Spice Adams In Studio, NFL Week 3 Picks And Preview, Shohei 50/50, Aaron Rodgers Is Back And Fyre Fest Of The Week

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Speaker 1 On today's part of my take, we have a very great interview with our good friend, recurring guest, Spice Adams in studio. Awesome conversation with Spice, talking football, talking everything,

Speaker 1 the internet, everything you can think of. We're going to do our NFL week three picks and preview across the league.

Speaker 1 Fantasy Lad Boys, Fire Fest, and we're gonna talk Thursday night football, maybe a little Wode, Shohei, great show sending you into the weekend.

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Today is Friday, September 20th, and Aaron Rodgers is back.

Speaker 1 The Batman is back.

Speaker 6 He looked good. He looked good tonight.
Even was vintage Aaron Rodgers getting into it with his coach a little bit on the sidelines after throwing a touchdown pass. I don't know what that was.

Speaker 6 We can speculate. It's fun to speculate.
Memes, I'm curious to hear. When you saw that, what did you think? Well,

Speaker 1 before memes answers that, PFT, first of all, PFT, for the first 10 minutes of the show, is on Zoom because he's in Austin for Pup Punk. Go check him out tonight.
Rest of the show, we're in studio.

Speaker 1 Before he explains it, that actually, it was a verbal meme.

Speaker 1 Robert Salah is Hank and Aaron Rodgers is memes because they got in a tussle earlier today, too. So there's a lot of tension going into tonight's game, but memes, how are you doing with Hank?

Speaker 1 And how are you doing with Aaron Rodgers going after Robert Salah?

Speaker 6 Which one should I do first?

Speaker 1 Whichever one you want.

Speaker 1 I think me and Hank are good.

Speaker 1 There's no problem.

Speaker 1 There's no problem.

Speaker 1 I just get really fired up during these days, and then I take things wrong

Speaker 1 a lot. Yeah.
PFT, I walked into the gambling cave tonight, and Memes was, he was the Arthur meme. He was holding with his fist, just like trembling.
And I was like, what's up, Memes? How you doing?

Speaker 1 He's like, nothing. I just wanted to fight Hank earlier.
And I was like, oh, okay, cool.

Speaker 6 Sounds good. A little bit that I saw, it looked like he wanted to fight Mincy, too.
Yeah. Memes was doing a lot.
He had to kick a lot of ass tonight.

Speaker 1 Yeah. No, Mincy did a good job.
Yeah. Yeah, I mean, the game was so bad.
The Jets were so much better than the Patriots that we had to do the blindfold.

Speaker 1 But, Memes, address the Robert Salah and Aaron Rodgers, beef.

Speaker 1 There is no beef. Okay.
Similar to you and Hank. Yes, zero beef.

Speaker 1 They were just talking it out. I imagine Aaron Rodgers wanted to run something else

Speaker 1 on the down before. I didn't see it because I was blindfolded.

Speaker 1 I also didn't see the push, but I'm sure everything's fine. Okay.

Speaker 6 That's probably not far off from what really happened because Aaron Rodgers looked like he did not want to run anything the Jets were calling for him.

Speaker 6 Aaron Rodgers just wants to run the Aaron Rodgers coached offense. So he was, you could see on the sidelines, Hackett didn't look happy either.

Speaker 6 Hackett, like they were, they were beating the shit out of the Patriots, and Hackett had this 100-meter stare on his face where he was just like, I guess this is good because we're winning, but like it'd be nice if if they used my ideas.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was,

Speaker 1 where's Max going? Oh, Max is fixing something.

Speaker 1 The Patriots are bad. I think, Hank, you can officially say you're all the way out.
I think we're going to look back at week one.

Speaker 1 That will be our week one circle that game and be like, whoa, what happened there? Well, and overtaking the game.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we almost were 2-0. Yeah, but it was the Jets were just way better.
I mean, they moved the ball easily down the field. The Patriots' offensive line is horrendous.

Speaker 1 I actually now agree with Hank that you probably shouldn't have Drake May out there because he'll get killed, even though he did play mop-up duty and didn't look.

Speaker 7 There's still 46 seconds left in this game.

Speaker 1 I would love

Speaker 7 to love to be the first person on this podcast with a rookie QB touchdown.

Speaker 6 I would not like that.

Speaker 1 No, they looked horrible.

Speaker 7 Their offensive line looked worse than the Bears.

Speaker 7 Jacoby never had more than one second to throw. They missed a ton of tackles on defense.

Speaker 7 Aaron Rodgers, it really did feel like Bizarro World World watching one of the best quarterbacks just do whatever he wants with

Speaker 1 every third down. It doesn't feel good, Hank.

Speaker 1 It doesn't feel good. Yeah, no, it doesn't.
It feels helpless. It does.
It feels helpless. It certainly does.

Speaker 6 Hank, what's your attitude towards fans of Aaron Rodgers right now that are just like, yeah, I'm better than you because my quarterback's better?

Speaker 1 They are. They're right.
I would feel the same way. I get it.

Speaker 7 Like, if you're the Jets,

Speaker 7 you're just thinking yaws. You're thinking, you know, what's going to happen happen?

Speaker 1 Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 6 I will say that I agree. Jacoby Brissette is the right person to be starting.

Speaker 6 Jacoby Brissette fills a very valuable role, which is just to stand there and take a beating and look semi-competent while beating it.

Speaker 6 So, like, Drake May, if he were in there, he would take a beating and not look competent while doing it. But Jacoby is good at taking shots and occasionally completing a couple passes.

Speaker 1 This is going to be such bullshit. He's going to throw a touchdown pass, PFT.
He's about to throw a touchdown pass. They're not even.
Oh, they sacked him. Just stop.
Don't let this happen.

Speaker 1 Hank is going to just be the worst about this.

Speaker 1 Oh, his helmet came up. He's got to come off the field.
I wish it was college rules. Wait, sorry, PFT.
I was focused on the fact that... You want me to say the whole thing again?

Speaker 6 Well,

Speaker 1 Hank was just going to have that moment over us forever if he had thrown a touchdown pass there. Yeah, what were you going to say?

Speaker 6 No, I was saying that Jacoby Brissette is the right choice to be starting back there because he fills a very valuable role, which is to stand back there, be robust, take a beating, and then get up and then complete the next pass after he gets the shit kicked out of him.

Speaker 6 Yes. Whereas Drake May, if he were back there, he would get the shit kicked out of him and then look incompetent afterwards.

Speaker 1 Yes, yes. So, Hank, this actually was a blessing for you because

Speaker 1 you're all the way out. Yeah.
It's back to tank mode.

Speaker 7 Yeah, we have no offensive line, bad defense.

Speaker 7 Rookie head coach. What can you expect with a team like this?

Speaker 1 Okay, so back to back to golf season.

Speaker 1 Get ready to learn golf.

Speaker 7 No, no, no. Golf season is over.
I'm just, you know, I'm thinking hungry dogs. I'm looking at hungry dogs, trying to win some bets.

Speaker 6 Yeah.

Speaker 7 Paying attention

Speaker 7 to the draft boards.

Speaker 6 So, well, the good news is you won't have to watch them on Sunday. But then in the subsequent weeks, is there a world where we don't have the Patriots game on TV, and you would be okay with that?

Speaker 7 Yeah, I mean, I'd probably just go watch it somewhere else. I don't know.
But yeah,

Speaker 7 if it's week eight and we're one and six.

Speaker 1 Next week is at 49ers.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I mean, that's just

Speaker 1 Dolphins, Texans. Bloodbath.

Speaker 7 Bloodbath. Yeah, that's.

Speaker 7 I'm not going to be able to get up for any of those games. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You are true.

Speaker 1 I was up for this game.

Speaker 7 I was up for this game. I was thinking, again, like, I love beating the Jets, beating the Dolphins, beating the Bills, division opponent.
We've had their number forever.

Speaker 7 Memes was, the tension was because Memes was nervous that it was going to keep happening.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no,

Speaker 7 he thought he had the boogeyman on his mind.

Speaker 1 Memes was in an impossible spot tonight, PFT, because

Speaker 1 he

Speaker 1 lives and dies with the Jets. He knows this window is very small with Aaron Rodgers, and Hank was sitting there like, I might not even be in on this season.

Speaker 1 So if the Patriots had somehow beaten the Jets with Memes like ready to fight Hank, it could have, it could have gotten physical.

Speaker 1 And I said it during the stream, but Memes is probably the top of my list list of of people who work in this office who i could see them getting in a fist fight in this office and then me being like hey what happened and be like i don't know man i'm sorry things just got away from me and i just like all right yeah the jets the jets happened hank looked

Speaker 6 i would completely understand now hank this is like further education of how to be a loser and you're gonna have to listen to me and big cats advice on this but one thing that you're gonna get into as a fan of a losing team is you're just gonna have have to like scratch and claw to find joy so there might be one good team that you guys will beat, and maybe you'll beat them next year, and maybe you'll beat them the year after that.

Speaker 6 And some reason you always beat one really good team. Then at the end of the day, you could be like, yeah, well, guess what? It's like what the Dolphins used to do to you.

Speaker 6 No matter how bad the Dolphins were, they could be like, yeah, well, we always beat the Patriots. So you're going to have to figure out what that, maybe it's the Bengals.

Speaker 6 Maybe you just, maybe you guys just have the Bengals number and you can start feeling happy about that.

Speaker 7 Any division win would be would be fun because it would piss off Dolphins, Bills, Jets, all playoff contending teams. I guess Dolphins, maybe not.
But either way,

Speaker 1 season's over. Spoiler.
Season's over. Memes, your team looks awesome.
That win was very delicious. Ooh, delicious.
All the insult stats were going around.

Speaker 1 We were 0-7 on primetime games against New England. There's no Bill Belichick anymore.

Speaker 1 Wait, was this the first time you guys beat them in a decade? I believe so. Oh, my God.
On prime time. Wait, did you beat him? Oh, no, no, but when did you beat him? Did you beat him last year?

Speaker 1 Final game, Bill Belichick's final game as a Patriot. That's right.
That's right. That was when you did that.
Okay. So, yeah, this is good for you, memes.
You got your swagger back.

Speaker 1 It feels like all the angst from week one is gone now. You're two and one.
You had an impossible start to the schedule in the fact that you played three games in 10 days.

Speaker 1 And now you get the Broncos at home. Broncos at home.
Hopefully you start three and one.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Broncos, Vikings at home, Bill's at home. You guys might start rolling a little.
Offense looks good. Yeah.

Speaker 6 Defense started to look good today.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Special Deems is firing. We have a good offensive line.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Morgan Moses going down was troublesome. That was bad, especially because we were blindfolded for that.

Speaker 6 A lot of people are saying

Speaker 1 best case scenario is MCL sprain. Okay.
That's not good. And then worst case scenario is just his entire knee.

Speaker 1 But you have a first-round pick that is coming in as backup. Yeah, Ulu Fashanu.
Yeah. Max said he's the best offensive line.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 And you guys did blitz a a lot tonight, so it's not like you missed having a dominant pass rusher.

Speaker 6 You blitzed way more than Robert Salah has ever blitzed, I think, in his entire career as a head coach.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think we're fifth in the league in defensive pressures. Wow.

Speaker 1 That's what happens when you get Bryce Huff off your team.

Speaker 1 Oh, he was very good. And then once we saw Hassan sign Hassan,

Speaker 1 watch out. Hyper drive.
Hyper drive. Oh, you don't want to say

Speaker 1 that. Hyper drive.

Speaker 1 You don't want to say it.

Speaker 6 Do you think this win makes it more likely or less likely that you'll sign Hassan Reddick in the next week? Less likely, because we played the Broncos.

Speaker 1 Yeah. The window to sign him is before the Vikings week or lose to Vikings and then sign him right after.

Speaker 6 Okay, that's the plan.

Speaker 1 So you have a loss scheduled and then to sign him. Yeah.
Okay.

Speaker 6 That like wouldn't beat the worst loss is what you're saying. Or load up before the Vikings with him and then beat the Vikings.

Speaker 1 Got it. Okay.
I like that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was an ugly, terrible game. It was Thursday Night Football is all the way back.
And the Jets look good. And Hank, it's over.

Speaker 1 We should talk quickly two other things before we do our NFL preview. Shohei Otani went 50-50.
He's actually 51-51 now. He had three home runs, six for six, three home runs, 10 RBIs.

Speaker 1 The dude is just insane. I don't really know what else to say besides he's the best baseball player in the world, and it's crazy that he still

Speaker 1 could be of all time. I mean, if he keeps doing his career, and there still is, is there still like an outside chance he could maybe pitch this postseason?

Speaker 1 I know that he was practicing in the bullpen. He's done all of this.
He's 51-51, never been done in the MLB. And oh, yeah, when he decides he wants to pitch again, he's like three ERA pitcher.

Speaker 6 Yeah, it's actually insane. I'd say that he is the best baseball player of all time.

Speaker 6 Whether or not he'll have the best career of all time time is kind of up for grabs, but we've never seen anybody that's doing what he's doing. It's insane.
50 home runs, 50 stolen bases.

Speaker 6 If he was a starting pitcher, he would be one of the probably top 10 starter in the entire MLB. It's crazy.
It's crazy.

Speaker 6 We're almost getting desensitized, but shout out to the guy that caught the 50th home run because he just left the stadium. He's like, I'm not giving it back.
I'm not talking to anybody.

Speaker 6 Here's my number. And you can reach me.
You can contact me through my lawyer. And I know that Shoe Hay's got money.
I know what his contract is.

Speaker 6 He's got so much money that he could afford to be swindled out of, what, like $5 million and not miss it.

Speaker 6 So, yeah, I'll just hang on to this at home. Give me a call and make me an offer.

Speaker 1 So, wait, was that Darren Revelle? Because that is his advice that he always gives to everyone.

Speaker 1 If you catch a consequential home run, just leave the stadium right then and there and do not let anyone negotiate with you. So, it might have been Revelle who caught it.

Speaker 6 It might have been Revelle, or maybe Revelle is his agent.

Speaker 6 Maybe Clit has gotten into the agent business.

Speaker 1 I wouldn't be surprised. But yeah, insane, insane season.

Speaker 6 Listen, Dodgers, I'm not going to speak with you about this. You can talk to my Clit.

Speaker 1 That's what Ravel would say.

Speaker 1 He's just the best. It's the best.
And I can't wait for the Dodgers to lose in the first round and then everyone to complain and say the playoff structure is broken.

Speaker 1 But we'll always have this 51-51 from Shohei.

Speaker 6 I mean, it is pretty impressive. It's crazy.

Speaker 1 It's crazy. It's crazy.

Speaker 1 And then the last story, Woj has retired. So this happened on Wednesday afternoon.
Woj is retiring. He is,

Speaker 1 if you followed along what Shefty and some of the other insiders said,

Speaker 1 you would have thought that Woj had just done 30 years at war with how they were describing it. Shefty was laying it on pretty thick.

Speaker 1 Add that to the list of things that we're going to make fun of him for at the Combine. But Woj is retiring.
He's going to be the general manager of St.

Speaker 1 Bonaventure's basketball, and he's getting his life back. He's getting his life back.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I mean, Woach was the greatest to ever do it when it comes to the NBA scoop game. That's for sure.
Like, Shams, big-time come up for Shams, having Woach step away. Now it's like a one-man show.

Speaker 1 Was Shams part of the reason why Woach stepped away?

Speaker 6 Because Woach didn't like the competition.

Speaker 1 I don't know if it was competition, but Shams, you know, is

Speaker 1 McAfee's insider on ESPN, and they used to take little shots at him. I don't know.

Speaker 6 Maybe. I think if Shams was any of the reason why, it's just because he made Woj have to work so hard because Woj could coast before Shams was around, but iron sharpens iron.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 And in this case, Woj, I think he proved himself like, I would say Woj was still the number one NBA inside over the last couple of years.

Speaker 1 But that,

Speaker 6 like, we talked to him and the hours that he has to put in, it's insane. So he's essentially retiring from a dream job to take another dream job, being the general manager for his alma mater, right?

Speaker 6 Yeah. He went to school there.
And I think his job is just going to be tweet about a recruit, just like tag a recruit on Twitter, and it goes out to his six and a half million followers.

Speaker 6 And then the recruits, like, damn, that's awesome. Woach just tweeted about me.
Yeah, it's nice. I think they'll go to St.
Bonaventure.

Speaker 1 It's a big come-up for St. Bonnie's.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no,

Speaker 1 he's going to do the NIL roster management, possibly, but good for him.

Speaker 1 He gets his life back.

Speaker 1 It was tough sledding, you know, being an insider. And it actually, I mean, we interviewed Woge.
We obviously are friends with Schefter. We've had Shams on.
We like him as well.

Speaker 1 Their jobs do seem miserable in terms of the fact that they can just never turn off their phone.

Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 6 He's got multiple phones that he always has to have on. He has to stay up late all the time.
He just lives in constant fear of getting scooped by somebody.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and I think Shams will probably go to ESPN, right? Because like I said, he is friends with McAfee, and

Speaker 1 he seems like the top free agent now. Like, ESPN's got to scoop him up.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I guess so. I mean, I don't know.
The price for Shams definitely went up.

Speaker 1 Yeah. What were you going to say? Do you think Woj will still break news? I think Woj

Speaker 1 definitely. If he gets something that could piss off Shams, I bet you he would.
I think that it's just that he's not going to be pressed to break everything. But if

Speaker 1 he gets a piece of information,

Speaker 1 what's stopping him from still doing the job? Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1 I mean, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, if he has all the contacts, if someone just sends him something, you would think he's got, yeah, I mean, he has to have relationships where they're like, I'm still only going to send you stuff.

Speaker 1 It was funny, though, ESPN had their panel of

Speaker 1 newsbreakers reacting to Woj's retirement. It was Passon.
It was Schefter. It was Pete Thammel.

Speaker 1 And Schefter said this, he wanted his life back. He didn't want to have to work on holidays.
He didn't want to be away from from more family gatherings.

Speaker 1 He didn't want to have to take a shower with your phone up against the shower door so you can see a text that's coming in or

Speaker 1 take that sentence right there, like he could have just been jerking off.

Speaker 1 Or take your phone with you to the urinal and hold it in one hand while you take care of your business in the other. That's a life that we live.

Speaker 1 Come on, Shefty.

Speaker 6 Woach, thank you for your service, Woach. You showered with your cell phone.

Speaker 1 Oh, man. I wonder if Shefty's going to maybe see it.
Like, this is when...

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 this is like Shawshank. He leaves the prison.
He's like, man, there's life on the outside. Got to get out of here.
Got to meet up.

Speaker 1 Shefty and Woge meeting at a beach, you know, five years from now. And like, finally there.

Speaker 6 I actually think it's more likely that Shefty will start breaking more NBA news.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he might.

Speaker 6 Because he probably had some, but he usually would, you know, defer that to Woge because he didn't want to step on his toes. But Shefty was doing like sidelines at NBA games.

Speaker 6 He was breaking, he was dabbling in it, he was checking it out.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there could be some vacuum there.

Speaker 7 I could see an upstart young buck come out of nowhere, and that's the person Woge is actually just

Speaker 7 ghost feeding all of his

Speaker 1 all of his scoops because I do think Sean's going to go to ESPN, but yeah, he could, Woj could still be.

Speaker 7 Like, if Woach, if Woach, if there is beef, and there probably definitely is,

Speaker 7 like, Woge will just be like, I'm out, and then all of a sudden, someone new is going to come out.

Speaker 1 So, Woj is like Alfred, and he finds a Batman kind of thing.

Speaker 1 He's just setting him up.

Speaker 1 He's living with this guy, and he's just like, this is how you do it.

Speaker 6 It could be one of Shepherd's kids.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think, yeah, his daughter's in the business, so why not? Just start dominating everyone.

Speaker 1 It was just very funny, because we do like Woach, but like, come on, dude. Like,

Speaker 1 not even to Woach. Woj, I'm happy for, but, like, anyone who reacted saying,

Speaker 1 Man, I can't believe this. Like, he wanted to get his life back.
It's like, okay, he also got paid a lot of money to do a job that's, you know, pretty cool.

Speaker 6 It's pretty fun, yeah. But to even act like it's somebody that's been like an athlete for 30 years, stepping away from it.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 His, his athletic feats were, yeah, showering and not slipping and dropping his phone and cracking it, staying up for 17 hours at a time to break news, breaking news about athletes.

Speaker 6 So it's a little bit different. And then the the graphic that everybody was tweeting out that just said like 30 on it yeah

Speaker 1 i guess i'm supposed to know what the 30 means so funny um all right let's let's uh let's get some football talk uh let's kick it to ourselves pft will be back in studio we taped this earlier in the day let's do football and then we got spice atoms and firefest

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Speaker 1 Okay, boys, week three.

Speaker 1 We have a great slate. I'm very excited for this Sunday.
Perfect setup where it's seven early, five late, late, two Monday nights. I wanted to, before we started getting through the games, PFT,

Speaker 1 I wanted to just hit a couple big picture things. Okay.
So

Speaker 1 scoring is down again. Yep.

Speaker 6 Touchdowns are down. Everyone's

Speaker 1 blaming the two high safeties. And I actually read an article.
No big deal. Not trying to brag.
But essentially,

Speaker 1 Deep passes still work, but offenses are taking the bait with the two high safeties and just they're running the ball into light boxes and it's just not, it's not as effective.

Speaker 1 So teams that are still willing to push the ball downfield are doing okay.

Speaker 1 It's just that everyone's like, oh, well, I guess we'll just dink and dunk and we'll run the ball and it's just not working as well.

Speaker 6 I feel like there are ways around that too. I feel like offenses can adapt to it.

Speaker 1 Well, it's offenses that are doing a lot of motion, the Saints, the 49ers, some of these offenses that are trying to confuse the defense are still very effective, but there's a lot of offenses that are like, oh, light box, let me run.

Speaker 1 Oh, the run isn't really working, but we're going to keep doing it because that's what they're giving us. So stop taking the bait.

Speaker 6 Well, check down Mahomes. Check down Patty.

Speaker 6 That's how he lives and dies by the check down.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so through two weeks, we've had 29 QBs throw the ball at least 20 times with under 200 yards passing, which is pretty crazy.

Speaker 1 That's the most for any season since 2008 and the second most for any start to the season since 1990.

Speaker 1 In weeks one and two, only 17 of the 64 quarterbacks have gone over one and a half passing touchdowns in a game.

Speaker 1 Again, these these are not because we have rookie quarterbacks that have not thrown touchdowns, but these are just stats.

Speaker 6 It's a league-wide issue.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there are also 24 QBs with one or fewer passing touchdowns with 20-plus pass attempts in week one, the most since the merger in 1970. There you go.

Speaker 6 It's not our fault.

Speaker 1 And there have only been five 300-yard passing games so far this season, which is kind of crazy through two weeks.

Speaker 6 Listen, take what the defense gives you.

Speaker 1 And the craziest part is, can you guys give us, can you name the top four guys currently? Obviously, it's two weeks, small sample size, top four guys in passing touchdowns.

Speaker 6 Top four guys passing touchdowns.

Speaker 1 Baker is yes. Okay, that's Darnold.
Yes.

Speaker 6 Baker, Darnold,

Speaker 6 Josh?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 1 It's Baker Mayfield. Kyler.
Tua. Kyler, Tyler.
Tyler Murray. Tua, no.
The last is Derek Carr. So think about this.

Speaker 1 Think about if we were sitting here in August and we were like, hey, through two weeks, who's going to be the top of the leaderboard in passing touchdowns?

Speaker 1 And I said, Derek Carr, Baker Mayfield, Sam Darneau, and Kyler Murray.

Speaker 1 You would have said, you don't know ball. Yeah.

Speaker 6 Yeah. Well, Kyler, I think we kind of predicted that Kyler was going to have a good year.
I mean,

Speaker 1 I'm still buzzing off of that first half against the Rams because that was some of the best quarterback play I've ever seen.

Speaker 6 Yeah, Kyler, when he's not thinking, when he's just going, he's so fun to watch. So fun.
Incredible. He had that one touchdown pass where he started.
He did the Steph Curry.

Speaker 6 He threw it, started celebrating before it was caught.

Speaker 6 And we might have a new title holder for the dumb rules. So it was Mike Greenberg's dumb rules whenever he would try to fix baseball every year.
Mel Kuyper had dumb rules today.

Speaker 6 Mel Kuiper's dumb rule is to ban the too high safety formation on defense. Defense can't have anything.

Speaker 1 Stick to the draft, buddy.

Speaker 6 Yeah, Mel Kuyper is not there to give takes. Mel Kuyper is there to tell me who is going to be the best quarterback drafted in 2027.

Speaker 1 It's also exactly what I said this article that I read. Again, not a brag, but it's not the too high safety.
It's that teams are taking the bait for it. Yeah.
Like, still push the ball downfield.

Speaker 1 You can still be successful. You're just taking the bait and doing exactly.
You're playing into their hands. Stop doing that.

Speaker 6 I also like taking what the defense gives you, though.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 But it's too much of that. It's too much of it.

Speaker 1 It's too much of it. All right, so great slate.
We'll do our picks at the end.

Speaker 6 I hate the two Monday night games. I hate it on Monday night when it's going on, when it's concurrent.
I love it.

Speaker 1 You do? Yeah.

Speaker 6 I don't like it.

Speaker 1 I'm not a one TV guy, so I love it.

Speaker 6 I like having the one game that everybody's watching. It's kind of nice.

Speaker 1 You're kind of coming across as a one-tv guy.

Speaker 6 I have two TVs.

Speaker 1 Okay, all right. Well, then, that.

Speaker 6 Where's the wince, Hank? You're making your faces already complaining.

Speaker 1 Because Hank and I are in lockstep here. We've heard a couple people complain.
Jerry was complaining.

Speaker 1 Someone else was complaining. I was like, dude, no offense, but you're coming across as a one-tv guy, and that's a little embarrassing.
Well, you're talking, that's Jerry.

Speaker 6 I've got two TVs. I can watch two games at the same time.
I do watch two games at the same time. I'm a little offended by Hank's stupid fucking face.

Speaker 1 been in your house. No, you got.
Oh, is there only one?

Speaker 6 You've seen the second TV in the basement.

Speaker 7 I guess that was, it's been a while.

Speaker 6 I have it set up. It's not on the wall, but I've got two TVs.
One's on its own table, so I can go man mode and watch two TVs at the same time. Hank.

Speaker 1 Also, with YouTube TV, you only need one now.

Speaker 1 Because you can just play the mix.

Speaker 6 That's true. Hank, I've been to your house.
You only have one TV.

Speaker 7 I have a one-tv guy. Oh, you are?

Speaker 1 Yeah, so

Speaker 6 this is projected. Dude,

Speaker 7 I don't like it either.

Speaker 1 Well, he's also not a a football fan.

Speaker 6 But did you see Hank when you were saying the only one TV thing? He was like, ew, gross. That's you.
You're a closeted one TV guy.

Speaker 1 But also not a football fan. Yeah.
So it doesn't matter.

Speaker 7 I was three TV's control center for five years, and I just grew out of it.

Speaker 6 You grew out of the multi-TV fans.

Speaker 7 This is the only night of the year where I'm like, damn, I wish I had two TVs.

Speaker 1 You want to come over?

Speaker 6 Yeah, maybe.

Speaker 6 I don't like the two games at the same time. I like having the tradition,

Speaker 6 the routine on Monday nights of having one game that I pay attention to. No, I love it.

Speaker 1 It's a treat.

Speaker 6 But the only reason why I do like it, I don't like it on Monday nights, but I like just having one less game on Sunday going on at the same time. Uh-huh.

Speaker 1 I like it. I wouldn't like it every single week.
I like that they do it once or twice a year. It's a nice little treat.

Speaker 7 They should also switch the games kind of like, I wish it was.

Speaker 7 Bills Bengals.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, Bill's Bengals, Commander's Jags would be perfect setup. And just start Commander's Commander's Jags at like 10 o'clock.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 6 And whenever the Jags are playing in primetime, it should be against the Tennessee Titans, and it should be on a Thursday night. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I like it just because you are guaranteed some type of drama on Monday night where it's like there's nothing worse than a Monday night football where you just get a blowout.

Speaker 1 When you have two games, chances are you're going to get at least something good. Yeah, we are.

Speaker 6 The Commanders are on blowout alert. Yeah.
For sure.

Speaker 1 So are the Jags. All right, so let's get some games.
Let's talk some games.

Speaker 1 These are early games.

Speaker 1 Houston Texans going to the Minnesota Vikings. 2-0 versus 2-0.

Speaker 1 Did you see that Aaron Jones is trying to basically bring the Lambo Leap to Minnesota now? I don't like that. Calling it the Bank Vault.

Speaker 1 Okay, that's a good name. It's a good name.
I don't like that.

Speaker 6 Now I'm kind of in on it just because it's got a sick name.

Speaker 1 I had the same exact thought where I was like, you can't just do that, but the bank vault is sick.

Speaker 6 The bank vault's really nice. The only problem is there's a lot of teams that play in bank name stadiums.
True. So they could kind of co-opt that.
But he was the first to it.

Speaker 1 It makes me want to bet him to score a touchdown just so we can see the bank fall.

Speaker 6 It does.

Speaker 6 I kind of like how Aaron Jones has also fallen into just the visual look-alike of the Minnesota Vikings running back situation for the last four years. Yes.

Speaker 6 It looks like the same guy. This year it's Aaron Jones, and he's playing pretty well.
Sam Darnold is maybe, well, definitely comeback player of the year at this point, right?

Speaker 1 At this point, through two weeks. Yeah.

Speaker 6 If Ricky Pearsall gets on the field, it's probably going to be him. But through two weeks, it's Sam.
And these two teams also have the league leaders in sacks. Ooh.
How about that?

Speaker 6 The two-team leaders in sacks.

Speaker 1 It also is the Daniel Hunter revenge game.

Speaker 6 The Neil Hunter revenge game and also Jonathan Greener revenge game because he left the Texans for the Vikings.

Speaker 1 By the way, speaking of Minnesota running backs, do you guys know where Dalvin Cook is now? Dalvin Cook. Cowboys.
Yeah, he's on the Cowboys.

Speaker 1 Didn't realize that. They're working him in.
They have a running back.

Speaker 1 Mike McCarthy is essentially

Speaker 1 deciding deciding his strategy for running backs this year is everyone who doesn't do any fantasy research and they show up to their draft. They're like, I know that name.

Speaker 1 I think I drafted Tony Gonzalez like seven years later than he should have been drafted because I saw the name. I was like, well, he's got to still be good.

Speaker 6 Well, the Cowboys got two of them.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah, no, that's what I'm saying.
Yeah, that's what his whole running back committee is.

Speaker 6 Which I kind of like. I respect that.

Speaker 1 He's just doing old running backs that you kind of recognize. And he's like, yeah, that makes sense.

Speaker 6 Yeah. So

Speaker 1 if he, like,

Speaker 1 I think Chris Johnson could still give him some yards.

Speaker 6 He's fast, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, and I wouldn't be shocked if they brought him in.

Speaker 6 Adrian Peterson. Yeah.
Absolutely. Put him on the field.

Speaker 1 Like, if you combine just a bunch of old guys that used to be dominant, I, in my dumb brain, will say one of them will end up popping.

Speaker 6 Running back by committee, except like one of them has a healthy right leg, one of them has a healthy left leg.

Speaker 1 Yes, yes. So I'm excited for this game because I think it's going to be a pretty big test of like which one.
I think the Texans are for real.

Speaker 1 I actually think the Vikings might be for real too, but this is this feels like a game where the winner of this we're going to be saying whoa 3-0 looking really good

Speaker 1 uh kind of control of their division too because you know three and oh we'll see what happens with the lions and the packers and the bears but at least the texans if they're three and oh that's going to be a very big lead everyone else in their division is 0-2 i i am very interested to see how cj stroud does against brian flores defense because did you see after the game brock purdy was like you guys were just confusing the fuck out of me Yeah, that's what Brian Flores does.

Speaker 6 He does. And he doesn't even always have to blitz to do it.

Speaker 6 Sometimes he just fakes a blitz, and he does that thing where the quarterback thinks that they're going to be under pressure, then they're not, and then they just panic, and the four rushers can get home.

Speaker 6 So C.J. Stroud, last year we started to do this.

Speaker 6 We shouldn't be doing it yet, but we should start thinking about it, asking the classic Nick Wright question of, is he throwing enough interceptions?

Speaker 6 So no interceptions. He doesn't throw a lot of interceptions.
For C.J. Stroud,

Speaker 6 he did not throw many interceptions last year.

Speaker 1 He tried to throw a couple against the Bears.

Speaker 6 Well, yeah, I think he leads the league in turnover worthy throws. He's just getting a lot of luck.
I love that. He's getting some interception luck on that end.

Speaker 6 But we'll say this. If he goes like two more games, no interceptions, then we start to say C.J.
Stroud doesn't throw enough interceptions.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Do we have any takes on CJ Stroud in the Caleb Williams clip?

Speaker 6 Big broing. Yeah, Big Broedom.
It's a little early for the Big Bro.

Speaker 1 Well, here's the thing. I have no problem with CJ Stroud doing it.
I also have no problem with Caleb Williams being like, I just got sacked 100 times, got my ass kicked.

Speaker 1 I don't really want to stand here and just be told, hey, everything's going to be okay. Like, let me,

Speaker 1 if you're a competitor, I just don't want to do that nicey-nice, oh, thank you so much. They're also the same age.
So I could see how I'm fine with Caleb Williams' reaction.

Speaker 1 I know Hank thought that it was bad.

Speaker 1 You said, you mentioned something to me. You're like, did you see that? Did you see that? But you know what happened with Hank?

Speaker 6 This is what Hank does. It's like sometimes we're too lazy to read the article, so we just read the headline.

Speaker 6 Hank sometimes is too lazy to watch the video, so he just reads the headline of the video, and then that's what he takes from it. It was Hank got aggregated, you got aggregated.
So, what happened?

Speaker 1 I watched the video.

Speaker 6 Well, okay, so what happened in the clip was CJ was like trying to give him words of encouragement, he rolled his eyes, and then Caleb was like, Okay, okay, he acted in a perfectly normal way for somebody that just lost a game.

Speaker 1 Also, she did show it was mic'd up. You don't think he was doing that a little bit to get a little extra juice on the mic'd up? Like, well, look at me, I'm mic'd up.

Speaker 1 I, it, it was a also a perfect uh encapsulation of the internet where

Speaker 1 whoever shared it, however you first consumed it, the caption just changed what you thought. Exactly.

Speaker 6 Yeah, you read the headline and didn't watch the video. Yeah.

Speaker 7 I watched the video.

Speaker 1 Okay, so you thought it was too much. Do you have any problem with CJ Stroud, who is a very, very good quarterback,

Speaker 1 two games into his second season, big bro and people?

Speaker 7 It was a little early for Big Bro, but I just thought Caleb Williams' body language was bad. Like he was a little bit

Speaker 1 too cool for school. I like a little bit too cool for school.
He was pissed off. No one's,

Speaker 1 show me a good loser, and I'll show you a loser.

Speaker 7 Yeah, no, that's true. He's just got to, he's, right now, he's too cool for school.
He kind of said that in the offseason, like, oh, yeah, we're going to, you know, he's, he's cocky.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. The punch thing that's going to be.

Speaker 7 He's got to back it up. At some point, he's got to back it up.
It's cool if, like, if he can back it up, all good.

Speaker 7 If he doesn't,

Speaker 7 then it's going to be like, oh, maybe you should have been a little more, you know, receptive and open to your peers.

Speaker 1 I think of the comments, you think that was... You think that if he had been more receptive of C.J.
Stroud saying, hey, don't worry, worry, it's going to be okay, he would be okay?

Speaker 1 Maybe, yeah.

Speaker 1 He didn't say anything.

Speaker 6 How would you have liked him to respond?

Speaker 1 CJ Stroud didn't say anything. He wasn't like, hey, man.
He rolled his eyes. Yeah, but C.J.
Stroud came up and was like, hey, man, I saw that one play.

Speaker 1 This is actually how you're going to want to read the safety goals.

Speaker 1 And then it's like, yeah, okay, you should probably listen. But he literally just said, it's okay, man.
Keep your head up.

Speaker 1 He was doing it for the cameras, C.J. Stroud was.

Speaker 7 And Caleb was a little bit dismissive.

Speaker 7 It's not a huge deal. I just think when it's all said and done, if things don't turn around, then it's not going to look great.

Speaker 1 That will be the point.

Speaker 7 What are you going to say, Max?

Speaker 1 You brought up the punt thing. Have we talked about the punt thing? Yeah, everyone talks about the punt thing.
Have we talked about the punt thing?

Speaker 1 He said to Tori Taylor, you're not going to have to punt much. Guess what? Did you not hear about the offense being down

Speaker 1 league-wide? Punts her up. Punts her up.
Punts her up. Punts her up.
Punts her up. It's a big year.

Speaker 1 Caleb Williams had no idea that punts were going to be in vogue this year. You can't predict that stuff.
It's like inflation. You You can't predict that.

Speaker 1 And also, Torrey Taylor's a really good punter. Maybe it's just Caleb Williams being a good teammate.

Speaker 6 Guess what? Credit to Ryan Poles for getting ahead of the league-wide trend. How punts are going to be up and using a draft pick on a punter?

Speaker 1 Actually, yeah. If Ryan Poles had taken Tori Taylor 1-1, I would have been fine with it, with how people are using their punters these years.

Speaker 6 And the way the league's going these days, you want to be ahead of that new trend and the new wrinkle. Yeah.
It's going to be just punting more.

Speaker 1 When everyone zigs, we zag. Okay,

Speaker 1 next game. Chargers and Steelers.
This one's going to be gross. Gross, gross, gross.
I think it's Steelers minus one and a half over-unders, 35.5.

Speaker 1 So we had a new Tomlin. We had a new Tomlin drop.
Mike Tomlin was talking about the petty game ball. And a new Harbaugh.
And a new Harbaugh.

Speaker 1 We had a petty game ball that he gave to Russell Wilson after the Steelers beat the Broncos, which a petty game ball.

Speaker 1 Russell Wilson didn't play in the game, but it was a petty game ball.

Speaker 1 A reporter asked him to go deeper, and he said, I can't give you all the ingredients to the hot dog. You might not like it.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 He might have stolen that from Justin Fields, who's a vegan, trying to sway him into not eating meat anymore. He's like, you know what goes in a hot dog, coach.
Yeah. His lips and asshole.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 So he's,

Speaker 1 yeah,

Speaker 1 I like the petty game ball. And then the new Harbaugh

Speaker 1 was very funny. He said, like Moses, I'm going to die leaning on my staff.

Speaker 6 Yeah, that's a really good one. So I looked into that.

Speaker 1 That sounds like something that is bad. That sounds like something you would say.

Speaker 1 I looked into that quote, and it's not the first time Harbaugh said this.

Speaker 6 He said it back in January. He said, like Moses, I'm going to die leaning on my staff, implying that he would die leaning on his coordinators and the other coaches.

Speaker 6 And, you know, everybody that happens to be working with Jim Harbaugh on the market.

Speaker 1 In Michigan, he said this?

Speaker 6 At Michigan, yeah. So he was implying, like, I will die leaning on Connor Stallions.

Speaker 1 Well, he never met Connor Stallions.

Speaker 6 Never met Connor Stallions. Not his staff.

Speaker 6 Moses, he's implying, died leaning on his staff, his physical staff, right? I looked into that quote.

Speaker 6 He actually stole that quote from Lou Holtz.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 6 But when Lou Holtz said it, he said that he's going to be like Peter dying leaning on his staff.

Speaker 6 That's also a wrong quote because Peter was crucified. The actual guy that leaned on his staff was Jacob.
Ah.

Speaker 6 So it's like we're playing a game of football guy telephone right now, and Harbaugh has just rolled into the whole Moses thing. Moses does hit harder.

Speaker 1 What about Seth?

Speaker 7 How'd Moses die?

Speaker 6 Moses died wandering the desert. Yeah.
He never made it.

Speaker 1 What about Seth?

Speaker 6 Seth, the brother of Cain and Abel.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the third brother.

Speaker 6 No one talks about Seth. Yeah, his name's Seth.
And he was.

Speaker 7 That does not sound like a biblical name at all.

Speaker 6 It doesn't. It sounds made up.
People talk.

Speaker 1 All they do is talk about Caden Abel. Fucking put some respect on Seth's name.
Yeah,

Speaker 6 Seth was the Cooper Manning of that family.

Speaker 6 But yeah, so that was a great quote from Harbaugh. I don't really understand what it means, but I like it.
I also think that Harbaugh may have saved one of his players' lives this week. Oh.

Speaker 6 Because they stayed out east, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 6 So they stayed in Charlotte, and they're going up to Pittsburgh for the time zones. Jim Harbaugh is a big believer in sleep preparation.

Speaker 1 He just wanted to watch his team sleep. Probably, yes.
He wanted to make sure that they were all in the same place.

Speaker 6 He wants to keep them in hotels so that Herbert has a chance of getting stuck in an elevator. Yeah.
But Joey Boss' house got broken into on Monday.

Speaker 6 Well, there was an alarm that went off. The cops showed up.
The cops went into the house with their weapons drawn because they had an alarm.

Speaker 6 Turns out it may have been a false alarm. It was like the wind that set it off.
But if Joey Bosa had been home, the cops breaking in with their guns, Joey Bose is probably.

Speaker 6 I'm going to go out on a limb and say he's probably a gun owner. It could have gotten messy if he hears people breaking into his guns.

Speaker 1 That's true.

Speaker 6 So Harbaugh might have saved Joey Bose's life. I think this team is circling the wagons.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 They also,

Speaker 1 they were doing like some type of community

Speaker 1 service. They were, I think they were boxing lunches for

Speaker 1 homeless people or something. He was doing like a food pantry, right?

Speaker 1 And they...

Speaker 1 The food pantry owner said that they actually broke the record for most lunches boxed in an hour. And Harbaugh was like, fuck yes.

Speaker 1 He definitely asked them beforehand, what's the record?

Speaker 6 And then he told them, we got to beat this record.

Speaker 1 I got a question for you guys. This is high-level handicapping of football.

Speaker 1 There's a report out there from Joey Bosa. He says that Jim Harbaugh has told Justin Herbert, no more high fives when coming off the field to protect his hands.

Speaker 1 Is that a good thing or a bad thing in terms of team vibes?

Speaker 6 So was that Bosa's idea or was that Harbaugh's idea?

Speaker 1 It's Harbaugh's idea, but he told Bosa, no more, like, Herbert, no more high fives. Walking off the field,

Speaker 1 no more high fives. I feel like that's going to hurt the team.

Speaker 6 I don't know.

Speaker 1 It helps his hand, but you got to give a guy a high five every now and then. Can we go left-hand?

Speaker 6 Maybe fist bump? Fist bump? Trent Dilfer fist bumps his players all the time.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 I saw that and I was like, okay, we're really going. It's just Harbaugh's going crazy.

Speaker 6 I think Harbaugh's going to have like seven or eight different things that he's going to come up with. Like small, little details that he's going to change the the rules on this year.

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 6 If you're hardball, like human body craves contact, let your quarterback high-five somebody. Yeah.

Speaker 1 What if they just start kissing their boys? Oh. A little smooch coming up.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. A little smooch.

Speaker 6 I like that a lot.

Speaker 1 The first European football team.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think this game is going to be gross, though, because I think the Steelers' defense is legit, legit.

Speaker 1 And this is a game where the Chargers, you know, they've run the ball very well, but it's a Greg Roman offense. Obviously, Tomlin knows it because he was with the Ravens.

Speaker 1 I don't know if they'll be able to pass it on the Steelers. And then the Steelers, Justin Fields,

Speaker 1 he's done enough to not make a mistake, but it hasn't been an explosive offense. They don't have a ton of weapons.
So I think we're going to get one of those maybe

Speaker 1 12-10 type of games.

Speaker 3 That would be classic.

Speaker 6 Yeah. And I bet both coaches would love that.
Yeah. Tomlin also said, he was talking about the Russ versus Just thing that he's got going on.

Speaker 6 He says, we're ready in a plan that features Justin and his readiness, which is a great Tom Linism out there. Like, the readiness factor for Justin is higher than it is for Russ right now.

Speaker 6 And then I saw a couple articles, quarterbacks get injured. You start to talk about which teams have a luxury at the quarterback situation.

Speaker 6 I saw a couple saying, like, what if the Dolphins traded for Russ Wilson?

Speaker 6 That would be a great move probably by

Speaker 6 the Steelers. I was going to say, not for the Dolphins.
Yeah,

Speaker 6 you sign Russ Wilson for basically nothing.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but if you and the Dolphins trade him, you just don't have a quarterback. You don't have a quarterback anymore.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 Bears and Colts.

Speaker 1 I think this is the week, boys. I think this is the week.

Speaker 6 I think the Bears are going to run.

Speaker 1 Your face, this is where the podcast listeners are going to be like, they just pick on Hank. He just went like this.

Speaker 1 Like that.

Speaker 1 Do that one more time? Do it one more time. No, no, no.
You do it one more time.

Speaker 1 That's what he did. That's the face he made when I just said that.

Speaker 1 That's probably the same face a lot of people listening to the podcast made. The Colts' defense is very bad.
They give up the most rushing yards. They have DeVoris Buckner's now out.
You call him

Speaker 1 Devorce Buckner's out.

Speaker 6 He's never won a ring.

Speaker 1 The secondary is banged up a little bit. I think this is the week that the offense looks good.
I think the Bears are going to win.

Speaker 1 Obviously, this is a very important game for me in terms of discourse because if Anthony Richardson outplays Caleb Williams, I'm going to be in trouble.

Speaker 1 Anthony Richardson does have, I think he has 49% completion percentage. I know there's been some drops, but he does have the best offensive line in the NFL.
So he's got a ton of time.

Speaker 6 His offensive line is playing really, really well right now. So that makes all his, like, you know, the interceptions and the low completion percentage makes it stand out a little bit more.

Speaker 6 He played so bad against the Packers last week. He was very, very bad.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 I do agree with you. I think the Bears are going to run the ball down their throats because the indie run defense is terrible.

Speaker 1 And the Titans Titans and the Texans, I believe, will go by the end of the season, will both be top 10 defenses. The Colts will not.

Speaker 1 So I think this is one of those situations where your first two weeks, you're playing really, really good defenses. Now you take a big step down and things just work easier.

Speaker 1 I think the offensive line will block better. Darnell Wright has been really, really good.
He was really, really bad against the Texans. I don't think that's going to happen again.

Speaker 1 I just think everything's going to look a lot better.

Speaker 6 The defense for the Bears has been awesome in the second half, too. I think they've only allowed three points in the second half this year.

Speaker 1 And that was just Kaimi Fairbann,

Speaker 1 Fairbarn, like 75-yard field goal.

Speaker 6 Play too high. Play too high safeties because Anthony Richardson, the reason I like watching him play is because he's electric when he runs with the ball, and he takes mega shots downfield.

Speaker 6 He's mega man at quarterback. He only goes downfield, which explains why his completion percentage is lower, but he's not taking what the defense gives him.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 I also just want to say, this game, the Bears win this game. Everything is on path.
Everything looks good because

Speaker 1 there's been a lot of panicking. I actually don't think Bears fans are panicking.
I think it's more just the Hanks of the world, the Colin Cowards just trying to force panic on us.

Speaker 1 Very similar.

Speaker 7 I don't want them to force panic on you at all.

Speaker 1 The Bears are one and one. The Bears are one and one.
Before the season, I had the Texans as a loss.

Speaker 1 When we did the schedule, I was like, we're going to lose to the Texans.

Speaker 6 Yeah, Hank, you do force them.

Speaker 1 You force panic. Oh.
You with questions.

Speaker 6 You play pressure.

Speaker 7 I do have one question. Okay, here we go.
Roman Dunze's dad.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I saw it.

Speaker 7 He shared a clip on Twitter.

Speaker 1 It's fine.

Speaker 1 He's just watching Tape.

Speaker 7 Wide open and shit.

Speaker 1 Don't you want

Speaker 1 family members watching Tate? Yeah, it worked out well for Odell. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I want my, I want, it takes a family. Did you watch Tape not publicly post create discourse against

Speaker 1 your son? Hank, watching Tape.

Speaker 1 Are you going to tell the full story? I'm going to ask a question.

Speaker 6 I'm going to ask a question to Hank.

Speaker 1 Wait, hold on. But he also posted a clip that

Speaker 1 basically said: Roman Dunze runs a great route, but Caleb Williams gets pressured so fast he has no chance.

Speaker 6 Okay. So

Speaker 6 did you read the headline of Romadunze dad's film? I didn't see.

Speaker 7 I watched the clip he posted. I didn't see the other clip he posted.

Speaker 6 Okay. Did he post a clip of Roman Dunze dropping a touchdown catch?

Speaker 7 I don't think so.

Speaker 1 Okay, so sounds like so maybe Caleb Williams should post that. What about the reports of DJ Moore liking Justin Fields better? DJ Moore did like Justin Fields better.

Speaker 1 DJ Moore apologized for his body language on Sunday night, which I thought was bad. Like, DJ Moore.

Speaker 7 He just stopped running routes.

Speaker 1 DJ Moore is... He also said that thing to Tyson Badgent that no one really knows what he said, but some people are saying have

Speaker 1 it. Oh, we're now lip reading experts.
We're lip-reading experts. We need you out here to Tyson Badgent.
No, DJ Moore,

Speaker 1 I think TJ Moore.

Speaker 1 That's crazy. You don't try to put panic.
That's crazy. DJ Moore has to.
He just got paid. He's a number one.

Speaker 1 He's on a team with a rookie quarterback, a rookie wide receiver, an offensive line that's been struggling. DJ Moore has to step up and be a leader.

Speaker 1 And I think that that was a moment where he realizes his body language and the way he reacted was probably not great. He admitted that in press

Speaker 1 media this week. DJ Moore is going to be a lot better, and this is going to be different.

Speaker 6 I'm watching the clip right now.

Speaker 1 There's no panicking.

Speaker 6 DJ Moore walking down the sideline, it looks like he might say, dog, I I need you to Tyson Baja. No,

Speaker 1 he was saying, Dog, that was a sick throw, and Caleb Williams is going to go off against the Colts.

Speaker 6 He might have also said that. Yeah.
I'm not sure.

Speaker 6 Here's what it comes down to when it comes to lip reading videos: whatever you say in the caption is what he said, I will believe that. I'm highly suggestible to believing what people say in that.

Speaker 1 I'm not panicking. I just realized, though, I am literally, I've been going like this this entire segment.
So I'm not panicking.

Speaker 6 I wouldn't panic. I'm not.

Speaker 1 I think Caleb will be fine.

Speaker 1 Who was talking about panicking? I mean,

Speaker 1 come on, guys. The funniest percentage for the spot

Speaker 6 would be if the Bears beat the Colts but they ran for like four touchdowns and Caleb didn't throw a touchdown. I wouldn't give a fuck.
I want to win games.

Speaker 6 Actually, I want the Bears to go on a huge winning streak, and for some reason, Caleb just to not throw touchdowns. He can have as many yards as he wants.
Yeah. Just to watch that discourse build up.

Speaker 6 Fine.

Speaker 1 Love it. Max, another question again.

Speaker 1 You guys know how to. You're funny.

Speaker 1 You guys are really funny. The panic group stuff.

Speaker 1 You say that you just want the Bears to win.

Speaker 1 What if

Speaker 1 Caleb Williams throws for 375, four touchdowns, but they lose off of special teams turnovers, like something fluky like that,

Speaker 1 but Caleb Williams goes 375, four touchdowns.

Speaker 1 Or.

Speaker 1 We did this last week. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'd consider taking that this week.

Speaker 1 You would definitely take that.

Speaker 1 I said I'd consider taking that this week.

Speaker 6 What if he throws for 300 yards, four touchdowns? The Bears lose. Torrey Taylor gets injured.

Speaker 7 But Anthony Richardson throws for 400 yards and five touchdowns.

Speaker 1 I do not want that.

Speaker 1 It's just football, guys. Come on.
There's more things to life. All right.

Speaker 7 No one wants the Bears to be better than me.

Speaker 1 No, you're a liar. You're a liar, and you lie.

Speaker 6 Oh, we have a people forget that for this week, too. The combined age for Caleb Williams, 44, five years younger than the starting quarterbacks in Utah, Oklahoma State.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Fun factories. Caleb mentioned that on Wednesday.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 It's a People Forget that. I've seen it everywhere.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Giants and Browns.

Speaker 1 Gross.

Speaker 6 Is Conklin going to play?

Speaker 6 If he plays, then I think I like the Browns.

Speaker 6 I kind of want to bet on the Giants this week.

Speaker 6 I don't hate it. I know it's gross, but there's.
There's two gross bets out there.

Speaker 1 There's more than two. There's more than two.
I mean, the Panthers will get to. That one's for sure.

Speaker 6 I do think that if the Giants lose this game, the Brian Dayball hot seat, it's officially hot.

Speaker 1 So I want to take the Giants in this game. I am worried about Daniel Jones

Speaker 1 against the Blitz. You saw it week one against

Speaker 1 Brian Floors' defense. Jim Schwartz is going to do something similar.

Speaker 1 Like Daniel Jones played okay against the Commanders because their defense can't do the things that the Browns' defense and the Vikings' defense can do.

Speaker 6 Like, play defense.

Speaker 1 Play defense.

Speaker 1 I saw a very funny stat.

Speaker 1 I believe. Wait, was it? Oh, I think Daniel Jones was the only NFC East quarterback.
Oh, no. Never mind.
I don't have the stat.

Speaker 1 They were the only team to... Oh, no, I have the stat.
The Commanders were the only team in week two, NFC East team in week two to not score a touchdown. They were also the only NFC East team to win.

Speaker 6 Interesting. That's pretty cool.
The Giants,

Speaker 6 I said the stat in the inverse way on Monday's show, but the Giants were the first team in NFL history to lose a game where they scored three touchdowns and their opponent didn't score a single touchdown.

Speaker 6 It's never happened before.

Speaker 6 Did you know that Amari Cooper's 30 years old? That seems right. Oh, I thought he was older.

Speaker 1 No, that seems about. He's just been around for a while.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 That seems about. I feel like we've seen him for a long time.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I think I like the Giants this week. I know it's stupid.
I know there's really no reason to love the Giants, but I do.

Speaker 1 There's a couple, yeah, the Giants are definitely in the catch-a-falling knife team category where it's like that. You're going to do it eventually.
Yeah. Just hope you time it well.

Speaker 6 You think Dable

Speaker 6 brought in a clip of the Saquon Barkley drop and showed it to Mr. Mara?

Speaker 1 I was like, look. He might have.

Speaker 1 He's a loser. He's

Speaker 1 a losing player.

Speaker 6 He's a losing running back.

Speaker 1 Shout out to the Giants. That actually was

Speaker 1 probably their

Speaker 1 first win of the season. Yes, I was seeing that.
Saquon dropping that. Giants fans were celebrating heavily.

Speaker 6 Mr. Merrick got his first night of sleep this season.

Speaker 1 Yes, yes.

Speaker 1 Okay. Yeah, this is a gross game.
I don't know what to do with it. I think that this is one of those games, too.

Speaker 1 You have them every Sunday where you can point to it and be like, whatever I choose, I'm going to be wrong. Yeah, yeah.
So

Speaker 1 Eagles and Saints.

Speaker 6 Max.

Speaker 1 Max, are we overreacting to the Saints or overreacting to the Eagles?

Speaker 1 Neither. Okay.

Speaker 6 So we're correct about both.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we're going to go to the bottom.

Speaker 1 The line would say we're overreacting to the Saints and overreacting to the Eagles.

Speaker 1 Neither. Okay, okay.

Speaker 1 I'm worried for you, Max, without A.J. Brown.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 He's the guy that you need to beat the Saints defense, and he's not there.

Speaker 1 Also, Max, would you like to comment on the fact that Reed Blankenship said after the game, we're a player-led team at the end of the day. We know

Speaker 1 what we did is on us. So they don't need coaches in Philadelphia is pretty much what he said.

Speaker 1 You're talking about how Jalen Hurts did all of the things.

Speaker 6 No, no, Reed Blankenship said we're a player-led team.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Where's Memes?

Speaker 1 He's coming.

Speaker 1 I don't know. We don't know where Memes is?

Speaker 1 He said he's coming. Wait, I didn't even realize Memes wasn't back there.

Speaker 1 Hey, Pug.

Speaker 1 All right, Pug's here. He's the Eagles fan.

Speaker 1 Pug, what do you think about the comment that Reed Blanketship made about Jalen Hurts saying he talked to the team after and said, we're a player-led team at the end of the day, so they don't even need coaches?

Speaker 1 Yeah, they are a player-led team. It's true.

Speaker 1 So do they not need coaches?

Speaker 6 Just coordinators.

Speaker 1 Just coordinators?

Speaker 3 Head coordinators, no head coach. Pug.

Speaker 1 Okay. So just get rid of somebody.
I'm going to take over from Pug.

Speaker 1 I didn't didn't love what he just said there.

Speaker 1 We do need coaches.

Speaker 1 Coaches are good. Coaches are, you know,

Speaker 1 they're not talented right now.

Speaker 1 You need them.

Speaker 6 Wait, the coaches lack talent.

Speaker 7 They're not talented right now. Talent's not something you can just like.

Speaker 1 It doesn't go up and down.

Speaker 6 No, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 7 It's not a hot and cold thing.

Speaker 1 I've already either

Speaker 1 my report card on the Eagles.

Speaker 6 But, Max, are you saying that the coaches lack talent?

Speaker 7 Right now. Just right now.

Speaker 6 Yeah. They're not talented at being coaches.

Speaker 1 Just currently.

Speaker 1 Okay. Just currently.

Speaker 6 But things can change. So it's a coaching issue for the coaches.
Correct. They need to get more talent out of themselves.

Speaker 1 Correct. But I also like your leaders stepping up and being leaders.
Right.

Speaker 1 So, like Jalen Hurts, the report was after the game, Jalen Hurts took over the locker room and he was the one that spoke and Nick Siriani didn't say anything.

Speaker 1 And then when asked about it later, he goes, Jalen Hurts had everything that I needed.

Speaker 1 That would have been funny if Jalen Hurts was talking, and because Nick Siriani is so Italian, he was just doing sign language in Italian. I'll also say this

Speaker 1 I also think the players may respect Jalen Hurts more than Nick Siriani.

Speaker 6 Oh you think

Speaker 1 so I don't hate Jalen Hurts taking over that role of motivating the players so you don't have a coach. No, he's not very good.
No you don't have a coach

Speaker 1 we have we have Jalen Hurts great leader okay and coach

Speaker 7 so who makes up the game plan yeah

Speaker 1 Who sets the schedule? That could be the coach. Wait, sets a schedule.
That's the NFL? No, like the practice.

Speaker 7 Like, all right, this is what we're going to do.

Speaker 1 No, the actual schedule of, like, all right, this is when we're going to leave.

Speaker 7 Practice tomorrow at 8 o'clock.

Speaker 1 But, like, I'm saying, you know, motivation. You know, that's.

Speaker 6 That's all on Jalen. So,

Speaker 6 what would it be that you would say Nick Siriani does?

Speaker 1 I told you, they're not overreacting about the Eagles. Right.
No, I'm not.

Speaker 1 Directly. No, this is not an overreaction.

Speaker 1 Just like I'm not panicking, you're not overreacting. No, no, no.

Speaker 1 I'm saying that they're right about their overreaction to the Eagles.

Speaker 6 So, like, it's not an overreaction.

Speaker 1 Oh, they're just, it's fair. It's fair reaction.
Right.

Speaker 6 So it sounds like they've been having players-only meetings this entire time.

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 I think that it started after.

Speaker 7 Kind of just like a cuck chair situation. They're having players-only meetings, but Nick Siriani is sitting there.

Speaker 6 He's watching.

Speaker 1 Nick Siriani definitely thinks he's on a text chain with all of his offense, and they're on a side text chain. Yeah.
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 Listen, so you you don't have to do that.

Speaker 1 I'm not over here telling you, trying to convince you that it's good. It's bad.
Also,

Speaker 1 I got into the got into the film room a little bit. I did too.
I watched the all-22 of Caleb. Not that bad.

Speaker 1 I didn't watch the All-22. I watched one thread of a guy who watched the All 22.
Okay, nice. The D-line is so much worse than you could possibly imagine.

Speaker 6 Yeah, it's really bad. They're averaging, I think they have the worst run defense in the NFL.
I have a pick.

Speaker 1 I have a solution for you. I have a guy.
I have something.

Speaker 1 Okay. What? You go.
I have a guy that you guys can get. He was first in pressure rate in 2022 and third in pressure rate in 2023, and you can have him.
Do you want him? Aaron Donald?

Speaker 1 No, his name's Bryce Huff.

Speaker 9 Oh, no, he sucks.

Speaker 1 He was first in pressure rate two years ago, third

Speaker 1 last year, and so far through two weeks, he's tied for 146th. Yeah.
So this is what happened.

Speaker 6 You know what his stats are this year? He has one stat. Can you guess what it is?

Speaker 1 A combined tackle.

Speaker 6 He has one assisted tackle.

Speaker 1 Yes, he has a 67% missed tackle rate. Oh.
That's not good. He.

Speaker 1 Well, no, hold on. 33% of the time he's tackling someone.
Yeah. Half-tackling.
He has zero hurries.

Speaker 6 33% of the time he's getting 50% of a tackle.

Speaker 1 Also, this is the worst part of it all.

Speaker 1 Oh, there's more?

Speaker 1 This is what I found through the tape.

Speaker 1 The Falcons' game plan was to stop Jalen Carter no matter what. So they were doubling the tackle and the guard on Jalen Carter every play and going one-on-one with a tight end in Bryce Hoff.

Speaker 6 That's not good.

Speaker 6 And he wasn't getting any pressure.

Speaker 1 Zero pressure, one-on-one tight end. Wow.
Wow.

Speaker 1 I only saw a couple plays because, like I said, it was a thread.

Speaker 1 But that's what that thread told us.

Speaker 6 What about another player, Max, that might be available? He hasn't played this year. Aaron Donald? No, he hasn't played this year, but he knows the system.

Speaker 1 Even though, like.

Speaker 6 He knows the town, he knows the fans. Fletcher Cox.
He doesn't mind getting booed. No,

Speaker 6 it's not Fletcher Cox.

Speaker 1 Chris Long?

Speaker 6 No.

Speaker 1 Nam Diasanwa?

Speaker 6 No, his name is Hassan Reddick.

Speaker 1 No, yeah. I mean, I already, you heard me try to make the trade.

Speaker 6 Yeah, the trade was actually executed, I believe.

Speaker 1 I don't think it was ever executed. He wanted a second.
He wanted a second. I would only give him a third.

Speaker 6 So the bad news news is for the Eagles, you're playing against the best offense in the NFL.

Speaker 6 I know it's only through two weeks, but it's a record-setting offense through two weeks, and it's not really a good position for a get-right game.

Speaker 6 You guys would absolutely love to go up against a bottom-tier offense

Speaker 6 just to feel better.

Speaker 1 I don't like the Eagles winning this game.

Speaker 1 I believe in the Saints.

Speaker 1 And I don't believe in the Eagles.

Speaker 1 The pass rush is just.

Speaker 1 The D-line is going to ruin the

Speaker 1 Brown. No,

Speaker 1 I don't feel good about this game at all. And Nick Siriani making decisions of any kind.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 He just needs to be.

Speaker 1 He's.

Speaker 1 And we say it all the time when we like defend Dan Campbell. Just have some consistency, Nick Siriani.
You know?

Speaker 1 You go for it.

Speaker 1 Do you go for it in the first half? You don't go for it at the end of the game. What are you doing? Agreed.
Just have consistency. Stick to a plan.

Speaker 1 Just be like, this is the way we're going to run this operation, and we're going to do it this way. And that's what we're doing.
But yeah,

Speaker 1 I think the Saints are for real. I know they won their two games, half of their sample size against the Panthers, but I still like the Saints.
I think they're flying around on defense, too.

Speaker 1 That's the part that's a little surprising to me.

Speaker 6 And the offense looks, it's different. It's different from the Saints' offenses that we've seen in the past.

Speaker 6 There's more complications. There's more motion.
So it puts a lot of pressure on the defense. And just don't run the pre-vent defense.

Speaker 1 Do you think we gave the Saints coach a little bulletin board when we picked him last? And the I still can't remember his name, but Dennis Allen.

Speaker 1 Dennis Allen, when we was the last overall pick in our coaches' draft?

Speaker 6 No, I think he's used to it by now.

Speaker 1 No, and I don't really attribute any of the start for the Saints on Dennis Allen. Okay, he doesn't get into Craig.

Speaker 6 It's Clint Kubiak.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there's another Kubiak. Yeah, I know.
He's got a brother. Yeah, it's crazy.
Yeah. All right, that was fun.
All right.

Speaker 1 We've got two more early games. Broncos at Bucs.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 this is a gross one, Hank. I think I might take the Broncos.

Speaker 6 That is a gross one.

Speaker 6 I saw that. Was it six and a half?

Speaker 1 It's six and a half. So, my thought process is.

Speaker 6 It's a sucker line. I thought about it, too, though.

Speaker 1 The Broncos have played the Seahawks on the road week one with Bo Nicks, and then they played a very good Steelers defense. I think the Bucs defense, obviously, super banged up.

Speaker 1 Baker's been phenomenal. I do think Baker is probably playing a little bit above where he's going to end up average-wise.

Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 1 yeah, I don't know. I also,

Speaker 1 it's gross for every single reason because

Speaker 1 do you know the record for the Broncos in the last eight games?

Speaker 7 Last eight games. One and seven.
No.

Speaker 1 0-8.

Speaker 1 0-8 is actually partially correct. They're 2-6.

Speaker 1 Their two wins were both against Easton Stick. Okay.
So, yeah, pretty much 0-8. Yeah.

Speaker 1 We also had Sean Payton said after the game on Sunday, we have to start start really looking at who we are asking to do what. What scheme fits our players? What scheme fits our quarterback?

Speaker 1 It's your quarterback in your scheme, Sean.

Speaker 6 That's yours. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Who are you asking?

Speaker 6 You should have asked that question before the draft.

Speaker 1 You should have asked that question before the draft, mini-camp, training camp, preseason, week one. You shouldn't be asking the question now.

Speaker 6 He's going to try to figure it out in as many ways as possible. See, we talked about using more RPOs against them.
He's just going to throw a lot of shit at the wall, see what sticks.

Speaker 6 The one thing I will say that's good for the Broncos is Sean Payton knows the division.

Speaker 6 He knows the Bucs pretty well. That's true.
He's got one really good player on defense and Patrick Sertan.

Speaker 6 And I don't know if you stick him on Mike Evans for the whole game, that means that Chris Godwin is just going to eat you alive because Chris Godwin's been playing really well this week.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the Lions just weren't covering him.

Speaker 1 Again, this is gross. I just think that the Bucs, it's pretty much the NFL.
You're never as bad as everyone thinks you are. You're never as good as everyone thinks you you are.

Speaker 1 Everyone thinks the Bucs are incredible. Everyone thinks the Broncos are the worst.
It's got to be somewhere closer to the middle.

Speaker 6 Yeah, probably. But, I mean, I think

Speaker 6 I see six and a half. Yeah.

Speaker 6 And I just, I want to take it, but I imagine, again, this is one of those blinking red light situations where it's like, if I love a bet that much, you probably should not take it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I just think Bo Nicks might be a little bit better because Sean Payton might actually start thinking about his quarterback in the ski.

Speaker 6 So it's like with Bo Nicks, they might do kind of what the Falcons had to do at the end of the game with Kirk Cousins, which is just go out there, like like make, build the entire offense out of your two-minute drill.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's what I wanted them to do with Justin Fields forever. Just let them just go out there and sling it.

Speaker 1 Okay, speaking of another stinky one, Packers at Titans,

Speaker 1 Malik Willis. So we're doing the Jordan Love fake.
He's going to play thing. I don't think Jordan Love's going to play.
He was in practice, but I don't think he's going to play.

Speaker 1 There's no reason for the Packers to risk playing him this week.

Speaker 6 What they're doing, I think, is essentially a play-action fake before the game.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's part of Matt LaFleur's strategy.

Speaker 6 Yeah, they're like, get ready for the pass. We're going to pass it, and then Malik's going to play, and we're just going to run the ball again.

Speaker 1 They have,

Speaker 1 they've already, the Malik Willis era in Green Bay is already a success.

Speaker 1 Because when Jordan Love went down in the first week of the season and you said, hey, he's going to miss, you know, whatever, three to four games.

Speaker 1 If you're a Packer fan, if you're in the Packers organization, you're like, if we can eke out one or two wins in this stretch, we're good.

Speaker 1 So they have the Vikings next week, which will be big for the NFC North. And why would you play Malik Willis? Or sorry, why would you play Jordan Love against a very good defense in the Titans?

Speaker 1 I think it's all smokescreens. I think it's Malik Willis again.

Speaker 1 I also like the Titans.

Speaker 6 Malik Willis revenge game.

Speaker 1 But not really because of that quote.

Speaker 6 He did say, I could care less. Yeah.
I think I got paid the whole time I was there. Yeah.
Which is, that's a good way to look at it. He's got perspective.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he said, shout out Miss Amy, which I love whenever they miss on a Miss Amy, the owner of the Titans.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, I kind of would want my quarterback to be a little more like, yeah, it's a fucking revenge game. Yeah.
Fuck yeah, it is.

Speaker 6 Yeah, but again, if Malik Willis was like, yes, it's a revenge game, then he goes in there and he wants to do too much Malik Willis. Yeah.

Speaker 6 Like last week, the Packers dialed down the Malik Willis level to like 0.5 out of 10, and they won the football game.

Speaker 6 If you crank that knob up and you're like, we're going seven out of 10, Malik Willis, that's when he starts to do Malik Willis things.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 1 So here's my case for the Titans.

Speaker 1 Their first two games went basically exactly the same, where their defense balled out, they got a punt blocked, and Will Levis had a horrendous turnover that fucked him.

Speaker 1 One was a pick six against the Bears, the other was fumble backwards on the six-yard line going in.

Speaker 1 I'm doing visualization. There's been a lot of talk.
You know, Brian Callahan, motherfucking Will Levis. Will Levis actually saying, yeah, of course he motherfucked me.
I'm an idiot.

Speaker 1 I was motherfucking myself. I think this is going to be a four o'clock or 3.30 Central Time, whatever, 4.30 Central Time.
The picture is Will Levis and Brian Callahan arm in arm, smiling.

Speaker 1 We finally got a win. We did it.
Everything's working.

Speaker 1 That's just my visualization for this game.

Speaker 6 It sounds like a daydream.

Speaker 1 It might be a daydream. I also have a stat for you that's pretty remarkable

Speaker 1 from CBS Research. The Titans are 0-2

Speaker 1 despite allowing the fewest total yards in the NFL. So the last time that happened, that a team started 0-2

Speaker 1 with allowing the fewest total yards in the NFL through two weeks, was the 1994 Cardinals, who actually started 0-3 and ended up finishing 8-8.

Speaker 1 So my point behind all that is the Titans are probably better than their 0-2 record.

Speaker 1 They'll be in some of these games. They were in both their games.

Speaker 6 Yeah, and listen,

Speaker 6 some of those yards came on turnovers that were deep in your opponent's territory. Right.
So

Speaker 6 that's not doing you any favors.

Speaker 1 And again, Malik Willis, that was a phenomenal game plan against the Colts. Matt LaFlore is a really, really good coach.
I expected that out of Matt LaFlore. He threw some wrinkles.

Speaker 1 He played to their strengths.

Speaker 1 I just think this Titans' defense is different than the Colts' defense, where you're not going to be able to run the ball like you did, and Malik Willis is going to be pressured in a way that the Colts weren't able to pressure Mark Lawrence.

Speaker 6 Are you a little bit worried that the Packers have fixed their defense?

Speaker 1 They might have fixed a little bit of their defense. Jeff Hafleys, yeah.

Speaker 6 So they did.

Speaker 1 He went from a head coaching job in college to defensive coordinator.

Speaker 6 Yeah, they didn't turn the ball ball over last year on defense, and now I think they lead the league in interceptions.

Speaker 1 They did play Jalen Hurts and Anthony Richardson.

Speaker 6 It's true.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 6 But no, they're going to lump Jalen in with Anthony?

Speaker 1 For turnovers. Okay, okay.

Speaker 1 No, the Packers' defense is good. I think the Packers are a good team, and

Speaker 1 I expected them to win last week.

Speaker 1 Like I said, this is how good organizations run. You lose your quarterback, and they still find a way to tread water.

Speaker 1 I'm buying the Titans. It's stupid.
They'll probably end up losing by seven somehow, lead the game all game, and then lose by seven, but I'm going to do it.

Speaker 6 I don't hate it. I don't hate it.
And I, in fact, I like betting on teams that look really, really bad against teams that just look really, really good. Right.
It's a good formula.

Speaker 1 Right. And the Titans' defense is very, very good.
And because of their 0-2 record, I think they're getting overlooked a little bit.

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Speaker 1 Okay, afternoon sleep. Boys, some good ones.

Speaker 1 Not a great one, but let's talk about it. Panthers at Raiders.

Speaker 6 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Stinky. We didn't mention, by the way, we should have mentioned that

Speaker 1 we should have predicted on Sunday night that Bryce Young was 100% going to lose his job because Dave Canalis did say Bryce Young is our quarterback. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 And 24 hours later, he was like, just kidding, Andy Dalton's our quarterback. There's no better sign of a quarterback not being your quarterback anymore than saying Bryce Young is our quarterback.

Speaker 1 The old Lovey Rex is our quarterback. Now, that's just, that's, that's the death knell for a quarterback.

Speaker 6 You might have just said Bryce Young is a quarterback.

Speaker 1 He never

Speaker 6 thought that he said R. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. There's reports that Bryce Young was pissed.

Speaker 6 Well, of course he's pissed. He's probably pissed at himself.
He's probably embarrassed.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 I mean,

Speaker 6 it's been pretty embarrassing.

Speaker 6 what he's put on tape for the last season and two games. It's really, really crazy to think that they went this entire offseason, didn't play him in the preseason, except for like one drive.

Speaker 6 And then they're like, okay, I think we're good to go with Bryce. So yeah, you can say, I think two things are true.
I think you can say the organization failed him. Yes.

Speaker 6 And you can also say that Bryce doesn't look like he's very good at playing quarterback at the NFL level on his own.

Speaker 1 Right. It's also

Speaker 1 very apparent the organization failed him in the fact that there are two Panthers quarterbacks who are leading the league in touchdowns.

Speaker 6 Yeah, and then another guy that the Panthers could have had that hasn't thrown an interception yet.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Baker Mayfield and Sam Darneau being ex-Panthers in that picture being like, yeah, this is what happened. So I do feel bad for Bryce.
I do think they're live in this game because of Andy.

Speaker 6 Yeah, so all of his teammates have to be feeling like a little bit better that they have a quarterback that can go out there and maybe complete a pass.

Speaker 6 Like Adam Thielen has to be, every play, he has to be like... Running a little bit harder.
The offensive line has to be playing like a tiny bit harder because they think that they have a chance.

Speaker 1 Those guys know. They know in the locker room who gives them the best chance to win, and it's Andy Dalton.
Andy Dalton did play last year for the Panthers.

Speaker 1 He had a dinosaur, though. But he had that game against the Seahawks where he threw for like 300-plus yards.

Speaker 6 He's still got the red rifle arm. He's still good.

Speaker 1 So are you going to do it?

Speaker 7 I think I'm going to bet them plus five. I don't.
Money line is.

Speaker 7 Okay. Seems crazy.

Speaker 1 Here's something that's so bad. The Raiders have not.
Moneyline stinks. The Raiders have not been able to run the ball.
So the Raiders are averaging two and a half yards per carry for 39 rushes.

Speaker 1 The Panthers, your strategy of betting

Speaker 1 running back to score against the Panthers has worked well this year.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I don't know if I'm going to do it this week.

Speaker 1 Well, I don't know if the Raiders can run the ball.

Speaker 6 Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, Alexander Madison, he's got two touchdowns, but he hasn't been good at all, really.
Yeah. Or he hasn't been productive at all, is a better way to put it.

Speaker 6 He's scored. The Raiders have had

Speaker 6 a mixed bag, but I don't love the idea of the Panthers defense getting carved up.

Speaker 1 We also have Garter Mitch. You might have found his swag back.
I think he's leading the league in completion percentage.

Speaker 1 But do you remember the clip of Max Crosby going and talking to Gardner Minshew on the sideline during the Ravens game? So Max Crosby, or sorry, Gardner Minshew said what he was told by Max Crosby.

Speaker 1 He said, he grabbed me and just said, hey, we got your back, dude. We need that Washington State Gardner.
We need that. And Gardner said, man, you're right, dude.

Speaker 1 Let me see if I can go whip that up real quick. Love that.

Speaker 1 He whipped up the cougar. He's just like, let me whip that gardener up real quick i like that

Speaker 6 that's the best gardener yeah the best garden is when he's showing up for games wearing like a bomber jacket in the aviators is

Speaker 6 he's just in mode southern rock gardener is the absolute best i i think i would take i would take gardner minshew if he said i'm gonna whip that up anything anything that he whips up i'm i'm buying if he if he's whipping i'm getting whipped yeah let's do it uh brock bowers has looked awesome awesome he's looked awesome they have exact opposite hair brock bowers and gardner minshew yeah there's definitely some jealousy going on that

Speaker 6 I think Brock Bowers has the most receiving yards in the first two games in NFL history for any rookie for a tight end. He surpassed Mike Ditka.

Speaker 3 How about that?

Speaker 1 How about that? Gronk said that Brock Bowers is next up. He anointed him.
With Gronk. Gronk, it's got to be so awesome to be Gronk just being like, yeah, I was the best ever because he said, like,

Speaker 1 he could be on my tier.

Speaker 6 I like that. But the thing is, if Gronk tried to do, if he played in Vegas, I don't think that would have worked out.

Speaker 1 No, that would not have. Early Gronk, no chance.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 It's going to be a game-time decision whether I take the Panthers.

Speaker 6 Probably stupid. We also have

Speaker 6 a little reunion between Andy Dalton and Marvin Lewis.

Speaker 1 Ooh.

Speaker 6 Get the gang back together.

Speaker 6 Maybe some tears. Make.

Speaker 6 My visualization is a giant post-game hug between Andy Dalton and Marvin Lewis after this game.

Speaker 6 I don't know who's going to win, who's going to be happier in that hug, but they're going to hug the shit out of each other.

Speaker 1 Seems like two guys that don't, they can't have bad blood. Yeah, they're just two nice guys.

Speaker 6 You can't hate, like, the stuff that they accomplished for the Bengals was remarkable given the history of the Bengals.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no playoff wins, but still winning the winners.

Speaker 6 No playoff wins, but they went to the playoffs a lot. Always on Saturday at noon against the Texans.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 1 Okay, next up, Dolphins and Seahawks. So it's Skylar Thompson time.
I was trying to talk. By the way, I think the Seahawks are very good.
I think Gino is very good. I think the Seahawks are very good.

Speaker 1 If Kenneth Walker can get healthy, I think that's a complete team. The Dolphins,

Speaker 1 Skylar Thompson is going to start.

Speaker 1 They're saying all the right things that

Speaker 1 Mike McDaniel said, Skylar Thompson is a new man. He said, when you're watching in 2024, it might be the same name on the jersey, but you're seeing a different man.

Speaker 1 I was trying to get myself to be like, maybe I'll bet on the Dolphins. And then I kept on hitting a wall, and I was trying to figure out what's that wall, and I found it.

Speaker 1 Skylar Thompson wearing number 19 is terrible.

Speaker 6 That's a bad quarterback name.

Speaker 1 It's Johnny Unitis and nothing else. Yeah, you can't.

Speaker 6 Yeah, number 19. It's a good backup quarterback number if he never gets on the field

Speaker 6 after he steps on the field.

Speaker 6 It's a just warning sign that this is a very backup quarterback.

Speaker 1 It's not only a bad, so I think they should never have a quarterback

Speaker 1 number 19 since Johnny United. Like, don't do it.
That was Johnny Unitis' number.

Speaker 1 I was looking up who else wore number 19. Joe Montana did, but with the Chiefs.
So that's kind of indicative of it. Also, fun fact:

Speaker 1 there are three numbers, sorry, four numbers, including 19, that a starting quarterback has never won a Super Bowl with.

Speaker 1 Number one,

Speaker 1 number two, Cam Newton and Matt Ryan came close, and number six. So 1-2-6-19.

Speaker 6 Cutler, who else was six?

Speaker 3 I don't know.

Speaker 1 Probably some other non-quarter Super Bowl winning quarterback.

Speaker 6 Yeah, Mark Sanchez.

Speaker 1 Yeah, 19 is not.

Speaker 1 And then, so I went even deeper, and I tried to find top 10 players,

Speaker 1 number 19.

Speaker 1 And this just further proves that you should not wear number 19 because Johnny United was obviously number one. They had Joe Montana 8 because it was Chiefs Joe Montana.

Speaker 1 Do you want to know who number five was? This is why number 19 does not work.

Speaker 1 This is the fifth best, according to just a random website, which obviously doesn't really matter, the fifth best player to wear number 19.

Speaker 6 There's no chance I can guess this.

Speaker 1 Juju Smith Schuster. Okay.
According to this list. Yeah, I mean, that's a bad number.
It's a bad number. I saw it.
I was like, what the fuck? He's in one good year.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, also, the list doesn't really make sense because, like, Amari Cooper is number nine. Ted Ginn Jr., who is better than Juju, was number seven.
Adam Thielen, also better than Juju 6.

Speaker 1 But I just laughed at seeing that. Yeah, that's it.
Being like, what the fuck?

Speaker 6 That's wildly disrespectful of Ted Ginn.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, it was Johnny United, Lance Allworth, Keyshawn, Bernie Kosar, Juju.

Speaker 6 Yeah, it's not good.

Speaker 6 Number 19. Ideally, if you had to just draw it up and say, my starting quarterback on my franchise will wear this number, what number would that be?

Speaker 6 What's the best quarterback number visually?

Speaker 1 Okay, I think it's 12 is pretty high.

Speaker 1 I think it's three numbers. I think it's 7, 12, 18.

Speaker 6 I kind of like 17, too.

Speaker 6 Okay. 17 looks pretty good.

Speaker 1 I think 7, 12, 18, and then Mahomes is going to make 15.

Speaker 6 Mahomes and Debo.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Those are the numbers. When you think quarterback numbers, I'm like 7, 12, 18.

Speaker 6 12, 17,

Speaker 1 and 5. I like 5 a lot.
5? 5's a good number. 5's a good number.
5's a decent number.

Speaker 1 But yeah,

Speaker 1 that was my whole Skylar Thompson. He's wearing number 19.
I don't. 19 is

Speaker 1 your fourth wide receiver and awesome punt returner.

Speaker 6 19 is the guy that showed up late on the day they handed out the jerseys. Right.
And he's wearing one that doesn't even fit him.

Speaker 1 It's just not a good.

Speaker 6 Can I give you a counter stat to that? Yeah. So this might be a reason to bet on the Dolphins.
Okay. They're 8-0 with Kevin Harlan announcing their games since 2022.
Oh, wow.

Speaker 6 And this is going to be a Harlan game.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 6 So

Speaker 6 go perfect 9-0. 9-0.
They have the opportunity to go perfect on this.

Speaker 1 Harlan game. Yeah.

Speaker 6 I liked it. Didn't Frank the Tanks say that they never win when Kevin Harlan calls their games?

Speaker 1 That's a statistical fact.

Speaker 6 Yeah, but the counter statistic would be that they're perfect in the last two years with him on the call.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 So I don't know which one's right, if Frank's right or if the numbers are right.

Speaker 1 I'm going to say the numbers, you're probably right.

Speaker 6 I think Frank might be right.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 let's go with lions and cardinals so uh big news out of detroit dan campbell had to sell his house because lions fans found the address that sucks

Speaker 1 i would assume that would happen more frequently right like word gets out he said the he loves the neighborhood everything there's plenty of space it's on two acres the home is beautiful it's just that people figured out where we lived when we lost So what were they doing?

Speaker 1 I don't know. I mean, you could.
That's a little dramatic. You're a psycho if you go after Dan Campbell.
Come on. I hope it wasn't just after this loss.

Speaker 1 Like, I feel like people know where people live.

Speaker 7 Yeah, but it's not that crazy.

Speaker 1 But he sold his house. So

Speaker 1 he's got to be thinking about that. He's got to move.
I mean, moving sucks.

Speaker 6 Yeah, it does stink.

Speaker 7 Maybe he's just, maybe that's a little smokescreen.

Speaker 1 Might be.

Speaker 6 Yeah, if you just say that you're moving and then people are

Speaker 1 on it. Yeah.

Speaker 6 Hire like a U-Haul just to park in the driveway for a couple days.

Speaker 1 I think that loss to the Bucs was the best thing that could could happen to the Lions

Speaker 1 because Jared Goff threw the ball 55 times, which is not what you want to do as the Lions when you have Jameer Gibbs and David Montgomery. And

Speaker 1 if you want to beat the Cardinals, the Bills kind of showed how to do it. Just run the ball, run the ball, run the ball, play action, Josh making plays.

Speaker 1 The game against the Rams was over in the first quarter because of Kyler Murray. I think the Lions are going to get back to basics.
I think they're going to pound the rock.

Speaker 1 They're going to get play action going. Amon Ra has a leg injury, but I think he's going to play.
I think this was a good loss for the Lions that they got away from themselves a little bit.

Speaker 1 They tried to play a little bit too much into, oh, the Bucs secondary is banged up. Let's throw it all over them.

Speaker 1 And this one, and you read the quotes, Dan Campbell saying we've got to get Sam Lapora more involved. I think this is a good spot for the Lions.

Speaker 6 Yeah, so right now they have a split in the red zone on 31 red zone plays. They've passed the ball 18 times.
They've run it 13 times. So that's the second most pass attempts by percentage in the NFL.

Speaker 6 Last year, the Lions ran the ball 58% of the time in the red zone and threw it 42%. So it's like exactly flip-flop to where it was last year.
And Arizona's red zone defense stinks. Right.

Speaker 6 So it does feel like it's a get-right game for the Lions on that field.

Speaker 1 And they, like, sometimes you have these losses where you wake up and you're like, what just happened? Why did we do what we did? Where the Detroit Lions, we have a formula. It works.

Speaker 1 Just go back to it.

Speaker 6 Yeah. Also, it's going to be on the road, so Dan Campbell doesn't have to worry about people coming to his house.
Yeah. He's going to be gone.

Speaker 1 It's fun that this game is, like, think about this game five years ago. It would have stunk.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 And it's fun.

Speaker 1 It's a fun game.

Speaker 6 If I were Dan Campbell, I would just buy a farm. Just go live on a farm.
That's what you want to do anyway.

Speaker 6 Yeah, exactly. You should be living in your office.
You should be living in your playbook right now, Dan.

Speaker 1 Do you guys have any other thoughts on this game?

Speaker 1 This is my fun watch game of the week.

Speaker 6 It's nice.

Speaker 6 It's going to be a good uniform matchup. Sneaky, good uniform.
The uniforms and the colors, they scream points to me. Yep.

Speaker 1 Yep. Agreed.
Late afternoon. Kyler Murray doing crazy shit.
Marvin Harrison, he's arrived. Yeah.
Fully arrived.

Speaker 6 It'd be funny if they didn't pass him the ball in non-divisional matchups. Yeah.
And just only against the NFC West. We're like, we're going to unleash Marshall.

Speaker 1 He eat him. Eat him then.

Speaker 1 Okay, Ravens at Cowboys. Another fun game.

Speaker 1 Afternoon slate's great.

Speaker 1 So we've talked about kickers. We've talked about Justin Tucker.

Speaker 1 We sometimes accidentally do this on this show where we start a narrative and then weirdly we're right and the numbers completely back it up.

Speaker 1 So NFL kickers through the first two weeks are 35 of 37 on 50 plus yard field goals. The only two misses Justin Tucker.

Speaker 6 Yeah, he's got

Speaker 6 it. And we nailed it when we said that Justin Tucker's washed.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Well, everyone else is kicking these insanely long field goals and doing it easily and Justin Tucker can't.

Speaker 6 Yeah, so

Speaker 6 it's a must-win. I'm declaring it's a must-win for the Ravens.

Speaker 1 I think so.

Speaker 6 If they lose, I think only one team since the year 2000, since the expansion, has made the playoffs after starting 0-3.

Speaker 1 And they're out-gaining their opponents. They are playing good football minus the penalties.
It's just they got to win this game.

Speaker 1 I like the Ravens just because of purely sense of urgency.

Speaker 6 Yeah, and they've lost two close games in the fourth quarter in two very different ways. The one against the Chiefs, obviously, week one, was lost by like a toenail.

Speaker 6 And then the one against the Raiders was lost lost by just giving up an easy lead in the fourth quarter. So they got to get it right.
The Ravens have, it's a must-win for him.

Speaker 6 I like the Ravens this week. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Do you know, here's a weird stat that would blow your mind.

Speaker 1 If Mike McCarthy wins two more games this year, which I would assume he does, he will have broken the record for most wins by a Cowboys coach in their first five years.

Speaker 1 So he would have beaten Jimmy Johnson. Which is, that's kind of funny.
Kind of crazy.

Speaker 6 Does that include postseason?

Speaker 1 I don't think it includes postseason. It's because Jimmy Johnson inherited a terrible team and they won 1-15 his first year.
But Mike McCarthy, he knows how to rack up wins

Speaker 6 in the regular season. This does feel like a game that you can start to believe in the Cowboys and if they win.

Speaker 1 Yeah. This is a believe game.

Speaker 6 It's a believe game.

Speaker 1 It's a believe game. Whoever wins this game, it's like, yep, they're a good team.

Speaker 6 You should be able to add the Ravens as a pinky team if they go 0-3.

Speaker 6 Because at that point, you actually wouldn't think that they would win the Super Bowl, right?

Speaker 1 I'll consider it. Yeah, I'll consider it.
I'll consider it.

Speaker 1 People that want me to cut off my pink ears. Quite unsettling.

Speaker 1 49ers at Rams.

Speaker 1 Kitchen sink game.

Speaker 6 Ooh, I had this as in the lab game.

Speaker 1 Yeah, same thing. For Kyle? Yep.
Oh, I had it for Sean. Oh, I had it for.

Speaker 6 So I think Kyle is going to be in the lab.

Speaker 1 Oh, I think Sean's throwing the kitchen sink.

Speaker 6 So it's a kitchen sink versus lab game. Wow.
What's the more important room?

Speaker 1 I think Sean McVay is going to do some fuck shit. I think Sean McVay is going going to do similar to what Matt LaFleur did last week, being like, we don't have anyone.

Speaker 1 Here's some crazy shit you've never seen before.

Speaker 6 I think it's an in-the-lab game for Kyle because, one, he loves going to the lab against Sean. Yeah.
And he loves beating him. Two, they're without Debo and Christian McCaffrey.

Speaker 1 Which Sean loves beating Kyle.

Speaker 6 Sean loves beating Kyle.

Speaker 1 I'm pretty sure Sean beats Kyle except for the NFC Championship game. Or no, they beat him in the NFC Championship game.
What's the Rams? I'm pretty sure Sean beats Kyle.

Speaker 6 This is an annual tradition on part of my take where we mix up who owns who in the NFC West.

Speaker 1 Sean McVay versus Kyle Shanahan. What is the record?

Speaker 1 I have an upper hand. Okay, they have an upper hand.
Yeah, all right, so it's 10 and 5. For who? For Shanahan.
So Kyle owns Sean.

Speaker 6 Kyle owns Sean Manahan.

Speaker 1 But Sean owns Kyle in the playoffs. Okay.
He won the NFC Championship game.

Speaker 6 He won that NFC championship game. Yeah, but I know that Kyle loves beating the shit out of Sean McVay.
He's very good at it. Yeah.
And he's without Debo. He's without Christian McCaffrey.
Yep.

Speaker 1 And Hufanga is back. Who's back? Hufanga.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 So what I think he's going to do, this might be a juice check game.

Speaker 6 Because he likes, if he can't have Debo running the weird gadget shit, doing strange stuff out of the slot, he likes doing that with his fullback, too.

Speaker 1 I could see that happening. I just, the reason why I like the Rams in this game is, and it's gross.

Speaker 1 The way that game went on Sunday, they just, that game was over. Almost basically afterwards, Sean Payton or Sean McVay said there's no positives to take away from this game.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 like it just burned the tapes.

Speaker 1 Even his wife was doing an Instagram story that said, tough times don't last, tough people do. She's a Razor Ramon fan.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't know. I think this is going to be tighter than we think because it feels like the Rams might be dead, but they got one more shot.
Hey, let's throw everything at it. Kitchen sink.

Speaker 6 Aren't they getting one of their guys back?

Speaker 1 They're getting some offensive lines.

Speaker 6 The guys back from his suspension, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah, and then Cooper Cup and Puka are both out.

Speaker 6 Yeah, so the line might get one better guy back. I don't know.
I guess this is going to be a determination. Like, what's better? A kitchen sink or the lab? Yeah.

Speaker 6 And I think Kyle's, I think he's got his mad scientist coat on this week. I love that.
He's got the biofocals, graduated cylinders, beakers,

Speaker 1 Bunsen burners. All right, so last game, Chiefs at Falcons.

Speaker 1 We should have said Raheem Morris, all-time coach, having his players back after Drake London got the

Speaker 1 flag for doing the gun

Speaker 1 signal. He said Drake is a great kid.
His intent was not as a use of a weapon. He probably was shooting t-shirts into the stands, to be honest with you, because he's just that kind of guy.

Speaker 6 I love that. That's a great spin-off.
That's great. I went back, I watched the all-22 on the celebration.
He was tapping the side of the gun.

Speaker 6 He was showing tremendous trigger disappearance.

Speaker 1 He was probably showing the safeties on.

Speaker 6 Yeah, yeah, exactly. His fingers were on the side of the gun and he was tapping it.
It was not on the trigger. Yeah.
So I guess in the woke NFL, you can't even shoot a gun in the crowd anymore.

Speaker 6 It's crazy. It's wild.
It's crazy.

Speaker 1 I kind of like the Falcons.

Speaker 1 Did you also know that the Falcons are giving away free hot dogs free chips free refillable drinks on uh sunday night i did not know that it is for the induction of arthur blank into the ring of honor which that's awesome don't really understand that because if you're the owner why wouldn't you just put yourself in it right away that's the best part about being an owner is you can have a night commemorating yourself yeah he's there they have the souvenir cups i think arthur blank

Speaker 1 does yeah the souvenir cups just have a big picture of his face on it I got to get one of those fits. And you get the free hot dog, free chips, free refillable drinks.

Speaker 6 Every team should do their owner's night. Yeah.
And then you should sell the cups. And I would collect all 32 owner's cups.

Speaker 1 A celebration of Arthur. I don't think

Speaker 1 they can't lose on Arthur Blank night.

Speaker 6 No. He's going to be on the sidelines the entire game.

Speaker 1 The fans come to see Art.

Speaker 6 Yeah. So are they going to retire his number?

Speaker 1 I guess so, or his suit?

Speaker 6 Just hang it. Yeah, they should hang a giant red suit.
His face. The velvet.
Yeah. His mustache.

Speaker 1 Hang a giant Home Depot banner at midfield i just think the chiefs are even though they're 2-0 they haven't looked incredible they've survived two tough games no pacheco no pacheco carson steele's gonna and they also signed kareem hunt um i just yeah i think that i think the falcons that that was one of those galvanizing wins they might have they might have gotten their groove back they kind of feel good about themselves although i do want i want to see a carson steele game yeah i want to for uh for crocky the alligator yeah they they said i saw a beat reporter said that someone on the Falcons said this was one of the biggest wins they've had, or if not the biggest win in like the last five years, which I think it was.

Speaker 6 Oh, for sure. Yeah.
Easily the best win they've had in the last five years.

Speaker 1 So this is a turning point.

Speaker 1 I think the Falcons are live. Yeah.
No, they're not. The Falcons are live.

Speaker 6 I think going up against Andy Reid and Spaggs is going to be a little bit different than going up against a team with no coach.

Speaker 1 I do worry about the matchup Chris Jones versus Kirk Cousins Achilles. Yeah.
That one scares me a little. But we'll see.

Speaker 6 Just go huddle the entire time. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Two-minute drill the the whole time rip it just rip it the entire time um okay so uh a couple things we got to do we got to do our picks but we also have to do our touchdown parlay so max you're out i'm in uh pft hank and i are gonna do it so everyone can go bet on it on the draft kings touchdown parlay profit boost they

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Speaker 1 So we will have this up,

Speaker 1 I think, Friday night. So you can bet it.

Speaker 1 We're 0-2 on the season, but we're going down to three games.

Speaker 1 I think, what did we have? One out of three last week? Yep. So let's get a winner.
Let's get a winner. Hank, give us someone.

Speaker 7 I'm going to go with Nico Collins.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 7 CJ Stroud's favorite target. Okay.

Speaker 1 He's a little banged up, but he'll be okay.

Speaker 1 Why you got it? Because I have him in my fantasy leagues and he had the red thing next to him.

Speaker 6 What are the odds on him?

Speaker 1 I haven't changed anything. I just saw the red thing next to him.
You know what I'm talking about. It's plus one ten.

Speaker 1 Okay. I'm going to go with

Speaker 1 revenge game for himself for dropping that pass, Saquon Barkley.

Speaker 1 Okay. He's going to score.
He's got to. After that, after what happened.

Speaker 7 And being down on the goal line, right?

Speaker 1 He's got to score. He's gonna, they're gonna make sure he scores,

Speaker 6 but Kat, I want to take Khalil Herbert. Okay, talk me out of it.

Speaker 1 I like it.

Speaker 6 No, I can't. It's a little juicy.
I can't. Plus 255.

Speaker 1 I can't. I can't.

Speaker 6 Colts defense, not good at all.

Speaker 1 Peter Hate wants to talk.

Speaker 7 I'm a hater, but you, you, everything I say, so he's a little banged up.

Speaker 6 Well, I'm going away from my sister.

Speaker 1 That's fair. That's fair.
That's fair by you.

Speaker 6 I even think, for some dumb reason, I think that having Andy Dalton as your quarterback in Carolina is going to make the defense play harder.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 So I'm not going to pick against the Panthers in this. I'm going to take Khalil Herbert.

Speaker 1 Who do you have? Nico? Do you want to pick...

Speaker 1 All right. Should we pick one afternoon one so it's spaced out? So it's too early one afternoon? I can change mine from Saquon.
I can change mine. No, no.
I kind of like these.

Speaker 6 Let's just go with it.

Speaker 1 All right. You want to? Yeah.
It's good to say like Dave Montgomery or Jameer Gibbs, but yeah, okay.

Speaker 6 It's good to get a win early.

Speaker 1 All right. Let's get a win early.
Let's do it, boys. So go find that in the DraftKings sports book.

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Speaker 1 Is memes here?

Speaker 1 Memes! Memes here.

Speaker 1 Memes.

Speaker 1 Memes, the Jets Patriots game. Everyone already heard us react to it, but you can predict it right now.

Speaker 1 I'm going to say 30 to 3. Oh!

Speaker 6 Who wins?

Speaker 1 Jets. Okay.

Speaker 1 All right, so let's do our picks. We have decided on a punishment.

Speaker 1 And we've, yeah, we, well, I guess you haven't, you weren't there when Max Piety and I talked, but I think you'll be fine with it.

Speaker 1 Last place in

Speaker 1 the Picks League this year is going to have to go to a bachelor party and wedding.

Speaker 1 Same one?

Speaker 1 Just become new friends?

Speaker 1 Same couple? What do you think about that, Hank?

Speaker 1 Sure. AWLs.

Speaker 6 I think you should have to blog it too. Who's picking?

Speaker 1 Vlog it. You have to vlog it.
Vlog it. Everyone's going to get whoever goes.

Speaker 1 You might have to bring a cameraman.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
Might have to. That's why.
So, I mean, me and memes are just fucked regardless. What the fuck?

Speaker 3 No, you don't have to go.

Speaker 1 No, we don't have to have you.

Speaker 1 You don't like it, Hank?

Speaker 1 No, that's good. Good punishment.
And then second place will have to go to a retirement party.

Speaker 1 That's fun. Yeah.
Yeah. Or divorce party.

Speaker 6 I kind of like divorce party.

Speaker 1 They can choose, retirement or divorce. I'd like to go to a retirement party.
I think that'd be fun. We're not going to do a funeral.

Speaker 6 Divorce parties get wild.

Speaker 1 If a funeral pops up,

Speaker 6 we're not going to go.

Speaker 6 Now,

Speaker 6 to tie in with the Super Bowl, though, what if second place did the

Speaker 6 Shadow Mincy round for three days in New Orleans?

Speaker 1 I think the last place should have to do that, if anything, but we could maybe add that. Hank,

Speaker 1 I'm feeling like you don't love it.

Speaker 1 Let's talk it out. Let's be open.
What are we thinking? Let's talk it out.

Speaker 7 I'm fine with whatever you guys want to do.

Speaker 1 But let's talk it out.

Speaker 1 I don't want to be at no bad ideas. I know it is.

Speaker 1 There's no bad ideas. Let's just talk it out.

Speaker 7 How do we sell this?

Speaker 6 You sell the vlog and you sell the blogs.

Speaker 1 Why can't we sell the Bachelor Party to Coors Light or something like that?

Speaker 1 You were the one who was like, why does everything have to be a stream when I said that?

Speaker 7 No, well, like the.

Speaker 7 If we did the Chevy drop across the country, it wasn't a stream. You don't think stand-up was a pay-per-view.

Speaker 1 You don't think someone would be down to

Speaker 1 sponsor this? Like, we could get the bachelor party paid for, and it's like it's brought to you by this. We get all the shirts, everyone wearing it.
So we talked about it. Well,

Speaker 1 let's not put that out there. Okay.

Speaker 6 But it's a possibility. I don't know if that's

Speaker 6 a possibility.

Speaker 1 Yeah, disclaimer.

Speaker 1 It's a possibility. It's 100% true that your bachelor party will be paid for.
Correct. Correct.
Correct.

Speaker 1 But we could potentially figure out a way to have a situation where it's like we almost plan your bachelor party for you. But again.
Not paid for.

Speaker 1 We don't know this. Right.
We don't know any of this. Yep.
Maybe one night.

Speaker 1 This is all speculative. Your wedding is paid for.

Speaker 1 Pardon my cheesesteak.

Speaker 6 Yeah.

Speaker 6 I think what Hank's upset about is the fact that the stand-up is way worse of a punishment than going to a wedding and a bachelor party. That's what he's upset about.

Speaker 1 This is the past is the past. We've got to get over the past.
The past is the past. We also, Hank, and I discussed someone's got to do a pinball punishment.
Ooh.

Speaker 1 I mean, the bachelor party and wedding sucks really bad for me. And PFT, probably.

Speaker 1 Sucks. good.
That's pretty bad for me.

Speaker 6 It could be okay.

Speaker 1 Really, really bad. I do think it'd be funny content, especially if you find an AWL.

Speaker 7 How many days would you go for? Two.

Speaker 1 You have to go for at least two.

Speaker 6 Two nights. Two nights.

Speaker 1 Leave Friday, come back Sunday. Yeah.
Yeah. Have to go for at least two nights.
Because of the show.

Speaker 1 Hank, think about this.

Speaker 1 You probably get to golf. I'm down.
I'm down. Probably get to golf.
I'm down. And if the person wants one of us to be in their wedding, that also, we're down.

Speaker 1 Yeah. We get a suit sponsor.
Imagine being in it.

Speaker 6 I mean, Max is definitely going to lose their money.

Speaker 1 It's going to be AWLs who are cool with this.

Speaker 6 The one weekend Max doesn't have a wedding. He's going to have to do it as a punishment.

Speaker 1 Oh, because I am in last right now. Yeah.
It'd be so funny. You're just going to basically make a whole new group of friends, and they're our listeners.
So this gets the listeners involved, too.

Speaker 1 All right. So

Speaker 1 what's the record so far? I think everyone's.

Speaker 1 Oh, there you go. Hank three and one.

Speaker 3 And the pick hat wings two and two. Max one, two and

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 6 That tie is going to stick around for a while. Yeah.
That tie's going to make a difference.

Speaker 1 All right. Who's up first? And it was a fucking Bonicks last-minute nothing touchdown.
Who's up first? PFT.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 6 I'm going to go

Speaker 6 with

Speaker 6 the Dolphins Seahawks. I'm going to take the under

Speaker 1 on that game. Ooh, okay.

Speaker 1 I'm going to go with the Bears. Don't laugh, Hank.
The Bears Colts over 43.5.

Speaker 1 Don't laugh. Okay, I won't.
Thank you.

Speaker 7 I'm going to take a look.

Speaker 6 The Dolphin Seahawks under is right now 41.5. Okay.

Speaker 7 I'm going to take the Commanders Bengals under 47. Ooh.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay. I'm going to take Saints minus two and a half.
Against two. Good pick.
The Eagles.

Speaker 1 Good pick, memes. The Eagles.

Speaker 1 I am going to

Speaker 1 start with Rams,

Speaker 1 Niners

Speaker 1 under 44.5.

Speaker 1 And I'm going to get stinky. Yeah, get stinky.
Panthers plus five. Yeah, I love it.
I love it.

Speaker 1 I'm going to take the Lions, Cardinals over 51.5.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 7 I will take, I was going to take the Panthers.

Speaker 7 I will go with the,

Speaker 7 I guess, 49ers, minus 7.

Speaker 1 Hank, that's not you. I know.
That's not you, Hank. Don't do that.
That's not you.

Speaker 9 That's so stinky.

Speaker 1 That's not you, Hank. Take the Broncos.

Speaker 6 Do you want to get real stinky, Hank?

Speaker 1 Yeah, let's get it. The Broncos are stinky.

Speaker 6 It's so stinky.

Speaker 7 No, my pick is made.

Speaker 1 Oh, your pick is in.

Speaker 1 Officially. Yep.

Speaker 6 All right, take the Giants. That's also stinky.

Speaker 1 I'll take the Falcons plus three now. Fuck.

Speaker 1 You got to just go against Malik Willis again.

Speaker 1 You got to get your revenge. It's a personal revenge game for you.

Speaker 6 I'm going to double my bet from last week. I'm going to go with the Titans.
Yes.

Speaker 1 I believe you this time. Last week, I didn't believe you.
This week this time.

Speaker 6 This might be the last time I get to bet against Malik Willis. There you go.
Let's go. You have to take advantage of these moments.
Yes.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Give it up for Chicago.

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Speaker 1 Oi! Oi! Oi! All nights! What's up, Ven? What's up, then?

Speaker 6 My name is Pippin Tolly.

Speaker 1 Pippin Tolly. Hi, Pippin.

Speaker 7 Lord of the Blackwater.

Speaker 1 My stock him this week.

Speaker 7 Dylan Royal.

Speaker 1 Dylan Royale.

Speaker 7 He's lost 8,000 to win the Heisman.

Speaker 7 He's got a lot of Aders on his feet.

Speaker 1 Patty Mahomes.

Speaker 7 I think he's going to come out and show people that he's better than Patty Mahomes.

Speaker 1 Patty Mahomes is copying him. He's not copying Patty.

Speaker 6 Who will number 15 first?

Speaker 7 He's got swagger. I think Dustin Pedroia did, actually, mate.

Speaker 3 Oh, all right. Learn for baseball.

Speaker 1 I peed in his pool once. Learn footy.

Speaker 3 My set

Speaker 3 is the office Australia.

Speaker 1 Oh, Australia. Oi.

Speaker 7 America tried to copy our show first and it sucked.

Speaker 1 Oh, and this shows. What do they think they're doing? This show's gonna suck even more.
They're taking a piss out of it.

Speaker 7 They can't even fucking hold a jock strap to our office, mate.

Speaker 6 Ricky Gervais, classic, classic comedian.

Speaker 6 Who's played Ricky Java? He's from Pittsburgh. Ricky Gervais? Yeah.

Speaker 1 I didn't know that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Our accents are slipping.

Speaker 6 Right, here's the thing.

Speaker 1 Here's the thing. Here's the thing, Peppin.

Speaker 6 Here's the thing. Are you done?

Speaker 1 Are you done? Who's you got my sleeper? Alright,

Speaker 1 get on with it. Your sleeper.
Baltimore Orioles. Baltimore Orioles?

Speaker 7 Orioles, they're my sleeper to win the World Series.

Speaker 1 Ah, damn, have you watched the Baltimore Orioles recently? Yeah, I did. You definitely haven't, because they fucking stink.

Speaker 7 I watch cricket, but I think the Orioles, I'm just thinking who's gonna beat the Phils. Yeah, I don't want to be the freaking Yankees.

Speaker 1 The Baltimore Orioles might not even make the playoffs, eh?

Speaker 7 Is that possible?

Speaker 1 It is possible. They've been playing the terrible, terrible baseball.
They are shite. They are a shite.
They are utter shite. Well, that's why they're sleepers.
Everyone's sleeping on them.

Speaker 7 Craig Kimbre also sleeping. He sucks.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they're two.

Speaker 7 They just waved the closer. They're two and eight.

Speaker 1 They've waved him. They've waved him.
He's the best closer as an MLB.

Speaker 6 He's the one who sets up like a bird, isn't he?

Speaker 1 The Baltimore Orioles are four games up in the wild card, but they've been two and eight in the last ten. Well, that's what I'm saying, mate.
The people are sleeping on them.

Speaker 6 Are they going to do an Australian version of the wire for Baltimore? Have all these guys send you to sleep.

Speaker 1 Shaiet. Shaite.
Shai. Shaite.
Sheet.

Speaker 6 Omar coming.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 6 Oi. Hey.

Speaker 1 Oi.

Speaker 6 I'm Nigel Nigel. Nigel, Nigel.

Speaker 6 This week I'm starting having pints with the lads. Nigel, have a couple couple of pints with the lads.
Go out and grab a couple of pints, right?

Speaker 1 A new beginning.

Speaker 6 I've been watching that show, Industry. Not sure what it's about.
They're always having pints and fucking each other. I love that.
I watched this.

Speaker 1 I watched the season of that, and then I gave up.

Speaker 6 There's a lot of cocks in that show.

Speaker 1 A lot of cocks.

Speaker 6 Cocks left and right. It's like, oh, that guy's got a cock.

Speaker 1 A lot of sex.

Speaker 6 That guy's got a quarter cock.

Speaker 1 A lot of cocaine.

Speaker 6 Crikey.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 So I'm sorry. I forget what I was starting.

Speaker 1 I don't know. I was starting with industry.

Speaker 6 Pikes with the boys.

Speaker 6 Let's all go out and have some pints with the boys. It's going to be a great time, innit?

Speaker 6 This week, my sleep, my sitting team, I'm going to sit Russell Wilson. I think he's shape.

Speaker 6 I think he's probably done in the NFL because Jocelyn Fields just seen him is going to have a hell of a weekend. He's going to have a great game.
His first great game. I like it.

Speaker 6 And then we're not going to see any more of that Russell Wilson all over my TV anymore. And I'm very, very happy about that indeed.

Speaker 6 My sleepers, your pages.

Speaker 1 Don't get rid of your pages. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Bad week to have pages.

Speaker 6 It might blow up on you. Blow up.
Might write, put a hole on your hip.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 oi. Oi.
Oi.

Speaker 1 Hello. Hello, chaps.
My name is Oliver Butterscotch.

Speaker 6 Hello, OB.

Speaker 1 My stardom is Mu Dang the Hippo. Mu Dang.
What are you doing here? I fucking love that fucking baby hippo. I just want to boop it and fucking love it and squeeze it all day.

Speaker 7 Oh, hippo's very dangerous.

Speaker 1 Not this one. Mu Dang's a pygmy hippo.
He's a little baby. I think she fucking eats a baby if she's a little baby and all she does is run around and do crazy cheap Mu Dang shit.

Speaker 6 We should have her on the podcast.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Go buy a Mu Dang shirt. It's stored off AustillSports.com right now.
Mu Dang Supremacy.

Speaker 1 Great hippo. My cinem is the Colts defense.
Caleb Williams is going to have three touchdowns. Oi.

Speaker 1 Three of them. Free.

Speaker 6 Have you lost your mind?

Speaker 1 Three touchdowns. I said it.
For the Colts defense? Free.

Speaker 1 That's very mean.

Speaker 1 I don't like what you said there, Pippin. I'll just try to clarify it's very mean indeed my sleepers nannies.
Did you see the viral nanny? She's hot with viral nanny. There was a viral viral nanny.

Speaker 1 She's real hot. What are you talking about? The Columbian viral nanny.
She's hot as hot hot.

Speaker 1 In all due respect, she's viral.

Speaker 6 My mate, Hugh Grant, absolutely loved his nanny.

Speaker 1 Look at this nanny. So there's there was a

Speaker 1 there was like a prompt being like

Speaker 1 Like someone was like, oh yeah, my my kid learned Spanish because she was with my nanny so much. And then this TikTok went viral of this Colombian nanny, and everyone's like,

Speaker 1 this is the most trusting wife ever. Yeah, I do.
She's attractive.

Speaker 6 That's very good.

Speaker 1 She's gone very viral.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Shout out that nanny. Okay.

Speaker 6 I would learn leche immediately.

Speaker 1 Let's go to our great interview, Spice Adams, in studio. PFD, you got a quick

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Speaker 6 And now here's Spice Adams.

Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on recurring guests.

Speaker 1 It's been too long. Yeah.
It is Spice Adams.

Speaker 3 What's up, man?

Speaker 1 It's great to have you here, Anthony Spice Adams, Bear for Life.

Speaker 3 Indeed.

Speaker 1 Talking some ball.

Speaker 1 I want to talk everything, but let's start with... I guess we got to talk about.

Speaker 3 We don't. Whatever you're about to say.
We don't.

Speaker 1 Well, I was going to say, we got to at least just briefly touch on Panic Meter for the Bears.

Speaker 1 Panic meter?

Speaker 1 People are freaking out. Yeah, it's all right.
So let's do it this. Let's not do a Caleb conversation.
Let me do a bigger conversation.

Speaker 1 Playing in the NFL,

Speaker 1 your team starts the season. At what point is there a, oh, shit, this might not be going the way we think it is? Because I can't be week two.
Week two is way too early, right? Yeah, it is.

Speaker 3 I mean, and you're talking to a guy that's, I went two and 14. Right.
I've been on teams that went two and 14, four and 12, 7-9. So you're talking to a guy that's basically been through it all.

Speaker 3 But week two, nah, man. And we got a win under our belt already.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 I think they're good, man. Defense playing outstanding.
Special teams is really good. We just got to get the offense on the same page at some point.

Speaker 1 So what's the week that you would say

Speaker 1 you can feel like this is what the team is? We know what we are. We maybe have an identity.

Speaker 1 Because that's also the part is like, I feel like the first two weeks, teams are trying to just figure out what their identity is.

Speaker 1 What is the thing they want to lean on and do well?

Speaker 3 I think by the second quarter, you should know. Like, this is the first quarter.

Speaker 1 Oh, this is lovely. This old love, right? Yeah.
Hey, bro.

Speaker 3 That's that was always the formula, bro. Like, that's all we know.
And, you know, I think by the second quarter, man, you should know the type of team you got.

Speaker 3 You should know if you're a running team, if you're a play-action team, or if you're on defense and you're a defense that stopped the run, you're a defense that gets a lot of takeaways.

Speaker 3 Like, you should know that by the second quarter.

Speaker 6 so that's weeks five through eight five through eight yeah so in other words the week the season used to be broken down was a 16 game season yeah the first four games that was the first quarter of the season and then halfway through the second quarter you got to know who you are now if you're on one of those teams where you have a great defense and a not so great offense yeah it's frustrating bro it's frustrating to watch too because they always bring up the stat it's always 21 points i think it's like dude if we just averaged 21 points here's how many wins we would have had imagine a team going on a 15-play drive and you stop them and you get a takeaway and you're going off to the sideline and everybody's shaking their hands like, hey, man, good job.

Speaker 3 And quarterback or somebody, whoever, go out there, throw an interception or fumble the ball, knot a defense right back out.

Speaker 3 Like, dude, we were just out there for 15 plays, man, and we stopped a high-powered offense. Now we got to like get 25 seconds of rest, and now we back out there.
Yeah. That junk is frustrating, bro.

Speaker 1 The craziest thing that I think maybe

Speaker 1 we've been lucky enough to be around a lot of NFL players, and you learn it over time, but like fans are sitting on the couch, they don't fully realize

Speaker 1 all we can base off is like you sports and like, oh, yeah, you're best friends, you play with them, right?

Speaker 1 In an NFL locker room, I feel like it is a very clear divide, offense and defense. And you don't really, because you're not in meetings with them.

Speaker 1 You're not really, you might have a friend or two on the other side, but like for the most part, you're sticking with your unit and your guys.

Speaker 1 And that's where some of the friction can happen if one side isn't pulling. Is that a fair assessment?

Speaker 3 I don't know, man, because I'm coming from

Speaker 1 a locker room where we were all together.

Speaker 3 I understand what you're saying. Like when we break up, the defensive line go in the defensive line room, linebackers going in their room, tight ends going in their room.

Speaker 3 But when we all get together in that locker room, dude, we were playing dodgeball.

Speaker 3 We were playing basketball like we made up all kind of games in a locker room so it never really felt like you know we were all like individualized yeah i mean like we were playing with the the o-linemen and stuff like that and we battle all the time so the fact that we were friends and we would go out to dinner and things like that like i think the bears were just different like our whole like atmosphere in that locker room was was crazy man it was it was a great thing to be a part of bro i i can't even front but you were also you're also different because you're friends with everyone yeah man.

Speaker 1 You're one of those guys that I feel like. I'm an only child.
Really?

Speaker 3 You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm kicking with everybody, man. I've always been like that.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 That the Niners team, you also had Larry Allen on the offensive side, right?

Speaker 6 So you didn't want to say anything bad because Larry Allen just whooped your ass.

Speaker 3 That's the legalized killer right there. He's a psycho, right? All right, rest his soul, man.

Speaker 3 Dude, like, I've never got into my stance and was just like, whatever I'm thinking is just not going to work. Like, just being deflated as soon as you get in your stance.

Speaker 3 I've never done that as many times as it was lining up against him in practice. And every time, you know, somebody wanted to go up against him, they'd be like, ah, man, take this rep for me, man.

Speaker 3 My leg.

Speaker 1 Go stretch my leg real quick, man.

Speaker 3 And I'll never forget this. This is why my back feels like how it do right now.
It would slip out of place.

Speaker 3 My back would slip out of place every time I went up against Larry Allen. And we would do the Oklahoma drill.

Speaker 3 Frank Gore would be the running back, and then it'd be Larry, and then I'm on the other side of Larry. But we're in a 3-4.

Speaker 3 So I'm in a true zero. So I'm not like on an edge or anything.
Like I'm head up, and I got to back up off the ball because I have to mirror wherever they go. So I'm in a true 3-4.

Speaker 3 So if he steps to his left, I got to step to my right. If he steps to his right, I got to step to my left.
So I'm just head up with Larry every practice.

Speaker 3 And every time I'm just like, low man wins, this is what I'm telling myself in my head. And I'm just like, it doesn't matter with Larry, dude, because he is like a tank, bro.

Speaker 3 If he wants to pancake you, he's going to pancake you. If he wants to take you somewhere, he's just going to take you somewhere.
So I would just, I would get in my stance and I would just.

Speaker 3 like here and then frank could choose this gap or he could choose this gap either one of these a gaps and i'm not going to reach out to try to tackle him i'm just here yeah so frank would just just, it was just basically jog drill for Frank.

Speaker 3 Because I'm not, if you reach your hand out, that's just saying dump me.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 That's saying Larry Allen, dump me and put all 400 pounds of yourself on.

Speaker 1 Or Frank just takes your arm off.

Speaker 3 Yeah, well, Frank was going to do that anyway because that's just how Frank runs.

Speaker 3 But Larry Allen, bro, was like straight hand called him. He's a legalized killer, bro.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 Maybe the strongest player to ever play in the NFL, right?

Speaker 3 Dude, so I seen him in a weight room. He has five plates on with chains hanging off of it, like big, thick chains.
Like you can hear it.

Speaker 3 That's how you know Larry was in it. He's in there by himself.
He's, he got it on a bench and he likes to walk on the incline. So he's walking on the incline.

Speaker 3 And so I come in there and he starts to get on the bench. I say, you need a spot.
So the five plates that he has on there and the chains, he's just repping it as he's looking at me.

Speaker 3 So I'm like, all right, man, good talk, man. See you tomorrow.
So I just leave.

Speaker 3 That dude was just

Speaker 3 unbelievably strong.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Do you think? So, talking about the Oklahoma drill, I don't think they even do it anymore, especially, you know, like training camps are different, preseason different.

Speaker 1 Do you can you see it when you're watching the game?

Speaker 1 Like, oh, yeah, this doesn't, especially early in the season, like, this doesn't look like what it should look like because these guys just haven't been playing together.

Speaker 3 I don't know, man. It's just, it still looked like football to me, but you know, we were the guinea pigs, man.

Speaker 1 I mean, we full pads to a day, every day.

Speaker 3 We were in full pass so much when you erase it off the grease board, you can still see it. You can still see the words full pass on it.

Speaker 3 Like, it is crazy the amount of

Speaker 3 practicing we did in past, bro. And, like, now they got all the rules and the hours that you can and can't do it, and all of that.
So, it's like, now you want to get smart.

Speaker 3 Now, you want to protect our brains. Yeah.

Speaker 3 We had to go through the ringer for years man yeah two days three days sometimes for some coaches it was like

Speaker 6 the more you suffer the better you'll be i don't i don't always subscribe to that like the old school nfl coach mentality and i mean i'm just drawn back to my high school experience but it seems like the coaches that you you had that would be like the strictest the ones that wanted to just beat the shit out of you those ended up not always being the best head coaches

Speaker 1 I don't know. Sometimes it's hit or miss.

Speaker 3 You know, we had a legendary coach by the name of Coach James Reynolds at my high school, Martin Luther King in Detroit, Michigan, man.

Speaker 3 And we ran 45 and 46 counter where I was pulling every dog on play. And we just like, bruh,

Speaker 1 how many times are we going to run this play?

Speaker 3 And I would be pulling like...

Speaker 3 every play, bro.

Speaker 3 But the amount of running that we did at my high school,

Speaker 3 it got me prepared to go to Penn State. Because I was like, dang, practice is over with?

Speaker 3 Because that's all we did was run, man. I was like, dog.

Speaker 3 But it paid off for me, man. Because by the time I got to college, I was like, oh, all right, this is straight.

Speaker 1 It's not bad. How did your recruiting go? Did you not? Did you get recruited by Michigan and Michigan? I did.

Speaker 3 It was kind of late.

Speaker 3 Well, what happened was there was an upper classman that was getting recruited by Penn State. He said, man, why don't you come out? First of all, I've never played football before.

Speaker 3 Like, I didn't play Little League or nothing. Like, I was too big.
I've been this same size and height since I was 12. So, I was like 290 when I was in the world.

Speaker 3 And you look good right now, by the way.

Speaker 1 I appreciate it.

Speaker 3 Right now, I'm at middle school weight.

Speaker 1 This is sixth grade.

Speaker 1 Sixth grade.

Speaker 3 270, 265, that's sixth grade. That's insane.

Speaker 1 So they wouldn't let you play football.

Speaker 3 Yeah, because you got to be like 150 or 140 something like that.

Speaker 1 I'm sixth grade. Way over there.
You're sixth grade, Spice Adams, right now.

Speaker 3 So I'm like, I'm 5'11, 290 at 12. So I never played football.
So me,

Speaker 3 what happened? My mom drove me up to my high school.

Speaker 3 You had to take a test to get in the top three schools in Detroit, Cass, King, and Renaissance. And I went to King.
And

Speaker 3 so upon my mom knowing that I passed this test to get to the school, she was like, all right, cool. Now you're about to play football.

Speaker 1 And I'm like, my,

Speaker 3 I don't want to play football. Like, I'm from Bad Boys, Detroit, baby.
I'll play basketball. Yeah.
We in the street. We hooping.
Hey, here come a car, man.

Speaker 3 All right, it's back on. Car gone.
Like, we hooping. So my mom take me up there and I play.

Speaker 3 Long story short, I love it. Let's go again.

Speaker 1 How quickly was it like, oh, shit, he can play?

Speaker 3 I don't know. Because they told me to line up at guard, and I was like, I promise, right-hand the guy.

Speaker 1 I said, Point guard or shooting guard.

Speaker 1 They was like, get this big dude out of here, man.

Speaker 3 Like, seriously, dog. Like, so I had no idea what I was doing, but I was very coachable.
So I didn't know. Apparently, I was doing good because

Speaker 3 they wanted to move me up to varsity. So I was like, dang, I must be

Speaker 1 supposed to do. Yeah.
Wow.

Speaker 3 So the last, I think like the last three games or something like that, they have moved me up, but I didn't get no burn. So my sophomore year, I'm like, dog, I'm starting.

Speaker 3 So I think the upperclassman, he saw this and he saw something in me. He was like, man, why don't you come to this Penn State camp with me?

Speaker 3 So I'm like, dang, like, like, I never played football before. And I got this upper classman who's getting recruited by Penn State.
He asked me to go to the camp with him. I'm like, Ma, can I go?

Speaker 3 It's $280. And she's like, oh, my.
So my mom is, she's looking in the couch.

Speaker 3 She's scraping up all. And I didn't notice until my 40s.
My mom was like, you know, your uncle paid for that.

Speaker 1 Oh, wow.

Speaker 3 I had no idea. Like, this whole time.

Speaker 3 One of my uncles ended up giving my mom the money. But I ended up going to the camp.
And when I went to that camp, they offered me at the camp.

Speaker 1 As a sophomore

Speaker 1 who had just started playing football.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I was like, all I knew.

Speaker 1 That's just natural talent.

Speaker 3 I'm from Detroit, bro. So it's people working at the big three.
I've seen people with broke legs going to work. Like, all I knew was work.
So when we went to the camp, I'm sprinting to every drill.

Speaker 3 I'm staying after a practice. Like, hey, can we work some more stuff? Whatever.
Because all this stuff is new to me. I'm trying to get it down.

Speaker 3 So by the time I go back to Detroit, I was like, people can be like, oh man, like whatever camp you went to, like, I can tell whatever. Like, I'm taking notes.
Like, I got like a little notebook.

Speaker 3 I'm writing stuff down.

Speaker 3 And before long, they was like, hey, you want to come to school here? They was like, you want to meet Joe? And I was like, I didn't know who Joe Paterno was.

Speaker 3 I was like, all right, let's meet him, whoever this Joe is. Like, I got no idea, man.
And,

Speaker 3 you know, ever since then, bro, it was just like, I love the game, bro. And I love playing Nose Guard.
Like, I love everything that everybody hates. Like, I love like preseason.

Speaker 3 I love how hot it is, how miserable it is. And that's what I'm learning about myself.
Yeah. Like, I like to be miserable.
Pushing yourself.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 I feel like if I don't go through something, then I'm not even doing anything.

Speaker 1 So, so Michigan and Michigan State kind of rised up late?

Speaker 3 Yeah, so once they saw I was getting recruited by Penn State, then they started recruiting me. Then Nick Saban came up to the school and stuff.

Speaker 1 Oh, wow, it's Nick Saban. Yeah, he was in Washington.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 3 so was there any choice or were you just like no penn state was the first one who saw me yeah like once and then i wanted to get away from the state of michigan you know what i mean like i didn't want to get homesick and i could just drive 45 minutes and be back at the crib i was like nah so going out to penn state it was different man it was like mountains there it was like squirrels coming up to you.

Speaker 3 It was like happy valley.

Speaker 3 Like it's really happy valley. You know what I mean? Like I'm used to, if a squirrel see you in Detroit, he's out of there.
Like squirrels coming up to you, like,

Speaker 1 like I'm Snow White or something like that, bro.

Speaker 3 It's crazy.

Speaker 3 But it took me, it took me like two years to even speak to people. Because in Detroit, you can't just walk up on somebody and be like, what's up? Right.

Speaker 1 Hey, what's up? Like, what do you mean? What's up?

Speaker 3 Like, that's a fight. So when people were talking to me at Penn State, I was just like.
Who is this dude? Like, it took me about two years to just say hi back to another person saying hello to me.

Speaker 6 The personality that you were describing is a big asset to have.

Speaker 6 Like no matter what you're doing, if you're on a football team or just like your buddy, if somebody is happiest when everyone's miserable, that's a good person to have because it makes doing the hard stuff so much easier if there's somebody around that's enjoying it and helping you enjoy it more.

Speaker 1 Right?

Speaker 3 Yeah, because that's why, you know, if you take any three technique on any team and tell him you're going to move him a noseguard, they're going to be like, oh, no.

Speaker 3 Like, it's going to be the worst thing in the world that they could ever hear. That's where I relish.
Like, let's go.

Speaker 3 Like, the double teams, like, it's the most thankless position in all of football, playing a true nose guard.

Speaker 1 Eating up space. That's it, bro.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 It pretty much made Albert Haynesborough the line.

Speaker 1 He was quiet quit.

Speaker 6 He kind of retired after they did that to him.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Nose is no joke, man.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So what point at Penn State were you like, oh, shit, I'm going to get drafted? Because this is, I love these stories when someone comes to a sport late and it just, it feels like it happens.

Speaker 1 I mean, it did happen for you in a matter of years.

Speaker 3 It was, it was crazy, man. Like, I had no aspirations of going to the NFL.
I was just like, that'll be a bonus.

Speaker 3 Like, I just wanted to get my piece of paper, be all-American, win national championship and stuff like that. And then, like, if the NFL happened, then yes, like, that's, that's amazing.

Speaker 3 But once I saw this sinner from Purdue, I don't know his name, but the Steelers drafted him in the 2001 draft or two draft or something like that. And I had a monster game against him.

Speaker 3 Like, I mean, I was doing stuff that, you know, you dream about, like, I'm going to do this move and throw this guy out the way.

Speaker 3 Like, I was doing those moves on him because it was a real emotional game for us. Because the game before

Speaker 3 we played Ohio State, and one of my teammates was like, they said he'll never walk again, Adam Tyler Ferro. So the next game after that was Purdue.

Speaker 3 And so I had a monster game and I saw him get drafted. So I was like.

Speaker 3 Chucky Acobe is his name yes yeah I just looked it up for you they drafted him and I was like I know they saw the Penn State game right if they draft him third round I'm like dude I got to go second or first at least

Speaker 3 just off of the game that I had and so I was like man and then my coach pulled me over to the side because I was like

Speaker 3 like just

Speaker 3 you know sad or whatever just how much work it take to be good and balance classes and stuff like that so I was was like feeling sorry for myself not going to class and being late to class and all this stuff.

Speaker 3 So a coach Larry Johnson pulled me over to the side and said, man, you messing with greatness. Like you could really be good, man.
Like you got to start getting your stuff together.

Speaker 3 So I was like, he was like, you know, I had some teams calling me and stuff.

Speaker 1 I was like, what?

Speaker 3 It was some teams from like the national football league that called you about me.

Speaker 3 So I was like, that's all I needed to hear. Yeah.
And then I was like, all right, cool. Like, I just started sacrificing,

Speaker 3 you know, me going out to different parties and stuff like that and hanging out. And I just like, I just wiped myself clean of everything, bro.
And I just, I just started focusing.

Speaker 3 That's all I'm saying. I got drafted in the second round.

Speaker 6 Yeah. And so then after you make it to the NFL, is there a point where, I don't know, what was your attitude like going into that first camp? Was it like, were you aggressive? Were you excited?

Speaker 6 Was there a moment where you got out there on the practice field and you were like, okay, I can actually excel at this. I'm good enough to play in the NFL.

Speaker 3 And once I got drafted? Yeah. Well, I was there with Brian Young, who was the Hall of Famer.
And so I I was just like, I'm just going to do everything he did.

Speaker 3 Everything that he do, I'm going to try to do it. And

Speaker 3 it was so funny because they set me up my first practice.

Speaker 3 So you leave out the door and you like you right out on the field.

Speaker 1 So when that door opened, bewildered just took off, like gone.

Speaker 3 And I'm just like, oh, so I'm trying to keep up with him. And we go through the lap.
We go through like all these individual drills.

Speaker 3 And I'm just like, I can't even catch my breath and he's just like let's go

Speaker 3 and i was like oh my gosh like this is this what it's like and he didn't tell me till like you know i got to my second year or something like that like hey we was just he was just messing with you

Speaker 3 uh yeah it took me a while man and um but I used to make like little splashes here and there. I'd get like a TFL or I'll sniff out a screen or

Speaker 3 coach Jim Moore, who was the defensive coordinator at the time, he would point out plays that I would do where I would fall on the ground, but I would get up and chase down a pass.

Speaker 3 And he was like, this is the type of effort we need or whatever. So I was like, dang, like, all right, like, hey,

Speaker 3 I might got a shot here. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 3 But we were just losing, man. I think that year we had T.O., Garrison Hearst,

Speaker 3 Jeff Garcia. We had Derek Deese.
We had Ron Stone. We had Jeremy Newberry.
Like, we had some dogs, and we still went like seven and nine that year. So I knew how hard it was to win in the league, man.

Speaker 3 And, you know,

Speaker 3 we had Julian Peterson. Like, we had some straight dogs on the defense, man.
And just we went seven and nine, bro.

Speaker 6 I feel like T.O. could still play.
Every time I see him, I'm like, yeah, I can play.

Speaker 3 No question, bro.

Speaker 3 No question, man.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Yeah, he's nice with it.

Speaker 1 When you're watching the league now, are you like, God damn it, they can't do anything with the quarterback? Because it is totally.

Speaker 3 Oh, my God.

Speaker 1 Does it piss you off watching?

Speaker 3 Why should I just put a flag on it? Yeah.

Speaker 3 like some of the stuff it's like the linemen are pushing you into the the quarterback a lot of times man and it's just it's just crazy to watch man and um but it's it's football man like it's like a it's a contact sport like some of this stuff is gonna happen like they trying to do the uh where you tackle the running back and like by the hip or something like that.

Speaker 3 Yeah, like

Speaker 3 you're not, your whole thing is to get him down. Like you're not saying, oh, let me do this illegal tackle so that I could tear his ACL or break his ankle or something like that.

Speaker 3 Like, you're just trying to get the guy down, man. You run at full speed.
You don't have time to gauge, like, oh, is my helmet going to come in contact with his helmet?

Speaker 3 Is he going to duck fast enough for it to not be like a penalty? Like, you don't have time to think. Yeah.
You just go and you just react.

Speaker 3 Like, I think all of this stuff, like, somebody got to step in. And, like, everybody always wants to make it like, let's score points.

Speaker 3 Let's make this this league easy to score points and stuff like that. And nobody really thinking about what the defense got to go through.

Speaker 6 Yeah, there hasn't been a rule change that favors the defense in a very long time.

Speaker 3 The only thing they got is, like, if you are not seeing the block that's coming, I think

Speaker 3 the lineman from the Colts just did something like that. Quentin Nelson did.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he took knocked the dude block off. Yeah.

Speaker 3 And he was just like, hey,

Speaker 1 just stick my hands out here.

Speaker 3 And you can see how easy it is to just knock somebody down because you got pancake.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 And he just, he didn't even do nothing. Yeah, he was like, was that good?

Speaker 1 Give it a thumbs up.

Speaker 3 That was dope. But if that was Olin Kreutz or something,

Speaker 1 it would have been different.

Speaker 3 It would have been a rep for you.

Speaker 6 Yeah, no, you're right about the hip drop tackle.

Speaker 6 To me, it seems like the NFL is, they like to make it seem like they're making steps for player safety. But I've noticed, I've seen like three hip drop tackles, and they're not calling them.

Speaker 6 So they like made the rule to discourage some people from doing it, but they're not actually enforcing the rule.

Speaker 3 Because they see how ridiculous it is. Like, you see these guys, they're not trying to like end people's careers.
They're just trying to get you down, man, and get to the next play. Get off the field.

Speaker 3 So

Speaker 3 I don't agree with that hip tackle stuff, man. But like you say, man, they trying to like...

Speaker 3 Like it's a contact sport, and I get it. Like you're trying to protect people and trying to protect the guys getting injured and stuff like that, but it's a physical sport, man.
It's going to happen.

Speaker 6 Yeah, this might be a dumb question, but at what point did you figure out what kind of face mask you like to use?

Speaker 3 That's actually not a bad question. Not a bad question.

Speaker 1 That's not a bad question.

Speaker 3 I think you just learn from whoever the guy that's on your team that got the most swag.

Speaker 3 You just learn from him, man.

Speaker 1 That's what I do.

Speaker 6 I want to be like you, big bro.

Speaker 3 Like, hey, bro, like, what do you think about this face mask? If they immediately be like, nah, then you'd be like, then you just go to the next one?

Speaker 3 Or you just say, out of the face masks that defense alignment wear, which one is the most

Speaker 3 respect? Like, which one would get the most respect?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 And so I take that one.

Speaker 6 They used to have the ones for the defense alignment that would have the bar down the middle, too.

Speaker 1 I can't think of it. In between your eyes.
I can't.

Speaker 3 Yeah, because I'll be looking like this the whole time. Like, no, nobody, nobody wants to do that.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 How weird is it for you now?

Speaker 1 You played in the NFL, you were a great NFL player, played at Penn State, and now you're just at sometimes just a meme. And it's just a picture where it's like, oh, shit, that's my face.

Speaker 1 Because you do have some of the best, whether it's Cream Biggums or just some of your pictures. You know, obviously the one with you behind the tree, rubbing your hands.
Like, is that so?

Speaker 1 Like, people don't realize, like, oh, that's an NFL player. They just see the meme.
They're like, oh, you're the meme guy.

Speaker 1 Is that weird?

Speaker 3 No, it's just like a testament to to what i'm doing now yeah you know what i mean like i do a lot of stuff on social media and stuff like that and if you want to i guess dig deeper you could find out that i actually played nine years of this

Speaker 3 when i put pictures up of me like action shots of me playing they like oh man this photoshop guy is pretty good right

Speaker 1 because there's a whole like group of people that are like oh yeah you're oh like they probably see you on the street you're like oh you're the guy from behind the tree in the yellow suit yeah

Speaker 3 and it's funny man, because it's just like

Speaker 3 I've got to the point where I got a second career now. You know what I mean? And I'm making something from that.

Speaker 3 And I think the fact that I played nine years in the NFL is kind of just like, it's an afterthought now. You know what I mean? And I just gotta gotta move on.

Speaker 3 Like, I'm a dad now, like a volunteer coach at my son's school. Like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I was talking to you earlier.

Speaker 1 Like, I feel like I'm an Uber driver.

Speaker 3 I'm just taking the kids back and forth to practice and stuff like that. I'm just like a regular dude.

Speaker 1 Is it hard coaching your kids being like, I know football better than everyone, but I have to kind of take a step back here?

Speaker 1 Because I would imagine that'd be frustrating at times where it's like, no, I've played in the NFL. Like, I know what I'm talking about, but I'm not the head coach.

Speaker 3 No, I don't, I don't take myself too serious like that.

Speaker 3 You know, at the end of the day, like, these kids are 15, 16 years old, and you know, they need to hear from other folk, you know, and people who've who've been coaching for as long as I've been playing in the NFL.

Speaker 3 You know what I mean? So

Speaker 3 it doesn't matter how long I played in the NFL. You know, these coaches know what it's like to coach these teenagers longer than I've been playing.

Speaker 3 So I give the coaches the opportunity to coach my son up

Speaker 3 when he gets home and stuff like that. Like,

Speaker 3 I got a video I just put out now where

Speaker 3 he has to take the garbage cans up front. Like, I don't care if you play football, basket, I don't care what you, you taking them cans up front.
I had to do it, you about to do it.

Speaker 3 So, I set these cans up as a center. I had a guard and I had a tackle.
Three waste management cans. And I'm like, this is how you squeeze blocks.
Like, you stop running upfield.

Speaker 3 You can't rush the passer every time. You got to stop the run.
So, this is what you do. You condense the gap.

Speaker 3 So, I'm coaching him, whether it's he taking out the trash, whether he's cutting the grass, whether he's doing the dishes. I'm like, you see how you washing the dish like that? Yeah.

Speaker 3 Imagine doing a club movement coming with a rip. It's the same type of motion, and you got to have your hands tight.

Speaker 1 Football's everywhere.

Speaker 3 I'm always coaching.

Speaker 1 You see football everywhere. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Open the door for your mom. You see, like, you gotta, it's just like ripping the ball out.

Speaker 1 It's the same thing. Like, it's like a peanut punch.
You gotta open the door.

Speaker 3 So I'm always coaching them no matter what.

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Speaker 1 How hyped. I mean, Peanut Punch is legendary, but like,

Speaker 1 would you,

Speaker 1 as a defensive unit, in the back of your head, where you're like, We'll get at least one every game because of peanut. Yes.

Speaker 3 If you watch the film, I know it's crazy. Whenever I see 33, I'm sprinting because I'm like, you ain't never got to worry about me sprinting to the ball if Peanut is around.

Speaker 3 I'm like, and it paid off for me in the Eagles game. And I think Vic might have been a quarterback, but somebody, he hit somebody on a slant.
And sure enough, Peanut punched it out.

Speaker 3 And I got an opportunity to get it. Man, I ain't go nowhere because Alex Brown didn't block

Speaker 1 per usual.

Speaker 1 But it had to have felt like almost a superpower being like, we got a guy back there that he'll get the ball at at least on the ground, you know, once a game.

Speaker 3 Peanut was by far one of the hardest workers I've seen. Like, this dude, the game where Adrian Peterson went crazy on us, but then he went crazier against the Chargers.

Speaker 3 You could see Peanut chasing every time. And Peanut would be on the other side of the field.
Yeah. And he'd be running like he's going to get him.

Speaker 3 And he would be the last line to try to swipe out his legs. So I respected him so much for that.

Speaker 3 And it's just like contagious when you see somebody working that hard you're like man i gotta meet his his level of intensity or at least look like i'm gonna i'm giving everything that i got too because that's that's hard that's a hard job like you come off of trying to like get somebody on a go route like these these dudes is sprinting downfield every play running all kind of routes and then you chase adrian peterson on top of that and then you gotta go block for devin on punt man

Speaker 3 dog like, Peanut had got so much respect for me, man. He's just like an all-time great teammate.
He goes to my son's games.

Speaker 1 Oh, wow.

Speaker 3 Yeah, like, and we want to. He seems like the best dude ever.
Dog, Peanut is one of the best, dude. Yeah.
One of the best teammates I ever had, bro.

Speaker 6 Did you, so you picked up that one fumble that he forced. Did you ever return a fumble? Did you ever get like the legs moving?

Speaker 3 Alex Brown, man. Alex Brown don't ever want to block.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because

Speaker 3 if he see a ball on the field, it's his.

Speaker 3 You know what I'm saying? So while he's still trying to get them. I already got it.

Speaker 1 Alex go block.

Speaker 3 Like, he,

Speaker 3 every one you see me get, Alex didn't get a block.

Speaker 6 So we love watching when big men pick up a ball, when they get to run a little bit. And it looks kind of goofy sometimes if it's one of the bigger guys.

Speaker 6 And then you realize how fast those big guys are running. That's crazy.
And they're running faster than anybody that you're watching the game with.

Speaker 1 The speed.

Speaker 6 Like, what was your 40 time? Was it like around five seconds?

Speaker 3 My best 40 was a 497. True.

Speaker 6 See, that's crazy. It's absurd to think that a big man can run that fast.

Speaker 3 I know. It's like watching.
Have you ever seen a rhinoceros run?

Speaker 1 I have.

Speaker 3 Dude, it's crazy. Like, I've seen it up close and personal.
I was like, God, that rhino is rolling. But I guess that's just like how we look when we run.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 But we be moving. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Moving.

Speaker 6 It's crazy how fast that someone.

Speaker 3 Sean Rodgers used to get interceptions when he was with the Lions, and he would, he got a couple touchdowns on his belt, but he used to be moving.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 Was there ever a guy that

Speaker 6 you just absolutely had his number? Like an offensive lineman that you were like, I am going to feast today?

Speaker 3 Not an offensive lineman, but every time I play Donovan McNabb, I would get a sack.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 3 At least it seemed like it. So

Speaker 3 even if he was with Washington at the time, I was like, I got a sack. I was like, oh, shoot, man.
It must be something about McNabb.

Speaker 3 So whenever we play somebody and McNabb's a quarterback, I was like, hey, I might have a shot.

Speaker 6 So you were one of the first NFL players to like embrace YouTube and embrace like taking you know your media into your own hands.

Speaker 6 And at that point, I think a lot of coaches had no idea what players were doing when it came to like promoting themselves via their own channels.

Speaker 6 Did you were your coaches like completely cool with it all the time? Like Spice is going to make another video?

Speaker 3 No, because when I did that at the time, I was a free agent, you know, so I was like at the point where I was about to retire. I didn't know that, but you know, it it had got to the point where

Speaker 3 I had got released in February.

Speaker 3 And I respect Lovey and everybody for that because they called me and like the defensive coordinator called me, defensive line coach, the linebacker coach, the DB coach, like everybody called me.

Speaker 3 I had so many calls.

Speaker 3 Hey, but sometimes they don't call you at all.

Speaker 3 I know some people who found out on the ESPN bottom ticker that they got released or whatever.

Speaker 1 I remember when Lovey got fired, Jay was on Waddle and Sylvie, and he found out literally like sitting in studio. He's like, I got to go.
That's crazy. Yeah.

Speaker 3 You know what I'm saying? And so I respect them for the fact that, you know, they hit me up or whatever. But once I retired,

Speaker 3 well, in February, when I got released, you go through March. That's when everybody's getting their free agents and stuff like that.
And then you go through April, May, nothing. June, nothing.

Speaker 3 So now you get into camp. And now it's like,

Speaker 3 I can't get into nobody's camp, man. I'm calling around, calling different coaches or whatever.
And I'm just like, dang, dog, like, I'm trying to get my 10th year. You know, I got goals.

Speaker 3 Like, I want to play to, you know,

Speaker 3 to I got 15 seasons. And it's just not like nothing is, nobody is biting, like nothing.
And so then you get to the point where, all right, you had camp.

Speaker 3 Now you got to wait to see if somebody gets hurt. And then they'll call you in or whatever.
But in the meantime, like, you got to stay in shape. So you got to lift weights.

Speaker 3 You got to keep running and stuff like that. You got to make sure you don't get yourself injured, you know.

Speaker 3 Because sometimes you'll go into like, let's just say, the Baltimore Ravens, they call you in, they want you to work out.

Speaker 1 Like, you got to run a 40, yeah, you got to do 225,

Speaker 3 you got to do like all these agility drills.

Speaker 1 I'm like, dog, throw on nine years' worth of tape, right?

Speaker 1 It's right there, you know what you got, dude.

Speaker 3 You got me going up against this 24-year-old that you're going to get league minimum to,

Speaker 3 and now you got me. If I'm in year, I'm going into year 10, so the minimum you can pay me is a million.
So you pay me a million, and you pay this

Speaker 3 guy that's 24-year-old. You pay him $200,000 at the time, whatever the minimum was at the time.
And so you're going to take the 24-year-old every time.

Speaker 1 So why am I coming here running 40s and doing all of this stuff?

Speaker 3 So at that point, I was just like, I'm about to stop chasing this dream. And so around like October, November, I was just like, I just started making the videos.

Speaker 3 And I started getting with guys like Chris Harris,

Speaker 3 one of my teammates who was just like he was on twitter and social media like real heavy so i made this video uh stuff nfl free agents say this is what i was going through at the time and i let him see it i was like dog should i post this he's like yeah man you know we see this all the time in the locker room but nobody else really get a chance to see how funny you are or whatever so i put it out and then it got you know a couple hundred thousand views and i was like hey i might be on to something so then i just started making the youtube videos then i made the retirement video and it just went crazy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it went crazy. I mean, your videos are so funny.
Whenever you do the old guys and you put on the suit, and

Speaker 3 put in the headphones, everybody got an uncle like this.

Speaker 1 When you put in the

Speaker 1 Bluetooth headphone, it's like Superman getting into the phone booth. You just know whatever you're going to put out there is going to be amazing.

Speaker 1 Do you ever do that without video where you just do it just like, hey, I'm just going to live a day as this guy? Oh, yeah.

Speaker 3 You know,

Speaker 3 I remember one time I took my wife to Target

Speaker 3 and I had like this hair dye like on my face and everything. And, you know, I was pushing a shopping cart and stuff like that.
And I was going down the aisle that has all the weight equipment.

Speaker 3 So I'm in there doing curls. I'm like, hey, how you doing, little mama?

Speaker 3 So, yeah, I get it. Like, we at the grocery store.
I got on a full blue powder, dumb and dumber suit.

Speaker 3 And I'm in there, like, hey, make sure you get the croutons for the salad.

Speaker 3 You know, so I'm just, it's just me. Like, sometimes I come home, I'll be in a yellow suit or something like that, and the kids be like, oh, dad is shooting a video.

Speaker 1 Shh, like in class. Like, no, I'm just wearing yellow suits.
Yeah,

Speaker 3 it's just Wednesday.

Speaker 6 I would wear that yellow suit out to like a park and just stand behind trees, rub my hands, and then wait for somebody to just look at you and be like, yeah, it's me. He caught me.

Speaker 1 It's such a great idea.

Speaker 3 I'm in my element. Oh,

Speaker 9 it's a perfect picture.

Speaker 6 So I don't know that I've ever seen the actual video. So I have no context from what the entire video was.
On a retirement video?

Speaker 6 So, so yeah, when you're rubbing your hands behind a tree, what was happening in the video at that moment?

Speaker 3 Oh, so that's a whole nother deal. So

Speaker 3 we were taking family pictures, actually.

Speaker 3 And we had a professional photographer, everything. So I got like the, you know how it is.
I got the jeans with the nice

Speaker 3 cardigan sweater. And, you know, you're taking pictures with your legs crossed and all that.

Speaker 3 But we're in this park or whatever and uh so i get an idea i'm like let me go to the minivan real quick i was like i got like a yellow suit in there let me go in there so i go uh to where we parked at i go get in the minivan you can see the minivan like moving like this because i'm changing the clothes in there and so i come out with the yellow suit on and my wife is like oh my gosh

Speaker 3 like what are you doing now like we are paying money for these pictures so i'm like just, just, just take the pictures, whatever. Like, it'll be cool.

Speaker 3 And I was like, I think it'll be cool if I come around a tree like this, like, I'm looking at you. And, uh, you know, she just take the picture.
So she just started snapping away or whatever.

Speaker 3 And then I just posted it online, you know, just being funny or whatever. And it just, it went crazy.

Speaker 1 It's the perfect picture.

Speaker 3 It went crazy. I've been all in Australia doing commercials for that.
Like, it's crazy. That's a company called Super Loop.
I'm out in Australia in my yellow suit, like, behind you.

Speaker 1 That's what I'm saying. Like the fact you played in the NFL for nine years, and then the yellow suit behind a tree picture is like, oh, yeah, that's him.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 it's just crazy.

Speaker 6 You're also the guy that stinks to shooting basketballs, right?

Speaker 3 Yeah, yeah, yeah. That one is

Speaker 6 an art form, making just a clip with no sound that's like a second and a half long that will make you laugh every time you see it.

Speaker 3 That's where we linked up at.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. Minnesota.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and that literally is like anytime anyone has a bad shooting night, that is auto.

Speaker 1 Here comes Spice.

Speaker 1 I was 412.

Speaker 3 412.

Speaker 1 Big boy. Yeah.

Speaker 3 Like, that was

Speaker 1 a wild time, man.

Speaker 3 That was a wild time, man. But

Speaker 3 it's hard to be that bad.

Speaker 1 You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 3 Like, I got to really work at it to be that bad, dude. Like, it's just unnatural.
Like, because, you know, when I, that's all I did was play basketball coming up, man.

Speaker 3 And I was a big dude, but I could still do everything the little dudes is doing, man.

Speaker 3 But it's bad like it's it's hard to be that bad and to not just be that bad but to be bad in such a funny way like you're missing shots that are the most comedic missed shots yes right yes it's just like they would normally go in like that's the vibe i'm giving where i'm like clapping my hands and i'm like oh just this man like there's something going on with my goggles like you know but it's it's fun dude i did the um the the all-star game the name all-star game celebrity all-star game as as cream biggums and it was fun man it's fun like doing the social media is taking me like all across the world.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the funniest part about Cream Biggums is you are trying to intentionally be bad, but the way you move, anyone who played professional sports, they move different than normal human beings.

Speaker 1 Like, they just are smoother. So, you're moving like a guy.
It's like that guy played somewhere, but then you missed the shot. You're like, wait, maybe he didn't.
Because you could see it.

Speaker 1 You could just see how athletes move. They just move in a silky, smooth way.

Speaker 3 Dude, the whole thing came about. Like,

Speaker 3 I wasn't even going to post it. Like, I was doing these crazy moves in my garage.
And then I think it was, like, July at the time, June. And it was just, like, hot.

Speaker 3 And I didn't have a tripod or nothing. I just put my phone on top of the ladder.
And I was like, I'm going to just do all of these moves. And it just stayed in my phone.
And then one day...

Speaker 3 We were in somewhere. My son was in the junior Olympics or something like that.
And we were off at Ball State.

Speaker 3 and i was falling asleep and the um the warriors were playing um cleveland at the time and uh i was like as i was falling asleep i was like i'm gonna just post this video dude like this is so stupid like i'm gonna post it and i'm gonna slap nba finals on it so i i posted it i fall asleep And then I wake up to my phone going crazy.

Speaker 3 Like it was notifications from like all my friends and everything. Everybody's like, yo, Kevin Hart just posted your video.
So I'm like, man, chill out, bro.

Speaker 3 Like, this man is a full-blown comedian, like a rock star, actor. Like, he didn't post my video.
Maybe he commented on my page, but he didn't post it on his page.

Speaker 3 So I go to his page and it's on there.

Speaker 1 And I'm like, oh, shoot.

Speaker 3 And it's got like, he just posted like 30 minutes ago. He got like 500,000 views on it.
I'm like, God dog. So then when he posted, Snoop Dogg posted.
Then Jamie Fox posted. Then Ludacris posted.

Speaker 3 I'm like, God dog. it's crazy.

Speaker 1 That's amazing.

Speaker 3 So I had to create an account for Cream Biggums. He got like 300,000 followers.
And he was on NBA Live 19. Yeah.
Like he was rated 89, like one higher than Magic Johnson. Like, he's dunking on people.

Speaker 3 Dude, I flew out to Canada, to Vancouver.

Speaker 1 They put me in that big old green suit with the bubbles and stuff on it.

Speaker 3 So I'm out there doing moves and all this stuff, and they put it in the game.

Speaker 1 That's amazing. That's crazy.
That's amazing. All right, I got a couple last questions.

Speaker 1 We started with it, but we're not freaking out about Caleb Williams.

Speaker 3 No, no, it's fine. I think even some of the passes that he missed, you can see, like, they're almost there.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 Like, whereas sometimes you see people throwing skippers or they throwing passes that have no shot. It's like his art.
Like, they're in the area.

Speaker 3 And a lot of them come from him leaving the pocket, which he's kind of wicked when he leaves out the pocket. Like, so, you know, that's.

Speaker 1 And his eyes, the big thing is he got sacked seven times he got hit like another whatever five six seven times that's cool his eyes stayed downfield like it wasn't

Speaker 1 you know hopefully it stays that way but like he's got the confidence still and he got the fuck beat out of him bruh the offensive line need to look at this film bro and correct it and

Speaker 1 is that is that

Speaker 1 is that coaching or or is it is it something that could be fixed because it did feel like yes maybe they aren't the most talented group, but it also is like, it feels like they're not blocking as a team, too.

Speaker 3 Maybe they need to fix it scheme-wise. Yeah.
Because I think

Speaker 3 that's who we have right now. Like, the backups probably can't do any better than that.
You know what I mean? So you got to find ways where you can protect those guys. You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 Whether that's three-step drops or that's quick passing or something like that. Yeah, like where it's like sprint outs or bootlegs or something.

Speaker 3 Like get him on the move, run more screens or something, like run more draws. Like, put

Speaker 3 Herbert and Swift out there at the same time. Like, create some type of mismatches.
Like, just get creative, man, so that you could, you know, hide where you're weak at. Yeah.

Speaker 6 How bad did that suck as a defensive lineman when you got caught on a screen? You're like thinking, oh my God, I got a free run at the quarterback. I'm going to get a sack.
Oh, shit.

Speaker 6 Now I have to run all the way back downfield.

Speaker 3 Not many times because when you're in a position like me, and you can't afford to make mistakes like that because they'll just replace you. So,

Speaker 3 and then I know for a fact, if you're not blocking me, like I'm automatically looking like, so

Speaker 3 that was never like one of my weaknesses. If I was like a three-technique, like you may could get me on a trap or something like that, but a screen that was where is everyone?

Speaker 3 That was my bread and butter, dude.

Speaker 3 Like, I'm not saying like I was like that guy when it came to like people running screens, but

Speaker 3 you couldn't really, there's no way you're not going to block me.

Speaker 3 It's something up.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 6 There's that one moment when

Speaker 6 usually it's like a defensive end and they take those two steps and then they realize what's happening and you can see the look on their face. You're like, oh, no, this is too easy.

Speaker 3 You'll never get Peppers. You'll never get Julius.

Speaker 3 And Ry Marinelli had us so tight. That by the snap of the ball, I already know what you're doing or I already know what you're going to try to do.

Speaker 3 I know from the depth of your steps, I know from the double team.

Speaker 3 I know if it's a true double team, or if it's just one where you're trying to get up to the linebacker, Rod Marinelli is the guru when it comes to defensive line play.

Speaker 3 And once I got under his tutelage, it was like he basically put three years on to my career.

Speaker 6 That's cool. For sure.
You never played for Tom Suley, did you?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 6 Oh, he's your guy. That was after.
I loved him.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
All right. I got one last question question for you, Spice.

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Speaker 1 Bad memory, but the NFC championship. Ah! First of all, you hyping everyone up is an all-time clip.
It is. It is.
Hyping everyone up.

Speaker 1 Actually,

Speaker 1 I just want to say I don't think the defense gets enough credit in that game with Jay getting hurt and

Speaker 1 the Packers. I remember so vividly.
The Packers go down the field.

Speaker 1 You remember. I know, but all right.
So I'm giving you credit here.

Speaker 1 This is going back to credit. Packers go down the field in the first drive, and I was like, oh, fuck.
This is a problem.

Speaker 1 You guys locked it up the rest of the day.

Speaker 1 Because I know that they had a short field and scored another touchdown, and then the BJ Roggy picked six, but you guys were lights out after that first drive.

Speaker 1 And it's like, obviously, the game became about Jay getting hurt and Todd Collins and Kale Bean. But you guys weren't saying Todd Collins.

Speaker 1 You guys were playing lights out. I mean, the second half didn't score.

Speaker 3 I looked myself in the mirror the night before and I was like, don't you be the guy to say I was one game away from the Super Bowl. Don't be that guy.
And here I

Speaker 3 Man.

Speaker 1 I just wanted to give you credit.

Speaker 1 That was

Speaker 3 the first two drives, they scored. Yes, they were in.
And then that was it offensively.

Speaker 1 I was like, this is this, they're going to score a million points today. This is, there's no.

Speaker 3 Yeah, just put up 45, I think, on Atlanta. Yeah.
And that's how we got homefield advantage. Yeah.
But, oh, man, it was one play where Lek had got a pick where I felt like.

Speaker 3 Dude, I gave everything I had, dog. If I would have just got one hand on Aaron Rodgers to like block him,

Speaker 3 he probably wouldn't have tackled that. You know what I'm saying? So I'm like, we had a stunt, me and Tommy Harris, and I got to the point where I took my guy and I just drove him back.

Speaker 3 And I just, I had no more legs. And so after, like, we took Rodgers out of the pocket.
And I'm just, I'm, at this point, I'm running so fast and so hard, like, I'm falling on my face now.

Speaker 3 Like, I just gave everything I got. And the only thing thing that I had left was just this arm swipe right here at Rodgers.

Speaker 3 But if I had a little bit more balance and strength, I could at least just like pushed him where that would have took his angle off of tripping up lack on that interception.

Speaker 3 And that's the thing that I think about the most.

Speaker 1 Shit. Well, sorry for bringing it up.
I wanted to give you credit because I think that that game gets lost in everyone's brain where it's like... Dude.

Speaker 1 Oh, it's we took a bad power offense, man, and they scored 14 points on us, man.

Speaker 3 And that was it. That wins you the game.

Speaker 1 And it was so cold that day.

Speaker 1 If you can hold an offense, a high-power offense, to only 14 points, you should win that game.

Speaker 6 Did you like playing the cold?

Speaker 3 Oh, I love playing. I don't get tired in the cold.
No sleeves?

Speaker 6 Oh, yeah, like a big dog.

Speaker 3 None at all, period.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 3 You just throw the Vaseline on. Tummy out.

Speaker 3 Let's go, man. You clog the pores up.
Let's go.

Speaker 3 The coldest game I played in, it was a January 3rd night game. We played against Green Bay.
It was so cold, if you drunk water and you spit it out, it would turn to icicles before it hit the ground.

Speaker 3 That was by far one of the coldest. I've never went, like,

Speaker 3 the bench was heated, so you'll go and sit on the bench. Like, when they had, like, a TV timeout, then you'll come back out.

Speaker 3 And then they had, like, the Gatorade bottles was filled with, like, chicken noodle soup.

Speaker 1 I love that. Yeah, the bone broth,

Speaker 1 yeah, dog.

Speaker 3 Yeah, you think that big old Gatorade thing is all full of Gatorade is chicken noodle soup.

Speaker 6 Do they have the oxygen on the sidelines for you?

Speaker 3 I ain't need it then. Like, I need it when it's hot.
Yeah. I don't need the oxygen when it's cold out there, man.

Speaker 3 I'm like

Speaker 3 a real live bear, like for real.

Speaker 3 I'm in my element then, man.

Speaker 3 At that time, I was like 310 pounds, 305 pounds.

Speaker 1 I'm like, let's go.

Speaker 3 I was a little wider back then, too.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 All right. Well, Spice, you're the man.

Speaker 1 We'll definitely come back anytime. Oh, man.
I love having you on. So, yeah, it was way too long since the last time.
That must have been like, what, 2018?

Speaker 6 2017, 2018. Yeah, that's crazy.
You do look like you could still play.

Speaker 3 Yeah, man. That's what I'm going for, man.

Speaker 3 I told everybody, man, Ryan, Pose, everybody. I say, man, I can give you 20 plays, bro.
Not in a row.

Speaker 1 Yeah. But I can give you 20.

Speaker 3 Give me some goal lines, some like third and one when you know they're going to run. I can get out there, man, mix it up.

Speaker 1 How fast would you get hurt?

Speaker 3 I don't know, man. I would like to find out.

Speaker 3 Let me find out for myself.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, they do like the Yankees do like Old Timer's Day. Why don't the Bears?

Speaker 3 Yeah, man. I'm not practicing.
Just put me out in the games and then we'll see. Go to

Speaker 3 warm-ups and see how I do, man. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 See if you can stay on. CTD, man.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Game time decision every week.

Speaker 1 All right. Well, thanks so much, Spice.
Appreciate it. Yes, sir.

Speaker 3 Anytime, baby.

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Speaker 1 Okay, let's wrap up the show.

Speaker 1 Firefest of the week, Henry.

Speaker 7 Nothing too crazy.

Speaker 7 Good, I'm happy. I've relapsed, though.
Oh, no. On Game of Thrones.
Oh,

Speaker 1 you've gone back.

Speaker 6 I feel like a lot of people are doing that now. There's been enough time.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I think it was House of the Dragon ended,

Speaker 7 and I just

Speaker 7 started watching Game of Thrones. I saw a TikTok edit, and now my TikTok is just Game of Thrones, and I'm just

Speaker 6 deep. Is it better the second time through?

Speaker 7 It's good, but it's getting to like season five, season six, where things get sad, or things get bad, and then it's going to get sad.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's going to get sad, and then it's going to get bad. Yeah.

Speaker 6 Are you going to watch the final season?

Speaker 1 Yeah, I probably will. Did you watch Red Wedding? Yep.
That was crazy. That was crazy.
That was good. It was nuts.

Speaker 1 So that's it? That's not bad.

Speaker 6 Your Fire Fest is you're watching a show that you like.

Speaker 1 I guess the Fire Fest would be:

Speaker 1 we're in

Speaker 1 the greatest sports time of the year, and Hank's going to watch a show he already watched.

Speaker 7 Oh, it's not like I'm watching it over sports. Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 6 It's not like you don't have two TVs.

Speaker 6 You can watch Game of Thrones and sports.

Speaker 1 I can't wait for October baseball. Max on the stream.
Same.

Speaker 1 I'm so excited. We got to all bet on the Phillies.

Speaker 6 I got to say to my Padres.

Speaker 7 When everyone was just shitting on me yesterday, you know, whatever, I got dunked on by Max. All I could think of was just the Phillies.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 1 The Phills. Yeah.
That's my fault.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 go ahead. I might do it.
We're talking about it now, but

Speaker 1 do your Fire Fest. The playoff baseball is coming, and I can't handle it.

Speaker 7 Winter's coming meme.

Speaker 1 I've been thinking about it all week.

Speaker 6 That's a good tie-in. All right.

Speaker 1 I'm going to look right now.

Speaker 1 I mean, Max, this is your best. Can we get the overalls back? I I got it.
I look ridiculous.

Speaker 1 They sent me a new pair. Yeah.
A new pair of overalls?

Speaker 1 They look so sick. Yeah.

Speaker 7 I love that Dave is in on it, too.

Speaker 1 I don't love that.

Speaker 1 All right. I'm looking it up right now.

Speaker 1 What's the worst case scenario?

Speaker 7 First round loss or World Series loss?

Speaker 7 First round loss.

Speaker 6 You think so? You're going to be so much more upset if it's the World Series again.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 What if the Yankees beat Phillies?

Speaker 7 I just, yeah, that's my only fear is that it's Yankees-Phillies because I actually will have to root for the Phillies.

Speaker 1 That would be awesome.

Speaker 1 Hank, could you imagine you and I on the same squad?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 Then Dave would get so mad at you if the Yankees beat the Phillies. Yeah,

Speaker 7 we can't have that happen. Like, we can't.

Speaker 1 That's worse than that. It's got to be the Orioles.
It's not going to be the Yankees.

Speaker 1 Right?

Speaker 1 Oh, did we just have a draft pick come in?

Speaker 1 What was that? Memes. Memes, what was that? My bad.
When I downloaded all the apps to my phone,

Speaker 1 I just get a thousand notifications from every app. And your notification is the draft pick, is that? Yeah,

Speaker 1 that's kind of cool.

Speaker 6 Yeah, that's a football guy.

Speaker 1 That's very cool.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Max, I'm very excited for the Phillies. I'm very excited for

Speaker 1 just to watch it all.

Speaker 1 All right, I'm doing this right now. So if you did Phillies to win the World Series,

Speaker 1 Eagles to win the Super Bowl,

Speaker 1 and Villanova to win the national championship, and you put

Speaker 1 $100 on it, you'd win $799,000. Title Town.

Speaker 1 I like that. Title Town.
Villanova is going to be horrible this year. Although, I think they might beat Maryland in football this weekend.

Speaker 7 What's just Eagles and Birds?

Speaker 1 Well, Eagles and Birds would just be 11-1 because that's the same team.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 7 I mean, Eagles and Phils, sorry.

Speaker 1 Eagles and Phils would be 100 to win 7,000.

Speaker 1 You know what? Let's do. All right, so Villanova's out.

Speaker 3 Sixers. They're going to be so bad.

Speaker 1 Sixers. Sixers.

Speaker 6 Sixers. 76ers.

Speaker 1 Title Town. Max.
Title Town. 76ers could win it all.
They could. The Sixers are going to be good this year.
They're going to be really good. Hank's going to be fucking rooting up a snore for Yabu.

Speaker 1 Okay, so this might be it.

Speaker 1 If you do Sixers, Eagles, Phillies, $1,000 wins $684,000. Title Town.

Speaker 6 I like that, Max.

Speaker 6 Have a little faith in your boys.

Speaker 1 Have some faith in the boys.

Speaker 6 Siriani's going to figure this thing out.

Speaker 1 We should actually just bet it for all of them to make it to the finals.

Speaker 6 Who's the best coach you got? Who's the best coach in Philly right now?

Speaker 1 Jay Wright. Yeah, it would be Jay Wright.

Speaker 1 Probably Topper, Rob Thompson. I mean, I like Nick Nurse too, honestly.
Yeah. Sirianni's probably third in that.
Well, he's not even the coach. I don't know.

Speaker 3 Jalen Hurts is the fires coach.

Speaker 6 Big Tom's a coach.

Speaker 1 All right, PFT, your Fire Fests.

Speaker 6 So my Fire Fest of the Week has been going on all week. I don't know if it's the fact that I moved into my house

Speaker 6 like a year and a half ago or what it is, but my smoke detectors have been beeping at me all week.

Speaker 1 Gotta change the batteries. I agree.

Speaker 6 Here's where the real fire fest comes in.

Speaker 1 Hardwired? Are they hardwired?

Speaker 7 You don't have a screwdriver?

Speaker 1 You don't know what a battery is?

Speaker 6 They're too tall for me.

Speaker 1 I'll come and do it. They're too tall.
I'll do it.

Speaker 6 I have a stepstool. I'll come over.
And

Speaker 6 it's a normal stepstool where I can probably get up, I don't know, like nine feet. It's got two levels on it.
I don't have a ladder. And so every time I get this beeping sound,

Speaker 6 I bring the stepstool over there every time just to get on my tippy toes. And

Speaker 6 I can touch the thing. And I'm like trying to turn it and unscrew it so I can put the battery in.

Speaker 6 And it's just at the tip of my fingers where it's enough to make me think I can do it if I get up high and if I put on my tallest pair of shoes.

Speaker 7 There's like a dictionary or something you can stand on top of the stepstool.

Speaker 6 But so that's what I've started to do. So I have changed two of them already, and then the third one started beeping on me this morning.

Speaker 6 The previous two, one, I had to pull a desk over to stand on the desk. The desk isn't that sturdy, so I felt like that was bad.
The second one, I went down to the kitchen. I have a bar height chair.

Speaker 6 I brought the kitchen chair up because it's a little bit taller, and I was able to do the second one. But again, I almost fell over on that one.
And then today, the last one started beeping.

Speaker 6 And I'm not sure. I don't feel confident in my my game on either the desk or the step stool so I have to figure out one way to make myself taller without

Speaker 1 I think what you need to do is find like Danny Lance he's tall someone who someone who's in the office I need to but won't be like oh I had this person come over I need to invite a man over to my house a man who won't tell anybody correct came over correct are there any services like that online if I just google yeah tall men yeah tall men to come over to my house must be very discreet

Speaker 1 so you got a problem. That's what I'm looking for.

Speaker 6 You can't reach it. I need somebody to

Speaker 6 help me unscrew this thing.

Speaker 1 That's it.

Speaker 6 I need a man with big hands.

Speaker 1 I could do it for you.

Speaker 6 No, it's okay. I think I'll just be there.

Speaker 1 I won't do the second part, not talk about it.

Speaker 6 I think I'll just let it beep. Okay.
I think that's probably my plan.

Speaker 1 You got to wait till, like, yeah, just wait till you have a party and then have someone just do it who's at the party.

Speaker 6 You'll be like, oh, shit, this just went off. Oh, that's funny.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 help me real quick.

Speaker 6 I might have people over on Saturday to watch some college football. Yeah.
Hype party. And just bring White Boy Rick over.
Yeah.

Speaker 6 And it's just him.

Speaker 1 So I got that.

Speaker 6 My other Fire Fest is, so we're playing, Pup Punk is playing tonight at Buford's on West 6th Street in Austin, which is going to be a great time. I'm very excited about it.
It's a free show.

Speaker 6 If you want to come out, it's going to be a blast. Come party with us afterwards.
But we're playing Freebird, and it's the song that I've been trying to learn for the last, what, four years?

Speaker 6 I said I was going to do it. And now it's nut cutting time.
And I don't know if I'm ready, but I think I might be ready. You got it.

Speaker 1 But you got got it.

Speaker 6 It's so hard. You got it.
It's so hard. You got this.
Freebird. It's Freebird Friday.
You got it. That'll be awesome.
Freebird's making a comeback. Yeah, it is.

Speaker 1 I saw the

Speaker 1 recorder guy.

Speaker 6 The guy playing on the recorder. There was a girl playing on the bagpipes last week.
Fucking love it. Freebird, maybe it never went away.
It was inside of us.

Speaker 1 No, I always play Free Bird. All right, my Firefest.
I need, similar to Max's sleeping thing, I need... AWL's help.

Speaker 1 So I've been trying, we've been talking about getting healthy for our 40th birthday. We are.
I am. I've been lifting like three, four times a week, but I don't have enough time in the day.

Speaker 1 So I've been trying to wake up early. I have started by setting a mental alarm clock.

Speaker 7 Because you already wake up early.

Speaker 1 Well, yeah, I do, but this is like earlier than early. So my real alarm clock is set every morning for 6.50.
My mental alarm clock I set for 6 a.m. I've been setting my mental alarm clock for a month.

Speaker 1 This week was the first time I actually didn't hit the mental snooze and went and worked out at 6 a.m.

Speaker 1 It completely wrecked me i've been so tired since how do people do it how do you get up i just want to i have all i have a gym in my house so it's like i i just have to go downstairs i there's everything's there it's as easy as possible i don't have to leave my house i just need to get up and get out of my bed at 6 a.m and that gives me 50 minutes to work out before i got to take the kids to school how do you do it what do you mean by mental alarm clock i don't want to wake up my wife so i set a mental alarm clock so my eyes i i'm pretty good at like setting a mental alarm clock.

Speaker 1 I will wake up at six o'clock pretty much every morning, but I then hit the mental snooze. Do you check your fan app still? I have a fan.

Speaker 1 I do the OG real thing.

Speaker 7 I was going to say, if you have, I use the fan app, and if you just have that, you can set an alarm on that so it turns off.

Speaker 1 But I don't want to wake up my wife, so I have to, the mental alarm is me just literally opening my eyes at six o'clock. Every night I go to bed, I'm like, open your eyes at six o'clock, and I do it.

Speaker 1 I do it pretty much, I probably do it like six out of seven times a week. It's just then getting

Speaker 1 up

Speaker 1 after my mental alarm goes off.

Speaker 6 So what do you do after your mental alarm goes off?

Speaker 1 I'll just sit in the bed and try putting it on. No, I hit the mental snooze.

Speaker 6 So you just go back to sleep. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Are you putting your phone on the other side of the room?

Speaker 1 Well, it's not

Speaker 1 if it's the mental alarm.

Speaker 6 But like if you're

Speaker 6 not.

Speaker 1 Stop talking about the phones. You keep the phone is not absolutely

Speaker 1 forgetting.

Speaker 1 But Hank, the phone is not. The whole point is I have to be able to wake up without anything going off because then I can sneak out of the room and not wake anyone else.

Speaker 7 Right, but if you're a mental alarm, you wake up and then you want to check your phone, you still have to get up to go check it.

Speaker 1 But I know when my mental alarm goes off, I know it's six o'clock and I just go right back to sleep.

Speaker 6 Can I give you a tip?

Speaker 6 Start chugging water before you go to sleep because that way when you wake up in the morning and your mental alarm goes off, you'll have to wake up, get out of bed, go piss, and then you'll already get the blood moving.

Speaker 6 You'll get piss moving. Your body's awake.

Speaker 1 Yeah, maybe that's a good idea.

Speaker 6 Yeah, I think you need to chug a shitload of water right at bedtime.

Speaker 1 don't understand how people do it how people wake up early and work out i should do it four days a week 5 30 5 30 lifts it's crazy i can't believe that that was once like a daily like a routine in my life i used to do that before work too when i had a real job and you get in this this zone where you just wake up at 5 30 6 o'clock every day yeah i never got used to it i hated it every single time yeah and i can't yeah like it's there's nights when we're here till like one in the morning so it just kind of fucks everything else you take any pre-workout i don't okay so what you could do is just have like a shot of pre-workout right next to my bed.

Speaker 6 Yeah, what you do is you set the alarm.

Speaker 6 You set your mental alarm for 5.30, and then you wake up at 5.30, take the shot of the pre-workout, hit the mental snooze, and then as you're hitting the mental snooze, hit the mental re-wake up at 6 o'clock, and you'll open your eyes at 6, ready to go.

Speaker 6 It's not a bad idea. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Everyone who talks about getting up early, they're like, you just got to get through the first couple of days and it becomes routine. No, there's no way that that...

Speaker 1 There's no way that, like there could be someone who wakes up at 5.30 in the morning to go work out every day and has done it for a year. There's still no way that it's fun.

Speaker 1 No, well, I think some people are just there. There are people who can do that and there are people who can't.
Well, and also there are people who just go to bed at like eight o'clock.

Speaker 1 Like, do you guys have friends? I have a friend who goes to sleep at like 8.30. I don't trust

Speaker 1 that sounds like a loser. If you go to sleep before.

Speaker 1 I agree, but it's insane that he does it. And it's just like, what, I guess, sure.

Speaker 6 8.30 or 9 if you work at a certain type of job, like if you're a teacher, sometimes you have to wake up super early, don't just get less sleep.

Speaker 1 That's what I do. I have to get up at 6:50 every morning, and I still don't go to sleep.

Speaker 1 I also fixed the dog problem. You killed it?

Speaker 1 No, Hank reminded me.

Speaker 1 I just got a sound machine, and I just haven't woken up since. That's the easiest.

Speaker 7 That is the easiest one.

Speaker 1 What about the snoring problem? Also, kind of fix that. How?

Speaker 1 I got, I went, the mouth tape was a problem before because I couldn't.

Speaker 1 Because you ate it? No. Well, I wasn't eating it.
But you did eat it once.

Speaker 1 No, I never ate it.

Speaker 1 But I got

Speaker 1 the breathing strips and the mouth tape because the breathing strips help me breathe through the nose while I'm sleeping.

Speaker 6 You pretty much look like Hannibal Lecter.

Speaker 6 Yeah,

Speaker 1 when you get ready to go to bed, it's like, is he going to play a football game or is he going to going to bed?

Speaker 1 Exactly. No, yes, that is the thing.

Speaker 1 Yesterday I woke up and there was also like a there was almost like a bruise on my nose from the from the strip.

Speaker 1 That's probably because you were trying to eat it.

Speaker 1 I don't know. That's

Speaker 1 you're trying to eat your nose.

Speaker 1 How would I even do that?

Speaker 1 You eat in the middle of your sleep.

Speaker 6 Your body's rejecting the breathe rate strip. That's what it sounds like to me.

Speaker 1 You just want me to continue to have these problems. No, no, no shit.

Speaker 6 I want you to continue to diet with us.

Speaker 1 I'm dieting.

Speaker 6 Oh, so you're going to do. Maybe that's...
Do you think that's what's helped?

Speaker 1 The one we we. I mean, I also had a cheat meal last night.
That's all right. You got to use those meatballs.
Meatballs. You have cheat meals, calories in, calories out.
That's all that matters.

Speaker 1 You have a day otherwise. Yeah.
But then I had like whatever. All right, you're fine.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay. Good show, boys.

Speaker 1 Numbers:

Speaker 7 9.

Speaker 1 11. 3.

Speaker 1 72.

Speaker 6 99, Pug. He's back.

Speaker 1 8.

Speaker 1 Memes in PFT. Have you ever gotten this? No, I'm not going to.

Speaker 6 I don't think eight's in there.

Speaker 1 93.

Speaker 1 93.

Speaker 6 Nines are hot.

Speaker 1 Nines are hot. All right.
See you everyone Sunday. Love you guys.