Blake Griffin, NBA Play In Games, Caps Make The Playoffs, Hot Seat/Cool Throne And The Debut Of Mr Pear

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On today's part of my take, we have our good, good friend, Blake Griffin. He announced his retirement on Tuesday.
We get the first interview with him and it was beautiful. It was perfect.
Yeah. I mean, he's been part of our show for a very long time.
Stay till the end when we kidnap him and ask him the dumbest questions possible.

But really great to catch up with him, talk about his career. We're going to talk about the NBA play-in games.
We're going to talk about PFT's Capitals getting into the playoffs and the NHL playoffs coming up. We've got hot seat, cool throne, and we also have the debut of our turtle, Mr.
Pear. Mr.
Pear makes his first pick for Wednesday night's play-in game. We have him pick the Sixers heat game.
So make sure you're watching for that. Great, great show.
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Today is Wednesday, April 17th and PFT. I got a question for you.
Pop quiz, hot shot. I got an answer for you.
Okay. Is it better to be up three at the end of a game with three seconds left or be up four? This is a tough analytics question that is hotly debated in the math community reggie miller asked this question tonight and i said to myself thank god because i've been saying this for years i'd almost rather be up three points than four points big cat the the best part about reggie miller asking do you want to know why why tell me yeah i i don't know because i've got a brain injury well so the best part about Reggie Miller asking this question, it was the Lakers-Pelicans game, which we'll get to both games, playing games.
But the best part about him asking this question, the situation was the Lakers were up two with 2.7 seconds left. They get fouled, and he says out loud, and you could hear his brain turning on out loud.
He was if you make the first one you're up three do you try to purposely miss the second one because they don't have any timeouts so they have to go coast to coast and then he finished it with saying or do you just make them both go up four and game over like at the end he was like wait shit four points yeah that would be game over he tied it together nicely at the end which was good but for a second i was with you i was like wait and i'm don't get me wrong i'm a big you don't need a three here guy like that's that's my favorite thing to say at the end of a game if there's one second left if there's half a second left if you're down four points i will be the guy that's don't need a three here just remind people that i know ball um but yeah in that instance i, I was just like, what can Reggie even be talking about? But I think he just mixed up having a two versus three point lead and having a three versus four point lead. Yeah, I don't know what he mixed up, but it was the Lakers survive.
They win another play in. They've won three play ins.
They've gotten into the playoffs three times via the-in. We had an all-time, all-time Zion Williamson performance, 40 points.
He was so, so good. It was like everything that you wanted Zion to be, he was it tonight.
And then he got hurt where we don't really know what he got hurt with. He threw his, you know,

towel down,

went to the locker room.

We even had the weird moment where Kevin Harlan and Reggie Miller were like,

we're going to go to Ali LaForce.

She has an update on Zion.

And she's like,

guys,

I don't know shit.

Like,

I don't know what you're talking about.

No one knows.

And then afterwards he left without a limp and didn't talk to reporters.

So we're left just wondering what the hell happened because I think the

Thank you. about no one knows and then afterwards he left uh without a limp and didn't talk to reporters so we're left just wondering what the hell happened because I think the Pelicans win that game if Zion stays in the game they had Brandon Ingram wasn't good he was he he's been coming back from injury he just looked bad and Zion was like I'm putting the whole team on my back and he almost beat the Lakers by himself yeah the entire game was just a microcosm of his entire his entire career, really.
He's like, oh, he's awesome. He's awesome.
He's awesome. Fuck, he's hurt.
That's kind of how it goes. And after the play was over, I was trying to figure out what was wrong.
I was trying to diagnose it via the video. And it was really strange because he does that little drive through the hole, makes the shot, and then he pumps his fist and turns around.
And then after two steps steps then he realizes oh i need to start walking slower and it may be the only thing i could think of and they said they're doing like an mri on his leg is he might have felt whatever pain he was in might be familiar to him like he knows exactly what it is and he knows exactly what it means because he's had it before and he knows how long it's going to take to recover from it because it wasn't like it didn't look to be catastrophic like oh fuck my achilles is torn or uh acl or anything like that it was just like a realization of god damn it this sucks because i know exactly what it is that's hurt and it sucks that it's hurt but i can't do anything about it it sucked it sucked because he was having an incredible incredible performance and we're stuck just being like fuck that was going to be awesome but the lakers do advance should we start the narrative is this lakers team dangerous pft they now play the nuggets um i like you know this is going to be the story that's everyone talking about like look at the lakers i think they finished the season like 24 and 10 so they they've played well. A lot of guys who won a bubble championship, which we half count,

except for Caruso.

That's a full championship for him.

Are we going to do the watch out for the Lakers?

They could beat the Nuggets.

Oh, Hank, you're in.

Well, Hank, are you in that they're going to beat the Nuggets?

Are you in that we have to talk them out?

Hank's muted. Probably for the best.
Yeah, Hank, are you in that they're going to beat the Nuggets? Are you in that we have to talk them out? Hank's muted. Probably for the best.
Yeah. Hank is muted.
I think they could beat the Nuggets. I think they could beat the Nuggets.
Do you think they could beat the Nuggets? Yeah. How? Yeah.
Championship experience, you know. Championship DNA.
They've got the DNA.

One of the greatest players of all time, Anthony Davis,

all-stars, all NBA players.

Why not?

Yeah.

Well, I don't think they're nearly as good as the Nuggets is the thing.

Anthony Davis does look healthy.

I think that's how we started last year's playoffs.

Anthony Davis looks really, really healthy right now.

And he's an absolute beast when he is healthy.

Let me ask you a question, Hank. uh this series how many games is this series it's a seven game series it's a seven game series okay so if it were a 15 game series the i would give you the lakers i would say because the lakers have beaten the nuggets four times over the last 15 times they've played so i would give you that if they played 15 games and all the Lakers, I would say, because the Lakers have beaten the Nuggets four times over the last 15 times they've played.

So I would give you that.

If they played 15 games and all the Lakers had to do was get to four,

I would say, yes, that can happen.

Best of 15, but it's only four when it's the Lakers.

15 times in the last three years they've played, and the Lakers have won four times.

I think everyone's going to talk themselves into it. I mean, the Lakers are not – I don't think the Nuggets wanted to see the Lakers have won four times.
I just, I think we're going to, everyone's going to talk themselves into it. And I mean, the Lakers are not, I don't think the Nuggets wanted to see the Lakers.
I would guess that because they obviously, I mean, anytime you have to play LeBron in the playoffs, it's scary. But last year they did sweep them.
People said it was the closest sweep that's ever happened in a seven game series. I think the Nuggets are better.
Yeah. I mean, we all remember game four, one of the all-time best games in the history of the NBA that nobody will remember.
Yeah. Hank, what are you doing to yourself right now? Because PFT and I are putting ourselves in a very open situation where if the Lakers somehow win this series, this will look terrible for us.
But it also would mean LeBron beat the champs and they would be like, okay, now who else do they have? They could get to the finals. So what are you doing? I just want someone to beat the Nuggets.
Taking seven games, drag out, battle, really just really against us early.. Here's the thing.
I think we might have to just go along with Hank because Hank, he knows ball. I think Hank's right and the Lakers can do it.
And the Lakers can actually go all the way to the NBA Finals. And I think the Lakers could beat the Celtics in the NBA Finals.
And LeBron could get a title over Hank. That would be awesome.
That would be scenes. The start of the championship DVD was Zion throwing the towel and going and huffing and puffing into the locker room.
That was the start of the Celtics championship DVD? Yeah, the Lakers Western Conference Finals DVD. Yeah.
Champion DVD. Well, so the Pelicans, I don't know what is going to happen with Zion, if he's going to play on Friday, I don't, I mean, without a limp, I would say no.
Cause it looked like he was like, he looked like he had a non-contact injury and he knew right away that he was fucked. Yeah.
You know, that look that he had, it was, it was either he knew immediately it was really, really bad, or he knew immediately because he's had that same injury before and he re-aggravated it. Right.
So they're going to play, the Pelicans are going to play the Kings, light the beam. The Kings take down the Warriors.
Is this the end? Is this the end for the Warriors? Because they went out pretty sad. It felt like they never, they got like what, to four points at halftime? It's like, okay, here come the Warriors.
They were never like Steph was never able to get open shots. Clay is washed.
I so stupidly was like, what if Clay just has a throwback game? Cause I love, I love Clay, but he's, he's washed. And now you have like a bunch of questions of, are the Warriors, is that it? Is that like, is this finally it? It was probably it last year last year but is this finally it i think we said last year that that should have been it at the end of their run they needed to do something like drastic to to retool themselves but uh they there's no more frustrating team to watch when they stink than the warriors when they're good it looks like they broke basketball and when they stink it looks like basketball like basketball broke them.
They were, they're just so frustrated.

You just want to like yell at the TV, like quit being pussies.

You just want to scream at them.

Make some shots.

They just couldn't make any shots.

And they're, you know, they're,

they're trusting on guys that are not playing in the right positions with

Trace Jackson Davis.

And, you know, there was a moment where, uh,

Moses Moody hit a couple threes and you're like, Oh, here come the Warriors, and it's just, no. It's over.
I'm actually disappointed that Draymond didn't get ejected. That felt like an ejection game.
I was very upset about that. I think he wanted to go.
Yeah. What does this mean for Chris Paul's legacy? Oh, another playoff loss.
We should probably get Rosillo on. Yeah, we need to talk about this.
Chris Paul blew it. I'm going to text him right now, and we'll just see if he can respond in quick enough time.
Yeah, just a comment really is all that we need. Actually, Hank, you text him because he doesn't respond to your text.
So just ask, is this another Chris Paul playoff loss? Just ask him that. Just that? Yeah, and then maybe ask if you can get the video for your brother's bachelor party yeah actually know what big cat this is you should FaceTime him because he FaceTimed you when the Badgers lost this is his equivalent of the Badgers losing yeah yeah although I mean Chris Paul this doesn't he he was not, he was a non-factor.
I have a question for you, PFT. So the Kings,

uh, Yeah. Although, I mean, Chris Paul, this doesn't.
He was not. He was a non-factor.
I have a question for you, PFT. So the Kings, they kind of like sputtered down the stretch.
This is a big win for them. Obviously, the Warriors have been there.
They've had some great wars with them in the last few years. Sabonis is so much fun to watch.
Sabonis, does he just had a black eye for five years? I feel like he's had a black eye constantly. I think he, he like does the, the smoky eye to himself before every game for intimidation reasons.
Yeah. But he looks, he looks intimidating.
You don't want to fuck with a guy like that. It's like, you see a guy with a black guy, you see a guy with a missing tooth, or you see a guy with cauliflower ear, you steer clear.
Is this another Chris Paul loss? He's asking us for the playoff loss. Yeah.
Asking for comment. Doesn't count as the playoffs, right? Isn't playing.
Oh, true. Shit.
So how should we phrase this? Well, let's let Ryan arrive at that conclusion on't want to i don't want to give him excuses ahead of time the fact that hanks sending this text is great uh and also shout out keegan murray iowa basketball is is on fire right now um we talk a little bit about the wmba draft during hot seat cool throne he was awesome he had everything so yeah maybe let's light the beam let's just keep lighting the beam i do i i want the kings to be good yeah yeah i do too i i don't think that they have a chance

against the thunder but i want them to be good um i also would like them to maybe lengthen their

nets because i just i can't stand watching a game this is a very sad old guy take but whenever the

nets are really short it just bothers me yeah i want to see swishes i want to see cool swishes

I want to say that. This is a very sad old guy take, but whenever the nets are really short, it just bothers me.

I want to see swishes.

I want to see cool swishes.

I want to see the net really swish.

I would like them to do the in-season tournament with chain nets

so you get the swish sound with the chain playground sound.

I would like that as well.

All right, so you send the tax tank.

There's no way he's going to respond in time.

No. Yeah.
I mean, his last response to me was, yeah, no problem. He's probably going to vote.
Yeah. We should have Hank just be the designated Rosillo texter because you know that he's just not going to respond.
And we could be like, well, chuck it up to it being Hank. PFT, other things we got to talk about.
Oh, they're lighting the beam right now. It's a bonus with his black eyes lighting the beam.
They fucking killed the Warriors. They killed the Warriors.
There's the beam. It's lit.
The beam is very cool. PFT, congratulations to your Capitals.
Clinching the A spot in the NHL playoffs, Stanley Cup playoffs. That was a crazy, like, 10 minutes of hockey.
I was actually watching the Red Wings game. I was kind of wanting Patrick Kane to get in the playoffs.
The Red Wings scored with three seconds left. And then the Flyers, knowing that they needed to win in regulation, pulled their goalie and then lost in regulation.
And people are big mad at you, PFT, in the Capitals. That's that's i understand why they're mad they they should be mad at torts they should be mad at the coach the flyers because what happened was you're right the flyers needed to win in regulation to have any shot at it and nobody told torts that the red wings had scored to tie it up at the end of regulation so torts was operating under the assumption that they could still get into the playoffs with a regular, regular time win.
So they pulled their goalie and nobody told them that the goal happened until after the Capitals went down and scored, which is about a minute and a half of real time. Like after the goal happened in the Detroit game to win the Capitals scored, it was about one minute, 20 seconds.
And in that time, nobody let Torts know, okay, you can put the goalie back out there. But I don't know if that was the plan along to have some guy on the bench with like an iPad checking the scores every 30 seconds and keeping him informed.
But for whatever reason, he didn't do it. It ended up working out pretty good for me.
So I'm not going to complain. But this Caps team is the weirdest fucking team ever.
Nobody thought they were going to make the playoffs. Their goal differential is unbelievably bad.
Last time I checked, I don't know what it is now. I think it was like 36.
They ended up minus 36 on the season, I think, in goal differential. The last team to make the playoffs with a goal differential of minus 30 or worse was the 1994-1995 San Jose Sharks.
Whoa. So yeah, we've had rooting for you guys because there's nothing better than when a team makes the playoffs and everyone's like, no one wanted to see this.
Fuck this. This is bullshit.
That's the team you got to worry about because everyone was so mad and was like, fuck this. The Capitals are boring.
They're going to get killed by the Rangers.

I might have to bet them against the Rangers.

Fuck it.

Well, the good news is the Caps made the playoffs.

Bad news is they have to play the Rangers who won the President's Trophy,

which is basically impossible to lose in the playoffs if you're that good of a team that you win the President's Trophy.

So there's no chance that we can beat the Rangers.

But I'm just glad to be there.

I was very happy to be there.

We got a hot goalie, too.

Don't forget about that.

Our goalie's standing on his head.

I think the last... there's like no chance that we can beat the Rangers, but I'm just glad to be there.
It's very happy to be there.

We got a hot goalie too.

Don't forget about that.

Our goalie standing on his head. I think the last two months he might be,

I think he's first in goals or goals against average.

He's got a bunch of shutouts.

He's playing really,

really well.

The thing about the caps is they,

they get the shit kicked out of them all the time.

That's why it's been such a frustrating season.

They've lost 13 games by four or more goals this year,

13 games,

but they're tied.

I think they're top five for most one goal wins this season.

So they,

they can win the close one.

So,

I mean,

really all I wanted,

I said this to you guys before we left for the day is all my teams stink

right now.

I just,

I want to have one team that I can root for in a playoff situation and the capitals are that team and actually tip the cap to the capitals because every everything else in dc by and large has sucked for the last like 20 25 years the the gnats had that one world series run which was incredible but the capitals are just they're always there for me bitch. I love them.
You got a response. Oh, you got a response.
That's mean. He can't actually care about Chris Paul at this point.
He's playing off the bench. That wasn't a Chris Paul loss.
I'm going to say right now, that wasn't a Chris Paul loss. That was a Klay Thompson loss.
I'm excited for you. I think it's partially Chris Paul too.
Yeah, partially. I'm excited for you, PFT, about the Capitals.
I really do. I do love whenever a team makes the playoffs and it's like you, like everyone, that was all I saw.
Everyone's like, fuck this. We'd rather see this team or that team.
Nah, Capitals got in and they did it in the last like three seconds or two minutes of the season. Yeah, I asked Vikings fans how I can prepare to respond to all the haters out there that will be like, but the goal differential is so bad.
You know, they had their team that made the playoffs, not this past season, but two seasons ago and uh the majority of responses were just like it'll be fine just try not to lose to a team from new york and humiliating fashion in the first round so i'm gonna try to take that to heart and then uh they also told me just like any anytime somebody says the capital shouldn't be in the playoffs just tell them to suck my dick so that's what i'm gonna do um i have also one last advanced analytics i'd like to share with you guys um so i'm gonna read i'm gonna read something and then i'm gonna tell you the advanced analytics behind it so this is from march 26th um about to tune into my first flyers game of the year apologies in advance all the diehards out there at this point The Philadelphia Flyers had 36 wins on the season. This is March 26th.

They finished with 38 wins. They went 2-8 after that tweet, and they missed the playoffs by a point.
They went 2-8, and that was from our very own Max Alain. I can't believe that.
I remember when you said you were going to watch your first Flyers game, and then I just went and looked at the schedule, and it's just L's just everywhere. How did you do that? He was flyered up, Big Cat.
I don't know if you heard the news. L's everywhere.
2-8 to finish the season after Max decided to tune in.

That's actually one point.

What?

One single point.

I think they lost.

I think they ended up losing by,

there was a bunch of tiebreakers for the last spot.

But yeah, the Flyers ended up with 87 points.

Capitals ended up with 91.

But that was also including tonight's game where they lost in regulation. That's – even for you, Max, that's impressive.
I don't give a fuck. It's Sixers.
It's all about the Sixers. But there's definitely a bunch of people from Philly that are listening to this and they're pissed off at you.
What do you say to them? I do apologize to them.

Two and eight.

Also, that was the only game I watched.

And that was all.

You drive by Stuncombe.

Here's my stink.

I'm out of here, guys.

I guess.

I don't know.

I don't think this counts.

I don't care.

I know like two players on the Flyers. If they made the playoffs though, I would have got Fired up.
You would have been in the fucking Flyer zone. Yeah, sorry.
Sorry to Philly. I was going to be really mad at you, Max, if you had beaten the Capitals tonight and you would have gone into your little Flyer zone in the playoffs and then I would just be sitting here sad about everything and no i'm happy i'm very happy that you made it over over me thanks max it means a lot we got i just need one i don't i don't ask for a lot in sports i just i want to i want to have one team that i can put my heart and soul into for at least a week during the playoffs over the course of a calendar year i don't think that's too much to ask ask from the sports gods.
We're just right in the – I mean, I expect the Bulls to maybe win on Wednesday night but then lose to the Heat or the Sixers. And so we're back in the spot where Hank's just sitting with two teams.
Everyone else just – you got in at the last game. I'm going to play in.
Max is going to play in. Trying.
Trying. You've had like a banner year in drafts, though.
That's true. All your draft success this year has been worth one playoff series for sure in terms of enjoyment.
That's true. We also, I completely forgot and we'll get to it later with Mr.
Pear, who's owned by our one and only memes. But we get crazy memes coming up soon with the Islanders because they have been on a historic run to get into the playoffs.
And memes is a fucking psycho with the Islanders. And you know what? He might hate the Rangers more than I do right now.
He does. I got him on my side.
I've got a very powerful force behind me.

Yes, he absolutely does.

Okay, let's kick it to ourselves.

We have Hot Seat Cool Throne.

We have a great Blake Griffin interview.

And then we have Mr. Pear.

Awesome show.

Awesome, awesome show.

Let's kick it back to ourselves in studio.

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Henry, hot seat, cool throne.

Did you file your taxes?

My hot seat is CBS. Oh, okay.
Did they not not file their taxes i don't know about that uh but they did air a live televised concert of billy joel at msg yes and they cut it off with two minutes ago in the middle of piano man but basically before it started the masters ran too long also not great not great ratings for the masters oh really so we didn't like it didn't like it doesn't help that scotty had won by the by 10 or 11 is caitlin clark bad for men's golf i would say so everyone's gearing up they're saving their watching for the wmb draft um so cbs did pay their taxes cbs probably did pay their taxes although you know networks corporations it's, corporations, it's a little, they get a little shady with that stuff. So they cut off after Friday or Saturday.
When is, when is the, uh, the Billy Joel song? When does it take place? What's Saturday? Saturday. It's five o'clock on a Saturday.
Yeah. Nine o'clock on a Saturday.
Yeah. People were pissed.
They're also, there are a lot of commercials. They're re-airing the entire thing.
Damn. Because people are so mad.
Billy Joel lives the best life. He just takes a helicopter from his house.
I think that's court mandated. Yeah, that's true.
He can't fly the helicopter. Can't drive.
He takes a helicopter from his house, goes to MSG, sells it out. 20 minutes, he's home.
Yeah, Glennie Ball is in the front row every time. Yeah.
Great life. It's incredible.
Yeah, I feel like I should have gone to one of those at one point. Yeah, I feel the same way because you go to MSG and you see the big banner.
And Stuart invited me no less than 500 times. I know.
I think he invited me to the one on Sunday. Yeah.
The banner. They have a dedicated banner next to him.
I think it's bigger than the Rangers Stanley Cup banners, actually. All right, so next time we have to go to New York City, let's just say we can't go unless billy joel's playing yep and we'll do that is this he is the best he just has hits after hits after hits you forget all of them yeah top three billy joel songs uh vienna okay um italian restaurant yep that's a good one bottle of red yeah and i will go uh Downeaster Alexa.
Rocket Man. Those are my three.
Rocket Man's a great Billy Joel song. Yep.
Goodbye, Yellow Brook Road. What are your top three? The one they did for Princess Diana I thought was really touching.
Yeah, Candle in the Wind. Yeah, Candle in the Wind is number one.
Number two, I'm going to say The Bitch is Back. Yep.
Bitch is Back rocks.

And then Saturday Night's All Right for Fighting. Yeah.
Saturday, Saturday, Saturday. Billy Joel rocks.
The Dua Lipa song is pretty good, too. Cool.
Okay. Did she do her taxes? What does that have to do with anything? I don't know why you keep bringing up taxes.
My cool throne. You did your taxes, though.
Of course. I'm an American.
That's all it takes? my cool throne is the WNBA

because ratings talk. The ratings came in for the WNBA draft.
Stunning. Stunning.
Stunning numbers. 2.4 million viewers for the WNBA draft.
Last year it was 572,000. The NBA draft did 3.7 million on ABC.
The MLB draft had 744,000. NHL 681,000.
I didn't even know that the MLB draft was televised. Yeah.
Had no idea. MLB Network, they do it in Studio 42 at the baseball field.
Where do you guys took BP? That should be a punishment at some point. Somebody should have to sit and watch the entire MLB draft.
Do you think we could talk mlb gm like i don't know if we know any but like if we if we actively started being like all right what front offices listen to part of my take there's so many rounds i think we could maybe get drafted just they kind of throw away those last picks like they'll draft someone who's playing college football being like maybe maybe if he says yes to us right yeah yeah that would be awesome you're right somebody always takes a pick they use it on like russell wilson yeah quarterback who's playing college football being like, maybe. Maybe if he says yes to us.
Right. Yeah.
That would be awesome. You're right.
Somebody always takes a pick. They use it on like Russell Wilson.
Yeah, quarterback. Who's definitely going to.
Let's get Max drafted. Because he actually has, you could be like, well, we have tape.
I have a baseball reference. We have a baseball reference.
So let's get Max drafted. I don't know who we can do.
Like someone, please, listening who works in some organization, please reach out. Just all we're asking for is 40th.
You know what? We'll even – we'll pay you. We'll give you a signing.
Did it have a rookie wage scale? No, I mean – That could be an issue. Max, what if you got drafted and then you refused to sign? Max just heard the word scale and shook his head.
That's – all right, come on now. I'm getting too many strays.
Come on, guys. Hank started it.
I haven't taken one stray shot at you. And the top golf wasn't even a stray.
That was just an obstacle. How about you being? Well, yeah.
I mean, that was also, I mean, you were getting made fun of so you were just like, oh yeah, let me defy it. A lot of fact or fiction.
I had one camera in one hand and 17 pieces. Well, I mean, you were acting like, you weren't even chewing.
You started to lose and you were just like, Max just won't stop eating. You just turned the vacuum button on.
He's like Kirby? Yeah. They cut the draft in half.
There's only 20 rounds. By 2019, there was 40 rounds.
There were 40 rounds? Oh, no. We might not be able to get Max drafted.
There was like 614 picks last year. Let's get Max drafted.
Speaking of baseball, Larry Lucchino and John Henry are all-time scumbags. What happened, John Henry and Tom Werner are all-time scumbags for not attending Larry Lucchino's funeral.
It was two days after opening day, which they were at. That is crazy.
All-time scumbags. All-time scumbags.
All-time scumbags. Probably sent some nice flowers.
All-time scumbags. Definitely don't pay their taxes.
Lock them up. Yeah.
All-time scumbags. Right, right, right.
We don't want to do the tax. No, lock them up.
Lock them up for what reason? Not paying their taxes. Being all-time scumbags.
Okay, but not for the tax thing. Yeah.
That should be part of it. But not, you can't judge a book by just someone that doesn't pay their taxes.
But I'm not one people um don't stop stop spreading this for me this is a satire podcast the wmba uh draft the the all the rookie wages getting tweeted out and everyone's like what the fuck it's like well this is what caitlin clark might be able to fix she might be able to improve things a little bit like if people watch and then this starts making more money then they get to pay more but it was funny for people to be like oh that you can't even live in new york city on that well her number one she was number one like they got excited because her iowa teammate got drafted later on to the same team what is she making yeah probably like 50 i don't know unrelated i i'm a big indiana fever fan always Yeah, well, unrelated, we should probably get the boys some Chicago Sky season tickets because we're bringing back Bully Ball. What do they play? Wintrust.
Angel Reese, she's really fucking good. Angel Reese and Cardoza.
My friend Ricky O'Donnell threw out a tweet because he covers all Chicago basketball. I think he said that in the last year, the two of them have shot five total three-pointers.
Yeah. Bully ball.
Just rebound. We're going just bully ball.
Everyone's shooting the three. We're just going to fucking pack the paint and just have some beast down there.
Rebounds all day. Do you think I could get a rebound over Cardoso? No.
Yeah, she would dominate me in the paint. Hopefully, I would love to have both of them come in, and we'll have them on the show.
Yeah. We'd love it.
But yeah, the contracts getting tweeted out were tough to look at, but it will get changed. Also, endorsements? I mean, Kaitlin Clark, that's the thing Ravel keeps talking about, how she's taking a pay cut from Iowa, but now she'd get a shoe deal.
I would imagine her shoe deal is going to be $10 million, $15 million. It's going to be massive.
She's going to get a ton of endorsements. And she couldn't do a shoe deal at Iowa because they're a Nike school.
Yeah, she'll make a ton of money. Yeah.
Okay, good job, hot seat, cool, thrown, Hank. Nothing to do with taxes.
Nothing. I don't know why I keep bringing it up other than a tax I just passed.
My hot seat is Hank because he didn't do his taxes. Shut up.
I didn't say it was you. I didn't say it was you, Hank.
It was any Hank. Yet.
Let me finish. Yet.
My hot seat is Trump, who's on trial in New York for a tax issue. Except for that one year, but I would have got money back.
No, my hot seat is Gordon Ramsay. Gordon Ramsay, because his restaurant got taken over.
He had a pub in central London, and it's up for sale for 13 million qu quid which i think is their way of saying dollars okay uh and then six people squatters have taken over the building and they're occupying it and saying we own this place now oh no and so now he can't sell it because you got squatters just living in there who i mean not to get political but the squatting thing is it blows my mind set it up how is that political why can't they just arrest them so squad someone in politics it's someone in politics fault which what's crazy this is in london so i don't know what their law is over there true but um remember back in like 2008 2009 when the housing market crashed there were a ton of people that were just moving into foreclosed homes and putting up these like legal notices they're like the same

people that would go to court and then complain to the judge about it not being the proper type of court because the tassels on the flag weren't right yeah like those they they know like the letter of the law and nowadays there's a bunch of people that are doing it that are taking advantage of like renters rights in new york that are doing but this just squatting has gone back i think back since like the 1800s.

You can't like kick someone out.

It's crazy.

The thing is,

it was. rights in New York that are doing it.
But this just squatting has gone back, I think back since like the 1800s.

You can't like kick someone out.

It's crazy.

The thing is, whenever I see these videos of like a guy who's like, I just started living

in this house and nothing anyone can do.

And nothing happened.

How?

Because I'm like, wait, how?

I don't do it.

Like, what would you do?

You just go home and you can't get it.

Fucking lose my mind.

Yeah.

If somebody was in my house when I went home.

I would be like, dude, you probably don't pay taxes.

Yeah. Yeah, they definitely don mind.
Yeah. If somebody was in my house when I went home.
I would be like, dude, you probably don't pay taxes. Yeah.
Yeah, they definitely don't. Yeah.
I would just. Bad group to be in.
Yeah. You're like, cool.
I guess you're paying rent. I would just charge them rent.
Probably file a mean extension. Yeah.
Mean extension. I'm dealing with some issues right now.
What's the difference between an extension and a mean extension? That's just a one yeah maybe after the date no no no uh my cool throne is the american judicial system so i alluded to it a second ago but the trump trial is starting in manhattan right now and they're doing jury selection for it and in the jury selection one of the questions they're asking the prospective jurors is do you listen to podcasts uh-oh and then they're asking them what podcasts do you listen to so juror number b354 from nomad was in seat number 10 and the podcast question do you listen to podcasts he says yeah if i get bored every once in a while i'll listen to barstool sports yes might be in the trump jury pool later on there was an upper east side resident a native new yorker and investment banker at kpmg lives with his fiancee works at a non-profit uh he's another sports podcast guy he listens to pardon my take yes which got a nice from a reporter that was sitting in the courtroom holy shit we might we might get some some fellas installed on the trump jury right now that rocks yeah they just basically were asking this question for anyone who answers the daily yeah the daily they're like you're out of here yeah you're gone see ya you're gone see ya that's awesome yeah so we might that guy shout out those guys that are in the pool i hope you guys get selected really scary thing to think of anyone who's listening to this right now deciding anyone's fate in a juror yeah will will the former president go to jail well his fate is in the hands of a guy that listens to us pretend to know what we're talking about and just bought a turtle to gamble on sports a guy who basically was like clear my schedule mr pear's about to be unveiled yeah i can't i can make jury this morning. I got to see who he's got in the play-in game.
Oh, I love it. Yeah, so we might have some friends in very high places right now.
Yes, like it. All right, my hot seat is the Chicago White Sox.
So we have a strategy betting against the A's. It's been mixed reviews.
They did lose by two runs the other night, Monday night. I am a fucking idiot because this weekend I tried to bet against the Athletics.
I put the bet in for the next day's game, for the following day's game, which was also listed on the odds that I could put down on. They ended up losing that game by a lot.
That would have been a rare win for us in the past week i missed out on that money and then yesterday i don't want to blame steven che yes we can i don't want to blame steven he's in charge of telling but it's steven che's fault yeah and he didn't tell us to bet against the athletics and i didn't get the bet in and the athletics end up losing by two runs yes that's another i guess it's of... Units that you need back.
Yeah, units that I need back. That's the exact way to do it.
It's multiple units that I need back, and so I'm 0 for 2 on the last games that we should have won. Yeah.
Under the system. So the thing is with the betting against the A's, it was because of that fuck face, John Fisher.
Fuck him. And also we thought they'd be really bad.

We should have picked the White Sox because the White Sox are so, so bad.

And Jerry Reinsdorf, also a fuckface, is going to be, if the Bulls win on Wednesday night,

going to be like, look, see, we got to the second level of the play-in game another year in a row.

But the White Sox, I have some stats from you.

This is from Jay Kuda, who's a great Twitter follower. He also is a White Sox fan.
Number of times the Braves have been shut out in the last 430 days? Two. Number of times the White Sox have been shut out in the last 430 hours? Six.
In baseball history, two teams have been shut out at least six times in their first 16 games.

The 1907

Brooklyn Super

Baz. Huh?

They were before the Dodgers.

And the 2024 Chicago

White Sox.

We also have this

stat that

games won since opening day. UConn men's Huskies four, Chicago White Sox two.
It's just bad. It just keeps getting worse and worse and worse and worse.
They are on pace for the 2003 Tigers that ended up winning 43 games. And here's the last one.
Number of days Pedro Graval has been manager of the White Sox. If you remember, we talked about it last week that Jerry Reinsdorf didn't want to fire him because he wanted to let his contract run out a little more.
So number of days he has been the manager of the White Sox, 531. Number of days he has had a winning record, one.
Opening day yeah it's bad things are bad on the south side they don't know where they're going to play in the future too right they're looking for a new stadium jerry reyes was doing the john fisher thing he's just being a fucking dickhead somehow and this is shocking the the story of the lady that snuck a gun into the guaranteed rate field and accidentally shot herself in the stomach

because she was too fat to be holding a gun in her belly.

That's not the saddest, weirdest story to happen

with the White Sox in the last two years.

Yeah, and listen, I'm not a White Sox fan,

but I have a lot of friends, people in my life

that root for the White Sox, and I feel bad for them.

I'm going to do something for them that will hurt me,

but I'm going to do it.

I always say, honestly, the Chicago White Sox and where they play, guaranteed Rayfield, has some of the best food in all of sports, Major League Baseball, everything. Food, beverage, everything.
Beers, everything. S'mores, milkshake.
Way better than Wrigley. Like, world's better than Wrigley.
So whenever I tell people, like, oh, go to White Sox, I'm like, dude, they just do a top-class job of it. I'm no longer going to say that because that's what Jerry Reinsworth wants you to say.
Because he's like, it doesn't matter what happens on the field. We got great food.
We got great beer. It's a great atmosphere.
I can no longer say that. I'm going to stand with White Sox fans.
I will no longer plug the fact that going to a game there is actually fun and a great experience. So no more.
Dog shit food. They get nothing out of you.
Nothing. Because I would.
People would ask. I'd be like, dude, Wrigley does not have even close to the same food as the White Sox.
That milkshake, though, I would let that milkshake do unspeakable things to me. Yeah.
It's so good so uh white socks are really down bad uh and then my cool throne is golf because golf they did have a bad masters ratings but it was fun to watch the masters and nonetheless uh golf uh has rory maybe going to the live so way to go golf he denied it yeah i know he it was it was such a classic golf like live being oh, the Masters just happened. This is cool.
Everyone's talking about the Masters. Let's just float out that Rory's thinking about $850 million.
Didn't we talk? Was it with Whitney or was it with Riggs? I forget. One of those guys.
We said, how much would it rock if Rory just decided to go to the live after talking all that shit? But it's just impossible. He pga tour for it seemed like forever he was the spokesperson but this is all live's entire strategy is this now where it's like oh some big pga event happens let's just say oh tiger woods thinking about taking 1.5 billion dollars also did you read the story about greg norman at the masters yeah his hand dude his hand is sore because he shook too many hands during the Masters.
So he got denied credentials, which every time this happens, people are like, we don't even know if he actually tried to get credentials. He bought a ticket from – he just bought a ticket online, showed up, said that there were so many people that came up to him and said, thank you so much for what you're doing for golf.
And then he also, he like tried to stare down Rory for a couple holes, like basically tried to get in his eyesight and Rory just never acknowledged him. But weird, weird dude.
I did hear some people saying like you get the microphones picked up that said, thank you for everything you do online. Thanks for all the content.
Yeah. Now we do stand with Brooks and his live team smash smash and separate the art from the artist uh also golf's back because scotty scheffler went to a hole in the wall dive bar when he landed in dallas that was cool that is cool yeah just like us and people are like well he wanted to be with his wife his wife's probably sleeping yeah also oh they they also they clowned tony obround him the pga tour did they like, he woke up in the morning because obviously his wife's pregnant.
She's sleeping in. And he made himself his own breakfast.
And the Instagram caption was Chef Scheffler. Ooh.
Big time Clown Tonio Brown. Nice.
Nice. It's literally in his last name.
He was wearing the same outfit that he won the Masters in at this bar, which was very cool. I also was looking back and I'm going to retract something with Scotty.

I was like, I need this baby to come soon so that he doesn't get all this credit for

being this awesome dude that I'm going to leave.

I think that he was forced into saying that he was going to leave.

He just said his wife was pregnant and then media members asked if he would leave if she

went into labor.

He never was like, she's imminent for later. He didn't have that plan? have that plan right he wasn't like oh she could have a baby at any time yeah the reporters kept on saying if hypothetically she had a baby so scotty's off the hook a great dude all right good yeah i stand with scotty we like scotty like he you know how that can happen where he gets duped where people are like well like his wife could be three months pregnant and reporters would say that like what if she has the baby he's got to answer it one way that was he didn't have that discussion with his wife before talking about it right he was boxed into a corner where it's like she's probably not gonna have the baby why are you bringing this up okay if you ask me this question directly i guess i have to say i'd leave yeah by the way i did just look it up charlotte the pregnant stingray yeah by the way pregnant air in north carolina still has not given birth now they're doing a bait and switch news story now the story is she's regrowing her dropped tail barb that she lost isn't she crazy so now it's just oh we're supposed to forget about the the pregnancy because she's apparently re-sprouting limbs this this stinks to high heaven i don't think i don't think this bitch is pregnant okay and and guy who's listening who's about to walk back into the trump trial you can now go now that you have this charlotte yeah the charlotte that that bitch ain't pregnant i just love the idea of that guy just yeah just sitting there oh this high stakes moment and we're just updating on charlotte and scottyffler to dive bar.
Scotty Scheffler drank beers. Drank beers.
News. News story.
That looked actually like a lot of fun. Like, imagine being at that dive bar and just sitting there on a Sunday night and the Masters champ walks in.
Yeah. I mean, if I was Scotty, I would just live in dive bars for the rest of my life.
So awesome. I would just wear the green jacket everywhere.
Yeah, I would too. But you'd probably get a phone call from Augusta if you're wearing it in an establishment they don't approve of.
You only get to keep it for a year. Yeah, you only get to keep it for a year.
And then they keep it at Augusta? Yeah. John Rahm talked about that, how he had it in his closet, and he was saying he kind of wishes he wore it more because he has to give it back.
Yeah. Yeah, but Scotty off the hook.
Hopefully weotty on sometime we stand with scotty that was uh he was duped by the media my apologies for falling for their tricks no my apologies as a member of the media yeah the media will do the media makes us look bad as members of the media like the media right now has been saying that hank didn't do his taxes bullshit it's fake bullshit bullshit They're saying Max stuffed his face with food. Bullshit.
That did happen. Did Tom Fernelli do his taxes? Hank? Probably.
Probably. Probably.
Okay. Jerry Russ.
All right. Jake.
My hot seat is international basketball teams. We talked about it with Blake Griffin coming up, but the USA announced its Olympic roster for 2024 in Paris, and it is stacked.
They're looking to win every game by 50. I am predicting that the United States will win a gold medal in basketball this year.
Steph, LeBron, Katie, Tatum, Embiid, Booker, Halliburton, Edwards, Holiday, Adebayo, AD, and one open spot. There's just one ball.
Maybe for our guy Blake Griffin who's coming up. Yeah.
We have squashed the beef with Zach Eady because he didn't make any NIL money, and he was an all-time college basketball player. I really want to play Canada.
Just fucking yam on him. Just dunk on him? Just yam on him.
Canada's got a good team. Is Zach Eadie, is he on Canada? Yeah.
Okay, good. It's like Shea Gilgis, Andrew Wiggins.
RJ Barrett. Lou Dort, maybe? What are you going to say, Max? We're Eadie.
No, I just felt bad. We're Eadie positive, but Embiid.
Wait. Him trying to guard Embiid is going to be tough.
Oh, yeah, yeah positive it sounds like we can't get it up speak for yourself I guess saying positive ED doesn't really help we have ED that's what I would say if I was Canadian Canadians have ED wait is Embiid playing in the Olympics? Yeah, he's on the list for the U.S., which is weird. Really? Yes.
Ring chaser. Because he knows he's never going to win one in the NBA.
Yeah, here we go. It's actually a pretty good team.
SGA, Jamal Murray, R.J. Barrett, Dylan Brooks, Lou Dort, Kelly Olenek, Zach Eady.

Decent team.

Yeah.

And then a guy named Thomas Scrub.

That sucks.

Yeah, that's awful.

That sucks to be the last listed.

That's brutal, dude.

Old Tom Scrub.

Old Tom Scrub.

We got to throw him on there. Yeah, so they've kind of put themselves in a position where if they don't blow every team out.

So why do we have an open spot?

I don't know. Oh, man.
Who could it be? Yeah. Who are they saving it for? So the potential list I'm looking at from Riggs' blog is Jared Allen, Paolo, Desmond Baines, Scotty Barnes, Bridges, Jalen Brown, Brunson, Jimmy Butler, Alex Caruso.
Ah, Caruso. It's got to be Caruso.

Got to be Caruso.

Darren Fox, Paul George.

Needs to be Caruso.

Caruso for sure.

We got to get Caruso on this team.

Brunson snubbed.

Oh, Brunson snubbed.

You can't be doing pro Brunson stuff until we find out who you're playing in the first round, Max. I know.

It sucks.

Max having to.

All right, McHale Bridges snubbed.

Max having to go against the New York Wildcats. The Nova Knicks.
Yeah. Nova Knicks.
I hate that they all play for the Knicks. If they were any other team, they'd be my second favorite team in the NBA.
But just brutal. Jake, your cool throne.
Two cool thrones. One of them quickly.
Plug God. First responders.
We have a huge event this weekend on Long Island. FDNY NYPD 50th annual hockey game on Barstool.tv Saturday.
I believe our coverage starts at 4 p.m. Eastern.
Can't wait for that. Plus, we're off in reality Friday night.
Who's going to be on the call with you? So, unfortunately, Biz isn't able to make it because we have an NHL playoff conflict. So it will be me and Colby Armstrong, who does great things on Spittin' Chicklets.
He calls games for the Penguins, so he's great. Witt will be in between the benches, I believe.
And then Jeff, I think Dave will be there, part of the pregame and intermission. Big guy, you did that last year.
It's an awesome, awesome event. Always fights in that game, too, which is great.
Oh, yeah. I can't wait to call him.
It's going to be awesome. Yeah.
Any rumors to the truth that Biz was afraid because he can't spell NYPD?

I believe that's false.

Okay.

All right.

I read that online, but that's the media.

Any truth to the rumor that Biz is missing because Will Compton scheduled this for him?

I don't think that's true either.

Okay.

No, Biz has the hockey playoffs are starting.

Yeah.

So it's understandable.

TNT.

Yes.

So that is a cool throne with Ruffin Rowdy. Big Cat will be there.
And my other cool throne is John Sterling. Yeah, retired.
Retired out of the blue. That's a weird time to retire, right? I think he just was like, all right, I got it one more time.
And then two weeks in, he's like, I guess not. He said, I read an interview he did with Jimmy Tran where he was basically like, I really wanted to retire to start the season.
I kind of convinced myself I could keep doing it, and I can't. Goes out on top? Yeah.
No, Jake. On his own terms.
No, Jake. He did this for 64 years.
Legend. Legend.
I mean, the Stantonian. He had a great career.
Did he say that's way out of here? Yeah, and that is gone. And then he just said, what happened? What did I do wrong? He is a legend, though.
He's a legend. Baseball and radio is just the best.
So whenever you lose a baseball announcer for radio, it does hurt. Yeah, those voices become part of your childhood growing up.
And it's the summer. The boys' summer.
I've seen a lot of guys say it. And girls, a big reason why you get into the business is because you like what you see from the guys and girls you listen to.
Is he doing one last game? No, that's it. He pulled the plug.

They're honoring him Saturday. Oh, wow.

His last home run was a Stantonian Grand Slam. Oh, wow.
It's

fitting. At the stadium.
Susan Waldman's

thing? She's around, yeah. Oh, good.

That's baseball season. Of all the

dramatic things. In Georgia's box.
Roger

Clemens is in Georgia's box. Have you

ever seen anything in all my years?

All my years. Oh, my God.

Jake, what voice really spoke to you?

What voice was like, I need to have that voice? I mean, in terms of like people or their actual voice? No, just a voice. Huh.
Kevin Harlan's got a great voice. But he's got like an all-time voice.
You can't try to fake a Kevin Harlan voice. It would sound very fake.

Yeah.

Just got to be yourself.

What were you going to say, Hank?

Do you have something to say?

Do you have something to say?

Do you want to say something?

I want to say something.

Yeah.

Hank, did you do his taxes?

Hank, were you falling asleep during Hot Seat, Cool Throne?

No.

Did it a couple times?

No.

Did I see you not off?

Do you have a sleep problem?

Are you addicted to sleep? I think you've been working out too well. You've got up early.
Yeah. You get sleep addiction? I was trying to get Max's attention to put the camera on you during Hot Seat Cool Throne.
Did he? No, he didn't see me. Yeah, I wasn't asleep.
Are these things recording even when it's not on him? Do you know getting up? They are? So we can review the tape? Yeah. Okay, yeah, we'll review the tape.
Yes. Please make a brief clip

of Hank falling asleep during Hot Seat Cool Throne.

Why are you guys coming at me so hard?

I just had a question. What is it?

If you fell asleep.

No, I heard the whole thing. Hank has been

coming in early since the time he slept

until 1130. That's a fact.

I've seen you here very early. He's training to dunk.

You have a sleep problem? You didn't take your sleep?

No, I haven't been getting any sleep.

Yeah. Because you've been thinking

Thank you. 1130.
That's a fact. I've seen you here very early.
He's training to dunk. You have a sleep problem? You addicted to sleep? No, I haven't been getting any sleep.
Yeah, because you've been thinking about dunking. And getting up early.
Hank did put a camera in my face about five seconds ago, and he was like, do you think I'll be able to dunk by the end of the year? Yeah, for the dunkumentary. It's coming out soon.
Oh, fuck yes. That, I mean, you have to watch a dunkumentary.
Mm-hmm. Okay, let's get to, to, speaking of documentaries, let's get to Blake Griffin.
He retired from the NBA today. He's been a big part of our show, and we have an awesome interview.
Very, very Blake Griffin interview. Stay till the end when we go on a side tangent that- It's more of a side quest.
It's a side quest, but it was also perfectly Blake. If you've listened to the show for a very long time, you know it was just perfectly Blake Griffin on the show.
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Find all One Bars at a retailer near you or on amazon.com okay here he is blake griffin okay we now welcome on a very very very very special guest one of our oldest dearest friends on pardon my take he is a sixtime all-star rookie of the year but bigger than all of that he's a two-time Blake of the year three-time right three-time Blake of

the year whoo it is Blake Griffin who has announced his retirement from the game of basketball uh

let's start there you retired did you want to throw in a mention to us in the retirement uh note

Thank you. ball uh let's start there you retired did you want to throw in a mention to us in the retirement uh note i did i actually you know in like a week i'm going to start putting out my previous drafts that didn't make the cut um so just be on the lookout for those they'll be probably in the form of a video or something so were we ever like you're ever like me sneak you in right after my parents and brother? Like, hey, if we're talking about people that mean the most to me in my career, what made me great? It was like, you guys are my agent and I've had the same agent the whole time.
And he was in a mess about it. So I was like, you know what? The guys will understand.
Yeah, yeah. We don't.
Yeah, we definitely don't like we're yeah i don't know you guys i guess apparently i'm sorry that's okay next time i retire from something you're in there okay i'd like to i'd like to retire from uh my career potentially being in the nba right now i'd like to thank blake griffin for showing me that i could play in the nba even though i can't dunk. I too would like, I would also actually like to announce that I'm retiring from not dunking.
I will be dunking men's leagues, um, smaller hoops, um, on my, you know, friends, whoever it is. So I'm unretiring.
I'm, I'm retiring from not dunking. Okay.
Wait, I would like to thank PFT and big Cat yes okay I like that so wait are you actually going to play men's league because that is I I oh whenever I talk to someone who retires it's like the coolest thing you could do is just show up to like pick up games or men's league games and just fucking dominate I don't know I I mean, you never say never justin bieber i i'll probably i there's a chance i slip into a men's league game here or there yes who knows yes all right so maybe i come to the chicago the the new the new dome and play a little we play a little pickup basketball it would be awesome to see you do one of those videos i always love it when athletes pretend to go undercover for you know some sort of like marketing stunt and they're like oh shit that was kyrie irving i had no idea if you did it you're like 6 10 going undercover you could act like you were like an old man on crutches and then you just go out there and start yamming on people that would rock yeah it doesn't work as well when you're playing the sport that you are playing professionally undercover yeah but you know but you had a great career obviously a lot of highs um you've done a lot of cool shit a lot of cool shit so congratulations i think we truly mean that that like you know this is a good moment for you and i hope that a lot of people are telling you all the you know good memories they have and thanking you for whatever you've done for them i want want to know what your favorite part of your NBA career is because I have

one and I'm just curious if we had

the same one.

I can almost guarantee

it's probably not going to be the same one.

Mine might be the same one.

Mine might be the same one as yours.

Man, favorite part.

Probably the tunnel debacle. Oh, okay, yeah.
Yeah. With the Rockets, you know? They dug deep.
They popped up into our locker room. It was like a Looney Tunes situation.
Yeah. It popped up, and we were there to meet them.
We held our ground. I like that.
I appreciate it. What's your favorite? Because I have a favorite as well.
Mine was going to be when you dumped that glass of water on the fan. You were pretending to, like, say, oh, what's going on on the video board? And you just doused him with water.
That rocked. What do you mean pretending? You were pretending to be like, oh, what's going on? And then you threw the water on him.
Yeah, that was unfortunate, man. Unfortunately, happy to be a warriors fan but i actually i actually know him he's a nice guy and we've uh we've reminisced about it yeah my favorite uh moment from your nba career is when you made 258 million dollars oh man was that it that's a pretty cool moment right uh yeah it's pretty cool cool, I guess.
Growing up, I didn't ever imagine that would be a possibility. So that was pretty cool, I guess.
Yeah. All right.
So what's today like, though? Because we were talking before. I mean, I'm sure you're just getting texts from everyone.
And it probably was like, oh, I didn't want to get this many text messages today. But have you had a moment to be like, this is pretty cool that this many people are reaching out and, like, care about me and appreciate my career? Yeah, I mean, definitely.
You know, it's been three hours. I kind of just, like – I've responded to some, you know, people that I know.
But it's been pretty cool, man. It's cool to see teammates, old teammates, guys that are still playing, all my friends and family.
I mean, you know, when you, when you play this long and like, it's been a, been a career, like a lot of people are affected by that. You know, your friends, your family, you can't go to stuff.
I've missed weddings. I've missed, you know, a whole bunch of stuff.
So it's cool to like, sort of put that, put that in the past, you know, actually, you know, I didn't know how it was going to feel, but it is nice, man. I was ready to be done.
Yeah. So wait, so was there any – because when we had Peyton Pritchard and Derek White in here, they said they begged you to come back.
Was there any part of you this year where you were like, maybe I can just get on a team for the playoffs be you know

give some give a couple minutes here like or were you just I'm done uh I kind of left it open uh for

a while I I did did have sort of a I guess a standing offer to go back to Boston and I remember

like December like in the December hit and I called uh Brad Stevens and I was like man I really

appreciate I had communication with him the whole time and I just I wasn't I wasn't there man I just

Thank you. December hit and I called Brad Stevens and I was like, man, I really appreciate it.
I had communication with him the whole time. And I just, I wasn't, I wasn't there, man.
I just, I don't know, something changed. And I knew like when something changed like that, like it was time to be done.
And I told him, you know, like, I think it was like into December. And then I kind of like waited around.
I honestly just kind of was enjoying life a little bit and, you know, finally decided to put it out there. But, yeah, I mean, if I had gone anywhere, I would have gone back to Boston.
I love those guys, and I'm pulling for them, and they got a great shot. But it was just time for me to be done.
I don't think that I would have been – like, I wouldn't have been able to give what I should give to a team, you know, if my heart, like, truly wasn't in it, you know. That's got to be awesome, though, to know that you retired while someone was still wanting you to be on the team.
Like that's a good way to go. Yeah, I mean, yeah, it's nice to sort of retire someone on your own terms, you know, and not, you know, not like be begging the whole season, but super appreciative of Boston and those guys, Brad and all those guys, but it was time.
Yeah. So what is actually next for you? Because we have a feeling that you're coming after our job.
Mm-hmm. In some shape or form.
Well, you're coming after our job in podcasting. You're probably coming after Hank's job in golfing.
Yeah, I'm pretty serious about my golf game. Hopefully big strides this summer.
I think I'm going to play in that Tahoe tournament.

Didn't get a championship in basketball,

so hopefully I get a

meaningless championship at a

celebrity golf tournament.

That counts, yeah? Yeah, it does count.

I don't know, man.

Podcasting, maybe.

OnlyFans, maybe.

Maybe start coaching a G League team, team get into a fight get fired try to become a gm get fired i like that start a podcast get fired yeah i don't know that sounds like a blake griffin gets fired would be a great reality oh see how many jobs you can get canned from yeah Yeah. Wait.
I know. What does Wake Up Mincy? Yeah.
Fired. What's your handicap right now? It's about 10 something right now.
11. 11.
One, I think right now. But, you know.
Oh, so. We're working on it.
You still suck. Yeah.
I'm not good at all. It's been like two, you know, almost three years now.
And I was like, I think it was like 15 beginning of last summer and i've just been grinding hey i don't want to admit how how much i practice golf now but um i love it it's like it's a it's a huge like stress reliever yeah but that's actually good that you're 10 handicap because if you retired and you were scratched it's like what do you what do you have to do now yeah i mean like like i feel like all the scratch golf most of the scratch golfers i know are miserable yeah because they're just like unless you shoot under par you're you're not you didn't do well yeah i can go out there i can shoot 95 still had a great day yeah yeah if you see somebody that that tells you that they're scratch and you're right if they don't shoot par then you're like that's bullshitting me. He's not really scratch.
They don't understand how the system works. Also, I think we said this to Brooks Koepka when he was on the show one time.
I think we have more fun playing golf than Brooks Koepka or somebody at that level does because when you hit a good shot out of nowhere, you're like, holy shit, golf is awesome. That was great.
And for them, they hit one bad shot around, and they like i fucking suck so we're actually yeah we're doing it the right way i mean you saw guys like come every every tournament the guys are coming down the stretch and they like put one in the water denny mccarthy the other day or the two tournaments ago had an unbelievable bag nine record-breaking bag nine sorry don't mean to pile on here but he and then puts one in the water and Everybody's like, oh, that sucks. I put one in the water.
I'm like, I've got one in my pocket. You're like, I didn't see that go in.
Yeah. Didn't that bounce out? Yeah.
Yeah. Oberg when Oberg was playing so well.
And yeah, Scotty beats the shit out of him. And then he's like, damn it.
I just lost a Masters potentially. It's like, dude, you played you.
You hit like 100 great shots this week, and that would be enough for my entire lifetime. Yeah.
Yeah, I can't wait to hit 100 good ones. Have you played Augusta? No.
Oh, you got to play it before Hank. It shouldn't be hard.
All right, that's my new goal. Yeah, yeah.
Do you have like a list of things you want to do? I feel like when everybody retires, they're like, okay, here's five goals that I have for myself. Yeah.
It's mostly like travel stuff. There's just not a lot of places I've been able to go just because our off season was so short.
I want to do Australia, but in their summer, all the places that are summer during our winter, I never got to go to. I checked the box off on skiing, skied the time that's that had to look weird yeah i mean also you know i don't know if you guys know this but my knee history hasn't been great so that was a huge concern i was like literally i took a lesson and i'm just i get on the bunny slope and they're legitimately like six five-year-olds getting lessons and it's just me just like like much slower than them but we gotta hang up it the tallest man on skis what about visiting beautiful Chicago and hanging out with us here that's gotta be on the list yeah that's on the list as well you know I hear it's beautiful this time time of year or maybe in a month or two so you know I'll let you guys know when I pop by.
It'll be fun. I want you to dunk on Max so bad.
Yeah. Yeah.
There's a few things I want to do. That's one of them.
That's close to the top of the list. Sorry, Max.
No, you have to dunk on him. Yes.
Just any Philly fan. Yeah.
Right. You might not be able to jump over a Kia anymore, but Max, how tall are you? Six foot? Six foot.
We'll say six one. Six flat.
We'll say six one. He's six feet tall.
Could you jump over Max? Yeah, I think so. It's like a midsize sedan.
Yeah. Yeah, that works.
Yeah, just come to Chicago, teabag Max. Yeah.
That'd perfect. I'm there.
All right, so your retirement letter. Yeah, well, no, it wasn't a letter.
Well, it was kind of a letter. It was a non-letter.
It was a non-letter letter. It was a non-letter letter.
What part of it are you going to look back in like two days and be like, man, I wish I hadn't written that? I mean, hopefully of it i don't know was it bad no it was good but you it felt like you didn't want to write it and you were forced to write it because it's like that's what guys got to do they got to write it like you're you know you even said it in it you're like i never envisioned myself as the guy who had to write one of these yeah well i just i just felt like i would do it a different way i i don't i don't i don't think i'll regret any part of it i think i my message that i just wanted to get across was like i i am thankful even for like the shitty moment that's like what makes the ups and downs of like the season the ups and downs of a career the ups and downs of life that's like what makes it all worth it you know i was trying trying to be sincere um with like a little bit of a little bit of levity but um i don't know i i felt pretty good about it i honestly i just wanted to just get it out there and be done with it yeah i mean the correct answer was the part that you didn't mention us but um oh yeah but i remember i said i was gonna i was gonna there's there's like a part two to the retirement letter. That would have turned it into a letter.
Being part two of a letter is actually cooler than being part one of a letter. Yeah.
Yeah, because it's like the PS part is like the part that everybody remembers because it's just like the last thing they read. True.
True. I'll put something together real nice for you guys.
Have you spent any time online today looking what people are saying about you? No, I have not. You should do that.
I, I, I sincerely mean that because like all the things that people are saying, I searched for Blake Griffin on Twitter and I just get to watch highlight reels of your best dunks. You should do that.
You should treat yourself and just be like, yeah, I was pretty fucking awesome at dunking the ball. Yeah the ball yeah yeah i mean yeah maybe i will it's fun to fun to relive it from a different perspective i guess who's who's who are you teabagging in this knicks dunk oh man oh timothy mozgov oh man oh yes that was bad brother yeah do you have do you have a favorite dunk over the entire course of your career um that was one of them.
I remember that Knicks game. I had three dunks that I felt like were – I don't know.
After that game, I've said this before, but after that game, I think I went home and I woke up the next morning and I feel like my life never changed after that game. So it holds a special moment to like a special moment, you know, to me that, that it was just like, everything just kind of just like, just took off.
Yeah. Are you gonna, are you going to be an actor? Cause I feel like you would be an awesome actor.
Um, I've got a couple things, uh, lined up that I can't really talk about yet, but, um, not, not like not as maybe, maybe a little bit. Um, I got a um i got a couple things that i'm pretty excited about um kind of at the intersection of sports and comedy i guess a little bit so well i mean like we we've known you for a long time i i think like there are athlete funny where a guy can like do a quote and it's like oh he's funny because we don't see an athlete do those quotes.
You're legitimately funny. And I would love to see you.
I even saw you in that commercial. You fucking crushed that commercial.
Was it a Super Bowl commercial? I don't know. It's the ones where you were doing a bunch of stuff in the kitchen.
Oh, the Daily Harvest one? Yeah. I was like, this is...
This was great. I want to watch more Blake.
I only... When I started doing endorsement deals and had to do commercials, I asked early on.
I was like, I, I, I, I, I, I, like, this is, this was great. Like, I want to watch more Blake.
I only like when I started doing endorsement deals and like had to do commercials, I asked like early on, I was like, I only want to do something fun. I only want to do like a comedy commercial, you know, like something that's funny.
And then over the course of time, like it just worked out because, you know, I think brands and people like enjoyed that a little bit more than like the typical, like, you know, every day I wake up and train know what i put into the game like get out of the game and nothing wrong with those but like i just like never wanted to do that there's it's so fun to like try to think of funny things and and execute so um that's kind of what i'll be doing from here on out it would rock it a teaser it would also rock if you ended up like shack where your face is on every product known to man like you're selling printers and best buy yeah that'd be fun like just but just like everything shack does but just like the competitor like ben gay yeah whatever the competitive general insurance is yeah hewlett packard printers yeah go one-on-one. What, uh, who's your favorite teammate that we wouldn't know either.
You can maybe don't do like a, like a, someone that's like a perennial all all-star, someone famous, but like someone, some guy that's like, give him his flowers. Like, yeah, no one knows this guy was the best.
I love like I've said, I mean, I mean, Jamal Crawford's the name. Everybody knows that name.
Right. But he's the best i love like i've said i mean i mean jamal crawford's the name everybody knows that name right but he's the best yeah one of my young boys i love bruce brown man awesome dude yep um love uh lamar odom was awesome like an awesome dude awesome teammate just like so caring so kind uh i could i could name so many guys i've had i've had some awesome teammates i don't want to leave anybody off the list but those guys are great yeah and then what uh are you gonna miss are you gonna miss the guys in the locker room you got to say that yeah you know what i think i'm gonna miss the most is those little times in the locker room the bus rides the camaraderie no i really will i mean everybody like every every teammate i remember like you know guys retire and i talked to them and everybody mentions like that's what they miss i will miss like playing basketball a little bit you know sometimes i'll watch games i'll be like i mean it'd be fun to be out there but also like you know into my career i was only out there half the time not that many minutes so you know it's it's when when like your favorite thing to do is play basketball and like you're you're not doing that all the time you're not doing it at a level you're used to it's like it's probably time yeah you know yeah but i will miss i will miss like those those conversations like the i told some of the guys on boston too like i'm not just going to sign before the playoffs because like part growing together as a team through a season is you go through all training camp.
You go through all that shit of road trips that are miserable, losing streaks, bad games, whatever it is. You grow together and you have that kindred spirit.
For me, it was I don't want to just jump on a roster at the end of the season the season try to win a championship like part of the joy is like being there from the beginning yeah that makes sense you could get that same kind of locker room environment uh if you were to do like the uh nba show on tnt have they talked to you about that i feel like you would you would be the one guy that i feel like would fit in with shaq kenny charles the whole crew i don't know man i i've had some conversations about doing some some uh what's it studio stuff some broadcasting stuff it's just like i don't know talking basketball is fun and something i know but like i don't know i just kind of want to do something a little bit more broad than that um so never say never again, but, you know, those guys are great. I think they have a good formula, and I think I want to try to forge my own path a little bit.
All right. Yeah, I respect that.
I noticed – actually, let me ask you to this way. Who is your favorite owner that you've played for who had to sell the team? Oh, man, had to sell the team gotta be d stir i mean yeah got a bad rap got a really bad rap but jesus was he a sweetheart you know once you got past the racism and the bigotry and yeah you know dude i mean talk about misunderstanding yeah Yeah, I noticed he wasn't included in the thank yous.

Yeah.

Part three, baby.

Part three.

Yeah, whatever you do, if you do a part two, we don't want to be on the same thank you as Donald Sterling.

Yeah.

Why not?

Actually, no, we can.

You can throw us in there.

That's fine.

He did have the best testimony of all time.

Yeah.

Sorry I asked if that was your handwriting. No, we can.
You can throw us in. That's fine.
He did have the best testimony of all time. Yeah.
Yeah.

Sir, I asked if that was your handwriting.

Big Magic Johnson.

Oh, man.

Miss Deaster, man.

Miss Deaster.

All right.

So who was your favorite owner that made all his money in a software company?

Oh, man.

I think, yeah, there was a minority owner for the um pistons who had a tech startup love that um yeah he was great i don't want to say his name but he was great that's huge i know who you're talking about that guy rocks yeah yeah yeah that was a good answer Hey, it's Rhea from Trix in the Office. It's officially mini-skort season.

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Dude, Boston last year. That's what's crazy about Boston this year.
Boston's better this year than we were last year. I would have said Boston last year or obviously one of the Lob City teams.
I mean, our Nets team, we were super

talented,

but there was just something missing.

Obviously,

I think if we had beat

Milwaukee Game 7, we

had a great chance to win a championship.

I don't know. I was

super fortunate. Some of those Clipper teams,

we won 20 straight games

one year and just felt like we were just

on a roll.

For whatever reason, we just always

Thank you. super fortunate, man.
Some of those Clipper teams, man, we won like 20 straight games one year and just felt like we were just like on a roll and then, you know, for

whatever reason, we just always

injuries or just

mental lapses

that didn't get us there.

I was at that game,

the game seven against Milwaukee, the KD

foot on the line. That series,

you were just fucking all over

the place. You were just like, you were the

energy, everything, just fucking guarding

everyone. You know,

Thank you. on the line you that series you were just fucking all over the place you were just like you were the energy everything just fucking guarding everyone you know sometimes the old dogs got to learn a few new tricks yeah i just remember because you guys had so many injuries and it was just like blake is just doing literally anything that's asked for him and it's everything yeah it was like katie was just like scoring 50 and then we were just trying to put like plug gaps of like there's just like a new leak and we're like no go get that go get that plug that one um it was a fun series it sucks that we lost but it was a it was it was fun because like on every team of my career i just i sort of played like a very different role yeah um which was kind of fun it just kind of brings your career kind of of gives you that full spectrum.
Yeah, and the Pistons have not been the same since you left. That's a fact.
You know, they got some good young talent. Yeah.
They got some good young talent. Getting a new president soon, and, you know, things are looking up.
I remember that Pistons year where you took them to the playoffs and you had, like, before one of the games, I've never seen anyone have their knees wrapped more. And you just still went out.
Yeah, I had the offensive lineman brace. Yeah.
And you're like, even before the game, you had all the towels and everything, and you just went out there and just gave everything and just was a warrior for them. Yeah, that was fun.
And then, you know, I get some nice love from Pistons fans. I think maybe the majority probably hate me, but I'll tell you what.
I gave it a – quite literally almost tried to give it my all. Yeah.
Well, Hank just stepped in here. Hank, do you have any Celtics questions? He said one of the best teams he played on was last year's Celtics, and they're better this year.

Not because Blake's not on it.

Maybe.

No question.

That's all I needed to hear.

That's all you needed to hear?

Hank's very nervous about this year.

I'm not nervous.

I'm excited.

I mean, dude, they've got to stay healthy.

But, like, I mean, Joe Mizzoula's like a year under.

I think he's, like, more comfortable now.

JTJ, it just feels like they just have

Thank you. Joe Missoula is like a year under.
I think he's like more comfortable now. JTJ, it just feels like they just have pieces that all work, and they're so good.
They're so good. Hank's nodding.
He's poured his entire self-worth into this Celtics postseason. Yeah, I mean, you know, sounds like just like a diehard sports fan.
Yeah. Diehard sports fan anybody started the blake griffin for hall of fame conversation oh can we be the first we'll do it yeah if you guys want to um i'm sure i think it's no brainer i think it's first ballot thanks man i appreciate it i don't know though you never know i uh sometimes you you you see guys like oh they got not like, who was it this year?

Chauncey.

I mean, that's a Hall of Famer right there.

Vince Carter, Hall of Famer.

And then you try to go look and see like what guys accomplished, what like awards.

Obviously, winning a championship helps, but I don't know.

I honestly, I'm not going to spend too much time thinking about it.

I have one question, Blake.

Yeah. One mulligan for your career, one one shot if you could have one single shot back and take it again what would that shot be like uh like a actual shot yeah oh man um there was like uh moments like with the clippers was, I don't know, I mean, there was, there was, there was like moments like with the Clippers.
I don't know. I mean, there was, there was, there was, I don't know.
That's a great question. Great question.
There's probably the series against, the series against, we went up 3-1 on Houston. They came back and won.
There was a point in game six at home where we were up and then, you know, they came back. There was like, like there was there was moments where i like you know had a had a missed shot that like you never know like with four minutes left a made shot could just completely deflate them so it's probably in that series somewhere i don't know exactly a shot but not necessarily a game winner yeah do you think that um you retiring at this time can take your name officially off the list for the Olympic team for that open roster spot that they're keeping? I said I was retiring from the NBA, not the Olympics.
Yeah. Skip like a gold medal.
Ooh. Yeah.
No, I mean, listen, I don't know. Never say never.
Yeah. Kind of the theme for me today.
Did David Duke reach out to out to you today uh junior the one that the basketball player the basketball player yes yes yes yeah yeah yeah no was there another david duke that reached out to you uh i don't know when i first met him i walked up and i go hey man big fan i don't know if he got it. But obviously, yeah.

Yeah, it was a joke.

Yeah, it was very much a joke.

I think there's maybe a message here from him somewhere.

Junior, David Junior.

David Junior, the financier.

Yeah, the financier.

Yeah, exactly.

What?

Jeffrey?

Who's your favorite point guard you played with?

Oh, man.

Got to be CP. Yeah.
Got to be CP. uh who's your favorite point guard you played with oh man uh gotta be cp yeah um gotta be cp yeah yeah he's like you know kind of he like as a young player came he was there my second year taught me uh he like taught me how to taught us as a team like how to how to like will a victory like that was his thing yeah all right wait I have I have another basketball question for you um Kyrie Irving is beloved in the NBA by all the players is it just because he's so goddamn good at basketball like when you when you play with them or practice with them you're just like he does things that we all wish we could do yeah I mean like a perfect example is the left-handed running, pushing floater that he hit over Jokic in the game.
Like, it's just like a shot where he does that, and you're not, like, lucky. It's just like he shoots it, and you just expect to go in.
Also, like, the way he, like, hangs it, it. Like the things he can do are like, I think he's the most talented basketball player in the NBA.
Maybe still. Yeah.
It's a weird thing to say because like, you know, there's so many talented guys, but the things he does at his like stature and like, he's not like crazy athletic. He's athletic, but he's not's like it's pretty mind-blowing what he does yeah because it's always so funny whenever he's in the news for whatever reason but then all his teammates always have his back and you just you realize like they probably just watch him and they're like that guy can do all these things that help us win and are so incredible that like no one else in the world could do that stuff.

Yeah. I mean, yeah, he, he, he makes shots.

I've seen him make, even in practice,

I've seen him make shots that you're just,

it just like leaves you just kind of like scratching your head.

And then like an NBA practice, like you're playing five on five,

like guys are hitting crazy shots. It's not quite the game,

like a game setting. So guys are trying stuff, guys are doing stuff.

So you see some crazy stuff and he probably has like three of the top five Thank you. guys are hitting crazy shots it's not quite the game like a game setting so guys are trying stuff

guys are doing stuff so you see some crazy stuff and he probably has like three of the top five things that craziest things i've seen in practice of all time yeah yeah just the way that he uh he puts the exact right amount of spin on the ball as he's coming down from the peak of his jump like in the paint and getting a layup around somebody that's like seven feet tall and he He spins the ball off the backboard and then.

Yeah, and also he's going the opposite way.

Or like he's facing the opposite way and still spins and still like, it's like, it's pretty nuts to be like that talented at controlling a basketball. Yeah.
One of the craziest like in-person basketball performance that I ever saw was remember we went to that game game, it was Cavs-Celtics in, what, 2016? And he scored like 18 straight, and it was just like, what, like, every type of shot, and you're just like, what is going on here? Like, no one can even come close to touching him. He's a great player, and I would think he's misunderstood.
He's definitely misunderstood. It is your retirement, so not to make it about us, but do you think we'll ever get Kevin Durant on this podcast? Yeah.
Perfect answer. Another guy who's misunderstood.
Yeah. I don't know.
I don't know how many podcasts he does. Does he do a lot of podcasts? I think he probably listens to a lot of podcasts.
Yeah. He leaves me on a scene on Instagram all the time.
Always hurts my feelings. Yeah.
I mean, listen. Never say never.
Never say never. Never say never.
Solid maybe. We never, you know, you never, there was probably a day when you were like, you know, growing up, you're like, will I ever make $258 million? Like, never say never.
No. Never say never.
Yeah, never say never. That's what I said as a kid.
I said never say never. 258 exactly.
Yeah. It's weird how that works.
I haven't written down actually. Yeah.
Yeah. A lot of kids say never.
You'd be surprised. Yeah.
So I want to talk real quick about Missoula because we're fascinated with him as a coach

and especially his love of the movie The Town.

You know that he loves the town, right?

Like would he always bring it up like constantly?

No, that wasn't even really – I think he definitely did bring it up once.

All the coaches last year had shirts that said whose car are we going to take.

So that was like definitely like their thing.

I did know he loved the town.

I'll ask on a uh like a character yeah you know he's not like playing that up like that's who he is so like and i think that's one of the most important things about head coaches is authenticity like guys can sniff through it immediately you know even if it's not your style like guys can sniff through you know somebody who's in unauthentic um and that's just who he is so i think that's why he's he's going to be a great coach did you know that he was getting choked out that he he would have his uh his jujitsu guy come over and just make him pass out for a little bit i didn't i we didn't we didn't touch on that uh but i did i have seen him i have seen him in his – was it Guy? No. Maybe.
It might be Guy. Yeah.
It might be Guy. I've seen him do that.
And then him and Grant – I think Grant Williams. Him and Grant, they would try to play spar.
And, I mean, there's no quitting that guy. Can you name all the Williams you played with? Oh, boy.
Robert Williams. Yes.
Start there. There's a guy named Jamal Williams who was on the Clippers that I played with.
This is a tough question. Let me think.
Williams. Let's go to Detroit.
There was no Williams on Detroit.

There was – okay.

Guys, come on.

What are we doing here? It's supposed to be about me.

Robert, Mo, Lou, Grant, CJ.

Mo.

That's a lot of them.

That's a lot of Williams.

CJ Williams, yeah.

CJ Williams.

Played with a lot of Williams.

That's a ton of Williams.

That's a lot of Williams that he played with.

Yeah.

I mean, listen, I was fortunate, you know, fortunate to have a lot of Williams as teammates. It's a great name.
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I wanted to get a little sentimental for a second and say thank you to you, Blake. You are a very important part of this podcast, and you can't tell the history of part of my take without Blake Griffin.
I really do sincerely mean it. You coming on, whatever it was, six, seven years ago, having fun with us, knowing that we're idiots, playing with the Blake of the year,.
Like that's what made it cool was that you were like – you took it seriously. And I just want to thank you.
Like you are – our success is – there's a piece of it is because of you. I greatly appreciate that.
And, yeah, man, I've always had fun. This is like the podcast that you look forward to doing um because you never know what's gonna happen but um it's uh it's awesome I love you guys and uh yeah man yeah when we retire yeah you will be in our retirement letter with with Donald Sterling we'll thank Donald we're gonna thank Donald Sterling for giving us so much material and also Blake Griffin.

Yeah, we'll put you right back to back.

I appreciate that, man.

Like the good old times, me and Donald Sterling.

MVPs.

I've got to call him, man.

I've got to call him.

Yeah, you should.

Just see what he's doing.

Oh, a little tip.

If you do decide to get into the podcasting game,

here's a great question you can ask your guests. So this will be my last question.
Blake, if you were to interview yourself on the day that you retired, what question would you ask yourself? Good question. Thank you.
Oh, man. I mean, I would have asked the Williams thing.
Yeah. I mean, we talk about hard-hitting questions.
Just leave people in a fucking, just a pretzel. We're going to have to ask every player that comes on the show.
Yeah, how many Williams did you want? Man, so what would I ask myself on the day that I was retiring? Yeah i'm basically getting you to do our interview with you for us um i would ask uh oh fuck the williams answer was good yeah i mean i guess we could just leave it we can cut it after yeah you actually you forgot willie green willie warren well no no willie reed you guys said williams Was that apostrophe S or just No how many Williams I think you said Williams Yeah So you forgot a bunch of Williams I did forget a bunch man Sorry to all the Willys and Williams So if anyone asks you this If you do another show got to simply go, I think I'd ask myself, was it all worth it?

And then I'd say yes.

And then I'd say yes. And then you repeat it.

And then I'd say yes.

And then I'd say yes.

Was it all worth it?

I love when any professional athlete says that.

Like, was it all worth it?

Yeah, I mean, I think so.

No.

You got to play in a professional sports league.

Would I change anything if I had to do it all over it yeah i mean i i think so no you got to play in a professional sports league would i change anything if i had to do it all over again hell no hell no i would answer that differently i'd be like i'd try to play with a few more williams just yeah yeah just to collect a few more williams along the way yeah i mean i'm i could be up there Williams. Yeah.
But you have to go up against guys like Robert Ory, guys that, like, bounced around. Yeah.
Oh, let's look. You know what? Let's look right now.
Robert Ory's teammates. Yeah, let's see how many Williams.
This is why people tune into this podcast. Robert Ory, I'm going to guess 13 Williamses.
Okay. So, Blake.
I mean, he may have rings. Is there a website where you can just type in how many Williams? No, you can just.
We should make it. Actually, yeah.
Blake had one, two, three, four, five Williams, if we're not counting Willys, but he had three Willys as well. Yeah, we're only talking Williams' last name.
Okay. So, Robert Ori had.
Oh, he had Hot Rod Williams. Eric Williams.
That's two. Robert Ori had oh we had hot rod Williams Eric Williams

that's two Robert Ori only had three Williams holy shit good job Blake who else could have a lot of Williams we're we're gonna trap you into the basically the the lottery ball again the big Let's just see.

Kobe.

I think maybe we just end it there.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, no.
Lou Williams, Shaman Williams, Sean Williams. Kobe only three Williams.
Not everybody can handle being on teams with Williams. I just like – I treat him like everybody else.
You know what I mean? Jay Crowder. I bet you Jay Crowder.
All right, all right. Let's see Jay Crowder real quick.
No, no, no. You know who? Ish Smith or Jeff Green.
Okay. Oh, Jeff Green.
Jeff Green's a good one. Jeff Green, all right, all right.
He might be the all-time dope. Jeff Green real quick.
Shout out. Shout out to Ish and Jeff Green.
All right, this is big. All right, Jeff Green, Terrence Williams, Nate Williams.
Only two Williams. Look up Jay Crowder.
Holy shit.

We got to find somebody that can be.

You might have the record for Williams.

What about Lou Williams?

Oh, you think Lou Williams attract Williams?

No, I don't think so.

He just played for so many teams.

Yeah, because how many times did you see L. Williams on the back of his jersey?

Never.

If there was another Williams, then he'd have to be L. Williams,

and he was always just Williams on the back.

Yeah.

Jay Crowder, you ready for this?

Uh-huh.

Oh, God.

Jay Crowder.

Can't just let me have this on my day.

On my day.

Has never played with a Williams.

What?

That's got to be the biggest statistic anomaly in the history of sports.

Holy shit.

Feels pretty good, boy.

Jay Crowder has never played with a Williams. How is that possible? Did you guys just have...
Let's keep this in mind next time we do Blake of the Year. Add that to the old resume.
Lou Williams only played with one Williams. No, he played with two Williams.
And himself. He probably played with himself a lot.
I mean, what's his name? Marvin Williams in Atlanta. This is a whole subset of category, which Williams has played with the most Williams.
This is a perfect way to have your retirement PMT interview go. Where we just...
How long can we... Mostly just you guys typing stuff in on your computer.
Yeah. Well, you just sit there and your phone blows up with like a bunch well actually did any williams text you uh uh does instagram messaging count yeah then no no i did i'd have to i'd have to scroll back you know i'm getting so many messages guys it's just it's hard to keep track right now so yeah let's just put me down for two williams messages yeah i found one guy who has five as well but i'm not gonna well you know what i could say because he's one of your favorite teammates jamal crawford also played with five williams yeah so that's that's cool you get to share with jamal that's great you know what that an honor.
Yeah. And Jamal, we'll have Jamal on when he retires in what, 10 years from now? Yeah.
You know? Didn't he officially retire? I think he did. I think he officially retired.
Yeah, he did. Yeah.
No, of course he did. I remember.
Yeah. I remember.
Also, credit to you for retiring when it wasn't like, oh, I thought he retired a while ago. Because your namesake, Blake Bortles, did do that on this show where he just accidentally retired on this show.
So you did a good job with that. Because you never want to be the guy who's retiring and everyone's like, oh, shit, didn't he retire like 10 years ago? Yeah.
Yeah, yeah. You always leave people wanting more.
Yeah. You've got to know when to exit.
Although, I'm sure people are like, didn't he retire 10 years ago? No. Those people are lazy.
Yeah, that's a lazy comment. Lazy sports fans.
Lazy sports fans. I like that you said, yeah, got to know when to exit as we look for the 10th person who has the most Williams as teammates.
All right, Blake. Got to call it.
Yeah, you are the best, though. We can't thank you enough.
We do want you to come out to Chicago and dunk on Max. It would be awesome.
One last dunk we could call. One last dunk, yeah.
Maybe make a whole documentary about it. Oh, I love it.
The last dunk? Yeah. Yeah, one last dunk.
We could actually do like – we could have it be like you start with – we could have you dunk over our turtle, Mr. Pear, and then go up from there, have you dunk over a dog, and then it's Max is the one last dunk and just balls in his face.
God, can you imagine if I slipped and kicked the turtle or the dog? Oh. You can kick me.
That's fine. Yeah, you can kick Max.
You can kick Max. I mean, dude, you're a tough guy, dude.
You'll be fine. Yeah.
Uh, all right, Blake, thank you as always. Congratulations on incredible career.
We love you. You're always a part of this show and, uh, look forward to Blake of the year coming up.
Thanks boys. I appreciate it as always.
Thank you, Blake. And you're not retired from Blake of the year.
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Okay. It is time.
We're going to do listener FAQs, but we also have the newest member of Pardon My Take ready to be unveiled. He's adorable.
It's Mr. Pear.
Mr. Pear.
Oh, no, Mr. Pear.
Who are we going to take, Mr. Pear? Now, for longtime listeners, you know that we had a gambling goldfish.
We had a listener FAQ a few weeks ago that sparked the idea in our head to get another goldfish.

And we're like, you know what?

We've done goldfish.

They die really quickly and everyone blames us.

Let's get something that's going to outlive all of us, a turtle.

Also, shout out Marcus Paul, AWL, who found the tape of when we were actually getting larry the second in 2017 we were talking about getting turtles yeah so for anyone who says that uh we took an idea or jack we've had this idea for six years seven years yeah it's been a long time years long time in the making turtle racing the first bet ever won. A turtle race in Key West, Florida.
A hundred bucks. So.
Oh, here he comes. So it appears that this is a Russian tortoise.
Uh-oh. Is what it is.
Psy-op. This Russian.
Mr. Pear.
You're adorable. Look how cute he is.
Hank, get in. This was your idea to name him Mr.
Pear. Hey, Mr.
Pear. Hey, Mr.
Pear. He's a good boy.
Can he fall off this, Max? No, he's fine. He's got a shell.
But the cool thing is this is the first type of tortoise that's- Max, put it further on the table. Wait a second, Memes.
By the way, Memes, it is Memes' turtle. Memes is already- We're all the Papas, though.
Well, we're all Papas, but Memes is the number one Papa. Memes is tasked with keeping Mr.
Pear alive. Memes is also madly in love with Mr.
Pear after 24 hours. He's very cute.
He's territorial, Mr. Pear.
That's my boy. He likes to scratch his shell a little bit.
Can he bite? No, he doesn't bite. He's too sweet to bite.
Max, put it further on the table. Yeah, no, it's Memes.
I got it. Mr.
Pear. What I was going to say, this type of tortoise is actually the only type of tortoise to ever go to the moon.
Oh. We're going to go to the moon.
Mr. Pear, you're an astronaut.
You're so cute. Oh, no, Mr.
Pear, did you forget to unlock the door in the Apollo mission, Mr. Pear? Mr.
Pear. Mr.
Pear already pooped on Max. Oh.
He came on Max. And came on Max.
He came on Max. Yeah.
Mr. Pear, why'd you chew on the NOS? He's very cute, isn't he? He's so cute.
He's adorable. All right, so Mr.
Pear's going to pick the Sixers versus Heat play-in game. This is his first pick.
You know he's going to live to be like 40. Yeah, Memes was really nice to us when he came out, and he just goes, he's going to outlive all of us.
And I'm like, what? He's like, yeah, he's going to live to 50. And so, I mean, for me and PFD, I understand.
But memes is putting a cap on your life, Hank, at 80. You, Max, at 77 or whatever you are.
Pug, I don't know how old you are. You have to factor in dog ears.
Pug, whoa, whoa, pick him up. Pick him up.
Pick him up. Memes is very nervous.
He's fine. Memes is totally safe.
And put the camera on. First pick.
Put the camera on so we can see where he goes. Mr.
Pear. And let's do some listener FAQs while Mr.
Pear makes a pick. Oh, he's going.
Oh, he's going. He's going to the Sixers.
He smells the pear. He did it so fast.
He did that with some balls. He's a Philly guy.
Mr. Pear.

You did it, Mr. Pear.

You picked the Sixers.

I love Philadelphia.

Mr. Pear, did you know that in Philadelphia, Max's dad will put you in a soup and eat you?

Oh, no.

We can never bring him to Philadelphia.

No, Max's dad is not allowed anywhere near this turtle.

All right, so I'm going to put a responsibly large wager on the Sixers right now. Let's go.
Oh, they're five and a half? That's fine. They got that.
They're basically the best team in the league right now. Mr.
Pear. Let's say five.
Five is minus 115. We'll go five.
Mr. Pear's pick is Sixers minus five.
Responsibly large wager has been put on Mr. Pear's first ever pick.'s go 76ers come on max this is now big time pressure for you mr.
pair's first pick uh first question valid question what steps will be taken to prevent billy from fucking mr. pair oh wait by the way if you're everyone who's watching watch watch it we obviously have uh mr.
pair out right now you can see him he's making his pics live on camera. He made his pic live on camera.
How Billy can't fuck Mr. Pear? I wouldn't put it past Billy to try, but I think he's more of a frog guy, right? Yeah, he's not a frog.
Mr. Pear's not a frog.
He's very much turtle. We should get a frog, though.
Yeah. Dress it up all slutty just to taunt Billy.
Yeah. Who is the most active in the PMT group chat? Who has the funniest messages? Most active? Memes is surprisingly active for how much he talks.
Yeah. I'd say the text per word that Memes actually says is a very high ratio.
Can't you see, depending on how big the bubble is? Is that what means i think that is recent yeah so what i'm looking at right now it's hank and max or is that memes hank and hank and max and memes are are most active um max has some good one-liners on there yeah i usually am If I'm popping in, it's usually just to stir the pot. Yeah.
Shane is easily... Shane and Pug.
They stay off. They don't...
They send the Dropbox. They don't even like a message.
Yeah, they won't even like it. I'd say the person who likes messages the most is Jake.
Oh, by far. Jake will just hammer the like button on everyone.
And I wish you guys luck when you're talking about bets. Yeah, actually, that's true.
Anytime anything remotely good happens to us, Jake is in there with a congrats. I hate sometimes we do the like someone congratulates and you have to.
Oh, I hate it. I hate it.
I hate it, Hank. I have to say congrats or else I'm going to get chipped for not saying congrats, but I actually don't feel.
Correct. I agree with you.
We got to just stop doing that. All right, I'll stop.
No, no, you can keep doing it, Jake. But, Hank, you and I, like.
Yeah, I just don't want to come in and be like, well, everyone else said congrats. All right, so you and I will do an alliance.
No congrats. Yes.
Unless it's a championship. I'll congrats on a championship, but, like, winning, like, a play-in game, no congrats.
Jake, you should keep being you because that's you. Yeah, that's me.
Yeah, that is you. How long would you have done the podcast at the start with no success before quitting? Oh, good question.
Yeah, I don't know. It was fun.
Like, I think our goal from the start was always just to entertain ourselves. So it probably would have lasted for a little bit with no success.
Yeah, we didn't really know the success no i guess the charts yeah and we also did have that when we when when they couldn't really tell actual analytics and i think it was the first hardball interview and they're like 10 million people listen and we're like that's not possible yeah uh but i think i said this maybe a couple months ago when pft and i were we got to drive back from the back from the Arizona Bowl together and it was just two of us and we had a moment where we're like, imagine if this didn't work out. Like our lives are awesome because of this.
Yeah. Like it's directly, obviously Barstool and everything before that and everything after that, but this has been the catalyst for everything else.
Yeah, it is. It's real.
We do remind ourselves of that from time to time, too. I remind myself pretty much every day that whenever I get down, I'm like, but I get to do the best job ever.
Yeah. When I use my sauna, I'm like, this is the sauna that Hot Takes built.
Yeah, because there's days where I get down on myself. I'm like, but dude, you fucking have an awesome job.
Actually, the real answer is probably if we had gotten fired from ESPN and we didn't have a successful podcast, we probably wouldn't have gone back to our unsuccessful podcast after that. Yeah, although we wouldn't have gotten ESPN if the podcast wasn't successful.
That's true, which would have been a great success. Yeah.
I would say a year. It seems right if we had just been doing a year and like they're like yeah 10 000 people are listening that probably would have been okay we gotta do something different i know you guys give each other a lot of shit that's all in good fun but has there ever been a legitimate beef between anyone involved with pmt legitimate beef i don't i don't think so nothing's coming to mind i i'm trying to think if hank and i have ever had legitimate beef i've never had legitimate beef with pft i've had no beef with anyone hank's just drama free that's what we always say about him no there's tense moments but they're never they never last yeah we get in cat fights yeah right which is it would be crazy if we didn't yeah that would be fucking weird if we just never got into little like tiffs yeah i the only time that it's not beef but there are moments when we're on the road and like breakfast yeah breakfast that breakfast is a perfect like if you call that yeah you didn't let me if you call that a fight then yeah of course you fight but that wasn't a real fight oh dip spit dip spit oh yeah because you yeah but that also wasn't we also we also still don't know who's so we could never know who who had the dip spit next to your seat in the mountain dew container yeah you also because we're all drinking mountain dew so we don't know um.
There'll be moments when we're on the road where we just sit silently together in an Uber, where we're just tired. That's usually the end of a trip.
Yeah, but that's not beef. Yeah, no, we've been lucky to never have an actual- I was mad at Max for about a minute, actually mad, when he was watching the Phillies last year and he spat on me.
But that was an accident.'t mean to spit on he was just too excited and then i was just i you ever been in a situation where you're just mad at what happened but you're not actually like you don't know what to do about it because you understand that max is just going to yell and scream and he's got very moist lips yeah and so when sometimes it gets a little out of hand you said the splash zone you get gallaghered in the. And then I just had to calm myself down and be like, he didn't mean to do it.
Max would never intentionally spit on you. He's just a messy guy.
Yeah, we've been very lucky because there have been a lot of successful podcasts that have broken up. And I don't think there's ever been something that's lasted like over a couple minutes.
Like through a night. Yeah, right.

Never go to bed angry.

We've never gone to bed angry.

And also we've got lucky because our beef guy isn't here anymore.

Yeah, there was a guy.

There was a guy who did beef.

We all had legitimate beef at some point.

There was a guy who just, he basically was cooking beef.

Yeah, but not seasoning it.

Last one. It's Mr.
Pear's adventurous. Oh, dude, Mr.
Pear's on the move. Shell, yeah.
Mr. That's what they're saying to all the kids.
Don't let him go under the couch. Don't let him go under the couch.
Oh, no, Mr. Pear, we're never going to find you.
Memes, how nervous are you about Mr. Pear rolling around here? Not that nervous.
It's very funny. Max just keeps putting him back in the middle.
He's like, what the fuck? Mr. Pear's technically moving faster than Max.
I love Mr. Pear.
I love you, Mr. Pear.
I love you, Mr. Pear.
Who's a very good boy. Is it? Can I boop him, Max? Confirmed boy? Sure.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, he's a dude. Memes? Yep.
Confirmed. Can I boop? Can I boop? He goes in when you boop him.
Boop? Yeah, he goes in. He's so cute.
You want to boop him? Yeah, I want to boop him. He loves you.
Mr. Pear.
He loves you. Mr.
Pear. Give him a kiss.
He loves you. Mr.
Pear is one of your papas. One of your papas, Mr.
Pear. I just kissed him.
I was a little turtle head. Oh, let me give him a tummy tacks.
Tummy tacks. Tummy tacks.
Tummy tacks. Oh, tummy tacks.
Yeah. He's so cute.
We're going to get all kinds of weird shit from this pair. Yeah.
I'm circling back to the fact that you said you wanted to record an episode at an AWL's wedding in Thursday during NFL offseason. NFL week six recap.
I'm having a wedding at the end of August on Thursday, which Pugs invited to and hopefully comes, and it would be pretty chill if you guys came to... Wait, Pug actually

knows the person? ...and recorded an episode at the

wedding. I cleared it with the fiance who

believes Bruce Srinxreen and Avril Lavigne

will also be attending if invited. No shot

that happens. So I thought I would shoot my

shot with the PMT boys. Love you guys.

Pug, are you aware of this?

Yeah, I'm pretty sure I know who wrote this.

Is it a flight, Pug?

Yeah, it's in Jersey. Okay, no.
I'm out. It's at the end of August? Yeah.
What day? Thursday. Just a Thursday at the end of August.
I'm going to say something that's going to make Hank even more mad. I think the only way we can do this is we just have to host a wedding here.
No, don't say that. Don't say that.
I mean, the worst ever done there's you know what the entire history of this podcast is when we married you we married i don't even we've probably told the story we said we wanted pft wanted to marry someone so we've not would not get married to someone i was an ordained minister still am you want yeah you want to marry i'm ordained that's that's the correct verbiage but you could also it also sound i'm just clar said marry someone. That's what you said.
I want to marry someone. PFT really wanted to marry someone.
That's not what I said. So we found two people for PFT to marry.
Got them in the back of a van in a parking lot in L.A. In Ralph's with like 150 people outside the van.
PFT officiated the wedding. Most awkward thing of all time.
I think I left the van in the middle of it. Ever middle ever i can't ever like i'm i'm out i want to crawl out of my skin this is so awkward thinking they were actually getting married then it ended and it was the kid's sister yeah yeah that was actually my sister i just really you know convinced her to do it because i thought it'd be cool worst idea ever very bad so yes i would say that this is also a terrible idea there There was a Zoom one that we did for real over COVID.

Zoom one for real, yeah.

That was two people just getting married.

Yeah.

Married, married.

Yeah, it's just a bad idea.

It's just a bad idea.

There's 100 fiancés listening to this right now that have already turned the podcast off

because they don't want their fiancée to have any ideas from this.

I'm not going to say no to this dream. Eventually we will do it.
No. I'm not giving up.
Nope. We're not going to do it.
Every person that tweets at me, DMs me, I'm just at Barstow Bicette. Listen, eventually someone's going to invite us to a wedding that's down the block block on a Thursday, and we can just pop in, just record 10 minutes during the electric slide, and then be it.
Nope. Nope.
Okay. You know what? I'm not giving up on the AWL.
Big Cat really wants to go to one of your weddings. You guys can do it on mine, too.
I'm just saying. It would be a funny idea.
At Pugs. What's Mr.
Pear doing? We could.

Pugs wedding next year.

He said that we could do a Pugs wedding next year.

Okay.

Yeah.

Okay, that works.

Is it a flight?

Is it a flight?

Yeah, it's also a flight.

Is it a flight?

I'm out.

It's also in New Jersey.

I'll get you a really nice gift, Pug.

Also a Pug.

Look at Mr. Pear's numbers.

Look at Mr. Pear's little tail.

What? 40. Look at Mr.
Pears' little tail. What?

40.

Eight.

18.

Someone should 99 poke.

He's trying to escape because he's so happy.

I just did the dumbest Google ever.

I'm going to do 76 for the honor of Pears' first pick.

What number is turtle?

What does it say? 61-12. I'll take 61.
Okay. I'll do three.
Anyone want 12? I'm sick with eight. Okay.
What number is turtle? Wait, wait. You said 12? Let me just.
It says 61. The four-digit number for turtle is 61-12.
Is turtle, is 12 turtle? No, 61-12. I know, but I'm verifying if 12 is turtle.

I'm not saying anything that 12 is turtle.

I'm sticking with eight.

Okay.

All right.

Everyone say their numbers.

76.

Pear.

If it's 40, I will maybe kill him.

What?

Just kidding.

Whoa.

Just kidding. Just kidding.

72!

72!

Undefeated Dolphins,

Mr. Pear undefeated.

Love you guys. I'm the one I'm to say I'm sane anyway Days are my days I find you shy away I'm coming to be a lover again I'm coming to be a lover again Don't want me Take me up I'll be gone After all day I I need less to say I'm all just saying it But at least I'm willing to wait Slowly learn that life is okay Say after me It's better to be safe than sorry It's better to be safe than sorry It's better to be safe than sorry.
Take on me Take me on

I'll be gone