Speaker 96 So they continue what they're very good at is the drug trade.

Speaker 52 And, you know, maybe we can screw America this way.

Speaker 9 And I got three clips here from my favorite old ladies, Promethean Action, who gave us a little rundown

Speaker 152 on the concept

Speaker 51 from the North Sea Nexus.

Speaker 44 And we start with a famous guy, Bertrand Russell.

Speaker 19 Can you give me a little background on Bertrand Russell?

Speaker 3 Yeah,

Speaker 3 Bertrand. Bertrand.
Russell was a who lived to be about 100 and made the claim that he didn't like eating meat because it was eating a corpse.

Speaker 53 And he was.

Speaker 151 Oh, I thought you meant that he'd rather eat a corpse.

Speaker 43 No, I understand what you're saying. Yeah.

Speaker 3 And he

Speaker 3 wrote a lot of plays and

Speaker 3 was a

Speaker 3 top-notch, one of the top intellectuals out of the UK.

Speaker 3 He was considered a creme de la creme

Speaker 3 of the great thinkers.

Speaker 41 So I could have read this, but the Promethean Action Ladies, they read it for us.

Speaker 21 So here's a little excerpt from Bertrand Russell.

Speaker 154 I just want to talk about three people today. Bertrand Russell, Aldous Huxley, and George Soros.

Speaker 154 The three of them together describe the cultural attack our nation has suffered since our elites declared the post-industrial society in 1971 and sold us out.

Speaker 112 By the way, 1971 is an interesting year.

Speaker 107 That's the year we got off the gold standard.

Speaker 17 I just wanted to mention that I found that to be very coincidental.

Speaker 154 Here is Lord Russell in 1951 in his work, The Impact of Science on Society, describing the future as he saw it. I think the subject which will be of most importance politically is mass psychology.

Speaker 154 Its importance has been enormously increased by the growth of modern methods of propaganda. Of these, the most influential is what is called education.

Speaker 154 The subject will make great strides when it is taken up by scientists under a scientific dictatorship.

Speaker 14 Sounds like Common Core and Bill Gates to me.

Speaker 154 The social psychologists of the future will have a number of classes of school children on whom they will try different methods of producing an unshakable conviction that snow is black.

Speaker 154 Various results will soon be arrived at. First, that the influence of the home is obstructive.
Second, that not much can be done unless indoctrination begins before the age of 10.

Speaker 154 Third, that verses set to music and repeatedly intoned are very effective. Fourth, that the opinion that snow is white must be held to show a morbid sense of eccentricity.

Speaker 60 Sounds very familiar to me when I hear all these things, you know, break up.

Speaker 3 I like the song thing. I should do a little sight, a little note.

Speaker 32 Yeah, please do.

Speaker 19 Please do.

Speaker 3 Which is,

Speaker 3 if you've ever visited, well, nobody does, but I was at Scott Adams' house and I noticed that he

Speaker 3 never has any, of course, I don't, I have in my house, I have a lot of music.

Speaker 125 It's 24-7 classical music.

Speaker 3 I have music playing in my house, 24-7 classical music. And And it's for various reasons.
It's good for that. That's for one thing.
The low notes keep varmints out.

Speaker 3 That's for one thing, especially if you have a couple of 15-inch.

Speaker 57 Wait a minute.

Speaker 3 Hold on a second. You'll never have problems.

Speaker 25 The low notes keep the varmints out?

Speaker 20 Is that bugs or just mice and rags?

Speaker 60 Rugs?

Speaker 114 Bugs.

Speaker 19 Bugs.

Speaker 19 So classic.

Speaker 22 This is a tip of the day.

Speaker 3 That's a good tip, by the way.

Speaker 19 Classical music will keep bugs out of your house.

Speaker 119 Okay.

Speaker 3 Well, if you have,

Speaker 3 yes, but I'm using some down-thrusting 15-inch woofers in the house.

Speaker 19 Yeah,

Speaker 3 which creates a subsonic sound that the bugs don't like and and does it matter it can it be Vivaldi or does it have to be Wagner or something I just there's a we have a couple of classical streaming stations I just place you know everything all the class and also they can't hear the cries from the basement which is kind of good yeah they're very useful and so

Speaker 3 So Adams has not never any I said I said you don't you I don't know how it came up in the conversation but he says

Speaker 3 no it's it's just all

Speaker 3 you don't, you shouldn't play music because it's all propaganda. He's not talking about classical.
He's talking about pop music. People are always playing, you know, they got their headphones on.

Speaker 19 They're all popping around.

Speaker 3 And he's of the opinion that it's all subconsciously designed propaganda that you should not be subjecting yourself to 24-7, especially, you know, if you're going floating around.

Speaker 3 And that's what I think is what Bertrand Russell said there in his commentary.

Speaker 33 Well, especially the beats part.

Speaker 63 I mean, listen, I mean, there's a whole category of songs about smack your bitch up and, you know, killing each other.

Speaker 19 And, you know, it's called hip-hop.

Speaker 3 It's got a lot of violence in this.

Speaker 19 It's called modern hip-hop.

Speaker 33 Yes, very violent.

Speaker 19 So, and it's definitely with beats.

Speaker 51 Okay, so that's one.

Speaker 42 Aldous Huxley, of course, no stranger to the show.

Speaker 154 Aldous Huxley was part of Russell's nest in British intelligence, along with the signist Ellison Crowley. He played a huge role in the 1970s counterculture.

Speaker 154 Speaking to a 1961 conference sponsored by the Voice of America, Huxley said the following.

Speaker 154 There will be in the next generation or so a pharmacological method of making people love their servitude and producing dictatorship without tears, so to speak, producing a kind of tainless concentration camp for entire societies so that the people will in fact have their liberties taken away from them, but will rather enjoy it because they will be distracted from any desire to rebel by propaganda or brainwashing or brainwashing enhanced by pharmacological methods and this seems to be the final revolution and i'd say that's spot on i mean adderall ritalin uh

Speaker 50 uh the micro dosing of uh ketamine i mean all of this is going on

Speaker 14 And that kind of folds into Neil Postman's amusing ourselves to death, you know, because now I'd say the pharmacological piece is one part, but we also have the doom scrolling is another part, which kind of

Speaker 26 shifts the responsibility a little bit.

Speaker 152 But I just thought, yeah, okay, that makes sense that Aldous Huxley would say that.

Speaker 60 And of course, we can't leave out the mega-brit George Soros.

Speaker 154 George Soros's career has been sponsored at all times by major British financiers, including the Rothschilds and the Queen. He's played a major public role in implementing this policy in the U.S.

Speaker 157 and Latin America, along with the U.S.

Speaker 154 and British governments. From 1979 forward, Soros, through his Drug Policy Institute, led campaigns for drug decriminalization and legalization.

Speaker 154 When you hear someone say the war on drugs is a waste of money and an offense to personal freedom, that's the manufacturing belief this campaign created.

Speaker 154 In addition, Soros, the National Endowment for Democracy, and USAID led campaigns throughout Latin America to overthrow nationalist governments and support the drug cartels.

Speaker 154 This picture, showing the head of the New York Stock Exchange embracing Raw Reyes of the drug-running FARC in Colombia, speaks a thousand words.

Speaker 21 So, if I look at the second Trump administration's track record, you know, Department of Education, USAID, now going after the drugs on the street, but not just on the street.

Speaker 67 This really hasn't gotten a lot of play because of the shutdown.

Speaker 145 It's gotten the play, and that's the drug boats from Venezuela.

Speaker 59 Admiral, I want to ask you about, turn to Venezuela.

Speaker 161 You've seen those attacks, those U.S.

Speaker 162 strikes on boats that the president said are drug smugglers, are drug traffickers, drug cartels. What's your take on that?

Speaker 164 Well, we always people think of me as the NATO guy, but I spent almost four years as commander of Southern Command. I would have been in charge of those operations.

Speaker 164 So, as a commander, you're thinking, what are we trying to do here? I think what we're trying to do tactically is knock down drugs. We're trying to deter drug smugglers.

Speaker 164 We're trying to send a pretty strong signal to Maduro, and we're sending a larger signal to Cuba and Nicaragua. So, I can see the impetus for all this.

Speaker 164 My concern would be, if I were the commander right now, how strong is the evidence that I'm holding in hand that can allow me to consider these people enemy combatants?

Speaker 164 We really haven't seen much of that evidence. I think the administration would be wise to release at least some of that so they can justify these kinds of extremely aggressive military spirits.

Speaker 162 And just quickly, if you can, the legality of this, he says that it is in armed conflict with drug cartels.

Speaker 164 It's right on the edge. And that is why, see paragraph one, let's get the evidence out, not the sources and methods, but what are we basing this on?

Speaker 164 And then let's also capture a few of them alongside the more aggressive means because you want the intelligence. You want to be able to interrogate.

Speaker 164 You want to be able to hold those drug smugglers accountable in our court system. So it's right on the edge.

Speaker 41 It's really interesting the amount of people who are pushing back on this blowing up the drug smuggling boats.

Speaker 82 You know, oh, well, you know, Trump's just killing people willy-nilly, and this can't be done.

Speaker 69 And I'm like,

Speaker 19 why is it?

Speaker 3 I find the contrast to be interesting here is because of what Obama did with his kill list.

Speaker 125 Yeah, one every Tuesday.

Speaker 3 And he would blow these guys up all over the place in sovereign country. He wouldn't do it on the open seas.

Speaker 3 He would be in a sovereign country. He'd blow up a bunch of guys.
And then he did, which was really disgusting, was the double tap.

Speaker 19 Yes, yes, exactly.

Speaker 35 The minute they came back, yeah.

Speaker 19 No, it was

Speaker 70 when help came in, yes.

Speaker 3 As soon as they said they blow up a pack, what he said was a bunch of terrorists, and you know, may or may not have been, and he decides to blow them up.

Speaker 3 He blows them up with the drone, with the, with a predator drone, and he joked about it in one of the correspondence that it was about predator drones. Blows them up, and then they wait a while, so

Speaker 3 all the ambulances and

Speaker 3 Red Crescent, whatever comes to help these people, then they hit them again to kill those people.

Speaker 3 That seems a little more extreme, especially on a sovereign nation, than blowing up a boat on the open waters, which they're making a big fuss about.

Speaker 3 But come on, let's go back and be realistic here if we're going to be critical.

Speaker 18 And of course, we saw some of that in

Speaker 156 the videotape that Glenn Greenwald showed.

Speaker 3 They also showed the video of the blowing up of the terrorist cells, yeah.

Speaker 51 Which, of course, was shut down real quick.

Speaker 103 That's not talked about anymore.

Speaker 60 Even by Glenn Greenwald, that's not talked about anymore.

Speaker 18 But of course, that didn't affect the actual money,

Speaker 19 the drug money that I think a lot of people that we're unaware of are benefiting from.

Speaker 155 So I was looking for some analysis on this, and I found a report from Deutscheville.

Speaker 65 I will kick it off here.

Speaker 166 The United States has announced that it has carried out a new strike on a boat off the coast of Venezuela, the fourth in recent weeks.

Speaker 166 This one comes after President Donald Trump declared that the U.S. is at war with drug cartels.

Speaker 166 He made the designation in a notice sent to Congress on Wednesday, which has been seen by multiple media outlets.

Speaker 166 It says, The president determined these cartels are non-state armed groups, designated them as terrorist organizations, and determined that their actions constitute an attack against the United States.

Speaker 166 Last month, the U.S. said it carried out three deadly military strikes on boats in the Caribbean, in international waters near Venezuela.
It alleges that they were smuggling drugs. The U.S.

Speaker 166 has also built up its naval forces in the area and dispatched 10 F-35 aircraft to Puerto Rico, a U.S. territory.
It's the biggest military deployment in the Caribbean in decades.

Speaker 166 The strikes have raised questions about whether the U.S. military is legally entitled to kill alleged cartel members under domestic and international law.
By declaring the U.S.

Speaker 166 is involved in an armed conflict with the cartels, the Trump administration aims to provide a legal rationale for its actions.

Speaker 143 Well, the attacks have also increased tensions between the U.S.

Speaker 167 and Venezuela.

Speaker 166 Venezuela's left-wing authoritarian president, Nicolas Maduro, has accused Trump of a covert bid to oust him.

Speaker 166 The Trump administration accuses Maduro of being a narco-terrorist and a drug cartel leader and is offering a $50 million bounty for his arrest.

Speaker 71 So they bring in an expert on this, Christopher Sabatini.

Speaker 19 Listen to his resume.

Speaker 116 Senior Fellow for Latin America at Chatham House.

Speaker 79 Lecturer in discipline.

Speaker 26 Yes, lecturer in discipline in the School of International and Public Affairs at Columbia University, Spooks.

Speaker 26 Also on the advisory board of Harvard University's LASPAU, the Advisory Committee for Human Rights Watch America's Division, and of the Inter-American Foundation.

Speaker 9 He's also an HFX fellow at the Halifax International Security Forum.

Speaker 124 You could not get a better guy to defend this.

Speaker 66 You want to say something?

Speaker 19 No. Oh,

Speaker 53 here we go.

Speaker 166 And to find out what exactly is going on here, I'm joined now by Christopher Sabatini. He's a senior fellow.

Speaker 17 Yeah, let's find out exactly what's going on here, shall we?

Speaker 26 Let's get our information from this guy.

Speaker 167 For Latin America and Chatham House, that's an international affairs think tank based in London. Mr.
Sabertini, it's good to have you with us. President Trump says that the U.S.

Speaker 167 is at war with drug cartels.

Speaker 166 I'm wondering first, what's the point of this notice to Congress, in your opinion?

Speaker 134 Well, frankly, this is an attempt to cover their argument. They're trying to demonstrate that this is a war that legitimates, in their view, attacking civilians without due process.

Speaker 59 Yeah, hold on.

Speaker 3 There is an interesting little milieu

Speaker 3 usage there that I thought was interesting. What's that? The term that you normally use would be legitimize, not legitimate.

Speaker 112 Is that not just an

Speaker 110 Anglophilian?

Speaker 3 No, I don't think so. There's something fishy about using that term.

Speaker 19 Okay.

Speaker 3 I just use a marker.

Speaker 57 I know we'll mark it.

Speaker 3 I think it's a marker.

Speaker 64 Marker.

Speaker 60 Yep, marker. Well,

Speaker 96 I think his resume kind of already told us.

Speaker 75 Yeah, no, he's already marked but it's just another you know a marker for other for for others so he's he's actually going to push back again you know so again department of education we're getting the illegals out um uh

Speaker 94 um

Speaker 107 what's the usaid

Speaker 124 hopefully going after uh

Speaker 60 the uh was the word democracy the uh endowment for democracy yeah

Speaker 135 all of these things all of these things are all bad for america and so now we're going after the drugs on the street and the supply lines, and Chatham House is having none of it.

Speaker 134 Well, frankly, this is an attempt to cover their argument. They're trying to demonstrate that this is a war that legitimates, in their view, attacking civilians without due process,

Speaker 134 that in which they are the equivalent of combatants in a war zone.

Speaker 134 Questions have been raised across the aisle by both Republicans and Democrats that by declaring this war on narco-terrorists, is the term they like to use, it is in violation of the War Powers Act.

Speaker 134 And it is even in violation of international norms because they're killing civilians without due process. Right, wait.

Speaker 94 Without them actually. Wait, wait.

Speaker 3 I like the way he does this. Another good one, another good bit he just pulled, which is as a violation of, not in violation of international law,

Speaker 3 mind you, which is a legitimate thing to complain about. No, it was a violation of international norms.

Speaker 151 Good point.

Speaker 28 Good catch.

Speaker 3 Which is meaningless.

Speaker 36 Yeah, my norms.

Speaker 57 Yeah. Yeah.
The New World Order norms.

Speaker 81 It's a violation of that.

Speaker 19 We don't do that.

Speaker 135 And then he says the war. But

Speaker 3 the way you couch it, it makes it sound like it's a violation of international law.

Speaker 72 Right. That's why you say norms.

Speaker 44 But also, he's full of crap because the president sent his letter to Congress.

Speaker 19 He said, this is a war.

Speaker 20 These are terrorists.

Speaker 19 Here's my executive order, who I've all said is a terrorist, including Antifa.

Speaker 103 And these guys are terrorists, so I'm going after them.

Speaker 20 So he's, I guess he has 60 days or whatever, but he's within the War Powers Act, which, of course, is super broad, but that's besides.

Speaker 1 And if they don't like it,

Speaker 3 they can repeal it. They don't do that.

Speaker 134 Narco-terrorists is the term they like to use. It is in violation of the War Powers Act, and it is even in violation of international norms.
Good point.

Speaker 134 Because they're killing civilians without due process, without them actually being armed threats.

Speaker 134 So he's trying to draw this, I think it's a very loose and tenuous connection between drugs and armed combatants, which, quite frankly, a number of U.S.

Speaker 134 senators, again, on both sides of the aisle, are not quite buying.

Speaker 26 Okay, well, we'll pay our attention to which senators are not buying it.

Speaker 3 Get a list of those guys.

Speaker 75 Yes, we'd like to know who exactly is in with the British invasion here.

Speaker 71 So how does Maduro fit into this?

Speaker 167 You know, at the center of this U.S.

Speaker 166 War on Drug Cartels is Venezuela and its president, Nicolas Maduro.

Speaker 166 Can you tell us what role do they play in international drug trafficking?

Speaker 134 They're large international drug traffickers as a country. They're not producers, and they're not producers at all of fentanyl.

Speaker 134 Fentanyl, when it crosses the border in the U.S., comes from Mexico, oftentimes from Chinese precursors, materials.

Speaker 134 But in the case of Venezuela, what they are is they are a transshipment point for cocaine that's leaving Colombia.

Speaker 134 But they really only, the cocaine that leaves Venezuela, most of it's actually bound for Europe.

Speaker 134 only about five percent of the cocaine consumed in the United States comes across Venezuelan airspace or maritime space.

Speaker 66 Hold on a second.

Speaker 125 This guy seems to know a lot about it.

Speaker 19 He has percentages and everything.

Speaker 11 He's like airspace.

Speaker 151 Are we going to shoot down planes now?

Speaker 66 What is this?

Speaker 87 I think that that was highly unusual.

Speaker 19 Hey, by the way.

Speaker 3 That's a little bit too granular.

Speaker 156 This is not our main supply line.

Speaker 76 This is just a little bitty bit.

Speaker 134 Only about 5% of the cocaine consumed in the United States comes across Venezuelan airspace or maritime space.

Speaker 134 Most of the cocaine that enters the United States comes from the Pacific or up through the isthmus of Central America and through Mexico.

Speaker 134 So this is really an attempt to try to engage in another agenda that the Trump administration has, which is to try to engage in regime change, to take out the Nicolas Maduro government.

Speaker 125 They've made Nicolas Maduro and a number number of his

Speaker 134 associates in the government as being members of the Carteles de los Sol,

Speaker 94 Cartelos Soles, which is

Speaker 134 naming as a narco-terrorist organization.

Speaker 134 And they're claiming that that gives them the license to effectively take them out.

Speaker 26 A little detour here for the Pentagon releasing the video of the hit.

Speaker 161 Tonight, the Pentagon releasing this video of a deadly military airstrike on what officials say, without providing evidence, without any evidence, was a drug boat attempting to smuggle narcotics into the U.S.

Speaker 161 The massive explosion, sending debris raining down in international waters just off the coast of Venezuela, flames shooting from the vessel.

Speaker 76 Wow, so graphic.

Speaker 161 The U.S. says four people were killed.

Speaker 173 The president has directed these actions, these strikes against Venezuelan drug cartels and these boats, consistent with his responsibility to protect the United States' interests abroad.

Speaker 161 Secretary Pete Hegseth saying, Our intelligence without a doubt confirmed that this vessel was trafficking narcotics, the people on board were narcoterrorists. Today's strike is the fourth known U.S.

Speaker 161 attack on suspected Venezuelan drug boats since early September.

Speaker 175 We have proof. All you have to do is look at the cargo that was like it spattered all over the ocean.
Big bags of cocaine and fentanyl all over the place.

Speaker 119 Big massive bags.

Speaker 135 You all saw it.

Speaker 176 And the Trump administration has now told Congress as rationale for the strikes that they consider drug smugglers unlawful combatants with whom we are involved in armed conflict.

Speaker 176 But critics question the legality.

Speaker 81 Oh, the critics. Oh, the critics.

Speaker 21 We'll finish up with this Maduro shill here.

Speaker 134 By the same token, they've also doubled the bounty on Nicolas Maduro's head to $50 million.

Speaker 134 So if you happen to have any information to be able to turn him over to U.S. authorities, you can make yourself a quick $50 million.

Speaker 134 That, by the way, is more than the U.S. placed on the head of Osama bin Laden.
And it demonstrates just a general trend across this entire rhetoric and policy, which is hyperbolic. It's unclear really

Speaker 134 whether Cartel de los Solas actually exists as a hierarchical organized cartel as it's being described by the Trump administration.

Speaker 134 It's unclear to what extent Nicolas Madoro, he probably is very well aware of narcotics trafficking, flying over Venezuelan airspace and leaving Venezuelan shores, but it's unclear whether this is truly an organized operational cartel with him sitting at the head.

Speaker 134 But that's very much what the Trump administration wants to portray.

Speaker 134 But again, UNODC, UN Office of Drugs and Crime, as well as independent investigators who really question the logic and evidence that the Trump administration is putting forward to make these claims.

Speaker 77 Everybody's in on this.

Speaker 43 They're all in on the money train with this, as far as I'm concerned.

Speaker 52 And what's interesting is that we've blown up four of these boats.

Speaker 177 It really doesn't get the same amount of play on mainstream media as the shutdown and Epstein.

Speaker 103 Of course, all that's gone down a little bit, Diddy, et cetera.

Speaker 165 And online, we are obsessed with one thing and one thing only.

Speaker 152 Here's Nick Fuentes.

Speaker 123 So who owns your mind?

Speaker 19 Zuckerberg runs Meta, which is Facebook and Instagram Jewish.

Speaker 91 Alphabet, which owns Google and YouTube, is run by a couple of Jews.

Speaker 57 Larry Page, Sarah Gabe Okay.

Speaker 38 So that's YouTube, Google, Facebook, Instagram.

Speaker 19 TikTok is now owned by Larry Ellison.

Speaker 38 So that's TikTok as well.

Speaker 19 Those are your social platforms.

Speaker 91 Out of the big media conglomerates, you got Disney, which is run by Bob Iger. You got NBC and Universal, which are run by Jews.
You have CBS, Warner Bros., Paramount Studios, now run by David Ellison.

Speaker 122 You've got the Salem Radio Network and Brad Parskill working on behalf of Israel.

Speaker 91 You've got Fox News, Wall Street Journal under the Murdoch, dear friends of Israel. You've got Daily Wire, Prager University, Breitbart, all run by Jewish editors, Jewish owners.

Speaker 88 Are you starting to get it?

Speaker 66 This is so phenomenal.

Speaker 18 He's on TikTok.

Speaker 55 He's on YouTube.

Speaker 57 He's on X.

Speaker 19 He can say whatever he wants to say, but somehow they're controlling your mind.

Speaker 35 He goes on about

Speaker 35 the

Speaker 3 NBC and whoever was he listed there owned by Jews. That's Brian L.
Roberts is not a Jew.

Speaker 53 Is he kidding?

Speaker 160 Well, he didn't mention Elon, friend of Israel.

Speaker 59 Yeah.

Speaker 8 And Sergey Brin doesn't run Google.

Speaker 76 That's

Speaker 3 actually take it back. Roberts was born into a Jewish family.

Speaker 119 Ah, there you go.

Speaker 22 So

Speaker 75 once again, the Jews are running.

Speaker 72 And every single day, John, I get emails.

Speaker 19 Are you convinced? Well, you should.

Speaker 3 Aren't you convinced? You should.

Speaker 81 People, get me.

Speaker 3 Adam at Curry.com. It's easy to remember.

Speaker 52 Aren't you convinced yet that the Zionists run run our country?

Speaker 92 Aren't you sure of it?

Speaker 125 And at this point,

Speaker 14 Nick Fuentes, I mean, I don't know where he makes his money or how he makes his money, but that guy is some sort of an op.

Speaker 81 And people love him.

Speaker 28 And he got Kanye in on it.

Speaker 20 Oh, the Jews, the Jews, the Jews are taking it all away from me.

Speaker 71 And you can hate Israel.

Speaker 41 You can hate the government of Israel.

Speaker 116 That's fine by me.

Speaker 49 That's okay.

Speaker 36 But the danger is...

Speaker 116 that we start to all hate the Jews just like the Brits do, which is why I think, you know, it's my thesis, the Brits created the modern state of Israel in the first place.

Speaker 97 Send them all there, we can blame them for everything, and we'll do stuff in the Middle East and get our BP and all of our oil and anything else we want.

Speaker 19 And by the way, America has quite a history of hating Jews.

Speaker 152 I was watching a Dutch review, book review of Mein Kampf, which was quite interesting.

Speaker 165 And Hitler was a big fan of Madison Grant.

Speaker 41 Madison Grant wrote this book called The Passing of the Great Race, and he was

Speaker 101 the chair of

Speaker 44 the New York Zoological Society.

Speaker 114 Zoological.

Speaker 31 I said zoological.

Speaker 14 I started to say zoo, but then I said zoological, which later, and today is now known as the Wildlife Conservation Society.

Speaker 19 Then he, you know, which is all the green agenda, which is, you know, the whole green thing.

Speaker 152 That's...

Speaker 112 totally functional fascism.

Speaker 50 And if you look at the European Union with Ursula, it's basically the Nazi Party dream.

Speaker 19 But my point is to say that we get suckered into this stuff so easily.

Speaker 177 And now it's become part of the podcast grift.

Speaker 28 I just have to say it because now you have to do stuff.

Speaker 3 Listen to this. Was it podcast grift?

Speaker 44 Yes, podcast grift.

Speaker 3 I like that term.

Speaker 23 Because you got to add in there that obviously Israel killed

Speaker 26 Charlie Kirk and Israel is to blame for they run our country.

Speaker 52 They run Trump.

Speaker 28 They run everything.

Speaker 44 So now, if you do a podcast, you've got to say stuff like this.

Speaker 82 This is Theo Vaughn, by the way.

Speaker 180 I would never take my own life. I'm grateful to God for his grace in my life.

Speaker 47 I love my siblings.

Speaker 180 I have so many friends and people that love me and people that I want to see their children grow up.

Speaker 19 I'm hopeful that I get to have a wife and

Speaker 180 meet my own children one day. Like, there's a ton of things in my life that keep me alive and hopeful, right? I want to be able to have an impact in the world.

Speaker 180 Those are just a few of them probably, you know? I mean, so many just moments we've shared on this show that I'm like, oh, I live for those things.

Speaker 180 I would never take my own life. I would never take my own life.

Speaker 80 Okay.

Speaker 180 You hear that, Israel?

Speaker 40 See, this is, yeah,

Speaker 59 this is what you got to say.

Speaker 57 Oh, wait, it gets better.

Speaker 8 Listen to this. Here's Candace.

Speaker 181 Well, Marjorie Taylor Green has been very loud about how she is against that. She has grown increasingly vocal.

Speaker 181 And she feels the need, as she did a couple of days ago, to publicly clarify that she is not suicidal. I mean, it's ridiculous, but we do all have to say it.

Speaker 181 If you have influence and you're speaking out against Israel, you do have to kind of make that statement.

Speaker 55 We do have to make that.

Speaker 75 This is why we don't make these statements, John, because we're covering for Israel, obviously.

Speaker 125 We're covering for the Zionists.

Speaker 18 So this is the new grift.

Speaker 23 I'm not suicidal

Speaker 52 when I talk out about Israel,

Speaker 3 what is the benefit of taking this approach?

Speaker 18 Because people are sucked up into hating Israel, the Zionists, they run everything.

Speaker 72 It's rampant.

Speaker 24 Dude, this has been going on for years.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I understand that, but what is the benefit? I still don't understand the benefits. I mean, besides not getting hate mail to adam at curry.com.

Speaker 34 But

Speaker 3 the benefits.

Speaker 62 Well, it's audience capture.

Speaker 125 Everybody want, just go look at my ex-time.

Speaker 3 Oh, audience capture. You might be right.

Speaker 15 No, I'm completely right. That's what it is.

Speaker 82 Don't you see now that your donations are going down?

Speaker 3 Addicts Jones has been bleeding audience.

Speaker 3 Donations are going down because we're not hating on people.

Speaker 75 What they're saying is, if you don't say Israel is running everything, and we just don't believe it.

Speaker 26 We believe, in fact, quite the opposite.

Speaker 60 And I think we can prove that once again.

Speaker 3 It's so obvious that they're not running everything. They're not running anything.
In fact,

Speaker 19 there's a couple of questions.

Speaker 19 I got one more clip.

Speaker 93 We'll get to that.

Speaker 158 So, you know, the whole point is: if you don't think, if you don't think and say out loud that Israel runs America and all of our politicians through AIPAC, then you're going to lose money.

Speaker 23 So it's basically either I listen to what you say and don't lose money, or I take money from Israel.

Speaker 119 I mean, that's really the binary bullshit.

Speaker 3 Where's your money from Israel, by the way?

Speaker 19 Exactly.

Speaker 3 Has it come in yet?

Speaker 137 So, Marjorie Taylor Greene, now she has a good point because she is,

Speaker 71 she's, this is her own grift.

Speaker 14 She's playing on this in a very obvious way.

Speaker 9 And we know this from one of the last things Charlie Kirk did with all the Gen Zers.

Speaker 15 They're all saying, look,

Speaker 117 look,

Speaker 51 we can't pay our rent.

Speaker 168 We have, you know, it's a crappy situation in America.

Speaker 14 And why are we sending all this money to Israel, which is 10 billion?

Speaker 70 Let's say it's 50 billion.

Speaker 78 I don't care what it is.

Speaker 25 Why should we be doing that?

Speaker 124 And of course, the answer is because that's our military base in the Middle East.

Speaker 116 Fine, people can believe me or not, but that's literally aircraft carrier in the sand is how it was set up and what it was called in the 70s.

Speaker 114 We've played all the clips.

Speaker 52 But if you look at the money we send elsewhere, just the military in general is a trillion dollars.

Speaker 21 Look at the money we're sending all over the world.

Speaker 36 We sent 10 years worth of Israel money to Ukraine.

Speaker 114 Those flags drop pretty quickly.

Speaker 36 So, Marjorie Taylor Greene is using this for votes and for popularity, which equals votes.

Speaker 19 And I can't blame her.

Speaker 75 But she is doing the same thing as the podcast grift.

Speaker 51 Here she is with Matt Gates on OAN.

Speaker 159 We got to talk about APAC attacking you, sending out fundraising emails saying that you are not acting in the interests of our country.

Speaker 184 Marjorie Taylor Greene, your reaction to APAC's fundraising emails attacking you.

Speaker 186 Yeah, Matt, I'll go ahead and be straight and honest about this. I'm absolutely furious.
And as a matter of fact, AIPAC needs to register as a foreign lobbyist because they're breaking U.S.

Speaker 186 laws by donating to members of Congress and by taking them on a fully funded trip to Israel every single freshman member of Congress's year.

Speaker 186 They just took them over just recently and had them meet with the prime minister of Israel. But let's frame that correctly.

Speaker 186 They take them over to meet with the secular government of nuclear-armed Israel. Israel, who is in less than $400 billion in debt, Israel, who has taxpayer-funded health care and college.

Speaker 186 Israel is not hurting, and they've already proven that they are more than capable of not only defending themselves, but annihilating their enemies to the point of genocide.

Speaker 186 And that's what's happening in Gaza. And Matt, the reason why AIPAC is attacking me is because I dared to tell the truth.

Speaker 186 As a matter of fact, I've been saying America first for a long time, but I'm getting to the point of saying America only. And I'll tell you why, Matt.

Speaker 186 It's because pretty much if you're under the age of 40, you have no hope for the future. We're $37 trillion in debt.
People can't afford to buy a house. They can't afford rent.

Speaker 186 They can't afford insurance. They can't afford their bills.
And we have HB1 visas stealing all these American jobs. And I'm sick and tired and fed up with it.

Speaker 186 But listen, if AIPAC wants to come after me and accuse me of betraying my American values, AIPAC, you know what? You can bring it on. I am totally ready for this.

Speaker 186 And this is a fight that I will fight and I will give it my all. And I can guarantee you, you're going to lose because America is fed up, Matt.

Speaker 186 They're fed up to here with funding foreign wars, funding foreign causes, funding foreign countries for foreign reasons that have nothing to do with Americans while Americans work their ass off every day and pay their taxes and come home and they're living paycheck to paycheck and their credit cards are matched out.

Speaker 186 I don't care anymore. I honestly don't care.
So I'll burn this bridge to the ground and I will let the flames light the way and because this is a fight that needs to happen.

Speaker 155 So she is playing into feelings that are rampant online, fueled, I'm sure, by ops like Fuentes to blame it all.

Speaker 107 Because when you blame it on Israel, it goes right to the I've seen this movie before.

Speaker 116 It's happened many times in history.

Speaker 29 It winds up with Jews getting killed, nice people everywhere in the world getting killed.

Speaker 150 That's just how it always winds up.

Speaker 125 But she's pretending like

Speaker 72 it's Israel.

Speaker 81 No.

Speaker 125 AIPAC funded by the American Israeli Education

Speaker 145 Foundation, which is funded by the military-industrial complex.

Speaker 171 The very thing that President Eisenhower warned us about.

Speaker 3 Yeah, Lockheed, Raytheon,

Speaker 72 they fund it.

Speaker 145 They're the ones that are going in there.

Speaker 3 And they're because it's money in their pockets.

Speaker 19 And they're horrible too, because they're like, oh,

Speaker 8 do it under the guise of Israel.

Speaker 127 Oh, you got to do it for Israel.

Speaker 124 Play on your Christian values, blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 36 But at the same time, you cannot deny that President Trump is now very clearly in charge of the situation with this Gaza deal.

Speaker 170 In fact, let me just play.

Speaker 3 I have clips too.

Speaker 97 I got two clips, and then I'll be done.

Speaker 185 Here he is.

Speaker 170 Listen to who he thanks for this deal.

Speaker 144 I want to thank the countries that helped me put this together. Qatar, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Jordan, and so many others.
So many people fought so hard. This is a big day.

Speaker 144 We'll see how it all turns out. We have to get the final word down in concrete.

Speaker 144 Very importantly, I look forward to having the hostages come home to their parents and having some of the hostages, unfortunately, you know the condition they're in,

Speaker 144 come home likewise to their parents because their parents wanted them just as much as though that young man or young woman were alive. So I just want to let you know that this is a very special day,

Speaker 144 maybe unprecedented in many ways. It is unprecedented, but thank you all and thank you all to those great countries that helped.
We were given a tremendous amount of help.

Speaker 144 Everybody was unified in wanting this war to end and seeing peace in the Middle East.

Speaker 144 And we're very close to achieving that. Thank you all, and everybody will be treated fairly.

Speaker 60 Doesn't sound like a very pro-Israeli speech to me, thanking all of the Arab nations.

Speaker 75 And now he's out openly trolling Netanyahu.

Speaker 188 Noga, good morning. It seems things are moving full steam ahead, and Donald Trump is continuing to pile pressure on both sides.

Speaker 189 He is. He has not lost interest, Allison.
And it is interesting to observe. So that yesterday, hours after he posted on his truth social media website,

Speaker 189 a sort of another threat to Hamas saying, basically, get a move on. You don't have a lot of time to release the Israeli hostages or else.

Speaker 189 Subsequently, he posted, he made two posts that are sure to have severely irritated. Prime Minister Netanyahu.

Speaker 189 In one, interestingly, he posted an image of the more than 100,000 Israelis who gathered yesterday in Tel Aviv, who rallied to demand an end to the war.

Speaker 189 This is a weekly event, in smaller numbers, a daily event. And somehow Trump has become aware of these things.
It's the second time he posts.

Speaker 189 And it's important to me, you know, Netanyahu refers to these protesters as enemies of Israel,

Speaker 189 as draft dodgers, in the worst possible terms. So that was an interesting thing.

Speaker 189 And shortly thereafter, the the President of the United States posted a map of the withdrawal lines that he proposes for this 20-point peace proposal.

Speaker 189 And he announced unilaterally that Israel had agreed, thus removing quite a bit of Israeli leverage in the discussions that are going to start in Egypt, the negotiations that are going to start in Egypt as of tomorrow, as of Monday.

Speaker 189 So it is interesting to see him not lose interest and keep pressuring both sides basically every few hours since he announced this deal.

Speaker 79 Sombreros are coming.

Speaker 97 That's next.

Speaker 43 It's obvious who's running the show here.

Speaker 66 It's so obvious, but okay.

Speaker 26 All right, what you got on the.

Speaker 3 Let's go with these. I have some, these are from PBS, and these are, this is Hamas.
This is the story with a bunch of analysis, but the opener is Hamas PBS version one.

Speaker 192 President Trump is sending envoys Steve Witcoff and Jared Kushner to Cairo this weekend to try to nail down a deal.

Speaker 103 Sorry, I have to get colour commentary.

Speaker 192 President Trump is sending envoys Steve Witkoff and Jared Kushner to Cairo this weekend to try to nail down a deal between Hamas and Israel to free the remaining Israeli hostages.

Speaker 192 The President hopes that would be the first step toward ending their war, which is to enter its third year on Tuesday. In Gaza, the skies were relatively calm.

Speaker 192 Palestinian hospital officials say Israeli bombing has significantly subsided, though not stopped entirely. They said at least five Palestinians had been killed.

Speaker 192 Israeli officials say the IDF has shifted to a defensive posture in Gaza. On social media, the president said the next steps were up to the Palestinian militant group.

Speaker 192 Hamas must move quickly or else all bets are off. I will not tolerate delay or any outcome where Gaza poses a threat again.
Let's get this done fast. In Khan Yunus, displaced Palestinians said Mr.

Speaker 192 Trump's pressure should be directed elsewhere.

Speaker 195 My message to Mr. Trump is to pressure Israel for a ceasefire.
He is feeling for us and aware of our situation.

Speaker 187 This is enough.

Speaker 125 Did PBS mention the post he made about the Israeli protesters, the enemies of Israel?

Speaker 3 They have a bit.

Speaker 3 I think their analysis is better, and it starts right with his next clip.

Speaker 192 Aaron David Miller was a U.S. Middle East negotiator in Republican and Democratic administrations.
You're You're a former negotiator. You hear the things that Israel is saying, that Hamas is saying.

Speaker 192 Do you get the feeling that we're on our way to a deal?

Speaker 194 You know, usually my sense is

Speaker 194 pretty negative given the gaps between Israel and Hamas over the last couple of years.

Speaker 194 But yeah, I think we are at least on the way to the release of hostages in exchange probably, probably for an end to Israel's comprehensive military campaign in Gaza.

Speaker 194 Beyond that, it is really difficult to say because both the yes, but from Israel and the yes, but for sure

Speaker 194 from Hamas to the president's 20 points basically reflect still

Speaker 194 the impossibility right now of reconciling what the Israelis want for an end state and what Hamas does. But I think, John,

Speaker 194 closer than ever, although in Arab-Israeli-Israeli-Palestinian negotiations, ever is a kind of a problematic idea.

Speaker 192 Explain what the sticking points are on each side. What in the deal is Hamas not crazy about? What in the deal is Israel not terribly excited about?

Speaker 194 I think both are not

Speaker 194 excited about any of it, except the president is the most excited, because what he is going to be able to accomplish if it holds is the return of all the hostages, living and dead,

Speaker 194 and likely, as I mentioned, an end to Israel's comprehensive military campaign in Gaza.

Speaker 194 Hamas wants to survive, and they will be looking for two commitments that I don't think this Israeli government will be willing to give.

Speaker 67 Well, I think the statehood part is

Speaker 60 the big carrot, which will never take place.

Speaker 3 Yeah, well, all Trump, it seems, if you listen to this guy, that all Trump really wants to accomplish is stop.

Speaker 117 Yes, stop the killing,

Speaker 3 stop, and then, you know, let's just stop.

Speaker 3 And so, but, but there's a key, but it also, as it will be revealed in the next couple of clips, there is Trump does have a lot more leverage over Netanyahu than people know about.

Speaker 194 Withdrawal all Israeli forces from Gaza and a formal end to the war where the Israelis will not continue to exercise the right to preempt or prevent if Hamas resurges. As far as Mr.

Speaker 194 Netanyahu is concerned, he wanted quote-unquote total victory, as he has maintained these many months, which would have meant the end of Hamas as an organized military organization.

Speaker 194 I think he probably,

Speaker 194 the Israeli Defense Forces have achieved that.

Speaker 194 What they have not achieved, and I think this is going to be extremely difficult, is the end of Hamas's political influence in Gaza and its existence as an insurgency.

Speaker 194 So again, Netanyahu's end state and Hamas's are still, in my judgment, mutually irreconcilable. This is happening.
Yes, Hamas is under pressure. It's happening.
Yes, the Arabs are more united.

Speaker 194 But it is happening for one primary reason. You have an American president.

Speaker 194 I was part of administrations from Jimmy Carter to Bush 43. You have an administration that

Speaker 194 president that has exercised unprecedented pressure. on an Israeli prime minister.

Speaker 194 Not since Eisenhower, who threatened David Ben-Gurion with political and economic sanctions, has Has an American president been this tough with an Israeli prime minister and actually threatened a quote or else.

Speaker 194 And this Israeli prime minister, since he needs Donald Trump to wage a successful election campaign to remain prime minister, probably in the spring or maybe

Speaker 194 the fall of 2026, couldn't say no.

Speaker 48 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 98 Don't worry.

Speaker 145 We'll get you in jail, Bibi, unless you send the boys from Shabbat on Ahmedi.

Speaker 3 Which won't happen.

Speaker 61 Of course not.

Speaker 19 That's a good clue. That's good.

Speaker 152 That accentuates the point.

Speaker 3 Yes, and he wraps it

Speaker 3 with less of an

Speaker 3 accentuation here.

Speaker 192 Is that surprising given the relationship we saw between Mr. Trump and Mr.
Netanyahu during Mr. Trump's first term?

Speaker 192 And also, we keep hearing Netanyahu say Israel has had no better friend in the White House than Donald Trump.

Speaker 194 I mean, Trump fashions himself as the most pro-Israeli president in human history.

Speaker 194 And the reality is, during Trump 1.0, I think Donald Trump created what I would describe as a sugar high for the Israelis. He applied no pressure, ample amounts of honey, but no vinegar.

Speaker 194 This time around, given the fact that he wanted to claim success in not ending the war, Let's be clear. The war between Israel and Hamas is going to go on.

Speaker 194 But Trump, like in Ukraine, wanted to end the fighting, but not the war.

Speaker 194 Here, he's going to get the hostages out, most likely, and he will ameliorate or diminish the comprehensive military campaign that the Israelis have waged over the last year, where they now occupy 75 to 80 percent of Gaza.

Speaker 194 Where the Israelis are going to withdraw to? Will Hamas's weapons be decommissioned, as it says in the president's proposal? Is there going to be an Arab stabilization force?

Speaker 194 Will aid humanitarian assistance and reconstruction to provide 2 million Palestinians finally with a secure source of potable water, sanitation, access to proper medical care, and enough food?

Speaker 194 All of those issues, all of them, remain to be negotiated.

Speaker 40 It's the best of all scenarios.

Speaker 23 Stop the killing.

Speaker 63 Keep the threat of war going so we can continue to sell stuff.

Speaker 85 That's what we do.

Speaker 73 do yeah that's why apac is still around we can continue to sell i guess sign off got to build this got to do this we're doing in europe too it's coming later i'm going to interject with two quick rubio clips from this morning uh he did all the morning shows this is uh man hands welcome mr secretary i want to read point 19 of the president's peace plan i'll put it up so folks can see it it says quote while gaza redevelopment advances and when the palestinian authority reform program is faithfully carried out the conditions may finally be in place for a credible pathway to Palestinian self-determination and statehood, which we recognize as the aspiration of the Palestinian people.

Speaker 73 Does the Trump administration now support Palestinian statehood, Mr. Secretary?

Speaker 136 Well, look, first of all, that provision was very important to the countries that signed on with us and Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar, et cetera. They all really, that's a very important point to them.

Speaker 136 I think the most important point to read out of that is that you have to have somebody to turn it over to, right? Someone that you can hand that over to.

Speaker 136 We've always said that if there's going to be a two-state solution, it has to be negotiated with Israel. It has to make sure that Israel's security is taken into account.

Speaker 136 And so I would argue that I wouldn't say this is a new policy position. What I would say is you want to be able to have in Gaza a place that Israel has no interest in governing Gaza.

Speaker 136 They want to turn it over to somebody,

Speaker 136 some organization that will govern it that will not build tunnels and sponsor terrorism and come across the line and kidnap, rape, and murder Israelis.

Speaker 34 That's who they want to turn it over to.

Speaker 136 And right now that doesn't exist. That has to be built.

Speaker 10 But Mr.

Speaker 182 Secretary, we need you to say that you are for a Palestinian state.

Speaker 73 But Mr. Secretary, in terms of where the administration stands, yes or no, does the Trump administration support?

Speaker 136 That's not a yes or no question. That's a process.
No, but that's not a yes or no question. That's a process.

Speaker 136 Ultimately, at the end of the day, we've always said this has been the consistent position of this administration, of myself, and of a lot of people that have watched this for a very long time.

Speaker 136 In order for that aspiration to even be credible, it has to be realistic.

Speaker 136 We can't have a Palestinian state that's governed by Hamas or by some terrorist organization whose stated purpose for existence is the destruction of the Jewish state. That will never work.

Speaker 136 Until Gaza is governed by people that are not interested in destroying Israel, until there are no security threats emanating against Israel from Gaza, you're not going to forget about statehood.

Speaker 136 You're not going to have peace. So we have to create the conditions for that.
That's going to take a while,

Speaker 136 and that's going to be part of what these negotiations are about in the days to come. But right now, the priority, number one, is to get the hostages released.

Speaker 136 If we can't even get an agreement on the hostages being released, you ain't going to have long-term peace here. So, let's get that peace done.

Speaker 136 It's the most important, and then we can move to phase two, and it'll give momentum to the rest of the effort. But this is not going to be easy.
No one said this is going to be easy.

Speaker 136 We are dealing with something that's been going on for a very long time.

Speaker 48 Yeah,

Speaker 19 there you go.

Speaker 52 That's the 20-point plan.

Speaker 57 And all the Arab

Speaker 52 where is Onimus of Dog Patch?

Speaker 170 Where's a dude named Muhammad?

Speaker 71 We need some boots on the ground.

Speaker 28 What is Iran thinking?

Speaker 3 He'd give us some information.

Speaker 3 He's probably floating around. He's probably part of it.

Speaker 32 He's in Doha.

Speaker 72 He's in Doha at the moment.

Speaker 3 So we have

Speaker 3 I want to play this.

Speaker 3 This is the NPR version of what we play for PBS, but I only think I have to play clip one here, which is because they decided something came down.

Speaker 3 Now, most of these operations, these large-scale operations, whether it's the New York Times, the Associated Press, or NPR, PBS, they all have style guides.

Speaker 3 And so you have to keep an eye on the style guides. In other words, the style guide will tell you as a writer or a reporter what terms you can use.

Speaker 21 Ah, yes.

Speaker 3 And how to put them. That's how you get, you know, a birthing person

Speaker 3 shows up kind of thing.

Speaker 114 And everyone's all of a sudden saying birthing person.

Speaker 8 Pregnant people, people, pregnant people,

Speaker 3 stuff like that.

Speaker 19 Front hole.

Speaker 1 Front hole.

Speaker 3 So the style guys.

Speaker 3 And I just caught this, and I see if you can catch it.

Speaker 3 It's kind of a way I edited it is kind of a giveaway, but I thought this was quite interesting. This is the NPR one clip.

Speaker 197 Reaction to President Trump's plan to end the nearly two-year war in Gaza is being viewed cautiously by residents there.

Speaker 197 Both Israel and Hamas say they endorse Trump's 20-point plan, but details have yet to be worked out. NPR's Kerry Khan reports.

Speaker 198 Residents in Gaza, like Iman Abu Akhlan, a 48-year-old mother of four, says the news of a deal is some relief.

Speaker 198 It's like we've been bottled up so tightly, and now we can take a breath. Just a small one, as we are still living in a nightmare, she says.

Speaker 198 Israel's military says it's getting ready to implement Trump's plan and has moved to a defensive-only position, according to an official not authorized to speak to the media on the record.

Speaker 198 However, Gaza health officials say airstrikes continued overnight, killing and wounding Gazans.

Speaker 81 Okay.

Speaker 3 Killing Gazans, not Palestinians.

Speaker 81 Oh,

Speaker 22 good catch.

Speaker 52 Oh, it's already shifting.

Speaker 3 It's starting to shift. Now, we'll see if we start hearing the term Gazans

Speaker 3 instead of Palestinians.

Speaker 67 It's like saying New Yorkers.

Speaker 3 Swapping it, you know, swapping out a term here.

Speaker 19 Wow, very good.

Speaker 135 There's a reason for it.

Speaker 83 Very good catch.

Speaker 3 I found that to be that really stopped me in my tracks. That's where I ended the clip with it.
Yeah.

Speaker 53 But that's good.

Speaker 3 There's a part two to this, if you want to hear it. It just kind of wraps it up.

Speaker 31 Well, it was very short, I think.

Speaker 43 So

Speaker 32 I think so.

Speaker 198 Israel is preparing a team for face-to-face talks as the U.S. also sends envoys to Cairo, according to two people briefed but not authorized to speak publicly.

Speaker 65 Okay, of course. Sources.

Speaker 3 Yeah, nothing there.

Speaker 19 Meanwhile,

Speaker 84 this Gen Z

Speaker 60 color revolution around the world is very interesting.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I have a clip on this, too.

Speaker 52 Okay, you want to play yours first?

Speaker 3 Well, mine is just about specific. It's a specific one of these Gen Z.

Speaker 3 We picked this up when it started in Nepal.

Speaker 3 This is the Gen Z 212.

Speaker 192 Morocco's biggest anti-government process in the years are deadly this week.

Speaker 192 The demonstrations are led by a coalition of Moroccan youth who call themselves Gen Z 212, named for the nation's dialing code.

Speaker 192 The group says the government is pouring billions of dollars into infrastructure for the 2030 FIFA World Cup while neglecting domestic issues like health care and education.

Speaker 192 Demonstrations began across Morocco a week ago and some have become violent. This week, three protesters were killed.

Speaker 19 So

Speaker 103 the Nepal thing was actually staring me in the face because, you know, I looked at the map, Nepal between India and China.

Speaker 13 Oh, hello.

Speaker 36 They wanted to join BRICS.

Speaker 52 Well, no, you're not joining BRICS.

Speaker 84 You're not going to connect India and China to make it a whole BRICS segment there.

Speaker 171 You're not going to do that.

Speaker 25 We're going to send the Gen Zs on you.

Speaker 127 I have a little bit longer clip of Morocco, which is still going on, the Gen Z 212.

Speaker 26 And what's very obvious is that it's it's very much like the BLM riots.

Speaker 84 You get everybody out there for social means, like, hey, you know, it's like, we're sending all our money to Israel.

Speaker 52 We're against that. We don't want that.

Speaker 72 And then you send in the agitators, the people with the umbrellas who start smashing the windows and throwing the firebombs.

Speaker 84 And then you've got a mess.

Speaker 30 And then it's still the Gen Zs who are very upset about how the government is spending money and not on them.

Speaker 199 Anger has not abated in Morocco. For nights on end, protesters have united against the government, demanding better public services.
In some instances, it has turned violent.

Speaker 199 Buildings have been set alight and properties destroyed. Many citizens feel the isolated incidents undermine demonstrators' legitimate demands.

Speaker 157 We support the protests but reject the destruction.

Speaker 200 If we all want to protect public freedom, demand dignity, and call for social justice, we must understand that social justice means giving everyone the rights.

Speaker 100 As a Moroccan youth, I reject this ugly behavior of destruction and violence. Through peaceful protests, we came out demanding our legitimate rights to proper health care and education.

Speaker 199 The initial peaceful gatherings began on Saturday, loosely organized by Morocco's Gen Z 212 group.

Speaker 55 So I found it was mind-blowing on

Speaker 28 this France 24.

Speaker 48 Yes.

Speaker 103 They had a whole segment on Gen Z, on all the Gen Z revolutions, which I thought was very interesting.

Speaker 190 What do all these protests have in common? Yes, they are all protests across Asia and Africa, but there is something more. Corruption, lack of jobs, poverty, block of social media platforms.

Speaker 190 These are just some of the problems stretching from Sri Lanka to the Philippines, Bangladesh, Nepal, Morocco, and Madagascar.

Speaker 190 Protests have been ongoing for months, all starting in one main way, led by Gen Z, the generation born between 1997 and 2012 and organized through social media.

Speaker 190 In Morocco, protests were launched by the anonymous youth collective called Gen Z two hundred one two on the platform Discord, referring both to Generation Z and the country styling code two hundred one two.

Speaker 190 The more than one hundred twenty thousand members demand reforms in health and education and criticize the sums invested in the twenty thirty World Cup at the expense of public services.

Speaker 190 In Kenya, with the hashtag RutoMustGo and the Telegram group Genzi River2, Gen Z has mobilized against unemployment, tax hikes, and high living costs, sweeping protests across Nairobi and even breaching the walls of parliament.

Speaker 190 Madagascar, one of the world's poorest nations, has seen Gen Z Group rise up against blackouts and water shortages, leading to the dissolution of the government, but also leaving at least 22 people dead.

Speaker 190 In Nepal, Gen Z outrage erupted after thousands of young people were posted images and videos online showing the luxurious lifestyles of politicians' children, shared with hashtags like Nipple Peeds and Nipple Babies.

Speaker 190 Despite social media ban, youth has organized mass protests against corruption and inequality.

Speaker 190 And the Philippine have seen the student and youth network Tamana, along with others, leading the recent marches in Manila over alleged corruption in flood control and infrastructures projects.

Speaker 190 Everywhere, the youth-led undress, the use of digital platforms for organizations, the cross-border inspiration, these mobilizations do not necessarily or immediately result in lasting reforms.

Speaker 190 But it's clear that this generation doesn't want to survive in a falling system. They want to voice their grievances and transform it radically.

Speaker 8 So, this is some bull crap right here.

Speaker 19 Oh, Gen Z,

Speaker 145 the Gen Z is the most wussy generation ever.

Speaker 19 They're not starting any revolt.

Speaker 3 This has op written all over, and it has an intelligence agency written all over it. But which one

Speaker 19 and why? I'm going to tell you.

Speaker 28 Asia and Africa.

Speaker 9 Who has the interest in Asia and Africa?

Speaker 71 It's always been the British Crown, Canada.

Speaker 26 I'll give the North Sea Nexus a break on this one.

Speaker 145 So I was corrected by many people about Discord because all this, oh, it starts on Discord.

Speaker 16 It starts on Discord.

Speaker 19 And I said it's an open source platform.

Speaker 170 I was corrected by a number of producers.

Speaker 44 No, no, there's a lot of open source projects that are run and managed on Discord.

Speaker 23 But Discord is a complete company product.

Speaker 38 You get it for free.

Speaker 152 Now, when you get something for free, you're actually the product.

Speaker 60 We know that.

Speaker 19 The business model is very odd of Discord.

Speaker 138 You can have turbo

Speaker 42 Discord where you can actually give the company money and raise money for your Discord server.

Speaker 116 You can get extra benefits and

Speaker 116 more expansive features.

Speaker 26 They do have some advertising.

Speaker 29 I'm looking at this company, and it's founded by two nerds who are gamers.

Speaker 38 But

Speaker 9 if you look at their timeline on their Aboots page, spring 2025, Jason, he's one of the co-founders, one of the nerds, announces his transition from CEO to board member and advisor, and Humam Saknini becomes Discord's new CEO.

Speaker 28 Saknini brings deep gaming industry experience from leadership roles at Activision, Blizzard, and King.

Speaker 62 So I go look at this guy.

Speaker 71 Well, isn't this guy very interesting?

Speaker 112 He initially worked for the investment bank Nesbit Burns, Canadian Crown, for the Department of Finance in Canada.

Speaker 28 This is a London City of London guy.

Speaker 9 Participated at the 20th annual meeting of the Canadian Economics Association in Calgary, authored three of the Department of Finance's fiscal policy and economic analysis branch working papers.

Speaker 9 He argued in favor of pre-funding pension plans.

Speaker 152 This sounds like a gamer to me.

Speaker 9 He later founded and co-directed the financial technology group firm IS Group,

Speaker 160 which provided services to mutual funds and hedge funds.

Speaker 103 Let's look at his education, shall we?

Speaker 42 Graduated Bachelor of Arts in Economics from the University of Western Ontario before receiving a Master of Arts in Economics from the Queen's University.

Speaker 160 He earned a Masters of Business Administration degree from Yale.

Speaker 145 This guy is an op.

Speaker 42 And the minute he comes in, not three months later, all of a sudden, Discord is the platform of choice for all of these Gen Z revolutions.

Speaker 67 There's your op.

Speaker 124 It's blatant right there.

Speaker 26 Spent eight years as partner at McKinsey and Company.

Speaker 55 Yeah, you know what? This guy absolutely a gamer.

Speaker 9 He joined London-based King in April 2016 as chief financial officer.

Speaker 42 And of course, that's where he led the acquisition of Activision Blizzard.

Speaker 72 And you know what?

Speaker 3 Well, I don't think he's an op. He's a spook.

Speaker 23 Well, it's a spook part of the op.

Speaker 125 And it's clearly the Brits who are doing this.

Speaker 71 They have all the interests historically in Asia and Africa.

Speaker 55 It's like, okay, we see what you're doing.

Speaker 112 And they have just as much benefit to not seeing Brick succeed as anybody else.

Speaker 103 They still have the pound.

Speaker 21 It's still a big deal to them.

Speaker 97 So be very aware of Discord Gen Z revolutions in our own country, which will be a bunch of soy boys and girls going,

Speaker 19 what do we want?

Speaker 141 We want democracy.

Speaker 3 When do we want it?

Speaker 81 We want it whenever you give it to us.

Speaker 151 Yeah. And then

Speaker 3 we have a lot of Gen Zers that listen to this show that more than happy to tell us what they think.

Speaker 16 Yes, I'm looking forward to it.

Speaker 3 And

Speaker 3 calling them out as a bunch of wimps is probably not the not necessarily 100% true.

Speaker 60 I'm generalizing, obviously.

Speaker 16 I'm generalizing.

Speaker 3 You're generalizing.

Speaker 24 Yeah, of course.

Speaker 60 Obviously, I'm generalizing.

Speaker 81 Meanwhile,

Speaker 97 we've got Europe.

Speaker 3 But I'm with you.

Speaker 3 I don't believe that there is this 212 thing and all the rest of it in these obscure countries why where you have this where they're rioting and there's this it's just obviously been co-opted is the old we get some old terms here yes old communist terms of co-option these guys are co-opted in some way and they're got leaders it's not leaderless and it's but that leader is probably not gen z at all and the whole thing is corrupted well sure gen z is a generalization by itself it's like boomer like all boomers i mean i'm not even officially well okay i don't feel like a boomer but put me as a boomer gen x whatever.

Speaker 3 I feel like a teenager.

Speaker 28 Finally, finally, an opening for the show.

Speaker 60 I've been waiting for it.

Speaker 3 Well, yeah, you have

Speaker 3 the sense of humor for it.

Speaker 93 So, meanwhile, let's psych up the European Union a little bit more because we still need to borrow all these hundreds of millions for the omnibus, for the omnibus to get the drone wall implemented.

Speaker 18 We need the drone wall.

Speaker 59 We need more money, more money, more money.

Speaker 64 I have an idea.

Speaker 85 Oh, check this out.

Speaker 188 Munich airport says it is gradually resuming flights after more drones were spotted early this Saturday.

Speaker 188 The airport shut down Friday evening for the second day in a row over drone sightings, with dozens of flights and more than 6,000 passengers affected. More delays are expected throughout the day.

Speaker 188 Airports in Denmark, Norway, and Poland have all recently suspended flights due to unidentified drones. Some European countries have directly blamed Russia, but Moscow has denied allegations.

Speaker 163 Here's Germany's interior minister.

Speaker 196 We are in a race between drone threats and drone defense.

Speaker 66 It's a race.

Speaker 196 We want to and must win this race.

Speaker 196 That is why it is important to take the necessary measures at the European level to upgrade our technology, pool our expertise,

Speaker 196 and ensure that drone defense technology is also developed in Europe

Speaker 196 in cooperation with partners from Israel and Ukraine.

Speaker 19 Bring in Israel.

Speaker 115 Perfect.

Speaker 137 Yeah, we need the drone technology.

Speaker 84 Oh, my goodness.

Speaker 145 Yeah, drones. Yeah, we have anti-drones because that'll stop an ICBM.

Speaker 57 Oh,

Speaker 57 and then everyone, oh, flights are canceled.

Speaker 52 It's because of the Russian drones.

Speaker 22 What a psyop.

Speaker 150 And then Ursula, the moron that she is,

Speaker 103 we're going to call her Hair Ursula from now on.

Speaker 116 Hair Ursula.

Speaker 19 She...

Speaker 3 Well, you could be spelled H-A-I-R.

Speaker 97 Oh, that's a good one, too.

Speaker 15 Hair Ursula.

Speaker 52 She's She's got, you know, we're not done, Europe.

Speaker 82 We're not done.

Speaker 36 The AI race is just getting started.

Speaker 82 It's not too late for us to get in on this scam.

Speaker 183 Too often, I hear that Europe is late to the AI race. The sceptics say we will repeat the main mistakes of the past and another generation of European talents will be forced to leave.

Speaker 183 I strongly disagree, not only because the AI race is still warming up, but also because I've seen what Europeans can do when we set our eyes on a goal.

Speaker 103 What has Europe done for me lately?

Speaker 42 What fantastic technology has Europe brought us?

Speaker 158 Well, you know, when AI is in the loop.

Speaker 183 Because when AI is in the loop, we reach better solutions. Fast, reliable, affordable.

Speaker 11 Reliable and affordable.

Speaker 19 It's safe and effective.

Speaker 183 Some of your startups are already pioneering it.

Speaker 19 I don't know of a single one.

Speaker 183 Let me tell you, I'm a medical doctor by training. I'm amazed what AI can do in medicines.
AI can assist doctors in diagnosing cancer much, much earlier. Or accelerate innovative medicines discovery.

Speaker 160 The big promise of AI, innovative medicine discovery and detecting cancer.

Speaker 3 So what she's talking about is what's it got to do with Europe?

Speaker 19 It's all Ellison. It's all Oracle.

Speaker 9 That's the promise of Stargate.

Speaker 36 But you know what?

Speaker 29 Europe can do it.

Speaker 183 We will spare no effort to make Europe an AI continent.

Speaker 19 That means no expense.

Speaker 183 We will spare no effort to make Europe an AI continent. We will spare no effort to make you choose Europe, because this is the great mission of our times.

Speaker 183 Thank you for inviting me.

Speaker 34 Long live Europe.

Speaker 34 Sig hi! Long win friends!

Speaker 34 Thank you! Sigil.

Speaker 183 Sig Long live Europe.

Speaker 34 Thank you.

Speaker 81 My Lord.

Speaker 87 That is insane.

Speaker 3 Well, at least she didn't mention quantum.

Speaker 124 No, well, I haven't seen the whole speech.

Speaker 16 I'm sure she did.

Speaker 117 Now,

Speaker 69 before

Speaker 23 we move on, I just need to stop because we have now reached peak AI.

Speaker 179 This is an amazing thing that is happening.

Speaker 71 And this is Sora 2.

Speaker 18 Have you heard of, seen it, or are you aware of Sora?

Speaker 3 Oh, yeah, but JC has brought me up to speed on it.

Speaker 81 Sora 2.

Speaker 81 I have

Speaker 160 a two-parter here from Shibiash, Shibiush, talking to a wired reporter, because, of course, if you really want to know what's going on in technology,

Speaker 67 wired is still relevant.

Speaker 8 Sora is it, baby.

Speaker 126 Today, we're announcing the Sora app, powered by the all-new Sora 2.

Speaker 142 Well, that may may look and sound just like OpenAI CEO Sam Altman, but it's actually a video generated completely by AI using the company's new app, Sora 2.

Speaker 142 OpenAI says it allows people to create and share AI-generated video clips featuring themselves and their friends.

Speaker 142 Now, the clips posted by the company online show how unrealistic scenarios can look hyper-realistic using this tool.

Speaker 201 All right, I gotta bring in Zoe Schiffer, the director of business and industry at Wired Magazine.

Speaker 57 Zoe, these videos are incredible.

Speaker 19 Tell us about

Speaker 203 my tool and what people can do with it.

Speaker 191 Yeah, so OpenAI first released Sora, their video generation model, about a year ago.

Speaker 191 And since then, a lot of other companies have kind of jumped into the space and the technology has been moving really, really fast.

Speaker 191 During this time, OpenAI CEO Sam Altman basically directed the team to start working on an app.

Speaker 191 And the thinking was that just like ChatGPT allowed people to kind of realize the potential of generated text, creating kind of a TikTok style app to watch and create AI generated videos would be like a huge unlock to make people realize the potential for video generation.

Speaker 135 Now, I have some analysis about this Sora 2 app, but first we just have to finish with this wired reporter.

Speaker 51 I think you and I universally would agree that most technology reporters are whoers for the technology companies.

Speaker 9 And when you actually say that you're not, that's like a red flag.

Speaker 125 Yeah, you got to wonder what some of these Hollywood directors are thinking about some of these videos because they look so realistic.

Speaker 201 So realistic.

Speaker 35 You put yourself in avatar in some of these big blockbuster films.

Speaker 142 It's amazing to see what they're able to do.

Speaker 203 Are they approaching, though, the safety concerns as this technology becomes more and more advanced?

Speaker 125 I mean, there's some scary stuff that can come out of this. Scary stuff.

Speaker 191 Yeah, absolutely. And far be it from me to like act as an open AI spokesperson, but as someone who's reported on this company pretty deeply.

Speaker 143 What does that even mean?

Speaker 51 Far be it from me to act as an open AI spokesperson.

Speaker 29 Why would you even say that?

Speaker 3 Far be it from me, which is a phrase

Speaker 3 I don't think I've ever used in my life, but I've heard it. Far be it from me, which is just crazy if you think of, if you try to figure out what it means.
I would be an AI spokesperson

Speaker 84 to act as an AI spokesperson.

Speaker 36 Yeah,

Speaker 3 it's almost like a scripted comment.

Speaker 25 Well, she's been read in and she's spouting the company line.

Speaker 51 That's what I think it means.

Speaker 66 Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 191 And far be it from me to act as an open AI spokesperson, but as someone who's reported on this company pretty deeply, I will say that I actually.

Speaker 21 Which means she's got inside knowledge, which means she has to be able to do that.

Speaker 3 Yeah, and then she uses a performative,

Speaker 3 I will say. Why don't you just say it? Why do you say, I will say, and then you say it? Why don't you just say it?

Speaker 66 Exactly.

Speaker 191 Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 191 And far be it from me to like act as an open AI spokesperson, but as someone who's reported on this company pretty deeply, I will say that I actually do think they're taking these concerns extremely seriously.

Speaker 191 Earlier this week, the company rolled out parental controls.

Speaker 204 to help parents, you know, have a little more oversight into their the accounts of their children and specifically their their teenagers.

Speaker 191 When the Sora app rolled out, they like kind of baked in some of those parental controls specifically to allow parents to stop their kids from like doom scrolling.

Speaker 191 So I think that they're trying to be proactive and get ahead of at least some of the major concerns.

Speaker 142 And to be clear, this is an app that you can use.

Speaker 203 Anybody can use on their phone or tablet or computer, correct?

Speaker 15 Yeah. Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 204 So you can download it now in the app store.

Speaker 191 I think at least today you need a code from someone that's using it, but it's already kind of taken off. There's a lot of people jumping in.
There are some restrictions.

Speaker 191 Like, if you try and generate a video of, say, Taylor Swift or even like Darth Vader, it'll stop you.

Speaker 191 It'll say that, like, there are, you know, copyright restrictions that are baked in and it won't allow you to do that.

Speaker 107 Yeah, her full performative was, um, I will say, I actually do believe that's a, that's a, that's a mouthful.

Speaker 57 So, this is a brilliant move by Open AI

Speaker 42 because

Speaker 79 this is going to be high, like you'd already see it, highly addictive.

Speaker 60 People love it. Scaramanga got put out of business in like one fell swoop, or possibly he can open a business, depending on how he, how he manages his time.

Speaker 20 Um, the whole point of this, if you look at the app, what is the first thing it wants you to do?

Speaker 96 Scan your face.

Speaker 26 This thing is fresh content for open AI's large language models.

Speaker 45 And every numb nut is going to do this.

Speaker 11 Oh, yeah, I put myself in this movie.

Speaker 11 Let me show you my face. Yeah, you got it? You got it?

Speaker 35 Oh, look at this.

Speaker 72 Of course, they're going to be sued into oblivion, but by then they'll already have what they need.

Speaker 70 They needed fresh

Speaker 26 photographic, videographic content because they know where it's going.

Speaker 96 They know that this whole notion of it's for business, nah.

Speaker 21 They need to be generating video and pictures and they need new content.

Speaker 14 And I will never put my face on it.

Speaker 43 I would say, I think if there's pictures of us out there, I think you should just fill the entire internet with slop of us, but I'll never put my face on it

Speaker 145 because Taylor Swift shouldn't have any more protection than I have by

Speaker 45 my likeness.

Speaker 51 So I think this is a move that is blowing everybody out of the water.

Speaker 21 Google is going to try and run and catch up, and it's going to cost them more and more and more money.

Speaker 96 And that's where the next trillion dollars is going to have to come.

Speaker 72 Because we're almost there, boys.

Speaker 52 If we just had another trillion dollars, it would be really, one of our

Speaker 3 young friends, she works for a, worked for an AI recruiting company in Austin.

Speaker 51 Not that they were recruiting AI people, but

Speaker 42 they used AI to match

Speaker 156 job openings with candidates.

Speaker 42 And she said, it was 30, 70.

Speaker 29 30% will be great.

Speaker 42 70% would just not work. And they're about to close the doors.
They just couldn't make it work.

Speaker 93 They always kept saying to their investors, if we just have a little bit more, we're almost there.

Speaker 151 We can almost do perfect matches every single time.

Speaker 97 You can't.

Speaker 55 The stuff is hallucinating.

Speaker 19 You can't.

Speaker 36 You can't get 100%.

Speaker 125 You can get maybe up to 70%, maybe 60.

Speaker 168 This is a losing proposition.

Speaker 41 So Altman just extended his life, I don't know, his business life by maybe several years because this thing, I think it's going to overtake TikTok.

Speaker 20 It's, it's, this is, you want a dick?

Speaker 3 I disagree completely.

Speaker 42 You disagree with it, it's going to overtake TikTok?

Speaker 3 Yeah, because it's a piece of crap.

Speaker 135 I have watched the, I got the lecture about this.

Speaker 3 I was shown all the videos and the pro and even JC admits that this stuff is not watchable. It's, yeah, it's very good.

Speaker 3 I mean, you see very high resolution images of something happening that doesn't exist in real life. And a lot of it looks like this has to be a real person,

Speaker 3 but it's not. But it is, there were some of these videos, they were 30 seconds long and you couldn't watch five seconds before you were bored stiff.

Speaker 52 I have a different opinion.

Speaker 3 A real, a real good TikTok video of a fat chick falling on her butt off of a bicycle is far superior to the garbage that this thing is producing.

Speaker 44 But the difference is you can put yourself and your friends in the world.

Speaker 114 Oh, who cares?

Speaker 3 Nobody cares. I think that's I'm not going to, I'm not interested in that.

Speaker 52 But it will be the, no, you're not.

Speaker 170 I'm not either.

Speaker 155 It will be the number one app within the world.

Speaker 19 I don't think a lot.

Speaker 3 We have to assume that we're not alone in our thinking.

Speaker 151 I'm giving you my input.

Speaker 69 I'm giving you my opinion.

Speaker 3 Agree with me that we're not interested in putting our faces on all this sorts of things.

Speaker 19 We aren't interested in that. We have to assume that we are.

Speaker 3 You and I are in the majority.

Speaker 55 You don't even use a phone.

Speaker 75 So

Speaker 82 you're in the minority.

Speaker 82 You are in the minority.

Speaker 20 You don't do self-defense.

Speaker 3 I am not in the minority

Speaker 3 when it comes to not using the phone or keeping it in the drawer to be straight about it.

Speaker 3 And you bring it up with anybody, they fall in love. Oh, my God.
I wish I could do the same thing. I wish, I I wish, I wish.
I am in the majority. I just want to be the only one to follow through.

Speaker 77 Oh, okay.

Speaker 52 Okay.

Speaker 33 You are the only drug addict who got out.

Speaker 76 Yes.

Speaker 52 You are a winner.

Speaker 165 Winning.

Speaker 19 John C. Dvorak is a winner.

Speaker 82 But that is not the majority of people. The majority of people are losers and they are addicted to their phones.

Speaker 66 And now they can put themselves into the movie.

Speaker 77 Ah, no.

Speaker 145 This is going to fly.

Speaker 19 But we'll see. We'll see.

Speaker 29 I'm willing to admit defeat.

Speaker 151 I'll give it one month.

Speaker 60 This is the number one app.

Speaker 14 Everyone's talking about it.

Speaker 36 Every news show, all these news.

Speaker 135 All these news.

Speaker 3 Well, you know, you can make something the number one app, even get these news idiots to push it together.

Speaker 135 Because everybody fall apart.

Speaker 171 Ego, man, is ego.

Speaker 81 People love themselves.

Speaker 55 That's what the whole selfie thing is.

Speaker 24 An entire device was created.

Speaker 3 I'm just doing the selfie thing. It is bothersome.

Speaker 55 It's a selfie movie.

Speaker 54 They're going to love it.

Speaker 32 People will love it.

Speaker 19 They will love it.

Speaker 3 And it's completely free.

Speaker 159 How much.

Speaker 3 This guy is burning cash.

Speaker 42 That's why they need to have this be successful, and they will make it successful.

Speaker 54 Come hook or crook.

Speaker 31 Oh, there's a Jew reference for you.

Speaker 160 They're going to make it successful, Altman.

Speaker 43 Taking over, taking over.

Speaker 21 Everybody's going to be going to be psyoping everybody with his Sora 2. That's right.
Everybody loves Israel.

Speaker 42 They're going to make it the number one app because he needs another couple of trillion dollars to finally get to the business stuff that's actually going to work, which we know it just won't.

Speaker 165 In the meantime, Spotify removes.

Speaker 3 Well, you have to give the guy credit for keeping

Speaker 32 the air.

Speaker 19 I give him a lot of credit.

Speaker 3 He's got a bunch of plates. He's spinning them around.
There's another one. Here's another one.

Speaker 24 That's what you do as an entrepreneur.

Speaker 3 How long does this go on?

Speaker 24 Hey, as long as he can keep putting plates up, he can spin them.

Speaker 33 And Spotify,

Speaker 124 now they're in trouble.

Speaker 19 Spotify's in trouble because they had to.

Speaker 3 They keep saying that, but they keep making money.

Speaker 158 Well,

Speaker 52 that's kind of the point.

Speaker 97 They deleted 75 million songs from their catalog.

Speaker 32 And the reason they did that is because the majority shareholders of Spotify, even in the public markets, are the publishing companies.

Speaker 84 And the publishing company is like, hold on a second.

Speaker 33 We can't have this.

Speaker 82 We can't have every Tom, Dick, and Harry making our money off of this, off of these AI songs.

Speaker 102 So I think that you're going to see some other platforms picking this up.

Speaker 19 I would, if I had a music platform, I'd be like, all AI all the time.

Speaker 50 Bring it over here. Make money.

Speaker 165 Make money with your songs.

Speaker 3 So you think that Spotify made a mistake when they ran these fake bands and they ran them as legit and

Speaker 3 they were found out. And then

Speaker 3 the music publishers making actual music?

Speaker 21 Yeah, the owners.

Speaker 26 The owners got very mad.

Speaker 19 The owners,

Speaker 3 hey, wait a minute.

Speaker 17 Yeah, the true owners.

Speaker 32 They got very mad.

Speaker 3 Well, you know, easy money.

Speaker 19 So I don't know.

Speaker 152 We'll see what Apple and Amazon does.

Speaker 33 But I mean, people were loving this.

Speaker 36 Like, hey, I just made a song.

Speaker 9 It cost me 20 bucks a month to make a thousand songs.

Speaker 137 And I'm making five bucks on royalties.

Speaker 59 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 59 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Yeah.
Hey, you know,

Speaker 3 more trucks.

Speaker 72 I'm monetizing, man.

Speaker 52 I'm monetizing, monetizing my creativity, my prompting creativity.

Speaker 25 Please, more of it. Please fill the internet with as much of this slop as possible.

Speaker 63 Keep it going.

Speaker 43 Just keep it going.

Speaker 160 Nothing is usable.

Speaker 54 I mean, already, if you just, I was looking for,

Speaker 14 I was looking for a story on Nepal with a Gen Z thing and that included Discord.

Speaker 21 Well, you have to wade through at least 15 AI-generated news stories to find something.

Speaker 21 And even then, it's like still dubious.

Speaker 75 It's filling everything up.

Speaker 72 And still,

Speaker 67 the podcast, the industrial complex.

Speaker 33 We need a tag.

Speaker 8 We need to tag this AI. We can't have AI, AI podcasts.

Speaker 94 Please.

Speaker 117 Why?

Speaker 107 Yeah, because the advertisers are getting fleeced.

Speaker 23 That's why the advertisers are getting fleece.

Speaker 3 The advertisers got to get a clue.

Speaker 57 They will.

Speaker 3 They will. They always do.
And then

Speaker 3 they drop off. And, of course, it does a shake out.
You have

Speaker 3 an Armageddon of podcasts. They all go out of business.
The ones that try to make money. And then.

Speaker 3 Then all of a sudden something changes and the advertisers are suckered back. They always get suckered back.

Speaker 66 They will. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Look at these numbers.

Speaker 19 Hey, Bob, have you seen these numbers?

Speaker 3 Bob, I think we got an opportunity here.

Speaker 94 And with that, I want to thank you for your courage.

Speaker 52 Say in the morning to you, the man who put the sea in the one and only AI continent. Say hello, my friend on the other end, the one, the only, Mr.

Speaker 94 John Cena.

Speaker 3 Currently, won't a ship,

Speaker 170 Dog days of summer.

Speaker 51 2158 listening live.

Speaker 42 And they are listening on noagendastream.com, which should be fixed.

Speaker 21 Tell your friends, tell your neighbors everything works again.

Speaker 81 They are trolling along in the troll room, trollroom.io, also noagendastream.com.

Speaker 11 You can use your modern podcast app, which may or may not have some AI slop in it.

Speaker 21 But of course, the biggest downside to podcasting is there's no discovery mechanism.

Speaker 102 So it's also its biggest protection.

Speaker 63 So there's no algo that's shoving podcasts in your face all the time on the podcast apps.

Speaker 76 Yet.

Speaker 41 No,

Speaker 85 it's decentralized.

Speaker 38 It's impossible to happen.

Speaker 60 It's impossible. It will not happen, which is good.

Speaker 51 And the more slop, the more people will want to hear two old dudes yakking away oh it feels so comfortable doesn't it just to hear people make mistakes yeah it does feel kind of good oh they disagree oh no they actually sound emotional about something oh oh my man you are you and your noisemakers oh good lord you and your noisemakers i got another one here

Speaker 21 I've got the sign noisemaker.

Speaker 8 Modern podcast apps, go get yourself one of those.

Speaker 168 It's your protection against AI slop.

Speaker 67 Go to podcastapps.com, pick one up.

Speaker 43 They're all pretty darn good, I would say.

Speaker 70 And with that, of course, you will also be alerted when we go live.

Speaker 41 You can listen live in your podcast app.

Speaker 23 What legacy app does that?

Speaker 52 Let me think.

Speaker 137 None of them.

Speaker 96 And within 90 seconds of publishing, you will be notified as well.

Speaker 20 Which legacy app does that?

Speaker 66 Let me think.

Speaker 97 None of them.

Speaker 63 Of course. That's why you want to be ahead of the times and on top of the news.

Speaker 71 Wasn't that

Speaker 51 New York Daily?

Speaker 19 Was it the Daily Post?

Speaker 2 No, I don't think so.

Speaker 19 Ahead of the

Speaker 32 top of the

Speaker 32 day.

Speaker 63 I lived in New York for a while.

Speaker 31 I remember these things.

Speaker 3 Yeah, the extra E.

Speaker 32 Yes.

Speaker 23 Drop the extra S for savings.

Speaker 42 Dyla mattress.

Speaker 19 I remember that.

Speaker 29 Crazy Eddie's prices are insane.

Speaker 33 So

Speaker 66 the 26th of October will be 18 years that we're doing this podcast.

Speaker 21 And all that time, John's been studying my Tourette's, and he is now an expert, which is amazing.

Speaker 43 I am.

Speaker 21 Because we've only seen each other twice in the last 10 years.

Speaker 3 Yeah, yeah. Well, just once is enough.

Speaker 8 Ditto, right back at you, Bubba.

Speaker 125 So we accept time, talent, or treasure in return for the value that we provide you.

Speaker 42 And we think that after 18 years, people agree.

Speaker 9 Four out of five doctors will say that the No Agenda Show provides value and you can provide that back to us in many different ways.

Speaker 84 Monetary is the one that makes the show guaranteed to continue, but we also accept other things such as AI slop.

Speaker 124 And we get that from our No Agenda artists who are now prompt jockeys.

Speaker 44 And one day, one day, the actual artist will return. You can wait for it.

Speaker 179 When everyone's listening to AI slop songs, eventually, you know, a Ramones comes along or...

Speaker 3 I think they said the same thing about Photoshop.

Speaker 30 Well, clip art, Photoshop, everything.

Speaker 19 And it was all a problem.

Speaker 31 Technology is always a problem.

Speaker 145 We don't want to be Luddites, but there you go.

Speaker 3 Hey, we had a new artist check in.

Speaker 96 He'd only been a no-agenda artist for two weeks.

Speaker 51 And we liked his AI sloppiness.

Speaker 36 His name is Jock 10, J-O-Q-10.

Speaker 19 He did the artwork for episode 1804, which we titled Mucho Retardo.

Speaker 53 We liked that one.

Speaker 18 And it was a fat general in in the submarine.

Speaker 52 He couldn't get in or he couldn't get out.

Speaker 33 And people liked it.

Speaker 19 And we liked it. It's an admiral.

Speaker 50 How do you know it's an admiral?

Speaker 3 Because it's a submarine.

Speaker 60 Oh, thank you. Good point.

Speaker 21 Thank God you know about these things.

Speaker 101 Fat Admiral.

Speaker 65 FA, Fat Admiral.

Speaker 96 And of course, these were uploaded to noagendaartgenerator.com.

Speaker 177 If you're having trouble uploading a piece of art, you need to have the exact dimensions as specified.

Speaker 43 That's just a little little tip for those of you having trouble it needs to be the exact dimensions in order to upload uh and we let me see we looked at a i looked at everything of course there was a lot of uh

Speaker 145 obvious well there was the battle ready from blue acorn that was a fat soldier eating a donut uh i'd say that was probably a close second

Speaker 96 we had uh lots of stairs running up and down you like the atom john adams bug out kit for some reason

Speaker 3 Yeah, it was too small.

Speaker 52 It was too small, but it included a handgun, a revolver, a flashlight, a cracker.

Speaker 3 Like the one cracker.

Speaker 145 Like a Graham cracker kit and some water.

Speaker 97 Let me see, what else was there?

Speaker 3 A lot of sombreros.

Speaker 97 A lot of sombreros, which didn't really work.

Speaker 145 Again, we see people using collapsing models, the mastermind, your models collapsing that you're using.

Speaker 3 Yes, you have to. Yes, Yes, that's right.
We made a point to mention him.

Speaker 3 The mastermind has needs to take his pieces and either put them in Photoshop or someplace to brighten them up, get rid of the, you have a, they're dull.

Speaker 114 Yeah, they're very dull.

Speaker 3 And it's not a big deal. You can put them in a Photoshop, and there's a couple of filters.
You can just pop, make them pop.

Speaker 53 Yeah.

Speaker 160 But it's just interesting to see that there's model collapse.

Speaker 107 Whatever you're using, it's just.

Speaker 3 There's been one or two models that I don't know what he's using, but it's getting worse. It's muddy.

Speaker 122 This is the worst I've ever seen it.

Speaker 25 It's getting worse. And the more this is out there, that's getting worse.

Speaker 3 It's just bad.

Speaker 42 Oh, you are so optimistic about your Uber Lord, your silicone.

Speaker 3 I'm the optimist.

Speaker 19 Why don't you go live with Sam Altman?

Speaker 26 I'm sure he'd love to have you.

Speaker 19 Why don't you just go hang out?

Speaker 72 Get a room with Sam Altman, you.

Speaker 52 Noagenda.

Speaker 96 Artgenerator.com is where you can upload your slop.

Speaker 26 And we do appreciate people doing it at all, to be honest.

Speaker 50 Um,

Speaker 135 I'm already looking at today's art.

Speaker 125 There's plenty of opportunity to win, people.

Speaker 82 Plenty of opportunity, just typing in drone EU flag, no agenda, is not going to get you a winning nod.

Speaker 140 That's not going to happen.

Speaker 103 As part of this value-for-value model, we, of course, want to thank our financial supporters who all they do is

Speaker 3 you see man hands by Blue Haycoin.

Speaker 19 Hold on a second.

Speaker 80 No,

Speaker 97 gross. Hold on a second.

Speaker 32 Let me see.

Speaker 51 Man hands.

Speaker 57 You're jumping ahead of the game.

Speaker 32 Where's man hands?

Speaker 19 Oh, man.

Speaker 31 That is gross.

Speaker 31 Yeah, it's gross.

Speaker 32 That's gross. That's gross.

Speaker 26 Here's how value for value works.

Speaker 36 There's no levels, no subscriptions, of course, no tote bag.

Speaker 20 All you do is you listen to the show.

Speaker 30 He's like, hey, I like this episode.

Speaker 42 I got something out of it.

Speaker 145 Let me send these guys some coin.

Speaker 36 And whatever that value represents to you, you put it into a number.

Speaker 82 People like numerology in general.

Speaker 42 So send us a number that is meaningful to you.

Speaker 57 And you can do it anytime, at any moment you feel it's appropriate.

Speaker 9 Noagendadonations.com.

Speaker 150 And we will now thank a very few amount of supporters.

Speaker 96 I'm sure that our lack of audience capture is going to hurt us severely, John. There's no doubt about it.

Speaker 69 Yeah, it happens.

Speaker 19 It happens. Yeah.
It has happened throughout the 18th.

Speaker 3 But at least we're honest purveyors of the truth.

Speaker 48 Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 52 That's exactly right.

Speaker 42 And we don't have to do stupid stuff like saying,

Speaker 11 I'm not unhappy.

Speaker 18 Are you unhappy, John?

Speaker 19 We don't have a suicide pact.

Speaker 52 I'm not going to kill myself.

Speaker 19 Are you? Israel?

Speaker 23 Hey, top executive producer today.

Speaker 52 Here's how it works.

Speaker 63 We thank everybody $50 and above.

Speaker 16 And in this particular segment of the show, we thank the people who came in with $200 or above, who are fortunate enough to be able to do that, and we highly appreciate it.

Speaker 103 So, we do have something extra for them.

Speaker 42 It's called a title, a credit, which is an official credit that Hollywood recognizes.

Speaker 96 You can go to imdb.com and see all of the No Agenda executive and associate executive producers.

Speaker 44 So, $200 and above gives you a credit of associate executive producer, and we will read your note within reason.

Speaker 19 And $300 or above, you become an executive producer.

Speaker 60 And again, we will read your note within reason.

Speaker 44 And for the time being, $500 gets you a secretary generalship.

Speaker 52 And Matthew Lomar from Elwood, Illinois, comes in with exactly that.

Speaker 119 So he will be a Secretary General.

Speaker 19 And he says, hey, this is Matt Lomar, the guy who will kick the noodle kids' ass.

Speaker 9 Figured I'd get my Secretary General certificate and claim the title as Secretary General of Water Well Drillers.

Speaker 67 It's a good one.

Speaker 72 As such, can I humbly request karma for my small water well business, Haas Services?

Speaker 116 Any No Agenda producers, welcome to contact me with well questions.

Speaker 19 Actually, I have some well questions for you. Ooh, you have a well questioned question.

Speaker 65 I do have a well question.

Speaker 52 I would like.

Speaker 2 This is our well guy.

Speaker 19 This is the well guy.

Speaker 57 I would like a little more water pressure.

Speaker 158 We have our own well.

Speaker 51 I know how it works and I know where the thing is buried, you know, the canister. Is there anything I can do to up the water pressure?

Speaker 96 Do I have to have that thing dug up and a new one put in?

Speaker 3 You put a pump in, you pump it up to a tower outside your house. You build a tower.

Speaker 52 But we have an A.

Speaker 47 I should get it in before the HOA kicks off.

Speaker 3 Yeah, get that tower up there.

Speaker 52 Put some ham antennas in there, too.

Speaker 3 You know, Curry Farm on the tower puts some lettering on there.

Speaker 72 And one of those windmills with the vein, one of those mutual windows.

Speaker 3 Yeah, and that would do the pumping.

Speaker 52 Yeah, it'll do the pumping. That's right.
Yeah, this is a good idea.

Speaker 3 I'll do a window, pump it all up into the tower, and then the tower will provide the pressure.

Speaker 41 And on the tower, I'd put petticoat junction.

Speaker 63 That would be even funny.

Speaker 19 Yeah, well,

Speaker 86 yeah, you could do that too.

Speaker 61 Ha six

Speaker 32 dresses hanging on the thing.

Speaker 84 any no agenda producer is welcome to contact me with well questions and producers in the northern illinois area can get a free service call contact information is down below currently doing some research on the new fuel pumps out in the wild that play ads all the time while buying gas or diesel oh interested in that we need a report the fuel distributor i got you i i use got new pumps and for a while the ads were all flu shot ads well it's called remnant inventory more will follow when it becomes available uh do have a tip tip of the day if needed anytime.

Speaker 52 Matthew Lomar, Haas Services at Haaswellandpump.com, H-O-S-S-W-E-L-L-A-N-D-P-U-M-P dot com.

Speaker 102 And here is your karma, sir, as requested.

Speaker 10 You've got karma.

Speaker 3 This is like Haas Cartwright.

Speaker 19 Yeah, Haas.

Speaker 3 Sir Gee and Brackley, North Hampshire, UK, 333.33.

Speaker 22 They're alive.

Speaker 128 They're still alive. Good.

Speaker 135 We're glad to hear from you.

Speaker 3 Don't say anything too bad. Just stormer will arrest you.

Speaker 31 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Hey, both.

Speaker 3 Some well-deserved and overdue karma donation.

Speaker 3 Paying it back. Love you loads, sir Gee.
That's spelled G-H-E-E.

Speaker 150 You've got karma.

Speaker 35 Carl Dietrich, Lakeland, Florida, 333.33.

Speaker 124 Love that number.

Speaker 72 Last time I donated, he says, Adam was helping me troubleshoot album art on my Windows phone.

Speaker 19 Holy crap.

Speaker 119 So it's been a while.

Speaker 22 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 171 Man, when did the Windows phone get discontinued?

Speaker 19 10 years ago?

Speaker 16 It's been a long time.

Speaker 52 What was the name of that phone?

Speaker 137 Windows?

Speaker 3 Well, 2007 is when it was pretty much wiped out.

Speaker 32 What was it called? That was a while back.

Speaker 75 What was it called again? The Windows.

Speaker 20 Was it just Windows phone?

Speaker 43 Doesn't sound right.

Speaker 3 It had a Windows phone. It was called something.

Speaker 51 It's been a while.

Speaker 96 Long past due for another donation.

Speaker 116 Thank you for your courage.

Speaker 47 Well, thank you.

Speaker 43 I appreciate it much.

Speaker 3 And there we have Jackie Green, our guitarist.

Speaker 3 Jackie Green, the famous guitarist in Orangevale, California, 3333.

Speaker 3 Another musician that listens to the show. No jingles, just love, and God bless y'all.

Speaker 53 Ah, God bless you too, brother.

Speaker 52 John Bigelow, Glenview, Illinois, 33333. Even though I've been donating $33.33 since Adam's first Rogan appearance, the sad puppy got to me.
I'm well past knighthood, so please dedouch me.

Speaker 94 You've been dedouched.

Speaker 145 And I'd like to be knighted, Sir John of the Techni Basin.

Speaker 52 I'd like Ribbey and Malbeck at the roundtable.

Speaker 19 It has been ordered.

Speaker 29 Thanks to Adam for coming up with a possible identity for the they

Speaker 9 in all my conspiracy theories.

Speaker 21 Yes, the North Sea Nexus.

Speaker 103 Thank you, John. See you at the round table.

Speaker 3 Janet Giles or

Speaker 3 Giles or Giles, G-I-L-L-E-S at San Marcos, Texas, which is just where you are. 333.
She's got no note that I can find, and so we have to give her a double-up karma.

Speaker 2 Yeah, on the way.

Speaker 10 You've got

Speaker 150 karma.

Speaker 9 And there's $300 coming to us from the Indy No Agenda Raffle.

Speaker 124 We do have a meetup report.

Speaker 156 That's Greenwood, Indiana.

Speaker 29 And it's a switcheroo for Sir David Killian.

Speaker 126 So let me do that right away.

Speaker 3 Make sure we get that because he won the raffle.

Speaker 60 This is Instant Night.

Speaker 165 Sir David Killian.

Speaker 96 I actually sent a note at the end of this email back in 2017, but it was never read on the show.

Speaker 28 I sent in $1,000 back in episode 498, Obey the Giant Voice System.

Speaker 16 Wow, that's a long time ago.

Speaker 145 I looked it up on noagenda.clipgenie.com.

Speaker 41 John might remember that I was always, that I always sent in bill pay checks with no note, but something in the memo.

Speaker 97 Do you remember this?

Speaker 3 Let's see, that was 15 years ago. No.

Speaker 26 After that, I would send in 333.33 every quarter for several years, so I'm at least four times night or a baron, if the peerage committee agrees.

Speaker 21 I've heard nothing, so.

Speaker 3 It sounds fine to me.

Speaker 125 There's your peerage committee.

Speaker 52 I would like to be called Baron David Killian of the Illinois Prairie.

Speaker 62 Please play Donald Trump,

Speaker 72 Don't Trust China, They're Eating the Dogs, and Trump, Trump, He's the President.

Speaker 43 Yes, I've actually found that one.

Speaker 126 I've labeled it properly this time.

Speaker 33 And he goes on to say, my podcast player for iOS recommendations for no agenda chapters with rotating artwork, pod home and podverse.

Speaker 103 These are modern podcast apps.

Speaker 41 I like the best, but long initial low delay.

Speaker 78 For non-chapter supported podcasts, I prefer Pocket Casts, also a 2.0

Speaker 63 compliant app.

Speaker 96 Nice to meet the Indiana meetup organizers and the other attendees. Indianapolis, Indiana meetup organizers, Mark and Maria of the Greenwood, Fort Wayne, Indiana meetup organizer

Speaker 156 Shannon for a great meetup as well.

Speaker 151 Thank you,

Speaker 60 soon-to-be Baron David Killian of the Illinois Prairie.

Speaker 141 Donald Trump don't trust China. China is ass-hoe.

Speaker 1 They're eating the dogs.

Speaker 1 He's Trump. He's Trump the president.

Speaker 1 There you go.

Speaker 3 That's it. Here we drop down to

Speaker 3 one, Lone's Associate Executive Producer, Seems. And guess who it is? It's Linda Lupatkin, who never misses a beach.

Speaker 3 She's in Lakewood, Colorado, asked for jobs, karma, and says for a competitive edge. Well, a resume.

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Go to ImageMakersInc.com for all your executive resume and job search needs.

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Speaker 130 Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's go for jobs.

Speaker 159 You got

Speaker 11 me. Well, there you go.

Speaker 23 our executive and associate executive producers for episode 1805.

Speaker 137 We appreciate every single one of you, and we'll thank the rest of our supporters.

Speaker 14 Value for value, $50 and above in our second segment.

Speaker 160 Go to noagendadonations.com.

Speaker 19 You can set up a recurring donation if you want to.

Speaker 20 That means any amount, any frequency that you determine, or just do a one-off.

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Speaker 81 We all love it all.

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Speaker 7 Noagendadonations.com.

Speaker 23 Congratulations to these executive and associate executive producers.

Speaker 34 Our formula is this:

Speaker 175 We go out, we hit people in the mouth.

Speaker 1 They're eating the dogs.

Speaker 1 Shut up, slave.

Speaker 18 Shut up, slave.

Speaker 69 Shut up.

Speaker 112 That was pretty funny. Jon Stewart, I don't have a clip.

Speaker 43 I should probably get a clip from it.

Speaker 84 He's like, he doesn't understand

Speaker 171 why Trump hasn't gone after him yet.

Speaker 125 Hey, man, come after me. I need the attention.

Speaker 35 I'm being ignored.

Speaker 94 I need

Speaker 3 over here on Comedy Central Mondays.

Speaker 141 Yes, I need the attention.

Speaker 125 Come on, Trump. You used to hate me.

Speaker 71 What happened? You don't hate me anymore.

Speaker 151 It's no good.

Speaker 52 I need one of those comeback shows like Jimmy Kimmel had.

Speaker 4 Please.

Speaker 19 It was pathetic. That is.

Speaker 3 That's pretty pathetic.

Speaker 65 Very pathetic.

Speaker 3 As if, yeah, right.

Speaker 3 I mean, the networks are just dying with these late-night shows, and they're not making any money. They're high-budget, hundreds of people working there, and they're trying to get rid of them.

Speaker 3 So let's blame Trump. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 22 And even that backfired.

Speaker 3 Yeah, that didn't even work. So Kimball pulled a stunt and ended up still on the air.

Speaker 3 And the Disney guys have got to be shaking their heads saying, what do we have to do to get rid of this guy and do something that makes us some money?

Speaker 42 Yeah, maybe he should should be suicided by Israel.

Speaker 3 There you go.

Speaker 3 Give Israel a call.

Speaker 81 Call Mossad.

Speaker 52 1-800-M-O-S-A-A-D.

Speaker 48 Hey,

Speaker 117 this story, and maybe I'm wrong, but if I recall,

Speaker 28 isn't Chevron leaving California?

Speaker 71 Was it Chevron?

Speaker 3 I didn't say that.

Speaker 19 No,

Speaker 150 I'm asking.

Speaker 3 No,

Speaker 3 they're closing

Speaker 3 the Richmond refinery.

Speaker 3 And the refinery that

Speaker 3 got itself in trouble is the El Segundo refinery, the big boy down in Southern California.

Speaker 44 Wouldn't that make for a perfect withdrawal from California altogether?

Speaker 3 Yeah. Well, yeah, but it didn't really destroy the refinery.
It just made a mess.

Speaker 19 Well, if you listen to this report.

Speaker 172 Overnight, a massive explosion at a Chevron refinery, sending a massive fireball into the night sky.

Speaker 172 Firefighters rushing to the scene in El Segundo, California, around 9.30 last night, trying to tackle that gigantic blaze. Several fires burning within the facility.

Speaker 207 Yeah, we have heavy flames showing from the refinery. I'll need a truck company with a massive stream to respond to this.

Speaker 172 Towering flames and billowing smoke turning the night sky red.

Speaker 172 The inferno could be seen for miles. That blast so strong, residents say they thought it was an earthquake or a plane crash.

Speaker 19 Earthquake?

Speaker 6 That was a terrible explosion.

Speaker 53 Very loud.

Speaker 6 Terrible house, like more than any earthquake ever before.

Speaker 40 Out of control, for sure.

Speaker 3 And we didn't know what was going to happen next.

Speaker 172 Those residents were told to stay indoors and shelter in place after concerns about the air quality.

Speaker 122 There are several massive flames coming from the refinery.

Speaker 208 That right there appears to be the epicenter of this explosion that occurred.

Speaker 172 At times, it seemed like the fire was under control and then it would flare back up again. The smoke traveling to nearby LAX blanketing the planes on the tarmac.

Speaker 172 That oil refinery is the largest on the west coast, spanning two square miles. It supplies more than 40% of the jet fuel and more than 20% of the motor vehicle fuel for Southern California.

Speaker 8 Not yet clear what caused this explosion, but no injuries have been reported.

Speaker 81 I'm just saying, if I wanted to get out of California altogether with a big FU, I'm like, oh, our plant blew up.

Speaker 36 Get some insurance coverage.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it's probably not a bad idea.

Speaker 50 Just thinking, it's a concept.

Speaker 3 The property is worth a lot of money.

Speaker 76 You could resell it.

Speaker 3 You had to do a cleanup first.

Speaker 32 The California property.

Speaker 3 That would take a while, especially after years and years to make it leaded fuel.

Speaker 41 The California Riviera, baby, right there.

Speaker 158 It's beautiful.

Speaker 63 It's a nice spot.

Speaker 48 Yeah.

Speaker 55 I just thought that to be rather suspicious.

Speaker 3 Yeah, this happened before there, though.

Speaker 126 Suspicious.

Speaker 3 They have some maintenance. Chevron's always been sloppy.
I'll give my, here's my story about the maintenance at these places.

Speaker 3 So I worked at these refineries, and I was an inspector at Chevron in Richmond, but I worked at the Union Oil Refinery, and there used to be this big thing before it was taken over by the cheebies that own it now.

Speaker 3 But when Union Oil had it, they used to paint their tanks all these pastel colors. It was a very pretty sight when you drove through it.

Speaker 51 Did you see that when you landed at LAX or is that a different place?

Speaker 3 No, we were talking about up here. Oh, okay.

Speaker 3 And it's relating to Chevron to talk about their fact that they're cheap

Speaker 3 with their maintenance.

Speaker 85 Yeah.

Speaker 3 This is a roundabout story. I don't have to tell it.

Speaker 19 Yeah, you do.

Speaker 3 So they used to paint their tanks. And so when I started as an inspector at Chevron, their tanks were all rust buckets.
They were just

Speaker 3 looked terrible. It was an embarrassment when you looked at them.
My God, this place is a wreck because the tanks were all rusting and falling apart.

Speaker 3 So I talked to one of the managers about this and compared it to the union place where they painted the tanks beautiful pastel colors and they kept painting them and maintaining them. And he said

Speaker 3 there was a cost analysis that Chevron did that showed that, yes, you can maintain the tanks will stay in.

Speaker 3 in place a longer time, but the cost of maintaining them with the paint actually is more expensive than letting them rust fall apart and rebuilding a new tank.

Speaker 97 Yeah, sounds like the American way.

Speaker 3 The American way. And so, and so then over time,

Speaker 3 what was the irony of the whole thing was that Chevron, because they were getting so much grief for these ugly-looking

Speaker 3 rusted-out tanks, had the perfect solution. Instead of painting the tanks white and letting them rust, they painted them rust-colored.

Speaker 70 to blend in.

Speaker 59 It was genius.

Speaker 19 Oh, that's great.

Speaker 19 See that?

Speaker 81 I'm glad you told that story.

Speaker 38 That was worth it.

Speaker 22 And they're very pretty.

Speaker 19 The rust-colored tanks are really pretty.

Speaker 53 It's just like, okay, well, that works.

Speaker 8 I mean, they blow up, but otherwise.

Speaker 19 Well,

Speaker 3 they rust out and leak, and it's a mess.

Speaker 66 Oh, that's good.

Speaker 19 That was

Speaker 19 well worth it.

Speaker 71 I like that.

Speaker 97 You got some other errant stuff.

Speaker 3 I have some some stuff here.

Speaker 3 I can talk about COVID, a bullcrap, long COVID clip.

Speaker 3 Let's do Diddy.

Speaker 53 Let's do Diddy.

Speaker 3 Oh, that's just the one. Yeah, that's just a summary of what happened with Diddy.

Speaker 83 Sean Combs has been sentenced to.

Speaker 55 Scott, Schiman, everybody, shit.

Speaker 83 Sean Combs has been sentenced to more than four years in prison after a lengthy hearing in Manhattan yesterday.

Speaker 83 The rapper, producer, and businessman was convicted in July on two prostitution-related charges. Chloy Malas has covered the Combs trial for NBC News.

Speaker 104 She joins us from an airport now.

Speaker 83 Thanks for being with us.

Speaker 174 Thanks for having me. Good morning.

Speaker 83 He was acquitted of the most serious charges, sex trafficking and racketeering. What are the two charges of which he's now been found guilty?

Speaker 174 Those are two counts of something called the Man Act. It's transportation to engage in prostitution.
And he was found guilty by the jury over the summer of those two counts.

Speaker 174 But like you said, he was acquitted of the more serious charges, which he faced a life in prison sentence if convicted on those well tell us more about this sentence of uh of about four years because the the judge could have handed down something lengthier couldn't he so the judge could have given combs up to 10 years on each count of the man act which means he could have faced up to 20 years in federal prison the judge giving him four years and two months is actually quite a surprise because it is less than what the probation department recommended, which was between five and seven years.

Speaker 174 Now, it is not what Combs' legal team wanted, which was 14 months.

Speaker 174 I actually spoke to one of his attorneys, Brian Steele, last night outside of the courthouse following the judge's decision, and they said that they are very disappointed in this and that all they want is Combs to come home and that they plan to appeal.

Speaker 83 We certainly heard a lot from Sean Combs' alleged victims during the trial. How did they receive news of the sentence?

Speaker 174 One of the first individuals to react to the news of Combs' sentence was Cassie Ventura, his longtime girlfriend, who was a key witness in this trial.

Speaker 174 And in a statement through her attorney, she says that nothing can undo this trauma, but basically, this is a step in the right direction, that this shows the serious nature of his crimes.

Speaker 96 So they need to get this guy back doing those beats, you know.

Speaker 11 Yeah, bitches, that's right.

Speaker 155 got to get some beats going on to psyop the kids.

Speaker 64 This pisses me off, actually.

Speaker 86 Why?

Speaker 96 My friend, the ER doctor, who worked through COVID as an ER doctor, who got psyoped during COVID into a Medicare scam, honeypotted.

Speaker 3 Yeah, your guy.

Speaker 145 Honey guy there.

Speaker 156 Yeah, honeypotted by the Justice Department itself, pretending to be patients.

Speaker 42 This guy was an ER doctor, not sophisticated in scams.

Speaker 92 He's serving 10 years

Speaker 82 for like a couple hundred thousand dollars over several years, which he legitimately did not had and no way of knowing it was a scam.

Speaker 167 And this guy walks with four.

Speaker 19 This is dumb.

Speaker 19 Yeah, I can see what they did.

Speaker 19 I think you're right.

Speaker 19 That bothers me.

Speaker 32 It bothers me. Apparently.

Speaker 21 I'm going to go visit him again in November.

Speaker 103 Talk to my Metallica boys there, the guards.

Speaker 96 Hey, boys, I'm coming.

Speaker 3 So there is is a I have a series of clips from,

Speaker 3 I think it's PBS, I'm not sure, but this is

Speaker 3 about long COVID, and it's a bunch of BS, it seems to me.

Speaker 3 Okay. And it finishes with what I called the crock.

Speaker 59 Long COVID.

Speaker 19 So, long COVID, let's just establish whatever you think. And by the way, you don't have to email me because I guess whenever we talk about long COVID, people tell me it's real.

Speaker 152 And I'm not saying that it's not real that you don't feel something and you feel bad or you have something, but calling it long COVID is bull crap.

Speaker 85 It's a cop-out.

Speaker 76 Well, it keeps.

Speaker 3 I believe after listening to these clips and listening about log and COVID over the five years,

Speaker 3 I believe it to be part of an effort to keep the word COVID in play so you can sell more vaccines. Because a lot of people, especially the new super spike or whatever it's called,

Speaker 3 Moderna's big spike.

Speaker 177 A lot of people have chronic fatigue disease.

Speaker 37 That's real.

Speaker 52 But even

Speaker 148 one of the guys here goes to our church.

Speaker 122 He's in his late 40s, I think.

Speaker 93 Maybe 50.

Speaker 45 And he was diagnosed with, oh, it's long COVID, but really he had heart arrhythmia.

Speaker 81 You know, and so it's like, they just say long COVID.

Speaker 22 Yeah, COVID triggered it, probably.

Speaker 3 Maybe. I mean, or the vax, it triggered it.

Speaker 60 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, not vax, not vaxx.

Speaker 3 Not vaxed. But did he ever have COVID?

Speaker 59 Well,

Speaker 52 you know, a lot of people here test.

Speaker 19 So who knows? Oh, I have COVID.

Speaker 86 Yeah.

Speaker 86 So I don't know. Okay, well.

Speaker 118 Did he think he had COVID? Yeah.

Speaker 31 For sure.

Speaker 3 So here we go with the long COVID BS. And the thing is, it's two things, keeping COVID

Speaker 3 in the public brain, and then also money.

Speaker 158 Yes.

Speaker 192 It's been more than two years since the pandemic ended, but millions of Americans are still living with long COVID.

Speaker 192 That's a catch-all term for COVID symptoms lasting at least three months after testing positive. Symptoms can vary from person to person, but they range from mild to severe to physically disabling.

Speaker 192 Recently, Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
kicked off new efforts to address long COVID with a roundtable discussion with doctors, researchers, and patient advocates.

Speaker 209 In the past, the response to epidemics of this kind has been to pump a lot of money into ivory tower science to try to solve the problem.

Speaker 209 We've already put $1.5 billion into NIH to solve long COVID, and we've got literally nothing from it.

Speaker 192 Allie Rogan spoke to two members of the long COVID community, Dr.

Speaker 192 Michael Paluso, a physician and researcher at UC San Francisco, who attended that roundtable meeting, and Megan Stone, the executive director of the long COVID campaign.

Speaker 52 So can I get the zip code for the long COVID community?

Speaker 3 Yeah, you want to the long COVID community.

Speaker 114 Oh, my goodness.

Speaker 3 It's just south of you.

Speaker 81 Yeah.

Speaker 114 Community.

Speaker 87 All right.

Speaker 32 All right, go on.

Speaker 210 Michael and Megan, thank you both so much for joining us. Michael, first to you.

Speaker 210 We just heard Secretary Kennedy say that there's been nothing to show for HHS's investment so far in long COVID research. What do you say to that?

Speaker 206 Well, I think many of us agree that progress has really been too slow.

Speaker 206 There are a lot of patients really suffering, a lot of disability, a huge economic cost.

Speaker 206 At the same time, There's a lot of commitment on the part of clinicians caring for patients with long COVID, researchers really trying to figure out the answers for these patients.

Speaker 206 What I think we need and what I hope that this roundtable will be the the beginning of, is a really clear, both a short-term plan and a long-term plan for figuring this out.

Speaker 206 We need a broader organized strategy.

Speaker 210 So, what would make up, Michael, sticking with you, that long and short-term plan in order to make this strategy work? What's needed?

Speaker 206 There are actually three specific things that I advocated for at this meeting, and I think that there was kind of broad agreement on these things.

Speaker 206 The first is real investment, real investment, real investment in a diagnostics and biomarker program.

Speaker 70 Biomarker.

Speaker 206 Both to help people get a diagnosis of long COVID in the clinic, but also to help us identify individuals who may benefit from a specific treatment strategy or for participation in a specific clinical trial.

Speaker 206 The second thing that we really need is a rapid scale up of the number of clinical trials that are happening.

Speaker 206 We've seen some improvement, some increase in the number of clinical trials over the last couple of years, but I'd like to see a dozen more clinical trials right now testing all of the different possible leads for what might cause long COVID and how we might help people feel better.

Speaker 21 Translation, we don't really know what it is either.

Speaker 3 It's just, it's pathetic. Yeah.

Speaker 21 But give me, give me some money and I can tell you what it is.

Speaker 3 Money, money, money.

Speaker 46 Money, money, money.

Speaker 206 And then the third thing that we really need to help that happen is is we need the pharmaceutical industry to get off the sidelines and to really commit

Speaker 206 to participating in clinical trials, putting their drugs up for testing, investing deeply in this problem so that we can get answers for people who are really debilitated from this condition.

Speaker 210 Megan, as somebody who is a patient and an advocate, how are you feeling about the commitments that have been announced recently?

Speaker 187 Well, right now, today, there's about 20 million Americans just like me who are living with long long COVID, and many of us were in the prime of our careers and lives and now are disabled and chronically ill.

Speaker 187 And so the administration's announcements that Secretary Kennedy made were welcome.

Speaker 187 It was really good to see the HHS secretary having a high-level meeting, bringing together all the parts of government that we really need to work together to find a solution.

Speaker 187 And that's really what we need to see so that parents like myself can get back to volunteering at our kids' schools, we can go back to our workplaces, and patients can finally get the tests and the treatments that we've been waiting over five years for now.

Speaker 171 I'm just going to guess that your final clip should not be three minutes and 10 seconds.

Speaker 3 Let me take a look.

Speaker 3 Probably not. Generally speaking,

Speaker 3 I can explain how that happens once in a while, but I'm not going to.

Speaker 57 No, why bother?

Speaker 3 I'll tell you when to cut it off.

Speaker 3 It'll be around, you know,

Speaker 63 we'll see. Buck 20.

Speaker 210 And you've been working on these things and advocating for your community for these five years. Based on your experience, what are your hopes for what happens next?

Speaker 210 And also, where do your concerns lie?

Speaker 52 Like many people.

Speaker 67 By the way, this is so scripted.

Speaker 40 I mean, you can think

Speaker 3 an NPR show or it's PBS scripted. By the way, when I play the Boeing, it'll be over.

Speaker 148 Surprise.

Speaker 210 Based on your experience, what are your hopes for what happens next? And also, where do your concerns lie?

Speaker 187 Like many patients, the long COVID campaign has been calling for biomarkers so that we can do research and figure out if treatments are going to work and hopefully get a test so that people in the United States, Americans who are disabled, can more easily qualify for disability, that we can see insurance coverage.

Speaker 187 We really want to see the FDA move more quickly, and we're hoping with these announcements from the administration that we'll see them more rapidly approve clinical trials with the endpoints that we need and then work together on approving treatments and therapies that families and Americans living with long COVID urgently need.

Speaker 187 We didn't see the progress we needed under the Biden administration. And I know so many patients are ready to work with this administration in an earnest way to actually solve this problem.

Speaker 210 And for both of you, COVID-19 and long COVID are things that many Americans have quite simply moved on from. And yet there are many, many more people who are living with this every single day.

Speaker 210 First to you, Michael, what do you want people who haven't been affected by long COVID to know about this community?

Speaker 206 I think it's really important that people understand that this can often be an invisible disease and that there are a lot of people really suffering and really debilitated by it.

Speaker 206 And, you know, I think that the investment in addressing this problem is likely to have benefits that extend beyond this problem.

Speaker 206 Long COVID is a really, really challenging disease to study, to research, to treat, and it'll be a big problem to solve.

Speaker 206 But I think that if we have the resources and the strategy and the long-term plan to do it,

Speaker 206 this should be a problem that we can solve.

Speaker 210 And, Megan?

Speaker 187 Americans may feel like the pandemic's over or that COVID is in the rearview mirror, but even in just the last few months, we saw the announcement that long COVID is now the most common childhood illness in the United States.

Speaker 187 It even surpassed asthma. So it's still

Speaker 121 what?

Speaker 9 It surpassed asthma.

Speaker 3 The most common childhood disease in America is now long COVID.

Speaker 3 Hard.

Speaker 3 When did that happen? When you're a kid, you can't even get COVID.

Speaker 3 It's almost impossible. But somehow it's become the number one childhood disease.

Speaker 3 Surpassing asthma.

Speaker 21 According to these Jamokes.

Speaker 45 I'd like to see some data on that.

Speaker 37 Give me your Taylor Swift phony story. What is this Taylou Swift?

Speaker 3 Okay, this is a, I got this. This is a, this was, you know, they have to talk about Taylor Swift on NPR.
Of course.

Speaker 3 Because it's Taylor Swift. But, but this is kind of, I, I consider this, even though they kind of couch it as like a positive thing.
She's a good marketing woman and all this and that.

Speaker 3 But this to me just says she's a big phony.

Speaker 205 Taylor Swift talks about her musical and personal style in eras.

Speaker 211 Researchers say those eras have also influenced how she speaks.

Speaker 178 Matthew Wynne of the University of Minnesota co-authored a study that analyzed her speech from 2008 to 2019.

Speaker 212 As a person moves to different cities and different communities, they have motivation to change how they speak.

Speaker 163 While most people don't record themselves from location to location, Swift's career allowed for that.

Speaker 212 We have this timeline of her voice throughout the years.

Speaker 39 Swift was raised in Pennsylvania, then moved to Nashville.

Speaker 211 Wynne analyzed this clip of Swift speaking from her time in Nashville.

Speaker 109 My role models in country music are Shania Twain, Faith Hill, Dixie Chicks.

Speaker 212 Part of what it means to be a country musician is to speak with that southern accent.

Speaker 212 And just to make sure that she was welcomed into that community, maybe that was something that helped that process.

Speaker 163 When Swift released Red in 2012, her speech seemed to change. A return to her Pennsylvania accent seemed evident in a live webcast in 2013.

Speaker 109 A huge inspiration from my imagination.

Speaker 212 She was exiting country music and entering pop music, where a southern accent wouldn't have necessarily fit in as well.

Speaker 178 Then, after she moved to New York, the pitch of her voice dropped, as in this 2019 interview with CBS Sunday Morning.

Speaker 163 And he has 300 million reasons to conveniently forget those conversations.

Speaker 146 Wynne explains.

Speaker 212 This was a time when she was being much more vocal about social and political issues and the autonomy of musicians over their own work. And so I think she did what a lot of people do.

Speaker 212 She took those issues very seriously. She started speaking with a lower voice.

Speaker 152 This was what university now?

Speaker 32 Oh, I don't know.

Speaker 3 Pennsylvania or something. Whatever.

Speaker 205 It talks about her musical and personal style in eras.

Speaker 211 Researchers say those eras have also influenced how she speaks.

Speaker 178 Matthew Wynne of the University of Minnesota, co-author.

Speaker 114 Minnesota.

Speaker 96 If you go to the University of Minnesota, drop out immediately.

Speaker 168 They are misusing your tuition.

Speaker 3 Well, this is like Harvard and having

Speaker 3 that drag queen give a course in

Speaker 87 drag queenery.

Speaker 3 What was the name? She's got this crazy name.

Speaker 3 I guarantee that at least five people in the troll room will come up with her name. And it's a course in

Speaker 3 it's just a crazy nutball course, and it's Harvard.

Speaker 3 There it is. There's coming.

Speaker 63 No, I'm waiting for it.

Speaker 97 I'm looking in the. Did we have a clip?

Speaker 3 No, I don't have a clip. I'm not sure.
That is dumb. So that's dumber than what I just played.
All right.

Speaker 124 What you do have is you have a podcast clip.

Speaker 87 Let's end on a podcast clip.

Speaker 3 I have a podcast clip?

Speaker 41 Yeah, podcast about Buckeys.

Speaker 26 Noteworthy.

Speaker 3 Oh, yeah. This is

Speaker 19 noteworthy.

Speaker 19 Noteworthy. That's why it's an afterthought of this.

Speaker 3 It's noteworthy because I have a commentary about this clip. This is about a podcast coming out that's going to spend an hour or two talking about Buckies.

Speaker 94 All right.

Speaker 214 Small town in southern Colorado, there's a proposal to build a Buckies, a massive convenience store/slash gas station known for its beaver mascot and endless gas pumps.

Speaker 214 The proposal has divided neighbors and cost officials their jobs.

Speaker 216 It's just all this wild human nature that has erupted over

Speaker 105 a gas station and beaver nuggets.

Speaker 199 Why don't you just sit there and and shut your mouths and listen to White Stage?

Speaker 55 I'm Benta Brookland.

Speaker 214 On this episode of Purple-ish from CPR News, how plans for a Bucky's Travel Plaza sparked a larger-than-life controversy.

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Speaker 57 Okay, you're noteworthy.

Speaker 3 Amy, of course, is running for office in the Port Angeles area and runs into this all the time, which is that the council and the county commissioners and everybody in between, you can present them with petitions.

Speaker 3 You can have the places packed with people that tell them to do this and that. You see it in

Speaker 3 school boards. You see it on your YouTube videos.
And they refuse to act. These local officials, for some reason, over the last few decades, have not become responsive.

Speaker 3 They've become unresponsive to the local communities. And this Bucky story, I'm sure, is exactly the same.
This is completely out of control.

Speaker 3 They've gotten something into their heads where they don't have to listen to the public anymore.

Speaker 11 Well, why would they?

Speaker 59 That's why me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me for city council.

Speaker 23 Thank you, Digit Up.

Speaker 71 The troll room is on the ball.

Speaker 68 Headline: Harvard hires drag queen as visiting professor in gender and sexuality studies.

Speaker 168 New courses include Rue Politics, Drag Race and Desire, and Queer Ethnography.

Speaker 71 The name of the drag queen, you you ready?

Speaker 8 Lahore Vajasthan.

Speaker 3 Yeah, a pun.

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Speaker 105 Yo, yo, yo.

Speaker 146 It's Leo Bravo at meetup number 67. The crew has things to say.

Speaker 215 This is Myra from Ocholo. Come join us anytime after 11 a.m.

Speaker 217 This is Eric reporting from downtown Los Angeles where there's nothing happening on the streets.

Speaker 79 Except for Comic-Con going on across the street. And we're here all dressed as furries, pawing our Mexican food.

Speaker 106 In the morning. Oh!

Speaker 94 And in the morning.

Speaker 137 Okay, now we go to Indiana.

Speaker 21 Dave Manette always puts together a great meetup report because there's always a lot of people at the indie meetups.

Speaker 214 This is Day Maria.

Speaker 143 And Sir Mark.

Speaker 191 We are so happy to be back in Indiana with our family here.

Speaker 163 It's amazing.

Speaker 72 In the morning, this is Sir Rep of the Maple, and today was a hot meetup due to climate change.

Speaker 17 Gary here.

Speaker 169 Sorry I've been gone for the last few months, but my reprogramming for Spook has taken a little longer than I thought.

Speaker 142 Hey, this is Emily, and if we keep saying four more years, we essentially have y'all at least seven months into the next administration, so four more years.

Speaker 140 Bruce here, just drinking some beers with Emily the Fed.

Speaker 102 Not her from Indianapolis. I'm here.
Should not have eat that whole pizza, but it's still good to see Mark and Maria.

Speaker 218 In the morning, this is Matt finally driven in from the wilds of southeast Indiana. Only Mark and Maria could bring me back from my ranch out in the woods.

Speaker 189 Dame Trinity having a great time in Indy.

Speaker 174 It is great to see Mark and Maria back in the the States.

Speaker 217 In the morning, John and Adams, Sir PBR Street Game here from Fort Wayne, loving to see Mark and Maria back again.

Speaker 135 This is Ted from Batesville, part of the Walking Wounded.

Speaker 104 Glad to see Mark and Maria back here.

Speaker 106 This is Chris from Indianapolis, newbie, just came for the free wine.

Speaker 154 There's free wine?

Speaker 19 Oh, this is David.

Speaker 106 I'm from Illinois. My first meetup in Indy.
Glad to be here.

Speaker 69 In the morning.

Speaker 7 In the morning.

Speaker 216 Dame Swanney.

Speaker 208 I'm next to Sir David, who just won the raffle. I didn't.

Speaker 144 Sir Benny here, and I'm sitting next to the most fabulous Dame Swanny I could ever imagine. In the morning, John and Adam, this is Nick.

Speaker 133 There's a lot of pressure for me to be funny, so I'm just going to say cash Mattell's eyeballs.

Speaker 174 Hey, this is Brandy at Blind Owl playing crowd control over these crazy folks. Maybe some of you guys can get your servers to partake a little bit.

Speaker 4 In the morning, see you in Bala.

Speaker 22 Okay,

Speaker 22 wonderful.

Speaker 52 Hey, there's a meetup taking place on Thursday.

Speaker 124 It is the Takota Tavern in Parker, Colorado, on the 9th.

Speaker 67 That's Thursday, Thursday, Thursday at Takota Tavern.

Speaker 103 Kicks off at

Speaker 177 5:30 p.m.

Speaker 41 And coming up, we've got the Johnson City Texas meetup on October 10th, followed by the Fredericksburg, Texas meetup on October 11th.

Speaker 177 Going to be a lot of no agenda superstars there.

Speaker 19 I'm sure Sir Dirty Jersey Hoare will be there.

Speaker 171 I think Sir Mark,

Speaker 41 the filmmaker, is going to be there.

Speaker 52 Tina the Keeper will be there.

Speaker 107 I'll be there.

Speaker 150 At the same time, October 11th, Garden City, Idaho meetup.

Speaker 9 Charlotte, North Carolina, the 16th.

Speaker 119 Colleyville, Texas on the 18th.

Speaker 63 Fort Wayne, Indiana on the 18th, Columbus, Ohio on the 18th.

Speaker 171 Lansing, Michigan on the 19th.

Speaker 103 Los Altos, California on the 25th. Camp Hill, Pennsylvania on the 26th.

Speaker 72 And Berlin, Deutschland.

Speaker 41 This has to be some kind of illegal move.

Speaker 124 They're going to do a meetup and talk about things.

Speaker 9 That's October 27th.

Speaker 81 Send us a report.

Speaker 168 Leiden, the Netherlands on the 31st. They're going into November.

Speaker 145 Albany, California, get John Out of the House meetup on the 15th.

Speaker 96 And January 3rd, we already have a meetup on the book, Santa Rosa, California.

Speaker 42 Those are just a few of the No Agenda meetups that you can find at noagendametups.com.

Speaker 8 Go there because you will love these meetups.

Speaker 102 Connection is protection.

Speaker 9 You get it at the meetup, the people who will be your first responders in an emergency.

Speaker 145 Noagendametups.com.

Speaker 12 If you can't find one near you, start one yourself. Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days.

Speaker 12 You to be where you won't be, triggered on hell lame.

Speaker 12 You to be where everybody feels the same.

Speaker 12 It's like a party.

Speaker 1 Always like a party.

Speaker 18 Guaranteed to delight. Time for our ISO off.

Speaker 38 ISO off. ISOF, ISO off, ISO off.

Speaker 96 We both have two, I see, except one of yours is named OSO.

Speaker 28 Your spelling mistakes are getting better with the years.

Speaker 3 They're funnier.

Speaker 38 I actually loaded.

Speaker 41 I thought that was a different podcast clip you had.

Speaker 31 I'm like, oh, so.

Speaker 43 Oh, it's an ISO. I see.

Speaker 31 It's really short. I got it.

Speaker 171 Okay, I'll play mine. Then we'll play yours.

Speaker 168 See which one we choose for the end of the show.

Speaker 103 Here's my first.

Speaker 154 Utterly breathtaking.

Speaker 28 Non-AI and utterly breathtaking.

Speaker 97 Or this one.

Speaker 129 This is a big one.

Speaker 69 All right.

Speaker 67 What do you have?

Speaker 22 Those are tough. Yeah, thank you.

Speaker 53 Well, I have a I don't do AI.

Speaker 3 I've got ISO hosts.

Speaker 182 This show gets better with age. Like the hosts.

Speaker 29 Not AI at all.

Speaker 71 Gee, you fooled me, John.

Speaker 19 Yeah.

Speaker 3 The show gets better with age, like the hosts.

Speaker 94 This show gets better with age.

Speaker 182 Like the hosts. Okay.

Speaker 44 Speak for yourself.

Speaker 3 And there's the one, best podcast.

Speaker 130 Best podcast.

Speaker 19 I can go with that one.

Speaker 182 This show gets better with age. Like the hosts.

Speaker 19 I can go with that one.

Speaker 47 Yeah, of course you can. That's cute.

Speaker 135 Of course I can. Hey, everybody.

Speaker 139 Here it is. It's John's tip of the day.

Speaker 94 Great master, you and me.

Speaker 4 Just the tip with JCD

Speaker 77 and sometimes Adam.

Speaker 3 I'm going to do my, I do this about six of these a year, and this is a wine tip.

Speaker 22 Oh, good. We love a John C.

Speaker 135 Dvorak wine.

Speaker 3 This is a wine that I have it every so often, and every time I have it, I say, why don't I plug this wine?

Speaker 3 And it's interesting because I'll give you a little backstory about some of these cheap California wines that are done by Gallo.

Speaker 3 And they bring out this fabulous wine. The Turning Leaf was a good example if you can remember back that far.
Came out, it was a Cabernet. It was like $10, $9.

Speaker 3 Tasted like a $50 wine. And then the next year tasted kind of like a $20 wine.
And then the next year, it tastes like a $5 wine.

Speaker 135 And then they fold it.

Speaker 3 But they made lots of money.

Speaker 8 I bet they did.

Speaker 3 So this is different.

Speaker 3 These guys have yet to have dropped the quality of this product.

Speaker 3 This is a screwball wine that I think came out of the ⁇ this came out of a bunch of purchases. I actually have a bottle here.

Speaker 3 That Robert Mondavi did before he died.

Speaker 22 Oh, Robert.

Speaker 3 Robert Mondavi. This is a Robert Mondavi wine, and he bought a bunch of California wineries all over the place to use as

Speaker 3 estate taxes so he could just dump the wineries and the kids would still have the main winery.

Speaker 3 But it turned out that the president changes whatever happened. He ended up with owning these places, and they changed the names of them.
And I don't remember which one this was

Speaker 3 specifically, but it's one of the Valley wines from San Joaquin Valley, I think. But it's sold as Robert Mondavi, and I'll tell you what it says on the label.
And it's like nine bucks,

Speaker 3 maybe, maybe up to $12 someplace.

Speaker 9 Can I get it at Costco?

Speaker 3 Costco will have it,

Speaker 3 but all kinds of places have it. They make a ton of it.

Speaker 8 Okay.

Speaker 3 And it's a black label wine called Robert Mondavi Private Selection,

Speaker 3 which is always a giveaway for what? Come on, nine bucks, ten bucks?

Speaker 57 And it's a black label?

Speaker 19 Isn't it always a black label wine?

Speaker 141 Isn't always black label?

Speaker 3 No, Robert Mondavi has a tan label.

Speaker 3 Well, this always has a black label because it's not really Robert Mondavi. It's not a NAFA wine.
It's not made there either.

Speaker 32 It just says Robert Mondavi.

Speaker 3 It just says Robert Mondavi. Robert Mondavi Private selection, bourbon barrel-aged Cabernet Sauvignon.

Speaker 122 Ooh, that's very popular.

Speaker 3 And this wine for year after year. I've been drinking this on and off for about five years as a kind of just a quick wine.
If you want to have a dinner,

Speaker 3 hamburger wine. After breakfast.
After breakfast, hamburger wine. It's good for skin eggs.

Speaker 66 Hamburger wine.

Speaker 3 It's a total hamburger wine. And it is just, it's got, it's for a California wine, it's dark.
It's, it's got some Cabernet character. It's got a lot of oak, and it's a bourbon-style oak.

Speaker 3 If you don't like oak, don't get this wine. But if you like oaky wines, this is a very well-made wine.

Speaker 52 I'm going to see if H-E-B has it.

Speaker 103 I'll talk to Matt at H-E-B,

Speaker 96 and I will tell him to push it.

Speaker 19 I'll say

Speaker 51 cheapy. I'll tell him to put like one of those

Speaker 19 sticker on it.

Speaker 145 John C. Devorak Tip of the Day wine.

Speaker 19 I'm telling you, we should have a woman.

Speaker 8 I have the C.

Speaker 3 Devork Tip of the Day wine. There it is.

Speaker 168 Find all of John's tips of tipoftheday.net.

Speaker 52 What a good one.

Speaker 147 Great masks for you and me. Just the tip with JCD.

Speaker 147 And sometimes at home.

Speaker 81 Created by Tana Bernetti. Wow.

Speaker 21 I always love it when you do a good wine tip.

Speaker 43 Especially when they're cheap, which are most of your wine tips, actually.

Speaker 3 No, I try to keep them cheap. And they have to be readily available, too.
I mean, you just can't have, you know, something upset.

Speaker 33 I can't wait.

Speaker 57 I'm going to go to HEB tomorrow and say, hey, man, I need that Robert Maldali private selection black label Bourbon Barrel, just a little bit.

Speaker 81 Bourbon Barrel Age, yes.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 116 It's very popular here in Texas, the Bourbon Barrel Age, along with Texas Heritage Wine, whatever that means.

Speaker 36 Hey, we've got to end a show mixes from B.

Speaker 8 Dubbs and Jeffrey Crocker.

Speaker 119 And

Speaker 42 coming up next on the No Agenda streams, Abs in a Six Pack.

Speaker 168 It'll be episode number 270.

Speaker 19 We need another live show after our live show.

Speaker 3 Where are the live shows, people?

Speaker 30 Give us a live show.

Speaker 41 Coming to you from the heart of the Texas Hill Country, soon to be the place of another meetup here at J6 or Jenny's Place, Fredericksburg, Texas.

Speaker 13 In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.

Speaker 3 And from Northern Silicon Valley, where I remain, I'm John C. Dvorak.

Speaker 7 Meet us here again on Thursday.

Speaker 57 We'll do it all over again for you with more media deconstruction.

Speaker 12 Until then, remember us at NoAjinThonations.com.

Speaker 141 Adios, mofos, a hooey-hooey, and

Speaker 199 Good evening, Mari.

Speaker 108 What is the White House saying about the government shutdown?

Speaker 59 Tiff, good evening.

Speaker 219 Yes, the White House is blaming Democrats for the government shutdown, saying that it impacts active duty troops, critical food assistance, and flood insurance as we enter hurricane season.

Speaker 216 Republicans thought that they could barrel us into a shutdown.

Speaker 216 Roll up the barrels. They can't barrel us us.

Speaker 216 We have the rocks. They can't bully us.

Speaker 216 He's an idiot.

Speaker 216 We got the blues on the ladder.

Speaker 216 What is he talking with the barrel? Oh, Republicans are trying to barrel.

Speaker 216 They can't barrel us.

Speaker 3 Ladies and gentlemen, if you take a sixpence, which in Deutsch is Fulman's fancy fennel, and you go on the bus upstairs, the omnibuses,

Speaker 111 the omnibuses we have put on the table so far will make a real difference.

Speaker 120 Make no mistake.

Speaker 183 This is a fight for our future.

Speaker 111 And this is why we have such massive debates.

Speaker 34 The omnibuses

Speaker 66 omnibuses.

Speaker 34 But the truth is that the world of today is unforgettable.

Speaker 111 And it is for all these reasons.

Speaker 111 Companies and consumers alike.

Speaker 183 And the omnibuses.

Speaker 111 And further omnibuses are on their way, for example, military mobility. Or on the digital.

Speaker 111 or on the digital

Speaker 111 they can feel the ground shift beneath them

Speaker 34 we simply cannot wait for this storm to pass the omnibuses

Speaker 111 and it is for all these reasons that a new Europe must emerge.

Speaker 111 And the omnibuses.

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