Championship Sunday, Fastest 2 Minutes + Eli Manning

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On today's Pardon My Take, Conference Championship Sunday, Super Bowl 57 is set. We also have Eli Manning.
Ever heard of him? He's won two Super Bowls. We have him on the show.
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Week Conference Championship. Whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop.
We start in Philadelphia where Brock Hurdy had a Liberty-sized bell crack in his elbow in the first quarter, giving us Josh Johnson from San Diego, from the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, from the Sacramento Mountain Lions, from the Cleveland Browns, from the Cincinnati Bengals, from the New York Jets, from the Indianapolis Colts. From the Buffalo Bills.
From the Baltimore Ravens. From the New York Giants.
From the Houston Texans. From the Oakland Redskins.
From the Washington Redskins. We don't say that word anymore.
From the San Diego Fleet. From the Detroit Lions.
From the Los Angeles Wildcats.? The Denver Broncos. That's a lot of froms.
Who's Kyle Shanaman is this as he showed that he's the worst challenger since 1986 after keeping the flag in his pocket on a Devontae Smith bobble turning the game early? Speaking of who, I can see for miles and miles and miles, Sanders found pay dirt twice. Update the ledger.
Nick, Wawa, so serious. Sonny has fast Batman, fat Batman, and muscle Batman on his side.
And the Eagles are headed back to the Super Bowl. Grease up those light poles, Philadelphia.
Eagles 31, Niners 7. And we finish in Kansas City where Andy Patrick Reed was ready for a fight But in a stunning reversal of roles It was his opponent, the Bengals That threw a tee Leading to a tied second half game After Higgins found the end zone The contest unfortunately Had a lot to do with the refs As Ron Tobert and Ernie Called the game like an absolute muppet While the line judge Jeff Big Bigload of Seaman was an absolute nut.
Joseph Osai, can you see that Patrick Mahomes is two steps out of bounds as the Bengals defender got a critical late hit penalty, leading to a Harrison Ford Bucker successfully landing a plane for once through the uprights. We're in for a treat as Candy Reed now faces his former team in Super Bowl 57.
The Chiefs 23, the Cincinnati Bengals 20. And that was a quick fastest two minutes.
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Okay, conference championship. We have Super Bowl 57 set in Phoenix, Arizona, February 12th.
Glendale, Arizona. Glendale, Arizona, and Scottsdale, Arizona as well, where most of the events will be being held.
The Philadelphia Eagles going against the Kansas City Chiefs, conference championship weekend. It was a weird fucking day.
It was a weird day, and we're going to do a little flip it and reverse it because the Chiefs-Bengals game has a lot more to talk about and we just finished watching it so we're going to start with that then we'll get to Eagles-Niners PFT I think we should do something real quick before we get into this game. I think we should set a timer set a timer Jake I think we should allow ourselves three minutes to talk about the refs because no one really wants to hear hear a podcast talk about the refs, but we do at least need to acknowledge it.
So three minutes, and then we talk about the game. Okay, so the Chiefs had a stunning – ready, set, go.
Okay, so the Chiefs had some great fifth-down conversion plays in their arsenal. Yes, they did.
So Andy Reid thought of everything. They had the one play that never happened.
It was like a wrinkle in time that just got wiped off the face of the earth there was the uh the a missed hold towards the end of the game on sam hubbard on the scramble play where patrick mahomes went out about possibly missed blocking the back there were two missed blocks in the back on that one punt return which was a shitty punt don't get me wrong it was like a line drive should have gotten more air under but they missed those the late hit call was good that was the correct call it was 100 but they also missed a late hit call earlier against joe mixon as the bangles were going so my biggest deal with the refs is this is championship sunday we should be watching four teams playing the best football of the year going into the super bowl to punch a ticket and instead we watch that game and even if you are an objective unbiased observer you're not a Bengals or a Chiefs fan you watch that game and you're like they have no fucking clue what's going on the the refereeing was was bad spots were bad everything was bad and it shouldn't be that because it takes away from the actual games and I do feel bad for Bengals fans fans. We'll get into the actual game.
I still think the Chiefs, like, you know, they were the team that made more plays when it counted at the end. So they deserve to win.
I'm not taking anything away. But we shouldn't even have to do three minutes about the refs.
And the refs were crazy. The refs decided a lot of shit in the first game, too, which was obviously an easier win for the Eagles.
But, man, were they bad zach taylor just spent the second half of the game with his blood pressure up around like 250 and rightfully screaming the entire time there was nothing he could do he he should have gone the pat bev route and like brought a camera down on the sidelines and just showing them hey here's all the stuff that you're fucking up for me i do feel bad for bangles fans uh They played well enough to win at times.

At times.

It was a good matchup.

It was a good matchup between two good teams.

So I was hoping that it was going to have more to do with what happened on the field

and not waiting to see what's going to happen with all these calls.

Now, that being said, this shit is rigged.

The NFL is rigged.

It's rigged for ratings or for money.

We suspended the award.

The script.

No, Jake.

This week.

You two are still a majority vote.

Well, guess what?

I think that we should do the award this week because by default there's only one play that was called correctly this entire weekend. So we'll have the Kadarius Tony touchdown.
The NFL is rigged. It's scripted.
Everything. They get a script at the start of every season and then Hollywood kicks them out because no one would believe the script.
Then they bring back a rewrite and they're like, okay, we can believe this script. They want Patrick Mahomes in the Super Bowl.
Jake, time out real quick to look up a fact. Pause.
23 seconds. Okay, time out to look up a quick fact.
What is the name of the stadium in Glendale, Arizona? I believe it's State Farm Stadium. Huh, that's interesting.
Yeah, that's crazy. Oh, Patrick Mahomes on every commercial? That's interesting.
Isn't that interesting? Wait, time back in.

Isn't that interesting?

Huh.

So we're not suspending the award?

We're giving it?

That's just a little bit interesting.

If you ask me, the number one spokesperson going into the stadium that's named after this insurance company?

Huh.

I think it's 10 seconds.

Okay, it's rigged.

Nine.

It's rigged.

Eight.

It's rigged.

Seven.

It's rigged.

Rigged.

Six.

The NFL is rigged.

NFL rigged.

Rigged.

Rigged. Rigged.
Rigged. No, it's rigged.
No, give her the award this week. It's rigged.
It rigged It's rigged The NFL is rigged Give me the award

Give me the award

No it's rigged

No get rid of the award this week

It's rigged

It's suspended

Rigged

Whoa

Nice Jake

Okay

Let's talk about the game

Jake has bad to the bone as his alarm

Let's talk about the game

Because I think we did justice there

For Bengals fans who were tuning in

And wanted justice

This game was awesome

Outside of everything we just talked about because it was mahomes and burrow like going shot for shot at times where you felt like the bangles were out of it but they're never out of it that huge drive that joe burrow had that touchdown to t higgins mah was like – I mean, I still think his ankle is clearly a lot better than we thought, but still, that run to set up the perfect late hit was like a gutsy run. And he made – the pass that Mahomes made was his second touchdown pass.
I can't remember who he threw it to, but it was one of the sickest passes, greatest drives, like gutsy drives. Hardman.
Hardman, yeah. Remember when he stepped up? I'm sorry, MVS.
MVS. MVS, he stepped up in the pocket, hit him with an absolute seed right down the middle of the field.
It was both of those quarterbacks were just – you felt like either of them could win that game late, and the Chiefs just made plays like they made more plays and the and the punt return was obviously very significant it's funny because we've been talking all year how the Chiefs special teams would bite them in the ass it actually went reverse kind of won them that game because that was a like was it you know like 30 seconds left they get a 20 yard return that now says hey all we need is like 20 yards here and maybe a late hit out of bounds which was the correct call it was the correct call that's not a ref complaint because they got that right and people who were upset about that call they call that a hundred times out of 100 especially on patrick mahomes right especially on one of the best quarterbacks in the league so maybe there was something to the fact that since patrick mahomes was injured and he's kind of like limp running you start licking your chops if you're a defender. You're like, I want to lay this dude out.
Right. And you keep going.
He had both feet out of bounds. Osai hit him and immediately started crying.
One, because his knee buckled. And then two, because he was like, oh shit.
I literally cost my team a trip to the Super Bowl. That sucks so bad.
Potentially by doing that. I feel bad for him.
I feel bad for the guy because by all accounts, everybody in Cincinnati loves him. Maybe maybe not anymore but they used to love him up until that point and they were zooming in on his face oh yeah it was just like let's get all of this he basically was getting the treatment of like um a band member in march madness yeah the villanova fluke yeah that's what let's just get him at his absolute worst which you have to do if you're the broadcast two things that the cameramen love is just finding hot chicks in the crowd and just putting a camera on them for some reason, and then if somebody's crying.
And we even had crying before the game. Chris Jones wept during the national anthem.
That's fucking cool as shit. That's the most metal thing that you can do is to cry during your country's national anthem.
Yes, no Sean Moreno. You knew that it was on from the moment that Chris Jones was crying.
Also, you knew it was on from when Chris Jones dropped the Burrowhead seal at Burrowhead remark. This was like a heat check moment where it's like, I think most logical people heard the Burrowhead talk and were like, wait a second, Patrick Mahomes is pretty good at football.
Right. And it seems like they're trying to anoint the Bengals as completely owning the Chiefs a little too early.
This is like the stuff that you talk after that game's over, maybe if you beat them again. And they definitely heard it, definitely pissed them off and gave them a little extra motivation, I think.
It was also like the Bengals have spent the last two years being the plucky underdog, the team that no one believes in. They're winning these games out of like, you know, like some of them crazy lucky bounces some of them just joe burrow and the rest of the team is super talented their defense in the second half all that stuff and then the burrowhead it's not like they needed more motivation because the afc championship game but it did flip it a little bit where it's like oh the bangles aren't really the plucky underdog anymore they're talking shit ahead and talk the shit.
But then you see the reverse with Chris Jones before the game, Chris Jones making basically the defensive play of the game when he sacked Joe Burrow on that third and seven with 45 seconds left. And then Travis Kelsey just running up the score with them with the Burrowhead my ass and calling the Cincinnati mayor a jabroni.
jabroni rj used rj he's recurring guest a part of my take but yeah when those things when you talk shit and you lose you have to you have to expect it to come back yeah that's the guy that that billy at lunch without microphones or anything was just like hey mr mayor uh let's put our cards on the table have you seen the harambe footage yeah. That's the same guy.
So he's been a recurring event on this show. He's a jabroni right now.
He now has to admit he's a jabroni. He's Mayor Jabroni.
Should I call him? Call Mayor Jabroni. He's probably not doing so hot right now.
Probably not. He just got called the jabroni in front of the entire nation.
I'll text him and ask him for a comment if he has a comment on being a jabroni. Yeah.
Are the rumors true? Are you a jabroni? Mr. Mayor.
No, Mr. Jabroni.
Mr. Mayor Jabroni.
Mayor Jabroni. Mayor Jabroni.
Mayor Jabroni. He's Mayor Jabroni now.
Mayor Jabroni. And also leading up to the game, when Eli Apple starts telling you, see you in Cancun, have fun talking all that shit in Cancun, that should have been another indication.
You know how people that are really good at picking stocks say, when my parents hit me up and ask me about a stock that's what I know that it's time to sell once Eli Manning starts talk or excuse me Eli Apple starts talking shit to you about like okay have fun on your vacation the run's about to end yeah at that point and it's flying too close to the sun it did feel like there was a couple plays where it felt like the Bengals,

team of destiny, like they just find a way.

I mean, the Patrick Mahomes fumble, which was so crazy

that he just flubbed the ball in the middle of the air.

They ended up going for it on fourth and six,

which was a gutsy call in no man's land.

Huge, huge shot down the field to Jamar Chase.

And then when the Bengals got the ball back with like two minutes left and you're like, all right, here we go. Here's Joe Burrow.
It's going to happen. They pick up that third and 17, which was just a crazy, you know, like holy fuck, they just did this.
They're going to go all the way down the field. They're going to kick a field goal.
They're going to go to the Super Bowl. And then Chris Jones, problem.
Problem. This was what we said on Friday, like the Cincinnati Bengals offensive line line and they get credit because they did everything they could in their power to fix it and then injuries happen so it's not like we're sitting here back here after last year's Super Bowl being like how could the Bengals not see this coming they did everything they could to fix that offensive line they had a really like unfortunate string of injuries at the end of the year and then they they go into Buffalo they play a great game uh you know snow game hard for the defensive line the Bills don't have playmakers like that on the defensive line then they come up against Frank Clark and Chris Jones and you saw it like they they adjusted well after the what was it four sacks in the first I think Joe Burrow had the same amount of completions as sacks in the first quarter.
And from that point on, the Bengals adjusted well. But when the big play happens, it's like Chris Jones is going to beat the guy in front of him because the guy in front of him is not that great.
Yeah, and the crazy thing is Joe played well enough to overcome most of those things too. Right.
He threw that dime to Jamar on fourth down. Yeah.
That's great. We were watching the game, and that's the kind of throw that great quarterbacks make.
You have Jamar Chase. Throw him the ball.
I know he's in double coverage. Throw the ball downfield.
Let Jamar Chase make a play on it. Just a side note here, the Bengals uniforms tonight looked awesome.
I think they were whiter. Which hurts more because when you – It was neon white.
Yeah, if you're a Bengals fan, there's going to be a lot of sadness. You do have Joe Burrow, and you also have another shot at this thing with all these guys not – I think all their wide receivers don't have to get paid for another year.
So you got another shot of it. But to have sick-looking uniforms, then you close your eyes, you're like, damn, we looked fucking good, and we lost.
It's brutal. And the whole game, it was crazy because neither team could run the ball.
Joe Burrow had the most rushing yards of the entire game with 30. Yeah, that one run that he had for like 15 yards in the fourth quarter, that was the longest run of the game.
Or the one that he had where it was like the perfect design play where there was just no one in the middle of the field. He picked up a big third down.
Yeah, it was just big play after big play by both guys, and the Chiefs made more big plays. Their defensive line showed up when it needed to, and that was the difference in the game.
It was crazy watching the Chiefs, too, because it felt like the entire second half. I don't know if it's because who got hurt.
Nicole Hartman got hurt. I think Kadarius Toney got hurt.
You could see it. The Chiefs didn't have – I mean, MVS was the guy who was doing the most of the work.
They didn't have those difference makers that you're used to watching a Chiefs game, but they made a few plays, and Patrick Mahomes back in the Super Bowl. Like five years, three Super Bowl appearances.
He's going to win his second MVP probably in a couple weeks. To Joe Flacco-like first five years of his career.
Yeah, I mean, going into this, it was a lot of Mahomes versus Burrow. Like if Burrow wins, you've got to take Burrow.
I don't know. I mean, Patrick Mahomes is still Patrick Mahomes.
He's fucking incredible. Yeah, so what ended up happening this week was it played perfectly into the Chiefs' hands

because the Chiefs, they can't even do it as a bit anymore to be like,

nobody believes in us.

It's us against the world.

Everyone thinks that we suck.

And the Bengals gave them all that legitimate bulletin board material to look at.

That's like day one stuff.

That's how Nick Saban gets his teams that are filled with like infinity five-star recruits

to be like, nobody thinks that you can win a football game against Troy. Right.
You know, like in the NFL, the Chiefs have reached that level where they're expected with their favorite every single week. Everybody believes, like literally everyone in the NFL believes in the Chiefs.
Yes. But this week they were able to say with a straight face, nobody believes in you.
They don't think that you can win. Everyone's against you this week.
And they bought into it. And it was patrick mahomes being a dog too yeah no he was awesome today patrick mahomes he for considering the pain that he was dealing with with that foot taped up he didn't take a shot he said he was a fucking beast today yeah and he you know i think that because he was playing and looked i don't know somewhat like normal mahomes obviously he was still injured we we we like i i at least during the game forgot at moments that he had a high ankle sprain like seven days ago because he is that type of dude and he's tough as fuck made big plays when it mattered and the bangles man this is i mean think i guess when you have five afc championship games at arrowhead you have like iconic like, iconic moments.
But Joseph Asai is up there with Dee Ford now. Like, in terms of a game-changing play that probably cost you a chance at a Super Bowl.
Yeah. And, you know, I don't know if – was there, like, 15 seconds left? So maybe they get a couple plays off and they're able to get those yards anyway.
No, I think the very next – It was eight seconds very next play was the kick yeah because it was it was a run it would have been like a 50 what 57 yard field goal something it was a 45 yarder so it would have been he was down at the 42 the cincinnati 42 so it's like a 60 yarder yeah 57 yarder and they were saying they would have had a chance cold it would have been bad um a comment the mayor, mayor of Cincinnati. Mayor Jabroni, excuse me.
Mayor Jabroni said, yeah, deserve that. Congrats to KC on a well-fought win and good luck in Arizona.
Proud of our fans and our Bengals for the energy all year. Who day? Okay, yeah.
He's a Jabroni. He's Mayor Jabroni.
Confirmed Mayor Jabroni. Yeah, I mean, he said I am Mayor Jabroni.
He should change his name to Mayor Jabroni. Yeah.
He is. What are you going to say, Billy? How can you have access to the Harambe footage and just never check it out if you have that power? That's true.
Think about it. It's a waste of power.
Yeah, like a Jabroni wouldn't do that. That's day one.
You go to the, you demand. Like if I was president, I'd be like, day one, I want to see the files on Nancy Reagan.
And then day two, I'd be like, give me the JFK stuff. If I'm the if I'm the mayor of Cincinnati show me the fucking Harambe film becoming the president being like well so what's the deal with aliens first question give me the alien shit clear my schedule this is really the only reason to run for mayor of Cincinnati I would create a life sized diorama of the Cincinnati Zoo in the office and then just have it set up with bullet trajectory paths.
Yeah, tell me exactly. Was there a second shooter? The good news is we don't have to make a Nick Sirianni murdering Harambe shirt.
We could do an Andy Reid. We could do an Andy Reid for this game.
So people know the shirt that we put on sale last year when the Rams beat the Bengals. We had our end-of-the-year merch review, and it was a top-ten selling shirt.
The one with Sean McVay holding a smoking gun, and Harambe has bullets in his chest. So, yeah, that – listen, you're a lot of sick fucks out there.
Remember when the thought popped in my head and I had Triggs who's an incredible artist draw that for us I said this is a terrible thought and anyone who buys this shirt's a sicko turns out there's a lot of sickos out there we actually told people not to buy the shirt and it was one of our most successful shirts the entire year you guys don't listen to us it is crazy We'll do all of our Super Bowl storylines on Wednesday because this is now a legacy for Andy Reid and Patrick Mahomes going back to another Super Bowl. I think we were saying this maybe a week ago.
If you're going to be the team of this decade, you've got to win more than one. And now going to three in five years and potentially winning another one, like that would, that would put it on the map of like, Hey, these guys have owned these last half decade of, of NFL football.
Yeah. I'm just glad that we don't have to go through with a whole Tom Brady, Peyton Manning debate, like trying to make Joe Burrow and Patrick Mahomes and Tom Brady, Peyton Manning.
It made no sense. I just I like saying that Joe Burrow and Patrick Mahomes are like Joe Burrow and Patrick Mahomes.
Right it also just made it was basically everyone was trying to they saw these two quarterbacks young quarterbacks in the AFC they're like what is this like oh it's like that last time we had two young quarterbacks but it made no sense because the the idea was that Mahomes is Pey peyton manning and you know is awesome and wins the mvps and then burrow beats him in the playoffs but mahomes already has a super yeah manning didn't have a super for a long time it's a lot like the the brady peyton manning debate if peyton manning had a super bowl and tom brady didn't have one yeah made. It makes zero sense whatsoever.
So I'm glad we just get to be like, it's Joe Burrow and Patrick Mahomes. They're both pretty good.
Let's enjoy watching them. And the Brady-Manning debate just set up perfectly for sports debates because Manning was the better quarterback in the regular season all the time and Brady just had all the rings.
Yeah. It's just completely flipped here.
It was dumb. I'm glad we don't have to pretend to have that conversation and rings yeah so yeah I would say Patrick Mahomes still still on top I you know Bengals fans that is going to be that that is that's worse than the Super Bowl loss I would say because you you had that game it felt like you never had the game but it did feel like with two and a half minutes left, when Joe Burrow picks up that third and 17, you're like, this is it.
We're going to do this is going to be it. Joe Burrow's the man.
And it must be incredible rooting for a guy like Joe Burrow because I obviously had that future on the Bengals. I never hedged because I was like, oh, even down 13, six at half, you're like, it's Joe Burrow.
Like, he'll be back in this game. They're going to be back in this game.
They always are back in the game. And they just, the luck kind of ran out.
Yeah. It's tough.
It's got to be a tough morning. You're probably not listening to this if you're a Bengals fan.
Let's be honest. You might be listening to this maybe on Wednesday.
Yeah, probably not. In which case, I hope that you're doing okay.
I also, I want to say one thing for Bengals fans I do um I did think that you guys were maybe the most sensitive fan base in uh the NFL this year but now I'm on your side because you have rights to complain and and and get your complaints off like what you have now is a week of I want to see all the screen grabs. I want to see the block in the back, still images.
I want that tweeted at everyone. Like, when you lose a game like that, the only thing that you have in terms of, like, therapy is to get in arguments with random people online for the next five days and just be like, look at this play.
Look at this play. Five days.
you're gonna i want to see the screenshots i want you to circle them using the telestrator tool i want i want you to reply to every adam schefter tweet with like four separate photos of ways that you got hosed today i want you i want you to just be very active because you need to get these emotions out in some way and i think that i think just spite and vengeance are going to be the two emotions that you need to lean heavily on yes and i have to imagine that cincinnati will be lining up behind the philadelphia eagles yes right in the super bowl so america cincinnati is now i actually i think didn't we say that uh cincinnati was the philadelphia of ohio yeah this is perfect the sister city of philly you're ready to go cincinn philly with c fucking since he no one likes us and we don't care yeah um and and the Chiefs you have Patrick Mahomes and that's the greatest thing that you could ever have in the entire world in terms of all the things I big house I'd rather have Patrick Mahomes yeah if you're like a hundred million dollars or gets a roof of Patrick Mahomes I think it I think it might be like if you can't watch if you're a Chiefs fan, it's like you can't watch Patrick Mahomes or you can have this lump sum of cash. Patrick Mahomes brings happiness that money can't buy.
Would you rather have a big, giant family who all loves you or Patrick Mahomes? Probably Patrick Mahomes. No doubt about it.
Chiefs-aholic has Patrick Mahomes. He might be in prison right now, but he's still very, very his life because he still has patrick yeah like it would you rather like you have to have a car that breaks down every single week no matter what it's like groundhogs day so you don't even realize like oh shit my car is broken down again but you get to root for patrick mahomes take that deal patrick mahomes every fucking yeah patrick mahomes it's patrick i'd say patrick mahomes you can't buy patrick no no you can just hope to draft him.
And it'll never happen. Yeah, never, ever.
Never again. I mean, it's just, yeah, the Chiefs are fucking, they make big plays.
Patrick Mahomes is a dog. It will be interesting to see what happens with some of these injuries because didn't you feel like the Chiefs had no explosive plays? Yeah.
They had a bunch of plays where Travis Kelsey would get open or Patrick Mahomes would buy enough time to find someone, but it never felt like they had a designed, here's a perfect design play where we just know we're going to rip off 30 yards. Yeah.
Like the Pacheco play. I was going to say, Pacheco is really their main guy that I would want the ball in his hands all the time.
He's a monster. Pacheco is awesome, and puzzles me why they keep giving the ball to Jarek McKinnon because he's just a less talented version of Pacheco and Pacheco's awesome.
Pacheco never stops moving. He never stops moving.
People can't tackle him for some reason. It's like he's greased up and so I don't know why they insist on like, maybe like it's a load management thing.
They don't want Pacheco to get too tired running for 15 yards every time he has the ball in his hands there was one play there was one point in the game where he had a huge play got kind of like his bell rung a little bit and then they put in jarek mckinnon so he could catch his breath and jarek mckinnon just promptly ripped off a minus two yard that's what he does yeah minus two yard swing passes yeah it makes no sense why you would work mckinninnon into the rotation when you have a perfectly good Isaiah Pacheco right there. How crazy was that Mahomes fumble? That was the other moment where if you're a Bengals fan, you're like, this is it.
We got it. The ball just fell out.
And credit to Tony Romo, who's like, I don't know if that's a fumble or not. Yeah.
Of course, yeah, Tony doesn't know. Tony doesn't know.
Tony had an all-time bad day today. Very bad.
Just annoying. Just yelling over my television the entire time.
Debating that holding penalty when it was going to be either fourth and eight or third and like 18. It's like, dude, don't give Patrick Mahomes another play.
Yeah. Why would you? Like that is just certified death.
The refs tried to do it, giving them another play. Yeah.
But don't give give him another play let them decide what to do with a fourth and eight and they ended up punting and uh fuck man yeah that was a good game other than the rest it was a great game i had to take last week that uh kirk cousins has had a better nfl career than tony romo did oh and people people got mad but then you look at the facts oh yeah no and you can lie. Yeah.
Fact or fiction, I would rather have Kirk Cousins as the quarterback of my team for his whole career than Tony Romo. That's a fact.
If Tony Romo was the starting quarterback for the Carolina Panthers his entire career, nobody would know his name. He would be like a funny name that we bring up.
I'd forget him. I already forgot him.
He actually would maybe be more loved because we'd be like, remember Tony Romo, like, man, he was good, but he played for a bad team. What if he was on? Yeah.
He'd get Jake Plummer'd. Right.
Right. Like, man, just things didn't work out for him.
Yeah. Okay.
Anything else on the Chiefs-Bengals game? Travis Kelsey has 15 postseason touchdown catches, tying Rob Gronkowski for the most by a tight end in NFL history. Whoa.
I'm still a Gronk guy. I say Gronk over Kelsey, but he's making it hard for me to stay on that take.
He's not even a big game player. He's every game player.
He's every game player. Hank, I have a debate for you.
What would you rather have? All the years that you've had with Tom Brady in your past before he left you and left you in a ditch, and he's going to go play for even another team afterwards or you get to have Patrick Mahomes and the entire future of Patrick Mahomes in front of you Brady okay six almost also Frank Clark uh is now I believe second all-time third all-time he had another one and a half sacks. So he passed Terrell Suggs, and I believe he might be a half a sack behind Bruce Smith.
So he's going for history in the Super Bowl. Most career playoff sacks, which is insane.
Because also, I'm pretty sure Chris Jones, he had two sacks this game. I think the first one was his first playoff sack.
Really? Yeah, I believe so. I think think they said that on the broadcast which kind of makes sense because he's doing a lot of other things that aren't you know like a space eater yeah right but then they put they put him out on the edge on that third and seven and he just fucking won it easily and that was i mean again the play of the game on defense for the chiefs because that it did feel like bro was gonna go down the field all right uh let's do a quick ad and then let's do the NFC championship game let's do it uh the NFC championship game is brought to you by our great friends over at Peloton Hank you were on the Peloton this weekend weren't you yep love the Peloton you did an hour workout you psycho I've been using the Peloton app I've been doing treadmill workouts too on the peloton i love them i hate running but i love using the peloton app and the peloton tread i got to try it out uh like a couple years ago on their showroom the peloton tread is awesome it's a really really good piece of workout equipment it's great because you can switch up your entire workout routine and the live leaderboard pushes you harder.
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The fact that you're thinking of me when you just went or going to the Super Bowl. I also think we get a lot of, like, we give Patrick Mahomes a, how can you not give him credit? He's the fucking best quarterback in the NFL.
Was he not number one in your postseason rankings? Of course he was. He's the best quarterback in the NFL.
It's Chiefs fans looking to get more

credit for Patrick Mahomes. Shut the fuck up.

You don't deserve that right now. We give

a ton of credit. Patrick Mahomes is the best quarterback

in the NFL. I can't say it enough.

We would literally give up everything.

Don't be the guys being like, you guys gotta give us

more credit. You guys get all the credit.

Patrick Mahomes is the best quarterback in the NFL.

If you gave me the opportunity, I would leave

this podcast tomorrow if it meant that I got to root for Patrick Mahomes. I'd leave everything.
Go live out in the desert somewhere in a tent. If it meant that on Sundays I could come into a city with electricity and watch Patrick Mahomes play football for my favorite team.
Just watch one game. I wouldn't even watch the rest of the NFL.
Yeah, no, just him. Just him every week.
Also, we have the Chiefs players, which I love saying on, it looked like an Instagram Live,

Eli Apple, I'm going to smoke one for you as they're holding cigars.

And then even better, the first reply is receipts are here too,

and it's just a screen grab of the hold on Trey Hendrickson

on that third and four with 15 seconds left.

It was a hold.

It was a hold.

We addressed it in the refs.

We can't comment any further about it.

If you want to, you're more than welcome to rewind the first part of the show and listen to three minutes of ref bashing yes um okay eagles niners what we expected to be an incredible game turned out to be uh the niners having every single player get hurt uh they got brock purdy got hurt then josh johnson came in josh Josh Johnson's played for 14 NFL teams. Then he got hurt.
Then Brock Purdy came back in, couldn't throw the ball, but it doesn't matter because the Eagles won the game and they want it handily. I know that like, obviously everything changes once Brock Purdy gets hurt.
Cause they, they literally couldn't throw the ball for essentially three quarters of the game, but the Eagles Eagles won, and there's no apologies here, right, Max? 22-1 kid marches on. Definitely no apologies here.
No apologies. Let's also not forget that Christian McCaffrey got in for a little bit of quarterback, and he threw a pass that landed, I think, 25 yards away from any eligible receiver.
It was impressive. It was.
I didn't think that it was possible to have a ball go that far away from any teammates. Usually, like, on any play, just by happenstance, if you throw the ball downfield, you'll be closer than what he tried to do.
But when they put Brock Purdy back in, it was pretty apparent he could not throw the ball more than, like, five, six yards. He said that his hand went numb, so it's like a UCL thing.
So he just went out there and, like, tried to push the ball downfield best he could. But that game was over.
There was nothing that they could do. I felt bad for 49ers players.
Their offensive line, Trent Williams, didn't want to play in that game anymore because there's no point. You know that you can't do anything on offense.
The Niners would have been better off just throwing the ball downfield in an arm punt situation, like getting a 40-yard interception or punting on first down and then hoping somehow that your defense could score a defensive touchdown to win that game that would have statistically i think they would have been more likely to win the game had they done that i'd agree and uh my friend stuck he said online it was like a mac game and it really was like there was vibes of a mac game going on when you had you know the josh johnson come, then him get hurt, then Brock Purdy come back in,

punts hitting the wire.

Kyle Shanahan not challenging the Devontae Smith catch in the first quarter was very significant.

I don't – the biggest thing for me was, like,

the Eagles' offense didn't look great.

Their defense was incredible.

Like, they – you're never trying to injure a quarterback,

but their defensive line was just all up in the niners backfield the entire game yeah and and they just absolutely destroyed them yeah it's time to start asking the question is is there something about kyle shanahan's play calling that gets all of his quarterbacks injured that's he's a question we should ask he's a great head coach brock purdy does he just love injuring guys? Yeah, Brock Purdy was perfect today, 4-4-4. He was.
4-4-4, 29 yards? Three yards. 23 yards.
Okay. What's his total QBR on that? His QBR was 90, or his quarterback rating was 90.6.
That's a good game. That's a good day.
Pretty good day. We also had Ric Flair chime in.
He said, Brock Purdy, I crashed in an airplane. Get in the game.
What the fuck? I was saying during the game, if you're going to get injured as a quarterback, you weirdly, in a game like that, you weirdly want to get injured to the point where it's so visible. It's like, this guy's so in.
Your leg's broken or you're concussed. Because having to stand there on the sideline, I was getting flashbacks to Jay Cutler in the NFC Championship championship game he's like what you're standing why can't you get in the game it's like well no he's injured but the meatball brain comes over you're like dude it's the fucking nfc championship game why can't you throw a ball it reminded me a lot of grip yeah yeah it reminded me a lot of the colt mccoy game against alabama in the national championship where he gets hurt in the first half his shoulders fucked up and then he goes in the hallway and he's trying to throw passes to his dad and he can't complete a pass he fucked up because you can't have your dad be part of that process right it was true that you can't throw a pass but you just gotta leave your dad out because then everyone's like well his dad wouldn't let him go back in the game yeah Brock Purdy he was on the sidelines and he was still wearing his uniform so of course everybody like, if that was me, I'd be back in that game right now.
Yeah, dude, no problem. It would have gone down different.
Like, we're all Mark Wahlberg in that moment. But for him on the sideline, he couldn't throw.
They put Josh Johnson in. I like Josh Johnson.
Nice guy. There's probably a reason why he hasn't stuck around one of the 14 teams that he's been on.
Yeah, and also someone in the gambling cave was like, Josh Johnson sucks. Oh, Stephen Chase.
Josh Johnson sucks. You can't really say that about a guy who's the four-string quarterback on a team who then gets thrown into an NFC chain.
He didn't want to be there. Did you see him go for that fumble? I mean, that decided the game.
The fumble at the end of the first half with a minute left, he fumbles the ball, and his face was just like, I don't want to fucking put my nose in here. He's like, that dude's big.
Yeah, like I'm not doing this. I was supposed to stand here and hopefully go to the Super Bowl and like get maybe two comp tickets and that would have been sick.
Instead, he has to go in there and play against an Eagles defense that was just pinning their ears back all game and completely just fucked up everything the Niners were trying to do. Yeah, he was four quarters away from going on the world's best golf vacation to Arizona, having fun, probably getting paid.
Getting some interviews. Getting some interviews, getting paid by a couple sponsors step in.
He's doing interviews for Goodyear Tires on Radio Row. He would have had a great time, and now he's in a game he has no business he hadn't prepared for, and he's getting hit by Ndamukong Suh.
Right. That's about his biggest swing of the pendulum as you can imagine.
Josh Johnson was ready for his pre-game show that Fox does at like 5 in the morning on Super Bowl Sunday and a feature on Josh Johnson, the journeyman. He was ready for that moment, and it just didn't happen.
Got taken away. And I the Eagles offense.
I don't I'm not going to judge because they didn't look Max. You can chime in like they didn't look great.
But I also think once it was twenty one seven and a half and once it was clear that the Niners literally couldn't throw the ball. They're like, why would we why would we throw like why would we do why would we show anything other than just running the ball and winning this game? Yeah, I mean, that's what Sirianni's basically been doing all year is that we get up early and then just run the ball in the second half, and you're going to do that today more than any other day ever.
The only thing that could have hurt them was the turnover in the entire second half. Yeah, so, I mean, you just got to take care of business at that point.
But it was one of the weirdest games. Yeah.
Like, just from. It was uncomfortable to watch.
Yeah, it was. It was just because it was like a game you watched week two.
And you're like, whoa, they really don't have this quarterback situation figured out. Not an NFC championship game.
And you're like, this is not that. I mean, you probably never felt bad.
I never felt bad because I have the Eagles ticket but like there were moments where I was like whoa this is this kind of sad for the Niners like they can't do anything like their best case scenario was driving down the field like down three three touchdowns driving down the field eating like eight minutes of clock and maybe getting a touchdown at the end of it and like you could tell they were trying to do something a little bit different when they would just do these random like weird pitch plays to Debo and those would just get blown up for like minus four yards Debo was couldn't do anything that's when you know it's a problem yeah I think you got you said it best they just took care of business and yeah if it was like they had they had a business meeting they had to go to they showed up everything they stuck to the agenda and it was easy. The rest of it took care of itself.
I do think that there is an underrated superstar in Philadelphia, a hero that we need to address. Do you know about the pillar guy, Max? Do you know who the pillar guy is? I do not know who the pillar guy is.
His name is Jigar Desai. So before the NFC Championship game in 2018, he was on the SEPTA on the platform, and he was like running next to a train, like saying, let's go Eagles, E-A-G-L-E-S-Eagles.

And he's like looking at the people on the train, and he just runs straight into the pillar, gets knocked the fuck out by this pillar because he's so pumped up. So he said that he was going to keep the tradition alive Before this NFC Championship game

Go down to the SEPTA

And run into that same pillar again

Full speed

Just to bring good luck

And then that he was going to keep the tradition alive before this NFC Championship game, go down to the SEPTA, and run into that same pillar again, full speed,

just to bring good luck, and then go straight over to the link with his family afterwards.

So shout out the pillar guy.

Yeah, he did it.

That dude's a legend.

That guy's a legend.

That guy set the tone.

He's a Philly legend.

He's in the Philly Sports Fan Hall of Fame for sure.

Absolutely.

Yeah, I'm looking at it right now.

That is hilarious that he ran that back. That's why philly fans are just the best oh and the philly fans going after bosa before uh going after joey looked like such a fucking asshole joey joey joey joey and then you could tell joey bosa two signs that he was so rattled he He's like, what, are you going to post this with your butt buddies on Snapchat?

It's like, cool, Joey.

I love a good butt buddy.

And then he just started talking about how much richer he is because they were like,

go pay your fines.

He's like, yeah, I can afford it.

Do you know how much money I made?

Yeah, dude.

It was just so Philly to rattle.

Like, that's why you have to, like, anyone who doesn't love Philly in that way because

they just, it doesn't matter. If you're a family member, they're just going to fucking heckle the shit out of you.
And they just go, it's the same speed for everyone. So Bosa tried to not let it get under his skin at first.
He was like, ha ha ha. Good one, guys.
And he was like, he tried, he thought that he was just busting balls when he was like, what, are you going to tape that Snapchat to your butt, buddy? He was like, fucking nailed fucking nailed it that was awesome just talking some some shit and then you saw like his family starts because they see the moment where boses starts to snap yeah they've been around that before i'm sure where he just like gets into meathead mode you we saw it at the end of the c words game and he he's just he's escorted away by his family but he still has to to turn around and be like, I make more money than you.

What's up now?

This is actually a great hypothetical.

You know, like the hypotheticals, how many five-year-olds could you beat up?

How many drunk Philly meatballs could Joey Bosa beat up?

Because I actually don't think it's – I think it's probably like eight, maybe eight.

The drunker they are, the better I feel. Yeah, right.
Because they would just take shots and keep coming. Yeah, they would just eat punches.
Eight Philly fans versus Joey Bosa. Did you ever play like those Resident Evil games in the arcades where the zombies would just come at you and you'd shoot them with the guns? It's like that, except they have an unlimited supply in Philadelphia.
So you could probably take out the first eight to ten, and they always wear those big-ass hooded sweatshirts that you can just grab and sling around. So they'd be pretty easy to take out, but then once you reach a critical mass of probably a dozen enveloping you, then you just sink down into the sea.
They start eating you So, early thoughts. I'm not going to hedge.
Yeah, no. I think the Eagles are going to win this Super Bowl.
I really do. The Eagles are probably better than the Chiefs at every position group other than quarterback.
Tight end. Quarterback and tight end.
Offensive, defensive line. offensive, defensive line, I'm taking the birds, receiver room, birds, running game birds, secondary birds.
The Eagles have the better roster. Patrick Mahomes.
It's Patrick Mahomes. And I will say Jalen Hurts running the ball today, it looked like he's getting closer back to 100% because he had had a few runs where it's like oh yeah this is what their offense looked like for the first 13 14 weeks of the season yes and no he his deep ball his deep ball was bad today which yeah yeah did not look but I also again I don't think as soon as you realize the Niners cannot pass the ball, it's like, why would you take any risks? Right, right.
He had a couple bad overthrows. But he also had that one Devontae Smith that he should have caught that hit him in his chest.
That's true, but even that was an underthrown. Yeah.
Like, that was basically just Devontae going up and making a play. Yeah, you've got to let your playmakers make plays.

But I'm not as worried about that.

Hertz, his deep ball has been amazing this year.

So one bad game isn't necessarily going to start.

Andy Reid versus Sirianni. I would put the check mark on Andy Reid's side on that one.

Yeah, sure.

So they get head coach and quarterback.

Sirianni's been coaching.

He's been flawless. He's going to do something so corny this week.
Oh, my God. He's the corniest guy ever.
You're in the Super Bowl. His game plan has been great every week.
And they just take care of business. 28 points.
Average margin of victory is 28 points over the first two games. Okay, so the last question I have on this game, it's the Roback question.
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My rollback question goes to someone in this room who has not talked yet. And it's for Henry Lockwood.
I said Brady. So Hank is in a pickle.
I don't know if everyone here has realized what he's facing now. So you hate the city of Philadelphia you hate Eagles fans you hate the Eagles you also now this is a nightmare matchup for you because the only person who's knocking on Brady's light and he's got a long way to go but the only person right now that you could make the argument like oh maybe in 10 years he years he could have, you know, four, five, six Super Bowls and the Chiefs could go on these runs is Patrick Mahomes.
You hate the Chiefs. You hate the Eagles.
You are completely stuck because if Philadelphia loses this Super Bowl, that's another one closer for Mahomes. and if Mahomes loses the Super Bowl your sworn enemy is the city of Philadelphia and Max

specifically another one closer for Mahomes. And if Mahomes loses the Super Bowl, your sworn enemies, the city of Philadelphia, and Max specifically, have won a Super Bowl.
This is a disaster for you. That's the rollback question.
Comment. It is.
It's a total disaster. He doesn't...
I said this right before you came in here, PFT, and I saved most of it for the show.

But I was like, oh, you're fucked. He's like, I'm fucked.
He knows he's fucked. You are fucked.
Yeah, I mean, this has probably been the least enjoyable season of rooting for sports I've ever experienced. If I wasn't doing this show and talking about it every day and this was the job, I probably wouldn't just not be paying attention to any of the storylines.
I would probably watch the game

but not

watch it the day of

let's turn this on for a couple minutes what about if mahomes wins another super bowl you can be like well the nfl obviously rigged it for patrick mahomes this year it was very clear no he's if mahomes was another super bowl he's he because super bowls are yeah. Yeah.
Which is why both situations are terrible.

You are – you need the Super Bowl canceled.

Yeah, I was thinking of what I'm going to root for, and I really –

Because the Bengals would have been so easy.

There's nothing.

Yeah, you would have been so easy to root for Joe Burrow.

It would have been so easy for you to just go all in on the Bengals.

Now, what is your choice?

You don't have a choice.

I think he has to root for Mahomes' ankle to act up

and for him to get taken out of the game, and then Chad Henney gets in and wins the Super Bowl. I don't think that would matter, though.
Yeah. People would still be like, Mahomes won that Super Bowl because he got him there.
Yeah. Did they say Nick Foles won that Super Bowl or did they say Carson Wentz won that Super Bowl? No, but he didn't play all the playoffs.
True. It's truly like in the short term, I probably would rather the Chiefs win just because Eagles fans are insufferable and Macs would be insufferable if they won.
And just watching that. 22-1, which I know you're not rooting for me.
I know you're not rooting for me. That doesn't really matter.
Congrats, I'm rooting for you, and I know you're not rooting for me. Well, I just wasn't going to say congrats to Max.
But I know you're not rooting for me.

Cowboys, great value.

Great value.

Great value.

Great value.

But in the long term, the Mahomes thing will be hanging over too,

so I really don't know.

You're so screwed.

I'm going to have to think about it, and there's not a lot to think about.

You're so screwed.

It's just bringing me so much joy.

What if you just didn't watch the Super Bowl, Hank? I could, you know, I easily could if I didn't have to. What about merch sales? Company man.
Yeah, company man, Eagles. I put like it's just at what cost.
Oh my God, this is, you are really in a spot. You need to just pray that they somehow like, I know what

Hank's going to do. He's going to be like Saints fans

in whatever

it was, 2017. He's going to hope

for like the next week that the refs

call them back out on the field and like,

no, no, the Bengals, that was wrong

what we did. We had to replay the end of this

game. Yeah, I think

PFT is probably the closest.

I'll probably just rock the Roger Goodell clown tee all week. That's what I'm...
Back to Old Faithful. Yeah.
But then once one of these teams wins, oh my God. That's the thing.
I will say this now because I haven't made a decision, but I don't want the Eagles to win at all, and I specifically don't want Max to win. I would feel bad if you lost.
i'm not gonna hedge so like that that that there is two very very different things where it's like i would be reveling in max's demise i would not be reveling in your demise but i would kind of have you cut you would you would like you know i mean that's exciting wouldn't there be something magical about the fact that philadelphia could start off like they would have three their last three championships that they've been in, they've lost in the same calendar year, and you could just hope for the 76ers to make the NBA Finals, to have them lose in the championships? Well, they would be the Celtics to get there. So that would be...
And they're playing good ball right now. Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah. Yeah, I think I'm really...
I mean, this is what you're getting. I think it's the Chiefs

you had a run

it's really short term long term

because short term is definitely the Chiefs

but long term

that could be a disaster

10 years from now you'll be counting home strings

and you'll be like fuck that second one

I really shouldn't have rooted for him there

damn

it could be all your fault

it's a beautiful sports conundrum

that you've got yourself in here

Thank you. I really shouldn't have rooted for him there.
Damn. It could be all your fault.
This is just a beautiful sports conundrum that you've got yourself in here. I think he's going to end up rooting for the Chiefs.
I think he's going to end up rooting for the Chiefs. He's going to root for the Chiefs.
I didn't want to look at the X. You can always say Patrick Mahomes is probably not going to win six Super Bowls.
Correct. We're only a third of the way there if he wins this one.
Plus, he's got Joe Burrow to deal with, who is Tom Brady.

And Josh. As we discussed earlier.

And Josh to go through every year.

So you can be like, you can make a bargain and say,

I'll allow you to have the second Super Bowl.

It's probably not going to get you all the way there,

and it would still make my most bitter enemies in pain.

I honestly probably won't bet on a team just because I don't.

Because it's a double loser.

That's the worst.

It's a lose-lose no matter what. This is so good.
So I don't want to have a double loser in my hand deal with this because you wanted so badly to the eat for the eat I do believe in like deep down you wanted the Eagles to make it to the Super Bowl just for them to lose in the Super Bowl and now them losing in the Super Bowl hurt you just as much man no I mean. That's not true.
The Eagles losing at home to a rookie quarterback. Yeah.
Oh, so you were rooting against the Eagles. So you didn't bet the Eagles alternate spread today? No, I did.
Oh, you did? Yeah. Yeah? What were the alternate spreads? I tweeted minus 13.5.
Oh, okay. Plus 320.
Oh, nice. Easy cash.
Easy. Easy cash.

But if they had lost, they should have challenged that first touchdown.

But that would have been great.

That would have been better than losing the Super Bowl at home.

Oh, man.

But whatever.

Real shame.

Didn't happen.

Real shame.

Didn't even come close to happening.

Well, you've got to feel bad.

The 49ers never had a chance. They're never going to know.
Oh, you're going to see so many Eagles fans in Scottsdale. It's going to be the best.
Oh, they're going to be on your ass. You might get jumped.
This isn't about me. I don't know what I have to do.
Listen, if I see you getting jumped, I might jump in on the Eagles fans. I'm just there for work.
I'm just there for work trying to do my job. I don't know why this has anything to do with me.
22 to 1 kid just coming over the top rope with a bottle right to Hank's hand. I'd be like Bosa.
Yeah. No, but I'm going to be like.
Oh, you'll be triggered all week. It's going to be a great week of content.
You're going to be triggered all week. Yeah.
I think you just got to go full on like you've got to become an Eagles fan for this week. Yeah.
That's what you got to do, Hank. No.
But that's the only way to get back at him. It really is.
You're in a no-win situation for sure, but if you become... I'm just going for work.
If you become Mr. Philly, if you become...
It's too late for that. Too late for that.
Way too late for that. Yeah, way too late for that., way too late for that.
You said some shit. And they deserve every second of it.
See what they did to poor Joey? Poor Joey. Just trying to go watch his brother.
Yeah, so I mean. I was hoping that they were going to dismantle the Skycam when the wire hit that punt.
Just rip that shit down and treat it like Hitchbot. Whatever, I'm not even going to say it.
What? Say it. They're in the streets like they won the Super Bowl.
It's the fucking NFC Championship. Act like you've been there before.
We have, and we did it last time too, and then we just did it again when we won the Super Bowl. I think Philly just likes to party.
Yeah. Yeah.
They just, I mean, don't, you can't tell Philadelphia not to grease up their lamp bowls. It's a tradition, Hank.
Yeah, just act, you know. They've got all the best traditions in Philadelphia.
They turn dumpsters into hot tubs, they run into pillars on their train stations, and they grease up their light poles. That city knows how to fucking throw a jam.
Partying on the street after the Eagles won, well, both, after they beat the Vikings in 17 and won the Super Bowl are the two best nights of my life. Like, it is, it's unbelievable.
I actually – yeah, I think it hit me. I'm rooting for the Chiefs to win in a similar game where the refs absolutely screw over the Eagles because then I can just be like, oh, that was crazy.
And you can call them a fraud for winning that second ring. And it would just get Eagles fans so triggered because it would be like, oh, they should have won.
Like, they basically won, but the refs. Yeah.

I think that's it.

All right.

We'll see.

By the way, we now have alternate angles on the hit out of bounds where their feet collide, and that's why Mahomes tripped.

So now people are saying if their feet don't collide,

then Mahomes might not trip, and they don't call that.

Max Holman tweeted, by the way.

I believe we call that cope. Yeah.
Out of the blue. Just said, congrats to Batgirl.
Yeah. No tag.
Nice. No tag? No tag.
That's fine. No, that's fine.
That's fine. I don't need a tag.
Yeah. I don't need a tag.
Okay. I mean, we're going to have two weeks to break down this matchup.
We're going to get into deep numbers on this one. I think the Eagles are going to win this game.
As I'm sitting here right now. I'm going to dive into the deep numbers over the next two days.
I'm going to come back with a guaranteed winner. I like that.
Guaranteed winner. What's the line at right now? It's because it moves around a lot.
It kept ticking back. Eagles minus 2.5, 49.5.
Okay. Seems like it's sticking there.
Yeah. No one believes in Patrick Mahomes.
Hunger dog. Yeah.
Okay. Let's get to our interview with Eli Manning, then we'll finish up with who's back the week after.
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I don't know if you have the shirt underneath. We're all on the same team.
Oh, no. We're more prepared than you, Eli.
Wait, what team are you even on, Eli? Oh, yeah, we're the egg hunting squad. Same.
So it's an awesome campaign, the children's place, spring 2023 campaign. What are you going to do? Are we just going to find some Easter eggs? What are, where are we doing this? Let's, let's, let's get it going.
Yeah. Yeah.
We got some Easter eggs. We got some football.
We got Sean O'Hara in there, Justin Tuck, Emmanuel Sanders, um, um, Brian Westbrook. So all of them are in it.
They're families. I give a big pep talk, get everybody fired up to go.
And so it's, it's a lot of fun. It's obviously, you know, I think all Easter egg hunts are complete chaos and you throw a football game kind of during the Easter egg hunt with kids.
So it's, that's what got me excited about this campaign and doing it. It's just, you know, doing something, a commercial with my kids, I'd never done before, but also with some of my great pals and the Tucks and the O'Harris and their kids and families.
So we grew up going to training camps and being around each other and also a brand that, you know, like the Children's Place. Our kids wear their clothes.
They do a great job. The matching outfit, like all my son wants to do is wear a matching outfit with dad.
Like, What's dad wearing? I want to wear what he's wearing. Now we can do it.
Unfortunately, now I have to wear full pajamas every night so we can match as we go to bed so I can get them to go to sleep. But we're working through that.
It sounds like a good organization to be working with. It takes a lot for Big Cat and I to put on collared shirts.
So this is the ultimate show of respect. We're wearing something besides elastic for you.
Yeah. It's respect to you.
I think you like a little stretch. You like a little stretch.
Yeah. I appreciate it, guys.
It's good stuff. Y'all look good.
Y'all look sharp. Thank you.
Yeah. So it's great to see you.
We saw you on the sideline. So we're taping this Thursday.
We're going to have to ask you your championship picks because we're going to air it Monday. So if you're wrong, no pressure.
But yeah, we'll see if you know ball. But we did see you Saturday night at the game, Giants-Eagles.
And I thought to myself, we work in an office with a bunch of Giants fans. Do you feel a little bad sometimes what you've done to the psyche of Giants fans?

Because every time the Giants get in the playoffs, they're like,

we're winning the Super Bowl because Eli did it.

They were walking around the office being like, it's just like 07 and 11.

Like you can see the similarities.

Like Eli's fifth year when he won it and Daniel Jones.

So do you feel like you've kind of – like you maybe have raised the expectations a little too much every time the Giants get to the playoffs. Yeah.
They're like, hey, this is going to be easy. We've been through this.
We've done this before. It's exactly the same.
It's like Daniel Jones and everything going on. But I think everybody's feeling good.
Everybody's feeling real good. good that's the way football works you're feeling great until you don't anymore and that's playoff football and so obviously it was a big win um the week before misoda and and getting that one but they just they ran into a philly a philly team that's playing really good football they're they're good at home jalen hurts you know seems to be back and healthy and and they're just they're good on offense they're good on defense they got a great roster and coaching staff so uh unfortunately just kind of hit them hit them at the wrong time yeah so so we can ask it to you this way because we are going to air it on monday um would you like to just say the matchups like okay the bangles won and it's going to be bangles against the eagles and then we'll say okay it's going to be the 49ers against the bay that way we have all the bases covered and you won't look dumb.
Yeah. We, okay, the Bengals won and it's going to be Bengals against the Eagles.
And then we'll say, okay, it's going to be the 49ers against the Bay. That way we have all the bases covered and you won't look dumb.
Yeah, we can cut out the ones that you're wrong about and then we can just leave the ones you got. Perfect.
Yeah, that sounds great. No, I think it'll definitely be the 49ers and the Bengals.
I think they're playing the best football, and that would be a great matchup. Two teams that have had a great run, they've been good for most of the season.
They've kind of been through some stuff, especially the 49ers with some injuries and losing guys and multiple quarterbacks, but they just continue to win, and McCaffrey in the mix be great. Now is that is that like a little Philadelphia hate that you have simmering because it does feel like in your post career you and your brother Peyton you guys have pretty much like unanimous approval rating everyone likes watching you guys you guys are genuinely funny you're having fun you make sports fun but I would imagine Philadelphia still hates your guts maybe New England as well but so are you is that the one spot where you're like look I could do this media career forever but I don't care if Philadelphia likes me I hate them they hate me we're on the same page yeah I mean there's there is a respect and again I think Philadelphia is playing they're playing really good football good football.
A lot of respect for Jalen Hurts. He came on the show.
He's playing unbelievable. A.J.
Brown, Ole Miss guy. Miles Sanders has played great.
They're offensive linemen. You go through the whole roster, there's not much of a weakness on that roster.
But I just think – I think San Francisco's defense is, is really special. And I think, you know, they, and they just got some firepower on offense and, and Purdy's playing great football.
So I just think they, they have that, you know, have that ability to, to, to win some games. And it's kind of the same way as, you know, with Cincinnati, it's really about, it's about Joe Burrow.
I think he's playing great in the way they won last week,

being able to run the ball.

So you get that mix and being able to run the ball a little bit,

and you get a Patrick Mahomes that's not 100%.

And Cincinnati's had some success against them.

I think it gives them an edge.

You've played through some pretty significant injuries before.

I don't know if you've ever played through a high ankle sprain or if an injury like that has ever limited your considerable mobility. You're kind of a speed freak back there.
But in your experience with a high ankle sprain, I've heard that it's very serious if you're a running back, if you're a wide receiver, if you're shifting direction a lot. If you're a quarterback, you can make it work.
But when you're Patrick

Mahomes, he likes to move around a little bit back there. From your perspective, would he be

the type of quarterback that could make it work, given the fact that he's got a pretty significant

injury? Well, I mean, if anyone can make it work is Patrick Mahomes. But I've had a high ankle

sprain. I got one the last game of the season.
One year, we didn't make the playoffs. And so

Thank you. I've had a high ankle sprain.
I got one the last game of the season. One year we didn't make the playoffs.
And so it would have been like, if I would have ever had to miss a game because of an injury, if this would have happened the second and last game, there would have been a chance. This would have been the strongest possibility.
Eventuallyed up eventually having to have a little surgery on my ankle over it. It was maybe a little bit more than just a high-angle sprain.
But it is painful. It is sore.
And, you know, Patrick Mahomes, he obviously has the ability just to hang in the pocket and be successful and just stay in there and can move around a little bit and make plays, but it can limit him a little bit on, on that, you know,

the unbelievable plays he makes when he does get outside the pocket and extend those plays, whether he runs or, or,

or has a little flicks for touchdowns.

So I think it's definitely going to have some sort of impact on,

on his on what he can do.

And now he can still be extremely successful from staying inside the pocket.

But it's going to change things a little bit.

That was a bad job on my part because, again,

I forgot that we're time traveling and that this is on Monday.

And so Patrick Mahomes is going to go out and throw for like six touchdowns

and run for 80 yards.

We're all going to look dumb. Sorry.
Eli eli when's the last time you talked to tom brady uh the last time i'm trying um i don't know when's the last time i talked to tom brady would have been um uh it would have been like maybe uh april or march or april of last year kind of not not, not too far after he had retired, and he was retired at the time before he had come back. Okay, so follow-up question.
Do you think maybe you should reach out to him and be like, hey, listen, man, we watched that Monday night football game against the Cowboys. There's an easier way to do this.
You don't have to throw the ball into the dirt and look like, you know, you're scared for the rush. You could just self-sack like I did my last year.
Like, just go down, you know, because you were the king of that. Like, you know, at the end of your career, like, hey, I don't want to get hit.
Just go down. No, I don't.
I think he's doing – I think he's doing fine. I think every quarterback – I don't know, every quarterback.
Every quarterback that's not mobile has kind of learned the hey this i'm in a bad situation nothing i can do uh you know you've lost the ability to scramble some and so you just you avoid the the big hit you avoid this the fumble this you know the sack fumble and all that so you just gotta um you know kind of a abort and you know move on to the next play and see if you can make up for it okay so talking about age I have a rule uh a dumb sports rule that I've I've had for a long time that I think would make college football a lot of fun and it is and I I saw your video which the Chad Powers video which was very funny um and the rule is that every school gets to have at least one alumni on the team every single year, no matter eligibility or anything. So you retire from the Giants, you can go play for Ole Miss.
The question is, and after watching that Chad Powers video, do you think that if you played in college football this upcoming year, would you have like a better than average season? Would you be able to – just being able to like understand how defenses work better than anyone, obviously your arm is still good. What would Eli Manning's stat line be if he played for Ole Miss this season? Yeah, I think if I can make it through the season, it's been three years, so I'm not really excited about getting hit.
I think that's when you know it's time to retire and you made the right decision. Retiring is when you watch a football game and you see some of the hits, and you're like, oh, that looks painful.
That looks like, oh, that looks like that would really hurt. I do not want to be in that situation anymore.
So it's just the hitting. When I was playing, it's like you just didn't even see the hits.
You didn't think about it. You're like, oh, that's not bad.
He should get up. That guy's being a wimp.
Now it's like every hit, you're amazed that people could get up after it. And that's when you know it's time to be done.
But I think I could, yeah, in college,

I could go in there and still be pretty successful.

I wouldn't have to run.

The rush of the defense line is not as bad.

You could really get to a lot of good plays and with your checks and this knowledge.

So I think I could go out there

and have a pretty successful year in college.

Yeah, I mean, if that was available to you after you retired for the Giants, and especially now with NIL, if Ole Miss, you know, a couple boosters got together and like, Eli, let's do one last run. One last run? Yeah, like 40 mil to play for Ole Miss for one season.
I'm in. That's pretty good.
I mean, imagine that. Go back to college? Do I do it fast? yeah i gotta go like to the bars and stuff and hang out yeah imagine that quarterback room it would be all chad it would be chad powers chad kelly yeah yeah you and swag finally teamed up together let's go how great would that be um we we do love the manning cast we watch it uh almost every time it's on a monday night game it's the first one that I always check in on.
And it's been refreshing to watch you and Peyton on there. You guys do a good job.
You feature a lot of very funny tweets on there. And maybe one thing you could add in the future that I think a lot of people would appreciate is if you were allowed to cuss on there.
I know Marshawn's dropped some F-bombs. I know you did the double birds, one of these, but I think that there should be like an all profanity allowed version of the Manning cast.
Is that something that you can talk to ESPN about? Oh, I mean, I don't think ESPN is going to go for it. It's kind of part of the Disney kind of the family friendly idea.
We've had, you know, a few Peyton's cursed a few times. It's a pretty good deal if anybody curses Peyton has to apologize which I enjoy so I encourage I tell the guys yeah go ahead say a few Peyton Peyton you know we'll make it all all fine at the end so it uh but I don't think we want to get too too filled up with uh with curse words I think the occasional one kind of makes it makes it fun yeah like i like the occasional what doesn't have to be like rated r but maybe like a solid a solid pg-13 would be good 13 yeah we can maybe work we can work with that i've noticed that he gets he gets absolutely disgusted with clock management when you guys are watching those games there's nothing that'll make him more sick than like nathaniel that's his pet peeve pet peeve Pet peeve.
Bad clock management, not taking timeouts. When, you know, when the Broncos, when he called 77 timeouts, he's like, I think I should take a timeout.
Timeout. I'm not.
He's like, he kept doing it. He just, you could jump in there, call a timeout.
Does that irritate you? Or do you have your own pet peeve that you, you can't stand when coaches mess up? I think I see it. I see it.
I just don't react quite the same way that he does. He has to stand up.
He starts biting the football. He gets very jittery.
I think it's like watching your kid in a sporting event and you want to help him so bad that you just don't know what to do. And I think that's how he feels anytime he watches an offense and they're not managing the clock well and not taking a timeout or not spiking.
It's just like, what are you doing? If I were in there, I need to be in there and I need to handle this because I could do it much better than what they're doing. Yeah.
So speaking of the Manning cast, you've had a lot of great guests. Has there been anyone you've been starstruck by?

Because I remember I found an old story that you said the only time you've ever been starstruck is Kevin Federline.

You asked him for a picture.

Is that still the case?

Is it still K-Fed is the only one that you had a lump in your throat to ask for a picture?

Yeah, that was my picture.

That's why I had to get one with K-Fed, you know, at the time.

And so, yeah, no starstruck.

I mean, that was my picture. That's why I had to get one with K-Fed, you know, at the time.
And so, yeah, no star struck.

I mean, I was probably the most nervous around Barack Obama, you know, a president.

You're interviewing a president.

I should not ever be interviewing a former president of the United States.

That shouldn't happen.

But he was awesome, super friendly and outgoing and obviously loves sports and football.

I'm sorry. you know, former president of the United States, that shouldn't happen.
But he was awesome, super friendly and outgoing and obviously loves sports and football. So it's fun to see the passion of these people, whether it's Snoop Dogg and him talking about the Steelers or kind of Lisa Rice and her passion for the Browns.
Like it really comes out. And that's awesome to see.
And so, you know, I look forward to, and, and some of like, I didn't, you don't know, you don't know, you know, I didn't know there had such a passion for some of these teams and to hear their stories and some of their favorite players from when they were growing up is, is really neat. Yeah.
We're team Eli, or at least I am. I think, I think you're way better on television than Peyton.
You look better too. You've got the youthful glow about you.
That doesn't take much. Thank you.
You're smarter. You've got a better head of hair.
Yeah, you've got it all. True, true.
How's your golf game right now? I mean, it's tough. I'm in the winter.
I mean, every weekend I'm at hockey practice and hockey games every Saturday and Sunday. So there's not a whole lot of golf being played around New Jersey right now.
So I'd say the golf game is it's in question right now. So, you know, hopefully get some, get some golf kind of in the spring and get back, get back going.
I think I'm a, I think I'm a seven or eight handicap right now. So I have a funny random story, but what, what's your best score at shinnecock uh my best score at shinnecock um i think i broke i think i broke 80 there maybe a 77 you know just but you know barely 78 79 mine was 72 um that's neither here nor there but uh and i'm not gonna i'm not gonna dox this person because he's a private citizen, but I played, I was lucky enough to play Shinnecock with a friend of yours who looks identical to you.
Okay. You know who I'm talking about.
And it is weird that you've won, like, club tournaments with him too. You just go around.
Eli has a doppelganger, and he's a very good golfer, and Eli teamed up with him, and he just goes around winning club tournaments around the New York, New Jersey area with Eli's doppelganger.

It's crazy.

Yeah, it freaks people out.

It's not that we're playing better than everybody.

They don't know who is who.

We get accused of cheating.

It's like, wait, did Eli hit that shot?

No, that was my pal.

He hit that.

They think we're switching in the middle of the round,

and so we definitely look alike. We wear matching outfits for all our tournaments and it just it just kind of it takes a little everybody a little time to get used to it and by that time we got a little lead and we can hold on to it yeah it's it's a great ruse to just be like you see two elis and they're both very good at golf that would irritate me so much if I spent the entire week getting mentally prepared to take on Eli Manning and then it just gets doubled at the last minute.
It gets doubled. Exactly.
We kind of say the same things. We talk in the same accent.
Yeah, exactly. It's very smart.
I should have said this when, you know, me and Biket are team Eli when it comes to Eli versus Peyton, but we just had Julian Edelman on

the show, and I know he's been on the Manning cast, and he reminded us we should actually

be, we think your mom doesn't get enough shine.

We think people talk too much.

Well, I mean, your dad, obviously, great career, but you won a Super Bowl.

Peyton won a Super Bowl.

Your dad didn't win a Super Bowl.

Where do you think those championship genes came from?

Your mom's side.

No doubt.

She was a hoops player. That's where we get the hype from.
She's six foot, had a little hook shot. She was unstoppable in basketball.
So that's where we get, that's where we get our vision. Just seeing the court, you know, and, and you know, my mom, my mom was the best.
She was our ultimate fan and supporter. She didn't care if we won or lost.

She just had a cold beer for us and a hug after every game.

And so, and she's, bless her heart, she's had to watch more football games

and Little League baseball and basketball games than any, you know,

lady should ever have to do.

And, but so she's, she's, she's the best.

I'm the baby.

My mom and I are very close.

I talked to her, you know,

I feel like every day, maybe every other day. Might miss a few in there.
But she's, you know, if it weren't for her, I think Tom Brady would probably have at least 11 or 12 Super Bowls. Yeah.
Right. True.
That's what I'm saying. Like, she doesn't enough credit.
I think we need to start the conversation to change that. You, you mentioned the cold beers after a game.
I heard that. I think the story came out right after you retired, because when you were playing, you didn't really have a lot of stories about what you were like as a locker room guy that came out until after you stepped away from the game.
And then all of a sudden people were like, yeah, Eli would just pack a six pack of beer on the back of the bus after every game and just pass it out and just, just drink beer with the boys on the way back from the games. Is that something, was that a true story? Did you used to do that every single time? Yeah.
For all the away games, you know, I think I can, I can talk about it now. I don't think it's quite street legal.
We got to keep it on the DL. But, you know, I just kind of had a relationship with some of the locker room attendants at the away stadiums.
I kind of had the NFC locked down. Peyton had the AFC locked down.
So no matter where you were, you know, you kind of go sign a few autographs, gives give a tip and i might have a 12 pack for you that you can go in the back and you know hand out to my offensive linemen and the guys who sat back there so i think after after just a long week a lot of preparation uh just being dialed in go go compete your tail off for for three hours in a game um you know it's a pretty good feeling just to, you know, have one or two cold beers with your pals and the guys you just, you know, competed with. And that was kind of my gift to them.
Especially the offensive linemen, they earned it. They worked for it.
They needed it. You know, it kind of helped with some of that soreness and just be able to relax for a few minutes on the way home.
All right. So I have a couple more questions.
Uh, we're wearing these outfits and Eli's got his shirt on for the children's place, which is incredible, incredible initiative they're doing. So, uh, the Easter egg hunt is going to be awesome.
The 2023 campaign is going to be great. He's got a bunch of his friends, uh, doing it with him.
It's going to be a great, great thing. So get excited for that.
So Eli, my second last question, Arch at Texas, you were great at blocking out the noise in your career in a big media market as an uncle. Is it going to be a little difficult to block out the noise that you hear on his behalf? and what I'm really leading to is I think it'd be a great story if you and Peyton maybe started some burner accounts and started defending him online.
That would just blow up the Internet. If Peyton and Eli had a bunch of burner accounts just getting in the comments section, being like, you guys don't know ball.
He's playing well. What's the strategy here, knowing it's a little different than you?

It's your nephew.

Yeah, I think we've put enough pressure on this kid just by what we've done and Peyton and I and our careers and just everyone assuming that, you know,

he's just sort of following our footsteps and making it to the NFL

and have an unbelievable college career.

So I think the more we can just, you know, let him, let him be, let him try to figure this thing out. Let him be a college student for a year.
I mean, he's already enrolled. He's in Austin right now, working out with the team.
So he's, he's, he's working, working hard, trying to learn what he needs to do to get better and get on the field. And, you know, but for me, it's just I'm excited for him.
I'm excited for him to be in college. I mean, it's such a great experience to go play college football.
You know, the pals he'll make, the friends, the great games he'll be a part of. I just I look forward to watching him.
And if I can ever be a resource for him and help him out in any way, I want him know that but I don't want to ever make anything more difficult for him to have to answer a question about something I said about him so I'm 100 100 100 you know support and just want him to do well and have fun okay so I didn't hear an outright no no no no no no come on, well, I didn't hear it for Peyton. All right.
I'll do it. I'll defend him.
I'll create some burner accounts. We'll create him.
I'll be a dog. I'm a junkyard dog on the internet.
I'll create a burner account that says, like, totally not Eli. Yeah.
Totally not Arch's uncle. Definitely not Eli.
And just start attacking people. I did think it was a nice touch how it was just a coincidence how when he paid his official visit to Ole Miss, they spray painted the end zone Manning for you.
That wasn't for him at all, right? That was just 100% for you. It just happened to be for me.
Exactly. Perfect timing.
All right, so my last question, it's actually a guest question. So Eli's doing great work with the children's place.
It's awesome. Everyone check it out.
The Easter egg hunt is going to be a great initiative. I thought let's do something good here.
Tommy, who works with us, is a diehard Giants fan. I asked him actually on Saturday, Eli.
I said to him, where does Eli rank in terms of most important people in your life? And he said, Eli Manning's number one. His parents are number two.
So I wanted Tommy to be able to ask you a question. So Tommy is here.
He's going to ask you. He's a diehard Giants fan.
You are the most important person in his life. I thought we would do that for him.
So Tommy, go ahead. What's up, Tommy? First of all, thank you for everything.
My question is just, there's a story of you and Yogi Berra. you sang new york new york together at an italian restaurant in new york city which is like fan fiction porn to like a yankee giant fan i want to know if you have any other stories like that of you and other new york athletes just hanging out and just like being awesome and cool in new york city and getting like a really cool perk that would just make all of us feel really happy.
Um, I'm trying to think, I don't know if I have any other, um, you know, cool, cool ones. You know, I've hung out with, I think I'm a Derek Jeter a few times.
The first time I ever met, uh, Derek was after my rookie year and he invited me down to this golf event in, Tampa. And I'm down there, and, like, I'm – and so kind of a guy said, hey, come down.

You know, I was like, well, I want to come down.

I think I got to get down earlier on Sunday early morning

because Peyton's playing a playoff game.

He's like, yeah, come on down.

Like, we'll all be watching the game.

And so I kind of get there, like, hey, you know, like, just go into Derek's house.

They'll be watching the game. And, like, I go in there, and no one's there.
it's like silence I'm like we're all just watch the game and I'm just I watch the game by myself and then Derek comes out like got dressed and ready to go to his event that night and I like meet him for the first time I'm just in his house like hanging out watching the game like oh hey Derek I Derek, I've just been watching the game in your house. Thanks for letting me,

you know, be here. It was very, very awkward.
And he's like, why,

why are you here? Like who invited you? Are you, or, you know,

you said, do you know Wayne Gretzky and like Jordan and, you know,

Dave Winfield are all here. Like why are you at this event?

I don't think the guy who won one game in NFL deserves to be here.

And I was like, Oh, thanks. Thanks.
He was awesome. That's how I felt.
I did not deserve to be there. I felt very awkward about it, but that was my introduction to Jeter.
Yeah, that'll do it. Tommy's going to be dreaming about that for the rest of the day.
You made his wish. Everyone do check it out.
The Children's Place and Eli are doing an awesome awesome awesome campaign the easter egg hunt and a bunch of his friends we got it we're the we're the egg hunt team eli thank you so much always fun to have you on man thanks guys y'all look great keep up the color shirt if you need some more children's place clothes y'all can be matching they're big family matching so you're you should do that we'll take care of you we should just always match when we do this podcast. Yeah, we will.
We'll start doing that. And yeah, good luck on Shinnecock this year.
See if you can get a 72. Awesome.
I'll work on it. Good plan.
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Okay, let's wrap up.

Who's back of the week?

Hank?

I'm just so happy that you're so miserable.

My who's back of the week, though, did bring me some sports joy this weekend. Good.
A little light in an otherwise very dark weekend. LeBron, he's back crying, crying to the media.
Saturday night, one of the most entertaining games I think I've ever watched. Lakers-Celtics.
End of the game, Pat Bev, our co-worker, go listen to Pat Bev, show you how he did an instant reaction. He hit a huge three to take him up, and then he dunked.

Yeah.

For the first time since, like, 2019 or something.

Yeah, they put the stat on the screen.

It said, first dunk since 2019.

Yeah.

He had hops.

It was insane.

Like, the three was, like, kind of funny.

It was like, oh, Pat Bev.

Then I was like, oh, my God, Pat Bev's going to win this game.

This is going to be brutal.

I'm going to have to listen to that.

I'm going to have to listen to Rohn and then the fucking Eagles.

Well, you didn't know the Eagles had won at that point. Right.
And also the Chiefs had won. Right.
Game coming down to the last few seconds, LeBron gets the ball. Might have gotten fouled by Jason Tatum and then proceeded to throw.
The game was tied. It was going to overtime.
The armist part of the ball, right? Well, the same exact thing happened to Robert Williams two nights ago.

Oh, okay.

Reggie Miller was like, great block to end the game.

Reggie Miller's the worst.

Jake, actually, you know what?

We should reinstate the official call of the week and make it that no call against LeBron, that referee.

You got to let the boys play.

Yeah, let them figure it out on the court.

We have the vacated graphic ready to go.

Okay.

Yeah, no, vacated, vacated.

It's a mix of football and basketball. No, vacated, vacated.
But if – honorable mention to that, no call. Yeah.
Okay. LeBron proceeds to throw the biggest temper tantrum I've ever seen a player throw.
He literally was yelling, hitting his hand, fell to his knees, and then was doing like a downward dog crying on the ground for 20 minutes. Before overtime.
The game was tied, by the way.

They lost in overtime.

Russell Westbrook, it was so funny.

They were running the offense through Russell Westbrook.

He missed like three layups, a couple threes.

Lose the game and just, you know, obviously.

You forgot the funniest part.

Oh, Pat Bev.

Yeah. After the foul, Pat Bev, in between the regulation and overtime,

grabbed a camera, went up to the referee with a picture of the foul, showed it to the ref, got teed up, which is, you know, Pat Bev, obviously go listen to Pat Bev's show. They talked about it, but it was one of the funniest things I've ever seen a player do.
I was like, me and PFT were together. I was in tears laughing.
It was very funny. Of all, you know, LeBron, I would say he's had our number, especially in the garden for the last, I don't know, five or six years, maybe a little bit more.
So to have that image that will last forever. Every time he has a bad game, every time he's crying, they're going to resurface those images.
So to have that happen at the garden was a very, very nice Saturday night treat for me. It was one of those things.
We saw it. I was dying laughing real time.
Went home from the bar, watched it like ten more times times laughing. Woke up this morning.
Watched it a bunch more. It was just a great, great regular season, but Lakers-Celtics, it means more.
It was LeBron's temper tantrum. And he had a fair gripe because he was fouled on the last play.
Boy, you cried wolf. Holy shit.
That was him collapsing to the ground. I couldn't believe it.
When they're like huddling up, getting ready for overtime, and just staying there for, it was a solid 30 seconds. Yeah, I think that he was there for almost a full minute.
Yeah. Just like on the ground, hands and knees, crying, just weeping into the hardwood.
Just inconsolable. It was great.
It was very funny. It was a very enjoyable January NBA basketball.
Did you guys see the official comment from official NBA refs? Yes, I did see that. Like everyone else, referees make mistakes.
We made one at the end of last night's game, and that is gut-wrenching for us. This play will weigh heavily and cause sleepless nights as we strive to be the best referees we can be.
They should have started with America Let's Talk. They should have.
That would have been great. They should have had, like, just posted a picture of them at the time while they were tweeting it, because it's definitely Rich Paul with a gun to their head as they're sitting there.
LeBron James definitely hit up NBA officiating and was like, I need a public apology. I need people to know that you guys screwed that up.
And the Lakers need every win they can get, too. They're not.
Yeah, no. They're in a bad spot.
Although, actually, weirdly, the West is so wide open. I think they're only, like, two games out of the play-in game, which I'm starting to sour on the play-in game.
We can talk about that later. But, like, the Bulls, for instance, are just not good.
I don't want them losing a plate like they they basically the nba rigged it so that everyone has a chance so that everyone can stay invested but it's like no you really have a chance nobody really has a chance yeah you don't really have a chance like this is yeah they are right now two games out of the 10th seed and they're 23 and 27 yeah i mean the playing game the other probably funniest moment in the last couple years of the NBA was Pat Bev celebrating after they won the playing game. I guess that gives us those moments.
I mean, shout-out to Pat Bev. That truly.
He's the best. The dunk, it went from like, oh, this is funny, Pat Bev.
Shout-out to Pat Bev. And then it was like, oh, my God, we're going to lose to Pat Bev.
And then it was a great night. And then getting a technical foul called on you for bringing a camera onto the court to show a referee where he fucked up.

Well, those days, it's like, Leo, you see the memes.

That is going to last forever.

Every time there's any call with anything, it's going to be that picture.

And then LeBron doing the downward dog pose crying on the floor will last forever, too.

It was awesome.

It was incredible.

All right, PFT?

I got a couple who's backs, if that's cool. Don backs if that's cool.
My first who's back is Mike McCarthy. Mike McCarthy is back in a big way because they are moving on from Kellen Moore.
That's a nice way of saying they fired his ass. He's just the latest in a long series of Wonder Boys for the Dallas Cowboys that have been expected to inherit the head coaching position at some point that just end up sucking ass.
So Kellen Moore's gone and Mike McCarthy is saying that he's going to now take on play calling rules. So this is awesome.
If you know us as a fan of Mike McCarthy's lore, really, we just appreciate his background story. Big fat Mike.
He loves doing this. He loves switching up play calling duties as a way to like pass responsibility so he's going to go through the season he'll be like okay the problem was i wasn't invested enough in play calling so i'm going to call the plays and probably halfway through the season he'll be like you know what i realize i'm taking on too much so we're going to give somebody else the play calling due so i can focus on my job as a head coach more.
He did this in Green Bay all the time. Yeah, it's also just, it's the beginning of the end.
Because when you get this job they're basically saying, now you have to fucking do this and you're going to suck. It's shuffling the deck chairs on the Titanic.
If there's one thing Mike McCarthy does not need, it's another thing on his plate. My other who's back is the sons oh the sons are back because aj titties is back on twitter and she's pregnant she's pregnant as hell and so the speculation is okay is this devin bookers is this not excuse me pfts meme said pft meme said i can accurately report that I did not have sex relations with that woman, Miss Titties.
It was funny. You did want to go shoot a video with her at one point.
Yeah, I did. It would have been a very funny video.
On Thursday, PFT popped up out of his desk. He's like, oh, AJ Titties is back on Twitter.
I was like, oh, okay. Side note, can we talk about how you just don't have a desk chair and you just lie down on a cooler now Yeah I got my Yeti cooler there Because I'm a fucking I'm a man And so I just sit on my cooler That's stocked to the brim With soup and C4 That's like what men do In office environments Enjoy your little office chair With your ergonomic back design Mr.
CEO It's great I come down I'm like is P.T. there No And then I walk over He's like no he's there He's just lying on his back No there'll be times When I times when I'll be talking to him, and then I won't realize he left because he's usually laying down.
I've been dealing with some back issues recently and lying down horizontally on my Yeti cooler is the only way for me to feel comfortable at work sometimes. But no, yeah, a couple hundred people tagged me, and AJ Titty's thing was like, hey, she's back and she's pregnant.
Is it yours? Not mine. Not my type.
Sorry. But a butt guy but it might be can't get butt babies but it might be um all right my who's back is we already mentioned him but our friend max homa he won the fifth major the farmer's insurance open just the most max homa thing to do and he is actually becoming like an incredible golfer i think he's won the most tournaments in the last year and a half on tour.
36 months, I think. So he's legitimately a very, very good golfer.
The last 25 months, no one has more PGA Tour wins than him. Okay, so here's the thing.
We love Max. We love having him on the show.
We discovered Max. We discovered Max.
Yeah, he would be nothing without us. I do root for him very hard.
I bet on him a lot. But with that said, it is also our job because a lot of other...
I mean, Max is a podcast slut. He goes on any podcast and they'll all suck his dick.
We are the ones... We're like his true friends that will keep him honest.
So in order to keep him honest, uh, his hat tan sucked. So he took off his hat and it was just like Stewart sink level bad to, of course, Max homo won a tournament when the final round was on a Saturday.
Can't, he can't win on a Sunday. It's a Saturday and three, it was during football season.
So we all know, know this is when he wins tournaments, when we're all focused on football. And he's like, oh, let me sneak in this tournament win.
So that's my way of keeping him humble. Yeah, well, and also he probably wouldn't have been able to win if it was on a Sunday after the Lakers lost on Saturday.
That would have affected him way too much for him to even think about going on a golf course. So we're the ones who keep him, you know, we've got gotta keep his feet in the ground so that he can, I want him to win in Augusta.
When he wins in Augusta, I will say, I will tip my cap and be like Max, you're pretty good at this golf thing. You know what? I'm banning, I think we should ban Max Homo from the podcast until we can do an interview with him in person.
I think we are at Super Bowl Week. Yeah, I know, that was okay.
It was gonna be like a five-day ban we're not gonna run it for a while yeah all right so we're gonna ban max homo's voice yeah from appearing on this podcast for at least several weeks yes got it all right sorry tough love i am a little bit uncomfortable with how good max is getting at golf though i know it was a lot more fun when he sucked and we could just be like hey you're the funny guy on twitter you got a great personality you know And now he's hot. So it's left us in quite the conundrum.
Well, it's because the problem is he's now like he's kind of outgrown this shitty little podcast. And I don't say little, but like this shitty podcast, like where we don't know anything about sports and we don't know anything about golf especially.
And now that he's like actually good at golf, he he's gonna start hanging out with like really good golfers and shit it's like fuck man people that have their lives together yeah i saw that he did a life advice thing with uh ryan yeah word yeah and he was just basically like yeah you should just get better at golf and win some tournaments and that's my life advice but that didn't work yeah work for him fuck we got to keep him humble though yeah yeah that that tan on your head yeah also i'm not a fan of the beard yeah it looks a little perverted also hey dude if if i can get this thrown my way every time i'm on a gambling stream hey how about stop playing golf all weekend and be with your child oh there you go you know like what the, you're going to golf? You're not going to be with your kid at all? Yeah, or maybe get a real job, Max. I think his kid was at the 18th green.
Yeah, but was he paying attention to him? No. Yeah.
Okay. So, kid probably doesn't even know Max's name.
Yeah, he should save the wins until he's older, right? By the way, my son has learned my name, and it's a problem because he says it, and I'm like, fuck, dude. You can't do that.
Big? Big. No, but he was like, he was like, he was like, Dan, I want something.
I was like, what the fuck? What are you doing? This is not okay. So yeah, that's a disaster.
I don't think I've ever called my dad by his name. Yeah, it's very uncomfortable.
It's always Mr. Marlins.
But he knows it's a joke. So he giggles every time.
I'm like, God damn it, he's got me. He got me.
Billy. My who's back is Baker Mayfield's arrest footage.
It went viral again after Stetson Bennett got arrested for a drunken disorderly. And honestly, that made Stetson Bennett go up in my draft board.
Yeah, it's a tough break for Baker. He's like, he hasn't done shit.
He's like, wait a second, this guy got me to trend online? Yeah, I don't mind. If you're Stetson Bennett, what's stopping you from just getting absolutely hammered? He's in the middle of maybe the biggest case of senioritis of all time, and it's well-deserved.
He has lived his best college life. There's no way he's doing classes.
He's doing classes for a while. No.
He's taking classes for a while. I mean, he's 25.
He probably graduated six years ago. It was in Dallas, so I think there was probably some TCU fans involved.
Oh, you think he got set up? By the way, Billy, did you see DeMar Hamlin did a video proving that he's alive? Yes. So did that put everything to rest? I played the part, but I didn't actually believe it.
But for the sake, people are saying that the tattoos don't line up. Oh, the new tomorrow.
Okay, got it. Hologram technology.
Deep fakes exist. I couldn't help but notice that in the video that he put out, there were lots of cuts and edits.
So people are saying that the battery of the clone had to be changed that's why they had to do all those different shots of it yeah i do think tomorrow was going to do a video once the bill season ended but it did suck watching it being like i bet there was a small part that he had to do this because people were saying that he's actually dead oh yeah no for sure sucked yeah no his his manager definitely has to have a word with him it's like hey i know i know this is stupid but yeah some but some people think that you've Avril Lavined yourself. Yeah, the Billys of the world have made Damar Hamlin actually speak so that people are like, oh, he's not dead.
Well, how could Billy, as somebody who... I didn't actually think...
I know you don't. There's other things I totally believe in, but that was definitely thought.
You believe in way stupid stuff in this stuff. Yeah, yeah, no, yeah.
But if, okay, putting yourself into the mind of somebody that actually does believe that he's a clone, what could DeMar do or say for those people to acknowledge, okay, this might actually be legit him? I think he did. He's proved it.
But the tattoos. You're good.
The tattoos. But the tattoos didn't line up.
No, that's what people are taking. There's like an old video before he got a couple set of tattoos.
And they're like, the tattoos don't line up. You're not doing it.
Dude, I'm not doing it. You just know what the people are doing.
For some reason, this new For You page on Twitter pops up a ton more of conspiracy stuff for me. Yeah, because it's in your brain.
It has nothing to do with what you actually click on. This is like early days of Barstool when Google ads started ramping up.
And I remember there was a commenter one day who was like, anyone else getting dildo ads on Barstool?

And I was like, dude, that's because you've been searching for dildos.

That's what's happening here.

There was a dude that did that.

He's like, Google is now messing with masculinity in America because it keeps serving me ads for these gay cruises. Yeah.
Dude. Okay.
All right. So, Billy, he's alive.
Yes. And also, who's back? I'd just like to give a thank you to Max, Evan, and Memes.
The video hit 100K. Hell yes.
I watched it. It was great.
It was actually legitimately a very good job for all of you. Billy, everyone who edited it, I was very proud of you.
Oh, thank you. Yeah.
I'm honestly just very thankful because these guys made it look amazing. Billy, you're learning.
I'm just saying. You're growing.
I watched it. I was like, this is awesome.
So what are you going to get them? Are you going to get them a present or something? Yeah. I mean, they deserve a bonus.
They do. So what are you going to get them? We're going to figure them a present or something? Yeah I mean they deserve a bonus They do So what are you going to get them? We're going to figure that out We're going to the Bahamas That's what we're doing What? We're going to the Bahamas Okay Just for what? Hear me out boys Hear me out boys Wait Why are you going to the Bahamas? It's going to be cool Memes knows Memes get up here and say it He has an idea I want to hear it So So here's the idea.
Billy McFarlane from Fyre Fest wants to fight in Rough and Rowdy. Billy Football is interested in fighting Billy McFarlane potentially.
And I think our Billy would beat the shit out of Billy McFarlane. What is Bahamas coming in? I just panicked.
I just panicked.

Where's the Bahamas?

You didn't fill in the Bahamas?

We got to go investigate what really happened.

Oh, got it.

So Billy McFarlane.

We don't know.

The documentary we watched didn't tell us?

I need to hear how bad he is of a person

to convince me to beat his ass.

Billy McFarlane owes money to people in the Bahamas.

Got it.

Restitution.

Got it.

And so Billy, our Billy would be fighting

on behalf of the Bahamas.

So you're going to pay all these people with your winnings? Wow! Billy McFarland is! Billy, that's sick! So if you fight rough and rowdy you are giving all the people of the Bahamas that are owed money your purse. Billy Mc them? Nope.
So you're taking money. Nope.
That's tough. You're taking money from the people of the Bahamas.
No. I just sort of panicked my way into thinking of a gift to get these guys and just walk myself into a fight.
Yeah, you definitely weren't thinking about the Bahamas before this. I wasn't.
Yeah. Okay.
All right, Jake. If I was.
It was at the top of your mind for no other reason. This is where if Billy talks even more, he's going to get himself an even worse situation.
All right. You would kick his ass.
Jake. On my who's back, your guy, Big Cat Novak Djokovic.
Yes. He's done it again.
He won his 10th Australian Open. He is now tied with Rafa Nadal.
22 men's singles, Grand Slams. I mean, they kicked him out of Australia last year.
One year ago, deported. This year, champion.
That's crazy how much can change in a year. Our guys should have beat him in the quarterfinals or whatever.
Tommy Paul. In the semis.
He made the semis. Put up a great run.
He did. Did he play against long break points? Yeah, 7-5, 6-1, 6-2 over Tommy Paul.
Wait, say that again? 7-5, 6-1, 6-2. That's the go.
That's the go. Wait, when's the French Open? Because Rafa will get another one.
It's around Memorial Day Memorial Day early summer so we can chalk Rafa up for one more so he wins one more and he's the goat officially all you suckers well next is Roland Garros so it'll most likely be no Rafa's gonna win yeah Rafa's kinda old so then Wimbledon okay so we'll do it there can tie it up yeah And then US Open will be the determinant. God, what a year for my goats.
Yeah. Messy.
So, yeah, 10 Australian Opens. It's crazy.
Remember when you were a Ronaldo guy? Hank has not had a worse sports year. He picked up Ronaldo.
Every pick you've made has been bad. Yeah.
You're a Cowboys-Ronaldo fan. With a minor in the Vikings.
Oh, with a minor in the Vikings, yeah. I forgot about being a Minnesota fan.
I forgot about being a Minnesota fan. All right.
Let's do random number generator. I say this doesn't count towards the pot.
And it doesn't count towards Hank getting it. But but we got to do a number for the people.
I don't. That's fine.
Six. 17.
Meme's saying three. Evan, what do you got? 11.
Meme's going to pick three here. 72.
69. Max, what do you got? 20? 22.
22. That.
That would have sucked. So are we counting this in the...
No. Okay.
But we have to do it for the people. So vacant.
Yeah, it's vacant. Another vacant.
Yeah. We could do two.
You know what? We'll do two on Wednesday. We'll make two official on Wednesday.
Give Hank another shot. How many shots have you had at this point? We've been doing this for...
Like two or three hundred. I thought it was more than that.
I think it's statistically now Samu's getting it like 11 or 12 times. Wow.
No way. No, actually, Billy, I agree.
I agree with what Billy just said. No, seriously.
No, seriously, there's zero potential. It is.
It's like .99 to the whatever's power. Oh.
No. No, it is.
Billy's math checks out. No, it's not.
No, I've been checked. I've said it a bunch of times.
Someone on Twitter keeps saying it. I know that you've been checked.
There's no way. It's true.
Wait, say it again slowly. It's more likely that I would have gone in 11 times than zero.
Yeah. No.
Yeah, look it up. No.
You have a one in a hundred chance. Also, we forgot to say Tuesday is the bowling.
So everyone tune in. Oh.
All day. Shit.
10 a.m. Eastern? 10 a.m.
Eastern. Is it on the Barstool YouTube? Barstool.
Or part of my take YouTube. Part of my take YouTube.
Subscribe to it. All day.
We got a very special guest. It's going to be great.
A few special guests. Oh, Oh, yeah.
Well, we can say one of them. Stu's going to be there.
It's his birthday as well. PFT and Stu share a birthday.
So Tuesday, birthday week, coming up big. I've been pretending this wasn't happening.
Yeah, no, we know. We sat down and we're like Tuesday, and you're like, oh, I thought it was Thursday.
Billy's got to go to the Bahamas. He won't be able to make it.
Billy turned down an opportunity to practice with us last week. Oh, I mean, did we talk about this on Friday's show? Max bowled a zero? An actual zero? The lanes weren't waxed.
I heard the story. But he bowled a zero.
Here, Max. Like every roll, like 10 frames of zero.
You should be arrested for that. I was working on stuff.
I was just working on things. I wasn't bowling for scores, you know.
We'll be all right come Tuesday. That's a promise.
Okay, okay. Well, I mean, you can't get worse than a zero.
Love you guys. Coyotes have been getting increasingly larger in the Northeast due to the deer population.
Research koi dogs. Koi dogs.
You saw one. Max saw one.
You're huge. I'm talking away.
I don't know what to say. I'll say it anyway.
Today is another day to find you. Shine away.
I'll be coming for your love okay. Shine away.
I'll be coming for your love, okay? Shying away I'll be coming for your love, okay? Needless to say I've got a sentence But I'll be stumbling away Starting to learn and my life is okay Say after me It's better to be safe than sorry Say up to me It's so better to be safe than sorry Things that you say Is it a lot of fun? Just to play my first reason why You're all the things I've got to remember You're shying away Or I'll be coming for you anyway Be you shying away Or I'll be coming for you anyway Take on me Take on me Take on me I'll keep you on Take me off Take me off Take me out Take me up.

Take me up. I'll be you.