Michael Rubin, Draymond Gets Suspended, NHL Playoffs And PFT Talks About His Dad

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Welcome to Part of My Take. Today is Wednesday, April 19th.
We are on Zoom today and PFT. Yeah, so we're on Zoom right now.
I'm down in Virginia. My dad passed away this morning and I wasn't sure what I wanted to do if I wanted to do part of my take today at first.
And I know a lot of you guys at home probably use this show as an escape or to get you through tough times sometimes and laugh and forget about real issues every now and again. And that's kind of the boat that I found myself in today where I felt like it would be good.
We're recording this late at night, been taking care of family stuff all day, and I thought it would be a good escape for me and maybe be able to laugh a little bit and chop it up and kind of get away from the real life situation. And I feel the same way that we've heard from a lot of people over the years.
I feel the same way now. So thank you guys for being there for me.
I appreciate that. That goes for obviously everybody in the studio on the show.
I appreciate you guys being an outlet for this and also everybody at home listening. And I know I've talked about my dad a few times on this show, but he really is the reason why I grew to love sports.
He would let me miss class and stay home from school in the morning sometimes to watch SportsCenter. And most of my childhood memories revolve somehow around, you know, playing sports with him, going to sporting events with him or having him prank me into going to a sporting event that wasn't real with him, which it's kind of funny.
I was talking with my family today and we were joking around and, and laughing about some of the, some of the funny things that he did over the years. And that story, the April Fool's story got brought up where he got me out of class.
And it turns out I didn't even get the real crux of the joke until just today. The real crux of the joke, as I mentioned a couple of weeks ago, was there was no game on April 1st that year, April Fool's Day, when he got me out of class to take me to the orioles game the real crux of the joke my brother just told me this today was the joke was i should have known that the orioles didn't have a home opener on april 1st and i don't know ball because i'm a casual so that's that's what he was that's what he was driving at but he was was busting my balls when he did that.
And he was a funny guy. And if anybody knew him, they knew he was the guy who was usually wearing a track suit and usually taking me or my brother to the sporting events.
We had the van that was stocked with every sort of sports equipment you could ever hope for growing up. And he taught me how to love sports.
And taught me how to love sports and he was a fan of you guys too. He loved, he loved you guys.
And, um, he also loved like all the AWLs that he would meet when he'd go out and start chopping up with somebody about sports. If they looked like they were a younger person, he would ask him like, do you guys listen to part of my take? And, uh, then he would, you know, go on to tell them that, Oh, PFT is my son.
And, and he'd make a new friend and friend, and he would then – he'd always give me a call and let me know who he met that way. And it meant a lot to him, and sports were – like I said, they were a big part of our lives, and I owe so much to him.
He was a great dude. So going to miss him, and, yeah, that's pretty much it.
The last thing I will say, though, is eye for an eye, well-played Jon Rahm, a tremendous competitor. I'll make that joke before anybody else does.
I forgot about that. So it's okay.
I know some people are going to wonder if it's okay to make that joke. So I'll be the first one to make it.
It is okay. He would have thought that was funny.
But, yeah, so that's where I'm at personally right now. And, yeah, I hope you guys will understand.
We'll probably do another Skype show or Zoom show later on this week. Some things might change with the formatting.
But, yeah, I appreciate you guys being there for me. So love you guys.
Love you, PFT. Yeah.
i mean it's it's you know i don't it's it's a horrible thing that everyone obviously eventually has to go through but i just you know i know your dad i we we got to meet him a couple times i know how proud he was of this show and like that was just so cool to see because i'm sure you know we're we're very similar there's probably moments where our parents were like are they actually going to have a career here and for him to see it get to the point where it's gotten and you know when we met him at training camp he was wearing the track suit he was proud and it was uh yeah i mean it was it was clear that he was so proud of everything you've done and uh yeah yeah i mean when you when you hurt we hurt so it's yeah it's real life sometimes but uh but yeah i appreciate you guys and yeah he was uh he was a big fan of of yours and just uh he was really supportive there were some times when he didn't really understand what a podcast was and whether or not this was going to be something that I was going to really take seriously. But he was also like the most supportive person in the world, and he was like, go for it if it makes you happy.
And I was really, really lucky to have him as a dad. So if you're on the fence about calling your dad today, give him a call.
Tell him you love him. Permission to make another lighthearted joke? Yes.
We can cut it out, but he did pass away without ever seeing Hank get the lottery ball. That's true.
That's true. It's true, Hank.
That's not. That's a fact.
Every day. It's just a fact.
Every day. Yeah.
Honestly, not cool. Yeah.
Oh, man. oh man but yeah pft we love you you know we love you and uh it's it's tough because it definitely is like we are we've been doing this for a long time so we are family and so whenever you know something like this happens to any of us it's it's really really tough so but he did he he i i just remember you telling me how proud he was of this show and it was very clear that picture of him with the track suit was like i was like that's that's a dad it was just like my my son at the at the camp the team you guys rooted for growing up that's where that was yeah yeah we that was that was very a very moment, a little behind the scenes when we went to the, I guess it was the football team.
It was a Washington football team at the time, which had a training camp and interviewed Ron Rivera and Ryan Fitzpatrick. I got my dad in and got to introduce him to Fitzy and some of the guys behind the scenes.
And that's where we used to go every summer when I was a kid. Me and him would go to Redskins training camp probably, I don't know, 10, 12 times each year and watch the team practice.
And it was very cool to, like, show them around and to, you know, kind of full circle moment in a way that way. So, yeah, a lot of emotions.
I'm going through a lot of different things right now, some up, some down. But it's good to have you guys around.
It's good to have an outlet where hopefully we can – I mean, we've already told some pretty fucking sick jokes today. So maybe the last ones are twice.
The genre I didn't even think about. I mean – And I know how your brain works.
You probably thought of it like 9 30 this morning you're like ah no no i actually i when we were talking before the show about something else related to john rom i was like oh fuck yeah okay all right we'll have something to talk about if we ever if we ever meet the guy yeah um so let's try to make you laugh. Let's try to have some fun.
Stop me if you heard this before, but Draymond Green assaulted someone again, and he's suspended. So the news just came down.
He's suspended for game three, which I actually hate because, well, one, I don't think he should have been suspended, but two, now Warriors fans can be can be like well we've never lost a series when when steph clay and draymond played the whole series okay so i i like and hate that he was suspended at the same time i don't think he should have been suspended for it because he got he got his foot grabbed and it wasn't even that hard of a yeah he's a big guy and you probably shouldn't step on another man's sternum intentionally but at the same time like his foot was being grabbed you got to get the guy off you somehow i think it should have been it should have been a flagrant i don't think he should have been suspended but then i i love the fact that when he got kicked out of the game they just let draymond spend like what felt like 15 minutes on the court just antagonizing the fans openly. That was an awesome moment.
That might've been why he got suspended. Did Shams say exactly why Jake? Cause like, if you're, if you're Adam silver, that felt more out of line of what they're trying to preach on like the, you know, player fan interaction than the actual stomp that credits to Sabonis, I thought he broke his sternum, the way he was acting, and then he got up and he was fine.
Once Sabonis basically acted like he got the whatever you call him, the EMT thrown into his heart. Defibrillated.
Yeah, DeMar Hamlin was watching like hell he had. draymond green should attend every youth sporting event in america to make sure that he can revive somebody it might have been the moment when they were zooming in on dream on looking at the crowd and just him going pussy at at the guy that was flipping them off but at the same time draymond looked like he was having the time of his life when he was screaming at the crowd.
Like he, I think that's good for NBA fan interaction. It's, it's not good when you have Russell Westbrook, uh, just finding somebody backstage and a poor little kid who's eating a slice of ham with his, with his teeth and then going up to his dad and calling his dad, a motherfucker.
That's bad. That's bad for the league, but having Draymond just get up in the crowd's face and smiling and screaming at him i think that's good that's the good type of fan interaction that you want he draymond is like he has like joker energy where he just not not jokovic or uh uh what's what the fuck you know it's late not yokich but Joker, like the actual Heath Ledger.
Like he just wants to see every like the chaos because that was there was a moment there where it was like, this is how the Malice of the Palace kind of started. If someone if a fan throws something here, this could get bad.
I also loved Jordan Poole's face standing there. And he was like Draymond was going crazy, like whooping it up.
and Jordan Poole's face standing there and he was like Draymond was going crazy like whooping it up and Jordan Poole was kind of like laughing along like ha ha ha like this is actually what it looked like right before I got punched in the face so I'm just going to be on his side here and be like hey this is cool this is funny Draymond like good one dude so it was crazy it was a crazy scene yeah well that's the thing is like Dr Green. So Sabonis did grab his leg.
I don't think he should have been suspended. But if there's one guy who you can be like, oh, he has a history of just like kicking people in the nuts, stomping on people, punching his teammate in the face.
He is the guy. So I don't you can't Draymond can't like be like, oh, that was a totally out out of character act by me that was as much in character as you can get for Draymond Green in an NBA basketball game yeah he's gone method he's always in character he's gone method in terms of acting like Draymond Green all the time yeah Jake well you say Jake press release says the suspension was based in part of Green's history of unsportsmanlike acts so it seems like oh yeah he's yeah so i i don't think he should have been suspended uh for for either one of the acts for the antagonizing or for the stomping but i am a little bit happy that he got suspended because that means that when he comes back in game four we're gonna get full draymond he's gonna just be going nuts on the court so i'm happy about'm happy about that.
You make a good point. The Warriors fans can be like, the series doesn't count, even though, you know what? But Kings fans can be like straight up, here's a stat.
In game one, it was 105-105 with five minutes, 50 seconds left. In this game, it was 95-95 with five minutes, 50 seconds left.
So the Kings have scored the Warriors in the final 550 of games one and two by a combined 40-29. So the Kings have just been better down the stretch.
I think that was David Locke that tweeted that out. But they've just been better at closing games out.
Here's another stat, because Warriors fans will, I think most Warriors fans won't do this, but you know there'll be the trolls being like, yeah, they, you know, Raptors series, everyone got hurt. You know, the Cavs in 2016, Draymond got suspended.
They never lost with those three guys. The craziest part, the craziest stat I saw, this breaks the streak.
The Warriors have not been down 2-0 in a series in 27 straight series 27 straight playoff series they haven't been down 2-0 in the first two games in those 27 straight playoff series they're like something like 43 and 11 or I might have my math wrong but it's no that's right 43 and 11 it's crazy they have been they never get in this hole and they're in this hole and you're right. PFT, like the way they, the way the Kings have played down the stretch.
Kings didn't even play. I think that was the second or third worst shooting night they've had all year.
Like they didn't even play that great. And they beat the warriors and the warriors are officially on the rope.
And this is another one of those. Like, I don't, I don't put that much stock in regular season in terms of like a team can take load management all this stuff but the warriors sucked on the road all year and they sucked in on the road in the playoffs like we they should have we should have believed them when they told us they can't play on the road also we should have paid more attention to the beam this year because the beam is intense lighting the beam it's, it's an X factor.
That's the rally monkey of these playoffs. The beam is fucking sick when they shoot it up into outer space.
I don't know how high it goes. I just assume it goes all the way to the moon.
But it's awesome. I love it.
Kings just have good vibes. You saw Dele on the bench almost died last time he played against Steph Curry.
And he was coaching the guys up, getting in their ears. They just seem – they're such a fun team.
They're young. They're young.
They're fun. Billy, what were you going to say? Just last thing on the Sabonis thing, that's a total soccer move.
That's what soccer players do. Yeah, yeah.
Pretending you're dead. The grabbing of the legs on the ground.
It's very European. And then pretending you're dead afterwards.
That's totally European. The Beam PFT, I read an article about the Beam on the ground it's very european you're dead afterwards like that's totally european

the uh beam pft i read an article about the beam uh the owner of the kings did it i thought it was going to be some really cool story like some little kid was like oh wouldn't it be cool if like a flashlight there's a big flashlight no unfortunately it's not they did like a focus group and had like hired like a PR firm. But the one cool fact that I saw out of it was they had the owner of the Kings like in this focus group and all this talk about like what they're going to do.
Someone pointed out that Virgin Atlantic, the airline, they have those purple lights or it might be blue lights that you walk in and you feel like you're on a vip like club yeah and he basically the owner of the kings was like i want that everywhere in the arena i want just make purple lights everywhere it's smart and they did that and it does look cool it's smart it looks fucking cool if you've ever been on virgin atlantic you know that it's just a relaxing flight from start to finish it's yeah i okay i wish i didn't know that it was a focus group, but I still love the beam. That's how good it is.
It's like, it's completely artificial and created out of nowhere by a bunch of suits. But guess what? It still looks like God's bidet when it shoots up into the sky.
And I'm still all in on the beam. Yeah.
And the beam, the first time the beam ever was lit, it was during the day. So it didn't really work work and then the first time it was lit at night they had

like a bunch of calls to like the police

and like the radio stations being like

what is going on in the sky right now

there's a huge purple beam

so I'm all in on the beam the beam is

great the herder I think started

the beam team hashtag

so like yeah the kings

are true vibes team

it's I had a I had a little

debate online this morning about bandwagons

I mean we're not we're not

Thank you. So, like, yeah, the Kings are true vibes team.
I had a little debate online this morning about bandwagons.

I mean, we're not Kings fans, but, like, if you are a Kings fan that has gotten away from the team,

get back on the bandwagon.

Bandwagons make sports fun.

This is a fun story.

I hope they go deep.

I hope they take down the Warriors, even though I have money on the Warriors.

That's how fun they are. Like.
I bet on the Warriors last night.

I wasn't that mad because I was like, damn, this Kings team is so much fun,

and these fans look like they're having the best time of their life.

Yeah, the best compliment you can get as a team is that people with absolutely no horse in the race

are watching every single game that you play, and you're like, I fucking wish I was a Kings fan.

It would be so cool to be a Kings fan right now.

So that said, I hope they don't blow it. I really do because I'd like to see them advance.
But when Draymond comes back, when Draymond comes back game four, it's going to be, you're going to see, he's going to be fully joker-fied by that point. One last thing about this game that should be, because Malik Monk and De'Aaron Fox get a lot of talk in Sabonis.
Davion Mitchell is an awesome defender. He was doing a very – I mean, Steph will always get his points, but he was awesome.
And when I looked it up, he has an incredible nickname. Does anyone know his nickname here no his nickname is off night

that's a great nickname for a defense guy yeah it is off night yeah he's like when you come play me it's your off night i like that a lot yeah it's i was just like damn that's an awesome nick that's a nickname that should get more love off night i don't know if they're a team of destiny yet but But what's the JV version of the team of Destiny?

Yeah.

They're probably not going to win the series.

They're a team of destiny yet, but they're, what's the JV version of a team of destiny? They're probably not going to win this series. They're a team of fun.
They're a team of fun. Here's what's going to unfortunately happen.
This is where, well, no, no, no, Hank. You know, Hank's right.
I am getting caught up in the beam. I'm trapped in the beam right now.
Here's what's going to happen. And this is, if you're a Kings fans, skip a minute down the podcast.
You don't want to hear this. They're going to beat the Warriors in this series.
It's going to be a great story. It's going to be an incredible story.
The first team to take down the Warriors, the Lakers are then going to beat them. And it's going to be all the bad memories from all the from that series and everything is going to get brought back up.
And that's what's going to happen It's perfectly set up for a team to capture the hearts of America and then the Lakers to basically have us relive the worst moment in Kings history and then just do it again. I think we even called that shot when we had Kirk on the podcast the other day where Scott Foster comes in and just hands game six and seven to the Lakers.
Yeah, yeah. I don't want it to happen.
By the way, if people haven't picked up the Grizzlies – or sorry, the Nuggets Timberwolves series will probably be the series we just never talk about because it's going to be like weird timing, off nights, that stuff. But the – shout out to Nuggets.
They killed the Timberwolves. Timberwolves, I think, what did they score? Like 85 points? They got smoked.
Yeah. My Nuggets look great.
Yeah, exactly. Exactly.
All right. Other games.
We should talk about Nets Sixers on Monday night. Max, you won.

The Nets are not good.

The Nets, it's funny because the Nets are,

you look at them and you're like,

that's a team that could really use like one or two stars,

like a Kevin Durant or a Kyrie Irving,

because they have just some really good role players.

And Mikael Bridges is better than a role player,

but they like built the whole plane out of role players. And you can see it when you're watching a playoff game, and they struggle to score 90 points.
My question for you, Max, though, we saw a playoff James Harden in game two. Yeah, no.
He scored eight points. My take of playoff James Harden is dead died last night because he was so, so bad.
And I was so excited after Saturday. And then last night, I mean, he didn't even belong on the court.
But thank God for Tyrese Maxey. Yeah, Coward called him a role player with a shoe deal.
Yeah, yeah, he was bad. He was so bad.
It was. It was tough.
It was tough. Yeah.
No, you're going to win this series. Yeah.
No, the nets are like, not, they're just like not a good team. I think if the Sixers were playing any other team in the playoffs, they probably lose that game.
And if they're playing any good team in the playoffs, they lose by 30. I also get, I get a little bit worried every time Joel Embiid falls down.
He seems like he grimaces hard every time he hits the ground. He's a big dude and he weighs, he's like heavy as shit.
But when he falls down and he gets up every single time, you're like, is this guy injured? You have to pause for a second. You guys think they should cancel charges? You're trying to cancel charges.
What? I do. Okay, so I talked to, no, listen, I talked to Titus about this.
I think it was in the national championship game. And we came to the conclusion that they should cancel charges if you step in front of a guy and put your hands in front of your nuts.
For two reasons. One, it's not a defensive move.
You can't make a defensive play if your hands are covering your balls. And also, you should be willing to get hit in the nuts to take a charge.
That should be part of the price that you pay. If you want that foul bad enough, you'll stick your boys out there and take a knee to them.
Agreed. I just like saying cancel charges.
Cause the, my college basketball team is built. The whole house is built on charges.
So people get really mad when I say that, but yeah, cancel charges,

fuck charges.

But yeah,

the,

the Sixers did look bad,

but a win's a win.

Quick B ball,

Paul update.

He was electric as usual.

I think he was three for four.

He also,

I'm just going to read a couple of tweets for,

for everyone out there because he had a great dunk.

B ball,

Paul,

we talked about it on Sunday, but he created a Twitter account when-ball paul we talked about on sunday but

he created a twitter account when he was about i don't know 12 years old and uh so he has like the

he has all these tweets that are from a bygone era where tweet twitter was just updating whatever's

going on in your life like i searched it and and he has a tweet from august 2013 that just says

sore throat like that's it sore throat so he he's the best. But he had a couple bangers.
One was, I come watch TV, go outside, come back in, masturbate 15 minutes, do homework, watch TV again, and eat. Tell me if this is not what all boys do.
This is a 13-year-old b-ball Paul. That's facts.
It's so true. It's the best.
I hate the dentist. The shit is so nasty.
Watching this Harry Potter movie, what the fuck is Slytherin? This one actually is suspect. This is actually the first time I was like, what is going on with B-Ball Paul? He just had one that said, up all night watching George Lopez.
Oh, George Lopez is funny. B-Ball Paul, go to Goers.
Doesn't it sound like a screen name from a Law & Order episode where they're going through a high school kid's social media profile and they're like, B-Ball Paul, yeah, the star of the team this is these are all his thoughts yeah yeah i mean we will get him we will get him on the show at some point i i do i would like to ask him if he just went to de paul because he's like they named a school after me because i wouldn't be surprised because that would make perfect sense one last one he said just had some good ass spaghetti hope i spelled it right like that just had some good-ass spaghetti. Hope I spelled it right.

Like, that's just B-Ball Paul. Did he spell it right? Yeah, he spelled it right.
It's a hard word to spell. That's why I always just say pasta.
That's honestly pretty good. And he was 13 years old and spelled spaghetti correctly? He did.
So, yeah, we're going to hopefully do a merch deal with B-Ball Paul. I did buy a sweatshirt from him today, which means I literally Venmo'd him $100 and sent him my address.
That's how he's doing it. He's selling his sweatshirts.
He tweeted before the playoffs, hit me up if you want one, $100. And people, Max said that people like in Philly are seeing him go to the UPS store and mailing the sweatshirts so i love that can we just say that he's selling them out of the back of his car pretty much yeah yeah i like that it's also i respect the grind it's also maybe a little concerning after a win a playoff win like or like a day off that he's just he's filling orders on a day off i don't know maybe no i i respect i respect the hell out of that you got to make money he's a what's his contract how much does people paul he's making like three three no it's it's like three years four million total it's not that much total yeah it not that much when james horn's your teammate and he's taking out to strip clubs every night that money goes fast people paul like if peopleall Paul probably wishes he could treat right now.
That feeling when your $200 million teammate keeps making you drop racks at the strip club on a Wednesday. James Barnes is like, I'll cover half the room in money.
B-Ball Paul, you cover the other half. And he's like, one's okay? All right, next game, Hank, your Celtics, that's serious.
Yeah, so I was officially, obviously, beforehand, I was talking and focused on the Hawks, focused on the Hawks. Tonight, I was really just starting to do some thinking, and the only question really is, is there any chance the Heat win? And if they do win, does that mean we play the Heat? I don't think they re-seed.

They don't re-seed. Okay, so that was the question.

That question was answered.

In that case...

You could have Googled it.

No, no, save it for the show.

Save it for the show.

I was walking you through my thoughts.

And now, so I'm just ready to destroy Philly.

They're B-Ball Paul.

I can't wait for you to...

Wait, wait, wait.

He's not going to play.

He's going to score zero points.

Celtics are probably going to win in a sweep or five.

Don't do this.

Our best friend, Blake Griffin, who actually you should be rooting for,

is going to play the same minutes as B-Ball Paul and absolutely fuck him up.

And then what are you going to do?

All right.

So that's a compelling point that Hank just made.

Like, if we're going to be B-Ball Paul guys,

we have to be prepared for the fact that he's going to be going one-on-one against our guy blake but i've i've thought about this i this is sick that like it popped in my head while i was just i don't even know what i was doing i was driving somewhere and it popped in my head and i was like how do we get around this blake griffin issue because we i like blake griffin more than i like hank um I like Hank. So how do we figure this out? Sounds like a good one.
So, well, here's where I've come to the conclusion. I think we've got to root against Hank, but then if the Celtics win the title, we just flip it and we're like, we're so happy for our friend Blake.
We always were rooting for him. Yeah, well, I'm rooting for Josh Harris.
I don't really care about the 76ers, but I can't. I don't think I can root against Blake.
If Blake's getting, if he's getting over, what's the cutoff? I have to have like a minutes limit because if he's playing any sort of significant minutes whatsoever, I can't root against him. But if he's playing like five minutes a game, then I can't.
Then I can't absolutely root against the Celtics. You know what I'm going to do? I'm just going to root for Blake and I'm going to root for B-Ball Paul.
Because I watched the whole Sixers game last night. I became B-Ball Paul tracker online.
I did not care if the Sixers won or lost. I do not care at all about the Philadelphia 76ers.
I only care about B-Ball Paul. That's the same as Blake Griffin.
Like, i'm just going to be a blake griffin here's a question big hat the question to wait a b-ball paul we should i'm trying to make money for you hank we should do a b-ball paul and blake griffin combined total points over oh i thought you were going to say like a t-shirt where it's like it's like godzilla versus uh t-ray or what is it godzilla yeah king cock versus godzilla it's b-ball paul blake griffin the battle for the east we'll definitely make those shirts yes that would fucking rock the killer bees yeah yeah they're just like on the yeah it's like both of them are just so big they're on the east coast and they're just they're basically like trying to dunk over each other. We have two hoops, so they're both trying to dunk at the same time.
Question, Big Cat. Game 7, TD Garden, Joel Embiid's fouls out.
Robert Williams fouls out. Al Horford fouls out.
Yeah, I'm rooting for Blake. I'm rooting for Blake in that.
That's a no-bra all right that's a no-brainer if Blake plays I'm rooting for him and if he does well that means that's fine I look I got no I got no hate Hank I I think this is the best team in the playoffs right now like I dude Derek White is like Derek White is really good so is Brogdon Brogdon Brogdon and Robert Williams is playing like he's healthy. He was playing healthy, active.
It's always scary with him because it's like you really – when you see him play healthy, it's so exciting. And you're like, if he's healthy, we will win the championship.
But he's just so inconsistent and he gets – he's a little fragile. So it's worrisome.
But if he stays healthy, good things are coming. And I'm staying consistent with my Sixers Celtics.
I just want maximum pain no matter what. And it's most likely going to happen to Max because I just want the show.
I want the show to have maximum amount of pain. I want like 3-0 to reverse sweep.
I want like a game seven with a controversial ending. I want as much pain.
I don't care who gives me the pain. I want to drink your milkshake pain.
I've also thought about, I spent some significant time thinking again, like I've moved on from this series. I'm thinking about the Sixers.
I'm ready to talk about the bet and I've come to my terms. Okay.
So this is you versus Max, Sixers, Celtics are your full beard no mustache okay because pft we were debating uh earlier in the show or earlier in the day by the way we did faqs back in the studio because pft we didn't want to have them have to do like a two-hour zoom tonight um so we were debating whether they get their mustache i

was saying they should get just this they get so i was max wants the mustache and i think max would probably look decent with the mustache no i you don't understand how bad my chins are going to look like the fact that you think this is what that will distract that's disgusting that's my point. I think you know how it is big

we should do. I

think it's going to be

I think the soul patch is the right move. Hank and I were actually talking about the soul patch the other night.
Yeah, right here. It's going to be soul patch summer.
I think soul patches are making a huge comeback. I think one of you guys should lead the charge on that.
Shave everything but that little patch right below your little lip. Yeah, I'm fine with that.
But yeah, the conclusion I came to is no mustache. Okay.
It should be soul patch. Not to mention that whatever.
Not to mention. We could talk about it when we actually get here, but it should be like an escalator agreement.
Like if one team gets swept, you have to shave your face for three months. Like that should absolutely be part of it.
No, no, no.

That's bullshit.

There's a margin.

We're not doing that.

We're not doing that.

4-0, 4 months.

We're not doing that.

No.

Yeah, 4 months.

All right.

We'll talk about it.

We'll talk about it.

If you get the basketball.

If you get the basketball.

I got to be able to talk to chicks in Chicago.

No, that's facts.

Yeah.

I'm down for a sweep clause, and we're definitely in the favors there,

but also I can't.

Worst case scenario, that can't happen. Summertime shy and Hank's got no beard.
Nah. If you get swept, you need the wound room.
No, I am not down for a Sweep Claws. Maybe a tattoo? A tattoo? Yes.
For the sweep? Full bald head? Just bick everything? No. See, like, this is bullshit.
This is more things that are going against me. As an impartial bystander, Max is coming off scary.
Yeah, he is. He's coming off real scary.
Why wouldn't I? Those are the best bets to make. You've got to have a little bit of a team.
Everything between Celtics and Sixers, where would I have confidence? What do you mean the last game of the year, Joel Embiid had like 60 points, won the MVP. That was sick, right? Oh, man.
All right, we'll table it until it is official, and then we'll get the whole thing. Either way, the Celtics, I mean, are so much better than the Hawks.
Derek White is, like, I think he probably suffers a little from being on a team with Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum. In, like the general public realizing how good he's playing.
He's playing out of his mind. He's he's, he had MVP chance tonight.
Yeah. And it was crazy.
Defense is really good. I mean, they just gotta stay healthy.
They just gotta stay healthy. It's that we're in, we're in Celtics and Bruins are like, just stay fucking healthy.
Trey young. I, there was a few possessions where he just basically

spent the entire shot clock trying to get the correct pick and roll, and the Celtics were just switching perfectly or pre-switching. They were just doing everything, and Trey Young was in a blender.
He didn't know what to do. You know, that's going to be next week.
James Harden. Just so you know, the Celtics won by 13 tonight, and the Sixers won by 12 last night, and we're crowning the Celtics as the fucking champions of the world.
Well, not all wins are created equal, Max. I mean, but let's call a spade a spade here.
All right, so let's do a sleep bet then. So if you're that confident, then why don't you agree to the terms? No, no, no.
I just want to acknowledge what's going on in this show. Yeah, you're scared.
No, this is what Max does. Max gets scared and then he retreats into his little hole and then he thinks to himself, oh, fuck, they got me good.
They got me down in my hole so bad right now. And then he lashes out and he makes no sense when he lashes out.
He's like, I just got to show some aggression to prove that I'm not retreating my cubby right now.

He just goes home and just looks in his mirror and he's like, don't let him do that to you again.

You're fucking Philly tough.

And he's like, I'll show them.

I'll show them.

And then he's like, you guys are pussies.

You want to do it about me?

We're just doing like the Sixers are playing the Nets.

The Hawks fucking suck. The Sixers beat the Hawks the Friday before the playoffs started without their top six guys.
Like, let's not talk about how good the Celtics look against the fucking Hawks. Okay, so make the bet.
I can't wait for this series. This is going to be so awesome.
Yeah. All right.
Next, Knicks-Cavs. Cavs whomped the Knicks.
First time the Cavs won a playoff game without LeBron James since 1998. Who was the leading scorer for the Cavs in that game? Sojournis.
Mark Price. Sean Kemp.
Wow. Wow.
Yeah. RIP.
1998. Sean Kemp was the leading scorer in that game.
That game also had on the bench Fred Hoiberg on the Pacers and Scott Brooks on the Cavs. So future coaches.
A lot of legends in that game. So Drew was in that game.
I completely memory hold Sean Kemp on the Cavs. Had no idea.
And also I do know that Sean Kemp is not dead, but he did get it. They arrested Sean Kemp.
The Rain Man's in prison right now. quickly quinn snyder was dressed like an absolute bum on the cabs had no idea that and also i do know that sean kipp is not dead but he did get they they arrested sean kipp or the rain man's in prison also quickly quinn snyder was dressed like an absolute bum on the sidelines tonight they cut to him i was like who was standing up i was like oh that's the coach my like he's realizing he made like the dumbest decision ever because he joined the hawks mid-season when he probably could have had any job he wanted this offseason.

But yeah, the only reason I remember the Sean Kemp Cavs

is I loved those jerseys.

You know, the weird jerseys.

They were the late 90s.

Remember the Pistons did it?

Yeah, so many teams did just weird, funky-ass jerseys

that looked bad in the time but have aged kind of well.

All right. Newtons did it.
Yeah, so many teams did just weird, funky-ass jerseys that looked bad in the time, but have aged kind of well. Grizzlies were another one of those teams.
Grizzlies. Love the Vancouver Grizzlies.
Big time, big time. Okay, so, yeah, this game, I have two thoughts on this game.
One is it was nice to see the Cavs make an adjustment where they were like, hey, Donovan Mitchell, you don't have to shoot every time. And Darius Garland went off instead.
And so did Karis Levert and Donovan Mitchell actually had 13 assists. So it was like, Hey, this is actually, it might not be a good idea to have Donovan Mitchell shoot 35 times and Darius Garland, not attempt a field goal in the fourth quarter.
So that was a good adjustment. The second thing, Tom Thibodeau is the most stubborn man in the world because he had Julius Randle in this game down 20 with two minutes left.
You would think the guy who had Derek Rose as the one seed and they were up 12 on the Sixers with a minute left when Derek Rose tore his ACL, which would have happened anyway. I'm not going to pretend that wouldn't have happened anyway.
You'd think he would learn, and I think Julius Randle's okay, but it's like, how can he keep doing this? How does he keep getting away with this? It's crazy. It's crazy.
I mean, Tibbs is who he is. He's not going to change, ever.
I don't want him to change. Because Tibbs, he's the perfect coach for like some team that is uh like middling like teetering on the edge of being a solid good team if you get tom tibodeau on your on uh coaching your team then you know that you're going to be like you're going to be great going into the playoffs you're going to be like yes we can do this we've got tibbs great defensive coach and then it's not going to work and then he's going to do it again somewhere else.
He's just a very solid coach. He's a very, very solid coach, but the playing of players, latent blowouts, and also he runs every player in the ground, but it was just nuts.
Julius Randle, I think he took a very hard fall off an attempted block on a breakaway. And there was a moment where it's like,

he came down so hard on his tailbone.

He's going to be out for the rest of the playoffs.

They were down 20.

It was two minutes left. It was like,

even the announcers ready Miller was like,

this is insane that he's doing this.

It would,

I've lived it.

It would be,

if you're a Knicks fan,

you have every right to be upset and be like,

dude,

if you can't come back in the game, just fucking put your best players on the bench. Crazy.
All right, last one. The Suns are still alive.
I might have prematurely texted Russillo when it looked like the Clippers were going to, like in the second quarter, the Clippers looked like they were cruising. I just texted them, do the Suns still have COVID? That was a mistake.
But, yeah, the Suns, what we thought the Suns were, they showed up with like two minutes left in the second quarter and then the entire second half. Yeah, this was a legacy matchup between Chris Paul and Scott Foster.
And all the stats were going out there. We may have passed around some fake stats about Scott Foster last year, but all the signs were pointing to like the, the fixes in this is going to be Clippers game and credit to credit to the sons.
I'm looking at the box score right now. Westbrook was good.
And so Westbrook was, why was great? Why is literally if, if they had a, if they did a trial trying to prosecute load management, the defense would call Kawhi Leonard as their lead witness or their lead testimony. Because he is the, like, what? Load management works for Kawhi Leonard.
Well, yeah, but he was also like a player. He's a finals MVP.
Like, he's just that guy. No, but he was doing load management before he was a finals MVP.
That's the whole thing. Like he doesn't get load management.
Kawhi Leonard gets system updates. He upgrades the new operating system.
And it works for him. Like load management, if you were trying to say what is load management, why would you do load management, you would just point to Kawhi and be like, this guy who barely plays the regular season

and when he plays the playoffs is incredible.

And I rest my case.

Yeah, what were you saying?

Give us your thoughts because I know obviously you didn't watch,

but your thoughts on the box score.

Just my thoughts on the box score.

I was looking at it real quick,

and I see that Chris Paul actually didn't play that well tonight so i retract that washed um deandre ayton's back it sounds like he's fully bought in and he's going to be committed to playing hard every single minute that he's in every single game and he's all in on this son's team and he's bought into monty williams and the system that they're trying to run in phoenix so deandre ayton is officially. I expect that to continue well into the future.
Kevin Durant sucked tonight. He had 25 points only.
And then Devin Booker's a beast. And Torrey Craig is also, for some reason, like he was awesome in game one.
He's awesome tonight again. As far as Westbrook goes, we did say like, oh, my God, he's by far the worst player on the court with about, what, five minutes left in game one when he was demanding the ball and his teammates just wouldn't pass the ball to him.
Something happened to Westbrook. I think maybe making a good defensive play at the end of the game and also getting into a fight afterwards with a fan.
That was at halftime. He loves to feel hated.
Oh the best part it was you can't be doing you can't be doing that also westbrook you're you're a good looking guy you're in pretty good shape i don't think you need to be going around with your shirt like surgically taped to your nipples at all point right like we don't we don't have to you don't have to be doing ezekiel elliott everywhere yeah i think he was i think he was pulling his jersey back on coming out of the locker room i guess apparently that was a covid cut through so when there weren't fans it's like 20 seconds to go from the visiting locker room to the court wind horse had the whole breakdown and if you go the long way it's like two minutes so players still used the covid uh you know when there were no fans in the entire building they use the covid cut through but now they're fans and those fans will probably say hey west brick and then you'll lose your mind and yell in front of the little kid yeah it was it was a very very funny video and that dude looked that dude looked like he was ready to fight too. He was about it.

He didn't back down at all.

Like I can recognize a guy that's been in a few scraps in his life.

That guy, I'm not saying he's done time in prison,

but he knows how to handle himself at 2.30 a.m. in Scottsdale.

And Westbrook, I mean, game one, he was three for 19, but he was making a shitload of defensive plays, rebounds.

And there is something to be said for a guy who's like,

I'm just going to keep trying to force it and make things happen.

And he hit those free throws at the end too.

He just makes things happen, even if he's going to shoot three for 19.

I'm sure he's going to be very consistent with this

throughout the rest of this playoff series too.

He's back.

Okay, officially by the stat sheet, Russell Westbrook officially back.

I want to throw one last thing at you, PFT,

and then we can talk a little hockey and then do hot seat, cool, thrown.

It popped in my head when I was watching Cavs-Knicks tonight,

and I tweeted out, who are the top players that you know deep down they're retired,

but if they were on the court, you wouldn't even blink. You'd be like, oh, like oh yeah no they're still playing because i was watching the calves game and i was like is corver still out there and then i looked it up and he retired like three years ago and i but if he's an executive he hit a three i would have been like oh yeah corver he's still playing uh let's see mellow always know i have some good ones that people like people responded with too

but yeah go ahead uh paul pierce okay i could see him playing it's it's like it's it's it's basically the guy who you didn't you don't really remember retiring because he never really you know what i mean like someone someone threw out rondo rondo if rondo was in a playoff series right now you would not plank.

You'd be like,

yeah,

of course.

The other ones,

there was a couple football ones. Torrey Smith was a good football one.
Torrey Smith was just catching a touchdown week one. And then someone aptly said, I fully expect Adrian Peterson to be on the Colts next year, which makes so much sense.
I could see it in my head, him backing up Jonathan Taylor and just just being like fuck this why aren't i getting my carries yeah i mean there are a bunch of guys in the nfl that are like oh i thought that guy retired like five seasons yeah yeah like every every year uh matt moore yeah yeah when he would play it's like i thought that guy that guy's been retired since 2012 yeah mercedes lewis but it's the reverse. The guys who you think, like, Boris Diao and Leandro Barbosa

were two that were thrown out there, and I think those two.

Like, if you saw Boris Diao's fat ass just running down the court

in this Suns Clippers series on either team,

you wouldn't be like, hey, what's going on here?

Yeah, Big Z might be that way too.

Yes.

Yeah, or Vergeau.

Vergeau definitely could be in a series.

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All right, should we talk a little hockey?

Yeah, let's do it. the leafs fucking suck yeah i'm you know what the leafs are on my list now they're they've made they've made the chargers list oh the one game so the c words you know what did you watch the game this is this is one of those classic events where i think I'm able to outsmart decades of incompetence.
Like the same exact thing happened last year when the She-Words in the playoffs. I did the Leafs last year.
So you're just – Yeah. No, I did too.
I did the Leafs last year too. I think that I'm like one year ahead.
I can predict when the market is going to shift entirely. I can time the market.
And this is just a good reminder to me that we can't the market times us we don't yeah i feel similar about what happened with the oilers on uh late monday night into tuesday because they were up 3-1 then they were up 3-2 with like 20 seconds left they lose in overtime the place was rocking and they scored a fake goal in overtime. Like it seemed like it was over for a second.
They got called back. I don't know if you saw that.
Yeah. The whole thing.
It's just like I can't do this with the Oilers. They have to win game two.
I'm trying to think. I mean, the Bruins look incredible.
We did Islanders Minute with memes before FAQs. He's talked himself into them not being – they're okay.
They're fine. But playoff hockey is back.
It's awesome to watch. Hank and I were talking like this is the best – one of the best times of year because you just – hockey is just so fucking intense and there's game after game after game.
It is great do get a little bit of fomo when your team's not in playoff hockey but also there's something magical about overtime playoff hockey when you don't have a dog in the fight when it's somebody else that's living and dying with every single pass every single turnover every single uh like close off sides that sucks if you overtime hockey it is the absolute best if your team's not in it, and regular playoff hockey is the worst if your team isn't actively in it. Now, I still like it.
I still watch it, but every time I'm watching, like if it's the Oilers-Kings playing, I'm just thinking to myself, man, this would be so cool. If the capital is awesome.

Big time,

big time.

Yeah.

I mean, it was a great first two nights of playoff hockey because they had two

overtime games on Monday.

Hank,

how's your overtime?

Hank bet every over every game to go into overtime basketball and

hot.

Yeah,

a little.

Yeah.

I mean,

I guess we'll give the hot tip out to the people too.

I'm going to do this every single night of the first round until both

first rounds are over.

Well,

and here's where I fucked up.

I'll see you next time. and hockey.
Yeah, I mean, I guess we'll give the hot tip out to the people, too. I'm going to do this every single night of the first round until both first rounds are over.
Well, and here's where I fucked up. I applied it to basketball and hockey, but in basketball, they don't have an offering of, like, the game to go into overtime.
I did fourth quarter draw, but that just means that both teams just have to score the same amount of points in the fourth quarter. So thankfully, there's no overtime in basketball because that would have been catastrophic.
And if we can't figure it out in the sportsbook, I'm just going to do hockey. But I will be doing – it's round robin.
So you just bet every game to go to overtime round robin. So if two games go to overtime, that's a big winner.

That's the thinking. Now, you guys, I'm not a numbers guy.

Hank, I know you've become a numbers guy recently.

Maybe you can help me with this math here.

How many minutes were played in the Kings-Oilers game?

Because there's 60 minutes in the first three periods.

And then how many minutes in overtime? Four minutes. No.
There were like... There were four minutes this overtime? So we'll just say 65 minutes were played.
How many minutes do you think Connor McDavid was on the ice? Well, 28. Connor McDavid was on the ice for 25 minutes.
Disgusting. Pathetic.
Disgusting. Fraud.
Disgusting. A lot of people are saying fraud.
Connor McDavid is playing the same amount of minutes as, I'm going to just find an analogy. B-Ball Paul, probably.
Yeah, B-Ball Paul, maybe a little less. I didn't want to throw him under the bus there.
Danny Green, who is part of that list of guys that you can't believe are still playing? Or Obi Toppin for the Knicks? Oh, Jeff Green, I assumed, has retired every offseason for the last five years. But he's playing.
He's on the Nuggets, right? Yes, yes. My Nuggets.
Yeah, let's go. He's probably still sneaky young, too.
Jeff Green will be playing in the NBA. He's never.
Yes. He's always been sneaky young.
He'll be playing until he's 65. I love the sneaky young guys.
I can't remember who I was talking about today because, oh, Allen Robinson got traded to the Steelers or will get traded to the Steelers. And we've talked about this on the show before, but Brandon Cooks being 29 still is crazy because he's been on like a million teams.
But yeah, the sneaky young guys, they sneak up on you. Okay.
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Hot seat, cool throw. My hot seat is Patrick Reed's wife.
Okay. Use golf facts.
Use golf facts, yeah. So it was always kind of known that she was used golf facts, just a burner account, always tweeting pro Patrick Reed stuff.
We've talked about her a bunch on the show, but it was never confirmed. A guy that works for Nolang, Uptron, tweeted a picture saying he was sent a picture of Patrick Reed at a game, made a joke about how, because Patrick Reed and his wife went to Fenway.
The PGA Tour gave them tickets. This was like six years ago.
PGA Tour gave them tickets. Patrick Reed and his wife complained about the free tickets they got and said they had to upgrade themselves and were like bitching at the PGA Tour.
And so the No Laying Up guy made a joke in reference to that saying saying use golf acts didn't attend due to the quality of the seats.

And she replied from the use golf acts account,

a picture of where her seats were with her sitting with them,

like Dustin Johnson,

Patrick green,

the guy.

So confirmed,

confirmed.

Justine,

right?

My favorite part about,

about the two of them is,

is she's his caddy sometimes because he alienates caddies so quickly that she has to fill in. He doesn't have any friends.
The Twitter account is so, so, so funny. It's probably the last.
I don't know if burners, I don't know if they're going to be a thing forever. I guess people are always doing them, but it's one of the last great burners.
It really is. It is is it is like it's a hall of fame first ballot hall of fame burner because she got exposed years ago and keeps using it yeah yeah it's awesome i love it everyone knows that burner what'd you say you make pfc made a burner right true oh yeah yeah i i had a burner yeah burners are awesome burner life is the shit i was just replying to tweets left and right nobody knew it was me just getting all these takes off they're too hot for podcasts yeah i had a burner person young sound bob it is fun to just pop on and just like stir some shit up and then just walk away i get it what kevin durant does uh all right your, my cool throne, I guess it's AI.
I probably should put this on the hot seat, but I watched the 60 minutes AI thing and I'm fully convinced. I figured I should just get it on record that probably within like a month AI is going to build robots, take over the world and we're all going to die.
Like I'm, I'm not to be like overly dramatic or anything, but I think AI, like, I think it's just a matter of time, and it's been real. Yeah.
What did I say? Like, I'm three months old. Oh, Billy called this.
Billy was the first person to predict that AI was going to take over technology and then dominate the world. Must credit Billy and Hot Takes.
We should all be Luddites.

I had that same thought when I saw iRobot,

but I didn't say it out loud, so Billy gets credit.

Well, you remember the old...

And now it's actually happening.

Yeah, but all movies end up being true.

Same Private Ryan.

That happened.

JFK.

Exactly.

Gone in 60... Gone Fast Five.
Yeah. All these things happened.
It was – remember that thought experiment that we talked about in this show, Rocco's Basilisk, which is that at some point AI is going to take over civilization, and it'll become so smart that it'll be able to go back in time and figure out which human beings helped AI get developed and which ones were anti-AI. I'm pro-AI.
And then it'll go back in time and punish you. Yeah.
So for the record, I, for one, welcome our new software overlords. Dude, I have a poster of AI in my bedroom.
Always looked up to AI. When I was 13, it was play basketball, go outside, come inside, jack off to AI, go outside, eat dinner.
That's what boys do. That's what boys do.
I hate AI, so if I look bad on the internet, it's because they went back in time and made me look stupid. Oh, man.

Yeah, that's what AI did. Wow, this thing's really good.
Because I'm anti-AI. Damn, this one.
This is actually, we recorded this 20 years ago. AI is just producing the podcast now.
So my theory is that Elon Musk, he's got the Neuralink implant in his brain right now, so he's part AI. I think that so many people distrust Elon Musk that he's purposely going on the record warning people about AI.
So people would be like, oh, if Elon cares about it, it's probably not that big of a problem. And then making AI actually exist because so many people are like, fuck Elon.
Jake, remind us to do a takey for two online person of the year because Elon's definitely in the running. He said in an interview he did in the past.
He's doing interviews everywhere. But he said something about if he saw.
What? Come on the show. Open invite.
Come on the show, Elon. Yes, absolutely.
We'll interview Elon Musk. And we'll just basically be like, why aren't you on a sports team, dude? Why'd you take away my checkmark? Yeah.
Well, I'm going to get to that. I don't got one.
He said that aliens don't exist because he would be the one person who would know. And if he knew that aliens existed, he would tweet out the proof because it would get so many likes.
That's probably how you know that Elon doesn't know. Yeah.
But, I mean. He really needs some friends.
It's so big. Like some actual, some friends that are real solid dudes that will bust his balls.
Give him the Packers. And just give him, yeah, you do need a sports team.
Be cool, Eli. Or Elon, just play.
It's fucking annoying seeing him do this when he could be spending his money on all the fun stuff. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
All right, your hot seat, PFT? My hot seat is popcorn. Yes.
Put popcorn on the hot seat. I figured somebody was going to talk about this, so took over the internet.
This is also like a maybe just log off moment, but yesterday the internet was filled with debate on Blue Jays pitcher, Anthony Bass. So his wife took a flight on United Airlines and had a two-year-old and a five-year-old.
And they were served popcorn on the flight. And then Anthony Bass tweeted at the airline complaining because the flight attendant made his 25 25 week this is my big problem with it how pregnant was his wife 20 okay say okay so i have i i've already said this take so if i'm gonna get crucified i'll get crucified i i live with a pregnant woman pregnancy is very difficult for women.
It's crazy. I'm a pussy.
I would never be able to do it. 22 weeks is not that pregnant.
It's pregnant. It's about like four and a half, five months.
So there's a belly, but it's not like when you see an eight-month pregnant woman, it's like they are going through hell to even get around. Right.
So my biggest problem with this was that he said 22 weeks, and then I had to sit down and break down how pregnant that was in my brain by doing math. That's what pissed me off.
Just say months. If you had said months, I would have been like, okay, that's...
No, he did that on purpose, though. I i would have been like you're probably showing a little bit um but you're also able to get around okay and there's

a good chance that the flight attendant didn't even know that she was pregnant if she's only

like what four and a half months confused again four and a half five months pregnant so just be

normal pregnant people i'm begging you be just talk to me yes i don't get weeks four and a half

months if he tweeted four and a half months he would have i mean he already got roasted like

Thank you. months pregnant so just be normal pregnant people i'm begging you just talk to me yes i don't get four and a half months if he tweeted four and a half months he would have i mean he already got roasted like the the guy there's so many layers to how stupid he is one is you're never gonna win tweeting that two you have a 7 11 era you just open the floodgate like if you had a 1 9 era you can tweet that and just dunk on people.
He just got obliterated. And three, listen, everyone's got a parent, their own kids.
One of his kids is five years old. My son's about to be four.
He would be picking up that popcorn. If I told like you, the kid can pick up the popcorn if that's the deal.
Yeah. And I do think the flight attendant was probably being a dick.
That also is true. The other part of the equation I don't know is the actual conversation that happened between the flight attendant and the wife.
We're hearing this from Anthony Bass, but I don't know if the flight attendant was yelling at his wife, like, get on your hands and knees and pick that shit up before you get off this fucking plane. Or if she was just like, Hey, uh, can you pick up this popcorn that my child spilled? The flight was like, no, I can't.
You pick it up. Like who knows where the truth is.
It's probably somewhere in the middle, but for him to go on this rampage and then to end it by saying like, and I'm dealing with, I'm dealing with this flight attendant privately with United Airlines, implying that you're going to get this person fired. You're never going to win that battle on the internet because then all of a sudden everybody's a flight attendant.
Or people deputize themselves as speaking for this entire service industry if they're like a waiter or a waitress, and they're like, I see how you're talking to this flight attendant. Let me tell you, it's not that easy.
And so, of course, everyone's just going to jump on you and just lay into you for this take um but it's been a while since we had a good old-fashioned remember that guy bean dad this felt a lot like bean dad or the guy who bean dad came on his cats did not come he was never near his cats with cum uh but it was a good it was good like innocent enough internet scrap where people were just weighing in and getting their jokes off. It was kind of nice.
I enjoyed it. It just – it shocks me that he – when he sent that tweet being like, this will go well.
Well, he – I think he sent it just being like trying to tell on the flight attendant and get the flight attendant fired. Yeah, right.
Which is – there's no other reason to do it. Or maybe he was just saying, like, United, this is bad, hoping that like i don't know a couple free tickets but dude you you play professional baseball you fly for free all the time i don't think that you need free tickets um so either way he doesn't look good the um yeah it's uh i'm actually in a holding pattern right now to skull fuck i'm gonna have the skull fuck skull fuck of my lifetime with Air France if they don't fix what's happening with SVP.
So people probably listen to SVP's podcast. If you remember when he was on with us the Masters Sunday from the airport and he got a call and he was like, I got something I got to deal with.
I'll deal with it after. His house is burning down.
So really sad. It sucks really really bad for him he's trying to figure everything out air france wasn't going to refund a ticket a ticket with he and his wife going to paris this weekend because his house burned down and they're like yeah sorry nothing we can do so i'm i told him if he wants me i will not sleep until i skull fuck air france forever.
This is the worst thing Air France has ever done. This would be a legacy game for me, though, if he calls on me.
Yeah. What is skull fucking in French? Someone look that up.
Find that for me. Jake, can you look that up? You can cuss in French.
I give you permission. Menage a skull.
Menage a skull. I kind of like that.
And then what's your cool throne my cool throne is dan snyder um so a report has surfaced and we talked about it a little bit on monday's show um about a mysterious seven billion dollar bid that's coming in and i told you guys it's a bullshit bid the guy has he has no money he's not a rich guy he tried to buy the timberwolves and the nba laughed at him and said, okay, whatever. So there was a report that came out today and this

popped up on my phone and I had to almost laugh and just tip my hat to Dan Snyder for being such an asshole to even reach levels that I had never even really considered truly. The $7 billion is allegedly being funneled to Davis, the guy that went to Duke and now he's a tech investor.
The $7 billion has allegedly been funneled from Saudi Arabia. And it's Mohammed bin Salman that's trying to buy an NFL team, getting money into the United States through an intermediary.
And I just have to tip my hat, my hat to Dan Snyder for like, if this son of a bitch could sell the team to quite literally the one person in the entire world that would make me more upset than if it was Dan Snyder owning this team. And that's just levels of, it feels personal at this point between me and Dan.
And I still have every reason to believe that it's going to be him. And it was Josh Harris.
And then the other guy, Mitchell Rails, were sitting next to each other at the Sixers game courtside last night. So I'm pretty sure that means that their bid's doing well.

They're happy with each other.

But if it gets sold to the kingdom of Saudi Arabia,

I think I have no choice but then to become – I've got to switch over.

Sorry, the Emir of Qatar.

I'm a Saudi guy.

I'm a Saudi guy for life.

I've got the whole getup me and Donnie bought when we were overseas overseas I think I just have to become unapologetically a live tour guy and whatever F1 crew that he sponsors and then just full-blooded commanders fan and just just accept the fact that I've been beaten I've been I will have fully been conquered by Dan Snyder at that point so I hope it doesn't come to it but it was it was one of those moments where i i was just i was laughing i was like well well done you son i mean we hope it doesn't happen but it would be you would have fun the heel turn and just defending him and just going like all in on it it would be fun a full-time mbs stan i can do you gotta get paid though oh that's the thing yeah i well my payment would be just uh remaining alive yeah that's true that's a good point it would just be him not sending his his bone saw guys at me uh listen jamal khashoggi he was actually a political activist in saudi arabia before he moved to the united states that's what they're not telling you the mainstream. I'm getting much.
That's that is wild. I mean, he probably will get a little more money out of Josh Harris.
He's I think I might have said this before, but Khashoggi is the only guy in the world that probably hates the Washington Post more than Dan Snyder. Absolutely.
All right. My hot seat is our guy, Steven Adams.
So they did a anonymous poll. The Athletic did it of NBA players, and they did like a bunch of different things, like most overrated player.
Trey Young won that, which that's got to hurt so bad to just have that be like every all my peers think I'm overrated. That's a fucked up category.
It is. There was a category, who in the league would you least like to fight? Steven Adams was two.
James Johnson was one. Really? James Johnson, which I didn't realize, is a black belt in karate and owns a 20 and 0 record in kickboxing matches.

So a fair one, but still Steven Adams felt like that,

that felt like his, his title to lose.

Yeah. That category was, was basically made for him.

I'm, I'm shocked that I didn't know about James Johnson.

I would have said maybe the Celtics coach. He's got,

he's got the experience again.

Yeah. He likes to get choked out, but yeah, the yeah, the most the most overrated player.
The good thing for Trae Young is he had 14.8% of the votes and other won with 31% of the votes. Oh, yeah.
So he didn't even win that. Yeah, other won.
And then my cool throne is me because I'm an unfairified bad boy now. I lost my checkmark, which at first I thought Elon was actually being a man of his word and taking away checkmarks.

Turns out it is a new rule that if you change your name, so I changed my name to B-Ball, Paul Tracker, they take away your checkmark.

So I'm out in the wilderness.

I got to figure out what to do.

I might have to buy Twitter.

I didn't realize Billy also bought Twitter.

Oh, yeah, he actually told us that. No, I didn't realize Billy also bought Twitter.
So, oh yeah, he actually told us that.

No, I didn't. He bought Twitter Blue.

Yeah, you did, Billy.

By the time this is being recorded,

my blue checkmark will be gone.

Why do you say that?

I can hear the keyboard.

Yeah, he's clicking it right now.

But, I mean, everyone's is gonna be gone on the 20th.

Yeah, 420 is the last time. Mine won't be

because I paid for Twitter Blue.

Because this motherfucker

paid for Twitter. I might end up paying for it, but I'm going to live as an unverified guy.
It's been, I don't know, I've been probably eight years since I've been unverified. So, yeah, it's fun.
Is this even the real big cat talking to us right now? Who knows? I've not decided. I don't think'm gonna buy it but yes you will the long videos why why would i why would i ever why would you say it in the first place i was it was forced upon me we've had this conversation i will say i tweeted a clip from monday show and then i shared it from the part of my take account over 220 so it's useful very cool very cool wait so jake i can just have you tweet out the long videos and then i'll just tweet your video i can also okay i don't care who the fuck is watching a two minute and 30 second video on twitter part of my day clips obviously but those are way too long besides there's wait so if you're not gonna if you're not gonna do it for the long videos what would you do it for, Big Cat? If they tell me that, like, we got that email from the social team being like, it helps engagement.
So I'm undecided. So we'll see.
Somebody said that I was making a political statement when I said that I didn't plan to pay for Twitter Blue. Is that a political statement to say that you're not going to buy something? Oh, I forgot.
I guess it is. Everything's a political statement now because it's just triggered in my mind.
DeMar Hamlin's clear to play football, and I said, shout out everyone's prayers. They worked.
And that got a lot of people upset. But it reminded me, Billy, how are you going to answer the fact that you thought he died?

I never actually

thought he died.

It was a bit.

If you go back, I was like, okay, I'll play the part.

The clone.

I literally, on the thing, I was like, okay, I'll play the part.

You play the part, but

also, how can he raise his hands

above his head?

And do you see how fuzzy the camera was?

And he's wearing goggles?

Look, let's just see if he plays the same.

What if he's better?

What if he comes back better than ever?

But it reminded me how much Twitter does suck now because I tweeted that,

and then people were like, isn't it crazy that we never found out what happened to him? It's like, yeah, we did. We know what happened to him.
Jake, or no, Billy, your hot seat. My hot seat is the whole Quinn Ewers-Arch Manning quarterback battle at the University of Texas.
Not only is it over, it really wasn't much of a battle at all. And in reality, in the UT quarterback competition, there was a big dark horse sleeper that no one saw coming in Malik Murphy.
And they had their spring game over the weekend. And honestly, the most astounding guy was Malik Murphy, who I think has the best arm out of any of the quarterbacks on the team.
Quinn Ewers did have an amazing day, 16 for 23, 195 yards, one touchdown just in a spring game, but he looked pretty crisp. But he was running with the ones.
But this Malik Murphy guy just was throwing bombs out there, and if, you know, God forbid Quinn Ewers goes down with an injury, like they're in good hands with Malik Murphy. Great quarterback.
It's good for Arch Manning, by the way. Yeah.
He should have started as a freshman.

That would have been a lot.

I mean, plus just watching Arch Manning in this setting,

like he's only had 15 college practices under his belt.

And really, like, you know, he's got – he's a high school senior.

He has senioritis right now.

He really, like – he's a 17-year-old kid playing with college players,

and that's exactly what he looked like in the spring game.

Honestly, great mobility, great decision-making for what he was giving,

running with the threes with a terrible offensive line.

But, you know, this kid's got so much pressure on him,

but he's kind of doing well for it.

He's got senioritis.

I like that take, that Arch Manning.

Billy, you have chronic senioritis, just long-term.

Also, he doesn't have senioritis.

I'm on. He should be in his senior spring, skipping class, taking senior skills.
But he's in college. No, technically, he graduated early and went to college early.
Right, he's in college. Right.
He didn't get to experience the senior ice. He didn't get to go on his rum springer.
Yeah. Okay.
I like that, Billy. We're like, yeah, this is actually getting around the time of year where Billy's like, guys, if I had continued college and done like a master's degree, like I'd probably be drinking a lot right now.
So I need a month off. I'd be playing football probably still if I'd gone to a different school.

I like Arch.

I like the idea of him kind of like lurking because there's going to be some great sideline shots of Arch Manny every time Quinn Ewers throws interception.

By the way, Quinn Ewers needs to grow the mullet back.

I understand you're trying to go for a different clean-cut look.

Quinn Ewers has a mullet. You played great when you had a mullet.
Bring that shit back. Facts.
And your cool throne? My cool throne is me because I put a lot of – I didn't know if I was going to get it done by the time this podcast was going to happen. But my 2023 QB draft class rankings will be out by the end of the day on Wednesday.

Wait, we got to do it on the show.

Okay.

Let's do it on Friday's show.

So post a blog on Friday and we'll do it on Thursday.

Okay, perfect.

This is for anyone who doesn't know, Billy has – what was last year?

Yeah, it was a bracket, but who won it?

Last year it was Malik Willis. Oh, okay.
And then the year before, was that Chad Kelly's year? No, it was Sam Ellinger. Sam Ellinger's year? He won that? He was Billy's number one, right? He beat Trevor Lawrence in the finals? Yes.
Huge upset? Yes. So you basically can follow along and be like, who's definitely not going to work out they all haven't panned out yet there's a lot more career left there is AR-15 oh AR-15 wait don't I take into account what the mainstream media does it.
Oh, what a tease. I love it, Billy.
I'm excited for Friday's show. It matters where he gets drafted.
You've got to have a good guy with an AR-15, not a bad guy with an AR-15. Exactly.
Oh, no, that was Josh Dobbs who started for the playoff game. Yeah.
Yeah, not Blades. Yeah.
Oh, yeah. Yeah.
My hot seat is Brian Wintorst. He was doing a hit on first take on Monday morning from his hotel room in Phoenix, and he had to whisper during his hit because his hotel room neighbor was trying to sleep.
It was at 6.30 local time, 6.30 a.m. That's just a great dude.
It's the grind.

Yeah.

They work Wendy to the bone.

He's doing everything.

You remember when Wendy would fall asleep on the job

because he was working so hard?

I think he did like 36 hours of television.

Yeah.

He is.

We actually, well, this will be a tease, but I've been in contact with Wendy with wendy's gonna come on the show for the nba playoffs at some point very excited but he he's a dog he's got that dog in him was was there somebody in his room that was trying to sleep or no next door neighbor like i feel bad i have my roommate right across the wall here i'm not whispering like what's his name bl Blake. Yell it.
Wait, what?

Yeah, Blake.

Your roommate's name is Blake and you didn't tell us?

Now you know.

Is he cool?

Yeah.

Should I put him in the wrong name?

Should he be part of Blake of the Year?

He's an AWL.

I'm sure he's down.

Jake, I feel like this is a fact you should have told us a long time ago You live with a Blake What does he keep in the fridge Jake He eats healthy Healthier Or less healthy than you Probably around the same But he cooks a lot I don't really cook Okay Yeah he does meal prep Does he prep. Does he lift? Yeah.
What team ball? What does he bench? I don't know what he benches. What teams does he root for? South Florida teams.
Can we – oh, that's good. Can we get maybe just a quick – you don't have to dox him or anything, but maybe just a quick one sheet of all his stats that you could

have him with the Blake committee

and just try to figure out if he qualifies?

Yeah, I'll get it for you and

give it to the committee.

Just ask him all morning

if he wants to be part of Blake of the Year, and if he's like,

yeah, sure, then he's in.

Yeah, but if he's like...

If he's too excited, though, he's out.

What if he's out now?

Then I want him even more. Then he's definitely in.
too excited though he's out he's out he's out if he says no yeah uh then i want him even he's definitely and i want to fuck this blake if he if he says no i'm gonna fucking give this guy blake of the year i'm gonna move into your fucking room jake just so i can follow him around yeah i'm gonna watch him sleep yeah all right um you're cool thrown the defending champion, Waterdogs Lacrosse Club. Please credit me and Billy.
The schedule is here. Some of the highlights, defending champion, the Waterdogs, and a championship rematch against the Chaos in week one.
Jake, when's opening weekend? First weekend of June. Thanks for asking, Hank.
June, second, third, andth in Albany. Are the Chaos going to have a ring ceremony for their second place finish?

I don't know.

The Chaos are a team of Canadians,

and what's really funny is they all run funny because they're all Canadians,

and Canadians all run funny because they all played hockey.

So you see them trotting around.

This is true of all hockey players.

They're decent, but they're not going to be able to run with the dogs because they're Canadians. This is exactly why I wanted to do this show today so I could hear things like Billy do anthropological analysis.
They have weird muscle development from skating from such a young age and they don't run right. This is true.
I've never seen hockey players play pickup basketball

or even any other type of sport.

They're the most lethal.

They're only good in skates

at what they do.

And that is why it's so weird.

For 20 minutes a game.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And they don't even look like

athletes off the ice.

Unlike Billy, a football player

who's sick at basketball. At least I run right.
That's a fact. Good counterpoint.
So the whole schedule should be released this week, but similar to when Schefter teams up with Jeff Darlington, you've got to credit me and Billy when you see the schedule drop. So look online.
Whose name first?

I'll let Billy do it.

No, no, Jake go first. But when there's citing, do Canadians run right?

No, you can cite me.

Okay.

All right, that's good.

That's important.

All right, I'm excited.

We're Water Dogs.

We're probably going to suck.

Probably have a championship hangover.

No, we signed a lot of great free agents the offseason.

Is that going to mess up the chemistry, though?

No, no, because we need some young guys. We're not a super team.
That's the Redwoods. They got a lot of names, but they could just never, you know, get together and play as a team.
And what week are we playing them, Jake? The Redwoods, week two. Week two, yeah.
Also, rumor is that they're bringing back the beer garden for the regular season. So if you want to challenge Billy, come to PLL Games.
Billy, should we be concerned that the guys that we signed, the free agent guys, they're just ring chasing right now? But, you know, if those guys want to work with the team and if they put in a great offseason, I think we're set for a dynasty. If they want to humble themselves.
Why didn't they ask us for ring sizes? Did they ask you guys? Yeah. Yeah.
I think we just made it up. We ended the Whipsnakes dynasty.
I did just make up. Rabel texted me, and he texted me during March Madness.
So, like, everything was going on. They texted me a week later.
He was like, hey, about this. And I was just like, PFT is a 12.
I'm a 14. I think if you'd ask me, I'd just say regular.
Yeah. I literally just made up those.
I don't know why. They could be nowhere near.
I was like, if it's the wrong size, I'll just put it on a necklace. Fuck it.
So, yeah, we're getting rings. All right.
We're going to go ahead. I don't think anybody brought up jalen hurts maxian bring up jalen hurts new contract today broke the bank i was holding a sweatshirt during the entire uh hot sequel throne hoping that somebody would say it yeah i mean i this is i was wondering what you were doing when you see these numbers i i think to myself like how come the Eagles have the only good general manager in football? To put together the cap numbers that Howie – and I love Howie because he's got the perfect name for Philadelphians to either be really excited about or really fucking despise because you can say Howie like you're about to slit the guy's throat or Howie like, let's fucking go, Howie.
And he he knocked out of the party it looks like a really really team-friendly contract as far as the cap goes in the first four years i don't understand how how it works i don't i don't understand how it's like physically possible it's like eight million for for the cap it yeah we need a capologist on this show it's crazy and also i think mah now is the seventh highest paid quarterback, which is pretty crazy. Yeah.
That's how fast it goes. Josh Allen, not at the top anymore.
Russell Wilson is like two, right? Oh, no. Aaron Rodgers is two.
And then I think Wilson might be three after that. So Joe Burrow is stoked today.
Yeah. Yeah.
He's going to get paid. Okay, so we have a great interview with Michael Rubin that we taped last week, and then we'll finish with FAQs and a lottery ball.
Like I said, PFT was not in studio for that. There's only like 15 minutes.
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He has been on before. It is Michael Rubin, CEO, founder of Fanatics.
Used to be co-owner of the Sixers, no longer. Is that officially done? That is officially done.
Okay, so let's start there. So first of all, thank you for coming back on.
We love having you on, talking some business, talking some sports. Do you think you were the curse because the minute you sold your portion of the Sixers, Joel Embiid wins the MVP? It's facts.
I said the second I sold, I went out and said the Sixers are winning the championship this year. I fully believe that's happening.
I think it was my sale of the ownership that motivated everybody to play that much harder, that much better, and I'm looking forward to helping everyone to hoist a trophy this year in Philadelphia. Wait, so that would, if they do win a title, would that, I know you're a Sixers fan, but would that hurt a little bit? It would have to hurt a little bit.
No. No, no, listen.
These guys are still my family. I mean, look, you know, I mean, Joel is like a brother to me.
James is a brother to me. I mean, these guys are people I'm really tight with.
Josh Harris splits are a family to me. Like, no, these guys are absolute family.
I mean, look, you know, I mean, Chihuahua is like a brother to me. James is a brother to me.
I mean, these guys are people I'm really tight with. Josh Harris splits are a family to me.
Like, no, these guys are absolute family. The only team that I really care about in the world, I'd say, is the Sixers, and then that, I mean, those are, that is my team.
Right, right. Okay, alright.
So you're still rooting for that, but I, that would drive me nuts if they won the they won. No, I'd be so happy.
And I got to tell you something.

It's so much more relieving and so much more peaceful to know that I can help it any way I want without 17 people looking at me and accusing me of everything.

Yeah.

Do you get a ring if you guys win?

I get a mental ring.

I mean, I probably would get a ring.

You just make your own, too.

I'll tell you something.

There is nothing that would make me happier this year than for the Sixers to win a championship.

Thank you. I get a mental ring.
I mean, I probably would get a ring. You could just make your own, too.
I'll tell you something. There is nothing that would make me happier this year than for the Sixers to win a championship, and I think we can do it.
I think, you know, the team is really gelling together. The chemistry is there.
It's exciting. People are really locked in.
And I got to tell you something. I talked to, you know, Joe, James, Doc, Josh, Blitz.
I talked to these guys as much as I did when I was the third largest on the team. So from my perspective, it just got too complicated with fanatics.
We're now, we have thousands of individual deals with athletes. You're not allowed to do that.
We're taking bets on the Sixers. We're in business with agents.
You're not allowed to do that. We have players that own part of the company in the NBA.
We bought Mitchell Ness together with a bunch of players. So it was just too complicated.
But, I mean, this is my team. Yeah, was that the main reason why you decided to move on from the Sixers was because Fanatics was getting into sports gambling? And is there like a hard and fast rule in the NBA where if you're involved in owning a gambling company, you can't also own a team? Yeah, there were like 10 hard and fast rules that I think that didn't work for us anymore.
So the reality is when I bought my stake in the Sixers in 2011, Fanatics was a small business. It was, I think, a $250 million business.
The business this year is approaching, you know, it's that original business, just the merchandise business, which is one of our three businesses. That's more than $6 billion today.
Now we've launched the collectibles business. We've launched the online sports band iGaming business.
And we have such a massive opportunity with Fanatics to build this into really the only, you know, global digital sports platform where a fan can do anything they want, you know, with us digitally. and it.
And it went from a benefit early on as kind of a business development benefit to really became, if I'm being blunt, it was getting in the way of Fanatic success. And so for me to be able to be locked in and focused on how do I create the best experience for fans, the best business with Fanatics, while at the same time being free to help the Sixers in any way I can.
I mean, that's winning. So then now are you closing the door on sports ownership going forward? Because that is like every rich guy's dream.
Like we always talk about it. You're closed.
Closed. See, that's a red flag to us.
Yeah, we've said we had the longstanding take that like people criticize Elon Musk for a lot of things. The only thing you can the the number one like red flag is that that guy has so much money he doesn't want to buy an NFL team like that's what rich guys should do yeah buy an NFL team because that's cool that's what I would do that's what PFT would do that's what everyone in this room would do so are you now we're gonna put you in the weirdo pile yeah first of all I am weird so that's fine um put me in, yeah.
Look, here's the reality. I have the most exciting, I'm the luckiest person on the planet.
I get to wake up every day, go to bed every night, work 18 hours a day figuring out how can we keep developing fanatics. And we were in the first quarter of this game and we're barely getting started.
We have so much to do to improve in everything that we do and by the way we'll enter new businesses over time so for me that's intoxicating to me that's so exciting and i think i learned a ton and i think added a lot of value to the sixers but you know for me the opportunity to build fanatics into one of the most valuable companies in the world you know i i think i don't want anything to get in the way of that and sports ownership would be in the way of that. At the same time, we also let's keep this real.
If you want to have a real talk, why do rich guys want to own sports teams? Because they want access. We don't need it.
I live in the epicenter of sports. We're doing the coolest things in sports.
I'm fortunate that I get to work with the best athletes, the best owners, the best leaders in sports. I work with the best people across sports entertainment.
So I've got the funnest job in the world. Right, right.
That makes sense. It does.
You mentioned Josh, Josh Harris, owner of the Sixers. Do you think he's going to be a good owner of the Washington Commanders? Well, first, let's assume he does.
He's smart. Just tell me yes.

You know what?

You're a smart guy.

Honestly, I got a 780 on my SATs combined.

Would you misspell your name?

Probably.

I think I was drunk from the night before.

Yeah.

Look, I believe that Josh will get this done.

That's my prediction.

All right.

And I'm rooting for him. And look, that won't be popular in Philadelphia, but I think he grew up in Washington.
He, I think, he, I think he would be a really good owner of that team. I think he'll work his ass off to get that team to be a, you know, Super Bowl contender.
And it'll be complicated for people in Philadelphia to understand, but you know what? You know, he bleeds for the Sixers, and he'll bleed for whatever team he owns part of. And what I'll tell you is, and you guys know this because you have athletes on here all the time, like sports is a business.
You get traded. You know, James Harden bled for the Rockets until he came to the Sixers.
Now he bleeds for Sixers. People believe for the team that they own a part of,

and I think you can do a good job with both teams,

and I think he will.

I think that's a little controversial, by the way.

A lot of people will say, like, Michael, fuck you.

You can't own the Philadelphia Sixers and a team in a competing NFC.

But I think he's going to work his ass off to be a great owner of both teams.

I'm excited about that, and at the end of the day, he can just remind people from Philadelphia, listen, we both hate Dallas. Like, fuck the Cowboys.
There you go. So we got some mutual hatred on our side, which sometimes is a better bonding experience than actually rooting for the same team.
Look, you know what the most important thing is? Josh has one responsibility in Philadelphia, and that's to be a perennial winner of NBA championship. You got to get chips.
That's his job. And you know what? The team's very good, but we haven't proven shit yet until you win championships.
And if he can win championships and build a real dynasty, everyone's going to love that. And that's what he's got to do for the Philadelphia Sixers.
That's what he wants to do. And I can tell you, I still want to help do that.
I'm still committed to him. People see that.
You see I'm still spending time with my guys, with getting Joe and James who are brothers to me, helping the organization any way I can because I care about the winning championship. I can tell you're friends with James Harden because you did a very sneaky thing there where you just erased James Harden on the Nets.
That was smart. You're like, he bled for the Rockets, he bleeds for the Sixers.
Wait, he played for the Nets? Yeah, exactly. That's real friendship.
Like five games. I forgot about that.
That's real friendship. Just pretend.
We just memory hold that whole thing. Yeah, I mean, if you look at it, the Sixers on paper, they're definitely one of the more talented teams in the NBA, and they should make some noise.
And we've got Max over here who's a diehard Sixers fan. Yeah, Max.
My guy. Yeah.
Well, if things go bad, he'll start motherfucking everyone. And you know what? He should.
Yeah. Because it's the Sixers' responsibility to win championships.
Again, when you own a team, that is your responsibility to win championships. Each year you do that and you don't win a championship, you suck.
So, not talking about Josh because I think he is a good owner, but let's talk about just owners in other sports. the thing that we always struggle with as fans is like why an owner doesn't take every advantage they can to try to put out a championship team whether it be coaching staff like where there's not salary cap right coaching staff facilities we saw that report with the nfl teams where some teams were getting like an f minus in strength and conditioning and stuff what what's the disconnect? Why are people just buying teams and then when they buy the team, they're like, well, I've done my job? Look, I think different people buy teams for different reasons, different people in different financial situations.
I can tell you, if I were a fan, what I would want out of my owner is someone who had one goal, which is to win championships for their city. That's what matters.
I could tell you the Sixers haven't succeeded yet in 11 years that, you know, the ownership group has owned the team, but that is the only goal that everybody is thinking about. And I think if an owner is not doing that, they're probably not the right person to own the team.
Yeah. And by the way, look, some people say, look, this is a good business.
It's a good investment. You know, it makes money.
It is. But I got to tell you something.
That is secondary. like you own a team yeah yeah by the way look some people say look this is a good business it's a good investment you know it makes money it is but i gotta tell you something that is secondary like you own a team you better wake up and go to bed figure out how to get chips yeah yeah yeah i yeah i agree 100 that's how i think that's how we would run a team but there's a lot of people especially in baseball i've noticed they figured out that you don't have to be good to make a lot of money and then that that hurts the sport as a whole um look use competition's great.
You want as much competition as possible. And you want to make sure that people, like you want in the NFL, 32 teams competing to win the Super Bowl.
In the NBA, you want 30 teams competing to win the NBA championship. And that's what it's all about.
Yeah. And now you guys are getting involved in hockey too, right? I saw that Fanatics is, you guys are doing the jerseys for the NHL.
Yeah. Oh have you have you heard anything from the fans because hockey fans it takes them a while to adjust to anything they're like a throwback bunch for the most hockey fans are incredible fans they're incredibly passionate they care about the teams i mean they have some of the most passionate fans of any sport in the world yeah so have you guys heard any feedback have you started the design process for uh you know figuring out what these jerseys are going to look like because it's what 2024 that it's going to get started with you guys heard any feedback? Have you started the design process for figuring out what these jerseys are going to look like?

Because it's, what, 2024 that it's going to get started with you guys? Yeah, so we'll start in about two years. We'll be on ice.
We are super excited to do it. What people don't know today is we make so many jerseys already.
So today, everything in baseball, Nike is made by fanatics. In the NFL, made by fanatics.
So we've been making tremendous amounts of Nike licensed products for years. It's been an incredibly successful partnership.
We've brought in the assortment. Fans have loved it.
Look, you're right. Fans don't like a switch.

I mean, that's just a normal thing.

I think when I saw when it went from Reebok to Nike, fans complained.

Yeah, yeah.

But by the way, we got lots of things we need to do to be better as well.

Like we're always pushing the envelope.

And I can tell you, we make today about 70% of the hockey jerseys in the market today.

And those fans love that jersey.

If you look at the customer satisfaction ratings what do

they say about the jersey they'd love the jersey it's a better jersey than what was out there previously but we got to keep getting better there's things that we haven't done well and like like when i look at ourselves i don't say like here's what we do well i'm like here's what we suck at here's what we need to be better at and we're thinking about that every day so we were talking before about uh you know the sales in terms of different championship teams i don't want you trash any team, but can you give me a team or college team or pro that you were shocked by where you're like, oh my God, look at how much, how rabid this fan base was? What you generally look for is teams with great heritage that haven't won for a long time. So if you want to say what would be an incredible hot market, people are probably going to hate me for saying this.
This is not who I'm rooting for. This is who would be great for Fanatics business, Dallas Cowboys.
That would be incredible. Now, I'm certainly an Eagles.
Eagles are my guys. Lots of friends who play on the team, always rooting for the Eagles.
I'm happy they got to the Super Bowl, but they didn't get it done this year. I'm looking forward to them getting it done next year.
Yeah. So what would be a team, though, that we didn't expect?

Or maybe it's college.

Yeah.

Oh, wow.

That was shocking.

I'll tell you.

Give you some examples of teams you wouldn't expect.

Like the Buffalo Bills would be spectacular for business.

Yeah.

Because they have great heritage.

That could be a shocker to you.

I think everybody in Buffalo would buy $500 worth of merchandise.

The Browns.

Actually, think about everyone who grew up in Buffalo, who has any connectivity in Buffalo, would buy $500 in merchandise. Yeah.
Yeah. The Browns.
Browns are good. Yeah.
Lions. Yeah.
Steelers. It's been so long for the Lions.
I know. I'm not sure that I know that answer.
But it's fascinating to me because then you also have the big city. Like, would you rather have the Bills win the first one forever or one forever or the Giants? I would assume the Giants still would trump everything.
Bills would be bigger. Really? Yeah.
Now, here's the interesting thing. If a team wins perpetually like the Patriots did, eventually there's only – I would joke with Robert and Jonathan Kraft.
There's only so many times someone can buy an afc championship t-shirt i mean they won 10 afc championships right i mean you can only have so many afc championship t-shirts yeah i think you should have unlimited but you know that's the reality if you were designed like your your perfect year for maximum sales would it be like the classic lakers, Cowboys, Yankees fan? Well, it would be like, for basketball, it has to be the Sixers, period, end of story. And by the way, we haven't won it for a long time.
And by the way, I'm willing to take all the business down. Whatever the best outcome would be in basketball, I don't give a shit.
It's got to be the Sixers. That's the only way I can think.
But baseball, probably the Yankees. Baseball, Yankees would be as incredible.
Yankees and Cubs, you'd like either one of those teams to win every year. Yeah.
Yeah, keep guessing. So hockey, what would be the biggest market in hockey? Probably the, maybe the Maple Leafs? Or maybe a Canadian team? Maple Leafs would be insane.
Yeah. Would be insane.
Red Wings, maybe. Red Wings would be great.
Your guys, Blackhawks. Blackhawks, yeah.
They're not going to be back in a long time.

But I'm rooting for you.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I feel like everybody in Washington got some Capitals merch, too.

Capitals were great.

They were great.

They were great.

A lot of OV jerseys.

They were great.

Now, what about Slam Ball?

I heard that you're investing in Slam Ball.

Which Slam Ball team would move most merchandise?

You know, I'm going to have to add, you know, like, honestly, Big Cat's my advisor for Slam

Ball.

Yes.

So he would know who the best teams would be.

Who would that be, Big Cat?

It's the Dragons.

Jake, quick, hurry up.

Find me something.

The Slammers.

The Bruisers.

The Bruisers.

The Bruisers are great.

Jake, Jake, Jake.

Bouncers, Diablos, Mob, Rumble, Slashers, and Steel.

I misspoke.

When I said Dragons, I said Diablos.

The guy tries to bury me, then he can't turn shit for me.

He can't even name a team.

Hey, speaking of burying you.

I actually like to be buried.

Yeah, all right.

So I'll bury you.

So your parties are legendary.

Yeah.

The one July 4th in the Hamptons, legendary.

What's the policy on extra plus twos? Yeah, so- I yeah so speaking on anyone's behalf address this okay yeah yeah we asked me the question all right so so Dave was trying to go to your party you got invited to your party I I think the the story is that he uh his girlfriend lovely uh woman and it was Dave and Silvana and then Silvana's sister and her boyfriend, they wanted two more tickets so they could all go, and you said, absolutely not, Dave, and spit in his face. That's close.
Okay. So you did spit in his face.
No, no. Let me give you the real story.
So first, let me start with saying I love Dave. Yes.
All love for Dave. He was a dumbass.
Okay? Oh. He was a dumbass.
Okay. Okay.
So that party has 350 people that come. Dave was lucky to be invited.
Ooh. I'm just being honest.
It's not going to go out. Okay.
Dave was lucky to be invited. He, we have, again, 350 people.
You know who comes to this party. And Dave, and by the way, we call, we only, we invite 400 people, 350 people come.
Like basically everyone who's invited comes to the party and we reached out to hey are you coming he said well I need to bring three people with me there was not by the way Jay-Z and Beyonce don't bring three people with them Drake's not bringing three people with them and so I love Dave and I say this with lots of love for Dave like we were like, is he serious? And then actually someone sent me, my kid sent me, because she watches, Kylie watches. BFFs.
Yeah, with Dave. With Josh.
Yeah, Brianna. And she sent me the clip of Dave saying that I was dead to him and he was never coming to my party again, so we didn't invite him last year.
Oh. Yeah.
So we got to fix this. He's out for the white party.
No, no, no. We got to fix this.
Yeah. You got to invite him this year.
It's not happening. Why? Put him on for four.
Yeah. Listen, let me tell you what I did with the white party this year.
At the end of the year, we said who were the 75 people that added the least value. We cut them.
It was like a football team. Oh.
You guys like grade people on party performance? We do. How do you do that? What makes for a good party guest? By the way, you want someone who's people are going to love being around, who are going to be the life of the party, who are going to add value there.
By the way, we have, I mean, I had someone offer me a million dollars to get two people in last year to the party. They said, I'll donate a million dollars to your charity.
I'm like, you can't buy your way into this party. Why is this party so cool? Now I want to go.
If you've seen the pictures, it's basically... It's pretty much like

everybody. But Dave was invited to come with

his girlfriend, but it wasn't good enough. He had to bring...

He was bringing his grandma. No, no.

It was... Listen, I

understand the spot he was in.

If your girlfriend's sister wants

to come too, it's tough. And they're visiting.

Sometimes you gotta leave people at home. Okay.

I would bring so much value to this party. I get Beer Punk

started at like 4 o'clock in the afternoon. The party starts at 5 p.m.
Yeah. I'd show up early.
That's how good of a guest I would be. So I don't know if you guys know.
This year at the party, unfortunately, we've had, with only 350 people coming, we've had some significant accidents at the party over the past two years. Okay.
The first accident that happened was, I want to make sure I get this right, Charlie D'Amelio sliced Dixie Damelio's finger trying to cut a bagel three o'clock in the morning okay that led to several stitches that was year one's accident so we actually thought we would be really prepared and we brought a medical staff for the party because even those 350 people we had a whole you know medical swat team there and um so i i went to the bat so after like 12 people performed you know you know it just like this incredible like just natural performances that broke out of the party I went to the boys room and I was knew I was turning 50 this year and so my my 50th birthday was coming a couple weeks up which was pretty depressing to me and so Joel Embiid's running out to me Michael you gotta come here you gotta come here Camille got hurt thisille got hurt. This is my girlfriend.
He goes, Camille got really hurt. I think you remember this.
I'm like, Joe, like, stop. Like, I'm not falling for this.
Right. Like, I'm like, no, you're not tricking me.
And then they're like, you gotta go upstairs. And all of a sudden, we just had our third, my third daughter, our second daughter together a few weeks earlier.
Thank you. And so she fainted.
Now, I would say the truth be told that she tried to drink with the boys and wasn't able to handle it. She's still going with fainting.
It's a real debate within the Rubin household. I would probably side with you on this.
Of course. She actually gets mad at me when I tell this.
She clearly, she's going with the faint I'm going with. But anyway, she fell over and hurt herself very badly.
So I left. I had to 12 15 the party why'd you have to leave because she had to go to the hospital they thought she had a medical tent the medical okay send them off so I'm gonna be honest with you so the EMT doctor comes in the room Joao was in the room and they're like you know her neck could be broken I'm like she's fine give her a drink like don't worry about it i'm like she's good like put her back in the game who cares um and um jaw screaming like i've had this happen you've got to go to the hospital right now and someone else is screaming at me and so obviously i was like do i leave my 300 friends here or do i um do i go to the hospital and be a good guy and so i made the the decision i had to make all All right.
So that was probably better. I don't want to say it was the right decision.
No, it wasn't the long term. So now I'm in the hospital.
And like literally as I'm getting there, someone else shows up, like one of our friends. And I'm like, Camille's like, why are you here? She's like, oh my God.
When Drake got up and started performing, I jumped into a speaker, she had blood coming out of her. Oh my God.
She she cracked her head open so literally i'm in the hospital and i've got camille there waiting i've got this other friend of mine bj there who's got blood squirting out of her head we need like 20 stitches in her head so we've now had with a total 350 people we've had like three real actions to you that's good to do the party at the hospital well that would be a good idea that would be a good idea but so we've now so we're now increasing the medical staff this year, but the party starts at 5 p.m. It goes till 4 a.m.
And I came back from the hospital. I, of course, left Camille in the hospital once I knew she was going to leave.
Yeah, yeah, right. I'm like, I'm coming back in hot.
I'm FaceTiming Trav. I'm like, Trav, I'm coming back in hot.
And there were about 200 people left when I got back, and we went into high gear. The 2 to 4 a.m.
was strong this year. That's the mark of a good party if at least 5% of your guests go to the hospital afterwards.
You did your job. Well, I think we're...
Right now, we're running at half a percent in cash. We can bump those numbers up.
Needing medical assistance. Yeah.
Yeah. Get like a bouncy air cash.
We also had a nameless person who was drunk out of control. I was friends with who had to get thrown out and then tried to sneak back in as waiter who got thrown out last year.

But we would have 90 security at the party.

I would imagine. It's a lot

of very famous people.

People try to sneak in through the bushes. People try to

come in. It's crazy the way people try to do this.

Maybe one year we do...

We should try to sneak in this year. Well no, we should do a deal where it's like

you know, we'll try to

sneak in. We're going to test your security for you.

So you can tell your security guards like look, these guys are trying to sneak in so don't like you know hurt them but let's see how our security you're too sweet to hurt yeah come on i'll just you should try i'll just be rolling on the ground yeah um that i mean yeah you should invite billy to this party uh that would be funny he would ruin your whole party my technique i would i would break in early i would break in like a week early like inside man so we had that this year people were hiding in people were hiding in the bushes like off the beach trying to like crawl in we saw that that was like a 1 o'clock catch they tunnel in like they're El Chapo trying to get into your party it's literally you haven't seen a thing like this I've never seen a thing like this also like you would at our Super Bowl party this year which we'd love to have you guys at and Dave at very welcome oh wow Dave gets invited to invited to the b party oh no he's invited to the super ball party um we we like that we had um we had um drake get that one too or drake was there yeah he was there and um at that party we had i kept saying our guys people are going to try sneaking like crazy and we had it was an outside party we had like you know again 50-60 security and then he kept saying Michael you're being ridiculous like this is not the white party like it's going to be fine they had 150 people they caught trying to sneak into the Super Bowl party this year oh man we're very sneaky we could definitely I would like you to try yeah we're going to try both parties you don't know when both parties you don't know when but Super Bowl party I want you guys at okay I'll go to that one. The other one he does not want us at.
I think he wants us to try to sneak in so he can arrest us. One party is at my house where there's a space constraint.
You can only have 350 people. That's all that fit.
One party is in Vegas. It was in Arizona outside.
We fit our 1,100 people. How do you grade a party guest? You said on value added to the party it sounds like you're giving like people people i say this now seriously like it's actually super awkward because you have so many people that you're boys with that you're friends with who want to come and the issue is we have space for 350 people so like at the end of the day we're trying to curate the best range of a lot of stress you're basically throwing a wedding every year we do yeah yeah that's very stressful it's way more stressful than wedding yeah because the wedding you only have like twice the amount of people trying to come and also someone like not getting invited to a wedding like when someone doesn't invite me to a wedding i'm like good i don't have to like spend money and go to this i'm just thinking good i'm on depression yeah right right exactly what's the seating situation like are there enough couches or are people just standing the whole time it's i mean it's it's mostly standing till you i'm out oh i'm out too yeah the party sounds shitty by the way it's got four we start with everyone's outside on the uh on the decks and on the beach and then we go downstairs for dinner there is seating for dinner actually upstairs the roof back in before we just start then we go into a nightclub that we have built oh that sounds pretty fun that does have a lot of seating uh this probably explains the difference between us and you but if i were in your position i would probably be retired by now do you are you ever going to retire from anything or is your life just like this is what you want to do for the rest of your life you want to be building businesses you want to be in the action or do you see a time where you're just like you know what i've done pretty well for myself i think i'll just go live on a beach zero point zero zero zero zero zero chance of ever retiring.
Okay.

Zero chance of ever slowing down.

I fucking love this.

I have a blast.

Like, I'm so lucky to do what I do.

And by the way, I'm going to be doing one thing,

which is building fanatics for the rest of my life.

I mean, this is, you know,

I'm the luckiest person on the planet to get to work with so many, you know,

incredible athletes, entertainers, owners,

league executives.

I've got the greatest job in the world.

If I slowed down, I would die.

And so I love it. Like a shark, yeah.

Yeah, I got to keep doing this.

There's nothing.

Nothing.

Maybe I delude myself because I tell myself that someday I would like to retire.

What would you do?

I don't know.

Just hang out.

What would you do?

Bet on sports. I would probably do the exact same thing that I do all day every day if I was retired.
Yeah, I'd wake up. I'd probably try to start getting in shape.
I would maybe try to live near. You got a little work to do.
Yeah, I got a little work to do. I know.
Listen, I would live near a horse track so I could gamble on horses during the day. And then at night I would watch the games and gamble on those games.
So I really believe this and I've seen it happen time after time.

I think retirement is basically

you're saying you want to die.

For me, for someone like me,

I retire, I might as well just say

I'm going to be dead because my brain

works with activity.

Yesterday morning, I don't even know where I was yesterday.

I work 18 hours a day, 7 days a week

and I love it.

I grind like crazy.

I wake up every day excited and then I go to bed and I'm exhausted. And I wake up three hours later, every day.
I wake up three hours after I go to bed. I'm like, okay, I got to get one or two more hours sleep just so I don't kill myself.
Because I need four or five hours, not three per day. But you also do enjoy your life a lot.
Because, like, I don't know, every other week I'll, like, pop on your Instagram stories, you'll be on a yacht? No. No.
How many yachts this year? I was on... That's a great question.
How many yacht vacations this year, Michael? Two. Two? Listen, everything's published.
Wait, is that 2023? That's 2022, baby. Not one yet in 2023.
Okay, all right. And by the way, I hosted a great party on my boat the day before New Year's where lots of people

that are important to me were there.

Yeah, but probably some of those yacht trips

you don't count as a vacation.

They look awesome.

They're work yacht trips.

The holiday yacht trip, I'd say, is vacation.

I've got lots of people I work with there,

lots of people in sports and entertainment.

And by the way,

we're always talking about ideas.

Like a lot of things,

like you got to realize

the way we build our business.

Like I have so many people around me

that I learn from,

that I, you know, that I gain information from that helps me to think about how to build our business better so like if you think about how we bought mitchell ness that was like an organic conversation that i was having with jay-z about you know how people you know i was basically you know because we own lids and i was basically talking about how do we make headwear more and more relevant each year and he was telling me like you're thinking about're thinking about it the wrong way. You've got to make sure that, you know, people are, you know, the way you get dressed is like people put on their jeans, they put on their hoodie, they put on their hat.
That's part of your wardrobe. Like, don't think about, you know, a hat as being, you know, not part of your wardrobe.
And then he's like, by the way, we should buy Mitchell Ness. And sure enough, you know, we bought Mitchell Ness with Jay-Z, with Little Baby, with Meek, with LeBron, with KD, with Joel and James, CP, Book, CJ.
And we did it with K-Hart. So all these guys are partners.
And by the way, they're helping to build the business. It's going to be a great investment for them.
I think they got in the first year, they invested 12% of their money back on the investment in the first year. It's like unheard of.
Well, it is. I mean, Mitchell and Ness is a great brand.
So that made perfect sense. Right.
And so, and by the way, they're helping to build the business. And so for me, like, that's the thing that people don't understand.
I do do some fun things. Like the white party is fun.
The hangover is not fun, by the way. The white party is fun.
You probably have a staff of like IVs. You got the IV nurses coming nurses coming you don't you don't get hung yeah you've got all the good drugs that we don't know about i will i will tell you some chamber you sleep so i'm gonna admit like i'm like this year at the super bowl party was maybe the most i'd ever drank in my life okay and i our party started i think uh two o'clock and then i went straight to something else then i went late i remember i looked at someone three o'clock in the morning i'm like why am i here there's something that mattered and then I went straight to something else.
Then I went late. I remember I looked at someone three o'clock in the morning.
I'm like, why am I here? There's something in the matter. I went home.
I woke up and Camille said to me, how do you feel? I said, I feel great. She goes, I don't understand.
Yeah. Like there's, there's something not right with you.
Yeah. Did you drink champagne the day before the Superbowl? No.
Yeah. Why would you do that as a Philly guy?

Max did that.

Max was also the drunkest he's ever been in his life at the Super Bowl party. I didn't have one sip of

alcohol until our Super Bowl party.

I actually

don't like alcohol. I actually think it's disgusting.

I mean that. Same.

I'm a guy's guy, so I could not drink for eight weeks

and then I could shot a clock and I'm in for

20 shots. Yeah.
How much of buying

lids was the fact that when you walk into a

lids in the mall, it just smells awesome?

That was not

Thank you. weeks and then I could like shot a clock and I'm in for 20 shots.
Yeah. How much of buying lids was the fact that when you walk into a lids in the mall, it just smells awesome?

That was not, first of all, I didn't know that.

I like to learn everyday things.

Oh, it's a great smell.

It's like a very unique smell.

It's that and Auntie Anne's are the two best smells in the mall.

You can put me in a hot topic and then in a lids and I'll be able to tell you in a half

second which is which if I was blind.

So maybe we should do that and do like a little competition of like, tell me smell when you're in lids. You might've just created a new marketing campaign.
You see, I always say I like to have people around me. I like to learn from them today.
I've learned two things. One, the lid smells great.
And two, that we should actually start to do the lid smell test. Well, yeah, it's one of those things that I think most people don't even realize.
And maybe you own the business and you didn't realize it, but lids has – it's got a unique smell that sticks with the consumer. And like, you just know that you're in Lids.
It's great. So I, what I'll tell you about Lids is they have, it's an incredible brand.
They have an incredible consumer base. It's a, you know, much younger customer than that, you know, overall fanatics customer.
It's a, you know, it's, it's someone who buys a lot of hats and hats are part of the wardrobe. And, you know, look, we have, you know, we own a lot of cool brands, you know, obviously Lids is an incredible brand know obviously lids is an incredible brand uh mitchell nest is an incredible brand tops is an incredible brand um and you know fanatics is really where you get everything in sports so i got an idea for you ready for this one uh because you like being around ideas guys what about selling extra flammable jerseys so if you know guys yeah if you know a guy's about to get traded or leave a team because there's nothing nothing more pathetic than when someone tries to burn a jersey and it doesn't fully burn.
So it's special jerseys that you buy and you're extra flammable. Unless this was for David Blaine, I'm probably thinking it's not going to be very good for insurance.
Okay. No bad ideas, right? No bad ideas.
No bad ideas. But you make them sign a waiver.
I'm actually liking the smell test better. Right now I'm thinking we're like one for two on big ideas.
Okay, okay, okay. All right, well, we can workshop it.
We can workshop it. Maybe what about if it was a, well, I guess that would, like a non-flammable where you can burn it.
It looks burned, but then you can like put it out and it's totally fresh and fine. But you want people to buy more jerseys, so.
Yeah, look, if your player gets traded, we want you coming back to Fanatics. He wants you to burn it and come back.
We don't really want you to burn it. Extra flammable.
We should celebrate the player and what they did for the team before. That's not how fans work.
Except by the way, it sounded nice. That's a perfect world.
That's a perfect world that you just described where Dave gets all four invites. Yeah, that's never happened.
Yeah, when you check out on the website, it says, consent to giving you my information if dave comes back and says listen i was a little ahead of myself uh i shouldn't have asked for plus four i'd really like to come with my girlfriend on my own chance i would think about other than that i'm gonna love him forever he'll always be my boy but he'll never be Party. If I love somebody, I would invite them to my massive party.
Yeah. With a lot of invites.
That's the Super Bowl party. Make it the Dave Portnoy party.
Yeah. We'll do that for Super Bowl.
We can celebrate him at the Super Bowl. But yeah, I think PFT's right.
The checkout, there's a waiver. And then also you can order...
Flammable. You can order how flammable.
Yeah. Extra flammable.
I want a new bomb flammable. Medium flammable.
It's just like size. It's no different from this.
The flammable products aren't going to be a big category for us. All right.
I'm just – listen, if you sold extra flammable jerseys, like Packers jerseys for Aaron Rodgers fans, they would be – it would be awesome. Bonfire.
I thought it was going to be really exciting. If Aaron Rodgers comes to the Jets.
Yeah, I'm sure you've been looking at the news being like, let's go. He's going to sell a lot of jerseys.

I can tell you that.

Have you ever thought about entering with a partnership with a player

and then being like, hey, you should demand another trade

so we can sell more jerseys?

I would never do anything like that.

No, never.

But if that player wanted to come to the Sixers

and they were going to make the team better.

Yeah.

That might, you know, could see something like that potentially happening.

Do you still trust the process? Are you a big process guy? We're process guys on this show. Huge process guys.
I'm about champion. I'm a championship guy.
I'm a chip guy. So you're a results guy.
I'm all about the chip. You need the process to get the results.
You know what? I'm all about. There's one thing I care about with the Sixers.
It's winning championships. And honestly, like, I don't need to look back.
I don't need to look at what the team, what we right and wrong because we got a lot right we got a lot wrong too by the way we made a lot of mistakes um and you know what we got to do is win championships that's the only thing that matters right but I guess we've talked about the process that the Sixers use on the show a lot and it it worked you did everything that that you wanted to do and you're gonna obviously like hit or miss on certain draft picks or whatever but if you a uh like from the ownership standpoint how much patience do you have to have while that's all taking place because you can't you know that i would say first it hasn't worked yet because we haven't won a championship i don't argue it has the process worked yeah so um so we can disagree um i would say to me the measurement of success is winning championships so i um and i i would tell, look, I think what's great about Philly now is it's a great free agency destination. Like people want to be in Philly.
They see the strength and leadership that we have in the ownership group, which I'm not part of anymore, in the leadership team, in the locker room. It's a great locker room.
I mean, there's so many great guys that work together as an organization. So I think think it's a great free agency destination.
I think Philly's super exciting. By the way, it's a cheap state to live in, 3% taxes versus New York that's 15% taxes.
So, for someone who's making a lot of money, that could be, you know, $5 million in extra cash a year they save if you're a max player. So, you know, for me, I'm measuring one thing.
Chips. I see.
I think the process worked because I think that winning a championship is so hard and it is you have a 3% chance right it's getting it's more like putting out a contending team for a stretch of time and then everything else is kind of you know it's a little bit up to luck so I'm calling bullshit on you okay because when our mutual friend just walked in here and ron and you gave him shit for not winning the final four yeah he said well we got to the final four and you said you're a loser well yeah because he was like well i was happy they got to the final four like you right so you're supposed to be happy about a process because we have a contender but you have to that was the first final four miami had ever been to you're going both ways no no that was the first Final Four Miami had ever been to. Take a place on the street to stay on one side of the road.
If they can build a sustained team that goes to the Final Four multiple years, that's different. That was the first time.
I understand he can be happy. So who's your team? Who's your favorite team? Probably the Bears.
And so if the Bears got— They have not built anything. So if the Bears got your championship didn't win, you'd be happy after they lost in the Super Bowl? If the Bears got to a point, well, actually, we had this debate.
No, no, we had this debate.

No, no, no, no.

You're not really a winner.

We actually had this debate, and you're now about to lose this debate.

We had this debate because we said that would you rather,

if Commanders fan, Bears fan, our team suck,

we said in the next 50 years if you won one title

but missed the playoffs all the other 49 years

or you could lose the Super Bowl 15 times,

We said we'd next 50 years, if you won one title but missed the playoffs all the other 49 years,

or you could lose the Super Bowl 15 times, we said we'd take losing the Super Bowl 15 times.

Because that would be some sick.

Like, you win a lot of NFC Championship games.

That would be awesome.

That's a lot of partying. You'd be really good.

So many Super Bowls you get to go to.

That's a real.

It's loser talk.

We know it's loser talk.

That's a complicated.

I agree that's a complicated one.

Yeah, because, like, that's.

Listen, it would suck never to win one, but you'd also have a lot of great memories.

It's a talk. We know it's loser talk.
That's a complicated... I agree that's a complicated one.
Yeah, because that's... Listen, it would suck never to win one, but you'd also have a lot of great memories.
From a business standpoint, think about how many more NFC Championship t-shirts that you could sell if you go to 15 Super Bowls than if you just win one Super Bowl. Yeah, 15 Super Bowls is kind of a dynasty.
But if you think about something from a fan's perspective, you care about one thing, winning championships. No, that's true.
Listen, you've given... Listen.
We've muddied the waters here. You need to start marketing more to losers.
That's your problem. You've got to get in the loser demographic.
I'm on it. I'm on it.
Yeah. I always love the process because I think it's very rare in sports where a team goes all in on a strategy and tells the fans, because a lot of times what happens with ownership is they will tell you one thing and be doing another.
And so the transparency of the process is what we're fans of, where it's like, if you give it to me straight, I can deal with it. I think communication in whatever you do is one of the most important things in life.
And what I've learned is there's many complicated situations and people don't know how to communicate. By the way, including in locker rooms, in sports, in business, like to me, when you got something you got to deal with, just fucking deal with it.
I'm always like, I hate the, something's festering in my brain, but I don't work that way. I got an issue with you, I'm going to go grab you and tell you.
I see two people that I work with that are each whining at me like, guys, get in the fucking office and let's solve this. Like, let's not have this bullshit and kill brain cells.

So to me, communication is everything.

And so when you talk about communicating with a fan base,

of course they're going to appreciate honesty and transparency and telling them the truth,

which is why I tell you all the things,

we screw shit up all the time too.

Yeah.

All right, so this has been awesome.

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Michael Rubin, will you ever run for president? Zero chance. Zero? Zero? I've learned the 10x mentality.
Grant Cardone, he taught me that zero is still a chance. I don't know.
So I'm going to be honest with you. I think it's a brutal job.
I would never want it. It's like you can't get shit done as the president.
The thing I love about what I do is as a CEO in an entrepreneurial company, I can make things happen. I can see something today and come up with an idea and I can effectuate that idea.
I can see something we've done wrong and fix it, okay? As the president, it's a purely political job. So I don't like that.
So no, if you told me today I could be president today, I would have zero points of interest in that job. Sounds like you want be king who to be king of the yeah king sounds a lot more interesting but by the way as a king you know I want to be a great leader that brought everyone together but ultimately I think to have the influence to bring people together is really important so the problem with president is you start with like a a country where everyone's divided.
And I don't like that. I don't like, and I stay away from politics because I don't want to be in the middle of politics.
What I want to do is bring people together. By the way, our white party brings people together.
My Super Bowl party brings people together. Fanatics brings people together.
I like to bring people together. And what I don't want to do is spend time like working hard to not get things done i want to get results and push hard yeah so what i like about that though is i think that if you want to be president that should automatically disqualify you from ever being president well i'm gonna tell you one thing about being president i firmly believe this if there's one rule that should be put in place right now you guys tell me what you think there needs to be an age max you cannot be president past 65 yeah that makes sense for the first term it does it makes me laugh like you can't have yeah because you're making changes that will have effects on when you're not around people that are in the sharpest period of their life by the way i'm not i'm not trying to criticize anyone you know but in general like a hypothetical sounds like a shot if there's a hypothetical old president out there oh we've had the last two presidents no no you're right you're last.
The last two have been old. I agree with this.
I think first term, you have to be under 65 when you become president. I think that would be amazing.
I think you'd have sharper people that could be more aggressive. I want the leader of our country to be a great leader and bring people together, but be able to really affect change.
I work 18 hours a day, and I know my energy doesn't stop, and I want somebody to work the same way. I think the president should be 18 years old.
It's crazy. Wild shit.
I work 19 hours a day, but I guess I'm just built different from you. You might.
Yeah, that's okay. Are you? Yeah.
So come up next. We need you.
I got, I got, I got one last, last question. This is another headline grab.
This is what we do. We say this is the last question.
And then you, if you ask a last, last question after that, nobody ever gets up for it.. So you just keep the interview going.
This is another headline grab. You found yourself, I guess you were kind of like at the middle.
When I think about Meek Mill and Robert Kraft and those two guys. Very similar.
Those two guys are in the same sentence. I'm like, well, Michael Rubin was definitely involved in this conversation.
Meek Mill texted Lamar Jackson and said, or he texted Robert Kraft about Lam lamar jackson said patriots need to sign this guy let's get it done i have to assume that you were involved in some of those conversations as a philly guy were you were you upset at meek mill for being like hey why are you telling the patriots to sign lamar so two things one i give you my absolute word i was not in the middle of that conversation in any way shit before i saw it in uh on twitter when you saw it on Twitter. That So two things.
One, I give you my absolute word. I was not in the middle of that conversation in any way, shape, or form.

I saw it on Twitter when you saw it on Twitter. That's number one.

Number two, no, I was not upset because

you know, if you're in the sports business

and you have authentic relationships with players,

you want what's best for the player.

And so I know that a fan base may

not understand that, but if

Lamar Jackson at that point decided

that he may be interested in something else, I think you know, I I want him to be happy and so now my boy O just went there and O's a brother to me yeah um so I'm happy for those guys and hopefully they just do amazing things together but like look my business if I'm just keeping it real and people won't like hearing this it makes you you're really a supporter of your friends if they own a team you're a supporter of the friend you of the player, so you want your guys to do well. So, you know, I was excited for Odell when he went to Baltimore, not because I'm a Ravens fan, because I'm not, but because I wanted a great opportunity for him to go out and do everything he can do and I was pumped for him.
Would I prefer him to be an Eagle? Would I prefer him to be a Patriot? Definitely. But I was happy for him because I thought it was a great opportunity.
So, this been awesome get ready for us to sneak into your party i can't wait it's gonna be great i'm gonna be in there so hard yeah we're gonna i'm gonna i want to get i want to get like the whole moss suit where you like i'll make you guys a deal if you guys get in you can stay okay okay i love it how's that you get in you can stay i've snuck into harder places before. I've gotten to Guy Fieri's Super Bowl.

Yeah, no, no.

We might have to make a video.

Yeah.

Okay.

Deal.

You've created a very powerful monster.

You get in, you guys can stay.

The only problem is over July 4th, our one vacation a year.

Because we work 19 hours a day.

Yeah, 19 hours a day.

Take really no vacations.

Let me tell you one thing.

You'd have a blast if you got there.

We'll be there.

Okay.

At some point, we will be there.

I'm going to get in.

Yeah. I'm going to get in.
All right. You can FaceTime FaceTime Dave.
Yeah. Well, no.
That would be a bad idea. All right.
Well, Michael Rubin, thank you so much. Appreciate you coming by, man.
Always welcome on, and you're the best. It's fun hanging with you guys.
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We got Hank here.

Memes is going to read them.

Ooh.

Memes, do you know how to read?

Slightly.

Memes, quick Islanders minute.

We're going to do that now?

Yeah, do it now.

All right, power play is terrible.

Okay, we knew that going in. How about the PK?

PK wasn't great.

Okay. Especially because the Hurricanes have one of the worst power plays in the league also.
Oh. That's bad.
And he let up a power play goal. So it's like the verbal meme, Nick Cage looking at the guy from The Last of Us driving.
Okay. Got it.
Don't know that guy's name. I don't understand that meme, but that's good.
Yeah, Pedro Pascal. I did TikTok with him.
Yeah. Go follow me on TikTok.
Nick Cage stares at him, and he's just smiling. Okay.
So, and how are we feeling? Lost game one. That's okay.
Lost game one. Probably should have won.
Hmm. I felt like they could have won that game.
What was the final score? 2-1. 2-1.
Okay, yeah, probably could have won. They, like, set the record.
Wait, wasn't it 3-1? Did they not score an empty netter? No. Oh, okay, 2-1.
2-1. That's pretty much going to be every game.
Yep. So you just need the puck to bounce your way.
Yep. It's just pucks bouncing our way.
Pucks bouncing our way. And they just got to score goals.
That was just me and my dad afterwards. It is important to score goals.
You have to score to win. That's true.
Yeah, at least one. But most of the time, more than one.
Yeah, more than one. Yeah.
At least one. Okay, so you're not...
You haven't lost confidence. No, no, no.
I think we're fine. Okay.
Almost a statement loss? No. Okay, all right.
I was trying to help you there. Statement loss would have been great.
Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
But Frankie Borelli was tweeting, like, we will win games like this. Oh, yeah, and NHL rigged.
Oh, NHL rigged? Oh, there was a bad call. There was a phantom call.
Okay. All right.
Well, yeah, it's NHL. It's time to talk about, you know, late hits or guys leaving their feet in slow-mo and all that stuff with NHL playoffs.
Yeah, but this one was just, like, he slapped the stick, and they just called slashing, and then they wound up scoring on it. Bullshit.
That's your least favorite penalty, Hank. Slashing.
Okay. That wasn't like a joke or anything.
It was just, I was just leaning into you being a puck head. Got it.
Yeah. What is your least favorite penalty? I hit it when they shoot it at the boards and they mean to shoot it and it goes over.
It's delay a game. Yeah.
That's bullshit. Yeah.
Yeah. Puck out of bounds.
All right. Go ahead.
FAQs. Sup, fellas.
Sup. Want to throw a hypothetical out there.
Let's assume you're all in studio recording an episode when a fight to the death breaks out. Who do you think goes after who? And who is the last man standing? Love you guys.
Well, I well i feel like it would matter how the like a fight to death doesn't just break out okay well i mean but it let's just say it did hypothetically i know billy would go for me right away uh he's had that in his eyes for years i think what would happen is pft would help me beat the fuck out of billy and we would kill Billy. I think Max would probably squash Jake right away, or would you go straight for Hank? I would probably go for Jake.
No offense, Jake, but we have had some tough history where you've alpha'd me, so I would probably just have to take you out before you could take me out. I think Max, I have loyalty.
Are we counting memes in here, too? Memes is is in here he's going down first means it's a tough motherfucker i think max i have max in like max is one of my guys now like he's very loyal to me i think i could be like max go kill everyone and then at the end be like max now kill yourself and he would just do that and i would survive fair yeah yeah for sure take one out yeah yeah i just walked out of the room before no you can just do that. And I would survive.
Fair? Yeah. Yeah.
Take one out. Yeah.
Yeah. I just walked out of the room before.
No, you can't do that. Billy, what would you do? You would definitely go for me, Billy.
You know you would. No, if it's the typical setup of it, Hank would definitely go for Jake first, meaning I'd have a free reign.
I think if it was like a zombie virus thing where we all just went berserk and try to kill each other that your proximity to pft leaves me free so then the only time is i have to get uh max before he can get out from the behind there and little did you guys know it's the winner of it would be the winner of pft versus big cat winner of me versus jake and then the winner versus billy and max but max would win that no but max is in the corner he by his positioning. I can close him off.
I could come from over the top. Okay.
But he's not going to be able to get out of there fast enough. So if I can get to him early enough, I think I have advantage.
And then Hank and Jake, I think, is going to take a little longer. Oh, wow.
He said that's going to be a 12-round fight. Hank, we're teaming up and taking down Billy now.
No, no, no. I'm saying this is like...
Yeah, you're saying no saying no alliances because in reality if there were alliances pft and i would ally and then we'd probably like do rocks paper scissors shoot to see who has to kill themselves at the end like we would waste everyone and then be like all right now one of us has to go so then i'd be in the corner hopefully my early jump gets max and then i have to turn around and deal with what's going on here max you would one thing about max he would fuck billy up yeah that is the thing about me yeah that is the thing about yeah he would fuck you up billy when's rough and rowdy if it's like less than two weeks that would be sick to do listen my boy max he's we if it needs a little fight camp before he's ready for rough and rowdy i need a lot of i mean he was strategic mean, he was strategic about it. We need to go to the mountains.
Is it in two weeks? You know, you can get your one weekend off. We could really get it going.
I would take Max in this room, though, just out of, like, Philly scumbag. You know? Yeah.
He would grab people's dicks. He would bite dicks off.
We also got to look at the best weapons in the room. The barbell, I think, if you could it...
This isn't a real... That would suck.
I go to get someone. There's a liverking axe underneath the sofa.
I don't know where it is. Right.
There's a golf club there. I really wish I had a gun.
I could just pull out and be like, what do you guys think about this? Alright. That'd be cool.
Good question. Good question.
Throw some weights at people. All right.
Next up. Sound off in the comments.
Sound off in the comments. Who is the guest you didn't think you would get along with before an interview, but ended up having a good relationship with? And vice versa, who is the one you thought you would vibe with really well, but didn't? Ooh.
Well, the one I would say that changed my opinion on how we do, because there's a lot of guests we get offered.

Some of them we don't do because we just won't be interested in whatever they're doing.

The one I would say changed my opinion on like we need to be more open and we have been is Jerry O'Connell.

Jerry O'Connell, I mean, we knew who he was, but we were like, all right, I guess we'll have him on.

And then he became our best friend.

So that was a definite like, hey, give everyone a chance uh who's the one that we didn't vibe with that we thought we would i thought me and kareem would have something big poppy kareem was not that was he was not happy to do our podcast he was very upset that he was with us in any capacity i'm trying to think who else like i never thought we would vibe with like damn marino i'm trying to who else who else did we walk away and we're like yeah that one well there's a comedian that shall go uh nameless because they threatened to sue us um good news is that I just said comedian. We've had a number of comedians on, so you can't.
Unless the person hasn't been on twice. If the person's been on twice, it's not them.
But if the person's been on once, they threatened to sue us. Yep.
Yeah. Yeah.
Sound off in the comments. Who do you think it was?

They're like legit threatened to sue us if we didn't like take down the whole episode.

And we're like, that's not how it works.

And it really, we didn't do anything bad at all.

In terms of our interviews that like, there'll be interviews that we do.

Sometimes we're like, ooh, we didn't really click.

That was our mistake.

This one was not our mistake.

The guy just sucked. Or girl.
we don't have girls on the show we're trying to get more

how much work behind the scenes gets put into something like the golf video

between everyone's schedule camera crews getting the okay from editing i don't know it's taking so

long well i can i could start i had to get up at five in the morning that was pretty tough

I love start. I had to get up at 5 in the morning.
That was pretty tough on, like, one of my only days off. Max, memes, why don't you guys chime in? How long? No, there's a lot.
There's a lot. I mean, Max have gone through.
I'm now in the process here. Golf is a lot of graphics and a lot of shot tracers.
If you watch a golf video and you're not able to see where the ball is going it's kind of pointless so there's just it's not as simple as just like a pmt vlog where it's like you're basically just shooting stuff and then editing it and kind of just punching it together there's a lot of you shoot it you put it in and then you have to add you know probably three or four graphics per like shot really so it's a lot of you shoot it, you put it in, and then you have to add, you know, probably three or four graphics per like shot, really. So it's a lot.
From my perspective, it seems like a lot because when we go out there, we had four people with cameras. And after every hole, we had to do a clap to reset the cameras so that they can go back and look at the footage.
A lot of moving parts. A lot of like because it's weird when you're on a golf course it's different than being in front of a microphone in a studio you're just saying shit constantly so there could be a funny line that they got to find or some weird moment um i think there will be a little teaser for the golf video um i was a tremendous teammate to hank i didn't bash him whatsoever when he was not close to me.

I watched it last night.

What did I say?

A lot of mean things.

Basically.

Hank watched a rough cut.

He watched a rough cut.

I watched the long.

I wouldn't want to be teammates with anyone else in the world.

So it's, you know.

But, yeah, there might have been some times where when you were, like,

20 feet away out of earshot, I would mutter something under have been some times where when you were like 20 feet

away out of earshot i would mutter something under my breath and then when you came back i was like way to go hank let's keep going but that no spoilers it's funny it's not nice but it's funny people will enjoy it okay what will you miss most about new york when you move do you have any new ideas slash segments for when you move to Chicago?

Ooh, good question.

We have a lot of new stuff we're gonna do uh both pmt and also like office wise we're gonna be streaming a lot a lot want to talk about that hank no okay we are gonna be streaming a lot there will be a lot of think of like uh stool streams but on steroids and with a ton of space. And less organized.
And less organized, but in a fun way. Yes, more chaotic.
So you'll see a lot of us doing random shit, just being like, oh, I bet you can't do this, and then being able to prove it right away. We basically have, it's imagine if we had a basketball court right outside our studio now.
Like we have,. It's for creative people.
It's like a giant just here you go, do whatever you want, and we're going to be able to utilize that in a way we haven't had that for seven years. Since I watched the first episode of Robin Big, I wanted a fun factory.
That shit ruled. What are you going to miss most about New York? I am going to miss absolutely nothing about this place okay i hate getting on the subway i hate getting off i hate where our offices is just about homeless people and and drug overdoses you're just walking over i think dead people to get into the office every day uh i did see a woman just like give me just straight up eye contact while she was pissing right in front of our office the other day that was kind of cool though it was borderline hot if you want to put on the bunk list that's fine but it was kind of like what's going on here i will miss the maybe one or two times a year that i'm either going to a game at msg or going home on the amtrak where i can just walk and be five minutes away yeah um what are are you going to miss, Max? I'm going to miss a lot.
I love New York City, honestly. Oh.
But no, I gasped because yesterday I saw I was walking down the street and there was a guy literally butt ass naked just shitting right in front of my face. And I was walking with my girlfriend and it was one of those things where I was like, holy fuck.
And I actually moved her out of the way. It was a big fight or flight moment.
I was like, that man is shitting right in my face. Yeah, I think there's good parts of New York.
There's good parts of every big city. Yeah, if our office was in a cool area where it's like you walk outside, there's like a park, we just walk outside into just chaos.
I actually will miss... I've grown to like New York a lot more

than when we first moved here.

There is...

You live in Brooklyn.

Yeah.

Some may say that's more New York than Manhattan.

I guess.

I mean, that's true New Yorkers.

I would say I will miss...

New York is very different than any other city

in that it's like there's so many different walks of life so many different people and characters and just like weirdos but like in a good way i don't know i will miss a little of that some of the edge a little of the edge tiny bit of the edge no no i'm literally racking my brain to think of what i'm gonna miss miss. But it's like, you know, there's good food and good restaurants.

There's good food and restaurants in Chicago.

Yeah.

There's water.

There's water in Chicago.

I know there's been a hotly contested debate online recently.

But, yes, I am a big believer that every city has good parts, bad parts, good things, you know, negatives, all that.

But living in a city is fun.

And you make it what you want to make it.

So, yeah.

I will miss a little of the edge, though.

I'll see you next time. but living in a city is fun and you make it what what you want to make it so yeah i will miss a little the edge though i also started liking new york once covid hit because like then that no like it was like half capacity i and i don't want to sound like a new york hater i just have living here sucks i'll be excited i will be excited to come back here and visit because you can come here for 48 hours and do everything you can eat at a good place you can go out have a crazy night there's all types of but like i'm not a huge nightlife guy anymore i'm not even a huge foodie really like so living here and paying what you have to pay to live here is not worth it but i think it'll be fun to visit i love it here yeah great the only big downside coming from florida it's really hard to play golf tennis pretty much any sport like yeah that's something it is you have to make a big effort and it eats up all your day just to do something that anywhere else is pretty easy i guess yeah the only thing i'll miss about new york is the people for real i do like the people are weird they're interesting they're cool they're gritty i don't know i do like the walking aspect too you can walk everywhere and do anything yeah play golf.
Except play golf. All right.
Last one. I will not miss my commute.
That is ass. Yeah.
People don't know, but Memes commutes like 90 minutes one way. Yeah.
And then same back. Jesus Christ.
I mean, it's insane. Yeah.
It's insane. Hello, PMT.
I've been trying to figure out for a long time, and maybe it's an inside joke you don't want to disclose. But what is the common denominator for guests that get the, and now for something completely different, snippet before the interview? Oh.
I didn't know we do that. That's for a two-guess episode, right? That's a twofer.
Oh. Interesting.
I didn't know we do that that's for a two guest episode right oh interesting i didn't know we do that i should probably listen to the show i thought that was pretty self-explanatory yeah that does seem self-explanatory because it's just one interview and now for a different interview yeah yeah okay um anything else that's it no oh have you ever Have you ever gotten it? I've never even gotten it. Oh, memes.
All right. Hank, have you ever gotten a lottery ball? No.
By the way, I posted it, all the stats publicly. People coming at Big Cat for only getting one.
I've gotten one. They fly forever.
What do you want to do? I've gotten one. People are like, are you going to talk about the fact you've only got one? Yeah.
You just said it. I got one.
One is all you need. And people do forget the day that I got one, I actually got two.
Well. It didn't count officially, but we were here doing short porch.
I've got one then too, just not officially. No, you actually haven't gotten it unofficially.
I mean, if we're just making stuff up. I mean, it was literally taped.
No, no, I'm not taking credit for it, but I'm saying I literally got it in two days.

Two in one day.

You've never gotten even when we're fucking around.

You don't know that.

So go to my Twitter.

I tweeted out the Google Doc.

It's visible to anyone.

Thank you, Jake, for backing me up.

Flags fly forever.

If you had one, what would you?

People can start.

We just had this debate, right? About 50 years.

If Hank gets two and I'm still stuck on one, then he can flip it on me. Absolutely.
That would be fair. But right now, I got one.
You got none. You've never gotten this.
You have a ring the rest of your life. Have you ever gotten this? No.
I have. Ask me that.
Ask me the same question. Have you ever gotten this? Yes.
Okay, numbers. 6-9.
1. My son has 2.
6. 17.
20. What were you looking at before? It's a different angle, you know? What was your guess, Beams?

One.

55.

Was that one of the ones that Stathol told him to guess?

Oh, no.

Oh, no.

I think it was.

No, Stathol said 50 said uh 50 54 ah don't fuck

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