Rick Pitino In Studio, Super Bowl Champ Cooper DeJean, USA/Canada's Incredible Four Nations Final + Fyre Fest of The Week

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Speaker 1 On today's part of my take, we have a twofer for the people. We have coach Rick Petino in studio.
He stopped by on Wednesday before his game against DePaul, talking St. John's, a little horse racing.

Speaker 1 We also have Super Bowl champ Cooper DeGene. We're also going to talk some USA Canada Four Nations.
Max is on vacation after vacation week. So we have guest producer Oldie in the studio.

Speaker 1 If you tuned into our stream, you saw a lot of Oldie. You saw a lot of Oldie.
So we'll get his thoughts as well. He's from Canada.
We flew him in today to watch with us.

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Speaker 1 And congratulations to Canada for winning the All-Star game.

Speaker 9 Yeah, you won the All-Star game. I don't know.
I saw a lot of people talking about it tonight, but I mean, the NHL All-Star game. I think

Speaker 9 we can just talk about MLB is doing robot ops. You want to start with that? Sure.

Speaker 1 I mean, I can't remember the last time an All-Star winner was like anyone cared. No.

Speaker 1 You know what? Also, I don't know if we said this, but congratulations to Team Shaq. Yeah, we didn't hear it.
Team Shaq, we should talk about Team Shaq.

Speaker 1 I know it's been a week, but we finally watched the tape. Team Shaq really put it on in the NBA All-Star game.
They were incredible.

Speaker 9 I can't wait to see the rematch of Team Shaq and Team Chuck.

Speaker 1 Oh, rivalry for ages.

Speaker 1 And did the NFC win the Pro Bowl?

Speaker 9 I don't know because we boycotted that.

Speaker 1 Okay, because we're just doing all All-Star game talk because

Speaker 1 that's where we're at in sports. Who cares about any of these games?

Speaker 9 Major League Baseball. Who can forget what happened last season? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Who could forget? Truly.

Speaker 1 I would never forget. Would you?

Speaker 9 I mean, I just remember when the MLB All-Star game ended as a tie, and everyone was like, good. Thankfully, this game's over.
We can move on. It's an exhibition.
We don't care.

Speaker 1 Who cares? Right, Hank? Exactly.

Speaker 1 Preseason football. Should we talk about that? Like, who cares?

Speaker 9 No, but congratulations to Canada.

Speaker 9 It's really...

Speaker 1 Holdie's doing the

Speaker 1 cry face in the behind-the-glass at Max's seat.

Speaker 9 Congrats to Canada. My takeaway from this game.

Speaker 1 The Cubs won today. Oh, yeah.
There we go. Spring training.
Yeah. Baseball's back.

Speaker 9 My takeaway from this game is that Austin Matthews has become too Canadian. And that's why we lost the game.
Yeah. Because he's a Maple Leaf and Maple Leafs never win anything.
And we saw that.

Speaker 9 We saw why the Maple Leafs never win anything with Austin Matthews trying to finish in overtime, just getting robbed gloves side by Bington, who was the best player.

Speaker 9 Oh, he was the reason why they won.

Speaker 1 The overtime, first of all, it was an incredible hockey game.

Speaker 1 Just so well played, high intensity for an all-star game. And Bennington was just insane in the overtime because

Speaker 1 the U.S. should have won the All-Star game multiple times.
Yes.

Speaker 1 And if they had won the All-Star game, we would have started the show the exact same way saying, congrats to the U.S. for winning in All-Star.

Speaker 9 In the exhibition game. Right.

Speaker 1 And who cares? Yeah, I mean,

Speaker 9 honestly, I'm looking forward to the Olympics. Yeah.

Speaker 1 The Olympics. That's what it's all about.

Speaker 9 Because you know what? Right. International hockey game's a little bit different.
Rosters are going to be a little bit different. Yep.
More spaced out. Yep.
It's like that's true international hockey.

Speaker 1 Taking pictures with memes like he's in front of the Statue of Liberty right now.

Speaker 1 You're absolutely right. This is just, I mean, as far as I'm concerned, that was game two of a three-game series.

Speaker 9 Well, if they really wanted, if they cared about this game, if you can just ask the players on the ice, if they really cared about who won this game, they would have fought in the first period.

Speaker 9 Agreed. And in that type of game, I think the U.S.
would win.

Speaker 1 Exactly. So we do have Oldie here.
He has been with us all day. When I say all day, I mean literally all day.
He showed up at the office at 10 a.m. Puck Drop wasn't until 7:30.

Speaker 1 He is Canadian, former trash man, blue-collar guy.

Speaker 1 Salt man now. Saltman friend.

Speaker 9 Keeping the roads clean.

Speaker 1 Yeah, doing a little boney on the side. Doing a little Zamboni working for the town.
Oldie,

Speaker 1 how did you see that game? Give us your thoughts. Unload your thoughts on that game.
Well, I know I said like before, I knew I wasn't nervous about it. I knew the boys were going to be bump and grind.

Speaker 1 I called 4-2.

Speaker 1 Like, I called 4-2 earlier, manifested it. I was sitting on the couch.

Speaker 9 What was the final score?

Speaker 1 3-2. Okay, so you were wrong.
So I was wrong, but I mean, if we're counting numbers here, that's only now got to be off by one. Right.

Speaker 1 But you were

Speaker 1 strong math. That's a problem.
Well, who was the other picklestick in the corner sitting behind me?

Speaker 9 TJ? No, titty boy, Mark Titus. Yeah, titty boy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's calling 9-3, like we're out here playing a football game or something. Well, I mean, like

Speaker 1 four field goals kicked or something. I don't know.

Speaker 9 Paul Bizonette, I think he predicted 6-2, right? 6-2. So he was wrong, too.

Speaker 1 So that's actually the biggest takeaway is that, Oldie, you were wrong about this game. So I lied.
I straight up lied about it.

Speaker 1 Like I'm sitting here telling you guys a whole story about 4-2 and it ends up being 3-2. Yeah.
That's not what happened.

Speaker 9 What did you think about the way that it ended? McJesus,

Speaker 9 he won an all-star game.

Speaker 1 Turns out he's not the biggest loser for now.

Speaker 9 Talk to me when he does it in the Stanley Cup finals.

Speaker 1 See, the All-Star game wasn't talked about on the podcast. It was Four Nations.
We talked about the Four Nations, and now all of a sudden it's an all-star game.

Speaker 1 I'm not familiar with what you're saying.

Speaker 9 Wait, was Russia playing?

Speaker 1 The Four Nations. Four Nations.
Yeah, you guys brought up the Four Nations, Four Nations.

Speaker 1 Like, we're the guys, like, you know what I i mean and then all of a sudden now it's an all-star game yeah well what happened what was it was you guys not drinking

Speaker 1 yeah i mean ov wasn't playing how serious is this tournament if you're putting the best players out there right but maybe you guys weren't drinking enough body armor i don't have to tell you that's true you had a lot of body armor you guys weren't getting the

Speaker 1 energy was not there from you guys like i i had i had p i had pft no no you go with

Speaker 1 i had poly p out there sipping around and telling me trying to shake my hand and then you got old brady there shit shit taker. Oh, Brady, yeah, Brandon, yeah, but Brad Brady.

Speaker 1 Brady, to me, I don't know. I don't know, Brandon.
I don't know Brandon. I know Brady.

Speaker 9 If you didn't watch the stream, I give it my highest possible recommendation to go back and watch at least the highlights from the stream.

Speaker 1 The best stream we've ever done.

Speaker 9 Because Oldie's...

Speaker 1 Oldie put on a performance for the ages. Oh, he has a pussy.
And he's got some side.

Speaker 1 It's a side, though, because I do have the other.

Speaker 1 He has something.

Speaker 9 He has something that grows in the front of his legs that when he pulls his jeans up looks either like two giant nuts on either side or like the biggest camel toe you've ever seen. It's a beaver toe.

Speaker 9 You got two beaver tails sticking out.

Speaker 1 They're not jeans, though, Pete. I got to stop you there.
They're jangings.

Speaker 1 They're janggings. Now, Oldie, I got a question for you from the Canadian perspective.
Like, it's your sport. You invented it.
Like, do you even get credit for winning your sport?

Speaker 1 I mean, it's not even in an all-star game. Like, you should have won.
Basically, it's like a wash, right? It's like, whatever. This is what we do anyways.
Right. Exactly.

Speaker 1 You're just kicking ass sea bass. Like, you know what I'm saying? Right.
So it doesn't even matter. Camels got nothing on that.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 You guys bare, I mean, you barely won in your own sport in an all-star game. I know.
Then the worst part is, is like, oh, we're going to host the Four Nations, too. Bring us over to Boston.

Speaker 1 And then all of a sudden, the boys get slapped around in the home city. That's not nice.
But I mean, we did that to you guys. We apologized, but we did it.
It had to happen. We did apologize.

Speaker 1 Right after Boston's problems.

Speaker 9 Yeah, yeah. So that's where he won the Stanley Cup, right?

Speaker 11 Yeah, seven. Yeah.

Speaker 9 Real tough. Real tough.
I can't believe we kept going glove side on him.

Speaker 1 He loves glove side. Oh, he was beast overtime.
He was.

Speaker 1 That was incredible, but great back and forth. But those two glove saves got the boys juicy on the bench.
And I think McJesus said, like, enough's enough. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, Biz Nasty can't be telling them, like, he's going to be nothing.

Speaker 1 And the country did not crumble. We are not the 51st state.

Speaker 9 Are we the 11th province? I saw some people saying that.

Speaker 1 Oh, it could be.

Speaker 9 I reject.

Speaker 9 I rebel against that.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I would put the lines underneath the Canada flag of it, too.

Speaker 1 The what? The lines. Yeah, the red lines.
Oh, the lines. The lines.
The stripes.

Speaker 1 The lines.

Speaker 1 No, the stripes. Yeah, you're right.
It may be just one. You can have Michigan.

Speaker 9 How about that?

Speaker 1 Doe, that's the shittiest state you guys own.

Speaker 1 Michigan sucks. Really? Michigan sucks.
How's Michigan? I enjoy Michigan. Michigan's all right.
Okay.

Speaker 1 If you have no other 49 states to go to. Yeah.
Like, I mean.

Speaker 1 What's your favorite state?

Speaker 1 Ohio, bro. Buckeye Nations.
Bless you. Okay.
Buckeye Nations.

Speaker 9 That makes sense. That's Michigan.

Speaker 1 Michigan. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 We don't talk about, we don't say we say Ichigan.

Speaker 9 Do you say that team down south?

Speaker 1 Yeah, so you're a Buckeyes fan because you're best friends with Rick Nash growing up. Yeah.
Rick Nash, by the way, we were FaceTiming with him in between third period and OT.

Speaker 1 He confirmed that he first saw Oldie's pussy when he was six years old. Wow.
Yeah.

Speaker 9 You show me yours, I'll show you mine.

Speaker 1 That was just, that was a pussy at that point, a boy pussy. That's a change room talk.
That's kind of, you know what I mean? What does the boys do? Like, that's why I played sports.

Speaker 1 My favorite was before and after the game. So Yandle Chamber.

Speaker 1 Yandle change room guy. All day.

Speaker 9 Our friend Dan showed this video of you. I think

Speaker 9 it was in the playoffs, right? Where the Rangers, they flew you out before each game won to get the boys pumped up in the locker room.

Speaker 9 You were like, you were the entertainment in the locker room minutes before they went on the ice, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. I was the fire-up guy.
I was a fire-up guy. That's got to be,

Speaker 1 that's 10 years ago. That's 10 years ago, 2015.
they uh won the president's cup first overall in the league so they had home ice advantage uh round one game one flew me out round

Speaker 1 round two game one flew me out round three

Speaker 1 game one flew me out okay we're since there's a trend here here's the kicker my wife was eight and a half months pregnant

Speaker 1 and she said you can't go my parents said you can't go Everyone's like, you can't go.

Speaker 1 Text them back, got on the next flight. Had to be gone for the boys

Speaker 1 for the boys.

Speaker 9 When you texted your wife back, did you say, sorry, boys, I gotta go?

Speaker 1 Oh, I just gone. I just told this is the plan.
The guy texted me from the Rangers, said, Hey, do you mind coming up to fire up the boys in the change room before the game? I said, Absolutely.

Speaker 1 So that was it. That was it.
My parents said no. My old lady said no.

Speaker 1 Absolute best wife in the world. Best woman.
Absolute gem.

Speaker 1 Well, you fired her. I mean, yeah, she married a guy with a pussy.
Like,

Speaker 1 she can't beat that, bro. Two for one.

Speaker 1 That's like a double token, right? You get to cake and eat it. Kind of both aspects.
Yeah, so they flew me in. They flew me in.
Yeah, it was a wild ride.

Speaker 9 I don't know if you saw Kanye West's tweets the other day, but I think one would relate very closely to you.

Speaker 1 Oh, what would it say?

Speaker 9 Like,

Speaker 9 if you were born a hermaphrodite, tell me you wouldn't stick your dick in your own pussy.

Speaker 1 That's a good point.

Speaker 1 Possibility, yeah.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? If you think about it, you're sitting around, well, what could happen, right? What could happen?

Speaker 1 But if you're with the boys and then all of a sudden you're solo dolo, like, now what's up? Right?

Speaker 1 Good point. All right, so you mentioned Biz PFT.
Biz got assaulted today,

Speaker 1 as our friend Ryan Whitney said, worse than what the Irish Travelers did to him because Fox News ran a clip.

Speaker 1 They wrote a story on a clip from our podcast on Wednesday saying, ex-Team Canada star says country will have national emergency if Team USA or team loses to U.S.

Speaker 1 in Four Nations final, aka the All-Star game. And then he got community noted and it it said, Bissinet may have played for Team Canada as a teenager in under-18 World Championships.

Speaker 1 He was far from a star then and could be considered the pinnacle of his career. Paul Bisnasty never played for Canada again.
His famous post-career as a media personality. Brutal.

Speaker 9 Yeah, but fair. Fair

Speaker 1 enough.

Speaker 9 Community notes on X, the everything app. Yeah.
It's all happening on X. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So, but yeah,

Speaker 1 it was a great all-star game. It was one of my favorite all-star games.
I'll say that much.

Speaker 9 Yeah, I'd say it's probably this year, I'd say top two.

Speaker 1 Top two. Top two, not two.

Speaker 9 I'd say, yeah, Shaq Chuck.

Speaker 1 Kim Shaq. Shaq Chuck.

Speaker 9 One for the agency. Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right, so Oldie, we're going to talk some other sports. You can chime in whenever you want.

Speaker 1 Any thoughts on Wemby being out for the year? Oh, man, that's tough, dude.

Speaker 1 That's tough, man. That's tough.
Like, coming in as rookie, big beast like that, and then all of a sudden he gets, what do you get, a blood clot or something? Yeah, blood clot in his shoulder.

Speaker 9 He had a pain thombrosis in his shoulder. So they're going to put him on blood thinners.
It sucks

Speaker 1 so bad. And I think he was favorite to win rookie of the year, correct? He was a rookie last year.

Speaker 1 He was a rookie of the

Speaker 1 player of the year. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Defensive player of the year. Sorry, player.

Speaker 9 There must be some big-ass clots, too. And he's got very large arms.

Speaker 1 And I immediately think of Chris Bosch because

Speaker 1 he had an incredible career, but he had to retire at the end because of blood clots.

Speaker 9 I thought those might have been in his lungs.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but this is still serious.

Speaker 9 This is still serious, still scary. So hope Wimby's okay.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it just sucks because I wanted to see Wemby, you know, he's having a great year. Hank, you don't root for injuries, but you also do have a Jaron Jackson Defensive Player of the Year ticket.

Speaker 1 I do,

Speaker 11 but I don't root for injuries.

Speaker 1 You don't root for injuries. Big of you.

Speaker 11 It went from plus 2,200 to minus like 180.

Speaker 1 You know, the Spurs

Speaker 1 probably weren't going to make the playoffs, but still they had a chance to, you know, maybe get into the sneak into the play-in game. It still just sucks.

Speaker 9 I think they might have gotten into the play-in game, and I was just very much looking forward to watching Chris Paul lose in the playoffs and blame it all on him.

Speaker 1 And Rossillo.

Speaker 9 Yeah, and Rossillo. But unfortunately, I don't think we'll be able to do that this year.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it sucks. It sucks.
All right, what other sports is National Sports Podcast? We probably shouldn't have even talked about all-star games.

Speaker 9 MLB does have robot umps now. I saw that.
So they brought that in for the spring training games. Yep.
And so there were a couple challenges. It has to be, I think the batter or the catcher.

Speaker 9 I don't know if the pitcher, maybe the pitcher is allowed to challenge a call.

Speaker 9 So it's not coming from the dugout, which I like.

Speaker 9 I like the fact that it's on the field and those guys have to make the call and see, like, okay, does it really matter if I get the strike called against me?

Speaker 9 Am I that important to the team to use a challenge? Then you have to like tip your cap at the umpire. So you have to like say, fuck you, that was a bad call in a very classy way.

Speaker 9 And then it takes like 10 seconds and they have the Hawkeye thing.

Speaker 1 I kind of like it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I do worry, as always, that when you take away umps, you take away like 50% of the conversations guys can have with each other. And that goes for refs and everything in sports.

Speaker 1 If you can't complain about the calls, what are we going to talk about?

Speaker 1 It'd basically be like putting a ban on no discussion about the weather. Like, what small talk can you do if everything is robots and it's always perfect? But it's kind of cool.

Speaker 9 Yeah, it is. I think it's going to be fine, especially because I think they're limiting the amount of challenges.
Yeah. So

Speaker 9 it's okay. It's like you get a bonus play.

Speaker 9 Like in football when they bring the chains out onto the field, you get that 10-second pause and then you get to watch it again and then you get to react a second time to it.

Speaker 1 Maybe what they should have done is they should have made the robot umps, but it should have just been the robot, should have just been Joe West. Yeah, that would have been cool.
Wow.

Speaker 1 If Joe West, you like that one a little bit? Yeah, that's a great one. I just clicked on to that.
I'm in now.

Speaker 1 Do you know who Joe West is? Absolutely not.

Speaker 1 No, you know he's the worst ump in the league. Terrible.
Do you have a, do you have, are you root for the Blue Jays?

Speaker 1 Yeah, you got a,

Speaker 1 that's the only squadron we got. Yeah.
Not the Blue Jays. Yeah.
Yeah, I watch Blue Jays base help, but but only if it's postseason.

Speaker 1 I'm not a ball guy. I'm not a ball guy.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Slow game. Slow game.
You're just

Speaker 1 very slow. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, yeah, it's good. It's great.
But I mean,

Speaker 1 no offense.

Speaker 9 I wish that if they had robot umps, it's actually a robot behind home plate.

Speaker 9 Like the Boston Dynamics Dog behind home plate. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That'd be nice. That'd be sick, actually.

Speaker 1 You said

Speaker 1 I don't like it. It's a slow game.
It's a bad game, but it's an okay game. It's all right.

Speaker 9 Bottom of the four major sports for sure.

Speaker 1 Rank them.

Speaker 1 Hockey, football,

Speaker 1 then a throw of the NBA. Okay.
And then we got to drop the MLB.

Speaker 9 Number four. Can you explain something to us as a Canadian?

Speaker 1 An MLS.

Speaker 1 What happened? I didn't do anything there.

Speaker 9 As a Canadian, what is a rouge?

Speaker 1 Rouge? In football.

Speaker 9 A rouge? Yeah, Canadian football. You guys have a rouge, right? It's a way that you can score.
Something Something to do with a punt?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't know. I'm not a CFL guy.

Speaker 1 Who's your NFL team? Oh, Tampe Buccaneer. Oh, yeah, that's right.
He's a bad boy. What about my boy? He's out of nowhere.
Dude, you can't stop that guy. My boy's a beast.
Evans?

Speaker 1 Who are you talking about? Mike Evans, dude?

Speaker 1 This guy's an animal.

Speaker 1 This guy's an animal. We should have played a guessing game there.
I thought you were talking about Gurden.

Speaker 1 Oh, dude, yeah, but look at the guy's catches he's caught from Evans. He caught from Mayfield.
Yeah. Tom Brady.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 And then my boy, Crab Stealing Jameis Winston back in college and he went 30 for 30. You remember that? Yeah, only quarterback to do that.

Speaker 1 And here I am still sitting, riding, going hard, because my boy Warren Sapp, you know, Mikey Alsta in the middle, pumping guys.

Speaker 1 Simeon Rice, what? Keyshawn Johnson on the outside. Who are we talking about? And then how if I tell him I'm a Bucs fan, you know, some of the boys were from Boston.

Speaker 1 They're always saying, yeah, because Brady, because Brady. Mind your business with Brady.
I was cheering on when Winston was still throwing picks, guys. 30 for 30.
30 for 30. Who does that?

Speaker 1 Jameis. Obviously.
He's the only guy to do it still. I'm not going to do that stupid record.
It's a bad record.

Speaker 1 That was almost as bad as my threes today on the one net. Yeah.
Not good. The only other one I had, the only other sports story is Zach Martin retired.

Speaker 1 Incredible career. I saw this stat Chase Daniel tweeted out.
Zach Martin finished with more all-pros, nine, than holding penalties, seven.

Speaker 9 That's pretty incredible.

Speaker 1 That's insane.

Speaker 9 That also tells me that he was very good at holding and getting away with it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Also, Zach Martin is, I know that we've been doing this for a long time. We're coming up on a decade.

Speaker 1 And, you know, we've been around and we meet people all the time, but it still always blows my mind when we meet.

Speaker 1 a really good football player, a really good, you know, sports player, and they're like, oh, yeah, I listen to you guys. And we met Zach Martin at the Super Bowl week.

Speaker 1 He's like, yeah, I listen to you guys all the time. I was like, really? You're fucking Zach Martin.

Speaker 9 Yeah, you probably shouldn't listen to him.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're you're the man. So, incredible career.
Yeah, congrats. Incredible career for me.

Speaker 9 I'm very glad that I don't have to play against you again.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Any other stories? What? Oh, old. No, congrats.
No, he's absolute weapon. Yeah.
Absolute weapon. And here he is.
He's loving the boys. But you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 That just shows you you guys are the buttes. It's not him anymore.
He's done. Wrapped up.
He's putting groceries in the bags for the people at the store. Walmart greeter.
I don't know. You know?

Speaker 1 He's got to carry on. Boys, I'd love to stick around right now, but I got so much body flow, a body armor right now.

Speaker 1 No, I got to catch a quick piss break.

Speaker 1 I can't even hold. I'm going to piss my pants here, but I can't do that, though.
I'm a 40-year-old man. I can't do that.
Non-alcoholic either. That's a bad look.

Speaker 1 Give me a couple here. Don't shut her down.
Okay, all right. We won't shut her down.

Speaker 9 I have seven body armors, right? Or the flash IVs.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It was a lot.
A lot of body armor reaches. Hey, Oldie, while you're taking a piss, think of at the end of every show on Friday, we do Fire Fest.

Speaker 1 So whatever the worst thing that happened to you this week is.

Speaker 1 Or it could be the last month. All right.
All right. Okay.
Go take a piss. My pants are like, okay, not by.
Okay. Love you.
He's coming.

Speaker 1 He's not coming.

Speaker 1 I thought he was going to his hotel for a second.

Speaker 1 I thought he was like,

Speaker 1 the guy's been here for fucking 13 hours. I thought he was like, you know what? That's it.
I've had enough. Yeah.
I'm out of here.

Speaker 9 He has, his blood type is as close to cocaine as possible. Not that he's doing it.
No.

Speaker 1 He doesn't. He said he's never tried it.

Speaker 9 He says that he's been told his entire life, we know what you're like. Never touch the stuff.

Speaker 1 Yeah. He's an incredible.

Speaker 9 He acts like he just saw Josh Allen win MVP all the time.

Speaker 1 Every single time. He's wild.
But yeah,

Speaker 1 he's an incredible, incredible dude.

Speaker 9 Specimen.

Speaker 1 I almost puked on the stream because I was laughing so hard.

Speaker 1 When he did the handstand with his side pouch, pussy.

Speaker 1 That moment when we first saw the side pouch. And I was convinced I was just looking at his ball sack.
Yeah. And I just couldn't.
He just like, no, dude, this is.

Speaker 1 I think his words were, this could go on Disney right now. This is inspired.
This is the human body. Nothing wrong with this.

Speaker 9 Just a couple of pouches for the boys. He also brought a bunch of treats for us, and they were all great.
That's my other big takeaway from tonight is Canada, you have fantastic snack foods.

Speaker 9 Yeah, you do. Unbelievable snack foods.
The coffee-flavored chocolate bar, whatever that was called.

Speaker 13 Yeah, the coffee break.

Speaker 9 Might be the best candy bar I've ever had. They got the old-dressed chips.
They've got the ketchup chips.

Speaker 1 You brought Timbits.

Speaker 9 Tim Bits. They've got the Smarties, and their Smarties are chocolate.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 9 Incredible job by Canada with the treats.

Speaker 1 Now that Oldie's not here, I mean, Team Canada deserved to win that game with the way Bennington played. It was incredible.
It was insane. Yeah.
And that was an awesome, awesome hockey.

Speaker 9 He had three of the best saves I've seen in a long time. Yeah.
Just in overtime. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And it was

Speaker 1 incredible tournament. I hope they do that as often as possible because that was so good for hockey.

Speaker 9 See you in 2026, though.

Speaker 1 Yeah, see you in 2026. We're ready to go.
All right, do we have anything else before we get to our interviews? Oh, boys.

Speaker 1 Wow. Yeah.
I almost never made it. And

Speaker 1 believe it, believe it or not, but somebody turned the lights off. I don't know, some kind of sick joke, but I had to like, good thing I pissed so many times.
I know where the pisser was.

Speaker 1 And I started feeling the top, and I heard the metal clanging. I knew that was the top where you can flush it down.
I think they're censored lights.

Speaker 1 I don't think so, dude. What's going on? Are you a ghost?

Speaker 9 Do you exist?

Speaker 1 I believe so. I was out here bumping and grinding.

Speaker 1 I don't know if it's this building, it's two and a half-star dump or what's going on. He keeps calling this place a two and a half star dump.

Speaker 1 He was playing hockey at like 10.30 in the morning, having the time of his life. He's like, yeah, I guess it's okay for a two and a half star dump.
Just out here bumping and grinding.

Speaker 1 Like, I want a bigger ceiling fans because it gets too hot out there. You know what I mean?

Speaker 9 Yeah, so Oldie, we're just talking about the great snacks that you brought.

Speaker 9 Are there any American snacks that you don't get up in Canada that you really want?

Speaker 1 Oh, dude.

Speaker 1 The Reese's pieces. We get Reese's pieces, but the Reese.
The biggest lava cup. The Lava Cup, bro.
You ain't going to deny that. Yeah, it's incredible.

Speaker 1 Incredible. Absolutely big and juicy, bro.
Like, if your mouth isn't like salvating, or what's it called there? Yeah, salvating it. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 So good, dude. That's a nice crunch.
With a nice... Oh, yeah.
Reese's?

Speaker 1 Throw it in there with a quick body armor. Shaboom, shabooms.
You're ready to rock and roll all night, dude.

Speaker 1 Like, you know, who do you think?

Speaker 1 We might just hire you just to read ads.

Speaker 1 Great gig. Great gig.
And then what do I do? Just Just go back off and then go on? Yeah, you just drink a body armor, then you come back off.

Speaker 1 Have a Reese's lava cup.

Speaker 9 You ever had these truly unrulies?

Speaker 1 Delicious. You love them.
Oh, you should crush one of those. Yeah, for the boys.
Yeah. You want one crushed? Yeah, yeah.
Crush one. Crush one.
Crush a truly unruly. All right.
You got it.

Speaker 1 I'm coming in. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
All right. I'm back in.

Speaker 1 We'll see you guys in like 30 seconds. Don't go anywhere, though.

Speaker 1 They're

Speaker 1 not going anywhere. Oh, man.

Speaker 1 What is he doing?

Speaker 9 8% alcohol, 100% delicious.

Speaker 1 It's the best. The absolute best.

Speaker 9 That's a berry blast right there. Yeah, you got that right there.

Speaker 1 There you go. You got your berry blast.
Wait, go back in and do it on the mic so we can hear you. Yeah.
Paul, you want to see the suck and chuck it back. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. Don't go anywhere, right? We know where she goes.
Yeah, don't go anywhere.

Speaker 1 We know where she goes.

Speaker 9 Right down the belly there.

Speaker 1 Okay, now. Oh, all right.
He's back. He's back.

Speaker 1 He's got to put on his cans. Do we have a truly read?

Speaker 1 No. Oh, we did.
Well, we did. We did one during the interviews.

Speaker 1 But yeah, Truly Unruly is the absolute best. 8% ABV.
Absolutely. Delicious.
Gents, I just want to thank you very much. Appreciate that you guys didn't take off in that 30 seconds.

Speaker 1 That was pretty nice.

Speaker 1 That was real nice. That would have sucked of us if we were just gone.

Speaker 1 That was a great Canadian move. Like, stick around for the boys.
Yeah. Don't bounce on them, right?

Speaker 1 Like, all right, later, oldie, and these guys are gone back door. And you guys stuck around like a true, like it, like we're going to speak here.
Truly unruly, very blast. Yeah, you hear that noise?

Speaker 1 That's the noise of

Speaker 1 sweetness right there. Oh, yeah.
Oh, truly. In

Speaker 1 four, three, two, one. Hatch it.

Speaker 9 There it is, folks.

Speaker 1 It's delicious, right?

Speaker 1 Excuse me.

Speaker 1 Oh, I could go now.

Speaker 1 That's a berry blaster from the pastor right there.

Speaker 1 All right, Oldie, before we do our interviews, tell us real quick. You drive the bony back at home? Yeah, I used to drive the bony.
Now I'm pushing back snow and the old heavy 40.

Speaker 1 I bump and grind out there with the fire station 2 volunteer. Oh, nice.

Speaker 1 You were a trash man before that. Sanitary engineer.
Come on.

Speaker 1 sanitary engineer come on we talked about this a little more respect come on please give me some credentials you drove the trash truck though yeah i drove the trash truck for 12 years 12 years i used to do rear load so we had two guys bumping and grinding and we had the solo dolo front end oh excuse me guys that's a truly burnt i apologize

Speaker 1 you can't hide that like nothing wants to stay in it's like so much liquid in there

Speaker 1 it's like it's like the gulf of mex it's like the gulf of america now dude there you go it's like a big splush of Gulf of America just splashing back and forth in the old ring rod there.

Speaker 1 How would you rate your bony driving? Were you the best?

Speaker 1 Oh, it's got to be a solid 8.4. Okay.

Speaker 1 I can't sit here and stand the cat's ass because there's going to be bony drivers coming at me hot, dude. Yeah.
Right. Like they're going to be coming up from Canada.

Speaker 1 They're going to be coming down here in Canada on the bonies crossing the border. Tom, I want to get this boy.
I'll show him a real flight.

Speaker 1 Would parents, though, complain about your bony driving? Some would just keep looking at you like you don't know what you're doing.

Speaker 1 But when I'm running flawless, no lines out there, straight clear ice, can't beat it, dude.

Speaker 9 Yeah. When was the last time you got a Tilly?

Speaker 1 Tilly, who.

Speaker 1 I used to get into quite a bit.

Speaker 1 Tilly's a fight for everybody.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's a fan. Yeah, you said that, and I didn't know what you were talking about.
If no one knows Tilly, like, wake up, bro. Smell the coffee beans.
You're going to get dropped here, son.

Speaker 1 I want to do it to you, but you're going to have no front grill.

Speaker 1 I don't say to you. You might give me a couple sluggers, but I'm coming in hot.
The reason I ask is because you came here prepared.

Speaker 9 You taped the wrists up tonight just in case you gotten one.

Speaker 1 Well, you know how close, OP.

Speaker 9 Did you think? I do, I do. Did you think you were going to get in one tonight?

Speaker 1 Well, you don't know. You don't know what happens working in the corners like that, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, when the boys don't like it, quick little slash, quick little hack, couple, maybe you know, a little dirty butt end. Yeah,

Speaker 1 move or an elbow. You don't like it, right? Yeah,

Speaker 9 anybody ever uppercut you right in that pouch and get their hands stuck in there? Like they're reaching out to pull their leg out of quicksand?

Speaker 1 No, no one's got stuck in there yet. No gamer on that, though.
Yeah, no one more tillies, nothing too much crazy. I used to play lacrosse.
Used to be able to go the guy if you want.

Speaker 9 Yeah, I mean, if I'm looking at you, I can tell right off the bat, that's a guy you don't want to get into a tilly with.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and it doesn't matter the guy, big, small, or tall,

Speaker 1 give him a run. You want to go it, wrong what you brung.
You want one? Yeah.

Speaker 9 You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 You're 6'4, wrong what you brung. You're 5'8? Bring it.
I don't know what to tell you. You know what I mean? Yeah, I know exactly what you mean.
All right,

Speaker 1 let's get to our interviews. Oldest guy, stick around for Firefest.
We got Rick Petino and then Super Bowl champ Cooper DeGene.

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Speaker 1 Okay, here he is, Coach Rick Petino.

Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest, recurring guest. It is head coach of St.
John's Basketball, Rick Petino, back in studio. Coach, thank you so much for coming back into our office.

Speaker 1 You have the documentary, guys. The show is out now.
You can watch it on Vice. I watched the first episode.
It's called Red Storm Rising.

Speaker 1 It feels like since you were last year, so last year, you guys didn't make the tournament. You now have a show about you.
You're the 10th team in the country.

Speaker 1 Feels like everything, Patino Ball is starting to work at St. John's.
Is that fair to say?

Speaker 6 Yeah, the biggest surprise I've had, it's very tough to pack Madison Square Garden. It's a pro town, as Chicago is, and we're like the 10th, 11th pro team.
So

Speaker 6 I thought we could be competitive this year. Didn't know how good we would be.
You never do with the NIL stuff.

Speaker 6 But packing Madison Square Garden with all St. John's fans, fans, not half Connecticut or 5,000 Villanova, the other night was amazing to me.

Speaker 6 We already moved the seat and hall game from campus to the garden, sold 16,000 seats. So that's been the biggest surprise for me and very exciting.

Speaker 9 Yeah, yeah. And how much access do these guys have behind the scenes with you?

Speaker 6 Oh, they're there. A couple of times I've asked them to leave.

Speaker 6 But they're there. They catch it.
Like next episode, Talik Brown, who's the point guard of the National Championship Connecticut team, goes off crazy.

Speaker 6 And I was in the other room, and I come in and he goes berserk and they captured the whole thing.

Speaker 9 Yeah. I mean, they got a great clip of you from the other night.
Was it the halftime speech? Yes, probably. It was a halftime.
You just kind of unloaded on your team.

Speaker 9 You just let them know everything that was wrong with them. You guys need to toughen the fuck up, I think you said.
Did you know after you gave that speech? You're like, I nailed that.

Speaker 6 No, I wasn't thinking that way. We were down like 10, 12 points.
And what's been bothering me the whole year with my team is they count the misses. So we're not the greatest three-point shooting team.

Speaker 6 But if my guys miss a couple of free throws, a couple of threes, they won't take them anymore. And it drives me crazy because they're wide open.
Everybody's packing the lane on us.

Speaker 6 And I keep telling them, I told them the other day, if you hear me say, shoot it or kill it, you must shoot the ball. So they kept...
hanging their heads every time they missed.

Speaker 6 Every time they missed a free throw, they'd hang their heads. And it got to a point, I said, you guys got to toughen up, man.

Speaker 6 This is not only the game of basketball, this is the game of life. You guys face a little adversity and you're wilting.
It can't be. You got to be tougher.
You got to learn. And it was from the heart.

Speaker 6 Yeah. But I was trying to win a game.

Speaker 1 It was great because I do think that especially in college sports right now with the transfer portal and NIL, there's a lot of people that are like, hey, tough coaching doesn't really happen as much anymore because guys are getting paid and guys can jump from one school to the next.

Speaker 1 So I feel like that was a pretty good. promo for what you still stand for and your coaching style.
And I think there are kids out there that still want that. They want to be coached hard.

Speaker 6 Well, both of you know this. Your favorite teachers are the ones that were toughest on you and taught you the most.

Speaker 6 And today you can be tough on the team, but you can't be tough on them individually in front of the team.

Speaker 6 If you want to be tough individually, you call them in your office, you go one-on-one, and you tell them the way you feel and get feedback.

Speaker 6 Collectively, as a team, you can get after them and they'll be very receptive. Most of them will say, oh, he's not talking about me.
Right.

Speaker 1 He's talking about somebody else. Right.

Speaker 9 So did you notice a difference? Have Have you seen anything already since you gave them that speech? Like they missed a shot?

Speaker 6 It's been a little bit, about 50% better. But that part of the season, we've had some issues where we've had to correct some major, major flaws.
in the way we go about things.

Speaker 6 And today, in the last like 10 games, we've corrected them. They're confident.
They're also not about themselves. It is about the team.

Speaker 6 I don't, only Kadari as a freshman at Syracuse has experienced the NCAA tournament. And Zubi did his first year at Kansas, but didn't play at all.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I also think

Speaker 1 your team defense, I love watching you guys play. The Connecticut game, I think it was two weeks ago, was a perfect example where you guys got punched in the mouth.
It was a crazy crowd at stores.

Speaker 1 You're down. I think you were down like 16, 18 or early.
And you guys got back in that game. But watching that game, you didn't get back in the game because you started hitting shots.

Speaker 1 You got back in the game because of defense.

Speaker 1 You started making everything tough for Yukon and then

Speaker 1 getting back in the game by shutting them down first, which I don't feel like you see very often anymore.

Speaker 6 Yeah, well, you pick up a stat sheet with us. Sometimes I am just marveled at our guys that we're winning the game.

Speaker 6 The other day against Creighton, we're shooting 30-something percent, 50-something percent from the foul line. I think we were poorly from the three-point line as well, and we're up one.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 Based on forced turnovers and offensive rebounds, we're a great offensive rebounding team because we miss a lot. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So wait, how do you fix that? Because I know the watching the first episode, which everyone should go watch it because it is really very well done.

Speaker 1 But I watched the first episode and there was a lot talking about Qadari Richmond, who's your star player in fixing his shot. Have you noticed that his shot has gotten better?

Speaker 1 And how does that process even work?

Speaker 6 It gets better in our player development sessions, but in the game, he still goes back to the little hitch that he does have.

Speaker 6 But what we're trying to do more than anything else is give them the confidence to take it.

Speaker 6 And then more than

Speaker 6 I've changed. Last time I was here with you, we were talking about the drills we do for three-point shooting and our player development.

Speaker 6 So this year, I found that we have five different shooting drills that we do, and we chart each day. And it was the lowest, even lower than Iona of all the places I've worked.

Speaker 6 So I realized at that point, we weren't going to be a great three-point shooting team. So we started working on what Kevin Durant works on, the mid-range game.

Speaker 6 And I've gone from a big proponent of three-point shot. Right now, we're shooting like almost 68%

Speaker 6 from about 12 to 15 feet. Yeah.
And we've worked very hard at that. And RJ's gotten great at it.
Qadari's great at it. Most of our players are really, really talented at the mid-range game.
Yeah.

Speaker 9 Yeah, you're playing to your strengths right now. So it's interesting.
You mentioned, I think you were kind of joking, but you get a lot of offensive rebounds because you miss a lot of shots.

Speaker 9 There are shots, though, that result in a higher percentage of offensive rebounds, aren't there?

Speaker 6 I think Kelvin Sampson and Houston's the greatest proponent of that. I mean, they are unbelievable offensive rebounding team.

Speaker 6 Now, he does have a better shooting team this year, but if you are an average shooting team, which I think we are, we're average, sometimes we're decent.

Speaker 6 We've got to be a great offensive rebounding team. And we also have to keep our turnovers down.
The other day against Creighton, I believe we had five or six turnovers in the game.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 So a quote that you had, and I love this because it is very coach

Speaker 1 speak. So I want you to maybe tell me exactly what this means.

Speaker 6 But you said, nothing changes if nothing changes i liked it it's like the standard is the standard football guys usually say that yes i i stole that from my wife's mother-in-law okay and uh it was an irish expression she got from her mother and uh who had an irish brogue and uh nothing's going to change uh if nothing changes and i tell these guys i tell Qadari this all the time I said Qadari It's not going to change.

Speaker 6 Your shot's not going to change with the 42 minutes with me. If you don't get in the gym like Donovan Mitchell got in the gym every single night to improve his arc, it's not changing.

Speaker 6 You're not changing bad habits just by showing up. I said, you've got to work at that and work at that and work at that.
And Donovan certainly did it.

Speaker 6 And Kedari's not mastered that yet.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I just love the quote because it's one of those,

Speaker 1 when you hear it first, you're like, that's kind of dumb. And then you're like, oh, shit, that actually means something.
Nothing changes if nothing changes.

Speaker 9 Yeah, there's two different nothing changes. There's two different nothings, though.

Speaker 9 The first nothing is the one you want to change. Right.
The second nothing is the work you have to put into making sure nothing changes right.

Speaker 6 And the other thing is I've always believed coming off of the 2013 championship at Louisville, you know, I was really concerned about the team and we had quite a few players back and somebody said, look, if it's not broken, stick with your game plan of 2-2-1 to a matchup press.

Speaker 6 I said, no, you know what?

Speaker 6 If nothing's broken, break it. You got to make it better because everybody's going to be prepared for it.
Everybody's going to steal it. And that's, I believed in it as well.

Speaker 6 If nothing's broken, don't stay the same. Break it and make it better.
Innovate, get creative. And I don't believe in staying the same.
You've got to change.

Speaker 6 And as we get close to the tournament, we have to put in five new plays that they're not going to see in tournament time.

Speaker 9 So there's a stat that I saw earlier today that in the last 13 years, since 2012, there have been two teams that have made the final four.

Speaker 9 If they're shooting, I believe under 34%

Speaker 9 from three.

Speaker 9 You coached 2012 Louisville, shot 31.8 from three, got to the Final Four. 2013, Louisville, 33.1 from three, got to the Final Four.
This year, I believe you're at 29.3.

Speaker 9 So if there's a coach that can get a team that sometimes struggles from the outside to the Final Four, it would be you.

Speaker 9 Do you feel like this team, the tournament format, do you feel like that sets up nicely for the style of play you guys have?

Speaker 6 Well, I think I've been blessed with so many different types of teams. My 96 championship team, I thought my second unit could have won it.
We had like seven, eight pros on the team. The 2000,

Speaker 6 the 87 Providence team was Billy Donovan and a bunch of guys that were just great guys and worked hard, but we had great shooters on the wing.

Speaker 6 My 2005 team at Louisville was just great shooters on the wing. Neither team was great defensively.

Speaker 6 Then the two teams you mentioned were great defensively, struggled a little bit, but they were great off-the-bounce players. Peyton Seaver, Russ Smith.
They could take Luke Hancock.

Speaker 6 They could take you off the bounce. And the same thing is true with RJ Luiz, with this team, Kadari Richmond, Simeon Wilshire, they can take you off the bounce.

Speaker 6 So I don't worry about that stat too much as long as we're shooting the two-point shot at a high number, which we are.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Are you starting to get illusions of grandeur with this team? Because that was the other thing you said early on.
You're like, I don't...

Speaker 1 I liked it because a lot of coaches won't be as honest as you were. You're like, I don't have illusions of grandeur for these guys yet.
Like, are they good? I don't know. We haven't played anyone.

Speaker 1 We got to find out. So are you starting to think, hey, this team is a dangerous team come March?

Speaker 6 My post-game speech the other night, I asked Weiss to leave it, and I said, look, guys, just want to tell you right now,

Speaker 6 you have done something that I didn't think you could do. I didn't think you could pack Madison Square Garden.
I didn't think it would happen in two years. So all the credit goes to you.

Speaker 6 You're on top of the Big East, which is amazing. All the credit goes to you.
But understand now, your life takes on a new meaning because now people want more and more and more.

Speaker 6 And I told them what you guys just repeated about some of the teams I've coached that weren't super talented team, like the 96 team, and the sky's the limit. But you must do the following things.

Speaker 6 And I went through it. You must take your game now to a new level because March Mandis is right around the corner.
Right.

Speaker 6 And they were pumped up about it. I said, but you guys, what you're doing to me, I marvel at it.
And then I said something. I said, look, I don't know.
Guys, I'm 72.

Speaker 6 I'm having a blast. I said, if I'm blessed enough to coach three or four more years, so be it.
If I go out this year and you guys make an incredible run, so be it.

Speaker 6 But I just want to let you know how gratifying it is to watch you reach these heights. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And there is, there's something about Rick Petino in the second years that you've been able to do.

Speaker 1 What is that? Because, you know, they showed it in the first episode, but Providence, second year, you go from a 17 and 14 team team to a Final Four.

Speaker 1 Kentucky, people will think, oh, how can you turn around Kentucky? It's Kentucky. No, they had the death penalty.
You guys were ineligible. You turned them around.
Louisville, same thing. Iona.

Speaker 1 And now this second year at St. John, what is it about like the second year that you're able to do this and have these big bounces?

Speaker 6 I think you've got to develop with a basketball team how much you hate losing. You got to develop that how much you despise losing.

Speaker 6 And then when you lose, you're willing to do anything to correct those mistakes. And you build that.
Not that you're a sore loser, but that you've got to hate losing.

Speaker 6 Inside, you've got to hate to lose. So if you're down 14 with six to go, you have to have the belief you're going to come back and win that game because you hate to lose.

Speaker 6 And I think we instill that. It takes a year to instill that, but these guys feel it right now and they hate to lose.
I told them today, we have the poll tonight. I said, guys.

Speaker 6 The poll can beat anybody in this league. They were up four at Marquette last week late in the game.
We all saw what Connecticut did to Seton Hall.

Speaker 6 And I told them, I said, let's take Connecticut as an example.

Speaker 6 If they would have lost to Seton Hall and now they have nine or ten losses and they lose to us or somebody else, will they go to the tournament 11 and 12 and they're an outstanding team and superbly well coached?

Speaker 6 I said, so you have to understand this is just the beginning right now with five games left.

Speaker 9 Yeah, this might be a dumb question, but along those same lines, can a team win too much? Like, is it good from a coach's perspective?

Speaker 9 Obviously, you want to win every game you play and every game you coach, but it's useful sometimes to have a bad loss where you can light a fire to their ass, right?

Speaker 9 So how do you keep that going if you're on such a great streak and you keep beating teams that maybe some people think that you shouldn't beat?

Speaker 6 Yeah, I think it's a great question. It happened to me one time in 96,

Speaker 6 a young Chicago kid named Antoine Walker.

Speaker 6 We're playing, we were on a run that was incredible. The average margin of victory, I think, in the SEC at that time was 26 points.
And the SEC was very strong back then. So we were killing everybody.

Speaker 6 And we go into the tournament.

Speaker 6 We've won every year the tournament and i said well i'd love i'd love to not win it this year because we were so invincible beating people and antoan walker i took him out of the game i said great defense twan will you keep him in front of you he said i did they didn't switch he gave me gave me a very honest answer i said you're done for tonight and i knew if i kept him out we'd have a chance of losing

Speaker 6 so he sure enough One of the Mississippi State players sat on the ground. Now, we tried to win the game.

Speaker 6 We did everything possible, but Tuan wasn't going to play.

Speaker 6 I forgot his name. He played in the pros, 6'7 forward, sat on the ground and shot the ball from the ground with no time, and we lost in the finals.
And I was happy.

Speaker 6 I knew at that point we're going to win the national team.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, it just gives you the motivation.

Speaker 6 But with this team, to answer your question, no, we had four losses.

Speaker 1 We don't need to run.

Speaker 9 You don't need that at this point. Yeah, when that shot goes in, did you have to act like you were really upset in the moment?

Speaker 6 Yeah, I was going to get all over Antoine.

Speaker 6 Antoine was great to coach. I mean, he drove me crazy because every single day he'd come up to me during practice.
He was a trash talker all the time, and he would say, Coach, do me a favor.

Speaker 6 Ron Mercy. Get Ron off of me.
He's going to lose his confidence. We need him to play well next game.
Put somebody else on me. And he would do that to me the whole practice.
Coach, get him off me.

Speaker 6 You're going to kill his confidence.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 that early season loss to Baylor, I know that, you know. You can't comment on it, but he did cover two and a half, so thank you for that.

Speaker 6 But the ball was, what upsets me about that, the ball was in his hands. I know.
And the referee didn't have a stopwatch, didn't take a look at that. I mean, you have to do that.
I know.

Speaker 6 So I'm counting it that we've only had three losses.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, and also very weird. I mean, you're playing in

Speaker 1 a conference room

Speaker 1 in the Bahamas, yeah, in the ballroom.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I mean, it's great to play in it, but the courts are always slippery. Yeah.
The clock wasn't very well adjusted.

Speaker 1 It was a great game. I remember when I was watching the episode, I was like, I remember sitting on my couch watching this whole game back and forth, double overtime.
Like, awesome.

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Speaker 1 Tino. I have, so you've been doing this for a long time.
You're no,

Speaker 1 you know, you're not new to criticism. I wanted to read some criticism that maybe came from a college basketball expert at Barstool Sports, and I want you to comment on it, okay?

Speaker 1 This is

Speaker 1 This is what this person said. This is from, actually, I think the day you were hired at St.
John's. He said, facilities stink.
Best players in area leave NYC. Garden doesn't draw.

Speaker 1 Haven't made conference semis since 2000. How do you fix that? Hire a 70-year-old man with no successor plan.
Patina will make them a story and draw attention, but this is a stopgap.

Speaker 1 That's a college basketball quote-unquote expert.

Speaker 6 Look, not a lot of coaches are coaching in their 70s.

Speaker 6 You know, I do it because I love it.

Speaker 6 Tony Bennett just left, a brilliant coach.

Speaker 6 Some people want to keep coaching.

Speaker 6 Because I sat out two years from the game, I realized I can't live without it.

Speaker 6 Being around the guys keeps you young. You're always working out to stay young.
You're always doing things. You're active.

Speaker 6 I already had the experience of retirement for two years and I didn't like it too much. So I think we do have a success plan.

Speaker 6 You know, I think my assistant coach, Stevie Maciello, would be a great succession to me leaving. He was my New York Knick ball boy at age 14.
He went with me at Louisville.

Speaker 6 He was going to have a great team in Manhattan before he left there. He's a New York guy.
So I think we have that plan. Now, I don't pick that, certainly.

Speaker 6 Ed Cull, our great athletic director, will pick that. I do think I've got a good run in me left.
Yeah. You know, I hope, God willing.

Speaker 1 But, I mean, this person said Garden doesn't draw. You literally are drawing the garden now.

Speaker 6 Yeah, that I am surprised with selling out. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But you proved him wrong in a year and a half. Yep.
So Rico Bosco guy.

Speaker 9 It's junk take. What's his name? Rico Bosco.

Speaker 1 No, so Rico does work with us.

Speaker 1 We had like a big debate. He's obsessed with this succession plan thing where he's like, well, what are they going to do after Patino leaves in like six or seven years? Like, what does it matter?

Speaker 1 If he goes and he has a six, seven-year run at St. John's and they win, you're not going to take one of the best basketball coaches of all time for those six or seven years?

Speaker 6 Well, you guys, I'll ask you a question. What's the succession plan at Virginia right now? Right.

Speaker 6 What's the succession plan at Miami right now?

Speaker 6 You know, who knows what it is. Right.

Speaker 1 You don't know the future.

Speaker 6 And I will say this. St.
John's,

Speaker 6 the only mistakes they made with ADs or coaches is they, St. John's is a different job.
It's an inner city, a commuter school. I believe you got to hire a Northeast person who understands St.
John's.

Speaker 6 You have to understand because it's different than any place I've ever worked. So it has to be a Northeastern that has close ties to New York, to the subway alumni.

Speaker 6 50% of our seasoned ticket holders are not alumni. Right.
So you've got to know that the NIL saved St. John's.
Probably the NIL saved DePaul.

Speaker 6 Because when... You have the NIL now, so it's not about football.
It's not about the campus.

Speaker 6 It's not about, it's about playing in the Big East, playing at Madison Square Garden, and you're a professional athlete. Yeah.
So it helped us immensely.

Speaker 1 Just promise me this: when Rico Bosco, when you guys make a final for run and he asks for a jumpsuit and jump on the bandwagon, just you got to, I'll give the tweet to one of your guys on staff and just so you have it.

Speaker 1 And we'll be like, are you the same guy? Because he will. He'll ask to get a jumpsuit and be like, I always loved Petino.

Speaker 9 Well, that guy's also a Nate Oates mouthpiece. Yeah, he is.
So whatever,

Speaker 9 Nate Oates probably texted Rico. So if you mind putting this tweet out, they're worried about St.
John's. Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, yeah. So how has that

Speaker 9 statement from Rico looked in terms of recruiting guys from New York?

Speaker 6 Well, to tell you the truth, I don't.

Speaker 6 We recruit very few guys from New York. Right now, we have Kadari as a transfer from New York.
I think he's our really only New Yorker. Jaden Glover lived in New Jersey.
He's originally from New York.

Speaker 6 I think New York is more attractive away from New York. than in New York.

Speaker 9 I agree that as somebody who used to live in New York.

Speaker 9 I like look at it and I'm like, I could go back to the village and walk around a little bit, hit up a few bars.

Speaker 6 bars the second I get to Midtown I'm like nope going back well I grew up in New York and I didn't want to stay in New York I wanted to travel to another campus another place and go away to college so with the NIL it's changed the game completely now I like the NIL

Speaker 6 and it's like if you're the Philadelphia 76s is your money being spent wisely they're getting knocked all the time on TV about about some of the moves they made well injury is a part of the game and and and bead's been hurt this guy's been hurt so

Speaker 6 the money is not panning out where the Oklahoma Thunder, it's really panning out.

Speaker 6 Incidentally, I show almost four times a week clips of the Oklahoma Thunder defense to our guys because I know the pro thing will really excite them. Lou Dort.
Yep.

Speaker 6 And we show the way they play defense. The way they play defense is like college defense.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 they're all over people.

Speaker 1 That's a fact.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 you've been accepted back at Kentucky, which has to feel good because there's been a long time where that wasn't the case.

Speaker 1 And now Cal's going through the same thing where he got booed and he's on the outside.

Speaker 1 What has it been like with Mark Pope now being there?

Speaker 1 I think you even got a little criticism for maybe being too pro-Kentucky, but I thought it was cool.

Speaker 1 It was one of those moments like, hey, I had the heights of my success here and I'm finally being welcomed back into Big Blue Nation.

Speaker 6 It was a great moment. You know, I made a statement that Kentucky should cheer John Calapari when he goes back.
They won a national championship.

Speaker 6 And I said, because I knew firsthand how much it hurt me being booed by 24,000 people. Today I understand it, going to Louisville.
But I didn't go from Kentucky to Louisville.

Speaker 6 I went from Kentucky to Celtics to Louisville. I understand it, but it made me feel great being welcomed back.

Speaker 6 And it wasn't taking a shot at Louisville because I root to Louisville because they have Peyton Seaver on their staff.

Speaker 6 And I root for my players. I've always rooted for my players.
I watch them on TV in the pros. I watch them coaching Mick Cronin in UCLA, Billy Donovan with the Bulls.

Speaker 6 All my guys out there, when Travis Ford was with St. Louis, Mark Pope now, I just, Kevin Willett at Maryland, I've just roofed my guys.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 9 So there's

Speaker 9 an update to Joe Lunardi's bracketology that came out, I think, last week. Do you pay any attention to that?

Speaker 6 Not this time of year, but he was wrong last year. He's usually on the money.

Speaker 9 Well, he also went to sleep, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, he did. He went to sleep.

Speaker 9 Yeah, when the brackets came out, he was just like a piece of mouth.

Speaker 1 No, it was Conference Championship Saturday. Right.
It was before that night. He's like going to bed.

Speaker 9 What do you mean? That's the most important thing right now.

Speaker 1 He's going to be after work. Yeah.

Speaker 6 Right now, I don't think you can pay too much attention to it.

Speaker 9 Yeah. Well, I think sometimes he likes to put in these matchups that catch your eye, and then you're like, oh, imagine if those teams played.

Speaker 9 I think he has you guys playing against Kentucky in the round of 32. That would be interesting.

Speaker 6 I would love it.

Speaker 6 I'd love it because we got to 32. We got by the first round.
So,

Speaker 6 no,

Speaker 6 I think Kentucky's probably a polar opposite basketball team than us. They are a brilliant offensive team.
Although we get a lot of assists per game, we have a high number of assists.

Speaker 6 Kentucky is a five-out basketball team. We're not.
We're a terrific defensive team, offensive rebounding team. We're great off the bounce, but I would love it, obviously.

Speaker 9 Can you just promise us one thing that if you do end up playing against Kentucky in the tournament, you break out the white suit?

Speaker 6 Can you? They didn't have a white-out this year. That was disappointing.

Speaker 1 Can you do the white suit? It's a white suit against the business. I can definitely.

Speaker 6 I've spent a lot of money. I've wore it one time.
Yeah.

Speaker 9 That would be nice. We need to see that.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 The white suit would be pretty cool. Break it out for old time's sake.

Speaker 9 I think you should.

Speaker 1 Wait, so we were talking a little bit before, but how are your horses doing?

Speaker 6 So I had a win the other day. I don't own too many of them anymore.
And my ownership is a lot of guys.

Speaker 6 But the one horse I do own 100% of one the other day, New York bread, with a 92 buyer called Agalos the Great, named after my agent in Greece.

Speaker 6 And he's become like a little brother to me. And Agalos the Great won, and I was super excited about that.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Where do you win? You won at the Pegasus?

Speaker 6 Aqueduct. Oh, okay.

Speaker 1 Aqueduct. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 6 That's, I mean, you know, New York bread pots of substantial. So you can, if you have a good New York bread, you can make some money.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 9 I was in Greece this summer, and I think I was flying out on the day that you were flying in. Because it was the uh, what tournament was that that Greece was playing?

Speaker 9 It was, um, I forget, but your old team was playing, I think, and you flew with it.

Speaker 6 They won the championship, Honeten Icos last year. They won the Eurolea championship.
There you go.

Speaker 9 So I was flying out the day you were flying in. You had told us that when we had you on Kentucky Sports Radio.

Speaker 9 So I spent about 30 extra minutes just walking around the terminal, just seeing if I saw a Rick Petino come in, like welcome you to Greece. When you go back to Greece, how do they treat you?

Speaker 6 Oh, they treat me great.

Speaker 6 Better than even when I was the coach at Kentucky. The people there just love basketball.

Speaker 6 What I do is I take two friends of mine and we go to two different or three different islands for eight days every summer. So last year we went to Milos, Patos, and Antipatos.

Speaker 6 And we take, there's over 120 islands in Greece. When you go to Greece, Athens is good for one night, a day and a half.

Speaker 6 You go to Partheon and you see some of the local sites, but then you go to the islands, and that's what makes it fun.

Speaker 9 Yeah, so what is it about Greece that has such a special basketball culture?

Speaker 6 You know, most of Europe is all soccer. And soccer is very popular in Greece, but not more popular than basketball.

Speaker 6 They rival each other because Ponotenaikos and Olympiakos, the two great teams, that when they play each other,

Speaker 6 they put a net around the court. That's how violent it could be.
And when we walk in, you'll have 50 police with shields as you walk in the building.

Speaker 6 So it's one of the fiercest rivalry in all of sports, but they love it, and they win a lot of Euro League championships. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So last year, you guys obviously didn't make the tournament. Did you think you were right on that bubble and like, hey, we had a chance?

Speaker 1 How does that work on Selection Sunday where you're like, I think maybe we have a chance here?

Speaker 6 Back in the New York Post said, Johnny's a dancing.

Speaker 6 We just beat Creighton. We played great.
We got to the first time to the quarterfinals. We were playing great basketball.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 I had a little darkness of doubt, but everybody else had us in. As it turned, we weren't even close.
We weren't even last four out.

Speaker 6 I was more surprised Seton Hall had 13 big East wins and they didn't get in.

Speaker 1 So, Max, our producer back there, he's a Villanova guy, also Italian. He claims, and I want to know what you think about this.
He claims that that Seton Hall St.

Speaker 1 John's being left out, the Big East is an Italian league, and that was anti-Italian discrimination.

Speaker 6 What do you think? Yeah, 100%.

Speaker 1 Okay, all right, all right, yeah. So he was right.

Speaker 1 After selection said, he's like, this is just anti-Italian discrimination. They just want to keep the Italians out of the tournament.

Speaker 6 Yeah, but I think Shaheen has some Italian blood in him, too.

Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly. You know,

Speaker 6 I do believe that definitely Seton Hall deserved it.

Speaker 6 I thought what was amazing to me for the first time, and not because we didn't make it, I thought it was the first time the chair of the committee knew very little about the game of basketball.

Speaker 6 I'm sure he's a fabulous AD,

Speaker 6 but I don't understand why they don't have Coach K, Roy Williams.

Speaker 6 putting basketball people in on that every year. Guys like Jim Boeheim and Roy Williams and Coach K would be happy to be on those committees.

Speaker 6 And when they're talking about Duke, Syracuse, or North Carolina, they leave the room. Excuse themselves.
But to have those guys there, they're looking. And then I just wanted to know.

Speaker 6 So I called some people on the committee and said, okay, what metrics did you use? And what am I missing? Because we were, I think, 29 in the net. I think we were like 18 or 19 in Pomeroy.

Speaker 6 And they all had different metrics that they were using. They weren't all together using the same common denominators.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And they probably had minus five for Italian. Yes.

Speaker 1 They bumped you down.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there's just a little asterisk there.

Speaker 9 Are you in favor of expanding the tournament?

Speaker 6 I am because I don't think it hurts it. I don't think it hurts it.
I think getting more teams is exciting. It's the one thing.

Speaker 6 So when I was your age, back in the day, starting out as a head coach.

Speaker 1 We're older than you think.

Speaker 1 We're older than you. We just turned 40.

Speaker 1 We just turned. Early 40s.
We just turned 40.

Speaker 6 So I was going to say 35, 36.

Speaker 1 I appreciate that. So

Speaker 6 back then, college basketball and college football was on the same level. The NBA and the NFL were on the same level starting.
This is like 30, 40 years ago.

Speaker 6 Today, a bad college football game, a mid-May Ohio U playing somebody on a Saturday, will outdraw an NBA playoff game.

Speaker 6 Now, is that gambling? Is it football just marketed so much? But I don't know. But the one thing we do have is March Madness.

Speaker 6 So anything to make it better, if it's not broken, break it and make it better.

Speaker 6 And I don't think it hurts anything to have more TV exposure.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, it is true. Football has completely consumed American culture, unlike anything we thought would be possible.

Speaker 1 And, you know, like it's the debate: is the NBA broken? Is Major League Baseball broken?

Speaker 1 It's like, yeah, maybe they've gone down a little, but I think it's more that the NFL has just taken over everything to a level that we didn't never expect it.

Speaker 6 It blows me away. It really does blow me away.
I'm happy about it in one sense, disappointed in another sense.

Speaker 6 I'm a Miami Dolphins season ticket holder for those two years I was out, and I had a great time going to the games with my children. The bad thing, what I don't like right now is that

Speaker 6 I don't see UCLA and USC traveling to go play Penn State and Rutgers and teams like that. It makes no sense to me.

Speaker 6 The rivalries of UCLA and USC and some of the other programs on the West Coast, to me, I would never be in favor of that.

Speaker 1 It's an odd fit for sure. How do you feel with the NIL and transfer portal? Because it's funny.

Speaker 1 You've gone the reverse of some of your contemporaries where like Coach K has retired, Tony Bennett, like you mentioned, Boeheim, Roy Williams.

Speaker 1 A lot of these guys feel like they've gotten out because of the transfer portal and NIL and having to play a different game. You've kind of almost run into the fire and been like, I'm ready for it.

Speaker 1 I'm ready for the challenge.

Speaker 6 I like it because I spent 10 years in the pros. And to me, it's almost a carbon copy of the EuroLeague.
The EuroLeague, if you sign a player for two years, that's a long time.

Speaker 6 So it's really a one-year contract. You're getting different players every year.
And that's the way it's with us. Now, fortunately for us, we haven't lost our freshmen yet.

Speaker 6 Our freshmen have come back. So this year we're losing, we're not even looking at a high school basketball player.

Speaker 6 We're losing Aaron Scott, Qadari Richmond, and Davon Smith. So we're looking for three transfer guys.
And I like it. I don't get involved in the financial negotiations of any of that.

Speaker 6 But if we need more money,

Speaker 6 I'll call our guy, Mike Rapoli, and say we need more money.

Speaker 1 Yes, he's ready to go. Wait, so you're not even looking at any college or high school?

Speaker 6 No, not this year.

Speaker 1 So if a five-star high school kid calls you up and is like hey no you're not looking for but i want to come to st child i probably wouldn't take him because i i don't think you can win and win big with high school kids huh i don't i really don't believe it sounds like there's one high school kid that's really good that you're right now just saying we don't even want you play hard to get this is smart playing hard to get good recruiting i wish it was through good recruiting yeah that's really smart yeah exactly so so that's the kind of guy that you would want right a guy that was that kept knocking on your door yeah nothing changes if nothing changes.

Speaker 1 So that's an interesting point that you just made, though. Do you think that your time in Greece has made you a better, like have a leg up in the NIL and transfer world in college basketball?

Speaker 6 So we all make mistakes.

Speaker 6 You make mistakes in the pros, but who you draft. You know, I tried to convince the years.

Speaker 6 begged the New York Knicks to take Donovan Mitchell, I think, at six and not at 12. I said, look, this guy's better than you think he is.
And they took Frank

Speaker 6 Nikita or something like that from France, I think it was.

Speaker 6 So you've got to really study these guys. First of all, is it just about money? Is that why they're staying in college? Or are they really into winning?

Speaker 6 Are they going to be part of that I hate to lose attitude? So you've got to really study them. You got to talk to their trainers.
You got to talk to their assistant coaches that may have moved on.

Speaker 6 You've got to really do your homework and your research on this. And we really do our homework on all of this.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because it does feel like there are teams.

Speaker 1 It's kind of like free agency in sports where they've won the offseason and they've got, you know, this transfer and this transfer and the parts just don't fit together.

Speaker 6 And you're in the G League and you're making $75,000 to $100,000, or you can go to college and make $600,000 or $400,000. Yeah.

Speaker 6 So you're going to stay in college, but are you getting them for the right reasons? Okay, the money's great. And most of these guys, what I can appreciate, they help out their families.

Speaker 6 They're not spending it on themselves. They're really helping out their families.
They're getting their families into better situations. So

Speaker 6 I'm great with that. But I want to make sure we're getting guys that just have that desire where they really, really, inside, hate to lose.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 9 And probably also just think about basketball all the time. What's an appropriate amount of time for one of your star players to spend actually working on basketball during the business?

Speaker 6 Here's the greatest hypocrisy of it all. I mean, here the guys are making, I hear stories, I don't believe all of them.
They're making anywhere from $1.5 million to $100,000.

Speaker 6 Now you're going to tell them they can only work 20 hours a week? Right. I mean, it's hip.
The NCAA, I've always said this about them. They are never proactive.
They're always reactive.

Speaker 6 Remember the young man from Connecticut, I forgot his name that he said he was starving at night, the

Speaker 6 six-foot backcourt player. I forgot his name, but he said he was starving at night and he didn't have any money for food.

Speaker 6 And now they started a refueling station where now you can have a place 24 hours a day to have food. So they reacted to his statement.
Right. And they're always reacting.
They're never proactive.

Speaker 6 The fact that we have a 20-hour rule right now is absurd. Now, we don't spend 20 hours now, this part of the season, because we don't want to get injured.
Right.

Speaker 6 But in the beginning, in the summertime, they give you five hours a week. That's crazy.
Eight hours with strength. I think it's four hours, actually.

Speaker 6 Four hours of basketball, four hours of strength training. That's absurd.
Guys are there for the summer to work out, get better, improve it. It's the opposite of the Mamba mentality.
I mean,

Speaker 6 Kobe Bryant, who believes in that, taking it to a a new level. And that's that Mamba mentality.
And I'm a firm believer in everything Kobe Bryant stood for with that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Are your conditioning drills just as hard as they used to be?

Speaker 6 Yeah, but we condition with basketball. I'm not a big suicide guy.
I'm not a big guy running on the track.

Speaker 6 Everything we do is running with a basketball. It's non-stop fast-break basketball.
And that's the way you should condition. Yeah.

Speaker 6 Because basketball is a different form of, you know, I used to be a runner.

Speaker 6 I would run six, eight miles a day and triumph for speed. And And I'd go in the gym and play three on three, and I was exhausted.
It's just a different cardiovascular altogether.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because your teams always are some of the best conditioned teams. I didn't know if, like, getting a little older, you didn't take it as hard on them, because I would hate to see that.

Speaker 6 I run the same practices. I think that there's certain players that I give more of a break to.
Like Kadari Richmond,

Speaker 6 he's not a,

Speaker 6 he's going to save a lot of his energy for games.

Speaker 6 He's going to save it.

Speaker 6 He knows his body. He knows his game.
So I'll take him. I said, you're going 100%.

Speaker 6 I'll get you out, but you're going 100%.

Speaker 6 And he gives it to me. He gives me 100%.

Speaker 9 Yeah, I know you don't yell at referees. You were pretty clear about that with us.
You've never yelled at a referee.

Speaker 1 Once in a while.

Speaker 9 When you're coaching against, like, hypothetically, Danny Hurley, who's giving the ref a piece of his mind, do you feel like you have to step up your game? Maybe occasionally.

Speaker 9 I know you never do it, but you see him doing it and you're like, I got out of it.

Speaker 6 When I ref before the game, I say this to the three guys who come to shake your hand. I said, I'm going to tell you right now, referee the game.
Don't talk to me. Don't talk to him.
That's all I say.

Speaker 6 Because I'm not going to watch you have debates with him the entire night while the game is going on or we're shooting a free throw. That's the only thing I'll say to them.
I said, ref the game.

Speaker 6 Can you imagine you guys are Wall Street brokers and you sit in front of your monitor and it's very intense and you're trading stocks and somebody's yelling at you every every play, every trade, somebody's yelling at you.

Speaker 6 That's a bullshit call.

Speaker 6 And how are you going to focus in on trading that stock and matching up the buy and the sell? So I have a problem with referees because they're always, I got a technical foul.

Speaker 6 First one, I think in a couple of years the other day in the Seton Hall game at Seton Hall because the referee was literally having a discussion with Shaheen for over 45 seconds while they were at a free throw and something.

Speaker 6 They were checking the clock. I said, what are you doing? Referee the game.
And he gives me a technical. He gives Shaheen a technical.

Speaker 6 In the pros, they don't do that. The coach will say something to the guy, and they just walk away.
In the pros, they don't do it. I wish college officials would do it.
Walk away.

Speaker 6 Because what's happening, if you're listening, if that referee is listening to that coach, the TV audience, 18,000 people are saying, that coach is getting the next call.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 9 Does it feel a little bit good, though, to get a technical? Like, bad boy still got it?

Speaker 9 I would feel good about that.

Speaker 1 I would try to get a technical. game just to fire up the guy.
I got teased up by the game.

Speaker 6 As long as it doesn't affect the game, we were up 20 at the time, so I was good.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Fire up the guy.

Speaker 9 Like, sometimes getting a speeding ticket once every couple years. It's like, yeah, got me.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Get the guys going and just being like, look, I'm going to fight for you. I'm going to get a technical, maybe get thrown out of the game.
When was the last time you've been thrown out of the game?

Speaker 6 Probably Louisville, maybe Georgia Tech. Herb Sendek, I think, was my assistant coach.
And I think we won the game. Herb did a great job, who's now at Santa Clara.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Why'd you get thrown out?

Speaker 6 I had enough of them.

Speaker 1 Whenever y'all are upset.

Speaker 1 Never done it before.

Speaker 9 Last year during the tournament, did you watch all the games?

Speaker 9 Did you experience it like we did, sitting at home on a couch, multiple TVs? What was that like for you?

Speaker 6 I told Danny when we played them,

Speaker 6 I said, you're going to win it all for a second time.

Speaker 6 And I thought he had the team. We lost 95-90 to them.
We played him better than anybody else in the tournament. But I I thought, you know, he does a great coaching job, and he had outstanding talent.

Speaker 6 I love the Kid Castle. I love their bigs, small forwards.
They were a terrific team. They scout very well.
They take away your strengths. So I thought they had it to win it a second time.

Speaker 6 Now, you need some breaks. He didn't need them last year.

Speaker 6 But you need breaks to get to a Final Four and win it all.

Speaker 9 Were you on the couch watching all the games, like that Thursday appointment TV?

Speaker 6 Yeah,

Speaker 6 I'm a big fan of March Madness. Big fan.

Speaker 6 I was upset that we didn't get in, but I said, look, I told the team this year, we blew it because early in the year we had a bad loss against Michigan.

Speaker 6 I didn't realize that that would be a quad three or quad four loss.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
You know, they just didn't have it.

Speaker 6 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 It is crazy how that can all turn on you depending on who you lose to early.

Speaker 9 I do love your odds this year, though.

Speaker 1 Love them.

Speaker 9 I think you got a great team.

Speaker 6 Thank you.

Speaker 1 I love them at 30 to 1. Not that I know, but.

Speaker 9 We're enamored with your team. Might have.

Speaker 1 financially well yeah i'm i i like you guys 30 to 1 you went to win a national championship yeah

Speaker 1 we can laugh about it at the beginning

Speaker 1 no this was uh like three or four weeks ago okay it might have been after the ucon game because like i said i watched that whole game and i was just so impressed with you guys coming because i thought watching that game the way you can came out they needed that win and i was like there's this is just a night where st.

Speaker 1 John's got nothing and then you just fought back on that defensive end getting

Speaker 6 good with that, you know, and I think, like, I am so worried about tonight's game with DePaul because I really like this coach from LePaul. I think he's excellent.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 I think he gets the most out of them. They shoot it well.
And coaches like that are dangerous because they get their teams, regardless of their record, to play extremely tough basketball.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's a tough league.
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Speaker 1 Have you been caught? Has anyone in your world

Speaker 1 been contacted by the Indiana Hoosiers? No. Okay.

Speaker 1 No one.

Speaker 6 No one.

Speaker 6 I've had a lot of contacts with professional teams right now from

Speaker 6 Europe. Okay.

Speaker 6 Who were dying to have me back. Got it.

Speaker 1 But the Indiana Hoosiers are looking, I mean,

Speaker 1 Indiana, something about the Indiana job, every name, every big name gets thrown out there.

Speaker 6 Can I give you my pick? Yeah.

Speaker 6 Okay.

Speaker 6 So I'm going to have some people upset at me. If I was the AD at Indiana and

Speaker 6 am I friendly with this person? Yes, I am. Do I have a lot of respect for this person? Yes, I do.

Speaker 6 But I would immediately not even interview anybody else and hire one of the premier coaches in all of college basketball, and that's Chris Beard from Momes. I wouldn't even think about another person.

Speaker 6 He's perfect for that job. He's a tough, hard-nosed.

Speaker 6 The years I was sitting out, I got friendly with him because he asked me to, he didn't know me, I didn't know him, to come out and speak to his team. He was at

Speaker 6 Texas Tech. And I went out and spoke to him, but I watched two days of practice.
And I always judge a coach by his practices.

Speaker 6 And I have to tell you, those are some of the best practices and meetings with his team that I've ever witnessed. So I am a gigantic fan of Chris Beard, and I think he would kill it at Indiana.

Speaker 6 He'd have him in the top five to seven every single year.

Speaker 6 Remember, he brought Texas Tech to the championship game and could have won it if that young man didn't hit that from Virginia, that corner shot. Great shot that he did hit.

Speaker 6 So he's a superstar, top three coach in my estimation.

Speaker 6 I would never hire myself for that job. Okay.

Speaker 9 You would never hire yourself for that job for Indiana.

Speaker 1 Why not?

Speaker 9 Why would he

Speaker 6 belong at St. John's? Yes.

Speaker 9 That's a good answer.

Speaker 1 What's the sign? Last, last question. What's the sign of a bad practice? How quickly can you know that a bad practice is occurring?

Speaker 6 When the players get bored,

Speaker 6 they don't give 100% attention physically and mentally. It doesn't have to be long.
It could be an hour and 20 minutes. It could be an hour when they're all tuned in.

Speaker 6 to the assignment of what the coaches are saying and the coaches, insisted coaches, are totally engaged in every single drill and they maximize their effort with every single drill.

Speaker 6 That's a great practice. Okay.

Speaker 1 I like that. I like that.
We've got to practice hard.

Speaker 9 We have some bad practices here at Barcelona Sports.

Speaker 1 Yes, we've got to practice better. And we have Coach Gruden now.
I don't know if you've seen, but he's on staff. John Gruden.
I know John.

Speaker 6 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Great guy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and he's been giving us the business because we've had some bad practices.

Speaker 6 Yeah, there's another guy who should be back in the NFL without a question.

Speaker 1 Well, we like him here. So maybe a couple more years here and then go back to the NFL.

Speaker 9 Maybe you're part-time in the NFL.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we enjoy watching football with him. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, Coach, thank you so much for coming back. We appreciate it.

Speaker 1 And good luck the rest of the season. 30 to 1.

Speaker 6 Appreciate you having me.

Speaker 1 Let's do it. Let's make some magic.

Speaker 9 We got to cooperate to Gina.

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Speaker 9 Here's Cooper DeGene. And now for something completely different.

Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on a very special guest. He is Super Bowl champion Cooper DeGene.

Speaker 1 Cooper, first of all, thank you. Congratulations.
Thank you for joining us.

Speaker 1 It's been, what, eight, nine, ten days. Has it fully set in? You just told us you're back in Iowa.

Speaker 1 Has it fully set in that every time people say your name now, it's Super Bowl champion attached to it?

Speaker 15 It's set in a little bit, I think. I think I've

Speaker 15 kind of realized that a little bit now.

Speaker 15 But it's still pretty crazy to me to to think about yeah yeah

Speaker 15 especially in in my my first year getting to getting to win a super bowl um is is pretty crazy yeah

Speaker 9 has the hangover gone away yet

Speaker 1 uh it's it's getting there it's getting there i'm slowly recovering slowly recovering so it's uh it's getting there wait so so you're back in iowa right now you're from a very small town what was it like getting but was there a parade or anything i mean this is you you're the most famous thing that's ever come out of your town, I would assume.

Speaker 1 Like, is it weird being back and being like, yeah,

Speaker 1 you guys watched me on Super Bowl Sunday return an interception from Patrick Mahomes to the house? Like, that's got to be kind of crazy. Yeah, there's,

Speaker 15 there's no parade, no parade, but um, I think I, I think I kind of snuck back into town. I don't know if, I don't know if anybody knew I was, uh, knew I was back.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, they know, yeah, they definitely know.

Speaker 9 Yeah, they've been setting up a perimeter since the Super Bowl so that everybody could know when she got back in there. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's got to be awesome, though. Yeah.
Wait,

Speaker 9 how many people live in your hometown?

Speaker 15 Just under just under a thousand.

Speaker 1 Wow. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they know. They know.
Are you going to go to like a basketball game or something? Because

Speaker 1 this is like a storybook movie thing. Like small town hero comes back and you're going to have like an insane welcome and everything.

Speaker 15 Yeah, my brother's got a basketball game on Thursday. Okay.
So I'll get to

Speaker 15 go check that out and see what kind of reception

Speaker 15 there is for me there.

Speaker 9 I have a prediction for the reception. I think that the population of your hometown is going to be slightly above 1,000 in like nine months.

Speaker 1 People are going to be going nuts. Yeah.
That's such a cool feeling. Oh, man.
So, all right. Let's talk about the game real quick.
We have some other topics we want to hit. But

Speaker 1 the pick six, obviously, I would assume you've watched the replay a bunch, but in the moment, it felt like

Speaker 1 you knew exactly where you were going. It was such a great return.
The pick was great, but the return was even better.

Speaker 1 Did it feel like it slowed down for you in that moment where you just kind of saw everything? Because it was a perfect return.

Speaker 15 Yeah, I mean, I think,

Speaker 15 you know, the way, because it was a rollout to the right.

Speaker 15 And I was catching it coming back the opposite way. So it kind of

Speaker 15 just

Speaker 15 fell right into the right lane there. And when I, when I caught the ball, everybody was going the opposite way.

Speaker 15 So I got a, had some big boys out in front, got me some blocks, had to, had to make some, make some miss.

Speaker 15 But yeah, I mean, it seems like it, it worked almost, almost perfectly with, with the way I caught the ball and the way everybody else was running. So

Speaker 1 it was, it worked out pretty well. How many, how many times did you watch the replay?

Speaker 15 So many times.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I love that. just

Speaker 15 it's showed up on my phone so many times i've watched it every time probably

Speaker 1 you got to did you i'm not even i'm not even an eagles fan i i feel like i've scrolled past it probably 50 times on twitter and just watched it almost every time yeah and then then there's uh

Speaker 15 they had all the

Speaker 15 um

Speaker 15 different like different country broadcasts yeah like their reactions

Speaker 15 to it too which was which was cool did you have a favorite of those

Speaker 1 What's that? Did you have a favorite of those?

Speaker 15 I think it's like the...

Speaker 15 It might be like the Mexican one is

Speaker 15 pretty fun to listen to, even though I have no idea what they're saying,

Speaker 15 besides my name.

Speaker 15 I mean, really all of them are pretty cool to listen to.

Speaker 9 Yeah, the Japanese ones always get me fired up. They always sound like they're having the best time in the booth.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Big time.

Speaker 9 Was there a moment where you thought, I'm actually on track to be Super Bowl MVP?

Speaker 15 I did never think about that, to be honest. I didn't see that until

Speaker 15 after the game. Or I didn't realize it until after the game.

Speaker 15 After that pick,

Speaker 15 I was probably pretty high

Speaker 15 on the list to be Super Bowl MVP.

Speaker 15 at that point.

Speaker 15 But, you know, the game Jalen had, obviously,

Speaker 15 he deserved that. But

Speaker 15 I didn't even realize that until after the game.

Speaker 1 Kind of forgot all about it.

Speaker 9 Yeah, we had some guys that we were watching with that took a flyer on you to win Super Bowl MVP.

Speaker 1 They were pumped. They were very, very excited.

Speaker 1 Jersey Jerry was basically like every single time you guys were on defense, he's like, here comes another pick six, and I'm going to win, you know, Super Bowl MVP with Cooper DeGene.

Speaker 1 So he was rooting hard for it. Because one pick six in the Super Bowl, you are like in the discussion almost immediately.
And the game did turn on your pick six.

Speaker 1 Like, that's got to be a cool feeling where it was, it's not only obviously a pick six in the Super Bowl, but that was really the moment that it was like, oh, shit, the Eagles are going to kill the Chiefs here.

Speaker 15 Yeah. Yeah.
I mean, I mean, we got up, we got up 10-0. And then, you know, being able to, you know, anytime you get a defensive touchdown in any game, like, that, that

Speaker 15 changes the tide of

Speaker 15 any game. So, especially in a Super Bowl, being able to go up, you know, 17-0 after a defensive touchdown.
I mean,

Speaker 15 that's huge for any team.

Speaker 15 I think it just helped us just continue to

Speaker 15 roll through that game.

Speaker 9 Yeah, you guys played great defense in that entire game. The week of practice leading up to it, did you think we've got something here? We can we can shut down Patrick Mahomes?

Speaker 9 Like, did you think it could be that good?

Speaker 15 I think everybody had confidence that

Speaker 15 we could put on a good show when we went out there.

Speaker 15 Everybody had a lot of confidence in us. I don't know if we knew it would be by that large of a margin,

Speaker 15 but

Speaker 15 just the week of practice that we had, I think I myself was pretty confident in

Speaker 15 what we would be able to do against them defensively. And we didn't even blitz one time.
We had some blitzes drawn up to run. And when you got those guys up front,

Speaker 15 we never really, never really had to. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. So I got a question in the transition to the nfl you get to the eagles uh your you know first game let's call it first month

Speaker 1 nick siriani it's fourth and two it's fourth and three and you're going for it were you like wait i didn't think this was allowed because you came from iowa and that was just punt no matter what was that a was that a culture shock that had to have been a culture shock Yeah, it was a little different for me.

Speaker 15 A little different for me.

Speaker 1 You know,

Speaker 15 being used to just playing field position

Speaker 15 and

Speaker 15 having our defense

Speaker 15 just keep their offense pinned back and flipping the field once we make them punt. So

Speaker 15 it was a little different for me,

Speaker 15 especially those first few weeks when

Speaker 15 we're around our own 50-yard line and we're just going for it on fourth and three, fourth and four, whatever it is.

Speaker 15 At Iowa,

Speaker 15 that'd be a no-brainer

Speaker 15 punt.

Speaker 15 So, yeah, it was a little different. But

Speaker 15 I kind kind of like the switch up. Yeah.
The aggressive style.

Speaker 1 I imagine you like, like, I just, it's a stupid, obviously, this isn't how it works, but like, you writing back to Iowa, writing a letter being like, you guys won't believe what happens here.

Speaker 1 Like, we don't punt. I've discovered

Speaker 1 going for it. There's a different world out there, and it doesn't involve punting.
But that is Iowa, and you guys do it so well. I also should say

Speaker 1 you. got totally screwed in the Minnesota return.
Yep. I remember I had Iowa in that game.
I was very upset.

Speaker 1 That's bullshit. I don't know if that's still, I don't know if the Super Bowl maybe

Speaker 1 makes it a little easier, but I would still be pissed about that return against Minnesota a couple years ago.

Speaker 15 Yeah, I'm definitely still

Speaker 15 a little upset about that one. Yeah.

Speaker 15 Because it changed, like we could have, it changed our season from a 10-win season to an 11-win season. And that like that puts you in a whole different category, you know,

Speaker 15 at the University of Iowa, at least. So it was, that was, that was tough

Speaker 15 for us. Yeah.

Speaker 9 I was, I was furious as well. Did they tell you what was wrong with that, with your fair catch signal?

Speaker 15 Uh, they said, they said when I was running, and because I was trying to point at the ball, because whenever, whenever the ball is like away from the returner, you don't want other guys to get hit by it.

Speaker 15 So it's, so it's a muff. So I was trying to point at the ball as I was running.
My arm was swinging side to side. And they said, they said that counts as

Speaker 15 an invalid fair catch signal or whatever they said. But that's not even why they went to review it in the first place, which was the frustrating part.

Speaker 15 They were reviewing it to see if I stepped out of bounds, and then they came back with that. So it was,

Speaker 15 I don't know.

Speaker 15 It was pretty frustrating.

Speaker 9 Yeah, it was bullshit. It was bullshit.
We'll say it's bullshit.

Speaker 9 And then you go into the draft process. Were you surprised that the Eagles took you, even though you didn't go to Georgia?

Speaker 15 I had,

Speaker 15 I mean, the Eagles were one of the teams who I actually thought I may end up with.

Speaker 15 I only met I met with them one time on a top 30 visit there, but

Speaker 15 I actually thought I might end up there. I didn't know.

Speaker 15 I didn't know it'd be the way it happened, but I'm glad it happened the way it happened.

Speaker 15 Being able to come in with Q and us being two rookies in the same position,

Speaker 15 I think it helped us both. It made it easier, made the transition easier on us both.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because there's that famous, there's the famous draft night, or not famous, but a draft night video where the Rams traded up and

Speaker 1 the Eagles brass thought that you guys, the Rams were going to pick you. And so it very well could have been.
Like, they're like, that's it. We lost Cooper to Jean because

Speaker 1 they had you circled.

Speaker 1 That's a crazy sliding doors moment. Like, that could have been a completely different career.
You would have still been great, but you wouldn't have maybe won a Super Bowl this year.

Speaker 15 Yeah, yeah, it would have been, definitely would have been a lot different

Speaker 15 playing out in LA. And

Speaker 15 obviously they had a solid season this year,

Speaker 15 but not being able to win a Super Bowl would have been tough. But

Speaker 15 I'm glad it happened the way it happened.

Speaker 15 Now, obviously, I was back then I was

Speaker 15 pretty frustrated having to sit and wait that long, but I'm glad happened the way it happened, and it all worked out. Now I'm a Super Bowl champion.
So, yeah, it's pretty good.

Speaker 9 And you had a great rookie season, too. Who was the hardest guy that you had to cover in the NFL so far?

Speaker 9 Good question.

Speaker 1 Thank you.

Speaker 15 Hardest guy I had to cover. Bro,

Speaker 15 Puka Nakua from the Rams.

Speaker 15 He's a tough cover.

Speaker 15 I don't think Jerry Judy's, he's a quick dude.

Speaker 15 Adam Thielen. Adam Thielen worked me

Speaker 15 in the week we played the Panthers.

Speaker 15 I learned a lot from that game. He's just a savvy, savvy veteran guy who

Speaker 15 gave me some good work.

Speaker 15 That was probably

Speaker 15 one of my tougher games going up against him. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So you also played, obviously, other sports in high school. You were a very good basketball player.
Was there ever a time when you thought, hey, I might do basketball instead of football?

Speaker 1 I also, as an aside, I love whenever the internet finds out, like, oh, Cooper DeGene was really good at basketball. It's like, yeah, he's in the NFL.
He's an incredible athlete.

Speaker 1 I would expect him to also be good at other high school sports. But was there a moment where you were like, maybe basketball is the thing for me?

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 15 I wanted to play basketball, actually,

Speaker 15 coming into high school. I wanted to play basketball in college,

Speaker 15 but I'm not quite, quite not quite tall enough and i'm kind of built more like a football player so and i i've kind of played basketball like like i'm a football player um played downhill and driving to the driving to the hoop and trying to dunk on everybody yeah um

Speaker 15 but i wanted to play basketball but clearly football football was the right out right uh right decision um and i i found that out after my sophomore year yeah um started to pick pick up with uh with football recruiting and and stuff like that so um

Speaker 15 I still play basketball every once in a while, and it

Speaker 15 seems like it's like every couple months

Speaker 15 my basketball highlights will just resurface

Speaker 15 on Twitter or social media somewhere.

Speaker 15 They'll go away for a little bit and then they'll pile back up.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I mean, you...

Speaker 1 You, you, I think it's partially Will Compton's fault, but you do carry a lot of weight for the all-white team that he has put together. It's like Cooper Dejine is

Speaker 1 a very important piece to the puzzle. Yeah.

Speaker 1 We need you.

Speaker 15 Me and Riley Moss.

Speaker 1 My boy, my boy, Riley Moss.

Speaker 1 Kind of shocked.

Speaker 15 I'm outside there. Yeah.

Speaker 9 Because, like, two years ago, when this debate first started to happen, it was like, well, what are we going to do at the outside? Like, get Julian Edelman to come back and then have him play corner.

Speaker 9 And now we've got our, you guys are chess pieces out there. You're white rooks.
Yeah.

Speaker 15 Just

Speaker 15 plug us in there and we're ready to go.

Speaker 9 I love it.

Speaker 9 So I had a question for you about the parade because the parade looked like the best time ever. Who was the drunkest at the parade?

Speaker 15 Oh, geez. I mean, there was,

Speaker 15 I'd probably have to say Nolan Smith.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 15 Nolan Smith or Q?

Speaker 15 Quinyon Mitchell. One of those two guys, but I think Nolan probably takes the cake there.

Speaker 15 I mean, he couldn't even...

Speaker 15 Dude couldn't even walk straight or stand up.

Speaker 15 Might have seen him throw up

Speaker 1 one time

Speaker 15 on the road there. But yeah, it was probably

Speaker 15 Nolan.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
Did you get hit by a can as well? Because I saw Howie Roseman got hit by a can.

Speaker 15 Yeah,

Speaker 15 I had this big ass Bud Light chain

Speaker 15 around my neck. And I went to, I was like throwing beer all over everybody in the crowd.
And the chain came up and hit me

Speaker 15 right in my right in my eye, right above my eyebrow.

Speaker 15 So I got a got a little, got a little battle scar there um but it's it's all good it's it's it's good for the memories yeah yeah when you saw how he get the the canned impression the indentation in his forehead were you like all right he's one of us he's he's basically a football guy yeah he took it he took it like a champ and it uh he used it he used it in his in his speech um at the at the end of the parade which was which was which was funny um but he he uh i think he loved it actually loved having having the having the cut across his his forehead um from the parade yeah yeah it's a battle scar it's great we have a a diehard philly fan here max even though i just want to say for the record during games when you'd be catching punts max would freak out because he didn't think that you'd be able to feel the punts clean that's not that's not true that's not true it is true that's not true it is true i get nervous of all punts punts have to be the highest percentage of turnover play

Speaker 15 i did i did drop one this year but i i didn't didn't lose it don't even remember it

Speaker 1 don't even remember it all right max what do you got what questions you got um

Speaker 2 all right i have a couple here first one i i i can't believe we haven't gotten to it derrick henry hit had had to do that that that didn't make any sense but it was awesome yeah

Speaker 15 feeling i was just lucky that he didn't uh didn't start running full speed before i before i got to him um otherwise that it would have probably hurt even even more uh luckily i caught him right right when he was turning around and I was able to to pick him up and put him to the ground there.

Speaker 15 But if, I mean, that he wasn't even, he wasn't even moving full speed. And that was, I mean, it still hurt me.
I still felt it in my neck and my shoulder. So,

Speaker 15 but yeah, he's a big ass dude. Big ass dude.
But luckily, he wasn't going full speed.

Speaker 2 So right after that hit, you also did the big play, Selly, that kind of went off a little bit after that. Can you explain that?

Speaker 2 I've wanted to know what it is for a long time and I don't get it.

Speaker 15 It's kind of

Speaker 15 more of an in-house. All right.

Speaker 1 That's fair. No, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 You're not in-house, Max.

Speaker 9 Yeah.

Speaker 1 No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 2 The world doesn't need to know. I don't need to know.

Speaker 2 Next thing.

Speaker 2 You got fucked in the LeBron video.

Speaker 2 Does it pitch you off that like two weeks later, you probably would have been like the first person he went up to?

Speaker 1 Explain the LeBron video. The LeBron video.

Speaker 2 Everyone is sitting courtside. I think it's like you, AJ, Devontae, and you're at the end of the row.

Speaker 2 You can see that you're excited to give him a dap, and he just cuts you off right before it gets to you.

Speaker 2 Yeah,

Speaker 15 it was tough. I'm a LeBron guy, too.
I'm a huge LeBron fan, so

Speaker 15 it was tough for me, but

Speaker 15 I didn't expect him to know who I was,

Speaker 15 to be honest. It was

Speaker 1 to be there, really. Yeah.

Speaker 15 And hoping for a little love, but it's all good.

Speaker 9 Has he apologized to you for that yet? Has he reached out and been like, hey, my bad, respect?

Speaker 15 He, uh, not to me directly, but he posted something on

Speaker 15 he commented under some post where someone asked me at the Super Bowl, I think, and uh

Speaker 15 apologized or said, said something

Speaker 15 about it.

Speaker 1 Never meet your heroes, I guess.

Speaker 2 No, that counts. That counts.
That counts. Yeah.
Yeah. You basically dapped him up then.
He realizes it.

Speaker 9 It's an online dap up, yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 9 Any other questions, Max?

Speaker 2 One last one.

Speaker 2 Do you eventually you played mostly nickel this year. Do you eventually want to like move outside or do you are you comfortable in your role now in the defense?

Speaker 15 I uh I like playing nickel. I like playing inside

Speaker 15 being around all the action.

Speaker 15 Hopefully sometime at some point I can I can move to to one of those every down positions, whether it's outside or whether it's

Speaker 15 safety, whatever it may be.

Speaker 15 I hope at some point I can do that,

Speaker 15 and do both maybe.

Speaker 15 Because I like playing nickel. I like being involved in the run game and the screen game.
I feel like

Speaker 15 that's a really important position in a defense, and you can make a huge impact at that position.

Speaker 9 Max just shook his head. No, he said he doesn't want you to move to safety.

Speaker 2 Well, that's just the song.

Speaker 2 The song says you're not a safety. So

Speaker 2 that would ruin the song.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're right. It would

Speaker 1 that would ruin the song.

Speaker 9 Were you the emergency quarterback this year?

Speaker 15 I was not. I was not.
That would have been,

Speaker 15 I would have loved to do that, though.

Speaker 15 I was

Speaker 15 I played a little little offense in college. Obviously played quarterback in high school.

Speaker 15 I miss slinging it around, especially, I mean, could you imagine just going out there and throwing it to AJ and Devontae and those guys, I mean, that we have on offense

Speaker 15 would have been crazy. Yeah, that would have been sweet, though.

Speaker 9 Maybe something to work up towards. Like, maybe two seasons from now, if that's one of your goals, become emergency quarterback.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 15 I have to talk to Coach Siriani about that one.

Speaker 1 Yeah. What was the toughest place to play in the Big Ten?

Speaker 15 In the Big Ten.

Speaker 15 I mean, Nebraska.

Speaker 15 I wouldn't say it was, it was,

Speaker 15 I don't know how tough it was. It was just really loud in there.
Yeah.

Speaker 15 At Nebraska, it gets pretty loud. But once you get up on them,

Speaker 15 it gets pretty quiet in there. And

Speaker 15 that was us quite a bit of the time there when we were playing there. So

Speaker 15 I know Will will appreciate that answer there. Yeah.

Speaker 15 But no, Nebraska is a, it's a fun place to play,

Speaker 15 especially in a rivalry game, and especially when you're beating them.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 What did your dad say to you after on the field? Because that was cool. Like, it was cool seeing the, I saw the picture.

Speaker 1 You guys, everyone got to take pictures with their family in the Super Bowl trophy. It just seemed very

Speaker 1 awesome moment to have your first touchdown in the Super Bowl, and then your parents come down. What did he say? Was he like, I can't believe this happened?

Speaker 15 Yeah, he was.

Speaker 15 Someone actually had taken a video of him in the stands when that touchdown happened. And like, my dad had been my coach

Speaker 15 since I was a little kid. So like I'd never really seen him get overly excited about a play I made.
He was always trying to keep me humble

Speaker 15 and things like that. So

Speaker 15 I saw the video and I'd never seen him get that excited before about a play I made. So

Speaker 15 that was pretty fun to watch.

Speaker 15 And then, you know, getting to celebrate with him and my family down on the field after the game was really cool.

Speaker 15 Just having them experience that moment with me.

Speaker 15 You know, my dad and my parents, you know, they both saw how disappointed I was on that first night of the draft. And especially my dad, you know, he came up to me and told me,

Speaker 15 he said, you know, you remember how disappointed you were on the first night of the draft. And now look where you are.
So

Speaker 15 that was a pretty cool moment there, too. Yeah.

Speaker 1 that's a full circle moment did he say happy birthday yeah it was your birthday too jesus

Speaker 15 that kind of took a back seat yeah i think i think after uh after we won we won the super bowl it was um

Speaker 15 it was more like you know you're you're a super bowl champion rather than you know happy birthday like you're 22 years old now yeah yeah did you get any texts from anybody that just said happy birthday that didn't know that you were playing in the super bowl

Speaker 15 um

Speaker 15 i don't think i did I don't think I did. I got quite a few, so there might be some that I missed, but I don't think I did, which was good.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.

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Speaker 1 When you got drafted, did he hit you up right away? He's like, listen, I got you, my Paison. Has he called you your,

Speaker 1 has he said you're you're paison yet no he he hasn't oh no he hasn't but

Speaker 15 big dom is is probably

Speaker 15 probably the coolest dude you'll ever meet yeah to be honest i saw you got you guys were with him in at the super bowl right yeah yeah

Speaker 1 we came and interviewed lane johnson he came and stopped by and uh he always ends his text to me my paison i'm not italian uh but i appreciate it i'm just honorary with him so yeah he's he's he's one of the coolest dudes I've ever met.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 15 he literally runs the city of Philadelphia. Yeah.
So

Speaker 15 it's great to know a guy like that. Yeah.
Facts.

Speaker 9 What was his intro to you like? Did he describe, like, hey, I'm Big Dom. This is what I do.

Speaker 1 This is my place?

Speaker 15 I mean, kinda.

Speaker 1 Kinda.

Speaker 15 He's got some, he brought me into his office, I remember, and was just telling me all kinds of crazy stories that

Speaker 15 he's heard or been a part of since he's been the security, head security for the Eagles. And

Speaker 15 there's some crazy shit that

Speaker 15 he's done and

Speaker 15 he's helped guys out with. So it's good to have a guy like him on your team.

Speaker 9 He's good at what he does.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. Well, Cooper,

Speaker 1 thank you so much. We appreciate it.
Congrats again.

Speaker 1 If you're ever in Chicago, come by the office, check us out, and we're going to be in Philly for Grit Week. So we'll see you then.
Yeah, sweet.

Speaker 15 Can't wait. Appreciate you guys.
Thank you, Cooper.

Speaker 1 Thank you for your representation. Yes.
Yeah.

Speaker 9 Thanks for my four-year-old son, Chris. He used to think he could only be a quarterback or an offensive coordinator.
Now he sees you.

Speaker 1 He's like, I can be a cornerback.

Speaker 15 Get him on the outside.

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Speaker 11 Scammed earlier.

Speaker 1 What? No.

Speaker 11 I'm usually pretty good at feeling them out, snuffing them out. Oh, no.
But

Speaker 11 it was an easy pass.

Speaker 11 And like my easy pass, I tried to go through a toll recently.

Speaker 1 You got a text?

Speaker 11 And

Speaker 11 for, like, I don't know if it was my balance was down or my card wasn't set up, but it didn't, like, it was going right. It wasn't letting me through.
I had to pay cash. So I got a text that was like,

Speaker 11 pay your easy pass fee.

Speaker 11 And I clicked it. The website looked like the real Easy Pass website.
Put in my information. Shout out to Bank of America, though.
They were on it. They call me right away and were like,

Speaker 11 Someone's trying to take your credit card information. What's going on? Wait, what?

Speaker 1 How did this start?

Speaker 11 It started like, I got a text that was like, pay your easy pass.

Speaker 1 Oh, text.

Speaker 11 Your pay your easy pass, whatever.

Speaker 9 How do you happen to have just driven through a toll thing?

Speaker 11 But I recently had tried to go through, I have an easy pass, and it didn't let me through because of a balance thing. So I thought there was credibility to the text.

Speaker 1 Wow, so they, that's a smart scam.

Speaker 11 Yeah, they, they, and I'm, again, like, I get them a lot. Everyone gets them a lot.
Emails, phishing, whatever it is.

Speaker 11 And I'm, you know, I've never, I've never gotten caught before, and I got caught today. Thankfully, how much did you pay? It was like $7.
I thought it was a one-time like.

Speaker 9 They just stole your credit card, yeah.

Speaker 11 And they just stole my credit card. Damn.
Dirty.

Speaker 1 So did you have to get a new one?

Speaker 11 Yeah, Bank of America was like, but they were, they called me right away. They said suspicious activity.
Was this you? I told them. They're like, yeah, no, that's a scam.
Card canceled.

Speaker 11 We'll send you a new one.

Speaker 9 Yeah, no free ads, but Bank of america is pretty good at that like they'll hit you up and be like hey i think this might be a fraud except when they do it when you're buying something like totally normal like one time i shopped at lo bean and bank of america called me and they're like you're shopping

Speaker 1 you've never bought clothes in your life yeah loan yeah we're detecting some highly sarduous

Speaker 9 behavior sir you bought you bought a sweater Did it have, it had buttons?

Speaker 1 Yeah, this is fraud.

Speaker 1 Hank, that's brutal. That's the worst feeling because you're like, you don't get got and you get got.

Speaker 1 That's not nice. That's not nice.
Okay, back to the tillies. That's not nice.

Speaker 1 So can we, okay, is there any way we can find or start Googling something, like find these guys? Like, they'll all tilly these guys.

Speaker 11 I think they do this with everyone. I think, I mean, I get them a lot.
I get a lot with the emails. I get a lot of random texts.
You have their number.

Speaker 9 They texted you, right?

Speaker 11 No, it was automated. It read like

Speaker 9 automated

Speaker 9 received or whatever.

Speaker 1 You can't call them. Message received.
No.

Speaker 1 Damn. That's great.

Speaker 9 I'd fight these guys, Hank.

Speaker 1 Like, I'll meet these guys over at the Dan Ryan Express Highway. I've driven that highway.
Yeah. I'll go these guys.
I've been on that highway before.

Speaker 9 He knows where I'm going.

Speaker 1 I've done some research. So those guys are dead now because Oldie's going to go after them.
Yeah, these guys want to meet. Tell them to meet me at the bean, no? Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'll come down to the silver. I'll go down to that shiny old bean down there.
Get your ass kicked at the bean.

Speaker 1 Well, he's lucky he doesn't come to St. Patrick's Day and the water's green down here.
Yeah. He wants to play around big dog style.
Let's go. Turn our meat with the big dogs.
Turn the river red.

Speaker 1 All right, PFT, your Fire Fest?

Speaker 9 My Fire Fest of the Week is that there is an asteroid heading towards Earth.

Speaker 1 No, dude. Nah.
Yeah, just chill.

Speaker 9 It's scheduled to hit the planet. potentially in 2032.
And like three days ago, it was a 1% chance. Then a couple days later, it was 2%.

Speaker 9 What month? Then a couple days later, it was 3.1%.

Speaker 11 You know what I'll be doing in 2032?

Speaker 11 What?

Speaker 1 Chilling. What month? Chilling.

Speaker 1 is very important?

Speaker 9 Let me look it up.

Speaker 1 PFT, Hank. Because it can't be during football season.

Speaker 9 So I agree with that. I think what I read was December, which would be, it would be so brutal if your team is good and you're gearing up for a playoff push and then asteroid.

Speaker 9 Like, this tells me this has like a Brown Super Bowl run written all over it, and then the asteroid shows up.

Speaker 1 Damn. This ain't good.
No.

Speaker 9 So now it's up to 3.1%.

Speaker 1 Browns?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 9 I mean, it would be a team that you wouldn't expect having a team.

Speaker 1 He's taking this like it's fact right now. Yeah.
Oh, man.

Speaker 1 Oh, no.

Speaker 1 No, P, just chill. Get off the Google.
Don't worry about it, brother. We got you.
Just being strong with the boys together. Yeah, so chill up.
We're with your buddies, Jim.

Speaker 1 Just get off the Google, man. Hang with us for a couple minutes.
Yep. Yeah.
So it's facts.

Speaker 9 They said that it's going to hit either someplace in Africa, maybe someplace in South America. My money's on the water.
Yeah. That thing's going to hit the water.

Speaker 1 Absolutely. There's more water than land.

Speaker 9 Yeah, good point. We just see, we send Bennington out there and just have him catch it.
Slav savings.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 gotta go. Pick it up and go.
Freeze and whistle. Freeze and whistle.
Listen, Pete, don't worry about that stuff. You gotta remember, these are the, like what you're reading right now.

Speaker 1 Like, what kind of, well, like, check your facts. Who are these pickle sticks? NASA.
It's NASA. Come on, kick rocks, dude.
This is some pickle stick behind the computer.

Speaker 1 These are like these Tommy tough guys that run their mouth behind the computer and then they want to dance and then you show them, show up to the dance.

Speaker 1 Yeah, these birds just got to show up to the dance. You show up to the dance to see if

Speaker 1 you want a salsa you want a little side shuffle probably not they're not showing up because they're sticking at home they're trying to scare crushing crushing some soda pop some bags of chips you know what i mean fingers are crazy

Speaker 1 hammering away on the computer oh these guys that's what's coming they're never gonna make it suck off buddy suck right off oh all right my fire fest is uh i uh

Speaker 1 Great vacation, except for I had one moment. I was the hottest I've ever been gambling in college basketball.
And I went down with friends,

Speaker 1 a few couples, and two of my friends decided to fade me when I was 16 and 4 in college basketball. And they faded me on a pick.
I ended up winning. So I went to 17 and 4.

Speaker 1 But I think I'll probably, I told them straight up, I was like, if our friendship was 100%, it's 98% for the rest of our lives. Yeah, 2% loss.
2% loss. Not a lot, but it's big in the scale.

Speaker 9 That's an asteroid-sized loss.

Speaker 11 Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's big in the scale. Because you said 1%, and now it's going up, supposedly.
They did gain 1% back because

Speaker 1 people seeing over my shoulder, they're probably wondering what the fuck this is.

Speaker 1 My friends gave me a gift for my 40th birthday. Wicked.

Speaker 1 It is the day I was born, January 30th, 1985, happened to be also Dam Reno's wedding day. So they got me a picture from Dam Reno's wedding day.
That is so incredible right there.

Speaker 1 So I have good friends, but they did fade me, so we lost a little bit of friendship.

Speaker 9 Yeah, Dan Reno.

Speaker 1 His first wife. His first wife.

Speaker 1 Finkel is Einhorn. Einhorn is Finkel.
Yeah.

Speaker 9 How many wives has he had?

Speaker 1 Only one. But it is his first wife.
Was she covering her face, like kind of being embarrassed? Like, he never did it? Was she going to win?

Speaker 1 Like, what happened down in Miami?

Speaker 1 Like, I don't want to bring it up, Dan, Mr. Mourino.

Speaker 1 Lace is out. He knows.

Speaker 1 He knows Lace is out.

Speaker 9 I'm embarrassed to be seen marrying this guy who can't win the big one. Can't win the big one.

Speaker 1 Who can't do it? Like, how many opportunities you got to go to the dance? He's going to show up. This is the only ring he'll ever get? Yeah.
Oh.

Speaker 1 That's why he knows Lace is out. Yeah.
Yeah. But so I got 1% back, so 99%.
But yeah, you can't

Speaker 1 get an all-time heater, and they were asking for my picks. They were like, give me your picks.
I gave them my picks, and then they faded one of them. I can't ask for picks and then faded.

Speaker 9 I could tell Big Cat was actually mad about this. I was.
Because I went downstairs in this casino and I walked past their table where they were playing. I think you guys were playing.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. Great game.
A great casino game.

Speaker 9 He said, what's up to the crew? And then Big Cat saw me, and And the first thing he said to me was, PFT,

Speaker 9 what would you rate this as a friend move if you're hot at gambling and then one of your friends fades you? And then his friends got very defensive about it. I could tell Big Cat was actually mad.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I was right, though. 16 and 4.
And they asked for my picks. And then they fade.
Listen, if someone fades me, just.

Speaker 11 I would never. No, but Hank, you don't.

Speaker 1 When we're on the opposite side, it's not because you're asking for picks. We bet the opposite side.
That's totally different.

Speaker 1 When you ask, like, can you give me your pick? Yes. And then just go the exact opposite.
If you were 16 and four.

Speaker 1 You would fade me? Yes. Well, I went 17 and four.
Wow. Yeah, they missed out.
You got to understand, though, Kat, where my boy Hanky's coming from.

Speaker 1 Oh, he's a troll. Yeah, but you're 16 and 4, bro.
Your breaker point of 500, dude. You're like skeptical.
But are you going to show up to the date? Are you going to show up?

Speaker 1 Are you going to be a little bit more picky?

Speaker 1 Just stay on vacation. Hold on, Oldie.
But here, more context. They took the 16 and 4 picks.
Like, they were riding with me. So they had already won money.

Speaker 9 They were trying to time the market.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you can't do that. Like, they had already, they're trying to get rid of it.
They're riding your coattail. They're riding.
They're riding my coattails.

Speaker 1 And then they're like, ah, we're getting off right here. No, no, no, no.
Oh. You got to stay on.
So they wanted it. They wanted to.
They want to spoil. Oh, I'll bet you.
Yeah. You lose.

Speaker 1 And then you try to re-bet, and the guy says, no, no, no, I don't want to bet. Yeah.
What do you mean you don't want to bet? Just because you won.

Speaker 1 But they did make it back with the Damn Marino. It's a good picture.

Speaker 1 We need to get it signed. Well, you know,

Speaker 1 at first, I was not happy with him, but they're back in my books. Yeah, all right, good.
They're back at at 99. So, Holdie,

Speaker 1 do you have a Fire Fest? Oh, man. What do I got this week? What do I got this week? It's been a long heck of a week.
I've been bumping and grinding with the snowplow like 14 days straight.

Speaker 9 I do have a question about that, about leaving work. So, you're coming down here to watch the game with us on the podcast.

Speaker 1 This is his show now.

Speaker 9 And what did you tell your boss? I said,

Speaker 1 I got PFT coming in, Kat, on my show.

Speaker 1 And you know what I mean? Hank's going to be there, but I mean, I got to go. I got stuff to do with the boys.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so my shift 7 to 3.30. And I looked at him about 3, 12, 3, 14.

Speaker 1 Said, Henry,

Speaker 1 I'm not here tomorrow or Friday. I got a phone call.
I got to go. What do you mean, Nigo? What do you mean? I got to go.
I'm out of here, bud.

Speaker 1 No problem, Ryan. No problem.
Just write it down. Beauty.
My boss at work, actual butte.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, he's butte.

Speaker 1 Basically, I think it's kind of good for him because I'm not there. So it's kind of like a throw.

Speaker 1 He's like, yo, this is awesome. Okay, wait, the kid's gone.
We're having a pizza. So I took off a couple Fridays ago because I had to go Friday.
I think I went somewhere. And

Speaker 1 obviously I went somewhere, right? Because I wasn't there. Think about it.
So I said, I got to go. I'm out of here.
And he's like, well. All right.
Guys, by the way, pizza party Friday.

Speaker 1 Because he knew the kid wasn't in.

Speaker 1 Oh, that's me.

Speaker 1 What a move, eh? Yeah. And I said,

Speaker 1 boys, enjoy the pizza. Your boy's out.

Speaker 1 I'm going ice fishing i'm out of here gotta go okay so it was ice fishing oh so that that was a couple weeks ago but that was the worst the boys we caught nine fit the boys caught nine fish i had the biggest fish in lake nipissing on my line my buddy's on the sonar watching it oh oh he sees the fish coming across the line oh and i'm trolling i'm just dipping, dipping, dipping and dunking, dipping and dunking with my rod.

Speaker 1 Shablams. He hits me.
Wing, the rod gown goes right right away. Brady would have loved this story, but he just catches 3.4 bassers.
So my rod is wheeled.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
It's wheeled right down. We can't cranking, cranking, cranking.

Speaker 1 Bing! Right up in the air. No, no, I lost it.
The biggest fish in Lake Nibisingen, way up north with the boys. Devastating the whole thing.
Total life, you

Speaker 1 that's your firecrest. Yeah, it was terrible.
I had a hoot with the boys, though. We had a blast out there.
We were in an ice fishing cabin on the lake. I drove my truck right into the lake.
Wow.

Speaker 1 Left it there. Two-day banger with me and the boys.
My broski. Oh, yeah.
It was awesome. That's incredible.

Speaker 9 It was great. What's the sleeping situation like in there?

Speaker 1 Oh, so check this. It's like six mana in there.
We got a propane tank. We got a little stove.
We got a little jug thing of water. So we're sleeping on the bottom bunk.

Speaker 1 You know, the kid's a big boy out there, so. We're calling bottom.
No one wants to die from the top end, right?

Speaker 1 So we're in the bottom bunk. One of the guys stayed in the top and he wasn't feeling good.
It was hot as shit up there, right? Because the heat rises.

Speaker 1 So the next day, the guy's like, we went, he slapped upstairs. And about an hour and a half in, he started feeling like shit.
He went outside, puke rallied shit outside.

Speaker 1 And a little shitter outside was an outdoor shitter. So he went and did a shit puke rally.
And I could hear him from the inside of the cabin. It's a 10 by 20 little shack.
And he's in a 3x3 shitter.

Speaker 1 He's got to walk out of the front to the back side and go to the 3x3. So he's in there and you just hear the puke rally.

Speaker 1 Everything. And I go, Jake, are you all right, my guy? He said, oh, I don't feel good.
Like, I got poisoning. So I said, okay, he came back in.
I felt bad. So I said, I'll go in the top bunk.

Speaker 1 You ride the bottom bunk, eh? And about an hour into my shift upstairs, I'm sweaty, sack balls. You think the pocket pussy was something? No, it was juicy up there, boys.

Speaker 1 I had to get out of the shack. I went to the truck, fired her up at about 1 o'clock, 1.30.
And I slept in the truck. I hear a knock on the window 5.30 in the morning.
Oldie. Oli.

Speaker 1 What's up?

Speaker 1 How long have you been in the truck for?

Speaker 1 A couple hours. Holy shit, shit, it's hot in the room, eh? I said, yeah, yeah, I'm okay.
Shut her off, went back in, bang with the boys. Baking and eggs.

Speaker 1 Baking and eggs by 6.30.

Speaker 1 That's awesome. All right, that was a great Fire Fest.
Yep. Oldie, you're the best, man.
I don't think this is the last we'll hear from you.

Speaker 1 All right, last thing we do, Oldie.

Speaker 1 Numbers. So this is a lottery ball machine.
So we have this. We've done this for five years now.

Speaker 1 Going on five years.

Speaker 1 Memes sitting next to you has never gotten it. He's never gotten it.

Speaker 1 Pretty insane. But you can guess any number, oldie, from one to a hundred.
I'll let you we'll let you go first. So you just guess, and then we're all gonna guess numbers.
I've never gotten it.

Speaker 1 Oh, man. Memes, really? Yeah.
It's a long ride, dude. Five years and one of 100, nothing.
Never banged it. Some say it's more impressive to not get it.

Speaker 9 They get it all.

Speaker 1 They get it all the time.

Speaker 1 This is like winning the lottery, like getting struck by lightning instead of winning the lottery. No, they get it all the time.
It's so easy.

Speaker 11 No, it's like when people that win the lottery say that it's actually bad, but like you'd much rather win the lottery.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's just bullshit on the inside here. Yeah, we can lose up right now.

Speaker 1 You don't win anything. Right.

Speaker 1 Well, my favorite move is stand-up 69 with me on the opposite end on the backside.

Speaker 1 So you don't, like, who doesn't love that upside down? You're just hanging away, right?

Speaker 1 But, I mean...

Speaker 1 Also, I'm number four guy. That's a big number for me.
Like, I'm all about number four. So are you going four or 69?

Speaker 1 I think I got a good five on the stand-up 69 right now, but I got to go back to home base, I think, sometimes the four-banger. Okay, so you're going four.
We've got to go four-banger. Yeah, all right.

Speaker 1 Uh, everyone else? I'll go 69. I'll go 44.
I'll go three. I like it.
I'll go 99.

Speaker 1 No, actually, I'll go 4D.

Speaker 1 40. All right.
I'll go 100, Pug.

Speaker 9 Oh, Pug, I didn't see you in there. You get 99.

Speaker 1 I'll give you 99. I didn't see you.
No, no, no.

Speaker 9 It's yours.

Speaker 1 I will take 66.

Speaker 9 I'll take 99, Pug. Also, watch

Speaker 9 PMTV to watch all the behind-the-scenes of oldie.

Speaker 1 Yeah, incredible. A lot of good stuff.
Yeah.

Speaker 9 44.

Speaker 1 A lot of liquid out of the bag. No, I have 44 white for it.
Yeah, yeah, white.

Speaker 1 You got to figure that out, Whiteberg. Great hot.

Speaker 13 71.

Speaker 1 All right. Here we go.

Speaker 1 Oh, this is exciting. This is like, this is a bubbler in the stomach.

Speaker 1 Come on, four-banger. Show the boys what's on.
Let's do this. What it means, Pat.
69.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 61. Oh, thank God.
61. My boy, Rick Nash.
How do you do? That's his number? That's my boy's number. Absolutely.

Speaker 1 How are you going to lick it?

Speaker 1 Come on, absolutely. My boy just popped up.
Are you kidding me right now?

Speaker 1 I should have said Nasher. You know why I should have said Nasher? Because the 2010 gold medal, 2014 gold medal Olympics.
Tonight, all star break, according to some.

Speaker 1 But as we know, as a broadcast, Four Nations on ESPN Live and Buggers. Okay.

Speaker 1 He was FaceTiming Rick Nash, who he's been childhood friends with, and Rick Nash said that he has gotten more texts today than when he won the gold medal. Because everyone's like,

Speaker 1 what the hell is oldie doing at the Barkstall offices? Like, what is happening? This is beautiful. Love it.
All right.

Speaker 9 Thank you, 61.

Speaker 1 Beautiful. I should

Speaker 1 I should have taken my boy.

Speaker 1 You're lying on your back. I know.
I know. And I went with my home barn number four, but great ride here tonight.
Great ride, guys. Thank you, Oldie.

Speaker 9 Thanks, thanks, Oldie. Love you guys.

Speaker 1 Love you.