NFL Week 12, Fastest 2 Minutes, Chiefs Survive, Cowboys Comeback, Bears 8-3, Jahmyr Gibbs vs Jameis + Who's Back Of The Week

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Speaker 1 On today's part of my take presented by DraftKings, it is week 12 in the NFL. We're talking every game from Sunday.
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Today is Monday, November 24th, and it's week 12.

Speaker 1 Whoop!

Speaker 1 Happy Thanksgiving to all and to all a good night. Psalm spread.
Psalms. You know who the real turkey is? Boom.
Who? Obama. Whoop!

Speaker 1 In Chicago, where the day started with Mr. Rogers' neighborhood being not so welcoming as he flipped the bird to Cameron and belongs in jail.

Speaker 1 Mason Ramsey Rudolph was forced to play in his place and went balls to the wall, Mart, as he tried to capture a Steelers' win. Ooh, what you say?

Speaker 1 That it's all for the sack as TJ rules all the Watts, passing his brother JJ for career sacks with 115.

Speaker 1 Down there, three starting linebackers, it was DeMarco Samuel Jackson who told Dennis Allen, hold on to your butts, doing just enough to stop the Steelers. DJ, more, more, more.

Speaker 1 How do you like it? How do you like it? More, more, more.

Speaker 1 How do you like it? How do you like it? Scored twice on Sunday, and the 8-3 Bears have an entire internet saying they can't keep getting away with this. Bears, 31.
Steelers, 28. Whoop, whoop.

Speaker 1 We go to Lambeau Field as Kevin Ocasio-Cortez and the Minnesotaist Vikings look to overcome J.J. McCarthyism and leave their marks on the community-owned Packers.

Speaker 1 Palachek wasn't the only coach thinking about Jordan Love all this week, as Matt LaFleur did some cheerleading of his own, trying to get his QB back in a winning mindset.

Speaker 1 Josh Acups showed up flat and was being a little boob about it, so Emmanuel Woodrow Wilson got the call to give his 14 points, scoring two touchdowns.

Speaker 1 The Packers kept running the ball and trusting their defense defense as micah arsons was fired up dialing nine one-on-one and getting the national championship winning qb justin jefferson starship was looking back at the two qbs singing wouldn't i like somebody to love don't i need somebody like love wouldn't i love somebody like love i better find somebody like love But him and the white rabbit Adam Thielen better find the pills that Brett Favre used to take that makes them not feel anything at all as this season is starting to look just a tiny little bit out of hand, which is also an accurate description of Brett Favre's most infamous pictures.

Speaker 1 The Packers, 23, the Vikings, 6. Tommy Croc shots? Talking about his penis.
You're talking Crocs. When he shot his penis to a woman.

Speaker 1 Hey, now we go to Baltimore, where Memes was there to watch his Jets.

Speaker 5 We head to Baltimore, where Lamar Samuel Jackson is tired of these motherfucking injuries to his motherfucking legs.

Speaker 5 As the Ravens' offensive struggles continue, Tyrod Tiana Taylor said, You're gonna love me as he found John. It's Britney Metch and watched me whip.

Speaker 5 Now watch me Adene Nay Mitchell who have both been upgrades to the Jets passing game.

Speaker 1 Ha, Zay Flowers was the only one able to catch the ball while Derek Henry Lockwood said, I'm a dog.

Speaker 5 Toy. They're on sale this Friday in the barstool store limited amount while scoring two touchdowns.

Speaker 5 The Jets touchdown in the first half made the Ravens defense and rich homie Roquan Smith feel some type of way as Marlon Waynes Humphrey said, run, bitch, run, as he tracked Brees Hall down to force the fumble to ice the game.

Speaker 5 Ravens 23, Jets 10.

Speaker 1 Thanks, Beams. Over to Cincinnati, where Hank was there.

Speaker 1 Over to Cincinnati, where in the first quarter, it looked like Gino, Sorceress Stone, was wearing the invisibility cloak because Draco Malfoy May didn't see him on an interception over the middle.

Speaker 1 And he could go off the way. to give for seven to give the bagels a 10-0 lead.
Hunter Henry Wrinkler responded, hey,

Speaker 1 I don't want to see where I've been. I want to see how cool I look getting there.
As he scampered in for a 28-yard touchdown of his own.

Speaker 1 Joe Wacko was looking the part in the second corner when he was picked off by Marcus Aurelius Jones, who asked the crowd, are you not entertained? After taking it back 33 yards to the house.

Speaker 1 Mitchell Tinsel E tried to use the holiday spirit to kick a fourth quarter comeback into gear, but Mike Rabel was the Grinch and the Patriots win 26-20.

Speaker 1 Thanks Hank in In Kansas City, where they say football is a game about the Jimmys and Johns, as the Colts look to hunt down the big-game Chiefs and put a pelt on the wall.

Speaker 1 But the hunted became the hunter as Kareem ripped off 104 yards and a score in a thriller. Colts fans are singing, pass me a bottle, Mr.
Jones. Help me believe in anything.

Speaker 1 Like, can we get a first down when we want to win the game? Because if we can't, it's going to be a long December.

Speaker 1 The Chiefs season started in South America, but it was a Brazilian bucker lift that the team needed to keep their playoff hopes alive as he went five for five and the Chiefs stay alive. Chiefs, 23.

Speaker 1 Colts, 20.

Speaker 1 We go to Glendale, Arizona, where the West Coast Jaguars look to make it 3-0 on the Pacific time zone this season. Huh? Huh? Huh? The Jaguars running on the Pacific time zone?

Speaker 1 Things looked ugly early with some bad turnovers as Walter Colin III had touched down number two of the day and pushed his little balloon nut into the end zone.

Speaker 1 And just as these cardiac cats have been riding the lightning over their past couple games, Liam Talca Cohen said, take my hand.

Speaker 1 We're off to Trevor. Trevor Land.
Oh,

Speaker 1 yeah.

Speaker 1 They got the win, and nothing else matters.

Speaker 1 It was the Arizona Cardinals running backs who looked more like the star of the one music video, unable to see or walk, as Bam Night Knight looked half asleep.

Speaker 1 The Jags overcome all the turnovers to force overtime where Cam Little Boy unleashed a small nuke becoming the hero Shima of the day.

Speaker 1 Jacoby Percent didn't look that great, but just imagine how much worse it would have been with Kyler Murray who might have to sign with a minor league contract this offseason with Taylor and Bush Gaming.

Speaker 1 Jags 27 cards 24

Speaker 1 We go to Dallas where these two teams don't like each other. Max.

Speaker 1 We head over to Dallas where AJ Milley Bobby Brown was looking super natural early as 11 went for six to start off the scoring for the Eagles. But things started looking stranger when his target

Speaker 1 started to diminish after the first quarter. Luke, Saquon, Barkley, and the Eagles' offensive line were sleepwalking through this game as they continue to disappoint their team.

Speaker 1 George Lucas Pickens may be in a galaxy far, far. Far away from the rest of the receivers in the league as he absolutely torched the Eagles secondary all game.

Speaker 1 Xavier Gibson's guitars should be turning, should be returning less balls for the Eagles since he absolutely fucking blows. Eagles lose, who cares?

Speaker 1 And finishing Sunday night football with another blog, Zach.

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Passes Tavante Adam Sandler from one yard out.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 Then the great British baker Mayfield Off throws a pass intended for Kate Otten. Is it cake?

Speaker 4 Nope, it's a pick six. But wait, Baked Goods Mayfield drops his croissant into the end zone to Tez Magic Johnson.

Speaker 4 Bucks fans all over should be happy with Tez Johnson because the Bucs have a really good player in Tez Johnson.

Speaker 4 Lastly, Harrison Ford Mivis helped the Rams win, but in no way at all was he their only hope with a 40-yard field goal straight through the uprights. Los Angeles, win.
Tampa Bay, loss.

Speaker 1 Standing on the corner, Jameis Switzerland in Hoboken, such a fine sight to see.

Speaker 1 A 10-point lead, my lord. That's not enough scores for New York to get a victory.

Speaker 1 Come on, Cafka, another Lord.

Speaker 1 Fans want to hang Shane Bowen from the rafters.

Speaker 1 Lions 34, the G-Men 27.

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Speaker 1 Okay, week 12 in the books, boys. We'll talk Sunday night football at the very end.
We also will talk some Thursday night football at the very end. We missed that last week.
Give the Texans fans

Speaker 1 something to hear about us glazing their team and their defense. Specifically,

Speaker 1 pretty good Sunday in terms of action. Wow.
Some good games.

Speaker 1 There was a moment in time, I believe it was like maybe 12:30 Chicago time where it was all the double-digit favorites were losing outright.

Speaker 1 And we thought we'd have some chaos. We did have some chaos, but let's start.
Let's dive in. You guys ready to dive in?

Speaker 1 Let's dive right in. By the way, reminder: we have Monday and Wednesday are shows this week.
We will give an extra long Wednesday for people who have to work on Friday.

Speaker 1 You can save yourself something. We'll leave some food out for you.
But let's get in. Chiefs 23, Colts 20.
The Chiefs are still alive. And the Chiefs were so close to being dead.

Speaker 1 This was the Chiefs game that I think we all were expecting in terms of late clutch plays, their defense standing up. They were down 20 to 9

Speaker 1 at the beginning of the fourth quarter. They were down 20 to 17.

Speaker 1 on their own six-yard line with 443 left. But the Chiefs found a way.
Mahomes made some big plays in the second half. He had like 250 yards in the second half passing, and the Chiefs are still alive.

Speaker 1 And the Colts probably feel like they squandered one because they definitely, they had, their offense just completely died in the second half. Completely died.

Speaker 1 They had 12 plays that they ran in the fourth quarter in overtime. Did not gain a first down.

Speaker 3 You remember that stat that we talked about on Friday's show where it was the Chiefs when it was within the last five minutes of regulation when the score was one point? Yep.

Speaker 3 Well, today, Patrick Mahomes turned all that around. He was five for eight in those situations for 79 yards.
Yeah, it was. So he ended up finding Rashi Rice.
He ended up finding Xavier Worthy.

Speaker 3 He beats the Colts for the first time in the regular season. Yep.
So he's collecting all of them.

Speaker 1 It was finally the Chiefs doing what they, all last year, they went 11-0 in one score games. This was their first win in a one-score game this year.
They were 0-5 going into this game.

Speaker 1 They needed this win so, so badly. And it was.
It felt like the old Chiefs in the fact that Mahomes with the ball ball late. Oh, he'll find a way.
And they did.

Speaker 3 And then the Colts, on the other hand, when they had the ball, the last three drives of the game for Daniel Jones of the Colts, Danny Dimes was three for 12.

Speaker 1 The last four drives, they punted.

Speaker 3 No first downs. On the last three, he went three for 12 for 29 yards.

Speaker 3 That was his final 15 attempts. He had four straight three and outs, and Indy got six yards.
on nine plays in that span.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was more the Chiefs defense giving the Chiefs a chance to be in this position because they not only did that in the fourth quarter in the overtime where they completely shut down the Colts' offense, but they also had some huge red zone stops where they forced the Colts to kick field goals.

Speaker 1 And it was like, if you're a Colts fan, you're just sitting there saying, This is a game you should have won, you could have won, you had it in front of you.

Speaker 1 You even had it with the ball up 20 to 17 at the 50-yard line with 549 left. That's two, you know, that's two first downs there, and you're, and you're kicking a field goal to go up six.

Speaker 1 They weren't able to do it. They couldn't put the Chiefs away.
And the Chiefs are all the way back. Not all the way back because they still have, I mean, they're playing a tough Cowboys team.

Speaker 3 They've got the smallest margin for error ever.

Speaker 1 But this would have put them out.

Speaker 3 This would have put them out. But they've got daylight.
That's what the Chiefs have. The Chiefs, they have Daylight.
And it helps when you have a running game. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Like Kareem Hunt had a great game today. Yeah.
And that makes things a lot easier for the Chiefs. Because, yeah, I don't think they have the firepower that they've had in years past.

Speaker 3 But if you're able to effectively run the football, then yeah, Patrick Mahomes can win you a lot of games. They didn't lead, the Chiefs never led today.
No, they just kicked the field goal to win.

Speaker 3 Pretty good.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they kicked the field goal in overtime after the Colts had a possession and didn't gain a first down.

Speaker 1 But yeah, the Chiefs, if you look at their schedule, they had to probably win six out of seven down the stretch. Now they only have to win five out of six.

Speaker 3 That probably feels a little bit better, which is doable.

Speaker 1 And if you had lost this one, you have to win six out of six.

Speaker 3 And Harrison Bucker had a great game today, five for five. I did notice it's My Cause My Cleats this week.
Yeah. He did not wear the anti-human trafficking cleats that he wore last year.
Okay.

Speaker 3 So is he now pro-human trafficking? I don't know. Somebody should ask him.

Speaker 1 What was his cause this time?

Speaker 3 I don't know, but I just know it wasn't the. I just stopped reading when I saw that it wasn't the anti-human trafficking.
So I was like, what's up with that? Yeah.

Speaker 3 Once you put those on, you can't really change it. But yeah, the last several games of the year, here's what the Chiefs have.
They can lose one of these games.

Speaker 3 Cowboys, Texans, Chargers, at Titans, Broncos, at Raiders. That's what they're looking at.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they have three games that they should conceivably win pretty easily, and then they have a lot of games that are going to be tough.

Speaker 3 I think that they can. I think they can, and

Speaker 3 they will.

Speaker 1 Hank, you were rooting for the Colts. No, I mean, I bet the Chiefs

Speaker 1 on our picks, they were never going to lose that game. They should have lost that game.
It felt like a loss the whole time.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 they actually kind of dominated the game. The Colts are frauds.

Speaker 1 The Colts are. Here we go.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Say it with your chest.

Speaker 1 That was their game to lose, and they choked. Yeah, well, the Chiefs.
They lost it like six times. They just seemed to get a field goal, a score, a long drive.
Yeah. Nothing.

Speaker 1 They weren't able to get any yards going.

Speaker 1 Memes telling you to drink water. He sounds like you got a frog in your throat.
That's okay.

Speaker 1 The Chiefs did kind of dominate the game on the stat sheet. They had 494 yards to 255, 33 first downs to 10 for the Colts.
But obviously, you had to pick six at the beginning of the game for Mahomes.

Speaker 1 The Colts had a couple big chunk plays early on. But yeah, this was the Colts could not move the ball.
This offense has been electric, and it was not today.

Speaker 1 And it's a lot of credit to the Chiefs' defense that bowed up. Also, some credit to the refs.

Speaker 1 I don't know. I just like to throw that out there so people get mad.
The Colts got defense got called for seven flags. The Chiefs' defense got zero.

Speaker 3 They also had that touchdown that was taken off the board, though, right? Yeah. On the ear hole face mask thing that they're calling calling out.
But yeah,

Speaker 3 Hank.

Speaker 1 There were a couple of classic Chiefs plays where it was like, oh, no, the Chiefs are fucked. Oh, there's a flag.
Yeah. Hank, what would you say?

Speaker 3 Why are you using the F-word in regards to the Colts? Let's dive into this. Are the Colts frauds?

Speaker 1 If you're not a fraud, this is a game you win. Okay.
Facts or fiction.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, maybe. Yeah.

Speaker 1 No, they were up 20-9 in the fourth quarter. They should have won that game.

Speaker 1 They just needed to get first downs. They didn't, again, it's crazy.
Four drives in overtime in the fourth quarter, zero first downs. I think a couple first downs, you win this game.

Speaker 3 I think it's more like

Speaker 3 all frauds would lose this game, but most teams that aren't frauds would win it.

Speaker 1 Daniel Jones, not a playoff quarterback. Are they frauds? But they also got a big lead against a desperate team in Arrowhead.
That makes them not frauds.

Speaker 1 I get it. They went up 20 to 9.

Speaker 3 We had that caller that said we should stop giving people credit for comebacks.

Speaker 1 It's true. You got down.

Speaker 1 Mahomes got down.

Speaker 1 Regular season is fun.

Speaker 1 It's fun to win games in the regular season and get all hyped, but it's like the playoffs are the only thing that matters, and the Colts are not a team that I would have any confidence in in the playoffs.

Speaker 3 Mahomes got bailed out by his kicker.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but Mahomes, as much as I don't like him, they win these games. And he did have 350 yards passing.

Speaker 1 He finds a way to win. And it was really the Chiefs' defense, though.
They shut down the Colts. I mean,

Speaker 1 Daniel Jones didn't attempt to pass over 20 yards downfield. The Jonathan Taylor, yeah, here it is.
It's on the screen right now. 18 total yards in fourth quarter and overtime for the Colts.

Speaker 1 Jonathan Taylor was shut down.

Speaker 1 I felt like multiple times they were tackling him behind the line of scrimmage. And Shane Steichen is now.
Is it too early for Shane Steichen? Because the Colts are 8-3.

Speaker 1 I think they're still a good team. I don't know.
Frauds would be, you're saying a counteract to people saying the Colts are for real, like could go on a deep run. That's what you're saying.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 You're saying that Colts do not have a chance to win the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 Not a chance. Okay.

Speaker 3 Zero chance. Zero chance.
Off the board.

Speaker 1 Shane Steichen is taking blame for this. He said, we got to do a better job.
I got to be better for the guys.

Speaker 1 I mean, you are 8-3, but you still got to be better for the guys.

Speaker 1 That wasn't his quote, that part.

Speaker 1 He said, there was a lot of stuff that I wanted to get called that I felt good about in the past game, and we just weren't efficient doing it. Feels like he left a lot on the, on the call sheet.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there's a lot of stuff

Speaker 3 I wanted to call on the, why didn't he? Yeah. Does that mean he doesn't trust his quarterback?

Speaker 1 I don't know. That's something you throw out there.

Speaker 3 If you say, like, I had a bunch of plays I wanted to call him, but I wasn't able to call him. To me, that sounds like he's just thinking about those plays.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 Like, if that's what he's saying to the, to the media after the game. He's just going to go to sleep tonight.
He's like the opposite of Sean McFay.

Speaker 3 He's going to be thinking about all the plays he didn't call.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Some of the best plays I've ever called are the ones I didn't call. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Except the opposite. Except they were bad because I didn't call them.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I should have called him.

Speaker 3 I didn't trust in Danny Jones.

Speaker 1 You think he just had one he was looking at all game, being like, this one's going to be sick, and he just never got to it.

Speaker 3 Maybe he just doesn't have the balls for it. I don't know.

Speaker 1 I mean, maybe this is because they did, again, they did a pretty good job of bottling up Jonathan Taylor, who has been absolutely killing teams.

Speaker 1 So maybe

Speaker 1 that's what

Speaker 1 put him in a bad spot. Jonathan Taylor only had 58 yards, 3.6 yards per rush.
Yeah, I really came away being like the Chiefs defense is what's because that's the recipe.

Speaker 1 You have Mahomes who can make big plays and the Chiefs defense showed that they can keep them in the game when things look a little clunky, which it did at times.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I wouldn't count the Colts as being frauds. Because I don't think...
Has there any yeah have you heard anybody?

Speaker 1 Are they on fraud watch? I don't know because I don't think

Speaker 1 have you heard anybody say like I think the Colts are going to win the Super Bowl to be frauds you have to be told that you're going going to win the Super Bowl or be like the one seed I guess they were going into today even though the Broncos were or no the Colts were because they beat the Broncos

Speaker 3 yeah I never really thought of them as winning the Super Bowl so I then I therefore don't think of them as frauds if that makes sense you know what since they were not looking at them at the top of the playoffs since they were the one seed this week I do give Hank permission to call them frauds that's fair because they occupied that top spot like the Jags did a couple years ago remember that yep and they we can say that they were frauds at that point yeah they're fraudulent in in one seed.

Speaker 3 The Colts were fraudulent in one seeds, but now I think they're no longer frauds.

Speaker 1 Yeah, if they're a three or four seed, that's they're right where they should be. Now,

Speaker 1 the AFC South is,

Speaker 1 we, I, I said that stuff two weeks ago, and uh, it's, it's not a foregone conclusion. I think the Colts should conceivably still win it, but the Jags are seven and four.

Speaker 1 They're one game back, and the Texans are, which we will talk about later, are looking absolutely unstoppable defensively. And the Jags and Colts play two games against each other down the stretch.

Speaker 1 So if the Jags can somehow beat the Colts twice, which I'm not going to say they will because

Speaker 1 Trevor Lawrence is addicted to throwing interceptions.

Speaker 3 He's hilarious.

Speaker 1 He is addicted to throwing interceptions. But that is all ahead of them.
The Jaguars have everything ahead of them where they can kind of control their own destiny down the stretch.

Speaker 3 Yeah, we're going to, in two weeks from now, we're going to look at this and we'll know if the Colts are going to be fraudulent or not. Fraudulent

Speaker 3 division leaders.

Speaker 1 And actually, Hank, you know what it comes down to is that if the Jaguars had just not blown that 19-point lead to the Texans, they would be sitting in a very different place right now because they would have had the season series against the Texans.

Speaker 1 Instead, they split it and they would have been 8-3.

Speaker 1 That was a blown opportunity. Big time blown opportunity.
Okay, Max, I know that you just watched the Eagles Cowboys. I do want you to participate here and there.

Speaker 1 How are you feeling now that it's been like 10 minutes?

Speaker 1 Not great. It's too early to talk about the 4 o'clock games.
Yeah, no, I'm not talking about the 4 o'clock games. I'm saying like other games, will you be able to participate here and there?

Speaker 1 Or are you just in such a funk?

Speaker 1 I don't have anything to say about this game.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 1 You see the line of questioning, though. I had the Chiefs.
I'm happy the Chiefs won.

Speaker 1 That's about all I got.

Speaker 3 You had the Chiefs?

Speaker 1 I bet on the Chiefs.

Speaker 3 Did they cover?

Speaker 1 I had them live, Moneyline. Oh, nice.

Speaker 1 Smart. Yeah.
They were going to win this game. Hank was doing that thing where he just kept on saying they're going to win this game.
Tune into the Yak case race

Speaker 1 on Wednesday because Hank just said over and over the Bills were going to win that game against the Texans over and over and over.

Speaker 3 There was that bullshit flag at the very end. I hated that flag.
He just kept on saying it.

Speaker 1 He's like, they're going to win this game. They're going to win this game.
It's the Bills. It's the Bills.

Speaker 1 Putting on your heavy sarcasm.

Speaker 1 Okay, next game. Probably the most fun fun game.
Absolutely the most fun game. Lions 34, Giants 27.

Speaker 1 I want to start with Jameis, but I think that we can't just because Jameer Gibbs is so fucking good, and he had 219 yards rushing, 45 yards receiving, 264 total yards, three total touchdowns.

Speaker 1 He was their entire offense on a day that the Lions were not at their best and were taken to the brink overtime against a 2-9, now 2-10 Giants team.

Speaker 1 We said it a few weeks ago that he might be the the best running back. And obviously, there's people who push back with Jonathan Taylor.
And this,

Speaker 1 I think I'm fine with just saying Jameer Gibbs is the best running back because when he gets into open field, there's just no, he looks like he's making other NFL players look slow.

Speaker 3 He's so fast. And to do that on the very first play of overtime, when both teams get a little bit of a break, the defense has caught their breath a little bit.

Speaker 1 69 yards to the house.

Speaker 3 Hey, he's like, I'm just going to go out there and just be faster than everybody that you have on your team. It was

Speaker 3 demoralizing for the Giants. Credit to the Giants for hanging in there.
Not for hanging in there, for building a lead. Yes.

Speaker 3 You can chalk this up under the most recent example of the Giants to blow a 10-point lead, which they've done five times this season.

Speaker 3 But to me, it's more than

Speaker 1 first out.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it's Gibbs on first down. Gibbs on first down.

Speaker 1 Gibbs on first touchdown.

Speaker 3 But to me, it's more like credit to the Giants for competing. And then also credit to Jameer Gibbs for just doing what we all expected Jameer Gibbs to do, which is blow our minds.
So

Speaker 3 I keep keep saying this, and every week I keep getting more vindicated for the fact that Brian Daybull should be court-martialed for starting Russell Wilson.

Speaker 3 It made no sense at the time. It makes even less sense now.

Speaker 3 Jameis Winston, he's at 20.3 yards per completion.

Speaker 3 That's what he had today against the Lions. That's the highest in the NFL all season.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Jackson Darts

Speaker 3 against the Broncos, where he had 18.9 yards per completion, was the the second highest total in the NFL all season. Both guys that started the season behind Russell Wilson.

Speaker 3 The game was tied until the Giants sent Russell Wilson out to midfield as the captain with his helmet on to call the coin toss. And from that point, everything fell apart.

Speaker 1 But they did win the coin toss. Not everything fell apart.
But they did win the coin toss.

Speaker 3 At what cost? Yeah.

Speaker 1 They won the coin toss.

Speaker 1 He did his job. I guess his job was to go out and win the coin toss.
He won the coin toss. This was, though, the most Jameis Winston game possible.
He was so electric.

Speaker 1 He was 18 for 36 for 366 yards, 13.6 air yards per attempt. So he's just slinging it.

Speaker 1 Two touchdowns, one interception, and then one catch, 33 yards, and a touchdown, which was one of the greatest plays I've ever seen in my entire life.

Speaker 1 And I know that that sounds hyperbolic, and I know we're very big Jameis fans. That play was dead 100 million times.
Jameis caught it, shook off the defender.

Speaker 3 A little spin move.

Speaker 1 Was fucking awesome. He is so much fun to watch.
Like at minimum, this should prove that Jameis Winston should be a starting quarterback in the NFL.

Speaker 1 There are so many bad games that we watch and bad quarterback play that we watch. Jameis Winston is not.
Yes, sometimes he throws interceptions. Yes, sometimes he makes mistakes.

Speaker 1 He is so much fun and he takes shots. Also, by the way, shout out Jameis for one of the like best timed celebrations right into the camera after that.

Speaker 3 Right into the camera and all his teammates getting up right next to him and doing the choreograph with him at the same time. Jameis keeps his receivers happy, too, because

Speaker 3 in a season like this where things, you know, nothing's really going well for the New York Giants, to have the team bought in and have fun, that's what you get when you have Jameis Winston on your team.

Speaker 3 Yes. You get a guy that keeps people engaged before the game.

Speaker 3 We're inside, but we're outside.

Speaker 1 We're inside, but we're outside. Amen.

Speaker 1 Amen.

Speaker 3 Jameis said it. And I think, you know, this was a very entertaining game.
I think the better team ended up winning.

Speaker 1 How many teams

Speaker 1 would be better if Jameis Winson was their starting quarterback?

Speaker 1 I'm going to list them. I'm going to list the candidates.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to put in, obviously, ones that have obvious quarterbacks or guys that they drafted high that they're working on, whatever it may be. Dolphins? Yes.

Speaker 1 Jets?

Speaker 3 Dude, Tyreek and Jameis? Yes. Yes.

Speaker 3 Browns?

Speaker 3 Jury's out on Shadori.

Speaker 1 Browns, yes. I'm going to say yes.

Speaker 1 Steelers?

Speaker 3 Yes.

Speaker 1 That's four.

Speaker 1 Titans, well, no, we give Cam Ward a year or two. Raiders? Yes.

Speaker 3 That's five.

Speaker 1 Let's see. Cardinals.
Giants, we have six.

Speaker 3 Cardinals.

Speaker 1 Vikings, definitely yes. Seven.
Cardinals. Or no, wait.
Hold on. I'm just going in order.
Seven.

Speaker 1 Let's say Saints. We should probably give Tyler Shuck a little.
So Cardinals, that would be eight. Eight teams.
Eight teams would be better if Jameis Jameis Winston was their starting quarterback.

Speaker 1 Falcons?

Speaker 1 Well, yeah, I don't count it. Well, if you want to say instead of Michael Pennix, yeah.
So nine.

Speaker 3 I think so. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He's awesome. Yeah, he's great.
And he takes shots. He actually pushed half of the time when you have a backup quarterback come in, they just dink and dunk.

Speaker 1 He pushes the ball downfield. He's fearless.
And he had the Lions in absolute hell. The Lions gave up 25 first downs.
I mean, I know they're very injured

Speaker 1 and the Lions defense is like in a tough spot.

Speaker 1 They did get two big fourth down stops to end the game and also when Mike Kafka went for it on fourth and goal on the six-yard line with 259 left up 27-24, which I know there's some people who probably don't like it.

Speaker 1 I love that move. Oh, I like it too.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because, yes, they could go up six, but

Speaker 1 the Giants have nothing to play for. I think they got eliminated from, I think they're officially eliminated.
I think they're the first team eliminated from the playoffs today.

Speaker 1 They have nothing to play for. You're fourth and six.
Go for it. Try to beat the Lions in Detroit.
Yeah, it didn't work out. But I love the fact that an interim head coach is saying, yeah,

Speaker 1 we can be honest with the situation here. It's bad.
Might as well try to go win a game.

Speaker 3 I don't really understand what winning this game, like if you had kicked that field goal and you would have gone up, what?

Speaker 3 That would have been six or seven?

Speaker 1 No, they would have gone up six.

Speaker 3 So they would have had to score a touchdown at that point to win.

Speaker 3 Let's just say they drive back and they score a touchdown, you you lose. How dumb do you feel about kicking that field goal? You feel really dumb.
Right.

Speaker 3 If they don't, you get a win that you're going to forget about in three weeks, anyways. Yeah, who cares? You're going to be eliminated anyways.
I don't hate it at all.

Speaker 1 Now, the Giants said,

Speaker 3 we want to score as many points as possible.

Speaker 3 That's what you should be trying to do. Yeah.
That's the name of the game.

Speaker 1 He said it isn't the same old story as the other close games Giants have lost this season. Now,

Speaker 1 it isn't, but it is. The Giants now have set an NFL record with their fifth loss in a game where they held a double-digit lead.

Speaker 3 But this was also the first time they had a first-quarter double-digit lead in five years. Okay.

Speaker 1 Since Joe Jones, so there's you got to look at the good stuff.

Speaker 3 Look at that. The start of the game was just as good as the end of the game was bad.

Speaker 3 They're now two and five this year if they have a double-digit lead at any point in the game.

Speaker 1 Here's someone who might not have liked it. I think this is Malik Neighbor's Twitter account.
He's not verified. Is it WyGuard 13?

Speaker 1 Is that his actual Twitter? That sounds like a receiver's. And

Speaker 1 he has 25,000.

Speaker 1 Where is it? White guard 13. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I think it is. So he said, sometimes I think they'd be making us lose on purpose because there's no way, bro, you throw the ball instead of running it to make them burn two timeouts.

Speaker 1 Then you don't kick the field goal. Then they have to go down and score football.
Common sense, am I missing something? He deleted that. So he might not have liked it.

Speaker 1 Now, the throwing the ball instead of running it and trying to run clock, that might be something that Mike Kafka can work on.

Speaker 1 But going forward on fourth and sixth, when you have two wins and you're you're about to be eliminated from the playoffs, why not?

Speaker 3 Yeah, he said, am I missing something? And I think he was missing something.

Speaker 1 I think he's missing the fact that the Giants only have two wins.

Speaker 3 Yeah, he's missing that part. But hopefully people educated him on that.

Speaker 3 Also, I like the fact that he's sitting at home watching the games like on the couch, like getting into it and getting angry about it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I like that.

Speaker 1 And if you're a Giants fan, this was... A perfect game in the fact that

Speaker 1 you don't want to win this game, right? No. But you did want to see a defense outside of tackling Jameer Gibbs.
The pass rush was there.

Speaker 1 They were harassing Jared Goff, getting him off his spot all day long. So that part, maybe there's something good to look forward to.

Speaker 1 I guess if you're a Giants fan, nothing really matters if Jackson Dart isn't playing.

Speaker 3 Well, yeah, and you want Shane Bowen to get fired, but you actually don't want him to get fired until after this year.

Speaker 1 Wait, who?

Speaker 3 Their defense coordinator.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. Yeah.
You want that guy gone?

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. As long as...
They're going to clean everyone out. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Just know that he won't be back next year.

Speaker 3 That should make you happy. You're not going to like it during the games when you're like, how does this guy still have a job? But just trust me, this is going to be good for you in the long term.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I mean, this is a good loss for the Giants, even though they could have won it.
And Jameis is electric.

Speaker 1 It was so much fun. It was so fun.
Also, are you a little scared of Jameis? Next week? Yeah, a little bit. Yeah, you're playing Monday Night Football against Jameis.

Speaker 3 Huge, huge story coming out of this game today. They had their annual Corgi race at halftime.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 3 The Corgi race, and Grizzly, the corgi, was going for three straight, making a dynasty.

Speaker 3 It was a photo finish. If you look up the race, it's the closest race

Speaker 1 I've ever seen.

Speaker 3 They ended up giving it to Grizzly.

Speaker 1 Max is smiling again.

Speaker 3 What's going on? Look at how Zach spelled coordinator.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Spell it out loud.

Speaker 1 O-U-U-A-A-R-R-D-E-N-T-A-T-O-R. Talk us through that, Zach.

Speaker 1 Coordinator.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like quadratic. I hear it.
Yeah. Coordinator.
Coordinator. Quadrator.
Quarter. Coordinator.
Coordinator. Coordinator.

Speaker 3 Coordinator. Coordinator.
I'm the coordinator. Wow.

Speaker 1 We all miss sometimes. Yeah, we all miss.

Speaker 1 There's no shit. That's on me.
I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
I'm sorry. Yeah.
Hey, look, you made Max smile. You did.
For the first time since the Eagles Cowboys game.

Speaker 3 That's okay. Max hates dogs.
He doesn't

Speaker 3 want us talking about the Corgis.

Speaker 1 Can we see it?

Speaker 3 Can we see the Corgis? Yeah, watch the photo finish of this because Grizzly was going for three straight, would have been a record. And then there was

Speaker 3 a photo finish. I love Corgi race.
There's a 40-yard dash for these Corgi's. Corgi's, and I hand-timed it at about like four and a half seconds.
So this is like NFL speed here.

Speaker 1 Could you get us a better angle, Zach?

Speaker 1 You have us where the snipers sit.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 1 Still not a great angle. Either way, I'm pumped for what was his name? Grizzly.
Grizzly. Grizzly, the...

Speaker 3 They said, you don't walk Grizzly. Grizzly walks Grizzly.
Oh, there we go.

Speaker 3 So Grizzly was on the inside track here, and they did a pause on the Jumbotron Jumbotron to show that Grizzly crossed the line by a nose.

Speaker 1 Grizzly, the darker dog.

Speaker 3 The darker dog is Grizzly.

Speaker 3 But when you watch it on the extreme close-up angle that they have, it looks to me like Helen crossed the goal line barely before Grizzly, but then Grizzly crossed into the blue of the end zone from the goal line barely before Helen.

Speaker 3 So we have a...

Speaker 1 So we're going to

Speaker 1 look at the game.

Speaker 1 This should have been a halftime for Thanksgiving show. I agree.
Like,

Speaker 1 who's doing the halftime show this Thanksgiving? I would rather watch Corgi's race. I'd rather have all types of waiting for you.
Is it Daddy Yankee?

Speaker 1 Oh, man, is that close?

Speaker 3 Look at that. So to me,

Speaker 3 Helen crosses the white stripe first. How do they call it?

Speaker 1 Are they calling it the white stripe? No,

Speaker 3 see, they called it the blue line, and then Grizzly won. They gave Grizzly, this is the Chiefs.
It's basically Patrick Mahomes. Gets what he wants.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because Helen definitely beat him to the goal line. Beat him to the goal line, right? Hmm.

Speaker 3 And then as they inch forward, that's where Grizzly separates himself. That's electric.

Speaker 1 I love it. Pretty more corgi racing.
Just something, a little food for thought. Maybe we'd play a little whose line is it anyway? Whose line is it anyway?

Speaker 1 The Packers and the Lions are playing at noon on Thanksgiving. I'm going to guess

Speaker 1 into, well, it's Thanksgiving.

Speaker 1 You got that. You had that as you were saying it.

Speaker 1 Lions minus two and a half.

Speaker 3 I think it's Lions

Speaker 1 three.

Speaker 1 It is the

Speaker 1 minus three.

Speaker 1 Oh, no. So that's plus 100.
So that's two and a half.

Speaker 1 I brought it up because the Packer or the Lions had 77 snaps on defense today. It's a lot of snaps.
They played overtime. The Packers didn't even have to play the fourth quarter because of nine.

Speaker 1 Just something to think. Just something to think about.
That feels like a quick turnaround.

Speaker 1 I know that it's, I know they play Thursday night football every single week, but it's Thursday afternoon football. And I think those hours matter.

Speaker 3 I love it when the Thanksgiving games mean something.

Speaker 3 I really do.

Speaker 1 I mean, Cowboys Chiefs means a lot. Shitload.
Yep. Ravens-Bengals means a lot to the Ravens.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there's going to be some good football, or at least some consequential football on Thanksgiving.

Speaker 1 Is Texas and Texas and M playing Thursday night, too? Remember they used to play? Yeah, Thursday night, I think. Thanksgiving? Because then Thursday or Friday.

Speaker 1 That would be perfect because then we could just, If the Bengals Ravens,

Speaker 1 they are not Friday. They're not playing Thursday night.
That sucks. That would have been sick.
That would have been a lot of fun.

Speaker 3 It is good, though, to have consequential games on Navy's playing on Thanksgiving. It gives you a big reason if you need to duck away from the family.

Speaker 3 Be like, yeah, this game's actually really important. I have to watch it.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 There'll be a college basketball tournament going on, too, I'm sure.

Speaker 1 In on all of it. So,

Speaker 1 Jameer Gibbs, the last thing I have on him, he is

Speaker 1 his 44th touchdown in the NFL.

Speaker 1 That is second all-time, fastest amount,

Speaker 1 44 touchdowns, second all-time

Speaker 1 total of touchdowns before turning the age of 24. The person who has the most is Barry Sanders at 47.
So he should break it. His birthday's not till March.

Speaker 1 Pretty crazy that they're going to have those two guys at the top, the Lions. Pretty cool.

Speaker 3 Do you think that some coaches, when they coach against Dan Campbell, are more likely to be aggressive on fourth down? Yes. Because they secretly want to impress him.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they just want to be like, look, I know what I'm doing too, bro.

Speaker 3 I'm doing it too. I'm part of the club.
Hey, do you like me, Dan?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 We should chill. Get a beer sometime, buddy.
Yeah, I know ball.

Speaker 1 You know ball. We're just ball knowers.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 Two guys hanging out. Two alpha males competing against each other.
Coaching football.

Speaker 1 Look at that.

Speaker 1 Who could have thought? The two of us. Okay, next game.
The Bears, 31. The Steelers, 28.
The Chicago Bears are 8-3.

Speaker 1 People are mad about the 8-3 Chicago Bears. Talk to your family about the 8-3 Chicago Bears.
This was

Speaker 1 not the. So it started with Aaron Rodgers flipping off cameramen, who are hardworking cameramen.
Shout out to camera people at Soldier Field.

Speaker 3 But that was with his right middle finger.

Speaker 1 It was his right middle finger. So people were like, well, it's inconclusive if he's playing.

Speaker 1 Was that not the most Aaron Rodgers shit ever? The guy broke his wrist like six days ago, and we did an entire week of Willie or Willie not play. He has a fucking broken hand.

Speaker 3 Now, was he flipping off the camera or was he flipping off the cameraman? I don't know.

Speaker 1 But either way, disgusting, jail. But I mean, that is the most Aaron Rodgers thing possible to be like, let's do headlines an entire week of my broken wrist.
Like, are we going to do this every week?

Speaker 1 Because I assume if you have a broken wrist, you're just not going to play quarterback.

Speaker 3 Well, there's a very funny update to the broken wrist that came out on Saturday. Of course.

Speaker 3 I think it was Schefter saying, it's unclear whether or not he's going to play, but just know that if it was up to Aaron Rodgers, he would try to play through it.

Speaker 3 That, to me, it felt like Aaron found out from the coaches, like, hey, you're not playing. And he was like, yeah, you're right, I'm not.
But I just want to tell, I'm going to let Adam Schafter know.

Speaker 3 And that I would rather play.

Speaker 1 And I think Mike Tomlin even said something like, we tried everything we could. We really wanted.
He really wanted to play. Just so extra.
Either way, this game.

Speaker 1 So Mason Rudolph played.

Speaker 1 Obviously, playing a backup quarterback is beneficial.

Speaker 1 There's a list that's going around. Can you find it for me of the last six? I know, memes, you've seen this list.
You love this list.

Speaker 1 The last six games the Bears, the quarterbacks, the Bears have faced because I think it's like Snoop Huntley.

Speaker 1 Let's see. We'll find it.
Either way, the Bears also were down pretty much everyone on defense. We had all three of our starting linebackers out.
We then lost two linebackers in the game.

Speaker 1 We've had the same.

Speaker 1 I don't really count, like, you can't count Jalen Johnson and Kyler Gordon because they they haven't played all season but we you know i mean the bears were the defense is tough so we played mason rudolph jarthy jackson dart joe flacco tyler huntley spencer rattler don't really care because that right there was five and one either way the bears defense was very hurt mason rudoff not as good as aaron rodgers kale williams played well except for the fumble was bad Very bad.

Speaker 1 Have to know. That was also TJ Watt's 115th sack.
He passed J.J. Watt.
J.J. Watt was on the call that passing it in the torch moment.
Passing of the torch.

Speaker 3 I'm looking at that list of quarterbacks. I see a ton of five-star college recruits.

Speaker 1 Yeah, first-round picks.

Speaker 3 Yeah, for some first-round picks, but more, like even earlier than that, like some ultimate five-star top five guys in the country when they're coming out of high school. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I mean, listen, the Bears are eight and three.
It's fun. I'm having fun.
This game was...

Speaker 1 The defense did their best to hold it. Nashon Wright just picks off a ball every single week, it feels like.

Speaker 3 That was a pretty incredible pick that he had. Just stuck stuck his left arm up, stuck to his wrist, got two feet down.
That was pretty cool to see.

Speaker 1 And the Steelers were able to move the ball. Like, Mason Rudolph had a 95-yard touchdown drive.

Speaker 1 You could tell there were moments where it was like, oh, there's no one in the second level to tackle here because every run's five yards.

Speaker 1 I do think that fake tush push, while an incredible play, was illegal because CBS just did a terrible job and just didn't have the game on. How can he get that?

Speaker 1 And so he was running down the sideline.

Speaker 3 I feel like this happens a lot in like low-level Division II college basketball. Yeah.
But I never see it in the NFL. In the NFL, punishable by death.

Speaker 1 It was crazy.

Speaker 3 It was crazy. It was bad.

Speaker 3 I thought that they kind of messed up actually having Mason Rudolph run a QB sneak for zero yards. Mason Rudolph should not be trying to.

Speaker 3 And then Tomlins' explanation behind it was, I do it again. Because hesitation kills more than aggression.

Speaker 3 You don't have to hesitate.

Speaker 3 You can make the correct decision immediately instead of overthinking whether or not to run Mason Rudolph. Yeah, the Bears are good.
The Bears are a good team.

Speaker 3 I don't think that there's anybody out there being like Bears Super Bowl. So anyone that's calling the Bears a fraud, I would disagree with that.
Same I would disagree with the Colts assessment.

Speaker 3 I think the Bears are just, they're a good football team. Listen, there are some.
People need to recognize that.

Speaker 1 There are some years where the bounces go your way. That is what it feels like right now for the Bears.
So it's like strapping, enjoy the fuck out of this ride. 8-3 is awesome.

Speaker 1 It would be, I'm now at the point where I will be very disappointed if the Bears don't make the playoffs.

Speaker 1 Because if you're eight and three and you don't make the playoffs, that's that's really, really.

Speaker 3 That's a scary zone to be in. That's a scary zone to be in.

Speaker 1 I have to be honest with it. Like, eight and three,

Speaker 1 you got to find a way to get to the playoffs.

Speaker 3 You're out in deep water right now, and there's a chance that you can make a swim for that island. Yep.

Speaker 3 But if you don't, now it's like there's more at stake than when you were just splashing around in the kiddie pools.

Speaker 1 I think it's just also there's like it's a combination of the Bears always

Speaker 1 being bad a lot of the times, and then kind of not wanting to believe that it could be real. And there's very real parts of it.
One, Ben Johnson is very, very real.

Speaker 1 Caleb Williams is playing, has taken steps forward this year versus last year. You can see him in an offense that has a little continuity and a good coach.
He had three touchdowns today.

Speaker 1 He missed a couple guys. Like, it wasn't a perfect game, but, and DJ Moore was awesome.
And it was also a day where the run game was not what it has been recently.

Speaker 1 And then Dennis Allen's a hell of a defensive coach because this team has so many starters out and he's finding a way to make it work. Montez Sweat came up big.

Speaker 1 Brisker with the deflection at the end of the game was huge. And shout out Ryan Poles because his offensive, his left tackle pick from this past year, Ozzie Trapillo, came in, gave up one pressure.

Speaker 1 That was a point of weakness. We lost Theo Benedict.
So we're on our third left tackle. Ozzy Trapillo looked pretty good.

Speaker 3 We got to find out. One test.

Speaker 1 He was going up against,

Speaker 1 I think he was going up against Nick Herberick.

Speaker 3 We got to find out what happened after that Lions game. What happened after week two? The gateway.

Speaker 3 The gateway open. I need some boots on the ground inside Hallis Hall to tell me all the weird new shit that Ben Johnson did.

Speaker 3 Any players-only meetings that were had after that game because the Bears have been a different team.

Speaker 1 I just think he's a really good coach, and

Speaker 1 he gets guys to believe, and even if they're not a

Speaker 1 top echelon team right now, which I'm not going to say they are, he gets guys to believe that every single week they can go into a game and he's going to put them in a place to win the game.

Speaker 1 What echelon are they? They are, I don't know, whatever the second tier is.

Speaker 1 I think they're a second tier, like, but I'm enjoying the fuck out of it, and I don't, like, it would be crazy for me to say I think the Bears can win four playoff games and win a Super Bowl when

Speaker 1 we're winning games by the thinnest of margins.

Speaker 1 But I also think the Bears can compete with anyone at this point, and they've got a belief that they are not going to blink when those tough moments come.

Speaker 1 Max, did you ever think when this schedule came out that Black Friday after Thanksgiving would be 8-3 Bears versus 8-3 Eagles? No, it's a big game. It's a big game.
It's a huge game. I'll be

Speaker 1 now looking at the schedule or our record.

Speaker 1 We got to worry about ourselves right now. Okay.

Speaker 3 So, big cat, this is bad for you that the Eagles lost today.

Speaker 1 Oh, so bad.

Speaker 1 And the Bears are off a win.

Speaker 3 You had to be rooting so hard for the Eagles.

Speaker 1 I was asked on my fantasy corner this morning if I remained a 6 out of 10. And I was like, to be honest, I've been walking around it at like a nine and a half on the street, just like fist random.

Speaker 1 I went and did something with the Lost Boys on Saturday. There was a brunch in the West Loop.
I was just fist bumping people coming in and out of the bar, just being like, Bears,

Speaker 1 let's get to 8-3. It was a 9.5, easily.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I mean,

Speaker 3 this is a very exciting time for Bears fans. It's crazy.
And like, the Bears, they're probably going to make the playoffs. I would be shocked.

Speaker 3 I'd be surprised if they didn't make the playoffs.

Speaker 1 I'd be very upset if they didn't.

Speaker 3 And then it's all about who you get to play in the first round. The Bears could win a playoff game this year.

Speaker 1 I'm excited to see how we play against the Eagles because this is going to be a huge game. And the Eagles are obviously, even though they just lost to the Cowboys, the Eagles' defense is still elite.

Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 1 how does our offense look against an elite defense versus some of the defenses that we've been playing that have not been elite? I mean, there's also a huge test, huge test on Black Friday.

Speaker 1 I'm excited for the opportunity.

Speaker 3 You should want to win the division, too. The division is

Speaker 3 definitely yours. If you want want it.
No. If you want it.

Speaker 1 Do you want it?

Speaker 1 Yeah, the season comes down to those. We have two games against the Packers.
Yeah. Packers in a game against the Lions.

Speaker 1 It still is probably going to, everything's going to boil down to the Niners' game is going to be the biggest swing game possible. But yeah, I want the fucking division.

Speaker 1 I did like, there was one Packers fan who was like, talk to me tomorrow when it was this morning. He was like, we'll wait like five hours to see the Bears not in first anymore.
Guess what?

Speaker 1 Another week, we're still in first.

Speaker 1 Happened. What are you going to do about it? Nothing.
Can't do anything about it right now.

Speaker 1 Talk to your people about the 8-3 Chicago.

Speaker 3 You know what? There might be a moment on Thursday, if the Packers win, they would momentarily overtake the Bears. They would.

Speaker 3 They would have 24 hours, and then the Bears have 24 hours to respond to take the division back. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And we're never going to give it back.

Speaker 3 Just don't give it back.

Speaker 1 Just don't give it back. Who said that?

Speaker 1 Who said that?

Speaker 3 Ryan Pauls. We're going to take the division.

Speaker 1 They said we're going to take the North and not give it back.

Speaker 3 Then just don't give it back. It's nine-tenths of of the law.

Speaker 1 How do we still do press conferences like that?

Speaker 1 And I'm not even just talking about Ryan Paul's because I think Ryan Paul's this offensive line has been worlds better, and he's done a lot of nice things.

Speaker 1 Like Nashon Wright is a guy who's stepped up and he wouldn't have started this year if we were healthy. But you just got to know

Speaker 1 when you're doing a press conference to just not say shit like that that can be thrown back in your face. Yeah.

Speaker 3 You can't do that. I have a question for you, Big Cat.
Yeah. Is Caleb Williams nicknamed the Ice Man?

Speaker 1 So there was a kid who had the Ice Man.

Speaker 3 The Ice Man.

Speaker 1 The Ice Man. Maybe it is, because I saw someone else write it.

Speaker 1 I feel like there's other Ice Man.

Speaker 3 There's a lot of other Ice Man. Right.

Speaker 1 And also.

Speaker 3 Pritzker's not going to like that.

Speaker 1 Caleb Williams, like, Caleb is a name that is not.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 That's funny. Yeah, the Ice Man.
Pritzker. Well, he, yeah, he's.

Speaker 3 He's going to break out the salt trucks.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's going to blow the horn.

Speaker 1 His name's Caleb. Yeah.
I feel like when you have a unique name like that, you don't really need a nickname.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I mean, it's tough to just put a nickname on a guy that doesn't have a ready-made nickname. You just call him by his number.

Speaker 1 I kind of like the Iceman, though. K.W.
Right Dead, probably.

Speaker 3 K. Will?

Speaker 1 No. Er.
C-Dub.

Speaker 3 C-Dub?

Speaker 1 Yeah, watch him on the C-Dub. C?

Speaker 1 C-Dub 18.

Speaker 1 Yeah, not everyone needs a nickname. He could just be Caleb Williams.

Speaker 3 He just could be. It's like when Che tried to call Jane Daniels the Warthog last year.

Speaker 1 Yeah, even some of the, yeah, some of these guys, like, you remember how Peyton Manning wanted to be called the the sheriff, the sheriff.

Speaker 3 That was so weird.

Speaker 1 It's like, no, Gruden made that up. Oh, yeah, Gruden made that up.
Yeah, but I mean, his name's got the sheriff. His name's Peyton Manning.
It's just, it is what it is.

Speaker 3 The problem with Gruden is he's a serial, he's a serial nickname guy. He just gives out nicknames to everybody that he meets.

Speaker 1 Actually, now that I'm thinking about it, I feel like cornerbacks is the least nicknamed position

Speaker 3 in sports. Jake the Snake.

Speaker 1 There's just not a lot of them. Drake, Drake, May.
May.

Speaker 3 I hate that nickname.

Speaker 1 I hate it. Schedule.

Speaker 3 Yeah, the schedule.

Speaker 1 That's the nickname.

Speaker 1 Mr. 2008.
Jalen Hurst doesn't have a nickname, does he?

Speaker 1 Fred Smoot calls Jaden Daniels Jedi 5.

Speaker 3 Jedi 5? Yeah,

Speaker 1 RG3. RG3, but that's...

Speaker 3 His initials, kind of. Yeah, that's his initials.

Speaker 1 But, I mean, that's... But I'm just thinking, I never really thought about it.

Speaker 3 RG3 is actually Rex Grossman III. That's what we say.

Speaker 1 But there's not a lot of nicknames out there for quarterbacks. Yeah.
Maddie Ice.

Speaker 3 Matty Ice. Yeah, I could call him.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Cam Superman. Broadway Joe Nama.
Broadway Joe. Broadway Joe.

Speaker 3 Mr. Unlimited.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Teddy Two Gloves. Teddy Two Gloves.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it's really about

Speaker 3 Jeff. Just say their name.
Yeah, just say their name.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 A great wide receiver or a great defensive player would be more likely to have it.

Speaker 1 Right, or a basketball player. There's just, yeah.
You just say their name when they're a quarterback. Yep.

Speaker 3 But the Ice Man.

Speaker 1 The Iceman.

Speaker 3 You could probably make some six shirts with the Ice Man on it.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 The Iceman. The Iceman cometh.

Speaker 1 He led a touchdown drive in every single quarter.

Speaker 1 And I will say this.

Speaker 1 I've been saying that the biggest issue for the Bears offensively right now has been just too many times having nice drives that end in three points.

Speaker 1 They were three for three in the red zone with touchdowns. And I still think there's a game coming where everything just really explodes and everything clicks.

Speaker 1 And Colson Loveland, I fucking love that guy. He just, every time he catches the ball, he wants to get more yards.

Speaker 3 You do his cheering the boys on. Like, maybe one of the emotional leaders of the team, or at least he thinks he might be, is, is Cairo.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Cairo has some swag.

Speaker 3 Cairo's just been letting it rip. Yeah.
Cairo's been cheering.

Speaker 1 Well, every game has basically come down to Cairo. So he needs, he's a very important piece.

Speaker 3 Is Cairo, like if Cairo was having a bad year, what would your record be at this point?

Speaker 1 Ooh. Definitely a couple more losses.

Speaker 3 Yeah, Ben Johnson, whatever he's done with Cairo, great job.

Speaker 1 He believed in Cairo because I have not always been a believer in Cairo.

Speaker 3 And Jake Moody was nipping at his heels for a little bit. He says, I'm going back to Cairo.

Speaker 1 Yep. Jake Moody's now your guy.

Speaker 3 He is my guy. Yeah.
But I hope he starts to stink again for us.

Speaker 1 Real quick about the Steelers.

Speaker 1 I feel like Steelers fans are as down as possible just because, not because the Bears beat him, but because the Ravens won as well.

Speaker 1 And in a matter of six weeks, the Ravens are now top the AFC North again.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 3 It was mostly because everybody told them that that was going to happen. And then it happened

Speaker 1 in record time.

Speaker 3 Exactly according to plan. Right.
And so now they're feeling, yeah, they're feeling bad about everything right now.

Speaker 1 And I don't really know what the fix would be because, again, I don't know how Rogers, like, if he didn't play today, he's not going to play, right?

Speaker 1 Until his wrist is fixed.

Speaker 3 Yeah, how much better is it going to get in week two?

Speaker 1 It's still going to be broken. That was the whole point of this whole like song and dance.
Like, you have a broken wrist. It is what it is.

Speaker 3 Drink your milk, Aaron.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's not good for the Steelers right now, it feels like. I think Jerry...

Speaker 1 He got up for this game. He waited in the parking lot for an hour for me this morning because I pulled in and he was, his car is so tinted, I didn't even know if he was in it.

Speaker 1 But then he pulled down the window. He was like, what's up, bitch? He said he would wait.
He was waiting for an hour.

Speaker 3 Did he videotape it? No.

Speaker 3 Just a little guy's. Was he in his parking spot? Yeah, he was in his parking spot.

Speaker 1 Okay, the one I parked.

Speaker 3 He's got the blue decal with the person in the chair on it. Yep.

Speaker 1 In the wheelchair. Yeah.
That parking spot.

Speaker 3 Mike Tomlinson said, injuries test you. They don't define you.
Oh, okay. He's not allowing his team to be defined by the injuries that they have.

Speaker 3 Which, I mean, yeah, that's fair because I think we defined this team before the injuries happened.

Speaker 3 And then they kind of lived up to that.

Speaker 1 I feel,

Speaker 3 I still think that if Aaron Rodgers, if he comes back, they can make the playoffs.

Speaker 1 It's getting crowded in the AFC. It is.
It's getting very crowded. By the way, I'll throw out one negative thing for the Bears haters.
They can throw out, I've seen it tweeted at me.

Speaker 1 The Bears are the third team in NFL history to have eight-plus wins and a negative point differential through 11 games of a season. I get it.

Speaker 1 Haven't done anything convincing, but we've done it. It's just minus three.

Speaker 3 Yeah. It's barely negative.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that Lions game really hurt in week two. Yeah.

Speaker 3 I mean, if you take it.

Speaker 1 That one's carrying a lot.

Speaker 3 If you exclude weeks one and week two,

Speaker 3 if you say since week three.

Speaker 1 Well, no, weeks one was we only lost by three.

Speaker 3 Yeah, but if you just take out weeks one and two,

Speaker 3 then you guys are sitting pretty.

Speaker 1 Dominant team. Dominant team.
Dominant team. One loss.
Dominant team. Okay, next up, let's stick in the division.
Packers 23, Vikings 6.

Speaker 1 9.

Speaker 3 Do we have a 9 problem?

Speaker 1 I think we have a significant nine problem.

Speaker 3 I think that people just don't believe hard enough in nine.

Speaker 1 J.J. McCarthy,

Speaker 1 so

Speaker 1 they had, he had four net yards in the second half. He had two picks.
He had five sacks.

Speaker 1 And then there was the insult graphic that was actually kind of mean-spirited that they put up there that said, stats, completion percentage, TD to interception, passer rating, and every single one for the quarterbacks was last, last, last.

Speaker 1 They shouldn't say that. Oh, that's a good meme by the PMT stats.

Speaker 1 The guy sitting on the good side of the bus,

Speaker 1 Big Cat Bears 8-3, Max 8-3 on the sad side, does feel like that right now.

Speaker 1 I'm as excited as possible. Max is not happy.

Speaker 3 It's a wonderful feeling. Just look at the numbers.
Be happy with the numbers next to your name, Max.

Speaker 1 That's a good number.

Speaker 1 That's a good numbers. I'm pumped to be 8-3, Max.
You pumped to be 8-3? Nope. Okay.

Speaker 1 All right. Packers 23, fucking 6.

Speaker 3 Max is usually our biggest 8 guy.

Speaker 1 I'm fucking bumped.

Speaker 1 JJ McCarthy. Who is Max? JJ McCarthy's bad.

Speaker 3 Nine is good. JJ's bad.
We didn't see nine today. We saw JJ.
It would help if they caught some of his passes, too. I know he had like at least at least one drop.

Speaker 3 That would have been good for another 12 yards on his total net yardage. But yeah, he was, dude, he was very bad today.

Speaker 1 It's never good, too, when the broadcast is doing the

Speaker 1 mechanics

Speaker 1 zoom-ins. They had his feet, feet, the mechanics,

Speaker 1 all types of graphics going on where his feet were ending up, his throws, the one he sailed for an interception, and the other one where he did get his arm grabbed.

Speaker 1 Oh, Devontae Adams scored another one-yard touchdown. That's all he does.
He's a beast at that. J.J.
McCarthy looks like he is in very deep water. Yeah.
I think that's fair to say.

Speaker 1 Now, the Packers' defense is nasty. The Packers' defense has been playing lights out.
They've been beating, they've been keeping keeping them in every single game. That's never been the problem.

Speaker 1 Micah Parsons was a beast today, but J.J. McCarthy looks like he's in trouble.

Speaker 3 Very much.

Speaker 3 I want to believe in nine.

Speaker 3 I think it's funny to have a quarterback that gives himself an alter ego name that steps into character and just like wills his way to victory in games that he should absolutely lose.

Speaker 3 I think that's good for the NFL ecosystem to have a guy that... that actually sucks but somehow wins games.
He's just not doing enough to win games that he sucks in. He's got the sucking part down.

Speaker 3 We just got to figure out the very end of game situations for him. And it's not happening.
And on that list, that graphic that they put on the screen, you don't have to say last.

Speaker 3 You can say 32nd. You can do numbers.
But when you say last, it really twists the knife a little bit. Last hurt.
It's hard to ignore.

Speaker 3 If you say, if it's 32nd, then people can look at it and be like, well, maybe there's a bunch of starting quarterbacks that are behind him. And this includes just backup quarterbacks that got in.

Speaker 3 So maybe it's really 32nd out of 50 quarterbacks. And you don't have to put last.
That felt personal to Vikings fans. And

Speaker 3 Vikings fan, you got to support your guy. Packers fans, you've been lucky enough to have Aaron Rodgers, Jordan Love, Brett Favre.
They had their down moments too.

Speaker 3 What if all their down moments came in like the first seven games that they played for you?

Speaker 3 That might be what's happening with nine right now. You're being tested.

Speaker 1 Can I give you a blind resume?

Speaker 3 Will you pass the test, Vikings fans?

Speaker 1 Can I give you a blind resume? Okay. I'm actually fine.
Vikings fans, if you're like, I don't want to take this test anymore, I wouldn't disagree with you. Because here's the thing.

Speaker 1 J.J. McCarthy, and there will be pushback that

Speaker 1 why do other quarterbacks get more leeway

Speaker 1 in the NFL, like young quarterbacks? The problem with J.J. McCarthy is it is his second year, so he was able to be in an NFL

Speaker 1 locker room for a year. I'm not saying that

Speaker 1 he obviously couldn't play, but going into his career in the NFL, the question was, what does it look like when he's not on a dominant defensive team that can run the ball when

Speaker 1 he's asked to do more? It wasn't winning Heisman trophies or winning playoff, you know,

Speaker 1 putting up gaudy numbers. That was a legitimate question.
So obviously, people are going to freak out after six games, which is fair.

Speaker 1 It's fair to freak out.

Speaker 3 I just give him some more time.

Speaker 1 Do you want the blind resume or no? Yeah. It feels like you don't because you want to give him time.
No, I do. I do.
Okay.

Speaker 1 First six career games.

Speaker 1 Quarterback A, 929 yards, six touchdowns, 10 interceptions. Okay.
Sacked 20 times. Pass rating of 57.9.

Speaker 1 Quarterback two,

Speaker 1 1,051 yards, 5 touchdowns, 3 interceptions.

Speaker 1 Sacked 16 times, pass rating of 76.9.

Speaker 3 What are the two sack numbers there?

Speaker 1 Quarterback a was 20 times quarterback b was 16 times okay that's a lot of that's a lot of sacks

Speaker 3 um which one is j I think the the first one's JJ it is

Speaker 3 and the second one is a guy who who might be thought of as being a bad quarterback he is okay uh who Johnny Benzel worse

Speaker 1 um

Speaker 1 Zach Wilson worse

Speaker 3 worse

Speaker 1 than Zach Wilson Jamarcus Russell oh

Speaker 3 that's about as.

Speaker 1 That's about sent to me. This was sent to me by a Vikings fan who I will have remain anonymous because I do not want to get him in trouble.
But a Vikings fan sent me that.

Speaker 3 I think Jamarcus Russell.

Speaker 1 A Vikings fan sent me.

Speaker 3 He needed a little bit more time.

Speaker 1 I think we need a Josh Allen, J.J. McCarthy, blinder resume.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Start to talk about that.

Speaker 3 I have seen a lot of Vikings fans do that, being like,

Speaker 3 why aren't you talking about him like you talked about Josh Allen's rookie year? There is that narrative out there. Yep.
This might be a young Josh.

Speaker 1 Okay. All right.
I'm not trying to shit on him. Obviously, he plays for a divisional foe, so I'm not rooting for him, but I don't want him to

Speaker 1 have a bad time.

Speaker 3 But I mean, if you're. Listen, JJ.

Speaker 1 I want him to not be good, but I don't want him to have a bad time, if that makes sense.

Speaker 3 JJ is Mr. fourth quarter, kind of, in at least like two games this season.
Maybe he's just waiting to play good football until the game's actually like his back's against the wall. When he feels

Speaker 3 they're losing in the fourth quarter of the season and then it's nine time and then it's nine time then the uh then the face paint gets even darker

Speaker 3 the steps get faster the heartbeats harder he's probably at that point right now four and seven

Speaker 1 I'm looking at I got I got a blind right resume going into today of JJ and Josh Allen okay give it to us

Speaker 1 it's it's it's on the screen oh

Speaker 3 um

Speaker 3 first five career starts

Speaker 1 okay they're not too dissimilar.

Speaker 1 There's a lot of. Unfortunately, the eight interceptions is now 10 interceptions.
And Josh Allen was better as a rusher.

Speaker 1 He had three touchdowns rushing. So he had five total touchdowns.
I guess, yeah.

Speaker 3 It's not crazy. Yeah.

Speaker 3 But the difference is also that JJ

Speaker 3 is on a team that was very good last year.

Speaker 1 And Josh Allen has a rocket arm.

Speaker 3 Looks good in shorts. Looks great in shorts.

Speaker 1 But the Texans did fuck him up. We're going to talk about that later.
I swear to God, Texans fans. The Packers, though,

Speaker 1 let's just at least say that J.J. McCarthy was bad.
The Packers' defense is really fucking good. Again, so that was a tough task for him.
Yeah, they banged him up.

Speaker 1 Also, shout out to Manuel Wilson because Josh Jacobs was out. Emmanuel Wilson, undrafted

Speaker 1 free agent. He played at a very small college.
I think he was in the league on a practice squad like last year or the year before. He had 170 yards for the Packers on the ground today.

Speaker 1 100 yards of those came after contact. Also, the first Packer running back to have a 100-yard game since Josh Jacobs in week 12, 2024.
That's pretty crazy.

Speaker 3 Yeah, and the Packers' offense, when they're running the ball like twice as much as they're passing it, is actually a lot better.

Speaker 3 It's not necessarily against love, but it makes everything easier if you can run the football. Yeah.
So that's the formula for the Packers.

Speaker 1 I've seen some.

Speaker 1 Jerry Jones has won the Micah Parsons trade discourse.

Speaker 1 What is that?

Speaker 3 Because Michael Parsons has been pretty damn good.

Speaker 1 He's threw 11 games at the Packers. He has 10 sacks, 20 QB hits, 60 pressures, leads the NFL.

Speaker 3 I think it's because when Micah Parsons was traded, for some reason, everybody around the league thought that the Cowboys were going to finish with the number one overall draft pick at the end of this year.

Speaker 3 They would be that bad. And people thought that the Packers were going to win every single game and win a Super Bowl.
And then the Packers have lost a couple games

Speaker 3 to some inferior opponents. They've tied against the Cowboys.
That's where it goes down to. It's like if the Cowboys,

Speaker 3 the Cowboys lost that trade in the moment to the Packers. Yep.

Speaker 3 But then they tied the Packers head to head.

Speaker 3 Therefore, the Cowboys actually won that trade.

Speaker 1 Okay, that makes sense. Does that make sense? Yeah, that makes sense.
Okay. The tie won them the trade.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it didn't make them losing the trade didn't make them as bad as people thought it was going to make them. Therefore, they kind of won the trade.
Yeah. It's all about expectations.

Speaker 1 I think that logic makes sense.

Speaker 3 I think the Packers fans are also one of the doom and gloom maxes on the dark side of the bus

Speaker 3 that are upset with their 7-3-1 record right now.

Speaker 1 Yeah, nitpicking. I mean, Jordan Love didn't even have to play this whole game.
No, he came out. Malik Willis played then because the game was, they were like, there's no way nine is scoring on us.

Speaker 3 Yeah, this is the formula. You throw the ball 21 times, you run it 42 times, exactly twice as much.

Speaker 1 Let's go around the room.

Speaker 1 Who's still believing in JJ McCarthy?

Speaker 1 Max PFT. I am.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Hey, it costs nothing to believe in a guy.

Speaker 3 It can. Yeah, no, it can.
I mean,

Speaker 1 what's anyone going to say? Oh, you were wrong?

Speaker 3 You know, like, money, money. Oh, yeah, that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. No, that will definitely

Speaker 1 be if you still believe in a guy.

Speaker 3 Listen, I just want JJ to be good. I think that the league's a better place when you have guys that suck that end up winning football games.
Not that I'm saying that JJ sucks.

Speaker 1 Sounds like he sucks. I think he sucks.

Speaker 3 I think he's. That was confusing.
He's a great personality to have in the league.

Speaker 1 Sounds like you want to laugh at him.

Speaker 3 Listen, he's got a great personality.

Speaker 1 So you're believing in him for a bit, not because of the fit. Yeah, you're not actually believing in it.
There's nothing he's shown you on the field that's

Speaker 1 a drear.

Speaker 3 Mr. Fourth quarter.

Speaker 1 So Dreer is just giving me ammo of what I should be saying. So no one's believing in him here.

Speaker 3 Mr. Fourth quarter.

Speaker 1 Dreer is a co-worker of ours who really likes J.J. McCarthy.

Speaker 1 I don't even think. But I believe in him.
I think most Vikings fans are probably having a little bit of a crisis.

Speaker 3 He beat the Lions, Mr. Fourth quarter.

Speaker 1 He did beat the Lions.

Speaker 1 He beat the Bears. He beat the Bears.

Speaker 3 He beat the Bears.

Speaker 1 He almost beat the Bears twice. He already beat the Bears.

Speaker 3 He actually beat the Bears last week, but then his special teams let him down.

Speaker 1 Mm-hmm.

Speaker 1 Well, he also drew a couple picks.

Speaker 3 But I'm saying, like, at the end of the game, he had the game-winning drive.

Speaker 1 He left. He did have a game-winning drive.

Speaker 3 He gave his special teams a lead at the end of the game.

Speaker 1 He had a game-winning drive.

Speaker 3 Now, this next week is going to be awesome because they're going to Seattle and Sam Darnold gets to play against the Vikings, who didn't want him,

Speaker 3 ran him out of town last year. This is Nine's opportunity to step up.

Speaker 1 I don't know. I don't think so.

Speaker 3 Do you believe, Hank? Fuck no.

Speaker 1 There you go, Hank.

Speaker 1 I don't even think it's a point, too, where you can hurt Vikings fans' feelings. I think there's a lot of them that are like, I don't believe.

Speaker 1 It's been bad. And again, it's the context of it.
It's not, he was awesome in college, you know, this incredible skills and everything. No team didn't believe.

Speaker 1 They were lying about his injury, so he didn't have to play. The soft benching.

Speaker 1 And the Shepherd fake reporting.

Speaker 3 Yep. Yeah.
And they had like soft trades in the offseason, too. Their soft.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, they did do some soft trades.

Speaker 3 Their soft pursuit of Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 1 Yeah, why am I supposed to believe in him if Kevin O'Connell doesn't?

Speaker 3 Everything around him has been soft. It's been weird.
It's been weird. He's had a very strange

Speaker 3 last year of his career.

Speaker 1 It's been very weird.

Speaker 1 I forgot about the soft trades.

Speaker 3 Yeah, they were bringing guys in, moving them out.

Speaker 3 Florio told me I was an idiot for thinking that there was anything weird going on with the quarterback situation.

Speaker 1 Feels like there's some weird stuff.

Speaker 3 But Florio's too close to it. Florio is probably one of those.
He probably hates nine, and he's a Vikings fan.

Speaker 1 How much do you think J.J. McCarthy wishes he didn't say the nine part?

Speaker 1 Probably a lot now. A lot.
Probably a lot.

Speaker 1 It's just so memeable.

Speaker 3 Nine.

Speaker 1 It's just, it's, it's so bad. I do think the Packers are going to beat the Lions next week.

Speaker 1 Again, this is why I'm scared of the Packers is because of their defense. And Jordan Love will figure it out where he just floats backwards and completes all his passes.

Speaker 3 And if they get a home playoff game, forget it.

Speaker 1 No one's going to the Lambo. No.

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Speaker 1 Patriots 26. Bengals 20.
Henry. Yes.

Speaker 1 How you feeling? I feel good. I feel good.
We're 10-2.

Speaker 1 Number one seed. Best team on the podcast.
I feel great. Our injury is bad.
Will Campbell, that was bad. Did they have an update on him? The update is not official.

Speaker 1 There's rumors and reports that aren't like 100% legit. I don't know if they are, that are saying it might be like four to eight weeks.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 That's

Speaker 1 back for the playoffs.

Speaker 3 There you go. Back for the playoffs.

Speaker 3 I thought Drake May was excellent today. As I predicted, he had a career high in yards.

Speaker 1 Did he hit 300? He did not hit 300.

Speaker 3 294.

Speaker 3 Career high.

Speaker 1 He did have like a 60-yard pass interference. That probably hurt a little bit, but it is what it is.
Career highs or career high.

Speaker 3 Yeah, exactly. That's all you can do.

Speaker 1 It's just keep improving. Yep.

Speaker 3 Room for improvement still. He looked good today,

Speaker 3 except for a couple times in the first half. He had a couple bad throws today.
That pick six was really bad.

Speaker 1 It was pretty bad.

Speaker 3 And then Flacco was like, I'll see your pick six. I'll throw an even worse one.

Speaker 1 Flacco's pick six. I think Drake May

Speaker 3 was not the problem for the Patriots today. And even to say that it's a problem, like you guys won 26 to 20.
But the problem for the Patriots was the goal line offense. Yeah.
That was bad.

Speaker 3 I think you had 12 plays at the goal line today.

Speaker 1 So they had one sequence where they had nine plays within the 11-yard line, six of those snaps from the one-yard line. That was all in the same drive.

Speaker 1 They spent basically five minutes at the one-yard line. And then they had another one where they did it again and decided to kick a field goal.

Speaker 3 Yeah, so I think they ended up having 12 chances with goal to go, and they got a total of three points out of it. You guys straightened that out.

Speaker 3 Besides that, it's like they didn't play poorly at all.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and that happened against the Bucs, too, and they kind of got bailed out with the Stefan Diggs corner fade touchdown catch, but still not exactly a play you want to see on fourth and goal

Speaker 1 after the same thing where they had three plays basically from the 1-2-3 that they did not convert on.

Speaker 3 Who is the.

Speaker 1 But again, 10-2 with things to improve on.

Speaker 1 Glass half-full. That's a good thing.

Speaker 3 And when's your bye week?

Speaker 1 After we have Monday Night Football against Jameis and then bye.

Speaker 3 Are you playing Bishop Sycamore? Monday Night Football?

Speaker 1 Jameis Winson, what do you guys think? Oh, the Giants.

Speaker 3 The Giants. He's the best.
Yeah, he's the best. It's going to be a great game.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It's going to be a tough game.
Yeah. I just heard you guys suck him off for a fucking hour.
Who was the Bengals' number one receiver

Speaker 1 for the second half of this game? It was T. Higgins, but then he got a concussion.
Oh.

Speaker 1 What about Yoshi? What about him? He also got hurt. Oh, okay.
Mitchell Tinsley was the Bengals' top receiver in this game at the end of this game. Thanks, Max.
You mean

Speaker 3 their best receiver that was currently playing

Speaker 1 at the game?

Speaker 3 What about Jamar Chase? He's on the Bengals. We were also

Speaker 1 if we're going to do the injuries game. Yeah, two of our starters were.
Let's do the injury games. Let's try to do the injury games against the Bears.
Don't let them do it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 With the backup quarterbacks. I mean, it had to be mentioned.

Speaker 3 It had to be mentioned that Mitchell Tinsley was their number one.

Speaker 1 Former commander.

Speaker 1 Was he really? Yeah, I just looked him up because I want to see if he went. If there's anything cool about him, not really.

Speaker 1 He was a commander. His Wikipedia is a commander shirt.
Okay. He was on the commanders from.

Speaker 1 Actually, no, he was on the practice squad for a year. So that's good.
Former commander. Played at Penn State, Western Kentucky, Hutchinson Community College.
Mitchelton's. Oh, so he's a nose.

Speaker 3 So he's a Nittany Lion. Yeah.
So, Max, you should love this guy. Good player.

Speaker 1 Yeah, good player. I just thought that he should get a shine.

Speaker 3 It had to be mentioned.

Speaker 1 He should get a shine.

Speaker 3 I want to know what the fuck the Bengals are doing defensively.

Speaker 3 Because watching this game,

Speaker 3 it was like a carbon copy of watching that Steelers game where they just let dudes just run across the middle of the field.

Speaker 3 Like Hunter Henry, how many times is Hunter Henry wide open, like four yards past the line of scrimmage, with a linebacker like 12 yards away from him?

Speaker 1 A lot.

Speaker 3 And the Patriots did a great job of scheming stuff up against that defense. But Jesus Christ, if you're a Bengals fan, how do you do it?

Speaker 1 And you know what's the craziest part is they're playing better. Yeah.
They're playing better defensively the last two weeks.

Speaker 3 But still, it's got to be so frustrating. I guess your red zone defense today was good.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 Hank, was that more about red zone execution on offense or on good defense?

Speaker 1 I'll have to look at the all-22. We'll go with the offense.

Speaker 1 I think we've got to pick it up. Okay, pick it up.
Yeah. So at best, the Bengals can finish 9-8 if they win out.
That would be three straight years of 9-8.

Speaker 1 It does feel like that Super Bowl run was years ago, does it not? Yeah.

Speaker 1 They did, you know, the year after the Super Bowl run was the year that they went 12 and and then went and lost in the AFC championship game to the Chiefs.

Speaker 1 They had those two years, and it feels like since then, we're now on year three of

Speaker 1 not going to the playoffs and

Speaker 1 not winning football games. And Joe Burrow being out has a lot to do with it, but it's got to be frustrating as hell as a Bengals fan because you had Super Bowl

Speaker 1 go to the AFC championship game, give the Chiefs their absolute best shot, and then since then, nothing.

Speaker 3 Patriots now 6-0 on the road this season

Speaker 3 that's good and what was the spread of this game seven and a half so did not cover did not cover okay what's that make them eight and three uh seven four and one it's not bad no that's pretty still pretty good i think that might be the best in the afc take it or at least right up there yeah uh i wouldn't i wouldn't say that there's a whole lot to be upset about except for the the goal-line offense today and i feel like maybe i don't know i don't know what frable does to get that straightened out Well, I mean, the Penguins.

Speaker 1 We have the Giants on the bye.

Speaker 1 That's a good, the bye week is a good time to really reassess. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Zach Taylor said losing is the worst. Agreed.
And then he said, why would you play, ask when

Speaker 1 you consider playing Joe Burrow, which I think is a fair question. He said, winning is important.
We want to win. Joe Burrow gives us a great chance to win.

Speaker 1 Do you think they win the game with a healthy Joe Burrow today? Probably. Yeah.
Healthy, yeah. Yeah.
With Joe Burrow coming off of an injury, who knows? Right. I'd agree with that.

Speaker 1 Just a little bit. But the receivers, he had no one to throw to, so probably not.
Mitchell Tinsley. Right? Mitchell Tinsley.

Speaker 3 Nidi line card.

Speaker 1 It doesn't matter how good the quarterback is. If you have no one to throw to, what are you supposed to do? No, I think that if...
I don't know what point you're trying to make. If Joe Burrows,

Speaker 1 I'm trying to follow up on your point from earlier. You put it in my hat.
I know, I agree. This is doing a follow-up point.

Speaker 1 This is a follow-up point right now.

Speaker 1 You and I are on the same page here.

Speaker 3 If Joe Burrow played last week, there's no chance that Jamar Chase would have spat on Jalen Ramsey because Joe's a good leader. Good leader.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Well, Jamar Chase got injured.
Wrong. Oh, he did that to himself.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 What does that have to do with you? He got you. What does that have to do with

Speaker 1 your ass?

Speaker 1 What point is that? I don't know. What is the point?

Speaker 1 He didn't play. It felt like

Speaker 1 the point was

Speaker 1 the Patriots cannot play against Jamar Chase.

Speaker 1 It does not matter

Speaker 1 why he did not play. Can I take a timeout, please? Why?

Speaker 1 Why does that matter? Max, I'd like a timeout.

Speaker 1 In the moment, the way Hank phrased that, it felt like a gotcha. Now that I'm out of the moment, I don't really understand the gotcha.

Speaker 1 But it did feel... Did you feel it in the room where he kind of goaded you into saying something and then he gotcha? It made no sense.
Yeah, but it still felt like a gotcha. I think you got gotcha.

Speaker 1 I think your whole point made no sense.

Speaker 3 I don't think Max got got it. No, he did.

Speaker 1 He said he got suspended. That's what Hank was looking for.
Hank, you said earlier. He was trying to see more of the nuts.
page. But why does that matter?

Speaker 1 It does. Why does that matter? Again, I think it was a premature gotcha, but in the moment, it felt like one.
If you look at the records, we have the most wins on the podcast.

Speaker 1 We also have the least amount of losses on the podcast.

Speaker 3 The least amount of losses, which is the loss of the market.

Speaker 1 The season is also not over.

Speaker 1 I'm just saying.

Speaker 3 Hank, does that follow up question that does having the most wins, does that make you the best team?

Speaker 1 I would say, yeah. Statistically, yes.

Speaker 3 Well, you were just calling the Colts frauds.

Speaker 1 Gotcha. That's not gotcha.
Yeah, you know what?

Speaker 3 You were saying that they're completely fraudulent and disrespectful, even though they have a lot of wins and they were the one seed.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but we didn't have it. We have every chance we have to prove ourselves, we do.
The Colts had a chance to prove themselves today. They did not.

Speaker 3 Right, but the concept of total number of wins not equaling best team, you've set the precedent that that's not always the case, but now you want that to be the case when your Patriots have the most.

Speaker 1 Well, we also have the least amount of losses.

Speaker 3 Well, that was also true with the Colts.

Speaker 1 No, they had the same amount as other teams, Patriots and.

Speaker 3 But when the Colts had the one seed.

Speaker 1 when they did, yeah. So you were saying,

Speaker 3 no, no, because you're saying that it's possible for a team with a lot of wins to be fraudulent. I'm asking you if that is the same thing.

Speaker 1 If the Patriots play

Speaker 1 the Eagles are

Speaker 1 a better team, probably. They have the winning experience.
They just won the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 I will give you that.

Speaker 3 So you're not the best team on the podcast.

Speaker 1 Well, statistically, we are.

Speaker 3 No, you just said right now the Eagles are a better team.

Speaker 1 But that's a hypothetical. I only look at numbers.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Meme just three 50 times back.

Speaker 3 You also just said that the Eagles are better.

Speaker 1 Hypothetically, yes. Statistically speaking, and in real life, real world, we are the best currently.
Who would you say is better than? Because you are the one seed right now, right?

Speaker 1 Ernest, the Broncos. We are.
Yeah. So are there any teams in the AFC that are better? We are.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to do this game.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Why not? I guess we'll stop the game. It wasn't a game.

Speaker 1 This is because I look for.

Speaker 1 It's a fair question.

Speaker 1 No, no, yes.

Speaker 1 Yes, no. We've got every single day.
When we talk about the Bears, I say they're 8-3, and I'm so pumped. I'm like, but I also know, like, hey, there's shit that has gone our way that I can't

Speaker 1 ignore them.

Speaker 1 I said this to PFT time and time again last year. You want to beat the best.
You got to beat the best. I don't care who we're playing.
I think we can beat them. AFC, NFC, don't matter.

Speaker 3 How would you feel about this season if you ended up winning 12 games? Yep. And then lose the first round of the playoffs.

Speaker 1 That would be disappointment. Big disappointment.

Speaker 3 Okay, you win one playoff game.

Speaker 1 Depends how we lose.

Speaker 3 Overtime.

Speaker 1 To who?

Speaker 3 You lose in overtime to the Buffalo Bills.

Speaker 1 Disappointment, but

Speaker 1 that's

Speaker 1 good for the future. You beat the Chiefs in round one.
You get blown out by the Jaguars round one.

Speaker 1 That's tough. That would never happen.

Speaker 1 I'd be happy with that, though.

Speaker 1 What if Dottington Bones just fucking dots your ass? Oh, he dots the fuck out of you.

Speaker 1 You might be Henna.

Speaker 3 That would be Henna.

Speaker 1 Dot you. That would be disappointing.
Henna ease.

Speaker 3 That'd be disappointing. What if you lost?

Speaker 1 Stop playing this game, by the way.

Speaker 3 What if you went to overtime and won against the Jaguars? Then you went to overtime and won against the Chargers. And then you lost by 50 points to Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 1 Good for the soul. Good season.
Good for the soul. Good for the future.

Speaker 1 What if you beat the Chiefs? Yeah, it's a fulfilling season with also like a fire in your stomach and pit in the offseason that's going to propel you in the future. What if you beat the Chiefs?

Speaker 1 Beat the Ravens, beat the Chiefs, beat the Ravens, and then get absolutely smashed by the Colts, who you called frauds.

Speaker 1 Same thing. Losing in the SC Championship would be a phenomenal, again, not phenomenal.
It would be a phenomenon. No, you said phenomenal.
Wow. You said phenomenal.

Speaker 1 But then he remembered. Wow.
But then he remembered. Yeah.
Horrible result.

Speaker 3 Yeah, but then he remembered. Phenomenal.
It would be phenomenal.

Speaker 3 Hank, nobody expects you to be here. You should just enjoy the ride.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 The Patriots season and the Bears season, it's pretty similar right now. I think the Bears

Speaker 3 have played a much harder schedule. But overall, if you look at it, pretty much in the same spot, you should just enjoy being here.

Speaker 1 And I am. And I continue to will.

Speaker 3 You continue to will. Yep.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I mean, I listen to this.

Speaker 1 You shouldn't apologize for being tennis. No, no.
You should not. But I have not.
You should not. I know.
That's all.

Speaker 1 Do not apologize. I won't.
I just like that you're being realistic about it.

Speaker 1 That was the most realistic we got. Talking about getting the AFC Championship game, saying that was a good season.

Speaker 3 That's why we played these games, eh? Yeah, that was, we, we played the game.

Speaker 1 That's we're all in a good, we're all in a better spot now than we were before this conversation. Correct.
That game was good. Grounded you.

Speaker 1 I guess.

Speaker 1 Bengals are just sad. I don't know what else to say.

Speaker 1 They're the tough. They might

Speaker 1 go to bed early on Thursday night.

Speaker 3 Well, it's probably going to be Joe. That's what's crazy.
Why?

Speaker 1 All signs that Joe Flash are playing.

Speaker 3 They shouldn't. Joe wants to play.

Speaker 3 Zach Taylor wants to save his job.

Speaker 3 That's what Zach Taylor probably could have said to the media when they asked him about it. Yeah.
Like, we play these to what we want to win football games. He gives us your best chance.

Speaker 3 He also gives you your best chance of not being fired. Correct.
When Joe Burrow is playing. Correct.
Burrow, if you're a Bengals fan, you should not want Joe Burrow to play this year.

Speaker 3 You should want to invest heavily in large men that shove people that play directly in front of Joe Burrow.

Speaker 3 And you should kind of move along to next year.

Speaker 1 Zach, quick update. How's this game going for you? Dumps are fire.
Okay.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was now 21 knots at you.

Speaker 7 I put 36 on our head before half.

Speaker 1 On your head. On your head.
On our head. Teams can come back from down 21.
No. What? No.

Speaker 3 In the first half?

Speaker 1 I think this is exactly home teams. True.

Speaker 7 I shouldn't have come in that negative. We still got time.

Speaker 1 There you go. That's on me.

Speaker 1 Another white tight end scored. Higby, I think, is out.
So now it's just

Speaker 3 Parkinson's. They're just down to the ring.

Speaker 1 They have another white tight end.

Speaker 1 They have four guys. Four white tight ends that look the same.
And also. Yeah, I bet one of them.
They're all numbers in the air. It's not a fun game to play.
No, that's what I was saying.

Speaker 1 You just got to bet all.

Speaker 1 You got to bet them all and just hope they score multiple times.

Speaker 3 I'm just thinking about nine again because the the rams have their own nine matt stafford it does seem to me like the i need to start reminding people to keep the same energy when another quarterback throws an interception i think it's now going to be like if if nine did this the media wouldn't shut up about it about every pick that's thrown who would that

Speaker 3 who would that just anyone that throws an interception but guys who've been good in the league yeah it doesn't matter it's just like if you throw a pick yeah yeah yeah yeah if j mccarthy did this they'd be writing articles about it already that's fair Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay, Seahawks 30, Titans 24. Jackson Smith and Djigba.

Speaker 1 He's incredible. He is another one.
So we said Jameer Gibbs is best tight. I need to stick with my takes because I said Jameer Gibbs is the best running back

Speaker 1 a month ago, and then I got a little bit bullied. And that's fine because I always forget people when I say that.

Speaker 1 I have been saying Jackson Smith Dajigba has been the best wide receiver this season for a month, and it is facts. He is incredible.
Eight catches, 167 yards, two touchdowns.

Speaker 1 He had 70% of their passing offense.

Speaker 1 He's awesome. He is on pace to break an NFL record of 2,029 yards.
That's his on pace right now. He's got 13, 13 on the season through 12 weeks.
He's insane.

Speaker 3 I need him to do it, and I need him to do it in 16 games, too.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's got 11 consecutive games, 75-plus yards. It's pretty incredible.

Speaker 3 He's always open downfield, and the Seahawks offense is just designed to get the ball downfield. This is why I love the Seahawks.

Speaker 3 They're fun. Not only are they a great team defensively,

Speaker 3 but they have maybe the best receiver in the NFL. Sam Darnold's playing out of his mind.
They got two running backs who

Speaker 3 I don't even know how to describe them. It's like sometimes one guy will be good.

Speaker 1 You can't figure out who's going to be good or who's going to get goal-line carries.

Speaker 3 One of the two of them will have a good game.

Speaker 1 Usually.

Speaker 1 I actually kind of appreciate that they're back to when, remember when running back by committee became a thing and it just pissed off everyone? Oh, the Panthers?

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the Panthers. Oh, it made people so mad.
Who's going to get the touches? All this stuff. It feels like we all kind of got accustomed to it.

Speaker 1 The Seahawks do it in a hilarious way that just fucks over anyone who is wagering or has fantasy football.

Speaker 3 I think it's all about whoever has the first big play, that's the guy that's going to end up with 13 carries. And then the other guy is going to end up with seven carries.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 That's kind of how they split it out. They wait to see who has that first breakout moment.
But when you really reach the level of like elite troll head coach is when you get that third guy in the mix.

Speaker 3 Like the Panthers had Tolbert.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 3 That would that would come out. That's a vulture.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 And, you know, the other guys would have like 70 yards and 40 yards rushing. Tolbert would have like three yards and two touchdowns.
That's when you reach that next Nirvana level of troll.

Speaker 1 So Cam Ward actually played pretty well in this game,

Speaker 1 given the fact that the Seahawks are really good defense.

Speaker 1 Seahawks actually, defensively, I was surprised that they weren't able in the fourth quarter or maybe it was a little bit of the third quarter as well. Cam Ward went on two touchdown drives.

Speaker 1 They covered the spread. They tried to stop him.
They kept on getting in fourth and long as Cam Ward kept on making crazy plays. If you're a Titans fan, this was a Cam Ward looked good.
I'm happy day.

Speaker 3 He had the one throw across his body that worked?

Speaker 1 Yeah, where he was like falling out of bounds and threw it all the way.

Speaker 3 He's done like six of those this season.

Speaker 3 He is the league leader in throwing across his body in situations that you should not do it, but actually having it work out. And he does it almost every week.

Speaker 3 You want to talk about the Bengals wide receivers, Max. Keep that same energy for the Titans wide receivers.

Speaker 3 Can you name? Here's a fun game. Can you name a Tennessee Titans wide receiver?

Speaker 1 Well, I know Xavier Strepo made his debut because of the Miami connection. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Calvin Ridley's hurt.

Speaker 3 Yes.

Speaker 3 And Meyer?

Speaker 1 You got Traylon Burke's not on the team anymore. Correct.
I got not.

Speaker 1 I have nothing.

Speaker 3 Memes, do you have anyone? Is A.O.

Speaker 1 Meyer hurt?

Speaker 3 He did not have a catch today.

Speaker 1 He might be hurt.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to lie, I didn't watch much of this football game. Nor should you.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 I'm not judging you for this at all.

Speaker 1 The Titans did have the

Speaker 1 chance with an on-side kick. It was a little bit closer in the end than it wasn't a full, full blowout that people were expecting.

Speaker 3 But when you're up 16-3 against the Titans, it does feel like

Speaker 1 you've got him buried. That's why

Speaker 1 I was impressed by Cam Ward because it did feel like the Seahawks had him in this perfect pin your ears back, just rushed the passer for the entire fourth quarter, and Cam Ward did enough.

Speaker 1 I mean, it doesn't look good ever with the Titans, but he makes it work because, yeah, he has no one to throw to. I think Van Jefferson is the only name that I know on this besides the running backs.

Speaker 3 Chamir Adike?

Speaker 1 Yeah, he had a nice punt return for a touchdown. That was big.

Speaker 1 Titans, every single Titans game has something like that. Like either

Speaker 1 Missile Teams or a pick six or some crazy play.

Speaker 3 They're a big miscue team. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Miscues happen in Titans games. College football plays happen in Titans games.

Speaker 3 I mean, the Titans are looking good now for that first overall pick.

Speaker 3 They're going to try to trade back.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they have to. Because, again, Cam Ward looked good today.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 That's all you're hoping for.

Speaker 1 And Vandy could maybe go to the playoff.

Speaker 1 Be huge. And Pavia, if he beats Tennessee,

Speaker 1 who knows? Jeremiah Love is the answer to that. Jeremiah Love should be the Heisman.
I think we all can agree, as unbiased ball watchers. Jeremiah Love, best player in college football.

Speaker 3 If it's not going to be Carson Beck, who knows, something can happen.

Speaker 1 Here you go, Pavia's mom.

Speaker 1 She's out there doing it.

Speaker 1 She's just in

Speaker 1 everything.

Speaker 3 That's okay. Yeah.
That's okay to have mommy.

Speaker 1 She's enjoying the hell out of them. Yeah, that are, you know,

Speaker 3 making a case for their sons, trying to protect their sons. That's completely normal.

Speaker 1 I don't know if it's the same as Jaden Daniels when she's walking around with Theo Vaughan all the time and doing the Heisman pose into

Speaker 1 camera drunk in the fourth quarter. But hey,

Speaker 1 this could...

Speaker 1 What I love about Diego Pavia is I think

Speaker 1 he and his family realize that this might not be a NFL thing. Enjoy the fuck out of what they got going on right now.

Speaker 3 He's the ultimate college football quarterback.

Speaker 1 What are you guys laughing about? Share with the class.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 you can't share that one.

Speaker 1 it. Never mind.

Speaker 3 Wait, wait, wait. Let me read it.

Speaker 1 You can't share that. Do not share that with the class.

Speaker 3 That's just a mean tweet. But you guys.
Where did you even find that tweet?

Speaker 1 You guys agreed Jeremiah Love should be the Heisman, right?

Speaker 1 We can all agree? Yeah.

Speaker 3 I think his stat line is very impressive.

Speaker 1 Did you guys keep your bets on him? Did anyone else bet him with me? I didn't bet him. I have Carson Black.
Jesus, I thought we were betting as a whole crew. We said it before the Carson season.

Speaker 1 I think you said it before the season, and then after the first game, you were like. It's going to be hard.

Speaker 1 This is dad. Yeah, but then he.

Speaker 3 I think you asked the class, like, should we bet Jeremiah Love?

Speaker 1 No, I said we were betting Jeremiah Love. I definitely did.
I have Carson Beck.

Speaker 3 I have Carson Beck, and that was not me. I got Bain for Miami.

Speaker 1 Do you think I said Carson Beck?

Speaker 3 You did say Carson Beck because I said

Speaker 1 PFT. I thought you said Carson Beck.
You were the Miami guy.

Speaker 3 I said, I'm putting a future on Miami. And then you said, I think the play is to do Carson Beck Heisman.
Okay.

Speaker 1 But Jeremiah Love, I know I said it out loud because I have a lot of people in my mentor. No, you did.
You did. You did.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 Also, Jalen Daniels.

Speaker 1 No. I think what you did is

Speaker 1 you said Jeremiah Love, but this isn't my official Heisman pick. Okay.
All right. I think that's what you said.
I bet it. Because you went through a phase of like, this is not my official pick.

Speaker 1 Okay. Got it.
Well, I'm going to be talking a lot about Jeremiah Love for the next week.

Speaker 3 I'll still support that because I don't think that Carson Beck's going to win it.

Speaker 1 You never know.

Speaker 3 You never know. He's running out of time.
What if Bain has like 10 sacks next week and three touchdowns? I see.

Speaker 1 I think I do have. I mean, I think I do have

Speaker 1 bet a little Carson Beck, but Jeremiah Love was the one I bet before the season.

Speaker 3 Is Carson Beck even on that first sheet?

Speaker 3 No.

Speaker 3 It's not happening. Carson Beck has.

Speaker 1 That's a better thing.

Speaker 1 I bet a little John McDonald.

Speaker 1 Oh, so you're totally out on Jeremiah Love. Yeah, that's fine.

Speaker 3 If you lose one game to Louisville, the writers just forget about you for the rest of the year. That's how it works.
And Carson Beck's no different.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Okay, Ravens 23, Jets 10.

Speaker 1 Memes. Ravens Jets kind of had them for a half.
Jets, they're competing. They are.
They're playing hard. Yeah, they haven't lost locker room yet.

Speaker 1 This is just an evaluation time for the Jets. Ravens didn't look good at all.
No, they didn't. Lamar looks stinky.

Speaker 3 I have a question, Memes. Question.
Is it time to let Brady cook?

Speaker 1 No. No.
No. He's not an NFL quarterback.

Speaker 3 How do you know that?

Speaker 1 I'm sure they would have put him in already. Are you? Yes.

Speaker 3 You think the Jets have a commitment to starting the best quarterback at quarterback position this year?

Speaker 1 Well, Tyrod was hurt at the time.

Speaker 1 The whole time?

Speaker 1 For the three weeks they were going to start him, yeah. Okay.
All right.

Speaker 1 Tyrod didn't look bad. No, he didn't.

Speaker 3 No, he didn't. But my thought was just like, if you're the Jets, you want to, you might as well see what you have, right?

Speaker 1 No, you need to see where you have.

Speaker 3 what you have elsewhere. Other positions.

Speaker 1 Yeah, receiver. Like John Mechie looked great today.
We traded him. We traded for him from the Eagles.
He looked good. A.D.
Mitchell? A.D. Mitchell looked good.
Yep.

Speaker 3 You also have to evaluate the OC.

Speaker 1 Similar to the Mike Kafka play, you have no problem with Aaron Glenn because the game was 10-7 and you went for it on fourth and two

Speaker 1 on your own 42 and then didn't get it. Ravens go down and score a touchdown.
You're fine with that, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, the season's over. Right.
You're just trying to see what you got and also.

Speaker 1 I think if the game mattered, you punt it. Yeah.
I think Aaron Glenn would have done that.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I thought the Jets, like, they hung around, and

Speaker 1 I don't know

Speaker 1 Lamar did not look great. No, he's clearly injured.
Yeah. The Ravens are the Ravens are treading water right now.
I know.

Speaker 1 They came back to take the lead in the AFC North. And now I agree with you.
Like, I wasn't.

Speaker 1 We'll see what happens on Thursday night football, but the Ravens feel like they got all the way back to 6-5, and things are, at least from a standings-wise, looking good. But

Speaker 3 are they the ravens the ravens have lost yes they've had they've had a five game winning streak we all kind of saw this coming the prophecy foretold that the ravens would take over first place they did but the teams that they beat there's a reason why we thought that they would come back

Speaker 3 um the one the one outlier i would say would be against the bears that was a weird game yeah uh but besides that bears game All their losses that they have on the year are to all the good teams that they played.

Speaker 3 They've yet to beat,

Speaker 3 besides, besides, I guess the Bears, a good team, a team that you would lump in that above-average category.

Speaker 1 The team that's currently in the playoffs. Yeah.

Speaker 3 So we're not going to know for maybe a couple of weeks. Like three more weeks.
Until they play the Patriots. Until they play the Patriots.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I had the same takeaway, though, Memes. I was like, all right, Ravens won.
They kind of sleptwalked the first half, picked it up in the second half, but Lamar did not look crisp at all.

Speaker 1 No, he was missing a ton of throws. And

Speaker 1 Zay Flowers looks good. I would probably go running back by committee if I was the Ravens.

Speaker 3 Oh.

Speaker 1 I think Derrick Henry's time is done. I like that take.
What did you see today? I mean, he didn't have

Speaker 1 two touchdowns, but he just does nothing. And all the other running backs are at least explosive.

Speaker 1 You think he finally hit the wall? Because it is going to go like that with him. I feel like.
It was like that touchdown he scored against the lion since then just hasn't.

Speaker 3 Well, I think this is kind of what Derrick Henry has been. But now you have an injured Lamar.

Speaker 3 And Derrick Henry, if you have like an explosive Lamar that's running the ball, he's way harder to defend.

Speaker 1 But you need an explosive Derrick Henry to counteract the injured Lamar.

Speaker 3 One of them has to be explosive. Yes.

Speaker 1 If Derrick Henry's explosive, they're money right now.

Speaker 3 Right. If Lamar's explosive, they're money right now.

Speaker 1 Correct.

Speaker 3 And Derrick Henry would probably look better.

Speaker 1 Correct. But their other running backs look better, too.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 No, you're not wrong. I don't think that the Ravens' offense has been good.
I think that they've been way, way below expectation for the last, even

Speaker 3 their entire winning streak that they've been on.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Keith Mitchell only had two carries today. He had 10 yards.

Speaker 1 Derrick Henry's

Speaker 1 averaged three yards of carry today. Yeah, just the whole offense doesn't look like he has that pop.

Speaker 1 No, they should probably fire Tom Hunkin.

Speaker 1 Why? I don't know. Send him back down to Georgia via offensive analysis.
Oh, interesting.

Speaker 1 Interesting.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Do you see there was another Georgia player? Yeah. He was third string.
Okay.

Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 1 is he now going to be first string? Well, he's the next player. He's kicked off the team.

Speaker 3 If he wasn't playing.

Speaker 1 It's just crazy that it happens to Georgia like that.

Speaker 3 How many players that were first string got kicked off the team?

Speaker 1 We're focused on this kid who got at some point. You just need to get

Speaker 1 it. Yeah.
Unlimited Ubers for Georgia players. There's probably a speed trap down there.
Yeah, probably. I'm sure.
I'm sure that the police in Athens, Georgia, are looking to try to

Speaker 1 arrest Georgia football players. Yeah, it's probably some soccer geek.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 Jealous.

Speaker 3 Jealous of Kirby.

Speaker 1 I have nothing else on this game.

Speaker 1 I have to say I didn't pay much attention to this game other than when I saw the Ravens on offense.

Speaker 1 Like, ooh, Lamar just doesn't, he just doesn't have that explosiveness that it's like missing something. It looks like a little off.
It looks like his power has been zapped a little bit.

Speaker 1 And it's the injuries.

Speaker 3 I mean, the only thing is that this is so much different from any Ravens team that we've seen in the last, like in the Lamar era. What do you mean?

Speaker 3 Where they haven't been good offensively, but they're somehow on top of the division. The defense still looks like

Speaker 3 they're back. The defense is fully back for the Ravens.
So if Lamar can get healthy, I think then the Ravens can be a scary team in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 But he's not healthy. So I don't know.
I don't know what he's dealing with right now. If it's still the hamstring.
Maybe this is the way.

Speaker 3 Lamar on Thanksgiving is going to to be a bad, bad scene for all the toilets.

Speaker 1 Maybe this is the way the Ravens have to do it, where Lamar, you can't be a disappointment in the playoffs if you are not playing at MVP caliber level in the regular season.

Speaker 3 Right, and these are all kind of playoff games for Lamar.

Speaker 1 If he just elevates, though, when the playoffs do start, then it's like, whoa, he did it. Okay, let's take a break and we'll talk some afternoon games.
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Speaker 1 Okay, afternoon games.

Speaker 1 Cowboys 24, Eagles 21. The largest comeback, tied for the largest comeback in Cowboys' history.
What a game. Down 21-0 like that.
It's crazy.

Speaker 3 Dak looked off in the first half. Had a bad interception in the end zone.

Speaker 1 Things didn't look to the best. The Eagles looked good.
Awesome. Throwing the ball everywhere.
Jalen Hurts to A.J. Brown.
It was clearly a focus in the first quarter. Go up 21-0.

Speaker 1 Think it's going to be a cruise victory. Kelly Green uniforms.
And then A.J.

Speaker 3 Brown was happy. Yeah,

Speaker 1 feeding him early.

Speaker 1 They were dominating. And then something happened because the Cowboys...
through defense, which was the best defense the Cowboys have played all year in that second half,

Speaker 1 through

Speaker 1 Dak and George Pickens. George Pickens was nine for nine for 146 yards and a touchdown.
So he had nine targets. He caught nine balls.
He catches everything.

Speaker 3 And their special teams was really good, too, for the Cowboys. Special teams was good.

Speaker 1 Very good.

Speaker 3 And if I'm watching this game, I'm thinking two things. One,

Speaker 3 great win for the Cowboys. Great win.
Great win. They look to be out of it.
They fought back. The defense looks to be as fixed as the defense can get for the Cowboys.
Overstone coming back.

Speaker 3 Yeah, Quinn Williams and Overstone coming back. Definitely helps.
And then the second thing I thought watching this game was this sucks for the Bears.

Speaker 1 Oh, big time.

Speaker 3 Because the Eagles. Big time.
If they'd won, you could catch them sleeping on Black Friday. Yep.
They're going to be wide awake.

Speaker 3 This is a game that they're going to.

Speaker 3 No one's taking a day off next week. I don't care if it's Thanksgiving, if anyone has travel.
No, you're coming in the office. You're working hard.
You're watching extra film if you're the Eagles.

Speaker 3 So bad.

Speaker 3 The Chicago Bears are on notice. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 I wanted the Eagles to win this game. I know.
I was like, holy fuck. I wanted them to win it easily.
Yeah. But what a comeback.
Max.

Speaker 1 Max.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, that was pretty bad. That was the.

Speaker 1 There's a lot of things that were that.

Speaker 1 Almost every

Speaker 1 facet of this game after the first quarter was bad.

Speaker 1 I love when you take deliberate pauses because you know that you have to watch what you say, knowing that the deliberate pauses will become less and less.

Speaker 1 And when you finally say what you want to say, you're going to yell. You're going to get your hands out.

Speaker 1 He's not going to yell this off. You're going to get your hands out.
You're going to say what you want to say. So say it.

Speaker 1 The offense

Speaker 1 looks super bad after the first quarter. You thought you figured something out and you were spamming A.J.
Brown. You were spamming Devontae Smith.
What everyone wanted you to do for so long now.

Speaker 1 And then we stopped doing that. I guess we can't run the fucking football which is a huge fucking problem i don't know how

Speaker 1 it's basically the same offense as last year with almost the same players and for some reason last year we were the best rushing team like in the history of the nfl and this year we fucking suck at running the football

Speaker 1 and like we would go through this last year like you go up early and then you just use Saquon Barkley and you just end the game.

Speaker 1 We would just do the thing where when we were were up, we would just go on 10-minute drives and just end the fucking football game. Now, Saquon Barkley is running for like a yard and a half of carry.

Speaker 1 And I don't know whether it's his fault or I don't know whether the offensive line just sucks, but we can't run the football anymore. There are so many stupid fucking penalties today.

Speaker 1 The amount of times that that offense would make a big play, look like they were building something again in the second half, and then there was a stupid fucking penalty which didn't affect the fucking play at all that would bring back a good offensive chunk.

Speaker 1 chunk and then you're just playing like first and 25 the entire fucking time. The penalties are a joke.
The run game is a joke. I don't, like people keep saying the play calling.

Speaker 1 I don't watch film. I am not smart at football.

Speaker 1 Cool card. I don't know where

Speaker 1 I don't know what they should be doing. I'm not, it's their job to figure it out, not my job, but I do know that zero points after the, basically after the first quarter is really fucking bad.

Speaker 1 If you score some points, you probably win that fucking game.

Speaker 1 True, true. Jake Elliott makes and Xavier Gibbs.
Let the ball go to the fucking end zone. I said I wasn't going to yell.

Speaker 1 Let the ball go to the end zone.

Speaker 1 Let the ball go to the end zone. It's so simple.

Speaker 1 It's so simple. You caught the ball at the one yard line, and then you fucking fumbled it like a fucking loser.

Speaker 3 Max, I think you're not giving yourself enough credit. As dumb football fans, which we all are, I think in some circumstances, you got to just be dumb about it.
Just say, run the football.

Speaker 1 But they can't. They can't run the football.
But they got to keep trying.

Speaker 3 You can't give up on it. But you can't.
You're giving up on it. You're going to run it.
Because you're afraid A.J. Brown's going to be like, oh, offense is a shit show.

Speaker 1 I don't know if that's the answer. Saquon was 10 for 22 today.
10. 10 for 22.

Speaker 3 And they were up how much?

Speaker 1 But they can't run the football. They can't run.
You got to keep trying.

Speaker 3 You got to keep trying to run the football match.

Speaker 1 But that's insanity. If you can't do it and you keep trying to do it and you can't do it, then that's fucking insanity.
Figure out how to do it. That's the answer.

Speaker 1 Why can't we run the fucking football? We've got to figure out how to run the football.

Speaker 1 That's what has to be done. It has to be done.
This team cannot go anywhere if we're running for 2.2 yards per fucking carry.

Speaker 1 And we asked so much of the defense. We asked way too much of the defense.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 The Eagles' first three drives had 192 yards, and then the next eight drives in the game, they had 107 yards. It just went, it went completely.

Speaker 1 The last eight drives was

Speaker 1 four punts, a misfield goal, a fumble, a fumbled punt, and then there was one end of half. It's bad.

Speaker 1 Yeah. But you're 8-3.

Speaker 1 Doesn't 8-3 feel good? No. No.

Speaker 1 It feels good for me.

Speaker 3 How does this feel being 8-3 right now compared to two seasons ago?

Speaker 1 Not as bad as two seasons ago. No, your defense is still very good.
At least we have like...

Speaker 1 The defense is very good. It got super banged up today, which sucks.
I also

Speaker 1 think you do know football because you were saying when you were up 21-0 in the second half, you're like, this is not over.

Speaker 1 You said out loud. You're like,

Speaker 1 if anyone's listening to this, like, non-Eagles fans, like, the live bet of the Cowboys is not a bad bet.

Speaker 1 Also, just quick observation about, you know, what, what it looks like when we're watching these games in the cave.

Speaker 1 Max talked, couldn't stop talking, I think, for the first quarter. Oh, my God.
He was was the happiest boy that you've ever seen.

Speaker 1 He was making plans.

Speaker 1 He was joking.

Speaker 1 Asking people about their weekend.

Speaker 1 He just did not stop speaking. It basically is like watching someone on drugs.
You watch someone on drugs when the Eagles are winning, and it's like, oh, man, this guy took like, what did he take?

Speaker 1 Some mix of like ecstasy and Coke or just a lot of beers. And then

Speaker 1 the second half starts like, oh, shit, did he just do heroin? Like, why isn't he talking anymore?

Speaker 3 He becomes the small talk king after a win.

Speaker 1 Oh, what'd you do this week?

Speaker 3 After when he's going up to like everybody, that's it. It could be just like a custodian that's going through the office, emptying the trash, being like, hey, what's up? What's your name?

Speaker 3 Where are you from? You got any kids?

Speaker 1 That's awesome. He did admit it.
He said it and he caught himself in the middle of the first half. He's like, I'm talking too much.
It's because the Eagles are winning. I'm just so happy.

Speaker 1 And then it just nosedive. Max, do you?

Speaker 3 Um, do you put any blame on the refs for this game?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 Okay. You gotta run the ball.
You gotta run the ball. You gotta run.
Like, you gotta just be better.

Speaker 1 You gotta play better football.

Speaker 3 Play better football. And that's every guy.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Every guy out there.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 like the entire team had

Speaker 1 some sort of blame in this game. Zach Bond, I mean, he's got a fucking catch.
He made a great play on a ball. Just catch a fucking football, dude.
He's right. It hit you in the face.

Speaker 3 Max, I got a question for you, too. We love watching football games with you because you're just the most demonstrative guy that we got.
Every good thing that happens is the best.

Speaker 3 Every bad thing that happens is the worst. You contort your body into like little baby forms and you like sit crisscross applesauce and you start screaming.
It's great.

Speaker 3 I love what you're very entertaining to watch. Can you walk me through you pulling your heels over your head and grabbing your ankles as you're about to get Dak down?

Speaker 1 I said it looked like you were getting into the stirrups at like an obgen.

Speaker 1 It was just what you looked like.

Speaker 3 You just spread them for some reason. I wasn't sure what that was about, but when it happened, me and Big Cat just looked at each other like, I love Max.
You're so flexible. Yeah, it's crazy.

Speaker 1 You're a big baby. And I mean that in the nice way.

Speaker 1 I don't know. I don't think about anything.

Speaker 1 It's just like an involuntary reaction, everything that I do.

Speaker 3 That's big game Max.

Speaker 1 Yeah. He does that.

Speaker 3 I got you.

Speaker 1 You were spitting everywhere. I'm always spitting.
He always spitting.

Speaker 3 Yeah, you're yelling at Meek.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Well, Meek deserves it.
He does. He absolutely deserves it.

Speaker 1 He deserves that and more.

Speaker 1 The Cowboys.

Speaker 1 Cowboys. The Cowboys are good.
Dude, the Cowboys are good. That offense is electric.
George Pickens, again, nine targets, nine catches. He catches everything.
They can run the ball.

Speaker 1 CD still has a couple of weird drops a game, but there are just matchup problems everywhere. Jake Ferguson.

Speaker 1 And then their defense, which was one of the worst in the league, Quentin Williams gets traded for. Did Jerry do it again, or did Jerry do it again?

Speaker 1 Because since Quinn Williams has joined the Cowboys, their run defense has allowed 30 carries for 90 rushing yards. That's pretty damn good.
Just one of those 30 runs gone for 10-plus yards.

Speaker 1 They're doing something right, and they're not out of it, which is crazy to say. Like, the Cowboys are,

Speaker 1 they have a tough game against the Chiefs on Thanksgiving Day, but the Cowboys are... Absolutely not out of the playoff hunt.

Speaker 1 And everyone thought they were one of the worst worst teams, especially after that Cardinals lost on Monday Night Football.

Speaker 1 And here they are. And Brian Schottenhammer, you see the post-game locker room.
He's got these boys believing.

Speaker 1 It's crazy. I did not think the Cowboys would be back in it like this.

Speaker 3 No, I didn't either.

Speaker 1 You're right.

Speaker 3 It's Quentin Williams and Overshown getting back, and the defense has just changed now. I don't know if Iber Fluce is doing anything different from a scheme perspective.

Speaker 3 But with those two dudes in, it does seem like if the Cowboys can have that average defense, they can be a very, very scary team because the offense is not going anywhere.

Speaker 3 Dak is playing maybe the best that he's ever played throughout his career, and just having Pickens as an option downfield is a cheat code for him.

Speaker 1 So looking at the Cowboys schedule, the problem is in the NFC,

Speaker 1 the NFC might be a league where 10 wins doesn't get you into the playoffs, which is crazy to say, but it's pretty crowded. That tie.
That tie.

Speaker 1 So they have the Chiefs and Lions the next two games. If they go one and one there and they can win, the last four games are very, like four winnable games.

Speaker 1 Vikings at home, Chargers at home, at commanders at Giants.

Speaker 1 That could be a

Speaker 1 10, 6, and 1 team. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I don't know if it will be enough to get in.

Speaker 3 I think they could do it. If they stay healthy, I think they can do it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, their offense keeps them in every game, and now that they have a defense that can actually play, it's...

Speaker 1 You got dacked.

Speaker 1 You got dacked. You got dacked.

Speaker 3 I would not want to play the Cowboys in the playoffs. He wanted to throw that second pick so bad.

Speaker 1 So bad.

Speaker 1 So bad.

Speaker 1 He almost threw three. He got 12 men on the field.

Speaker 3 Max, does this make you

Speaker 3 think back on the Kelly Green on the road idea?

Speaker 1 You guys looked cool. It started off like.

Speaker 1 It was like Kelly Green saved the season.

Speaker 1 You're 8-3.

Speaker 3 Wait, it started off like

Speaker 3 they say.

Speaker 1 Save the offense is what I meant to say.

Speaker 1 You're 8-2 going into this game. I meant to say offense.
Are you panicked at all? No.

Speaker 1 What happens if you lose on Friday to the Bears?

Speaker 1 I'll be there. So if I lose,

Speaker 1 I might not come home.

Speaker 1 I might just live in the stadium.

Speaker 1 Probably got that arranged. Yeah.

Speaker 3 You probably know somebody.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 seven-point favorites got to win that game.

Speaker 1 Big Dom looked good watching Tom Brady and A.J. Brown throw the ball.

Speaker 3 They looked like they had a great time pre-game. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Are you going to see Big Dom

Speaker 1 on Friday? I don't know.

Speaker 1 I haven't spoken to him. Brady looked good.

Speaker 1 Did he?

Speaker 1 But are you a little bit activated that close to Big Dom? Oh, yeah. He activated A.J.
Brown. A.J.

Speaker 3 Brown and

Speaker 3 Devontae Smith.

Speaker 1 I'm going to say this as...

Speaker 1 I'm sure someone will say you're way wrong, but I think they're the two coolest cleat wearers in the NFL.

Speaker 1 Every game they got a new pair of cleats that look cool. That one catch from that catch from Devontae Smith was so fucking sick, too.
Yeah. It just ruined.
That first quarter was so awesome.

Speaker 1 The offense was so back. It was humble.

Speaker 1 I was like, soupy.

Speaker 1 We're going back-to-back, soupy. The offense is fixed.
The defense is elite. Best team ever.
And then just absolute fucking stuff.

Speaker 1 That's when you were chit-chatting, asking, you know, like, how's your,

Speaker 1 how's your sister doing? How's your mom doing? Oh, yeah. You got a new dog? Oh.
You make anything for Thanksgiving? Yeah. I'm making stuffing.
Oh, yeah. Oh, what do you do with your stuffing?

Speaker 1 Oh, here's what I got in my recipe. None of these.
I'm going to walk you through. None of my conversations.

Speaker 3 You know what

Speaker 3 I mean?

Speaker 1 I was doing yard work this week?

Speaker 3 We did have one conversation that did exist, Max. At the end of the first half, I was like, that's a bad touchdown you guys just gave up to the Cowboys.
That's going to haunt you.

Speaker 3 And then you poo-pooed me a little bit.

Speaker 1 You poo-pooed? Did you? Yeah, you poo-pooed.

Speaker 1 What did I say? Did you do any poo-pooing?

Speaker 3 You were like, yeah, obviously, I wish that we didn't give up a touchdown there. Nice job, genius.

Speaker 1 No, you just

Speaker 1 all you said was

Speaker 1 all you said was,

Speaker 1 I bet you wish you didn't give up that touchdown.

Speaker 7 Well,

Speaker 3 I would bet that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was like the most obvious. It was a magic.
You just did Magic Johnson. It was a bad match.

Speaker 1 You did Magic Johnson in my face. It was a bad touchdown.
You were like, giving up touchdowns are bad. It was a bad touchdown.

Speaker 3 Did you poo-poo him?

Speaker 1 He poo-pooed me. No, I agreed with you.
I was like, yes, yes, I would prefer not to give up touchdowns.

Speaker 3 In a sarcastic way, it was very sarcastic. He was like, okay, genius.
And then I was like, all right, so who gets the ball in the second half? And Max was like, we do.

Speaker 3 Bet you wish that I had said the Cowboys do.

Speaker 1 That's true. And I was like, okay, Magic Johnson.

Speaker 3 A bunch of shit.

Speaker 1 No, but the way that you asked, you were like, oh.

Speaker 3 Listen, Max, I don't like the Eagles or the Cowboys.

Speaker 1 Second largest blown lead in team history.

Speaker 3 I didn't have a dog in that fight.

Speaker 1 It was tied for the largest comeback by the Cowboys ever. Wow.
It's crazy. It's a crazy game.

Speaker 1 He just needed three more points.

Speaker 1 I mean, not technically, no. Technically, no, but still, it felt like

Speaker 1 you had hit it. Less poo-pooing and three more points.
You even got a Brandon Aubrey missed field goal. But we also missed a field goal.
Right, but Brandon Aubrey doesn't miss field goals.

Speaker 1 Jake Elliott doesn't miss field goals either. Brandon Aubrey doesn't miss field goals more.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 Gotcha there. Checkmate.
Gotcha there.

Speaker 3 Yeah, so Max, how do you fix the ground game?

Speaker 1 I don't establish that. That's right.
You have to do five. But you have injuries on the the offensive line.

Speaker 1 I would say that's probably part of it.

Speaker 3 It's a Lane Johnson.

Speaker 1 But even with Lane, like, we haven't been running the ball all year. We can't run the football.

Speaker 1 I don't know the answer. I am not a coach.
I am not a smart football guy. They need to figure it out because it's got to be figured out or else this team's...
I mean... And it's their job.

Speaker 1 They have to figure it out. It's literally their job to figure it out.

Speaker 3 They got to figure it out. You got to press the button.

Speaker 1 They got to fucking run the football. Yeah.

Speaker 1 We all got jobs to do yeah what do you say memes tank bigsby oh interesting more tank tank is good trade for tank bigsby he does have explosive runs when he is in do you get more carries do you think jalen hurts played well today

Speaker 1 i mean

Speaker 1 jalen hurts can't fucking win jalen hurt no i'm asking i i think he played fine i thought he yeah he was fine and he had a bunch and he had a bunch of big plays that got called back for penalties that

Speaker 1 I don't know. There's penalties that I don't know what they're happening while they're happening, but they are like

Speaker 1 ineligible

Speaker 1 being marked as ineligible and then lining up against a receipt. I don't know what any of that shit means, but I do know that it doesn't fucking affect the play.

Speaker 1 So stop doing stupid shit like that to take back big plays. That's what I'm calling.
It's not like a holding that stops a seat. That's what I'm saying.
It's stupid shit like that.

Speaker 1 12 men on the field because you just, some guy's late getting off that takes an interception.

Speaker 1 It's so stupid. But I don't.

Speaker 1 You figure it out. That's all I have to say.
You figure it out. You guys.

Speaker 1 They have to figure it out. It's not your job.
It's not my job. I don't know.
I'm doing it. I'm doing your job right now.

Speaker 3 You're telling them to figure it out. I guess.

Speaker 1 Yeah, this is technically my job. You are doing your job.
By the way, Dak Prescott passed Tony Romo for most passing yards in Cowboy franchise history. I love that.
Good for Dak.

Speaker 3 It was pretty cool.

Speaker 1 He was the lights out.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 he was trying to throw another pick.

Speaker 3 Can I say something off the record? Yeah, please. Off the record.

Speaker 3 Dak's kind of win me over this year.

Speaker 3 I'm starting to feel a little bit bad about just hating Dak Prescott. And I don't like that feeling.
I want to continue to hate him.

Speaker 3 I want to continue to have all the anti-Cowboys bias in the entire world. But he's playing so good.
And he seems like such a good dude besides when he was on the show.

Speaker 3 I'm having a hard time keeping the hate up.

Speaker 1 He kept trying to throw picks today. Do you know what it was? Do you know what it is?

Speaker 1 He's not only playing really well this year, but we also having Zach Martin in studio, and Zach Martin is the man. He's saying

Speaker 1 that Dak is, yeah, he vouched for Dak and was like, I bet you if he came back on, you'd have a good time. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's Zach Martin's fault. Why'd you do that to us, Zach? I don't like it.
Zach made us like Dak.

Speaker 3 I got to get my hate back up for Dak. I don't feel like myself without it.
Zach made us like... I need Hank to start rooting for him again.

Speaker 1 That would be. Max, what do you think about this Dak love that's going on right now?

Speaker 1 I mean, he tried to fuck this game up a million times. Yeah, he did.
That was a bad throw. I mean, he got fucking bailed out for a guy 12 men on the field doing shit.

Speaker 1 I mean, Zach Bond. He's 12 men on the field.
That's why he threw it.

Speaker 1 But that would make sense if it was like a deep ball.

Speaker 1 No, I know.

Speaker 1 So he's like just

Speaker 1 getting hit.

Speaker 1 Then throw it away.

Speaker 3 Well, no, because there's a flag, so you might as well throw it. Just throw throw it.

Speaker 1 Throw it. What does that even? There's a flag.
You never know. Just go throw it.
But

Speaker 1 that wasn't even. It's kind of a savvy move, but you might as well just see what happened.

Speaker 3 What about this one?

Speaker 1 That one, your guy's got to catch that one. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Zach Bond's got to catch that.

Speaker 1 He threw it right fucking to him.

Speaker 1 I mean, he tried to do big, stupid Dak picks all games, and we just weren't doing them.

Speaker 1 It literally hit Zach Bond in the face. Are you worried that people are saying that big game Max does not have it anymore? I've only had big games.
The Eagles have only been in big games this year.

Speaker 1 That's true. That's facts.
Is Black Friday a big game? Yeah. Yeah.
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
It's big game Max versus Big Gay Dan. The game's at 2 o'clock.

Speaker 1 That's just not true.

Speaker 1 The game is at 2 o'clock.

Speaker 1 That just changed Max's whole game. No, no, it's not.

Speaker 3 You think that Black Friday games are at night, people

Speaker 1 Black Friday.

Speaker 1 The game, I will be at the game. It'll be 3 o'clock where I am.
We're talking about the time here where we're sitting right now. It's at 2 o'clock.

Speaker 1 But what is the game? It's the only fucking game.

Speaker 3 Yeah, so it's a big game.

Speaker 1 I just asked.

Speaker 1 You said you're saying you're saying big games.

Speaker 1 You play Mitchell Tinsley, dude.

Speaker 1 That was your big game today.

Speaker 3 There's a good chance. I'll bet.

Speaker 1 You played the duo of Joe Flacco and Mitchell Tinsley and won by six.

Speaker 1 You were begging to lose that. Super Bowls is Jalen Hurts.

Speaker 1 Joe Flacco is 65 years old.

Speaker 1 He wasn't going to yell.

Speaker 1 I smell.

Speaker 1 He's right.

Speaker 1 Good luck on Monday Night Football against the two. Oh, you fucking peaches.
Wait, wait, wait. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
That's a big game. It's a solo game, right?

Speaker 1 It's a big game.

Speaker 3 Two playoff teams. Yeah, big game.

Speaker 1 The Eagles are 8-3. They're playing an 8-3 team.
Say their name. And it's the only game.
Say their name.

Speaker 1 It's the Bears. 7-Patien.
They're 8-3. Wait, so is today a big game? Well, I mean,

Speaker 1 it's Cowboys Eagles. It's always a big.
It was the big game. You have a winning record.
It's big gay Max.

Speaker 1 The Cowboys would smoke you guys right now. Oh,

Speaker 1 shit.

Speaker 1 If you were a man, you'd set it up.

Speaker 3 Anybody tell him anywhere?

Speaker 1 Get that fucking thing on the schedule.

Speaker 3 Let's get

Speaker 3 a neutral field line. Cowboys, Patriots.

Speaker 3 I don't know how to do that. I got my.
Well, you just say a number. Oh.

Speaker 3 I'm going to say the

Speaker 3 Cowboys will be favored by

Speaker 3 one and a half points.

Speaker 1 No, I think the Patriots would be favored.

Speaker 1 Two points? Two and a half points. I like the Zach's.
It'd be under a field goal.

Speaker 3 Or is that Max looking it up on?

Speaker 1 You're just thinking AI is going to give it to us? Here, I'll.

Speaker 3 Yeah, text.

Speaker 1 I'll text one of my guys.

Speaker 1 I'll text one of my guys. You do have the Raiders in two weeks, Max.

Speaker 1 Then big game Max can take a break off for a week.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but it it it's even then, like we the Bear the Bears this week and then the Charger like the Chargers week after is also like that's not a a gimme.

Speaker 1 The Raiders will be nice. If we lose to the Raiders, then I just quit.

Speaker 1 You quit? Yeah. Where do you quit? What? Everything.

Speaker 1 You can't lose that game.

Speaker 1 Okay, I'll get us an answer.

Speaker 3 That's not a big game.

Speaker 1 That's Cowboys.

Speaker 1 Patriots would be favored. Eagles.
Patriots would be favored. I think they would be favored.
I mean, who

Speaker 1 have they?

Speaker 1 Do they have any common opponents?

Speaker 1 But the Cowboys are the Cowboys are better now than they were. They're different.
Of course, I'm just trying to go. I'm just trying to.

Speaker 1 I don't even think they have any neutral. Did they play play the Steelers this year?

Speaker 1 Did the Cowboys? Yeah. The Cowboys did not.

Speaker 1 You're thinking of last year.

Speaker 3 Hank, tell me. See, the Cowboys have played a lot of really good teams, so I don't know that they'd have any common.
Oh, they played the Jets.

Speaker 1 They did play the Jets.

Speaker 3 They beat the Jets 37-22.

Speaker 3 What was your score against the Jets?

Speaker 1 Not

Speaker 1 the same. The Cowboys beat them by more.
Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 1 We were a different team.

Speaker 3 Yeah, Yeah, true. Have you played the cards? I've gotten

Speaker 1 worse. Memes went up to

Speaker 1 them if they played. I got one.
I was the worst team on the podcast. Oh,

Speaker 1 I got one.

Speaker 3 I actually have a common opponent. So, this is actually good because it's the recent Cowboys.
The Cowboys beat the Raiders 33 to 16. Hank, how much did you beat the Raiders by?

Speaker 1 Oh, we actually lost by the Raiders. Oh, okay.

Speaker 3 Yeah. It's crazy.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay, so

Speaker 1 I'm going to get a number force.

Speaker 1 I'm going to get a number for us. All right, let's go to the next game.
Browns 24, Raiders, 10. Shadassi.
Shadassi.

Speaker 3 Shadassi was the Shadassi game.

Speaker 3 Great 60-yard throw by Shaddassi.

Speaker 3 And then an awesome 66-yard touchdown pass by Shadur Sanders. Yep.
Yes, it was a screen pass, but

Speaker 3 Shadur hit him in stride against all odds, scoring a touchdown.

Speaker 1 He also said before the game, I'm who they've been looking for.

Speaker 3 He said that before the game.

Speaker 1 Before the game, he said, I'm who they've been looking for.

Speaker 1 They asked him what he wants to show Cleveland fans. I'm who they've been looking for.
Then after the game, he said, Imagine what a full offseason looks like. It gets dangerous.
Okay.

Speaker 1 He said, This is one week of practice. I have imagine what a full offseason looks like.
It gets dangerous.

Speaker 3 I have a real take here.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Miles Garrett

Speaker 3 should be the MVP

Speaker 1 if

Speaker 3 he breaks the all-time sacks record, which it looks like he's going, he's on pace to break slash

Speaker 3 shatter that. He had three sacks today.

Speaker 3 He's had 14 sacks in his last three games. Is that correct? His last four games.

Speaker 1 14 in his last four games? Yeah.

Speaker 1 That can't be right. Is it? I know he has 18 right now.
He has 18. I know he had four last week.
So, yeah, maybe it is. He had one against the Jets.
And he had four.

Speaker 3 So that's probably not right then. I probably misread that stat somewhere.
Either way,

Speaker 1 so that was it. He has now hit his career high in sacks.

Speaker 3 And there's six games left. The take overall stands, I feel like he should get MVP consideration.

Speaker 1 Wait, no, no, no. You just said he should win MVP.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 you can't walk that back. I think right.
Get a stop for the take. You can't walk it back.
Say with your chest.

Speaker 3 If he ends the season with, if he gets, what, 20, let's say 25 sacks.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that would smash it. That would be smashing it.

Speaker 3 He should be the MVP. If he gets 24, probably should still be the MVP.

Speaker 3 If you compare the last defensive MVP, which is Lawrence Taylor, he had 20 and a half sacks in 16 games, five passes defended, two forced fumbles. Those were his stats when he won the MVP.

Speaker 3 Granted, he was on crack when he did that, which is like an added level of expertise. If Miles Garrett does all this

Speaker 3 on the Browns, that's equivalent to Lawrence Taylor doing it on crack. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, he's insane. He has,

Speaker 1 you were right. So he has

Speaker 1 14.

Speaker 1 No, no. Yeah, 14 sacks.
Let me see. I'm bad at numbers.
Yeah, 14 sacks in the last five games.

Speaker 3 14 in the last five. Five games.
In the last five games.

Speaker 3 Pretty incredible run that he's on right now.

Speaker 3 Just

Speaker 3 dominant.

Speaker 1 Geno was sacked 10 times.

Speaker 3 Like, Geno's not good, but it wasn't just Geno not being good. It was Miles Garrett just being in his, the entire defense.

Speaker 1 Miles Garrett got Chip Kelly fired. He got fired right after the game.
They're like, yeah, we got to get rid of Chip Kelly.

Speaker 3 Do you think Tom Brady was consulted on that?

Speaker 1 He might have been the one who fired.

Speaker 3 Like, was Tom Brady going to the next one? They probably sent him a text.

Speaker 1 They're like, hey, Gino got sacked 10 times.

Speaker 3 There's a good chance that Tom

Speaker 1 Browns. That talks to the Shadusi.

Speaker 3 That Tom didn't watch the game because he was commentating on the Eagles Cowboys game, yeah? And then he got on a private jet to leave and then fired Chip Kelly from 40,000 feet in the air.

Speaker 3 He drone striked him.

Speaker 1 I think the Raiders are the worst team in the NFL.

Speaker 3 They're definitely the toughest watch.

Speaker 1 I think they're the worst team in the NFL. Their two wins are against the Titans and the Patriots.
They have lost. So they won against the Patriots week one.
They've had one win since.

Speaker 1 And it's not as bad as the Titans are. The Titans are moving the ball a little bit.
They're not in the game, but kind of in the game for a little bit.

Speaker 1 The Raiders are just getting like statistically dominated every which way.

Speaker 1 Every single game.

Speaker 1 I mean, they had that one game against the Jaguars where they were close, and obviously that Thursday night game against the Broncos, which was ugly, but they also had that 31-0 loss to the Chiefs.

Speaker 1 They got smoked by the Cowboys. This game was not of, I mean, it's 24-10, but it was against a guy who'd never started in the NFL.

Speaker 1 And the Browns have never won with their, you know, a quarterback having their first start for the Browns. And they got dominated.
Geno Smith was just sacked 10 times. 10 times.
He got hit 20 times.

Speaker 1 It's crazy.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it was not good.

Speaker 1 The Browns' defense is awesome. Imagine the Browns having

Speaker 1 halfway competent offense for a season. They would be a legitimate team.

Speaker 3 That's all they need. And now Stefanski says he is not committing to a starter for next week yet.
Oh, they got to commit to Shadori. But you got to keep it rolling with Shidor.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 The confidence he has and the way he talks,

Speaker 1 you would have thought he threw for 450 yards. You need somebody.
You had like a perfect game.

Speaker 3 You need somebody like Shador. Somebody that is just completely, irrationally overconfident in himself.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he said a lot of people want to see me fail. It ain't going to happen.

Speaker 1 He is right. A lot of people want to see him fail.
I love Shador and the fact that he is just the amount of takes on both sides is so...

Speaker 1 So awesome. We need someone like this.
He is a lightning rod. He's great.
It's great.

Speaker 3 And then Dion up there with his big-ass cowboy hat in the stands. That was nice to watch.
Yeah, what was it?

Speaker 3 The last 17 quarterbacks who've made their first starts for the Browns went winless. And then Shador broke the combo? Yep.

Speaker 1 Eric Zire in 1995 was the last time a Browns quarterback won his first career NFL start. That's pretty cool.

Speaker 3 For the Browns. That's nuts.
And then they showed the graphic on the screen of the Browns starting quarterback since whenever, 45,

Speaker 3 and the total number of United States presidents, 45. Mm-hmm.

Speaker 3 There were, listen, Browns fans, you know this.

Speaker 3 Cleveland is a punching bag. All the jokes coming at the quarterback position.
When you have somebody that wins a football game, you got to, you can't then take that person out until they lose. Yeah.

Speaker 1 No, you can't.

Speaker 3 You can't. You have to keep.
You're not allowed to let him keep playing football until he loses a game, and then you can have the conversation.

Speaker 3 But whatever happened today, you need that exact same thing to be the next product you see out on the field until you're proven that it can't win. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And listen, the Browns, they nailed their draft. Their draft, I mean, Mason Graham is awesome.

Speaker 3 Schwessingers might be good.

Speaker 1 Quinshawn Juckins, awesome. Rookie of the year.
Fannin has been good. Isaiah Bond has been good.
Dylan Sampson has been good. They, like, they're getting contributions from everyone they drafted.
It's

Speaker 1 the Browns are... They just, they're just a quarterback, and maybe it's, it's not Shador.
But maybe it's Shador.

Speaker 3 For now. For now, it's Shador.

Speaker 1 For now, it's Shador.

Speaker 3 It'd actually be great if Shador played pretty well for the rest of the season, went about 500, and then next year you bring somebody else in to be quarterback, and then everyone gets to demand that Shador plays again.

Speaker 3 Wow. Because he's going to get better the more you keep him on the bench in the fan base's eyes.

Speaker 1 Did you see who's on the sideline today? I did. John Watson.
I did. He's back.
He's traveling with the team. He might be back.

Speaker 3 How about this Jerry Judy play, though? Yeah.

Speaker 3 That's so stupid. That dot down the field that Shador threw.
And then Judy starts skipping. I don't know what he was doing.
I have no idea.

Speaker 3 He started to skip down the field and he lands from a skip, which was a great skip

Speaker 3 and gets the ball punched out.

Speaker 3 What is going on?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Can somebody explain to me what Jerry Judy was doing? Does anybody have any guesses?

Speaker 1 I don't think he knew the guy was behind him. No, I don't.
He was ready to make a move. No, he was trying to evade.

Speaker 3 100% didn't know the guy.

Speaker 1 He was ready to make a move. Oh.
Not knowing there was a guy right. Oh, yeah, yeah.
No, No, he was doing a skip to then do a cut. He was going to go up the sideline, I think.

Speaker 1 But there's three guys there.

Speaker 1 I don't know why he started skipping. I had no idea the guy was behind him, but Hank's right.

Speaker 1 He was going to do like a quick skip and then try to bolt down the sideline.

Speaker 3 Or a cut to the inside, maybe? Yeah.

Speaker 3 I don't know. It looked like he was just happy.

Speaker 1 He was

Speaker 3 overcome with joy during the play. Like, oh, shit.
We're throwing the ball downfield. I caught a pass.

Speaker 1 Wee. I get a question.

Speaker 1 So there's been a lot of talk about Bill Belichick this year. There has.

Speaker 1 And his situation at UNC is

Speaker 1 in a better spot than Pete Carroll.

Speaker 1 Belichick's teams have been competitive. He's got the love of his life.

Speaker 1 He gets to go.

Speaker 3 Competitive in what sense?

Speaker 1 UNC has been very competitive.

Speaker 1 Probably eligible. No, I know.

Speaker 1 They've been in almost every single game. They've actually played pretty decent football.

Speaker 1 Their offense stinks. But no, if you've been watching UNC, they have been covering spreads, almost winning games.
They almost beat Virginia. Should have beaten Virginia.

Speaker 3 They are a lot better in the second half of the season. They've gotten better.

Speaker 1 They're the definition of competitive in these games.

Speaker 1 He's got the love of his life. Chapel Hill, probably a very nice place, gets to wear Carolina Blue.
Pete Carroll is coaching. He's same eight 70s.

Speaker 1 I don't know if it is awesome living in Vegas in your 70s, and

Speaker 1 his team is dog shit.

Speaker 3 I think that, first of all, we need to put some respect on Jordan's name. I know that there was a lot of discussion about Jordan and her adult cheerleading competition that she was in.

Speaker 3 We also need to acknowledge the fact that they are world champions, that this is like a very, this is an elite

Speaker 3 adult cheerleading squad that she she

Speaker 3 somehow become a part of.

Speaker 1 We pointed to me for poo-pooing. I wasn't poo-pooing.
Well, I poo-pooed a lot. We were poo-pooing.
I poo-pooed hard. A little bit.

Speaker 1 Really hard poo-pooed.

Speaker 3 We didn't know that.

Speaker 3 Off there was such a thing as adult cheerleading at the time.

Speaker 1 I think if she didn't have the hair

Speaker 1 in that cheerleading episode.

Speaker 3 Oh, and she's suing Pablo Torre, too. She says.
That'll be.

Speaker 1 The hair is what.

Speaker 3 The discovery and the body. And the old guys going.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you know what? I'm going to keep poo-pooing. I'm going to keep poo-pooing that part.

Speaker 3 I can't wait for the discovery process.

Speaker 1 I will say she's been very funny online recently. Very funny.
She has. She's leaning into it.

Speaker 3 There was also that report that maybe the other members of the Belichick family weren't super happy.

Speaker 3 That maybe one of them laid into Jordan after the game.

Speaker 3 I'm just saying,

Speaker 1 love, love. But back to the question.

Speaker 1 I think Pete Carroll's living a worse life right now. I think he's just...
How can he be happy?

Speaker 1 His team is terrible.

Speaker 3 They're very bad.

Speaker 1 He could have just retired.

Speaker 3 I think that Vegas wouldn't be like the worst place in the world for an older person to live.

Speaker 1 It's too loud.

Speaker 3 There's a lot of golf around. Well, you don't have to go down to the strip.
They have buffets, like dinner buffets that start at 4 p.m.

Speaker 3 Get the Early Bird special. A lot of shows you can go to.
Too loud. Bingo everywhere.

Speaker 1 Yes, but to visit, yes. To live.

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 1 I just thought.

Speaker 1 I was just thinking about it. I think if Pete Carroll was dating a 24-year-old, it would be, we would have similar

Speaker 1 laughing at. Because the team, again, UNC is playing better football than the Raiders are.
That's a fact.

Speaker 3 The Raiders are big-time bummers to watch, and they got rid of all their good wide receivers. It just feels like they don't.
This is going to be like a tear down to the absolute studs. I know.

Speaker 3 I feel bad for Max Crosby.

Speaker 1 Put Max Crosby on the Browns. Imagine that.

Speaker 1 That'd be fun.

Speaker 3 That'd be so fun. Build the entire team out of defense.

Speaker 1 Yeah, just never let the other team score. Yeah, Brock Powers.
Brock Bowers, you just say, hey, Brock Bowers, we're really sorry how this is going.

Speaker 1 We're going to try to fix it. Please be patient because you're the only thing we have right now.
And Ashton Genty is just...

Speaker 1 The offensive line is not fair to Ashton Genty,

Speaker 1 but

Speaker 1 he's just

Speaker 1 not there right now. I mean, the offensive line is bad.

Speaker 3 The Raiders should almost consider just shutting Ashton Genty down.

Speaker 1 I got an answer. Okay.
Patriots, Cowboys. My friend Colin Wilson from the Action Network said Patriots by two on a neutral.
Pretty good. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Am I sharp?

Speaker 1 No, no. No, you said.
Not even close. You said Cowboys.
You're a colour. He's as round as a boy.

Speaker 3 Oh, yeah, you're right. I said, I did.

Speaker 1 You were the one who

Speaker 1 said Cowboys. Yeah.
You're a globe. I'm a globe.
I am the world. That was crazy.

Speaker 1 I think you were the only one who said Cowboys.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I forgot what side I took for a second.

Speaker 3 I would bet the fuck out of the Cowboys.

Speaker 1 You went so hard for me to get recency bias on the Cowboys comeback. You're like, they'd be favored over the Patriots.
But also just can't.

Speaker 1 I mean, I guess technically, if there was an emergency, but there are no neutral fields in the NFL. Well, I mean, Super Bowl.
Or just like the entire international series. Or any of the other fields.

Speaker 1 Yeah. All right.
There's a stupid, super, super, super super serious. Yeah, but you can just play any field.
Hank's going to get the game on the books. So we're going to play the game.

Speaker 1 So he's going to get the game. Yeah, I'm excited.

Speaker 3 They should play in Vegas like a bowl bowl game like just take the raiders off the schedule

Speaker 1 and find other teams play there yeah the raiders are very much in the i do not want to see them play football anymore camp throw them in there with the titans i still cam word every now and then will do something like oh that's fun raiders do nothing fun nothing at all zero

Speaker 1 okay

Speaker 1 next game jaguars at cardinals try as he might so jaguars won 27 24 try as he might trevor lawrence really really wanted to throw this game away four Four interceptions, some bad ones.

Speaker 1 Every time I looked up, it was just another. I thought he had three.
It was three? I think one of the pieces

Speaker 3 of the picks counted as a fumble. Okay.
Because it got like stripped out as a fall. Okay, so four turnovers.

Speaker 1 He just, every time I looked up, he was throwing an interception. And then he comes back and he throws that incredible ball to Parker Washington for the go-ahead for the lead late in the fourth.

Speaker 1 Cardinals come down and tie it. But that was a throw.
You're like, oh, that's why you keep coming back, throwing them open.

Speaker 1 But it was,

Speaker 1 I got to give credit to the Jaguars staying resilient after,

Speaker 1 again, it's got to be so demoralizing to have those type of turnovers to keep the Cardinals in the game. They win the game, though.
The Jaguars are 7-4. They're live in the AFC South.

Speaker 1 They're playing decent football. I'm going to say decent.
Yeah,

Speaker 3 they're playing tough football. Yeah.

Speaker 3 This is the Liam Cohen Let It Rip edition of Trevor Lawrence. Yeah.
He's letting it rip.

Speaker 3 I actually think that Trevor Lawrence is kind of a bummer to watch when he's not letting it rip. But when he is, he's so much fun.

Speaker 3 He's liable to have some weird fumbles, throw really stupid picks, but also when he's not like scared or overthinking things, he will do crazy shit that works too because he's still a very talented dude physically.

Speaker 3 Like he's fast when he wants to be. He can move laterally when he wants to.
He's got a cannon on his shoulder. He just needs to stop thinking and just let it rip.

Speaker 3 And when that happens, good things tend to happen for the Jaguars.

Speaker 1 They did let it rip into a linebacker a couple times.

Speaker 3 That's what happens when he lets it rip. You let it rip.
Let's it rip.

Speaker 3 Like, take the turnovers with Trevor, I don't think, cost you as much as the upside for the incredible throws that he can make when he's letting it rip.

Speaker 3 You're going to get some turnovers, and there will be some bad games. I don't know.

Speaker 1 This game tested that theory big time.

Speaker 3 There will be some bad moments. There will be some bad games, but when Trevor is truly letting it rip, I think the good slightly outweighs the bad.
And it's more exciting.

Speaker 3 So that's why I want him to let it rip more.

Speaker 1 The Cardinals, speaking of let it rip, are just saying, hey, Jacoby Brissette, you just throw it a million times a game. Yeah.
Which I guess is a strategy. They're not going to win.

Speaker 3 They can't really run the football.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's Jacoby Brissette. We said it.
Like, he's, in theory, a great backup, and then he gets in, and he might win a game, and then he starts losing games.

Speaker 1 But it can look good at times because

Speaker 1 he can run an offense. He threw it 49 times today.
He keeps just.

Speaker 1 I don't know what Jonathan gets. I don't really know what the Cardinals are doing other than just,

Speaker 1 let's finish this season.

Speaker 3 Yeah, so you know what's crazy is I mentioned this during the Boomers, but the Jaguars have now won three games in Pacific time this year.

Speaker 3 Going into this season,

Speaker 3 I believe their grand total of wins on Pacific time

Speaker 3 was four.

Speaker 1 Ever?

Speaker 1 Let me see

Speaker 3 what the stat was.

Speaker 1 Wait, this was a sad thing. Phoenix isn't Pacific Pacific time, though, is it?

Speaker 3 I believe that it is.

Speaker 1 I don't think it is.

Speaker 3 So, yeah, this is the.

Speaker 1 Arizona always gets weird because of daylight savings.

Speaker 3 This is the stat. Before this season, the Jags were 4-16.

Speaker 3 The Jaguars were 4-16 all-time in West Coast games, 3-0 this year.

Speaker 1 That's good. They have 3-0.

Speaker 3 But they had won four total of those games in their entire existence as a franchise until this season.

Speaker 1 Yeah, this game was not in Pacific time.

Speaker 3 Okay, so this was... Mountain Time.
Mountain Time. So the stat was wrong.

Speaker 3 But I guess West, you can just call it

Speaker 3 Phoenix West Coast. It's close enough.

Speaker 1 Not Pacific Time. You could.
Yeah. You'd be wrong, but you could.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 It's West Coast.

Speaker 1 It's not. West of the Rockies.
It's definitely not.

Speaker 3 It's West of the Rockies.

Speaker 1 So they should put it in Pacific Time then. They should.
They should call it like Ohio the East Coast?

Speaker 3 They should. They should call it.

Speaker 3 Hank's right.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 3 They should call it Pacific Time. Arizona needs to make up their mind.

Speaker 1 They do do weird shit with. No, they do.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 So sometimes of the year it is. But right now it's not.

Speaker 7 But right now it's not.

Speaker 1 Right now it's not. Yeah, wait, what do they do?

Speaker 1 I don't know. Are they always mountain time now?

Speaker 1 They're always mountain time. I think sometimes it's just two hours ahead, sometimes it's three hours ahead.
Well, then that wouldn't be mountain time.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Once again,

Speaker 1 this show has a lot of time.

Speaker 1 We're not a timely dumb right now. Time zones are tough.

Speaker 3 The bottom line is that the Jaguars have sucked when they travel west for their entire existence now they're now they don't necessarily suck when daylight standing time is in effect the time zones shift in mountains specific and pacific time move forward one hour

Speaker 1 yes what does forward mean does that mean that they would be pacific or does that mean they would be central the ultimate joke is on us every time we joke about the time change you have to remember that we're actually the ones that are the joke is on because we don't fucking know shit

Speaker 1 they're currently oh so they're currently observing mountain standard time yeah it's only Yeah, it's. Yeah, that's what Max was saying.
So I guess in the Pacific time.

Speaker 1 Well, no, we're in the fall. No, but like earlier in the fall, if they played in Arizona.
Well, we haven't changed the clocks yet. It would be Pacific time.
I think in the spring.

Speaker 1 He was shaking his head. We changed the clocks this next weekend? It's always the Saturday after Thanksgiving.
I think.

Speaker 1 Wait, wait.

Speaker 3 Hang on. What time is it in

Speaker 1 Phoenix? It says it right there. Yeah,

Speaker 1 I already did that. 9.55.
Yeah. Wait, that's one hour.
Yeah, yeah, that's one hour.

Speaker 7 But then ours would change too, so they wouldn't recognize our time.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 1 No, I like

Speaker 1 the clock.

Speaker 1 Go ahead. When we do change the clocks, whether that be next week or in the spring, they don't.
They don't. Yeah.
Yeah. So

Speaker 1 they become

Speaker 1 our

Speaker 1 trans-Pacific.

Speaker 3 Pacific. They're trans-Pacific.

Speaker 1 Yes. They always stay the same.
They're past. No, but we change.
Yeah, we change.

Speaker 3 Arizona doesn't.

Speaker 7 But then Pacific changes too.

Speaker 3 Yeah, Pacific changes, and they Pacific changes into Arizona.

Speaker 1 Are we sure that they don't change?

Speaker 7 Are you saying the clock runs to AZ?

Speaker 1 March to November, they have the same time as California.

Speaker 1 Yeah, November to March, they're the same time as Denver.

Speaker 1 They're POC time.

Speaker 1 Half Pacific. Except for the Navajos.
Oh, wow. We don't get it.
We can't get it.

Speaker 1 The Navajo Nation does not observe daylight savings. They remain on Mountain Standard Time all year.
I thought they don't. I thought.

Speaker 1 No, the Navajo Nation does not observe daylight savings. I thought the whole state doesn't observe daylight savings.
No, the Navajo Nation does not.

Speaker 1 All right, let's go to the next one. So in conclusion, the Jaguars...
No, Arizona also does not observe daylight savings. With the exception of the...
Oh, Navajo does.

Speaker 1 Navajo does observe daylight savings. Yeah, you were wrong.
I'm reading it here. I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 People are going to either love this part or hate this. I'm going to get this podcast.
I'm going to get off. It's probably

Speaker 3 just really a lot of love. Send this to the Golden Globes.

Speaker 1 This was the last.

Speaker 3 Yeah. I think this is episode number four of the football season where we just devolve into 10 minutes yelling about time zones.
Getting mad at clocks.

Speaker 1 I did like Liam Cohen saying we're not going to apologize for winning around here. Good.
No one should apologize for winning. It's a hard league to win in.
It doesn't matter how it looks.

Speaker 1 It can be bad. It can look gross.
Don't apologize for winning. Ever.
Ever. It would be funny if a coach did one day just being like, hey, I'm sorry about that, guys.
We actually suck. I'm sorry, one.

Speaker 3 It was a bad one.

Speaker 1 We just keep winning even though we suck.

Speaker 3 Yeah, but the Jaguars, they're in it, man. They're in it.
Seven and four.

Speaker 3 And they've got.

Speaker 3 Do they technically control their own destiny? Yeah, because

Speaker 1 they played the Colts twice, and I think the Colts have to play the Texans twice as well.

Speaker 1 So they're very much in it. They have the Titans this week.
Oh, yeah, wow. So the Jaguars, Hank, is live.
I know. The Jaguars play the Titans twice and the Jets, and then they have

Speaker 1 two games against the Colts and the Broncos. So they have three games that they should conceivably win, and these are the Jaguars.

Speaker 1 I know Jaguars fans are listening right now being like, do not say any game is a given win, but they have the Titans twice and the Jets. And then three hard games.

Speaker 1 And if they can go two and one in those,

Speaker 3 that could be a 12-win team.

Speaker 1 Jaguars.

Speaker 3 Jaguars are sitting pretty. They should win 10.
Good for the Jaguars.

Speaker 1 And let Trevor rip, right? Let him rip.

Speaker 3 Let him rip. Like, that's what...
I think Trevor needs to be reminded of that because he does get in his own head a lot.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there was a moment in the game where I was like, I don't know what's going on.

Speaker 1 Because it did feel like they should have put the Cardinals away easily, and then they just kept letting him back in the game.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it's not pretty pretty when he lets it rip sometimes, but that's okay. I think the biggest dumb picks guys that we got are Justin Herbert, Trevor Lawrence, and

Speaker 3 maybe Dak, but not today.

Speaker 1 No, they dropped.

Speaker 3 They dropped his dumb picks. Most of his dumb picks today were dropped.

Speaker 1 They tried. They really tried.
Okay, last game in the afternoon slate. Falcons 24, Saints 10.
I don't got a lot in this game except for Kirk Cousins. Look good.
He's back.

Speaker 1 They dot talk to Darnell Mooney.

Speaker 3 That was a nice pass. Beautiful pass.

Speaker 1 Blake Groupie's got to get off the Saints.

Speaker 3 That guy stinks. Or at least like him and Zion need to switch nutritionists.

Speaker 1 It's crazy, man. He's so bad.
He just misses every kick. And the Falcons' defense was good.
Like, the Falcons' defense, I know that they were going against Tyler Schuck, who is

Speaker 1 Pug with the water refills, who's a rookie quarterback. But the Falcons' defense,

Speaker 1 they just kept on getting pressure with four. They were forcing turnovers.
But it felt like the game was

Speaker 1 when

Speaker 1 the Kamara fumble,

Speaker 1 the handoff, Tyler Schecktz Kamara fumble happened early in the game. It was like, okay, this is going to be one of those Saints games.
And then they had the snap over Taysom Hill's head

Speaker 1 on the goal line. When we do our bad owners, we're going to put, what's his name on there?

Speaker 1 Who owns the Saints?

Speaker 3 That would be

Speaker 3 Miss What's Hame? Terry. Yeah, Miss Terry.
Miss Benson. Miss Benson.
Miss Benson. She's bad owner.
Bad owner. I got a question for you, big cat.
Gail Benson.

Speaker 1 You're on the clock, Gail.

Speaker 3 This offseason. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Is Kirk Cousins going to get a contract somewhere? Or is he going to retire?

Speaker 1 I think he's going to retire. Well, it depends on what he wants to do.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 If he wanted, let's see.

Speaker 1 I can see him being a backup somewhere.

Speaker 3 Let's say hypothetically, Kirk wants to keep playing.

Speaker 1 Yeah. You could do worse for backups.

Speaker 3 You could do a lot worse for a backup. I don't know if he wants to be worse.
He's good today.

Speaker 1 I'm happy that he had today.

Speaker 3 He is now at, I believe he's at like $320 million in career earnings. That's so sick.
Through the end of the season.

Speaker 1 That's so sick.

Speaker 3 Can we get him up to $330?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, he is a... Well, he might stay on

Speaker 1 the Falcons. I mean, Michael Pennix is, you have to say he has injury history.

Speaker 3 Like, he does.

Speaker 3 Did he tear his ACL? Partially torn. Okay.
So his...

Speaker 3 If they wanted to keep him, his cap hit would be $57 million. So my guess is they probably won't have.
They can cut him.

Speaker 1 They probably re-sign him. It's a better deal.
Cut him and then re-sign him.

Speaker 3 Yeah, they could. They could try to do that.
They could say, hey, let's renegotiate. Would you like to take $30 million less than what we originally planned to pay you?

Speaker 3 And if he says yes, then, okay, sign here, Kirk. But my guess is he's probably going to be cut.
And then

Speaker 3 I'm curious to see if he gets another contract, if he wants to keep playing.

Speaker 1 Well, I mean, if he wants to keep playing, like, Kyle Shin would sign him for backup.

Speaker 3 He's been dreaming about him. Yeah.
He's been dreaming. The Jets should they should sign him.

Speaker 1 But good for the Falcons. They obviously had lost a lot in a row, and they don't like the Saints.
Saints are a bummer. Saints are a bummer.
They're in that category as well.

Speaker 1 This is Wayne's Raiders bummer.

Speaker 3 This is what Cap-Hell looks like. Yep.
If you're a winning team and you say, you know what, I'm okay. Let's do Cap-Hell so that we can try to win now and extend this little window that we have.

Speaker 3 This Saints team, as it currently is constructed, this is a window into your future that you should look at and think, do I really want to do this? Yep.

Speaker 1 Okay, last game.

Speaker 3 We're at the point in the season, by the way.

Speaker 1 I know, I feel like Falcons and Saints fans don't care that we don't talk about them for more than two minutes.

Speaker 1 We're going to get to the point in the season where it's like, there's some of these games we're just going to have to breathe through. I'm happy for Falcons fans, though, to get a win.

Speaker 1 Although, do they want to win? I think they want to win.

Speaker 1 You want to be so embarrassing.

Speaker 3 I think a lot of them would rather lose so that

Speaker 3 they fire the coach. Oh.

Speaker 1 But the Rams have their first pick. Oh.
So yeah, then they should definitely want to win.

Speaker 3 Yeah, win.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Sunday Night Football.

Speaker 1 The Rams are the best team in the NFL. Does anyone disagree?

Speaker 1 Nope.

Speaker 1 Nope.

Speaker 1 I don't know who would make the case for any other team. Patriots? Right now.
No.

Speaker 1 They are.

Speaker 1 They absolutely.

Speaker 1 It was like a 15-minute game. 17-minute game.
It was over. It was just over.
And Baker got hurt, which sucks. But that was.

Speaker 1 Matthew Stafford was lights out, and then he just didn't have to play the second half. He was, he was, what did he start? He started the game.
Like, I don't think he had a.

Speaker 1 He started the game some ridiculous. Do you have it, Zach?

Speaker 7 Not off the top of my head, but Matthew Stafford is just a weapon.

Speaker 1 He's so good.

Speaker 1 They haven't played a competitive game in so long. And they've beaten.
Their two losses are the block kick with the Eagles, and

Speaker 1 they lost to the Niners

Speaker 1 when they fumbled on the one-yard line. Remember when they were down 23-20? They ended up going to overtime, but he fumbled on the Kyron Williams, fumbled on the one-yard line.

Speaker 1 Like, yes, you could obviously play that game with the Colts, too, because the Colts

Speaker 1 had A.D. Mitchell drop the ball and everything, but they're just better than everyone right now.
Their defense is ferocious. Matthew Stafford's the MVP of the league right now.

Speaker 1 What is the current odds on DraftKings? And Puka's the best. Devontae Adams is a perfect compliment.
They can do everything. I don't really know

Speaker 3 what their hole is. They're just destroying people.
They're destroying people. And their defense was so good tonight they ran out of sack celebrations to do.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the Bucs are not a bad team. I know the Bucs are spiraling right now and they're still injured, but they're not a bad team.
And they made them look like a bad team. What are the MVP odds?

Speaker 1 Matthew Savert's minus 200. Drake May is plus 200.
Oh, wow. Minus 215.

Speaker 1 Zach, what do you think?

Speaker 1 The Bucs should still go to the playoffs, but.

Speaker 7 I believe still playoffs.

Speaker 7 Defense kind of non-existent today. They're just getting burnt in the backfield, too.
And Matthew Stafford, just some of those pat like that that

Speaker 7 the second Adams touchdown, the thr it's the throws just beautiful. Like he's still Matthew Saver is still just one of them ones.

Speaker 7 The Baker injury kind of sucked. They brought him back out from the tent.
He got back in the game and then into first quarter.

Speaker 1 I didn't understand that. Yeah.

Speaker 7 Me neither. Like, if he's in the tent and we're already getting worked, just

Speaker 3 don't put him back in the game.

Speaker 3 This is exactly what happened to Baker in Cleveland. And you guys are a much smarter organization, so I don't think it's going to turn out the same way.
But Baker was good in Cleveland.

Speaker 3 Anyone who watched Baker was like, this is the best quarterback I've ever seen on the Browns. And then he hurt his left shoulder.

Speaker 3 And then he was like, I'm going to keep playing through it because I'm tough and I'm Baker Mayfield. And then he started to suck because he was injured.

Speaker 3 And the Browns were like, okay, keep going out there, Baker. You want to keep playing? All right, let's keep playing.
And then he sucked.

Speaker 3 And then the Browns were like, well, maybe we'll get the pervert and we can just make you expendable, Baker.

Speaker 3 That's what happened. And

Speaker 3 I think Tampa Bay is way smarter than that. I think that they realize that, like, yeah, Baker's injured.

Speaker 3 He's not going to be effective. Don't let him tell you that he's healthy enough to play because he's not.
Let him get healthy. If he needs surgery, he'll get the surgery.

Speaker 3 I don't think that they're going to fuck him up, but his left shoulder looked like it was pretty bad. Yeah,

Speaker 1 it was hanging when he was in the game.

Speaker 1 I don't understand it.

Speaker 7 Yeah, it's like he was playing through smaller injuries earlier in the season, and

Speaker 7 the Bucs have to make the decision not to let him hurt himself more because he'll just be like, I'm ready for game day. Let's go.

Speaker 7 This is not going to phase me. They got to be able to reel that in.
Like, hey, let's just pump the brakes. Let's think big picture.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And that, I mean, the K-Dott, the pick six was not his fault.
K-Dotton was just bobbling that ball down the field. Yeah.
But yeah,

Speaker 1 the Bucks got demolished. The Rams are the best team in the NFL.
I don't know. Are they peaking too early? I guess would be the only thing we have to ask.

Speaker 3 Remember when Matt Stafford wasn't going to play this year?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Hey, his back might be so bad that he might not be able to play football again. He's laying down on a table for six hours because he can't practice.
I think that McVay was just fucking with all of us.

Speaker 1 And guess what? Looking at the Rams,

Speaker 1 they have two hard games left, the Lions and at the Seahawks. The other games, they're going to be favored by a lot.
Panthers, Cardinals, Cardinals, Falcons.

Speaker 1 They could,

Speaker 1 they're cruising to the one seed. Yeah.
I mean, I guess, Max, good thing you have that Jalen Carter blocked field goal because

Speaker 1 that's a tiebreaker, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, but they're like,

Speaker 1 I don't see a loss on maybe a lot of people. You see

Speaker 1 at Seahawks. But yeah,

Speaker 1 they're just dominating. They're fucking awesome.

Speaker 1 They're fun to watch. And

Speaker 1 Matthew Stafford's

Speaker 1 when he's in the zone, he makes football look easy.

Speaker 3 And he was doing his lookaway passes.

Speaker 3 He was doing like the weird arm angles that make Dan Orlovsky come everywhere.

Speaker 3 It was a clinic.

Speaker 3 He's been lights out. Like, I can't.
Even in the losses, when he played,

Speaker 3 when they lost to the Eagles, I still think that Matt Stafford had a pretty good game, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, if I want to remember correctly, didn't their offense kind of go silent in the second half? Yeah.

Speaker 1 They kind of went away in the second half. They came out to a hard

Speaker 3 start.

Speaker 1 And, yeah, he wasn't his best game. But he's been good pretty much all year long.

Speaker 1 They have Rams. Rams.
Team to beat. Are they officially the team to beat? You don't want to have to go to SoFi in January.

Speaker 3 I think so. I think that they're, yeah, that no one goes to Los Angeles.

Speaker 3 Hard place to play. Good sports town.
I think, what are they? 8-3 against the spread this year?

Speaker 1 Yeah, they're killing teams.

Speaker 3 They're crushing people.

Speaker 1 Okay.

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Speaker 1 Do you guys want to talk about the Texans and Bills real quick? Yeah. Yeah.
Texans killed the Bills Defensively.

Speaker 3 That defense is awesome. That was.
Will Anderson just physically abusing people.

Speaker 1 Eight sacks. Also, shout out to Texans crowd.
That was a like that Deion Dawkins false start at the end of the game. That crowd was rocking.
Rocking. And Davis Mills, 3-0.

Speaker 1 I think CJ Stroud's coming back. 3-0 as a starter.
Saved the season.

Speaker 1 The Texans... Remember, are my pinky team.

Speaker 1 They're dangerous in the fact that I don't know, they can be in every single game because of their defense.

Speaker 3 So, you said earlier, like, what would it be like if the Browns had an average offense? Yeah. And that's kind of what the Texans are.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And they, I mean, they made Josh Allen look bad.

Speaker 1 He had a really tough night. They were kicking the shit out of him.

Speaker 3 I thought Josh died in the first half. Yes.

Speaker 3 Did he land on the ball, get the wind knocked out of him? He had two picks.

Speaker 1 He did not look good.

Speaker 1 The Bills' offense, I don't know why they went away from the run in that game, but that was an absolute ass-kicking and a true home field advantage.

Speaker 1 And yeah, the Texans, are they a team nobody wants to play?

Speaker 3 I don't think I'd want to play them. No.

Speaker 1 Hell no.

Speaker 3 If I was on defense, I might.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because then they still don't have a very good offensive line.

Speaker 3 What's going on with Keon Coleman? I don't know. Do we know? Because he was a healthy scratch second week in a row.

Speaker 3 Everyone assumed that he would be back because the Bills don't exactly have a great receiving core. So they would need a guy like Keon Coleman.

Speaker 3 Something weird is happening with him.

Speaker 1 Something is weird is happening with him. The Bills look like they're in some deep water.

Speaker 1 The playoff, I can't remember. I know we have

Speaker 1 every year there's obviously the playoff picture is fun to dissect, but there are

Speaker 1 a lot of teams in the mix, and there's also like a lot of really good teams that are fighting for their life, which is making the playoffs very, like, the Lions are not in the playoffs right now.

Speaker 1 The Chiefs are not in the playoffs right now. The Texans are not in the playoffs right now.
There's some good teams that are sitting there and they're just going to have to fight their way in.

Speaker 1 I'm excited for some home stretch football here.

Speaker 3 The Athletic has the Bills at 82% to make the playoffs.

Speaker 3 Still 77%

Speaker 3 to win the division, but that looks like that's going to be the Patriots no matter what.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 3 I think the Bills are going to make the playoffs, and nobody in Buffalo is going to be like, this is our year. No.

Speaker 1 And then the Texans are, if they make the playoffs, watch the fuck out because that defense, there's something about watching a defense like that where

Speaker 1 just, it's not just the fact that they're getting stops. They're just getting violent stops.
They got violent.

Speaker 1 James Cook got a 45-yard touchdown run. Other than that, they kept the Bills offense, which is one of the most explosive offenses in the NFL, out of the end zone.
Just suffocated them.

Speaker 1 Beat the fuck out of them. So congrats to the Texans.
I know everyone should tune into the case race on Wednesday. It was very fun.
Do you want to hear more about that game? We watched it live. Yep.

Speaker 1 We watched it live while we were drunk.

Speaker 3 We had some real genuine reactions to it. Yeah.
Hank was just devastated.

Speaker 1 So devastated. Everything's breaking your way right now, Hank.
What do you mean?

Speaker 1 I'm just saying like the fact that the Bills lost on Thursday night, the Colts might be, I guess the Chiefs winning is not breaking your way. You don't want the Chiefs in there.
No.

Speaker 1 But if we get a buy, then that's all we want. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Were you devastated that the Bills lost, or were you devastated when you found out the four quarterbacks that have beaten the Bills this year?

Speaker 1 No, I don't care about that at all. Why would I care about that? Okay.

Speaker 3 You seemed upset in the moment. I just didn't know if.

Speaker 1 There's only one buy check.

Speaker 1 There's only one buy. I know.
Okay. That's what I'm saying.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 If you get to buy. If we get the buy, yeah.
If we don't get the buy, then the Chiefs are going to be right in our radar. They're going to be right in your fucking grill mix.

Speaker 1 Moms.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Reminder, we have a show on Wednesday this week. No show Friday.
We're going to do an extra long show though Wednesday for anyone who has to work. Let's finish up the show with who's back of the week.

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Speaker 1 I got addicted to airdrops because Wisconsin won Wisconsin's hottest team in the country.

Speaker 1 They've won two

Speaker 1 home games against ranked opponents in November. Pretty cool.
So I got a little addicted and I just started airdropping everywhere.

Speaker 1 But yeah, everyone who enjoyed the Twisted T's on me. Yeah,

Speaker 1 listen, we bullied Illinois. We bullied Illinois.
And I don't give a fuck if the kids go on the field. People are just gatekeeping that.
It's the dumbest thing ever.

Speaker 1 It's just a bunch of people who are sitting at home just being like, I wish I was in college.

Speaker 3 What, for the Field Stormers? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, it's so embarrassing to Fieldstorm.

Speaker 1 It was senior night. Yeah.

Speaker 1 The kids at Wisconsin who are seniors were promised a good football experience for their four years. They've gotten dog shit.

Speaker 3 There's probably a lot of fans that haven't had the opportunity to storm the field before.

Speaker 1 Well, they did two weeks ago against Washington, but still.

Speaker 3 This is their senior nights.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, they've. I also just, what does it hurt anyone? It looks like the funnest time.
You go get fucked up. You make a memory with your friends.

Speaker 1 It does zero bad things to the world.

Speaker 1 All right, Hank, your Who's Back of the Week? My Who's Back of the Week is Jack Hughes Dinners. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 So Jack Hughes, New Jersey Devil star. He was recently in Chicago and went out to dinner with Frank the Tank.
Yeah. Barshall's very own Frank the Tank.
How'd that go?

Speaker 1 At that dinner, Jack Hughes cut himself and was put on the injury list. I think he's out for the

Speaker 1 unintentionally.

Speaker 1 But that was just a very Fleming curse, very funny moment. But

Speaker 1 this past week, he was out to dinner with Tate McRae.

Speaker 1 And she is

Speaker 1 pop star. Okay.

Speaker 3 Popular? Member of Tank's Army. Extremely popular.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's crazy. You don't know who Tate McCray.

Speaker 1 I honestly don't believe you. I've heard her name.
What's her song?

Speaker 3 She's very talented.

Speaker 1 Yeah, memes damn. What's the song, memes? Give me a song.
Sing it. I don't know.
You were singing it. I was saying, love me, love me.
Say that, you love me. What is the song? She's got lots of songs.

Speaker 1 Give me one song. Pink.

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 That's Chappelle Rone. I know that.

Speaker 1 I've heard of her. I don't know what song.

Speaker 1 All right, I don't think I know anything.

Speaker 1 Yeah, okay, I don't know.

Speaker 1 no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 Is she the one that Connor Griffin's obsessed with? X. Yeah.
Yeah. Okay.
All right. I know who she is now.
I thought that was Spirit.

Speaker 1 Her as well. I thought it was Olivia Rodrigo.
Her as well.

Speaker 1 He's just got. So that was actually a bad question.
He's just horny. Obsessed with all these girls.

Speaker 1 She's a dancer.

Speaker 1 But she's a singer. I think she was like a comp.
Yes.

Speaker 1 She's Britney Spears. Britney Spears, yes.
Britney Spears was a big thing.

Speaker 3 Britney Spears was a big thing.

Speaker 1 I know what Britney Spears is. No, but

Speaker 1 they say that she's the next person.

Speaker 1 Oh, God.

Speaker 3 Okay, the next person.

Speaker 1 A lot of Britney. Got it.
I got to hear one of her songs.

Speaker 1 I probably know it, but I don't know it off the top. You want me to play a song and then we cut it? Yes.

Speaker 1 All right. Why are you going on Twitter? I don't know.
That was stupid. I'll play one.
Just click on.

Speaker 1 Play the fucking song.

Speaker 1 Tate McRae.

Speaker 1 Should we have a great song.

Speaker 3 Any song.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 this one. I don't think I know that one.

Speaker 1 We're going to play this one.

Speaker 3 She's got a thing for Zambonis?

Speaker 3 She's hockey.

Speaker 1 Big hockey. From Canada.
Nope.

Speaker 1 Yeah, this one's a banger.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Okay, we listened to a song, I do not know her songs, but she seems talented

Speaker 3 and good for Jack Hughes.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's back. His dinners are back.
He said,

Speaker 1 she does the other one where it's like, all my exes live in Texas. That's so funny.
All my exes. They live in Texas.
They know nothing about me.

Speaker 1 I'm makeup and a ton of people. Wow, that's a hanging.
She seems very talented.

Speaker 3 Great artist. Great dinner guest.
Jack Hughes knows how to pick him.

Speaker 1 Would you rather go to dinner with her or Frank Fleming?

Speaker 1 Definitely Frank. Definitely Frank.
100%. There's no doubt about it.

Speaker 3 I'm not a creep, bro. Yeah.
What is she, like, 20?

Speaker 1 Yeah. How old is she?

Speaker 1 At least 21. Yeah.
Oh, okay. Thank you.
22. 22.

Speaker 3 Yeah, no, I would not.

Speaker 1 What would I talk to a 22-year-old with at dinner? I think 22-year-old girl, what would I talk to her about?

Speaker 3 You just, you say. Nothing.

Speaker 1 There's nothing that we have in common.

Speaker 3 You say 6-7 once, and then she kind of laughs out of pity, and then you try to say it again because you're like, oh, she liked it the first time, and then she gets up and leaves.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It would be a bad dinner.

Speaker 3 I would not have anything in common with Tate McRae.

Speaker 1 Okay, PFT.

Speaker 3 My who's back of the week is the hungry dog.

Speaker 1 Did it hit?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 3 Two out of three hit.

Speaker 3 Two out of three hit. Yeah, so, but I had a hungry dog that was back this week.
Blake caught a rabbit for the first time, and he. So Blake is back.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he, well,

Speaker 3 no, Hank, just wait, just wait. He ended up eating like half the rabbit.
The dog walked. Your dog's a murderer.

Speaker 3 Could not get the rest of the rabbit out of Blake's mouth. And she was like, does this dog, like, is there anything? What are the best treats that

Speaker 3 we can try to get it? So we used the freeze-dried chicken. We used the bully sticks.
He would not drop the rabbit.

Speaker 3 Until he saw his favorite toy,

Speaker 3 which was the Hank doll.

Speaker 3 And Blake drops the rabbit. Yeah, I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 I couldn't have prevented a murder.

Speaker 1 Dropping this week on the Barshall store. Yeah.
Bing, bing, bing, bro.

Speaker 3 It's incredible.

Speaker 3 He is addicted to this Hank doll. He's addicted to it.
To the point where he will drop fresh meat and instead play with his friend Hank, which I think is just

Speaker 1 beautiful. It's a beautiful thing.
Is he going to try and kill me when he sees me?

Speaker 3 No, no, he was just like nibbling on it, squeaking the squeaky toy.

Speaker 1 The rabbit wasn't as lucky.

Speaker 3 No, the rabbit wasn't.

Speaker 3 But I think that's an awesome thing that you've got dogs that just love you do you think it's an awesome thing that your dog's a murderer i mean he was protecting who knows what those rabbit

Speaker 3 what they can be up to

Speaker 3 sounds like just they could spread disease bad parenting but that's just me okay well i just thought that it was sweet and they are available your dog killing a rabbit is sweet no him wanting to go for the for the hank toy but the rabbit part's not sweet well the rabbit listen the rabbit knew what it did What did it do?

Speaker 3 It just exists? It was on his territory. It can't exist.
It was on his territory.

Speaker 1 Was it on a walk? It's instinct.

Speaker 1 Was Blake on a walk?

Speaker 3 It was in his vicinity. So yeah.
And he was taunting him.

Speaker 3 Yikes. He was taunting him.

Speaker 1 You got a killer on your hands. Got a killer.

Speaker 3 But he dropped it because he saw his best friend Hank and he was reminded of beauty and love in this world and friendship.

Speaker 1 And that sucked all the life out of him. And friendship.

Speaker 3 And then he was like, I'm going to play with my best friend Hank again, which I truly love. So thank you for that.

Speaker 3 For that great gift that you've given all of us on the show and soon to share with the entire world when the Hank Doy comes out on Friday.

Speaker 3 No problem.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Go get it.
Thanks, Hank. Okay, my who's back of the week is rivalry week because we have a great college football slate this week.

Speaker 1 And we also had no change to the top of the rankings because everyone won this past weekend. So we're probably not going to have any difference.
Do you guys cover?

Speaker 1 JMU. We won.
We won. They did not cover.
That's probably bad for the rankings.

Speaker 3 Oh, it's crazy.

Speaker 3 We beat Washington State by more than Ole Miss beat Washington State by, and also more than you.

Speaker 1 You guys are like heavy favorites, all right?

Speaker 3 Well, there's a couple touchdowns, but I I mean, this is a tough team. They're second place in their division, Hank.

Speaker 1 They're in a two-team division.

Speaker 1 They lost their only conference. Hank would have gotten their game.
He would have gotten their conference. I would never have gotten there.
They lost their only conference game.

Speaker 1 They got a rematch, though, coming up. Yeah, home and home.

Speaker 1 But yeah, we're going to see. Everything comes out in Ohio State, Michigan.
We had that USC Oregon game was great. Oregon looked good.
for the first time in a while.

Speaker 1 They've been struggling a little bit. Winning games, but struggling.
And yeah, and we'll also find out where Lane Kiffen's going.

Speaker 1 Do you think we're going to find out where Lane Kiffen's going before or after the Egg Bowl?

Speaker 3 I think before. I do just before because it seems like Ole Miss has kind of put enough is enough timer in place.
It's an egg timer. Totally fair.

Speaker 3 Being like, hey, you got to make your choice because we hear a lot of stuff that you're doing right now, Lane. And I feel like Lane is getting off on the will here, won't he? He's having fun.

Speaker 1 I like that he's having fun.

Speaker 1 He makes college football fun.

Speaker 3 So his family has spent time, allegedly, in Baton Rouge and Gainesville recently.

Speaker 3 He's gotten to the point where he's now fucking with the flight tracking community and sending planes up in the air that are then being diverted to and from Baton Rouge at a moment's notice in order to just throw the whole scent off the operation.

Speaker 1 I love it. It's great.

Speaker 3 I think he's probably going to leave. I'm changing my.
I know I said like two weeks ago I didn't think he was going to leave.

Speaker 3 I feel like it's gotten to the point where if I had to guess, I would say LSU. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It's going to be interesting, though, this last week because we're going to have a lot of...

Speaker 1 There could be multiple two-loss teams that are getting left out with the fact that everyone won, and, you know, like Oklahoma has two losses they're in right now, but Vandi, Miami, BYU only has one loss.

Speaker 1 They'll play in a conference championship game if they take care of business. The ACC is still a mess.
Duke is still alive. Six-team Chaos still alive.

Speaker 3 Is it possible for the six-team tie still?

Speaker 1 I think so. I think everything happened.

Speaker 3 I think that, yeah, a lot's going to have to do with the UVA Virginia Tech game. If Tech can pull an upset, then things get really crazy.
Yeah. But yeah,

Speaker 1 it's the dumbest league, and it's very funny. And Pat Narduzzi, when he tells you all he cares about his last two games, believe him.

Speaker 3 He's absolutely right.

Speaker 1 Because what he did to Georgia Tech, they did not care about that Notre Dame game at all. But yeah, I'm excited.

Speaker 1 Feast week is the best. You got college basketball.
You got NFL. You got college football.
It's just everything's happening.

Speaker 3 Michigan, Ohio State is going to be 11.5 point dogs, Michigan.

Speaker 1 I think I have to bet Michigan out of respect, even though I think Ohio State is going to win. But

Speaker 1 just bet every underdog in Rivalry Week.

Speaker 1 So it's going to be fun. I'm excited.

Speaker 3 I will not be betting on Texas.

Speaker 3 Yeah. AM, I feel like.

Speaker 1 AM has nothing to play for. Texas, they have someone to play for, obviously, but they don't.
Their season is

Speaker 1 set.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? Like, they're not going going to get kicked out of the playoffs if they lose this game.

Speaker 3 Arch had his I Do Everything game.

Speaker 3 So Texas hasn't looked bad, but I feel like, I don't know, I feel like this is the year the Texas AM just slices their throat.

Speaker 1 At Texas, though. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Austin's half filled with Aggies anyways. It's weird.
Wearing their rings around.

Speaker 1 Texas two and a half point dogs. Okay, Zach, finish us off.

Speaker 7 My who's back of the week today is the guys over at Optic Texas, Dashi Shotzi, Merculius, and Hook. Who?

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 7 The guys over at Optic Texas, Professional Call of Duty team. Okay.

Speaker 1 Dashy Shotzi. Now, did they stream?

Speaker 7 Dashy Shotzi.

Speaker 7 There was a couple POVs, yes, sir.

Speaker 1 Did they stream yesterday?

Speaker 7 They had some POVs up while they were in the tournament, the Monster Imitation. Did Bush stream?

Speaker 1 This is the preseason.

Speaker 7 It's a pro-am, though. First pro-am on the on the new title.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean?

Speaker 7 So you get to see the guys on the new game. And it was more so like

Speaker 7 just, they didn't lose a map until the finals.

Speaker 1 I'm just a Bush game.

Speaker 1 This is like when pro teams go to China and play the local teams. Yeah, when Manchester United plays here in the summer.

Speaker 1 Zach, I'm a Bush Gaming fan, and I was just looking for their stream yesterday, and I couldn't find it.

Speaker 7 In that bracket, tough pool, first map, you know, they had play thieves, took them to map five, and then tough pool against Miami Heretics. They got got 0-3 there.

Speaker 1 What are you saying makes sense?

Speaker 3 Just a little piece of business advice. Yes, sir.

Speaker 1 You should make a public offer to Kyler Murray.

Speaker 7 Public offer, you think?

Speaker 3 Yeah, just be like, hey, we've extended an offer to Kyler Murray. Just to get your name out there.

Speaker 1 Ballpark, how big? Doesn't matter.

Speaker 3 He's small.

Speaker 1 I don't think Kyler Murray likes Barstool sports.

Speaker 3 No, he definitely doesn't. Yeah, but it's about making the offer.

Speaker 1 He'll be blocked for a very long time. I think he has every single person.
It's about making the offer.

Speaker 1 Anyone who's ever called him short, I'm pretty sure, is blocked. Yeah, it was that Rams playoff game when I was like, he's too short for the playoffs, and then he blocked me.

Speaker 1 Unblocked a part of my ticket count. He unblocked it? Yep.
Oh. Okay, so maybe he's back.

Speaker 1 Let me see. He was blocked.
We were blocked at one point, right? Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Big time.

Speaker 1 Oh, you'd make it sound like we were so blocked. Memes were probably making a lot of memes about it.
A bunch of memes about him being short. I'm still blocked.

Speaker 1 I don't think I was ever blocked. Still blocked by Deshaun Watson.
That one we can

Speaker 1 wear as a badge of honor. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Good show, boys. I don't.
Zach,

Speaker 1 what does any of that mean?

Speaker 7 It was just

Speaker 7 the new title came out, so new game, and there's a pro-am. So pro teams, amateur teams came together.

Speaker 1 Here's my question, Zach. Did you have fun?

Speaker 7 Did I have fun? Yeah. I enjoyed watching it.
And there you go.

Speaker 1 I'm happy that you're happy. Also, how was your sleeping this weekend?

Speaker 1 It's okay. What were your shifts like?

Speaker 7 Shifts?

Speaker 1 Yeah, like Friday night. What time did you go to bed? Well, Friday night

Speaker 7 had pop punk.

Speaker 3 Got home about 1:30.

Speaker 7 I played the game for a little bit with the boys. That was good.
Probably went to bed around 5.

Speaker 7 We were having a lot of fun. Yeah.
And then they brought Newtown back.

Speaker 7 Big hit. Double XP Weekend.
Shout out to Dublin's P weekend. Okay.

Speaker 7 Then yesterday.

Speaker 1 Wait, what time did you wake up on Saturday?

Speaker 7 Saturday woke up

Speaker 7 probably like 10. Okay.

Speaker 1 It's not a lot of sleep.

Speaker 7 And then it was straight back to the game. Love that.
It was a beautiful day out. Window open, breeze coming through.
So nice. That breeze was nice.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And then what about

Speaker 1 today?

Speaker 1 You're basically outside all day. What time did you stay up till last night?

Speaker 7 Not too late. Not too late.
Like

Speaker 1 one.

Speaker 1 Okay. Yeah.
And then what time did you wake up today?

Speaker 7 Probably woke up

Speaker 1 11.30, 12 o'clock. Oh, that's not a bad.

Speaker 3 I heard that you sent a text at 3.30 in the morning over the weekend saying, my bad, I just woke up from a nap.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, okay. Yeah.

Speaker 7 There was a nap shift in there.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 3 That was tough.

Speaker 3 From what time to what time was your nap? That was...

Speaker 7 So the nap would have been like

Speaker 7 9 to

Speaker 7 like 9 to one nine to two something like that that's sleep you went to sleep

Speaker 7 leave it on leave the mic on oh got you yeah it's like nine to two quick nap what happened was i lay down

Speaker 7 nine to two is not a nap well i laid down and watch a little tv and i'm i don't i go either bed for tv or desk so when i lay down and watch tv and just relax when i'm not wanting to be on the game for a little bit i sometimes fall asleep right because it's bedtime yeah nine to nine to two is is that's sleeping but then once you wake up there's no going back to sleep for a couple hours well yeah you could just roll over and go back to sleep i messed it up every time.

Speaker 1 Every single time. So you just got back on the sticks? Yeah, we got straight back to the sticks.

Speaker 7 Because my boy Gabe gets off work around 1:30, so he's texting me like, hey, it's go time. And I'm like, all right, round two, let's go.

Speaker 1 Well, you should have said the Gabe part is pretty important. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 7 He works,

Speaker 7 he runs a restaurant or a golf course that closes late. So when he's down to fire, I'm always down to fire with the boys.

Speaker 7 Yeah, you gotta, you gotta. Can't leave the boys hanging.
No, can't.

Speaker 1 Okay, good show, boys. We'll see everyone on Wednesday, and that will be an extra long show for Thanksgiving.

Speaker 1 Numbers. Three.

Speaker 1 Good job, Memes. Yeah.
Go 21. He's not even trying to get it anymore.
I mean, I am. It's just he's

Speaker 3 so quick. I'll go 31.

Speaker 1 You don't have Hezzy anymore. 83.
I'll Hezzi for you. What did you guess? 22.
I'll go 21. 99, Pug.
Wow.

Speaker 7 71.

Speaker 1 44.

Speaker 3 95.

Speaker 1 Memes does get excited for every single one. I think it's going to be the one.

Speaker 1 Oh, nine!

Speaker 1 Oh, nine. Shout out nine.
Oh, nine. Nine.
JJ McCarthy. There he is.
It was, what was it? What's James's number? It was James' number last Sunday. 19.
Last Sunday. This year.

Speaker 1 It's always a song.

Speaker 3 You want to do one more? Yeah, we'll do one more.

Speaker 1 Also, Texas A ⁇ M does have something to play for. What? They lose their shit.
Yeah, the SCC championship. But is that...
Some people call it the... called bigger than Nash Champion.
But would you...

Speaker 1 at this point? Would do you want to play in the championship game? I think so. I think so too, but it's also just another chance to.
Like, the championship games are going to be in trouble soon.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, they're gone within the next two years. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, just being like, hey, you're already in the playoff. Go play an extra game if you're in the SEC or Big Ten.

Speaker 3 Yeah, who cares?

Speaker 1 Yeah, especially they said it doesn't matter towards the playoff rack. And obviously, you would rather have a buy,

Speaker 1 but the home playoff game is crazy money for the school in the city.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think they should just expand to like 32 teams. No.

Speaker 1 Why not?

Speaker 1 Why not?

Speaker 4 Every conference gets a bid. Automatic.

Speaker 3 Sunbelt, Mac.

Speaker 1 Memes. All right, I'll tell you why not.

Speaker 1 All right, every lottery ball. Yeah, this week.
SMU? I don't need to see SMU playing in more playoff games.

Speaker 1 It's good for schools like JMU.

Speaker 3 It is.

Speaker 1 So I don't have to keep losing their coach.

Speaker 1 Why am I getting all right? Numbers.

Speaker 1 Why'd you redirect that at me, man? Is everyone sticking with their number? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Here comes 30.

Speaker 1 37.

Speaker 1 Means you're never going to get it.

Speaker 3 Love you guys.

Speaker 1 You're never going to get it. Oh, he's getting close to Hank.

Speaker 3 Hey guys, back at the playground again, huh?

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 3 You know what this playground could use?

Speaker 1 A wine country. Heck yeah, and some waves, so we could go surfing on it.

Speaker 1 Love that.

Speaker 2 A redwood forest would be cool.

Speaker 3 I'm in.

Speaker 1 Ah, ski slopes. Let's do it.
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