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Speaker 1 On today's part of my take, week two of the NFL season. It was a crazy Sunday.
We saw some insane comebacks, some stinkers, some good games. It was football.

Speaker 1 We're going to talk about every single game. We're going to break every single game down, including Sunday Night Football, Bears, Packers.
Bears are hanging on for their life, so you'll hear

Speaker 1 some live updates at the beginning of the show. We're going to do Boomers.
We're going to do Who's Back of the Week. We're going to do Football Guy of the Week.

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Speaker 1 Today is Monday, September 19th,

Speaker 1 week two.

Speaker 1 We start in Baltimore, where the game opened up with Devin Duvernay

Speaker 1 running like a racehorse for six. Lamarty Gras Jackson took the top off the defense and showed them some TDs.

Speaker 1 But in the words of my colleague Lee Corso, not so fast, my friend, as the Dolphins mounted a furious fourth quarter comeback. Bartender, Waddle Service, making a double.

Speaker 1 Ty Greek Hill was the hero, and that's not Satsiki sauce in your underwear dolphins fans You're just excited because your team is 2 and 0

Speaker 1 Dolphins 38 Ravens 35

Speaker 1 And another witching hour stunner Job Flacco has been tested by God as the Jets aren't just delivering migrant workers this week.

Speaker 1 They're also landing in Martha's Wynyard Nick Cage Chubb scored three touchdowns as he starred in a new movie the unbearable weight of massive talent wasted on a dog Shit franchise.

Speaker 1 It may be bracency bias, but this Jets team looks like they're in it for the long haul. Jets 31.
The Browns 30.

Speaker 1 In Duval where Trevor Lawrence Fishburne may tricks us into being good and Doug P.E. Dieterson had his team taking all the right pills.

Speaker 1 Speaking of pills, Matt Ryan Braun might want to consider getting a shipment to Peyton Manning's

Speaker 1 wife's house in Indianapolis because his three interceptions have Colts fans doing the unspeakable missing Carson Wentz.

Speaker 1 Speaking of missing, I miss my dear friend the Queen, or as I called her, Lizzie Bear. Rest in peace, my Majesty.
You're absolutely right, boom.

Speaker 1 If HGH is out of the question, it may be time for Matt Private Ryan to get saved from the evil Reich.

Speaker 1 Jaguars 24, Colts, Goose Egg, huh? Uh-huh. Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.

Speaker 1 And a matchup between two big coaches, Dancy Reagan Campbell, gobbled Ronald Reagan Rivera's D right up. Amon bra St.
Brown looked like C Cup as he dropped a fat bear in the Commander's end zone.

Speaker 1 The Rocket Arm Jared Karabas-Goff is playing so well he's going to get a bag. And he says he's happy.
But we know he's lying. The Detroit Lions might be good.
Huh?

Speaker 1 Huh? Huh?

Speaker 1 Lions 36, the Commanders 27.

Speaker 1 In the meadowlands, where Daniel Crohn said, let's get this bread, as the Giants are number 2-0. Matt Gruhl and Quaker Mayfield have Panthers fans demanding a little more flavor.

Speaker 1 Say Rich homie Kwan Barkley has Giants fans feeling some type of way. Restoring the glory of the 80s with a day ball of Coke and Lawrence Taylor highlights.
The G-Men take down the Kitty Cats 19-16.

Speaker 1 The G-Men are two and oh.

Speaker 1 Over a mile high, where they're calling him Nathaniel Straitjacket, because his brain still can't get out of its own way.

Speaker 1 Don't push the panic Sutton just yet, Broncos fans, as Cortland and Russ hooked up for over half the team's passing yards.

Speaker 1 The Broncos were in a low-speed chase with OJ, but this time Howard was brought down easily after only seven yards.

Speaker 1 Even though the Texans aren't very good, the Mills have eyes as this team isn't totally dead yet. Broncos, 16.
Texans, 9.

Speaker 1 Out in Las Vegas, where it was a tale of two halves, as the Cardinals looked like the Red Ring of Death in the first half, only to play Red Dead Redemption in the second, as Merck Davis had to watch his team get nerfed.

Speaker 1 Henry Ruggs isn't coming back from the gulag anytime soon.

Speaker 1 The game went to overtime, and Hunter Renfro Biden handled the ball like it was a laptop full of incriminating crack nudes, fumbling twice, the last one ending the game. And the

Speaker 1 Raiders get stunned by the Cardinals. 29-23.

Speaker 1 Down to Dallas. It's a bird.
It's a plane. It's Cooper Man as Cooper Rush Limbaugh used his right wing to attack Joe Biden Burrow.

Speaker 1 Micah Allen Parsons Project has his Cowboys defense playing serious ball. And Dorrance Lance Armstrong had double the sacks of his namesake.

Speaker 1 Mike Jenny McCarthy won't be singled out this week as Jerry Jones will surely be taking a trip to the Glory Hole. The Cowboys 20.
The bengals 17

Speaker 1 standing on a corner jameis winston down in nola such a fine sight to see

Speaker 1 it's a pick my lord another pick my lord another pick my lord that's three

Speaker 1 come on james thought you got lazy

Speaker 1 You better watch out, don't get your vertebra.

Speaker 1 The Saints don't go marching Bucks 20 Saints 10

Speaker 1 and that was week two

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Week two in the books.

Speaker 1 We are recording this. It is six minutes left in the Bears-Packers game.
I've gone through the range of emotions.

Speaker 1 I went from the Bears might win this game in the first quarter to holy shit, like let me crawl under a couch and die to maybe the Bears have a chance here to Matt Nagy just called a shotgun

Speaker 1 QB dive on the six-inch line. So his name is Matt Eberflues.
No, no, I know, I know, but Matt Nagy called

Speaker 1 that was a Matt Nagy play for six.

Speaker 1 That entire drive kind of gave Nagy vibes where it's just like, okay, we're going to run. We're going to kind of panic a little bit right now because we can't get a cohesive offense going.

Speaker 1 So we're going to try to run the read option all the way down the field and hope that they guess wrong at the merge point every single time, the mesh point. So,

Speaker 1 they did get down the field though, which is good news, and they pinned them deep. Yes, it was like a very long extended punt

Speaker 1 that got them down the field. I do want to point out, I saw this fly a little bit on the radar.
I think that the Sunday Night Football account tweeted out the video as well.

Speaker 1 On the earlier touchdown, Aaron Rodgers went into the end zone, and him and his teammates did an extended ayahuasca celebration

Speaker 1 where they poured tea and then pretended to pass out. Is that something that we should be celebrating? No, jail.
There's kids, there's youngsters out there that are watching on television.

Speaker 1 Last I checked, DMT is still a Schedule I narcotic, I think. Facts.
Are we going to have kids going into school tomorrow, asking their teachers if they can have ayahuasca for lunch?

Speaker 1 Mommy, daddy, I saw the bad man. He was trying to do drugs on national television.

Speaker 1 Instead of saying tomorrow morning, Lego my Ego, mom, they're going to say Lego my ego because they're going to have ego death. Yep.
And they're going to just run rampant.

Speaker 1 And next thing you know, our entire country's going to shit. I mean, it sounds like you finally are kind of waking up to what I've been preaching.

Speaker 1 Oh, God. And now here comes the embarrassment.
So Sammy Watkins just had like a 40-yard pass.

Speaker 1 Try not to do any pre-basing celebrations in the end zone this time, Aaron. Okay, so here's.

Speaker 1 This wasn't that embarrassing. I'm just going to say it.
It was bad, but it's been way worse. It would have been nice to get 14 points.
And you still might. It's been way worse.

Speaker 1 Listen, if you can get 14 points in any loss, you can talk yourself into anything and be like, you know, we had our options here and there.

Speaker 1 It would be exceptional to get 14 points because it scores 24-10 right now. Yes.
So if we found a way to get exactly 14, it would be awesome. It'd be awesome.
That's what I'm really hoping for.

Speaker 1 Now, on that play call when they get down to the like half-inch line,

Speaker 1 I hate that play call. Yeah.
I hate it. I think everyone hates it.
Why are you running shotgun if you're going to do a quarterback sneak?

Speaker 1 If you're going to do a quarterback sneak, put him like up the center's butthole at the time that it snapped.

Speaker 1 And if you're going to do shotgun, let him run, let him stretch the field and maybe have someone he could pass to. I'm just going to say this.
It was bad. It wasn't the worst.

Speaker 1 I'm

Speaker 1 thinking about all the times where it's been way worse. This was bad, not the worst.
I do have a little bit.

Speaker 1 Tell me if this is crazy, but a little bit of doubts.

Speaker 1 Do you know what Justin Fields'

Speaker 1 numbers are tonight? No, I don't. He's seven for nine, so he's only thrown it nine times.
It's bad weather, though. Daphne kills.

Speaker 1 You're going into big cat. You're going into Lambeau Stadium, the frozen tundra.
You're really thinking that you're going to air it out right now? The Bears are running a high school office.

Speaker 1 Just keep checking, see what the temperature is.

Speaker 1 There was supposed to be rain in the forecast, so maybe it just never showed up. Seven for nine, though.
Ah, that kind of hurts. I feel like seven for nine, 70 yards.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 Ideally, into the future, I don't know if you'd want your quarterback to try more. How cold is it? 77 degrees.
77 degrees.

Speaker 1 You can't air it out. You can't be expected to just go out there and play some newfangled Madden video game offense.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 The other spin zone I have is that Aaron Rodgers actually didn't beat the Bears tonight. It was Aaron Jones, who ran 14 times for 134 yards, which is pretty insane.

Speaker 1 I do think it's cool that Aaron Jones still keeps that vial of ashes of his dad around his neck. Yeah.
That's kind of cool.

Speaker 1 So every time he scores a touchdown, he brings out the chain and it's like, this one's for my dad. Yeah.
He's got it right there. It could be too many men on the field, some people would say.

Speaker 1 But I think it's, it's cool because I think he used to have it like, was it, didn't he keep it in a bag that was inside of his shoulder pads at one point? Something like that.

Speaker 1 And then he lost it and they made him transfer it into a piece of jewelry. Yeah.
That's kind of cool. It is cool.
And I'm just going to flush this one again.

Speaker 1 I know this is going to sound crazy because it's a nationally televised game. The Packers are going to win by probably three scores.
Justin Fields was seven for nine.

Speaker 1 It wasn't as embarrassing as I expected. I thought it was going to be far more embarrassing.

Speaker 1 There was a moment in the second quarter where it could have gotten truly out of hand, and the only thing that saved the Bears was a couple of fumbles by the Packers that helped slow the tide of what was happening.

Speaker 1 So I'm going to count this as a moral victory, which is pathetic.

Speaker 1 A first quarter victory, just a little stat for you, PFT. If you bet $10 million on the first quarter Bears' money line, you would have won $19 million.
Yes, I'm aware. Think about that.
$19 million.

Speaker 1 It's going to be weird for me to come tax season. That's open.
It was quite a hit. It was a good investment.
Yep. Here's another spin zone for you, big cat.

Speaker 1 So our teams, like, we don't put our egos, we don't tie those to our teams' win-loss records.

Speaker 1 We would never start out a show bragging about what our records are in football games where these guys don't even know that we exist.

Speaker 1 I care much more deeply about teams that I own are teams, our individuals that I root for on, I don't know, like an individual sport who might know us and might like us.

Speaker 1 So, like a sport like lacrosse, if we're invested in that, or watching a good friend play golf on television. Yeah.
That to me

Speaker 1 is really what should lead part of my take today. Personal relationships.
Yes, yes. With teams that we, you know, Aaron Rodgers can pretend that he owns the Bears.

Speaker 1 I haven't seen any tax filing say that he does. We own the Water Dogs.
Wait, do we have to file taxes for that?

Speaker 1 I don't know, actually. If you're listening to the Irish shit right now, you have to stop listening or else it's entrapment.

Speaker 1 If you win a championship, you don't have to do taxes. That's good.
That's a good rule. Yeah, that's a great rule.
They should have stand cronkey's swimming in that rule.

Speaker 1 They should actually make that rule, at least for baseball, so that some of the owners actually try. If you win a championship, it has to be a certain way.

Speaker 1 They should make it a rule, if your team only loses three games in the entire playoff run,

Speaker 1 you don't have to pay taxes. That sounds good.
Yeah, I'm sure people will like that. More rich people not paying taxes.
But yes, we'll talk about the Water Dogs. Billy was there.

Speaker 1 We're going to get to that at the end of the day or at the end of the episode. We'll talk about Max, who's on on Wednesday's show.

Speaker 1 Last thought, though, I really do think, and I say this from the bottom of my heart, Aaron Rodgers only having 228 passing yards. He's so washed.
That's the under. He sucks.
Like, that's it.

Speaker 1 That's it.

Speaker 1 That wasn't that impressive. So, win for the Bears.
But But yeah, same old, same old. We suck.
And the Packers own us. And the Bears probably aren't that good.
But they're frisky. They're frisky.

Speaker 1 Let's talk about some other games. And we'll see maybe if the Bears have a crazy comeback.
I'll react to it. Or at least maybe help us hit the over.
Yeah, I'm sad. I am sad.

Speaker 1 And I just, I did go into the game the first quarter had me being like, ooh, maybe, maybe.

Speaker 1 Same old, same old. There's really nothing that's changed.
And we still have stupid coaching decisions that I can get mad at. And same shit gets run every year.

Speaker 1 And we now have gone backwards in passing. Mitch Trubisky was like, by the end, was passing like 20 times a game.
Now we have a first-round quarterback that's passing nine times a game. It's great.

Speaker 1 It's not fun football. It's great.
The Bears should run the triple option. People would not be able to defend the triple option.
That's what you kind of tried to do in that last round. Yeah, I know.

Speaker 1 I mean, listen, the triple option, you can't tell me that teams would want to play the triple option in pro football. I don't know.
I'd be pissed off.

Speaker 1 If you just pull the, you do the thing that like Mike McDaniel is doing, where you just get the fastest people in the world on your team. Yes.
Just get sprinters on your team to run the triple option.

Speaker 1 Sprinters and one fullback. Oh, wow.

Speaker 1 They had a graphic right now. Notable former Bears counting against 2022 salary capital.
Like Andy Dalton, Nakeem Hicks, Khalil Mack, Mitch. Foles.
Foles. Yeah, Foles were playing forever.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Tariq Cohen. Yeah.
It's all right. It's a rebuilding year.
63 mil. It's a rebuilding year, Hank.
It's a rebuilding year. I'm okay.
At least I have the honesty to say that. So do I.

Speaker 1 Oh, I said it. Rebuilding?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Look, see, Aaron Rodgers can't even throw a touchdown pass, even though he has two tonight. All right, let's talk about the other games.
We had a crazy Sunday.

Speaker 1 Two games that a team that was down 20 points at halftime came back and won. And we're going to start, obviously, in chronological order.
But the Dolphins, 42, the Ravens, 38.

Speaker 1 This game was, it was a complete tale of two halves. It was Lamar Jackson's show in the first half.
He had 318 yards, three TDs, and a 79-yard touchdown run in the first half.

Speaker 1 It was like everyone on Twitter saying, Lamar's getting his money. Look at this.

Speaker 1 And then the second half started, and actually, really the fourth quarter, because it was 35-14 in the fourth quarter, and Tuanan,

Speaker 1 Tua, gets to fucking just have his day, all the haters, and the Dolphins pull off a stunning upset. And Tyreek Hill and Jalen Waddell are absolutely insane.

Speaker 1 I also love that this counts as a loss for Lamar Jackson. Yeah.
Like, how much of this loss should Lamar Jackson be responsible for? He couldn't get first downs in the second half.

Speaker 1 All I'm going to say is Joe Flacco found a way to close the game out. That's a fact.
Maybe they got rid of him, Ravens. But the interesting thing is the Mike Sando stat continues.

Speaker 1 The one that we discussed last year

Speaker 1 about

Speaker 1 the Dolphins. So now it's 19 games in a row.
where every time the Dolphins play against a quarterback with the letter O in their name,

Speaker 1 they win, and they lose to every quarterback that doesn't have the letter O. Tua can, yeah, two O in their last name.

Speaker 1 In their last name. So today, Lamar Jackson has an O.
It goes back all the way last year from week one, and now it's two more, and I think they play Josh Allen next week, so that's a loss.

Speaker 1 No, that's a win. No, that's a loss.
They beat every quarterback that has O. Right.
They beat Lamar Jackson. Right.
It's in the last name. Oh, it's only last name.
I think it's only last name. Got it.

Speaker 1 Got it. Got it.
I don't know. We're going to have to fact-check that.
Yeah, we have to fact-check that.

Speaker 1 Okay, so then, yeah because that will decide where we bet but tua tuandon like have your moment because he had a couple bad interceptions in the first half tua then becomes uh the only two quarterbacks younger than him to have six touchdowns in a game patrick mahomes and mitch chubisky two hall of famers excellent pretty good company yep pretty good company tua also um he was i think he's the first time that a dolphins quarterback it's like pretty much every record for the dolphins quarterback is dan marino and so he was the first one since Dan Marino to have six touchdowns, to have like 450 yards.

Speaker 1 He had an insane day. So another record that he set was he became the first Dolphins quarterback to set a new record since Dan Marino.
Yes, exactly. Pretty much.

Speaker 1 Like he's he is the he is the Dan Marino. Like Dan Marino, I love different franchises have one quarterback that just owns every single record.
Yep. And look at Tua.
He shows up.

Speaker 1 He's the new hotness. People are debating him.
Some people are calling him a backup quarterback. I have believed in Tua.
I am a member of Tuanon. And that second half was insane.

Speaker 1 And we should say, Mike McDaniels,

Speaker 1 he feels like, I know this is early. He feels like the real deal.
Tyreek Hill after the game said it was like he was playing Madden out there. Yeah.
Talking about Mike McDaniels' play calling.

Speaker 1 And then on the reverse side.

Speaker 1 John Harbaugh said, never did you think we'd have that many balls thrown over our head. That just can't happen.
That's not okay. That's a bad feeling.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you want to hear some more advanced stats here yes this is kind of crazy i'm excited for

Speaker 1 so the baltimore ravens their defensive backs they traveled a total of 6 131 yards on pass plays that's a lot that's a lot of yards like their their defensive backs ran miles and miles and miles and it turns out that when you just have two like super super fast players a really good strategy is have them run straight downfield almost every time and there's nothing you can do if you have both hill and waddle running go routes at the same time.

Speaker 1 You can't defend that and then cover the crossing routes. That's what I was going to say.
It's impossible to do.

Speaker 1 Mike McDaniel's offense, he obviously does a lot of intricate stuff, but it feels like one of the guys runs a go route and the other guy just runs underneath.

Speaker 1 And it's like you can't, the gravity of Tyreek Hill running straight down the field pulls everyone, and then Jalen Waddell streaking underneath. He catches the ball.

Speaker 1 He had that one where it was, I don't know, probably a 40-yard run after the catch. And again,

Speaker 1 like Tua,

Speaker 1 I love Tua because I just love the story and rooting for a guy who's seemingly a very nice guy that a lot of people shit on. Okay, the game is officially over, Justin Fields.

Speaker 1 That's probably why he shouldn't pass. He threw an interception.
Was that on his 10th attempt? It was on his 11th attempt.

Speaker 1 Not good.

Speaker 1 It turns out, yeah, like the weapons that he has now and Mike McDaniels' offense, it's explosive. Like they, you, I don't know how you guard those two guys at the same time.

Speaker 1 And Tua, again, he struggled in the first half, but he was able to write the ship and hit those guys in stride, be accurate.

Speaker 1 He's not asked to throw like bombs, but it was awesome to watch. It was a stunner.
Like we turned the game off.

Speaker 1 We turned the Ravens-Dolphins game off because it was a 21-point game in the fourth quarter. They started, they scored and then they scored again.
We're like, wait, we have to turn this back on.

Speaker 1 And the Dolphins are fucking 2-0. And they just went into Baltimore and beat the Ravens, which, like, we all, if you watch that first half, we're like, wow, the Ravens are really like, for real.

Speaker 1 They're back. They're killing the Dolphins.
Now, I don't know what to make of the Dolphins. It's a fucking good team.
Here's what I'm prepared to say about the Daniels.

Speaker 1 They're a good team. I want to get ahead of this take.
I don't actually believe in it yet, but it's one that I'm going to squat on for about three months or so.

Speaker 1 Once the weather turns cold, I'm going to start buying into the whole storyline of this team isn't built to win in the playoffs. Well, and

Speaker 1 because they are kind of like, I mean, Tyreek Hill said all of it, that like it's like playing Madden out there.

Speaker 1 And sometimes it shows that football coaches can can make things way, way, way too complicated when the best thing to do sometimes is just amass the fastest players that you can possibly find and then have them run and then have other players try to chase them who are slower.

Speaker 1 Right. That's kind of what his offense amounts to and get them in space.

Speaker 1 Obviously, there's stuff that he does that makes it a little bit more complicated than that, but that's like that's at the core of what his offense is, which seems very simple.

Speaker 1 I want to see him run the ball. Yeah.
I want to see him run the ball.

Speaker 1 That's that's probably not something that they'll have to do for a little bit, but I can't wait until they break out like the candy ass, uh, like aqua uniforms.

Speaker 1 And you've got people actually doing that take of like, I don't think that the Dolphins can win in wintertime. I'm 100% on that take.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was the Matt Moore game when they went to Pittsburgh, yep, and they were wearing the Dolphins uniforms, and it was like, you can't, he got concussed on that play.

Speaker 1 It was like, you can't like, you can't show up to Pittsburgh with those candy ass uniforms. You can't wear Aqua and go north of the Mason-Dixon line.

Speaker 1 And I don't really know what to make of the Ravens now because that was you always expect the Ravens to have a good defense. And obviously, Kyle Fuller tore his ACL in week one, which hurts them.

Speaker 1 And you expect them, especially when they have the lead like that, to be able to protect a lead. Maybe it was just one of those freaky games, but I'm a believer in Mike McDaniels.

Speaker 1 He showed up to the game in aviators and like a pink shirt. He looks like

Speaker 1 he's fun.

Speaker 1 He is fun.

Speaker 1 I hope we don't have to have the pendulum swing back on him. If they start losing, he's not able to rally the troops.
But right now, he's fun to watch. They're a fun team.
And to Anon gets its day.

Speaker 1 There were a couple moments in the game where Tyreek Hill was doing the thing that Tyreek Hill does, where after an insanely explosive play where he just outruns everybody, he goes to the sidelines because his entire body is a cramp.

Speaker 1 Yes. Because he's got, he's just like one muscle.
It's just all over his body. And he always just like, he needs to recharge for a second sometimes after plays.

Speaker 1 But there really is no way to stop him and Waddle as long as he can throw a pass. Right.
You can't cover both of them at the same time. I also love Tyreek Hill.

Speaker 1 There's at least like four or five times a game where he's running and he's very covered and he puts his hand up. He's just the always open guy.

Speaker 1 And you need that guy on your team who always thinks he's open because he's such an electric playmaker. I mean, they had 32 total targets for the two of them.

Speaker 1 Like sometimes football isn't such rocket science. Fast guys, guys that are faster than everyone get them ball.
Yep. That's it.
Mike Bukhara.

Speaker 1 That's probably why the Patriots offense thinks because they do have a rocket scientist trying to figure it out. Right, right.
Also, Funstat 2 is 8-1 against Super Bowl winning coaches. Yeah.

Speaker 1 So he's a goat killer. He is a GOAT killer.

Speaker 1 Also, so the stats were

Speaker 1 the first Dolphins QB since Dan Marino in 1995 to throw for 450 yards in the

Speaker 1 first Dolphins QB to throw for five TDs since Dan Marino in 1994. So he's...

Speaker 1 I'm just saying. I know it's a different league.
I know everything's changed. It's passing, everything.

Speaker 1 To a none. Expect us.
How mad do you think Dan Marino is that he never got to play with Chris Forrester as his line coach? Yeah.

Speaker 1 They would have gotten along really well.

Speaker 1 They would have been. Fast friends.
Yes. Thieves.

Speaker 1 Also, first 21-plus-point comeback in the force since 2006. It's just the eighth time it's happened in the Super Bowl era.
That's crazy. If you're the Ravens, is it like all doom and gloom right now?

Speaker 1 No. Our offense kicked ass today.
That was pretty cool. I think that's one of those ones you have to just chalk up to like shit got away from us.
We got two.

Speaker 1 Yeah, like shit, like shit just kind of got away from us, and we didn't really have an answer for it. We'll have a better answer next week.
Yeah. And we won't have to.
Who do they play next week?

Speaker 4 Dolphins. Oh, Ravens? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Whose line is it anyway? Ravens versus? Baltimore at New England. Oh, at the Patriots.
That's good for Baltimore.

Speaker 1 The Patriots do not have two players like Jalen Waddell and Tyree Kill, I'd say. No,

Speaker 1 whose line is it anyway? I'm going to say it is Ravens

Speaker 1 minus two and a half. I'm going to say Ravens minus

Speaker 1 four.

Speaker 1 What is it? Minus three and a half. Oh.
No, that's my guess. Oh, that's your guess.
All right. Find it for us, James.
I'm loading.

Speaker 4 Dolphins host the Bills, by the way, next week.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's Allen.

Speaker 1 So it's the Bills. What time? No, when it last league.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 The Packers-Bears game just went final. Justin Fields, seven for 11, 70 yards, one interception.

Speaker 1 That's like, if that was the first quarter, it would be decent. 7 for 11.
Like, oh, it was a taking 90 yards. It was a tip ball interception.

Speaker 4 We have the line.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Ravens minus 3.

Speaker 1 Oh, okay. Okay.
Okay. Good pick.
All right. All right.

Speaker 1 All right. Next game.
That seems low.

Speaker 1 Oh, you're thinking. You're thinking Hungry Dog?

Speaker 1 I know you're thinking to take the Ravens against your. No, I'm not going to do that, but I would have thought it was more.
I don't know. First home game, right, for the Patriots? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Three's an important number. What's the crowd going to be like?

Speaker 1 Rock us. Are they going to boo Belichick? No.
No.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 Jets. Same record as you fuckers.
Yeah. That's right.

Speaker 1 We all suck except for Jets. Every one in in one.
What else is new? Yeah. That's kind of the story of this podcast.
Even Billy joined the one-in-one squads. Billy is coming back from Philly right now.

Speaker 1 He will be here for the end of the show to talk about the Water Dogs. Hank's saying no.
Jets Browns. This game was crazy because the Browns won this game.
And then they didn't. They were up.

Speaker 1 Nick Chubb scores a touchdown with a minute and like 50 seconds left. If whenever it happens and everyone gets mad, 20 seconds left.
A minute, 20 seconds left.

Speaker 1 Whenever it happens and everyone gets upset when a player goes down because of fantasy or whatever, this is why the player should go down.

Speaker 1 If Nick Chubb goes down instead of scoring a touchdown here, the game is completely over. The Browns are 2-0.
The Jets are 0-2. Instead, he scores the touchdown.
Joe Flacco throws a bomb.

Speaker 1 They get an onside kick. Oh, they miss, by the way, KD York misses the extra point after Nick Chubb's touchdown.

Speaker 1 So the Jets score a touchdown, get the on-side kick, score a touchdown with like 15 seconds left, win the game. Complete shocker.

Speaker 1 0.3% the Jets had. I don't ever trust that win probability, but 0.3% feels right for down

Speaker 1 13 points with a minute 20 and no timeout.

Speaker 1 Yeah, from week nine of 2001 through week one of 2022, so that's 21 years, teams had lost 2,229 consecutive games when trailing by at least 13 points in the final two minutes. That's crazy.

Speaker 1 And what else is crazy, this is one of those things that only makes sense inside my brain. You might agree, but I think some people out there understand what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 When you see the score of 30 to 17, that seems like so much more than 13 points. Because it jumps.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because it jumps to

Speaker 1 goes through the twos and the ones. Yeah, the 0 to 7, the 30 to 17 point differential.
I think that's the biggest 13-point lead that you can have in sports. It's like 31.19.
It seems like a ton.

Speaker 1 31.19, game over. Yeah, right.
Absolutely. Right, right.
But yeah, it was crazy. Chubb should have gone down for sure.

Speaker 1 And then Kevin Stefanski said, you know, Kevin Stefanski, he's becoming the new Frank Reich, who is now becoming the new Dan Quinn.

Speaker 1 What I mean by that is like in your post-game press conference is being like, this is on me. I got to take a hard look in the mirror.
Oh, I have some Frank Reich quotes when we get to it.

Speaker 1 Just being the mirror guy. Yeah.
I got to take a long look in the mirror. This one starts.
It starts with me. And then you evolve into, it starts and ends with me.
Yeah. Into that guy.

Speaker 1 He's not there yet, but he's saying, blame me. Stefansky wants us to blame him for this result.
Okay, you're an idiot. You should approach your guys to go down.
You're a moron. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because this has happened before to Chubb, right? So you should tell him. You should have had that conversation.

Speaker 1 Also, you got to change Brownie the Elf. Yep.
They tried putting Brownie the Elf at midfield. Brownie the Elf is 0-1.

Speaker 1 Sometimes you've got to know when to cut your losses right when they start because, right, it's bad vibes. As we said, he has got terrible ball security.
Looks like a chump.

Speaker 1 Just looks very, very much off balance, running too high, not behind his pads at all. I think after this type of loss, you have to change whatever you can change, and and you've got a great scapegoat.

Speaker 1 So if I'm the Browns,

Speaker 1 don't let this opportunity slip away. Yeah, do it right now.
Scapegoat Brownie the Elf as your midfield logo and be like, we're going back to the helmet. Yeah, and it was,

Speaker 1 you know,

Speaker 1 the Browns have such a history of sadness that I don't know if you noticed, but there was a brief moment that Dwayne Rudd was trending on Twitter.

Speaker 1 And if you don't recognize the name Dwayne Rudd, it was

Speaker 1 the linebacker for the, I think it might have actually been defensive lineman for the Browns. In 2002, the Browns are about to beat the Chiefs with four seconds left.
He tried to sack Trent Green.

Speaker 1 Trent Green lateraled it. Dwayne Rudd took his helmet off in celebration and threw it, got a penalty.
They got an extra like 30 yards because the game can't end on a defensive penalty.

Speaker 1 Kicked the field goal, won the game. Four seconds left, game over.
And so Dwayne Rudd started trending. And I was like, oh, shit, I forgot about Dwayne Rudd.
That was a great play.

Speaker 1 That's Browns' misery that they're like, this is like Dwayne Rudd over, you know, even though there's not one specific specific point, I guess Nick Chubb not going down.

Speaker 1 But on-side kick, we never get to see on-side kicks work anymore. It's kind of cool.
Also, Joe Flacco's back, baby. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Joe Flacco, he did what Joe Flacco does in this game, which is he showed zero emotion. So Russell Wilson tries to be a robot sometimes, but he tries too hard.
Right.

Speaker 1 A robot doesn't have to try to be a robot. It just is.
Yes. Joe Flacco is a fucking robot.
And when he's out on the field sometimes, and it goes both ways because he'll be in the pocket.

Speaker 1 And you'd like to see him panic a little bit, maybe try to escape a sack. But Joe Flacco doesn't do that.
He just kind of stands there and gets hit. But he is unflappable.
So it goes both ways.

Speaker 1 He'll be unflappable when he's about to get hit and he'll take some bad sacks, but he'll also just stand there and deliver perfect passes like they were thrown out of a drugs machine occasionally.

Speaker 1 Yes. And he doesn't show any emotion.
It's almost like you walk into your boss's office and he's filing TPS reports.

Speaker 1 And that's the

Speaker 1 he's always looking like somebody is walking through a parking garage trying trying to find a lost car.

Speaker 1 And you'd think he'd be a little happier to be in a game day environment because the story was, he said a couple weeks ago that his son said that he sucks. He's like, you don't want to go home.

Speaker 1 You get fucking heckled at home. You'd probably rather be around the guys.

Speaker 1 But yeah, it's true.

Speaker 1 He has an affect now where it's like

Speaker 1 he's just showing up and clocking in and doing monotonous XL

Speaker 1 formulas all day long instead of playing pro football.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's doing the thing where he's, it's kind of like a big inside joke to him where every time he does something incredible, he's like, holy shit, I can't believe I can still do that. Yeah, wow.

Speaker 1 That was cool. I haven't done that in like eight years.
I'm old, and I can't believe that I have another chance to do this.

Speaker 1 He's reached the point in his career where he's like, he's so thankful because he knows that he shouldn't be starting in games right now. Right.
But he's still getting another chance.

Speaker 1 And this probably means he's going to get another sick backup contract somewhere for another couple years. Forever.
Here's a funny thing.

Speaker 1 And his mobility is very funny because there was multiple times where he almost got stripped. And the Browns' defensive line is still great.

Speaker 1 This back half of their defense is a fucking mess. You saw it with the was anyone even close to who scored the touchdown to get it within one?

Speaker 1 To get it within one.

Speaker 1 It was right before the on-site kick. And you were saying...

Speaker 1 Yeah, and it was like, what's going on with the Browns defense?

Speaker 1 Their secondary is a complete debacle. Yeah, this is...
Here's a fun little stat. This is the first time since 2011 that the Jets, Lions, and Jaguars all went on the same day.
Wow. How about that?

Speaker 1 I wonder how many different league-wide Winnagamis there are. Yeah.
That was a fun one.

Speaker 4 I believe KFC tweeted this out. First time Yankees, Mets, Jets, Giants won since 2009.

Speaker 1 And it also was the first time, I believe, that the Jets and Giants had won week two

Speaker 1 since for like five years. They just don't win on week two.
Yeah. So, yeah, I mean, it was a, it was a, I still can't believe it.
I mean, I don't know, is this when Robert Sala says,

Speaker 1 let me pull out the receipts? It's because it felt like they just, That one, I don't know if you can rep. That wasn't a winning formula.

Speaker 1 No, it's throat time. Yeah.
It's throat time. Open of a ton of time.
Open wide media because Robert Salah has. God damn it.
It's one of those things where Billy

Speaker 1 mispronounced his name so many times. Robert Salah.

Speaker 1 Anyways, my throat's open. Yeah.
Bob. Put it in there.
What were you going to say, Hank? Just wanted to get your live reaction. I haven't heard this shit either, but.
Tough history.

Speaker 1 There's a long history of games between these two teams. Now we've won 104 times against them.

Speaker 1 Not that you're counting. No, I think everybody in Green Bay is counting for sure.
Tough history. What does he got? A fucking southern accent.
Yeah, he did the southern accent. So he's on perks.

Speaker 1 That's what happened. Arrest them.
Oh, Moni. You remember that? Yeah, he's on.
That's the southern accent that he goes in. That's honestly, it's offensive.

Speaker 1 I am going to, I haven't texted him since we had him on. I'm going to text him in an hour and say 234 yards passing is embarrassing and see

Speaker 1 he'll probably agree. I just don't like his wide receiver sucks.
I don't like when he pretends to co-opt Southern culture.

Speaker 1 He's doing white voice. Yeah, he is.
It's disgusting. Can I ask a question? And this is, we're a judgment-free podcast.
We're not going to judge anyone, but I'm just asking from a pure karmic spot.

Speaker 1 The Browns' loss today was horrific, and they have had horrific losses in their franchise history. It's not a great franchise history.
We saw our friend Jeff D.

Speaker 1 Lowe was there, and he was like, same old Browns. Karma.

Speaker 1 Do you think there's anything to be attributed to the tailgates where it's like a dude with a boner, a mannequin with a boner saying happy endings aren't illegal, free tips?

Speaker 1 And then other people with Deshaun Watson jerseys that like one of them said like rub, the other said tug. Do you think there's any karma involved?

Speaker 1 Because I feel like Browns fans, again, I'm not going to tell, I'm not going to go around being like, hey, you shouldn't make any jokes, but you might want to, if you think karma's karma's involved at all, maybe just be like, clean it up, Browns fans, so you can maybe get some wins.

Speaker 1 This is a horrific loss. I think if you're Browns fans,

Speaker 1 you either have to go one of two ways with it, which is you just accept that you got a scumbag on your team, so then you become more of a scumbag. Which is what they did with that.

Speaker 1 Because that was like, they're basically making a complete joke of the whole thing. Or you just abandon the franchise.
That's kind of. Well, I guess Jeff D.

Speaker 1 Lowe is one of the things that's middle grounds that is like middle ground. Like, I cheer for the uniform.
Right. You could cheer.

Speaker 1 Whoever's in that uniform, uniform, I will root for. Right.
Separate the art from the artist a little bit. And there's a difference between,

Speaker 1 I hate when everyone plays the, oh, well, you root for that guy, you root for that guy. Like, just saying, like, oh, your team has that guy.
Every team has scumbags.

Speaker 1 But you also don't have to celebrate what they did. Yeah.
I mean, you should at least acknowledge the fact that like...

Speaker 1 You have a mom who's a female. And so you understand how maybe a sister who's a female.
Maybe you have a dog that's a female.

Speaker 1 Maybe you watch a lot of lesbian porn, so you feel very close to a lot of women. Do you know? Um, did you ever have a teacher that was a female?

Speaker 1 So you need to just really scrap and claw at any possible thing that you can bring up to make it seem like you're not cheering for a scumbag. I did see that picture.

Speaker 1 It was quite something.

Speaker 1 It was shocking even for Brownsfan. Even for the muni lot.
The muni lot, which, like, that's international waters. It's lawless.
You can do whatever you want in the muni lot.

Speaker 1 In fact, like, lawlessness is the only law is please break laws. I guess in the muni lot.

Speaker 1 In the muni lot, like, they they kind of won because it is kind of the whole point of the muni lot is to shock everyone as much as possible. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And that one, I saw it and I kind of like stopped in my choice. Whoa, you really went for the joke.
Yeah. And you went quickly for it.
Like, it's the first home game. It's pretty bad.

Speaker 1 It was a pretty bad display they had set up. It was like a giant...

Speaker 1 What do you call those things? Dioramas? Ooh, no, it was an actual massage table.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it was like a life-size diorama that people usually make out of shoeboxes, but they're like, hey, are quarterbacks super horny?

Speaker 1 like, it was honestly as close to celebrating multiple sexual assaults.

Speaker 1 That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 I want to see if they've done anything making fun of Big Ben in the past. Yes, and then compare and contrast.
Yes.

Speaker 1 Again, I don't think you have to, you know, we all root for

Speaker 1 sports are very messy, and I don't like when people are like, well, you root for that team and that guy, but you don't have to celebrate it. Yeah.
That was celebration. But again, maybe you're right.

Speaker 1 Maybe it's like you just have to go, you have to one-up the scumbag. Yeah.
Well, the Jets came from behind unexpectedly today. So turnabout.
Yes. That's

Speaker 1 it was a shot. It was a shocking, shocking loss for them.
I feel like I've seen everything. Yeah.
But seeing that dummy in the parking lot. And those two.
Yeah. Yeah, that one.

Speaker 1 They're talking about the loss. I don't know.
I actually don't know which was more shocking. The loss or the dummy? It was bad.

Speaker 1 But both those games, the Ravens, Dolphins, and the Jets, Browns happening right at the same time, because both those were completely...

Speaker 1 I tweeted, like if you had the Ravens and the Browns today in bets like you just need to you just need to lie down like in a cold dark room and just settle in and just be like all right next week's my week

Speaker 1 Okay. It can't get any worse for you.
No, it can't by the way Joe Flacco 18 and 3 versus the Browns not talked about

Speaker 1 Big Ben's the Browns killer, but Joe Flacco also a Browns killer, which makes sense. Yeah, 18 and 3.

Speaker 1 He was playing on the Ravens for forever when they were a really good team and they had that tough defense. Right, exactly.

Speaker 1 So I don't know where the Browns, the Browns feel like they just have to tread water until Deshaun does come back, right? Yeah, that's it. I mean, if they...
And Jacoby Rosett's not doing bad.

Speaker 1 He was, I actually saw that he was, he had an 80% completion rate. Like, he didn't do anything bad.
It was the Browns' defense and special teams and Nick Chubb not going down.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he just didn't win. Yeah.
All right. Patriots, Steelers, Hank.
This game stunk.

Speaker 1 This was a Big Ten West game. Yeah, it was ugly.
Yeah. It was a logo game.
One big play.

Speaker 1 This is Iowa, Wisconsin, where it's like, let's just punt and hope the other team makes a mistake on a punt return.

Speaker 1 It was a logo game where it was on one of our center TVs today, and I think a lot of people are probably watching and tuning into this.

Speaker 1 But as far as the actual players that are inside those uniforms, it actually resembles nothing of these two franchises from just like three or four years ago. Although it's tough.

Speaker 1 Mitch Trubisky, nice guy, friend of the program, he kind of resembles Big Ben's offense where everything's a check down.

Speaker 1 Everything is a check down. Check down, really wide handoffs to Najee Harris.
Just

Speaker 1 check down after check down. They're terrified of running the ball up the middle.

Speaker 1 And Mac Jones, what's your status right now?

Speaker 1 Did you see the one that he threw that didn't get picked off? Yeah. That was one of the worst passes.
I mean,

Speaker 1 I was in a different section. I was watching the game with the sound on, and it was ugly.
There was just nothing. There was that one big play.

Speaker 1 That's basically the only takeaway you can have from this game. And the Gunner O'Shevski fumble, which people are like, oh, Belichick, double agent.
agent. Belichick's double agent for everything.

Speaker 1 Yeah. He gets it all the time.
A good run game to win Patriots, though. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Are you having... Remember last week we talked about like, is he the guy? Like, for instance, my quarterback was 7 for 11 for 70 yards with one interception.

Speaker 1 I am going to bed tonight being like, he might not be the guy. I don't want that thought, but I'm having that thought.
21 for 35, 252 yards, and a touchdown is not terrible.

Speaker 1 He did have a lot of time to throw. Like, TJ Watt,

Speaker 1 if you watch that game today, you're like, oh yeah, that's why TJ Watt is so fucking good. I don't think the Steelers had a sack.

Speaker 1 Like he makes everyone better on their defensive line and he makes everything way harder for a quarterback and then Mac Jones felt like he had forever today.

Speaker 1 Mac Jones, before I could confidently say he's the guy, he's got to do better when he's out of the pocket.

Speaker 1 When he gets out of the pocket, it's a disaster. And if your quarterback's the guy, he can make things happen.
Correct.

Speaker 1 These are the types of games that it's actually way more frustrating than if he had stunk. Because if he continues to have games like this, you'll be in a constant state of, is he the guy?

Speaker 1 But he's winning. But he's winning.
Right. And you can't doubt a winner.
And then it's like, well, he had 252 yards. But what about the interceptions that got dropped?

Speaker 1 We're going to teach you a lot about the is he the guy thought process because again you've never had to do this in your life but what pft just pointed out mitch is a perfect example of went to the playoffs yep a winner is he the guy is jason campbell still the guy i still don't know if jason campbell's the guy in washington

Speaker 1 i know he's not the guy in Chicago because of that Monday night football game. Right, but that was Colin Kaepernick fucking eviscerated.
That was when he was a bear. Yeah, right.
He still might be

Speaker 1 the guy in Washington, though. But yeah, no, Hank,

Speaker 1 it's going to be tough because I'll tell you right now, I don't think Mac Jones is the guy, but I think he's close enough to being the guy that he'll have you wondering whether or not he's the guy for a very long time.

Speaker 1 And that's the worst kind of guy to have.

Speaker 1 What I would come back with is that the Patriots had a second-year quarterback and a really good defense.

Speaker 1 The quarterback maybe had been the guy his second year, and the defense carried them to a championship.

Speaker 1 Obviously, the Patriots defense I don't think is as good as the 2001 Patriots, but like, I don't think I'm going to have a definitive answer this season.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, it's set up, yeah, where he won't be asked to do probably too much. And Bill Belichick, like, this was, I bet on the Patriots Day because I was like, Bill Belichick, awful loss.

Speaker 1 Like, he's not going to, they'll figure out a way to win this game. It was kind of, they pounded the run.
They played, they made the Steelers make one mistake in special teams, teams, and that was it.

Speaker 1 That was kind of the game. Like, that was

Speaker 1 one big Mac Jones throw, and that was the game. Like, clap it up, game over.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 1 I think Mac Jones has flashes of guy. The same.

Speaker 1 He's got to do better outside the box. That's the worst kind of guy.
Yeah, I know. There's a couple of people.
You guys give no time. What do you mean? Well, no, dude, you can't.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you can't hit him. Here's what happened.
You know what NFL stands for? PFT hit him. Hit him with it.
Not

Speaker 1 for

Speaker 1 long.

Speaker 1 It's not for long week. Nobody knows that.

Speaker 1 You don't have a lot of time to figure out whether you're the guy. So the problem with a guy that flashes the guy is he's not the guy.

Speaker 1 I'd rather have a guy that does not flash ever, and you make it easy because what happens is after year two, then you start having the conversation about whether or not you give the guy the fifth-year guy option at quarterback.

Speaker 1 And then that becomes the entire evaluation problem. Then you waste another year

Speaker 1 trying to figure out that the guy ball test is not going to be friendly to Mac Jones in year three. It's going to be bad.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're going to have to start having that conversation next year of is he the guy fifth year option, even though it's still two years away. And it feels way too early to tell.

Speaker 1 We're just speaking from tortured living of like the guy is an important conversation you have to have with yourself. Absolutely.
But looking around the league, there is very few guys.

Speaker 1 I watch all these games and there's just really

Speaker 1 not any out there. Look at Josh Allen.
All right, Josh Allen's a guy. Patrick Mahomes is a guy, so that's two.
I'm going to go with Joe Burrow. He's the guy.
Is he? Oh, don't start that, Hank.

Speaker 1 I'll allow it, but we got this very moment. At this very moment,

Speaker 1 I would go so far as to say he's him. Lamar? Yep.
Yep. That's a guy.
Definitely a guy.

Speaker 1 We're missing like way too many Rogers.

Speaker 1 Rogers is the guy. Yeah, absolutely.
Brady, six. Herbert.
Herbert? Do you?

Speaker 1 Yes. Yes, yes.
That's the guy. Russell Wilson.
Russell Wilson is the the guy?

Speaker 4 Not Derek Carr yet.

Speaker 1 No, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, no.
Please don't go there. Don't do that.
Jameis.

Speaker 1 Jameis was a good person. We love Jameis.
I was going to go to the bathroom today. That was pretty good.
Trevor Lawrence? No. I mean, he would look good today.

Speaker 1 I think the Jaguars are bad, but

Speaker 1 I guess not. Yeah, no, he could be a guy.
Not that many guys. Right.
Wait, Kirk Cousins. Nope.

Speaker 1 Okay, again,

Speaker 1 Tyler. Not to go all Muni lot on him.
Tyler is. I think Kyler.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, Deshaun's a guy. Deshaun's a guy.
Kyler, so that's 11.

Speaker 1 Who else are we missing? Who are we missing? We're missing someone obvious. No, no, no.
We're missing someone obvious. Oh, I mean, Stafford's the guy.
You just want a fucking Super Bowl. True.

Speaker 1 Is Alan Hurts the guy? No, not yet. He could be guy adjacent.

Speaker 1 He's not guy yet. Yeah, he's not all the way.
Jack. Oh, Jack, Jared Goff.
Jared Goff, definitely a guy. 14 guys we've just counted.
It's less than 50%.

Speaker 1 But that's a decent amount of guys. Yeah, but half of them are super old.

Speaker 1 Like Rogers, Wilson, Brady. I don't don't know that.
I mean, they're obviously the guys, but they're on their way. They're men.

Speaker 1 They're old men. I'm just saying,

Speaker 1 it's a question. I mean, like, I think the Steelers right now are going to have to ask, like, hey, we got to probably put in the guy that we got to figure out.

Speaker 1 If he is the guy, and Kenny Pickett, yeah. And again, I love Mitch, but like,

Speaker 1 that was tough to watch the Steelers' offense. The NFL is a guy-driven league, and if you don't have one, then you're looking for one.
That's just how it goes. Tua? Tua is a guy.

Speaker 1 This is the year for Tua. Tua is a guy.
If they don't make the playoffs, not the guy. No, he's the guy.
Jake, it sounds like very ready to write two off.

Speaker 4 No, at the beginning of the season, like that's what I was saying to myself. Two is the guy.

Speaker 1 If they took the playoffs, Tua's a guy. Yeah.
He's two is the real thing. So far, he's the guy.
Is Dak the guy? We'll have to get into that because I don't know.

Speaker 1 I might even throw a challenge flag on Dak. Yeah, Cooper Rush might be the guy.
You

Speaker 1 won the game today.

Speaker 1 All right, so any last things about the Steelers Patriots? No.

Speaker 1 No,

Speaker 1 I think they're actually kind of very similar teams where they won't.

Speaker 1 I love that Hank does max. If Hank has a way, he will find a way to just needle Philadelphia.
No, he had a great game.

Speaker 1 That was my takeaway. He had a good game.
He had a great game.

Speaker 1 Fact or fiction, would you have said that if he wasn't a former Philadelphia Eagle?

Speaker 1 Fact. Belichick said after that.
Look at the stat sheet. Yeah.
Yeah. Okay, yeah.
Fact. You wouldn't have said that if he wasn't a former Philadelphia Eagle.
Fiction. Thank you.

Speaker 1 No, you already said fact. I also think you can tell a lot about the Patriots by whether Belichick's smiling or not.

Speaker 1 And he was, there were some pictures of him like smiling very large smile after the game because I think he loves those type of games.

Speaker 1 He loves winning those games. Yeah, right.
And he also, I think, knows deep down, like probably not the most talented roster. So wins, you know, getting wins that way is fun for him.

Speaker 1 So do you think that Bill Belichick is kind of challenging himself to play the NFL in expert mode right now? Yeah, kind of. To play with a guy who's not the guy.

Speaker 1 So like he has no offensive coordinator. Yeah, no, no offensive coordinator.
Oh, no, a defensive coordinator, a failed head coach, former defensive coordinator, as as your offensive coordinator.

Speaker 1 And a failed former head coach, special teams coach as your other offensive coordinator. So, yeah, I think Belichick.
Your son is defensive coordinator. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 No, I think that's what's going on right now in New England is he's just trying.

Speaker 1 He's trying to just grit his way to it. He has a bet.
It's like that movie, was it

Speaker 1 Trading Places? Sure. Where they made that bet for a dollar.
Bill Belichick has a bet with Nick Sabin that's like, can I take a college roster and a college coaching staff and end up going above 500?

Speaker 1 Yeah. They both are like, hey, can you win a championship with Brett Bilama? Yeah.
And they both gave it a shot. Yeah.
I think that's what's happening here. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Bill Boucher just essentially just walked into the season and was like, put some more weight on the bar.

Speaker 1 I want to see if I can fucking max 450. Yep.
And so he's doing it. I like our chances.
They're one and one.

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Speaker 1 Okay, next up, Lions Commanders.

Speaker 1 I know, PFT, you have a lot you want to say. I'll just start with...

Speaker 1 The Lions might be good. So the Lions played the best half of football that I've ever seen in my entire life.
They're golf. And

Speaker 1 they should have been winning by a lot more than they were.

Speaker 1 But that first half that they played was just

Speaker 1 all facets of the game. Just like firing on every single cylinder.
The pass rush, Aiden Hutchinson had like three sacks. Three sacks in the first half.
In the first half. All over Carson Wentz.

Speaker 1 All over Carson Wentz, and our defense was so bad. I guess we were keeping their best weapon, which is Jack Fox, their punter, off the field.

Speaker 1 So that was smart by just letting them continue to drive on it.

Speaker 1 Can I ask a question real quick? Because this is a safe space. We're all talking about our team's deficiencies.

Speaker 1 Again, my quarterback was 7 for 11 for 70 yards and an interception. You just said our defense was so bad.

Speaker 1 I think your defense might just be bad. It was bad today.

Speaker 1 And it was bad. It was a great week one.
It was bad week one, too. So it might just be bad.
But wait, but then it was bad last year.

Speaker 1 Right. So, yes, we're a bad defense.
We're a bad team. We have many, many flaws.
Carson Wentz, again,

Speaker 1 he's got no internal clock. He's a spaz back there when he's playing quarterback.
I've never seen a quarterback besides Carson Wentz get social anxiety in the middle of a play.

Speaker 1 And it happens to him every time he drops back to pass. Well, he does.
He'll have a few times a game where he'll

Speaker 1 pull the ball down, turn around.

Speaker 1 like look and be like oh fuck you guys are here and it's all the defensive linemen that are there to sack him yeah and uh yeah he I mean we we said this last year he he He never,

Speaker 1 he thinks he can get out of any situation, no matter how bad it is. And that usually leads into safeties, sacks, fumbles, interceptions.
So the safety, I don't think was his fault today. No, because

Speaker 1 the offensive line got blew up a lot today, which was tough to see.

Speaker 1 I think maybe your offensive line just might be bad too. But you think we might, Carson Wentz is bad 50% of the time.
Our receivers are good. Our offensive line is bad.
Our defense is bad.

Speaker 1 And our kicking game is bad because we miss an extra point. So, overall,

Speaker 1 not a great year so far.

Speaker 1 Yeah, not a great team.

Speaker 1 It was the Carson Wentz roller coaster again because the first half, Carson Wentz and the offense had two first downs. In the second half, Carson Wentz had four touchdowns.
Yeah. So,

Speaker 1 double the amount of first downs and touchdowns. That first half.
That first half was the best half of football I've maybe ever seen.

Speaker 1 I actually think that the Detroit Lions, those Detroit Lions from the first half, if that's the team that shows up, they can win playoff games.

Speaker 1 DeAndre Swift is a stud. That play where he fell down, got up, and juked a guy.
And he was hurt. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Amon Ross St. Brown is awesome.
Jared was throwing dimes everywhere. Their defense gets, you know, their defensive line looks like it has real teeth.

Speaker 1 This is the first time that a Lions team has scored 35-plus points in three straight games since 1952. That team won the championship.
Okay. So watch out, Lions fans.
So it's giving in a

Speaker 1 championship right away. It is not giving those vibes.
Not a championship. That was pre-Super Bowl.
That was pre-Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 And I also loved Dan Campbell.

Speaker 1 This team obviously loves him, especially if they can start winning some games because we've said this before about Dan Campbell, but he's the type of coach that you can get a year or two of all-in maximum buy-in.

Speaker 1 But you have to start winning at some point. So it felt like today was pretty important because it's the first time they're favorites in a few years.

Speaker 1 He had the practice squad guy who ended up having to start offensive guard Dan Skipper go to the media first before anyone else. That was cool.
And that was a cool move.

Speaker 1 And that's like everyone loves him. It feels like they're all bought in.
I actually had the thought to myself today, the Lions might be good.

Speaker 1 And the thought came into my head when you were muttering to yourself all throughout the afternoon, we can't lose to the Detroit Lions.

Speaker 1 And I was thinking like, I think they're just a better team right now. No, the Detroit Lions,

Speaker 1 they are good. Yeah.
They're great.

Speaker 1 Make no mistake about it, what happened in the first half, it was a combination of like, yes, our defense is giving up eight yards per carry rushing on the year. And everyone's open down there.

Speaker 1 Not good. And everyone's open.
Again, not good. But also, Detroit played really well today.

Speaker 1 They did. Like every single fast of the game, they played well in the second half.
Obviously, they gave up some points. They had some points to play with on defense.
And Carson Wentz went out there.

Speaker 1 And in the second half, I actually thought that they were going to come back. It looked like it was going to be coming back.
I did too.

Speaker 1 And then they missed an extra point at the end, and then it was all over at that point. And then we had the saddest onside kick.

Speaker 1 There's nothing sadder than an onside kick that doesn't even go five yards. It's just, it's insulting because you're having to resort to desperate tricks to try to win a game.

Speaker 1 And then if you get a flag thrown on you because your desperate trick was too incompetent to qualify as a play, that's just twisting the knife in my soul. And it goes sadness for on-side kicks.

Speaker 1 It goes, kick doesn't go five, it doesn't go 10 yards. Kick goes directly out of bounds.
So no one even touches it, and then your guy touches it before the 10 yards.

Speaker 1 This was also like a trick on-side kick where they started with the ball on its side, and so they tried to do the thing where they kicked it sideways, and so it was just a colossal fight.

Speaker 1 Knuckle puck. There should be on-side kick specialists.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 If you're an on-side kick specialist and you can just do the same repetitive motion over and over and over again, that should be worth roster spot, I think. Young-ho-ku.
Young-wei. Young-wei-ku.
Yes.

Speaker 1 How do you say that? I think it's young-wei. Oh, that's young-wei.
Young-wei. Yeah, because I've spelled Young Way.

Speaker 1 It's very Decrucian.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I just went with the spelling. Yeah.
So

Speaker 1 it was demoralizing to lose that way, having just absolutely no chance in the first half and then a glimmer of hope and having that snuffed out. Reeling you back in.

Speaker 1 And I'm down to my last straw again with this franchise. And it's not to take anything away from the Detroit Lions, but we did just lose to the Detroit Lions.

Speaker 1 They're not those. I know, but you know, Big Cat, you know,

Speaker 1 the Bears play him twice a year and we lose to them. You know, hearing that, just thinking about that phrase is not fun to do.
So I'm down to my last straw.

Speaker 1 I want, I'm not one to call for another man's job.

Speaker 1 Why is Jack Del Rio still the defensive coordinator this year? I don't know. Why? That's a good question.
Like, all last year. His friends is Ron Rivera.
All last year. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I think Ron doesn't want to fire his guys. Yeah.
And so he's just like, no, you'll have to fire me to get to Jack.

Speaker 1 If Jack Del Rio... Doesn't get fired, we dust up.
Okay. We dust up.
We dust up. It's going to be a dust up.
I have one last question about this game. Did I lose you to Advanced Analytics?

Speaker 1 How?

Speaker 1 29-15. Oh, yeah.
Minutes left. That was different.
Okay.

Speaker 1 I'm glad it was go for two. And you're like, why are we going for two? I was like, PFT, might I remind you, down 14, score touchdown, go for two.
Okay, I'm glad that.

Speaker 1 And you're like, I don't like this situation. I was like, you got to trust it.
I'm glad you brought this up because...

Speaker 1 We found ourselves in that situation like three times in the fourth quarter. And so the first time I was like, yeah, you got to go for two here.
Well, no, they were down eight the first time.

Speaker 1 Okay, and then I mean, they were down. They were down.
No, it was 22. They were down 15.
Yes, they weren't down 14. Yes, so that made sense.

Speaker 1 So we were down 15, and I was like, yes, let's go for two here. Then we go for two.
Get it. We get it.

Speaker 1 And then in my mind, I'm like, okay, we already did the thing where we went for two, so I don't have to have this conversation with myself again.

Speaker 1 And then the next time we score, it's like, wait, I have to go for two. I just went for two.
You have to. How many times am I going to have to go for two on this? You got to trust the numbers.

Speaker 1 At that point, I got too deep into the numbers, and I was just like, kick a field goal, kick an extra point, and then that proved to be impossible for us to do also. Right.

Speaker 1 So you're still on the side of when you're down 14, you score late in the game, you got to go for two. Unless you just went for two and got it previously, because you can't go for two twice a day.

Speaker 1 It felt good to be able to flex on people again. Like, you don't understand math.
Yeah, I just,

Speaker 1 it was depressing watching this game. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Ruined the Gami.

Speaker 1 Ruined the Gami.

Speaker 4 We threw that last time, 36-29, but they kicked the extra point, missed. Karma.

Speaker 1 Nothing worse than ruining a Gami. Well, we're 500 right now.

Speaker 1 We're one game out of first place in the division. There you go.
The Giants. Giants sit atop.
They're in the captain's seat. 2-0.

Speaker 1 Okay, next up, Buck Saints. This game stunk.
Holy shit.

Speaker 1 This was the coolest thing that happened in this game was when Mike Evans and Lattimore got in a fight, and then the Saints lost their cool for the rest of the game.

Speaker 1 They got screwed by some suspect calls, and also Jameis threw just some unconscionable picks. Well, not really for him.

Speaker 1 They were old school Jameis picks. Yeah, Jameis threw some perfectly normal Jameis winters.
Pick six. Yeah.
But it was, this game was so, so bad for so long. And then it just broke open.

Speaker 1 It was like, well, fuck. The Bucs.
The Bucs defense is going to be... It is very, very good.
Because what?

Speaker 1 They let up no touchdowns week one. Yep.

Speaker 1 Yeah, a touchdown this week, but it was kind of garbage time. Their defense is so fucking good.
and I don't know. Tom Brady seems very agitated all the time.
Yeah, he's angry. You see him?

Speaker 1 He smashed the tablet. He smashed the tablet.
I also liked Mike Evans.

Speaker 1 Mike Evans and Lattimore have beef, so that was not like crazy that happened. But if you saw Mike Evans

Speaker 1 like pleading with the ref to not get kicked out of the game, you can hear him voice. You can like lip read.
He says, That's Tom Brady. What do you want me to do? Yeah, he had to have his back.

Speaker 1 He had to have his back. And basically, Lattimore was talking shit to Tom Brady.
and so Mike Evans saw Fournette come over, push Lattimore.

Speaker 1 And Mike Evans, I mean, he gets into a fight with Lattimore every single time that he either him or CeeDee Deuce from last year.

Speaker 1 But if it's the Saints against the Bucs, you know that Mike Evans is going to get kicked out of the game, or at least do something where he should get kicked out of the game for it.

Speaker 1 Who do you think won that trade if Mike Evans and Lattimore get kicked out of the game together? I feel like that should favor the Saints. It should, but it felt like the Saints lost their cool after

Speaker 1 and the Bucs have Tom Brady, so he was like, all right, I just need to get...

Speaker 1 That was such a classic game. And I was saying it because I had taken the Saints and I was like...

Speaker 1 This game is just hanging around that Tom Brady will make a play and Jameis will make a mistake and that will be all she wrote. And it almost went exactly like that where he hit one big pass.

Speaker 1 They score a touchdown. And then Jameis goes and throws a pick six.
And it's like, yep, that was fun.

Speaker 1 Why do we do the first three quarters of them just like hanging out and doing nothing? Yeah. Jameis also, we should mention, he played with four broken vertebrae.

Speaker 1 He's back, so he's a fucking warrior out there. Pain everywhere.
He's going out on a shield. It's pain, pain, pain.

Speaker 1 I like that Jay Glazer put that out before the game, and he was just like, but don't worry, he's going to be wearing some extra padding to cover up the four broken bones in his back that he'll be getting hit on.

Speaker 1 Yes. It's like, I'm sure that's really going to, that's really going to do it for him there, Jay.

Speaker 1 It was like a couple years ago when they said that Drew Brees, like they discovered, they kept discovering new broken ribs on him. But he put on an extra flat jacket today.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 So the 12th broken rib is actually not that much worse.

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, he can't throw the ball, but his ribs are there and he can stand behind center. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I had a note here. Sean Payton needs to work harder as shadow coach because I think he is the shadow coach of the New Orleans Saints right now.
He was on TV during the game today.

Speaker 1 Yeah, wearing a visor. He was wearing a visor with a suit.
Which is a combo that I don't think has ever been done before.

Speaker 1 Well, it's rare to get, I mean, think of how many people have existed wearing clothes. I don't think anyone's wore a full-piece suit and a visor at the same time.

Speaker 1 They love having the new coach be like, what were you known for? Oh, a visor? Okay, let's have you do the visor. And we visor talk with Sean Payton

Speaker 1 for 60 seconds in between commercial breaks. It was shocking.
It was shocking, though, to see that.

Speaker 1 That's the mind of a TV exec. They're like, all right, what were you known for?

Speaker 1 Like, if Belichick retired and went into media, they'd be like, all right, we're going to do Belichick Mumbles for 60 seconds, and it's going to be great. People are going to fucking love it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, if Andy Reid, they're just like, eat three steaks. Yeah, right.
Just like, we're going to have a camera on you, Andy. Yeah.
They're just like, all right, all right. Let me think.
Let me think.

Speaker 1 All right. You did this.
So let's just keep doing this forever. Yep.
And boom, show gets made.

Speaker 1 Yeah, this game was tough to watch. But I do think

Speaker 1 the biggest takeaway is that the Bucs are absolutely Super Bowl contenders, but it probably won't be,

Speaker 1 it's going to be in large part because of their defense. And then Tom Brady just has to get to a point where, because he hasn't looked super sharp, but you know he will eventually.

Speaker 1 He's taking Victory Wednesdays off now. Yeah.
That's the new thing that he said. Those are wife Wednesdays.
Moving forward this week. Oh, yeah.
Where he pleads with his wife that please stay.

Speaker 1 It's probably why he smashed the tablet because Giselle didn't tweet Good Luck Baby to him today. Yeah.
He was checking her timeline, saw it was empty.

Speaker 1 It was actually a ring account and she was not there. She was not at home again.
Interesting. But yeah, so he's taking Victory Family Wednesdays, which I kind of understand that.
He is 45 years old.

Speaker 1 Yeah. He's dealing with some real life shit right now.
Yeah, real life shit. Like, what gets accomplished on a Wednesday, anyways? Nothing.
Absolutely nothing. No.

Speaker 1 Also, Bruce Arians completely lied to us when he said, I've got my last flag in the NFL because he was on the sidelines yelling at refs today.

Speaker 1 He's 100% getting a flag this year. He's motherfucking him.
Yeah. He and Jason Light were on the sidelines.
Very weird. I wonder if maybe they just don't...

Speaker 1 The Saints don't give him sweets or something? I don't know.

Speaker 1 It's weird to see

Speaker 1 the former coach and the GM standing on the sidelines. Special consultant.
That's actually, it's not a bad role for Bruce Arians.

Speaker 1 I think that he'd get kicked out of the game before he'd get a flag, right? Yeah. Yeah, probably.

Speaker 1 And by the way, for the Bucs, we get to find out how good this defense actually is because they play the Packers next week and the Chiefs the week after. Oh, hell yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Pretty fucking good games.

Speaker 1 I might be ready to do the Max Kellerman thing. Be like, I think the game's past Tom Brady by.
But his defense might be good enough to make me look like an idiot if I do that. I would like to see.

Speaker 1 I'm not going to do it because this feels like a

Speaker 1 Mike Evans got kicked out of this game, Julio Jones hurt, Chris Godwin hurt. He's still trying to figure out life without Gronk.
Gronk might still come back.

Speaker 1 I'm going to put a pin in it till November. If November, they're not scoring touchdowns.
I'll be like, yeah, this is kind of weird. But

Speaker 1 this feels like a guy who... took 11 days off of training camp and has some new receivers and a couple of them are old.
What do you think, Hank? Tom Brady, give me a rating.

Speaker 1 He'll be ready for the playoffs. Yeah, I think he'll be totally fine.
I think it's just early season, no Gronk. He's 45.
Yeah. Yeah.
And

Speaker 1 he's, he does, like, again, he does not have Gronk, and he's going through maybe the D-word.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 he's got some things going on in his brain. But these next two games, they got Packers, Chiefs.
He looks like he lost a lot of weight.

Speaker 1 In his face. Yeah.
And then they play the Falcons, Steelers, and Panthers. They might not give up a touchdown in that three-game stretch.
Falcons, Steelers, Panthers. Win-win-win.

Speaker 1 They might not give up. They might.

Speaker 1 Over, under

Speaker 1 the Falcons, Steelers, and Panthers scoring 35 points combined. Under.
Yeah. One's going to be shut out.
Isn't that crazy? They're going to shut one of those. I would take the under two.

Speaker 1 Okay. Next up.
Jaguars, Colts.

Speaker 1 Jaguars 24, Colts, 0.

Speaker 1 Colts don't win in Florida. Well,

Speaker 1 I want to give the Jaguars their due, but the story here is that the Colts are tobacle. And Frank Reich,

Speaker 1 I threw out the question, like, why do we talk about him being a really good coach when I don't know if he is a really good coach, considering the fact that it feels like they always drop these games?

Speaker 1 He has not won a game in Jacksonville since he's been the coach. And I looked it up.
So

Speaker 1 I think they haven't won in Jacksonville since 2004. Frank Reich has been the coach since 2018.
2014. Yeah, in 2014, they haven't won in Jacksonville.
He's been the coach since 2018.

Speaker 1 So he's lost five straight times in Jacksonville. That is

Speaker 1 crazy considering the fact that in those five years, the Jaguars have 16 wins total. So there's a one in 15 season in there, the one win, the Jacksonville Jaguars beating the Colts that week one game.

Speaker 1 Remember that when they're like, job not finished? Yep. And then it was completely finished.
Here's another crazy stat. In those five seasons, it's four seasons in this season.

Speaker 1 So in those four seasons, the Jaguars have been outscored by 558 points. The Jaguars versus the Colts, the Jaguars have outscored the Colts in Jacksonville 121 to 51.
That makes no sense.

Speaker 1 That makes no sense. It doesn't.
That makes no sense.

Speaker 1 They've been very, very bad teams in Jacksonville. Like some of the worst teams in the last 30 years of the NFL.
Several of them have been in Jacksonville over the course of those seasons.

Speaker 1 I don't know what it is. There's really no good explanation for it.

Speaker 1 I guess Frank Wright just doesn't get his team ready to play on the road sometimes.

Speaker 1 And it's crazy. I think I know why we don't really talk about Frank Reich on the hot seat that much is because he's always been a guy that has a band-aid at quarterback.

Speaker 1 So it's like, okay, he acts like a guy that's one piece away from having a Super Bowl team. And it's just like, if we get an above-average veteran quarterback as a patch, then we should be good to go.

Speaker 1 He and Chris Ballard, the GM, together, have,

Speaker 1 I actually was thinking about it because I was like, why aren't we talking about Frank Reich on the hot seat? I think people actually kind of are now.

Speaker 1 And then I realized, I think Andrew Luck did the nicest thing he could have ever done for both Chris Ballard and Frank Reich.

Speaker 1 He gave them five years of job security because they can basically be like, Andrew Luck, he left us in the middle of the, like right before the season started. We're still kind of dealing with that.

Speaker 1 It's actually very reminiscent of the Bulls when Derrick Rose tours ACL.

Speaker 1 Garin Pax would get in front of him and be like, five years later, they'd be like, well, our timeline got fucked up because Derrick Rose's niece.

Speaker 1 Like, they basically are just like, yeah, Andrew Luck left us, so then we had to do Brissette. Then we had to do Rivers.
Then we had to do Wentz. Then we had to do Ryan.

Speaker 1 Like, they've done the patchwork every year, and it doesn't work.

Speaker 1 I know it's only two weeks. They scored zero points today.
Yeah, zero points against the Jaguars.

Speaker 1 And this was kind of like a revenge game for the Colts to go down there after what happened at the end of last year. I guess Carson Wentz doesn't look so bad, huh?

Speaker 1 Maybe you shouldn't have blamed it all on Carson Wentz.

Speaker 1 They probably wish they still had Carson Wentz. I bet you they do.
I bet you Carson Wentz is the best scapegoat to be able to do that. Yeah, because Matt Ryan's too nice of a guy to blame.

Speaker 1 We might not actually fire Jack Del Rio ever. We might just keep being like, look who our quarterback is.
Carson Wentz. Oh, Billy's here.
Billy. Hey, Billy.

Speaker 1 They had, so when Andrew Luck left, they really didn't have a plan B. Right, that's my point.
They could basically say

Speaker 1 everyone's given them an extended break because Andrew Luck left in the prime of his career

Speaker 1 a week before the season started, and that's bought him four extra years. Yeah, so they just keep doing band-aid quarterbacks year after year after year.

Speaker 1 As long as they don't draft another quarterback, I think as long as Frank Wright keeps the team above 500 and takes a cast off from some other franchise at the end of every season, he probably will keep being the coach of the Colts.

Speaker 1 Because other people can just be like, imagine if Andrew Luck was their quarterback, right? Yeah, that'd be fucking sick. That's a big upgrade.
So it's not their fault. It's a Super Bowl roster.

Speaker 1 Super Bowl roster. Andrew Luck was actually an incredible human being to Chris Ballard and Frank Reich because he just gave him a complete excuse for this long.
And Vinatieri left him, yeah.

Speaker 1 And Vinitieri left him high and dry. So we were talking about Coach Speak earlier.

Speaker 1 Frank Reich, I think, is officially on the hot seat, and there's nothing that tells you that more than the quotes that he had after the game.

Speaker 1 He said, we'll evaluate everything. That's a red flag.
When you have to evaluate everything, He said, plays, schemes, everything top to bottom. Big time red flag.
Here's the other red flag.

Speaker 1 He said, it was as pathetic, as pathetic as that was today, the distance between where we are and where we need to be isn't that far. That's a red flag.

Speaker 1 Basically being like, we're a couple plays away. Like we're doing the work.
We're going to be there.

Speaker 1 Just hold on. And then the last red flag was he talked about the practice intensity was at an all-time high this week.
Yeah, so

Speaker 1 the worst one. It's the worst one when your coach is like, you didn't see us practice.
We practice.

Speaker 1 We had a great week of practice. Anytime somebody says we had a great week of practice after a loss, that means that they actually did not have a great week of practice.

Speaker 1 They're just a bad team that was practicing against themselves. And the other side of their team is also bad, which made their team look good in practice.

Speaker 1 And they were also just practicing, like, you can practice hard.

Speaker 1 and be like the intensity was great and then when we got out to the field we were like oh shit we suck yeah so i don't don't know who to give the Dan Quinn Memorial look in the mirror award to.

Speaker 1 I actually think it's Reich.

Speaker 1 I think Reich's doing the whole, like, we're going to evaluate everything. Evaluate everything's a bad thing.

Speaker 1 If he said, we don't have any starters going into next week, every spot's up for competition. Yeah.
That's actually worse. Yeah.
Because when coaches say that, first of all, they never believe it.

Speaker 1 They're just saying that because they don't have any other excuse to use. So they're saying, they're blaming everyone.
Right. When you do that excuse.
It's like, it's everyone's fault but mine.

Speaker 1 yeah so the colts i don't know what like that i do think frank reich is now up there for coach to be fired first

Speaker 1 i don't know if ursay fires coaches midseason does he

Speaker 1 um

Speaker 1 he seems like a guy he seems like a guy that would wait until he might wait but i feel like he

Speaker 1 i'm trying to think of who would be the coaches they get shut out again yeah i mean getting shut out in today's nfl is crazy they had 10 possessions today offense five turnovers, five punts.

Speaker 1 Who do they have next?

Speaker 1 It's bad. That was a really, really bad game for them.

Speaker 1 Chiefs.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 1 But it's all Titans, Broncos. It's tough.
Wow.

Speaker 1 Who else would be on the list for coaches that could be fired? Hot seat already? Hot seat already. No, we got to talk hot seat already.
Okay. All right.

Speaker 1 Maybe Hackett. Oh.

Speaker 1 Maybe Hackett. We'll get to that.
Matt Ruhl. 100% hot seat.
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Fired.

Speaker 1 He might be the answer. Already fired.
He might be. We'll get to him in a second.
He's the next game. We should at least say the Jaguars looked good.
Trevor Lawrence had...

Speaker 1 Welcome to the NFL, Trevor Lawrence. Apparently, it takes 19 games.
He was 25 for 30 for 235 yards, two TDs, looked comfortable, made all the throws. Welcome to the NFL.
Congrats to Chaps. Yeah.

Speaker 1 When we had the guy talk, A day like today can buy a Jaguars fan a few months on the rest of the season. He's the guy.

Speaker 1 Rest of the season, because you knew going into this year that, like, okay, you got a brand new coach. His job is just to unlock, just to activate Trevor Lawrence.
Right.

Speaker 1 And so as long as Trevor Lawrence gets activated at some point this year and shows you glimpses of guy, then that's a winning season right there. Yeah.
Win losses don't really matter.

Speaker 1 You just want to see a few games from Trevor Lawrence where he has stat lines that say things like 300 some yards. Three touchdowns, one interception.
Yeah, five incompletions.

Speaker 1 You want some of those stat lines. You want maybe a couple, two touchdowns, zero interception games.
You don't want anywhere it's lopsided, where it's like one touchdown, three interceptions.

Speaker 1 But you want to see those stat lines. As long as you get those out of your quarterback, then you're happy going into next year.
Agreed. And yeah, so

Speaker 1 if you're the Jaguars, that was a very fun game.

Speaker 1 Their defense was flying around. Their defense was fucking all up in Matt Ryan's shit.
And yeah, be happy. You win.
You beat the Colts every year.

Speaker 1 And you might, you might, if you actually, because the craziest thing is the Jaguars don't beat the Colts in Indianapolis.

Speaker 1 I actually would say if the Jaguars beat the Colts in Indianapolis this year, that might be the one that gets Frank Wright fired. Yeah.
That might be it. The sweep.
I agree with that.

Speaker 1 Here's a spin zone, though, for a Colts fan. So

Speaker 1 the fact that you lost 24 to nothing actually saved Jonathan Taylor. And you didn't have him running the ball 31 times.
Right. So this was it.

Speaker 1 He needed a rest because any game that you guys are remotely close in, you're going to give him the ball between 25 and 35 times. Right.
So this is good. It's a bye week for Jonathan Taylor.

Speaker 1 He only had nine attempts today, so that's good. That was huge.

Speaker 1 Okay, speaking of coaches getting fired, Giants, Panthers. And then we will be to our afternoon slate.

Speaker 1 Giants, Graham Ganneau, revenge game. He hits a 56-yarder.
He also hit a 51-yarder.

Speaker 1 The Giants are kind of fun. They play with energy.
I don't want to, like,

Speaker 1 the Joe Judge, early Joe Judge days, it felt similar. I don't think they ever started 2-0, but I do think this is different because they're playing with energy.
It feels like they're buying in.

Speaker 1 Daniel Jones, I still, there's still times in the game where you're like, what are you doing, dude? But they're 2-0. You can't apologize for being 2-0.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 Listen, I am not a believer in the Giants, but I like Brian Dable. Yeah, and they fly around.
I think they're going to win more games than they should because they do have that energy.

Speaker 1 And also, Brian Dable is in the position where he's waited a long time to become a head coach, and he's absolutely loving every second of it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He's actually enjoying being on the sidelines because I think some coaches they get on the sidelines and they're not as prepared as they think that they're going to be.

Speaker 1 And we can get to that in a little bit, even though they might have good ideas offensively. And be great interviews on the show.
And be great interviews and nice guys and almost doctors.

Speaker 1 Brian Dable seems like he was ready to be a head coach, where he's like keeping his cool for in-game decisions

Speaker 1 and getting to enjoy himself when he's there.

Speaker 1 I also like that he's wearing the FDNY hat even after the week where the NFL allowed you to do that because it's going to force Roger Goodell into a hilarious position where he has to be like, hey,

Speaker 1 listen, the NFL, we love firefighters,

Speaker 1 but I have to fine you for wearing that hat. And Goodell always gets like timid and nervous about it.

Speaker 1 And then they'll probably end up doing like a week where it's like, okay, for this week, coaches get to make their own hats that they get to wear.

Speaker 1 And you can wear whatever mission statement on a hat that you want.

Speaker 1 He's going to force his hand. He's going to force his hand on this one.
But they look good. And I also like Brian Dable appealing to the fans.
He said,

Speaker 1 driving over

Speaker 1 here from the facility, looking at all the tailgates, all the beverages, and all the games they were playing, they were pretty rocked up today. Love it.
So shout out to Giants fans

Speaker 1 for getting rocked up in the pregame.

Speaker 1 They passed the eye test to me, where they're not obviously the most talented team, and they're not a finished product. No Giants fan would say that.
But when you see a team

Speaker 1 run to the ball, fumbles, special teams,

Speaker 1 like some of those big third and eight, we find a way to do it plays. It's like, oh, yeah, they're kind of buying in here, and they're getting, they're maxing out what their talent is.

Speaker 1 They're playing hard, yeah. Right.
So, that's, I think, just through week two, I'm ready to say that I'm a believer in Brian Dable as a head coach.

Speaker 1 And I'm a believer in the Giants with a couple bounces here and there being like a borderline playoff. Yeah, they can be feisty.
Yeah, they do play the Cowboys.

Speaker 4 They're gonna be a schedule game. Yeah, home against the Cowboys.
So, Cooper Rush on Monday night, and then Sarah Bitcott home against the Bears.

Speaker 4 They'll have a chance in

Speaker 1 throwback uniforms. That'll be the frisky bowl off.

Speaker 4 Yeah, and then I believe they go to London against the Packers.

Speaker 1 The Packers, yeah.

Speaker 1 And then the other side, the Panthers. I mean, Matt Rule, just put him out of his misery.
He wants to go coach college again. He's 10 and 25 as a head coach.
The Panthers are officially in the

Speaker 1 red zone big play,

Speaker 1 big error team, where they'll have one huge play where Christian McCaffrey or Robbie Anderson or someone like, he'll throw, Baker Mayfield will hit him deep down the field and then they'll have a play where it's like oh uh kickoff and somehow five guys on their team touch the ball and they all fumble yeah if you're Matt Rule you should probably want to get fired yeah you can get an interview at Nebraska yeah why not that should be your mission actually like go out there he you know what he should do he should go out run the triple option like the old school Nebraska offense like fullbacks and shit and then use that as your audition tape for getting at least your foot in the door and then get fired on Tuesday Tuesday and then get on a flight for Lincoln immediately.

Speaker 1 That's what you should be doing right now. Yeah, because someone else is going to get that job if you don't act.

Speaker 1 We have advanced analytics on this show. A lot of times we'll talk about the fear of

Speaker 1 a quarterback dropping back and having time. Like if Mahomes has time, you're fucked.
If Tom Brady has time, you know he's hitting someone. Baker, I'm at like a 1.5 out of 10.

Speaker 1 When he has a ton of time, I'm like, this is probably going to be overthrown somewhere. I'm ready to do the excuse making for Baker, though.
Yeah. Because I kind of feel bad for him.

Speaker 1 I don't know why I feel

Speaker 1 bad for Baker. Well, because we know him and we like him.
We root for him. But I'm just saying,

Speaker 1 he'll have a couple times where he'll have a very clean pocket or he'll have a rollout. And I'm not like, uh-oh, here comes a huge play.
You know why? Because I'm going to do this.

Speaker 1 I'm going to say, I'm going to do the weapons defense.

Speaker 1 I don't think he has any weapons, big cat. Christian McCaffrey, that's his only weapon.
Robbie Anderson. Robbie Anderson.
Robbie Anderson's hair is too weird to be a weapon. Okay.
It's unsettled.

Speaker 1 Giovanni Ritchie. It's a real guy.
Fantasy fuckboy or Carolina Panther. Giovanni Richie.

Speaker 1 I'm not a believer in Gio.

Speaker 1 Giovanni Richie. And G.
Rich.

Speaker 1 Where the hell? Oh, yeah, he is a Giovanni Ritchie. Looks like a nice, strong Italian.
He's a fullback.

Speaker 1 Then I like him. I'm not a believer in Robbie Anderson just because Robbie Anderson's not a believer in Baker Mayfield.
Was Robbie Anderson the one who was just fucking his girlfriend on camera?

Speaker 1 In a car. In a car.
Yeah, yeah, he was fucking his girl in a car. Yeah, that's right.
That one I just completely forgot about.

Speaker 1 He was on the Jets then. It's quite a visual.
That was a Jets. That was a very Jets story.

Speaker 1 That's not a Panthers story. No.
That's a Jets story. No, if he's on the Panthers, he's definitely...
No. No.
No, definitely not.

Speaker 1 I was going to say something, but then it's too soon for Ray Crew jokes. Yeah.
Yeah. Always too soon for Ray Crew jokes.

Speaker 1 But yeah, Baker, I should actually release, maybe I'll do a whole release of the scared, one to zero to ten scared of a quarterback when they have a completely empty, you know, like no, no pressure,

Speaker 1 five seconds plus.

Speaker 1 He just doesn't, it doesn't scare me. Actually, Daniel Jones, I'm a little bit afraid of Daniel Jones.
A little bit of time. He's like a 4.5.

Speaker 1 I'm not as afraid of Daniel Jones when he's rolling out on a bootleg and he's actually trying to evade a defensive lineman while processing a play and throwing.

Speaker 1 But if he's got time and he's comfortable, yes, I'm afraid of Daniel Jones. Yeah, like ask me a quarterback.

Speaker 1 Jared Goff. Jared Goff is actually like a five and a half.

Speaker 1 When he has a clean pocket and he's got a little time, he'll hit someone. Mitch.

Speaker 1 Like a three?

Speaker 1 Jameis.

Speaker 1 Jameis.

Speaker 1 I'd say like eight with Jameis. Jameis is a floating scale.
Jameis is like a two to eight, and it just goes, you don't know.

Speaker 1 I'd say eight because when he starts to do the thing where he's going downfield, like you're fucked. Yeah.
Kirk Cousins. Kirk Cousins is surprisingly high.

Speaker 1 Kirk Cousins would be like a seven because that's not when Kirk Cousins, like Kirk Cousins' problem is when there's any little bit of rush.

Speaker 1 But when Kirk Cousins has time, he'll actually, maybe I shouldn't say seven, like maybe a five and a half because he also will just check down very quickly if he doesn't see it.

Speaker 1 For me, Kirk's back up to like an eight. Yeah, the Kirk Cousins people, Monday night is going to be interesting.
I think I'm back.

Speaker 1 I'm just Jesus Christ. I hate him.
Listen, I hate the motherfucker.

Speaker 1 I wish I had never met Kirk Cousins. He's a nice guy.

Speaker 1 But as far as like on-the-field play, like I've always,

Speaker 1 I haven't always, but in the last like six years, I've turned very sour. I've become a doubter.

Speaker 1 I think he's one of those guys that's been activated.

Speaker 1 He, the problem with Kirk Cousins is: well, you could just have the argument forever with Kirk Cousins defenders because the stats will always back up the defenders and the eyeballs will always back up people who are like, dude, he's not going to win a Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 I actually probably hate Kirk Cousins more than anybody else in the media. And now I'm like, I think I like Kirk Cousins again.
Yeah. Yeah, you're back on him.
Okay, let's do afternoon games.

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Speaker 1 Okay. Afternoon games.
Rams 31. Falcons 27.
The Rams almost Falconed against the Falcons,

Speaker 1 including being up 28-3.

Speaker 1 Crazy ending. That was a game that if you bet the Rams, you probably want to take a week off.
Yeah, so that's me. Yeah.
I had a couple of those this week. I was on the wrong side of several of those.

Speaker 1 In theory, I want to take... a week off, but in practice, we got two Monday night games tomorrow.
Two. We got to get back on that horse.
Yes.

Speaker 1 The Falcons, in a way, did Falcons after the Rams kind of took the Falcons' torch from them for a second. And it looked like the Falcons were going to come back.
Marcus Mariota needs to.

Speaker 1 Someone's got to teach him how to throw a Hail Mary. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Not a Hail Mary. Yeah, they need a backup.
Two very bad Hail Marys. They should put Desmond Ritter in for the Hail Marys.
Yes, I'd agree.

Speaker 1 It was like you saw just enough out of the Rams in the first three quarters. You're like, oh, the Rams are going to be fine.

Speaker 1 And then you saw just enough out of like the fourth quarter, you're like, oh, shit, this is kind of weird. And Matt Stafford won a Super Bowl.
I think he's a Hall of Famer.

Speaker 1 He's still, no matter what, this is why I like Matt Stafford. The guy still loves to throw a good interception.
He just does.

Speaker 1 You know, he loves to have one or two a game where he's just like, I'm just going to fucking throw it to the other team. Let's see how this goes.
Yeah, big catch. And usually it gets intercepted.

Speaker 1 If you're the Atlanta Falcons, and again,

Speaker 1 not to go right after Arthur Smith. He's our guy.
He's our guy, but he tells us to give them all the rat poison. He said, bury us.
Bury us after the games.

Speaker 1 How many times would you try to target Kyle Pitts? Oh, that's funny because I know the answer to this. It would be definitely more than seven in the first two games total.

Speaker 1 Yes, that's probably a good point. He targeted three times, three targets to Kyle Pitts, who's

Speaker 1 frankly unstoppable. Well, here's a

Speaker 1 spin zone for the Falcons. Drake London, their wide receiver they drafted out of USC.
He's awesome. So maybe Arthur Smith just doesn't realize you can throw it to both of them.

Speaker 1 Yeah, so Drake had 12 targets. Yeah, right.
So I think he just will figure it out. Like, Arthur, you're listening to this.
Like, it's not an either-or situation. Yeah, and both can get targets.

Speaker 1 He also said, we're not playing fancy football. We're trying to win out there.
Right. That's a fair statement to make.

Speaker 1 But you can also sometimes lose if you don't target your players who happen to get a lot of fancy points when they make catches.

Speaker 1 That's a very easy way to not generate enough offense and score real points. Yeah, listen, we don't know a ton about football compared to these coaches.

Speaker 1 So let's just say, Arthur, maybe just follow in the footsteps of Mike McDaniels, who's like, hey, throw ball to fast guy, let fast guy do fast things. You can also...
Game gets one.

Speaker 1 So you can also do that, but substitute the word fast for big and fast and fast

Speaker 1 is also fast but also like the big end bigger and fast guy yes you can throw past him yes score i i think it's also uh

Speaker 1 look as long as the falcons the falcons are going to be okay long term as long as they know that marcus mariota is not the guy

Speaker 1 going back to the this is a big guy guy talk this is the guy episode but this is one of those situations mark marcus mariota will do just enough where you're like oh this is kind of cool but you got to be like hey we still need to find our franchise quarterback and if they are in that mode they'll be okay because drake london is very good calvin ridley when he comes back is very good kyle pitts is very good their defense they have they have a couple guys on defense that like they're they're not the falcons it doesn't feel like they're the falcons from the last couple years where it was like yeah they they just suck and they'll they'll win a couple games but they just don't have like enough people out there yeah

Speaker 1 They were, I mean, yeah, maybe I'm wrong because maybe it was just a flash in the pan fourth quarter. But I think they'll be competitive in games.
So

Speaker 1 they might be. But if they're not, and this is a big if, if things start to go south, Arthur,

Speaker 1 you should just put Desmond Ritter in in the second half of the season. Yeah.
Have him

Speaker 1 throw to Kyle Pitts a few times. And Drake Lund.
Maybe you cover a few spreads at the end of those games. Maybe you win one or two of them, and then you you have momentum that you have to stick.

Speaker 1 You can't get rid of me because me and Desmond River, we got a thing going on. Bring me back for next year.
You cover a couple spreads. Calvin Ridley's happy now.
There you go. Whole thing.

Speaker 1 And then next year, it's like, wow, synergy. Yeah.
Kyle Pitts, by the way, 246 pounds, 4-4-40. Jesus Christ.

Speaker 1 He's fast and big. It's not fantasy football, big game.
It's not fantasy football. Listen, as much as you'd like to get the ball to your dynamic playmakers, sometimes.

Speaker 1 Sometimes you have Marcus Mariota as your quarterback. You know what? Spin zone, I think Arthur Smith Smith is doing a great job of not throwing Marcus Mariota under the bus.
Yeah. That's true.

Speaker 1 You know what he's doing? He's saying the like

Speaker 1 blame me thing without actually saying the words blame me. Correct.

Speaker 1 He's being more of a leader than Kevin Stefansky. Yeah.
How about that? So Arthur Smith, well done. But just maybe give him the ball like two or three more times.
Yeah, maybe four or five more times.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's big. Seven targets in two games.
Big guy. Fast guy.
And again, Tyreek Hill and Jalen Waddell had 32 targets today. Jesus.
Yeah, it's so crazy. He really was playing Madden.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 He was just like, oh, he was playing Madden with like injuries

Speaker 1 and stamina off. Yeah, do you think that they got tired?

Speaker 1 Do you think Waddell or Hill got tired from just like running? I'd like to see the metrics on them because we did say that the Ravens defense, they ran like 6,000 yards.

Speaker 1 I want to know if Tyreek Hill ran for like sprinted a mile today. Yeah, he probably did.
He probably did. And also shout out Alan Robinson.

Speaker 1 Welcome to the Rams. Scored twice.
So that was nice. It felt like with Cam Akers and Allen Robinson, they were like, hey, we watched week one.
Those guys stunk. Let's try to get them the ball.

Speaker 1 Let's try to get them some carries. And we should say that Odell Beckham took his official recruiting visit to the Saints games.
To the Saints, yes. So he's taken his visit there.

Speaker 1 He's also visited with the Rams. We're waiting to see what the NIL packages that they put together with him come back as.

Speaker 1 Right now, I'd say that the Rams have the bigger hat on the table for when he does his announcement of where he'll be attending college. Yes, yes.
Okay, next game. 49ers Seahawks.

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 this is like the Billy Madison.

Speaker 1 Glad we kept that guy around. Jimmy G, Trey Lance, unfortunately,

Speaker 1 I think broke his ankle out for the year. That's brutal.
That just sucks because this was supposed to be the most important year probably of his career in terms of growth. Like, it's his team.

Speaker 1 He's given the shot. And it's gone five quarters into the season.
But if you have, if you, if you're talking about backups,

Speaker 1 can't be much worse than, like, or can't be much better, excuse me, than the guy who took you to the Super Bowl and also took you to the NFC Championship game last year. Guy?

Speaker 1 Well, that's been the question. He's good today.
He's shoulders better. He got his shoulder repaired.
That's been the question for Jimmy G for a long time.

Speaker 1 I would say Kyle Shanahan says he's not the guy. I think that with Jimmy G,

Speaker 1 he was kind of the starter of this team until he just wasn't all of a sudden. I think

Speaker 1 he didn't really play badly enough to get benched. He played poorly enough to get traded to be a starter somewhere else.
Right. And also

Speaker 1 it's like you're going to make somebody very happy one day, but you and I, we just don't have that. You're not the long-term solution for me.
Kyle Shanahan.

Speaker 1 I love you, but I'm not in love with you, is what Kyle Shanahan was saying to Jimmy G. Kyle Shanahan was basically like, like in a relationship with Jimmy G and the sex got stale.

Speaker 1 He's like, what if I got this new guy where we could do crazy shit together and throw the ball all the way downfield? Yeah. And then it turns out that the crazy chick actually went a little too crazy.

Speaker 1 And it's like, wow, I kind of missed the stability of Jimmy G now. Now, shout out.
Injury too. Well, that's it.
He went too crazy. Yeah.
He got wild with it.

Speaker 1 We don't injure it. No, injury shame.
No, never.

Speaker 1 But how bad does it suck for Jimmy G, kind of? Because he has to play this entire season at like a $10 million discount. Yeah.

Speaker 1 He's going to play essentially the same amount of time as he would have played under his old contract. But I think at the maximum with all the incentives, I think he's getting like 14 mil.
All right.

Speaker 1 So you're right. Like, it does suck because of the money.
But on the flip side, he gets to start for a team that he knows the offense, and that team is super talented.

Speaker 1 So they, I, I didn't know what Trey Lance was going to be. We saw him for one game in crazy conditions.

Speaker 1 I do think that like the Niners, I now put them back in the contender territory because I know what Jimmy G is and I know how good like Debo Samuel, this is just our weekly Debo Samuel fucking rocks because he does.

Speaker 1 And Kittle hasn't even played yet. Yeah.
So their Super Bowl has dropped. Like they're better now.
Yeah. Wait, they're higher? They improved.
They improved. From what to what?

Speaker 1 I think it was 20 to 1 to 18 to 1. That makes sense.
That's my initial thought when Jimmy G, when Trey Lance went down, I was like, I'm kind of like a long shot of the Niners. Go to the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 It might be very unfair for me to think this way about Trey Lance, but I just keep thinking back to last year, that game against the Cardinals. Do you remember that game? Yeah.
It was ugly.

Speaker 1 It was like,

Speaker 1 there were so many plays that Trey had in that game where it was like, okay,

Speaker 1 a good quarterback should be able to make a closer throw than that. You don't have to be perfectly accurate.

Speaker 1 And the thing that sucks with Trey Lance more than anything, and I really do mean this and I feel this, like, he hasn't played football. He played one season at North Dakota State.

Speaker 1 The COVID year, he played one game. Because remember, they had like the show game.
Then he sat and then he played for five quarters. Like he has thrown, I think I saw the stat.

Speaker 1 He's thrown like less than a thousand passes of like competitive football. That year it's crazy.
That year at North Dakota State, he was awesome. He was awesome.
He was so good.

Speaker 1 The championship game fucking pushed my shit into. Yeah.
But it sucks for him. It does.

Speaker 1 This was his year, and this was going to be the growth year where they were going to probably deal with some maybe bad performances, but get him to a place where he's third year, like everything's set for him, and now he's back to square one.

Speaker 1 It's brutal. So, was it a

Speaker 1 broken ankle? I think so. Achilles? Yeah, I think it was a broken ankle.
It's tough.

Speaker 1 Geno Smith. Yeah.
Did we write him off? Right,

Speaker 1 good game manager. He game managed.

Speaker 1 I think anytime... I think the barrier for game manager, like the quick eyeball test, I think he had 30 pass attempts in less than 200 yards.
That's usually a good sign that you're game.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he had he was 24 for 30 for 197 yards. That's the perfect game manager.
Here's a wild stat. He had an 80% completion rate.

Speaker 1 That's the highest in a game in which a quarterback's team did not score an offensive point since statistics were first tracked. Damn.
So it's the best bad game of all time.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's what Geno did. Michael Jackson scored on a block kick touchdown.
I love that they have Michael Jackson. And you have to say his full name every time.
And

Speaker 1 maybe Geno Smith might not be the guy when Pete Carroll was was like trying so hard to make things happen that he had that DJ Dallas trick play that was one of the worst interceptions ever.

Speaker 1 He just was like, I have the ball. I have to get rid of it.
Here, you take it, 49er. Yeah.
And he just threw it right like five yards away from him. Just threw it right in his hands.

Speaker 1 The crazy thing is, like,

Speaker 1 I kind of like how the 49ers look today. Dude,

Speaker 1 they looked like a very good footballer. They went back to looking like the 49ers where their defense is ferocious and they can run the ball.

Speaker 1 And Samuel, like Debo Samuel, every, I don't know, 20 minutes will do a play. We're like, whoa.
Yeah. What was that? Oh, it's Debo Samuel.
So I am feeling like a little upset that

Speaker 1 the stuff that Kyle Shanahan could do with Trey Lance in theory makes me perk up. My whole body gets a rush of blood.
I'm like, ooh.

Speaker 1 It's going back to the thing where it's like, imagine any quarterback in Kyle Shanahan's system, just imagine different players playing for Kyle Shanahan. We're talking a sex swing.

Speaker 1 We're talking all kinds of things.

Speaker 1 It makes me so, so horned up.

Speaker 1 And Trey Lance was a guy that had all those tools where I was actually eager to see how Kyle Shanahan's playbook would evolve to fit with Trey Lance over the course of whether it be like the next year, next two years.

Speaker 1 So it stinks. He wasn't there yet.
So when I'm saying, like, oh, I saw that game against Arizona, he had a lot to go. He had a long ways to go.
Right.

Speaker 1 But Trey Lance, when they drafted him, it's like, that's a guy that I do want to see do some weird shit in Kyle's system. Yeah, and it sucks.

Speaker 1 So

Speaker 1 Seahawks,

Speaker 1 they probably wish they could play Russell Wilson every week because that was all the energy. And then it's like, oh, yeah, this team's probably not good.

Speaker 1 The team that we all thought might win five games, that was the team that we saw today.

Speaker 1 DK had a sick catch today. He did.
He had a very sick catch.

Speaker 1 All right. Cowboys, Bengals.

Speaker 1 Uh-oh. Are the Cowboys better without Dak Prescott? Tomorrow and Undisputed.
Yeah. I was thinking about it.
The Cowboys had the perfect game plan for a backup quarterback.

Speaker 1 And we've seen this Cooper Rush. It's essentially you have to have the best

Speaker 1 15-play script for your backup quarterback, and if that can run perfectly, you can just hold on long enough to win the game. So, you get off to it.
Yeah, they had

Speaker 1 the first drive. Cooper Rush went 12 plays, 75 yards for a touchdown.
And then they were like, Let's just hold on and let our defense win this game. And their defense was all up in Joe Burrow's ass.

Speaker 1 Like,

Speaker 1 I think he had six sacks, but it felt like a million because every play Joe Burrow was running for his life. And now the Bengals,

Speaker 1 they revamped the offensive line, and it somehow is worse. 13 times he's been sacked in two weeks.

Speaker 1 So, how many, they spent like millions and millions of dollars on the offensive line this offseason, right?

Speaker 1 Yeah. And I agree with you.
It hasn't looked a single bit better. No, it's

Speaker 1 worse. It's looked pretty bad.
He got sacked, I think, 51 times or something last year. Right now, obviously, it's not going to stick this way.
He's on pace of being sacked 110 times.

Speaker 1 That's not a good start. 13 times in two weeks, the last time a guy played more than 10 games after being sacked 13 times in the first two weeks was David Carr in week two.
And he married me in 2005.

Speaker 1 That's the guy that we always point to and be like, this is how to fuck up a quarterback. And that's what's scary because we love Joe Burrow, but

Speaker 1 it's like criminal malpractice what they're doing with Joe Burrow right now and not being able to protect him. So Zach Taylor, he got a big contract extension too this offseason.
That's right.

Speaker 1 Yeah, Super Bowl hangover for the Bengals right now. The Cowboys, they did their 13-second spike thing again at the end of this game, but it worked.
This time it worked out.

Speaker 1 And Cooper Rush looked competent as well in the fourth quarter. He did.

Speaker 1 I don't want to be the guy that says, are they better without Dak, but I kind of am the guy. Oh, yeah, definitely.
Because it's so much fun to do. Well, because everyone else tries harder.

Speaker 1 And there was the quote quote that I jumped on where Mike McCarthy was like,

Speaker 1 Kellen Moore's got to play, like, do better as an offensive coordinator. And I jumped on it because I was like, oh, yeah, that's funny.
Mike McCarthy already blaming people.

Speaker 1 I then watched the press conference because I felt bad because I just saw the quote. He was basically saying, we don't have our starting quarterback.
Everyone has to be better. And that happened.

Speaker 1 Like, their defense was better. Everything was better.
They ran the ball better. All that stuff.
So, I don't know. Maybe the Cowboys.
I don't think it lasts.

Speaker 1 I think this is is that one-game bounce you get

Speaker 1 with a backup quarterback. But I'm more worried about Joe Burrow.

Speaker 1 And I don't know what it also is weird because last year they couldn't protect him, but they were like, fuck it, we'll throw deep anyway. Yeah.

Speaker 1 This year they can't protect him, and they're not saying, fuck it, we'll throw deep anyway. So they've got the Jets next week, which is good.
They got to get right. They got to get right.

Speaker 1 That's a good get-right game for him. Yeah, but I'm worried because he gets fucking killed every game.
Didn't they have that weird game against the Jets last year?

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was a weird, weird game.

Speaker 1 Billy, you remember that game? Billy's got a piece of net in his hat. For the championship.
I know, I like that. Didn't you apologize for winning that game? No.

Speaker 1 I thought that was the one that the Jets shouldn't have won against the Bengals. There was a

Speaker 1 loyalty. Yeah.

Speaker 8 Yeah. But we beat the Titans and the

Speaker 8 Bengals, so both AFC

Speaker 1 championship. Yeah, so the Cowboys right now, they stand at one and one.
They're tied with the Commanders in that division. And it looks like who they have next week? They got...

Speaker 1 Oh, they're at the Giants. Yeah.
Next week. That'll be a fun game to see

Speaker 1 if the Giants start 3-0 and they beat the Cowboys. I think they might.
I think the Giants will go 3-0. I agree.
But, yeah, I'm worried about Joe Burrow.

Speaker 1 And my last note on this game was Micah Parsons. I love whenever the hype is totally...
It's actually undersold how good he is. He's just a fucking game wrecker.
He's insane. He's all over the place.

Speaker 1 So he's back. He's like rushing the passer full time now, right? It's crazy.

Speaker 1 And then he will drop a couple, but like he's just so fucking good, and he's such a problem for everyone, especially an offensive line like the Bengal. And he's made me change my mind.

Speaker 1 You know, in Rocky, like if you can change and I can change, we all can change. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I think number 11 looks awesome on him. He looks fast.
Number 11 looks great. And I used to be like, oh, you can't have that if you're a defensive end or a linebacker.
He's changed my mind by himself.

Speaker 1 He looks awesome in it. Yeah.
All right. Last two games.
This one was crazy as well.

Speaker 1 this was the other one i i referenced it at the beginning of the the show two games where a team was down by 20 at half and came back and won the game cardinals raiders the pinky bull the raiders are officially my pinky team i don't know if we're gonna clap we clapping for that i guess i don't know i'm jake's just a positive guy so if the raiders win the super bowl i will cut off the tip of my pinky um

Speaker 1 i was

Speaker 1 Through the half, I was like, the Cardinals are the greatest pinky team. I'll never stress about them because they looked so fucking bad in that first half.

Speaker 1 And then Kyler, video game Kyler, showed up and he made play after play after play, including the two-point conversion where he ran 84.85 yards to get two yards. Quite literally, the video game play.

Speaker 1 It was crazy. It did look like you were playing Madden with Michael Vick.
And yeah, you were just running around and the defense was too slow to catch up to you. And there was nothing they could do.

Speaker 1 And you were making them dizzy. And then you get up to the line of scrimmage and you just run to the sidelines and nobody can beat you to the sideline.

Speaker 1 And and then just kind of walk into feed into the end zone, hand the ball to the official. Yeah.
It was crazy. So, yeah, 84 yards in 20 seconds, almost 85 yards.

Speaker 1 So, I saw that stat, and I thought, like, there's a chance I couldn't run 85 yards in 20 seconds. And he was just changing direction.
And he was running.

Speaker 1 He was like, he also stopped for a couple seconds, having gotten set his blocks up towards him. Yeah, right.

Speaker 1 He pointed in different directions for his receivers to run from like a flat-footed position.

Speaker 1 I think I could run 85 yards. But the fact that I had to sit and think about it just tells me like what a freak color Murray.

Speaker 1 It was crazy. He really did put the team on his back in that second half.
And the defense woke up. And I don't know what to make of the Raiders.

Speaker 1 Like you just, you couldn't have looked better in the first half. And then you just completely.
And Kyler looked like shit in the first half. Kyler looked like shit.

Speaker 1 The Raiders could do everything on offense. And then halftime came.
I don't know if the Raiders weren't able to keep up with their changes, but it just, it was crazy.

Speaker 1 It was two different halves were played. I also had the Raiders in this one.
I had a bad week.

Speaker 1 I was on the business end of a lot of these come from behind losses. And we had tough.

Speaker 1 We had the rare touchdown, needed touchdown in overtime to get the over with the Hunter Renfro's second fumble of the day. Yep.

Speaker 1 Getting the

Speaker 1 fumble return for a touchdown to end the game. And

Speaker 1 I thought for a second that he pulled a Deshaun Jackson on that return.

Speaker 1 Where he tossed the ball through the back of the end zone. I thought it was...
I don't think that they had a camera set up on the goal line, so we never got a real good shot at it.

Speaker 1 That's one thing that Bill Belichick will always be correct about. Like, the league makes how many billions of dollars per year, and we can't put a fucking camera on the goal line in every stadium.

Speaker 1 The new popular one with the Justin Fields play at the end of the Packers game is a microchip. In the ball, because I think he got in.
Yeah. Seven for 11.

Speaker 1 Like a pet yards. And an interception.
Like a lost pet. Yeah.
You think that would work? I do. Yeah, for sure.
They do it with, don't don't they do it with sprinters and shit? Yeah, I think the XS.

Speaker 1 Is that what VAR is?

Speaker 1 Yeah, kind of.

Speaker 1 They do it tennis. Yeah, tennis.
Hawkeye check out Hawkeye.

Speaker 4 They got rid of umpires besides the chair umpire in the US Open.

Speaker 1 Hawkeye technology is slick. Yeah.
Yeah. So Raiders dead.
Season over, officially. Who do they have next?

Speaker 1 This is going to make me nervous if they rattle off like six wins in a row because Derek Carr definitely has a.

Speaker 1 They're going to like win all their games titans Broncos Chiefs bye that's tough that is tough if I'll feel very comfortable if they go one and two there they're in the AFC West true so they're they've got several tough games well let's let's get to uh the last ball's here kids are back in school vacations are over and cozy season is officially on you know what that means bombas season is on bombas makes the most comfortable socks ever and they even make slippers tees underwear all crafted from premium materials perfect for this time of year and cozying up for football watching.

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Speaker 1 I don't think the Broncos are good.

Speaker 1 And Nathaniel Hackett, I like you, dude. You're a recurring guest.
You got to to figure out what's going on in that brain.

Speaker 1 Multiple. They got so bad with the delay of penalties, the Broncos crowd was chanting out the play clock.
Yeah, they were counting down the play clock. They were probably also calling out runner pass.

Speaker 1 I know that's a big thing for Russell Wilson. He asked everybody on the team to do that.

Speaker 1 Yeah, the stands should do that. Just help the defense.
Help key it out, identify it.

Speaker 1 That...

Speaker 1 play sequence where it was like third and inches and then he did like almost a jet sweep to the tight end yeah and then panicked on the sideline, stood next to Russell Wilson, and then was talking to somebody in his headset.

Speaker 1 I don't know what his workflow is. That's the thing.
Like, when I'm talking about Brian Dable being prepared for a game, Hackett seems like he doesn't...

Speaker 1 You're the one that should be making those decisions. You shouldn't be talking to somebody for that long.
I think he does too many analytics about it. Yeah.

Speaker 1 And then he's waiting for the people to crunch all the numbers and give them the decision to go for it or to kick a field goal.

Speaker 1 And by the time he sends his field goal unit out there, there's like 12 seconds left. Delay a game.
You got to streamline this shit, buddy. He had multiple delay of game penalties.

Speaker 1 He had 13 penalties total.

Speaker 1 Feels like, I don't know.

Speaker 1 He's got to have the game slow down for him. And he thought it would happen against the Texans.
Texans were kind of in this game till the very end.

Speaker 1 Also, Nathaniel Hackett, not to pick on him because we do like him. The last five times the Broncos have had goal to go, zero touchdowns.
Yes. That's hard to do.

Speaker 1 They're 0 for 6 in the red zone this year. That's hard to do.

Speaker 1 A couple fumbles, but also a couple weird play calls.

Speaker 1 And the greatest, the funniest part of this Broncos team, and I don't know what it's going to look like in a few months because maybe they just got to find their rhythm. But

Speaker 1 the key, if the Broncos were smart offensively, the irony of all this is they should just run the ball.

Speaker 1 What Russell Wilson wanted to go away from in Seattle and what Pete Carroll always wanted to do is establish a run. Their running backs are really good.

Speaker 1 They ran the ball 31 times for 149 yards today and Russell Wilson was 14 for 31 for 219.

Speaker 1 It was very clear running the ball was the key to them winning this game and it's just very funny that Russell Wilson is on a team where the strength of the team should be running the ball.

Speaker 1 Russell Wilson is also now getting booed in Denver. Oh.
They booed him. Uh-oh.
They booed him today.

Speaker 1 So they're turning on him a little bit. Yikes.
I mean their offense stinks right now. Yeah, their offense.

Speaker 1 And when you hire a guy that's supposed to be

Speaker 1 the offensive guru, and then you hire his quarterback, the franchise quarterbacks a lot of money.

Speaker 1 Although, people don't really talk about it that much, but Russell Wilson was like, he was their second choice. Yeah.
Aaron Rodgers. They wanted Aaron Rodgers.
They wanted Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 1 So Russell Wilson, like,

Speaker 1 kind of, kind of not even the guy that they wanted. Yeah.
And we're going to have to keep our eyes on Mills Mafia. Not the best game, but he'll have some games.

Speaker 1 And the Texans are going to be one of those.

Speaker 1 That tie, it bought us a couple weeks. Yeah.
Watch out for the Texans. They will win a game where they are 10-point underdogs this year.
I think they're going to win five games this year.

Speaker 1 Not a 10, but I'm saying they will be a game where they will be like 10, 12-point underdogs. They'll win the game.
They're probably going to beat the Colts again.

Speaker 1 Yeah, definitely going to beat the Colts. Well,

Speaker 1 they tied him, but they beat him. That was a win.
Yeah, that was a win. Also, last thing, Jerry Judy got hurt.
I tried to figure out how hurt he was.

Speaker 1 So I just searched Jerry Judy injury, and all I found was

Speaker 1 someone asked, How hurt is Jerry Judy? And then Evan17216107 replied, Can't be worse than Lance. My fantasy, done for.
Okay. So that was your Jerry Judy update.
That guy's

Speaker 1 imagine just going around on Twitter all day, just like replying to random other injuries, being like, Yeah, but why aren't we talking about Trey Lance? My fantasy team's fucked.

Speaker 1 I'm getting some reports back that it could be either his shoulder or his ribs. So that actually fits directly into your area of expertise.
My expertise, I'm going to say ribs.

Speaker 1 Possibly two injuries. Oh, yikes.
The double injury.

Speaker 1 Okay, those were our games. Great week.
Week two was action-packed. There were some stinkers, but holy shit,

Speaker 1 the Jets-Browns game, the Dolphins-Ravens game, the Cardinals-Raiders game, and even the Falcons-Rams. Those were all-time witching-hour gambling switches, crazy, crazy shit happening.

Speaker 1 Let's do Football Guy of the Week, and then we'll finish with who's back.

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Speaker 8 Our first football guy of the week is the Appalachian State coaching staff.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 8 So in the running up for their game against Troy coming off their big Texas A ⁇ M upstat,

Speaker 8 upset, they put a bunch of mousetraps all across their facility

Speaker 8 so that the players know not to take the cheese. In other words, staying focused and not letting the attention of oclades bite you.
So huge football guy move, kind of in the rat poison type vibe.

Speaker 8 Nick Saban.

Speaker 1 I just hope someone stepped on one of those right now.

Speaker 8 How funny.

Speaker 1 It would be so great. That is a Sean Payton move.
You should have put money in them.

Speaker 1 Yeah, yeah, that's nice. They did.
Or cheese. I would take the cheese.
Sean Payton, that's the year that he had the mousetrap set up.

Speaker 1 And he also showed his team videos of mice and rats getting killed by the mousetraps. I'm actually reminded.
I'm taking the cheese.

Speaker 1 I'm thinking about right now you could easily do like a human mousetrap for me if you just put like a piece of pizza in the kitchen here or like a candy. I got Mincy.

Speaker 1 I would 100% just be like, ooh, pizza. And then

Speaker 1 no,

Speaker 8 I put mousetraps in Mincy's freezer around his ice cream.

Speaker 1 Oh,

Speaker 1 that was smart.

Speaker 1 By the way, we will do college football talk. We'll do it on Wednesdays.
That's what we've done in the past. Memes pointed that out because these shows run long.

Speaker 1 So Wednesdays we will recap and maybe talk a little upcoming college football.

Speaker 8 Our second football guy is Ethan Glenn, a high school football player from Minnesota who was paralyzed and was on a ventilator. And his first words when he got off the ventilator was roll tide.

Speaker 1 Oh, very cool. Football guy.
Wait, Minnesota? Yep. P.J.
Fleck not doing his job. Should have been row the boat.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 What do you say?

Speaker 1 Never mind, you're right. What? I thought you meant like PJ Fleck's got to get him to Minnesota.

Speaker 1 No, but yeah, PJ Fleck's got to, I mean, everyone in Minnesota should be saying row the boat, not roll tide. Right.
That's a bad job by him. He's got to put a border around the state.

Speaker 1 Roll tide would also be a great vanity license plate for him to put on his wheelchair. Yes, definitely.

Speaker 8 Our third football guy is a UConn football fan who was in the stands in the fourth quarter while they were getting absolutely destroyed, and he threw up a four because it's the fourth quarter.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was awesome.

Speaker 8 He had a mask on.

Speaker 1 You always got to let them know. They were down fourth quarter.

Speaker 1 Now, to be fair, they were still covering. I think they were down 45 minutes.
Yes. I think that's 47 with a quarter spread.
47 with a a spread.

Speaker 1 So that throw up the four that actually meant something at that moment. Yep.
That's true.

Speaker 8 Our fourth football guy is TJ Watt. TJ Watt was on the sidelines.
He was injured and he still had his mouth guard on, even though he wasn't playing. Oh, hell yeah.
He was just chewing on it.

Speaker 8 A lot of people are saying, no, it's Invisalign. I'm like, no, that's a very expensive mouth guard that none of us can probably afford.

Speaker 1 I like that. I like that a lot.

Speaker 8 Those are football guys of the week. Good job, Billy.

Speaker 1 How much is an expensive mouth guard?

Speaker 8 I mean, you can get those custom ones that these guys wear that you can talk with and they protect your teeth and they're like, I don't know, like 300, 400 bucks.

Speaker 8 Which for like a pro player, it's like easy money.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's like the anti-concussion mouth guards that don't really do anything. Yeah.
But they tell you they do. Are we sure it was Invisalign?

Speaker 8 Why would he have Invisalign on?

Speaker 1 Well, maybe he's trying to get his teeth fixed. Yeah, it would make more sense than that.
But he wouldn't be chewing on his Invincible.

Speaker 1 That would fuck it up.

Speaker 8 Because that's even more expensive. That's true.

Speaker 1 Okay. Hopefully that doesn't come back to bite you.
That was good football guys, though. Perfect.
I think he's right. Yeah.
I think it was a a mouth guard as well.

Speaker 1 Okay, let's wrap up. Who's back of the week?

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Speaker 1 Let's start with actually Billy because I'm assuming Billy, your who's back is going to be the water dogs. We should talk about it.
Championship. Champions.
Champions. We did it.
I mean,

Speaker 1 what a moment.

Speaker 1 Did the guys...

Speaker 1 The guys were hyped. I bought them beers.
Yeah, they were hyped. Okay, happy.
Okay. So.
Did they know that we're the owners?

Speaker 8 Yes. I told them that I was with ownership representation.

Speaker 1 Yep.

Speaker 8 And I said, these are the owners.

Speaker 1 What a random picture for that shirt. I know Welker.
That was a Welker special. So

Speaker 1 I was like, I need a picture of me, hanking PFT, and that was the one. As owners, can we sell the team like right now? Yeah, because this is probably the most valuable they're ever going to be.

Speaker 1 Yeah, can we do it? Or can we do like what the Marlins do, where they win a title and then they immediately sell all their best players? Yeah, we should. Can we do that? Fire sale?

Speaker 1 Let's sell them all.

Speaker 8 Really quickly, I have a piece of the net from the championship I wanted to bring to you guys.

Speaker 1 We'll put it up in the studio. That's awesome.
Thank you. I saw you cut the net.

Speaker 1 It was a great game. Yeah, was it awesome? It was a great game afterwards.
I mean,

Speaker 1 you were like spraying champagne with him.

Speaker 8 No, no, I was getting sprayed. Okay.
It was kind of one of those moments where it was like, I haven't really won this championship.

Speaker 1 No, you're part. You're part ownership.
Yeah, no, you were ownership representative. It's like in Arrested Development where they send the surrogate.
Yeah, that's kind of what you were doing.

Speaker 8 But they were really great and inclusive with the championship celebration. It was awesome.

Speaker 1 It was the six inside. Yeah.

Speaker 8 They were just like, I've never seen that.

Speaker 1 Cigars, but then the six.

Speaker 1 Well, the Canadians, bro.

Speaker 8 There's so many Canadians on the team, and they're just like, yo, let's start ripping some heaters.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I love them. I'm just like, okay.

Speaker 8 And they're like, here, take one. And I was like, okay, I'll rip it here.

Speaker 1 I am very proud of the Water Dogs. Clip that, send that out.
I'm very proud of them. They were,

Speaker 1 you know, tested all year. It's not often that you can beat a team in the championship that's four and eight, but we did.

Speaker 1 And so you're proud of it. It was us against the world.
Yeah. Like, seriously, think about it.
Like, everybody said last year, oh, the Water Dogs, you guys choked.

Speaker 1 You were the number one seed overall. This year, we took a different approach.
We were much worse in the regular season. And then we just counted on catching fire in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 But not as bad as the Chaos. But not as bad as the Chaos who were 4-8, and they made the playoffs when they were 2-8, actually.
Yeah. So a 2-8 team.

Speaker 1 We beat a 2-8 team is the more correct way to say it.

Speaker 4 We beat the defending champion.

Speaker 1 Oh, defending champion.

Speaker 1 With a fat goalie in the team. He's one of the best goalies in the hangover.
Yeah, but he's a big goalie. We didn't say he was a bad goalie.
We said he was a fat goalie.

Speaker 1 Fat goalies are good in the game. Yeah, probably.
He's fatter, actually. Yeah.
Maybe he would have stopped a couple more shots. Also, Billy, we got a report from the ground.
Do you want to hear it?

Speaker 1 Okay. Erica texted PFT and I and said, uh, thanks for letting Billy go.
They were great. Congrats.

Speaker 1 And then she said, the amount of people in my DM saying how hot Billy is is alarming, on the other hand. What? Yeah.
Yeah. And I replied, they don't know his personality.

Speaker 8 It was a very hot day out. I was sweating.

Speaker 1 Billy, you got some. You got some.
You got some group. Oh, the guys invited me to shower with him.

Speaker 1 The guys invited me to shower with him. They're like, Erica didn't say if it was guys or just hot.

Speaker 8 They said, hop in the shower. Let's go.

Speaker 1 Billy, I'm trying to pump you up dude that's a nice thing i like it's nice to be like hey people were like hey that guy's attractive that's cool billy did that that's awesome i like when that happens to me it never does

Speaker 1 their selly was get billy in the shower is that what you're saying it was just did you get in the shower i i almost did i was like you know what oh that's their championship the championship shower is probably so funny do you think our players were deeming erica saying how hot he is we're gonna get this guy in the shower uh just wanted to shout out some guys who really showed out michael sowers mvp dogs ryan Conrad, dog.

Speaker 8 Jack Hanna, dog.

Speaker 1 Dog. Drew Snyder?

Speaker 1 Dog. Dog.

Speaker 1 Ewing Theory.

Speaker 1 Connor Kelly, dog.

Speaker 8 Dylan Ward, playoff MVP. Goalie made some huge stops, was instrumental in the win.
It was a shootout.

Speaker 1 It was 11-9. We watched the whole game.
It was amazing. It was a great game.
We literally watched the whole game.

Speaker 8 I was like, at one point, there was a ton of action. I was trying to watch the end of the Jets game at the same time, and it was a lot.

Speaker 1 It was very stressful. Yeah.
Yeah. It was.
Thank you for your your service. Thanks, Billy.
We appreciate you going. And thank you for coming back sober.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 What a shock and what a real treat this is.

Speaker 8 I had so much alcohol on me that I didn't drink that I was scared driving back, like trying to explain to like if I ever got pulled over, like reeking of champagne.

Speaker 1 Like I didn't consume any of it.

Speaker 8 It's just all over me.

Speaker 1 Right. Yeah.
You could just do a breathalyzer. That's one way to just be like, hey.
Did you get a picture with the trophy? Yes. Fucking troll.
That's on their Instagram. Yeah.

Speaker 1 There are some good pictures of Billy with the trophy.

Speaker 1 I'm proud of how you represented us today, Billy. This is a big moment in

Speaker 1 earning trust, building trust with us. Yes.
So thank you, even though we.

Speaker 8 Well, I didn't tell you about what happened getting home. So I got trapped in a parking garage.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you sent us that video.

Speaker 8 Yeah, it was like five floors, and we couldn't get out because it turns out it was

Speaker 8 yesterday, Sunday, was Mexican Independence Day.

Speaker 1 Friday. Friday.
Yeah. But there was their celebration.
It's the weekend. Yeah, yeah.
It's kind of like how you treat

Speaker 1 St. Patrick's Day.
Right. Yeah.
Right. It's kind of the same thing going on.

Speaker 1 Also,

Speaker 1 I told the Water Dogs before this game: game, if you win, I'm going to adopt my next dog. Nice.
Not buy it from a puppy mill. So

Speaker 1 they saved a life. Yeah.
Big team. Congrats.
Very good boys. Very good boys.
Proud of the Water Dogs. They were.

Speaker 8 They think I'm really soft because I turned down a lot of partying.

Speaker 1 All right, now you're moving on pretty thick here, Billy. All right.
You're now

Speaker 1 partying. They were trying to kill ours.

Speaker 1 They won a championship. They were partying hard.

Speaker 8 I've never seen a group of guys going that hard.

Speaker 1 They won a championship. They should go that hard.

Speaker 1 These dudes were going real hard.

Speaker 1 The Canadians are wild. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I think we should get more Canadians on our team next year. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I like the wild card element that they add to it. When I Venmo'd for the beer, were they like, that was too much or too little?

Speaker 8 They were so happy.

Speaker 1 Okay, good.

Speaker 1 I was debating in my head.

Speaker 8 Steve Napoleon? Yeah. Dog.

Speaker 1 Dog. Dog.
He's the one I Venmo'd. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 They were going nuts. And I was like, this could just be a Billy Berner.
And you got me. Real good.
How was the coach?

Speaker 1 He was very dog. Dog, dog.
Copeland. Yeah.
Dog. Copeland.

Speaker 1 We're pronouncing the D now because they do play D. Yeah.

Speaker 1 We didn't for a while there when they sucked.

Speaker 4 Well, there is no D in his name.

Speaker 1 It's Copeland. No, no, no.
It's Copeland. No, it was the Water Oggs.
Yeah, and it was Copeland,

Speaker 1 and now it's Copeland.

Speaker 4 So I feel like if you respected him after Winnie Doll, you would call him by his correct name.

Speaker 1 No, no, no. He gets a D.
Okay. For being a dog.
You know what? Or and D.

Speaker 1 Copeland. That was his first name? Yeah.
I went over to. I don't really like that first name.
He's got to change it. I went over to Fat Goalie's job next time.

Speaker 1 I went over to the Fat Goalie's house just like a couple hours ago. I was thirsty.
And I was like, can I have a drink? He's like, no, I can't pour you any. You know why?

Speaker 1 What? Because he doesn't have any cups. Oh!

Speaker 1 Was the trophy a cup? No.

Speaker 1 Come on, Rabel. What the fuck, Rabel? What do we have?

Speaker 8 It's like a stick.

Speaker 1 Kind of. Yeah.
Need a cup. Need a cup.
cup.

Speaker 8 They have a cup person. They have a person who carries it around with the white gloves.

Speaker 1 Okay, nice. Yeah.
Shout out Paul Rabel for getting us involved in this. I never thought we'd win a championship as owners, but here we are.
We got to get a banner. We got to make rings.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 We're going to make rings. For sure.
For sure.

Speaker 8 Shout out Dukes and Jordy and Mackenzie Lozano.

Speaker 1 Okay. Any more shout-outs? I like them.
Are they dogs? Dogs. Dogs.
All of them. Dogs.

Speaker 1 All right. Hank.

Speaker 1 My who's back of the week is Dennis Schroeder. Great job, Billy.
Great job. Thanks, good job.
I'm worried about saying great job because usually it goes the other way, but I'm saying it. Great job.

Speaker 1 Proud of you. Dennis Schroeder is my who's back of the week.
Oh. If you guys remember, I think it was a year ago in some change.
He turned down an $84 million contract with the Lakers. Set on himself.

Speaker 1 Because he said he doesn't fit their system.

Speaker 1 He just signed a $2.6 million contract to join the Lakers. That fits their system now.
All-time bag fumble by him.

Speaker 1 That's tough.

Speaker 1 And he's he's back. And, I mean, it's been announced.
I don't know if we talked about it on the show, but the Pat Beverly podcast is going to be a Barcelona podcast with Roan.

Speaker 1 Their roster just makes no sense. Like, it is set up for absolute an unbelievable amount of chaos.
No, it's LeBron's playing fantasy basketball. But

Speaker 1 he already has his replacements. Right, but it's the names that he has.
Like, he's handcuffed Russ with. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But they lead the league in names that you recognize. Dwight Howard.
Yeah. Pat Beverly.
Russell Westbrook. It's going to be fun.
Is Carmelo still there? Probably. But he probably will be.
My PS Help.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 1 Stay Mellow. All right, PFT, your who's back.

Speaker 1 I was going to do Urban Meyer, but we can talk about him on Wednesday for college football winter. Nebraska, yep.
But he's probably going to be the head coach in Nebraska by then. Scares me.

Speaker 1 So I kind of love it. No, I mean, it scares me, though, yeah.
I love it. More Urban Meyer.
Because they do

Speaker 1 Urban Meyer Redemption Tour. I can't wait for it.
He's learned very valuable lessons in the last seven months.

Speaker 1 So my who's back of the week instead is going to be people getting clout off soup. So it's soup season coming again for me.

Speaker 1 And if you're a real brothhead, you know that there's no soup season because you have different types of soup in the summertime. But I've seen soup memes going viral left and right now.

Speaker 1 I feel like people are getting locked and loaded to just fire off a bunch of soup tweets, a bunch of soup pictures, and just steal everybody's soup memes. The George Costanza soup season.

Speaker 1 Beware of the people that are firing these memes into your life because they're they're not real soup boys and they're just using it for the clout.

Speaker 1 And it's offensive to me as a lifetime soup fan, quite frankly. So just watch out for those people because they don't actually love soup.
So I'm getting mad about it.

Speaker 1 I'm getting pre-mad because I've seen a couple people do it already. I've got my eyes on you.
Name names. No, I'm not going to name names.

Speaker 1 I've got my eyes on you if you're using soup, if you're using my culture for retweets. Okay.

Speaker 1 Just know that. Watch out.
Yeah, there's an eyeball.

Speaker 1 All right, my who's back is Dabbo.

Speaker 1 I hadn't seen it in a while, but his run is just the most ridiculous thing ever. Did you see the clip from the other night? Yeah, he's pretty quick.

Speaker 1 I actually, I timed it from the goal line out to the 40. Yeah.
I've got him clocked in at a 4-7. It's, if you haven't seen it, just search Dabo.

Speaker 1 He's just, it's all about Dabo. He runs out so fast in front of the team where it's just him on the field by himself.
And I just, The guy is like a narcissist to the nth degree, but he wins.

Speaker 1 So it doesn't, you can't really say anything about him. I also just like to point out that there's a significant hill that he's just run down.

Speaker 1 So he's got, he still has that speed left over from the hill. That's not all Dabo speed.
The clip, though, is fast.

Speaker 1 He's fast, but it's just so funny where it's just like, and here's the Dabo Clemson Tigers, and it's just Dabo. And then the team comes like 15 seconds later.

Speaker 1 Okay, Jake, finish us off.

Speaker 1 We will talk to Max. Max won.
Max is actually going to be on the show on Wednesday. He was going to be on the show win or lose.
Thank God he won. Unbelievable.
Unbelievable.

Speaker 4 Epic 70 second hole. We were watching it together.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we talked about it. Unreal.
Yeah, so we'll talk to him about it on Wednesday. So tune in on Wednesday.

Speaker 4 That was Unreal. My who's back is a record watch.
Aaron Judge. Yeah.
Two more home runs today. He's at 59.
Too shy of Roger Marist. These final two weeks got to be locked in.

Speaker 4 Even if you're not a Yankee fan, this is history.

Speaker 4 61 home runs. The Yankee record.

Speaker 1 And the non-steroid record.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 what? Pools. And pools.

Speaker 1 Now he's throwing a meatball. That's exciting.
Now, here's... That's not exciting.
Aaron Judge.

Speaker 1 Like, he's going to

Speaker 1 second place. Here's the thing.
He's given second place trophies? No, it wouldn't even be second place. Has anybody started the witch hunt on Aaron Judge yet? What's

Speaker 1 celebration for? Should there be an asterisk on these home runs for Aaron Judge because of how close the right field wall is in the Yankee Stadium?

Speaker 4 Well, the two today, we're not.

Speaker 1 Regardless, Jake, don't let the facts get in the way of a take on this one. Let's just have the conversation.
How many home runs would Roger Maris have hit if he played in this Yankee stadium?

Speaker 1 The launching run.

Speaker 4 But plenty of players have gotten to 700. If he can get to 61, no non-cheater has gotten past that.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Do we know that he's clean? As of now, this is a bad thing. Sammy never did anything either.

Speaker 1 You can't prove it. Let me see your pulling,

Speaker 1 Judge.

Speaker 4 Yeah, so 59 right now.

Speaker 1 Barry get suspended? Two weeks left. No.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 No, Barry Bonds never got caught. I'm excited for it because I put the bet on it for him to hit 62.

Speaker 1 I'm not trying to take it away from you. It'll be the Yankee record.
It'd be pretty crazy. That would be pretty crazy.
They've been playing baseball for a long-ass time for the Yankees.

Speaker 1 Also, it's reached that point in the night where American Ninja Warriors back on. Yeah,

Speaker 1 we went through Johnny Bananas. We always see Johnny Bananas' show for a while, and then it goes to American Ninja Warriors.
So let's wrap it up. We'll see everyone Wednesday.
Max Homa.

Speaker 1 Give it up for Chicago.

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Speaker 1 I'm gonna go with 17. 17.
I'm gonna go with

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