Michael Rubin, Draymond Gets Suspended, NHL Playoffs And PFT Talks About His Dad

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Speaker 1 See Mintmobile.com. On today's part of my take, we have Michael Rubin from formerly of the Philadelphia 76ers, co-owned it with Josh Harris, new owner of the Commanders.

Speaker 1 We're going to talk some NBA, NHL, FAQs,

Speaker 1 and we got some other things we're gonna get to.

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Speaker 1 Welcome, part of my take. Today is Wednesday, April 19th.

Speaker 1 We are on Zoom today, and

Speaker 1 PFT.

Speaker 4 Yeah,

Speaker 4 so we're on Zoom right now. I'm down in Virginia.

Speaker 4 My dad passed away this morning and I wasn't sure what I wanted to do, if I wanted to do part of my take today

Speaker 4 at first. And I know a lot of you guys at home probably use this show as an escape or to get you through tough times sometimes and laugh and forget about real issues every now and again.

Speaker 4 And that's kind of the boat that I found myself in today,

Speaker 4 where I felt like it would be good.

Speaker 4 It's you know we're recording this late at night, been taking care of family stuff all day and I thought it would be a good escape for me and maybe be able to laugh a little bit and chop it up and kind of get away from the real life situation.

Speaker 4 And I feel the same way that

Speaker 4 we've heard from a lot of people over the years. I feel the same way now.
So

Speaker 4 thank you guys for being there for me. I appreciate that.

Speaker 4 That goes for obviously everybody in the studio on the show. I appreciate you guys being an outlet for this and also everybody at home listening.

Speaker 4 And I know I've talked about my dad a few times on the show, but he really is the reason why I grew to love sports.

Speaker 4 He would, you know, let me miss class and stay home from school in the morning sometimes to watch Sports Center.

Speaker 4 And most of my childhood memories revolved somehow around playing sports with him, going to sporting events with him, or having him prank me into going to a sporting event that wasn't real with him, which it's kind of funny.

Speaker 4 I was talking with my family today and we were joking around and laughing about

Speaker 4 some of the funny things that he did over the years. And that story, the April Fool's story got brought up where he got me out of class.
And

Speaker 4 it turns out I didn't even get the real crux of the joke until just today. The real crux of the joke, as I mentioned a couple of weeks ago, was

Speaker 4 there was no game on

Speaker 4 April 1st that year, April Fool's Day, when he got me out of class to take me to the Orioles game. The real crux of the joke, my brother just told me this today, was

Speaker 4 the joke was, I should have known that the Orioles didn't have a home opener on April 1st, and I don't know ball because I'm a casual. So

Speaker 4 that's what he was driving at. But he was busting my balls when he did that.
And he was a funny guy.

Speaker 4 And if anybody knew him, they knew he was the guy who was usually wearing a tracksuit and usually...

Speaker 4 taking me or my brother to sporting events. We had the van that was stocked with every sort of sports equipment you could ever hope for growing up.

Speaker 4 And he was, he really, he taught me how to love sports. And he was a fan of you guys too.
He loved, he loved you guys. And

Speaker 4 he also loved like all the AWLs that he would meet when he'd go out and start chopping up with somebody about sports.

Speaker 4 If they looked like they were a younger person, he would ask him, like, do you guys listen to part of my take? And

Speaker 4 then he would, you know, go on to tell them that, oh, PFT is my son. And he'd make a new friend.
And he would then, you know, he'd always give me a call and let me know who he met that way.

Speaker 4 And it meant a lot to him. And sports were, you know, like I said, they were a big part of our lives.
And

Speaker 4 I owe so much to him. He was a great dude.
So

Speaker 4 going to miss him. And

Speaker 4 yeah, that's pretty much it. The last thing I will say, though, is

Speaker 4 eye for an eye, well played John Rahm.

Speaker 4 tremendous competitor. I'll make that joke before anybody else does.

Speaker 1 I forgot. So

Speaker 1 it's okay.

Speaker 4 I know some people are going to wonder if it's okay to make that joke. So I'll be the first one to make it.
It is okay. He would have thought that was funny.
But

Speaker 4 yeah, so that's where I'm at personally right now. And yeah,

Speaker 4 I hope you guys will understand. If me, we'll probably do another Skype show or Zoom show later on this week.
Some things might change with the formatting.

Speaker 4 But yeah, I appreciate you guys being there for me. So love you guys.

Speaker 3 Love you, PFT.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah, love you too, man. I mean, it's, it's, you know,

Speaker 1 I don't, it's, it's a horrible thing that everyone obviously eventually has to go through. But I just, you know, I know your dad.
We, we got to meet him a couple times.

Speaker 1 I know how proud he was of this show.

Speaker 1 And, like, that was just so cool to see because I'm sure,

Speaker 1 you know, we're very similar. There's probably moments where our parents were like, are they actually going to have a career here? And for him to see it get to the point where it's gotten.

Speaker 1 And, you know, when we met him at training camp, he was wearing the track suit. He was proud.
And it was,

Speaker 1 yeah, I mean, it was, it was clear that he was so proud of everything you've done. And,

Speaker 1 yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I mean, when you, when you hurt, we hurt.
So it's, yeah. It's real life shit sometimes.

Speaker 4 But, but, yeah, appreciate you guys. And yeah, he was,

Speaker 4 he was a big fan of yours.

Speaker 4 just he was really supportive. There were some times when he didn't really understand what a podcast was and whether or not this was going to be something that I was going to really take seriously.

Speaker 4 But he was also the most supportive person in the world. And he was like, go for it if it makes you happy.
And

Speaker 4 I was really, really lucky to have him as a dad. So

Speaker 4 if you're on the fence about calling your dad today, give him a call. Tell him you love him.

Speaker 1 Permission to make another lighthearted joke. Yes.

Speaker 1 We can cut it out, but

Speaker 1 he did pass away without ever seeing Hank get the lottery ball. That's true.
That's true. It's true.
That's not just a fact. Every day.
It's just a fact.

Speaker 4 Every, every day.

Speaker 1 Hi, yeah. Honestly, not cool.
Yeah. Oh, man.
But yeah, PFT, we love you. You know, we love you.
And

Speaker 1 it's tough because it definitely is like

Speaker 1 we are, we've been doing this for a long time. So we are a family.
And so whenever, you know, something like this happens to any of us, it's, it's really, really tough.

Speaker 1 So, but he did, he, he, I, I remember, I just remember you telling me how proud he was of this show. And it was very clear.

Speaker 1 That picture of him with the track suit was like, I was like, that's a dad who was just like my son.

Speaker 3 At the camp of the team you guys rooted for growing up. That's where that was.

Speaker 4 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 That was a very cool moment, a little behind the scenes. When we went to the, I guess it was the football team.
It was a Washington football team at the time.

Speaker 4 Went to the training camp and interviewed Ron Rivera and Ryan Fitzpatrick.

Speaker 4 I got my dad in and got to introduce him to Fitzy and some of the guys behind the scenes. And that's where we used to go every summer when I was a kid.

Speaker 4 Me and him would go to Redskins training camp probably, I don't know, 10, 12 times each year and watch the team practice. And it was very cool to like show them around and to

Speaker 4 kind of full circle moment in a way that way. So

Speaker 4 yeah, a lot of emotions. I'm going through a lot of different things right now, some up, some down.

Speaker 4 But it's been it's good good to have you guys around, it's good to have an outlet where hopefully we can. I mean, we've already told some pretty fucking sick jokes today, so uh, maybe, maybe even

Speaker 1 the John Rom. I didn't even think of it.
I mean, I mean, I know how your brain works, you probably thought of it like 9:30 this morning. You're like,

Speaker 1 John Rom's dead.

Speaker 4 No, I actually, I, when we were talking before the show about something else related to John Rahm, I was like, oh, fuck.

Speaker 1 Yeah,

Speaker 1 okay. All All right.

Speaker 4 We'll have something to talk about if we ever, if we ever meet the guy.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay. So let's try to make you laugh.
Let's try to have some fun.

Speaker 1 Stop me if you heard this before, but Draymond Green assaulted someone again, and he's suspended. So the news just came down.
He's suspended for game three,

Speaker 1 which I actually hate because, well, one, I don't think he should have been suspended, but two, now Warriors fans can be like, well, we've never lost a series when

Speaker 1 Steph, Clay, and Draymond played the whole series.

Speaker 4 Okay, so I like and hate that he was suspended at the same time. I don't think he should have been suspended for it because he got his foot grabbed, and it wasn't even that hard of a stomp.

Speaker 4 Yeah, he's a big guy, and you probably shouldn't step on another man's sternum intentionally. But at the same time, like,

Speaker 4 his foot was being grabbed. You got to get the guy off you somehow.
I think it should have been, it should have been a flagrant. I don't think he should have been suspended.

Speaker 4 But then I love the fact that when he got kicked out of the game, they just let Draymond spend like what felt like 15 minutes on the court just antagonizing the fans openly.

Speaker 4 That was an awesome moment.

Speaker 1 That might have been why he got suspended. Did Shams say exactly why, Jake? Because, like, if you were, if you're Adam Silver, that felt more

Speaker 1 out of line of what they're trying to preach on like the, you know, player-fan interaction than the actual stomp that credits to Sabonis.

Speaker 1 I thought he like broke his sternum the way he was acting, and then he got up and he was fine.

Speaker 3 Well, Sabonis basically acted like he got the like the

Speaker 3 whatever you call it, the EMT thrown into it, thrown into his heart.

Speaker 1 The fifth,

Speaker 1 yeah, yeah. DeMar Hamlin was watching like hell yeah.

Speaker 1 Damar Hamlin.

Speaker 4 Draymond Green should attend every youth sporting event in America to make sure that he can revive.

Speaker 3 It might have been the moment when they were zooming in on Draymond, looking at the crowd, and just him going pussy

Speaker 3 at the guy that was flipping him off.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 4 at the same time, Draymond looked like he was having the time of his life when he was screaming at the crowd. Like, he, I think that's good for NBA fan interaction.

Speaker 4 It's not good when you have Russell Westbrook

Speaker 4 just finding somebody backstage and a poor little kid who's eating a slice of ham with his teeth and then going up to his dad and calling his dad a motherfucker. That's bad.
That's bad for the league.

Speaker 4 But having Draymond just get up in the crowd's face and smiling and screaming at him, I think that's good. That's the good type of fan interaction that you want.

Speaker 1 Draymond is like, he has like Joker energy, where he just not, not Jokovich or

Speaker 1 what the fuck?

Speaker 1 It's late. Not Jokic, but Joker, like the actual Heath Ledger.
Like, he just wants to see every, like, the chaos.

Speaker 1 Because that was, there was a moment there where it was like, this is how the Malice of the Palace kind of started. If someone, if a fan throws something here, this could get bad.

Speaker 1 I also loved Jordan Poole's face standing there, and he was like, Draymond was going crazy, like whooping it up.

Speaker 1 And Jordan Poole was kind of like laughing along, like, ha ha ha, like, this is actually what it looked like right before I got punched in the face.

Speaker 1 So I'm just going to be on his side here and be like, hey, this is cool. This is funny, Draymond.
Like, good one, dude.

Speaker 1 So it was crazy. It was a crazy scene.
Yeah. Well, that's the thing is like Draymond Green.
So Sabonis did grab his leg. I don't think he should have been suspended.

Speaker 1 But if there's one guy who you can be like, oh, he has a history of just like kicking people in the nuts, stomping on people, punching his teammate in the face, he is the guy.

Speaker 1 So I don't, you can't, Draymond can't like be like, oh, that was a totally out-of-character act by me. That was as much in character as you can get for Draymond Green in an NBA basketball game.

Speaker 4 Yeah, he's gone method. He's always in character.
He's gone method in terms of acting like Draymond Green all the time.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Jake?

Speaker 7 What do you say, Jake? The Jake press release says the suspension was based in part of Green's history of unsportsmanlike acts. So it seems like

Speaker 1 he's.

Speaker 4 Yeah. So I don't think he should have been suspended

Speaker 4 for either one of the acts, for the antagonizing or for the stomping.

Speaker 4 But I am a little bit happy that he got suspended because that means that when he comes back in game four, we're going to get full Draymond. He's going to just be going nuts on the court.

Speaker 4 So I'm happy about that.

Speaker 4 You make a good point, though. Warriors fans can be like, oh,

Speaker 4 the series doesn't count, count, even though,

Speaker 4 you know what?

Speaker 4 But Kings fans can be like, straight up,

Speaker 4 here's a stat.

Speaker 4 In game one,

Speaker 4 it was 105, 105 with five minutes, 50 seconds left. In this game, it was 95, 95 with 5 minutes, 50 seconds left.

Speaker 4 So the Kings have scored the Warriors in the final 550 of games one and two by a combined 40 to 29. So the Kings have just been better down the stretch.

Speaker 4 I think that was David Locke that tweeted that out, but they've just been better at closing games out.

Speaker 1 Here's another stat because it will, Warriors fans will, I think most Warriors fans won't do this, but you know there will be the Trolls being like, yeah, they, you know, Raptors series, everyone got hurt.

Speaker 1 You know, the Cavs in 2016, Draymond got suspended. They never lost with those three guys.
The craziest part, the craziest stat I saw, this breaks the streak.

Speaker 1 The Warriors have not been down 2-0 in a series in 27 straight series. 27 straight playoff series.
They haven't been down 2-0.

Speaker 1 In the first two games, in those 27 straight playoff series, they're like something like 43 and 11.

Speaker 1 I might have my math wrong, but it's, no, that's right. 43 and 11.
It's crazy. They have been, they never get in this hole, and they're in this hole.

Speaker 1 And you're right, PFT, like the way they, the way the Kings have played down the stretch, Kings didn't even play. I think that was the second or third worst shooting night they've had all year.

Speaker 1 Like they didn't even play that great, and they beat the Warriors, and the the Warriors are officially on the rope. And this is another one of those, like,

Speaker 1 I don't, I don't put that much stock in regular season in terms of, like, a team can take load management, all this stuff, but the Warriors sucked on the road all year, and they sucked on the road in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 Like, we, they should have, we should have believed them when they told us they can't play on the road.

Speaker 4 Also, we should have paid more attention to the beam this year because the beam is intense. Lighting the beam, it's it's an X factor.
That is the that's the rally monkey of these playoffs.

Speaker 4 Like, the beam is fucking sick when they shoot it up into outer space. I don't know how high it goes.
I just assume it goes all the way to the moon, but it's awesome. I love it.

Speaker 4 Kings just have good vibes. You saw Deli on the bench almost died last time he played against Steph Curry.
And he was coaching the guys up, getting in their ears.

Speaker 4 They just seem, they're such a fun team.

Speaker 1 They're young. They're young.
They're fun. Billy, what were you going to say?

Speaker 8 Just last thing on the Sabonis thing, that's a total soccer move.

Speaker 9 Like, that's what soccer players do.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 But you can't even the grabbing of the legs on the ground. It's very European.

Speaker 9 Like, that's totally European.

Speaker 1 The beam PFT, I read an article about the beam. The owner of the Kings did,

Speaker 1 I thought it was going to be some really cool story. Like, some little kid was like, oh, wouldn't it be cool if like a flashlight, there was a big flashlight? No, unfortunately, it's not.

Speaker 1 They did like a focus group and hired like a PR firm. But the one cool fact that I saw out of it was

Speaker 1 they had the owner of the Kings, like in this focus group and all this talk about like what they're going to do.

Speaker 1 Someone pointed out that Virgin Atlantic, the airline, they have those purple lights or it might be blue lights that you walk in and you feel like you're on a VIP like club. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And he basically, the owner of the Kings was like, I want that everywhere in the arena. I want just make purple lights everywhere.

Speaker 4 It's smart. And they did that.

Speaker 1 And it does look cool. It's smart.
It looks fucking cool.

Speaker 4 If you've ever been on Virgin Atlantic, you know that it's just a relaxing flight from start to finish it's yeah i okay i wish i didn't know that it was a focus group but i still love the beam that's how good it is it's beam rules it's completely artificial and created out of nowhere by a bunch of suits but guess what it still looks like god's bidet when it shoots up into the sky and i'm still all in on the beam

Speaker 1 Yeah, and the beam, the first time the beam ever was lit, it was during the day, so it didn't really work.

Speaker 1 And then the first time it was lit at night, they had like a bunch of calls to like the police and like the radio stations being like, what is going on in the sky right now there's a huge purple beam so i'm all in on the beam the beam is great the herder i think started the beam team hashtag so like yeah the the kings are true vibes team it's i had a i had a little debate online this morning about bandwagons i mean we're not we're not kings fans but like if you are a kings fan that has gotten away from the team, get back on the bandwagon.

Speaker 1 Bandwagons make sports fun. This is a fun.
This is a fun story.

Speaker 1 i hope they go deep i hope they take down the warriors even though i have money on the warriors that's how fun they are like i bet on the warriors last night and i wasn't that mad because i was like damn this kings team is so much fun and these fans look like they're having the best time of their life yeah the the best compliment you can get as a team is that people with absolutely no horse in the race are watching every single game that you play and you're like I fucking wish I was a Kings fan.

Speaker 4 It'd be so cool to be a Kings fan right now. So I hope that said,

Speaker 4 I hope they don't blow it. I really do because I'd like to see them advance.
But when Draymond comes back,

Speaker 4 when Draymond comes back, game four, it's going to be, you're going to see, he's going to be fully Joker-fied by that point.

Speaker 1 One last thing about this game that should be, because

Speaker 1 Malik Monk and De'Aaron Fox get a lot of talk and Sabonis. Davion Mitchell is an awesome defender.
He was like doing a very, I mean, Steph, Steph will always.

Speaker 1 gets you know his points, but he was awesome. And I went and I looked it up.
He has an incredible nickname. Does anyone know his nickname here? No.

Speaker 1 His nickname is Off Night.

Speaker 1 That's a great nickname for a defense guy. Yeah, it is.
Off night. Yeah.
He's like, when you come play me, it's your off night.

Speaker 4 I like that a lot.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So I was just like, damn, that's an awesome nickname.
That's a nickname that should get more love off night.

Speaker 4 I don't know if they're a team of destiny yet, but they're

Speaker 4 what's what's the JV version?

Speaker 1 No, I don't, yeah.

Speaker 1 You're probably not gonna

Speaker 4 fun.

Speaker 1 Here's a team of fun.

Speaker 1 Here's what's going to unfortunately happen. This is where.
Well, no, no, no. Hey.

Speaker 1 No, Hank's right.

Speaker 4 I am getting caught up in the beam. I'm

Speaker 4 trapped in the beam right now.

Speaker 1 Here's what's going to happen. And this is, if you're a Kings fans, skip a minute down the podcast because you don't want to hear this.
They are going to beat the Warriors in the series.

Speaker 1 It's going to be a great story. It's going to be an incredible story.
The first team to take down the Warriors. The Lakers are then going to beat them.

Speaker 1 And it's going to be all the bad memories from all the series, and everything is going to get brought back up, and that's what's going to happen.

Speaker 1 Like, it's perfectly set up for a team to capture the hearts of America, and then the Lakers to basically have us relive the worst moment in Kings' history and then just do it again.

Speaker 4 Yeah,

Speaker 4 I think we even called that shot when we had Kirk on the podcast the other day, where like Scott Foster comes in and just hands game six and seven to the Lakers.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, it's it's I don't want it to happen.

Speaker 1 By the way, if people haven't picked up the Grizzlies, or sorry, the Nuggets Timberwolves series will probably be the series we just never talk about because it's going to be like weird timing, off nights, that stuff.

Speaker 1 But the shout out the Nuggets, they killed the Timberwolves. Timberwolves, I think, what did they score like 85 points? They didn't even, they got smoked.

Speaker 4 Yeah, my Nuggets look great.

Speaker 1 Yeah, exactly. Exactly.
All right. Other games.

Speaker 1 We should talk about Nets Sixers on Monday night. Max,

Speaker 1 you won.

Speaker 1 The Nets are not good. The Nets, it's funny because the Nets are,

Speaker 1 you look at them and you're like, that's a team that could really use like one or two stars, like a Kevin Durant or a Kyrie Irvin, because they have just some really good role players.

Speaker 1 And Mikhail Bridges is better than a role player, but they built the whole plane out of role players. And you can see it when you're watching a playoff game, and

Speaker 1 they struggle to score 90 points. My question for you, Max, though,

Speaker 1 we saw a playoff James Harden in game two.

Speaker 2 Yeah, no, I scored eight points. And my take of

Speaker 2 playoff James Harden is dead

Speaker 2 died

Speaker 1 last night because he was so, so bad.

Speaker 4 And I was so bad.

Speaker 2 I did it after Saturday. And then last night, I mean, he didn't even belong on the court.

Speaker 1 But thank God.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Coward called him a role player with a shoe deal. Yeah, yeah, he was bad.

Speaker 1 He was so bad. It was tough.
It was tough. Yeah, no.
You're going to win this series.

Speaker 2 Yeah, no, the Nets are like not. They're just not a good team.
I think if the Sixers were playing any other team in the playoffs, they probably lose that game.

Speaker 2 And if they're playing any good team in the playoffs, they lose by 30.

Speaker 4 I also get, I get a little bit worried every time Joel Embiid falls down. He seems, like, he grimaces hard every time he hits the ground.
He's a big dude and he weighs. He's like heavy as shit.

Speaker 4 But when he falls down and he gets up every single time, you're like, is this guy injured? You have to pause.

Speaker 3 You think they should cancel charges?

Speaker 3 Trying to cancel charges.

Speaker 1 I do. Okay, so

Speaker 1 I talked to.

Speaker 4 No, listen, I talked to Titus about this. I think it was in the national championship game.

Speaker 4 And we came to the conclusion that they should cancel charges if you step in front of a guy and put your hands in front of your nuts.

Speaker 4 For two reasons. One,

Speaker 4 it's not a defensive move. You can't make a defensive play if your hands are covering your balls.
And also,

Speaker 4 you should be willing to get hit in the nuts to take a charge. That should be part of the price that you pay.

Speaker 4 If you want that foul bad enough, you'll stick your boys out there and take a knee to them.

Speaker 1 Agreed.

Speaker 1 I just like saying cancel charges because my college basketball team is built. The whole house is built on charges.
So people get really mad when I say that. But yeah, cancel charges.
Fuck charges.

Speaker 1 But yeah,

Speaker 1 the Sixers did look bad, but a win's a win um quick b-ball paul update uh he was electric as usual i think he was three for four he also i'm just gonna read a couple tweets for for everyone out there because he had a great dunk b-ball paul

Speaker 1 we talked about on sunday but he created a twitter account when he was about i don't know 12 years old and uh so he has like the he has all these tweets that are from a bygone era where tweet twitter was just updating whatever's going on in your life like I searched it, and he has a tweet from August 2013 that just says sore throat.

Speaker 1 Like, that's it, sore throat. So he's the best, but he had a

Speaker 1 couple bangers. One was, I come watch TV, go outside,

Speaker 1 come back in, masturbate 15 minutes, do homework, watch TV again, and eat. Tell me if this is not what all boys do.
This is a 13-year-old b-ball ball. These facts.

Speaker 1 He's just so true. It's the best.
I hate the dentist. This shit is so nasty.

Speaker 1 Watching this Harry Potter movie, what the fuck is Slytherin?

Speaker 1 This one actually is suspect. This is actually the first time I was like, what is going on with Beball Paul? He just had one that said, up all night watching George Lopez.

Speaker 3 Oh, George Lopez is funny.

Speaker 1 Be ball Paul.

Speaker 1 Go to the business.

Speaker 4 Doesn't it sound like a screen name from like a Law and Order episode where they're going through high school kid's like social media profile and they're like Beball Paul.

Speaker 4 Yeah, the star of the basketball team. This is, these are all his thoughts.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. I mean, we will get him.

Speaker 1 We will get him on the show at some point.

Speaker 1 I would like to ask him if he just went to DePaul because he's like, they named a school after me because I wouldn't be surprised because that would make perfect sense.

Speaker 1 One last one, he said, just had some good ass spaghetti. Hope I spelled it right.
Like, that's just Beball Paul. Did he spell it right? Yeah, he spelled it right.
It's a a hard word to spell.

Speaker 1 That's why I always just say,

Speaker 1 yeah.

Speaker 4 That's honestly pretty good. And he was 13 years old and spelled spaghetti correctly.

Speaker 1 He did. So,

Speaker 1 yeah, we're going to hopefully do a merch deal with B-ball Paul. I did buy a sweatshirt from him today,

Speaker 1 which means I literally Venmo'd him $100 and sent him my address. That's how he's doing it.

Speaker 1 He's selling his sweatshirts. He tweeted before the playoffs, hit me up if you want one, $100.

Speaker 1 And people, Max said that people like Infilly are seeing him go to the UPS store and mailing the sweatshirts.

Speaker 4 I love that. Can we just say that he's selling them out of the back of his car? Pretty much.
Yeah. Yeah, I like that.

Speaker 1 I respect the grind. It's also maybe a little concerning after a win, a playoff win, like, or like a day off that he's just...
He's filling orders on a day off. I don't know.

Speaker 4 Maybe. No,

Speaker 4 I respect the hell out of that. You've got to make money.

Speaker 4 What's his contract? How much is Beepbo Paul? getting?

Speaker 1 He's making like three, three, no, it's like three years, four million. Total.
That's not that much. Total.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Not that much when James Harden's your teammate and he's taking you out to strip clubs every night.

Speaker 1 That money goes fast. Beball Paul.
If Beball Paul probably wishes he could treat right now, like that feeling

Speaker 1 when your $200 million teammate keeps making you

Speaker 1 drop racks at the strip club on a Wednesday.

Speaker 4 James Harden's like, I'll cover half the room in money, Beball Paul. You cover the other half.
And he's like,

Speaker 4 one's okay.

Speaker 1 All right. Next game, Hank, your Celtics.
That's serious.

Speaker 3 Yeah, so I was officially, obviously, you know, beforehand, I was talking to him, focus on the Hawks, focus on the Hawks. Tonight, I was really just starting to do some

Speaker 3 thinking. And the only question really is,

Speaker 3 is there any chance the Heat win? And if they do win, does that mean we play the Heat?

Speaker 6 I don't think they reseed.

Speaker 4 They don't receive. Okay.

Speaker 3 So that was the question. That question's answered.
In that case,

Speaker 1 you could have Google. No, no, no.
I'm saving for the show. Save for the show.

Speaker 3 I was walking you through my thoughts. And now, so I'm just ready to destroy Philly.
They're b-ball Paul. I can't wait for you to like

Speaker 3 not going to play. He's going to score zero points.
Sellers are probably going to win in a sweep or five.

Speaker 3 Our best friend, Blake Griffin, who actually you should be rooting for, is going to play the same minutes as B-ball Paul and absolutely fuck him up. And then what are you going to do?

Speaker 4 All right. So, all right.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 4 that's a compelling point that that Hank just made. Like,

Speaker 4 if we're going to be b-ball Paul guys, we have to be prepared for the fact that he's going to be going one-on-one against our guy, Blake.

Speaker 1 But I've thought about this. This is sick that it popped in my head while I was just, I don't even know what I was doing.
I was thinking I was driving somewhere and it popped in my head.

Speaker 1 And I was like, how do we get around this Blake Griffin issue? Because I like Blake Griffin more than I like Hank.

Speaker 1 So, like,

Speaker 1 how do we figure this out? Sounds good.

Speaker 1 So,

Speaker 1 well,

Speaker 1 here's where I've come to a conclusion. I think we got to root against Hank, but then if the Celtics win the title, we just flip it and we're like, we're so happy for our friend Blake.

Speaker 1 We always were rooting for him.

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, I'm rooting for Josh Harris.

Speaker 4 I don't really care about the 76ers, but I can't, I don't think I can root against Blake. If Blake's getting, if he's getting over, what's the cutoff?

Speaker 4 I have to have like a minutes limit because if he's playing any sort of significant minutes whatsoever, I can't root against him. But if he's playing like five minutes a game, then I can't.
You don't.

Speaker 4 And I can't absolutely root against the Celtics.

Speaker 1 You know what I'm going to do? I'm just going to root for Blake, and I'm going to root for B-ball Paul. Because I watched the whole Sixers game last night.
I became B-ball Paul tracker online.

Speaker 1 I did not care if the Sixers won or lost. I do not care at all about the Philadelphia 76ers.
I only care about B-ball Paul. That's the same as Blake Griffin.

Speaker 1 Like, I'm just going to be a Blake Griffin.

Speaker 3 Here's a question, big hat. We should do a question.

Speaker 1 Wait. A b-ball paul

Speaker 1 we should i'm trying to make money for you hank we should do a bball paul and blake griffin combined total points over oh i thought you were gonna say like a t-shirt where it's like it's like godzilla versus uh t- or what is it godzilla

Speaker 1 yeah king cock versus godzilla it's ball paul blake griffin the battle for the east

Speaker 3 we'll definitely make those shirts

Speaker 1 yes that would fucking rock

Speaker 1 the killer beast

Speaker 1 Yeah, they're just like on the. Yeah, it's like both of them are just so big.
They're on the East Coast and they're just, they're basically like trying to dunk over each other.

Speaker 1 We have two hoops, so they're both trying to dunk at the same time.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 3 Question big cat.

Speaker 3 Game seven, TD Garden. Joel Enbiads fouls out.
Robert Williams fouls out. Al Horford fouls out.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm rooting for Blake. I'm rooting for Blake.
And that's a no-brainer. That's a no-brainer.

Speaker 1 If Blake plays, I'm rooting for him. And if he does well, that means that's fine.

Speaker 1 Look,

Speaker 1 I got no hate, Hank. I think the Cells is the best team in the playoffs right now.

Speaker 1 Dude, Derrick White is like

Speaker 1 Derrick White is really good. So is Brogdon.

Speaker 3 Brogdon's and Robert Williams is playing like he's healthy. Like he was playing healthy, active.

Speaker 3 It's always scary with him because it's like you really, when you see him play healthy, it's so exciting. And you're like, if he's healthy, we will win the championship.

Speaker 3 But he's like, he's just so inconsistent. And he gets, you know, he's, he's, he's a little fragile.
So it's worrisome. But if he stays healthy, good things are coming.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 I'm staying consistent with my Sixer Celtics. I just want maximum pain no matter what.
And it's most likely going to happen to Max because I just want the show.

Speaker 1 I want the show to have maximum amount of pain. I want like a 3-0 to a reverse sweep.
I want like a game seven with a controversial ending. I want as much pain.
I don't care who gives me the pain.

Speaker 1 I want to drink your milkshake pain.

Speaker 3 I've also thought about, I spent some significant time tonight thinking, again, like I've moved on from this series. I'm thinking about the Sixers.
I'm ready to talk about the bet, and I've come to my

Speaker 3 terms.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 So this is U versus Max, Sixers, Celtics.

Speaker 3 What are your terms? Full beard, no mustache.

Speaker 1 Okay, because PFT, we were debating.

Speaker 1 earlier in the show or early in the day. By the way, we did FAQs back in the studio because PFT, we didn't want to have to do like a two-hour Zoom tonight.

Speaker 1 So we were debating whether they get their mustache. I was saying they should get just this.

Speaker 1 They get the key.

Speaker 1 Max wants the mustache.

Speaker 3 And I think Max would probably look decent with the mustache. No, I.

Speaker 2 You don't understand how bad my chins are going to look.

Speaker 1 Big chins hiding under there.

Speaker 10 Like, the fact that you think that this is the best thing

Speaker 1 is disgusting. That's my point.
I think

Speaker 4 we should do.

Speaker 4 I think it's going to be.

Speaker 4 I think the soul patch is the right move hank and i were actually talking about the soul patch the other night right here it's gonna be soul patch summer i think i think soul patches are making a huge comeback i think one of you guys should lead the charge on that shave everything but that little patch right below your little yeah i'm fine with that but yeah no the conclusion i came to is no mustache okay it should be soul patch

Speaker 1 not to mention that whatever not to mention we should we could talk about it when it when we actually get here but it should be like an escalator agreement like if if one team gets swept swept, you have to shave your face for three months.

Speaker 1 Like, that should absolutely be part of it. No, no, no, that's bullshit.
That's

Speaker 1 Martin. No, we're not doing that.
We're not doing it. 404.
We're not doing it. No, no, no, no, no, no.
All right.

Speaker 3 We'll talk about it. We'll talk about it.

Speaker 1 If you get the

Speaker 1 Hanks, you look back on board. I'm going to be able to talk to chicks and shit.

Speaker 3 No, that's facts. Yeah.
Like, I'm down for a sweep clause, and we're definitely in the favors there, but also, like, I can't.

Speaker 3 Worst case scenario, that can't happen.

Speaker 1 Summertime shy, and Hank's got no beards.

Speaker 1 Nah.

Speaker 3 If you get sweet,

Speaker 1 you need the wound room.

Speaker 2 No, I am not down for a sweep positive. You're scared?

Speaker 1 Maybe a tattoo? A tattoo? Yes. For the sweep? Full bald head.

Speaker 3 Just bick everything. No.

Speaker 1 See, like, this is blue. Like, we'll figure more things that are going against Max.

Speaker 4 As an impartial bystander, Max is coming off scared.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he is. He's coming off

Speaker 1 real scared. Why wouldn't I? Those are the best bets to make.
You got to pay a little bit of a ticket.

Speaker 10 Between Celtics and Sixers,

Speaker 1 where do where would I have confidence? What do you mean?

Speaker 3 The last game of the year, Jolen B had like 60 points, one MVP. It was sick, right?

Speaker 1 Oh, man. All right.
Well, we'll table it till it is official, and then we'll get the whole thing. Either way, the Celtics, I mean, are so much better than the Hawks.
Derrick White is,

Speaker 1 like, I think he probably suffers a little from being on a team with Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum in terms of

Speaker 1 the pub, like the general public realizing how good he's playing. He's playing out of his mind.
He's,

Speaker 1 He had MVP chance tonight. Yeah.

Speaker 3 It was crazy. His defense is really good.
I mean, they just got to stay healthy. They just got to stay healthy.

Speaker 3 We're in Celtics and Bruins are like, just stay fucking healthy.

Speaker 1 Trey Young,

Speaker 1 there was a few possessions where he just basically spent the entire shot clock trying to get the correct pick and roll, and the Celtics were just switching perfectly or pre-switching.

Speaker 1 Like, they were just doing everything,

Speaker 1 and Trey Young was in a blender. He didn't know what to do.
So, you know, that's going to be

Speaker 3 next week.

Speaker 1 Oh, James Harden.

Speaker 2 Just so you know, the Celtics won by 13 tonight, and the Sixers won by 12 last night. And we're, and we're crowning the Celtics as like the fucking champions of the world.

Speaker 4 Well, not all wins are created equal, Max.

Speaker 10 I mean, but like, let's let's call a spade a spade here.

Speaker 1 All right, so

Speaker 1 if you're that confident, then why don't you agree? No, no, no.

Speaker 6 I just want to acknowledge what's going on in your show.

Speaker 4 No, this is what Max does.

Speaker 4 Max gets scared, and then he retreats into his little hole,

Speaker 4 and then he thinks to himself, oh, fuck, they got me good. They got me down in my hole so bad right now.

Speaker 4 And then he lashes out, and he makes no sense when he lashes out. But he's like, I just got to show some aggression to prove that I'm not retreating my cubby right now.

Speaker 1 He just

Speaker 1 goes home and just looks in his mirror, and he's like, don't let him do that to you again.

Speaker 1 You're fucking Philly tough.

Speaker 4 And he's like, I'll show them. I'll show them.
And then he's like, you guys are pussies.

Speaker 1 And then you're like, you don't care about me.

Speaker 10 The Sixers are playing the Nets. Like, the Hawks fucking suck.
The Sixers beat the Hawks

Speaker 10 the Friday before the playoffs started without their top six guys. Like, let's not talk about how good the Celtics look against the fucking Hawks.

Speaker 1 Okay, so make the bet. I can't wait for this series.
This is going to be so awesome.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 Knicks, Cavs, Cavs

Speaker 1 whomped the Knicks. First time the Cavs won a playoff game without LeBron James since 1998.
Who was the leading scorer for the Cavs in that game?

Speaker 3 Zildrunis.

Speaker 1 Mark Price. Sean Kemp.
Wow.

Speaker 1 Wow. Yeah.
R.I.P. 1998.
Sean Kemp was the leading scorer in that game. That game also had on the bench

Speaker 1 Fred Hoiberg on the Pacers and Scott Brooks on the Cavs. So future coaches.
A lot of legends in that game. Zildrunas was in that game.

Speaker 4 I completely memory hold Sean Sean Kemp on the Cavs. Had no idea that.
And also, I do know that Sean Kemp is not dead, but he did get it. They arrested Sean Kemp or the Rain Man's in prison.

Speaker 1 Also,

Speaker 3 Quinn Snyder was dressed like an absolute bum on the sidelines tonight.

Speaker 3 They cut you off.

Speaker 3 He was just standing up. I was like, oh, that's the coach.

Speaker 1 He's realizing he made the dumbest decision ever because he joined the Hawks mid-season when he probably could have had any job he wanted this offseason. So, but yeah,

Speaker 1 the only reason I remember the Sean Kemp Cavs is I love those jerseys. You know, the

Speaker 1 weird jersey. Like, they were the late 90s.
Like, remember the Pistons did it? So, yeah, so many teams did just weird, funky-ass jerseys that looked bad in the time, but have aged kind of well.

Speaker 4 Grizzlies were another one of those teams.

Speaker 1 Grizzlies.

Speaker 4 Love the Vancouver Grizzlies.

Speaker 1 Big time. Big time.

Speaker 1 Okay, so yeah, this game,

Speaker 1 I have two thoughts on this game. One is it was nice to see the Cavs make an adjustment where they were like, hey, Donovan Mitchell, you don't have to shoot every time.

Speaker 1 And Darius Garland went off instead. And so did Karis Lavert.
And Donovan Mitchell actually had 13 assists.

Speaker 1 So it's like, hey, this is actually, it might not be a good idea to have Donovan Mitchell shoot 35 times and Darius Garland not attempt a field goal in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 1 So that was a good adjustment. The second thing, Tom Thibodeau

Speaker 1 is the most stubborn man in the world because he had Julius Randall in this game down 20 with two minutes left.

Speaker 1 You would think the guy who had Derrick Rose as the one seed and they were up 12 on the Sixers with a minute left when Derrick Rose tore his ACL, which would have happened anyway.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to pretend that wouldn't have happened anyway. You'd think he would learn.
And I think Julius Randle's okay, but it's like, how can he keep doing this?

Speaker 1 How does he keep getting away with this?

Speaker 1 It's crazy. It's crazy.

Speaker 4 I mean, that Tibbs is who he is.

Speaker 4 He's not going to change ever. I don't want him to change.

Speaker 4 Because Tibbs is the perfect coach for some team that is middling, like teetering on the edge of being a solid, good team. If you get Tom Thibodeau on your coaching your team, then you know that

Speaker 4 you're going to be great going into the playoffs and you're going to be like, yes, we can do this. We've got Tibbs, great defensive coach.
And then it's not going to work.

Speaker 4 And then he's going to do it again somewhere else. He's just a very solid coach.

Speaker 1 But he's a very, very solid coach. But the playing of players late in blowouts, and also, I mean,

Speaker 1 he runs every player in the ground, but it was just nuts. Like Julius Randall, I think he took a very hard fall

Speaker 1 off an attempted block on a breakaway. And there was a moment where it was like, he came down so hard on his tailbone.
He's going to be out for the rest of the

Speaker 1 playoffs. They were down 20.

Speaker 1 It was two minutes left. It was like even the announcers, Reggie Miller was like, this is insane that he's doing this.
It would, I've lived it.

Speaker 1 It would be, if you're a Knicks fan, you have every right to be upset and be like, dude, if you can't come back in the game, just fucking put your best players on the bench.

Speaker 1 Crazy. All right.
Last one.

Speaker 1 The Suns are still alive. I might have prematurely texted Rasillo

Speaker 1 when it looked like the Clippers were going to, like in the second quarter, the Clippers looked like they were cruising. I just texted him, do the Suns still have COVID?

Speaker 1 That was a mistake. But yeah, the Suns, what we thought the Suns were, they showed up with like two minutes left in the second quarter and then the entire second half.

Speaker 4 Yeah, this was a legacy matchup between Chris Paul and Scott Foster. And all the stats were going out there.
We may have passed around some fake stats about Scott Foster last year, but

Speaker 4 all the signs were pointing to like the fix is in. This is going to be Clippers game.
And

Speaker 4 credit to the Suns. I'm looking at the box score right now.

Speaker 1 Westbrook was good.

Speaker 1 And so Westbrook was good. Kawhi was great.

Speaker 1 Kawhi is literally, if they had a, if they did a trial trying to prosecute load management, the defense would call Kawhi Leonard as their lead witness or their lead testimony because he is

Speaker 1 the re, like,

Speaker 1 what? Load management works for Kawhi Leonard. Well, yeah, but he was also like

Speaker 3 the finals MVP. Like, he's just that guy.

Speaker 4 No, but he was doing load management before he was a finals MVP. That's the whole thing.

Speaker 4 He doesn't get load management. Kawhi Leonard gets system upgrades.

Speaker 4 He upgrades the new operator.

Speaker 1 And it works for him. Like load management.

Speaker 1 If you were trying to say, what is load management? Why would you do load management?

Speaker 1 You would just point to Kawhi and be like, this guy who barely plays in the regular season, then when he plays in the playoffs, is incredible.

Speaker 1 And I rest my case.

Speaker 1 Yeah, what were you saying? Give us your thoughts because I know obviously you didn't watch, but your thoughts on the box score.

Speaker 4 Just my thoughts on the box score. I was looking at it real quick, and I see that

Speaker 4 Chris Paul actually didn't play that well tonight. No,

Speaker 4 I retract that. Washed.

Speaker 4 DeAndre Ayton's back. It sounds like he's fully bought in, and he's going to be committed to playing hard every single minute that he's in, every single game.

Speaker 4 And he's all in on this Suns team, and he's bought into Monty Williams and the system that they're trying to run in Phoenix. So DeAndre Ayton is officially back.

Speaker 4 I expect that to continue well into the future.

Speaker 4 Kevin Durant sucked tonight. He had 25 points only.
And then Devin Booker is a beast.

Speaker 1 And Tori Craig is also, for some reason, like

Speaker 1 he was awesome in game one and he's awesome tonight again.

Speaker 4 As far as Westbrook goes,

Speaker 4 we did say like, oh my God, he's by far the worst player on the court with about, what, five minutes left in game one when he was demanding the ball.

Speaker 4 And his teammates just wouldn't pass the ball to him. Something happened to Westbrook.

Speaker 4 I think maybe making a good defensive play at the end of the game, like, and also getting into a fight afterwards with a fan.

Speaker 1 Like, he loves to feel hated.

Speaker 1 Oh, that was at halftime? That's the best part. It was it.

Speaker 4 You can't be doing it.

Speaker 1 You can't be doing that.

Speaker 4 Also, Westbrook,

Speaker 4 you're a good-looking guy. You're in pretty good shape.
I don't think you need to be going around with your shirt

Speaker 4 surgically taped to your nipples at all point, right? Like, we don't, we don't have to, you don't have to be doing Ezekiel Elliott everywhere you go.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I think he was, I think he was pulling his jersey back on coming out of the locker room. I guess apparently that was a COVID cut through.

Speaker 1 So when there weren't fans, it's like 20 seconds to go from the visiting locker room to the court. Windhorse had the whole breakdown.
And if you go the long way, it's like two minutes.

Speaker 1 So players still use the COVID,

Speaker 1 you know, when there were no fans in the entire building. They used the COVID cut through, but now they're fans.
And those fans will probably say, hey, Westbrick.

Speaker 1 And then you'll lose your mind and yell in front of the little kid.

Speaker 4 Yeah,

Speaker 4 it was a very, very funny video. And that dude looked, that dude looked like he was ready to go.
Oh, he's about it, too.

Speaker 1 He was about it. He didn't back down at all.

Speaker 4 Like, I can recognize a guy that's been in a few scraps in his life. That guy, I'm not saying he's done time in prison, but he knows how to handle himself at 2:30 a.m.
in Scottsdale.

Speaker 1 And Westbrook, I mean, game one, he was three for 19, but he was making a shitload of defensive plays, rebounds.

Speaker 1 And there is something to be said for a guy who's like, I'm just going to keep trying to force it and like make things happen. And he hit those free throws at the end, too.

Speaker 1 Like, he just makes things happen, even if he's going to shoot three for 19.

Speaker 4 I'm sure he's going to be very consistent with this throughout the rest of this playoff series, too. He's back.

Speaker 1 Okay, officially

Speaker 4 by the stat sheet,

Speaker 4 Russell Westbrook officially back.

Speaker 1 I want to throw one last thing at you, PFT, and then we can talk a little hockey and then do Hot T Cool Throned.

Speaker 1 It popped in my head when I was watching Cav Nicks tonight, and I tweeted out:

Speaker 1 who are the top players that you know, like if you know deep down they're retired, but if they were on the court, you wouldn't even blink. You'd be like, Oh, yeah, no, they're still playing.

Speaker 1 Because I was watching the Cavs game and I was like, Is Corver still out there? And then I looked it up and he retired like three years ago.

Speaker 1 And I, but if he's an executive, if he hit a three, I would have been like, Oh, yeah, Corver, he's still playing.

Speaker 4 Uh, let's see, uh, mellow, always mellow.

Speaker 1 I have some good ones that people like, people responded with too, but yeah, go ahead.

Speaker 11 Uh,

Speaker 4 Paul Pierce.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 4 I could see him playing.

Speaker 1 It's it's like it's it's it's basically the guy who you didn't you don't really remember retiring because he never really you know I mean like someone someone threw out Rondo. Rondo.

Speaker 1 If Rondo was in a playoff series right now, you would not blink. You'd be like, yeah, of course.

Speaker 1 The other ones,

Speaker 1 there was a couple football ones. Torrey Smith was a good football one.

Speaker 1 If Torrey Smith was just catching a touchdown, week one, and then someone aptly said, I fully expect Adrian Peterson to be on the colts next year um which makes so much sense like i could see it in my head him backing up jonathan taylor and just being like fuck this why aren't i getting my carries yeah i mean there are a bunch of guys in the nfl that are like oh i thought that guy retired like five seasons yeah yeah like every every year uh matt moore yeah yeah when he would play it's like i thought that guy that guy's been retired since 2012 yeah mercedes-lewis but it's the reverse the guys who you You think like Boris Diao and Leandro Barbosa were two that were thrown out there.

Speaker 1 And I think those two, like if you saw Boris, if if you saw Boris Dia's fat ass just running down the court in this Sun's Clippers series on either team,

Speaker 1 you wouldn't be like, hey, what's going on here?

Speaker 4 Yeah, Big Z might be that way too.

Speaker 1 Yes. Yeah.
Or Verjau.

Speaker 6 Verjao definitely could be in a series.

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Speaker 1 All right, should we talk a little hockey?

Speaker 4 Yeah, let's do it.

Speaker 4 The Leafs fucking suck.

Speaker 4 You know what? The Leafs are on my list now.

Speaker 4 They've made the Chargers list.

Speaker 1 The one game.

Speaker 4 The Sewards. You know what?

Speaker 4 Did you watch the game?

Speaker 4 This is one of those classic events where I think I'm able to outsmart decades of incompetence. Like the same exact thing happened last year with the leaves in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 I did the leafs last year. So you're just.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 No, I did too. I did the leafs last year too.

Speaker 4 I think that I'm like one year ahead. I can predict when the market is going to shift entirely.
I can time the market. And this is just a good reminder to me that we can't.
The market times us.

Speaker 4 We don't.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I feel similar about what happened with the Oilers on late Monday night into Tuesday Because they were up 3-1, then they were up 3-2 with like 20 seconds left.
They lose in overtime.

Speaker 1 The place was rocking and they scored electric. They got a fake goal in overtime.

Speaker 3 Like it seemed like it was over for a second. They got called back.
I don't know if you saw that.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 1 The whole thing. It's just like,

Speaker 1 I can't do this with the Oilers.

Speaker 1 They have to win game two. I'm trying to think.
I mean, the Bruins look incredible.

Speaker 1 We did Islanders' minute with memes before FAQs. He's talked himself into them not being,

Speaker 1 they're okay, they're fine.

Speaker 1 But playoff hockey's back. It's awesome to watch.

Speaker 1 Hank and I were talking, like, this is the best, one of the best times of the year because you just, hockey is just so fucking intense, and there's game after game after game.

Speaker 4 It is great. You do get a little bit of FOMO when your team's not in playoff hockey, but also

Speaker 4 there's something magical about overtime playoff hockey when you don't have a dog in the fight, when it's somebody else that's living and dying with every single pass, every single turnover, every single

Speaker 4 close off sides, that sucks.

Speaker 4 Overtime hockey is the absolute best if your team's not in it, and overtime or in regular playoff hockey is the worst if your team isn't actively in it. Now, I still like it.

Speaker 4 I still watch it, but every time I'm watching, like if it's the Oilers Kings playing, I'm just thinking to myself, man, this would be so cool if the Capitol involved somewhere.

Speaker 1 Big time. Big time.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, it was a great first two nights of playoff hockey because we had two overtime games on Monday. Hank, how's your overtime? Hank, bet

Speaker 1 every game to go into overtime, basketball and hockey.

Speaker 3 Yeah, a little, yeah. I mean, I guess we'll give the hot tip out to the people, too.
I'm going to do this every single night of the first round until both first rounds are over.

Speaker 3 Well, and here's where I fucked up.

Speaker 3 Applied it to basketball and hockey, but in basketball, they don't have an offering of like the game to go in overtime. I did fourth quarter draw, but that just means that

Speaker 1 the queens just have to score the same amount of points in the fourth quarter.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 3 thankfully there was no overtime in basketball because that would have been catastrophic.

Speaker 3 And if they're if they're, we can't figure it out in the sports book, I'm just going to do hockey, but I will be doing, it's round robin. So you just bet every game to go to overtime, round robin.

Speaker 3 So if two games go to overtime, that's a big winner. That's that's the thinking.

Speaker 1 Now,

Speaker 4 you guys, I'm not a numbers guy. Hank, I know you've become a numbers guy recently.
Maybe you can help me with this math here. How many minutes were played in the Kings Oilers game? Because

Speaker 4 there's

Speaker 4 60 minutes in the first three periods, and then how many minutes in overtime?

Speaker 3 Four minutes. No.

Speaker 4 There were like.

Speaker 1 Yeah, something.

Speaker 4 There are four minutes this overtime. So we'll just say 65 minutes were played.

Speaker 4 How many minutes do you think Conor McDavid was on the ice?

Speaker 3 12.

Speaker 1 28.

Speaker 4 Connor McDavid was on the ice for 25 minutes.

Speaker 1 Disgusting. Disgusting.
Pathetic.

Speaker 4 Disgusting. Fraud.
Disgusting. A lot of people are saying fraud.

Speaker 1 Connor McDavid is playing the same amount of minutes as I'm going to just find an analogy. B-ball Paul.
Yeah, B-ball Paul. Maybe a little less.
I didn't want to throw him under the bus there.

Speaker 1 Danny Green, who is part of that list of guys that you can't believe are still playing, or Obi Toppin for the Knicks.

Speaker 4 Oh, Jeff Green, I assumed, has retired

Speaker 4 every offseason for the last five years, but he's playing. He's on the Nuggets, right?

Speaker 4 Yes. My Nuggets.

Speaker 1 Yeah, let's go. Jeff Green is still sneaky.
Jeff Green will be playing in the NBA.

Speaker 3 He's never, he's always been sneaky young.

Speaker 4 He'll be playing until he's 65.

Speaker 1 I love the sneaky young guys. I can't remember who I was talking about today because, oh, Allen Robinson got traded to the Steelers or will get traded to the Steelers.

Speaker 1 And uh, the we've talked about this on the show before, but Brandon Cooks being 29 still is crazy because he's been on like a million teams. But yeah, the sneaky young guys, they sneak up on you.
Um,

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Speaker 1 All right, Hank, hot seat, cool throw.

Speaker 3 My hot seat is Patrick Reed's wife.

Speaker 1 All I okay.

Speaker 3 Use golf. Use golf X, yeah.
So she, she, it was always kind of known that she was used golf acts, just a burner account, uh, always tweeting pro Patrick Reed stuff.

Speaker 3 Talked about her a bunch on the show, but it was never confirmed.

Speaker 3 A guy that works for Nolang Uptron tweeted a picture saying he was sent a picture of Patrick Reed at a game, made a joke about how, because Patrick Reed and his wife went to Fenway.

Speaker 3 The PJ Tor gave them tickets. This was like six years ago.
PGA Tor gave them tickets.

Speaker 3 Patrick Reed and his wife complained about the free tickets they got and said they had to upgrade themselves and were like bitching at the PGA tour.

Speaker 3 And so the no-laying up guy made a joke in reference to that saying Use Golf Acts didn't attend due to the quality of the seats.

Speaker 3 And she replied from the Use Golf Acts account a picture of where her seats were with her sitting with them, like Dustin Johnson, Patrick Green, the guy. So

Speaker 1 confirmed. Confirmed.

Speaker 4 Justine, right?

Speaker 4 My favorite part about the two of them is she's his caddy sometimes because he alienates caddies so quickly that she has to fill in.

Speaker 1 He doesn't have any friends.

Speaker 3 Twitter account is so, so, so funny. Just, it's,

Speaker 3 it's a, it's, it's probably the last. I don't know if burners, I don't know if they're going to be a thing forever.

Speaker 3 I guess people, you know, are always doing them, but it's one of the last great, one of the last great burners.

Speaker 1 It really is. It is like, it's a Hall of Fame, first ballot Hall of Fame burner because she got exposed years ago and keeps using it.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It's awesome.
I love it. Did everyone know that? I love that burner.

Speaker 1 What'd you say?

Speaker 6 PFC may have burner, right?

Speaker 7 It's true.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 I had a burner. Yeah, burners are awesome.
Burner life is the shit. I was just replying to tweets left and right.
Nobody knew it was me. Just getting all these takes off that are too hot for podcasts.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I had a burner person, Young Sound Bob.
It is fun to just pop on and just like stir some shit up and then just walk away. I get it.
What Kevin Durant does. All right, your cool throne.

Speaker 3 My cool throne, I guess it's AI. I probably should have put this on the hot seat, but I watched the 60 Minutes AI thing and I'm fully convinced.

Speaker 3 I figured I should just get it on record that probably within like a month, AI is going to build robots, take over the world, and we're all going to die.

Speaker 3 Like, I'm, I'm, yeah, not to be like overly dramatic or anything, but

Speaker 3 I think AI, like, I think it's just a matter of time and it's been real.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Well, what did I say?

Speaker 3 Like, like, yeah, no, I'm now.

Speaker 4 Oh, Billy called this. Billy was the first person to predict that AI was going to take over technology and then dominate the world.
Must credit Billy and hot taste.

Speaker 9 We should all be Luddites.

Speaker 1 I had that same thought when I saw iRobot, but I didn't say it out loud, so Billy gets credit. Well, you remember the old movies, and now

Speaker 3 it's actually happening.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but I mean, all movies end up being true. Same Prevarian.

Speaker 1 That happened.

Speaker 4 JFK.

Speaker 1 Exactly.

Speaker 1 Gone in 60 seconds

Speaker 4 with Nick. Fast Fast Five.

Speaker 1 Yeah. All these things happened.

Speaker 4 It was.

Speaker 4 Remember that thought experiment that we talked about in the show, Rocco's Basilisk, which is that at some point, AI is going to take over human civilization and it'll become so smart that it'll be able to go back in time and figure out which human beings helped AI get developed and which ones were anti-AI.

Speaker 1 I'm proud of it.

Speaker 4 And it'll go back in time and punish you. Yeah.
So for the record,

Speaker 4 I, for one, welcome our new software overlords.

Speaker 1 I have a poster of AI in my bedroom. Always looked up to AI.

Speaker 4 When I was 13, it was play basketball, go outside, come inside, jack off to AI, go outside, eat. Is that what boys do?

Speaker 4 That's what boys do.

Speaker 9 I hate AI, so if I look bad on the internet, it's because they went back in time and made me look sick.

Speaker 1 Oh, man.

Speaker 4 Yeah, that's what AI did. Wow, this thing's really good.

Speaker 1 I'm anti-AI. Damn,

Speaker 1 this is actually, we recorded this 20 years ago.

Speaker 1 AI is just producing the podcast now.

Speaker 4 So my theory is that Elon Musk, he's got the Neuralink implant in his brain right now, so he's part AI.

Speaker 4 I think that... So many people distrust Elon Musk that he's purposely going on the record warning people about AI.

Speaker 1 so people be like oh if Elon cares about it's probably not that big of a problem and then making AI actually exist because so many people are like fuck Elon Jake remind us to do a takey for two online person of the year because Elon's definitely in the running he he said in an interview he did in the past he's doing interviews everywhere but he said that something about if he saw what come on the show open up the show Elon uh he yeah yes absolutely we'll interview Elon Musk he and we'll just basically be like why aren't you going to sports team team, dude?

Speaker 1 Why'd you take away my checkmark?

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, I'm going to get to that.

Speaker 1 I don't got one.

Speaker 1 He said that aliens don't exist because he would be the one person who would know. And

Speaker 1 if he knew that aliens existed, he would tweet out the proof because it would get so many likes.

Speaker 1 That's probably how you know that Elon doesn't know.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 But I mean,

Speaker 4 he should, he really needs some friends. So like some actual, some friends that are real solid dudes that'll bust his balls.

Speaker 1 Give him the Packers. And just give him, give him some.

Speaker 4 Yeah, you do need a sports team. Be cool, Eli.
Or Elon, just play it. It's fucking annoying

Speaker 4 seeing him do this when he could be spending his money on all the fun stuff.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 All right, your hot seat, PFT.

Speaker 4 My hot seat is popcorn.

Speaker 1 Yes.

Speaker 4 Popcorn on the hot seat. I figured somebody was going to talk about this, so

Speaker 4 took over the internet. This is also like a maybe just log off moment.
Uh, but yesterday, the internet was filled with debate on uh Blue Jays pitcher Anthony Bass.

Speaker 4 So, his wife took a flight on United Airlines and had a two-year-old and a five-year-old, and they were served popcorn on the flight.

Speaker 4 And then, Anthony Bass tweeted at the airline complaining because the flight attendant made his

Speaker 4 25-week this is my big problem with it. How pregnant was his wife?

Speaker 1 20 Okay. Say it.
Okay. So

Speaker 1 I have, I've already said this takes. So if I'm going to get crucified, I'll get crucified.

Speaker 1 I live with a pregnant woman. Pregnancy is very difficult for women.
It's crazy. I'm a pussy.
I would never be able to do it.

Speaker 1 22 weeks is not that pregnant. It's pregnant.
It's about like four and a half, five months. So

Speaker 1 there's a belly, but it's not like

Speaker 1 when you see an eight-month pregnant pregnant woman,

Speaker 1 eight-month pregnant woman, it's like they are going through hell to like even get around.

Speaker 4 Right. So my biggest problem with this was that he said 22 weeks, and then I had to sit down and break down how pregnant that was in my brain by doing math.
That's what pissed me off. Just say months.

Speaker 4 If you had said months, I would have been like, okay, that's

Speaker 1 he did that on purpose, though.

Speaker 4 I would have been like, you're probably showing a little bit,

Speaker 4 but you're also able to get around okay. And there's a good chance that the flight attendant didn't even know that she was pregnant if she's only like what four and a half months.
I'm confused again.

Speaker 1 Four and a half, five months. Months pregnant.

Speaker 4 So just be normal. Pregnant people, I'm begging you, just talk to me in months.

Speaker 1 I don't get weeks. Four and a half months.
If he tweeted four and a half months, he would have got, I mean, he already got roasted. Like

Speaker 1 the guy, there's so many layers to how stupid he is. One is you're never going to win tweeting that.
Two, you have a 7-11 ERA. You just open the floodgate.

Speaker 1 Like, if you had a 1-9 ERA, you can tweet that and just dunk on people. He just got obliterated.
And three,

Speaker 1 listen, everyone's got to parent their own kids. One of his kids is five years old.
My son's about to be four. He would be picking up that popcorn.
If I told, like,

Speaker 1 the kid can pick up the popcorn if that's the deal. Yeah.
And I do think the flight attendant was probably being a dick. That also is.

Speaker 4 The other part of the equation we don't know is the actual conversation that happened between the flight attendant and the wife.

Speaker 4 We're hearing this from Anthony Bass, but I don't know if the flight attendant was like yelling at his wife, like, get on your hands and knees and pick that shit up before you get off this fucking plane, or if she was just like, hey, can you pick up this popcorn that my child spilled?

Speaker 4 And the flight attendant was like, no, I can't. You pick it up.
Like, who knows where the truth is? It's probably somewhere in the middle.

Speaker 4 But for him to go on this rampage and then to end it by saying, like, and

Speaker 4 I'm dealing with this flight attendant privately with United Airlines, implying that you're going to get this person fired.

Speaker 4 You're never going to win that battle on the internet because then, then, all of a sudden, everybody's a flight attendant.

Speaker 4 Or people deputize themselves as speaking for this entire service industry if they're like a waiter or a waitress. And they're like, I see how you're talking to this flight attendant.

Speaker 4 Let me tell you, it's not that easy. And so, of course, everyone's just going to jump on you and just lay into you for this take.

Speaker 4 But it's been a while since we had a good old-fashioned remember that guy, Bean Dag? This fell a lot like Bean Bean Dad. Yeah, or the guy who came on Bean Dag.
He came on his cats.

Speaker 4 Did not come on.

Speaker 1 He was never near his cats with cum.

Speaker 4 But it was a good, it was a good, like, innocent enough internet scrap where people were just weighing in and getting their jokes off. It was kind of nice.

Speaker 1 I enjoyed it.

Speaker 1 It just, it shocks me that he, when he sent that tweet being like, this will go well.

Speaker 4 Well, he's, he, I think he sent it just being like, trying to, trying to tell on the flight attendant and get the flight attendant,

Speaker 4 which is a, there's no other reason to do it. Or maybe he was just saying, like, United, this is bad, hoping that he was going to get, like, I don't know, a couple free tickets.

Speaker 4 But, dude, you, you play professional baseball. You fly for free all the time.
I don't think that you need free tickets.

Speaker 4 So, either way, he doesn't look good.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's, I'm actually in a holding pattern right now to skull fuck. I'm going to have the skull fuck of my lifetime with Air France if they don't fix what's happening with SVP.

Speaker 1 So, people probably listen to SVP's podcast.

Speaker 1 If you remember, when he was on with us the Masters Sunday from the airport, and he got a call, and he was like, I got something I got to deal with, I'll deal with it after.

Speaker 1 His house is burning down, so uh, really like sad, like it sucks really bad for him. He's trying to figure everything out.

Speaker 1 Air France wasn't going to refund a ticket, uh, ticket with he and his wife going to Paris this weekend because his house burned down, and they're like, Yeah, sorry, nothing we can do.

Speaker 1 So, I'm I told him if he wants me, I will not sleep until I skull fuck Air France

Speaker 1 forever.

Speaker 4 This is the worst thing Air France has ever done.

Speaker 1 Forever. This will be a legacy game for me, though, if he calls on me.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 What is skull fucking in French?

Speaker 1 Someone look that up. Fine.

Speaker 4 Look that up. Jake, can you look that up? You can cuss in French.
I give you permission.

Speaker 9 Menage skull.

Speaker 1 I kind of like that. And then what's your cool throne?

Speaker 4 My cool throne is Dan Snyder.

Speaker 4 So

Speaker 4 a report has surfaced, and we talked about it a little bit on Monday's show,

Speaker 4 about a mysterious $7 billion bid that's coming in. And I told you guys it's a bullshit bid.
The guy has no money. He's not a rich guy.

Speaker 4 He tried to buy the Timberwolves, and the NBA laughed at him and said, okay, whatever.

Speaker 4 So there was a report that came out today, and

Speaker 4 this popped up on my phone, and I had to almost laugh and just tip my hat to Dan Snyder for being such

Speaker 4 an asshole to fathom, to even

Speaker 4 reach levels that I had never even really considered truly.

Speaker 4 The $7 billion is allegedly being funneled to Davis, the guy that went to Duke, and now he's a

Speaker 4 tech investor. The $7 billion is allegedly been funneled from Saudi Arabia.

Speaker 4 And it's Mohammed bin Salman

Speaker 4 that's trying to buy an NFL team, getting money into the United States through an intermediary. And I just have to tip my hat to Dan Snyder for, like, if

Speaker 4 this son of a bitch could sell the team to quite literally the one person in the entire world that would make me more upset than if it was Dan Snyder owning this team.

Speaker 4 And that's just levels of, it feels personal at this point between me and Dan. And I still have every reason to believe that it's going to be him.

Speaker 4 And it was Josh Harris and then the other guy, Mitchell Rails, were sitting next to each other at the Sixers game courtside last night. So I'm pretty sure that means that their bid's doing well.

Speaker 4 They're happy with each other.

Speaker 4 But

Speaker 4 if it gets sold to the kingdom of Saudi Arabia, I just gotta, I think I have no choice but then to become, I gotta switch over. Sorry, the Emir of Qatar.
I'm a Saudi guy. I'm a Saudi guy for life.

Speaker 4 I've already got, I've got the whole get-up me and Donnie bought when we were overseas.

Speaker 4 I think I just have to become unapologetically a live tour guy and whatever F1 crew that he sponsors and then just full-blooded Commanders fan and just accept the fact that I've been beaten.

Speaker 4 I will have fully been conquered by Dan Snyder at that point. So I hope it doesn't come to it, but

Speaker 4 it was one of those moments where I was just laughing. I was like, well, well done, you son of a bitch.

Speaker 1 I mean, we hope it doesn't happen, but it would be, you would have fun the heel turn and just defending him and just going like all in on it. It would be fun.

Speaker 4 It's going to be a full-time MBS stand. I can do it.

Speaker 1 You got to get paid, though.

Speaker 4 Oh, that's the thing. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Well, my payment would be just remaining alive. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's true.

Speaker 4 That's a good point. It would just be him not sending his bone saw guys at me.

Speaker 4 Listen, Jamal Khashoggi, he was actually a political activist in Saudi Arabia before he moved to the United States. That's what they're not telling you in the mainstream.
I'm just practicing.

Speaker 4 I'm getting much to be ready for that.

Speaker 1 That is wild. I mean, he probably will get a little more money out of Josh Harris.

Speaker 4 I think I might have said this before, but Kashagi's the only guy in the world that probably hates the Washington Post more than Dan Snyder.

Speaker 1 Absolutely.

Speaker 1 All right. My hot seat is our guy, Stephen Adams.
So they did an anonymous poll.

Speaker 1 The athletic did it of NBA players, and they did like a bunch of different things.

Speaker 1 Like most overrated player, Trey Young, won that, which that's got to hurt so bad to just have that be like every all my peers think I'm overrated.

Speaker 4 But it that's a fucked up. Yeah, it is.

Speaker 1 It is.

Speaker 1 There was a category: who in the league would you least like to fight? Stephen Adams was two.

Speaker 1 James Johnson was one.

Speaker 1 Really? James Johnson, which I didn't realize, is a black belt in karate and owns a 20-0 record in kickboxing matches. So a fair one, but still, Stephen Adams felt like that.

Speaker 1 That felt like his title to lose.

Speaker 4 Yeah, that category was basically made for him.

Speaker 4 I'm shocked that I didn't know about James Johnson. I would have said maybe the Celtics coach.
He's got the experience getting choked out.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he likes to get choked out. But yeah,

Speaker 1 the most overrated player. The good thing for Trey Young is

Speaker 1 he had 14.8% of the votes and other one with 31% of the votes. So

Speaker 1 other one.

Speaker 1 And then my cool throne is me because I'm an unverified bad boy now. I lost my check mark, which at first I thought Elon was actually being a man of his word and taking away check marks.

Speaker 1 Turns out it is a new rule that if you change your name, so I change my name to B-Ball Ball Tracker, they take away your check mark. So

Speaker 1 I'm out in the wilderness. I got to figure out what to do.
I might have to buy Twitter. I didn't realize Billy also bought Twitter.
So

Speaker 1 he bought that.

Speaker 4 No, I didn't. He bought Twitter.

Speaker 1 Twitter Blue. Yeah.
Yeah, you did, Billy.

Speaker 9 By the time this is being recorded, recorded, my blue check mark will be gone.

Speaker 1 Why'd you say that? I'm changing it right now.

Speaker 1 I could hear the keyboard, he's clicking it right now.

Speaker 4 But I mean, everyone's is going to be gone on the 20th, right?

Speaker 7 Yeah, 420 is the last time. Mine won't be because I pay for Twitter Blue.

Speaker 4 Because I'll have it. This motherfucker paid for Twitter Blue.

Speaker 1 I might end up paying for it, but

Speaker 1 I'm going to live as an unverified guy. It's been, I don't know, I've been probably eight years since I've been unverified.
So, yeah, it's fun.

Speaker 4 Is this even the real big cat talking to us right now?

Speaker 1 Who knows?

Speaker 4 I've not decided. I don't think I'm going to buy it.

Speaker 3 Yes, you will.

Speaker 4 The long videos.

Speaker 4 Why?

Speaker 4 Why would I ever?

Speaker 1 I buy it in the first place.

Speaker 4 It was forced upon me. We've had this conversation.

Speaker 7 I'll say I tweeted a clip from Monday show and then I shared it from the part of my take account over 220.

Speaker 1 So it's useful. Very cool.

Speaker 1 Very cool.

Speaker 4 Oh, wait, so Jake, I can just have you tweet out the long videos and then I'll just tweet your videos.

Speaker 1 I can also do them all.

Speaker 1 Who the fuck is watching a two-minute and 30-second video on Twitter? They're part of my day clips, obviously.

Speaker 1 But those are way too long.

Speaker 4 Wait, so if you're not going to do it for the long videos, what would you do it for, Big Cat?

Speaker 1 If they tell me that, like, we got that email from the social team being like, it helps engagement. So I'm undecided.
So we'll see.

Speaker 4 Somebody said that I was making a political statement when I said that I didn't plan to pay for Twitter Blue.

Speaker 4 Is that a political statement to say that you're not going to buy something?

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 I forgot.

Speaker 4 I guess it is.

Speaker 1 Everything's a political statement now because it's just triggered in my mind. DeMar Hamlin's clear to play football.
And I said, you shout out everyone's prayers. They worked.

Speaker 1 And that got a lot of people upset.

Speaker 1 But it reminded me, Billy,

Speaker 1 how are you going to answer the fact that you thought he died?

Speaker 9 I never actually thought he died.

Speaker 1 Okay, all right. It was a bit.
It was a bit.

Speaker 9 You know, like, if you go back, it's like, okay, I'll play the part.

Speaker 4 The clone.

Speaker 9 But I literally, on this thing, I was like, okay, I'll play the clone.

Speaker 1 You play the part, but I don't think he's the same guy.

Speaker 4 But also, like, how can he raise his hands above his head?

Speaker 4 And do you see how fuzzy the camera was?

Speaker 1 And he's wearing goggles.

Speaker 9 Look, let's just see if he plays the same part.

Speaker 1 What if he's better?

Speaker 4 What if he comes back better than ever?

Speaker 1 But it reminded me how much Twitter does suck now because I tweeted that and then people are like, isn't it crazy that we never found out what happened to him? It's like, yeah, we did.

Speaker 1 We know what happened to him.

Speaker 1 Jake, you're no, Billy, you're hot seat.

Speaker 9 My hot seat is the whole Quinn Ewers-Arch Manning quarterback battle at the University of Texas.

Speaker 8 Not only is it over, it really wasn't much of a battle at all. And in reality, in the UT quarterback competition, there was a big dark horse sleeper that no one saw coming in Malik Murphy.

Speaker 8 And they had their spring game over the weekend. And honestly, the most astounding guy was Malik Murphy, who I think has the best arm out of any of the quarterbacks on the team.

Speaker 8 Quinn Ewers did have an amazing day, 16 for 23, 195 yards, one touchdown, just in a spring game. But he looked pretty crisp, but he was running with the ones.

Speaker 8 But this Malik Murphy guy just was throwing bombs out there. And if, you know, God forbid Quinn Ewers goes down with an injury, like, they're in good hands with Malik Murphy.

Speaker 1 Great quarterback. It's good for Arch Manning, by the way.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He should have started as freshman.

Speaker 1 That would have been a lot.

Speaker 8 I mean, plus, just watching Arch Manning in this setting, like, he's only had 15 college praxes under his belt. And really, like, you know, he's got, he's a high school senior.

Speaker 8 He has senioritis right now. He really, like,

Speaker 8 he's a 17-year-old kid playing with college players, and that's exactly what he looked like in the spring game.

Speaker 8 Honestly, great mobility, great decision-making for what he was giving running with the the threes with a terrible offensive line.

Speaker 8 But, you know, this kid's got so much pressure on him, but he's kind of doing well for it.

Speaker 4 He's got senioritis. I like that.
I like that take that Arch Manning. Billy, you have chronic senioritis.

Speaker 1 Just long term. Also,

Speaker 1 you're a long-haul. He doesn't have senioritis.

Speaker 9 That's what I'm saying. Like, he should be in his senior spring, like, skipping class, like, taking senior senior spring.

Speaker 1 But he's in college.

Speaker 9 But he's in college. No, he's technically, he graduated early and and went to college early.

Speaker 1 Right, he's in college. Right.

Speaker 4 He didn't get to experience the senior ice. He didn't get to go on his rum springer.

Speaker 1 Exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Okay, I like that, Billy.

Speaker 1 We're like, yeah, this is actually getting around the time of year where Billy's like, guys, if I had continued college and done, like, a master's degree, like...

Speaker 1 I'd probably be drinking a lot right now, so I need a month off.

Speaker 4 I'll be playing football probably still if I'd gone to a different school.

Speaker 4 I like Arch. I like the idea of him kind of of like lurking because there's going to be some great sideline shots of Arch band every time Quinn Uers throws interception.

Speaker 4 By the way, Quinn Uers needs to grow the mullet back. I understand you're trying to go for a different clean-cut look.
Quinn Ewers has a mullet. You played great when you had a mullet.

Speaker 4 Bring that shit back.

Speaker 1 Facts.

Speaker 1 And your cool throne?

Speaker 9 My cool throne is

Speaker 9 me because I put a lot of, I didn't know if I was going to get it done by the time this podcast was going to happen, but my 2023 QB draft class rankings will be out by the end of the day on Wednesday.

Speaker 1 Wait, we got to do it on the show.

Speaker 9 Okay.

Speaker 1 Let's do it on Friday's show. So post a blog on Friday, and we'll do it on Thursday.
Okay, perfect. This is for anyone who doesn't know, Billy has.

Speaker 1 What was last year?

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was a bracket, but who won it?

Speaker 9 Last year, it was Malik Willis.

Speaker 1 Oh. Okay.

Speaker 1 And then the year before was, was that Chad Kelly's year or is that Sam Ellinger? Sam Ellinger's year. He won that.
He was Billy's number one ranked QB.

Speaker 4 He beat Trevor Lawrence in the finals. Yes.
Huge upset.

Speaker 1 Yes. So, you know, like, you basically can follow along and be like, who's definitely not going to work out? No, don't believe that.
That's the beautiful.

Speaker 1 They all haven't panned out yet.

Speaker 9 There's a lot more, you know, career left.

Speaker 1 Billy, we

Speaker 1 are 15.

Speaker 9 Oh, AR-15.

Speaker 1 No, look. Wait, don't, don't.

Speaker 9 I take into account what the mainstream media doesn't.

Speaker 1 Oh, you'll see. What a tease.

Speaker 1 I love it, Billy. I'm excited for Friday's show.
All right. Imagine where he gets drafted.

Speaker 4 You got to have a good guy with an AR-15, not a bad guy. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Exactly. Exactly.

Speaker 7 Oh, no. That was Josh Dobbs who started for the playoff.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah, not Billy.
Yes. Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 7 My hot seat is Brian Windhorst.

Speaker 7 He was doing a hit on first take on Monday morning from his hotel room in Phoenix, and he had to whisper during his hit because his hotel room neighbor was trying to sleep.

Speaker 7 It was at 6.30 local time, 6.30 a.m. That's just

Speaker 1 a great dude.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 They work Wendy to the bone. He's doing everything.

Speaker 4 You remember when Wendy would fall asleep on the job because he was working so hard? They just, he was, I think he did like 36 hours of television.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he is.

Speaker 1 We actually, well, this would be a tease, but I've been in contact with Wendy. He's going to come on the show for the NBA playoffs at some point.
Very excited. But he's a dog.

Speaker 4 He's got that dog in him. Was there somebody in his room that was trying to sleep? Or his next door neighbor?

Speaker 1 Next door neighbor. Like, I feel bad.

Speaker 7 I have my roommate right across the wall here. I'm not whispering.

Speaker 1 What's his name? Blake.

Speaker 1 Yell it. You wait.
What? Yeah, Blake. Your roommate's name is Blake, and you didn't tell us? Now you know.

Speaker 1 Is he cool? Yeah. You want him.
Should I put him in the bank? Should he be part of Blake of the Year?

Speaker 7 He's an AWL. I'm sure he's down.

Speaker 1 Jake, I feel like this is a fact. You should have told us a long time ago.
You live with a Blake?

Speaker 4 What does he keep in the fridge, Jake?

Speaker 7 He eats healthy.

Speaker 3 Healthier or less healthy than you?

Speaker 7 Probably around the same, but he cooks a lot.

Speaker 1 I don't really cook.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 7 Yeah, he does meal prep.

Speaker 1 Does he lift?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Does he play pen ball? Does he bench?

Speaker 7 I don't know what he benches.

Speaker 4 What teams does he root for?

Speaker 7 South Florida teams.

Speaker 1 Can we, oh, that's good. Can we get maybe just a quick, you don't have to dox him or anything, but maybe just a quick one sheet of all the stats that you could

Speaker 1 have him with the Blake Committee and just try to figure out if he qualifies.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I'll get it for you and give it to the committee.

Speaker 1 Ask him if, just ask him tomorrow morning if he wants to be part of Blake of the Year. And if he's like, yeah, sure.

Speaker 7 That's a, yeah. Then he's in.

Speaker 1 Yeah. But if he's like, if he's too excited, though, he's out.
He's out. He's out.
What if he says no? Yeah.

Speaker 4 Then I want him even more.

Speaker 1 He's definitely in.

Speaker 1 I want to fuck this Blake.

Speaker 4 If he says no, I'm going to fucking give this guy Blake of the Year.

Speaker 1 I'm going to move into your fucking room, Jake, just so I can follow him around.

Speaker 1 I'm going to watch him sleep. Yeah.
All right. You're cool thrown.

Speaker 7 Cool throne, the defending champion, Water Dogs Lacrosse Club. Please credit me and Billy.
The schedule is here.

Speaker 7 Some of the highlights, defending champion, the Water Dogs in a championship rematch against the Chaos in week one.

Speaker 3 When's opening weekend?

Speaker 7 First weekend of June.

Speaker 1 Thanks for asking, Hank.

Speaker 7 Is it the second, third, and fourth in Albany?

Speaker 4 Are the chaos going to have a ring ceremony for their second place finish?

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 9 The chaos are a team of Canadians, and what's really funny is they all run funny because they're all Canadians, and Canadians all run funny because they all played hockey.

Speaker 9 So you see them trotting around.

Speaker 1 This is true of all hockey players.

Speaker 9 They're decent, but they're not going to be able to run with the dogs.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they're skateboarding. They're Canadians.

Speaker 4 This is exactly why I wanted to do the show today. So I could hear things like

Speaker 4 Billy do anthropological analysis of

Speaker 9 muscle development from skating from such a young age, and they don't run right.

Speaker 1 This is true.

Speaker 9 Have you ever seen hockey players like play pickup basketball or even any other type of sport?

Speaker 9 They're the most lethal, like it's like they're only good in skates at what they do, and that is why it's so weird for 20 minutes a game, yeah, yeah,

Speaker 1 yeah, and they don't even look like athletes off the ice.

Speaker 4 Unlike Billy, a football player who's sick at basketball,

Speaker 9 at least I run right

Speaker 1 that's a fact.

Speaker 1 Good counterpoint.

Speaker 7 The whole schedule should be released this week, but similar to like when Schefter teams up with Jeff Darlington, you got to credit me and Billy when you see the schedule drop. So look online.

Speaker 1 Whose name first?

Speaker 1 I'll let Billy do it. No, no, Jay can go first.

Speaker 9 But when they're citing, do Canadians run right? No, you can cite me.

Speaker 1 Okay. Okay.
Yeah. All right.
That's good. That's important.

Speaker 1 All right, I'm excited.

Speaker 1 Water dogs. We're probably going to suck.

Speaker 4 Probably have a championship hangover no we signed a lot of great uh free agents the offseason is that gonna mess up the chemistry though

Speaker 9 no no because we are super team we're not a super team that's the redwoods they got a lot of names but they could just never you know get together and play as a team and what week are we playing them jake

Speaker 7 i think the red woods week two week two yeah so lost also rumor is that they're bringing back the beard garden for the regular season. So if you want to challenge Billy, come to PLL games.

Speaker 4 Billy, should we be concerned that

Speaker 4 the guys that we signed, the free agent guys, they're just ring chasing right now?

Speaker 9 But, you know, if those guys want to work with the team and if they put in a great offseason, I think we're set for a dynasty.

Speaker 1 If they want to humble themselves, I mean, why do they ask us what our ring size is?

Speaker 3 Did they ask you guys?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 I think we just made it up.

Speaker 9 We ended the whip snakes.

Speaker 1 I did just make up.

Speaker 1 Rabel texts me, and he texted me during March Madness. So everything everything was going on.
They texted me a week later. He's like, hey, about this.
And I was just like,

Speaker 1 PFT is at 12. I'm at 14.

Speaker 4 I think if you were to ask me, I'd just say regular.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I literally just made up those dumb. I don't know why.
They could be nowhere near. I was like, if it's the wrong size, I'll just put it on a necklace.
Fuck it.

Speaker 1 So, yeah, we're getting rings.

Speaker 1 All right.

Speaker 1 We're going to go back to the next one. One last thing.

Speaker 4 I don't think anybody brought up Jalen Hurts. Max, you didn't bring up Jalen Hurts' new contract today.
Broke the bank.

Speaker 2 I was holding a sweatshirt during the entire hot seat cool throw and hoping that somebody would say it.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I mean,

Speaker 3 this is... I was wondering what you were doing on it.

Speaker 4 When you see these numbers,

Speaker 4 I think to myself, like, how come the Eagles have the only good general manager in football?

Speaker 4 To put together the cap numbers that Howie, and I love Howie because he's got the perfect name for Philadelphians to either be really excited about or really fucking despise.

Speaker 4 Because you can say Howie like you're about to slit the guy's throat or Howie like, let's fucking go, Howie,

Speaker 4 and uh, and he knocked out of the party. It looks like a really, really team-friendly contract as far as the cap goes in the first four years.

Speaker 2 I don't understand how it works. I don't, I don't understand how it's like physically possible.
It's like 8 million for the cap hit.

Speaker 4 Yeah, we need a capologist on this show.

Speaker 6 It's crazy.

Speaker 1 And also, I think Mahomes now is the seventh highest paid quarterback, which is pretty crazy. Yeah.
It's how fast it goes.

Speaker 4 Josh Allen,

Speaker 4 at the top anymore.

Speaker 4 Russell Wilson's like two, right?

Speaker 4 Oh, no. Aaron Rodgers is two, and then I think Wilson might be three after that.
So, and Joe Burrow is stoked today.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.
He's going to get paid. Okay.
So we have a great interview with Michael Rubin that we taped last week, and then we'll finish with FAQs and the lottery ball.

Speaker 1 Like I said, PFT was not in the studio for that. It was only like 15 minutes.

Speaker 1 And then, yeah, we'll see everyone on Friday.

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Speaker 1 Okay, we now welcome on recurring guest. He has been on before.

Speaker 1 It is Michael Rubin, CEO, founder of Fanatics. Used to be co-owner of the Sixers, no longer.
Is that officially done?

Speaker 6 That is officially done.

Speaker 1 Okay, so let's start there. So first of all, thank you for coming back on.
We love having you on, talking some business, talking some sports.

Speaker 1 Do you think you were the curse? Because the minute you sold your portion of the Sixers, Joel Embiid wins the MVP.

Speaker 6 It's facts. Like, I mean, I said the second I sold, I went out and said the Sixers are winning the championship this year.
I fully believe that's happening.

Speaker 6 I think it was my sale of the ownership that motivated everybody to play that much harder, that much better. And I'm looking forward to helping everyone to hoist a trophy this year in Philadelphia.

Speaker 1 Wait, so that would, if they do win a title, would that I know you're a Sixers fan, but would that hurt a little bit? It would have to hurt a little bit. No, no, no.

Speaker 6 Listen, these guys are still my family. I mean, look, you know, I mean, Joel is like a brother to me.
James is a brother to me. I mean, these guys are people I'm really tight with.

Speaker 6 Josh Harris Splitzer are family to me. Like, no, these guys are absolute family.
The only team that I really care about in the world, I'd say is the Sixers. And then,

Speaker 6 I mean,

Speaker 6 that is my team. Right, right.

Speaker 1 Okay. All right.
So you're still rooting for that, but that would drive me nuts if they won the match.

Speaker 6 No, I'd be so happy. Okay.

Speaker 1 And I got to tell you something.

Speaker 6 It's so much more relieving and so much more

Speaker 6 peaceful to know that I can help in any way I want without 17 people looking at me and accusing me of everything. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 Do you get a ring if you guys win?

Speaker 6 I get a mental ring.

Speaker 1 I mean, I probably would get a ring. You just make your own, too.

Speaker 6 I'll tell you something.

Speaker 6 There is nothing that would make me happier this year than for the Sixers to win a championship. And I think we can do it.
I think, you know,

Speaker 6 the team is really gelling together. The chemistry is there.
It's exciting.

Speaker 6 People are really locked in.

Speaker 1 And I got to tell you something.

Speaker 6 I talked to, you know, Joe, James. Doc, Josh, Blitz.
I talk to these guys as much as I did when I, when, you know, I owned, when I was the third larger on the the team.

Speaker 6 So from my perspective, it just got too complicated with Fanatics. You know, we're now, we have thousands of individual deals with athletes.
You're not allowed to do that.

Speaker 6 We're taking bets on the Sixers.

Speaker 6 We're

Speaker 6 in business with agents. You're not allowed to do that.
We have players that own part of the company in the NBA. We bought Mitchell Ness together with a bunch of players.

Speaker 6 So it was just too complicated. But I mean, this is my team.

Speaker 4 Yeah, was that the main reason why you decided to move on from the Sixers was because Fanatics was getting into sports gambling?

Speaker 4 And is there like a hard and fast rule in in the NBA where if you're involved in owning a gambling company, you can't also own a team?

Speaker 6 Yeah, there were like 10 hard and fast rules that I think didn't work for us anymore. So, you know, the reality is when I

Speaker 6 bought my stake in the Sixers in 2011,

Speaker 6 Fnatics was a small business. It was a, I think, a $250 million business.
The business this year is approaching, you know,

Speaker 6 it's that original business, just the merchandise business, which is one of our three businesses. That's more than $6 billion today.

Speaker 6 Now we've launched the collectibles business. We've launched the online sports band iGaming business.

Speaker 6 And we have such a massive opportunity with Fanatics to build this into really the only global digital sports platform where a fan can do anything they want

Speaker 6 with us digitally. And it just, it went from...
a benefit early on as kind of a business development benefit to really became, if I'm being blunt, it was getting in the way of Fanatic success.

Speaker 6 And so for me to be able to be locked in and focused on how do I create the best experience for fans and the best business with fanatics while at the same time being free to help the Sixers in any way I can.

Speaker 6 I mean, that's winning. So

Speaker 1 then now, are you closing the door on sports ownership going forward? Because that is like every rich guy's dream. Like we always talk about.
You're closed. You're closed.
Closed.

Speaker 4 See, that's a red flag to us.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we've said we had the long-standing take that like people criticize Elon Musk for a lot of things. The only thing you can,

Speaker 1 the number one red flag is that that guy has so much money, he doesn't want to buy buy an NFL team. Like, that's what rich guys should do.
You should buy an NFL team because that's cool.

Speaker 1 That's what I would do. That's what PFT would do.
That's what everyone in this room would do. So are you now, we're going to put you in the weirdo pile?

Speaker 6 Yeah, first of all, I am weird, so that's fine.

Speaker 1 But you embrace it, yeah.

Speaker 6 Yeah, look, here's the reality. I have the most exciting, I'm the luckiest person on the planet.

Speaker 6 I get to wake up every day, go to bed every night, work 18 hours a day figuring out how can we keep developing fanatics. And we are in the first, like, we are in the first quarter of this game.

Speaker 6 I mean, we're barely getting started. We have so much to do to improve in everything that we do.
And by the way, we'll enter new businesses over time. So for me, that's intoxicating to me.

Speaker 6 That's so exciting. And I think I learned a ton and I think it added a lot of value to the Sixers.

Speaker 6 But, you know, for me, the opportunity to build Fnatics into one of the most valuable companies in the world, you know,

Speaker 6 I think I don't want anything to get in the way of that. And sports ownership would be in the way of that.
At the same time, we also, you know, let's keep this real.

Speaker 6 Like, if you want want to have a real talk, why do rich guys want to own sports teams? Because they want access. You know, that's, we don't need anything.

Speaker 1 We didn't need anything.

Speaker 6 I live in the epicenter of sports. We're doing the coolest things in sports.
I mean, I'm fortunate that I get to work with the best athletes, the best owners, the best, you know, leaders in sports.

Speaker 6 I work with the best people across sports entertainment. So I've got the funnest job in the world.

Speaker 1 Right, right. That makes sense.

Speaker 4 It does. You mentioned Josh, Josh Harris, owner of the Sixers.
Do you think he's going to be a good owner of the Washington Commanders?

Speaker 6 Well, first, that's assuming he does buy the Washington Commanders.

Speaker 1 Just tell me, yes.

Speaker 1 You know what? You're a smart guy.

Speaker 6 Honestly, I got a 780 on my SCTs combined.

Speaker 4 Would you misspell your name?

Speaker 6 Probably.

Speaker 6 I think I was drunk from the night before.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Look.

Speaker 6 I believe that Josh will get this done. That's my prediction.
All right. And I'm rooting for him.
And look, that won't be popular in Philadelphia, but I think he grew up in Washington.

Speaker 6 I think he would be a really good owner of that team. And I think he'll work his ass off to get that team to be a Super Bowl contender.

Speaker 6 And it'll be complicated for people in Philadelphia to understand, but you know what?

Speaker 6 He bleeds for the Sixers, and

Speaker 6 he'll bleed for whatever team it's part of. What I'll tell you is, and you guys know this because you have athletes on here all the time.

Speaker 6 Sports is a business. You get traded.

Speaker 6 James Harden bled for the Rockets until he came to the Sixers. Now he believes for the Sixers.

Speaker 6 You know, people believe for the team that they own a part of, and I think you can do a good job, you know, with both teams. I think he will.
And I think that's a little controversial, by the way.

Speaker 6 A lot of people will say, like, Michael, like, fuck you. You can't, you know, you can't, you know, own, you know, the Philadelphia Sixers and the, you know, a team in a competing NFC.
But

Speaker 6 I think he's going to work his ass off to be a great owner of both teams.

Speaker 4 I'm excited about that. And at the end of the day, he can just remind people from Philadelphia, listen, we both hate Dallas.

Speaker 1 Like, fuck the Cowboys.

Speaker 4 So we got some mutual hatred on our side, which sometimes is a better bonding experience than actually rooting for the same team.

Speaker 6 You know what the most important thing is? Josh has one responsibility in Philadelphia, and that's to be a perennial winner of NBA championship. You got to get chips.
That's his job.

Speaker 6 And you know what? The team's

Speaker 6 very good, but we haven't proven shit yet until you win championships. And you know, if he can win championships, you know, and

Speaker 6 build a real dynasty, everyone's going to love that. And that's what he's got to do for the Philadelphia Sixers.
That's what he wants to do. And I can tell you, I still want to help do that.

Speaker 6 I'm still committed to it. And people see that.

Speaker 6 You see,

Speaker 6 I'm still spending time with my guys, with getting Joe and James, who are brothers to me, helping the organization any way I can, because I care about the winning championship.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I can tell you're friends with James Harden because you did a very sneaky thing there where you just erased James Harden on the Nets. That was smart.
You're like, he bled for the Rockets.

Speaker 1 He bleeds for the Sixers. He played for the Nets.
Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1 That's real friendship.

Speaker 1 I forgot about that.

Speaker 6 That's real friendship.

Speaker 1 Just pretend we just memory hold that whole thing.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I mean, if you look at it, the Sixers on paper, they're definitely one of the more talented teams in the NBA, and they should make some noise.

Speaker 4 And we've got Max over here who's a die-hard Sixers fan.

Speaker 1 Max.

Speaker 4 My guy.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 if things go bad,

Speaker 1 he'll start motherfucking everyone.

Speaker 6 And you know what? He should. Yeah.
Because it's the Sixers' responsibility to win championships. Again, when you own a team, that is your responsibility to win championships.

Speaker 6 Each year you do that and you don't win a championship, you suck.

Speaker 1 So what, like, not talking about Josh because I think he is a a good owner, but let's talk about just owners in other sports. Uh,

Speaker 1 the thing that we always struggle with as fans is, like, why an owner doesn't take every advantage they can to try to put out a championship team, whether it be coaching staff, like where there's not salary cap, right?

Speaker 1 Coaching staff, facilities. We saw that report with the NFL teams where some teams were getting like an F minus in strength and conditioning and stuff.

Speaker 1 What's the disconnect? Why are people just buying teams and then when they buy the team, they're like, well, I've done my job.

Speaker 6 Look, I think different people buy teams for different reasons, different people in different financial situations.

Speaker 6 I can tell you, if I were a fan, what I would want out of my owner is someone who had one goal, which is to win championships for their city. That's what matters.

Speaker 6 I could tell you the Sixers haven't succeeded yet in 11 years that, you know, the ownership group has owned the team, but that is the only goal that everybody is thinking about.

Speaker 6 And I think if an owner's not doing that, they're probably not the right person to own the team. Yeah.
And by the way, look, some people say, look, this is a good business. It's a good investment.

Speaker 6 You know, it makes money. It is.

Speaker 1 But I got to tell you something.

Speaker 6 That is secondary. Like, you own a team.
You better wake up and go to bed figuring out how to get chips.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 I agree 100%.

Speaker 4 I think that's how we would run a team. But there's a lot of people, especially in baseball, have noticed.
They figured out that you don't have to be good to make a lot of money.

Speaker 4 And then that hurts the sport as a whole.

Speaker 6 Look, competition is great. You want as much competition as possible.
And you want to make sure that people, like, you want in the NFL, 32 teams competing to win the Super Bowl.

Speaker 6 In the NBA, you want 30 teams competing to win the NBA championship, and that's what it's all about.

Speaker 4 Yeah, and now you guys are getting involved in hockey, too, right? I saw that Fanatics is, you guys are doing the jerseys for the NHL.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Oh, absolutely.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Have you heard anything from the fans? Because hockey fans, it takes them a while to adjust to anything.
They're like a throwback bunch for the most part.

Speaker 1 Hockey fans are incredible fans.

Speaker 6 They're incredibly passionate.

Speaker 6 They care about the teams. I mean, they have some of the most passionate fans of any sport in the world.

Speaker 4 Yeah, so have you guys heard any feedback? Have you started the design process for

Speaker 4 figuring out what these jerseys are going to look like? Because it's, what, 2024 that it's going to get started with you guys?

Speaker 6 Yeah, so we start,

Speaker 6 we'll start in about two years.

Speaker 6 We'll be on ice.

Speaker 6 We are super excited to do it.

Speaker 6 What people don't know today is we make so many jerseys already. So today,

Speaker 6 everything in baseball,

Speaker 6 Nike, is made by Fanatics. In the NFL, made by Fanatics.
So we've been making tremendous amounts of Nike licensed products for years. It's been an incredibly successful partnership.

Speaker 6 We've brought in the assortment. Fans have loved it.
Look, you're right. Fans don't like a switch.
I mean, that's just a normal thing.

Speaker 6 I mean, I think when I saw when it went from Reebok to Nike, fans complained. Yeah.

Speaker 6 But by the way, we got lots of things we need to do to be better as well. Like, we're always pushing the envelope.

Speaker 6 And I can tell you, we make today about 70% of the hockey jerseys in the market today. And those fans love that jersey.

Speaker 6 If you look at the customer satisfaction ratings, what do they say about the jersey? They love the jerseys. It's a better jersey than what was out there previously.
But we got to keep getting better.

Speaker 6 There's things that we haven't done well.

Speaker 6 Like when I look at ourselves, I don't say, like, here's what we do well. I'm like, here's what we suck at, and here's what we need to be better at.
And we're thinking about that every day.

Speaker 1 So we were talking before about

Speaker 1 the sales in terms of different championship teams. I don't want you to trash any team, but can you give me a team or college team or pro that you were shocked by where you're like, oh my God,

Speaker 1 look at how much, how rabid this fan base was?

Speaker 6 What you generally look for is teams with great heritage that haven't won for a long time.

Speaker 6 So like if you want to say what would be an incredible hot market, people are probably going to hate me for saying this. This is not who I'm rooting for.

Speaker 6 This is who would be great for Fnatic's business, Dallas Cowboys.

Speaker 1 That would be incredible. Now, I'm a

Speaker 6 Eagles are my guys. You know, that's, you know, lots of friends who play on the team.
Always rooting for the Eagles was

Speaker 6 happy they got to the Super Bowl, but they didn't get it done this year. I'm looking forward to them getting it done next year.

Speaker 1 Yeah. So what would be a team, though, that we didn't expect? Like, or maybe it's college.
But you're like, oh, wow, that was shock.

Speaker 6 I'll tell you, give you some examples of teams you wouldn't expect. Like, the Buffalo Bills would be spectacular for business.
Yeah. Because they have great heritage.

Speaker 6 That could be a shocker to you.

Speaker 4 I think everybody in Buffalo would buy $500 worth of merchandise.

Speaker 1 Like the Browns?

Speaker 6 Actually, think about everyone who grew up in Buffalo or has any connectivity in Buffalo would buy $500 in merchandise.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 The Browns. The Browns are good.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Lions. Yeah.

Speaker 6 Steelers.

Speaker 6 It's been so long for the Lions.

Speaker 1 I know.

Speaker 6 I'm not sure that I know that answer.

Speaker 1 But it's fascinating to me because then you also have the big, big city.

Speaker 1 Would you rather have the Bills win the first one forever or like the Giants? I would assume the Giants still would trump everything.

Speaker 6 Bills would be bigger. Really? Yeah.
Now, here's the interesting thing. If a team wins perpetually, like the Patriots did,

Speaker 6 even eventually, there's only like I would joke with Robert and Jonathan Kraft, like there's only so many times someone can buy an AFC championship t-shirt.

Speaker 1 Closet like a T-shirt.

Speaker 6 I mean, they won 10 AFC championships. I mean, you can only have so many AFC championship t-shirts.

Speaker 6 Now, I think you should have unlimited, but that's the reality.

Speaker 4 If you were to design like your perfect year for maximum sales, would it be like the classic Lakers, Cowboys, Yankees fan?

Speaker 1 Well, it would be like

Speaker 6 for basketball, it has to be the Sixers, period. End of story.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And by the way, we have wearing one for a long time for this.

Speaker 6 And by the way, I'm willing to take all the business down.

Speaker 6 Whatever the best outcome would be in basketball, I don't give a shit. It's got to be the Sixers.
That's the only way I can think.

Speaker 4 But baseball, probably the Yankees.

Speaker 6 Baseball, Yankees would be as incredible. Yankees and Cubs, you'd like either one of those teams to win every year.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. I keep guessing.

Speaker 4 So, hockey, what would be the biggest market in hockey? Probably the maybe the Maple Leaves?

Speaker 6 Maple Leaves would be insane. Yeah.
It would be insane.

Speaker 1 Red Wings, maybe.

Speaker 6 Red rings would be great. Yeah.
Your guys, Black Hawks.

Speaker 1 Black Hawks, yeah. They wanted to be back in a long time.

Speaker 6 Yeah, but I'm rooting for you. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 I feel like everybody in Washington

Speaker 4 got some capitalist merch, too.

Speaker 1 When Capital's great standing cat, yeah, they were great.

Speaker 4 They were great. A lot of OV jerseys.
They were great. Yeah, what about Slam Ball? I heard that you're investing in Slam Ball.
Which Slam Ball team would move most verses?

Speaker 6 You know, I'm going to have to, you know, like, honestly, Big Cat's my advisor for Slam Ball, so he would know who the best teams would be.

Speaker 1 Who would that be, Big Cat? It's the Dragons.

Speaker 1 Jake, quick, hurry up. Find me something.

Speaker 1 The slammers.

Speaker 4 The bruisers. The bruisers.

Speaker 1 The bruisers are great.

Speaker 1 Jake, Jake, Jake.

Speaker 7 Bouncers, Diablos,

Speaker 1 Robles, Slashers, and Steel. I misspoke.
When I said dragons, I said Diablo.

Speaker 1 If a guy tries to bury me, then he can't say shit, but he can't even name a team.

Speaker 1 Hey,

Speaker 1 speaking of burying you.

Speaker 1 But I actually like to be buried. Yeah, yeah.
All right. So I'll bury you.
So your parties are legendary. Yeah.

Speaker 1 The one July 4th in the Hamptons, legendary. What's the policy on like extra plus twos? Yeah, so

Speaker 1 I'm not speaking on anyone's behalf. I'm just trying to address this.
Okay, yeah.

Speaker 6 Ask me the question real quick.

Speaker 1 All right, so Dave was trying to go to your party. He got invited to your party.

Speaker 1 I think the story is that

Speaker 1 his girlfriend, lovely

Speaker 1 woman, Silvana.

Speaker 1 They had the answer to Dave and Silvana, and then Silvana's sister and her boyfriend, they wanted two more tickets that could all go, and you said absolutely not, Dave, and spit in his face.

Speaker 6 That's close. Okay.
Okay, so let me give you a story.

Speaker 1 So you did spit in his face. No, no.
Let me give you the real story.

Speaker 6 So, first, let me start with saying, I love Dave.

Speaker 1 Yes. Okay.

Speaker 6 All love for Dave. He was a dumbass.

Speaker 1 Okay. Oh.

Speaker 6 He was a dumbass. Okay.
Okay. So that party has 350 people that come.

Speaker 6 Dave was lucky to be invited.

Speaker 1 Ooh.

Speaker 1 It's not going to go out.

Speaker 1 Dave was lucky to be invited.

Speaker 6 We have, again, 350 people. You know who comes to this party.

Speaker 6 And Dave, and by the way, we call, we only invite 400 people. 350 people come.
Like, basically, everyone who's invited comes to the party. Yeah.
And we reached out and said, hey, are you coming?

Speaker 6 He said, well, I need to bring three people with me. There was not, by the way, Jay-Z and Beyonce don't bring three people with them.

Speaker 1 Drake's not bringing three people with him.

Speaker 6 And so I love Dave, and I say this with lots of love for Dave. Like, we were like, is he serious? And then I actually, someone sent me, my kid sent me, because

Speaker 6 she watches, Kylie watches PFFs.

Speaker 1 Yeah, with

Speaker 1 David. With Josh.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 And she sent me the clip of Dave saying that I was dead to him and he was never coming to my party again. So we didn't invite him last year.

Speaker 1 Oh. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So we got to fix this. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He's out for the win. No, no, no.
We got to fix this. Yeah.
You got to invite him this year. It's not happening.
Why? Listen.

Speaker 1 Put him on for four. Yeah.

Speaker 6 Listen, let me tell you what I did with the White Party this year. At the end of the year, we said, who were the 75 people that added the least value? We cut them.
It was like a football team.

Speaker 4 Do you guys like grade people on party performance?

Speaker 1 We do.

Speaker 4 How do you do that? What makes for a good party guest?

Speaker 6 By the way, you want someone who's people are going to love being around, who are going to be the life of the party, who are going to add value there.

Speaker 6 By the way, we have, I mean, I had someone offer me a million dollars to get two people in last year to the party. They said, I'll donate a million dollars to your charity.

Speaker 6 I'm like, you can't buy your way into this party.

Speaker 4 Why is this party so cool?

Speaker 1 Now I want to go. If you've seen the pictures, it's basically.

Speaker 1 It's pretty much like everybody.

Speaker 6 But Dave Davis invited to come with his girlfriend, but it wasn't good enough. He had to bring, he was bringing his grandma.

Speaker 1 No, no, it was.

Speaker 1 Listen, I understand the spot he was in.

Speaker 1 If your girlfriend's sister wants to come too, it's tough. And they're familiar.
There's going to be people at home.

Speaker 4 Okay. I would bring so much value to this party.
I get beer pong started at like 4 o'clock.

Speaker 6 The party starts at 5 p.m. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I'd show up early. That's how good of a guest I would be.

Speaker 6 So I don't know if you guys know this year at the party, unfortunately, we've had... With only 350 people coming, we've had some significant accidents at the party over the past two years.

Speaker 6 The first accident that happened was,

Speaker 6 I want to make sure I get this right. Charlie D'Amelio sliced Dixie D'Amelio's finger trying to cut a bagel at three o'clock in the morning.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 6 That led to several stitches. That was year one's accident.

Speaker 6 So we actually thought we would be really prepared and we brought in medical staff for the party because even though there were 350 people, we had a whole medical SWAT team there.

Speaker 6 That's crazy. So I went to the bathroom.
So after like 12 people performed, you know,

Speaker 6 just like this incredible, like just natural performances that broke out of the party, Um,

Speaker 6 I went to the boys' room, and I was new. I was turning 50 this year.
And so, my 50th birthday was coming a couple weeks up, which was pretty depressing to me.

Speaker 6 And so, Joelle and Beads come running out to me, Michael, you got to come here, you got to come here.

Speaker 1 Uh, Camille got hurt.

Speaker 6 This is my girlfriend.

Speaker 1 He goes, Camille got really hurt. I'm like,

Speaker 6 I'm like, Joe, like, like, stop. Like, I'm not falling for this.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 6 Like, I'm like, like, no, you're not tricking me. And then they're like, you got to go upstairs.

Speaker 6 And all of a sudden, she, we just had our third, my third daughter our second daughter together congratulations a few weeks earlier thank you and so she fainted um now i would say the truth be told that she tried to drink with the boys and wasn't able to handle so

Speaker 6 she's still going with fainting it's a it's a real debate within the the rubin household i i i would probably side with you on this yeah this is no matter she actually gets mad at me when i tell you this she clearly she's going with a faint i'm going with but anyway she she she fell over and hurt herself very badly.

Speaker 6 So I left, I had to leave at 12.15, the party. Why'd you have to leave? Because she had to go to the hospital.
They thought she had to go to the party.

Speaker 1 She's right at the medical tent. The medical tent.
I'm like, hey, send them off. So this is my party.
I'm going to be honest with you.

Speaker 6 So the EMT doctor comes in the room. Joel was in the room.
And they're like, you know, her neck could be broken. I'm like, she's fine.
Give her a drink.

Speaker 1 Like, don't worry about it. I'm like, she's good.

Speaker 6 Like, put her back in the game. Who cares?

Speaker 6 And Joal screamed, like, I've had this happen.

Speaker 1 You've got to go to the hospital right now.

Speaker 6 And someone else is screaming at me. And so obviously I was like, do I leave my 300 friends here or do I

Speaker 6 do I go to the hospital and be a good guy? And so I made the

Speaker 6 decision I had to make.

Speaker 1 All right. So that was probably bad.
I don't know if it's the right decision. No, it was in the

Speaker 1 long term. Now I'm in the hospital.

Speaker 6 And like, literally, as I'm getting there, someone else shows up, like, one of our friends. And I'm like, Camille's like, why are you here?

Speaker 6 She's like, oh, my God, when Dre got up and started performing, I jumped into her speaker. She had blood coming out of her.

Speaker 1 Oh, my God. She cracked her head open.

Speaker 6 So literally, I'm in the hospital, and I've got Camille there waiting.

Speaker 6 I've got this other friend of mine, BJ, there, who's got blood squirting out of her head, who needed like 20 stitches in her head.

Speaker 6 So we've now had, with a total of 350 people, we've had like three real aggressive two years.

Speaker 1 That's good to do the party at the hospital.

Speaker 6 Well, that would be a good idea. That would be a good idea.
But so we've now, so we're now increasing the medical staff this year. But the party starts at 5 p.m.
It goes till 4 a.m.

Speaker 6 And I came back from the hospital. I, of course, left Camille in the hospital once I knew she was going to leave.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, right. Yeah.
I'm like,

Speaker 1 I'm coming back in hot.

Speaker 6 I'm FaceTiming Travis. I'm like, Trav, I'm coming back in hot.

Speaker 6 And there were about 200 people left when I got back and we went into high gear from the two to two to four a.m strong this year that's the mark of a good party if if at least five percent of your guests go to the hospital afterwards you did your job well i think we're right now we're running a half a percent in casual and you can bump those numbers needing medical assistance yeah yeah get like a bounce we also

Speaker 6 at this point we had we also had a nameless person who was drunk out of control by his friends we had to get thrown out and then try to sneak back in as waiter who got thrown out last year oh wow but we have 90 security at the party like this is like i would imagine it's a lot of very famous people.

Speaker 6 Like, people try to sneak in through the bushes. People try to come in.
It's crazy the way people try to do it. And we do.

Speaker 1 Maybe one year we do. Dave should try to sneak in this year.
Well, no, we should do a deal where it's like, you know, we'll try to sneak in. We're going to test your security for you.
Do it.

Speaker 1 So you can tell your security guards, like, look, these guys are trying to sneak in, so don't

Speaker 1 hurt them. But let's see how our security options are.
It's too sweet to hurt. Yeah.
Come on.

Speaker 1 You should try. I'll just be rolling on the ground.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 That, I mean, yeah, you should invite Billy to this party.

Speaker 1 That would be funny. He would ruin your whole party.

Speaker 4 My technique, I would break in early. I would break in like a week early, like inside man.

Speaker 6 So we had that this year.

Speaker 6 People were hiding in the bushes, like off the beach, trying to crawl in. We saw that.
That was like a one o'clock catch back.

Speaker 4 They tunnel in like their little chapo trying to get into the party.

Speaker 6 It's literally, you haven't seen a thing like this.

Speaker 1 I've never seen anything like this.

Speaker 6 By at our Super Bowl party this year, which we'd love to have you guys at and Dave at. Very welcome.

Speaker 1 Oh, wow. Dave gets invited to the beach party.

Speaker 1 He's invited to the Super ball party um we we we like that we had um we had um drake at that one too or drake was there yeah

Speaker 6 he was there and um at that party we had i kept saying to our guys people are going to try sneaking like crazy and we had it was an outside party we had it like you know again 50 60 security and there he kept saying michael you're being ridiculous like like you like this is not the white party like it's gonna be fine they had 150 people they called trying to sneak into the super ball party this year oh man we're very skinny we could we could definitely get i would like you to try yeah Yeah, we're going to try.

Speaker 1 Both parties. You don't know when.

Speaker 1 Both parties. You don't know when.
What Super Bowl party I want you guys at?

Speaker 4 Okay, yeah, I'll go to that one with the other one.

Speaker 1 He does not want us to. The other one,

Speaker 4 I think he wants us to try to sneak in so he can arrest us.

Speaker 6 One party is at my house where there's a space constraint. You can only have 350 people.

Speaker 1 That's all that fit.

Speaker 6 One party is in Vegas and was in Arizona outside.

Speaker 4 It's fit our 1100. So how do you grade a party guest? You said like on value added to the party.

Speaker 1 It sounds like you're giving.

Speaker 6 I say this now seriously. Like it's actually super awkward awkward because you have so many people that you're boys with, that you're friends with, who want to come.

Speaker 6 And the issue is we have space for 350 people. So, like, at the end of the day, we're trying to curate the best 350 people.

Speaker 1 There's a lot of stress. You're basically throwing a wedding every year.
We do. Yeah.
Yeah. That's way more stressful.

Speaker 6 It's way more stressful than the wedding. Yeah.
Because the wedding, you only have like twice the amount of people trying to come.

Speaker 1 And also someone like not getting invited to a wedding. Like, when someone doesn't invite me to a wedding, I'm like, good, I don't have to like spend money and go to this.

Speaker 6 I'm just thinking, good, I don't depression.

Speaker 1 Yeah, right, right.

Speaker 4 What's the seating situation like? Are there enough couches or are people just standing the whole time?

Speaker 6 I mean, it's mostly standing until you get out of the street.

Speaker 1 I'm out. Oh, I'm out.

Speaker 1 It probably sounds shit.

Speaker 6 By the way, it's got four. We start with everyone's outside

Speaker 6 on the decks and on the beach, and then we go downstairs for dinner. There's a seating for dinner, actually.
I don't know.

Speaker 4 There's the roof

Speaker 6 performances start. Then we go into a nightclub that we have built.

Speaker 1 Oh, that sounds pretty funny.

Speaker 1 That does have a lot of seating.

Speaker 4 This probably explains the difference between us and you.

Speaker 4 If I were... in your position, I would probably be retired by now.

Speaker 4 Are you ever going to retire from anything? Or is your life just like this is what you want to do for the rest of your life? You want to be building businesses? You want to be in the action?

Speaker 4 Or do you see a time where you're just like, you know what? I've done pretty well for myself. I think I'll just go live on a beach.

Speaker 6 0.00000 chance of ever retiring.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 6 Zero chance of ever slowing down.

Speaker 1 I fucking love this.

Speaker 6 I have a blast. Like, I'm so lucky to do what I do.
And by the way, I'm going to be doing one thing, which is building fanatics for the rest of my life.

Speaker 6 I mean, this is, you know, I'm the luckiest person on the planet to get to work with so many, you know, incredible athletes, entertainers, owners,

Speaker 6 league executives.

Speaker 6 Like, like, I've got the greatest job in the world. Like, if I slowed down, I would die.

Speaker 4 And so I love it. Like a shark, yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 Like, I got to keep doing this.

Speaker 1 There's nothing, like,

Speaker 6 maybe, maybe,

Speaker 1 I delude myself because I tell myself that someday I would like to retire.

Speaker 1 What would you do? I don't know. Just hang out? What would you do?

Speaker 4 Bet on sports. I would probably do the exact same thing that I do all day, every day if I was retired.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'd wake up. I'd probably try to start getting in shape.
I would maybe try to live near a horse track. You got a little work to do.
Yeah, I got a little work to do. I know.

Speaker 1 Listen, I would live near a horse track so I could gamble on horses during the day. And then at night, I would watch the games and gamble on those games.

Speaker 6 So I really believe this, and I've seen it happen time after time. I think retirement is basically you're saying you want to die.
And I think, you know, for me, for someone like me, I retire.

Speaker 6 I might as well just say,

Speaker 6 I'm going to be dead. Because my brain works with activity.
You know, yesterday morning, I don't even know where I was yesterday.

Speaker 6 I mean, yeah, like I work 18 hours a day, seven days a week, grind myself.

Speaker 1 And I love it.

Speaker 6 And I grind like crazy. And I wake up every day excited.
And then I go to bed and I'm exhausted. And I wake up three hours later, every day.
I wake up three hours after I go to bed.

Speaker 6 I'm like, okay, I've got to get one or two more hours of sleep just so I don't kill myself. But I need four or five hours, not three per day.

Speaker 1 But you also do enjoy your life a lot because, like, I don't know, every other week, I'll like pop on your Instagram stories. You'll be on a yacht.
No. No.
How many yachts this year?

Speaker 6 I was.

Speaker 1 It's a great question. How many yacht vacations this year, Michael? Two.

Speaker 1 Two. Two?

Speaker 6 Listen, everything's public.

Speaker 1 Wait, is that 2023?

Speaker 6 That's 2022, baby. Not one yet.

Speaker 6 And by the way, I hosted a great party on my boat the day before New Year's where lots of people that are important to me were there.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 But probably some of those yacht trips, you don't count as a vacation.

Speaker 1 They look

Speaker 4 yacht trips.

Speaker 6 The holiday yacht trip, I'd say, is vacation. I've got lots of people I work with there, lots of people at sports and entertainment.
And by the way, we're always talking about ideas.

Speaker 6 Like a lot of things, like you got to realize the way we build our business, like I have so many people around me that I learn from, that I, you know, that I.

Speaker 6 gain information from that helps me to think about how to build our business better.

Speaker 6 So like if you think about how we bought Mitchell Ness, that was like an organic conversation that I was having with Jay-Z about, you know, how people, you know, I was basically, you know, because we own lids, and I was basically talking about how do we make headwear more and more relevant each year.

Speaker 6 And he was telling me, like, you're thinking about it the wrong way.

Speaker 6 You've got to make sure that, you know, people are, you know, the way you get dressed is like people put on their jeans, they put on their hoodie, they put on their hat, that's part of your wardrobe.

Speaker 6 Like, don't think about

Speaker 6 a hat as being, you know,

Speaker 6 not part of your wardrobe. And then it's like, by the way, we should buy Mitchell Ness.
And sure enough, you know,

Speaker 6 we bought Mitchell Ness with Jay-Z, with Little Baby, with Meek, with LeBron, with KD, with,

Speaker 6 you know, Joelle and James,

Speaker 6 CP, Book,

Speaker 6 you know, CJ.

Speaker 6 And we did it with K-Hart.

Speaker 1 Like, so all all these guys are partners.

Speaker 6 And by the way, they're helping to build the business. It's going to be a great investment for them.
I think they got in the first year.

Speaker 6 They invested, they got 12% of their money back on the investment the first year. It's like, damn, unheard of.

Speaker 1 Well, it is, I mean, Mitchell and Nest is a great brand, so that made perfect sense.

Speaker 6 Right. And so, and by the way, they're helping to build the business.
And so for me, like, that's the thing that people don't understand. I do do some fun things.
Like, the White Party is fun.

Speaker 6 The Hangover is not fun, by the way. The White Party is fun.

Speaker 4 You probably have a staff of like,

Speaker 4 you got the Ivy Nerves.

Speaker 1 You don't get hungover. You've got all the good drugs that we need.

Speaker 6 I will tell you.

Speaker 1 Some chamber you sleep in. So I'm going to admit,

Speaker 6 this year at the Super Bowl party was maybe the most I'd ever drank in my life.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 6 And our party started, I think, two o'clock, and then I went straight to something else. Then I went late.
I remember I looked at someone at 3 o'clock in the morning. I'm like, why am I here?

Speaker 6 There's something the matter with me.

Speaker 1 I went home. I woke up.

Speaker 6 And Camille said to me, how do you feel? I said, I feel great. She goes, I don't understand.
Like, there's something not right with you.

Speaker 4 Did you drink champagne the day before the Super Bowl?

Speaker 1 No. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Why would you do that as a

Speaker 1 MFO Philly guy?

Speaker 4 Max did that.

Speaker 1 Max was also the darkest he's ever been in his life. I didn't have one sip of alcohol until our Super Bowl party.

Speaker 6 Not once.

Speaker 6 I also, like, I actually don't like alcohol. I actually think it's disgusting.
I mean that.

Speaker 6 I'm a guy's guy, but so I could not drink for eight weeks, and then I could like shot a clock and I'm in for 20 shots.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 How much of buying lids was the fact that when you walk into a lids in the mall, it just smells awesome.

Speaker 6 That was not, first of all, I didn't know that.

Speaker 1 I like to learn every day. Oh, it's a great smell, it's like a very unique smell.
It's that and Auntie Ann's are the two best smells.

Speaker 4 Yeah, first of all, you can put me in a hot topic and then in a lids, and I'll be able to tell you in a half second which is which if I was blind.

Speaker 6 So, maybe we should do that and do like a little competition of like, tell me, smell when you're in lids. You might have just created a new marketing campaign.

Speaker 6 You see, I always say I like to have people around. I might like to learn from them today.

Speaker 6 I've learned two things: one, the lid smells great, and two, that we should actually start to do the lid smell test.

Speaker 4 Well, yeah, it's it's you know, it's one of those things that I think most people don't even realize.

Speaker 4 And maybe you don't, you know, you own the business and you didn't realize it, but Lids has, it's got a unique smell that sticks with the consumer. And like, you just know that you're in a Lids.

Speaker 4 It's great.

Speaker 6 So what I'll tell you about Lids is they have, it's an incredible brand. They have an incredible consumer base.
It's a, you know, much younger customer than that, you know, overall Fnatics customer.

Speaker 6 It's a, you know, it's, it's someone who buys a lot of hats and hats are part of the wardrobe. And, you know, look, we have, you know, we own a lot of cool brands.

Speaker 6 You know, obviously Lids is an incredible brand. Mitchell Ness is an incredible brand.
Topps is an incredible brand.

Speaker 6 And, you know, Fanatics is really where you get everything in sports.

Speaker 1 So I got an idea for you. Ready for this one? Because you like being around ideas, guys.
What about selling extra flammable jerseys? So if you know a guy's...

Speaker 1 Yeah, if you know a guy's about to get traded or leave a team, because there's nothing more pathetic than when someone tries to burn a jersey and it like doesn't fully burn.

Speaker 1 So it's special jerseys that you buy and you're like extra flammable.

Speaker 6 Unless this is for like David Blaine, I'm probably thinking it's not going to be very good for our insurance.

Speaker 1 Okay. All right.

Speaker 1 No bad ideas, right? No bad ideas. No bad ideas.
No bad ideas.

Speaker 6 I'm actually liking the smell test better.

Speaker 6 Right now I'm thinking we're like one for two and big ideas.

Speaker 1 Okay, okay, okay, all right. Well, we can workshop it.
We can workshop it. Maybe what about if it was a well, I guess that would like a non-flammable where you can burn it.

Speaker 1 It looks burned, but then you can like put it out and it's totally fresh and fine and fine. But you want people to buy more jerseys.

Speaker 6 Yeah, look, if your player gets traded, we want you coming back to Fnatic.

Speaker 1 We want you to burn it and come back.

Speaker 6 We don't really want you to burn it.

Speaker 1 It's extra flammable.

Speaker 6 We should celebrate the player and what they did for the team before yeah

Speaker 1 it sounded nice

Speaker 1 that's a perfect world yeah it's a perfect world that you just described where dave gets all four invites yeah that's never happened

Speaker 4 yeah when you when you when you check out on the website it says like i consent to giving you my if dave comes back if dave comes back and says

Speaker 6 listen i was a little ahead of myself

Speaker 1 i shouldn't

Speaker 6 i shouldn't have asked for a bus score i'd really like to come with my girlfriend on my own chance i would think about it. Other than that, I'm going to love him forever.

Speaker 6 He'll always be my boy, but he'll never be at the white party.

Speaker 4 If I love somebody, I would invite them to my massive party.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 With a lot of invitations.

Speaker 6 That's the Super Bowl bar. Make it the Dave Porter.

Speaker 6 Yeah, we'll do that for the Super Ball. We can celebrate him at the Super Ball.

Speaker 1 But yeah, I think PFT is right.

Speaker 1 There's a waiver. Yeah.
And then also you can order flammable. You can order how flammable.
Yeah. Like I wanted to be bomb flammable.

Speaker 4 Medium flammable.

Speaker 1 It's just like size. It's no different than ordinary.

Speaker 6 I think the flammable products aren't going to be a big category for us.

Speaker 1 All All right. I'm just, listen, if you sold extra flammable jerseys, like Packers jerseys for Aaron Rodgers fans, they would be, it would be awesome.
Well, that's on fire.

Speaker 6 I'll tell you what's going to be really exciting if Aaron Rodgers comes to the Jets.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm sure you've been looking at the news being like, let's go.

Speaker 6 He's going to sell a lot of jerseys.

Speaker 4 I can tell you that. Have you ever thought about entering with a partnership with a player and then being like, hey, you should demand another trade so we can sell more jerseys?

Speaker 6 I would never do anything like that.

Speaker 4 No, never.

Speaker 4 But if that player wanted to come to the Sixers and they were going to make make the team better yeah yeah yeah that might you know could see something like that potentially happening uh do you still trust the process are you a big process guy we're process guys on the show huge process

Speaker 6 i'm about championing i'm a championship guy i'm a chip guy so your results guy i'm i'm all about the chip you need the process to get the results yeah you you know what i'm all about there's one thing i care about with the sixers it's winning championships and honestly like i don't i don't need to look back i don't need to look at what the team what we got right and wrong because we got a lot right we got a lot wrong too by the way we made a lot of mistakes um and you know what?

Speaker 6 What we got to do is win championships. That's the only thing that matters, right?

Speaker 4 But I guess we've talked about the process that the Sixers use on the show a lot, and it worked.

Speaker 4 You did everything that you wanted to do, and you're going to obviously like hit or miss on certain draft picks or whatever.

Speaker 4 But if you're a, like, from the ownership standpoint, how much patience do you have to have while that's all taking place?

Speaker 1 Because you can't, you know, they're not.

Speaker 6 So, I would say, first, it hasn't worked yet because we haven't won a championship.

Speaker 1 I'd argue it has the process worked.

Speaker 6 Yeah, so I'm so we can disagree. Um, I would say to me, the measurement of successes is winning championships.

Speaker 6 And I would tell you that, look, I think what's great about Philly now is it's a great free agency destination. Like, people want to be in Philly.

Speaker 6 They see the strength and leadership that we have in the ownership group, which I'm not part of anymore, in the leadership team, in the locker room. It's a great locker room.

Speaker 6 I mean, we have so many great guys that work together as an organization. So I think it's a great free, you know, I think it's a great free agency destination.
I think Philly is super excited.

Speaker 6 By the way, it's a a cheap state to live in, 3% taxes versus New York that's 15% taxes.

Speaker 6 So for someone who's making a lot of money, that could be $5 million in extra cash a year they save if you're a max player.

Speaker 6 So for me, I'm measuring one thing, chips.

Speaker 1 I see, I think the process worked because I think that winning a championship is so hard.

Speaker 6 It is. You have a 3% chance.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 1 It's more like putting out a

Speaker 1 contending team for a stretch of time, and then everything else is kind of, you know, it's a little bit up to luck.

Speaker 6 So I'm calling bullshit on you.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 6 Because when our mutual friend just walked in here, and Ron, and you gave him shit for not winning the Final Four, he said, well, we got to the Final Four and you said you're a loser.

Speaker 1 Well, yeah, because he was like, well, I was happy they got to the Final Four. Like, you right.

Speaker 6 So you're asking me to be happy about a process because we have a contender.

Speaker 1 But you have to have a winner of championships. But that was the first Final Four Miami had ever been to.
You're going both ways. No, no, no.
That was the first Final Four Miami had ever been to.

Speaker 6 Take a place in the street to see if they can get away with that.

Speaker 1 If they can build a sustained, like, you know, team that goes to the Final Four multiple years, that's different. Like, you know, the first time, I understand he can be happy.
So, who's your team?

Speaker 6 Who's your favorite team?

Speaker 1 Probably the Bears.

Speaker 6 And so, if the Bears got to...

Speaker 1 They have not built anything.

Speaker 6 So if the Bears got your championship didn't win, you'd be happy after they lost in the Super Bowl?

Speaker 1 If the Bears got to a point, well, actually, we had this debate. No, no, we had this debate.
No, no, no, no. You're not really a winner.

Speaker 1 We actually had this debate, and you're now about to lose this debate. We had this debate because we said that would you rather, if Commanders fan, Bears fan, our teams suck.

Speaker 1 We said in the next 50 years if you won one title but missed the playoffs all the other 49 years or you could lose the super bowl 15 times we said we'd take losing the super bowl 15 times because that would be some sick like you win a lot of nfc championship games that would be awesome that's a lot of partying

Speaker 4 so many super bowls you get to go to that's a real it's loser talk that's we know it's loser talk that's a complicated i agree that's a complicated yeah because like that's listen it would suck never to win one but you'd also have a lot of great memories From a business standpoint, think about how many more NFC championship t-shirts that you could sell if you go to 15 Super Bowls than if you just win one Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 Yeah, 15 Super Bowls kind of a dangerous thing.

Speaker 6 If you think about something from a fan's perspective, you care about one thing, winning championships.

Speaker 1 No, that's true.

Speaker 1 Listen, you've given, listen. We've muddied the waters here.
You're marketing more to losers.

Speaker 4 That's your problem.

Speaker 1 You've got to get in the loser.

Speaker 1 I'm on it. I'm on it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I just, I always love the process because I think it's very rare in sports where a team goes all in on a strategy and tells the fans, because a lot of times what happens with ownership is they will tell you one thing and be doing another.

Speaker 1 And so the transparency of the process is what we're fans of, where it's like,

Speaker 1 if they give it to me straight, I can deal with it.

Speaker 6 I think communication and whatever you do is one of the most important things in life. And what I've learned is there's many complicated situations and people don't know how to communicate.

Speaker 6 By the way, including in locker rooms, in sports, in business. Like to me, when you got something you got to deal with, just fucking deal with it.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 6 Like that, I'm always like, I hate the, you know i'm you know i'm something's festering my brain but you know like i don't work that way like i got an issue with you i'm gonna go grab you and tell you you know i see two people that i work with that are like each whining at me like guys get in the office let's solve this yeah like let's not have this bullshit and kill brain cells so to me communication is everything and so when you talk about communicating with a fan base yeah of course they're going to appreciate honesty and transparency and telling them the truth which is why i tell you all the things we screw shit up all the time too yeah um all right so this has been awesome i have one last question for you this college football season, we are feeling the cheesiest with Cheez-It, the ultimate irresistible football-watching snack.

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Speaker 1 We have to ask this for a headline grab. Michael Rubin, will you ever run for president?

Speaker 6 Zero chance.

Speaker 1 Zero? Zero? Zero is. I've learned the 10X mentality, Grant Cardone.
He taught me that zero is still a chance.

Speaker 6 No, so I'm going to be honest with you. I think it's a brutal job.
I would never want it.

Speaker 6 It's like you can't get shit done as the president. The thing I love about what I do is I can, as a CEO in an entrepreneurial company, I can make things happen.

Speaker 6 I can see something today and come up with an idea and I can infectuate that idea. I can see something we've done wrong and fix it.
Okay. As the president, it's a purely political job.

Speaker 6 And so I don't like that. So, no, if you told me today I could be president today, I would have zero points of interest in that job.

Speaker 4 Sounds like you want to be king. Who?

Speaker 1 To be king of the United States. Yeah.

Speaker 6 King sounds a lot more interesting.

Speaker 1 There's a headline graph.

Speaker 1 King's a lot more interesting.

Speaker 1 You can have kings, of course.

Speaker 6 But by the way, as a king, you know what I want to be? A great leader that brought everyone together. But ultimately, I think to have the influence to bring people together is really important.

Speaker 6 So the problem with the president is you start with like

Speaker 6 a country where everyone's divided.

Speaker 1 And I don't like that.

Speaker 6 And I don't like how, and I stay away from politics because I don't want to be in the middle of politics.

Speaker 6 What I want to do is bring bring people together by the way our white party brings people together my super bowl party brings people together fanatics brings people together i like to bring people together what i don't want to do is spend time like working hard to not get things done i want to get results and push hard yeah so what i like about that though is i think that if you want to be president that should automatically disqualify you from ever being president well i'm gonna tell you one other thing about being president i firmly believe this if there's one rule that should be put in place right now you guys tell me what you think there needs to be an age max you cannot be president past 65.

Speaker 1 yeah you

Speaker 6 can't for For the first term.

Speaker 1 It does. It makes me laugh.
Like, you can't have.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because you're making changes that will have effects on when you're in the middle of the day.

Speaker 6 I want people that are in the sharpest period of their life. By the way, I'm not trying to criticize anyone, you know,

Speaker 1 but in general, like, I think that's a good idea.

Speaker 1 I'm going to say that

Speaker 1 if there's a hypothetical old president out there, we've had the last two presidents. No, no, you're right.
The last two have been old. I agree.

Speaker 6 I think first term, you have to be under 65 when you take it, when you become president. I think that would be amazing.
I think you'd have sharper people that could be more aggressive.

Speaker 6 Like, I want the leader of our country to be, you know, a great leader and bring people together and be able to really affect change.

Speaker 6 I work 18 hours a day and I know my energy doesn't stop and I want somebody to work the same way.

Speaker 1 I think a president should be 18 years old. It's crazy.
It's doing wild shit.

Speaker 4 I work 19 hours a day, but I guess I'm just built different from you.

Speaker 1 You might ask me that.

Speaker 4 That's okay. Yeah.
So come back.

Speaker 1 We need you.

Speaker 4 I got one last, last question.

Speaker 1 This is another headline grab.

Speaker 4 This is what we do. We say, this is the last question.
And then if you ask a last, last question after that, nobody ever gets up for it. So you can just keep the interview going.

Speaker 4 This is another headline, Grab. You found yourself, I guess you were kind of like at the middle.
When I think about Meek Mill and Robert Kraft, and those two guys... Very similar.

Speaker 4 Those two guys are in the same sentence. I'm like, well, Michael Rubin was definitely involved in this conversation.

Speaker 4 Meek Mill texted Lamar Jackson and said, or he texted Robert Kraft about Lamar Jackson and said, Patriots need to sign this guy. Let's get it done.

Speaker 4 I have to assume that you were involved in some of those conversations. As a Philly guy, were you upset at Meek Mill for being like, hey, why are you telling the Patriots to sign Lamar?

Speaker 6 So, two things. One, I give you my absolute word.
I was not in the middle of that conversation in any relationship before I saw it

Speaker 6 on Twitter, when you saw it on Twitter. That's number one.

Speaker 6 Number two, no, I was not upset because you know what, if you're in the sports business and you have authentic relationships with players, you want what's best for the player.

Speaker 6 And so, I know that a fan base may not understand that, but if Lamar Jackson at that point decided that he may be interested in something else, I think, you know, I want him to be happy.

Speaker 6 And so now my boy O just went there, and O's a brother to me.

Speaker 6 So I'm happy for those guys, and hopefully they just do amazing things together.

Speaker 6 But like, look, my business, if I'm just keeping it real and people won't like hearing this, it makes you, you're really a supporter of your friends.

Speaker 6 If they own a team, you're a supporter of the friend, you're a supporter of the player. So you want your guys to do well.

Speaker 6 So, you know, I was excited for Odell when he went to Baltimore, not because I'm a Ravens fan, because I'm not, but because I wanted a great opportunity for him to go out and do everything he can do.

Speaker 6 And I was pumped for him. Would I prefer him to be an Eagle? Would I prefer him to be a Patriot? Definitely.

Speaker 6 But I was happy for him because I thought it was a great opportunity.

Speaker 1 So this has been awesome. Get ready for us to sneak into your party.
I can't wait. It's going to be great.

Speaker 4 I'm going to be in there so hard. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I want to get the whole moss suit where you're going to be able to do that.

Speaker 6 I'll make you guys a deal. If you guys get in, you can stay.

Speaker 1 Okay. Okay.
I love it.

Speaker 6 How's that? You get in, you can stay.

Speaker 4 I've snuck into harder places before. i yeah i've gotten to guy furious super bowl yeah no no we might have to make a video yeah okay i'm all deal you've you've created a very powerful

Speaker 1 you get in you guys can stay the only problem is over july 4th our one vacation a year because we work 19 hours a day 19 hours a day take take really no vacation let me tell you one thing you'd have a blast if you got it there we'll be there okay at some point we will be there i'm gonna get in yeah i'm gonna get in um all right

Speaker 1 yeah oh well no that would be a bad idea

Speaker 1 all right well michael rubin thank you so much appreciate you coming by man. Always welcome on, and you're the best.

Speaker 6 Fun hanging with you guys.

Speaker 11 Man, I'll tell you what.

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Speaker 1 Okay, FAQs, we got Hank here. Memes is going to read them.
Ooh. Memes, do you know how to read?

Speaker 1 Slightly. Memes quick Islanders minute.

Speaker 1 We're going to do that now? Yeah, do it now. All right.
Power play is terrible. Okay.
We knew that going in. We did the PK.

Speaker 4 PK wasn't great.

Speaker 1 Okay. Especially because the Hurricanes have won the worst power plays in the league, also.
Oh.

Speaker 1 That's bad. And you let up a power play goal.
So it's like the verbal meme, Nick Cage looking at the guy from The Last of Us driving. Okay.
Got it. Don't know that.
I don't understand that meme.

Speaker 1 Pedro Pascal. Yeah, Pedro Pascal.
I did TikTok with him. Yeah.
Go follow me on TikTok. Nick Cage stares at him and he's just smiling.
Okay.

Speaker 1 So, and how are we feeling? Lost game one. That's okay.
Lost game one. Probably should have won.

Speaker 1 I felt like they could have won that game. What was the final score? 2-1.
2-1. Okay, yeah, you probably could have won.
They set the record. Wait, wasn't it 3-1? Did they not score an empty netter?

Speaker 1 No. Oh, okay, 2-1.
2-1. That's pretty much going to be every game.
Yep. So you just need the puck and bounce your way.
Yep.

Speaker 1 It's just pucks bouncing our way. Pucks bouncing our way.

Speaker 1 And they just got to score goals. That was just me and my dad after that.

Speaker 1 It is important to score goals. You have to score to win.
That's true. Yeah, at least one.

Speaker 1 But most of the time, more than one. Yeah, more than one.
Yeah. At least one.
Okay, so you're not.

Speaker 1 You haven't lost confidence. No, no, no.

Speaker 1 I think we're fine. Okay.
Almost a statement loss?

Speaker 1 No. Okay, all right.
Well, I was trying to help you there. Statement loss would have been great.
Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
But Frankie Borrelli was tweeting, like, we will win games like this.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah, and NHL rigged.

Speaker 1 Oh, NHL rigged?

Speaker 1 Oh, there was a bad game. There was a phantom call.
Okay. All right.
Well, yeah,

Speaker 1 it's time to talk about late hits or guys leaving their feet and slow-mo and all that stuff with NHL playoffs.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but this one was just like he slapped the stick and they just called slashing and then they wound up scoring on it. Bullshit.
That's your least favorite penalty, Hank. Slashing.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 That wasn't like a joke or anything. It was just, I was just leaning into you being a puckhead.
Got it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 What is your least favorite penalty?

Speaker 3 I hit it when they shoot it at the boards and they mean mean to shoot it and it goes over. It's delay a game.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 That's bullshit. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Puck out of bounds. All right.
Go ahead, FAQs. Sup, fellas.
Sup. Want to throw a hypothetical out there.

Speaker 1 Let's assume you're all in studio recording an episode when a fight to the death breaks out.

Speaker 1 Who do you think goes after who? And who's the last man standing? Love you guys.

Speaker 3 Well, I feel like it would matter how the like a fight to the death doesn't just break out.

Speaker 1 Okay, well, I mean, but let's just say it did hypothetically. I know Billy would go for me right away.
He's had that in his eyes for years.

Speaker 1 I think what would happen is PFT would help me beat the fuck out of Billy and we would like, we would kill Billy.

Speaker 6 I think Max, Max would probably squash Jake right away.

Speaker 1 Or would you go straight for Hank?

Speaker 3 I would probably go for Jake. No offense, Jake, but we have had some, you know, some tough history where you've alphed me.
So I would probably just have to take you out before you could take me out.

Speaker 1 I think I have, I think Max, I have loyalty.

Speaker 1 are we counting memes in here too if memes is in here he's going down first memes is a tough motherfucker i think max i have max in like max is one of my guys now like he's very loyal to me i think i could be like max go kill everyone and then at the end be like max now kill yourself and he would just do that and i would survive fair

Speaker 1 yeah yeah sure take one out yeah yeah i just walked out of the room before no you can't do that billy what would you do

Speaker 4 you would definitely go for me billy you know you would no if it's the typical setup of it, Hank would definitely go for Jake first, meaning I'd have a free reign.

Speaker 4 I think if it was like a zombie virus thing where we all just went berserk and try to kill each other, that your proximity to PFT leaves me free.

Speaker 4 So then the only time is I have to get Max before he can get out from the behind there.

Speaker 6 And little did you guys know, I'd say...

Speaker 3 It would be the winner of PFT versus Big Cat. Winner of me versus Jake and then the winner versus Billy and Max.

Speaker 1 But Max would win that.

Speaker 4 No, but Max is in the corner.

Speaker 1 He's disadvantaged by his positioning i can close him off i could come from over the top okay but he's not gonna be able to get out of there fast enough so if i can get to him early enough i think i have advantage and then hank and jake i think it's gonna take a little longer this oh wow he said that's gonna be a fight a 12 round fight we're teaming up and taking down billy now no no no i'm saying this is like yeah you're saying no alliances because in reality if there were alliances pft and i would lie and then we'd probably like do rocks paper scissors shoot to see who has to kill themselves at the end like we would waste everyone and then be like, all right, now one of us has to go.

Speaker 4 So then I'd be in the corner. Hopefully my early jump gets Max.
And then I have to turn around and deal with what's going on here.

Speaker 1 Max, you would. One thing about Max, he would fuck Billy up.

Speaker 2 Yeah. That is a thing about me.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that is a thing about me. Yeah.

Speaker 6 He would fuck you up, Billy.

Speaker 1 When's Rough and Rowdy?

Speaker 4 If it's like less than two weeks, that would be sick to do.

Speaker 1 Listen, my boy Max, he's, we, if it's, if he needs a little fight camp before he's ready for rough and rowdy. I need a lot of fight camp.

Speaker 1 I mean, he was strategic. We need to go to the mountains.
Is it in two weeks?

Speaker 4 You know, you could get your one weekend off. We could really get it going.

Speaker 1 I would take Max in this room, though, just out of like Philly scumbag. You know? Yeah.
He would grab people's dicks. He would bite dicks off.

Speaker 4 We also got to look at the best weapons in the room. The barbell, I think, if you could use it.

Speaker 1 This isn't a real money. Ah, fuck.
That was exactly.

Speaker 1 That would suck. I go to get someone.

Speaker 4 There's a Liver King axe underneath the sofa. I don't know know where it is.
Right. There's a golf club there.

Speaker 1 I really wish I had a gun I could just pull out. Like, what do you guys think about this?

Speaker 1 All right. That'd be cool.
Good question. Good question.

Speaker 1 Throw some weights at people. Sound off in the comments.
Sound off in the comments.

Speaker 1 Who is the guest you didn't think you would get along with before an interview, but ended up having a good relationship with?

Speaker 1 And vice versa, who is the one you thought you would vibe with really well, but didn't? Ooh.

Speaker 1 Well, the one I would say that changed my opinion on how we do, because there's a lot of guests we get offered, some of them we don't do because we just won't be interested in whatever they're doing.

Speaker 1 The one I would say changed my opinion on like we need to be more open and we have been is Jerry O'Connell.

Speaker 1 Jerry O'Connell, I mean, we knew who he was, but we were like, all right, I guess we'll have him on. And then he became our best friend.
So that was a definite like, hey, give everyone a chance.

Speaker 1 Who's the one that we didn't vibe with that we thought we would?

Speaker 1 I thought me and Kareem would have something. Big poppy.

Speaker 1 Kareem was not. That was, he was not happy to do our podcast.

Speaker 6 He was very upset that he was with us in any capacity.

Speaker 1 I'm trying to think who else, like,

Speaker 1 I never thought we would vibe with, like, Dan Marino.

Speaker 1 I'm trying to, who else, who else did we walk away and we're like, ah, that one.

Speaker 1 Well, there's a comedian that shall go

Speaker 1 nameless because

Speaker 6 they threaten to sue us.

Speaker 1 Good news is that I just said comedian, we've had a number of comedians on, so you can't, unless the person hasn't been on twice. If the person's been on twice, it's not them.

Speaker 1 But if it's a person's been on once, they threaten to sue us.

Speaker 1 Yep. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Sound off in the comments who do you think it was.

Speaker 1 They're like legit threaten to sue us if we didn't like take down the whole episode. And we're like, that's not how it works.

Speaker 6 And it really, we didn't do anything bad at all.

Speaker 1 In terms of our interviews,

Speaker 1 there'll be interviews that we do sometimes. We're like, ooh, we didn't really click.
That was our mistake. This one was not our mistake.

Speaker 2 The guy just sucked.

Speaker 1 Or girl.

Speaker 1 We don't have girls on the show.

Speaker 1 We're trying to get more.

Speaker 1 How much work behind the scenes gets put into something like the golf video? Between everyone's schedule, camera crews, getting the okay from

Speaker 1 editing. I don't know.
It's taking so long. Well,

Speaker 1 I can start. I had to get up at 5 in the morning.
That was pretty tough on one of my only days off. Max memes, why don't you guys chime in? How long?

Speaker 3 No, there's a lot me and Max have gone through. I'm now

Speaker 3 in the process here.

Speaker 3 Golf is a lot of graphics and a lot of shot tracers. If you watch a golf video and you're not able to see where the ball is going, it's kind of pointless.

Speaker 4 So there's just

Speaker 1 it's not as simple as just like a pmt vlog where it's like you're basically just shooting stuff and then editing it and kind of just punching it together there's a lot of you shoot it you put it in and then you have to add you know probably three or four graphics per like shot really so it's a lot from my perspective it seems like a lot because when we go out there we had four people with cameras and after every hole we had to do a clap to reset the cameras so that they can go back and look at the footage a lot of moving parts a lot of like because it's weird when when you're on a golf course, it's different than being in front of a microphone in a studio.

Speaker 1 You're just saying shit constantly, so there could be a funny line that they got to find or some weird moment.

Speaker 1 I think there will be a little teaser for the golf video.

Speaker 1 I was a tremendous teammate to Hank. I didn't bash him whatsoever when he was not close to me.

Speaker 3 I watched it last night.

Speaker 1 What did I say?

Speaker 1 A lot of mean things. A lot of.
Basically.

Speaker 2 Hank watched a rough cut. He watched a rough cut.
So

Speaker 3 I watched the long, yeah.

Speaker 1 I wouldn't want to be teammates with anyone else in the world. So it's, you know.

Speaker 1 But yeah, there might have been some times where when you were like 20 feet away out of earshot, I would mutter something under my breath. And then when you came back, I was like, way to go, Hank.

Speaker 1 Let's keep going. But that, no spoilers.

Speaker 3 It's funny. It's not nice, but it's funny.

Speaker 1 And when it comes out, people will enjoy it.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 What will you miss most about New York when you move? Do you have any new ideas/slash segments for when you move to Chicago? Whew, good question. We have a lot of new stuff we're going to do,

Speaker 1 both PMT and also like office-wise. We're going to be streaming a lot.
A lot.

Speaker 1 Want to talk about that, Hank?

Speaker 6 No.

Speaker 1 Okay. We are going to be streaming a lot.
There will be a lot of, think of like stool streams, but on steroids and with a ton of space. And less organized.
And less organized, but in a fun way. Yes.

Speaker 1 More chaotic. So you'll see a lot of us doing random shit, just being like, oh, I bet you can't do this, and then being able to prove it right away.

Speaker 3 We basically have, it's imagine if we had a basketball court right outside our studio now.

Speaker 3 Like we have, we have, it's for creative people, it's like a giant, just here you go, do whatever you want, and we're going to be able to utilize that in a way we haven't had that.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 3 for seven years.

Speaker 1 Since I watched the first episode of Robin Big, I wanted a fun factory. That shit ruled.
What are you going to miss most about New York?

Speaker 3 I am going to miss absolutely nothing about this place. I hate getting on the subway.
I hate getting off. I hate where our office is.
It's just about homeless people and drug overdoses.

Speaker 3 You're just walking over, I think, dead people to get into the office every day.

Speaker 1 I did see a woman just like give me just straight up eye contact while she was pissing right in front of our office the other day. That was kind of cool, though.
It was a...

Speaker 1 Borderline hot. If you want to put it on the bonk list, that's fine, but it was kind of like, what's going on here?

Speaker 3 I will miss the maybe one or two times a year that i'm either going to a game at msg or going home on the amtrak where i can just walk and be five minutes away yeah um what are you gonna miss max

Speaker 1 um

Speaker 2 i'm gonna miss a lot i love new york city honestly oh um

Speaker 2 but no i i gasped because uh yesterday i saw i was walking down the street and there was a guy literally butt-ass naked just shitting right in front of my face and i was walking with my girlfriend and it was one of those things where i was like holy fuck.

Speaker 2 And I like actually moved her out of the way.

Speaker 10 It was a big fight-or-flight moment.

Speaker 2 I was like, that man is shitting right in my face.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like, I think there's good parts of New York. There's good parts of every big city.

Speaker 3 Yeah, if we lived, if our office was in a cool area where it's like you walk outside, there's like a park, or you can, you know, we just walk outside into just chaos.

Speaker 1 I, uh, I actually will miss. Um,

Speaker 1 I've grown to like New York a lot more than when we first moved here. There is.
You live in Brooklyn. Yeah.

Speaker 1 That's. some may say that's more New York than Manhattan.
I guess. I mean that's true New Yorkers.

Speaker 1 I would say I will miss New York is very different than any other city in that it's like

Speaker 1 there's so many different walks of life, so many different people and characters and just like weirdos, but like in a good way. I don't know.
I will miss a little of that. Some of the edge.

Speaker 1 A little of the edge. Tiny bit of the edge.
No?

Speaker 3 No, I'm literally racking my brain to think of what I'm going to miss, but it's like, you know, there's good food in good restaurants. There's good food in restaurants in Chicago.
Yeah. There's water.

Speaker 3 There's water.

Speaker 1 It is. I know there's been a hotly contested debate online recently.
But yes, I am a big believer that every city has good parts, bad parts, good things, you know, negatives, all that.

Speaker 1 But living in a city is fun. And you make it what you want to make it.
So yeah.

Speaker 1 I will miss a little of the edge, though.

Speaker 1 I also started liking New York once COVID hit because then that no one, like it was like half capacity.

Speaker 3 And I don't want to sound like a New York hater. I just have living here sucks.

Speaker 1 I will be excited.

Speaker 3 I will be excited to come back here and visit because you can come here for 48 hours and do everything.

Speaker 3 You can eat at a good place. You can go out and have a crazy night.
There's all types of, but like I'm not a huge nightlife guy anymore. I'm not even a huge foodie, really.

Speaker 3 So

Speaker 3 living here and paying what you have to pay to live here is not worth it, but I think it'll be fun to visit.

Speaker 1 I love it here. Yeah.
It's great.

Speaker 7 The only big downside, coming from Florida, it's really hard to play golf, tennis, pretty much any sport. Like, that's something you have to do.

Speaker 7 You have to make a big effort and eat big water a day just to do something that anywhere else is pretty easy.

Speaker 1 I guess, yeah, the only thing I'll miss about New York is the people. For real.
I do like the people who are weird. They're interesting.
They're cool. They're gritty.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 I do like the walking aspect, too. You can walk everywhere and do anything except play golf.
Except play golf. All right.
Last one. I will not miss my commute.
That is ass. Yeah.

Speaker 1 People don't know, but memes commutes like 90 minutes

Speaker 1 one way. Yeah, and then same back.

Speaker 1 Jesus Christ.

Speaker 1 I mean, it's insane. Yeah, I hate it.
It's insane. Hello, PMT.
I've been trying to figure out for a long time, and maybe it's an inside joke you don't want to disclose.

Speaker 1 But what is the common denominator for guests that get the, and now for something completely different, snippet before the interview? Oh, that's all. I didn't know we'd do that.

Speaker 7 That's for a two-guest two-guest episode, right?

Speaker 4 That's a twofer.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 interesting. I didn't know we do that.
I should probably listen to the show. I thought that was pretty self-explanatory.
Yeah, that does seem self-explanatory.

Speaker 2 Because it's just one interview and now for a different interview.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah. Okay.

Speaker 1 Anything else? That's it? No.

Speaker 1 Oh. Have you ever gotten one?

Speaker 1 Have you ever gotten it?

Speaker 1 I've never even gotten it.

Speaker 4 Oh, memes. All right.

Speaker 1 Hank, have you ever gotten a lottery ball?

Speaker 7 No. by the way i posted it all the stats publicly people are coming at big cat for only getting one but

Speaker 1 i've gotten one they fly forever what what do you want to do i've gotten one people are like are you going to talk about the fact you've only got one yeah you just said it i got one one is all you need and people do forget the day that i got one i actually got two well

Speaker 1 it didn't count officially but we were here doing uh short porsche i've got one then too just no officially no you actually haven't gotten it on officially i mean if we're just making stuff up i mean it was it was literally taped.

Speaker 1 No, no, I'm not taking credit for it, but I'm saying I literally got it in two days, in two in one day. You've never gotten even when we're fucking around.

Speaker 7 You don't know that. So go to my Twitter.
I tweeted out the Google Doc. It's visible to anyone.

Speaker 1 Thank you, Jake, for backing me up. Flags fly forever.
If you had one, what would you...

Speaker 1 People can start.

Speaker 10 We just had this debate, right, about 50 years.

Speaker 1 If Hank gets two... And I'm still stuck on one, then he can flip it on me.
Absolutely. That would be fair.
But right now, I got one. You got none.
You've never gotten this.

Speaker 7 You have a ring the rest of your life.

Speaker 1 Have you ever gotten this? No. I have.
Ask me that. Ask me the same question.

Speaker 3 Have you ever gotten this? Yes.

Speaker 1 Okay, numbers. Six, nine.
One.

Speaker 1 My son has two.

Speaker 1 Six.

Speaker 1 17. 20.

Speaker 1 What were you looking at before?

Speaker 3 It's a different angle, you know.

Speaker 1 What was your guess memes? One

Speaker 1 55!

Speaker 1 Was that one of the ones that Stadthole told me to guess?

Speaker 1 Oh no.

Speaker 1 Oh no, I think it was.

Speaker 7 No, Stadhole said

Speaker 7 50-54.

Speaker 1 Ah, dirty.

Speaker 1 Alright, love you guys.

Speaker 4 The Big Hat Public Safety Act requires current private owners of big cats to register them with the U.S.

Speaker 4 Federal Wildlife Service no later than June 18th, 2023, in order to continue to legally possess their big cats.

Speaker 4 So, big cats are now regulated.

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