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Today is Wednesday, November 26th, and Brock Purdy's throwing another interception. Whoop!

Speaker 2 Whoop! Interesting first half from Brock. The crazy thing is the Niners still felt like they were in control of the game.
Oh, they manned him up.

Speaker 2 Because Brock Purdy was throwing interceptions on his terms.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 to be up, so we're talking Monday Night Football, to be up at half after your quarterback throwing three interceptions, and there was a fumble that they did recover, which I still don't understand how they recovered that Christian McCaffrey fumble.

Speaker 1 It just shows that the Niners are starting, you know, they're good enough that they can overcome those things. The Panthers, not ready for prime time.

Speaker 1 The Panthers were so frustrating to watch in that game because you keep picking the ball off. You had

Speaker 1 the one where you were on the 16-yard line and going in, and Bryce Young then throws his interception.

Speaker 1 I was saying in the first half, we had a real doo-doo, a doo-doo football game on our hands where it was just like, let's watch some crazy, stupid shit happen.

Speaker 1 And it did happen, and the Niners were the better team.

Speaker 2 It felt like there was something off with the ball.

Speaker 2 That's how often it was getting turned over and just squirting out. That ball was squirting out everywhere last night.
And

Speaker 2 Bryce had a chance. The Panthers took the ball down the field, and then he responded with his own doo-doo pick.
Yep.

Speaker 2 It's just a terrible interception in the end zone on a ball he probably could have and should have run in.

Speaker 2 He was out in space. There was a guy that probably, I don't think was going to be able to get him if he had just decided to take off, but he threw his doo-doo pick.

Speaker 2 And And then the Niners were like, okay, we're playing some shit football. We can play some shit football with you tonight.
Yeah. And yeah, it just became like Christian McCaffrey Fest.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Christian McCaffrey was just spamming. That first drive was almost a service academy drive.

Speaker 2 It was like, we're going to be safe because Brock is having one of them nights. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And good thing that we've got Christian and we can just, you know, if we're going to throw the ball, let's have it go like three yards in the air to Christian McCaffrey. Let him run with it.

Speaker 2 Let Kittle get the ball across the middle a little bit and just hit some people in the face. And they ended up playing like a pretty conservative game plan from that point on.

Speaker 2 After the third pick, now, when I watch a game like that, after three interceptions, I don't care if it's a team that I bet on or that I'm rooting for. I want it to keep getting worse.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 I wanted Brock Purdy to throw five picks in the first half. I wanted Nathan Peterman to be sitting on his couch nervous that his records were going to get shattered.

Speaker 1 When you see the third pick get thrown, you're like, oh, man,

Speaker 1 we're now looking at maybe a historic night. Yeah.
Because

Speaker 1 I thought for a second there was like a chance that Kyle Shannon would be like, hey, like pulling a goalie, be like, Mac Jones, get in there.

Speaker 1 But the Panthers are equally as bad that they never threaten. Like, if your quarterback throws three picks like that in the first half, you should be down two scores.
Yeah, for sure. And they weren't.

Speaker 1 And I think it's a testament. The Niners' defense.

Speaker 1 They lost every guy basically at the beginning of the season. They're very young.
I think Robert Salah, sorry, memes, is a very good coach.

Speaker 1 And they're playing some good football. Like, they were flying around the field.
Bryce Young was also not good. But

Speaker 1 it was one of those games where I was like, are the Niners, is this defense kind of turned a corner here where they're now just, and especially Brock Purdy can be better than what he was last night.

Speaker 1 I do want to shout out this one guy who treated me during the game, P.T. Sports Talk.
He was exactly right. He said that the thing about Brock Purdy is he throws the best interceptions

Speaker 1 because they always feel like they're about to be like the coolest, biggest play possible. Like he doesn't throw, he doesn't throw, you know, interceptions at the line of scrimmage.

Speaker 1 He's dropping back. He's putting his foot in the ground and he's launching it.
And you're like, oh, this timing is perfect. It's going to be so sick.

Speaker 1 And usually his interceptions outside of the third one are like

Speaker 1 very close to being receptions. You know what I mean? It's like two guys standing in the same place and the defensive back gets it.
It's not like he threw an interception and there was just one guy.

Speaker 1 None of his receivers were around him.

Speaker 2 JC Horn made a couple really good plays on the ball, which that was a big part when he got injured and had to come out for the second half because it seemed like he was just catching everything out there.

Speaker 2 But yeah, you're right. When Brock Purdy throws a pick, he does a lot of the

Speaker 2 run forward, jump off the wrong leg like he sees something. Yeah.
You know, he's got to get the ball out because there's a big play out there. So you have confidence.
You know who was like that too?

Speaker 2 Taylor Haneke. Taylor would like point downfield, be like, I got you.
And then he'd throw the ball to three guys.

Speaker 1 If you could throw the pick out of the TV's immediate window, it's a kind of a good pick because you're taking a shot. Yeah.
You know, it's the picks that are, you know,

Speaker 1 Joe Flacco's pick against the Patriots on Sunday.

Speaker 2 That's bad.

Speaker 1 Where it was every linebacker.

Speaker 1 The camera operator does not have to move anything. You can see all of the offensive linemen in frame.
That's a bad pick.

Speaker 2 We also had a penis touching gate last night.

Speaker 2 Does the NFL have have a penis touching problem?

Speaker 1 Well, so I was going to ask you,

Speaker 1 the headline on ESPN right now is Juwan Jennings pushes Travion Morig in face mask after 49ers' victory over Panthers. I don't think that's the story.

Speaker 2 That's not the story. You know that meme where it's the media and it's got the camera that's pointed at a guy stabbing somebody and then you zoom out and it's actually the opposite.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 And the other guy's trying to stab? That's what's happening with this. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Juan Jennings got punched directly in the dick.

Speaker 1 Directly

Speaker 2 like uppercut in the dick, like Mortal Kombat toasty right in the bell end. And credit to him.

Speaker 1 And it wasn't just,

Speaker 1 it looked like,

Speaker 1 I guess just his wrist is very taped up, but it looks like almost like a club. He just got him perfectly.

Speaker 2 I think he got his hand taped up so that he could be better at dick punching. Yeah.
Now, we saw this in the

Speaker 2 Cowboys Eagles game, too. You see George Pickens?

Speaker 1 Yeah, you guys dick grab.

Speaker 2 He got tackled by his penis, and we need to put into place, you know, illegal contact to the helmet for wide receivers as well when they're blocking, when they're running with the ball.

Speaker 2 That should be looked at as targeting. But credit to him for not just going wild on the dude for doing that, because that was pretty obvious that he did that on purpose.

Speaker 2 Kyle Shanahan said, yeah, the guy took a cheap shot and hit him in the balls. I was real proud of Juwan for not losing his mind out there.
Credit to him. Yes.
I would have lost my mind.

Speaker 1 I would have lost my mind.

Speaker 2 I would have just fallen to the ground. I would have cried.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I would have been on all fours, you know, putting your ass up, trying to get in that position where you would have been popping it.

Speaker 1 Well, yeah, you know, when you get hit really squarely in the balls and you're, and you have to get on all fours and you're kind of, you're kind of popping it, you're kind of shaking it, just trying to, you're almost basically just trying to yoga it out.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I probably, judging by where that hit, I probably would have understood that I got hit in a place where my balls should be, but it would have missed, and then I would have been like, oh, I need to act like it hit me in my balls so that nobody thinks I have small small balls.

Speaker 2 Yeah. And then crumpled to the ground.

Speaker 1 I just realized, like, it's the most meathead thing to say, like, I'm so straight, the only yoga I do is when I get hit in the nuts.

Speaker 1 That's how straight I am. Makes me want to puke.
Yeah. The only time I've ever been in that fucking pose is when I'm getting hit in the nuts by my boys.
What are you going to say, Hank?

Speaker 1 Do you have your hand up? Your hand is up. Hank, you've done Pilates.

Speaker 2 Have you done yoga?

Speaker 1 Yeah, good amount of yoga. Hank, for people who don't,

Speaker 1 for people who skip our ads, which I wish they wouldn't, how would you say that it went this morning, the start of this? Bad.

Speaker 1 Yeah. For people who skip our ads, can you give them context?

Speaker 1 I needed to have a game time game up, and

Speaker 1 my app was just, you know, stuck on the homepage.

Speaker 1 It's early. It is early.
We're taping this at 8:50. Guys got flights.
Guys got parlays. How'd your parlay do last night? Bad.
Oh. Whoa.

Speaker 1 That was mean. Hank,

Speaker 1 sucks. Sucks.
It's a bad feeling, right?

Speaker 2 Hank, I wrote a bunch of your parlays last time.

Speaker 1 That's what calls it out, right? What do you mean?

Speaker 2 How did your parlays? To just do the game time app?

Speaker 1 To make a mistake and get called out for. It's not a good feeling.
Well, that's a little different. I would say.
Hank, gambling versus just

Speaker 1 your job.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Hank, I took your parlays last night. Did your parlays hit?

Speaker 1 Do you know the answer to that question? So why the fuck would you ask me? You asked Big Cat that. You asked Big Cat that genuinely.
I didn't take his parlays, so I don't know. That's a lie.

Speaker 1 You know that.

Speaker 2 You would not have asked that question if you thought his parlay went, oh, here comes his Zarland.

Speaker 1 He probably also took it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. There's no way.

Speaker 1 Nice try, buddy.

Speaker 1 We know each other too well.

Speaker 2 Come on. Think about this game time ad at the start of every episode

Speaker 2 is that it either allows Hank to just adequately do his job, or it just makes Hank so angry at us because Zach had the game up and he didn't.

Speaker 1 I'm not mad at you guys. I'm never mad at you guys.

Speaker 2 All right, here's a little bit upset.

Speaker 1 Here's a fun fact. It is early.
It's so early that

Speaker 1 I asked Zach how his wake-up went this morning. So it's 8.30 in the morning because

Speaker 1 Zach and Hank, I think Max and Memes all have flights this afternoon, so we're trying to get the show done.

Speaker 1 It's 8.30 in the morning, and I said to Zach, what was the alarm situation this morning? Because it's pretty early, like getting up.

Speaker 1 Zach, what was your response?

Speaker 1 I believe my response was just,

Speaker 1 you were like, how you feeling on on this? I'm feeling good. You're like, it's early.
So I just had to follow up.

Speaker 1 This is pre-show. I thought it was safe.

Speaker 1 Executive decision was just stay up. So you just pulled an all-nighter last night? Yeah.
Because you didn't want to risk missing the alarm.

Speaker 1 I knew I've had like a couple late nights the last few nights, and you can't back up an early morning to the late night. It's just a dangerous spot to be in to risk

Speaker 2 messing up. So we figured you just have the latest night.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you just delete the night. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Get it out of there.

Speaker 2 Did you set an alarm just in case?

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 Okay, that was falling asleep with the thought of like, I'll stay up. Yeah.
And the stay up can like reset the sleep schedule sometimes. Yeah.

Speaker 2 That's facts. What's the bomb alarm situation like? Have you encountered the neighbor?

Speaker 1 I have not.

Speaker 1 Honestly, I hope we never cross paths because it's going to be uncomfortable. And I'm going to know that she hates me now because probably the alarm.

Speaker 1 But that's

Speaker 1 found out she might be the building manager. Oh, no.
Like we're in a spot. Is the boss lady? I think so.

Speaker 2 I think she is. Do you check your mail?

Speaker 1 Do I? Yeah.

Speaker 1 No, never. It's always other people's mail in apartments.
So I don't check it just because it's like everyone else's but mine. Yeah.
That's true.

Speaker 1 And if you don't, maybe you're opening the wrong mailbox. I got a key to it.
Okay.

Speaker 2 No, he's right, though.

Speaker 1 Like, if you just do get into an apartment, and like if you don't check it, you don't owe anybody anything. That's if you open that letter, you owe something.
That's right. I'm with that.

Speaker 1 He's right. He's absolutely right.

Speaker 2 Like, I've been fighting a month-long battle against LL Bean, in which I owe them, them, I think, now $1.60

Speaker 2 in delivery fees or return fees. And I had no idea that I owed them this money until recently.
And now it's like pass due, pass due, pass due. I owe you $1.60.
I'm not paying it.

Speaker 2 I decided I wasn't going to pay it because, number one, I didn't know that I owed them that money for like, actually, it's from last Christmas. So I've owed them for like 12 months.

Speaker 2 Then I got on the phone with them. And you know what they said? They said, well, wipe it off, sir.
Oh, hell yeah. Forget about it.

Speaker 2 So, I just, so it's an effective strategy to just delay, delay, delay. And then ultimately, they'll be like, Yeah, okay, you win.

Speaker 1 I think that's the right move. And very, and also on Ella Bean's part, well done.
Well done to them.

Speaker 2 They'll be like, Okay, sir, you've got tremendous mail discipline.

Speaker 2 We do not want any part of that smoke that you have for us.

Speaker 1 So, keep that up. I just

Speaker 1 don't look at mail, but I also know it's like that situation. Remember when Dwight got fired in the office and then everything fell apart?

Speaker 1 Like, my wife is just like, I think that I actually am am funding the city of Chicago with my red light cam because I just, I get multiple on the woodwork every day. So, she just pays those.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, if I didn't open, I don't open my mail, but I know someone opens my mail. So, I'm okay.
Yeah. You're just running everything? It's not even run.

Speaker 1 Like, it's, I'm, I'm stuck on one, it's red light cams where if you get even like a little bit in the middle, you know, you get banged.

Speaker 1 And then, two, there's some speed, they have speed trap ones too,

Speaker 1 where if you go 36 and a 30, you get busted. 36 in a 30 is not,

Speaker 1 that's like stepping on the gas a little bit.

Speaker 2 Here's the problem with Chicago and the red light cameras, because I'm in the same spot. My car ended up getting towed like three months ago because of all these tickets.

Speaker 2 It's a city that culturally celebrates and demands that four people make a left-hand turn as the light turns red. Always.
And if you don't, then you get honked at.

Speaker 2 I'm used to like one or two cars doing it. In Chicago, it's usually like three or four.
You gotta go. You have to do it.

Speaker 2 Culturally, it's a very important thing to the city to make that left-hand turn.

Speaker 2 And then they also ding you because there's red light cameras everywhere that take the picture of your license plate if you make that left-hand turn.

Speaker 2 So everyone in the city just owes money to the government, which probably goes to UAE or whoever they sold the red light cameras to.

Speaker 1 Yes. Yeah, I'm, I'm, my, my, my, um,

Speaker 1 yeah, they sold all the, all the parking tick, the worst deal ever done. All the parking meters were sold to the Middle East like, yeah, I was like 15 years ago.
I came even more like so stupid.

Speaker 1 So stupid. Like how could this, how could this possibly be something we'd want to keep the money from in the future?

Speaker 2 In perpetuity.

Speaker 1 In perpetuity.

Speaker 2 For the for the remainder of the parking meter's life.

Speaker 1 I'm basically my commute to work is I'm like Sonic getting hit with his coins falling out. There's like four different spots along my route that I get hit and my coins fall out.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Are you saying there's automated speed cameras? Yeah. You're not even getting hit by a police officer.
No, it's just, it's just, there's some like school zones, and it's just,

Speaker 1 I'm not speeding. I know people are going to be like, holy shit, you're speeding.
Every single time it's. You might be speeding.

Speaker 1 Every single time I look at

Speaker 1 the mail, well, it's already open for me. It's 36 in a 30.

Speaker 1 One

Speaker 1 mile an hour. Okay, Hank.
All right, I should have, I should have just told him about the game time at him. I should have warned him.
I should have warned him. Hank's so spice.

Speaker 2 He got so straight. He doesn't even look at the mail.

Speaker 1 He's taking, you're taking the side of the cops. You know, you just described speeding.
Speeding should be. Speeding is not six miles an hour.
That's not. What's the speed limit?

Speaker 1 That's flow of traffic. Oh, my goodness.
This is a losing argument, big cat.

Speaker 1 Abort, abort, abort.

Speaker 2 Hank's got

Speaker 2 his teeth sunk in right now.

Speaker 1 One game time out of day. We didn't need to bring it back.

Speaker 1 We didn't need a callback.

Speaker 1 Well, I mean, some people's.

Speaker 1 Hank,

Speaker 2 what percentage of the blame pie do you put on yourself? 100.

Speaker 1 Okay. What about us? Ah, there's a little on me.

Speaker 2 It seems like deflecting a little.

Speaker 1 No, it's 100% on me, but I can be a little bit like upset that my friend went out of his way to expose me for being bad at my job.

Speaker 1 You're not bad at your job.

Speaker 2 That's a very small part of your job.

Speaker 1 It's minuscule.

Speaker 2 It does happen every time.

Speaker 1 One mile per hour over the speed limit of your job.

Speaker 1 Okay, should we do real quick? I mean, college football, do you want to say a JMU?

Speaker 1 We're taping this early, so we don't know.

Speaker 2 Yeah, we don't know. You guys are in.
No, I'm assuming that we're going to get fucked. According to ESP and FPI, all that stuff, every computer has JMU in the playoff.

Speaker 2 Every computer, if you go back to the BCS computer from however long ago, when did they get rid of BCS? That was 2012? Yeah, something like that.

Speaker 2 But if you look at those models, if you look at the Sagarin models that would have us as like a four or five-point favorite over teams like Tulane or UNT, all the computers say that JMU should be in, but the committee has made it pretty clear that they just have a hard-on for the American.

Speaker 2 So whoever wins the American, I'm just assuming, is going to get into the playoff.

Speaker 2 I do think that it feels a little bit personal that Tom Fernelli keeps going out of his way to say JMU doesn't have a chance. Wow.

Speaker 1 And they should.

Speaker 2 It feels personal.

Speaker 2 Tom,

Speaker 2 something so inconsequential as who gets to be the sacrificial lamb from the group of five, you can just throw me a bone and maybe just don't like write full articles about how, hey, all you JMU fans, you're you're getting your hopes up for nothing.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that is, that is, you don't have to,

Speaker 1 we could, we could know that. You don't have to say that.

Speaker 2 There is one voter that has JMU, I think, ranked number eight or nine overall in the country. Okay.
And it's that same guy that we talked about from last year.

Speaker 1 Shout out that guy.

Speaker 2 Shout out that guy out in Wyoming or whatever.

Speaker 1 Tom also might just be dealing with the fact that

Speaker 1 Would you say that Luke Fickle's time at Wisconsin hasn't gone well so far?

Speaker 2 It has not gone well. Well, the last time.
we're going to be able to do that. November.

Speaker 1 November's great. Yeah, which I'm back on the trade, so this is not an anti-Luke Fickle thing I'm about to say.
But maybe Tom is dealing with the fact that

Speaker 1 fun fact, Luke Fickles never lost to Illinois. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's a fun fact.

Speaker 2 That's a very fun fact. I think that this

Speaker 2 Tom Fernelli's Don Quixote-like quest against James Madison goes back several weeks. It predates the loss to.

Speaker 1 But he was especially upset on Saturday.

Speaker 2 He probably was, so he's probably lashing out against the show at large. But yeah, I just don't think think that JMU is going to ⁇ I don't think that they're going to be in the playoff tonight.

Speaker 2 I don't think that they will be for the rest of the year. I think that

Speaker 2 we had a good win against the Cougars. They're a good team.
They're a feisty team. Ole Miss had trouble with them.
UVA had trouble with them. So, yeah, I just.

Speaker 1 I think North Texas, they're trying to get North to prop it up North Texas. North Texas also is just demolishing people.

Speaker 2 Their offense is really good.

Speaker 1 So good.

Speaker 2 That's the shitty thing.

Speaker 2 I have no hate in my heart for North Texas.

Speaker 2 I have no hate in my heart for Tulane, although their own coach said that they're not a very good football team and they should not be ranked uh i have no hate in my heart for the mempheses for the navies of the world for the usfs of the world uh

Speaker 1 but i just i've reached the point where i'm i'm kind of giving up right now i also am worried that we're getting to a point where there's going to be because you know they're i think they're meeting to decide if there's going to be a format change i think they're going to

Speaker 1 I think if the if the G5 team doesn't put in a good effort this year, they're going to try to kick out the G5 team, which would would suck. That'd be a bummer.

Speaker 2 That would suck. I hope that doesn't happen.
It's kind of cool to even be talking about it. It's kind of surreal to say that JMU is even in the fight to make the college football playoff.
But

Speaker 2 I am also looking realistically at the future, and I

Speaker 2 feel like your coach is probably going to be somewhere else next season.

Speaker 2 And if it's a great school, like Penn State, Max, if he's a Penn State coach or even UCLA, I think that that would cement JMU as being the number one destination for any up-and-coming coach if they want to get paid, which is a good spot to be in, but it does suck having to reload.

Speaker 1 And now

Speaker 2 they're coming at me for some money. And then people are going to be mad at me for losing coaches.

Speaker 2 I can't pay.

Speaker 1 Just tell them you called L.O.B. to not pay a dollar.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Good point.

Speaker 2 I can't pay Bob Chesney $7 million a year. I just can't do it right now.

Speaker 2 I'm in a legal dispute against

Speaker 2 men's outdoor companies. It's not in the cards.

Speaker 1 You're in a web. You're in a web of fleeces and duck boots.
I am.

Speaker 2 I'm getting fleeced.

Speaker 1 By the way, just another thing about North Texas. I have been betting them.

Speaker 1 I would tell anyone that enjoys offense and watching crazy football, North Texas is the one to go with because I took their team total over. It was, I think it was like 41 and a half on Saturday.
And

Speaker 1 they scored their first touchdown with 45 seconds left in the first quarter. So I was like, oh, I'm fucked.
They ended up with 56. They just rip off.
They just score, score, score.

Speaker 2 It's crazy. They are a fun team, which is why I can't bring myself to hate them.

Speaker 2 Big Cat, I heard a little rumor yesterday. I don't know if it's true or if it's going to happen, but it's being floated out there.

Speaker 2 So, James Franklin, one of the first things he's trying to do as coach of Virginia Tech, he's trying to get out of the game against James Madison next year. We have him scheduled.

Speaker 2 We beat him last time we played him, no big deal. But he's trying to get out of that game.
One of the schools that's being floated,

Speaker 2 whispered amongst certain circles in college football to replace that game

Speaker 2 could potentially be Wisconsin James Madison.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 oh, in Madison?

Speaker 2 I would assume it would be in Madison. Yeah, we'd have to go.
I assume we would have to go to the game.

Speaker 2 Right now, if you look at the projections, JMU would actually be favored against Wisconsin

Speaker 2 right now. Well, yeah, this year.
This year, this year. Yeah, this year.
Next year.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you have a borderline playoff team and we've won four games.

Speaker 2 It could be a different story. Now, I was talking to Igbo about it.

Speaker 1 I saw how you can't say right now that there were going to be different teams.

Speaker 2 Right, but it's going to be different teams, probably a different coach for us.

Speaker 2 If JMU beat Wisconsin, how mad would you be?

Speaker 1 It would depend on what the rest, it would depend on how it looked and who our quarterback was.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 there's a lot up there.

Speaker 2 Because that's the true definition of

Speaker 2 there's no lose for me in that game.

Speaker 1 No, there's no lose for you in that game. No,

Speaker 1 it would be,

Speaker 1 if you'd asked me this like 10 years ago, I'd be like, I'd be devastated. I cannot believe that happened.

Speaker 1 The gap has gotten a lot smaller. I mean, Wisconsin's been not good for the last five years.
I have high hopes for next year.

Speaker 1 I think that the way they finish this season, they can get the axe against Minnesota. It could be good momentum.

Speaker 1 So it kind of depends, like, what our transfer port will look like, what our quarterback looks like, all that stuff. You'd have to ask me the day before the game.

Speaker 2 Yeah,

Speaker 2 if that game does end up happening, I want to make a tattoo bet. But against J.J.
Watt, and if JMU wins, he has to get a Big Cat tattoo. Big Cat Williams? Big Cat Williams, yeah.

Speaker 1 Did you see the 670 score clip? I did see that. That was quite something.
That was funny.

Speaker 1 So for people who don't know what we're talking about, JJ Watt on Sunday gave me a shout out during the Bears Steelers game.

Speaker 1 He was like, the Bears are down so many linebackers, they're going to have to call Erlacher Big Cat. Now, there was a player who played for the Bears, James Big Cat Williams.

Speaker 1 So one person, Dwight Sox Dave, was like, oh, that's who he's talking about. The context is JJ and I were texting during the game.

Speaker 1 Like, I was texting him at halftime being like, you know, you're doing a great job. Like, I actually think he's really, really good at announcing.

Speaker 1 670's score had James Big Cat Williams on the show on Monday being like, what'd you think about that shout out?

Speaker 1 You have to be so oblivious to just, or hate, you've got to hate us so much to be like, Barstall could never be in the picture here.

Speaker 2 Well, the funniest part about that whole exchange was the fact that you were probably the one person most responsible for anything in White Sox Dave's life.

Speaker 2 And he's sitting next to you. Yeah,

Speaker 2 you host a Bears podcast with him. Yeah.
And he's sitting next to you and JJ shouts him out. He's like, he wasn't talking about you.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he wasn't talking about you. He wasn't talking about you.
I do love White Sox Dave made it all right because he got me,

Speaker 1 he baked me banana bread for Victory Monday. And it was really good banana bread.
He's actually a really good banana bread baker. That's crazy.
But it was just very funny because I do not care.

Speaker 1 It's totally innocuous that this clip exists now.

Speaker 1 It's just more like either your head's in the sand or you just hate us so much that you're like, we'll never acknowledge Barstool to the point that we're going to have an entire segment where we just got it wrong.

Speaker 1 Yeah. But I love it.

Speaker 2 But yeah, JJ, get the big Cat Williams set.

Speaker 1 Oh, here comes Hank on the side of the 670 score and the police. Go ahead and say, Hank.

Speaker 2 What does Gaz say?

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 What do you think? What did Gaz tell you? What do you got? What do you got? Nothing. No, no, come on.
Come on.

Speaker 1 I wish if I could go back in time, the two. First thing I would do.

Speaker 1 Hank is at his best

Speaker 1 on these shows, so I like exactly what has happened so far to start this show. First thing I would do if I go back in time is I would kill baby Hitler.

Speaker 1 Second thing I'd do is not bring up the Game Time Ad Read again.

Speaker 1 Actually, I might flip those. What happened in the Game Time Ad read? Shut up.

Speaker 1 I like Hank in these moments. He's good.
It's good podcasting. Like the fact that there is a Big Cat Williams, like, it's not cool.
I don't think they were, like, slighting you. No, no, no.

Speaker 1 But, like, the White Sox Dave was dumb for saying that. Yeah.
I don't think 670, the score. I can see a world where, like, old school radio people.

Speaker 1 They know we exist. Yeah.
And he, I mean, big cat Williams played offensive line.

Speaker 1 So that does. If he was a linebacker, I totally agree with you.

Speaker 1 So. Okay.
Yeah. I didn't know that.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Either way, it was very funny. Because I just, I kind of, you know, we haven't had people just outright hate us or just ignore us to the point where, like,

Speaker 1 it felt very old school

Speaker 1 where traditional media would just pretend we do not exist at all, which, I don't know, I got it, got a little excited about it.

Speaker 1 Like, when Coward would fuck up our names on purpose? Yeah.

Speaker 1 It just kind of gives you, it gives you a little pep in the step, like a little back to like the underdog, you know?

Speaker 1 Top sports podcasts.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we don't get those. I like having a little chip on my shoulder.

Speaker 1 We need to have some more rap poison around. I mean,

Speaker 2 we got another podcast that's coming for our ass.

Speaker 1 Who?

Speaker 2 Watch your ass because it's a podcast that's available exclusively on X, the Everything app. Okay.

Speaker 2 Rushmore.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 I saw that.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah. The Rushmore podcast.
So it's a group of guys that sit around, they debate the top four.

Speaker 2 Wait, is Edelman in? All these different categories.

Speaker 1 No, it's like the biggest industry plan podcast. It's like Ari Emmanuel.
It was going to hurt me if Edelman was in it.

Speaker 2 No, it's like Ari Emmanuel.

Speaker 1 They have the greatest guest list of all time.

Speaker 2 Al Michaels was on the most recent one. I think it's Bullshit.

Speaker 1 Brady May.

Speaker 1 I thought it was Brady's podcast.

Speaker 2 Well, this is Elon. It's Elon Bucks.
He's trying to make podcasts on X the Everything app a thing. And so he's paying money out of his asshole to people.

Speaker 1 Can I say it's kind of fucked up that like, you know, really famous people get podcasts and then they can just get their own friends on and they don't really have to book guests.

Speaker 1 It's kind of fucked up.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 If you're a really famous person to start a podcast, you should have to interview regular people. You produced by Pat McAfee.
What does that even mean?

Speaker 2 You know what? Regular people like us, like if you

Speaker 2 want to play the game on expert mode as a celebrity, you should be a celebrity with no friends.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Like, I have zero connections. I'm an asshole to everybody, but I'm going to try to get guests.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they just got that. The host is Ari Emmanuel.
He knows every famous person. Al Michael, Stephen A.

Speaker 2 Yeah, if you get a call from Ari Emmanuel, hey, will you come on my podcast? You like in your contract, you have to say yes to that. Right.
Also, I love how Elon put himself in the graphic, too.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And McAfee's producing.
What a producer credit. I mean, good for him.

Speaker 2 Went in that beak, but.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Okay, all right.

Speaker 1 We've been weaving some idiot jazz. We still are technically talking college football.

Speaker 2 We invented the concept of listing your top four favorite things.

Speaker 1 Yes, we did. I have one last thing about college football.
Then we'll do hot seat cool to run and then talk some NFL. I don't, there's going to maybe be a problem for a two-loss team here.

Speaker 1 There's going to be, there's some issues that are

Speaker 1 coming ahead. Like, even if, like, Michigan beats Ohio State, the, you know, there's the, the combo of Vandy,

Speaker 1 Utah,

Speaker 1 Michigan,

Speaker 1 Alabama might not be safe. There's like one of these teams, I think it will all get sorted out.

Speaker 1 But if all the favorites end up winning on rivalry week, which never really usually happens, you could have some quality two-loss teams be on the outside of the college football playoff.

Speaker 2 Is Ole Miss in trouble?

Speaker 1 Ole Miss, if they lose, I think they're out.

Speaker 2 I think so, too. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because I think they also don't know what's going to happen with Lane.

Speaker 2 And the ACC doomsday scenario is still in play right now, where it looks like everything could get fucked up.

Speaker 2 It's really if UVA loses to Tech. That's the big one.
That's the big domino. That's a big domino.

Speaker 2 And then, yeah, you've got Miami and Pitt. That could get bad for Miami.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's going to be a crazy weekend. I do like having some of the historic rivalries played on Black Friday.

Speaker 2 I know that I said that I thought Texas AM was going to demolish Texas on Friday. I had a lot of people very upset with me for that to the point where now I'm rethinking my stance on it.

Speaker 2 I'm getting bullied out of my

Speaker 2 AM will slaughter Texas take.

Speaker 1 Here's the thing about Texas AM: I think they're a very good team.

Speaker 1 They somehow got the greatest luck of the draw in scheduling possible.

Speaker 1 They have not played a single team in the top eight of the SEC. Right.

Speaker 1 And it's not their fault, and I'm not blaming them. Again, I think they're a really good team, but there is a little bit of an unknown.

Speaker 1 They played a couple of those teams when they still were thought of differently, like LSU.

Speaker 1 But it's crazy to look at their schedule and how it broke their way. And they didn't have to play Bama.
They didn't have to play Ole Miss. They didn't have to play Georgia.

Speaker 2 They look good against Notre Dame.

Speaker 1 They look good against Notre Dame. Yeah, no, they're a good team.
I'm just saying this is the first time they have to play a team in that top

Speaker 1 eight of the SEC.

Speaker 2 I think my problem is,

Speaker 2 you know, you fall in love with a team sometimes for certain reasons. And the second half of the game against South Carolina made me fall in love with Texas A ⁇ M.

Speaker 2 The fact that they were able to come back.

Speaker 1 But it meant we're not giving credit for comebacks.

Speaker 2 But you kind of have to give credit to that state trooper.

Speaker 1 But we're not giving credit to comebacks anymore. That's true.
We said that as a podcast. We are no longer giving credit for comebacks.

Speaker 2 That was a super impressive loss by South Carolina.

Speaker 1 Great, great lead they gained.

Speaker 2 I don't think that Michigan has a chance this week.

Speaker 2 Oh, I disagree. You disagree? Yeah.
You think that Ryan Day is going to go into this game? You think he's going to do the thing where he's like, I'm going to be Michigan. I'm going to.

Speaker 1 No, no, I think they'll do. I don't know the status for Jeremiah Love.
So, Carnell Tate and Jeremiah Love missed, they missed last game.

Speaker 1 It's kind of up in the air. I think everyone assumes they'll play.

Speaker 1 I just think that

Speaker 1 if Michigan keeps it close in the beginning of the game or even gets out to a lead, I think Ryan Day, I think Ohio State is going to win, but I'm taking Michigan plus 10 and a half.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I mean, that's a lot of points.

Speaker 1 You were saying Jeremiah Love, right there. Oh, sorry, Jeremy.
Yeah. Jeremiah Love is the Heisman, obviously.
I meant Jeremiah Smith, but Jeremiah Love, Heisman, you know, algorithm.

Speaker 1 Put this next to Siri. Let me hear, hear, have your Alexa hear me say Jeremiah Love should win the Heisman and then get it in the algorithm.

Speaker 2 I agree.

Speaker 1 I think that the amount of tweets, by the way, that I've been fed on the algorithm since I started tweeting about it is hilarious. I've just been smashing retweet.

Speaker 1 The algorithm is so powerful. I honestly think no one's talked about anything but Jeremiah Love for Heisman.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Since I talked about it,

Speaker 2 I agree. I think that Ohio State won't cover, but what is the weather?

Speaker 1 I think it's gonna be cold. I think it might be a little windy.
It might be a little cold.

Speaker 2 Are we getting snow?

Speaker 1 It's gonna be man football.

Speaker 2 If we get snow, then all bets are off.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I we might get snow.

Speaker 1 I think

Speaker 1 Ryan Day, there's he's he's

Speaker 1 he's gonna pucker up. Like, it's not that he's gonna go in with the same game plan.
If it's tight, you know, the mental edge is gonna go Michigan's way.

Speaker 1 I think Sharon Moore's not a very good coach, so that's the only problem, but

Speaker 1 yeah, we're excited for Rivalry Week. Okay, let's do Hot Sea Cool Trone,

Speaker 1 and then we will get to our weekend preview. We're gonna start with all the Thanksgiving games.
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Speaker 1 I am drinking tropical punch. Henry.

Speaker 1 My hot seat is the New York Post. Okay.
Oh,

Speaker 1 what happened?

Speaker 1 They inaccurately put up a photo. It's a nice photo of Jerry O'Connell, Rebecca Romaine, and his daughters.
New York Post captioned it. Rebecca Romaine, Jon Stamos.
Oh, he's still getting coached.

Speaker 1 Take a selfie with their daughters. He was also with Jon Stamos.
I saw them. They did like a, if I can change, you can change.

Speaker 1 We can all change.

Speaker 1 I saw that.

Speaker 2 That feels like it was intentional by the post.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Fuck the post.
We stand with Jerry.

Speaker 1 What do you want us to do, Jerry? We'll fight someone for you. You know we will.

Speaker 1 I think we need to get a good, like, a good old-fashioned

Speaker 1 enemy we can go out after on Jerry's behalf. Because I think we're getting to the point of the fantasy football season where there may be a little too much infighting.
He's kind of coming at us.

Speaker 2 There's a little bit, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we need a common enemy.

Speaker 2 New York Post is a good one. Unless they're writing something good about us.

Speaker 1 Just let us know, Jerry. We love you, so

Speaker 1 we want to maybe come back together as a squad. Or just come watch some football with us on a Sunday.
That'd be nice. It'd be fun.

Speaker 2 It's probably not allowed.

Speaker 1 What are you doing, Hank?

Speaker 1 Oh. grabbing my cool throne.
We've spent too much time talking about the wrong knickknacks on this show. Knickknacks? Yeah.
Pattywax? Yep. Give a dog.

Speaker 1 Give a dog a hank?

Speaker 2 Give a dog a little hank.

Speaker 2 He woke me up this morning with little Hank in his mouth again. It's just adorable how much Blake loves you.

Speaker 1 We have spent too much time talking about those dumb dolls. It probably won't sell, but we have not talked about if you don't get one of the dog toys.
Well, no, you said it won't sell.

Speaker 1 Right. So they'll be available.
You're right. Well, you can get a dog toy, and if you actually want a nice gift of the podcast, we have these Mount Rushmore

Speaker 1 Max just assaulted in PFT.

Speaker 1 I'll speak for me.

Speaker 2 These are sick, Max.

Speaker 1 The paperweights. Mount Rushmore.
Mount Rushmore paperweights and low man trophies. These are awesome.
Yeah, Hank kind of looks like Gaz on there. I kind of look.
What do I look like? Stud.

Speaker 1 No, I don't.

Speaker 1 Hank does kind of look like Gaz on there.

Speaker 2 Memes. Zoom in.
Zoom in real quick.

Speaker 1 These are sick. Yeah, so we're going to have

Speaker 1 our Black Friday sale.

Speaker 2 Oh, shoot. I didn't bring up the game.

Speaker 2 I'm at a big cat because I didn't do my job promoting game time this morning. Dang it.
Okay, back to you.

Speaker 4 Is that Southern accent?

Speaker 1 Yeah, Southern accent. Oh, that's Southern.
That's Henry.

Speaker 2 Henry. I'm Henry.
I'm Henry. I didn't know to look up the game because we only do it every single time we do a

Speaker 2 podcast. We got it.

Speaker 1 we could

Speaker 2 now I'm angry and I'm lashing out a little bit, just a little tintsy bit.

Speaker 2 All right, back to you, Hank.

Speaker 1 So buy all this stuff.

Speaker 1 We're gonna have new merch. I think people have been asking for those camo

Speaker 1 sick hats, too. That are sick hats, camo sweatshirts.

Speaker 2 The premium hoodie that we got.

Speaker 2 Lots of premium hoodies.

Speaker 1 So we got some new stuff for everyone and the Hank doll. What?

Speaker 1 And also Stella Blue. We're going to be, we got some new sweatshirts.
We're going to have a discount on all the coffee. Maybe a golden mug.
Tune in.

Speaker 1 Everything. Everything's going to be great.
Okay, PFT, your hot seat Cold Drone.

Speaker 2 My hot seat is Cordell Stewart, Denard Robinson, all these offensive weapons, all these athletes that play the quarterback position, but are also elite at

Speaker 2 pass catching, your Julian Edelmans of the world,

Speaker 2 because there's a new sheriff in town. Ooh.

Speaker 2 Jameis. Yeah.
Jameis. I looked up these these stats for Jameis.

Speaker 2 He is third in the NFL in terms of yards per pass.

Speaker 2 He is first in the NFL for yards per route run.

Speaker 2 He is third in the NFL for his percentage of carries going for 10-plus yards. Wow.
He's doing it all. He's offered to play tight end.
I love it. Once Jackson Dart comes back, I saw this quote.

Speaker 2 I thought it was Jameis joking around. Then I watched the video of him offering to play tight end, and he's dead serious.

Speaker 1 That's That's awesome.

Speaker 2 He says, I like to consider myself an athlete. I believe I can make plays like that for this team.
If I need to play tight end, I can.

Speaker 2 I'll do whatever it is that's required for this team to have success. He was dead serious.
I love this. And he's the new slash.

Speaker 1 Yeah, let's get him out there.

Speaker 2 And then my cool throne is the Pittsburgh Pirates

Speaker 2 because the Pittsburgh Pirates made an offer. to Josh Naylor in free agency.
The Pittsburgh Pirates famously have not signed a big name free agent, I believe, since 2012.

Speaker 2 So they made an offer per Jeff Passon. Josh Naylor did not end up signing with the Pirates.
He ended up signing with the Mariners.

Speaker 2 But then the report came out that the Pirates did not actually make an offer to Josh Naylor. The Pirates just leaked information saying that they were making an offer.

Speaker 2 So their offer to Josh Naylor was simply... leaking news that they were making an offer to him.

Speaker 1 What piece of news?

Speaker 2 Just to keep their fans happy, when in reality, Naylor pretty much agreed to re-sign with the Mariners right after the World Series. The pirates were never a part of the equation whatsoever.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 But they were like, hey, just so you know, hey, fans,

Speaker 2 we're trying to spend money.

Speaker 2 Bob Nutting. No one wants to take our money.
We're making an effort. We contacted all the right people to let them know that we were thinking about it.
Don't be mad at us. We're trying.

Speaker 2 And it's the most Pittsburgh Pirates story ever.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Bob Nutting, you're a piece of shit, dude.
You're on our list.

Speaker 2 Big time piece of shit. That is such a.

Speaker 1 They just want to.

Speaker 1 That's so frustrating.

Speaker 1 I hate that so much. These guys are such pieces of shit.
Yeah. They really are.

Speaker 2 They really hate their fans.

Speaker 2 They actively hate.

Speaker 2 They look at their fans like idiots. Hey, you guys want to buy some $500 bricks?

Speaker 1 Cool.

Speaker 2 We're just going to smash them in a year. Hope that's all right with you.

Speaker 1 They're fucking... They're the worst.
And when Paul Skeens leaves, which he's going to,

Speaker 1 and they're going to be like, oh, we can't afford them. Oh, we couldn't afford to build around them.
They're the the worst. I fucking hate them.

Speaker 2 Yeah, here's the quote from Ken Rosenthal and Evan Dreelick.

Speaker 2 The Pirates never actually made an offer to Naylor, according to people briefed on the discussions.

Speaker 2 Just two weeks after the conclusion of the World Series, Naylor reached an agreement with the Mariners, five-year contract, worth an average of $18.5 million.

Speaker 2 The deal happened so quickly, the Pirates did not get seriously involved.

Speaker 2 But they want you to think that they did. Yeah.
Because that to them is as good as signing a free agent.

Speaker 1 Absolutely. It does in their head.
Okay, my hot seats is the Maui Invitational because we're in feast week and this Players Era tournament has completely cannibalized the Maui.

Speaker 1 And I understand it's probably hard to get to Hawaii, but the Maui used to be, the Maui means something to me. It's something special.
They're playing in a high school gym in Maui. The rims are soft.

Speaker 1 It's like a core memory of Thanksgiving week, but now you got

Speaker 1 the teams there, no knock on the teams, but they're not, you know, it used to be a Kansas was there or Kentucky or UConn was there.

Speaker 1 Now we have Boise and Washington State. Again, no knock on these teams because they showed up, but it's because this Players Era, is that what it's called? Players' Era? Yeah.
Tournament?

Speaker 1 Yeah, the Players Era. It fucking sucks.
There's not even a real tournament. It's not a bracket.

Speaker 2 It's the Players' Era Festival.

Speaker 1 It sucks.

Speaker 1 It's not a bracket. They just do it on pool play, and I hate it.
I hate it. So they've taken it away, and no one's in the stands there.
Feast Week used to mean something, man.

Speaker 2 Would you like it better if during the Players Era Festival, the coaches just wore the Hawaiian shirts?

Speaker 1 No, it's still not.

Speaker 1 When I tune into college basketball in these four day stretch, in this four-day stretch, I need them playing in a room that

Speaker 1 holds like 500 people. I need them in the ballroom.

Speaker 1 in Baja Mar. I need them.
Yeah. I need to see the Atlantis and people.
You know, I need to see a water slide when we come back from commercial. It's bullshit.
So, fuck the Players Era.

Speaker 1 Whoever created it, I hate you.

Speaker 2 The reason I don't like it is because.

Speaker 1 Unless it was Fox.

Speaker 2 It's my bad. This is my favorite.
This used to be my favorite, Big Cat's favorite week of the year. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 now it's not anymore because I can tell it's no longer his favorite, favorite week of the year. No,

Speaker 1 it's down on the depth chart, a favorite week of the year.

Speaker 1 The battle for Atlantis also got fucked. I know, that's what I'm saying.
Like, it used to be Maui and Atlantis. That was it.
Those were the things. And those were the tournaments.

Speaker 1 And now they just threw everyone in a sterile environment with no one there in Vegas, and they ruined the whole fucking thing. It sucks.

Speaker 1 Fix it.

Speaker 1 Fix it.

Speaker 2 It looks like it was founded by a guy named Seth Berger from Player's Era.

Speaker 2 Ever Wonder Studio and Seth Berger.

Speaker 2 He is the man.

Speaker 1 Fuck you, Berger. Stupid.

Speaker 1 That sucks. All right.
My cool throne is meeting chicks because we talked about Bill Ackman the other day. And Aubrey Huff, who is, I think his brain might be just gone.
Alpha Male? Yeah, Alpha Male.

Speaker 1 He came up with a better, can I meet you?

Speaker 1 And Zach, I want you to try this one. You ready for it? Yes, sir.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Fellas, next time you go up to a woman at a bar, do this. I've done this countless times, and it works nine times out of ten.
Walk up to the bar and stand confidently next to her.

Speaker 1 Order your drink from the bartender and immediately look into her eyes and don't break eye contact until she does. While looking into her soul, shout out to the bartender confidently.

Speaker 1 And please, my good sir, get this little temptress whatever she's drinking. So you following? You're getting her a drink? I'm following so far.

Speaker 1 Introduce yourself in a seductive and deep, confident tone, which intrigues her sexually, proving you're a confident man, not afraid to ask for what he wants.

Speaker 1 Then make an offhand remark, which should make zero sense given the situation. Her curiosity is now piqued.
I feel like you could do that. Yep.

Speaker 1 When the bartender delivers the drinks, ask him for a napkin and a pen while you're writing your name and number on the napkin.

Speaker 1 Speak these words in your best James Bond impression, which should be spoken seductively, slowly, calmly, mysteriously, and with a touch of cocky arrogance. Nice to meet you, sweet tits.

Speaker 1 And thank you for the drink. I'll be sure to get the next one when you meet me later at the bar I'm headed to.

Speaker 1 Just slide the napkin to her while graciously letting the bartender know to put your drink on her tab, then simply walk away, leaving the bar.

Speaker 1 Sounds like a dick move, but you'll be amazed how many times you'll get a text wondering which bar

Speaker 1 she should meet you at. It's like shooting fish in a barrel.
You ready for that? Do I have to say sweet tits? I think the sweet tits is mandatory.

Speaker 2 It's the most important part.

Speaker 1 I think it's the most important part. That one's got there's a lot of checkboxes on that one.
Yeah, you gotta, and you gotta basically trick this woman into buying you a drink.

Speaker 2 Now, Aubrey Huff wouldn't happen to be divorced, would he?

Speaker 1 Oh, like, probably multiple times.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah, who would have seen that coming? No. Yeah,

Speaker 1 he's just fighting with people online. Just getting upset.

Speaker 1 I feel like he was

Speaker 1 not very outspoken when he was playing, and then he just became that? I don't know.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I think he just got addicted to posting. Yeah.
I think

Speaker 2 he might be back on that speed.

Speaker 2 He was a big-time Adderall guy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he filed for divorce on your birthday in 2012.

Speaker 2 It looks like he's filed a couple times. Oh, okay.

Speaker 2 The sweet tits.

Speaker 1 Zach, you got this. That's going to be a tough one to pull off, guys.
I don't know if I got that in my bag. You got this.
Sweet tits.

Speaker 2 Guy is a kite during the team's 2010 victory as he struggled with the drugs.

Speaker 1 He uses performance dancing.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 2 He would take up to 100 milligrams of Adderall a daily.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. That's...

Speaker 2 He must have been just shitting non-stop.

Speaker 1 That's so much. Oh, that's right.

Speaker 2 I remember this. He was the rally-thong guy.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 He told everybody that he wore a rally-thong. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I don't want to speculate

Speaker 2 on a man's sexual proclivities,

Speaker 2 so I'm not going to speculate. Okay, that was good of you.

Speaker 1 Yeah. 100 milligrams is like...

Speaker 2 But we can all speculate. It's a lot.
That's insane.

Speaker 1 That's insane.

Speaker 1 100 milligrams, you're just, you're on the moon.

Speaker 1 I think I'm prescribed 15.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 And it's like i can't even i can't imagine i can't imagine how much what do you you just don't even he's seeing the world in like 4d creating tasks you'd be so dehydrated and just oh skinny now i i don't want to tell aubrey huff how to pick up women at a bar it seems like he's cleaning up and very happy with his big his love life um but wouldn't an easier way to be just to invade iran and then kidnap the women from the country and then bring them back here and then make them marry you yeah because he thought about that that's pretty easy Oh, he actually did.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that was his advice in January 2020: was to do that. So he's evolving.
Yeah. This is the kinder, gentler Aubrey Huff.

Speaker 1 He's actually kind of a pussy now. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Now he's just like making it.

Speaker 2 He's changed, bro. He's stealing drinks from women instead of kidnapping them.
Yes. So that's good.

Speaker 1 You fucking got soft on us. Pussification of America.
Aubrey Huff is just calling him sweet tits. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Zach.

Speaker 1 My Cool Throne this week could be. some could

Speaker 1 interpret this as cool, some could interpret this as a little bit warmer. Okay, but we have declared this is your hot seat first.
Oh, oh my goodness.

Speaker 1 This hot seat could be interpreted a little cool, a little warm. That's why the lines get a little blurred.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 the booth has initiated holiday break on the booth diet. Oh, that's well deserved.
Well deserved, boys.

Speaker 2 Mission accomplished.

Speaker 1 Full initiated holiday break. I'm going on the big O.

Speaker 1 It's official. I love the holiday.
I do this. I love it because I do it all the time where I start a diet like somewhere around early November and then Thanksgiving week comes.
You're like, I can't.

Speaker 1 I got to take a break from this for the next month and a half. I put in a hard like 10 days.

Speaker 1 We got to change. So we got to go back.
So you guys are break. You're on break.
For the record,

Speaker 1 any weight gained will be documented and then subtracted from the final weight goal. These pounds are outside of the challenge.
That's fair. So what was the total loss? I've gained weight.

Speaker 1 Yeah, what was the total loss? I'm up right now, but we're going to be up there.

Speaker 1 all gained.

Speaker 1 I think we're all up.

Speaker 1 But I'm going on.

Speaker 1 I'm taking the plunge. I'm doing it.
I'm doing it. So when do you do it? So are you going to restart the diet in the booth? Because then you could just be a hero, Max.
Yeah, no, I think

Speaker 1 I'm worried about losing too much weight. Yeah, that's an issue.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no,

Speaker 1 we're going to go through this journey together and

Speaker 1 we're going to figure out the peaks and valleys of what happens when you take the big O. Okay.

Speaker 1 Yeah, if you got super skinny, that would be fucked up. No, I'll.

Speaker 1 You'll stop. It'll be fun.
If I do get super skinny, it'll be fun for me to try and put on weight. It'll be so easy.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 What size shirt is too small? Like, what size do you get into? You're like, I got to cut this.

Speaker 1 No more big O.

Speaker 1 I mean, you. An XL, even an XL, I think, is too small.
I just need to

Speaker 1 look good in a 2XL. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's basically what it is. I'm a 2XL.
I could go to an XL if I could lose some weight.

Speaker 1 ever taught, I mean, a large one.

Speaker 1 That's a child.

Speaker 1 I've been a large since. I remember I used to be a large in the eighth grade.

Speaker 1 I was like, oh, yeah, this is good.

Speaker 1 Children wear larges. Men wear double XL.
It is true. Some people wear medium.

Speaker 2 I wear a large.

Speaker 1 That does look like a large.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I wear a large.

Speaker 1 It fits you great.

Speaker 2 I wear a large ones.

Speaker 2 No, this is a New Zealand large.

Speaker 2 New Zealand large. For some reason, New Zealand sizes are bigger.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay, what's your cool throne? It's like a bedtime shirt. Yeah.
Wow, Hank, all right. No, oversized is aimed.
It looks good on you.

Speaker 2 Yeah, the boys can't get a fit off, Hank.

Speaker 1 No, they can. They're just not.
Our guy Colton, he wears like 6XL.

Speaker 2 Hank's just lashing out right now. Never had as many compliments on my fit as I did the last time I wore this shirt.
So I was like, yeah, I'm going to wear it again. Just running away.

Speaker 2 But it is egregiously large. Yes, I agree.

Speaker 1 It's a sick shirt.

Speaker 2 Thank you.

Speaker 1 Congrats to the booth, boys. Job well done.
Mission accomplished.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 2 Memes is down.

Speaker 1 Talk memes. Yeah, I'm down.
Okay. Good job, memes.

Speaker 1 Max tried lumped us in. We're all up.
I'm down. Okay.
And Zach's up as well. Wait, I thought it was a team.
You did it as a group. I thought it was a team challenge, right?

Speaker 2 It's a team challenge. There's no odds.

Speaker 1 The team fell apart months ago. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Whose responsibility is the Phillies?

Speaker 1 Not pointing fingers. The Phillies broke the team.

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, the weddings broke Penn's team.

Speaker 2 No,

Speaker 2 it was the Phillies.

Speaker 1 We're going on the big O's. Everything's going to be

Speaker 1 figured out. We are or or you are.
We

Speaker 1 can we get Max.

Speaker 1 It's a collective. Can we get Max in a commercial? For the big O? Yeah, that'd be sick or Majaro or whatever.
Sure. We did have a sponsor that was coming on.
Yeah, I think I fell thoroughly. It did.

Speaker 1 Oh, let's get it back on.

Speaker 2 It's going to be like the Oakland. No, that's loud.

Speaker 1 I want to try to do TRT. It's going to be so funny.

Speaker 1 I'm going to try to get on TRT.

Speaker 2 I love the idea of you guys just injecting each other with a big O.

Speaker 2 Like it's Kiseko and Maguire doing steroids.

Speaker 1 We'll see. The big O is going to be big O is going to be a journey.
Do you take

Speaker 1 anabolic steroids with the Big O to counteract any tiny traits? So like we go. I want the TRT.
TRT? Good cook. That could be fun.
That's what I'm looking for.

Speaker 1 I like that our New Year's resolutions is just going to be like, let's just start injecting each other with things. Yeah, listen.

Speaker 1 So we shave a couple of years off to the end of our lives. I think I might be gaining some years.

Speaker 1 I think I might be gaining a lot of years. There you go.
Yeah. Think about it like that.

Speaker 1 Okay, your cool throne zach my cool throne today is the indie uh india's women's blind cricket team they just won the world cup whoa shout out to them yeah against other blind people yes

Speaker 1 that would be sick if they won it against yes seeing people that would be insane that would actually be impressive but this indians women's blind cricket team is so impressive that i don't count that out against other cricket teams but yeah world cup world champions i love that how do you uh how do you know the ball is coming to the ball so it beeps it no it uh jingles there's stuff inside the ball it'll jingle.

Speaker 1 They've got a B1 position, B2 position, B3 position. They have to have more than four B1 spots on the team.
They met that criteria. B1 is completely blind.

Speaker 2 B2 is you can see two meters. B3, six meters.

Speaker 1 I love that.

Speaker 2 I love that. Now, how did they enforce that?

Speaker 1 You're talking about the vision? Yeah. I think I would assume you go through some tests there, and then there's probably like a little bit of honesty.

Speaker 1 Maybe you throw.

Speaker 1 I don't have the official tests. I was going to say maybe they threw cricket balls from different distances, but that seems like that could be counterintuitive.

Speaker 2 To see and see if you flinch. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like throw it at you. Jump and try to move out the way.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 I guarantee you there's been some crazy cheating scandals in the world of blind cricket.

Speaker 1 Oh, vision. Definitely.
Yeah, vision.

Speaker 2 Definitely some vision. But good for them.
Congratulations. Session Tundlecar is very happy right now with them, I'm sure.
Congrats to them.

Speaker 1 Huge feat. Shout out.

Speaker 1 Okay,

Speaker 1 let's talk some Thanksgiving. So

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Speaker 1 For additional terms and responsible gaming resources see dkng.co slash audio limited time offer okay boys thanksgiving we ready very ready good games so ready like thank you shout out the cowboys sorry max but shout out to cowboys for winning that game on on sunday and giving us a good game that has meaningful things we got a great slate ahead of us on thanksgiving i think it might be the best we've had in a long time as bad as the slate is going to look on sunday you're you're getting repaid on thanksgiving for it yes so first game Packers, two and a half point underdogs at the Lions.

Speaker 1 Overuns, 48.5.

Speaker 1 The Lions are wearing their throwback jerseys, which I don't really like. You know, the Thanksgiving ones.

Speaker 2 The thing is, I've got

Speaker 2 so many memories of the Lions losing in those uniforms on Thanksgiving. Yep.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 1 I agree.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 I'm looking at this game, and all I keep thinking about is the Lions defense had to have, was on the field for 77 snaps

Speaker 1 two days ago.

Speaker 2 Yeah, against the Giants. Against the Giants.
They didn't look good against the Giants. The Packers haven't really looked that great against anyone recently.

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 1 No, they looked, I mean, they dominated the Vikings. And their defenses looked good.
They did. They did.

Speaker 2 Yeah, the defense looks good, but offensively,

Speaker 2 the Packers fans have many similar criticisms to how Eagles fans feel about their offense.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm more. I don't know what the Lion - like, are the Lions okay?

Speaker 2 I think that

Speaker 2 they're not the Lions that we saw last year.

Speaker 1 Yeah, their offensive line obviously is not as dominant, and it just feels like they're just a little a tick different, a tick off.

Speaker 1 I kind of like, I think the Packers might win this game. I just, I feel like the Packers defense is the best unit in this.
Well, Jameer Gibbs is so goddamn good.

Speaker 2 Yeah, Jameer Gibbs is the best unit.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Jameer Gibbs solely is the best unit.

Speaker 2 But I would say that the

Speaker 2 Lions, they need to get Jameson going.

Speaker 1 Yeah, zero catches.

Speaker 2 Jameson is, he's like the difference maker because he's going to stretch the field.

Speaker 2 And if you hit him deep, then you just start hitting Amon Ra on the underneath and let him just physically dominate people.

Speaker 2 They need to get him going. If they can get him going, and if Goff has enough time to throw without Micah Parsons coming up his ass, I feel like that's

Speaker 2 I would be confident in the Lions if they had a vertical passing game.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Jordan Love, by the way, has done very well on Thanksgiving. He's 2-0,

Speaker 1 71% completion percentage, 542 yards, 5 touchdowns, 0 interceptions, 127 passer rating. Those are his two Thanksgiving Day games.

Speaker 1 Also, just big picture, I was looking at the numbers. The favorites and the overs hit on Thanksgiving, which I don't know how I always lose money on Thanksgiving, but I do.

Speaker 1 But favorites on Thanksgiving... are 51-9 straight up and 40-20 against the spread since 2004.

Speaker 2 That's pretty crazy. That is, yeah.

Speaker 1 And then Rode favorites are 25-1 straight up and 20-6 against the spread on Thanksgiving since 2004, Rode favorites being the Chiefs.

Speaker 1 I saw that and I was like,

Speaker 2 how do I keep losing? Again, I feel like

Speaker 2 that stat right there is a Detroit Lions stat.

Speaker 1 Yes, that is. And the Dallas Cowboys when they stink.

Speaker 2 Yeah, the Lions being underdogs on Thanksgiving is probably

Speaker 2 that's happened a lot over the course of the last 20 years or so. For sure.
But it's a different Lions team.

Speaker 1 But it's also, remember, it's against the spread. We're not talking about straight, like, teams are just covering, the favorites are covering against the spread.

Speaker 2 Is Josh Jacobs playing?

Speaker 1 I feel like he was close to playing on Sunday, so I would say yes, but I have no inside information.

Speaker 1 Again, this is kind of weird because we're doing this early enough that we don't know everything in terms of injury reports and everything that's going on. So we're going to take some guesses.

Speaker 2 What's kind of crazy is that Wilson had 100 yards last week.

Speaker 2 That was the Packers' first first 100-yard game by any running back this season.

Speaker 1 Yeah, remember I said that

Speaker 1 since week 12 last year.

Speaker 2 Yeah, in a game that Josh Jacobs did not play. Yeah.
Kind of crazy. So I still think that Josh Jacobs is like,

Speaker 2 given the fact that they're minus their big play guy, their best receiver in Tucker Kraft,

Speaker 2 I feel like a lot's going to fall on his shoulders, Josh Jacobs from this point forward.

Speaker 1 Okay, the next game.

Speaker 2 Also, Jack White's performing the halftime show. Oh, is that it? If that matters, yeah.

Speaker 1 Make it the Corgi's. Well, yeah, Jack White and the Corgis.
Run it back? Back to back? That's what I'm saying. Yeah.
The halftime show for Thanksgiving should be like goofy shit like that.

Speaker 1 That's what we need.

Speaker 1 Or the kids versus mascot game. Yeah.
We watch that. Watch the hell out of that.
All right, next game. The Cowboys at home against the Chiefs.
The Cowboys are three and a half point underdogs.

Speaker 1 The Overrunner is 52.5.

Speaker 1 This is, again, shout out to Cowboys for winning that game because it does feel like this game is very consequential now. Excited to watch this game.

Speaker 1 I gave you the stat about the road favorites. I do feel like people are a little too high on the Cowboys.

Speaker 1 I want to take the Chiefs, but I also can't be hypocritical in my logic that the Packers are playing against a team that played in overtime in the Detroit Lions on a short rest.

Speaker 1 The Chiefs also played in overtime and now are on a short rest and traveling.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 this is the second game out of four in a row that the Cowboys have against teams that won 14 games last season.

Speaker 2 Pretty crazy. I don't know the last time that's happened, if it's ever happened before in the NFL.
It feels like maybe the first time ever for that, but they had the Eagles, obviously, last week.

Speaker 2 Then they got the Chiefs on Thanksgiving, then at the Lions, then against the Vikings.

Speaker 2 So pretty crazy that the NFL... put that in their schedule.

Speaker 2 So if you're a Cowboys fan, I guess you have an opportunity to bitch and complain about how the NFL is biased against you, but then you could look at literally everything else that's happened in the history of your team and say, okay, maybe they're not super biased against the Dallas Cowboys.

Speaker 2 But yeah, whoever wins this game,

Speaker 2 I'd say very much still alive, and they would be a team that you don't want to play. The team that loses this game, I think you can put the stamp on them.
Eliminated. You're done with them?

Speaker 2 Eliminate it. Well, I'm not done with them because I think both teams are playing good right now.
But given what the records are, I say, I personally say eliminated from playoff contention

Speaker 1 to the

Speaker 2 loser of this game.

Speaker 1 I disagree because I think that if the Chiefs lose, they could still,

Speaker 1 we were saying it, they got to go six out of seven.

Speaker 1 I think the Chiefs could still lose it and make the playoffs. I don't know if the Cowboys can, just by the nature of how packed the

Speaker 1 NFC feels at the top.

Speaker 2 You know, what's crazy is the last time these two teams played on Thanksgiving, you know who the coach was for the Chiefs?

Speaker 1 The last time these two teams played on Thanksgiving, who was the coach for the Chiefs? Schottenheimer.

Speaker 2 It was Schottenheimer. Schottenheimer.

Speaker 1 Wow.

Speaker 2 And now Schottenheimer.

Speaker 1 I say Todd Haley. I think you should talk about picking up, you know, MILFs at a bar.

Speaker 2 Yeah, on Thanksgiving? Yeah. He's got some Aubrey Huff in him for sure.
No, but it was, yeah, it was Schottenheimer's

Speaker 2 Marty. Now, now Schotti's coaching the Cowboys.
By the way, there have been some accusations of plagiarism towards Schottenheimer.

Speaker 1 Why?

Speaker 2 His post-game speeches, they seem to be lifted word for word, bar for bar from Pete Carroll.

Speaker 1 Oh, who he worked with. I was going to say, if it's from his dad, that's fair.

Speaker 2 That's totally fair.

Speaker 1 It stays within the family. It's like a recipe.
It's like your Nona's recipe for meatballs.

Speaker 2 And listen, every NFL coach takes something that they heard Bill Parcells say one time, and then they say it to their team.

Speaker 1 You are what your record says you are.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you just take those quotes. Let me shop for the groceries, all that stuff.

Speaker 2 You can lift it from either if the coach you're stealing from is your dad or if it's Bill Parcells, who's like kind of everyone's dad in the NFL.

Speaker 2 I don't think you can do it if that coach is still in the league. I agree.

Speaker 1 Coaching.

Speaker 1 But then the question is, is Pete Carroll still in the league coaching?

Speaker 1 Technically. Physically.
His body is there.

Speaker 2 Physically, he's on the side.

Speaker 1 Is he still with us? Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm excited for this game. I feel like the Cowboys have not.

Speaker 1 I feel like they've not played, and this might be just way wrong. Someone's going to tell me I'm way off.
I feel like they haven't played in a big consequential game on Thanksgiving.

Speaker 1 We're both teams, I mean. Although last year, did you guys play him? That was big.
No, the Cowboys stunk.

Speaker 2 Last year, yeah, the Cowboys were not good last year. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So it's either one or the other. Like, the Cowboys, good years, they play someone bad kind of thing.
But yeah, this is going to be a fun game to watch. I have a stat that is...

Speaker 1 I wonder, we should actually have a

Speaker 1 statistician on the show someday, or math guy, and just...

Speaker 1 Hit him with the dumbest stats and be like, does that mean anything? Because I know it doesn't, but I also can't.

Speaker 1 I would love for someone to explain to me why it means absolutely nothing, the sample size and all that shit. Patrick Mahomes, fun fact about Patrick Mahomes, he has never lost a road game

Speaker 1 on a Wednesday, Thursday, or Saturday.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 He's 4-0.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Crazy, huh?

Speaker 2 But he's never played on Thanksgiving.

Speaker 1 Nobody's played, obviously, Thursday Night Football.

Speaker 2 On other Thursdays. Yeah, wait, is this his first Thanksgiving game? I believe so.

Speaker 1 That's kind of crazy. You'd think they'd put him on there.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 I mean, yeah, they put him on all the other weird games. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 1 do you guys, who are you guys leaning towards in this game? You like the Cowboys?

Speaker 4 I think

Speaker 1 I like the over.

Speaker 1 Hank, you think this is a game that the Chiefs always win?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm a little bit burned by them not covering last week, but the Chiefs

Speaker 1 I like the Over, and I like the Chiefs.

Speaker 2 I like the Over, too.

Speaker 1 Probably not spread. Yeah.
But the Chiefs are losing this game.

Speaker 1 The Chiefs could still win the AFC West, by the way, if the Chiefs win out and the Broncos go 2-2 against the Chargers, Jaguars, Commanders, and Packers. That's not totally unreasonable.

Speaker 1 And,

Speaker 1 yeah. So that's not crazy.
And then, yeah, there could be. And then only one AFC loss is required.
I got to look at all of it. There's still too many games.
I can't get all the

Speaker 1 math down on the playoffs until we're like week 15. Yeah.
When we're like three games left, I can figure out all the stuff. It's just too many games right now.

Speaker 2 So my thesis on why the loser to this game will be eliminated from the playoffs is it's just, it's, you can't have the number five in the win column at Thanksgiving.

Speaker 1 Yeah. You can't do that.
Well, no, the Chiefs have six.

Speaker 2 The Chiefs do have six. I forgot about that.
Yeah. So that's my thesis for the Cowboys at least.

Speaker 1 So then you're back to agreeing with me.

Speaker 1 The Cowboys will be eliminated, but the Chiefs will not.

Speaker 2 No, I stand by that part of the take because I think that the Chiefs, that division,

Speaker 1 but it doesn't matter. They can still

Speaker 2 see it. I don't see it.
I feel like the Chiefs, this is a must-win. They're all must-wins for the Chiefs.

Speaker 2 Chiefs, man. They got to do it.
Also, last year on Thanksgiving.

Speaker 1 Goodell, Taylor Swift. Taylor Swift, dude.
The fucking

Speaker 1 Entertainment League. Super Bowl logo.
The colors. The colors of the fucking.

Speaker 2 Well, she's not playing the halftime show. So Goodell's mad at her for turning down the halftime show.
So he's taking it out on the Chiefs. Yeah.

Speaker 1 think about it hank uh last year on thanksgiving it was the cowboys and the giants because we remember it was yes it was drew lock against cooper rush it was the year before you guys played yeah who could forget that game drew lock versus cooper rush okay last game sunday uh thursday night football bengals at ravens ravens minus seven over under 51 and a half

Speaker 1 joe burrow back

Speaker 2 he's back i i don't think that he should be but he's back he's back

Speaker 1 just be competitive bengals bengals because we do on paper have a very exciting thanksgiving day games and this game is important in terms of happiness and uh that like that late

Speaker 1 night or early night sitting around everyone feels like shit you still got to be talking to family members like give us something and the the bengals have no trey hendrickson they have no t higgins in this game yeah uh they have jamar chase back they do have jamar chase back i think we were all hoping for

Speaker 2 another 450-yard performance from Joe Burrow.

Speaker 2 They should schedule this game for early in the season before the Ravens fix their defense. Yeah.
So I don't know if we're going to get that,

Speaker 2 you know, because last year it was two games that Joe Burrow, I think he threw for like 800-something yards in total, and they lost both the games.

Speaker 2 This is a, we'll talk to Stavi about it, but this is a must-look good for the Ravens offense. Yes.
You need the offense to do something.

Speaker 1 Lamar is 6-1 versus Joe Burrow. So So he kind of owns him.
The Ravens are going to be all perped up. Yep.
They're going all purple. I love that.
All perped up on a Thanksgiving night.

Speaker 2 Lamar also is like Garfield. He hates Mondays.
Yes. He just doesn't practice on Mondays.
It's the third week in a row where he just hasn't practiced.

Speaker 2 I'm assuming, since we're taping this Tuesday morning, he's going to practice today. I'm assuming he'll do whatever walkthrough or whatever it is the Ravens have scheduled for Wednesday.

Speaker 2 He just doesn't like showing up to work on Mondays, which is relatable.

Speaker 1 Yes, very much so.

Speaker 1 This could be the high, I think it's the second highest Thanksgiving night game in history in terms of over-under. So they're telling us it's going to be a fun game.
Yep. We deserve three bangers.

Speaker 1 We do. This really would be nice.

Speaker 2 The exact stats on Burrow for last year:

Speaker 2 he threw for 820 yards against the Ravens, nine touchdowns, and one pick. Lost both games.

Speaker 1 He was incredible. Yeah.
Incredible. Yeah, it's not his fault.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Max, Black Friday. You're You're going to be there.
I will be there. Thanks at game time.
Bears?

Speaker 1 Oh, what are the prices

Speaker 1 on that game, Hank?

Speaker 1 I was joking. That was a joke.
Bears and Eagles.

Speaker 1 Eagles are seven-point favorites. Over-unders, 44.5.

Speaker 1 How you feeling, Max?

Speaker 1 We just don't have a secondary right now. Neither do we.
I don't feel great about that.

Speaker 1 We lost both of our starting safeties. We were already down a safety, so we have one healthy.

Speaker 1 Sidney Brown is our only healthy safety on the active roster right now, which means we'll probably have to either bring up practice squad guys or

Speaker 1 move Cooper Dejean back there, which she hasn't done all year.

Speaker 1 So the secondary is an issue, but

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 1 This is a must-win. Yeah.
This is a must-win for

Speaker 1 the city will burn down if they

Speaker 1 are you going to burn it?

Speaker 1 I won't burn it, but I will see it. I'll just see it burn down.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 What's the difference between burning down the city in joy and burning down the city in despair?

Speaker 1 Vibes, for sure.

Speaker 2 You think it's worse?

Speaker 1 Unlike when the Eagles win the Super Bowl, it's purge. And it's like, you can do whatever you want

Speaker 1 and everything's legal.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 when the city burns down bad, very, very much illegal.

Speaker 1 Are you thinking like off a loss? Boys would be ready to go.

Speaker 1 You bounce back off a loss. Would rather you guys win?

Speaker 1 You guys have changed this argument a million times. You ready to change it again?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 I'm going to. Nick Siriani is 8-14 against the spread after a loss.

Speaker 1 Just changed it one last time on your ass.

Speaker 2 Wait, Max, are you saying that you think that the Eagles are going to lose?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 2 Oh, so you agree?

Speaker 1 Agree with what?

Speaker 2 That bouncing back after a loss is a big thing.

Speaker 1 We're just flipping it on you constantly.

Speaker 1 This is bullshit. I'm just not entertaining this conversation.
I have a good stat for you, Max. Favorites shut out in the second half of a game.

Speaker 1 So if you're a favorite in a game, you get shut out in the second half. They're 60% against a spread in their next game.
So that's the bounce back stat. There you go.
So you got a bounce.

Speaker 1 you got a bad bounce back stat and a good bounce back stat.

Speaker 1 Your bounce back stat sounds, although I don't really care if they cover the spread. It's a big spread.
True. Seven points is

Speaker 1 you win win the football game. There's a lot of leeway there with seven points.
I got two more crazy stats for you. Ready? This is this one we do all the time.

Speaker 1 Lane Johnson with and without Lane Johnson. The Eagles with Lane Johnson are 96 and 41 and one.

Speaker 1 And then without Lane Johnson, they're 12 and 24.

Speaker 1 The offensive line was horrendous last week. And then here's the craziest.

Speaker 2 A lot of flags. Here's the weirdest stat for you, Max.
You ready?

Speaker 1 Most flags under Nick Siriani ever. You ready for the weirdest stat? The Bears, since 2006, this is the third time that they have won eight of nine games.
What were the other two times?

Speaker 1 How am I supposed to win? The week before the double doink, and then the week of the double doink.

Speaker 1 That's pretty crazy. That is crazy.
Yeah, That's some little weird stat.

Speaker 2 Max, when it comes to the flags,

Speaker 2 do you find that the refs are calling ticky-tack stuff against you, like you're under a microscope? Or are you guys just, you don't have discipline?

Speaker 1 That was undisciplined. That was just sloppy.
I'm not blaming the refs. I mean, some people were trying to play that game.
That's not going to be me. I didn't say one time that

Speaker 1 that CeeDee Lamb defensive pass interference was actually offensive pass interference because he stiff-armed Cooper DeGene in the face as he was catching the ball, and that was pretty much a turning point in the game.

Speaker 1 I didn't say that one time on Sunday, and I'm not going to say it now. They just got to be better, they just have to be more disciplined, and we have to play a cleaner football game on Friday.

Speaker 2 You guys, like, from the offensive standpoint, I know you've talked about the Eagles a lot saying how it's broken. We need to fix it.
The first half, you guys weren't broken last week.

Speaker 2 The first half, you guys look good.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you can just do that.

Speaker 1 We've played a lot of football games like that this year, where it's been one half of football. It's just a lot of the, like,

Speaker 1 the Rams, we played one half of football in the second half. The Broncos, we played one half of football in the first half.

Speaker 1 The Cowboys game and the Broncos game were essentially the same game. Yeah.
A big problem is after the Broncos game, we got our ass kicked by the Giants. So I hope that doesn't happen.

Speaker 2 If you get out to a big game, a short week for that. That's true.
Good point.

Speaker 2 What, Max?

Speaker 1 I'm not entertaining.

Speaker 2 If you guys get out to a big lead in the first half, you should just not go to the locker room for halftime. Just stay on the sideline.
Hey, oh, big dom. And be like, we're not changing anything.

Speaker 1 But it wasn't even the first half.

Speaker 1 It was just a quarter. Like, the first quarter looked good, and then they looked like shit.
Like,

Speaker 1 the vibes were already going down after the first, like, after the third touchdown, like the very beginning of the second quarter. Yeah.
Can I do permission to do real talk?

Speaker 1 Shout out to CJ Stroud with everyone here. Can I do some real talk?

Speaker 1 Can we do some trusty real talk?

Speaker 1 So I think I've been pretty reasonable about the Bears this year and that I've enjoyed the fuck out of it, but I've also been like, okay, you know, we're beating some bad teams.

Speaker 1 We'll see how this goes. And I think part of my superstitious brain is like, stay in that mode where you're not expecting anything crazy.
You're not expecting big things.

Speaker 1 You have to stay in the mode of, hey, the shoe could drop at any time. This team is building to something, but probably a year away.

Speaker 1 Real talk, there's maybe been some thoughts in my head being like,

Speaker 1 why don't we just fucking beat the Eagles and go nine and three? Yeah. And like, just start fucking ripping on.
And why don't we just keep winning games?

Speaker 1 But I'm keeping those suppressed because I think superstitious-wise, I need to stay in that mode of, hey, this is so much fun. I'm enjoying the fuck out of watching the Bears, but overall,

Speaker 1 we're your way. All these things.
You're afraid of the feelings.

Speaker 2 You're afraid of the feelings that you're going to have if you win this game. Why don't we just beat the fuck out of the Eagles?

Speaker 2 We can just fucking do it.

Speaker 1 Why can't we do it? We can do it.

Speaker 1 We're in every game. The Eagles have no secondary.

Speaker 2 If you win this game, you're thinking Super.

Speaker 1 Kayla Williams is a good one. No, I'm not thinking.

Speaker 2 Oh, if you win this game against the Eagles? No. No.

Speaker 1 You should. You should beat the Super Bowl champs.
You're thinking Super. You should think so.
The Rams are so much better than every team in the United States. You beat the Rams this year

Speaker 1 of a block field goal. No, I'm not.

Speaker 1 I'm also sick of being.

Speaker 1 Don't let the field goal get blocked. You made the fucking play.
I'm sick of people being like, oh, well, it was a block field goal. And a return.

Speaker 1 Yeah, good teams just don't let that happen.

Speaker 2 Who is disparaging the blocked field goal?

Speaker 1 Everybody said

Speaker 1 that.

Speaker 1 I just said there's a block field goal.

Speaker 2 I think that if the Bears.

Speaker 1 No, no, no, you're wrong. Because they still have to play the Packers.
It's how they do against the Packers. That's like the final, like, if you,

Speaker 1 because Packers fans are doing the whole thing, like, oh, this is cute. The Bears are winning games.
Wait till we play them twice and beat them twice. That's going to be the real test.

Speaker 1 But this game, we'll see.

Speaker 2 No, if you beat the Eagles, you should at least consider the possibility of Supi.

Speaker 1 You should do. Yeah, you should You have to.
I'm not. Yes, but okay.
They won the Super Bowl. You guys can try to do this, but I'm not going to.

Speaker 2 No, but if you beat a Super Bowl champion team

Speaker 1 on the road. Passing of the torch.

Speaker 1 Got to beat the Packers.

Speaker 1 You guys weren't talking about the Bengals, Ravens the same way you were talking about Bears, Eagles, same spread. Well, yeah, because the Eagles, the Ravens didn't just win the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 I did real talk, and they took it in a different direction. I didn't back.
I stayed on Real Talk.

Speaker 1 They're going crazy.

Speaker 2 The Bears and the Eagles are both good. The Bengals are not good.

Speaker 1 I'm saying they're both.

Speaker 1 No, I know they're both the.

Speaker 1 I'm going back to reality.

Speaker 1 Real talk over.

Speaker 1 I'm very nervous about the Bears' injury. We don't know right now because we're taping on Tuesday morning, but I'm very nervous about the Bears' injuries.
We had no linebackers against the Steelers.

Speaker 1 We lost two during the game. I think Kyler Gordon and Jalen Johnson are probably still another week away or whatever it may be.
If the Eagles want to run the ball, they should be able to easily.

Speaker 1 I know, but the Steelers, the Steelers aren't like an insane running offense. They were just ripping off five yards of carry.
What would the Steelers...

Speaker 1 I'm saying, Max, that this...

Speaker 1 You have a lot of injuries on defense. We have a lot of injuries on defense.

Speaker 1 I think that it's going to be a very, very tough game for the Bears to win.

Speaker 1 Could they? But it's going to be a very tough game for the Bears to win.

Speaker 1 That's my honest feeling. It's my honest feeling.

Speaker 1 This is going to be a nice litmus test of

Speaker 1 can we compete with some of these teams that are on the upper half instead of everyone saying, look who you beat, you beat bad teams. Yeah, the Steelers ran for 186 yards, 5.2 yards per carry.

Speaker 1 Steelers aren't like the best running team.

Speaker 2 But they at least run the battle. We don't have linebackers.
They at least try to run the football. The Eagles sometimes just inexplicably, they just stop trying to run the football.

Speaker 2 Max, why are you upset about us not talking about the Ravens-Bengals the same way we're talking about this game? He's saying because the spread.

Speaker 2 I know the spread's the same, but I mean, you, you just,

Speaker 2 I mean, you just like you're the you hate the Eagles more than anybody else on this show right now.

Speaker 2 I just wish you're so you think you are the biggest doom and gloom guy right now for the city of Philadelphia.

Speaker 1 That is not the same. Also, that was real talk I was doing.
I wasn't doing, we were in a safe space where I was saying, why can't we just beat the Eagles? We're not going to beat the Eagles.

Speaker 1 Why can't we?

Speaker 1 And then you're thinking Supi. No.
You have to stop.

Speaker 1 Don't do this. This is the exact opposite of last year, by the way.
What?

Speaker 1 What are you talking about? When the commander started to go on a run and big cat, and PFT, you were like, oh, I'm not going to think Soupy. Yeah, I know.
I know. He said, guess what?

Speaker 2 He said, no. I was lying.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 I definitely was. I was just saying this is the thing.

Speaker 1 I'm telling you the honest truth.

Speaker 1 I'm telling you the honest. No, no, yeah, of course.
It absolutely is the exact same. And my reaction is the exact same as PFT.
Yes.

Speaker 1 I'm telling you the God's honest truth.

Speaker 1 The Packers are the, are the, the, because

Speaker 1 everything always just leads to the Packers beating the Bears. And it's, that's, you got to get over that.
I mean, if we're going to get over that.

Speaker 2 If we're going to draw parallels to last year, what would happen in this game is Jalen Hurts has to leave early, and then the Bears end up beating the Eagles with a weakened offense because they don't have their starting quarterback.

Speaker 2 And then now you kind of are thinking Soupy, but you also have in the back of your head the fact that it was kind of a bullshit win, but you still try to hold it over Max's head for the rest of the season, knowing that if you do play the Eagles again, they're going to kick the shit out of you.

Speaker 1 I wasn't going to say all that, but I was thinking. I mean, that's what happened.

Speaker 1 In reality, the entire time. I'm just getting deja vu because it's the entire time last year.

Speaker 2 I just had to keep saying, Jalen Hurts doesn't play defense,

Speaker 2 and then use that as the way to, I was taking the drug saying, just don't think about the fact that your win against the Eagles was an asterisk.

Speaker 2 But yes, there are a lot of parallels between last year and this year, but you got to think so.

Speaker 1 But I know, because the Commanders Commanders also were winning games differently than the Bears were winning games this year. That's just a fact.
The Commanders were like lighting teams up.

Speaker 2 No, no. In the regular season? The Bengals game?

Speaker 1 We were winning.

Speaker 2 That was a close game.

Speaker 1 That was a very close game. You lit them up.
You scored like 40 on them. Look at the Bears game.

Speaker 2 The record in one score games last year

Speaker 2 was insanely scored.

Speaker 1 What was the Bengals game?

Speaker 2 The Bengals game was Monday night in week three, and neither team punted, neither team turned the ball over. It was a shootout.

Speaker 1 You lit them up.

Speaker 2 Yeah, we scored a lot of points, but they scored a lot of points, too. That's the wrong season.
And then you look at the other close wins we had.

Speaker 2 We had a lot of them last year.

Speaker 1 42-14 against the Cardinals. 34-13 against the Browns.

Speaker 1 40-7 against the Panthers.

Speaker 1 18-15 against the Bears. Well, I'm going to be realistic.

Speaker 1 And it was coming. I mean, they lost the reality.

Speaker 1 I'm staying realistic that we Bears are a year away. I'm not going to go all in on

Speaker 1 this this is going to be the season.

Speaker 1 They have flaws on their thing.

Speaker 2 Barely beat the Saints. It came down to the very last play of the game.
Barely beat the Eagles with no Jalen Hurts. Bless me.
Barely beat the Falcons.

Speaker 2 And then barely beat the Cowboys.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 I'm realistic that this is

Speaker 1 23 in the NFC Championship game. Wow.

Speaker 2 Yeah. That was mean.
That's what it was. That was really mean.

Speaker 1 That was really mean.

Speaker 1 Next game, too, 48-18.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 2 In the preseason. Oh, in the preseason, yeah.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Getting killed. All right, Max, this will be fun.
So you're going to the game. I'll be there.

Speaker 1 I will be there. Let's just be cordial to each other, okay?

Speaker 1 You will not be cordial. I will be cordial.

Speaker 1 If the Bears win. I'll take it with Grace and just be like, hey.
I will take it with Grace. I will take it with Grace.

Speaker 2 Because we're supposed to win.

Speaker 1 You want to have a Grace off?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I will take it. I'll take it with more Grace.
For sure, take it with Grace. More Grace.
We're going to have a grace off.

Speaker 2 Max will take it with grace. He'll just go around talking to everybody, making the small talk.
Yeah. How's everyone's Thanksgiving?

Speaker 1 Oh, what you have? You're stuffing? What you doing? You're stuffing.

Speaker 2 That's a good point. It's very graceful.
It is very funny that Amazon sponsors the Black Friday game. Yes.
Like a holiday that they are actively trying to kill. Yes.

Speaker 1 Yes. Facts.
Okay, let's get to our interviews. We got Stavi.
Oh, no, we got to do our picks. Let's do our picks real quick.
Then we got Stavi and A-Rod.

Speaker 1 Everyone gets one pick for Thanksgiving Day games. Who's going first?

Speaker 1 That'd be Hank. Hank, you're up.

Speaker 1 One pick. One pick.

Speaker 1 Come on, Hank.

Speaker 1 I'm going to take the mudder fucking

Speaker 1 over. Give me an over.
Let's go over.

Speaker 1 Let's go with the Chiefs, Cowboys. Chiefs, a lot of defensive snaps.
Just played an overtime game. Short rest.

Speaker 1 Gonna be a lot of points scored.

Speaker 1 No matter how many, you know, how much the Cowboys go up, the Chiefs are going to come back so i like the i like the over 52 and a half okay all right i'll go over 48 and a half packers lions okay

Speaker 1 i'm just gonna take eagles minus seven

Speaker 2 i'm gonna take

Speaker 1 zach's up wait oh sorry i'll get i would like to take the ravens minus seven

Speaker 2 i'm going to take

Speaker 2 over 44 and a half in the Bears Eagles game.

Speaker 1 Okay, and I'll take the Packers plus two and a half. So let's get to our interviews.
And then on the other side of Stavi and A-Rod, we're going to do our weekend Sunday preview.

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Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very, very special guest guest and very good friend. It is Stavros Halkias.
He is a Hollywood star now. But we wanted Stavi on because we realized something.

Speaker 1 We asked you to come on. When you're in Chicago, you always come in studio.
We love having you on. But then when you're not in Chicago, we do ask you to come on whenever the Ravens are

Speaker 1 having a terrible, terrible time, losing in the playoffs, whatever it may be. We wanted to reverse it for you.
The Ravens are now top of the AFC North, 6-5, season back on, Thanksgiving night.

Speaker 1 So let's start with the Ravens. How are you feeling?

Speaker 1 We are back, but we're back. We're 6-5, and the whole division sucks, Dick.
Do you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 It's like the least, and not only that, but I thought this would be the best part of the season.

Speaker 1 Like, you know, when you're eating a fucking steak and there's the little fatty part on the side, and you just, you say to yourself, I'm not going to get through all all this lean cut.

Speaker 1 I'm going right for the gristly, fatty part. I thought I was gonna enjoy that right now, right? Because it's like, we're gonna beat up on these shitty teams, we're gonna win five in a row.

Speaker 1 I did manifest five in a row, by the way. I knew this was gonna happen,

Speaker 1 but I thought we would beat the fuck out of these teams, and we have barely eked out every single fucking win. Not one of them felt awesome.
Not a single one has felt like, holy fuck, we're back.

Speaker 1 I mean, Lamar, it's basically the team has flipped identities where it's like the first couple of weeks, it was like, our defense sucks, dick.

Speaker 1 You know, I'm doing like, I'm thinking about flying to Seattle and begging Mike McDaniel to come, or Mike McDonald to come back. I'm thinking about like, you know, that we're so fucked.

Speaker 1 But Lamar was looking like the best fucking quarterback that's ever lived, and we still couldn't win a fucking game. And as soon as he came back, we figured out our defense and shout out to, you know,

Speaker 1 I do,

Speaker 1 we, I do believe in this defense, I do believe in our coordinator. I do think, I mean, he's fucking young as shit, but he put it together last year.

Speaker 1 He needed a little, he needed to figure some shit out. I think our personnel moves have been really good, uh, that we just kind of shuffled it around to now we have a workable defense.

Speaker 1 And ever since then, our defense has been fucking awesome.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 I remember what this feels like. This is what the Ravens teams were like when I was a kid.
Awesome defense. I mean, the best player last on the,

Speaker 1 we beat the Jets, and the most impressive performance was our fucking punter. Shout out to Sam Cook.
He's the man, but it's like, it's he's, that was the best, that was the coolest play.

Speaker 1 The like most exciting play was that fucking coffin corner punt, which is awesome. Yeah, but it's like, we didn't, Derrick Henry had two touchdowns, but he, like, our line is fucking, it's dog shit.

Speaker 1 It's like, this is the most,

Speaker 1 this is the most, like, we, we like, this is the most like getting pussy with a limp dick I've ever had in my life. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 It's like, It's like when you mash your 40, when your dick gets to critical match, it's 51% hard, and it's just barely enough for penetrative intercourse.

Speaker 1 We are just, we did just enough to win five games, and it's not inspiring, and I'm a little worried because,

Speaker 1 look, we have to beat the fuck out of the band.

Speaker 1 I want to talk about a defense that sucks dick. It's like, but Lamar has looked a little banged up.
If we can't get our offense right with two Bengals games, I I don't know what the fuck.

Speaker 1 So it's like, yes, I feel good. Yes, I believe in my boys, but I thought this was going to be, these five games are going to be awesome.

Speaker 1 And I have a theory about why this might be good for the Ravens. But anyway, sorry, you asked me.
Give us your theory. Give us your theory.
Because I have a theory too. We have competing theories.

Speaker 1 Okay, so I actually thought that obviously you never want to start, you know, with

Speaker 1 one win, whatever. You never want to start the way we started.
But

Speaker 1 this team has always faltered when the fucking pressure starts, right?

Speaker 1 The deep, I mean, going back to when we lost the fucking Titans, the first playoff run, when Lamar really put his dick on the table and had that insane season. And then I was at that Chiefs game when

Speaker 1 Taylor Swift celebrated

Speaker 1 in M ⁇ T Bank. I was fucking there.
I was crying while they were having a great time. Every time we get to the point we need to get to, when it's like, all right, time for the next level,

Speaker 1 something happens. And I'm not one of these guys that says Lamar chokes.
I don't think that. I think he's had pretty good games.
But the team overall tightens up.

Speaker 1 Game planning is always a little weirder. Everyone plays a little tighter.
It feels more spiritual than it is X's and O's.

Speaker 1 And so we basically, to get into the playoffs,

Speaker 1 Every season, every game since 2-5 is a playoff game. Yes.
Essentially. And so we have an opportunity

Speaker 1 for the guys to feel this 10 games in a fucking row, what they went through, what they usually go through at the AFC Championship. And so I think that's good for us.
Having said that,

Speaker 1 I would have loved to get a couple just, I mean, yesterday was the game that really I thought, okay,

Speaker 1 the Jets fucking just traded their only good defensive players. We're going to, let's fuck them up at least.
And we couldn't get shit going. So overall, I still think this is good.

Speaker 1 I still think we're on a fucking great path. I think a lot of the time it gets to just Lamar being injured.
But that fucking,

Speaker 1 there's a little malaise with

Speaker 1 the team sometimes that I thought we could knock off. And we still, listen,

Speaker 1 if we're going to do, if we're going to make a deep run, I think we will knock it off. I think, you know, we got to get one of these other games.
We're not just playing.

Speaker 1 I mean, we're playing the Bengals and the Steelers, but we also have to play the Patriots. And

Speaker 1 who's the other fucking team on our schedule?

Speaker 2 You got the Packers. The Packers.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, we have to, at least we get to measure ourselves with, like,

Speaker 1 it fought, by the way, it fucking kills me that the Patriots are good. I mean, it's such, I know you guys are feeling it because fucking

Speaker 1 I mean, it's fucking insane. It's fucking crazy.

Speaker 1 All we have to fucking go off of is the Bill Belichick doing his bad grandpa shit. But that's the only nice part is how much his life is falling apart.
But, and Tom Brady, I guess, to some level.

Speaker 1 But the fact that these cocksuckers get a good quarter, it's like, I don't want to root against the well-being of any man, but

Speaker 1 it would be nice if something psychological happened to the Patriot. You know what I mean? Like something, like if he had like a, if,

Speaker 1 you know, what's his face?

Speaker 1 I'm blanking on Drake May fucking quarterback. Yeah, if just, if he had some kind of psychological crisis, I don't want to, I don't want to root for injuries.
No.

Speaker 1 But if he had some kind of mental breakdown, some kind of

Speaker 1 late-onset schizophrenia, and he has like multiple personalities, and one of them is a bad quarterback. That would be good, at least.

Speaker 1 If Drake May develops schizophrenia and he's only good half the time, and you don't know which personality is playing, they deserve that at least. They don't deserve a good quarterback immediately.

Speaker 1 Anyway, sorry, I'm on. No, this is a good idea.

Speaker 1 I literally have to make a, I have to make, I have to like make a flight, and I didn't sleep, and I just did a bunch of podcasts, so I'm like hopped up on fucking espresso.

Speaker 1 But none of them are asking you about the Ravens. You're right.
No one's asking me. I have a lot of thoughts, and I want to get them out.
That's good.

Speaker 1 And so I think this is still good. We have to fuck the Bengals up.
Yes. We have to fuck the Steelers up.
The problem with the Steelers games is that no matter who's good,

Speaker 1 it kind of always feels like we split. Even when we're a juggernaut and they're fucking, you know, they could go three and whatever the fuck.

Speaker 1 Or the flip side. It's always Steelers games are always kind of weirdly rivalry games with this, with this, you know, the way we've played them.

Speaker 1 I still think it's lining up really nicely for us to slay some of the playoff demons. Because if we just end up with 10,

Speaker 1 you know, if we end up with 10 wins, that's insane. Like that's a huge, like if you take, if you throw away the records from the first couple weeks and we end up with 10 wins, that's fucking huge.

Speaker 1 But, and to do that, we'll have to get at least a Packers or a Patriots win.

Speaker 1 So I think if we can come out of this, even as a wild card, low a seed, I think it'll be like, well, we've never been the underdogs, right? And every time we've won, we've always been the fucking dog.

Speaker 1 Like, no one thought we were going to, I mean, that, the first Super Bowl, no one thought we were going to win.

Speaker 1 The second Super Bowl, it's like everyone was sucking Peyton Manning and the fucking Broncos off until my boy Joey Flax fucking got their asses, caught them sleeping on deep coverage, you fucking idiots.

Speaker 1 And so I think like

Speaker 1 that's, we're kind of.

Speaker 1 Last time I was about numerology, right? Yeah. Because Lamar was the right age, the right, every quarterback was 28.
This time, it's, I was wrong.

Speaker 1 We're not a a numerology team we're a vibes based organization right we're we have a smash mouth defense kyle hamilton is the fucking best defensive player in the league he's so fucking good that it's it was what we were we were trying to win with offense And that was not the Ravens way, right?

Speaker 1 Now we have a fucking

Speaker 1 awesome defense. Kyle Hamilton is our fucking star.
And Lamar, the pressure's a little off him. He'll heal.
Hopefully he heals.

Speaker 1 And if we lead with our defense, we still get these fucking, we still get great punting. Best punt.
I mean, those truly

Speaker 1 beautiful punting. Beautiful coffin corner.
I mean, that did get my dickheart. As much as I would have liked a big play from Zay or something, that coffin corner was gorgeous.

Speaker 1 We get a couple of those fucking things going, and now we sneak in.

Speaker 1 We're not favored in a single one of the playoff games. That's how the Ravens win Super Bowls.
They don't win off buys. They don't win off MVP seasons.

Speaker 1 And so I'm kind of hoping we can kind of get it all together.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I don't hate that theory at all. We've been saying for the last few weeks.
I feel like the last three or four. Hey, what's up, buddy?

Speaker 1 Sorry, I'm at YMH Studio. The irony is, I'm at a place that has like eight podcast studios, and I'm just doing this in a fucking supply closet on my laptop.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we've been. I'm sorry, go ahead.

Speaker 2 We've been saying that about the Ravens for like the last four weeks.

Speaker 2 These should count towards Lamar's postseason stats. Thank you.

Speaker 2 Because all of these are, they are playoff games for Lamar.

Speaker 1 And even the game is. And that's why he's he's playing not great.
That's why he's not playing great. Yeah, okay, fuck you.
Except my dick. Enjoy this flash in the pan fucking game season.

Speaker 1 You said thank you for being the Steelers yesterday. Yeah, but I still could tell you to go fuck yourself.
Okay, that's fair. But

Speaker 1 I can still call you a schedule fraud.

Speaker 1 I like where your head's at, though.

Speaker 2 Like, this is the Ravens' way. Get in as a wild card.
Sneak up on people. No expenses.
The only problem with that is I feel like the Bills are kind of in that same lane right now. Yeah.
Fuck them.

Speaker 2 It's like you guys and the Chiefs.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you and Bills.

Speaker 2 Pat Mahomes is really the underdog of these playoffs.

Speaker 1 They'll never be the other. No, the Chiefs will never be a fuck.

Speaker 1 What the fuck are you idiots talking about? The Chiefs are underdogs. Fuck them.
They don't deserve this. You know what? Good.

Speaker 1 We can't even be fucking underdogs. You want to talk about nobody believes in us shit? They won't even let us be the fucking underdogs.
Fuck you.

Speaker 1 Biggest fucking football podcast in the world says we're the third underdogs. Fuck both of you, cocksuckers.
I'll show you. By the way, this is,

Speaker 1 I could tell that, like, you, because, you know, you're in, you're in big time circles now. You're going to cons,

Speaker 1 you're on red carpets. You're just

Speaker 1 gussy begonia in theaters. Everyone's going to get bigger.

Speaker 1 I'm sure Begonia, I'm sure the art house film I was in is going to get a big bump from PMT.

Speaker 1 Go ahead. New York Times is like, he's our beacon of hope in toxic male culture.
You're the hottest thing in the world. But no one asks you about about the Ravens when you go to all these places.

Speaker 1 And we'll still ask you about the Ravens. Thank you.
No one asks you about the Ravens and if they do, they think I'm actually a racist who loves Joe Flacco more than my children.

Speaker 1 Like, that's been the biggest curse of the Ronnie characters. People don't understand I'm making fun of them.
So thank you for letting me get my actual opinions out there.

Speaker 2 There's something about Flacco. Yeah, yeah, no,

Speaker 1 there still is something about Flacco. I mean, you know that you're watching him this season.

Speaker 2 You're thanking God that it looks like it's going to be Joe Burrow and not Joe Flacco coming into Baltimore on Thursday. On Thanksgiving, do you understand?

Speaker 2 Joe Flacco would have ruined your Thanksgiving.

Speaker 1 Either way, just to play against him would have ruined my. It's like the Klitschko brothers would have never fought each other.
I would have had to play Joe Flacco on Thanksgiving.

Speaker 1 That would have fucking hurt my heart. Every time he got touched, I would have been fucking sad.

Speaker 2 What do you do on, what do the Greeks do for Thanksgiving? What are some traditions that we can educate people about?

Speaker 1 Well, my family's not a big turkey family, so we did, we just do the, you want to talk about Greek right down the middle, lamb, brother.

Speaker 1 We fucking we roast a leg of lamb we get greek lemon potatoes going zadziki we still have we'll have some honky shit too we'll fucking we'll get some mac and cheese going we'll get some mashed potatoes i'm gonna be making uncle stabby's down home mash for that's what i'm bringing to the potluck as well as the lamb so you know we like to get it we just basically replace turkey with lamb and that's kind of what we do that's i mean turkey's dog shit no disagree disagree you guys know how to cook you guys know how to cook turkey you hate we know how to First of all,

Speaker 1 there shouldn't have to be 12 fucking steps to make something delicious. Oh, you got to baste it.
It's got to be this fucking temperature. You got to dry brine it.
You got to deep fry it.

Speaker 1 How about I just put a fucking delicious cut of meat in the oven and fucking three hours later it's done?

Speaker 1 My house, we do turkey and steak and the steak's always gone right away. 100%.

Speaker 1 For Christmas, I do a steak. I do a steak, a rib roast.

Speaker 1 I mean, Thanksgiving is left over from the time where people were eating fucking gruel for every meal.

Speaker 1 It was like you worked worked in the fucking factories and you were eating fucking like, you know, oatmeal paste and shit. That's why turkey was fucking good.
It's because it was started back then.

Speaker 1 Now we have everything at our fingertips. I'm not fucking settling for peasant, for the peasant bird.
Thank you very much.

Speaker 2 How much does this have to do with the fact that it's called turkey and you as a Greek have to have to absolutely despise if it was called like Paris?

Speaker 1 It doesn't help. I do remember as a child thinking like, that's why my dad didn't like eating it.
Yeah. We were, we really were indoctrinated from a very young age to hate the Turks, which

Speaker 1 we have gotten out of now.

Speaker 1 Shout out to

Speaker 1 my brothers in the Levant.

Speaker 2 Listen, if you deep-fried turkey, it's the best meat that you can have.

Speaker 1 Yeah, if you deep-fried cheese, it's pretty good, probably.

Speaker 1 I'm still not eating it. Deep-frying anything is great.
That's not a good selling point for turkey.

Speaker 1 Exactly. All right, so serious question, though, because I know you got to run in a second, but like you are the busiest man in the the world.

Speaker 1 Do you feel like you have you been accepted by Hollywood elites? Are you in a pedophile ring now? What's going on? Yeah,

Speaker 1 I keep refusing invitations.

Speaker 1 They say JP Morgan Chase bought Epstein's Isle and they're rebranding it.

Speaker 1 They're going to make it a whole Moroccan theme now. They got a whole new chef, executive chef.
It's like when they fucking take over a casino, they do it with a different style.

Speaker 1 No, I have, yeah, I've been, I'm not there yet. I have not been offered,

Speaker 1 I've not been offered accept, I've not been accepted into the deep pedophile rings, and I will reject those offers. Thank you.
Thank you very much. I mean,

Speaker 1 everyone says that. Literally, everyone says that.
I'm not, listen, if it was a big-titted fucking, if it was like a caramel-colored, big-titted,

Speaker 1 they got, hey, I'm going, brother.

Speaker 1 I'm all over those logs. If it's a MILF ring,

Speaker 1 if they need to change it to a MILF Island,

Speaker 1 if they change it to MILF Island, you control F for Halkius on Epstein's logs, your fucking shit's lighting up yellow, dude. I need a plus one.
Your shit's going to look like a banana now and later.

Speaker 1 I need a plus one to MILF Island. That would be so funny.

Speaker 1 Why can't there be Milf Island? Why can't there be just some regular fucking Hollywood dudes like, yeah, we got caught up in MILF Island? It was just a bunch of women in their 40s with huge cans.

Speaker 1 Huge tits that know how to suck dick like a fucking animal. Come on, dude.

Speaker 1 They've got years of experience. Yeah, I'm on MILF Island.
Israel can have videos of me getting sucked off by two MILFs. They're not going to be able to use that as blackmail, believe me.

Speaker 1 That's going to be my. I'm going to put that out there.

Speaker 2 That's Mecron's jet, MILF Island.

Speaker 1 Old teachers.

Speaker 2 Get some old teachers on there sucking you off. Yeah.

Speaker 2 This lady taught me algebra in seventh grade.

Speaker 2 Now she lives on an island with me and it sucks me off when I want it.

Speaker 1 Sounds good. Have you been ready for MILF Island?

Speaker 1 have there been any uh humiliation rituals that you've been put through yeah the hollywood has not put me in a dress yet not yet but you know i i would i'm considered i would probably do that if i'm being honest i don't have a problem with that is it when you're on the red carpet though like at some of these events are you are you conscious sometimes of being like what the fuck am i doing here these people yeah dude gorgeous dude so i'm in vent i'm at the venice film festival on the red carpet right and i'm in a car with hilariously it's me and alicia silverstone and i'm in a tuxedo The guy that they take, you know, that fucking somebody opens the door and they like escort Alicia Silverstone.

Speaker 1 And I'm supposed to go next on the red carpet. They just skip me because they thought I was a bodyguard.
They didn't even consider that I could be on the red carpet.

Speaker 1 I had to be like, hey, hey, I'm in the movie.

Speaker 1 All the Italians were like, and they were like mad. Dude, the pop.
I've never seen paparazzi more pissed off as like me blocking Emma Stone from them getting a shot of her. They're like, move.

Speaker 1 I'm trying to fucking get the famous people, you fucking gargoyle. Oh, I do want to watch Bugonia.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 You kind of threw some shade at us and our audience thinking we wouldn't appreciate the nuance and

Speaker 1 I know you're fucking absolute and artists.

Speaker 2 I would love Bugonia looks like it's a great movie, so I can't wait to watch it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Check it out. It is very good.
It's really good. Jesse Plemons, Emma Stone, Aiden Delbas.
I mean, some of the best acting, and I was just happy to be there.

Speaker 1 And Jorgos Lantim was one of the best directors. All right, so I know you got to run to a flight.
So I got one last question for you.

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Speaker 1 Since we're going to air this the day before Thanksgiving, give us your thoughts on what's the final score of the Ravens Bengals game, and are the Ravens, they're going to the playoffs.

Speaker 1 Yeah, are they of course? They're winning the Super Bowl. Oh, they're winning the Super Bowl.
They're winning the Super Bowl. It's fated to be.
We're going as the fucking wild card.

Speaker 1 We're going to fucking be underdogs in every round, and

Speaker 1 we're going to fucking get revenge on everyone.

Speaker 1 this will be this is how it's done fuck the colts uh you know that we will finally avenge them for taking the team away from us uh we should have won that one year with steve mcnair but they fucked our asses we get it back um you know Talking to Milf Island, we're going to fucking take over

Speaker 1 their new owner, you know, their new owner.

Speaker 1 We will avenge the Ursae bloodline for taking our fucking team away. We're fucking beating you.
We're beating whoever the fuck comes in front of us.

Speaker 1 Hopefully, we get to play the Bills or the Chiefs to be whoever, to be crowned the true underdog of these playoffs. We're going to, this is how it was meant to be.

Speaker 1 Lamar's going to wake up right at the right time. He's going to get healthy right at the right times.
And our defense is going to be awesome. Special team is going to be awesome.

Speaker 2 And Stavi, there is a path that I could see through the playoffs that is wild card against the Colts,

Speaker 2 divisional round against the Broncos, at the Broncos, and then

Speaker 2 the AFC Championship game at the New England Patriots. Revenge tour.

Speaker 1 Revenge tour.

Speaker 1 Run 2012 back.

Speaker 1 I'm rooting for that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Also, the Colts owner is she's a queen. We love her.

Speaker 1 I know you guys have to say that because they

Speaker 1 have to say that because they gave you the fucking, that shitty, stupid fucking banner or whatever.

Speaker 1 If you're an owner,

Speaker 1 I would play on the team if I'm not. No, she is cool.
It actually pisses me off that it's the first Ursae I respect. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because they did take the team, and then it was very easy to make fun of the guy who who died. May he rest in peace.
Hopefully, he's taking Xanax in heaven right now.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 I do respect her because she's in the mix. She's trying to learn about football.
And I like that she made some win-now moves. That's what more owners need to do.
Fuck it. Believe in your team.

Speaker 1 Don't try and penny pinch like shitty fucking owners. Actually, try and make your team better.

Speaker 1 But yeah,

Speaker 1 I do have to come back. I have general football theories.
I literally have to run her. I'm going to go to the bathroom.

Speaker 1 We'd love to

Speaker 1 buy my calendar, the 2026 calendar. There you go.
You know, I'll send you a link. Great stuff.
All right.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we'll talk more.

Speaker 1 Hopefully, when the Ravens are going into the playoffs, maybe we can fucking catch up, boys. Perfect.

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Speaker 2 And now, here's A-Rod.

Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on a very, very, very, very special guest. It is Alex Rodriguez.
A-Rod, he's here. He has a new documentary out, and we also want to talk Timberwolves, baseball, everything.

Speaker 1 But let's start with the documentary, Alex vs. A-Rod.
I watched it. It was awesome.
It's three parts on HBO. Go watch it now.

Speaker 1 It was really, really great because it felt like it was maybe, and you could tell me if I'm wrong, the first time that you told everything. You let everything out there.

Speaker 1 What made you decide that this was the time to do that? Because it was fascinating to watch. Yeah, I'm Dan.

Speaker 4 Look, I've known you a while, and uh, thanks for having me on your show. Obviously, I'm a huge fan of your show, you guys are killing it.
And

Speaker 4 you guys kind of wrote the book on just being authentic, right? And I think I've been overwhelmed with how positive, honestly, the response was.

Speaker 4 I got a little PTSD that everything I do, I think you're going to get slammed, and this has been the exact opposite.

Speaker 4 But I thought it was important to do this now because my daughters are now you know 21 and 17 i wanted them to make sure they were okay with it and not only were they okay with it they were excited about it and my young daughter ella said to me um

Speaker 4 who you've met she said alex uh i mean dad if you're going to do this we're going to do this we're going to be raw we're going to be real And we don't want to see any more apology tours.

Speaker 4 This is our story, and that's it.

Speaker 4 And I thought reflecting back on it, as I think about, you know, the next generation of young athletes, young women, young men, really anyone in between, the ability to talk about mental health is a real important topic.

Speaker 4 And I hopefully can inspire and save some people's, you know, future.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 It is refreshing to hear you speak honestly about some things that you've kept very close to yourself for decades in some cases.

Speaker 2 It must have also been pretty nerve-wracking because they are things that you've guarded. And for the first time, you're going to talk about them openly, honestly.

Speaker 2 And you were probably pretty nervous going into that, might have felt uncomfortable. Was there one thing that you were most fearful of opening up about?

Speaker 2 And then what has the response been after you opened up about that thing?

Speaker 4 I think, yeah, it's a great question. I think everything, really, I mean,

Speaker 4 when you let it eat like that, I mean, those, I mean, some of my teammates called me and go, dude, what the hell? I didn't know about your father. I'm like, nobody knows about my father, right?

Speaker 4 That's how close, and I'm very close with my teammates.

Speaker 4 Cece went to the premiere and a couple of other of my teammates were like, oh my God, I had no idea about that game in Minnesota where, you know, we went to those only four games of my career.

Speaker 4 I think just walking everyone, I mean, the biggest, the toughest thing was like reliving those moments, open up those wounds, which, you know, were very painful, the stuff that I

Speaker 4 put on myself, right? And

Speaker 4 you get some PTSD because like when you do things, like you get hammered, but this has been exact opposite, like putting everything out there the response that i've gotten from universities about mental health from just people that are in the workfield people that have been thinking about doing therapy and they just honestly appreciated for the first time seeing the very raw best version of myself, I guess.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 The father part was something I didn't really know.

Speaker 1 And for people who go watch it, but your dad one day just kind of walked out of your life when you were a kid.

Speaker 1 And I thought even like the most most striking part to me of the documentary is like having these people who are very close to you speak honestly.

Speaker 1 Like your ex-wife even saying like that was something he was always chasing.

Speaker 1 I don't know how many guys would have their ex-wife talk on a documentary about their life like she did and she did a great job. But like,

Speaker 1 you know, was it something that you consciously, when was the moment that you realized like, yeah, I probably was overcompensating for the fact that my dad, who I was very close with, just got up and left in the middle of, you know, my childhood.

Speaker 1 And then I became the man and I became the guy that everyone put their pressure on.

Speaker 1 Did you have a moment, even maybe it happened during this, where you're like, oh yeah, this is a lot of who I am is because of what happened there?

Speaker 4 Yeah, no,

Speaker 4 I think the reason why,

Speaker 4 you know,

Speaker 4 I started doing this work over 10 years of therapy and I'm still in it in therapy. You know, I was saying like in good days, I'm kind of like starting to round second.

Speaker 4 Most of the of them are still at first base. You know, we're all in this great journey.

Speaker 4 But I had no idea then that I was, I would act and behave the way I would because I was so locked in, almost like

Speaker 4 Rambo, just like trained to kill, trained to play baseball.

Speaker 4 And I knew that was my responsibility to take care of my family because I wanted to be all the things that my father couldn't do for us, at least financially.

Speaker 4 But what I was realizing that as great as I got to be as a baseball player, I was becoming more detached from reality, from self-awareness. My ego was getting inflated.

Speaker 4 But I think more than the ego, it was just the lack of self-awareness. And when I talked about Dr.
David, for those some of the listeners who haven't seen the documentary, Dr.

Speaker 4 David, who I think saved my life,

Speaker 4 he helped me rewire the brain to really understand other people and understand my place in life.

Speaker 4 And that was a huge disconnect. I had at 21 when I was second in MVP.
I looked like I was 28 years old as a man and a maturity and I was like seasoned veteran at 21.

Speaker 4 But as a man I was I still had the development of a 12 year old

Speaker 1 yeah yeah I mean I've always said because I do know you pretty well and I think that people don't realize that being

Speaker 1 the biggest deal when you're 16 you know you were you were at 16 years old everyone's like look at this kid from Miami who's incredible at baseball being 1-1 having all of that at a very young age It probably stunts a lot of your growth because you don't have the regular, hey, I'm a drunk college kid hanging out, making mistakes.

Speaker 1 You have the lights bright on you from very, very young age, and you just

Speaker 1 can't cope with it the way that some of us are able to when we're later on in life.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I mean, look, that's a great point. And what I will tell you is this, is that

Speaker 4 and I say this for my daughters as well, is I don't wish anyone, And it's kind of intuitive, right? I don't wish anyone that type of success and a type of fortune that early in in your life

Speaker 4 because it does the opposite of creating great character and grit, right?

Speaker 4 I remember as an 18-year-old when I first got called up to the big leagues, just a few months removed from my high school prom, you know, a few months before that,

Speaker 4 my teammates like Griffey and Buner and Randy Johns, these guys were all going to a bar in Boston. And they're like, Alex, you want to come?

Speaker 4 And like, I'm like, I'm three years away from being able to enter a bar. Right.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 4 And that was the first time that I was like, so far, like, my life was going in a different direction professionally, but obviously, what suffered the most was my personal development.

Speaker 4 Maybe I needed to be with you, Kat, drinking a couple kegs and just having a little bit of fun.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, but it's a real thing. When you're 18, you're not supposed to have that type of responsibility and pressure on you, and you don't have the normal, hey, I'm fucking around.

Speaker 1 I can make my mistakes. All your mistakes are very public, and it's a lot difficult.

Speaker 1 I think we're getting better also as a society of seeing athletes not just as these perfect people, but flawed humans.

Speaker 1 Like you're, that was the big takeaway from this documentary is like you're, you're a flawed guy, but we're all flawed in some way.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I love, I love that Mike Francesa, who I thought was great. I thought Kay was great.

Speaker 4 I mean, just to have my, my ex-wife, who's still my best friend and co-parent to our two daughters, Natasha and Ella. Like, I'm so proud of her to be able to go there and be so brave.

Speaker 4 Like, I've gotten a lot of response from people who are divorced, who don't have an optimal relationship. So that was a thing.
The way my daughters have grown up, because of my help with Dr.

Speaker 4 David and our relationship, and then what I've been able to do after

Speaker 4 my baseball career and started with you with our podcast, which is a lot of fun. So all those things, this is stuff that I've been working now for north of 12 years.

Speaker 4 So I think it would have been super disingenuous. And probably old A-Rod would have done the documentary in the middle of my thing and been like, no, I didn't want anybody to know about it.

Speaker 4 That was the hardest thing I had to do. And then reflecting so many years later, I think letting people know that it's okay to get help.

Speaker 4 As a matter of fact, I was so broken, I don't know how people can do it without some help. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 No, it's a great point.

Speaker 2 And the situation that you were put in is just, it's an unwinnable thing for the brain.

Speaker 2 I mean, you obviously had a great career and you lived up to every expectation that was put on you at such a young age.

Speaker 2 But from a young age, you're told, okay, you're the next big thing. You're going to be one of the greatest baseball players.

Speaker 2 Then you go into a career where you actually fulfill on what people have already set set in front of you. You're feeling great about yourself.

Speaker 2 You make a choice and you sign a big contract with a different team. Now all of a sudden, the entire world is like, we hate this guy after it's been nothing but love for the start of your career.

Speaker 2 Did that surprise you?

Speaker 2 Did that shock you when you signed with Texas about how much hate you would get compared to, you know, like in modern day baseball, you're a free agent, signed a big contract and everybody's like, that's awesome.

Speaker 2 Good for that guy. But the hate that you got at the time, it feels like it would have messed up anybody that had been told you're the greatest.
You're going to be a great baseball player.

Speaker 2 Everybody loves you.

Speaker 4 You're very intuitive because if you fast forward to that, was 2021, I mean, 2001.

Speaker 4 And if you fast forward 25 years, you know, when Juan Soto almost gets a billion dollars and Shohei Otani, they're celebrated like icons as they should because they earned it.

Speaker 4 No one gave them anything.

Speaker 4 So if you looked at me if we look now and i go let's play a trivia question and you look back in my career and say what will you get destroyed for signing a big contract where you earn it and at that point i hadn't even jaywalked yet uh you know just an innocent kid that came up in seattle that or would you get destroyed for this documentary i would have gone a hundred to zero this documentary i would be destroyed why would anyone destroy and it's been exact opposite right uh-huh right it's just live and learn right yeah yeah it's weird i think i think the the one the only misstep i think you made when you signed that contract was you were like yeah i signed it because i wanted to play for a winner yeah when you went to the rangers and that was

Speaker 4 like yes you know what my mom collected food stamps at the age of 12 i'm chasing the money because it's a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity yeah

Speaker 1 yeah yeah was it difficult talking about the steroids part of it because i know obviously that's that follows you and um it it it it's it's obviously you have to talk about it you have to get into it but it also does sometimes take away from the fact that you were a really good player without steroids.

Speaker 1 So it's not like something like, hey, you were a guy who was a flash in a pan and then took steroids and then hit 50 bombs.

Speaker 1 Was it hard, though, to bring up all that stuff and talk about all of it again?

Speaker 4 Yeah, it was very difficult for sure, Kat. But, you know,

Speaker 4 when I think two of the most important years of my career, and it's just like a win for myself, I think, is when I had like the best year of my career was probably when I was 20 years old, where I won the batting title and I hit 358 and hitting, you know, behind Griffey and with Edgar Martinez, I had such a great bunch of mentors there and Lu Pinela, of course.

Speaker 4 And then at the end of my career at 40, I had another amazing year and that was like after the suspension.

Speaker 4 So if you bookend ZOS, for me, that told me a very important story that I don't need any of that stuff, which was very important.

Speaker 4 Was it difficult? I've had a lot of friends ask me, like, why would you get into this? Why not just brush it under the rug? I said, no, that's exactly the point. We got to highlight my flaws.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Because there's other kids. Hopefully, there's a new young kid who's 15 who wants to be like the next A-Rod or the next Jeter or the next Griffey.
And they can look at my mistakes and learn from them.

Speaker 4 And then they can be the best version and go to the Hall of Fame and use something that I didn't need, obviously. And it was just a dumb ass mistake that I made.

Speaker 4 And, you know, but after the therapy, fellas, one thing I'm proud of is I'm proud of of everything. The highs, the lows, the good, the bad, and the ugly.

Speaker 4 Because that's just a person that just made a mistake. This is not a baseball documentary.
If you won a baseball documentary, you're going to be very disappointed.

Speaker 4 I think this is just a journey and a mental health story about someone who's just trying to figure it out as a regular person.

Speaker 1 Do you think the Hall of Fame will ever come calling? I mean, we're pro. Like, you got to tell the story of baseball, and you're part of the story of baseball.

Speaker 1 You're a very big part of the story of baseball. So is Barry Bonds.
So is Mark McGuire. Like, a lot of these guys.

Speaker 2 So is Bud Sealy?

Speaker 1 It seems, yeah, it seems foolish to us. So do you, in your brain, like if I, if we hit you with True Serum, you're like, yeah, someday I'll probably get in.

Speaker 4 I can't go that far. I can say that I'm hopeful.
Yeah. But if I don't get in, I mean, I can just look in the mirror and see that's the person's fault.
It's my fault, right?

Speaker 4 But I'm hopeful and it'll be a great day. But also.
The difference is I'm not tied to it. And I think my first indication is

Speaker 4 A-Rod with 696 home runs. When I get those three phone calls from those three other teams, I would have gone to Taiwan.
I would have gone to Japan.

Speaker 4 I would have gone to Tokyo, you name it, China, to get those four home runs.

Speaker 4 And the fact that I was able to walk away and I didn't need those four home runs to validate me, that was the first step of growth that I was really proud of.

Speaker 1 I feel the same way about the Hall of Fame. Do you think you could hit four home runs if I gave you a full season right now?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I do.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I do too.

Speaker 1 Absolutely.

Speaker 2 We should, because it's, is it Johan Santana that retired? Like, Like, I think he had 1,980-something strikeouts. One team should sign him.
Another team in the division should sign you.

Speaker 2 And then every time you guys play each other, you face off whoever reaches a milestone first.

Speaker 2 Also, think about how much money those home run balls will be worth to the lucky people in the stands, to the people taking

Speaker 2 their kids, their families to the game, have a chance to catch a $3 million home run for MAROD.

Speaker 4 That's a great point. I mean, I would just need a couple ambulances because after the games, I'm going to have to get going to take care of my body.

Speaker 4 But the other thing is, like, today, I mean, you can hit 200 and strike out 200 times, and you get a five-year contract. So, maybe I do have a chance.

Speaker 1 I mean, the funniest thing you could do is come back, hit four home runs, and then get busted for steroids again. That would be hilarious.

Speaker 4 A fourth documentary. I love it.

Speaker 1 There you go. Then it keeps feeding itself.
It would be so fucking funny. They're like, Yeah, he wanted the four home runs.
What the fuck are you going to do? Yeah, it's 45 years old.

Speaker 2 You start your own podcast again, and then you do like updates on being, you know, they asked me to pee into a cup, and they're like, I didn't do the steroid. You deny it on your podcast.

Speaker 2 And then, like, a week later, you admit, yeah, I think this is

Speaker 1 a good business plan.

Speaker 2 Back to

Speaker 2 the moment that you decided that you were going to take PEDs for the first time, though, because I don't think it doesn't make you a bad person. You realize that now, right? Like,

Speaker 2 you made a choice. You're not happy with the choice that you made at the time, but you made that choice for a reason.
So, what was the reason that you decided, okay, yeah, let's give this a shot?

Speaker 4 Well, I think I got into it in the documentary and I talked about,

Speaker 4 you know,

Speaker 4 not being able to, it was hard to get out of bed. You know, I've had two hip surgeries, two knee surgeries.
Felix Hernandez hit me with a changeup and broke my thing.

Speaker 4 And honestly, I just couldn't get out of bed. And...

Speaker 4 you know, I don't want to kind of spoil what I said in the documentary, so it's a little shameless plug here. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Ultimately, I knew that once I crossed that line with HGH, it was a wrap, and I knew I was on the wrong side of history. So I think just the want to get out there and perform.

Speaker 4 The sad thing is, in that time,

Speaker 4 I think I averaged over 40 home runs in my career. In that time, I think I had five or six home runs.
So it was just a shit show, no matter how you look at it.

Speaker 2 Yeah, so I've watched the first, I think it was the first episode and half of the second episode. It's really good.
I'm going to finish it. I recommend everybody go out there and they take a look.

Speaker 2 You're talking about being able to come clean clean about all these moments in your past so far and maybe you addressed it in the second half i don't know um but there's a big thing that maybe i'll give you the opportunity to come clean about right here the centaur painting inside your apartment that you denied to us last time we asked you about it you denied um is it is it a minotaur is that what is that we're off about or is it technicality maybe it's not a painting is it a sketch is it charcoal

Speaker 4 it's such a great story that i don't want to spoil it and and i i would have it, but I'm just not that creative, to be quite honest. I just have like, you know, silly things at my house.

Speaker 4 Like, you know.

Speaker 1 Those are silly, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Drinks at the bar. Yeah, it's very silly.

Speaker 4 I wish I was that clever. Not a bad idea, but.

Speaker 1 So you had it or you didn't have it?

Speaker 4 Never had it. Never thought of it, but I like the idea.

Speaker 1 What about the kissing the window? The mirror thing. That I did.

Speaker 4 I know.

Speaker 4 That was a mirror. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And that was,

Speaker 4 I've been there like seven hours, and the guy goes, I have

Speaker 4 more shot. One great idea.
Yeah, one more shot. He's like, why don't you get up against the mirror? It's very artistic.

Speaker 4 And then obviously there was Central Park where I laid out. I got some rays.

Speaker 4 I think that's a really cool thing. I mean,

Speaker 2 you made it the people. What if we sent you an A-Rod Minotaur or an A-Rod Centaur painting? Like, if we had it done, would you sign it? Would you sign it for us? And we'd be sorry.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 I'd sign it.

Speaker 4 I think I will go to the studio and do it and we'll celebrate it and memorialize it. Okay.

Speaker 1 Done. Yeah, done.
Done. Yeah.
No, we would hang it on the wall.

Speaker 1 I have Chelsea Artists chilling with Chells. We'll make it for us.
We'll have you sign it, and we'll put it up in the studio. I love that.

Speaker 1 All right, I want to talk a little baseball and then Timberwolves. Baseball is in an awesome place right now.
The pitch clock has been incredible.

Speaker 1 That was one of the best World Series we've ever seen.

Speaker 1 Are we going to get a lockout? I really don't want one. I feel like we're in trouble.
Tell me that we're not in trouble.

Speaker 4 I'm hopeful that we have so much momentum. And I agree with you, you, Kat.
This is the best baseball it's been in 10 years.

Speaker 4 I think Rob Manford has done an incredible job with the time clock, with the basis. I mean, the pace of the game.

Speaker 4 I've watched almost every pitch, almost every pitch of every Will Series starting in 1985 when the Royals beat St. Louis and Brett Saberhagen through that complete game and George Brett hugs him.

Speaker 4 Of course, your cubbies,

Speaker 4 great year.

Speaker 4 I think having three iconic games in seven games with, you know, Yamamoto and all the superstars, I think there's so much momentum. And finally, we have so much tailwind.

Speaker 4 I think you have very smart people at the very top that understand that.

Speaker 1 And hopefully, they can come to a resolution quicker, faster rather than, you know, yeah, because it just feels like it's we're in a moment in time where it's like baseball feels, because baseball ebbs and flows.

Speaker 1 It's struggled at times because it becomes very regional. But that World Series, like, that is the momentum right there.
That was one of the best. I mean, it really was.

Speaker 1 It was just every single moment. I also, by the way, I didn't realize

Speaker 1 you said this in the documentary. You're such a baseball nut that you would come back after a game and watch your game back like once or twice.
That's insane.

Speaker 4 Well,

Speaker 4 the whole, I mean, after you see this documentary, you will realize that I am insane. Yeah, just watching that.

Speaker 4 I think Cynthia talked about it, my ex, in the documentary. Not only would I watch my bats, because back then you had to actually watch the whole game to watch four bats.

Speaker 4 You don't have like the iPad now that everything is so easy. So that was one.
And then I would have three games from the West Coast.

Speaker 4 You know, I have the Dodger game, the Giants game, and the Mariners game. So it had four TVs.
My wife wanted to kill me at the time.

Speaker 4 Yeah, that was what I would do.

Speaker 1 Yeah, true baseball nut. Yeah, so

Speaker 4 one more thing on the World Series, just to put a button on it,

Speaker 4 just to celebrate it and memorialize it. The fact that you had 51 million people watching when you include the three markets, US, 27.5 million.
You have Toronto, Canada, and then you have Japan.

Speaker 4 I mean, these are NFL football numbers in baseball, which proves that when you have a good product and a good pace and great strategy and seven games, baseball hopefully is here to stay.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it was incredible. And you have a unique perspective on this, given you're an owner of the Minnesota Timberwolves.
You were a baseball player for a long time.

Speaker 2 How do you see the negotiations playing out? Like,

Speaker 2 if it's Alex versus A-Rod and you're negotiating against yourself from those two perspectives, what do you see being the ultimate compromise for baseball if we want to make sure that we have a season going in the future?

Speaker 4 Oh, boy, that's a great question.

Speaker 4 You know,

Speaker 4 the Dodgers have become the powerhouse of powerhouses. I mean, they're one of two teams in sports that surpassed the $1 billion top-line revenue.
is the Dodgers and the Cowboys.

Speaker 4 And when you have a team like Tampa that makes somewhere somewhere like, let's say, a buck fifty,

Speaker 4 when we have the same question in five years, it's probably going to go to a billion five to 175.

Speaker 4 So the rich keep getting richer and it makes it really, really tough for these secondary and tertiary markets.

Speaker 4 So I think there has to be some type of conversation about how do we kind of bring everything a little bit closer to the middle. And I mean, look at Oklahoma City as an example, right?

Speaker 4 They're like one of the lower markets. They won a title and their favorites to win again.

Speaker 4 I I mean, they don't lose, and just a few months ago, they almost gave three players almost a billion dollars, right?

Speaker 4 That's that's a really healthy league. I think, could we pull some from the NFL?

Speaker 4 Could we pull some from the NBA, some the best versions of each, and see if we can compromise and make sure the players are happy and the owners can manage it?

Speaker 2 Yeah, I've actually really enjoyed watching you on the post-game coverage throughout the playoffs, all that. Does it does it personally affect you when David Ortiz says the Yankees lose?

Speaker 4 It hurts my soul.

Speaker 1 It hurts my soul.

Speaker 4 You know, Poppy's my buddy. A lot of people don't realize Poppy and I came up together at 17 with the Mariners.
And so we've been friends for over 30 years. He's just one of one.

Speaker 4 Jeter was outstanding this year. I thought it was his best year he's had with Fox.
And then Kevin Burkhardt is just the ultimate point guard. And we had a lot of fun covering this year.

Speaker 2 It seemed at times like he was spiking the football a little bit.

Speaker 2 Like him and Vladdy just going back and forth. What was going through your head when they just kept going back and forth and they just wouldn't stop saying it?

Speaker 4 Wake me up from this freaking nightmare of this camping happening.

Speaker 1 They loved it.

Speaker 4 When you win, when you win, you can spike the ball.

Speaker 4 And, you know, Blue Jays had an incredible, I still cannot believe they almost outplayed the Dodgers in every game, and the Dodgers show you why they're the world champs. They just find a way to win.

Speaker 4 Pretty impressive. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So owning the Timberwolves now, how is it?

Speaker 4 What's the hardest part about owning a team that you didn't see coming that you're like, oh shit, this is kind of more difficult difficult than i expected well we have two teams so there's never an off season uh when there's an offseason you're really dealing with drafts and the business side of things um when you're the other one's in the season then you have the other draft and and so that is a 365 kind of 24 7 business and then i think the hardest part emotionally is that much harder than a player there's nothing you can do like as a player you can always go try to grab in a bad and make up for yesterday like as an owner you got to just you know cheer louder change i mean as i you know just you're helpless yeah but it's so much fun it's been such a privilege and the nba is just an incredible league with you know great leadership with adam silver uh you have great owners all around the board i mean i sit in the boardroom and it's really like a pinch-me moment that you know someone that with my history can sit in that room and live out my dream.

Speaker 4 I'm incredibly grateful for that opportunity.

Speaker 1 I also feel like you've been working on your jump shot. Is that facts?

Speaker 4 Yeah, but my jump shot sucks.

Speaker 1 No, I mean, that's not true. I see you play and I see the clips.

Speaker 1 I mean, it's one of those moments, like, oh, yeah, he was one of the best players of all time in baseball. He probably will be good at basketball, too.
And you are.

Speaker 4 It's called Instagram. Like, don't believe, like, I only post the really good things to

Speaker 4 tell people that I'm a good athlete, but I'm probably not a good shooter.

Speaker 2 Yeah, how involved are you in the small stuff around the team when it comes to the halftime performances, when it comes to all that stuff?

Speaker 4 i just think big picture i think you know my partner mark lorry who's an amazing guy and at some point you guys should come and host one of your shows for a couple of days in minnesota in our arena we'd love to have you yes

Speaker 4 and you know we have a great bunch of young guys anthony edwards and rando and you know we're really excited about our team and our future I just, our job is to really set the vision, go hire the best people in the world and let them and get out of their way.

Speaker 1 So we have a great team.

Speaker 4 They do a fantastic job and we're more like high level. Yeah,

Speaker 2 I would fall into the trap of just being like, let's get, we were talking about the corgi races the other day that the Lions have. I would be planning all that stuff out.
Bring Red Panda back.

Speaker 2 Let's have Red Panda week here. Yeah.
Yeah, I would make all those phone calls that nobody else wants to pick up. What about the, what's the spread like during the games?

Speaker 2 Like, if you're watching at the arena, what kind of food situation are we looking at? It's good.

Speaker 1 Pretty good. Pretty good.

Speaker 4 I will say this, it's a lot healthier in 2025 in sports in general. Like as a young kid, like, we would have all kind of fried food and fries and burgers.

Speaker 4 Today, like, there's brown rice, there's salmon, everything's grilled, there's not anything fried. Uh, you have shakes.

Speaker 4 I mean, these guys are just like you know, Ferraris, so we got to take care of them. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Um, all right, I got one last question for you, and this has been awesome. Uh, great having you on.

Speaker 1 When you come to Chicago next, we gotta, I'm gonna get the painting done, and then we're gonna, whenever you're in Chicago next, we'll do a whole putting it up and signing it. It'll be awesome.

Speaker 1 Uh, my last question.

Speaker 4 I would agree with that that as long as you come sit next to me on the floor when we play the Bulls. Done.

Speaker 1 Done. We'll set it up.
Yeah, we'll set it up. Absolutely.
I want to go to that game.

Speaker 1 I've only sat

Speaker 1 courtside like one time in my life. It's so insane.
Watching the athletes.

Speaker 4 We'll make it twice now.

Speaker 1 Yeah, watching NBA athletes like just the size and speed that close is, it blows your mind. It really does.

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Speaker 1 what was Jeter's reaction to the documentary? Because you guys obviously had a history.

Speaker 1 You had a friendship, then it was kind of strained, then you became teammates, and

Speaker 1 he was front row to all this stuff happening. What was his reaction to the documentary, and how's your guys' relationship?

Speaker 4 Our relationship is great. It's as good as it's been in, I would say, over 20 years.
And part of it is, Dan, is me growing up, right?

Speaker 4 Like, I I mean, when I look back now, I'm like, man, I must have been a very difficult guy to deal with. And, you know, Derek has great parents.
He's a great human being. He's got great character.

Speaker 4 And obviously, looking back, it's easy to see that he had the maturity at 21 of a 31-year-old. And at 31, I had the maturity of a nine-year-old.
So we were just not in the same wavelength.

Speaker 4 Where we always jived is we always loved and respect each other's game. We both played every day and we both have one commonality is we wanted to win and win badly.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Very cool.

Speaker 2 My last question is a hypothetical situation. Put yourself in the batter's box.
You're down by one, bottom of the ninth inning, two outs. You got a runner on second.
Who do you want up? Alex or A-Rod?

Speaker 1 Ooh.

Speaker 1 You got to go A-Rod.

Speaker 4 I would say A-Rod. You got to go A-Rod.

Speaker 2 I feel like Alex would handle it. A lot of nuts.

Speaker 1 A-Rod.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Alex would handle it.

Speaker 2 Like, if you did strike out, Alex would handle the disappointment in a more healthy way. But you want to win the game, right?

Speaker 2 You got to put A-Rod up there.

Speaker 4 Yeah, you got to go with the killer.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you want A-Rod in the box. You want Alex at the press conference after.

Speaker 4 By the way, that may be the most intelligent question. There you go.

Speaker 1 Intelligent question.

Speaker 4 Over the last couple of weeks. Thank you for that.
Well,

Speaker 2 I feel like we're interviewing Alex right now, right? Yeah.

Speaker 1 But A-Rod could come out.

Speaker 2 Like, you never know.

Speaker 1 You're funny.

Speaker 4 You say that every time now I get an Uber in cities and all that, the guys turning around and is like, is this A-Rod or Alex?

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 You should, yeah, you should maybe wear a pin where it's like the Fogo de Chow where you flip over the button if you're done with steak. It's like, I'm Alex today.
I'm A-Rod today. Yeah.

Speaker 4 My answer is like this: A-Rod, you get one star and no tip. Yeah, yeah, right.

Speaker 1 Alex, great guy. All right.
Well, Alex, thank you so much, man. We love having you on, and let's definitely set up.
We'd love to come sit core side. And you're the best.

Speaker 1 And everyone go watch the Alex versus A-Rod documentary on HBO. Can't recommend it enough.
And happy Thanksgiving.

Speaker 4 Same to you. And a big fan of you guys.
Keep it going. And happy Thanksgiving back to you.

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Speaker 1 for week 13 and thanksgiving and all the football and feast week that you can have. So let's start with 49ers at Cleveland Browns.
Browns are plus six. Over-under is 39.5.

Speaker 1 I like the Browns. Shadus.
Shadur. Shader.

Speaker 2 I mean, the Niners are coming off back-to-back wins for the first time since week three. Since then, they've just alternated every weekend.
They won two in a row, short week.

Speaker 2 You got to roll with Shadur. And Kevin Stefansky, he tried to do the thing where he's like, I don't want to name a starting quarterback.

Speaker 2 We all knew that it was going to be Shadur because you can't go away from the hot hand if you're the Browns.

Speaker 1 I have a question.

Speaker 1 Is Kevin Stafanski racist for not giving Shador Sanders a game ball and instead giving it to Miles Garrett?

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 That's a real thing that's being asked.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it is. Yeah, that's right.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Miles Garrett.

Speaker 2 What are you guys talking about in there?

Speaker 1 Give it to him. That's not why people are mad.
Oh, why are they mad?

Speaker 1 They're saying Kevin Stefanski just glanced over the fact that Shador was the first starter since 1999. to win them a game.
That's why people are mad. They didn't care about the game ball.

Speaker 1 Oh, they didn't care about the game ball. What do you mean he glazed over it?

Speaker 2 He was just like, oh, Shador

Speaker 1 had a game. That was it.
I mean, he did have a game.

Speaker 2 He wasn't a normal game. It wasn't like he lit that.

Speaker 1 He took the longest touchdown pass from a rookie quarterback this year.

Speaker 1 Really? That's true. The 66-yard bomb, Doddington Bones.

Speaker 1 That's the main discourse online.

Speaker 1 Got it. Yeah,

Speaker 1 you guys can speak up anytime you want.

Speaker 2 I mean, the last time this happened was

Speaker 2 30 years ago.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 maybe he should have made a slightly bigger deal. Maybe not the game ball.
Maybe like his game, his game whistle.

Speaker 1 Did he make a big deal when Dylan Gabriel won his first game? That would be the question.

Speaker 1 He didn't get Dylan Gabriel.

Speaker 1 What? He didn't win the first one. That's true.
That's a fact.

Speaker 1 Either way, this Shador discourse is very funny and ridiculous, and I can't get enough of it.

Speaker 1 It's perfect. He's the perfect take machine.

Speaker 2 Listen, Miles Garrett is playing as good as anybody else in the NFL right now.

Speaker 1 I kind of like the Browns, too.

Speaker 2 Short week for the 49ers. The Browns' defense is legit.

Speaker 1 I like them.

Speaker 2 I like Cleveland. What can I say? Yeah.

Speaker 1 I also have in my head the year that the Browns went there. Remember, sorry, the Niners when they looked like the best team in football and they went to the Browns.
The Browns won outright.

Speaker 1 The grapple.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there was that one.

Speaker 2 There was also the Jake Moody game from two years ago. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That might have been the one. I found a tweet.
Yeah, it might have been the same one. Okay.
All right. Give it to us.
First clip.

Speaker 1 Kevin Stefansky. Yep.

Speaker 1 You read it. Okay.
First clip is from Brown's win versus Miami. Gabriel's first win.
Stefanski doesn't give a game ball or even mention Gabriel at all.

Speaker 1 Second video is from yesterday's win versus Raiders. Shador's first start and win.
It's a very brief mention, but he does give props to Shador. So myth-busted.

Speaker 1 How are people this upset about a post-game speech?

Speaker 2 So I've been thinking about the whole Shador discourse because Shador got a lot of fans out of nowhere when he got drafted.

Speaker 2 He was a little bit polarizing in Colorado, for sure. I'll give you that.

Speaker 2 A little bit? No, he was. He was.
But I'm saying, like, there became, I had never seen this many Shador stands as I had since the point that he's been drafted. He's provocative.
He's provocative.

Speaker 2 I think that a lot of it's coming from foreign actors. Check the location on X for a lot of the people that are stirring up the Shador discourse.
Yeah. The ones that that are like, die hard.

Speaker 2 Josina Anderson.

Speaker 1 Is she real? I don't know. A lot of India, Bangladesh checking in on the Shadur takes? It might be.

Speaker 2 Myanmar. Yeah.

Speaker 2 That's just a thought that I had. Josina obviously has her reasons for supporting Shadur.
I think she's probably very close to Dion, who's provided her with some information in the past.

Speaker 2 She's trying to keep the sources happy, that whole thing.

Speaker 2 I don't understand

Speaker 2 why you would have a very strong opinion one way or the other about Shador

Speaker 2 given his play, but I'm glad that people do.

Speaker 1 For a first start, he looked, you know, okay, push the ball downfield here and there, which they weren't able to do with Dylan Gabriel. So yeah, I'm buying a little Shador stock.
I'm buying a little.

Speaker 2 So in a perfect world for the Browns, like imagine he goes out there against the Niners. He's got three touchdowns, 325 yards, 70% completion rate.

Speaker 2 Are the Browns already thinking about how much they could get for a trade for him? Or are the Browns actually going to see that performance and be like, let's roll with Shador next year?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, I think Shador might be the future. I mean,

Speaker 2 I would say that a rational coach and a rational organization would do that. The Browns, though, who knows what they're thinking? Yeah.

Speaker 1 The Browns, so we'll see how Brock Purdy looks after a shaky game on Monday Night Football against a really good defense in Cleveland.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think Cleveland, I'm high on the Niners, but I think Cleveland can stick around in this game in this number.

Speaker 2 The Browns have won five of seven against the Niners. Whoa.
That's got got to be up there towards the top of the Niner killers. Of any record against any team for the Browns, right? Yeah.

Speaker 2 Okay, next game.

Speaker 1 Titans, six and a half point underdogs, over under 42.5. What game, by the way, is going to be on main TV?

Speaker 1 Have we thought about that? It's not. You have.

Speaker 1 When you have the teams that are playing on Thanksgiving and Black Friday, we're left with... Texans, Colts?

Speaker 2 With...

Speaker 1 Yeah, I guess Texans, Colts would probably be the number one game, right?

Speaker 1 There's some yuck. There's some yucky games.
But you know what? Those are usually the Sundays that have the craziest shit happen. Texans, Colts is in the running.

Speaker 1 Cardinals, Bucks, nah. Rams, Panthers,

Speaker 1 Texas, Colts. Texan Colts is main TV.

Speaker 1 You know what it is? I'm looking at it right now. It's the fact that the entire AFC South is playing in that same exact window.
Yeah. They're playing each other.

Speaker 2 If three teams in the same division control their own destiny, does any team really control their own destiny? That's a good question.

Speaker 1 I don't know. I do think that we're running out of time on the Titans season.
They might be out of it on the AFC South. Right, the Titans, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 I know you weren't talking about the Titans.

Speaker 2 Titans, I'd say, yeah, you never know. Yeah.

Speaker 1 This game, can the Jaguars stay... They have to win this game.
This is a must-win. This is where playing bad teams become must-wins down the stretch.

Speaker 1 Trevor Lawrence,

Speaker 1 I don't know. I don't know.
I don't know. That's my take on Trevor Lawrence.
Let it rip. Let it rip.

Speaker 2 So the Jaguars did the thing last week where they, it's like a new strategy that you see more and more coaches do. The Cowboys did it.
The Dolphins did it against the Commanders.

Speaker 2 You go for it on fourth down

Speaker 2 when you're up by three because you're trying to pin the other team deep.

Speaker 2 So I tried to think of a way to articulate why that's the smartest thing to do because I found myself agreeing with with the coaches that do that, even though people are like, What the fuck are you doing?

Speaker 2 Why are you going for it on a fourth down? Kick a field goal, make them score a touchdown to beat you. It's because of the field position.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 It's entirely because, like, if you, even if you make the field goal, you're up six points, you still give the other team about give or take 30 yards worth of field position on the kickoff, which is worth a whole lot in those end-of-game scenarios.

Speaker 2 Yeah. So, like, yeah, if you go for it and score a touchdown, that's awesome.
You're probably going to win the game.

Speaker 2 If you go for it and you don't make it, they've got the ball on like the three-yard line.

Speaker 1 Alternatively, this is why at the end of a half, I'm okay with kicking a field goal. Yeah.
Because you don't get the benefit of putting them in a bad field position spot.

Speaker 2 You don't get that benefit.

Speaker 2 Listen, Trevor Lawrence,

Speaker 2 I don't think he's like a top-tier quarterback, but I think that

Speaker 2 Liam Cohen's got him doing something right.

Speaker 2 Even though he stunk last week at times and threw some real dumbass picks, I still stand by my take that when Trevor Lawrence is letting it rip and he's doing wild shit and feeling comfortable enough to the point where he's just sometimes throwing stupid interceptions confidently, I think the upside of Trevor Lawrence in that situation is worth the downside to him.

Speaker 1 Here's the weird one for Trevor Lawrence. When he has been tied in a game or trailing in a game, he's 11 touchdowns, two interceptions.

Speaker 1 When he's leading in a game, he's three touchdowns, nine interceptions. Maybe Trevor Lawrence is just too human because I think like that.

Speaker 1 When one of my teams is winning a game in my head I'm like this will last forever we're gonna win this game yeah and so what what does it matter if I throw it everywhere so maybe he's just too human so is that

Speaker 1 when they're leading he's throwing the most of it yeah he's throwing the majority of his interceptions I thought I thought it was the opposite for Trevor yeah no he's when leading I mean think about it on he threw three on Sunday I think they were leading in all of those yeah

Speaker 1 So he just gets when things are going well, they're going too well for Trevor. Yeah.
And he's just like, fuck it, I'm going to get back to even. I mean, get back to neutral.

Speaker 2 Things are going well for the Jaguars right now.

Speaker 2 If you look at the big picture, if you look at the record, and you can't, if you're a Jaguars fan, you can't dissect how did we get these wins or these actual wins? Are we a good team?

Speaker 2 You just got to focus on the record and the number of wins that you have. It's the first time, this would be the first time in 20 years for the Jaguars to win four times in November.
Whoa.

Speaker 1 Pretty crazy, right?

Speaker 2 Whoa. They haven't had, let's see, they haven't had four wins in the calendar month around Thanksgiving since 2005.
Whoa.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Okay.
Jaguars, do history.

Speaker 2 So just enjoy your November.

Speaker 1 Titans, by the way, lead the league in most scoreless halves this season with four.

Speaker 1 Who's second?

Speaker 1 Don't, this is bullshit. As soon as you started saying that, I was like, this is, this is.
It's a good question.

Speaker 2 I have no idea who it could be.

Speaker 1 We're talking about the Titans. We're talking about the Titans.

Speaker 2 It was a trivia question. It's a trivia question.

Speaker 1 Why do you have your anger?

Speaker 1 Why do you have your tier necklace on the microphone?

Speaker 1 Chiefs is incorrect. That's it.

Speaker 2 It's got to be a bad team, so I'm going to say

Speaker 2 incorrect.

Speaker 1 Next game. The Browns.
Rams.

Speaker 1 Incorrect, guys. Incorrect.
We don't know. No ball.
Nope. Oh, I have to beat the fuck out of here.

Speaker 1 Oh, it's the Bears. It's the Eagles.
No, it's probably the Commanders.

Speaker 2 What?

Speaker 1 Yeah, they have three scoreless halves this season. The Titans have four.

Speaker 2 The Raiders? That was the first time.

Speaker 1 No, it was the Eagles. That was probably early in the year, though.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Good point. Okay, next.

Speaker 2 Are you sure it's not the Commanders? I'm sure.

Speaker 1 We're really bad. He's still scoring the halves.

Speaker 2 Oh, that's crazy.

Speaker 2 I got an unexpected stat in this game. We talked about how you can't name a receiver on the Titans.
The booth couldn't figure out a receiver, and that's not a slam against the booth.

Speaker 2 They're a very anonymous bunch that they have out there. Who, the Booth? Yeah, the Booth.
Did you know that

Speaker 2 their receiver/slash returner, Chamir Adike,

Speaker 2 he is number one in the NFL in all-purpose yards? Oh. That's kind of wild, isn't it? Because of the punk.

Speaker 2 Probably because of, yeah, kick returns. Yeah, he's had a couple.
I would assume that, like, if you're playing against the Titans, you're kicking off a lot. But still, good for them.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 He's number one in the league. He actually has a chance to beat the all-time record.
for all-purpose yards. Oh.
Kind of something that you would think that people would have mentioned at some point.

Speaker 2 That is crazy. Because Darren Sprolls has the record.
He said in 2011 when he was on the Saints, that included a bunch of punt returns, that included a lot of stuff.

Speaker 2 But Jamira DK, just strictly through the incompetence of the Titans' defense and their offense putting other teams in good field position, he might end up setting the all-time record for all-purpose yards this season.

Speaker 2 That's crazy. Which would be wild.
Yeah. That is crazy.

Speaker 1 Okay, next game. Texans at Colts.
This is our main TV game.

Speaker 1 Over under 44.5. Colts are four and a half point favorites the Texans are practicing on Thanksgiving do we like that or do we think that's maybe hey D'Amico chill out

Speaker 1 that might be a chill out man the offense should practice on Thanksgiving he said as I told our guys I told them hey we can save that food for another day this week we're focused on the colts happy thanksgiving everybody hope you enjoy that time with your family

Speaker 2 we will be working they're gonna have like some shitty dry turkey in the in the team cafeteria like you had at school on thanksgiving like when it was like the uh the tuesday or wednesday before hey Hey, we're doing turkey too.

Speaker 2 Yep. It's going to be bad.
Yeah, the offense should practice. The defense give them the day off.

Speaker 1 The Colts, is this Panic Button if the Colts lose this game?

Speaker 2 Yeah, because...

Speaker 1 It would be three out of four, I believe, because they lost to the Steelers and they went and beat the Falcons International, then lost to the Chiefs. Yeah, this would be, hey, what's going on here?

Speaker 2 I would say Panic Button, and I would say that because... It would be a loss to the Texans.
And depending on what the Jaguars do this weekend, like, you're in a fight. Yeah.

Speaker 2 You're in a knife fight right now, Colts. Act accordingly.
You thought you were running away with it.

Speaker 1 Now you're in a fight. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Daniel Jones, by the way, versed the Blitz. Weeks one through eight, he was ranked second since week nine, 22nd.

Speaker 1 So that's not been good.

Speaker 2 What do we think about C.J. Stroud? Is he going to play?

Speaker 1 I think you just got to ride the hot hand, Davis Mills. I think C.J.
Stroud's going to play, but I would ride the hot hand. Mills look good.
Mills is 3-0.

Speaker 1 You can't take a guy out who's 3-0. Soft-benching?

Speaker 1 Come on.

Speaker 1 He's 3-0. They're soft-benching Davis Mills.

Speaker 2 No, they're currently soft-benching C.J. Stroud.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I don't know. He's been, yeah, it's been two and a half weeks.
What do you say?

Speaker 1 Texans coach expects Stroud to come back. Okay.

Speaker 1 So we'll

Speaker 1 see C.J. Stroud.
I kind of like the Colts in this game.

Speaker 2 If I was CJ, I'd be like, yeah,

Speaker 2 I'm not thinking straight. I'm having a very high sensitivity to lights.
I'll just stay home on Thanksgiving with my family.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I'll skip practice. Yeah, the Colts

Speaker 2 definitely considering the panic button. Shane Steichen is thinking about, he's overthinking himself now.
Oh, definitely.

Speaker 2 He's like, yeah, I very much regret not handing the ball off to Jonathan Taylor last week in the fourth quarter. He's been waking up in cold sweats thinking about that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the plays that he wanted to call. Next game, Saints at Dolphins.
Dolphins minus six over under 41.5. The Saints have signed Justin Tucker.
Have they signed him fully?

Speaker 1 They know they brought him in. Justin Tucker, is he a saint? No.

Speaker 1 Justin Tucker is a saint. Would be a hilarious sentence.
It didn't finish that sentence. Saints are working out veterans, so they worked him out.
Have they signed him? We need to find out.

Speaker 1 I don't think so.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 2 They probably got to the references check.

Speaker 1 But by the time these people are listening, yes. Okay, so the Saints are replacing Blake Ruby, not with Justin Tucker, Tucker, with Cabin York.
Okay.

Speaker 2 Okay, so they did a favor to Justin Tucker. This is like, yeah, Justin Tucker was like, can you just bring me in for a workout so that other teams see that you're kicking the tires on me?

Speaker 2 And then maybe I'll be more likely to get an opportunity this offseason.

Speaker 2 Why is Justin Tucker doing this?

Speaker 1 Also, why are the Saints doing this?

Speaker 2 Fair question on both sides, but like Justin Tucker.

Speaker 2 You've made a lot of money. Yeah.
Go be anonymous.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Live your life.

Speaker 2 He probably needs to get out of the house.

Speaker 1 You're still a kicker that most people would not recognize. Go.
If you're Justin Tucker, what's his career earnings? $51 million? Yeah. If I were Justin Tucker, I would move to San Diego.

Speaker 1 I'd live the rest of my life and no one would know who I am. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I think it's just about him wanting.

Speaker 2 It's a little tough around the house these days for Justin Tucker.

Speaker 2 It'd probably be good if he was gainfully employed and got to go somewhere every day.

Speaker 1 But the Saints are just doing this to piss, I guess, are they doing it to piss off their fans or are they just bringing him in and then saying, we're not signing him, give us credit.

Speaker 2 That's one way to look at it. It could also be the Saints like, hey, don't talk about our shitty season.
Get mad at us for bringing Justin Tucker.

Speaker 1 The Dolphins are still alive. We've talked about it before, but the Dolphins have been playing decent football, and somehow they're playing consequential football.

Speaker 1 It's going to be a very, very long shot for the Dolphins to make the playoffs, but they've won three out of four. They have the Saints this week, the Jets, Steelers, and Bengals.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 you could look up and the Dolphins could be there.

Speaker 1 I think it's still too far for them to climb, but they are playing decent football. Yep.

Speaker 2 This is your worst nightmare if you're a Dolphins fan. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Win just enough games to have an inconsequential draft pick. Yep.

Speaker 1 At least you'll have someone different taking the draft pick now. That's true.

Speaker 2 No more Chris Greer. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Falcons and Jets.

Speaker 1 Are you ready? Are you ready, memes? Jets plus two and a half over under 39.5. You think you're going to win this game? It's a possibility.
Okay, anything's possible.

Speaker 2 Yeah, the Jets are in a spot where I just want the season to end.

Speaker 1 Yep. But they have a favorable schedule where you could see them winning a couple games.
Can we pull up Tankathon again?

Speaker 1 Pull up Tankathon. Give us Tankathon.
And this is one of those games. Yeah, this is definitely Kirk Cousins outside, cold.
This is definitely one of those games. Big time one of those games.

Speaker 1 Jeff Ulbricht revenge game.

Speaker 2 Wait, is that his revenge against you guys or your guys' revenge against him?

Speaker 1 His revenge. It could go both ways.
Could go both ways.

Speaker 1 Oh, it'd be awesome if the Falcons played the Browns. Shador gets his revenge.
Yeah. Against Jeff Ulbrick.
Okay, right now, the Jets are sitting with the fourth pick. I don't think...

Speaker 1 I'm going to say it. I don't think the Titans...
The Titans might win one more game. I don't know if the Raiders can win another game.
The Titans play the Saints. Okay, so one of those.

Speaker 1 That's the most valuable one. You're rooting for the Saints in that game.
No, the Titans. Oh, you're rooting for the Saints.
And then the Saints play the Jets the week after.

Speaker 1 Saints need to win that game. Okay.
I'm trying to find the path to the first overall pick. Yeah, there's a path.
Well, I mean, the Titans, if they win. The Titans beat Titans and then Titans.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 Titans beat Saints. Saints beat Jets.

Speaker 1 The Titans. The Giants beat Patriots.
The Titans

Speaker 1 getting the number one pick would... They probably would trade it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but they also have.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, they probably would trade it. You just can't have the Saints or the Raiders get the number one overall pick because they're going to take quarterbacks.
Correct.

Speaker 1 So that's why we need to keep losing.

Speaker 1 There's also the Raiders play the Giants, so that'll move the Giants out.

Speaker 1 Got it. You just have to have the same record with the Raiders and Titans because the jet schedule is so easy that it bumps them up before everybody else.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but if the Titans do get the number one overall pick,

Speaker 2 you have enough draft ammo where you can move up, right?

Speaker 2 You do, but you also need those picks.

Speaker 1 You need the ammo.

Speaker 1 You need the ammo.

Speaker 2 Keep your powder dry. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Need the ammo. Yeah, you need all the good players you can get.

Speaker 2 Give me a roadmap to win against the Falcons this weekend. What does it look like?

Speaker 1 Couple Kirk Cousins interceptions.

Speaker 1 I see that.

Speaker 1 And Nick Folk.

Speaker 1 Four field goals. Close the door.
Four field goals.

Speaker 2 You hear people talking.

Speaker 1 That was closed. That was closed.
They're just talking right outside the studio. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Tell them, just yell, shut up. Tell them to shut up.

Speaker 1 Hey,

Speaker 1 shut up. Stop it.

Speaker 1 Who's someone's talking about salary cats?

Speaker 2 That sounded like Che to me.

Speaker 1 Wait, who's in the hall? Is that Che? I think it was Eddie.

Speaker 1 Who's talking salary cap? Salary cap.

Speaker 1 We may need to bring someone who's

Speaker 1 Dave.

Speaker 1 All right, fine. Let's hear what he said.
Salary cap. Is it baseball salary cap? Is it baseball salary cap, Dave?

Speaker 1 You have to come in and talk to me. You guys are talking baseball salary cap the day before Thanksgiving.

Speaker 1 I can't hear. They're here, and I'll give them that.

Speaker 1 Baseball salary cap?

Speaker 1 I would hear the argument to punt on a 2027 season if that meant. Are you talking about the White Sox?

Speaker 2 Are we talking football or base socks?

Speaker 1 We're talking baseball. Okay, all right.

Speaker 2 Are you talking specifically about the White Sox? I I am not talking about the White Sox at all.

Speaker 6 I would punt on a 2027 season as a baseball fan.

Speaker 3 I would hear the argument to you.

Speaker 1 I'm not saying I would personally, if that meant there was

Speaker 1 a healthy league from 2027 on. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

Speaker 2 So we're not talking about

Speaker 2 next year in baseball. We're talking about year after year.

Speaker 1 Two years.

Speaker 1 We were having it all outside the base T studio.

Speaker 1 I get, yeah.

Speaker 6 There's a couple guests here that asked me about it. Dave,

Speaker 1 do this. Redeem yourself right now.
Pick a number. Six.

Speaker 1 You actually got it.

Speaker 2 What does that mean if I get it? You get memes' anger. Memes is going to kill you, is what's going to happen.
Kill you.

Speaker 1 36. Close, Dave.
All right. Thank you, White Sox, Dave.

Speaker 1 Appreciate that.

Speaker 2 All right, so that's our 2027 MLB season preview.

Speaker 1 And that was our Saints Jets preview. Wait, no, no, no, no Jets Falcons.
Sorry. Memes,

Speaker 2 you have to finish with your roadmap.

Speaker 1 Nick Folk, four field goals.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 2 Two interceptions, four field goals. Jets get the win.

Speaker 1 Jets get the win. Okay.

Speaker 2 It's just depressing.

Speaker 2 There's no.

Speaker 1 This is one of those.

Speaker 1 There are.

Speaker 1 I'm going to go down the list, and I don't mean this in a bad way because, look, I'm going to bet on all these games. I'm going to watch all these games.

Speaker 1 But I think most fans would agree that if you look at Sunday's schedule, the Jets-Falcons game is depressing.

Speaker 1 The Jaguars-Titans game is not depressing because the Jaguars are still in it, but it could be a tough watch because I don't want to watch the Titans just period.

Speaker 1 The Saints-Dolphins game, kind of depressing. If it's Teddy Bridgewater versus Jacoby Brissette, that's depressing.
There's some depressing games out there.

Speaker 1 I saw somebody say, like, you have to view... When you're completely eliminated and your season's meaningless, at this point, you have to view it as the preseason.

Speaker 1 Guys are playing for Phil. Yeah, don't get emotionally attached to it.
Just treat it as the preseason. See who's going to be on your team next year.
and that's how you'll cope with the next six weeks.

Speaker 2 Do you think that the team is better without Quinn and Williams and Sauce Gardner? Right now, yeah. That's kind of crazy, isn't it?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I guess it's just all scheme.

Speaker 2 Like the last couple weeks.

Speaker 1 Do you think the Falcons wish they hadn't traded their first-round pick to the Rams?

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 1 Do you think that's the worst draft decision they've made in the last five years?

Speaker 1 Nope. Yeah, because I was looking at it the other night.
Kyle Pitts was taken fourth overall. Here are the names that were taken after Kyle Pitts.

Speaker 1 Jamar Chase, Jalen Waddell, Panay Sewell, JC Horn, Patrick Sertan, Devontae Smith, Micah Parsons, and Rashawn Slater. Yep.
Holy shit. This is.
That's insane. Those are.
The Falcons.

Speaker 1 Those are such good players.

Speaker 1 The COVID draft

Speaker 1 will go down in history.

Speaker 2 They constantly think that they're like one piece away. And you know what the craziest thing is?

Speaker 2 I bet some team's going to pick up Kyle Pitts, and he's going to be awesome. He's going to be sick.

Speaker 1 I wanted Kyle Pitts so bad in that draft. Like, he looked so sick.

Speaker 2 You might get him. How he might do his Howie thing.

Speaker 2 Howie!

Speaker 1 Howie did it again. Howie did it again.
Howie.

Speaker 1 The 2021 drafts you're talking about

Speaker 1 memes.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, I can laugh about this draft because the Bears took Justin Fields. You took Zach Wilson.
The amount of guy. The quarterbacks are bad.
And every guy after

Speaker 1 is incredible. Incredible.
I think the two best guys didn't even play that college season.

Speaker 1 Mike Carson's opted out and Jamar Chase also opted out. It's crazy, man.
There's some really good players.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so that's the Falcons.

Speaker 1 Falcons fans deserve better because their team is Arthur Blank. Sell the team.
Maybe not. Do they like him? I think.
He tries hard.

Speaker 2 I think overall,

Speaker 2 they're mad at him. They're mad at him for the results, but

Speaker 2 he did lower concession prices. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He's also in that category of there's certain owners that try really hard, but they're too dumb to do the right thing. Well, you're trying.

Speaker 2 Listen, Falcons fans,

Speaker 2 he turned down Bill Belichick.

Speaker 1 That's true. So just think about that.

Speaker 2 Take that whatever way you want.

Speaker 1 Also turned down Mike Webel.

Speaker 2 Also turned down Jordan.

Speaker 1 That could have been yours.

Speaker 2 Package deal.

Speaker 1 Okay, Cardinals at Bucs. Bucs minus three over under 44.5.
We don't know if Baker's going to play. He is not fully injured, right, Zach? They haven't ruled him out yet.
Okay. Just his brain, no.

Speaker 1 Zach, you excited to get back to Florida? Have you been back to Florida? We went in July for a couple days. That's right.
But, yeah, this is the longest stretch I've been out of the state so far.

Speaker 1 So I am excited. What's your first stop when you get back to Florida? First stop's going to be

Speaker 1 hit So K and then you hit the house. Yeah.
Die Coke, Polar Pop. That's about it.
You're just going to get Die Coke hits different down there? I I just like the fountain. I like the

Speaker 1 fountain soda the best.

Speaker 1 That's so close to my home there that I always rip. I just rip the fountain soda every day.
And where my apartment is currently, the fountain soda reach is limited. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah. What's the uh, what's the temperature going to be in Florida?

Speaker 1 It's like mid-70s. Oh, man.
80s in the daytime highs. The there's one day where it's kind of cold.

Speaker 1 Like, and by kind of cold, I mean like 50.

Speaker 2 Are you going to go outside?

Speaker 1 I'll be outside.

Speaker 2 Outside, but inside? I'll be like Jameis?

Speaker 1 Some of the days, maybe, but I'm definitely going to try to get all the way outside.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that looks awesome. Look at that.

Speaker 1 It's going to be beautiful.

Speaker 2 It looks awesome. You know what, though, that one.

Speaker 1 Jimmy photos by the pool. Like, hey, look at this beautiful day.

Speaker 2 It wouldn't feel like Thanksgiving. Oh, it's going to be so nice.

Speaker 1 I need to look cold.

Speaker 1 Liam Cohen, by the way, the Liam Cohen effect is real. He is.
Last year, the Jags were 25th in yards per play or yards per game. The Bucs were third.

Speaker 1 This year, the Jags are 16th, and the Bucs are 20th. So they've kind of flipped.

Speaker 1 It's real.

Speaker 1 The Bucs are in must-win.

Speaker 1 Have to win. Have to start winning.
Because this is,

Speaker 1 and like, Abuka's kind of, he had an incredible start to this season. He hasn't really been the same guy since then.
You got to start winning. Yeah,

Speaker 1 it kind of. You kind of have to start.

Speaker 2 If you're still worried about the Panthers. Well,

Speaker 1 yeah, I mean, I think you're a little bit worried about the Panthers. I guess the Panthers play the Rams, so that will be you expect the Rams to win that game.

Speaker 2 You want to see the Bucs looking better before the playoffs.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and you're just, I mean, they're banged up. You got to start winning some games.

Speaker 2 Zach, if we're up to you, does Baker start this weekend? I don't know if you play him.

Speaker 1 I know he's going to really want to play, and we do need to win, but I guess I'm not in the train. I don't know how bad this brain is.

Speaker 1 I just know how bad it looked, how painful it looked when he went down after he went back in.

Speaker 2 And Baker's definitely going to lie about how much it hurts.

Speaker 1 He's going to be like, I'm ready to play. Let's go.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's like when you go to the doctor and they're like, how many beers do you have a week? And you're like,

Speaker 2 I have about six beers a week, and they multiply that by four. That's what you have to do to Baker on the smiley face pain tolerance chart.
You got to skip three guys and go to the right.

Speaker 2 And that's what he's really thinking.

Speaker 1 The Bucs schedule, by the way, down the stretch is very easy. They play the Saints, the Falcons, the Panthers twice, and the Dolphins.

Speaker 1 So if they just split with the Panthers, you would think they're going to win the division. Yeah.
So it's not must-win yet. Take it back.

Speaker 2 But I do think that it's like,

Speaker 2 you would rather see the Bucs looking good again.

Speaker 1 Got to start looking better.

Speaker 2 Got to start looking better or else. Or else.

Speaker 1 Or else. And then, yeah, there's nothing else.

Speaker 2 It's just, I'm going to count down from three. And by the time I hit zero, you better be looking better.
Yeah. Or else.

Speaker 1 Hey, yeah, when I get, we're starting at five, four,

Speaker 1 three,

Speaker 1 two, one. All right.
You're going right to bed. Lights out.
Yep. Sorry, Bucs.
You're going to bed.

Speaker 2 That's such a good trick for kids. It's just turn the lights out.
And they're like, oh, my God.

Speaker 1 We're in trouble. Okay, next up, we got Rams at Panthers.
Panthers are 10.5-point underdogs.

Speaker 1 I feel like the Rams are going to win. I don't know if they're going to cover.
Rams are the best team in the NFL.

Speaker 2 Rams are pretty much I got them. Rams cover against pretty much everybody.

Speaker 1 They cover against everyone, and they're the best team in the NFL.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I think that's a fair analysis of this game.

Speaker 1 Also, hot seat, Aaron Rodgers, Devontae Adams said, I'm having the most fun playing that I've ever had.

Speaker 1 Hmm. Aaron Rodgers and Derek Carr.

Speaker 1 That actually tracks. Who would you rather get a beer with? Matthew Stafford, Aaron Rodgers, or Derek Carr? That's Matthew Stafford.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 That definitely tracks.

Speaker 2 Wait, who was the quarterback on the Jets when he was on the Jets?

Speaker 2 Aaron Rodgers. Aaron Rodgers.
Who else? Who's the backup, though?

Speaker 1 Memes,

Speaker 2 Mike White.

Speaker 1 No. Zach Wilson? Flacco? No.
No.

Speaker 1 Tyrod. Tyrod.

Speaker 2 I'm Pierre Tyrod would be okay. Yeah, he'd be good.
But yeah, Matt Stafford by far.

Speaker 1 Devontae Adams has 12 touchdowns this year. Is that right? Jesus Christ.

Speaker 2 He played 11 games.

Speaker 1 All he does is catch them. That's crazy.

Speaker 2 And I think they're getting 22 back.

Speaker 1 Ooh. Yeah, the Rams are rolling.
The Rams are rolling. And the Panthers, I don't trust them.
No, I just don't.

Speaker 1 I don't think they can.

Speaker 1 I don't trust them at all.

Speaker 2 Yeah, on strength of of schedule the Panthers also have the third hardest remaining schedule okay so the Bucs really don't have to worry yeah what can really just be that was the third hardest that was before Monday night football okay so it's probably still pretty hard yeah no they played the the last three games are bucks Seahawks Bucs yeah that's not easy now I'm rude for the Panthers I want that I want that division to be interesting I don't like runaways I want to see I want to see Panthers in the the circling graphic

Speaker 2 the circling sniffing around in the hunt graphic.

Speaker 1 Last night they had the seat at the table, and then they had the people outside banging on the windows. I like that.
The big boy table, and then the little kids' table.

Speaker 2 I like lurking. Yeah, lurking.

Speaker 1 Lurking's good. Lurking, sniffing around.
Vikings at Seahawks afternoon game. Seahawks are 10.5 point favorites.
Over-under is 41.5. Nine is in concussion protocol.

Speaker 2 Yep, so let's all pray for nine. Hope he's okay.
It sounds serious. He developed concussion-like symptoms after the game on the plane.
Reported them immediately. And And you got to be healthy.

Speaker 2 He probably had a concussion when he threw those interceptions.

Speaker 1 Have you guys seen, has Kurt Warner said anything bad about any quarterback ever?

Speaker 2 Yeah, I feel like there's been some guys that he hates.

Speaker 1 And I like Kurt Warner. He's been a guest on the show.
Obviously, he knows way more football than we do. He is the savior for if you have a quarterback and you're looking for positive spin zones.

Speaker 1 I know I've gone to Kurt Warner when I've needed that. And I know Vikings fans are going to Kurt Warner right now when they need it.
It's just, he's perfect.

Speaker 1 He's out there. And when you watch your team lose in a bummer fashion, you just got to be like, all right, well, we'll wait till Kurt Warner talks about it.

Speaker 1 And he might give us a different perspective. He's doing that with nine, saying it's not all that bad.
He's got to work on his

Speaker 1 fundamentals, his mechanics.

Speaker 1 But don't give up on nine is what he's saying. Yeah, I'm not going to give up on nine.

Speaker 2 No. I'm not.
Can't do it. What if Max Brosmer is awesome? Right when you give up on nine, that's when you get nine.

Speaker 2 That's when you get you.

Speaker 1 What if Max Brosmer is awesome?

Speaker 2 I guess what, yeah, he's thrown like seven passes, I think.

Speaker 1 The Max Brosmer game is coming. No, it's going to be Sam Darnold.
Sam Donald's going to kick their ass.

Speaker 2 It's going to be Sam Darnold on the Revenge tour. I have a prediction about this Viking season.
Okay. Obviously, we're talking about nine, the concussion thing.
Some are saying soft CTE. I don't know.

Speaker 2 At some point, if it keeps going this way for JJ, we're going to get some leaks from the Vikings about guys that didn't want to draft him in that building.

Speaker 2 We're going to get leaks from guys being like, This offseason I wanted to keep Daniel Jones.

Speaker 2 We're going to get leaks saying, I can't believe we let Sam Darnold out of the building.

Speaker 2 There's going to be somebody that's going to want to

Speaker 2 maybe not necessarily take credit for it, but make sure that the public knows that it was not him who made the decision on J.J. McCarthy.

Speaker 1 A huge draft mistake.

Speaker 1 What's the old saying? Victory has a thousand sons.

Speaker 1 Failure is a widow.

Speaker 2 Failure is an orphan.

Speaker 1 Orphan. Orphan.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 Failure has far too many fathers. No, that's the opposite.
Victory, it's a great saying.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm looking it up.

Speaker 2 Failure is an orphan.

Speaker 1 Failure is an orphan. Victory has a thousand fathers, but defeat is an orphan.
Yep. I like it.

Speaker 1 That's what's going to happen.

Speaker 1 I'm buying it on the Sam Darnold revenge game. Oh, for sure.

Speaker 1 Even though I think he probably is happy that Kevin O'Connell took him in and made him a lot of money and got him a starting job in Seattle. He's living his best life.
He's won the breakup.

Speaker 1 But still, he's got to be a little bit like, that was kind of shitty. I'm good.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I played really good last year until the last two games, and then you thought you had something better. Turns out I got something better.

Speaker 2 The only thing about this is, you know that Brian Flores is just going to blitz the fuck out of him. Oh, yeah.
Like, this is,

Speaker 2 he's done it in practice. He probably wasn't allowed to blitz blitz Sam Darnold the way that he really wanted to in practice last year.

Speaker 2 So, this is going to be the first time that he's going to get to be like, see what I could have done to him last year? Yep. If you had just let me coach?

Speaker 1 Do we see JJ McCarthy again this year?

Speaker 2 Yep. Okay.
I think you have to. If you're the Vikings, you have to.
No matter how bad it's been, you got to see what you got. Okay.
What do you think, Hank?

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 1 You see JJ McCarthy? You see nine buying in on nine? Yeah. The nine people have gone silent.
They have. Greer was just posting.
That's not true.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 they're doing like when you make fun of nine, you're making fun of a new father. Right.

Speaker 1 That's where we're at on the nine disc. So you're making fun of head injuries.

Speaker 1 You don't respect CTE.

Speaker 2 That's a good point. Yeah.
And a new dad.

Speaker 1 That's the only one. I think that's the only one I got.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 A lot of that. I can't believe you'd be.
He's a father.

Speaker 1 He's a husband. He's a Christian.

Speaker 2 He's a leader.

Speaker 1 The only reason he played so bad was because he was playing with the concussion. Well, he got concussed with four minutes left in the game.

Speaker 1 No, Max is right. We don't know when.

Speaker 1 We don't know when.

Speaker 1 No, we don't know. He literally got hit in the head and went straight to his smelling salts.

Speaker 2 That might have been earlier in the game, too. That might have been a secondary hit.

Speaker 1 Imagine.

Speaker 2 So you're saying he got more than one concussion.

Speaker 1 Imagine just adding insult to injury. Nine's legacy is he gets smelling salts re-banned.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Wait, are you saying that maybe he got the concussion from the smelling salts? No, no, he got he.

Speaker 1 You could pull up the clip. Because four minutes left, he gets absolutely flattened, and then he immediately takes out a smelling salt out of his pouch to wake back up.

Speaker 2 I could see nine being the kind of guy that would

Speaker 2 take such a gnarly hit of smelling salts that he got himself a concussion from inhaling.

Speaker 1 One of the interceptions was after the hit.

Speaker 1 So that's minus one.

Speaker 2 And we don't know if that was the first concussion or not that game that he had. Correct.

Speaker 1 Great point being.

Speaker 2 He could have had like six.

Speaker 2 Maybe even more than six.

Speaker 2 He could have been the most concussed. Nine.

Speaker 2 I think that

Speaker 2 we're not going to be super excited about Max Brosmer if I had to go out on a limb. He actually might be, we might look at him and then everyone needs nine back.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Steelers, Bills.

Speaker 1 This is a must-win for both teams. Bills are plus three and a half, over-unders, 47.5.

Speaker 2 Must win. Must win.
I like the Bills.

Speaker 2 This is Mike Tomlins special. They're underdogs at home against the Bills.
But the offense in Pittsburgh is

Speaker 2 Arthur Smith, if you're listening to the show, just hit the fast-forward button like four times.

Speaker 2 The Steelers have not completed a pass that traveled over 20 yards in the air in the entire month of November. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Four games, 0 for 11 on those passes. Two interceptions.

Speaker 2 Yikes.

Speaker 2 That's bad. That's really bad.
That's about as bad as it gets. That's really bad.
And we thought that the offense would be different this year.

Speaker 2 This is the same old Steelers.

Speaker 1 This is the same old Steelers. And yeah, if you saw their pass chart, they just did not throw anything in the middle of the field,

Speaker 1 which you would think you'd want to against the Bears who have no linebackers.

Speaker 1 It was ugly. This is what they've been doing.
Steelers, but maybe it's a Mike Tomlin spot. I mean, Josh Allen has to play better.
I also think the Bills have to just run the ball more.

Speaker 1 I think they have to just take the pressure, especially with who knows what's going on with Keon Coleman? Who knows what's going on? Well, who else is out? Dalton Kincaid is still out? Is that right?

Speaker 1 I believe so. Or is maybe he's coming back? Ever since Chris Long told us that they have the weapons because of the two tight ends, it's been,

Speaker 1 yeah, oh, here we go.

Speaker 1 In games, Dalton Kincaid has played the full game this year. Bills are 6-1.
They're 1-3 when he's missed or exited for an injury. Okay.

Speaker 1 So will he come back?

Speaker 2 Yeah, this is...

Speaker 2 I'd say it's probably must-win territory for the Steelers. And the Bills.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I think it's for the Bills as well.
The Bills are in trouble if they lose this game.

Speaker 2 So if the Steelers lose to the Bills, I'd say it's very likely that they will not make the playoffs. If they beat the Bills,

Speaker 2 all they have to do is split with the Ravens,

Speaker 2 and then they have games against the Browns and Miami that they should win. And if they do that, they'll have 10 wins.
They should make the playoffs.

Speaker 2 But it's very, very much dependent on being able to beat the Bills. Yeah.
We're going to get a ton of McDermott, Tomlin, William, and Mary pictures. Yes.

Speaker 1 At least one. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 We're getting at least one. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Absolutely.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Let's see. What do we got?

Speaker 1 Next up.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there's. Oh, look, they're best friends.
Yeah. Did you know this? They shared a dorm together.

Speaker 2 Holy shit. These guys.

Speaker 1 Raiders, Chargers.

Speaker 1 I don't care. Chargers.
I mean, Chargers, Chargers. No front there, 41.5.

Speaker 1 I can't watch the Raiders anymore. Wait, Max.

Speaker 1 I put him in the power ranking tier this week of doing

Speaker 1 irreparable damage to the sport of football. Yeah.
What's that, Max? Max.

Speaker 2 Max, was the camera on you? No. When you did that, you did a Roman salute back there.
No,

Speaker 1 no, no, Max did the

Speaker 1 Elon?

Speaker 1 That's not a Roman salute.

Speaker 2 No, the first time. Max, the first time you did it.
I went like this.

Speaker 1 No, you were pointing.

Speaker 2 I'm going to do it with my left hand.

Speaker 2 It was 45 degrees up.

Speaker 1 I went like this, but there's the motion.

Speaker 2 What's going on back there, Max?

Speaker 1 Good to go.

Speaker 2 That's good to go. Yeah, this game's good to go.

Speaker 1 It's good to go. I like that.

Speaker 1 I actually like that a lot. This game is good to go.

Speaker 2 No, I don't care to think about the Raiders anymore until, like, yeah, further notice. Chip Kelly, he's gone.
Okay, they've got the...

Speaker 2 Their quarterbacks coach, Greg Olson, is now their offensive coordinator. And this is his third stint being the offensive coordinator for the Raiders.

Speaker 2 And it's like every five years, this guy gets a job being the offensive coordinator for the Raiders.

Speaker 2 And then he has to give it up again, go back to being a quarterbacks coach, and they bring him back. Good for that.
He's the ultimate interim OC

Speaker 2 for Vegas. The Chargers got to do something.
You got to look alive, Chargers. I feel like I'm poking them with a stick.

Speaker 1 Look alive, Chargers. Look alive.
Do something.

Speaker 2 Act like we're expecting you to act, Chargers.

Speaker 1 Do something. Anything.

Speaker 1 Anything that would be fun. Like, Gino doesn't even throw picks anymore.
Throw the picks. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Harbaugh coming back off a bye.

Speaker 2 What does Harbaugh even do during a bye week when there's no football during the football season?

Speaker 1 He just watches football. He just gets better, self-scouts.

Speaker 2 I think he probably could show up to the facility and just pretend that it's game day. Yeah.

Speaker 2 He probably, he definitely puts on the game day attire and the cleats on Sunday to keep himself in the habit. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 He missed football.

Speaker 2 He goes to the office every day for sure.

Speaker 2 I'm going to expect big things from the Chargers, and then I will be very disappointed if I don't get big things from them.

Speaker 1 Okay, last game, Sunday Night Football. Why are you on Sunday Night Football? That's a great question.
Brock, Commanders.

Speaker 2 I begged and pleaded to not have the Commanders on Sunday Night Football.

Speaker 1 Commanders are six and a half point underdogs. Over under is 43.5.
I do think you could probably stick in this game a little.

Speaker 2 Yeah, in fact, I think it's probably not a bad bet to bet the commanders to score first. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Or at least commanders, maybe first half, money line, and then it all falls apart in the second half because that's kind of the MO for Broncos games.

Speaker 2 So, you know, that stat about Mariota, his last three games. Yep.
He's had exactly 213 yards passing three weeks in a row.

Speaker 2 I believe that's the first time in the history of the NFL that that's ever happened. Can we bet it?

Speaker 2 Well, let me just add one more little stat on top of that one. The Broncos have given up 2,342 yards passing over 11 games.
Oh, boy.

Speaker 2 That is an average of 213 yards per game. Wow.

Speaker 2 I'm going to guess that Mariota, the over-under, is going to be around 200.

Speaker 2 Wow. Like, all the signs are telling me Mariota, 213 again.
Yeah. Make it happen.

Speaker 2 Yeah, this is going to be a bad game. We're going to lose.
Jaden Daniels says he wants to come back and play. Jaden Daniels should not come back and play.

Speaker 2 I'm begging you, do not let him come back and play. Terry McLaurin, who knows if he's going to play football? Noah Brown, he never really played football.
He played one game. He caught the Hail Mary.

Speaker 2 And then just nothing from him. The defense is, I think, the most expensive in the NFL.
And they're like the worst in the NFL. Things are bad.

Speaker 2 Things are not looking good. But tankathon.
Tankathon. Tankathon.
I'm just really proud of all the bad teams this weekend.

Speaker 1 I think the Broncos in this game beat the Commanders by a lot.

Speaker 1 Let's start. Broncos start.
And I'm not saying I want them them to do that against you. I'm saying if you want to start impressing me to the level

Speaker 1 I was very impressed with their win against the Chiefs. Now it's can you not toy around with the bad teams? Yeah.
You know? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Kick the shit out of the bad teams.

Speaker 2 Again, I think they will kick the shit out of us, but I think

Speaker 2 there's a better than 50-50 chance that the commanders get out to an early lead. Yep.
And then it's going to be downhill. Why is this game on Sunday Night Football? It sucks.
Why?

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 2 I guess, well, we were looking at the slate. We don't have to stream it.
There's nothing good on the slate. I guess Bill's Steelers would have been good.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's a consequence. I think Colts Texas is going to be a good game.
Colts Texas. Colts, Texas.
I'm ready for that game.

Speaker 1 That's my favorite game. That's my favorite game on Sunday.

Speaker 1 This game's good to go, though. Yeah, this game's good to go.
Good to go. Good to go.
I like that. We should start.
We'll just have, whenever we get a questionable game, we'll take it to the booth.

Speaker 1 And Max would just be like, good to go. I also, I was like, I don't.

Speaker 1 That's a commercial from 2005 from what that's from. So it's good to go.

Speaker 2 I would just prefer that.

Speaker 2 I don't want anybody to watch my team. Everyone, close your eyes.
I just want to be, I want to be left alone. Listen, it's a long week.
With my crummy team. It's a long weekend.

Speaker 1 You got Sunday scaries after Thanksgiving. Just go to sleep.
Was that memes?

Speaker 2 I like that take. I love that take.

Speaker 1 Yeah, nobody.

Speaker 2 I don't want anybody else. Nobody should watch this game.
Yeah. Like, it honestly feels perverted that you would want to tune in and watch this.

Speaker 2 This is a personal matter that I have that I'm dealing with. This is, I want to spend more time with my football team.
Please respect my privacy.

Speaker 2 Just do not watch this game for your own good and also for my own.

Speaker 2 I don't need other people telling me things I already know about how bad my team is.

Speaker 2 I know there's nothing you could say that could hurt me about my crummy team. I just want to let me watch them and kind of be sad in peace.
That'd be a good thing.

Speaker 1 This is the perfect game to skip because it's Sunday after Thanksgiving.

Speaker 1 Whether you're traveling or not, you've had a long week of eating, sitting on the couch, watching endless amounts of football. You got the Sunday scaries.
You got to go back to work.

Speaker 1 Just pass.

Speaker 2 I do have a question for you about the commanders,

Speaker 2 though.

Speaker 2 Should I want to re-sign Debo this offseason?

Speaker 1 I think you've got to just, I think the commanders have to focus on getting significantly younger. I would agree with that.

Speaker 2 However, Debo's look pretty good when he's had the ball.

Speaker 1 It depends on the price. But yeah, I think the youth is all that matters for the commanders at this point.
Like, try to get as many draft picks as you can. Try to get as many young guys.

Speaker 1 You need to build a roster of young guys. Kyle Pitts.
Kyle Pitts.

Speaker 2 Maybe Kyle Pitts.

Speaker 1 Zach Ertz.

Speaker 2 Listen, I love Zach Ertz. He's a great football player, even better human being.

Speaker 2 I might have gone that backwards. It's one or the other.

Speaker 2 He really turned into Lockett later on in his career where he just catches the ball. He

Speaker 2 sits down.

Speaker 2 I don't blame him at all. It's like, yeah, I don't want to get hit by a linebacker either.
Yeah. But yeah, he's,

Speaker 2 things are old. Things are old.
Things are getting old.

Speaker 1 Okay, let's do our picks, and then we'll do the fantasy minute, and then we'll finish with the TD parlay.

Speaker 1 The standings are, I think I already did the standings earlier in the show, so we still need a punishment, boys.

Speaker 1 We got to get a punishment because if we get really close, then people who are in last are not going to want to do a punishment. Outdoor boys.

Speaker 2 What are the outdoor boys? Film an outdoor boys video.

Speaker 1 That was my, that was my okay. I don't know if I brought that up on here on air.
We can bring back the drive.

Speaker 1 Drive to the drive to

Speaker 1 drive to the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 We could bring back the drive. Eggnog week.

Speaker 2 Eggnog week. Go on? Yeah,

Speaker 1 you can only survive on eggnog for a week.

Speaker 1 I like eggnog week. Eggnog week.
That shit sounds good. That doesn't help my.
Eggnog week is rocks. I'll live in the van for the seven days, like you said.

Speaker 1 Driving the van out would be sick because then we could do interviews out of it.

Speaker 2 Hank, you disagree?

Speaker 1 Can the van get out there? I think so.

Speaker 1 But I do not know.

Speaker 1 I can't say,

Speaker 1 you know, I can't say conclusively. Okay, who's up? Do you want to snake it back this way?

Speaker 1 Whoever who was Hank had to p first pick first, you had last. So do you want to snake it back? Oh, so then I just go? Yeah.
Okay.

Speaker 2 And then PFT and then DAC.

Speaker 1 Okay, and then next week we'll just go one down the line again.

Speaker 1 That makes sense.

Speaker 1 My first pick is going to be

Speaker 1 the

Speaker 1 oh man, I hate these games. I really don't like these games.

Speaker 2 I will take

Speaker 1 Bill Steelers over 47 and a half. No idea the weather.
Okay.

Speaker 1 You're up, PFT.

Speaker 2 I am going to take

Speaker 2 Bucks Cardinals

Speaker 2 under 44.5. Okay.

Speaker 1 Suspecting Denny Bridgewater.

Speaker 1 Zach? I would like to take the Tambay Buccaneers minus three in that game. Okay.

Speaker 1 I would like to take the New York Football Giants plus seven and a half. Okay.

Speaker 1 Monday night football. Memes.
I would like to take the Saints Dolphins over 41.5.

Speaker 1 Kind of like it.

Speaker 1 I will take the New England Patriots minus 7.5.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 the

Speaker 1 Raiders, Chargers under 41.5.

Speaker 1 Okay, come back, memes. I'm going to take the Jaguars minus six and a half.
I pick against Titans every week. Titans cover every week.
I think this is the week they don't cover. Okay.

Speaker 1 Chasing that one. Max.

Speaker 1 Has anyone taken Browns, Niners under 38? Nope, nope.

Speaker 1 I will be taking that.

Speaker 2 I got 37.5 right now.

Speaker 1 Oh, 37.5.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 I would like to take the over in the Vikings Seahawks came at 41.5.

Speaker 1 Okay. Okay.

Speaker 2 I'm going to take

Speaker 2 the Tennessee Titans plus six and a half.

Speaker 1 I mean, they cover every week. Yeah, they do.
I'm going to take one that I hate because this line makes no sense to me. I feel like this should be a field goal line.

Speaker 1 I'm going to take the Colts minus four and a half. I feel like

Speaker 1 that's a field goal line. Why is it four and a half? I don't know.
They know something.

Speaker 2 Oh, we got to give away tickets to the Colts. Oh.
On Sunday.

Speaker 2 You haven't done that.

Speaker 1 You've been doing that in forever. Well, they haven't played at home in a while.
That can't be.

Speaker 2 Look at their schedule. Pull up the schedule now, Max.
I'm pulling up the schedule.

Speaker 1 Pull it up.

Speaker 1 I'm pulling it up.

Speaker 2 Okay, Davis Mills coming to town.

Speaker 1 They played at home two weeks ago.

Speaker 2 Yeah, two weeks ago.

Speaker 1 That's a really long time.

Speaker 2 We missed that one. No, they were in.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 They were in Germany. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so how long has it been? Wait, vindication. It's been a month.
It's been a month.

Speaker 2 It's been a month since they played at home.

Speaker 2 Texans in town, how about the Colts fan with the longest neck?

Speaker 1 Okay. Send

Speaker 2 pictures of yourself if you're a Colts fan or you just want to go to the game, you got a long neck. Tweet that at pardon my meme.
That's at pardon my meme. And memes will select

Speaker 2 and say what that neck do gets you into the Colts game.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 TD parlay, JSN. What do you guys got?

Speaker 1 Give us a pick. Hank, PFT.

Speaker 1 Give me J.K.

Speaker 2 Dobbins.

Speaker 1 Editor's note here.

Speaker 1 J.K. Dobbins is out for the year, so we are going to go with Lad McConkey here.
Lad McConkie.

Speaker 2 Give me

Speaker 2 Bajan. Bajan.

Speaker 1 Wait, is that a bad day? Wait, that's early. That's early.

Speaker 2 I'll do another one. You took J.K.
Dobbins.

Speaker 2 Give me James Cook.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Give me James Cook. Yep.
It's all in the afternoon. All right, let's wrap up.
Great show, everyone.

Speaker 1 Jerry's Fantasy Minute, which I gave him two minutes for Thanksgiving. We thought he's a good friend of ours.
Said, hey, you get two minutes. Did he use two minutes? I don't know.

Speaker 1 He could have used two minutes. He could have not.
I said, you have the ability to do two minutes. Oh, look at it.
Oh, he did two minutes on the dot. Is he at a wedding?

Speaker 2 Yeah, why?

Speaker 1 He looks so good.

Speaker 2 Monday wedding? He's a hot guy.

Speaker 1 This was Monday night. Okay.

Speaker 2 Some sort of gala. Go ahead.

Speaker 7 start the music memes start the music i got two minutes this time two minutes uh first of all i want to thank um

Speaker 7 i want to start uh pft and big cat for giving me two minutes for this special uh thanksgiving episode of uh

Speaker 7 fantasy minute uh i then uh

Speaker 1 i want to sit uh time zones

Speaker 7 what the is going on with Arizona? What time zone is that? Games are starting, man. Nobody knows what time it's starting.
So we're going to sit time zones.

Speaker 7 We're going to start Tate McRae. Come on, PFT and Big Cat.

Speaker 1 Everybody knows who Tate McRae is. Gorgeous young lady, not to be overshadowed by our queen, Tiffany Gomez, but Tate, show us your tootsies.

Speaker 7 We're going to start

Speaker 1 Don Quixote. Spoilers, Hank.

Speaker 1 Spoiler alert. Don Quixote gets injured in a duel and he dies in the end.

Speaker 1 He dies. Bing bong.
I know you don't like reading. It makes you sleepy.
Sleepy Hank. You read like a half a page and your eyes start to close.
So yeah, Don Quixote dies.

Speaker 1 Hey, we're going to start the Hank toy, which you can get at the barstool sports store. It's so great.
I heard

Speaker 2 Tiffany Gomas got one, but the Hank toy didn't blow it with her.

Speaker 1 You blew it. Bing bang.

Speaker 1 We're going to

Speaker 1 sit.

Speaker 1 Pablo Torres. We're going to sit him.

Speaker 2 We're going to sit his ass in court.

Speaker 1 That's what you get.

Speaker 1 Sorry, the light just went out here.

Speaker 1 We are going to

Speaker 7 start

Speaker 7 Lawrence Taylor.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Old LT, we're going to start him.

Speaker 2 He was right there in Jordan's box.

Speaker 1 We see you, LT.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And we're going to sit Zach Spelling. Come on, dude.
Cortinator, coordinator. Just...

Speaker 2 Just AI it.

Speaker 1 It's all right there. All right, everybody.
That's it. I did it.
Call 1-800.

Speaker 7 Enjoy Don's box. Have a good day.

Speaker 1 All right. It's great.
Thank you, Jerry. I like the extended cut.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he really emptied the clip on that one.

Speaker 1 He spoiled Don Quixote for Hank.

Speaker 2 Are you going to stop reading, Hank? Nope.

Speaker 1 What page are you on?

Speaker 1 75. Okay.
What's up, Had? Just keep chugging along.

Speaker 2 Jerry is.

Speaker 2 He played the hits. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Always do that.

Speaker 2 This is why we give him a minute. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay, boys. Happy Thanksgiving to all.

Speaker 2 Also, for the record, Jerry, I knew exactly who Tate McRae was. It was Big Cat the time.
I did not.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I don't know.
I'm not familiar with her work. Now I am.
Now I know.

Speaker 1 It was one of those names I knew the name, but I didn't know what she looked like or any of her songs. Now I do.

Speaker 2 I like the chicklets take on it, which was that she is

Speaker 2 like poisoning Jack Hughes' mind.

Speaker 2 It's pretty good ahead of the Olympics. Yeah.
She's getting his brain.

Speaker 5 Okay.

Speaker 1 Good show, boys.

Speaker 1 Everyone have a happy Thanksgiving. Travel safely, and we will be back on Monday.
Numbers. Three.
Yeah. Good job.
He's so proud of himself. None of us.

Speaker 2 He's got the point where if memes gets the number three, that's like a little mini-win for him. And none of us guess either.

Speaker 1 22. 32.
Calm. 22.
83. 25.

Speaker 2 I'm going to go with

Speaker 4 99 poke.

Speaker 2 68.

Speaker 1 I go 71.

Speaker 1 85

Speaker 1 85.

Speaker 1 All right. See you guys.
Love you guys.

Speaker 2 Happy Thanksgiving.