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Speaker 9 On today's part of my take, we have

Speaker 14 a lot.

Speaker 15 We have Mount Rushmore season.

Speaker 16 It is back.

Speaker 19 We have the Mount Rushmore of words that start with M.

Speaker 1 gets a little contentious, which is good.

Speaker 15 We have Ryan Rosillo on to talk NBA draft.

Speaker 22 A little cleanup from the NBA finals.

Speaker 15 We have Oklahoma City Thunder NBA champion Isaiah Hartenstein, and we are going to do FAQs and also talk about Hank Celtics

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Speaker 9 Today is Wednesday, June 25th.

Speaker 17 And boys, it's Mount Rushmore season.

Speaker 28 Let's go.

Speaker 4 It's Mount Rushmore season.

Speaker 15 Did you guys see our good friend, friend of the program, Alex Caruso, at the Oklahoma City Thunder Championship Parade with a Mount Rushmore shirt on, all four of the heads being Alex Crusoe.

Speaker 28 That's old school. That's awesome.
I like that a lot. Alex Crusoe for president.
Alex Crusoe for president.

Speaker 25 So, yeah, the Thunder had their parade today.

Speaker 26 It was funny watching

Speaker 15 Chet Holmes get really drunk.

Speaker 28 How many beers do you think it takes Chet to get drunk? I think it's like, I think he's a two can.

Speaker 32 Yeah, I was going to say three, maybe four.

Speaker 28 I think two beers and a cigarette, and he was puking.

Speaker 37 He was very drunk.

Speaker 10 Mitchell Loeb Ottras.

Speaker 38 Yeah, they were.

Speaker 10 And the press conference was like, I got my Mitchell Loe Boltros.

Speaker 15 It's also just weird seeing a Gonzaga player win.

Speaker 28 It is. That's kind of strange.
Never been to a Final Four, never won an NBA championship.

Speaker 44 Yeah.

Speaker 16 Jalen Williams, I think, said that he had his first drink ever.

Speaker 26 That's got to be the best.

Speaker 19 I think we've done

Speaker 15 best beers on Mount Rushmore before, but having your first beer ever be after winning an NBA title has to fucking rule.

Speaker 28 That's got to be kind of cool, but then the hangover that he got, he seemed like he was never going to drink again.

Speaker 15 Yeah, but do you remember like drinking your first beer and just being annihilated after one beer?

Speaker 47 No, but that's got to be so much fun.

Speaker 28 What I'm saying for him is he should not say he's never going to drink again.

Speaker 48 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 28 Because you should drink just only when you win an NBA championship. Yeah.
Yeah. Like I'll see you next year, beer.

Speaker 1 He said, he said, I drank a little bit, took a couple shots, champagne.

Speaker 3 I had a beer.

Speaker 15 It was all disgusting. I'm going to stick to Shirley Temple.

Speaker 28 He was ripping shots of champagne?

Speaker 20 Yeah, I guess so.

Speaker 49 Damn.

Speaker 20 It's pretty crazy. Also, the thunder,

Speaker 32 everyone gets a day.

Speaker 20 I don't know if you guys saw this, but the mayor of Oklahoma City,

Speaker 15 he gave every single person on the team a day. So I don't know if you want to get your calendar out, but Alex Caruso and Lou Dort are back-to-back July 24th and July 25th.

Speaker 46 Lou Dort Day, Alex Caruso Day. That's very cool.

Speaker 52 It's pretty crazy that everyone gets a day, though.

Speaker 26 Even Clay Bennett got a day.

Speaker 28 Well, Clay Bennett a day, listen, respect.

Speaker 2 I would say every day is his day.

Speaker 28 Respect to Clay Bennett. Yeah.

Speaker 28 What hasn't he accomplished so far in life? A lot of respect. Yeah, no, the parade was great.
I like to see a city that really gets behind a team like that.

Speaker 30 Yeah.

Speaker 10 We can celebrate Alex Caruso Day and the officers have everyone shave their heads, trip over the gauntlet, like see do their best version of what he did. Yeah.

Speaker 15 Win a ring that doesn't count.

Speaker 28 He did say, like, I finally have a real one.

Speaker 54 Yeah, he was joking.

Speaker 28 I choose to, but at the core of every joke,

Speaker 28 therein lies a serious trouble.

Speaker 3 I'd like to think that maybe he was thinking of us in that moment.

Speaker 14 Yeah.

Speaker 56 Real one.

Speaker 28 Like Alex Caruso is now an NBA champion. Yeah, he is.

Speaker 24 He's a one-time NBA champion.

Speaker 32 But yeah, it was cool seeing we did also get the

Speaker 15 classic online argument of, is your parade worthy enough?

Speaker 17 Are there enough people at the aerial shot of your parade?

Speaker 52 Florida actually showed up pretty well for the Panthers, but Oklahoma City,

Speaker 15 there were some people who were laughing at them.

Speaker 52 I love that because it basically is admitting you're a loser and you're going to basically say all I have left is be like, you don't have enough people at your place.

Speaker 28 Well, you can also say, like, we have real jobs that we have to go to during the week. True.

Speaker 28 These are oil pumping hours in the middle of the day.

Speaker 28 Now, when it comes to Oklahoma City, I want to give it a, we've given shout-outs to obviously Thundor, worthy of all the praise, Thunder Prince's Brickman, wasn't able to come on part of my take.

Speaker 28 He's a rocket scientist, so he's fielding a rocket science call.

Speaker 28 But then there's also Delbert Jenkins, Oklahoma City Super fan. And shout out Bunky Perkins, who always puts this on the timeline.

Speaker 28 But Delbert Jenkins is the funniest NBA fan that I've ever seen with his flat top hanging on for dear life. It's like a Lego falling off the back of his head.
Yep. And this guy.
His name's Delbert.

Speaker 28 His name is Delbert. Delbert Jenkins.
And you have to say it like a Delbert. And he is the man, and he is a world champion right now.

Speaker 28 So I hope Delbert, wherever you are, I hope you're having a good time celebrating.

Speaker 20 I also have good news for you, boys.

Speaker 15 I know that game seven was a bummer because Tyrese Halliburton got hurt and it kind of robbed of us

Speaker 26 of what we thought was going to be an all-time finish.

Speaker 26 Do you guys want to guess how many people watched?

Speaker 35 Million people watched? How many millions of people watched?

Speaker 10 3.8.

Speaker 28 I'm going to guess because earlier it was 2.8 billion, right?

Speaker 59 Game one.

Speaker 28 I think this one took a back seat a little bit. I'm going to go 3 million.

Speaker 48 Okay.

Speaker 15 16.35 million watched game seven.

Speaker 9 Peaked at 19.28 million.

Speaker 15 So, congrats to us for watching something that other people watched.

Speaker 28 I guess we know ball. Feels good.

Speaker 11 Feels good.

Speaker 28 I guess we know ball.

Speaker 15 It was, I believe, the highest NBA Finals game since Warriors Raptors in 2019, but it also was down 9.3%

Speaker 14 from like last year.

Speaker 28 The bottom line, nobody knows how to measure ratings anymore. When it comes to the internet, when it comes to phones, we're all just kind of guessing.

Speaker 55 Yeah, 5 billion views is what they're saying across all uh meet social media platforms five billion views five billion every almost everyone in the world watches up 215 versus last year it's pretty good

Speaker 4 did they just tweet more yeah like that you probably it could do that like if they're just like hey let's just flood the zone yeah let's just flood let's just get everything out there that's a good possibility uh the real nba news though is hank your celtics the championship team that you're on a duckboat with yeah

Speaker 1 pretty much almost a year to like the day.

Speaker 10 Year to the day.

Speaker 10 Two days ago.

Speaker 50 Two days ago is no more. Chris Stopps gone.

Speaker 57 Drew Holiday gone.

Speaker 19 Are they done?

Speaker 50 And also, how do you feel?

Speaker 10 Something aren't done. People are saying Brad Stevens fleeced the Trailblazers

Speaker 1 for Anthony Simmons.

Speaker 10 I really, I'm not going to say that that's true because I know

Speaker 10 nothing, nothing.

Speaker 10 I know that people online were telling me that he's better than Drew Holiday currently. I don't necessarily believe that.
He is younger, so

Speaker 10 I can buy in on that. He's cheaper, and we got a ton of cap space because we're going to be paying Drew Holiday for the next four years.

Speaker 45 Trailblazers are going to be

Speaker 10 Drew Holiday $40 million when he's 37. So that's good.
It's sad.

Speaker 10 It's just sad. A year ago to the day I was on the duck boat, and this team felt like a core team that for the next three to four years, we're going to be in the hunt.

Speaker 10 We're going to be going for the championship again, repeat. Even going into the playoffs, it was like, we're going to repeat.
And so it did flip quickly where it's like, oh, shit, Tatum's hurt.

Speaker 10 We kind of knew we were going to have to get rid of Drew Holiday or Porzingis, but after the injury, it was like, we're going to get rid of both of them. We're going to rebuild.

Speaker 10 And this is, you know, part of those process. George Yang, I'm happy about that.

Speaker 10 I'm happy about that.

Speaker 28 So let me ask you this, Hank. Are they done? Are they done trading?

Speaker 38 Yeah.

Speaker 39 Probably not.

Speaker 28 I think Brad Stevens is

Speaker 10 the other, the other, I just, I really hope we keep Derek White.

Speaker 43 I really hope we keep Derek White.

Speaker 10 He's the other person that gets thrown around a lot. I mean, even Jalen Brown, but I'm going to say no.
I'm probably going to say no. And that scares me.

Speaker 7 But yeah, it should. I feel like we're not done.

Speaker 28 Did you learn any lessons?

Speaker 34 Good question. Have you learned a lesson?

Speaker 28 Have you learned any lessons from how you felt last year? Yeah, have you learned any lessons to where you're at right now?

Speaker 58 No,

Speaker 13 this is this is

Speaker 10 I learned my lesson. It's this is why you enjoy every last second.
If you ever get a chance to be in that spot, you live it up and you do it up because it might never happen again. Yeah.

Speaker 49 So you did one lesson.

Speaker 63 Yeah.

Speaker 10 I'm happy I did what I did.

Speaker 37 Can you grade each trade?

Speaker 10 The Drew Holiday trade, I'll give a B plus.

Speaker 28 Okay. Tell the Drew.

Speaker 10 And I mean, George Yang is, you know, Boston guy, local guy, recurring guest, AWL.

Speaker 43 Minivan. Great dude.

Speaker 10 Great dude.

Speaker 10 So I'm going to give that one an A.

Speaker 49 Oh, okay. So you guys did well.

Speaker 28 So you hate Perzingus.

Speaker 10 No, but

Speaker 43 I like George a lot.

Speaker 45 The important part of all of this is,

Speaker 20 and you said it at the start of the day.

Speaker 10 Jeff Goodman said he loves George Yang to Boston, elite locker room guy, high IQ. We'll give the Sellers a shooter off the bench.
Just got to keep him out of the north end.

Speaker 28 And Jeff Goodman knows hoops.

Speaker 26 Yeah.

Speaker 17 The important part of all of this, though, was you buried the lead.

Speaker 32 You did happen to see at least a couple tweets saying you guys fleeced the Blazers.

Speaker 39 Yeah.

Speaker 8 Then you're good.

Speaker 43 That's it. I saw a lot of tweets.
Oh, then you're good. Everyone was like,

Speaker 10 How did the Blazers let this happen?

Speaker 36 As long as the first couple of replies.

Speaker 10 My remote show was like, oh my god, fuck. And then I went online and everyone was like, this is the best trade possible for the Celdavas.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 43 I was like, yeah, obviously.

Speaker 15 All you need for a trade is for one of the top three replies to Shams or Schefter to be fleeced.

Speaker 28 Dude, fleece is my favorite reaction to any trade ever in sports because you can just say fleeced about it and you're going to be right because you're not saying which team got fleeced.

Speaker 28 You say, Man, fleecing. My favorite.
And then, like, two years from now, I'll be like, Look, I was right about the fleecing.

Speaker 47 My favorite is seeing someone be like, fleeced, and then under that, we'll be like, by who, and then there'll be like immediate replies by like

Speaker 19 Portland fleece, the Celtics, the Celtics fleece, Portland.

Speaker 1 It's just everyone has different, but fleece.

Speaker 28 Then you let them fight it out. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 45 As long as the fleecing occurred.

Speaker 64 Yeah, it's no,

Speaker 28 somebody got fleeced. Yeah.
If you're not the one doing the fleecing, you're the one getting fleeced. That's facts.

Speaker 31 PFT, you got CJ McCollum.

Speaker 28 We got CJ McCollum. I'm pumped about that.
Huge. The Wizards turning things around.
What? That's sad for CJ.

Speaker 8 What?

Speaker 66 Playing on the Wizards? Yeah.

Speaker 28 You're trading away all your best friends, Hank. Set this one out.

Speaker 32 I mean, you did say when we're about to have the interview with Russil, you're like, when guys go and play on the Wizards, they lose their love to play basketball.

Speaker 49 Well, that's a fact in the past.

Speaker 28 That could never happen with CJ.

Speaker 25 That's happening in one hour from now on this show.

Speaker 28 When he puts the uniform on for the official team picture, he's just going to be like, man, I'm just here to cash a check.

Speaker 2 That was like Chris Middleton picking up his option from the Wizards for $33 million.

Speaker 69 It's like, yeah, no shit.

Speaker 28 Yeah, of course he would.

Speaker 3 Pat Conaton picked up his from the Bucks, and it was like, no, duh.

Speaker 28 Yeah, so, I mean, I'm excited that I have a player on the Wizards that I really enjoy as a human being that I get to root for. He does run our fantasy league.

Speaker 28 So I hope Jerry O'Connell doesn't burn that bridge and make CJ hate me. But yeah, I like CJ a lot.
I'm excited to watch him as a wizard. I think there's a good chance that we might get Ace Bailey.

Speaker 28 So, listen, I'm kind of slowly realizing that maybe the Wizards might not be complete dog shit over the course of the next two years.

Speaker 70 There you go.

Speaker 32 Yeah, I mean, listen, the Steal of the Draft will be

Speaker 46 the Mavericks have already won the draft, which we're doing our draft preview with Rosillo in a minute, but I don't know if you guys knew this.

Speaker 15 Cooper Flag is like LeBron James and Kevin Garnett having a baby.

Speaker 28 That's who said that? Happy Pride.

Speaker 49 Who said that?

Speaker 2 You should both get get this.

Speaker 34 Skip. No.
Colin Coward. No.

Speaker 47 ESPN. You should both get it.

Speaker 43 Scott Van Pelt.

Speaker 39 Come on.

Speaker 28 Oh, it's Stanford Steve.

Speaker 45 No, it's Kendrick Perkins, obviously.

Speaker 13 Okay.

Speaker 28 Carry the hell on.

Speaker 47 LeBron James and Kevin Garnett having a baby.

Speaker 28 I'm shocked. Skit Cooper flag.

Speaker 28 If you had said, like, having a damn baby, I would have been like, yeah, that's Perk.

Speaker 40 Yeah.

Speaker 55 Not carry the hell on.

Speaker 3 The only other thing I had was

Speaker 15 I just love that Kevin Durant just keeps owning Emmanuel Acho, which is good.

Speaker 20 Because Emmanuel Acho put out his legacy formula, which bro thought he did something.

Speaker 28 The legacy formula.

Speaker 37 Yeah, you didn't see the legacy formula?

Speaker 28 No, but I got to prepare myself for this. This is like, I feel like I'm Matt Damon walking through the halls of MIT, and I'm stumbling across a blackboard.
Yes.

Speaker 2 So just so we're clear, there's a disclaimer here.

Speaker 19 For clarity, legacy and talent are not the same.

Speaker 35 Okay. All right.

Speaker 26 Just want to get you guys ready for that going in.

Speaker 35 All right.

Speaker 18 The legacy formula is championship, championships one divided by teams played for equals teams like team legacy.

Speaker 13 That's legacy. That's what they're legacy.
Yes. That's it.

Speaker 25 So Kobe Bryant has a legacy of five.

Speaker 71 Tim, he played five.

Speaker 26 He won five championships for one team.

Speaker 22 Tim Duncan also has a legacy of five.

Speaker 45 Then you go down the list.

Speaker 3 Steph has a legacy of four.

Speaker 39 Kind of like that.

Speaker 50 LeBron has a legacy of 1.3.

Speaker 43 I like this.

Speaker 22 Dirk has a legacy of one, and Kevin Durant has a whopping legacy of 0.4.

Speaker 1 Two championships, five teams.

Speaker 67 What if might have done something?

Speaker 28 What about

Speaker 45 you think he think bro did something?

Speaker 28 If you go to NFL, like what does that mean for Peyton Manning and Tom Brady's legacies?

Speaker 74 Yeah, they actually.

Speaker 36 Jordan did it.

Speaker 68 He ruined his legacy, go to the Wisconsin.

Speaker 3 He would have had a six.

Speaker 28 Yeah, they actually don't have the legacy that we thought they won stay.

Speaker 71 Yeah, got divided in half.

Speaker 64 That's a good formula. It's a good formula.

Speaker 10 No, Brady's legacy still stands up, though.

Speaker 28 I love the idea.

Speaker 10 Three and a half is still higher than everyone else.

Speaker 75 It's not higher than six,

Speaker 10 but it's still more than six.

Speaker 54 Mahomes can't get it. But Mannings goes cut in half.

Speaker 3 But if Mahomes wins one more and stays with the Chiefs, he now has a higher legacy.

Speaker 26 That's true. So that's it.

Speaker 2 I mean, that would...

Speaker 47 Joe Montana, oh, no, he played for the Chiefs.

Speaker 45 Yeah.

Speaker 28 Okay. I love the idea

Speaker 28 of Emmanuel Acho sitting down at a table in a white lab coat like he's Oppenheimer, like coming up with this formula.

Speaker 28 And he's like, no, no, it's all shit, crumpling up pieces, throwing it away, and coming out with a two-factor legacy authentication. Yeah.

Speaker 28 That's awesome. So I'm glad that's good for sports.

Speaker 17 Okay, but all right, so you like the Emmanuel Acho legacy formula.

Speaker 46 Can I interest you in a different formula?

Speaker 40 Yeah. Okay, here it is.

Speaker 20 This is the great Kevin Durant legacy formula. Okay, and this is how this formula is decided.

Speaker 46 This is from Kevin Durant.

Speaker 16 According to the great Kevin Durant's legacy formula that was created in the best labs at MIT, Emmanuel is the worst linebacker of all time.

Speaker 15 You sure you want to listen to this guy about greatness?

Speaker 40 That's what he came back with.

Speaker 77 I love it.

Speaker 28 That's good. Good for Kevin Durant.

Speaker 26 Kevin Durant's formula only rates one person, and it's Emmanuel Acho, and it's the worst.

Speaker 28 Yeah, that's good. Good for him.

Speaker 55 This is such a sign.

Speaker 15 We need football back. We have legacy formulas dropping.

Speaker 28 I'm very excited for football coming back. Do you see Florio's thing?

Speaker 65 Yeah, so.

Speaker 24 So I explain.

Speaker 28 All right, so last night Florio tweeted out, I expect some big news to be happening tomorrow. As Mike Studd will do.
As Mike Studd does.

Speaker 28 And I actually, I got a text from Mike last night being like, I'm glad that you saw this. And then I was like, Mike, what are we talking about? Like, is this Bengals related news?

Speaker 28 Is this extension-related news for some player? And he was like, nope, it's a niche issue that not many will care about, but it will be earth-shattering. And so I was like, okay, I can't.

Speaker 57 Basically, he said, this is the greatest news for me personally, Mike Florio.

Speaker 28 Yeah, like if Mike Florio had not been a part of this news happening,

Speaker 28 this would be Mike Florio's dream story to cover as a journalist. And then it came out this morning.

Speaker 28 He went on the podcast with Pablo Torre, and they got exclusive access to the league's collusion settlement that they had.

Speaker 28 And they proved that the league actually was colluding against players after the Deshaun Watson signing, where he got so much guaranteed money that now the other owners got together and they're like, we're not paying these guys guaranteed money like that anymore.

Speaker 28 Jimmy Haslam's a piece of shit.

Speaker 50 We all have to agree that

Speaker 28 we're not going to do that because that's going to fuck everything up. So apparently, at the center of this was Russell Wilson, Kyler Murray, and I believe there was one other quarterback.
Lamar?

Speaker 28 Yeah, and Lamar and Lamar Jackson. Yeah.
So

Speaker 26 I feel like Florio's all his theories, all roads always lead back to Lamar.

Speaker 28 Back to Lamar.

Speaker 59 And like his contracts.

Speaker 28 Yeah, it might. It might.
But with

Speaker 28 the Kyler Murray thing and the

Speaker 28 fact that the owners are getting together to discuss, like, do not pay these guys fully guaranteed contracts. I do think that that's a pretty big deal.

Speaker 78 Yeah.

Speaker 28 No, I don't. Like, it's big that all the teams who have an antitrust exemption to be getting together and discussing this.

Speaker 28 But again, yeah, this is Mike Florio's dream story that he could possibly write about. Right.

Speaker 10 And he was also part of also dropping it on a summer Friday or Summer Tuesday.

Speaker 48 What?

Speaker 40 It's Tuesday. It feels like a Friday.

Speaker 48 What day?

Speaker 40 Oh, hey.

Speaker 79 Summer. He dropped it.

Speaker 63 He was far away from

Speaker 56 Sunday.

Speaker 28 Mike, why'd you drop this news in the summer?

Speaker 28 This news would have banged if it was November.

Speaker 13 Look at his face right now.

Speaker 30 It's summer Friday.

Speaker 28 Hey, Hank, I have a question, though.

Speaker 49 Hank, it is Tuesday, brother.

Speaker 28 I have a question, Hank. If he dropped on a Friday, what's the big deal? That's still a weekday.

Speaker 49 It's not like it's a weekday.

Speaker 10 It's summer. No one cares.
It's summer.

Speaker 40 It's summer Friday.

Speaker 10 Summer. Cut the Friday.

Speaker 62 How did you get?

Speaker 31 It's Tuesday.

Speaker 68 It's Tuesday.

Speaker 50 We are golfing. We're doing the Ryder Cup.

Speaker 15 There's not going to be any spoilers coming out later this, what, in August?

Speaker 15 So that's why you're watching us in,

Speaker 18 I don't even know what to describe.

Speaker 38 beautiful cabin, a beautiful cabin.

Speaker 45 What what was that, Max?

Speaker 80 It's literally as far away from Friday as you could possibly be, yeah. Actually, like it's either Monday or Tuesday are both as far away, equally as far away from Friday.

Speaker 82 Yeah, Hank, where'd that come from?

Speaker 28 Where'd the Friday part come from?

Speaker 43 That was a bad thing because we're golfing, we're golfing, we're golfing,

Speaker 77 your brain goes to Fridays in summer golfing.

Speaker 10 Yeah, no, it's on me. Hand ups, hand up, hand ups, delete that.

Speaker 10 We're going to cut that.

Speaker 43 We're basically playing maximum amount of golf this week for content for our jobs. Yeah.
Hot cool thrown.

Speaker 20 Hank is very excited about that.

Speaker 28 Did you just try to move us on?

Speaker 49 Yeah, he did.

Speaker 40 All right, well, we'll move on.

Speaker 48 We'll move on.

Speaker 2 But one last thing. Aaron Rodgers is

Speaker 32 doing a retirement tour.

Speaker 28 I don't know that he is.

Speaker 32 He says he is.

Speaker 28 Do you think Aaron Rodgers is going to get to the end of the season and the Steelers make the playoffs and then he's going to fade quietly into the sunset? Probably not.

Speaker 28 Like, go buy a bungalow in Costa Rica? Probably not. I don't think he is.

Speaker 39 Yeah, probably not.

Speaker 32 I feel like he's just saying this maybe to gain favor from Steelers fans, being like, hey, I'm not going to torture you guys for too long.

Speaker 28 I mean, what does that mean for his legacy, though?

Speaker 70 Oh, man. Two teams.
Yeah. Well,

Speaker 20 he's got a legacy of 0.3.

Speaker 49 Yeah. What about Benedict Arnold?

Speaker 28 Zero championships, two teams. That's crazy.

Speaker 84 It's bad. Yeah, he's got negative.

Speaker 85 Although you can't divide by zero.

Speaker 28 No, I think if you leave a team and then they immediately win after you leave and then your new team doesn't win anything, then that's negative. That's negative legacy.

Speaker 10 Brian Whitney.

Speaker 71 Oh,

Speaker 71 god damn it, Hank.

Speaker 62 Why would you bring him up? Bryce Harper.

Speaker 49 Shit.

Speaker 17 Brian Whitney will be on the show on Friday.

Speaker 18 I've confirmed that booking, not because

Speaker 15 he's staying in a cabin with me in PFT.

Speaker 14 And I said to him, Hey, can you come on Friday?

Speaker 28 He said, Yeah. He is not looking forward to it.

Speaker 64 He's not.

Speaker 20 He's like, He said, What, so you can beat me up?

Speaker 43 Yeah.

Speaker 63 Like, yeah, dude.

Speaker 58 I had a dumb thought.

Speaker 28 This might be the dumbest thought.

Speaker 86 Okay.

Speaker 28 Maybe I've ever said. Okay.

Speaker 44 Yeah.

Speaker 28 No, it's dumber.

Speaker 4 Rollerblading from L.A.

Speaker 20 to San Diego.

Speaker 10 Dunking from the free throw?

Speaker 64 That rocks.

Speaker 26 Taking a fanboat from New Orleans to Baton Rouge after LSU won a championship.

Speaker 49 You're describing

Speaker 49 it.

Speaker 48 In the middle of the night.

Speaker 49 Do you realize that?

Speaker 28 What the hell you say makes me sound cool?

Speaker 68 As if LSU fans would be like, oh, shit.

Speaker 24 PFT and Big Cat are here.

Speaker 47 Now the party's...

Speaker 50 It was about the journey, the fanboat journey.

Speaker 26 It was about showing up on the fanboat.

Speaker 21 But go ahead.

Speaker 28 Yeah, so this might be the dumbest idea ever. Deep in the second round of the NBA draft, let's just say the Pacers got the last pick in the second round of the NBA draft.

Speaker 28 Maybe they're a little bit worried about selling tickets. Oh, I know.

Speaker 40 Where are you going with this?

Speaker 28 Maybe a little bit worried about selling tickets.

Speaker 32 This isn't dumb.

Speaker 28 Next season. This is not dumb.
Halliburton's not going to be back.

Speaker 25 This is not dumb.

Speaker 28 Why don't they draft Caitlin Clark?

Speaker 25 This is not dumb. This is not dumb.

Speaker 49 I do not think this is dumb at all.

Speaker 28 Put her in in like the late second half of a blowout, either way. maybe like a handful of games here or there.
Are they allowed to do that? I know that you can pay her.

Speaker 26 Yeah, I don't think this is dumb.

Speaker 28 I think she'd sell tickets.

Speaker 2 I do not think that's dumb at all.

Speaker 28 Now, is she at the ability level to be an NBA player? No, obviously not.

Speaker 49 But

Speaker 28 sell tickets. She's not, she can go.

Speaker 36 Ball and hoop.

Speaker 28 She can hit a couple threes.

Speaker 56 Ball and hoop.

Speaker 28 Hank, what do you think? Floor space. How dumb is that idea?

Speaker 10 It would sell tickets.

Speaker 55 It would sell tickets. Yeah.

Speaker 28 Like, honestly, the Wizards should draft her.

Speaker 7 It would be so funny.

Speaker 28 The Wizards should draft. I'm going to say this right now.
The Washington Wizards second-round pick, whatever your last second-round pick is, draft Caitlin Clark.

Speaker 82 Yeah.

Speaker 55 You want people to go to your games?

Speaker 19 That's, I mean, it's not a dumb idea.

Speaker 15 So I'm throwing out

Speaker 18 the Rollerblades was dumber.

Speaker 28 Zach, was that a dumb idea?

Speaker 28 Kind of a solid game plan to sell some tickets.

Speaker 69 Get Caitlin Clark in the building.

Speaker 28 Sell some jerseys? Yeah.

Speaker 69 Definitely sell some jerseys. Definitely,

Speaker 69 they're pumping merch.

Speaker 69 They pick Caitlin Clark up.

Speaker 46 Yeah, Pacers, Caitlin Clark jerseys would go crazy.

Speaker 87 Dude, they would go hard. Yeah,

Speaker 20 that would be sick.

Speaker 46 All right, Hank, you want to do hot seat chill throne?

Speaker 70 Or are you still thinking it Friday?

Speaker 10 No, let's do hot seat clothes.

Speaker 31 All right, hot seat chill throne.

Speaker 48 Firefest?

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Speaker 32 You can't.

Speaker 57 I was literally reading the ad and I saw Max giggling.

Speaker 24 Like, I saw

Speaker 57 his body in the background giggling, and I started to giggle.

Speaker 77 It's Friday, this guy.

Speaker 82 I just can't believe that so much.

Speaker 88 That's going to be an all-time.

Speaker 39 That's going to be

Speaker 40 so good.

Speaker 48 It's so good.

Speaker 43 It's bad.

Speaker 89 I just started thinking about it.

Speaker 80 I'm going to be giggling about it probably.

Speaker 50 For sure.

Speaker 23 I'm going to wake up tomorrow and try to get donuts.

Speaker 28 That was worse than Billy asking Whitney, how was your weekend on a Tuesday?

Speaker 42 On a Tuesday.

Speaker 26 No, yes, what were your plans for the weekend?

Speaker 28 How's your weekend?

Speaker 10 Yeah, how's your Saturday?

Speaker 63 How's your Saturday?

Speaker 77 How was your Saturday?

Speaker 28 Okay, I forgot that it was your Saturday.

Speaker 28 Just as bad, though. Hank, hot seat children.

Speaker 10 No, yeah, that made me never want to speak on this podcast again.

Speaker 10 I just, yeah.

Speaker 10 My hot seat's Jokic.

Speaker 74 Yeah. Yep.

Speaker 10 Out of nowhere, basically,

Speaker 10 the Nuggets owner was doing a press conference and said

Speaker 10 there's a nightmare scenario where the wrong player gets injured and the season apron could force them to consider the possibility of trading Nikola Jokic.

Speaker 28 What nightmare scenario is that?

Speaker 55 You're sorry, yeah, just like basically like Jamal Murray gets what is oh no, will he get injured again like every year?

Speaker 3 That was mean.

Speaker 10 Sorry, Jamal Murray, but that's I mean, that's basically like in the Celtics, you know, they were paying, they were doing the luxury tax.

Speaker 10 Like, that's the Celtics did the same thing where the nightmare scenario happened and they had to deal with it. They weren't talking about the nightmare scenario beforehand.

Speaker 10 This guy completely unprompted. They were like, yep, it could happen.
Like, why would you do that?

Speaker 90 I feel like on summer Friday.

Speaker 20 Yeah, I feel like he was at a, you don't try to take this back.

Speaker 15 Don't try to repurpose it and make a joke out of it.

Speaker 40 Do not.

Speaker 40 It's Tuesday. It's Tuesday.

Speaker 39 It's fucking Tuesday, dude.

Speaker 40 It's literally Tuesday.

Speaker 57 I feel like he came from a meeting where they maybe

Speaker 20 like some, like an accountant looked at it and was like, hey, if you traded Jokic,

Speaker 77 Silver Friday.

Speaker 2 All right, that's our Jokic discussion.

Speaker 5 Well, okay, I have a spin zone.

Speaker 48 I got a cool throne. Wait, wait, I got a chill throne.

Speaker 28 Quick spin zone for that, though. I got a chill throne.
If you're the GM of the night, your job is to literally think through nightmare scenarios, right?

Speaker 25 Not say him, not say him, but yes, not say him.

Speaker 54 Do you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 21 No, I think he's true.

Speaker 13 No, that's true.

Speaker 28 Thought about it.

Speaker 87 That's true. Just don't say it.

Speaker 15 I think what happened was, though, I think he was literally in a meeting right before the press conference with like an accountant, like the head of payroll.

Speaker 22 And it was like, can you just give me, like, show me what we got right now?

Speaker 50 Yeah.

Speaker 35 And he saw Jokic at the top.

Speaker 45 He's like, oh, well.

Speaker 47 And then it just came out.

Speaker 28 I think his job, a good GM should be thinking.

Speaker 72 Not GM, owner.

Speaker 19 Josh Crunkey said this.

Speaker 8 Owner.

Speaker 28 A good owner, if they're in lockstep with a GM, should be thinking through all the worst case scenarios. They should have a plan for whatever happens.

Speaker 28 I think maybe he had a meeting where they were going through the worst case scenarios, and that scenario stood out to him so much. He's literally had nightmares about him.

Speaker 28 Like, it has become a nightmare scenario for him. Yeah.
And so now he's just like thinking about it non-stop. So he had to, he had to say it.
You should not say that.

Speaker 55 Never, but you should think about it.

Speaker 28 Never say it.

Speaker 91 Never.

Speaker 92 Never.

Speaker 10 My chill throne,

Speaker 10 tight end university.

Speaker 8 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 46 Taylor Swift.

Speaker 10 They got Taylor. T.
Swifty.

Speaker 42 Wow.

Speaker 10 She was at, we were, we were at this. Or no, I don't think you guys came.
Me and Billy were at this party.

Speaker 40 We were there.

Speaker 28 We were upstairs.

Speaker 10 We were at this party two years ago.

Speaker 10 Would we have gotten the invite if we were there this year?

Speaker 54 Oh, it could have been you.

Speaker 24 I think it might have.

Speaker 57 We did get the invite this year.

Speaker 43 But we'll, yeah.

Speaker 24 I think

Speaker 22 us not going maybe.

Speaker 10 That's what I, I was, that was, that was my first reaction.

Speaker 48 I think there might be a chance to like, oh, yeah, the party.

Speaker 77 But if we were there, would she have gone?

Speaker 52 Yes.

Speaker 93 And how would it have gone for her?

Speaker 40 Correct.

Speaker 28 Yes,

Speaker 17 yes, she would have gone.

Speaker 28 I think there's a but they would have they would have oh they would have closed we would have been put in a corner yeah yeah

Speaker 10 we would have probably been given like a fake I also think we would have borderline knockout invited yeah we we might have been given a fake location like oh yeah the party's over here but that's a huge huge is she doing drills with him yeah I don't know it's a crazy it's a crazy crazy get yeah it is I might even dare I say I think Travis Kelsey and Taylor Swift are officially dating in my eyes that's huge Yeah, people forget the other part of that clip was me saying if she ever goes to TEU.

Speaker 28 Have we seen video evidence of her at TEU or just pictures?

Speaker 20 I assume there's video evidence as well.

Speaker 35 I'll find it.

Speaker 28 Well, Hank gets caught with a lot of questionable video evidence. True.

Speaker 35 Did you see the dog scuba diving?

Speaker 29 Yeah. That was sick.

Speaker 45 This is a big bubble.

Speaker 54 And the shark came up and hit him.

Speaker 10 And the cats

Speaker 15 off the diving board. Yeah, that was.

Speaker 68 That one was real.

Speaker 28 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 39 Okay.

Speaker 3 PFT, your hot seat shelter on.

Speaker 28 My hot seat is Antonio Brown.

Speaker 42 Oh.

Speaker 28 Antonio Brown's on the hot seat. We didn't talk about this.

Speaker 28 Dude is on the run right now because he's wanted for attempted murder. That's not good.

Speaker 28 But Antonio Brown has done a great job of just putting so much weird shit out there that the attempted murder thing kind of just gets lumped in with all the other stuff that he's done. Right.

Speaker 28 Where you're jacking off in a pool in front of a family.

Speaker 17 Yeah, I remember that one.

Speaker 28 Where you're spray painting your mustache gold and then touching knees with Jeff Darlington.

Speaker 45 The jack off pool one, was that in like Abu Dhabi or something?

Speaker 28 Like a country where you're allowed to jack off.

Speaker 2 No, no, no, no, I'm not saying that, but I feel like there was something where it was like he was in a foreign country, so that's why people were like, oh, whatever.

Speaker 55 I feel like in Abu Dhabi, they would cut you off.

Speaker 13 I agree.

Speaker 22 I agree. I can't remember where it happened.

Speaker 28 But yeah, so Antonio Brown,

Speaker 28 he's accused of attempted murder for firing a gun after whatever that stream fight was.

Speaker 28 I didn't have the attention span to really dig into who was at that fight.

Speaker 28 I guess Aiden Ross? Aiden Ross, yeah, yeah. So

Speaker 28 he's on the run,

Speaker 28 and he's also still tweeting. Well, he's on the run.

Speaker 48 Well, his account is.

Speaker 28 His account is still tweeting. Yes.
But he's still posting. Like, there's been videos and stuff.

Speaker 28 At some point, Antonio Brown is going to give away his location, right? Yeah. It was Dubai.
It was Dubai. Dubai.

Speaker 43 Okay.

Speaker 2 Like, when...

Speaker 28 Who was it? Was it Andrew Tate that gave away his location by like posting a selfie video of him?

Speaker 28 I think it was like a pizza box and there's a pizza box in the background that's like it's only antonio brown is going to do that exact same thing he's going to make it easier he's going to make it way easier he's going to just post he's going to post himself up at like a very well-known place yeah in front of the eiffel tower he's in times square yeah uh so yeah antonio brown hot seat and then uh my cool throne is my fear of heights chill throne chill throne is my fear of heights

Speaker 28 because uh on the plane ride here shout out to the pilot that we had today uh he let me sit up front i was basically like a five-year-old that he let into the cockpit and he was like showing me all the stuff that he was doing.

Speaker 28 And he's like, okay, well, I'm going to turn the radio on and you're going to get to hear all the navigation info. And look, look over there.
That's where the airstrip is.

Speaker 28 And he talked me into taking flying lessons.

Speaker 65 Hell yes.

Speaker 28 I think I'm going to take flying lessons from the sky. Nice.
And the sky, Marty. I think I'm going to finally do it and get behind the stick of a plane.

Speaker 95 Please don't die.

Speaker 28 Well, no, I said flying lessons, not crashing lessons.

Speaker 1 Well, I'm just saying, please don't die.

Speaker 28 I'm going to try not to die. I'm going to try my best.

Speaker 34 That's all I'm going to do.

Speaker 28 I'm getting a lot of blank stares in this room from people that are like, oh, PFT is not going to do this.

Speaker 73 No, no, no.

Speaker 32 What did I just say?

Speaker 24 I think you're going to do it.

Speaker 57 I'm saying, please do not die.

Speaker 10 I think you're going to get a flying lesson. I think you're going to get a pilot's license.
I think you're going to buy a plane.

Speaker 25 And then you might die.

Speaker 43 Correct.

Speaker 34 That's the kind of thing. That's where I'm worried about the death.

Speaker 28 I'm never going to buy a plane.

Speaker 63 Okay.

Speaker 49 But I already own several on my and I don't want you to die.

Speaker 24 Yeah.

Speaker 22 This is me as a like I'm saying as a like people who just fly on their own

Speaker 28 do die. No, but I was watching him, and it was like, oh, I was asking the best questions to him.

Speaker 55 He kept turning around.

Speaker 28 You know what he would say to me? Great question. Oh, nice.
I'd be like, what's our landing speed? What's our stall speed? Great question. At this altitude, great question.

Speaker 28 I could tell he was impressed. Yes, Max?

Speaker 80 What is the point of taking flying lessons if you don't intend to use them?

Speaker 28 It doesn't mean I'm not going to fly a plane. It just means I'm not going to.

Speaker 48 Great question.

Speaker 28 Sad question.

Speaker 80 You would learn how to fly, and then you'd be like you know it would be actually sick if i could just instead of go go to traffic to my lake house i could just fly to the lake and then you'd be like oh yeah i found this fucking plane on plane b and b yeah right that i can find 50 grand right

Speaker 48 on facebook market that is that is yes this all is yeah that is a very

Speaker 28 plane and then you guys all are following along with where i went to that is a very valid concern that hank had of me working hard getting a pilot's license and then cheaping out on a plane because i got correct

Speaker 28 So, like, this guy's practically giving it away.

Speaker 24 So, is my initial inclination not correct when I said please don't die?

Speaker 24 That's exactly that's where my brain went right away.

Speaker 47 It was just like, you're gonna end up flying a small plane by yourself.

Speaker 6 Please don't die. The El Camino, but in the air, but dangerous.

Speaker 28 Oh, my God. Yeah.

Speaker 40 Well, yeah, hey, guess what? When you run out of gas, that's another good point.

Speaker 2 When you run out of gas with your plane, that's not good.

Speaker 28 That's another good point by Max, which is if the El Camino has any bearing on how I evaluate motors,

Speaker 28 I'm not going to buy a plane. I have no intention.

Speaker 2 I will.

Speaker 28 I'm just considering

Speaker 10 you are never allowed to buy a plane. Why?

Speaker 18 You both would crash it.

Speaker 28 Yes. I just think

Speaker 28 on this podcast, we should be nurturing each other's interests and hobbies. And this is an opportunity I have to do something incredible.
And I think I'm going to take flying lessons.

Speaker 91 Okay. All right.

Speaker 17 Can I say it one more time?

Speaker 11 Please don't die.

Speaker 97 All right.

Speaker 28 Hank, you should laugh. You can't fucking get 10 feet off the ground.

Speaker 84 Well, 10 feet off the ground would be way more than non-king.

Speaker 28 All right, that was my chill throne.

Speaker 28 Chill thrown is flying, baby. Take it to the skies.

Speaker 98 All right, my hot seat is our good friend Joe Burrow, because we didn't talk about this on Sunday, but the baseball throw.

Speaker 37 What happened there?

Speaker 17 We have to defend Joe.

Speaker 50 We love Joe.

Speaker 28 What happened? It's Sun Tzu. Have you read The Art of War, Big Cat? Okay, yeah.

Speaker 28 Make your enemies believe you're weak when you are are in fact.

Speaker 50 So you can't throw a baseball?

Speaker 66 Yeah.

Speaker 10 Well, he's so focused on throwing a football. Yeah, I know.
It's like it was a football motion.

Speaker 66 All right, I'm not sure.

Speaker 10 Like, he doesn't have the, like, I don't, I don't, he might not have played baseball, so he just only knows how to throw overhand like a football.

Speaker 66 My spin zone is.

Speaker 10 I can't throw a football because I can only throw a baseball.

Speaker 17 Yeah, my spin zone is that Michael Rubin just paid off every single person that had anything to do with Fanatics Fest and like, like, checked off, like, all right, Brady, you're going to, or Manning, you're going to fake tackle Brady.

Speaker 52 Kevin Durant, we're going to get you traded.

Speaker 20 Joe Burrow, you're gonna throw a baseball poorly.

Speaker 65 I actually think that he probably bought viral moments.

Speaker 10 I

Speaker 68 don't disagree with that. Yeah, so that's what I'm going with.

Speaker 26 So I think Joe Burrow.

Speaker 10 Livy Dunn broke the World Cup. Yep.

Speaker 24 The guy

Speaker 37 spilled the soda next to Livby Dunn.

Speaker 74 I think Joe Burrow, incredible entrepreneur, capitalist.

Speaker 17 You made a lot of money to throw a baseball like that.

Speaker 47 That's my take.

Speaker 28 I actually don't think that you're wrong.

Speaker 87 Yeah.

Speaker 28 I think that if you look at everything that came out of that weekend, there was a lot of planned.

Speaker 46 There was a lot of planned viral moments that, like, they probably are like, they actually probably, there's probably a contract somewhere that's like, it's titled Joe Burrow throws a baseball poorly, uh, and here's the offer sheet.

Speaker 28 How much money do you think it would take for if you were Joe Burrow? I'm not saying you're you, I'm saying you're an NFL quarterback. How much money would it take for you to put that tape out there?

Speaker 10 I think just a couple.

Speaker 47 I was gonna say a couple million because Joe Burrow doesn't seem phased by what other people think of him.

Speaker 28 Yeah, Yeah, I think a couple million. That should get it done.

Speaker 10 Like one baseball pitch for seven for one million.

Speaker 63 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 43 Yeah.

Speaker 28 If you're going into a contract year, price goes up.

Speaker 68 Yep.

Speaker 78 Agreed.

Speaker 32 Also, hot seat.

Speaker 2 Have you guys seen these Italian DJs online?

Speaker 22 Have you seen them?

Speaker 28 Are those guys real?

Speaker 52 Yeah. What is that?

Speaker 2 Are they industry plants?

Speaker 70 They're everywhere right now.

Speaker 97 I mean, okay.

Speaker 47 Have you seen them, Pete?

Speaker 28 I've not seen them, but are those the guys that use like people's heads? No.

Speaker 2 They're basically,

Speaker 37 it's like they wear like 80s clothes and they're usually synth pop. It's these guys.

Speaker 57 They're usually in like a bathroom or like a kitchen and they're doing like 80s techno music.

Speaker 57 Is that what an industry plant is? I wish I knew what industry plants were before

Speaker 98 someone was like, hey, that's an industry plant.

Speaker 28 I wish I could see it myself.

Speaker 11 Like the Bobby Altop.

Speaker 74 She was an industry plant, right?

Speaker 10 I don't think she was either. I think, I think people throw that around, people get popular.
I think these guys are just got a unique vibe. All right, I like them, and they're popping off.

Speaker 22 I also had a moment where I was like, Are they AI?

Speaker 96 That bummed me out.

Speaker 66 Yeah, that's

Speaker 101 the problem in today's vibe.

Speaker 100 Yeah, it is your problem. No, yeah, because they have good beats.

Speaker 28 I've done more research in that guy that I thought might have been AI.

Speaker 28 I think he's actually AI. Oh, the singer-songwriter that I was like, this dude's next up.

Speaker 3 Yeah, so that's kind of what this is like.

Speaker 20 This could easily be AI.

Speaker 91 Yeah.

Speaker 18 Fuck.

Speaker 17 All right, my chill throne is a quick embrace debate that I saw online today.

Speaker 46 Do you guys, when you guys go to the bathroom, do you piss with your balls out or in?

Speaker 51 I just thought it was a really funny

Speaker 84 embrace debate.

Speaker 28 Balls in? You separate, yeah.

Speaker 96 I think I piss with my balls out.

Speaker 28 No, it's a need-to-know basis. My balls don't need to know that I'm pissing.

Speaker 10 Completely dependent on pants.

Speaker 85 That's a good point.

Speaker 52 Like jeans, I'll probably go balls in.

Speaker 28 If I'm wearing sweatpants, it's definitely balls balls oh yeah if you go sweatpants you gotta you gotta pull down right to get everything over right no but even some some like you know like the pants i have on now i'd probably just go balls out

Speaker 28 yeah yeah just flop them over yeah i think i go balls yeah so when i piss i'm like i'm i'm pretty i'm pretty sure i'm balls out

Speaker 28 except for when it's a zipper then even if you put your balls through a zipper that's crazy you're crazy yeah that's that feels like little tiny razor blades but yeah if you're if you're pissing that's the penis Also, I'm drunk enough.

Speaker 28 If you're having sex, then that's

Speaker 28 the balls need to be out.

Speaker 28 Nobody just goes penis over.

Speaker 22 You go all the way down to your...

Speaker 10 It's like, what am I doing? You go

Speaker 66 down or sell your fucking.

Speaker 97 Yeah.

Speaker 10 Not to my ankles, but like, yeah, just fucking... I don't care.

Speaker 66 Are you balls out or balls in?

Speaker 69 It's depending on the pants. Like, if we're doing like elastic waistband, more athletic fans, probably balls out.
If we're doing jeans, probably balls in.

Speaker 28 You guys ever pissed to the side?

Speaker 28 Like down the leg of the shorts if you're wearing shorts,

Speaker 69 I don't have that kind of yet.

Speaker 28 Well, you take a knee for it.

Speaker 96 What? Now, where are we talking about? Like, if you play

Speaker 74 on a field.

Speaker 59 Yeah, on a field.

Speaker 55 Yeah, I've done that on a beach before.

Speaker 28 Yeah, when I used to play rugby, it's like during the game, you go off to the corner of the field, you just pull your little pecker through the side, and then you piss.

Speaker 28 And then hopefully somebody gets tackled right there, and you all share a good laugh.

Speaker 14 I took a piss today on the golf course behind a tree, and I like, you know, when you just pick the wrong tree?

Speaker 99 I started pissing, and then I looked to my left, and there there was like five different angles of people being able to look at me.

Speaker 100 I was like, well, that didn't work.

Speaker 28 I saw memes pissing outside today on the course, just in somebody's front yard. Memes was just standing and he pulls his pants below his ass.

Speaker 70 Balls out?

Speaker 28 Below his ass, just pissing in somebody's front yard. This poor family balls out.

Speaker 1 Zach finishes off hot seat.

Speaker 50 Chill trunk.

Speaker 3 Also, congrats to Zach. He didn't die today on the plane.

Speaker 69 Plane right went well. Yeah, everybody survived.

Speaker 69 Someone's telling me the pilot had several decades of experience with commercial airlines. So that was super reassuring.
I was like, oh, this guy's got skin in the game. He's a professional guy.

Speaker 69 He wants to get back to the family.

Speaker 33 And you got a free kiss from Jerry anytime you want.

Speaker 69 I do have one of those banked for a bad day.

Speaker 20 He banked a kiss from Jerry because I told Zach, I was like, hey, if we're going down, do you like, are you worried that maybe you'll think in your head, man, I'm about to die and I never kissed a boy?

Speaker 14 And I was like, what boy would you kiss? And Jerry was like, I'll do it.

Speaker 17 And that he said that offer stands.

Speaker 69 He said, permanently stands, so I'll keep that card back pocket. Nice.
Never know.

Speaker 69 huge okay what do you got so i do have a hot seat are you guys are familiar with like the uh originally when the ai video started coming out it was like wonky eyes wonky hands you could tell right yeah yeah and then last couple last couple months you guys saw the videos where the koalas are vlogging and the yetis are vlogging through the city and everything yep now have you seen the the ai test videos to where it's like okay they'll give you five scenarios five people or five news reporters and then you have to pick like is this ai before and after the video yeah like go through like five of them yeah my my hot seat is uh pretty much everybody on earth, we probably need to come together and realize that we can't tell anymore.

Speaker 69 No, there's like, and I thought this would be like a decade, 15, 20 years from now. I think it's in the next six months where it's absolutely finished, and there's no need to, like,

Speaker 69 there's no need in getting on the internet because you have no clue what you're looking at, correct?

Speaker 42 Yeah, yeah, very, very soon.

Speaker 28 Yeah,

Speaker 28 agree.

Speaker 43 Yeah, yeah,

Speaker 94 the cat's high diving.

Speaker 23 Yes, the kittens high diving?

Speaker 54 No, that was real.

Speaker 77 Wait, did you fail the test?

Speaker 62 Zach's right.

Speaker 69 I felt several of them on there. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 It's insanely difficult sometimes.

Speaker 10 Extremely.

Speaker 28 It's pretty scary. Zach,

Speaker 28 would you be interested in an app that goes on your phone that flags every AI created video as being AI before it plays?

Speaker 69 Yes, if that's already it.

Speaker 28 This is what I'm working on right now.

Speaker 34 That's huge.

Speaker 28 It's called KO AI, and I'm working on it.

Speaker 69 Let me get in the beta on that.

Speaker 28 I think that would be a good app to have.

Speaker 28 But yeah, for the last, I'd say, four months, it's just scary. Now we're just, I'm just terrified online all the time.

Speaker 69 I thought we had tons of time,

Speaker 69 maybe, maybe like the way younger people's problem, you know what I mean? Like the smaller kids now.

Speaker 70 No, we're all absolutely fucked. Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 28 And I know I might be late to that, but here recently, I'm like, all right, I see the internet's finished.

Speaker 10 It's been going on for a while. They've been good for a long time.

Speaker 57 I see people get you to confuse which day it is.

Speaker 69 Sometimes it's Tuesday. It's Friday.

Speaker 28 I saw this trend. It's happening on TikTok right now.
It's ASMR. It's visual AI ASMR.

Speaker 28 So it's people cutting into like jello and fruits and shit, but it's all AI. And it's supposed to make you feel good while you're watching it.
But the entire thing is AI. It's just,

Speaker 28 you're now officially a zombie. If you watch those videos and you just stare at it and feel good,

Speaker 28 you're not even a person anymore at that point.

Speaker 69 There's like AI influencers on Instagram with like hundreds of thousands of followers, and their comment sections are just a bunch of horny dudes who have no clue that it's not a real woman.

Speaker 28 I actually think that's not the worst thing in the world.

Speaker 10 I saw one of those girls the other day.

Speaker 28 I think

Speaker 28 hot you get a bunch of weirdos

Speaker 28 like moth to a flame around an AI chick that's at least you're not harassing a real girl.

Speaker 69 Was it obviously fake or no?

Speaker 10 No, I had to really double take dive deep and figure out.

Speaker 85 I was like, I'm pretty sure this girl's pretty sure I followed AI on Instagram, but guess what? She's so hot.

Speaker 96 It doesn't really bother me.

Speaker 14 Every time I see them like, well, those huge cans.

Speaker 28 They really figured out...

Speaker 28 They figured out the nipples way before they figured out the thumbs.

Speaker 58 Yeah.

Speaker 69 All right, your chill trone. I do do have a childrone.
This might be piggybacking a little bit off of what you guys talked about earlier in the episode.

Speaker 69 We also. The Friday thing that Hank did.

Speaker 100 We're cutting that. That's not.

Speaker 69 Friday's coming up in most,

Speaker 69 in a lot of days, but it is Australia.

Speaker 63 Australia.

Speaker 63 China.

Speaker 10 It's Friday in China.

Speaker 79 No, it's not even Friday.

Speaker 28 I don't even think with the furthest time change,

Speaker 70 it could be relatively close.

Speaker 10 Well, when they're listening now.

Speaker 28 Zach, you're right. No, still no.

Speaker 95 How far ahead do you think?

Speaker 66 Like two days or something.

Speaker 28 Do you think there's a place on Earth that's two days ahead?

Speaker 10 18 hours?

Speaker 55 How many time zones do you think there are?

Speaker 66 There's eight time zones.

Speaker 102 You're all 12.

Speaker 22 There are not 12. They're not eight.

Speaker 47 Think about think about what a day is.

Speaker 10 There's 24 time zones?

Speaker 66 Friday.

Speaker 34 You want to know a crazy fact?

Speaker 20 China only has one time zone.

Speaker 10 That's crazy. Yeah.
Sounds like Arizona.

Speaker 52 It's pretty but china's china should have like six or seven

Speaker 100 but

Speaker 28 you just mean they don't change their their clocks yeah you know what's what's crazy though is like why don't we just have one time where it's the same time everywhere on earth

Speaker 28 yeah i mean but just if you're if if you say it's like 12 noon uh in in England, in London or wherever Greenwich meant is, then 12 noon in England is sunny, and then then 12 noon in like Alaska is nighttime.

Speaker 18 What do we do about the nine to five?

Speaker 47 What about, what do we do for,

Speaker 20 I guess it still would be five o'clock.

Speaker 28 That's actually a good point. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 28 It's not five o'clock somewhere if we only have one time zone. Yeah.

Speaker 85 Yeah.

Speaker 48 Okay.

Speaker 22 Well, no, it would be.

Speaker 47 Oh, yeah, one time zone. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 34 It would literally only be five o'clock in one place.

Speaker 96 One place at the whole earth.

Speaker 28 There should be a country where it's always five o'clock.

Speaker 100 Yeah.

Speaker 13 Okay.

Speaker 69 you're chill turn. Oh, gotcha.
Uh, I would like to say honorable mention chiltern, I think it is pretty chill to already be on Friday, so that is huge.

Speaker 8 But, uh,

Speaker 69 uh, I just to piggyback off what you guys were talking about a little earlier, uh, I know okay had the parade, it's huge.

Speaker 69 SJA is running through the streets with the trophy, which I thought was kind of a wild move on the concrete.

Speaker 69 You know, everybody's having a great time, they're on the buses, they're popping the bottles of champagne,

Speaker 69 but Alex Caruso with the Lakers ring as the chain with the Mount Rushmore tea and the big bottles of 42, he's having a splendid day. The bubble ring allegations are gone forever.

Speaker 63 No, what? No.

Speaker 55 I think they got harder.

Speaker 96 No.

Speaker 49 You don't think so?

Speaker 99 No, his ring is just a piece of like, it's a necklace.

Speaker 33 It's not even real anymore.

Speaker 69 So I guess you can maybe say, okay, maybe the allegations of that championship aren't gone, but he has another one to say, hey, why also have this one? Is that fair to say? Yeah.

Speaker 28 I mean, now he's treating his own one like it's no better than a shark's tooth.

Speaker 104 I'll say this. I'll say this.

Speaker 51 I think he went from zero rings to one and a half rings.

Speaker 25 I don't know if that makes sense. No, in a way.

Speaker 28 It does in my head. In a way, because it validates the first ranks for a half.

Speaker 70 Yeah.

Speaker 105 Yeah.

Speaker 28 How many has LeBron won since the bubble? Zero. Interesting.

Speaker 42 Fair.

Speaker 18 You big LeBron guy?

Speaker 69 I think LeBron's great at basketball for sure.

Speaker 91 Okay.

Speaker 95 Sounds like you're a big LeBron guy.

Speaker 70 LeBron's a good athlete.

Speaker 91 Okay.

Speaker 18 Carmelo, though, over LeBron?

Speaker 106 Yeah, 100%.

Speaker 28 Amari Stadamire.

Speaker 55 One guy to go.

Speaker 28 Amari Stademey or LeBron James?

Speaker 69 In what capacity?

Speaker 58 One guy. One gotta go.

Speaker 69 Basketball?

Speaker 11 Yeah.

Speaker 69 Can we rotate with someone else?

Speaker 97 This is an important question.

Speaker 79 All right,

Speaker 79 last question.

Speaker 51 Then we're gonna go to Mount Rushmore and then we have our two interviews.

Speaker 18 Mellow versus LeBron to 11 one-on-one.

Speaker 91 Mellow.

Speaker 42 That's what I thought.

Speaker 63 All right.

Speaker 50 We're gonna do Mount Rushmore of M Things,

Speaker 17 and then we have Ryan Rosillo and then Isaiah Hartenstein.

Speaker 15 And we'll finish up with FAQs.

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Speaker 25 Okay, it is time. It is Mount Rushmore season.

Speaker 2 We are here.

Speaker 28 Best time of the year.

Speaker 65 Best time of the year.

Speaker 6 A reminder, it is PFT PFT and Hank, Max, and Means, and me and Zach.

Speaker 68 And we will post.

Speaker 5 Do we want to talk about posting the polls?

Speaker 3 Because it feels like every single year we have an issue with that.

Speaker 17 What time are we posting them?

Speaker 6 They're going to be blind.

Speaker 78 We're going to go off the votes.

Speaker 28 We're not allowed to interact with the polls.

Speaker 71 Correct.

Speaker 22 Whatsoever.

Speaker 22 Not even a retweet. We're not.

Speaker 5 We've done retweets in the past. I don't care.

Speaker 28 I don't think we are.

Speaker 91 Okay.

Speaker 71 I mean, whatever rules we make.

Speaker 48 We can retweet it.

Speaker 37 We can retweet?

Speaker 48 Yeah.

Speaker 10 Do you want as many people voting as possible?

Speaker 63 No, no, no, no, no,

Speaker 63 no, no, no, no, no, no, FT.

Speaker 48 Nice.

Speaker 2 No retweets. Yeah.
No retweets, no interaction.

Speaker 28 Hank's right. I think what we're seeing from Hank is actually just gross.

Speaker 49 Max, you guys.

Speaker 54 Guy, yeah. Good eye, Max.

Speaker 2 All right. So we'll post them on the Pardon My Takes Twitter every day.

Speaker 51 What time? Do we know?

Speaker 48 Because meme's going to ask

Speaker 10 11. 11 Central.

Speaker 3 11 Central, so people have time to listen to the show.

Speaker 28 Hour-long vote?

Speaker 72 Is it usually, yeah, or two hours?

Speaker 96 Two hours.

Speaker 108 Two hours. Two hours.

Speaker 22 And then this year, we've decided we're going to do something for the punishment where there's going to be four punishments.

Speaker 2 One is going to be what we knew, we know one and four.

Speaker 1 We don't know two and three.

Speaker 72 We got to figure that out, which we can, anyone who has ideas, throw them out there.

Speaker 37 So we decided,

Speaker 1 there'll be four punishments that we'll choose from.

Speaker 17 We're going to use the lottery ball machine at the end of Mount Rushmore season so the losing team will have an equal chance to get one of the four punishments.

Speaker 37 One of the punishments will be those two guys have to drive to Mount Rushmore and back,

Speaker 72 no stopping or sleeping over, and basically live stream the whole thing, take a picture of Mount Rushmore, of them in front of Mount Rushmore, and then drive right back.

Speaker 47 And then the fourth punishment will be the

Speaker 2 first and second place team will have to buy a vacation for the losing team.

Speaker 1 So there's one really bad, one really good, and then two and three, we got to figure out they got to be kind of medium punishments that can be interactive for the fans.

Speaker 28 And then to decide which punishment we get, we're going to use the lotto system, right? Kind of like

Speaker 28 there's going to be a lottery ball machine. It's going to be weighted like the NBA draft.
Yep.

Speaker 28 So it's a higher percentage that you get punishments two and three than the punishment that's really just a vacation.

Speaker 72 Well, it would be the same, that you get two or the vacation or three or the vacation.

Speaker 6 It'd be 25%.

Speaker 28 Oh, it's going to be 25% for each one.

Speaker 6 Well, we can change it.

Speaker 72 Okay. Yeah, we can change that.

Speaker 62 I thought it was going to be equal, equal.

Speaker 40 There's four punishments. I'm not doing Mount Rushmore.

Speaker 78 Well, because you could have a really bad one or a really good one.

Speaker 10 But if you come in dead last,

Speaker 78 you're having to do the lottery ball no matter what.

Speaker 10 For 25, for no advantage?

Speaker 28 No, it's just you're getting selected something.

Speaker 14 So you have a one in four chance of going on vacation.

Speaker 15 You have a three in four chance of being punished.

Speaker 28 I think it should be weighted a little bit.

Speaker 10 If it's not weighted, then I don't, yeah, what's the point of it? Yeah.

Speaker 4 Well, it's weighted in the fact that three out of four are not good.

Speaker 32 But there's no incentive to do well in not rush four season well yeah you don't want to lose and go into the lottery i think it should be like a 10 chance you get the vacation that's fine but i i agree with that too that's fine vacation should that's fine but you you understand what i'm saying even if if you lose you have to do the lottery ball and three out of four suck yeah so there is an incentive to not lose there is but 25 are you just saying you're guaranteed to have vacation never mind never mind what i just yeah i i thought everyone was doing it oh no no no i thought just a losing team i thought just losing teams Three teams were losing.

Speaker 10 No, no, no.

Speaker 68 We did throw around a bunch of different ideas. No, it's just a losing team is going to the lottery ball.

Speaker 51 And yeah, we can make the vacation 10% and the other ones 30%.

Speaker 70 Yeah.

Speaker 7 I like that. Okay.
I like that.

Speaker 104 Okay.

Speaker 4 So we're going to start Mount Rushmore's season.

Speaker 17 And by the way, if you have a good Mount Rushmore, if you have an idea for a good Mount Rushmore, please tweet us, send us an email.

Speaker 72 We'll do, we have a lot of topics we need to get through. We have a lot of Mount Rushmores we'd love to do.

Speaker 2 But we're going to start with something that's very open-ended to give us a way to get into the flow.

Speaker 22 It's a Mount Rushmore of things that start with M.

Speaker 95 M.

Speaker 10 M.

Speaker 95 M.

Speaker 10 As in Moo.

Speaker 96 As in Moo. Breaking Moos.

Speaker 74 How are we doing draft order?

Speaker 28 I think we go Lotto Ball. We go, one team gets one through 25, 0 through 25.
One team gets 26 through 50. One team gets 51 through 75.
The other team gets 76 through 100. And then whoever gets picked.

Speaker 71 There's only three teams.

Speaker 28 Yeah, that's right. Okay, 33.

Speaker 93 I was like, where are you going with this? 33.

Speaker 28 We split the lotto ball up into three teams, and then whoever gets that ball, first pick, clockwise from there.

Speaker 48 Yep. Okay.

Speaker 109 So.

Speaker 80 0 to 33, 33 to 66.

Speaker 73 Is 0 in there?

Speaker 48 Sure.

Speaker 48 No, no.

Speaker 80 1 to 33.

Speaker 82 Yeah. 33.

Speaker 80 34 to 66.

Speaker 17 Yeah.

Speaker 72 66.

Speaker 48 7 to 100. 300.
Okay.

Speaker 58 All right.

Speaker 28 So who gets what?

Speaker 97 Three.

Speaker 108 I don't want, we don't, we don't want it.

Speaker 3 We'll take the middles. I don't care.

Speaker 90 Yeah, I'll take the

Speaker 108 yeah, we'll take the end.

Speaker 26 So we have, Zach, we have 34 to 66.

Speaker 10 Oh, I got three discounts.

Speaker 53 Agreed. I can't do math.

Speaker 14 I feel like that's we have less numbers.

Speaker 5 What do you have? I think. 34 to 66.

Speaker 98 I feel like 67 to 100 has more numbers, but

Speaker 52 that's just a vibe thing.

Speaker 49 No, I think that's true.

Speaker 13 I think that's true. Yeah.

Speaker 48 I think you have one more number.

Speaker 80 33.3%.

Speaker 48 Yeah.

Speaker 108 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 44 Whatever.

Speaker 2 So you have to 99.

Speaker 80 Okay, fine. And then, yeah, deal.

Speaker 2 100 means 100, we end the show forever.

Speaker 44 Okay? Deal.

Speaker 16 100 means this is the last part of my take.

Speaker 68 Literally, the mic will cut out, and that will be it.

Speaker 34 We'll never do another episode.

Speaker 28 At least we won't do Mount Rushmore ever. Zach will just give us his Mount Rushmore.

Speaker 74 I'm not rooting for 100.

Speaker 78 I hope it's three.

Speaker 71 Three counts for Hank.

Speaker 81 55.

Speaker 42 55.

Speaker 55 So you guys first.

Speaker 5 Do we get to decide if we want to go first?

Speaker 91 Sure.

Speaker 48 No,

Speaker 80 I think you guys just get to pick the order. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 91 Okay.

Speaker 28 By the way, Hank and I, it lockstep.

Speaker 36 Oh, I love that. We got seats.

Speaker 23 You guys have said that so many times. We got such a good thing.

Speaker 28 That's such a good thing going right now.

Speaker 48 We do.

Speaker 31 Zach, should we go first?

Speaker 103 You want to go first?

Speaker 69 If you feel good about going first, I'm down to go first.

Speaker 48 Yeah, I feel good about going first.

Speaker 13 Give us ride.

Speaker 62 Fuck it.

Speaker 6 We'll go first, and then who's going second?

Speaker 7 You choose.

Speaker 91 Oh, all right.

Speaker 72 Well, it's kind of, yeah, because they're sitting across from each other.

Speaker 85 We're sitting across from each other.

Speaker 3 Max and memes can go second.

Speaker 66 Yes.

Speaker 96 Love that.

Speaker 48 You guys go third?

Speaker 28 Hank and Iron Lock steps.

Speaker 1 And we're going to change every day.

Speaker 82 It just keeps changing.

Speaker 1 So does first go to second after the next show?

Speaker 96 I can't remember. Yeah, yes.

Speaker 34 I can't remember at all.

Speaker 28 No, second goes to first.

Speaker 48 Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 48 Second goes to first.

Speaker 97 Yeah,

Speaker 13 listen, we're a little rusty.

Speaker 110 We're a little rusty.

Speaker 91 Not us.

Speaker 64 Yeah, we're in locks up.

Speaker 80 You guys keep saying you're in locks up.

Speaker 63 Would you like to make the first pick of Mount Rushmore season?

Speaker 97 I think we go with our 1-1.

Speaker 26 Zach, you do the honors.

Speaker 56 You think we go 1-1 here?

Speaker 63 I think we go 1-1. Three?

Speaker 69 First pick we would like to elect

Speaker 26 music. We're taking all the music.
It's a good pick.

Speaker 95 All the music. Had that.

Speaker 85 Music is very important in life.

Speaker 71 Good pick. Love music.

Speaker 3 Zach and I, we both said music when we had our meeting.

Speaker 50 Little twinkle in our eye.

Speaker 14 We were like, this might work out the two of us.

Speaker 28 Zach, what's your favorite music?

Speaker 69 Favorite music, I like rap music, country music, and pop music. Favorite would have to be, depending on the day,

Speaker 69 heavily.

Speaker 69 Today I listen to more rap than country music today.

Speaker 36 Okay, okay.

Speaker 110 Okay, so it's day to day.

Speaker 69 yes, with changing with the mood, but I would like to say music predates language.

Speaker 28 Music is in everyone's hearts and souls, and music is a great one-won.

Speaker 48 Wow, way to go, Zach. That felt good.
I can't confuse it.

Speaker 67 It's in everyone's hearts.

Speaker 66 Oh, God, that's tough.

Speaker 63 That was tough.

Speaker 54 There you go, Zach.

Speaker 26 I told Zach, I was like, hey, how this works is like, we're going to make our pick.

Speaker 3 We've got to give a little bit of rasmataz.

Speaker 96 I didn't think he had that in him.

Speaker 28 What about deaf people, Zach? What about all our deaf listeners out there?

Speaker 17 They can actually feel the vibrations.

Speaker 14 They sit down and

Speaker 85 it changes for them and shit.

Speaker 96 They can feel the beat. Yeah.

Speaker 63 Feel the bass.

Speaker 71 Okay. Good pick.

Speaker 55 You guys have the second pick? No, we have the second pick.

Speaker 80 We are going to go money with our second pick.

Speaker 28 Materialistic. Yep.
That's true. That's fine.

Speaker 48 Yep.

Speaker 37 Money is the root of all evil.

Speaker 55 Money, everything.

Speaker 80 Yeah. Yeah, you guys hate money.
I'm just... Why don't you guys just get rid of all your money over there?

Speaker 48 Listen.

Speaker 82 If you guys don't, if you're trying to take the money, we will take the money.

Speaker 62 PFTNIR, you guys like it.

Speaker 1 PFTI literally trying to one golf vacation at a time for Hank.

Speaker 91 That's a fact.

Speaker 28 We signed the billionaire's pledge.

Speaker 64 Yep.

Speaker 28 If I ever become a billionaire, I will sign that pledge. That's my pledge.

Speaker 96 We had money on our list.

Speaker 28 Yeah, but ours is pretty far down. There's so many more important things in life than mine.

Speaker 28 And it's sad that some people haven't figured that out yet. Okay.

Speaker 28 1-1, we are going to go

Speaker 28 with moms.

Speaker 102 Okay.

Speaker 10 Moms. Mothers.
Most important thing in the world. Shout out moms.

Speaker 101 None of us would be here without our moms.

Speaker 10 Shout out to my mom.

Speaker 79 Love you. Shout out, mom.

Speaker 28 Love you, mom.

Speaker 91 Good pick.

Speaker 28 And our second pick, we're going to go with March Madness. Good pick.
March Madness. Mom's in March Madness.

Speaker 38 Yeah.

Speaker 28 Hank, I love her picks. Same.

Speaker 91 Okay.

Speaker 68 Yeah, I had March Madness high.

Speaker 48 Does it seem like you liked it?

Speaker 74 No, I did.

Speaker 55 I absolutely had it.

Speaker 28 Some people are asking, is Big Cat even like March Madness?

Speaker 17 I would take music before March Madness, but I had March Madness up there.

Speaker 91 Okay. Yeah,

Speaker 96 Mount Rushmore, yeah.

Speaker 91 My favorite week of the year. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 36 You're really tuned in.

Speaker 26 You're really fucking mad.

Speaker 28 We like it so much, we took it with our second pick. Yeah.

Speaker 104 All right, you guys guys are up

Speaker 80 memes memes you got this one when is he gonna take meatballs

Speaker 48 i thought in our pre-meeting i said that i was like he's gonna take meatballs so we're gonna go with movies oh good we had that there's all movies we had that there every movie okay okay

Speaker 60 zach uh that was our second pick overall uh zach

Speaker 37 What are we thinking here?

Speaker 26 I think I like to go I'd like to go seven

Speaker 64 I'd like to go seven.

Speaker 69 Seven's a great pick.

Speaker 82 Yeah.

Speaker 51 And then

Speaker 34 I think we hit him with the Okie Doke and maybe go with our four.

Speaker 69 Two hitters.

Speaker 82 Yeah.

Speaker 98 You want to say him?

Speaker 62 After you, sir. All right.

Speaker 104 I'll start.

Speaker 2 Our next pick is going to be meat.

Speaker 106 All meat. Good pick.
You need meat. We had meat.
Yep.

Speaker 37 Steak, chicken, pork, whatever you want.

Speaker 78 Meat.

Speaker 96 You need meat.

Speaker 101 Zach, go ahead. Caveman fact?

Speaker 84 We don't have a caveman fact.

Speaker 13 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 69 All the meats do,

Speaker 69 yeah. And then we'd also like to take MILFs.

Speaker 91 Yeah, we're going to take MILFs.

Speaker 28 We took moms, but that's fine.

Speaker 72 Yeah, but we specifically would like MILFs. Like hot weeks.

Speaker 58 Okay. We had MILFs on our board.

Speaker 80 I thought we didn't want to go there after moms was picked, but that's fine. Yeah.

Speaker 108 Well, I mean, it's not.

Speaker 48 No, no, no, no, no, that's fine.

Speaker 80 That's fine. That's fine.

Speaker 89 Moms is in the name MILF.

Speaker 2 I understand, but it's...

Speaker 22 Well, it could be man, I love football.

Speaker 10 Which is it?

Speaker 80 It's not.

Speaker 108 They said moms, you just said others.

Speaker 48 You just said certain moms.

Speaker 13 Yeah.

Speaker 67 You're excluding all the moments.

Speaker 69 You're including all the fictitious MILFs as well. Yes.

Speaker 31 Great point, Zach.

Speaker 64 You're including all the fictitious milk.

Speaker 80 MILFS MILFS can't be on there with the money. We live.

Speaker 112 It looks bad because you didn't take it.

Speaker 87 You get every fictitious MILF.

Speaker 113 We didn't take it because they said mom.

Speaker 49 But it's mothers I'd like to fuck.

Speaker 63 What's the first word?

Speaker 63 What's the first word? It's totally different.

Speaker 28 You took mothers.

Speaker 2 You guys are really going to take this away right away?

Speaker 113 I think that's, I think you can't have moms.

Speaker 79 If we took a genre of music like rock music.

Speaker 17 Okay, well, that starts the R.

Speaker 30 That's a good point.

Speaker 40 I mean, that's

Speaker 112 right there.

Speaker 28 Listen, this room is bunked.

Speaker 56 This room has just gotten chaotic without a president.

Speaker 2 You know what?

Speaker 64 We'll pick something else. Where's Pug?

Speaker 4 We'll pick something else after that, after Max did a little crybaby shit.

Speaker 86 Okay.

Speaker 14 Back to the drawing board. That was bullshit.

Speaker 28 I would have said that. I appreciate that, PFT.

Speaker 3 I think you realize there's a difference between moms and MILFs.

Speaker 80 Can you explain to me a MILF?

Speaker 79 Yeah.

Speaker 79 What's the first word?

Speaker 67 One I'd like to fuck.

Speaker 48 Yeah, that's what I think.

Speaker 36 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 68 One I'd like to fuck.

Speaker 2 Oh, so if moms and MILFs are the same, you have a MILF?

Speaker 91 What? What?

Speaker 26 Your mom is a MILF.

Speaker 25 This is.

Speaker 37 Well, you just fucking said the same thing.

Speaker 36 It is a genre of mom.

Speaker 48 It is a genre of mom.

Speaker 22 Not every MILF out there is

Speaker 101 technically a mom. MILF is a mom.

Speaker 62 That's not true.

Speaker 2 Fictitious MILFs are not always moms.

Speaker 28 They're fictitious moms.

Speaker 36 But they're not always moms.

Speaker 77 Astral moms.

Speaker 40 They're fictitious.

Speaker 28 Hank, I'd like to have you put this on the bonk list for big cats.

Speaker 8 That's fine.

Speaker 97 We had memes on our team.

Speaker 113 You don't think that we wanted to take MILFs?

Speaker 55 You should have taken MILFs.

Speaker 28 Memes is an undercover horny guy.

Speaker 1 This is way too early for this to be this contentious.

Speaker 80 I would like to say that don't take a pick that somebody else already took.

Speaker 69 The Oxford's Language Dictionary defines MILF as a sexually attractive woman who has children or is early middle-aged.

Speaker 58 No!

Speaker 48 Interesting.

Speaker 62 That's just by definition.

Speaker 2 That is by definition.

Speaker 22 There's a lot of MILFs there that are not technically moms.

Speaker 114 Your argument falls apart there.

Speaker 28 every MILF is a mother.

Speaker 49 No, but there's no

Speaker 49 money.

Speaker 63 We all watch fucking porn.

Speaker 67 There's a lot of

Speaker 75 yeah, okay.

Speaker 50 So they're MILFs.

Speaker 28 They're fictitious moms.

Speaker 16 They're MILFs and they're Zach

Speaker 5 Good pick.

Speaker 37 Wait, so you're saying, so officially you say that you don't want this pick?

Speaker 58 I mean, it already got taken off.

Speaker 28 Yeah, I know, but you

Speaker 28 stand for something. I said that I would have.

Speaker 36 Stand for allowed.

Speaker 28 Yeah, I would have allowed it.

Speaker 6 So Max is the one that Max is the bad guy, not me.

Speaker 108 Fine. I'm happy to be it.

Speaker 19 All right, Zach, what do we do now?

Speaker 28 For the record, that was an awesome pick.

Speaker 34 It was a great pick.

Speaker 71 And Max is just mad because he didn't pick it.

Speaker 103 And I would have fought for him.

Speaker 80 It was like our first pick, and then I got nervous.

Speaker 28 To be fair, Max got nervous.

Speaker 13 He got nervous.

Speaker 48 Okay.

Speaker 37 All right, so meat is in.

Speaker 26 You got a problem with that?

Speaker 28 No problem.

Speaker 48 Yeah, meat.

Speaker 56 Meat clears.

Speaker 108 Meat plays.

Speaker 84 Okay, meat plays.

Speaker 26 Zach, I don't know what to do now.

Speaker 106 They fucked us.

Speaker 69 We could go.

Speaker 67 You guys just...

Speaker 69 We could go 10?

Speaker 110 No, that's duplicate, Zach.

Speaker 13 Let's see if you take meatballs right now.

Speaker 74 Just get back into the argument.

Speaker 63 Yeah, meat and meatballs.

Speaker 104 All right.

Speaker 26 We're going to go with

Speaker 52 milkshakes.

Speaker 48 Good pig. Milkshakes.

Speaker 10 Cream team.

Speaker 91 Yeah.

Speaker 11 That feels good.

Speaker 69 Strong pig. Yeah.
Okay.

Speaker 80 We're going to go with Michael Jordan.

Speaker 7 Okay.

Speaker 63 Good pick.

Speaker 28 We had Michael Jordan on the list.

Speaker 64 We had him on our list, too.

Speaker 28 All right, so we get two.

Speaker 55 We get two.

Speaker 28 Hank, we can do this.

Speaker 91 I love where we're at.

Speaker 28 I'm going to do the last one.

Speaker 10 Whatever you want to do.

Speaker 28 And then what else do we want on there?

Speaker 10 We'll do that one last. We'll do that one.

Speaker 28 The last one last. Good call.

Speaker 28 We're going to go with mouth stuff.

Speaker 13 So

Speaker 89 this is a PFD pick.

Speaker 63 Mouth stuff. I love it.

Speaker 48 I love it.

Speaker 56 It's a good pick. That's a good pick.

Speaker 30 You don't like mouth stuff. Are you?

Speaker 62 No, mouth stuff's great.

Speaker 2 Are you counting you sucking dick too?

Speaker 28 Well, getting it, yeah.

Speaker 48 Well, I mean, what about mouth stuff? Yeah, giving it to you.

Speaker 49 Giving it to you.

Speaker 56 Giving him mouth stuff.

Speaker 108 No, that's a good point.

Speaker 28 Giving, taking mouth stuff.

Speaker 64 Taking root canals?

Speaker 40 Oh, goodness.

Speaker 63 My boy.

Speaker 76 It's a great point.

Speaker 21 Root canals suck.

Speaker 28 Eden counts as mouth stuff. Yep.

Speaker 48 Getting fish hooked.

Speaker 48 Getting fish hooked.

Speaker 86 Kissing.

Speaker 112 Yep.

Speaker 28 Mouth stuff. And then our last pick, Mr.
Brightside coming on after 10 beers.

Speaker 61 Okay.

Speaker 63 That sounds like music to me.

Speaker 102 Oh, that sounds like music.

Speaker 80 But that's a bad pick, so I'm going to allow you to do it.

Speaker 79 Sounds like music is a bad pick.

Speaker 31 But how is that any different, though? No, it is.

Speaker 80 It's the same exactly.

Speaker 48 Same argument you guys just made against us with Milk.

Speaker 36 But I wanted to take a look at the page.

Speaker 113 You want him to take that pick because it's terrible.

Speaker 13 He can keep the pick.

Speaker 31 There's a difference.

Speaker 10 He's right, though. It is a different thing.

Speaker 22 No, no, no, no.

Speaker 25 The The pick stance. But it's,

Speaker 5 I just wanted to show the hypocrisy in this.

Speaker 36 Well, no, we can't.

Speaker 113 Well, yes, because it's a bad thing.

Speaker 10 You can't allow that. I don't know.
I'm fine with the pick, but

Speaker 93 no, no, the pick's in.

Speaker 36 Yeah, the picks in.

Speaker 91 All right.

Speaker 113 You're arguing against your own pick.

Speaker 36 I'm not. No, I'm not.

Speaker 10 I'm more just like, you can't be the decider on what goes based off it's a good pick or not. That is hypocrisy.
I know.

Speaker 101 Take it off. Take it off.
Take it off.

Speaker 10 I want it. You want to take it off?

Speaker 80 Yeah, let's take it off. It's the same thing as you can.

Speaker 36 You might not see how it's the exact same as MLF.

Speaker 28 No, here's why it's different. Because MILF is...

Speaker 66 No, it's not the same as that.

Speaker 28 Because MILF has the word mother in it. Okay, and Mr.

Speaker 5 Bright said

Speaker 28 it's a song. Oh, yes.

Speaker 75 It's music.

Speaker 91 It's music.

Speaker 55 We took music.

Speaker 28 So if somebody takes music, you can't take anything that makes

Speaker 63 a musical song.

Speaker 86 Correct.

Speaker 36 We took music.

Speaker 28 You guys took mothers.

Speaker 1 I couldn't take MILF's.

Speaker 49 That's because the M in MILF stands for mother, literally.

Speaker 62 But it's a song. It's music.

Speaker 87 It's the same argument.

Speaker 87 This is a reach.

Speaker 74 That's a reach. That is

Speaker 79 the exact same argument.

Speaker 36 It's literally not.

Speaker 28 That's not the same thing at all.

Speaker 69 And MILFs don't have to have kids.

Speaker 90 Yes.

Speaker 1 Thank you, Zach.

Speaker 10 Sorry, we still have a great list.

Speaker 2 You guys can keep the...

Speaker 26 I have no problem with it because.

Speaker 68 Max, should I put on?

Speaker 25 I don't want an asterisk.

Speaker 28 No,

Speaker 2 there's zero asterisks.

Speaker 112 We got a winning board right now.

Speaker 55 There's zero asterisks.

Speaker 28 So I'm going to take it off because I don't want the asterisks.

Speaker 48 Okay.

Speaker 28 You guys fought it. You won.

Speaker 2 No, I didn't. I was just saying it's very funny because it's basically the same thing.

Speaker 26 You win.

Speaker 49 This feels good.

Speaker 80 I just want to say this feels good.

Speaker 28 No, you guys fought it.

Speaker 28 So we'll switch it up. We'll go Mexican food.

Speaker 108 Okay. It's a good one.

Speaker 48 Good pick. Yeah.

Speaker 74 Good pick.

Speaker 10 Deep board. Never a doubt.

Speaker 82 Yeah.

Speaker 28 Lockstep.

Speaker 80 We're going to take McDonald's.

Speaker 47 We had it on there.

Speaker 73 Good pick.

Speaker 59 Good pick. A lot of meat at McDonald's.

Speaker 91 That's fair.

Speaker 86 There's also a lot of meat in Mexican food.

Speaker 63 McDonald's also.

Speaker 63 There is.

Speaker 28 McDonald's. Sounds like mouth stuff.

Speaker 67 I'm sucking it.

Speaker 31 Zach.

Speaker 93 We got to make a final pick.

Speaker 69 You feel strongly about anything in the other category right now?

Speaker 54 The other category is tricky. The other category is tricky.

Speaker 28 We got another category. Yeah, we have it.
Well,

Speaker 68 we tiered it because we were all over the place in our discussion.

Speaker 6 I have some

Speaker 3 funny ideas that Zach threw out there that I was just like, what are you talking about?

Speaker 20 I think 14 is what we just go with.

Speaker 98 Just cover it all.

Speaker 69 Let 14 rape. That's a great.

Speaker 58 Yeah, yeah. Say it.

Speaker 82 It's solid. Yeah.

Speaker 69 We're going to go with magic. Magic.

Speaker 91 We're going to go with magic.

Speaker 26 Just covers everything.

Speaker 24 Yeah, no, Zach, when we sat down, I think one of the first things he said to me was, math.

Speaker 22 He's like, math is the building blocks for everything.

Speaker 56 Dude, you guys went.

Speaker 44 And I was like, I hate math.

Speaker 28 You would add two universal languages. Yeah.

Speaker 80 Maybe you rip our honorable mentions.

Speaker 2 Do you want to hear? Yeah, here's Zach's, and then we can go all honorable mentions.

Speaker 2 We thought about taking men.

Speaker 26 But then we were like, well, what happens if, like, you know, they throw out Hitler and Jeffrey Epstein?

Speaker 98 So that becomes a, you know, all men.

Speaker 1 And then, so, so at at one point, Zach told me, he's like, we should take males. And then he also said we should take mail.

Speaker 68 Like the letter mail.

Speaker 48 The stuff you get. Yeah.

Speaker 63 I was like, okay.

Speaker 69 We use mail all the time. Yeah.

Speaker 48 Yeah. Oh, really?

Speaker 69 Email, physical mail, letters. Yeah.

Speaker 13 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 69 Sweepstakes.

Speaker 25 Sweepstakes.

Speaker 17 Zach also wanted to, he threw out their Matt Damon and Ben Affleck as duo.

Speaker 95 Okay.

Speaker 34 It's a great duo. Mild Wings.

Speaker 53 That would have been bad pick.

Speaker 68 Bad pick. I told him, I was like, that's a good pick for him.

Speaker 36 I like where your heart's at.

Speaker 28 Yeah.

Speaker 48 We were workshopping.

Speaker 31 Yeah, we were workshopping.

Speaker 2 Michelin Star Restaurants.

Speaker 76 Okay.

Speaker 17 Not really for me.

Speaker 17 And then what was the other one?

Speaker 72 Oh, you had Miss Universe, which wasn't a bad pick.

Speaker 91 Yeah. Jordan.

Speaker 15 All right, so what do we got for honorable mentions?

Speaker 28 Hank, you want to say ours?

Speaker 10 This one probably would have got contentious, the Masters.

Speaker 48 Oh. Why?

Speaker 90 Because it's dumb. No, we didn't know.
Oh.

Speaker 34 Somebody would have fought over that. I would not have fought over that.
Max would have fought over that.

Speaker 19 I would have left.

Speaker 80 Max is a very good pick. Yeah, Master's a good pick.

Speaker 10 Me and PFT, we're both in agreement on this, but it probably, it's divisive in today's day and age. Mint chocolate chip ice cream.

Speaker 58 I like mint chocolate chip ice cream.

Speaker 10 Love mint chocolate chip. I love it.

Speaker 79 Yep.

Speaker 91 Yep.

Speaker 10 Marriage.

Speaker 104 Yep.

Speaker 10 Mixed drinks. Yep.
Millennium Falcon.

Speaker 20 Margaritas.

Speaker 28 Margaritas. No, that's a good one.

Speaker 10 Marijuana.

Speaker 48 Yep. Oh.

Speaker 28 Good one. Missed marijuana.

Speaker 58 Well, we had marijuana.

Speaker 60 Yeah.

Speaker 48 Peanuts. Peter Road, Massachusetts.

Speaker 77 Yeah.

Speaker 67 Massachusetts.

Speaker 48 I was just trying to cast my boy Hank up there.

Speaker 47 Did anyone think about masturbation?

Speaker 16 Because we tossed it around.

Speaker 48 We did not have that.

Speaker 36 Zach and I did it a little to each other, and they were like, nah, this isn't for us.

Speaker 28 Cranking off? Yeah.

Speaker 5 Mini golf?

Speaker 91 Yeah.

Speaker 26 How'd you forget that, Hank?

Speaker 40 It's not wow, you don't really know,

Speaker 10 not really. Okay, okay.
Do you think Make It Out would have been better than Mouse Stuff?

Speaker 28 No.

Speaker 10 No?

Speaker 10 Yes.

Speaker 28 Yeah, probably. No, Mouse Stuff is a great pick.

Speaker 72 Middle linebackers?

Speaker 11 Kind of a throwback.

Speaker 28 You also get Will Compton, so. Yeah.

Speaker 26 Oh, Zach had a great one. Zach, throw yours out there.

Speaker 17 Number 13 on our list.

Speaker 3 You thought of this one.

Speaker 64 Oh, a microwave. Yeah.

Speaker 106 Microwave.

Speaker 55 Needed for everything.

Speaker 28 That's a good one. Microwave.

Speaker 28 Yeah. We had motorcycles.

Speaker 3 He got it into his own head, though.

Speaker 14 He was like, but then they could say air fryers better.

Speaker 28 I was like, that's a good point. You're thinking two years ago.

Speaker 72 He is.

Speaker 98 He's got some chess moves going.

Speaker 28 We had mac and cheese. Yep.
Mashed potatoes.

Speaker 96 Yep. Mr.

Speaker 28 Brightside coming on after 10 beers. Yep.

Speaker 53 Muhammad Ali.

Speaker 90 Yep. Good pick.
Messi. Messi huge.

Speaker 28 Messi. Messi is a good pick.
Yep. Yeah, I missed that.
Maradonna.

Speaker 34 We had Miracle on Ice.

Speaker 97 Oh,

Speaker 98 that's a good one.

Speaker 103 Mobile phone?

Speaker 28 Michael Jackson's music.

Speaker 26 What do you guys think about military?

Speaker 28 Every military? Kind of cool.

Speaker 75 ISIS?

Speaker 31 Badass.

Speaker 28 True. You also get ISIS.

Speaker 10 Your guys picks are like based off what society needs to function.

Speaker 101 Very,

Speaker 23 we tossed around machinery.

Speaker 2 We were thinking about just taking every machine ever.

Speaker 108 Do you need machines?

Speaker 68 Shout out Mountain Dew.

Speaker 91 Love

Speaker 69 mids. You know, sometimes you don't want to get too high by trying to just hang out with the boys.

Speaker 64 Now you speak my language.

Speaker 96 Mashing.

Speaker 91 Mashing.

Speaker 115 Good one.

Speaker 91 Fuck.

Speaker 28 Hank put Moneyball.

Speaker 11 Moneyball.

Speaker 85 The book and movie that they did where they just forgot to tell everyone that they had like three of the best starters ever.

Speaker 28 Yep. Oops.

Speaker 2 This is how you build a team off of guys that are cast offs and they get a lot of walks. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 52 Also, you need incredible starting pitches.

Speaker 48 Also, Miguel Tejada.

Speaker 43 Yeah.

Speaker 28 We have the league MVP in Miguel Tejada. We have Tim Hudson, Mark Mulder, and Barry Zito.
But let's talk about Euclid, how he walks somewhere.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he's got a bad body, but he walks.

Speaker 28 This guy walks.

Speaker 73 Figured it out.

Speaker 6 Okay, any other ones?

Speaker 80 Good MLB.

Speaker 34 MLB is

Speaker 46 Mozzarella Sticks.

Speaker 20 Mickey Manle.

Speaker 80 Mickey Manle. That's just a good double M.

Speaker 28 Marilyn Monroe.

Speaker 11 Yep.

Speaker 28 Miley Cyrus.

Speaker 80 Meatballs, obviously.

Speaker 21 Meatballs. I thought you

Speaker 63 had meatballs.

Speaker 5 I thought this whole draft was so you could take meatballs.

Speaker 90 I know.

Speaker 80 I said it to me. I just said dot, dot, dot, meatballs, dot, dot, dot.
And then we just decided that there were.

Speaker 80 There's too many.

Speaker 80 M is a heavy hitter.

Speaker 80 There's some really, really good options out there.

Speaker 50 Mushrooms.

Speaker 101 Mushrooms. Yeah, psychelix, yeah, yeah, big miss.

Speaker 80 I like normal mushrooms, I like

Speaker 80 some sauteed mushrooms as well.

Speaker 2 Uh, Zach, did you have any others that were on the chopping?

Speaker 62 I've got a couple of misdemeanors, just like a little bit of trouble.

Speaker 63 I like that a lot.

Speaker 13 That's great.

Speaker 22 That's actually a good pick that you can spin being like just a tiny bit of trouble.

Speaker 48 Nothing crazy, yeah, they'll get expunged.

Speaker 10 Yeah,

Speaker 91 I've also got uh

Speaker 69 I've got uh

Speaker 69 Melitia Bentes invented invented the coffee filter. I don't know if you guys like caffeine or coffee, but

Speaker 91 probably not inventors.

Speaker 69 Did you know that off-friend?

Speaker 48 Did you throw it? I was researching.

Speaker 71 When we were doing our powwow, did you throw no bad ideas?

Speaker 62 Did you throw Mia Khalifa at one point?

Speaker 58 I did. I did throw Mia Khalifa.

Speaker 69 I started Megan Fox, and then I went Mila Kunes,

Speaker 69 and then I went,

Speaker 69 I was like, a little hotter, and then I went Mia Khalifa.

Speaker 69 My list got a little horny, but I cleaned it up.

Speaker 91 Cleaned it up.

Speaker 60 All right. No, also, hornier the better for Mountain Rushmore.

Speaker 48 Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 37 Horny does play on the graphic. Yeah.

Speaker 50 Yeah, the people like the horny.

Speaker 48 Okay,

Speaker 15 let's get to our interviews.

Speaker 6 We got Ryan Rossill and then NBA champ Isaiah Hartenstein.

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Speaker 2 Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very special guest.

Speaker 14 He's one of our best friends in the whole wide world.

Speaker 20 It is Ryan Rossillo.

Speaker 23 We're going to talk some draft.

Speaker 22 We're going to do a little NBA finals cleanup.

Speaker 25 Ry Guy, that game seven was a bummer.

Speaker 31 Does it feel, let's start here?

Speaker 2 Does it feel like

Speaker 16 the Thunder got a little bit robbed of their moment because of Halliburton's injury?

Speaker 104 Because I felt, I woke up on Monday morning.

Speaker 20 I was like, well, that kind of sucked for the Thunder.

Speaker 26 Like, I know they don't care, but still, the big conversation coming out of game seven was like, what if Halliburton doesn't get hurt?

Speaker 7 Yeah, that's all fair, but I really think this is when we're at our worst talking about this stuff, like the next 24, 48 hours. It happens in the Super Bowl all the time.

Speaker 7 No, you're really good about it, PFT. We actually brought that up last night.
Zach Lowe mentioned that.

Speaker 42 But

Speaker 7 it's just so hard to win a championship. It's so hard.

Speaker 7 And the way we treat some of these guys at the very top of the game without a championship, and some of it's on them, and some of it's just circumstance. So

Speaker 7 whenever a team wins,

Speaker 7 I'm not really necessarily in a hurry to try to figure out all the ways that it's not as valuable as other championships.

Speaker 7 Because I was thinking about this the other day, and this is already some real spiritual thought stuff, but

Speaker 7 we're not impressed by anything anymore.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 7 And I was looking at some stand-up comedian was doing this whole bit about this game called Crossfire.

Speaker 7 And they ran the whole ad, and it was this game where, like, ball bearings, you're just shooting them at the other guy.

Speaker 7 And if there were these fidget spinners, and if you had enough, like, went over to him, then it was like, you won the game. All right.

Speaker 7 And the thing probably broke, it probably sucked, probably weren't great. But like, I just remember being a kid thinking, holy shit, like, my life is going to suck if I don't have that.

Speaker 7 Now, maybe that's marketing. Maybe that's just being young and being super impressionable.
But now I feel like we've seen so much stuff. Okay.

Speaker 7 There is so much stuff that happens just on any given day that we're really difficult to be impressed by anything. And it's actually, I kind of missed being impressed by things.

Speaker 7 And now it's, I don't even know if that's real, right? Is that really a dog scuba diving? Who knows?

Speaker 37 Oh, I saw that video.

Speaker 82 Yep.

Speaker 36 I saw that video.

Speaker 7 And immediately you were like, fake, which I appreciate because now I don't have to, you know, cross-reference this whole thing. So when a team wins a championship, I think it's really, really hard.

Speaker 7 I understand what you guys are saying because it's like, all right, he goes down.

Speaker 7 The crazy thing is I thought in the first half, OKC was more affected negatively than the Pacers were because it was almost like the Thunder just sleepwalking through the game, expecting to win, expecting to win at home.

Speaker 7 Their best player is out. And it took them, I don't know, like another 45 minutes to an hour to wake up and then put together that great third quarter.
So

Speaker 7 my default position is usually like, let's remind ourselves how hard it is to do this and how much we beat up on the people and teams that never get here.

Speaker 36 Yeah, and I agree 100%.

Speaker 17 Like the Thunder, incredible season, wire to wire.

Speaker 14 Shay had maybe the best season.

Speaker 68 Like when you stack it all up, like one of the top 10 seasons, if you want to call it, all time.

Speaker 26 They're so good.

Speaker 2 It was more like I was so geared up for a game seven that it wasn't taking away from Thunder.

Speaker 17 It's like, man, I really wish that game had seen Tyrese Halliburton in the end.

Speaker 68 Let's do it real quick, though.

Speaker 26 What impresses you in sports right now?

Speaker 20 Let's do this, the spin zone.

Speaker 2 Me, Savannah Bananas. How do they keep doing it?

Speaker 8 Who's their choreographer paula abdul

Speaker 70 no our guy cal rowley impresses me he was here the fact he's got 31 home runs as a catcher that's like i think if he gets 60 home runs it's gonna be like holy shit he's crazy big ass yeah baseball player assumes leg day no even like for a baseball player it's it's out there yeah okay but i look your guy sammy souser he is back in the good graces of the city of Chicago, perhaps long overdue, right?

Speaker 7 I was thinking about him because it was like news, right? And they're welcoming back first time in 21 years. When I first started ESPN, we were cutting into his home runs still.
All right.

Speaker 7 And that was like a normal programming thing.

Speaker 7 And then I think wherever he was getting like close to 600, like somebody that was still kind of manning the decisions on the weekend department was like, hey, we got to make sure we go live.

Speaker 8 And all the hosts were like, why?

Speaker 7 Like, no one gives a shit anymore. And especially like post all of the steroid stuff that baseball went through in the late 90s, early 2000s, like no one cared.

Speaker 7 And yet you mentioned anybody now chasing 60 home runs. And again, it went decades before we had seen it until the late 90s.

Speaker 7 So maybe it's a simple math thing with baseball, but I think generally, like, we're not impressed with much. You want to know what I'm impressed with today?

Speaker 64 I'll tell you a story.

Speaker 48 Okay.

Speaker 7 I was ready to attack this week. I was so fired up.
I wanted to actually do this podcast from the boat, but the charts just told me it was probably not a great decision. And,

Speaker 7 you know, safety is the first thing you're thinking about. Number one.

Speaker 8 Not women.

Speaker 7 Yeah, not women with a boat.

Speaker 42 So

Speaker 7 I went to the gym because, like, right now is my Tuesday. I got after this Monday so hard, so fucking hard to start the day.
Prepped a bunch of stuff, Aaron's phone calls, adult stuff.

Speaker 7 And then Matt Leinert was at the gym. I went really early.
He's a dad, so I'm sure he wanted to get out of the house. And he's got this buddy who's jacked.

Speaker 7 And I was doing shoulders. And then he put on 365

Speaker 7 and was like, Rasillo,

Speaker 7 you want in on this? And I had to say no because I can't do it. And it was, it was like, that's, I'm not used to that happening to me there.
And he just alpha the fuck out of me.

Speaker 7 And then I watched him because, you know, really, I would come up with a clothing line. It says, focus on your own reps, but I had to sneak a peek, like being in the urinal.

Speaker 7 I had to look, and it was just filthy. That impressed me today.
And I knew it was real.

Speaker 28 That's huge. That's huge.
I'm impressed by you saying no, safety first. Yeah.
The old Ryan would have been like, fuck it, I'll put that up. You would have tried.

Speaker 117 No,

Speaker 7 I know my limits. That's a little north of me.

Speaker 28 So what impresses you right now in the NBA? Things you actually like.

Speaker 7 Sam Presty.

Speaker 38 Yeah.

Speaker 37 Incredible story.

Speaker 2 I mean, the fact that he's been this good for this long and then finally gets his championship.

Speaker 20 And what, he's 47 years old?

Speaker 16 Like, that's, he's got so much in front of him and he's got a shitload of picks.

Speaker 7 Yeah, Carker Carlisle. Shout out.

Speaker 7 I love that he now officially, officially, in the way we like talk about players and coaches and stuff, it's like, well, if he was that good, and everybody that knew about what this guy is doing and how he was just a step ahead of everybody,

Speaker 7 everybody knew he was probably the best guy doing it, but now it's official. Like we get to say it.

Speaker 7 And for me, like who finds some of the stuff stupid, I'm glad we can eliminate that stupid part of it because he's been incredible.

Speaker 7 And when you think about the draft, I mean, the SGA thing works out beyond anybody's even belief in SGA.

Speaker 7 It's amazing how many times in life, like you're faced with this really difficult challenge where Paul George wants out, and it's like the best thing that can ever happen to the Thunder because the Clippers are willing to do anything to guarantee that they're also getting Kawhi, which, you know, you revisit that one.

Speaker 7 No one had a problem with that at the time. And then you nail the Chet and Jalen Williams pick in the same draft.

Speaker 7 And then within two years, even though Chet was up and down in the finals, he was great defensively last night, Jalen Williams, I still think will be probably a more consistent offensive player.

Speaker 7 And then to build this all out, it's like, okay, what was the problem last year? All right, well, let's get Giddy out of here because nobody wants to defend him in the playoffs.

Speaker 7 Let's bring in a spacing demon on defense in Caruso. He hires Dagnolt.
He's got the Spurs background stuff.

Speaker 14 He is

Speaker 7 a special, special person as far as it comes to building a roster.

Speaker 7 And I'm just glad he can now officially get a ring where imagine if you told Thunder fans like in 2012 with that group that lost in five games in Miami Heat with Durant, with Surge, with Hardin, with Westbrook.

Speaker 7 And you're like, actually, this is the best it's ever going to get.

Speaker 91 Yeah.

Speaker 28 I like that. So it's good to have something that we're actually positive about.
What if we did the opposite, though? And we said,

Speaker 28 how disappointing would this have been for the Thunder if they had lost? Yeah. If they had lost,

Speaker 28 like, Halliburton gets injured, Pacers up at halftime, Pacers close it out. How disappointed are you in the Oklahoma City Thunder?

Speaker 7 Very. Yeah.
Because I don't.

Speaker 39 Frauds? Yeah. Worst loss ever.

Speaker 7 Presty overrated.

Speaker 8 How about bringing somebody into some emotion?

Speaker 28 Yeah, come on, man.

Speaker 56 You had the opportunity to

Speaker 30 make a move.

Speaker 55 You know what?

Speaker 28 Not to go all ESPN on you. Presty needs to step up.

Speaker 38 Yeah.

Speaker 7 Look, I mean, you want to do a draft of the guys on TV that would spend this week being like, here's the 10 guys I would take over Presty right now. Yeah.

Speaker 7 So

Speaker 7 look, the funniest thing, like I wrote this down last night when we did the Bill and Zach thing.

Speaker 7 OKC during the playoffs, their rebounding rate was 11th out of 16 teams. Defensive rebounding rate was even worse than that.
Their assist ratio was 11th.

Speaker 7 Three-point shooting, they were 13th or 14th out of 16 teams. They fouled at the third highest rate.

Speaker 7 They had, I think, nine games at like 31, 30% or under from three-point range, and they went five and four in those nine games.

Speaker 7 This team to do this, to win a title, was some of those things that's like, I thought you guys could shoot. Like, what the hell's going on? Their defense was actually that special.

Speaker 7 So, I would have probably gone, eh, maybe you need a little bit more shooting or shooters that can show up, shooters that can show up on the road because that's what the pacers are doing.

Speaker 7 They're just like, fine. Game six, everybody stays with SGA, cheat off of everybody else, stop SGA, hope he doesn't pass, and we don't think any of those guys are going to make enough shots.

Speaker 7 And that's exactly what happened in game six. They hoped it would happen in game seven.
SGA adjusted he passed better, but it was funny because PFT, I was thinking, like, if they lose this,

Speaker 7 you love love this roster, you love Presti, you love what they've done, but then you're going to do an off-season to-do list for a team that won 68 games and had the highest point differential ever.

Speaker 3 Yeah, just the fact that they shot that bad is, I saw someone talking about it today, and I don't know if you, you know, the inner workings of the Oklahoma City Thunder better than we do, but they said they have an analytics department that basically, like, two of their big things are trying to figure out the trends in where the league's going in terms of like what's valuable, what's not, and then also just trying to figure out who's going to suck in four years and then getting their picks.

Speaker 2 And I was like, I read that.

Speaker 62 I was like, well, that's genius. Why aren't more teams doing that?

Speaker 2 Just like, let's just collect the picks for the teams that we expect to suck soon and they'll be very good assets.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I know that, you know, they seem to really prioritize they're incredibly private, first of all, like the most private probably group ever. I,

Speaker 7 you know, I've joked that I've seen Presty at the Combine. You know, again, when I used to do it, I don't, I don't know that it happens now, but like he wouldn't even stand near anybody else.

Speaker 7 Like, normally, this is a pretty social event. You know, you don't, just because you're sitting near someone doesn't mean to be like, hey, I actually really want to trade this player.

Speaker 7 And he wouldn't even stand near anybody else. Woj introduced us years ago, about the same age, both for mass,

Speaker 7 some similar interests. And I was like, hey, what's going on? And it was like, no way.

Speaker 63 Like, you asked me a basketball question, you dick.

Speaker 7 And I was like, all right, you know,

Speaker 7 lesson learned on this one.

Speaker 7 But I do think that there's a lot of truth, big cat, in what you said.

Speaker 7 I mean, you know, if we sat around for a half an hour and tried to predict which team's picks are going to be more valuable moving forward, we could probably come up with a little bit of a list here.

Speaker 7 You know, it could be perhaps a little overstated, but there's also something to be said that he was on the competition committee, Presti, I believe.

Speaker 7 And like he knew once they were putting in some of the second apron stuff that it was going to mean, it was going to mean way more to just be able to draft replacements for guys that got more expensive.

Speaker 7 Because we kept waiting around going, when are they going to package these picks? When are they going to package?

Speaker 7 And if they had lost, if they had blown game seven, you know, maybe they don't get to the NBA Finals, say, then you're going to be like, does this mean they give like the godfather offer to the Bucs for Giannis, just going like, hey, this is how we have to do it.

Speaker 7 That's how the NBA has operated in the past.

Speaker 7 And I remember somebody explaining to me, like, it's going to be a bit more like continuing to flip the picks forward so that you always have that flexibility and then drafting potentially like a replacement for somebody who goes north of 20 million, who's your fourth or fifth option.

Speaker 7 So that may be the strategy more so than like, hey, when are you going to trade all those picks?

Speaker 7 Because if they had lost, can you imagine? It's like, hey, cool picks.

Speaker 48 Right.

Speaker 7 And yet they're still a really good team had they blown game seven.

Speaker 50 Yeah.

Speaker 28 So we wanted to do just an hour and a half with you about Kevin Durant and what this means for his legacy, that he goes to the Houston Rockets. We can cut that down to 45 minutes if you'd like.

Speaker 28 But from your perspective, how does this fit work?

Speaker 28 Because we were watching the NBA Finals yesterday, and the Kevin Durant news breaks over the weekend, and it feels like a lot of people were just spending time analyzing that trade instead of appreciating a game seven in the NBA Finals that we have right now.

Speaker 28 But looking ahead, you think that the Rockets got a whole lot better? You think it's a good fit?

Speaker 7 Yeah, I think it's a great fit for him.

Speaker 7 Minnesota was my favorite fit for him just because I still think he could have gone to Minnesota and kind of draft off the attention of Anthony Edwards, where at this stage, if you're asking Durant, who's going to turn 37 in September, to come in and fix you, I don't know if he's that guy.

Speaker 7 I mean, he wasn't that guy in Phoenix. It looked like he was flirting with being that guy in Brooklyn, but then he soured there.

Speaker 7 So if you go back to that Houston series, like Houston was the two seed, and they had the weirdest stat clutch stuff where they had all of these clutch wins, but their clutch offense still sucked.

Speaker 7 It was really weird.

Speaker 7 Now, we know they're a really good defensive team, but you look at that kind of thing and you're like, is that something that's going to bite you in the ass the last five minutes of a tight playoff game?

Speaker 7 Because you don't really feel great about who your number one scoring option is. And they would have loved for it to men Jalen Green.

Speaker 7 He's given four years of rope here, high usage rate, like just go out there.

Speaker 7 And even though Jalen Green certainly has his moments because he's a really talented player, he was not that guy against Golden State.

Speaker 7 And I don't want to completely like write him off as a player because of a bad series and his first playoff taste, but it just wasn't very good. Then you've got Van Vliet like scrambling around.

Speaker 7 and he put up some huge numbers against Golden State, but you could just see like they need something else on the wing that they can really depend on and considering they don't have to trade jabari they don't have to trade tari a men's a non-starter no reed shepherd in the deal like

Speaker 7 and they i think got rid of the less favorable pick so i love the trade for houston their gm stone is on an absolute heater now i mean every single move this guy makes it seems like usually you're just going to get one wrong because of the way sports work so they didn't pay a ton They're obviously probably going to have to extend him.

Speaker 7 I think Durant's happier in Houston than some of the other options.

Speaker 7 So, you know, the thing I did like about Minnesota is that he could probably allow Ant to still be the focal point of all of the attention, where in Houston, a lot is going to be expected of him, but he's desperately what they needed on offense.

Speaker 7 Like, go get us those closing playoff moment buckets.

Speaker 28 See, I have the opposite take. I think Phoenix got a whole lot better.
I love what they're building down at Phoenix. Build the whole thing out of that.

Speaker 64 I love that.

Speaker 28 They got the big four, is what they're calling it.

Speaker 28 I think Bradley Beal is poised for a breakout season.

Speaker 55 Yeah.

Speaker 39 Where?

Speaker 28 It's got to be in Phoenix.

Speaker 25 It's got to be in Phoenix.

Speaker 28 Is that the worst no-trade clause ever given to a player? We said yesterday that his name has now become Bradley Beal's no trade clause. Because anytime you say his name, it's always in that context.

Speaker 28 Is that the worst no-trade clause ever given out?

Speaker 7 Yeah, I mean, it's got to be. I mean, because he's just so checked out.
He's totally, I think the scary thing about him is that, you know, I think anybody.

Speaker 7 You think, like, if you're this good, then there has to be some competitive pride in you. And he may have the least.

Speaker 7 There may be the biggest gap between just talent and how much he doesn't care of any.

Speaker 7 Like, they tried to bench him and bring him off the bench, like, hoping, hey, if we make this really ugly, will he actually say, hey, I want out of here?

Speaker 7 And then I had heard it's like, no, he just loves Phoenix. A lot of guys love the Phoenix area.

Speaker 8 He loves it.

Speaker 28 He might love his life. He might actually be the happiest guy in the NBA.
Talk about it.

Speaker 63 Every player is going to be a lot more. I think you're onto something.

Speaker 90 Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 He might be the happiest dude.

Speaker 63 Yeah.

Speaker 26 Do you subscribe to my theory that Matt Ishbia was like, we know we're not going to get a lot for Kevin Durant, but if you just like make the second round picks five of them, everyone's going to look at the tweet and be like, holy shit, that's a lot of picks.

Speaker 7 I just see Hinky Substack. He was like, this is great.

Speaker 7 Look at all these second rounders.

Speaker 8 Yeah. I'm kidding.

Speaker 2 But it was like, you see five second round picks.

Speaker 4 You're like, oh, man, that's a lot of picks.

Speaker 16 And you're like, wait a second, they're second-round picks.

Speaker 28 This means nothing.

Speaker 2 He should have asked for like 15.

Speaker 7 There was a stretch where it felt like so many writers just love second-round picks. You're like, look at all the flexibility.

Speaker 7 You're like, look at the historical data of how often these guys, you know, learn China buddies.

Speaker 7 Speaking of, though, Dylan Brooks, who, again, was like, that guy got 80 million after people were laughing about him being out of the league. And he deserves the contract that he got.

Speaker 7 And he actually matters because he's got some edge to him. Theory, working theory, they brought in Dylan Brooks just to match up against Beale in practice.
Oh,

Speaker 44 to piss him off, get that dog back in him.

Speaker 28 Reignite the fire. Yeah.

Speaker 90 Or ask out.

Speaker 48 Or Or ask out.

Speaker 31 I'm like, I can't deal with this guy.

Speaker 26 Good point.

Speaker 28 Yeah, that's actually, I like that theory a lot.

Speaker 28 If you can't force the guy to be traded, just make him hate his job so much that he's going to play anywhere else.

Speaker 7 Yeah, like they signed, like, hey, we just signed Thanassis, and he's going to shadow you on the court and off the court. Yeah.
And Beal's just like, I'm not going to, I can't, I can't do this.

Speaker 7 All right, now you've got me. I want to go back to the Wizards where I'm comfortable.

Speaker 28 Well, I actually think that there is some truth to the fact that playing for the Wizards organization historically, it will suck the life out of your desire to be great at basketball. It just will.

Speaker 28 You're going to end up not caring as soon as you get through like one season there.

Speaker 7 So, you're telling me you're selling your Alex Sarr and Bub Carrington stock?

Speaker 28 No, I like Bub. I like Bub a lot.
And I was almost a die-hard Wizards fan for the NBA draft lottery.

Speaker 8 If it looked like Kulabali,

Speaker 28 if we're going to get a Cooper flag, I was in. But now, and maybe we can transition into NBA draft talk a little bit.
Now I'm thinking Ace Bailey might be the perfect fit. He wants to go somewhere.

Speaker 26 He's the guy where he's

Speaker 28 the superstar.

Speaker 28 Maybe the Wizards might be the perfect fit. So tell us what's going on with Ace Bailey and why has he dropped so much in this draft?

Speaker 7 I think the NBA draft, the players are a lot like a movie that you hear about ahead of time. Like draft.

Speaker 42 Right.

Speaker 28 And I'm. Yeah, it's a good comp.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 Costner's best movie?

Speaker 56 Yeah. Maybe.
I'd say easily.

Speaker 28 I always say if that movie didn't have the licensing for the official NFL logos, it might be the worst movie of all time.

Speaker 28 But because because they had like Cleveland Browns, Jacksonville Jaguars, I'm watching and I'm like, I'm pretty much watching football right now.

Speaker 64 This is awesome. Yeah, they do the flyover of the stadiums.

Speaker 48 You're like, dude, this rocks.

Speaker 86 Football.

Speaker 16 You would, I don't know if you understand the references we just did as we're football guys.

Speaker 68 Yeah.

Speaker 7 Yeah, no, I saw you guys. You were like, oh my God, so many weekends before college football.
I'm losing my mind. It's like, you guys, no, I'm like, some people like football.

Speaker 84 You guys really like football.

Speaker 39 I love football.

Speaker 7 It's so cool.

Speaker 63 Anyway,

Speaker 55 see you're getting a little too snarky like you i can tell you don't actually really love football you would have made that joke if you really loved it i don't like it as much as you guys do that's true don't forget that yeah

Speaker 7 i i've never questioned it

Speaker 28 all right so yeah so ace bailey why why is he going from being like second or third pick to now we're thinking he might be fifth sixth

Speaker 7 Glad you asked, PFT. This is the movie thing.

Speaker 7 There ever been a a movie in your life you're like, this movie sucks. And you're like, what? Does it? It's terrible.

Speaker 7 And you go in thinking everybody that you know, even if a couple of people that you trust, I mean, there's some people that were friends with who are like, if you don't like something, then I know I will like it.

Speaker 7 Ace Bailey feels like this movie that, and I'm late to it. I've explained to you guys, and just to remind the audience, like, I can't do the draft stuff year-round.
I love it.

Speaker 7 It's my favorite week of the year. So I get crash course into all this stuff and watch as much as I can.
I go to the combine and all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 7 So, you know, you just heard so so many people trashing him that I went into the theater going like, this guy's going to suck. He's good.

Speaker 7 He is.

Speaker 7 I think the conversation around him with Sharif Cooper's dad repping him and, you know, this being a bit abnormal where a lot of teams are really pissed about the way they're treating this process.

Speaker 7 And

Speaker 7 who's to know? Like, are they trying to navigate this thing to get Bailey?

Speaker 7 from three to say six because they feel like there's a ton of shots and ton of points and traditional counting stats for him so that when he's extended in four years, he's going to make back all the money that he loses dropping a few slots.

Speaker 7 You know, Brooklyn would be like significant from going three to eight. But when you watch him, like, sure, we can go over the bad stuff.
There's plenty of shots.

Speaker 7 You're like, what the hell were you doing there? I think I saw one game where he had two shots where his heels were on the three-point line.

Speaker 7 There's times where one play I saw him, just three guys are right in his face, and he's in the triple threat. And he like wants to drive, he wants to drive.

Speaker 82 And you're like, well, you're not going to drive.

Speaker 36 There's nowhere to go.

Speaker 7 There's nowhere to go right now. It's like, yeah, I'm going to drive.
But I watched the Bama game from November this morning.

Speaker 7 And there's just a lot of stuff this guy can do at 6'8 that's really impressive. And it's not like he's just a 6'8 project, right? This isn't like Salon, who goes last year in the top 10.

Speaker 7 This is somebody that...

Speaker 7 You know, the high-end shot making is really impressive. It's not necessarily like Trey Johnson, Texas, who could go ahead of him.

Speaker 7 But I feel like all of the conversation around Ace and the Rutgers season being a disaster and Harper clearly being the number two guy, so that means Ace and is as good.

Speaker 7 Like, I'm not telling you, he's perfect. It seemed like he didn't love playing off the ball as much as he had to because Harper was just so good.

Speaker 7 And the more and more you watch Harper, you're just like, all right, I totally get it. Like, he's got all this NBA scoring stuff down already to the high pick and roll.

Speaker 7 But I feel like Ace has become far more damaged.

Speaker 7 probably because of the handling of this.

Speaker 7 And apparently, unless there's a secret workout, being the only American prospect that hasn't worked out or shown up to visit with anybody, which is just unheard of.

Speaker 28 So why is he doing that? Has his camp made any statements about it? Like, this is why we're approaching the draft in this way. And I know it's weird, but here's our strategy.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I think because Philly, you know, landing the number three pick is weird. Like, we can all sit here and say, like, well, they need to trade it because of the timeline and what they're facing.

Speaker 7 And granted, like, if you're a Sixers fan right now, you should probably feel much better about your place in the East, considering all the guys that are going down and the injuries that that we've had throughout the playoffs.

Speaker 7 And, you know, you include Dame too at the end, but

Speaker 7 you look at Ace Bailey or even a Vijay and you're like, how does this guy play for a Sixers team? Well, the way he plays is probably because one of the Sixers guys are going to get hurt.

Speaker 7 So you throw him out there anyway. But I just can't imagine like Nick Nurse trusting a ton of possessions with Ace Bailey, where if he's on Brooklyn and there's no one else,

Speaker 7 and you're like, okay, that's buckets. New Orleans, you know, Trey Murphy's still a preferred option over Ace Bailey at this point.

Speaker 7 There just seems like there's more room for him for touches where it feels like the camp was afraid that if he ended up in Charlotte with Lamello and Miller already there,

Speaker 7 Utah should be plenty of room, but there's a ton of guys that they've drafted and a lot of on-the-ball guards.

Speaker 7 Like maybe they're simply looking at this as the vacancy of other people that would get in his way.

Speaker 7 And that has to be the reason behind it because it doesn't really make a lot of sense of why you try to be going fifth or eighth instead of third.

Speaker 78 Yeah.

Speaker 31 All right, The Duke guys,

Speaker 72 Malouak, Cooper Flag, Conknipple.

Speaker 78 They're going to go, what, like all three of them maybe go by, what, seven, eight?

Speaker 26 What's the ceiling for all these guys? And is it high enough that they can go down as like the how did they not win a championship team? Because that's all I'm rooting for.

Speaker 63 Like, I watched, can you believe that? They can win it all?

Speaker 20 That's crazy.

Speaker 7 You want to hear something funny? I watched the Houston game again,

Speaker 7 and I took a picture of when they had the ball up, what, 67, 61 with 58 seconds left, 57 seconds left.

Speaker 7 And we already know the outcome because we all watched the game. And even when I was re-watching it months later, I'm thinking, they lost this.
Yeah.

Speaker 8 It was awesome.

Speaker 7 I almost posted the picture and said they lost this game. And then we had John Shire confirmed for like two days later.
And I was like, all right,

Speaker 7 I can't do that. Smart.

Speaker 86 No, Shire.

Speaker 63 That's a fact.

Speaker 48 They did lose that game.

Speaker 2 They did lose that game.

Speaker 37 But how good are these guys?

Speaker 13 Like, I think they're all really, really good.

Speaker 16 Obviously, we know Cooper Flag.

Speaker 22 I think Con Knipple is like, he's going to be very good pro.

Speaker 16 And Maluak, his size is like, he kind of fits that new NBA where he could run with anyone and he could protect the rim.

Speaker 2 So is it, are all three of these guys like no doubt, hey, you're going to get a really good player out of them?

Speaker 7 I like all three guys a lot. I think Cooper Flag, the Jesus comps, seem a little

Speaker 28 outrageous.

Speaker 7 Maybe Tom Chambers. Chambers?

Speaker 7 Not Jesus? No.

Speaker 7 Like Cooper, the only thing that you would say, and I asked Shire this, and of course, like he was going to say, the other stuff that this guy did in practice, like, don't even worry about it, is you go, okay, if you're taking somebody number one and he's supposed to be the face of a franchise in like four or five years, that also means that he's the number one scoring option, likely.

Speaker 7 You know, granted, there are some players that are a little bit more unique. But I mean, is he going to have that kind of offensive game?

Speaker 7 And I think the people that are around him, whether it it was high school and this year at Duke, they're like, he could do more of that stuff if he wanted to, but he actually is like a really willing teammate and passer and speaks to all the other guys that he want to get involved.

Speaker 7 So every time you watch Cooper, like the biggest thing, too, is it's not just the size, the athleticism, his anticipation, the defense.

Speaker 7 I mean, it's just his passing, all this stuff is that he's a real like competitor. Like it's not a joke.
He's not telling you that he wants to win.

Speaker 7 He is expressing to you the urgency with which he plays basketball, how bad he he wants to win. And so it's hard to not just pay attention to him when you're just watching a Duke game.

Speaker 7 And then I went back and did the Knipple tape and I thought like, oh, yeah, you know, he'll probably be, you know, in that, in that five to eight range or something like that, because he's big.

Speaker 7 He scored a lot, scored even more in high school. He had a defer a little bit.
I'll tell you, after really digging into him, I am so incredibly impressed with the way this guy sees the game.

Speaker 7 His off-ball cutting, how he's setting up defenders off the ball.

Speaker 7 Like the best way I could describe him is that if you have Knipple on your team and then you just pick whoever the other four are, he would look at who the other four guys are, figure out what they needed, and then he would play.

Speaker 7 He would adapt his game to who the other four guys that he was sharing a floor with. And he showed that when Flag was out.
He showed it when Flag was obviously in. And he is so smart.

Speaker 7 Like Vijay's got probably more motherfucker in him. Trey Johnson makes the most like NBA impressive level shots, but I think Knipple's approach to the game.

Speaker 7 is the thing that's the most impressive from him.

Speaker 7 So I don't know if that's enough for him to go ahead of Vijay and go number three, but it seems impossible that he would go outside of three, four, and five.

Speaker 7 Uh, and then Malowatch, you know, he hasn't played the game for a really long time, and as much as it feels like he's just this incredible lob threat, two things really stood out.

Speaker 7 Uh, he had a switch in a college game where the point guard hadn't played, like, they didn't know the skyring port on Malowatch at all.

Speaker 7 And he switches, he gets him in the switch, like, all right, here we go. Like, the guard's gonna go right past this big guy.

Speaker 7 Malowatch stays in front of him by moving his feet, it's not even his wingspan. Like, the guard couldn't do anything and was like freaked because you could just like, what the fuck was this?

Speaker 7 Like, I can't go around this guy.

Speaker 7 So it feels like Knipples in that three to five range. Malowatch, you know, some people say the floor is Toronto,

Speaker 7 unless they're going to go with SNG, which is somebody from France who I don't like all that much, but he just fell down a lot. So you know how I get about those players, even when they're good.

Speaker 7 I'm like, stop falling down all the time.

Speaker 7 But those three guys are really special prospects. But yeah, Big Cat, you're going to be right.
You're going to be able to say, how did that team not win a title?

Speaker 20 It's going to be awesome.

Speaker 28 It's going to be awesome. It's going going to be like looking at the old Oklahoma City Thunder.

Speaker 64 Same thing. You're right.
Except those guys.

Speaker 7 Well, I mean, who left quicker? The freshman?

Speaker 82 Yeah.

Speaker 7 So. Yeah.
I mean, those guys are still, Durant and Westbrook were still running things in 2016.

Speaker 101 All ended up being Rockets.

Speaker 7 Is that one in a draft?

Speaker 44 What?

Speaker 7 Should the Rockets sign Serge Yabaka?

Speaker 80 Yes.

Speaker 40 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 49 Get the game going.

Speaker 48 All ended up being Rockets.

Speaker 82 I kind of like that, yeah.

Speaker 28 What about Jeremiah Fears?

Speaker 28 Because like a month ago, if you'd asked me who would I want on my team, I was feeling, I like watching Jeremiah Fears play, the way that he controls the game at point guard.

Speaker 28 Are we hearing that he's going to slip a little bit?

Speaker 7 No, there's a lot of people that think that Utah would take him as far as like, can you get past the defender? And there's a lot of guys that think they can that are like big-time scorers and come in.

Speaker 7 with all the accolades and he's another one like Cooper that reclassified so he should have been a senior in high school this year and he comes in and no one can stay in front of him.

Speaker 7 Like nobody can stay in front of him. And some of the stuff that he does, the anticipation of the passing is really special.

Speaker 7 So if you're in the room and you're arguing, hey, this guy has a chance, because this will happen a lot with the draft, which we always have to remind ourselves of, is like you're sitting there at seven or eight, you're like, okay, this guy's a better player.

Speaker 7 We know he could probably be in the rotation with us. It's a safer pick, but we can't get any stars in free agency.
We can't trade for anybody. Nobody wants to come to our city.
Is there a chance?

Speaker 7 Is there a chance that this person develops into somebody that like becomes an elite level scorer where maybe he makes an all-star game because a couple other guys ask out of it?

Speaker 7 Yeah, I could see that Fears conversation. I could see that being part of the conversation for Fears.
A lot of people do think Utah likes him, but if you wanted to shit on him, you go, okay, cool.

Speaker 7 He's really small. He

Speaker 7 turned it over more than any other player in the SEC. He shot 28% from three last year.
I looked at his high school stats. Again, high school stats, I can't believe it's 2025.

Speaker 7 We can't have a better database for this kind of stuff. But from what I could find, and then double-checking some of the stuff, like he wasn't over 30% from three there either.

Speaker 7 So I'm usually not in a hurry to be like, hey, small guard can't shoot, turns it over a ton, probably can't defend anybody. Yeah, let's go.
Number five, hand in the cart.

Speaker 1 So Jeremiah Fear's ceiling is Tyler Huntley.

Speaker 7 I would say a more better condition.

Speaker 63 Pro bowler.

Speaker 7 Better conditioned. Okay.

Speaker 86 Okay.

Speaker 52 Yeah, I mean, he's awesome.

Speaker 22 The shooting thing, like, how bad.

Speaker 2 Let me ask you this. If you're a team and you talk to these guys, like, is there some level of, hey, we can figure out a way to get him to shoot better?

Speaker 22 Or is it like your shot kind of is your shot?

Speaker 20 And it's, it's, you're not going to all of a sudden go from a 25% three-point shooter to, oh, man, you're hitting 39%.

Speaker 7 Yeah, most people will tell you you can work on it. Like, if you want to figure this out, like a golf swing, you can probably get better at it.

Speaker 7 And, you know, percentages can be misleading too, because there are NBA shooters who put up a really nice percentage, but they can only shoot in like one scenario.

Speaker 7 where it's the muscle memory is down. It's the catch, there's no dribble, it's from like one spot where they're comfortable.
And actually, there's incredible value in just that.

Speaker 7 But then there's other guys that can shoot from anywhere, can shoot on the catch, shoot off the dribble. They can calibrate their body and change the shot based on like what they think they need.

Speaker 7 And that's, that's like the real elite stuff. So, you know, there's times where I look at percentages for traffic prospects, and I'll think the player is actually like a good shooter.

Speaker 7 Like Dylan Harper shot 33% from three this year.

Speaker 117 All right.

Speaker 7 He's going to be better than the 33% shooter because a lot of the shots were, hey, we're not that good. I'm a five-star.
I'm the big deal. I'm the number one option.

Speaker 7 Like some of these kids, I don't really blame them. Like they're in love with taking some, hey, take a look at this three-pointer.
I mean, you know, it's just what the game has become post-step.

Speaker 7 So

Speaker 7 there's a lot of shot selection stuff that will happen with some kids where I look at their form. Is it quick enough? Are they getting it off?

Speaker 7 Like, you know, again, Halliburton had probably one of the funkier deliveries ever, and all he's done is shot 40% from three basically every season.

Speaker 7 So, you know, there's, there's more to it than I, I think, than just what are your percentages. Where then you have Demon at BYU, who apparently is lighting it up in these pre-workouts.

Speaker 7 And I loved him at six, eight and a half and playing point guard and some of his passing. But he, he's not, I mean, he didn't just miss this year.

Speaker 7 He like, I was kidding, but like his misses are violent, like violent misses from three. So, where I look at his percentage, I'm like, that seems to make more sense, even though apparently, again,

Speaker 7 he's, I guess, killing it in some of these pre-draft workouts, which is shocking because in-game, it was pretty rough.

Speaker 28 So, besides him, who outside of the consensus top eight are you looking at and saying, I like that guy more than what the experts are ranking, Matt?

Speaker 7 Well, it's funny because, like, I don't look at Vassini's stuff until I'm like, I feel like I'm comfortable. Like, I don't want to look at his and then do all my work.

Speaker 7 And then I was watching Cedric Coward, started D3,

Speaker 7 was at Eastern Washington, played six games this year for Washington State because his coach came over, had a shoulder injury, was shut down for the season.

Speaker 7 I still don't even think he's cleared for three on three stuff right now. And I watched him and I'm like, am I losing my mind? But is this guy incredible?

Speaker 7 And I texted Messini, I was like, hey, what do you got on? Like, I was like, do you like this dude? He's like, yeah, I have ninth.

Speaker 63 I was like, whoa.

Speaker 7 All right. And now, you know, people are seeing that going, that's insane.
You guys are nuts because we were raving about him last week on my pod.

Speaker 7 And

Speaker 7 it's just like, look, the competition is not very good. The only good team he played was Iowa last year.
And it was probably his worst of the six games. So maybe I'm getting a little carried away.

Speaker 7 But when you look at the physicality, the shooting numbers, which are incredible across the board, how he just was this wing who seemed like he can score on everybody.

Speaker 7 And then one game, it was like, hey, I'm just going to post up dudes right now just to show you that I I have the full arsenal.

Speaker 7 He makes a lot of sense, probably outside of that eight to nine range, into the uncertainty of what the rest of the lottery and teams are going to be.

Speaker 7 Because that's where I think it's going to be a little bit more wild.

Speaker 3 You got a favorite Euro guy?

Speaker 26 I feel like America's back.

Speaker 47 We kind of

Speaker 26 were dominating this draft after a couple that we didn't. But do you have a favorite Euro guy?

Speaker 63 Well,

Speaker 7 Traore's like watching a colt being born. We're like, is it going to run away and look beautiful or is it going to fall down?

Speaker 7 He doesn't shoot it great. It reminds me of Mello a little, but

Speaker 7 when he's out there, you feel him, right? He's this lanky point guard running around.

Speaker 7 Again, he hasn't shot it great, but he plays with like such incredible energy that sometimes it's like, man, that's a lot of energy you're playing with.

Speaker 7 Essenge, who I mentioned, is a French kid who's playing in the German league. And I can tell, like, I'll look at some of the reports on him and I think, did you guys watch him?

Speaker 7 Or are you just looking at this? Because his free throw rate was nuts. He was like, oh, this guy's so efficient.
He lives at the line. The shit he got called in his favor.

Speaker 77 Like, I can't,

Speaker 7 I just can't imagine an NBA ref going, yeah, let's send him to two for the line. Like, you deserve that.
Where he's not even facing the hoop on some of these shots. Yeah.

Speaker 90 And he's like turning around and then chucks.

Speaker 7 Like, Dame Lillard would be embarrassed.

Speaker 40 Dame would be like, dude, don't ruin this for the rest of us.

Speaker 7 Some teams really like him. Some teams think he could go in the top 10.

Speaker 7 I'm not as big of a fan. I might be totally wrong.
We'll see his team still playing. So we don't even know if he's going to make it to the draft or not, but he's definitely going in the first round.

Speaker 7 Barangier is the other French kid who plays center, and he actually plays center.

Speaker 7 He's somebody I like, at least for the fact that he knows exactly who he's going to be instead of some of these 6'10, 6'11 guys that want to be small forwards, and they're not.

Speaker 7 This guy's a center. He said a screen on a guard in this game I watched last week where it was such a violent screen, and I thought it was legal.

Speaker 7 They called a foul on him, and the official's looking at him basically being like, That guy's so banged up, like a car crash after he ran in your screen.

Speaker 7 Like, I think I have to give him this call right now. And he's looking at him going, like, what? Like, the first, I think, 12 makes that I saw from him were all just right at the rim, dunked.

Speaker 7 He has no interest in doing anything else. And sometimes that can actually be a good thing for a team because it's like he doesn't want to show you what he's capable of in a few years.

Speaker 7 He already understands the assignment.

Speaker 28 Yeah. I got a question for you about the New York Knicks and their coaching search.

Speaker 28 You think they're to the point where they pick up the phone, made called Alabama, made Oates.

Speaker 7 Ah, man.

Speaker 7 Is Izzo,

Speaker 7 or what about Condoleezza Rice?

Speaker 77 Are they going to get a coach for real?

Speaker 31 This is a shit show.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I don't think any of it matters. You know, I think it's like something that's really easy to make fun of.
Very easy.

Speaker 7 If they win games, which they're going to, no one is going to be talking about this in a year. No one.

Speaker 7 So I don't know why they would necessarily do this to embarrass themselves, but to me, this is not like, this is one of your buddies that's a great guy that does something embarrassing, and it's just not going to hang on him as opposed to somebody else.

Speaker 7 Like, it's also the Knicks. So people like to shit on him.
I think there's a lot of good one-liners out of all this stuff, but ultimately, none of this is ever going to matter.

Speaker 7 It's just not like it's a very, if you want to pile on, you can use it. I would like to pile on.

Speaker 13 We're going to pile on top. I know.

Speaker 7 I know, man.

Speaker 7 You love to get on top.

Speaker 28 You'd love to. You know, man.
Stay on top.

Speaker 3 That's what we say on this podcast.

Speaker 15 Pile drive.

Speaker 25 Get on top. Stay on top.

Speaker 28 I just wanted to get on top of the Knicks, and then I also wanted to get on top of Rico at the same time, which is why I thought maybe Nate Oates to the Knicks could make everybody happy.

Speaker 7 Who was, was it Izzo that was going to fix everybody there for a while? Remember when Izzo was going to coach the Michigan State football team?

Speaker 48 Yes. Yes.

Speaker 21 Yes. He was going to fix everybody.

Speaker 7 We are so fucking stupid sometimes.

Speaker 22 But I love it.

Speaker 68 I love it because it's also like, maybe he could.

Speaker 48 I don't know.

Speaker 28 That guy can coach.

Speaker 7 Nothing's better than the Condoleezza Rice Browns.

Speaker 21 No, I still can't believe it's real.

Speaker 28 I think about it once a week.

Speaker 113 I think about it.

Speaker 7 I text you every now and then.

Speaker 7 Like, what are you doing? Like, thinking about Condoleezza Rice with a headset up.

Speaker 28 This is real.

Speaker 21 They need a CEO.

Speaker 5 That's really what it is.

Speaker 26 We need a head coach who's a CEO.

Speaker 7 Who would you guys most want to coach the Knicks?

Speaker 62 It's on the table.

Speaker 28 Probably Jay Wright.

Speaker 17 Rick Brunson would be funny.

Speaker 20 It would. It would be very funny.

Speaker 36 You'd have to admit, it would be very funny.

Speaker 28 If Cuomo doesn't win the election, probably him.

Speaker 48 Yeah.

Speaker 63 How about those numbers? Yeah.

Speaker 40 Wow.

Speaker 36 The real answer is I would love for them.

Speaker 7 I'm not super political, but I just saw it.

Speaker 2 I would love for them to strike out and then have to rehire Tibbs.

Speaker 36 That would be difficult. Would you take it?

Speaker 30 Tibbs would do it.

Speaker 49 Yeah, why not?

Speaker 36 If they pay you.

Speaker 7 It's a rum situation. Yeah, fuck it.

Speaker 44 Like, I knew they hated me.

Speaker 26 Tibbs strikes me as a guy who, it's not like he's walking around being like, everyone fucking loves me in this building. So I don't think it would change much.

Speaker 7 Tibbs loves basketball so much, he would probably do it.

Speaker 29 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 He loves basketball so much. We've told this story.
I mean, you probably know it.

Speaker 22 Like the fact that he was going to get married and he was like, yeah, actually, I'm not getting married because you are going to make me not be able to be a basketball coach all the time.

Speaker 1 And he just had the foresight to be like, yeah, we're just not going to do this.

Speaker 7 I did it because of podcasting.

Speaker 67 Yeah.

Speaker 28 Married to the game.

Speaker 21 Exactly.

Speaker 14 That's commitment. That's commitment.

Speaker 7 You know how many fights I've avoided? By just, like, I've actually done society a favor by.

Speaker 7 being resilient in my solitude because I just know the arguments that I've avoided. And, you know, who knows? I mean, the butterfly effect.

Speaker 7 Say I had a wife and she's like, I can't believe he's watching another fucking game. And then she crashes into somebody at Ralph's grocery store.

Speaker 39 You know? Yeah.

Speaker 8 Who knows?

Speaker 28 You've made so many women so happy by not marrying them.

Speaker 40 Yeah.

Speaker 7 I've done more for women than anybody.

Speaker 28 You love facts more than, yeah. You are.
Any married man.

Speaker 17 You're a feminist at heart.

Speaker 28 Have you ever played solitaire during an NBA playoff game?

Speaker 80 At home on my couch?

Speaker 90 Probably.

Speaker 5 You're a solitaire guy?

Speaker 7 No.

Speaker 7 I don't think so. I mean, back in the day with ESPN every now and then, you remember that golf game that they used to have, that mini golf game on ESPN.com in the early 2000s?

Speaker 7 There was always that one hole that was like, if you could get that in a hole and one, then you, you know, once you started breaking it, like, I think the lowest score you could get was like a North Korean score, wherever you hole was a hole in one.

Speaker 7 But it was really, really hard to do. So we used to do that sometimes during the break because those shows were six hours long, I remember on those Saturday, Saturday night overnights.

Speaker 7 But during a game, like at, look, I'll admit, you know, you get a little distracted on your phone live at a game every now and then.

Speaker 7 You know, is that dog actually underwater?

Speaker 2 It was a cool video.

Speaker 2 And I'll say that, like, at the beginning of the video, I was like, wait, is this real?

Speaker 52 And then when we could audibly hear the dog barking at the shark

Speaker 35 as the shark banged into his scuba.

Speaker 7 You don't think the dog would bark?

Speaker 36 No, I think the dog would bark. I don't think we'd be able to hear it.

Speaker 7 Well, we don't know how it was mic'd.

Speaker 13 That's true. That's true.

Speaker 48 It might have been mic'd up. He had a laugh.

Speaker 63 I missed that.

Speaker 75 Yeah, I missed that.

Speaker 75 All right.

Speaker 7 What are you really asking me, by the way?

Speaker 8 What?

Speaker 28 About Solitaire? Yeah. Just wonder what your thoughts were on Solitaire Gate.

Speaker 7 You zagged pretty hard.

Speaker 28 I was just curious. I want to know.
You're in the biz, Ryan. I just can't imagine.
I can't imagine you ever playing a game on your computer during an NBA Finals game.

Speaker 7 Let's just say, if that were to happen, I would be pretty bummed out with myself. Yeah.

Speaker 25 Unless it was a really good solitaire game, because that's the part that people miss, that Stephen A.

Speaker 20 Smith actually had a really good solitaire game going.

Speaker 7 How does he not see that six over there?

Speaker 7 I would be,

Speaker 7 I think the lesson in all of this is that some people are to a level where there's like this acceptance of it doesn't even matter. Like nothing even matters,

Speaker 7 which I don't know if that's good or bad.

Speaker 2 Well, but okay, so it did matter a little. And I didn't say this on Monday's show, but Stephen A.

Speaker 1 Smith, his daughter's a little too old to be using her as a shield.

Speaker 102 He really needed his daughter to be like five.

Speaker 7 I'm not getting at any of that.

Speaker 28 Let's talk about it this way.

Speaker 28 Hypothetically, what would Stephen A. Smith say about an NBA player if he made the organization go out of their way to bring that player's child into the organization?

Speaker 28 If that were to ever happen in the NBA. Do you think Stephen would have a problem with it?

Speaker 7 Can the kids shoot?

Speaker 2 Not that great.

Speaker 7 Did you guys already do this segment?

Speaker 86 No, no.

Speaker 2 I was ruminating on that take.

Speaker 26 Like, it was, I just, like, usually like when people bring out their kids' shields, being like, I'm facing a little controversy.

Speaker 3 It's like, you know, the kids like running around really cute.

Speaker 24 Everyone's like, oh, look at this cute kid.

Speaker 104 It's not like a full-blown adult.

Speaker 7 I have nothing to add to this. I'm staying out of it.

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Speaker 2 My last question for you, Ryan, is, are you going to run a six-minute mile this year?

Speaker 7 You and I talked about it. This is a big, big controversy on the show where,

Speaker 7 make it quick, I don't do a great job of that, but like, just what would you be excited about, right?

Speaker 39 If like, what would you be excited?

Speaker 7 You'd be excited to rep out 225. I think you'd be excited for most people to bench 225 once.
If you could rep 135 one time, like good for you.

Speaker 39 You're in there.

Speaker 7 Never going to be critical of anybody. That's aging.
That's understanding that like, hey, we're all in this together. I don't want to be an orphan of society.
And

Speaker 7 yet, when I brought up the mile, just off the top of my head, I was like, yeah, I think like a six-minute mile, like if you run, but nobody just runs a mile.

Speaker 7 Nobody runs a mile to just test themselves. And then it turned into the marathon crowd being like, Are you guys out of your mind? 7.30 is like the best split.
And then, of course, that's what happens.

Speaker 7 Like people consistently prove their selfishness to me all the time that their argument was only about what it was that they were doing and the normal thing. Uh, so Big Cat and I talked about this.

Speaker 7 Big Cat, which I appreciate. I don't think it was the friendship.
He was like, you're 100% right about this whole thing.

Speaker 7 Like, nobody would run one mile and then come to work on Monday being like, 7.42, dudes.

Speaker 60 He'd be like, wait, you ran one of them?

Speaker 76 No, it's a fact.

Speaker 28 At some point, like you stop worrying about your mile time. I would say that that age is maybe 10th grade and you don't really care what you can run one mile in.
And you just unless you run it.

Speaker 28 Yeah, unless you're like on a track team. Yeah.
But then you reach the age where it's like, okay, I'm going to run more than a mile because I'm trying to. Exactly.
I'm trying to stay in shape.

Speaker 28 I'm not trying to run.

Speaker 56 5K is 100 meters.

Speaker 48 Yeah.

Speaker 7 Right, right. Like, there's just very few people being like, I'm going to figure this thing out.

Speaker 7 Although Big Cat told me, and again, because he was on my side, but you went out and ran a mile just to prove that you could do it because nobody thought you could do it, right?

Speaker 2 Yeah, no, people, people were like, oh, you can't, it's over 10 minutes easy.

Speaker 25 I went out and I ran like a 740.

Speaker 22 It killed me.

Speaker 99 I was crushed.

Speaker 93 I felt like crap.

Speaker 36 I wanted to die.

Speaker 7 Did you go out too fast? I went.

Speaker 1 I just pushed myself to the limit.

Speaker 22 I'm not in good shape.

Speaker 44 But it's, I do think people, like, if you've done anything,

Speaker 26 if you're, if you've done anything in your life that's like remotely athletic, you could, you still have a baseline that like 740 is not.

Speaker 20 And I did, I didn't go around bragging to people, be like, hey, dude, I ran 740.

Speaker 104 If someone tells you they ran a six-minute mile, I would be like, dude, that's fucking crazy.

Speaker 99 Like, that's fast.

Speaker 5 That's a really fast.

Speaker 62 That's sprinting like as fast as you can.

Speaker 50 It's a 10.

Speaker 7 Yeah. It's a 10 on the treadmill the whole time.
It's crazy. And I used to try to do it when I was younger.

Speaker 7 And I don't think I ever, I don't think I ever got it. I think I'd get to like the 0.08 and then I would just be like, you're going to, something's going to blow.

Speaker 7 Like, you've got to, now the treadmill is driving you. You're not even running right now, and it's going to be really bad.
Am I going to train for it?

Speaker 7 I've wanted to just to kind of do a hey, everybody, fuck off. Cause like whenever any of us talk about any of this stuff, they seem to think that like that's impossible.

Speaker 7 And I'm like, I probably could, but you know, I'd get, I'd get a lot skinnier and I don't want to do that. It's taken me forever to have this much mass.
I'm not ready to give it up.

Speaker 7 That's why I'm not going on Love Island.

Speaker 28 Good point. You're finally at a place in life where you're happy with your body.
Yeah. You got a great body.

Speaker 7 Body possibility. I have a great body.
Fuck everybody.

Speaker 8 Don't apologize.

Speaker 7 Yeah. No, I mean, I look.

Speaker 7 I was checking myself out the other day. I was like,

Speaker 7 the reason I'm single is I don't know if anybody deserves this.

Speaker 8 Yeah.

Speaker 2 And you can fuck yourself.

Speaker 7 I've seen videos, but I don't know if they're real.

Speaker 72 Oh, the dog.

Speaker 3 The dog scuba diving.

Speaker 26 Hank got caught by that. He got caught by

Speaker 68 the kittens jumping off the high dive.

Speaker 48 That one was real.

Speaker 28 The kittens in the Olympics? Yeah, that one is real.

Speaker 7 Well, there was like an AI roided up de shambeau on threads.

Speaker 8 I think big cat can understand.

Speaker 7 Like, I just wrote fake. And the guy was like, dude, I'm just having fun.

Speaker 76 It's great, though.

Speaker 77 We got to keep modest.

Speaker 48 We got to keep modest.

Speaker 97 Yeah, right.

Speaker 7 Like, we don't need this shit because people are now being desensitized. I think there's something to be said.

Speaker 7 I don't know if it's a book or a TED Talk or whatever, but no one's impressed with anything anymore. Yeah, and sometimes every now and then, allow yourself to be impressed.

Speaker 7 I am impressed with the Oklahoma City Thunder and their organization.

Speaker 63 That's a great tieback. That's a disappointment.

Speaker 28 Yeah, great tieback. 10 out of 10 stuck to landing.

Speaker 48 Bang.

Speaker 28 There was one guy online I saw yesterday that had a picture of him and his mom. From he was like, he was like four years old in this picture, and his mom was obviously like a grown lady.

Speaker 28 He's like, this is the most fantastic

Speaker 28 use case I've ever seen for AI.

Speaker 28 And then he turned that picture into a video of his mom and him hugging. And he's like, This is now one of my most cherished memories that I have.
A fake video of him hugging his mom.

Speaker 7 Oh, that's actually pretty sad.

Speaker 28 Yeah, very sad. It's really sad.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 I apologize about trying to keep up with the banter.

Speaker 8 It was so. I have nothing to add.

Speaker 7 It's just like the solitaire topic. I have nothing to add.

Speaker 63 Yeah.

Speaker 16 I was impressed by that fan at the LSU game.

Speaker 39 Yeah.

Speaker 7 I looked at that twice.

Speaker 2 All right, Ryan, you're the best. We love you.
Enjoy vacation wherever you're going.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I mean, looking at St. Helena.

Speaker 48 Okay.

Speaker 7 Napoleon exile.

Speaker 13 Okay. Yeah.

Speaker 7 And I was going to put myself through the same exile. Minus.

Speaker 28 I got a picture or I got a piece of Napoleon's DNA. You want to bring it there?

Speaker 90 Bought it for $250.

Speaker 13 Yeah.

Speaker 13 Okay.

Speaker 28 No, $250 online. online.
Get a piece of his hair.

Speaker 7 Did you spend half a million on a Napoleon's dick and it's fake?

Speaker 63 That's irrelevant.

Speaker 56 I did.

Speaker 28 I did.

Speaker 7 I love when Connor, like Logan asked Connor about him spending money on a fake Napoleon dick. And he's like, that's irrelevant.

Speaker 63 It's irrelevant.

Speaker 42 All right.

Speaker 2 Thanks, Ryan. Appreciate it.

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Speaker 28 And now here's Isaiah Hartenstein.

Speaker 2 Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very special guest. He is an NBA champ as of less than 24 hours ago.

Speaker 3 It is Isaiah Hartenstein from the Oklahoma City Thunder.

Speaker 26 I mean, it's crazy.

Speaker 2 We're talking to you. It's been 12 hours.

Speaker 2 Does it feel like have you been doing media? Like, are we the first to say you're an NBA champ?

Speaker 105 I mean, right after the game, you heard it a couple of times, but I mean, now, y'all, the next day, definitely the first for sure. Yeah.

Speaker 2 So, so you win. Let's talk game seven.
You win game seven.

Speaker 26 Everything's happening. Did you ever, in your wildest imagination, be like, I'm going to someday win an NBA title, and then my son is going to go viral for sleeping?

Speaker 105 Oh, yeah, wait, he's awake, actually, right now.

Speaker 105 Okay.

Speaker 63 Oh, this is good.

Speaker 117 We'll give him a little

Speaker 118 cameo right now.

Speaker 29 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 28 Can you break the news to him that dad's a champion?

Speaker 118 He could care less.

Speaker 105 All he wanted to do was go home and listen to Elmo.

Speaker 105 He didn't care about anything about NBA championship so um that's hilarious it was awesome how old is he he's one he just turned one okay because i had your back in the moment because i i have three kids i was like dude they sleep when they sleep like this is actually a good thing you just you know when they're when they're ready to sleep just let them sleep yeah that was it was amazing i mean i i need i might need like the arena sound now for for the crib because He was dead asleep.

Speaker 105 Like he doesn't even sleep that good at home.

Speaker 105 So I'm like, I need to figure this out or or something but it was an amazing moment and now he's up up there we go yeah the moment when i think shay was the one who like tried to pick up his head a little was very funny yeah oh yeah i was very bad multitasking she was asking questions hit his head was falling to the side but i have great teammates who helped me with my fathering

Speaker 105 so it was it was good i love that so what happens after you guys win what was last night like for you guys i mean first of all you just feel the the great emotions i i mean i think just as a group you're with these guys probably more than your family so just kind of experiencing that together was something truly amazing um

Speaker 105 and then after that we went to

Speaker 105 we tried to do the champagne whatever it's called party but no one knew how to do it like we were all trying to figure out and acu was trying to explain to us how to do it so it was probably the worst champagne shower probably in NBA history.

Speaker 105 But we had fun with that for sure. I love that.

Speaker 28 Your team's so young. And then you're like, hey, Unc, Alex Caruso, who's how old is he?

Speaker 117 Oh, yeah, he's 30.

Speaker 105 Yeah,

Speaker 28 old man on the team. Like, he's the only one who knows how to open up a bottle of champagne.

Speaker 105 The crazy thing is, I think it was like for like three people. It was like the first time they even drank alcohol.

Speaker 50 Oh, that's that is nuts. That is great.

Speaker 28 Did they get hammered? First timers?

Speaker 118 I mean, yes, yeah. yes.

Speaker 118 Some guys got a little

Speaker 118 fun last night, but

Speaker 105 they earned it for sure. Yeah.

Speaker 31 In terms of the actual game, it was weird because obviously the Halliburton injury happens and it kind of takes a little of the air out of the

Speaker 3 whole game seven.

Speaker 2 Did you feel it affect your side as well? Because you guys were down at half, where it was not so much like that you're feeling bad for him, but it's just kind of weird.

Speaker 17 You plan on playing this guy who's been incredible and had this insane run, and then he's out for the the rest of the game.

Speaker 16 You're like, all right, what are we doing here?

Speaker 26 We got TJ McConnell now for extended minutes.

Speaker 2 Did it feel like weird after he went down?

Speaker 105 I mean, first of all, like my prayers just go out to them. I think having an injury like that

Speaker 105 is always something sad to see.

Speaker 105 He was amazing all playoffs.

Speaker 105 But I think for us, it was kind of just getting back to. I mean, yeah, you never want to see it, but we were trying to get back to zero.

Speaker 105 I mean, that's been our kind of motto all all season get back to that zero zero mentality um

Speaker 105 and yeah even without in that great team i mean tj mccollum was

Speaker 105 felt like michael george has some like he he would have some stretches where he was going i mean he was really impressed with his whole playoffs but um yeah we just wanted to make sure that we just stayed locked in um

Speaker 105 And yeah, and got it done.

Speaker 28 Yeah. Can you take me back to last year, July 1st, 2024, when you decided that you were going to sign with the Thunder? And what was going through your head, why you made that decision?

Speaker 28 Did things play out the way that you thought they would? Or was there, you know, you thought that it was the right place for you to be, but maybe even you were surprised with how this year went?

Speaker 105 I think I was more surprised. I mean, you always saw the culture from the outside.
Like you saw that Sam Pressley always built a great culture with the Thunder, but then really being in it to see how

Speaker 105 amazing the culture really is.

Speaker 105 We really just have to focus on basketball here.

Speaker 105 And I think he's done a great job just building that out. And so now being here,

Speaker 105 winning a championship, I mean, it was always a goal, but it's never promised. And so, yeah, I mean, for me, it worked out perfectly.

Speaker 117 It worked out perfectly.

Speaker 28 Yeah, there was a take

Speaker 28 when you decided to sign with Oklahoma City. This is from Nick Central that posted this in reaction to the news.

Speaker 28 Welp, Isaiah Hartenstein went for the short-term money and not for the chance to win win a championship at NYC and be a legend for eternity and have long-term money. Enjoy irrelevance.

Speaker 28 Are you enjoying irrelevance?

Speaker 36 Yeah, it feels pretty good.

Speaker 117 Like the champagne, it feels

Speaker 105 the confetti coming out holding the trophy. It feels pretty good.
But I got love for my Knicks people, man. They're so passionate.

Speaker 105 They're so good for basketball.

Speaker 105 I'll take that comment and I'll take my ring in a couple of months too. So, yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but the Thunder have some incredible fans as well.

Speaker 2 Do you, at any point during the season, did you see Thundor out there with his shirt off and his belly painted?

Speaker 1 Because I feel like this is partially his championship too.

Speaker 2 And pretty much everyone who put on a shirt, anyone who puts on a shirt,

Speaker 2 you know, in your guys' arena, like they won this championship as well.

Speaker 105 I mean, I saw him the first time I saw him was

Speaker 105 he had his shirt off in Summerlee.

Speaker 118 Like he was ready to go in Summerlee.

Speaker 105 I was like, what is going

Speaker 105 on here? But they're amazing, man.

Speaker 105 The community is so behind us.

Speaker 105 And they give us a push every game. I mean,

Speaker 105 every game, every home game, everyone's wearing a shirt. It could be an 80-year-old person or it could be a 4-year-old.
No one cares. They were wearing a shirt.

Speaker 105 And I think it just gave us really a boost, especially at home. I think our home record was in the playoffs.
It was like 12-2 or something like that.

Speaker 36 Yeah. Yeah.
And the two were just insane losses at the end of the Nuggets and the Pacers.

Speaker 21 Yeah.

Speaker 105 Yeah, it was crazy. I mean, Aaron Gordon was

Speaker 105 a crazy game winner. Halipurna, a crazy game winner.
But yeah, our fans are amazing.

Speaker 28 So you lose game one.

Speaker 28 Kind of a crazy comeback. That's what the Pacers have been doing all postseason.

Speaker 28 Was that, could you spin zone that and say it was actually a good thing we lost game one because it shocked us and it made us ready to to play for full game for every single other game that we had against them?

Speaker 105 I mean, we kind of, we kind of knew, knew it coming into it. I mean, they were doing it all playoffs.
I mean, the

Speaker 105 comebacks they've had,

Speaker 105 I mean, you would watch it and you would,

Speaker 105 I don't even know how they came back from that. So we also kind of knew it.

Speaker 105 But

Speaker 105 yeah, I mean, it kind of helped us for sure. I mean, I think just this, that was kind of mentality throughout these playoffs.
I mean, throughout the series, is how can we stay locked in 48 minutes?

Speaker 105 They're a great team, and

Speaker 105 even when you feel like the games, you have control of the game, they can come back just with their pace and the way they play. And so, yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah. I got a basketball question for you.

Speaker 99 So in these playoffs, especially in these finals, you went from starting to coming off the bench for a few of the games to start the series.

Speaker 3 How hard is that as a player to be like, I'm now starting the game on the bench?

Speaker 16 And it's credit to you, it felt like the Thunder had that type of team chemistry where guys can be interchangeable, guys can play different amounts of minutes.

Speaker 26 But is that difficult to be like, all right, I'm used to starting and now I'm going to have to come off the bench in like these high-leverage situations?

Speaker 105 Yeah,

Speaker 105 I think if you want to win, you have to sacrifice. And so I think knowing that

Speaker 105 I was able to put my ego aside and I trust Mark fully. I mean, Mark's been great for us all season.
I trust the decisions he's making. So it's more, I just want to win so bad.

Speaker 105 And if it's me playing one minute, me playing 40 minutes,

Speaker 105 to me, it doesn't matter.

Speaker 105 I think just, I mean, if you look at our whole team, each series, someone else sacrificed. And so I think that's what made us special again.

Speaker 105 And it was no egos involved. No one was in the locker room pouting because he played, let's say, 10 less minutes in the series before.
It was how can I help the team win?

Speaker 105 And I think that that's what also makes us so connected to him.

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Speaker 44 Yeah.

Speaker 78 If you played one-on-one versus Lou Dort, are you scoring a point?

Speaker 105 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Are you sure?

Speaker 105 Yeah.

Speaker 93 Lou Dort would probably lock you down.

Speaker 105 No. Yeah.

Speaker 117 That's right. Dort should.

Speaker 62 Yeah.

Speaker 118 No, that's like.

Speaker 2 But I feel like Lou Dort, he doesn't get enough credit and your whole team. Like, can you feel when you guys were playing at your highest level, the defense was just so insane?

Speaker 2 Would you, would you, like, look at each other and say, like, like, hey, we got them now?

Speaker 26 Like, we know what, like, because it was, it was, like, demoralizing to watch what you would do to other teams where it's not always the offense.

Speaker 1 It's just like you're so suffocating, hands everywhere, loose balls, all that stuff.

Speaker 26 Could you feel like you're taking the will of other teams during the season?

Speaker 105 Yeah, I mean, I think there was times throughout the season where...

Speaker 105 I mean, even throughout the playoffs where we won't shoot any good, but we knew we could rely on our defense.

Speaker 105 I think for us, it's special that we, to me, I don't think we really had a weak link on defense. I mean,

Speaker 105 even Shay is a great defender to me. So it's like, when you have five guys on the court at all times, I mean,

Speaker 105 when Lou Dork comes out, you have Alex Perusso, Casey Wallace. And so probably as the guards, every time I look to the bench or see someone get subbed in, I thought like, oh, damn, he's coming in.

Speaker 105 Oh, damn, another one. So it's,

Speaker 105 I think, something that really made us throughout the year because we always had that energy and it's always someone coming in.

Speaker 105 And I've probably never played on a team where top to bottom, we all had great defenders.

Speaker 28 Yeah, just wave after wave of guys. I got a dumb question for you.
Have you ever thought about talking to SGA and being like, hey, man, maybe you shouldn't sign 500 autographs before a game?

Speaker 28 That might be too many autographs.

Speaker 105 I'm going to lie. I saw that video the NBA posted it.
Yeah. Like there was like a ticker.
I'm like, I would be exhausted. Yeah.

Speaker 105 Like, I mean, he's a great dude. Like, just to do that, like, he's so humble and then, like, he's so connected to the fans.
But, like, I got tired of watching me.

Speaker 105 I'm like,

Speaker 105 but I don't know. He has, I guess, stamina for days.
My hand would have been cramping by probably like 200. Yeah.

Speaker 42 Yeah.

Speaker 28 It was crazy. Yeah.
For like, actually, on a serious level, I think that my hand would be too injured to play basketball if I had to write my name 500 times.

Speaker 64 Yeah.

Speaker 105 Yeah, that would have, I mean, if he would have gone to our darks and be like, hey, doc, I can't play. I just strained my hand, signing autographs.

Speaker 105 I think, I think people would be pissed around the organization for sure.

Speaker 26 Dumb question because it happened before the game, but were you aware of the video that was going around about the buses being painted for the championship parade?

Speaker 4 Because obviously, that's something that we're sitting here on our phone being like, uh-oh, this is a problem.

Speaker 26 Did you guys, did anyone in the locker room see that video?

Speaker 105 I mean, I saw it, but I feel like they have to do it like before. Probably Indiana, they're probably doing the same thing.
Yes. Our buster just got leaked.

Speaker 40 Right.

Speaker 105 I mean, it wasn't like they were going to do it like a day before and try to do it as fast as possible. So it's probably,

Speaker 105 both teams were doing it, but our team just got leaked. But I mean, I don't know.

Speaker 26 Yeah, you can't have it leaked.

Speaker 36 You got to take care of that in-house.

Speaker 21 Yeah, you can't, you can't, because you're right.

Speaker 26 Like, they do have to make the plans, but was there ever, did anyone talk about it before the game? Like, hey, look at this.

Speaker 50 This was like, we're getting a little ahead of ourselves.

Speaker 105 No, we didn't really. I mean, we were just focused on the game.

Speaker 105 I mean, you have enough emotion going into game seven that kind of stuff like that, you just kind of push to aside. So,

Speaker 28 what were the emotions that you were feeling before that game?

Speaker 105 I mean, it's human nature. You have a certain nervousness to you because you know how

Speaker 105 drastic of a change it would be. I mean, if you win, you're in the happiest.
I mean, I'm like grateful beyond measures, happy beyond measures.

Speaker 105 But if you lose, I mean, I told my wife, I'm like, if we look, like,

Speaker 105 if this goes the other way, I might be in my room for three weeks, not talking to you, depressing my room. So it's really like those

Speaker 105 two big different sways

Speaker 105 about it.

Speaker 105 So you have that nervousness to you, but I think depression is also a privilege. You grow up wanting to play in these high-stake games.

Speaker 105 And so that's kind of where I got back to being more calm, just noticing that the pressure is a privilege.

Speaker 26 How many times do you go to the bathroom before the game?

Speaker 34 I would go to the bathroom 100 times before the game.

Speaker 105 I ain't gonna lie, I went like five times.

Speaker 38 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 And you're like, oh, I don't have no piss left, but I still got to do it.

Speaker 96 I'd be the other way.

Speaker 38 Yeah.

Speaker 2 I mean, do both, but like, you know, like when you have that like nervousness, like, I'm going to just go check if I have to piss again.

Speaker 105 Yeah, it was a good, it's a couple more than usually for sure.

Speaker 48 Yeah, yeah, that's just human nature.

Speaker 37 Was there anyone who was just like living in the bathroom?

Speaker 26 Please don't tell me it was Alex Crusoe.

Speaker 105 I mean, I didn't really track that, so I wasn't really, I wasn't really following everyone to the bathroom. So, um, I'll ask my teammates after you can get back to it.

Speaker 28 I feel like it was chat, was probably

Speaker 55 you didn't have to track it, just like, did you see anyone more than once?

Speaker 50 Where you're like, you're going five times.

Speaker 22 Did you see anyone like, oh, here we are again?

Speaker 105 No, No.

Speaker 105 Not really. I might have been the most thing because I was kind of by myself a lot.
So

Speaker 105 I might have been up there.

Speaker 105 But, you know, AC's old bladder might have been

Speaker 42 a little fast.

Speaker 55 He's got some kidney stones.

Speaker 28 He's got to pass.

Speaker 2 Did you guys talk at all about, there was a play, I think it was maybe game five when

Speaker 2 Alex Cruz was a friend of ours.

Speaker 24 He basically was trying to swim on the floor to get a loose ball, and he looked psychotic.

Speaker 2 Did anyone make fun of him after that?

Speaker 105 I mean, we're used to it. He's a psychopath.

Speaker 117 So

Speaker 105 we're used to it. I mean, he's amazing, man.
I mean,

Speaker 105 the passion he has for the game,

Speaker 105 the grit and hustle he plays with,

Speaker 105 all playoffs, he's made huge plays. And yeah, for us, he's been amazing.
He's been the old. The old guy for us, the bald guy for us.
And yeah, he keeps his head shining for sure. Yeah.

Speaker 28 All right. So now that you get to actually plan the parade and you get to use those very beautiful buses that you guys painted like five months ago,

Speaker 28 who's going to be in charge on your team? Who's the guy that's going to be like the social director being like, hey, we're going to meet up here. Here's where we're going to pre-game.

Speaker 28 How's that going to get pulled together?

Speaker 105 I mean, most of us are recovering right now. I mean, a couple guys are trying to survive right now.

Speaker 105 Jay Will is most the most social guy, probably.

Speaker 105 So Jay Will probably is going to be the guy to get everything started.

Speaker 105 And yeah, and then after that, I don't know. I mean, I don't even know what's going on, to be honest.
Yeah,

Speaker 105 they said, Show up at 8:30, and I guess we're just going to figure it out from there. So, I don't know.

Speaker 28 So, it was a group chat this morning. It was like three guys being like, I am so fucking hungover right now.

Speaker 28 Unless we win another championship, I'm never drinking again.

Speaker 105 That was the whole group chat. I said, I'm done drinking, I hate alcohol.

Speaker 105 Yeah, that was the whole group chat this morning.

Speaker 93 I have one more question about the series.

Speaker 22 We mentioned him, TJ McConnell.

Speaker 26 Was there moments where you're like, how the hell is this guy doing this?

Speaker 16 I'm like a foot taller than him.

Speaker 22 And he would just dribble around, like underneath everyone and around.

Speaker 1 And just like,

Speaker 1 he had such an impact on the series, and it was crazy to watch.

Speaker 105 Yeah, it was, I felt like he just played like a madman out there. It was like, I mean,

Speaker 105 like, you would watch him, like, how is he doing this at times?

Speaker 105 And then you would go defend him. You'd be like, oh, oh, okay, I get it.
I get it. I get it.
It's not as easy as I thought it was. Like, there's sometimes like I watch players.

Speaker 105 I'm like, how does he get by him the whole time? And then when you really get on him, it's a different ballgame. But he was amazing.

Speaker 105 I mean, even defensively, he had like, I think it was one away game. He had like five steals off the inbound.

Speaker 40 Yeah.

Speaker 105 Like, I don't know how we, like, we watched the films, like, how did we turn these balls over? But I don't know. He, he was amazing.
A lot of respect in him.

Speaker 117 Yeah.

Speaker 117 Yeah.

Speaker 28 Yeah. No, it was, it was impressive.
You guys were a great team all season.

Speaker 28 Was there a point during the season where you thought, yeah, this could be, we could definitely win a championship with this squad?

Speaker 105 I mean, I think we had confidence from the beginning. But I think when we went on that,

Speaker 105 I think it was like 15-game winning streak.

Speaker 105 I think that's when we were like, hey,

Speaker 105 we have a good chance. We were beating teams, I feel like, by like 20 every night.

Speaker 105 And I think that's when we like kind of looked at each other like, hey, we got a chance to really do it.

Speaker 105 But we also are very like present focused teams. So we never try to get too far ahead.
And I think that's what made us great all season. Mark talks about having that zero-0 mentality.

Speaker 105 And so for us, just being present throughout the season, I think that helped a lot. Yeah.

Speaker 28 Is it easy to keep the zero-zero mentality?

Speaker 105 Like hypothetically, if you're beating the memphis grizzlies by like 60 points is he still like hey guys it's zero zero yeah he's a he's like he's like one of them psychopath coaches who's who like shows us like animals before we play like animals hunting and stuff like that so he's definitely he's definitely one of the guys that we're up by 60 we got that zero zero mentality i like that i love that um all right well isaiah i have one last question it's the uh roback question rho bak.com promo code take 20 off your first purchase.

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Speaker 26 I got a stat for you that's going to probably wow you from this season.

Speaker 16 You ready for it?

Speaker 105 Yeah, let's do it.

Speaker 48 You

Speaker 31 gave SGA

Speaker 25 2,475

Speaker 34 high fives at the free throw line this year.

Speaker 105 That real stat. No, I made that up.

Speaker 105 Yeah, I was like, there's no fucking way.

Speaker 63 That's a real stat.

Speaker 105 I was like, whoever's tracking that has no life.

Speaker 63 Did you ever at home?

Speaker 105 Got there, like, a little piece of paper. It's like, all right, one.

Speaker 117 Yeah.

Speaker 105 Dude, it has no life.

Speaker 7 Did you ever skip any?

Speaker 2 Did you ever, do you, or you always, are you always giving them out?

Speaker 105 No, I make sure. I make sure my hand's always out there.
I mean,

Speaker 8 I would say

Speaker 105 you want the ball every now and then, so you can't, you know, get him too bad.

Speaker 28 That's more impressive than him signing 500 autographs.

Speaker 56 Yeah.

Speaker 28 Your hand should be exhausted at the end of this year. I know.

Speaker 105 They should count how many times that we be clapping and stuff like that.

Speaker 117 That shouldn't be exhausted.

Speaker 56 That's wearing tear, man.

Speaker 67 It counts. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Well, Isaiah, congrats again, man.

Speaker 104 Awesome, awesome season.

Speaker 47 Incredible accomplishment.

Speaker 16 You guys were, I mean, second most wins all time of a championship team in a season.

Speaker 3 Hell of a team.

Speaker 26 So congrats and have fun at the parade.

Speaker 104 Thank you.

Speaker 105 Appreciate it y'all.

Speaker 88 Man, I'll tell you what, when you're hungry out there, you start acting like a rookie quarterback in his first game, making bad decisions, decisions messing up the basics being all out of sorts that's where snickers comes in man that thing is packed roasted peanuts nugget caramel milk chocolate it's like the mvp of candy bars and when you bite into it boom it sorts you out gets your head back in the game of life satisfying your hunger remember this snickers handles your hunger so you can handle everything else Snickers satisfies, man.

Speaker 7 That's a winning play.

Speaker 48 Okay, Hank.

Speaker 65 Let's wrap it up with FAQs.

Speaker 10 Do you guys have big numbers outside the U.S.? I'm a listener from Brazil, and I'm curious about it. American sports are pretty global these days.
Oh.

Speaker 28 When you comment, you say J-A-J-A-J-A-J-A when something's funny.

Speaker 28 It always seems funnier.

Speaker 34 Does anyone know the answer to that?

Speaker 10 We have some Australian. I feel like.
European. I feel like...

Speaker 61 Indian.

Speaker 10 Maybe I'm just making up.

Speaker 96 I feel like we had a lot of Netherlands for some reason.

Speaker 28 I think we have a lot of English, British.

Speaker 10 Definitely a lot of Australian.

Speaker 58 A lot of sound off

Speaker 48 from abroad.

Speaker 91 Yeah.

Speaker 91 I love it.

Speaker 111 I think number two in Canada.

Speaker 62 Yep.

Speaker 54 Let's go, Canada. Chiclet's number one.

Speaker 90 Our guys? Yep. Yep.

Speaker 71 We love them. What about Italy?

Speaker 28 Are the Italian numbers?

Speaker 10 Gotta be strong. I mean, all the soccer talk.

Speaker 84 Yeah, we're gonna get Rick Petino on.

Speaker 28 All the soccer talk, all the meatball talk. Mount Rushmore season blows up there.

Speaker 11 Yeah.

Speaker 48 Yeah, I don't know what our

Speaker 15 strongest countries are.

Speaker 64 It would be interesting. I think it's Australia.

Speaker 10 It It is pretty sure.

Speaker 28 Australia. Good idea.

Speaker 72 That makes me feel good because Australians rule.

Speaker 2 If they like us,

Speaker 2 I feel like we're doing something right.

Speaker 64 Yeah, Australians are the best.

Speaker 10 And it

Speaker 78 totally isn't just people from America who live there.

Speaker 28 No, it's criminals from England. Yeah, it's totally.
It's actually all the people that

Speaker 28 were so cool that they got kicked out of England when it sucked. Yeah.

Speaker 14 All right, he's looking right now.

Speaker 78 We're not.

Speaker 33 We're okay in Australia,

Speaker 28 What's the number one sports scrolling? We're talking a lot in Australia.

Speaker 15 This is a lot of scrolling.

Speaker 64 We got to get, yeah, I mean, the kangaroo jacket.

Speaker 15 All right, we got to get to get bigger in Australia.

Speaker 34 Number one podcast is Dan Does Footy.

Speaker 48 Oh, I love that.

Speaker 28 That's awesome. We should get Dan.
We should get him on.

Speaker 56 Yeah.

Speaker 28 Dan Does Footy.

Speaker 67 Little crossover.

Speaker 10 Probably Ozzy Rules Footy.

Speaker 40 Maybe.

Speaker 28 Go up the magpies.

Speaker 91 Okay.

Speaker 36 Hey, there.

Speaker 78 Oh, Monaco.

Speaker 28 You're huge in Monaco.

Speaker 95 No.

Speaker 96 M's.

Speaker 36 Oh, for Mount Rushmore? Monaco? That's a good one.

Speaker 28 Yeah, I mean,

Speaker 28 you said that Michelin-starred restaurants didn't make the cut.

Speaker 96 Yeah.

Speaker 28 Monaco is like the city equipment.

Speaker 1 I agree, but it's just a bunch of casinos and like

Speaker 101 Monaco.

Speaker 115 Yeah.

Speaker 28 Actually, we should try. Miami.
We should try to grow our audience in Monaco. Yeah, we should.
I think that'd be a good idea. Maybe it would have been a remote broadcast on site.
Yeah.

Speaker 10 Hey there, Big Cat PFT and Soul Patch Max. Once a Soul Patch guy, always a Soul Patch guy.

Speaker 10 Big Cat, it seems you've reached a point of Nirvana now that you have a soft serve machine. What is the next goal for the office? Slide.

Speaker 98 We need to slide.

Speaker 3 We need to slide from the second floor to the first floor.

Speaker 17 You don't want.

Speaker 28 Did you see that look? I mean, I wouldn't poo-poo a slide. Did you see that look? I wouldn't yuck another man's yum.

Speaker 71 Did you see that look?

Speaker 10 I mean, that was talked about in construction designs. Yeah, I know.

Speaker 90 And I'm like,

Speaker 78 I'm now ready for a slide.

Speaker 96 That makes no sense. Why?

Speaker 69 Batting cage.

Speaker 5 Batting cage is, but we need more space for now.

Speaker 80 But I'll forever say batting cage. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, if we get more space, batting cage is 1-1 going to be.

Speaker 80 We have so many baseball guys coming in now. Yeah.

Speaker 84 No, Bat and Cage would be so sick.

Speaker 51 Batting Cage would be sick. What do you think they would do?

Speaker 28 You think they would let you pitch batting practice to them?

Speaker 80 I mean, I think they said.

Speaker 80 I don't know. Should I say the guy? Oh, yeah.

Speaker 89 Yeah, they were here. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 80 Meryl Kelly said

Speaker 80 he said we got to try that during the interview.

Speaker 96 Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 36 A slide, though.

Speaker 28 I still think Gravitron.

Speaker 28 I actually saw a Gravatron for sale for $70,000.

Speaker 17 Yeah, if we could find the space.

Speaker 28 Practically giving it away.

Speaker 23 You wouldn't like a slide from the second floor all the way to the first floor?

Speaker 22 You wouldn't slide down that slide?

Speaker 10 Doesn't make logistical sense. What do you mean?

Speaker 43 There's no room.

Speaker 64 Stairs suck.

Speaker 10 Slides are rock. It would take up a lot of space.

Speaker 3 How would it take up a lot of space?

Speaker 10 Where would it end?

Speaker 78 It would end right in front of the golf simulator.

Speaker 97 That's a long slide.

Speaker 85 So?

Speaker 10 If we had one like the

Speaker 10 slide that the cop went down in Boston, that would be fun. Like a risk-reward slide.

Speaker 48 Okay, we could figure that out.

Speaker 80 What about a fireman's pole?

Speaker 28 That sounds dangerous.

Speaker 14 Yeah, that does sound dangerous.

Speaker 34 Okay.

Speaker 1 So you're out on the slide. That idea.

Speaker 28 I think if we get a slide, we should have a ladder.

Speaker 10 Actually, no, I'm in.

Speaker 36 You're in on a slide. Yeah.
Why?

Speaker 10 Because otherwise, you're going to get one.

Speaker 102 You're smart.

Speaker 63 But think about it.

Speaker 28 If you had a choice of how to get to the second floor and your options were stairs or a ladder that just goes up to that balcony, I think I'd take the ladder every time.

Speaker 72 I'd probably take the ladder. Yeah.
And I would definitely take the slide.

Speaker 96 Yeah, if you're going down. Up.

Speaker 34 I'd probably walk up the slide every now and then just for fun.

Speaker 48 We have an elevator.

Speaker 8 You don't have to use the stairs.

Speaker 28 But you have to go all the way in the corner.

Speaker 54 I take it every day.

Speaker 37 It's slow.

Speaker 28 The problem with the elevator is you have to walk so much further to the elevator. You might as well take the stairs.

Speaker 25 So then what's the next thing, Hank?

Speaker 37 I don't know. Ice cream kind of was the dog chasing the car.

Speaker 3 I caught it.

Speaker 86 Ball pit. Batting cage.

Speaker 71 Ball pit.

Speaker 61 But batting cages, again, batting cages are not like, do we want it or not?

Speaker 115 We want it.

Speaker 65 We just don't have the space for it. I know.

Speaker 47 Space for it, we'd have a batting cage tomorrow.

Speaker 80 I understand, but they asked, what's the dream?

Speaker 108 That's the dream. At least for me.

Speaker 91 Okay. That's my dream.

Speaker 28 Shooting range.

Speaker 84 Shooting range would be interesting.

Speaker 84 I wouldn't be opposed.

Speaker 63 Bowling lane.

Speaker 106 Bowling lane would be awesome if we could bowl.

Speaker 91 Holy shit.

Speaker 7 That's a great idea. That's a good one, Hank.

Speaker 48 That's a really good one.

Speaker 28 Guaranteed that would break twice a day. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 55 Well, we would just have Zach.

Speaker 91 Pinboys.

Speaker 6 Zach just becomes a mechanic.

Speaker 55 Is that something you think you could do, Zach?

Speaker 69 That would take more time to master than the ice cream.

Speaker 63 Way more time.

Speaker 10 What is everyone's top four sports by ability? Max mentioned basketball isn't even in his top 10, and he still hit that three in Hank's eye. That's not true.

Speaker 28 No, it was in your eye.

Speaker 28 The video showed it was in your eye.

Speaker 72 I don't know if we need to do four because it falls off a cliff.

Speaker 28 Yeah, see, the thing is, like, all of our fourth best sports are very, very bad.

Speaker 10 Spike ball.

Speaker 37 I would say

Speaker 18 basketball, wiffle ball.

Speaker 97 Golf. Or softball.

Speaker 14 And the golf's not there for me.

Speaker 72 Swimming. I'm a good swimmer.

Speaker 36 People were getting at me for the Barstool camp.

Speaker 26 They were like, oh, didn't you almost die swimming?

Speaker 85 It's like, dude, I went too fast for my body.

Speaker 53 Like, figure it out.

Speaker 37 My body went to a higher level.

Speaker 80 You're a good dart thrower? Dart throw.

Speaker 85 Decent dart thrower.

Speaker 101 Pole vaulting.

Speaker 91 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Good frisbee golf. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 25 It's not great.

Speaker 55 What about you, PFT?

Speaker 28 I think, is this like what you're good at relative to other people?

Speaker 10 By your ability. Top four sports by ability.

Speaker 72 Like, if you, you, the top four sports you'd feel confident would be like, yeah, I could do this.

Speaker 28 Rugby would probably be number one.

Speaker 28 Foot golf. I'm a very strong foot golfer.
I played once.

Speaker 28 But I feel like I could be good at that. Okay.

Speaker 28 Kicking footballs.

Speaker 80 That counts.

Speaker 59 Yeah, being a kicker. And then, I don't know, golf.

Speaker 10 Yeah, mindset. Golf.

Speaker 28 Golf is actually number one. Yep.

Speaker 62 Could I throw out there just like catch?

Speaker 28 Good job, coach.

Speaker 74 I'm very good at catch.

Speaker 20 Good hand-eye coordination.

Speaker 22 Like, I could play catch forever.

Speaker 60 And I'm like, I'll throw it to where it needs to be.

Speaker 111 I'll catch it.

Speaker 79 Yeah, like shooting around.

Speaker 113 Catches

Speaker 113 pretty simple.

Speaker 93 There are a lot of people who are not good at catch, but that is true.

Speaker 56 You have to have a nice smooth skill.

Speaker 2 You know the people who aren't good at catch.

Speaker 22 It's like, all right, I don't want to play catch with you anymore.

Speaker 90 Yeah.

Speaker 10 I'm great at shooting around. Like, I'm not great at basketball.

Speaker 71 I'm not great at basketball either. But if I had to pick

Speaker 98 a game, I could jump into a game, it'd be basketball. Zach, what are yours?

Speaker 69 I hate to say my strongest port probably is basketball, and I'm not very good at basketball.

Speaker 63 Oh, no. Oh, no.

Speaker 69 I'm okay at pickleball, duos. The 1v1, not very good.
We're doing duos in the pickleball court, relatively decent.

Speaker 69 I'm okay with a dink.

Speaker 69 And then I like darts.

Speaker 69 If darts play, I'll go darts three. Okay.

Speaker 28 Hank, you should have said ping pong.

Speaker 91 Yeah, ping pong.

Speaker 101 Ping pong.

Speaker 69 Bocce.

Speaker 6 Max, are you baseball? Baseball.

Speaker 80 Fishing? Football.

Speaker 85 Not that. Basketball.

Speaker 80 Basketball.

Speaker 10 Darts.

Speaker 72 like fish crushing Dana.

Speaker 106 Yeah. In Oklahoma drills.

Speaker 80 That counts.

Speaker 80 I'm like bad at most things football, but I'm

Speaker 108 put in the trenches.

Speaker 28 Yeah, you could just select Oklahoma drills.

Speaker 92 Yeah.

Speaker 28 I'd say you're like top 1%.

Speaker 10 Yeah, it's just the sports that I played growing up.

Speaker 5 Memes, lacrosse.

Speaker 58 Yeah, lacrosse, indoor, outdoor.

Speaker 91 Oh, both. Box.
Box.

Speaker 84 Women's.

Speaker 34 I like playing basketball the most.

Speaker 55 Oh, I guess guess I would women's arm wrestling.

Speaker 6 I am a champion.

Speaker 98 So that would be.

Speaker 14 I need to start sending that clip to people online being like, this is why we can't have men competing in women's sports

Speaker 10 from 10 years ago. Or just tweet it like a girl's name has won a competition.

Speaker 92 APM.

Speaker 92 So good.

Speaker 10 My favorite long-running bit of the show is a good, great, good question back and forth between Piquette and PFT. Good question.

Speaker 10 During interviews, have you ever thought about incorporating this into a year-long competition? Whoever gets the most, that's a good question. Response is from guests.

Speaker 10 During the year of interviews, wins, loser has to do something. Thanks and love the show.

Speaker 28 I think that would be like a decent thing for somebody to track, but I don't want to make it a competition.

Speaker 24 No, it's about gassing each other up.

Speaker 31 Yeah.

Speaker 22 It's about gassing our boys up.

Speaker 28 It's about letting the other person know that it was a great question, not at all just the person stalling for time before they answer the question.

Speaker 72 It's also like, you know, it's like the carlisle saying they had motivation after seeing the uh the buses like you don't need motivations to to want to have a good question also if we have an interview and pft gets a bunch of good questions that's awesome because that means the interview rocked yeah and like the listeners like we are a team as much as mount rushmore will show otherwise we are a team i'm pumped when he gets a good question when we get back-to-back good questions nothing makes me happy i hit another level i feel like i'm just like holy shit we're fucking firing i feel like i'm dwayne wade throwing the ball up to lebron Good question.

Speaker 84 Good question. Yeah, that was a good question by her.

Speaker 28 You're right.

Speaker 20 It has nothing to do with the person's stall.

Speaker 106 No,

Speaker 28 they know exactly how they're going to answer. They just want to let us know, wow, I'm just really impressed with how you guys do your job before I answer that question.
Yeah. Now to answer it.

Speaker 3 Now, when someone says, oh, great question,

Speaker 26 that usually is a stall.

Speaker 36 Yeah.

Speaker 72 That's a stall. You can tell.

Speaker 14 But good question, that's as

Speaker 56 sincere as possible.

Speaker 28 Yeah, they just want to let us know. Yeah.

Speaker 73 Is that it? Yeah. All right.

Speaker 48 Good show, boys.

Speaker 28 Thanks for pulling that up, Zach. Yeah.

Speaker 28 That's awesome. An interview right there.

Speaker 91 That was Max.

Speaker 28 Great job, Max. There you go, Max.

Speaker 22 All right, numbers. Three.

Speaker 28 I think that was memes. 99.

Speaker 2 Memes, is that you? Yeah.

Speaker 71 You sure?

Speaker 10 99, Pug.

Speaker 64 I'll go six.

Speaker 5 I'll go 15.

Speaker 80 I wasn't paying attention to anyone else's numbers.

Speaker 48 You'll be able to go

Speaker 108 84.

Speaker 63 Okay.

Speaker 91 Zach?

Speaker 69 I'll go 46.

Speaker 98 Can somebody say six?

Speaker 85 I said, I beg.

Speaker 69 I want to make sure that all of the memes are

Speaker 69 69.

Speaker 69 Memes.

Speaker 2 Almost 99.

Speaker 2 Is that in your rotation memes? 69?

Speaker 28 Mouse stuff. It should be.

Speaker 37 It should be. Mouse.

Speaker 71 It should be.

Speaker 58 I remember the first lottery ball.

Speaker 111 It went like 69, 69.

Speaker 58 Like the first lottery ball that you let me pick,

Speaker 111 it was 69. And you guys told me I should have picked 69.

Speaker 28 Nobody's really won since we all started taking memes as numbers just to troll them. Have you noticed that?

Speaker 57 No, I won the other. Remember, I won the PAR.

Speaker 48 Yeah.

Speaker 91 Yeah.

Speaker 2 It's not hard, memes.

Speaker 34 All you gotta do is pick the number and then have the number come up.

Speaker 7 That makes sense.

Speaker 108 Let you guys try it.