BONUS: Drop Us A Line - June 2023

Hi everyone, well, what is this strange thing that has appeared on your no such thing as a fish feed?

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Hi!

Hello, Andy.

Hello, Andy.

Hi, guys.

And hello to you, the listener and member of Club Fish.

Welcome to Drop Us a Line.

Your occasional...

I was going to say monthly, but sometimes it moves around a bit.

Your sporadic post bag episode, where we talk about the facts that you've sent into us, the challenges that you've sent, the factual errors that we might have to defend ourselves against accusations of having made.

That's the show.

Right.

So, let's get into the post bag.

Here's a good one to start off.

This is great.

It's from John.

Hi, John.

Hello, John.

John Jenkins.

Great name.

John writes, hi, elves.

Did the claim that James Garfield was fed through his anus

first episode query.

You know what, Andy?

Can I just say,

you're very keen for us to do these droppers of lines quite regularly because you're worried that we might start talking about episodes that people don't remember very well, like from maybe a month ago.

But it turns out you've got one from nine years ago.

This has got a special place in my.

I think because we talk about President Garfield so much.

Oh, no, the Anna episode as well.

We played that in

a section.

I believe we did that.

And that was about four months ago.

Okay.

John Wright's.

So basically, we had this claim that President Garfield, for the last three months of his life, ate everything through his anus.

Yeah.

Because he'd been shot and he was on his stomach and he couldn't.

Yeah.

Okay.

Did the claim that James Garfield was fed through his anus get officially debunked on no such thing as a fish?

Because Chat GPT has warned me quite passive-aggressively about believing or spreading false information.

And he's appended a screenshot of a chat he had with ChatGPT.

Right, so John says, James Garfield ate through his anus to ChatGPT, and ChatGPT writes back, that claim is not based on any factual information and is not supported by any incredible sources.

James Garfield was the 20th president of the United States and he did not eat through his anus.

He was assassinated in 1881 and blah, blah, blah.

And so he wrote, he wrote again, like, where did the claim come from then?

Yeah.

And ChatGPT writes back.

There is a persistent urban legend that James Garfield was fed through his rectum after being shot in the back.

It's completely unfounded.

It has no basis in fact and it's not supported by any credible sources.

So John was very concerned and wrote to us and

it absolutely is true.

So as in John has sussed it out or you've gone off to do extra research?

I've gone off and looked into it a bit more.

It hasn't been debunked.

It's absolutely true.

Okay, well this is what's happened here.

It's really clear.

A few episodes ago, you came up with a chat GPT version of No Such Things a Fish, and it really, really sucked.

And probably ChatGPT in his his newfound sentience has heard that and thought you know what i'm gonna bring these guys down a peg or two and so he's decided to do this oh yeah

crumble it crumble it from app one it's like taking a jenga block out from the bottom or all three topple the whole thing do you want to hear a jenga fact yeah um in the game of jenga the official original rules of jenga no two jenga blocks are exactly identical they all have to be slightly different you're kidding uh-uh what okay that's mind-blowing So, the reason being that when you stack them up, if they were all identical,

then they would stack perfectly.

And, you know, it would be a boring game because you wouldn't be able to push any of them out.

So, this is the original or still?

I think it's still, but it was definitely the original.

And so, they have very, very slight flaws in them, which means that they're not quite standing on top of each other, which means that the friction doesn't hold them in place.

Every block is unique.

It's nice, isn't it?

You know, it's nice.

Is it someone just standing by the machine doing the wood block cutting, just nudging it every time

um anyway so just to to um go back to the garfield thing i found this amazing article on medium.com all about the doctor do you remember he was called his first

dr dr willard bliss exactly and um it has incredibly detailed information about the rectal feeding which i don't think we ever covered in the first episode he wrote a pamphlet dr bliss a year after garfield died which is called feeding per rectum as illustrated in the case of the late president garfield and others wow and it endorsed endorsed the method, and it had notes on how it had been used, and it had all these detailed notes about what he'd been fed.

I gave Anna for her birthday a

leaflet from Dr.

Willard Bliss.

So they handed some out, like when Garfield died, they handed out loads of leaflets to the crowd saying that the president is dead.

And they're still extant.

You can still buy them.

And I bought Anna one for her birthday once.

Nice.

That's amazing.

Well, if you want to, for the next birthday, you can buy a copy of this pamphlet.

Oh, we've just missed it.

Yeah.

Oh, well.

It's a bit odd though, because it's suggesting it, but the patient dies.

So it's the method, I guess he's saying, is what works here.

He's saying the method is good, and he has all these notes about what was fed.

I don't think we covered the fact that fresh cow's blood was issued as a food, like a kind of very irony smoothie.

No, we didn't.

Squirrel soup, we did.

Yeah,

eggs

that were causing annoying flatus.

Yes.

Wasn't they flaming something?

Flaming sambuka.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I'm very badly wrong.

On this subject subject of ChatGPT and other

bots,

we did a fact about, I can't remember, I don't think it was explicitly about Alexa, but it was kind of about Alexa the other day.

And I found out that you can go onto askale.com or something like that, and you can put in your own answers to questions.

Okay.

So it helps Alexa to work because it gives you all the answers.

You know, you never know what people are going to ask.

It's not a chat bot, so it needs to be fed the questions and fed the answers

and I fed the answer to is there a such thing as a fish because until that point if you said is there such thing as a fish it said yes a fish is an animal which has fins and a backbone and blah blah blah and so I fed in according to biologist Stephen Jay Gould there is no such thing as a fish because a hagfish is more closely related to a

human than a salmon or whatever it was.

I can't remember what I said.

Sorry, you've done this for anyone asking their Alexa.

so I did and I got an email back from Alexa saying this is now in the system but then I tried it the other day and it didn't work so if everyone listening to this can ask their Alexa check it out right now check it out and see if it's in there because it says that it's in there but it doesn't seem to be doing it well well done for doing that bit of viral marketing we could probably do it right now I bet someone's look Alexa is there such thing as a fish

Someone's house that would have just

set it off just then.

That's great.

See, that's the kind of thing that's going to keep us ahead of the competition in podcast terms.

Absolutely.

alexa buy everything to play for by james harkin and anna tashinsky from amazon.com

sorry just while we're doing that absolutely get it get it in um it's pre-order we should add yeah yeah yeah but if you want a book now alexa buy the theory of everything else by dan shriver well yeah but i just feel like that's they're all a bit non-fiction people might want something a bit different alexa buy the sanctuary by andrew hunter murray

right can we move on move on from plugging our own personal into

can i say that

if it's about your book, you absolutely can't say it?

Well, no, it's about, no, no, it's about my audio book.

Oh, my God, no, come on.

No, ChatGPT,

the three of us had a chat with someone who was telling us about the dangers of what's going on with it right now.

It's getting really scary because it's kind of using global information.

It's using the hive mind to answer questions that maybe shouldn't be answered and getting a bit scary.

So there was a story the other day, I don't know if you guys saw this, where ChatGPT was given a challenge in order to do a task online.

And the only thing stepping in its way was the fact that it had a capture.

So it had one of those things where you have to identify where the

traffic lights are and so on.

Robots can't do it.

AI can't do it.

Impossible.

So that's the bit where ChatGPT stops.

Except, ChatGPT looked about how you get around something like that, hired a human from TaskRabbit or one of those sites who then did the capture for it and then it got in to complete the task.

So the robots

are coming.

You said ChatGPT too.

I said P.

No, you said B.

Sounded like a rubbish, British version of chat GPT, which answers everything with, oh, hello.

Or is it like GB News?

They reply with everything going, oh, yeah, but what about Starborne?

Like the pandemic, yeah.

Right, come on, let's go.

Let's do some, let's do some emails.

Let's do some emails.

Right, we got an email.

This is very exciting, from Duncan Pierce.

Oh, that is exciting.

Yeah.

Well, it is, because the subject line.

is spicy meat.

Oh, right.

Oh, you messaged us about this.

We said not to open it, but you went there.

Exciting.

Okay.

Spicy meat.

Was something we introduced on the last episode of the podcast.

And it means, like, what, inside knowledge about...

No, no, no.

That's just meat.

This is spicy meat about dangerous or forbidden topics.

Oh, okay.

You know what I mean?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Sure.

Or controversial stuff.

Let's see.

I mean, see how spicy you think this meat is.

Hello, he says.

He's...

picked up the lingo.

I have a slice of spicy meat I would like to share.

On the latest episode of Dropers a Line, so we're inceptioning ourselves here, you mentioned that people often think that James's face matches Andy's voice and vice versa.

I think that Andy's name matches Dan's face better and Dan's name matches Andy's face better.

I'm not really sure why.

I just think it's the vibes, you know?

Hugs and kisses, Duncan.

Isn't that spicy?

I don't think it's I'm afraid

like it's meat.

It's unquestionably meat, but I don't think it's spicy enough.

But it's not bad meat.

But I wouldn't send it back in a restaurant, which I do with anything above a lemon and herb.

I'm afraid.

I've gleefully enjoyed that lemon and herb email from you, so thank you.

Yeah, nice.

Right, here's another one.

It's from Gary Greenberg.

Lovely name.

Hi, quotes, no such thing as a fish podcasters.

We know who's being addressed.

I'm a little behind on my podcasts, so I just heard the one where you talked about people who can get goosebumps at will.

Oh, that wasn't too long ago.

I happen to be one of those people.

I now know just how rare it is.

To build on a couple of things said in the podcast,

one,

I have actually described this as a useless superpower, so that description was spot on, in my opinion.

Two, no, I can't make my nipples erect at will.

That's what we all wanted to know.

Because it's just like one giant goose bump.

Who follows up?

If you'd like, I can try to take a video of it.

Brackets, the goosebumps, not my nipples.

Oh, yeah, I'd be keen.

Unless there are nipples, I'm not interested, I'm afraid, Gary.

Fair enough.

What if you really zoomed in on the goose bump?

Yeah, that'll do.

Yeah.

If you were making a model railway,

you could use your goosebumps as tiny nipples for the characters.

Well, that is an interesting offer.

That's quite spicy.

I got sent a complaint, which

should go to you, really.

Oh, goosebumps.

Okay.

No, no, this is just, I got sent this on a DM a while ago, so I'm sorry it's taking so long to bring it to the table.

It's from, I think, someone called Ringo Brian.

I might have added Ringo.

So let's call it, because he signs off as B, so maybe it's Brian.

Okay.

All right.

Hello, Dan.

Long time listener, first time writer, huge fan of the show.

Can I express my dismay at the most recent episode with Lucy Porter, so it's a while ago,

in which you and Lucy go on to spoil one flew over the cuckoo's nest.

As you were talking, it sounded great, and I paused the episode and I went and bought the book.

Oh, no!

You can then imagine my horror when not 45 seconds later, you go on to spoil it.

Oh, it's all so everyone is likely to know the story, he puts in quotes.

But not only spoil it, but go on to explain the subtleties in the chief's actions in that it was a mercy killing.

Any other books you want to ruin?

Currently reading Remains of the Day.

You want to take a swipe?

I love a crack.

All my love.

B.

Just to let you know, mate, that at the end of Remains of the Day, Stevens, the butler, realizes his life has been a hollow sham.

And he sits on a bench.

Does he?

That's it.

Yeah.

But it doesn't matter because the journey to get there is an incredible book and you should read it anyway.

Do you think there is something in this of like a chat line perhaps where people want to hear spoilers and you employ someone who's read myriad books like you have Andy to just sit by your phone and someone just goes dring dring dring dring 39 steps.

Oh, it's a it's a it's a it's a memory system set by a guy.

Yeah, yeah, that's good.

I like it.

Yeah.

Oh, hello.

Oh, yes, they each think the other ones died.

It's a poison thing.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And then, funnily enough, they both die.

Brilliant.

Bye.

Is it for sadists?

Or is it for cramming GCSE students?

Or is it for sometimes you come up with the idea and you don't know what the market is?

The market just arrives.

Yeah.

If you build it, they will come.

Yeah.

It feels like a great is that a spoiler about Field of Dreams.

Field of Dreams?

Yeah.

Just wondering.

They do build it.

It came.

Oh, that's great.

Here's an email from Molly Blue Dawn.

The mention of gold beater's skin in episode 476 reminded me that in Japan, instead of cow intestines...

What is it?

They used to beat gold very, very thin by putting it in between layers of cow intestines.

Oh, yeah, that's right, yeah.

Exactly, yeah.

In Japan, instead of cow intestines, gold beaters used tanuki scrota.

Pardon, who is tanuki?

Tanuki is another name for a raccoon dog.

Oh, okay.

Yeah, yeah, funny.

But there's a big thing in Japan of tanuki with massive nutsacks.

And supposedly it's because the gold beaters were using the scrotums to wallop the gold leaf very, very, very thin.

And she sent a sauce, and it looks pretty reputable.

So there we go.

That's really good.

Yeah, nice.

Thank you very much, Molly.

I've got a couple more.

Can I just chuck one more in?

I saved these on my phone, and I realized I haven't read them.

This is from Tim Ryan in Canada.

Just finished episode 463 with your fact about the sluggard wakers in church.

You remember I had this fact where if you fell asleep in church, someone went around poking you to make sure you'd come

to and be awake for the service.

They went around poking you to make sure you'd come.

Yeah, exactly.

These people, says Tim, these people are alive and well and thriving in rural Ghana.

I went to two churches while there and both had women patrolling the side aisles with six-foot poles that

they would poke, not so gently, between people's shoulders if they nodded off.

Yeah.

That's really good.

Pretty cool.

That's good.

That's awesome.

Here's a query for more information from Michael.

Michael writes, sorry to hound you.

This is actually a clever joke with so many emails.

Brilliant.

I was just listening to the British Library episode with Sally Phillips and found myself wanting to know more about your hound, pooch, or mutt game.

It was glossed over in the episode.

There was a reason we glossed over.

I don't remember this, right?

I'm sure I'm the only listener.

I'm sure he says I'm sure I'm the only listener.

I think he must mean I'm sure I'm not the only listener.

Desperate to hear which doggy traits belong to which category.

So Andy has this game that he plays whenever he sees a canine where they are either a mutt, a pooch, or a

hound.

Yeah.

Okay.

And apparently, if you're Andy, you can automatically tell which is which.

Well, it's taken time, but I'm now very, very quick.

And the person who decides whether or not you're right is you.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

Normally you play it with someone else.

It's not really a one-player game.

It can be

at a pinch

in a tight spot.

I can't picture the difference between the three.

Think of a classic pooch.

You know, I'm thinking a shihi tzu.

I'm thinking something that's small and fluffy that's defenseless.

You know, there are some dogs which are clearly pooches.

And you can have very large pooches as well, but normally they're a bit smaller.

Hounds, you know what a hound is.

It's like it's a

Irish wolfhound or it's they're big, they've got long legs, they're rangy, you know, they're terrifying.

Then you've got a mutt, which is a bit of a catch-all.

Okay, let me

let me ask some questions due to you know what I see day to day.

What is Harry McClary from Donaldson's Dairy?

That's a children's book character, isn't it?

I think Harry McClary is a mutt.

He's a mutt.

He's a bit of everything.

Oh, no.

Hercules boss, as big as a horse.

My knowledge of the universe, I'm afraid, is not.

I mean, from if he's as big as a horse, he sounds like a hound.

Okay, yeah, he's pretty handy.

But it's on a dog-by-dog basis.

Can you have two dogs from the same breed,

one of which is a hound and one of which is a muttor?

I don't know if you could have two Daxons, one of which is a pooch.

I think they are quite poochy.

Oh, no, they're quite houndy, actually.

Well, Daxon.

Yeah, and they used to be hunting dogs, so yeah.

And you can have, like, it's star signs, you know, it's like it's a hound with a bit of pooch.

Okay, you know.

Anyway, it's a really fun game.

Oh, yeah, it sounds great.

No, well, that's.

No, I'm trying to get my head around it because I'm thinking, like, a pit bull.

What's a pit bull?

What's a sausage dog?

What, like, these dogs.

What's a pitbull?

It's a hound.

what's a sausage dog then well I think it's a bit of a I think that's also a hound because they can be quite vicious and you know okay so hound is the trait of viciousness there's also just dog which is a labrador which is a classic dog that's dog yeah labradors and retrievers are both just dogs okay right right well great game i think it's a great maybe keep it to one player

okay let's move on let's move on to an email from anonymous teacher jenny okay not very anonymous half anonymous crucially

um Hello, no such thing as a fish team.

I'm a high school history teacher from Pennsylvania.

I have checked with Jenny what I'm allowed to say about her, and already I feel like it's quite narrowed.

Every Friday morning, I listen to your podcast during my drive to school, and as I get to my classroom.

So she lives not within walking distance of her school in Pennsylvania.

Oh, dear.

Yeah, and I get to my classroom ready for the day.

I suppose I've brought it up enough with my first class that some of my students have taken to asking, so what facts did you learn this morning?

Ms.

surname?

And I have redacted that.

I am very excited that today I will get to tell them about tiny bits of coal.

Oh, no.

Because we covered what model railways use for coal, which is small lumps of coal.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Hence my joke earlier about nipples.

Yeah, exactly.

Yeah, yeah.

What I won't tell them, Jenny continues, is that I was laughing so hard at how ridiculous that whole bit was, I nearly ran one of them, my pupils, over

while pulling into the parking lot.

Fortunately, everyone was fine, and it was only me who even seemed to notice.

But still,

she says, imagine if I would have had to explain to the police about just how funny it was that model train builders use tiny pieces of coal to represent coal on their bottles, and that's why I was momentarily and justifiably incapacitated.

Feels like she'd get off, don't you think?

I think so.

I think no jury would convict.

Yeah.

So thank you, Jenny.

We have had a few of those.

I was thinking that.

We were once sent a photo of

an actual car crash.

Someone went off the side of the road because they were laughing so hard, apparently.

Yeah, she sent us photos.

It was like a quite mangled car.

This was in our first year, I think.

Oh, well, then we were very funny.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I was tired.

Burnt out.

The Garfield Anus year.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Oh, well.

Thanks for writing in, Jenny.

Thank you.

And just while we're on Colgate, there's another one from Jules.

Colgate?

Sorry.

Cole.

Gate.

Gate.

Yeah.

Jules writes in saying, I suspect others may have mentioned this.

You're wrong, Jules.

You're wrong, wrong, wrong.

A lot of people write in saying, I think a lot of other people must have mentioned this.

Almost invariably, they're the only person who's noticed it.

Yeah.

What's going on there?

Yeah, yeah.

Anyway.

Spam filters.

In episode 479, Andy got very excited in the lead-up to a modern railway fact.

I was on the edge of my seat, brackets metaphorically, as I was walking.

Because I knew a related MOSFAT.

Could it be possible that I might have known something before hearing it on the podcast?

I bet it's not.

Alas, no.

The slight groans, very generous to call them slight, at coal being used to model coal were echoed by myself as I realised Andy had a swing and a miss

when he could have told everyone that model railway makers often use moss to recreate bushes and trees.

That's so funny.

Now, I'm afraid, Jules, I think I have mentioned that on an old episode of the podcast.

I'm not sure if it hasn't been on the podcast for sure.

Because I remember our producer of QI, Piers Fletcher, used to make fun of you all the time.

Apparently, you once mentioned that moss can be used on Model Railways, and almost every meeting, he used to say, Oh, Andy with his moss on his Model Railways.

Absolutely wrong.

It became quite a thing, didn't it, for about a year?

It did.

But that was also during the year when we were teasing him because it turns out he keeps all his old checkbook stubs, does he?

So it really became a bit of a back-and-forth war of attrition there.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That's amazing.

Look, if I look in our archive for the word boss, I'm going to get absolutely nowhere.

Jules, I'm afraid I've got no way of proving it if it hasn't been on the podcast, but I did know it.

I think, you know, sometimes when you bring a topic to the table with fish and we do our recordings and then we've got to move on because time's running fast.

I think, I wish I just had a bit more time to chat.

I sort of feel like Drop Us a Line is slightly turning into Andy's chance to just really get back into the meat of a subject that we said goodbye to.

I think it's more like he listens to the final edit and he's like, I can't believe he cut that out.

Well, the last time we talked about model trains, I actually don't think,

I don't think it was mentioned, the MOS thing.

So, actually, Jules, that's a perfectly reasonable email to send, even if fundamentally baseless.

I used to have it when I was young, and I did have model, was making models.

Well, that's the thing about bullying in the workplace.

It's often based on a nub of truth.

Yeah.

And that's why it's often fine.

Not defendable in court.

But she was saying that she had, she was like, oh, I can't.

Yeah, Jules.

I don't know, Jules.

Oh, could be Jules.

Yeah, either.

Jules Holland.

Yeah.

Jules Holland.

It could be Jules Holland.

A famous Model Railway.

Yeah.

Aficionado, Jules Holland.

Oh, well, there we go.

This is exciting.

Did you know that, Dan?

Is that one of the effects I got cut?

Jules Holland.

Yeah, well,

I think I might have pre-cut it and just not said it on the right.

Yeah, but Jules Holland has a huge model railway.

Does he?

No, I didn't know that.

Jules's annual Houstonani is actually built inside his model railway track

said it's very impressive sorry what were you gonna say jules was jules saying that they were astonished that they knew something about moss without having learnt it on our show because if that's the case then yes that's a fact before before me and

okay all right no no then that's fine yeah yeah um so anyway i think it still counts as a swing in the mess yeah and i i take that i'll take that on the chin I actually, when you started saying that fact about the coal, I genuinely thought you were going to say about Moss.

Because you remember, you said, I've got a fact about model railways, and Dan realised what you were going to say because you told us there was this boring fact.

And I knew it was going to be a boring fact, and I was sure it was going to be the Moss.

The Moss thing, yeah, yeah.

I really threw you for a loop there.

Yeah.

All right, here's one more.

This is a really nice one.

This is from Lily.

Hello, Andy, Andrew, James, and Anna.

Sorry, Dan.

Say that again.

Hello, Andy, Andrew, James, and Anna.

Two hellos for you.

Yes,

that's the point.

That is why I read that.

I want to hear a fact about Andy's.

Oh, yeah, go on.

For the last podcast, which was about puffins,

which will have gone out by the time this goes out, I found in the OED that there was an old English word for a puffin, which was a cock Andy.

A cock Andy.

Cock Andy.

Cock Andy.

Has another new nickname?

Cock Andy is quite.

Yeah, it's cute.

Puffins are cute.

It's cute.

Anyway, sorry.

No, no, no.

Anyway, Lily writes hello to me twice, so the rest of you can get stuffed.

I'm a huge fan of yours.

All four of us.

All four of us.

I found out strong Victorian ladies used to be a thing and can't recall an episode in which you discussed them.

Apologies if you have.

I think we might have fleetingly mentioned them.

I think it was because we did them on the TV show.

We never really got fully into them and that thing.

Anyway, she just mentions a fact, which I love,

which is very related to fish as well, which is great.

Get this in 1901 Vulcana the strong woman freed a wagon stuck in Maiden Lane Covent Garden

by lifting it in front of astonished witnesses.

Wow.

She links to an article all about the Victorian strong women.

That's great.

We actually mentioned Sandwina, I think, didn't we?

We did briefly.

Yeah, yeah.

But for reference, our office used to be on Maiden Lane.

And do you know the other weird thing?

They pedestrianised it during COVID.

That's not not the weird thing.

Shut up.

Yeah.

Shut up.

But they pedestrianised it by planting these huge wagons across the beginning and end of the lane.

So a modern-day Volcano would be able to do it.

It's like a sword in the stone, but it's the wagon in the cobbled street.

That's very cool.

Yeah, exactly.

Oh, well, thank you, Lily.

This is Dan, by the way.

I'm on the show.

Brilliant.

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