NFL Week 2, Fastest 2 Minutes, TuAnon, The Cardinals Have Life Plus The Waterdogs Won A Championship

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Today is Monday, September 19th, week two.

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We start in Baltimore, where the game opened up with Devin Duvernay running like a racehorse for six. LaMardi Gras Jackson took the top off the defense and showed them some TDs.

But in the words of my colleague Lee Corso, not so fast, my friend, as the Dolphins mounted a furious fourth quarter comeback. Bartender, waddle service, make it a double.
Ty Greek Hill was the hero, and that's not tzatziki sauce in your underwear, Dolphins fans. You're just excited because your team is 2-0.
Dolphins, 38. Ravens, 35.
In another witching hour stunner, Job Flacco has been tested by God as the Jets aren't just delivering migrant workers this week. They're also landing in Martha's Wynyard.

Nick Cage Chubb scored three touchdowns as he starred in a new movie, The Unbearable Weight of Massive Talent Wasted on a Dogshit Franchise. It may be bracency bias, but this Jets team looks like they're in it for the long haul.
Jets, 31. The Browns, 30.
in Duval Where Trevor Lawrence Fishburne May tricks us into being good And Doug P.E. Dieterson Had his team taking all the right pills Speaking of pills Matt Ryan Braun might want to consider Getting a shipment to Peyton Manning's Wife's house in Indianapolis Because his three interceptions Have Colts fans doing the unspeakable.
Missing Carson Wentz. Speaking of missing, I miss my dear friend the Queen, or as I called her Lizzie Bear.
Rest in peace, my majesty. You're absolutely right, Boom.
If HGH is out of the question, it may be time for Matt Private Ryan to get saved from the evil Reich. Jaguars 24, Colts, Goose Egg, huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? In a matchup between two big coaches, Dancy, Reagan, Campbell, gobbled Ronald Reagan Rivera's D right up.
Amon Bra, St. Brown, looked like C-Cup as he dropped a fat pair in the commander's end zone.
The rocket arm, Jared Karabas Goff, is playing so well he's going to get a bag, and he says he's happy, but we know he's lying. The Detroit Lions might be good.
Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh? Lions 36, the Commanders 27. In the Meadowlands, where Daniel Crone said let's get this bread, as the Giants are number 2-0.
Matt Gruel and Quaker Mayfield have Panthers fans demanding a little more flavor. Say Rich homie Quan Barkley has Giants fans feeling some type of way, restoring the glory of the 80s with a day ball of Coke and Lawrence Taylor highlights.
The G-Men take down the Kitty Cats 19-16. The G-Men are 2-0.
Over a mile high where they're calling him Nathaniel Straightjacket because his brain still can't get out of its own way. Don't push the panic Sutton just yet, Broncos fans, as Cortland and Russ hooked up for over half the team's passing yards.
The Broncos were in a low-speed chase with OJ, but this time Howard was brought down easily after only seven yards. Even though the Texans aren't very good, the Mills have eyes as this team isn't totally dead yet.
Broncos 16, Texans 9. Out in Las Vegas, where it was a tale of two halves, as the Cardinals looked like the Red Ring of Death in the first half, only to play Red Dead Redemption in the second, as Merck Davis had to watch his team get nerfed.
Henry Ruggs isn't coming back from the gulag anytime soon. The game went to overtime, and Hunter Renfro Biden handled the ball like it was a laptop full of incriminating crack nudes fumbling twice the last one ending the game and the Raiders get stunned by the Cardinals 29-23 down to Dallas it's a bird it's a plane it's Cooperman as Cooper Rush Limbaugh used his right wing to attack Joe Biden Burrow.

Micah Allen Parsons Project has his Cowboys defense playing serious ball,

and Dorrance Lance Armstrong had double the sacks of his namesake.

Mike Ginny McCarthy won't be singled out this week,

as Jerry Jones will surely be taking a trip to the glory hole.

The Cowboys 20, the Bengals 17.

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Week two in the books. We are recording this it is six minutes minutes left in the Bears-Packers game.
I've gone through the range of emotions. I went from the Bears might win this game in the first quarter to holy shit, like let me crawl under a couch and die to maybe the Bears have a chance here to Matt Nagy just called a shotgun QB dive on the six-inch line.
So his name is Matt Eberflue. No, no, I know, I know, but Matt Nagy called that.
But that was Matt Nagy. That was a Matt Nagy play for sure.
That entire drive kind of gave Nagy vibes where it's just like, okay, we're going to run. We're going to kind of panic a little bit right now because we can't get a cohesive offense going.
So we're going to try to run the read option all the way down the field and hope that they guess wrong at the merge point every single time, the mesh point. So they did get down the field, though, which is good news, and they pinned them deep.
It was like a very long extended punt. Field position.
That got them down the field. I do want to point out, I saw this fly a little bit under the radar.
I think that the Sunday Night Football account tweeted out the video as well. On the earlier touchdown, Aaron Rodgers went into the end zone and him and his

teammates did an extended ayahuasca

celebration where they poured

tea and then pretended to pass out.

Is that something that we should be celebrating?

No, jail. There's kids,

there's youngsters out there that are watching on television.

Last I checked,

DMT is still a Schedule 1

narcotic, I think. Yep, facts.

Are we going to have kids going into school tomorrow

asking their teachers if they can have

Thank you. Last I checked, DMT is still a Schedule 1 narcotic, I think Yep, facts Are we going to have kids going into school tomorrow Asking their teachers if they can have ayahuasca for lunch? Mommy, daddy, I saw the bad man He was trying to do drugs on national television Instead of saying tomorrow morning, Lego my ego, mom They're going to say Lego my ego Because they're going to have ego death Yep And they're going to just run rampant And next thing you know, our entire's going to shit.
I mean, it sounds like you finally are kind of waking up to what I've been preaching. I saw.
Oh, God, and now here comes the embarrassment. So Sammy Watkins just had like a 40-yard pass.
Try not to do any freebasing celebrations in the end zone this time, Aaron. Okay, so this wasn't that embarrassing.
I'm just going to say it. It was bad, but it's been way worse.
It would have been nice to get 14 points, and you still might. It's been way worse.
Listen, if you can get 14 points in any loss, you can talk yourself into anything and be like, you know, we had our options here and there. It would be exceptional to get 14 points because the score is 24-10 right now.
Yes. So if we found a way to get exactly 14, that would be awesome.
It would be awesome. That's what I'm really hoping for.
Now, on that play call when they get down to the half-inch line, I hate that play call. Yeah.
I hate it. I think everyone hates it.
Why are you running shotgun if you're going to do a quarterback sneak? If you're going to do a quarterback sneak, put him up the center's butthole at the time that it snapped and if you're gonna do shotgun let him run let him stretch the field and maybe have someone he could pass to i'm just gonna say this it was bad it wasn't the worst i'm i'm i'm i'm thinking about all the times where it's been way worse this was bad not the worst i do have a little tell me if this is crazy, but a little bit of doubts. Do you know what Justin Fields numbers are tonight? No, I don't.
He's seven for nine. He's only thrown it nine times.
It's bad weather, though. You're going into Lambeau Stadium.
The frozen tundra. You're really thinking that you're going to air it out right now? The Bears are running a high school offense.
Jake, can you check and see what the temperature is? There was supposed to be rain in the forecast, so maybe it just never showed up. Seven for nine, though.
Ah, that kind of hurts. I feel like seven for nine, 70 yards.
I don't know. Ideally, in today's NFL, you'd want your quarterback to try more how how cold is it 77 degrees 77 degrees you can't you can't air it out you can't be expected to just go out there and play some newfangled madden video game offense yeah uh the other spins that i have is that aaron rogers actually didn't beat the bears tonight it was aaron jones who ran uh 14 times for 134 yards which is pretty insane i do think it think it's cool that Aaron Jones still keeps that vial of ashes of his dad around his neck.
Yeah. That's kind of cool.
So every time he scores a touchdown, he brings out the chain. It's like, this one's for my dad.
Yeah. He's got it right there.
It could be too many men on the field, some people would say. But I think it's cool because I think he used to have it like, didn't he keep it in a bag that was inside of his shoulder pads at one point? Something like that.
And then he lost it and they made him transfer it into a piece of jewelry. Yeah.
That's kind of cool. It is cool.
And I'm just going to flush this one again. I know this is going to sound crazy because it's a nationally televised game.
The Packers are going to win by probably three scores. Justin Fields was seven for nine.
It wasn't as embarrassing as I expected. I thought it was going to be far more embarrassing.
There was a moment in the second quarter where it could have gotten truly out of hand, and the only thing that saved the Bears was a couple of fumbles by the Packers that helped slow the tide of what was happening. So I'm going to count this as a moral victory, which is pathetic.
A first quarter victory. Just a little stat for you, PFT.
If you bet $10 million on the first quarter Bears money line, you would have won $19 million. Yes, I'm aware of that.
Think about that. $19 million.
It's going to be weird for me come tax season. That's quite a hit.
It was a good investment. Here's another spin zone for you, Big Cat.
So our teams, we don't put our egos, we don't tie those to our team's win-loss records. We would never start out a show bragging about what our records are in football games where these guys don't even know that we exist.
I care much more deeply about teams that I own. Our teams are individuals that I root for on, I don't know, like an individual sport who might know us and might like us so like a sport like lacrosse if if we're invested in that or uh watching a good friend play golf on television yeah that to me these are important is really what should lead part of my take today personal relationships yes yes with teams that we you know aaron rogers can pretend that he owes the bit the Bears.
I haven't seen any tax filing say that he does. We own the Water Dogs.
Wait, do we have to file taxes for that? I don't know, actually. If you're listening to the IRS right now, you have to stop listening or else it's entrapment.
If you win a championship, you don't have to do taxes. That's good.
That's a good rule. Yeah, that's a great rule.
Stan Kroenke's swimming in that rule right now. great rule they should actually make that rule at least for baseball so that's something the owners actually try if you win a championship like it has to be a certain way like if you they should make it a rule like if your team only loses three games in the entire playoff run you don't you don't have to pay taxes that sounds good yeah i'm sure people will like that more rich people not paying taxes, yes, we'll talk about the Water Dogs.
Billy was there. We're going to get to that at the end of the day or at the end of the episode.
We'll talk about Max, who's on on Wednesday's show. Last thought, though, I really do think, and I say this from the bottom of my heart, Aaron Rodgers only having 228 passing yards.
He's so washed. That's the under.
He sucks. Like, that's it? That's it? That wasn't that impressive.
So, win for the Bears. But, yeah, same old, same old.
We suck. And the Packers own us.
And the Bears probably aren't that good. But they're frisky.
They're frisky. Let's talk about some other games.
And we'll see maybe if the Bears have a crazy comeback. I'll react to it.
Or at least maybe help us hit'm sad i am sad and i just i did go into the game the first quarter had me being like oh maybe maybe same old same old there's really nothing that's changed and we still have stupid coaching decisions that i can get mad at and uh same shit gets run every year and we now have gone backwards in passing mitch trubisky was like, by the end, was passing like 20 times a game. Now we have a first-round quarterback that's passing nine times a game.
It's great. It's not fun football.
It's great. The Bears should run the triple option.
People would not be able to defend the triple option. That's what you kind of tried to do in the last round.
Yeah, I know. I mean, listen, the triple option, you can't tell me the teams would want to play the triple option in pro football.
They'd be pissed off. If you just pull the, you do the thing that Mike McDaniel is doing, where you just get the fastest people in the world on your team.
Yes. Just get sprinters on your team to run the triple option.
Sprinters and one fullback. Oh, wow.
They got a graphic right now. Notable former Bears counting against 2022 salary cap.
It was like Andy Dalton, Nakeem Hicks, Khalil Mack, Mitch. Foles Foles.
Yeah. Well, Foles were paying forever.
Yeah. It's re Cohen.
Yeah. It's right.
It's a, it's a rebuilding year. 63 mil.
It's a rebuilding year, Hank. It's a rebuilding year.
I'm okay. At least I have the honesty to say that.
So do I. Oh, I said it rebuilding.
Yeah. Look, see Aaron Rodgers can't even throw a touchdown pass, even though he has two tonight.
All right, let's talk about the other games. We had a crazy Sunday.
Two games that a team that was down 20 points at halftime came back and won, and we're going to start, obviously, in chronological order, but the Dolphins, 42, the Ravens, 38. This game was a complete tale of two halves.
It wasar jackson's show in the first half he had 318 yards three tds in a 79 yard touchdown run in the first half it was like everyone on twitter saying lamar's getting his money look at this and then the second half started and actually really the fourth quarter because it was 35 14 in the fourth quarter quarter and Tua non Tua gets to fucking just have his day all the haters and the Dolphins pull off a stunning upset and Tyreek Hill and Jalen Waddell are absolutely insane I also love that this counts as a loss for Lamar Jackson like how much of this loss should Lamar Jackson be responsible for they couldn't get first in the second half. All I'm going to say is Joe Flacco found a way to close the game out.
That's a fact. Maybe he should have got rid of him, Ravens.
But the interesting thing is the Mike Sandoz stat continues. The one that we discussed last year about the Dolphins.
So now it's 19 games in a row where every time the Dolphins play against a quarterback with the letter O in their name, they win and they lose to every quarterback that doesn't have the letter O in their last name. So today Lamar Jackson has an O.
It goes back all the way last year from week one, and now it's two more. And I think josh allen next week so that's a loss no that's a win no it's a loss they beat every quarterback that has oh right they beat lamar jackson right it's in the last name oh it's only last i think it's only last name got it got it got it i don't know we're gonna have to fact yeah we have to fact check that okay so then where we bet.
But Tua, Tua Don, like, have your moment because he had a couple bad interceptions in the first half. Tua then becomes the only two quarterbacks younger than him to have six touchdowns in a game.
Patrick Mahomes and Mitch Trubisky, two Hall of Famers. Excellent.
Pretty good company. Yep.
Pretty good company. Tua also, he was, I think he's the first time that a Dol that a dolphins quarterback it's like pretty much every record for the dolphins quarterback is dan marino and so he was the first one since dan marino to have six touchdowns to have like 450 yards he had an insane day so he's another record that he set was he became the first dolphins quarterback to set a new record since dan marino yes exactly.
Yes, exactly. Pretty much.
He is the Dan Marino. Dan Marino, I love different franchises have one quarterback that just owns every single record.
Yep. And look at Tua.
He shows up. He's the new hotness.
People are debating him. Some people are calling him a backup quarterback.
I've believed in Tua. I am a two and on and that second half was insane and we should say mike mcdaniels he he feels like i know this is early he feels like the real deal tyree kill after the game said it was like he was playing madden out there yeah talking about mike mcdaniels play calling and then on the reverse side uh john harbaugh said never did you think we'd have that many balls thrown over our head.
That just can't happen. That's not okay.
That's a bad feeling. Yeah.
You want to hear some more advanced stats here? Yes. This is kind of crazy.
I'm excited. So the Baltimore Ravens, their defensive backs, they traveled a total of 6,131 yards on pass plays.
That's a lot. That's a lot of yards.
Like, their defensive backs ran miles and miles and miles, and it turns out that when you just have two, like, super, super fast players, a really good strategy is have them run straight downfield almost every time, and there's nothing you can do if you have both Hill and Waddle running go routes at the same time. You can't defend that and then cover the crossing routes underneath.
That's what I was going to say. It's impossible to do.
Mike McDaniel's offense, he obviously does a lot of intricate stuff, but it feels like one of the guys runs a go route and the other guy just runs underneath. And it's like you can't – the gravity of Tyreek Hill running straight down the field pulls everyone, and then Jalen Waddle streaking underneath.
He catches the ball. He had that one where it was, I don't know, probably a 40-yard run after the catch.
And again, Tua, I love Tua because I just love the story and rooting for a guy who's seemingly a very nice guy that a lot of people shit on. Okay, the game is officially over, Justin Fields.
That's probably why he shouldn't pass. He threw an interception.
Was that on his 10th attempt? It was on his 11th attempt. Okay.
Not good. It turns out, yeah, like the weapons that he has now and Mike McDaniel's offense, it's explosive.
Like, I don't know how you guard those two guys at the same time. And Tua, again, he struggled in the first half, but he was able to right the ship and hit those guys in stride be accurate he's not he's not asked to throw like bombs but it was awesome to watch it was a stunner like we turned the game off we turned the ravens dolphins game off because it was a 21 point game in the fourth quarter they started they scored and they scored again we're like wait we have to we have to turn this back on and the dolphins are fucking two and oh and they just went to went into baltimore and beat the ravens which like we all if you watch that first half we're like wow the ravens are really like for real they're back they're killing the dolphins now i don't know what to make the dolphins yes a good team here's what i'm prepared to say about the good they're a good team i want to get ahead of this take i don't actually believe in it yet but it's one that I'm going to squad on for about three months or so.
Once the weather turns cold, I'm going to start buying into the whole storyline of this team isn't built to win in the playoffs. Well, yeah.
Because they are kind of like, I mean, Tyreek Hill said all of it. It's like playing Madden out there.
And sometimes it shows that football coaches can make things way, way, way too complicated when the best thing to do sometimes is just amass the fastest players that you can possibly find and then have them run and then have other players try to chase them who are slower. That's kind of what his offense amounts to and get them in space.
Obviously, there's stuff that he does that makes it a little bit more complicated than that, but that's at the core of what his offense is, which seems very simple. I want to see him run the ball.
want to see him run the ball that's that's probably not something that they'll have to do for a little bit but i can't wait until they break out like the candy ass uh like aqua uniforms and you've got people actually doing that take of like i don't think that the dolphins can win in the winter time i'm 100 on that take yeah it was it was the matt moore game when they went to pittsburgh yep and they were wearing the dolphins uniforms andins uniforms and it was like, he got concussed on that play. It was like, you can't show up to Pittsburgh with those candy-ass uniforms.
You can't wear Aqua and go north of the Mason-Dixon line. And I don't really know what to make of the Ravens now because that was, you always expect the Ravens to have a good defense and obviously Kyle Fuller tore his ACL in week one, which them and you expect them especially when they have the lead like that to be able to protect a lead maybe it was just one of those freaky games but I'm a believer in Mike Daniels he showed up to the game in aviators and like a pink shirt he looks he's he's fun yeah he is fun I hope it I hope the I hope we don't have to like have the pendulum swing back on him if they start losing he's not able to to rally the troops but right now he's fun to watch they're a fun team and to anon gets its day there were a couple moments in the game where tyreek hill was doing the thing that tyreek hill does where after an insanely explosive play where he just outruns everybody he goes to the sidelines because his entire body is a cramp yes because he's got he's just like one muscle that's just all over his body and he always just like he needs to recharge for a second sometimes after plays but if there really is no way to stop him and waddle as long as you can throw a pass right you can't cover both of them at the same time i i also love tyree kill um there's at least like four or five times a game where he's running and he's very covered and he puts his hand up.
He's just the always open guy. And you need that guy on your team who always thinks he's open because he's such an electric playmaker.
I mean, they had 32 total targets for the two of them. Like, sometimes football isn't such rocket science.
Fast guys, guys that are faster than everyone, get them ball. Yep, that's it.
That's probably why the Patriots offense stinks, because they do have a rocket scientist trying to figure it out. Right, right.
Also, fun stat, two is 8-1 against Super Bowl winning coaches. Yeah.
So he's a goat killer. He is a goat killer.
He's also, so the stats were, he's the first Dolphins QB since Dan Marino in 1995 to throw for 450 yards in the first Dolphins QB to throw for five TDs since Dan Marino in 1994. So he's, I'm just saying, I know it's a different league.
I know everything's changed to passing everything to a, to a none. Expect us.
How mad do you think Dan Marino is that he never got to play with Chris Forrester as his line coach? Yeah. Seriously.
They would have gotten along really well. They would have.
Fast friends. Yes.
Think of thieves. Also, first 21-plus point comeback in the force since 2006.
It's just the eighth time it's happened in the Super Bowl era. So, if you're the Ravens, is it like all doom and gloom right now? No.
Our offense kicked ass today. That was pretty cool.
I think that's one of those ones you have to just chalk up to like shit got away from us.

We got two-ed.

Yeah, like shit just kind of got away from us and we didn't really have an answer for

it.

We'll have a better answer next week.

Yeah.

And we won't have to...

Who do they play next week?

Dolphins.

Oh, Ravens?

Yeah.

Whose line is it anyway?

Ravens versus?

Baltimore at New England.

Oh.

At the Patriots.

Well, that's good for Baltimore. The Patriots do not have two players like Jalen Waddell and Tyree Kill, I'd say.
Not one player. So whose line is it anyway? I'm going to say it is Ravens minus two and a half.
I'm going to say Ravens minus four. What is it? Minus three and a half.
Oh, okay. No, that's my guess.
Oh, that's your guess. All right, find it for us, Jake.

I'm loading.

Dolphins host the Bills, by the way, next week.

Yeah, it's an Allen.

Heavyweight.

So it's the Bills.

What time?

No one is last name.

Yeah.

The Packers-Bears game just went final.

Justin Fields, seven for 11, 70 yards, one interception.

That's like, if that was the first quarter, it would be decent.

Seven for 11. Like, oh, it was a tip ball.
it's a tip ball interception we have the line yeah ravens minus three oh okay okay all right all right um all right next game that seems low oh you're thinking you're thinking hungry dog i know you're thinking to take the ravens against you no i'm not gonna do that but i would have that, but I would have thought it was more. I don't know.
First home game, right, for the Patriots? Yeah. Three's an important number.
What's the crowd going to be like? Insane. They're going to boo Belichick? No.
No. Okay.
Jets Browns. Same record as you fuckers.
Yeah. That's right.
We all suck except for Jets. Every one and one.
What else is new? Yeah. That's kind of the story of this podcast.
Even Billy joined the 1-1 squads. Billy is coming back from Philly right now.
He will be here for the end of the show to talk about the Water Dogs. Hank's saying no.
Jets-Browns, this game was crazy because the Browns won this game, and then they didn't. They were up.
Nick Chubb scores a touchdown with a minute and like 50 seconds left. If whenever it happens and everyone gets mad.
Minute 20 seconds left. Minute 20 seconds left.
Whenever it happens and everyone gets upset when a player goes down because of fantasy or whatever, this is why the player should go down. If Nick Chubb goes down instead of scoring a touchdown here, the game is completely over.
The Browns are 2-0.

The Jets are 0-2.

Instead, he scores the touchdown.

Joe Flacco throws a bomb.

They get an onside kick.

Oh, they miss, by the way,

Cade York misses the extra point after Nick Chubb's touchdown.

So the Jets score a touchdown, get the onside kick,

score a touchdown with like 15 seconds left,

win the game.

Complete shocker.

0.3% the Jets had. I never trust that win probability, but 0.3% feels right for down 13 points with a minute 20 in no timeouts.
Yeah, from week 9 of 2001 through week 1 of 2022, so that's 21 years, teams had lost 2,229 consecutive games when trailing by at least 13 points in the final two minutes.

That's crazy.

And what else is crazy,

this is one of those things that only makes sense inside my brain.

You might agree,

but I think some people out there understand what I'm saying.

When you see the score 30-17,

that seems like so much more than 13 points difference, doesn't it?

Yeah, because it jumps to,

it goes through the twos and the ones.

Yeah, the 0-7, the 30-17 point differential,

I think that's the biggest 13-point lead that you can have in sports.

It's like 31-19.

It seems like a ton.

31-19, game over.

Yeah, right.

Absolutely.

Right, right.

But, yeah, it was crazy.

Chubb should have gone down for sure.

And then Kevin Stefanski said – you know, Kevin Stefanski,

he's becoming the new Frank Reich, who is

now becoming the new Dan Quinn.

What I mean by that is like in your postgame press conference is being like, this is on

me.

I got to take a hard look in the mirror.

Oh, I have some Frank Reich quotes for when we get to him.

Just being the mirror guy.

I got to take a long look in the mirror.

This one starts.

It starts with me.

And then you evolve into it starts and ends with me.

Into that guy.

He's not there yet, but he's saying, blame me. Stefansky wants us to blame him for this result.
Okay, you're an idiot. You should coach your guys to go down.
You're a moron. Yeah.
Because this has happened before to Nick Chubb, right? So you should tell him. You should have had that conversation.
Also, you've got to change Brownie the Elf. Yep.
They tried putting Brownie the Elf at midfield. Brownie the Elf is 0-1.
Sometimes you've got to know when to cut your losses right when they start. Because, right, it's bad vibes.
As we said, he has got terrible ball security. Looks like a chump.
Just looks very much off balance, running too high, not behind his pads at all. I think after this type of loss, you have to change whatever you can change, and you've got a great scapegoat.
So if I'm the Browns, don't let this opportunity slip away. Yeah, do it right now.
To scapegoat Brownie the Elf as your midfield logo and be like, we're going back to the helmet. Yeah, and it was – you know the Browns have such a history of sadness that I don't know if you noticed, but there was a brief moment that Dwayne Rudd was trending on Twitter, and if you don't recognize the name Dwayne Rudd it was the linebacker for I think it might have actually been defensive lineman for the Browns in 2002 the Browns were about to beat the Chiefs with four seconds left he tried to sack Trent Green Trent Green lateraled it Dwayne Rudd took his helmet off in celebration and threw it got a penalty they got an extra like 30 yards because the game can't end on a defensive penalty kick the field goal won the game four seconds left game over and so Dwayne Rudd started trending and I was like oh shit I forgot I forgot about Dwayne Rudd that was a great play that's that's Brown's misery that they're like this is like Dwayne Rudd over you know even though there's not one specific point I guess Nick Chubb not going down but onside kick we kick.
We never get to see onside kicks work anymore. It's kind of cool.
Also, Joe Flacco's back, baby. Joe Flacco, he did what Joe Flacco does in this game, which is he showed zero motion.
So Russell Wilson tries to be a robot sometimes, but he tries too hard. A robot doesn't have to try to be a robot.
It just is. Joe Flacco is a fucking robot and and when he's out on the field sometimes and it goes both ways because he'll be in the pocket and you'd like to see him panic a little bit maybe try to escape a sack but joe flacco doesn't do that he just kind of stands there and gets hit but he is unflappable so it goes both ways he'll get he'll be unflappable when he's about to get hit and he'll take some bad sacks but he'll also just stand there and deliver perfect passes like they were thrown out of a jugs machine occasionally.
Yes. And he doesn't show any emotion.
It's almost like you walk into your boss's office, and he's filing TPS reports. Yeah, no.
He's always looking like somebody is walking through a parking garage trying to find a lost car. And you think he'd be a little happier to be in a game day environment because the story was he said a couple weeks ago that his son said that he sucks.
He's like, you don't want to go home. You get fucking heckled at home.
You'd probably rather be around the guys. But yeah, it's true.
He has an affect now where it's like he's just showing up and clocking in and doing monotonous Excel formulas all day long instead of playing pro football. Yeah, he's doing the thing where it's kind of like a big inside joke to him where every time he does something incredible, he's like, holy shit, I can't believe I can still do that.
Yeah, wow. That was cool.
I haven't done that in like eight years. I'm old and I can't believe that I have another chance to do this.
He's reached a point in his career where he like he's so thankful because he knows that he shouldn't be starting in games right now right but he's still getting another chance and this probably means he's going to get another sick like backup contract somewhere ever for another couple years forever here's a fun his mobility is very funny because there was multiple times where he almost got stripped and that the browns defensive line is still great they're this back half of their defense is a mess. You saw it with the...
Was anyone even close to... Who scored the touchdown to get it within one? I'm not sure.
It was right before the onside kick. And you were saying...
Corey Davis? Yeah, and it was like, what's going on with the Browns defense? Their secondary is a complete debacle. Yeah, here's a fun little stat.

This is the first time since 2011 that the Jets, Lions, and Jaguars all went on the same day.

Wow.

How about that?

I wonder how many different league-wide Winogamis there are.

Yeah, that is a fun one.

I believe KFC tweeted this out.

First time Yankees, Mets, Jets, Giants won since 2009. And it also was the first time I believe that the Jets and Giants had won week two since for like five years.
They just don't win on week two. So yeah, I mean it was a I still can't believe it.
I mean I don't know. Is this when Robert Sala says let me pull out the receipts? Because it felt like they just that one, I don't know if you can that wasn't a winning formula.
No, it's throat time. Open wide media because Robert Salah has God damn it, it's one of those things where like Billy mispronounced his name so many times.
Robert Salah. Anyways, my throat's open, Bob.
Put it in there. What were you going to say, Hank? Just wanted to get your live reaction.
I haven't heard this shit either, but... There's a long history of games between these two teams.
Now, we've won 104 times against them. Not that you're counting? No, I think everybody in Green Bay is counting, for sure.
What does he got? A fucking Southern accent now? Yeah, he did the Southern accent thing again. He's on perks.
That's what happened. Arrest him.
Oh, my knee! You remember that? Yeah, he's on. That's the southern accent that he goes in.
That's honestly, it's offensive. I am going to.
I haven't texted him since we had him on. I'm going to text him in an hour and say 234 yards passing is embarrassing.
And see, he'll probably agree. I just don't like.
His wide receiver sucks so bad. I don't like when he pretends to co-opt Southern culture.
But he's doing white voice. Yeah, he is.
It's disgusting. Can I ask a question? And this is, we're a judgment-free podcast.
We're not going to judge anyone. But I'm just asking from a pure karmic spot.
The Browns' loss today was horrific. And they have had horrific losses in their franchise history

it's not a great franchise history we saw our friend Jeff D. Lowe was there and he was like

same old Browns karma do you think there's anything to be attributed to the tailgates

where it's like a dude with a boner a mannequin with a boner saying happy endings aren't illegal

free tips and then other people with Deshaun Watson jerseys that like one of them said like

Thank you. dude with a boner a mannequin with a boner saying happy endings aren't illegal free tips and then other people with deshaun watson jerseys that like one of them said like rub the other said tug do you think there's any karma involved because i feel like browns fans again i'm not going to tell i'm not going to go around being like hey you shouldn't make any jokes but you might want to if you think karma's involved at all maybe just be like clean it up browns fans so you can maybe get some wins.
This is a horrific loss. I think if you're Browns, if you think karma's involved at all, maybe just be like, clean it up, Browns fans, so you can maybe get some wins.

This is a horrific loss.

I think if you're Browns fans,

you either have to go one of two ways with it, which is you just accept that you got a scumbag on your team,

so then you become more of a scumbag.

Which is what they did with that,

because that was like they're basically making

a complete joke of the whole thing.

Or you just abandon the franchise.

That's kind of, well, I guess Jeff D. Lowe is one of those fans that is like middle ground.
Like I cheer for the uniform. Right.
Whoever is in that uniform, I will root for. Right.
Separate the art from the artist a little bit. And there's a difference between – I hate when everyone plays the, oh, well, you root for that guy.
You root for that guy. Like just saying like, oh, your team has that guy.
Every team has sc scumbags but you also don't have to celebrate like what they did yeah i mean you should at least acknowledge the fact that like you have a mom who's a female and so you understand maybe a sister who's a female maybe you have a dog that's a female maybe you watch a lot of lesbian porn so you feel very close to a of women. Do you know, did you ever have a teacher that was a female?

So you need to just really scrap and claw at any possible thing that you can bring up to make it seem like you're not cheering for a scumbag.

I did see that picture.

It was quite something.

It was shocking, even for Brown's face.

Even for the Muni lot.

The Muni lot, which, like, that's international waters.

It's lawless.

You can do whatever you want in the Muni lot. In fact, lawlessness is, the only law is please break laws in Muni lot.
The Muni lot, which, like, that's international waters. It's lawless.
You can do whatever you want in the Muni lot.

In fact, like, lawlessness is, the only law is please break laws.

I guess in the Muni lot, like, they kind of won because it is kind of the whole point of the Muni lot is to shock everyone as much as possible.

Yeah.

And I saw it, and I kind of, like, stopped in my trouble.

Whoa, you really went for the joke.

Yeah.

And you went quickly for it.

Like, it's the first home game. It's pretty bad.
It was a pretty bad display they had set up. It was like a giant, what do you call those things, dioramas? No, it was an actual massage table.
Yeah, it was like a life-size diorama that people usually make out of shoeboxes. But they're like, hey, our quarterback's super horny.
It was honestly as close to celebrating multiple sexual assaults. That's what I'm saying.
I want to see if they've done anything making fun of Big Ben in the past. Yes, I would say so.
And then compare and contrast the two. Again, I don't think you have to.
We all root for sports are very messy, and I don't like when people are like, well, you were for that team and that guy, but you don't have to celebrate it.

Yeah, that was celebration.

But again, maybe you're right.

Maybe it's like you just have to go.

You have to one up the scumbag.

Yeah.

Well, the Jets came from behind unexpectedly today.

So turnabout.

Yes, that's it was a shot.

It was a it was a shocking, shocking loss.

I feel like I've seen everything.

Yeah.

But seeing that dummy in the parking lot and those two.

Yeah.

Yeah.

That one.

I thought you were talking about the loss.

I'm seen everything. Yeah.

But seeing that dummy in the parking lot.

And those two.

Yeah, that one.

I thought you were talking about the loss.

I actually don't know which was more shocking.

The loss or the dummy.

It was bad.

But both those games, the Ravens, Dolphins, and Jets, Browns happening right at the same time.

Because both those were completely. I tweeted, like, if you had the Ravens and the Browns today in bets, you just need to lie down in a cold, dark room and just settle in and just be like, all right, next week's my week.
Okay. It can't get any worse for you.
No, it can't. By the way, Joe Flacco, 18-3 versus the Browns.
Not talked about. Big Ben's the Browns killer, but Joe Flacco also a Browns killer, which makes sense.
Yeah, he was playing on the Ravens for forever when they were a really good team, and they had that tough defense. Right, exactly.
So I don't know where the Browns – the Browns feel like they just have to tread water until Deshaun does come back, right? Yeah, that's it. And Jacoby Reset's not doing bad.
I actually saw that he had an 80% completion rate. He didn't do anything bad.
It was the Browns defense and special teams that, and Nick Chubb not going down. Yeah, he just didn't win.
Yeah. All right.
Patriots, Steelers, Hank, this game stunk. This was a Big Ten West game.
Yeah, it was ugly. Yeah.
It was a logo game. One big play.
This was Iowa-Wisconsin, where it's like, let's just punt and hope the other team makes a mistake on a punt return return it was a logo game where it was on one of our center tvs today and i think a lot of people are probably watching and tuning into this but as far as the actual players that are inside those uniforms it actually it resembles nothing of these two franchises from just like three or four years ago although it's tough mitch strubisky nice guy friend of the program he kind of resembles big ben's

offense where everything's a check down everything is a check down check down uh really wide hand

offs to naji harris just they were down after check terrified of running the ball up the middle

and and mac jones what's your status right now he did you see the one that he threw that didn't

get picked off yeah that was one of the worst passes i was i was i was in a different section

I'm going to go with the sound on. It was ugly.
There was just nothing. There was that one big play.
That's basically the only takeaway you can have from this game. And the Gunnar Olszewski fumble, which people are like, oh, Belichick, double agent.
Belichick's a double agent for everything. Yeah.
He all the time good run game for the patriots though yeah um are you having remember last week we talked about like is he the guy like for instance my quarterback was seven for 11 for 70 yards with one interception i am going to bed tonight being like he might not be the guy i don't want that thought but i'm having that thought 21 for 35 252 yards and a touchdown is not terrible he did have a lot a lot of time to throw like tj watt i if you watch that game today you're like oh yeah that's why tj watt is so fucking good i don't think steelers had a sack like he makes everyone better on their defensive line and he makes everything way harder for a quarterback and then mac jones felt like he had forever today. Mack Jones, before I can confidently say he's the guy, he's got to do better when he's out of the pocket.
When he gets out of the pocket, it's a disaster. And if your quarterback's the guy, he can make things happen.
Correct. These are the types of games that it's actually way more frustrating than if he had stunk, because if he continues to have games like this, you'll be in a constant state of, is he the's winning but he's winning right and you can't doubt a winner and then it's like well he had 252 yards but what about the interceptions that got dropped we're going to teach you a lot about the is he the guy thought process because again you've never had to do this in your life but what pft just pointed out mitch is a perfect example of went to the playoffs yep a winner.
Is he the guy? Is Jason Campbell still the guy? I still don't know if Jason Campbell's the guy in Washington. I know he's not the guy in Chicago because that Monday night football game.
Right. Where Colin Kaepernick fucking eviscerated.
That was when he was a bear. Yeah.
Right. He still might be the guy in Washington.
But yeah. No, Hank, it's going to be tough because I'll tell you right now, I don't think Mac Jones is the guy, but I think he's close enough to being the guy that he'll have you wondering whether or not he's the guy for a very long time.
And that's the worst kind of guy to have. What I would come back with is that the Patriots had a second year quarterback and a really good defense.
The quarterback maybe not had been the guy his second year, and the defense carried them to a championship. Obviously the Patriots defense I don't think is as good as the 2001 Patriots but like I don't think I'm gonna have a definitive answer this season yeah no it's set up yeah where he he won't be asked to do probably too much and Bill but like this was I bet on the Patriots day because I was like Bill Belichick awful loss like he's not gonna'll figure out a way to win this game.
It was kind of – they pounded the run. They played – they made the Steelers make one mistake in special teams, and that was it.
That was kind of the game. That was one big Mac Jones throw, and that was the game.
Clap it up. Game over.
But I think Mac Jones has flashes of guy. Same.
He's got to do better outside of the pocket. But that's the worst kind of guy.
Yeah, I know. There's a couple times.
You guys give no time. What do you mean? Well, no, dude.
Here's what happens. You know what the NFL stands for? PFT hit him with it.
Not. For.
Long. It's not for long week.
Nobody knows that. You don't have a lot of time to figure out whether you're the guy.

So the problem with a guy that flashes the guy is he's not the guy. I'd rather have a guy that does not flash ever.

And you make it easy because what happens is after year two,

then you start having the conversation about whether or not you give the guy

the fifth-year guy option at quarterback.

And then that becomes the entire evaluation process. Then you waste another year trying to figure out – the guy ball test is not going to be friendly to Mac Jones in year three.
It's going to be bad. Yeah, you're going to have to start having that conversation next year of is he the guy fifth-year option, even though it's still two years away.
And it feels way too early to tell. We're just speaking from tortured living of like, the guy is an important conversation you have to have with yourself.
Absolutely. But looking around the league, there is very few guys.
I watch all these games and there's just really not any out there. Josh Allen.
Josh Allen's a guy. Patrick Mahomes is a guy.
So that's two. I'm going to go with Joe Burrow.
He's the guy. Is he? Oh, don't start that, Hank.
I'll allow it, but we got this very moment. At this very moment.
I would go so far as to say he's him. Lamar? Yep.
That's a guy. Definitely a guy.
We're missing way too many. Rogers.
Rogers is the guy. Yeah, absolutely.
Tom Brady. Six.
Herbert. Herbert.
Yes. Yes.
He's the guy. Russell Wilson.
Russell Wilson. He's the guy.
Not Derek Carr yet. No, no, no, no, no, no.
No, no. Please don't go there.
Don't do that. Jameis.
Jameis was pretty tough today. That was pretty good.
Trevor Lawrence. No.
I mean, he would look good today. I think the Jaguars are bad, but I guess not.

Yeah, no, he could be a guy.

Not that many guys.

Right.

Wait, Kirk Cousins?

Nope.

Okay, again, separate. Kyler?

Not to go all Muni lot on him.

Kyler is.

I think Kyler.

Yeah, no, Deshaun's a guy.

Deshaun's a guy.

Kyler, so that's 11.

Who else are we missing? Who are we missing? We're missing someone obvious. No, no, no, a guy.
Deshaun's a guy. Kyler, so that's 11.
Who else are we missing?

Who are we missing?

We're missing someone obvious.

No, no, no.

We're missing someone obvious.

Oh, I mean, Stafford's a guy.

He just won a fucking Super Bowl.

Yep, true.

He's absolutely a guy.

Is Allen Hurts the guy?

No, not yet.

He could be guy adjacent.

He's not guy yet.

Yeah, he's not all the way guy.

Oh, Jack.

Jared Goff.

Jared Goff.

Definitely a guy.

14 guys we've just counted.

It's less than 50%. But that's a decent amount of guys.
Yeah, but half of them are super old. Like Rodgers, Wilson, Brady.
I don't know that. I mean, they're obviously the guys, but they're on their way out.
They're men. They're old men.
I'm just saying. It's a question.
I mean, I think the Steelers right now are going to have to ask, hey, we've got to probably put in the guy that we've got to figure out if he is the guy and can he pick it yeah and again i love mitch but like that was that was tough to watch the steelers offense the nfl is a guy driven league and if you don't have one then you're looking for one yep that's just how it goes to a two is the guy this is the year yes who is the guy if they don't make the playoffs not the guy no he's the guy jake sounds like you're very you're ready to write two off no at the beginning of the season, that's what I was saying to myself. Two is the guy.
They didn't make the playoffs. Two is the guy.
Two is the real. So far, he's the guy.
Is Dak the guy? We'll have to get into that because I don't know. I might even throw a challenge flag on Dak.
Yeah, Cooper Rush might be the guy. He won the game today.
All right, so any last things about the Steelers-Patriots? No. Nothing at all.
Great receiver. I think they're actually kind of very similar teams where they won't.
I love that. That was Max.
If Hank has a way, he will find a way to just needle Philadelphia. No, he had a great game.
That was my takeaway from the game. He had a great game.
In fact or fiction, would you have said that if he wasn't a former Philadelphia Eagle? Fact. Belichick said after that he does a lot.
Look at the stat sheet. Yeah.
Okay, yeah. Fact, you wouldn't have said that if he wasn't a former Philadelphia Eagle.
Fiction. Thank you for it.
No, you already said fact. I also think you can tell a lot about the Patriots by whether Belichick's smiling or not.
And there were some pictures of him smiling, very large smile after the game because i think he loves those type of games well and he also loves winning those yeah right and he also i think knows deep down like probably not the most talented roster so wins you know getting wins that way is fun for him so do you think that bill belichick is kind of challenging himself to play the nfl in expert mode right now kind of to play with a guy's not the guy. And no offensive coordinator.
Yeah, no offensive coordinator. Or no, a defensive coordinator, a failed head coach, former defensive coordinator as your offensive coordinator.
And a failed former head coach, special teams coach as your other offensive coordinator. So, yeah, I think Belichick— And your son is defensive coordinator.
Yeah, no, I think that's what's going on right now in New England is he's just trying to just grit his way to it. He has a bet.
It's like that movie, was it Trading Places? Sure. Where they made that bet for a dollar.
Bill Belichick has a bet with Nick Saban that's like, can I take a college roster and a college coaching staff and end up going above 500? Yeah. They both were like, Hey, can you win a championship with Brett Bielema?

Yeah.

And they both gave it a shot.

Yeah.

I think that's what's happening here. Yeah.

They Nick say,

or a bill,

which was just essentially just walked into the season was like,

put some more weight on the bar.

Yeah.

I want to see if I can fucking max four 50.

Yep.

And so he's doing it.

I like our chances.

One in one.

All right.

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I know, PFT, you have a lot you want to say i'll just start with the lions might be good so the lions played the best half of football that i've ever seen in my entire life and they should have been they should have been winning by a lot more than they were uh but that first half that they played was just all all facets of the game yeah Just like firing firing on every single cylinder uh the pass rush aiden hutchinson had like three sacks three sacks in the first in the first half all over carson wentz all over carson wentz and our defense was so bad i guess we're keeping their best weapon which is jack fox their punter yeah off the field so that was smart by just letting them continue to drive up can i can i ask a question real question real quick? Because this is a safe space. We're all talking about our team's deficiencies.
Again, my quarterback was 7 for 11, 70 yards in an interception. You just said our defense was so bad.
I think your defense might just be bad. It was bad today.
It was a great week one. It was bad, too.
Yeah, so it might just be bad. But wait, but then it was bad last year.
Yeah, right. So, yes, we're a bad defense.
We're a bad team. We have many, many flaws.
Carson Wentz, again, he's got no internal clock. He's a spaz back there when he's playing quarterback.
I've never seen a quarterback besides Carson Wentz get social anxiety in the middle of a play. And it happens to him every time he drops back to pass.
Well, he'll have a few times a game where he'll pull the ball down, turn around, look, and be like, oh, fuck, you guys are here? And it's all the defensive linemen that are there to sack him. Yeah.
And, yeah, I mean, we said this last year.

He never – he thinks he can get out of any situation no matter how bad it is.

And that usually leads into safeties, sacks, fumbles, interceptions.

So the safety I don't think was his fault.

No.

No, that was – he just got beat.

The offensive line got blew up a lot today, which was tough to see.

I think maybe your offensive line just might be bad too. But – I think we might.
Carson Wentz is bad 50% of the time. Our receivers are good.
Our offensive line is bad. Our defense is bad.
And our kicking game is bad because we missed an extra point. So, overall, not a great year so far.
Yeah, not a great team. It was the Carson Wentz roller coaster again because the first half, Carson Wentz and the offense had two first downs.
In the second half, Carson Wentz had four touchdowns. Yeah.
So double the amount of first downs in touchdowns. That first half was the best half of football I've maybe ever seen.
I actually think that the Detroit Lions, those Detroit Lions from the first half,

if that's the team that shows up,

they can win playoff games.

DeAndre Swift is a stud.

That play where he fell down,

got up and chuked a guy.

And he was hurt.

Yeah.

Amon Ross St. Brown is awesome.

Jared was throwing dimes everywhere.

Their defensive line looks like it has real teeth.

This is the first time that a Lions team has scored 35-plus points in three straight games since 1952. That team won the championship.
Okay. So watch out, Lions fans.
So it's giving NFL championship right now. It is giving those vibes.
Not the Super Bowl. The championship.
That was pre-Super Bowl. And I also loved Dan Campbell.
This team obviously loves him, especially if they can start winning some games because we've said this before about Dan Campbell, but he's the type of coach that you can get a year or two of all-in maximum buy-in, but you have to start winning at some point. So it felt like today was pretty important because it's the first time they were favorites in a few years yeah he had um the practice uh squad guy who ended up having to start offensive guard dan skipper fate uh go to the media first before anyone else that was cool and that was a cool move and that's like a everyone loves him it feels like they're all bought in i actually had the thought to myself today the lions might be good and the thought came into my head when you were muttering to yourself all throughout the afternoon, we can't lose to the Detroit Lions.
And I was thinking, I think they're just a better team right now. No, the Detroit Lions, they are good.
Yeah, they're good. Make no mistake about it, what happened in the first half.
It was a combination of, yes, our defense is giving up eight yards per carry rushing on the year. And everyone's open downfield.
And everyone's open. Again, not good.
But also, Detroit played really well today. They did.
Every single facet of the game, they played well in the second half. Obviously, they gave up some points.
They had some points to play with on defense. And Carson Wentz went out there.
And in the second half, I actually thought that they were going to come back. It looked like it was going to be coming back.
I did too. And then they missed an extra point at point at the end and then it was all over at that point and then we had the saddest onside kick yeah there's nothing sadder than an onside kick that doesn't even go five yards it's just it's insulting because you're you're having to resort to desperate tricks to try to win a game and then if you get a flag thrown on you yeah because your desperate trick was too incompetent to as a play.
That's just twisting the knife in my soul. And it goes sadness for onside kicks.
It goes kick doesn't go five. It doesn't go 10 yards.
Kick goes directly out of bounds. So no one even touches it.
And then your guy touches it before the 10 yards. This was also like a trick onside kick where they started with the ball on its side.
And so they tried to do the thing where they kicked it sideways. And so it was just a colossal fuck up.
There should be onside kick specialists. Yeah.
If you're an onside kick specialist and you can just do the same repetitive motion over and over and over again, that should be worth roster spot, I think. Youngho Ku.
Youngway. Youngway Ku.
Yes. How do you say his name? I think it's Young-way.

Yeah, it's Young-way.

Young-way?

But it's spelled Young-ho?

It's spelled correct.

It's tricky.

Yeah, I just went with the spelling.

Yeah.

So it was demoralizing to lose that way,

having just absolutely no chance in the first half

and then a glimmer of hope and having that snuffed out.

Reeling you back in.

And I'm down to my last straw again with this franchise.

And it's not to take anything away from the Detroit Lions, but we did just lose to the Detroit Lions. So that's...
They're not those. I know, but you know, Big Cat, you know just...
I know, I know. The Bears play them twice a year and we lose to them all the time.
You know, hearing that... Thinking about that phrase is not fun to do.
So I'm down to my last straw. I want...
I'm not one to call for another man's job why is jack del rio still the

defensive coordinator i don't know why good question like all last friends is ron rivera

all last year yeah i think ron doesn't want to fire his guys yeah and so he's just like no you'll

have to fire me to get to jack if jack del rio doesn't get fired we dust up okay we dust up we

dust up it's gonna be a dust up i have one last question about this game did i lose you to

Thank you. If Jack Del Rio doesn't get fired, we dust up.
Okay. We dust up.
We dust up. It's going to be a dust up.
I have one last question about this game. Did I lose you to advanced analytics? How? 29-15, 10 minutes left.
That was different. The Washington Commanders go for two, and you're like, why are we going for two? I was like, PFT, might I remind you, down 14, score a touchdown, go for two.
Okay, I'm glad. And you're like, I don't like this situation.
I was like, you got to trust it. I'm glad you brought this up because we found ourselves in that situation like three times in the fourth quarter.
And so the first time I was like, yeah, you got to go for two here. Well, no, they were down eight the first time.
Okay, and then. I mean, they were down.
No, it was 22. They were down 15.
They weren't down 14. So that made sense.
So we're down 15. And I was like, yes, let's go for two here.
Then we go for two. Get it.
We get it. And then in my mind, I'm like, okay, we already did the thing where we went for two, so I don't have to have this conversation with myself again.
And then the next time we score, it's like, wait, I have to go for two. I just went for two.
You have to. How many times am I going to have to go for two on this? You got to trust the numbers.
At that point, I got too deep into the numbers and I was just like, kick a field goal, kick an extra point, and then that proved to be impossible for us to do also. Right.
So you're still on the side of when you're down 14, you score late in the game, you got to go for two. Unless you just went for two and got it previously because you can't go for two twice in a row.
It felt good to be able to flex on people again like you don't understand math. It was depressing watching this game was depressing watching this game.
Yeah. Ruin the Gami.
Ruin the Gami. That last time, 36-29, but they kicked the extra point, missed.
Karma. Nothing worse than ruining a Gami.
We're 500 right now. We're one game out of first place in the division.
There you go. The Giants.
Giants sit at the top. They're in the Catherine's seat.
2-0. Okay, next up, B, Buck Saints.
This game stunk. Holy shit.
This was the coolest thing that happened in this game was when Mike Evans and Lattimore got in a fight, and then the Saints lost their cool for the rest of the game. They got screwed by some suspect calls, and also Jameis threw just some unconscionable picks.
Well, not him they were old school they were old school james picks yeah james through some perfectly normal james winston six yeah yeah but it was this game was so so bad for so long and then it just broke open it's like well fuck the the bucks i the bucks defense is going to be it is very very good because what what? They let up no touchdowns week one. Yep.
13 in two games. Yeah, a touchdown this week, but it was kind of garbage time.
Their defense is so fucking good. And I don't know.
Tom Brady seems very agitated all the time. Yeah, he's angry.
You see him? He smashed the tablet. He smashed the tablet.
I also mike evans uh mike evans and latimore have beef so that was not like crazy that happened but if you saw mike evans uh it's like pleading with the ref to not get kicked out of the game you can hear him voice you can like lip read he says that's tom brady what what do you want me to do yeah he had to have his back have his back. And basically, Lattimore was talking shit to Tom Brady, and so Mike Evans saw Fournette come over, push Lattimore.
And Mike Evans, I mean, he gets into a fight with Lattimore every single time they play. Every time.
Either him or C.D. Deuce from last year.
But if it's the Saints against the Bucs, you know that Mike Evans is going to get kicked out of the game, or at least do something where he should get kicked out of the game for it. Who do you think won that trade if Mike Evans and Lattimore get kicked out of a game together? I feel like that should favor the Saints.
It should, but it felt like the Saints lost their cool after that. And the Bucs have Tom Brady, so he was like, all right, I just need to get...
That was such a classic game, and I was saying it because I had taken the Saints and I was like, this is just hanging around that tom brady will make a play and jamis will make a mistake and that will be all she wrote yeah and it almost went exactly like that where he hit one big pass they score touchdown and then jamis goes and throws a pick six and it's like yep that was fun why did we why do we do the first three quarters of them just like hanging out and doing nothing yeah uh jamis also we should mention he played with four broken vertebrae yeah he's actually he's a fucking warrior out everywhere he's going out on a shield it's pain pain pain i like that jay glazer put that out before the game and he was just like but don't worry he's going to be wearing uh some extra padding to cover up the four broken bones in his back that he'll be getting hit on yes it's like i I'm sure that's really going to do it for him there, Jay.

It was like a couple years ago when they said that Drew Brees,

they kept discovering new broken ribs on him.

But he put on an extra flak jacket today.

So the 12th broken rib is actually not that much worse.

Yeah, he can't throw the ball, but his ribs are there and he can stand behind center.

Yeah, I had a note here.

Sean Payton needs to work harder as shadow coach because I think he is the shadow coach of the new orleans saints right now uh he was on tv during the game today yeah wearing a visor he was wearing a visor with a suit which is a combo that i don't think has ever been done before well it's rare to get i mean think of how many people have existed wearing clothes i don't think anyone's wore a full piece suit and a visor at the same time.

They,

they love having the new coach and be like,

what were you known for?

Oh,

a visor.

Okay.

Let's have you do the visor and we visor talk with Sean Payton.

Yeah.

For,

for 60 seconds in between commercial breaks.

It was shocking.

Yeah.

It was shocking though,

to see that.

That's,

that's how,

that's the mind of a TV exec.

Yeah.

They're like,

all right,

what were you known for?

Like if, if Belichick retired and went into media, they'd be like, all right, we're going to do Belichick mumbles for 60 seconds, and it's going to be great. People are going to fucking love it.
Yeah, Andy Reid. They're just like, eat three steaks.
Yeah, right. Just like, we're going to have a camera on you, Andy.
Yeah, they're just like, all right, let me think. Let me think.
All right, you did this, so let's just keep doing this forever. Yep.
And boom, show gets made. Yeah, this game was tough to watch.
But I do think the biggest takeaway is that the Bucs are absolutely Super Bowl contenders, but it probably won't be – it's going to be in large part because of their defense. And then Tom Brady just has to get to a point where where because he hasn't looked super sharp but he you know he will eventually he's taking victory wednesdays off now yeah that's the new thing that he said like those are wife wednesdays for this word oh yeah he pleads with his wife that's please stay it's probably why he smashed the tablet because giselle didn't tweet good luck baby to him today yeah he was checking her timeline saw it was it was empty it was actually a ring account and she was not there.
She was not at home again. Interesting.
But yeah, so he's taking victory family Wednesdays, which I kind of understand that. He is 45 years old.
Yeah. He's dealing with some real life shit right now.
Yeah, real life shit. Like what gets accomplished on a Wednesday anyways? Nothing.
Absolutely nothing. No.
Also, Bruce Arians completely lied to us when he said, I've got my last flag in the NFL because he was on the sidelines yelling at refs today. He's 100% getting a flag this year.
He's motherfucking him. Yeah.
He and Jason Light were on the sidelines. Very weird.
I wonder if maybe they just don't, the Saints don't give him sweets or something. I don't know.
But it's weird to see the former coach and the GM standing on the sidelines. Special consultant? That's actually, it's not a bad role for Bruce Arians.
I think that he'd get kicked out of the game before he'd get a flag, right? Yeah. Yeah, probably.
And by the way, for the Bucs, we get to find out how good this defense actually is because they play the Packers next week and the Chiefs week after. Oh, hell yeah.
Yeah. Pretty fucking good games.
I might be ready to do the max kellerman thing be like i think the game's past tom brady by but his defense might be good enough to make me look like an idiot if i do that i would like to see um i'm not gonna do it because i this feels like a uh mike evans you know got kicked out of this game julio jones hurt chris godwin hurt he's still trying to figure out life without Gronk. Gronk might still come back.
I'm going to put a pin in it until November. If November they're not scoring touchdowns, I'll be like, yeah, this is kind of weird.
But this feels like a guy who took 11 days off of training camp and has some new receivers and a couple of them are old. What do you think, Hank? Tom Brady.
Give me a rating. He'll be ready for the playoffs.
Yeah, I think he'll be totally fine. I think it's just early season, no Gronk.
He's 45. Yeah.
And he's like, again, he does not have Gronk, and he's going through maybe the D word. So, he's got some things going on in his brain.
But these next two games, they got Packers, Chiefs. He looks like he lost a lot of weight, too.
Big time. In his face.
Yeah. And then they play the Falcons, Steelers, and Panthers.
They might not give up a touchdown in that three-game stretch. Falcons, Steelers, Panthers.
Win, win, win. They might not give up.
They might over under the Falcons, Steelers, and Panthers scoring 35 points combined. Under.
Yeah. One's going to be shut out.
Isn't that crazy? They're going to shut one of those teams out. I would take the under, too.
Okay. Next up, Jaguars, Colts.
Jaguars, 24. Colts, 0.
Colts don't win in Florida. Well, I want to give the Jaguars their due, but the story here is that the Colts are a debacle, and Frank Reich, I threw out the question, like why do we talk about him being a really good coach when I don't know if he is a really good coach considering the fact that it feels like they always drop these games.
He has not won a game in Jacksonville since he's been the coach and i looked it up so um they i think they haven't won in jacksonville since 2004 frank reich has been the coach since 2018 2014 to yeah in 2014 they haven't won in jacksonville he's been the coach since 2018 yeah so he's lost five straight times in jacksonville that is crazy considering the fact that in those five years, the Jaguars have 16 wins total.

So there's a one in 15 season in there. The one win, the Jacksonville Jaguars beating the Colts that week one game.
Remember that when they're like job, not finished. And then it was completely finished.
Here's another crazy stat in those five seasons. It's four seasons in this season.
So in those four seasons, the Jaguars have been outscored by 558 points. The Jaguars versus the Colts, the Jaguars have outscored the Colts in Jacksonville 121-51.
That makes no sense. That makes no sense.
It doesn't. That makes no sense.
They've been very, very bad teams in Jacksonville. Like some of the worst teams in the last 30 years of the NFL.
Several of them have been in Jacksonville over the course of those seasons. I don't know what it is.
There's really no good explanation for it. I guess Frank Reich just doesn't get his team ready to play on the road sometimes.
It's crazy. I think I know why we don't really talk about Frank Reich on the hot seat that much is because he's always been a guy that has like a band-aid at quarterback.
So it's like, okay, he acts like a guy that's one piece away from having a Super Bowl team. And it's just like, if we get an above average veteran quarterback as a patch, then we should be good to go.
He and Chris Ballard, the GM together together, I actually was thinking about it because it's like, why aren't we talking about Frank Reich on the hot seat? I think people actually kind of are now. And then I realized, I think Andrew Luck did the nicest thing he could have ever done for both Chris Ballard and Frank Reich.
He gave them five years of job security because they can basically be like, Andrew Luck, he left us in the middle of the, like right before the season started. We're still kind of dealing with that.
It's actually very reminiscent of the Bulls when Derrick Rose tore his ACL. Garn Pax would get in front of him and be like, five years later, they'd be like, well, our timeline got fucked up because Derrick Rose's knees.
Like they basically are just like, yeah, Andrew Luck left us, so then we had to do Brissette. Then we had to do Rivers.
Then we had to do Wentz. Then we had to do Ryan.
They've done the patchwork every year, and it doesn't work. I know it's only two weeks.
They scored zero points today. Yeah, zero points against the Jaguars, and this was kind of like a revenge game for the Colts to go down there after what happened at the end of last year.
I guess Carson Wentz doesn't look so bad, huh? Maybe you should have blamed it all on Carson Wentz. They probably wish they still had Carson Wentz to blame him.
I bet you they do. I bet you Carson Wentz is the best scapegoat to have.
Yeah, because Matt Ryan's too nice of a guy to blame. We might not actually fire Jack Del Rio ever.
We might just keep being like, look who our quarterback is. Yeah, Carson Wentz.
Oh, Billy's here. Hey, Billy.
So when Andrew Luck left, they really didn't have a plan B at that point. They could basically say everyone's given them an extended break because Andrew Luck left in the prime of his career a week before the season started, and that's bought him four extra years.
Yeah, so they just keep doing band-aid quarterbacks year after year after year as long as they don't draft another quarterback i think as long as frank wright keeps the team above 500 and takes a cast off from some other franchise at the end of every season he probably will keep being the coach of the colts because other people can just be like imagine if andrew luck was their quarterback right yeah that's all you have to do like upgrade this is so it's not their fault it's a super bowl roster yeah super bowl roster he Andrew Luck was their quarterback right now. Yeah, that's all you have to do.
Like, upgrade. So it's not their fault.
It's a Super Bowl roster. Yeah.
Super Bowl roster. Andrew Luck was actually an incredible human being to Chris Ballard and Frank Wright because he just gave them a complete excuse for this long.
And Vinatieri left too. Of being underwhelming.
Yeah. And Vinatieri left him high and dry.
So we were talking about coach speak earlier. Frank Wright, I think, is officially on the hot seat, and there's nothing that tells you that more than the quotes that he had after the game.
So he said, we'll evaluate everything. That's a red flag.
When you have to evaluate everything, he said, plays, schemes, everything top to bottom. Big time red flag.
Here's the other red flag. He said, it was as pathetic pathetic as that was today the distance between where we are and where we need to be isn't that far that's a red flag basically being like we're a couple plays away like we're we're doing the work we're gonna be there just just hold on and then the last red flag was he talked about the practice intensity was it at all-time high this week.
Yeah, so that's the worst one. That's the worst one.
It's the worst one when your coach is like, you didn't see us practice. We practiced hard.
We had a great week of practice. Anytime somebody says we had a great week of practice after a loss, that means that they actually did not have a great week of practice.
They're just a bad team that was practicing against themselves, and the other side of their team is also bad, which made their team look good in practice. And they were also just practicing like you can practice hard and be like the intensity was great.
And then when we got out to the field, we were like, oh, shit, we suck. Yeah, so I don't know who to give the Dan Quinn Memorial look in the mirror award to.
I actually think it's Reich. I think so, too.
I think Reich's doing the whole like we're going to evaluate evaluate everything's a bad thing if he said if he said we don't have any starters going into next week every spot's up for competition yeah that's actually worse yeah because when coaches say that first of all they never believe it they're just saying that because they don't have any other excuse to use so they're saying they're blaming everyone right when you do that excuse it's like it's everyone's fault but mine yeah so the colts i don't know what like that i do think frank reich is now up there for coach to be fired first i don't know if ursay fires coaches mid-season does he uh he seems like a guy he seems like a guy that would wait until he might wait I feel like he... I'm trying to think of who would be the coaches.
They get shut out again. I mean, getting shut out in today's NFL is crazy.
They had 10 possessions today, offense. Five turnovers, five punts.
Who do they have next? It's bad. That was a really, really bad game for them.
Chiefs. Oh.
But it says Titans-Broncos. It's tough.
Wow. That's not good.
Who else would be on the list for coaches that could be fired? Hot seat already? Hot seat already. No, we got to talk hot seat already.
Okay. All right.
Maybe Hackett. Oh.
Maybe Hackett. We'll get to that.
Matt Rule. 100% hot seat.
Yeah. Oh, yeah.
Fired. He might be the answer.
Already answer already fired he might be we'll get to him in a second he's the next game we should at least say the jaguars looked good trevor lawrence had welcome to the nfl trevor lawrence apparently it takes 19 games he was 25 for 30 for 235 yards two dds looked comfortable made all the throws welcome to the nfl congrats to chaps yeah that that when we had the guy talk a day like today can buy a jaguars fan a few months on the rest of the season he's the guy rest of the season because you knew going into this year that like okay you got a brand new coach his job is just to unlock just to activate trevor lawrence. Right.
And so as long as Trevor Lawrence gets activated at some point this year and shows you glimpses of Guy, then that's a winning season right there. Yeah.
Win-losses don't really matter. You just want to see a few games from Trevor Lawrence where he has stat lines that say things like 300-some yards, three touchdowns, one interception.
Yeah, five incompletions. You want some of those stat lines.
You want maybe a couple two-touchdowns, zero-interception games. You don't want anywhere it's lopsided where it's like one touchdown, three interceptions.
Right. But you want to see those stat lines.
As long as you get those out of your quarterback, then you're happy going into next year. Agreed.
And, yeah, so if you're the Jaguars, that was a very fun game. Their defense was flying around.
Their defense was fucking all up in Matt Ryan's shit. And yeah, be happy.
You win. You beat the Colts every year.
And you might. You might.
If you actually, because the craziest thing is the Jaguars don't beat the Colts in Indianapolis. I actually would say if the Jaguars beat the Colts in Indianapolis this year, that might be the one that gets Frank Reich fired.

Yeah.

That might be it, the sweep.

I agree with that.

The sweep.

Here's the spin zone, though, for a Colts fan.

So the fact that you lost 24 to nothing actually saved Jonathan Taylor,

and you didn't have him running the ball 31 times.

Right. So he needed a rest because any game that you guys are remotely close in you're going to give him the ball between 25 and 35 times right so this is good yeah it's a bye week for jonathan taylor he only had nine attempts today so that's good that was huge um okay speaking of coaches getting fired giants panthers and then we will be to our afternoon slate uh giants gram gano revenge game he hits a 56 yarder he also had a 51 yarder um the giants are kind of fun they play with energy i don't want to like i the the joe judge early joe judge days it felt similar i don't think they ever started 2-0 but i i do think this is different because they're playing with energy feels like they're buying in dan in.
Daniel Jones, there's still times in the game where you're like, what are you doing, dude? But they're 2-0. You can't apologize for being 2-0.
Yeah, listen, I am not a believer in the Giants, but I like Brian Dable. Yeah, and they fly around.
I think they're going to win more games than they should because they do have that energy. And also, Brian Dable is in the position where he's waited a long time to become a head coach and he's absolutely he's loving every second of it yeah he's actually enjoying being on the sidelines because i think some coaches they get on the sidelines and they're not as prepared as they think that they're going to be and we can get to that in a little bit uh even though they might have good ideas offensively and be show.
And be great interviews and nice guys and almost doctors.

Brian Dables seems like he was ready to be a head coach

where he's keeping his cool for in-game decisions

and getting to enjoy himself when he's there.

I also like that he's wearing the FDNY hat

even after the week where the NFL allowed you to do that

because it's going to force Roger Goodell into a hilarious position

where he has to be like, hey, listen, the NFL, we love firefighters. Um, but I have to find you for wearing that hat.
Yeah. And Goodell always gets like timid and nervous about it.
And then he'll probably, they'll probably end up doing like a week where it's like, okay, for this week, coaches get to make their own hats that they get to wear. And you can wear whatever mission statement on a hat that you want.

Yeah.

He's going to force his hand.

He's going to force his hand on this one.

But they look good.

And I also like Brian Dable appealing to the fans.

He said driving over here from the facility,

looking at all the tailgates, all the beverages,

and all the games they were playing,

they were pretty rocked up today.

Love it.

So shout out to Giants fans for getting rocked up in the pregame.

They passed the eye test to me, where they're not obviously the most talented team and they're not a finished product no Giants fan would say that but when you see a team like like run to the ball fumbles special teams uh like some of those big third and eight we find a way to do it plays it's's like, oh, yeah, they're kind of buying in here,

and they're maxing out what their talent is.

They're playing hard, yeah.

Right.

So I think just through week two,

I'm ready to say that I'm a believer in Brian Dable as a head coach.

And I'm a believer in the Giants with a couple bounces here and there

being like a borderline playoff.

Yeah, they'd be feisty.

Yeah, they do play the Cowboys.

They're playing the schedule game.

Yeah, home against the Cowboys.

So Cooper Rush on Monday night, and then, sorry, but home against the bears like they'll have a chance in the throwback uniform that'll be the frisky bowl off yeah and then i believe they go to london against the packers yeah but the um and then the other side the panthers i mean matt rule just put him out of his misery he wants to go coach college again he's 10 and 25 as a head coach. The Panthers are officially in the red zone.
Big play. Big error team where like they'll have one huge play where Christian McCaffrey or like Robbie Anderson or someone like he'll throw Baker Mayfield will hit him deep down the field.
And then they'll have a play where it's like, oh, kickoff. and somehow five guys on their team touched the ball

and they all fumbled.

Yeah, if you're Matt Rule, you should probably want to get fired

so you can get an interview at Nebraska.

Yeah, why not?

That should be your mission, actually.

Go out there.

You know what he should do?

He should go out, run the triple option, like the old school Nebraska offense,

like fullbacks and shit, and then use that as your audition tape

for getting at least your foot in the door, and then fired on tuesday and then get on a flight for for uh lincoln immediately that's that's what you should be doing right now yeah because someone else is going to get that job if you don't if you don't act um we we have advanced analytics on this show a lot of times we'll talk about uh the fear of a quarterback of a quarterback dropping back and having time like if Mahomes has time you're fucked if Tom Brady has time you know he's hitting someone Baker I'm at like a 1.5 out of 10 when he has a ton of time I'm like this is probably going to be overthrown somewhere I'm ready to do the excuse making for Baker though yeah because like I kind of feel bad for I don't know why I feel I still feel bad for Baker we know him and we know him and we like him. We root for him.
But I'm just saying, he'll have a couple times where he'll have a very clean pocket or he'll have a rollout, and I'm not like, uh-oh, here comes a huge play. You know why? Because I'm going to do this.
I'm going to say, I'm going to do the weapons defense. Okay.
I don't think he has any weapons, big cat. Christian McCaffrey, that's his only weapon.
Robbie Anderson. Robbie Anderson.
Robbie Anderson's hair is too weird to be a weapon okay it's unsettling giovanni richie that's a real guy fantasy fuck boy or carolina panther giovanni real quick game i'm not a believer in geo giovanni richie and g rich where'd you where the hell oh yeah he is a giovanni richie looks like a nice strong italian so he's a fullback i'm not i'm not a well then i like him Anderson's not a believer in Baker Mayfield. Was Robbie Anderson the one who was just fucking his girlfriend on camera? In a car.
In a car. Yeah, yeah.
He was fucking his girl in a car. Yeah, that's right.
That one I just completely forgot about. He was on the Jets then.
It's quite a visual. That was a very Jets story.
It's a Jets move. Yeah, for sure.
That's not a Panthers story. No.
That's a Jets story.

No.

If he's on the Panthers, he's definitely, no.

No.

No, definitely not.

I was going to say something, but then it's too soon for Ray Kruchuk.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Always too soon for Ray Kruchuk.

But yeah, Baker, I should actually release.

Maybe I'll do a whole release of the scared.

Zero to ten, scared of a quarterback when they have a completely empty you know like no no pressure yeah five seconds plus uh he just doesn't it doesn't scare actually daniel jones i'm a little bit afraid of a little bit time he's like a 4.5 i'm not as afraid of daniel jones when he's like rolling out on a bootleg and he's he's actually like trying to evade a defensive lineman while processing a play and throwing yeah but if he if he's got time and he's comfortable, yes, I'm afraid of Daniel. Yeah, like ask me a quarterback.
Jerry Goff. Jerry Goff is actually like a five and a half.
When he has a clean pocket and he's got a little time, he'll hit someone. Mitch.
I got three. Jameis.
Jameis. I'd say like eight with Jameis.
Jameis is a floating scale. Jameis is like a two to eight, and it just goes, you don't know.
I'd say eight because when he starts to do the thing where he's going downfield, like you're fucked. Kirk Cousins.
Kirk Cousins is surprisingly high. Kirk Cousins would be like a seven because that's not when Kirk Cousins, like Kirk Cousins' problem is when there's any little bit of rush.

But when Kirk Cousins has time, he'll, actually, maybe I shouldn't say seven, like maybe a five and a half,

because he also will just check down very quickly if he doesn't see it.

For me, Kirk's back up to like an eight.

Yeah, the Kirk Cousins people, Monday night is going to be interesting.

I think I'm back into Kirk Cousins.

Oh, Jesus Christ.

I hate him.

Listen, I hate the motherfucker. No.
I wish I had never met Kirk Cousins. He's a nice guy, but as far as on-the-field play, I've always...
I haven't always, but in the last six years, I've turned very sour. I've become a doubter.
I think he's one of those guys that's been activated. The problem with Kirk Cousins is, you could just have the argument forever with Kirk Cousins defenders because the stats will always back up the defenders and the eyeballs will always back up people who are like, dude, he's not going to win a Super Bowl.
I actually probably hate Kirk Cousins more than anybody else in the media, and now I'm like, I think I like Kirk Cousins again. Yeah, you're back on him.
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Rams 31, Falcons 27. The Rams almost Falconed against the Falcons, including being up 28-3.
Crazy ending. that was a game that if you bet the Rams, you probably want to take a week off.
Yeah, so that's me. Yeah.
I had a couple of those this week. I was on the wrong side of several of those.
In theory, I want to take a week off, but in practice, we got two Monday night games tomorrow. Two Monday night games.
Got to get back on that horse. Yes.
The Falcons, in a way, did Falcons after the Rams kind of took the Falcons' torch from them for a second. And it looked like the Falcons were going to come back.
Marcus Mariota needs to – someone's got to teach him how to throw a Hail Mary. Yeah.
Not a Hail Mary guy. They need a backup guy.
Two very bad Hail Marys. They should put Desmond Ritter in for the Hail Marys.
Yes. I'd agree.
It was like you saw just enough out of the Rams in the first three quarters. You're like, oh, the Rams are going to be fine.
And then you saw just enough out of the fourth quarter. You're like, oh, shit.
This is kind of weird. And Matt Stafford won a Super Bowl.
I think he's a Hall of Famer. He still, no matter what, this is why I like Matt Stafford, the guy still loves to throw a good interception.
He just does. You know, he loves to have one or two a game where he's just like, I'm just gonna fucking throw it to the other team.
Let's see how this goes. Yeah, big catch.
And usually it gets intercepted. If you're the Atlanta Falcons, and again not to go right after Arthur Smith.
He's our guy. He's our guy, but he tells us to give them all the rat poison.
He said bury us. Bury us after the games.
How many times would you try to target Kyle Pitts? Oh, that's funny because I know the answer to this. It would be definitely more than seven in the first two games total.
Yes, that's probably a good point. He targeted three times.
Three times. Three targets to Kyle Pitts, who's frankly unstoppable.
Well, here's a spin zone for the Falcons. Drake London, their wide receiver, they drafted out of USC.
He's awesome. So maybe Arthur Smith just doesn't realize you can throw it to both of them.
Yeah, so Drake had 12 targets. Yeah, right.
So I think he just, he'll figure it out like, Arthur, you're listening to this, like, it's not an either-or situation. Both can get targets.
He also said, we're not playing fancy football, we're trying to win out there. Right.
That's a fair statement to make. Correct.
But you can also sometimes lose if you don't target your players who happen to get a lot of fancy points when they make catches that's a very easy way to not generate enough offense and score real points yeah listen we don't know a ton about football compared to these coaches so let's just say arthur maybe just follow in the footsteps of mike mcdaniels who's like hey hey, throw ball to fast guy, let fast guy do fast things. Game gets won.
So you can also do that, but substitute the word fast for big. And fast.
And fast guy. Cowpitz is also fast.
But also, like, the bigger and fast guy, you can throw past him. Yes.
He'll score. I think it's also, look, as long as the Falcons, the Falcons are going to be okay long term as long as they know that Marcus Mariota is not the guy.
Going back to the, this is a big guy talk. This is the guy episode.
But this is one of those situations where Marcus Mariota will do just enough where you're like, oh, this is kind of cool. But you got to be like, hey, we still need to find our franchise quarterback.
And if they are in that mode, they'll be okay because Drake London is very good. Calvin Ridley, when he comes back, is very good.
Kyle Pitts is very good. Their defense, they have a couple guys on defense that, like, they're not the Falcons.
It doesn't feel like they're the Falcons from the last couple years where it was like, yeah, they just suck. And they'll win a couple games, but they just don't have enough people out there.
Yeah. They were, I mean, yeah, maybe I'm wrong because maybe it was just a flash in the pan fourth quarter, but I think they'll be competitive in games.
So they might be, but if they're not, and this is and this big if if things start to go south arthur you should just put desmond ritter in in the second half of the season yeah have him throw to kyle pitts a few times and drake lundin maybe you cover a few spreads at the end of those games maybe you win one or two of them and then you have momentum that you have to stick you can't get rid of me because me and me and desmond river we got a thing going on bring me back for next year you cover a couple spreads calvin ridley's happy now there you go whole thing and then next year it's like wow synergy yeah uh kyle pitts by the way uh 246 pounds 4 4 40 jesus christ yeah um he's fast and big it's not fancy football big it's not fantasy football listen i as much as you'd like to get the ball to your dynamic playmakers, sometimes you have Marcus Mariota as your quarterback. Yeah.
You know what? Spin zone, I think Arthur Smith is doing a great job of not throwing Marcus Mariota under the bus. Yeah, that's true.
You know what he's doing? He's saying the blame me thing without actually saying the words blame me. He's being more of a leader than a leader than kevin stefanski yeah how about that so arthur smith well done but just maybe give him the ball like two or three more times yeah maybe four or five more times yeah he's big seven targets in two games big guy again tyree kill and jaylen waddle had 32 targets today jesus yeah it's so crazy he really was playing.
He was just like, oh, he was playing Madden with injuries and stamina off. Yeah, do you think that they got tired? No, I don't know.
Do you think Waddell or Hill got tired from just running? I'd like to see the metrics on them because we did say that the Ravens defense, they ran like 6,000 yards. I want to know if Tyreek Hill ran for like sprinted a mile today.
Yeah, he probably did. He probably did.
And also shout out Allen Robinson. Welcome to the Rams.
Scored twice. So that was nice.
It felt like with Cam Akers and Allen Robinson, they were like, hey, we watched week one. Those guys stunk.
Let's try to get them the ball. Let's try to get them some carries.
And we should say that Odell Beckham took his official recruiting visit to the Saints game today. To the Saints, yes.
So he's taken his visit there. He's also visited with the Rams.
We're waiting to see what the NIL packages that they put together with him come back as. Right now I'd say that the Rams have the bigger hat on the table for when he does his announcement of where he'll be attending college.
yes okay next game 49ers Seahawks well this is is like the Billy Madison glad glad we kept that guy around Jimmy G Trey Lance unfortunately um I think broke his ankle out for the year that's brutal that just sucks because this was supposed to be the most important year probably of his career in terms of growth. It's his team.
He's given the shot. And it's gone five quarters into the season.
But if you're talking about backups, it can't be much better than the guy who took you to the Super Bowl and also took you to the NFC Championship game last year. Guy? Well, that's been the question.
He looks good today. He's shoulders better.
He got his shoulder repaired. That's been the question for Jimmy G for a long time.
I would say Kyle Shanahan says he's not the guy. I think that with Jimmy G, he was kind of the starter of this team until he just wasn't all of a sudden.
I think he didn't he didn't really play badly enough to get benched he played poorly enough to get traded to be a starter somewhere else right and also not was injured it's like you're gonna make somebody very happy one day but you and i we just don't have that you're not the long-term solution for me kyle i love you but i'm not in love with you is what kyle shanahan was saying to jimmy g kyle shanahan was basically like with like like in a relationship with Jimmy G and the sex got stale. He's like, what if I got this new guy where we could like do crazy shit together and throw the ball like all the way downfield? Yeah.
And then it turns out that the crazy chick actually went a little too crazy. And it's like, wow, I kind of missed the stability of Jimmy G now.
Now, shout out. The injury, too.

Well, that's it.

He went too crazy.

Yeah.

He got wild with it. We don't injury shame.

No, never.

But how bad does it suck for Jimmy G, kind of?

Because he has to play this entire season at like a $10 million discount.

Yeah.

He's going to play essentially the same amount of time as he would have played under his old contract.

But I think at the maximum with all the incentives, I think he's getting like 14 mil. All right.
So you're right. Like it does suck because of the money.
But on the flip side, he gets to start for a team that he knows the offense. And that team is super talented.
So they I I didn't know what Trey Lance was going to be. We him for one game in crazy conditions I do think that like the Niners I I now put them back into the contender territory because I know what Jimmy G is and I know how good like Debo Samuel this is just our weekly Debo Samuel fucking rocks because he does and I Kittle hasn't even played yet yeah so their Super Bowl has dropped.
They're better now. Yeah.
Wait, they're higher? They improved. They improved.
From what to what? I think it was 20-1 to 18-1. That makes sense.
That's my initial thought when Jimmy G, when Trey Lance went down, I was like, I kind of like a long shot of the Niners to go to the Super Bowl. It might be very unfair for me to think this way about Trey Lance, but I just keep thinking back to last year, that

game against the Cardinals. Do you remember that game?

It was ugly.

There were so many plays that

Trey had in that game where it was like,

okay, a good

quarterback should be able to make a closer throw

than that. You don't have to be perfectly accurate.

And the thing that sucks for Trey Lance more than anything,

and I really do mean this, and I

feel this, he hasn't played football. He played one season at North Dakota State the COVID year he played one game because remember they had like the show game then he sat and then he played for five quarters like he has thrown I think I saw the stat he's thrown like less than a thousand passes at like competitive football that year it's crazy that year at North Dakota State, he was awesome.
He was awesome. He was so good.
That championship game would fucking push my shit in. Yeah, but it sucks for him.
It does. This was his year, and this was going to be the growth year where they were going to probably deal with some maybe bad performances, but get him to a place where he's third year, like everything's set for him, and now he's back to square one.
It's's brutal so was it a um was it a broken ankle or i think so achilles yeah i think it was broken ankle it's tough um geno smith yeah do we write him off i write him off again good game manager yeah game managed so uh he i think he had i i think anytime i think the the barrier for game manager like the quick eyeball test i think he had 30 pass attempts in less than 200 yards. That's usually a good sign.
Yeah, he was 24 for 30 for 197 yards. That's the perfect game manager.
Here's a wild stat. He had an 80% completion rate.
That's the highest in a game in which a quarterback's team did not score an offensive point since statistics were first tracked. Damn.
So it's the best bad game of all time. Yeah.
That's what Geno did. Michael Jackson scored on a block kick.
He did. Touchdown.
I love that they have Michael Jackson. You have to say his full name every time.
And maybe Geno Smith might not be the guy when Pete Carroll was trying so hard to make things happen had that that DJ Dallas uh trick play that was one of the worst interceptions ever yeah he just was like I have the ball I have to get rid of it here you take it 49er yeah he just threw it right like five yards away from him just threw it right in his hands the crazy thing is like I that I kind of like how the 49ers look today yeah dude I they looked like a very good football team. They went back to looking like the 49ers where their defense is ferocious and they can run the ball.
And Debo Samuel every, I don't know, 20 minutes will do a play where we're like, whoa, what was that? Oh, it was Debo Samuel. So I am feeling like a little upset that like the stuff that Kyle Shanahan could do with Trey Lance

in theory makes me perk up.

My whole body gets a rush of blood.

It's going back to the thing where it's like

imagine any quarterback in Kyle Shanahan's

system. Just imagine different

players playing for Kyle Shanahan. We're talking a sex

swing. We're talking all kinds of freaky shit.

Makes me so, so horned up.

And Trey Lance was a guy that

had all those tools where I was actually

eager to see how

Kyle Shanahan's playbook would evolve

Thank you. It makes me so, so horned up.
And Trey Lance was a guy that had all those tools where I was actually eager to see how Kyle Shanahan's playbook would evolve to fit with Trey Lance over the course of

whether it be like the next year or next two years.

So it stinks.

He wasn't there yet.

So when I'm saying like, oh, I saw that game against Arizona,

he had a lot to go.

He had a long ways to go.

But Trey Lance, when they drafted him,

it's like that's a guy that I do want to see do some weird shit in Kyle's system. Yeah, and it sucks.
So Seahawks, they probably wish they could play Russell Wilson every week because that was all the energy. And then it's like, oh, yeah, this team's probably not good.
The team that we all thought might win five games, that was the team that we saw today. DK had a sick catch today.
He did. He had a very sick catch.
All right. Cowboys-Bengals.
Uh-oh. Are the Cowboys better without Dak Prescott tomorrow on Undisputed? Yeah.
I was thinking about it. The Cowboys had the perfect game plan for a backup quarterback, and we've seen this with Cooper Rush.
It's essentially you have to have the best 15-play script for your backup quarterback, and if that can run perfectly, you can just hold on long enough to win the game. So you get off to it, yeah.
Yeah, they had the first drive. Cooper Rush went 12 plays, 75 yards for a touchdown.
And then they were like, let's just hold on and let our defense win this game. And their defense was all up in Joe Burrow's ass.
Like, I think he had six sacks, but it felt like a million because every play Joe Burrow was running for his life. And now the Bengals, they revamped the offensive line, and it somehow is worse.
Thirteen times he's been sacked in two weeks. So how many – they spent like millions and millions of dollars on the offensive line this offseason right yeah and i agree with you it hasn't looked a single bit better no it's worse it's looked pretty bad he got sacked i think 51 times or something last year right now obviously it's not going to stick stick this way he's on pace of being sacked 110 times it's not a good start 13 times in in two weeks the last time a guy played more than 10 games after being sacked 13 times in the first two weeks was david carr in week two and he's in 2005 yeah and that and that's the guy that we always point to and be like this is how to fuck up a quarterback and that's what's scary because we love joe burrow, but it's like criminal malpractice what they're doing with Joe Burrow right now and not being able to protect him.
So Zach Taylor, he got a big contract extension too this offseason, right? Went to the Super Bowl. Yeah, Super Bowl hangover for the Bengals right now.
The Cowboys, they did their 13-second spike thing again at the end of this game, but it worked. This time it worked out.
And Cooper Rush looked competent as well in the fourth quarter. He did.
I don't want to be the guy that says, are they better without Dak, but I kind of am the guy because it's so much fun to do. Well, because everyone else tries harder.
And there was the quote that I jumped on where Mike McCarthyccarthy was like um kellen moore's got to play like do better as an offensive coordinator and i jumped on it because i was like oh yeah that's funny mike mccarthy already blaming people i then watched the press conference uh because i felt bad because i just saw the quote he was basically saying we don't have our starting quarterback everyone has to be better and that happened like their defense was better everything was better. They ran the ball better.
All that stuff. So, I don't have our starting quarterback.
Everyone has to be better. And that happened.
Like their defense was better.

Everything was better.

They ran the ball better.

All that stuff.

So I don't know.

Maybe the Cowboys.

I don't think it lasts.

I think this is that one game bounce you get with a backup quarterback.

But I'm more worried about Joe Burrow.

And I don't know what.

It also is weird because last year they couldn't protect him.

But they were like, fuck it.

We'll throw deep anyway.

Yeah.

This year they can't protect him.

And they're not saying, fuck it.

Thank you. It also is weird because last year they couldn't protect him, but they were like, fuck it, we'll throw deep anyway.
This year they can't protect him, and they're not saying, fuck it, we'll throw deep anyway. So they've got the Jets next week, which is good.
They got to get right. They got to get right.
That's a good get right game for them. Yeah, but I'm worried because he gets fucking killed every game.
Did they have that weird game against the Jets last year? They lost. Yeah, That was a weird game.
Billy, you remember that game? Billy's got a piece of net in his hat. For the championship.
I know. I like that.
Didn't you apologize for winning that game? No. I thought that was the one that the Jets shouldn't have won against the Bengals.
There was a weird penalty. And you apologized for it.
Yeah. Yeah.
But we beat the Titans and the Bengals, so both AFC championship. Yeah, so the Cowboys right now, they stand at 1-1.
They're tied with the Commanders in that division, and it looks like who do they have next week? Oh, they're at the Giants next week. Yeah, that'll be a fun game to see if the Giants start 3-0 and they beat the Cowboys.
I think they might. I think the Giants will go 3-0.
I agree. But, yeah, I'm worried about Joe Burrow.
And my last note on this game was Micah Parsons. I love whenever the hype is totally – it's actually undersold how good he is.
He's just a fucking game wrecker. He's insane.
Just all over the place. So he's back.
He's like rushing the passer full time now, right? It's crazy. And then he will drop a couple.
But he's just so fucking good. And he's such a problem for everyone, especially an offensive line like the Bengals.
And he's made me change my mind. You know, in Rocky, if you can change and I can change, we all can change.
Yeah. I think number 11 looks awesome on him.
He looks fast. Number 11 looks great.
And I used to be like, oh, you can't have that if you're a defensive end or a linebacker. He's changed my mind by himself.
He looks awesome in it. Yeah.
Alright, last two games. This one was crazy as well.
This was the other one I referenced at the beginning of the show. Two games where a team was down by 20 at half and came back and won the game.
Cardinals Raiders. The Pinky Bowl.
The Raiders are officially my pinky team. I don't know if we're gonna clap we clapping for that i guess i don't know i'm jake's just a positive guy so if the raiders win the super bowl i will cut off the tip of my pinky um i was through the half i was like the cardinals are the greatest pinky team i'll never stress about them because they looked so fucking bad in that first half and then kyler video game kyler showed up and he made play after play after play including the two-point conversion where he ran 84.85 yards to get two yards quite literally the video game play it was crazy it looked like you were playing madden with michael vitt and yeah you were just running around and the defense was too slow to catch up to you and there was nothing they could do and you're making them dizzy.
And then you get up to the line of scrimmage and you just run to the sidelines and nobody can beat you to the sideline and then just kind of walk in two feet into the end zone, hand the ball to the official. Yeah, it was crazy.
So yeah, 84 yards and 20 seconds, almost 85 yards. So I saw that stat and I thought like there's there's a chance I couldn't run 85 yards in 20 seconds.
And he was just changing direction. And he was running.
He was like, right. He also stopped for a couple of seconds.
Having got set his blocks up a little bit. Yeah.
Right. He, he pointed to in different directions for his receivers to run from like a flat footed position.
I think I could def, I think I could run 85 yards, but the fact that I had to sit and think about it just tells me like, freak Kyler Murray is. It was crazy.
He really did put the team on his back in that second half, and the defense woke up, and I don't know what to make of the Raiders. You couldn't have looked better in the first half, and then you just completely— Kyler looked like shit in the first half.
Kyler looked like shit. The Raiders could do everything on offense, and then halftime came.
I don know if the the Raiders weren't able to keep up with their changes but it just it was crazy it was two different halves were played I also had the Raiders in this one I had a bad week I was on the I was on the business end of a lot of these come from behind losses and we had tough we had the rare uh touchdown needed touchdown in overtime to get the over with the uh Hunter Renfro's second fumble of the day, getting the fumble return for a touchdown to end the game. And I thought for a second that he pulled it to Sean Jackson on that return where he tossed the ball through the back of the end zone.
I don't think that they had a camera set up on the goal line, so we never got a real good shot at it which but that's one thing that bill belichick will always be correct about like the league makes how many billions of dollars per year and we can't put a fucking camera on the goal line correct in every stadium the new popular one with the justin fields play at the end of the packers game is a microchip in the ball because i think he got in yeah seven for eleven micro Like a pet. An interception.
Like a lost pet. Yeah.
You think that would work? I do. Yeah.
For sure. They do it with.
Don't they do it with sprinters and shit? Yeah. I think the XFL.
Is that what VAR is? Yeah. Kind of.
No, not really. They do it with tennis.
Yeah. Yeah.
Tennis. Yeah.
Hawkeye. They got rid of umpires besides the chair umpire.
Yeah. Hawkeye technology is slick.
Yeah. So Raiders dead.
Season over. Officially.
Who do they have next? This is going to make me nervous if they rattle off like six wins in a row because Derek Carr definitely has a – they're going to like win all their games in December. Titans, Broncos, Chiefs, bye.
That's tough. That is tough.
I'll feel very comfortable if they go one and two there. Also, they're in the AFC West.
True. So they've got several tough games.
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Broncos, Texans. I don't think the Broncos are good.
And Nathaniel Hackett, I like you, dude. You're a recurring guest.
You got to figure out what's going on in that brain. Multiple.
They got so bad with the delay of penalties, the Broncos crowd was chanting out the play clock. Yeah, they were counting down the play clock.
They were probably also calling out runner pass. That's a big thing for Russell Wilson.
He asks everybody on the team to do that. Runner pass.
Yeah, the stands should do that. Just help the defense.
Help key it out, identify it. That play sequence where it was like third and inches, and then he did like almost a jet sweep to the tight end.
Yeah. And then panicked on the sidelines, stood next to Russell Wilson, and then was talking to somebody in his headset.
I don't know what his workflow is. That's the thing.
Like when I'm talking about Brian Dable being prepared for a game, Hackett seems like he doesn't, you should, you're the one that should be making those decisions. You shouldn't be like talking to somebody for that long.
I think he does too many analytics about it. Yeah.
And then he's, he's waiting for the people to crunch all the numbers and give them the decision to go for it or to kick a field goal. And by the time he sends his field goal unit out there, there's like 12 seconds left.
Delay a game. You've got to streamline this shit, buddy.
Yeah, multiple delay a game penalties. They had 13 penalties total.
Feels like, I don't know. He's got to have the game slow down for him.
And he thought it would happen against the Texans. Texans were kind of in this game until the very end.
Also Nathaniel Hackett. Not to pick on him because we do like him.
The last five times the Broncos have had goal to go, zero touchdowns. That's hard to do.
They're 0 for 6 in the red zone this year. That's hard to do.
A couple fumbles, but also a couple weird play calls. And the greatest, the funniest part of this Broncos team, and I don't know what it's going to look like in a few months because maybe they just got to find their rhythm, but the key, if the Broncos were smart offensively, the irony of all this is they should just run the ball.
What Russell wilson wanted to go away from in seattle and what pete carroll always wanted to do is establish a run their running backs are really good they ran the ball 31 times for 149 yards today and russell wilson like was 14 for 31 for 219 it was very clear running the ball was the key to them winning this game and it's just very just very funny that Russell Wilson's on a team where the strength of the team should be running the ball. Russell Wilson is also now getting booed in Denver.
They booed him. They booed him today.
They're turning on him a little bit. Yikes.
I mean, their offense stinks right now. Yeah, their offense stinks.
When you hire a guy that's's supposed to be the offensive guru and then you hire his quarterback.

The franchise quarterback.

And give him a lot of money.

Although people don't really talk about it that much,

but Russell Wilson was like, he was their second choice.

Yeah, Aaron Rodgers.

They wanted Aaron Rodgers.

They wanted Aaron Rodgers. So Russell Wilson, kind of not even the guy that they wanted.

Yeah, and we're going to have to keep our eyes on Mills Mafia.

Not the best game, but he'll have some games. And the Texans are going to be one of those...
That tie, it bought us a couple weeks. Yeah.
Watch out for the Texans. They will win a game where they are 10-point underdogs this year.
I think they're going to win five games this year. Not as 10, but I'm saying there will be a game where they will be like 10, 12-point underdogs.
They'll win the game. They're probably going to beat the Colts again.
Yeah, definitely going to beat the Colts. Well, yeah, they tied them, but they beat them.
That was a win. Yeah, that was a win.
Also, last thing, Jerry Judy got hurt. I tried to figure out how hurt he was, so I just searched Jerry Judy injury, and all I found was someone asked, how hurt is Jerry Judy? And then Evan17216107 replied, can't be worse than Lance, my fantasy done for.

Okay.

So that was your Jerry Judy update.

Imagine just going around on Twitter all day, just like replying to random other injuries,

being like, yeah, but why aren't we talking about Trey Lance?

My fantasy team's fucked.

I'm getting some reports back that it could be either his shoulder or his ribs.

So that actually fits directly into your area of expertise.

I'm getting some reports back that it could be either his shoulder or his ribs. So that actually fits directly into your area of expertise.
Yeah, this is my expertise. I'm going to say ribs.
Possibly two injuries. Oh, yikes.
The double injury. Okay, those were our games.
Great week. Week two was action-packed.
There were some stinkers, but holy shit. The Jets-Browns game, the Dolphins-Ravens game, the Cardinals-Raiders game, and even the Falcons-Rams.
Those were all-time witching hour, gambling switches, crazy shit happening. Let's do Football Guy of the Week, and then we'll finish with who's back.
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Okay, Football Guys of of the week our first football guy of the week is the appalachian state coaching staff yes so in the running up for the game against troy coming off their big texas a&m upset upset upset they uh put a bunch of mouse traps all across their facility love it so that the players know not to take the cheese in other, staying focused and not letting the attention to Auclides bite you. So huge football guy move, kind of in the rat poison type vibe, Nick Saban.
I just hope someone stepped on one of those rat traps. I mean, how funny.
It would be so great. That is a Sean Payton move.
They should have put money in him. Yeah.
Yeah, that's nice. Or cheese.
I would take the cheese. Sean Payton, That's the year that he, he had the mousetrap set up and he also showed his team videos of mice and rats getting killed by the mousetraps.

I'm actually remind them not to take the cheese.

I'm thinking about right now.

You could easily do like a human mousetrap for me.

If you just put like a piece of pizza in the kitchen here or like a candy

bar.

I got Mincy.

I would,

I would a hundred percent just like,

Ooh,

pizza.

And then no, I put dead. I put mousetraps in Mincy's freezer around his ice cream.
Oh, that was smart. That was smart.
Very smart. By the way, we will do college football talk.
We'll do it on Wednesdays. That's what we've done in the past.
Memes pointed that out because these shows run long. So Wednesdays we will recap and maybe talk a little upcoming college football.
Our second football guy is Ethan Glenn, a high school football player from Minnesota who was paralyzed and was on a ventilator. And his first words when he got off the ventilator was, Roll Tide.
Oh, very cool. Wait, Minnesota? Yep.
P.J. Fleck not doing his job.
Should have been rowed the boat. Yeah.
What did you say? Never mind, you're right. What? I thought you meant like PJ Flex got to get him to Minnesota.
No, PJ Flex got it. I mean, everyone in Minnesota should be saying row the boat, not roll tide.
Right. That's a bad job by him.
He's got to put a border around the state. Roll tide would also be a great vanity license plate for him to put on his wheelchair.
Yes, definitely. Our third football guy is a UConn football fan who was in the stands in the fourth quarter while they were getting absolutely destroyed,

and he threw up a four because it's the fourth quarter.

Yeah, that was awesome.

He had a mask on.

You always got to let him know.

They were down 50.

Down 50.

Now, to be fair, they were still covering.

I think they were down 45 maybe.

Yes.

I think it was 47 with the spread. 47 with the spread.
So that throw up the four, that actually meant something at that moment. Yep, that's true.
Our fourth football guy is TJ Watt. TJ Watt was on the sidelines.
He was injured and he still had his mouth guard on even though he wasn't playing. Oh, hell yes.
He was just chewing on it. A lot of people are saying, no, it's Invisalign.
I'm like, no, that's a very expensive mouth guard that none of us can probably afford. I like that.
I like that a lot. Those are the football guys of the week.
Good job, Billy. How much is an expensive mouth guard? I mean, you can get those custom ones that these guys wear that you can talk with and they protect your teeth and they're like, I don't know, like 300, 400 bucks, which for like a pro player is like easy money.
Yeah. It's like the anti-concussion mouth guards that don't really do anything.

Yeah.

But they tell you they do.

Are we sure it was Invisalign?

Why would he have Invisalign on?

Well, maybe he's trying to get his teeth fixed.

Yeah, it would make more sense than this.

But he wouldn't be chewing on his Invisalign.

That would fuck it up.

Because that's even more expensive.

That's true.

Okay.

Hopefully that doesn't come back to bite you.

That was good football guys though.

Perfect.

I think he's right.

Yeah. I think it was a mouth guard as well.
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Let's start with actually Billy, because I'm assuming Billy,

your Who's Back is going to be the Water Dogs.

We should talk about it.

Championship.

Champions.

Champions.

We did it.

I mean.

What a moment.

Did the guys? The guys were hyped. I bought them beers.
Yeah, they were hyped. They were very happy.
Okay. So.
Did they know that we're the owners? Yes. I told them that I was with ownership representation.
Yep. And I said, these are the owners.
Yep. And what a random picture for that shirt.
I know Welker. That was a Welker special.
So I was like, I need and PFT and that was the one as owners can we we sell the team like right now yeah because this is probably the most valuable they're ever gonna be yeah can we do our can we do like what the Marlins do where they win a title and they immediately sell all their best players yeah we should we do that fire sale let's sell them all really quickly I have a piece of the net from the championship I wanted to bring for you guys. We'll put it up in the studio.
That's awesome. Thank you, Tony.
I saw you cut the net. It was a great game.
Yeah, was it awesome afterwards? I mean, it was- You were like spraying champagne with him in the- No, no. I was getting sprayed.
Okay. It was kind of one of those moments where it was like, I haven't really won this championship.
No, you're part of- You're part of- Yeah, no. You were ownership representative.
It's like in Arrested development where they send a surrogate yeah right kind of what you were doing but they were really great and inclusive with the championship celebration it was awesome that's good six inside yeah they were just like i've never seen that there's cigars but then the six well the canadians bro there's so many canadians on the team and they're just like yo let's start ripping some heaters yeah, ah, okay. They're like, here, take one.
And I was like, okay, I'll rip a heater. I am very proud of the Water Dogs.
Clip that. Send that out.
I'm very proud of them. They were tested all year.
It's not often that you can beat a team in the championship that's 4-8, but we did. And I'm very proud of them.
It was us against the world. Yeah.
Seriously, think about it. Everybody said last year, oh, the Waterdogs, you guys choked.
You were the number one seed overall. This year, we took a different approach.
We were much worse in the regular season, and then we just counted on catching fire in the playoffs. But not as bad as the Chaos were 4-8.
But not as bad as the Chaos were 4-8, and they made the playoffs when they were 2-8, actually. Yeah.
So a 2 and eight team. We beat a two and eight team is the more correct way to say it.

We beat the defending champion.

Oh, wow.

The defending champion.

With a fat goalie.

With a fat goalie.

He's one of the best goalies of all time.

And a hangover.

Yeah, but he's a big boy.

We didn't say he was a bad goalie.

We said he was a fat goalie.

Fat goalies are good.

Yeah, probably.

He should be fatter actually.

Yeah.

Maybe he would have stopped a couple more shots.

Also, Billy, we got a report from the ground.

Do you want to hear it?

Okay. Erica texted PFT and I and said uh thanks for letting billy go they were great congrats and then she said the amount of people in my dm saying how hot billy is is alarming on the other hand what yeah yeah and i replied they don't know his personality it was a very hot day out i was sweating billy you got some you got some you got some group oh the guys invited me to shower with them skipping right over the guys invite me to shower with them they're like hey didn't say if it was if it was guys they said hop in the shower let's billy i'm trying to pump you up dude that's a nice thing i like it's nice to be like hey people were like hey that guy's attractive that's cool billy did that's awesome i like when that happens to me it never does their celly was get billy in the shower is that what you're saying it was just did you get the shower i i almost did i was like you know what that's their championship the championship shower is probably so far do you think our players were deeming erica saying how hot he is we're gonna get this guy uh just want to shout out some guys who really showed out.
Michael Sowers, MVP, dogs, Ryan Conrad, dog,

Jack Hanna, dog. Drew Snyder, dog.
Ewing Theory. Connor Kelly, dog.
Dylan Ward, playoff MVP. Goalie made some huge stops.
Was instrumental in the win. It was a shootout.
It was 11-9. We watched the whole game it was amazing it was a great game we literally watched the whole game i was like at one point there was a ton of action i was trying to watch the end of the jets game at the same time and it was a lot it was very stressful yeah yeah it was thank you for your service thanks billy we appreciate you going and and thank you for coming back sober yeah what a shock and what a real treat i i had so much alcohol on me that I didn't drink that I was scared driving back, like trying to explain to like if I ever got pulled over, like reeking of champagne.
Like I didn't consume any of it. It's just all over me.
Right. Yeah.
You could just do a breathalyzer. That's one way to just be like, hey.
Did you get a picture with the trophy? Yes. That's on their Instagram.
Yeah. There's some good pictures of Billy with the trophy.
Great great i'm proud of how you represent us today billy this is a big moment in in uh earning trust building trust with us yes so thank you even though i didn't tell you about how what happened getting home so i got trapped in a parking garage yeah you sent us that video yeah it was like five floors and we couldn't get out because turns out it was uh yesterday sunday was mexican independence friday friday yeah but there was there's celebration it's the weekend yeah yeah it's kind of like how you treat st patrick's day right yeah right it's kind of the same thing going on uh also i i told the water dogs before this game if you win i'm going to adopt my next dog not buy it from a puppy mill so uh shout out. They saved a life.
Yeah. Big time.
Congrats. Very good boys.
Very good boys. Proud of the water dogs.
They think I'm really soft because I turned down a lot of partying. All right.
Now you're laying on pretty thick here, Billy. All right.
They were partying hard. They won a championship.
They were partying hard. I've never seen a group of guys going that hard.

They won a championship.

They should go that hard. It was insane.

These dudes were going real hard in the shower.

Dude, the Canadians are wild.

Yeah.

I think we should get more Canadians on our team next year.

Yeah.

I like the wild card element that they add to it.

When I Venmo for the beer, were they like, that was too much or too little?

They were so happy.

Okay, good. I was debating in my head little? They were so happy.
Okay, good.

I was debating in my head. Steve Napoli?

Yeah. Dog.
Dog. Dog.

He's the one I Venmoed. Yeah.
Yeah.

They were going nuts. And I was like, this could

just be a Billy Burner. And you got me.

Real good. How was the coach?

He was very happy. Dog.
Dog.

Dog. Copeland.
Yeah. Dog.

Copeland. We're pronouncing

the D now, because they do play D. Yeah.
We didn't for a while're pronouncing the D now because they do play D.

Yeah.

We didn't for a while there when they sucked.

Well, there is no D in his name.

It's Copeland.

No, no, no.

It's Copeland.

No, it was the Water Ogs.

Yeah, and it was Copeland, and now it's Copeland.

So I feel like if you respected him after winning it all,

you would call him by his correct name.

No, no, no.

He gets a D for being a dog.

Or Andy. Copeland.
That by his correct name. No, no, no.
He gets a D. Okay.
For being a dog. You know, or Andy Copeland.

That was his first name? Yeah.

I went over to... I don't really like that first name.

He's got to change it. I went over to the fat goalie.

He wants his job. I went over to the fat goalie's house

just like a couple hours ago.

I was thirsty. And I was like,

can I have a drink? He's like, no, I can't pour you any.

You know why? What?

Because he doesn't have any cups. Oh! Was the cup no come on what the fuck rabel what do we have it's like a stick

kind of yeah need a cup it's cool they have a cup person they have a person who carries it around

with the white gloves okay nice yeah shout out paul rabel for getting us involved in this i never

thought we'd win a championship as owners but here we are we got to get a banner you gotta make rings

Thank you. carries it around with the white gloves.
Okay, nice. Shout out Paul Rabel for getting us involved in this.
I never thought we'd win a championship as owners, but here we are. We gotta get a banner.
We gotta make rings. Oh yeah, we're gonna make rings.
For sure. For sure.
Shout out Dukes and Jordy and Mackenzie Lozano. Okay, any more shout outs? Are they dogs? Dogs.
Dogs. All of them dogs.
Alright, Hank. My who's back of the week is Dennis Schroeder.
Great job, Billy. Great job.
Thank you. I'm worried about saying great job because usually it goes the other way, but I'm saying it.
Great job. Proud of you.
Dennis Schroeder is My Who's Back of the Week. Oh.
If you guys remember, I think it was a year ago and some change, he turned down an $84 million contract with the Lakers. Fed on himself.
Because he said he doesn't fit their system. He just signed a $2.6 million contract to join the Lakers.
Okay. Fits their system now.
So all-time bag fumble by him. That's tough.
That's tough. And he's back.
And, I mean, it's been announced. I don't know if we talked about it on the show, but the Pat Beverly podcast is going to be a Barstool podcast with Roan.
Their roster just makes no sense. It is set up for an unbelievable amount of chaos.
No, it's LeBron's playing fantasy basketball. But he already has his replacements.
Right, but it's the names. He's handcuffed Russ with Trotter.
But they lead the league in names that you recognize. Dwight Howard.
Yeah. Pat Beverly.
Russell Westbrook. It's going to be fun.
Is Carmelo still there? Probably. But he probably will be.
Might be something. Oh.
Stay mellow. All right, PFT, who's back? I was going to do Urban Meyer, but we can talk about him on Wednesday.
Yep. For college football Wednesday.
Nebraska, yep. But he's probably going to be the head coach of Nebraska by then.
It scares me. I kind of love it.
No, I mean it scares me though, yeah. I love it.
More Urban Meyer. Because they will be good.
The Urban Meyer Redemption Tour, I can't wait for it. He's learned very valuable lessons in the last seven months.
So my Who's Back the Week instead is going to be people getting clout off soup. So it's soup season coming again for me.
And if you're real broth head, you know that there's no soup season because you just have, you have different types of soup in the summertime, but I've seen soup memes going viral left and right now. I feel like people are getting locked and loaded to, to just fire off a bunch of soup tweets, a bunch of soup pictures and just steal everybody's soup memes.
The George Costanza soup season. Beware of the people that are firing these memes into your life because they're not real soup boys and they're just using it for the clout.

And it's offensive to me as a lifetime soup fan, quite frankly.

So just watch out for those people because they don't actually love soup.

So I'm getting mad about it.

I'm getting pre-mad because I've seen a couple people do it already.

I've got my eyes on it.

Name names.

No, I'm not going to name names.

I've got my eyes on you if you're using soup't. I'm not going to name names.
I've got my eyes on you.

If you're using soup, if you're using

my my culture for retweets.

OK, I'm just just know that

shout. Yeah, there's an eyeball.

All right. My who's back is Dabo.

I hadn't

seen it in a while, but his run

is just the most ridiculous thing ever.

Did you see the clip from the other night? Yeah, he's pretty

quick. I actually I timed it from the goal

line out to the 40. Yeah, I've

got him clocked in at a 4 7 it's if you haven't seen it just search dabbo he's just it's all about dabbo he runs out so fast in front of the team where it's just him on the field by himself and uh i just the guy is like a narcissist to the nth degree but he wins so it doesn't really say anything about him. I also just like to point out that there's a significant hill that he's just run down so he's got, he still has that speed left over from the hill that's not all Dabo speed.
The clip though is so funny He's fast but it's just so funny where it's just like and here's the Dabo Clemson Tigers, and it's just Dabo. And then the team comes like 15 seconds later.
Okay, Jake, finish us off. We will talk to Max.
Max won. Max is actually going to be on the show on Wednesday.
He was going to be on the show win or lose. Thank God he won.
Unbelievable. Unbelievable.
Epic 72nd home. We were watching it together.
It was great we talked about. Unreal.
Yeah, so we'll talk to him about it on Wednesday,

so tune in on Wednesday.

That was unreal.

Who's back is a record watch.

Aaron Judge, two more home runs today.

He's at 59, too shy of Roger Maris.

These final two weeks got to be locked in,

even if you're not a Yankee fan.

This is history.

61 home runs.

The Yankee record.

And the non-steroid record.

Yeah. And? What? Pools.
And Pools is close to 700. Now I was throwing a meatball.
That's exciting. That's not exciting.
I'm not excited. He's going to second place? Here's the thing.
Are you giving second place trophies? No, it wouldn't even be second place. Has anybody started the witch hunt on Aaron Judge yet? What's the celebration for? Should there be an asterisk on these home runs for Aaron Judge because of how close the right field wall is in the Yankee Stadium? Well, the two today were not.
Regardless, Jake, don't let the facts get in the way of a take on this one. Let's just have the conversation.
How many home runs would Roger Maris have hit if he played in this Yankee Stadium? I don't know. Plenty of players have gotten to 700.
If he can get to 61, no non-cheater has gotten past there. Do we know that he's clean? As of now.
Sammy never did anything either. You can't prove it.
Let me see your piss, Aaron Judge. Yeah, so 59 right now.
Did Barry get suspended? Two weeks left. No.
Yeah. Asterisk.
No, Barry Bonds never got caught. I'm excited for it because I put the bet on it for him to hit 62.
I'm not trying to take it away from you. It would be the Yankee record.
It would be pretty crazy. That would be pretty crazy.
They've been playing baseball for a long-ass time for the Yankees. Also, it's reached that point in the night where American Ninja Warrior is back on.
Yeah, we went through Johnny Bananas. We always see Johnny Bananas' show for a while, and then it goes to American Ninja Warrior.
So let's wrap it up. We'll see everyone Wednesday.
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Numbers. Hank, have you gotten this before? I have not.
I believe this is the last blue ball one, two. Oh, so you're going to switch it up again? You're going to switch it up again? I'm going to go with 17.
17. I'm going to go with 18.
I'll go 62 for Aaron Judge. 26.
20. This is it.
You think you're going to get this? Yeah. I'm going to guarantee you don't get it.
Guarantee. You're never gonna get it

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Puffer fish can explode

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Take me on the air Okay, say you're sweet. Thank you.
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