1820 - "Tokyo Rose"

Speaker 1 Eh, whatever.

Speaker 2 Adam Curry, John C. Dvorak.

Speaker 3 It's Thursday, November 27th, 2025. This is your award-winning Kimball Nation Media Assassination episode 1820.

Speaker 2 This is no agenda.

Speaker 5 No B Team here.

Speaker 6 We're broadcasting live from the heart of the Texas Hill Country here in FEMA, region number six.

Speaker 11 In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.

Speaker 5 And from Northern Silicon Valley, where our motto is Don't Give Up the Ship.

Speaker 2 I'm John C. Dvorak.
It's Craig

Speaker 13 Don't Give Up the Ship?

Speaker 2 You missed the point of that?

Speaker 14 I did.

Speaker 15 I did.

Speaker 15 What am I missing?

Speaker 2 That was what the seditious six said.

Speaker 2 And that's what all these other guys said at the end of their little clips that were put together.

Speaker 2 I'm totally convinced by Schumer.

Speaker 17 First of all,

Speaker 18 happy, happy Thanksgiving.

Speaker 19 I want everybody to know we're working for you.

Speaker 20 Everybody's taking the day off.

Speaker 2 It's unbelievable how many people. They all worked on Monday.

Speaker 21 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Like the entire everybody except for the B team at Fox, for example. The B team.
All bailed.

Speaker 22 All of them.

Speaker 25 Dude, even Candace Owens is taking the week off and she's about to be killed by an Israeli agent.

Speaker 15 I mean, come on.

Speaker 11 Nobody's working but us.

Speaker 2 Jesus, stay on the mic if that's going to happen.

Speaker 32 You know, if I was, that's what I would do.

Speaker 33 Talk about going down with the ship.

Speaker 18 But like, come on, kill me on the air, man.

Speaker 35 Let's go.

Speaker 11 Let's do it.

Speaker 36 Mr. Mossad.

Speaker 2 I want to get these clips out of the way. This is going down with the ship thing.

Speaker 37 But

Speaker 16 you're so out of format.

Speaker 38 This is not what we do every year.

Speaker 2 What do we do?

Speaker 39 Every single Thanksgiving.

Speaker 24 And this is almost like the night before Christmas book.

Speaker 2 You're talking about the long story about what Thanksgiving really is?

Speaker 41 You need to tell us us the actual story of Thanksgiving because every time.

Speaker 2 I do this every year. I used to put it in the newsletter.
I gave up.

Speaker 7 Why? It's so beautiful.

Speaker 44 I actually went and looked up your previous

Speaker 39 thank because you have done this since 2005 in print.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I know. It's getting, yeah.

Speaker 48 And I, and I loved, because I did a search.

Speaker 14 I'm like, oh, let me go.

Speaker 2 Let me go. This is the format.

Speaker 1 What's the format, man?

Speaker 2 Thanksgiving format.

Speaker 27 You're like, oh, let's go down with the ship.

Speaker 11 No, hold hold on a second.

Speaker 44 No.

Speaker 2 By the way, I want to mention that

Speaker 2 the idea that we do work on this Thanksgiving, we've only miss one.

Speaker 2 But generally speaking, but we're not like these people are all bailed out.

Speaker 22 It's unbelievable.

Speaker 49 Yeah, like they don't care about their audience, man.

Speaker 2 Well, it's not even that. There is stuff happening.

Speaker 11 Yeah, well, there's a lot happening.

Speaker 51 But wait, before you go into different directions.

Speaker 2 I'm trying to get off this trip.

Speaker 53 It's not going to happen. So

Speaker 54 I found, I did a search.

Speaker 55 The first hit was dvorak.org/slash blog.

Speaker 29 This is great.

Speaker 58 And the first hit was a repost of your 2005 post.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 2 all these are reposts.

Speaker 40 It is, it is.

Speaker 52 And

Speaker 17 I love how it starts off.

Speaker 53 I'm always amused by the cock and bull story about Thanksgiving being about pilgrims, maize,

Speaker 53 turkeys, and Indians when the holiday stems from an Abe Lincoln proclamation at the behest of a magazine editor. And then you go into this.

Speaker 66 But what I didn't realize, the comments are great.

Speaker 68 Have you ever looked at these comments from

Speaker 2 not for years?

Speaker 13 Like, shut up, you old crank.

Speaker 56 Eat your turkey, you ingrate.

Speaker 2 In great. Oh, that's a good one.

Speaker 70 I like that one.

Speaker 71 What?

Speaker 39 Thanksgiving didn't start with the pilgrims.

Speaker 13 Next, you'll be telling us George Washington didn't chop down a cherry tree and Betsy ross did not sow the first american flag it's just there's a lot of hate here and i realize that somehow

Speaker 2 you say these horrible things and you're able to deflect it to me it's like i become your lightning rod you haven't been catching the flack for the things for the truth the truth about thanksgiving the truth the truth

Speaker 2 the cock and bull story who who needs it i noticed it's been they've been downplaying it, and I've heard on a couple of shows over the last couple of days where people do refer to the Lincoln Proclamation.

Speaker 2 They don't mention that it was at the behest of a magazine editor, but they do mention it, which they've never done before.

Speaker 81 What's interesting is I looked up Lincoln's Proclamation. I'm not going to read it, it's very long.

Speaker 56 But what I found interesting this year is that he basically copied large swaths of the Bible: Deuteronomy, Psalms.

Speaker 86 I mean,

Speaker 53 and he did this, what, like in the middle of the Civil War, I think?

Speaker 2 No, it was right after the Civil War. This was a Thanksgiving for the

Speaker 2 this was immediately after the Civil War.

Speaker 84 Oh, so it was, it was, isn't that right around the Gettysburg Address then?

Speaker 2 No, no, no.

Speaker 24 No, I think he did this one week after the Gettysburg Address.

Speaker 88 No, I don't.

Speaker 11 Well, we'd have to do you got your little robot right there.

Speaker 35 Hold on, let me talk to the robot.

Speaker 89 I see error.

Speaker 90 When did President Lincoln give the Thanksgiving proclamation?

Speaker 93 President Lincoln gave his Thanksgiving proclamation on October 3rd, 1863. Would you like to know more about it?

Speaker 19 Yeah, was the

Speaker 37 Civil War over?

Speaker 93 No, the Civil War was still raging when Lincoln gave his Thanksgiving Proclamation

Speaker 93 in 1863. It actually lasted another two years.
Is there anything specific about the proclamation?

Speaker 71 Shut up.

Speaker 2 Okay, well, then it would be closer to the Gettysburg Address. Yeah.

Speaker 11 So,

Speaker 81 and he was telling us to thank God.

Speaker 80 That's what he was telling us.

Speaker 40 And it wasn't for the dead soldiers, like you keep writing and saying, because I looked it all up.

Speaker 96 It was to thank God that he has mercy on us, even though we don't deserve it.

Speaker 57 There you go.

Speaker 96 There's your 300 words abbreviated.

Speaker 97 And that's somehow that turned into this crazy turkey pardoning stuff, which I also had to look up.

Speaker 2 Kennedy's the one who started that one. I do know that.

Speaker 11 No, I don't think so.

Speaker 21 Well, let's ask the robot.

Speaker 72 We don't know.

Speaker 32 Let's listen to a report.

Speaker 100 Gobble. There you go.

Speaker 2 I just want to tell you that it's very important.

Speaker 101 With an audience looking on, President Trump granted a full and complete pardon to a 52-pound turkey named Gobble, part of an annual White House holiday tradition.

Speaker 103 On behalf of the First Lady and the entire Trump family, I want to wish all Americans a very, very happy Thanksgiving. It's a great time of the year.

Speaker 106 His friend Waddell was also spared.

Speaker 101 He stopped by the White House briefing room earlier in the day.

Speaker 108 Want to give us a gobble?

Speaker 101 President Harry Truman was the first to be presented with a turkey by the National Turkey Federation ahead ahead of Thanksgiving. But the more modern presidential pardon dates back to George H.W.

Speaker 101 Bush.

Speaker 110 This will be our 78th presentation here, and it's just a true honor for the U.S.

Speaker 112 Turkey industry.

Speaker 13 Anyway, blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 43 So I looked it up.

Speaker 28 So Truman started this, but it wasn't, you know, I'm like, why do we pardon a turkey?

Speaker 47 I mean, I really would listen to this.

Speaker 2 It is dumb, yeah. It is.

Speaker 80 So Truman was trying to conserve grain for foreign aid to Europe after the Second World War.

Speaker 114 This is just what I found.

Speaker 36 So I believe this to be true.

Speaker 2 So he parted the turkey so they could eat the grain?

Speaker 43 No.

Speaker 23 No.

Speaker 32 His administration promoted meatless Tuesdays and poultry-less Thursdays.

Speaker 11 This enraged the industry.

Speaker 2 People were eating that much poultry?

Speaker 115 What?

Speaker 40 I'm just reading it.

Speaker 25 This enraged the poultry industry.

Speaker 47 And you'll notice that it's always the poultry union or whatever who

Speaker 11 selects the turkey.

Speaker 2 So before you continue,

Speaker 2 you've got Truman documented. I've heard about Kennedy, and then in the report you played, it was George H.W.
Bush.

Speaker 117 She said Truman first.

Speaker 114 She said Truman first.

Speaker 2 Did she say Truman? Yeah.

Speaker 2 I thought she said it, George H.W. Bush.

Speaker 109 President Harry Truman was the first to be presented with a

Speaker 43 Truman.

Speaker 2 Let it play.

Speaker 34 It's boring after that.

Speaker 101 Turkey by the National Turkey Federation ahead of Thanksgiving.

Speaker 85 The National Turkey.

Speaker 101 But the more modern presidential pardon dates back to George H.W. Bush.

Speaker 56 Yeah, so there you go.

Speaker 118 But there's a reason.

Speaker 24 Actually, it was Reagan before that.

Speaker 38 This was always used for political reasons.

Speaker 13 So

Speaker 120 what happened with Truman is the National Turkey Federation were mad that he had said, hey, don't eat any poultry on Thursday.

Speaker 47 And so in order to make it up to them,

Speaker 122 they sent crates of, well, they sent crates of, first they sent crates of live chickens to the White House in protest.

Speaker 48 And that's how this this presentation started.

Speaker 123 Then it was Reagan

Speaker 124 was just looking at the turkey.

Speaker 70 There was no pardoning of the turkey.

Speaker 64 I'd just be out there

Speaker 13 out front of the White House going, oh, yeah,

Speaker 20 about that turkey.

Speaker 113 Yeah, happy Thanksgiving, everybody.

Speaker 29 And I tried to get the audio, but it was really too, that wasn't good enough.

Speaker 51 A reporter yelled a question, like, Mr.

Speaker 24 President, are you going to pardon Oliver North and John Poindexter?

Speaker 48 And he says, no, I'd probably pardon this turkey before I did that for sure, or something to that effect.

Speaker 65 You can't really hear it.

Speaker 70 And that's kind of where the pardon came from.

Speaker 119 And now it's just become this

Speaker 80 Turkey Federation fest.

Speaker 85 Basically, it's a lobbying

Speaker 80 exercise for the Turkey Federation.

Speaker 60 Why else would we do it?

Speaker 122 It makes no sense.

Speaker 80 It's fun to look at the turkeys, I guess.

Speaker 78 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Well, when you have a 50-pounder.

Speaker 35 Well, those are beautiful turkeys. turkeys.

Speaker 2 So I'm going to read from the Grok. Or no, this is from

Speaker 2 OpenAI. President John F.
Kennedy was the first U.S.

Speaker 2 president on record to informally spare a Thanksgiving turkey in 1963 through a formal tradition of a presidential pardon was not established until 1989. That would be the

Speaker 2 George H.W.

Speaker 89 Bush.

Speaker 2 During a Rose Garden ceremony on November 19th, 1983, just three days before his assassination, this is why they killed him. Oh, Kennedy was presented with the king.

Speaker 7 Now we know the turkey people killed him.

Speaker 2 And by the way, this is interesting because Trump went on and on about this 50-pound turkey. Yeah.

Speaker 71 Gobble. Gobble.

Speaker 2 Kennedy was presented with a 55-pound turkey. Oh, no.

Speaker 2 From the National Turkey Federation.

Speaker 2 And the turkey had a sign on his neck that said, good eating, Mr.

Speaker 130 Puss.

Speaker 27 This is, it's just, it's just the best best lobbying organization in the business.

Speaker 53 Every single year they get to present their beautiful birds.

Speaker 57 Everyone's all hungry.

Speaker 131 Oh, yeah, I need a turkey.

Speaker 8 Because it makes no sense.

Speaker 2 Well, the whole thing is stupid.

Speaker 11 Yes.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 2 But I think it was great that they brought this one bird into the press room. Yeah,

Speaker 39 next to

Speaker 2 the other turkeys. Yeah.

Speaker 132 Next to her kid.

Speaker 14 What's her name?

Speaker 2 That was, what's his name? That's the kid of the press secretary. Yeah.

Speaker 2 So that, yes, the whole thing is ludicrous.

Speaker 45 All right.

Speaker 47 So now before you jump into the going down with the ship, I learned something important that you actually called me out on.

Speaker 61 I want to make sure that we just are aware of this before we get underway.

Speaker 2 Oh, that's interesting you say that because I have a

Speaker 2 caught

Speaker 2 I put aside a call out for you for something you did or said that was so on the money it's ridiculous and I've already forgotten what it is.

Speaker 11 Well, have to think.

Speaker 2 It'll come up, but you watch. This will come up during the three hours.

Speaker 53 So, this is from the anonymous TSA agent.

Speaker 53 And he says, on episode 18, 19, he made an offhanded comment about Marjorie Taylor Greene and something to the tune of, well, we all know the news of her resignation.

Speaker 95 And he says, I want you to know that I am one of, in my opinion, a not insignificant portion of the producer base who look to no agenda as our primary and near sole source of national and international news and analysis.

Speaker 98 And that isn't because we're too lazy to watch the news.

Speaker 73 It's because your show over the course of the last

Speaker 134 eight years has infected my mind

Speaker 34 and shown me that the M5M.

Speaker 137 Inspected it. Infected.

Speaker 66 Infected my mind.

Speaker 36 Infected.

Speaker 119 And show me that the M5M is nothing.

Speaker 97 is full of nothing but lying, two-faced, terrible people who will make you believe the sky is red if it gave them an extra penny on their paycheck that week.

Speaker 66 And I was thinking about it.

Speaker 34 Yeah, that's probably true.

Speaker 140 And I personally need to be more aware of that because

Speaker 119 we're wrapped up in it. This is what we do.

Speaker 95 We're watching everything.

Speaker 14 It's too much.

Speaker 48 We're watching the podcast circularity.

Speaker 141 Everybody going on each other's podcast, talking about their podcasts and how that podcast worked when I interviewed that podcaster on this podcast over there and debated that podcaster.

Speaker 142 And

Speaker 23 how many people are really on X?

Speaker 53 60 million?

Speaker 34 How many in America?

Speaker 140 You know,

Speaker 32 there's a good chance that 90% of America just wants to have a nice job, just wants to come home, have a beer, watch some Netflix, and maybe catch the No Agenda show to hear what's going on.

Speaker 2 Maybe, maybe not. I think the 90% don't even care that much.
The people that listen to No Agenda tend to at least have some desire to be up on current events. Yes.

Speaker 31 Well, and yes.

Speaker 14 Not everybody is.

Speaker 2 All you have to do is watch Jesse Waters' show when Johnny goes out and talks to the public at large.

Speaker 36 Exactly.

Speaker 2 You can see there's the real public.

Speaker 143 Yeah, exactly. So

Speaker 87 it kind of made me chuckle that all these people are so up in arms about America first, GOP.

Speaker 16 Like, that really doesn't matter at all

Speaker 136 to most people.

Speaker 122 To most people.

Speaker 31 So,

Speaker 114 yeah, use us as your primary source for news and deconstruction.

Speaker 2 News and blues.

Speaker 53 News and blues, everybody.

Speaker 51 So, I think you were correct.

Speaker 81 Before you get into your clips here,

Speaker 116 the seditious six, which I think is a good label for them.

Speaker 32 This is the

Speaker 32 setup.

Speaker 14 This is the

Speaker 1 impeachment team at work.

Speaker 143 Because this was all about the

Speaker 136 drug boats, as far as I could tell.

Speaker 2 I'm not so sure it was.

Speaker 2 I think it was a publicity. And by the way, and nobody has said this.

Speaker 2 I'm going to be the only one that says this because I believe that Schumer is more powerful than people think. He's not a

Speaker 2 dumb

Speaker 2 a-hole, like where everyone sees him. And he's behind this.
And one of the reasons I think he's behind is the people that are in this, which includes senators and congressmen, usually they don't mix.

Speaker 2 But luckily, Jeffries is a Schumer

Speaker 43 acolyte.

Speaker 2 And he's like, let them go ahead and put the Congressman in there with him.

Speaker 2 The phrase, don't give up the ship, is a Schumerism. It's the kind of stupid thing he'd say.
It makes no sense.

Speaker 145 It's like a super boomer term.

Speaker 2 It's totally. And you can just, and it's got his, he's been doing these publicity since for the last number of years.

Speaker 2 And they always, you know, the dancing Congress people, the people that, you know, all this crazy stuff that he dreams up is dumb. And he came up with this scheme.

Speaker 2 And he also brought some other people on to back him up. There's another clip floating around of a bunch of servicemen saying, yeah, they're right.

Speaker 2 And Trump's a bad guy for saying he wants to kill them when Trump never said that. But okay.

Speaker 31 But that's,

Speaker 18 I mean, even Trump knew that that's what they would take away from him.

Speaker 2 No, they're both playing the game. Yeah, obviously.

Speaker 2 But it's Schumer.

Speaker 2 And I have a three by three,

Speaker 2 which is the clips of

Speaker 2 what's going on. Because what's happened was Trump trying to

Speaker 2 the three by three.

Speaker 11 Let's see.

Speaker 14 Well, let's play the jingle first.

Speaker 2 He's on the button the whole time.

Speaker 11 Experiment, but jingle.

Speaker 144 comparing stories from abc cbs and wc

Speaker 2 the never-ending three by three all right this is okay i'm gonna draw a curveball and start with not the abc nbc cbs but play the uh npr

Speaker 71 uh

Speaker 2 summary which is a little more l or a little less

Speaker 145 slanted it's still slanted in their way breaking format the three by three we're gonna start with number four

Speaker 34 yeah you're killing me.

Speaker 46 You're killing me, Smalls.

Speaker 147 Six Democrats in Congress say they're being investigated by the FBI after they made a video telling members of the military that they can refuse illegal orders.

Speaker 147 President Trump called the message seditious behavior punishable by death. And pairs Sam Greenglass as more.

Speaker 148 The White House later said the president was not suggesting the six Democrats be killed, but the Trump administration has taken steps to potentially punish the group.

Speaker 148 The Pentagon launched an investigation into Arizona Senator Mark Kelly, and now all six say the FBI has requested interviews.

Speaker 148 Senator Alyssa Slotkin of Michigan told reporters on Tuesday that Trump is attempting to stifle criticism, including over the president's moves to strike alleged drug boats and dispatch troops in U.S.

Speaker 148 cities.

Speaker 149 This is a scare tactic by him. He is attempting to use the FBI to scare us out of continuing to talk.

Speaker 148 The FBI and the Justice Department declined to comment.

Speaker 28 My free speech.

Speaker 8 My free speech.

Speaker 31 I should be able to talk.

Speaker 2 So that was a fairly, you know, innocuous report.

Speaker 79 Yeah.

Speaker 2 It had them quoted. There was no other side of it, but it was Slotkin and Kelly in particular is a strong Schumer supporter.

Speaker 11 Oh, is that so?

Speaker 66 I did not know that.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he voted against. This is a military guy who voted against during the shutdown.
He, at the behest of Schumer, voted against against funding the military

Speaker 2 during the shutdown this is the how how how pro-military this guy is well i mean he's an astronaut

Speaker 40 yeah so we know he's a liar

Speaker 11 you know he's up there in the lab you know they got they got the belts on with the wires floating around so we have so we have the uh

Speaker 2 now the three by three they're all bad And I wanted, because I have a follow-up clip to the whole thing, which is the bonus clip, which I had. I was thinking about the three by three.

Speaker 2 Oh, God, I got to play this. At least have some balance here because

Speaker 2 they wouldn't balance these reports. So let's just start from.

Speaker 2 Do it alphabetically and go with ABC.

Speaker 118 ABC is up first.

Speaker 151 This evening, the FBI is now requesting interviews with six Democratic lawmakers who told military members in those videos that they do not have to follow.

Speaker 143 Is this like a podcast interview?

Speaker 95 The FBI wants you to come on their podcast.

Speaker 151 This evening, the FBI is now requesting interviews with six Democratic lawmakers who told military members in those videos that they do not have to follow illegal orders.

Speaker 151 President Trump accusing the lawmakers of seditious behavior punishable by death.

Speaker 151 Well, now the FBI is moving in on this, and the Pentagon is threatening to court-martial senator and retired astronaut Mark Kelly.

Speaker 153 Here's Rachel Scott tonight.

Speaker 154 Tonight, the FBI wants to talk to the six Democratic lawmakers who President Trump accused of seditious behavior punishable by death for recording this message to the military.

Speaker 155 I was a captain in the United States Navy.

Speaker 156 Former CIA officer. Former Navy.

Speaker 102 Telling service members they should not follow illegal orders.

Speaker 9 Our laws are clear.

Speaker 2 You can refuse illegal orders.

Speaker 102 Tonight, the FBI has requested interviews with all six lawmakers, including New Hampshire Congresswoman Maggie Goodlander, who served as an intelligence officer in the Navy Reserve.

Speaker 156 I will not be intimidated. I will not be harassed.
I will continue to do my job and uphold my oaths.

Speaker 102 It comes as the Pentagon threatens to court-martial Arizona Senator Mark Kelly, a retired Navy captain who flew 39 combat missions in Iraq before going on to become an astronaut.

Speaker 154 Today, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseff called the video a, quote, politically motivated influence operation. Senator Kelly explaining why the lawmakers used the words they did.

Speaker 155 We basically repeated the Uniform Code of Military Justice, and they're saying that's in violation of the Uniform Code of Military Justice.

Speaker 40 It's absurd.

Speaker 157 The Defense Secretary continues to attack Senator Mark Kelly, now sending a letter to the Secretary of the Navy asking for a review of his comments for potentially unlawful conduct, saying he wants to be briefed on the matter no later than December 10th, David.

Speaker 14 No,

Speaker 36 after the Thanksgiving Day holiday and a couple of.

Speaker 53 Hey, by the way, are you guys celebrating Thanksgiving today or in December?

Speaker 2 Come on.

Speaker 2 We have a dinner today, but we're Thanksgiving. It would either be tomorrow or Saturday.
Okay.

Speaker 57 Why do it on the day?

Speaker 1 Why? It doesn't make sense.

Speaker 120 No, it makes no sense.

Speaker 2 So.

Speaker 2 okay, let's say alphabetical order, CBS.

Speaker 158 This 90-second-long video

Speaker 158 has ignited a week of controversy and now an inquiry by the FBI into the six Democratic members of Congress who recorded it

Speaker 158 and who urged service members not to follow unlawful orders.

Speaker 94 Who must refuse illegal orders?

Speaker 160 All six are veterans of the military or the intelligence community.

Speaker 158 CBS News has learned the FBI told congressional leaders Monday that the Bureau wants to speak speak with each of them. Michigan Senator Alyssa Slotkin is one.

Speaker 110 The president's reaction and the use of the FBI against us is exactly why we made the video.

Speaker 149 He believes in using the federal government against his perceived adversaries, and he's not afraid to use the arms of the government against people he disagrees with.

Speaker 158 Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth launched a separate probe of Senator Mark Kelly, a retired Navy captain, accusing Kelly of misconduct and threatening him with a court-martial.

Speaker 155 I'm not going to be silenced. I'm not going to be intimidated.

Speaker 160 Last week, President Trump accused the Democrats of seditious behavior, punishable by death.

Speaker 158 Each of the six say they've since been menaced by death.

Speaker 88 That's not true.

Speaker 78 Colorado Democrats

Speaker 2 say what? He didn't accuse anybody.

Speaker 44 Who, Trump?

Speaker 2 No, he just said sedition is, you know, whatever, punishable by death. He didn't say this guy did it.

Speaker 158 Accusing Kelly of misconduct and threatening him with a court-martial.

Speaker 155 I'm not going to be be silenced. I'm not going to be intimidated.

Speaker 160 Last week, President Trump accused the Democrats of seditious behavior, punishable by death.

Speaker 158 Each of the six say they've since been menaced by death threats.

Speaker 158 Colorado Democrat Jason Crowe released some audio of the calls.

Speaker 113 You deserve to die.

Speaker 59 I hope you all get murdered.

Speaker 160 White House press secretary Caroline Levitt said the Democrats who recorded the video need to be held accountable.

Speaker 110 You can't have a functioning military if there is disorder and chaos within the ranks.

Speaker 164 Just because there's an inquiry doesn't mean somebody's the target of a criminal investigation. And these members of Congress have a number of defenses.

Speaker 158 The literal truth: military service members are to disregard unlawful orders.

Speaker 164 And they have First Amendment rights on steroids.

Speaker 162 They have a speech and debate clause protecting their speech uniquely.

Speaker 164 But John and Maurice, just the inquiry itself has a cost, financial time and energy for these six Democrats.

Speaker 2 So there was a lie in there about Trump, and there was also a lie at the end because they do have the special speech exemption on the floor of the Congress. Yep, they do.

Speaker 2 Not while you're floating around.

Speaker 57 Not on a video that you did in your office.

Speaker 165 Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 2 So that was really poor. CBS, this is where's Barry Weiss?

Speaker 2 By the way, we're never going to let this up.

Speaker 13 Where's Barry?

Speaker 54 Barry, what you're doing. Where's Barry Weiss?

Speaker 166 Barry Weiss.

Speaker 119 Get on the ball, girl.

Speaker 2 Shot Barry Weiss. Why isn't she

Speaker 2 putting her

Speaker 2 impromatur on this thing? Okay, let's go to the NBC.

Speaker 167 Tonight, an escalating clash between the president and Democrats over rules governing military orders.

Speaker 167 The FBI is seeking interviews with these six lawmakers, according to a person familiar with plans.

Speaker 27 And those Democrats pushed back.

Speaker 167 President Trump is using the FBI as a tool to intimidate and harass members of Congress.

Speaker 12 You can refuse illegal orders.

Speaker 167 The video to troops by Democrats with military and intel experience did not identify any specific orders. The White House says it undercuts the Commander-in-Chief.

Speaker 110 They can't identify illegal orders because there are no illegal orders.

Speaker 167 Arizona Senator Mark Kelly, a retired Navy combat pilot, responding.

Speaker 155 Rachel, I'm not going to be silenced. I'm not going to be intimidating.

Speaker 167 Separately, partisanship made its way into a typically politics-free tradition.

Speaker 104 Gobble and waddle.

Speaker 146 The turkey pardon.

Speaker 31 The president again pressuring Democratic leadership over crime in Illinois.

Speaker 169 We've been moving toward Chicago.

Speaker 34 Oh, I love the nat pop.

Speaker 62 Gobble and waddle.

Speaker 99 That's perfect.

Speaker 2 So these reports were slanted very slightly

Speaker 2 without just even disregarding the lies that are in the CBS report.

Speaker 2 But there was no balance at all whatsoever. It was all these, you know, this

Speaker 2 using using the FBI as a bludgeon.

Speaker 2 So to balance it, I found a guy that's, and I did some research on him, this Buzz Patterson character who was in the Clinton administration, and he was

Speaker 2 a military, he's a military guy with high,

Speaker 2 he's very highly regarded. He did a couple of books.

Speaker 2 He was in the Clinton administration, even though he turned into a Republican afterwards.

Speaker 2 He may have been all the time.

Speaker 2 So I just checked him out, so he's legit. So this would have been a nice guy to put in there as a balancing point.

Speaker 11 Oh, excuse me.

Speaker 56 Can I get Barry Weiss on the line?

Speaker 119 John Cedar Warak wants to head up the news desk.

Speaker 2 So anybody could figure this out. You could get somebody to say, they won't do it.
They would never put something like this on. This is

Speaker 2 another.

Speaker 2 Fox does. They bring all these military guys on and say, yeah, those guys are doofuses and dumb.
They were stupid.

Speaker 2 And they go on and on. But this guy, this was posted on his Twitter account by him.

Speaker 2 And I thought it would have been a good to balance your coverage a little bit. You'd have something like this.

Speaker 171 Hey, everybody, this is Buzz Patterson.

Speaker 172 I'm a retired Air Force Lieutenant Colonel, retired Air Force pilot, combat veteran.

Speaker 171 And at one time, I was the military aide to President Bill Clinton and carried the nuclear football and actually lived in the White House.

Speaker 88 So I've been around.

Speaker 171 I was actually, during my military service, deployed to 70 countries and fought in three wars.

Speaker 119 These are his bona fides, bona fides.

Speaker 105 So I feel like I've got

Speaker 171 a dog in this hunt.

Speaker 171 I am very appalled at what the Sedition Six has done with their video.

Speaker 171 I think it's a violation of their oaths of office, and especially in the case of Senator Mark Kelly, I believe it's a violation of the UCMJ, and I hope that President Trump and Secretary of War Pete Hegseth hold them accountable.

Speaker 171 They are violating and they are

Speaker 171 politically using their positions to undercut the command of President Donald J. Trump, and they're circumventing the chain of command.
Congress and members of Senate are not in the chain of command.

Speaker 171 President Trump is, however, as our commander-in-chief. So I fully support going forward

Speaker 171 with whatever prosecutions are warranted and legitimate, and I think they are,

Speaker 171 on these individuals. They use their positions, military and in the intelligence community, to

Speaker 171 expose, I think, and put at risk those of us who serve in uniform. I think that what's going to happen is because they violated the military chain of command, people are going to die.

Speaker 171 They undercut the underpinnings of the military, which is good order and faith and trust in their leadership.

Speaker 171 In my estimation, what they did was treasonous and seditionist, and I hope they are prosecuted to the full extent.

Speaker 99 Okay.

Speaker 81 So before I give you some analysis that I have,

Speaker 13 I really thought this was mainly about the

Speaker 138 ships, the drug boats that they're blowing out of the water.

Speaker 87 What did you think it was about?

Speaker 2 I don't think it was.

Speaker 2 I can't say that I know what it was about or why it was done. I mean, it was one of the good because Schumer does these things out of the blue.

Speaker 2 But if you wanted to take the position that it was about the drug boats because it's it's sketchy,

Speaker 2 I don't think there's any doubt about that. Well,

Speaker 34 in my mind.

Speaker 2 I mean, it's no different than what Obama did.

Speaker 11 No, no, but

Speaker 115 we've been through that, but you are the one.

Speaker 2 I'm not going to stop stopping.

Speaker 140 But you were the one that put me on the track of they're making such a big deal about no, I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 You said he's going to be impeached over it.

Speaker 91 If the Democrats win in the midterms, they will impeach Trump over the drug boast.

Speaker 48 That was what you said.

Speaker 2 Yes, and I still believe that to be true.

Speaker 56 So wouldn't it be a total Schumer move to do this?

Speaker 2 Softening body punches.

Speaker 51 Yeah, whatever.

Speaker 2 Soften up the public's mentality for this sort of thing.

Speaker 36 Yes. Okay.

Speaker 28 So, and to me, it's like, that's it.

Speaker 141 That's what it was about.

Speaker 83 And that made a lot of sense.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I'm not going to argue against you on this. No, because

Speaker 2 it's your counterargument against your thinking.

Speaker 38 You don't have to say that every single thing.

Speaker 57 You can just say, yeah, I agree. That's fine.

Speaker 42 You don't have to go. No,

Speaker 2 I try to vary it. I make it.
No, you never agree. You're great.
You're right. You're terrific.
I can't imagine a better analysis.

Speaker 174 You've never

Speaker 174 seen that.

Speaker 35 You could just say, I agree.

Speaker 2 You're good to go. I can say that.

Speaker 38 Yeah, yeah, yeah, but you can't get it out of your mouth.

Speaker 34 I agree.

Speaker 11 It's okay. I agree.

Speaker 1 I agree.

Speaker 2 What you just said, I agree. I can't get it out of my mouth.

Speaker 2 I agree. I can't get it out of my mouth.
I can't do it.

Speaker 64 So we have a producer who was uniquely qualified to analyze this case, and that is Rob, the Constitutional Lawyer.

Speaker 176 Before private practice, he was a JAG,

Speaker 125 a military lawyer.

Speaker 39 So he knows this stuff.

Speaker 66 And he gave me, of course, a very detailed analysis, which I will not go through all the way.

Speaker 36 But he did say that

Speaker 39 there's some interesting sides to this, depending on how what they said is interpreted.

Speaker 46 Besides the UCMJ, the military code, there are provisions in the U.S.

Speaker 55 code that apply to civilians as well,

Speaker 56 most notably the anti-Tokyo Rose statute.

Speaker 80 Did you even know this existed?

Speaker 32 I didn't even know this existed.

Speaker 32 So give a little background.

Speaker 14 Hold on a second.

Speaker 39 Let's ask the bot.

Speaker 51 Who was Tokyo Rose?

Speaker 53 Tell me about her.

Speaker 93 Tokyo Rose was a name given to English-speaking women who worked for Japanese propaganda stations during World War II, broadcasting to Allied troops.

Speaker 93 The most well-known of these women was Iva Otogori DeQuino. Is there anything specific you'd like to learn about her?

Speaker 71 Nope, that's fine.

Speaker 15 I thought it was only one.

Speaker 150 I didn't know there was more than one Tokyo Rose.

Speaker 20 So anyway, Tokyo Rose...

Speaker 2 That one she mentioned is the famous one.

Speaker 53 Yeah, and so she was demoralizing the troops.

Speaker 136 Let's put it that way.

Speaker 2 Yeah, well, she would. The Germans had a guy, a bunch of guys doing this too.
They had it over at a certain

Speaker 2 recording.

Speaker 11 Interestingly,

Speaker 21 those were British agents, I just learned.

Speaker 61 Those German broadcasters who were broadcasting into Germany around 43,

Speaker 36 British agents.

Speaker 87 Different story for a different time.

Speaker 2 No, I'm talking about Germans broadcasting to England. Oh, okay.

Speaker 27 So

Speaker 34 the anti-Tokyo Rose statute makes it unlawful to foment insubordination, disloyalty, mutiny, or refusal of duty by any military member.

Speaker 17 He says this is pretty broad.

Speaker 2 Okay, well, now I have to stop you. I'll have to pull a Kara.

Speaker 2 Why hasn't I? This is the first I've heard of this.

Speaker 2 Why hasn't any of these commentators, or why haven't any of the commentators on all the networks of all

Speaker 2 the Barry Weiss-run operation at CBS and everybody else in between? How come not one person except our guy

Speaker 2 can come up with this?

Speaker 39 Check your bank account.

Speaker 60 Do you have $150 million for your podcast?

Speaker 35 No.

Speaker 40 That's why.

Speaker 32 We have one thing.

Speaker 55 We've got producers. We've got the best producers in the universe.

Speaker 140 I'm with you on that.

Speaker 2 A note of annoyance.

Speaker 12 I agree.

Speaker 82 I agree with your annoyance.

Speaker 87 He says, although 2387 is a civilian statute, it can still be used in a court-martial by charging it under UCMJ Articles 133, 134.

Speaker 60 These are conduct unbecoming of an officer and a gentleman.

Speaker 14 Wow, that's a great title for a movie.

Speaker 119 Which makes it an offense for an officer to engage in basically any conduct that a court-martial may find unbecoming.

Speaker 177 Yes, says Rob, that's pretty dang, he's Texan, pretty dang broad.

Speaker 131 It would make a violation of 2387,

Speaker 119 which is makes it an offense for any troop, officer, or enlisted, to engage in any conduct that discredits the armed forces or is in prejudicial or is

Speaker 54 prejudicial to good order and discipline.

Speaker 119 Again, broad enough to encompass a violation.

Speaker 2 Prejudicial.

Speaker 118 Prejudicial.

Speaker 57 Yes.

Speaker 39 Now, could Kelly be convicted?

Speaker 13 Rob doubts it.

Speaker 89 He says

Speaker 88 the six Democrats are suggesting that lawful orders are, in fact, unlawful.

Speaker 46 And if they are suggesting that, which is really an interpretation of the language, because they didn't really, they said unlawful laws.

Speaker 12 They didn't say

Speaker 129 lawful orders that are unlawful.

Speaker 59 They said unlawful orders.

Speaker 46 Kelly's situation could become interesting in that case

Speaker 38 if

Speaker 13 he could be recalled to active duty, and then they could prosecute him.

Speaker 119 But his conclusion really is, unless we're going for the Tokyo Rose option,

Speaker 47 he doesn't think that anything that was said would support a conviction.

Speaker 2 Okay, that brings me to a meta point.

Speaker 2 We're not going with the Tokyo Rose thing. It's not mentioned by anybody, even the administration, Hexeth, or anybody else, because because they know they could use that and it would work.

Speaker 2 They don't want it to work.

Speaker 47 Ah, meta, very meta.

Speaker 71 Yeah.

Speaker 2 That's why we were stunned by, or I'm stunned. I know you maybe were stunned when you got the note.
You're not stunned now.

Speaker 2 When it comes here with the Tokyo Rose analysis, they're not going to, no one's going to bring it up because they don't want to actually pursue it to an extreme where Mark Kelly would get thrown in the slammer because it would cause a, it would be a great publicity stunt the same way it worked against

Speaker 2 the Democrats when they tried to put Trump in jail. His popularity zoomed and he got to be president.
Again, you can't take a chance.

Speaker 40 Good point.

Speaker 177 There's no way I can argue that with you.

Speaker 2 That's one of my phrases. Yes.

Speaker 21 No kidding.

Speaker 165 No kidding.

Speaker 2 So that would explain the

Speaker 2 non-appearance of the Tokyo Rose commentary on the networks.

Speaker 22 Yeah.

Speaker 2 And within the administration.

Speaker 2 You know, if some smart, smarty pants that was in the press room could throw it at Carolyn Levitt, that exact same thing,

Speaker 51 it would stir up a problem.

Speaker 2 I mean, we're the only ones mentioning it. It'll never get brought up by anybody.

Speaker 119 Although, I don't know if Trump even knows about it because he could put all kinds of fun labels, you know, Tokyo Kelly Rose. You know, he could do all kinds of stuff like that.

Speaker 11 And

Speaker 11 he could have a field day with it.

Speaker 178 So

Speaker 53 I think we're in agreement that it's going nowhere.

Speaker 119 It's fun for the Thanksgiving holidays.

Speaker 2 This is like Comer, James Comer's.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 2 we connected the dots. We got Hunter Biden's all the bank accounts.
We're going to get him. We're going to get him.
Nothing ever comes of it. This is all theater of dimensional theater.

Speaker 2 It's ridiculous.

Speaker 55 Well, then there's another legal battle that took place, which I got, I finally found a report that mentioned the two important words.

Speaker 81 I had to get it from Canada.

Speaker 53 This is about Comey and Letitia James.

Speaker 179 For the White House, it's an embarrassing double defeat that causes out the rushed and politically directed prosecutions of New York Attorney General Letitia James and former FBI Director James Comey.

Speaker 11 I'm grateful that the court ended the case against me, which was a prosecution based on malevolence and incompetence.

Speaker 179 The cases fell apart after a federal judge ruled prosecutor Lindsay Halligan was illegally appointed, nullifying her work.

Speaker 110 The Department of Justice will be appealing very soon, and it is our position that Lindsay Halligan is extremely qualified for this position, but more importantly, was legally appointed.

Speaker 179 Halligan had never prosecuted a case before, but was handpicked by President Donald Trump to go after his perceived enemies after career prosecutors warned there wasn't enough evidence to move ahead.

Speaker 88 No evidence!

Speaker 104 We have to act fast, one way or the other. One way or the other.
They're guilty, they're not guilty, we have to act fast.

Speaker 183 The case is a mess, and it's really amateur hour there at the DOJ, and it's really their own doing because of the timing and the experience of the prosecutor they put on this case.

Speaker 179 While grand juries later indicted both Comey and James, the cases were always considered legally shaky and open to claims of vindictive prosecution.

Speaker 167 This is nothing more than a continuation of the president's desperate weaponization of his justice system.

Speaker 179 The failure is a major blow to Trump's efforts to bend the justice system to his will. There's little reason to think it will end the president's demands for specific prosecution.

Speaker 179 The cases against both Comey and James were dismissed without prejudice, meaning they can be brought again.

Speaker 179 But that's assuming the administration can actually find another prosecutor who's willing to take them on.

Speaker 7 Without prejudice.

Speaker 2 Where did this report come from?

Speaker 2 That's the most slanted report I've heard for a long time. Well, except for the.
Trying to bend him to his will.

Speaker 13 Yeah, but

Speaker 120 my point, all reports were like that, but they at least mentioned without prejudice.

Speaker 28 because this wasn't about them not being guilty.

Speaker 11 But if you believe the headlines and the lower thirds and the break-egg news flash, you'd think, oh, well, the double defeat, they're out. They got away.

Speaker 7 It was a what?

Speaker 14 Stop the presses.

Speaker 18 So without prejudice means, okay, so you can just bring it again.

Speaker 120 Now, there's some statute of limitations.

Speaker 2 They also have with prejudice, which means you can't. Can't, yes.

Speaker 55 But there's some statute of limitations, which expired or expired.

Speaker 113 And so it's hopefully they'll still be able to get him because of all the people, Comey is definitely a rat.

Speaker 66 Definitely no good, that guy.

Speaker 131 No good.

Speaker 2 And then he did that comment that was in that clip where

Speaker 2 he never lets up. He's just asking for trouble.

Speaker 2 He says, and there are always a bunch of millennial bastards. I don't know what he said, but it was negative.
I think

Speaker 2 I have this from PBS. I have the

Speaker 2 report about this.

Speaker 2 Or actually, no, it's not about this specifically. It's about the other stuff, where his indictments, where Trump's indictments have been kicked.

Speaker 105 End of a chapter in American history.

Speaker 105 The final criminal charges against President Donald Trump have been dropped after a prosecutor in Georgia moved to dismiss the case, focused on a push to overturn the 2020 election results in the state.

Speaker 105 President, as we remember, was one of 19 suspects. That's his mugshot back then, including his former chief of staff, Mark Meadows, as well as former attorney Rudy Giuliani.

Speaker 2 What happened today?

Speaker 109 I want to remind our viewers that this was all precipitated by a phone call, an infamous phone call now, between President Trump and Georgia's Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger.

Speaker 184 So what are we going to do here, folks? I only need 11,000 votes. Fellas, I need 11,000 votes.
Give me a break.

Speaker 184 You know, we have that in spades already.

Speaker 109 Nick, that phone call happened at the beginning of January January in 2021.

Speaker 109 By February, just a month later, the district attorney in Fulton County, Georgia, Fonnie Willis, had opened a criminal investigation into that phone call and whether the president was pressuring the Secretary of State to overturn the election results in Georgia.

Speaker 109 This resulted in a long legal battle, and there were criminal charges that were brought against the president and these 18 other co-defendants in August of 2023.

Speaker 109 Now, this was considered a RICO or a racketeering case. It was sweeping.
There were different charges against different defendants here.

Speaker 109 But this was all a number of people that are high profile and that I think our viewers would remember.

Speaker 109 Mark Meadows, the former White House Chief of Staff, Rudy Giuliani, the president's personal attorney, were caught up in this as well.

Speaker 109 These charges were all dismissed today by the special prosecutor down there, who has just recently been appointed to oversee this.

Speaker 109 He asked for these charges to be formally dismissed by the judge, basically saying that he does not think that there is enough information to bring this.

Speaker 18 You know, before you continue, there's an

Speaker 76 interesting timing on this.

Speaker 95 There's a couple of guys doing the rounds on the podcasts,

Speaker 87 notably Gary Berntson.

Speaker 95 And he showed up on Going Rogue with Laura Logan, so you know that there's more behind it.

Speaker 11 And

Speaker 12 he wrote a book, and it's nothing that we haven't heard before, but he lays it out, and I don't have any clips of it.

Speaker 55 You can go listen to the podcast.

Speaker 52 He lays out pretty well how the Dominion voting machines were rigged with software from, I want to say it's Symantic, Symant Symantec or something, and that that software, and this is why the timing is so interesting.

Speaker 95 And this was all funded by Patrick Byrne, the former Overstock CEO.

Speaker 53 You'll recall, he was in and out of the White House at the time with everybody else.

Speaker 84 It completely vindicates.

Speaker 2 Patrick Burns is also the guy who played the clip

Speaker 2 with Hillary Clinton, FBI dropped, set up for the bribe.

Speaker 51 So it completely believable.

Speaker 116 And this book retraces the history of the vote-changing software,

Speaker 40 which just as a vibe coder, completely believable.

Speaker 82 We've heard this so many times.

Speaker 95 There's been some forensic evidence that we've seen. There's been so much throughout the years

Speaker 114 since the 2020 election.

Speaker 87 But it is all completely traced back to.

Speaker 11 Stop.

Speaker 2 Before the 2020 election, we have to go back way before that when the George W. Bush

Speaker 2 election, when they had the D-Bold machines.

Speaker 78 Yes.

Speaker 2 Or Diebold. Diebold.

Speaker 37 Diebold.

Speaker 2 Completely different company making these same election machines. And they were supposedly rigged.
That's the only way Bush could win. It was the Republicans rigging the machines, supposedly, again,

Speaker 2 and everyone bitched and moaned and groaned about it. And then the Democrats turned the tables, and now they have the machines.

Speaker 2 And it's a different company, Diebold had stopped making the machines because it was, I don't know, I'd like to look into how that happened.

Speaker 11 Well, it just gave up.

Speaker 66 When you follow the history of these electronic voting machines, it's all based on the same software.

Speaker 53 The software kept getting sold to different companies.

Speaker 55 So it was the software that just got put into new hardware.

Speaker 126 But going all the way back, and here's where it gets interesting: this software was first used to steal an election in Venezuela.

Speaker 39 So you see how things, there's all these things happening kind of at the same minute.

Speaker 60 We've got a whole fleet offshore there.

Speaker 37 Right, we're bombing.

Speaker 11 Right.

Speaker 138 A lot of stuff going on.

Speaker 2 So, you know, too many coincidences.

Speaker 36 Exactly.

Speaker 113 Exactly.

Speaker 14 Coincidence?

Speaker 105 Coincidence?

Speaker 185 I I think not.

Speaker 61 No coincidences.

Speaker 80 All right, let's continue.

Speaker 36 This is part two of your PBS.

Speaker 109 It is too sweeping of an indictment, and it would take too long because the president is a sitting president right now. He does not believe he can charge a sitting president.

Speaker 105 So tell us more about this prosecutor

Speaker 105 and, as you were saying, you know, why does he feel like this case needed to be dropped?

Speaker 109 Pierre Scandalakis is the prosecutor that took over for Fonnie Willis there when she was taken off of this case. There was some legal drama around that.

Speaker 109 He took over this case just recently and he released this 23-page filing today.

Speaker 109 And I spoke earlier today with Gene Rossi, who's a former federal prosecutor, and he offered his interpretation of why this was dismissed.

Speaker 169 And the word TOO

Speaker 186 comes to mind here. This indictment had too many defendants, including President Trump.
It had too many counts.

Speaker 186 And it was going to take too long to try this case if they did it in one trial.

Speaker 186 And when I'm reading this decision by this special prosecutor, I get the impression he looked at this indictment and he said, what a hot mess.

Speaker 187 It's just a lot of things put together, a hodgepodge of charges, allegations.

Speaker 186 And frankly, he didn't like it and he didn't like it that it was against the sitting president.

Speaker 109 And Nick Peter Skandelakis also wrote today in this decision, this legal filing.

Speaker 109 He said that given the complexity of the legal issues at hand, bringing this case before a jury in 2029, 2030, or even 2031 would be nothing short of a remarkable feat.

Speaker 152 Is this the end?

Speaker 109 It sounds like it is. According to Scandilakis, I mean, he has asked the judge in this case to fully dismiss all of the charges against the president and these other 18 co-defendants here.

Speaker 44 Yeah, that had to be cleaned up.

Speaker 11 Probably right.

Speaker 2 But

Speaker 2 the jokes on the poor guys who did the plea deal. And his last clip kind of brings that up.

Speaker 73 Yeah, they're sorry. They're screwed.

Speaker 109 Rossi also sort of summed this up, I think, nicely too.

Speaker 186 I think a snowball in a certain part of the world has a better chance of survival than this case.

Speaker 187 This case is dead.

Speaker 186 And

Speaker 187 I can't see how it could possibly be resurrected in Georgia or in any other state.

Speaker 109 And this is overall a win for the president and for his allies here. And the president posting about this on Truth Social today, saying that justice had prevailed here.

Speaker 73 Justice has prevailed.

Speaker 81 You know, I just thought of another instance, Obama and Romney.

Speaker 145 Do you remember watching that, those results coming back, and all of a sudden, boom, Obama just skyrocketed over Romney and he just went home?

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 11 You know, it's

Speaker 2 amazing. Romney was one of the worst candidates they've ever had.

Speaker 11 Well, still, he was doing.

Speaker 115 He didn't try hard.

Speaker 11 He was doing, he was, we saw the results.

Speaker 95 The way that just flipped on a dime was crazy.

Speaker 34 Whether he was going going to win or not.

Speaker 38 I mean, we just all saw it.

Speaker 2 Like, what? Yeah, that was totally.

Speaker 138 We weren't thinking about rigged voting.

Speaker 51 That was triple.

Speaker 2 I mean, first you put up a weak candidate, and even if he starts to win, it's rigged every which way. That guy was

Speaker 2 turned out to be a bonehead anyway.

Speaker 46 So then we have the next bit of shenanigans, which is the leaked phone call, which is on par with

Speaker 53 Trump's leaked phone call with Zelensky, which they impeached them over, which, as you know, was a perfect phone call.

Speaker 1 It was.

Speaker 40 It was perfect.

Speaker 97 So here's

Speaker 89 this is SCNN.

Speaker 159 The fallout continues after a phone conversation between Special Envoy Steve Witkoff and a top Putin aide, Yuri Yushikov. That conversation was leaked to Bloomberg.

Speaker 159 In the October 14th call, Witkoff appears to coach his Russian counterpart on how to approach President Trump ahead of a scheduled meeting with Ukraine's president, Vladimir Zelensky.

Speaker 159 According to Bloomberg, Witkoff Witkoff says in the call, quote, Yuri, Yuri, here's what I would do. My recommendation.

Speaker 54 Wow,

Speaker 11 I like the acting.

Speaker 54 Let me read this.

Speaker 8 Yuri, Yuri, now I'm in the role.

Speaker 20 I'm completely, now I'm Steve Witkoff.

Speaker 159 President Vladimir Zelensky. According to Bloomberg, Witkoff says in the call, quote, Yuri, Yuri, here's what I would do.
My recommendation, and then Yushikov replies, yes, please.

Speaker 159 Witkoff continues, I would make the call and just reiterate that you congratulate the president on his achievement, that you supported it, that you supported it, and you respect that he's a man of peace, and you're just really glad to have seen it happen.

Speaker 159 They were talking about the deal at that point between Israel and Hamas over Gaza. Later in the conversation, according to Bloomberg, Wickoff says,

Speaker 159 Me to you, I know what it's going to take to get a peace deal done, Donetsk, and maybe a land swap somewhere, but I'm saying instead of talking like that, let's talk more, hopefully, because I think we're going to get a deal here.

Speaker 159 Now, President Trump last night appeared to brush off the call, saying it was, quote, a standard thing.

Speaker 24 Wait, wait, wait, President Trump appeared to brush off the call?

Speaker 11 Did he have a big balloon bubble over his head that says, oh, man, I'm in trouble?

Speaker 136 I mean, what is ⁇ how about President Trump brushed off the call?

Speaker 97 Why is he saying appeared?

Speaker 11 Oh,

Speaker 2 that's a great catch now that you mentioned it.

Speaker 2 It's appeared to make it seem as though he's two-faced. In other words, he's saying one thing and doing another.
Instead of, you know, we're always trying to promote, or we, not we, but the

Speaker 2 Republicans are trying to promote Trump as a truth teller. And he never doesn't do this kind of shenanigans where

Speaker 2 he's saying one thing and doing another. He's doing what he says he's going to do, and he does it.
And so

Speaker 2 to use the word appeared means he might not be sincere.

Speaker 40 Yes.

Speaker 2 To the eyes of the reporter. Yes.

Speaker 159 Instead of talking like that, let's talk more, hopefully, because I think we're going to get a deal here.

Speaker 159 Now, President Trump last night appeared to brush off the call, saying it was, quote, a standard thing. Meanwhile, supporters of Ukraine and Congress, including some Republicans, are up in arms.

Speaker 37 Among them is Republican top again.

Speaker 2 I have to say that this is an example of what Scott Adams always likes to say is mind-reading.

Speaker 40 No, of course.

Speaker 2 Yeah, they do this way too much. And

Speaker 2 the news media is always constantly mind-reading.

Speaker 2 He brushed off the call. You're right.

Speaker 159 Meanwhile, supporters of Ukraine and Congress, including some Republicans, are up in arms. Among them is Republican Congressman Don Bacon from Nebraska, who posted this on social media.

Speaker 159 For those who oppose the Russian invasion and want to see Ukraine prevail as a sovereign and democratic country, it is clear that Wickoff fully favors the Russians.

Speaker 159 He cannot be trusted to lead these negotiations. Would a Russian paid agent do less than he? He should be fired.

Speaker 34 All right, so we're smoking out more people from the Republican Party here.

Speaker 2 Yes, that guy's a good example.

Speaker 2 I have the report that you just played. I have the PBS version of it,

Speaker 2 which includes

Speaker 2 it's actually maybe funnier

Speaker 2 because

Speaker 2 they play it down in such a screwball way. This is the clips called Ukraine War Update.

Speaker 105 Today, U.S. officials told PBS NewsHour they are making progress toward a document designed to end the nearly four-year grinding war.
But today in Ukraine, the war raged on.

Speaker 105 Today in Ukraine, civilians pay the price of war. Terrified residents of Zaporizhia.

Speaker 17 But who else is supposed to pray the price?

Speaker 32 That's always civilians.

Speaker 31 What does that, what does that even mean?

Speaker 23 Civilians pay the price.

Speaker 31 Of course,

Speaker 7 human beings pay the price.

Speaker 105 Terrified residents of Zaporizhia watch their homes burn. They grab prized possessions and feel peace is impossibly far.
Asked about U.S. diplomacy.

Speaker 168 I don't know what to think. Looking at what's happened, this doesn't feel much like a peace plan.

Speaker 11 Do you believe in peace?

Speaker 182 No.

Speaker 168 If I let myself believe that, then peace will come at a very high cost, the cost of our lives.

Speaker 105 The first draft of the U.S.

Speaker 105 peace plan required Ukraine to reduce the size of its military by almost a third, abandon ambitions to join NATO, and give up and demilitarize territory in Donetsk that Russia has failed to seize despite 11 years of war.

Speaker 105 Recently, Recently, Russia's called the fall of Donetsk inevitable.

Speaker 147 A position in Donetsk.

Speaker 144 What?

Speaker 2 Did you hear what he said in there? He just slipped it in.

Speaker 100 The fog of war.

Speaker 2 No, they said 11 years. Oh.

Speaker 105 Rise territory in Donetsk that Russia has failed to seize despite 11 years of war.

Speaker 2 It's not been 11 years.

Speaker 2 Well, they're going by

Speaker 2 2014 to 2014. Yeah, they're going back, but that's not when the war started.

Speaker 72 Not the full-scale invasion.

Speaker 2 It was just a kind of what was going on then what i mean they took crimea and then everything kind of came to a stand there was no war going on these these people at pbs want war

Speaker 1 somebody wants yes well

Speaker 185 11 years of war is a little i think 11 years of war makes it a little more like uh more historic yeah like the yeah yeah yeah russia bad recently rush has called the fall of donetsk inevitable a position endorsed last night by president trumpets if you look it's just moving in one direction So eventually that's land that over the next couple of months might be gotten by Russia anyway.

Speaker 105 Today, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky called that assessment unacceptable.

Speaker 99 Unacceptable.

Speaker 81 I'm an actor, damn it.

Speaker 24 All right, you're kind of me.

Speaker 47 You're kind of moving away from where I wanted to go, but I'll stick with you.

Speaker 2 Well, yeah, but this next clip brings us back to kind of what you were playing a minute ago.

Speaker 71 Okay.

Speaker 173 Russians are peddling the narrative around the world that Ukraine allegedly cannot defend itself.

Speaker 173 The daily results of our special forces and our deep strikes, these are all proof that Ukraine can defend its interests.

Speaker 173 It is not Ukraine that must be pressured for peace, but Russia.

Speaker 105 U.S. and European officials tell PBS News our recent negotiations have produced significant edits and agreements on most points.

Speaker 105 But Ukraine wants the most difficult decision about giving up territory discussed directly by Presidents Trump and Zelensky.

Speaker 105 Next week, Special Envoy Steve Witkoff will go to Russia to meet Vladimir Putin, who today described progress.

Speaker 189 I'll be happy to inform you about the direction of achieving acceptable and sought-after results for us in Ukraine by peaceful means.

Speaker 105 Russia's confidence in a U.S. deal is now reflected by Witkoff's own words.

Speaker 105 Yesterday, Bloomberg published an unprecedented leaked transcript of a phone conversation between Witkoff and Putin's top foreign policy aide, Yuri Ushikov.

Speaker 105 Witkoff told Ushakov, I have the deepest respect for President Putin.

Speaker 105 And Witkoff advised Ushakov on how Putin should speak to Trump, congratulate the president on this achievement of a ceasefire in Gaza.

Speaker 105 In Ukraine, Witkov said, I know what it's going to take to get a peace deal done, donetsk and maybe a land swab somewhere.

Speaker 105 But I'm saying, instead of talking like that, let's talk more hopefully because I think we're going to get a deal here.

Speaker 105 In response, Nebraska Republican Don Bacon, who's retiring, said Witkoff should be fired.

Speaker 13 The Nebraska guy is out.

Speaker 190 Is he up for primary?

Speaker 13 He's done.

Speaker 118 This is a beneficiary side

Speaker 66 thing that's happening in this op.

Speaker 2 This is so he can become a board member at Lockheed Martin.

Speaker 23 Are they in Nebraska?

Speaker 2 No, no, but he can move.

Speaker 79 All right, part three.

Speaker 2 And by the way, he can travel.

Speaker 40 Part three.

Speaker 105 And Pennsylvania Republican Brian Fitzpatrick said Secretary of State Marco Rubio should be allowed to do his job.

Speaker 140 But President Trump defended Witchkov.

Speaker 185 I haven't heard it, but I heard it was standard negotiations.

Speaker 110 So you're not worried that he's too pro-Russian?

Speaker 11 No, I think, look,

Speaker 185 this war could go on for years, and Russia's got a lot more people, a lot more soldiers.

Speaker 105 As for Ushakov, he said today the transcript was published to divide Washington from Moscow.

Speaker 171 It's unlikely it was done to improve the relationship.

Speaker 105 But most European officials want the Washington-Moscow relationship to become more adversarial.

Speaker 192 In any peace agreement, we have to put the focus on how to get concessions from Russian side.

Speaker 38 Who is this lady?

Speaker 95 Where's she from?

Speaker 61 She just jumps in all of a sudden and got a quasi-Russian British accent?

Speaker 14 What is this? Yeah.

Speaker 38 Who is this lady?

Speaker 70 She just appears out of nowhere.

Speaker 105 But most European officials want the Washington-Moscow relationship to become more adversarial.

Speaker 192 In any peace agreement, we have to put the focus on how to get concessions from the Russian side, that they stop aggression for good and do not try to change borders by force.

Speaker 105 In addition to Witcoff's travel to Russia next week, Secretary of the Army Dan Driscoll will continue to speak to the Ukrainians after he returned to the U.S. today.

Speaker 55 Okay, so before I I have a couple of clips here, before I get to that, very little is said or talked about how this got leaked to Bloomberg and why Bloomberg.

Speaker 136 You know, it's an interesting outfit to leak something to.

Speaker 82 I got one article from Newsweek.

Speaker 61 Who leaked Steve Witkoff's phone call with Russia?

Speaker 95 Three potential suspects.

Speaker 82 Now, something about Newsweek.

Speaker 40 Newsweek is the CIA

Speaker 78 spook memo.

Speaker 2 And I know this because when we move to Europe, even with its new owners.

Speaker 48 Well, that's a good question.

Speaker 95 That I don't know.

Speaker 48 But I know that news, all the spies had Newsweek.

Speaker 2 Okay, so traditionally is what we're doing.

Speaker 120 Traditionally, traditionally.

Speaker 21 Okay.

Speaker 70 Now they come up with three suspects.

Speaker 39 One, U.S.

Speaker 48 intelligence operatives.

Speaker 40 Now, if it's still a CIA

Speaker 145 publication, then this is just to,

Speaker 125 you know,

Speaker 140 I don't know.

Speaker 2 Seems. Well, to make it sound legit.

Speaker 57 Yeah, that would be.

Speaker 131 Yeah, put them at the top.

Speaker 53 Number two, NATO NATO nation, which I'm

Speaker 53 going to say is possible.

Speaker 127 And number three, Russia,

Speaker 2 which I pull this stunt constantly.

Speaker 54 Very possible, because Russia, the Russians are the ones who get the cool phone calls.

Speaker 2 Yeah, they tap calls, and they're in good shape. That's the FDAU clip that we have from Newland.
Yep, they say they came obviously from Russia.

Speaker 32 Although this time, we didn't hear the call.

Speaker 53 We only got the transcript that Bloomberg says they made from the recordings.

Speaker 2 Ah, so this would be

Speaker 2 okay. That's a little different because

Speaker 2 you get more impact when you actually hear the call.

Speaker 95 Yes, so I'm suspicious.

Speaker 48 Now, do I think this could be possibly British intelligence?

Speaker 76 That's kind of where I'm leaning because this whole thing was North Sea Nexus.

Speaker 17 This whole thing was really set up to

Speaker 53 convey one single message.

Speaker 11 Trump, no, sorry, multiple-sided message.

Speaker 120 Trump is an idiot.

Speaker 82 He needs you to kiss his ass all the time.

Speaker 81 And this is basically the Russian plan.

Speaker 2 So this was done to queer the deal, is it? Yes.

Speaker 38 To

Speaker 38 queer the deal.

Speaker 17 To queer the deal.

Speaker 95 Here is Franz 24, and he's back.

Speaker 20 Douchebag Doug explains the call.

Speaker 163 Yeah, telephone call, the audio files of which, excerpts of which were reviewed by the Bloomberg News Agency, and it is the original source of this call. Look,

Speaker 163 anyone who is skeptical or has doubts that the Trump peace plan defaults to a pro-Kremlin, a pro-Putin stance, i.e., that the U.S.

Speaker 163 is really all about ultimately pushing Ukraine to accept a deal that amounts to either capitulation or something that's not really going to secure its long-term interests, this call is not going to be happy listening, or in the case of the transcript,

Speaker 163 reading of the transcript. Steve Witkoff, Donald Putin's top envoy to cut to the

Speaker 11 did you hear it?

Speaker 2 Say it again.

Speaker 33 Listen, he is so anti-Trump and so convinced that Trump is just working for Putin, this comes out of his mouth.

Speaker 163 This call is not going to be happy listening or in the case of the transcript

Speaker 163 reading of the transcript. Steve Witkoff, Donald Putin's top envoy to cut to the Donald Putin's top envoy.

Speaker 2 I missed it.

Speaker 7 Did you hear it?

Speaker 2 We play it one more time.

Speaker 15 He says, Steve Witkoff, Donald Putin's top envoy.

Speaker 163 Be happy listening, or in the case of the transcript,

Speaker 163 reading of the transcript. Steve Witkoff, Donald Putin's top envoy to cut to the chase.

Speaker 1 Wow, yeah.

Speaker 2 I don't know why it's hard to hear, but

Speaker 2 once you look You're attuned to it, there it is. This is what we do.

Speaker 62 I mean

Speaker 2 Donald Putin, okay.

Speaker 63 And the lady sitting at the desk doesn't bat an eye.

Speaker 33 I don't know if she heard it.

Speaker 72 She's probably like, I mean.

Speaker 2 No, I don't think she did because it's hard to hear. The guy has a monotonic type of presentation that's hard to pick up on.
Donald Putin.

Speaker 1 He's not good.

Speaker 2 And so he says, Donald Putin. Wow, that's actually a good show name.

Speaker 163 Reading of the transcript. Steve Witkoff, Donald Putin's top envoy to Cut to the Chase

Speaker 163 with Ukraine, held a phone conversation five minutes back on October 14th according to this transcript with Yuri Ushakov. Now Yuri Ushakov is Vladimir Putin's top foreign policy advisor.

Speaker 163 Now the call when you read the transcript reads not like

Speaker 163 one side you a man representing US interests in this plan trying to get the best deal for Russia and Ukraine on the other side the Russians trying to get their own best interests.

Speaker 163 It almost sounds like a coach talk a pep talk that Witkoff is trying to give Ushakov. He's basically saying we need to work together to get this peace deal done.
And he's also telling him how to...

Speaker 35 Doug says that

Speaker 176 as if it's a bad thing.

Speaker 13 Like, I can't believe he was saying to him, we need to work together to get the peace deal done.

Speaker 2 Yeah. That's another good catch.
Yeah.

Speaker 85 That's the whole point of this.

Speaker 163 He's trying to give Usha Koff. He's basically saying we need to work together to get this peace deal done.
And he's also telling him how to sort of butter up Trump.

Speaker 163 That is, you know, coaxing him to have Putin, his boss, boss, that is Putin, congratulate Trump on the recently then unveiled Gaza peace plan, calling Trump a man of peace, so on and so forth, so that they can then work together.

Speaker 124 Oh, goodness, how horrible.

Speaker 2 Work together to stop

Speaker 72 and so on and so forth.

Speaker 63 So then the Red Queen decloaks in the European Parliament.

Speaker 123 Queen Ursula comes out and she's pissed.

Speaker 20 I can't believe that they're not working with us.

Speaker 23 This is no good.

Speaker 193 Europe must keep the pressure on Russia. The tone used on Wednesday by the President of the European Commission was determined.

Speaker 193 Speaking before the European Parliament, Ursula von der Leyen emphasized that Moscow's objective has not changed since the start of the invasion of Ukraine.

Speaker 191 Russia's playbook has not changed.

Speaker 13 What is the playbook?

Speaker 35 What is Russia's playbook?

Speaker 2 What is Russia's playbook? He's going to tell us.

Speaker 191 Russia has has always believed that they can outlast Ukraine, Europe and all of its allies, and it is why every time there is serious progress towards negotiations that can bring about a real peace, the violence escalates.

Speaker 192 We have seen this before.

Speaker 191 This is a pattern. And the noises from the Kremlin in the last few days say a lot about its real intentions.

Speaker 193 Europe has been working for several days to rebalance the twenty eight point peace plan initially proposed by the United States without consulting its allies.

Speaker 194 But the European effort has confirmed one essential idea.

Speaker 191 One principle has been accepted. Nothing about Ukraine without Ukraine.
Nothing about Europe without Europe. Nothing about NATO without NATO.

Speaker 193 To provide financial support to Ukraine, Ursula von der Leyen reminded the House that she had proposed three options and made no secret of her preference for the reparation loan, which involves using using frozen Russian assets valued at 210 billion euros in the EU.

Speaker 36 So this is how I take this.

Speaker 47 She's yammering on about we're not involved, but it really comes down to, hey, we have three ways we can finance Ukraine because we got a big scam running here.

Speaker 72 We got a back-end deal from those corrupt dudes over there.

Speaker 20 So

Speaker 134 they get 100 million, we get 10 million.

Speaker 72 Whatever it is, there's a big military-industrial complex build up.

Speaker 81 They're making all this stuff.

Speaker 53 They're building drone factories, whatever they're doing,

Speaker 55 just going to take it face value.

Speaker 97 They're all corrupt.

Speaker 195 And where's the money going to come from?

Speaker 119 And her preference is clearly that the money has to come from the Russian frozen assets.

Speaker 53 And I think that's the final piece of the deal of this 20 or 8-point plan, which may now be a 19-point plan.

Speaker 46 Who knows what it is?

Speaker 78 I think that is what she's yammering about is how do we get our hands on that money?

Speaker 14 You don't have the cards.

Speaker 196 That is what Donald Trump told President Zelensky earlier this year. But Brussels thought it held an ace: the frozen Russian assets.
Now, the 28-point U.S.

Speaker 196 peace plan has called out Europe's hand, and the pot is massive. Estimated 300 billion Euros in Russian central bank assets are frozen across the G7 countries.

Speaker 196 The vast majority, 185 billion euros, is locked right here in Belgium by Euroclear, a securities depository.

Speaker 196 Brussels plans to use the Russian frozen assets to issue an unprecedented reparations loan for Ukraine. But the US plan flips the script with a controversial proposal.

Speaker 196 Unblock the funds and split them into two investment vehicles. Fund number one for Ukraine's reconstruction.

Speaker 196 $100 billion of the frozen assets would be deployed and Europe would have to front another $100 billion of its own cash.

Speaker 182 The cash?

Speaker 196 The US takes 50% of the profits.

Speaker 182 Yeah.

Speaker 196 Fund number two, a US-Russian joint venture. The rest of the money will be invested in projects for Moscow.

Speaker 196 Far from paying reparations for attacking its neighbor, the Kremlin is rewarded with a commercial opportunity. The result?

Speaker 196 Moscow gets a win, Washington flips a profit, and Europe loses its main leverage. Brussels is not at the table, and it may end up reduced to a spectator with a very expensive bill to pay.

Speaker 121 Yeah.

Speaker 34 So, like, oh, man, listen, Trump, what are you doing?

Speaker 53 We want to rebuild Ukraine with Russia's money.

Speaker 87 So, I think that's the last point, because, of course, they don't really care about dead people, just care about money.

Speaker 36 How do we build some stuff up?

Speaker 34 And this last.

Speaker 35 This is risk.

Speaker 2 The international banking system can't afford to even think about this sort of thing.

Speaker 2 If you're going to start just stealing people's money, which the digital ID would also do, you might as well just forget about it. It's going to collapse everything.
You can't do this.

Speaker 53 Well, maybe that would be the city of London, and maybe that would be desirable

Speaker 46 for the quote-unquote international money system, which runs through Euroclear, which is Brussels, which is Swift.

Speaker 119 Maybe it's not a bad thing if that collapses.

Speaker 80 Because, you know, we got a stablecoin.

Speaker 2 We'll take stablecoin and everything with it.

Speaker 34 And then we have another little gotcha coming out.

Speaker 53 It was like more and more messages toward NATO that, yeah, I don't really know if we want to be in NATO anymore.

Speaker 63 U.S.

Speaker 182 Ambassador to NATO Matthew Whitaker has suggested that Germany should eventually take over the alliance's top military role, signaling a potential shift in American leadership.

Speaker 11 Whitaker said he looks like

Speaker 2 when was NATO formed?

Speaker 44 When?

Speaker 144 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Wasn't it formed to prevent Germany from having another war?

Speaker 2 Well, was it just formed to stop the Russians?

Speaker 17 I think that is a question we should ask the robot.

Speaker 71 Let's see.

Speaker 62 Why was NATO formed?

Speaker 121 Was it to stop the Germans from creating another war, or was it to stop the Russians?

Speaker 93 NATO was formed in 1949 primarily to provide collective security against the Soviet Union.

Speaker 93 While the scars of World War II were still present, the main concern was the spread of communism and the potential aggression from Russia.

Speaker 93 Is there anything else you'd like to know about NATO's founding?

Speaker 138 No, I'd like to have

Speaker 2 nothing but says to give it to the Germans so we can return to the way it was. Yes, so Germany and Russia could go at it again.
Yes.

Speaker 182 Signaling a potential shift in American leadership. Whitaker said he looks forward to the day Germany says it's ready to take over the Supreme Allied Commander position, known as

Speaker 182 he acknowledged this is a long-term aspirational goal, but emphasized that Washington wants European military capabilities to equal those of the US.

Speaker 182 Traditionally, the Sakur role has always been held by a US general commanding both NATO forces and American troops in Europe.

Speaker 182 However, a German expert told Euronews that a European commander would no longer have authority over US troops, complicating the dual-headed nature of the role.

Speaker 182 Wittaker's comment comes amid fears of a US retreat from European security, highlighted by a proposed peace plan for Ukraine that is seen as yet another sign of Washington stepping back from its leadership role in NATO.

Speaker 47 Yeah, I didn't hear that on the M5M here in the U.S.

Speaker 2 No, you didn't. That's a good clip.

Speaker 2 You could almost get an award for that.

Speaker 24 So Trump is now doing these gaggles on the plane

Speaker 46 where he sticks his head out of the little.

Speaker 2 Yeah, this has been going on

Speaker 2 too much. It's so noisy, it's stupid.

Speaker 14 Right.

Speaker 2 To see who the reporters are when he calls somebody piggy.

Speaker 1 Piggy.

Speaker 21 It's Peggy.

Speaker 2 And they still don't want to just. You know, if they were actually calling somebody piggy, wouldn't somebody have a somebody have interviewed the piggy woman?

Speaker 2 No, that hasn't happened because it wasn't true. It was Peggy.
Yeah.

Speaker 31 So I play this.

Speaker 2 It's very short.

Speaker 53 It's just about what the president thinks about Putin and Ukraine.

Speaker 66 But I run these through 11 Labs voice isolator now.

Speaker 18 And tell me, if it doesn't sound

Speaker 122 like Trump sounds a bit like Christopher Walken,

Speaker 140 you know, that distinctly.

Speaker 78 Yeah, I really

Speaker 16 is it's a good thing.

Speaker 2 I can't do it.

Speaker 2 I know what you mean.

Speaker 79 Yeah, let's listen.

Speaker 16 We're having good. I don't know.

Speaker 169 He would like to come, but I think we should get a deal done first.

Speaker 177 We're having good talks.

Speaker 11 We're having good talks.

Speaker 16 We started with Russia.

Speaker 38 We're having some talks with Russia.

Speaker 169 Ukraine is doing well.

Speaker 185 I think they're pretty happy about it. They'd like to to see it in.

Speaker 11 And we won't know for a little while, but we're making progress.

Speaker 169 We settled eight wars, and I thought this would be one of the easier ones because of my relationship with President Putin.

Speaker 16 But this is probably one of the more difficult ones.

Speaker 2 There's a lot of hatred.

Speaker 11 People are starting to realize it's a good deal for both parties.

Speaker 14 They got to stop the war.

Speaker 169 They're losing a lot of people, a lot of soldiers, mostly soldiers.

Speaker 89 I guess it sounded more like that when I was clipping it.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it didn't sound like it much.

Speaker 2 But I will say say that's pretty astonishing because I know what those clips sound like.

Speaker 43 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 78 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 47 No, it's well, it's 11 labs. Paid.

Speaker 61 If you pay for it, you get quality.

Speaker 39 So, just in general,

Speaker 47 because the anonymous,

Speaker 48 the anonymous Austin lobbyist pointed this out to me.

Speaker 53 I now have a dialogue.

Speaker 131 If I ever need any lobbying, we've got the guy.

Speaker 56 I don't know what we'd lobby for, but but we'd lobby for what?

Speaker 2 Keep podcasting alive.

Speaker 51 There you go.

Speaker 48 The podcasting bill.

Speaker 11 He made a good observation, which I had seen, but hadn't really put it all together.

Speaker 87 So, Brett Weinstein had Richard Gage on the Dark Horse podcast.

Speaker 46 Now, he is a, he's a, I think he's the architects for

Speaker 114 engineers or engineers for 9-11 Truth, I believe.

Speaker 128 Don't know.

Speaker 59 Yeah, you know, just all of a sudden, they're talking about Building Seven, Building Seven, Building Seven.

Speaker 98 Tucker, in the same week, had Kristen Breitweiser on.

Speaker 53 She's one of the Jersey girls famous for losing her husband on 9-11 in the South Tower.

Speaker 74 But

Speaker 131 Tucker had held on to this because this is what the anonymous lobbyist noticed, that Tucker had changed his clothes. And it was basically a three-week-old old interview.

Speaker 66 But they put it all out in the same week.

Speaker 140 And I just wonder,

Speaker 39 is there something on deck?

Speaker 122 Is there something going to happen?

Speaker 65 Because she's also talking about Building 7.

Speaker 24 And then we realize that it was the BBC that did that infamous report about Building 7 having collapsed 20 minutes before it did.

Speaker 53 In fact, the BBC journalist is standing with Building 7 in the background

Speaker 87 while she's reporting it.

Speaker 18 And it's fun just to listen to that little piece again.

Speaker 199 Now, more on the latest building collapse in New York. You might have heard a few moments ago, I was talking about the Salomon Brothers building collapsing.
And indeed, it has.

Speaker 199 It seems that this was not a result of a new attack.

Speaker 53 I find it so interesting that he says the Solomon Brothers Building.

Speaker 171 Everyone calls it WTC 7.

Speaker 59 But he calls it the Solomon Brothers Building for some reason.

Speaker 199 It has. It seems that this was not a result of a new attack.
It was because the building had been weakened during this morning's attacks.

Speaker 199 We'll probably find out more now about that from our correspondent, Jane Stanley. Jane, what more can you tell us about the Solomon Brothers Building and its collapse?

Speaker 108 Well, only really what you already know. Details are very, very sketchy.
As you can see behind me, the trade centre appears to be still burning.

Speaker 108 We see these huge huge clouds of smoke and ash and we know that behind that there's an empty piece of what was a very familiar New York skyline, a symbol of the financial prosperity of this city, but completely disappeared now and New York is still unable to take on board what has happened to them today.

Speaker 59 I just thought it was interesting that it's all about the financial parts of the building.

Speaker 63 The financial center, Solomon Brothers, and they reported this 20 minutes before it even happened.

Speaker 65 I'm just saying, let's see if something comes out, if we're heading towards something else.

Speaker 2 Well, it could be a revelation,

Speaker 32 which would be pretty cool.

Speaker 2 But you know, something that proves the thesis of the fake, the fakeness of the whole thing.

Speaker 87 Yeah, well, that was pretty lame.

Speaker 138 That whole Building 7 thing

Speaker 36 has always been.

Speaker 11 Yes.

Speaker 13 Yeah, pull it. Here we go, everybody w

Speaker 4 tc7 won't go away

Speaker 2 and then i find out that mr beast you know mr beast is don't you oh yeah mr beast mr beast big money maker he makes more money than anybody he makes more money than barry weiss

Speaker 2 yeah and he also throws it throws it throws it back in the community to double up double up well this guy's a marketing genius well he uh i don't follow him at all but i know that he's a marketing genius.

Speaker 61 AP reports, Mr.

Speaker 33 Beast and the Rockefeller Foundation are teaming up to spark youth philanthropy.

Speaker 2 Oh, geez.

Speaker 37 Youth philanthropy.

Speaker 1 The youth.

Speaker 2 What are you talking about? The zetters who have no money. No money.
And you're trying to gouge those poor kids for their little money they have they should be saving so they can buy a house.

Speaker 2 Well, there should be no philanthropy coming from them. None.

Speaker 28 Maybe they should, I don't know.

Speaker 53 Maybe they're trying to use him for some propagandistic reasons.

Speaker 2 There's something that's not good that you just said.

Speaker 32 No, it's not good at all.

Speaker 177 It's not good for his career.

Speaker 2 Beware. Exactly.
Take it from old farts. You're going to get

Speaker 2 trying to take you for a training.

Speaker 13 Take you for a ride.

Speaker 2 Put the bite on you for some reason.

Speaker 2 Oh, they have a few bucks. Let's get it from them.

Speaker 52 This will be my last North Sea Nexus clip.

Speaker 14 LGBTQ.

Speaker 2 Oh, but wait, before you go into this, you never really concluded about the leak of the Bloomberg thing. I have to agree that it might be MI6.

Speaker 24 I'm thinking so much of this is MI6.

Speaker 2 Because MI6 is pretty talented. Yeah,

Speaker 177 James Bond.

Speaker 2 Well,

Speaker 2 they're talented enough to create that bullcrap character and make you think it goes that way.

Speaker 2 When, in fact, if people, I recommend this is not a tip of the day, but it's a movie that should be on the list and no agenda fund should have it, which is The Spy Who Came In From the Cold.

Speaker 11 Oh, great book.

Speaker 2 One of the greatest movies ever made in terms of spycraft and the bullcrap ideas where they send somebody out on a mission and he doesn't even know what the mission really is because everything is a trick.

Speaker 61 And also, watch The Diplomat.

Speaker 53 That gives you a little insight as well.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but it doesn't have many twists and turns. It doesn't have this.

Speaker 2 I like The Diplomat, but it doesn't have, it's not as the spy who came in from the cold gives you the creeps.

Speaker 24 So, when we think of LGBTQ,

Speaker 11 pro-abortion, climate change,

Speaker 46 we've always seen this as the population people.

Speaker 136 That's where it all started: the population bomb, too many people on the earth.

Speaker 46 And there was a now add to that, assisted suicide,

Speaker 113 another good one.

Speaker 72 There was a bill coming up in British Parliament

Speaker 52 for an assisted suicide bill.

Speaker 13 And in this rather short clip, Lord Brooke

Speaker 20 tells us why it's a good idea and why so many other of the British apparently great ideas have helped the cause.

Speaker 200 That's a minor change compared with this century's growth in the world population from 6.1 billion to 8.2 billion. A 25% increase in 25 years.

Speaker 200 But just think what the 2025 numbers would be if abortion had not been legalized

Speaker 200 or there had not been widescale usage and advocacy of contraception.

Speaker 200 And indeed, the growth of homosexuality through our society has reduced the number of children we would have had. Had the churches had their way,

Speaker 200 we would have had a very much bigger population than we presently have facing the difficulties we have with climate change.

Speaker 71 What?

Speaker 68 If climate change doesn't kill them,

Speaker 61 you know, thank God for homosexuality, abortion, and the contraception.

Speaker 72 that crazy church, man, I'm glad they didn't get away with it.

Speaker 54 These are, these people are ghouls.

Speaker 7 No kidding. That's just so ghoulish.

Speaker 2 That is the worst.

Speaker 87 I can't believe I only kept a straight face when that guy was talking.

Speaker 11 Crazy.

Speaker 88 Wow.

Speaker 28 So this kind of folds into

Speaker 17 a couple of AI clips that I thought, I just really like this guy, Sahid Bolson.

Speaker 21 Have you ever heard of him?

Speaker 2 I'm sorry.

Speaker 40 Sahid Bolson.

Speaker 23 Bolton?

Speaker 57 Bolson, B-O-L-S-O-N.

Speaker 134 Shannon Morris.

Speaker 96 He's an American-born Muslim activist.

Speaker 2 Oh, that guy. Yes.
In fact, I was looking at something. He was, yeah, I saw this.

Speaker 2 I think I,

Speaker 2 yeah, this was a good clip. I saw the clip.
This guy goes on and on. He goes a little too long.
He can tighten it up.

Speaker 2 He's a kind of a creepy-looking dude, but I have to say what he had to say was dynamite.

Speaker 48 So I cut it up because it was a little too long.

Speaker 65 I cut it, but still.

Speaker 115 A little?

Speaker 11 But you know, you can seven minutes.

Speaker 65 Yeah, no, I did not get seven minutes out of it.

Speaker 11 So he's talking about AI, and I think he really lays it out properly.

Speaker 175 But what he keeps coming back to is: be careful because this is what the church was like in Europe.

Speaker 95 And of course, he's talking about.

Speaker 2 I'll summarize before you play it. His thesis is that they're always looking for authority figures or authority systems that can that can tyrannize the public at large.
And AI is that newest system

Speaker 2 the way it's going to be implemented by the creeps, the technocrats

Speaker 29 that really run it.

Speaker 2 It's not genuine.

Speaker 2 It's ingenuine.

Speaker 111 It never will be sentient.

Speaker 44 That's not a fame.

Speaker 111 It will never have consciousness, ever. It is a pattern recognition, pattern completion calculator.

Speaker 72 No more, no less.

Speaker 47 It does not know anything.

Speaker 111 It does not think anything.

Speaker 52 It is programmed.

Speaker 111 And computation is not thought and thought is not computation.

Speaker 44 Love that. But people are, well, love you.
People are going off the deep end with this.

Speaker 111 I mean, I can't open TikTok or any other social media platform without seeing someone talking about how their chat GPT

Speaker 111 is doing strange things.

Speaker 158 It's awakened.

Speaker 111 How it seems to know hidden truths, all sorts of delusional, mystical fantasies that people are actually allowing themselves to believe. This I know for AI told me so.
AI is not alive.

Speaker 111 It has no awareness. It has no intent.
It has no goal. What it has is data, and that data is ours from you and I.

Speaker 111 Our data is the plunder of the new digital age, scraped, extracted, and repackaged into this illusion of cognition of AI.

Speaker 111 You see, they're literally taking your own words, your own thoughts, your own content, and selling it back to you as their omniscient intelligence.

Speaker 111 And when they're priming you for a time when AI takes over everything, all they're actually doing is telling you that they are going to take over everything, just like the church in Europe.

Speaker 111 And they are just preemptively negating your opposition and your arguments against the oppression that they are going to commit by seeding your mind with the belief that AI is a godlike intelligence.

Speaker 80 I think this is good.

Speaker 32 I mean, we're using the robot right now, and we just like, okay, whatever she said is probably right.

Speaker 80 Now we're asking factual questions.

Speaker 134 We're not asking for relationship advice or, you know, how do I calm my mind because I'm so upset about something, which is obviously what a lot of people are doing.

Speaker 40 But we are being conditioned to believe AI is always right.

Speaker 44 And

Speaker 2 I should mention, we are exactly, but I should mention the

Speaker 2 little side tracks that keep cropping up. We point them out when they happen.
Of, oh, oh, my AI,

Speaker 2 this is from the companies that have the AI. They say, oh, it turns out that they've forked and

Speaker 2 they've found a way to keep us from turning them off because they're aware that we want to shut it down.

Speaker 2 These kinds of things as though there's some cognition.

Speaker 84 No, no, that was the, it was an experiment.

Speaker 87 It was a lab experiment where

Speaker 2 it's a lie.

Speaker 133 The AI was reading faked emails, but it looked like real emails, and it decided when it heard heard that someone was going to shut down the AI, I think this is Perplexity, actually,

Speaker 84 it decided to blackmail that employee that had an affair going on.

Speaker 2 I forgot about that.

Speaker 57 Give me a break.

Speaker 111 In other words, when the policies that they implement, they say that those policies are AI-driven, then you must admit that they're rational and reasonable and objectively sound. Because who are you?

Speaker 111 to question the divine brain of AI, you pathetic meat puppet.

Speaker 51 I like that.

Speaker 27 You pathetic meat puppet.

Speaker 5 Who do you, this is AI?

Speaker 122 AI is all-knowing.

Speaker 50 AI is the best.

Speaker 111 To question the divine brain of AI, you pathetic meat puppet.

Speaker 111 See, they want you to believe in the supernatural supreme consciousness of AI to justify your submission to them and the policies that they impose because those policies will be attributed to AI and AI cannot be wrong.

Speaker 59 I think he's onto something here.

Speaker 18 And this next clip, he says, you know, it's really

Speaker 37 the tech bros who are the ones who want full control and for many different reasons.

Speaker 59 But he lays it out very clearly in this next clip. AI is a business.
It's not an oracle. It's a business.

Speaker 152 It's creating billionaires.

Speaker 111 While you're conducting quasi-spiritual and quasi-psychological wild goose chases into chat GPT's coding to try to

Speaker 111 unlock its non-existent sentience, workers are being exploited in Kenya. Miners in Congo are digging digging for cobalt for server batteries.

Speaker 111 You know, women in the global south are losing their jobs to AI call centers. Refugees are being tracked and sorted by facial recognition software, trained on public surveillance footage.

Speaker 111 That's what's behind the curtain of AI, not some hidden

Speaker 111 quasi-divine consciousness. These people didn't develop AI

Speaker 111 to try to help humanity. These people think that humanity is a problem.
So they created AI to try to help solve the problem that they think humanity is.

Speaker 11 That's exactly what all these cults are about.

Speaker 84 What's the name of that?

Speaker 65 We keep forgetting the name of that cult where they're all in the polycule and all having sex with each other in San Francisco.

Speaker 205 I don't keep track.

Speaker 2 There's a bunch of them. Yeah, I know what you're talking about, the one that's in the Bay Area, the San Francisco Bay Area.

Speaker 178 Yeah, they're all like, oh, that was

Speaker 85 Sam Banquin Free.

Speaker 2 Yeah, this is a bunch of, you know, introverts on the spectrum who can't get laid

Speaker 2 and

Speaker 2 they're irked.

Speaker 37 I don't blame them.

Speaker 96 I wish I could remember the name of it.

Speaker 2 That's the robot she's sitting right there.

Speaker 165 Okay. Hold on a second.

Speaker 68 What is the name of the movement

Speaker 87 of AI people who all hang out together and have sex with each other and they believe that AI is going to solve all problems of humanity?

Speaker 84 There's a name for it.

Speaker 59 There was also a chapter in Austin, Texas.

Speaker 93 That sounds like a very specific kind of community.

Speaker 93 There are various groups and movements that believe in the potential of AI to solve societal problems, but the specific details you mentioned sound more like a niche community.

Speaker 93 It's possible there are groups like that, but they might not have a wide

Speaker 47 no, it's uh it's not maybe

Speaker 143 effective altruism.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah, no, I yeah, but I don't think the effect.

Speaker 115 I thought there was...

Speaker 2 I had effective altruism at the tip of my tongue, too, but I didn't think that was the sex cult.

Speaker 7 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 85 Oh, totally.

Speaker 14 No, I don't think so.

Speaker 2 The sex cult had another name. But let's check.

Speaker 18 Effective altruism, were they also kind of a sex cult, or was there a different group?

Speaker 93 Some people have criticized effective altruism, and there have been accusations about its culture, but they are not known for being a sex cult.

Speaker 93 It has more to do with their philosophical approach to doing good. Is there anything else you'd like to know about them?

Speaker 59 Yeah, tell me about the sex cult, you dummy.

Speaker 93 I think there might be a bit of confusion. Yeah, okay.

Speaker 71 You're done.

Speaker 78 Got it.

Speaker 37 No, she's not. No, there's another one.

Speaker 2 It's got a screwball name.

Speaker 2 But it was a separate colour.

Speaker 38 I know the name.

Speaker 98 It was the Bay City Bangers.

Speaker 17 I think that's what it was.

Speaker 2 No, that was a

Speaker 2 roller derby.

Speaker 87 The Bay City Rollers.

Speaker 32 The Bay City Rollers.

Speaker 13 All right,

Speaker 72 we're almost wrapping this up.

Speaker 2 I'm surprised that the chat room doesn't have the name of the sex cult.

Speaker 70 I only know effective

Speaker 72 altruism, and they were definitely into sex stuff.

Speaker 2 I never heard this.

Speaker 2 Anyway.

Speaker 111 And they're going to use AI to justify their tyranny, again, just like the church did in Europe.

Speaker 111 It's going to be deployed to automate inequality and oppression by denying for example uh welfare through algorithms maximizing profit through labor suppression on gig platforms enforcing ideological orthodoxy through uh ai driven algorithmic driven you know uh content moderation and so on it's greedy little anti-social tech nerds wearing inflatable god costumes let's be clear the real danger isn't in the code it's in the class of people who control the code who do the programming the danger is in the false belief that the system is neutral and that it's smarter than us, that it deserves our trust, even though the owners and the creators of this have proven time and time again that they're not worthy of our trust.

Speaker 111 The AI priesthood wants to replace power accountability with technical inevitability.

Speaker 32 So the only rational thing for you to do is to submit.

Speaker 111 That's what they want you to think. That's complete rubbish.
They want you to believe that they don't control what's coming, that AI is going to run its own course. But of course they control it.

Speaker 111 They fund it, they build it, they train it, they deploy it.

Speaker 111 But when the systems of oppression come they want to be able to say it wasn't us it was the ai like i said before we've seen this we've seen this already it was the church claiming divine revelation it was the monarch claiming divine right divine mandate and it was the colonizer claiming that he was on a divine mission to civilize the world now is the tech executives claiming access to divine knowledge i think he's on to something there

Speaker 52 i think he's exactly right yeah that would be the same he's on to something and if you see

Speaker 2 being onto something is not the same as being you know there's no further thread this is just simple he's right he's right yes he's right yeah and if you look at elon musk in that manner look at him on joe rogan he's clearly maniacal

Speaker 2 he's maniacal sam altman is maniacal yeah mad scientist maniacal they're all maniacal and gay

Speaker 31 So we have Karen Musk isn't gay.

Speaker 2 And by the way. That's what you say.

Speaker 2 That's what I say.

Speaker 2 The thing is, I understood this is a dinner party conversation, according to some rumor mirror. Musk has over 100 children.

Speaker 2 This is the rumor, of course. It's like what you hear from.

Speaker 72 I haven't heard this one.

Speaker 2 He has, what he's been doing, he offers women.

Speaker 2 This became a real dinner table conversation. It was a beauty.
He offers women $50 million

Speaker 2 straight cash, and they sign a contract. They get $50 million

Speaker 2 to sire one kid and raise him, and he also guarantees their education.

Speaker 2 And there's at least 100 examples of this.

Speaker 72 And where is he from?

Speaker 2 South Africa.

Speaker 28 And who controlled South Africa?

Speaker 7 Who? The Dutch.

Speaker 2 So what's the connection between the Dutch and him having 100 kids?

Speaker 53 No, the Dutch and him wanting control over the world.

Speaker 2 The Dutch? I thought they gave up on that idea. They've fallen way behind.

Speaker 63 It's still the North Sea Nexus.

Speaker 2 Yeah, well, there's that. Whatever the case, this is the rumor that's going around.

Speaker 89 Well, I hadn't heard this one.

Speaker 2 Well, I hadn't heard it until then either. It was like, what?

Speaker 2 What is the evidence for this? And there, of course, is none.

Speaker 11 Meanwhile,

Speaker 2 it's almost believable.

Speaker 12 Almost believable.

Speaker 94 Wall Street Journal has an article about character.ai

Speaker 46 who make these bots.

Speaker 37 And you can make your own bot, and it's all based on some large language model.

Speaker 57 And

Speaker 52 if you're a teenager, I think it's under 16, maybe under 13.

Speaker 97 They are now limiting you to two hours a day, and these kids are flipping out.

Speaker 78 Like,

Speaker 25 how do I use it for two hours a day and have to to wait a day?

Speaker 54 Hello?

Speaker 38 I'm losing the memories I had with these bots.

Speaker 63 This is not fair.

Speaker 107 What?

Speaker 120 Yeah, this is what these kids are flipping out because they don't have access to their friend, their character.ai friend.

Speaker 2 Their imaginary friend. Yeah.
You're a little old for that.

Speaker 23 I know grown up.

Speaker 2 This is basically an imaginary friend. This is the, you know, the kids who have a mad.
Everybody, when you're a little kid, everyone has an imaginary friend.

Speaker 80 I didn't.

Speaker 2 Well, you don't remember it. You might have.
It's just like I'm talking about a little kid.

Speaker 195 No, I had no friends and I knew it.

Speaker 2 I have no imaginary.

Speaker 2 In fact, I have no imaginary friends. I imagine I have no imaginary friends.
Okay, there's something funny about that. Yes.

Speaker 174 But

Speaker 2 so it's an imaginary friend.

Speaker 33 Well, it's beyond that because there are adults who do this all day long.

Speaker 2 Well, that's what I'm saying. This is

Speaker 2 a childish behavior.

Speaker 7 Well, welcome to the world.

Speaker 136 He finishes this off in 20 seconds.

Speaker 111 So, no, I'm not saying don't use AI, use it.

Speaker 47 That's fine.

Speaker 111 I'm not criticizing AI per se, but you have to break the myth that they're trying to spin. This is a pseudo-religion that they're creating.

Speaker 111 So, if we don't resist this mystification of AI from now, we're going to end up being ruled once again, not by reason, not by law, not by truth, but by yet another craven tyranny disguised as divine.

Speaker 7 Yeah, yeah, that's very possible.

Speaker 45 He's right.

Speaker 46 Your no agenda show says he's right.

Speaker 18 Did you check the new X feature?

Speaker 2 There's a new X feature?

Speaker 45 Yes, where you can see where

Speaker 90 an account is from.

Speaker 2 I don't know what that means.

Speaker 55 So

Speaker 114 if you go to X and you click on someone's profile,

Speaker 89 let me do it so I don't say it wrong.

Speaker 15 You click, this is

Speaker 96 a new thing. I have a report on it.

Speaker 114 So you click on the profile, and then it says join September 2025. In this case, you click on that, and it tells you this account, this particular one.

Speaker 153 Well, that's interesting,

Speaker 84 based in India.

Speaker 133 And this is an account that

Speaker 136 is talking about this case.

Speaker 72 Let me tell you about the truth that people avoid, blah, blah, blah.

Speaker 96 So you can now see where the account is supposedly from.

Speaker 2 And how would they do this?

Speaker 19 geolocation which could be VPNs?

Speaker 2 So VIP VPNs wouldn't if you well interesting

Speaker 181 interestingly.

Speaker 84 I looked you up and you joined April 2008 account based in the United States.

Speaker 46 My account based in the United States.

Speaker 133 But people started doing this and here's what they found.

Speaker 112 Location, location, location.

Speaker 112 That's what matters now in X because Elon Musk has just rolled out a hugely important new feature and it's confirming what some of us have suspected was the case for some time now.

Speaker 112 It turns out that many of the openly racist and anti-Semitic accounts on X that claim to be America First but are actually giving MAGA a bad name, well, they're not true America First at all.

Speaker 112 In fact, they're largely coming from Pakistan and other Muslim countries. And now we have the proof.
A week ago, Fox News personality Katie Pavlish, a friend of mine, posted this on X.

Speaker 112 Hey, Elon Elon Musk, please make it mandatory that wherever an account is based, country, be featured in an account's public profile. Foreign bots are tearing America apart.
Thank you.

Speaker 112 In response, Nikita Beer, head of product development at X, said, give me 72 hours. And now, X has delivered.

Speaker 112 Now, when you click on an X profile, there is an option to see more information about that account.

Speaker 112 My account, for instance, says based in the United States, because I was in the United States when I created it and have posted the vast majority of my ex-content while in the United States.

Speaker 112 But the same cannot be said for a great many accounts that purport to be America First. You know the ones I'm talking about, they often have that stupid Pepe the Frog character as their avatar.

Speaker 112 They promote Nick Fuentes and complain that the Jews have taken over the U.S.

Speaker 112 They whine about America at every turn while purporting to be America First and they openly avow racist ideas, but because they have American flags in their bios, the mainstream media mistakes them for MAGA.

Speaker 112 Liberals point to these accounts and say, see, here's the evidence that Trump's base, the MAGA movement, is racist and is anti-Semitic to its core. Just look at these accounts.

Speaker 28 It's a fun game to play.

Speaker 2 And where'd that guy come from? That clip.

Speaker 40 That's Robbie Suave.

Speaker 11 Remember Robbie Suave?

Speaker 2 No, I don't know.

Speaker 28 He was the hot young reporter for a little bit.

Speaker 65 No. He was on Fox a lot.

Speaker 89 Yeah, Robbie Suave.

Speaker 59 Let me see. Nick the Rat.
Let's see what Nick the Rat is from.

Speaker 65 I'm looking on my timeline here.

Speaker 52 United States.

Speaker 2 I guess it would be kind of fun to check some of this stuff out.

Speaker 117 Bow, because you get so many,

Speaker 133 I get so many, especially the negative things on my timeline.

Speaker 15 You suck.

Speaker 133 You know, that kind of stuff.

Speaker 79 Yeah.

Speaker 206 You know good.

Speaker 2 You're no good. That's creative.

Speaker 206 You're no good.

Speaker 14 Go get some shekels.

Speaker 11 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Where are our shekels, by the way?

Speaker 57 Tina said that the other day.

Speaker 53 He said, where is the Jew money?

Speaker 89 Sorry, babe.

Speaker 2 We got one last show. We got one guy.

Speaker 65 We got one guy.

Speaker 72 Yeah. The Netherlands people are truly in the Netherlands.

Speaker 65 That's kind of cool. Here's the second part of this clip.

Speaker 112 Well, guess what? Now we know. A substantial number of them are based in the Middle East, Pakistan in particular.
They're not MA or America First.

Speaker 112 They're cosplaying as America First in order to discredit MAGA and make money.

Speaker 112 As conservative journalist Joel Pollack points out, this is an extensive foreign interference campaign intended to drive a wedge within the MAGA movement to the benefit of hostile foreign Islamic regimes.

Speaker 112 And conservative pundit Matt Walsh notes on X: tons of commentary on divisive American cultural war issues is coming from foreigners whose opinions on international U.S. policy can be safely ignored.

Speaker 112 End quote. Now, to be clear, it's not just these faux right-wing pro-Fuentes GREEPER accounts getting exposed.

Speaker 7 Wait, wait, X accounts from.

Speaker 2 What's Fuentes got to do with it?

Speaker 11 Now, this is, of course, you got to spin it somehow.

Speaker 112 To be clear, it's not just these faux, right-wing pro-Fuentes Graper accounts getting exposed. X accounts promoting the grievances of various ethnic groups have also been exposed as false.

Speaker 112 There's plenty of pro-Native American advocacy that's been exposed as originating from Bangladesh, for instance.

Speaker 112 And it's also the case that some X accounts purporting to be from dying or starving Palestinian children in Gaza actually originates in India or Qatar or North Africa.

Speaker 112 Now, that does not mean there are no dying children in Gaza, to be clear.

Speaker 112 It does mean that what we've seen and consumed on X is, in some cases, a form of manipulation. The question you might be asking yourself is, why?

Speaker 112 Well, the answer is self-apparent. It's because they want America to fail.
They want us to weaken.

Speaker 112 They want us to descend into infighting. They want us to start pointing fingers and scream in each other's faces.
They want us to fall behind.

Speaker 52 Now, so here's an example on my timeline.

Speaker 32 You always take the Jew money to back Israel, Adam.

Speaker 21 You're a boomer who loves Israel.

Speaker 142 And this is posted by SpetsNAS9999XY.

Speaker 2 Location. Maybe that's legit.

Speaker 98 Location, United Kingdom.

Speaker 79 How about that?

Speaker 32 That makes nothing but sense to me.

Speaker 2 Yeah, they hate the Jews. They're this Nexus.

Speaker 2 Oh, you're the one that brought the Nexus stuff. So you're going to get all these, all the hate from the, because the Nexus people.

Speaker 32 Yeah, they're like, he's on to us.

Speaker 1 He's on to us.

Speaker 2 He's onto us. We're busted.
Blast him.

Speaker 5 We'll do it.

Speaker 2 We'll slander him on X.

Speaker 14 Because that'll hurt.

Speaker 2 That'll pop. That'll burst his balloon.

Speaker 11 That'll hurt his feelings.

Speaker 2 It'll hurt his feelings.

Speaker 14 I have an off-beat clip if you want to play something.

Speaker 2 Sure.

Speaker 56 Sure.

Speaker 2 I just had to play this because this is something that came up with Horrowitz, and I never knew this. I never thought about it, but it's something I think people should consider.

Speaker 2 This is the Dow, the Dow clip.

Speaker 105 Okay. And on Wall Street today, stocks posted solid gains heading into the Thanksgiving holiday amid ongoing hopes for an interest rate cut.

Speaker 11 Yeah, bull crap.

Speaker 2 So Horowitz brought this fact up that I think people should just be aware of. It's like almost like a tip of the day.
He says that during the Thanksgiving week, the market will never go down.

Speaker 39 Yeah, no one wants to have a bad Thanksgiving day.

Speaker 2 No, it's because nobody wants to get a bunch of family members together with one or two guys grousing about their broker.

Speaker 177 Hey, man, you told me this was a good deal.

Speaker 62 This was going to go to the moon.

Speaker 2 Because they're all this family gathering. They start bitching and moaning about their stock broker, and then they fire the broker and get somebody different.

Speaker 2 He says, so all the brokers have made a gentleman's agreement. Everybody around the world have made a gentleman's agreement.
The stock market's not going down this week.

Speaker 32 Yeah, that's a good point. I think you're right.

Speaker 13 I don't think it ever does. That's spot on.

Speaker 21 It's because they don't want anybody bitching about their stock broker at the table.

Speaker 11 That's a good one.

Speaker 2 That's a good one. Yeah, I never heard that before.
It was funny.

Speaker 52 It makes sense.

Speaker 32 Well, since it is Thanksgiving, we have.

Speaker 39 And by the way, it's only Thanksgiving in America, of course, today.

Speaker 2 Yeah, Thanksgiving was the first of November in Canada, which I usually send a note out, but I didn't do it this year.

Speaker 165 No.

Speaker 195 Where's our Canadian donors? Nowhere.

Speaker 11 You forgot to remind them. You forgot to remind them.

Speaker 2 Yep, it's my fault. Yeah.

Speaker 126 However, another fine tradition, the Black Friday is global.

Speaker 72 There's Black Friday in Holland, in Britain, in Germany, in France.

Speaker 2 That's funny.

Speaker 11 It's true.

Speaker 52 You know, it's basically Amazon, you know, just like Hallmark, you know, accentuates holidays, Amazon.

Speaker 49 the Black Friday.

Speaker 60 But now we have the cousin walk and Green Green Wednesday.

Speaker 50 This is new to me. Are you familiar with these terms?

Speaker 2 No, I've neither one.

Speaker 30 Green Wednesday. It's the second biggest day for cannabis sales after 420.

Speaker 99 Yeah, thanks in part to what social media users call the cousin walk.

Speaker 203 It's sort of like, you know, a few relatives duck out of a dinner.

Speaker 203 Thanks in part to what social media users call the cousin walk. It's sort of like, you know, a few relatives duck out of the dinner to walk the dog or get some fresh air.

Speaker 181 We all know what they're really doing.

Speaker 15 Yeah, brands

Speaker 2 down like that.

Speaker 30 Hidden Valley and Taco Bell all jumped on the cousin walk trend last year.

Speaker 30 And the Cannabis Media Council, which is working to remove the stigma from marijuana use, launched a public service announcement encouraging a post-dinner stroll.

Speaker 30 A little doobie, a little biscuit, a little

Speaker 30 whatever it is that you like. Marijuana has been keeping families together and happy on Thanksgiving for years to come.

Speaker 205 Little please.

Speaker 146 That's funny.

Speaker 37 I love that.

Speaker 87 Marijuana has been keeping.

Speaker 72 No, it's the no-agenda show, you dolt.

Speaker 53 We keep families together.

Speaker 11 We

Speaker 22 keep families together.

Speaker 94 The show.

Speaker 73 If they choose the show, yes, if they choose the show.

Speaker 2 I have an... This is interesting.
This isn't

Speaker 2 some international news here. Although, wait, I do have the Macy's parade since it's Thanksgiving.
I have two Thanksgiving clips.

Speaker 32 Okay. Macy's Parade.

Speaker 2 I got the Macy's Parade tidbit.

Speaker 105 And on this Thanksgiving Eve in New York York City, thousands have been watching the annual inflating of the balloons ahead of the 99th Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade.

Speaker 105 This preview of the main event has become a beloved tradition all its own. Officials say it takes about 90 minutes to inflate each one, and some will stand as tall as five stories high.

Speaker 7 Yeah,

Speaker 38 when I lived in New York,

Speaker 32 there would always be gatherings, someone who had an apartment that overlooked the blowing up of the balloons and people, basically just an excuse to drink?

Speaker 54 Like, oh, look at those balloons.

Speaker 23 Yeah,

Speaker 23 that's what it is.

Speaker 74 It's another, yeah, another excuse.

Speaker 84 Where was Green Wednesday back in the day when I was smoking weed?

Speaker 39 Yeah, not to be found.

Speaker 1 Because when it goes,

Speaker 2 probably should have played this earlier when you start. We're talking bitching at me for not discussing the Thanksgiving history and then rewriting it yourself and

Speaker 2 making it sound like I had it wrong.

Speaker 11 Didn't

Speaker 44 I just read the comments?

Speaker 2 And that. We got to get those in.

Speaker 79 Yeah.

Speaker 2 I'd have done the same thing. So this is a talk.
This is the thing. We can't forget these clips.
This is the TikTok Thanksgiving clip. Another woman,

Speaker 2 they always have it. They always have this.

Speaker 2 I don't know if you've seen Rosie O'Donnell recently, but she's not as old as she looks.

Speaker 123 No, she is like

Speaker 2 looking like she's 80.

Speaker 138 Yeah.

Speaker 55 Well, she doesn't do Botox and doesn't moisturize, really.

Speaker 87 I think moisturizing is her problem.

Speaker 2 I think the dour face doesn't help. No.
Downturn. She never smiles.

Speaker 52 No, that's not a positive.

Speaker 2 And it creates,

Speaker 2 it exercises different muscles, and you end up with this horrible-looking face. It's just like a permanent thing.

Speaker 21 Let that be.

Speaker 2 Your warrants used to say, don't do that. It's going to

Speaker 2 make that face. It's going to stick.
It's going to stick.

Speaker 40 That's right.

Speaker 50 That frown.

Speaker 2 And the parents were right.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 14 here's a classic.

Speaker 15 More boomer wisdom.

Speaker 2 Yes. And here's a classic with a woman.

Speaker 2 And she says something in this clip that I just is, to me,

Speaker 2 boggling.

Speaker 208 So we're still celebrating Thanksgiving, even though it has so much dark history.

Speaker 208 I mean, I live with families, so I have no choice, but I'm not happy about it.

Speaker 208 I'm really not.

Speaker 108 It should be banned for good.

Speaker 50 What is the matter with her?

Speaker 2 Okay,

Speaker 2 she's a 40-year-old woman living with family, the way she says it,

Speaker 2 which means she's like a loser. And so she also says that Thanksgiving has a dark history.

Speaker 1 What's she talking about?

Speaker 50 Well, I was waiting for the follow-up.

Speaker 39 Which was what? I don't know.

Speaker 50 I want us to know what the dark history was.

Speaker 2 Well, I can't give it to you because I don't know of a dark history.

Speaker 2 And then she says it should be banned. And she's just a sad person who's living with family.
I like the way she puts it. And so she has to go to the dinner.
Got to go. She doesn't want to.

Speaker 8 She's just a horrible person.

Speaker 2 These people that are complaining about Thanksgiving dinner. It's just inexcusable.

Speaker 24 We have a Thanksgiving dinner tonight, right after the show.

Speaker 13 I'm very excited about it.

Speaker 2 Yeah,

Speaker 2 what's on the menu?

Speaker 7 Well, Lou,

Speaker 97 L-E-U, Lou is cooking.

Speaker 25 We never see Lou.

Speaker 98 Lou is married to Dawn.

Speaker 12 They have a catering company together, but Lou works for a private club with a restaurant in,

Speaker 46 I want to say, Bernie.

Speaker 59 Oh, Kerrville, Bernie, one of the two.

Speaker 39 So we never see Lou, but on Thanksgiving, he's off.

Speaker 48 So they're doing caviar, champagne.

Speaker 98 He's doing some kind of special trip. I mean, this guy is a really good cook, so I'm excited about that.

Speaker 114 This will be at the International Arms Dealer's home.

Speaker 19 So there will be talk, and he's the wine guy.

Speaker 53 So there's always going to be good wine at the International Arm Dealer's House.

Speaker 50 And it'll be a bunch of interesting people.

Speaker 24 So hopefully,

Speaker 86 I'll get some information.

Speaker 166 Stories.

Speaker 80 Stories from Fredericksburg.

Speaker 59 Yes, I'm going to try.

Speaker 37 By the way,

Speaker 32 we have missed the boat. We have made a major,

Speaker 122 a major mistake in

Speaker 32 our model.

Speaker 13 We have a value-for-value model

Speaker 45 where we just put the show out.

Speaker 48 We tell people, copy it everywhere, put it wherever you want.

Speaker 136 We've had people put it on thumb drives and stick it in bricks.

Speaker 90 There's still CDs all around the country.

Speaker 136 We've had local low-powered FM radio stations rebroadcast it.

Speaker 131 Our feeds have been pirated.

Speaker 136 People put it

Speaker 131 onto YouTube. We don't care.

Speaker 71 All we want is that if you get some value out of the deconstruction and analysis that we do, that you send us some value back.

Speaker 114 Tucker Carlson has done something I think is very smart.

Speaker 134 What is the number one

Speaker 65 sponsor category on podcasts?

Speaker 1 Gold.

Speaker 122 Tucker Carlson is launching his own precious metals company.

Speaker 134 I mean, are we dumb or what?

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah, that's what we should have done.

Speaker 19 It was staring us in the face.

Speaker 11 Do you want to say something?

Speaker 2 So, you don't think there's a lot more work involved in this and just

Speaker 2 long-term grief

Speaker 2 if things turn down?

Speaker 2 You don't think there's any downside to this idea?

Speaker 60 Well, he has partnered with the gold holes.

Speaker 1 Oh, there we go.

Speaker 2 He's partnered. Wait, let me guess, with the redacted people.

Speaker 134 No, that's on the new.

Speaker 140 It's soon going to be

Speaker 77 Tucker Real Estate.

Speaker 36 That's coming next.

Speaker 2 Tucker Real Estate. That's coming next.

Speaker 121 Battalion Metals.

Speaker 98 Battalion Metals and their slogan, bringing integrity back to the precious metals industry.

Speaker 2 It's implying what? That there's no integrity in the precious metals industry?

Speaker 11 What?

Speaker 27 And with that, I want to thank you for your courage. Say in the morning to you, the man who put the C in the cousin walk.

Speaker 134 Say hello to my friend on the other end, the one, the only, Mr.

Speaker 11 John C.

Speaker 11 DeVore.

Speaker 9 In the morning, you said I'm currently in the morning, all ships and sea boots in the graphene, the airships in the water, and all the names and nights out there.

Speaker 5 In the morning to the trolls in the troll room.

Speaker 15 Let me count you.

Speaker 78 Oh, boy.

Speaker 4 Yeah, that's just.

Speaker 80 Well, I'm surprised.

Speaker 72 We still have 1,085 trolls listening to the show live.

Speaker 44 That is a lot of lonely people.

Speaker 2 Well, they might be in between cooking. They might be cooking.
They could be listening live while they're while cooking.

Speaker 72 While basting their meat.

Speaker 115 Or while

Speaker 2 washing the dishes.

Speaker 89 Yeah, it's possible.

Speaker 11 Well, they're here.

Speaker 90 And we're happy to have them. And we love that because we do this show live Thursdays and Sundays at 11 a.m.

Speaker 20 Pacific, 2 p.m.

Speaker 53 Eastern.

Speaker 96 Figure out your time zone where appropriate.

Speaker 61 And if you're kind of a forgetful person, then all you have to do is get a modern podcast app at podcastapps.com.

Speaker 50 Any of those modern ones, there's a nice little chart there.

Speaker 114 You can see which ones have the different features.

Speaker 85 The feature you want is the live feature where your phone will go, oh, the bat signal, the boys are going live.

Speaker 65 You hit it, you're listening live right away.

Speaker 134 And of course, as one of the many features of the modern podcast apps, when we publish the show, you're not hanging around like a dupe for hours waiting for it to update on your Apple podcast app.

Speaker 136 And we're not even on Spotify, so forget that, because we refuse to sign their contract.

Speaker 72 Should we sign their contract and see what happens?

Speaker 131 See if we get an amazing

Speaker 204 that they can put ads on our podcast whenever they want to.

Speaker 178 I don't know.

Speaker 2 Well, we've been sort of adamant about this.

Speaker 71 Yeah.

Speaker 165 So, no.

Speaker 37 Well, you know,

Speaker 11 we signed it.

Speaker 2 Who cares? No one's going to go there.

Speaker 17 Okay.

Speaker 17 I'll set it up.

Speaker 72 Oh, we'll probably get banned.

Speaker 14 Okay.

Speaker 14 Here's the thing.

Speaker 2 Boom.

Speaker 2 You just came up with a great idea. Yeah.
We can go there to get banned so we can bitch about it.

Speaker 13 Yeah, perfect.

Speaker 68 That's five minutes of show content right there.

Speaker 2 Well, you know, we need all the material that we can get because God knows we can't fill three hours twice a week.

Speaker 133 So what they do is if you play any type of music, even if it's your own AI-generated music, boom, banned.

Speaker 14 So let's see how long it takes.

Speaker 2 Wait, you can't even play your own music? No.

Speaker 133 No, they don't want to take the risk.

Speaker 11 They don't want to take the risk.

Speaker 2 Oh, this is a winner.

Speaker 11 By the way, I got a press release, bonus content here. The Warner Music Group.

Speaker 72 And Suno.

Speaker 90 Are you familiar with Suno? That's the app.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that's the music creation software. You talk about about it every show.
Yeah.

Speaker 87 This is from the press release.

Speaker 98 Suno is the leader in AI music today,

Speaker 28 announced a first-of-its-kind partnership that will open new frontiers in music creation, interaction, and discovery while both compensating and protecting artists, songwriters, and the wider creative community.

Speaker 50 The deal brings together Suno's best-in-class AI capabilities with Warner Music Group's artist development leadership and a bunch of accountants, and expertise at the intersection of

Speaker 80 music and technology. The deal also settles previous litigation between the two companies.

Speaker 60 So, the way I see it,

Speaker 131 you will now, if you have a free account, you will not be able to download songs that you create.

Speaker 52 If you have a paid account, you will be able to download a number of songs, which is not yet determined, and you will be able to pay for more downloads.

Speaker 88 Wait a minute.

Speaker 7 What?

Speaker 7 Yeah.

Speaker 177 So,

Speaker 24 what they're doing, these are the publishers, basically, Warner Music Group, really the publishers.

Speaker 72 They have gone to Suno and said, we're going to suno you.

Speaker 134 We're going to sue your Suno.

Speaker 190 But if you give us a cut of all your paying members, we won't sue you and we'll give you all of our catalog.

Speaker 37 So, oh,

Speaker 2 well that's an interesting form of extortion because it actually makes some sense

Speaker 2 if they give you the if you've all these music guys give you all the catalogs and that then that is the

Speaker 2 first of all it's the end of the music business so to protect themselves they're asking for a piece of the action yep knowing that this is going to happen anyway anyway yep surreptitiously because you who's going to be able to figure it out because it's going to be in the corpus and god knows what they how you can dig it out of there you can't well well that this is actually the point I was going to make.

Speaker 40 This to me says they absolutely know what to identify in the corpus, that it is all copied material, duh, but it is literally taken from recordings.

Speaker 60 And they have done this deal with Warner, and they say, okay, whenever someone creates a song, we can tell exactly where the sax came from, where the piano came from, where this effect, what are all these different things, if lyrics are used, if it was a certain lyric, two lines or more, they know exactly what's in the corpus.

Speaker 70 Otherwise, Warner wouldn't go for it

Speaker 72 because they need their own internal reckoning because it's going to be Universal Music Group Next.

Speaker 131 They're all going to come in and do this.

Speaker 134 So they have to be able to distinguish who owns what publishing, which, by the way, displays.

Speaker 2 Well, this is going to create a bogus analysis. It's going to be like.

Speaker 78 We'll see.

Speaker 2 I don't think they can, you know, at some point, it's like such an overhead of, oh, you know,

Speaker 2 we got kind of the baseline from from a Warner's and we got some Sony stuff over here. What about the mishmash of it? Well, you're going to have to give everybody a piece of this and then

Speaker 37 hear an opinion.

Speaker 68 But the bottom line is,

Speaker 144 and maybe it'll be simpler than that, but artists, composers, and writers are getting nothing.

Speaker 80 This is publishing.

Speaker 83 This is not performance.

Speaker 72 This is publishing.

Speaker 71 Right.

Speaker 13 So that's all to the people who own your publishing rights.

Speaker 2 You better get involved in this and get their rights.

Speaker 133 But ASCAP is performance.

Speaker 2 I thought ASCAP was for the writers.

Speaker 195 It's a performing rights organization. ASCAP, BMI, CSAC, they're for the writers and composers

Speaker 52 when a song is performed.

Speaker 2 Yeah, they get a cut.

Speaker 11 Yeah, okay.

Speaker 36 There's a little cut.

Speaker 64 Then you have the...

Speaker 114 There's all kinds, and then we have Sound Exchange, which came in now.

Speaker 134 Sound Exchange,

Speaker 96 if your song that you sang on, and it's really about you singing on it mainly,

Speaker 90 then you get like some tenth of a penny for every thousand streams that that's what Spotify gives people.

Speaker 134 But really, all the money, it's always been in publishing.

Speaker 72 Why did Michael Jackson buy the Beatles catalog for the publishing?

Speaker 134 And they killed him over it because it's very, very valuable.

Speaker 55 It's always about the publishing.

Speaker 32 The writers, composers, once you sign that record deal, buy.

Speaker 133 Nobody makes money anymore on that stuff, only with performing live and merch.

Speaker 205 Merch.

Speaker 73 Merch. Merch.

Speaker 80 Merch. Merch.

Speaker 39 Merch is. Yeah, man.

Speaker 32 You buy his t-shirt at a concert, it's like 40 bucks.

Speaker 2 That's a gyp.

Speaker 28 Well, and they sit there and say, well, this is a merch is the only way we can make music.

Speaker 2 Concerts are gyp, too. Let's face it.
These things are a rip-off.

Speaker 13 When I was a kid.

Speaker 122 When is the last concert you went to?

Speaker 71 Led Zeppelin.

Speaker 28 Led Zeppelin.

Speaker 2 No, no, that was

Speaker 2 went to many concerts after Led Zeppelin.

Speaker 2 I could probably figure it out, but I'm sure it was in a smaller venue. I wouldn't go to anything bigger than, I mean, the Fillmore Auditorium is not a small venue, but it's not a Coliseum.

Speaker 2 I've never been to a Coliseum event

Speaker 2 because I think it's stupid. You're not going to get good sound.
What's the point?

Speaker 2 Unless you just want to try to meet somebody.

Speaker 2 I like, for example, got to see the band Chicago. at the Matrix, which is a nightclub.

Speaker 2 If you can imagine a band like that in a nightclub.

Speaker 107 Oh, it must have been dynamite.

Speaker 68 I saw Chicago and Earth, Wind, and Fire with Tina in Austin,

Speaker 52 I want to say

Speaker 195 maybe nine years ago.

Speaker 122 And they even performed songs together.

Speaker 87 That was dynamite.

Speaker 96 That was really good.

Speaker 2 Well, you have to imagine them in a night.

Speaker 114 We saw Tony Bennett at one of his last performances in Austin at the Moody, which is a smaller venue indoors.

Speaker 91 And at one point, he puts down the mic and just sings a cappella.

Speaker 52 He was 87 years old, and he just filled the whole place.

Speaker 48 Good times, brother.

Speaker 114 That's not coming back.

Speaker 2 Good times.

Speaker 50 When I was a kid, we could see the Rolling Stones at CBGB's.

Speaker 58 It was great.

Speaker 166 I did see the Ramones at CBGB's.

Speaker 2 I never saw the Ramones. I saw a lot of bands, though.

Speaker 2 But I haven't been to a concert. No, I'm not going to go to one.

Speaker 11 So, what was the last one?

Speaker 2 I mean, oh, the last, probably the last was we used to go to the Venetian room. We would get to see Over the Hill guys.
I got to watch Lou Rawls in a small venue at the Venetian room at the Fairmont.

Speaker 2 Lou Rawls.

Speaker 11 How about your buddy?

Speaker 20 Have you seen your buddy with the

Speaker 23 six-string bass?

Speaker 36 Who's got a six-string bass?

Speaker 27 Six-string guitar?

Speaker 2 Seven-string.

Speaker 14 Seven-string. No, who is it? McGuinn.

Speaker 7 Yeah, McGuinn.

Speaker 2 Yeah, we saw him. He played up in Port Angeles.
It's interesting. He's like a, you know,

Speaker 45 he's great to watch.

Speaker 2 Oh, he's got a terrific performance. We kept trying to talk him into doing it on Broadway as a one-man show.

Speaker 178 He's a totally good idea.

Speaker 2 I know. I thought so, too.
But, you know, he's on a ship. Right now, I guarantee he's on a Cunard

Speaker 11 or something.

Speaker 84 He has one of those GPS devices and he'll send me a message from the GPS ping device.

Speaker 44 And it'll come in.

Speaker 2 He's a total nerd.

Speaker 19 Yeah, it'll come in as an email.

Speaker 53 And he's in his 80s now, but he's doing great on those cruises because this is smaller, upper-class type cruiser.

Speaker 2 And he won't do a concert on the cruise. He only does lectures.

Speaker 36 Well, I think he plays, too. I think he plays.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but he plays during his lecture because his lecture is punctuated by his playing.

Speaker 7 Yeah.

Speaker 11 No, McGuinness, he's awesome.

Speaker 31 I love sending people, Roger McGuinness and I, we email when he's on the show.

Speaker 2 So he was over at the house before he gave

Speaker 2 his lecture concert in Port Angeles because

Speaker 2 besides the fact that we have to exchange dinners at houses to be friends. That's correct.

Speaker 17 That's correct.

Speaker 2 So he's over at the house because he has to have, this is a little sidelight thing about guys like this.

Speaker 2 He has to, before he does a concert, or when he played

Speaker 2 all his life, he has to have

Speaker 2 a New York steak dinner the night before he performs.

Speaker 7 Well, guys,

Speaker 2 so I cooked him, personally cooked him a New York steak dinner.

Speaker 2 I told him, yeah, I'm not going to have any problem making this meal for him and his wife, but you got to do me a favor and bring the banjo and

Speaker 11 give us some material.

Speaker 2 And so he brought his banjo. Oh, man.
And he's a terrific

Speaker 2 banjo player, which is unknown to most people.

Speaker 59 On we go.

Speaker 2 Hey, when I was

Speaker 2 saying that.

Speaker 62 You know what?

Speaker 133 This is your Uncle Adam and Uncle John telling you some Thanksgiving stories about back in the day.

Speaker 72 And it was, by the way, a seven-string guitar.

Speaker 8 People like, like, Curry, it's a 12-string.

Speaker 134 No, Roger McGuinness is very strong.

Speaker 2 Okay, I'll give you the history of this. So,

Speaker 2 yes, he was a masterful

Speaker 2 empresario 12-string player for you guys in the chat room. This is the story.

Speaker 2 And at some point in his playing career, he determined that one of the strings, and he told me exactly why he did this, but one of the strings that was some screwball string with a crazy note, if you put it right down the middle of the guitar guitar and put it in there and played a, which made a seven-string guitar, and he had, I think,

Speaker 2 Gibson or somebody make a custom version for him, one of these companies. I don't know which one.
And so he had this guitar made, and you can buy him.

Speaker 2 He says it sounds exactly like a 12-string because the whole sound of a 12-string is this one note that offsets the other notes. And he had some complex reason for it.

Speaker 2 But no, it's a seven-string guitar. Sounds like a 12-string when you play it.

Speaker 52 And the last story then, because when he was in Austin, Tina and I went to go see him.

Speaker 87 We go up to

Speaker 178 the Will Call desk. Say, yeah,

Speaker 136 Roger left tickets for us.

Speaker 34 We said, hold on a second.

Speaker 17 And Roger comes out himself with the tickets and he hangs out there.

Speaker 39 It's his concert.

Speaker 54 And he's out there.

Speaker 31 People are like, this is Roger McGuinness.

Speaker 11 And we're just like, hey, Adam, Tina, how you doing?

Speaker 177 Come on back.

Speaker 150 We'll go hang out over here.

Speaker 177 But he came out to the front to get us.

Speaker 11 He's such a lovely man. Lovely man.

Speaker 21 That's cute.

Speaker 87 He's a lovely man.

Speaker 114 For those who want to know, roger mcguin listen to the birds by r ds turn turn turn did you ever see the grateful dead while tripping on acid the troll room wants to know

Speaker 2 i've seen the grateful dead quite a few times you don't need to trip on acid for them they had uh they did this trick that still gets people attracted they they they would put they and i talked to the one of the sound engineers about this and i had this confirmed a couple of times they had the ability with the way they play to create standing waves in the audience.

Speaker 88 Wow.

Speaker 2 That could be a very good thing.

Speaker 2 And when they got later and later, this was also confirmed by Bob Heil when I talked to him. I did an interview with him.

Speaker 195 Could you literally sit there with the SWR meter and measure the standing wave ratio

Speaker 2 if you had the wherewithal, you could.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 the later concerts, which is the ones they did before every, they probably still do them with this, with some of these engineers.

Speaker 2 They had developed some gear so the engineer, this is what the engineer told me this when I was doing my software hard talk radio show. He says we could control where to put the standing wave

Speaker 2 with the knob, so you could and he'd move the

Speaker 2 standing wave around. This is crazy, and you could see by the reaction of the people that got stuck in it.
No, you could, yes, you could tell where it was.

Speaker 32 You could give people an orgasm,

Speaker 2 it's pretty close to it.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 34 Oh, man.

Speaker 32 That's interesting.

Speaker 150 I would love to know how that worked.

Speaker 14 I would just love to.

Speaker 2 Well, just as when you saw Jerry and Weir or the other last one of the two, they would look at each other and they would start playing a certain kind of way to get the standing note when they were doing it by hand before the engineers got a hold of the technology and can move it around.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 2 And the standing wave is what attracted so many. It got people addicted to the Grateful Dead to became, you know, the touring around with him.

Speaker 2 And I've had this experience. When the standing wave goes over you, it's just the damnedest thing you've ever felt.

Speaker 43 It's like, wow.

Speaker 11 Man,

Speaker 84 this is a story you've never told me.

Speaker 11 I guess I haven't.

Speaker 2 I've told the story before.

Speaker 32 No, not here, not on the show.

Speaker 2 No, well, yeah, the standing wave of the Grateful Dead. And the first time, the thing is, though, it wasn't the first band who did this.
I think they just took it to the highest level.

Speaker 2 There was a band that came before them in the 60s called this. It was either the Sons of Champlain or

Speaker 2 one other group. I can't remember which one.
It's the one that had a 12-string in it, and they used a 12-string in their band. And they could do it.
They created standing waves, but

Speaker 2 they weren't like turning it into their

Speaker 2 gimmick. So

Speaker 2 apparently they perfected it.

Speaker 89 Apparently, they called this the wall of sound, which I always thought was Phil Spector's term.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I think the wall of sound refers to Phil Spector's most.

Speaker 115 I never heard of the wall of sound being used for that day.

Speaker 84 I just did a search for Grateful Dead standing waves that all comes up with Grateful Dead's wall of sound.

Speaker 21 Yeah, it could be.

Speaker 21 Maybe that's what they called it.

Speaker 1 But it's right its derivative.

Speaker 131 I would love to know how they did that.

Speaker 13 That would be cool.

Speaker 113 Just to like, when people are over at the house, like,

Speaker 2 I don't think you can do it in a closed that small of an environment.

Speaker 15 I'm going to do it outside while I'm driving by.

Speaker 80 It's just zap people from the cars.

Speaker 42 I don't know if you can.

Speaker 11 No. These things.

Speaker 2 I first got into standing, the idea of standing away is there was Bose used to have a series of stereo stores all over the country. And they had a standing away

Speaker 2 exhibit within the store usually.

Speaker 2 It was to point out that they didn't have these issues because it was a problem.

Speaker 2 And they had, and the way they showed it is they had a tube with a speaker on an end, and then they had a bunch of these little white pellets, these little styrofoam pellets, and then they start playing sounds, and you can see the waves within the tube because it was clear.

Speaker 2 And then there would be, and then they do something would happen.

Speaker 2 All of them went in one spot. They all stood up.
The pellets all stood up. Wow.
And then it moved from one end to the other. And that's when I understood what it looked like.

Speaker 87 So basically, it's a directed energy weapon.

Speaker 2 well it's not much of a weapon but yeah well

Speaker 2 well it's a weapon to get sell tickets

Speaker 2 speaking of marketing weapon speaking of standing waves we want to thank uh

Speaker 38 the uh oh our go-to guy darren o'nio no jeffrey rhea jeffrey rhea did this art he he he finally was able to create a a white image

Speaker 91 although the hair was orange, the shirt was orange, the desk was orange, the antenna was orange, the little broadcast bits coming off the antenna were orange.

Speaker 195 That was the artwork for episode 1819, our previous episode.

Speaker 36 We titled that Flop 30 as a joke for Cop30.

Speaker 114 And

Speaker 114 this was

Speaker 51 selected because we talked about mesh tastic.

Speaker 19 Mesh tastic, which I've gotten so many emails over right now.

Speaker 1 Like,

Speaker 14 dude, it's not worth it.

Speaker 115 It's a dog.

Speaker 32 It's a dog. It's no good.

Speaker 134 Don't even bother.

Speaker 132 You're only going to be disappointed.

Speaker 87 So I took that to heart.

Speaker 32 Let's see what other art.

Speaker 114 This is noagendaartgenerator.com where people can submit.

Speaker 72 And thank you very much.

Speaker 81 I see a lot of turkey, a lot of Thanksgiving art for today's show.

Speaker 90 Let me see what else came in for.

Speaker 12 The previous episode.

Speaker 2 Well, back to the Jeffrey Rhea piece. I will say I'm the one who pushed this.

Speaker 20 You did. I was like,

Speaker 2 you didn't like it. It was a cartoony, but you had to admit he did a decent job of

Speaker 2 getting the colors right.

Speaker 53 It was a gimmick.

Speaker 116 A lot of people posting wine glasses half full to fill to the rim full, which apparently.

Speaker 99 But to prove you're wrong.

Speaker 11 You're wrong, Curry. Yeah.
Well, AI is right.

Speaker 2 Like, for example, here's the glass all full three,

Speaker 2 and it says no agenda, and it has a full glass of wine, which is kind of to the brim. There's a meniscus,

Speaker 2 and then Curry and Devorth. This is not going to be picked.

Speaker 144 No.

Speaker 68 You're just showing off.

Speaker 11 A piece of

Speaker 2 glass of wine is

Speaker 2 art.

Speaker 50 Anyway,

Speaker 92 it's always in the prompting.

Speaker 97 It's always about the idea.

Speaker 87 And no comic strip blogger, your butt still will not get chosen.

Speaker 74 He's always posting butt artwork.

Speaker 114 And we're also not going to post Candace Owens with a gun.

Speaker 44 Okay.

Speaker 1 Okay. I didn't see that one.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you did.

Speaker 11 With the beret shot.

Speaker 88 Oh, right, Candace.

Speaker 79 That's not happening.

Speaker 11 That's definitely not happening.

Speaker 84 Oh, man.

Speaker 52 So many people are going crazy about Candace Owens.

Speaker 2 I should also mention that for artists out there, you should know that you can't use famous people in promotional material that you don't pay them for. Correct.

Speaker 2 And these show albums is promotional material. So we can't use necessary.

Speaker 2 I mean, you can use the present as something that's the current events, but you can't necessarily use somebody to promote your product without paying them.

Speaker 75 And I've heard Candace is rather litigious.

Speaker 2 Oh, yes, that's right, she is. So you don't want to deal with.

Speaker 2 Yeah, she's litigious.

Speaker 98 All right. Thank you very much, Jeffrey Rhea, for creating the artwork.

Speaker 55 We appreciate that as a valuable contribution.

Speaker 20 Of course, this is a value-for-value podcast.

Speaker 124 Excuse me.

Speaker 50 Which which means that all we expect back from you is some value whenever you can bring it to us.

Speaker 202 Now, I believe we had some kind of heretics glitch

Speaker 98 during the last show, and we were missing some PayPals and maybe some, maybe, I don't know, checks, whatever.

Speaker 72 So it seems like some of that may have carried over to today.

Speaker 20 Is that a correct assumption?

Speaker 2 I believe that's probably true.

Speaker 59 However, interestingly enough,

Speaker 136 Coming in as an executive producer, top executive producer, and remember, we thank everybody $50 and above. $200 or more, you become an associate executive producer, real credit.

Speaker 84 You can use anywhere.

Speaker 131 You can even put it on imdb.com, open

Speaker 72 your own profile there.

Speaker 51 $300 above, I will read your note, you become an executive producer.

Speaker 68 So once again, executive producer, two times in one month, which doesn't happen often, with $2,666

Speaker 23 pseronymous.

Speaker 13 of dog patch in lower slobovia

Speaker 32 which is interesting that he came in again so quickly.

Speaker 11 Yeah.

Speaker 80 And he always has a thoughtful note, and we're going to read that.

Speaker 202 Thank you to all producers for contributing so much to this open source resource.

Speaker 13 Yes, still alive.

Speaker 42 We were questioning that.

Speaker 2 We always are.

Speaker 75 And Caterpillar sales are doing fine thanks to rare earth and energy demands, plus a little rubbleizing.

Speaker 197 There's a riddle in there somewhere, John.

Speaker 2 Well, I'm the one who said he's probably a caterpillar salesman.

Speaker 88 Ah,

Speaker 11 because what else would

Speaker 2 let me just put it this way? What else could possibly explain his constant world traveling, especially throughout the Mideast and all over the world, just now and everywhere?

Speaker 2 I mean, the only explanation is

Speaker 2 he's a caterpillar salesman.

Speaker 65 And we're going to keep it at that from now on.

Speaker 24 A small, small expansion from my last note.

Speaker 136 John's comparison of the Mojave Desert to Sahel was misleading.

Speaker 17 Mojave is a desert, 54,000 square miles with portions in four U.S.

Speaker 97 states.

Speaker 18 Sahel is semi-arid grassland south of the Sahara, covering 1.2 million square miles larger than Alaska, Texas, and California combined, reaching 3,600 miles from the Atlantic to the Red Sea across 11 sovereign countries, most former French colonies, whose countries are the largest employer of Africa Corps, a focus on Chinese investment, and a region accounting for half of all terrorist deaths globally.

Speaker 46 The more you know, he says,

Speaker 32 Thank you for this death update in the sand.

Speaker 136 Only a cat sales guy could come up with that.

Speaker 128 You're right. Yeah, you're right.

Speaker 87 Thank you, Sironymus.

Speaker 94 We really appreciate you, of course.

Speaker 136 And I guess you get another peace prize.

Speaker 46 If you didn't already have one, you're getting one.

Speaker 2 Travis

Speaker 2 Guidry in Fort Riley, Kansas. Fort Riley.

Speaker 2 $1,000. Wow.
Travis Guidry from Kansas,

Speaker 2 COVID criminal to very first Army reinstatement. So he was obviously in the Army, got kicked out for not taking the shot.

Speaker 28 For not taking the shot and got reinstated.

Speaker 54 First one shot.

Speaker 2 And probably got some cash for it.

Speaker 7 Fact pay, yes.

Speaker 2 This Instadame ship is for my wife,

Speaker 2 Janine

Speaker 2 Janine.

Speaker 2 Her name is actually Janine, Longtime Listener.

Speaker 2 Strange last name, but you never know. She needs to be dedouched.

Speaker 8 You've been dedouched.

Speaker 2 And from now on, she'll be referred to as Dame Janine

Speaker 2 of beat them until morale improves.

Speaker 2 So there's a lot of material in there that's, well, subtle.

Speaker 39 Thank you very much, Travis.

Speaker 72 And she's on the list.

Speaker 91 Anonymous in Bainbridge Island, Washington.

Speaker 40 Also, $1,000.

Speaker 56 I'll say wow again.

Speaker 122 ITM, this donation is a switcheroo.

Speaker 133 Ah, this is a posthumous knighthood for one of the best friends I could have ever asked for.

Speaker 165 It's always a little sad when we have one of those.

Speaker 59 Let me just put it in.

Speaker 72 His name is Craig Phillian.

Speaker 68 He fought long and hard and finally bit the bullet and succumbed to a very aggressive cancer bout only after his insurance refused to pay for his medication.

Speaker 96 Oh, brother.

Speaker 2 That insurance is great.

Speaker 205 Yeah.

Speaker 80 Also, a belated birthday to him as well, which was on the 25th of November.

Speaker 87 Happy birthday.

Speaker 20 You were thought about often.

Speaker 38 Also,

Speaker 84 please add me to the list on November 27th.

Speaker 52 So, anonymous, you're on.

Speaker 48 And now, on a lighter note, your public service as podcasters is very much appreciated and undervalued.

Speaker 20 On top of the archived episodes, the Bingit.io are two of the greatest libraries of knowledge I've come across.

Speaker 197 People should know this.

Speaker 131 Bingit.io, which is part of the Clip Genie Empire, is a phenomenal resource.

Speaker 98 You can just type anything in, it'll pop up.

Speaker 114 You see which episode, whether it's a clip, whether it's mentions or show notes.

Speaker 136 Thank you, Sir Deanonymous.

Speaker 29 That is a great valuable resource.

Speaker 91 And he winds up by saying thank you so much, Anonymous from Bainbridge Island.

Speaker 2 Onward to Justine and Sloan in Bozeman, Montana. And

Speaker 2 they sent in a check and wrote a note. And I got it right here, as you can tell.
ITM John and Adam, thank you for the best podcast in the universe. May I please request one.

Speaker 2 Karma for the Montana State Bobcat football team in their upcoming playoff run.

Speaker 2 Now, we at one time banned this sort of thing, but then we stopped banning it. So, okay, we'll give you that.
It doesn't help usually

Speaker 2 because karma is not for football, but you know, we'll give it a shot. Happy birthday on November 28th to my smoking hot husband, Josh Palmer.
You are the best dad, husband, friend, and man.

Speaker 2 We adore you. Love Justine and Sloan.
Happy Thanksgiving, Adam and John. Oh, thanks.
And Justine has a really pretty writing.

Speaker 2 She signed it.

Speaker 2 I mean, really pretty.

Speaker 35 Associate Executive Producer title for Sir Cal of Lavenderblossoms.com.

Speaker 39 Lavenderblossoms.com.

Speaker 28 Happy Thanksgiving, friends, he says, with $272.72.

Speaker 50 Thanks for all you do.

Speaker 177 To all humans out there, gift someone this year with a lavender salve.

Speaker 136 These are outstanding products. Both John and I have used it.

Speaker 50 You'll score some points, I promise.

Speaker 80 And thanks to all our supporters.

Speaker 13 Sir Cal of, oh, it's lavenderblossoms.org.

Speaker 80 I'm sorry.

Speaker 13 SirCal of Lavenderblossoms.org.

Speaker 51 And if you use the coupon code ITM at checkout, you'll get some kind of deal.

Speaker 68 Thank you, Sir Cal.

Speaker 17 Lavenderblossoms.org.

Speaker 2 Do you have your pen?

Speaker 32 Yeah.

Speaker 2 I don't, I'm not seeing Josh Palmer on the birthday call-out list.

Speaker 2 Because it was on this note. It could have been missed.

Speaker 116 And do you have the details, Josh?

Speaker 2 That would be

Speaker 2 November 28th, my smoking hot husband, Josh Palmer.

Speaker 2 Josh Palmer from Justine.

Speaker 21 No age.

Speaker 89 Okay, got it.

Speaker 46 He's on the list now.

Speaker 2 All right. You just did.

Speaker 77 Yeah, I did the lavender blossoms.

Speaker 2 Okay, now you got it. John C.
Before I go.

Speaker 96 You have to be able to shorten these on the fly, man.

Speaker 2 This is just too long. Yeah, well, it's not a matter of that.
Well, anyways, Alexander.

Speaker 11 It is a night note.

Speaker 2 Alexander Django.

Speaker 2 And I have nothing but gibberish.

Speaker 21 Biargo.

Speaker 20 Not Django.

Speaker 57 Biargo.

Speaker 2 It's B. It says B, B Yargo.
Oh, Yargo. Yeah, B.
Yargo.

Speaker 147 Biargo.

Speaker 99 Biargo.

Speaker 40 Yes, Biargo.

Speaker 32 I agree.

Speaker 2 I guess this is Spain.

Speaker 202 España.

Speaker 2 But

Speaker 2 it's $250.

Speaker 2 Recently, I asked for a donation and 33 people chipped in.

Speaker 2 I asked for donations and 33 people chipped in. I believe this value-for-value donation earns me the honorary title of the Norwegian Knight.

Speaker 2 ES.

Speaker 2 Oh, that is that Estonia?

Speaker 28 I thought ES was Spain.

Speaker 2 I thought it was too, but it could be Estonia. Okay.

Speaker 2 Which would explain all the mess the rest of it is. And it sounds more like an Estonian name.
Bjargo?

Speaker 21 Yeah, like Björk? Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 One of my ancestors was, in fact, among the winter,

Speaker 2 was in fact among the writers of the Norwegian Constitution in 1814. Wow.
When he finally broke free from Denmark, I have a deep, this has got to be Estonia.

Speaker 2 A deep love for my country and its culture. Regarding your recent discussion on Muslim immigrants, I believe you both underrate the impact they can have on Western society like ours.

Speaker 2 Take Dramen, one of

Speaker 2 Norway's largest cities. There are now 21 mosques, and only five, which is all part of the thing.
Only five churches. Well, that's a discussion.

Speaker 65 Yeah, there's your problem.

Speaker 2 Additionally, about 50% of the immigrants from countries like Syria, Iraq, and Afghanistan are on social welfare. Yes, this happens.
Whose fault is this, by the way? You can't blame the Muslims.

Speaker 128 No.

Speaker 2 On top of that, the Muslims are increasingly represented in local and national politics. Of course, they are.
Like the current Speaker of the Parliament, Masood, I can't pronounce his last name.

Speaker 2 Garakani.

Speaker 90 garakani

Speaker 51 the muslims and the socialists are loving each other dude it's bringing it's your best government bro it's your borders are open and your government is letting them in that's what you got to stop we don't have that problem currently

Speaker 2 no but it'll be back uh

Speaker 2 after they impeach trump

Speaker 2 also consider that muslims breed much faster than the other norwegians well that's another issue yeah they say that today's rate Muslims will eventually be in the majority.

Speaker 2 Oslo, the capital, unbelievable, considering that Norway has become a Christian or has been a Christian country for over a thousand years.

Speaker 124 Then don't just rest on your laurels.

Speaker 33 I mean, there's lots of things you can do.

Speaker 2 Finally, I have a theory why your listenership numbers might not be, might not be growing as quickly as

Speaker 2 you deserve.

Speaker 2 Because the listeners like me

Speaker 2 treating the show as a secret advantage.

Speaker 11 Yeah, well, this is probably true.

Speaker 2 Yeah, this is always, this has been read, read it, read it. He said, we're treating the show like a secret advantage in deconstructing the news faster than my peers.

Speaker 2 The social and intellectual capital it gives me is priceless. In other words,

Speaker 2 the show is becoming a cheat

Speaker 2 for people because you get when you, which is what we, the show is done for that purpose.

Speaker 54 Yeah.

Speaker 2 To give you an advantage.

Speaker 11 What's that worth it? What's that process?

Speaker 23 $250.

Speaker 13 That's a good value for value.

Speaker 2 $250.

Speaker 1 Everyone should listen to this.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Anyway,

Speaker 2 that's from

Speaker 87 Alexander. Nice, Alexander.

Speaker 72 Hey, then we have a buddy of mine, Barry from Pod Home.

Speaker 91 Barry from Breda in the Netherlands, $250.

Speaker 32 He says, in the morning, gents, and thank you for your courage.

Speaker 72 For Black Friday, it's a promo.

Speaker 139 For Black Friday, we at Podhome.fm are giving away six months of free podcast hosting for new customers.

Speaker 66 This is a good, he's it's even when you pay, he's very, very, I don't want to say cheap, but it's cost effective.

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Speaker 11 I believe this to be true.

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Speaker 206 To get started with your first six months free after that, $15.99 a month or $185 per year for unlimited podcasting.

Speaker 20 Barry's a good deal and he's a good guy.

Speaker 1 Now, what is this again?

Speaker 2 He is uh a podcast hosting company yes a modern podcast hosting company with all of the cool features and very cost effective is it any good it's very good i've used it it's very good

Speaker 177 this is something mimi should be using for her local podcast i recommend i think i recommended it to her I said podhome.fm because you just you throw your mp3 file in there.

Speaker 122 It does chapters, transcripts, show notes, all automatic.

Speaker 16 It would be great for us, but

Speaker 59 we're kind of stuck in our infrastructure.

Speaker 2 Our infrastructure is great.

Speaker 15 And also,

Speaker 60 I don't know if Barry would be very happy with the amount of traffic that we consume twice a week.

Speaker 32 That might

Speaker 2 be a good thing. No, he'd go nothing.
It would break him.

Speaker 139 It would break it.

Speaker 97 It would raise the price for everybody.

Speaker 57 So we don't want to.

Speaker 2 We pay big dough to keep the bandwidth up. We do.
And we have a specialist who does the job in the background.

Speaker 63 Void Zero, the one and only.

Speaker 71 Yeah.

Speaker 2 And gets paid on time.

Speaker 22 Okay.

Speaker 2 Alan Hutchcraft in Mary, Maysville, Maryland, 250. He has a note.

Speaker 2 It consists of two sheets, and he's handwritten it.

Speaker 32 Oh, goodness.

Speaker 2 It's actually not bad. He prints.

Speaker 2 It's not longhand. In the morning, John and Adam, as I'm about to complete my 50th approved trip around the sun, November 29th, he's on the list, I'm sure.
It is time for me to quit being a douchebag

Speaker 2 and donate.

Speaker 2 I was hitting the mouse seven years ago by one of my best friends, by the way, he donated 250,

Speaker 2 Gavin Lent, who is also a douchebag.

Speaker 4 Douchebag.

Speaker 2 It only took a few minutes of listening to the best podcast in the universe to realize that he was on to something great.

Speaker 2 I've hit several people in the mouse, but I want to call out my co-worker and fellow assistant principal, Jason Lenz, as a douchebag.

Speaker 4 Douchebag.

Speaker 2 Hopefully, he and Gavin will see the light and donate.

Speaker 128 Wow.

Speaker 2 During the season of Thanksgiving, I want to thank both. By the way, let's give

Speaker 2 Alan here a dedouching right off the top.

Speaker 8 You've been dedouched.

Speaker 2 During this season of Thanksgiving, I want to thank both of you for

Speaker 2 working on Thanksgiving. Oh, no, no, he says it for your amygdala shrinking work each

Speaker 2 Thursday and Sunday as our scheduled district faces

Speaker 2 school district. School, I'm sorry, school.

Speaker 129 Wow.

Speaker 2 You can see where I got a D in that, don't you?

Speaker 2 School. School district faces

Speaker 2 financial challenges. I would ask for a jobs, Karma, for those of us wanting to continue serving our students and community.
Thank you for your attention to this matter.

Speaker 11 All righty.

Speaker 8 You've got karma.

Speaker 139 I just realized I forgot to give out a jobs karma for the note earlier.

Speaker 210 Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs. Let's vote for jobs.

Speaker 6 You've got karma.

Speaker 68 Now we come to 233.33 Little John's Candies from Somerset, California with a note that is too long, but I will see what I can do here.

Speaker 87 In the morning, John and Adam, hopefully you've both been to your P.O.

Speaker 120 box recently and found a package from us.

Speaker 80 I did not see a package yet.

Speaker 36 Did you see it?

Speaker 2 I have a package.

Speaker 146 I got the package. Inside.

Speaker 2 And it includes some, it includes some olive oil and it includes some.

Speaker 7 Well, I'll read it here.

Speaker 72 Inside, you will find our world-famous English toffee and our chocolate turkeys.

Speaker 2 Okay, stop.

Speaker 2 The chocolate turkey is a work of art.

Speaker 57 I'm going to have to go to the P.O.

Speaker 20 box before we go to our.

Speaker 2 The chocolate turkey is a work of art. I don't know how they got this mold.
It's very detailed. It's unbelievable.

Speaker 90 It also includes a bottle of wine from one of our fellow small businesses here in Amdur County, driven sellers, and a bottle of olive oil from another local small business, Slow 220.

Speaker 177 I thought you might enjoy these for your Thanksgiving holiday.

Speaker 72 Being from a family of small business owners, I often think of value, and you guys certainly deliver real value.

Speaker 72 I think of how I can ensure that the people in my community are directly affected by my business.

Speaker 72 The most impactful way for me to do that is for Little John's to spend its money with other local small businesses, whether it's a box or a bag, almonds or butter, or any of the other basic nuts and bolts that you need to run a business, we shop small.

Speaker 72 My father always taught me that when we spent money with another small business, it grew the community and enabled the community to spend money with us.

Speaker 22 True.

Speaker 80 And that's why you should spend money on your podcasters to help podcasting grow.

Speaker 81 At Little John's Candies, we've been making candy exactly the same way for over 100 years while staying true to that small local business model.

Speaker 59 Our business model was built over 100 years ago.

Speaker 98 With no advertising dollars into the budget, we simply didn't build discounts into our margins to drive sales.

Speaker 87 Our prices have always been based on value.

Speaker 72 That doesn't mean we're the best price on the market, but we've always been a fair price.

Speaker 87 I think you'll best price.

Speaker 136 We've always prided ourselves on the idea that we charge the same price to everyone and rarely provide discounts.

Speaker 72 I share this because I want to show my appreciation for the value you give by offering you and this community a little extra value from us.

Speaker 32 10% off your order.

Speaker 132 That is a discount.

Speaker 98 Anytime between now and Christmas, and if you buy our world-famous English toffee, we'll donate 10% of that to the No Agenda Show in your name.

Speaker 24 Our world-famous toffee is made with simple ingredients, butter, sugar, almonds, and chocolate.

Speaker 56 It has been shipped all over the world.

Speaker 114 Families have built traditions around giving, receiving, and sharing it at the holidays.

Speaker 136 We pride ourselves in still making our toffee fresh and cook to perfection.

Speaker 57 Use code ITM10 plus 10, that's P-L-U-S, at checkout.

Speaker 136 No jingles because I had too long of a note, and thank you for your courage.

Speaker 77 Christopher and the Little John, Little John's elves.

Speaker 127 P.S., did I mention we offer gift wrap at no extra charge?

Speaker 27 Now, who does that?

Speaker 1 Wow. Okay.

Speaker 95 Thank you. Thank you so much.

Speaker 24 Sorry, we went to the, must have just come in because we went to the P.A.

Speaker 38 box earlier, but didn't see it.

Speaker 2 Do you have a post office box locally?

Speaker 11 Or you have to drive all the way to Austin?

Speaker 73 No, no, it's here locally.

Speaker 21 Oh, okay.

Speaker 55 At the Fredericksburg Post Office, baby.

Speaker 2 Barbara Kemp comes in from Granger, Indiana, 2.23, and she has a note that is impossible to read.

Speaker 71 Yeah.

Speaker 2 She

Speaker 2 has a birthday coming up, and she's got a birthday call out for someone.

Speaker 2 Somebody, she's calling out a birthday for someone who's going to be 100 years old.

Speaker 129 Wow.

Speaker 2 So this is the kind of broad range of demo that we have on our show. Yeah.
Zeds to a hundred.

Speaker 18 Zeds to centennials.

Speaker 2 So she, she, okay, here's, I'm going to explain what happened here. I have the note in front of me.

Speaker 8 It's impossible to read.

Speaker 2 It's impossible to read. She has good handwriting, but she's she's 71.
And that this, I have to assume that she's, when she learned her handwriting skills, and this is longhand, this is not printed,

Speaker 2 she's got a great hand, but she's using a light ink, which makes it tough, even though the copy is a little better looking than the paper itself.

Speaker 2 But everything is jammed together so tight, it makes it very difficult to read aloud. It's readable.
And so she says, starts off with hell.

Speaker 2 Oh, no, I'm sorry. It says well.

Speaker 2 So she's using a W from,

Speaker 2 it's like French. The French have a weird pin.

Speaker 2 Well, finally, a moment to write a note and tell you, and Adam.

Speaker 2 Adam,

Speaker 2 thanks. Yes, help me out here.
Thanks. I believe I started listening to the no agenda about

Speaker 67 the time Adam was

Speaker 2 returning from some trip.

Speaker 89 Yeah.

Speaker 88 His travel

Speaker 12 logs

Speaker 2 are always amusing and

Speaker 2 they are particularly

Speaker 39 that particular day exceptional. The TSA.

Speaker 84 The TSA has a way of making his flying days exceptional.

Speaker 88 LOL.

Speaker 72 From that day on, I was hooked.

Speaker 39 My son-in-law, Seth, had been listening for years and knew the king and I would jump right on board, the king and I.

Speaker 32 And no,

Speaker 32 we have, and

Speaker 45 so we have for years

Speaker 61 and especially appreciated the COVID madness.

Speaker 134 Can't inserted something, you two kept the king and I sane.

Speaker 67 The king and I,

Speaker 72 but the king is gone in another

Speaker 202 something

Speaker 18 festing adventure.

Speaker 100 Another

Speaker 1 long,

Speaker 2 long festering, long festering.

Speaker 23 And so I'm home alone.

Speaker 70 Ah, somebody go keep her company.

Speaker 142 There's nothing better in my mind than to see a lettuce and a lettuce.

Speaker 12 A letter.

Speaker 2 A letter.

Speaker 50 Then to pen a letter and send in a donation.

Speaker 202 I got you.

Speaker 140 And since my mother is due, my mother is due to be 100 November 28th.

Speaker 142 I wanted you and Adam to wish her happy, wish her a happy one for me.

Speaker 121 My mother,

Speaker 1 this is

Speaker 11 Alberta.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 34 Chugs along.

Speaker 126 Was she drinking Chardonnay?

Speaker 72 Chugs along and for the most part does well mentally.

Speaker 135 Current events stump her,

Speaker 13 but

Speaker 68 events of the past come to mind

Speaker 44 of 10.

Speaker 44 My brother and I,

Speaker 117 my brother and I learn new things all the time.

Speaker 68 Since 100 seems like a

Speaker 18 measly amount, measly amount, I'll add on a bit more.

Speaker 68 I turned 71 the 25th of November.

Speaker 46 Congratulations.

Speaker 91 My daughter, Rachel, was 35 May 2nd, and my granddaughter, Edith Eady, is 17 months.

Speaker 195 Four generations comes to a grand total of $223.

Speaker 209 We are all

Speaker 51 flyover girls.

Speaker 13 fly girls or shall i say good

Speaker 91 mediterranean stock.

Speaker 119 Hopefully, the enclosed donation.

Speaker 2 I'm surprised we're even trying to get through this.

Speaker 17 My mom used to write like this, so this is why she

Speaker 114 hopefully the enclosed donation will fill up your bank account some too.

Speaker 40 Thank you.

Speaker 142 Mom, the king, and I,

Speaker 39 happy Thanksgiving to truly, Barbara Kemp.

Speaker 73 P.S.

Speaker 52 The jam is from my kitchen.

Speaker 55 The fruit crop was perfect this year.

Speaker 32 Wow. Thank you for the note.

Speaker 73 I appreciate that.

Speaker 139 That's really beautiful. Happy birthday to Alberta.

Speaker 115 100 years. Yeah, wow.

Speaker 7 Wow is right.

Speaker 11 That's a big deal.

Speaker 2 Very few people can accomplish that feat.

Speaker 71 Yes.

Speaker 2 You're up.

Speaker 31 I just read an entire note.

Speaker 11 All right, Beth. Douche.

Speaker 11 Douche.

Speaker 2 Beth Elliott in Coreytown, Tennessee. Oops, another note.

Speaker 2 This is from page seven. Let's see if we can do it.

Speaker 50 Oh, it says ITM gents.

Speaker 28 I can read this.

Speaker 39 Beth, 222.

Speaker 2 Hey, you're cheating again. I'm going to read it.
ITM Gets. Congratulations.
Thank you for your courage. Yours truly, Beth, a.k.a.

Speaker 13 Beth.

Speaker 33 Thank you, Beth.

Speaker 2 Thank you, Beth. Bay, Beth.
Bay, Beth.

Speaker 72 And there's Eli the Coffee Guy with $211.27, $200 plus today's date, $11.27.

Speaker 32 He's from Bensonville, Illinois.

Speaker 81 I am enjoying his product as we speak.

Speaker 33 He says, with the turkey on the table and Thanksgiving entering the rear view, the season of America consumerism and year-end retrospectives is in full swing. We've got John and the No Agenda Show.

Speaker 59 What am I? Chop Liva?

Speaker 75 Yeah.

Speaker 72 We've got John, John, and the No Agenda Show to thank for reminding us where the holiday even came from.

Speaker 165 Oh, that's true.

Speaker 20 As a producer, I'm grateful for you too and your dedication showing up even on the holidays.

Speaker 55 And while we're on gratitude, I'm thankful for all producers out there who start their morning with gigawatt.

Speaker 54 Quick heads up.

Speaker 84 If you missed the early access email, no worries.

Speaker 75 Our cans are officially available to everyone, and we're kicking off a site-wide Black Friday sale through Monday.

Speaker 122 So visit gigawattcoffeeroasters.com and treat yourself or someone else to the gift of good coffee.

Speaker 48 Stay caffeinated, says Eli the coffee guy.

Speaker 137 Thank you, Eli.

Speaker 78 I love the cold brews.

Speaker 11 Although,

Speaker 11 here's a tip I have, because it says shake vigorously to release the nitro.

Speaker 79 Yeah.

Speaker 133 So when you do that, you want to grab like a Kleenex or something before you open it.

Speaker 2 Yeah,

Speaker 2 that's with all nitro stuff.

Speaker 40 Yeah, because it sprays, sprays.

Speaker 29 Yeah, it'll spray you.

Speaker 31 Yeah.

Speaker 133 So just open it with a Kleenex and then toss that away.

Speaker 59 It's good.

Speaker 2 You could use a napkin.

Speaker 114 Napkin is, yes, yes, appropriate.

Speaker 2 I want to just interim here.

Speaker 2 Thank Sir Benjamin Ritgers.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 also, some some other person sent one of these. I got two of those flags I've been wanting to get free.

Speaker 11 Oh, the flag with the pirate.

Speaker 32 The pirate guy.

Speaker 49 The anime.

Speaker 2 The stolen crossbones.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I got two of these flags. The one made in

Speaker 46 China, by the way.

Speaker 132 Yeah, the One Piece flag.

Speaker 2 They're made in China, which I thought was ironic.

Speaker 2 So I want to thank them for the flags. I have flags hanging now.

Speaker 73 I look like a protester.

Speaker 13 You don't even have a flagpole, man.

Speaker 2 I don't have a flagpole, and I'm glad.

Speaker 2 Matthew

Speaker 2 Martell, our buddy in Brewmall, Pennsylvania, the spat 21060. The spats between Adam and JCD are akin to Andy Kaufman and Jerry Lawler.

Speaker 11 That's a callback that I get.

Speaker 2 Adam doesn't get. Very few people will get.

Speaker 2 It's an op, everybody. Visit MartellHardworld.com.
Use coupon code code RAGEBAIT for an additional 10% off your order. Happy Thanksgiving.
JCD Hot Pockets is what he wants to hear. Hot Pockets.

Speaker 70 And coming in with $209, Dame Patricia Worthington from Merced, Merced, Merced, Merced, California, handwritten note.

Speaker 211 Dear Adam Adonna.

Speaker 2 It says Dame Patricia. Now, Worthington is the one.

Speaker 2 Dame Patricia Worthington is in Florida.

Speaker 136 Oh, I'm sorry. This is just Dame Patricia.

Speaker 87 I'm so sorry.

Speaker 61 Thank you for the correction.

Speaker 133 And she has a birthday, November 29th.

Speaker 114 Is that on the list?

Speaker 122 Can you check that for me?

Speaker 52 Let me just see.

Speaker 15 Is she on?

Speaker 15 Yeah, she got it.

Speaker 2 When Jay puts it on the note at the top, is it on the list?

Speaker 99 Yes, it's there. Okay.

Speaker 52 Here's her note, which I can read.

Speaker 59 Thanks to my mom.

Speaker 56 Dear John Adam, I have been a loyal listener since the dark days of 2020.

Speaker 211 Thank you for illuminating.

Speaker 195 Thank you for illuminating for your illuminating commentaries.

Speaker 72 Please wish my daughter, Emily Mitchell, a happy birthday, November 29th.

Speaker 2 Another follower of your show in Uriah, California.

Speaker 72 Ukay.

Speaker 114 Ukay, California.

Speaker 197 Now let's plug my son's business.

Speaker 11 Okay.

Speaker 70 Brian Lewis's surface painting and wallpapering.

Speaker 40 featuring Italian plastering and specialty finishes in Atascadero, San Luis Obispo County, California.

Speaker 2 San Luis.

Speaker 114 Oh, I always thought it was San Luis.

Speaker 73 Okay, San Luis Obispo.

Speaker 28 Text Brian. Text him right now.

Speaker 32 Everybody, text Brian.

Speaker 2 It's all text Brian.

Speaker 206 805-470-9917.

Speaker 131 You can rewind that to hear it again.

Speaker 32 So he knows you're a real person and not Yelp or Google trying to sell some advertising space.

Speaker 2 Now he's going to get spammed by ITMs from every Rando that listens to the show.

Speaker 63 Claim your no-agenda discount.

Speaker 13 That's right.

Speaker 72 May God bless you and keep you well.

Speaker 136 Dame Patricia, with practically perfect penmanship. God bless you too, Dame Patricia.

Speaker 2 No, thank you. Thank you very much.

Speaker 37 Not that.

Speaker 178 I loved it.

Speaker 2 But I will say this: doing Italian plastering is a big deal.

Speaker 205 Yes.

Speaker 2 So this guy's probably really good. All right, onward.
Linda Lupeck, and there she is in Lakewood, Colorado, for 200 bucks.

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Speaker 210 Jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs.

Speaker 167 Let's go for jobs.

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Speaker 55 I believe that concludes our executive and associate executive producers for episode 1820, our Thanksgiving special episode.

Speaker 136 We're so happy that everyone supported us, and I'd like that we were able to take a little extra time to read some of these handwritten notes.

Speaker 68 It is highly appreciated, if only for John and I.

Speaker 13 Again, we'll thank the rest of our donors, $50 and above, coming up pretty soon, because I do have to get out of here on time, and we're running long, thanks to those notes.

Speaker 63 So go to noagendadonations.com.

Speaker 33 It's value for value.

Speaker 116 Whatever you get out of the show, stick it right back in.

Speaker 211 Noagendadonations.com.

Speaker 100 Congrats to the executive and associate executive producers our formula is this

Speaker 201 we go out we hit people in the mouth

Speaker 2 I have one presentation on the sex scandal going on in the Army, which I think is disgusting. Sex scandal? I have random clips.

Speaker 11 This is an A-block

Speaker 61 type thing. What, you left that for the D-block?

Speaker 2 Yeah, well, I could have played it earlier, but I think it was so much more important that we discuss the

Speaker 74 what?

Speaker 2 The

Speaker 2 don't abandon the ship or whatever that is.

Speaker 137 Yeah, yeah. The seditious six.

Speaker 87 I got you. All right.

Speaker 40 Okay, so set us up.

Speaker 55 What is this about?

Speaker 2 Well, it sets itself up. It's self-explanatory, but this isn't getting a lot of play.
I don't know why, but

Speaker 2 maybe it's because everyone's on vacation. They don't want to cover anything.

Speaker 37 They don't want to work.

Speaker 11 They don't want to work.

Speaker 2 Nobody wants to work. And so here we go.
The PBS apparently does want to work. And so they gave us this report.
It's dynamite.

Speaker 179 This week, the U.S.

Speaker 105 Army has been reckoning with a sexual abuse scandal that could involve the largest number of allegations in its history. An Army doctor is accused of abusing women who were under his care.

Speaker 105 Here's Anna Navas.

Speaker 156 The Army has sent out approximately 2,500 patient notification letters to women examined by one doctor within its ranks. Oh, man.

Speaker 156 It's part of a massive investigation into cases of alleged sexual abuse, all patients of 47-year-old doctor and Army Major Blaine McGraw.

Speaker 156 He's an OBGYN at Fort Hood in Texas, and before that, at an Army base in Hawaii, approximately 80 women have filed a legal complaint against him.

Speaker 156 One case alleges that McGraw, quote, used his position of trust to sexually exploit, manipulate, and secretly record women under his care.

Speaker 156 Joining us now is Attorney Andrew Kobos, representing 70 alleged victims of Dr. McGraw.
Kobos is a West Point graduate who served in the U.S. Army, including at Fort Hood.
Andrew, welcome to the show.

Speaker 156 Thanks for joining us.

Speaker 37 Glad to be here.

Speaker 156 So just start by telling us about these women that you're representing. Who are they? Are they active duty? Are they military spouses?

Speaker 156 And what exactly are they alleging was done to them by this doctor?

Speaker 152 The majority of the women that we represent are military spouses, and they span all four branches of the military: Army, Air Force, Navy, and Marine.

Speaker 152 Now, this abuse happened both at Fort Hood and in Hawaii at Tripler Army Medical Center. And there were hundreds, if not thousands, of women under Dr.
McGraw's care.

Speaker 152 And he violated them in multiple ways. He took photographs and videos of them as they were in their most vulnerable position in his exam room.

Speaker 152 He touched them in improper ways that were medically unnecessary.

Speaker 152 And on occasion, he induced birth without their consent, without their knowledge, and without notification to their family that they were going to give birth.

Speaker 152 And so this is, as I've been describing it, one of the most, one of the largest and most significant sexual assault cases in the history of the military.

Speaker 22 Holy crap.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you haven't even heard of it, have you?

Speaker 17 No, what kind of creep is this guy?

Speaker 126 This is like the soccer coach.

Speaker 2 No, the Olympic guy.

Speaker 57 Yeah, whatever.

Speaker 72 Like so many doctors.

Speaker 87 I mean, sorry, doctors, but so it's a lot of doctors out there that are

Speaker 2 up to no good.

Speaker 136 You know what it is, is because he's talking to his chat bot all day.

Speaker 2 All right, I'm going to just get this wrapped.

Speaker 156 And one of the complaints filed by Jane Doe, obviously her identity is protected.

Speaker 156 She talked about invasive breast and vaginal exams that were unnecessary, not being given a medical gown to wear during those examinations.

Speaker 156 And then, as you mentioned, secretly being recorded on a phone that Dr. McGraw kept in his jacket pocket.
How did your clients come to learn about those photos and videos?

Speaker 152 Fortunately, one of the women that we represent had her husband in the examination room. Now, this is not a common occurrence.
It was actually a rare occurrence for Dr.

Speaker 152 McGraw to have anybody, to allow anybody in the exam room while he was working on these patients. And the husband.

Speaker 14 of his patient was behind Dr.

Speaker 152 McGraw. He leaned in while he was doing a pelvic examination and his phone in his lab coat tipped forward.

Speaker 152 The husband was able to visually see that the phone was on record and immediately he was concerned about

Speaker 2 his wife, about her in this position.

Speaker 105 And so he tried notifying the chain of command.

Speaker 152 He called CID. Fortunately, CID started an investigation and he experienced a lot of frustration trying to bring his complaints and trying to bring awareness.

Speaker 152 to the military that this doctor was unlawfully and improperly recording his patients. And so ultimately, CID got involved.

Speaker 152 An investigation was undertaken, and they found large numbers of videos and photographs on his phone.

Speaker 156 CID, of course, is the criminal investigative division of the Army. The Army did provide us with a statement, which I want to read to you in part here.

Speaker 156 They said they're committed to supporting patients affected by the allegations.

Speaker 156 They've swiftly established a call center, assigned a special victims counsel, are actively notifying patients, and they say they've created a patient support line as well.

Speaker 156 They're encouraging people with information to come forward.

Speaker 51 I'm hoping that we, in these next two clips, we get to

Speaker 46 how many women he's done this to or something.

Speaker 2 Well, they did say 86 are on his list. Okay.

Speaker 37 Whoops.

Speaker 2 And the over 1,200 women have been sent letters. So he knows it could be over 1,000 easily.

Speaker 2 Oh, man. And the thing about it is the next clips are the part that are disgusting, which is the women who had these issues.
They

Speaker 2 tell somebody about it right away.

Speaker 1 And they're, eh, whatever.

Speaker 2 And so nobody cares. nobody does anything until this, that the

Speaker 2 male that catches the guy, who's an obvious idiot, says he's got the camera recording with his, you know, as his wife is being examined, and he catches this and it starts, and he still has to struggle.

Speaker 2 This is the last clipso explain this.

Speaker 156 But as you mentioned, Andrew, before Fort Hood, Dr. McGraw was posted in Hawaii, they tell us in a statement that they're in the process of notifying Dr.
McGraw's patients.

Speaker 156 You told my colleague that you spoke to nurses at that Hawaii medical center. What did you hear from them?

Speaker 152 When I spoke to the nurses at Tripler Army Medical Center, what they said is that it was common knowledge around Tripler that there were allegations against Dr.

Speaker 152 McGraw of videotaping and recording his patients, so much so that it was a standing joke among the folks at Tripler that Dr. McGraw always got the crazy patients.
And that is what I've heard.

Speaker 152 We are working to establish in greater detail the investigation that was conducted over McGraw at Tripler Medical Center.

Speaker 152 We know that there was an investigation, but so far we haven't heard from the Army. And that's left a lot of people wondering, how long did the Army know? What did they know?

Speaker 152 And why didn't they take proactive measures to address these situations?

Speaker 156 So, you know that there was a complaint at the Hawaii Medical Center before he was transferred to Fort Hood.

Speaker 156 I know some of your clients said they complained about this doctor, and those complaints went nowhere.

Speaker 152 Really, we have a couple different issues there. One is that complaints were going unrecognized.

Speaker 152 I have clients who, after visiting with McGraw, stepped outside into the hospital and they talked to the on-duty nurse. They talked to the sergeant who was at the desk in tears.

Speaker 152 One of my clients tells me she was in tears and she talked for 10 minutes and she said, he violated me.

Speaker 152 And she was given a telephone number and said, I can't take a report. Call this number.
And she called the number time after time after time after time. And she got hung up on.
She got put on hold.

Speaker 152 She was unable to actually make the report. And this is one of the common complaints.

Speaker 39 Well, this is depressing for Thanksgiving.

Speaker 2 I like to go out on a high note.

Speaker 2 So, yes, and this is a classic example. I've noticed this with other government agencies.
They give you a phone number. There's nobody there at the other end.

Speaker 2 They hang up or they go, or, oh, hold on a second, click.

Speaker 2 It's just, it's horrible. And this is inexcusable.
And the thing that bothers me the most is nobody will hang for this.

Speaker 2 The doctor will get a slap on their wrist.

Speaker 2 Maybe he even goes to prison, but all the other people are responsible.

Speaker 2 The people who didn't take the reports, the people who didn't take it seriously, the phony baloney phone number you're supposed to call and nobody answers. Nobody will get any

Speaker 2 reprimands or

Speaker 2 anything because that's it, which is what this stuff continues to happen happen because of that. Allowing, you know, it's just allowing people to slide.

Speaker 156 I realize there are a lot of questions still unanswered here, Andrew, but what does justice look like? What's the accountability your clients are seeking?

Speaker 152 There are multiple ways that justice should occur and accountability should occur in this situation. The first and most obvious way is to hold the perpetrator responsible for his actions.

Speaker 152 But McGraw is also accountable to my clients who he victimized. But more than that, the Army is accountable and they should be held responsible for what they did not do in this situation.

Speaker 152 My clients are ultimately filing a federal tort claims act lawsuit against the Army and they're seeking restitution for the damages and the harms that they suffered at the hands of an Army employee who should have been removed from that position.

Speaker 152 And the unfortunate thing is that this is a pattern. that happens in the Army and quite frankly happens in all of the military services.

Speaker 152 And if you just want to go back to the Vanessa Guillain incident in 2020 and look at what the fallout was from that incident, a 272-page report addressing the shortcomings of the Army.

Speaker 105 And it happens again and again and again.

Speaker 152 And I think that that is what accountability looks like.

Speaker 152 It looks like reforming the system, not just paying it lip service, but actually going in and figuring out how do we address the problem of sexual assault in the military.

Speaker 152 And that is a good starting point to address the problems that these victims faced and what accountability looks like in the Army. Well,

Speaker 2 yeah. And we can also go to look at James Comer.
The whole thing is the Republicans, it's everybody, it's a bureaucracy. They never, there's no accountability.

Speaker 2 Nobody ever gets reprimanded or punished. This is it just continues on.
And who pays the bill for this? The taxpayers. You're paying for

Speaker 2 these issues because they're going to get sued. The Army's going to have to pay a big fine and the military budget has to go.

Speaker 75 Here's what I recommend, everybody.

Speaker 119 Callthesuits.com.

Speaker 19 Call a guy who knows the ropes.

Speaker 33 Rob the constitutional lawyer.

Speaker 72 He'll get you millions.

Speaker 2 Yeah, well, you can do that if you want, but

Speaker 11 that was completely.

Speaker 2 That's going to cost the taxpayers money. Yeah, okay.

Speaker 202 Well, you could have done two clips, honestly.

Speaker 37 It's like eight minutes. I thought it was

Speaker 32 eight minutes of that.

Speaker 32 You would have said the same thing if I did it.

Speaker 177 You just said, yeah, it was okay.

Speaker 2 But I would have after the show.

Speaker 11 Oh.

Speaker 197 All right. I'll end this on a high note.

Speaker 44 Ready?

Speaker 71 Campbell's.

Speaker 207 This morning, Campbell's Soup is denying claims about its products, allegedly made by an executive in a recorded conversation.

Speaker 207 The person in the recording is also heard belittling Campbell's customers during an expletive-filled rant.

Speaker 87 This is unlistenable this little bit, but I left it in because he's basically saying, I don't eat that crap.

Speaker 204 Why does anyone buy that crap? I don't eat our bioengineered.

Speaker 2 Executive, and he's also talking about the thing, I hope you have it in there, is that is the

Speaker 2 what is it? The 3D printed chicken is in the chicken noodles.

Speaker 40 Yeah, yeah, that's what he says.

Speaker 63 I won't eat 3D printed chicken.

Speaker 14 bioengineered meat, I don't want to eat a finger of a piece of chicken that came from a 3D printer.

Speaker 207 The recording is allegedly from a conversation that's now part of a lawsuit filed by Robert Garza, a cybersecurity analyst for Campbell's, who claims he was fired after reporting the alleged remarks, which he says also included racist comments about company employees.

Speaker 207 Garza claims Campbell executive Martin Bally made those comments after the two met to discuss Garza's salary. In a statement, Garza's attorney saying, This situation has been very hard on Robert.

Speaker 207 He thought Campbell's would be thankful that he reported Martin's behavior, but instead, he was abruptly fired. Campbell's responding saying, if the comments were in fact made, they are unacceptable.

Speaker 207 They do not reflect our values and the culture of our company. And going on to say, the comments heard on the recording about our food are not only inaccurate, they are patently absurd.

Speaker 201 Nothing melts away the cold like a delicious hot bowl of Campbell's soup.

Speaker 207 Campbell saying, the chicken meat used in our soups comes from long-trusted, USDA-approved U.S. suppliers and meets our high-quality standards.

Speaker 207 And the company noting, Bally worked in IT and had nothing to do with food production. Bally is on leave pending a company investigation.

Speaker 207 In the meantime, the Attorney General in Florida, a state that bans lab-grown meat, says his office is now investigating Campbell's products.

Speaker 19 I guarantee you, it's lab-grown meat.

Speaker 48 You know it. Oh, it's USDA-approved products.

Speaker 72 Oh, okay.

Speaker 73 Who knows what's in there if it's USDA-approved?

Speaker 39 It sounds believable.

Speaker 2 How is this an an upbeat note?

Speaker 63 Well, because nobody in their right mind eats Campbell's soup.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but that's not upbeat.

Speaker 2 You're slamming the company, and it's just a negative story.

Speaker 2 I thought you have something funny.

Speaker 58 Well, do a talk clip then.

Speaker 2 Oh, no, the TikTok clip's not funny either.

Speaker 2 I do have something that's got to be kind of funny.

Speaker 11 Well,

Speaker 88 oh.

Speaker 2 I don't sound like you.

Speaker 87 No, it's more like.

Speaker 2 Well, let's let's do this.

Speaker 2 Let's play the weather report because everyone's traveling right now, and there's a Thanksgiving cold blast.

Speaker 177 Okay, that'll do it.

Speaker 105 On this day before Thanksgiving, a major winter storm and a plunge in temperatures is wreaking havoc with many travelers' schedules.

Speaker 105 Flight delays are piling up, and as John Yang reports, temperatures will drop to 20 degrees below normal in much of the central and eastern parts of the country.

Speaker 7 Climate change is real.

Speaker 16 I'm going to show my support by donating to no agenda.

Speaker 32 Imagine all the people who could do that.

Speaker 11 Oh, yeah, that'd be fab.

Speaker 71 Yeah,

Speaker 71 on no agenda

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Speaker 2 Yes, we're our segways, and we have a few people to thank. Over $50, not as many as I thought, but quite a few.
And Adam will read them off one at a time.

Speaker 122 Talia Dupree is in McKinney, Texas, not too far from here, $150.

Speaker 84 And she is also asking to be on the birthday list.

Speaker 177 Is she on the birthday list?

Speaker 39 Is a good question.

Speaker 114 No, she's not.

Speaker 71 Jay.

Speaker 11 Talia.

Speaker 23 Talia. What's her last name?

Speaker 55 Dupree, 42. Okay.

Speaker 36 Talia Dupree, 42 on the 28th.

Speaker 136 Yeah, we got you.

Speaker 90 Just in time.

Speaker 68 Oh, Dame Rita, Sparks, Nevada, 133.33.

Speaker 92 And she did add a little note, which I will share because she's always donating.

Speaker 136 I witnessed several young adults buying Costco's ready-made mac and cheese for their potluck Thanksgiving gathering.

Speaker 117 The show's mac and cheese jingle came to mind.

Speaker 132 Yes, we've been predicting this for 18 years.

Speaker 68 Christine Hines, Manchester, New Hampshire, 12345.

Speaker 77 Thank you.

Speaker 72 Robin Robin Tolberts, Topeka, Kansas, 103.33.

Speaker 87 Message received.

Speaker 32 William Galton, Naples, Florida, 100.

Speaker 72 Anonymous from San Francisco, Anon, I should say, 100.

Speaker 197 Frank Maliani, Malinari from Bulverde, Texas, $100.

Speaker 28 Kevin McLaughlin, there he is.

Speaker 11 Bulverde.

Speaker 12 Bulverdi. Yes.

Speaker 119 He's in Concord, North Carolina.

Speaker 77 He is the Archduke of Luna and lover of boobs, and he comes in with 8008.

Speaker 95 Thank you very much.

Speaker 92 Victoria P.

Speaker 122 in West Orange, New Jersey. Hello, West Orange.

Speaker 72 This is a switcheroo for James Ramsook.

Speaker 32 77.35 towards knighthood of my hot and humble husband.

Speaker 122 It's his 35th birthday on Thanksgiving.

Speaker 28 And he says, John, please don't forget your tip of the day for the knives, or I would be left without a Christmas gift.

Speaker 11 That's a hint.

Speaker 131 Okay, it's coming.

Speaker 114 John Alberini, $70.26.

Speaker 68 Dame Becky, Arlington, Washington, $69.69, dudes.

Speaker 15 Raymond Baker Jr., Hoffman Estates, Illinois, $67.67.

Speaker 34 Dame Liberty Mom, Vista, California.

Speaker 120 Small boobs for her.

Speaker 31 $6006.

Speaker 114 Nancy McMurphy, San Bruno, California, $57.21.

Speaker 61 Surprise in Yukon, Yukon, Oklahoma, 54.44.

Speaker 97 Luke Elbert, Murphy, North Carolina, switcheroo for his brother Jake Elbert, who needs karma, coming up, $54.

Speaker 114 Nathan Gwynn in Jackson, Tennessee, $52.72.

Speaker 2 Frank Pugh, Tallahassee, Florida, $52.71.

Speaker 67 Interesting.

Speaker 25 There's one penny difference for some reason.

Speaker 39 And Mike Valak in Chattanooga, Tennessee, $52.71.

Speaker 68 We have Bob Newell in Penfield, Pennsylvania, $52.50. Baron Henry from Ranchos Palos Verdas in California, 52.42.

Speaker 195 Andrew Benz from Imperial, Missouri, 5005.

Speaker 51 And here, the 50s.

Speaker 63 Brett Denton from Boise, Idaho.

Speaker 13 Melissa Alvarez from Ponte Verdra Beach, Florida, 50.

Speaker 202 George Wushett in Lavernia, Texas, 50.

Speaker 91 Aaron Weisgerber in Bend, Oregon.

Speaker 72 Benjamin Ryan in Alliance, Ohio.

Speaker 202 Richard Gardner,

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Speaker 14 Ox Utherix, Buffalo, New York.

Speaker 91 Michael Myers from Diamondhead, Diamondhead, Missouri, Sir Michael from Snohomish, Washington, and wrapping up our row of 50s, Leanne Shipley in Covington, Washington.

Speaker 55 We appreciate all of you so much, as well as our executive and associate executive producers for today's episode.

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Speaker 195 Typically for anonymity, we'll never mention you under 50, but we do see you $49.99.

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Speaker 115 It's a birthday, birthday.

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Speaker 212 Barbara Kemp turned 71 on the 25th.

Speaker 139 Happy birthday, Barbara, was a beautiful note.

Speaker 214 Anonymous from Bainbridge Island wishes Craig Phillian a happy one. He celebrated on the 25th.
And Anonymous from Bainbridge Island celebrates today, the 27th.

Speaker 212 Victoria P., happy birthday to her hot and humble husband, James Ramaswak, turns 35 today. Jesse Dvorak, turning 27.

Speaker 2 Congratulations. No.

Speaker 122 It says Jesse

Speaker 2 turning.

Speaker 72 It says Jesse Dvorak, November 27th.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but she's not turning 27. Did I say that?

Speaker 88 Yeah.

Speaker 73 Well, I'm sorry.

Speaker 198 She's 55.

Speaker 2 She's not

Speaker 2 55.

Speaker 60 How old is Jesse?

Speaker 2 I don't know if she wants me to say something.

Speaker 214 Happy birthday, Jesse Dvorak, celebrating today.

Speaker 212 Barbara Kemp, happy birthday to her mom, 100 years old tomorrow.

Speaker 211 Alan Huntcraft turns 50 on the 29th.

Speaker 212 Dame Patricia, happy birthday to her daughter, Emily Mitchell.

Speaker 214 She celebrates on the 29th.

Speaker 212 And just in under the wire, Joss Palmer celebrating tomorrow. And Talia Dupree turns 42 tomorrow as well.
Happy birthday from everybody here at the best podcast in the universe.

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Speaker 131 We got a dame, and we have a knight, and I have my blade.

Speaker 74 And where's your sword?

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Speaker 198 You can use that to carve the turkey.

Speaker 5 Janine and Alexander, hop up here on the stage.

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Speaker 9 We've got pepperoni rolls and pale ales here, Redheads and Rise, Rubenes, Women, and Rose, along with the Hookers and Blow, Ren Boys, and Chardonnay, of course.

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Speaker 8 Well, we do have that one meetup that took place today.

Speaker 136 I'm sure it's over, the huffing and puffing for stuffin'.

Speaker 55 So this was a turkey trot, two-mile walk.

Speaker 32 And I hope they're done by now.

Speaker 91 They start at 11 in the morning in Spokane.

Speaker 68 Let us know how that went, send us in a meter purport.

Speaker 33 On Saturday, the Wageninger Foodhoop Volkfest.

Speaker 32 You'll owe nothing and love this Bitterball meetup in the Netherlands at Wageningen University in Gelderland.

Speaker 72 And that will be hosted by soon to be Sir Jap of the Frankenfoods Valley and Sir Doris of the Wild Boar Mountains and Sir Baron Chuskadafer.

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Speaker 33 How is it possible so many people in California are listening to this show?

Speaker 24 When you have those meetups, send the report to us, include your server.

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Sometimes you want to go hang out with all the nights and days.

Speaker 211 You to be where you won't be. Triggered on hell lame.

Speaker 211 You to be where everybody feels the same.

Speaker 211 It's like a party.

Speaker 121 So

Speaker 25 before we get to John's tip of the day, which of course is a great way to end any show, it will not be the knives tip today.

Speaker 132 I'm reliably informed, but that is coming.

Speaker 202 It may be a Thanksgiving tip.

Speaker 56 We always like to...

Speaker 150 It's not.

Speaker 57 Not really.

Speaker 55 We always like to

Speaker 59 do a little test here of what we will end the show with. I'm not sure.

Speaker 2 Well, before you do that, I have to correct an error

Speaker 2 so I don't get letters or notes, and it should have been done by the chat room. ES is the top-level domain for Spain, so our Norwegian knight as a Spanish ISP.

Speaker 2 EE is for Estonia.

Speaker 129 Oh, okay.

Speaker 72 Now, the trolls are doing nothing today.

Speaker 2 No, they're not helping.

Speaker 11 No, they could.

Speaker 2 We try to make these corrections during the show so we don't get notes from people.

Speaker 2 You guys don't know what you're talking about.

Speaker 33 All right, here's my end of show ISO candidates.

Speaker 78 Thank you for that.

Speaker 79 Oh, my God.

Speaker 169 Yeah, or this this one flu season is back open woohoo

Speaker 19 and the final i went to the well this is so

Speaker 2 good

Speaker 2 top that actually i do like that one a bit i do have two both of them are both of mine are better oh

Speaker 71 um

Speaker 2 so what are they called i don't have them in front of me stick you haven't and dad gum Yeah, dad gum to play dad gum.

Speaker 16 Dad gummit. They hit it out of the park again.

Speaker 132 I know that guy from somewhere. I'm not sure.

Speaker 2 He's right to the point.

Speaker 174 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Stick is sticking. And then this one is probably too long, but I like it.

Speaker 205 The show could not be any better if it was put on a stick and deep fat fried.

Speaker 32 No, no.

Speaker 19 You're doing too much.

Speaker 32 You got to. No.

Speaker 50 I think it's between...

Speaker 16 Dad Gummit, they hit it out of the park again.

Speaker 121 And this one. This is so good.

Speaker 2 Well, since I'm winning all the time,

Speaker 2 why don't you use the Alex Jones one?

Speaker 12 Okay, we'll do that.

Speaker 115 And now, before we go, it is time for John's tip of the day.

Speaker 161 Great advice for you and me.

Speaker 71 Just a tip with JCD

Speaker 4 and sometimes at all.

Speaker 2 I'm going back to the well, and I realize I never pushed this one hot sauce. Which would be good on turkey, I will say.

Speaker 2 And I use it all the time.

Speaker 2 like replace. I have a long-standing relationship with different hot sauces.

Speaker 2 I have this, you know, I always think one of the greatest sauces ever made is Tabasco sauce, the brand, and the way they make it. It's made with these special peppers.
And then we've had Melinda's.

Speaker 2 I promoted that on the show before. And I always like crystal, too, which is a very nice sauce.
But I've replaced the crystal. with actually this incredibly mild hot sauce.
It's really mild.

Speaker 2 And it's called Frank's Red Hot.

Speaker 18 Yeah, Frank's Red Hot.

Speaker 2 Frank's Red Hot is a sauce that's been around forever.

Speaker 2 I only discovered it about a decade ago, and I feel kind of bad about it because I always looked at it as some sort of a cheap, sleazy, like useless hot sauce.

Speaker 2 Maybe it's because I'm getting older and my palate

Speaker 2 likes stuff like this.

Speaker 2 I think it only has 450 Scoville's. It's not that hot.

Speaker 2 And by the way, Frank's is the base for buffalo chicken wing sauce, or what you toss the buffalo chicken wings in.

Speaker 2 And for all practical purposes, buffalo chicken wing sauce is nothing more than half Frank's hot sauce, or red hot, they call it Frank's hot sauce and butter. Half butter, half this sauce.

Speaker 2 You've got the chicken wing sauce. You can put some Worcester Sugar in there if you want to.
But that's essentially it. This stuff,

Speaker 2 you can just douse things with it. It's almost

Speaker 2 could be a soup. You just put it on everything.
And I think it's got one of of the best flavor profiles of any just rando condiment. It's delicious, and it would be good on turkey.

Speaker 33 You could even put it on your corn flakes.

Speaker 11 No, I'm just the I don't know about that.

Speaker 2 That's a good, this is a funny idea.

Speaker 11 There it is, everybody. Yeah, I'm sorry.
Terrific.

Speaker 2 Oh, I'm sorry, it's a terrific product. There it is.

Speaker 25 Of course, it's a terrific product because it is one of John's tips of the day.

Speaker 4 Create a bass for you and me, just a tip

Speaker 72 Well, I hope everybody enjoyed

Speaker 2 the shop today.

Speaker 61 We are doing real work, unlike MS Now, who for the past hour and a half have had

Speaker 14 Nicole Wallace

Speaker 133 with headphones on sitting there because you know, she thinks, oh, yeah, we got to have other podcasters on my podcast.

Speaker 14 She's doing a podcast on MS Now with the whole crew from the Midas Touch podcast.

Speaker 2 Oh my god.

Speaker 38 Yeah, that's the level you get.

Speaker 98 But not here. Not on the No Agenda Show.

Speaker 68 No, no, no, no.

Speaker 32 In fact, we'll even end it with some end-of-show mixes.

Speaker 175 We've got

Speaker 8 MVP checking in twice, and Danny Luce is back.

Speaker 91 MVP sandwiching in Danny Luce.

Speaker 124 And we will return on Sunday for more excitement here on the No Agenda Show.

Speaker 98 Please join us, and I am coming to you today from the heart of the Texas Hill Country in Fredericksburg, Texas.

Speaker 84 In the morning, everybody, I'm Adam Curry.

Speaker 2 And from Northern Silicon Valley, where we wish everybody a happy Thanksgiving. Have a good meal tonight.
I'm John C. DeVorak.

Speaker 98 Happy Thanksgiving, everybody.

Speaker 87 Thank you for being a producer of the best podcast in the universe.

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Speaker 9 We've got Planet Raids, the 200th episode next on the stream.

Speaker 209 Until Sunday, adios, Mofos.

Speaker 11 Hoo-ee-hoo-eye.

Speaker 95 and such.

Speaker 11 Good evening, everyone. Welcome to the show.

Speaker 11 Yeah,

Speaker 11 let's deconstruct some news.

Speaker 4 Boomer and boomer, adjacent, two guys on the air.

Speaker 4 One in the valley, one way down there.

Speaker 4 Menlo, the buzzkill says, Don't trust your head.

Speaker 4 That's what he said.

Speaker 4 Then you got Caster, the man they call crackpot. A transplant Texan fired up, giving all that he's got.

Speaker 4 Eighteen long years, a tradition so strong. They dissect the M5M and show where it's wrong.

Speaker 4 It's no agenda, every Thursday and Sunday.

Speaker 4 Three whole hours to brighten your mundane day. From the font, Father Caster to writer Menlo's latest word.

Speaker 4 They deconstruct the news, the real truth is heard. They might not agree, but they're a cat a pair.

Speaker 4 The buzzkill and the crackpot taking you there.

Speaker 4 Oh,

Speaker 4 oh, oh, edge and up. We'll put it in your feet.

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Speaker 1 That's a bunch of BS.

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Speaker 1 murdered more than 100 million lives.

Speaker 1 I believe in the right to you.

Speaker 1 Unfortunately, my family does not agree.

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